Southampton Football Club to remain unmoved by Liverpool bid for captain Adam Lallana

Saints put Liverpool's Lallana ultimatum to the test

Saints put Liverpool's Lallana ultimatum to the test

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Southampton Football Club are to put Liverpool’s word to the test in a bid to hold on to their captain Adam Lallana.

It comes as the Saints captain and the rest of the England squad set off for Miami this afternoon.

The 26-year-old was picture on the plane sitting next to midfield Jack Wilshere on which the Arsenal player posted on the social network site Instagram, below.

Wilshere posted: "Me and Mr Lallana ready for a long flight!"

Basingstoke Gazette:

Liverpool had initially offered £20m for the 26-year-old, but were unable to convince Saints to sell for that amount.

Yesterday it was reported that they have now upped that offer to £25 million in a bid to convince Saints to sell.

The Anfield side are understood to have said that their latest approach is a final one, and have threatened to move onto other targets if the transfer is not concluded before the World Cup.

That is the same tactic they used to help push through a deal for Lallana's club and international teammate, Rickie Lambert, who is expected to complete his switch to Anfield on Monday.

But Saints look likely to hold off on any offer for Lallana before the World Cup.

The club feel they are in a stronger position when it comes to Lallana, and also Luke Shaw (below), with Manchester United making their own final push to sign the left-back before England depart for Brazil.

United have already offered £27m for the 18-year-old and are keen to wrap up a deal before anyone else can swoop in and hijack it, approaching Saints again yesterday to try and move things forward.

Basingstoke Gazette:

The club want to put transfer dealings on hold until a new manager is in place and the World Cup is over.

It is increasingly unlikely that either player will remain at the club this summer, but Saints feel under less pressure to deal with those matters quickly than they did with Lambert.

Even if they do feel a sale is inevitable, the club know that interest will not disappear and their values may even rise in Brazil.

When they reach Florida Roy Hodgson's squad will take part in a pre-World Cup training camp, before jetting off to South America next Sunday.

Hodgson has said he will allow clubs to send out staff to Florida to conduct medicals in the players' free time if absolutely necessary, but nothing will be allowed once England head to Brazil.

That leaves just a week for any transfers to be completed, although even once the squad depart today it will become increasingly difficult.

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8:33am Sun 1 Jun 14

KSO16R says...

Good!
Good! KSO16R
  • Score: 28

8:40am Sun 1 Jun 14

SodburySaint93 says...

Okay, so it sounds like we are delaying the inevitable.

But...... The club say that they are in a stronger position than with dealings over Rickie - I think we would be in an even stronger position if we quickly appoint a manager and maybe NO deals would go through.
Okay, so it sounds like we are delaying the inevitable. But...... The club say that they are in a stronger position than with dealings over Rickie - I think we would be in an even stronger position if we quickly appoint a manager and maybe NO deals would go through. SodburySaint93
  • Score: 56

8:41am Sun 1 Jun 14

costa gaz says...

He'll leave over the summer, but the deal has to be right. Time to call Liverpool's bluff.
He'll leave over the summer, but the deal has to be right. Time to call Liverpool's bluff. costa gaz
  • Score: 28

8:41am Sun 1 Jun 14

willygetaway says...

Moyes Or Benitez for me , ? Comments ? and why not just say not for sale and lets get at the truth ? COYR
Moyes Or Benitez for me , ? Comments ? and why not just say not for sale and lets get at the truth ? COYR willygetaway
  • Score: 17

8:45am Sun 1 Jun 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Right,that's a quick check of the headlines out of the way,nothing happening then...so,boiled eggs,toast or cornflakes?
Right,that's a quick check of the headlines out of the way,nothing happening then...so,boiled eggs,toast or cornflakes? Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 16

8:46am Sun 1 Jun 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

GOOD that the CLUB are not being swayed by threats and ultimatums.

ADAM is not replaceable and NOT FOR SALE.

We have debated to death (enjoyable that it was) that IMO - a poor decision was made over Rickie who would have been useful to SAINTS for another 2 Seasons - even if only from the Bench or chasing Silverware.

We have progressed Season on Season and will be in direct competition with LFC Manure Everton Spuds etc

News on the Appointment of a TOP EUROPEAN Manager needed to stabilise the ship (rather than an old rickety bus)
GOOD that the CLUB are not being swayed by threats and ultimatums. ADAM is not replaceable and NOT FOR SALE. We have debated to death (enjoyable that it was) that IMO - a poor decision was made over Rickie who would have been useful to SAINTS for another 2 Seasons - even if only from the Bench or chasing Silverware. We have progressed Season on Season and will be in direct competition with LFC Manure Everton Spuds etc News on the Appointment of a TOP EUROPEAN Manager needed to stabilise the ship (rather than an old rickety bus) The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 2

8:47am Sun 1 Jun 14

THE12THMAN says...

Either the scousers pay the money or he stays, simple.
Either the scousers pay the money or he stays, simple. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 17

8:51am Sun 1 Jun 14

Sally Hamilton Original says...

Sean Dyche is set to be unveiled as new manager
Sean Dyche is set to be unveiled as new manager Sally Hamilton Original
  • Score: -69

8:57am Sun 1 Jun 14

Benali76 says...

Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.
Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup. Benali76
  • Score: 13

9:10am Sun 1 Jun 14

Thankyounicola says...

Adam+Luke- Not for sale. LFC and Man U go and develop your own academy players you shameless thieves!
Adam+Luke- Not for sale. LFC and Man U go and develop your own academy players you shameless thieves! Thankyounicola
  • Score: 55

9:12am Sun 1 Jun 14

costa gaz says...

Benali76 wrote:
Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.
Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal
The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.
[quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.[/p][/quote]Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer. costa gaz
  • Score: 9

9:16am Sun 1 Jun 14

NC Fan4Life says...

willygetaway wrote:
Moyes Or Benitez for me , ? Comments ? and why not just say not for sale and lets get at the truth ? COYR
Rafa Benitez is the the best choice. Hi is experienced, successful and wants to come back to the premiership. He is high profile, someone who could convince Adam & Luke etc to stay and attract other top quality players. It is also a chance for the new board to show their ambition.
David Moyes needs time off, and the others listed are not big enough for the job of taking Saints to the next level.
Katharina, Ralph & Les - GO GET RAFA asap.
[quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: Moyes Or Benitez for me , ? Comments ? and why not just say not for sale and lets get at the truth ? COYR[/p][/quote]Rafa Benitez is the the best choice. Hi is experienced, successful and wants to come back to the premiership. He is high profile, someone who could convince Adam & Luke etc to stay and attract other top quality players. It is also a chance for the new board to show their ambition. David Moyes needs time off, and the others listed are not big enough for the job of taking Saints to the next level. Katharina, Ralph & Les - GO GET RAFA asap. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 32

9:16am Sun 1 Jun 14

redandy10 says...

He's OUR player and we DON'T want to sell him, yet they're giving us ultimatums?

There is no bluff to be called, tell them NO!!!

This is a chance for the club to draw a line in the sand and say enough. Ralph should be as stubborn, uncooperative & high handed with them as possible. They like all clubs will want to move on to another target if the negotiation process is protracted. Good! Let's drag it out!!!

And the same goes for Man U & Tottenham, quote them over the top figures and let them see that trying to buy our players is like getting blood out a stone.

We have every RIGHT to behave in this fashion, and although it's far from graceful we need put future of THE CLUB first and not the wishes of Adam & Luke!!!
He's OUR player and we DON'T want to sell him, yet they're giving us ultimatums? There is no bluff to be called, tell them NO!!! This is a chance for the club to draw a line in the sand and say enough. Ralph should be as stubborn, uncooperative & high handed with them as possible. They like all clubs will want to move on to another target if the negotiation process is protracted. Good! Let's drag it out!!! And the same goes for Man U & Tottenham, quote them over the top figures and let them see that trying to buy our players is like getting blood out a stone. We have every RIGHT to behave in this fashion, and although it's far from graceful we need put future of THE CLUB first and not the wishes of Adam & Luke!!! redandy10
  • Score: 38

9:18am Sun 1 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

Has Saints answer been "no" or "come back with a better offer"?
Has Saints answer been "no" or "come back with a better offer"? Rising_Son
  • Score: 8

9:20am Sun 1 Jun 14

costa gaz says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Has Saints answer been "no" or "come back with a better offer"?
I think both
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: Has Saints answer been "no" or "come back with a better offer"?[/p][/quote]I think both costa gaz
  • Score: 2

9:22am Sun 1 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

costa gaz wrote:
Benali76 wrote:
Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.
Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal
The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.
If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.[/p][/quote]Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.[/p][/quote]If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.) Rising_Son
  • Score: 4

9:24am Sun 1 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Has Saints answer been "no" or "come back with a better offer"?
I think both
That would be unnecessarily verbose.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: Has Saints answer been "no" or "come back with a better offer"?[/p][/quote]I think both[/p][/quote]That would be unnecessarily verbose. Rising_Son
  • Score: 2

9:25am Sun 1 Jun 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Adam is English, which is an asset with the new rules. What other English player is there of his type and quality that we could buy to replace him with ?
There isn't, so that makes him worth an average of at least £9m per season over the next six seasons of his career. Therefore only offers over £50m please anything less is too cheap. Hopefully he will stay with Saints and lead us into Europe.
So Les & Ralph, tell Liverpool where to go and go get Rafa asap.
Adam is English, which is an asset with the new rules. What other English player is there of his type and quality that we could buy to replace him with ? There isn't, so that makes him worth an average of at least £9m per season over the next six seasons of his career. Therefore only offers over £50m please anything less is too cheap. Hopefully he will stay with Saints and lead us into Europe. So Les & Ralph, tell Liverpool where to go and go get Rafa asap. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 16

9:28am Sun 1 Jun 14

costa gaz says...

Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Benali76 wrote:
Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.
Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal
The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.
If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)
Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee.
At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces.
The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.[/p][/quote]Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.[/p][/quote]If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)[/p][/quote]Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee. At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces. The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball. costa gaz
  • Score: 7

9:33am Sun 1 Jun 14

saintbobby says...

willygetaway wrote:
Moyes Or Benitez for me , ? Comments ? and why not just say not for sale and lets get at the truth ? COYR
My analysis as well. Hope you read my post about this yesterday.

Board, please just get on with it!
[quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: Moyes Or Benitez for me , ? Comments ? and why not just say not for sale and lets get at the truth ? COYR[/p][/quote]My analysis as well. Hope you read my post about this yesterday. Board, please just get on with it! saintbobby
  • Score: 7

9:33am Sun 1 Jun 14

rossofficial10 says...

willygetaway wrote:
Moyes Or Benitez for me , ? Comments ? and why not just say not for sale and lets get at the truth ? COYR
here here
[quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: Moyes Or Benitez for me , ? Comments ? and why not just say not for sale and lets get at the truth ? COYR[/p][/quote]here here rossofficial10
  • Score: -4

9:33am Sun 1 Jun 14

rossofficial10 says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Right,that's a quick check of the headlines out of the way,nothing happening then...so,boiled eggs,toast or cornflakes?
weetabix mate
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: Right,that's a quick check of the headlines out of the way,nothing happening then...so,boiled eggs,toast or cornflakes?[/p][/quote]weetabix mate rossofficial10
  • Score: 4

9:35am Sun 1 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Benali76 wrote:
Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.
Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal
The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.
If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)
Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee.
At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces.
The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.
I hope we're not going to play. However, if we are, I also hope we do play hardball. I mean, it would be a poor bit of business if we're serious about progressing next season, and an even worse bit of business if the board and owner are asset-stripping.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.[/p][/quote]Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.[/p][/quote]If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)[/p][/quote]Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee. At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces. The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.[/p][/quote]I hope we're not going to play. However, if we are, I also hope we do play hardball. I mean, it would be a poor bit of business if we're serious about progressing next season, and an even worse bit of business if the board and owner are asset-stripping. Rising_Son
  • Score: 5

9:36am Sun 1 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Quote: The Anfield side are understood to have said? No source quoted, what have Southampton FC actually said? Who knows?
Quote: The Anfield side are understood to have said? No source quoted, what have Southampton FC actually said? Who knows? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -5

9:38am Sun 1 Jun 14

hedge end bob says...

Latest news. , Sir Alf Ramsey and Ted Drake were seen outside ST MARYS talking and shaking their heads with their palms facing upwards!!!

We need to stand up to clubs like Spuds and Diverpool. I really hope it was a one off sale of a player as important as Rickie although fully understandable in the cold light of day.The players should also be reminded that they freely signed a contract with the club on a long term deal.By doing this they safe guard their income and security for the lenght of the contract. The club are the ones that take al the risks because nobody can foresee a career finishing injury.
We need that manger in and talking to our players not oher players from other clubs. Come on SFC the managers position can not be sat on until all our best players have fanished out of sight . PUT SOME FAITH BACK INTO THE HEART OF OUR GREAT CLUB, and if you don't know who that is were in trouble.
STID . FECK OFF VULTURES AND LAY YOUR OWN EGGS.
Latest news. , Sir Alf Ramsey and Ted Drake were seen outside ST MARYS talking and shaking their heads with their palms facing upwards!!! We need to stand up to clubs like Spuds and Diverpool. I really hope it was a one off sale of a player as important as Rickie although fully understandable in the cold light of day.The players should also be reminded that they freely signed a contract with the club on a long term deal.By doing this they safe guard their income and security for the lenght of the contract. The club are the ones that take al the risks because nobody can foresee a career finishing injury. We need that manger in and talking to our players not oher players from other clubs. Come on SFC the managers position can not be sat on until all our best players have fanished out of sight . PUT SOME FAITH BACK INTO THE HEART OF OUR GREAT CLUB, and if you don't know who that is were in trouble. STID . FECK OFF VULTURES AND LAY YOUR OWN EGGS. hedge end bob
  • Score: 21

9:40am Sun 1 Jun 14

The Grinch says...

Technically we still hold the cards - tell them no and leave it at that. Lallana signed a contract and whether he likes it or not, he stays if Saints say so. We have to do this or we show no ambition whatsoever. For £20million we can't get another playmaker and the team is severely weakened without him. If he doesn't like it then we're no worse off - if he goes we haven't got him, if he stays and is unhappy then we haven't got him either - for a while perhaps, but he'll come round.

Next, appoint a manager swiftly - I suggest Glenn Hoddle or Rafa Benitez. That way, our players will have a reason to stay - unlike currently, where Saints are a rudderless ship bobbing around.

Shaw - I'd slap a price tag on him of £40million - take it or leave it. They'll leave it, we'll keep him. Same as for Adam above, he'll come round. He has time on his side.

Its a shame to see Rickie go - but this is a deal for HIM not the club. The 4 or 5 million is no use to us as we can't replace him with that, so from the club's point of view it's completely useless. This is a favour for Rickie - and I don't deny him it
Technically we still hold the cards - tell them no and leave it at that. Lallana signed a contract and whether he likes it or not, he stays if Saints say so. We have to do this or we show no ambition whatsoever. For £20million we can't get another playmaker and the team is severely weakened without him. If he doesn't like it then we're no worse off - if he goes we haven't got him, if he stays and is unhappy then we haven't got him either - for a while perhaps, but he'll come round. Next, appoint a manager swiftly - I suggest Glenn Hoddle or Rafa Benitez. That way, our players will have a reason to stay - unlike currently, where Saints are a rudderless ship bobbing around. Shaw - I'd slap a price tag on him of £40million - take it or leave it. They'll leave it, we'll keep him. Same as for Adam above, he'll come round. He has time on his side. Its a shame to see Rickie go - but this is a deal for HIM not the club. The 4 or 5 million is no use to us as we can't replace him with that, so from the club's point of view it's completely useless. This is a favour for Rickie - and I don't deny him it The Grinch
  • Score: 25

9:43am Sun 1 Jun 14

saintbobby says...

Manure said some weeks ago that they were prepared to break the bank to sign Luke. The Bank is Gareth Bale (another one of OURS) and that is £87 million! So how is £27 million going to break the bank?

Others have wisely said, tell these clubs the price and assuming we do not want to sell, then the price should be something like £50 million. Now we might actually take that!

I am puzzled by Brendon Rodgers. TWICE I have given him the good advice to go and jump in the Mersey. I cannot think of a better solution Brendon, so please, just do it - jump!

And again on our new manager. Wouldn't it be lovely if Rafa did accept the job and then, as an ex-Liverpool manager, he could also say to Brendon - go jump in the Mersey. Would love that.
Manure said some weeks ago that they were prepared to break the bank to sign Luke. The Bank is Gareth Bale (another one of OURS) and that is £87 million! So how is £27 million going to break the bank? Others have wisely said, tell these clubs the price and assuming we do not want to sell, then the price should be something like £50 million. Now we might actually take that! I am puzzled by Brendon Rodgers. TWICE I have given him the good advice to go and jump in the Mersey. I cannot think of a better solution Brendon, so please, just do it - jump! And again on our new manager. Wouldn't it be lovely if Rafa did accept the job and then, as an ex-Liverpool manager, he could also say to Brendon - go jump in the Mersey. Would love that. saintbobby
  • Score: 15

9:44am Sun 1 Jun 14

saintbobby says...

rossofficial10 wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
Moyes Or Benitez for me , ? Comments ? and why not just say not for sale and lets get at the truth ? COYR
here here
Actually, hear, hear! But you know I agree.
[quote][p][bold]rossofficial10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: Moyes Or Benitez for me , ? Comments ? and why not just say not for sale and lets get at the truth ? COYR[/p][/quote]here here[/p][/quote]Actually, hear, hear! But you know I agree. saintbobby
  • Score: 2

9:46am Sun 1 Jun 14

hedge end bob says...

Shoul read vanished , should of put my specs on!!!!
Shoul read vanished , should of put my specs on!!!! hedge end bob
  • Score: 1

9:48am Sun 1 Jun 14

DCbovivet says...

rossofficial10 wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
Moyes Or Benitez for me , ? Comments ? and why not just say not for sale and lets get at the truth ? COYR
here here
Agree totally. Stability is the key now. Koeman has had success but seems to jump ship as often as a pirate with his breeches on fire. Both Rafa and Moyesy have history of sticking around. Either would be great, but perhaps Rafa would be greatest. AND I think he would keep Adam and Luke and the rest of the boys on side. Maybe...............
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[quote][p][bold]rossofficial10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: Moyes Or Benitez for me , ? Comments ? and why not just say not for sale and lets get at the truth ? COYR[/p][/quote]here here[/p][/quote]Agree totally. Stability is the key now. Koeman has had success but seems to jump ship as often as a pirate with his breeches on fire. Both Rafa and Moyesy have history of sticking around. Either would be great, but perhaps Rafa would be greatest. AND I think he would keep Adam and Luke and the rest of the boys on side. Maybe............... .... DCbovivet
  • Score: 4

9:57am Sun 1 Jun 14

costa gaz says...

Benitez commands a wage of around £5m pa, moyes would still get £3m.
If my memory is correct Poch was on £1m.
Is the board willing or able to invest in a proven manager or will they go for the cheaper option and hope he turns into another Pochettino?
Benitez commands a wage of around £5m pa, moyes would still get £3m. If my memory is correct Poch was on £1m. Is the board willing or able to invest in a proven manager or will they go for the cheaper option and hope he turns into another Pochettino? costa gaz
  • Score: 5

9:58am Sun 1 Jun 14

redandy10 says...

Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Benali76 wrote:
Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.
Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal
The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.
If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)
Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee.
At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces.
The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.
I hope we're not going to play. However, if we are, I also hope we do play hardball. I mean, it would be a poor bit of business if we're serious about progressing next season, and an even worse bit of business if the board and owner are asset-stripping.
Exactly!
In the long term we won't be able to keep every single player,but we can try to fleece these clubs and muck up their planning process as much as possible, which in the process might put off other clubs from launching any potential bids.

I personally don't buy this whole asset-stripping line. IMO KL mucked up big time with the NC thing, but i believe that she does want to move the club forward. I'm very skeptical we have the right group running things to accomplish this. And I'm sure she wants to reign in spending as much as possible and i'm worried she may be taking soundings from Les Reed.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.[/p][/quote]Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.[/p][/quote]If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)[/p][/quote]Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee. At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces. The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.[/p][/quote]I hope we're not going to play. However, if we are, I also hope we do play hardball. I mean, it would be a poor bit of business if we're serious about progressing next season, and an even worse bit of business if the board and owner are asset-stripping.[/p][/quote]Exactly! In the long term we won't be able to keep every single player,but we can try to fleece these clubs and muck up their planning process as much as possible, which in the process might put off other clubs from launching any potential bids. I personally don't buy this whole asset-stripping line. IMO KL mucked up big time with the NC thing, but i believe that she does want to move the club forward. I'm very skeptical we have the right group running things to accomplish this. And I'm sure she wants to reign in spending as much as possible and i'm worried she may be taking soundings from Les Reed. redandy10
  • Score: 5

9:59am Sun 1 Jun 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Adam is the center piece of the Saints unity. There is no English player to replace him with, he is our talisman.
He is the one player who as long as he stays will help convince the others to stay along with the new manager.
For Saints to step up we need a PROVEN, EXPERIENCED AND HIGH PROFILE MANAGER to show everyone that the new board have real ambition.
So Katharina, Ralph & Les don't go cheap, spend a bit, and GET RAFA BENITEZ now he is the only one who ticks all the boxes and wants to come back to the premiership.
Adam is the center piece of the Saints unity. There is no English player to replace him with, he is our talisman. He is the one player who as long as he stays will help convince the others to stay along with the new manager. For Saints to step up we need a PROVEN, EXPERIENCED AND HIGH PROFILE MANAGER to show everyone that the new board have real ambition. So Katharina, Ralph & Les don't go cheap, spend a bit, and GET RAFA BENITEZ now he is the only one who ticks all the boxes and wants to come back to the premiership. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 10

10:00am Sun 1 Jun 14

Clever Dick says...

Blimey. Where are all the doom mongers and whingers this morning . I haven'theard of hundreds of mass suicides in the Southampton area yet. Perhaps they are all sleeping off yesterday's drunken rants and insults. Looks like the club did make an exception over player transfers with regards to Sir Rickie. Good luck to him. I think we will see him make some pretty emotional comments on Monday when he signs for the northern thieves. As for Adam tell them to do one. Poch will probably come in and offer £30mil anyway, thus disproving the theory he want C/L football. It's about money. Victor Wanyama left a side guaranteed of C/L football by virtue of the fact that the SPL is a mickey mouse league, and he came to Saints. Why? Cos he got more money. PS If we value Adam at £30 mil the price to the Spuds should be £40mil.
Blimey. Where are all the doom mongers and whingers this morning . I haven'theard of hundreds of mass suicides in the Southampton area yet. Perhaps they are all sleeping off yesterday's drunken rants and insults. Looks like the club did make an exception over player transfers with regards to Sir Rickie. Good luck to him. I think we will see him make some pretty emotional comments on Monday when he signs for the northern thieves. As for Adam tell them to do one. Poch will probably come in and offer £30mil anyway, thus disproving the theory he want C/L football. It's about money. Victor Wanyama left a side guaranteed of C/L football by virtue of the fact that the SPL is a mickey mouse league, and he came to Saints. Why? Cos he got more money. PS If we value Adam at £30 mil the price to the Spuds should be £40mil. Clever Dick
  • Score: 8

10:01am Sun 1 Jun 14

THE12THMAN says...

costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Benali76 wrote:
Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.
Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal
The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.
If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)
Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee.
At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces.
The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.
If he is on a long contract they are not quite holding all the aces are they.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.[/p][/quote]Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.[/p][/quote]If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)[/p][/quote]Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee. At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces. The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.[/p][/quote]If he is on a long contract they are not quite holding all the aces are they. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 2

10:08am Sun 1 Jun 14

costa gaz says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
Adam is the center piece of the Saints unity. There is no English player to replace him with, he is our talisman.
He is the one player who as long as he stays will help convince the others to stay along with the new manager.
For Saints to step up we need a PROVEN, EXPERIENCED AND HIGH PROFILE MANAGER to show everyone that the new board have real ambition.
So Katharina, Ralph & Les don't go cheap, spend a bit, and GET RAFA BENITEZ now he is the only one who ticks all the boxes and wants to come back to the premiership.
Convincing Rafa Benitez to come here could prove to be as difficult as convincing our best players to stay.
Once again it will boil down to how ambtious our club is, they have not filled me with much confidence so far........
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Adam is the center piece of the Saints unity. There is no English player to replace him with, he is our talisman. He is the one player who as long as he stays will help convince the others to stay along with the new manager. For Saints to step up we need a PROVEN, EXPERIENCED AND HIGH PROFILE MANAGER to show everyone that the new board have real ambition. So Katharina, Ralph & Les don't go cheap, spend a bit, and GET RAFA BENITEZ now he is the only one who ticks all the boxes and wants to come back to the premiership.[/p][/quote]Convincing Rafa Benitez to come here could prove to be as difficult as convincing our best players to stay. Once again it will boil down to how ambtious our club is, they have not filled me with much confidence so far........ costa gaz
  • Score: 2

10:10am Sun 1 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Benali76 wrote:
Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.
Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal
The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.
If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)
Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee.
At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces.
The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.
I hope we're not going to play. However, if we are, I also hope we do play hardball. I mean, it would be a poor bit of business if we're serious about progressing next season, and an even worse bit of business if the board and owner are asset-stripping.
Exactly!
In the long term we won't be able to keep every single player,but we can try to fleece these clubs and muck up their planning process as much as possible, which in the process might put off other clubs from launching any potential bids.

I personally don't buy this whole asset-stripping line. IMO KL mucked up big time with the NC thing, but i believe that she does want to move the club forward. I'm very skeptical we have the right group running things to accomplish this. And I'm sure she wants to reign in spending as much as possible and i'm worried she may be taking soundings from Les Reed.
I don't buy the asset stripping thing, either. I also don't know enough to blame Les Reed for it all (or anyone else for that matter). (Les Reed seems to be becoming the new Guly.)

RK might be right when he says he's got a lot to learn (or something like that). I can only hope he's a very, very quick learner.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.[/p][/quote]Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.[/p][/quote]If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)[/p][/quote]Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee. At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces. The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.[/p][/quote]I hope we're not going to play. However, if we are, I also hope we do play hardball. I mean, it would be a poor bit of business if we're serious about progressing next season, and an even worse bit of business if the board and owner are asset-stripping.[/p][/quote]Exactly! In the long term we won't be able to keep every single player,but we can try to fleece these clubs and muck up their planning process as much as possible, which in the process might put off other clubs from launching any potential bids. I personally don't buy this whole asset-stripping line. IMO KL mucked up big time with the NC thing, but i believe that she does want to move the club forward. I'm very skeptical we have the right group running things to accomplish this. And I'm sure she wants to reign in spending as much as possible and i'm worried she may be taking soundings from Les Reed.[/p][/quote]I don't buy the asset stripping thing, either. I also don't know enough to blame Les Reed for it all (or anyone else for that matter). (Les Reed seems to be becoming the new Guly.) RK might be right when he says he's got a lot to learn (or something like that). I can only hope he's a very, very quick learner. Rising_Son
  • Score: 5

10:12am Sun 1 Jun 14

NC Fan4Life says...

rossofficial10 wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
Moyes Or Benitez for me , ? Comments ? and why not just say not for sale and lets get at the truth ? COYR
here here
Agreed. Rafa Benitez is head & shoulders above the rest and wants to return to the Premiership. Moyes needs a break from football.
Go and get him Katharina, Ralph & Les that will really show us your ambition for taking Saints to the next level, spending money on him will be well worth it for the short & long term future of the club.
He would convince Adam, Luke and the rest to stay and attract the top players will need to take us to Europe.
Appointing Rafa would really upset the top clubs !!

GO GET RAFA BENITEZ asap.
[quote][p][bold]rossofficial10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: Moyes Or Benitez for me , ? Comments ? and why not just say not for sale and lets get at the truth ? COYR[/p][/quote]here here[/p][/quote]Agreed. Rafa Benitez is head & shoulders above the rest and wants to return to the Premiership. Moyes needs a break from football. Go and get him Katharina, Ralph & Les that will really show us your ambition for taking Saints to the next level, spending money on him will be well worth it for the short & long term future of the club. He would convince Adam, Luke and the rest to stay and attract the top players will need to take us to Europe. Appointing Rafa would really upset the top clubs !! GO GET RAFA BENITEZ asap. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 9

10:16am Sun 1 Jun 14

mickey01 says...

laudrop for me but benitez is a good shout but would only use us as a way of getting back to the premiership until the so called bigger clubs come calling in the future
laudrop for me but benitez is a good shout but would only use us as a way of getting back to the premiership until the so called bigger clubs come calling in the future mickey01
  • Score: -4

10:19am Sun 1 Jun 14

saint phil says...

Tell them to take a long walk off a Short Pier.
Tell them to take a long walk off a Short Pier. saint phil
  • Score: 1

10:21am Sun 1 Jun 14

Buddy SFC says...

costa gaz wrote:
Benali76 wrote:
Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.
Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal
The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.
Spot on ..... No point keeping him if he has made up his mind !
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.[/p][/quote]Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.[/p][/quote]Spot on ..... No point keeping him if he has made up his mind ! Buddy SFC
  • Score: 2

10:22am Sun 1 Jun 14

Confucious says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Blimey. Where are all the doom mongers and whingers this morning . I haven'theard of hundreds of mass suicides in the Southampton area yet. Perhaps they are all sleeping off yesterday's drunken rants and insults. Looks like the club did make an exception over player transfers with regards to Sir Rickie. Good luck to him. I think we will see him make some pretty emotional comments on Monday when he signs for the northern thieves. As for Adam tell them to do one. Poch will probably come in and offer £30mil anyway, thus disproving the theory he want C/L football. It's about money. Victor Wanyama left a side guaranteed of C/L football by virtue of the fact that the SPL is a mickey mouse league, and he came to Saints. Why? Cos he got more money. PS If we value Adam at £30 mil the price to the Spuds should be £40mil.
Yeah, more cheerful so far today. I think the doomsters are out with lighted candles looking for gas leaks under St Marys.

I laced my Auntie Elspeth's breakfast with cat food this morning and it's done wonders for my spirit.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: Blimey. Where are all the doom mongers and whingers this morning . I haven'theard of hundreds of mass suicides in the Southampton area yet. Perhaps they are all sleeping off yesterday's drunken rants and insults. Looks like the club did make an exception over player transfers with regards to Sir Rickie. Good luck to him. I think we will see him make some pretty emotional comments on Monday when he signs for the northern thieves. As for Adam tell them to do one. Poch will probably come in and offer £30mil anyway, thus disproving the theory he want C/L football. It's about money. Victor Wanyama left a side guaranteed of C/L football by virtue of the fact that the SPL is a mickey mouse league, and he came to Saints. Why? Cos he got more money. PS If we value Adam at £30 mil the price to the Spuds should be £40mil.[/p][/quote]Yeah, more cheerful so far today. I think the doomsters are out with lighted candles looking for gas leaks under St Marys. I laced my Auntie Elspeth's breakfast with cat food this morning and it's done wonders for my spirit. Confucious
  • Score: 4

10:23am Sun 1 Jun 14

NC Fan4Life says...

costa gaz wrote:
Benitez commands a wage of around £5m pa, moyes would still get £3m.
If my memory is correct Poch was on £1m.
Is the board willing or able to invest in a proven manager or will they go for the cheaper option and hope he turns into another Pochettino?
Rafa would earn that back in no time.
A top world football manager at £5m per year for a 4 year contract is worth it and Rafa would earn that back in no time.
Saints are is a position to attract him, provided we do not sell any other players. He is a high profile manager and would really show the new boards ambition to take Saints into Europe and repay his high salary.
Adam & Luke (who are both worth at least double the current offers) would be convinced to stay and it would really upset the other top clubs, who will then have to take Saints seriously, not treat us as second class.

Come on Katharina, Ralph & Les GO GET RAFA BENITEZ NOW !!
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Benitez commands a wage of around £5m pa, moyes would still get £3m. If my memory is correct Poch was on £1m. Is the board willing or able to invest in a proven manager or will they go for the cheaper option and hope he turns into another Pochettino?[/p][/quote]Rafa would earn that back in no time. A top world football manager at £5m per year for a 4 year contract is worth it and Rafa would earn that back in no time. Saints are is a position to attract him, provided we do not sell any other players. He is a high profile manager and would really show the new boards ambition to take Saints into Europe and repay his high salary. Adam & Luke (who are both worth at least double the current offers) would be convinced to stay and it would really upset the other top clubs, who will then have to take Saints seriously, not treat us as second class. Come on Katharina, Ralph & Les GO GET RAFA BENITEZ NOW !! NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 4

10:24am Sun 1 Jun 14

costa gaz says...

THE12THMAN wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Benali76 wrote:
Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.
Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal
The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.
If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)
Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee.
At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces.
The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.
If he is on a long contract they are not quite holding all the aces are they.
Players and agents always hold all the aces, this is not 1975 with the likes of Brian Clough running clubs." You're going nowhere young man, now get those terraces swept"
Contracts can and will always be broken by players, but clubs are rarely able to break one.
Example: Ben Haim at pompey, knew he was not going to get 75k/wk anywhere else so as much as they tried to sell him, he kept saying no and carried on collecting his wage (sometimes )
It is extremely rare for a club to hang on to a player who wants to leave with out a massive incentive.
[quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.[/p][/quote]Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.[/p][/quote]If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)[/p][/quote]Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee. At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces. The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.[/p][/quote]If he is on a long contract they are not quite holding all the aces are they.[/p][/quote]Players and agents always hold all the aces, this is not 1975 with the likes of Brian Clough running clubs." You're going nowhere young man, now get those terraces swept" Contracts can and will always be broken by players, but clubs are rarely able to break one. Example: Ben Haim at pompey, knew he was not going to get 75k/wk anywhere else so as much as they tried to sell him, he kept saying no and carried on collecting his wage (sometimes ) It is extremely rare for a club to hang on to a player who wants to leave with out a massive incentive. costa gaz
  • Score: 3

10:27am Sun 1 Jun 14

redandy10 says...

Rising_Son wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Benali76 wrote:
Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.
Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal
The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.
If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)
Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee.
At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces.
The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.
I hope we're not going to play. However, if we are, I also hope we do play hardball. I mean, it would be a poor bit of business if we're serious about progressing next season, and an even worse bit of business if the board and owner are asset-stripping.
Exactly!
In the long term we won't be able to keep every single player,but we can try to fleece these clubs and muck up their planning process as much as possible, which in the process might put off other clubs from launching any potential bids.

I personally don't buy this whole asset-stripping line. IMO KL mucked up big time with the NC thing, but i believe that she does want to move the club forward. I'm very skeptical we have the right group running things to accomplish this. And I'm sure she wants to reign in spending as much as possible and i'm worried she may be taking soundings from Les Reed.
I don't buy the asset stripping thing, either. I also don't know enough to blame Les Reed for it all (or anyone else for that matter). (Les Reed seems to be becoming the new Guly.)

RK might be right when he says he's got a lot to learn (or something like that). I can only hope he's a very, very quick learner.
I don't think blame for Poch & Lambert leaving can be apportioned to Les Reed. But from what I have read & been told about him I'm not sold on him. And he's was appointed by NC was he not? Not being party to the inner workings of the club I may be WAY OFF on my assessment of him. Reading his CV I personally was a little underwhelmed.

I can't put my finger on it Rising, call it a gut feeling which could be completely wrong and unfair on him. I also thought the interview he gave was good for season ticket sales, but in the long run massively dented his credibility among the fans.

Poor old Ralph has been dropped in at the deep end, not good for him or us!!!
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.[/p][/quote]Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.[/p][/quote]If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)[/p][/quote]Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee. At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces. The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.[/p][/quote]I hope we're not going to play. However, if we are, I also hope we do play hardball. I mean, it would be a poor bit of business if we're serious about progressing next season, and an even worse bit of business if the board and owner are asset-stripping.[/p][/quote]Exactly! In the long term we won't be able to keep every single player,but we can try to fleece these clubs and muck up their planning process as much as possible, which in the process might put off other clubs from launching any potential bids. I personally don't buy this whole asset-stripping line. IMO KL mucked up big time with the NC thing, but i believe that she does want to move the club forward. I'm very skeptical we have the right group running things to accomplish this. And I'm sure she wants to reign in spending as much as possible and i'm worried she may be taking soundings from Les Reed.[/p][/quote]I don't buy the asset stripping thing, either. I also don't know enough to blame Les Reed for it all (or anyone else for that matter). (Les Reed seems to be becoming the new Guly.) RK might be right when he says he's got a lot to learn (or something like that). I can only hope he's a very, very quick learner.[/p][/quote]I don't think blame for Poch & Lambert leaving can be apportioned to Les Reed. But from what I have read & been told about him I'm not sold on him. And he's was appointed by NC was he not? Not being party to the inner workings of the club I may be WAY OFF on my assessment of him. Reading his CV I personally was a little underwhelmed. I can't put my finger on it Rising, call it a gut feeling which could be completely wrong and unfair on him. I also thought the interview he gave was good for season ticket sales, but in the long run massively dented his credibility among the fans. Poor old Ralph has been dropped in at the deep end, not good for him or us!!! redandy10
  • Score: 3

10:33am Sun 1 Jun 14

NC Fan4Life says...

mickey01 wrote:
laudrop for me but benitez is a good shout but would only use us as a way of getting back to the premiership until the so called bigger clubs come calling in the future
Possibly, but his appointment would show the new boards ambition which is paramount at the moment. It would make the top clubs take us seriously.
Even at £4 or 5 m a year it not much to lift Saints profile and push on into Europe. Even if he left after a couple of seasons it would still be worth it for the increased stature he would have brought us, just as signing Kevin Keegan did at the time.

GO GET RAFA NOW !!
[quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: laudrop for me but benitez is a good shout but would only use us as a way of getting back to the premiership until the so called bigger clubs come calling in the future[/p][/quote]Possibly, but his appointment would show the new boards ambition which is paramount at the moment. It would make the top clubs take us seriously. Even at £4 or 5 m a year it not much to lift Saints profile and push on into Europe. Even if he left after a couple of seasons it would still be worth it for the increased stature he would have brought us, just as signing Kevin Keegan did at the time. GO GET RAFA NOW !! NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 4

10:34am Sun 1 Jun 14

jls217 says...

Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno.

Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little

Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.
Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno. Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in. jls217
  • Score: -3

10:36am Sun 1 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

costa gaz wrote:
THE12THMAN wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Benali76 wrote:
Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.
Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal
The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.
If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)
Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee.
At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces.
The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.
If he is on a long contract they are not quite holding all the aces are they.
Players and agents always hold all the aces, this is not 1975 with the likes of Brian Clough running clubs." You're going nowhere young man, now get those terraces swept"
Contracts can and will always be broken by players, but clubs are rarely able to break one.
Example: Ben Haim at pompey, knew he was not going to get 75k/wk anywhere else so as much as they tried to sell him, he kept saying no and carried on collecting his wage (sometimes )
It is extremely rare for a club to hang on to a player who wants to leave with out a massive incentive.
That's actually a pretty poor example if you think about it. It shows teams can't get rid of players who don't want to go, not that they can't keep those that they don't want to go.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.[/p][/quote]Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.[/p][/quote]If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)[/p][/quote]Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee. At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces. The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.[/p][/quote]If he is on a long contract they are not quite holding all the aces are they.[/p][/quote]Players and agents always hold all the aces, this is not 1975 with the likes of Brian Clough running clubs." You're going nowhere young man, now get those terraces swept" Contracts can and will always be broken by players, but clubs are rarely able to break one. Example: Ben Haim at pompey, knew he was not going to get 75k/wk anywhere else so as much as they tried to sell him, he kept saying no and carried on collecting his wage (sometimes ) It is extremely rare for a club to hang on to a player who wants to leave with out a massive incentive.[/p][/quote]That's actually a pretty poor example if you think about it. It shows teams can't get rid of players who don't want to go, not that they can't keep those that they don't want to go. Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

10:39am Sun 1 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Benali76 wrote:
Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.
Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal
The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.
If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)
Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee.
At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces.
The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.
I hope we're not going to play. However, if we are, I also hope we do play hardball. I mean, it would be a poor bit of business if we're serious about progressing next season, and an even worse bit of business if the board and owner are asset-stripping.
Exactly!
In the long term we won't be able to keep every single player,but we can try to fleece these clubs and muck up their planning process as much as possible, which in the process might put off other clubs from launching any potential bids.

I personally don't buy this whole asset-stripping line. IMO KL mucked up big time with the NC thing, but i believe that she does want to move the club forward. I'm very skeptical we have the right group running things to accomplish this. And I'm sure she wants to reign in spending as much as possible and i'm worried she may be taking soundings from Les Reed.
I don't buy the asset stripping thing, either. I also don't know enough to blame Les Reed for it all (or anyone else for that matter). (Les Reed seems to be becoming the new Guly.)

RK might be right when he says he's got a lot to learn (or something like that). I can only hope he's a very, very quick learner.
I don't think blame for Poch & Lambert leaving can be apportioned to Les Reed. But from what I have read & been told about him I'm not sold on him. And he's was appointed by NC was he not? Not being party to the inner workings of the club I may be WAY OFF on my assessment of him. Reading his CV I personally was a little underwhelmed.

I can't put my finger on it Rising, call it a gut feeling which could be completely wrong and unfair on him. I also thought the interview he gave was good for season ticket sales, but in the long run massively dented his credibility among the fans.

Poor old Ralph has been dropped in at the deep end, not good for him or us!!!
As I said I don't know enough to judge him, in which case my general disposition is to give people the benefit of the doubt.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.[/p][/quote]Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.[/p][/quote]If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)[/p][/quote]Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee. At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces. The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.[/p][/quote]I hope we're not going to play. However, if we are, I also hope we do play hardball. I mean, it would be a poor bit of business if we're serious about progressing next season, and an even worse bit of business if the board and owner are asset-stripping.[/p][/quote]Exactly! In the long term we won't be able to keep every single player,but we can try to fleece these clubs and muck up their planning process as much as possible, which in the process might put off other clubs from launching any potential bids. I personally don't buy this whole asset-stripping line. IMO KL mucked up big time with the NC thing, but i believe that she does want to move the club forward. I'm very skeptical we have the right group running things to accomplish this. And I'm sure she wants to reign in spending as much as possible and i'm worried she may be taking soundings from Les Reed.[/p][/quote]I don't buy the asset stripping thing, either. I also don't know enough to blame Les Reed for it all (or anyone else for that matter). (Les Reed seems to be becoming the new Guly.) RK might be right when he says he's got a lot to learn (or something like that). I can only hope he's a very, very quick learner.[/p][/quote]I don't think blame for Poch & Lambert leaving can be apportioned to Les Reed. But from what I have read & been told about him I'm not sold on him. And he's was appointed by NC was he not? Not being party to the inner workings of the club I may be WAY OFF on my assessment of him. Reading his CV I personally was a little underwhelmed. I can't put my finger on it Rising, call it a gut feeling which could be completely wrong and unfair on him. I also thought the interview he gave was good for season ticket sales, but in the long run massively dented his credibility among the fans. Poor old Ralph has been dropped in at the deep end, not good for him or us!!![/p][/quote]As I said I don't know enough to judge him, in which case my general disposition is to give people the benefit of the doubt. Rising_Son
  • Score: 3

10:47am Sun 1 Jun 14

historyless scum says...

More comedy 😃
More comedy 😃 historyless scum
  • Score: -8

10:50am Sun 1 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

jls217 wrote:
Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno.

Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little

Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.
If that's true, why would be selling now when, in all likelihood, prices will go up as we get closer to the new season? It would seem a really poor way to asset strip. The only way I can make sense of this is if we have a target and want to have money in hand to do that deal. But, even then, it would have to be someone very expensive for us to need to do that because I find it hard to believe that we have a serious liquidity problem.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno. Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.[/p][/quote]If that's true, why would be selling now when, in all likelihood, prices will go up as we get closer to the new season? It would seem a really poor way to asset strip. The only way I can make sense of this is if we have a target and want to have money in hand to do that deal. But, even then, it would have to be someone very expensive for us to need to do that because I find it hard to believe that we have a serious liquidity problem. Rising_Son
  • Score: 4

10:53am Sun 1 Jun 14

long memory says...

Benali76 wrote:
Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.
We should take the same stance as Liverpool did last year when Arsenal kept tormenting them for the signature of Saurez. Liverpool said,no,no,no,not for sale.This is exactly what we should be saying to them regarding AL,in other words tell them to p++s off,as £30 million is a paltry sum for such a brilliant player,and the scourers are just trying to sign him on the cheap,before the rest of the world sees what a great talent Adam is.
If Liverpool do offer £30 million and we accept,I still think we would have been totally shafted.
I do wish the Echo would take more of a supportive role in trying to support the Saints fans,instead of every headline being very negative,almost coming over as if they are enjoying stirring things up,come on echo,get on our side for once.
[quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.[/p][/quote]We should take the same stance as Liverpool did last year when Arsenal kept tormenting them for the signature of Saurez. Liverpool said,no,no,no,not for sale.This is exactly what we should be saying to them regarding AL,in other words tell them to p++s off,as £30 million is a paltry sum for such a brilliant player,and the scourers are just trying to sign him on the cheap,before the rest of the world sees what a great talent Adam is. If Liverpool do offer £30 million and we accept,I still think we would have been totally shafted. I do wish the Echo would take more of a supportive role in trying to support the Saints fans,instead of every headline being very negative,almost coming over as if they are enjoying stirring things up,come on echo,get on our side for once. long memory
  • Score: 11

10:56am Sun 1 Jun 14

Sammy2sheds says...

No the doomsday boys are still here
What exactly have the club done to hold out to pool?
You think he won't go? It's just a matter of how much.the board will wait until after the World Cup.the choice of manager will tell us everything about the clubs ambition.i want the club to prove me wrong,I want to end up with egg on my face but I just don't believe in les and Ralph.
We have a chairman that is learning his role,wtf he will get eaten alive.if they get Benitez or moyes I will be on here saying I believed in them all the time.fickle I know but that is my right as a football supporter.
No the doomsday boys are still here What exactly have the club done to hold out to pool? You think he won't go? It's just a matter of how much.the board will wait until after the World Cup.the choice of manager will tell us everything about the clubs ambition.i want the club to prove me wrong,I want to end up with egg on my face but I just don't believe in les and Ralph. We have a chairman that is learning his role,wtf he will get eaten alive.if they get Benitez or moyes I will be on here saying I believed in them all the time.fickle I know but that is my right as a football supporter. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 0

10:59am Sun 1 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

jls217 wrote:
Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno.

Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little

Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.
Do you realise just how annoying your "I know something, but I am not telling" posts are? Pointless and a total waste of space, do you actually think we care about this rubbish? You obviously are just trolling to get a response, you have got one, now run away and play with your iPad.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno. Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.[/p][/quote]Do you realise just how annoying your "I know something, but I am not telling" posts are? Pointless and a total waste of space, do you actually think we care about this rubbish? You obviously are just trolling to get a response, you have got one, now run away and play with your iPad. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 4

11:08am Sun 1 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno.

Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little

Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.
Do you realise just how annoying your "I know something, but I am not telling" posts are? Pointless and a total waste of space, do you actually think we care about this rubbish? You obviously are just trolling to get a response, you have got one, now run away and play with your iPad.
Calm down. It doesn't suit you.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno. Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.[/p][/quote]Do you realise just how annoying your "I know something, but I am not telling" posts are? Pointless and a total waste of space, do you actually think we care about this rubbish? You obviously are just trolling to get a response, you have got one, now run away and play with your iPad.[/p][/quote]Calm down. It doesn't suit you. Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

11:08am Sun 1 Jun 14

jls217 says...

Rising_Son wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno.

Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little

Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.
If that's true, why would be selling now when, in all likelihood, prices will go up as we get closer to the new season? It would seem a really poor way to asset strip. The only way I can make sense of this is if we have a target and want to have money in hand to do that deal. But, even then, it would have to be someone very expensive for us to need to do that because I find it hard to believe that we have a serious liquidity problem.
Agree with your reasoning - we must have a sizeable amount available already.

I can only pass on what the agents are saying - surprising as it sounds they sometimes talk with forked tongues but these blokes don't have an interest directly and one was quite categoric --------- is discussing personal terms with -------- --------- this weekend and the deal will be wrapped up quickly.

Agents are in a frenzy of acitivity agitating for moves for 9 players I can only remember some of the times as I was not in a position to take notes. One has already gone. There was a name on the list that surprised me but the others are all ones you would expect them to circle and no surprises. The quote was that all nine WILL be gone with another one being done this weekend (not SRL)

I'm bewildered by it all and am hoping against hope that only a tiny part of it is allowed to transpire - but I wouldn't hold my breath.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno. Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.[/p][/quote]If that's true, why would be selling now when, in all likelihood, prices will go up as we get closer to the new season? It would seem a really poor way to asset strip. The only way I can make sense of this is if we have a target and want to have money in hand to do that deal. But, even then, it would have to be someone very expensive for us to need to do that because I find it hard to believe that we have a serious liquidity problem.[/p][/quote]Agree with your reasoning - we must have a sizeable amount available already. I can only pass on what the agents are saying - surprising as it sounds they sometimes talk with forked tongues but these blokes don't have an interest directly and one was quite categoric --------- is discussing personal terms with -------- --------- this weekend and the deal will be wrapped up quickly. Agents are in a frenzy of acitivity agitating for moves for 9 players I can only remember some of the times as I was not in a position to take notes. One has already gone. There was a name on the list that surprised me but the others are all ones you would expect them to circle and no surprises. The quote was that all nine WILL be gone with another one being done this weekend (not SRL) I'm bewildered by it all and am hoping against hope that only a tiny part of it is allowed to transpire - but I wouldn't hold my breath. jls217
  • Score: -3

11:09am Sun 1 Jun 14

NC Fan4Life says...

The top clubs treat Saints as second class and think they can dictate to us. The new board have an opportunity of changing all that and raise our profile. Sign Rafa Benitez and it would the same as signing Kevin Keegan did at the time.

Rafa is high profile and is proven, he would repay his high salary in no time. He would convince all the players to stay and attract the top strikers we now need. This would really show the new boards ambition and give us all a major lift and upset the top clubs in the process.

Katharina, Ralph & Les GO GET RAFA NOW !!
The top clubs treat Saints as second class and think they can dictate to us. The new board have an opportunity of changing all that and raise our profile. Sign Rafa Benitez and it would the same as signing Kevin Keegan did at the time. Rafa is high profile and is proven, he would repay his high salary in no time. He would convince all the players to stay and attract the top strikers we now need. This would really show the new boards ambition and give us all a major lift and upset the top clubs in the process. Katharina, Ralph & Les GO GET RAFA NOW !! NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 5

11:09am Sun 1 Jun 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Has Saints answer been "no" or "come back with a better offer"?
I think both
That would be unnecessarily verbose.
Yes,and saying far too much as well.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: Has Saints answer been "no" or "come back with a better offer"?[/p][/quote]I think both[/p][/quote]That would be unnecessarily verbose.[/p][/quote]Yes,and saying far too much as well. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

11:11am Sun 1 Jun 14

El Santo says...

Sadly, Lallana will go and Luke will go. But we have to make sure that it will be for a shameful amount of money. Liverpool are about to sell Suarez to Real Madrid: We want the same price for Lallana. And Luke won't go for less than £40M. After that, we can start re-building our team and they (LFC, MAnU) will know that, if they want something, they will have to pay a weakening price, something that leaves them with no more optios to buy other pleayers that season. Not just peanuts. They are our competitors!!!
Sadly, Lallana will go and Luke will go. But we have to make sure that it will be for a shameful amount of money. Liverpool are about to sell Suarez to Real Madrid: We want the same price for Lallana. And Luke won't go for less than £40M. After that, we can start re-building our team and they (LFC, MAnU) will know that, if they want something, they will have to pay a weakening price, something that leaves them with no more optios to buy other pleayers that season. Not just peanuts. They are our competitors!!! El Santo
  • Score: 4

11:11am Sun 1 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

jls217 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno.

Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little

Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.
If that's true, why would be selling now when, in all likelihood, prices will go up as we get closer to the new season? It would seem a really poor way to asset strip. The only way I can make sense of this is if we have a target and want to have money in hand to do that deal. But, even then, it would have to be someone very expensive for us to need to do that because I find it hard to believe that we have a serious liquidity problem.
Agree with your reasoning - we must have a sizeable amount available already.

I can only pass on what the agents are saying - surprising as it sounds they sometimes talk with forked tongues but these blokes don't have an interest directly and one was quite categoric --------- is discussing personal terms with -------- --------- this weekend and the deal will be wrapped up quickly.

Agents are in a frenzy of acitivity agitating for moves for 9 players I can only remember some of the times as I was not in a position to take notes. One has already gone. There was a name on the list that surprised me but the others are all ones you would expect them to circle and no surprises. The quote was that all nine WILL be gone with another one being done this weekend (not SRL)

I'm bewildered by it all and am hoping against hope that only a tiny part of it is allowed to transpire - but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Are you hearing anything about players coming in? If these agents are as forthcoming as you say, then surely they must be letting something slip.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno. Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.[/p][/quote]If that's true, why would be selling now when, in all likelihood, prices will go up as we get closer to the new season? It would seem a really poor way to asset strip. The only way I can make sense of this is if we have a target and want to have money in hand to do that deal. But, even then, it would have to be someone very expensive for us to need to do that because I find it hard to believe that we have a serious liquidity problem.[/p][/quote]Agree with your reasoning - we must have a sizeable amount available already. I can only pass on what the agents are saying - surprising as it sounds they sometimes talk with forked tongues but these blokes don't have an interest directly and one was quite categoric --------- is discussing personal terms with -------- --------- this weekend and the deal will be wrapped up quickly. Agents are in a frenzy of acitivity agitating for moves for 9 players I can only remember some of the times as I was not in a position to take notes. One has already gone. There was a name on the list that surprised me but the others are all ones you would expect them to circle and no surprises. The quote was that all nine WILL be gone with another one being done this weekend (not SRL) I'm bewildered by it all and am hoping against hope that only a tiny part of it is allowed to transpire - but I wouldn't hold my breath.[/p][/quote]Are you hearing anything about players coming in? If these agents are as forthcoming as you say, then surely they must be letting something slip. Rising_Son
  • Score: 3

11:14am Sun 1 Jun 14

circa 66 saint says...

Yes we can hold players to their contracts, will the players still do their best, l would think so they will not want their international career's jeopardised by not giving their best. So why do clubs appear to sell so easily, well if we keep Adam to his contract he will probably not re sign at the end so his value to Saints reduces over the 4 years he has remaining and will be able to walk for free. So by signing a 5 year contract last year ensured his value was high and if he did go we will be compensated.
If Adam stays to see out his contract he would effectively cost us approximately his value now say £30m spread over the 4 years remaining.
Question is how much less will we get if we sold him in 2 years time , my guess is his value won't change too much.
Yes we can hold players to their contracts, will the players still do their best, l would think so they will not want their international career's jeopardised by not giving their best. So why do clubs appear to sell so easily, well if we keep Adam to his contract he will probably not re sign at the end so his value to Saints reduces over the 4 years he has remaining and will be able to walk for free. So by signing a 5 year contract last year ensured his value was high and if he did go we will be compensated. If Adam stays to see out his contract he would effectively cost us approximately his value now say £30m spread over the 4 years remaining. Question is how much less will we get if we sold him in 2 years time , my guess is his value won't change too much. circa 66 saint
  • Score: 1

11:19am Sun 1 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno.

Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little

Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.
Do you realise just how annoying your "I know something, but I am not telling" posts are? Pointless and a total waste of space, do you actually think we care about this rubbish? You obviously are just trolling to get a response, you have got one, now run away and play with your iPad.
Calm down. It doesn't suit you.
I know, but doesn't it get up your nose too? I have seen a list of Managers that might get the job, only one or maybe none of them will get the job. I have seen a long list of available players, we may get one or more of them, or maybe none? there are lots of good out of work trainers out there, we may get one or two of them, then again none of them may be picked. One thing for certain is the Christmas Day is on the 25th December this year, unless the World really is going to end.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno. Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.[/p][/quote]Do you realise just how annoying your "I know something, but I am not telling" posts are? Pointless and a total waste of space, do you actually think we care about this rubbish? You obviously are just trolling to get a response, you have got one, now run away and play with your iPad.[/p][/quote]Calm down. It doesn't suit you.[/p][/quote]I know, but doesn't it get up your nose too? I have seen a list of Managers that might get the job, only one or maybe none of them will get the job. I have seen a long list of available players, we may get one or more of them, or maybe none? there are lots of good out of work trainers out there, we may get one or two of them, then again none of them may be picked. One thing for certain is the Christmas Day is on the 25th December this year, unless the World really is going to end. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

11:26am Sun 1 Jun 14

THE12THMAN says...

historyless scum wrote:
More comedy 😃
CLOWN.
[quote][p][bold]historyless scum[/bold] wrote: More comedy 😃[/p][/quote]CLOWN. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 2

11:26am Sun 1 Jun 14

THE12THMAN says...

historyless scum wrote:
More comedy 😃
CLOWN.
[quote][p][bold]historyless scum[/bold] wrote: More comedy 😃[/p][/quote]CLOWN. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 2

11:31am Sun 1 Jun 14

Costa Baz says...

@ jls217
The nine players, whose names you won't name. Could they be the same nine players that were named in a very badly written Mirror article, yesterday, that said we needed to sell all of them owing to our financial problems?
Just asking, because if his awareness of our financial situation is any indication as to the quality of his "in the know" knowledge, then he knows jack.

Regarding the ongoing sagas of Shaw and Lallana, rejecting an offer does not have to mean we are negotiating or haggling for a better deal. It means that the offer to buy has been declined. End of.

I agree with those that say "make them request a transfer". Let the players, that are subject to all this attention show the fans that THEY are rejecting The Saints in favour of another club.

Would rejecting their transfer request mean that they wouldn't try next season?
Maybe, maybe not, but a strong manager making them turn out for the U21 team, putting international call ups at risk and having team mates having a go at them for affecting their win bonuses, may sort that out.
Plus, are they the type of person that would be happy wearing the mantle of "trouble causer"?

I would definitely call their bluff.
@ jls217 The nine players, whose names you won't name. Could they be the same nine players that were named in a very badly written Mirror article, yesterday, that said we needed to sell all of them owing to our financial problems? Just asking, because if his awareness of our financial situation is any indication as to the quality of his "in the know" knowledge, then he knows jack. Regarding the ongoing sagas of Shaw and Lallana, rejecting an offer does not have to mean we are negotiating or haggling for a better deal. It means that the offer to buy has been declined. End of. I agree with those that say "make them request a transfer". Let the players, that are subject to all this attention show the fans that THEY are rejecting The Saints in favour of another club. Would rejecting their transfer request mean that they wouldn't try next season? Maybe, maybe not, but a strong manager making them turn out for the U21 team, putting international call ups at risk and having team mates having a go at them for affecting their win bonuses, may sort that out. Plus, are they the type of person that would be happy wearing the mantle of "trouble causer"? I would definitely call their bluff. Costa Baz
  • Score: 8

11:33am Sun 1 Jun 14

costa gaz says...

Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
THE12THMAN wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Benali76 wrote:
Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.
Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal
The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.
If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)
Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee.
At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces.
The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.
If he is on a long contract they are not quite holding all the aces are they.
Players and agents always hold all the aces, this is not 1975 with the likes of Brian Clough running clubs." You're going nowhere young man, now get those terraces swept"
Contracts can and will always be broken by players, but clubs are rarely able to break one.
Example: Ben Haim at pompey, knew he was not going to get 75k/wk anywhere else so as much as they tried to sell him, he kept saying no and carried on collecting his wage (sometimes )
It is extremely rare for a club to hang on to a player who wants to leave with out a massive incentive.
That's actually a pretty poor example if you think about it. It shows teams can't get rid of players who don't want to go, not that they can't keep those that they don't want to go.
Sorry RS it was an example of how one-sided contracts are in favour of the player.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.[/p][/quote]Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.[/p][/quote]If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)[/p][/quote]Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee. At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces. The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.[/p][/quote]If he is on a long contract they are not quite holding all the aces are they.[/p][/quote]Players and agents always hold all the aces, this is not 1975 with the likes of Brian Clough running clubs." You're going nowhere young man, now get those terraces swept" Contracts can and will always be broken by players, but clubs are rarely able to break one. Example: Ben Haim at pompey, knew he was not going to get 75k/wk anywhere else so as much as they tried to sell him, he kept saying no and carried on collecting his wage (sometimes ) It is extremely rare for a club to hang on to a player who wants to leave with out a massive incentive.[/p][/quote]That's actually a pretty poor example if you think about it. It shows teams can't get rid of players who don't want to go, not that they can't keep those that they don't want to go.[/p][/quote]Sorry RS it was an example of how one-sided contracts are in favour of the player. costa gaz
  • Score: 2

11:35am Sun 1 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno.

Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little

Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.
Do you realise just how annoying your "I know something, but I am not telling" posts are? Pointless and a total waste of space, do you actually think we care about this rubbish? You obviously are just trolling to get a response, you have got one, now run away and play with your iPad.
Calm down. It doesn't suit you.
I know, but doesn't it get up your nose too? I have seen a list of Managers that might get the job, only one or maybe none of them will get the job. I have seen a long list of available players, we may get one or more of them, or maybe none? there are lots of good out of work trainers out there, we may get one or two of them, then again none of them may be picked. One thing for certain is the Christmas Day is on the 25th December this year, unless the World really is going to end.
It reminds me of those very dark days when I used to come on here all hours of the day and night waiting for news and worrying about whether we were going bankrupt or whether someone was coming in to buy us, the agony of the Pinnacle negotiations, and then ... the good news came.

Hoping for a repeat.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno. Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.[/p][/quote]Do you realise just how annoying your "I know something, but I am not telling" posts are? Pointless and a total waste of space, do you actually think we care about this rubbish? You obviously are just trolling to get a response, you have got one, now run away and play with your iPad.[/p][/quote]Calm down. It doesn't suit you.[/p][/quote]I know, but doesn't it get up your nose too? I have seen a list of Managers that might get the job, only one or maybe none of them will get the job. I have seen a long list of available players, we may get one or more of them, or maybe none? there are lots of good out of work trainers out there, we may get one or two of them, then again none of them may be picked. One thing for certain is the Christmas Day is on the 25th December this year, unless the World really is going to end.[/p][/quote]It reminds me of those very dark days when I used to come on here all hours of the day and night waiting for news and worrying about whether we were going bankrupt or whether someone was coming in to buy us, the agony of the Pinnacle negotiations, and then ... the good news came. Hoping for a repeat. Rising_Son
  • Score: 4

11:35am Sun 1 Jun 14

Positively4thStreet says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno.

Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little

Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.
Do you realise just how annoying your "I know something, but I am not telling" posts are? Pointless and a total waste of space, do you actually think we care about this rubbish? You obviously are just trolling to get a response, you have got one, now run away and play with your iPad.
Calm down. It doesn't suit you.
I know, but doesn't it get up your nose too? I have seen a list of Managers that might get the job, only one or maybe none of them will get the job. I have seen a long list of available players, we may get one or more of them, or maybe none? there are lots of good out of work trainers out there, we may get one or two of them, then again none of them may be picked. One thing for certain is the Christmas Day is on the 25th December this year, unless the World really is going to end.
Maybe we should go for Nostradamus at Saint Remy then?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno. Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.[/p][/quote]Do you realise just how annoying your "I know something, but I am not telling" posts are? Pointless and a total waste of space, do you actually think we care about this rubbish? You obviously are just trolling to get a response, you have got one, now run away and play with your iPad.[/p][/quote]Calm down. It doesn't suit you.[/p][/quote]I know, but doesn't it get up your nose too? I have seen a list of Managers that might get the job, only one or maybe none of them will get the job. I have seen a long list of available players, we may get one or more of them, or maybe none? there are lots of good out of work trainers out there, we may get one or two of them, then again none of them may be picked. One thing for certain is the Christmas Day is on the 25th December this year, unless the World really is going to end.[/p][/quote]Maybe we should go for Nostradamus at Saint Remy then? Positively4thStreet
  • Score: -1

11:41am Sun 1 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno.

Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little

Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.
Do you realise just how annoying your "I know something, but I am not telling" posts are? Pointless and a total waste of space, do you actually think we care about this rubbish? You obviously are just trolling to get a response, you have got one, now run away and play with your iPad.
Calm down. It doesn't suit you.
I know, but doesn't it get up your nose too? I have seen a list of Managers that might get the job, only one or maybe none of them will get the job. I have seen a long list of available players, we may get one or more of them, or maybe none? there are lots of good out of work trainers out there, we may get one or two of them, then again none of them may be picked. One thing for certain is the Christmas Day is on the 25th December this year, unless the World really is going to end.
Maybe we should go for Nostradamus at Saint Remy then?
I see no future in that!
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno. Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.[/p][/quote]Do you realise just how annoying your "I know something, but I am not telling" posts are? Pointless and a total waste of space, do you actually think we care about this rubbish? You obviously are just trolling to get a response, you have got one, now run away and play with your iPad.[/p][/quote]Calm down. It doesn't suit you.[/p][/quote]I know, but doesn't it get up your nose too? I have seen a list of Managers that might get the job, only one or maybe none of them will get the job. I have seen a long list of available players, we may get one or more of them, or maybe none? there are lots of good out of work trainers out there, we may get one or two of them, then again none of them may be picked. One thing for certain is the Christmas Day is on the 25th December this year, unless the World really is going to end.[/p][/quote]Maybe we should go for Nostradamus at Saint Remy then?[/p][/quote]I see no future in that! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

11:42am Sun 1 Jun 14

el caballo santos101 says...

historyless scum wrote:
More comedy 😃
have you been looking at poopeys books again and list of payers? that is absolute comedy.
will be even funnier next season when your fighting relegation again, and 2 decent teams have been promoted so its going to be harder for you even more so with andy awful being manager!
comedy pure comedy!
[quote][p][bold]historyless scum[/bold] wrote: More comedy 😃[/p][/quote]have you been looking at poopeys books again and list of payers? that is absolute comedy. will be even funnier next season when your fighting relegation again, and 2 decent teams have been promoted so its going to be harder for you even more so with andy awful being manager! comedy pure comedy! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 1

11:46am Sun 1 Jun 14

Positively4thStreet says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno.

Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little

Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.
Do you realise just how annoying your "I know something, but I am not telling" posts are? Pointless and a total waste of space, do you actually think we care about this rubbish? You obviously are just trolling to get a response, you have got one, now run away and play with your iPad.
Calm down. It doesn't suit you.
I know, but doesn't it get up your nose too? I have seen a list of Managers that might get the job, only one or maybe none of them will get the job. I have seen a long list of available players, we may get one or more of them, or maybe none? there are lots of good out of work trainers out there, we may get one or two of them, then again none of them may be picked. One thing for certain is the Christmas Day is on the 25th December this year, unless the World really is going to end.
Maybe we should go for Nostradamus at Saint Remy then?
I see no future in that!
Predictable.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno. Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.[/p][/quote]Do you realise just how annoying your "I know something, but I am not telling" posts are? Pointless and a total waste of space, do you actually think we care about this rubbish? You obviously are just trolling to get a response, you have got one, now run away and play with your iPad.[/p][/quote]Calm down. It doesn't suit you.[/p][/quote]I know, but doesn't it get up your nose too? I have seen a list of Managers that might get the job, only one or maybe none of them will get the job. I have seen a long list of available players, we may get one or more of them, or maybe none? there are lots of good out of work trainers out there, we may get one or two of them, then again none of them may be picked. One thing for certain is the Christmas Day is on the 25th December this year, unless the World really is going to end.[/p][/quote]Maybe we should go for Nostradamus at Saint Remy then?[/p][/quote]I see no future in that![/p][/quote]Predictable. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: -1

11:48am Sun 1 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno.

Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little

Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.
Do you realise just how annoying your "I know something, but I am not telling" posts are? Pointless and a total waste of space, do you actually think we care about this rubbish? You obviously are just trolling to get a response, you have got one, now run away and play with your iPad.
Calm down. It doesn't suit you.
I know, but doesn't it get up your nose too? I have seen a list of Managers that might get the job, only one or maybe none of them will get the job. I have seen a long list of available players, we may get one or more of them, or maybe none? there are lots of good out of work trainers out there, we may get one or two of them, then again none of them may be picked. One thing for certain is the Christmas Day is on the 25th December this year, unless the World really is going to end.
Maybe we should go for Nostradamus at Saint Remy then?
That got me thinking a bit, and I realised that reading the Nostradamus prophecies as quoted by those that know about these things, nothing that he predicted was ever positive and good, rather like the doomsayers on here! I am sure he got some things right of a positive happenings but you never get to hear about them. Odd that.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno. Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.[/p][/quote]Do you realise just how annoying your "I know something, but I am not telling" posts are? Pointless and a total waste of space, do you actually think we care about this rubbish? You obviously are just trolling to get a response, you have got one, now run away and play with your iPad.[/p][/quote]Calm down. It doesn't suit you.[/p][/quote]I know, but doesn't it get up your nose too? I have seen a list of Managers that might get the job, only one or maybe none of them will get the job. I have seen a long list of available players, we may get one or more of them, or maybe none? there are lots of good out of work trainers out there, we may get one or two of them, then again none of them may be picked. One thing for certain is the Christmas Day is on the 25th December this year, unless the World really is going to end.[/p][/quote]Maybe we should go for Nostradamus at Saint Remy then?[/p][/quote]That got me thinking a bit, and I realised that reading the Nostradamus prophecies as quoted by those that know about these things, nothing that he predicted was ever positive and good, rather like the doomsayers on here! I am sure he got some things right of a positive happenings but you never get to hear about them. Odd that. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -2

11:49am Sun 1 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno.

Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little

Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.
Do you realise just how annoying your "I know something, but I am not telling" posts are? Pointless and a total waste of space, do you actually think we care about this rubbish? You obviously are just trolling to get a response, you have got one, now run away and play with your iPad.
Calm down. It doesn't suit you.
I know, but doesn't it get up your nose too? I have seen a list of Managers that might get the job, only one or maybe none of them will get the job. I have seen a long list of available players, we may get one or more of them, or maybe none? there are lots of good out of work trainers out there, we may get one or two of them, then again none of them may be picked. One thing for certain is the Christmas Day is on the 25th December this year, unless the World really is going to end.
Maybe we should go for Nostradamus at Saint Remy then?
I see no future in that!
Predictable.
I knew you were going to say that....
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno. Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.[/p][/quote]Do you realise just how annoying your "I know something, but I am not telling" posts are? Pointless and a total waste of space, do you actually think we care about this rubbish? You obviously are just trolling to get a response, you have got one, now run away and play with your iPad.[/p][/quote]Calm down. It doesn't suit you.[/p][/quote]I know, but doesn't it get up your nose too? I have seen a list of Managers that might get the job, only one or maybe none of them will get the job. I have seen a long list of available players, we may get one or more of them, or maybe none? there are lots of good out of work trainers out there, we may get one or two of them, then again none of them may be picked. One thing for certain is the Christmas Day is on the 25th December this year, unless the World really is going to end.[/p][/quote]Maybe we should go for Nostradamus at Saint Remy then?[/p][/quote]I see no future in that![/p][/quote]Predictable.[/p][/quote]I knew you were going to say that.... OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

11:54am Sun 1 Jun 14

Positively4thStreet says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno.

Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little

Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.
Do you realise just how annoying your "I know something, but I am not telling" posts are? Pointless and a total waste of space, do you actually think we care about this rubbish? You obviously are just trolling to get a response, you have got one, now run away and play with your iPad.
Calm down. It doesn't suit you.
I know, but doesn't it get up your nose too? I have seen a list of Managers that might get the job, only one or maybe none of them will get the job. I have seen a long list of available players, we may get one or more of them, or maybe none? there are lots of good out of work trainers out there, we may get one or two of them, then again none of them may be picked. One thing for certain is the Christmas Day is on the 25th December this year, unless the World really is going to end.
Maybe we should go for Nostradamus at Saint Remy then?
I see no future in that!
Predictable.
I knew you were going to say that....
I know you did.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno. Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.[/p][/quote]Do you realise just how annoying your "I know something, but I am not telling" posts are? Pointless and a total waste of space, do you actually think we care about this rubbish? You obviously are just trolling to get a response, you have got one, now run away and play with your iPad.[/p][/quote]Calm down. It doesn't suit you.[/p][/quote]I know, but doesn't it get up your nose too? I have seen a list of Managers that might get the job, only one or maybe none of them will get the job. I have seen a long list of available players, we may get one or more of them, or maybe none? there are lots of good out of work trainers out there, we may get one or two of them, then again none of them may be picked. One thing for certain is the Christmas Day is on the 25th December this year, unless the World really is going to end.[/p][/quote]Maybe we should go for Nostradamus at Saint Remy then?[/p][/quote]I see no future in that![/p][/quote]Predictable.[/p][/quote]I knew you were going to say that....[/p][/quote]I know you did. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

11:56am Sun 1 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno.

Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little

Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.
Do you realise just how annoying your "I know something, but I am not telling" posts are? Pointless and a total waste of space, do you actually think we care about this rubbish? You obviously are just trolling to get a response, you have got one, now run away and play with your iPad.
Calm down. It doesn't suit you.
I know, but doesn't it get up your nose too? I have seen a list of Managers that might get the job, only one or maybe none of them will get the job. I have seen a long list of available players, we may get one or more of them, or maybe none? there are lots of good out of work trainers out there, we may get one or two of them, then again none of them may be picked. One thing for certain is the Christmas Day is on the 25th December this year, unless the World really is going to end.
Maybe we should go for Nostradamus at Saint Remy then?
I see no future in that!
Predictable.
I knew you were going to say that....
I know you did.
I should have seen that coming.......
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno. Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.[/p][/quote]Do you realise just how annoying your "I know something, but I am not telling" posts are? Pointless and a total waste of space, do you actually think we care about this rubbish? You obviously are just trolling to get a response, you have got one, now run away and play with your iPad.[/p][/quote]Calm down. It doesn't suit you.[/p][/quote]I know, but doesn't it get up your nose too? I have seen a list of Managers that might get the job, only one or maybe none of them will get the job. I have seen a long list of available players, we may get one or more of them, or maybe none? there are lots of good out of work trainers out there, we may get one or two of them, then again none of them may be picked. One thing for certain is the Christmas Day is on the 25th December this year, unless the World really is going to end.[/p][/quote]Maybe we should go for Nostradamus at Saint Remy then?[/p][/quote]I see no future in that![/p][/quote]Predictable.[/p][/quote]I knew you were going to say that....[/p][/quote]I know you did.[/p][/quote]I should have seen that coming....... OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

11:58am Sun 1 Jun 14

Mush On The Beach says...

Costa Baz wrote:
@ jls217
The nine players, whose names you won't name. Could they be the same nine players that were named in a very badly written Mirror article, yesterday, that said we needed to sell all of them owing to our financial problems?
Just asking, because if his awareness of our financial situation is any indication as to the quality of his "in the know" knowledge, then he knows jack.

Regarding the ongoing sagas of Shaw and Lallana, rejecting an offer does not have to mean we are negotiating or haggling for a better deal. It means that the offer to buy has been declined. End of.

I agree with those that say "make them request a transfer". Let the players, that are subject to all this attention show the fans that THEY are rejecting The Saints in favour of another club.

Would rejecting their transfer request mean that they wouldn't try next season?
Maybe, maybe not, but a strong manager making them turn out for the U21 team, putting international call ups at risk and having team mates having a go at them for affecting their win bonuses, may sort that out.
Plus, are they the type of person that would be happy wearing the mantle of "trouble causer"?

I would definitely call their bluff.
No deals until Mr Koeman says so .... oooops I wasn’t meant to tell you that it’s a secret.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: @ jls217 The nine players, whose names you won't name. Could they be the same nine players that were named in a very badly written Mirror article, yesterday, that said we needed to sell all of them owing to our financial problems? Just asking, because if his awareness of our financial situation is any indication as to the quality of his "in the know" knowledge, then he knows jack. Regarding the ongoing sagas of Shaw and Lallana, rejecting an offer does not have to mean we are negotiating or haggling for a better deal. It means that the offer to buy has been declined. End of. I agree with those that say "make them request a transfer". Let the players, that are subject to all this attention show the fans that THEY are rejecting The Saints in favour of another club. Would rejecting their transfer request mean that they wouldn't try next season? Maybe, maybe not, but a strong manager making them turn out for the U21 team, putting international call ups at risk and having team mates having a go at them for affecting their win bonuses, may sort that out. Plus, are they the type of person that would be happy wearing the mantle of "trouble causer"? I would definitely call their bluff.[/p][/quote]No deals until Mr Koeman says so .... oooops I wasn’t meant to tell you that it’s a secret. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 0

11:59am Sun 1 Jun 14

Positively4thStreet says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno.

Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little

Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.
Do you realise just how annoying your "I know something, but I am not telling" posts are? Pointless and a total waste of space, do you actually think we care about this rubbish? You obviously are just trolling to get a response, you have got one, now run away and play with your iPad.
Calm down. It doesn't suit you.
I know, but doesn't it get up your nose too? I have seen a list of Managers that might get the job, only one or maybe none of them will get the job. I have seen a long list of available players, we may get one or more of them, or maybe none? there are lots of good out of work trainers out there, we may get one or two of them, then again none of them may be picked. One thing for certain is the Christmas Day is on the 25th December this year, unless the World really is going to end.
Maybe we should go for Nostradamus at Saint Remy then?
I see no future in that!
Predictable.
I knew you were going to say that....
I know you did.
I should have seen that coming.......
Its all in the past now.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno. Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.[/p][/quote]Do you realise just how annoying your "I know something, but I am not telling" posts are? Pointless and a total waste of space, do you actually think we care about this rubbish? You obviously are just trolling to get a response, you have got one, now run away and play with your iPad.[/p][/quote]Calm down. It doesn't suit you.[/p][/quote]I know, but doesn't it get up your nose too? I have seen a list of Managers that might get the job, only one or maybe none of them will get the job. I have seen a long list of available players, we may get one or more of them, or maybe none? there are lots of good out of work trainers out there, we may get one or two of them, then again none of them may be picked. One thing for certain is the Christmas Day is on the 25th December this year, unless the World really is going to end.[/p][/quote]Maybe we should go for Nostradamus at Saint Remy then?[/p][/quote]I see no future in that![/p][/quote]Predictable.[/p][/quote]I knew you were going to say that....[/p][/quote]I know you did.[/p][/quote]I should have seen that coming.......[/p][/quote]Its all in the past now. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

12:01pm Sun 1 Jun 14

Mush On The Beach says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
historyless scum wrote:
More comedy 😃
have you been looking at poopeys books again and list of payers? that is absolute comedy.
will be even funnier next season when your fighting relegation again, and 2 decent teams have been promoted so its going to be harder for you even more so with andy awful being manager!
comedy pure comedy!
I once had a trial at Portsmouth ...... I pleaded guilty!
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]historyless scum[/bold] wrote: More comedy 😃[/p][/quote]have you been looking at poopeys books again and list of payers? that is absolute comedy. will be even funnier next season when your fighting relegation again, and 2 decent teams have been promoted so its going to be harder for you even more so with andy awful being manager! comedy pure comedy![/p][/quote]I once had a trial at Portsmouth ...... I pleaded guilty! Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 3

12:31pm Sun 1 Jun 14

Saint. says...

DE how much is those scousers and manks slipping you to keep this regurgitating news in the spot light day in day out and in doing so add to any unnecessary pressure!

Question your local club is? Question to your individual reporters, which team do you actually support. Their first or second team?

This story like many others is not new, and in fact you have already covered it so many time before!

Point one Liverpool have said final offer! So let see if they are true words spoken. As scousers and as they lie as an art, probably not!

Point two, why should Liverpool or any other club tell us what to do? It is time for this new board, as did NC did and tell them what to do!! Think small DE, you are small!

Point three Liverpool are not only to trying to get a better price. They are just trying to grab England players so history shows they are from their club in the history books! Like Lambert will be now! What ever Saints have done for them individually!! ( this take into account their individual skill and talent they have / developed!) Take note New Board that to sell a club in many markets, you have to have England players in our team...Southampton FC! China for example will only be interested in clubs with England international players! If you have none, they don't recognise you and will not have any desire to! Simple and possibly stupid, but true? Our only following from China are students who study in Southampton! New board the market places out there look to England players, and Lallana success out their would bring millions upon millions into the club! It will not only be his silky skills he already showing, but if he lets rip a blistering goal on the WORLD STAGE then money and attentions would be on Southampton FC simple as!

Point four, any high calibre manager coming in, will without doubt and one hundred percent would block anymore potential sales!!! Think about it. Why would any high calibre manager come in an say yeah don't need / like Lallana, and yes Shaw is ten a dozen! Of cause he will not, and why would he start a job looking to replace these straight away! It does not make one ounce of sense!,

Point five, why DE have Southampton FC new board need to test any team? Liverpool has said final, then let them look elsewhere and keep to their word's / fret. The new board is not here to look after Liverpool or any other club! They here to look after Southampton FC and take Southampton FC into Europe and above! They can't fail to see that it is no decisions to make, and that to archive success they have to keep our best players for Southampton FC and our new high calibre manager to do this!!
DE how much is those scousers and manks slipping you to keep this regurgitating news in the spot light day in day out and in doing so add to any unnecessary pressure! Question your local club is? Question to your individual reporters, which team do you actually support. Their first or second team? This story like many others is not new, and in fact you have already covered it so many time before! Point one Liverpool have said final offer! So let see if they are true words spoken. As scousers and as they lie as an art, probably not! Point two, why should Liverpool or any other club tell us what to do? It is time for this new board, as did NC did and tell them what to do!! Think small DE, you are small! Point three Liverpool are not only to trying to get a better price. They are just trying to grab England players so history shows they are from their club in the history books! Like Lambert will be now! What ever Saints have done for them individually!! ( this take into account their individual skill and talent they have / developed!) Take note New Board that to sell a club in many markets, you have to have England players in our team...Southampton FC! China for example will only be interested in clubs with England international players! If you have none, they don't recognise you and will not have any desire to! Simple and possibly stupid, but true? Our only following from China are students who study in Southampton! New board the market places out there look to England players, and Lallana success out their would bring millions upon millions into the club! It will not only be his silky skills he already showing, but if he lets rip a blistering goal on the WORLD STAGE then money and attentions would be on Southampton FC simple as! Point four, any high calibre manager coming in, will without doubt and one hundred percent would block anymore potential sales!!! Think about it. Why would any high calibre manager come in an say yeah don't need / like Lallana, and yes Shaw is ten a dozen! Of cause he will not, and why would he start a job looking to replace these straight away! It does not make one ounce of sense!, Point five, why DE have Southampton FC new board need to test any team? Liverpool has said final, then let them look elsewhere and keep to their word's / fret. The new board is not here to look after Liverpool or any other club! They here to look after Southampton FC and take Southampton FC into Europe and above! They can't fail to see that it is no decisions to make, and that to archive success they have to keep our best players for Southampton FC and our new high calibre manager to do this!! Saint.
  • Score: 14

12:34pm Sun 1 Jun 14

Shrewdsaint says...

Don't believe a thing until it happens. The media didn't know about Rickie's move til just before it happened. It was sickening listening to Radio 5 yesterday lunchtime with their 'must be terrible if you're a Saints fan' jibber jabber, the only person to stand up for Saints was Steve poopy Claridge, which just seemed wrong but hey ho.
Don't believe a thing until it happens. The media didn't know about Rickie's move til just before it happened. It was sickening listening to Radio 5 yesterday lunchtime with their 'must be terrible if you're a Saints fan' jibber jabber, the only person to stand up for Saints was Steve poopy Claridge, which just seemed wrong but hey ho. Shrewdsaint
  • Score: 3

12:52pm Sun 1 Jun 14

Chipster says...

Liverpuddle now linked with Fabregas, if so another reason for AL to stay?
Liverpuddle now linked with Fabregas, if so another reason for AL to stay? Chipster
  • Score: 4

1:19pm Sun 1 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
THE12THMAN wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Benali76 wrote:
Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.
Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal
The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.
If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)
Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee.
At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces.
The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.
If he is on a long contract they are not quite holding all the aces are they.
Players and agents always hold all the aces, this is not 1975 with the likes of Brian Clough running clubs." You're going nowhere young man, now get those terraces swept"
Contracts can and will always be broken by players, but clubs are rarely able to break one.
Example: Ben Haim at pompey, knew he was not going to get 75k/wk anywhere else so as much as they tried to sell him, he kept saying no and carried on collecting his wage (sometimes )
It is extremely rare for a club to hang on to a player who wants to leave with out a massive incentive.
That's actually a pretty poor example if you think about it. It shows teams can't get rid of players who don't want to go, not that they can't keep those that they don't want to go.
Sorry RS it was an example of how one-sided contracts are in favour of the player.
Very few players break contracts though. In most cases, the teams just seem to give in when players want to go. They don't have to.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.[/p][/quote]Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.[/p][/quote]If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)[/p][/quote]Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee. At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces. The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.[/p][/quote]If he is on a long contract they are not quite holding all the aces are they.[/p][/quote]Players and agents always hold all the aces, this is not 1975 with the likes of Brian Clough running clubs." You're going nowhere young man, now get those terraces swept" Contracts can and will always be broken by players, but clubs are rarely able to break one. Example: Ben Haim at pompey, knew he was not going to get 75k/wk anywhere else so as much as they tried to sell him, he kept saying no and carried on collecting his wage (sometimes ) It is extremely rare for a club to hang on to a player who wants to leave with out a massive incentive.[/p][/quote]That's actually a pretty poor example if you think about it. It shows teams can't get rid of players who don't want to go, not that they can't keep those that they don't want to go.[/p][/quote]Sorry RS it was an example of how one-sided contracts are in favour of the player.[/p][/quote]Very few players break contracts though. In most cases, the teams just seem to give in when players want to go. They don't have to. Rising_Son
  • Score: 2

1:22pm Sun 1 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno.

Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little

Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.
Do you realise just how annoying your "I know something, but I am not telling" posts are? Pointless and a total waste of space, do you actually think we care about this rubbish? You obviously are just trolling to get a response, you have got one, now run away and play with your iPad.
Calm down. It doesn't suit you.
I know, but doesn't it get up your nose too? I have seen a list of Managers that might get the job, only one or maybe none of them will get the job. I have seen a long list of available players, we may get one or more of them, or maybe none? there are lots of good out of work trainers out there, we may get one or two of them, then again none of them may be picked. One thing for certain is the Christmas Day is on the 25th December this year, unless the World really is going to end.
Maybe we should go for Nostradamus at Saint Remy then?
I see no future in that!
Predictable.
I knew you were going to say that....
I know you did.
I should have seen that coming.......
Its all in the past now.
As is the future of the skates
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno. Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.[/p][/quote]Do you realise just how annoying your "I know something, but I am not telling" posts are? Pointless and a total waste of space, do you actually think we care about this rubbish? You obviously are just trolling to get a response, you have got one, now run away and play with your iPad.[/p][/quote]Calm down. It doesn't suit you.[/p][/quote]I know, but doesn't it get up your nose too? I have seen a list of Managers that might get the job, only one or maybe none of them will get the job. I have seen a long list of available players, we may get one or more of them, or maybe none? there are lots of good out of work trainers out there, we may get one or two of them, then again none of them may be picked. One thing for certain is the Christmas Day is on the 25th December this year, unless the World really is going to end.[/p][/quote]Maybe we should go for Nostradamus at Saint Remy then?[/p][/quote]I see no future in that![/p][/quote]Predictable.[/p][/quote]I knew you were going to say that....[/p][/quote]I know you did.[/p][/quote]I should have seen that coming.......[/p][/quote]Its all in the past now.[/p][/quote]As is the future of the skates OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

1:27pm Sun 1 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

Osprey,Nice to see back to your usual self. Not everyone will agree though, I bet.
Osprey,Nice to see back to your usual self. Not everyone will agree though, I bet. Rising_Son
  • Score: 5

1:27pm Sun 1 Jun 14

jls217 says...

Costa Baz wrote:
@ jls217
The nine players, whose names you won't name. Could they be the same nine players that were named in a very badly written Mirror article, yesterday, that said we needed to sell all of them owing to our financial problems?
Just asking, because if his awareness of our financial situation is any indication as to the quality of his "in the know" knowledge, then he knows jack.

Regarding the ongoing sagas of Shaw and Lallana, rejecting an offer does not have to mean we are negotiating or haggling for a better deal. It means that the offer to buy has been declined. End of.

I agree with those that say "make them request a transfer". Let the players, that are subject to all this attention show the fans that THEY are rejecting The Saints in favour of another club.

Would rejecting their transfer request mean that they wouldn't try next season?
Maybe, maybe not, but a strong manager making them turn out for the U21 team, putting international call ups at risk and having team mates having a go at them for affecting their win bonuses, may sort that out.
Plus, are they the type of person that would be happy wearing the mantle of "trouble causer"?

I would definitely call their bluff.
Doubt it mate. These are the sort of people and this one in particular who make the gossip happen they don't go to the papers gossip columns.

He seemed to think it would happen because this is what the agents wanted, he knows the football world and he knows Saints are quite well off financially.

I don't like all this I know someone who's related who cleans the car of ... stuff and when I hear it I usually just glaze over and either don't listen or don't read it. I don't blame anyone else for feeling the same way.

Just for once I get info and not from any club source so there is no hidden agenda. I can't read their minds so can't say 100% gospel but if I were a betting man I'd be prepared to put a quid or two on his knowledge/assessment
. Like I said I only got to ask a couple of questions as spent most of the time just listening.

Let me say again I can only hope Saints can say no to most of it because it is devastating news, or at least work a suitable player/money exchange to our advantage. I've been ultra positive about the situation up till yesterday and not so sure any more.

If we could hear a player or two say quite categorically, "I'm staying at Saints and don't want to go anywhere" would be very re-assuring but has anyone done that yet? That concerns me.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: @ jls217 The nine players, whose names you won't name. Could they be the same nine players that were named in a very badly written Mirror article, yesterday, that said we needed to sell all of them owing to our financial problems? Just asking, because if his awareness of our financial situation is any indication as to the quality of his "in the know" knowledge, then he knows jack. Regarding the ongoing sagas of Shaw and Lallana, rejecting an offer does not have to mean we are negotiating or haggling for a better deal. It means that the offer to buy has been declined. End of. I agree with those that say "make them request a transfer". Let the players, that are subject to all this attention show the fans that THEY are rejecting The Saints in favour of another club. Would rejecting their transfer request mean that they wouldn't try next season? Maybe, maybe not, but a strong manager making them turn out for the U21 team, putting international call ups at risk and having team mates having a go at them for affecting their win bonuses, may sort that out. Plus, are they the type of person that would be happy wearing the mantle of "trouble causer"? I would definitely call their bluff.[/p][/quote]Doubt it mate. These are the sort of people and this one in particular who make the gossip happen they don't go to the papers gossip columns. He seemed to think it would happen because this is what the agents wanted, he knows the football world and he knows Saints are quite well off financially. I don't like all this I know someone who's related who cleans the car of ... stuff and when I hear it I usually just glaze over and either don't listen or don't read it. I don't blame anyone else for feeling the same way. Just for once I get info and not from any club source so there is no hidden agenda. I can't read their minds so can't say 100% gospel but if I were a betting man I'd be prepared to put a quid or two on his knowledge/assessment . Like I said I only got to ask a couple of questions as spent most of the time just listening. Let me say again I can only hope Saints can say no to most of it because it is devastating news, or at least work a suitable player/money exchange to our advantage. I've been ultra positive about the situation up till yesterday and not so sure any more. If we could hear a player or two say quite categorically, "I'm staying at Saints and don't want to go anywhere" would be very re-assuring but has anyone done that yet? That concerns me. jls217
  • Score: -3

1:28pm Sun 1 Jun 14

mack chinnon says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
@ jls217
The nine players, whose names you won't name. Could they be the same nine players that were named in a very badly written Mirror article, yesterday, that said we needed to sell all of them owing to our financial problems?
Just asking, because if his awareness of our financial situation is any indication as to the quality of his "in the know" knowledge, then he knows jack.

Regarding the ongoing sagas of Shaw and Lallana, rejecting an offer does not have to mean we are negotiating or haggling for a better deal. It means that the offer to buy has been declined. End of.

I agree with those that say "make them request a transfer". Let the players, that are subject to all this attention show the fans that THEY are rejecting The Saints in favour of another club.

Would rejecting their transfer request mean that they wouldn't try next season?
Maybe, maybe not, but a strong manager making them turn out for the U21 team, putting international call ups at risk and having team mates having a go at them for affecting their win bonuses, may sort that out.
Plus, are they the type of person that would be happy wearing the mantle of "trouble causer"?

I would definitely call their bluff.
No deals until Mr Koeman says so .... oooops I wasn’t meant to tell you that it’s a secret.
Your a betting man Mush. What sort of odds do you reckon you could get on Roy Hodgson turning up here after the world cup. Mizz Liebherr seems to like him.
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: @ jls217 The nine players, whose names you won't name. Could they be the same nine players that were named in a very badly written Mirror article, yesterday, that said we needed to sell all of them owing to our financial problems? Just asking, because if his awareness of our financial situation is any indication as to the quality of his "in the know" knowledge, then he knows jack. Regarding the ongoing sagas of Shaw and Lallana, rejecting an offer does not have to mean we are negotiating or haggling for a better deal. It means that the offer to buy has been declined. End of. I agree with those that say "make them request a transfer". Let the players, that are subject to all this attention show the fans that THEY are rejecting The Saints in favour of another club. Would rejecting their transfer request mean that they wouldn't try next season? Maybe, maybe not, but a strong manager making them turn out for the U21 team, putting international call ups at risk and having team mates having a go at them for affecting their win bonuses, may sort that out. Plus, are they the type of person that would be happy wearing the mantle of "trouble causer"? I would definitely call their bluff.[/p][/quote]No deals until Mr Koeman says so .... oooops I wasn’t meant to tell you that it’s a secret.[/p][/quote]Your a betting man Mush. What sort of odds do you reckon you could get on Roy Hodgson turning up here after the world cup. Mizz Liebherr seems to like him. mack chinnon
  • Score: 0

1:40pm Sun 1 Jun 14

jls217 says...

Gents - please - I understand how you all feel when someone posts what I became privy to mainly because I have always felt the same way.

For the first time I am in contact with these people. I don't have any relations, friends etc close to the decision makers. I was, privvy to this - that's all.

I don't want to believe it any more than you do.

I'm beginning to wish I'd said nothing but was so frustrated and wound up when I got home yesterday I decided, foolishly it seems to pre-warn you.

Please just forget I said it if that makes you feel better. Gloat if it all comes to nothing - I'm ready for that because nobody posting here would be happier than me to lose only SRL and one/two more for big money.

In the unlikely event I'm in the prescence of these people again I won't pass anything on if it's going to cause turmoil - life really is too short.
Gents - please - I understand how you all feel when someone posts what I became privy to mainly because I have always felt the same way. For the first time I am in contact with these people. I don't have any relations, friends etc close to the decision makers. I was, privvy to this - that's all. I don't want to believe it any more than you do. I'm beginning to wish I'd said nothing but was so frustrated and wound up when I got home yesterday I decided, foolishly it seems to pre-warn you. Please just forget I said it if that makes you feel better. Gloat if it all comes to nothing - I'm ready for that because nobody posting here would be happier than me to lose only SRL and one/two more for big money. In the unlikely event I'm in the prescence of these people again I won't pass anything on if it's going to cause turmoil - life really is too short. jls217
  • Score: -12

1:40pm Sun 1 Jun 14

oldsaintsfan says...

If AL leaves in the next few days I think we will have to come to the concluion that the owner/board are numpties when it comes to busness decisions. Letting MoPo go was unfortunate. It sent all the wrong messages to the playing staff. Maybe it could not be avoided but in my view negotiations should have started much earlier over a new contract and if these were not going well an alternaive manager at least identified. It would be dificult to imagine NC allowing the events of the last few weeks to happen in such a half baked manner. Letting RL go to LFC - again based on the evidence available - I thnk the club should have put up more of a fight to keep a key talisman (again particulrly because of what it says to the rest of the squad). The club needs now to rapidly appoint a manager who the key squad members will wish to play for and who can quickly rebuild the damage done. At the moment (either rightly or wrongly) it appears to be open season with regard to picking off the best of the clubs talent.
If AL leaves in the next few days I think we will have to come to the concluion that the owner/board are numpties when it comes to busness decisions. Letting MoPo go was unfortunate. It sent all the wrong messages to the playing staff. Maybe it could not be avoided but in my view negotiations should have started much earlier over a new contract and if these were not going well an alternaive manager at least identified. It would be dificult to imagine NC allowing the events of the last few weeks to happen in such a half baked manner. Letting RL go to LFC - again based on the evidence available - I thnk the club should have put up more of a fight to keep a key talisman (again particulrly because of what it says to the rest of the squad). The club needs now to rapidly appoint a manager who the key squad members will wish to play for and who can quickly rebuild the damage done. At the moment (either rightly or wrongly) it appears to be open season with regard to picking off the best of the clubs talent. oldsaintsfan
  • Score: 1

1:45pm Sun 1 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Benali76 wrote:
Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.
Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal
The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.
If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)
Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee.
At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces.
The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.
I hope we're not going to play. However, if we are, I also hope we do play hardball. I mean, it would be a poor bit of business if we're serious about progressing next season, and an even worse bit of business if the board and owner are asset-stripping.
Exactly!
In the long term we won't be able to keep every single player,but we can try to fleece these clubs and muck up their planning process as much as possible, which in the process might put off other clubs from launching any potential bids.

I personally don't buy this whole asset-stripping line. IMO KL mucked up big time with the NC thing, but i believe that she does want to move the club forward. I'm very skeptical we have the right group running things to accomplish this. And I'm sure she wants to reign in spending as much as possible and i'm worried she may be taking soundings from Les Reed.
That's exactly my take too. I think KL reigned in the spend on pushing to the next level hence NC moving on and then MoPo. But I don't think she's up for stripping....

However, the loss of NC and his vision and the undoubtedly talented MoPo coupled with Rickie going means there is less desire to hang around amongst our important players. Unfortunately if they don't think the club is going to push to the next level in the near future they will see their ambitions being fulfilled elsewhere.

My concern is the quality and experience of the board we now have and their ability to fend off attacks particularly if the players start muttering about moving on. A new quality manager is perhaps our only chance of keeping them. Perversely a delay in appointing might work in our favour as the board has the opportunity to quite rightly say 'sorry lads but we cannot and will not make any transfer decisions until we have a manger in place.' Although that goes against us on transfers in.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.[/p][/quote]Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.[/p][/quote]If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)[/p][/quote]Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee. At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces. The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.[/p][/quote]I hope we're not going to play. However, if we are, I also hope we do play hardball. I mean, it would be a poor bit of business if we're serious about progressing next season, and an even worse bit of business if the board and owner are asset-stripping.[/p][/quote]Exactly! In the long term we won't be able to keep every single player,but we can try to fleece these clubs and muck up their planning process as much as possible, which in the process might put off other clubs from launching any potential bids. I personally don't buy this whole asset-stripping line. IMO KL mucked up big time with the NC thing, but i believe that she does want to move the club forward. I'm very skeptical we have the right group running things to accomplish this. And I'm sure she wants to reign in spending as much as possible and i'm worried she may be taking soundings from Les Reed.[/p][/quote]That's exactly my take too. I think KL reigned in the spend on pushing to the next level hence NC moving on and then MoPo. But I don't think she's up for stripping.... However, the loss of NC and his vision and the undoubtedly talented MoPo coupled with Rickie going means there is less desire to hang around amongst our important players. Unfortunately if they don't think the club is going to push to the next level in the near future they will see their ambitions being fulfilled elsewhere. My concern is the quality and experience of the board we now have and their ability to fend off attacks particularly if the players start muttering about moving on. A new quality manager is perhaps our only chance of keeping them. Perversely a delay in appointing might work in our favour as the board has the opportunity to quite rightly say 'sorry lads but we cannot and will not make any transfer decisions until we have a manger in place.' Although that goes against us on transfers in. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 2

1:46pm Sun 1 Jun 14

Steve_N says...

Who the hell do Liverpool think they are, issuing us with an ultimatum. Freddie needs to tell them in no uncertain terms to BU@@ER OFF!!!!!!!!! Adam is a professional and should be prepared to accept that we neither want or need to sell him (or anybody else for that matter) and get on with his job playing for Saints, for which he is I am sure well rewarded.
On the subject of Luke, I just read somewhere else that Utd could offer Hernandez as part of any deal. How about him + £30 million? (ha ha) Don't want to see Luke go, but would give a decent sum to buy a replacement and we'd have a decent quick striker to play alongside JRod when he's fit again.
Now that's all sorted all we need is to appoint Benitez or Koeman pretty sharpish.
COYS
Who the hell do Liverpool think they are, issuing us with an ultimatum. Freddie needs to tell them in no uncertain terms to BU@@ER OFF!!!!!!!!! Adam is a professional and should be prepared to accept that we neither want or need to sell him (or anybody else for that matter) and get on with his job playing for Saints, for which he is I am sure well rewarded. On the subject of Luke, I just read somewhere else that Utd could offer Hernandez as part of any deal. How about him + £30 million? (ha ha) Don't want to see Luke go, but would give a decent sum to buy a replacement and we'd have a decent quick striker to play alongside JRod when he's fit again. Now that's all sorted all we need is to appoint Benitez or Koeman pretty sharpish. COYS Steve_N
  • Score: 5

1:47pm Sun 1 Jun 14

up saints says...

all is talk of shaw llalana and about 6 others leaving why dosn't someone bid for dani osvaldo
all is talk of shaw llalana and about 6 others leaving why dosn't someone bid for dani osvaldo up saints
  • Score: 5

1:58pm Sun 1 Jun 14

THE12THMAN says...

jls217 wrote:
Gents - please - I understand how you all feel when someone posts what I became privy to mainly because I have always felt the same way.

For the first time I am in contact with these people. I don't have any relations, friends etc close to the decision makers. I was, privvy to this - that's all.

I don't want to believe it any more than you do.

I'm beginning to wish I'd said nothing but was so frustrated and wound up when I got home yesterday I decided, foolishly it seems to pre-warn you.

Please just forget I said it if that makes you feel better. Gloat if it all comes to nothing - I'm ready for that because nobody posting here would be happier than me to lose only SRL and one/two more for big money.

In the unlikely event I'm in the prescence of these people again I won't pass anything on if it's going to cause turmoil - life really is too short.
Drivel.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Gents - please - I understand how you all feel when someone posts what I became privy to mainly because I have always felt the same way. For the first time I am in contact with these people. I don't have any relations, friends etc close to the decision makers. I was, privvy to this - that's all. I don't want to believe it any more than you do. I'm beginning to wish I'd said nothing but was so frustrated and wound up when I got home yesterday I decided, foolishly it seems to pre-warn you. Please just forget I said it if that makes you feel better. Gloat if it all comes to nothing - I'm ready for that because nobody posting here would be happier than me to lose only SRL and one/two more for big money. In the unlikely event I'm in the prescence of these people again I won't pass anything on if it's going to cause turmoil - life really is too short.[/p][/quote]Drivel. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 7

2:01pm Sun 1 Jun 14

jls217 says...

THE12THMAN wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Gents - please - I understand how you all feel when someone posts what I became privy to mainly because I have always felt the same way.

For the first time I am in contact with these people. I don't have any relations, friends etc close to the decision makers. I was, privvy to this - that's all.

I don't want to believe it any more than you do.

I'm beginning to wish I'd said nothing but was so frustrated and wound up when I got home yesterday I decided, foolishly it seems to pre-warn you.

Please just forget I said it if that makes you feel better. Gloat if it all comes to nothing - I'm ready for that because nobody posting here would be happier than me to lose only SRL and one/two more for big money.

In the unlikely event I'm in the prescence of these people again I won't pass anything on if it's going to cause turmoil - life really is too short.
Drivel.
Whatever.
[quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Gents - please - I understand how you all feel when someone posts what I became privy to mainly because I have always felt the same way. For the first time I am in contact with these people. I don't have any relations, friends etc close to the decision makers. I was, privvy to this - that's all. I don't want to believe it any more than you do. I'm beginning to wish I'd said nothing but was so frustrated and wound up when I got home yesterday I decided, foolishly it seems to pre-warn you. Please just forget I said it if that makes you feel better. Gloat if it all comes to nothing - I'm ready for that because nobody posting here would be happier than me to lose only SRL and one/two more for big money. In the unlikely event I'm in the prescence of these people again I won't pass anything on if it's going to cause turmoil - life really is too short.[/p][/quote]Drivel.[/p][/quote]Whatever. jls217
  • Score: -6

2:06pm Sun 1 Jun 14

J7junctionseven says...

historyless scum wrote:
More comedy 😃
Yeah everything about you skunts is a great laugh....child
[quote][p][bold]historyless scum[/bold] wrote: More comedy 😃[/p][/quote]Yeah everything about you skunts is a great laugh....child J7junctionseven
  • Score: 5

2:08pm Sun 1 Jun 14

THE12THMAN says...

jls217 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno.

Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little

Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.
If that's true, why would be selling now when, in all likelihood, prices will go up as we get closer to the new season? It would seem a really poor way to asset strip. The only way I can make sense of this is if we have a target and want to have money in hand to do that deal. But, even then, it would have to be someone very expensive for us to need to do that because I find it hard to believe that we have a serious liquidity problem.
Agree with your reasoning - we must have a sizeable amount available already.

I can only pass on what the agents are saying - surprising as it sounds they sometimes talk with forked tongues but these blokes don't have an interest directly and one was quite categoric --------- is discussing personal terms with -------- --------- this weekend and the deal will be wrapped up quickly.

Agents are in a frenzy of acitivity agitating for moves for 9 players I can only remember some of the times as I was not in a position to take notes. One has already gone. There was a name on the list that surprised me but the others are all ones you would expect them to circle and no surprises. The quote was that all nine WILL be gone with another one being done this weekend (not SRL)

I'm bewildered by it all and am hoping against hope that only a tiny part of it is allowed to transpire - but I wouldn't hold my breath.
I might be wrong but it sounds like you don't really know anything.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno. Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.[/p][/quote]If that's true, why would be selling now when, in all likelihood, prices will go up as we get closer to the new season? It would seem a really poor way to asset strip. The only way I can make sense of this is if we have a target and want to have money in hand to do that deal. But, even then, it would have to be someone very expensive for us to need to do that because I find it hard to believe that we have a serious liquidity problem.[/p][/quote]Agree with your reasoning - we must have a sizeable amount available already. I can only pass on what the agents are saying - surprising as it sounds they sometimes talk with forked tongues but these blokes don't have an interest directly and one was quite categoric --------- is discussing personal terms with -------- --------- this weekend and the deal will be wrapped up quickly. Agents are in a frenzy of acitivity agitating for moves for 9 players I can only remember some of the times as I was not in a position to take notes. One has already gone. There was a name on the list that surprised me but the others are all ones you would expect them to circle and no surprises. The quote was that all nine WILL be gone with another one being done this weekend (not SRL) I'm bewildered by it all and am hoping against hope that only a tiny part of it is allowed to transpire - but I wouldn't hold my breath.[/p][/quote]I might be wrong but it sounds like you don't really know anything. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 10

2:16pm Sun 1 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

jls217 wrote:
Gents - please - I understand how you all feel when someone posts what I became privy to mainly because I have always felt the same way.

For the first time I am in contact with these people. I don't have any relations, friends etc close to the decision makers. I was, privvy to this - that's all.

I don't want to believe it any more than you do.

I'm beginning to wish I'd said nothing but was so frustrated and wound up when I got home yesterday I decided, foolishly it seems to pre-warn you.

Please just forget I said it if that makes you feel better. Gloat if it all comes to nothing - I'm ready for that because nobody posting here would be happier than me to lose only SRL and one/two more for big money.

In the unlikely event I'm in the prescence of these people again I won't pass anything on if it's going to cause turmoil - life really is too short.
I understand you not wanting to publicly name your source but why don't you say which player and which club?
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Gents - please - I understand how you all feel when someone posts what I became privy to mainly because I have always felt the same way. For the first time I am in contact with these people. I don't have any relations, friends etc close to the decision makers. I was, privvy to this - that's all. I don't want to believe it any more than you do. I'm beginning to wish I'd said nothing but was so frustrated and wound up when I got home yesterday I decided, foolishly it seems to pre-warn you. Please just forget I said it if that makes you feel better. Gloat if it all comes to nothing - I'm ready for that because nobody posting here would be happier than me to lose only SRL and one/two more for big money. In the unlikely event I'm in the prescence of these people again I won't pass anything on if it's going to cause turmoil - life really is too short.[/p][/quote]I understand you not wanting to publicly name your source but why don't you say which player and which club? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 9

2:18pm Sun 1 Jun 14

Mush On The Beach says...

mack chinnon wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
@ jls217
The nine players, whose names you won't name. Could they be the same nine players that were named in a very badly written Mirror article, yesterday, that said we needed to sell all of them owing to our financial problems?
Just asking, because if his awareness of our financial situation is any indication as to the quality of his "in the know" knowledge, then he knows jack.

Regarding the ongoing sagas of Shaw and Lallana, rejecting an offer does not have to mean we are negotiating or haggling for a better deal. It means that the offer to buy has been declined. End of.

I agree with those that say "make them request a transfer". Let the players, that are subject to all this attention show the fans that THEY are rejecting The Saints in favour of another club.

Would rejecting their transfer request mean that they wouldn't try next season?
Maybe, maybe not, but a strong manager making them turn out for the U21 team, putting international call ups at risk and having team mates having a go at them for affecting their win bonuses, may sort that out.
Plus, are they the type of person that would be happy wearing the mantle of "trouble causer"?

I would definitely call their bluff.
No deals until Mr Koeman says so .... oooops I wasn’t meant to tell you that it’s a secret.
Your a betting man Mush. What sort of odds do you reckon you could get on Roy Hodgson turning up here after the world cup. Mizz Liebherr seems to like him.
Save your money on that one Mack, he would be a rank outsider at around 200/1 for a club of our calibre and prestige. He is more suited to dross middle of the road prem clubs like West Brom and Liverpool.
[quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: @ jls217 The nine players, whose names you won't name. Could they be the same nine players that were named in a very badly written Mirror article, yesterday, that said we needed to sell all of them owing to our financial problems? Just asking, because if his awareness of our financial situation is any indication as to the quality of his "in the know" knowledge, then he knows jack. Regarding the ongoing sagas of Shaw and Lallana, rejecting an offer does not have to mean we are negotiating or haggling for a better deal. It means that the offer to buy has been declined. End of. I agree with those that say "make them request a transfer". Let the players, that are subject to all this attention show the fans that THEY are rejecting The Saints in favour of another club. Would rejecting their transfer request mean that they wouldn't try next season? Maybe, maybe not, but a strong manager making them turn out for the U21 team, putting international call ups at risk and having team mates having a go at them for affecting their win bonuses, may sort that out. Plus, are they the type of person that would be happy wearing the mantle of "trouble causer"? I would definitely call their bluff.[/p][/quote]No deals until Mr Koeman says so .... oooops I wasn’t meant to tell you that it’s a secret.[/p][/quote]Your a betting man Mush. What sort of odds do you reckon you could get on Roy Hodgson turning up here after the world cup. Mizz Liebherr seems to like him.[/p][/quote]Save your money on that one Mack, he would be a rank outsider at around 200/1 for a club of our calibre and prestige. He is more suited to dross middle of the road prem clubs like West Brom and Liverpool. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 0

2:21pm Sun 1 Jun 14

ItchenBridger says...

Phil Brown seen pontificating near the Cowherds Inn!
Phil Brown seen pontificating near the Cowherds Inn! ItchenBridger
  • Score: 2

2:28pm Sun 1 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

jls217 wrote:
Gents - please - I understand how you all feel when someone posts what I became privy to mainly because I have always felt the same way.

For the first time I am in contact with these people. I don't have any relations, friends etc close to the decision makers. I was, privvy to this - that's all.

I don't want to believe it any more than you do.

I'm beginning to wish I'd said nothing but was so frustrated and wound up when I got home yesterday I decided, foolishly it seems to pre-warn you.

Please just forget I said it if that makes you feel better. Gloat if it all comes to nothing - I'm ready for that because nobody posting here would be happier than me to lose only SRL and one/two more for big money.

In the unlikely event I'm in the prescence of these people again I won't pass anything on if it's going to cause turmoil - life really is too short.
Sorry to sound critical, but please post facts or nothing at all, we are under enough stress as it is. Silly "I know something messages" are worthless, we will know any bad news in good time when it appears on the OS. Then I will believe it.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Gents - please - I understand how you all feel when someone posts what I became privy to mainly because I have always felt the same way. For the first time I am in contact with these people. I don't have any relations, friends etc close to the decision makers. I was, privvy to this - that's all. I don't want to believe it any more than you do. I'm beginning to wish I'd said nothing but was so frustrated and wound up when I got home yesterday I decided, foolishly it seems to pre-warn you. Please just forget I said it if that makes you feel better. Gloat if it all comes to nothing - I'm ready for that because nobody posting here would be happier than me to lose only SRL and one/two more for big money. In the unlikely event I'm in the prescence of these people again I won't pass anything on if it's going to cause turmoil - life really is too short.[/p][/quote]Sorry to sound critical, but please post facts or nothing at all, we are under enough stress as it is. Silly "I know something messages" are worthless, we will know any bad news in good time when it appears on the OS. Then I will believe it. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 4

2:29pm Sun 1 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

ItchenBridger wrote:
Phil Brown seen pontificating near the Cowherds Inn!
Just topping up his tan.
[quote][p][bold]ItchenBridger[/bold] wrote: Phil Brown seen pontificating near the Cowherds Inn![/p][/quote]Just topping up his tan. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

2:34pm Sun 1 Jun 14

THE12THMAN says...

up saints wrote:
all is talk of shaw llalana and about 6 others leaving why dosn't someone bid for dani osvaldo
I hope i am wrong but i think we might be stuck with him, unless MO PO fancies signing him on for the suds.
[quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: all is talk of shaw llalana and about 6 others leaving why dosn't someone bid for dani osvaldo[/p][/quote]I hope i am wrong but i think we might be stuck with him, unless MO PO fancies signing him on for the suds. THE12THMAN
  • Score: -2

2:36pm Sun 1 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Osprey,Nice to see back to your usual self. Not everyone will agree though, I bet.
I say it as I see it, I am not always right though, I weigh up the evidence and offer an opinion based on facts as they are portrayed, my opinion is only valid if the original information is correct.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: Osprey,Nice to see back to your usual self. Not everyone will agree though, I bet.[/p][/quote]I say it as I see it, I am not always right though, I weigh up the evidence and offer an opinion based on facts as they are portrayed, my opinion is only valid if the original information is correct. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

2:36pm Sun 1 Jun 14

saintmicky says...

I'm a bit slow off the mark but fully in agreement with CostaBaz.
Players under contract asking for transfer requests should be exposed by the club, refused and made to honor the contract.
A year of sulking is too much for any one, six weeks max playing with the U21's with no bonus and a career going down the pan will adjust the thinking of any professional.
If its not the players that want to leave and the board that wants to cash in they just as well tell it how it is, we have all renewed anyway; professional fans like those at St. Mary's don't sulk long either!!

STID
I'm a bit slow off the mark but fully in agreement with CostaBaz. Players under contract asking for transfer requests should be exposed by the club, refused and made to honor the contract. A year of sulking is too much for any one, six weeks max playing with the U21's with no bonus and a career going down the pan will adjust the thinking of any professional. If its not the players that want to leave and the board that wants to cash in they just as well tell it how it is, we have all renewed anyway; professional fans like those at St. Mary's don't sulk long either!! STID saintmicky
  • Score: 5

2:38pm Sun 1 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

mack chinnon wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
@ jls217
The nine players, whose names you won't name. Could they be the same nine players that were named in a very badly written Mirror article, yesterday, that said we needed to sell all of them owing to our financial problems?
Just asking, because if his awareness of our financial situation is any indication as to the quality of his "in the know" knowledge, then he knows jack.

Regarding the ongoing sagas of Shaw and Lallana, rejecting an offer does not have to mean we are negotiating or haggling for a better deal. It means that the offer to buy has been declined. End of.

I agree with those that say "make them request a transfer". Let the players, that are subject to all this attention show the fans that THEY are rejecting The Saints in favour of another club.

Would rejecting their transfer request mean that they wouldn't try next season?
Maybe, maybe not, but a strong manager making them turn out for the U21 team, putting international call ups at risk and having team mates having a go at them for affecting their win bonuses, may sort that out.
Plus, are they the type of person that would be happy wearing the mantle of "trouble causer"?

I would definitely call their bluff.
No deals until Mr Koeman says so .... oooops I wasn’t meant to tell you that it’s a secret.
Your a betting man Mush. What sort of odds do you reckon you could get on Roy Hodgson turning up here after the world cup. Mizz Liebherr seems to like him.
He may have done if his England picks were still with us, as they are all being cast far and wide I doubt if the attraction is still present.
[quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: @ jls217 The nine players, whose names you won't name. Could they be the same nine players that were named in a very badly written Mirror article, yesterday, that said we needed to sell all of them owing to our financial problems? Just asking, because if his awareness of our financial situation is any indication as to the quality of his "in the know" knowledge, then he knows jack. Regarding the ongoing sagas of Shaw and Lallana, rejecting an offer does not have to mean we are negotiating or haggling for a better deal. It means that the offer to buy has been declined. End of. I agree with those that say "make them request a transfer". Let the players, that are subject to all this attention show the fans that THEY are rejecting The Saints in favour of another club. Would rejecting their transfer request mean that they wouldn't try next season? Maybe, maybe not, but a strong manager making them turn out for the U21 team, putting international call ups at risk and having team mates having a go at them for affecting their win bonuses, may sort that out. Plus, are they the type of person that would be happy wearing the mantle of "trouble causer"? I would definitely call their bluff.[/p][/quote]No deals until Mr Koeman says so .... oooops I wasn’t meant to tell you that it’s a secret.[/p][/quote]Your a betting man Mush. What sort of odds do you reckon you could get on Roy Hodgson turning up here after the world cup. Mizz Liebherr seems to like him.[/p][/quote]He may have done if his England picks were still with us, as they are all being cast far and wide I doubt if the attraction is still present. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

2:53pm Sun 1 Jun 14

redandy10 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Benali76 wrote:
Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.
Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal
The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.
If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)
Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee.
At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces.
The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.
I hope we're not going to play. However, if we are, I also hope we do play hardball. I mean, it would be a poor bit of business if we're serious about progressing next season, and an even worse bit of business if the board and owner are asset-stripping.
Exactly!
In the long term we won't be able to keep every single player,but we can try to fleece these clubs and muck up their planning process as much as possible, which in the process might put off other clubs from launching any potential bids.

I personally don't buy this whole asset-stripping line. IMO KL mucked up big time with the NC thing, but i believe that she does want to move the club forward. I'm very skeptical we have the right group running things to accomplish this. And I'm sure she wants to reign in spending as much as possible and i'm worried she may be taking soundings from Les Reed.
That's exactly my take too. I think KL reigned in the spend on pushing to the next level hence NC moving on and then MoPo. But I don't think she's up for stripping....

However, the loss of NC and his vision and the undoubtedly talented MoPo coupled with Rickie going means there is less desire to hang around amongst our important players. Unfortunately if they don't think the club is going to push to the next level in the near future they will see their ambitions being fulfilled elsewhere.

My concern is the quality and experience of the board we now have and their ability to fend off attacks particularly if the players start muttering about moving on. A new quality manager is perhaps our only chance of keeping them. Perversely a delay in appointing might work in our favour as the board has the opportunity to quite rightly say 'sorry lads but we cannot and will not make any transfer decisions until we have a manger in place.' Although that goes against us on transfers in.
Although I think we are blessed with a down to earth bunch of lads I'm in no doubt that they will be weighing up their options. There a talented bunch who like Poch & NC are probably driven & want to test themselves at the highest level.

Seed I hope you are wrong on KL & the asset stripping. The thought had crossed my mind. But when she brought in Ralph, fresh from his olympic success I thought she might really be on the level about the clubs ambition, however misguided she was in appointing him. And when she started surfacing at our matches I was taken in.

I believe the fact that we spent about £70 mill in two summers, nearly half of which went on Gaston & his Gitness, Dani Osvaldo probably played a part in the final showdown in January. I said back in 2012 that the family are successful business people who wouldn't pour endless amounts of money into a dream without witnessing some sort of tangible evidence of success. This was why I was so adamant that Nigel should work the plank. Under Poch & NC we were progressing incredibly fast, but it was too expensive for her. Shame because most of the hard work had been done, all we needed was a few finishing touches and European qualification would have been ours.

God bless her Dad for saving us, but she blew things big time. The chance of a lifetime....gone!!!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.[/p][/quote]Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.[/p][/quote]If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)[/p][/quote]Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee. At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces. The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.[/p][/quote]I hope we're not going to play. However, if we are, I also hope we do play hardball. I mean, it would be a poor bit of business if we're serious about progressing next season, and an even worse bit of business if the board and owner are asset-stripping.[/p][/quote]Exactly! In the long term we won't be able to keep every single player,but we can try to fleece these clubs and muck up their planning process as much as possible, which in the process might put off other clubs from launching any potential bids. I personally don't buy this whole asset-stripping line. IMO KL mucked up big time with the NC thing, but i believe that she does want to move the club forward. I'm very skeptical we have the right group running things to accomplish this. And I'm sure she wants to reign in spending as much as possible and i'm worried she may be taking soundings from Les Reed.[/p][/quote]That's exactly my take too. I think KL reigned in the spend on pushing to the next level hence NC moving on and then MoPo. But I don't think she's up for stripping.... However, the loss of NC and his vision and the undoubtedly talented MoPo coupled with Rickie going means there is less desire to hang around amongst our important players. Unfortunately if they don't think the club is going to push to the next level in the near future they will see their ambitions being fulfilled elsewhere. My concern is the quality and experience of the board we now have and their ability to fend off attacks particularly if the players start muttering about moving on. A new quality manager is perhaps our only chance of keeping them. Perversely a delay in appointing might work in our favour as the board has the opportunity to quite rightly say 'sorry lads but we cannot and will not make any transfer decisions until we have a manger in place.' Although that goes against us on transfers in.[/p][/quote]Although I think we are blessed with a down to earth bunch of lads I'm in no doubt that they will be weighing up their options. There a talented bunch who like Poch & NC are probably driven & want to test themselves at the highest level. Seed I hope you are wrong on KL & the asset stripping. The thought had crossed my mind. But when she brought in Ralph, fresh from his olympic success I thought she might really be on the level about the clubs ambition, however misguided she was in appointing him. And when she started surfacing at our matches I was taken in. I believe the fact that we spent about £70 mill in two summers, nearly half of which went on Gaston & his Gitness, Dani Osvaldo probably played a part in the final showdown in January. I said back in 2012 that the family are successful business people who wouldn't pour endless amounts of money into a dream without witnessing some sort of tangible evidence of success. This was why I was so adamant that Nigel should work the plank. Under Poch & NC we were progressing incredibly fast, but it was too expensive for her. Shame because most of the hard work had been done, all we needed was a few finishing touches and European qualification would have been ours. God bless her Dad for saving us, but she blew things big time. The chance of a lifetime....gone!!! redandy10
  • Score: 0

2:56pm Sun 1 Jun 14

up saints says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Gents - please - I understand how you all feel when someone posts what I became privy to mainly because I have always felt the same way.

For the first time I am in contact with these people. I don't have any relations, friends etc close to the decision makers. I was, privvy to this - that's all.

I don't want to believe it any more than you do.

I'm beginning to wish I'd said nothing but was so frustrated and wound up when I got home yesterday I decided, foolishly it seems to pre-warn you.

Please just forget I said it if that makes you feel better. Gloat if it all comes to nothing - I'm ready for that because nobody posting here would be happier than me to lose only SRL and one/two more for big money.

In the unlikely event I'm in the prescence of these people again I won't pass anything on if it's going to cause turmoil - life really is too short.
I understand you not wanting to publicly name your source but why don't you say which player and which club?
iam not looking through all the post for the last few days what have i missed
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Gents - please - I understand how you all feel when someone posts what I became privy to mainly because I have always felt the same way. For the first time I am in contact with these people. I don't have any relations, friends etc close to the decision makers. I was, privvy to this - that's all. I don't want to believe it any more than you do. I'm beginning to wish I'd said nothing but was so frustrated and wound up when I got home yesterday I decided, foolishly it seems to pre-warn you. Please just forget I said it if that makes you feel better. Gloat if it all comes to nothing - I'm ready for that because nobody posting here would be happier than me to lose only SRL and one/two more for big money. In the unlikely event I'm in the prescence of these people again I won't pass anything on if it's going to cause turmoil - life really is too short.[/p][/quote]I understand you not wanting to publicly name your source but why don't you say which player and which club?[/p][/quote]iam not looking through all the post for the last few days what have i missed up saints
  • Score: -2

2:57pm Sun 1 Jun 14

redandy10 says...

redandy10 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Benali76 wrote:
Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.
Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal
The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.
If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)
Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee.
At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces.
The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.
I hope we're not going to play. However, if we are, I also hope we do play hardball. I mean, it would be a poor bit of business if we're serious about progressing next season, and an even worse bit of business if the board and owner are asset-stripping.
Exactly!
In the long term we won't be able to keep every single player,but we can try to fleece these clubs and muck up their planning process as much as possible, which in the process might put off other clubs from launching any potential bids.

I personally don't buy this whole asset-stripping line. IMO KL mucked up big time with the NC thing, but i believe that she does want to move the club forward. I'm very skeptical we have the right group running things to accomplish this. And I'm sure she wants to reign in spending as much as possible and i'm worried she may be taking soundings from Les Reed.
That's exactly my take too. I think KL reigned in the spend on pushing to the next level hence NC moving on and then MoPo. But I don't think she's up for stripping....

However, the loss of NC and his vision and the undoubtedly talented MoPo coupled with Rickie going means there is less desire to hang around amongst our important players. Unfortunately if they don't think the club is going to push to the next level in the near future they will see their ambitions being fulfilled elsewhere.

My concern is the quality and experience of the board we now have and their ability to fend off attacks particularly if the players start muttering about moving on. A new quality manager is perhaps our only chance of keeping them. Perversely a delay in appointing might work in our favour as the board has the opportunity to quite rightly say 'sorry lads but we cannot and will not make any transfer decisions until we have a manger in place.' Although that goes against us on transfers in.
Although I think we are blessed with a down to earth bunch of lads I'm in no doubt that they will be weighing up their options. There a talented bunch who like Poch & NC are probably driven & want to test themselves at the highest level.

Seed I hope you are wrong on KL & the asset stripping. The thought had crossed my mind. But when she brought in Ralph, fresh from his olympic success I thought she might really be on the level about the clubs ambition, however misguided she was in appointing him. And when she started surfacing at our matches I was taken in.

I believe the fact that we spent about £70 mill in two summers, nearly half of which went on Gaston & his Gitness, Dani Osvaldo probably played a part in the final showdown in January. I said back in 2012 that the family are successful business people who wouldn't pour endless amounts of money into a dream without witnessing some sort of tangible evidence of success. This was why I was so adamant that Nigel should work the plank. Under Poch & NC we were progressing incredibly fast, but it was too expensive for her. Shame because most of the hard work had been done, all we needed was a few finishing touches and European qualification would have been ours.

God bless her Dad for saving us, but she blew things big time. The chance of a lifetime....gone!!!
Should be "walk the plank" not "work the plank".
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.[/p][/quote]Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.[/p][/quote]If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)[/p][/quote]Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee. At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces. The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.[/p][/quote]I hope we're not going to play. However, if we are, I also hope we do play hardball. I mean, it would be a poor bit of business if we're serious about progressing next season, and an even worse bit of business if the board and owner are asset-stripping.[/p][/quote]Exactly! In the long term we won't be able to keep every single player,but we can try to fleece these clubs and muck up their planning process as much as possible, which in the process might put off other clubs from launching any potential bids. I personally don't buy this whole asset-stripping line. IMO KL mucked up big time with the NC thing, but i believe that she does want to move the club forward. I'm very skeptical we have the right group running things to accomplish this. And I'm sure she wants to reign in spending as much as possible and i'm worried she may be taking soundings from Les Reed.[/p][/quote]That's exactly my take too. I think KL reigned in the spend on pushing to the next level hence NC moving on and then MoPo. But I don't think she's up for stripping.... However, the loss of NC and his vision and the undoubtedly talented MoPo coupled with Rickie going means there is less desire to hang around amongst our important players. Unfortunately if they don't think the club is going to push to the next level in the near future they will see their ambitions being fulfilled elsewhere. My concern is the quality and experience of the board we now have and their ability to fend off attacks particularly if the players start muttering about moving on. A new quality manager is perhaps our only chance of keeping them. Perversely a delay in appointing might work in our favour as the board has the opportunity to quite rightly say 'sorry lads but we cannot and will not make any transfer decisions until we have a manger in place.' Although that goes against us on transfers in.[/p][/quote]Although I think we are blessed with a down to earth bunch of lads I'm in no doubt that they will be weighing up their options. There a talented bunch who like Poch & NC are probably driven & want to test themselves at the highest level. Seed I hope you are wrong on KL & the asset stripping. The thought had crossed my mind. But when she brought in Ralph, fresh from his olympic success I thought she might really be on the level about the clubs ambition, however misguided she was in appointing him. And when she started surfacing at our matches I was taken in. I believe the fact that we spent about £70 mill in two summers, nearly half of which went on Gaston & his Gitness, Dani Osvaldo probably played a part in the final showdown in January. I said back in 2012 that the family are successful business people who wouldn't pour endless amounts of money into a dream without witnessing some sort of tangible evidence of success. This was why I was so adamant that Nigel should work the plank. Under Poch & NC we were progressing incredibly fast, but it was too expensive for her. Shame because most of the hard work had been done, all we needed was a few finishing touches and European qualification would have been ours. God bless her Dad for saving us, but she blew things big time. The chance of a lifetime....gone!!![/p][/quote]Should be "walk the plank" not "work the plank". redandy10
  • Score: -1

3:00pm Sun 1 Jun 14

promised land says...

Jls217. I've noticed you come out with this, so called inside information before only to be way off the mark. In the run-up to Poch leaving you were saying " don't worry Poch is going nowhere and a announcement will be made by the club tomorrow". Week later, he became spurs manager.
I see you for what you are. A wind-up merchant !
Jls217. I've noticed you come out with this, so called inside information before only to be way off the mark. In the run-up to Poch leaving you were saying " don't worry Poch is going nowhere and a announcement will be made by the club tomorrow". Week later, he became spurs manager. I see you for what you are. A wind-up merchant ! promised land
  • Score: 4

3:03pm Sun 1 Jun 14

cromwell9 says...

AFCB
Thats us down the rd ,Feel very sorry for you Saints ,loosing all your players ,and manager,
On the other hand we are looking forward to a nice cheque when you sell Lanna for 30 mill.
Just be grateful you dont have to send it to our Pompy friends,down the rd,
AFCB Thats us down the rd ,Feel very sorry for you Saints ,loosing all your players ,and manager, On the other hand we are looking forward to a nice cheque when you sell Lanna for 30 mill. Just be grateful you dont have to send it to our Pompy friends,down the rd, cromwell9
  • Score: -3

3:04pm Sun 1 Jun 14

THE12THMAN says...

promised land wrote:
Jls217. I've noticed you come out with this, so called inside information before only to be way off the mark. In the run-up to Poch leaving you were saying " don't worry Poch is going nowhere and a announcement will be made by the club tomorrow". Week later, he became spurs manager.
I see you for what you are. A wind-up merchant !
He sounds like an ill informed wind up merchant to me!
[quote][p][bold]promised land[/bold] wrote: Jls217. I've noticed you come out with this, so called inside information before only to be way off the mark. In the run-up to Poch leaving you were saying " don't worry Poch is going nowhere and a announcement will be made by the club tomorrow". Week later, he became spurs manager. I see you for what you are. A wind-up merchant ![/p][/quote]He sounds like an ill informed wind up merchant to me! THE12THMAN
  • Score: 2

3:04pm Sun 1 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

jls217 wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
@ jls217
The nine players, whose names you won't name. Could they be the same nine players that were named in a very badly written Mirror article, yesterday, that said we needed to sell all of them owing to our financial problems?
Just asking, because if his awareness of our financial situation is any indication as to the quality of his "in the know" knowledge, then he knows jack.

Regarding the ongoing sagas of Shaw and Lallana, rejecting an offer does not have to mean we are negotiating or haggling for a better deal. It means that the offer to buy has been declined. End of.

I agree with those that say "make them request a transfer". Let the players, that are subject to all this attention show the fans that THEY are rejecting The Saints in favour of another club.

Would rejecting their transfer request mean that they wouldn't try next season?
Maybe, maybe not, but a strong manager making them turn out for the U21 team, putting international call ups at risk and having team mates having a go at them for affecting their win bonuses, may sort that out.
Plus, are they the type of person that would be happy wearing the mantle of "trouble causer"?

I would definitely call their bluff.
Doubt it mate. These are the sort of people and this one in particular who make the gossip happen they don't go to the papers gossip columns.

He seemed to think it would happen because this is what the agents wanted, he knows the football world and he knows Saints are quite well off financially.

I don't like all this I know someone who's related who cleans the car of ... stuff and when I hear it I usually just glaze over and either don't listen or don't read it. I don't blame anyone else for feeling the same way.

Just for once I get info and not from any club source so there is no hidden agenda. I can't read their minds so can't say 100% gospel but if I were a betting man I'd be prepared to put a quid or two on his knowledge/assessment

. Like I said I only got to ask a couple of questions as spent most of the time just listening.

Let me say again I can only hope Saints can say no to most of it because it is devastating news, or at least work a suitable player/money exchange to our advantage. I've been ultra positive about the situation up till yesterday and not so sure any more.

If we could hear a player or two say quite categorically, "I'm staying at Saints and don't want to go anywhere" would be very re-assuring but has anyone done that yet? That concerns me.
Victor said he is going to honour his contract and that what he had said previously was wildly misinterpreted.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: @ jls217 The nine players, whose names you won't name. Could they be the same nine players that were named in a very badly written Mirror article, yesterday, that said we needed to sell all of them owing to our financial problems? Just asking, because if his awareness of our financial situation is any indication as to the quality of his "in the know" knowledge, then he knows jack. Regarding the ongoing sagas of Shaw and Lallana, rejecting an offer does not have to mean we are negotiating or haggling for a better deal. It means that the offer to buy has been declined. End of. I agree with those that say "make them request a transfer". Let the players, that are subject to all this attention show the fans that THEY are rejecting The Saints in favour of another club. Would rejecting their transfer request mean that they wouldn't try next season? Maybe, maybe not, but a strong manager making them turn out for the U21 team, putting international call ups at risk and having team mates having a go at them for affecting their win bonuses, may sort that out. Plus, are they the type of person that would be happy wearing the mantle of "trouble causer"? I would definitely call their bluff.[/p][/quote]Doubt it mate. These are the sort of people and this one in particular who make the gossip happen they don't go to the papers gossip columns. He seemed to think it would happen because this is what the agents wanted, he knows the football world and he knows Saints are quite well off financially. I don't like all this I know someone who's related who cleans the car of ... stuff and when I hear it I usually just glaze over and either don't listen or don't read it. I don't blame anyone else for feeling the same way. Just for once I get info and not from any club source so there is no hidden agenda. I can't read their minds so can't say 100% gospel but if I were a betting man I'd be prepared to put a quid or two on his knowledge/assessment . Like I said I only got to ask a couple of questions as spent most of the time just listening. Let me say again I can only hope Saints can say no to most of it because it is devastating news, or at least work a suitable player/money exchange to our advantage. I've been ultra positive about the situation up till yesterday and not so sure any more. If we could hear a player or two say quite categorically, "I'm staying at Saints and don't want to go anywhere" would be very re-assuring but has anyone done that yet? That concerns me.[/p][/quote]Victor said he is going to honour his contract and that what he had said previously was wildly misinterpreted. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

3:06pm Sun 1 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

cromwell9 wrote:
AFCB
Thats us down the rd ,Feel very sorry for you Saints ,loosing all your players ,and manager,
On the other hand we are looking forward to a nice cheque when you sell Lanna for 30 mill.
Just be grateful you dont have to send it to our Pompy friends,down the rd,
The word is losing not loosing, and it is still not certain yet.
[quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: AFCB Thats us down the rd ,Feel very sorry for you Saints ,loosing all your players ,and manager, On the other hand we are looking forward to a nice cheque when you sell Lanna for 30 mill. Just be grateful you dont have to send it to our Pompy friends,down the rd,[/p][/quote]The word is losing not loosing, and it is still not certain yet. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

3:08pm Sun 1 Jun 14

ctsaint says...

redandy10 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Benali76 wrote:
Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.
Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal
The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.
If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)
Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee.
At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces.
The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.
I hope we're not going to play. However, if we are, I also hope we do play hardball. I mean, it would be a poor bit of business if we're serious about progressing next season, and an even worse bit of business if the board and owner are asset-stripping.
Exactly!
In the long term we won't be able to keep every single player,but we can try to fleece these clubs and muck up their planning process as much as possible, which in the process might put off other clubs from launching any potential bids.

I personally don't buy this whole asset-stripping line. IMO KL mucked up big time with the NC thing, but i believe that she does want to move the club forward. I'm very skeptical we have the right group running things to accomplish this. And I'm sure she wants to reign in spending as much as possible and i'm worried she may be taking soundings from Les Reed.
That's exactly my take too. I think KL reigned in the spend on pushing to the next level hence NC moving on and then MoPo. But I don't think she's up for stripping....

However, the loss of NC and his vision and the undoubtedly talented MoPo coupled with Rickie going means there is less desire to hang around amongst our important players. Unfortunately if they don't think the club is going to push to the next level in the near future they will see their ambitions being fulfilled elsewhere.

My concern is the quality and experience of the board we now have and their ability to fend off attacks particularly if the players start muttering about moving on. A new quality manager is perhaps our only chance of keeping them. Perversely a delay in appointing might work in our favour as the board has the opportunity to quite rightly say 'sorry lads but we cannot and will not make any transfer decisions until we have a manger in place.' Although that goes against us on transfers in.
Although I think we are blessed with a down to earth bunch of lads I'm in no doubt that they will be weighing up their options. There a talented bunch who like Poch & NC are probably driven & want to test themselves at the highest level.

Seed I hope you are wrong on KL & the asset stripping. The thought had crossed my mind. But when she brought in Ralph, fresh from his olympic success I thought she might really be on the level about the clubs ambition, however misguided she was in appointing him. And when she started surfacing at our matches I was taken in.

I believe the fact that we spent about £70 mill in two summers, nearly half of which went on Gaston & his Gitness, Dani Osvaldo probably played a part in the final showdown in January. I said back in 2012 that the family are successful business people who wouldn't pour endless amounts of money into a dream without witnessing some sort of tangible evidence of success. This was why I was so adamant that Nigel should work the plank. Under Poch & NC we were progressing incredibly fast, but it was too expensive for her. Shame because most of the hard work had been done, all we needed was a few finishing touches and European qualification would have been ours.

God bless her Dad for saving us, but she blew things big time. The chance of a lifetime....gone!!!
Bitter sweet seeing SRL go..... I guess post World Cup his England career tournament wise is done and emotionally to go full circle back to Liverpool is a thanks from us to him.

Now.......to all saints fans.....keep calm, the press have whipped up a frenzy and ignore facts .

This article is the best I have found summarising our journey:
http://hereisthecity
.com/en-gb/2014/01/1
6/ca-katharina-liebh
errs-ascent-to-the-s
outhampton-helm/

Coupled with;
http://www.theriches
t.com/sports/soccer-
sports/top-10-riches
t-english-premier-le
ague-owners/2/

This tells us we have sound and sensible owners who hire and pay for the best advice . Their actions to date the proof in the pudding.

They are not mugs and they will not assert strip SFC either intentionally or through incompetent decisions.

They were criticised for lining Poch up when NA got fired and now certain panic merchants are wanting an instant decision.

The Lala and Shaw transfer has been imminent for weeks now and we haven't sold and the players haven't asked for a transfer.

Whoever we hire as head coach will fit our footballing philosophy that's the southampton way and that goes from youth team to first team.

We had doubts and reservations about Mopo.....let's trust the owners and the core team at the club.

NC did well as I'd NA and MOPO , this isn't the end, it's the end of the beginning . RK said we want Europe and nobody to go unless we agree, that says prepare for a new chapter to me.

Man up, enjoy the World Cup where there ARE 3 saints even if SRL will be at Anfield next year!

Saints to finish above the yids next season!
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.[/p][/quote]Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.[/p][/quote]If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)[/p][/quote]Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee. At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces. The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.[/p][/quote]I hope we're not going to play. However, if we are, I also hope we do play hardball. I mean, it would be a poor bit of business if we're serious about progressing next season, and an even worse bit of business if the board and owner are asset-stripping.[/p][/quote]Exactly! In the long term we won't be able to keep every single player,but we can try to fleece these clubs and muck up their planning process as much as possible, which in the process might put off other clubs from launching any potential bids. I personally don't buy this whole asset-stripping line. IMO KL mucked up big time with the NC thing, but i believe that she does want to move the club forward. I'm very skeptical we have the right group running things to accomplish this. And I'm sure she wants to reign in spending as much as possible and i'm worried she may be taking soundings from Les Reed.[/p][/quote]That's exactly my take too. I think KL reigned in the spend on pushing to the next level hence NC moving on and then MoPo. But I don't think she's up for stripping.... However, the loss of NC and his vision and the undoubtedly talented MoPo coupled with Rickie going means there is less desire to hang around amongst our important players. Unfortunately if they don't think the club is going to push to the next level in the near future they will see their ambitions being fulfilled elsewhere. My concern is the quality and experience of the board we now have and their ability to fend off attacks particularly if the players start muttering about moving on. A new quality manager is perhaps our only chance of keeping them. Perversely a delay in appointing might work in our favour as the board has the opportunity to quite rightly say 'sorry lads but we cannot and will not make any transfer decisions until we have a manger in place.' Although that goes against us on transfers in.[/p][/quote]Although I think we are blessed with a down to earth bunch of lads I'm in no doubt that they will be weighing up their options. There a talented bunch who like Poch & NC are probably driven & want to test themselves at the highest level. Seed I hope you are wrong on KL & the asset stripping. The thought had crossed my mind. But when she brought in Ralph, fresh from his olympic success I thought she might really be on the level about the clubs ambition, however misguided she was in appointing him. And when she started surfacing at our matches I was taken in. I believe the fact that we spent about £70 mill in two summers, nearly half of which went on Gaston & his Gitness, Dani Osvaldo probably played a part in the final showdown in January. I said back in 2012 that the family are successful business people who wouldn't pour endless amounts of money into a dream without witnessing some sort of tangible evidence of success. This was why I was so adamant that Nigel should work the plank. Under Poch & NC we were progressing incredibly fast, but it was too expensive for her. Shame because most of the hard work had been done, all we needed was a few finishing touches and European qualification would have been ours. God bless her Dad for saving us, but she blew things big time. The chance of a lifetime....gone!!![/p][/quote]Bitter sweet seeing SRL go..... I guess post World Cup his England career tournament wise is done and emotionally to go full circle back to Liverpool is a thanks from us to him. Now.......to all saints fans.....keep calm, the press have whipped up a frenzy and ignore facts . This article is the best I have found summarising our journey: http://hereisthecity .com/en-gb/2014/01/1 6/ca-katharina-liebh errs-ascent-to-the-s outhampton-helm/ Coupled with; http://www.theriches t.com/sports/soccer- sports/top-10-riches t-english-premier-le ague-owners/2/ This tells us we have sound and sensible owners who hire and pay for the best advice . Their actions to date the proof in the pudding. They are not mugs and they will not assert strip SFC either intentionally or through incompetent decisions. They were criticised for lining Poch up when NA got fired and now certain panic merchants are wanting an instant decision. The Lala and Shaw transfer has been imminent for weeks now and we haven't sold and the players haven't asked for a transfer. Whoever we hire as head coach will fit our footballing philosophy that's the southampton way and that goes from youth team to first team. We had doubts and reservations about Mopo.....let's trust the owners and the core team at the club. NC did well as I'd NA and MOPO , this isn't the end, it's the end of the beginning . RK said we want Europe and nobody to go unless we agree, that says prepare for a new chapter to me. Man up, enjoy the World Cup where there ARE 3 saints even if SRL will be at Anfield next year! Saints to finish above the yids next season! ctsaint
  • Score: 5

3:10pm Sun 1 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Osprey,Nice to see back to your usual self. Not everyone will agree though, I bet.
I say it as I see it, I am not always right though, I weigh up the evidence and offer an opinion based on facts as they are portrayed, my opinion is only valid if the original information is correct.
Your opinion, like everyone else's opinions, is a valid opinion. It might not be very though. ;)
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: Osprey,Nice to see back to your usual self. Not everyone will agree though, I bet.[/p][/quote]I say it as I see it, I am not always right though, I weigh up the evidence and offer an opinion based on facts as they are portrayed, my opinion is only valid if the original information is correct.[/p][/quote]Your opinion, like everyone else's opinions, is a valid opinion. It might not be very though. ;) Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

3:14pm Sun 1 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

promised land wrote:
Jls217. I've noticed you come out with this, so called inside information before only to be way off the mark. In the run-up to Poch leaving you were saying " don't worry Poch is going nowhere and a announcement will be made by the club tomorrow". Week later, he became spurs manager.
I see you for what you are. A wind-up merchant !
Genuine fans can also get things wrong. I don't think he's a WUM.
[quote][p][bold]promised land[/bold] wrote: Jls217. I've noticed you come out with this, so called inside information before only to be way off the mark. In the run-up to Poch leaving you were saying " don't worry Poch is going nowhere and a announcement will be made by the club tomorrow". Week later, he became spurs manager. I see you for what you are. A wind-up merchant ![/p][/quote]Genuine fans can also get things wrong. I don't think he's a WUM. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

3:16pm Sun 1 Jun 14

el caballo santos101 says...

well as no one else has mentioned it, and our local paper only like to print the `meltdown` rumours, I thought I would bring this article to everyone`s attention.

http://www.express.c
o.uk/sport/football/
479575/Ronald-Koeman
-promised-50m-transf
er-kitty-as-Saints-c
lose-in-on-Pochettin
o-replacement

the sunday express are saying that ronald koeman is on a short list of just 2 managers being considered. they are also saying that they want to install a manager this week. added to that the new manager ill be given, has been promised, a transfer kitty of £50mill+ any player sales.

if this is true, and I don't know if it is or not, then MP leaving had nothing to do with funds available or, as RK said, the wish to challenge for European football. the only reasons left for MP`s departure is he either didn't want to stay after NC left or he was just using us as a stepping stone to a `bigger` club, I personally don't see spuds as a bigger club though. again if this is true there is nothing he board could have done to keep him, they apparently offered more wages than spuds (£6mill a year) and just as big if not bigger transfer funds. it also ends the `NC left because KL was cutting back on expenditure` rumours. its more likely that NC left because, as was stated at the time, NC wanted total control and didn't want a board with KL`s involvement. everyone knows he saw the club as his `baby` and perhaps he wasn't willing to share the parental responsibilities. KL might not have been happy with the overspend on staplewood and perhaps she just wanted a say in how her money was being spent.
well as no one else has mentioned it, and our local paper only like to print the `meltdown` rumours, I thought I would bring this article to everyone`s attention. http://www.express.c o.uk/sport/football/ 479575/Ronald-Koeman -promised-50m-transf er-kitty-as-Saints-c lose-in-on-Pochettin o-replacement the sunday express are saying that ronald koeman is on a short list of just 2 managers being considered. they are also saying that they want to install a manager this week. added to that the new manager ill be given, has been promised, a transfer kitty of £50mill+ any player sales. if this is true, and I don't know if it is or not, then MP leaving had nothing to do with funds available or, as RK said, the wish to challenge for European football. the only reasons left for MP`s departure is he either didn't want to stay after NC left or he was just using us as a stepping stone to a `bigger` club, I personally don't see spuds as a bigger club though. again if this is true there is nothing he board could have done to keep him, they apparently offered more wages than spuds (£6mill a year) and just as big if not bigger transfer funds. it also ends the `NC left because KL was cutting back on expenditure` rumours. its more likely that NC left because, as was stated at the time, NC wanted total control and didn't want a board with KL`s involvement. everyone knows he saw the club as his `baby` and perhaps he wasn't willing to share the parental responsibilities. KL might not have been happy with the overspend on staplewood and perhaps she just wanted a say in how her money was being spent. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 6

3:17pm Sun 1 Jun 14

Ontario Saint says...

It would appear that the Club will not sell any of their players until their New Manager is in place as they had stated. Rickie was a different situation as understandably he would want to play for his hometown in the Champions league and no one should begrudge his wish as he did an amazing job for Saints.
Reading all the depressing posts yesterday , I believe things may be a lot better than we expect providing they choose the right Manager and I would not have a problem if it was Moyes or Koeman
It would appear that the Club will not sell any of their players until their New Manager is in place as they had stated. Rickie was a different situation as understandably he would want to play for his hometown in the Champions league and no one should begrudge his wish as he did an amazing job for Saints. Reading all the depressing posts yesterday , I believe things may be a lot better than we expect providing they choose the right Manager and I would not have a problem if it was Moyes or Koeman Ontario Saint
  • Score: 1

3:20pm Sun 1 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
@ jls217
The nine players, whose names you won't name. Could they be the same nine players that were named in a very badly written Mirror article, yesterday, that said we needed to sell all of them owing to our financial problems?
Just asking, because if his awareness of our financial situation is any indication as to the quality of his "in the know" knowledge, then he knows jack.

Regarding the ongoing sagas of Shaw and Lallana, rejecting an offer does not have to mean we are negotiating or haggling for a better deal. It means that the offer to buy has been declined. End of.

I agree with those that say "make them request a transfer". Let the players, that are subject to all this attention show the fans that THEY are rejecting The Saints in favour of another club.

Would rejecting their transfer request mean that they wouldn't try next season?
Maybe, maybe not, but a strong manager making them turn out for the U21 team, putting international call ups at risk and having team mates having a go at them for affecting their win bonuses, may sort that out.
Plus, are they the type of person that would be happy wearing the mantle of "trouble causer"?

I would definitely call their bluff.
Doubt it mate. These are the sort of people and this one in particular who make the gossip happen they don't go to the papers gossip columns.

He seemed to think it would happen because this is what the agents wanted, he knows the football world and he knows Saints are quite well off financially.

I don't like all this I know someone who's related who cleans the car of ... stuff and when I hear it I usually just glaze over and either don't listen or don't read it. I don't blame anyone else for feeling the same way.

Just for once I get info and not from any club source so there is no hidden agenda. I can't read their minds so can't say 100% gospel but if I were a betting man I'd be prepared to put a quid or two on his knowledge/assessment


. Like I said I only got to ask a couple of questions as spent most of the time just listening.

Let me say again I can only hope Saints can say no to most of it because it is devastating news, or at least work a suitable player/money exchange to our advantage. I've been ultra positive about the situation up till yesterday and not so sure any more.

If we could hear a player or two say quite categorically, "I'm staying at Saints and don't want to go anywhere" would be very re-assuring but has anyone done that yet? That concerns me.
Victor said he is going to honour his contract and that what he had said previously was wildly misinterpreted.
Mind you, on another thread, someone seems to want believe the original article and not the 'correction'. There's no winning with some people.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: @ jls217 The nine players, whose names you won't name. Could they be the same nine players that were named in a very badly written Mirror article, yesterday, that said we needed to sell all of them owing to our financial problems? Just asking, because if his awareness of our financial situation is any indication as to the quality of his "in the know" knowledge, then he knows jack. Regarding the ongoing sagas of Shaw and Lallana, rejecting an offer does not have to mean we are negotiating or haggling for a better deal. It means that the offer to buy has been declined. End of. I agree with those that say "make them request a transfer". Let the players, that are subject to all this attention show the fans that THEY are rejecting The Saints in favour of another club. Would rejecting their transfer request mean that they wouldn't try next season? Maybe, maybe not, but a strong manager making them turn out for the U21 team, putting international call ups at risk and having team mates having a go at them for affecting their win bonuses, may sort that out. Plus, are they the type of person that would be happy wearing the mantle of "trouble causer"? I would definitely call their bluff.[/p][/quote]Doubt it mate. These are the sort of people and this one in particular who make the gossip happen they don't go to the papers gossip columns. He seemed to think it would happen because this is what the agents wanted, he knows the football world and he knows Saints are quite well off financially. I don't like all this I know someone who's related who cleans the car of ... stuff and when I hear it I usually just glaze over and either don't listen or don't read it. I don't blame anyone else for feeling the same way. Just for once I get info and not from any club source so there is no hidden agenda. I can't read their minds so can't say 100% gospel but if I were a betting man I'd be prepared to put a quid or two on his knowledge/assessment . Like I said I only got to ask a couple of questions as spent most of the time just listening. Let me say again I can only hope Saints can say no to most of it because it is devastating news, or at least work a suitable player/money exchange to our advantage. I've been ultra positive about the situation up till yesterday and not so sure any more. If we could hear a player or two say quite categorically, "I'm staying at Saints and don't want to go anywhere" would be very re-assuring but has anyone done that yet? That concerns me.[/p][/quote]Victor said he is going to honour his contract and that what he had said previously was wildly misinterpreted.[/p][/quote]Mind you, on another thread, someone seems to want believe the original article and not the 'correction'. There's no winning with some people. Rising_Son
  • Score: -1

3:46pm Sun 1 Jun 14

TGodSFC says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
well as no one else has mentioned it, and our local paper only like to print the `meltdown` rumours, I thought I would bring this article to everyone`s attention.

http://www.express.c

o.uk/sport/football/

479575/Ronald-Koeman

-promised-50m-transf

er-kitty-as-Saints-c

lose-in-on-Pochettin

o-replacement

the sunday express are saying that ronald koeman is on a short list of just 2 managers being considered. they are also saying that they want to install a manager this week. added to that the new manager ill be given, has been promised, a transfer kitty of £50mill+ any player sales.

if this is true, and I don't know if it is or not, then MP leaving had nothing to do with funds available or, as RK said, the wish to challenge for European football. the only reasons left for MP`s departure is he either didn't want to stay after NC left or he was just using us as a stepping stone to a `bigger` club, I personally don't see spuds as a bigger club though. again if this is true there is nothing he board could have done to keep him, they apparently offered more wages than spuds (£6mill a year) and just as big if not bigger transfer funds. it also ends the `NC left because KL was cutting back on expenditure` rumours. its more likely that NC left because, as was stated at the time, NC wanted total control and didn't want a board with KL`s involvement. everyone knows he saw the club as his `baby` and perhaps he wasn't willing to share the parental responsibilities. KL might not have been happy with the overspend on staplewood and perhaps she just wanted a say in how her money was being spent.
I personally think that's is spot on. There are loads of rumors flying about but the facts that I've read and people i trust that I've spoken to I don't think any of us need to worry.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: well as no one else has mentioned it, and our local paper only like to print the `meltdown` rumours, I thought I would bring this article to everyone`s attention. http://www.express.c o.uk/sport/football/ 479575/Ronald-Koeman -promised-50m-transf er-kitty-as-Saints-c lose-in-on-Pochettin o-replacement the sunday express are saying that ronald koeman is on a short list of just 2 managers being considered. they are also saying that they want to install a manager this week. added to that the new manager ill be given, has been promised, a transfer kitty of £50mill+ any player sales. if this is true, and I don't know if it is or not, then MP leaving had nothing to do with funds available or, as RK said, the wish to challenge for European football. the only reasons left for MP`s departure is he either didn't want to stay after NC left or he was just using us as a stepping stone to a `bigger` club, I personally don't see spuds as a bigger club though. again if this is true there is nothing he board could have done to keep him, they apparently offered more wages than spuds (£6mill a year) and just as big if not bigger transfer funds. it also ends the `NC left because KL was cutting back on expenditure` rumours. its more likely that NC left because, as was stated at the time, NC wanted total control and didn't want a board with KL`s involvement. everyone knows he saw the club as his `baby` and perhaps he wasn't willing to share the parental responsibilities. KL might not have been happy with the overspend on staplewood and perhaps she just wanted a say in how her money was being spent.[/p][/quote]I personally think that's is spot on. There are loads of rumors flying about but the facts that I've read and people i trust that I've spoken to I don't think any of us need to worry. TGodSFC
  • Score: 2

3:47pm Sun 1 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

redandy10 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Benali76 wrote:
Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.
Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal
The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.
If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)
Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee.
At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces.
The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.
I hope we're not going to play. However, if we are, I also hope we do play hardball. I mean, it would be a poor bit of business if we're serious about progressing next season, and an even worse bit of business if the board and owner are asset-stripping.
Exactly!
In the long term we won't be able to keep every single player,but we can try to fleece these clubs and muck up their planning process as much as possible, which in the process might put off other clubs from launching any potential bids.

I personally don't buy this whole asset-stripping line. IMO KL mucked up big time with the NC thing, but i believe that she does want to move the club forward. I'm very skeptical we have the right group running things to accomplish this. And I'm sure she wants to reign in spending as much as possible and i'm worried she may be taking soundings from Les Reed.
That's exactly my take too. I think KL reigned in the spend on pushing to the next level hence NC moving on and then MoPo. But I don't think she's up for stripping....

However, the loss of NC and his vision and the undoubtedly talented MoPo coupled with Rickie going means there is less desire to hang around amongst our important players. Unfortunately if they don't think the club is going to push to the next level in the near future they will see their ambitions being fulfilled elsewhere.

My concern is the quality and experience of the board we now have and their ability to fend off attacks particularly if the players start muttering about moving on. A new quality manager is perhaps our only chance of keeping them. Perversely a delay in appointing might work in our favour as the board has the opportunity to quite rightly say 'sorry lads but we cannot and will not make any transfer decisions until we have a manger in place.' Although that goes against us on transfers in.
Although I think we are blessed with a down to earth bunch of lads I'm in no doubt that they will be weighing up their options. There a talented bunch who like Poch & NC are probably driven & want to test themselves at the highest level.

Seed I hope you are wrong on KL & the asset stripping. The thought had crossed my mind. But when she brought in Ralph, fresh from his olympic success I thought she might really be on the level about the clubs ambition, however misguided she was in appointing him. And when she started surfacing at our matches I was taken in.

I believe the fact that we spent about £70 mill in two summers, nearly half of which went on Gaston & his Gitness, Dani Osvaldo probably played a part in the final showdown in January. I said back in 2012 that the family are successful business people who wouldn't pour endless amounts of money into a dream without witnessing some sort of tangible evidence of success. This was why I was so adamant that Nigel should work the plank. Under Poch & NC we were progressing incredibly fast, but it was too expensive for her. Shame because most of the hard work had been done, all we needed was a few finishing touches and European qualification would have been ours.

God bless her Dad for saving us, but she blew things big time. The chance of a lifetime....gone!!!
No I said I don't believe she is asset stripping and never have. I just think the consequences of not pushing on could be the disintegration of all we have achieved these last few years. To me the loss of anyone of Luke, Calum, Nat, Jay, Dejan, Adam or Jack would be a step backwards. Anyone else I can live with. I also can live with the loss of Rickie but find it very strange that Liverpool ring on a Thurs announcing their interest but insisting it's done by the end of the weekend. I think that's arrogant. Surely a club of their stature doesn't suddenly decide we must buy that player and it must be now!

It's not over yet and the board do seem to be standing firm on Adam so hopefully I will proven to be terribly wrong in my assessment of them - I hope so!
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.[/p][/quote]Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.[/p][/quote]If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)[/p][/quote]Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee. At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces. The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.[/p][/quote]I hope we're not going to play. However, if we are, I also hope we do play hardball. I mean, it would be a poor bit of business if we're serious about progressing next season, and an even worse bit of business if the board and owner are asset-stripping.[/p][/quote]Exactly! In the long term we won't be able to keep every single player,but we can try to fleece these clubs and muck up their planning process as much as possible, which in the process might put off other clubs from launching any potential bids. I personally don't buy this whole asset-stripping line. IMO KL mucked up big time with the NC thing, but i believe that she does want to move the club forward. I'm very skeptical we have the right group running things to accomplish this. And I'm sure she wants to reign in spending as much as possible and i'm worried she may be taking soundings from Les Reed.[/p][/quote]That's exactly my take too. I think KL reigned in the spend on pushing to the next level hence NC moving on and then MoPo. But I don't think she's up for stripping.... However, the loss of NC and his vision and the undoubtedly talented MoPo coupled with Rickie going means there is less desire to hang around amongst our important players. Unfortunately if they don't think the club is going to push to the next level in the near future they will see their ambitions being fulfilled elsewhere. My concern is the quality and experience of the board we now have and their ability to fend off attacks particularly if the players start muttering about moving on. A new quality manager is perhaps our only chance of keeping them. Perversely a delay in appointing might work in our favour as the board has the opportunity to quite rightly say 'sorry lads but we cannot and will not make any transfer decisions until we have a manger in place.' Although that goes against us on transfers in.[/p][/quote]Although I think we are blessed with a down to earth bunch of lads I'm in no doubt that they will be weighing up their options. There a talented bunch who like Poch & NC are probably driven & want to test themselves at the highest level. Seed I hope you are wrong on KL & the asset stripping. The thought had crossed my mind. But when she brought in Ralph, fresh from his olympic success I thought she might really be on the level about the clubs ambition, however misguided she was in appointing him. And when she started surfacing at our matches I was taken in. I believe the fact that we spent about £70 mill in two summers, nearly half of which went on Gaston & his Gitness, Dani Osvaldo probably played a part in the final showdown in January. I said back in 2012 that the family are successful business people who wouldn't pour endless amounts of money into a dream without witnessing some sort of tangible evidence of success. This was why I was so adamant that Nigel should work the plank. Under Poch & NC we were progressing incredibly fast, but it was too expensive for her. Shame because most of the hard work had been done, all we needed was a few finishing touches and European qualification would have been ours. God bless her Dad for saving us, but she blew things big time. The chance of a lifetime....gone!!![/p][/quote]No I said I don't believe she is asset stripping and never have. I just think the consequences of not pushing on could be the disintegration of all we have achieved these last few years. To me the loss of anyone of Luke, Calum, Nat, Jay, Dejan, Adam or Jack would be a step backwards. Anyone else I can live with. I also can live with the loss of Rickie but find it very strange that Liverpool ring on a Thurs announcing their interest but insisting it's done by the end of the weekend. I think that's arrogant. Surely a club of their stature doesn't suddenly decide we must buy that player and it must be now! It's not over yet and the board do seem to be standing firm on Adam so hopefully I will proven to be terribly wrong in my assessment of them - I hope so! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 0

3:58pm Sun 1 Jun 14

TGodSFC says...

The mood on here today seems the best its been in a long time.
The mood on here today seems the best its been in a long time. TGodSFC
  • Score: 1

3:58pm Sun 1 Jun 14

montecristosaint says...

Confucious wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
Blimey. Where are all the doom mongers and whingers this morning . I haven'theard of hundreds of mass suicides in the Southampton area yet. Perhaps they are all sleeping off yesterday's drunken rants and insults. Looks like the club did make an exception over player transfers with regards to Sir Rickie. Good luck to him. I think we will see him make some pretty emotional comments on Monday when he signs for the northern thieves. As for Adam tell them to do one. Poch will probably come in and offer £30mil anyway, thus disproving the theory he want C/L football. It's about money. Victor Wanyama left a side guaranteed of C/L football by virtue of the fact that the SPL is a mickey mouse league, and he came to Saints. Why? Cos he got more money. PS If we value Adam at £30 mil the price to the Spuds should be £40mil.
Yeah, more cheerful so far today. I think the doomsters are out with lighted candles looking for gas leaks under St Marys.

I laced my Auntie Elspeth's breakfast with cat food this morning and it's done wonders for my spirit.
you wait till Mrs Wilson gets hold of you in the morning you ll be reduced to cats ****.Couldnt happen to a nicer fella.Arfff...
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: Blimey. Where are all the doom mongers and whingers this morning . I haven'theard of hundreds of mass suicides in the Southampton area yet. Perhaps they are all sleeping off yesterday's drunken rants and insults. Looks like the club did make an exception over player transfers with regards to Sir Rickie. Good luck to him. I think we will see him make some pretty emotional comments on Monday when he signs for the northern thieves. As for Adam tell them to do one. Poch will probably come in and offer £30mil anyway, thus disproving the theory he want C/L football. It's about money. Victor Wanyama left a side guaranteed of C/L football by virtue of the fact that the SPL is a mickey mouse league, and he came to Saints. Why? Cos he got more money. PS If we value Adam at £30 mil the price to the Spuds should be £40mil.[/p][/quote]Yeah, more cheerful so far today. I think the doomsters are out with lighted candles looking for gas leaks under St Marys. I laced my Auntie Elspeth's breakfast with cat food this morning and it's done wonders for my spirit.[/p][/quote]you wait till Mrs Wilson gets hold of you in the morning you ll be reduced to cats ****.Couldnt happen to a nicer fella.Arfff... montecristosaint
  • Score: -1

4:00pm Sun 1 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Benali76 wrote:
Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.
Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal
The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.
If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)
Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee.
At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces.
The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.
I hope we're not going to play. However, if we are, I also hope we do play hardball. I mean, it would be a poor bit of business if we're serious about progressing next season, and an even worse bit of business if the board and owner are asset-stripping.
Exactly!
In the long term we won't be able to keep every single player,but we can try to fleece these clubs and muck up their planning process as much as possible, which in the process might put off other clubs from launching any potential bids.

I personally don't buy this whole asset-stripping line. IMO KL mucked up big time with the NC thing, but i believe that she does want to move the club forward. I'm very skeptical we have the right group running things to accomplish this. And I'm sure she wants to reign in spending as much as possible and i'm worried she may be taking soundings from Les Reed.
That's exactly my take too. I think KL reigned in the spend on pushing to the next level hence NC moving on and then MoPo. But I don't think she's up for stripping....

However, the loss of NC and his vision and the undoubtedly talented MoPo coupled with Rickie going means there is less desire to hang around amongst our important players. Unfortunately if they don't think the club is going to push to the next level in the near future they will see their ambitions being fulfilled elsewhere.

My concern is the quality and experience of the board we now have and their ability to fend off attacks particularly if the players start muttering about moving on. A new quality manager is perhaps our only chance of keeping them. Perversely a delay in appointing might work in our favour as the board has the opportunity to quite rightly say 'sorry lads but we cannot and will not make any transfer decisions until we have a manger in place.' Although that goes against us on transfers in.
Although I think we are blessed with a down to earth bunch of lads I'm in no doubt that they will be weighing up their options. There a talented bunch who like Poch & NC are probably driven & want to test themselves at the highest level.

Seed I hope you are wrong on KL & the asset stripping. The thought had crossed my mind. But when she brought in Ralph, fresh from his olympic success I thought she might really be on the level about the clubs ambition, however misguided she was in appointing him. And when she started surfacing at our matches I was taken in.

I believe the fact that we spent about £70 mill in two summers, nearly half of which went on Gaston & his Gitness, Dani Osvaldo probably played a part in the final showdown in January. I said back in 2012 that the family are successful business people who wouldn't pour endless amounts of money into a dream without witnessing some sort of tangible evidence of success. This was why I was so adamant that Nigel should work the plank. Under Poch & NC we were progressing incredibly fast, but it was too expensive for her. Shame because most of the hard work had been done, all we needed was a few finishing touches and European qualification would have been ours.

God bless her Dad for saving us, but she blew things big time. The chance of a lifetime....gone!!!
No I said I don't believe she is asset stripping and never have. I just think the consequences of not pushing on could be the disintegration of all we have achieved these last few years. To me the loss of anyone of Luke, Calum, Nat, Jay, Dejan, Adam or Jack would be a step backwards. Anyone else I can live with. I also can live with the loss of Rickie but find it very strange that Liverpool ring on a Thurs announcing their interest but insisting it's done by the end of the weekend. I think that's arrogant. Surely a club of their stature doesn't suddenly decide we must buy that player and it must be now!

It's not over yet and the board do seem to be standing firm on Adam so hopefully I will proven to be terribly wrong in my assessment of them - I hope so!
And Morgan. Obviously!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.[/p][/quote]Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.[/p][/quote]If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)[/p][/quote]Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee. At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces. The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.[/p][/quote]I hope we're not going to play. However, if we are, I also hope we do play hardball. I mean, it would be a poor bit of business if we're serious about progressing next season, and an even worse bit of business if the board and owner are asset-stripping.[/p][/quote]Exactly! In the long term we won't be able to keep every single player,but we can try to fleece these clubs and muck up their planning process as much as possible, which in the process might put off other clubs from launching any potential bids. I personally don't buy this whole asset-stripping line. IMO KL mucked up big time with the NC thing, but i believe that she does want to move the club forward. I'm very skeptical we have the right group running things to accomplish this. And I'm sure she wants to reign in spending as much as possible and i'm worried she may be taking soundings from Les Reed.[/p][/quote]That's exactly my take too. I think KL reigned in the spend on pushing to the next level hence NC moving on and then MoPo. But I don't think she's up for stripping.... However, the loss of NC and his vision and the undoubtedly talented MoPo coupled with Rickie going means there is less desire to hang around amongst our important players. Unfortunately if they don't think the club is going to push to the next level in the near future they will see their ambitions being fulfilled elsewhere. My concern is the quality and experience of the board we now have and their ability to fend off attacks particularly if the players start muttering about moving on. A new quality manager is perhaps our only chance of keeping them. Perversely a delay in appointing might work in our favour as the board has the opportunity to quite rightly say 'sorry lads but we cannot and will not make any transfer decisions until we have a manger in place.' Although that goes against us on transfers in.[/p][/quote]Although I think we are blessed with a down to earth bunch of lads I'm in no doubt that they will be weighing up their options. There a talented bunch who like Poch & NC are probably driven & want to test themselves at the highest level. Seed I hope you are wrong on KL & the asset stripping. The thought had crossed my mind. But when she brought in Ralph, fresh from his olympic success I thought she might really be on the level about the clubs ambition, however misguided she was in appointing him. And when she started surfacing at our matches I was taken in. I believe the fact that we spent about £70 mill in two summers, nearly half of which went on Gaston & his Gitness, Dani Osvaldo probably played a part in the final showdown in January. I said back in 2012 that the family are successful business people who wouldn't pour endless amounts of money into a dream without witnessing some sort of tangible evidence of success. This was why I was so adamant that Nigel should work the plank. Under Poch & NC we were progressing incredibly fast, but it was too expensive for her. Shame because most of the hard work had been done, all we needed was a few finishing touches and European qualification would have been ours. God bless her Dad for saving us, but she blew things big time. The chance of a lifetime....gone!!![/p][/quote]No I said I don't believe she is asset stripping and never have. I just think the consequences of not pushing on could be the disintegration of all we have achieved these last few years. To me the loss of anyone of Luke, Calum, Nat, Jay, Dejan, Adam or Jack would be a step backwards. Anyone else I can live with. I also can live with the loss of Rickie but find it very strange that Liverpool ring on a Thurs announcing their interest but insisting it's done by the end of the weekend. I think that's arrogant. Surely a club of their stature doesn't suddenly decide we must buy that player and it must be now! It's not over yet and the board do seem to be standing firm on Adam so hopefully I will proven to be terribly wrong in my assessment of them - I hope so![/p][/quote]And Morgan. Obviously! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -1

4:04pm Sun 1 Jun 14

cebu blue says...

Nc Fan you are a second class club.
Nc Fan you are a second class club. cebu blue
  • Score: -6

4:06pm Sun 1 Jun 14

THE12THMAN says...

cebu blue wrote:
Nc Fan you are a second class club.
And lets not forget you are a SECOND DIVISION club.
[quote][p][bold]cebu blue[/bold] wrote: Nc Fan you are a second class club.[/p][/quote]And lets not forget you are a SECOND DIVISION club. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 4

4:26pm Sun 1 Jun 14

jls217 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Gents - please - I understand how you all feel when someone posts what I became privy to mainly because I have always felt the same way.

For the first time I am in contact with these people. I don't have any relations, friends etc close to the decision makers. I was, privvy to this - that's all.

I don't want to believe it any more than you do.

I'm beginning to wish I'd said nothing but was so frustrated and wound up when I got home yesterday I decided, foolishly it seems to pre-warn you.

Please just forget I said it if that makes you feel better. Gloat if it all comes to nothing - I'm ready for that because nobody posting here would be happier than me to lose only SRL and one/two more for big money.

In the unlikely event I'm in the prescence of these people again I won't pass anything on if it's going to cause turmoil - life really is too short.
Sorry to sound critical, but please post facts or nothing at all, we are under enough stress as it is. Silly "I know something messages" are worthless, we will know any bad news in good time when it appears on the OS. Then I will believe it.
Fair enough.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Gents - please - I understand how you all feel when someone posts what I became privy to mainly because I have always felt the same way. For the first time I am in contact with these people. I don't have any relations, friends etc close to the decision makers. I was, privvy to this - that's all. I don't want to believe it any more than you do. I'm beginning to wish I'd said nothing but was so frustrated and wound up when I got home yesterday I decided, foolishly it seems to pre-warn you. Please just forget I said it if that makes you feel better. Gloat if it all comes to nothing - I'm ready for that because nobody posting here would be happier than me to lose only SRL and one/two more for big money. In the unlikely event I'm in the prescence of these people again I won't pass anything on if it's going to cause turmoil - life really is too short.[/p][/quote]Sorry to sound critical, but please post facts or nothing at all, we are under enough stress as it is. Silly "I know something messages" are worthless, we will know any bad news in good time when it appears on the OS. Then I will believe it.[/p][/quote]Fair enough. jls217
  • Score: 0

4:34pm Sun 1 Jun 14

knuckle dragger says...

Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno.

Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little

Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.
Do you realise just how annoying your "I know something, but I am not telling" posts are? Pointless and a total waste of space, do you actually think we care about this rubbish? You obviously are just trolling to get a response, you have got one, now run away and play with your iPad.
Calm down. It doesn't suit you.
I know, but doesn't it get up your nose too? I have seen a list of Managers that might get the job, only one or maybe none of them will get the job. I have seen a long list of available players, we may get one or more of them, or maybe none? there are lots of good out of work trainers out there, we may get one or two of them, then again none of them may be picked. One thing for certain is the Christmas Day is on the 25th December this year, unless the World really is going to end.
It reminds me of those very dark days when I used to come on here all hours of the day and night waiting for news and worrying about whether we were going bankrupt or whether someone was coming in to buy us, the agony of the Pinnacle negotiations, and then ... the good news came.

Hoping for a repeat.
Good news is coming! We will soon have a new manager and with money from player sales there will be a sizeable budget available to bring in new players.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Adam has been talismanic for us however if he wants to go we can either hardball him or agree to give him what he wants. Is he pro enough to just get on with the job in hand if we hardball him? Dunno. Apparently one is talking terms this weekend - I've been told who and to whom but I am praying it all turns out to be false and we can relax a little Worrying times ahead but Saints FC will still be there if all nine go - there will nine others coming in.[/p][/quote]Do you realise just how annoying your "I know something, but I am not telling" posts are? Pointless and a total waste of space, do you actually think we care about this rubbish? You obviously are just trolling to get a response, you have got one, now run away and play with your iPad.[/p][/quote]Calm down. It doesn't suit you.[/p][/quote]I know, but doesn't it get up your nose too? I have seen a list of Managers that might get the job, only one or maybe none of them will get the job. I have seen a long list of available players, we may get one or more of them, or maybe none? there are lots of good out of work trainers out there, we may get one or two of them, then again none of them may be picked. One thing for certain is the Christmas Day is on the 25th December this year, unless the World really is going to end.[/p][/quote]It reminds me of those very dark days when I used to come on here all hours of the day and night waiting for news and worrying about whether we were going bankrupt or whether someone was coming in to buy us, the agony of the Pinnacle negotiations, and then ... the good news came. Hoping for a repeat.[/p][/quote]Good news is coming! We will soon have a new manager and with money from player sales there will be a sizeable budget available to bring in new players. knuckle dragger
  • Score: 4

4:54pm Sun 1 Jun 14

milton road says...

I still think neither Luke or Adam are demanding a move I think they are prepared to wait and see who Saints bring in as manager and talk with him first. Then if not satisfied they will go. Ricki was different, he is someone who Saints may have been prepared to deal over with a club that could fulfill a dream end to his career.
As for NC one paper said at the time he left because he wanted sole control and no interference, whilst KL wanted to control the finances more closely.
I think MP would always have gone to a so called 'bigger' club, NC or no NC.
At the moment it is important to get a compentant manager to stabilise things before the end of the world cup. One who is a well known name in international football. Someone who may or may not play exactly the same as Poch but can give the desired win rate to push the club forward.
At this point we need someone with a well known pedigree, that will make a positive impact on the players.
Something we all know and I am hopeful the board will know as well. They need to win back the confidence of the players and fans and how they handle the management appointment will be a big sign of their intent positive or negative.
I still think neither Luke or Adam are demanding a move I think they are prepared to wait and see who Saints bring in as manager and talk with him first. Then if not satisfied they will go. Ricki was different, he is someone who Saints may have been prepared to deal over with a club that could fulfill a dream end to his career. As for NC one paper said at the time he left because he wanted sole control and no interference, whilst KL wanted to control the finances more closely. I think MP would always have gone to a so called 'bigger' club, NC or no NC. At the moment it is important to get a compentant manager to stabilise things before the end of the world cup. One who is a well known name in international football. Someone who may or may not play exactly the same as Poch but can give the desired win rate to push the club forward. At this point we need someone with a well known pedigree, that will make a positive impact on the players. Something we all know and I am hopeful the board will know as well. They need to win back the confidence of the players and fans and how they handle the management appointment will be a big sign of their intent positive or negative. milton road
  • Score: 0

4:54pm Sun 1 Jun 14

redandy10 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Benali76 wrote:
Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.
Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal
The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.
If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)
Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee.
At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces.
The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.
I hope we're not going to play. However, if we are, I also hope we do play hardball. I mean, it would be a poor bit of business if we're serious about progressing next season, and an even worse bit of business if the board and owner are asset-stripping.
Exactly!
In the long term we won't be able to keep every single player,but we can try to fleece these clubs and muck up their planning process as much as possible, which in the process might put off other clubs from launching any potential bids.

I personally don't buy this whole asset-stripping line. IMO KL mucked up big time with the NC thing, but i believe that she does want to move the club forward. I'm very skeptical we have the right group running things to accomplish this. And I'm sure she wants to reign in spending as much as possible and i'm worried she may be taking soundings from Les Reed.
That's exactly my take too. I think KL reigned in the spend on pushing to the next level hence NC moving on and then MoPo. But I don't think she's up for stripping....

However, the loss of NC and his vision and the undoubtedly talented MoPo coupled with Rickie going means there is less desire to hang around amongst our important players. Unfortunately if they don't think the club is going to push to the next level in the near future they will see their ambitions being fulfilled elsewhere.

My concern is the quality and experience of the board we now have and their ability to fend off attacks particularly if the players start muttering about moving on. A new quality manager is perhaps our only chance of keeping them. Perversely a delay in appointing might work in our favour as the board has the opportunity to quite rightly say 'sorry lads but we cannot and will not make any transfer decisions until we have a manger in place.' Although that goes against us on transfers in.
Although I think we are blessed with a down to earth bunch of lads I'm in no doubt that they will be weighing up their options. There a talented bunch who like Poch & NC are probably driven & want to test themselves at the highest level.

Seed I hope you are wrong on KL & the asset stripping. The thought had crossed my mind. But when she brought in Ralph, fresh from his olympic success I thought she might really be on the level about the clubs ambition, however misguided she was in appointing him. And when she started surfacing at our matches I was taken in.

I believe the fact that we spent about £70 mill in two summers, nearly half of which went on Gaston & his Gitness, Dani Osvaldo probably played a part in the final showdown in January. I said back in 2012 that the family are successful business people who wouldn't pour endless amounts of money into a dream without witnessing some sort of tangible evidence of success. This was why I was so adamant that Nigel should work the plank. Under Poch & NC we were progressing incredibly fast, but it was too expensive for her. Shame because most of the hard work had been done, all we needed was a few finishing touches and European qualification would have been ours.

God bless her Dad for saving us, but she blew things big time. The chance of a lifetime....gone!!!
No I said I don't believe she is asset stripping and never have. I just think the consequences of not pushing on could be the disintegration of all we have achieved these last few years. To me the loss of anyone of Luke, Calum, Nat, Jay, Dejan, Adam or Jack would be a step backwards. Anyone else I can live with. I also can live with the loss of Rickie but find it very strange that Liverpool ring on a Thurs announcing their interest but insisting it's done by the end of the weekend. I think that's arrogant. Surely a club of their stature doesn't suddenly decide we must buy that player and it must be now!

It's not over yet and the board do seem to be standing firm on Adam so hopefully I will proven to be terribly wrong in my assessment of them - I hope so!
And Morgan. Obviously!
I can see us losing Luke & Adam, but my big worry is Lovren. He has attracted the attention of quite a few clubs and looks Champions League standard. Has Clyne been linked with anybody? For me he's a key player for our future.

You're spot on about Liverpool's arrogance. I reckon stuff has been going on behind the scenes for a while, now that Rickie is matey with the Mersey muppets through England duty. For me our only hope is to make things extremely difficult for these clubs. They will have a depth chart of transfer targets, if don't back down they'll eventually have to move on to their next target. I know it's clutching at straws, but it might act as somewhat of a deterrent to other clubs, as well as driving the price up. A quality manager and some big talk about buying this summer would also help to allay player's fears.

I know it's impossible to predict, but who do you think we plausibly could lose this summer?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.[/p][/quote]Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.[/p][/quote]If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)[/p][/quote]Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee. At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces. The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.[/p][/quote]I hope we're not going to play. However, if we are, I also hope we do play hardball. I mean, it would be a poor bit of business if we're serious about progressing next season, and an even worse bit of business if the board and owner are asset-stripping.[/p][/quote]Exactly! In the long term we won't be able to keep every single player,but we can try to fleece these clubs and muck up their planning process as much as possible, which in the process might put off other clubs from launching any potential bids. I personally don't buy this whole asset-stripping line. IMO KL mucked up big time with the NC thing, but i believe that she does want to move the club forward. I'm very skeptical we have the right group running things to accomplish this. And I'm sure she wants to reign in spending as much as possible and i'm worried she may be taking soundings from Les Reed.[/p][/quote]That's exactly my take too. I think KL reigned in the spend on pushing to the next level hence NC moving on and then MoPo. But I don't think she's up for stripping.... However, the loss of NC and his vision and the undoubtedly talented MoPo coupled with Rickie going means there is less desire to hang around amongst our important players. Unfortunately if they don't think the club is going to push to the next level in the near future they will see their ambitions being fulfilled elsewhere. My concern is the quality and experience of the board we now have and their ability to fend off attacks particularly if the players start muttering about moving on. A new quality manager is perhaps our only chance of keeping them. Perversely a delay in appointing might work in our favour as the board has the opportunity to quite rightly say 'sorry lads but we cannot and will not make any transfer decisions until we have a manger in place.' Although that goes against us on transfers in.[/p][/quote]Although I think we are blessed with a down to earth bunch of lads I'm in no doubt that they will be weighing up their options. There a talented bunch who like Poch & NC are probably driven & want to test themselves at the highest level. Seed I hope you are wrong on KL & the asset stripping. The thought had crossed my mind. But when she brought in Ralph, fresh from his olympic success I thought she might really be on the level about the clubs ambition, however misguided she was in appointing him. And when she started surfacing at our matches I was taken in. I believe the fact that we spent about £70 mill in two summers, nearly half of which went on Gaston & his Gitness, Dani Osvaldo probably played a part in the final showdown in January. I said back in 2012 that the family are successful business people who wouldn't pour endless amounts of money into a dream without witnessing some sort of tangible evidence of success. This was why I was so adamant that Nigel should work the plank. Under Poch & NC we were progressing incredibly fast, but it was too expensive for her. Shame because most of the hard work had been done, all we needed was a few finishing touches and European qualification would have been ours. God bless her Dad for saving us, but she blew things big time. The chance of a lifetime....gone!!![/p][/quote]No I said I don't believe she is asset stripping and never have. I just think the consequences of not pushing on could be the disintegration of all we have achieved these last few years. To me the loss of anyone of Luke, Calum, Nat, Jay, Dejan, Adam or Jack would be a step backwards. Anyone else I can live with. I also can live with the loss of Rickie but find it very strange that Liverpool ring on a Thurs announcing their interest but insisting it's done by the end of the weekend. I think that's arrogant. Surely a club of their stature doesn't suddenly decide we must buy that player and it must be now! It's not over yet and the board do seem to be standing firm on Adam so hopefully I will proven to be terribly wrong in my assessment of them - I hope so![/p][/quote]And Morgan. Obviously![/p][/quote]I can see us losing Luke & Adam, but my big worry is Lovren. He has attracted the attention of quite a few clubs and looks Champions League standard. Has Clyne been linked with anybody? For me he's a key player for our future. You're spot on about Liverpool's arrogance. I reckon stuff has been going on behind the scenes for a while, now that Rickie is matey with the Mersey muppets through England duty. For me our only hope is to make things extremely difficult for these clubs. They will have a depth chart of transfer targets, if don't back down they'll eventually have to move on to their next target. I know it's clutching at straws, but it might act as somewhat of a deterrent to other clubs, as well as driving the price up. A quality manager and some big talk about buying this summer would also help to allay player's fears. I know it's impossible to predict, but who do you think we plausibly could lose this summer? redandy10
  • Score: 1

4:58pm Sun 1 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

redandy10 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Benali76 wrote:
Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.
Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal
The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.
If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)
Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee.
At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces.
The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.
I hope we're not going to play. However, if we are, I also hope we do play hardball. I mean, it would be a poor bit of business if we're serious about progressing next season, and an even worse bit of business if the board and owner are asset-stripping.
Exactly!
In the long term we won't be able to keep every single player,but we can try to fleece these clubs and muck up their planning process as much as possible, which in the process might put off other clubs from launching any potential bids.

I personally don't buy this whole asset-stripping line. IMO KL mucked up big time with the NC thing, but i believe that she does want to move the club forward. I'm very skeptical we have the right group running things to accomplish this. And I'm sure she wants to reign in spending as much as possible and i'm worried she may be taking soundings from Les Reed.
That's exactly my take too. I think KL reigned in the spend on pushing to the next level hence NC moving on and then MoPo. But I don't think she's up for stripping....

However, the loss of NC and his vision and the undoubtedly talented MoPo coupled with Rickie going means there is less desire to hang around amongst our important players. Unfortunately if they don't think the club is going to push to the next level in the near future they will see their ambitions being fulfilled elsewhere.

My concern is the quality and experience of the board we now have and their ability to fend off attacks particularly if the players start muttering about moving on. A new quality manager is perhaps our only chance of keeping them. Perversely a delay in appointing might work in our favour as the board has the opportunity to quite rightly say 'sorry lads but we cannot and will not make any transfer decisions until we have a manger in place.' Although that goes against us on transfers in.
Although I think we are blessed with a down to earth bunch of lads I'm in no doubt that they will be weighing up their options. There a talented bunch who like Poch & NC are probably driven & want to test themselves at the highest level.

Seed I hope you are wrong on KL & the asset stripping. The thought had crossed my mind. But when she brought in Ralph, fresh from his olympic success I thought she might really be on the level about the clubs ambition, however misguided she was in appointing him. And when she started surfacing at our matches I was taken in.

I believe the fact that we spent about £70 mill in two summers, nearly half of which went on Gaston & his Gitness, Dani Osvaldo probably played a part in the final showdown in January. I said back in 2012 that the family are successful business people who wouldn't pour endless amounts of money into a dream without witnessing some sort of tangible evidence of success. This was why I was so adamant that Nigel should work the plank. Under Poch & NC we were progressing incredibly fast, but it was too expensive for her. Shame because most of the hard work had been done, all we needed was a few finishing touches and European qualification would have been ours.

God bless her Dad for saving us, but she blew things big time. The chance of a lifetime....gone!!!
No I said I don't believe she is asset stripping and never have. I just think the consequences of not pushing on could be the disintegration of all we have achieved these last few years. To me the loss of anyone of Luke, Calum, Nat, Jay, Dejan, Adam or Jack would be a step backwards. Anyone else I can live with. I also can live with the loss of Rickie but find it very strange that Liverpool ring on a Thurs announcing their interest but insisting it's done by the end of the weekend. I think that's arrogant. Surely a club of their stature doesn't suddenly decide we must buy that player and it must be now!

It's not over yet and the board do seem to be standing firm on Adam so hopefully I will proven to be terribly wrong in my assessment of them - I hope so!
And Morgan. Obviously!
I can see us losing Luke & Adam, but my big worry is Lovren. He has attracted the attention of quite a few clubs and looks Champions League standard. Has Clyne been linked with anybody? For me he's a key player for our future.

You're spot on about Liverpool's arrogance. I reckon stuff has been going on behind the scenes for a while, now that Rickie is matey with the Mersey muppets through England duty. For me our only hope is to make things extremely difficult for these clubs. They will have a depth chart of transfer targets, if don't back down they'll eventually have to move on to their next target. I know it's clutching at straws, but it might act as somewhat of a deterrent to other clubs, as well as driving the price up. A quality manager and some big talk about buying this summer would also help to allay player's fears.

I know it's impossible to predict, but who do you think we plausibly could lose this summer?
We could lose you with a bit of luck, where would you go if we paid you enough?
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.[/p][/quote]Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.[/p][/quote]If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)[/p][/quote]Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee. At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces. The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.[/p][/quote]I hope we're not going to play. However, if we are, I also hope we do play hardball. I mean, it would be a poor bit of business if we're serious about progressing next season, and an even worse bit of business if the board and owner are asset-stripping.[/p][/quote]Exactly! In the long term we won't be able to keep every single player,but we can try to fleece these clubs and muck up their planning process as much as possible, which in the process might put off other clubs from launching any potential bids. I personally don't buy this whole asset-stripping line. IMO KL mucked up big time with the NC thing, but i believe that she does want to move the club forward. I'm very skeptical we have the right group running things to accomplish this. And I'm sure she wants to reign in spending as much as possible and i'm worried she may be taking soundings from Les Reed.[/p][/quote]That's exactly my take too. I think KL reigned in the spend on pushing to the next level hence NC moving on and then MoPo. But I don't think she's up for stripping.... However, the loss of NC and his vision and the undoubtedly talented MoPo coupled with Rickie going means there is less desire to hang around amongst our important players. Unfortunately if they don't think the club is going to push to the next level in the near future they will see their ambitions being fulfilled elsewhere. My concern is the quality and experience of the board we now have and their ability to fend off attacks particularly if the players start muttering about moving on. A new quality manager is perhaps our only chance of keeping them. Perversely a delay in appointing might work in our favour as the board has the opportunity to quite rightly say 'sorry lads but we cannot and will not make any transfer decisions until we have a manger in place.' Although that goes against us on transfers in.[/p][/quote]Although I think we are blessed with a down to earth bunch of lads I'm in no doubt that they will be weighing up their options. There a talented bunch who like Poch & NC are probably driven & want to test themselves at the highest level. Seed I hope you are wrong on KL & the asset stripping. The thought had crossed my mind. But when she brought in Ralph, fresh from his olympic success I thought she might really be on the level about the clubs ambition, however misguided she was in appointing him. And when she started surfacing at our matches I was taken in. I believe the fact that we spent about £70 mill in two summers, nearly half of which went on Gaston & his Gitness, Dani Osvaldo probably played a part in the final showdown in January. I said back in 2012 that the family are successful business people who wouldn't pour endless amounts of money into a dream without witnessing some sort of tangible evidence of success. This was why I was so adamant that Nigel should work the plank. Under Poch & NC we were progressing incredibly fast, but it was too expensive for her. Shame because most of the hard work had been done, all we needed was a few finishing touches and European qualification would have been ours. God bless her Dad for saving us, but she blew things big time. The chance of a lifetime....gone!!![/p][/quote]No I said I don't believe she is asset stripping and never have. I just think the consequences of not pushing on could be the disintegration of all we have achieved these last few years. To me the loss of anyone of Luke, Calum, Nat, Jay, Dejan, Adam or Jack would be a step backwards. Anyone else I can live with. I also can live with the loss of Rickie but find it very strange that Liverpool ring on a Thurs announcing their interest but insisting it's done by the end of the weekend. I think that's arrogant. Surely a club of their stature doesn't suddenly decide we must buy that player and it must be now! It's not over yet and the board do seem to be standing firm on Adam so hopefully I will proven to be terribly wrong in my assessment of them - I hope so![/p][/quote]And Morgan. Obviously![/p][/quote]I can see us losing Luke & Adam, but my big worry is Lovren. He has attracted the attention of quite a few clubs and looks Champions League standard. Has Clyne been linked with anybody? For me he's a key player for our future. You're spot on about Liverpool's arrogance. I reckon stuff has been going on behind the scenes for a while, now that Rickie is matey with the Mersey muppets through England duty. For me our only hope is to make things extremely difficult for these clubs. They will have a depth chart of transfer targets, if don't back down they'll eventually have to move on to their next target. I know it's clutching at straws, but it might act as somewhat of a deterrent to other clubs, as well as driving the price up. A quality manager and some big talk about buying this summer would also help to allay player's fears. I know it's impossible to predict, but who do you think we plausibly could lose this summer?[/p][/quote]We could lose you with a bit of luck, where would you go if we paid you enough? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -7

5:03pm Sun 1 Jun 14

search for the truth says...

Adam Lallana wants to go to Liverpool so that he can play top flight football, not accepting that fact will do Southampton no good at all.
An unhappy player will not be able to give his all to Southampton in the coming season.
Adam Lallana wants to go to Liverpool so that he can play top flight football, not accepting that fact will do Southampton no good at all. An unhappy player will not be able to give his all to Southampton in the coming season. search for the truth
  • Score: -7

5:03pm Sun 1 Jun 14

justdreaming says...

Please no failed Premiership managers. Get a fresh start , try YAKIN
Please no failed Premiership managers. Get a fresh start , try YAKIN justdreaming
  • Score: 4

5:05pm Sun 1 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

search for the truth wrote:
Adam Lallana wants to go to Liverpool so that he can play top flight football, not accepting that fact will do Southampton no good at all.
An unhappy player will not be able to give his all to Southampton in the coming season.
Is that what he told you or have you been listening to tittle tattle again?
[quote][p][bold]search for the truth[/bold] wrote: Adam Lallana wants to go to Liverpool so that he can play top flight football, not accepting that fact will do Southampton no good at all. An unhappy player will not be able to give his all to Southampton in the coming season.[/p][/quote]Is that what he told you or have you been listening to tittle tattle again? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -5

5:11pm Sun 1 Jun 14

justdreaming says...

Saints have to "shut up shop" until a new manager is signed. Be fair to whoever it is. Do NOT strip the club of good players and then expect the new manager to do well. If Saints are not careful, they will be playing Pompey again very soon. If all these potential Premiership managers are so good, why are they out of jobs. YAKIN has got the 'runs on the board'
He is the man for Southampton. No failed Premiership managers please, there are plenty of them out there hanging around 'Vulture like' just hoping.
Saints have to "shut up shop" until a new manager is signed. Be fair to whoever it is. Do NOT strip the club of good players and then expect the new manager to do well. If Saints are not careful, they will be playing Pompey again very soon. If all these potential Premiership managers are so good, why are they out of jobs. YAKIN has got the 'runs on the board' He is the man for Southampton. No failed Premiership managers please, there are plenty of them out there hanging around 'Vulture like' just hoping. justdreaming
  • Score: -1

5:14pm Sun 1 Jun 14

justdreaming says...

Lallana might sulk for a couple of games, but he will soon realise that his value will go down if he does not play to his ability. Be tough Saints he has got a contract with you which he was very happy with til his greedy agent got into his ear.
Lallana might sulk for a couple of games, but he will soon realise that his value will go down if he does not play to his ability. Be tough Saints he has got a contract with you which he was very happy with til his greedy agent got into his ear. justdreaming
  • Score: 0

5:19pm Sun 1 Jun 14

florida saint says...

THE12THMAN wrote:
cebu blue wrote:
Nc Fan you are a second class club.
And lets not forget you are a SECOND DIVISION club.
division 4 club..u t s
[quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cebu blue[/bold] wrote: Nc Fan you are a second class club.[/p][/quote]And lets not forget you are a SECOND DIVISION club.[/p][/quote]division 4 club..u t s florida saint
  • Score: -2

5:21pm Sun 1 Jun 14

search for the truth says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
search for the truth wrote:
Adam Lallana wants to go to Liverpool so that he can play top flight football, not accepting that fact will do Southampton no good at all.
An unhappy player will not be able to give his all to Southampton in the coming season.
Is that what he told you or have you been listening to tittle tattle again?
Liverpool Echo today...............
.

Rickie Lambert will be announced as a Liverpool player tomorrow – but the move for his Southampton team-mate Adam Lallana is poised to drag on.

Lambert will become Brendan Rodgers’ first major signing of the summer after passing a medical and agreeing terms on a two-year contract.

The 32-year-old Kirkby-born forward arrived at the city’s Spire Hospital at around nine o’clock yesterday morning and was then taken to Melwood ahead of a flight back down to Southampton later in the afternoon.

The Reds had already agreed a fee in the region of £4million with Southampton, with the transfer completed tomorrow when the relevant paperwork is registered.

However, Liverpool’s pursuit of Lallana has reached an impasse with the Saints digging in their heels over the 26-year-old midfielder.


Adam Lallana with England
Southampton rejected the Reds’ opening bid of £20m and have shown no signs of accepting an improved final offer of £25m.

The Saints are seeking top dollar as they must pass on a 25% of the fee to Lallana’s former club Bournemouth.

Lallana is being courted by several other teams – including Tottenham Hotspur, now managed by his former Southampton boss Mauricio Pochettino – but the player would prefer to play Champions League football at Anfield next season.

Lambert spoke briefly at Liverpool Airport before flying back south following yesterday’s medical.

“The medical went well but as you know I can’t say anything,” he said. “I’ll speak properly about it, hopefully, very shortly.

“It’s been a crazy football year to be honest, the way it’s carrying on.”

Having helped Saints to two promotions and then impressing in the Premier League, he admits he will leave St Mary’s with a heavy heart.

He said: “There’s lots of emotions as you can imagine so it’s something I need to address and obviously I will address all parties when I get the chance.”

Liverpool were keen to conclude negotiations with Lambert heading off to England’s pre-World Cup training camp in the United States today.

With Lallana also part of Roy Hodgson’s 23-man squad , the Reds are likely to face a wait before discovering the outcome of their prolonged pursuit of the midfielder.

Meanwhile, both Lambert and Lallana come up against surprise opposition at the World Cup in the form of Liverpool centre-back Sebastian Coates.

Coates suffered a serious knee injury in August and spent the second half of last season back home in Uruguay on loan at Nacional to continue his rehabilitation.

And a clutch of performances in recent weeks has been enough to earn Coates a place in Uruguay’s World Cup squad along with Luis Suarez.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]search for the truth[/bold] wrote: Adam Lallana wants to go to Liverpool so that he can play top flight football, not accepting that fact will do Southampton no good at all. An unhappy player will not be able to give his all to Southampton in the coming season.[/p][/quote]Is that what he told you or have you been listening to tittle tattle again?[/p][/quote]Liverpool Echo today............... . Rickie Lambert will be announced as a Liverpool player tomorrow – but the move for his Southampton team-mate Adam Lallana is poised to drag on. Lambert will become Brendan Rodgers’ first major signing of the summer after passing a medical and agreeing terms on a two-year contract. The 32-year-old Kirkby-born forward arrived at the city’s Spire Hospital at around nine o’clock yesterday morning and was then taken to Melwood ahead of a flight back down to Southampton later in the afternoon. The Reds had already agreed a fee in the region of £4million with Southampton, with the transfer completed tomorrow when the relevant paperwork is registered. However, Liverpool’s pursuit of Lallana has reached an impasse with the Saints digging in their heels over the 26-year-old midfielder. Adam Lallana with England Southampton rejected the Reds’ opening bid of £20m and have shown no signs of accepting an improved final offer of £25m. The Saints are seeking top dollar as they must pass on a 25% of the fee to Lallana’s former club Bournemouth. Lallana is being courted by several other teams – including Tottenham Hotspur, now managed by his former Southampton boss Mauricio Pochettino – but the player would prefer to play Champions League football at Anfield next season. Lambert spoke briefly at Liverpool Airport before flying back south following yesterday’s medical. “The medical went well but as you know I can’t say anything,” he said. “I’ll speak properly about it, hopefully, very shortly. “It’s been a crazy football year to be honest, the way it’s carrying on.” Having helped Saints to two promotions and then impressing in the Premier League, he admits he will leave St Mary’s with a heavy heart. He said: “There’s lots of emotions as you can imagine so it’s something I need to address and obviously I will address all parties when I get the chance.” Liverpool were keen to conclude negotiations with Lambert heading off to England’s pre-World Cup training camp in the United States today. With Lallana also part of Roy Hodgson’s 23-man squad , the Reds are likely to face a wait before discovering the outcome of their prolonged pursuit of the midfielder. Meanwhile, both Lambert and Lallana come up against surprise opposition at the World Cup in the form of Liverpool centre-back Sebastian Coates. Coates suffered a serious knee injury in August and spent the second half of last season back home in Uruguay on loan at Nacional to continue his rehabilitation. And a clutch of performances in recent weeks has been enough to earn Coates a place in Uruguay’s World Cup squad along with Luis Suarez. search for the truth
  • Score: -2

5:23pm Sun 1 Jun 14

florida saint says...

THE12THMAN wrote:
promised land wrote:
Jls217. I've noticed you come out with this, so called inside information before only to be way off the mark. In the run-up to Poch leaving you were saying " don't worry Poch is going nowhere and a announcement will be made by the club tomorrow". Week later, he became spurs manager.
I see you for what you are. A wind-up merchant !
He sounds like an ill informed wind up merchant to me!
where is your club located as im struggling to find you... u t s
[quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]promised land[/bold] wrote: Jls217. I've noticed you come out with this, so called inside information before only to be way off the mark. In the run-up to Poch leaving you were saying " don't worry Poch is going nowhere and a announcement will be made by the club tomorrow". Week later, he became spurs manager. I see you for what you are. A wind-up merchant ![/p][/quote]He sounds like an ill informed wind up merchant to me![/p][/quote]where is your club located as im struggling to find you... u t s florida saint
  • Score: 0

5:36pm Sun 1 Jun 14

Costa Baz says...

I'm not a follower of Twitter, but have just read that Tim Koeman, son of Ronald, has started following the Saints official twitter account.

May mean nothing, as he has now also started following Spuds.

Lining up his dad's next job, when MP gets sacked?
I'm not a follower of Twitter, but have just read that Tim Koeman, son of Ronald, has started following the Saints official twitter account. May mean nothing, as he has now also started following Spuds. Lining up his dad's next job, when MP gets sacked? Costa Baz
  • Score: 4

5:47pm Sun 1 Jun 14

redandy10 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Benali76 wrote:
Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.
Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal
The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.
If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)
Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee.
At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces.
The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.
I hope we're not going to play. However, if we are, I also hope we do play hardball. I mean, it would be a poor bit of business if we're serious about progressing next season, and an even worse bit of business if the board and owner are asset-stripping.
Exactly!
In the long term we won't be able to keep every single player,but we can try to fleece these clubs and muck up their planning process as much as possible, which in the process might put off other clubs from launching any potential bids.

I personally don't buy this whole asset-stripping line. IMO KL mucked up big time with the NC thing, but i believe that she does want to move the club forward. I'm very skeptical we have the right group running things to accomplish this. And I'm sure she wants to reign in spending as much as possible and i'm worried she may be taking soundings from Les Reed.
That's exactly my take too. I think KL reigned in the spend on pushing to the next level hence NC moving on and then MoPo. But I don't think she's up for stripping....

However, the loss of NC and his vision and the undoubtedly talented MoPo coupled with Rickie going means there is less desire to hang around amongst our important players. Unfortunately if they don't think the club is going to push to the next level in the near future they will see their ambitions being fulfilled elsewhere.

My concern is the quality and experience of the board we now have and their ability to fend off attacks particularly if the players start muttering about moving on. A new quality manager is perhaps our only chance of keeping them. Perversely a delay in appointing might work in our favour as the board has the opportunity to quite rightly say 'sorry lads but we cannot and will not make any transfer decisions until we have a manger in place.' Although that goes against us on transfers in.
Although I think we are blessed with a down to earth bunch of lads I'm in no doubt that they will be weighing up their options. There a talented bunch who like Poch & NC are probably driven & want to test themselves at the highest level.

Seed I hope you are wrong on KL & the asset stripping. The thought had crossed my mind. But when she brought in Ralph, fresh from his olympic success I thought she might really be on the level about the clubs ambition, however misguided she was in appointing him. And when she started surfacing at our matches I was taken in.

I believe the fact that we spent about £70 mill in two summers, nearly half of which went on Gaston & his Gitness, Dani Osvaldo probably played a part in the final showdown in January. I said back in 2012 that the family are successful business people who wouldn't pour endless amounts of money into a dream without witnessing some sort of tangible evidence of success. This was why I was so adamant that Nigel should work the plank. Under Poch & NC we were progressing incredibly fast, but it was too expensive for her. Shame because most of the hard work had been done, all we needed was a few finishing touches and European qualification would have been ours.

God bless her Dad for saving us, but she blew things big time. The chance of a lifetime....gone!!!
No I said I don't believe she is asset stripping and never have. I just think the consequences of not pushing on could be the disintegration of all we have achieved these last few years. To me the loss of anyone of Luke, Calum, Nat, Jay, Dejan, Adam or Jack would be a step backwards. Anyone else I can live with. I also can live with the loss of Rickie but find it very strange that Liverpool ring on a Thurs announcing their interest but insisting it's done by the end of the weekend. I think that's arrogant. Surely a club of their stature doesn't suddenly decide we must buy that player and it must be now!

It's not over yet and the board do seem to be standing firm on Adam so hopefully I will proven to be terribly wrong in my assessment of them - I hope so!
And Morgan. Obviously!
I can see us losing Luke & Adam, but my big worry is Lovren. He has attracted the attention of quite a few clubs and looks Champions League standard. Has Clyne been linked with anybody? For me he's a key player for our future.

You're spot on about Liverpool's arrogance. I reckon stuff has been going on behind the scenes for a while, now that Rickie is matey with the Mersey muppets through England duty. For me our only hope is to make things extremely difficult for these clubs. They will have a depth chart of transfer targets, if don't back down they'll eventually have to move on to their next target. I know it's clutching at straws, but it might act as somewhat of a deterrent to other clubs, as well as driving the price up. A quality manager and some big talk about buying this summer would also help to allay player's fears.

I know it's impossible to predict, but who do you think we plausibly could lose this summer?
We could lose you with a bit of luck, where would you go if we paid you enough?
Whatever you say Arfer! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Same old SPITEFUL Osprey.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.[/p][/quote]Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.[/p][/quote]If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)[/p][/quote]Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee. At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces. The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.[/p][/quote]I hope we're not going to play. However, if we are, I also hope we do play hardball. I mean, it would be a poor bit of business if we're serious about progressing next season, and an even worse bit of business if the board and owner are asset-stripping.[/p][/quote]Exactly! In the long term we won't be able to keep every single player,but we can try to fleece these clubs and muck up their planning process as much as possible, which in the process might put off other clubs from launching any potential bids. I personally don't buy this whole asset-stripping line. IMO KL mucked up big time with the NC thing, but i believe that she does want to move the club forward. I'm very skeptical we have the right group running things to accomplish this. And I'm sure she wants to reign in spending as much as possible and i'm worried she may be taking soundings from Les Reed.[/p][/quote]That's exactly my take too. I think KL reigned in the spend on pushing to the next level hence NC moving on and then MoPo. But I don't think she's up for stripping.... However, the loss of NC and his vision and the undoubtedly talented MoPo coupled with Rickie going means there is less desire to hang around amongst our important players. Unfortunately if they don't think the club is going to push to the next level in the near future they will see their ambitions being fulfilled elsewhere. My concern is the quality and experience of the board we now have and their ability to fend off attacks particularly if the players start muttering about moving on. A new quality manager is perhaps our only chance of keeping them. Perversely a delay in appointing might work in our favour as the board has the opportunity to quite rightly say 'sorry lads but we cannot and will not make any transfer decisions until we have a manger in place.' Although that goes against us on transfers in.[/p][/quote]Although I think we are blessed with a down to earth bunch of lads I'm in no doubt that they will be weighing up their options. There a talented bunch who like Poch & NC are probably driven & want to test themselves at the highest level. Seed I hope you are wrong on KL & the asset stripping. The thought had crossed my mind. But when she brought in Ralph, fresh from his olympic success I thought she might really be on the level about the clubs ambition, however misguided she was in appointing him. And when she started surfacing at our matches I was taken in. I believe the fact that we spent about £70 mill in two summers, nearly half of which went on Gaston & his Gitness, Dani Osvaldo probably played a part in the final showdown in January. I said back in 2012 that the family are successful business people who wouldn't pour endless amounts of money into a dream without witnessing some sort of tangible evidence of success. This was why I was so adamant that Nigel should work the plank. Under Poch & NC we were progressing incredibly fast, but it was too expensive for her. Shame because most of the hard work had been done, all we needed was a few finishing touches and European qualification would have been ours. God bless her Dad for saving us, but she blew things big time. The chance of a lifetime....gone!!![/p][/quote]No I said I don't believe she is asset stripping and never have. I just think the consequences of not pushing on could be the disintegration of all we have achieved these last few years. To me the loss of anyone of Luke, Calum, Nat, Jay, Dejan, Adam or Jack would be a step backwards. Anyone else I can live with. I also can live with the loss of Rickie but find it very strange that Liverpool ring on a Thurs announcing their interest but insisting it's done by the end of the weekend. I think that's arrogant. Surely a club of their stature doesn't suddenly decide we must buy that player and it must be now! It's not over yet and the board do seem to be standing firm on Adam so hopefully I will proven to be terribly wrong in my assessment of them - I hope so![/p][/quote]And Morgan. Obviously![/p][/quote]I can see us losing Luke & Adam, but my big worry is Lovren. He has attracted the attention of quite a few clubs and looks Champions League standard. Has Clyne been linked with anybody? For me he's a key player for our future. You're spot on about Liverpool's arrogance. I reckon stuff has been going on behind the scenes for a while, now that Rickie is matey with the Mersey muppets through England duty. For me our only hope is to make things extremely difficult for these clubs. They will have a depth chart of transfer targets, if don't back down they'll eventually have to move on to their next target. I know it's clutching at straws, but it might act as somewhat of a deterrent to other clubs, as well as driving the price up. A quality manager and some big talk about buying this summer would also help to allay player's fears. I know it's impossible to predict, but who do you think we plausibly could lose this summer?[/p][/quote]We could lose you with a bit of luck, where would you go if we paid you enough?[/p][/quote]Whatever you say Arfer! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Same old SPITEFUL Osprey. redandy10
  • Score: 5

5:52pm Sun 1 Jun 14

saintand266 says...

If we do sell Adam and Luke we could always get Guly back to replace Adam if he hasn't been snapped up yet and maybe break the bank to tempt Fox back from forest .
If we do sell Adam and Luke we could always get Guly back to replace Adam if he hasn't been snapped up yet and maybe break the bank to tempt Fox back from forest . saintand266
  • Score: 0

5:59pm Sun 1 Jun 14

mickey01 says...

saintand266 wrote:
If we do sell Adam and Luke we could always get Guly back to replace Adam if he hasn't been snapped up yet and maybe break the bank to tempt Fox back from forest .
yea and maybe get branfoot back to manage as well
[quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote: If we do sell Adam and Luke we could always get Guly back to replace Adam if he hasn't been snapped up yet and maybe break the bank to tempt Fox back from forest .[/p][/quote]yea and maybe get branfoot back to manage as well mickey01
  • Score: -1

6:08pm Sun 1 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

redandy10 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Benali76 wrote:
Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.
Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal
The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.
If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)
Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee.
At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces.
The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.
I hope we're not going to play. However, if we are, I also hope we do play hardball. I mean, it would be a poor bit of business if we're serious about progressing next season, and an even worse bit of business if the board and owner are asset-stripping.
Exactly!
In the long term we won't be able to keep every single player,but we can try to fleece these clubs and muck up their planning process as much as possible, which in the process might put off other clubs from launching any potential bids.

I personally don't buy this whole asset-stripping line. IMO KL mucked up big time with the NC thing, but i believe that she does want to move the club forward. I'm very skeptical we have the right group running things to accomplish this. And I'm sure she wants to reign in spending as much as possible and i'm worried she may be taking soundings from Les Reed.
That's exactly my take too. I think KL reigned in the spend on pushing to the next level hence NC moving on and then MoPo. But I don't think she's up for stripping....

However, the loss of NC and his vision and the undoubtedly talented MoPo coupled with Rickie going means there is less desire to hang around amongst our important players. Unfortunately if they don't think the club is going to push to the next level in the near future they will see their ambitions being fulfilled elsewhere.

My concern is the quality and experience of the board we now have and their ability to fend off attacks particularly if the players start muttering about moving on. A new quality manager is perhaps our only chance of keeping them. Perversely a delay in appointing might work in our favour as the board has the opportunity to quite rightly say 'sorry lads but we cannot and will not make any transfer decisions until we have a manger in place.' Although that goes against us on transfers in.
Although I think we are blessed with a down to earth bunch of lads I'm in no doubt that they will be weighing up their options. There a talented bunch who like Poch & NC are probably driven & want to test themselves at the highest level.

Seed I hope you are wrong on KL & the asset stripping. The thought had crossed my mind. But when she brought in Ralph, fresh from his olympic success I thought she might really be on the level about the clubs ambition, however misguided she was in appointing him. And when she started surfacing at our matches I was taken in.

I believe the fact that we spent about £70 mill in two summers, nearly half of which went on Gaston & his Gitness, Dani Osvaldo probably played a part in the final showdown in January. I said back in 2012 that the family are successful business people who wouldn't pour endless amounts of money into a dream without witnessing some sort of tangible evidence of success. This was why I was so adamant that Nigel should work the plank. Under Poch & NC we were progressing incredibly fast, but it was too expensive for her. Shame because most of the hard work had been done, all we needed was a few finishing touches and European qualification would have been ours.

God bless her Dad for saving us, but she blew things big time. The chance of a lifetime....gone!!!
No I said I don't believe she is asset stripping and never have. I just think the consequences of not pushing on could be the disintegration of all we have achieved these last few years. To me the loss of anyone of Luke, Calum, Nat, Jay, Dejan, Adam or Jack would be a step backwards. Anyone else I can live with. I also can live with the loss of Rickie but find it very strange that Liverpool ring on a Thurs announcing their interest but insisting it's done by the end of the weekend. I think that's arrogant. Surely a club of their stature doesn't suddenly decide we must buy that player and it must be now!

It's not over yet and the board do seem to be standing firm on Adam so hopefully I will proven to be terribly wrong in my assessment of them - I hope so!
And Morgan. Obviously!
I can see us losing Luke & Adam, but my big worry is Lovren. He has attracted the attention of quite a few clubs and looks Champions League standard. Has Clyne been linked with anybody? For me he's a key player for our future.

You're spot on about Liverpool's arrogance. I reckon stuff has been going on behind the scenes for a while, now that Rickie is matey with the Mersey muppets through England duty. For me our only hope is to make things extremely difficult for these clubs. They will have a depth chart of transfer targets, if don't back down they'll eventually have to move on to their next target. I know it's clutching at straws, but it might act as somewhat of a deterrent to other clubs, as well as driving the price up. A quality manager and some big talk about buying this summer would also help to allay player's fears.

I know it's impossible to predict, but who do you think we plausibly could lose this summer?
We could lose you with a bit of luck, where would you go if we paid you enough?
Whatever you say Arfer! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Same old SPITEFUL Osprey.
If you can't take it don't dish it..........
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.[/p][/quote]Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.[/p][/quote]If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)[/p][/quote]Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee. At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces. The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.[/p][/quote]I hope we're not going to play. However, if we are, I also hope we do play hardball. I mean, it would be a poor bit of business if we're serious about progressing next season, and an even worse bit of business if the board and owner are asset-stripping.[/p][/quote]Exactly! In the long term we won't be able to keep every single player,but we can try to fleece these clubs and muck up their planning process as much as possible, which in the process might put off other clubs from launching any potential bids. I personally don't buy this whole asset-stripping line. IMO KL mucked up big time with the NC thing, but i believe that she does want to move the club forward. I'm very skeptical we have the right group running things to accomplish this. And I'm sure she wants to reign in spending as much as possible and i'm worried she may be taking soundings from Les Reed.[/p][/quote]That's exactly my take too. I think KL reigned in the spend on pushing to the next level hence NC moving on and then MoPo. But I don't think she's up for stripping.... However, the loss of NC and his vision and the undoubtedly talented MoPo coupled with Rickie going means there is less desire to hang around amongst our important players. Unfortunately if they don't think the club is going to push to the next level in the near future they will see their ambitions being fulfilled elsewhere. My concern is the quality and experience of the board we now have and their ability to fend off attacks particularly if the players start muttering about moving on. A new quality manager is perhaps our only chance of keeping them. Perversely a delay in appointing might work in our favour as the board has the opportunity to quite rightly say 'sorry lads but we cannot and will not make any transfer decisions until we have a manger in place.' Although that goes against us on transfers in.[/p][/quote]Although I think we are blessed with a down to earth bunch of lads I'm in no doubt that they will be weighing up their options. There a talented bunch who like Poch & NC are probably driven & want to test themselves at the highest level. Seed I hope you are wrong on KL & the asset stripping. The thought had crossed my mind. But when she brought in Ralph, fresh from his olympic success I thought she might really be on the level about the clubs ambition, however misguided she was in appointing him. And when she started surfacing at our matches I was taken in. I believe the fact that we spent about £70 mill in two summers, nearly half of which went on Gaston & his Gitness, Dani Osvaldo probably played a part in the final showdown in January. I said back in 2012 that the family are successful business people who wouldn't pour endless amounts of money into a dream without witnessing some sort of tangible evidence of success. This was why I was so adamant that Nigel should work the plank. Under Poch & NC we were progressing incredibly fast, but it was too expensive for her. Shame because most of the hard work had been done, all we needed was a few finishing touches and European qualification would have been ours. God bless her Dad for saving us, but she blew things big time. The chance of a lifetime....gone!!![/p][/quote]No I said I don't believe she is asset stripping and never have. I just think the consequences of not pushing on could be the disintegration of all we have achieved these last few years. To me the loss of anyone of Luke, Calum, Nat, Jay, Dejan, Adam or Jack would be a step backwards. Anyone else I can live with. I also can live with the loss of Rickie but find it very strange that Liverpool ring on a Thurs announcing their interest but insisting it's done by the end of the weekend. I think that's arrogant. Surely a club of their stature doesn't suddenly decide we must buy that player and it must be now! It's not over yet and the board do seem to be standing firm on Adam so hopefully I will proven to be terribly wrong in my assessment of them - I hope so![/p][/quote]And Morgan. Obviously![/p][/quote]I can see us losing Luke & Adam, but my big worry is Lovren. He has attracted the attention of quite a few clubs and looks Champions League standard. Has Clyne been linked with anybody? For me he's a key player for our future. You're spot on about Liverpool's arrogance. I reckon stuff has been going on behind the scenes for a while, now that Rickie is matey with the Mersey muppets through England duty. For me our only hope is to make things extremely difficult for these clubs. They will have a depth chart of transfer targets, if don't back down they'll eventually have to move on to their next target. I know it's clutching at straws, but it might act as somewhat of a deterrent to other clubs, as well as driving the price up. A quality manager and some big talk about buying this summer would also help to allay player's fears. I know it's impossible to predict, but who do you think we plausibly could lose this summer?[/p][/quote]We could lose you with a bit of luck, where would you go if we paid you enough?[/p][/quote]Whatever you say Arfer! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Same old SPITEFUL Osprey.[/p][/quote]If you can't take it don't dish it.......... OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -6

6:27pm Sun 1 Jun 14

redandy10 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Benali76 wrote:
Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.
Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal
The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.
If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)
Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee.
At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces.
The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.
I hope we're not going to play. However, if we are, I also hope we do play hardball. I mean, it would be a poor bit of business if we're serious about progressing next season, and an even worse bit of business if the board and owner are asset-stripping.
Exactly!
In the long term we won't be able to keep every single player,but we can try to fleece these clubs and muck up their planning process as much as possible, which in the process might put off other clubs from launching any potential bids.

I personally don't buy this whole asset-stripping line. IMO KL mucked up big time with the NC thing, but i believe that she does want to move the club forward. I'm very skeptical we have the right group running things to accomplish this. And I'm sure she wants to reign in spending as much as possible and i'm worried she may be taking soundings from Les Reed.
That's exactly my take too. I think KL reigned in the spend on pushing to the next level hence NC moving on and then MoPo. But I don't think she's up for stripping....

However, the loss of NC and his vision and the undoubtedly talented MoPo coupled with Rickie going means there is less desire to hang around amongst our important players. Unfortunately if they don't think the club is going to push to the next level in the near future they will see their ambitions being fulfilled elsewhere.

My concern is the quality and experience of the board we now have and their ability to fend off attacks particularly if the players start muttering about moving on. A new quality manager is perhaps our only chance of keeping them. Perversely a delay in appointing might work in our favour as the board has the opportunity to quite rightly say 'sorry lads but we cannot and will not make any transfer decisions until we have a manger in place.' Although that goes against us on transfers in.
Although I think we are blessed with a down to earth bunch of lads I'm in no doubt that they will be weighing up their options. There a talented bunch who like Poch & NC are probably driven & want to test themselves at the highest level.

Seed I hope you are wrong on KL & the asset stripping. The thought had crossed my mind. But when she brought in Ralph, fresh from his olympic success I thought she might really be on the level about the clubs ambition, however misguided she was in appointing him. And when she started surfacing at our matches I was taken in.

I believe the fact that we spent about £70 mill in two summers, nearly half of which went on Gaston & his Gitness, Dani Osvaldo probably played a part in the final showdown in January. I said back in 2012 that the family are successful business people who wouldn't pour endless amounts of money into a dream without witnessing some sort of tangible evidence of success. This was why I was so adamant that Nigel should work the plank. Under Poch & NC we were progressing incredibly fast, but it was too expensive for her. Shame because most of the hard work had been done, all we needed was a few finishing touches and European qualification would have been ours.

God bless her Dad for saving us, but she blew things big time. The chance of a lifetime....gone!!!
No I said I don't believe she is asset stripping and never have. I just think the consequences of not pushing on could be the disintegration of all we have achieved these last few years. To me the loss of anyone of Luke, Calum, Nat, Jay, Dejan, Adam or Jack would be a step backwards. Anyone else I can live with. I also can live with the loss of Rickie but find it very strange that Liverpool ring on a Thurs announcing their interest but insisting it's done by the end of the weekend. I think that's arrogant. Surely a club of their stature doesn't suddenly decide we must buy that player and it must be now!

It's not over yet and the board do seem to be standing firm on Adam so hopefully I will proven to be terribly wrong in my assessment of them - I hope so!
And Morgan. Obviously!
I can see us losing Luke & Adam, but my big worry is Lovren. He has attracted the attention of quite a few clubs and looks Champions League standard. Has Clyne been linked with anybody? For me he's a key player for our future.

You're spot on about Liverpool's arrogance. I reckon stuff has been going on behind the scenes for a while, now that Rickie is matey with the Mersey muppets through England duty. For me our only hope is to make things extremely difficult for these clubs. They will have a depth chart of transfer targets, if don't back down they'll eventually have to move on to their next target. I know it's clutching at straws, but it might act as somewhat of a deterrent to other clubs, as well as driving the price up. A quality manager and some big talk about buying this summer would also help to allay player's fears.

I know it's impossible to predict, but who do you think we plausibly could lose this summer?
We could lose you with a bit of luck, where would you go if we paid you enough?
Whatever you say Arfer! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Same old SPITEFUL Osprey.
If you can't take it don't dish it..........
Lol. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: Call their bluff? That just makes it sound like we are taking a gamble, that we really need to sell but are trying to squeeze a few more quid out of them. No we don't want to sell any of them so why are the echo joining in with the MSM's sales frenzy? The board should have just said we are closed for business while we appoint a new manager. Can we not have at least one player at the would cup.[/p][/quote]Not a gamble B76, the player wants to leave and it is up to the club to get the best deal The only way that Lalanna will still be at Saints next season is if he changes his mind, but the lure of CL football and £100k per week tells me he'll be off and it is the job of the board to squeeze as much as possible out of the buyer.[/p][/quote]If he wants to go that much, Saints might be waiting for him to hand in a transfer request, which would increase the amount Saints would get for him. (10% I believe is the usual amount.)[/p][/quote]Yes, sometimes this has to happen to force the move and it used to be the case that the player would lose his % of the fee. At the end of the day the player, and his parasitic agent, are holding all the aces. The fact that he is on a long contract means that we can play hardball.[/p][/quote]I hope we're not going to play. However, if we are, I also hope we do play hardball. I mean, it would be a poor bit of business if we're serious about progressing next season, and an even worse bit of business if the board and owner are asset-stripping.[/p][/quote]Exactly! In the long term we won't be able to keep every single player,but we can try to fleece these clubs and muck up their planning process as much as possible, which in the process might put off other clubs from launching any potential bids. I personally don't buy this whole asset-stripping line. IMO KL mucked up big time with the NC thing, but i believe that she does want to move the club forward. I'm very skeptical we have the right group running things to accomplish this. And I'm sure she wants to reign in spending as much as possible and i'm worried she may be taking soundings from Les Reed.[/p][/quote]That's exactly my take too. I think KL reigned in the spend on pushing to the next level hence NC moving on and then MoPo. But I don't think she's up for stripping.... However, the loss of NC and his vision and the undoubtedly talented MoPo coupled with Rickie going means there is less desire to hang around amongst our important players. Unfortunately if they don't think the club is going to push to the next level in the near future they will see their ambitions being fulfilled elsewhere. My concern is the quality and experience of the board we now have and their ability to fend off attacks particularly if the players start muttering about moving on. A new quality manager is perhaps our only chance of keeping them. Perversely a delay in appointing might work in our favour as the board has the opportunity to quite rightly say 'sorry lads but we cannot and will not make any transfer decisions until we have a manger in place.' Although that goes against us on transfers in.[/p][/quote]Although I think we are blessed with a down to earth bunch of lads I'm in no doubt that they will be weighing up their options. There a talented bunch who like Poch & NC are probably driven & want to test themselves at the highest level. Seed I hope you are wrong on KL & the asset stripping. The thought had crossed my mind. But when she brought in Ralph, fresh from his olympic success I thought she might really be on the level about the clubs ambition, however misguided she was in appointing him. And when she started surfacing at our matches I was taken in. I believe the fact that we spent about £70 mill in two summers, nearly half of which went on Gaston & his Gitness, Dani Osvaldo probably played a part in the final showdown in January. I said back in 2012 that the family are successful business people who wouldn't pour endless amounts of money into a dream without witnessing some sort of tangible evidence of success. This was why I was so adamant that Nigel should work the plank. Under Poch & NC we were progressing incredibly fast, but it was too expensive for her. Shame because most of the hard work had been done, all we needed was a few finishing touches and European qualification would have been ours. God bless her Dad for saving us, but she blew things big time. The chance of a lifetime....gone!!![/p][/quote]No I said I don't believe she is asset stripping and never have. I just think the consequences of not pushing on could be the disintegration of all we have achieved these last few years. To me the loss of anyone of Luke, Calum, Nat, Jay, Dejan, Adam or Jack would be a step backwards. Anyone else I can live with. I also can live with the loss of Rickie but find it very strange that Liverpool ring on a Thurs announcing their interest but insisting it's done by the end of the weekend. I think that's arrogant. Surely a club of their stature doesn't suddenly decide we must buy that player and it must be now! It's not over yet and the board do seem to be standing firm on Adam so hopefully I will proven to be terribly wrong in my assessment of them - I hope so![/p][/quote]And Morgan. Obviously![/p][/quote]I can see us losing Luke & Adam, but my big worry is Lovren. He has attracted the attention of quite a few clubs and looks Champions League standard. Has Clyne been linked with anybody? For me he's a key player for our future. You're spot on about Liverpool's arrogance. I reckon stuff has been going on behind the scenes for a while, now that Rickie is matey with the Mersey muppets through England duty. For me our only hope is to make things extremely difficult for these clubs. They will have a depth chart of transfer targets, if don't back down they'll eventually have to move on to their next target. I know it's clutching at straws, but it might act as somewhat of a deterrent to other clubs, as well as driving the price up. A quality manager and some big talk about buying this summer would also help to allay player's fears. I know it's impossible to predict, but who do you think we plausibly could lose this summer?[/p][/quote]We could lose you with a bit of luck, where would you go if we paid you enough?[/p][/quote]Whatever you say Arfer! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Same old SPITEFUL Osprey.[/p][/quote]If you can't take it don't dish it..........[/p][/quote]Lol. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz redandy10
  • Score: 1

6:37pm Sun 1 Jun 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Some long posts on here so I will keep it short.
Ralph has said we are looking to push on and qualify for Europe next season, you don't do that be sell your best players.
1st decline all bids (except for Osvaldo)
2nd sign a BIG name manager like Rafa Benitez. That would show ambition and intent.
3rd convince Adam to stay as there is no English player we could replace him with at any price.
4th sign two top strikers (one in part exchange for Osvaldo) cost of £20m.
5th sign the other players we need including a couple out of contract that Rafa would be able to attract.

That will make everyone sit up and realize that Saints mean business, we can afford to do this.

So Katharina, Ralph & Les, don't go cheap, GO GET RAFA NOW, he wants back to Premiership and we will recover his salary in no time.
Give us all a lift, same impact as when we signed Kevin Keegan.
Some long posts on here so I will keep it short. Ralph has said we are looking to push on and qualify for Europe next season, you don't do that be sell your best players. 1st decline all bids (except for Osvaldo) 2nd sign a BIG name manager like Rafa Benitez. That would show ambition and intent. 3rd convince Adam to stay as there is no English player we could replace him with at any price. 4th sign two top strikers (one in part exchange for Osvaldo) cost of £20m. 5th sign the other players we need including a couple out of contract that Rafa would be able to attract. That will make everyone sit up and realize that Saints mean business, we can afford to do this. So Katharina, Ralph & Les, don't go cheap, GO GET RAFA NOW, he wants back to Premiership and we will recover his salary in no time. Give us all a lift, same impact as when we signed Kevin Keegan. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 5

6:49pm Sun 1 Jun 14

Harold K Steptoe says...

Saints won't sell him if they don't want to.......but they'll have no choice when he slaps in a transfer request straight after the World Cup quickly followed by Shaw's. You know it it's true people.
Saints won't sell him if they don't want to.......but they'll have no choice when he slaps in a transfer request straight after the World Cup quickly followed by Shaw's. You know it it's true people. Harold K Steptoe
  • Score: -1

6:49pm Sun 1 Jun 14

hedge end bob says...

search for the truth wrote:
Adam Lallana wants to go to Liverpool so that he can play top flight football, not accepting that fact will do Southampton no good at all. An unhappy player will not be able to give his all to Southampton in the coming season.
Just like a certain diver in a liverpool shirt, what was it ...31 goals. They are pro's playing a game they love. If it was me in that position where i wanted out but not let go by the club, my head would go down and i would work so hard that the offers that woud follow would be IMPOSIBLE to turn down. I feel with the right manager ,a strong board and a few better players in our home grown lads will give us another year to see what happens. what would you rather do, win trophy's with your home town club or some club that don't mean quite the same to you in your heart.???
[quote][p][bold]search for the truth[/bold] wrote: Adam Lallana wants to go to Liverpool so that he can play top flight football, not accepting that fact will do Southampton no good at all. An unhappy player will not be able to give his all to Southampton in the coming season.[/p][/quote]Just like a certain diver in a liverpool shirt, what was it ...31 goals. They are pro's playing a game they love. If it was me in that position where i wanted out but not let go by the club, my head would go down and i would work so hard that the offers that woud follow would be IMPOSIBLE to turn down. I feel with the right manager ,a strong board and a few better players in our home grown lads will give us another year to see what happens. what would you rather do, win trophy's with your home town club or some club that don't mean quite the same to you in your heart.??? hedge end bob
  • Score: 1

7:18pm Sun 1 Jun 14

historyless scum says...

Feeder club 😄
Feeder club 😄 historyless scum
  • Score: -5

7:25pm Sun 1 Jun 14

THE12THMAN says...

historyless scum wrote:
Feeder club 😄
Bottom feeder.
[quote][p][bold]historyless scum[/bold] wrote: Feeder club 😄[/p][/quote]Bottom feeder. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 6

7:46pm Sun 1 Jun 14

Enrico Palazzo says...

historyless scum wrote:
Feeder club 😄
Just think, when you get relegated this season because you have no players and no money, and then the new Premier League B division comes into force you'll find yourselves playing in what... the sixth tier of English football? :o)
[quote][p][bold]historyless scum[/bold] wrote: Feeder club 😄[/p][/quote]Just think, when you get relegated this season because you have no players and no money, and then the new Premier League B division comes into force you'll find yourselves playing in what... the sixth tier of English football? :o) Enrico Palazzo
  • Score: 5

7:59pm Sun 1 Jun 14

el caballo santos101 says...

historyless scum wrote:
Feeder club 😄
yes you would be, but no one wants your players or even knows who they are!
[quote][p][bold]historyless scum[/bold] wrote: Feeder club 😄[/p][/quote]yes you would be, but no one wants your players or even knows who they are! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 2

8:01pm Sun 1 Jun 14

historyless scum says...

Chairman gone, hero striker gone like a shot ( lol, he thinks a lot of you), half the first team gone by the new season & you say we're going to be relegated, ha ha ha, stop getting yourself at it, small feeder club, 😉
Chairman gone, hero striker gone like a shot ( lol, he thinks a lot of you), half the first team gone by the new season & you say we're going to be relegated, ha ha ha, stop getting yourself at it, small feeder club, 😉 historyless scum
  • Score: -6

8:12pm Sun 1 Jun 14

J7junctionseven says...

historyless scum wrote:
Chairman gone, hero striker gone like a shot ( lol, he thinks a lot of you), half the first team gone by the new season & you say we're going to be relegated, ha ha ha, stop getting yourself at it, small feeder club, 😉
Child
[quote][p][bold]historyless scum[/bold] wrote: Chairman gone, hero striker gone like a shot ( lol, he thinks a lot of you), half the first team gone by the new season & you say we're going to be relegated, ha ha ha, stop getting yourself at it, small feeder club, 😉[/p][/quote]Child J7junctionseven
  • Score: -4

8:21pm Sun 1 Jun 14

J7junctionseven says...

cromwell9 wrote:
AFCB
Thats us down the rd ,Feel very sorry for you Saints ,loosing all your players ,and manager,
On the other hand we are looking forward to a nice cheque when you sell Lanna for 30 mill.
Just be grateful you dont have to send it to our Pompy friends,down the rd,
Thick tw@t..."pompy freinds" ........lol...play up bompey!!! sad tw@t
[quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: AFCB Thats us down the rd ,Feel very sorry for you Saints ,loosing all your players ,and manager, On the other hand we are looking forward to a nice cheque when you sell Lanna for 30 mill. Just be grateful you dont have to send it to our Pompy friends,down the rd,[/p][/quote]Thick tw@t..."pompy freinds" ........lol...play up bompey!!! sad tw@t J7junctionseven
  • Score: -5

8:28pm Sun 1 Jun 14

THE12THMAN says...

historyless scum wrote:
Chairman gone, hero striker gone like a shot ( lol, he thinks a lot of you), half the first team gone by the new season & you say we're going to be relegated, ha ha ha, stop getting yourself at it, small feeder club, 😉
Small bottom feeder ( a fish that feeds off the bottom)
[quote][p][bold]historyless scum[/bold] wrote: Chairman gone, hero striker gone like a shot ( lol, he thinks a lot of you), half the first team gone by the new season & you say we're going to be relegated, ha ha ha, stop getting yourself at it, small feeder club, 😉[/p][/quote]Small bottom feeder ( a fish that feeds off the bottom) THE12THMAN
  • Score: 0

8:42pm Sun 1 Jun 14

M.U.CS1 says...

However you lot want to dress it up is up to you, but get in the real world, La La is off no mater what, whether before the World Cup or after. My guess is, it's probably Spurs who will sign him, work it out you fools. Poch is coming back to poach, end of !
However you lot want to dress it up is up to you, but get in the real world, La La is off no mater what, whether before the World Cup or after. My guess is, it's probably Spurs who will sign him, work it out you fools. Poch is coming back to poach, end of ! M.U.CS1
  • Score: -5

8:47pm Sun 1 Jun 14

THE12THMAN says...

historyless scum wrote:
Chairman gone, hero striker gone like a shot ( lol, he thinks a lot of you), half the first team gone by the new season & you say we're going to be relegated, ha ha ha, stop getting yourself at it, small feeder club, 😉
Money gone, half your ground sold to Tescos, a team of misfits the nobody else wants, never mind at least you will still have division 2 football to watch next season. Storyless ****.
[quote][p][bold]historyless scum[/bold] wrote: Chairman gone, hero striker gone like a shot ( lol, he thinks a lot of you), half the first team gone by the new season & you say we're going to be relegated, ha ha ha, stop getting yourself at it, small feeder club, 😉[/p][/quote]Money gone, half your ground sold to Tescos, a team of misfits the nobody else wants, never mind at least you will still have division 2 football to watch next season. Storyless ****. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 4

8:48pm Sun 1 Jun 14

jls217 says...

M.U.CS1 wrote:
However you lot want to dress it up is up to you, but get in the real world, La La is off no mater what, whether before the World Cup or after. My guess is, it's probably Spurs who will sign him, work it out you fools. Poch is coming back to poach, end of !
According to Sky Sports earlier today. Spurs are not interested in chasing Lallana.

Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana.

Wait and see I guess.
[quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: However you lot want to dress it up is up to you, but get in the real world, La La is off no mater what, whether before the World Cup or after. My guess is, it's probably Spurs who will sign him, work it out you fools. Poch is coming back to poach, end of ![/p][/quote]According to Sky Sports earlier today. Spurs are not interested in chasing Lallana. Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana. Wait and see I guess. jls217
  • Score: -2

8:49pm Sun 1 Jun 14

historyless scum says...

THE12THMAN wrote:
historyless scum wrote:
Chairman gone, hero striker gone like a shot ( lol, he thinks a lot of you), half the first team gone by the new season & you say we're going to be relegated, ha ha ha, stop getting yourself at it, small feeder club, 😉
Small bottom feeder ( a fish that feeds off the bottom)
Even the 12th man will be sold, feeder club 😆
[quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]historyless scum[/bold] wrote: Chairman gone, hero striker gone like a shot ( lol, he thinks a lot of you), half the first team gone by the new season & you say we're going to be relegated, ha ha ha, stop getting yourself at it, small feeder club, 😉[/p][/quote]Small bottom feeder ( a fish that feeds off the bottom)[/p][/quote]Even the 12th man will be sold, feeder club 😆 historyless scum
  • Score: -6

8:56pm Sun 1 Jun 14

THE12THMAN says...

historyless scum wrote:
THE12THMAN wrote:
historyless scum wrote:
Chairman gone, hero striker gone like a shot ( lol, he thinks a lot of you), half the first team gone by the new season & you say we're going to be relegated, ha ha ha, stop getting yourself at it, small feeder club, 😉
Small bottom feeder ( a fish that feeds off the bottom)
Even the 12th man will be sold, feeder club 😆
At least we have 12 men bottom feeder and not a team of misfits.
[quote][p][bold]historyless scum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]historyless scum[/bold] wrote: Chairman gone, hero striker gone like a shot ( lol, he thinks a lot of you), half the first team gone by the new season & you say we're going to be relegated, ha ha ha, stop getting yourself at it, small feeder club, 😉[/p][/quote]Small bottom feeder ( a fish that feeds off the bottom)[/p][/quote]Even the 12th man will be sold, feeder club 😆[/p][/quote]At least we have 12 men bottom feeder and not a team of misfits. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 4

9:02pm Sun 1 Jun 14

search for the truth says...

jls217 wrote:
M.U.CS1 wrote:
However you lot want to dress it up is up to you, but get in the real world, La La is off no mater what, whether before the World Cup or after. My guess is, it's probably Spurs who will sign him, work it out you fools. Poch is coming back to poach, end of !
According to Sky Sports earlier today. Spurs are not interested in chasing Lallana.

Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana.

Wait and see I guess.
jls217 says.

Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana.

....................
.

What's rattled your cage .

Just because you don't recognise a great city and a top flight football team don't use derogatory terms to describe my home city you Jerk !!!
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: However you lot want to dress it up is up to you, but get in the real world, La La is off no mater what, whether before the World Cup or after. My guess is, it's probably Spurs who will sign him, work it out you fools. Poch is coming back to poach, end of ![/p][/quote]According to Sky Sports earlier today. Spurs are not interested in chasing Lallana. Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana. Wait and see I guess.[/p][/quote]jls217 says. Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana. .................... . What's rattled your cage . Just because you don't recognise a great city and a top flight football team don't use derogatory terms to describe my home city you Jerk !!! search for the truth
  • Score: -2

9:11pm Sun 1 Jun 14

J7junctionseven says...

M.U.CS1 wrote:
However you lot want to dress it up is up to you, but get in the real world, La La is off no mater what, whether before the World Cup or after. My guess is, it's probably Spurs who will sign him, work it out you fools. Poch is coming back to poach, end of !
"No mater".....ha ha ha ...Is that you lonely sap??....No mates ha ha ha
What a sad tw@t!
[quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: However you lot want to dress it up is up to you, but get in the real world, La La is off no mater what, whether before the World Cup or after. My guess is, it's probably Spurs who will sign him, work it out you fools. Poch is coming back to poach, end of ![/p][/quote]"No mater".....ha ha ha ...Is that you lonely sap??....No mates ha ha ha What a sad tw@t! J7junctionseven
  • Score: 0

9:11pm Sun 1 Jun 14

saintlysoul says...

See why the club may want to wait until after the World Cup in case their performances enhance their value. I've just seen that JWP picked up two awards today at the end of the Toulon tournament in France where he has been with the England under 20 squad - 3rd best player in tournament and best goal in the tournament. How much has that enhanced his value?
See why the club may want to wait until after the World Cup in case their performances enhance their value. I've just seen that JWP picked up two awards today at the end of the Toulon tournament in France where he has been with the England under 20 squad - 3rd best player in tournament and best goal in the tournament. How much has that enhanced his value? saintlysoul
  • Score: 2

9:13pm Sun 1 Jun 14

thinklikealocal says...

search for the truth wrote:
Adam Lallana wants to go to Liverpool so that he can play top flight football, not accepting that fact will do Southampton no good at all.
An unhappy player will not be able to give his all to Southampton in the coming season.
What like Louis S this season? Do try and think about the cr@p you are intending to post....
[quote][p][bold]search for the truth[/bold] wrote: Adam Lallana wants to go to Liverpool so that he can play top flight football, not accepting that fact will do Southampton no good at all. An unhappy player will not be able to give his all to Southampton in the coming season.[/p][/quote]What like Louis S this season? Do try and think about the cr@p you are intending to post.... thinklikealocal
  • Score: -2

9:17pm Sun 1 Jun 14

J7junctionseven says...

search for the truth wrote:
jls217 wrote:
M.U.CS1 wrote:
However you lot want to dress it up is up to you, but get in the real world, La La is off no mater what, whether before the World Cup or after. My guess is, it's probably Spurs who will sign him, work it out you fools. Poch is coming back to poach, end of !
According to Sky Sports earlier today. Spurs are not interested in chasing Lallana.

Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana.

Wait and see I guess.
jls217 says.

Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana.

....................

.

What's rattled your cage .

Just because you don't recognise a great city and a top flight football team don't use derogatory terms to describe my home city you Jerk !!!
F@ck off to the Diverpool Echo then you gobby scouse tw@t if you don't like it.
Up the Toffees!!
[quote][p][bold]search for the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: However you lot want to dress it up is up to you, but get in the real world, La La is off no mater what, whether before the World Cup or after. My guess is, it's probably Spurs who will sign him, work it out you fools. Poch is coming back to poach, end of ![/p][/quote]According to Sky Sports earlier today. Spurs are not interested in chasing Lallana. Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana. Wait and see I guess.[/p][/quote]jls217 says. Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana. .................... . What's rattled your cage . Just because you don't recognise a great city and a top flight football team don't use derogatory terms to describe my home city you Jerk !!![/p][/quote]F@ck off to the Diverpool Echo then you gobby scouse tw@t if you don't like it. Up the Toffees!! J7junctionseven
  • Score: 3

9:18pm Sun 1 Jun 14

jls217 says...

search for the truth wrote:
jls217 wrote:
M.U.CS1 wrote:
However you lot want to dress it up is up to you, but get in the real world, La La is off no mater what, whether before the World Cup or after. My guess is, it's probably Spurs who will sign him, work it out you fools. Poch is coming back to poach, end of !
According to Sky Sports earlier today. Spurs are not interested in chasing Lallana.

Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana.

Wait and see I guess.
jls217 says.

Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana.

....................

.

What's rattled your cage .

Just because you don't recognise a great city and a top flight football team don't use derogatory terms to describe my home city you Jerk !!!
Why not, half the comedians to come from Skiverpool have been doing it for years. Making a living by being derogatory about the place.

Where do you live now BTW?

Got nowt to do with how good the football team is or isn't. Quite enjoy watching them when they're on song and difficult to argue against the long list of honours won.

Spent some time in Skiverpool, living and working - quite liked the place.

Particularly enjoyed being helped to get steaming by Everton fans the night a certain Matt Le God came to town and run rings the reds.

The fact that you're clearly sensitive about it doesn't make me lean toward not aggravating that sensitivity so Skiverpool it is you Jerk!!!!
[quote][p][bold]search for the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: However you lot want to dress it up is up to you, but get in the real world, La La is off no mater what, whether before the World Cup or after. My guess is, it's probably Spurs who will sign him, work it out you fools. Poch is coming back to poach, end of ![/p][/quote]According to Sky Sports earlier today. Spurs are not interested in chasing Lallana. Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana. Wait and see I guess.[/p][/quote]jls217 says. Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana. .................... . What's rattled your cage . Just because you don't recognise a great city and a top flight football team don't use derogatory terms to describe my home city you Jerk !!![/p][/quote]Why not, half the comedians to come from Skiverpool have been doing it for years. Making a living by being derogatory about the place. Where do you live now BTW? Got nowt to do with how good the football team is or isn't. Quite enjoy watching them when they're on song and difficult to argue against the long list of honours won. Spent some time in Skiverpool, living and working - quite liked the place. Particularly enjoyed being helped to get steaming by Everton fans the night a certain Matt Le God came to town and run rings the reds. The fact that you're clearly sensitive about it doesn't make me lean toward not aggravating that sensitivity so Skiverpool it is you Jerk!!!! jls217
  • Score: 1

9:21pm Sun 1 Jun 14

J7junctionseven says...

thinklikealocal wrote:
search for the truth wrote:
Adam Lallana wants to go to Liverpool so that he can play top flight football, not accepting that fact will do Southampton no good at all.
An unhappy player will not be able to give his all to Southampton in the coming season.
What like Louis S this season? Do try and think about the cr@p you are intending to post....
Agree......Make's a nice change!!!....:o)
[quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]search for the truth[/bold] wrote: Adam Lallana wants to go to Liverpool so that he can play top flight football, not accepting that fact will do Southampton no good at all. An unhappy player will not be able to give his all to Southampton in the coming season.[/p][/quote]What like Louis S this season? Do try and think about the cr@p you are intending to post....[/p][/quote]Agree......Make's a nice change!!!....:o) J7junctionseven
  • Score: -1

9:26pm Sun 1 Jun 14

J7junctionseven says...

jls217 wrote:
search for the truth wrote:
jls217 wrote:
M.U.CS1 wrote:
However you lot want to dress it up is up to you, but get in the real world, La La is off no mater what, whether before the World Cup or after. My guess is, it's probably Spurs who will sign him, work it out you fools. Poch is coming back to poach, end of !
According to Sky Sports earlier today. Spurs are not interested in chasing Lallana.

Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana.

Wait and see I guess.
jls217 says.

Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana.

....................


.

What's rattled your cage .

Just because you don't recognise a great city and a top flight football team don't use derogatory terms to describe my home city you Jerk !!!
Why not, half the comedians to come from Skiverpool have been doing it for years. Making a living by being derogatory about the place.

Where do you live now BTW?

Got nowt to do with how good the football team is or isn't. Quite enjoy watching them when they're on song and difficult to argue against the long list of honours won.

Spent some time in Skiverpool, living and working - quite liked the place.

Particularly enjoyed being helped to get steaming by Everton fans the night a certain Matt Le God came to town and run rings the reds.

The fact that you're clearly sensitive about it doesn't make me lean toward not aggravating that sensitivity so Skiverpool it is you Jerk!!!!
BOOM!......Game, Set and Match!
He probably lives in Shirley and has never seen the sky over Anfield.
Plastic
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]search for the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: However you lot want to dress it up is up to you, but get in the real world, La La is off no mater what, whether before the World Cup or after. My guess is, it's probably Spurs who will sign him, work it out you fools. Poch is coming back to poach, end of ![/p][/quote]According to Sky Sports earlier today. Spurs are not interested in chasing Lallana. Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana. Wait and see I guess.[/p][/quote]jls217 says. Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana. .................... . What's rattled your cage . Just because you don't recognise a great city and a top flight football team don't use derogatory terms to describe my home city you Jerk !!![/p][/quote]Why not, half the comedians to come from Skiverpool have been doing it for years. Making a living by being derogatory about the place. Where do you live now BTW? Got nowt to do with how good the football team is or isn't. Quite enjoy watching them when they're on song and difficult to argue against the long list of honours won. Spent some time in Skiverpool, living and working - quite liked the place. Particularly enjoyed being helped to get steaming by Everton fans the night a certain Matt Le God came to town and run rings the reds. The fact that you're clearly sensitive about it doesn't make me lean toward not aggravating that sensitivity so Skiverpool it is you Jerk!!!![/p][/quote]BOOM!......Game, Set and Match! He probably lives in Shirley and has never seen the sky over Anfield. Plastic J7junctionseven
  • Score: 1

9:28pm Sun 1 Jun 14

J7junctionseven says...

historyless scum wrote:
THE12THMAN wrote:
historyless scum wrote:
Chairman gone, hero striker gone like a shot ( lol, he thinks a lot of you), half the first team gone by the new season & you say we're going to be relegated, ha ha ha, stop getting yourself at it, small feeder club, 😉
Small bottom feeder ( a fish that feeds off the bottom)
Even the 12th man will be sold, feeder club 😆
Child....get a fish on it
[quote][p][bold]historyless scum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]historyless scum[/bold] wrote: Chairman gone, hero striker gone like a shot ( lol, he thinks a lot of you), half the first team gone by the new season & you say we're going to be relegated, ha ha ha, stop getting yourself at it, small feeder club, 😉[/p][/quote]Small bottom feeder ( a fish that feeds off the bottom)[/p][/quote]Even the 12th man will be sold, feeder club 😆[/p][/quote]Child....get a fish on it J7junctionseven
  • Score: 2

10:14pm Sun 1 Jun 14

J7junctionseven says...

Enrico Palazzo wrote:
historyless scum wrote:
Feeder club 😄
Just think, when you get relegated this season because you have no players and no money, and then the new Premier League B division comes into force you'll find yourselves playing in what... the sixth tier of English football? :o)
Yeah and they'll have derby games against Eastleigh, Sholing and Southampton B team......and lose them all
[quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]historyless scum[/bold] wrote: Feeder club 😄[/p][/quote]Just think, when you get relegated this season because you have no players and no money, and then the new Premier League B division comes into force you'll find yourselves playing in what... the sixth tier of English football? :o)[/p][/quote]Yeah and they'll have derby games against Eastleigh, Sholing and Southampton B team......and lose them all J7junctionseven
  • Score: 2

10:34pm Sun 1 Jun 14

search for the truth says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
jls217 wrote:
search for the truth wrote:
jls217 wrote:
M.U.CS1 wrote:
However you lot want to dress it up is up to you, but get in the real world, La La is off no mater what, whether before the World Cup or after. My guess is, it's probably Spurs who will sign him, work it out you fools. Poch is coming back to poach, end of !
According to Sky Sports earlier today. Spurs are not interested in chasing Lallana.

Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana.

Wait and see I guess.
jls217 says.

Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana.

....................



.

What's rattled your cage .

Just because you don't recognise a great city and a top flight football team don't use derogatory terms to describe my home city you Jerk !!!
Why not, half the comedians to come from Skiverpool have been doing it for years. Making a living by being derogatory about the place.

Where do you live now BTW?

Got nowt to do with how good the football team is or isn't. Quite enjoy watching them when they're on song and difficult to argue against the long list of honours won.

Spent some time in Skiverpool, living and working - quite liked the place.

Particularly enjoyed being helped to get steaming by Everton fans the night a certain Matt Le God came to town and run rings the reds.

The fact that you're clearly sensitive about it doesn't make me lean toward not aggravating that sensitivity so Skiverpool it is you Jerk!!!!
BOOM!......Game, Set and Match!
He probably lives in Shirley and has never seen the sky over Anfield.
Plastic
I live in Liverpool , a city that has a vibrant night life and plenty to do , unlike Southampton.

The board of Southampton football club seems to be on a suicide path , they've lost their manager ( who was quite good ) , they've lost one of their star goal scorers ( Ricky Lambert ) and your captain ( Adam Lallana ) has stated he would like to join Liverpool and play in the very top flight of football.

All this has happened whilst the club is leaderless ( manager wise ), if any more players leave possible manager would find it very, very difficult neigh impossible to formulate a strong decisive team whilst doubt and uncertainty was rampaging through the remaining players regarding their future and the club's future.

I hate to say this but I can see Southampton being relegated again at the end of next season, because the board of SFC have totally mishandled the whole affair. Your present team was very good and did you proud in the premier league, what lets you down is a incompetent management at the club who should of acted sooner.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]search for the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: However you lot want to dress it up is up to you, but get in the real world, La La is off no mater what, whether before the World Cup or after. My guess is, it's probably Spurs who will sign him, work it out you fools. Poch is coming back to poach, end of ![/p][/quote]According to Sky Sports earlier today. Spurs are not interested in chasing Lallana. Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana. Wait and see I guess.[/p][/quote]jls217 says. Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana. .................... . What's rattled your cage . Just because you don't recognise a great city and a top flight football team don't use derogatory terms to describe my home city you Jerk !!![/p][/quote]Why not, half the comedians to come from Skiverpool have been doing it for years. Making a living by being derogatory about the place. Where do you live now BTW? Got nowt to do with how good the football team is or isn't. Quite enjoy watching them when they're on song and difficult to argue against the long list of honours won. Spent some time in Skiverpool, living and working - quite liked the place. Particularly enjoyed being helped to get steaming by Everton fans the night a certain Matt Le God came to town and run rings the reds. The fact that you're clearly sensitive about it doesn't make me lean toward not aggravating that sensitivity so Skiverpool it is you Jerk!!!![/p][/quote]BOOM!......Game, Set and Match! He probably lives in Shirley and has never seen the sky over Anfield. Plastic[/p][/quote]I live in Liverpool , a city that has a vibrant night life and plenty to do , unlike Southampton. The board of Southampton football club seems to be on a suicide path , they've lost their manager ( who was quite good ) , they've lost one of their star goal scorers ( Ricky Lambert ) and your captain ( Adam Lallana ) has stated he would like to join Liverpool and play in the very top flight of football. All this has happened whilst the club is leaderless ( manager wise ), if any more players leave possible manager would find it very, very difficult neigh impossible to formulate a strong decisive team whilst doubt and uncertainty was rampaging through the remaining players regarding their future and the club's future. I hate to say this but I can see Southampton being relegated again at the end of next season, because the board of SFC have totally mishandled the whole affair. Your present team was very good and did you proud in the premier league, what lets you down is a incompetent management at the club who should of acted sooner. search for the truth
  • Score: -1

10:56pm Sun 1 Jun 14

jls217 says...

search for the truth wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
jls217 wrote:
search for the truth wrote:
jls217 wrote:
M.U.CS1 wrote:
However you lot want to dress it up is up to you, but get in the real world, La La is off no mater what, whether before the World Cup or after. My guess is, it's probably Spurs who will sign him, work it out you fools. Poch is coming back to poach, end of !
According to Sky Sports earlier today. Spurs are not interested in chasing Lallana.

Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana.

Wait and see I guess.
jls217 says.

Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana.

....................




.

What's rattled your cage .

Just because you don't recognise a great city and a top flight football team don't use derogatory terms to describe my home city you Jerk !!!
Why not, half the comedians to come from Skiverpool have been doing it for years. Making a living by being derogatory about the place.

Where do you live now BTW?

Got nowt to do with how good the football team is or isn't. Quite enjoy watching them when they're on song and difficult to argue against the long list of honours won.

Spent some time in Skiverpool, living and working - quite liked the place.

Particularly enjoyed being helped to get steaming by Everton fans the night a certain Matt Le God came to town and run rings the reds.

The fact that you're clearly sensitive about it doesn't make me lean toward not aggravating that sensitivity so Skiverpool it is you Jerk!!!!
BOOM!......Game, Set and Match!
He probably lives in Shirley and has never seen the sky over Anfield.
Plastic
I live in Liverpool , a city that has a vibrant night life and plenty to do , unlike Southampton.

The board of Southampton football club seems to be on a suicide path , they've lost their manager ( who was quite good ) , they've lost one of their star goal scorers ( Ricky Lambert ) and your captain ( Adam Lallana ) has stated he would like to join Liverpool and play in the very top flight of football.

All this has happened whilst the club is leaderless ( manager wise ), if any more players leave possible manager would find it very, very difficult neigh impossible to formulate a strong decisive team whilst doubt and uncertainty was rampaging through the remaining players regarding their future and the club's future.

I hate to say this but I can see Southampton being relegated again at the end of next season, because the board of SFC have totally mishandled the whole affair. Your present team was very good and did you proud in the premier league, what lets you down is a incompetent management at the club who should of acted sooner.
If you had started that tirade with, "In my opinion" I might have bothered reading through it. You do not have a crystal ball any more than anyone else posting on here. Players come and players go we have the financial power to make good any losses.
It seems it's Skiverpool likely to run out of the financial power to sign a player they covet. So much so that according to Sky you've had to look elsewhere to fill the midfield gap. If you want him you're going to have to meet Saints evaluation or you're not going to get him - seems simple enough.
Manager will probably be behind his desk by the end of the week and no matter who is sold there will be top dollar received for him and he'll be replaced - we've been doing it for years - an annoyance but hardly likely to force us into relegation trouble.
You've got a great bloke and a great striker with Ricky Lambert - The management made the decision as much for him and the appreciation for what he's helped get us through these last few years. He deserves the chance to finish with his home team and maybe on a better contract than he could be offered here. Wish him well.
Anything else I can help you with?
Why are you posting on this forum anyway?
If you've been barred from all the Skiverpool ones and need someone to communicate with - well, I can understand that, you do seem to have the knack of alienating those you wish to communicate with. Regardless wish you no harm, just want to ignore you.
[quote][p][bold]search for the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]search for the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: However you lot want to dress it up is up to you, but get in the real world, La La is off no mater what, whether before the World Cup or after. My guess is, it's probably Spurs who will sign him, work it out you fools. Poch is coming back to poach, end of ![/p][/quote]According to Sky Sports earlier today. Spurs are not interested in chasing Lallana. Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana. Wait and see I guess.[/p][/quote]jls217 says. Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana. .................... . What's rattled your cage . Just because you don't recognise a great city and a top flight football team don't use derogatory terms to describe my home city you Jerk !!![/p][/quote]Why not, half the comedians to come from Skiverpool have been doing it for years. Making a living by being derogatory about the place. Where do you live now BTW? Got nowt to do with how good the football team is or isn't. Quite enjoy watching them when they're on song and difficult to argue against the long list of honours won. Spent some time in Skiverpool, living and working - quite liked the place. Particularly enjoyed being helped to get steaming by Everton fans the night a certain Matt Le God came to town and run rings the reds. The fact that you're clearly sensitive about it doesn't make me lean toward not aggravating that sensitivity so Skiverpool it is you Jerk!!!![/p][/quote]BOOM!......Game, Set and Match! He probably lives in Shirley and has never seen the sky over Anfield. Plastic[/p][/quote]I live in Liverpool , a city that has a vibrant night life and plenty to do , unlike Southampton. The board of Southampton football club seems to be on a suicide path , they've lost their manager ( who was quite good ) , they've lost one of their star goal scorers ( Ricky Lambert ) and your captain ( Adam Lallana ) has stated he would like to join Liverpool and play in the very top flight of football. All this has happened whilst the club is leaderless ( manager wise ), if any more players leave possible manager would find it very, very difficult neigh impossible to formulate a strong decisive team whilst doubt and uncertainty was rampaging through the remaining players regarding their future and the club's future. I hate to say this but I can see Southampton being relegated again at the end of next season, because the board of SFC have totally mishandled the whole affair. Your present team was very good and did you proud in the premier league, what lets you down is a incompetent management at the club who should of acted sooner.[/p][/quote]If you had started that tirade with, "In my opinion" I might have bothered reading through it. You do not have a crystal ball any more than anyone else posting on here. Players come and players go we have the financial power to make good any losses. It seems it's Skiverpool likely to run out of the financial power to sign a player they covet. So much so that according to Sky you've had to look elsewhere to fill the midfield gap. If you want him you're going to have to meet Saints evaluation or you're not going to get him - seems simple enough. Manager will probably be behind his desk by the end of the week and no matter who is sold there will be top dollar received for him and he'll be replaced - we've been doing it for years - an annoyance but hardly likely to force us into relegation trouble. You've got a great bloke and a great striker with Ricky Lambert - The management made the decision as much for him and the appreciation for what he's helped get us through these last few years. He deserves the chance to finish with his home team and maybe on a better contract than he could be offered here. Wish him well. Anything else I can help you with? Why are you posting on this forum anyway? If you've been barred from all the Skiverpool ones and need someone to communicate with - well, I can understand that, you do seem to have the knack of alienating those you wish to communicate with. Regardless wish you no harm, just want to ignore you. jls217
  • Score: 2

10:59pm Sun 1 Jun 14

milton road says...

Um Lallana has not said he wants to leave there is no quote saying that. Just newspapers saying that. He has quoted that he didn't necessarily see this as the end of his Saints career. He also said one day he would like to play CL football. He didn't say i am leaving cos i want CL football. There is a difference.
As i said before much of what happens after the world cup depends on the manager we bring in. and the intent we show with our transfer chest. If the manager has a good attacking ethic and handles players well, has money to spend then players may not leave.
The club does not have financial problems, it is the top five of clubs with smallest debt in premiership. This season has brought in an estimated 115 million. The club is one fo the best run clubs in football.
If what is being said in parts of the media that Saints will have a bigger transfer chest than last season and if any player is sold then that money will be added. to the transfer chest. Becasue people like lallana are saying they are happy for things to be sorted after the world cup doesn't necessarily mena they will leave. When we have a manager the like of Adam and Luke will be able to make an informed judgement on where the club is and where it is going.
Um Lallana has not said he wants to leave there is no quote saying that. Just newspapers saying that. He has quoted that he didn't necessarily see this as the end of his Saints career. He also said one day he would like to play CL football. He didn't say i am leaving cos i want CL football. There is a difference. As i said before much of what happens after the world cup depends on the manager we bring in. and the intent we show with our transfer chest. If the manager has a good attacking ethic and handles players well, has money to spend then players may not leave. The club does not have financial problems, it is the top five of clubs with smallest debt in premiership. This season has brought in an estimated 115 million. The club is one fo the best run clubs in football. If what is being said in parts of the media that Saints will have a bigger transfer chest than last season and if any player is sold then that money will be added. to the transfer chest. Becasue people like lallana are saying they are happy for things to be sorted after the world cup doesn't necessarily mena they will leave. When we have a manager the like of Adam and Luke will be able to make an informed judgement on where the club is and where it is going. milton road
  • Score: 2

11:10pm Sun 1 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Les would impress me if he announced the sale of Osvaldo for £8m+

Cutting your loses is as bigger skill as maxing your profits Les.
Les would impress me if he announced the sale of Osvaldo for £8m+ Cutting your loses is as bigger skill as maxing your profits Les. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 1

11:20pm Sun 1 Jun 14

milton road says...

Express reckons Koeman will be offered the job in the next few days with a minimum 50 million transfer chest. Yakin is going to Spartak Moscow.

Koeman left Feyenoord to deal with business commitments a year ago but would jump at the chance of coming to premier league.
Express reckons Koeman will be offered the job in the next few days with a minimum 50 million transfer chest. Yakin is going to Spartak Moscow. Koeman left Feyenoord to deal with business commitments a year ago but would jump at the chance of coming to premier league. milton road
  • Score: 0

1:33am Mon 2 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

search for the truth wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
jls217 wrote:
search for the truth wrote:
jls217 wrote:
M.U.CS1 wrote:
However you lot want to dress it up is up to you, but get in the real world, La La is off no mater what, whether before the World Cup or after. My guess is, it's probably Spurs who will sign him, work it out you fools. Poch is coming back to poach, end of !
According to Sky Sports earlier today. Spurs are not interested in chasing Lallana.

Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana.

Wait and see I guess.
jls217 says.

Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana.

....................




.

What's rattled your cage .

Just because you don't recognise a great city and a top flight football team don't use derogatory terms to describe my home city you Jerk !!!
Why not, half the comedians to come from Skiverpool have been doing it for years. Making a living by being derogatory about the place.

Where do you live now BTW?

Got nowt to do with how good the football team is or isn't. Quite enjoy watching them when they're on song and difficult to argue against the long list of honours won.

Spent some time in Skiverpool, living and working - quite liked the place.

Particularly enjoyed being helped to get steaming by Everton fans the night a certain Matt Le God came to town and run rings the reds.

The fact that you're clearly sensitive about it doesn't make me lean toward not aggravating that sensitivity so Skiverpool it is you Jerk!!!!
BOOM!......Game, Set and Match!
He probably lives in Shirley and has never seen the sky over Anfield.
Plastic
I live in Liverpool , a city that has a vibrant night life and plenty to do , unlike Southampton.

The board of Southampton football club seems to be on a suicide path , they've lost their manager ( who was quite good ) , they've lost one of their star goal scorers ( Ricky Lambert ) and your captain ( Adam Lallana ) has stated he would like to join Liverpool and play in the very top flight of football.

All this has happened whilst the club is leaderless ( manager wise ), if any more players leave possible manager would find it very, very difficult neigh impossible to formulate a strong decisive team whilst doubt and uncertainty was rampaging through the remaining players regarding their future and the club's future.

I hate to say this but I can see Southampton being relegated again at the end of next season, because the board of SFC have totally mishandled the whole affair. Your present team was very good and did you proud in the premier league, what lets you down is a incompetent management at the club who should of acted sooner.
If you want the truth you need to look elsewhere because your post has no credence, you are just responding to the misinformation being pushed out, you must have realised by now that we have been on the end of some pretty negative press reports, based on guesswork and some of which appears to be an attempt to undermine the success that we recently achieved. I cannot say that you are actually incorrect because we don't know the facts or what is going to happen yet. We cannot yet say our Board is getting it wrong as they haven't actually done anything that we know is wrong, they didn't sack the Manager, he walked out for his own reasons, they have let Rickie go, but I haven't got any gripe with that, he deserves the final payout for all that he has done for us, I suspect he has peaked and will not improve, even with a so called "bigger Club".
[quote][p][bold]search for the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]search for the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: However you lot want to dress it up is up to you, but get in the real world, La La is off no mater what, whether before the World Cup or after. My guess is, it's probably Spurs who will sign him, work it out you fools. Poch is coming back to poach, end of ![/p][/quote]According to Sky Sports earlier today. Spurs are not interested in chasing Lallana. Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana. Wait and see I guess.[/p][/quote]jls217 says. Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana. .................... . What's rattled your cage . Just because you don't recognise a great city and a top flight football team don't use derogatory terms to describe my home city you Jerk !!![/p][/quote]Why not, half the comedians to come from Skiverpool have been doing it for years. Making a living by being derogatory about the place. Where do you live now BTW? Got nowt to do with how good the football team is or isn't. Quite enjoy watching them when they're on song and difficult to argue against the long list of honours won. Spent some time in Skiverpool, living and working - quite liked the place. Particularly enjoyed being helped to get steaming by Everton fans the night a certain Matt Le God came to town and run rings the reds. The fact that you're clearly sensitive about it doesn't make me lean toward not aggravating that sensitivity so Skiverpool it is you Jerk!!!![/p][/quote]BOOM!......Game, Set and Match! He probably lives in Shirley and has never seen the sky over Anfield. Plastic[/p][/quote]I live in Liverpool , a city that has a vibrant night life and plenty to do , unlike Southampton. The board of Southampton football club seems to be on a suicide path , they've lost their manager ( who was quite good ) , they've lost one of their star goal scorers ( Ricky Lambert ) and your captain ( Adam Lallana ) has stated he would like to join Liverpool and play in the very top flight of football. All this has happened whilst the club is leaderless ( manager wise ), if any more players leave possible manager would find it very, very difficult neigh impossible to formulate a strong decisive team whilst doubt and uncertainty was rampaging through the remaining players regarding their future and the club's future. I hate to say this but I can see Southampton being relegated again at the end of next season, because the board of SFC have totally mishandled the whole affair. Your present team was very good and did you proud in the premier league, what lets you down is a incompetent management at the club who should of acted sooner.[/p][/quote]If you want the truth you need to look elsewhere because your post has no credence, you are just responding to the misinformation being pushed out, you must have realised by now that we have been on the end of some pretty negative press reports, based on guesswork and some of which appears to be an attempt to undermine the success that we recently achieved. I cannot say that you are actually incorrect because we don't know the facts or what is going to happen yet. We cannot yet say our Board is getting it wrong as they haven't actually done anything that we know is wrong, they didn't sack the Manager, he walked out for his own reasons, they have let Rickie go, but I haven't got any gripe with that, he deserves the final payout for all that he has done for us, I suspect he has peaked and will not improve, even with a so called "bigger Club". OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

2:10am Mon 2 Jun 14

buckie says...

Has any-one read the tweets by Adam Blackmore regarding Lallana? ive just read them i can see the boards ppoint of view but i can also see Lallanas point of view the scouse have made a offer which the board has in my opinion rejected but here is the point how i can see it from lals point of view what has he given us 8 to 10 years good service and the board has supposedly rejected phone calls form our captain to discuss his transfer that to me is childish and showing a lack of respect to a great club servant if he doesn't go is he going to really motivated to play well for us even though he is on a long term contract ? difficult situation that i hope can be resolved to everyones benefit if lallana goes which i believe he will i hope we screw the scouse for every last penny and we get ENGLISH players not cheap foreign imports with no affiliation for the club whatever happens it will be interesting COYS
Has any-one read the tweets by Adam Blackmore regarding Lallana? ive just read them i can see the boards ppoint of view but i can also see Lallanas point of view the scouse have made a offer which the board has in my opinion rejected but here is the point how i can see it from lals point of view what has he given us 8 to 10 years good service and the board has supposedly rejected phone calls form our captain to discuss his transfer that to me is childish and showing a lack of respect to a great club servant if he doesn't go is he going to really motivated to play well for us even though he is on a long term contract ? difficult situation that i hope can be resolved to everyones benefit if lallana goes which i believe he will i hope we screw the scouse for every last penny and we get ENGLISH players not cheap foreign imports with no affiliation for the club whatever happens it will be interesting COYS buckie
  • Score: 0

4:35am Mon 2 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

buckie wrote:
Has any-one read the tweets by Adam Blackmore regarding Lallana? ive just read them i can see the boards ppoint of view but i can also see Lallanas point of view the scouse have made a offer which the board has in my opinion rejected but here is the point how i can see it from lals point of view what has he given us 8 to 10 years good service and the board has supposedly rejected phone calls form our captain to discuss his transfer that to me is childish and showing a lack of respect to a great club servant if he doesn't go is he going to really motivated to play well for us even though he is on a long term contract ? difficult situation that i hope can be resolved to everyones benefit if lallana goes which i believe he will i hope we screw the scouse for every last penny and we get ENGLISH players not cheap foreign imports with no affiliation for the club whatever happens it will be interesting COYS
If he really wants to go, he should do the right thing and put in a transfer request.
[quote][p][bold]buckie[/bold] wrote: Has any-one read the tweets by Adam Blackmore regarding Lallana? ive just read them i can see the boards ppoint of view but i can also see Lallanas point of view the scouse have made a offer which the board has in my opinion rejected but here is the point how i can see it from lals point of view what has he given us 8 to 10 years good service and the board has supposedly rejected phone calls form our captain to discuss his transfer that to me is childish and showing a lack of respect to a great club servant if he doesn't go is he going to really motivated to play well for us even though he is on a long term contract ? difficult situation that i hope can be resolved to everyones benefit if lallana goes which i believe he will i hope we screw the scouse for every last penny and we get ENGLISH players not cheap foreign imports with no affiliation for the club whatever happens it will be interesting COYS[/p][/quote]If he really wants to go, he should do the right thing and put in a transfer request. Rising_Son
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6:28am Mon 2 Jun 14

circa 66 saint says...

Rising_Son wrote:
buckie wrote:
Has any-one read the tweets by Adam Blackmore regarding Lallana? ive just read them i can see the boards ppoint of view but i can also see Lallanas point of view the scouse have made a offer which the board has in my opinion rejected but here is the point how i can see it from lals point of view what has he given us 8 to 10 years good service and the board has supposedly rejected phone calls form our captain to discuss his transfer that to me is childish and showing a lack of respect to a great club servant if he doesn't go is he going to really motivated to play well for us even though he is on a long term contract ? difficult situation that i hope can be resolved to everyones benefit if lallana goes which i believe he will i hope we screw the scouse for every last penny and we get ENGLISH players not cheap foreign imports with no affiliation for the club whatever happens it will be interesting COYS
If he really wants to go, he should do the right thing and put in a transfer request.
And pay the % owed to the b,mouth, that now would show how much champions league football means to him .
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buckie[/bold] wrote: Has any-one read the tweets by Adam Blackmore regarding Lallana? ive just read them i can see the boards ppoint of view but i can also see Lallanas point of view the scouse have made a offer which the board has in my opinion rejected but here is the point how i can see it from lals point of view what has he given us 8 to 10 years good service and the board has supposedly rejected phone calls form our captain to discuss his transfer that to me is childish and showing a lack of respect to a great club servant if he doesn't go is he going to really motivated to play well for us even though he is on a long term contract ? difficult situation that i hope can be resolved to everyones benefit if lallana goes which i believe he will i hope we screw the scouse for every last penny and we get ENGLISH players not cheap foreign imports with no affiliation for the club whatever happens it will be interesting COYS[/p][/quote]If he really wants to go, he should do the right thing and put in a transfer request.[/p][/quote]And pay the % owed to the b,mouth, that now would show how much champions league football means to him . circa 66 saint
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6:52am Mon 2 Jun 14

search for the truth says...

jls217 this might interest you ....................
.........

From your local Daily Echo today

Quote

" But, realistically, Saints’ best chance to make the Premier League’s top six has gone. It is thirty years since the club’s highest-ever league placing, runners-up to a great Liverpool side under Lawrie McMenemy. "

Need I say more

Forever in our shadow ! ! !
jls217 this might interest you .................... ......... From your local Daily Echo today Quote " But, realistically, Saints’ best chance to make the Premier League’s top six has gone. It is thirty years since the club’s highest-ever league placing, runners-up to a great Liverpool side under Lawrie McMenemy. " Need I say more Forever in our shadow ! ! ! search for the truth
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10:44am Mon 2 Jun 14

jls217 says...

circa 66 saint wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
buckie wrote:
Has any-one read the tweets by Adam Blackmore regarding Lallana? ive just read them i can see the boards ppoint of view but i can also see Lallanas point of view the scouse have made a offer which the board has in my opinion rejected but here is the point how i can see it from lals point of view what has he given us 8 to 10 years good service and the board has supposedly rejected phone calls form our captain to discuss his transfer that to me is childish and showing a lack of respect to a great club servant if he doesn't go is he going to really motivated to play well for us even though he is on a long term contract ? difficult situation that i hope can be resolved to everyones benefit if lallana goes which i believe he will i hope we screw the scouse for every last penny and we get ENGLISH players not cheap foreign imports with no affiliation for the club whatever happens it will be interesting COYS
If he really wants to go, he should do the right thing and put in a transfer request.
And pay the % owed to the b,mouth, that now would show how much champions league football means to him .
Might also teach him the lesson that if he has no intention of seeing through the end of a contract no matter what then he shouldn't be signing one in the first place.

Unless the sums add up for Saints - he should do his duty which is to see through his contract to the best of his ability.

Or are we just being old-fashioned in asking people to honour their commitments?
[quote][p][bold]circa 66 saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buckie[/bold] wrote: Has any-one read the tweets by Adam Blackmore regarding Lallana? ive just read them i can see the boards ppoint of view but i can also see Lallanas point of view the scouse have made a offer which the board has in my opinion rejected but here is the point how i can see it from lals point of view what has he given us 8 to 10 years good service and the board has supposedly rejected phone calls form our captain to discuss his transfer that to me is childish and showing a lack of respect to a great club servant if he doesn't go is he going to really motivated to play well for us even though he is on a long term contract ? difficult situation that i hope can be resolved to everyones benefit if lallana goes which i believe he will i hope we screw the scouse for every last penny and we get ENGLISH players not cheap foreign imports with no affiliation for the club whatever happens it will be interesting COYS[/p][/quote]If he really wants to go, he should do the right thing and put in a transfer request.[/p][/quote]And pay the % owed to the b,mouth, that now would show how much champions league football means to him .[/p][/quote]Might also teach him the lesson that if he has no intention of seeing through the end of a contract no matter what then he shouldn't be signing one in the first place. Unless the sums add up for Saints - he should do his duty which is to see through his contract to the best of his ability. Or are we just being old-fashioned in asking people to honour their commitments? jls217
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10:46am Mon 2 Jun 14

jls217 says...

search for the truth wrote:
jls217 this might interest you ....................

.........

From your local Daily Echo today

Quote

" But, realistically, Saints’ best chance to make the Premier League’s top six has gone. It is thirty years since the club’s highest-ever league placing, runners-up to a great Liverpool side under Lawrie McMenemy. "

Need I say more

Forever in our shadow ! ! !
And if my memory serves me right (and it frequently does not) we lost the chance of any involvement in Europe the next season (which may have changed our future completely) because of the behaviour of Skiverpool fans.
Apologize if I'm mistaken and feel free to correct me.
[quote][p][bold]search for the truth[/bold] wrote: jls217 this might interest you .................... ......... From your local Daily Echo today Quote " But, realistically, Saints’ best chance to make the Premier League’s top six has gone. It is thirty years since the club’s highest-ever league placing, runners-up to a great Liverpool side under Lawrie McMenemy. " Need I say more Forever in our shadow ! ! ![/p][/quote]And if my memory serves me right (and it frequently does not) we lost the chance of any involvement in Europe the next season (which may have changed our future completely) because of the behaviour of Skiverpool fans. Apologize if I'm mistaken and feel free to correct me. jls217
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10:52am Mon 2 Jun 14

jls217 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
search for the truth wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
jls217 wrote:
search for the truth wrote:
jls217 wrote:
M.U.CS1 wrote:
However you lot want to dress it up is up to you, but get in the real world, La La is off no mater what, whether before the World Cup or after. My guess is, it's probably Spurs who will sign him, work it out you fools. Poch is coming back to poach, end of !
According to Sky Sports earlier today. Spurs are not interested in chasing Lallana.

Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana.

Wait and see I guess.
jls217 says.

Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana.

....................





.

What's rattled your cage .

Just because you don't recognise a great city and a top flight football team don't use derogatory terms to describe my home city you Jerk !!!
Why not, half the comedians to come from Skiverpool have been doing it for years. Making a living by being derogatory about the place.

Where do you live now BTW?

Got nowt to do with how good the football team is or isn't. Quite enjoy watching them when they're on song and difficult to argue against the long list of honours won.

Spent some time in Skiverpool, living and working - quite liked the place.

Particularly enjoyed being helped to get steaming by Everton fans the night a certain Matt Le God came to town and run rings the reds.

The fact that you're clearly sensitive about it doesn't make me lean toward not aggravating that sensitivity so Skiverpool it is you Jerk!!!!
BOOM!......Game, Set and Match!
He probably lives in Shirley and has never seen the sky over Anfield.
Plastic
I live in Liverpool , a city that has a vibrant night life and plenty to do , unlike Southampton.

The board of Southampton football club seems to be on a suicide path , they've lost their manager ( who was quite good ) , they've lost one of their star goal scorers ( Ricky Lambert ) and your captain ( Adam Lallana ) has stated he would like to join Liverpool and play in the very top flight of football.

All this has happened whilst the club is leaderless ( manager wise ), if any more players leave possible manager would find it very, very difficult neigh impossible to formulate a strong decisive team whilst doubt and uncertainty was rampaging through the remaining players regarding their future and the club's future.

I hate to say this but I can see Southampton being relegated again at the end of next season, because the board of SFC have totally mishandled the whole affair. Your present team was very good and did you proud in the premier league, what lets you down is a incompetent management at the club who should of acted sooner.
If you want the truth you need to look elsewhere because your post has no credence, you are just responding to the misinformation being pushed out, you must have realised by now that we have been on the end of some pretty negative press reports, based on guesswork and some of which appears to be an attempt to undermine the success that we recently achieved. I cannot say that you are actually incorrect because we don't know the facts or what is going to happen yet. We cannot yet say our Board is getting it wrong as they haven't actually done anything that we know is wrong, they didn't sack the Manager, he walked out for his own reasons, they have let Rickie go, but I haven't got any gripe with that, he deserves the final payout for all that he has done for us, I suspect he has peaked and will not improve, even with a so called "bigger Club".
Impressive riposte, thank you.
My repertoire merely runs to -------- off
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]search for the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]search for the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: However you lot want to dress it up is up to you, but get in the real world, La La is off no mater what, whether before the World Cup or after. My guess is, it's probably Spurs who will sign him, work it out you fools. Poch is coming back to poach, end of ![/p][/quote]According to Sky Sports earlier today. Spurs are not interested in chasing Lallana. Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana. Wait and see I guess.[/p][/quote]jls217 says. Also said Skiverpool are looking for alternatives to Lallana. .................... . What's rattled your cage . Just because you don't recognise a great city and a top flight football team don't use derogatory terms to describe my home city you Jerk !!![/p][/quote]Why not, half the comedians to come from Skiverpool have been doing it for years. Making a living by being derogatory about the place. Where do you live now BTW? Got nowt to do with how good the football team is or isn't. Quite enjoy watching them when they're on song and difficult to argue against the long list of honours won. Spent some time in Skiverpool, living and working - quite liked the place. Particularly enjoyed being helped to get steaming by Everton fans the night a certain Matt Le God came to town and run rings the reds. The fact that you're clearly sensitive about it doesn't make me lean toward not aggravating that sensitivity so Skiverpool it is you Jerk!!!![/p][/quote]BOOM!......Game, Set and Match! He probably lives in Shirley and has never seen the sky over Anfield. Plastic[/p][/quote]I live in Liverpool , a city that has a vibrant night life and plenty to do , unlike Southampton. The board of Southampton football club seems to be on a suicide path , they've lost their manager ( who was quite good ) , they've lost one of their star goal scorers ( Ricky Lambert ) and your captain ( Adam Lallana ) has stated he would like to join Liverpool and play in the very top flight of football. All this has happened whilst the club is leaderless ( manager wise ), if any more players leave possible manager would find it very, very difficult neigh impossible to formulate a strong decisive team whilst doubt and uncertainty was rampaging through the remaining players regarding their future and the club's future. I hate to say this but I can see Southampton being relegated again at the end of next season, because the board of SFC have totally mishandled the whole affair. Your present team was very good and did you proud in the premier league, what lets you down is a incompetent management at the club who should of acted sooner.[/p][/quote]If you want the truth you need to look elsewhere because your post has no credence, you are just responding to the misinformation being pushed out, you must have realised by now that we have been on the end of some pretty negative press reports, based on guesswork and some of which appears to be an attempt to undermine the success that we recently achieved. I cannot say that you are actually incorrect because we don't know the facts or what is going to happen yet. We cannot yet say our Board is getting it wrong as they haven't actually done anything that we know is wrong, they didn't sack the Manager, he walked out for his own reasons, they have let Rickie go, but I haven't got any gripe with that, he deserves the final payout for all that he has done for us, I suspect he has peaked and will not improve, even with a so called "bigger Club".[/p][/quote]Impressive riposte, thank you. My repertoire merely runs to -------- off jls217
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