Luke cool over United bid

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Luke Shaw insists talk of a potential £30million move to Manchester United will not distract him from his World Cup duties with England.

Shaw’s remarkable progression reached new heights when he was named in England’s 23-man squad ahead of his boyhood idol Ashley Cole.

The Southampton teenager only made his Premier League debut 18 months ago, but Roy Hodgson saw enough potential in Shaw to ditch Cole, who has now retired from international football.

United have been watching Shaw’s progress closely too. The Red Devils made a £27million bid for the player a week ago, and reports suggest they are willing to offer him a contract worth £100,000 a week.

For a teenager who still lives in academy digs at Southampton and has not passed his driving test, those must be staggering sums to even think about.

But the only thing on Shaw’s mind is realising his dream of playing in a World Cup for England.

When asked if the transfer talk was distracting, Shaw, pictured, said: “No, not at all. It is something that is not even on my mind.

“I am here to play for England and that is all I am focused on.

“It doesn’t bother me one bit.”

News of Cole’s omission leaked the night before the squad was officially announced, but even then Shaw refused to believe he had made the cut.

“I saw Ashley had tweeted, saying he had retired from international football on the Sunday night, but then I didn’t think I was definitely going because there’s Kieran Gibbs as well,” Shaw said modestly.

“I only found out I was in when the squad was announced. I couldn’t sleep on Sunday night. I was with my family and it was a very proud moment for us.

“It was something I had dreamed of, to represent my country at a World Cup. It is the best feeling in the world.”

Shaw, along with the rest of his family – who are nearly all Chelsea fans – have been to Stamford Bridge countless times to sing the left-back’s name from the terraces.
“As I was a Chelsea fan when I was younger I used to go to the games with my mates, and he was someone I idolised (because of) the way he played his game and I looked up to him massively,” said Shaw, who made his England debut against Denmark in March.
“It is a really weird feeling to replace someone I have idolised.
“A few years ago I was sat watching him on TV. It is unbelievable how far I have come.
“I have had two years playing in the Premier League, now I am going to represent my country at the World Cup.”
Although he is almost apologetic for ending Cole’s England days, there is also a sense of confidence about Shaw.
The teenager, who cancelled driving lessons last week so he could relax ahead of England’s training camp in the Algarve, has always had plenty of self-belief.
That is why he has reached the top of the English game despite being released by Chelsea as a youngster because he was too short.
“I think it was only when I was about 14 or 15 and then I got taller and bigger,” he said.

Shaw gives a sense of unease when talking about the fact he was the man whose emergence effectively ended Cole’s 13-year long international career.

That is because he still sees the 33-year-old as an idol.

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6:54am Sat 24 May 14

saintand266 says...

It is becoming clear that Luke is leaving. , while it is a big loss I would rather lose Luke than Lovren . We have two other quality full backs. NC and CC . Clyne covered at left back last season and did a good solid job even if it is his unfavoured position . And besides the deal with manure should include players coming our way Hernandez and Buttner plus 15 million is a pretty good deal in my book .
I think it would be a much harder job trying to replace lovren .
It is becoming clear that Luke is leaving. , while it is a big loss I would rather lose Luke than Lovren . We have two other quality full backs. NC and CC . Clyne covered at left back last season and did a good solid job even if it is his unfavoured position . And besides the deal with manure should include players coming our way Hernandez and Buttner plus 15 million is a pretty good deal in my book . I think it would be a much harder job trying to replace lovren . saintand266
  • Score: -13

7:13am Sat 24 May 14

Blackknight says...

The Metro is reporting that Mauricio Pochettino ‘to remain at Southampton and snub Tottenham’s advances’.

Perhaps Luke and Adam et al might stay.
The Metro is reporting that Mauricio Pochettino ‘to remain at Southampton and snub Tottenham’s advances’. Perhaps Luke and Adam et al might stay. Blackknight
  • Score: 34

7:20am Sat 24 May 14

milton road says...

Yesterday I blogged late, the Guradian who have done their level best to create the idea that all Saints players are leaving and that the Shaw deal with United was a done deal for over a month, headlined that Shaw's deal to United had stalled. That Luke would consider all his options and basically would take some convincing to leave Southampton at this stage. That does not say he will not go but it means it is also not definate he will leave.
Evra has signed a new one year deal with Untied.
Luke strikes me as a loyal level headed guy that won't walk away from Saints without a great deal of thought and consideration. he will not be unaware at any top club he probably would not have been in their first team yet, let alone the World Cup, he has tremendous talent and this club ha given him every opportunity to sign. He is 19 in July he has potential 14 years of top flight football ahead of him, he has time on his side to give Saints another couple of seasons.
I am concerned more about Adam who at 26 has maybe 6 years left at the top and if he is not convinced of the board's plan for the future may think if he is to achieve CL he needs to move now. Ther are a lot of rumours that Poch will honour the last year of his contract, if nothing else, which I think will stabilise tings at least to next summer.
Must admit it is twitchy bum time, but Saints are being said to be putting together a 30 mil transfer kitty., which agian was qouted in a national and may again just be rumour, whilst Spurs is only going to be 50 mil. If i ahd the chance to take Spurs and all the in fighting and politics and disarray and diversive personalities, or stay with Saints who have got a settled side and do have the [potential with a couple of additions to reach Europe, without the tremendous pressure generated on London's main teams, I know where i would rather be and its not Spurs, but then I am biast
Yesterday I blogged late, the Guradian who have done their level best to create the idea that all Saints players are leaving and that the Shaw deal with United was a done deal for over a month, headlined that Shaw's deal to United had stalled. That Luke would consider all his options and basically would take some convincing to leave Southampton at this stage. That does not say he will not go but it means it is also not definate he will leave. Evra has signed a new one year deal with Untied. Luke strikes me as a loyal level headed guy that won't walk away from Saints without a great deal of thought and consideration. he will not be unaware at any top club he probably would not have been in their first team yet, let alone the World Cup, he has tremendous talent and this club ha given him every opportunity to sign. He is 19 in July he has potential 14 years of top flight football ahead of him, he has time on his side to give Saints another couple of seasons. I am concerned more about Adam who at 26 has maybe 6 years left at the top and if he is not convinced of the board's plan for the future may think if he is to achieve CL he needs to move now. Ther are a lot of rumours that Poch will honour the last year of his contract, if nothing else, which I think will stabilise tings at least to next summer. Must admit it is twitchy bum time, but Saints are being said to be putting together a 30 mil transfer kitty., which agian was qouted in a national and may again just be rumour, whilst Spurs is only going to be 50 mil. If i ahd the chance to take Spurs and all the in fighting and politics and disarray and diversive personalities, or stay with Saints who have got a settled side and do have the [potential with a couple of additions to reach Europe, without the tremendous pressure generated on London's main teams, I know where i would rather be and its not Spurs, but then I am biast milton road
  • Score: 20

7:22am Sat 24 May 14

milton road says...

sign should be play ref Luke Shaw.
sign should be play ref Luke Shaw. milton road
  • Score: -3

7:23am Sat 24 May 14

Rising_Son says...

saintand266 wrote:
It is becoming clear that Luke is leaving. , while it is a big loss I would rather lose Luke than Lovren . We have two other quality full backs. NC and CC . Clyne covered at left back last season and did a good solid job even if it is his unfavoured position . And besides the deal with manure should include players coming our way Hernandez and Buttner plus 15 million is a pretty good deal in my book .
I think it would be a much harder job trying to replace lovren .
I didn't see much of Büttner this season, probably because Moyes didn't rate him, and, when I did see him, I didn't think he wasn't very good. No, thanks.

I reckon our most urgent need is for someone clinical up front, and Hernandez might be useful for that, but I don't think we should let Shaw go in order to get him. His value isn't going to drop even if we hold on to him for a couple of years.

Why do you think "It is becoming clear that Luke is leaving"? To me, nothing seems clear.
[quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote: It is becoming clear that Luke is leaving. , while it is a big loss I would rather lose Luke than Lovren . We have two other quality full backs. NC and CC . Clyne covered at left back last season and did a good solid job even if it is his unfavoured position . And besides the deal with manure should include players coming our way Hernandez and Buttner plus 15 million is a pretty good deal in my book . I think it would be a much harder job trying to replace lovren .[/p][/quote]I didn't see much of Büttner this season, probably because Moyes didn't rate him, and, when I did see him, I didn't think he wasn't very good. No, thanks. I reckon our most urgent need is for someone clinical up front, and Hernandez might be useful for that, but I don't think we should let Shaw go in order to get him. His value isn't going to drop even if we hold on to him for a couple of years. Why do you think "It is becoming clear that Luke is leaving"? To me, nothing seems clear. Rising_Son
  • Score: 6

7:46am Sat 24 May 14

Rooflas says...

For his own benefit and development he should remain at saints with poch, lallana and co. Speculation has cooled on poch... He's going no where!
Coy reds
For his own benefit and development he should remain at saints with poch, lallana and co. Speculation has cooled on poch... He's going no where! Coy reds Rooflas
  • Score: 9

8:01am Sat 24 May 14

van Gobbel is a Saint says...

Article on soccerlens has link to picture of mopo at Tottenham's training ground, if true, then that is very concerning.
Article on soccerlens has link to picture of mopo at Tottenham's training ground, if true, then that is very concerning. van Gobbel is a Saint
  • Score: -3

8:03am Sat 24 May 14

saintbobby says...

Blackknight wrote:
The Metro is reporting that Mauricio Pochettino ‘to remain at Southampton and snub Tottenham’s advances’.

Perhaps Luke and Adam et al might stay.
Oh, I know this is another newspaper quote but how nice to read a POSITIVE rumour.

Let's hope this one is true. Read it, and my heart jumped a little!! But, I will still keep my fingers crossed. Go on MoPo, just sign, please..
[quote][p][bold]Blackknight[/bold] wrote: The Metro is reporting that Mauricio Pochettino ‘to remain at Southampton and snub Tottenham’s advances’. Perhaps Luke and Adam et al might stay.[/p][/quote]Oh, I know this is another newspaper quote but how nice to read a POSITIVE rumour. Let's hope this one is true. Read it, and my heart jumped a little!! But, I will still keep my fingers crossed. Go on MoPo, just sign, please.. saintbobby
  • Score: 11

8:28am Sat 24 May 14

NC Fan4Life says...

saintand266 wrote:
It is becoming clear that Luke is leaving. , while it is a big loss I would rather lose Luke than Lovren . We have two other quality full backs. NC and CC . Clyne covered at left back last season and did a good solid job even if it is his unfavoured position . And besides the deal with manure should include players coming our way Hernandez and Buttner plus 15 million is a pretty good deal in my book .
I think it would be a much harder job trying to replace lovren .
I agree, but only if Luke insists that he wants to go, every effort should be made to convince him to stay for at least one more season.
Otherwise £15m plus two quality players would be a good deal. We were after Buttner before so as long as MoPo thinks he would fit in with the squad unity then OK. Hernandez would also be good but Welbeck better.
Then buy a big proven striker (Benteke, Bony or Ba ?) and a top centreback (Steven Caulker ?) and a top Goalkeeper (Reddy or Marshall) and our squad will be complete as long as Adam can then be convinced to stay.
[quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote: It is becoming clear that Luke is leaving. , while it is a big loss I would rather lose Luke than Lovren . We have two other quality full backs. NC and CC . Clyne covered at left back last season and did a good solid job even if it is his unfavoured position . And besides the deal with manure should include players coming our way Hernandez and Buttner plus 15 million is a pretty good deal in my book . I think it would be a much harder job trying to replace lovren .[/p][/quote]I agree, but only if Luke insists that he wants to go, every effort should be made to convince him to stay for at least one more season. Otherwise £15m plus two quality players would be a good deal. We were after Buttner before so as long as MoPo thinks he would fit in with the squad unity then OK. Hernandez would also be good but Welbeck better. Then buy a big proven striker (Benteke, Bony or Ba ?) and a top centreback (Steven Caulker ?) and a top Goalkeeper (Reddy or Marshall) and our squad will be complete as long as Adam can then be convinced to stay. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: -7

8:34am Sat 24 May 14

NC Fan4Life says...

MoPo is the key to keeping Adam & Luke at least for another season or two, with both being English makes them each worth at least double what has been offered.
MoPo is the key to keeping Adam & Luke at least for another season or two, with both being English makes them each worth at least double what has been offered. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 5

8:44am Sat 24 May 14

Stroppy_gramps says...

van Gobbel is a Saint wrote:
Article on soccerlens has link to picture of mopo at Tottenham's training ground, if true, then that is very concerning.
yeah that's Poch.

If he's been doing a LOT of lifting since the end of the season.
[quote][p][bold]van Gobbel is a Saint[/bold] wrote: Article on soccerlens has link to picture of mopo at Tottenham's training ground, if true, then that is very concerning.[/p][/quote]yeah that's Poch. If he's been doing a LOT of lifting since the end of the season. Stroppy_gramps
  • Score: 0

9:05am Sat 24 May 14

Sammy2sheds says...

van Gobbel is a Saint wrote:
Article on soccerlens has link to picture of mopo at Tottenham's training ground, if true, then that is very concerning.
It is defo him but is it spurs training ground
This looks like a "real" leak
Even if he has gone for the interview then the board have to look elsewhere
Let's wait and see but looks bad
[quote][p][bold]van Gobbel is a Saint[/bold] wrote: Article on soccerlens has link to picture of mopo at Tottenham's training ground, if true, then that is very concerning.[/p][/quote]It is defo him but is it spurs training ground This looks like a "real" leak Even if he has gone for the interview then the board have to look elsewhere Let's wait and see but looks bad Sammy2sheds
  • Score: -8

9:21am Sat 24 May 14

Malcombe says...

van Gobble is a Saint.What's the betting the photo has be doctored and MoPo's photo has be super imposed, they can do wonders with technology in the 21st Century, there are some nasty people out there who do not want to see a successful Southampton and it must be stopped at all cost.

there's an awful lot of envy around after MoPo's season and a half, he's been very successful since he arrived as an unknown. I was in Spain for 12 years until last year and followed all Football and I had never heard of him, my Spanish neighbour was avid Fan of Football he too had forgotten him even though he was Managing Espanyol, I do remember the tackle on Owen, he is handsome and looks the part, bonded all the Players and with them created a big family,he has 100% respect from everyone at the Club (sod al the other Vultures and the annoying bald Leech at Tottenham) What is definitely known is Latin people are very family orientated and loyal. At Southampton there was a plan in motion that he and Cortese concocted IMO he will honour it, he's an intelligent man who will of done his research on Spurs after the rumours and the possibility he had been contacted by Spurs perhaps even talking and asking for help to Les Reed who would have all the information on Spurs at his disposal so I'm a born optimist and I am sure and so are thousands possibly millions of Saints Fans throughout the world that everything will fall in our favour and the Vultures, Sharks and Leeches to drown in there sorrows.
van Gobble is a Saint.What's the betting the photo has be doctored and MoPo's photo has be super imposed, they can do wonders with technology in the 21st Century, there are some nasty people out there who do not want to see a successful Southampton and it must be stopped at all cost. there's an awful lot of envy around after MoPo's season and a half, he's been very successful since he arrived as an unknown. I was in Spain for 12 years until last year and followed all Football and I had never heard of him, my Spanish neighbour was avid Fan of Football he too had forgotten him even though he was Managing Espanyol, I do remember the tackle on Owen, he is handsome and looks the part, bonded all the Players and with them created a big family,he has 100% respect from everyone at the Club (sod al the other Vultures and the annoying bald Leech at Tottenham) What is definitely known is Latin people are very family orientated and loyal. At Southampton there was a plan in motion that he and Cortese concocted IMO he will honour it, he's an intelligent man who will of done his research on Spurs after the rumours and the possibility he had been contacted by Spurs perhaps even talking and asking for help to Les Reed who would have all the information on Spurs at his disposal so I'm a born optimist and I am sure and so are thousands possibly millions of Saints Fans throughout the world that everything will fall in our favour and the Vultures, Sharks and Leeches to drown in there sorrows. Malcombe
  • Score: 6

9:24am Sat 24 May 14

dadofmy3sons says...

Confused!
Still no article on the OS about Jason Dodd leaving.
It is only in the media.
Yea I know everyone is going to tell me it is a done deal, but it still puzzles me.

Still do not think any one will be leaving unless they choose to, and then only if we get the best possible deal.
Confused! Still no article on the OS about Jason Dodd leaving. It is only in the media. Yea I know everyone is going to tell me it is a done deal, but it still puzzles me. Still do not think any one will be leaving unless they choose to, and then only if we get the best possible deal. dadofmy3sons
  • Score: 0

9:32am Sat 24 May 14

Santa Retfordia says...

Rising_Son wrote:
saintand266 wrote: It is becoming clear that Luke is leaving. , while it is a big loss I would rather lose Luke than Lovren . We have two other quality full backs. NC and CC . Clyne covered at left back last season and did a good solid job even if it is his unfavoured position . And besides the deal with manure should include players coming our way Hernandez and Buttner plus 15 million is a pretty good deal in my book . I think it would be a much harder job trying to replace lovren .
I didn't see much of Büttner this season, probably because Moyes didn't rate him, and, when I did see him, I didn't think he wasn't very good. No, thanks. I reckon our most urgent need is for someone clinical up front, and Hernandez might be useful for that, but I don't think we should let Shaw go in order to get him. His value isn't going to drop even if we hold on to him for a couple of years. Why do you think "It is becoming clear that Luke is leaving"? To me, nothing seems clear.
Buttner is utter toilet. I think we should (and will) keep Luke.

Hope this helps everyone. Ta.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote: It is becoming clear that Luke is leaving. , while it is a big loss I would rather lose Luke than Lovren . We have two other quality full backs. NC and CC . Clyne covered at left back last season and did a good solid job even if it is his unfavoured position . And besides the deal with manure should include players coming our way Hernandez and Buttner plus 15 million is a pretty good deal in my book . I think it would be a much harder job trying to replace lovren .[/p][/quote]I didn't see much of Büttner this season, probably because Moyes didn't rate him, and, when I did see him, I didn't think he wasn't very good. No, thanks. I reckon our most urgent need is for someone clinical up front, and Hernandez might be useful for that, but I don't think we should let Shaw go in order to get him. His value isn't going to drop even if we hold on to him for a couple of years. Why do you think "It is becoming clear that Luke is leaving"? To me, nothing seems clear.[/p][/quote]Buttner is utter toilet. I think we should (and will) keep Luke. Hope this helps everyone. Ta. Santa Retfordia
  • Score: 5

9:36am Sat 24 May 14

Rooflas says...

Malcombe wrote:
van Gobble is a Saint.What's the betting the photo has be doctored and MoPo's photo has be super imposed, they can do wonders with technology in the 21st Century, there are some nasty people out there who do not want to see a successful Southampton and it must be stopped at all cost.

there's an awful lot of envy around after MoPo's season and a half, he's been very successful since he arrived as an unknown. I was in Spain for 12 years until last year and followed all Football and I had never heard of him, my Spanish neighbour was avid Fan of Football he too had forgotten him even though he was Managing Espanyol, I do remember the tackle on Owen, he is handsome and looks the part, bonded all the Players and with them created a big family,he has 100% respect from everyone at the Club (sod al the other Vultures and the annoying bald Leech at Tottenham) What is definitely known is Latin people are very family orientated and loyal. At Southampton there was a plan in motion that he and Cortese concocted IMO he will honour it, he's an intelligent man who will of done his research on Spurs after the rumours and the possibility he had been contacted by Spurs perhaps even talking and asking for help to Les Reed who would have all the information on Spurs at his disposal so I'm a born optimist and I am sure and so are thousands possibly millions of Saints Fans throughout the world that everything will fall in our favour and the Vultures, Sharks and Leeches to drown in there sorrows.
Thats not mopo in the pic, he's going no where.
[quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: van Gobble is a Saint.What's the betting the photo has be doctored and MoPo's photo has be super imposed, they can do wonders with technology in the 21st Century, there are some nasty people out there who do not want to see a successful Southampton and it must be stopped at all cost. there's an awful lot of envy around after MoPo's season and a half, he's been very successful since he arrived as an unknown. I was in Spain for 12 years until last year and followed all Football and I had never heard of him, my Spanish neighbour was avid Fan of Football he too had forgotten him even though he was Managing Espanyol, I do remember the tackle on Owen, he is handsome and looks the part, bonded all the Players and with them created a big family,he has 100% respect from everyone at the Club (sod al the other Vultures and the annoying bald Leech at Tottenham) What is definitely known is Latin people are very family orientated and loyal. At Southampton there was a plan in motion that he and Cortese concocted IMO he will honour it, he's an intelligent man who will of done his research on Spurs after the rumours and the possibility he had been contacted by Spurs perhaps even talking and asking for help to Les Reed who would have all the information on Spurs at his disposal so I'm a born optimist and I am sure and so are thousands possibly millions of Saints Fans throughout the world that everything will fall in our favour and the Vultures, Sharks and Leeches to drown in there sorrows.[/p][/quote]Thats not mopo in the pic, he's going no where. Rooflas
  • Score: 3

9:37am Sat 24 May 14

Mosin85 says...

If that picture is true then imguessing the boards ambitions do not match Mopo and the players? with may be luke and Lallana leaving? maybe more seeing as a lot of the team want champions league football and have also been linked witha move away to spurs and also liverpool, which is likely seeing as most of the team if not all the first team players are good enough for the champions league which is why it is either push on or drop down league if we are lucky enough stay where we are if replacment buys are as good ( which is not very likely either....... ), personaly, if the boards ambitions where good and wanted to push on then the Spurs job would not be so tempting and the saints would look with all the current talent in the team with around 40 mill spent this summer could make them a champions league team in my opinion, its not like we need a lot to get their only a goal scorer and a couple of back up players 1 needs to be a defender one good enough to push Lovern for his posistion is in theory replacing Fonte, got enough back up every where else ( youth players like Prowse , Sam , Isgrove, reed and Sims looks like a really exciting player too. so if any one leaves its the board.

will miss are lovely football was so entertaining all season
If that picture is true then imguessing the boards ambitions do not match Mopo and the players? with may be luke and Lallana leaving? maybe more seeing as a lot of the team want champions league football and have also been linked witha move away to spurs and also liverpool, which is likely seeing as most of the team if not all the first team players are good enough for the champions league which is why it is either push on or drop down league if we are lucky enough stay where we are if replacment buys are as good ( which is not very likely either....... ), personaly, if the boards ambitions where good and wanted to push on then the Spurs job would not be so tempting and the saints would look with all the current talent in the team with around 40 mill spent this summer could make them a champions league team in my opinion, its not like we need a lot to get their only a goal scorer and a couple of back up players 1 needs to be a defender one good enough to push Lovern for his posistion is in theory replacing Fonte, got enough back up every where else ( youth players like Prowse , Sam , Isgrove, reed and Sims looks like a really exciting player too. so if any one leaves its the board. will miss are lovely football was so entertaining all season Mosin85
  • Score: 0

9:38am Sat 24 May 14

Malcombe says...

van Gobble I have just had a look on that site and you are correct it's definitely MoPo, lets hope that it's his son and a friend behind him and they are going to the Departure Lounge, it really made my stomach churn after what I've just posted
van Gobble I have just had a look on that site and you are correct it's definitely MoPo, lets hope that it's his son and a friend behind him and they are going to the Departure Lounge, it really made my stomach churn after what I've just posted Malcombe
  • Score: -5

9:44am Sat 24 May 14

van Gobbel is a Saint says...

Malcombe wrote:
van Gobble is a Saint.What's the betting the photo has be doctored and MoPo's photo has be super imposed, they can do wonders with technology in the 21st Century, there are some nasty people out there who do not want to see a successful Southampton and it must be stopped at all cost.

there's an awful lot of envy around after MoPo's season and a half, he's been very successful since he arrived as an unknown. I was in Spain for 12 years until last year and followed all Football and I had never heard of him, my Spanish neighbour was avid Fan of Football he too had forgotten him even though he was Managing Espanyol, I do remember the tackle on Owen, he is handsome and looks the part, bonded all the Players and with them created a big family,he has 100% respect from everyone at the Club (sod al the other Vultures and the annoying bald Leech at Tottenham) What is definitely known is Latin people are very family orientated and loyal. At Southampton there was a plan in motion that he and Cortese concocted IMO he will honour it, he's an intelligent man who will of done his research on Spurs after the rumours and the possibility he had been contacted by Spurs perhaps even talking and asking for help to Les Reed who would have all the information on Spurs at his disposal so I'm a born optimist and I am sure and so are thousands possibly millions of Saints Fans throughout the world that everything will fall in our favour and the Vultures, Sharks and Leeches to drown in there sorrows.
I massively hope so. You're spot on he does seem like the type to have a little more loyalty and think there is still work to be done with saints that marks us out as one of the more interesting clubs to be involved with right now. For me, as with others maybe, it's a mix of one minute thinking we have some fantastic players who know and have progressed with the club (and more importantly have a genuine passion for saints), a solid manager and the financial stability that many outside top 4 would desire to then thinking we're not seeing enough leadership direction to defend our gains over recent years and we could end up with near enough 70 odd million in the bank (if the worst we're to happen and ads, shaw, spider, Lovren, mopo left) with a rebuilding job to be done. Guess there are worst problems we could have if it wasn't for Markus but frustrating nonetheless and no matter what we have a club I'm proud to support.
[quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: van Gobble is a Saint.What's the betting the photo has be doctored and MoPo's photo has be super imposed, they can do wonders with technology in the 21st Century, there are some nasty people out there who do not want to see a successful Southampton and it must be stopped at all cost. there's an awful lot of envy around after MoPo's season and a half, he's been very successful since he arrived as an unknown. I was in Spain for 12 years until last year and followed all Football and I had never heard of him, my Spanish neighbour was avid Fan of Football he too had forgotten him even though he was Managing Espanyol, I do remember the tackle on Owen, he is handsome and looks the part, bonded all the Players and with them created a big family,he has 100% respect from everyone at the Club (sod al the other Vultures and the annoying bald Leech at Tottenham) What is definitely known is Latin people are very family orientated and loyal. At Southampton there was a plan in motion that he and Cortese concocted IMO he will honour it, he's an intelligent man who will of done his research on Spurs after the rumours and the possibility he had been contacted by Spurs perhaps even talking and asking for help to Les Reed who would have all the information on Spurs at his disposal so I'm a born optimist and I am sure and so are thousands possibly millions of Saints Fans throughout the world that everything will fall in our favour and the Vultures, Sharks and Leeches to drown in there sorrows.[/p][/quote]I massively hope so. You're spot on he does seem like the type to have a little more loyalty and think there is still work to be done with saints that marks us out as one of the more interesting clubs to be involved with right now. For me, as with others maybe, it's a mix of one minute thinking we have some fantastic players who know and have progressed with the club (and more importantly have a genuine passion for saints), a solid manager and the financial stability that many outside top 4 would desire to then thinking we're not seeing enough leadership direction to defend our gains over recent years and we could end up with near enough 70 odd million in the bank (if the worst we're to happen and ads, shaw, spider, Lovren, mopo left) with a rebuilding job to be done. Guess there are worst problems we could have if it wasn't for Markus but frustrating nonetheless and no matter what we have a club I'm proud to support. van Gobbel is a Saint
  • Score: 2

9:49am Sat 24 May 14

jls217 says...

IF that is him and it is not a photo shop stitch up then we should be rejoicing because it means he's been there and seen first hand that what they have to offer is in no way superior to what he already has here. The money on offer is a different subject and only the board knows if we can beat the money offer.

If he decides to go (and I would wish him well if he did) we can only pray the board find a replacement who has a similar outlook on football and has the same positive effect on the players.

He ain't out of the door until he's on the motorway though and for the time being at least he's still ours.
IF that is him and it is not a photo shop stitch up then we should be rejoicing because it means he's been there and seen first hand that what they have to offer is in no way superior to what he already has here. The money on offer is a different subject and only the board knows if we can beat the money offer. If he decides to go (and I would wish him well if he did) we can only pray the board find a replacement who has a similar outlook on football and has the same positive effect on the players. He ain't out of the door until he's on the motorway though and for the time being at least he's still ours. jls217
  • Score: 3

9:59am Sat 24 May 14

dadofmy3sons says...

England squad numbers.
Adam and Luke get their Saints numbers.
20 + 23
So starters for England then.
England squad numbers. Adam and Luke get their Saints numbers. 20 + 23 So starters for England then. dadofmy3sons
  • Score: 2

10:39am Sat 24 May 14

Rising_Son says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
saintand266 wrote: It is becoming clear that Luke is leaving. , while it is a big loss I would rather lose Luke than Lovren . We have two other quality full backs. NC and CC . Clyne covered at left back last season and did a good solid job even if it is his unfavoured position . And besides the deal with manure should include players coming our way Hernandez and Buttner plus 15 million is a pretty good deal in my book . I think it would be a much harder job trying to replace lovren .
I didn't see much of Büttner this season, probably because Moyes didn't rate him, and, when I did see him, I didn't think he wasn't very good. No, thanks. I reckon our most urgent need is for someone clinical up front, and Hernandez might be useful for that, but I don't think we should let Shaw go in order to get him. His value isn't going to drop even if we hold on to him for a couple of years. Why do you think "It is becoming clear that Luke is leaving"? To me, nothing seems clear.
Buttner is utter toilet. I think we should (and will) keep Luke.

Hope this helps everyone. Ta.
Clarity in a word.
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote: It is becoming clear that Luke is leaving. , while it is a big loss I would rather lose Luke than Lovren . We have two other quality full backs. NC and CC . Clyne covered at left back last season and did a good solid job even if it is his unfavoured position . And besides the deal with manure should include players coming our way Hernandez and Buttner plus 15 million is a pretty good deal in my book . I think it would be a much harder job trying to replace lovren .[/p][/quote]I didn't see much of Büttner this season, probably because Moyes didn't rate him, and, when I did see him, I didn't think he wasn't very good. No, thanks. I reckon our most urgent need is for someone clinical up front, and Hernandez might be useful for that, but I don't think we should let Shaw go in order to get him. His value isn't going to drop even if we hold on to him for a couple of years. Why do you think "It is becoming clear that Luke is leaving"? To me, nothing seems clear.[/p][/quote]Buttner is utter toilet. I think we should (and will) keep Luke. Hope this helps everyone. Ta.[/p][/quote]Clarity in a word. Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

10:52am Sat 24 May 14

Rising_Son says...

Malcombe wrote:
van Gobble I have just had a look on that site and you are correct it's definitely MoPo, lets hope that it's his son and a friend behind him and they are going to the Departure Lounge, it really made my stomach churn after what I've just posted
I've just had a look at the photo, and read the Spuds supporters comments below. They don't believe, either.
[quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: van Gobble I have just had a look on that site and you are correct it's definitely MoPo, lets hope that it's his son and a friend behind him and they are going to the Departure Lounge, it really made my stomach churn after what I've just posted[/p][/quote]I've just had a look at the photo, and read the Spuds supporters comments below. They don't believe, either. Rising_Son
  • Score: 5

10:54am Sat 24 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
saintand266 wrote: It is becoming clear that Luke is leaving. , while it is a big loss I would rather lose Luke than Lovren . We have two other quality full backs. NC and CC . Clyne covered at left back last season and did a good solid job even if it is his unfavoured position . And besides the deal with manure should include players coming our way Hernandez and Buttner plus 15 million is a pretty good deal in my book . I think it would be a much harder job trying to replace lovren .
I didn't see much of Büttner this season, probably because Moyes didn't rate him, and, when I did see him, I didn't think he wasn't very good. No, thanks. I reckon our most urgent need is for someone clinical up front, and Hernandez might be useful for that, but I don't think we should let Shaw go in order to get him. His value isn't going to drop even if we hold on to him for a couple of years. Why do you think "It is becoming clear that Luke is leaving"? To me, nothing seems clear.
Buttner is utter toilet. I think we should (and will) keep Luke.

Hope this helps everyone. Ta.
RS,
I wouldn't bother mate, there is a small section of fans who think we should just give up on Luke and lalla. They think that because a so called big club come in for our players the club will go weak at the knees and bend over so that they can be sh@#ted! The players too cant wait to jump ship and are money grabbers who have zero loyalty. They think we are the same club we used to be, the club that had to sell player just to keep going. They see all negative rumours as true whilst the positive ones are rubbish. They think les and Ralph were lying when they said they will do all they can to keep the players, and most of all they want to be right. There are some who cant wait to say 'told you so' and wont listen to reasoned debate.
Stret,
100% agree, we dodged a buttner sized bullet. Not only would I not want him at SMS because he isn't that good, but he had his chance to join and got his head turned by the 'bigger' club, whats to say he wouldn't do it again after a decent season. I don't care who you are or how good you are, turn us down and you've lost your chance!
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote: It is becoming clear that Luke is leaving. , while it is a big loss I would rather lose Luke than Lovren . We have two other quality full backs. NC and CC . Clyne covered at left back last season and did a good solid job even if it is his unfavoured position . And besides the deal with manure should include players coming our way Hernandez and Buttner plus 15 million is a pretty good deal in my book . I think it would be a much harder job trying to replace lovren .[/p][/quote]I didn't see much of Büttner this season, probably because Moyes didn't rate him, and, when I did see him, I didn't think he wasn't very good. No, thanks. I reckon our most urgent need is for someone clinical up front, and Hernandez might be useful for that, but I don't think we should let Shaw go in order to get him. His value isn't going to drop even if we hold on to him for a couple of years. Why do you think "It is becoming clear that Luke is leaving"? To me, nothing seems clear.[/p][/quote]Buttner is utter toilet. I think we should (and will) keep Luke. Hope this helps everyone. Ta.[/p][/quote]RS, I wouldn't bother mate, there is a small section of fans who think we should just give up on Luke and lalla. They think that because a so called big club come in for our players the club will go weak at the knees and bend over so that they can be sh@#ted! The players too cant wait to jump ship and are money grabbers who have zero loyalty. They think we are the same club we used to be, the club that had to sell player just to keep going. They see all negative rumours as true whilst the positive ones are rubbish. They think les and Ralph were lying when they said they will do all they can to keep the players, and most of all they want to be right. There are some who cant wait to say 'told you so' and wont listen to reasoned debate. Stret, 100% agree, we dodged a buttner sized bullet. Not only would I not want him at SMS because he isn't that good, but he had his chance to join and got his head turned by the 'bigger' club, whats to say he wouldn't do it again after a decent season. I don't care who you are or how good you are, turn us down and you've lost your chance! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 5

10:57am Sat 24 May 14

Dorssaints says...

See Evra has just signed a one year contract for Utd. Luke needs to be careful he doesn't join Buttner on the subs bench for a year
See Evra has just signed a one year contract for Utd. Luke needs to be careful he doesn't join Buttner on the subs bench for a year Dorssaints
  • Score: 1

11:00am Sat 24 May 14

Dorssaints says...

And it seems most unlike Mopo to dress in jeans and a polo if he is meeting his new employers. And would he not have an agent with him rather than two boys?
And it seems most unlike Mopo to dress in jeans and a polo if he is meeting his new employers. And would he not have an agent with him rather than two boys? Dorssaints
  • Score: 3

11:13am Sat 24 May 14

Rising_Son says...

Horse, "there is a small section of fans who think we should just give up on Luke and lalla."

Well, if they've got the right to come on here and spout that kind of stuff, I've also got the right to come on here and spout mine. However much they dislike it.
Horse, "there is a small section of fans who think we should just give up on Luke and lalla." Well, if they've got the right to come on here and spout that kind of stuff, I've also got the right to come on here and spout mine. However much they dislike it. Rising_Son
  • Score: 2

11:17am Sat 24 May 14

Rising_Son says...

Dorssaints wrote:
See Evra has just signed a one year contract for Utd. Luke needs to be careful he doesn't join Buttner on the subs bench for a year
Do you think Buttner's tattoos would move and makes space for him?
[quote][p][bold]Dorssaints[/bold] wrote: See Evra has just signed a one year contract for Utd. Luke needs to be careful he doesn't join Buttner on the subs bench for a year[/p][/quote]Do you think Buttner's tattoos would move and makes space for him? Rising_Son
  • Score: 2

11:38am Sat 24 May 14

redandy10 says...

The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation?

They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it.

So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away.

No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving.

It's not exactly rocket science!!!
The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!! redandy10
  • Score: 1

11:56am Sat 24 May 14

hedge end bob says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Horse, "there is a small section of fans who think we should just give up on Luke and lalla." Well, if they've got the right to come on here and spout that kind of stuff, I've also got the right to come on here and spout mine. However much they dislike it.
RS everybody has the right to come on this site with their views but, until OUR CLUB MAKES AN UP TO DATE STATEMENT people on here are way of the mark saying deals are done on certain players IMO. It's like people state there are people on here wising our top players will leave just so they can say I ,YES ME , TOLD YOU SO.
The Daily Echo are not helping at all and no wonder they are not welcome at ST MARY'S. Every day , even after Manure 1st choice left back has signed a contract the DE is still on about LUKE leaving. I am just pizzed off with it all and will stop reading the bullsh!t that is beig printed every fecking day. It might sell newspapers but not too me.
I support SFC 100% and that means at this moment in time i trust the board of the club i support, to do the best for the club and it's supporters so that the future of our club will be on a solid footing. It would also be better if the local news paper was on the same wave lenght and reported what they are told by the club and not what some rag is saying up in yorkshire ffs.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: Horse, "there is a small section of fans who think we should just give up on Luke and lalla." Well, if they've got the right to come on here and spout that kind of stuff, I've also got the right to come on here and spout mine. However much they dislike it.[/p][/quote]RS everybody has the right to come on this site with their views but, until OUR CLUB MAKES AN UP TO DATE STATEMENT people on here are way of the mark saying deals are done on certain players IMO. It's like people state there are people on here wising our top players will leave just so they can say I ,YES ME , TOLD YOU SO. The Daily Echo are not helping at all and no wonder they are not welcome at ST MARY'S. Every day , even after Manure 1st choice left back has signed a contract the DE is still on about LUKE leaving. I am just pizzed off with it all and will stop reading the bullsh!t that is beig printed every fecking day. It might sell newspapers but not too me. I support SFC 100% and that means at this moment in time i trust the board of the club i support, to do the best for the club and it's supporters so that the future of our club will be on a solid footing. It would also be better if the local news paper was on the same wave lenght and reported what they are told by the club and not what some rag is saying up in yorkshire ffs. hedge end bob
  • Score: 6

12:11pm Sat 24 May 14

Rising_Son says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Horse, "there is a small section of fans who think we should just give up on Luke and lalla." Well, if they've got the right to come on here and spout that kind of stuff, I've also got the right to come on here and spout mine. However much they dislike it.
RS everybody has the right to come on this site with their views but, until OUR CLUB MAKES AN UP TO DATE STATEMENT people on here are way of the mark saying deals are done on certain players IMO. It's like people state there are people on here wising our top players will leave just so they can say I ,YES ME , TOLD YOU SO.
The Daily Echo are not helping at all and no wonder they are not welcome at ST MARY'S. Every day , even after Manure 1st choice left back has signed a contract the DE is still on about LUKE leaving. I am just pizzed off with it all and will stop reading the bullsh!t that is beig printed every fecking day. It might sell newspapers but not too me.
I support SFC 100% and that means at this moment in time i trust the board of the club i support, to do the best for the club and it's supporters so that the future of our club will be on a solid footing. It would also be better if the local news paper was on the same wave lenght and reported what they are told by the club and not what some rag is saying up in yorkshire ffs.
Agreed. It's a problem of logic (or lack of it). In the absence of "facts", people can choose to believe what they want to believe. Unfortunately, some of them seem to confuse their beliefs with fact, and others seem to think that the inferences they make are sounder than the inferences others make. And then there are those who only say what they do to wind other up.

The truth is that none of us on here actually know what is happening. All we have is speculation.
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: Horse, "there is a small section of fans who think we should just give up on Luke and lalla." Well, if they've got the right to come on here and spout that kind of stuff, I've also got the right to come on here and spout mine. However much they dislike it.[/p][/quote]RS everybody has the right to come on this site with their views but, until OUR CLUB MAKES AN UP TO DATE STATEMENT people on here are way of the mark saying deals are done on certain players IMO. It's like people state there are people on here wising our top players will leave just so they can say I ,YES ME , TOLD YOU SO. The Daily Echo are not helping at all and no wonder they are not welcome at ST MARY'S. Every day , even after Manure 1st choice left back has signed a contract the DE is still on about LUKE leaving. I am just pizzed off with it all and will stop reading the bullsh!t that is beig printed every fecking day. It might sell newspapers but not too me. I support SFC 100% and that means at this moment in time i trust the board of the club i support, to do the best for the club and it's supporters so that the future of our club will be on a solid footing. It would also be better if the local news paper was on the same wave lenght and reported what they are told by the club and not what some rag is saying up in yorkshire ffs.[/p][/quote]Agreed. It's a problem of logic (or lack of it). In the absence of "facts", people can choose to believe what they want to believe. Unfortunately, some of them seem to confuse their beliefs with fact, and others seem to think that the inferences they make are sounder than the inferences others make. And then there are those who only say what they do to wind other up. The truth is that none of us on here actually know what is happening. All we have is speculation. Rising_Son
  • Score: 3

12:11pm Sat 24 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Horse, "there is a small section of fans who think we should just give up on Luke and lalla."

Well, if they've got the right to come on here and spout that kind of stuff, I've also got the right to come on here and spout mine. However much they dislike it.
absolutely agree RS.
like you I like to ask why they think that and what proof they have. some don't like being questioned though and resort to name calling and reverse bullying. as I`ve said before many times I don't mind people having their opinions and saying what they like, that's football. what I don't like is when they use rumour and conjecture as proof of opinion.
the name calling really makes me laugh though, the thread police and clique are the latest favourites.
you got accused of bullying people off of this site yesterday but you rightly challenged that. the only person I have seen bullied from here is osprey and he stopped posting because of the abuse he got from the `neg heads`
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: Horse, "there is a small section of fans who think we should just give up on Luke and lalla." Well, if they've got the right to come on here and spout that kind of stuff, I've also got the right to come on here and spout mine. However much they dislike it.[/p][/quote]absolutely agree RS. like you I like to ask why they think that and what proof they have. some don't like being questioned though and resort to name calling and reverse bullying. as I`ve said before many times I don't mind people having their opinions and saying what they like, that's football. what I don't like is when they use rumour and conjecture as proof of opinion. the name calling really makes me laugh though, the thread police and clique are the latest favourites. you got accused of bullying people off of this site yesterday but you rightly challenged that. the only person I have seen bullied from here is osprey and he stopped posting because of the abuse he got from the `neg heads` el caballo santos101
  • Score: 3

12:12pm Sat 24 May 14

hedge end bob says...

redandy10 wrote:
The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!!
Red , i don't know but maybe club rules don't allow players to do as you ask ??. Maybe there not even interested in what the players say. There are video's where players state they are happy with their clubs . Until we get a club statement you can do as i do MAKE YOUR OWN MINDS UP and if you wish put them in print. But remember it's only what you think and not everybody else.
WILL SAY THE SILENCE IS VERY ANNOYING.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!![/p][/quote]Red , i don't know but maybe club rules don't allow players to do as you ask ??. Maybe there not even interested in what the players say. There are video's where players state they are happy with their clubs . Until we get a club statement you can do as i do MAKE YOUR OWN MINDS UP and if you wish put them in print. But remember it's only what you think and not everybody else. WILL SAY THE SILENCE IS VERY ANNOYING. hedge end bob
  • Score: 1

12:18pm Sat 24 May 14

jls217 says...

redandy10 wrote:
The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation?

They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it.

So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away.

No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving.

It's not exactly rocket science!!!
An extremely valid point mate - has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere"
Not to my knowledge but then I guess it could be the press just not asking those questions or wanting to print those replies.
Doesn't detract from your point though and as captain I would have expected Adam to state quite categorically and many times over if he didn't want to go.Could it be the club has put a gagging order on them though?
Guess we all have to wait the summer of misery before we get the answers, pos or neg. I love and hate Saints all at the same time right now. I am a bipolar fan and it's the board causing it. Will noone rid me of this pesky board? Next season is going to tbe the best ever regardless though.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!![/p][/quote]An extremely valid point mate - has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere" Not to my knowledge but then I guess it could be the press just not asking those questions or wanting to print those replies. Doesn't detract from your point though and as captain I would have expected Adam to state quite categorically and many times over if he didn't want to go.Could it be the club has put a gagging order on them though? Guess we all have to wait the summer of misery before we get the answers, pos or neg. I love and hate Saints all at the same time right now. I am a bipolar fan and it's the board causing it. Will noone rid me of this pesky board? Next season is going to tbe the best ever regardless though. jls217
  • Score: 0

12:35pm Sat 24 May 14

NC Fan4Life says...

redandy10 wrote:
The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation?

They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it.

So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away.

No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving.

It's not exactly rocket science!!!
You are PROBABLY correct, I hope that they are both waiting to see if MoPo is staying and what top quality players will be signed.
So it is still down to Les Reed & Ralph Kruger to sort it out quickly, MoPo is the key to it all.

Get MoPo to sign extended contract and get on with signing his new targets quickly, there is PROBABLY a couple of quality players in Europe that are out of contract this summer that would improve us.
Also use Osvaldo & Hoover in part exchange deals and spend a modest £25m on two or three quality players then Adam & Luke will stay.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!![/p][/quote]You are PROBABLY correct, I hope that they are both waiting to see if MoPo is staying and what top quality players will be signed. So it is still down to Les Reed & Ralph Kruger to sort it out quickly, MoPo is the key to it all. Get MoPo to sign extended contract and get on with signing his new targets quickly, there is PROBABLY a couple of quality players in Europe that are out of contract this summer that would improve us. Also use Osvaldo & Hoover in part exchange deals and spend a modest £25m on two or three quality players then Adam & Luke will stay. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 1

12:38pm Sat 24 May 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

redandy10 wrote:
The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation?

They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it.

So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away.

No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving.

It's not exactly rocket science!!!
I think things remain the same. The players and management have all said they'd like to stay provided the club is going to continue to pursue it's declared vision when Cortese was here. Cortese spoke of competing for the title and Ralph spoke of 'awkward' and 'difficult' finances. It changed the media perception of the club, our rivals perception (hence the bids) and many of the fans. It obviously affected the players and management perception and they want it clarified before committing.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!![/p][/quote]I think things remain the same. The players and management have all said they'd like to stay provided the club is going to continue to pursue it's declared vision when Cortese was here. Cortese spoke of competing for the title and Ralph spoke of 'awkward' and 'difficult' finances. It changed the media perception of the club, our rivals perception (hence the bids) and many of the fans. It obviously affected the players and management perception and they want it clarified before committing. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 4

1:01pm Sat 24 May 14

arfer phesache says...

redandy10 wrote:
The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation?

They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it.

So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away.

No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving.

It's not exactly rocket science!!!
Well never mind eh, It could be much worse. You could for instance live in Portsmouth...And support a shiitty club in Manchester ....but you wouldn't want to do that..... would you !
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!![/p][/quote]Well never mind eh, It could be much worse. You could for instance live in Portsmouth...And support a shiitty club in Manchester ....but you wouldn't want to do that..... would you ! arfer phesache
  • Score: 3

1:26pm Sat 24 May 14

redandy10 says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation?

They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it.

So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away.

No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving.

It's not exactly rocket science!!!
You are PROBABLY correct, I hope that they are both waiting to see if MoPo is staying and what top quality players will be signed.
So it is still down to Les Reed & Ralph Kruger to sort it out quickly, MoPo is the key to it all.

Get MoPo to sign extended contract and get on with signing his new targets quickly, there is PROBABLY a couple of quality players in Europe that are out of contract this summer that would improve us.
Also use Osvaldo & Hoover in part exchange deals and spend a modest £25m on two or three quality players then Adam & Luke will stay.
What club rule prohibits a player from stating he wants to stay with a club? That's a new one!!!

How can we go for European targets when, as Jay said, Poch's future at the club is up in the air? He is the architect of the team and the way it plays, don't you think that he'll want a big say.

Which half intelligent, talented player is going to sign with a club when a lot of its players, plus the manager's futures are up in the air?

So far your arguments are sounding completely unrealistic, but let's persist.

Sell Dani and Hoover for £25 mill and fund a couple of buys. Again We don't know what's going on with Poch, and Poch will know what he wants in terms of players, but he might not be here in a month!!!

And who wants to take a gamble on Dani? He signed with us to kick start his career, couldn't make an impression in the Premiership and promptly butted good old Fonte. Any manager willing to gamble on him will want to get him on the cheap. Those Chaps at Juve are not mugs. Hoover we could get shot of, but in any part exchange deal his value will be very little.

And of course it's up to Les & Ralph to sort things out quickly, what do you think they are doing? Let me guess, you DON'T think it's the players not playing ball but Les and Ralph not doing a good job at keeping them. Can Ralph and Les offer the wages the big clubs can? Can they sway those two with promises of Champions League football? They Can't even guarantee Poch will be here next week!!!

And I would suggest that you are one of the VOCAL MINORITY of Saints fans who believe that we'll be able to keep Ads and Luke. Believing that they will PROBABLY leave is common sense, going on how things are playing out.
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!![/p][/quote]You are PROBABLY correct, I hope that they are both waiting to see if MoPo is staying and what top quality players will be signed. So it is still down to Les Reed & Ralph Kruger to sort it out quickly, MoPo is the key to it all. Get MoPo to sign extended contract and get on with signing his new targets quickly, there is PROBABLY a couple of quality players in Europe that are out of contract this summer that would improve us. Also use Osvaldo & Hoover in part exchange deals and spend a modest £25m on two or three quality players then Adam & Luke will stay.[/p][/quote]What club rule prohibits a player from stating he wants to stay with a club? That's a new one!!! How can we go for European targets when, as Jay said, Poch's future at the club is up in the air? He is the architect of the team and the way it plays, don't you think that he'll want a big say. Which half intelligent, talented player is going to sign with a club when a lot of its players, plus the manager's futures are up in the air? So far your arguments are sounding completely unrealistic, but let's persist. Sell Dani and Hoover for £25 mill and fund a couple of buys. Again We don't know what's going on with Poch, and Poch will know what he wants in terms of players, but he might not be here in a month!!! And who wants to take a gamble on Dani? He signed with us to kick start his career, couldn't make an impression in the Premiership and promptly butted good old Fonte. Any manager willing to gamble on him will want to get him on the cheap. Those Chaps at Juve are not mugs. Hoover we could get shot of, but in any part exchange deal his value will be very little. And of course it's up to Les & Ralph to sort things out quickly, what do you think they are doing? Let me guess, you DON'T think it's the players not playing ball but Les and Ralph not doing a good job at keeping them. Can Ralph and Les offer the wages the big clubs can? Can they sway those two with promises of Champions League football? They Can't even guarantee Poch will be here next week!!! And I would suggest that you are one of the VOCAL MINORITY of Saints fans who believe that we'll be able to keep Ads and Luke. Believing that they will PROBABLY leave is common sense, going on how things are playing out. redandy10
  • Score: -2

1:34pm Sat 24 May 14

redandy10 says...

arfer phesache wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation?

They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it.

So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away.

No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving.

It's not exactly rocket science!!!
Well never mind eh, It could be much worse. You could for instance live in Portsmouth...And support a shiitty club in Manchester ....but you wouldn't want to do that..... would you !
Surprise surprise it's my faithful mutt Phesachy, waiting patiently for his master. Here boy! Roll over!
I'm flattered you only post when I do.
BARK LOUDER, GINGE CAN'T HEAR YOU!
[quote][p][bold]arfer phesache[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!![/p][/quote]Well never mind eh, It could be much worse. You could for instance live in Portsmouth...And support a shiitty club in Manchester ....but you wouldn't want to do that..... would you ![/p][/quote]Surprise surprise it's my faithful mutt Phesachy, waiting patiently for his master. Here boy! Roll over! I'm flattered you only post when I do. BARK LOUDER, GINGE CAN'T HEAR YOU! redandy10
  • Score: -4

1:37pm Sat 24 May 14

redandy10 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation?

They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it.

So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away.

No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving.

It's not exactly rocket science!!!
I think things remain the same. The players and management have all said they'd like to stay provided the club is going to continue to pursue it's declared vision when Cortese was here. Cortese spoke of competing for the title and Ralph spoke of 'awkward' and 'difficult' finances. It changed the media perception of the club, our rivals perception (hence the bids) and many of the fans. It obviously affected the players and management perception and they want it clarified before committing.
I agree NC could sell the whole ambition thing, not just through words but also actions. He signed off on the £70 mill spent on players in two years and got us Poch.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!![/p][/quote]I think things remain the same. The players and management have all said they'd like to stay provided the club is going to continue to pursue it's declared vision when Cortese was here. Cortese spoke of competing for the title and Ralph spoke of 'awkward' and 'difficult' finances. It changed the media perception of the club, our rivals perception (hence the bids) and many of the fans. It obviously affected the players and management perception and they want it clarified before committing.[/p][/quote]I agree NC could sell the whole ambition thing, not just through words but also actions. He signed off on the £70 mill spent on players in two years and got us Poch. redandy10
  • Score: 0

1:48pm Sat 24 May 14

redandy10 says...

jls217 wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation?

They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it.

So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away.

No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving.

It's not exactly rocket science!!!
An extremely valid point mate - has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere"
Not to my knowledge but then I guess it could be the press just not asking those questions or wanting to print those replies.
Doesn't detract from your point though and as captain I would have expected Adam to state quite categorically and many times over if he didn't want to go.Could it be the club has put a gagging order on them though?
Guess we all have to wait the summer of misery before we get the answers, pos or neg. I love and hate Saints all at the same time right now. I am a bipolar fan and it's the board causing it. Will noone rid me of this pesky board? Next season is going to tbe the best ever regardless though.
Thank you!

But not according to Hedge End, who says there might be some club rule prohibiting a player pledging his future to a club. You couldn't make it up.

I have obviously annoyed Arfer's alter ego, he who is the human vidiprinter!
I
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!![/p][/quote]An extremely valid point mate - has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere" Not to my knowledge but then I guess it could be the press just not asking those questions or wanting to print those replies. Doesn't detract from your point though and as captain I would have expected Adam to state quite categorically and many times over if he didn't want to go.Could it be the club has put a gagging order on them though? Guess we all have to wait the summer of misery before we get the answers, pos or neg. I love and hate Saints all at the same time right now. I am a bipolar fan and it's the board causing it. Will noone rid me of this pesky board? Next season is going to tbe the best ever regardless though.[/p][/quote]Thank you! But not according to Hedge End, who says there might be some club rule prohibiting a player pledging his future to a club. You couldn't make it up. I have obviously annoyed Arfer's alter ego, he who is the human vidiprinter! I redandy10
  • Score: 0

1:54pm Sat 24 May 14

Costa Baz says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Malcombe wrote:
van Gobble I have just had a look on that site and you are correct it's definitely MoPo, lets hope that it's his son and a friend behind him and they are going to the Departure Lounge, it really made my stomach churn after what I've just posted
I've just had a look at the photo, and read the Spuds supporters comments below. They don't believe, either.
Posters on other forums say the picture is from inside SMS.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: van Gobble I have just had a look on that site and you are correct it's definitely MoPo, lets hope that it's his son and a friend behind him and they are going to the Departure Lounge, it really made my stomach churn after what I've just posted[/p][/quote]I've just had a look at the photo, and read the Spuds supporters comments below. They don't believe, either.[/p][/quote]Posters on other forums say the picture is from inside SMS. Costa Baz
  • Score: -1

1:56pm Sat 24 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

jls217 wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation?

They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it.

So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away.

No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving.

It's not exactly rocket science!!!
An extremely valid point mate - has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere"
Not to my knowledge but then I guess it could be the press just not asking those questions or wanting to print those replies.
Doesn't detract from your point though and as captain I would have expected Adam to state quite categorically and many times over if he didn't want to go.Could it be the club has put a gagging order on them though?
Guess we all have to wait the summer of misery before we get the answers, pos or neg. I love and hate Saints all at the same time right now. I am a bipolar fan and it's the board causing it. Will noone rid me of this pesky board? Next season is going to tbe the best ever regardless though.
I realise a lot has happened since last November, but many seem to have forgotten what Luke said in this thread:

http://www.dailyecho
.co.uk/sport/1079869
8.Shaw__I_m_not_leav
ing_Saints/
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!![/p][/quote]An extremely valid point mate - has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere" Not to my knowledge but then I guess it could be the press just not asking those questions or wanting to print those replies. Doesn't detract from your point though and as captain I would have expected Adam to state quite categorically and many times over if he didn't want to go.Could it be the club has put a gagging order on them though? Guess we all have to wait the summer of misery before we get the answers, pos or neg. I love and hate Saints all at the same time right now. I am a bipolar fan and it's the board causing it. Will noone rid me of this pesky board? Next season is going to tbe the best ever regardless though.[/p][/quote]I realise a lot has happened since last November, but many seem to have forgotten what Luke said in this thread: http://www.dailyecho .co.uk/sport/1079869 8.Shaw__I_m_not_leav ing_Saints/ Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 1

2:09pm Sat 24 May 14

redandy10 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
jls217 wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation?

They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it.

So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away.

No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving.

It's not exactly rocket science!!!
An extremely valid point mate - has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere"
Not to my knowledge but then I guess it could be the press just not asking those questions or wanting to print those replies.
Doesn't detract from your point though and as captain I would have expected Adam to state quite categorically and many times over if he didn't want to go.Could it be the club has put a gagging order on them though?
Guess we all have to wait the summer of misery before we get the answers, pos or neg. I love and hate Saints all at the same time right now. I am a bipolar fan and it's the board causing it. Will noone rid me of this pesky board? Next season is going to tbe the best ever regardless though.
I realise a lot has happened since last November, but many seem to have forgotten what Luke said in this thread:

http://www.dailyecho

.co.uk/sport/1079869

8.Shaw__I_m_not_leav

ing_Saints/
What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014?

Why hasn't he come out and stated CATEGORICALLY that he is staying. If it were his intention wouldn't he do it to put a stop to the rumours which are not good for the club?

Hey I'm willing to say you know what, maybe I'm being too negative. But at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago!

Maybe in November 2013 NC would have said the same, where is he now?
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!![/p][/quote]An extremely valid point mate - has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere" Not to my knowledge but then I guess it could be the press just not asking those questions or wanting to print those replies. Doesn't detract from your point though and as captain I would have expected Adam to state quite categorically and many times over if he didn't want to go.Could it be the club has put a gagging order on them though? Guess we all have to wait the summer of misery before we get the answers, pos or neg. I love and hate Saints all at the same time right now. I am a bipolar fan and it's the board causing it. Will noone rid me of this pesky board? Next season is going to tbe the best ever regardless though.[/p][/quote]I realise a lot has happened since last November, but many seem to have forgotten what Luke said in this thread: http://www.dailyecho .co.uk/sport/1079869 8.Shaw__I_m_not_leav ing_Saints/[/p][/quote]What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014? Why hasn't he come out and stated CATEGORICALLY that he is staying. If it were his intention wouldn't he do it to put a stop to the rumours which are not good for the club? Hey I'm willing to say you know what, maybe I'm being too negative. But at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago! Maybe in November 2013 NC would have said the same, where is he now? redandy10
  • Score: -4

2:17pm Sat 24 May 14

Rising_Son says...

Costa Baz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Malcombe wrote:
van Gobble I have just had a look on that site and you are correct it's definitely MoPo, lets hope that it's his son and a friend behind him and they are going to the Departure Lounge, it really made my stomach churn after what I've just posted
I've just had a look at the photo, and read the Spuds supporters comments below. They don't believe, either.
Posters on other forums say the picture is from inside SMS.
Well, it just goes to show what unsubstantiated nonsense can put people's imaginations in overdrive. Stay calm and wait for the truth to come out.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: van Gobble I have just had a look on that site and you are correct it's definitely MoPo, lets hope that it's his son and a friend behind him and they are going to the Departure Lounge, it really made my stomach churn after what I've just posted[/p][/quote]I've just had a look at the photo, and read the Spuds supporters comments below. They don't believe, either.[/p][/quote]Posters on other forums say the picture is from inside SMS.[/p][/quote]Well, it just goes to show what unsubstantiated nonsense can put people's imaginations in overdrive. Stay calm and wait for the truth to come out. Rising_Son
  • Score: 4

2:19pm Sat 24 May 14

Rising_Son says...

redandy10 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
jls217 wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation?

They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it.

So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away.

No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving.

It's not exactly rocket science!!!
An extremely valid point mate - has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere"
Not to my knowledge but then I guess it could be the press just not asking those questions or wanting to print those replies.
Doesn't detract from your point though and as captain I would have expected Adam to state quite categorically and many times over if he didn't want to go.Could it be the club has put a gagging order on them though?
Guess we all have to wait the summer of misery before we get the answers, pos or neg. I love and hate Saints all at the same time right now. I am a bipolar fan and it's the board causing it. Will noone rid me of this pesky board? Next season is going to tbe the best ever regardless though.
I realise a lot has happened since last November, but many seem to have forgotten what Luke said in this thread:

http://www.dailyecho


.co.uk/sport/1079869


8.Shaw__I_m_not_leav


ing_Saints/
What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014?

Why hasn't he come out and stated CATEGORICALLY that he is staying. If it were his intention wouldn't he do it to put a stop to the rumours which are not good for the club?

Hey I'm willing to say you know what, maybe I'm being too negative. But at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago!

Maybe in November 2013 NC would have said the same, where is he now?
He hasn't categorically said that he's leaving, either. What can you infer from that?
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!![/p][/quote]An extremely valid point mate - has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere" Not to my knowledge but then I guess it could be the press just not asking those questions or wanting to print those replies. Doesn't detract from your point though and as captain I would have expected Adam to state quite categorically and many times over if he didn't want to go.Could it be the club has put a gagging order on them though? Guess we all have to wait the summer of misery before we get the answers, pos or neg. I love and hate Saints all at the same time right now. I am a bipolar fan and it's the board causing it. Will noone rid me of this pesky board? Next season is going to tbe the best ever regardless though.[/p][/quote]I realise a lot has happened since last November, but many seem to have forgotten what Luke said in this thread: http://www.dailyecho .co.uk/sport/1079869 8.Shaw__I_m_not_leav ing_Saints/[/p][/quote]What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014? Why hasn't he come out and stated CATEGORICALLY that he is staying. If it were his intention wouldn't he do it to put a stop to the rumours which are not good for the club? Hey I'm willing to say you know what, maybe I'm being too negative. But at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago! Maybe in November 2013 NC would have said the same, where is he now?[/p][/quote]He hasn't categorically said that he's leaving, either. What can you infer from that? Rising_Son
  • Score: 4

2:37pm Sat 24 May 14

redandy10 says...

Rising_Son wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
jls217 wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation?

They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it.

So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away.

No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving.

It's not exactly rocket science!!!
An extremely valid point mate - has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere"
Not to my knowledge but then I guess it could be the press just not asking those questions or wanting to print those replies.
Doesn't detract from your point though and as captain I would have expected Adam to state quite categorically and many times over if he didn't want to go.Could it be the club has put a gagging order on them though?
Guess we all have to wait the summer of misery before we get the answers, pos or neg. I love and hate Saints all at the same time right now. I am a bipolar fan and it's the board causing it. Will noone rid me of this pesky board? Next season is going to tbe the best ever regardless though.
I realise a lot has happened since last November, but many seem to have forgotten what Luke said in this thread:

http://www.dailyecho



.co.uk/sport/1079869



8.Shaw__I_m_not_leav



ing_Saints/
What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014?

Why hasn't he come out and stated CATEGORICALLY that he is staying. If it were his intention wouldn't he do it to put a stop to the rumours which are not good for the club?

Hey I'm willing to say you know what, maybe I'm being too negative. But at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago!

Maybe in November 2013 NC would have said the same, where is he now?
He hasn't categorically said that he's leaving, either. What can you infer from that?
That the clubs haven't agreed on a fee.

Next question!!!
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!![/p][/quote]An extremely valid point mate - has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere" Not to my knowledge but then I guess it could be the press just not asking those questions or wanting to print those replies. Doesn't detract from your point though and as captain I would have expected Adam to state quite categorically and many times over if he didn't want to go.Could it be the club has put a gagging order on them though? Guess we all have to wait the summer of misery before we get the answers, pos or neg. I love and hate Saints all at the same time right now. I am a bipolar fan and it's the board causing it. Will noone rid me of this pesky board? Next season is going to tbe the best ever regardless though.[/p][/quote]I realise a lot has happened since last November, but many seem to have forgotten what Luke said in this thread: http://www.dailyecho .co.uk/sport/1079869 8.Shaw__I_m_not_leav ing_Saints/[/p][/quote]What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014? Why hasn't he come out and stated CATEGORICALLY that he is staying. If it were his intention wouldn't he do it to put a stop to the rumours which are not good for the club? Hey I'm willing to say you know what, maybe I'm being too negative. But at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago! Maybe in November 2013 NC would have said the same, where is he now?[/p][/quote]He hasn't categorically said that he's leaving, either. What can you infer from that?[/p][/quote]That the clubs haven't agreed on a fee. Next question!!! redandy10
  • Score: 0

2:37pm Sat 24 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Rising_Son wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
jls217 wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation?

They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it.

So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away.

No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving.

It's not exactly rocket science!!!
An extremely valid point mate - has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere"
Not to my knowledge but then I guess it could be the press just not asking those questions or wanting to print those replies.
Doesn't detract from your point though and as captain I would have expected Adam to state quite categorically and many times over if he didn't want to go.Could it be the club has put a gagging order on them though?
Guess we all have to wait the summer of misery before we get the answers, pos or neg. I love and hate Saints all at the same time right now. I am a bipolar fan and it's the board causing it. Will noone rid me of this pesky board? Next season is going to tbe the best ever regardless though.
I realise a lot has happened since last November, but many seem to have forgotten what Luke said in this thread:

http://www.dailyecho



.co.uk/sport/1079869



8.Shaw__I_m_not_leav



ing_Saints/
What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014?

Why hasn't he come out and stated CATEGORICALLY that he is staying. If it were his intention wouldn't he do it to put a stop to the rumours which are not good for the club?

Hey I'm willing to say you know what, maybe I'm being too negative. But at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago!

Maybe in November 2013 NC would have said the same, where is he now?
He hasn't categorically said that he's leaving, either. What can you infer from that?
most of the squad have been linked with moves away, how many have come out and categorically said they are not leaving? so by the logic being used am I to presume then that they are all going?
couldn't make it up, oh no wait it has been!
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!![/p][/quote]An extremely valid point mate - has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere" Not to my knowledge but then I guess it could be the press just not asking those questions or wanting to print those replies. Doesn't detract from your point though and as captain I would have expected Adam to state quite categorically and many times over if he didn't want to go.Could it be the club has put a gagging order on them though? Guess we all have to wait the summer of misery before we get the answers, pos or neg. I love and hate Saints all at the same time right now. I am a bipolar fan and it's the board causing it. Will noone rid me of this pesky board? Next season is going to tbe the best ever regardless though.[/p][/quote]I realise a lot has happened since last November, but many seem to have forgotten what Luke said in this thread: http://www.dailyecho .co.uk/sport/1079869 8.Shaw__I_m_not_leav ing_Saints/[/p][/quote]What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014? Why hasn't he come out and stated CATEGORICALLY that he is staying. If it were his intention wouldn't he do it to put a stop to the rumours which are not good for the club? Hey I'm willing to say you know what, maybe I'm being too negative. But at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago! Maybe in November 2013 NC would have said the same, where is he now?[/p][/quote]He hasn't categorically said that he's leaving, either. What can you infer from that?[/p][/quote]most of the squad have been linked with moves away, how many have come out and categorically said they are not leaving? so by the logic being used am I to presume then that they are all going? couldn't make it up, oh no wait it has been! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 3

2:41pm Sat 24 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

redandy10 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
jls217 wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation?

They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it.

So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away.

No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving.

It's not exactly rocket science!!!
An extremely valid point mate - has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere"
Not to my knowledge but then I guess it could be the press just not asking those questions or wanting to print those replies.
Doesn't detract from your point though and as captain I would have expected Adam to state quite categorically and many times over if he didn't want to go.Could it be the club has put a gagging order on them though?
Guess we all have to wait the summer of misery before we get the answers, pos or neg. I love and hate Saints all at the same time right now. I am a bipolar fan and it's the board causing it. Will noone rid me of this pesky board? Next season is going to tbe the best ever regardless though.
I realise a lot has happened since last November, but many seem to have forgotten what Luke said in this thread:

http://www.dailyecho


.co.uk/sport/1079869


8.Shaw__I_m_not_leav


ing_Saints/
What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014?

Why hasn't he come out and stated CATEGORICALLY that he is staying. If it were his intention wouldn't he do it to put a stop to the rumours which are not good for the club?

Hey I'm willing to say you know what, maybe I'm being too negative. But at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago!

Maybe in November 2013 NC would have said the same, where is he now?
You know this genuinely decent idea you have whereby someone with a point of view on here gets treated with respect? Well, using aggressive language such as, 'What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014?' and 'at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago!' is somewhat in contravention of your 'good idea', isn't it?

I repeat - in capitals - I REALISE A LOT HAS HAPPENED SINCE LAST NOVEMBER. However, the points I am making are that:
1a. JLS asked: 'has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere" Not to my knowledge.' Well, actually, yes, Luke has said it - albeit in November. That remains valid because:
1b. if he said it then and has said nothing to the contrary since, then the only evidence we have doesn't suggest he wants to leave. (NB: I said 'wants to' not 'is going to'.)
2. He highlighted the role the media and social networks play in distorting things; a very relevant point right now. Some seem to take what the press say as fact, yet ignore what those in the press actually say, which I find a bit bizarre.

The final point is that when there was speculation ahead of the previous transfer window, Luke spoke. Thus, at a time when, with NC still around, there seemed to be little information coming out of SMS, there didn't appear to be a gagging order. JLS suggested that there might be one right now. Given that, unlike November, Luke hasn't spoken this time, it seems highly likely to me that that is the case. Of course, it could also be that Luke (and Adam, Morgan and Dejan for that matter) are all a bit preoccupied right now.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!![/p][/quote]An extremely valid point mate - has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere" Not to my knowledge but then I guess it could be the press just not asking those questions or wanting to print those replies. Doesn't detract from your point though and as captain I would have expected Adam to state quite categorically and many times over if he didn't want to go.Could it be the club has put a gagging order on them though? Guess we all have to wait the summer of misery before we get the answers, pos or neg. I love and hate Saints all at the same time right now. I am a bipolar fan and it's the board causing it. Will noone rid me of this pesky board? Next season is going to tbe the best ever regardless though.[/p][/quote]I realise a lot has happened since last November, but many seem to have forgotten what Luke said in this thread: http://www.dailyecho .co.uk/sport/1079869 8.Shaw__I_m_not_leav ing_Saints/[/p][/quote]What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014? Why hasn't he come out and stated CATEGORICALLY that he is staying. If it were his intention wouldn't he do it to put a stop to the rumours which are not good for the club? Hey I'm willing to say you know what, maybe I'm being too negative. But at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago! Maybe in November 2013 NC would have said the same, where is he now?[/p][/quote]You know this genuinely decent idea you have whereby someone with a point of view on here gets treated with respect? Well, using aggressive language such as, 'What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014?' and 'at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago!' is somewhat in contravention of your 'good idea', isn't it? I repeat - in capitals - I REALISE A LOT HAS HAPPENED SINCE LAST NOVEMBER. However, the points I am making are that: 1a. JLS asked: 'has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere" Not to my knowledge.' Well, actually, yes, Luke has said it - albeit in November. That remains valid because: 1b. if he said it then and has said nothing to the contrary since, then the only evidence we have doesn't suggest he wants to leave. (NB: I said 'wants to' not 'is going to'.) 2. He highlighted the role the media and social networks play in distorting things; a very relevant point right now. Some seem to take what the press say as fact, yet ignore what those in the press actually say, which I find a bit bizarre. The final point is that when there was speculation ahead of the previous transfer window, Luke spoke. Thus, at a time when, with NC still around, there seemed to be little information coming out of SMS, there didn't appear to be a gagging order. JLS suggested that there might be one right now. Given that, unlike November, Luke hasn't spoken this time, it seems highly likely to me that that is the case. Of course, it could also be that Luke (and Adam, Morgan and Dejan for that matter) are all a bit preoccupied right now. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 3

2:44pm Sat 24 May 14

Rising_Son says...

redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
jls217 wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation?

They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it.

So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away.

No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving.

It's not exactly rocket science!!!
An extremely valid point mate - has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere"
Not to my knowledge but then I guess it could be the press just not asking those questions or wanting to print those replies.
Doesn't detract from your point though and as captain I would have expected Adam to state quite categorically and many times over if he didn't want to go.Could it be the club has put a gagging order on them though?
Guess we all have to wait the summer of misery before we get the answers, pos or neg. I love and hate Saints all at the same time right now. I am a bipolar fan and it's the board causing it. Will noone rid me of this pesky board? Next season is going to tbe the best ever regardless though.
I realise a lot has happened since last November, but many seem to have forgotten what Luke said in this thread:

http://www.dailyecho




.co.uk/sport/1079869




8.Shaw__I_m_not_leav




ing_Saints/
What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014?

Why hasn't he come out and stated CATEGORICALLY that he is staying. If it were his intention wouldn't he do it to put a stop to the rumours which are not good for the club?

Hey I'm willing to say you know what, maybe I'm being too negative. But at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago!

Maybe in November 2013 NC would have said the same, where is he now?
He hasn't categorically said that he's leaving, either. What can you infer from that?
That the clubs haven't agreed on a fee.

Next question!!!
So, it's merely an inference. One of the many that are possible.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!![/p][/quote]An extremely valid point mate - has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere" Not to my knowledge but then I guess it could be the press just not asking those questions or wanting to print those replies. Doesn't detract from your point though and as captain I would have expected Adam to state quite categorically and many times over if he didn't want to go.Could it be the club has put a gagging order on them though? Guess we all have to wait the summer of misery before we get the answers, pos or neg. I love and hate Saints all at the same time right now. I am a bipolar fan and it's the board causing it. Will noone rid me of this pesky board? Next season is going to tbe the best ever regardless though.[/p][/quote]I realise a lot has happened since last November, but many seem to have forgotten what Luke said in this thread: http://www.dailyecho .co.uk/sport/1079869 8.Shaw__I_m_not_leav ing_Saints/[/p][/quote]What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014? Why hasn't he come out and stated CATEGORICALLY that he is staying. If it were his intention wouldn't he do it to put a stop to the rumours which are not good for the club? Hey I'm willing to say you know what, maybe I'm being too negative. But at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago! Maybe in November 2013 NC would have said the same, where is he now?[/p][/quote]He hasn't categorically said that he's leaving, either. What can you infer from that?[/p][/quote]That the clubs haven't agreed on a fee. Next question!!![/p][/quote]So, it's merely an inference. One of the many that are possible. Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

2:49pm Sat 24 May 14

Rising_Son says...

Rising_Son wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
jls217 wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation?

They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it.

So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away.

No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving.

It's not exactly rocket science!!!
An extremely valid point mate - has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere"
Not to my knowledge but then I guess it could be the press just not asking those questions or wanting to print those replies.
Doesn't detract from your point though and as captain I would have expected Adam to state quite categorically and many times over if he didn't want to go.Could it be the club has put a gagging order on them though?
Guess we all have to wait the summer of misery before we get the answers, pos or neg. I love and hate Saints all at the same time right now. I am a bipolar fan and it's the board causing it. Will noone rid me of this pesky board? Next season is going to tbe the best ever regardless though.
I realise a lot has happened since last November, but many seem to have forgotten what Luke said in this thread:

http://www.dailyecho





.co.uk/sport/1079869





8.Shaw__I_m_not_leav





ing_Saints/
What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014?

Why hasn't he come out and stated CATEGORICALLY that he is staying. If it were his intention wouldn't he do it to put a stop to the rumours which are not good for the club?

Hey I'm willing to say you know what, maybe I'm being too negative. But at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago!

Maybe in November 2013 NC would have said the same, where is he now?
He hasn't categorically said that he's leaving, either. What can you infer from that?
That the clubs haven't agreed on a fee.

Next question!!!
So, it's merely an inference. One of the many that are possible.
Sorry, you wanted a question. One of the many that are possible, isn't it?
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!![/p][/quote]An extremely valid point mate - has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere" Not to my knowledge but then I guess it could be the press just not asking those questions or wanting to print those replies. Doesn't detract from your point though and as captain I would have expected Adam to state quite categorically and many times over if he didn't want to go.Could it be the club has put a gagging order on them though? Guess we all have to wait the summer of misery before we get the answers, pos or neg. I love and hate Saints all at the same time right now. I am a bipolar fan and it's the board causing it. Will noone rid me of this pesky board? Next season is going to tbe the best ever regardless though.[/p][/quote]I realise a lot has happened since last November, but many seem to have forgotten what Luke said in this thread: http://www.dailyecho .co.uk/sport/1079869 8.Shaw__I_m_not_leav ing_Saints/[/p][/quote]What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014? Why hasn't he come out and stated CATEGORICALLY that he is staying. If it were his intention wouldn't he do it to put a stop to the rumours which are not good for the club? Hey I'm willing to say you know what, maybe I'm being too negative. But at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago! Maybe in November 2013 NC would have said the same, where is he now?[/p][/quote]He hasn't categorically said that he's leaving, either. What can you infer from that?[/p][/quote]That the clubs haven't agreed on a fee. Next question!!![/p][/quote]So, it's merely an inference. One of the many that are possible.[/p][/quote]Sorry, you wanted a question. One of the many that are possible, isn't it? Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

2:57pm Sat 24 May 14

Rising_Son says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
jls217 wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation?

They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it.

So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away.

No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving.

It's not exactly rocket science!!!
An extremely valid point mate - has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere"
Not to my knowledge but then I guess it could be the press just not asking those questions or wanting to print those replies.
Doesn't detract from your point though and as captain I would have expected Adam to state quite categorically and many times over if he didn't want to go.Could it be the club has put a gagging order on them though?
Guess we all have to wait the summer of misery before we get the answers, pos or neg. I love and hate Saints all at the same time right now. I am a bipolar fan and it's the board causing it. Will noone rid me of this pesky board? Next season is going to tbe the best ever regardless though.
I realise a lot has happened since last November, but many seem to have forgotten what Luke said in this thread:

http://www.dailyecho



.co.uk/sport/1079869



8.Shaw__I_m_not_leav



ing_Saints/
What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014?

Why hasn't he come out and stated CATEGORICALLY that he is staying. If it were his intention wouldn't he do it to put a stop to the rumours which are not good for the club?

Hey I'm willing to say you know what, maybe I'm being too negative. But at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago!

Maybe in November 2013 NC would have said the same, where is he now?
You know this genuinely decent idea you have whereby someone with a point of view on here gets treated with respect? Well, using aggressive language such as, 'What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014?' and 'at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago!' is somewhat in contravention of your 'good idea', isn't it?

I repeat - in capitals - I REALISE A LOT HAS HAPPENED SINCE LAST NOVEMBER. However, the points I am making are that:
1a. JLS asked: 'has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere" Not to my knowledge.' Well, actually, yes, Luke has said it - albeit in November. That remains valid because:
1b. if he said it then and has said nothing to the contrary since, then the only evidence we have doesn't suggest he wants to leave. (NB: I said 'wants to' not 'is going to'.)
2. He highlighted the role the media and social networks play in distorting things; a very relevant point right now. Some seem to take what the press say as fact, yet ignore what those in the press actually say, which I find a bit bizarre.

The final point is that when there was speculation ahead of the previous transfer window, Luke spoke. Thus, at a time when, with NC still around, there seemed to be little information coming out of SMS, there didn't appear to be a gagging order. JLS suggested that there might be one right now. Given that, unlike November, Luke hasn't spoken this time, it seems highly likely to me that that is the case. Of course, it could also be that Luke (and Adam, Morgan and Dejan for that matter) are all a bit preoccupied right now.
If there is a 'gag', it might be on players in the England team. Pure speculation, of course, but a possibility, all the same.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!![/p][/quote]An extremely valid point mate - has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere" Not to my knowledge but then I guess it could be the press just not asking those questions or wanting to print those replies. Doesn't detract from your point though and as captain I would have expected Adam to state quite categorically and many times over if he didn't want to go.Could it be the club has put a gagging order on them though? Guess we all have to wait the summer of misery before we get the answers, pos or neg. I love and hate Saints all at the same time right now. I am a bipolar fan and it's the board causing it. Will noone rid me of this pesky board? Next season is going to tbe the best ever regardless though.[/p][/quote]I realise a lot has happened since last November, but many seem to have forgotten what Luke said in this thread: http://www.dailyecho .co.uk/sport/1079869 8.Shaw__I_m_not_leav ing_Saints/[/p][/quote]What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014? Why hasn't he come out and stated CATEGORICALLY that he is staying. If it were his intention wouldn't he do it to put a stop to the rumours which are not good for the club? Hey I'm willing to say you know what, maybe I'm being too negative. But at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago! Maybe in November 2013 NC would have said the same, where is he now?[/p][/quote]You know this genuinely decent idea you have whereby someone with a point of view on here gets treated with respect? Well, using aggressive language such as, 'What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014?' and 'at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago!' is somewhat in contravention of your 'good idea', isn't it? I repeat - in capitals - I REALISE A LOT HAS HAPPENED SINCE LAST NOVEMBER. However, the points I am making are that: 1a. JLS asked: 'has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere" Not to my knowledge.' Well, actually, yes, Luke has said it - albeit in November. That remains valid because: 1b. if he said it then and has said nothing to the contrary since, then the only evidence we have doesn't suggest he wants to leave. (NB: I said 'wants to' not 'is going to'.) 2. He highlighted the role the media and social networks play in distorting things; a very relevant point right now. Some seem to take what the press say as fact, yet ignore what those in the press actually say, which I find a bit bizarre. The final point is that when there was speculation ahead of the previous transfer window, Luke spoke. Thus, at a time when, with NC still around, there seemed to be little information coming out of SMS, there didn't appear to be a gagging order. JLS suggested that there might be one right now. Given that, unlike November, Luke hasn't spoken this time, it seems highly likely to me that that is the case. Of course, it could also be that Luke (and Adam, Morgan and Dejan for that matter) are all a bit preoccupied right now.[/p][/quote]If there is a 'gag', it might be on players in the England team. Pure speculation, of course, but a possibility, all the same. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

3:03pm Sat 24 May 14

redandy10 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
jls217 wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation?

They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it.

So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away.

No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving.

It's not exactly rocket science!!!
An extremely valid point mate - has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere"
Not to my knowledge but then I guess it could be the press just not asking those questions or wanting to print those replies.
Doesn't detract from your point though and as captain I would have expected Adam to state quite categorically and many times over if he didn't want to go.Could it be the club has put a gagging order on them though?
Guess we all have to wait the summer of misery before we get the answers, pos or neg. I love and hate Saints all at the same time right now. I am a bipolar fan and it's the board causing it. Will noone rid me of this pesky board? Next season is going to tbe the best ever regardless though.
I realise a lot has happened since last November, but many seem to have forgotten what Luke said in this thread:

http://www.dailyecho



.co.uk/sport/1079869



8.Shaw__I_m_not_leav



ing_Saints/
What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014?

Why hasn't he come out and stated CATEGORICALLY that he is staying. If it were his intention wouldn't he do it to put a stop to the rumours which are not good for the club?

Hey I'm willing to say you know what, maybe I'm being too negative. But at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago!

Maybe in November 2013 NC would have said the same, where is he now?
You know this genuinely decent idea you have whereby someone with a point of view on here gets treated with respect? Well, using aggressive language such as, 'What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014?' and 'at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago!' is somewhat in contravention of your 'good idea', isn't it?

I repeat - in capitals - I REALISE A LOT HAS HAPPENED SINCE LAST NOVEMBER. However, the points I am making are that:
1a. JLS asked: 'has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere" Not to my knowledge.' Well, actually, yes, Luke has said it - albeit in November. That remains valid because:
1b. if he said it then and has said nothing to the contrary since, then the only evidence we have doesn't suggest he wants to leave. (NB: I said 'wants to' not 'is going to'.)
2. He highlighted the role the media and social networks play in distorting things; a very relevant point right now. Some seem to take what the press say as fact, yet ignore what those in the press actually say, which I find a bit bizarre.

The final point is that when there was speculation ahead of the previous transfer window, Luke spoke. Thus, at a time when, with NC still around, there seemed to be little information coming out of SMS, there didn't appear to be a gagging order. JLS suggested that there might be one right now. Given that, unlike November, Luke hasn't spoken this time, it seems highly likely to me that that is the case. Of course, it could also be that Luke (and Adam, Morgan and Dejan for that matter) are all a bit preoccupied right now.
Let's hope myself and a fair few others will be proved WRONG!

Time will tell if we were just being negative, or if in fact that we were not letting our love for the club completely cloud our judgement, leading us to post unrealistic nonsense.

I have obviously upset some of the day job threaders! Just look at the petty little catty comments I have endured, Not just that Stras, how about the stalking yours truly has suffered at the hands of that Arfer fellow, some Mark David Chapman type perched behind his sticky little keyboard, doing God knows what while he slugs me with his witty barbs.

And what have we learned from this Stras?

Some people need to GET OUT OF THE HOUSE MORE!!!
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!![/p][/quote]An extremely valid point mate - has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere" Not to my knowledge but then I guess it could be the press just not asking those questions or wanting to print those replies. Doesn't detract from your point though and as captain I would have expected Adam to state quite categorically and many times over if he didn't want to go.Could it be the club has put a gagging order on them though? Guess we all have to wait the summer of misery before we get the answers, pos or neg. I love and hate Saints all at the same time right now. I am a bipolar fan and it's the board causing it. Will noone rid me of this pesky board? Next season is going to tbe the best ever regardless though.[/p][/quote]I realise a lot has happened since last November, but many seem to have forgotten what Luke said in this thread: http://www.dailyecho .co.uk/sport/1079869 8.Shaw__I_m_not_leav ing_Saints/[/p][/quote]What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014? Why hasn't he come out and stated CATEGORICALLY that he is staying. If it were his intention wouldn't he do it to put a stop to the rumours which are not good for the club? Hey I'm willing to say you know what, maybe I'm being too negative. But at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago! Maybe in November 2013 NC would have said the same, where is he now?[/p][/quote]You know this genuinely decent idea you have whereby someone with a point of view on here gets treated with respect? Well, using aggressive language such as, 'What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014?' and 'at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago!' is somewhat in contravention of your 'good idea', isn't it? I repeat - in capitals - I REALISE A LOT HAS HAPPENED SINCE LAST NOVEMBER. However, the points I am making are that: 1a. JLS asked: 'has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere" Not to my knowledge.' Well, actually, yes, Luke has said it - albeit in November. That remains valid because: 1b. if he said it then and has said nothing to the contrary since, then the only evidence we have doesn't suggest he wants to leave. (NB: I said 'wants to' not 'is going to'.) 2. He highlighted the role the media and social networks play in distorting things; a very relevant point right now. Some seem to take what the press say as fact, yet ignore what those in the press actually say, which I find a bit bizarre. The final point is that when there was speculation ahead of the previous transfer window, Luke spoke. Thus, at a time when, with NC still around, there seemed to be little information coming out of SMS, there didn't appear to be a gagging order. JLS suggested that there might be one right now. Given that, unlike November, Luke hasn't spoken this time, it seems highly likely to me that that is the case. Of course, it could also be that Luke (and Adam, Morgan and Dejan for that matter) are all a bit preoccupied right now.[/p][/quote]Let's hope myself and a fair few others will be proved WRONG! Time will tell if we were just being negative, or if in fact that we were not letting our love for the club completely cloud our judgement, leading us to post unrealistic nonsense. I have obviously upset some of the day job threaders! Just look at the petty little catty comments I have endured, Not just that Stras, how about the stalking yours truly has suffered at the hands of that Arfer fellow, some Mark David Chapman type perched behind his sticky little keyboard, doing God knows what while he slugs me with his witty barbs. And what have we learned from this Stras? Some people need to GET OUT OF THE HOUSE MORE!!! redandy10
  • Score: 2

3:04pm Sat 24 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

True, RS. In fact, thinking about it for a moment, I'd have thought it was England FA policy.
True, RS. In fact, thinking about it for a moment, I'd have thought it was England FA policy. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 1

3:06pm Sat 24 May 14

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

The Boy is worth than that mate watch the World Cup and come knocking on our Door!
The Boy is worth than that mate watch the World Cup and come knocking on our Door! Fatty x Ford Worker
  • Score: 5

3:19pm Sat 24 May 14

Rising_Son says...

From Andy: "how about the stalking yours truly has suffered at the hands of that Arfer fellow, some Mark David Chapman type perched behind his sticky little keyboard, doing God knows what while he slugs me with his witty barbs."

Now, what exactly was the witty barb from Arfer that slugged him: "Well never mind eh, It could be much worse. You could for instance live in Portsmouth...And support a shiitty club in Manchester ....but you wouldn't want to do that..... would you !"
From Andy: "how about the stalking yours truly has suffered at the hands of that Arfer fellow, some Mark David Chapman type perched behind his sticky little keyboard, doing God knows what while he slugs me with his witty barbs." Now, what exactly was the witty barb from Arfer that slugged him: "Well never mind eh, It could be much worse. You could for instance live in Portsmouth...And support a shiitty club in Manchester ....but you wouldn't want to do that..... would you !" Rising_Son
  • Score: 2

3:26pm Sat 24 May 14

Rising_Son says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
True, RS. In fact, thinking about it for a moment, I'd have thought it was England FA policy.
Let's believe it whatever. It'll help keep us in reasonably good spirits while we wait for the uncertainty to be replaced with certainty.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: True, RS. In fact, thinking about it for a moment, I'd have thought it was England FA policy.[/p][/quote]Let's believe it whatever. It'll help keep us in reasonably good spirits while we wait for the uncertainty to be replaced with certainty. Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

3:29pm Sat 24 May 14

Rising_Son says...

redandy10 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
jls217 wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation?

They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it.

So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away.

No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving.

It's not exactly rocket science!!!
An extremely valid point mate - has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere"
Not to my knowledge but then I guess it could be the press just not asking those questions or wanting to print those replies.
Doesn't detract from your point though and as captain I would have expected Adam to state quite categorically and many times over if he didn't want to go.Could it be the club has put a gagging order on them though?
Guess we all have to wait the summer of misery before we get the answers, pos or neg. I love and hate Saints all at the same time right now. I am a bipolar fan and it's the board causing it. Will noone rid me of this pesky board? Next season is going to tbe the best ever regardless though.
I realise a lot has happened since last November, but many seem to have forgotten what Luke said in this thread:

http://www.dailyecho




.co.uk/sport/1079869




8.Shaw__I_m_not_leav




ing_Saints/
What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014?

Why hasn't he come out and stated CATEGORICALLY that he is staying. If it were his intention wouldn't he do it to put a stop to the rumours which are not good for the club?

Hey I'm willing to say you know what, maybe I'm being too negative. But at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago!

Maybe in November 2013 NC would have said the same, where is he now?
You know this genuinely decent idea you have whereby someone with a point of view on here gets treated with respect? Well, using aggressive language such as, 'What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014?' and 'at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago!' is somewhat in contravention of your 'good idea', isn't it?

I repeat - in capitals - I REALISE A LOT HAS HAPPENED SINCE LAST NOVEMBER. However, the points I am making are that:
1a. JLS asked: 'has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere" Not to my knowledge.' Well, actually, yes, Luke has said it - albeit in November. That remains valid because:
1b. if he said it then and has said nothing to the contrary since, then the only evidence we have doesn't suggest he wants to leave. (NB: I said 'wants to' not 'is going to'.)
2. He highlighted the role the media and social networks play in distorting things; a very relevant point right now. Some seem to take what the press say as fact, yet ignore what those in the press actually say, which I find a bit bizarre.

The final point is that when there was speculation ahead of the previous transfer window, Luke spoke. Thus, at a time when, with NC still around, there seemed to be little information coming out of SMS, there didn't appear to be a gagging order. JLS suggested that there might be one right now. Given that, unlike November, Luke hasn't spoken this time, it seems highly likely to me that that is the case. Of course, it could also be that Luke (and Adam, Morgan and Dejan for that matter) are all a bit preoccupied right now.
Let's hope myself and a fair few others will be proved WRONG!

Time will tell if we were just being negative, or if in fact that we were not letting our love for the club completely cloud our judgement, leading us to post unrealistic nonsense.

I have obviously upset some of the day job threaders! Just look at the petty little catty comments I have endured, Not just that Stras, how about the stalking yours truly has suffered at the hands of that Arfer fellow, some Mark David Chapman type perched behind his sticky little keyboard, doing God knows what while he slugs me with his witty barbs.

And what have we learned from this Stras?

Some people need to GET OUT OF THE HOUSE MORE!!!
Does that mean we won't be hearing from you for a little while?
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!![/p][/quote]An extremely valid point mate - has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere" Not to my knowledge but then I guess it could be the press just not asking those questions or wanting to print those replies. Doesn't detract from your point though and as captain I would have expected Adam to state quite categorically and many times over if he didn't want to go.Could it be the club has put a gagging order on them though? Guess we all have to wait the summer of misery before we get the answers, pos or neg. I love and hate Saints all at the same time right now. I am a bipolar fan and it's the board causing it. Will noone rid me of this pesky board? Next season is going to tbe the best ever regardless though.[/p][/quote]I realise a lot has happened since last November, but many seem to have forgotten what Luke said in this thread: http://www.dailyecho .co.uk/sport/1079869 8.Shaw__I_m_not_leav ing_Saints/[/p][/quote]What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014? Why hasn't he come out and stated CATEGORICALLY that he is staying. If it were his intention wouldn't he do it to put a stop to the rumours which are not good for the club? Hey I'm willing to say you know what, maybe I'm being too negative. But at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago! Maybe in November 2013 NC would have said the same, where is he now?[/p][/quote]You know this genuinely decent idea you have whereby someone with a point of view on here gets treated with respect? Well, using aggressive language such as, 'What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014?' and 'at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago!' is somewhat in contravention of your 'good idea', isn't it? I repeat - in capitals - I REALISE A LOT HAS HAPPENED SINCE LAST NOVEMBER. However, the points I am making are that: 1a. JLS asked: 'has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere" Not to my knowledge.' Well, actually, yes, Luke has said it - albeit in November. That remains valid because: 1b. if he said it then and has said nothing to the contrary since, then the only evidence we have doesn't suggest he wants to leave. (NB: I said 'wants to' not 'is going to'.) 2. He highlighted the role the media and social networks play in distorting things; a very relevant point right now. Some seem to take what the press say as fact, yet ignore what those in the press actually say, which I find a bit bizarre. The final point is that when there was speculation ahead of the previous transfer window, Luke spoke. Thus, at a time when, with NC still around, there seemed to be little information coming out of SMS, there didn't appear to be a gagging order. JLS suggested that there might be one right now. Given that, unlike November, Luke hasn't spoken this time, it seems highly likely to me that that is the case. Of course, it could also be that Luke (and Adam, Morgan and Dejan for that matter) are all a bit preoccupied right now.[/p][/quote]Let's hope myself and a fair few others will be proved WRONG! Time will tell if we were just being negative, or if in fact that we were not letting our love for the club completely cloud our judgement, leading us to post unrealistic nonsense. I have obviously upset some of the day job threaders! Just look at the petty little catty comments I have endured, Not just that Stras, how about the stalking yours truly has suffered at the hands of that Arfer fellow, some Mark David Chapman type perched behind his sticky little keyboard, doing God knows what while he slugs me with his witty barbs. And what have we learned from this Stras? Some people need to GET OUT OF THE HOUSE MORE!!![/p][/quote]Does that mean we won't be hearing from you for a little while? Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

3:32pm Sat 24 May 14

SaintSteve76 says...

I'm getting fed up of hearing rumour after rumour after rumour! When are we actually going to hear either a statement of intent or some actual news.it's getting just a little bit frustrating! You simply do not know what to believe at the moment althogh the vibes aren't very encouraging seeing as there is just addeafening silence coming from the club. By the way, if David Luiz goes to PSG for £50mil, Lallana and Shaw are worth at least £60mil each!
I'm getting fed up of hearing rumour after rumour after rumour! When are we actually going to hear either a statement of intent or some actual news.it's getting just a little bit frustrating! You simply do not know what to believe at the moment althogh the vibes aren't very encouraging seeing as there is just addeafening silence coming from the club. By the way, if David Luiz goes to PSG for £50mil, Lallana and Shaw are worth at least £60mil each! SaintSteve76
  • Score: 1

3:39pm Sat 24 May 14

redandy10 says...

Rising_Son wrote:
From Andy: "how about the stalking yours truly has suffered at the hands of that Arfer fellow, some Mark David Chapman type perched behind his sticky little keyboard, doing God knows what while he slugs me with his witty barbs."

Now, what exactly was the witty barb from Arfer that slugged him: "Well never mind eh, It could be much worse. You could for instance live in Portsmouth...And support a shiitty club in Manchester ....but you wouldn't want to do that..... would you !"
Again you are lacking in the facts department. He has on previous occasions used very rude terms to describe yours truly, which would have seen him banned from the site if he had been reported. All of which i'm sure the DE could lay its hands on.

Plus the vast majority of his posts have been replies to my posts, and not particularly flattering I'll have you know. And this, Rising, over a span of a year would constitute stalking, in MOST peoples book.

Again you seem to be fixated on trying to prove me wrong.
Give it up, surly you have better things to do!
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: From Andy: "how about the stalking yours truly has suffered at the hands of that Arfer fellow, some Mark David Chapman type perched behind his sticky little keyboard, doing God knows what while he slugs me with his witty barbs." Now, what exactly was the witty barb from Arfer that slugged him: "Well never mind eh, It could be much worse. You could for instance live in Portsmouth...And support a shiitty club in Manchester ....but you wouldn't want to do that..... would you !"[/p][/quote]Again you are lacking in the facts department. He has on previous occasions used very rude terms to describe yours truly, which would have seen him banned from the site if he had been reported. All of which i'm sure the DE could lay its hands on. Plus the vast majority of his posts have been replies to my posts, and not particularly flattering I'll have you know. And this, Rising, over a span of a year would constitute stalking, in MOST peoples book. Again you seem to be fixated on trying to prove me wrong. Give it up, surly you have better things to do! redandy10
  • Score: 0

3:47pm Sat 24 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

redandy10 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
jls217 wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation?

They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it.

So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away.

No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving.

It's not exactly rocket science!!!
An extremely valid point mate - has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere"
Not to my knowledge but then I guess it could be the press just not asking those questions or wanting to print those replies.
Doesn't detract from your point though and as captain I would have expected Adam to state quite categorically and many times over if he didn't want to go.Could it be the club has put a gagging order on them though?
Guess we all have to wait the summer of misery before we get the answers, pos or neg. I love and hate Saints all at the same time right now. I am a bipolar fan and it's the board causing it. Will noone rid me of this pesky board? Next season is going to tbe the best ever regardless though.
I realise a lot has happened since last November, but many seem to have forgotten what Luke said in this thread:

http://www.dailyecho




.co.uk/sport/1079869




8.Shaw__I_m_not_leav




ing_Saints/
What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014?

Why hasn't he come out and stated CATEGORICALLY that he is staying. If it were his intention wouldn't he do it to put a stop to the rumours which are not good for the club?

Hey I'm willing to say you know what, maybe I'm being too negative. But at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago!

Maybe in November 2013 NC would have said the same, where is he now?
You know this genuinely decent idea you have whereby someone with a point of view on here gets treated with respect? Well, using aggressive language such as, 'What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014?' and 'at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago!' is somewhat in contravention of your 'good idea', isn't it?

I repeat - in capitals - I REALISE A LOT HAS HAPPENED SINCE LAST NOVEMBER. However, the points I am making are that:
1a. JLS asked: 'has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere" Not to my knowledge.' Well, actually, yes, Luke has said it - albeit in November. That remains valid because:
1b. if he said it then and has said nothing to the contrary since, then the only evidence we have doesn't suggest he wants to leave. (NB: I said 'wants to' not 'is going to'.)
2. He highlighted the role the media and social networks play in distorting things; a very relevant point right now. Some seem to take what the press say as fact, yet ignore what those in the press actually say, which I find a bit bizarre.

The final point is that when there was speculation ahead of the previous transfer window, Luke spoke. Thus, at a time when, with NC still around, there seemed to be little information coming out of SMS, there didn't appear to be a gagging order. JLS suggested that there might be one right now. Given that, unlike November, Luke hasn't spoken this time, it seems highly likely to me that that is the case. Of course, it could also be that Luke (and Adam, Morgan and Dejan for that matter) are all a bit preoccupied right now.
Let's hope myself and a fair few others will be proved WRONG!

Time will tell if we were just being negative, or if in fact that we were not letting our love for the club completely cloud our judgement, leading us to post unrealistic nonsense.

I have obviously upset some of the day job threaders! Just look at the petty little catty comments I have endured, Not just that Stras, how about the stalking yours truly has suffered at the hands of that Arfer fellow, some Mark David Chapman type perched behind his sticky little keyboard, doing God knows what while he slugs me with his witty barbs.

And what have we learned from this Stras?

Some people need to GET OUT OF THE HOUSE MORE!!!
Perhaps that's the difference between those perceived as negative and those perceived as positive (it's just a thought, no more). Just like Alicesdad, I don't know what's going on. I can guess and I can put theories forward, but, in the end, I've nothing to be proved right or wrong about because I simply don't know, and I try to base my views only on what has actually been said by those involved, and I have chosen to regard the media stuff as groundless unless proved otherwise.

So far, nothing has been said by anyone at the club which suggests clearly that MP or any of our top players are leaving. Maybe one or more of them will leave, maybe no one will leave.

Many of those branded as negative, such as you Redandy10, back up their opinions on this matter by quoting as fact things that have been reported in the press (some reported as so called 'fact' and others reported as 'speculation'). There's nothing wrong with basing your opinions on these reports but they AREN'T facts and won't be facts unless confirmed by the club. If you think that you will have been 'proved right' if any one of the transfers goes ahead, then so be it. As you say, we all hope you're wrong.

Meanwhile, you're right, all of us - you included - should get off this thread and get out more. I'm not going out of the house, but I will venture to the fridge. Time for a cold one.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!![/p][/quote]An extremely valid point mate - has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere" Not to my knowledge but then I guess it could be the press just not asking those questions or wanting to print those replies. Doesn't detract from your point though and as captain I would have expected Adam to state quite categorically and many times over if he didn't want to go.Could it be the club has put a gagging order on them though? Guess we all have to wait the summer of misery before we get the answers, pos or neg. I love and hate Saints all at the same time right now. I am a bipolar fan and it's the board causing it. Will noone rid me of this pesky board? Next season is going to tbe the best ever regardless though.[/p][/quote]I realise a lot has happened since last November, but many seem to have forgotten what Luke said in this thread: http://www.dailyecho .co.uk/sport/1079869 8.Shaw__I_m_not_leav ing_Saints/[/p][/quote]What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014? Why hasn't he come out and stated CATEGORICALLY that he is staying. If it were his intention wouldn't he do it to put a stop to the rumours which are not good for the club? Hey I'm willing to say you know what, maybe I'm being too negative. But at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago! Maybe in November 2013 NC would have said the same, where is he now?[/p][/quote]You know this genuinely decent idea you have whereby someone with a point of view on here gets treated with respect? Well, using aggressive language such as, 'What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014?' and 'at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago!' is somewhat in contravention of your 'good idea', isn't it? I repeat - in capitals - I REALISE A LOT HAS HAPPENED SINCE LAST NOVEMBER. However, the points I am making are that: 1a. JLS asked: 'has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere" Not to my knowledge.' Well, actually, yes, Luke has said it - albeit in November. That remains valid because: 1b. if he said it then and has said nothing to the contrary since, then the only evidence we have doesn't suggest he wants to leave. (NB: I said 'wants to' not 'is going to'.) 2. He highlighted the role the media and social networks play in distorting things; a very relevant point right now. Some seem to take what the press say as fact, yet ignore what those in the press actually say, which I find a bit bizarre. The final point is that when there was speculation ahead of the previous transfer window, Luke spoke. Thus, at a time when, with NC still around, there seemed to be little information coming out of SMS, there didn't appear to be a gagging order. JLS suggested that there might be one right now. Given that, unlike November, Luke hasn't spoken this time, it seems highly likely to me that that is the case. Of course, it could also be that Luke (and Adam, Morgan and Dejan for that matter) are all a bit preoccupied right now.[/p][/quote]Let's hope myself and a fair few others will be proved WRONG! Time will tell if we were just being negative, or if in fact that we were not letting our love for the club completely cloud our judgement, leading us to post unrealistic nonsense. I have obviously upset some of the day job threaders! Just look at the petty little catty comments I have endured, Not just that Stras, how about the stalking yours truly has suffered at the hands of that Arfer fellow, some Mark David Chapman type perched behind his sticky little keyboard, doing God knows what while he slugs me with his witty barbs. And what have we learned from this Stras? Some people need to GET OUT OF THE HOUSE MORE!!![/p][/quote]Perhaps that's the difference between those perceived as negative and those perceived as positive (it's just a thought, no more). Just like Alicesdad, I don't know what's going on. I can guess and I can put theories forward, but, in the end, I've nothing to be proved right or wrong about because I simply don't know, and I try to base my views only on what has actually been said by those involved, and I have chosen to regard the media stuff as groundless unless proved otherwise. So far, nothing has been said by anyone at the club which suggests clearly that MP or any of our top players are leaving. Maybe one or more of them will leave, maybe no one will leave. Many of those branded as negative, such as you Redandy10, back up their opinions on this matter by quoting as fact things that have been reported in the press (some reported as so called 'fact' and others reported as 'speculation'). There's nothing wrong with basing your opinions on these reports but they AREN'T facts and won't be facts unless confirmed by the club. If you think that you will have been 'proved right' if any one of the transfers goes ahead, then so be it. As you say, we all hope you're wrong. Meanwhile, you're right, all of us - you included - should get off this thread and get out more. I'm not going out of the house, but I will venture to the fridge. Time for a cold one. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 2

3:51pm Sat 24 May 14

redandy10 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
jls217 wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation?

They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it.

So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away.

No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving.

It's not exactly rocket science!!!
An extremely valid point mate - has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere"
Not to my knowledge but then I guess it could be the press just not asking those questions or wanting to print those replies.
Doesn't detract from your point though and as captain I would have expected Adam to state quite categorically and many times over if he didn't want to go.Could it be the club has put a gagging order on them though?
Guess we all have to wait the summer of misery before we get the answers, pos or neg. I love and hate Saints all at the same time right now. I am a bipolar fan and it's the board causing it. Will noone rid me of this pesky board? Next season is going to tbe the best ever regardless though.
I realise a lot has happened since last November, but many seem to have forgotten what Luke said in this thread:

http://www.dailyecho





.co.uk/sport/1079869





8.Shaw__I_m_not_leav





ing_Saints/
What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014?

Why hasn't he come out and stated CATEGORICALLY that he is staying. If it were his intention wouldn't he do it to put a stop to the rumours which are not good for the club?

Hey I'm willing to say you know what, maybe I'm being too negative. But at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago!

Maybe in November 2013 NC would have said the same, where is he now?
You know this genuinely decent idea you have whereby someone with a point of view on here gets treated with respect? Well, using aggressive language such as, 'What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014?' and 'at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago!' is somewhat in contravention of your 'good idea', isn't it?

I repeat - in capitals - I REALISE A LOT HAS HAPPENED SINCE LAST NOVEMBER. However, the points I am making are that:
1a. JLS asked: 'has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere" Not to my knowledge.' Well, actually, yes, Luke has said it - albeit in November. That remains valid because:
1b. if he said it then and has said nothing to the contrary since, then the only evidence we have doesn't suggest he wants to leave. (NB: I said 'wants to' not 'is going to'.)
2. He highlighted the role the media and social networks play in distorting things; a very relevant point right now. Some seem to take what the press say as fact, yet ignore what those in the press actually say, which I find a bit bizarre.

The final point is that when there was speculation ahead of the previous transfer window, Luke spoke. Thus, at a time when, with NC still around, there seemed to be little information coming out of SMS, there didn't appear to be a gagging order. JLS suggested that there might be one right now. Given that, unlike November, Luke hasn't spoken this time, it seems highly likely to me that that is the case. Of course, it could also be that Luke (and Adam, Morgan and Dejan for that matter) are all a bit preoccupied right now.
Let's hope myself and a fair few others will be proved WRONG!

Time will tell if we were just being negative, or if in fact that we were not letting our love for the club completely cloud our judgement, leading us to post unrealistic nonsense.

I have obviously upset some of the day job threaders! Just look at the petty little catty comments I have endured, Not just that Stras, how about the stalking yours truly has suffered at the hands of that Arfer fellow, some Mark David Chapman type perched behind his sticky little keyboard, doing God knows what while he slugs me with his witty barbs.

And what have we learned from this Stras?

Some people need to GET OUT OF THE HOUSE MORE!!!
Perhaps that's the difference between those perceived as negative and those perceived as positive (it's just a thought, no more). Just like Alicesdad, I don't know what's going on. I can guess and I can put theories forward, but, in the end, I've nothing to be proved right or wrong about because I simply don't know, and I try to base my views only on what has actually been said by those involved, and I have chosen to regard the media stuff as groundless unless proved otherwise.

So far, nothing has been said by anyone at the club which suggests clearly that MP or any of our top players are leaving. Maybe one or more of them will leave, maybe no one will leave.

Many of those branded as negative, such as you Redandy10, back up their opinions on this matter by quoting as fact things that have been reported in the press (some reported as so called 'fact' and others reported as 'speculation'). There's nothing wrong with basing your opinions on these reports but they AREN'T facts and won't be facts unless confirmed by the club. If you think that you will have been 'proved right' if any one of the transfers goes ahead, then so be it. As you say, we all hope you're wrong.

Meanwhile, you're right, all of us - you included - should get off this thread and get out more. I'm not going out of the house, but I will venture to the fridge. Time for a cold one.
Good idea, i think i'll do the same!
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!![/p][/quote]An extremely valid point mate - has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere" Not to my knowledge but then I guess it could be the press just not asking those questions or wanting to print those replies. Doesn't detract from your point though and as captain I would have expected Adam to state quite categorically and many times over if he didn't want to go.Could it be the club has put a gagging order on them though? Guess we all have to wait the summer of misery before we get the answers, pos or neg. I love and hate Saints all at the same time right now. I am a bipolar fan and it's the board causing it. Will noone rid me of this pesky board? Next season is going to tbe the best ever regardless though.[/p][/quote]I realise a lot has happened since last November, but many seem to have forgotten what Luke said in this thread: http://www.dailyecho .co.uk/sport/1079869 8.Shaw__I_m_not_leav ing_Saints/[/p][/quote]What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014? Why hasn't he come out and stated CATEGORICALLY that he is staying. If it were his intention wouldn't he do it to put a stop to the rumours which are not good for the club? Hey I'm willing to say you know what, maybe I'm being too negative. But at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago! Maybe in November 2013 NC would have said the same, where is he now?[/p][/quote]You know this genuinely decent idea you have whereby someone with a point of view on here gets treated with respect? Well, using aggressive language such as, 'What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014?' and 'at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago!' is somewhat in contravention of your 'good idea', isn't it? I repeat - in capitals - I REALISE A LOT HAS HAPPENED SINCE LAST NOVEMBER. However, the points I am making are that: 1a. JLS asked: 'has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere" Not to my knowledge.' Well, actually, yes, Luke has said it - albeit in November. That remains valid because: 1b. if he said it then and has said nothing to the contrary since, then the only evidence we have doesn't suggest he wants to leave. (NB: I said 'wants to' not 'is going to'.) 2. He highlighted the role the media and social networks play in distorting things; a very relevant point right now. Some seem to take what the press say as fact, yet ignore what those in the press actually say, which I find a bit bizarre. The final point is that when there was speculation ahead of the previous transfer window, Luke spoke. Thus, at a time when, with NC still around, there seemed to be little information coming out of SMS, there didn't appear to be a gagging order. JLS suggested that there might be one right now. Given that, unlike November, Luke hasn't spoken this time, it seems highly likely to me that that is the case. Of course, it could also be that Luke (and Adam, Morgan and Dejan for that matter) are all a bit preoccupied right now.[/p][/quote]Let's hope myself and a fair few others will be proved WRONG! Time will tell if we were just being negative, or if in fact that we were not letting our love for the club completely cloud our judgement, leading us to post unrealistic nonsense. I have obviously upset some of the day job threaders! Just look at the petty little catty comments I have endured, Not just that Stras, how about the stalking yours truly has suffered at the hands of that Arfer fellow, some Mark David Chapman type perched behind his sticky little keyboard, doing God knows what while he slugs me with his witty barbs. And what have we learned from this Stras? Some people need to GET OUT OF THE HOUSE MORE!!![/p][/quote]Perhaps that's the difference between those perceived as negative and those perceived as positive (it's just a thought, no more). Just like Alicesdad, I don't know what's going on. I can guess and I can put theories forward, but, in the end, I've nothing to be proved right or wrong about because I simply don't know, and I try to base my views only on what has actually been said by those involved, and I have chosen to regard the media stuff as groundless unless proved otherwise. So far, nothing has been said by anyone at the club which suggests clearly that MP or any of our top players are leaving. Maybe one or more of them will leave, maybe no one will leave. Many of those branded as negative, such as you Redandy10, back up their opinions on this matter by quoting as fact things that have been reported in the press (some reported as so called 'fact' and others reported as 'speculation'). There's nothing wrong with basing your opinions on these reports but they AREN'T facts and won't be facts unless confirmed by the club. If you think that you will have been 'proved right' if any one of the transfers goes ahead, then so be it. As you say, we all hope you're wrong. Meanwhile, you're right, all of us - you included - should get off this thread and get out more. I'm not going out of the house, but I will venture to the fridge. Time for a cold one.[/p][/quote]Good idea, i think i'll do the same! redandy10
  • Score: 1

4:00pm Sat 24 May 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Malcombe wrote:
van Gobble I have just had a look on that site and you are correct it's definitely MoPo, lets hope that it's his son and a friend behind him and they are going to the Departure Lounge, it really made my stomach churn after what I've just posted
I wouldn't worry Malcolmbe, even if it is a picture of Poch,which is open to debate,the question mark at the end of the heading" ...seen at Spurs training ground?",gives the game away.A well known press ruse to make a hypothetical question,look at first glance,like a statement of fact.
Relax. :0)
[quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: van Gobble I have just had a look on that site and you are correct it's definitely MoPo, lets hope that it's his son and a friend behind him and they are going to the Departure Lounge, it really made my stomach churn after what I've just posted[/p][/quote]I wouldn't worry Malcolmbe, even if it is a picture of Poch,which is open to debate,the question mark at the end of the heading" ...seen at Spurs training ground?",gives the game away.A well known press ruse to make a hypothetical question,look at first glance,like a statement of fact. Relax. :0) Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

4:06pm Sat 24 May 14

southamptonadi says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
True, RS. In fact, thinking about it for a moment, I'd have thought it was England FA policy.
Let's believe it whatever. It'll help keep us in reasonably good spirits while we wait for the uncertainty to be replaced with certainty.
I remember reading something about a gag after the Gerard to Chelsea media frenzy that ruined a World Cup.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: True, RS. In fact, thinking about it for a moment, I'd have thought it was England FA policy.[/p][/quote]Let's believe it whatever. It'll help keep us in reasonably good spirits while we wait for the uncertainty to be replaced with certainty.[/p][/quote]I remember reading something about a gag after the Gerard to Chelsea media frenzy that ruined a World Cup. southamptonadi
  • Score: 0

4:06pm Sat 24 May 14

dadofmy3sons says...

all of you who say only facts.
Why have no posters at all helped with my confusion regarding the "dismissal" of Doddy + Wiiliams?

Seems to me that everyone is dodging that issue, or have I missed something?
all of you who say only facts. Why have no posters at all helped with my confusion regarding the "dismissal" of Doddy + Wiiliams? Seems to me that everyone is dodging that issue, or have I missed something? dadofmy3sons
  • Score: 0

4:22pm Sat 24 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

dadofmy3sons wrote:
all of you who say only facts.
Why have no posters at all helped with my confusion regarding the "dismissal" of Doddy + Wiiliams?

Seems to me that everyone is dodging that issue, or have I missed something?
problem is no one knows whats happened. we don't know if they've been fired (though it all points to the fact they have), we don't know if they are just suspended or even still with the club.
until the club tells us what has happened we wont know.
what everyone has assumed is that they have been let go, but that's it.
[quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: all of you who say only facts. Why have no posters at all helped with my confusion regarding the "dismissal" of Doddy + Wiiliams? Seems to me that everyone is dodging that issue, or have I missed something?[/p][/quote]problem is no one knows whats happened. we don't know if they've been fired (though it all points to the fact they have), we don't know if they are just suspended or even still with the club. until the club tells us what has happened we wont know. what everyone has assumed is that they have been let go, but that's it. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 0

4:22pm Sat 24 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

dadofmy3sons wrote:
all of you who say only facts.
Why have no posters at all helped with my confusion regarding the "dismissal" of Doddy + Wiiliams?

Seems to me that everyone is dodging that issue, or have I missed something?
I don't think any of us knows, DOM3S. They have gone and there seems to be some legal challenge which means that those involved are not able to comment.

As with everything, time will out. Meanwhile, I recommend a cold one.
[quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: all of you who say only facts. Why have no posters at all helped with my confusion regarding the "dismissal" of Doddy + Wiiliams? Seems to me that everyone is dodging that issue, or have I missed something?[/p][/quote]I don't think any of us knows, DOM3S. They have gone and there seems to be some legal challenge which means that those involved are not able to comment. As with everything, time will out. Meanwhile, I recommend a cold one. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 0

4:53pm Sat 24 May 14

dadofmy3sons says...

This is a fact
we will play QPR next season
This is a fact we will play QPR next season dadofmy3sons
  • Score: 2

4:55pm Sat 24 May 14

miltonarcher says...

http://metro.co.uk/2
014/05/23/mauricio-p
ochettino-to-remain-
at-southampton-and-s
nub-tottenhams-advan
ces-4737950/
http://metro.co.uk/2 014/05/23/mauricio-p ochettino-to-remain- at-southampton-and-s nub-tottenhams-advan ces-4737950/ miltonarcher
  • Score: 2

4:58pm Sat 24 May 14

ChapelEndCharlie says...

What about some good news - Sam Gallagher scores in England U19 wiin over Montenegro (6-1) with Matty Targett making another of the goals wioth a superb cross!
What about some good news - Sam Gallagher scores in England U19 wiin over Montenegro (6-1) with Matty Targett making another of the goals wioth a superb cross! ChapelEndCharlie
  • Score: 1

4:58pm Sat 24 May 14

ChapelEndCharlie says...

Sorry, score was 6-0 before someone corrects me
Sorry, score was 6-0 before someone corrects me ChapelEndCharlie
  • Score: 0

4:58pm Sat 24 May 14

dadofmy3sons says...

new rumour I am just starting.
Neil Lennon to come in as Manager with Poch going to some foreign dump.
Neil brings Forster and the centre back who is quite good with him.
Rumour that he offered all the first team squad a scrap in the car park if they were thinking of leaving and there were no takers.
Also allegedly headbutted Levy for making derisory bids.
new rumour I am just starting. Neil Lennon to come in as Manager with Poch going to some foreign dump. Neil brings Forster and the centre back who is quite good with him. Rumour that he offered all the first team squad a scrap in the car park if they were thinking of leaving and there were no takers. Also allegedly headbutted Levy for making derisory bids. dadofmy3sons
  • Score: -4

4:59pm Sat 24 May 14

DisplacedFan says...

With QPR going up, looking forward to kicking Harry where he deserves it next season!
With QPR going up, looking forward to kicking Harry where he deserves it next season! DisplacedFan
  • Score: 0

5:09pm Sat 24 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

DisplacedFan wrote:
With QPR going up, looking forward to kicking Harry where he deserves it next season!
Lets hope we can help send him back down!
Cant believe they won that game, or that we are going to have to put up with the media love in again!
Sweep stake.
Which of our squad will be the first to be rumoured with a bid from qpr,
I'm going for Hoover
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: With QPR going up, looking forward to kicking Harry where he deserves it next season![/p][/quote]Lets hope we can help send him back down! Cant believe they won that game, or that we are going to have to put up with the media love in again! Sweep stake. Which of our squad will be the first to be rumoured with a bid from qpr, I'm going for Hoover el caballo santos101
  • Score: 0

5:12pm Sat 24 May 14

dadofmy3sons says...

ChapelEndCharlie wrote:
What about some good news - Sam Gallagher scores in England U19 wiin over Montenegro (6-1) with Matty Targett making another of the goals wioth a superb cross!
and JWP captains England U20's
Josh Sims wins a Euro medal at U17
Calum Chambers, Matt Targett + Harrison Reed are also in th U19 squad
Lloyd Isgrove is in Welsh U21's

Why would we need to buy anybody with that lot coming through?
[quote][p][bold]ChapelEndCharlie[/bold] wrote: What about some good news - Sam Gallagher scores in England U19 wiin over Montenegro (6-1) with Matty Targett making another of the goals wioth a superb cross![/p][/quote]and JWP captains England U20's Josh Sims wins a Euro medal at U17 Calum Chambers, Matt Targett + Harrison Reed are also in th U19 squad Lloyd Isgrove is in Welsh U21's Why would we need to buy anybody with that lot coming through? dadofmy3sons
  • Score: 3

5:14pm Sat 24 May 14

andygoater1957 says...

So in which kit are we wearing next season
So in which kit are we wearing next season andygoater1957
  • Score: 0

5:17pm Sat 24 May 14

Invidia says...

It doesn't look as if anyone on here has noticed that the silence coming from the board and players has really put Saints in the spot light and really raised the profile. I doubt if there is anyone in football who doesn't know who exactly Saints are we are really on the map now, all this publicity has not cost the board anything and before anyone says that most of the publicity is negative remember there is no such thing as bad publicity. just remember also, our board have been recruited from big business and are aware of every trick in the trade contrary to what some posters on here think.
The publicity makes it more easy to sign players to strengthening our squad.
It doesn't look as if anyone on here has noticed that the silence coming from the board and players has really put Saints in the spot light and really raised the profile. I doubt if there is anyone in football who doesn't know who exactly Saints are we are really on the map now, all this publicity has not cost the board anything and before anyone says that most of the publicity is negative remember there is no such thing as bad publicity. just remember also, our board have been recruited from big business and are aware of every trick in the trade contrary to what some posters on here think. The publicity makes it more easy to sign players to strengthening our squad. Invidia
  • Score: 13

5:33pm Sat 24 May 14

jls217 says...

Invidia wrote:
It doesn't look as if anyone on here has noticed that the silence coming from the board and players has really put Saints in the spot light and really raised the profile. I doubt if there is anyone in football who doesn't know who exactly Saints are we are really on the map now, all this publicity has not cost the board anything and before anyone says that most of the publicity is negative remember there is no such thing as bad publicity. just remember also, our board have been recruited from big business and are aware of every trick in the trade contrary to what some posters on here think.
The publicity makes it more easy to sign players to strengthening our squad.
Invidia - Not sure if it's true or not but the way you put it sorta makes sense in my non-media savvy head. Certainly food for thought.
Doesn't mean they haven't frustrated the carp out me with so much at stake but prepared to forgive them for that if your explanation rings true - and I've not yet read a more logical one..
Great post - thanks.
[quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: It doesn't look as if anyone on here has noticed that the silence coming from the board and players has really put Saints in the spot light and really raised the profile. I doubt if there is anyone in football who doesn't know who exactly Saints are we are really on the map now, all this publicity has not cost the board anything and before anyone says that most of the publicity is negative remember there is no such thing as bad publicity. just remember also, our board have been recruited from big business and are aware of every trick in the trade contrary to what some posters on here think. The publicity makes it more easy to sign players to strengthening our squad.[/p][/quote]Invidia - Not sure if it's true or not but the way you put it sorta makes sense in my non-media savvy head. Certainly food for thought. Doesn't mean they haven't frustrated the carp out me with so much at stake but prepared to forgive them for that if your explanation rings true - and I've not yet read a more logical one.. Great post - thanks. jls217
  • Score: 5

7:05pm Sat 24 May 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

dadofmy3sons wrote:
ChapelEndCharlie wrote: What about some good news - Sam Gallagher scores in England U19 wiin over Montenegro (6-1) with Matty Targett making another of the goals wioth a superb cross!
and JWP captains England U20's Josh Sims wins a Euro medal at U17 Calum Chambers, Matt Targett + Harrison Reed are also in th U19 squad Lloyd Isgrove is in Welsh U21's Why would we need to buy anybody with that lot coming through?
Still need to strenghten with a TOP STRIKER.

Still need a credible No 2 Goalie to challenge Arrtur.

Still need to strengthen at CB.

Yes we have Youth - biut also need to spend THIS SUMMER.
[quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChapelEndCharlie[/bold] wrote: What about some good news - Sam Gallagher scores in England U19 wiin over Montenegro (6-1) with Matty Targett making another of the goals wioth a superb cross![/p][/quote]and JWP captains England U20's Josh Sims wins a Euro medal at U17 Calum Chambers, Matt Targett + Harrison Reed are also in th U19 squad Lloyd Isgrove is in Welsh U21's Why would we need to buy anybody with that lot coming through?[/p][/quote]Still need to strenghten with a TOP STRIKER. Still need a credible No 2 Goalie to challenge Arrtur. Still need to strengthen at CB. Yes we have Youth - biut also need to spend THIS SUMMER. The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 1

7:07pm Sat 24 May 14

redsnapper says...

I reckon Cool Hand Luke might well stay. As Pards remarked earlier this season Saints young guns are not only gifted on the pitch , they also have brains and can think independently, unlike the Echo scribblers.
I reckon Cool Hand Luke might well stay. As Pards remarked earlier this season Saints young guns are not only gifted on the pitch , they also have brains and can think independently, unlike the Echo scribblers. redsnapper
  • Score: 2

7:16pm Sat 24 May 14

Invidia says...

Mauricio Pochettino set to snub Spurs and sign new Southampton deal


By Jack Watson

Posted on May 24, 2014

Southampton have been handed great news as Mauricio Pochettino is set to snub Tottenham Hotspur’s advances and sign a new deal at the south coast club, according to the Metro.

This is the latest on Newsnow
Mauricio Pochettino set to snub Spurs and sign new Southampton deal By Jack Watson Posted on May 24, 2014 Southampton have been handed great news as Mauricio Pochettino is set to snub Tottenham Hotspur’s advances and sign a new deal at the south coast club, according to the Metro. This is the latest on Newsnow Invidia
  • Score: 3

7:40pm Sat 24 May 14

Costa Baz says...

Curse the bank holiday.

Expect we'll have to wait until Tuesday, at least, for any comments.

Using the Swiss connection, Murat Yakin has left FC Basel.
I'm sure he will be linked soon enough
Curse the bank holiday. Expect we'll have to wait until Tuesday, at least, for any comments. Using the Swiss connection, Murat Yakin has left FC Basel. I'm sure he will be linked soon enough Costa Baz
  • Score: 0

7:41pm Sat 24 May 14

Costa Baz says...

Costa Baz wrote:
Curse the bank holiday.

Expect we'll have to wait until Tuesday, at least, for any comments.

Using the Swiss connection, Murat Yakin has left FC Basel.
I'm sure he will be linked soon enough
Comments from the club, that is.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: Curse the bank holiday. Expect we'll have to wait until Tuesday, at least, for any comments. Using the Swiss connection, Murat Yakin has left FC Basel. I'm sure he will be linked soon enough[/p][/quote]Comments from the club, that is. Costa Baz
  • Score: 1

8:49pm Sat 24 May 14

st bevois says...

dadofmy3sons wrote:
This is a fact
we will play QPR next season
No - we will t-play them :-) !!!!!
[quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: This is a fact we will play QPR next season[/p][/quote]No - we will t-play them :-) !!!!! st bevois
  • Score: 0

8:55pm Sat 24 May 14

st bevois says...

"out-play them" !!! No wonder I don't bother posting sometimes on this site with letters going astray.
"out-play them" !!! No wonder I don't bother posting sometimes on this site with letters going astray. st bevois
  • Score: 1

9:07pm Sat 24 May 14

DisplacedFan says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
With QPR going up, looking forward to kicking Harry where he deserves it next season!
Lets hope we can help send him back down!
Cant believe they won that game, or that we are going to have to put up with the media love in again!
Sweep stake.
Which of our squad will be the first to be rumoured with a bid from qpr,
I'm going for Hoover
Guly! Six points from them next season.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: With QPR going up, looking forward to kicking Harry where he deserves it next season![/p][/quote]Lets hope we can help send him back down! Cant believe they won that game, or that we are going to have to put up with the media love in again! Sweep stake. Which of our squad will be the first to be rumoured with a bid from qpr, I'm going for Hoover[/p][/quote]Guly! Six points from them next season. DisplacedFan
  • Score: 0

9:18pm Sat 24 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Chris Waddle on the BBC about Atletico: "The difference between the two sides is that Atletico work harder than any other team. They're good players, they're economical, they pass it well and when they don't have the ball they work incredibly hard to get it back."

Sound familiar?

...... and they play in red and white stripes. I so hope we get our stripes back before we win the Prem and Champions League double.
Chris Waddle on the BBC about Atletico: "The difference between the two sides is that Atletico work harder than any other team. They're good players, they're economical, they pass it well and when they don't have the ball they work incredibly hard to get it back." Sound familiar? ...... and they play in red and white stripes. I so hope we get our stripes back before we win the Prem and Champions League double. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 1

9:45pm Sat 24 May 14

redsnapper says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Chris Waddle on the BBC about Atletico: "The difference between the two sides is that Atletico work harder than any other team. They're good players, they're economical, they pass it well and when they don't have the ball they work incredibly hard to get it back."

Sound familiar?

...... and they play in red and white stripes. I so hope we get our stripes back before we win the Prem and Champions League double.
When did Boruc move to Real??
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Chris Waddle on the BBC about Atletico: "The difference between the two sides is that Atletico work harder than any other team. They're good players, they're economical, they pass it well and when they don't have the ball they work incredibly hard to get it back." Sound familiar? ...... and they play in red and white stripes. I so hope we get our stripes back before we win the Prem and Champions League double.[/p][/quote]When did Boruc move to Real?? redsnapper
  • Score: 0

9:45pm Sat 24 May 14

redsnapper says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Chris Waddle on the BBC about Atletico: "The difference between the two sides is that Atletico work harder than any other team. They're good players, they're economical, they pass it well and when they don't have the ball they work incredibly hard to get it back."

Sound familiar?

...... and they play in red and white stripes. I so hope we get our stripes back before we win the Prem and Champions League double.
When did Boruc move to Real??
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Chris Waddle on the BBC about Atletico: "The difference between the two sides is that Atletico work harder than any other team. They're good players, they're economical, they pass it well and when they don't have the ball they work incredibly hard to get it back." Sound familiar? ...... and they play in red and white stripes. I so hope we get our stripes back before we win the Prem and Champions League double.[/p][/quote]When did Boruc move to Real?? redsnapper
  • Score: 0

10:12pm Sat 24 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

redsnapper wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Chris Waddle on the BBC about Atletico: "The difference between the two sides is that Atletico work harder than any other team. They're good players, they're economical, they pass it well and when they don't have the ball they work incredibly hard to get it back."

Sound familiar?

...... and they play in red and white stripes. I so hope we get our stripes back before we win the Prem and Champions League double.
When did Boruc move to Real??
Not sure, but as Bale has just netted what might be the Real winner, it's worth noting that it's not that far from the Saints academy to the Champions League Final. I just hope those good enough to achieve it might one day do it in a Saints' shirt.
[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Chris Waddle on the BBC about Atletico: "The difference between the two sides is that Atletico work harder than any other team. They're good players, they're economical, they pass it well and when they don't have the ball they work incredibly hard to get it back." Sound familiar? ...... and they play in red and white stripes. I so hope we get our stripes back before we win the Prem and Champions League double.[/p][/quote]When did Boruc move to Real??[/p][/quote]Not sure, but as Bale has just netted what might be the Real winner, it's worth noting that it's not that far from the Saints academy to the Champions League Final. I just hope those good enough to achieve it might one day do it in a Saints' shirt. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 2

10:21pm Sat 24 May 14

M.U.CS1 says...

Hope Shaw and La La, saw Bales goal, will give them the inspiration to leave for a bigger club and play on the world stage, it ain't gonna happen where they are at the moment that's for shaw !
Hope Shaw and La La, saw Bales goal, will give them the inspiration to leave for a bigger club and play on the world stage, it ain't gonna happen where they are at the moment that's for shaw ! M.U.CS1
  • Score: -12

10:41pm Sat 24 May 14

jls217 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Chris Waddle on the BBC about Atletico: "The difference between the two sides is that Atletico work harder than any other team. They're good players, they're economical, they pass it well and when they don't have the ball they work incredibly hard to get it back."

Sound familiar?

...... and they play in red and white stripes. I so hope we get our stripes back before we win the Prem and Champions League double.
When did Boruc move to Real??
Not sure, but as Bale has just netted what might be the Real winner, it's worth noting that it's not that far from the Saints academy to the Champions League Final. I just hope those good enough to achieve it might one day do it in a Saints' shirt.
We'll have to wait and see on that one won't we.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Chris Waddle on the BBC about Atletico: "The difference between the two sides is that Atletico work harder than any other team. They're good players, they're economical, they pass it well and when they don't have the ball they work incredibly hard to get it back." Sound familiar? ...... and they play in red and white stripes. I so hope we get our stripes back before we win the Prem and Champions League double.[/p][/quote]When did Boruc move to Real??[/p][/quote]Not sure, but as Bale has just netted what might be the Real winner, it's worth noting that it's not that far from the Saints academy to the Champions League Final. I just hope those good enough to achieve it might one day do it in a Saints' shirt.[/p][/quote]We'll have to wait and see on that one won't we. jls217
  • Score: 0

10:50pm Sat 24 May 14

Clever Dick says...

M.U.CS1 wrote:
Hope Shaw and La La, saw Bales goal, will give them the inspiration to leave for a bigger club and play on the world stage, it ain't gonna happen where they are at the moment that's for shaw !
It also ain't going to happen if they move to Manure, a club in decline and desperate to get in a big name manager to try and dredge a few more years out of their ageing squad who are all well past their best. Just shows how astute Fergie was, getting out at the right time and making himself look even better.
[quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: Hope Shaw and La La, saw Bales goal, will give them the inspiration to leave for a bigger club and play on the world stage, it ain't gonna happen where they are at the moment that's for shaw ![/p][/quote]It also ain't going to happen if they move to Manure, a club in decline and desperate to get in a big name manager to try and dredge a few more years out of their ageing squad who are all well past their best. Just shows how astute Fergie was, getting out at the right time and making himself look even better. Clever Dick
  • Score: 7

12:18am Sun 25 May 14

hedge end bob says...

redandy10 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
jls217 wrote:
redandy10 wrote: The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!!
An extremely valid point mate - has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere" Not to my knowledge but then I guess it could be the press just not asking those questions or wanting to print those replies. Doesn't detract from your point though and as captain I would have expected Adam to state quite categorically and many times over if he didn't want to go.Could it be the club has put a gagging order on them though? Guess we all have to wait the summer of misery before we get the answers, pos or neg. I love and hate Saints all at the same time right now. I am a bipolar fan and it's the board causing it. Will noone rid me of this pesky board? Next season is going to tbe the best ever regardless though.
I realise a lot has happened since last November, but many seem to have forgotten what Luke said in this thread: http://www.dailyecho .co.uk/sport/1079869 8.Shaw__I_m_not_leav ing_Saints/
What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014? Why hasn't he come out and stated CATEGORICALLY that he is staying. If it were his intention wouldn't he do it to put a stop to the rumours which are not good for the club? Hey I'm willing to say you know what, maybe I'm being too negative. But at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago! Maybe in November 2013 NC would have said the same, where is he now?
You know this genuinely decent idea you have whereby someone with a point of view on here gets treated with respect? Well, using aggressive language such as, 'What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014?' and 'at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago!' is somewhat in contravention of your 'good idea', isn't it? I repeat - in capitals - I REALISE A LOT HAS HAPPENED SINCE LAST NOVEMBER. However, the points I am making are that: 1a. JLS asked: 'has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere" Not to my knowledge.' Well, actually, yes, Luke has said it - albeit in November. That remains valid because: 1b. if he said it then and has said nothing to the contrary since, then the only evidence we have doesn't suggest he wants to leave. (NB: I said 'wants to' not 'is going to'.) 2. He highlighted the role the media and social networks play in distorting things; a very relevant point right now. Some seem to take what the press say as fact, yet ignore what those in the press actually say, which I find a bit bizarre. The final point is that when there was speculation ahead of the previous transfer window, Luke spoke. Thus, at a time when, with NC still around, there seemed to be little information coming out of SMS, there didn't appear to be a gagging order. JLS suggested that there might be one right now. Given that, unlike November, Luke hasn't spoken this time, it seems highly likely to me that that is the case. Of course, it could also be that Luke (and Adam, Morgan and Dejan for that matter) are all a bit preoccupied right now.
Let's hope myself and a fair few others will be proved WRONG! Time will tell if we were just being negative, or if in fact that we were not letting our love for the club completely cloud our judgement, leading us to post unrealistic nonsense. I have obviously upset some of the day job threaders! Just look at the petty little catty comments I have endured, Not just that Stras, how about the stalking yours truly has suffered at the hands of that Arfer fellow, some Mark David Chapman type perched behind his sticky little keyboard, doing God knows what while he slugs me with his witty barbs. And what have we learned from this Stras? Some people need to GET OUT OF THE HOUSE MORE!!!
Yes RED and is it not true that people judge other people by their own standards???
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!![/p][/quote]An extremely valid point mate - has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere" Not to my knowledge but then I guess it could be the press just not asking those questions or wanting to print those replies. Doesn't detract from your point though and as captain I would have expected Adam to state quite categorically and many times over if he didn't want to go.Could it be the club has put a gagging order on them though? Guess we all have to wait the summer of misery before we get the answers, pos or neg. I love and hate Saints all at the same time right now. I am a bipolar fan and it's the board causing it. Will noone rid me of this pesky board? Next season is going to tbe the best ever regardless though.[/p][/quote]I realise a lot has happened since last November, but many seem to have forgotten what Luke said in this thread: http://www.dailyecho .co.uk/sport/1079869 8.Shaw__I_m_not_leav ing_Saints/[/p][/quote]What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014? Why hasn't he come out and stated CATEGORICALLY that he is staying. If it were his intention wouldn't he do it to put a stop to the rumours which are not good for the club? Hey I'm willing to say you know what, maybe I'm being too negative. But at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago! Maybe in November 2013 NC would have said the same, where is he now?[/p][/quote]You know this genuinely decent idea you have whereby someone with a point of view on here gets treated with respect? Well, using aggressive language such as, 'What's November 2013 got to do with May 2014?' and 'at least come up with something approaching a valid reason and not some article from half a year ago!' is somewhat in contravention of your 'good idea', isn't it? I repeat - in capitals - I REALISE A LOT HAS HAPPENED SINCE LAST NOVEMBER. However, the points I am making are that: 1a. JLS asked: 'has any one of the squad come forward and said "I'm happy and going nowhere" Not to my knowledge.' Well, actually, yes, Luke has said it - albeit in November. That remains valid because: 1b. if he said it then and has said nothing to the contrary since, then the only evidence we have doesn't suggest he wants to leave. (NB: I said 'wants to' not 'is going to'.) 2. He highlighted the role the media and social networks play in distorting things; a very relevant point right now. Some seem to take what the press say as fact, yet ignore what those in the press actually say, which I find a bit bizarre. The final point is that when there was speculation ahead of the previous transfer window, Luke spoke. Thus, at a time when, with NC still around, there seemed to be little information coming out of SMS, there didn't appear to be a gagging order. JLS suggested that there might be one right now. Given that, unlike November, Luke hasn't spoken this time, it seems highly likely to me that that is the case. Of course, it could also be that Luke (and Adam, Morgan and Dejan for that matter) are all a bit preoccupied right now.[/p][/quote]Let's hope myself and a fair few others will be proved WRONG! Time will tell if we were just being negative, or if in fact that we were not letting our love for the club completely cloud our judgement, leading us to post unrealistic nonsense. I have obviously upset some of the day job threaders! Just look at the petty little catty comments I have endured, Not just that Stras, how about the stalking yours truly has suffered at the hands of that Arfer fellow, some Mark David Chapman type perched behind his sticky little keyboard, doing God knows what while he slugs me with his witty barbs. And what have we learned from this Stras? Some people need to GET OUT OF THE HOUSE MORE!!![/p][/quote]Yes RED and is it not true that people judge other people by their own standards??? hedge end bob
  • Score: 3

1:20am Sun 25 May 14

Rising_Son says...

redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
From Andy: "how about the stalking yours truly has suffered at the hands of that Arfer fellow, some Mark David Chapman type perched behind his sticky little keyboard, doing God knows what while he slugs me with his witty barbs."

Now, what exactly was the witty barb from Arfer that slugged him: "Well never mind eh, It could be much worse. You could for instance live in Portsmouth...And support a shiitty club in Manchester ....but you wouldn't want to do that..... would you !"
Again you are lacking in the facts department. He has on previous occasions used very rude terms to describe yours truly, which would have seen him banned from the site if he had been reported. All of which i'm sure the DE could lay its hands on.

Plus the vast majority of his posts have been replies to my posts, and not particularly flattering I'll have you know. And this, Rising, over a span of a year would constitute stalking, in MOST peoples book.

Again you seem to be fixated on trying to prove me wrong.
Give it up, surly you have better things to do!
In another post you said, "Let's hope myself and a fair few others will be proved WRONG!"

So, what are you complaining about? In you interpretation of things, I am surely only cooperating with you.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: From Andy: "how about the stalking yours truly has suffered at the hands of that Arfer fellow, some Mark David Chapman type perched behind his sticky little keyboard, doing God knows what while he slugs me with his witty barbs." Now, what exactly was the witty barb from Arfer that slugged him: "Well never mind eh, It could be much worse. You could for instance live in Portsmouth...And support a shiitty club in Manchester ....but you wouldn't want to do that..... would you !"[/p][/quote]Again you are lacking in the facts department. He has on previous occasions used very rude terms to describe yours truly, which would have seen him banned from the site if he had been reported. All of which i'm sure the DE could lay its hands on. Plus the vast majority of his posts have been replies to my posts, and not particularly flattering I'll have you know. And this, Rising, over a span of a year would constitute stalking, in MOST peoples book. Again you seem to be fixated on trying to prove me wrong. Give it up, surly you have better things to do![/p][/quote]In another post you said, "Let's hope myself and a fair few others will be proved WRONG!" So, what are you complaining about? In you interpretation of things, I am surely only cooperating with you. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

8:17am Sun 25 May 14

Littleton-Saint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation?

They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it.

So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away.

No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving.

It's not exactly rocket science!!!
I think things remain the same. The players and management have all said they'd like to stay provided the club is going to continue to pursue it's declared vision when Cortese was here. Cortese spoke of competing for the title and Ralph spoke of 'awkward' and 'difficult' finances. It changed the media perception of the club, our rivals perception (hence the bids) and many of the fans. It obviously affected the players and management perception and they want it clarified before committing.
We seem to be lacking positive leadership from The Board.
Even if finances were tight at Saints, Krüger shouldn't have been emphasising that publically, if he had any common sense. We need a Mission Statement and Vision from The Board. We need to see what the plan is and how The Board proposes to get us there. Under Cortese we had that leadership, but our new Board seems limp-wristed and I guess that's why MoPo and some of our players are unsettled. Katharina needs to provide better direction for our great club.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!![/p][/quote]I think things remain the same. The players and management have all said they'd like to stay provided the club is going to continue to pursue it's declared vision when Cortese was here. Cortese spoke of competing for the title and Ralph spoke of 'awkward' and 'difficult' finances. It changed the media perception of the club, our rivals perception (hence the bids) and many of the fans. It obviously affected the players and management perception and they want it clarified before committing.[/p][/quote]We seem to be lacking positive leadership from The Board. Even if finances were tight at Saints, Krüger shouldn't have been emphasising that publically, if he had any common sense. We need a Mission Statement and Vision from The Board. We need to see what the plan is and how The Board proposes to get us there. Under Cortese we had that leadership, but our new Board seems limp-wristed and I guess that's why MoPo and some of our players are unsettled. Katharina needs to provide better direction for our great club. Littleton-Saint
  • Score: -1

8:24am Sun 25 May 14

Chipmonk1 says...

Well it is the off season and the lack of news (factual not speculation that is) is creating the usual vacuum that sees us all bickering with each other.
For what it is worth I stand by what I said before and believe that there will be at least one departure that most of us will be upset about. I also believe that there will also be some in-comings that will get us excited.
In the meantime I have decided to completely ignore any headline regarding saints unless it states factually that so and so has signed for us or one of ours has signed for someone else. Look no further than the Daily Mail. For those of us living downunder it has been a connection to sport news in the UK. It seems however that like us the vacuum of news needs to be filled with gossip and speculation. Exhibit A. Kroos last week according to the daily mail was a certainty to sign for MUTD so much so that the deal was done on Moyes' watch. Yesterdays headline. Kroos snubs UTD (or words to that efffect). As for the sportslens piece on MoPo at spurs? Give me a break! If it was genuine then the majors would have picked up on it. Exhibit B. Shaw set for ManU switch (same paper) today Shaw puts transfer talk on hold. The fact is he hasn't put it on hold because it hasn't even happened yet. Like I said I believe one maybe more may go. Maybe they won't. The fact remains that we all wish we were privy to every conversation occurring at Saints HQ but we're not. The silence is deafening but it is just that, silence. It is hard to be patient and I am starting to find the off-season to be more stressful than the season proper. Role on September and cheering on our players and manager whoever they are! Unite.We are one, we are saints and we ain't that dirty fishy lot plying their trade in the lowest of echelons!
Well it is the off season and the lack of news (factual not speculation that is) is creating the usual vacuum that sees us all bickering with each other. For what it is worth I stand by what I said before and believe that there will be at least one departure that most of us will be upset about. I also believe that there will also be some in-comings that will get us excited. In the meantime I have decided to completely ignore any headline regarding saints unless it states factually that so and so has signed for us or one of ours has signed for someone else. Look no further than the Daily Mail. For those of us living downunder it has been a connection to sport news in the UK. It seems however that like us the vacuum of news needs to be filled with gossip and speculation. Exhibit A. Kroos last week according to the daily mail was a certainty to sign for MUTD so much so that the deal was done on Moyes' watch. Yesterdays headline. Kroos snubs UTD (or words to that efffect). As for the sportslens piece on MoPo at spurs? Give me a break! If it was genuine then the majors would have picked up on it. Exhibit B. Shaw set for ManU switch (same paper) today Shaw puts transfer talk on hold. The fact is he hasn't put it on hold because it hasn't even happened yet. Like I said I believe one maybe more may go. Maybe they won't. The fact remains that we all wish we were privy to every conversation occurring at Saints HQ but we're not. The silence is deafening but it is just that, silence. It is hard to be patient and I am starting to find the off-season to be more stressful than the season proper. Role on September and cheering on our players and manager whoever they are! Unite.We are one, we are saints and we ain't that dirty fishy lot plying their trade in the lowest of echelons! Chipmonk1
  • Score: 4

9:10am Sun 25 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Clever Dick wrote:
M.U.CS1 wrote:
Hope Shaw and La La, saw Bales goal, will give them the inspiration to leave for a bigger club and play on the world stage, it ain't gonna happen where they are at the moment that's for shaw !
It also ain't going to happen if they move to Manure, a club in decline and desperate to get in a big name manager to try and dredge a few more years out of their ageing squad who are all well past their best. Just shows how astute Fergie was, getting out at the right time and making himself look even better.
CD, my best guess is that this is no manure fan, just our old friend Kent141 trying to wind us up. Best ignored for the cr4p that it is.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: Hope Shaw and La La, saw Bales goal, will give them the inspiration to leave for a bigger club and play on the world stage, it ain't gonna happen where they are at the moment that's for shaw ![/p][/quote]It also ain't going to happen if they move to Manure, a club in decline and desperate to get in a big name manager to try and dredge a few more years out of their ageing squad who are all well past their best. Just shows how astute Fergie was, getting out at the right time and making himself look even better.[/p][/quote]CD, my best guess is that this is no manure fan, just our old friend Kent141 trying to wind us up. Best ignored for the cr4p that it is. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 1

9:48am Sun 25 May 14

Clever Dick says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
M.U.CS1 wrote:
Hope Shaw and La La, saw Bales goal, will give them the inspiration to leave for a bigger club and play on the world stage, it ain't gonna happen where they are at the moment that's for shaw !
It also ain't going to happen if they move to Manure, a club in decline and desperate to get in a big name manager to try and dredge a few more years out of their ageing squad who are all well past their best. Just shows how astute Fergie was, getting out at the right time and making himself look even better.
CD, my best guess is that this is no manure fan, just our old friend Kent141 trying to wind us up. Best ignored for the cr4p that it is.
Yeah. Probably. Just seems slightly more intelligent with an absence of always having to have the last word even when obviously making a fool of himself. Don't worry though I don't get wound up by fools on this site. I find their jealous delusional rants pretty amusing.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: Hope Shaw and La La, saw Bales goal, will give them the inspiration to leave for a bigger club and play on the world stage, it ain't gonna happen where they are at the moment that's for shaw ![/p][/quote]It also ain't going to happen if they move to Manure, a club in decline and desperate to get in a big name manager to try and dredge a few more years out of their ageing squad who are all well past their best. Just shows how astute Fergie was, getting out at the right time and making himself look even better.[/p][/quote]CD, my best guess is that this is no manure fan, just our old friend Kent141 trying to wind us up. Best ignored for the cr4p that it is.[/p][/quote]Yeah. Probably. Just seems slightly more intelligent with an absence of always having to have the last word even when obviously making a fool of himself. Don't worry though I don't get wound up by fools on this site. I find their jealous delusional rants pretty amusing. Clever Dick
  • Score: -1

10:00am Sun 25 May 14

arm chair fan says...

So ........who is leaving today??????
So ........who is leaving today?????? arm chair fan
  • Score: 1

10:02am Sun 25 May 14

vyper says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Malcombe wrote:
van Gobble I have just had a look on that site and you are correct it's definitely MoPo, lets hope that it's his son and a friend behind him and they are going to the Departure Lounge, it really made my stomach churn after what I've just posted
I've just had a look at the photo, and read the Spuds supporters comments below. They don't believe, either.
I may be missing something but what is it in the picture that makes you think it's the spuds?
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: van Gobble I have just had a look on that site and you are correct it's definitely MoPo, lets hope that it's his son and a friend behind him and they are going to the Departure Lounge, it really made my stomach churn after what I've just posted[/p][/quote]I've just had a look at the photo, and read the Spuds supporters comments below. They don't believe, either.[/p][/quote]I may be missing something but what is it in the picture that makes you think it's the spuds? vyper
  • Score: 2

10:11am Sun 25 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
M.U.CS1 wrote:
Hope Shaw and La La, saw Bales goal, will give them the inspiration to leave for a bigger club and play on the world stage, it ain't gonna happen where they are at the moment that's for shaw !
It also ain't going to happen if they move to Manure, a club in decline and desperate to get in a big name manager to try and dredge a few more years out of their ageing squad who are all well past their best. Just shows how astute Fergie was, getting out at the right time and making himself look even better.
CD, my best guess is that this is no manure fan, just our old friend Kent141 trying to wind us up. Best ignored for the cr4p that it is.
Yeah. Probably. Just seems slightly more intelligent with an absence of always having to have the last word even when obviously making a fool of himself. Don't worry though I don't get wound up by fools on this site. I find their jealous delusional rants pretty amusing.
I think the clue is in his spelling of 'shaw' (as in certain). What an 4rse!
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: Hope Shaw and La La, saw Bales goal, will give them the inspiration to leave for a bigger club and play on the world stage, it ain't gonna happen where they are at the moment that's for shaw ![/p][/quote]It also ain't going to happen if they move to Manure, a club in decline and desperate to get in a big name manager to try and dredge a few more years out of their ageing squad who are all well past their best. Just shows how astute Fergie was, getting out at the right time and making himself look even better.[/p][/quote]CD, my best guess is that this is no manure fan, just our old friend Kent141 trying to wind us up. Best ignored for the cr4p that it is.[/p][/quote]Yeah. Probably. Just seems slightly more intelligent with an absence of always having to have the last word even when obviously making a fool of himself. Don't worry though I don't get wound up by fools on this site. I find their jealous delusional rants pretty amusing.[/p][/quote]I think the clue is in his spelling of 'shaw' (as in certain). What an 4rse! Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 0

10:15am Sun 25 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

arm chair fan wrote:
So ........who is leaving today??????
Me. Flight to Gatwick leaves at 5.40pm. However, it's not inside the back pages of today's Mail on Sunday, so it's probably not true.
[quote][p][bold]arm chair fan[/bold] wrote: So ........who is leaving today??????[/p][/quote]Me. Flight to Gatwick leaves at 5.40pm. However, it's not inside the back pages of today's Mail on Sunday, so it's probably not true. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 2

10:30am Sun 25 May 14

jls217 says...

Good interview with JWP in the Sunday Mail. Nothing that I could decipher as being a hint about anything one way or t'other but it makes a change to read something positive. Going to be a star that lad!
Good interview with JWP in the Sunday Mail. Nothing that I could decipher as being a hint about anything one way or t'other but it makes a change to read something positive. Going to be a star that lad! jls217
  • Score: 2

10:31am Sun 25 May 14

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

Luke and Adam are training for one of the most important periods in their careers to date. I can't see them saying anything about transfers or whether they stay or go. Roy has made it clear he wants everyone focussed on the job in hand and I am sure that is what they are doing. They are professionals and have been brought up the right way with Saints. Neither of them are self-centred prima donnas and they will concentrate on being their best for their Country. I am sure that is what Rickie is doing too. When you want something really bad like we all want Poch and our best players to stay it is hard not to obsess about it. I admit not hearing much except all the speculative rubbish written, nay invented, by 16-20 year old student bloggers and wannabe journalists that the News Now site links to didn't do my nerves any good at first, but be patient guys; it will all become clear soon and Saints will still be here next season playing in the Prem and we'll be watching them.
Luke and Adam are training for one of the most important periods in their careers to date. I can't see them saying anything about transfers or whether they stay or go. Roy has made it clear he wants everyone focussed on the job in hand and I am sure that is what they are doing. They are professionals and have been brought up the right way with Saints. Neither of them are self-centred prima donnas and they will concentrate on being their best for their Country. I am sure that is what Rickie is doing too. When you want something really bad like we all want Poch and our best players to stay it is hard not to obsess about it. I admit not hearing much except all the speculative rubbish written, nay invented, by 16-20 year old student bloggers and wannabe journalists that the News Now site links to didn't do my nerves any good at first, but be patient guys; it will all become clear soon and Saints will still be here next season playing in the Prem and we'll be watching them. Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
  • Score: 3

10:32am Sun 25 May 14

Malcombe says...

vyper
I do not know anymore than you do where that photo was taken, I never said it was at Spurs, that came from the headlines with the photograph.
When my stomach churned which it did I hoped like millions of others that it wasn't at Tottenham, in fact if you read all the comments on here there are at least a three who have made very good suggestions, 1 me I thought going to the Departure Lounge, 2 looked like the large glassed board was a Currency notice on MoPo's right, 3 wouldn't of thought he was going for an Interview in Jeans, T Shirt and 3 young Teenagers. I have now expanded my thoughts that it could be an Airport and they got lost and someone recognised MoPo and got the photo with a Mobile phone then posted it on some site, like my previous comment I do not know the facts perhaps you do.
vyper I do not know anymore than you do where that photo was taken, I never said it was at Spurs, that came from the headlines with the photograph. When my stomach churned which it did I hoped like millions of others that it wasn't at Tottenham, in fact if you read all the comments on here there are at least a three who have made very good suggestions, 1 me I thought going to the Departure Lounge, 2 looked like the large glassed board was a Currency notice on MoPo's right, 3 wouldn't of thought he was going for an Interview in Jeans, T Shirt and 3 young Teenagers. I have now expanded my thoughts that it could be an Airport and they got lost and someone recognised MoPo and got the photo with a Mobile phone then posted it on some site, like my previous comment I do not know the facts perhaps you do. Malcombe
  • Score: 0

10:43am Sun 25 May 14

Rising_Son says...

vyper wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Malcombe wrote:
van Gobble I have just had a look on that site and you are correct it's definitely MoPo, lets hope that it's his son and a friend behind him and they are going to the Departure Lounge, it really made my stomach churn after what I've just posted
I've just had a look at the photo, and read the Spuds supporters comments below. They don't believe, either.
I may be missing something but what is it in the picture that makes you think it's the spuds?
Absolutely nothing. And based on the Spuds supporters' comments under the photo, they don't think it is either.
[quote][p][bold]vyper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: van Gobble I have just had a look on that site and you are correct it's definitely MoPo, lets hope that it's his son and a friend behind him and they are going to the Departure Lounge, it really made my stomach churn after what I've just posted[/p][/quote]I've just had a look at the photo, and read the Spuds supporters comments below. They don't believe, either.[/p][/quote]I may be missing something but what is it in the picture that makes you think it's the spuds?[/p][/quote]Absolutely nothing. And based on the Spuds supporters' comments under the photo, they don't think it is either. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

10:50am Sun 25 May 14

Rising_Son says...

New developments/creativ
e thinking at Liverpool it seems. They now want Clyne instead of Lovren.

http://www.footballf
ancast.com/premiersh
ip/liverpool/liverpo
ol-plot-40m-double-s
outhampton-raid?
New developments/creativ e thinking at Liverpool it seems. They now want Clyne instead of Lovren. http://www.footballf ancast.com/premiersh ip/liverpool/liverpo ol-plot-40m-double-s outhampton-raid? Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

11:31am Sun 25 May 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Rising_Son wrote:
vyper wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Malcombe wrote:
van Gobble I have just had a look on that site and you are correct it's definitely MoPo, lets hope that it's his son and a friend behind him and they are going to the Departure Lounge, it really made my stomach churn after what I've just posted
I've just had a look at the photo, and read the Spuds supporters comments below. They don't believe, either.
I may be missing something but what is it in the picture that makes you think it's the spuds?
Absolutely nothing. And based on the Spuds supporters' comments under the photo, they don't think it is either.
Just the press stiring it again,using a picture which may or may not be Pochettino,somewhere in the world,but certainly not the Spurs training ground,with a speculative question as a caption,purely designed to mislead,and promote division.
Basically just a no news,attention grabbing filler piece, with absolutely no substance whatsoever.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vyper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: van Gobble I have just had a look on that site and you are correct it's definitely MoPo, lets hope that it's his son and a friend behind him and they are going to the Departure Lounge, it really made my stomach churn after what I've just posted[/p][/quote]I've just had a look at the photo, and read the Spuds supporters comments below. They don't believe, either.[/p][/quote]I may be missing something but what is it in the picture that makes you think it's the spuds?[/p][/quote]Absolutely nothing. And based on the Spuds supporters' comments under the photo, they don't think it is either.[/p][/quote]Just the press stiring it again,using a picture which may or may not be Pochettino,somewhere in the world,but certainly not the Spurs training ground,with a speculative question as a caption,purely designed to mislead,and promote division. Basically just a no news,attention grabbing filler piece, with absolutely no substance whatsoever. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

11:38am Sun 25 May 14

hedge end bob says...

redandy10 wrote:
The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!!
RED. both players are on world cup duty and THE ENGLAND MANAGER has banned all talk of transfers, so maybe this is why they have not categorically stated they are not leaving. Like you so rightly stated , it's not rocket science!!!!!!!. Talk about your club and you won't play for your country!!!
Just another nonsense post by me i suppose but , i am afraid your facts obtained from news papers have not convinced me they are going. I will just sit read the tosh keep quite until OUR CLUB TELLS US THE FACTS. I am to old to be a drama queen, not saying you are either.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!![/p][/quote]RED. both players are on world cup duty and THE ENGLAND MANAGER has banned all talk of transfers, so maybe this is why they have not categorically stated they are not leaving. Like you so rightly stated , it's not rocket science!!!!!!!. Talk about your club and you won't play for your country!!! Just another nonsense post by me i suppose but , i am afraid your facts obtained from news papers have not convinced me they are going. I will just sit read the tosh keep quite until OUR CLUB TELLS US THE FACTS. I am to old to be a drama queen, not saying you are either. hedge end bob
  • Score: 2

11:53am Sun 25 May 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

OUR PLAYERS SHOULD NOT BE FOR SALE.

We should add a Cutting edge Striker to get the goals we need to win Matches as the main priority.

We should look to add a credible GK Number 2 and CB.

We should continue the Vision we started in League On and go for Euopean Football as our next aim.
OUR PLAYERS SHOULD NOT BE FOR SALE. We should add a Cutting edge Striker to get the goals we need to win Matches as the main priority. We should look to add a credible GK Number 2 and CB. We should continue the Vision we started in League On and go for Euopean Football as our next aim. The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 1

12:02pm Sun 25 May 14

redandy10 says...

hedge end bob wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!!
RED. both players are on world cup duty and THE ENGLAND MANAGER has banned all talk of transfers, so maybe this is why they have not categorically stated they are not leaving. Like you so rightly stated , it's not rocket science!!!!!!!. Talk about your club and you won't play for your country!!!
Just another nonsense post by me i suppose but , i am afraid your facts obtained from news papers have not convinced me they are going. I will just sit read the tosh keep quite until OUR CLUB TELLS US THE FACTS. I am to old to be a drama queen, not saying you are either.
Hey Bobby, tell us again how Adam & Luke not coming out to categorically say they are staying is probably because of some club rule prohibiting such outlandish displays of loyalty. Pure verbal slapstick that.

What are you going to do for an encore? Rant at the board for not breaking the bank to keep Guly?

Absolute quality! Keep up the good work Bobby!!!
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!![/p][/quote]RED. both players are on world cup duty and THE ENGLAND MANAGER has banned all talk of transfers, so maybe this is why they have not categorically stated they are not leaving. Like you so rightly stated , it's not rocket science!!!!!!!. Talk about your club and you won't play for your country!!! Just another nonsense post by me i suppose but , i am afraid your facts obtained from news papers have not convinced me they are going. I will just sit read the tosh keep quite until OUR CLUB TELLS US THE FACTS. I am to old to be a drama queen, not saying you are either.[/p][/quote]Hey Bobby, tell us again how Adam & Luke not coming out to categorically say they are staying is probably because of some club rule prohibiting such outlandish displays of loyalty. Pure verbal slapstick that. What are you going to do for an encore? Rant at the board for not breaking the bank to keep Guly? Absolute quality! Keep up the good work Bobby!!! redandy10
  • Score: -3

2:27pm Sun 25 May 14

hedge end bob says...

redandy10 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
redandy10 wrote: The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!!
RED. both players are on world cup duty and THE ENGLAND MANAGER has banned all talk of transfers, so maybe this is why they have not categorically stated they are not leaving. Like you so rightly stated , it's not rocket science!!!!!!!. Talk about your club and you won't play for your country!!! Just another nonsense post by me i suppose but , i am afraid your facts obtained from news papers have not convinced me they are going. I will just sit read the tosh keep quite until OUR CLUB TELLS US THE FACTS. I am to old to be a drama queen, not saying you are either.
Hey Bobby, tell us again how Adam & Luke not coming out to categorically say they are staying is probably because of some club rule prohibiting such outlandish displays of loyalty. Pure verbal slapstick that. What are you going to do for an encore? Rant at the board for not breaking the bank to keep Guly? Absolute quality! Keep up the good work Bobby!!!
RED , i have given you a logic reason for the silence. No need for your sacastic witt. Maybe this is why a lot of people ignore you, as i will in future.
RUN ALONG NOW THERE'S A GOOD LITTLE BOY.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!![/p][/quote]RED. both players are on world cup duty and THE ENGLAND MANAGER has banned all talk of transfers, so maybe this is why they have not categorically stated they are not leaving. Like you so rightly stated , it's not rocket science!!!!!!!. Talk about your club and you won't play for your country!!! Just another nonsense post by me i suppose but , i am afraid your facts obtained from news papers have not convinced me they are going. I will just sit read the tosh keep quite until OUR CLUB TELLS US THE FACTS. I am to old to be a drama queen, not saying you are either.[/p][/quote]Hey Bobby, tell us again how Adam & Luke not coming out to categorically say they are staying is probably because of some club rule prohibiting such outlandish displays of loyalty. Pure verbal slapstick that. What are you going to do for an encore? Rant at the board for not breaking the bank to keep Guly? Absolute quality! Keep up the good work Bobby!!![/p][/quote]RED , i have given you a logic reason for the silence. No need for your sacastic witt. Maybe this is why a lot of people ignore you, as i will in future. RUN ALONG NOW THERE'S A GOOD LITTLE BOY. hedge end bob
  • Score: 3

2:52pm Sun 25 May 14

redandy10 says...

hedge end bob wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
redandy10 wrote: The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!!
RED. both players are on world cup duty and THE ENGLAND MANAGER has banned all talk of transfers, so maybe this is why they have not categorically stated they are not leaving. Like you so rightly stated , it's not rocket science!!!!!!!. Talk about your club and you won't play for your country!!! Just another nonsense post by me i suppose but , i am afraid your facts obtained from news papers have not convinced me they are going. I will just sit read the tosh keep quite until OUR CLUB TELLS US THE FACTS. I am to old to be a drama queen, not saying you are either.
Hey Bobby, tell us again how Adam & Luke not coming out to categorically say they are staying is probably because of some club rule prohibiting such outlandish displays of loyalty. Pure verbal slapstick that. What are you going to do for an encore? Rant at the board for not breaking the bank to keep Guly? Absolute quality! Keep up the good work Bobby!!!
RED , i have given you a logic reason for the silence. No need for your sacastic witt. Maybe this is why a lot of people ignore you, as i will in future.
RUN ALONG NOW THERE'S A GOOD LITTLE BOY.
Which is why you keep desperately trying to gain my attention by posting replies to my posts.

Now Bobby, these replies of yours each had a snide tone to them, so don't throw your toys out your pram when I reply in kind.

If a poster shows me respect I reciprocate, as I keep demonstrating. But I won't tolerate nonsense from those who don't like me speaking my mind on the football club I SUPPORT.

Now I suggest you run along, you are starting to look a tad silly!!!
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: The reason people believe that Luke and Adam are PROBABLY leaving is because neither has come out and stated categorically that they are not leaving. If their intentions were to stay you'd expect them to put to bed the non-stop press speculation. The much quoted Les Reed has stated that the club doesn't want to sell its talent. So why haven't Luke and Adam come out and put an end to the VERY UNHELPFUL press speculation? They might be waiting to see what happens with Poch and any summer buys, but i doubt it. So when the club come out and say we want you, but the players, in the face of intense press speculation don't, the next logical step is to think that a huge club offering Champions League football and a fat juicy salary will PROBABLY entice them away. No one wants this scenario to pan out, but there silence does tend to point to them PROBABLY leaving. It's not exactly rocket science!!![/p][/quote]RED. both players are on world cup duty and THE ENGLAND MANAGER has banned all talk of transfers, so maybe this is why they have not categorically stated they are not leaving. Like you so rightly stated , it's not rocket science!!!!!!!. Talk about your club and you won't play for your country!!! Just another nonsense post by me i suppose but , i am afraid your facts obtained from news papers have not convinced me they are going. I will just sit read the tosh keep quite until OUR CLUB TELLS US THE FACTS. I am to old to be a drama queen, not saying you are either.[/p][/quote]Hey Bobby, tell us again how Adam & Luke not coming out to categorically say they are staying is probably because of some club rule prohibiting such outlandish displays of loyalty. Pure verbal slapstick that. What are you going to do for an encore? Rant at the board for not breaking the bank to keep Guly? Absolute quality! Keep up the good work Bobby!!![/p][/quote]RED , i have given you a logic reason for the silence. No need for your sacastic witt. Maybe this is why a lot of people ignore you, as i will in future. RUN ALONG NOW THERE'S A GOOD LITTLE BOY.[/p][/quote]Which is why you keep desperately trying to gain my attention by posting replies to my posts. Now Bobby, these replies of yours each had a snide tone to them, so don't throw your toys out your pram when I reply in kind. If a poster shows me respect I reciprocate, as I keep demonstrating. But I won't tolerate nonsense from those who don't like me speaking my mind on the football club I SUPPORT. Now I suggest you run along, you are starting to look a tad silly!!! redandy10
  • Score: -6

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