Saints dumped out of FA Cup by Sunderland

Basingstoke Gazette: Craig Gardner hits the winning goal Craig Gardner hits the winning goal

Saints were dumped out of a second cup competition this season by Sunderland as they put in a disappointing performance to lose 1-0.

Basingstoke Gazette:

Two much changed sides battled out a poor quality FA Cup fifth round match with Craig Gardner’s strike four minutes into the second half the difference between the teams in a wet, windy and largely empty Stadium of Light.

It meant Saints failed make it through to the quarter-finals and their eight game unbeaten run came to an end at the hands of a club who have knocked them out of both domestic cup competitions this season and twice held them to draws in the league.

Victory was no more than the Capital One Cup finalists deserved despite Poyet making nine changes, as opposite number Mauricio Pochettino paid the price for not fielding his strongest team.

Gardner's decisive strike was a rare moment of quality in a game which otherwise failed to capture the imagination, although that will matter little to the Black Cats faithful as they dream of a Wembley double.

Southampton, who were unbeaten in seven matches in all competitions before kick-off, headed away on the long journey south wondering what might have been after ending a run of four clashes with the Wearsiders this season without claiming a single victory.

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Both Barclays Premier League fixtures ended in draws and Sunderland edged past the visitors in the Capital One Cup fourth round on their way to the final.

But if familiarity breeds contempt, it was commitments elsewhere which shaped Poyet's team selection as he made wholesale changes to the side which lost 2-0 at home to Hull last weekend and handed Argentinian striker Ignacio Scocco a debut.

The Uruguayan manager had admitted in advance that the last thing he wanted amid a cluttered fixture schedule was a replay, but neither his men nor the Saints did much to avoid that situation in a drab opening 45 minutes.

Sunderland had Lee Cattermole making his 100th start for the club, and he proved impressive in the holding midfield role, while Emanuele Giaccherini and Fabio Borini caused problems out wide. The hosts took the game to the visitors for long periods, but created few chances of any note.

Basingstoke Gazette:

They were appealing in vain for a penalty after Luke Shaw and Borini collided just inside the box with 12 minutes gone, but referee Mike Dean waved play on, much to the annoyance of the locals.

Giaccherini threatened to make the most of full-back Nathaniel Clyne's 21st-minute slip as he carved his way into the penalty area, but he and team-mate Gardner collided as both shaped to shoot and the chance went begging.

Borini was aggrieved to be given offside, and with some justification, after being played in over the top by central defender Santiago Vergini. Southampton goalkeeper Kelvin Davis was delighted to see the flag go up as the Italian's shot squirmed through his defences.

Southampton gradually worked their way into the game as Adam Lallana started to make his presence felt, and he was the source of their only real chance when he floated a cross to Lambert, who headed down for the on-rushing James Ward-Prowse.

However, the midfielder scuffed his effort into the ground and goalkeeper Oscar Ustari was able to save comfortably.

Basingstoke Gazette:

But the game finally came to life four minutes after the restart when Gardner capitalised on dithering among the Southampton defenders to lash an unstoppable shot past helpless former Sunderland goalkeeper Davis and in off the underside of the crossbar.

Southampton's response was limp to say the least, with the game deteriorating into an untidy midfield scramble, although Steven Davis did whistle a right-footed shot from long distance past Ustari's left post with 58 minutes gone.

Pochettino made his move with 28 minutes remaining when he replaced Ward-Prowse and Guly Do Prado with Morgan Schneiderlin and Jay Rodriguez, with his side finally showing signs of life.

Schneiderlin in particular made a difference as the visitors started to compete in the middle of the park.

Sunderland might have increased their lead with Sebastian Larsson firing straight at goalkeeper Davis with 15 minutes remaining, while Lallana passed up a gilt-edged chance to level four minutes later when he failed to convert Clyne's inviting near-post cross.

Basingstoke Gazette:

Lambert really should have equalised eight minutes from time when Clyne picked him out in front of goal, but the striker contrived to lift the ball over the bar from just three yards.

Substitute Connor Wickham and Borini both went close in a tense conclusion, but Gardner's contribution was ultimately enough.

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3:01pm Sat 15 Feb 14

insider1234 says...

Big let down. That was poor against Sunderlands reserve team. Why take off Lallana with 10 mins to go and needing a goal? Him and Clyne were the only good players. Does MP really think we can finish 4th? We can't and should value the FA cup and take it seriously, that means playing 1st eleven, Our no.1 keeper, top goal scorer etc. Thanks a lot , I hope you refund the fans that went up there.
Big let down. That was poor against Sunderlands reserve team. Why take off Lallana with 10 mins to go and needing a goal? Him and Clyne were the only good players. Does MP really think we can finish 4th? We can't and should value the FA cup and take it seriously, that means playing 1st eleven, Our no.1 keeper, top goal scorer etc. Thanks a lot , I hope you refund the fans that went up there. insider1234

3:01pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Costa Baz says...

That was a very poor performance.
That was a very poor performance. Costa Baz

3:02pm Sat 15 Feb 14

saint61 says...

It's done. We lost, move on.
It's done. We lost, move on. saint61

3:04pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Costa Baz says...

Costa Baz wrote:
That was a very poor performance.
That can only be made worse by Sunderland being drawn at home against the rank outsiders, in the QF.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: That was a very poor performance.[/p][/quote]That can only be made worse by Sunderland being drawn at home against the rank outsiders, in the QF. Costa Baz

3:06pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Santa Retfordia says...

Well that was Nathan Dyer. I imagine the recriminations will be very long and very boring so I'll leave you to it.
Well that was Nathan Dyer. I imagine the recriminations will be very long and very boring so I'll leave you to it. Santa Retfordia

3:08pm Sat 15 Feb 14

likewatchingbrazil says...

we were not dumped out by sunderland we were dumped out by poch and a lack of interest by players
we were not dumped out by sunderland we were dumped out by poch and a lack of interest by players likewatchingbrazil

3:08pm Sat 15 Feb 14

miltonarcher says...

Poch, today you showed a lack of respect for the tradition of the FA Cup and the fans who made the long trip up north. You should reimburse them out of your own pocket. Abysmal performance.
Poch, today you showed a lack of respect for the tradition of the FA Cup and the fans who made the long trip up north. You should reimburse them out of your own pocket. Abysmal performance. miltonarcher

3:10pm Sat 15 Feb 14

promised land says...

I now know not to bother paying to watch and travel to any cup games Saints are involved in. If management can't be bothered why should I ? Felt sorry for the fans who went today. A double whammy for those who also went to the league cup too. Shameful !
I now know not to bother paying to watch and travel to any cup games Saints are involved in. If management can't be bothered why should I ? Felt sorry for the fans who went today. A double whammy for those who also went to the league cup too. Shameful ! promised land

3:10pm Sat 15 Feb 14

southamptontilidie says...

poch and the majority of the team today should be ashamed of themselves
poch and the majority of the team today should be ashamed of themselves southamptontilidie

3:14pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Harold K Steptoe says...

We've had all this old pony about wanting to win the cup, well this just shows it was lies to keep the fans happy. What was Poch's pre match team talk " just don't score lads, I want out of this ". That was so obvious it was painful, wouldn't be surprised if the FA investigate us for match fixing. If they didn't want to progress why not play all the kids .
We've had all this old pony about wanting to win the cup, well this just shows it was lies to keep the fans happy. What was Poch's pre match team talk " just don't score lads, I want out of this ". That was so obvious it was painful, wouldn't be surprised if the FA investigate us for match fixing. If they didn't want to progress why not play all the kids . Harold K Steptoe

3:14pm Sat 15 Feb 14

AndyAndrews says...

A dire performance by a deliberately weakened team who didn't seem willing to make an effort until it was too late. Lambert has managed to get an England shirt and my vote for being sold, all in the same season: that point blank miss was as pathetic as the rest of his play. Do Prado useless as usual. Wanyama not much better and at fault for the goal. The manager has always made it clear (via interpreter of course) he doesn't care about the FA Cup: well most fans do, especially when we're safe from relegation and unlikely to get in the top 5. Thank Heavens the game only cost me a pint at the pub...
A dire performance by a deliberately weakened team who didn't seem willing to make an effort until it was too late. Lambert has managed to get an England shirt and my vote for being sold, all in the same season: that point blank miss was as pathetic as the rest of his play. Do Prado useless as usual. Wanyama not much better and at fault for the goal. The manager has always made it clear (via interpreter of course) he doesn't care about the FA Cup: well most fans do, especially when we're safe from relegation and unlikely to get in the top 5. Thank Heavens the game only cost me a pint at the pub... AndyAndrews

3:15pm Sat 15 Feb 14

TIL 7468 says...

Ours is not to reason wh
Ours is not to reason wh TIL 7468

3:16pm Sat 15 Feb 14

David Crook says...

What happened with the spirit of 1976,Davis was talking about,with 20minutes to go why was Jack Cork not brought on,Prado is out of his depth in this league.Saints had a great chance for the next round draw and fluffed it,if Sunderland go down,please can we have Gus Poyet.
What happened with the spirit of 1976,Davis was talking about,with 20minutes to go why was Jack Cork not brought on,Prado is out of his depth in this league.Saints had a great chance for the next round draw and fluffed it,if Sunderland go down,please can we have Gus Poyet. David Crook

3:22pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Having posted plenty on the match thread, my fingers are sweating more than most of the players, so all I can be 4rsed to say now is 'COME ON WIGAN!'.
Having posted plenty on the match thread, my fingers are sweating more than most of the players, so all I can be 4rsed to say now is 'COME ON WIGAN!'. Strasbourg Saint

3:22pm Sat 15 Feb 14

eastsidemush says...

As much as I am a big admirer of MoPo, He obviously is not a lover of the FA Cup.
As soon as I saw the Saints line up, I feared the worse.
Got to feel sorry for our fans that trekked all that way to see a half hearted performance like that.
I did suggest in a post earlier this week that our manager wasn't interested in this competition and I got severely thumbed down for saying it.
I suppose in football as in life, you reap what you sow.
As much as I am a big admirer of MoPo, He obviously is not a lover of the FA Cup. As soon as I saw the Saints line up, I feared the worse. Got to feel sorry for our fans that trekked all that way to see a half hearted performance like that. I did suggest in a post earlier this week that our manager wasn't interested in this competition and I got severely thumbed down for saying it. I suppose in football as in life, you reap what you sow. eastsidemush

3:23pm Sat 15 Feb 14

andoru says...

One word review: pooh*

*I pondered which word to go with but in the end I want to keep this site safe for family viewing, which can't be said of Saints performance today.
One word review: pooh* *I pondered which word to go with but in the end I want to keep this site safe for family viewing, which can't be said of Saints performance today. andoru

3:24pm Sat 15 Feb 14

InCortesewetrust says...

It's only football, its not life or death, its not as it affects your life. , its not as your pumping water out your front room whilst you manoeuvre around your floating possessions, feel greatfull you can mone about immaterial things,
It's only football, its not life or death, its not as it affects your life. , its not as your pumping water out your front room whilst you manoeuvre around your floating possessions, feel greatfull you can mone about immaterial things, InCortesewetrust

3:27pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Golden_Salamander says...

There seemed a total lack of interest from the players for this match
There was no pressing, no passing, no marking, no running off the ball, the worst performance since the dark days of 2008.
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I wonder whether "the Don" had the players contracts weighted so that the performance related pay eg win bonus, goal bonuses, appearances, league position etc only apply to league matches and nothing for cup games.
E.g. perhaps the players have a big bonus if they finish top 7 etc and that is their aim, because they looked disinterested in this game..
There seemed a total lack of interest from the players for this match There was no pressing, no passing, no marking, no running off the ball, the worst performance since the dark days of 2008. . I wonder whether "the Don" had the players contracts weighted so that the performance related pay eg win bonus, goal bonuses, appearances, league position etc only apply to league matches and nothing for cup games. E.g. perhaps the players have a big bonus if they finish top 7 etc and that is their aim, because they looked disinterested in this game.. Golden_Salamander

3:27pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Saints1980 says...

Feel very let down by performance today. I even purchased BT Sport today as I thought I might need it for the cup run! Just gutted and to be honest the writing was on the wall on Tuesday when we put our strongest side out against Hull. I am almost certain that given our league position most fans would rather changes were made for that game and we could even have accepted a loss there if we were to go all out for the cup game. Just gutted as I feel a massive opportunity gone begging today, Sunderland are crap and were there for the taking. Poch is obviously well thought of here but he has just scored a massive own goal with the fans today. We will not forget this in a hurry. Gutted, just gutted....
Feel very let down by performance today. I even purchased BT Sport today as I thought I might need it for the cup run! Just gutted and to be honest the writing was on the wall on Tuesday when we put our strongest side out against Hull. I am almost certain that given our league position most fans would rather changes were made for that game and we could even have accepted a loss there if we were to go all out for the cup game. Just gutted as I feel a massive opportunity gone begging today, Sunderland are crap and were there for the taking. Poch is obviously well thought of here but he has just scored a massive own goal with the fans today. We will not forget this in a hurry. Gutted, just gutted.... Saints1980

3:28pm Sat 15 Feb 14

rednwhite72 says...

There's good days and there's bad days, you can't have one without the other. Dust yourself off and pick yourself up and keep supporting.
There's good days and there's bad days, you can't have one without the other. Dust yourself off and pick yourself up and keep supporting. rednwhite72

3:29pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Egomaniac says...

InCortesewetrust wrote:
It's only football, its not life or death, its not as it affects your life. , its not as your pumping water out your front room whilst you manoeuvre around your floating possessions, feel greatfull you can mone about immaterial things,
Well said!
[quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: It's only football, its not life or death, its not as it affects your life. , its not as your pumping water out your front room whilst you manoeuvre around your floating possessions, feel greatfull you can mone about immaterial things,[/p][/quote]Well said! Egomaniac

3:30pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Saintsincethe60s says...

As soon as I saw the first name "Davis" on the team sheet then I knew that we were not taking it seriously, when was the last time he kept a clean sheet - time to move on Kelvin.
As soon as I saw the first name "Davis" on the team sheet then I knew that we were not taking it seriously, when was the last time he kept a clean sheet - time to move on Kelvin. Saintsincethe60s

3:31pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Egomaniac says...

rednwhite72 wrote:
There's good days and there's bad days, you can't have one without the other. Dust yourself off and pick yourself up and keep supporting.
Just as I said (though in different words!) on the previous thread. Well said.

Totally agree.

We must keep the faith ….
[quote][p][bold]rednwhite72[/bold] wrote: There's good days and there's bad days, you can't have one without the other. Dust yourself off and pick yourself up and keep supporting.[/p][/quote]Just as I said (though in different words!) on the previous thread. Well said. Totally agree. We must keep the faith …. Egomaniac

3:31pm Sat 15 Feb 14

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH says...

insider1234 wrote:
Big let down. That was poor against Sunderlands reserve team. Why take off Lallana with 10 mins to go and needing a goal? Him and Clyne were the only good players. Does MP really think we can finish 4th? We can't and should value the FA cup and take it seriously, that means playing 1st eleven, Our no.1 keeper, top goal scorer etc. Thanks a lot , I hope you refund the fans that went up there.
AGREE - BIG LET DOWN AND MASSIVE DISAPPOINTMENT AS WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A WEMBLEY VISIT THIS YEAR.

WE FIGHT IN THE LEAGUE

UP TO WET SPAM NEXT WEEK - need SRL and Adam rested for next week.
Jack will be a cert for this one.

Wet Spam will be nice and rested from their visit to the Middle East - but that can count against Teams sometimes.

EVERY GAME NOW - WE FIGHT FOR THE WIN.

COYR
[quote][p][bold]insider1234[/bold] wrote: Big let down. That was poor against Sunderlands reserve team. Why take off Lallana with 10 mins to go and needing a goal? Him and Clyne were the only good players. Does MP really think we can finish 4th? We can't and should value the FA cup and take it seriously, that means playing 1st eleven, Our no.1 keeper, top goal scorer etc. Thanks a lot , I hope you refund the fans that went up there.[/p][/quote]AGREE - BIG LET DOWN AND MASSIVE DISAPPOINTMENT AS WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A WEMBLEY VISIT THIS YEAR. WE FIGHT IN THE LEAGUE UP TO WET SPAM NEXT WEEK - need SRL and Adam rested for next week. Jack will be a cert for this one. Wet Spam will be nice and rested from their visit to the Middle East - but that can count against Teams sometimes. EVERY GAME NOW - WE FIGHT FOR THE WIN. COYR REDARMYRULETHESOUTH

3:32pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Saints1980 says...

Saintsincethe60s wrote:
As soon as I saw the first name "Davis" on the team sheet then I knew that we were not taking it seriously, when was the last time he kept a clean sheet - time to move on Kelvin.
Jesus, I don't think you can blame Kelvin for that! It was the only moment of quality in the match. You should blame Yoshida for giving the ball away so easily in the lead up to it.
[quote][p][bold]Saintsincethe60s[/bold] wrote: As soon as I saw the first name "Davis" on the team sheet then I knew that we were not taking it seriously, when was the last time he kept a clean sheet - time to move on Kelvin.[/p][/quote]Jesus, I don't think you can blame Kelvin for that! It was the only moment of quality in the match. You should blame Yoshida for giving the ball away so easily in the lead up to it. Saints1980

3:33pm Sat 15 Feb 14

up saints says...

fa cup chucked away that was cr..ap mp picked the team no one else to blame
fa cup chucked away that was cr..ap mp picked the team no one else to blame up saints

3:34pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Norwegian Saint says...

How dare Jesus come out and say what he did in the interview!!!
"No, the players are not down"
"It's a tiny bit sad to be out of the cup"
"We started with our strongest side"!!!!!!!!!!!
WTF!!!!!?????

Jesus.... go and do a DiCanio and say that again to the fans who travelled all the way up there for that... and take your fat wallet and scrawny face and pay them their money back! Disgraceful!

All across the internet people are asking why that line up? Disrespectful to the Cup, us fans and the name of the club. I was annoyed when they knocked us out of the league cup, now I am fuming!

Saying those comments in the interview is nowhere near good enough Jesus!
How dare Jesus come out and say what he did in the interview!!! "No, the players are not down" "It's a tiny bit sad to be out of the cup" "We started with our strongest side"!!!!!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!????? Jesus.... go and do a DiCanio and say that again to the fans who travelled all the way up there for that... and take your fat wallet and scrawny face and pay them their money back! Disgraceful! All across the internet people are asking why that line up? Disrespectful to the Cup, us fans and the name of the club. I was annoyed when they knocked us out of the league cup, now I am fuming! Saying those comments in the interview is nowhere near good enough Jesus! Norwegian Saint

3:35pm Sat 15 Feb 14

andoru says...

InCortesewetrust wrote:
It's only football, its not life or death, its not as it affects your life. , its not as your pumping water out your front room whilst you manoeuvre around your floating possessions, feel greatfull you can mone about immaterial things,
Don't assume we all lead sunny lives. Maybe some of us do have more serious things to worry about and find escape in our football. I don't have much on my mind thankfully, and am grateful I do only have football to moan about ... but that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to moan about it when there is moaning to be done. They were lame today and need to be told.
[quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: It's only football, its not life or death, its not as it affects your life. , its not as your pumping water out your front room whilst you manoeuvre around your floating possessions, feel greatfull you can mone about immaterial things,[/p][/quote]Don't assume we all lead sunny lives. Maybe some of us do have more serious things to worry about and find escape in our football. I don't have much on my mind thankfully, and am grateful I do only have football to moan about ... but that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to moan about it when there is moaning to be done. They were lame today and need to be told. andoru

3:35pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

InCortesewetrust wrote:
It's only football, its not life or death, its not as it affects your life. , its not as your pumping water out your front room whilst you manoeuvre around your floating possessions, feel greatfull you can mone about immaterial things,
Good point, which provokes a good idea. How say those who were paid to 'perform' today donate their match fees to help flood victims across the SO post-code area?
[quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: It's only football, its not life or death, its not as it affects your life. , its not as your pumping water out your front room whilst you manoeuvre around your floating possessions, feel greatfull you can mone about immaterial things,[/p][/quote]Good point, which provokes a good idea. How say those who were paid to 'perform' today donate their match fees to help flood victims across the SO post-code area? Strasbourg Saint

3:40pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Rising_Son says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
How dare Jesus come out and say what he did in the interview!!!
"No, the players are not down"
"It's a tiny bit sad to be out of the cup"
"We started with our strongest side"!!!!!!!!!!!
WTF!!!!!?????

Jesus.... go and do a DiCanio and say that again to the fans who travelled all the way up there for that... and take your fat wallet and scrawny face and pay them their money back! Disgraceful!

All across the internet people are asking why that line up? Disrespectful to the Cup, us fans and the name of the club. I was annoyed when they knocked us out of the league cup, now I am fuming!

Saying those comments in the interview is nowhere near good enough Jesus!
Do you have anger management problems by any chance?
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: How dare Jesus come out and say what he did in the interview!!! "No, the players are not down" "It's a tiny bit sad to be out of the cup" "We started with our strongest side"!!!!!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!????? Jesus.... go and do a DiCanio and say that again to the fans who travelled all the way up there for that... and take your fat wallet and scrawny face and pay them their money back! Disgraceful! All across the internet people are asking why that line up? Disrespectful to the Cup, us fans and the name of the club. I was annoyed when they knocked us out of the league cup, now I am fuming! Saying those comments in the interview is nowhere near good enough Jesus![/p][/quote]Do you have anger management problems by any chance? Rising_Son

3:41pm Sat 15 Feb 14

redsnapper says...

It.s all about the squad and one cannot blame MP for giving players like Vic and JWP game time. (1)They need it (2) And earlier in the season they both played well.

But today,s lacklustre showing by everyone was probably down to the slow but inexorable decline of the attraction of the FA Cup. 38000 turned up for our premier game here but more than half stayed away today. Speaks volumes and the league game was 10 times better to watch than today,s rubbish.

Why is the FA Cup losing popularity? Probably because fans know that getting to Wembley probably means watching on TV as every year the FA blazers give less tickets to real supporters and more to Corporate interests.
It.s all about the squad and one cannot blame MP for giving players like Vic and JWP game time. (1)They need it (2) And earlier in the season they both played well. But today,s lacklustre showing by everyone was probably down to the slow but inexorable decline of the attraction of the FA Cup. 38000 turned up for our premier game here but more than half stayed away today. Speaks volumes and the league game was 10 times better to watch than today,s rubbish. Why is the FA Cup losing popularity? Probably because fans know that getting to Wembley probably means watching on TV as every year the FA blazers give less tickets to real supporters and more to Corporate interests. redsnapper

3:41pm Sat 15 Feb 14

StElsass says...

Very disappointing!
As my 14 year old just said, MP has managed to get the fans on his back in just one game! And that from a position where he could seemingly do nothing wrong. A bit silly really!
I wonder what effect this will have on attendances for the rest of the season. We're in February and have basically nothing left to play for.. or against.
Very disappointing! As my 14 year old just said, MP has managed to get the fans on his back in just one game! And that from a position where he could seemingly do nothing wrong. A bit silly really! I wonder what effect this will have on attendances for the rest of the season. We're in February and have basically nothing left to play for.. or against. StElsass

3:41pm Sat 15 Feb 14

saint61 says...

Egomaniac wrote:
rednwhite72 wrote:
There's good days and there's bad days, you can't have one without the other. Dust yourself off and pick yourself up and keep supporting.
Just as I said (though in different words!) on the previous thread. Well said.

Totally agree.

We must keep the faith ….
Keep the faith....we all have a bad day at the office.......let's move on!
[quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rednwhite72[/bold] wrote: There's good days and there's bad days, you can't have one without the other. Dust yourself off and pick yourself up and keep supporting.[/p][/quote]Just as I said (though in different words!) on the previous thread. Well said. Totally agree. We must keep the faith ….[/p][/quote]Keep the faith....we all have a bad day at the office.......let's move on! saint61

3:45pm Sat 15 Feb 14

saintbobby says...

Many of us are very disappointed by the approach to this game, one that was easily winnable.

Poyet said he'd rather lose than draw and puts out a weakened team and we surely beat him at that game! Why, why, why when our League spot is secure, would we not want to make sure we win this game and try for Wembley.

Just remember how the first team had some 85% of the play when Saints dominated the first half of the recent League game, but fell away in that 2nd half. No point going on - we can't beat Sunderland and today it looked like we did not even want to. My hankie is very damp!

It is obvious that, brilliant as he is, MoPo has no idea of the romance of the Cup.. He cannot have seen the exhurerance and the happiness that a Wembley Cup Final brings for all the fans and especially those who are lucky enough to be there. What a wasted opportunity and particularly now that so many big teams have been beaten this year.

This could have been a golden chance for the desired European football the club claims to want. And the point has been made that it was a slap in the face (and the pockets) of the brilliant fans who spent a lot of time and money to travel to the North East.

Very fed up and disappointed.
Many of us are very disappointed by the approach to this game, one that was easily winnable. Poyet said he'd rather lose than draw and puts out a weakened team and we surely beat him at that game! Why, why, why when our League spot is secure, would we not want to make sure we win this game and try for Wembley. Just remember how the first team had some 85% of the play when Saints dominated the first half of the recent League game, but fell away in that 2nd half. No point going on - we can't beat Sunderland and today it looked like we did not even want to. My hankie is very damp! It is obvious that, brilliant as he is, MoPo has no idea of the romance of the Cup.. He cannot have seen the exhurerance and the happiness that a Wembley Cup Final brings for all the fans and especially those who are lucky enough to be there. What a wasted opportunity and particularly now that so many big teams have been beaten this year. This could have been a golden chance for the desired European football the club claims to want. And the point has been made that it was a slap in the face (and the pockets) of the brilliant fans who spent a lot of time and money to travel to the North East. Very fed up and disappointed. saintbobby

3:46pm Sat 15 Feb 14

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
How dare Jesus come out and say what he did in the interview!!!
"No, the players are not down"
"It's a tiny bit sad to be out of the cup"
"We started with our strongest side"!!!!!!!!!!!
WTF!!!!!?????

Jesus.... go and do a DiCanio and say that again to the fans who travelled all the way up there for that... and take your fat wallet and scrawny face and pay them their money back! Disgraceful!

All across the internet people are asking why that line up? Disrespectful to the Cup, us fans and the name of the club. I was annoyed when they knocked us out of the league cup, now I am fuming!

Saying those comments in the interview is nowhere near good enough Jesus!
AGREE NORWEGIAN SAINT - YOU HAVE TOLD IT AS IT IS.

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON.

COYR
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: How dare Jesus come out and say what he did in the interview!!! "No, the players are not down" "It's a tiny bit sad to be out of the cup" "We started with our strongest side"!!!!!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!????? Jesus.... go and do a DiCanio and say that again to the fans who travelled all the way up there for that... and take your fat wallet and scrawny face and pay them their money back! Disgraceful! All across the internet people are asking why that line up? Disrespectful to the Cup, us fans and the name of the club. I was annoyed when they knocked us out of the league cup, now I am fuming! Saying those comments in the interview is nowhere near good enough Jesus![/p][/quote]AGREE NORWEGIAN SAINT - YOU HAVE TOLD IT AS IT IS. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR REDARMYRULETHESOUTH

3:52pm Sat 15 Feb 14

bakeyboy says...

Obvious I know but we need a big clear out in the summer and that might even include Mopo and his team, not because of today's result but I just feel that Katharine does not have the vision that NC had which is part of the reason he left and Mopo knows this hence the lack of spending in the January window, he has probably taken Saints as far as we are going to go and the whole club needs to start scaling down our aspirations and stop talking about Europe. On the player side of things we moved quite a few out in January but there is still more to go, Jos, Guly, Kelvin (please dont give him a coaching job) Gazza (wont make it at top level) Osvaldo, Wanyama (more wasted money) ward-prowse (needs to go out on loan in championship) Ricki (his best is behind him and he wont be going to Brazil) so I think the summer will be very busy. Just hope NC is out there somewhere trying to get a new backer to come in.
Obvious I know but we need a big clear out in the summer and that might even include Mopo and his team, not because of today's result but I just feel that Katharine does not have the vision that NC had which is part of the reason he left and Mopo knows this hence the lack of spending in the January window, he has probably taken Saints as far as we are going to go and the whole club needs to start scaling down our aspirations and stop talking about Europe. On the player side of things we moved quite a few out in January but there is still more to go, Jos, Guly, Kelvin (please dont give him a coaching job) Gazza (wont make it at top level) Osvaldo, Wanyama (more wasted money) ward-prowse (needs to go out on loan in championship) Ricki (his best is behind him and he wont be going to Brazil) so I think the summer will be very busy. Just hope NC is out there somewhere trying to get a new backer to come in. bakeyboy

3:53pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Norwegian Saint says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Norwegian Saint wrote:
How dare Jesus come out and say what he did in the interview!!!
"No, the players are not down"
"It's a tiny bit sad to be out of the cup"
"We started with our strongest side"!!!!!!!!!!!
WTF!!!!!?????

Jesus.... go and do a DiCanio and say that again to the fans who travelled all the way up there for that... and take your fat wallet and scrawny face and pay them their money back! Disgraceful!

All across the internet people are asking why that line up? Disrespectful to the Cup, us fans and the name of the club. I was annoyed when they knocked us out of the league cup, now I am fuming!

Saying those comments in the interview is nowhere near good enough Jesus!
Do you have anger management problems by any chance?
Just putting across how disappointed that team selection and interview was.
Oh, not to forget the mistake of your favorite Maya giving a very poor pass for their goal (yes, Wanyama should have put a foot in)
Angry...? Yes!
Will I get over it...? Yes!
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: How dare Jesus come out and say what he did in the interview!!! "No, the players are not down" "It's a tiny bit sad to be out of the cup" "We started with our strongest side"!!!!!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!????? Jesus.... go and do a DiCanio and say that again to the fans who travelled all the way up there for that... and take your fat wallet and scrawny face and pay them their money back! Disgraceful! All across the internet people are asking why that line up? Disrespectful to the Cup, us fans and the name of the club. I was annoyed when they knocked us out of the league cup, now I am fuming! Saying those comments in the interview is nowhere near good enough Jesus![/p][/quote]Do you have anger management problems by any chance?[/p][/quote]Just putting across how disappointed that team selection and interview was. Oh, not to forget the mistake of your favorite Maya giving a very poor pass for their goal (yes, Wanyama should have put a foot in) Angry...? Yes! Will I get over it...? Yes! Norwegian Saint

3:56pm Sat 15 Feb 14

StElsass says...

saint61 wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
rednwhite72 wrote:
There's good days and there's bad days, you can't have one without the other. Dust yourself off and pick yourself up and keep supporting.
Just as I said (though in different words!) on the previous thread. Well said.

Totally agree.

We must keep the faith ….
Keep the faith....we all have a bad day at the office.......let's move on!
It has nothing to do with faith.
People are disappointed because what could quite easily have been an exciting end to the season with a potential day out at Wembley if we'd made the effort, has turned into a battle for 8th place in the League and a succession of more or less meaningless games.
[quote][p][bold]saint61[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rednwhite72[/bold] wrote: There's good days and there's bad days, you can't have one without the other. Dust yourself off and pick yourself up and keep supporting.[/p][/quote]Just as I said (though in different words!) on the previous thread. Well said. Totally agree. We must keep the faith ….[/p][/quote]Keep the faith....we all have a bad day at the office.......let's move on![/p][/quote]It has nothing to do with faith. People are disappointed because what could quite easily have been an exciting end to the season with a potential day out at Wembley if we'd made the effort, has turned into a battle for 8th place in the League and a succession of more or less meaningless games. StElsass

3:56pm Sat 15 Feb 14

saint Compo says...

Saints management (but probably not the players) were not bothered about winning the FA Cup, the reward (!!) for which is a place in the Euro Mickey Mouse Cup next season and a guaranteed struggle against relegation. Unless you have a large squad, you don't want all those extra games for scant financial reward.

Sunderland have already got a place in the Mickey Mouse Cup because even as runners-up to Man City (who will get a Champions League place), they will qualify. Expect to see them struggle big-time in the Premiership next season.

To rescue the FA Cup the FA has to award a Champions League place to the winners. Otherwise it will continue to decline in importance.

Meanwhile, Saints fans have been denied the chance of a trip to Wembley.

All quite sad, really.

COYR
Saints management (but probably not the players) were not bothered about winning the FA Cup, the reward (!!) for which is a place in the Euro Mickey Mouse Cup next season and a guaranteed struggle against relegation. Unless you have a large squad, you don't want all those extra games for scant financial reward. Sunderland have already got a place in the Mickey Mouse Cup because even as runners-up to Man City (who will get a Champions League place), they will qualify. Expect to see them struggle big-time in the Premiership next season. To rescue the FA Cup the FA has to award a Champions League place to the winners. Otherwise it will continue to decline in importance. Meanwhile, Saints fans have been denied the chance of a trip to Wembley. All quite sad, really. COYR saint Compo

4:06pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Rising_Son says...

Norge, I'm not sure why you think Yoshida is my favourite player. I agree he made a poor pass. He also made some decent tackles that helped prevent goals. Wanyama also messed up the tackle. Others should have passed instead of shooting, and some others should have shot instead of passing. No one played well. They are all to blame. It was a very poor performance.
Norge, I'm not sure why you think Yoshida is my favourite player. I agree he made a poor pass. He also made some decent tackles that helped prevent goals. Wanyama also messed up the tackle. Others should have passed instead of shooting, and some others should have shot instead of passing. No one played well. They are all to blame. It was a very poor performance. Rising_Son

4:10pm Sat 15 Feb 14

george chivers says...

saint Compo wrote:
Saints management (but probably not the players) were not bothered about winning the FA Cup, the reward (!!) for which is a place in the Euro Mickey Mouse Cup next season and a guaranteed struggle against relegation. Unless you have a large squad, you don't want all those extra games for scant financial reward.

Sunderland have already got a place in the Mickey Mouse Cup because even as runners-up to Man City (who will get a Champions League place), they will qualify. Expect to see them struggle big-time in the Premiership next season.

To rescue the FA Cup the FA has to award a Champions League place to the winners. Otherwise it will continue to decline in importance.

Meanwhile, Saints fans have been denied the chance of a trip to Wembley.

All quite sad, really.

COYR
Absolutely spot on. But equally understandable from a financial perspective. Poch said twice last week that he wasn't interested in the Europa League which means the owners of club are not interested either.

The fans who travelled to Sunderland got a rough deal. And Poyet also won a game he didn't want to win. There is too much money in the Premier League and the Champions League to make domestic competitions viable for small and medium sized clubs, like Southampton.

A sad day for real fans and English Football. 16,000 fans versus 38,0000 for the league game.
[quote][p][bold]saint Compo[/bold] wrote: Saints management (but probably not the players) were not bothered about winning the FA Cup, the reward (!!) for which is a place in the Euro Mickey Mouse Cup next season and a guaranteed struggle against relegation. Unless you have a large squad, you don't want all those extra games for scant financial reward. Sunderland have already got a place in the Mickey Mouse Cup because even as runners-up to Man City (who will get a Champions League place), they will qualify. Expect to see them struggle big-time in the Premiership next season. To rescue the FA Cup the FA has to award a Champions League place to the winners. Otherwise it will continue to decline in importance. Meanwhile, Saints fans have been denied the chance of a trip to Wembley. All quite sad, really. COYR[/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on. But equally understandable from a financial perspective. Poch said twice last week that he wasn't interested in the Europa League which means the owners of club are not interested either. The fans who travelled to Sunderland got a rough deal. And Poyet also won a game he didn't want to win. There is too much money in the Premier League and the Champions League to make domestic competitions viable for small and medium sized clubs, like Southampton. A sad day for real fans and English Football. 16,000 fans versus 38,0000 for the league game. george chivers

4:23pm Sat 15 Feb 14

redsnapper says...

Winning the FA Cup means playing in the awful Europa League.


Glad we are out as our current squad is too small for an elongated season which would start straight after the World Cup and with 2 or even 3 Saints likely to reach Brasil that would spell disaster for next seasons league effort.
Winning the FA Cup means playing in the awful Europa League. Glad we are out as our current squad is too small for an elongated season which would start straight after the World Cup and with 2 or even 3 Saints likely to reach Brasil that would spell disaster for next seasons league effort. redsnapper

4:45pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

redsnapper wrote:
Winning the FA Cup means playing in the awful Europa League.


Glad we are out as our current squad is too small for an elongated season which would start straight after the World Cup and with 2 or even 3 Saints likely to reach Brasil that would spell disaster for next seasons league effort.
Not if, as some of us have suggested, you treat the Europa League with the disrespect it deserves and send the academy to play in it, giving the kids some great experience in the process.

Also, to be glad we're out of the FA Cup when we had the perfect opportunity to win it suggests that you don't want Saints to win anything other than the Premier League or the Champions League.
[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: Winning the FA Cup means playing in the awful Europa League. Glad we are out as our current squad is too small for an elongated season which would start straight after the World Cup and with 2 or even 3 Saints likely to reach Brasil that would spell disaster for next seasons league effort.[/p][/quote]Not if, as some of us have suggested, you treat the Europa League with the disrespect it deserves and send the academy to play in it, giving the kids some great experience in the process. Also, to be glad we're out of the FA Cup when we had the perfect opportunity to win it suggests that you don't want Saints to win anything other than the Premier League or the Champions League. Strasbourg Saint

5:01pm Sat 15 Feb 14

StElsass says...

redsnapper wrote:
Winning the FA Cup means playing in the awful Europa League.


Glad we are out as our current squad is too small for an elongated season which would start straight after the World Cup and with 2 or even 3 Saints likely to reach Brasil that would spell disaster for next seasons league effort.
And there was me thinking that winning the FA Cup meant a fantastic day out for thousands of people!
Phew!! That feels better.
[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: Winning the FA Cup means playing in the awful Europa League. Glad we are out as our current squad is too small for an elongated season which would start straight after the World Cup and with 2 or even 3 Saints likely to reach Brasil that would spell disaster for next seasons league effort.[/p][/quote]And there was me thinking that winning the FA Cup meant a fantastic day out for thousands of people! Phew!! That feels better. StElsass

5:13pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Pompey Forever says...

Ha... Ha... Ha....

Another season... another "dumping".....

You must be SO ashamed...

Ha... Ha...Ha.........
Ha... Ha... Ha.... Another season... another "dumping"..... You must be SO ashamed... Ha... Ha...Ha......... Pompey Forever

5:26pm Sat 15 Feb 14

tickymong says...

Just watched the game on tv, the finger of blame must be pointed towards the manager regarding team selection, foreign managers don't realise the importance of the FA Cup, until they do weakened teams will be picked.Let;s hope that the next manager next season will be English, they know all about the FA Cup tradition.After this performance MoPo needs to go, showed no passion at the game. We need a manager in the Lawrie Mac mould. Won the FA Cup,Runners Up in the First (now Premier) Division, Europe for a few seasons, League Cup Final, took Saints down but also got them promoted back.
Just watched the game on tv, the finger of blame must be pointed towards the manager regarding team selection, foreign managers don't realise the importance of the FA Cup, until they do weakened teams will be picked.Let;s hope that the next manager next season will be English, they know all about the FA Cup tradition.After this performance MoPo needs to go, showed no passion at the game. We need a manager in the Lawrie Mac mould. Won the FA Cup,Runners Up in the First (now Premier) Division, Europe for a few seasons, League Cup Final, took Saints down but also got them promoted back. tickymong

5:34pm Sat 15 Feb 14

IanRC5 says...

What a way to thank the fans and Jack Cork, you should be ashamed MoPo. Perhaps he does deserve Spurs after all. Don't think it is fair to blame the chair lady, not seen her do much wrong but the management's action towards the fans today was just disrespectful.
What a way to thank the fans and Jack Cork, you should be ashamed MoPo. Perhaps he does deserve Spurs after all. Don't think it is fair to blame the chair lady, not seen her do much wrong but the management's action towards the fans today was just disrespectful. IanRC5

5:38pm Sat 15 Feb 14

IanRC5 says...

AndyAndrews wrote:
A dire performance by a deliberately weakened team who didn't seem willing to make an effort until it was too late. Lambert has managed to get an England shirt and my vote for being sold, all in the same season: that point blank miss was as pathetic as the rest of his play. Do Prado useless as usual. Wanyama not much better and at fault for the goal. The manager has always made it clear (via interpreter of course) he doesn't care about the FA Cup: well most fans do, especially when we're safe from relegation and unlikely to get in the top 5. Thank Heavens the game only cost me a pint at the pub...
Utter BS, even Rickie has an off day occasionally. Are you going to have a go at Adam too for his miss.
[quote][p][bold]AndyAndrews[/bold] wrote: A dire performance by a deliberately weakened team who didn't seem willing to make an effort until it was too late. Lambert has managed to get an England shirt and my vote for being sold, all in the same season: that point blank miss was as pathetic as the rest of his play. Do Prado useless as usual. Wanyama not much better and at fault for the goal. The manager has always made it clear (via interpreter of course) he doesn't care about the FA Cup: well most fans do, especially when we're safe from relegation and unlikely to get in the top 5. Thank Heavens the game only cost me a pint at the pub...[/p][/quote]Utter BS, even Rickie has an off day occasionally. Are you going to have a go at Adam too for his miss. IanRC5

6:37pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Skating on thin ice says...

Pompey Forever wrote:
Ha... Ha... Ha....

Another season... another "dumping".....

You must be SO ashamed...

Ha... Ha...Ha.........
Pompey v Wimbledon, League 2 relegation battle, the winners will be a little more secure in mid-table.
Away supporters: 1999

Sunderland v Southampton, FA Cup 5th round, the winners will be one game from a Wembley semi-final, and three games away from qualifying for Europe.
Away supporters: 859

Respect to Wimbledon, a real club with real supporters!
[quote][p][bold]Pompey Forever[/bold] wrote: Ha... Ha... Ha.... Another season... another "dumping"..... You must be SO ashamed... Ha... Ha...Ha.........[/p][/quote]Pompey v Wimbledon, League 2 relegation battle, the winners will be a little more secure in mid-table. Away supporters: 1999 Sunderland v Southampton, FA Cup 5th round, the winners will be one game from a Wembley semi-final, and three games away from qualifying for Europe. Away supporters: 859 Respect to Wimbledon, a real club with real supporters! Skating on thin ice

6:46pm Sat 15 Feb 14

bigfella777 says...

What a lot of miserable glory hunters, 1-0 away to a team on the rise with a top manager is not that bad.
I suppose Mourinho deserves to be sacked as well, it's the stupid midweek fixture that has caused this, there was no need for it.
What a lot of miserable glory hunters, 1-0 away to a team on the rise with a top manager is not that bad. I suppose Mourinho deserves to be sacked as well, it's the stupid midweek fixture that has caused this, there was no need for it. bigfella777

9:17pm Sat 15 Feb 14

4stands says...

"No doy un damm de la fa cup o nuestros seguidores"

Yeah hahahhahahha get Jesus to translate that !! UP THE CHERRIES!
"No doy un damm de la fa cup o nuestros seguidores" Yeah hahahhahahha get Jesus to translate that !! UP THE CHERRIES! 4stands

9:18pm Sat 15 Feb 14

GHamilton says...

If i was the owner of SFC, i would be incandsent at MPs team choice today. He has comletely failed to understand what is important to this club and its supporters. The 800 Saints fans that travelled to Sunderland should be given their money back. Its over 35 years since this club won a major honour....with premiership status assured for next season this was a golden opportunity to get to Wembley and maybe win this great trophy. If we dont want to play Europa League, then we put out a 2nd or 3rd string side and and exit it before the knockout stages; what we dont do is throw away our only remaining hope of winning a trophy. The FA should promote this competition far more than they are currently doing. Maybe if they were to award 10 league points to the FA cup winners, 6 points to the beaten finalists,and 3 to the loosing semi finalists....manager
s and clubs might take it more seriously as these points may get them a Champions League place, help win them the title or help them to stay up....who knows; but two many managers especialy foriegn don't seem to be interested in this trophy .....and it looks ike we' ve got one of them.
If i was the owner of SFC, i would be incandsent at MPs team choice today. He has comletely failed to understand what is important to this club and its supporters. The 800 Saints fans that travelled to Sunderland should be given their money back. Its over 35 years since this club won a major honour....with premiership status assured for next season this was a golden opportunity to get to Wembley and maybe win this great trophy. If we dont want to play Europa League, then we put out a 2nd or 3rd string side and and exit it before the knockout stages; what we dont do is throw away our only remaining hope of winning a trophy. The FA should promote this competition far more than they are currently doing. Maybe if they were to award 10 league points to the FA cup winners, 6 points to the beaten finalists,and 3 to the loosing semi finalists....manager s and clubs might take it more seriously as these points may get them a Champions League place, help win them the title or help them to stay up....who knows; but two many managers especialy foriegn don't seem to be interested in this trophy .....and it looks ike we' ve got one of them. GHamilton

9:45pm Sat 15 Feb 14

chapellady says...

Have just got home from a 720 mile round trip to watch 90 minutes of the worst football. We refused to vote for man of the match on the coach coming back as there wasn't one................
Have just got home from a 720 mile round trip to watch 90 minutes of the worst football. We refused to vote for man of the match on the coach coming back as there wasn't one................ chapellady

10:16pm Sat 15 Feb 14

derek james says...

look on the bright side-hopefully sunderland will be so ties up in cup and league matches they'll be relegated-no great loss to the pl
look on the bright side-hopefully sunderland will be so ties up in cup and league matches they'll be relegated-no great loss to the pl derek james

1:24am Sun 16 Feb 14

03alpe01 says...

Saints do me a favour? Please refund match and travel tickets to all those who went up to watch that. They travelled the length of the Country to see you play like that when they could have just stayed at home and watched it on TV. You did the same when we lost 5-2 at Watford in the Cup a few years back so please do the same again. Thanks.
Saints do me a favour? Please refund match and travel tickets to all those who went up to watch that. They travelled the length of the Country to see you play like that when they could have just stayed at home and watched it on TV. You did the same when we lost 5-2 at Watford in the Cup a few years back so please do the same again. Thanks. 03alpe01

6:11am Sun 16 Feb 14

fritzer says...

Nothing left for this season now a couple of no score draws will see us through, so why not play the full under 18 squad for the remaining games, oh deary me what am I saying? I dont think we can do that co's there's the Premier League "place money" to be considered, now that is more important than the FA Cup.
What do ya think?????????
Nothing left for this season now a couple of no score draws will see us through, so why not play the full under 18 squad for the remaining games, oh deary me what am I saying? I dont think we can do that co's there's the Premier League "place money" to be considered, now that is more important than the FA Cup. What do ya think????????? fritzer

7:52am Sun 16 Feb 14

AndyAndrews says...

IanRC5 wrote:
AndyAndrews wrote:
A dire performance by a deliberately weakened team who didn't seem willing to make an effort until it was too late. Lambert has managed to get an England shirt and my vote for being sold, all in the same season: that point blank miss was as pathetic as the rest of his play. Do Prado useless as usual. Wanyama not much better and at fault for the goal. The manager has always made it clear (via interpreter of course) he doesn't care about the FA Cup: well most fans do, especially when we're safe from relegation and unlikely to get in the top 5. Thank Heavens the game only cost me a pint at the pub...
Utter BS, even Rickie has an off day occasionally. Are you going to have a go at Adam too for his miss.
Read the posts: I'm not the only one to say that Rickie's gone downhill and needs to go. Not one of Adam's best games but he's still young....and he didn't miss a goal a granny could score.
[quote][p][bold]IanRC5[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AndyAndrews[/bold] wrote: A dire performance by a deliberately weakened team who didn't seem willing to make an effort until it was too late. Lambert has managed to get an England shirt and my vote for being sold, all in the same season: that point blank miss was as pathetic as the rest of his play. Do Prado useless as usual. Wanyama not much better and at fault for the goal. The manager has always made it clear (via interpreter of course) he doesn't care about the FA Cup: well most fans do, especially when we're safe from relegation and unlikely to get in the top 5. Thank Heavens the game only cost me a pint at the pub...[/p][/quote]Utter BS, even Rickie has an off day occasionally. Are you going to have a go at Adam too for his miss.[/p][/quote]Read the posts: I'm not the only one to say that Rickie's gone downhill and needs to go. Not one of Adam's best games but he's still young....and he didn't miss a goal a granny could score. AndyAndrews

8:17am Sun 16 Feb 14

Positively4thStreet says...

03alpe01 wrote:
Saints do me a favour? Please refund match and travel tickets to all those who went up to watch that. They travelled the length of the Country to see you play like that when they could have just stayed at home and watched it on TV. You did the same when we lost 5-2 at Watford in the Cup a few years back so please do the same again. Thanks.
Probably the only game this season when the phrase "Effortless performance" had an entirely different meaning.
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Saints do me a favour? Please refund match and travel tickets to all those who went up to watch that. They travelled the length of the Country to see you play like that when they could have just stayed at home and watched it on TV. You did the same when we lost 5-2 at Watford in the Cup a few years back so please do the same again. Thanks.[/p][/quote]Probably the only game this season when the phrase "Effortless performance" had an entirely different meaning. Positively4thStreet

8:25am Sun 16 Feb 14

Stroppy_gramps says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
Pompey Forever wrote:
Ha... Ha... Ha....

Another season... another "dumping".....

You must be SO ashamed...

Ha... Ha...Ha.........
Pompey v Wimbledon, League 2 relegation battle, the winners will be a little more secure in mid-table.
Away supporters: 1999

Sunderland v Southampton, FA Cup 5th round, the winners will be one game from a Wembley semi-final, and three games away from qualifying for Europe.
Away supporters: 859

Respect to Wimbledon, a real club with real supporters!
the distance between Wimbledon and Skateville is a little different to the distance between Southampton and Sunderland you peanut.
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pompey Forever[/bold] wrote: Ha... Ha... Ha.... Another season... another "dumping"..... You must be SO ashamed... Ha... Ha...Ha.........[/p][/quote]Pompey v Wimbledon, League 2 relegation battle, the winners will be a little more secure in mid-table. Away supporters: 1999 Sunderland v Southampton, FA Cup 5th round, the winners will be one game from a Wembley semi-final, and three games away from qualifying for Europe. Away supporters: 859 Respect to Wimbledon, a real club with real supporters![/p][/quote]the distance between Wimbledon and Skateville is a little different to the distance between Southampton and Sunderland you peanut. Stroppy_gramps

1:26pm Sun 16 Feb 14

SaintsFan97 says...

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and, from reading these comments, I understand the overwhelming consensus is that we're appalled by what happened yesterday. But I think some of us are forgetting to take into account a few points:

1) Did everyone seriously believe we were going to play our first team in a cup game like this? When was the last time we took a cup game seriously? We shouldn't actually be that surprised by the team selection--I wasn't for one. Remember what happened in the league cup?
2) Saints probably wouldn't have won the cup anyway. We're not actually that good yet, in my opinion, and I think there are still too many better sides in the competition. What Wigan did last season was really an anomaly.
3) Unless we add at least 5 or 6 quality players in the summer our squad doesn't have enough depth to compete with all the extra fixtures the EL would bring. Look at what's happened to Swansea this season.
4) Pochettino took a side that was hovering in the relegation battle just one year ago, now we're a solid top 10 side on the up. Yet everyone is slating him because we lost a cup game to a team we haven't beaten in the league either this season with our strongest XI? We owe so much to him and what he's achieved, we must not forget that.
5) We had an off-day. No team ever goes through a whole season without at least 3 or 4 of those. Some people who've commented here are seriously overreacting.
6) We do still have plenty to play for. How great would it be if we finished above Man United this season? That's still a good possibility, and a realistic goal to set ourselves. Plus, we've still got plenty of players trying to claim a spot in England's World Cup squad--for me, only Lallana is a certainty at the moment. Lambert, Shaw, Clyne and Rodriguez have got to continue playing well or they will lose out. European qualification is not the only thing that matters for a team in our position.
7) Next season we will be even better because we've got so much young talent in our squad and the financial power to strengthen in the summer, two assets that most clubs can't afford (or don't choose to). I think, if everything goes well, we could realistically finish 5th next season and then all the complaining about this one loss will be forgotten.
8) Some people are reacting as if we were taking victory against Sunderland for granted. We haven't beaten them in 3 attempts this season and, given the run of form they've had recently and the fact they were at home, they would've been very confident of beating us too, probably. It's not like we were playing a League 2 side--Sunderland are a good PL outfit.
9) At the end of the day, the fans don't own the club. Just because we respect the value and tradition of the FA Cup, doesn't mean the manager has to. Though I think it would be a good gesture to refund the fans who made the trip to Sunderland.
10) It's just a game. Nothing more.

Let's dust ourselves down and concentrate on beating West Ham next Saturday. COYR
Everyone is entitled to their opinion and, from reading these comments, I understand the overwhelming consensus is that we're appalled by what happened yesterday. But I think some of us are forgetting to take into account a few points: 1) Did everyone seriously believe we were going to play our first team in a cup game like this? When was the last time we took a cup game seriously? We shouldn't actually be that surprised by the team selection--I wasn't for one. Remember what happened in the league cup? 2) Saints probably wouldn't have won the cup anyway. We're not actually that good yet, in my opinion, and I think there are still too many better sides in the competition. What Wigan did last season was really an anomaly. 3) Unless we add at least 5 or 6 quality players in the summer our squad doesn't have enough depth to compete with all the extra fixtures the EL would bring. Look at what's happened to Swansea this season. 4) Pochettino took a side that was hovering in the relegation battle just one year ago, now we're a solid top 10 side on the up. Yet everyone is slating him because we lost a cup game to a team we haven't beaten in the league either this season with our strongest XI? We owe so much to him and what he's achieved, we must not forget that. 5) We had an off-day. No team ever goes through a whole season without at least 3 or 4 of those. Some people who've commented here are seriously overreacting. 6) We do still have plenty to play for. How great would it be if we finished above Man United this season? That's still a good possibility, and a realistic goal to set ourselves. Plus, we've still got plenty of players trying to claim a spot in England's World Cup squad--for me, only Lallana is a certainty at the moment. Lambert, Shaw, Clyne and Rodriguez have got to continue playing well or they will lose out. European qualification is not the only thing that matters for a team in our position. 7) Next season we will be even better because we've got so much young talent in our squad and the financial power to strengthen in the summer, two assets that most clubs can't afford (or don't choose to). I think, if everything goes well, we could realistically finish 5th next season and then all the complaining about this one loss will be forgotten. 8) Some people are reacting as if we were taking victory against Sunderland for granted. We haven't beaten them in 3 attempts this season and, given the run of form they've had recently and the fact they were at home, they would've been very confident of beating us too, probably. It's not like we were playing a League 2 side--Sunderland are a good PL outfit. 9) At the end of the day, the fans don't own the club. Just because we respect the value and tradition of the FA Cup, doesn't mean the manager has to. Though I think it would be a good gesture to refund the fans who made the trip to Sunderland. 10) It's just a game. Nothing more. Let's dust ourselves down and concentrate on beating West Ham next Saturday. COYR SaintsFan97

3:46pm Sun 16 Feb 14

bluewhiteandred says...

GHamilton wrote:
If i was the owner of SFC, i would be incandsent at MPs team choice today. He has comletely failed to understand what is important to this club and its supporters. The 800 Saints fans that travelled to Sunderland should be given their money back. Its over 35 years since this club won a major honour....with premiership status assured for next season this was a golden opportunity to get to Wembley and maybe win this great trophy. If we dont want to play Europa League, then we put out a 2nd or 3rd string side and and exit it before the knockout stages; what we dont do is throw away our only remaining hope of winning a trophy. The FA should promote this competition far more than they are currently doing. Maybe if they were to award 10 league points to the FA cup winners, 6 points to the beaten finalists,and 3 to the loosing semi finalists....manager

s and clubs might take it more seriously as these points may get them a Champions League place, help win them the title or help them to stay up....who knows; but two many managers especialy foriegn don't seem to be interested in this trophy .....and it looks ike we' ve got one of them.
Quite correct nothing to play for but the cup even Sunderland rested players a full strength team would of won or least drawn a semi and final at Wembley not worth the effort ! your club let you SAINTS fans down .
[quote][p][bold]GHamilton[/bold] wrote: If i was the owner of SFC, i would be incandsent at MPs team choice today. He has comletely failed to understand what is important to this club and its supporters. The 800 Saints fans that travelled to Sunderland should be given their money back. Its over 35 years since this club won a major honour....with premiership status assured for next season this was a golden opportunity to get to Wembley and maybe win this great trophy. If we dont want to play Europa League, then we put out a 2nd or 3rd string side and and exit it before the knockout stages; what we dont do is throw away our only remaining hope of winning a trophy. The FA should promote this competition far more than they are currently doing. Maybe if they were to award 10 league points to the FA cup winners, 6 points to the beaten finalists,and 3 to the loosing semi finalists....manager s and clubs might take it more seriously as these points may get them a Champions League place, help win them the title or help them to stay up....who knows; but two many managers especialy foriegn don't seem to be interested in this trophy .....and it looks ike we' ve got one of them.[/p][/quote]Quite correct nothing to play for but the cup even Sunderland rested players a full strength team would of won or least drawn a semi and final at Wembley not worth the effort ! your club let you SAINTS fans down . bluewhiteandred

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