United "confident" of signing Shaw

LUKE SHAW

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Manchester United are confident they will sign Luke Shaw, according to The Guardian.

The newspaper has reported that a £30m deal to buy Shaw on a £100,000 a-week salary is virtually complete.

Shaw,18, is reported to have been offered a five-year contract, which dwarfs what Chelsea were willing to pay.

But at the end of last week, Saints manager Mauricio Pochettino responded to rumours of managerless United's interest by saying: "Luke Shaw is a player that belongs to Southampton and it will be the club, Southampton, that makes the decision as to what happens to his future.

“Of course there will be interest in him but right now he is a player at Southampton and it looks like it will be continuing that way.”

 

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3:42pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Stroppy_gramps says...

story based on one comment from an obvious troll on twitter.........
story based on one comment from an obvious troll on twitter......... Stroppy_gramps
  • Score: 6

3:53pm Wed 23 Apr 14

BracknellSaint says...

I am getting sick of this all now.
The club could come out and pour cold water on this, any other players, or indeed MoPo leaving.
That would send a massive message of intent for next year.
Seems the press, as I mentioned in another thread yesterday, are absolutely sure we are going to start flogging our young stars this summer...
They were utterly wrong in the aftermath of Cortese going in terms of MoPo and players leaving immediately...Is this the same situation? (hoping so..)
I am getting sick of this all now. The club could come out and pour cold water on this, any other players, or indeed MoPo leaving. That would send a massive message of intent for next year. Seems the press, as I mentioned in another thread yesterday, are absolutely sure we are going to start flogging our young stars this summer... They were utterly wrong in the aftermath of Cortese going in terms of MoPo and players leaving immediately...Is this the same situation? (hoping so..) BracknellSaint
  • Score: 24

4:14pm Wed 23 Apr 14

montecristosaint says...

BracknellSaint wrote:
I am getting sick of this all now.
The club could come out and pour cold water on this, any other players, or indeed MoPo leaving.
That would send a massive message of intent for next year.
Seems the press, as I mentioned in another thread yesterday, are absolutely sure we are going to start flogging our young stars this summer...
They were utterly wrong in the aftermath of Cortese going in terms of MoPo and players leaving immediately...Is this the same situation? (hoping so..)
I think all Saints fans have had enough. Krueger seems strangely inactive, we are not even being linked to any players, are Saints going to disillusion us all , we will be the laughing stock of the Premier League after continuously claiming that we were not selling our star players because we did not need the money .i wil be gutted if Shaw leaves, because others will also go. I protest!!! If Liebherr did not want to sign up to Cortese s vision why did she not just putt the club up for sale? I for one will not want to hear that we cant force players to stay bla bla, they are under contract and the club has a responsability to the fans.
[quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: I am getting sick of this all now. The club could come out and pour cold water on this, any other players, or indeed MoPo leaving. That would send a massive message of intent for next year. Seems the press, as I mentioned in another thread yesterday, are absolutely sure we are going to start flogging our young stars this summer... They were utterly wrong in the aftermath of Cortese going in terms of MoPo and players leaving immediately...Is this the same situation? (hoping so..)[/p][/quote]I think all Saints fans have had enough. Krueger seems strangely inactive, we are not even being linked to any players, are Saints going to disillusion us all , we will be the laughing stock of the Premier League after continuously claiming that we were not selling our star players because we did not need the money .i wil be gutted if Shaw leaves, because others will also go. I protest!!! If Liebherr did not want to sign up to Cortese s vision why did she not just putt the club up for sale? I for one will not want to hear that we cant force players to stay bla bla, they are under contract and the club has a responsability to the fans. montecristosaint
  • Score: -23

4:15pm Wed 23 Apr 14

keo19391 says...

The Club's silence on all matters is deafening. My cynical fear is that nothing will be forthcoming at least until after the closing date for renewing Season Tickets. Are the proceeds going to be added to the sale of our star players to maximise revenue prior to a sale of the Club. The loyal fans deserve to know exactly what is going to happen sooner rather than later. By the way, I will be renewing my Season Ticket regardless.
The Club's silence on all matters is deafening. My cynical fear is that nothing will be forthcoming at least until after the closing date for renewing Season Tickets. Are the proceeds going to be added to the sale of our star players to maximise revenue prior to a sale of the Club. The loyal fans deserve to know exactly what is going to happen sooner rather than later. By the way, I will be renewing my Season Ticket regardless. keo19391
  • Score: 0

4:18pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Golden_Salamander says...

A few weeks ago they were "confident" that we would sell for £22M.
Then last week they were "confident" that we would accept £27M and he would accept 80k a week.

Now today they are "confident" that £30M and 100k a week will be accepted.

However, the last words from Ralph were that he WOULD NOT be sold,
and Pochettino said "Luke would be at St Marys next season".

This is really a TEST for Ralph and whether the fans can believe him !!!!
A few weeks ago they were "confident" that we would sell for £22M. Then last week they were "confident" that we would accept £27M and he would accept 80k a week. Now today they are "confident" that £30M and 100k a week will be accepted. However, the last words from Ralph were that he WOULD NOT be sold, and Pochettino said "Luke would be at St Marys next season". This is really a TEST for Ralph and whether the fans can believe him !!!! Golden_Salamander
  • Score: 33

4:19pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

Yea let Him go for 40 Mill and Adam at 50 Mill !
Yea let Him go for 40 Mill and Adam at 50 Mill ! Fatty x Ford Worker
  • Score: -22

4:21pm Wed 23 Apr 14

derek james says...

keo19391 wrote:
The Club's silence on all matters is deafening. My cynical fear is that nothing will be forthcoming at least until after the closing date for renewing Season Tickets. Are the proceeds going to be added to the sale of our star players to maximise revenue prior to a sale of the Club. The loyal fans deserve to know exactly what is going to happen sooner rather than later. By the way, I will be renewing my Season Ticket regardless.
everyone and everything has a price including luke shaw, if united have the cash tell them 50 mill, could buy 3 or 4 half decent pl;ayers for that
[quote][p][bold]keo19391[/bold] wrote: The Club's silence on all matters is deafening. My cynical fear is that nothing will be forthcoming at least until after the closing date for renewing Season Tickets. Are the proceeds going to be added to the sale of our star players to maximise revenue prior to a sale of the Club. The loyal fans deserve to know exactly what is going to happen sooner rather than later. By the way, I will be renewing my Season Ticket regardless.[/p][/quote]everyone and everything has a price including luke shaw, if united have the cash tell them 50 mill, could buy 3 or 4 half decent pl;ayers for that derek james
  • Score: 8

4:22pm Wed 23 Apr 14

montecristosaint says...

Golden_Salamander wrote:
A few weeks ago they were "confident" that we would sell for £22M.
Then last week they were "confident" that we would accept £27M and he would accept 80k a week.

Now today they are "confident" that £30M and 100k a week will be accepted.

However, the last words from Ralph were that he WOULD NOT be sold,
and Pochettino said "Luke would be at St Marys next season".

This is really a TEST for Ralph and whether the fans can believe him !!!!
this is without doubt the most important summer in Saints history for obvious reasons , every man and his dog will be looking to sign our players. I wish I could feel more confidence in Krueger he seems a yes man by comparison with Cortese. The club needs to get a grip and make it clear what the club s intentions are. The fans expect much and selling Shaw and starting an avalanche of departures is noway to be doing business in the best interest of Southampton football club. Krueger do not sell the clubs silver!!
[quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: A few weeks ago they were "confident" that we would sell for £22M. Then last week they were "confident" that we would accept £27M and he would accept 80k a week. Now today they are "confident" that £30M and 100k a week will be accepted. However, the last words from Ralph were that he WOULD NOT be sold, and Pochettino said "Luke would be at St Marys next season". This is really a TEST for Ralph and whether the fans can believe him !!!![/p][/quote]this is without doubt the most important summer in Saints history for obvious reasons , every man and his dog will be looking to sign our players. I wish I could feel more confidence in Krueger he seems a yes man by comparison with Cortese. The club needs to get a grip and make it clear what the club s intentions are. The fans expect much and selling Shaw and starting an avalanche of departures is noway to be doing business in the best interest of Southampton football club. Krueger do not sell the clubs silver!! montecristosaint
  • Score: 6

4:24pm Wed 23 Apr 14

montecristosaint says...

Besides if Man U have been in touch with Shaw or his representatives, that is tapping up and should be reported to the Football association.
Besides if Man U have been in touch with Shaw or his representatives, that is tapping up and should be reported to the Football association. montecristosaint
  • Score: 30

4:26pm Wed 23 Apr 14

sarfhamton says...

What does Flash think?
What does Flash think? sarfhamton
  • Score: 2

4:32pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

montecristosaint wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
I am getting sick of this all now.
The club could come out and pour cold water on this, any other players, or indeed MoPo leaving.
That would send a massive message of intent for next year.
Seems the press, as I mentioned in another thread yesterday, are absolutely sure we are going to start flogging our young stars this summer...
They were utterly wrong in the aftermath of Cortese going in terms of MoPo and players leaving immediately...Is this the same situation? (hoping so..)
I think all Saints fans have had enough. Krueger seems strangely inactive, we are not even being linked to any players, are Saints going to disillusion us all , we will be the laughing stock of the Premier League after continuously claiming that we were not selling our star players because we did not need the money .i wil be gutted if Shaw leaves, because others will also go. I protest!!! If Liebherr did not want to sign up to Cortese s vision why did she not just putt the club up for sale? I for one will not want to hear that we cant force players to stay bla bla, they are under contract and the club has a responsability to the fans.
That.

I'd love her to stay and carry on with delivering the vision in the Southampton Way as that brings stability which is a good thing. However if she hasn't the stomach for it then sell to someone who has.

With purchase price and loans converted to equity since she is 'owed' about £50m so can take a profit and still pick the right buyer to move us on.

People say you can't refuse £30m - well I'm interested in the football and would rather have Luke than Gaston and Dani who combined are £30m.
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: I am getting sick of this all now. The club could come out and pour cold water on this, any other players, or indeed MoPo leaving. That would send a massive message of intent for next year. Seems the press, as I mentioned in another thread yesterday, are absolutely sure we are going to start flogging our young stars this summer... They were utterly wrong in the aftermath of Cortese going in terms of MoPo and players leaving immediately...Is this the same situation? (hoping so..)[/p][/quote]I think all Saints fans have had enough. Krueger seems strangely inactive, we are not even being linked to any players, are Saints going to disillusion us all , we will be the laughing stock of the Premier League after continuously claiming that we were not selling our star players because we did not need the money .i wil be gutted if Shaw leaves, because others will also go. I protest!!! If Liebherr did not want to sign up to Cortese s vision why did she not just putt the club up for sale? I for one will not want to hear that we cant force players to stay bla bla, they are under contract and the club has a responsability to the fans.[/p][/quote]That. I'd love her to stay and carry on with delivering the vision in the Southampton Way as that brings stability which is a good thing. However if she hasn't the stomach for it then sell to someone who has. With purchase price and loans converted to equity since she is 'owed' about £50m so can take a profit and still pick the right buyer to move us on. People say you can't refuse £30m - well I'm interested in the football and would rather have Luke than Gaston and Dani who combined are £30m. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 10

4:40pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Tony in Liberia says...

Newspapers have to fill column inches. Because (a) nobody really cares if the gossip they print is accurate or not and (b) there is no comeback on them if their so-called scoops prove to be rubbish, they can and do print any old bull. We will get constant rumours, and constant rehashed rumours. That won't stop, and as long as we have good players we will have to get used to it.

It is ridiculous to expect Saints to comment on every rumour; they can't print a raft of denials to follow every set of papers every Sunday, or every trawl around the web.

They've made a statement; no players are for sale, and none will be sold unless the manager wants to sell them. That hasn't changed, so there's nothing new for them to say.

Constant replying to each rumour just makes the speculation more respectable - the press can print a "Saints deny they are about to sell Shaw" story, and keep the whole thing in the public eye, enabling them to print another "Chelsea favourites to sign Shaw" story the next day.

I don't think Shaw will leave at this stage of the project, although he might well in a year or so, and might find ludicrous money like £100k a week impossible to turn down, especialy when he's seen with JRod how easily your career could be over with one injury. But that will happen when a club submits an official transfer request, and Saints accept it.

Before that, we can influence things by not letting all the speculation affect us. not increasing the pressure by demanding responses to every rumour, and accepting the current status quo that we don't intend to sell anyone, and that we'll know if something has changed in respect to that when and if it changes.

We know that MoPo will sit down and sort out the contract at the end of the season. When that's done, we'll know the results. Until then, let's enjoy ourselves and not make things worse !
Newspapers have to fill column inches. Because (a) nobody really cares if the gossip they print is accurate or not and (b) there is no comeback on them if their so-called scoops prove to be rubbish, they can and do print any old bull. We will get constant rumours, and constant rehashed rumours. That won't stop, and as long as we have good players we will have to get used to it. It is ridiculous to expect Saints to comment on every rumour; they can't print a raft of denials to follow every set of papers every Sunday, or every trawl around the web. They've made a statement; no players are for sale, and none will be sold unless the manager wants to sell them. That hasn't changed, so there's nothing new for them to say. Constant replying to each rumour just makes the speculation more respectable - the press can print a "Saints deny they are about to sell Shaw" story, and keep the whole thing in the public eye, enabling them to print another "Chelsea favourites to sign Shaw" story the next day. I don't think Shaw will leave at this stage of the project, although he might well in a year or so, and might find ludicrous money like £100k a week impossible to turn down, especialy when he's seen with JRod how easily your career could be over with one injury. But that will happen when a club submits an official transfer request, and Saints accept it. Before that, we can influence things by not letting all the speculation affect us. not increasing the pressure by demanding responses to every rumour, and accepting the current status quo that we don't intend to sell anyone, and that we'll know if something has changed in respect to that when and if it changes. We know that MoPo will sit down and sort out the contract at the end of the season. When that's done, we'll know the results. Until then, let's enjoy ourselves and not make things worse ! Tony in Liberia
  • Score: 29

4:45pm Wed 23 Apr 14

BracknellSaint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
I am getting sick of this all now.
The club could come out and pour cold water on this, any other players, or indeed MoPo leaving.
That would send a massive message of intent for next year.
Seems the press, as I mentioned in another thread yesterday, are absolutely sure we are going to start flogging our young stars this summer...
They were utterly wrong in the aftermath of Cortese going in terms of MoPo and players leaving immediately...Is this the same situation? (hoping so..)
I think all Saints fans have had enough. Krueger seems strangely inactive, we are not even being linked to any players, are Saints going to disillusion us all , we will be the laughing stock of the Premier League after continuously claiming that we were not selling our star players because we did not need the money .i wil be gutted if Shaw leaves, because others will also go. I protest!!! If Liebherr did not want to sign up to Cortese s vision why did she not just putt the club up for sale? I for one will not want to hear that we cant force players to stay bla bla, they are under contract and the club has a responsability to the fans.
That.

I'd love her to stay and carry on with delivering the vision in the Southampton Way as that brings stability which is a good thing. However if she hasn't the stomach for it then sell to someone who has.

With purchase price and loans converted to equity since she is 'owed' about £50m so can take a profit and still pick the right buyer to move us on.

People say you can't refuse £30m - well I'm interested in the football and would rather have Luke than Gaston and Dani who combined are £30m.
Absolutely. Despite what the press seem to be peddling,we don't HAVE to sell if we don't want to.
All the noises have been that Luke is a sensible lad, and happy to stay for a while even, as he's playing every week,learning and improving,and also surrounded by mates he has played in the same side as since he was 8.
One day the lure of CL footy , and huge wages might tempt him and others...But if we go for it, why can't we get European footy ? And offer bigger wages from those revenues?
Perhaps I'm a dreamer, but would love to see a few more Le Tissier style lifetime Saints... Adam is the most likely to be fair, but why not?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: I am getting sick of this all now. The club could come out and pour cold water on this, any other players, or indeed MoPo leaving. That would send a massive message of intent for next year. Seems the press, as I mentioned in another thread yesterday, are absolutely sure we are going to start flogging our young stars this summer... They were utterly wrong in the aftermath of Cortese going in terms of MoPo and players leaving immediately...Is this the same situation? (hoping so..)[/p][/quote]I think all Saints fans have had enough. Krueger seems strangely inactive, we are not even being linked to any players, are Saints going to disillusion us all , we will be the laughing stock of the Premier League after continuously claiming that we were not selling our star players because we did not need the money .i wil be gutted if Shaw leaves, because others will also go. I protest!!! If Liebherr did not want to sign up to Cortese s vision why did she not just putt the club up for sale? I for one will not want to hear that we cant force players to stay bla bla, they are under contract and the club has a responsability to the fans.[/p][/quote]That. I'd love her to stay and carry on with delivering the vision in the Southampton Way as that brings stability which is a good thing. However if she hasn't the stomach for it then sell to someone who has. With purchase price and loans converted to equity since she is 'owed' about £50m so can take a profit and still pick the right buyer to move us on. People say you can't refuse £30m - well I'm interested in the football and would rather have Luke than Gaston and Dani who combined are £30m.[/p][/quote]Absolutely. Despite what the press seem to be peddling,we don't HAVE to sell if we don't want to. All the noises have been that Luke is a sensible lad, and happy to stay for a while even, as he's playing every week,learning and improving,and also surrounded by mates he has played in the same side as since he was 8. One day the lure of CL footy , and huge wages might tempt him and others...But if we go for it, why can't we get European footy ? And offer bigger wages from those revenues? Perhaps I'm a dreamer, but would love to see a few more Le Tissier style lifetime Saints... Adam is the most likely to be fair, but why not? BracknellSaint
  • Score: 18

5:03pm Wed 23 Apr 14

BracknellSaint says...

Tony in Liberia wrote:
Newspapers have to fill column inches. Because (a) nobody really cares if the gossip they print is accurate or not and (b) there is no comeback on them if their so-called scoops prove to be rubbish, they can and do print any old bull. We will get constant rumours, and constant rehashed rumours. That won't stop, and as long as we have good players we will have to get used to it.

It is ridiculous to expect Saints to comment on every rumour; they can't print a raft of denials to follow every set of papers every Sunday, or every trawl around the web.

They've made a statement; no players are for sale, and none will be sold unless the manager wants to sell them. That hasn't changed, so there's nothing new for them to say.

Constant replying to each rumour just makes the speculation more respectable - the press can print a "Saints deny they are about to sell Shaw" story, and keep the whole thing in the public eye, enabling them to print another "Chelsea favourites to sign Shaw" story the next day.

I don't think Shaw will leave at this stage of the project, although he might well in a year or so, and might find ludicrous money like £100k a week impossible to turn down, especialy when he's seen with JRod how easily your career could be over with one injury. But that will happen when a club submits an official transfer request, and Saints accept it.

Before that, we can influence things by not letting all the speculation affect us. not increasing the pressure by demanding responses to every rumour, and accepting the current status quo that we don't intend to sell anyone, and that we'll know if something has changed in respect to that when and if it changes.

We know that MoPo will sit down and sort out the contract at the end of the season. When that's done, we'll know the results. Until then, let's enjoy ourselves and not make things worse !
Well said.
I guess you're correct about not being able to comment on every rumour.
Announcement of new deal for Poch would be welcome though..
Suppose that transfer targets/budget news will have to wait until the summer..
[quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: Newspapers have to fill column inches. Because (a) nobody really cares if the gossip they print is accurate or not and (b) there is no comeback on them if their so-called scoops prove to be rubbish, they can and do print any old bull. We will get constant rumours, and constant rehashed rumours. That won't stop, and as long as we have good players we will have to get used to it. It is ridiculous to expect Saints to comment on every rumour; they can't print a raft of denials to follow every set of papers every Sunday, or every trawl around the web. They've made a statement; no players are for sale, and none will be sold unless the manager wants to sell them. That hasn't changed, so there's nothing new for them to say. Constant replying to each rumour just makes the speculation more respectable - the press can print a "Saints deny they are about to sell Shaw" story, and keep the whole thing in the public eye, enabling them to print another "Chelsea favourites to sign Shaw" story the next day. I don't think Shaw will leave at this stage of the project, although he might well in a year or so, and might find ludicrous money like £100k a week impossible to turn down, especialy when he's seen with JRod how easily your career could be over with one injury. But that will happen when a club submits an official transfer request, and Saints accept it. Before that, we can influence things by not letting all the speculation affect us. not increasing the pressure by demanding responses to every rumour, and accepting the current status quo that we don't intend to sell anyone, and that we'll know if something has changed in respect to that when and if it changes. We know that MoPo will sit down and sort out the contract at the end of the season. When that's done, we'll know the results. Until then, let's enjoy ourselves and not make things worse ![/p][/quote]Well said. I guess you're correct about not being able to comment on every rumour. Announcement of new deal for Poch would be welcome though.. Suppose that transfer targets/budget news will have to wait until the summer.. BracknellSaint
  • Score: 7

5:09pm Wed 23 Apr 14

THE12THMAN says...

I thiink Man Utd are trying to unsettle the player through the media, papers should only be aloud to make such comments during the transfer window and not before.
I thiink Man Utd are trying to unsettle the player through the media, papers should only be aloud to make such comments during the transfer window and not before. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 10

5:11pm Wed 23 Apr 14

StElsass says...

BracknellSaint wrote:
I am getting sick of this all now.
The club could come out and pour cold water on this, any other players, or indeed MoPo leaving.
That would send a massive message of intent for next year.
Seems the press, as I mentioned in another thread yesterday, are absolutely sure we are going to start flogging our young stars this summer...
They were utterly wrong in the aftermath of Cortese going in terms of MoPo and players leaving immediately...Is this the same situation? (hoping so..)
Was it not last week that Krueger came out to say they had no intention to sell and that they will try and keep the squad together? He can't keep denying the same story every time it is being re hashed by another journo,

On another hand, we all know that the club will have very little choice if the player decides he wants to leave. Luke Shaw is probably a sensible lad, like AOC, Theo Walcott or Gareth Bale were sensible lads. The problem is that they all have agents....
[quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: I am getting sick of this all now. The club could come out and pour cold water on this, any other players, or indeed MoPo leaving. That would send a massive message of intent for next year. Seems the press, as I mentioned in another thread yesterday, are absolutely sure we are going to start flogging our young stars this summer... They were utterly wrong in the aftermath of Cortese going in terms of MoPo and players leaving immediately...Is this the same situation? (hoping so..)[/p][/quote]Was it not last week that Krueger came out to say they had no intention to sell and that they will try and keep the squad together? He can't keep denying the same story every time it is being re hashed by another journo, On another hand, we all know that the club will have very little choice if the player decides he wants to leave. Luke Shaw is probably a sensible lad, like AOC, Theo Walcott or Gareth Bale were sensible lads. The problem is that they all have agents.... StElsass
  • Score: 9

5:17pm Wed 23 Apr 14

saintbobby says...

derek james wrote:
keo19391 wrote:
The Club's silence on all matters is deafening. My cynical fear is that nothing will be forthcoming at least until after the closing date for renewing Season Tickets. Are the proceeds going to be added to the sale of our star players to maximise revenue prior to a sale of the Club. The loyal fans deserve to know exactly what is going to happen sooner rather than later. By the way, I will be renewing my Season Ticket regardless.
everyone and everything has a price including luke shaw, if united have the cash tell them 50 mill, could buy 3 or 4 half decent pl;ayers for that
Derek, you are right. I hate myself for it, but I will believe in fairies if Saints do not let Luke Shaw go.

But since he is wanted, probably more than any other young Saint, then the club must get an eye-watering deal. You suggest £50 million and the club could not refuse that, I am sure.

But for something different and also if we lost any other stars, they should also secure, say, a 50% share of any selling on transfer. If we had negotiated that with Gareth Bale, just think we would have landed £43.5 million!

For me, I am more concerned that MP stays with the club.
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keo19391[/bold] wrote: The Club's silence on all matters is deafening. My cynical fear is that nothing will be forthcoming at least until after the closing date for renewing Season Tickets. Are the proceeds going to be added to the sale of our star players to maximise revenue prior to a sale of the Club. The loyal fans deserve to know exactly what is going to happen sooner rather than later. By the way, I will be renewing my Season Ticket regardless.[/p][/quote]everyone and everything has a price including luke shaw, if united have the cash tell them 50 mill, could buy 3 or 4 half decent pl;ayers for that[/p][/quote]Derek, you are right. I hate myself for it, but I will believe in fairies if Saints do not let Luke Shaw go. But since he is wanted, probably more than any other young Saint, then the club must get an eye-watering deal. You suggest £50 million and the club could not refuse that, I am sure. But for something different and also if we lost any other stars, they should also secure, say, a 50% share of any selling on transfer. If we had negotiated that with Gareth Bale, just think we would have landed £43.5 million! For me, I am more concerned that MP stays with the club. saintbobby
  • Score: 6

5:29pm Wed 23 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Tony in Liberia wrote:
Newspapers have to fill column inches. Because (a) nobody really cares if the gossip they print is accurate or not and (b) there is no comeback on them if their so-called scoops prove to be rubbish, they can and do print any old bull. We will get constant rumours, and constant rehashed rumours. That won't stop, and as long as we have good players we will have to get used to it.

It is ridiculous to expect Saints to comment on every rumour; they can't print a raft of denials to follow every set of papers every Sunday, or every trawl around the web.

They've made a statement; no players are for sale, and none will be sold unless the manager wants to sell them. That hasn't changed, so there's nothing new for them to say.

Constant replying to each rumour just makes the speculation more respectable - the press can print a "Saints deny they are about to sell Shaw" story, and keep the whole thing in the public eye, enabling them to print another "Chelsea favourites to sign Shaw" story the next day.

I don't think Shaw will leave at this stage of the project, although he might well in a year or so, and might find ludicrous money like £100k a week impossible to turn down, especialy when he's seen with JRod how easily your career could be over with one injury. But that will happen when a club submits an official transfer request, and Saints accept it.

Before that, we can influence things by not letting all the speculation affect us. not increasing the pressure by demanding responses to every rumour, and accepting the current status quo that we don't intend to sell anyone, and that we'll know if something has changed in respect to that when and if it changes.

We know that MoPo will sit down and sort out the contract at the end of the season. When that's done, we'll know the results. Until then, let's enjoy ourselves and not make things worse !
THAT!!!

why should RK keep on giving an answer to all these rumours? he has said we are not selling a player that MP wants to keep and MP like and wants to keep luke. if RK had to respond to every rumour about our players he would never get anything else done!
it would be strange for manure to spend so much money on a player when they haven't got a manager, and any new manager they get might not want his budget spent on luke.
this is all just pressure from manure to try to get luke to put in a transfer request, that's why they are mentioning the length of contract and wages, tapping up via the media.
twitch is a master at doing that, he even got a west brom player to drive down to qpr with comments about the deal almost complete.
the FA need to clamp down on this type of tapping up,
[quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: Newspapers have to fill column inches. Because (a) nobody really cares if the gossip they print is accurate or not and (b) there is no comeback on them if their so-called scoops prove to be rubbish, they can and do print any old bull. We will get constant rumours, and constant rehashed rumours. That won't stop, and as long as we have good players we will have to get used to it. It is ridiculous to expect Saints to comment on every rumour; they can't print a raft of denials to follow every set of papers every Sunday, or every trawl around the web. They've made a statement; no players are for sale, and none will be sold unless the manager wants to sell them. That hasn't changed, so there's nothing new for them to say. Constant replying to each rumour just makes the speculation more respectable - the press can print a "Saints deny they are about to sell Shaw" story, and keep the whole thing in the public eye, enabling them to print another "Chelsea favourites to sign Shaw" story the next day. I don't think Shaw will leave at this stage of the project, although he might well in a year or so, and might find ludicrous money like £100k a week impossible to turn down, especialy when he's seen with JRod how easily your career could be over with one injury. But that will happen when a club submits an official transfer request, and Saints accept it. Before that, we can influence things by not letting all the speculation affect us. not increasing the pressure by demanding responses to every rumour, and accepting the current status quo that we don't intend to sell anyone, and that we'll know if something has changed in respect to that when and if it changes. We know that MoPo will sit down and sort out the contract at the end of the season. When that's done, we'll know the results. Until then, let's enjoy ourselves and not make things worse ![/p][/quote]THAT!!! why should RK keep on giving an answer to all these rumours? he has said we are not selling a player that MP wants to keep and MP like and wants to keep luke. if RK had to respond to every rumour about our players he would never get anything else done! it would be strange for manure to spend so much money on a player when they haven't got a manager, and any new manager they get might not want his budget spent on luke. this is all just pressure from manure to try to get luke to put in a transfer request, that's why they are mentioning the length of contract and wages, tapping up via the media. twitch is a master at doing that, he even got a west brom player to drive down to qpr with comments about the deal almost complete. the FA need to clamp down on this type of tapping up, el caballo santos101
  • Score: 12

6:01pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Jesus_02 says...

keo19391 wrote:
The Club's silence on all matters is deafening. My cynical fear is that nothing will be forthcoming at least until after the closing date for renewing Season Tickets. Are the proceeds going to be added to the sale of our star players to maximise revenue prior to a sale of the Club. The loyal fans deserve to know exactly what is going to happen sooner rather than later. By the way, I will be renewing my Season Ticket regardless.
Nonsence... you are entitled to a refund right up to before the first ball is kicked.

They have already been prompted to make a statement about the sale of players. They cant respond to every rumour.
[quote][p][bold]keo19391[/bold] wrote: The Club's silence on all matters is deafening. My cynical fear is that nothing will be forthcoming at least until after the closing date for renewing Season Tickets. Are the proceeds going to be added to the sale of our star players to maximise revenue prior to a sale of the Club. The loyal fans deserve to know exactly what is going to happen sooner rather than later. By the way, I will be renewing my Season Ticket regardless.[/p][/quote]Nonsence... you are entitled to a refund right up to before the first ball is kicked. They have already been prompted to make a statement about the sale of players. They cant respond to every rumour. Jesus_02
  • Score: 10

6:16pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Baddesley Bill says...

£30 mill is a lot of money for a left back, but then again, Bale was a left back.

The media are bringing this rumour to a fever pitch. It needs to be nipped in the bud.....and soon!
£30 mill is a lot of money for a left back, but then again, Bale was a left back. The media are bringing this rumour to a fever pitch. It needs to be nipped in the bud.....and soon! Baddesley Bill
  • Score: 7

6:49pm Wed 23 Apr 14

lowe esteem says...

derek james wrote:
keo19391 wrote:
The Club's silence on all matters is deafening. My cynical fear is that nothing will be forthcoming at least until after the closing date for renewing Season Tickets. Are the proceeds going to be added to the sale of our star players to maximise revenue prior to a sale of the Club. The loyal fans deserve to know exactly what is going to happen sooner rather than later. By the way, I will be renewing my Season Ticket regardless.
everyone and everything has a price including luke shaw, if united have the cash tell them 50 mill, could buy 3 or 4 half decent pl;ayers for that
Don't want half decent -we are Saints.
Keep up the silence Ralph, the sycophants (ie trust the bloke that walked)thought it was OK from your predecessor, and it also means you can't negotiate with anyone too.
Cry Rickie, Adam and Saint Luke.
Three Lions on the plane, Happy St Georges Day to Saints everywhere.
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keo19391[/bold] wrote: The Club's silence on all matters is deafening. My cynical fear is that nothing will be forthcoming at least until after the closing date for renewing Season Tickets. Are the proceeds going to be added to the sale of our star players to maximise revenue prior to a sale of the Club. The loyal fans deserve to know exactly what is going to happen sooner rather than later. By the way, I will be renewing my Season Ticket regardless.[/p][/quote]everyone and everything has a price including luke shaw, if united have the cash tell them 50 mill, could buy 3 or 4 half decent pl;ayers for that[/p][/quote]Don't want half decent -we are Saints. Keep up the silence Ralph, the sycophants (ie trust the bloke that walked)thought it was OK from your predecessor, and it also means you can't negotiate with anyone too. Cry Rickie, Adam and Saint Luke. Three Lions on the plane, Happy St Georges Day to Saints everywhere. lowe esteem
  • Score: 4

7:55pm Wed 23 Apr 14

03alpe01 says...

This will happen :(
This will happen :( 03alpe01
  • Score: -8

8:53pm Wed 23 Apr 14

redsnapper says...

The arrogance of MUFC is astounding!! They are a broken setup who have enjoyed a magnificent run but at least half of the squad are guilty of a very unprofessional attitude this season. Rooney and his agents greed is just one example of the rot setting in. Pards amongst others have admired how easily our players deal with media. The Guardian story is speculation as many others will be in weeks to come.
The arrogance of MUFC is astounding!! They are a broken setup who have enjoyed a magnificent run but at least half of the squad are guilty of a very unprofessional attitude this season. Rooney and his agents greed is just one example of the rot setting in. Pards amongst others have admired how easily our players deal with media. The Guardian story is speculation as many others will be in weeks to come. redsnapper
  • Score: 7

8:53pm Wed 23 Apr 14

dadofmy3sons says...

Question.
Why does The Echo reprint these stories if they have been told in no uncertain terms we have no intention of selling any players that we want to keep?
Or the manager for that matter?
Question. Why does The Echo reprint these stories if they have been told in no uncertain terms we have no intention of selling any players that we want to keep? Or the manager for that matter? dadofmy3sons
  • Score: 4

9:13pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Freddie Flowerpot says...

Surprised to see so many naive people on here, Man U aren't 'tapping' the player up, they are obviously in negotiations with officials at Saints to get this deal done quickly at the end of the season before Luke goes to the World Cup

We have always been a selling club, and the Academy generates huge profits when we sell our youngsters, it's business pure and simple, you can't deny the lad the opportunity of joining Man Utd, Players have relatively short careers so when the big clubs come knocking the player will leave,.its always been the way..
Surprised to see so many naive people on here, Man U aren't 'tapping' the player up, they are obviously in negotiations with officials at Saints to get this deal done quickly at the end of the season before Luke goes to the World Cup We have always been a selling club, and the Academy generates huge profits when we sell our youngsters, it's business pure and simple, you can't deny the lad the opportunity of joining Man Utd, Players have relatively short careers so when the big clubs come knocking the player will leave,.its always been the way.. Freddie Flowerpot
  • Score: -2

9:32pm Wed 23 Apr 14

apm1954 says...

yawn time for bed.
yawn time for bed. apm1954
  • Score: 0

9:48pm Wed 23 Apr 14

ian redhill says...

A friend told me vin Persie coming to Saints along with Arjen Robben and some bloke called Gareth Bale. Or was that some old bullshite in the Grauniad or martin I am a saints hater Samuel in the daily fail. Its all **** wait til the summer and Karina pens the cheque book
A friend told me vin Persie coming to Saints along with Arjen Robben and some bloke called Gareth Bale. Or was that some old bullshite in the Grauniad or martin I am a saints hater Samuel in the daily fail. Its all **** wait til the summer and Karina pens the cheque book ian redhill
  • Score: -2

9:52pm Wed 23 Apr 14

ian redhill says...

ian redhill wrote:
A friend told me vin Persie coming to Saints along with Arjen Robben and some bloke called Gareth Bale. Or was that some old bullshite in the Grauniad or martin I am a saints hater Samuel in the daily fail. Its all **** wait til the summer and Karina pens the cheque book
Katerina opens the cheque book
[quote][p][bold]ian redhill[/bold] wrote: A friend told me vin Persie coming to Saints along with Arjen Robben and some bloke called Gareth Bale. Or was that some old bullshite in the Grauniad or martin I am a saints hater Samuel in the daily fail. Its all **** wait til the summer and Karina pens the cheque book[/p][/quote]Katerina opens the cheque book ian redhill
  • Score: -2

10:02pm Wed 23 Apr 14

St.Yorkie says...

Van Persie is too injury prone. Robben has no hair. Now Lakaku is a beast! Bale wants out at Madrid! Suarez is unsettled at Liverpool!
The world is our oyster after Brazil - let's just wait and see!
Van Persie is too injury prone. Robben has no hair. Now Lakaku is a beast! Bale wants out at Madrid! Suarez is unsettled at Liverpool! The world is our oyster after Brazil - let's just wait and see! St.Yorkie
  • Score: 3

10:46pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Clever Dick says...

If he's going anywhere Chelsea would be the best bet. Then we could do a deal involving Lukaku who would be a great fit for us up front. Maybe we need to stuff Everton Saturday so that he can see that we are the better side.
If he's going anywhere Chelsea would be the best bet. Then we could do a deal involving Lukaku who would be a great fit for us up front. Maybe we need to stuff Everton Saturday so that he can see that we are the better side. Clever Dick
  • Score: 1

11:39pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Rooflas says...

How the f11ck can man utd sign any 1 without a manager?
How the f11ck can man utd sign any 1 without a manager? Rooflas
  • Score: 4

12:56am Thu 24 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

dadofmy3sons wrote:
Question.
Why does The Echo reprint these stories if they have been told in no uncertain terms we have no intention of selling any players that we want to keep?
Or the manager for that matter?
because its a newspaper that has a duty to report stories like this, whether they are factual or not. it also makes money from people visiting the site and stories like this get people visiting.
[quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: Question. Why does The Echo reprint these stories if they have been told in no uncertain terms we have no intention of selling any players that we want to keep? Or the manager for that matter?[/p][/quote]because its a newspaper that has a duty to report stories like this, whether they are factual or not. it also makes money from people visiting the site and stories like this get people visiting. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 3

8:35am Thu 24 Apr 14

meechy says...

I have just the one question for all my fellow supporters ... if you were 18 with a career that probably has 15 years at the most to come, and you earned £20000 per week, would you change to doing the same job with a different company for £100000 per week?
I have just the one question for all my fellow supporters ... if you were 18 with a career that probably has 15 years at the most to come, and you earned £20000 per week, would you change to doing the same job with a different company for £100000 per week? meechy
  • Score: -1

8:39am Thu 24 Apr 14

andoru says...

Freddie Flowerpot wrote:
Surprised to see so many naive people on here, Man U aren't 'tapping' the player up, they are obviously in negotiations with officials at Saints to get this deal done quickly at the end of the season before Luke goes to the World Cup

We have always been a selling club, and the Academy generates huge profits when we sell our youngsters, it's business pure and simple, you can't deny the lad the opportunity of joining Man Utd, Players have relatively short careers so when the big clubs come knocking the player will leave,.its always been the way..
So you accept this idea that there are big clubs and small clubs? That's the problem with football right there. It shouldn't be that some teams exist to supply other teams. That's what keeps the big clubs big and the small clubs small.

I personally am in favour of no transfers of players under the age of 21, other than to another academy. In other words, Shaw can go, but he has to spend a season in the Utd youth team. That wouldn't be so tempting.
[quote][p][bold]Freddie Flowerpot[/bold] wrote: Surprised to see so many naive people on here, Man U aren't 'tapping' the player up, they are obviously in negotiations with officials at Saints to get this deal done quickly at the end of the season before Luke goes to the World Cup We have always been a selling club, and the Academy generates huge profits when we sell our youngsters, it's business pure and simple, you can't deny the lad the opportunity of joining Man Utd, Players have relatively short careers so when the big clubs come knocking the player will leave,.its always been the way..[/p][/quote]So you accept this idea that there are big clubs and small clubs? That's the problem with football right there. It shouldn't be that some teams exist to supply other teams. That's what keeps the big clubs big and the small clubs small. I personally am in favour of no transfers of players under the age of 21, other than to another academy. In other words, Shaw can go, but he has to spend a season in the Utd youth team. That wouldn't be so tempting. andoru
  • Score: 3

8:40am Thu 24 Apr 14

Stroppy_gramps says...

Freddie Flowerpot wrote:
Surprised to see so many naive people on here, Man U aren't 'tapping' the player up, they are obviously in negotiations with officials at Saints to get this deal done quickly at the end of the season before Luke goes to the World Cup

We have always been a selling club, and the Academy generates huge profits when we sell our youngsters, it's business pure and simple, you can't deny the lad the opportunity of joining Man Utd, Players have relatively short careers so when the big clubs come knocking the player will leave,.its always been the way..
I bet if you were a caveman you would have spent your time telling everyone 'This new fangled fire stuff will never catch on'

when are you, and fans like you going to realise? Saints are no longer a selling club.
Krueger has said it, Hans has said it, Poch has said it - No player will go in the summer if the club don't want to sell them.

Is that not a clear enough statement of intent for you?
Now don't get me wrong - I will count the club incredibly lucky if they get through the summer without losing Shaw or any of our other top players. This is the nature of football - players do move on. But the club are very clearly not going to just roll over and allow other teams to raid our talent.
If ANY of our players go it won't be without a fight.
You may think you are just being a realist, but to me (and quite a few other fans) you are just negative. Do you not understand that Saints stopped being a selling club a couple of years ago?
Granted - there was never any way we would keep Bale given our league position at the time. But now? HELLO! ONE SPOT BEHIND MAN U IN THE LEAGUE! ARE YOU SEEING THIS?

In fact - what's the difference between us and Man U right now? nothing. They aren't playing in Europe next season, same as us. They haven't won any silverware this season, same as us. Want to point to the history? cup wins? league wins? ok you can do that.... but Shaw can't help win any of those. Besides if you want to use history as an argument shall we talk about Leeds? Notts Forest? even.... (hack, spit) the Skates? What has gone before is irrelevant to a young man playing the game right now. Trying to use the history of a club as an argument to join is pointless.
Ok so Man U can flash the cash and Luke may have his head turned by that. but anything else? he's part of a fantastic squad and he is on record stating that he loves being part of the squad at Southampton. This may surprise you, but not everyone is driven by money.
if you believe everything the media says, Man U are going to have a completely different squad next season - so that gives them the summer to sign all the new players and get them playing together as a team.
What happens if they sign a manager who doesn't rate Shaw and leaves him on the bench?

right now he is part of a squad that has been on an amazing journey up through the leagues - and he was part of that albeit in the junior squads for most of it. I think Luke Shaw is going to surprise quite a few people.

try being positive about it all.
[quote][p][bold]Freddie Flowerpot[/bold] wrote: Surprised to see so many naive people on here, Man U aren't 'tapping' the player up, they are obviously in negotiations with officials at Saints to get this deal done quickly at the end of the season before Luke goes to the World Cup We have always been a selling club, and the Academy generates huge profits when we sell our youngsters, it's business pure and simple, you can't deny the lad the opportunity of joining Man Utd, Players have relatively short careers so when the big clubs come knocking the player will leave,.its always been the way..[/p][/quote]I bet if you were a caveman you would have spent your time telling everyone 'This new fangled fire stuff will never catch on' when are you, and fans like you going to realise? Saints are no longer a selling club. Krueger has said it, Hans has said it, Poch has said it - No player will go in the summer if the club don't want to sell them. Is that not a clear enough statement of intent for you? Now don't get me wrong - I will count the club incredibly lucky if they get through the summer without losing Shaw or any of our other top players. This is the nature of football - players do move on. But the club are very clearly not going to just roll over and allow other teams to raid our talent. If ANY of our players go it won't be without a fight. You may think you are just being a realist, but to me (and quite a few other fans) you are just negative. Do you not understand that Saints stopped being a selling club a couple of years ago? Granted - there was never any way we would keep Bale given our league position at the time. But now? HELLO! ONE SPOT BEHIND MAN U IN THE LEAGUE! ARE YOU SEEING THIS? In fact - what's the difference between us and Man U right now? nothing. They aren't playing in Europe next season, same as us. They haven't won any silverware this season, same as us. Want to point to the history? cup wins? league wins? ok you can do that.... but Shaw can't help win any of those. Besides if you want to use history as an argument shall we talk about Leeds? Notts Forest? even.... (hack, spit) the Skates? What has gone before is irrelevant to a young man playing the game right now. Trying to use the history of a club as an argument to join is pointless. Ok so Man U can flash the cash and Luke may have his head turned by that. but anything else? he's part of a fantastic squad and he is on record stating that he loves being part of the squad at Southampton. This may surprise you, but not everyone is driven by money. if you believe everything the media says, Man U are going to have a completely different squad next season - so that gives them the summer to sign all the new players and get them playing together as a team. What happens if they sign a manager who doesn't rate Shaw and leaves him on the bench? right now he is part of a squad that has been on an amazing journey up through the leagues - and he was part of that albeit in the junior squads for most of it. I think Luke Shaw is going to surprise quite a few people. try being positive about it all. Stroppy_gramps
  • Score: 9

8:45am Thu 24 Apr 14

andoru says...

meechy wrote:
I have just the one question for all my fellow supporters ... if you were 18 with a career that probably has 15 years at the most to come, and you earned £20000 per week, would you change to doing the same job with a different company for £100000 per week?
It would depend on the company in question.
[quote][p][bold]meechy[/bold] wrote: I have just the one question for all my fellow supporters ... if you were 18 with a career that probably has 15 years at the most to come, and you earned £20000 per week, would you change to doing the same job with a different company for £100000 per week?[/p][/quote]It would depend on the company in question. andoru
  • Score: 1

8:52am Thu 24 Apr 14

Costa Baz says...

Clever Dick wrote:
If he's going anywhere Chelsea would be the best bet. Then we could do a deal involving Lukaku who would be a great fit for us up front. Maybe we need to stuff Everton Saturday so that he can see that we are the better side.
Lukaku will only go to a team in the Champion's League, as stated by his agent, so no deal there.

Playing Devil's Advocate, can anyone name a team, having won the Premiership, or any other title, that said "we wouldn't have done that if we hadn't had such a good left back".

As others say, £30m for a player that isn't yet the finished article, would be astonishing, especially as he plays in a position that generally doesn't win games.
On the other hand, if he is capable of becoming another Bale, why hasn't MP experimented?
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: If he's going anywhere Chelsea would be the best bet. Then we could do a deal involving Lukaku who would be a great fit for us up front. Maybe we need to stuff Everton Saturday so that he can see that we are the better side.[/p][/quote]Lukaku will only go to a team in the Champion's League, as stated by his agent, so no deal there. Playing Devil's Advocate, can anyone name a team, having won the Premiership, or any other title, that said "we wouldn't have done that if we hadn't had such a good left back". As others say, £30m for a player that isn't yet the finished article, would be astonishing, especially as he plays in a position that generally doesn't win games. On the other hand, if he is capable of becoming another Bale, why hasn't MP experimented? Costa Baz
  • Score: 2

9:25am Thu 24 Apr 14

Blackknight says...

If Saints can get £30 million for Shaw plus Alexander Büttner from Manure, then provided there's add-ons for England appearance's and a decent sell on percentage they should take it.

Maybe contentious I know, and on the assumption that the proceeds would be available to MoPo. But in my view there are more important areas of the squad that need strengthening and it may be necessary to make some sacrifices for the long term gain.

Entirely dependent of course on how big the Saints transfer kitty would be in the first place.
If Saints can get £30 million for Shaw plus Alexander Büttner from Manure, then provided there's add-ons for England appearance's and a decent sell on percentage they should take it. Maybe contentious I know, and on the assumption that the proceeds would be available to MoPo. But in my view there are more important areas of the squad that need strengthening and it may be necessary to make some sacrifices for the long term gain. Entirely dependent of course on how big the Saints transfer kitty would be in the first place. Blackknight
  • Score: 1

10:00am Thu 24 Apr 14

bathsaints says...

Why would anyone want to go to Man Utd? They probably won't be in Europe next season and even with a lot of money spent they aren't guarantee to break back into the top 4 for a while, look at Liverpool after their heyday it has taken them a long time and they will only get stronger now they have money generated from champions league. Wages aside I can't see any beneift to their careers for Shaw or Adam going to Manure.....but hey what do I know!
Why would anyone want to go to Man Utd? They probably won't be in Europe next season and even with a lot of money spent they aren't guarantee to break back into the top 4 for a while, look at Liverpool after their heyday it has taken them a long time and they will only get stronger now they have money generated from champions league. Wages aside I can't see any beneift to their careers for Shaw or Adam going to Manure.....but hey what do I know! bathsaints
  • Score: 4

10:54am Thu 24 Apr 14

george chivers says...

Golden_Salamander wrote:
A few weeks ago they were "confident" that we would sell for £22M.
Then last week they were "confident" that we would accept £27M and he would accept 80k a week.

Now today they are "confident" that £30M and 100k a week will be accepted.

However, the last words from Ralph were that he WOULD NOT be sold,
and Pochettino said "Luke would be at St Marys next season".

This is really a TEST for Ralph and whether the fans can believe him !!!!
I beg to differ. He said there was no need to sell him. That is a political statement he can refer back to and say I didn't want to sell him. He wanted to go.

It's not a commitment. Just for the record I want him to stay but I won't be surprised if he goes.
[quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: A few weeks ago they were "confident" that we would sell for £22M. Then last week they were "confident" that we would accept £27M and he would accept 80k a week. Now today they are "confident" that £30M and 100k a week will be accepted. However, the last words from Ralph were that he WOULD NOT be sold, and Pochettino said "Luke would be at St Marys next season". This is really a TEST for Ralph and whether the fans can believe him !!!![/p][/quote]I beg to differ. He said there was no need to sell him. That is a political statement he can refer back to and say I didn't want to sell him. He wanted to go. It's not a commitment. Just for the record I want him to stay but I won't be surprised if he goes. george chivers
  • Score: 0

1:24pm Thu 24 Apr 14

kiddynamite says...

if you were Luke would you stay at Saints or move to a top European club and probably triple the wage??? Yeah im sure you would all show loyalty and stay. lol
if you were Luke would you stay at Saints or move to a top European club and probably triple the wage??? Yeah im sure you would all show loyalty and stay. lol kiddynamite
  • Score: -2

1:29pm Thu 24 Apr 14

kiddynamite says...

george chivers wrote:
Golden_Salamander wrote:
A few weeks ago they were "confident" that we would sell for £22M.
Then last week they were "confident" that we would accept £27M and he would accept 80k a week.

Now today they are "confident" that £30M and 100k a week will be accepted.

However, the last words from Ralph were that he WOULD NOT be sold,
and Pochettino said "Luke would be at St Marys next season".

This is really a TEST for Ralph and whether the fans can believe him !!!!
I beg to differ. He said there was no need to sell him. That is a political statement he can refer back to and say I didn't want to sell him. He wanted to go.

It's not a commitment. Just for the record I want him to stay but I won't be surprised if he goes.
I remember a Harry Rednapp saying in no way at all will i be going to portsmouth fc, then 2 days later he did! Have you not learnt yet that anyone associated with football talks rubbish, They all lie and make up crap every day.
Personally i think Luke will move as he is fast becoming to big for saints.
Take the money and invest the cash wisely unliek Spurs did!
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: A few weeks ago they were "confident" that we would sell for £22M. Then last week they were "confident" that we would accept £27M and he would accept 80k a week. Now today they are "confident" that £30M and 100k a week will be accepted. However, the last words from Ralph were that he WOULD NOT be sold, and Pochettino said "Luke would be at St Marys next season". This is really a TEST for Ralph and whether the fans can believe him !!!![/p][/quote]I beg to differ. He said there was no need to sell him. That is a political statement he can refer back to and say I didn't want to sell him. He wanted to go. It's not a commitment. Just for the record I want him to stay but I won't be surprised if he goes.[/p][/quote]I remember a Harry Rednapp saying in no way at all will i be going to portsmouth fc, then 2 days later he did! Have you not learnt yet that anyone associated with football talks rubbish, They all lie and make up crap every day. Personally i think Luke will move as he is fast becoming to big for saints. Take the money and invest the cash wisely unliek Spurs did! kiddynamite
  • Score: 1

1:29pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Beer Monster says...

St.Yorkie wrote:
Van Persie is too injury prone. Robben has no hair. Now Lakaku is a beast! Bale wants out at Madrid! Suarez is unsettled at Liverpool!
The world is our oyster after Brazil - let's just wait and see!
Can I just add to this that if Robben went to Saints, I would personally burn St. Mary's down in defiance.
[quote][p][bold]St.Yorkie[/bold] wrote: Van Persie is too injury prone. Robben has no hair. Now Lakaku is a beast! Bale wants out at Madrid! Suarez is unsettled at Liverpool! The world is our oyster after Brazil - let's just wait and see![/p][/quote]Can I just add to this that if Robben went to Saints, I would personally burn St. Mary's down in defiance. Beer Monster
  • Score: 0

6:04pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Stroppy_gramps says...

kiddynamite wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Golden_Salamander wrote:
A few weeks ago they were "confident" that we would sell for £22M.
Then last week they were "confident" that we would accept £27M and he would accept 80k a week.

Now today they are "confident" that £30M and 100k a week will be accepted.

However, the last words from Ralph were that he WOULD NOT be sold,
and Pochettino said "Luke would be at St Marys next season".

This is really a TEST for Ralph and whether the fans can believe him !!!!
I beg to differ. He said there was no need to sell him. That is a political statement he can refer back to and say I didn't want to sell him. He wanted to go.

It's not a commitment. Just for the record I want him to stay but I won't be surprised if he goes.
I remember a Harry Rednapp saying in no way at all will i be going to portsmouth fc, then 2 days later he did! Have you not learnt yet that anyone associated with football talks rubbish, They all lie and make up crap every day.
Personally i think Luke will move as he is fast becoming to big for saints.
Take the money and invest the cash wisely unliek Spurs did!
what an archaic attitude you have.

no club would ever become big with your attitude.

We are Saints, we've achieved amazing back to back promotions in the Premier League and we are currently sitting one spot behind Man U. Everyone wants our players because they are quality and we ARE on our way to the top of the Premier League.

best suck it up Princess.
[quote][p][bold]kiddynamite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: A few weeks ago they were "confident" that we would sell for £22M. Then last week they were "confident" that we would accept £27M and he would accept 80k a week. Now today they are "confident" that £30M and 100k a week will be accepted. However, the last words from Ralph were that he WOULD NOT be sold, and Pochettino said "Luke would be at St Marys next season". This is really a TEST for Ralph and whether the fans can believe him !!!![/p][/quote]I beg to differ. He said there was no need to sell him. That is a political statement he can refer back to and say I didn't want to sell him. He wanted to go. It's not a commitment. Just for the record I want him to stay but I won't be surprised if he goes.[/p][/quote]I remember a Harry Rednapp saying in no way at all will i be going to portsmouth fc, then 2 days later he did! Have you not learnt yet that anyone associated with football talks rubbish, They all lie and make up crap every day. Personally i think Luke will move as he is fast becoming to big for saints. Take the money and invest the cash wisely unliek Spurs did![/p][/quote]what an archaic attitude you have. no club would ever become big with your attitude. We are Saints, we've achieved amazing back to back promotions in the Premier League and we are currently sitting one spot behind Man U. Everyone wants our players because they are quality and we ARE on our way to the top of the Premier League. best suck it up Princess. Stroppy_gramps
  • Score: 0

8:52pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Baybrit says...

MU have debts of almost 400 million pounds, advertising revenues are down, no CL revenue. And still they spend like drunken sailors. Sounds like a large Pompey.
MU have debts of almost 400 million pounds, advertising revenues are down, no CL revenue. And still they spend like drunken sailors. Sounds like a large Pompey. Baybrit
  • Score: 2

11:24pm Thu 24 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

kiddynamite wrote:
if you were Luke would you stay at Saints or move to a top European club and probably triple the wage??? Yeah im sure you would all show loyalty and stay. lol
Twaddle, the kid is only 18, a major move now could wreck his progress as a player and end up with him on the scrap heap like so many others that saw stars and only found mud.
[quote][p][bold]kiddynamite[/bold] wrote: if you were Luke would you stay at Saints or move to a top European club and probably triple the wage??? Yeah im sure you would all show loyalty and stay. lol[/p][/quote]Twaddle, the kid is only 18, a major move now could wreck his progress as a player and end up with him on the scrap heap like so many others that saw stars and only found mud. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

12:51am Fri 25 Apr 14

forest-dweller says...

Baybrit wrote:
MU have debts of almost 400 million pounds, advertising revenues are down, no CL revenue. And still they spend like drunken sailors. Sounds like a large Pompey.
Their revenue to June 2013 was something like £362m. Wages for the staff of 790 odd was about half of this. Then there is tax and presumably a dividend to share holders, interest payments etc. I think I read that without CL, this would be a drop of £50m, so still likely to be over £300m. So they have quite a bit of money, but as everyone knows that they are up the creek, they are going to have to pay handsomely for players.
[quote][p][bold]Baybrit[/bold] wrote: MU have debts of almost 400 million pounds, advertising revenues are down, no CL revenue. And still they spend like drunken sailors. Sounds like a large Pompey.[/p][/quote]Their revenue to June 2013 was something like £362m. Wages for the staff of 790 odd was about half of this. Then there is tax and presumably a dividend to share holders, interest payments etc. I think I read that without CL, this would be a drop of £50m, so still likely to be over £300m. So they have quite a bit of money, but as everyone knows that they are up the creek, they are going to have to pay handsomely for players. forest-dweller
  • Score: 0

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