Reed's pride at Staplewood revamp

Les Reed

Les Reed

First published in Football

LES Reed is confident the Saints squad will welcome the club’s new training facilities when they return to pre season training early next month.

The players will be using the new £30m Staplewood development for the first time.

It is those new facilities that has led Saints to decide to stay at home rather than take an extended trip abroad this summer.

“There’s a lot going on, as is normal during the close season,” said Reed.

“Normally we’d be doing pitch refurbishment but we’ve got a brand new pitch with undersoil heating, so there’s a big project there but it’s coming on great.

“There’s a lot of unusual stuff, like the training ground coming to fruition.

“That’ll be ready to move into on July 1, so, when the players come back, they’ll be moving into a completely new environment.

“I’m sure they’re really going to enjoy that.

“It’s a state of the art facility, which means we can do our pre-season training at home but in a new place, which they’ll find quite different.”

He added: “Obviously, there’ll be players coming back from World Cup duty for different countries, so they’ll be coming back in a staggered sense.

“That means that, if we stay at home and train in the early days, we won’t have players travelling all around the world.

“We’ve got some good fixtures lined up.”

Saints last week announced trips to Bournemouth, Brighton and Swindon, and Reed said those matches “are good for our fans to get to, and good for those clubs because we’re their local Premier League club”.

He added: “The atmosphere at those games will be good because they will be quite competitive [for] pre-season games. They are our near neighbours, so we did that deliberately.

“It’ll be an opportunity for new players to be seen pretty early if we can get our business done early.

“Then we’ve got two marquee fixtures against European clubs, one away and one at home, which we’re just finalising the details of now.

“They’ll be very good games for us and, by that time, we should have players recovered from their World Cup experiences and new targets coming in.

“Our game at St Mary’s will be the week before the Premier League starts, and we’re hoping that’ll be a bit of a festival.

“The fans will get to see the new players that we’ve brought in and welcome the new manager and any new coaching staff, and hopefully kick off the season with a really upbeat atmosphere.”

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7:11am Thu 12 Jun 14

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

SQUAD ! Will we have a team and manager by then , who can use Staplewood ? Focus on keeping our players , and their continued playing at St Mary s
SQUAD ! Will we have a team and manager by then , who can use Staplewood ? Focus on keeping our players , and their continued playing at St Mary s SPIKEISLANDTRADER
  • Score: -7

7:25am Thu 12 Jun 14

zurichboy says...

"The fans will get to see the new players that we’ve brought in and welcome the new manager "..... so says Les Reed.
A new manager AND new players by the time the pre season friendlies start.... I'm getting unbelievably excited 😃
"The fans will get to see the new players that we’ve brought in and welcome the new manager "..... so says Les Reed. A new manager AND new players by the time the pre season friendlies start.... I'm getting unbelievably excited 😃 zurichboy
  • Score: 13

7:28am Thu 12 Jun 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

FIGHT AND WIN

GOOD - regarding Staplewood.

BIG MISTAKE and a GRAND GESTURE letting Rickie go at that price.
All his mates now want to leave and join him.

TOP LEADERSHIP is required now to plug all the holes on the leaking Ship SFC.

Plenty of damage control and leakstopping to achieve - but the situation is recoverable with DECISIVE ACTION.

THE BOARD / CHAIRMAN need to be communicating regularly with the OWNER and GET THE NEW MANAGER INSTALLED.

He MUST get to work as soon as possible. COYR
FIGHT AND WIN GOOD - regarding Staplewood. BIG MISTAKE and a GRAND GESTURE letting Rickie go at that price. All his mates now want to leave and join him. TOP LEADERSHIP is required now to plug all the holes on the leaking Ship SFC. Plenty of damage control and leakstopping to achieve - but the situation is recoverable with DECISIVE ACTION. THE BOARD / CHAIRMAN need to be communicating regularly with the OWNER and GET THE NEW MANAGER INSTALLED. He MUST get to work as soon as possible. COYR The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: -7

7:32am Thu 12 Jun 14

Sussex Jay says...

Getting the new boss in is more important then headlines about the training centre we all new about,whats the update mr reed??????
Getting the new boss in is more important then headlines about the training centre we all new about,whats the update mr reed?????? Sussex Jay
  • Score: -9

7:34am Thu 12 Jun 14

plastic_fantastic says...

Saints spend £30m, Poopey asking for donations for £250k... Oh how the tables have turned :)
Saints spend £30m, Poopey asking for donations for £250k... Oh how the tables have turned :) plastic_fantastic
  • Score: 27

7:45am Thu 12 Jun 14

damoose says...

The players don`t seem too impressed..I`m scared of Reed`s incompetence he was one of the main reasons behind Charlton`s downfall
The players don`t seem too impressed..I`m scared of Reed`s incompetence he was one of the main reasons behind Charlton`s downfall damoose
  • Score: -30

7:55am Thu 12 Jun 14

SNUGGLES 78 says...

next season will be a disaster .
next season will be a disaster . SNUGGLES 78
  • Score: -39

7:57am Thu 12 Jun 14

long memory says...

Very uplifting to hear J Rod talking in a very positive manner on Radio Solent this morning,how lovely to hear a Saints player talking in an upbeat manner.
Very uplifting to hear J Rod talking in a very positive manner on Radio Solent this morning,how lovely to hear a Saints player talking in an upbeat manner. long memory
  • Score: 30

8:00am Thu 12 Jun 14

justaSaintsfan says...

Wow, this is yet more good news and it is coming from Saints director, Les Reed! We have the new facilities at Staplewood, the appointment of a new manager is imminent and new coaches and new players will also soon be coming to Southampton FC! I believe we are now witnessing the inevitable start of plenty more positive news and things factual coming from the club, instead of all the media's negative rumours. I hope that at last the Saints fans who are unhappy clappers and who believe all that media negativity will soon be a bit optimistic about our Saints!
Wow, this is yet more good news and it is coming from Saints director, Les Reed! We have the new facilities at Staplewood, the appointment of a new manager is imminent and new coaches and new players will also soon be coming to Southampton FC! I believe we are now witnessing the inevitable start of plenty more positive news and things factual coming from the club, instead of all the media's negative rumours. I hope that at last the Saints fans who are unhappy clappers and who believe all that media negativity will soon be a bit optimistic about our Saints! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: 18

8:03am Thu 12 Jun 14

Jesus_02 says...

Quite honestly it looks like the club are going about things in the right manner. I am quite confident that no one will leave until they have spoken to the new manager. Whoever is appointed it will be their job to get the players together as a team and say “right.. the world cup is over, nearly all our players have been linked to top 6 sides, you have great facilities and a club with ambition, we can finish top 6…are you up for it”. If we appoint Steve Bruce then I would be less confident that he will to that job well, if we appoint someone of Mancinni’s standing and get a couple of new players then maybe the players will look around and start to believe again
Quite honestly it looks like the club are going about things in the right manner. I am quite confident that no one will leave until they have spoken to the new manager. Whoever is appointed it will be their job to get the players together as a team and say “right.. the world cup is over, nearly all our players have been linked to top 6 sides, you have great facilities and a club with ambition, we can finish top 6…are you up for it”. If we appoint Steve Bruce then I would be less confident that he will to that job well, if we appoint someone of Mancinni’s standing and get a couple of new players then maybe the players will look around and start to believe again Jesus_02
  • Score: 16

8:05am Thu 12 Jun 14

justaSaintsfan says...

SNUGGLES 78 wrote:
next season will be a disaster .
I don't think so. I reckon Pompey will have a better season!
[quote][p][bold]SNUGGLES 78[/bold] wrote: next season will be a disaster .[/p][/quote]I don't think so. I reckon Pompey will have a better season! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: 4

8:11am Thu 12 Jun 14

andoru says...

Staplewood: where the Premier League's* stars of tomorrow are made.

* not Saints'
Staplewood: where the Premier League's* stars of tomorrow are made. * not Saints' andoru
  • Score: -2

8:33am Thu 12 Jun 14

SodburySaint93 says...

Les looks a bit smug in the picture

Some masterstroke up his sleeve ???

Hope so.

COYS
Les looks a bit smug in the picture Some masterstroke up his sleeve ??? Hope so. COYS SodburySaint93
  • Score: 3

8:34am Thu 12 Jun 14

el caballo santos101 says...

I get more and more confused with some peoples comments.
People moan about there not being the transparency we were told there would be, yet in the last couple of weeks we have had more statements and interviews than in the last 4yrs under NC.
People moan that Les Reed should be concentrating on appointing a new manager than talking about staplewood, or about appointing a new manager. Despite the fact that these comments came from the 'in house' interview he did the other day where he told us that a new manager would be appointed sooner rather than later with just paperwork to be sorted, is that not 'transparency'?
People moan that he is inept and should be doing more to keep MP and the players mostly by offering them more money. MP was offered more money here than at spuds, he was off as soon as NC left nothing was going to stop him and the club did try to keep him. One player has gone, yes a fan favorite but only one. The others have been told they are going nowhere until a new manager is appointed and then only if he agrees. The club have stood firm in the face of an onslaught by certain reporters and clubs offering final take it or leave it bids from clubs who wont meet our valuation.
Then of course the 'this wouldn't have happend under JR'S brigade, really? NC wanted to sack MP and sell SRL to hoof and they are the only 2 who have gone, NC was good but he wasn't the messiah! One player told him he wanted to leave and he sold him straight away, to the club the player wanted to go to. We had lots of players on the books taking a good wage and doing nothing, he couldn't seem to sell the players we didn't want!
Then of course the 'vision' that was of course NC's that we no longer have. It wasn't his vision though it was ML's, NC just implemented it, yes he did it well but it wasn't his. We have also been told that the board want to continue with the vision, so nothings changed, and progress the club with the aim of getting into Europe, the 'southampton way'.
Keep calm and don't panic. If the club appoint a poor manager and sell all the players I will be the first person to vent my anger until then the club have,as ever, my full support.
I get more and more confused with some peoples comments. People moan about there not being the transparency we were told there would be, yet in the last couple of weeks we have had more statements and interviews than in the last 4yrs under NC. People moan that Les Reed should be concentrating on appointing a new manager than talking about staplewood, or about appointing a new manager. Despite the fact that these comments came from the 'in house' interview he did the other day where he told us that a new manager would be appointed sooner rather than later with just paperwork to be sorted, is that not 'transparency'? People moan that he is inept and should be doing more to keep MP and the players mostly by offering them more money. MP was offered more money here than at spuds, he was off as soon as NC left nothing was going to stop him and the club did try to keep him. One player has gone, yes a fan favorite but only one. The others have been told they are going nowhere until a new manager is appointed and then only if he agrees. The club have stood firm in the face of an onslaught by certain reporters and clubs offering final take it or leave it bids from clubs who wont meet our valuation. Then of course the 'this wouldn't have happend under JR'S brigade, really? NC wanted to sack MP and sell SRL to hoof and they are the only 2 who have gone, NC was good but he wasn't the messiah! One player told him he wanted to leave and he sold him straight away, to the club the player wanted to go to. We had lots of players on the books taking a good wage and doing nothing, he couldn't seem to sell the players we didn't want! Then of course the 'vision' that was of course NC's that we no longer have. It wasn't his vision though it was ML's, NC just implemented it, yes he did it well but it wasn't his. We have also been told that the board want to continue with the vision, so nothings changed, and progress the club with the aim of getting into Europe, the 'southampton way'. Keep calm and don't panic. If the club appoint a poor manager and sell all the players I will be the first person to vent my anger until then the club have,as ever, my full support. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 39

8:37am Thu 12 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Apparently the new Staplewood is amazing. Well done Nicola for it was he who drove the project the same project that Ralph talked about the cost of rather than the opportunity it creates.
Apparently the new Staplewood is amazing. Well done Nicola for it was he who drove the project the same project that Ralph talked about the cost of rather than the opportunity it creates. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -17

8:43am Thu 12 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
I get more and more confused with some peoples comments.
People moan about there not being the transparency we were told there would be, yet in the last couple of weeks we have had more statements and interviews than in the last 4yrs under NC.
People moan that Les Reed should be concentrating on appointing a new manager than talking about staplewood, or about appointing a new manager. Despite the fact that these comments came from the 'in house' interview he did the other day where he told us that a new manager would be appointed sooner rather than later with just paperwork to be sorted, is that not 'transparency'?
People moan that he is inept and should be doing more to keep MP and the players mostly by offering them more money. MP was offered more money here than at spuds, he was off as soon as NC left nothing was going to stop him and the club did try to keep him. One player has gone, yes a fan favorite but only one. The others have been told they are going nowhere until a new manager is appointed and then only if he agrees. The club have stood firm in the face of an onslaught by certain reporters and clubs offering final take it or leave it bids from clubs who wont meet our valuation.
Then of course the 'this wouldn't have happend under JR'S brigade, really? NC wanted to sack MP and sell SRL to hoof and they are the only 2 who have gone, NC was good but he wasn't the messiah! One player told him he wanted to leave and he sold him straight away, to the club the player wanted to go to. We had lots of players on the books taking a good wage and doing nothing, he couldn't seem to sell the players we didn't want!
Then of course the 'vision' that was of course NC's that we no longer have. It wasn't his vision though it was ML's, NC just implemented it, yes he did it well but it wasn't his. We have also been told that the board want to continue with the vision, so nothings changed, and progress the club with the aim of getting into Europe, the 'southampton way'.
Keep calm and don't panic. If the club appoint a poor manager and sell all the players I will be the first person to vent my anger until then the club have,as ever, my full support.
You don't know whose vision it was. NC handled ML's investments. Did ML ask NC to find him a football club or did NC say I have a plan I would like to put to you Markus involving an English football club in Administration but with an amazing academy and good infrastructure?
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: I get more and more confused with some peoples comments. People moan about there not being the transparency we were told there would be, yet in the last couple of weeks we have had more statements and interviews than in the last 4yrs under NC. People moan that Les Reed should be concentrating on appointing a new manager than talking about staplewood, or about appointing a new manager. Despite the fact that these comments came from the 'in house' interview he did the other day where he told us that a new manager would be appointed sooner rather than later with just paperwork to be sorted, is that not 'transparency'? People moan that he is inept and should be doing more to keep MP and the players mostly by offering them more money. MP was offered more money here than at spuds, he was off as soon as NC left nothing was going to stop him and the club did try to keep him. One player has gone, yes a fan favorite but only one. The others have been told they are going nowhere until a new manager is appointed and then only if he agrees. The club have stood firm in the face of an onslaught by certain reporters and clubs offering final take it or leave it bids from clubs who wont meet our valuation. Then of course the 'this wouldn't have happend under JR'S brigade, really? NC wanted to sack MP and sell SRL to hoof and they are the only 2 who have gone, NC was good but he wasn't the messiah! One player told him he wanted to leave and he sold him straight away, to the club the player wanted to go to. We had lots of players on the books taking a good wage and doing nothing, he couldn't seem to sell the players we didn't want! Then of course the 'vision' that was of course NC's that we no longer have. It wasn't his vision though it was ML's, NC just implemented it, yes he did it well but it wasn't his. We have also been told that the board want to continue with the vision, so nothings changed, and progress the club with the aim of getting into Europe, the 'southampton way'. Keep calm and don't panic. If the club appoint a poor manager and sell all the players I will be the first person to vent my anger until then the club have,as ever, my full support.[/p][/quote]You don't know whose vision it was. NC handled ML's investments. Did ML ask NC to find him a football club or did NC say I have a plan I would like to put to you Markus involving an English football club in Administration but with an amazing academy and good infrastructure? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -9

8:58am Thu 12 Jun 14

saint christopher says...

As many have pointed out, this facility more than anything else proves the long term commitment and direction of the new board, so let's stop knocking what they do, don't do, say or don't say until things definitely happen or don't happen.

However are we now going to get innumerable articles from the DE based on various bits of Les Reed's statement the other day and presented as if they were latest bits of journalistic investigation? Please don't. I just want to hear about the latest facts not continually regurgitated old news.
As many have pointed out, this facility more than anything else proves the long term commitment and direction of the new board, so let's stop knocking what they do, don't do, say or don't say until things definitely happen or don't happen. However are we now going to get innumerable articles from the DE based on various bits of Les Reed's statement the other day and presented as if they were latest bits of journalistic investigation? Please don't. I just want to hear about the latest facts not continually regurgitated old news. saint christopher
  • Score: 11

9:00am Thu 12 Jun 14

Chapperall says...

I am really pleased to hear this. We now have an outstanding training facility and this will help us attract young players to keep the a Saints tradition in developing British players. With the appointment of a new manager very soon all the doom merchants may then start being a little more positive. Too often we forget what things were like not that long ago. Ok we might lose some players that's what happens but as long as we bring in good replacements we still have a great season ahead of us. So let's get behind the board as it can't have been easy for them. Yes they were outmanoeuvred by Poch but I bet they won't make that mistake again!
I am really pleased to hear this. We now have an outstanding training facility and this will help us attract young players to keep the a Saints tradition in developing British players. With the appointment of a new manager very soon all the doom merchants may then start being a little more positive. Too often we forget what things were like not that long ago. Ok we might lose some players that's what happens but as long as we bring in good replacements we still have a great season ahead of us. So let's get behind the board as it can't have been easy for them. Yes they were outmanoeuvred by Poch but I bet they won't make that mistake again! Chapperall
  • Score: 9

9:04am Thu 12 Jun 14

dualsy says...

Many a player has left and done nothing ,wake up boys stop beliving you own hype.football will drop you like a stone.no one is bigger than there club......
Many a player has left and done nothing ,wake up boys stop beliving you own hype.football will drop you like a stone.no one is bigger than there club...... dualsy
  • Score: 8

9:19am Thu 12 Jun 14

damoose says...

1. That there is a fall out over Guly and other players scouted by people reporting to Les Reed.

2. That there was friction between some of the training staff and AP (and his coaches). These training staff are the ones who report to Reed. Not only AP left but also his coaches.

Has Cortese simply decided to back Reed over AP? Reed often sits with Cortese and they seem to get on well. It would explain the awful timing of the decision with team performance being well down the list of priorities.


The two main rumours are:-

1. That there is a fall out over Guly and other players scouted by people reporting to Les Reed.

2. That there was friction between some of the training staff and AP (and his coaches). These training staff are the ones who report to Reed. Not only AP left but also his coaches.

Has Cortese simply decided to back Reed over AP? Reed often sits with Cortese and they seem to get on well. It would explain the awful timing of the decision with team performance being well down the list of priorities.
1. That there is a fall out over Guly and other players scouted by people reporting to Les Reed. 2. That there was friction between some of the training staff and AP (and his coaches). These training staff are the ones who report to Reed. Not only AP left but also his coaches. Has Cortese simply decided to back Reed over AP? Reed often sits with Cortese and they seem to get on well. It would explain the awful timing of the decision with team performance being well down the list of priorities. The two main rumours are:- 1. That there is a fall out over Guly and other players scouted by people reporting to Les Reed. 2. That there was friction between some of the training staff and AP (and his coaches). These training staff are the ones who report to Reed. Not only AP left but also his coaches. Has Cortese simply decided to back Reed over AP? Reed often sits with Cortese and they seem to get on well. It would explain the awful timing of the decision with team performance being well down the list of priorities. damoose
  • Score: -13

9:23am Thu 12 Jun 14

damoose says...

Im watching you closely Lesley ,finally shafted Dood and Willo he was after them for ages
Im watching you closely Lesley ,finally shafted Dood and Willo he was after them for ages damoose
  • Score: -10

9:23am Thu 12 Jun 14

jls217 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
I get more and more confused with some peoples comments.
People moan about there not being the transparency we were told there would be, yet in the last couple of weeks we have had more statements and interviews than in the last 4yrs under NC.
People moan that Les Reed should be concentrating on appointing a new manager than talking about staplewood, or about appointing a new manager. Despite the fact that these comments came from the 'in house' interview he did the other day where he told us that a new manager would be appointed sooner rather than later with just paperwork to be sorted, is that not 'transparency'?
People moan that he is inept and should be doing more to keep MP and the players mostly by offering them more money. MP was offered more money here than at spuds, he was off as soon as NC left nothing was going to stop him and the club did try to keep him. One player has gone, yes a fan favorite but only one. The others have been told they are going nowhere until a new manager is appointed and then only if he agrees. The club have stood firm in the face of an onslaught by certain reporters and clubs offering final take it or leave it bids from clubs who wont meet our valuation.
Then of course the 'this wouldn't have happend under JR'S brigade, really? NC wanted to sack MP and sell SRL to hoof and they are the only 2 who have gone, NC was good but he wasn't the messiah! One player told him he wanted to leave and he sold him straight away, to the club the player wanted to go to. We had lots of players on the books taking a good wage and doing nothing, he couldn't seem to sell the players we didn't want!
Then of course the 'vision' that was of course NC's that we no longer have. It wasn't his vision though it was ML's, NC just implemented it, yes he did it well but it wasn't his. We have also been told that the board want to continue with the vision, so nothings changed, and progress the club with the aim of getting into Europe, the 'southampton way'.
Keep calm and don't panic. If the club appoint a poor manager and sell all the players I will be the first person to vent my anger until then the club have,as ever, my full support.
You don't know whose vision it was. NC handled ML's investments. Did ML ask NC to find him a football club or did NC say I have a plan I would like to put to you Markus involving an English football club in Administration but with an amazing academy and good infrastructure?
Oh Seedhouse do give it a rest. The back room boys seem to have got their **** together -everything off pitch is in place, they're all doing exactly what they should be doing and things are working out very well. The problems seem to be with the players not wishing to honour their contracts.

Now when the new manager comes in that's his responsibility and they can either knuckle down and do what they are paid to do, sit in the reserves and watch their chances of another world cup appearance slip by them or get their carcasses sold to the highest bidder like a bit of prime beef or a whore outside Kings Cross. Their choice.

Nothing to do with anything going on behind the scenes everything is fitting into place quietly and efficiently there. And who gives a rats turd who first started what, suggested what, financed what. NC was good for this club for a while but just like all medicine prescribed there comes a point you either don't need it any more, it's not effective any more or the doctor decides to try you on something else. His day is over - I for one appreciate what he has done for this club but he's not here any more and no amount of wishing from those like you who won't let go his hand will bring him back. We move on and what we have driving and steering is doing a great job of it in a less than perfect situation. Put the blame on some of the players, one in particular, if you wish but behind the scenes the swan is paddling like ****.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: I get more and more confused with some peoples comments. People moan about there not being the transparency we were told there would be, yet in the last couple of weeks we have had more statements and interviews than in the last 4yrs under NC. People moan that Les Reed should be concentrating on appointing a new manager than talking about staplewood, or about appointing a new manager. Despite the fact that these comments came from the 'in house' interview he did the other day where he told us that a new manager would be appointed sooner rather than later with just paperwork to be sorted, is that not 'transparency'? People moan that he is inept and should be doing more to keep MP and the players mostly by offering them more money. MP was offered more money here than at spuds, he was off as soon as NC left nothing was going to stop him and the club did try to keep him. One player has gone, yes a fan favorite but only one. The others have been told they are going nowhere until a new manager is appointed and then only if he agrees. The club have stood firm in the face of an onslaught by certain reporters and clubs offering final take it or leave it bids from clubs who wont meet our valuation. Then of course the 'this wouldn't have happend under JR'S brigade, really? NC wanted to sack MP and sell SRL to hoof and they are the only 2 who have gone, NC was good but he wasn't the messiah! One player told him he wanted to leave and he sold him straight away, to the club the player wanted to go to. We had lots of players on the books taking a good wage and doing nothing, he couldn't seem to sell the players we didn't want! Then of course the 'vision' that was of course NC's that we no longer have. It wasn't his vision though it was ML's, NC just implemented it, yes he did it well but it wasn't his. We have also been told that the board want to continue with the vision, so nothings changed, and progress the club with the aim of getting into Europe, the 'southampton way'. Keep calm and don't panic. If the club appoint a poor manager and sell all the players I will be the first person to vent my anger until then the club have,as ever, my full support.[/p][/quote]You don't know whose vision it was. NC handled ML's investments. Did ML ask NC to find him a football club or did NC say I have a plan I would like to put to you Markus involving an English football club in Administration but with an amazing academy and good infrastructure?[/p][/quote]Oh Seedhouse do give it a rest. The back room boys seem to have got their **** together -everything off pitch is in place, they're all doing exactly what they should be doing and things are working out very well. The problems seem to be with the players not wishing to honour their contracts. Now when the new manager comes in that's his responsibility and they can either knuckle down and do what they are paid to do, sit in the reserves and watch their chances of another world cup appearance slip by them or get their carcasses sold to the highest bidder like a bit of prime beef or a whore outside Kings Cross. Their choice. Nothing to do with anything going on behind the scenes everything is fitting into place quietly and efficiently there. And who gives a rats turd who first started what, suggested what, financed what. NC was good for this club for a while but just like all medicine prescribed there comes a point you either don't need it any more, it's not effective any more or the doctor decides to try you on something else. His day is over - I for one appreciate what he has done for this club but he's not here any more and no amount of wishing from those like you who won't let go his hand will bring him back. We move on and what we have driving and steering is doing a great job of it in a less than perfect situation. Put the blame on some of the players, one in particular, if you wish but behind the scenes the swan is paddling like ****. jls217
  • Score: 11

9:25am Thu 12 Jun 14

JohnItaly says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Apparently the new Staplewood is amazing. Well done Nicola for it was he who drove the project the same project that Ralph talked about the cost of rather than the opportunity it creates.
I would like to think that the likes of Arsenal, Spurs. Liverpool & Man. Utd did the decent thing and contributed towards the costs of Staplewood's new facilities. After all they are, or could be, the main beneficiaries
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Apparently the new Staplewood is amazing. Well done Nicola for it was he who drove the project the same project that Ralph talked about the cost of rather than the opportunity it creates.[/p][/quote]I would like to think that the likes of Arsenal, Spurs. Liverpool & Man. Utd did the decent thing and contributed towards the costs of Staplewood's new facilities. After all they are, or could be, the main beneficiaries JohnItaly
  • Score: -2

9:31am Thu 12 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

damoose wrote:
1. That there is a fall out over Guly and other players scouted by people reporting to Les Reed.

2. That there was friction between some of the training staff and AP (and his coaches). These training staff are the ones who report to Reed. Not only AP left but also his coaches.

Has Cortese simply decided to back Reed over AP? Reed often sits with Cortese and they seem to get on well. It would explain the awful timing of the decision with team performance being well down the list of priorities.


The two main rumours are:-

1. That there is a fall out over Guly and other players scouted by people reporting to Les Reed.

2. That there was friction between some of the training staff and AP (and his coaches). These training staff are the ones who report to Reed. Not only AP left but also his coaches.

Has Cortese simply decided to back Reed over AP? Reed often sits with Cortese and they seem to get on well. It would explain the awful timing of the decision with team performance being well down the list of priorities.
I suppose that led to our serious decline after AP left.
[quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: 1. That there is a fall out over Guly and other players scouted by people reporting to Les Reed. 2. That there was friction between some of the training staff and AP (and his coaches). These training staff are the ones who report to Reed. Not only AP left but also his coaches. Has Cortese simply decided to back Reed over AP? Reed often sits with Cortese and they seem to get on well. It would explain the awful timing of the decision with team performance being well down the list of priorities. The two main rumours are:- 1. That there is a fall out over Guly and other players scouted by people reporting to Les Reed. 2. That there was friction between some of the training staff and AP (and his coaches). These training staff are the ones who report to Reed. Not only AP left but also his coaches. Has Cortese simply decided to back Reed over AP? Reed often sits with Cortese and they seem to get on well. It would explain the awful timing of the decision with team performance being well down the list of priorities.[/p][/quote]I suppose that led to our serious decline after AP left. Rising_Son
  • Score: 4

10:08am Thu 12 Jun 14

justaSaintsfan says...

jls217 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
I get more and more confused with some peoples comments.
People moan about there not being the transparency we were told there would be, yet in the last couple of weeks we have had more statements and interviews than in the last 4yrs under NC.
People moan that Les Reed should be concentrating on appointing a new manager than talking about staplewood, or about appointing a new manager. Despite the fact that these comments came from the 'in house' interview he did the other day where he told us that a new manager would be appointed sooner rather than later with just paperwork to be sorted, is that not 'transparency'?
People moan that he is inept and should be doing more to keep MP and the players mostly by offering them more money. MP was offered more money here than at spuds, he was off as soon as NC left nothing was going to stop him and the club did try to keep him. One player has gone, yes a fan favorite but only one. The others have been told they are going nowhere until a new manager is appointed and then only if he agrees. The club have stood firm in the face of an onslaught by certain reporters and clubs offering final take it or leave it bids from clubs who wont meet our valuation.
Then of course the 'this wouldn't have happend under JR'S brigade, really? NC wanted to sack MP and sell SRL to hoof and they are the only 2 who have gone, NC was good but he wasn't the messiah! One player told him he wanted to leave and he sold him straight away, to the club the player wanted to go to. We had lots of players on the books taking a good wage and doing nothing, he couldn't seem to sell the players we didn't want!
Then of course the 'vision' that was of course NC's that we no longer have. It wasn't his vision though it was ML's, NC just implemented it, yes he did it well but it wasn't his. We have also been told that the board want to continue with the vision, so nothings changed, and progress the club with the aim of getting into Europe, the 'southampton way'.
Keep calm and don't panic. If the club appoint a poor manager and sell all the players I will be the first person to vent my anger until then the club have,as ever, my full support.
You don't know whose vision it was. NC handled ML's investments. Did ML ask NC to find him a football club or did NC say I have a plan I would like to put to you Markus involving an English football club in Administration but with an amazing academy and good infrastructure?
Oh Seedhouse do give it a rest. The back room boys seem to have got their **** together -everything off pitch is in place, they're all doing exactly what they should be doing and things are working out very well. The problems seem to be with the players not wishing to honour their contracts.

Now when the new manager comes in that's his responsibility and they can either knuckle down and do what they are paid to do, sit in the reserves and watch their chances of another world cup appearance slip by them or get their carcasses sold to the highest bidder like a bit of prime beef or a whore outside Kings Cross. Their choice.

Nothing to do with anything going on behind the scenes everything is fitting into place quietly and efficiently there. And who gives a rats turd who first started what, suggested what, financed what. NC was good for this club for a while but just like all medicine prescribed there comes a point you either don't need it any more, it's not effective any more or the doctor decides to try you on something else. His day is over - I for one appreciate what he has done for this club but he's not here any more and no amount of wishing from those like you who won't let go his hand will bring him back. We move on and what we have driving and steering is doing a great job of it in a less than perfect situation. Put the blame on some of the players, one in particular, if you wish but behind the scenes the swan is paddling like ****.
The swan is paddling like duck??? Lol!
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: I get more and more confused with some peoples comments. People moan about there not being the transparency we were told there would be, yet in the last couple of weeks we have had more statements and interviews than in the last 4yrs under NC. People moan that Les Reed should be concentrating on appointing a new manager than talking about staplewood, or about appointing a new manager. Despite the fact that these comments came from the 'in house' interview he did the other day where he told us that a new manager would be appointed sooner rather than later with just paperwork to be sorted, is that not 'transparency'? People moan that he is inept and should be doing more to keep MP and the players mostly by offering them more money. MP was offered more money here than at spuds, he was off as soon as NC left nothing was going to stop him and the club did try to keep him. One player has gone, yes a fan favorite but only one. The others have been told they are going nowhere until a new manager is appointed and then only if he agrees. The club have stood firm in the face of an onslaught by certain reporters and clubs offering final take it or leave it bids from clubs who wont meet our valuation. Then of course the 'this wouldn't have happend under JR'S brigade, really? NC wanted to sack MP and sell SRL to hoof and they are the only 2 who have gone, NC was good but he wasn't the messiah! One player told him he wanted to leave and he sold him straight away, to the club the player wanted to go to. We had lots of players on the books taking a good wage and doing nothing, he couldn't seem to sell the players we didn't want! Then of course the 'vision' that was of course NC's that we no longer have. It wasn't his vision though it was ML's, NC just implemented it, yes he did it well but it wasn't his. We have also been told that the board want to continue with the vision, so nothings changed, and progress the club with the aim of getting into Europe, the 'southampton way'. Keep calm and don't panic. If the club appoint a poor manager and sell all the players I will be the first person to vent my anger until then the club have,as ever, my full support.[/p][/quote]You don't know whose vision it was. NC handled ML's investments. Did ML ask NC to find him a football club or did NC say I have a plan I would like to put to you Markus involving an English football club in Administration but with an amazing academy and good infrastructure?[/p][/quote]Oh Seedhouse do give it a rest. The back room boys seem to have got their **** together -everything off pitch is in place, they're all doing exactly what they should be doing and things are working out very well. The problems seem to be with the players not wishing to honour their contracts. Now when the new manager comes in that's his responsibility and they can either knuckle down and do what they are paid to do, sit in the reserves and watch their chances of another world cup appearance slip by them or get their carcasses sold to the highest bidder like a bit of prime beef or a whore outside Kings Cross. Their choice. Nothing to do with anything going on behind the scenes everything is fitting into place quietly and efficiently there. And who gives a rats turd who first started what, suggested what, financed what. NC was good for this club for a while but just like all medicine prescribed there comes a point you either don't need it any more, it's not effective any more or the doctor decides to try you on something else. His day is over - I for one appreciate what he has done for this club but he's not here any more and no amount of wishing from those like you who won't let go his hand will bring him back. We move on and what we have driving and steering is doing a great job of it in a less than perfect situation. Put the blame on some of the players, one in particular, if you wish but behind the scenes the swan is paddling like ****.[/p][/quote]The swan is paddling like duck??? Lol! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: 2

10:17am Thu 12 Jun 14

THE12THMAN says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
I get more and more confused with some peoples comments.
People moan about there not being the transparency we were told there would be, yet in the last couple of weeks we have had more statements and interviews than in the last 4yrs under NC.
People moan that Les Reed should be concentrating on appointing a new manager than talking about staplewood, or about appointing a new manager. Despite the fact that these comments came from the 'in house' interview he did the other day where he told us that a new manager would be appointed sooner rather than later with just paperwork to be sorted, is that not 'transparency'?
People moan that he is inept and should be doing more to keep MP and the players mostly by offering them more money. MP was offered more money here than at spuds, he was off as soon as NC left nothing was going to stop him and the club did try to keep him. One player has gone, yes a fan favorite but only one. The others have been told they are going nowhere until a new manager is appointed and then only if he agrees. The club have stood firm in the face of an onslaught by certain reporters and clubs offering final take it or leave it bids from clubs who wont meet our valuation.
Then of course the 'this wouldn't have happend under JR'S brigade, really? NC wanted to sack MP and sell SRL to hoof and they are the only 2 who have gone, NC was good but he wasn't the messiah! One player told him he wanted to leave and he sold him straight away, to the club the player wanted to go to. We had lots of players on the books taking a good wage and doing nothing, he couldn't seem to sell the players we didn't want!
Then of course the 'vision' that was of course NC's that we no longer have. It wasn't his vision though it was ML's, NC just implemented it, yes he did it well but it wasn't his. We have also been told that the board want to continue with the vision, so nothings changed, and progress the club with the aim of getting into Europe, the 'southampton way'.
Keep calm and don't panic. If the club appoint a poor manager and sell all the players I will be the first person to vent my anger until then the club have,as ever, my full support.
At last someone who talks some sense, i like it COYR.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: I get more and more confused with some peoples comments. People moan about there not being the transparency we were told there would be, yet in the last couple of weeks we have had more statements and interviews than in the last 4yrs under NC. People moan that Les Reed should be concentrating on appointing a new manager than talking about staplewood, or about appointing a new manager. Despite the fact that these comments came from the 'in house' interview he did the other day where he told us that a new manager would be appointed sooner rather than later with just paperwork to be sorted, is that not 'transparency'? People moan that he is inept and should be doing more to keep MP and the players mostly by offering them more money. MP was offered more money here than at spuds, he was off as soon as NC left nothing was going to stop him and the club did try to keep him. One player has gone, yes a fan favorite but only one. The others have been told they are going nowhere until a new manager is appointed and then only if he agrees. The club have stood firm in the face of an onslaught by certain reporters and clubs offering final take it or leave it bids from clubs who wont meet our valuation. Then of course the 'this wouldn't have happend under JR'S brigade, really? NC wanted to sack MP and sell SRL to hoof and they are the only 2 who have gone, NC was good but he wasn't the messiah! One player told him he wanted to leave and he sold him straight away, to the club the player wanted to go to. We had lots of players on the books taking a good wage and doing nothing, he couldn't seem to sell the players we didn't want! Then of course the 'vision' that was of course NC's that we no longer have. It wasn't his vision though it was ML's, NC just implemented it, yes he did it well but it wasn't his. We have also been told that the board want to continue with the vision, so nothings changed, and progress the club with the aim of getting into Europe, the 'southampton way'. Keep calm and don't panic. If the club appoint a poor manager and sell all the players I will be the first person to vent my anger until then the club have,as ever, my full support.[/p][/quote]At last someone who talks some sense, i like it COYR. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 4

10:19am Thu 12 Jun 14

Malcombe says...

el caballo santos 101

Fantastic comments that includes everything about the Club, I often agree with your post with thumbs up, IMO it's done with maturity and much thought and I try the same way including editing before I send, keep them coming they are a pleasure to read

damoose

You have some catching up to do surely, have you been hibernating? to update you Alan Pardew was sacked, next was Nigel Adkins who was sacked forl Potchettino who was appointed in 2013 and left in May 2014, he turned out to be dishonest, insincere and disloyal but he did improve the playing style and the Players so now all the Supporters are waiting for the news of the next Manager oh and Rickie Lambert has been sold to Liverpool, as for all the other rumours you should think yourself lucky you weren't around!!
el caballo santos 101 Fantastic comments that includes everything about the Club, I often agree with your post with thumbs up, IMO it's done with maturity and much thought and I try the same way including editing before I send, keep them coming they are a pleasure to read damoose You have some catching up to do surely, have you been hibernating? to update you Alan Pardew was sacked, next was Nigel Adkins who was sacked forl Potchettino who was appointed in 2013 and left in May 2014, he turned out to be dishonest, insincere and disloyal but he did improve the playing style and the Players so now all the Supporters are waiting for the news of the next Manager oh and Rickie Lambert has been sold to Liverpool, as for all the other rumours you should think yourself lucky you weren't around!! Malcombe
  • Score: 1

10:52am Thu 12 Jun 14

damoose says...

@Malcombe

My point is the captain of this ship is like the captain of that Korean ship,you didnt see him walk out with NC did you.....Reed is still here doing the same things he did to AP same things he did at Charlton ,if he dosent get Koeman or Mancini we could have a riot on our hands...Dejan`s transfer request straight after Reed`s interview is a clear indication of whats really going on
@Malcombe My point is the captain of this ship is like the captain of that Korean ship,you didnt see him walk out with NC did you.....Reed is still here doing the same things he did to AP same things he did at Charlton ,if he dosent get Koeman or Mancini we could have a riot on our hands...Dejan`s transfer request straight after Reed`s interview is a clear indication of whats really going on damoose
  • Score: -3

11:01am Thu 12 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

damoose wrote:
@Malcombe

My point is the captain of this ship is like the captain of that Korean ship,you didnt see him walk out with NC did you.....Reed is still here doing the same things he did to AP same things he did at Charlton ,if he dosent get Koeman or Mancini we could have a riot on our hands...Dejan`s transfer request straight after Reed`s interview is a clear indication of whats really going on
Now I'm even more confused. Did Reed go down with the ship our did NC go down with it?
[quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: @Malcombe My point is the captain of this ship is like the captain of that Korean ship,you didnt see him walk out with NC did you.....Reed is still here doing the same things he did to AP same things he did at Charlton ,if he dosent get Koeman or Mancini we could have a riot on our hands...Dejan`s transfer request straight after Reed`s interview is a clear indication of whats really going on[/p][/quote]Now I'm even more confused. Did Reed go down with the ship our did NC go down with it? Rising_Son
  • Score: 3

11:04am Thu 12 Jun 14

damoose says...

Lol ...ok maybe I`m just **** off with Dejans request he`s class mush
Lol ...ok maybe I`m just **** off with Dejans request he`s class mush damoose
  • Score: 0

11:09am Thu 12 Jun 14

SNUGGLES 78 says...

justaSaintsfan wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
I get more and more confused with some peoples comments.
People moan about there not being the transparency we were told there would be, yet in the last couple of weeks we have had more statements and interviews than in the last 4yrs under NC.
People moan that Les Reed should be concentrating on appointing a new manager than talking about staplewood, or about appointing a new manager. Despite the fact that these comments came from the 'in house' interview he did the other day where he told us that a new manager would be appointed sooner rather than later with just paperwork to be sorted, is that not 'transparency'?
People moan that he is inept and should be doing more to keep MP and the players mostly by offering them more money. MP was offered more money here than at spuds, he was off as soon as NC left nothing was going to stop him and the club did try to keep him. One player has gone, yes a fan favorite but only one. The others have been told they are going nowhere until a new manager is appointed and then only if he agrees. The club have stood firm in the face of an onslaught by certain reporters and clubs offering final take it or leave it bids from clubs who wont meet our valuation.
Then of course the 'this wouldn't have happend under JR'S brigade, really? NC wanted to sack MP and sell SRL to hoof and they are the only 2 who have gone, NC was good but he wasn't the messiah! One player told him he wanted to leave and he sold him straight away, to the club the player wanted to go to. We had lots of players on the books taking a good wage and doing nothing, he couldn't seem to sell the players we didn't want!
Then of course the 'vision' that was of course NC's that we no longer have. It wasn't his vision though it was ML's, NC just implemented it, yes he did it well but it wasn't his. We have also been told that the board want to continue with the vision, so nothings changed, and progress the club with the aim of getting into Europe, the 'southampton way'.
Keep calm and don't panic. If the club appoint a poor manager and sell all the players I will be the first person to vent my anger until then the club have,as ever, my full support.
You don't know whose vision it was. NC handled ML's investments. Did ML ask NC to find him a football club or did NC say I have a plan I would like to put to you Markus involving an English football club in Administration but with an amazing academy and good infrastructure?
Oh Seedhouse do give it a rest. The back room boys seem to have got their **** together -everything off pitch is in place, they're all doing exactly what they should be doing and things are working out very well. The problems seem to be with the players not wishing to honour their contracts.

Now when the new manager comes in that's his responsibility and they can either knuckle down and do what they are paid to do, sit in the reserves and watch their chances of another world cup appearance slip by them or get their carcasses sold to the highest bidder like a bit of prime beef or a whore outside Kings Cross. Their choice.

Nothing to do with anything going on behind the scenes everything is fitting into place quietly and efficiently there. And who gives a rats turd who first started what, suggested what, financed what. NC was good for this club for a while but just like all medicine prescribed there comes a point you either don't need it any more, it's not effective any more or the doctor decides to try you on something else. His day is over - I for one appreciate what he has done for this club but he's not here any more and no amount of wishing from those like you who won't let go his hand will bring him back. We move on and what we have driving and steering is doing a great job of it in a less than perfect situation. Put the blame on some of the players, one in particular, if you wish but behind the scenes the swan is paddling like ****.
The swan is paddling like duck??? Lol!
seedy the norhern monkey knows sweet fa about playing football.
[quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: I get more and more confused with some peoples comments. People moan about there not being the transparency we were told there would be, yet in the last couple of weeks we have had more statements and interviews than in the last 4yrs under NC. People moan that Les Reed should be concentrating on appointing a new manager than talking about staplewood, or about appointing a new manager. Despite the fact that these comments came from the 'in house' interview he did the other day where he told us that a new manager would be appointed sooner rather than later with just paperwork to be sorted, is that not 'transparency'? People moan that he is inept and should be doing more to keep MP and the players mostly by offering them more money. MP was offered more money here than at spuds, he was off as soon as NC left nothing was going to stop him and the club did try to keep him. One player has gone, yes a fan favorite but only one. The others have been told they are going nowhere until a new manager is appointed and then only if he agrees. The club have stood firm in the face of an onslaught by certain reporters and clubs offering final take it or leave it bids from clubs who wont meet our valuation. Then of course the 'this wouldn't have happend under JR'S brigade, really? NC wanted to sack MP and sell SRL to hoof and they are the only 2 who have gone, NC was good but he wasn't the messiah! One player told him he wanted to leave and he sold him straight away, to the club the player wanted to go to. We had lots of players on the books taking a good wage and doing nothing, he couldn't seem to sell the players we didn't want! Then of course the 'vision' that was of course NC's that we no longer have. It wasn't his vision though it was ML's, NC just implemented it, yes he did it well but it wasn't his. We have also been told that the board want to continue with the vision, so nothings changed, and progress the club with the aim of getting into Europe, the 'southampton way'. Keep calm and don't panic. If the club appoint a poor manager and sell all the players I will be the first person to vent my anger until then the club have,as ever, my full support.[/p][/quote]You don't know whose vision it was. NC handled ML's investments. Did ML ask NC to find him a football club or did NC say I have a plan I would like to put to you Markus involving an English football club in Administration but with an amazing academy and good infrastructure?[/p][/quote]Oh Seedhouse do give it a rest. The back room boys seem to have got their **** together -everything off pitch is in place, they're all doing exactly what they should be doing and things are working out very well. The problems seem to be with the players not wishing to honour their contracts. Now when the new manager comes in that's his responsibility and they can either knuckle down and do what they are paid to do, sit in the reserves and watch their chances of another world cup appearance slip by them or get their carcasses sold to the highest bidder like a bit of prime beef or a whore outside Kings Cross. Their choice. Nothing to do with anything going on behind the scenes everything is fitting into place quietly and efficiently there. And who gives a rats turd who first started what, suggested what, financed what. NC was good for this club for a while but just like all medicine prescribed there comes a point you either don't need it any more, it's not effective any more or the doctor decides to try you on something else. His day is over - I for one appreciate what he has done for this club but he's not here any more and no amount of wishing from those like you who won't let go his hand will bring him back. We move on and what we have driving and steering is doing a great job of it in a less than perfect situation. Put the blame on some of the players, one in particular, if you wish but behind the scenes the swan is paddling like ****.[/p][/quote]The swan is paddling like duck??? Lol![/p][/quote]seedy the norhern monkey knows sweet fa about playing football. SNUGGLES 78
  • Score: 0

11:15am Thu 12 Jun 14

BarnetSaint says...

Wouldn't it be great if this wonderful faculty could be used to benefit our long term future and not just a processing factory for us to develop great players.... For the benefit of the big bore 4.
Wouldn't it be great if this wonderful faculty could be used to benefit our long term future and not just a processing factory for us to develop great players.... For the benefit of the big bore 4. BarnetSaint
  • Score: -3

12:00pm Thu 12 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
FIGHT AND WIN

GOOD - regarding Staplewood.

BIG MISTAKE and a GRAND GESTURE letting Rickie go at that price.
All his mates now want to leave and join him.

TOP LEADERSHIP is required now to plug all the holes on the leaking Ship SFC.

Plenty of damage control and leakstopping to achieve - but the situation is recoverable with DECISIVE ACTION.

THE BOARD / CHAIRMAN need to be communicating regularly with the OWNER and GET THE NEW MANAGER INSTALLED.

He MUST get to work as soon as possible. COYR
Why the thumbs down for this, it seems to be a reasonable opinion to me?
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: FIGHT AND WIN GOOD - regarding Staplewood. BIG MISTAKE and a GRAND GESTURE letting Rickie go at that price. All his mates now want to leave and join him. TOP LEADERSHIP is required now to plug all the holes on the leaking Ship SFC. Plenty of damage control and leakstopping to achieve - but the situation is recoverable with DECISIVE ACTION. THE BOARD / CHAIRMAN need to be communicating regularly with the OWNER and GET THE NEW MANAGER INSTALLED. He MUST get to work as soon as possible. COYR[/p][/quote]Why the thumbs down for this, it seems to be a reasonable opinion to me? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

12:01pm Thu 12 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

SNUGGLES 78 wrote:
next season will be a disaster .
For whom?
[quote][p][bold]SNUGGLES 78[/bold] wrote: next season will be a disaster .[/p][/quote]For whom? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

12:53pm Thu 12 Jun 14

03alpe01 says...

Seen the new facilities being built at Staplewood. Will look very good once at Melwood.
Seen the new facilities being built at Staplewood. Will look very good once at Melwood. 03alpe01
  • Score: -1

2:23pm Thu 12 Jun 14

NC Fan4Life says...

One of the best facilities in the Premier league !

Les & Ralph why are you considering those that have applied for the new managers job ?
You should be going out to meet the highest profile and successful managers and 'sell' the job to them.
Good young squad, money to improve it, great training facilities and the prospect of an enlarged stadium in a year or two. Do well and settle in for a long term.
One of the best facilities in the Premier league ! Les & Ralph why are you considering those that have applied for the new managers job ? You should be going out to meet the highest profile and successful managers and 'sell' the job to them. Good young squad, money to improve it, great training facilities and the prospect of an enlarged stadium in a year or two. Do well and settle in for a long term. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 0

3:28pm Thu 12 Jun 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Apparently the new Staplewood is amazing. Well done Nicola for it was he who drove the project the same project that Ralph talked about the cost of rather than the opportunity it creates.
come on seed play fair, when the overspend on staplewood was announced you were one of many who blamed NC for going way over budget. you cant now give him the credit for a project which you heavily criticised him for. RK had every right to mention the cost of the project, why shouldn't he? he is trying to be as open as he can and as part of that he spoke about the budget overspend, which had to come out as part of the financial figures.
I know you are a happy clapper at heart and have just become a bit disheartened this summer, but you really cant blame RK for spending too much on the new training ground or for mentioning it, it wouldn't have looked right if he didn't bring it up, especially after his transparency claim.
and yes staplewood looks fantastic, my only problem with it is that they have put a bl00dy big fence along the A326 border so you cant look in when driving past anymore!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Apparently the new Staplewood is amazing. Well done Nicola for it was he who drove the project the same project that Ralph talked about the cost of rather than the opportunity it creates.[/p][/quote]come on seed play fair, when the overspend on staplewood was announced you were one of many who blamed NC for going way over budget. you cant now give him the credit for a project which you heavily criticised him for. RK had every right to mention the cost of the project, why shouldn't he? he is trying to be as open as he can and as part of that he spoke about the budget overspend, which had to come out as part of the financial figures. I know you are a happy clapper at heart and have just become a bit disheartened this summer, but you really cant blame RK for spending too much on the new training ground or for mentioning it, it wouldn't have looked right if he didn't bring it up, especially after his transparency claim. and yes staplewood looks fantastic, my only problem with it is that they have put a bl00dy big fence along the A326 border so you cant look in when driving past anymore! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 3

3:43pm Thu 12 Jun 14

St.Gaz says...

I see the thumb down gang are out in force lol
I see the thumb down gang are out in force lol St.Gaz
  • Score: -2

4:55pm Thu 12 Jun 14

SaintJD says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
FIGHT AND WIN

GOOD - regarding Staplewood.

BIG MISTAKE and a GRAND GESTURE letting Rickie go at that price.
All his mates now want to leave and join him.

TOP LEADERSHIP is required now to plug all the holes on the leaking Ship SFC.

Plenty of damage control and leakstopping to achieve - but the situation is recoverable with DECISIVE ACTION.

THE BOARD / CHAIRMAN need to be communicating regularly with the OWNER and GET THE NEW MANAGER INSTALLED.

He MUST get to work as soon as possible. COYR
Why the thumbs down for this, it seems to be a reasonable opinion to me?
It's because it is at least semi-realistic and passionate. That's not allowed this week :)

This is a positive story, but I think sensible people can see the PR machine's cogs just churning away while the news stories and rumours (rumours admittedly, but some with realistic sources) remain negative.

A new appointment will help rectify this, but the PR stuff won't unfortunately.

The fact the club felt it needed to come out and justify not going abroad for friendlies and training (which is pretty much what this story is all about in reality), suggests there was a cost cutting reason behind it.

That said, I'm more of a fan of playing British clubs pre-season anyway and even though we will be getting some marquee games I personally prefer games that at least slightly mimic the style of play and intensity we'll get in the league. OK, standard of opposition isn't as high, but quicker pace than playing Spanish of Norwegian teams.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: FIGHT AND WIN GOOD - regarding Staplewood. BIG MISTAKE and a GRAND GESTURE letting Rickie go at that price. All his mates now want to leave and join him. TOP LEADERSHIP is required now to plug all the holes on the leaking Ship SFC. Plenty of damage control and leakstopping to achieve - but the situation is recoverable with DECISIVE ACTION. THE BOARD / CHAIRMAN need to be communicating regularly with the OWNER and GET THE NEW MANAGER INSTALLED. He MUST get to work as soon as possible. COYR[/p][/quote]Why the thumbs down for this, it seems to be a reasonable opinion to me?[/p][/quote]It's because it is at least semi-realistic and passionate. That's not allowed this week :) This is a positive story, but I think sensible people can see the PR machine's cogs just churning away while the news stories and rumours (rumours admittedly, but some with realistic sources) remain negative. A new appointment will help rectify this, but the PR stuff won't unfortunately. The fact the club felt it needed to come out and justify not going abroad for friendlies and training (which is pretty much what this story is all about in reality), suggests there was a cost cutting reason behind it. That said, I'm more of a fan of playing British clubs pre-season anyway and even though we will be getting some marquee games I personally prefer games that at least slightly mimic the style of play and intensity we'll get in the league. OK, standard of opposition isn't as high, but quicker pace than playing Spanish of Norwegian teams. SaintJD
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5:39pm Thu 12 Jun 14

el caballo santos101 says...

SaintJD wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
FIGHT AND WIN

GOOD - regarding Staplewood.

BIG MISTAKE and a GRAND GESTURE letting Rickie go at that price.
All his mates now want to leave and join him.

TOP LEADERSHIP is required now to plug all the holes on the leaking Ship SFC.

Plenty of damage control and leakstopping to achieve - but the situation is recoverable with DECISIVE ACTION.

THE BOARD / CHAIRMAN need to be communicating regularly with the OWNER and GET THE NEW MANAGER INSTALLED.

He MUST get to work as soon as possible. COYR
Why the thumbs down for this, it seems to be a reasonable opinion to me?
It's because it is at least semi-realistic and passionate. That's not allowed this week :)

This is a positive story, but I think sensible people can see the PR machine's cogs just churning away while the news stories and rumours (rumours admittedly, but some with realistic sources) remain negative.

A new appointment will help rectify this, but the PR stuff won't unfortunately.

The fact the club felt it needed to come out and justify not going abroad for friendlies and training (which is pretty much what this story is all about in reality), suggests there was a cost cutting reason behind it.

That said, I'm more of a fan of playing British clubs pre-season anyway and even though we will be getting some marquee games I personally prefer games that at least slightly mimic the style of play and intensity we'll get in the league. OK, standard of opposition isn't as high, but quicker pace than playing Spanish of Norwegian teams.
I don't think it had anything to do with cost cutting, nor did the club feel the need to justify not going abroad, they just explained the reasoning behind the decision. people moan that the club aren't being `transparent` as they said they would but then criticise them or read too much into statements when they release them.
the reason that the club aren't going abroad on a pre-season tour is because we have just built a state of the art top quality training facility which they probably think might be just as good to use as any overseas and possibly a good idea to use it. we also have lots of players away at the world cup, with some potential targets there as well. these players will be coming back to the club at different times so going to an overseas training facility just doesn't make sense.
like you I think its a great idea to play local teams, there will be an edge to the games as we are seen as the team to beat. the games in spain last summer were nothing more than a training exercise and the players wouldn't have got much from them. even the Real game at home turned into a nothing game when it could have been an exciting game to watch and a useful game for the players.
I hate the phrase `being realistic` or as you put it `semi-realistic` as we all see things differently and different people views are equally realistic to them.
selling rickie was in my opinion the only option, though I wish it was done after the world cup, does anyone really think that because one player is allowed to leave to his boyhood club the rest of the players want out? surely if they are mates they would be happy that he got his dream move and would have been more upset/annoyed if he was forced to stay. as I said though we all see it differently and my views/opinions are `realistic` to me.
some people are getting `thumbs down` because they keep going on about the sae thing day after day after day, some even claimed that luke and lalla were `done deals` and have already said `I told you so`, most of these claims are baseless and contain no facts whatsoever. most fans on here are fed up with hearing this player is gone, that player has gone, theres no vision or ambition, RK/LR are out of their depth and are being bullied by the big boys, KL is asset stripping, we have no money, we have no manager or its the start of `the domino affect` and even this wouldn't have happened under NC.
we get enough of that carp from the media, almost every rumour of players leaving have no direct quotes from the players and instead are filled with `its believed` or `sources close to`, whilst the stories about players staying have direct quotes from the players, yet people choose to ignore the positives and focus on the negatives, again their choice but as I said most of us are fed up with hearing it, especially from our own fans. that's why some posts from certain people get lots of thumbs down. although having said all that I don't really understand why the post from `rise of` here got thumbs downs, or ospreys post (there are some who thumbs down ospreys posts without even reading them!).
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: FIGHT AND WIN GOOD - regarding Staplewood. BIG MISTAKE and a GRAND GESTURE letting Rickie go at that price. All his mates now want to leave and join him. TOP LEADERSHIP is required now to plug all the holes on the leaking Ship SFC. Plenty of damage control and leakstopping to achieve - but the situation is recoverable with DECISIVE ACTION. THE BOARD / CHAIRMAN need to be communicating regularly with the OWNER and GET THE NEW MANAGER INSTALLED. He MUST get to work as soon as possible. COYR[/p][/quote]Why the thumbs down for this, it seems to be a reasonable opinion to me?[/p][/quote]It's because it is at least semi-realistic and passionate. That's not allowed this week :) This is a positive story, but I think sensible people can see the PR machine's cogs just churning away while the news stories and rumours (rumours admittedly, but some with realistic sources) remain negative. A new appointment will help rectify this, but the PR stuff won't unfortunately. The fact the club felt it needed to come out and justify not going abroad for friendlies and training (which is pretty much what this story is all about in reality), suggests there was a cost cutting reason behind it. That said, I'm more of a fan of playing British clubs pre-season anyway and even though we will be getting some marquee games I personally prefer games that at least slightly mimic the style of play and intensity we'll get in the league. OK, standard of opposition isn't as high, but quicker pace than playing Spanish of Norwegian teams.[/p][/quote]I don't think it had anything to do with cost cutting, nor did the club feel the need to justify not going abroad, they just explained the reasoning behind the decision. people moan that the club aren't being `transparent` as they said they would but then criticise them or read too much into statements when they release them. the reason that the club aren't going abroad on a pre-season tour is because we have just built a state of the art top quality training facility which they probably think might be just as good to use as any overseas and possibly a good idea to use it. we also have lots of players away at the world cup, with some potential targets there as well. these players will be coming back to the club at different times so going to an overseas training facility just doesn't make sense. like you I think its a great idea to play local teams, there will be an edge to the games as we are seen as the team to beat. the games in spain last summer were nothing more than a training exercise and the players wouldn't have got much from them. even the Real game at home turned into a nothing game when it could have been an exciting game to watch and a useful game for the players. I hate the phrase `being realistic` or as you put it `semi-realistic` as we all see things differently and different people views are equally realistic to them. selling rickie was in my opinion the only option, though I wish it was done after the world cup, does anyone really think that because one player is allowed to leave to his boyhood club the rest of the players want out? surely if they are mates they would be happy that he got his dream move and would have been more upset/annoyed if he was forced to stay. as I said though we all see it differently and my views/opinions are `realistic` to me. some people are getting `thumbs down` because they keep going on about the sae thing day after day after day, some even claimed that luke and lalla were `done deals` and have already said `I told you so`, most of these claims are baseless and contain no facts whatsoever. most fans on here are fed up with hearing this player is gone, that player has gone, theres no vision or ambition, RK/LR are out of their depth and are being bullied by the big boys, KL is asset stripping, we have no money, we have no manager or its the start of `the domino affect` and even this wouldn't have happened under NC. we get enough of that carp from the media, almost every rumour of players leaving have no direct quotes from the players and instead are filled with `its believed` or `sources close to`, whilst the stories about players staying have direct quotes from the players, yet people choose to ignore the positives and focus on the negatives, again their choice but as I said most of us are fed up with hearing it, especially from our own fans. that's why some posts from certain people get lots of thumbs down. although having said all that I don't really understand why the post from `rise of` here got thumbs downs, or ospreys post (there are some who thumbs down ospreys posts without even reading them!). el caballo santos101
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