No Schneiderlin swap in any Townsend deal

Morgan Schneiderlin

Andros Townsend

First published in Sport Basingstoke Gazette: Photograph of the Author by , Chief Sports Writer

Saints will walk away from their pursuit of Andros Townsend if Tottenham insist Morgan Schneiderlin has to be part of any deal to bring the England winger to St Mary’s.

Ronald Koeman is understood to be keen to land the 23-year-old Spurs star and sees Townsend as an ideal fit as he looks to capture a winger before the close of the transfer window.

However, Tottenham have thus far pulled up the barriers on Saints’ attempts to land Townsend, as the St Mary’s club have done with Spurs’ bid for Schneiderlin.

Saints remain hopeful of signing Townsend before the end of the window, with the winger in a different situation to Schneiderlin being on the fringes of the first team squad rather than a key player.

Saints are thought to be willing to pay more than £10m for Townsend, but the Daily Echo understands the club will emphatically reject any attempt from Tottenham to turn the transfer into a swap deal involving Schneiderlin.

The club have made their position on Schneiderlin completely clear and are adamant they will not lose the French midfielder during the transfer window, even if Tottenham increase their paltry £12m offer for his services.

After initially agitating for a move, Schneiderlin has accepted Saints’ decision over his future and he started their opening game of the season against Liverpool at Anfield.

It might be that the pursuit of Townsend goes right to the end of the window, when Spurs could be more willing to do business if the offer is right from a financial point of view.

Saints’ scouting and recruitment department, overseen by Les Reed, do have other targets in mind should the Townsend situation reach an impasse and will ensure they only do any deal that is right for the club.

The Daily Echo understands that Lazio’s Alvaro Gonzalez is not one of the other possible alternatives.

The 29-year-old has been linked with a move to St Mary’s but it is believed the club hold no interest in him whatsoever, and he has never been on any potential list of transfer targets.

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6:18am Thu 21 Aug 14

B himself says...

Southampton probably ned to offer 16-17 M to get Townsend.
Southampton probably ned to offer 16-17 M to get Townsend. B himself
  • Score: -49

6:35am Thu 21 Aug 14

InCortesewetrust says...

B himself wrote:
Southampton probably ned to offer 16-17 M to get Townsend.
Don't bother then,
[quote][p][bold]B himself[/bold] wrote: Southampton probably ned to offer 16-17 M to get Townsend.[/p][/quote]Don't bother then, InCortesewetrust
  • Score: 79

6:44am Thu 21 Aug 14

InsideOutCat says...

B himself wrote:
Southampton probably ned to offer 16-17 M to get Townsend.
So we need to offer £17m for a Spuds fringe player requiring a lot of work on our part to turn him into the finished article, but the aforementioned North London chancers think they can land Schneiderlin for £12m. If I were MS I'd have the right hump that my supposed mate Mercenario Pochettino thought I was worth so little.
[quote][p][bold]B himself[/bold] wrote: Southampton probably ned to offer 16-17 M to get Townsend.[/p][/quote]So we need to offer £17m for a Spuds fringe player requiring a lot of work on our part to turn him into the finished article, but the aforementioned North London chancers think they can land Schneiderlin for £12m. If I were MS I'd have the right hump that my supposed mate Mercenario Pochettino thought I was worth so little. InsideOutCat
  • Score: 75

6:55am Thu 21 Aug 14

boobooj says...

'The 29-year-old has been linked with a move to St Mary’s but it is believed the club hold no interest in him whatsoever, and he has never been on any potential list of transfer targets.'

So you just made it all up then.
'The 29-year-old has been linked with a move to St Mary’s but it is believed the club hold no interest in him whatsoever, and he has never been on any potential list of transfer targets.' So you just made it all up then. boobooj
  • Score: 35

7:00am Thu 21 Aug 14

promised land says...

The fact is spurs are looking to offload Townsend and Saints have made it clear they want to keep Schneiderlin. It appears spurs have thrown their toys out of the pram and are acting like a bunch of amateurs when it comes to business.
The fact is spurs are looking to offload Townsend and Saints have made it clear they want to keep Schneiderlin. It appears spurs have thrown their toys out of the pram and are acting like a bunch of amateurs when it comes to business. promised land
  • Score: 39

7:05am Thu 21 Aug 14

Saint Clements says...

InsideOutCat wrote:
B himself wrote:
Southampton probably ned to offer 16-17 M to get Townsend.
So we need to offer £17m for a Spuds fringe player requiring a lot of work on our part to turn him into the finished article, but the aforementioned North London chancers think they can land Schneiderlin for £12m. If I were MS I'd have the right hump that my supposed mate Mercenario Pochettino thought I was worth so little.
Lots of guesses in here. Why do we think Townsend would cost that much money? Who's ever come up with such a figure?

If that's the game then I'll just make up a figure - say, £12m - and we can argue over that...
[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]B himself[/bold] wrote: Southampton probably ned to offer 16-17 M to get Townsend.[/p][/quote]So we need to offer £17m for a Spuds fringe player requiring a lot of work on our part to turn him into the finished article, but the aforementioned North London chancers think they can land Schneiderlin for £12m. If I were MS I'd have the right hump that my supposed mate Mercenario Pochettino thought I was worth so little.[/p][/quote]Lots of guesses in here. Why do we think Townsend would cost that much money? Who's ever come up with such a figure? If that's the game then I'll just make up a figure - say, £12m - and we can argue over that... Saint Clements
  • Score: 8

7:05am Thu 21 Aug 14

Saint Clements says...

InsideOutCat wrote:
B himself wrote:
Southampton probably ned to offer 16-17 M to get Townsend.
So we need to offer £17m for a Spuds fringe player requiring a lot of work on our part to turn him into the finished article, but the aforementioned North London chancers think they can land Schneiderlin for £12m. If I were MS I'd have the right hump that my supposed mate Mercenario Pochettino thought I was worth so little.
Lots of guesses in here. Why do we think Townsend would cost that much money? Who's ever come up with such a figure?

If that's the game then I'll just make up a figure - say, £12m - and we can argue over that...
[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]B himself[/bold] wrote: Southampton probably ned to offer 16-17 M to get Townsend.[/p][/quote]So we need to offer £17m for a Spuds fringe player requiring a lot of work on our part to turn him into the finished article, but the aforementioned North London chancers think they can land Schneiderlin for £12m. If I were MS I'd have the right hump that my supposed mate Mercenario Pochettino thought I was worth so little.[/p][/quote]Lots of guesses in here. Why do we think Townsend would cost that much money? Who's ever come up with such a figure? If that's the game then I'll just make up a figure - say, £12m - and we can argue over that... Saint Clements
  • Score: -3

7:07am Thu 21 Aug 14

spratt says...

B himself wrote:
Southampton probably ned to offer 16-17 M to get Townsend.
Pay it then. Provided Ron considers he is worth it. In HIM we trust.
[quote][p][bold]B himself[/bold] wrote: Southampton probably ned to offer 16-17 M to get Townsend.[/p][/quote]Pay it then. Provided Ron considers he is worth it. In HIM we trust. spratt
  • Score: -25

7:07am Thu 21 Aug 14

Malcombe says...

IMO it's been proven that Levy and The Deceitful Liar cannot be trusted so it would be better if Southampton avoided doing any business with Spurs, only yesterday The Deceitful Liar embraced the Europa League yet when he was with Southampton he said it was meaningless to Play in the Competition just more of his true colours nailed to the Mast. Townsend appears to be a good Player but what would be interesting is how Spurs Supporters are reacting to the rumour that Townsend could leave Spurs like we did to our 7 Players, surely the Southampton Scouts have other Wingers on there list equal to Townsend.
Because of the mistrust my thoughts are that it's a devious move by Spurs to offer Southampton Townsend if that is the carrot they are dangling, they could be saying you can have him but we want the prize and that is Morgan, could it fit the saying Oh what a tangled web we weave etc?I could be barking up the wrong tree but I would love to know in the mean time COYR
IMO it's been proven that Levy and The Deceitful Liar cannot be trusted so it would be better if Southampton avoided doing any business with Spurs, only yesterday The Deceitful Liar embraced the Europa League yet when he was with Southampton he said it was meaningless to Play in the Competition just more of his true colours nailed to the Mast. Townsend appears to be a good Player but what would be interesting is how Spurs Supporters are reacting to the rumour that Townsend could leave Spurs like we did to our 7 Players, surely the Southampton Scouts have other Wingers on there list equal to Townsend. Because of the mistrust my thoughts are that it's a devious move by Spurs to offer Southampton Townsend if that is the carrot they are dangling, they could be saying you can have him but we want the prize and that is Morgan, could it fit the saying Oh what a tangled web we weave etc?I could be barking up the wrong tree but I would love to know in the mean time COYR Malcombe
  • Score: 20

7:13am Thu 21 Aug 14

Dubai-saints89 says...

cheeky bugger those spurs lot.
i also thought the Gonzalez Deal was likely but Echo have now confirmed there was never any interest in the player, to be honest i did read it of twitter, lots of cr@p gets spread about on that site. suppose nothing is official unless its on the Official SFC site.
cheeky bugger those spurs lot. i also thought the Gonzalez Deal was likely but Echo have now confirmed there was never any interest in the player, to be honest i did read it of twitter, lots of cr@p gets spread about on that site. suppose nothing is official unless its on the Official SFC site. Dubai-saints89
  • Score: 18

7:24am Thu 21 Aug 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Don't want to sell but every player has a price so tell Spurs that they would have to offer in excess of £30m for Morgan and confirm an offer of £10m for Townsend as I think that would be about the right deal for Saints.

However while a pacy winger is needed it is a top CB & a Goalscorer that are the priorities.

Last season a better CB to partner Lovren was the requirement, but having sold him and the option of using Chambers (biggest mistake) means that we need TWO CB's better than we had left.
Hopefully Gardos will prove to be as good as Lovren; Fonte needs to be one of the main three; Hoover is not an option and can be released; Yoshida is suspect & should be 4th choice; that only leaves young Stephens in the CB department to cover for injuries and suspensions.
Some of the targets are still available like Wollscheid, vanDijk, Vlaar etc

Goals win games and our problem has been and still is, converting the chances we create, having watched us against Bayer & Liverpool.
This could also be the 'signature' signing that would ignite the team. A proven goalscorer is needed like Bony, Benteke, E'to (who is a free agent for a season), or another loanee from somewhere would avoid spending
until proven.

Gonzalez would add experience to the right MF and would be good cover for Cline at RB.

I think that we are looking near to last season's level so we are back to what we were all saying before the season ended that we still need 3 or 4 top quality players to take us up a level. Especially as the squad looks short in quality cover in some positions.

I hope to see these 3 or 4 come in before the window closes, then we will be a BETTER team than last season and surprise everyone, so go and get them Les !

COYR&WS
Don't want to sell but every player has a price so tell Spurs that they would have to offer in excess of £30m for Morgan and confirm an offer of £10m for Townsend as I think that would be about the right deal for Saints. However while a pacy winger is needed it is a top CB & a Goalscorer that are the priorities. Last season a better CB to partner Lovren was the requirement, but having sold him and the option of using Chambers (biggest mistake) means that we need TWO CB's better than we had left. Hopefully Gardos will prove to be as good as Lovren; Fonte needs to be one of the main three; Hoover is not an option and can be released; Yoshida is suspect & should be 4th choice; that only leaves young Stephens in the CB department to cover for injuries and suspensions. Some of the targets are still available like Wollscheid, vanDijk, Vlaar etc Goals win games and our problem has been and still is, converting the chances we create, having watched us against Bayer & Liverpool. This could also be the 'signature' signing that would ignite the team. A proven goalscorer is needed like Bony, Benteke, E'to (who is a free agent for a season), or another loanee from somewhere would avoid spending until proven. Gonzalez would add experience to the right MF and would be good cover for Cline at RB. I think that we are looking near to last season's level so we are back to what we were all saying before the season ended that we still need 3 or 4 top quality players to take us up a level. Especially as the squad looks short in quality cover in some positions. I hope to see these 3 or 4 come in before the window closes, then we will be a BETTER team than last season and surprise everyone, so go and get them Les ! COYR&WS NC Fan4Life
  • Score: -13

7:27am Thu 21 Aug 14

Chipmonk1 says...

Reading between the lines there does seem to be a conduit of information between club and echo again finally. Personally I can't wait for the finish of the transfer window and if it means no more outs I would take no more ins. Honestly I don't think my nerves can last much longer. It would be nice to go back to arguing on this site over who should be in the first 11 and who did or did not have a mare last game.
Reading between the lines there does seem to be a conduit of information between club and echo again finally. Personally I can't wait for the finish of the transfer window and if it means no more outs I would take no more ins. Honestly I don't think my nerves can last much longer. It would be nice to go back to arguing on this site over who should be in the first 11 and who did or did not have a mare last game. Chipmonk1
  • Score: 19

7:49am Thu 21 Aug 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

If Lallana is worth £25m, he's easily worth £15m.

Get him in! We can't do any better, let's be honest
If Lallana is worth £25m, he's easily worth £15m. Get him in! We can't do any better, let's be honest SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: -23

7:55am Thu 21 Aug 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
Don't want to sell but every player has a price so tell Spurs that they would have to offer in excess of £30m for Morgan and confirm an offer of £10m for Townsend as I think that would be about the right deal for Saints.

However while a pacy winger is needed it is a top CB & a Goalscorer that are the priorities.

Last season a better CB to partner Lovren was the requirement, but having sold him and the option of using Chambers (biggest mistake) means that we need TWO CB's better than we had left.
Hopefully Gardos will prove to be as good as Lovren; Fonte needs to be one of the main three; Hoover is not an option and can be released; Yoshida is suspect & should be 4th choice; that only leaves young Stephens in the CB department to cover for injuries and suspensions.
Some of the targets are still available like Wollscheid, vanDijk, Vlaar etc

Goals win games and our problem has been and still is, converting the chances we create, having watched us against Bayer & Liverpool.
This could also be the 'signature' signing that would ignite the team. A proven goalscorer is needed like Bony, Benteke, E'to (who is a free agent for a season), or another loanee from somewhere would avoid spending
until proven.

Gonzalez would add experience to the right MF and would be good cover for Cline at RB.

I think that we are looking near to last season's level so we are back to what we were all saying before the season ended that we still need 3 or 4 top quality players to take us up a level. Especially as the squad looks short in quality cover in some positions.

I hope to see these 3 or 4 come in before the window closes, then we will be a BETTER team than last season and surprise everyone, so go and get them Les !

COYR&WS
An edited copy and paste from a day or two ago??

No one wants Eto'o. And Saints have no interest in Gonzalez...

You should edit that part out before you copy and paste it to tomorrow's articles.
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Don't want to sell but every player has a price so tell Spurs that they would have to offer in excess of £30m for Morgan and confirm an offer of £10m for Townsend as I think that would be about the right deal for Saints. However while a pacy winger is needed it is a top CB & a Goalscorer that are the priorities. Last season a better CB to partner Lovren was the requirement, but having sold him and the option of using Chambers (biggest mistake) means that we need TWO CB's better than we had left. Hopefully Gardos will prove to be as good as Lovren; Fonte needs to be one of the main three; Hoover is not an option and can be released; Yoshida is suspect & should be 4th choice; that only leaves young Stephens in the CB department to cover for injuries and suspensions. Some of the targets are still available like Wollscheid, vanDijk, Vlaar etc Goals win games and our problem has been and still is, converting the chances we create, having watched us against Bayer & Liverpool. This could also be the 'signature' signing that would ignite the team. A proven goalscorer is needed like Bony, Benteke, E'to (who is a free agent for a season), or another loanee from somewhere would avoid spending until proven. Gonzalez would add experience to the right MF and would be good cover for Cline at RB. I think that we are looking near to last season's level so we are back to what we were all saying before the season ended that we still need 3 or 4 top quality players to take us up a level. Especially as the squad looks short in quality cover in some positions. I hope to see these 3 or 4 come in before the window closes, then we will be a BETTER team than last season and surprise everyone, so go and get them Les ! COYR&WS[/p][/quote]An edited copy and paste from a day or two ago?? No one wants Eto'o. And Saints have no interest in Gonzalez... You should edit that part out before you copy and paste it to tomorrow's articles. SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: 27

7:59am Thu 21 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

As long as Spider stays unless they pay silly money £25 million plus ........

No swap deal , I think we are back like most of the Summer into a bit of a dark hole where SFC have identified who they want and negs are going on in the quiet ........... The press then scurry around hoping to find out, link enough targets to us and in the end you get one right ??
As long as Spider stays unless they pay silly money £25 million plus ........ No swap deal , I think we are back like most of the Summer into a bit of a dark hole where SFC have identified who they want and negs are going on in the quiet ........... The press then scurry around hoping to find out, link enough targets to us and in the end you get one right ?? Buddy SFC
  • Score: 10

8:07am Thu 21 Aug 14

saint christopher says...

Chipmonk1 wrote:
Reading between the lines there does seem to be a conduit of information between club and echo again finally. Personally I can't wait for the finish of the transfer window and if it means no more outs I would take no more ins. Honestly I don't think my nerves can last much longer. It would be nice to go back to arguing on this site over who should be in the first 11 and who did or did not have a mare last game.
Currently think we're on a par or even a tad above our playing level of last year - so assuming others have strengthened that gives us a realistic hope of around 10th, which would be excellent given the recent turmoil.

Which makes the end of this transfer window pretty vital if we're to realistically push higher, especially when it comes to converting the many chances this team will create. Unfortunately proven goalscorers don't come cheap, especially at the end of transfer windows, and I have a feeling that Shane Long is the nearest we're going to get to a "marque" signing in that area.

This means that our current forward players (and Jay once he's back) have really got to sharpen up pronto. I don't think I can put up with another season of "played them off the park, should have won by 3 or 4, but had to settle for the draw" ... or nowt.
[quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: Reading between the lines there does seem to be a conduit of information between club and echo again finally. Personally I can't wait for the finish of the transfer window and if it means no more outs I would take no more ins. Honestly I don't think my nerves can last much longer. It would be nice to go back to arguing on this site over who should be in the first 11 and who did or did not have a mare last game.[/p][/quote]Currently think we're on a par or even a tad above our playing level of last year - so assuming others have strengthened that gives us a realistic hope of around 10th, which would be excellent given the recent turmoil. Which makes the end of this transfer window pretty vital if we're to realistically push higher, especially when it comes to converting the many chances this team will create. Unfortunately proven goalscorers don't come cheap, especially at the end of transfer windows, and I have a feeling that Shane Long is the nearest we're going to get to a "marque" signing in that area. This means that our current forward players (and Jay once he's back) have really got to sharpen up pronto. I don't think I can put up with another season of "played them off the park, should have won by 3 or 4, but had to settle for the draw" ... or nowt. saint christopher
  • Score: 11

8:09am Thu 21 Aug 14

alanrr says...

i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly
i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly alanrr
  • Score: 32

8:11am Thu 21 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

For those that haven't seen this , go onto the Mirror Football - Saints and read................


Finally some of the press waking up to SFC and English football, especially if LaLa and Luke become bench warmers ..................

http://www.mirror.co
.uk/sport/football/n
ews/england-must-fol
low-southampton-purs
uit-4080583
For those that haven't seen this , go onto the Mirror Football - Saints and read................ Finally some of the press waking up to SFC and English football, especially if LaLa and Luke become bench warmers .................. http://www.mirror.co .uk/sport/football/n ews/england-must-fol low-southampton-purs uit-4080583 Buddy SFC
  • Score: 16

8:11am Thu 21 Aug 14

warrens 76 says...

I still do not understand our 30 scouts identifying targets all over Europe and here we are down to the wire negotiating for a sicknote like Townsend?
I still do not understand our 30 scouts identifying targets all over Europe and here we are down to the wire negotiating for a sicknote like Townsend? warrens 76
  • Score: 24

8:14am Thu 21 Aug 14

jls217 says...

InCortesewetrust wrote:
B himself wrote:
Southampton probably ned to offer 16-17 M to get Townsend.
Don't bother then,
Football = opinions and IMHO he's not wort 6-7 mill to us let alone adding the extra 10m here and there.
He's quick, explosive, can get to the byline and knows which direction he's playing in but he spends far too much time injured.

Maybe he's just not robust enough to hack a full season.

He's good but there are better options for Saints as we cannot afford passengers at any price.
[quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]B himself[/bold] wrote: Southampton probably ned to offer 16-17 M to get Townsend.[/p][/quote]Don't bother then,[/p][/quote]Football = opinions and IMHO he's not wort 6-7 mill to us let alone adding the extra 10m here and there. He's quick, explosive, can get to the byline and knows which direction he's playing in but he spends far too much time injured. Maybe he's just not robust enough to hack a full season. He's good but there are better options for Saints as we cannot afford passengers at any price. jls217
  • Score: 14

8:16am Thu 21 Aug 14

jls217 says...

boobooj wrote:
'The 29-year-old has been linked with a move to St Mary’s but it is believed the club hold no interest in him whatsoever, and he has never been on any potential list of transfer targets.'

So you just made it all up then.
Made me chuckle - but I forgot we are not allowed humour of any sort on this forum in case we get reported to the Guardian or something.
[quote][p][bold]boobooj[/bold] wrote: 'The 29-year-old has been linked with a move to St Mary’s but it is believed the club hold no interest in him whatsoever, and he has never been on any potential list of transfer targets.' So you just made it all up then.[/p][/quote]Made me chuckle - but I forgot we are not allowed humour of any sort on this forum in case we get reported to the Guardian or something. jls217
  • Score: 7

8:17am Thu 21 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Saint Clements wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
B himself wrote:
Southampton probably ned to offer 16-17 M to get Townsend.
So we need to offer £17m for a Spuds fringe player requiring a lot of work on our part to turn him into the finished article, but the aforementioned North London chancers think they can land Schneiderlin for £12m. If I were MS I'd have the right hump that my supposed mate Mercenario Pochettino thought I was worth so little.
Lots of guesses in here. Why do we think Townsend would cost that much money? Who's ever come up with such a figure?

If that's the game then I'll just make up a figure - say, £12m - and we can argue over that...
I wouldn't have him on a free - I wouldn't want to have a player who spend more time with the physio than with his coaches end of story.
[quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]B himself[/bold] wrote: Southampton probably ned to offer 16-17 M to get Townsend.[/p][/quote]So we need to offer £17m for a Spuds fringe player requiring a lot of work on our part to turn him into the finished article, but the aforementioned North London chancers think they can land Schneiderlin for £12m. If I were MS I'd have the right hump that my supposed mate Mercenario Pochettino thought I was worth so little.[/p][/quote]Lots of guesses in here. Why do we think Townsend would cost that much money? Who's ever come up with such a figure? If that's the game then I'll just make up a figure - say, £12m - and we can argue over that...[/p][/quote]I wouldn't have him on a free - I wouldn't want to have a player who spend more time with the physio than with his coaches end of story. jls217
  • Score: 5

8:21am Thu 21 Aug 14

Sainty saint saint says...

To me this article says two positive things:

1. Lines of communication are slowly reopening between the club and the Echo (hooray for potentially no more unnecessarily negative articles!)

2. Our refusal to do business with Spurs over Spiderman hints that maybe, just maybe, the rumours about KL and her annoyance at MP's behaviour are true.
To me this article says two positive things: 1. Lines of communication are slowly reopening between the club and the Echo (hooray for potentially no more unnecessarily negative articles!) 2. Our refusal to do business with Spurs over Spiderman hints that maybe, just maybe, the rumours about KL and her annoyance at MP's behaviour are true. Sainty saint saint
  • Score: 23

8:25am Thu 21 Aug 14

jls217 says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
Don't want to sell but every player has a price so tell Spurs that they would have to offer in excess of £30m for Morgan and confirm an offer of £10m for Townsend as I think that would be about the right deal for Saints.

However while a pacy winger is needed it is a top CB & a Goalscorer that are the priorities.

Last season a better CB to partner Lovren was the requirement, but having sold him and the option of using Chambers (biggest mistake) means that we need TWO CB's better than we had left.
Hopefully Gardos will prove to be as good as Lovren; Fonte needs to be one of the main three; Hoover is not an option and can be released; Yoshida is suspect & should be 4th choice; that only leaves young Stephens in the CB department to cover for injuries and suspensions.
Some of the targets are still available like Wollscheid, vanDijk, Vlaar etc

Goals win games and our problem has been and still is, converting the chances we create, having watched us against Bayer & Liverpool.
This could also be the 'signature' signing that would ignite the team. A proven goalscorer is needed like Bony, Benteke, E'to (who is a free agent for a season), or another loanee from somewhere would avoid spending
until proven.

Gonzalez would add experience to the right MF and would be good cover for Cline at RB.

I think that we are looking near to last season's level so we are back to what we were all saying before the season ended that we still need 3 or 4 top quality players to take us up a level. Especially as the squad looks short in quality cover in some positions.

I hope to see these 3 or 4 come in before the window closes, then we will be a BETTER team than last season and surprise everyone, so go and get them Les !

COYR&WS
I'm with you on the CB but Rambros say they don't need to have another CB to boost us so who are we to argue with them. Smalling and Richards are rumoured to be available for the right offer. I know we have seen them go down the rankings over the last season and neither is without injury problems but both are CB's + RB''s, both have a lot of experience and are still fairly young, both need to re-build their egos and confidence (not to mention the huge reputations they seemed to once have)

Eto would look very fetching in red,white and black wouldn't he?

Have we lost interest in Redmond? Bloody annoying because we could've had a player of the standard of Hunt for nowt if we'd had a manager in situ - he went to Wolfsburg instead. Oh well, water under the bridge now.
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Don't want to sell but every player has a price so tell Spurs that they would have to offer in excess of £30m for Morgan and confirm an offer of £10m for Townsend as I think that would be about the right deal for Saints. However while a pacy winger is needed it is a top CB & a Goalscorer that are the priorities. Last season a better CB to partner Lovren was the requirement, but having sold him and the option of using Chambers (biggest mistake) means that we need TWO CB's better than we had left. Hopefully Gardos will prove to be as good as Lovren; Fonte needs to be one of the main three; Hoover is not an option and can be released; Yoshida is suspect & should be 4th choice; that only leaves young Stephens in the CB department to cover for injuries and suspensions. Some of the targets are still available like Wollscheid, vanDijk, Vlaar etc Goals win games and our problem has been and still is, converting the chances we create, having watched us against Bayer & Liverpool. This could also be the 'signature' signing that would ignite the team. A proven goalscorer is needed like Bony, Benteke, E'to (who is a free agent for a season), or another loanee from somewhere would avoid spending until proven. Gonzalez would add experience to the right MF and would be good cover for Cline at RB. I think that we are looking near to last season's level so we are back to what we were all saying before the season ended that we still need 3 or 4 top quality players to take us up a level. Especially as the squad looks short in quality cover in some positions. I hope to see these 3 or 4 come in before the window closes, then we will be a BETTER team than last season and surprise everyone, so go and get them Les ! COYR&WS[/p][/quote]I'm with you on the CB but Rambros say they don't need to have another CB to boost us so who are we to argue with them. Smalling and Richards are rumoured to be available for the right offer. I know we have seen them go down the rankings over the last season and neither is without injury problems but both are CB's + RB''s, both have a lot of experience and are still fairly young, both need to re-build their egos and confidence (not to mention the huge reputations they seemed to once have) Eto would look very fetching in red,white and black wouldn't he? Have we lost interest in Redmond? Bloody annoying because we could've had a player of the standard of Hunt for nowt if we'd had a manager in situ - he went to Wolfsburg instead. Oh well, water under the bridge now. jls217
  • Score: 2

8:26am Thu 21 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

alanrr wrote:
i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly
You're not alone in your evaluation of Yoshida.
[quote][p][bold]alanrr[/bold] wrote: i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly[/p][/quote]You're not alone in your evaluation of Yoshida. Rising_Son
  • Score: 21

8:31am Thu 21 Aug 14

Carthage says...

Malcombe wrote:
IMO it's been proven that Levy and The Deceitful Liar cannot be trusted so it would be better if Southampton avoided doing any business with Spurs, only yesterday The Deceitful Liar embraced the Europa League yet when he was with Southampton he said it was meaningless to Play in the Competition just more of his true colours nailed to the Mast. Townsend appears to be a good Player but what would be interesting is how Spurs Supporters are reacting to the rumour that Townsend could leave Spurs like we did to our 7 Players, surely the Southampton Scouts have other Wingers on there list equal to Townsend.
Because of the mistrust my thoughts are that it's a devious move by Spurs to offer Southampton Townsend if that is the carrot they are dangling, they could be saying you can have him but we want the prize and that is Morgan, could it fit the saying Oh what a tangled web we weave etc?I could be barking up the wrong tree but I would love to know in the mean time COYR
It was pretty meaningless when he made that quote, it's not now when it guarantees you Champions League for next season is it?
[quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: IMO it's been proven that Levy and The Deceitful Liar cannot be trusted so it would be better if Southampton avoided doing any business with Spurs, only yesterday The Deceitful Liar embraced the Europa League yet when he was with Southampton he said it was meaningless to Play in the Competition just more of his true colours nailed to the Mast. Townsend appears to be a good Player but what would be interesting is how Spurs Supporters are reacting to the rumour that Townsend could leave Spurs like we did to our 7 Players, surely the Southampton Scouts have other Wingers on there list equal to Townsend. Because of the mistrust my thoughts are that it's a devious move by Spurs to offer Southampton Townsend if that is the carrot they are dangling, they could be saying you can have him but we want the prize and that is Morgan, could it fit the saying Oh what a tangled web we weave etc?I could be barking up the wrong tree but I would love to know in the mean time COYR[/p][/quote]It was pretty meaningless when he made that quote, it's not now when it guarantees you Champions League for next season is it? Carthage
  • Score: -4

8:32am Thu 21 Aug 14

jls217 says...

alanrr wrote:
i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly
Nothing wrong with Yoshida IMHO mate, he's no John Terry but even John Terry ain't John Terry anymore (I'm getting confused)

There are better CB's out there but are they willing to come to us? I reckon Yoshida will do okay this season and is still young enough to improve unlike John Terry who aint John Terry any longer (now called Marsha and works the bus station at Pompey Hard when the fleet comes in - alledgedly)

Saints fans always seem to need a whipping boy though and only rarely does the poor bugger chosen deserve that reputation.
[quote][p][bold]alanrr[/bold] wrote: i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly[/p][/quote]Nothing wrong with Yoshida IMHO mate, he's no John Terry but even John Terry ain't John Terry anymore (I'm getting confused) There are better CB's out there but are they willing to come to us? I reckon Yoshida will do okay this season and is still young enough to improve unlike John Terry who aint John Terry any longer (now called Marsha and works the bus station at Pompey Hard when the fleet comes in - alledgedly) Saints fans always seem to need a whipping boy though and only rarely does the poor bugger chosen deserve that reputation. jls217
  • Score: 17

8:33am Thu 21 Aug 14

jls217 says...

warrens 76 wrote:
I still do not understand our 30 scouts identifying targets all over Europe and here we are down to the wire negotiating for a sicknote like Townsend?
Good point.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: I still do not understand our 30 scouts identifying targets all over Europe and here we are down to the wire negotiating for a sicknote like Townsend?[/p][/quote]Good point. jls217
  • Score: 8

8:34am Thu 21 Aug 14

Chipmonk1 says...

saint christopher wrote:
Chipmonk1 wrote:
Reading between the lines there does seem to be a conduit of information between club and echo again finally. Personally I can't wait for the finish of the transfer window and if it means no more outs I would take no more ins. Honestly I don't think my nerves can last much longer. It would be nice to go back to arguing on this site over who should be in the first 11 and who did or did not have a mare last game.
Currently think we're on a par or even a tad above our playing level of last year - so assuming others have strengthened that gives us a realistic hope of around 10th, which would be excellent given the recent turmoil.

Which makes the end of this transfer window pretty vital if we're to realistically push higher, especially when it comes to converting the many chances this team will create. Unfortunately proven goalscorers don't come cheap, especially at the end of transfer windows, and I have a feeling that Shane Long is the nearest we're going to get to a "marque" signing in that area.

This means that our current forward players (and Jay once he's back) have really got to sharpen up pronto. I don't think I can put up with another season of "played them off the park, should have won by 3 or 4, but had to settle for the draw" ... or nowt.
I'm with you there. As pretty as our play may have been last year there seemed to be the aim of walking it in into the net. JWP was guilty of it last game and it was the only blip on an otherwise flawless performance from him. This is the point. We have brought in players of similar standard to what we lost. But, we have players like JWP who are now at a higher standard. Getting the mix right between promoting from within and cherry picking from without us our success. Finally in the plus column I think we did lose a great manager in MoPo but gained quite possibly a better and definitely more commited one.
[quote][p][bold]saint christopher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: Reading between the lines there does seem to be a conduit of information between club and echo again finally. Personally I can't wait for the finish of the transfer window and if it means no more outs I would take no more ins. Honestly I don't think my nerves can last much longer. It would be nice to go back to arguing on this site over who should be in the first 11 and who did or did not have a mare last game.[/p][/quote]Currently think we're on a par or even a tad above our playing level of last year - so assuming others have strengthened that gives us a realistic hope of around 10th, which would be excellent given the recent turmoil. Which makes the end of this transfer window pretty vital if we're to realistically push higher, especially when it comes to converting the many chances this team will create. Unfortunately proven goalscorers don't come cheap, especially at the end of transfer windows, and I have a feeling that Shane Long is the nearest we're going to get to a "marque" signing in that area. This means that our current forward players (and Jay once he's back) have really got to sharpen up pronto. I don't think I can put up with another season of "played them off the park, should have won by 3 or 4, but had to settle for the draw" ... or nowt.[/p][/quote]I'm with you there. As pretty as our play may have been last year there seemed to be the aim of walking it in into the net. JWP was guilty of it last game and it was the only blip on an otherwise flawless performance from him. This is the point. We have brought in players of similar standard to what we lost. But, we have players like JWP who are now at a higher standard. Getting the mix right between promoting from within and cherry picking from without us our success. Finally in the plus column I think we did lose a great manager in MoPo but gained quite possibly a better and definitely more commited one. Chipmonk1
  • Score: 13

8:51am Thu 21 Aug 14

chapellady says...

Buddy SFC wrote:
For those that haven't seen this , go onto the Mirror Football - Saints and read................



Finally some of the press waking up to SFC and English football, especially if LaLa and Luke become bench warmers ..................

http://www.mirror.co

.uk/sport/football/n

ews/england-must-fol

low-southampton-purs

uit-4080583
The Mirror have been digging the knife in over the last few weeks but this article is refreshing to say the least. And for the LR knockers he is showing how things should be done which is now starting to be recognised.
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: For those that haven't seen this , go onto the Mirror Football - Saints and read................ Finally some of the press waking up to SFC and English football, especially if LaLa and Luke become bench warmers .................. http://www.mirror.co .uk/sport/football/n ews/england-must-fol low-southampton-purs uit-4080583[/p][/quote]The Mirror have been digging the knife in over the last few weeks but this article is refreshing to say the least. And for the LR knockers he is showing how things should be done which is now starting to be recognised. chapellady
  • Score: 9

8:54am Thu 21 Aug 14

Chipmonk1 says...

jls217 wrote:
alanrr wrote:
i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly
Nothing wrong with Yoshida IMHO mate, he's no John Terry but even John Terry ain't John Terry anymore (I'm getting confused)

There are better CB's out there but are they willing to come to us? I reckon Yoshida will do okay this season and is still young enough to improve unlike John Terry who aint John Terry any longer (now called Marsha and works the bus station at Pompey Hard when the fleet comes in - alledgedly)

Saints fans always seem to need a whipping boy though and only rarely does the poor bugger chosen deserve that reputation.
Agreed. I thought after some early jitters Yosh had a strong game and made some telling tackles. He certainly was not to blame for either goal.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alanrr[/bold] wrote: i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly[/p][/quote]Nothing wrong with Yoshida IMHO mate, he's no John Terry but even John Terry ain't John Terry anymore (I'm getting confused) There are better CB's out there but are they willing to come to us? I reckon Yoshida will do okay this season and is still young enough to improve unlike John Terry who aint John Terry any longer (now called Marsha and works the bus station at Pompey Hard when the fleet comes in - alledgedly) Saints fans always seem to need a whipping boy though and only rarely does the poor bugger chosen deserve that reputation.[/p][/quote]Agreed. I thought after some early jitters Yosh had a strong game and made some telling tackles. He certainly was not to blame for either goal. Chipmonk1
  • Score: 19

8:55am Thu 21 Aug 14

Folkestone Saint says...

The spuds have done alright from us over the years, but taking this stance over Townsend could spell disaster for them in the comming years, they seem to think it is a one-way street when it comes to transfers TO them and not from them, also when Spider sees where we are in the league next transfer window I hope it is high enough for him to say "O.K. Ronko I'm staying as spurs are out of europe and they are 6th from the bottom of the league"
The spuds have done alright from us over the years, but taking this stance over Townsend could spell disaster for them in the comming years, they seem to think it is a one-way street when it comes to transfers TO them and not from them, also when Spider sees where we are in the league next transfer window I hope it is high enough for him to say "O.K. Ronko I'm staying as spurs are out of europe and they are 6th from the bottom of the league" Folkestone Saint
  • Score: 10

9:03am Thu 21 Aug 14

THE12THMAN says...

Is Townsend worth the money being mentioned? I don't think so, I personally don't think we should do any business with the spuds, Scott Sinclair has got to be better value for money than Townsend and he scores goals.
Is Townsend worth the money being mentioned? I don't think so, I personally don't think we should do any business with the spuds, Scott Sinclair has got to be better value for money than Townsend and he scores goals. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 5

9:09am Thu 21 Aug 14

Clever Dick says...

Rising_Son wrote:
alanrr wrote:
i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly
You're not alone in your evaluation of Yoshida.
Count me in on that too. Has the potential to be a very good CB.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alanrr[/bold] wrote: i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly[/p][/quote]You're not alone in your evaluation of Yoshida.[/p][/quote]Count me in on that too. Has the potential to be a very good CB. Clever Dick
  • Score: 12

9:12am Thu 21 Aug 14

Saint Dennis says...

Chipmonk1 wrote:
jls217 wrote:
alanrr wrote:
i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly
Nothing wrong with Yoshida IMHO mate, he's no John Terry but even John Terry ain't John Terry anymore (I'm getting confused)

There are better CB's out there but are they willing to come to us? I reckon Yoshida will do okay this season and is still young enough to improve unlike John Terry who aint John Terry any longer (now called Marsha and works the bus station at Pompey Hard when the fleet comes in - alledgedly)

Saints fans always seem to need a whipping boy though and only rarely does the poor bugger chosen deserve that reputation.
Agreed. I thought after some early jitters Yosh had a strong game and made some telling tackles. He certainly was not to blame for either goal.
Agreed. Good player. I just don't get the negativity towards him. And it would help if he felt he was believed in by the Manager. He was another outside the MP clique.
[quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alanrr[/bold] wrote: i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly[/p][/quote]Nothing wrong with Yoshida IMHO mate, he's no John Terry but even John Terry ain't John Terry anymore (I'm getting confused) There are better CB's out there but are they willing to come to us? I reckon Yoshida will do okay this season and is still young enough to improve unlike John Terry who aint John Terry any longer (now called Marsha and works the bus station at Pompey Hard when the fleet comes in - alledgedly) Saints fans always seem to need a whipping boy though and only rarely does the poor bugger chosen deserve that reputation.[/p][/quote]Agreed. I thought after some early jitters Yosh had a strong game and made some telling tackles. He certainly was not to blame for either goal.[/p][/quote]Agreed. Good player. I just don't get the negativity towards him. And it would help if he felt he was believed in by the Manager. He was another outside the MP clique. Saint Dennis
  • Score: 11

9:15am Thu 21 Aug 14

TGodSFC says...

Chipmonk1 wrote:
jls217 wrote:
alanrr wrote:
i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly
Nothing wrong with Yoshida IMHO mate, he's no John Terry but even John Terry ain't John Terry anymore (I'm getting confused)

There are better CB's out there but are they willing to come to us? I reckon Yoshida will do okay this season and is still young enough to improve unlike John Terry who aint John Terry any longer (now called Marsha and works the bus station at Pompey Hard when the fleet comes in - alledgedly)

Saints fans always seem to need a whipping boy though and only rarely does the poor bugger chosen deserve that reputation.
Agreed. I thought after some early jitters Yosh had a strong game and made some telling tackles. He certainly was not to blame for either goal.
By all acounts Gardos is meant to be top class , whn fit.
[quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alanrr[/bold] wrote: i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly[/p][/quote]Nothing wrong with Yoshida IMHO mate, he's no John Terry but even John Terry ain't John Terry anymore (I'm getting confused) There are better CB's out there but are they willing to come to us? I reckon Yoshida will do okay this season and is still young enough to improve unlike John Terry who aint John Terry any longer (now called Marsha and works the bus station at Pompey Hard when the fleet comes in - alledgedly) Saints fans always seem to need a whipping boy though and only rarely does the poor bugger chosen deserve that reputation.[/p][/quote]Agreed. I thought after some early jitters Yosh had a strong game and made some telling tackles. He certainly was not to blame for either goal.[/p][/quote]By all acounts Gardos is meant to be top class , whn fit. TGodSFC
  • Score: 6

9:17am Thu 21 Aug 14

Folkestone Saint says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
alanrr wrote:
i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly
You're not alone in your evaluation of Yoshida.
Count me in on that too. Has the potential to be a very good CB.
Looks like the Yoshida fan club is bigger than you thought, as he was never played regularly he always had to try that bit harder when he got picked and thats when you don't relax and play at your best, given a decent run he will be tops I think, after all it takes a good manager to get the best out of his players, not a manager (I use the term loosly) who is too lazy to work with a squad and just pickes his favourites.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alanrr[/bold] wrote: i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly[/p][/quote]You're not alone in your evaluation of Yoshida.[/p][/quote]Count me in on that too. Has the potential to be a very good CB.[/p][/quote]Looks like the Yoshida fan club is bigger than you thought, as he was never played regularly he always had to try that bit harder when he got picked and thats when you don't relax and play at your best, given a decent run he will be tops I think, after all it takes a good manager to get the best out of his players, not a manager (I use the term loosly) who is too lazy to work with a squad and just pickes his favourites. Folkestone Saint
  • Score: 14

9:21am Thu 21 Aug 14

Clever Dick says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
alanrr wrote:
i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly
You're not alone in your evaluation of Yoshida.
Count me in on that too. Has the potential to be a very good CB.
...And as for Townsend, do Spuds really think they can ask more than £10 millon pounds for an average,headless chicken, bench warming sicknote, and at the same time think they can get Spider, one of the best holding MF in the Premier League for a paltry £12million. So it's £30mllion Levy. Take it or leave it. Oh and by the way we were going to send a dossier to the FA regarding your new manager's behaviour here, like Cardiff City have done, but we decided his behaviour here was well in keeping with an extremely tacky club like Spuds. We wouldn't have let him go anywhere else. On second thoughts we'd have let him go to Skiverpool as well.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alanrr[/bold] wrote: i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly[/p][/quote]You're not alone in your evaluation of Yoshida.[/p][/quote]Count me in on that too. Has the potential to be a very good CB.[/p][/quote]...And as for Townsend, do Spuds really think they can ask more than £10 millon pounds for an average,headless chicken, bench warming sicknote, and at the same time think they can get Spider, one of the best holding MF in the Premier League for a paltry £12million. So it's £30mllion Levy. Take it or leave it. Oh and by the way we were going to send a dossier to the FA regarding your new manager's behaviour here, like Cardiff City have done, but we decided his behaviour here was well in keeping with an extremely tacky club like Spuds. We wouldn't have let him go anywhere else. On second thoughts we'd have let him go to Skiverpool as well. Clever Dick
  • Score: 4

9:27am Thu 21 Aug 14

TGodSFC says...

boobooj wrote:
'The 29-year-old has been linked with a move to St Mary’s but it is believed the club hold no interest in him whatsoever, and he has never been on any potential list of transfer targets.'

So you just made it all up then.
As far as I was aware Alvaro Gonzalez deal was done for 5M. I was expecting it to be announced today or tomorrow. Confused.com
[quote][p][bold]boobooj[/bold] wrote: 'The 29-year-old has been linked with a move to St Mary’s but it is believed the club hold no interest in him whatsoever, and he has never been on any potential list of transfer targets.' So you just made it all up then.[/p][/quote]As far as I was aware Alvaro Gonzalez deal was done for 5M. I was expecting it to be announced today or tomorrow. Confused.com TGodSFC
  • Score: 2

9:27am Thu 21 Aug 14

GX Saint says...

If Townsend wants to leave Spurs and come to us then it will happen, if he doesn't it won't. It's the mirror image of the situation with Lovren, Kenwyne Jones etc. So as we get to the end of the window, if he still wants to join us I don't see how Spurs can stop it. Plus they still owe us for nicking Martin Chivers.
If Townsend wants to leave Spurs and come to us then it will happen, if he doesn't it won't. It's the mirror image of the situation with Lovren, Kenwyne Jones etc. So as we get to the end of the window, if he still wants to join us I don't see how Spurs can stop it. Plus they still owe us for nicking Martin Chivers. GX Saint
  • Score: 8

9:31am Thu 21 Aug 14

FleetSaint says...

alanrr wrote:
i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly
Pretty sure you are. He is a classy Championship player but very average Premiership centre back in my opinion. Too prone to panic and the leg shoved out bringing attackers down. Given the choice of Vlaar or Yoshida I would be Vlaar all day. Not that he is coming to us.
[quote][p][bold]alanrr[/bold] wrote: i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly[/p][/quote]Pretty sure you are. He is a classy Championship player but very average Premiership centre back in my opinion. Too prone to panic and the leg shoved out bringing attackers down. Given the choice of Vlaar or Yoshida I would be Vlaar all day. Not that he is coming to us. FleetSaint
  • Score: -10

9:44am Thu 21 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

FleetSaint wrote:
alanrr wrote:
i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly
Pretty sure you are. He is a classy Championship player but very average Premiership centre back in my opinion. Too prone to panic and the leg shoved out bringing attackers down. Given the choice of Vlaar or Yoshida I would be Vlaar all day. Not that he is coming to us.
Obviously jumped the gun with your comment.
[quote][p][bold]FleetSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alanrr[/bold] wrote: i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly[/p][/quote]Pretty sure you are. He is a classy Championship player but very average Premiership centre back in my opinion. Too prone to panic and the leg shoved out bringing attackers down. Given the choice of Vlaar or Yoshida I would be Vlaar all day. Not that he is coming to us.[/p][/quote]Obviously jumped the gun with your comment. Rising_Son
  • Score: 6

10:17am Thu 21 Aug 14

elvis says...

Can we just not do any business with Judas or his shower ever !! The fact they keep offering peanuts for Spyder just to stir things up just about sums them up x
Can we just not do any business with Judas or his shower ever !! The fact they keep offering peanuts for Spyder just to stir things up just about sums them up x elvis
  • Score: 6

10:22am Thu 21 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Man City to shed several players this week according to the gossip columns.
Sinclair and Richards both going - a twofer sounds great to me. Giudetti also going and some young highly rated CB whose name mean might mean something in Gaelic but not possible for the the English tongue.
Interesting!
Man City to shed several players this week according to the gossip columns. Sinclair and Richards both going - a twofer sounds great to me. Giudetti also going and some young highly rated CB whose name mean might mean something in Gaelic but not possible for the the English tongue. Interesting! jls217
  • Score: 3

10:26am Thu 21 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Rising_Son wrote:
FleetSaint wrote:
alanrr wrote:
i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly
Pretty sure you are. He is a classy Championship player but very average Premiership centre back in my opinion. Too prone to panic and the leg shoved out bringing attackers down. Given the choice of Vlaar or Yoshida I would be Vlaar all day. Not that he is coming to us.
Obviously jumped the gun with your comment.
Ooh goody goody..Vlaar's on his way then!?.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FleetSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alanrr[/bold] wrote: i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly[/p][/quote]Pretty sure you are. He is a classy Championship player but very average Premiership centre back in my opinion. Too prone to panic and the leg shoved out bringing attackers down. Given the choice of Vlaar or Yoshida I would be Vlaar all day. Not that he is coming to us.[/p][/quote]Obviously jumped the gun with your comment.[/p][/quote]Ooh goody goody..Vlaar's on his way then!?. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

10:27am Thu 21 Aug 14

bathsaints says...

He had a few good games for England but I think there are better player out there for the money. Good to wind up Spurs but I would think Sinclair or Redmond are better bets. I have said for the last year that I also think Micah Richards could be worth a punt. English, can play CB or RB and with a point to prove, not sure what his wages would be like though. Looking forward to Saturday
He had a few good games for England but I think there are better player out there for the money. Good to wind up Spurs but I would think Sinclair or Redmond are better bets. I have said for the last year that I also think Micah Richards could be worth a punt. English, can play CB or RB and with a point to prove, not sure what his wages would be like though. Looking forward to Saturday bathsaints
  • Score: 4

10:30am Thu 21 Aug 14

jls217 says...

The youngsters name above is something Nastyarseitch - over to you.

Cut and paste from the same source.

The rumours surrounding Lukas Podolski won't go away until the transfer window closes and even then, if he were still at Arsenal, the reports would turn to having a focus for the winter transfer market. Due to the purchase of Alexis Sanchez, Podolski will find it even harder to get into an Arsenal that he wasn't first choice in anyway.
Arsenal could still be in the market for another forward. There are serious doubts whether Olivier Giroud and Yaya Sanogo are the pair who can fire Arsenal to domestic and European glory and therefore the majority of fans would dearly love to see a world class striker brought in.
Whether that happens or not, the Podolski situation continues to be fragile. His agent has been quoted by Sport Bild in Germany explaining that the player is happy in London, but also confirming strong interest from other clubs in his client.
"There have always been inquiries. Now we have a concrete interest of some teams, but Lukas feels good in London."

Those are the words of Nassim Touihri, who is Podolski's adviser according to the German publication. It's also claimed that Arsenal are willing to sell and would accept a relatively modest fee for the World Cup winner. For an offer in the region of €12m to €14m, it's stated that Podolski would be allowed to leave the Premier League club.
The rumours surrounding Lukas Podolski won't go away until the transfer window closes and even then, if he were still at Arsenal, the reports would turn to having a focus for the winter transfer market. Due to the purchase of Alexis Sanchez, Podolski will find it even harder to get into an Arsenal that he wasn't first choice in anyway.
Arsenal could still be in the market for another forward. There are serious doubts whether Olivier Giroud and Yaya Sanogo are the pair who can fire Arsenal to domestic and European glory and therefore the majority of fans would dearly love to see a world class striker brought in.
Whether that happens or not, the Podolski situation continues to be fragile.
The youngsters name above is something Nastyarseitch - over to you. Cut and paste from the same source. The rumours surrounding Lukas Podolski won't go away until the transfer window closes and even then, if he were still at Arsenal, the reports would turn to having a focus for the winter transfer market. Due to the purchase of Alexis Sanchez, Podolski will find it even harder to get into an Arsenal that he wasn't first choice in anyway. Arsenal could still be in the market for another forward. There are serious doubts whether Olivier Giroud and Yaya Sanogo are the pair who can fire Arsenal to domestic and European glory and therefore the majority of fans would dearly love to see a world class striker brought in. Whether that happens or not, the Podolski situation continues to be fragile. His agent has been quoted by Sport Bild in Germany explaining that the player is happy in London, but also confirming strong interest from other clubs in his client. "There have always been inquiries. Now we have a concrete interest of some teams, but Lukas feels good in London." Those are the words of Nassim Touihri, who is Podolski's adviser according to the German publication. It's also claimed that Arsenal are willing to sell and would accept a relatively modest fee for the World Cup winner. For an offer in the region of €12m to €14m, it's stated that Podolski would be allowed to leave the Premier League club. The rumours surrounding Lukas Podolski won't go away until the transfer window closes and even then, if he were still at Arsenal, the reports would turn to having a focus for the winter transfer market. Due to the purchase of Alexis Sanchez, Podolski will find it even harder to get into an Arsenal that he wasn't first choice in anyway. Arsenal could still be in the market for another forward. There are serious doubts whether Olivier Giroud and Yaya Sanogo are the pair who can fire Arsenal to domestic and European glory and therefore the majority of fans would dearly love to see a world class striker brought in. Whether that happens or not, the Podolski situation continues to be fragile. jls217
  • Score: -9

10:32am Thu 21 Aug 14

SaintAsh1964 says...

PLEASE DO NOT BUY ANDROS TOWNSEND AS HE IS P O O
Sorry for shouting, bit I feel quite strongly about this :)
PLEASE DO NOT BUY ANDROS TOWNSEND AS HE IS P O O Sorry for shouting, bit I feel quite strongly about this :) SaintAsh1964
  • Score: 8

10:45am Thu 21 Aug 14

Saint Viking says...

I don't want the club to do any business with Spurs, whether buying or selling. Can't wait for the window to shut frankly. Securing Schneiderlin services completely outweighs any other considerations. If we get a couple of players in from elsewhere, fine, but I hope this Townsend chase leads nowhere.
I don't want the club to do any business with Spurs, whether buying or selling. Can't wait for the window to shut frankly. Securing Schneiderlin services completely outweighs any other considerations. If we get a couple of players in from elsewhere, fine, but I hope this Townsend chase leads nowhere. Saint Viking
  • Score: 8

10:58am Thu 21 Aug 14

kingsaint76 says...

Offer the 10mill for Redmond! I don't want an old foreigner or an erratic Spurs reject who was once on loan at Yeovil...please.....
Offer the 10mill for Redmond! I don't want an old foreigner or an erratic Spurs reject who was once on loan at Yeovil...please..... kingsaint76
  • Score: 7

11:01am Thu 21 Aug 14

BracknellSaint says...

Folkestone Saint wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
alanrr wrote:
i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly
You're not alone in your evaluation of Yoshida.
Count me in on that too. Has the potential to be a very good CB.
Looks like the Yoshida fan club is bigger than you thought, as he was never played regularly he always had to try that bit harder when he got picked and thats when you don't relax and play at your best, given a decent run he will be tops I think, after all it takes a good manager to get the best out of his players, not a manager (I use the term loosly) who is too lazy to work with a squad and just pickes his favourites.
I think Yoshida is definitely good enough to play in the Prem.
OK, He's not as good as the top level players, but he'll always give 100%, won't sulk or cause problems if on the bench( very Japanese lad) and although he has an occasional slip of concentration, he does do well at cutting out through balls etc.
I want to keep him, as we need depth.
As much as Hoover is a nice guy, he's our weakest defender.
[quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alanrr[/bold] wrote: i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly[/p][/quote]You're not alone in your evaluation of Yoshida.[/p][/quote]Count me in on that too. Has the potential to be a very good CB.[/p][/quote]Looks like the Yoshida fan club is bigger than you thought, as he was never played regularly he always had to try that bit harder when he got picked and thats when you don't relax and play at your best, given a decent run he will be tops I think, after all it takes a good manager to get the best out of his players, not a manager (I use the term loosly) who is too lazy to work with a squad and just pickes his favourites.[/p][/quote]I think Yoshida is definitely good enough to play in the Prem. OK, He's not as good as the top level players, but he'll always give 100%, won't sulk or cause problems if on the bench( very Japanese lad) and although he has an occasional slip of concentration, he does do well at cutting out through balls etc. I want to keep him, as we need depth. As much as Hoover is a nice guy, he's our weakest defender. BracknellSaint
  • Score: 10

11:14am Thu 21 Aug 14

Chipmonk1 says...

Daily Mail (for what it is worth) reporting Balotelli to Liverpool. Seems SRL has moved back to be close to his parents and get a free replica shirt or 2. :-)
Daily Mail (for what it is worth) reporting Balotelli to Liverpool. Seems SRL has moved back to be close to his parents and get a free replica shirt or 2. :-) Chipmonk1
  • Score: 5

11:23am Thu 21 Aug 14

Confucious says...

Mrs Wilson says buying Townsend would be like buying underarm deodorant for the Venus de Milo.
Mrs Wilson says buying Townsend would be like buying underarm deodorant for the Venus de Milo. Confucious
  • Score: 10

11:25am Thu 21 Aug 14

Saint Viking says...

Chipmonk1 wrote:
Daily Mail (for what it is worth) reporting Balotelli to Liverpool. Seems SRL has moved back to be close to his parents and get a free replica shirt or 2. :-)
I'm surprised Liverpool are still interested in him. His last season in the Prem with City was terrible, with his ridiculous ego & his disciplinary problems. It's no coincidence that once him & Tevez departed, City became a tighter unit, without all the crap Mancini had to put up with.
[quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: Daily Mail (for what it is worth) reporting Balotelli to Liverpool. Seems SRL has moved back to be close to his parents and get a free replica shirt or 2. :-)[/p][/quote]I'm surprised Liverpool are still interested in him. His last season in the Prem with City was terrible, with his ridiculous ego & his disciplinary problems. It's no coincidence that once him & Tevez departed, City became a tighter unit, without all the crap Mancini had to put up with. Saint Viking
  • Score: 3

11:36am Thu 21 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

Confucious wrote:
Mrs Wilson says buying Townsend would be like buying underarm deodorant for the Venus de Milo.
How is Mrs Wilson, I have missed her updates ........... I kinda thought that due to her popularity Brenda had successfully bid for her ???
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Mrs Wilson says buying Townsend would be like buying underarm deodorant for the Venus de Milo.[/p][/quote]How is Mrs Wilson, I have missed her updates ........... I kinda thought that due to her popularity Brenda had successfully bid for her ??? Buddy SFC
  • Score: 6

11:43am Thu 21 Aug 14

St.Shakeshaft says...

B himself wrote:
Southampton probably ned to offer 16-17 M to get Townsend.
Spurs must have absolutely no sense of value then if they bid £12m for schneiderlin but expect us to bid around the 16 - 17m for Townsend.

I reckon we'd actually get him for 11 or 12m which I'm unsure is worth it personally, but I trust Ron. I think by the end of this year we'll be saying Mauricio who?
[quote][p][bold]B himself[/bold] wrote: Southampton probably ned to offer 16-17 M to get Townsend.[/p][/quote]Spurs must have absolutely no sense of value then if they bid £12m for schneiderlin but expect us to bid around the 16 - 17m for Townsend. I reckon we'd actually get him for 11 or 12m which I'm unsure is worth it personally, but I trust Ron. I think by the end of this year we'll be saying Mauricio who? St.Shakeshaft
  • Score: 5

11:44am Thu 21 Aug 14

ItchenBridger says...

Confucious wrote:
Mrs Wilson says buying Townsend would be like buying underarm deodorant for the Venus de Milo.
Venus de Milo, Deo Dorant and Forbes Phillipson-Masters.
What a defence and Budgie if he's still playing.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Mrs Wilson says buying Townsend would be like buying underarm deodorant for the Venus de Milo.[/p][/quote]Venus de Milo, Deo Dorant and Forbes Phillipson-Masters. What a defence and Budgie if he's still playing. ItchenBridger
  • Score: 1

11:56am Thu 21 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

SouthamptonLegend wrote:
If Lallana is worth £25m, he's easily worth £15m.

Get him in! We can't do any better, let's be honest
I prefer the 'if Morgan is worth £12m, Townsend is worth about £6 million' argument and Levy should understand it because he made the derisory bid.

Good news from the club though and it is nice to see that the club does seem to be in contact with the Echo in an unofficial capacity to quell any rumours and links.

I don't think Townsend would be a bad signing, however, I'd much prefer to see the money invested in defence and I'd much have preferred to have kept Chambers than spent the money from that sale on a winger.

I'd also be concerned that Isgrove and Taider don't just sit around getting very little game time.

As I've said before - weirdly we seem to have very little cover in defence and attack and lots of quality midfielders frustrated on the bench - find that very, very strange unless we have a lot of kids coming through in defence that the club totally believes will come through and take their place in the first team by the end of this season.
[quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote: If Lallana is worth £25m, he's easily worth £15m. Get him in! We can't do any better, let's be honest[/p][/quote]I prefer the 'if Morgan is worth £12m, Townsend is worth about £6 million' argument and Levy should understand it because he made the derisory bid. Good news from the club though and it is nice to see that the club does seem to be in contact with the Echo in an unofficial capacity to quell any rumours and links. I don't think Townsend would be a bad signing, however, I'd much prefer to see the money invested in defence and I'd much have preferred to have kept Chambers than spent the money from that sale on a winger. I'd also be concerned that Isgrove and Taider don't just sit around getting very little game time. As I've said before - weirdly we seem to have very little cover in defence and attack and lots of quality midfielders frustrated on the bench - find that very, very strange unless we have a lot of kids coming through in defence that the club totally believes will come through and take their place in the first team by the end of this season. SaintJD
  • Score: 2

12:01pm Thu 21 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Rising_Son wrote:
FleetSaint wrote:
alanrr wrote:
i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly
Pretty sure you are. He is a classy Championship player but very average Premiership centre back in my opinion. Too prone to panic and the leg shoved out bringing attackers down. Given the choice of Vlaar or Yoshida I would be Vlaar all day. Not that he is coming to us.
Obviously jumped the gun with your comment.
Yoshida's general game is very solid - he just needs to rewire his brain and concentrate 100% at all times. Either he's a bit casual at times or he has such confidence in his ability that he plays a stray pass or doesn't play safety first - something that could cost us and nearly did at the weekend.

If he can wipe that bit out of his game he'd be fine but at the moment he's got that error in him every now and then.

I don't think he deserves stick though as I don't think it's from lack of commitment or effort.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FleetSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alanrr[/bold] wrote: i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly[/p][/quote]Pretty sure you are. He is a classy Championship player but very average Premiership centre back in my opinion. Too prone to panic and the leg shoved out bringing attackers down. Given the choice of Vlaar or Yoshida I would be Vlaar all day. Not that he is coming to us.[/p][/quote]Obviously jumped the gun with your comment.[/p][/quote]Yoshida's general game is very solid - he just needs to rewire his brain and concentrate 100% at all times. Either he's a bit casual at times or he has such confidence in his ability that he plays a stray pass or doesn't play safety first - something that could cost us and nearly did at the weekend. If he can wipe that bit out of his game he'd be fine but at the moment he's got that error in him every now and then. I don't think he deserves stick though as I don't think it's from lack of commitment or effort. SaintJD
  • Score: 5

12:05pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Saintjock says...

Don't want Townsend as we can do much better. There's an inconsistency about his performances that have made him the fringe player he is. Even when he was bigged up a year or so ago as the saviour of the England team who just might.....er.....may
be not) everyone knew that if he couldn't get into the Spuds team there was something not quite right about him.

Anyway, Spider is not just a player, he's a principle. Both RKs have said not for sale, will not be sold this transfer window, enough's enough etc. So even if Spuds offered £25m (which Levy never would anyway), we can't sell. Not to Spuds, or anyone, as they have said....read my lips....not for sale. So if they sold him it would mean you could not believe a single thing issued by the club again. Even more seriously, Koeman himself would be in a really bad position.

So bad idea. Best to do no business with Spuds.
Don't want Townsend as we can do much better. There's an inconsistency about his performances that have made him the fringe player he is. Even when he was bigged up a year or so ago as the saviour of the England team who just might.....er.....may be not) everyone knew that if he couldn't get into the Spuds team there was something not quite right about him. Anyway, Spider is not just a player, he's a principle. Both RKs have said not for sale, will not be sold this transfer window, enough's enough etc. So even if Spuds offered £25m (which Levy never would anyway), we can't sell. Not to Spuds, or anyone, as they have said....read my lips....not for sale. So if they sold him it would mean you could not believe a single thing issued by the club again. Even more seriously, Koeman himself would be in a really bad position. So bad idea. Best to do no business with Spuds. Saintjock
  • Score: 7

12:11pm Thu 21 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

bathsaints wrote:
He had a few good games for England but I think there are better player out there for the money. Good to wind up Spurs but I would think Sinclair or Redmond are better bets. I have said for the last year that I also think Micah Richards could be worth a punt. English, can play CB or RB and with a point to prove, not sure what his wages would be like though. Looking forward to Saturday
I don't think we can afford to put someone with Richards' injury record on our books, certainly not on his likely wages. Sinclair is too much of a celebrity magnet - football secondary to him. I'd leave both of those to 'Arry personally, although Andros fits his profile as well to be honest.

I don't think Townsend is bad though and the fact he's been out on loan a few times suggests to me that he wants to play first and foremost, which is admirable, as Sinclair has seemed happy to sit and lap up the lifestyle.
[quote][p][bold]bathsaints[/bold] wrote: He had a few good games for England but I think there are better player out there for the money. Good to wind up Spurs but I would think Sinclair or Redmond are better bets. I have said for the last year that I also think Micah Richards could be worth a punt. English, can play CB or RB and with a point to prove, not sure what his wages would be like though. Looking forward to Saturday[/p][/quote]I don't think we can afford to put someone with Richards' injury record on our books, certainly not on his likely wages. Sinclair is too much of a celebrity magnet - football secondary to him. I'd leave both of those to 'Arry personally, although Andros fits his profile as well to be honest. I don't think Townsend is bad though and the fact he's been out on loan a few times suggests to me that he wants to play first and foremost, which is admirable, as Sinclair has seemed happy to sit and lap up the lifestyle. SaintJD
  • Score: 2

12:15pm Thu 21 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

SaintJD wrote:
bathsaints wrote:
He had a few good games for England but I think there are better player out there for the money. Good to wind up Spurs but I would think Sinclair or Redmond are better bets. I have said for the last year that I also think Micah Richards could be worth a punt. English, can play CB or RB and with a point to prove, not sure what his wages would be like though. Looking forward to Saturday
I don't think we can afford to put someone with Richards' injury record on our books, certainly not on his likely wages. Sinclair is too much of a celebrity magnet - football secondary to him. I'd leave both of those to 'Arry personally, although Andros fits his profile as well to be honest.

I don't think Townsend is bad though and the fact he's been out on loan a few times suggests to me that he wants to play first and foremost, which is admirable, as Sinclair has seemed happy to sit and lap up the lifestyle.
Nastasic would be a decent loan signing though - I'd like to see us dip into the loan market for one more maybe, unless we want to keep one in hand for January.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bathsaints[/bold] wrote: He had a few good games for England but I think there are better player out there for the money. Good to wind up Spurs but I would think Sinclair or Redmond are better bets. I have said for the last year that I also think Micah Richards could be worth a punt. English, can play CB or RB and with a point to prove, not sure what his wages would be like though. Looking forward to Saturday[/p][/quote]I don't think we can afford to put someone with Richards' injury record on our books, certainly not on his likely wages. Sinclair is too much of a celebrity magnet - football secondary to him. I'd leave both of those to 'Arry personally, although Andros fits his profile as well to be honest. I don't think Townsend is bad though and the fact he's been out on loan a few times suggests to me that he wants to play first and foremost, which is admirable, as Sinclair has seemed happy to sit and lap up the lifestyle.[/p][/quote]Nastasic would be a decent loan signing though - I'd like to see us dip into the loan market for one more maybe, unless we want to keep one in hand for January. SaintJD
  • Score: 0

12:51pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Berkshire Saint says...

I hope the negotiators at Saints are learning quickly and are not to be dictated to by other clubs. We should be using the fact that they got our Manager as a bargaining tool and definitely not Morgan. Remember also Spurs were quite predatory in buying out Bale's sell on clause which cost us around £20m.
I hope the negotiators at Saints are learning quickly and are not to be dictated to by other clubs. We should be using the fact that they got our Manager as a bargaining tool and definitely not Morgan. Remember also Spurs were quite predatory in buying out Bale's sell on clause which cost us around £20m. Berkshire Saint
  • Score: 2

12:52pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Velleity says...

For all the people supporting Yoshida, just remember that now that Guly's gone, everything is now Maya's fault.
For all the people supporting Yoshida, just remember that now that Guly's gone, everything is now Maya's fault. Velleity
  • Score: -3

12:55pm Thu 21 Aug 14

st.ranger says...

promised land wrote:
The fact is spurs are looking to offload Townsend and Saints have made it clear they want to keep Schneiderlin. It appears spurs have thrown their toys out of the pram and are acting like a bunch of amateurs when it comes to business.
the usual levy transfer season plays out
[quote][p][bold]promised land[/bold] wrote: The fact is spurs are looking to offload Townsend and Saints have made it clear they want to keep Schneiderlin. It appears spurs have thrown their toys out of the pram and are acting like a bunch of amateurs when it comes to business.[/p][/quote]the usual levy transfer season plays out st.ranger
  • Score: 1

12:57pm Thu 21 Aug 14

st.ranger says...

Velleity wrote:
For all the people supporting Yoshida, just remember that now that Guly's gone, everything is now Maya's fault.
I aint that impressed by victor, at least yoshie tries hard
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: For all the people supporting Yoshida, just remember that now that Guly's gone, everything is now Maya's fault.[/p][/quote]I aint that impressed by victor, at least yoshie tries hard st.ranger
  • Score: -5

1:01pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Chipmonk1 says...

Velleity wrote:
For all the people supporting Yoshida, just remember that now that Guly's gone, everything is now Maya's fault.
Does that mean Pelle is the new Fox or Long?
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: For all the people supporting Yoshida, just remember that now that Guly's gone, everything is now Maya's fault.[/p][/quote]Does that mean Pelle is the new Fox or Long? Chipmonk1
  • Score: 0

1:01pm Thu 21 Aug 14

North Wales Saint says...

FleetSaint wrote:
alanrr wrote:
i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly
Pretty sure you are. He is a classy Championship player but very average Premiership centre back in my opinion. Too prone to panic and the leg shoved out bringing attackers down. Given the choice of Vlaar or Yoshida I would be Vlaar all day. Not that he is coming to us.
Didn' t the Fonts and Yoshida combination, pre Lovren, have the best defensive record ie fewest goals conceded?
[quote][p][bold]FleetSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alanrr[/bold] wrote: i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly[/p][/quote]Pretty sure you are. He is a classy Championship player but very average Premiership centre back in my opinion. Too prone to panic and the leg shoved out bringing attackers down. Given the choice of Vlaar or Yoshida I would be Vlaar all day. Not that he is coming to us.[/p][/quote]Didn' t the Fonts and Yoshida combination, pre Lovren, have the best defensive record ie fewest goals conceded? North Wales Saint
  • Score: 4

1:03pm Thu 21 Aug 14

westfordUSAsaints says...

saint christopher wrote:
Chipmonk1 wrote:
Reading between the lines there does seem to be a conduit of information between club and echo again finally. Personally I can't wait for the finish of the transfer window and if it means no more outs I would take no more ins. Honestly I don't think my nerves can last much longer. It would be nice to go back to arguing on this site over who should be in the first 11 and who did or did not have a mare last game.
Currently think we're on a par or even a tad above our playing level of last year - so assuming others have strengthened that gives us a realistic hope of around 10th, which would be excellent given the recent turmoil.

Which makes the end of this transfer window pretty vital if we're to realistically push higher, especially when it comes to converting the many chances this team will create. Unfortunately proven goalscorers don't come cheap, especially at the end of transfer windows, and I have a feeling that Shane Long is the nearest we're going to get to a "marque" signing in that area.

This means that our current forward players (and Jay once he's back) have really got to sharpen up pronto. I don't think I can put up with another season of "played them off the park, should have won by 3 or 4, but had to settle for the draw" ... or nowt.
You won't, because Ron is a much better tactician than MOPO, did you see the switching of formation going on up front on Sunday in order to push for the winner / Draw. MOPO plan A, Ron, A,B,C and I think, D as well.
[quote][p][bold]saint christopher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: Reading between the lines there does seem to be a conduit of information between club and echo again finally. Personally I can't wait for the finish of the transfer window and if it means no more outs I would take no more ins. Honestly I don't think my nerves can last much longer. It would be nice to go back to arguing on this site over who should be in the first 11 and who did or did not have a mare last game.[/p][/quote]Currently think we're on a par or even a tad above our playing level of last year - so assuming others have strengthened that gives us a realistic hope of around 10th, which would be excellent given the recent turmoil. Which makes the end of this transfer window pretty vital if we're to realistically push higher, especially when it comes to converting the many chances this team will create. Unfortunately proven goalscorers don't come cheap, especially at the end of transfer windows, and I have a feeling that Shane Long is the nearest we're going to get to a "marque" signing in that area. This means that our current forward players (and Jay once he's back) have really got to sharpen up pronto. I don't think I can put up with another season of "played them off the park, should have won by 3 or 4, but had to settle for the draw" ... or nowt.[/p][/quote]You won't, because Ron is a much better tactician than MOPO, did you see the switching of formation going on up front on Sunday in order to push for the winner / Draw. MOPO plan A, Ron, A,B,C and I think, D as well. westfordUSAsaints
  • Score: 5

1:13pm Thu 21 Aug 14

westfordUSAsaints says...

SaintJD wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
FleetSaint wrote:
alanrr wrote:
i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly
Pretty sure you are. He is a classy Championship player but very average Premiership centre back in my opinion. Too prone to panic and the leg shoved out bringing attackers down. Given the choice of Vlaar or Yoshida I would be Vlaar all day. Not that he is coming to us.
Obviously jumped the gun with your comment.
Yoshida's general game is very solid - he just needs to rewire his brain and concentrate 100% at all times. Either he's a bit casual at times or he has such confidence in his ability that he plays a stray pass or doesn't play safety first - something that could cost us and nearly did at the weekend.

If he can wipe that bit out of his game he'd be fine but at the moment he's got that error in him every now and then.

I don't think he deserves stick though as I don't think it's from lack of commitment or effort.
Totally agree, we's good on the ball but lacks concentration 100%, and those Luke lovers on here, how many times did he do the same thing last season, lost focus, many of the goals we conceded were down his side of defense when he lost his marker of was ball watching.

Hoover is now just emergency cover, so when this Romanian kid gets up to speed I expect him to go right into the team with Fonte and Maya is back up.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FleetSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alanrr[/bold] wrote: i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly[/p][/quote]Pretty sure you are. He is a classy Championship player but very average Premiership centre back in my opinion. Too prone to panic and the leg shoved out bringing attackers down. Given the choice of Vlaar or Yoshida I would be Vlaar all day. Not that he is coming to us.[/p][/quote]Obviously jumped the gun with your comment.[/p][/quote]Yoshida's general game is very solid - he just needs to rewire his brain and concentrate 100% at all times. Either he's a bit casual at times or he has such confidence in his ability that he plays a stray pass or doesn't play safety first - something that could cost us and nearly did at the weekend. If he can wipe that bit out of his game he'd be fine but at the moment he's got that error in him every now and then. I don't think he deserves stick though as I don't think it's from lack of commitment or effort.[/p][/quote]Totally agree, we's good on the ball but lacks concentration 100%, and those Luke lovers on here, how many times did he do the same thing last season, lost focus, many of the goals we conceded were down his side of defense when he lost his marker of was ball watching. Hoover is now just emergency cover, so when this Romanian kid gets up to speed I expect him to go right into the team with Fonte and Maya is back up. westfordUSAsaints
  • Score: 1

1:24pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

st.ranger wrote:
Velleity wrote:
For all the people supporting Yoshida, just remember that now that Guly's gone, everything is now Maya's fault.
I aint that impressed by victor, at least yoshie tries hard
Maya's usually a girl's name, Yoshie always is. What are you trying to tell us?
[quote][p][bold]st.ranger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: For all the people supporting Yoshida, just remember that now that Guly's gone, everything is now Maya's fault.[/p][/quote]I aint that impressed by victor, at least yoshie tries hard[/p][/quote]Maya's usually a girl's name, Yoshie always is. What are you trying to tell us? Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

1:26pm Thu 21 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

westfordUSAsaints wrote:
saint christopher wrote:
Chipmonk1 wrote:
Reading between the lines there does seem to be a conduit of information between club and echo again finally. Personally I can't wait for the finish of the transfer window and if it means no more outs I would take no more ins. Honestly I don't think my nerves can last much longer. It would be nice to go back to arguing on this site over who should be in the first 11 and who did or did not have a mare last game.
Currently think we're on a par or even a tad above our playing level of last year - so assuming others have strengthened that gives us a realistic hope of around 10th, which would be excellent given the recent turmoil.

Which makes the end of this transfer window pretty vital if we're to realistically push higher, especially when it comes to converting the many chances this team will create. Unfortunately proven goalscorers don't come cheap, especially at the end of transfer windows, and I have a feeling that Shane Long is the nearest we're going to get to a "marque" signing in that area.

This means that our current forward players (and Jay once he's back) have really got to sharpen up pronto. I don't think I can put up with another season of "played them off the park, should have won by 3 or 4, but had to settle for the draw" ... or nowt.
You won't, because Ron is a much better tactician than MOPO, did you see the switching of formation going on up front on Sunday in order to push for the winner / Draw. MOPO plan A, Ron, A,B,C and I think, D as well.
To be fair to MoPo (not that he deserves it), and not to knock Ron, because he is astute, we didn't need a plan B, C or D at Liverpool or for several away games last season because, for the first time I can remember, we went away and bossed possession for the majority of the game.

We didn't in the first half on Sunday and Ron fixed that.

Sorry, just this 'Plan A' cr@p that annoys me. MoPo only had a plan A because he didn't need a plan B or C - the same ethic as employed at Arsenal and Barcelona. Costs them the odd point here and there, but they are happy to give that up to stick to their footballing philosophy.
[quote][p][bold]westfordUSAsaints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint christopher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: Reading between the lines there does seem to be a conduit of information between club and echo again finally. Personally I can't wait for the finish of the transfer window and if it means no more outs I would take no more ins. Honestly I don't think my nerves can last much longer. It would be nice to go back to arguing on this site over who should be in the first 11 and who did or did not have a mare last game.[/p][/quote]Currently think we're on a par or even a tad above our playing level of last year - so assuming others have strengthened that gives us a realistic hope of around 10th, which would be excellent given the recent turmoil. Which makes the end of this transfer window pretty vital if we're to realistically push higher, especially when it comes to converting the many chances this team will create. Unfortunately proven goalscorers don't come cheap, especially at the end of transfer windows, and I have a feeling that Shane Long is the nearest we're going to get to a "marque" signing in that area. This means that our current forward players (and Jay once he's back) have really got to sharpen up pronto. I don't think I can put up with another season of "played them off the park, should have won by 3 or 4, but had to settle for the draw" ... or nowt.[/p][/quote]You won't, because Ron is a much better tactician than MOPO, did you see the switching of formation going on up front on Sunday in order to push for the winner / Draw. MOPO plan A, Ron, A,B,C and I think, D as well.[/p][/quote]To be fair to MoPo (not that he deserves it), and not to knock Ron, because he is astute, we didn't need a plan B, C or D at Liverpool or for several away games last season because, for the first time I can remember, we went away and bossed possession for the majority of the game. We didn't in the first half on Sunday and Ron fixed that. Sorry, just this 'Plan A' cr@p that annoys me. MoPo only had a plan A because he didn't need a plan B or C - the same ethic as employed at Arsenal and Barcelona. Costs them the odd point here and there, but they are happy to give that up to stick to their footballing philosophy. SaintJD
  • Score: 0

1:29pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

SaintJD wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
FleetSaint wrote:
alanrr wrote:
i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly
Pretty sure you are. He is a classy Championship player but very average Premiership centre back in my opinion. Too prone to panic and the leg shoved out bringing attackers down. Given the choice of Vlaar or Yoshida I would be Vlaar all day. Not that he is coming to us.
Obviously jumped the gun with your comment.
Yoshida's general game is very solid - he just needs to rewire his brain and concentrate 100% at all times. Either he's a bit casual at times or he has such confidence in his ability that he plays a stray pass or doesn't play safety first - something that could cost us and nearly did at the weekend.

If he can wipe that bit out of his game he'd be fine but at the moment he's got that error in him every now and then.

I don't think he deserves stick though as I don't think it's from lack of commitment or effort.
Passing is his weakest point, but I got the feeling at Liverpool that it is something he is working on. (Victor's passing was much better than last season.) Like everyone else, he makes mistakes, but he does get better when he has a run of matches.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FleetSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alanrr[/bold] wrote: i must be the only supporter who thinks yoshida is ok.....world cup player who plays regularly[/p][/quote]Pretty sure you are. He is a classy Championship player but very average Premiership centre back in my opinion. Too prone to panic and the leg shoved out bringing attackers down. Given the choice of Vlaar or Yoshida I would be Vlaar all day. Not that he is coming to us.[/p][/quote]Obviously jumped the gun with your comment.[/p][/quote]Yoshida's general game is very solid - he just needs to rewire his brain and concentrate 100% at all times. Either he's a bit casual at times or he has such confidence in his ability that he plays a stray pass or doesn't play safety first - something that could cost us and nearly did at the weekend. If he can wipe that bit out of his game he'd be fine but at the moment he's got that error in him every now and then. I don't think he deserves stick though as I don't think it's from lack of commitment or effort.[/p][/quote]Passing is his weakest point, but I got the feeling at Liverpool that it is something he is working on. (Victor's passing was much better than last season.) Like everyone else, he makes mistakes, but he does get better when he has a run of matches. Rising_Son
  • Score: 2

1:35pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

SaintJD wrote:
westfordUSAsaints wrote:
saint christopher wrote:
Chipmonk1 wrote:
Reading between the lines there does seem to be a conduit of information between club and echo again finally. Personally I can't wait for the finish of the transfer window and if it means no more outs I would take no more ins. Honestly I don't think my nerves can last much longer. It would be nice to go back to arguing on this site over who should be in the first 11 and who did or did not have a mare last game.
Currently think we're on a par or even a tad above our playing level of last year - so assuming others have strengthened that gives us a realistic hope of around 10th, which would be excellent given the recent turmoil.

Which makes the end of this transfer window pretty vital if we're to realistically push higher, especially when it comes to converting the many chances this team will create. Unfortunately proven goalscorers don't come cheap, especially at the end of transfer windows, and I have a feeling that Shane Long is the nearest we're going to get to a "marque" signing in that area.

This means that our current forward players (and Jay once he's back) have really got to sharpen up pronto. I don't think I can put up with another season of "played them off the park, should have won by 3 or 4, but had to settle for the draw" ... or nowt.
You won't, because Ron is a much better tactician than MOPO, did you see the switching of formation going on up front on Sunday in order to push for the winner / Draw. MOPO plan A, Ron, A,B,C and I think, D as well.
To be fair to MoPo (not that he deserves it), and not to knock Ron, because he is astute, we didn't need a plan B, C or D at Liverpool or for several away games last season because, for the first time I can remember, we went away and bossed possession for the majority of the game.

We didn't in the first half on Sunday and Ron fixed that.

Sorry, just this 'Plan A' cr@p that annoys me. MoPo only had a plan A because he didn't need a plan B or C - the same ethic as employed at Arsenal and Barcelona. Costs them the odd point here and there, but they are happy to give that up to stick to their footballing philosophy.
I think that Koeman aspires to a positionally flexible system ( a la total football) and is getting the team to incorporate Plans A, B, C, etc. into one incredible Plan X+. It'll take some time though.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]westfordUSAsaints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint christopher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: Reading between the lines there does seem to be a conduit of information between club and echo again finally. Personally I can't wait for the finish of the transfer window and if it means no more outs I would take no more ins. Honestly I don't think my nerves can last much longer. It would be nice to go back to arguing on this site over who should be in the first 11 and who did or did not have a mare last game.[/p][/quote]Currently think we're on a par or even a tad above our playing level of last year - so assuming others have strengthened that gives us a realistic hope of around 10th, which would be excellent given the recent turmoil. Which makes the end of this transfer window pretty vital if we're to realistically push higher, especially when it comes to converting the many chances this team will create. Unfortunately proven goalscorers don't come cheap, especially at the end of transfer windows, and I have a feeling that Shane Long is the nearest we're going to get to a "marque" signing in that area. This means that our current forward players (and Jay once he's back) have really got to sharpen up pronto. I don't think I can put up with another season of "played them off the park, should have won by 3 or 4, but had to settle for the draw" ... or nowt.[/p][/quote]You won't, because Ron is a much better tactician than MOPO, did you see the switching of formation going on up front on Sunday in order to push for the winner / Draw. MOPO plan A, Ron, A,B,C and I think, D as well.[/p][/quote]To be fair to MoPo (not that he deserves it), and not to knock Ron, because he is astute, we didn't need a plan B, C or D at Liverpool or for several away games last season because, for the first time I can remember, we went away and bossed possession for the majority of the game. We didn't in the first half on Sunday and Ron fixed that. Sorry, just this 'Plan A' cr@p that annoys me. MoPo only had a plan A because he didn't need a plan B or C - the same ethic as employed at Arsenal and Barcelona. Costs them the odd point here and there, but they are happy to give that up to stick to their footballing philosophy.[/p][/quote]I think that Koeman aspires to a positionally flexible system ( a la total football) and is getting the team to incorporate Plans A, B, C, etc. into one incredible Plan X+. It'll take some time though. Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

1:38pm Thu 21 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Rising_Son wrote:
st.ranger wrote:
Velleity wrote:
For all the people supporting Yoshida, just remember that now that Guly's gone, everything is now Maya's fault.
I aint that impressed by victor, at least yoshie tries hard
Maya's usually a girl's name, Yoshie always is. What are you trying to tell us?
Suggesting Victor doesn't try hard is interesting. Think you need to talk to some of the Liverpool players he flattened on Sunday.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st.ranger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: For all the people supporting Yoshida, just remember that now that Guly's gone, everything is now Maya's fault.[/p][/quote]I aint that impressed by victor, at least yoshie tries hard[/p][/quote]Maya's usually a girl's name, Yoshie always is. What are you trying to tell us?[/p][/quote]Suggesting Victor doesn't try hard is interesting. Think you need to talk to some of the Liverpool players he flattened on Sunday. SaintJD
  • Score: 6

1:39pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Beer Monster says...

Saint Viking wrote:
Chipmonk1 wrote:
Daily Mail (for what it is worth) reporting Balotelli to Liverpool. Seems SRL has moved back to be close to his parents and get a free replica shirt or 2. :-)
I'm surprised Liverpool are still interested in him. His last season in the Prem with City was terrible, with his ridiculous ego & his disciplinary problems. It's no coincidence that once him & Tevez departed, City became a tighter unit, without all the crap Mancini had to put up with.
Proven goal scorer at a fraction of the cost of Suarez though, and Brenda has had plenty of practice in trying to solve disciplinary issues...

SRL will go into coaching - if he can do that up there and be near his family then fair play to the guy.
[quote][p][bold]Saint Viking[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: Daily Mail (for what it is worth) reporting Balotelli to Liverpool. Seems SRL has moved back to be close to his parents and get a free replica shirt or 2. :-)[/p][/quote]I'm surprised Liverpool are still interested in him. His last season in the Prem with City was terrible, with his ridiculous ego & his disciplinary problems. It's no coincidence that once him & Tevez departed, City became a tighter unit, without all the crap Mancini had to put up with.[/p][/quote]Proven goal scorer at a fraction of the cost of Suarez though, and Brenda has had plenty of practice in trying to solve disciplinary issues... SRL will go into coaching - if he can do that up there and be near his family then fair play to the guy. Beer Monster
  • Score: 0

1:43pm Thu 21 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

SaintJD wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
st.ranger wrote:
Velleity wrote:
For all the people supporting Yoshida, just remember that now that Guly's gone, everything is now Maya's fault.
I aint that impressed by victor, at least yoshie tries hard
Maya's usually a girl's name, Yoshie always is. What are you trying to tell us?
Suggesting Victor doesn't try hard is interesting. Think you need to talk to some of the Liverpool players he flattened on Sunday.
By the way, how about we don't have a replacement for Fox and Guly?
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st.ranger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: For all the people supporting Yoshida, just remember that now that Guly's gone, everything is now Maya's fault.[/p][/quote]I aint that impressed by victor, at least yoshie tries hard[/p][/quote]Maya's usually a girl's name, Yoshie always is. What are you trying to tell us?[/p][/quote]Suggesting Victor doesn't try hard is interesting. Think you need to talk to some of the Liverpool players he flattened on Sunday.[/p][/quote]By the way, how about we don't have a replacement for Fox and Guly? SaintJD
  • Score: 0

1:44pm Thu 21 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Rising_Son wrote:
st.ranger wrote:
Velleity wrote:
For all the people supporting Yoshida, just remember that now that Guly's gone, everything is now Maya's fault.
I aint that impressed by victor, at least yoshie tries hard
Maya's usually a girl's name, Yoshie always is. What are you trying to tell us?
Does that mean Yoshie off Super Mario is a girl? All this time not knowing.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st.ranger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: For all the people supporting Yoshida, just remember that now that Guly's gone, everything is now Maya's fault.[/p][/quote]I aint that impressed by victor, at least yoshie tries hard[/p][/quote]Maya's usually a girl's name, Yoshie always is. What are you trying to tell us?[/p][/quote]Does that mean Yoshie off Super Mario is a girl? All this time not knowing. SaintJD
  • Score: 0

2:18pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Confucious says...

Buddy SFC wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Mrs Wilson says buying Townsend would be like buying underarm deodorant for the Venus de Milo.
How is Mrs Wilson, I have missed her updates ........... I kinda thought that due to her popularity Brenda had successfully bid for her ???
She's on good form. She was being tempted by Chelsea but Krueger got her a new PBX switchboard system with a KSU automated attendant and a digital call distributor on the main receptionist portal. She was always complaining before that Cortese had no ambition or vision on the telecommunications front.
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Mrs Wilson says buying Townsend would be like buying underarm deodorant for the Venus de Milo.[/p][/quote]How is Mrs Wilson, I have missed her updates ........... I kinda thought that due to her popularity Brenda had successfully bid for her ???[/p][/quote]She's on good form. She was being tempted by Chelsea but Krueger got her a new PBX switchboard system with a KSU automated attendant and a digital call distributor on the main receptionist portal. She was always complaining before that Cortese had no ambition or vision on the telecommunications front. Confucious
  • Score: 6

2:18pm Thu 21 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Beer Monster wrote:
Saint Viking wrote:
Chipmonk1 wrote:
Daily Mail (for what it is worth) reporting Balotelli to Liverpool. Seems SRL has moved back to be close to his parents and get a free replica shirt or 2. :-)
I'm surprised Liverpool are still interested in him. His last season in the Prem with City was terrible, with his ridiculous ego & his disciplinary problems. It's no coincidence that once him & Tevez departed, City became a tighter unit, without all the crap Mancini had to put up with.
Proven goal scorer at a fraction of the cost of Suarez though, and Brenda has had plenty of practice in trying to solve disciplinary issues...

SRL will go into coaching - if he can do that up there and be near his family then fair play to the guy.
If Liverpool buy Balotelli it will be hilarious. Proven goalscorer? If that's the case they should look at Danii Osvaldo! Balotelli has only proven two things: one that he's a liability and two that his scoring record isn't a match for all the headlines and hype. Honestly, he'd be a disaster - terrible value for money. Bony would be far better, Benteke, anyone else frankly.

And I thought Liverpool had these pretend 'high ethics'. I'd love it if it happens though, really, because can you imagine the likes of Lovren, Adam and Rickie turning up at the training ground and being faced with that muppet's antics - Rickie in particular would be mortified seeing as he loves the club so much. Mario couldn't care less.
[quote][p][bold]Beer Monster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Viking[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: Daily Mail (for what it is worth) reporting Balotelli to Liverpool. Seems SRL has moved back to be close to his parents and get a free replica shirt or 2. :-)[/p][/quote]I'm surprised Liverpool are still interested in him. His last season in the Prem with City was terrible, with his ridiculous ego & his disciplinary problems. It's no coincidence that once him & Tevez departed, City became a tighter unit, without all the crap Mancini had to put up with.[/p][/quote]Proven goal scorer at a fraction of the cost of Suarez though, and Brenda has had plenty of practice in trying to solve disciplinary issues... SRL will go into coaching - if he can do that up there and be near his family then fair play to the guy.[/p][/quote]If Liverpool buy Balotelli it will be hilarious. Proven goalscorer? If that's the case they should look at Danii Osvaldo! Balotelli has only proven two things: one that he's a liability and two that his scoring record isn't a match for all the headlines and hype. Honestly, he'd be a disaster - terrible value for money. Bony would be far better, Benteke, anyone else frankly. And I thought Liverpool had these pretend 'high ethics'. I'd love it if it happens though, really, because can you imagine the likes of Lovren, Adam and Rickie turning up at the training ground and being faced with that muppet's antics - Rickie in particular would be mortified seeing as he loves the club so much. Mario couldn't care less. SaintJD
  • Score: 2

2:19pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Soton Yid says...

promised land wrote:
The fact is spurs are looking to offload Townsend and Saints have made it clear they want to keep Schneiderlin. It appears spurs have thrown their toys out of the pram and are acting like a bunch of amateurs when it comes to business.
Levi hardly amateur when it comes to business.
[quote][p][bold]promised land[/bold] wrote: The fact is spurs are looking to offload Townsend and Saints have made it clear they want to keep Schneiderlin. It appears spurs have thrown their toys out of the pram and are acting like a bunch of amateurs when it comes to business.[/p][/quote]Levi hardly amateur when it comes to business. Soton Yid
  • Score: -3

2:28pm Thu 21 Aug 14

saint gee says...

THE12THMAN wrote:
Is Townsend worth the money being mentioned? I don't think so, I personally don't think we should do any business with the spuds, Scott Sinclair has got to be better value for money than Townsend and he scores goals.
or even Zaha for united, now that boy could bring some magic to the team.
[quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: Is Townsend worth the money being mentioned? I don't think so, I personally don't think we should do any business with the spuds, Scott Sinclair has got to be better value for money than Townsend and he scores goals.[/p][/quote]or even Zaha for united, now that boy could bring some magic to the team. saint gee
  • Score: 5

2:45pm Thu 21 Aug 14

CB FRY LIVES says...

SaintJD wrote:
bathsaints wrote:
He had a few good games for England but I think there are better player out there for the money. Good to wind up Spurs but I would think Sinclair or Redmond are better bets. I have said for the last year that I also think Micah Richards could be worth a punt. English, can play CB or RB and with a point to prove, not sure what his wages would be like though. Looking forward to Saturday
I don't think we can afford to put someone with Richards' injury record on our books, certainly not on his likely wages. Sinclair is too much of a celebrity magnet - football secondary to him. I'd leave both of those to 'Arry personally, although Andros fits his profile as well to be honest.

I don't think Townsend is bad though and the fact he's been out on loan a few times suggests to me that he wants to play first and foremost, which is admirable, as Sinclair has seemed happy to sit and lap up the lifestyle.
Yes forget about Scott Sinclair he like too many other British players took the gravy train to Mansewer City and ended up going down the drain as far as the football is concerned.
ANYWAY WHO NEEDS SCOTT SINCLAIR WHEN WE HAVE HIS YOUNGER AND MORE TALENTED BROTHER JAKE SINCLAIR ON THE SAINTS PLAYING STAFF.
COME ON YOU RED AND WHITE STRIPES GET THE 3 POINTS ON SATURDAY V WBA AND START SHOOTING UP THE LEAGUE.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bathsaints[/bold] wrote: He had a few good games for England but I think there are better player out there for the money. Good to wind up Spurs but I would think Sinclair or Redmond are better bets. I have said for the last year that I also think Micah Richards could be worth a punt. English, can play CB or RB and with a point to prove, not sure what his wages would be like though. Looking forward to Saturday[/p][/quote]I don't think we can afford to put someone with Richards' injury record on our books, certainly not on his likely wages. Sinclair is too much of a celebrity magnet - football secondary to him. I'd leave both of those to 'Arry personally, although Andros fits his profile as well to be honest. I don't think Townsend is bad though and the fact he's been out on loan a few times suggests to me that he wants to play first and foremost, which is admirable, as Sinclair has seemed happy to sit and lap up the lifestyle.[/p][/quote]Yes forget about Scott Sinclair he like too many other British players took the gravy train to Mansewer City and ended up going down the drain as far as the football is concerned. ANYWAY WHO NEEDS SCOTT SINCLAIR WHEN WE HAVE HIS YOUNGER AND MORE TALENTED BROTHER JAKE SINCLAIR ON THE SAINTS PLAYING STAFF. COME ON YOU RED AND WHITE STRIPES GET THE 3 POINTS ON SATURDAY V WBA AND START SHOOTING UP THE LEAGUE. CB FRY LIVES
  • Score: 5

3:01pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

SaintJD wrote:
westfordUSAsaints wrote:
saint christopher wrote:
Chipmonk1 wrote:
Reading between the lines there does seem to be a conduit of information between club and echo again finally. Personally I can't wait for the finish of the transfer window and if it means no more outs I would take no more ins. Honestly I don't think my nerves can last much longer. It would be nice to go back to arguing on this site over who should be in the first 11 and who did or did not have a mare last game.
Currently think we're on a par or even a tad above our playing level of last year - so assuming others have strengthened that gives us a realistic hope of around 10th, which would be excellent given the recent turmoil.

Which makes the end of this transfer window pretty vital if we're to realistically push higher, especially when it comes to converting the many chances this team will create. Unfortunately proven goalscorers don't come cheap, especially at the end of transfer windows, and I have a feeling that Shane Long is the nearest we're going to get to a "marque" signing in that area.

This means that our current forward players (and Jay once he's back) have really got to sharpen up pronto. I don't think I can put up with another season of "played them off the park, should have won by 3 or 4, but had to settle for the draw" ... or nowt.
You won't, because Ron is a much better tactician than MOPO, did you see the switching of formation going on up front on Sunday in order to push for the winner / Draw. MOPO plan A, Ron, A,B,C and I think, D as well.
To be fair to MoPo (not that he deserves it), and not to knock Ron, because he is astute, we didn't need a plan B, C or D at Liverpool or for several away games last season because, for the first time I can remember, we went away and bossed possession for the majority of the game.

We didn't in the first half on Sunday and Ron fixed that.

Sorry, just this 'Plan A' cr@p that annoys me. MoPo only had a plan A because he didn't need a plan B or C - the same ethic as employed at Arsenal and Barcelona. Costs them the odd point here and there, but they are happy to give that up to stick to their footballing philosophy.
Absolutely right JD,all we've lacked for a while now is a clinical striker,that's what has cost us the points,not plan A,B,or C,or the lack of top CB's or GK's.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]westfordUSAsaints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint christopher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: Reading between the lines there does seem to be a conduit of information between club and echo again finally. Personally I can't wait for the finish of the transfer window and if it means no more outs I would take no more ins. Honestly I don't think my nerves can last much longer. It would be nice to go back to arguing on this site over who should be in the first 11 and who did or did not have a mare last game.[/p][/quote]Currently think we're on a par or even a tad above our playing level of last year - so assuming others have strengthened that gives us a realistic hope of around 10th, which would be excellent given the recent turmoil. Which makes the end of this transfer window pretty vital if we're to realistically push higher, especially when it comes to converting the many chances this team will create. Unfortunately proven goalscorers don't come cheap, especially at the end of transfer windows, and I have a feeling that Shane Long is the nearest we're going to get to a "marque" signing in that area. This means that our current forward players (and Jay once he's back) have really got to sharpen up pronto. I don't think I can put up with another season of "played them off the park, should have won by 3 or 4, but had to settle for the draw" ... or nowt.[/p][/quote]You won't, because Ron is a much better tactician than MOPO, did you see the switching of formation going on up front on Sunday in order to push for the winner / Draw. MOPO plan A, Ron, A,B,C and I think, D as well.[/p][/quote]To be fair to MoPo (not that he deserves it), and not to knock Ron, because he is astute, we didn't need a plan B, C or D at Liverpool or for several away games last season because, for the first time I can remember, we went away and bossed possession for the majority of the game. We didn't in the first half on Sunday and Ron fixed that. Sorry, just this 'Plan A' cr@p that annoys me. MoPo only had a plan A because he didn't need a plan B or C - the same ethic as employed at Arsenal and Barcelona. Costs them the odd point here and there, but they are happy to give that up to stick to their footballing philosophy.[/p][/quote]Absolutely right JD,all we've lacked for a while now is a clinical striker,that's what has cost us the points,not plan A,B,or C,or the lack of top CB's or GK's. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

3:03pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Chapperall says...

I think we should forget Townsend and walk away and concentrate on other targets. He is not worth the money suggested as he is not a 90 min players and is injury prone. As one other reader said he would spend more time with the pyhsio than his team mates. Perhaps they should try Isgrove up in a wide role as he could fit the bill.
Lastly our biggest mistake was letting Chambers go he would have been the commanding CB that we all crave! How come Wenger saw his potential in thar role and we didn't?
Looking forward to our first 3 points on Saturday
I think we should forget Townsend and walk away and concentrate on other targets. He is not worth the money suggested as he is not a 90 min players and is injury prone. As one other reader said he would spend more time with the pyhsio than his team mates. Perhaps they should try Isgrove up in a wide role as he could fit the bill. Lastly our biggest mistake was letting Chambers go he would have been the commanding CB that we all crave! How come Wenger saw his potential in thar role and we didn't? Looking forward to our first 3 points on Saturday Chapperall
  • Score: 3

3:05pm Thu 21 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Has anyone experienced any problems receiving their season tickets?

I called the club this morning as I had not received them yet and was told I had to send an email to tickets@

So far no response.
Has anyone experienced any problems receiving their season tickets? I called the club this morning as I had not received them yet and was told I had to send an email to tickets@ So far no response. fascia123
  • Score: 1

3:05pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Littleton-Saint says...

Surely, we can do better than Townsend?
Surely, we can do better than Townsend? Littleton-Saint
  • Score: 2

3:06pm Thu 21 Aug 14

just kidding says...

Nice read about Saints on Mirror site.

http://www.mirror.co
.uk/sport/football/n
ews/england-must-fol
low-southampton-purs
uit-4080583
Nice read about Saints on Mirror site. http://www.mirror.co .uk/sport/football/n ews/england-must-fol low-southampton-purs uit-4080583 just kidding
  • Score: 1

3:50pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Paul Lambert squirming when asked about Riise,ha ha,bet he wishes he'd kept his mouth shut about Koeman on Vlaar now.
Paul Lambert squirming when asked about Riise,ha ha,bet he wishes he'd kept his mouth shut about Koeman on Vlaar now. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

3:57pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

SaintJD wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
st.ranger wrote:
Velleity wrote:
For all the people supporting Yoshida, just remember that now that Guly's gone, everything is now Maya's fault.
I aint that impressed by victor, at least yoshie tries hard
Maya's usually a girl's name, Yoshie always is. What are you trying to tell us?
Does that mean Yoshie off Super Mario is a girl? All this time not knowing.
That's Yoshi. Completely different!
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st.ranger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: For all the people supporting Yoshida, just remember that now that Guly's gone, everything is now Maya's fault.[/p][/quote]I aint that impressed by victor, at least yoshie tries hard[/p][/quote]Maya's usually a girl's name, Yoshie always is. What are you trying to tell us?[/p][/quote]Does that mean Yoshie off Super Mario is a girl? All this time not knowing.[/p][/quote]That's Yoshi. Completely different! Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

4:04pm Thu 21 Aug 14

milton road says...

Poch said the weekend that Townsend was part of his plans and where the information he was for sale had come from he did not know. Unless that is hist hype to build up price knowing Townsend is a five minute wonder and we would be better going for Redmond.
Poch said the weekend that Townsend was part of his plans and where the information he was for sale had come from he did not know. Unless that is hist hype to build up price knowing Townsend is a five minute wonder and we would be better going for Redmond. milton road
  • Score: 1

4:05pm Thu 21 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Paul Lambert squirming when asked about Riise,ha ha,bet he wishes he'd kept his mouth shut about Koeman on Vlaar now.
It's all a bit of a joke isn't it? If I had a pound for every time I hear a manager say: 'I don't like to talk about players at other clubs, but he's a good player' blah, vlaar, blah.

On another point - Villa are buying some truly awful journeyman players of late. If you're looking for a club lacking ambition, Villa are it. And having a big capacity or fan base doesn't seem to be making much difference to their ability to attract good players or pay big wages - Newcastle too.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: Paul Lambert squirming when asked about Riise,ha ha,bet he wishes he'd kept his mouth shut about Koeman on Vlaar now.[/p][/quote]It's all a bit of a joke isn't it? If I had a pound for every time I hear a manager say: 'I don't like to talk about players at other clubs, but he's a good player' blah, vlaar, blah. On another point - Villa are buying some truly awful journeyman players of late. If you're looking for a club lacking ambition, Villa are it. And having a big capacity or fan base doesn't seem to be making much difference to their ability to attract good players or pay big wages - Newcastle too. SaintJD
  • Score: 1

4:08pm Thu 21 Aug 14

spratt says...

just kidding wrote:
Nice read about Saints on Mirror site.

http://www.mirror.co

.uk/sport/football/n

ews/england-must-fol

low-southampton-purs

uit-4080583
Very interesting read which begs the question "whoever made the decision to sell Chambers?". He apparently was the best player on the field with Arsenal on the night. Straight into top drawer football. In wider terms it outlines the way our academy players have been so successful and is lavish in its praise. The trouble is these fine players hardly ever stay to benefit US other than by the proceeds of sale. It says that Germany have used the system we have to develop their national side which explains why Hodgson spent so much time at St Marys - which only resulted in us losing top academy products.
[quote][p][bold]just kidding[/bold] wrote: Nice read about Saints on Mirror site. http://www.mirror.co .uk/sport/football/n ews/england-must-fol low-southampton-purs uit-4080583[/p][/quote]Very interesting read which begs the question "whoever made the decision to sell Chambers?". He apparently was the best player on the field with Arsenal on the night. Straight into top drawer football. In wider terms it outlines the way our academy players have been so successful and is lavish in its praise. The trouble is these fine players hardly ever stay to benefit US other than by the proceeds of sale. It says that Germany have used the system we have to develop their national side which explains why Hodgson spent so much time at St Marys - which only resulted in us losing top academy products. spratt
  • Score: -1

4:08pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

fascia123 wrote:
Has anyone experienced any problems receiving their season tickets?

I called the club this morning as I had not received them yet and was told I had to send an email to tickets@

So far no response.
My Liverpool tickets have still not arrived. No joke. Phoned (on Friday) and had to pick up duplicates at Anfield.

Also emailed them about my West Ham tickets because I will only be in So'ton next Saturday and I was worried about not getting them in time. It took a couple of days but I got a helpful response, and then a follow up on Tuesday saying they's been sent off for posting. Fingers crossed they are delivered by Saturday.

Good luck.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: Has anyone experienced any problems receiving their season tickets? I called the club this morning as I had not received them yet and was told I had to send an email to tickets@ So far no response.[/p][/quote]My Liverpool tickets have still not arrived. No joke. Phoned (on Friday) and had to pick up duplicates at Anfield. Also emailed them about my West Ham tickets because I will only be in So'ton next Saturday and I was worried about not getting them in time. It took a couple of days but I got a helpful response, and then a follow up on Tuesday saying they's been sent off for posting. Fingers crossed they are delivered by Saturday. Good luck. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

4:10pm Thu 21 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Daily Echo clearly not fully alert this week - they've missed two glaring opportunities for 'former Saints targets' stories with Ferr and Rojo. Asleep on the job!

Surely one of our former players' relations/close family members/pets/friends has also done something worth at least one headline this week. Disappointed.
Daily Echo clearly not fully alert this week - they've missed two glaring opportunities for 'former Saints targets' stories with Ferr and Rojo. Asleep on the job! Surely one of our former players' relations/close family members/pets/friends has also done something worth at least one headline this week. Disappointed. SaintJD
  • Score: 1

4:15pm Thu 21 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Rising_Son wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Has anyone experienced any problems receiving their season tickets?

I called the club this morning as I had not received them yet and was told I had to send an email to tickets@

So far no response.
My Liverpool tickets have still not arrived. No joke. Phoned (on Friday) and had to pick up duplicates at Anfield.

Also emailed them about my West Ham tickets because I will only be in So'ton next Saturday and I was worried about not getting them in time. It took a couple of days but I got a helpful response, and then a follow up on Tuesday saying they's been sent off for posting. Fingers crossed they are delivered by Saturday.

Good luck.
Thank you
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: Has anyone experienced any problems receiving their season tickets? I called the club this morning as I had not received them yet and was told I had to send an email to tickets@ So far no response.[/p][/quote]My Liverpool tickets have still not arrived. No joke. Phoned (on Friday) and had to pick up duplicates at Anfield. Also emailed them about my West Ham tickets because I will only be in So'ton next Saturday and I was worried about not getting them in time. It took a couple of days but I got a helpful response, and then a follow up on Tuesday saying they's been sent off for posting. Fingers crossed they are delivered by Saturday. Good luck.[/p][/quote]Thank you fascia123
  • Score: 0

4:15pm Thu 21 Aug 14

SwissToni says...

Personally, I don't see any activity until the last day of the transfer window. Until then, we'll just have to put up with the normal level of tosh published by the media and blogs.
Personally, I don't see any activity until the last day of the transfer window. Until then, we'll just have to put up with the normal level of tosh published by the media and blogs. SwissToni
  • Score: 1

5:39pm Thu 21 Aug 14

THE12THMAN says...

saint gee wrote:
THE12THMAN wrote:
Is Townsend worth the money being mentioned? I don't think so, I personally don't think we should do any business with the spuds, Scott Sinclair has got to be better value for money than Townsend and he scores goals.
or even Zaha for united, now that boy could bring some magic to the team.
Yes I expect he would be available for about £7m, Man Utd want rid of him.
[quote][p][bold]saint gee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: Is Townsend worth the money being mentioned? I don't think so, I personally don't think we should do any business with the spuds, Scott Sinclair has got to be better value for money than Townsend and he scores goals.[/p][/quote]or even Zaha for united, now that boy could bring some magic to the team.[/p][/quote]Yes I expect he would be available for about £7m, Man Utd want rid of him. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 5

5:59pm Thu 21 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

spratt wrote:
just kidding wrote:
Nice read about Saints on Mirror site.

http://www.mirror.co


.uk/sport/football/n


ews/england-must-fol


low-southampton-purs


uit-4080583
Very interesting read which begs the question "whoever made the decision to sell Chambers?". He apparently was the best player on the field with Arsenal on the night. Straight into top drawer football. In wider terms it outlines the way our academy players have been so successful and is lavish in its praise. The trouble is these fine players hardly ever stay to benefit US other than by the proceeds of sale. It says that Germany have used the system we have to develop their national side which explains why Hodgson spent so much time at St Marys - which only resulted in us losing top academy products.
perhaps, as les reed said, chambers made the decision to move.
we know NC gave several players deals saying they could leave, and they are the players who had signed new contracts recently, luke signed a new contract last summer = gone(with deal saying he could). dejerk signed last summer = gone (with deal saying he could). liarlanna signed new contract last sumer = gone, chambers signed a new contract last summer = gone, morgan signed new contract a year and a half ago (with gentlemen`s agreement saying he could go). so why would we not believe that chambers, and liarlanna, had a deal saying he could go?
this is not criticism of NC by the way, he did wonders for the club. I do wonder though why he was giving the players deals saying they could go. did he think that they didn't mater because he believed he could convince the players to stay?
[quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]just kidding[/bold] wrote: Nice read about Saints on Mirror site. http://www.mirror.co .uk/sport/football/n ews/england-must-fol low-southampton-purs uit-4080583[/p][/quote]Very interesting read which begs the question "whoever made the decision to sell Chambers?". He apparently was the best player on the field with Arsenal on the night. Straight into top drawer football. In wider terms it outlines the way our academy players have been so successful and is lavish in its praise. The trouble is these fine players hardly ever stay to benefit US other than by the proceeds of sale. It says that Germany have used the system we have to develop their national side which explains why Hodgson spent so much time at St Marys - which only resulted in us losing top academy products.[/p][/quote]perhaps, as les reed said, chambers made the decision to move. we know NC gave several players deals saying they could leave, and they are the players who had signed new contracts recently, luke signed a new contract last summer = gone(with deal saying he could). dejerk signed last summer = gone (with deal saying he could). liarlanna signed new contract last sumer = gone, chambers signed a new contract last summer = gone, morgan signed new contract a year and a half ago (with gentlemen`s agreement saying he could go). so why would we not believe that chambers, and liarlanna, had a deal saying he could go? this is not criticism of NC by the way, he did wonders for the club. I do wonder though why he was giving the players deals saying they could go. did he think that they didn't mater because he believed he could convince the players to stay? de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 0

6:25pm Thu 21 Aug 14

spratt says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
spratt wrote:
just kidding wrote:
Nice read about Saints on Mirror site.

http://www.mirror.co



.uk/sport/football/n



ews/england-must-fol



low-southampton-purs



uit-4080583
Very interesting read which begs the question "whoever made the decision to sell Chambers?". He apparently was the best player on the field with Arsenal on the night. Straight into top drawer football. In wider terms it outlines the way our academy players have been so successful and is lavish in its praise. The trouble is these fine players hardly ever stay to benefit US other than by the proceeds of sale. It says that Germany have used the system we have to develop their national side which explains why Hodgson spent so much time at St Marys - which only resulted in us losing top academy products.
perhaps, as les reed said, chambers made the decision to move.
we know NC gave several players deals saying they could leave, and they are the players who had signed new contracts recently, luke signed a new contract last summer = gone(with deal saying he could). dejerk signed last summer = gone (with deal saying he could). liarlanna signed new contract last sumer = gone, chambers signed a new contract last summer = gone, morgan signed new contract a year and a half ago (with gentlemen`s agreement saying he could go). so why would we not believe that chambers, and liarlanna, had a deal saying he could go?
this is not criticism of NC by the way, he did wonders for the club. I do wonder though why he was giving the players deals saying they could go. did he think that they didn't mater because he believed he could convince the players to stay?
Thanks. You make some interesting points. What is the point though of giving a player a new contract coupled with a promise that they can leave whenever they feel like it? Still - what do I know?
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]just kidding[/bold] wrote: Nice read about Saints on Mirror site. http://www.mirror.co .uk/sport/football/n ews/england-must-fol low-southampton-purs uit-4080583[/p][/quote]Very interesting read which begs the question "whoever made the decision to sell Chambers?". He apparently was the best player on the field with Arsenal on the night. Straight into top drawer football. In wider terms it outlines the way our academy players have been so successful and is lavish in its praise. The trouble is these fine players hardly ever stay to benefit US other than by the proceeds of sale. It says that Germany have used the system we have to develop their national side which explains why Hodgson spent so much time at St Marys - which only resulted in us losing top academy products.[/p][/quote]perhaps, as les reed said, chambers made the decision to move. we know NC gave several players deals saying they could leave, and they are the players who had signed new contracts recently, luke signed a new contract last summer = gone(with deal saying he could). dejerk signed last summer = gone (with deal saying he could). liarlanna signed new contract last sumer = gone, chambers signed a new contract last summer = gone, morgan signed new contract a year and a half ago (with gentlemen`s agreement saying he could go). so why would we not believe that chambers, and liarlanna, had a deal saying he could go? this is not criticism of NC by the way, he did wonders for the club. I do wonder though why he was giving the players deals saying they could go. did he think that they didn't mater because he believed he could convince the players to stay?[/p][/quote]Thanks. You make some interesting points. What is the point though of giving a player a new contract coupled with a promise that they can leave whenever they feel like it? Still - what do I know? spratt
  • Score: 1

6:36pm Thu 21 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

spratt wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
spratt wrote:
just kidding wrote:
Nice read about Saints on Mirror site.

http://www.mirror.co




.uk/sport/football/n




ews/england-must-fol




low-southampton-purs




uit-4080583
Very interesting read which begs the question "whoever made the decision to sell Chambers?". He apparently was the best player on the field with Arsenal on the night. Straight into top drawer football. In wider terms it outlines the way our academy players have been so successful and is lavish in its praise. The trouble is these fine players hardly ever stay to benefit US other than by the proceeds of sale. It says that Germany have used the system we have to develop their national side which explains why Hodgson spent so much time at St Marys - which only resulted in us losing top academy products.
perhaps, as les reed said, chambers made the decision to move.
we know NC gave several players deals saying they could leave, and they are the players who had signed new contracts recently, luke signed a new contract last summer = gone(with deal saying he could). dejerk signed last summer = gone (with deal saying he could). liarlanna signed new contract last sumer = gone, chambers signed a new contract last summer = gone, morgan signed new contract a year and a half ago (with gentlemen`s agreement saying he could go). so why would we not believe that chambers, and liarlanna, had a deal saying he could go?
this is not criticism of NC by the way, he did wonders for the club. I do wonder though why he was giving the players deals saying they could go. did he think that they didn't mater because he believed he could convince the players to stay?
Thanks. You make some interesting points. What is the point though of giving a player a new contract coupled with a promise that they can leave whenever they feel like it? Still - what do I know?
It's no secret I am no fan of NC however the contracts in place must of been reasonably robust or we wouldn't of got the excessive money we did for the players that left what do you think?
[quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]just kidding[/bold] wrote: Nice read about Saints on Mirror site. http://www.mirror.co .uk/sport/football/n ews/england-must-fol low-southampton-purs uit-4080583[/p][/quote]Very interesting read which begs the question "whoever made the decision to sell Chambers?". He apparently was the best player on the field with Arsenal on the night. Straight into top drawer football. In wider terms it outlines the way our academy players have been so successful and is lavish in its praise. The trouble is these fine players hardly ever stay to benefit US other than by the proceeds of sale. It says that Germany have used the system we have to develop their national side which explains why Hodgson spent so much time at St Marys - which only resulted in us losing top academy products.[/p][/quote]perhaps, as les reed said, chambers made the decision to move. we know NC gave several players deals saying they could leave, and they are the players who had signed new contracts recently, luke signed a new contract last summer = gone(with deal saying he could). dejerk signed last summer = gone (with deal saying he could). liarlanna signed new contract last sumer = gone, chambers signed a new contract last summer = gone, morgan signed new contract a year and a half ago (with gentlemen`s agreement saying he could go). so why would we not believe that chambers, and liarlanna, had a deal saying he could go? this is not criticism of NC by the way, he did wonders for the club. I do wonder though why he was giving the players deals saying they could go. did he think that they didn't mater because he believed he could convince the players to stay?[/p][/quote]Thanks. You make some interesting points. What is the point though of giving a player a new contract coupled with a promise that they can leave whenever they feel like it? Still - what do I know?[/p][/quote]It's no secret I am no fan of NC however the contracts in place must of been reasonably robust or we wouldn't of got the excessive money we did for the players that left what do you think? fascia123
  • Score: 2

6:49pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

fascia123 wrote:
spratt wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
spratt wrote:
just kidding wrote:
Nice read about Saints on Mirror site.

http://www.mirror.co





.uk/sport/football/n





ews/england-must-fol





low-southampton-purs





uit-4080583
Very interesting read which begs the question "whoever made the decision to sell Chambers?". He apparently was the best player on the field with Arsenal on the night. Straight into top drawer football. In wider terms it outlines the way our academy players have been so successful and is lavish in its praise. The trouble is these fine players hardly ever stay to benefit US other than by the proceeds of sale. It says that Germany have used the system we have to develop their national side which explains why Hodgson spent so much time at St Marys - which only resulted in us losing top academy products.
perhaps, as les reed said, chambers made the decision to move.
we know NC gave several players deals saying they could leave, and they are the players who had signed new contracts recently, luke signed a new contract last summer = gone(with deal saying he could). dejerk signed last summer = gone (with deal saying he could). liarlanna signed new contract last sumer = gone, chambers signed a new contract last summer = gone, morgan signed new contract a year and a half ago (with gentlemen`s agreement saying he could go). so why would we not believe that chambers, and liarlanna, had a deal saying he could go?
this is not criticism of NC by the way, he did wonders for the club. I do wonder though why he was giving the players deals saying they could go. did he think that they didn't mater because he believed he could convince the players to stay?
Thanks. You make some interesting points. What is the point though of giving a player a new contract coupled with a promise that they can leave whenever they feel like it? Still - what do I know?
It's no secret I am no fan of NC however the contracts in place must of been reasonably robust or we wouldn't of got the excessive money we did for the players that left what do you think?
Coventry City returning to the Richo, it could have all been so much worse for us..what an escape we had!
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]just kidding[/bold] wrote: Nice read about Saints on Mirror site. http://www.mirror.co .uk/sport/football/n ews/england-must-fol low-southampton-purs uit-4080583[/p][/quote]Very interesting read which begs the question "whoever made the decision to sell Chambers?". He apparently was the best player on the field with Arsenal on the night. Straight into top drawer football. In wider terms it outlines the way our academy players have been so successful and is lavish in its praise. The trouble is these fine players hardly ever stay to benefit US other than by the proceeds of sale. It says that Germany have used the system we have to develop their national side which explains why Hodgson spent so much time at St Marys - which only resulted in us losing top academy products.[/p][/quote]perhaps, as les reed said, chambers made the decision to move. we know NC gave several players deals saying they could leave, and they are the players who had signed new contracts recently, luke signed a new contract last summer = gone(with deal saying he could). dejerk signed last summer = gone (with deal saying he could). liarlanna signed new contract last sumer = gone, chambers signed a new contract last summer = gone, morgan signed new contract a year and a half ago (with gentlemen`s agreement saying he could go). so why would we not believe that chambers, and liarlanna, had a deal saying he could go? this is not criticism of NC by the way, he did wonders for the club. I do wonder though why he was giving the players deals saying they could go. did he think that they didn't mater because he believed he could convince the players to stay?[/p][/quote]Thanks. You make some interesting points. What is the point though of giving a player a new contract coupled with a promise that they can leave whenever they feel like it? Still - what do I know?[/p][/quote]It's no secret I am no fan of NC however the contracts in place must of been reasonably robust or we wouldn't of got the excessive money we did for the players that left what do you think?[/p][/quote]Coventry City returning to the Richo, it could have all been so much worse for us..what an escape we had! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

7:06pm Thu 21 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
spratt wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
spratt wrote:
just kidding wrote:
Nice read about Saints on Mirror site.

http://www.mirror.co






.uk/sport/football/n






ews/england-must-fol






low-southampton-purs






uit-4080583
Very interesting read which begs the question "whoever made the decision to sell Chambers?". He apparently was the best player on the field with Arsenal on the night. Straight into top drawer football. In wider terms it outlines the way our academy players have been so successful and is lavish in its praise. The trouble is these fine players hardly ever stay to benefit US other than by the proceeds of sale. It says that Germany have used the system we have to develop their national side which explains why Hodgson spent so much time at St Marys - which only resulted in us losing top academy products.
perhaps, as les reed said, chambers made the decision to move.
we know NC gave several players deals saying they could leave, and they are the players who had signed new contracts recently, luke signed a new contract last summer = gone(with deal saying he could). dejerk signed last summer = gone (with deal saying he could). liarlanna signed new contract last sumer = gone, chambers signed a new contract last summer = gone, morgan signed new contract a year and a half ago (with gentlemen`s agreement saying he could go). so why would we not believe that chambers, and liarlanna, had a deal saying he could go?
this is not criticism of NC by the way, he did wonders for the club. I do wonder though why he was giving the players deals saying they could go. did he think that they didn't mater because he believed he could convince the players to stay?
Thanks. You make some interesting points. What is the point though of giving a player a new contract coupled with a promise that they can leave whenever they feel like it? Still - what do I know?
It's no secret I am no fan of NC however the contracts in place must of been reasonably robust or we wouldn't of got the excessive money we did for the players that left what do you think?
Coventry City returning to the Richo, it could have all been so much worse for us..what an escape we had!
Thank goodness for the Leibherrs
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]just kidding[/bold] wrote: Nice read about Saints on Mirror site. http://www.mirror.co .uk/sport/football/n ews/england-must-fol low-southampton-purs uit-4080583[/p][/quote]Very interesting read which begs the question "whoever made the decision to sell Chambers?". He apparently was the best player on the field with Arsenal on the night. Straight into top drawer football. In wider terms it outlines the way our academy players have been so successful and is lavish in its praise. The trouble is these fine players hardly ever stay to benefit US other than by the proceeds of sale. It says that Germany have used the system we have to develop their national side which explains why Hodgson spent so much time at St Marys - which only resulted in us losing top academy products.[/p][/quote]perhaps, as les reed said, chambers made the decision to move. we know NC gave several players deals saying they could leave, and they are the players who had signed new contracts recently, luke signed a new contract last summer = gone(with deal saying he could). dejerk signed last summer = gone (with deal saying he could). liarlanna signed new contract last sumer = gone, chambers signed a new contract last summer = gone, morgan signed new contract a year and a half ago (with gentlemen`s agreement saying he could go). so why would we not believe that chambers, and liarlanna, had a deal saying he could go? this is not criticism of NC by the way, he did wonders for the club. I do wonder though why he was giving the players deals saying they could go. did he think that they didn't mater because he believed he could convince the players to stay?[/p][/quote]Thanks. You make some interesting points. What is the point though of giving a player a new contract coupled with a promise that they can leave whenever they feel like it? Still - what do I know?[/p][/quote]It's no secret I am no fan of NC however the contracts in place must of been reasonably robust or we wouldn't of got the excessive money we did for the players that left what do you think?[/p][/quote]Coventry City returning to the Richo, it could have all been so much worse for us..what an escape we had![/p][/quote]Thank goodness for the Leibherrs fascia123
  • Score: 3

7:20pm Thu 21 Aug 14

jls217 says...

jls217 wrote:
The youngsters name above is something Nastyarseitch - over to you.

Cut and paste from the same source.

The rumours surrounding Lukas Podolski won't go away until the transfer window closes and even then, if he were still at Arsenal, the reports would turn to having a focus for the winter transfer market. Due to the purchase of Alexis Sanchez, Podolski will find it even harder to get into an Arsenal that he wasn't first choice in anyway.
Arsenal could still be in the market for another forward. There are serious doubts whether Olivier Giroud and Yaya Sanogo are the pair who can fire Arsenal to domestic and European glory and therefore the majority of fans would dearly love to see a world class striker brought in.
Whether that happens or not, the Podolski situation continues to be fragile. His agent has been quoted by Sport Bild in Germany explaining that the player is happy in London, but also confirming strong interest from other clubs in his client.
"There have always been inquiries. Now we have a concrete interest of some teams, but Lukas feels good in London."

Those are the words of Nassim Touihri, who is Podolski's adviser according to the German publication. It's also claimed that Arsenal are willing to sell and would accept a relatively modest fee for the World Cup winner. For an offer in the region of €12m to €14m, it's stated that Podolski would be allowed to leave the Premier League club.
The rumours surrounding Lukas Podolski won't go away until the transfer window closes and even then, if he were still at Arsenal, the reports would turn to having a focus for the winter transfer market. Due to the purchase of Alexis Sanchez, Podolski will find it even harder to get into an Arsenal that he wasn't first choice in anyway.
Arsenal could still be in the market for another forward. There are serious doubts whether Olivier Giroud and Yaya Sanogo are the pair who can fire Arsenal to domestic and European glory and therefore the majority of fans would dearly love to see a world class striker brought in.
Whether that happens or not, the Podolski situation continues to be fragile.
Are the thumbs down because you would not want Podolski?
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: The youngsters name above is something Nastyarseitch - over to you. Cut and paste from the same source. The rumours surrounding Lukas Podolski won't go away until the transfer window closes and even then, if he were still at Arsenal, the reports would turn to having a focus for the winter transfer market. Due to the purchase of Alexis Sanchez, Podolski will find it even harder to get into an Arsenal that he wasn't first choice in anyway. Arsenal could still be in the market for another forward. There are serious doubts whether Olivier Giroud and Yaya Sanogo are the pair who can fire Arsenal to domestic and European glory and therefore the majority of fans would dearly love to see a world class striker brought in. Whether that happens or not, the Podolski situation continues to be fragile. His agent has been quoted by Sport Bild in Germany explaining that the player is happy in London, but also confirming strong interest from other clubs in his client. "There have always been inquiries. Now we have a concrete interest of some teams, but Lukas feels good in London." Those are the words of Nassim Touihri, who is Podolski's adviser according to the German publication. It's also claimed that Arsenal are willing to sell and would accept a relatively modest fee for the World Cup winner. For an offer in the region of €12m to €14m, it's stated that Podolski would be allowed to leave the Premier League club. The rumours surrounding Lukas Podolski won't go away until the transfer window closes and even then, if he were still at Arsenal, the reports would turn to having a focus for the winter transfer market. Due to the purchase of Alexis Sanchez, Podolski will find it even harder to get into an Arsenal that he wasn't first choice in anyway. Arsenal could still be in the market for another forward. There are serious doubts whether Olivier Giroud and Yaya Sanogo are the pair who can fire Arsenal to domestic and European glory and therefore the majority of fans would dearly love to see a world class striker brought in. Whether that happens or not, the Podolski situation continues to be fragile.[/p][/quote]Are the thumbs down because you would not want Podolski? jls217
  • Score: 0

7:47pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Littleton-Saint wrote:
Surely, we can do better than Townsend?
DO better? We already HAVE better ..... Isgrove, Rowe .......
[quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: Surely, we can do better than Townsend?[/p][/quote]DO better? We already HAVE better ..... Isgrove, Rowe ....... Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 1

8:51pm Thu 21 Aug 14

buckeroo says...

Wait till jay rod comes back, we will have a cracking team.andros would be good for the likes of pelle, if you watch him on you tube he poached a lot of goals from wingers crosses
Wait till jay rod comes back, we will have a cracking team.andros would be good for the likes of pelle, if you watch him on you tube he poached a lot of goals from wingers crosses buckeroo
  • Score: 1

9:10pm Thu 21 Aug 14

one in the crowd says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
spratt wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
spratt wrote:
just kidding wrote:
Nice read about Saints on Mirror site.

http://www.mirror.co






.uk/sport/football/n






ews/england-must-fol






low-southampton-purs






uit-4080583
Very interesting read which begs the question "whoever made the decision to sell Chambers?". He apparently was the best player on the field with Arsenal on the night. Straight into top drawer football. In wider terms it outlines the way our academy players have been so successful and is lavish in its praise. The trouble is these fine players hardly ever stay to benefit US other than by the proceeds of sale. It says that Germany have used the system we have to develop their national side which explains why Hodgson spent so much time at St Marys - which only resulted in us losing top academy products.
perhaps, as les reed said, chambers made the decision to move.
we know NC gave several players deals saying they could leave, and they are the players who had signed new contracts recently, luke signed a new contract last summer = gone(with deal saying he could). dejerk signed last summer = gone (with deal saying he could). liarlanna signed new contract last sumer = gone, chambers signed a new contract last summer = gone, morgan signed new contract a year and a half ago (with gentlemen`s agreement saying he could go). so why would we not believe that chambers, and liarlanna, had a deal saying he could go?
this is not criticism of NC by the way, he did wonders for the club. I do wonder though why he was giving the players deals saying they could go. did he think that they didn't mater because he believed he could convince the players to stay?
Thanks. You make some interesting points. What is the point though of giving a player a new contract coupled with a promise that they can leave whenever they feel like it? Still - what do I know?
It's no secret I am no fan of NC however the contracts in place must of been reasonably robust or we wouldn't of got the excessive money we did for the players that left what do you think?
Coventry City returning to the Richo, it could have all been so much worse for us..what an escape we had!
You'll run out of time in this transfer window before you fill the vacant spaces in your team. Your incompetent board seem incapable of negotiating with other clubs. They seem to be interested in loan players but getting them to take on classy players will mean that they will have to part with quite a bit of real cash.

You say " it could have all been so much worse for us..what an escape we had ! " . The season has only just started and you've lost the first match , lets see where you are at Christmas before one rejoices that you had a lucky escape , only fate knows where you'll be at the end of the season ?
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]just kidding[/bold] wrote: Nice read about Saints on Mirror site. http://www.mirror.co .uk/sport/football/n ews/england-must-fol low-southampton-purs uit-4080583[/p][/quote]Very interesting read which begs the question "whoever made the decision to sell Chambers?". He apparently was the best player on the field with Arsenal on the night. Straight into top drawer football. In wider terms it outlines the way our academy players have been so successful and is lavish in its praise. The trouble is these fine players hardly ever stay to benefit US other than by the proceeds of sale. It says that Germany have used the system we have to develop their national side which explains why Hodgson spent so much time at St Marys - which only resulted in us losing top academy products.[/p][/quote]perhaps, as les reed said, chambers made the decision to move. we know NC gave several players deals saying they could leave, and they are the players who had signed new contracts recently, luke signed a new contract last summer = gone(with deal saying he could). dejerk signed last summer = gone (with deal saying he could). liarlanna signed new contract last sumer = gone, chambers signed a new contract last summer = gone, morgan signed new contract a year and a half ago (with gentlemen`s agreement saying he could go). so why would we not believe that chambers, and liarlanna, had a deal saying he could go? this is not criticism of NC by the way, he did wonders for the club. I do wonder though why he was giving the players deals saying they could go. did he think that they didn't mater because he believed he could convince the players to stay?[/p][/quote]Thanks. You make some interesting points. What is the point though of giving a player a new contract coupled with a promise that they can leave whenever they feel like it? Still - what do I know?[/p][/quote]It's no secret I am no fan of NC however the contracts in place must of been reasonably robust or we wouldn't of got the excessive money we did for the players that left what do you think?[/p][/quote]Coventry City returning to the Richo, it could have all been so much worse for us..what an escape we had![/p][/quote]You'll run out of time in this transfer window before you fill the vacant spaces in your team. Your incompetent board seem incapable of negotiating with other clubs. They seem to be interested in loan players but getting them to take on classy players will mean that they will have to part with quite a bit of real cash. You say " it could have all been so much worse for us..what an escape we had ! " . The season has only just started and you've lost the first match , lets see where you are at Christmas before one rejoices that you had a lucky escape , only fate knows where you'll be at the end of the season ? one in the crowd
  • Score: -2

9:21pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

one in the crowd wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
spratt wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
spratt wrote:
just kidding wrote:
Nice read about Saints on Mirror site.

http://www.mirror.co







.uk/sport/football/n







ews/england-must-fol







low-southampton-purs







uit-4080583
Very interesting read which begs the question "whoever made the decision to sell Chambers?". He apparently was the best player on the field with Arsenal on the night. Straight into top drawer football. In wider terms it outlines the way our academy players have been so successful and is lavish in its praise. The trouble is these fine players hardly ever stay to benefit US other than by the proceeds of sale. It says that Germany have used the system we have to develop their national side which explains why Hodgson spent so much time at St Marys - which only resulted in us losing top academy products.
perhaps, as les reed said, chambers made the decision to move.
we know NC gave several players deals saying they could leave, and they are the players who had signed new contracts recently, luke signed a new contract last summer = gone(with deal saying he could). dejerk signed last summer = gone (with deal saying he could). liarlanna signed new contract last sumer = gone, chambers signed a new contract last summer = gone, morgan signed new contract a year and a half ago (with gentlemen`s agreement saying he could go). so why would we not believe that chambers, and liarlanna, had a deal saying he could go?
this is not criticism of NC by the way, he did wonders for the club. I do wonder though why he was giving the players deals saying they could go. did he think that they didn't mater because he believed he could convince the players to stay?
Thanks. You make some interesting points. What is the point though of giving a player a new contract coupled with a promise that they can leave whenever they feel like it? Still - what do I know?
It's no secret I am no fan of NC however the contracts in place must of been reasonably robust or we wouldn't of got the excessive money we did for the players that left what do you think?
Coventry City returning to the Richo, it could have all been so much worse for us..what an escape we had!
You'll run out of time in this transfer window before you fill the vacant spaces in your team. Your incompetent board seem incapable of negotiating with other clubs. They seem to be interested in loan players but getting them to take on classy players will mean that they will have to part with quite a bit of real cash.

You say " it could have all been so much worse for us..what an escape we had ! " . The season has only just started and you've lost the first match , lets see where you are at Christmas before one rejoices that you had a lucky escape , only fate knows where you'll be at the end of the season ?
Have you forgotten to take your medication today Search?
[quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]just kidding[/bold] wrote: Nice read about Saints on Mirror site. http://www.mirror.co .uk/sport/football/n ews/england-must-fol low-southampton-purs uit-4080583[/p][/quote]Very interesting read which begs the question "whoever made the decision to sell Chambers?". He apparently was the best player on the field with Arsenal on the night. Straight into top drawer football. In wider terms it outlines the way our academy players have been so successful and is lavish in its praise. The trouble is these fine players hardly ever stay to benefit US other than by the proceeds of sale. It says that Germany have used the system we have to develop their national side which explains why Hodgson spent so much time at St Marys - which only resulted in us losing top academy products.[/p][/quote]perhaps, as les reed said, chambers made the decision to move. we know NC gave several players deals saying they could leave, and they are the players who had signed new contracts recently, luke signed a new contract last summer = gone(with deal saying he could). dejerk signed last summer = gone (with deal saying he could). liarlanna signed new contract last sumer = gone, chambers signed a new contract last summer = gone, morgan signed new contract a year and a half ago (with gentlemen`s agreement saying he could go). so why would we not believe that chambers, and liarlanna, had a deal saying he could go? this is not criticism of NC by the way, he did wonders for the club. I do wonder though why he was giving the players deals saying they could go. did he think that they didn't mater because he believed he could convince the players to stay?[/p][/quote]Thanks. You make some interesting points. What is the point though of giving a player a new contract coupled with a promise that they can leave whenever they feel like it? Still - what do I know?[/p][/quote]It's no secret I am no fan of NC however the contracts in place must of been reasonably robust or we wouldn't of got the excessive money we did for the players that left what do you think?[/p][/quote]Coventry City returning to the Richo, it could have all been so much worse for us..what an escape we had![/p][/quote]You'll run out of time in this transfer window before you fill the vacant spaces in your team. Your incompetent board seem incapable of negotiating with other clubs. They seem to be interested in loan players but getting them to take on classy players will mean that they will have to part with quite a bit of real cash. You say " it could have all been so much worse for us..what an escape we had ! " . The season has only just started and you've lost the first match , lets see where you are at Christmas before one rejoices that you had a lucky escape , only fate knows where you'll be at the end of the season ?[/p][/quote]Have you forgotten to take your medication today Search? Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

9:43pm Thu 21 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

buckeroo wrote:
Wait till jay rod comes back, we will have a cracking team.andros would be good for the likes of pelle, if you watch him on you tube he poached a lot of goals from wingers crosses
Strong on crosses good in the air, agree would benifit from a winger, we had a guy who came from Blackburn years ago who would fit in with Pelle, what was his name?
[quote][p][bold]buckeroo[/bold] wrote: Wait till jay rod comes back, we will have a cracking team.andros would be good for the likes of pelle, if you watch him on you tube he poached a lot of goals from wingers crosses[/p][/quote]Strong on crosses good in the air, agree would benifit from a winger, we had a guy who came from Blackburn years ago who would fit in with Pelle, what was his name? fascia123
  • Score: 1

11:19pm Thu 21 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

fascia123 wrote:
spratt wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
spratt wrote:
just kidding wrote:
Nice read about Saints on Mirror site.

http://www.mirror.co





.uk/sport/football/n





ews/england-must-fol





low-southampton-purs





uit-4080583
Very interesting read which begs the question "whoever made the decision to sell Chambers?". He apparently was the best player on the field with Arsenal on the night. Straight into top drawer football. In wider terms it outlines the way our academy players have been so successful and is lavish in its praise. The trouble is these fine players hardly ever stay to benefit US other than by the proceeds of sale. It says that Germany have used the system we have to develop their national side which explains why Hodgson spent so much time at St Marys - which only resulted in us losing top academy products.
perhaps, as les reed said, chambers made the decision to move.
we know NC gave several players deals saying they could leave, and they are the players who had signed new contracts recently, luke signed a new contract last summer = gone(with deal saying he could). dejerk signed last summer = gone (with deal saying he could). liarlanna signed new contract last sumer = gone, chambers signed a new contract last summer = gone, morgan signed new contract a year and a half ago (with gentlemen`s agreement saying he could go). so why would we not believe that chambers, and liarlanna, had a deal saying he could go?
this is not criticism of NC by the way, he did wonders for the club. I do wonder though why he was giving the players deals saying they could go. did he think that they didn't mater because he believed he could convince the players to stay?
Thanks. You make some interesting points. What is the point though of giving a player a new contract coupled with a promise that they can leave whenever they feel like it? Still - what do I know?
It's no secret I am no fan of NC however the contracts in place must of been reasonably robust or we wouldn't of got the excessive money we did for the players that left what do you think?
contracts don't mean that much in football anymore, however if we use luke as an example. if he had wanted out last year, and its rumoured he did, nc could have offered him a deal that allowed him a move after a year, for the right price, if he signed a 5yr deal. the 5yrs gives the club a better chance of getting a big fee and luke knows if he plays well he has a better than average chance of being picked up by a `big` club on bigger wages.
I`m no expert on these things, obviously, but deals like this would have been thrashed out by agents and the club and their lawyers.
spider says he had a gentlemen`s agreement, perhaps lukes and dejerks deals (and the others if they had them) were set into the contracts whilst spiders wasn't, maybe spider took NC at his word and is annoyed now because the new chairman doesn't think he has to honour that deal.
again I don't know but maybe the players had release clauses in their contracts? NC`s mouthpiece at the BBC, ben smith, told us that NC had to get liarlanna and rickie to convince luke to give it another year, so wouldn't lukes agent or luke ask for a release clause to be inserted?
still whats happened has happened and I think its time to leave it in the past and concentrate on supporting the greatest team in the world.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]just kidding[/bold] wrote: Nice read about Saints on Mirror site. http://www.mirror.co .uk/sport/football/n ews/england-must-fol low-southampton-purs uit-4080583[/p][/quote]Very interesting read which begs the question "whoever made the decision to sell Chambers?". He apparently was the best player on the field with Arsenal on the night. Straight into top drawer football. In wider terms it outlines the way our academy players have been so successful and is lavish in its praise. The trouble is these fine players hardly ever stay to benefit US other than by the proceeds of sale. It says that Germany have used the system we have to develop their national side which explains why Hodgson spent so much time at St Marys - which only resulted in us losing top academy products.[/p][/quote]perhaps, as les reed said, chambers made the decision to move. we know NC gave several players deals saying they could leave, and they are the players who had signed new contracts recently, luke signed a new contract last summer = gone(with deal saying he could). dejerk signed last summer = gone (with deal saying he could). liarlanna signed new contract last sumer = gone, chambers signed a new contract last summer = gone, morgan signed new contract a year and a half ago (with gentlemen`s agreement saying he could go). so why would we not believe that chambers, and liarlanna, had a deal saying he could go? this is not criticism of NC by the way, he did wonders for the club. I do wonder though why he was giving the players deals saying they could go. did he think that they didn't mater because he believed he could convince the players to stay?[/p][/quote]Thanks. You make some interesting points. What is the point though of giving a player a new contract coupled with a promise that they can leave whenever they feel like it? Still - what do I know?[/p][/quote]It's no secret I am no fan of NC however the contracts in place must of been reasonably robust or we wouldn't of got the excessive money we did for the players that left what do you think?[/p][/quote]contracts don't mean that much in football anymore, however if we use luke as an example. if he had wanted out last year, and its rumoured he did, nc could have offered him a deal that allowed him a move after a year, for the right price, if he signed a 5yr deal. the 5yrs gives the club a better chance of getting a big fee and luke knows if he plays well he has a better than average chance of being picked up by a `big` club on bigger wages. I`m no expert on these things, obviously, but deals like this would have been thrashed out by agents and the club and their lawyers. spider says he had a gentlemen`s agreement, perhaps lukes and dejerks deals (and the others if they had them) were set into the contracts whilst spiders wasn't, maybe spider took NC at his word and is annoyed now because the new chairman doesn't think he has to honour that deal. again I don't know but maybe the players had release clauses in their contracts? NC`s mouthpiece at the BBC, ben smith, told us that NC had to get liarlanna and rickie to convince luke to give it another year, so wouldn't lukes agent or luke ask for a release clause to be inserted? still whats happened has happened and I think its time to leave it in the past and concentrate on supporting the greatest team in the world. de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 0

11:54pm Thu 21 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
one in the crowd wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
spratt wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
spratt wrote:
just kidding wrote:
Nice read about Saints on Mirror site.

http://www.mirror.co








.uk/sport/football/n








ews/england-must-fol








low-southampton-purs








uit-4080583
Very interesting read which begs the question "whoever made the decision to sell Chambers?". He apparently was the best player on the field with Arsenal on the night. Straight into top drawer football. In wider terms it outlines the way our academy players have been so successful and is lavish in its praise. The trouble is these fine players hardly ever stay to benefit US other than by the proceeds of sale. It says that Germany have used the system we have to develop their national side which explains why Hodgson spent so much time at St Marys - which only resulted in us losing top academy products.
perhaps, as les reed said, chambers made the decision to move.
we know NC gave several players deals saying they could leave, and they are the players who had signed new contracts recently, luke signed a new contract last summer = gone(with deal saying he could). dejerk signed last summer = gone (with deal saying he could). liarlanna signed new contract last sumer = gone, chambers signed a new contract last summer = gone, morgan signed new contract a year and a half ago (with gentlemen`s agreement saying he could go). so why would we not believe that chambers, and liarlanna, had a deal saying he could go?
this is not criticism of NC by the way, he did wonders for the club. I do wonder though why he was giving the players deals saying they could go. did he think that they didn't mater because he believed he could convince the players to stay?
Thanks. You make some interesting points. What is the point though of giving a player a new contract coupled with a promise that they can leave whenever they feel like it? Still - what do I know?
It's no secret I am no fan of NC however the contracts in place must of been reasonably robust or we wouldn't of got the excessive money we did for the players that left what do you think?
Coventry City returning to the Richo, it could have all been so much worse for us..what an escape we had!
You'll run out of time in this transfer window before you fill the vacant spaces in your team. Your incompetent board seem incapable of negotiating with other clubs. They seem to be interested in loan players but getting them to take on classy players will mean that they will have to part with quite a bit of real cash.

You say " it could have all been so much worse for us..what an escape we had ! " . The season has only just started and you've lost the first match , lets see where you are at Christmas before one rejoices that you had a lucky escape , only fate knows where you'll be at the end of the season ?
Have you forgotten to take your medication today Search?
ignore the idiot mate, pretends to be a liverhampton fan when we all know its a filthy fish fiddler whos just after a it of attention.
why its so interested in saints I will never know, why its bothered about our board is beyond me! even if it was a liverhampton fan, and its not, wouldn't it be more interested in manure or everton, or even about its own team and the signing of the mad one?
no its just a little fishy that thinks hes being all clever and funning, but as everyone knows little fish should be thrown back!
it wouldn't surprise me if this was our old friend kenty141! he had a habit of pretending to be a saints fan so perhaps hes realised that it was easy to catch him out as a saints fan and thinks it might be harder to catch him out as a liverhampton fan.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]just kidding[/bold] wrote: Nice read about Saints on Mirror site. http://www.mirror.co .uk/sport/football/n ews/england-must-fol low-southampton-purs uit-4080583[/p][/quote]Very interesting read which begs the question "whoever made the decision to sell Chambers?". He apparently was the best player on the field with Arsenal on the night. Straight into top drawer football. In wider terms it outlines the way our academy players have been so successful and is lavish in its praise. The trouble is these fine players hardly ever stay to benefit US other than by the proceeds of sale. It says that Germany have used the system we have to develop their national side which explains why Hodgson spent so much time at St Marys - which only resulted in us losing top academy products.[/p][/quote]perhaps, as les reed said, chambers made the decision to move. we know NC gave several players deals saying they could leave, and they are the players who had signed new contracts recently, luke signed a new contract last summer = gone(with deal saying he could). dejerk signed last summer = gone (with deal saying he could). liarlanna signed new contract last sumer = gone, chambers signed a new contract last summer = gone, morgan signed new contract a year and a half ago (with gentlemen`s agreement saying he could go). so why would we not believe that chambers, and liarlanna, had a deal saying he could go? this is not criticism of NC by the way, he did wonders for the club. I do wonder though why he was giving the players deals saying they could go. did he think that they didn't mater because he believed he could convince the players to stay?[/p][/quote]Thanks. You make some interesting points. What is the point though of giving a player a new contract coupled with a promise that they can leave whenever they feel like it? Still - what do I know?[/p][/quote]It's no secret I am no fan of NC however the contracts in place must of been reasonably robust or we wouldn't of got the excessive money we did for the players that left what do you think?[/p][/quote]Coventry City returning to the Richo, it could have all been so much worse for us..what an escape we had![/p][/quote]You'll run out of time in this transfer window before you fill the vacant spaces in your team. Your incompetent board seem incapable of negotiating with other clubs. They seem to be interested in loan players but getting them to take on classy players will mean that they will have to part with quite a bit of real cash. You say " it could have all been so much worse for us..what an escape we had ! " . The season has only just started and you've lost the first match , lets see where you are at Christmas before one rejoices that you had a lucky escape , only fate knows where you'll be at the end of the season ?[/p][/quote]Have you forgotten to take your medication today Search?[/p][/quote]ignore the idiot mate, pretends to be a liverhampton fan when we all know its a filthy fish fiddler whos just after a it of attention. why its so interested in saints I will never know, why its bothered about our board is beyond me! even if it was a liverhampton fan, and its not, wouldn't it be more interested in manure or everton, or even about its own team and the signing of the mad one? no its just a little fishy that thinks hes being all clever and funning, but as everyone knows little fish should be thrown back! it wouldn't surprise me if this was our old friend kenty141! he had a habit of pretending to be a saints fan so perhaps hes realised that it was easy to catch him out as a saints fan and thinks it might be harder to catch him out as a liverhampton fan. de Heiligen paard 101
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Positively4thStreet wrote:
one in the crowd wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
spratt wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
spratt wrote:
just kidding wrote:
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Very interesting read which begs the question "whoever made the decision to sell Chambers?". He apparently was the best player on the field with Arsenal on the night. Straight into top drawer football. In wider terms it outlines the way our academy players have been so successful and is lavish in its praise. The trouble is these fine players hardly ever stay to benefit US other than by the proceeds of sale. It says that Germany have used the system we have to develop their national side which explains why Hodgson spent so much time at St Marys - which only resulted in us losing top academy products.
perhaps, as les reed said, chambers made the decision to move.
we know NC gave several players deals saying they could leave, and they are the players who had signed new contracts recently, luke signed a new contract last summer = gone(with deal saying he could). dejerk signed last summer = gone (with deal saying he could). liarlanna signed new contract last sumer = gone, chambers signed a new contract last summer = gone, morgan signed new contract a year and a half ago (with gentlemen`s agreement saying he could go). so why would we not believe that chambers, and liarlanna, had a deal saying he could go?
this is not criticism of NC by the way, he did wonders for the club. I do wonder though why he was giving the players deals saying they could go. did he think that they didn't mater because he believed he could convince the players to stay?
Thanks. You make some interesting points. What is the point though of giving a player a new contract coupled with a promise that they can leave whenever they feel like it? Still - what do I know?
It's no secret I am no fan of NC however the contracts in place must of been reasonably robust or we wouldn't of got the excessive money we did for the players that left what do you think?
Coventry City returning to the Richo, it could have all been so much worse for us..what an escape we had!
You'll run out of time in this transfer window before you fill the vacant spaces in your team. Your incompetent board seem incapable of negotiating with other clubs. They seem to be interested in loan players but getting them to take on classy players will mean that they will have to part with quite a bit of real cash.

You say " it could have all been so much worse for us..what an escape we had ! " . The season has only just started and you've lost the first match , lets see where you are at Christmas before one rejoices that you had a lucky escape , only fate knows where you'll be at the end of the season ?
Have you forgotten to take your medication today Search?
Since posting my comment earlier, your team appears to have lost its old goalie , so your now back to the situation you had last season of not having backup where it is needed.

Says a lot about the inept management style at Saints, a club that cannot get its act together, so god only knows where you'll be at the end of a long hard season !
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]just kidding[/bold] wrote: Nice read about Saints on Mirror site. http://www.mirror.co .uk/sport/football/n ews/england-must-fol low-southampton-purs uit-4080583[/p][/quote]Very interesting read which begs the question "whoever made the decision to sell Chambers?". He apparently was the best player on the field with Arsenal on the night. Straight into top drawer football. In wider terms it outlines the way our academy players have been so successful and is lavish in its praise. The trouble is these fine players hardly ever stay to benefit US other than by the proceeds of sale. It says that Germany have used the system we have to develop their national side which explains why Hodgson spent so much time at St Marys - which only resulted in us losing top academy products.[/p][/quote]perhaps, as les reed said, chambers made the decision to move. we know NC gave several players deals saying they could leave, and they are the players who had signed new contracts recently, luke signed a new contract last summer = gone(with deal saying he could). dejerk signed last summer = gone (with deal saying he could). liarlanna signed new contract last sumer = gone, chambers signed a new contract last summer = gone, morgan signed new contract a year and a half ago (with gentlemen`s agreement saying he could go). so why would we not believe that chambers, and liarlanna, had a deal saying he could go? this is not criticism of NC by the way, he did wonders for the club. I do wonder though why he was giving the players deals saying they could go. did he think that they didn't mater because he believed he could convince the players to stay?[/p][/quote]Thanks. You make some interesting points. What is the point though of giving a player a new contract coupled with a promise that they can leave whenever they feel like it? Still - what do I know?[/p][/quote]It's no secret I am no fan of NC however the contracts in place must of been reasonably robust or we wouldn't of got the excessive money we did for the players that left what do you think?[/p][/quote]Coventry City returning to the Richo, it could have all been so much worse for us..what an escape we had![/p][/quote]You'll run out of time in this transfer window before you fill the vacant spaces in your team. Your incompetent board seem incapable of negotiating with other clubs. They seem to be interested in loan players but getting them to take on classy players will mean that they will have to part with quite a bit of real cash. You say " it could have all been so much worse for us..what an escape we had ! " . The season has only just started and you've lost the first match , lets see where you are at Christmas before one rejoices that you had a lucky escape , only fate knows where you'll be at the end of the season ?[/p][/quote]Have you forgotten to take your medication today Search?[/p][/quote]Since posting my comment earlier, your team appears to have lost its old goalie , so your now back to the situation you had last season of not having backup where it is needed. Says a lot about the inept management style at Saints, a club that cannot get its act together, so god only knows where you'll be at the end of a long hard season ! one in the crowd
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