Rickie Lambert backing Saints for good Premier League season

RICKIE LAMBERT

RICKIE LAMBERT

First published in Sport Basingstoke Gazette: Photograph of the Author by , Senior Sports Reporter

Rickie Lambert admitted that Saints’ performance at Anfield has erased any doubts he had about how his former club would do this season.

The striker came on as a late substitute against his old side on Sunday, as his new team, Liverpool, snuck a 2-1 opening-day win.

The scoreline did not do Saints’ display justice, however, with Ronald Koeman’s men unfortunate not to have earned at least a point.

Lambert confessed that, following a summer of upheaval that saw a number of first-team stars – including himself – leave St Mary’s, he was unsure of the club’s prospects this season.

But, having seen them up close, he now expects them to have a good campaign.

“Like everyone, I wasn’t too sure,” he told the Daily Echo.

“I speak to the lads on a regular basis and they’ve got nothing but praise for the new manager in charge, but until you see them you’re not really sure.

“But, after what I’ve seen, I think they’re going to be just fine.

“If they can carry on that performance in the next few games they’re going to pick up some points.”

Lambert added: “I’m not just saying it – I was very impressed. I thought Southampton were excellent.

“They grew in the game and I thought second half they were putting us under pressure and were unlucky to not go 2-1 up maybe.”

Lambert confessed it had been an odd experience to play against the team he served with such distinction for five seasons.

“It was strange to come on against your old teammates and against your old club,” said the 32-year-old.

“Obviously, I had an objective in my mind and I had a job, and I acted professional, but it was a bit weird.

“I haven’t had many situations like that in my career, but you just try and be as professional as you can.

“The main objective was to try and get a goal. That was the main thing going through my head.

“But it was weird, especially sitting next to Kelvin (Davis) in the dugout, and seeing the lads again. It was nice seeing everyone.”

Lambert also explained that he was touched by the reception he received from the travelling Saints fans, who cheered his name before kick-off, as well as when he was brought on, and applauded him off after the match.

“Obviously, it was special from the Liverpool fans, making my debut – my dream – and it was special from the Southampton fans,” he said.

“I thought they showed a lot of respect to me and appreciation and I really appreciate that.

“I tried to show it back when I left the pitch. I’ve got nothing but respect for Southampton, and the fans especially.”

Unlike Lambert, there was a frosty reception from the Saints supporters for Dejan Lovren, who left for Liverpool in a £20m deal this summer and who started Sunday’s match.

The centre half was booed throughout by the visiting fans, who remain unhappy at some of the comments he publicly made while the Reds were trying to sign him.

In a separate interview, Lambert expressed some surprise that the anger was directed at players such as Lovren, and not more on the club’s board, although it is doubtful they will share his view that they have escaped without criticism.

“A few of the players who have left have took a bit of stick and they’ll take it – that’s football,” he said.

“It’s been surprising that it’s all been the players and none on the owners.”

Lambert added: “There’s obviously a reason why the gaffer (Mauricio Pochettino) went and I think that was the moment that I think it became clear to the players what the ambition of the club was going to be.”

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5:25am Tue 19 Aug 14

saintsfan76 says...

Nothing but praise and respect for the way Ricky has handled himself and the situation of the past few months as he realised his dream and handled with obvious respect to his former and new employers the realisation of a dream but the way it had come about and what he had achieved in that time getting to that point. Lovren on the other hand is a mere journeyman with no such respect for his former employers or their fans. That is why he booed throughout. Adam had he played i think would have had a reception somewhere between the two because at the time of his leaving he did not show the public respect to the club and the fans he left behind. The fact he took out a full page advert acted like an afterthought to many of us. As for Sundays performance by the "new" Saints i have not but praise and optimism for the coming season especially after a few tweaks and maybe new players in the next couple of weeks. Unlucky as Rickie says not to grab a draw on Sunday.
Nothing but praise and respect for the way Ricky has handled himself and the situation of the past few months as he realised his dream and handled with obvious respect to his former and new employers the realisation of a dream but the way it had come about and what he had achieved in that time getting to that point. Lovren on the other hand is a mere journeyman with no such respect for his former employers or their fans. That is why he booed throughout. Adam had he played i think would have had a reception somewhere between the two because at the time of his leaving he did not show the public respect to the club and the fans he left behind. The fact he took out a full page advert acted like an afterthought to many of us. As for Sundays performance by the "new" Saints i have not but praise and optimism for the coming season especially after a few tweaks and maybe new players in the next couple of weeks. Unlucky as Rickie says not to grab a draw on Sunday. saintsfan76
  • Score: 65

6:12am Tue 19 Aug 14

SOLENTDRIFTER says...

And Say So All Of Us......
And Say So All Of Us...... SOLENTDRIFTER
  • Score: 18

6:56am Tue 19 Aug 14

milton road says...

If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but
Thank you
If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but Thank you milton road
  • Score: 67

7:00am Tue 19 Aug 14

justaSaintsfan says...

There are 37 more Premier League matches to go this season, during which we shall see the result of the ambition of SFC and the quality of Ronald Koeman, his coaching staff and the quality of our players.

I respect Rickie's well intentioned words, but right now our club has a new regime and the jury is still out. The signs are, however, that so far Saint Markus's legacy to SFC is still in safe hands and that we might well have yet another strong season. Saints made Liverhampton look ordinary and were very unfortunate to leave Anfield without any points. I think the quality of our play was good and that it will improve.

Up the Saints!!!
There are 37 more Premier League matches to go this season, during which we shall see the result of the ambition of SFC and the quality of Ronald Koeman, his coaching staff and the quality of our players. I respect Rickie's well intentioned words, but right now our club has a new regime and the jury is still out. The signs are, however, that so far Saint Markus's legacy to SFC is still in safe hands and that we might well have yet another strong season. Saints made Liverhampton look ordinary and were very unfortunate to leave Anfield without any points. I think the quality of our play was good and that it will improve. Up the Saints!!! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: 43

7:13am Tue 19 Aug 14

InsideOutCat says...

Pochettino is nothing like the manager Koeman is, but SRL (like most of the other leavers) was a member of his favoured dressing-room clique.
We'll never forget the huge part Rickie played in the (Liebherr funded) rise from the ashes but it's naïve (or possibly malicious) journalism to print his opinions of the board and owner when they are so coloured in favour of the defunct regime.
Pochettino is nothing like the manager Koeman is, but SRL (like most of the other leavers) was a member of his favoured dressing-room clique. We'll never forget the huge part Rickie played in the (Liebherr funded) rise from the ashes but it's naïve (or possibly malicious) journalism to print his opinions of the board and owner when they are so coloured in favour of the defunct regime. InsideOutCat
  • Score: 68

7:20am Tue 19 Aug 14

InsideOutCat says...

milton road wrote:
If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but
Thank you
What else do you expect from The Grauniad? A bunch of middle aged liberals trying too hard to get "down wiv da kids". Still, at least the pseudo "Dutch" accent conceals their usual list of mis-spelling and typos.
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but Thank you[/p][/quote]What else do you expect from The Grauniad? A bunch of middle aged liberals trying too hard to get "down wiv da kids". Still, at least the pseudo "Dutch" accent conceals their usual list of mis-spelling and typos. InsideOutCat
  • Score: 23

7:23am Tue 19 Aug 14

lastminmoran says...

RICKIE-a good old-fashioned saints hero,up with all the legends in my book.! when he scored against scotland,.....well i havn't felt like that since i was a kid!!the fact that passed the age of 30 he's gone up to live his dream puts him up with Big Ron for me, AND FOR THE ENGLAND MANAGER TO FORGET HIM IN BRAZIL WAS HIS BIGGEST MISTAKE! RICKIE LAMBERT IS A WINNER! AND A SUPERB ROLE MODEL.
RICKIE-a good old-fashioned saints hero,up with all the legends in my book.! when he scored against scotland,.....well i havn't felt like that since i was a kid!!the fact that passed the age of 30 he's gone up to live his dream puts him up with Big Ron for me, AND FOR THE ENGLAND MANAGER TO FORGET HIM IN BRAZIL WAS HIS BIGGEST MISTAKE! RICKIE LAMBERT IS A WINNER! AND A SUPERB ROLE MODEL. lastminmoran
  • Score: 31

7:26am Tue 19 Aug 14

InCortesewetrust says...

How is it the Southampton board's fault that lovren head was lost at Liverpool or that lallana's toy's fell out his pram and refused to play for them? Or that man utd offered a ridiculous £27 million for a 18 year old stubby right back?, did anyone see lovren at kick off? He must of been all aquiver with emotions must of had a big lump in thoght, I'm surprised he composed himself! TW@T!
How is it the Southampton board's fault that lovren head was lost at Liverpool or that lallana's toy's fell out his pram and refused to play for them? Or that man utd offered a ridiculous £27 million for a 18 year old stubby right back?, did anyone see lovren at kick off? He must of been all aquiver with emotions must of had a big lump in thoght, I'm surprised he composed himself! TW@T! InCortesewetrust
  • Score: 59

7:28am Tue 19 Aug 14

Malcombe says...

It was nice that Rickie said these kind words and he is down in the history books as one of many heroes of the Club but I think he's grovelling a little after he said in his previous interview that the Board set Saints ambitions and they had ceased, propaganda set by the Deceitful One, IMO that was a crass thing to say and somewhat untrue. A Club like Eastleigh are now in the Conference so where's there next ambition of course the Football League because they have got the bit between there teeth and they want to keep progressing and Southampton FC are no different, Ronald Koeman would not come and Manage a Club who did not care what he did as long as they stay in the Premiership that's utter nonsense, he wants to prove he can get Saints higher than last season because he too is a positive person who wants success and judging by last Sunday it showed with a excellent performance from the Team.
IMO Rickie seems to be a very nice man and doesn't want to be disloyal to anyone at the Club and those that have left so he would wise to move on like we all will and enjoy the season that again could see progress for the Club, there is only 2 ways to go it's onwards and upwards and that is where I have always believed is the direction Southampton want to go, success breeds success, they have had a sniff of success like Eastleigh and want a taste of the next rung on the ladder and aim as high as it's possible to get to the summit where a Trophy awaits the winner of the League. COYR
It was nice that Rickie said these kind words and he is down in the history books as one of many heroes of the Club but I think he's grovelling a little after he said in his previous interview that the Board set Saints ambitions and they had ceased, propaganda set by the Deceitful One, IMO that was a crass thing to say and somewhat untrue. A Club like Eastleigh are now in the Conference so where's there next ambition of course the Football League because they have got the bit between there teeth and they want to keep progressing and Southampton FC are no different, Ronald Koeman would not come and Manage a Club who did not care what he did as long as they stay in the Premiership that's utter nonsense, he wants to prove he can get Saints higher than last season because he too is a positive person who wants success and judging by last Sunday it showed with a excellent performance from the Team. IMO Rickie seems to be a very nice man and doesn't want to be disloyal to anyone at the Club and those that have left so he would wise to move on like we all will and enjoy the season that again could see progress for the Club, there is only 2 ways to go it's onwards and upwards and that is where I have always believed is the direction Southampton want to go, success breeds success, they have had a sniff of success like Eastleigh and want a taste of the next rung on the ladder and aim as high as it's possible to get to the summit where a Trophy awaits the winner of the League. COYR Malcombe
  • Score: 35

7:31am Tue 19 Aug 14

NC Fan4Life says...

At his age Ricky won't have any regrets leaving even if Saints end up above Liverpool, because he is finishing his last two seasons of his career at his hometown club, something he only dreamed about before. I think his regard for Saints is genuine and will always be welcome back here.

I thought Saints performance was encouraging but we are still short of a few top quality players especially a BETTER CB to stop giving away soft goals, and a proven Goalscorer to score instead of missing chances.

We have still got two weeks left to get them, buy the CB urgently &/or get the fast Striker on loan if can't buy one or two by deadline day.

COYR&WS
At his age Ricky won't have any regrets leaving even if Saints end up above Liverpool, because he is finishing his last two seasons of his career at his hometown club, something he only dreamed about before. I think his regard for Saints is genuine and will always be welcome back here. I thought Saints performance was encouraging but we are still short of a few top quality players especially a BETTER CB to stop giving away soft goals, and a proven Goalscorer to score instead of missing chances. We have still got two weeks left to get them, buy the CB urgently &/or get the fast Striker on loan if can't buy one or two by deadline day. COYR&WS NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 5

7:34am Tue 19 Aug 14

milton road says...

From the moment Cortese went Poch was going and it took Cortese to persuade him to even stay to the end of the season
It would though seem that the board didn't do too much to quell the worries of the players. You just get the feeling that the board were prepared to let certain players go to raise money to build a better squad, a dangerous gamble, one not popular but if it succeeds all will be forgiven. It would seem the players that have gone were those closest to Poch and it was said there were two groups of players, those in his little circle and those not, whether that is true or not we will never know.
You know all of these players could of given us to January to see how things settled at least given things time but they could not wait to jump ship.
RL I can understand wanting the chance to got Liverpool.
Shaw was never going to turn down 6 mil a year to go to Utd.
I should imagine the other three got hefty wage rises as well.
I think Poch is a charismatic person that can hold those he wants under a spell. I think now it is for Koeman to build his squad and bind their loyalty to him.he strikes me as a very defined character with good judgement and reasoning.
From the moment Cortese went Poch was going and it took Cortese to persuade him to even stay to the end of the season It would though seem that the board didn't do too much to quell the worries of the players. You just get the feeling that the board were prepared to let certain players go to raise money to build a better squad, a dangerous gamble, one not popular but if it succeeds all will be forgiven. It would seem the players that have gone were those closest to Poch and it was said there were two groups of players, those in his little circle and those not, whether that is true or not we will never know. You know all of these players could of given us to January to see how things settled at least given things time but they could not wait to jump ship. RL I can understand wanting the chance to got Liverpool. Shaw was never going to turn down 6 mil a year to go to Utd. I should imagine the other three got hefty wage rises as well. I think Poch is a charismatic person that can hold those he wants under a spell. I think now it is for Koeman to build his squad and bind their loyalty to him.he strikes me as a very defined character with good judgement and reasoning. milton road
  • Score: 42

7:34am Tue 19 Aug 14

InCortesewetrust says...

InCortesewetrust wrote:
How is it the Southampton board's fault that lovren head was lost at Liverpool or that lallana's toy's fell out his pram and refused to play for them? Or that man utd offered a ridiculous £27 million for a 18 year old stubby right back?, did anyone see lovren at kick off? He must of been all aquiver with emotions must of had a big lump in thoght, I'm surprised he composed himself! TW@T!
Left :-\
[quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: How is it the Southampton board's fault that lovren head was lost at Liverpool or that lallana's toy's fell out his pram and refused to play for them? Or that man utd offered a ridiculous £27 million for a 18 year old stubby right back?, did anyone see lovren at kick off? He must of been all aquiver with emotions must of had a big lump in thoght, I'm surprised he composed himself! TW@T![/p][/quote]Left :-\ InCortesewetrust
  • Score: 1

7:38am Tue 19 Aug 14

andoru says...

"The main objective was to try and get a goal. That was the main thing going through my head."

I know it's his job, but I'm slightly annoyed that he was so keen to score against us.
"The main objective was to try and get a goal. That was the main thing going through my head." I know it's his job, but I'm slightly annoyed that he was so keen to score against us. andoru
  • Score: -17

7:44am Tue 19 Aug 14

NewForestStu says...

Rickie - Absolute Legend, but maybe from now on best not divulge too much info as some might not like what tbey hear.

Lalla - you are a despicable piece of work. Glad your gone.

Lovren - C U Next Tuesday

I will be at the West Brom game and at the away game at Upton Park but i'm afraid my days of singing any songs player related are officially over. I will only clap snd cheer now when the 'team plays well'. No more acknowledging any individuals who kiss the badge so to speak.
Rickie - Absolute Legend, but maybe from now on best not divulge too much info as some might not like what tbey hear. Lalla - you are a despicable piece of work. Glad your gone. Lovren - C U Next Tuesday I will be at the West Brom game and at the away game at Upton Park but i'm afraid my days of singing any songs player related are officially over. I will only clap snd cheer now when the 'team plays well'. No more acknowledging any individuals who kiss the badge so to speak. NewForestStu
  • Score: 25

7:46am Tue 19 Aug 14

NC Fan4Life says...

InCortesewetrust wrote:
How is it the Southampton board's fault that lovren head was lost at Liverpool or that lallana's toy's fell out his pram and refused to play for them? Or that man utd offered a ridiculous £27 million for a 18 year old stubby right back?, did anyone see lovren at kick off? He must of been all aquiver with emotions must of had a big lump in thoght, I'm surprised he composed himself! TW@T!
We will probably never know the answer to that, but remember this board was only put together in January and has very little experience of running a Premiership club. There were obviously things they did, or didn't do, that would have been different going back to their appointments this year.
I think their biggest mistake was selling Callum Chambers, that didn't make any sense.
However they are redeeming themselves and if they keep Morgan & J-Rod plus sign a top CB & Goalscorer we will have a better team, which we would have done if we had kept them all & added three better players, as we were all calling for before they started leaving.
[quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: How is it the Southampton board's fault that lovren head was lost at Liverpool or that lallana's toy's fell out his pram and refused to play for them? Or that man utd offered a ridiculous £27 million for a 18 year old stubby right back?, did anyone see lovren at kick off? He must of been all aquiver with emotions must of had a big lump in thoght, I'm surprised he composed himself! TW@T![/p][/quote]We will probably never know the answer to that, but remember this board was only put together in January and has very little experience of running a Premiership club. There were obviously things they did, or didn't do, that would have been different going back to their appointments this year. I think their biggest mistake was selling Callum Chambers, that didn't make any sense. However they are redeeming themselves and if they keep Morgan & J-Rod plus sign a top CB & Goalscorer we will have a better team, which we would have done if we had kept them all & added three better players, as we were all calling for before they started leaving. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 26

7:54am Tue 19 Aug 14

BarnetSaint says...

NewForestStu wrote:
Rickie - Absolute Legend, but maybe from now on best not divulge too much info as some might not like what tbey hear.

Lalla - you are a despicable piece of work. Glad your gone.

Lovren - C U Next Tuesday

I will be at the West Brom game and at the away game at Upton Park but i'm afraid my days of singing any songs player related are officially over. I will only clap snd cheer now when the 'team plays well'. No more acknowledging any individuals who kiss the badge so to speak.
Great point.
No point Getting any emotional attachment to players.
Look how we sang about our departing World Cup players.
They jumped ship at the first opportunity.
And it was the unsavoury way some of them did this which grates.
Lo£ren in particular.
[quote][p][bold]NewForestStu[/bold] wrote: Rickie - Absolute Legend, but maybe from now on best not divulge too much info as some might not like what tbey hear. Lalla - you are a despicable piece of work. Glad your gone. Lovren - C U Next Tuesday I will be at the West Brom game and at the away game at Upton Park but i'm afraid my days of singing any songs player related are officially over. I will only clap snd cheer now when the 'team plays well'. No more acknowledging any individuals who kiss the badge so to speak.[/p][/quote]Great point. No point Getting any emotional attachment to players. Look how we sang about our departing World Cup players. They jumped ship at the first opportunity. And it was the unsavoury way some of them did this which grates. Lo£ren in particular. BarnetSaint
  • Score: 38

7:55am Tue 19 Aug 14

saintbobby says...

I think Rickie is sincere and really does have much respect for us. Perhaps he got In a bit of a tangle in the interview about the summer at St. Mary's but though he no longer plays for us, his contribution will never be forgotten.

Many clubs have a goalkeeping coach and it occurs to me that one day Rickie could be a useful Striker coach - at St. Mary's?
I think Rickie is sincere and really does have much respect for us. Perhaps he got In a bit of a tangle in the interview about the summer at St. Mary's but though he no longer plays for us, his contribution will never be forgotten. Many clubs have a goalkeeping coach and it occurs to me that one day Rickie could be a useful Striker coach - at St. Mary's? saintbobby
  • Score: 14

8:06am Tue 19 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

InsideOutCat wrote:
Pochettino is nothing like the manager Koeman is, but SRL (like most of the other leavers) was a member of his favoured dressing-room clique.
We'll never forget the huge part Rickie played in the (Liebherr funded) rise from the ashes but it's naïve (or possibly malicious) journalism to print his opinions of the board and owner when they are so coloured in favour of the defunct regime.
I suspect that there are one or two at the club now (JWP in particular) who will thrive post Pochettino/Lallana etc as they step out of the shadows. Hopefully they are those who would crawl over broken glass to play for us COYS
[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Pochettino is nothing like the manager Koeman is, but SRL (like most of the other leavers) was a member of his favoured dressing-room clique. We'll never forget the huge part Rickie played in the (Liebherr funded) rise from the ashes but it's naïve (or possibly malicious) journalism to print his opinions of the board and owner when they are so coloured in favour of the defunct regime.[/p][/quote]I suspect that there are one or two at the club now (JWP in particular) who will thrive post Pochettino/Lallana etc as they step out of the shadows. Hopefully they are those who would crawl over broken glass to play for us COYS Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 25

8:30am Tue 19 Aug 14

saintbobby says...

saintbobby wrote:
I think Rickie is sincere and really does have much respect for us. Perhaps he got In a bit of a tangle in the interview about the summer at St. Mary's but though he no longer plays for us, his contribution will never be forgotten.

Many clubs have a goalkeeping coach and it occurs to me that one day Rickie could be a useful Striker coach - at St. Mary's?
Oh, dear! 3 thumbs down in 30 minutes. Why is this seen as a bad idea?
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: I think Rickie is sincere and really does have much respect for us. Perhaps he got In a bit of a tangle in the interview about the summer at St. Mary's but though he no longer plays for us, his contribution will never be forgotten. Many clubs have a goalkeeping coach and it occurs to me that one day Rickie could be a useful Striker coach - at St. Mary's?[/p][/quote]Oh, dear! 3 thumbs down in 30 minutes. Why is this seen as a bad idea? saintbobby
  • Score: 4

8:31am Tue 19 Aug 14

ARKAN_ says...

Pochettino's departure had nothing to do with the board and Cortese's leavingt only made it easier to get out of his contract. MP had decided long before to join Spurs having been worked on by Ossie Ardiles who sold him the notion Spurs were a bigger club. Our players don't realise MP was about to betray them and the club.
Pochettino's departure had nothing to do with the board and Cortese's leavingt only made it easier to get out of his contract. MP had decided long before to join Spurs having been worked on by Ossie Ardiles who sold him the notion Spurs were a bigger club. Our players don't realise MP was about to betray them and the club. ARKAN_
  • Score: 36

8:31am Tue 19 Aug 14

verwoodsaint says...

whats the point of winding things up Lambert ? You got what you wanted so be happy , leave the saints to grow. SFC will always be bigger than any player…Move on...
whats the point of winding things up Lambert ? You got what you wanted so be happy , leave the saints to grow. SFC will always be bigger than any player…Move on... verwoodsaint
  • Score: 36

8:32am Tue 19 Aug 14

Clever Dick says...

Glad you were impressed with our "new look Saints" Rickie. On the other hand we wern't impressed even slightly with Brenda's new look Skiverpool
Glad you were impressed with our "new look Saints" Rickie. On the other hand we wern't impressed even slightly with Brenda's new look Skiverpool Clever Dick
  • Score: 51

8:33am Tue 19 Aug 14

jls217 says...

InsideOutCat wrote:
Pochettino is nothing like the manager Koeman is, but SRL (like most of the other leavers) was a member of his favoured dressing-room clique.
We'll never forget the huge part Rickie played in the (Liebherr funded) rise from the ashes but it's naïve (or possibly malicious) journalism to print his opinions of the board and owner when they are so coloured in favour of the defunct regime.
Thank you. Clear, succint and hitting the right nerve.
[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Pochettino is nothing like the manager Koeman is, but SRL (like most of the other leavers) was a member of his favoured dressing-room clique. We'll never forget the huge part Rickie played in the (Liebherr funded) rise from the ashes but it's naïve (or possibly malicious) journalism to print his opinions of the board and owner when they are so coloured in favour of the defunct regime.[/p][/quote]Thank you. Clear, succint and hitting the right nerve. jls217
  • Score: 23

8:37am Tue 19 Aug 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

That ambition was probably to spend a hell of a lot more money that we simply could not sustain. If we owed £27m from transfers the previous season imagine what that debt would have been this season without the sale of players...

We are an ambitious club (since Liebherr took over), we just have to make our own money first to spend on taking the club further, something Cortese started to do but it was soon getting out of hand and Katharina stepped in at the right time.

I think we have the best manager we've had since Strachan. So the ambition cannot be questioned imo.
That ambition was probably to spend a hell of a lot more money that we simply could not sustain. If we owed £27m from transfers the previous season imagine what that debt would have been this season without the sale of players... We are an ambitious club (since Liebherr took over), we just have to make our own money first to spend on taking the club further, something Cortese started to do but it was soon getting out of hand and Katharina stepped in at the right time. I think we have the best manager we've had since Strachan. So the ambition cannot be questioned imo. SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: 37

8:37am Tue 19 Aug 14

St Mark says...

milton road wrote:
If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but
Thank you
I don't see it - would like to complain if I could.
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but Thank you[/p][/quote]I don't see it - would like to complain if I could. St Mark
  • Score: 3

8:39am Tue 19 Aug 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

saintbobby wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
I think Rickie is sincere and really does have much respect for us. Perhaps he got In a bit of a tangle in the interview about the summer at St. Mary's but though he no longer plays for us, his contribution will never be forgotten.

Many clubs have a goalkeeping coach and it occurs to me that one day Rickie could be a useful Striker coach - at St. Mary's?
Oh, dear! 3 thumbs down in 30 minutes. Why is this seen as a bad idea?
I'd prefer fat Ronaldo.
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: I think Rickie is sincere and really does have much respect for us. Perhaps he got In a bit of a tangle in the interview about the summer at St. Mary's but though he no longer plays for us, his contribution will never be forgotten. Many clubs have a goalkeeping coach and it occurs to me that one day Rickie could be a useful Striker coach - at St. Mary's?[/p][/quote]Oh, dear! 3 thumbs down in 30 minutes. Why is this seen as a bad idea?[/p][/quote]I'd prefer fat Ronaldo. SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: 4

8:41am Tue 19 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Pochettino is nothing like the manager Koeman is, but SRL (like most of the other leavers) was a member of his favoured dressing-room clique.
We'll never forget the huge part Rickie played in the (Liebherr funded) rise from the ashes but it's naïve (or possibly malicious) journalism to print his opinions of the board and owner when they are so coloured in favour of the defunct regime.
I suspect that there are one or two at the club now (JWP in particular) who will thrive post Pochettino/Lallana etc as they step out of the shadows. Hopefully they are those who would crawl over broken glass to play for us COYS
Some have reported on here that Poxi was only interested in the 16 or so that played in first team, if that is correct I would expect a few will flourish.
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Pochettino is nothing like the manager Koeman is, but SRL (like most of the other leavers) was a member of his favoured dressing-room clique. We'll never forget the huge part Rickie played in the (Liebherr funded) rise from the ashes but it's naïve (or possibly malicious) journalism to print his opinions of the board and owner when they are so coloured in favour of the defunct regime.[/p][/quote]I suspect that there are one or two at the club now (JWP in particular) who will thrive post Pochettino/Lallana etc as they step out of the shadows. Hopefully they are those who would crawl over broken glass to play for us COYS[/p][/quote]Some have reported on here that Poxi was only interested in the 16 or so that played in first team, if that is correct I would expect a few will flourish. fascia123
  • Score: 8

8:43am Tue 19 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

jls217 wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Pochettino is nothing like the manager Koeman is, but SRL (like most of the other leavers) was a member of his favoured dressing-room clique.
We'll never forget the huge part Rickie played in the (Liebherr funded) rise from the ashes but it's naïve (or possibly malicious) journalism to print his opinions of the board and owner when they are so coloured in favour of the defunct regime.
Thank you. Clear, succint and hitting the right nerve.
Thumbs up
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Pochettino is nothing like the manager Koeman is, but SRL (like most of the other leavers) was a member of his favoured dressing-room clique. We'll never forget the huge part Rickie played in the (Liebherr funded) rise from the ashes but it's naïve (or possibly malicious) journalism to print his opinions of the board and owner when they are so coloured in favour of the defunct regime.[/p][/quote]Thank you. Clear, succint and hitting the right nerve.[/p][/quote]Thumbs up fascia123
  • Score: 11

8:43am Tue 19 Aug 14

Moonraker1983 says...

saintbobby wrote:
Bernadette M. Nicholas wrote:
my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out
http://x.co/5Hkqe
How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else!

Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.
You do realize it's not an advert right? And that the Echo doesn't accept them, but should get round to deleting it eventually. Just don't follow the link.

Or, if you do think that's it genuine, I'm actually a Nigerian prince with many millions here, I just need your bank account details to get the money out the country.

And WHATS with the RANDOM capitalization of WORDS, as if we're not INTELLIGENT enough to understand the sentence without requiring FURTHER emphasis on certain words.
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bernadette M. Nicholas[/bold] wrote: my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out http://x.co/5Hkqe[/p][/quote]How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else! Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.[/p][/quote]You do realize it's not an advert right? And that the Echo doesn't accept them, but should get round to deleting it eventually. Just don't follow the link. Or, if you do think that's it genuine, I'm actually a Nigerian prince with many millions here, I just need your bank account details to get the money out the country. And WHATS with the RANDOM capitalization of WORDS, as if we're not INTELLIGENT enough to understand the sentence without requiring FURTHER emphasis on certain words. Moonraker1983
  • Score: 8

8:45am Tue 19 Aug 14

Costa Baz says...

Lambert added: “There’s obviously a reason why the gaffer (Mauricio Pochettino) went and I think that was the moment that I think it became clear to the players what the ambition of the club was going to be.”

Unnecessary comment, designed to muddy the waters. Shame on you Rickie.

I think it is well documented that the board offered MP and his staff, a very good contract to stay on, to complete the job.
It is also very well documented that MP stated that he couldn't see a future at the club, post Cortese, before the board had even been stabilised.
MP painted himself into a corner, with that comment, and from the rumours circulating since the many departures, it is becoming clear that not only did he have no intention of staying, but that several players KNEW he was leaving well before he actually did leave.
And well before he notified his employers of his intentions.

Many supporters, from watching the players awards, could see Liellana was off, and this was before MP had announced his departure.
I've see a credible comment, reference MP offering to take JRod to his next new club, as long ago as March.
Even Lovren knew MP was leaving, before MP resigned.

This whole departure and blame it on the board's lack of ambition scenario, IMO, has been a very clever, and very well choreographed exercise, by MP and the pro Cortese "rebels".
The only reason why, IMO, they are trotting out the lack of ambition story, is because the board did not cave in and release them immediately, and for lesser fees.
The board made them sweat and put their "dream" moves in doubt, so they squinnied like children.

That Rickie has decided to make this comment, even though he was allowed to go so speedily and for a relatively low amount, is disrespectful, not just to the board, but to the fans, who deserve to be allowed to move on, without ex players dropping little "innuendo time bombs" into interviews.
If they really want to criticise the board's lack of ambition, then maybe they should put some meat on the bones and explain their cryptic comments.
Lambert added: “There’s obviously a reason why the gaffer (Mauricio Pochettino) went and I think that was the moment that I think it became clear to the players what the ambition of the club was going to be.” Unnecessary comment, designed to muddy the waters. Shame on you Rickie. I think it is well documented that the board offered MP and his staff, a very good contract to stay on, to complete the job. It is also very well documented that MP stated that he couldn't see a future at the club, post Cortese, before the board had even been stabilised. MP painted himself into a corner, with that comment, and from the rumours circulating since the many departures, it is becoming clear that not only did he have no intention of staying, but that several players KNEW he was leaving well before he actually did leave. And well before he notified his employers of his intentions. Many supporters, from watching the players awards, could see Liellana was off, and this was before MP had announced his departure. I've see a credible comment, reference MP offering to take JRod to his next new club, as long ago as March. Even Lovren knew MP was leaving, before MP resigned. This whole departure and blame it on the board's lack of ambition scenario, IMO, has been a very clever, and very well choreographed exercise, by MP and the pro Cortese "rebels". The only reason why, IMO, they are trotting out the lack of ambition story, is because the board did not cave in and release them immediately, and for lesser fees. The board made them sweat and put their "dream" moves in doubt, so they squinnied like children. That Rickie has decided to make this comment, even though he was allowed to go so speedily and for a relatively low amount, is disrespectful, not just to the board, but to the fans, who deserve to be allowed to move on, without ex players dropping little "innuendo time bombs" into interviews. If they really want to criticise the board's lack of ambition, then maybe they should put some meat on the bones and explain their cryptic comments. Costa Baz
  • Score: 66

8:47am Tue 19 Aug 14

TGodSFC says...

St Mark wrote:
milton road wrote:
If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but
Thank you
I don't see it - would like to complain if I could.
utter disgrace!!!
http://www.theguardi
an.com/football/gall
ery/2014/aug/19/rona
ld-koeman-the-galler
y-southampton#/?pict
ure=444738263&index=
6
[quote][p][bold]St Mark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but Thank you[/p][/quote]I don't see it - would like to complain if I could.[/p][/quote]utter disgrace!!! http://www.theguardi an.com/football/gall ery/2014/aug/19/rona ld-koeman-the-galler y-southampton#/?pict ure=444738263&index= 6 TGodSFC
  • Score: 3

8:48am Tue 19 Aug 14

milton road says...

St Mark wrote:
milton road wrote:
If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but
Thank you
I don't see it - would like to complain if I could.
They have a picture of Rpdriguez and Schneiderlin with Koeman in between and a Sale sign above basically saying what will you offer me for these 2 and then a whole gallery of pictures making Fun of Koeman and Saints generally.
[quote][p][bold]St Mark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but Thank you[/p][/quote]I don't see it - would like to complain if I could.[/p][/quote]They have a picture of Rpdriguez and Schneiderlin with Koeman in between and a Sale sign above basically saying what will you offer me for these 2 and then a whole gallery of pictures making Fun of Koeman and Saints generally. milton road
  • Score: 1

8:49am Tue 19 Aug 14

footballcrazy says...

milton road wrote:
From the moment Cortese went Poch was going and it took Cortese to persuade him to even stay to the end of the season
It would though seem that the board didn't do too much to quell the worries of the players. You just get the feeling that the board were prepared to let certain players go to raise money to build a better squad, a dangerous gamble, one not popular but if it succeeds all will be forgiven. It would seem the players that have gone were those closest to Poch and it was said there were two groups of players, those in his little circle and those not, whether that is true or not we will never know.
You know all of these players could of given us to January to see how things settled at least given things time but they could not wait to jump ship.
RL I can understand wanting the chance to got Liverpool.
Shaw was never going to turn down 6 mil a year to go to Utd.
I should imagine the other three got hefty wage rises as well.
I think Poch is a charismatic person that can hold those he wants under a spell. I think now it is for Koeman to build his squad and bind their loyalty to him.he strikes me as a very defined character with good judgement and reasoning.
seeing poch on tv without interpreter speaking ENGLISH I feel was disrespectfull to the club and fans al that time he was here!. we as a club are too nice . I also remember the early days when lallana definitely had bit of an ego and amongst a few others lacked effort when playing games.
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: From the moment Cortese went Poch was going and it took Cortese to persuade him to even stay to the end of the season It would though seem that the board didn't do too much to quell the worries of the players. You just get the feeling that the board were prepared to let certain players go to raise money to build a better squad, a dangerous gamble, one not popular but if it succeeds all will be forgiven. It would seem the players that have gone were those closest to Poch and it was said there were two groups of players, those in his little circle and those not, whether that is true or not we will never know. You know all of these players could of given us to January to see how things settled at least given things time but they could not wait to jump ship. RL I can understand wanting the chance to got Liverpool. Shaw was never going to turn down 6 mil a year to go to Utd. I should imagine the other three got hefty wage rises as well. I think Poch is a charismatic person that can hold those he wants under a spell. I think now it is for Koeman to build his squad and bind their loyalty to him.he strikes me as a very defined character with good judgement and reasoning.[/p][/quote]seeing poch on tv without interpreter speaking ENGLISH I feel was disrespectfull to the club and fans al that time he was here!. we as a club are too nice . I also remember the early days when lallana definitely had bit of an ego and amongst a few others lacked effort when playing games. footballcrazy
  • Score: 23

8:51am Tue 19 Aug 14

the swinging arm of channon says...

Okay, now we have Liverpool's Rickie Lamberts thoughts on the new team, and the board. Thats enough now, you moved to Liverpool, keep your comments about the club you care enough to play for, not the likes of Saints, Bristol Rovers etc, who you no longer have any connection with
Okay, now we have Liverpool's Rickie Lamberts thoughts on the new team, and the board. Thats enough now, you moved to Liverpool, keep your comments about the club you care enough to play for, not the likes of Saints, Bristol Rovers etc, who you no longer have any connection with the swinging arm of channon
  • Score: 16

8:55am Tue 19 Aug 14

jls217 says...

saintbobby wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
I think Rickie is sincere and really does have much respect for us. Perhaps he got In a bit of a tangle in the interview about the summer at St. Mary's but though he no longer plays for us, his contribution will never be forgotten.

Many clubs have a goalkeeping coach and it occurs to me that one day Rickie could be a useful Striker coach - at St. Mary's?
Oh, dear! 3 thumbs down in 30 minutes. Why is this seen as a bad idea?
Because we already have the finest goal scoring machine this club has ever had a phone call away. This machine was also the finest dribbler, reader of the game, free kick specialist and penalty taker (and finest pie eater too) all rolled into one. Lambert pales by comparison.
It will never happen though because the pie eater will never conform to FA, EUFA or FIFA robotic coaching courses or techniques when he knows what made him the most compelling footballer of his generation, the most entertaining and the most efficient at his job was pure uncoachable, unspoilt, undiluted joy of the game and the desire and abilities to try and succeed at the unconventional and improbable and which got him on goal of the month and won him man of the match and had Messi admitting it was him who he (Messi) had emulated when it came to goal scoring. Yet no club will take the risk of hiring him as such because he never ran himself into the ground, tracking back, and all the other football cliches used for players who fit the mould required. He just allowed his own mould to form and worked hard to perfect his own mould. Those posting here too young to have been thrilled by the sight of him leaving three or four defenders (all FA approved coached) wondering where the hell he'd gone or what had just happened to them as they had just been given a lesson in football genius. Or a keeper who had just been deceived by a ball which had just bent from an impossible angle and whacked into the back of the net (still rising) from 30 yards out.
There are those of us on here who will go to our deathbeds running those through our minds and wondering if we will ever see that sort of genius again. Alas - we probably will not and neither will you because it is coached out of them as opposed to allowing the youngster free will to develop what the pie eater might be able to encourage them to learn for themselves through hours of trial and error.
That is why we don't want the likes of Lambert and the fact that he left us when we needed him most might have a little something to do with it too. Also the way he is still espousing the dirt on the club in public too.
No he doesn't need to get on the National Express south - We've got a genius, who will be ignored, already in our midst. Just a phone call away.
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: I think Rickie is sincere and really does have much respect for us. Perhaps he got In a bit of a tangle in the interview about the summer at St. Mary's but though he no longer plays for us, his contribution will never be forgotten. Many clubs have a goalkeeping coach and it occurs to me that one day Rickie could be a useful Striker coach - at St. Mary's?[/p][/quote]Oh, dear! 3 thumbs down in 30 minutes. Why is this seen as a bad idea?[/p][/quote]Because we already have the finest goal scoring machine this club has ever had a phone call away. This machine was also the finest dribbler, reader of the game, free kick specialist and penalty taker (and finest pie eater too) all rolled into one. Lambert pales by comparison. It will never happen though because the pie eater will never conform to FA, EUFA or FIFA robotic coaching courses or techniques when he knows what made him the most compelling footballer of his generation, the most entertaining and the most efficient at his job was pure uncoachable, unspoilt, undiluted joy of the game and the desire and abilities to try and succeed at the unconventional and improbable and which got him on goal of the month and won him man of the match and had Messi admitting it was him who he (Messi) had emulated when it came to goal scoring. Yet no club will take the risk of hiring him as such because he never ran himself into the ground, tracking back, and all the other football cliches used for players who fit the mould required. He just allowed his own mould to form and worked hard to perfect his own mould. Those posting here too young to have been thrilled by the sight of him leaving three or four defenders (all FA approved coached) wondering where the hell he'd gone or what had just happened to them as they had just been given a lesson in football genius. Or a keeper who had just been deceived by a ball which had just bent from an impossible angle and whacked into the back of the net (still rising) from 30 yards out. There are those of us on here who will go to our deathbeds running those through our minds and wondering if we will ever see that sort of genius again. Alas - we probably will not and neither will you because it is coached out of them as opposed to allowing the youngster free will to develop what the pie eater might be able to encourage them to learn for themselves through hours of trial and error. That is why we don't want the likes of Lambert and the fact that he left us when we needed him most might have a little something to do with it too. Also the way he is still espousing the dirt on the club in public too. No he doesn't need to get on the National Express south - We've got a genius, who will be ignored, already in our midst. Just a phone call away. jls217
  • Score: 29

8:56am Tue 19 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Costa Baz wrote:
Lambert added: “There’s obviously a reason why the gaffer (Mauricio Pochettino) went and I think that was the moment that I think it became clear to the players what the ambition of the club was going to be.”

Unnecessary comment, designed to muddy the waters. Shame on you Rickie.

I think it is well documented that the board offered MP and his staff, a very good contract to stay on, to complete the job.
It is also very well documented that MP stated that he couldn't see a future at the club, post Cortese, before the board had even been stabilised.
MP painted himself into a corner, with that comment, and from the rumours circulating since the many departures, it is becoming clear that not only did he have no intention of staying, but that several players KNEW he was leaving well before he actually did leave.
And well before he notified his employers of his intentions.

Many supporters, from watching the players awards, could see Liellana was off, and this was before MP had announced his departure.
I've see a credible comment, reference MP offering to take JRod to his next new club, as long ago as March.
Even Lovren knew MP was leaving, before MP resigned.

This whole departure and blame it on the board's lack of ambition scenario, IMO, has been a very clever, and very well choreographed exercise, by MP and the pro Cortese "rebels".
The only reason why, IMO, they are trotting out the lack of ambition story, is because the board did not cave in and release them immediately, and for lesser fees.
The board made them sweat and put their "dream" moves in doubt, so they squinnied like children.

That Rickie has decided to make this comment, even though he was allowed to go so speedily and for a relatively low amount, is disrespectful, not just to the board, but to the fans, who deserve to be allowed to move on, without ex players dropping little "innuendo time bombs" into interviews.
If they really want to criticise the board's lack of ambition, then maybe they should put some meat on the bones and explain their cryptic comments.
Simple as, fuc? the club they ALL went for money
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: Lambert added: “There’s obviously a reason why the gaffer (Mauricio Pochettino) went and I think that was the moment that I think it became clear to the players what the ambition of the club was going to be.” Unnecessary comment, designed to muddy the waters. Shame on you Rickie. I think it is well documented that the board offered MP and his staff, a very good contract to stay on, to complete the job. It is also very well documented that MP stated that he couldn't see a future at the club, post Cortese, before the board had even been stabilised. MP painted himself into a corner, with that comment, and from the rumours circulating since the many departures, it is becoming clear that not only did he have no intention of staying, but that several players KNEW he was leaving well before he actually did leave. And well before he notified his employers of his intentions. Many supporters, from watching the players awards, could see Liellana was off, and this was before MP had announced his departure. I've see a credible comment, reference MP offering to take JRod to his next new club, as long ago as March. Even Lovren knew MP was leaving, before MP resigned. This whole departure and blame it on the board's lack of ambition scenario, IMO, has been a very clever, and very well choreographed exercise, by MP and the pro Cortese "rebels". The only reason why, IMO, they are trotting out the lack of ambition story, is because the board did not cave in and release them immediately, and for lesser fees. The board made them sweat and put their "dream" moves in doubt, so they squinnied like children. That Rickie has decided to make this comment, even though he was allowed to go so speedily and for a relatively low amount, is disrespectful, not just to the board, but to the fans, who deserve to be allowed to move on, without ex players dropping little "innuendo time bombs" into interviews. If they really want to criticise the board's lack of ambition, then maybe they should put some meat on the bones and explain their cryptic comments.[/p][/quote]Simple as, fuc? the club they ALL went for money fascia123
  • Score: 14

8:58am Tue 19 Aug 14

Folkestone Saint says...

Costa Baz wrote:
Lambert added: “There’s obviously a reason why the gaffer (Mauricio Pochettino) went and I think that was the moment that I think it became clear to the players what the ambition of the club was going to be.”

Unnecessary comment, designed to muddy the waters. Shame on you Rickie.

I think it is well documented that the board offered MP and his staff, a very good contract to stay on, to complete the job.
It is also very well documented that MP stated that he couldn't see a future at the club, post Cortese, before the board had even been stabilised.
MP painted himself into a corner, with that comment, and from the rumours circulating since the many departures, it is becoming clear that not only did he have no intention of staying, but that several players KNEW he was leaving well before he actually did leave.
And well before he notified his employers of his intentions.

Many supporters, from watching the players awards, could see Liellana was off, and this was before MP had announced his departure.
I've see a credible comment, reference MP offering to take JRod to his next new club, as long ago as March.
Even Lovren knew MP was leaving, before MP resigned.

This whole departure and blame it on the board's lack of ambition scenario, IMO, has been a very clever, and very well choreographed exercise, by MP and the pro Cortese "rebels".
The only reason why, IMO, they are trotting out the lack of ambition story, is because the board did not cave in and release them immediately, and for lesser fees.
The board made them sweat and put their "dream" moves in doubt, so they squinnied like children.

That Rickie has decided to make this comment, even though he was allowed to go so speedily and for a relatively low amount, is disrespectful, not just to the board, but to the fans, who deserve to be allowed to move on, without ex players dropping little "innuendo time bombs" into interviews.
If they really want to criticise the board's lack of ambition, then maybe they should put some meat on the bones and explain their cryptic comments.
Well said Baz, my sentiments entirely, I always felt that potti-chino's was NEVER here for us but for what we could do for him, on this occasion I was right even though I wish I was wrong, untill Ron stepped in that is, we will be laughing a "plan a spuds" as we pass them in the league, and the chokers from livermoan.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: Lambert added: “There’s obviously a reason why the gaffer (Mauricio Pochettino) went and I think that was the moment that I think it became clear to the players what the ambition of the club was going to be.” Unnecessary comment, designed to muddy the waters. Shame on you Rickie. I think it is well documented that the board offered MP and his staff, a very good contract to stay on, to complete the job. It is also very well documented that MP stated that he couldn't see a future at the club, post Cortese, before the board had even been stabilised. MP painted himself into a corner, with that comment, and from the rumours circulating since the many departures, it is becoming clear that not only did he have no intention of staying, but that several players KNEW he was leaving well before he actually did leave. And well before he notified his employers of his intentions. Many supporters, from watching the players awards, could see Liellana was off, and this was before MP had announced his departure. I've see a credible comment, reference MP offering to take JRod to his next new club, as long ago as March. Even Lovren knew MP was leaving, before MP resigned. This whole departure and blame it on the board's lack of ambition scenario, IMO, has been a very clever, and very well choreographed exercise, by MP and the pro Cortese "rebels". The only reason why, IMO, they are trotting out the lack of ambition story, is because the board did not cave in and release them immediately, and for lesser fees. The board made them sweat and put their "dream" moves in doubt, so they squinnied like children. That Rickie has decided to make this comment, even though he was allowed to go so speedily and for a relatively low amount, is disrespectful, not just to the board, but to the fans, who deserve to be allowed to move on, without ex players dropping little "innuendo time bombs" into interviews. If they really want to criticise the board's lack of ambition, then maybe they should put some meat on the bones and explain their cryptic comments.[/p][/quote]Well said Baz, my sentiments entirely, I always felt that potti-chino's was NEVER here for us but for what we could do for him, on this occasion I was right even though I wish I was wrong, untill Ron stepped in that is, we will be laughing a "plan a spuds" as we pass them in the league, and the chokers from livermoan. Folkestone Saint
  • Score: 9

9:07am Tue 19 Aug 14

TGodSFC says...

TGodSFC wrote:
St Mark wrote:
milton road wrote:
If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but
Thank you
I don't see it - would like to complain if I could.
utter disgrace!!!
http://www.theguardi

an.com/football/gall

ery/2014/aug/19/rona

ld-koeman-the-galler

y-southampton#/?pict

ure=444738263&in
dex=
6
Emailed the guardian. I ask you all to please do the same !!! gallery@theguardian,
com

I was just directed to your website with your cartoon gallery of Ronald Koeman and I would like to make a formal complaint about it. It may be seen as a joke but realistically is comes across as an attack on an innocent party. Southampton FC have been through the wars this summer and this piece comes across as an attack by you on one of England’s great football clubs. It’s in complete poor taste and seems to me that if you would run something like this (even if it’s a joke) you clearly have no idea what’s going on at the club and what real journalism is! It’s clear to us and will become clear to you small minded people that the sale of certain players was for the best interest of SFC in the long run. I’m angered and disgusted by this article so much so I demand you to take it down and issue a formal apology.
[quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Mark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but Thank you[/p][/quote]I don't see it - would like to complain if I could.[/p][/quote]utter disgrace!!! http://www.theguardi an.com/football/gall ery/2014/aug/19/rona ld-koeman-the-galler y-southampton#/?pict ure=444738263&in dex= 6[/p][/quote]Emailed the guardian. I ask you all to please do the same !!! gallery@theguardian, com I was just directed to your website with your cartoon gallery of Ronald Koeman and I would like to make a formal complaint about it. It may be seen as a joke but realistically is comes across as an attack on an innocent party. Southampton FC have been through the wars this summer and this piece comes across as an attack by you on one of England’s great football clubs. It’s in complete poor taste and seems to me that if you would run something like this (even if it’s a joke) you clearly have no idea what’s going on at the club and what real journalism is! It’s clear to us and will become clear to you small minded people that the sale of certain players was for the best interest of SFC in the long run. I’m angered and disgusted by this article so much so I demand you to take it down and issue a formal apology. TGodSFC
  • Score: 31

9:10am Tue 19 Aug 14

jls217 says...

“It’s been surprising that it’s all been the players and none on the owners.”

Lambert added: “There’s obviously a reason why the gaffer (Mauricio Pochettino) went and I think that was the moment that I think it became clear to the players what the ambition of the club was going to be.”

Allow me to help you Ricky - It is only now the full ambition of the club is becoming clear and we still have not heard all of their plans. We replaced what we were fooled to believe at the time was the all important manager with a better one, one who will see the end of his contract with integrity and not all the time scheming until the dead line loomed. That ambition enabled this management team to rebuild a shattered team (one which you played your part in shattering) all because you all were seduced by the almighty pound notes). Now imagine if you had all stayed and been loyal and professional and saw your contracts through and Rambo had come in and purchased a couple of the players he has and will bring in over the next few years. Imagine where that team may have gone Ricky. So who's ambition faltered at the first hurdle Ricky - the wannaways (several who had gained international honours through the ambition of the club) or the boards who spend most of their time trying to patch the leaking boat as each of you sold out that ambition and waved your hands in the air volunteering to jump ship after being filled with god knows what crap when you should have all been concentrating on not embarrassing your club and your nation at the world cup?
You see Ricky when you start stirring the mud at the bottom of a puddle you never know what you might uncover, or disguise even further. The little shrimp at the bottom of the puddle may see it all very differently to the person stamping in the puddle to cause the cloudy water so as to carry out what it is they have in mind eh!? In the cases of the wannaways - yourself included, sheer self interest with barely a thought to anyone, anything elses ambition for the club - just your own self interest. Now **** off because, I for one, am done with you.
“It’s been surprising that it’s all been the players and none on the owners.” Lambert added: “There’s obviously a reason why the gaffer (Mauricio Pochettino) went and I think that was the moment that I think it became clear to the players what the ambition of the club was going to be.” Allow me to help you Ricky - It is only now the full ambition of the club is becoming clear and we still have not heard all of their plans. We replaced what we were fooled to believe at the time was the all important manager with a better one, one who will see the end of his contract with integrity and not all the time scheming until the dead line loomed. That ambition enabled this management team to rebuild a shattered team (one which you played your part in shattering) all because you all were seduced by the almighty pound notes). Now imagine if you had all stayed and been loyal and professional and saw your contracts through and Rambo had come in and purchased a couple of the players he has and will bring in over the next few years. Imagine where that team may have gone Ricky. So who's ambition faltered at the first hurdle Ricky - the wannaways (several who had gained international honours through the ambition of the club) or the boards who spend most of their time trying to patch the leaking boat as each of you sold out that ambition and waved your hands in the air volunteering to jump ship after being filled with god knows what crap when you should have all been concentrating on not embarrassing your club and your nation at the world cup? You see Ricky when you start stirring the mud at the bottom of a puddle you never know what you might uncover, or disguise even further. The little shrimp at the bottom of the puddle may see it all very differently to the person stamping in the puddle to cause the cloudy water so as to carry out what it is they have in mind eh!? In the cases of the wannaways - yourself included, sheer self interest with barely a thought to anyone, anything elses ambition for the club - just your own self interest. Now **** off because, I for one, am done with you. jls217
  • Score: 19

9:18am Tue 19 Aug 14

Malcombe says...

saintbobby

I have reported this post. As you are a regular do you remember similar adverts have appeared on Saints Site this year? I reported them every time, to all the genuine posters PLEASE IGNORE AND DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS IMPOSTER I am irritated while typing this comment
saintbobby I have reported this post. As you are a regular do you remember similar adverts have appeared on Saints Site this year? I reported them every time, to all the genuine posters PLEASE IGNORE AND DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS IMPOSTER I am irritated while typing this comment Malcombe
  • Score: 6

9:18am Tue 19 Aug 14

saintbobby says...

jls217 wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
I think Rickie is sincere and really does have much respect for us. Perhaps he got In a bit of a tangle in the interview about the summer at St. Mary's but though he no longer plays for us, his contribution will never be forgotten.

Many clubs have a goalkeeping coach and it occurs to me that one day Rickie could be a useful Striker coach - at St. Mary's?
Oh, dear! 3 thumbs down in 30 minutes. Why is this seen as a bad idea?
Because we already have the finest goal scoring machine this club has ever had a phone call away. This machine was also the finest dribbler, reader of the game, free kick specialist and penalty taker (and finest pie eater too) all rolled into one. Lambert pales by comparison.
It will never happen though because the pie eater will never conform to FA, EUFA or FIFA robotic coaching courses or techniques when he knows what made him the most compelling footballer of his generation, the most entertaining and the most efficient at his job was pure uncoachable, unspoilt, undiluted joy of the game and the desire and abilities to try and succeed at the unconventional and improbable and which got him on goal of the month and won him man of the match and had Messi admitting it was him who he (Messi) had emulated when it came to goal scoring. Yet no club will take the risk of hiring him as such because he never ran himself into the ground, tracking back, and all the other football cliches used for players who fit the mould required. He just allowed his own mould to form and worked hard to perfect his own mould. Those posting here too young to have been thrilled by the sight of him leaving three or four defenders (all FA approved coached) wondering where the hell he'd gone or what had just happened to them as they had just been given a lesson in football genius. Or a keeper who had just been deceived by a ball which had just bent from an impossible angle and whacked into the back of the net (still rising) from 30 yards out.
There are those of us on here who will go to our deathbeds running those through our minds and wondering if we will ever see that sort of genius again. Alas - we probably will not and neither will you because it is coached out of them as opposed to allowing the youngster free will to develop what the pie eater might be able to encourage them to learn for themselves through hours of trial and error.
That is why we don't want the likes of Lambert and the fact that he left us when we needed him most might have a little something to do with it too. Also the way he is still espousing the dirt on the club in public too.
No he doesn't need to get on the National Express south - We've got a genius, who will be ignored, already in our midst. Just a phone call away.
Oops! I see I have got this wrong. Sorry, guys.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: I think Rickie is sincere and really does have much respect for us. Perhaps he got In a bit of a tangle in the interview about the summer at St. Mary's but though he no longer plays for us, his contribution will never be forgotten. Many clubs have a goalkeeping coach and it occurs to me that one day Rickie could be a useful Striker coach - at St. Mary's?[/p][/quote]Oh, dear! 3 thumbs down in 30 minutes. Why is this seen as a bad idea?[/p][/quote]Because we already have the finest goal scoring machine this club has ever had a phone call away. This machine was also the finest dribbler, reader of the game, free kick specialist and penalty taker (and finest pie eater too) all rolled into one. Lambert pales by comparison. It will never happen though because the pie eater will never conform to FA, EUFA or FIFA robotic coaching courses or techniques when he knows what made him the most compelling footballer of his generation, the most entertaining and the most efficient at his job was pure uncoachable, unspoilt, undiluted joy of the game and the desire and abilities to try and succeed at the unconventional and improbable and which got him on goal of the month and won him man of the match and had Messi admitting it was him who he (Messi) had emulated when it came to goal scoring. Yet no club will take the risk of hiring him as such because he never ran himself into the ground, tracking back, and all the other football cliches used for players who fit the mould required. He just allowed his own mould to form and worked hard to perfect his own mould. Those posting here too young to have been thrilled by the sight of him leaving three or four defenders (all FA approved coached) wondering where the hell he'd gone or what had just happened to them as they had just been given a lesson in football genius. Or a keeper who had just been deceived by a ball which had just bent from an impossible angle and whacked into the back of the net (still rising) from 30 yards out. There are those of us on here who will go to our deathbeds running those through our minds and wondering if we will ever see that sort of genius again. Alas - we probably will not and neither will you because it is coached out of them as opposed to allowing the youngster free will to develop what the pie eater might be able to encourage them to learn for themselves through hours of trial and error. That is why we don't want the likes of Lambert and the fact that he left us when we needed him most might have a little something to do with it too. Also the way he is still espousing the dirt on the club in public too. No he doesn't need to get on the National Express south - We've got a genius, who will be ignored, already in our midst. Just a phone call away.[/p][/quote]Oops! I see I have got this wrong. Sorry, guys. saintbobby
  • Score: 6

9:19am Tue 19 Aug 14

damoose says...

Frankie Bennett says...

InsideOutCat wrote:
Pochettino is nothing like the manager Koeman is, but SRL (like most of the other leavers) was a member of his favoured dressing-room clique.
We'll never forget the huge part Rickie played in the (Liebherr funded) rise from the ashes but it's naïve (or possibly malicious) journalism to print his opinions of the board and owner when they are so coloured in favour of the defunct regime.
I suspect that there are one or two at the club now (JWP in particular) who will thrive post Pochettino/Lallana etc as they step out of the shadows. Hopefully they are those who would crawl over broken glass to play for us COYS
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Clyne Fonte Cork and JWP Gaston Wanyama didn`t seem to upset to see pooch leave , they were all left out for extended periods and some did seem a little unjust especially Clyne who was clearly on his way to Brazil and Cork not being played further forward until the last couple of games .. Fonte was on the bench a few games visibly upset
Frankie Bennett says... InsideOutCat wrote: Pochettino is nothing like the manager Koeman is, but SRL (like most of the other leavers) was a member of his favoured dressing-room clique. We'll never forget the huge part Rickie played in the (Liebherr funded) rise from the ashes but it's naïve (or possibly malicious) journalism to print his opinions of the board and owner when they are so coloured in favour of the defunct regime. I suspect that there are one or two at the club now (JWP in particular) who will thrive post Pochettino/Lallana etc as they step out of the shadows. Hopefully they are those who would crawl over broken glass to play for us COYS --------------- Clyne Fonte Cork and JWP Gaston Wanyama didn`t seem to upset to see pooch leave , they were all left out for extended periods and some did seem a little unjust especially Clyne who was clearly on his way to Brazil and Cork not being played further forward until the last couple of games .. Fonte was on the bench a few games visibly upset damoose
  • Score: 12

9:19am Tue 19 Aug 14

Chipmonk1 says...

jls217 wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
I think Rickie is sincere and really does have much respect for us. Perhaps he got In a bit of a tangle in the interview about the summer at St. Mary's but though he no longer plays for us, his contribution will never be forgotten.

Many clubs have a goalkeeping coach and it occurs to me that one day Rickie could be a useful Striker coach - at St. Mary's?
Oh, dear! 3 thumbs down in 30 minutes. Why is this seen as a bad idea?
Because we already have the finest goal scoring machine this club has ever had a phone call away. This machine was also the finest dribbler, reader of the game, free kick specialist and penalty taker (and finest pie eater too) all rolled into one. Lambert pales by comparison.
It will never happen though because the pie eater will never conform to FA, EUFA or FIFA robotic coaching courses or techniques when he knows what made him the most compelling footballer of his generation, the most entertaining and the most efficient at his job was pure uncoachable, unspoilt, undiluted joy of the game and the desire and abilities to try and succeed at the unconventional and improbable and which got him on goal of the month and won him man of the match and had Messi admitting it was him who he (Messi) had emulated when it came to goal scoring. Yet no club will take the risk of hiring him as such because he never ran himself into the ground, tracking back, and all the other football cliches used for players who fit the mould required. He just allowed his own mould to form and worked hard to perfect his own mould. Those posting here too young to have been thrilled by the sight of him leaving three or four defenders (all FA approved coached) wondering where the hell he'd gone or what had just happened to them as they had just been given a lesson in football genius. Or a keeper who had just been deceived by a ball which had just bent from an impossible angle and whacked into the back of the net (still rising) from 30 yards out.
There are those of us on here who will go to our deathbeds running those through our minds and wondering if we will ever see that sort of genius again. Alas - we probably will not and neither will you because it is coached out of them as opposed to allowing the youngster free will to develop what the pie eater might be able to encourage them to learn for themselves through hours of trial and error.
That is why we don't want the likes of Lambert and the fact that he left us when we needed him most might have a little something to do with it too. Also the way he is still espousing the dirt on the club in public too.
No he doesn't need to get on the National Express south - We've got a genius, who will be ignored, already in our midst. Just a phone call away.
Thanks for that post jls. Almost brings a tear to the eye. Sadly I think you are right and we will never see the likes of MLT again. On the plus side I am old enough to remember his efforts and he is the reason I became a Saints fan.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: I think Rickie is sincere and really does have much respect for us. Perhaps he got In a bit of a tangle in the interview about the summer at St. Mary's but though he no longer plays for us, his contribution will never be forgotten. Many clubs have a goalkeeping coach and it occurs to me that one day Rickie could be a useful Striker coach - at St. Mary's?[/p][/quote]Oh, dear! 3 thumbs down in 30 minutes. Why is this seen as a bad idea?[/p][/quote]Because we already have the finest goal scoring machine this club has ever had a phone call away. This machine was also the finest dribbler, reader of the game, free kick specialist and penalty taker (and finest pie eater too) all rolled into one. Lambert pales by comparison. It will never happen though because the pie eater will never conform to FA, EUFA or FIFA robotic coaching courses or techniques when he knows what made him the most compelling footballer of his generation, the most entertaining and the most efficient at his job was pure uncoachable, unspoilt, undiluted joy of the game and the desire and abilities to try and succeed at the unconventional and improbable and which got him on goal of the month and won him man of the match and had Messi admitting it was him who he (Messi) had emulated when it came to goal scoring. Yet no club will take the risk of hiring him as such because he never ran himself into the ground, tracking back, and all the other football cliches used for players who fit the mould required. He just allowed his own mould to form and worked hard to perfect his own mould. Those posting here too young to have been thrilled by the sight of him leaving three or four defenders (all FA approved coached) wondering where the hell he'd gone or what had just happened to them as they had just been given a lesson in football genius. Or a keeper who had just been deceived by a ball which had just bent from an impossible angle and whacked into the back of the net (still rising) from 30 yards out. There are those of us on here who will go to our deathbeds running those through our minds and wondering if we will ever see that sort of genius again. Alas - we probably will not and neither will you because it is coached out of them as opposed to allowing the youngster free will to develop what the pie eater might be able to encourage them to learn for themselves through hours of trial and error. That is why we don't want the likes of Lambert and the fact that he left us when we needed him most might have a little something to do with it too. Also the way he is still espousing the dirt on the club in public too. No he doesn't need to get on the National Express south - We've got a genius, who will be ignored, already in our midst. Just a phone call away.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that post jls. Almost brings a tear to the eye. Sadly I think you are right and we will never see the likes of MLT again. On the plus side I am old enough to remember his efforts and he is the reason I became a Saints fan. Chipmonk1
  • Score: 11

9:21am Tue 19 Aug 14

Alicesdad says...

Lambert did us proud and will remain a legend. But he's yesterdays news now and his last comment was unnecessary.

Think about it, if the owners had a different ambition for the club to Cortese then that meant they were unhappy with simply being a source of funding. Owners need a measure of control, and Cortese didnt like that.

It seems they are happy to invest in the club subject to introducing standard business management practices and controls. Cortese, who had a lot going for him in terms of ambition, wanted to be autonomous. At some point - and that point was clearly reached, he was going to want a shedload more money to expand the club and buy more players. For the owners all that looked like was a massive risk.

That level of funding requires a mentality of football obsession and scant regard for potential loss. I don't think Katarina has that, although I think she genuinely likes the club and the football matches she sees. Its clearly growing on her. But she must have looked at the club and wondered what she would get back financially.

Again - thinking about it - the stupid money offerd for the famous five was simply unbelieveable. 27 million for Shaw ... ?? 25 million for Lallana.. REALLY !! Even 20 million for Lovren was a lot although mpore realistic as he is a major stopper. These are sums for established ointernational stars .. those boys were first class... but they were not yet that good for that kind of price... so the Board must have thought it was Christmas. I think time will prove they did the right thing.

The good side of this is that the money is being reinvested - a clear sign that its NOT an asset strip. So wake up.

Lambert's comment was a needless dig. But there you go, it happens.

Koeman is now the main man - his team looks good on first showings.. we have new players to cheer and applaud, so lets get on with it.
The sooner we get past this transition the better, we are still a top premiership outfit, we may even do better than last season.
Lambert did us proud and will remain a legend. But he's yesterdays news now and his last comment was unnecessary. Think about it, if the owners had a different ambition for the club to Cortese then that meant they were unhappy with simply being a source of funding. Owners need a measure of control, and Cortese didnt like that. It seems they are happy to invest in the club subject to introducing standard business management practices and controls. Cortese, who had a lot going for him in terms of ambition, wanted to be autonomous. At some point - and that point was clearly reached, he was going to want a shedload more money to expand the club and buy more players. For the owners all that looked like was a massive risk. That level of funding requires a mentality of football obsession and scant regard for potential loss. I don't think Katarina has that, although I think she genuinely likes the club and the football matches she sees. Its clearly growing on her. But she must have looked at the club and wondered what she would get back financially. Again - thinking about it - the stupid money offerd for the famous five was simply unbelieveable. 27 million for Shaw ... ?? 25 million for Lallana.. REALLY !! Even 20 million for Lovren was a lot although mpore realistic as he is a major stopper. These are sums for established ointernational stars .. those boys were first class... but they were not yet that good for that kind of price... so the Board must have thought it was Christmas. I think time will prove they did the right thing. The good side of this is that the money is being reinvested - a clear sign that its NOT an asset strip. So wake up. Lambert's comment was a needless dig. But there you go, it happens. Koeman is now the main man - his team looks good on first showings.. we have new players to cheer and applaud, so lets get on with it. The sooner we get past this transition the better, we are still a top premiership outfit, we may even do better than last season. Alicesdad
  • Score: 23

9:23am Tue 19 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

jls217 wrote:
“It’s been surprising that it’s all been the players and none on the owners.”

Lambert added: “There’s obviously a reason why the gaffer (Mauricio Pochettino) went and I think that was the moment that I think it became clear to the players what the ambition of the club was going to be.”

Allow me to help you Ricky - It is only now the full ambition of the club is becoming clear and we still have not heard all of their plans. We replaced what we were fooled to believe at the time was the all important manager with a better one, one who will see the end of his contract with integrity and not all the time scheming until the dead line loomed. That ambition enabled this management team to rebuild a shattered team (one which you played your part in shattering) all because you all were seduced by the almighty pound notes). Now imagine if you had all stayed and been loyal and professional and saw your contracts through and Rambo had come in and purchased a couple of the players he has and will bring in over the next few years. Imagine where that team may have gone Ricky. So who's ambition faltered at the first hurdle Ricky - the wannaways (several who had gained international honours through the ambition of the club) or the boards who spend most of their time trying to patch the leaking boat as each of you sold out that ambition and waved your hands in the air volunteering to jump ship after being filled with god knows what crap when you should have all been concentrating on not embarrassing your club and your nation at the world cup?
You see Ricky when you start stirring the mud at the bottom of a puddle you never know what you might uncover, or disguise even further. The little shrimp at the bottom of the puddle may see it all very differently to the person stamping in the puddle to cause the cloudy water so as to carry out what it is they have in mind eh!? In the cases of the wannaways - yourself included, sheer self interest with barely a thought to anyone, anything elses ambition for the club - just your own self interest. Now **** off because, I for one, am done with you.
Don't have a problem with any of that, I feel we have all or a lot on here been to ready to get behind those who have turned their backs on the club and mindlessly have a go at those that have stayed and not only steadied the ship but from what I can see are going to make it a better boat to sail in.

All the ex mercenaries can fu?? off and a big well done to the board, the owner and RK come on you saints.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: “It’s been surprising that it’s all been the players and none on the owners.” Lambert added: “There’s obviously a reason why the gaffer (Mauricio Pochettino) went and I think that was the moment that I think it became clear to the players what the ambition of the club was going to be.” Allow me to help you Ricky - It is only now the full ambition of the club is becoming clear and we still have not heard all of their plans. We replaced what we were fooled to believe at the time was the all important manager with a better one, one who will see the end of his contract with integrity and not all the time scheming until the dead line loomed. That ambition enabled this management team to rebuild a shattered team (one which you played your part in shattering) all because you all were seduced by the almighty pound notes). Now imagine if you had all stayed and been loyal and professional and saw your contracts through and Rambo had come in and purchased a couple of the players he has and will bring in over the next few years. Imagine where that team may have gone Ricky. So who's ambition faltered at the first hurdle Ricky - the wannaways (several who had gained international honours through the ambition of the club) or the boards who spend most of their time trying to patch the leaking boat as each of you sold out that ambition and waved your hands in the air volunteering to jump ship after being filled with god knows what crap when you should have all been concentrating on not embarrassing your club and your nation at the world cup? You see Ricky when you start stirring the mud at the bottom of a puddle you never know what you might uncover, or disguise even further. The little shrimp at the bottom of the puddle may see it all very differently to the person stamping in the puddle to cause the cloudy water so as to carry out what it is they have in mind eh!? In the cases of the wannaways - yourself included, sheer self interest with barely a thought to anyone, anything elses ambition for the club - just your own self interest. Now **** off because, I for one, am done with you.[/p][/quote]Don't have a problem with any of that, I feel we have all or a lot on here been to ready to get behind those who have turned their backs on the club and mindlessly have a go at those that have stayed and not only steadied the ship but from what I can see are going to make it a better boat to sail in. All the ex mercenaries can fu?? off and a big well done to the board, the owner and RK come on you saints. fascia123
  • Score: 9

9:24am Tue 19 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Folkestone Saint wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
Lambert added: “There’s obviously a reason why the gaffer (Mauricio Pochettino) went and I think that was the moment that I think it became clear to the players what the ambition of the club was going to be.”

Unnecessary comment, designed to muddy the waters. Shame on you Rickie.

I think it is well documented that the board offered MP and his staff, a very good contract to stay on, to complete the job.
It is also very well documented that MP stated that he couldn't see a future at the club, post Cortese, before the board had even been stabilised.
MP painted himself into a corner, with that comment, and from the rumours circulating since the many departures, it is becoming clear that not only did he have no intention of staying, but that several players KNEW he was leaving well before he actually did leave.
And well before he notified his employers of his intentions.

Many supporters, from watching the players awards, could see Liellana was off, and this was before MP had announced his departure.
I've see a credible comment, reference MP offering to take JRod to his next new club, as long ago as March.
Even Lovren knew MP was leaving, before MP resigned.

This whole departure and blame it on the board's lack of ambition scenario, IMO, has been a very clever, and very well choreographed exercise, by MP and the pro Cortese "rebels".
The only reason why, IMO, they are trotting out the lack of ambition story, is because the board did not cave in and release them immediately, and for lesser fees.
The board made them sweat and put their "dream" moves in doubt, so they squinnied like children.

That Rickie has decided to make this comment, even though he was allowed to go so speedily and for a relatively low amount, is disrespectful, not just to the board, but to the fans, who deserve to be allowed to move on, without ex players dropping little "innuendo time bombs" into interviews.
If they really want to criticise the board's lack of ambition, then maybe they should put some meat on the bones and explain their cryptic comments.
Well said Baz, my sentiments entirely, I always felt that potti-chino's was NEVER here for us but for what we could do for him, on this occasion I was right even though I wish I was wrong, untill Ron stepped in that is, we will be laughing a "plan a spuds" as we pass them in the league, and the chokers from livermoan.
At last there seems to be an outbreak of rationality about the Machiavellian scheming going on in the lead up to the exodus.

I doubt the board was completely blameless, with the wisdom of hindsight there are probably things which could have been said or deeds that could've been done (for example not hiring pinchatinny in the first place because all in the same breath he was the best and the worst thing to have happened to us in the space of one season). I think maybe the board were hapless, every time they stemmed one attack another came and from those who should have been responsible for saving the club from itself too.
[quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: Lambert added: “There’s obviously a reason why the gaffer (Mauricio Pochettino) went and I think that was the moment that I think it became clear to the players what the ambition of the club was going to be.” Unnecessary comment, designed to muddy the waters. Shame on you Rickie. I think it is well documented that the board offered MP and his staff, a very good contract to stay on, to complete the job. It is also very well documented that MP stated that he couldn't see a future at the club, post Cortese, before the board had even been stabilised. MP painted himself into a corner, with that comment, and from the rumours circulating since the many departures, it is becoming clear that not only did he have no intention of staying, but that several players KNEW he was leaving well before he actually did leave. And well before he notified his employers of his intentions. Many supporters, from watching the players awards, could see Liellana was off, and this was before MP had announced his departure. I've see a credible comment, reference MP offering to take JRod to his next new club, as long ago as March. Even Lovren knew MP was leaving, before MP resigned. This whole departure and blame it on the board's lack of ambition scenario, IMO, has been a very clever, and very well choreographed exercise, by MP and the pro Cortese "rebels". The only reason why, IMO, they are trotting out the lack of ambition story, is because the board did not cave in and release them immediately, and for lesser fees. The board made them sweat and put their "dream" moves in doubt, so they squinnied like children. That Rickie has decided to make this comment, even though he was allowed to go so speedily and for a relatively low amount, is disrespectful, not just to the board, but to the fans, who deserve to be allowed to move on, without ex players dropping little "innuendo time bombs" into interviews. If they really want to criticise the board's lack of ambition, then maybe they should put some meat on the bones and explain their cryptic comments.[/p][/quote]Well said Baz, my sentiments entirely, I always felt that potti-chino's was NEVER here for us but for what we could do for him, on this occasion I was right even though I wish I was wrong, untill Ron stepped in that is, we will be laughing a "plan a spuds" as we pass them in the league, and the chokers from livermoan.[/p][/quote]At last there seems to be an outbreak of rationality about the Machiavellian scheming going on in the lead up to the exodus. I doubt the board was completely blameless, with the wisdom of hindsight there are probably things which could have been said or deeds that could've been done (for example not hiring pinchatinny in the first place because all in the same breath he was the best and the worst thing to have happened to us in the space of one season). I think maybe the board were hapless, every time they stemmed one attack another came and from those who should have been responsible for saving the club from itself too. jls217
  • Score: 9

9:31am Tue 19 Aug 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

Paul Lambert having a dig at Big Ron

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Paul Lambert having a dig at Big Ron http://www1.skysport s.com/transfer/news/ 12691/9429276/transf er-news-paul-lambert -blasts-ronald-koema n-over-southamptons- pursuit-of-aston-vil las-ron-vlaar SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: 1

9:34am Tue 19 Aug 14

TGodSFC says...

TGodSFC wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
St Mark wrote:
milton road wrote:
If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but
Thank you
I don't see it - would like to complain if I could.
utter disgrace!!!
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Emailed the guardian. I ask you all to please do the same !!! gallery@theguardian,

com

I was just directed to your website with your cartoon gallery of Ronald Koeman and I would like to make a formal complaint about it. It may be seen as a joke but realistically is comes across as an attack on an innocent party. Southampton FC have been through the wars this summer and this piece comes across as an attack by you on one of England’s great football clubs. It’s in complete poor taste and seems to me that if you would run something like this (even if it’s a joke) you clearly have no idea what’s going on at the club and what real journalism is! It’s clear to us and will become clear to you small minded people that the sale of certain players was for the best interest of SFC in the long run. I’m angered and disgusted by this article so much so I demand you to take it down and issue a formal apology.
Also told everyone i know on twiter to complain about this article, really has fcked me off!! Our club gets attacked by the media all summer long, stand up and be counted!!
[quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Mark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but Thank you[/p][/quote]I don't see it - would like to complain if I could.[/p][/quote]utter disgrace!!! http://www.theguardi an.com/football/gall ery/2014/aug/19/rona ld-koeman-the-galler y-southampton#/?pict ure=444738263&in dex= 6[/p][/quote]Emailed the guardian. I ask you all to please do the same !!! gallery@theguardian, com I was just directed to your website with your cartoon gallery of Ronald Koeman and I would like to make a formal complaint about it. It may be seen as a joke but realistically is comes across as an attack on an innocent party. Southampton FC have been through the wars this summer and this piece comes across as an attack by you on one of England’s great football clubs. It’s in complete poor taste and seems to me that if you would run something like this (even if it’s a joke) you clearly have no idea what’s going on at the club and what real journalism is! It’s clear to us and will become clear to you small minded people that the sale of certain players was for the best interest of SFC in the long run. I’m angered and disgusted by this article so much so I demand you to take it down and issue a formal apology.[/p][/quote]Also told everyone i know on twiter to complain about this article, really has fcked me off!! Our club gets attacked by the media all summer long, stand up and be counted!! TGodSFC
  • Score: 8

9:37am Tue 19 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Chipmonk1 wrote:
jls217 wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
I think Rickie is sincere and really does have much respect for us. Perhaps he got In a bit of a tangle in the interview about the summer at St. Mary's but though he no longer plays for us, his contribution will never be forgotten.

Many clubs have a goalkeeping coach and it occurs to me that one day Rickie could be a useful Striker coach - at St. Mary's?
Oh, dear! 3 thumbs down in 30 minutes. Why is this seen as a bad idea?
Because we already have the finest goal scoring machine this club has ever had a phone call away. This machine was also the finest dribbler, reader of the game, free kick specialist and penalty taker (and finest pie eater too) all rolled into one. Lambert pales by comparison.
It will never happen though because the pie eater will never conform to FA, EUFA or FIFA robotic coaching courses or techniques when he knows what made him the most compelling footballer of his generation, the most entertaining and the most efficient at his job was pure uncoachable, unspoilt, undiluted joy of the game and the desire and abilities to try and succeed at the unconventional and improbable and which got him on goal of the month and won him man of the match and had Messi admitting it was him who he (Messi) had emulated when it came to goal scoring. Yet no club will take the risk of hiring him as such because he never ran himself into the ground, tracking back, and all the other football cliches used for players who fit the mould required. He just allowed his own mould to form and worked hard to perfect his own mould. Those posting here too young to have been thrilled by the sight of him leaving three or four defenders (all FA approved coached) wondering where the hell he'd gone or what had just happened to them as they had just been given a lesson in football genius. Or a keeper who had just been deceived by a ball which had just bent from an impossible angle and whacked into the back of the net (still rising) from 30 yards out.
There are those of us on here who will go to our deathbeds running those through our minds and wondering if we will ever see that sort of genius again. Alas - we probably will not and neither will you because it is coached out of them as opposed to allowing the youngster free will to develop what the pie eater might be able to encourage them to learn for themselves through hours of trial and error.
That is why we don't want the likes of Lambert and the fact that he left us when we needed him most might have a little something to do with it too. Also the way he is still espousing the dirt on the club in public too.
No he doesn't need to get on the National Express south - We've got a genius, who will be ignored, already in our midst. Just a phone call away.
Thanks for that post jls. Almost brings a tear to the eye. Sadly I think you are right and we will never see the likes of MLT again. On the plus side I am old enough to remember his efforts and he is the reason I became a Saints fan.
Love it. Ron Davies was the one who really hooked me. Been watching them from the late 50's with mild interest but when I watched Ron battering CB's and keepers out of his way I had become a real convert. Then started taking note of Paine and Channon and realized I had just caught a disease for which there is no cure. Here I am still suffering from it and for it.
[quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: I think Rickie is sincere and really does have much respect for us. Perhaps he got In a bit of a tangle in the interview about the summer at St. Mary's but though he no longer plays for us, his contribution will never be forgotten. Many clubs have a goalkeeping coach and it occurs to me that one day Rickie could be a useful Striker coach - at St. Mary's?[/p][/quote]Oh, dear! 3 thumbs down in 30 minutes. Why is this seen as a bad idea?[/p][/quote]Because we already have the finest goal scoring machine this club has ever had a phone call away. This machine was also the finest dribbler, reader of the game, free kick specialist and penalty taker (and finest pie eater too) all rolled into one. Lambert pales by comparison. It will never happen though because the pie eater will never conform to FA, EUFA or FIFA robotic coaching courses or techniques when he knows what made him the most compelling footballer of his generation, the most entertaining and the most efficient at his job was pure uncoachable, unspoilt, undiluted joy of the game and the desire and abilities to try and succeed at the unconventional and improbable and which got him on goal of the month and won him man of the match and had Messi admitting it was him who he (Messi) had emulated when it came to goal scoring. Yet no club will take the risk of hiring him as such because he never ran himself into the ground, tracking back, and all the other football cliches used for players who fit the mould required. He just allowed his own mould to form and worked hard to perfect his own mould. Those posting here too young to have been thrilled by the sight of him leaving three or four defenders (all FA approved coached) wondering where the hell he'd gone or what had just happened to them as they had just been given a lesson in football genius. Or a keeper who had just been deceived by a ball which had just bent from an impossible angle and whacked into the back of the net (still rising) from 30 yards out. There are those of us on here who will go to our deathbeds running those through our minds and wondering if we will ever see that sort of genius again. Alas - we probably will not and neither will you because it is coached out of them as opposed to allowing the youngster free will to develop what the pie eater might be able to encourage them to learn for themselves through hours of trial and error. That is why we don't want the likes of Lambert and the fact that he left us when we needed him most might have a little something to do with it too. Also the way he is still espousing the dirt on the club in public too. No he doesn't need to get on the National Express south - We've got a genius, who will be ignored, already in our midst. Just a phone call away.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that post jls. Almost brings a tear to the eye. Sadly I think you are right and we will never see the likes of MLT again. On the plus side I am old enough to remember his efforts and he is the reason I became a Saints fan.[/p][/quote]Love it. Ron Davies was the one who really hooked me. Been watching them from the late 50's with mild interest but when I watched Ron battering CB's and keepers out of his way I had become a real convert. Then started taking note of Paine and Channon and realized I had just caught a disease for which there is no cure. Here I am still suffering from it and for it. jls217
  • Score: 14

9:38am Tue 19 Aug 14

saintforever says...

Costa Baz wrote:
Lambert added: “There’s obviously a reason why the gaffer (Mauricio Pochettino) went and I think that was the moment that I think it became clear to the players what the ambition of the club was going to be.”

Unnecessary comment, designed to muddy the waters. Shame on you Rickie.

I think it is well documented that the board offered MP and his staff, a very good contract to stay on, to complete the job.
It is also very well documented that MP stated that he couldn't see a future at the club, post Cortese, before the board had even been stabilised.
MP painted himself into a corner, with that comment, and from the rumours circulating since the many departures, it is becoming clear that not only did he have no intention of staying, but that several players KNEW he was leaving well before he actually did leave.
And well before he notified his employers of his intentions.

Many supporters, from watching the players awards, could see Liellana was off, and this was before MP had announced his departure.
I've see a credible comment, reference MP offering to take JRod to his next new club, as long ago as March.
Even Lovren knew MP was leaving, before MP resigned.

This whole departure and blame it on the board's lack of ambition scenario, IMO, has been a very clever, and very well choreographed exercise, by MP and the pro Cortese "rebels".
The only reason why, IMO, they are trotting out the lack of ambition story, is because the board did not cave in and release them immediately, and for lesser fees.
The board made them sweat and put their "dream" moves in doubt, so they squinnied like children.

That Rickie has decided to make this comment, even though he was allowed to go so speedily and for a relatively low amount, is disrespectful, not just to the board, but to the fans, who deserve to be allowed to move on, without ex players dropping little "innuendo time bombs" into interviews.
If they really want to criticise the board's lack of ambition, then maybe they should put some meat on the bones and explain their cryptic comments.
great piece -i agree totally.
i hope rickie now keeps his mouth shut otherwise he will lose some of the saints fans he says he loves.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: Lambert added: “There’s obviously a reason why the gaffer (Mauricio Pochettino) went and I think that was the moment that I think it became clear to the players what the ambition of the club was going to be.” Unnecessary comment, designed to muddy the waters. Shame on you Rickie. I think it is well documented that the board offered MP and his staff, a very good contract to stay on, to complete the job. It is also very well documented that MP stated that he couldn't see a future at the club, post Cortese, before the board had even been stabilised. MP painted himself into a corner, with that comment, and from the rumours circulating since the many departures, it is becoming clear that not only did he have no intention of staying, but that several players KNEW he was leaving well before he actually did leave. And well before he notified his employers of his intentions. Many supporters, from watching the players awards, could see Liellana was off, and this was before MP had announced his departure. I've see a credible comment, reference MP offering to take JRod to his next new club, as long ago as March. Even Lovren knew MP was leaving, before MP resigned. This whole departure and blame it on the board's lack of ambition scenario, IMO, has been a very clever, and very well choreographed exercise, by MP and the pro Cortese "rebels". The only reason why, IMO, they are trotting out the lack of ambition story, is because the board did not cave in and release them immediately, and for lesser fees. The board made them sweat and put their "dream" moves in doubt, so they squinnied like children. That Rickie has decided to make this comment, even though he was allowed to go so speedily and for a relatively low amount, is disrespectful, not just to the board, but to the fans, who deserve to be allowed to move on, without ex players dropping little "innuendo time bombs" into interviews. If they really want to criticise the board's lack of ambition, then maybe they should put some meat on the bones and explain their cryptic comments.[/p][/quote]great piece -i agree totally. i hope rickie now keeps his mouth shut otherwise he will lose some of the saints fans he says he loves. saintforever
  • Score: 6

9:44am Tue 19 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

TGodSFC wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
St Mark wrote:
milton road wrote:
If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but
Thank you
I don't see it - would like to complain if I could.
utter disgrace!!!
http://www.theguardi



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Emailed the guardian. I ask you all to please do the same !!! gallery@theguardian,


com

I was just directed to your website with your cartoon gallery of Ronald Koeman and I would like to make a formal complaint about it. It may be seen as a joke but realistically is comes across as an attack on an innocent party. Southampton FC have been through the wars this summer and this piece comes across as an attack by you on one of England’s great football clubs. It’s in complete poor taste and seems to me that if you would run something like this (even if it’s a joke) you clearly have no idea what’s going on at the club and what real journalism is! It’s clear to us and will become clear to you small minded people that the sale of certain players was for the best interest of SFC in the long run. I’m angered and disgusted by this article so much so I demand you to take it down and issue a formal apology.
Also told everyone i know on twiter to complain about this article, really has fcked me off!! Our club gets attacked by the media all summer long, stand up and be counted!!
I saw it too. Just thought that the people who made these collages are already beginning to look a bit stupid.

BTW, did you see the one of Suarez's replacement at Liverpool: Sturridge with vampire teeth. They're inviting entries for their next competition on the theme of van Gaal. I'm sure something could be done with photos of a wad of money, an overweight Luke Shaw and van Gaal.
[quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Mark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but Thank you[/p][/quote]I don't see it - would like to complain if I could.[/p][/quote]utter disgrace!!! http://www.theguardi an.com/football/gall ery/2014/aug/19/rona ld-koeman-the-galler y-southampton#/?pict ure=444738263&in dex= 6[/p][/quote]Emailed the guardian. I ask you all to please do the same !!! gallery@theguardian, com I was just directed to your website with your cartoon gallery of Ronald Koeman and I would like to make a formal complaint about it. It may be seen as a joke but realistically is comes across as an attack on an innocent party. Southampton FC have been through the wars this summer and this piece comes across as an attack by you on one of England’s great football clubs. It’s in complete poor taste and seems to me that if you would run something like this (even if it’s a joke) you clearly have no idea what’s going on at the club and what real journalism is! It’s clear to us and will become clear to you small minded people that the sale of certain players was for the best interest of SFC in the long run. I’m angered and disgusted by this article so much so I demand you to take it down and issue a formal apology.[/p][/quote]Also told everyone i know on twiter to complain about this article, really has fcked me off!! Our club gets attacked by the media all summer long, stand up and be counted!![/p][/quote]I saw it too. Just thought that the people who made these collages are already beginning to look a bit stupid. BTW, did you see the one of Suarez's replacement at Liverpool: Sturridge with vampire teeth. They're inviting entries for their next competition on the theme of van Gaal. I'm sure something could be done with photos of a wad of money, an overweight Luke Shaw and van Gaal. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

9:45am Tue 19 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Alicesdad wrote:
Lambert did us proud and will remain a legend. But he's yesterdays news now and his last comment was unnecessary.

Think about it, if the owners had a different ambition for the club to Cortese then that meant they were unhappy with simply being a source of funding. Owners need a measure of control, and Cortese didnt like that.

It seems they are happy to invest in the club subject to introducing standard business management practices and controls. Cortese, who had a lot going for him in terms of ambition, wanted to be autonomous. At some point - and that point was clearly reached, he was going to want a shedload more money to expand the club and buy more players. For the owners all that looked like was a massive risk.

That level of funding requires a mentality of football obsession and scant regard for potential loss. I don't think Katarina has that, although I think she genuinely likes the club and the football matches she sees. Its clearly growing on her. But she must have looked at the club and wondered what she would get back financially.

Again - thinking about it - the stupid money offerd for the famous five was simply unbelieveable. 27 million for Shaw ... ?? 25 million for Lallana.. REALLY !! Even 20 million for Lovren was a lot although mpore realistic as he is a major stopper. These are sums for established ointernational stars .. those boys were first class... but they were not yet that good for that kind of price... so the Board must have thought it was Christmas. I think time will prove they did the right thing.

The good side of this is that the money is being reinvested - a clear sign that its NOT an asset strip. So wake up.

Lambert's comment was a needless dig. But there you go, it happens.

Koeman is now the main man - his team looks good on first showings.. we have new players to cheer and applaud, so lets get on with it.
The sooner we get past this transition the better, we are still a top premiership outfit, we may even do better than last season.
Agree with most of what you are saying here, good post.

Do you really think she looked at NCs vision and thought what will I get in return for my investment?

Or do you think she thought looked where the club is today with the investment of my fathers money, he would be so proud if he were still here, I know it pains me to say Cortese helped us to this position, but do you think she put her financial head on and thought all this progress and stability could be blown out of the water by one mans vision?

Let's look at the costs

You would of needed 4/5 more top players on big wages and had to pay big transfer fees for them.

This wage structure would of had to be used throughout the club certainly all the want aways would of wanted top dollar.

The manager would of wanted a better deal.

Now the only way this could of anyway near of been funded is with more bums on seats, what cost to expand the stadium to get another 10/15 thousand in, massive investment, do we have the following week in week out, how many sell outs last term in a season where we have had a good season?

What would of happened if we expanded the stadium, invested in the new payers, changed the wage structure and the results didn't come, suddenly we have a half empty stadium, what next, FINANCIAL RUIN.

Chairman and manager do a runner, players all have to be sold, back where ML came in.

I think the route that has been taken by KL shows she cares about the long term future of the club and should be applauded and full support given to the board, the new manager and the new team and should be given in large doses.

Up the saints.
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Lambert did us proud and will remain a legend. But he's yesterdays news now and his last comment was unnecessary. Think about it, if the owners had a different ambition for the club to Cortese then that meant they were unhappy with simply being a source of funding. Owners need a measure of control, and Cortese didnt like that. It seems they are happy to invest in the club subject to introducing standard business management practices and controls. Cortese, who had a lot going for him in terms of ambition, wanted to be autonomous. At some point - and that point was clearly reached, he was going to want a shedload more money to expand the club and buy more players. For the owners all that looked like was a massive risk. That level of funding requires a mentality of football obsession and scant regard for potential loss. I don't think Katarina has that, although I think she genuinely likes the club and the football matches she sees. Its clearly growing on her. But she must have looked at the club and wondered what she would get back financially. Again - thinking about it - the stupid money offerd for the famous five was simply unbelieveable. 27 million for Shaw ... ?? 25 million for Lallana.. REALLY !! Even 20 million for Lovren was a lot although mpore realistic as he is a major stopper. These are sums for established ointernational stars .. those boys were first class... but they were not yet that good for that kind of price... so the Board must have thought it was Christmas. I think time will prove they did the right thing. The good side of this is that the money is being reinvested - a clear sign that its NOT an asset strip. So wake up. Lambert's comment was a needless dig. But there you go, it happens. Koeman is now the main man - his team looks good on first showings.. we have new players to cheer and applaud, so lets get on with it. The sooner we get past this transition the better, we are still a top premiership outfit, we may even do better than last season.[/p][/quote]Agree with most of what you are saying here, good post. Do you really think she looked at NCs vision and thought what will I get in return for my investment? Or do you think she thought looked where the club is today with the investment of my fathers money, he would be so proud if he were still here, I know it pains me to say Cortese helped us to this position, but do you think she put her financial head on and thought all this progress and stability could be blown out of the water by one mans vision? Let's look at the costs You would of needed 4/5 more top players on big wages and had to pay big transfer fees for them. This wage structure would of had to be used throughout the club certainly all the want aways would of wanted top dollar. The manager would of wanted a better deal. Now the only way this could of anyway near of been funded is with more bums on seats, what cost to expand the stadium to get another 10/15 thousand in, massive investment, do we have the following week in week out, how many sell outs last term in a season where we have had a good season? What would of happened if we expanded the stadium, invested in the new payers, changed the wage structure and the results didn't come, suddenly we have a half empty stadium, what next, FINANCIAL RUIN. Chairman and manager do a runner, players all have to be sold, back where ML came in. I think the route that has been taken by KL shows she cares about the long term future of the club and should be applauded and full support given to the board, the new manager and the new team and should be given in large doses. Up the saints. fascia123
  • Score: 13

9:53am Tue 19 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

jls217 wrote:
Chipmonk1 wrote:
jls217 wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
I think Rickie is sincere and really does have much respect for us. Perhaps he got In a bit of a tangle in the interview about the summer at St. Mary's but though he no longer plays for us, his contribution will never be forgotten.

Many clubs have a goalkeeping coach and it occurs to me that one day Rickie could be a useful Striker coach - at St. Mary's?
Oh, dear! 3 thumbs down in 30 minutes. Why is this seen as a bad idea?
Because we already have the finest goal scoring machine this club has ever had a phone call away. This machine was also the finest dribbler, reader of the game, free kick specialist and penalty taker (and finest pie eater too) all rolled into one. Lambert pales by comparison.
It will never happen though because the pie eater will never conform to FA, EUFA or FIFA robotic coaching courses or techniques when he knows what made him the most compelling footballer of his generation, the most entertaining and the most efficient at his job was pure uncoachable, unspoilt, undiluted joy of the game and the desire and abilities to try and succeed at the unconventional and improbable and which got him on goal of the month and won him man of the match and had Messi admitting it was him who he (Messi) had emulated when it came to goal scoring. Yet no club will take the risk of hiring him as such because he never ran himself into the ground, tracking back, and all the other football cliches used for players who fit the mould required. He just allowed his own mould to form and worked hard to perfect his own mould. Those posting here too young to have been thrilled by the sight of him leaving three or four defenders (all FA approved coached) wondering where the hell he'd gone or what had just happened to them as they had just been given a lesson in football genius. Or a keeper who had just been deceived by a ball which had just bent from an impossible angle and whacked into the back of the net (still rising) from 30 yards out.
There are those of us on here who will go to our deathbeds running those through our minds and wondering if we will ever see that sort of genius again. Alas - we probably will not and neither will you because it is coached out of them as opposed to allowing the youngster free will to develop what the pie eater might be able to encourage them to learn for themselves through hours of trial and error.
That is why we don't want the likes of Lambert and the fact that he left us when we needed him most might have a little something to do with it too. Also the way he is still espousing the dirt on the club in public too.
No he doesn't need to get on the National Express south - We've got a genius, who will be ignored, already in our midst. Just a phone call away.
Thanks for that post jls. Almost brings a tear to the eye. Sadly I think you are right and we will never see the likes of MLT again. On the plus side I am old enough to remember his efforts and he is the reason I became a Saints fan.
Love it. Ron Davies was the one who really hooked me. Been watching them from the late 50's with mild interest but when I watched Ron battering CB's and keepers out of his way I had become a real convert. Then started taking note of Paine and Channon and realized I had just caught a disease for which there is no cure. Here I am still suffering from it and for it.
My first game was in 1968 as a 10 year old against Wolves at the Dell, my dad had me on his shoulders and a policeman said do you want to put him over the wall on the shingle pitch side he said I will keep my eye on him, I was sat by one of the dugouts.

Can you imagine that happening nowadays, have been hooked ever since.

Ron Davies played that day and I am sure he scored.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: I think Rickie is sincere and really does have much respect for us. Perhaps he got In a bit of a tangle in the interview about the summer at St. Mary's but though he no longer plays for us, his contribution will never be forgotten. Many clubs have a goalkeeping coach and it occurs to me that one day Rickie could be a useful Striker coach - at St. Mary's?[/p][/quote]Oh, dear! 3 thumbs down in 30 minutes. Why is this seen as a bad idea?[/p][/quote]Because we already have the finest goal scoring machine this club has ever had a phone call away. This machine was also the finest dribbler, reader of the game, free kick specialist and penalty taker (and finest pie eater too) all rolled into one. Lambert pales by comparison. It will never happen though because the pie eater will never conform to FA, EUFA or FIFA robotic coaching courses or techniques when he knows what made him the most compelling footballer of his generation, the most entertaining and the most efficient at his job was pure uncoachable, unspoilt, undiluted joy of the game and the desire and abilities to try and succeed at the unconventional and improbable and which got him on goal of the month and won him man of the match and had Messi admitting it was him who he (Messi) had emulated when it came to goal scoring. Yet no club will take the risk of hiring him as such because he never ran himself into the ground, tracking back, and all the other football cliches used for players who fit the mould required. He just allowed his own mould to form and worked hard to perfect his own mould. Those posting here too young to have been thrilled by the sight of him leaving three or four defenders (all FA approved coached) wondering where the hell he'd gone or what had just happened to them as they had just been given a lesson in football genius. Or a keeper who had just been deceived by a ball which had just bent from an impossible angle and whacked into the back of the net (still rising) from 30 yards out. There are those of us on here who will go to our deathbeds running those through our minds and wondering if we will ever see that sort of genius again. Alas - we probably will not and neither will you because it is coached out of them as opposed to allowing the youngster free will to develop what the pie eater might be able to encourage them to learn for themselves through hours of trial and error. That is why we don't want the likes of Lambert and the fact that he left us when we needed him most might have a little something to do with it too. Also the way he is still espousing the dirt on the club in public too. No he doesn't need to get on the National Express south - We've got a genius, who will be ignored, already in our midst. Just a phone call away.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that post jls. Almost brings a tear to the eye. Sadly I think you are right and we will never see the likes of MLT again. On the plus side I am old enough to remember his efforts and he is the reason I became a Saints fan.[/p][/quote]Love it. Ron Davies was the one who really hooked me. Been watching them from the late 50's with mild interest but when I watched Ron battering CB's and keepers out of his way I had become a real convert. Then started taking note of Paine and Channon and realized I had just caught a disease for which there is no cure. Here I am still suffering from it and for it.[/p][/quote]My first game was in 1968 as a 10 year old against Wolves at the Dell, my dad had me on his shoulders and a policeman said do you want to put him over the wall on the shingle pitch side he said I will keep my eye on him, I was sat by one of the dugouts. Can you imagine that happening nowadays, have been hooked ever since. Ron Davies played that day and I am sure he scored. fascia123
  • Score: 8

9:55am Tue 19 Aug 14

jls217 says...

TGodSFC wrote:
St Mark wrote:
milton road wrote:
If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but
Thank you
I don't see it - would like to complain if I could.
utter disgrace!!!
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No it's not a disgrace. You can make the choice to be indignantly offended ( I **** hate that word it's........... well, offensive) if you wish - your choice to make what ever you want seem offensive.

I do not - I've just looked through this and the other galleries and it's rather , pithy, sarcastic, observant and funny.

Saints played a blinder of a game under circumstances which lead many to think we might have been slaughtered, we dominated whole swathes of that game and looked the most likely to win it. However, on reading 3 major Monday news rags I find all the column inches and photos to be all about Skiverpool's rebuilding and money spent and how Sturridge stole the show and Rogered Brenda's style etc etc bloody etc. In the middle of the Liverhampton adulation pages there was a rather begrudged. "Well the visiting team did okay to weather the storm" WTF! We shoved it right up them! The point I'm making is that if it's a cartoon mickey taking session that is going to get us mentioned in the press then let's have some more of it because our football prowess as admirable as it was barely got a bloody mention. Noticed the same for the Manky Schitty and Manure games too - the opposition were hardly mentioned.
I despair but at least when I saw the lampooning I was chuckling and despairing at the same time. Lighten up mate it was funny and if we can't laugh at ourselves we may as well just lay in bed all day with the duvet over our heads wishing the nasty world to go away. Can I have a Lallana to go with the Lambert - hurtful comic genius.
[quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Mark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but Thank you[/p][/quote]I don't see it - would like to complain if I could.[/p][/quote]utter disgrace!!! http://www.theguardi an.com/football/gall ery/2014/aug/19/rona ld-koeman-the-galler y-southampton#/?pict ure=444738263&in dex= 6[/p][/quote]No it's not a disgrace. You can make the choice to be indignantly offended ( I **** hate that word it's........... well, offensive) if you wish - your choice to make what ever you want seem offensive. I do not - I've just looked through this and the other galleries and it's rather , pithy, sarcastic, observant and funny. Saints played a blinder of a game under circumstances which lead many to think we might have been slaughtered, we dominated whole swathes of that game and looked the most likely to win it. However, on reading 3 major Monday news rags I find all the column inches and photos to be all about Skiverpool's rebuilding and money spent and how Sturridge stole the show and Rogered Brenda's style etc etc bloody etc. In the middle of the Liverhampton adulation pages there was a rather begrudged. "Well the visiting team did okay to weather the storm" WTF! We shoved it right up them! The point I'm making is that if it's a cartoon mickey taking session that is going to get us mentioned in the press then let's have some more of it because our football prowess as admirable as it was barely got a bloody mention. Noticed the same for the Manky Schitty and Manure games too - the opposition were hardly mentioned. I despair but at least when I saw the lampooning I was chuckling and despairing at the same time. Lighten up mate it was funny and if we can't laugh at ourselves we may as well just lay in bed all day with the duvet over our heads wishing the nasty world to go away. Can I have a Lallana to go with the Lambert - hurtful comic genius. jls217
  • Score: 2

9:58am Tue 19 Aug 14

TGodSFC says...

Rising_Son wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
St Mark wrote:
milton road wrote:
If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but
Thank you
I don't see it - would like to complain if I could.
utter disgrace!!!
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Emailed the guardian. I ask you all to please do the same !!! gallery@theguardian,



com

I was just directed to your website with your cartoon gallery of Ronald Koeman and I would like to make a formal complaint about it. It may be seen as a joke but realistically is comes across as an attack on an innocent party. Southampton FC have been through the wars this summer and this piece comes across as an attack by you on one of England’s great football clubs. It’s in complete poor taste and seems to me that if you would run something like this (even if it’s a joke) you clearly have no idea what’s going on at the club and what real journalism is! It’s clear to us and will become clear to you small minded people that the sale of certain players was for the best interest of SFC in the long run. I’m angered and disgusted by this article so much so I demand you to take it down and issue a formal apology.
Also told everyone i know on twiter to complain about this article, really has fcked me off!! Our club gets attacked by the media all summer long, stand up and be counted!!
I saw it too. Just thought that the people who made these collages are already beginning to look a bit stupid.

BTW, did you see the one of Suarez's replacement at Liverpool: Sturridge with vampire teeth. They're inviting entries for their next competition on the theme of van Gaal. I'm sure something could be done with photos of a wad of money, an overweight Luke Shaw and van Gaal.
Just seems tacky an in poor taste really. Think they get people to make their own and send them in for prizes?? I certainly wont be buying the Guardian ever!
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Mark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but Thank you[/p][/quote]I don't see it - would like to complain if I could.[/p][/quote]utter disgrace!!! http://www.theguardi an.com/football/gall ery/2014/aug/19/rona ld-koeman-the-galler y-southampton#/?pict ure=444738263&in dex= 6[/p][/quote]Emailed the guardian. I ask you all to please do the same !!! gallery@theguardian, com I was just directed to your website with your cartoon gallery of Ronald Koeman and I would like to make a formal complaint about it. It may be seen as a joke but realistically is comes across as an attack on an innocent party. Southampton FC have been through the wars this summer and this piece comes across as an attack by you on one of England’s great football clubs. It’s in complete poor taste and seems to me that if you would run something like this (even if it’s a joke) you clearly have no idea what’s going on at the club and what real journalism is! It’s clear to us and will become clear to you small minded people that the sale of certain players was for the best interest of SFC in the long run. I’m angered and disgusted by this article so much so I demand you to take it down and issue a formal apology.[/p][/quote]Also told everyone i know on twiter to complain about this article, really has fcked me off!! Our club gets attacked by the media all summer long, stand up and be counted!![/p][/quote]I saw it too. Just thought that the people who made these collages are already beginning to look a bit stupid. BTW, did you see the one of Suarez's replacement at Liverpool: Sturridge with vampire teeth. They're inviting entries for their next competition on the theme of van Gaal. I'm sure something could be done with photos of a wad of money, an overweight Luke Shaw and van Gaal.[/p][/quote]Just seems tacky an in poor taste really. Think they get people to make their own and send them in for prizes?? I certainly wont be buying the Guardian ever! TGodSFC
  • Score: 0

9:58am Tue 19 Aug 14

bathsaints says...

I don't understand what the media's problem is. We are a smallish club who has risen through the leagues playing good football developing good english players trying to run in a financially solvent way who for whatever reason have been hung out to dry by some mercenary players who seem to think money = success. We have bought in a great manager who wanted to improve his english before starting, who speaks with common sense and who has ambition so why do we get knocked so badly. Yes the board may well be inept and inexperienced and have made mistakes but they are not the essence of this football club, we the fans are and those who have remained loyal and want to give their all. I am fed up of reading negative press all the time. I really hope we have a good season and that Big Ron continues to act with dignity and that some our performances make those that write this carp and those players who forced through moves away eat humble pie!
I don't understand what the media's problem is. We are a smallish club who has risen through the leagues playing good football developing good english players trying to run in a financially solvent way who for whatever reason have been hung out to dry by some mercenary players who seem to think money = success. We have bought in a great manager who wanted to improve his english before starting, who speaks with common sense and who has ambition so why do we get knocked so badly. Yes the board may well be inept and inexperienced and have made mistakes but they are not the essence of this football club, we the fans are and those who have remained loyal and want to give their all. I am fed up of reading negative press all the time. I really hope we have a good season and that Big Ron continues to act with dignity and that some our performances make those that write this carp and those players who forced through moves away eat humble pie! bathsaints
  • Score: 10

10:00am Tue 19 Aug 14

Redslo says...

fascia123 wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
Lambert did us proud and will remain a legend. But he's yesterdays news now and his last comment was unnecessary.

Think about it, if the owners had a different ambition for the club to Cortese then that meant they were unhappy with simply being a source of funding. Owners need a measure of control, and Cortese didnt like that.

It seems they are happy to invest in the club subject to introducing standard business management practices and controls. Cortese, who had a lot going for him in terms of ambition, wanted to be autonomous. At some point - and that point was clearly reached, he was going to want a shedload more money to expand the club and buy more players. For the owners all that looked like was a massive risk.

That level of funding requires a mentality of football obsession and scant regard for potential loss. I don't think Katarina has that, although I think she genuinely likes the club and the football matches she sees. Its clearly growing on her. But she must have looked at the club and wondered what she would get back financially.

Again - thinking about it - the stupid money offerd for the famous five was simply unbelieveable. 27 million for Shaw ... ?? 25 million for Lallana.. REALLY !! Even 20 million for Lovren was a lot although mpore realistic as he is a major stopper. These are sums for established ointernational stars .. those boys were first class... but they were not yet that good for that kind of price... so the Board must have thought it was Christmas. I think time will prove they did the right thing.

The good side of this is that the money is being reinvested - a clear sign that its NOT an asset strip. So wake up.

Lambert's comment was a needless dig. But there you go, it happens.

Koeman is now the main man - his team looks good on first showings.. we have new players to cheer and applaud, so lets get on with it.
The sooner we get past this transition the better, we are still a top premiership outfit, we may even do better than last season.
Agree with most of what you are saying here, good post.

Do you really think she looked at NCs vision and thought what will I get in return for my investment?

Or do you think she thought looked where the club is today with the investment of my fathers money, he would be so proud if he were still here, I know it pains me to say Cortese helped us to this position, but do you think she put her financial head on and thought all this progress and stability could be blown out of the water by one mans vision?

Let's look at the costs

You would of needed 4/5 more top players on big wages and had to pay big transfer fees for them.

This wage structure would of had to be used throughout the club certainly all the want aways would of wanted top dollar.

The manager would of wanted a better deal.

Now the only way this could of anyway near of been funded is with more bums on seats, what cost to expand the stadium to get another 10/15 thousand in, massive investment, do we have the following week in week out, how many sell outs last term in a season where we have had a good season?

What would of happened if we expanded the stadium, invested in the new payers, changed the wage structure and the results didn't come, suddenly we have a half empty stadium, what next, FINANCIAL RUIN.

Chairman and manager do a runner, players all have to be sold, back where ML came in.

I think the route that has been taken by KL shows she cares about the long term future of the club and should be applauded and full support given to the board, the new manager and the new team and should be given in large doses.

Up the saints.
I analyzed the issue of how close we were to European success on my blog today.

redsloscf.blogspot.c
o.uk
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Lambert did us proud and will remain a legend. But he's yesterdays news now and his last comment was unnecessary. Think about it, if the owners had a different ambition for the club to Cortese then that meant they were unhappy with simply being a source of funding. Owners need a measure of control, and Cortese didnt like that. It seems they are happy to invest in the club subject to introducing standard business management practices and controls. Cortese, who had a lot going for him in terms of ambition, wanted to be autonomous. At some point - and that point was clearly reached, he was going to want a shedload more money to expand the club and buy more players. For the owners all that looked like was a massive risk. That level of funding requires a mentality of football obsession and scant regard for potential loss. I don't think Katarina has that, although I think she genuinely likes the club and the football matches she sees. Its clearly growing on her. But she must have looked at the club and wondered what she would get back financially. Again - thinking about it - the stupid money offerd for the famous five was simply unbelieveable. 27 million for Shaw ... ?? 25 million for Lallana.. REALLY !! Even 20 million for Lovren was a lot although mpore realistic as he is a major stopper. These are sums for established ointernational stars .. those boys were first class... but they were not yet that good for that kind of price... so the Board must have thought it was Christmas. I think time will prove they did the right thing. The good side of this is that the money is being reinvested - a clear sign that its NOT an asset strip. So wake up. Lambert's comment was a needless dig. But there you go, it happens. Koeman is now the main man - his team looks good on first showings.. we have new players to cheer and applaud, so lets get on with it. The sooner we get past this transition the better, we are still a top premiership outfit, we may even do better than last season.[/p][/quote]Agree with most of what you are saying here, good post. Do you really think she looked at NCs vision and thought what will I get in return for my investment? Or do you think she thought looked where the club is today with the investment of my fathers money, he would be so proud if he were still here, I know it pains me to say Cortese helped us to this position, but do you think she put her financial head on and thought all this progress and stability could be blown out of the water by one mans vision? Let's look at the costs You would of needed 4/5 more top players on big wages and had to pay big transfer fees for them. This wage structure would of had to be used throughout the club certainly all the want aways would of wanted top dollar. The manager would of wanted a better deal. Now the only way this could of anyway near of been funded is with more bums on seats, what cost to expand the stadium to get another 10/15 thousand in, massive investment, do we have the following week in week out, how many sell outs last term in a season where we have had a good season? What would of happened if we expanded the stadium, invested in the new payers, changed the wage structure and the results didn't come, suddenly we have a half empty stadium, what next, FINANCIAL RUIN. Chairman and manager do a runner, players all have to be sold, back where ML came in. I think the route that has been taken by KL shows she cares about the long term future of the club and should be applauded and full support given to the board, the new manager and the new team and should be given in large doses. Up the saints.[/p][/quote]I analyzed the issue of how close we were to European success on my blog today. redsloscf.blogspot.c o.uk Redslo
  • Score: 0

10:01am Tue 19 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

saintbobby wrote:
Bernadette M. Nicholas wrote:
my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out
http://x.co/5Hkqe
How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else!

Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.
It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bernadette M. Nicholas[/bold] wrote: my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out http://x.co/5Hkqe[/p][/quote]How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else! Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.[/p][/quote]It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 3

10:04am Tue 19 Aug 14

jls217 says...

lastminmoran wrote:
RICKIE-a good old-fashioned saints hero,up with all the legends in my book.! when he scored against scotland,.....well i havn't felt like that since i was a kid!!the fact that passed the age of 30 he's gone up to live his dream puts him up with Big Ron for me, AND FOR THE ENGLAND MANAGER TO FORGET HIM IN BRAZIL WAS HIS BIGGEST MISTAKE! RICKIE LAMBERT IS A WINNER! AND A SUPERB ROLE MODEL.
And where was he when we needed him most? Sat in an exotic location, looking to is bright future counting his money - What were you, me and the thousands like us doing at that time. Shell shocked waiting for our manager (no point as it turned out) our club captain (no point as he started scheming months beforehand) to step in, do their duty and do what was best for the club. One twisted half truth after the other put about and the buzzards circling and us doing nothing but ranting and getting indignant about KL, Reed etc without knowing what the hell was happening as the club just seemed to devour itself. And there was our talisman and elder statesman - who I admired as much as anyone did enjoying the spoils of his own little battle won - Fast slipping into my category of false hero the more I think about it all.
[quote][p][bold]lastminmoran[/bold] wrote: RICKIE-a good old-fashioned saints hero,up with all the legends in my book.! when he scored against scotland,.....well i havn't felt like that since i was a kid!!the fact that passed the age of 30 he's gone up to live his dream puts him up with Big Ron for me, AND FOR THE ENGLAND MANAGER TO FORGET HIM IN BRAZIL WAS HIS BIGGEST MISTAKE! RICKIE LAMBERT IS A WINNER! AND A SUPERB ROLE MODEL.[/p][/quote]And where was he when we needed him most? Sat in an exotic location, looking to is bright future counting his money - What were you, me and the thousands like us doing at that time. Shell shocked waiting for our manager (no point as it turned out) our club captain (no point as he started scheming months beforehand) to step in, do their duty and do what was best for the club. One twisted half truth after the other put about and the buzzards circling and us doing nothing but ranting and getting indignant about KL, Reed etc without knowing what the hell was happening as the club just seemed to devour itself. And there was our talisman and elder statesman - who I admired as much as anyone did enjoying the spoils of his own little battle won - Fast slipping into my category of false hero the more I think about it all. jls217
  • Score: 5

10:07am Tue 19 Aug 14

TGodSFC says...

jls217 wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
St Mark wrote:
milton road wrote:
If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but
Thank you
I don't see it - would like to complain if I could.
utter disgrace!!!
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No it's not a disgrace. You can make the choice to be indignantly offended ( I **** hate that word it's........... well, offensive) if you wish - your choice to make what ever you want seem offensive.

I do not - I've just looked through this and the other galleries and it's rather , pithy, sarcastic, observant and funny.

Saints played a blinder of a game under circumstances which lead many to think we might have been slaughtered, we dominated whole swathes of that game and looked the most likely to win it. However, on reading 3 major Monday news rags I find all the column inches and photos to be all about Skiverpool's rebuilding and money spent and how Sturridge stole the show and Rogered Brenda's style etc etc bloody etc. In the middle of the Liverhampton adulation pages there was a rather begrudged. "Well the visiting team did okay to weather the storm" WTF! We shoved it right up them! The point I'm making is that if it's a cartoon mickey taking session that is going to get us mentioned in the press then let's have some more of it because our football prowess as admirable as it was barely got a bloody mention. Noticed the same for the Manky Schitty and Manure games too - the opposition were hardly mentioned.
I despair but at least when I saw the lampooning I was chuckling and despairing at the same time. Lighten up mate it was funny and if we can't laugh at ourselves we may as well just lay in bed all day with the duvet over our heads wishing the nasty world to go away. Can I have a Lallana to go with the Lambert - hurtful comic genius.
I know what you’re trying to say and I've not been of a mind-set that, this is a disaster summer, we’re going to get relegated, and Kat is selling and asset stripping. But the media have! The media had nothing to print until the WC started and personally feel a full scale attack was set upon SFC. I do think they were funny but I will defend the club and Ronald till the end and I think it was too obvious and in poor taste and it’s just attack after attack on SFC by the media again. Anyone can stand behind the crowd and point and laugh but to stand up and be original that rare.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Mark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but Thank you[/p][/quote]I don't see it - would like to complain if I could.[/p][/quote]utter disgrace!!! http://www.theguardi an.com/football/gall ery/2014/aug/19/rona ld-koeman-the-galler y-southampton#/?pict ure=444738263&in dex= 6[/p][/quote]No it's not a disgrace. You can make the choice to be indignantly offended ( I **** hate that word it's........... well, offensive) if you wish - your choice to make what ever you want seem offensive. I do not - I've just looked through this and the other galleries and it's rather , pithy, sarcastic, observant and funny. Saints played a blinder of a game under circumstances which lead many to think we might have been slaughtered, we dominated whole swathes of that game and looked the most likely to win it. However, on reading 3 major Monday news rags I find all the column inches and photos to be all about Skiverpool's rebuilding and money spent and how Sturridge stole the show and Rogered Brenda's style etc etc bloody etc. In the middle of the Liverhampton adulation pages there was a rather begrudged. "Well the visiting team did okay to weather the storm" WTF! We shoved it right up them! The point I'm making is that if it's a cartoon mickey taking session that is going to get us mentioned in the press then let's have some more of it because our football prowess as admirable as it was barely got a bloody mention. Noticed the same for the Manky Schitty and Manure games too - the opposition were hardly mentioned. I despair but at least when I saw the lampooning I was chuckling and despairing at the same time. Lighten up mate it was funny and if we can't laugh at ourselves we may as well just lay in bed all day with the duvet over our heads wishing the nasty world to go away. Can I have a Lallana to go with the Lambert - hurtful comic genius.[/p][/quote]I know what you’re trying to say and I've not been of a mind-set that, this is a disaster summer, we’re going to get relegated, and Kat is selling and asset stripping. But the media have! The media had nothing to print until the WC started and personally feel a full scale attack was set upon SFC. I do think they were funny but I will defend the club and Ronald till the end and I think it was too obvious and in poor taste and it’s just attack after attack on SFC by the media again. Anyone can stand behind the crowd and point and laugh but to stand up and be original that rare. TGodSFC
  • Score: 4

10:09am Tue 19 Aug 14

TGodSFC says...

bathsaints wrote:
I don't understand what the media's problem is. We are a smallish club who has risen through the leagues playing good football developing good english players trying to run in a financially solvent way who for whatever reason have been hung out to dry by some mercenary players who seem to think money = success. We have bought in a great manager who wanted to improve his english before starting, who speaks with common sense and who has ambition so why do we get knocked so badly. Yes the board may well be inept and inexperienced and have made mistakes but they are not the essence of this football club, we the fans are and those who have remained loyal and want to give their all. I am fed up of reading negative press all the time. I really hope we have a good season and that Big Ron continues to act with dignity and that some our performances make those that write this carp and those players who forced through moves away eat humble pie!
couldn't agree more.
[quote][p][bold]bathsaints[/bold] wrote: I don't understand what the media's problem is. We are a smallish club who has risen through the leagues playing good football developing good english players trying to run in a financially solvent way who for whatever reason have been hung out to dry by some mercenary players who seem to think money = success. We have bought in a great manager who wanted to improve his english before starting, who speaks with common sense and who has ambition so why do we get knocked so badly. Yes the board may well be inept and inexperienced and have made mistakes but they are not the essence of this football club, we the fans are and those who have remained loyal and want to give their all. I am fed up of reading negative press all the time. I really hope we have a good season and that Big Ron continues to act with dignity and that some our performances make those that write this carp and those players who forced through moves away eat humble pie![/p][/quote]couldn't agree more. TGodSFC
  • Score: 5

10:12am Tue 19 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
Bernadette M. Nicholas wrote:
my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out
http://x.co/5Hkqe
How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else!

Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.
It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.
I did and they didn't.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bernadette M. Nicholas[/bold] wrote: my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out http://x.co/5Hkqe[/p][/quote]How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else! Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.[/p][/quote]It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.[/p][/quote]I did and they didn't. Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

10:18am Tue 19 Aug 14

Saint Dennis says...

jls217 wrote:
Chipmonk1 wrote:
jls217 wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
I think Rickie is sincere and really does have much respect for us. Perhaps he got In a bit of a tangle in the interview about the summer at St. Mary's but though he no longer plays for us, his contribution will never be forgotten.

Many clubs have a goalkeeping coach and it occurs to me that one day Rickie could be a useful Striker coach - at St. Mary's?
Oh, dear! 3 thumbs down in 30 minutes. Why is this seen as a bad idea?
Because we already have the finest goal scoring machine this club has ever had a phone call away. This machine was also the finest dribbler, reader of the game, free kick specialist and penalty taker (and finest pie eater too) all rolled into one. Lambert pales by comparison.
It will never happen though because the pie eater will never conform to FA, EUFA or FIFA robotic coaching courses or techniques when he knows what made him the most compelling footballer of his generation, the most entertaining and the most efficient at his job was pure uncoachable, unspoilt, undiluted joy of the game and the desire and abilities to try and succeed at the unconventional and improbable and which got him on goal of the month and won him man of the match and had Messi admitting it was him who he (Messi) had emulated when it came to goal scoring. Yet no club will take the risk of hiring him as such because he never ran himself into the ground, tracking back, and all the other football cliches used for players who fit the mould required. He just allowed his own mould to form and worked hard to perfect his own mould. Those posting here too young to have been thrilled by the sight of him leaving three or four defenders (all FA approved coached) wondering where the hell he'd gone or what had just happened to them as they had just been given a lesson in football genius. Or a keeper who had just been deceived by a ball which had just bent from an impossible angle and whacked into the back of the net (still rising) from 30 yards out.
There are those of us on here who will go to our deathbeds running those through our minds and wondering if we will ever see that sort of genius again. Alas - we probably will not and neither will you because it is coached out of them as opposed to allowing the youngster free will to develop what the pie eater might be able to encourage them to learn for themselves through hours of trial and error.
That is why we don't want the likes of Lambert and the fact that he left us when we needed him most might have a little something to do with it too. Also the way he is still espousing the dirt on the club in public too.
No he doesn't need to get on the National Express south - We've got a genius, who will be ignored, already in our midst. Just a phone call away.
Thanks for that post jls. Almost brings a tear to the eye. Sadly I think you are right and we will never see the likes of MLT again. On the plus side I am old enough to remember his efforts and he is the reason I became a Saints fan.
Love it. Ron Davies was the one who really hooked me. Been watching them from the late 50's with mild interest but when I watched Ron battering CB's and keepers out of his way I had become a real convert. Then started taking note of Paine and Channon and realized I had just caught a disease for which there is no cure. Here I am still suffering from it and for it.
Ron Davies battering CBs? I think you are confusing him with George Kirby.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: I think Rickie is sincere and really does have much respect for us. Perhaps he got In a bit of a tangle in the interview about the summer at St. Mary's but though he no longer plays for us, his contribution will never be forgotten. Many clubs have a goalkeeping coach and it occurs to me that one day Rickie could be a useful Striker coach - at St. Mary's?[/p][/quote]Oh, dear! 3 thumbs down in 30 minutes. Why is this seen as a bad idea?[/p][/quote]Because we already have the finest goal scoring machine this club has ever had a phone call away. This machine was also the finest dribbler, reader of the game, free kick specialist and penalty taker (and finest pie eater too) all rolled into one. Lambert pales by comparison. It will never happen though because the pie eater will never conform to FA, EUFA or FIFA robotic coaching courses or techniques when he knows what made him the most compelling footballer of his generation, the most entertaining and the most efficient at his job was pure uncoachable, unspoilt, undiluted joy of the game and the desire and abilities to try and succeed at the unconventional and improbable and which got him on goal of the month and won him man of the match and had Messi admitting it was him who he (Messi) had emulated when it came to goal scoring. Yet no club will take the risk of hiring him as such because he never ran himself into the ground, tracking back, and all the other football cliches used for players who fit the mould required. He just allowed his own mould to form and worked hard to perfect his own mould. Those posting here too young to have been thrilled by the sight of him leaving three or four defenders (all FA approved coached) wondering where the hell he'd gone or what had just happened to them as they had just been given a lesson in football genius. Or a keeper who had just been deceived by a ball which had just bent from an impossible angle and whacked into the back of the net (still rising) from 30 yards out. There are those of us on here who will go to our deathbeds running those through our minds and wondering if we will ever see that sort of genius again. Alas - we probably will not and neither will you because it is coached out of them as opposed to allowing the youngster free will to develop what the pie eater might be able to encourage them to learn for themselves through hours of trial and error. That is why we don't want the likes of Lambert and the fact that he left us when we needed him most might have a little something to do with it too. Also the way he is still espousing the dirt on the club in public too. No he doesn't need to get on the National Express south - We've got a genius, who will be ignored, already in our midst. Just a phone call away.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that post jls. Almost brings a tear to the eye. Sadly I think you are right and we will never see the likes of MLT again. On the plus side I am old enough to remember his efforts and he is the reason I became a Saints fan.[/p][/quote]Love it. Ron Davies was the one who really hooked me. Been watching them from the late 50's with mild interest but when I watched Ron battering CB's and keepers out of his way I had become a real convert. Then started taking note of Paine and Channon and realized I had just caught a disease for which there is no cure. Here I am still suffering from it and for it.[/p][/quote]Ron Davies battering CBs? I think you are confusing him with George Kirby. Saint Dennis
  • Score: 3

10:24am Tue 19 Aug 14

neverhasbeen says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
At his age Ricky won't have any regrets leaving even if Saints end up above Liverpool, because he is finishing his last two seasons of his career at his hometown club, something he only dreamed about before. I think his regard for Saints is genuine and will always be welcome back here.

I thought Saints performance was encouraging but we are still short of a few top quality players especially a BETTER CB to stop giving away soft goals, and a proven Goalscorer to score instead of missing chances.

We have still got two weeks left to get them, buy the CB urgently &/or get the fast Striker on loan if can't buy one or two by deadline day.

COYR&WS
Koeman has stated categorically that he does not want another CB.
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: At his age Ricky won't have any regrets leaving even if Saints end up above Liverpool, because he is finishing his last two seasons of his career at his hometown club, something he only dreamed about before. I think his regard for Saints is genuine and will always be welcome back here. I thought Saints performance was encouraging but we are still short of a few top quality players especially a BETTER CB to stop giving away soft goals, and a proven Goalscorer to score instead of missing chances. We have still got two weeks left to get them, buy the CB urgently &/or get the fast Striker on loan if can't buy one or two by deadline day. COYR&WS[/p][/quote]Koeman has stated categorically that he does not want another CB. neverhasbeen
  • Score: 0

10:28am Tue 19 Aug 14

ItchenBridger says...

saintbobby wrote:
Bernadette M. Nicholas wrote:
my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out
http://x.co/5Hkqe
How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else!

Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.
I think there may be a hidden message here regarding a new player.
If you rearrange some of the letters it looks like we're in for
Weava Edunta from Anderlecht, but then again....
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bernadette M. Nicholas[/bold] wrote: my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out http://x.co/5Hkqe[/p][/quote]How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else! Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.[/p][/quote]I think there may be a hidden message here regarding a new player. If you rearrange some of the letters it looks like we're in for Weava Edunta from Anderlecht, but then again.... ItchenBridger
  • Score: 2

10:30am Tue 19 Aug 14

warrens 76 says...

Whether we could have gone higher and kept some of the players is now a mute pint.

Personally I think we could have reachedthe promised land and put ourselves on the global map, certainly considering how far we as a club had come and how many times over Marcus's investment had been increased it was worth the punt.

The quation facing the board now is were do they want to be in 5-10 years time, we cannot constantly be raped everytime we progress because the fan base cannot grow if there is not a degree of success involved…

For me there are I think are at least 14 bigger stadiums in the country and we need to increase ours…

This would be an investment outside of FFP and leave a meaningful legacy as players themselves come and go…

The ambition has to be an average plus 42k crowd…those 12.000 extra seats would produce the revenues necessary to pay the wages of 2 more absolute class players …that is the difference of 3 league places on last year..

Whether the board are steadying the ship or were guilty of a lack of ambition is now irrelevant, the future to prevent a repeat is highly relevant..we need the increased stadium to partially fulfill our potential..
Whether we could have gone higher and kept some of the players is now a mute pint. Personally I think we could have reachedthe promised land and put ourselves on the global map, certainly considering how far we as a club had come and how many times over Marcus's investment had been increased it was worth the punt. The quation facing the board now is were do they want to be in 5-10 years time, we cannot constantly be raped everytime we progress because the fan base cannot grow if there is not a degree of success involved… For me there are I think are at least 14 bigger stadiums in the country and we need to increase ours… This would be an investment outside of FFP and leave a meaningful legacy as players themselves come and go… The ambition has to be an average plus 42k crowd…those 12.000 extra seats would produce the revenues necessary to pay the wages of 2 more absolute class players …that is the difference of 3 league places on last year.. Whether the board are steadying the ship or were guilty of a lack of ambition is now irrelevant, the future to prevent a repeat is highly relevant..we need the increased stadium to partially fulfill our potential.. warrens 76
  • Score: 2

10:35am Tue 19 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

Bl00dy media, Bl00dy Guardian it was all their fault that we had the summer exodus and even now they can't shtop taking the pish.
You lot crack me up.
Bl00dy media, Bl00dy Guardian it was all their fault that we had the summer exodus and even now they can't shtop taking the pish. You lot crack me up. costa gaz
  • Score: -13

10:37am Tue 19 Aug 14

Confucious says...

Rickie is spot on as usual. I remember when I was in my twenties the firm I worked for was doing rather well and I requested an increase in salary from £32 a week to £45,000 a week. I thought this would signal the firm's ambition to push ahead and my primary interest in this was a passion for the firm's customers and for my colleagues.

The board not only turned me down but transferred me to the Timbuktu branch. Unbelievably most of my colleagues - the very people I was trying to help - criticised me rather than the board. The cowering fools simply couldn't see that having a £45,000 a week employee was essential to displaying real corporate vision.

The whole thing was rather puzzling and sad, but I suppose that's business for you. These blinkered company directors are just obsessed with money and allow their misplaced focus on it to destroy any bigger dreams for the company.
Rickie is spot on as usual. I remember when I was in my twenties the firm I worked for was doing rather well and I requested an increase in salary from £32 a week to £45,000 a week. I thought this would signal the firm's ambition to push ahead and my primary interest in this was a passion for the firm's customers and for my colleagues. The board not only turned me down but transferred me to the Timbuktu branch. Unbelievably most of my colleagues - the very people I was trying to help - criticised me rather than the board. The cowering fools simply couldn't see that having a £45,000 a week employee was essential to displaying real corporate vision. The whole thing was rather puzzling and sad, but I suppose that's business for you. These blinkered company directors are just obsessed with money and allow their misplaced focus on it to destroy any bigger dreams for the company. Confucious
  • Score: 18

10:43am Tue 19 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
Bernadette M. Nicholas wrote:
my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out
http://x.co/5Hkqe
How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else!

Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.
It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.
I did and they didn't.
Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't.
This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman...
Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us.
If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bernadette M. Nicholas[/bold] wrote: my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out http://x.co/5Hkqe[/p][/quote]How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else! Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.[/p][/quote]It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.[/p][/quote]I did and they didn't.[/p][/quote]Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't. This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman... Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us. If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology. costa gaz
  • Score: -4

10:45am Tue 19 Aug 14

TGodSFC says...

costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
Bernadette M. Nicholas wrote:
my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out
http://x.co/5Hkqe
How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else!

Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.
It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.
I did and they didn't.
Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't.
This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman...
Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us.
If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.
whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bernadette M. Nicholas[/bold] wrote: my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out http://x.co/5Hkqe[/p][/quote]How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else! Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.[/p][/quote]It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.[/p][/quote]I did and they didn't.[/p][/quote]Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't. This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman... Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us. If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.[/p][/quote]whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page?? TGodSFC
  • Score: 4

10:56am Tue 19 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

SouthamptonLegend wrote:
Paul Lambert having a dig at Big Ron

http://www1.skysport

s.com/transfer/news/

12691/9429276/transf

er-news-paul-lambert

-blasts-ronald-koema

n-over-southamptons-

pursuit-of-aston-vil

las-ron-vlaar
Bit rich after how this club has been assaulted from all quarters, media, ex manager, possibly ex chairman, ex players, opposing managers, some fans, have I missed any?
[quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote: Paul Lambert having a dig at Big Ron http://www1.skysport s.com/transfer/news/ 12691/9429276/transf er-news-paul-lambert -blasts-ronald-koema n-over-southamptons- pursuit-of-aston-vil las-ron-vlaar[/p][/quote]Bit rich after how this club has been assaulted from all quarters, media, ex manager, possibly ex chairman, ex players, opposing managers, some fans, have I missed any? fascia123
  • Score: 8

10:57am Tue 19 Aug 14

dockboy says...

Ricky Lambert is fast becoming extremely patronising.
Ricky Lambert is fast becoming extremely patronising. dockboy
  • Score: 13

10:57am Tue 19 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Redslo wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
Lambert did us proud and will remain a legend. But he's yesterdays news now and his last comment was unnecessary.

Think about it, if the owners had a different ambition for the club to Cortese then that meant they were unhappy with simply being a source of funding. Owners need a measure of control, and Cortese didnt like that.

It seems they are happy to invest in the club subject to introducing standard business management practices and controls. Cortese, who had a lot going for him in terms of ambition, wanted to be autonomous. At some point - and that point was clearly reached, he was going to want a shedload more money to expand the club and buy more players. For the owners all that looked like was a massive risk.

That level of funding requires a mentality of football obsession and scant regard for potential loss. I don't think Katarina has that, although I think she genuinely likes the club and the football matches she sees. Its clearly growing on her. But she must have looked at the club and wondered what she would get back financially.

Again - thinking about it - the stupid money offerd for the famous five was simply unbelieveable. 27 million for Shaw ... ?? 25 million for Lallana.. REALLY !! Even 20 million for Lovren was a lot although mpore realistic as he is a major stopper. These are sums for established ointernational stars .. those boys were first class... but they were not yet that good for that kind of price... so the Board must have thought it was Christmas. I think time will prove they did the right thing.

The good side of this is that the money is being reinvested - a clear sign that its NOT an asset strip. So wake up.

Lambert's comment was a needless dig. But there you go, it happens.

Koeman is now the main man - his team looks good on first showings.. we have new players to cheer and applaud, so lets get on with it.
The sooner we get past this transition the better, we are still a top premiership outfit, we may even do better than last season.
Agree with most of what you are saying here, good post.

Do you really think she looked at NCs vision and thought what will I get in return for my investment?

Or do you think she thought looked where the club is today with the investment of my fathers money, he would be so proud if he were still here, I know it pains me to say Cortese helped us to this position, but do you think she put her financial head on and thought all this progress and stability could be blown out of the water by one mans vision?

Let's look at the costs

You would of needed 4/5 more top players on big wages and had to pay big transfer fees for them.

This wage structure would of had to be used throughout the club certainly all the want aways would of wanted top dollar.

The manager would of wanted a better deal.

Now the only way this could of anyway near of been funded is with more bums on seats, what cost to expand the stadium to get another 10/15 thousand in, massive investment, do we have the following week in week out, how many sell outs last term in a season where we have had a good season?

What would of happened if we expanded the stadium, invested in the new payers, changed the wage structure and the results didn't come, suddenly we have a half empty stadium, what next, FINANCIAL RUIN.

Chairman and manager do a runner, players all have to be sold, back where ML came in.

I think the route that has been taken by KL shows she cares about the long term future of the club and should be applauded and full support given to the board, the new manager and the new team and should be given in large doses.

Up the saints.
I analyzed the issue of how close we were to European success on my blog today.

redsloscf.blogspot.c

o.uk
I've enjoyed reading this blog - wish I had the time necessary to put in that amount of research.
I may not always agree with what you're saying but I will ponder on it and adjust my knowledge store as a result of it. Thanks for making the effort and putting the proceedings into a semblance of order and logical progression. There is a, never to be repeated, progression of the pins falling and it is all but inconceivable this sequence of events/circumstances can or will be present again. For a while in the summer I was reeling from the info and misinfo being spread by the various interests/camps within the club, within the fan forums and within the press, - some clearly feeding into the others.
What has emerged is my club (KL's business venture) as middle of the PL table club again which will from time to time tweak the tails of the big boys and looks to have set out its stall to entertain regardless.
For a short while we really frightened the status quo interested clubs and it could happen again once we have established this season is about gaining composure, steadying the ship, damage limitation and foundation building. Rambo's team are just the people required for the job.
It is clear to me our long term future is more than winning and entertaining once or twice a week in a stadium in Hampshire.
The bean counters, marketing, legal beagles and PR people need to be acting as a team behind the first XI in generating interest and revenue worldwide in an ever wider circle of not just football but sports and leisure (and non sports and leisure) activities which may seem illogical and alien to us simpler folk but go in as well fitting pieces of the jigsaw to provide us with a recognizable worldwide brand. Unlike some teams whose brand will never exceed the concept of putting out a world XI on a freezing Saturday in winter, Saints, in our current form, may well end up being overtaken by the brand itself - and this Saints just becomes an arm of marketing that brand rather than the brand financing the football activities of a world giant. It will be interesting to see this unfold as I'm convinced Kruger was brought in more for his non football skills and the football knowledge he can pick up. Will Saints have a North American ice hockey team allied to the brand promotion? - Makes sense to me. Will it stop with just that - what about our own Soccer team franchise (Is there a city in the USA with a large enough population/catchment area (hopefully called Southampton) to warrant the efforts of a marketing team. What is in the mind of RK - and I reckon he will be the driving force behind it, concerning the academy franchising idea. Herr Liebherr had a hotel chain in his own portfolio of company interests I believe (might be wrong on that one) Is it too ridiculous to think the Saints brand could be included to promote or even own an ever growing hotel/motel chain. The opportunities are endless and will have to be carefully researched and implemented but my feeling is we are in the gestation stage of a potentially hugely rewarding but not without risks, brand alignment/ birth. I just hope we don't lose sight of what brought us all to St. Mary's in the first place and no it's is not the quality of the pies. Interesting times gents and what would I give to be the fly on the board room wall.
Great blog - please don't get disillusioned at the flak you will inevitably attract from time to time - persevere and cause us to think please.
[quote][p][bold]Redslo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Lambert did us proud and will remain a legend. But he's yesterdays news now and his last comment was unnecessary. Think about it, if the owners had a different ambition for the club to Cortese then that meant they were unhappy with simply being a source of funding. Owners need a measure of control, and Cortese didnt like that. It seems they are happy to invest in the club subject to introducing standard business management practices and controls. Cortese, who had a lot going for him in terms of ambition, wanted to be autonomous. At some point - and that point was clearly reached, he was going to want a shedload more money to expand the club and buy more players. For the owners all that looked like was a massive risk. That level of funding requires a mentality of football obsession and scant regard for potential loss. I don't think Katarina has that, although I think she genuinely likes the club and the football matches she sees. Its clearly growing on her. But she must have looked at the club and wondered what she would get back financially. Again - thinking about it - the stupid money offerd for the famous five was simply unbelieveable. 27 million for Shaw ... ?? 25 million for Lallana.. REALLY !! Even 20 million for Lovren was a lot although mpore realistic as he is a major stopper. These are sums for established ointernational stars .. those boys were first class... but they were not yet that good for that kind of price... so the Board must have thought it was Christmas. I think time will prove they did the right thing. The good side of this is that the money is being reinvested - a clear sign that its NOT an asset strip. So wake up. Lambert's comment was a needless dig. But there you go, it happens. Koeman is now the main man - his team looks good on first showings.. we have new players to cheer and applaud, so lets get on with it. The sooner we get past this transition the better, we are still a top premiership outfit, we may even do better than last season.[/p][/quote]Agree with most of what you are saying here, good post. Do you really think she looked at NCs vision and thought what will I get in return for my investment? Or do you think she thought looked where the club is today with the investment of my fathers money, he would be so proud if he were still here, I know it pains me to say Cortese helped us to this position, but do you think she put her financial head on and thought all this progress and stability could be blown out of the water by one mans vision? Let's look at the costs You would of needed 4/5 more top players on big wages and had to pay big transfer fees for them. This wage structure would of had to be used throughout the club certainly all the want aways would of wanted top dollar. The manager would of wanted a better deal. Now the only way this could of anyway near of been funded is with more bums on seats, what cost to expand the stadium to get another 10/15 thousand in, massive investment, do we have the following week in week out, how many sell outs last term in a season where we have had a good season? What would of happened if we expanded the stadium, invested in the new payers, changed the wage structure and the results didn't come, suddenly we have a half empty stadium, what next, FINANCIAL RUIN. Chairman and manager do a runner, players all have to be sold, back where ML came in. I think the route that has been taken by KL shows she cares about the long term future of the club and should be applauded and full support given to the board, the new manager and the new team and should be given in large doses. Up the saints.[/p][/quote]I analyzed the issue of how close we were to European success on my blog today. redsloscf.blogspot.c o.uk[/p][/quote]I've enjoyed reading this blog - wish I had the time necessary to put in that amount of research. I may not always agree with what you're saying but I will ponder on it and adjust my knowledge store as a result of it. Thanks for making the effort and putting the proceedings into a semblance of order and logical progression. There is a, never to be repeated, progression of the pins falling and it is all but inconceivable this sequence of events/circumstances can or will be present again. For a while in the summer I was reeling from the info and misinfo being spread by the various interests/camps within the club, within the fan forums and within the press, - some clearly feeding into the others. What has emerged is my club (KL's business venture) as middle of the PL table club again which will from time to time tweak the tails of the big boys and looks to have set out its stall to entertain regardless. For a short while we really frightened the status quo interested clubs and it could happen again once we have established this season is about gaining composure, steadying the ship, damage limitation and foundation building. Rambo's team are just the people required for the job. It is clear to me our long term future is more than winning and entertaining once or twice a week in a stadium in Hampshire. The bean counters, marketing, legal beagles and PR people need to be acting as a team behind the first XI in generating interest and revenue worldwide in an ever wider circle of not just football but sports and leisure (and non sports and leisure) activities which may seem illogical and alien to us simpler folk but go in as well fitting pieces of the jigsaw to provide us with a recognizable worldwide brand. Unlike some teams whose brand will never exceed the concept of putting out a world XI on a freezing Saturday in winter, Saints, in our current form, may well end up being overtaken by the brand itself - and this Saints just becomes an arm of marketing that brand rather than the brand financing the football activities of a world giant. It will be interesting to see this unfold as I'm convinced Kruger was brought in more for his non football skills and the football knowledge he can pick up. Will Saints have a North American ice hockey team allied to the brand promotion? - Makes sense to me. Will it stop with just that - what about our own Soccer team franchise (Is there a city in the USA with a large enough population/catchment area (hopefully called Southampton) to warrant the efforts of a marketing team. What is in the mind of RK - and I reckon he will be the driving force behind it, concerning the academy franchising idea. Herr Liebherr had a hotel chain in his own portfolio of company interests I believe (might be wrong on that one) Is it too ridiculous to think the Saints brand could be included to promote or even own an ever growing hotel/motel chain. The opportunities are endless and will have to be carefully researched and implemented but my feeling is we are in the gestation stage of a potentially hugely rewarding but not without risks, brand alignment/ birth. I just hope we don't lose sight of what brought us all to St. Mary's in the first place and no it's is not the quality of the pies. Interesting times gents and what would I give to be the fly on the board room wall. Great blog - please don't get disillusioned at the flak you will inevitably attract from time to time - persevere and cause us to think please. jls217
  • Score: 3

10:59am Tue 19 Aug 14

KSO16R says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Whether we could have gone higher and kept some of the players is now a mute pint.

Personally I think we could have reachedthe promised land and put ourselves on the global map, certainly considering how far we as a club had come and how many times over Marcus's investment had been increased it was worth the punt.

The quation facing the board now is were do they want to be in 5-10 years time, we cannot constantly be raped everytime we progress because the fan base cannot grow if there is not a degree of success involved…

For me there are I think are at least 14 bigger stadiums in the country and we need to increase ours…

This would be an investment outside of FFP and leave a meaningful legacy as players themselves come and go…

The ambition has to be an average plus 42k crowd…those 12.000 extra seats would produce the revenues necessary to pay the wages of 2 more absolute class players …that is the difference of 3 league places on last year..

Whether the board are steadying the ship or were guilty of a lack of ambition is now irrelevant, the future to prevent a repeat is highly relevant..we need the increased stadium to partially fulfill our potential..
Let them finish the training ground first.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Whether we could have gone higher and kept some of the players is now a mute pint. Personally I think we could have reachedthe promised land and put ourselves on the global map, certainly considering how far we as a club had come and how many times over Marcus's investment had been increased it was worth the punt. The quation facing the board now is were do they want to be in 5-10 years time, we cannot constantly be raped everytime we progress because the fan base cannot grow if there is not a degree of success involved… For me there are I think are at least 14 bigger stadiums in the country and we need to increase ours… This would be an investment outside of FFP and leave a meaningful legacy as players themselves come and go… The ambition has to be an average plus 42k crowd…those 12.000 extra seats would produce the revenues necessary to pay the wages of 2 more absolute class players …that is the difference of 3 league places on last year.. Whether the board are steadying the ship or were guilty of a lack of ambition is now irrelevant, the future to prevent a repeat is highly relevant..we need the increased stadium to partially fulfill our potential..[/p][/quote]Let them finish the training ground first. KSO16R
  • Score: 1

10:59am Tue 19 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

TGodSFC wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
Bernadette M. Nicholas wrote:
my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out
http://x.co/5Hkqe
How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else!

Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.
It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.
I did and they didn't.
Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't.
This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman...
Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us.
If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.
whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??
Saints had a good weekend, and doubts about the version of this summer's events that he has chosen to promulgate are increasing, so he's probably stuck for something he can be negative about. Understandable, really.
[quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bernadette M. Nicholas[/bold] wrote: my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out http://x.co/5Hkqe[/p][/quote]How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else! Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.[/p][/quote]It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.[/p][/quote]I did and they didn't.[/p][/quote]Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't. This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman... Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us. If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.[/p][/quote]whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??[/p][/quote]Saints had a good weekend, and doubts about the version of this summer's events that he has chosen to promulgate are increasing, so he's probably stuck for something he can be negative about. Understandable, really. Rising_Son
  • Score: 3

11:00am Tue 19 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

TGodSFC wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
Bernadette M. Nicholas wrote:
my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out
http://x.co/5Hkqe
How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else!

Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.
It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.
I did and they didn't.
Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't.
This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman...
Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us.
If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.
whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??
It's a little poke at the same people who keep blaming the press for everything T.
The press get blamed, Steve Gerrard got blamed, Roy Hodgson the list is endless.
Today I read that Pochettino was tapped up by .... wait for it.... Osvaldo Ardilles.

Yet an ex-employee, who would probably know what went on, suggested where the blame lies and its viewed as blasphemy.
[quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bernadette M. Nicholas[/bold] wrote: my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out http://x.co/5Hkqe[/p][/quote]How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else! Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.[/p][/quote]It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.[/p][/quote]I did and they didn't.[/p][/quote]Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't. This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman... Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us. If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.[/p][/quote]whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??[/p][/quote]It's a little poke at the same people who keep blaming the press for everything T. The press get blamed, Steve Gerrard got blamed, Roy Hodgson the list is endless. Today I read that Pochettino was tapped up by .... wait for it.... Osvaldo Ardilles. Yet an ex-employee, who would probably know what went on, suggested where the blame lies and its viewed as blasphemy. costa gaz
  • Score: -5

11:02am Tue 19 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

fascia123 wrote:
SouthamptonLegend wrote:
Paul Lambert having a dig at Big Ron

http://www1.skysport


s.com/transfer/news/


12691/9429276/transf


er-news-paul-lambert


-blasts-ronald-koema


n-over-southamptons-


pursuit-of-aston-vil


las-ron-vlaar
Bit rich after how this club has been assaulted from all quarters, media, ex manager, possibly ex chairman, ex players, opposing managers, some fans, have I missed any?
Just the most important one, but don't let that spoil your theories.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote: Paul Lambert having a dig at Big Ron http://www1.skysport s.com/transfer/news/ 12691/9429276/transf er-news-paul-lambert -blasts-ronald-koema n-over-southamptons- pursuit-of-aston-vil las-ron-vlaar[/p][/quote]Bit rich after how this club has been assaulted from all quarters, media, ex manager, possibly ex chairman, ex players, opposing managers, some fans, have I missed any?[/p][/quote]Just the most important one, but don't let that spoil your theories. costa gaz
  • Score: -8

11:02am Tue 19 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Confucious wrote:
Rickie is spot on as usual. I remember when I was in my twenties the firm I worked for was doing rather well and I requested an increase in salary from £32 a week to £45,000 a week. I thought this would signal the firm's ambition to push ahead and my primary interest in this was a passion for the firm's customers and for my colleagues.

The board not only turned me down but transferred me to the Timbuktu branch. Unbelievably most of my colleagues - the very people I was trying to help - criticised me rather than the board. The cowering fools simply couldn't see that having a £45,000 a week employee was essential to displaying real corporate vision.

The whole thing was rather puzzling and sad, but I suppose that's business for you. These blinkered company directors are just obsessed with money and allow their misplaced focus on it to destroy any bigger dreams for the company.
PMSL
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Rickie is spot on as usual. I remember when I was in my twenties the firm I worked for was doing rather well and I requested an increase in salary from £32 a week to £45,000 a week. I thought this would signal the firm's ambition to push ahead and my primary interest in this was a passion for the firm's customers and for my colleagues. The board not only turned me down but transferred me to the Timbuktu branch. Unbelievably most of my colleagues - the very people I was trying to help - criticised me rather than the board. The cowering fools simply couldn't see that having a £45,000 a week employee was essential to displaying real corporate vision. The whole thing was rather puzzling and sad, but I suppose that's business for you. These blinkered company directors are just obsessed with money and allow their misplaced focus on it to destroy any bigger dreams for the company.[/p][/quote]PMSL jls217
  • Score: -2

11:06am Tue 19 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

verwoodsaint wrote:
whats the point of winding things up Lambert ? You got what you wanted so be happy , leave the saints to grow. SFC will always be bigger than any player…Move on...
Or should that be 'Walk On'
[quote][p][bold]verwoodsaint[/bold] wrote: whats the point of winding things up Lambert ? You got what you wanted so be happy , leave the saints to grow. SFC will always be bigger than any player…Move on...[/p][/quote]Or should that be 'Walk On' KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 0

11:09am Tue 19 Aug 14

saint christopher says...

http://www.independe
nt.co.uk/sport/footb
all/premier-league/h
ow-southamptons-summ
er-transfer-window-t
urned-into-an-unexpe
cted-revolution-9673
919.html

Don't know if this has been quoted before but a helpful article giving a more positive spin on the recent changes - shame national paper has to report this rather than DE.
http://www.independe nt.co.uk/sport/footb all/premier-league/h ow-southamptons-summ er-transfer-window-t urned-into-an-unexpe cted-revolution-9673 919.html Don't know if this has been quoted before but a helpful article giving a more positive spin on the recent changes - shame national paper has to report this rather than DE. saint christopher
  • Score: 3

11:14am Tue 19 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Saint Dennis wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Chipmonk1 wrote:
jls217 wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
I think Rickie is sincere and really does have much respect for us. Perhaps he got In a bit of a tangle in the interview about the summer at St. Mary's but though he no longer plays for us, his contribution will never be forgotten.

Many clubs have a goalkeeping coach and it occurs to me that one day Rickie could be a useful Striker coach - at St. Mary's?
Oh, dear! 3 thumbs down in 30 minutes. Why is this seen as a bad idea?
Because we already have the finest goal scoring machine this club has ever had a phone call away. This machine was also the finest dribbler, reader of the game, free kick specialist and penalty taker (and finest pie eater too) all rolled into one. Lambert pales by comparison.
It will never happen though because the pie eater will never conform to FA, EUFA or FIFA robotic coaching courses or techniques when he knows what made him the most compelling footballer of his generation, the most entertaining and the most efficient at his job was pure uncoachable, unspoilt, undiluted joy of the game and the desire and abilities to try and succeed at the unconventional and improbable and which got him on goal of the month and won him man of the match and had Messi admitting it was him who he (Messi) had emulated when it came to goal scoring. Yet no club will take the risk of hiring him as such because he never ran himself into the ground, tracking back, and all the other football cliches used for players who fit the mould required. He just allowed his own mould to form and worked hard to perfect his own mould. Those posting here too young to have been thrilled by the sight of him leaving three or four defenders (all FA approved coached) wondering where the hell he'd gone or what had just happened to them as they had just been given a lesson in football genius. Or a keeper who had just been deceived by a ball which had just bent from an impossible angle and whacked into the back of the net (still rising) from 30 yards out.
There are those of us on here who will go to our deathbeds running those through our minds and wondering if we will ever see that sort of genius again. Alas - we probably will not and neither will you because it is coached out of them as opposed to allowing the youngster free will to develop what the pie eater might be able to encourage them to learn for themselves through hours of trial and error.
That is why we don't want the likes of Lambert and the fact that he left us when we needed him most might have a little something to do with it too. Also the way he is still espousing the dirt on the club in public too.
No he doesn't need to get on the National Express south - We've got a genius, who will be ignored, already in our midst. Just a phone call away.
Thanks for that post jls. Almost brings a tear to the eye. Sadly I think you are right and we will never see the likes of MLT again. On the plus side I am old enough to remember his efforts and he is the reason I became a Saints fan.
Love it. Ron Davies was the one who really hooked me. Been watching them from the late 50's with mild interest but when I watched Ron battering CB's and keepers out of his way I had become a real convert. Then started taking note of Paine and Channon and realized I had just caught a disease for which there is no cure. Here I am still suffering from it and for it.
Ron Davies battering CBs? I think you are confusing him with George Kirby.
He didn't need to batter'em.. Just out jump'em..which he did!
[quote][p][bold]Saint Dennis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: I think Rickie is sincere and really does have much respect for us. Perhaps he got In a bit of a tangle in the interview about the summer at St. Mary's but though he no longer plays for us, his contribution will never be forgotten. Many clubs have a goalkeeping coach and it occurs to me that one day Rickie could be a useful Striker coach - at St. Mary's?[/p][/quote]Oh, dear! 3 thumbs down in 30 minutes. Why is this seen as a bad idea?[/p][/quote]Because we already have the finest goal scoring machine this club has ever had a phone call away. This machine was also the finest dribbler, reader of the game, free kick specialist and penalty taker (and finest pie eater too) all rolled into one. Lambert pales by comparison. It will never happen though because the pie eater will never conform to FA, EUFA or FIFA robotic coaching courses or techniques when he knows what made him the most compelling footballer of his generation, the most entertaining and the most efficient at his job was pure uncoachable, unspoilt, undiluted joy of the game and the desire and abilities to try and succeed at the unconventional and improbable and which got him on goal of the month and won him man of the match and had Messi admitting it was him who he (Messi) had emulated when it came to goal scoring. Yet no club will take the risk of hiring him as such because he never ran himself into the ground, tracking back, and all the other football cliches used for players who fit the mould required. He just allowed his own mould to form and worked hard to perfect his own mould. Those posting here too young to have been thrilled by the sight of him leaving three or four defenders (all FA approved coached) wondering where the hell he'd gone or what had just happened to them as they had just been given a lesson in football genius. Or a keeper who had just been deceived by a ball which had just bent from an impossible angle and whacked into the back of the net (still rising) from 30 yards out. There are those of us on here who will go to our deathbeds running those through our minds and wondering if we will ever see that sort of genius again. Alas - we probably will not and neither will you because it is coached out of them as opposed to allowing the youngster free will to develop what the pie eater might be able to encourage them to learn for themselves through hours of trial and error. That is why we don't want the likes of Lambert and the fact that he left us when we needed him most might have a little something to do with it too. Also the way he is still espousing the dirt on the club in public too. No he doesn't need to get on the National Express south - We've got a genius, who will be ignored, already in our midst. Just a phone call away.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that post jls. Almost brings a tear to the eye. Sadly I think you are right and we will never see the likes of MLT again. On the plus side I am old enough to remember his efforts and he is the reason I became a Saints fan.[/p][/quote]Love it. Ron Davies was the one who really hooked me. Been watching them from the late 50's with mild interest but when I watched Ron battering CB's and keepers out of his way I had become a real convert. Then started taking note of Paine and Channon and realized I had just caught a disease for which there is no cure. Here I am still suffering from it and for it.[/p][/quote]Ron Davies battering CBs? I think you are confusing him with George Kirby.[/p][/quote]He didn't need to batter'em.. Just out jump'em..which he did! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

11:19am Tue 19 Aug 14

TGodSFC says...

costa gaz wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
Bernadette M. Nicholas wrote:
my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out
http://x.co/5Hkqe
How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else!

Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.
It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.
I did and they didn't.
Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't.
This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman...
Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us.
If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.
whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??
It's a little poke at the same people who keep blaming the press for everything T.
The press get blamed, Steve Gerrard got blamed, Roy Hodgson the list is endless.
Today I read that Pochettino was tapped up by .... wait for it.... Osvaldo Ardilles.

Yet an ex-employee, who would probably know what went on, suggested where the blame lies and its viewed as blasphemy.
I'm not blaming the press, I think they run out of things to print at times and we've been an easy target all summer, but they haven’t helped people’s views on us that don’t know the real reason behind choices made by Kat and Les, but no ones to blame because in my view no bad choices were made (expect Chambers). Just saw the guardian article and thought enough is enough. I'm not one to complain, in fact I avoid it 9 times out of 10 but I'm very passionate about SFC and yes it was a joke and yes one of the pictures was funny, but it was just distasteful and disrespectful to TinTin. IMO the media has a lot to answer for when it comes to sport in this country, especially the National side.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bernadette M. Nicholas[/bold] wrote: my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out http://x.co/5Hkqe[/p][/quote]How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else! Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.[/p][/quote]It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.[/p][/quote]I did and they didn't.[/p][/quote]Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't. This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman... Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us. If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.[/p][/quote]whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??[/p][/quote]It's a little poke at the same people who keep blaming the press for everything T. The press get blamed, Steve Gerrard got blamed, Roy Hodgson the list is endless. Today I read that Pochettino was tapped up by .... wait for it.... Osvaldo Ardilles. Yet an ex-employee, who would probably know what went on, suggested where the blame lies and its viewed as blasphemy.[/p][/quote]I'm not blaming the press, I think they run out of things to print at times and we've been an easy target all summer, but they haven’t helped people’s views on us that don’t know the real reason behind choices made by Kat and Les, but no ones to blame because in my view no bad choices were made (expect Chambers). Just saw the guardian article and thought enough is enough. I'm not one to complain, in fact I avoid it 9 times out of 10 but I'm very passionate about SFC and yes it was a joke and yes one of the pictures was funny, but it was just distasteful and disrespectful to TinTin. IMO the media has a lot to answer for when it comes to sport in this country, especially the National side. TGodSFC
  • Score: 2

11:20am Tue 19 Aug 14

jls217 says...

costa gaz wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
Bernadette M. Nicholas wrote:
my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out
http://x.co/5Hkqe
How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else!

Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.
It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.
I did and they didn't.
Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't.
This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman...
Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us.
If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.
whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??
It's a little poke at the same people who keep blaming the press for everything T.
The press get blamed, Steve Gerrard got blamed, Roy Hodgson the list is endless.
Today I read that Pochettino was tapped up by .... wait for it.... Osvaldo Ardilles.

Yet an ex-employee, who would probably know what went on, suggested where the blame lies and its viewed as blasphemy.
Maybe because it is all so self serving Gaz.

Ultimately greed and power was to blame - Ricky and the others were just pawns to be used as cynically as always by those pulling the strings in the background. My knowledge of human nature leads me down one path of probability. Your experiences may lead you down a different route. Ricky is an innocent abroad in these Machiavellian webs but was an effective tool in the furtherance of those aims. He could just as easily have been a steadying influence but decided to go where the money is. Not slagging him for that overly but don't come back to the scene of those machinations with a series of cognitive distortions to enable himself to wash his ego of any wrongdoings (Much as the Nazis tried to do in the closing months and aftermath of the war - no difference in the thought processes required to do so just a difference in the scale of the wrongdoings that's all). We'll never know, of course, but what if he and/or Lallana had merely made it public knowledge that they were being talked to and about by vested interests inside and outside the club and were having none of it and sticking to their contracts as pros and backing the best possible outcome for the club as loyal persons of influence within the club. They chose to opt for self-interest with no consideration for anything/anybody else but what if..................
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[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bernadette M. Nicholas[/bold] wrote: my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out http://x.co/5Hkqe[/p][/quote]How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else! Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.[/p][/quote]It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.[/p][/quote]I did and they didn't.[/p][/quote]Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't. This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman... Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us. If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.[/p][/quote]whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??[/p][/quote]It's a little poke at the same people who keep blaming the press for everything T. The press get blamed, Steve Gerrard got blamed, Roy Hodgson the list is endless. Today I read that Pochettino was tapped up by .... wait for it.... Osvaldo Ardilles. Yet an ex-employee, who would probably know what went on, suggested where the blame lies and its viewed as blasphemy.[/p][/quote]Maybe because it is all so self serving Gaz. Ultimately greed and power was to blame - Ricky and the others were just pawns to be used as cynically as always by those pulling the strings in the background. My knowledge of human nature leads me down one path of probability. Your experiences may lead you down a different route. Ricky is an innocent abroad in these Machiavellian webs but was an effective tool in the furtherance of those aims. He could just as easily have been a steadying influence but decided to go where the money is. Not slagging him for that overly but don't come back to the scene of those machinations with a series of cognitive distortions to enable himself to wash his ego of any wrongdoings (Much as the Nazis tried to do in the closing months and aftermath of the war - no difference in the thought processes required to do so just a difference in the scale of the wrongdoings that's all). We'll never know, of course, but what if he and/or Lallana had merely made it public knowledge that they were being talked to and about by vested interests inside and outside the club and were having none of it and sticking to their contracts as pros and backing the best possible outcome for the club as loyal persons of influence within the club. They chose to opt for self-interest with no consideration for anything/anybody else but what if.................. ....... jls217
  • Score: 5

11:22am Tue 19 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

Confucious wrote:
Rickie is spot on as usual. I remember when I was in my twenties the firm I worked for was doing rather well and I requested an increase in salary from £32 a week to £45,000 a week. I thought this would signal the firm's ambition to push ahead and my primary interest in this was a passion for the firm's customers and for my colleagues.

The board not only turned me down but transferred me to the Timbuktu branch. Unbelievably most of my colleagues - the very people I was trying to help - criticised me rather than the board. The cowering fools simply couldn't see that having a £45,000 a week employee was essential to displaying real corporate vision.

The whole thing was rather puzzling and sad, but I suppose that's business for you. These blinkered company directors are just obsessed with money and allow their misplaced focus on it to destroy any bigger dreams for the company.
Wonderful Confucious -

Costa Gaz have a read as it lays out the Summer far better than I have been able to express !

P@ssing myself ....................
..
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Rickie is spot on as usual. I remember when I was in my twenties the firm I worked for was doing rather well and I requested an increase in salary from £32 a week to £45,000 a week. I thought this would signal the firm's ambition to push ahead and my primary interest in this was a passion for the firm's customers and for my colleagues. The board not only turned me down but transferred me to the Timbuktu branch. Unbelievably most of my colleagues - the very people I was trying to help - criticised me rather than the board. The cowering fools simply couldn't see that having a £45,000 a week employee was essential to displaying real corporate vision. The whole thing was rather puzzling and sad, but I suppose that's business for you. These blinkered company directors are just obsessed with money and allow their misplaced focus on it to destroy any bigger dreams for the company.[/p][/quote]Wonderful Confucious - Costa Gaz have a read as it lays out the Summer far better than I have been able to express ! P@ssing myself .................... .. Buddy SFC
  • Score: 3

11:23am Tue 19 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Glad you were impressed with our "new look Saints" Rickie. On the other hand we wern't impressed even slightly with Brenda's new look Skiverpool
And while I understand it is a move up in terms of the size of the club and wages, the weekend just goes to prove even more than Liverpool had their chance last year and blew it.

They even had their chance in the transfer window but blew it.

Look at Man City and Chelsea and I'm sorry but the other clubs, including the other destinations our big player seem to fancy, are fighting for third place and a mediocre Champions League run.

Liverpool, Arsenal, Man Utd and Spurs are simply too lightweight in central midfield and defence to win the title.

FFS Saints have a more comparable midfield powerhouse than those teams based on the evidence of the weekend.

If we could just get in another world-class centre back (maybe we already have) we'd be a force because our team is looking physically very strong.

Liverpool in particular have a tough start to the season and by the time Adam is fit I think any illusions of winning the championship will be long gone - City will, IMO, out muscle them and show the difference between title winners and teams that take the 'you score, we score' approach.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: Glad you were impressed with our "new look Saints" Rickie. On the other hand we wern't impressed even slightly with Brenda's new look Skiverpool[/p][/quote]And while I understand it is a move up in terms of the size of the club and wages, the weekend just goes to prove even more than Liverpool had their chance last year and blew it. They even had their chance in the transfer window but blew it. Look at Man City and Chelsea and I'm sorry but the other clubs, including the other destinations our big player seem to fancy, are fighting for third place and a mediocre Champions League run. Liverpool, Arsenal, Man Utd and Spurs are simply too lightweight in central midfield and defence to win the title. FFS Saints have a more comparable midfield powerhouse than those teams based on the evidence of the weekend. If we could just get in another world-class centre back (maybe we already have) we'd be a force because our team is looking physically very strong. Liverpool in particular have a tough start to the season and by the time Adam is fit I think any illusions of winning the championship will be long gone - City will, IMO, out muscle them and show the difference between title winners and teams that take the 'you score, we score' approach. SaintJD
  • Score: 6

11:24am Tue 19 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Saint Dennis wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Chipmonk1 wrote:
jls217 wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
I think Rickie is sincere and really does have much respect for us. Perhaps he got In a bit of a tangle in the interview about the summer at St. Mary's but though he no longer plays for us, his contribution will never be forgotten.

Many clubs have a goalkeeping coach and it occurs to me that one day Rickie could be a useful Striker coach - at St. Mary's?
Oh, dear! 3 thumbs down in 30 minutes. Why is this seen as a bad idea?
Because we already have the finest goal scoring machine this club has ever had a phone call away. This machine was also the finest dribbler, reader of the game, free kick specialist and penalty taker (and finest pie eater too) all rolled into one. Lambert pales by comparison.
It will never happen though because the pie eater will never conform to FA, EUFA or FIFA robotic coaching courses or techniques when he knows what made him the most compelling footballer of his generation, the most entertaining and the most efficient at his job was pure uncoachable, unspoilt, undiluted joy of the game and the desire and abilities to try and succeed at the unconventional and improbable and which got him on goal of the month and won him man of the match and had Messi admitting it was him who he (Messi) had emulated when it came to goal scoring. Yet no club will take the risk of hiring him as such because he never ran himself into the ground, tracking back, and all the other football cliches used for players who fit the mould required. He just allowed his own mould to form and worked hard to perfect his own mould. Those posting here too young to have been thrilled by the sight of him leaving three or four defenders (all FA approved coached) wondering where the hell he'd gone or what had just happened to them as they had just been given a lesson in football genius. Or a keeper who had just been deceived by a ball which had just bent from an impossible angle and whacked into the back of the net (still rising) from 30 yards out.
There are those of us on here who will go to our deathbeds running those through our minds and wondering if we will ever see that sort of genius again. Alas - we probably will not and neither will you because it is coached out of them as opposed to allowing the youngster free will to develop what the pie eater might be able to encourage them to learn for themselves through hours of trial and error.
That is why we don't want the likes of Lambert and the fact that he left us when we needed him most might have a little something to do with it too. Also the way he is still espousing the dirt on the club in public too.
No he doesn't need to get on the National Express south - We've got a genius, who will be ignored, already in our midst. Just a phone call away.
Thanks for that post jls. Almost brings a tear to the eye. Sadly I think you are right and we will never see the likes of MLT again. On the plus side I am old enough to remember his efforts and he is the reason I became a Saints fan.
Love it. Ron Davies was the one who really hooked me. Been watching them from the late 50's with mild interest but when I watched Ron battering CB's and keepers out of his way I had become a real convert. Then started taking note of Paine and Channon and realized I had just caught a disease for which there is no cure. Here I am still suffering from it and for it.
Ron Davies battering CBs? I think you are confusing him with George Kirby.
He didn't need to batter'em.. Just out jump'em..which he did!
Point taken by august gents who clearly have memories surpassing even my ancient and befuddled ones. He was a leapy majestic salmon wasn't he?
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Dennis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: I think Rickie is sincere and really does have much respect for us. Perhaps he got In a bit of a tangle in the interview about the summer at St. Mary's but though he no longer plays for us, his contribution will never be forgotten. Many clubs have a goalkeeping coach and it occurs to me that one day Rickie could be a useful Striker coach - at St. Mary's?[/p][/quote]Oh, dear! 3 thumbs down in 30 minutes. Why is this seen as a bad idea?[/p][/quote]Because we already have the finest goal scoring machine this club has ever had a phone call away. This machine was also the finest dribbler, reader of the game, free kick specialist and penalty taker (and finest pie eater too) all rolled into one. Lambert pales by comparison. It will never happen though because the pie eater will never conform to FA, EUFA or FIFA robotic coaching courses or techniques when he knows what made him the most compelling footballer of his generation, the most entertaining and the most efficient at his job was pure uncoachable, unspoilt, undiluted joy of the game and the desire and abilities to try and succeed at the unconventional and improbable and which got him on goal of the month and won him man of the match and had Messi admitting it was him who he (Messi) had emulated when it came to goal scoring. Yet no club will take the risk of hiring him as such because he never ran himself into the ground, tracking back, and all the other football cliches used for players who fit the mould required. He just allowed his own mould to form and worked hard to perfect his own mould. Those posting here too young to have been thrilled by the sight of him leaving three or four defenders (all FA approved coached) wondering where the hell he'd gone or what had just happened to them as they had just been given a lesson in football genius. Or a keeper who had just been deceived by a ball which had just bent from an impossible angle and whacked into the back of the net (still rising) from 30 yards out. There are those of us on here who will go to our deathbeds running those through our minds and wondering if we will ever see that sort of genius again. Alas - we probably will not and neither will you because it is coached out of them as opposed to allowing the youngster free will to develop what the pie eater might be able to encourage them to learn for themselves through hours of trial and error. That is why we don't want the likes of Lambert and the fact that he left us when we needed him most might have a little something to do with it too. Also the way he is still espousing the dirt on the club in public too. No he doesn't need to get on the National Express south - We've got a genius, who will be ignored, already in our midst. Just a phone call away.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that post jls. Almost brings a tear to the eye. Sadly I think you are right and we will never see the likes of MLT again. On the plus side I am old enough to remember his efforts and he is the reason I became a Saints fan.[/p][/quote]Love it. Ron Davies was the one who really hooked me. Been watching them from the late 50's with mild interest but when I watched Ron battering CB's and keepers out of his way I had become a real convert. Then started taking note of Paine and Channon and realized I had just caught a disease for which there is no cure. Here I am still suffering from it and for it.[/p][/quote]Ron Davies battering CBs? I think you are confusing him with George Kirby.[/p][/quote]He didn't need to batter'em.. Just out jump'em..which he did![/p][/quote]Point taken by august gents who clearly have memories surpassing even my ancient and befuddled ones. He was a leapy majestic salmon wasn't he? jls217
  • Score: 0

11:32am Tue 19 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

jls217 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Saint Dennis wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Chipmonk1 wrote:
jls217 wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
I think Rickie is sincere and really does have much respect for us. Perhaps he got In a bit of a tangle in the interview about the summer at St. Mary's but though he no longer plays for us, his contribution will never be forgotten.

Many clubs have a goalkeeping coach and it occurs to me that one day Rickie could be a useful Striker coach - at St. Mary's?
Oh, dear! 3 thumbs down in 30 minutes. Why is this seen as a bad idea?
Because we already have the finest goal scoring machine this club has ever had a phone call away. This machine was also the finest dribbler, reader of the game, free kick specialist and penalty taker (and finest pie eater too) all rolled into one. Lambert pales by comparison.
It will never happen though because the pie eater will never conform to FA, EUFA or FIFA robotic coaching courses or techniques when he knows what made him the most compelling footballer of his generation, the most entertaining and the most efficient at his job was pure uncoachable, unspoilt, undiluted joy of the game and the desire and abilities to try and succeed at the unconventional and improbable and which got him on goal of the month and won him man of the match and had Messi admitting it was him who he (Messi) had emulated when it came to goal scoring. Yet no club will take the risk of hiring him as such because he never ran himself into the ground, tracking back, and all the other football cliches used for players who fit the mould required. He just allowed his own mould to form and worked hard to perfect his own mould. Those posting here too young to have been thrilled by the sight of him leaving three or four defenders (all FA approved coached) wondering where the hell he'd gone or what had just happened to them as they had just been given a lesson in football genius. Or a keeper who had just been deceived by a ball which had just bent from an impossible angle and whacked into the back of the net (still rising) from 30 yards out.
There are those of us on here who will go to our deathbeds running those through our minds and wondering if we will ever see that sort of genius again. Alas - we probably will not and neither will you because it is coached out of them as opposed to allowing the youngster free will to develop what the pie eater might be able to encourage them to learn for themselves through hours of trial and error.
That is why we don't want the likes of Lambert and the fact that he left us when we needed him most might have a little something to do with it too. Also the way he is still espousing the dirt on the club in public too.
No he doesn't need to get on the National Express south - We've got a genius, who will be ignored, already in our midst. Just a phone call away.
Thanks for that post jls. Almost brings a tear to the eye. Sadly I think you are right and we will never see the likes of MLT again. On the plus side I am old enough to remember his efforts and he is the reason I became a Saints fan.
Love it. Ron Davies was the one who really hooked me. Been watching them from the late 50's with mild interest but when I watched Ron battering CB's and keepers out of his way I had become a real convert. Then started taking note of Paine and Channon and realized I had just caught a disease for which there is no cure. Here I am still suffering from it and for it.
Ron Davies battering CBs? I think you are confusing him with George Kirby.
He didn't need to batter'em.. Just out jump'em..which he did!
Point taken by august gents who clearly have memories surpassing even my ancient and befuddled ones. He was a leapy majestic salmon wasn't he?
It wasn't simply that he could outjump defenders. Another Welsh centre forward, Wynne Davies, could outjump him. What he had that was extra special was amazing accuracy with his headers however high he jumped. I can't think of anyone else before or since who was as good in the air as he was. For a tall man in those days, he was also pretty good with his feet too.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Dennis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: I think Rickie is sincere and really does have much respect for us. Perhaps he got In a bit of a tangle in the interview about the summer at St. Mary's but though he no longer plays for us, his contribution will never be forgotten. Many clubs have a goalkeeping coach and it occurs to me that one day Rickie could be a useful Striker coach - at St. Mary's?[/p][/quote]Oh, dear! 3 thumbs down in 30 minutes. Why is this seen as a bad idea?[/p][/quote]Because we already have the finest goal scoring machine this club has ever had a phone call away. This machine was also the finest dribbler, reader of the game, free kick specialist and penalty taker (and finest pie eater too) all rolled into one. Lambert pales by comparison. It will never happen though because the pie eater will never conform to FA, EUFA or FIFA robotic coaching courses or techniques when he knows what made him the most compelling footballer of his generation, the most entertaining and the most efficient at his job was pure uncoachable, unspoilt, undiluted joy of the game and the desire and abilities to try and succeed at the unconventional and improbable and which got him on goal of the month and won him man of the match and had Messi admitting it was him who he (Messi) had emulated when it came to goal scoring. Yet no club will take the risk of hiring him as such because he never ran himself into the ground, tracking back, and all the other football cliches used for players who fit the mould required. He just allowed his own mould to form and worked hard to perfect his own mould. Those posting here too young to have been thrilled by the sight of him leaving three or four defenders (all FA approved coached) wondering where the hell he'd gone or what had just happened to them as they had just been given a lesson in football genius. Or a keeper who had just been deceived by a ball which had just bent from an impossible angle and whacked into the back of the net (still rising) from 30 yards out. There are those of us on here who will go to our deathbeds running those through our minds and wondering if we will ever see that sort of genius again. Alas - we probably will not and neither will you because it is coached out of them as opposed to allowing the youngster free will to develop what the pie eater might be able to encourage them to learn for themselves through hours of trial and error. That is why we don't want the likes of Lambert and the fact that he left us when we needed him most might have a little something to do with it too. Also the way he is still espousing the dirt on the club in public too. No he doesn't need to get on the National Express south - We've got a genius, who will be ignored, already in our midst. Just a phone call away.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that post jls. Almost brings a tear to the eye. Sadly I think you are right and we will never see the likes of MLT again. On the plus side I am old enough to remember his efforts and he is the reason I became a Saints fan.[/p][/quote]Love it. Ron Davies was the one who really hooked me. Been watching them from the late 50's with mild interest but when I watched Ron battering CB's and keepers out of his way I had become a real convert. Then started taking note of Paine and Channon and realized I had just caught a disease for which there is no cure. Here I am still suffering from it and for it.[/p][/quote]Ron Davies battering CBs? I think you are confusing him with George Kirby.[/p][/quote]He didn't need to batter'em.. Just out jump'em..which he did![/p][/quote]Point taken by august gents who clearly have memories surpassing even my ancient and befuddled ones. He was a leapy majestic salmon wasn't he?[/p][/quote]It wasn't simply that he could outjump defenders. Another Welsh centre forward, Wynne Davies, could outjump him. What he had that was extra special was amazing accuracy with his headers however high he jumped. I can't think of anyone else before or since who was as good in the air as he was. For a tall man in those days, he was also pretty good with his feet too. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

11:33am Tue 19 Aug 14

Clever Dick says...

Confucious wrote:
Rickie is spot on as usual. I remember when I was in my twenties the firm I worked for was doing rather well and I requested an increase in salary from £32 a week to £45,000 a week. I thought this would signal the firm's ambition to push ahead and my primary interest in this was a passion for the firm's customers and for my colleagues.

The board not only turned me down but transferred me to the Timbuktu branch. Unbelievably most of my colleagues - the very people I was trying to help - criticised me rather than the board. The cowering fools simply couldn't see that having a £45,000 a week employee was essential to displaying real corporate vision.

The whole thing was rather puzzling and sad, but I suppose that's business for you. These blinkered company directors are just obsessed with money and allow their misplaced focus on it to destroy any bigger dreams for the company.
Quality
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Rickie is spot on as usual. I remember when I was in my twenties the firm I worked for was doing rather well and I requested an increase in salary from £32 a week to £45,000 a week. I thought this would signal the firm's ambition to push ahead and my primary interest in this was a passion for the firm's customers and for my colleagues. The board not only turned me down but transferred me to the Timbuktu branch. Unbelievably most of my colleagues - the very people I was trying to help - criticised me rather than the board. The cowering fools simply couldn't see that having a £45,000 a week employee was essential to displaying real corporate vision. The whole thing was rather puzzling and sad, but I suppose that's business for you. These blinkered company directors are just obsessed with money and allow their misplaced focus on it to destroy any bigger dreams for the company.[/p][/quote]Quality Clever Dick
  • Score: 3

11:34am Tue 19 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

It's Kat's money,and she can do what she like with it..and she is.
I like what she is doing with it,at this present moment in time.It is all looking good.
I refuse to be a hypocrite,and condemn the previous regime, only with hindsight (which is all we've got),very few of us hadn't got aboard the train to glory,when Cortese was bringing home the bacon.
It's Kat's money,and she can do what she like with it..and she is. I like what she is doing with it,at this present moment in time.It is all looking good. I refuse to be a hypocrite,and condemn the previous regime, only with hindsight (which is all we've got),very few of us hadn't got aboard the train to glory,when Cortese was bringing home the bacon. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 3

11:37am Tue 19 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Pochettino is nothing like the manager Koeman is, but SRL (like most of the other leavers) was a member of his favoured dressing-room clique.
We'll never forget the huge part Rickie played in the (Liebherr funded) rise from the ashes but it's naïve (or possibly malicious) journalism to print his opinions of the board and owner when they are so coloured in favour of the defunct regime.
I suspect that there are one or two at the club now (JWP in particular) who will thrive post Pochettino/Lallana etc as they step out of the shadows. Hopefully they are those who would crawl over broken glass to play for us COYS
Some have reported on here that Poxi was only interested in the 16 or so that played in first team, if that is correct I would expect a few will flourish.
Nathaniel Clyne will actually the ne I think who will make the biggest step up this season. Expect him to make full England squad.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Pochettino is nothing like the manager Koeman is, but SRL (like most of the other leavers) was a member of his favoured dressing-room clique. We'll never forget the huge part Rickie played in the (Liebherr funded) rise from the ashes but it's naïve (or possibly malicious) journalism to print his opinions of the board and owner when they are so coloured in favour of the defunct regime.[/p][/quote]I suspect that there are one or two at the club now (JWP in particular) who will thrive post Pochettino/Lallana etc as they step out of the shadows. Hopefully they are those who would crawl over broken glass to play for us COYS[/p][/quote]Some have reported on here that Poxi was only interested in the 16 or so that played in first team, if that is correct I would expect a few will flourish.[/p][/quote]Nathaniel Clyne will actually the ne I think who will make the biggest step up this season. Expect him to make full England squad. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 5

11:46am Tue 19 Aug 14

bluewhiteandred says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Whether we could have gone higher and kept some of the players is now a mute pint.

Personally I think we could have reachedthe promised land and put ourselves on the global map, certainly considering how far we as a club had come and how many times over Marcus's investment had been increased it was worth the punt.

The quation facing the board now is were do they want to be in 5-10 years time, we cannot constantly be raped everytime we progress because the fan base cannot grow if there is not a degree of success involved…

For me there are I think are at least 14 bigger stadiums in the country and we need to increase ours…

This would be an investment outside of FFP and leave a meaningful legacy as players themselves come and go…

The ambition has to be an average plus 42k crowd…those 12.000 extra seats would produce the revenues necessary to pay the wages of 2 more absolute class players …that is the difference of 3 league places on last year..

Whether the board are steadying the ship or were guilty of a lack of ambition is now irrelevant, the future to prevent a repeat is highly relevant..we need the increased stadium to partially fulfill our potential..
It will never happen any more seats under ms liebherr I think the team who could of raised Saints fortunes are gone and Poch and cortesse also ms liebherr has no interest in Saints winning anything she knows your academy set up has made a big profits and will do so again if you can recover I don't know you sold to many in one go ?
bottom half this season played well at Liverpool hope of avoiding the drop
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Whether we could have gone higher and kept some of the players is now a mute pint. Personally I think we could have reachedthe promised land and put ourselves on the global map, certainly considering how far we as a club had come and how many times over Marcus's investment had been increased it was worth the punt. The quation facing the board now is were do they want to be in 5-10 years time, we cannot constantly be raped everytime we progress because the fan base cannot grow if there is not a degree of success involved… For me there are I think are at least 14 bigger stadiums in the country and we need to increase ours… This would be an investment outside of FFP and leave a meaningful legacy as players themselves come and go… The ambition has to be an average plus 42k crowd…those 12.000 extra seats would produce the revenues necessary to pay the wages of 2 more absolute class players …that is the difference of 3 league places on last year.. Whether the board are steadying the ship or were guilty of a lack of ambition is now irrelevant, the future to prevent a repeat is highly relevant..we need the increased stadium to partially fulfill our potential..[/p][/quote]It will never happen any more seats under ms liebherr I think the team who could of raised Saints fortunes are gone and Poch and cortesse also ms liebherr has no interest in Saints winning anything she knows your academy set up has made a big profits and will do so again if you can recover I don't know you sold to many in one go ? bottom half this season played well at Liverpool hope of avoiding the drop bluewhiteandred
  • Score: -13

11:47am Tue 19 Aug 14

Costa Baz says...

costa gaz wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
Bernadette M. Nicholas wrote:
my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out
http://x.co/5Hkqe
How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else!

Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.
It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.
I did and they didn't.
Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't.
This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman...
Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us.
If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.
whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??
It's a little poke at the same people who keep blaming the press for everything T.
The press get blamed, Steve Gerrard got blamed, Roy Hodgson the list is endless.
Today I read that Pochettino was tapped up by .... wait for it.... Osvaldo Ardilles.

Yet an ex-employee, who would probably know what went on, suggested where the blame lies and its viewed as blasphemy.
Yes an ex employee has "suggested", where the blame lies, but yet again, like all the others he doesn't have the balls to back up his suggestion with actual evidence.

Nor does he have the balls to put forward his reasons why he, and the others, thought the board's ambition wasn't in keeping with that of the players. Maybe that is because the players aren't sure the fans would take their side, if they put it out there?

I think the reference, in comments put out by the board, to some players wishing to take short cuts, to European football, is key.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bernadette M. Nicholas[/bold] wrote: my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out http://x.co/5Hkqe[/p][/quote]How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else! Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.[/p][/quote]It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.[/p][/quote]I did and they didn't.[/p][/quote]Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't. This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman... Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us. If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.[/p][/quote]whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??[/p][/quote]It's a little poke at the same people who keep blaming the press for everything T. The press get blamed, Steve Gerrard got blamed, Roy Hodgson the list is endless. Today I read that Pochettino was tapped up by .... wait for it.... Osvaldo Ardilles. Yet an ex-employee, who would probably know what went on, suggested where the blame lies and its viewed as blasphemy.[/p][/quote]Yes an ex employee has "suggested", where the blame lies, but yet again, like all the others he doesn't have the balls to back up his suggestion with actual evidence. Nor does he have the balls to put forward his reasons why he, and the others, thought the board's ambition wasn't in keeping with that of the players. Maybe that is because the players aren't sure the fans would take their side, if they put it out there? I think the reference, in comments put out by the board, to some players wishing to take short cuts, to European football, is key. Costa Baz
  • Score: 5

11:48am Tue 19 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
Bernadette M. Nicholas wrote:
my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out
http://x.co/5Hkqe
How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else!

Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.
It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.
I did and they didn't.
Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't.
This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman...
Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us.
If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.
I have just read this on facebook.

Why are Southampton nicknamed The Saints ?

Because all their players have gone to a better place .

I will on the phone to Mark Zuckerberg as soon as poss.
I wont really, but we have to expect a little banter after all we did not give Pompey very much did we?
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bernadette M. Nicholas[/bold] wrote: my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out http://x.co/5Hkqe[/p][/quote]How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else! Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.[/p][/quote]It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.[/p][/quote]I did and they didn't.[/p][/quote]Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't. This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman... Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us. If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.[/p][/quote]I have just read this on facebook. Why are Southampton nicknamed The Saints ? Because all their players have gone to a better place . I will on the phone to Mark Zuckerberg as soon as poss. I wont really, but we have to expect a little banter after all we did not give Pompey very much did we? costa gaz
  • Score: -6

11:54am Tue 19 Aug 14

Confucious says...

Uncle Fred writes: My young nephew Luke has bought a new Ferrari and earns £100,000 a week just by playing football on Saturdays. Phone confuciouscareerment
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Uncle Fred writes: My young nephew Luke has bought a new Ferrari and earns £100,000 a week just by playing football on Saturdays. Phone confuciouscareerment oring.com on 0897662453 5683 (calls charged at £2000 a minute) for more information. Confucious
  • Score: 13

11:57am Tue 19 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

Costa Baz wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
Bernadette M. Nicholas wrote:
my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out
http://x.co/5Hkqe
How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else!

Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.
It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.
I did and they didn't.
Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't.
This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman...
Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us.
If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.
whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??
It's a little poke at the same people who keep blaming the press for everything T.
The press get blamed, Steve Gerrard got blamed, Roy Hodgson the list is endless.
Today I read that Pochettino was tapped up by .... wait for it.... Osvaldo Ardilles.

Yet an ex-employee, who would probably know what went on, suggested where the blame lies and its viewed as blasphemy.
Yes an ex employee has "suggested", where the blame lies, but yet again, like all the others he doesn't have the balls to back up his suggestion with actual evidence.

Nor does he have the balls to put forward his reasons why he, and the others, thought the board's ambition wasn't in keeping with that of the players. Maybe that is because the players aren't sure the fans would take their side, if they put it out there?

I think the reference, in comments put out by the board, to some players wishing to take short cuts, to European football, is key.
Amen
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bernadette M. Nicholas[/bold] wrote: my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out http://x.co/5Hkqe[/p][/quote]How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else! Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.[/p][/quote]It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.[/p][/quote]I did and they didn't.[/p][/quote]Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't. This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman... Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us. If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.[/p][/quote]whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??[/p][/quote]It's a little poke at the same people who keep blaming the press for everything T. The press get blamed, Steve Gerrard got blamed, Roy Hodgson the list is endless. Today I read that Pochettino was tapped up by .... wait for it.... Osvaldo Ardilles. Yet an ex-employee, who would probably know what went on, suggested where the blame lies and its viewed as blasphemy.[/p][/quote]Yes an ex employee has "suggested", where the blame lies, but yet again, like all the others he doesn't have the balls to back up his suggestion with actual evidence. Nor does he have the balls to put forward his reasons why he, and the others, thought the board's ambition wasn't in keeping with that of the players. Maybe that is because the players aren't sure the fans would take their side, if they put it out there? I think the reference, in comments put out by the board, to some players wishing to take short cuts, to European football, is key.[/p][/quote]Amen KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 2

12:07pm Tue 19 Aug 14

TGodSFC says...

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
Bernadette M. Nicholas wrote:
my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out
http://x.co/5Hkqe
How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else!

Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.
It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.
I did and they didn't.
Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't.
This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman...
Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us.
If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.
whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??
It's a little poke at the same people who keep blaming the press for everything T.
The press get blamed, Steve Gerrard got blamed, Roy Hodgson the list is endless.
Today I read that Pochettino was tapped up by .... wait for it.... Osvaldo Ardilles.

Yet an ex-employee, who would probably know what went on, suggested where the blame lies and its viewed as blasphemy.
Yes an ex employee has "suggested", where the blame lies, but yet again, like all the others he doesn't have the balls to back up his suggestion with actual evidence.

Nor does he have the balls to put forward his reasons why he, and the others, thought the board's ambition wasn't in keeping with that of the players. Maybe that is because the players aren't sure the fans would take their side, if they put it out there?

I think the reference, in comments put out by the board, to some players wishing to take short cuts, to European football, is key.
Amen
If Swans and Hull sh!ty can get European football. we can.
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bernadette M. Nicholas[/bold] wrote: my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out http://x.co/5Hkqe[/p][/quote]How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else! Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.[/p][/quote]It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.[/p][/quote]I did and they didn't.[/p][/quote]Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't. This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman... Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us. If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.[/p][/quote]whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??[/p][/quote]It's a little poke at the same people who keep blaming the press for everything T. The press get blamed, Steve Gerrard got blamed, Roy Hodgson the list is endless. Today I read that Pochettino was tapped up by .... wait for it.... Osvaldo Ardilles. Yet an ex-employee, who would probably know what went on, suggested where the blame lies and its viewed as blasphemy.[/p][/quote]Yes an ex employee has "suggested", where the blame lies, but yet again, like all the others he doesn't have the balls to back up his suggestion with actual evidence. Nor does he have the balls to put forward his reasons why he, and the others, thought the board's ambition wasn't in keeping with that of the players. Maybe that is because the players aren't sure the fans would take their side, if they put it out there? I think the reference, in comments put out by the board, to some players wishing to take short cuts, to European football, is key.[/p][/quote]Amen[/p][/quote]If Swans and Hull sh!ty can get European football. we can. TGodSFC
  • Score: 0

12:13pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Costa Baz wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
Bernadette M. Nicholas wrote:
my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out
http://x.co/5Hkqe
How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else!

Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.
It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.
I did and they didn't.
Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't.
This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman...
Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us.
If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.
whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??
It's a little poke at the same people who keep blaming the press for everything T.
The press get blamed, Steve Gerrard got blamed, Roy Hodgson the list is endless.
Today I read that Pochettino was tapped up by .... wait for it.... Osvaldo Ardilles.

Yet an ex-employee, who would probably know what went on, suggested where the blame lies and its viewed as blasphemy.
Yes an ex employee has "suggested", where the blame lies, but yet again, like all the others he doesn't have the balls to back up his suggestion with actual evidence.

Nor does he have the balls to put forward his reasons why he, and the others, thought the board's ambition wasn't in keeping with that of the players. Maybe that is because the players aren't sure the fans would take their side, if they put it out there?

I think the reference, in comments put out by the board, to some players wishing to take short cuts, to European football, is key.
But didn't they all come out publicly when Cortese left,and say they didn't want MoPo to leave.Not trying to score points here by the way,but I seem to remember that happening?
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bernadette M. Nicholas[/bold] wrote: my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out http://x.co/5Hkqe[/p][/quote]How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else! Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.[/p][/quote]It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.[/p][/quote]I did and they didn't.[/p][/quote]Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't. This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman... Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us. If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.[/p][/quote]whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??[/p][/quote]It's a little poke at the same people who keep blaming the press for everything T. The press get blamed, Steve Gerrard got blamed, Roy Hodgson the list is endless. Today I read that Pochettino was tapped up by .... wait for it.... Osvaldo Ardilles. Yet an ex-employee, who would probably know what went on, suggested where the blame lies and its viewed as blasphemy.[/p][/quote]Yes an ex employee has "suggested", where the blame lies, but yet again, like all the others he doesn't have the balls to back up his suggestion with actual evidence. Nor does he have the balls to put forward his reasons why he, and the others, thought the board's ambition wasn't in keeping with that of the players. Maybe that is because the players aren't sure the fans would take their side, if they put it out there? I think the reference, in comments put out by the board, to some players wishing to take short cuts, to European football, is key.[/p][/quote]But didn't they all come out publicly when Cortese left,and say they didn't want MoPo to leave.Not trying to score points here by the way,but I seem to remember that happening? Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

12:18pm Tue 19 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

TGodSFC wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
Bernadette M. Nicholas wrote:
my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out
http://x.co/5Hkqe
How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else!

Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.
It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.
I did and they didn't.
Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't.
This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman...
Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us.
If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.
whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??
It's a little poke at the same people who keep blaming the press for everything T.
The press get blamed, Steve Gerrard got blamed, Roy Hodgson the list is endless.
Today I read that Pochettino was tapped up by .... wait for it.... Osvaldo Ardilles.

Yet an ex-employee, who would probably know what went on, suggested where the blame lies and its viewed as blasphemy.
Yes an ex employee has "suggested", where the blame lies, but yet again, like all the others he doesn't have the balls to back up his suggestion with actual evidence.

Nor does he have the balls to put forward his reasons why he, and the others, thought the board's ambition wasn't in keeping with that of the players. Maybe that is because the players aren't sure the fans would take their side, if they put it out there?

I think the reference, in comments put out by the board, to some players wishing to take short cuts, to European football, is key.
Amen
If Swans and Hull sh!ty can get European football. we can.
Fair Play, true mate.
[quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bernadette M. Nicholas[/bold] wrote: my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out http://x.co/5Hkqe[/p][/quote]How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else! Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.[/p][/quote]It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.[/p][/quote]I did and they didn't.[/p][/quote]Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't. This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman... Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us. If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.[/p][/quote]whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??[/p][/quote]It's a little poke at the same people who keep blaming the press for everything T. The press get blamed, Steve Gerrard got blamed, Roy Hodgson the list is endless. Today I read that Pochettino was tapped up by .... wait for it.... Osvaldo Ardilles. Yet an ex-employee, who would probably know what went on, suggested where the blame lies and its viewed as blasphemy.[/p][/quote]Yes an ex employee has "suggested", where the blame lies, but yet again, like all the others he doesn't have the balls to back up his suggestion with actual evidence. Nor does he have the balls to put forward his reasons why he, and the others, thought the board's ambition wasn't in keeping with that of the players. Maybe that is because the players aren't sure the fans would take their side, if they put it out there? I think the reference, in comments put out by the board, to some players wishing to take short cuts, to European football, is key.[/p][/quote]Amen[/p][/quote]If Swans and Hull sh!ty can get European football. we can.[/p][/quote]Fair Play, true mate. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 0

12:23pm Tue 19 Aug 14

TheTom says...

Why don't you just go and patronise us Lambert - oh you just have!!!!! What did you really expect or, hope for - that we were going to lie down and let you walk all over us???? I've never been so proud or, so gutted after a match because we truly deserved all the points only for the Scousers to once again nick it; which just sums them up. We will have our revenge and I for one woud not want to be playing for WBA at the weekend. COYR!!!!!
Why don't you just go and patronise us Lambert - oh you just have!!!!! What did you really expect or, hope for - that we were going to lie down and let you walk all over us???? I've never been so proud or, so gutted after a match because we truly deserved all the points only for the Scousers to once again nick it; which just sums them up. We will have our revenge and I for one woud not want to be playing for WBA at the weekend. COYR!!!!! TheTom
  • Score: 3

12:41pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Tersites says...

Dear Sir / Madam,

I am writing to register my absolute and utter DISGUST at the "Ronald Koeman" cartoons on your website: http://www.theguardi
an.com/football/gall
ery/2014/aug/19/rona
ld-koeman-the-galler
y-southampton#/?pict
ure=444806438&index=
7

This so called "humour" is an abomination! The pictures are highly insulting (linking Koeman to a cow!_) and I would suspect slanderous (calling Koeman a liar etc). No one allows racist or sexism, or anti-religious slander, so why, I'd sincerely like to know do you find publishing this sort of absolute venom against one man acceptable on your webpages? I would expect that there is possibly a case for legal action.

I've always been a reader and a fan of the Guardian newspaper, and am stunned and surprised that you would allow this to be published?

I look forward to the immediate removal of this page, and an expedient reply on how you can possibly justify this as 'humour' and allow this page to be published?

Regards,

Tommy.
Dear Sir / Madam, I am writing to register my absolute and utter DISGUST at the "Ronald Koeman" cartoons on your website: http://www.theguardi an.com/football/gall ery/2014/aug/19/rona ld-koeman-the-galler y-southampton#/?pict ure=444806438&index= 7 This so called "humour" is an abomination! The pictures are highly insulting (linking Koeman to a cow!_) and I would suspect slanderous (calling Koeman a liar etc). No one allows racist or sexism, or anti-religious slander, so why, I'd sincerely like to know do you find publishing this sort of absolute venom against one man acceptable on your webpages? I would expect that there is possibly a case for legal action. I've always been a reader and a fan of the Guardian newspaper, and am stunned and surprised that you would allow this to be published? I look forward to the immediate removal of this page, and an expedient reply on how you can possibly justify this as 'humour' and allow this page to be published? Regards, Tommy. Tersites
  • Score: 2

12:42pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Quite Frankly says...

milton road wrote:
If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but Thank you
The Gallery is a regular feature, where people contribute their ideas about a football story.

As a Guardian-reading season ticket holder at Saints, I'm not suprised that 'we' have featured in The Gallery, given events at the club since the end of last season.

If you cannot enjoy it for a bit of gallows humour, that's up to you - but don't show yourself up by whining about a satirical column in a newspaper which generally is quite favourable in how it reports Saints.
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but Thank you[/p][/quote]The Gallery is a regular feature, where people contribute their ideas about a football story. As a Guardian-reading season ticket holder at Saints, I'm not suprised that 'we' have featured in The Gallery, given events at the club since the end of last season. If you cannot enjoy it for a bit of gallows humour, that's up to you - but don't show yourself up by whining about a satirical column in a newspaper which generally is quite favourable in how it reports Saints. Quite Frankly
  • Score: 1

12:43pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Tersites says...

Sent that to the Guardian. What a disgrace! ... Don't know if I'll get a reply. Thought I'd share on our local Echo discussion.
Sent that to the Guardian. What a disgrace! ... Don't know if I'll get a reply. Thought I'd share on our local Echo discussion. Tersites
  • Score: -3

12:46pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Tersites says...

Quite Frankly wrote:
milton road wrote:
If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but Thank you
The Gallery is a regular feature, where people contribute their ideas about a football story.

As a Guardian-reading season ticket holder at Saints, I'm not suprised that 'we' have featured in The Gallery, given events at the club since the end of last season.

If you cannot enjoy it for a bit of gallows humour, that's up to you - but don't show yourself up by whining about a satirical column in a newspaper which generally is quite favourable in how it reports Saints.
I think there is only one person "showing themselves up", and that's someone who finds that "acceptable". Ronald Koeman should be respected. I am a season ticket holder and lifelong Southampton supporter, are you?
[quote][p][bold]Quite Frankly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but Thank you[/p][/quote]The Gallery is a regular feature, where people contribute their ideas about a football story. As a Guardian-reading season ticket holder at Saints, I'm not suprised that 'we' have featured in The Gallery, given events at the club since the end of last season. If you cannot enjoy it for a bit of gallows humour, that's up to you - but don't show yourself up by whining about a satirical column in a newspaper which generally is quite favourable in how it reports Saints.[/p][/quote]I think there is only one person "showing themselves up", and that's someone who finds that "acceptable". Ronald Koeman should be respected. I am a season ticket holder and lifelong Southampton supporter, are you? Tersites
  • Score: -3

12:46pm Tue 19 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

TheTom wrote:
Why don't you just go and patronise us Lambert - oh you just have!!!!! What did you really expect or, hope for - that we were going to lie down and let you walk all over us???? I've never been so proud or, so gutted after a match because we truly deserved all the points only for the Scousers to once again nick it; which just sums them up. We will have our revenge and I for one woud not want to be playing for WBA at the weekend. COYR!!!!!
True, but we need to respect them and turn up ready to fight for the points. If we show the sort of steel and concentration we showed on Sunday we should be impressive. Wonder if Shane will get a start against his old club? Hard to see who you would drop unless Ron loses Davis from midfield. Not sure I'd do that though. Depends if we want to be equally combatative in midfield or give them more to think about up front.

Personally for home games I think he'll give Pelle some support and choose between Davis, JWP and Wanyama depending on the opposition.
[quote][p][bold]TheTom[/bold] wrote: Why don't you just go and patronise us Lambert - oh you just have!!!!! What did you really expect or, hope for - that we were going to lie down and let you walk all over us???? I've never been so proud or, so gutted after a match because we truly deserved all the points only for the Scousers to once again nick it; which just sums them up. We will have our revenge and I for one woud not want to be playing for WBA at the weekend. COYR!!!!![/p][/quote]True, but we need to respect them and turn up ready to fight for the points. If we show the sort of steel and concentration we showed on Sunday we should be impressive. Wonder if Shane will get a start against his old club? Hard to see who you would drop unless Ron loses Davis from midfield. Not sure I'd do that though. Depends if we want to be equally combatative in midfield or give them more to think about up front. Personally for home games I think he'll give Pelle some support and choose between Davis, JWP and Wanyama depending on the opposition. SaintJD
  • Score: 0

1:01pm Tue 19 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Tersites wrote:
Quite Frankly wrote:
milton road wrote:
If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but Thank you
The Gallery is a regular feature, where people contribute their ideas about a football story.

As a Guardian-reading season ticket holder at Saints, I'm not suprised that 'we' have featured in The Gallery, given events at the club since the end of last season.

If you cannot enjoy it for a bit of gallows humour, that's up to you - but don't show yourself up by whining about a satirical column in a newspaper which generally is quite favourable in how it reports Saints.
I think there is only one person "showing themselves up", and that's someone who finds that "acceptable". Ronald Koeman should be respected. I am a season ticket holder and lifelong Southampton supporter, are you?
Agree some of the jokes are offensive to the people featured, but to be fair the ideas are submitted by fans, so it's no different to Man Utd fans loading shed loads of YouTube clips taking the micky out of Steven Gerrard's slip last season.

If you want to find something to take offence to in an age when everyone can basically post what they want or comment on what they want you're going to have a long list of letters to write.

Ron is on Twitter FFS, so I'm sure he gets a barrage of abuse on a daily basis - you need a thick skin for social media.

I'm also sure Danny Fox, Guly, Maya, Ralph, Katherina or Les Reed (or any of our recently departed players) could be equally justified in complaining to the Echo about highly offensive comments on this forum come to that - and they are from our own fans (mostly).

If it was a gallery of Pompey liquidation spoofs featuring that old lady on a scooter I'm sure we'd all be laughing our heads off at it.
[quote][p][bold]Tersites[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quite Frankly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but Thank you[/p][/quote]The Gallery is a regular feature, where people contribute their ideas about a football story. As a Guardian-reading season ticket holder at Saints, I'm not suprised that 'we' have featured in The Gallery, given events at the club since the end of last season. If you cannot enjoy it for a bit of gallows humour, that's up to you - but don't show yourself up by whining about a satirical column in a newspaper which generally is quite favourable in how it reports Saints.[/p][/quote]I think there is only one person "showing themselves up", and that's someone who finds that "acceptable". Ronald Koeman should be respected. I am a season ticket holder and lifelong Southampton supporter, are you?[/p][/quote]Agree some of the jokes are offensive to the people featured, but to be fair the ideas are submitted by fans, so it's no different to Man Utd fans loading shed loads of YouTube clips taking the micky out of Steven Gerrard's slip last season. If you want to find something to take offence to in an age when everyone can basically post what they want or comment on what they want you're going to have a long list of letters to write. Ron is on Twitter FFS, so I'm sure he gets a barrage of abuse on a daily basis - you need a thick skin for social media. I'm also sure Danny Fox, Guly, Maya, Ralph, Katherina or Les Reed (or any of our recently departed players) could be equally justified in complaining to the Echo about highly offensive comments on this forum come to that - and they are from our own fans (mostly). If it was a gallery of Pompey liquidation spoofs featuring that old lady on a scooter I'm sure we'd all be laughing our heads off at it. SaintJD
  • Score: 3

1:13pm Tue 19 Aug 14

ToastyTea says...

Was anybody at the game Sunday, what did he do at the end of the game ? (come over and clap Saints fans ?) and what about Lovren ? (guess he just walked off)
Was anybody at the game Sunday, what did he do at the end of the game ? (come over and clap Saints fans ?) and what about Lovren ? (guess he just walked off) ToastyTea
  • Score: 2

1:14pm Tue 19 Aug 14

jls217 says...

TGodSFC wrote:
jls217 wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
St Mark wrote:
milton road wrote:
If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but
Thank you
I don't see it - would like to complain if I could.
utter disgrace!!!
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No it's not a disgrace. You can make the choice to be indignantly offended ( I **** hate that word it's........... well, offensive) if you wish - your choice to make what ever you want seem offensive.

I do not - I've just looked through this and the other galleries and it's rather , pithy, sarcastic, observant and funny.

Saints played a blinder of a game under circumstances which lead many to think we might have been slaughtered, we dominated whole swathes of that game and looked the most likely to win it. However, on reading 3 major Monday news rags I find all the column inches and photos to be all about Skiverpool's rebuilding and money spent and how Sturridge stole the show and Rogered Brenda's style etc etc bloody etc. In the middle of the Liverhampton adulation pages there was a rather begrudged. "Well the visiting team did okay to weather the storm" WTF! We shoved it right up them! The point I'm making is that if it's a cartoon mickey taking session that is going to get us mentioned in the press then let's have some more of it because our football prowess as admirable as it was barely got a bloody mention. Noticed the same for the Manky Schitty and Manure games too - the opposition were hardly mentioned.
I despair but at least when I saw the lampooning I was chuckling and despairing at the same time. Lighten up mate it was funny and if we can't laugh at ourselves we may as well just lay in bed all day with the duvet over our heads wishing the nasty world to go away. Can I have a Lallana to go with the Lambert - hurtful comic genius.
I know what you’re trying to say and I've not been of a mind-set that, this is a disaster summer, we’re going to get relegated, and Kat is selling and asset stripping. But the media have! The media had nothing to print until the WC started and personally feel a full scale attack was set upon SFC. I do think they were funny but I will defend the club and Ronald till the end and I think it was too obvious and in poor taste and it’s just attack after attack on SFC by the media again. Anyone can stand behind the crowd and point and laugh but to stand up and be original that rare.
Good points but you and I will not fight the media or understand just what it is they seem to have against us. The best thing we can do is remain humble, go quietly about our business and prove the boooogers wrong time and time again.
[quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Mark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but Thank you[/p][/quote]I don't see it - would like to complain if I could.[/p][/quote]utter disgrace!!! http://www.theguardi an.com/football/gall ery/2014/aug/19/rona ld-koeman-the-galler y-southampton#/?pict ure=444738263&in dex= 6[/p][/quote]No it's not a disgrace. You can make the choice to be indignantly offended ( I **** hate that word it's........... well, offensive) if you wish - your choice to make what ever you want seem offensive. I do not - I've just looked through this and the other galleries and it's rather , pithy, sarcastic, observant and funny. Saints played a blinder of a game under circumstances which lead many to think we might have been slaughtered, we dominated whole swathes of that game and looked the most likely to win it. However, on reading 3 major Monday news rags I find all the column inches and photos to be all about Skiverpool's rebuilding and money spent and how Sturridge stole the show and Rogered Brenda's style etc etc bloody etc. In the middle of the Liverhampton adulation pages there was a rather begrudged. "Well the visiting team did okay to weather the storm" WTF! We shoved it right up them! The point I'm making is that if it's a cartoon mickey taking session that is going to get us mentioned in the press then let's have some more of it because our football prowess as admirable as it was barely got a bloody mention. Noticed the same for the Manky Schitty and Manure games too - the opposition were hardly mentioned. I despair but at least when I saw the lampooning I was chuckling and despairing at the same time. Lighten up mate it was funny and if we can't laugh at ourselves we may as well just lay in bed all day with the duvet over our heads wishing the nasty world to go away. Can I have a Lallana to go with the Lambert - hurtful comic genius.[/p][/quote]I know what you’re trying to say and I've not been of a mind-set that, this is a disaster summer, we’re going to get relegated, and Kat is selling and asset stripping. But the media have! The media had nothing to print until the WC started and personally feel a full scale attack was set upon SFC. I do think they were funny but I will defend the club and Ronald till the end and I think it was too obvious and in poor taste and it’s just attack after attack on SFC by the media again. Anyone can stand behind the crowd and point and laugh but to stand up and be original that rare.[/p][/quote]Good points but you and I will not fight the media or understand just what it is they seem to have against us. The best thing we can do is remain humble, go quietly about our business and prove the boooogers wrong time and time again. jls217
  • Score: 0

1:22pm Tue 19 Aug 14

bstokesaint says...

SouthamptonLegend wrote:
That ambition was probably to spend a hell of a lot more money that we simply could not sustain. If we owed £27m from transfers the previous season imagine what that debt would have been this season without the sale of players... We are an ambitious club (since Liebherr took over), we just have to make our own money first to spend on taking the club further, something Cortese started to do but it was soon getting out of hand and Katharina stepped in at the right time. I think we have the best manager we've had since Strachan. So the ambition cannot be questioned imo.
Here here. I don't think it's down to the players to decide how the board run the club. In most workplaces, mine included, you put your faith in your manager and they in their manager, all the way up to the board level, to do the jobs they are paid to do. Results speak volumes. And the club were doing well. Very well in fact. The players were being paid fantastic money to represent (in most cases, except Lovren) the club that they had one day dreamed of playing for when they joined the academy. As others have stated it's likely that Poch through his charismatic nature had the majority of the team eating out of the palm of his hand. I'm sure when Poch found out Cortese was leaving he gave his followers the news in the shape that the club no longer had any ambition and (conveniently) they and he had a good reason to seek success elsewhere.
I love Rickie, but he'd do well to stick to the pitch and stay out of the political side. Maybe he feels a little guilty too that his dream of playing for his childhood team wasn't that of Lallana’s, yet he's the one who is a hero and Lallana's name on the south coast is now mud!
[quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote: That ambition was probably to spend a hell of a lot more money that we simply could not sustain. If we owed £27m from transfers the previous season imagine what that debt would have been this season without the sale of players... We are an ambitious club (since Liebherr took over), we just have to make our own money first to spend on taking the club further, something Cortese started to do but it was soon getting out of hand and Katharina stepped in at the right time. I think we have the best manager we've had since Strachan. So the ambition cannot be questioned imo.[/p][/quote]Here here. I don't think it's down to the players to decide how the board run the club. In most workplaces, mine included, you put your faith in your manager and they in their manager, all the way up to the board level, to do the jobs they are paid to do. Results speak volumes. And the club were doing well. Very well in fact. The players were being paid fantastic money to represent (in most cases, except Lovren) the club that they had one day dreamed of playing for when they joined the academy. As others have stated it's likely that Poch through his charismatic nature had the majority of the team eating out of the palm of his hand. I'm sure when Poch found out Cortese was leaving he gave his followers the news in the shape that the club no longer had any ambition and (conveniently) they and he had a good reason to seek success elsewhere. I love Rickie, but he'd do well to stick to the pitch and stay out of the political side. Maybe he feels a little guilty too that his dream of playing for his childhood team wasn't that of Lallana’s, yet he's the one who is a hero and Lallana's name on the south coast is now mud! bstokesaint
  • Score: 8

1:25pm Tue 19 Aug 14

jls217 says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Whether we could have gone higher and kept some of the players is now a mute pint.

Personally I think we could have reachedthe promised land and put ourselves on the global map, certainly considering how far we as a club had come and how many times over Marcus's investment had been increased it was worth the punt.

The quation facing the board now is were do they want to be in 5-10 years time, we cannot constantly be raped everytime we progress because the fan base cannot grow if there is not a degree of success involved…

For me there are I think are at least 14 bigger stadiums in the country and we need to increase ours…

This would be an investment outside of FFP and leave a meaningful legacy as players themselves come and go…

The ambition has to be an average plus 42k crowd…those 12.000 extra seats would produce the revenues necessary to pay the wages of 2 more absolute class players …that is the difference of 3 league places on last year..

Whether the board are steadying the ship or were guilty of a lack of ambition is now irrelevant, the future to prevent a repeat is highly relevant..we need the increased stadium to partially fulfill our potential..
I like mute pints!
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Whether we could have gone higher and kept some of the players is now a mute pint. Personally I think we could have reachedthe promised land and put ourselves on the global map, certainly considering how far we as a club had come and how many times over Marcus's investment had been increased it was worth the punt. The quation facing the board now is were do they want to be in 5-10 years time, we cannot constantly be raped everytime we progress because the fan base cannot grow if there is not a degree of success involved… For me there are I think are at least 14 bigger stadiums in the country and we need to increase ours… This would be an investment outside of FFP and leave a meaningful legacy as players themselves come and go… The ambition has to be an average plus 42k crowd…those 12.000 extra seats would produce the revenues necessary to pay the wages of 2 more absolute class players …that is the difference of 3 league places on last year.. Whether the board are steadying the ship or were guilty of a lack of ambition is now irrelevant, the future to prevent a repeat is highly relevant..we need the increased stadium to partially fulfill our potential..[/p][/quote]I like mute pints! jls217
  • Score: 0

1:25pm Tue 19 Aug 14

bstokesaint says...

Costa Baz wrote:
Lambert added: “There’s obviously a reason why the gaffer (Mauricio Pochettino) went and I think that was the moment that I think it became clear to the players what the ambition of the club was going to be.” Unnecessary comment, designed to muddy the waters. Shame on you Rickie. I think it is well documented that the board offered MP and his staff, a very good contract to stay on, to complete the job. It is also very well documented that MP stated that he couldn't see a future at the club, post Cortese, before the board had even been stabilised. MP painted himself into a corner, with that comment, and from the rumours circulating since the many departures, it is becoming clear that not only did he have no intention of staying, but that several players KNEW he was leaving well before he actually did leave. And well before he notified his employers of his intentions. Many supporters, from watching the players awards, could see Liellana was off, and this was before MP had announced his departure. I've see a credible comment, reference MP offering to take JRod to his next new club, as long ago as March. Even Lovren knew MP was leaving, before MP resigned. This whole departure and blame it on the board's lack of ambition scenario, IMO, has been a very clever, and very well choreographed exercise, by MP and the pro Cortese "rebels". The only reason why, IMO, they are trotting out the lack of ambition story, is because the board did not cave in and release them immediately, and for lesser fees. The board made them sweat and put their "dream" moves in doubt, so they squinnied like children. That Rickie has decided to make this comment, even though he was allowed to go so speedily and for a relatively low amount, is disrespectful, not just to the board, but to the fans, who deserve to be allowed to move on, without ex players dropping little "innuendo time bombs" into interviews. If they really want to criticise the board's lack of ambition, then maybe they should put some meat on the bones and explain their cryptic comments.
Cr@p, if only I had read this first I'd have just said spot on instead of posting a watered down version.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: Lambert added: “There’s obviously a reason why the gaffer (Mauricio Pochettino) went and I think that was the moment that I think it became clear to the players what the ambition of the club was going to be.” Unnecessary comment, designed to muddy the waters. Shame on you Rickie. I think it is well documented that the board offered MP and his staff, a very good contract to stay on, to complete the job. It is also very well documented that MP stated that he couldn't see a future at the club, post Cortese, before the board had even been stabilised. MP painted himself into a corner, with that comment, and from the rumours circulating since the many departures, it is becoming clear that not only did he have no intention of staying, but that several players KNEW he was leaving well before he actually did leave. And well before he notified his employers of his intentions. Many supporters, from watching the players awards, could see Liellana was off, and this was before MP had announced his departure. I've see a credible comment, reference MP offering to take JRod to his next new club, as long ago as March. Even Lovren knew MP was leaving, before MP resigned. This whole departure and blame it on the board's lack of ambition scenario, IMO, has been a very clever, and very well choreographed exercise, by MP and the pro Cortese "rebels". The only reason why, IMO, they are trotting out the lack of ambition story, is because the board did not cave in and release them immediately, and for lesser fees. The board made them sweat and put their "dream" moves in doubt, so they squinnied like children. That Rickie has decided to make this comment, even though he was allowed to go so speedily and for a relatively low amount, is disrespectful, not just to the board, but to the fans, who deserve to be allowed to move on, without ex players dropping little "innuendo time bombs" into interviews. If they really want to criticise the board's lack of ambition, then maybe they should put some meat on the bones and explain their cryptic comments.[/p][/quote]Cr@p, if only I had read this first I'd have just said spot on instead of posting a watered down version. bstokesaint
  • Score: 2

1:26pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Costa Baz says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
Bernadette M. Nicholas wrote:
my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out
http://x.co/5Hkqe
How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else!

Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.
It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.
I did and they didn't.
Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't.
This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman...
Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us.
If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.
whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??
It's a little poke at the same people who keep blaming the press for everything T.
The press get blamed, Steve Gerrard got blamed, Roy Hodgson the list is endless.
Today I read that Pochettino was tapped up by .... wait for it.... Osvaldo Ardilles.

Yet an ex-employee, who would probably know what went on, suggested where the blame lies and its viewed as blasphemy.
Yes an ex employee has "suggested", where the blame lies, but yet again, like all the others he doesn't have the balls to back up his suggestion with actual evidence.

Nor does he have the balls to put forward his reasons why he, and the others, thought the board's ambition wasn't in keeping with that of the players. Maybe that is because the players aren't sure the fans would take their side, if they put it out there?

I think the reference, in comments put out by the board, to some players wishing to take short cuts, to European football, is key.
But didn't they all come out publicly when Cortese left,and say they didn't want MoPo to leave.Not trying to score points here by the way,but I seem to remember that happening?
Yes they did say that, and the board made him and his staff a very good offer, to stay.
I think it was Seedhouse, through his conversations with Jesus Perez, who said they were actually split on taking the offer, so it couldn't have been that shabby an offer.

All I would like is for those claiming lack of ambition, by the board, as a reason for leaving the club, to put there reasons for saying this, into the public forum, so we can make our own decisions.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bernadette M. Nicholas[/bold] wrote: my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out http://x.co/5Hkqe[/p][/quote]How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else! Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.[/p][/quote]It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.[/p][/quote]I did and they didn't.[/p][/quote]Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't. This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman... Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us. If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.[/p][/quote]whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??[/p][/quote]It's a little poke at the same people who keep blaming the press for everything T. The press get blamed, Steve Gerrard got blamed, Roy Hodgson the list is endless. Today I read that Pochettino was tapped up by .... wait for it.... Osvaldo Ardilles. Yet an ex-employee, who would probably know what went on, suggested where the blame lies and its viewed as blasphemy.[/p][/quote]Yes an ex employee has "suggested", where the blame lies, but yet again, like all the others he doesn't have the balls to back up his suggestion with actual evidence. Nor does he have the balls to put forward his reasons why he, and the others, thought the board's ambition wasn't in keeping with that of the players. Maybe that is because the players aren't sure the fans would take their side, if they put it out there? I think the reference, in comments put out by the board, to some players wishing to take short cuts, to European football, is key.[/p][/quote]But didn't they all come out publicly when Cortese left,and say they didn't want MoPo to leave.Not trying to score points here by the way,but I seem to remember that happening?[/p][/quote]Yes they did say that, and the board made him and his staff a very good offer, to stay. I think it was Seedhouse, through his conversations with Jesus Perez, who said they were actually split on taking the offer, so it couldn't have been that shabby an offer. All I would like is for those claiming lack of ambition, by the board, as a reason for leaving the club, to put there reasons for saying this, into the public forum, so we can make our own decisions. Costa Baz
  • Score: 3

1:46pm Tue 19 Aug 14

North Wales Saint says...

ToastyTea wrote:
Was anybody at the game Sunday, what did he do at the end of the game ? (come over and clap Saints fans ?) and what about Lovren ? (guess he just walked off)
Yes Rickie came over to clap the Saints fans as you knew he would.You would hardly expect Lovren to after the abuse he received throughout the game! I think Rickie is quite naive and a bit of an innocent when it comes to giving interviews. There is an art to it and he has not had the years of practice at high profile interviews that many players have had - I don't remember too many from his Rochdale or Macclesfield days!! I think too he is basically quite a shy person - he does get a bit tongue-tied at times and uses techniques such as repetition to give himself time to think. His body language (such as face stroking) betrays the fact that he is not comfortable in these situations. At the end of the day he is a footballer and not someone like Tony Blair who can come out of the most hostile interview smelling of roses.
[quote][p][bold]ToastyTea[/bold] wrote: Was anybody at the game Sunday, what did he do at the end of the game ? (come over and clap Saints fans ?) and what about Lovren ? (guess he just walked off)[/p][/quote]Yes Rickie came over to clap the Saints fans as you knew he would.You would hardly expect Lovren to after the abuse he received throughout the game! I think Rickie is quite naive and a bit of an innocent when it comes to giving interviews. There is an art to it and he has not had the years of practice at high profile interviews that many players have had - I don't remember too many from his Rochdale or Macclesfield days!! I think too he is basically quite a shy person - he does get a bit tongue-tied at times and uses techniques such as repetition to give himself time to think. His body language (such as face stroking) betrays the fact that he is not comfortable in these situations. At the end of the day he is a footballer and not someone like Tony Blair who can come out of the most hostile interview smelling of roses. North Wales Saint
  • Score: 2

1:48pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Costa Baz wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
Bernadette M. Nicholas wrote:
my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out
http://x.co/5Hkqe
How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else!

Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.
It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.
I did and they didn't.
Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't.
This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman...
Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us.
If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.
whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??
It's a little poke at the same people who keep blaming the press for everything T.
The press get blamed, Steve Gerrard got blamed, Roy Hodgson the list is endless.
Today I read that Pochettino was tapped up by .... wait for it.... Osvaldo Ardilles.

Yet an ex-employee, who would probably know what went on, suggested where the blame lies and its viewed as blasphemy.
Yes an ex employee has "suggested", where the blame lies, but yet again, like all the others he doesn't have the balls to back up his suggestion with actual evidence.

Nor does he have the balls to put forward his reasons why he, and the others, thought the board's ambition wasn't in keeping with that of the players. Maybe that is because the players aren't sure the fans would take their side, if they put it out there?

I think the reference, in comments put out by the board, to some players wishing to take short cuts, to European football, is key.
But didn't they all come out publicly when Cortese left,and say they didn't want MoPo to leave.Not trying to score points here by the way,but I seem to remember that happening?
Yes they did say that, and the board made him and his staff a very good offer, to stay.
I think it was Seedhouse, through his conversations with Jesus Perez, who said they were actually split on taking the offer, so it couldn't have been that shabby an offer.

All I would like is for those claiming lack of ambition, by the board, as a reason for leaving the club, to put there reasons for saying this, into the public forum, so we can make our own decisions.
But why would they have stated publicly that they wanted him to stay,if they (supposedly)already knew he was going to leave?
Coming out,and saying they wanted him to stay,suggests to me that they were prepared to stay under his leadership,and continue the dream that ML & NC had envisaged for the club,and that maybe not all off them were money grabbing mercenaries.
If they felt afterwards that they had then been sold down the river,by a board who didn't wish to pursue that dream any longer(for whatever reason),it would be perfectly reasonable for some of them to have then decided to ply their trade elsewhere, without being judged disloyal.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bernadette M. Nicholas[/bold] wrote: my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out http://x.co/5Hkqe[/p][/quote]How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else! Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.[/p][/quote]It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.[/p][/quote]I did and they didn't.[/p][/quote]Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't. This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman... Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us. If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.[/p][/quote]whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??[/p][/quote]It's a little poke at the same people who keep blaming the press for everything T. The press get blamed, Steve Gerrard got blamed, Roy Hodgson the list is endless. Today I read that Pochettino was tapped up by .... wait for it.... Osvaldo Ardilles. Yet an ex-employee, who would probably know what went on, suggested where the blame lies and its viewed as blasphemy.[/p][/quote]Yes an ex employee has "suggested", where the blame lies, but yet again, like all the others he doesn't have the balls to back up his suggestion with actual evidence. Nor does he have the balls to put forward his reasons why he, and the others, thought the board's ambition wasn't in keeping with that of the players. Maybe that is because the players aren't sure the fans would take their side, if they put it out there? I think the reference, in comments put out by the board, to some players wishing to take short cuts, to European football, is key.[/p][/quote]But didn't they all come out publicly when Cortese left,and say they didn't want MoPo to leave.Not trying to score points here by the way,but I seem to remember that happening?[/p][/quote]Yes they did say that, and the board made him and his staff a very good offer, to stay. I think it was Seedhouse, through his conversations with Jesus Perez, who said they were actually split on taking the offer, so it couldn't have been that shabby an offer. All I would like is for those claiming lack of ambition, by the board, as a reason for leaving the club, to put there reasons for saying this, into the public forum, so we can make our own decisions.[/p][/quote]But why would they have stated publicly that they wanted him to stay,if they (supposedly)already knew he was going to leave? Coming out,and saying they wanted him to stay,suggests to me that they were prepared to stay under his leadership,and continue the dream that ML & NC had envisaged for the club,and that maybe not all off them were money grabbing mercenaries. If they felt afterwards that they had then been sold down the river,by a board who didn't wish to pursue that dream any longer(for whatever reason),it would be perfectly reasonable for some of them to have then decided to ply their trade elsewhere, without being judged disloyal. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: -4

1:49pm Tue 19 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Quite Frankly wrote:
milton road wrote:
If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but Thank you
The Gallery is a regular feature, where people contribute their ideas about a football story.

As a Guardian-reading season ticket holder at Saints, I'm not suprised that 'we' have featured in The Gallery, given events at the club since the end of last season.

If you cannot enjoy it for a bit of gallows humour, that's up to you - but don't show yourself up by whining about a satirical column in a newspaper which generally is quite favourable in how it reports Saints.
And it was, quite frankly, funny.

Who do I write to to inform them I would like to see some more humour no matter how sarcastic and caustic it is. I chose not to be offended some delicates who clearly want life sugar coated for their mental wellbeing have made the choice to be offended or even, disgusted.
Me - I'm sipping myself. Remember Koeman presented the photo of the training ground with only himself present - I suspect he has a sharp sense of humour and did not let the opportunity for a little self deprecation and dark humour slip by him. Always look on the bright side of life said someone with nail holes in his hands and feet.
[quote][p][bold]Quite Frankly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but Thank you[/p][/quote]The Gallery is a regular feature, where people contribute their ideas about a football story. As a Guardian-reading season ticket holder at Saints, I'm not suprised that 'we' have featured in The Gallery, given events at the club since the end of last season. If you cannot enjoy it for a bit of gallows humour, that's up to you - but don't show yourself up by whining about a satirical column in a newspaper which generally is quite favourable in how it reports Saints.[/p][/quote]And it was, quite frankly, funny. Who do I write to to inform them I would like to see some more humour no matter how sarcastic and caustic it is. I chose not to be offended some delicates who clearly want life sugar coated for their mental wellbeing have made the choice to be offended or even, disgusted. Me - I'm sipping myself. Remember Koeman presented the photo of the training ground with only himself present - I suspect he has a sharp sense of humour and did not let the opportunity for a little self deprecation and dark humour slip by him. Always look on the bright side of life said someone with nail holes in his hands and feet. jls217
  • Score: 2

1:51pm Tue 19 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

jls217 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Whether we could have gone higher and kept some of the players is now a mute pint.

Personally I think we could have reachedthe promised land and put ourselves on the global map, certainly considering how far we as a club had come and how many times over Marcus's investment had been increased it was worth the punt.

The quation facing the board now is were do they want to be in 5-10 years time, we cannot constantly be raped everytime we progress because the fan base cannot grow if there is not a degree of success involved…

For me there are I think are at least 14 bigger stadiums in the country and we need to increase ours…

This would be an investment outside of FFP and leave a meaningful legacy as players themselves come and go…

The ambition has to be an average plus 42k crowd…those 12.000 extra seats would produce the revenues necessary to pay the wages of 2 more absolute class players …that is the difference of 3 league places on last year..

Whether the board are steadying the ship or were guilty of a lack of ambition is now irrelevant, the future to prevent a repeat is highly relevant..we need the increased stadium to partially fulfill our potential..
I like mute pints!
Mmmm. I see both Rodgers and Wenger have said we could have been Champions League if we'd pushed on. That's all very well, but you are right, under financial fair play that is at best a massive, dangerous punt and at worst near impossible in the current circumstances.

Adding 12,000 seats is also very easy to say off-hand, but there is a probably a reason why the south coast doesn't have a stadium that large and it is called supply and demand.

You can't just magic up 12,000 extra regular fans unless you totally revamp the pricing plan to make football maybe half the price because the local wages aren't high enough to attract bumper sell outs in the current financial climate.

Last season was all the evidence needed that even if the team is highly successful and playing great football, it is hard to pack the place out week in week out because, on the south coast, there is more competition from other sports and activities than you'd get in Newcastle or the north and less disposable cash or international fans than you'd have in central London.

Any Saints board needs to at least consider a risk assessment of what might happen if we ever got relegated, regardless of whether our goal is 100% fixed on qualifying for Europe and pushing on.

So, while you can dream about the extra players we could buy with 12,000 extra seat sales others could say how many players we'd have to sell in order to fund 12,000 empty seats in the event of a mishap.

It's not exciting or nice to have to think about, but I guess when you are running a multi-million pound business you can't afford to blindly follow a dream, unless you're name is Peter Storey or Pete Risdale, in which case just shut your eyes and carry on zooming down the fast lane regardless of whether you're on the right side of the carriage way.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Whether we could have gone higher and kept some of the players is now a mute pint. Personally I think we could have reachedthe promised land and put ourselves on the global map, certainly considering how far we as a club had come and how many times over Marcus's investment had been increased it was worth the punt. The quation facing the board now is were do they want to be in 5-10 years time, we cannot constantly be raped everytime we progress because the fan base cannot grow if there is not a degree of success involved… For me there are I think are at least 14 bigger stadiums in the country and we need to increase ours… This would be an investment outside of FFP and leave a meaningful legacy as players themselves come and go… The ambition has to be an average plus 42k crowd…those 12.000 extra seats would produce the revenues necessary to pay the wages of 2 more absolute class players …that is the difference of 3 league places on last year.. Whether the board are steadying the ship or were guilty of a lack of ambition is now irrelevant, the future to prevent a repeat is highly relevant..we need the increased stadium to partially fulfill our potential..[/p][/quote]I like mute pints![/p][/quote]Mmmm. I see both Rodgers and Wenger have said we could have been Champions League if we'd pushed on. That's all very well, but you are right, under financial fair play that is at best a massive, dangerous punt and at worst near impossible in the current circumstances. Adding 12,000 seats is also very easy to say off-hand, but there is a probably a reason why the south coast doesn't have a stadium that large and it is called supply and demand. You can't just magic up 12,000 extra regular fans unless you totally revamp the pricing plan to make football maybe half the price because the local wages aren't high enough to attract bumper sell outs in the current financial climate. Last season was all the evidence needed that even if the team is highly successful and playing great football, it is hard to pack the place out week in week out because, on the south coast, there is more competition from other sports and activities than you'd get in Newcastle or the north and less disposable cash or international fans than you'd have in central London. Any Saints board needs to at least consider a risk assessment of what might happen if we ever got relegated, regardless of whether our goal is 100% fixed on qualifying for Europe and pushing on. So, while you can dream about the extra players we could buy with 12,000 extra seat sales others could say how many players we'd have to sell in order to fund 12,000 empty seats in the event of a mishap. It's not exciting or nice to have to think about, but I guess when you are running a multi-million pound business you can't afford to blindly follow a dream, unless you're name is Peter Storey or Pete Risdale, in which case just shut your eyes and carry on zooming down the fast lane regardless of whether you're on the right side of the carriage way. SaintJD
  • Score: 4

1:59pm Tue 19 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Tersites wrote:
Quite Frankly wrote:
milton road wrote:
If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but Thank you
The Gallery is a regular feature, where people contribute their ideas about a football story.

As a Guardian-reading season ticket holder at Saints, I'm not suprised that 'we' have featured in The Gallery, given events at the club since the end of last season.

If you cannot enjoy it for a bit of gallows humour, that's up to you - but don't show yourself up by whining about a satirical column in a newspaper which generally is quite favourable in how it reports Saints.
I think there is only one person "showing themselves up", and that's someone who finds that "acceptable". Ronald Koeman should be respected. I am a season ticket holder and lifelong Southampton supporter, are you?
Yes and it's a f******g football club not a politically correct temperance movement. I'll respect Rambo and take the p in equal measure thank you. And he's been around football long enough not to want it any other way. You must be a bundle of joy to sit next to at a game. It's more than "Acceptable", humour is a pre-requisite.
Still have a giggle from time to time at the singing when Everton went into self-destruct mode last season. When the gorillas started singing "Who needs J Rodrigues when we've got your back four"! Bloody distasteful, disrespectful, offensive and absolutely opportunistic, brilliant wit -we should all hang our heads in shame.
Maybe going to church at the weekends is more apt for your delicate disposition.
Me - I'll go to where the michael is being extracted thank you.
[quote][p][bold]Tersites[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quite Frankly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but Thank you[/p][/quote]The Gallery is a regular feature, where people contribute their ideas about a football story. As a Guardian-reading season ticket holder at Saints, I'm not suprised that 'we' have featured in The Gallery, given events at the club since the end of last season. If you cannot enjoy it for a bit of gallows humour, that's up to you - but don't show yourself up by whining about a satirical column in a newspaper which generally is quite favourable in how it reports Saints.[/p][/quote]I think there is only one person "showing themselves up", and that's someone who finds that "acceptable". Ronald Koeman should be respected. I am a season ticket holder and lifelong Southampton supporter, are you?[/p][/quote]Yes and it's a f******g football club not a politically correct temperance movement. I'll respect Rambo and take the p in equal measure thank you. And he's been around football long enough not to want it any other way. You must be a bundle of joy to sit next to at a game. It's more than "Acceptable", humour is a pre-requisite. Still have a giggle from time to time at the singing when Everton went into self-destruct mode last season. When the gorillas started singing "Who needs J Rodrigues when we've got your back four"! Bloody distasteful, disrespectful, offensive and absolutely opportunistic, brilliant wit -we should all hang our heads in shame. Maybe going to church at the weekends is more apt for your delicate disposition. Me - I'll go to where the michael is being extracted thank you. jls217
  • Score: 2

2:02pm Tue 19 Aug 14

jls217 says...

bstokesaint wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
Lambert added: “There’s obviously a reason why the gaffer (Mauricio Pochettino) went and I think that was the moment that I think it became clear to the players what the ambition of the club was going to be.” Unnecessary comment, designed to muddy the waters. Shame on you Rickie. I think it is well documented that the board offered MP and his staff, a very good contract to stay on, to complete the job. It is also very well documented that MP stated that he couldn't see a future at the club, post Cortese, before the board had even been stabilised. MP painted himself into a corner, with that comment, and from the rumours circulating since the many departures, it is becoming clear that not only did he have no intention of staying, but that several players KNEW he was leaving well before he actually did leave. And well before he notified his employers of his intentions. Many supporters, from watching the players awards, could see Liellana was off, and this was before MP had announced his departure. I've see a credible comment, reference MP offering to take JRod to his next new club, as long ago as March. Even Lovren knew MP was leaving, before MP resigned. This whole departure and blame it on the board's lack of ambition scenario, IMO, has been a very clever, and very well choreographed exercise, by MP and the pro Cortese "rebels". The only reason why, IMO, they are trotting out the lack of ambition story, is because the board did not cave in and release them immediately, and for lesser fees. The board made them sweat and put their "dream" moves in doubt, so they squinnied like children. That Rickie has decided to make this comment, even though he was allowed to go so speedily and for a relatively low amount, is disrespectful, not just to the board, but to the fans, who deserve to be allowed to move on, without ex players dropping little "innuendo time bombs" into interviews. If they really want to criticise the board's lack of ambition, then maybe they should put some meat on the bones and explain their cryptic comments.
Cr@p, if only I had read this first I'd have just said spot on instead of posting a watered down version.
We love you for your faults not in spite of them.
[quote][p][bold]bstokesaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: Lambert added: “There’s obviously a reason why the gaffer (Mauricio Pochettino) went and I think that was the moment that I think it became clear to the players what the ambition of the club was going to be.” Unnecessary comment, designed to muddy the waters. Shame on you Rickie. I think it is well documented that the board offered MP and his staff, a very good contract to stay on, to complete the job. It is also very well documented that MP stated that he couldn't see a future at the club, post Cortese, before the board had even been stabilised. MP painted himself into a corner, with that comment, and from the rumours circulating since the many departures, it is becoming clear that not only did he have no intention of staying, but that several players KNEW he was leaving well before he actually did leave. And well before he notified his employers of his intentions. Many supporters, from watching the players awards, could see Liellana was off, and this was before MP had announced his departure. I've see a credible comment, reference MP offering to take JRod to his next new club, as long ago as March. Even Lovren knew MP was leaving, before MP resigned. This whole departure and blame it on the board's lack of ambition scenario, IMO, has been a very clever, and very well choreographed exercise, by MP and the pro Cortese "rebels". The only reason why, IMO, they are trotting out the lack of ambition story, is because the board did not cave in and release them immediately, and for lesser fees. The board made them sweat and put their "dream" moves in doubt, so they squinnied like children. That Rickie has decided to make this comment, even though he was allowed to go so speedily and for a relatively low amount, is disrespectful, not just to the board, but to the fans, who deserve to be allowed to move on, without ex players dropping little "innuendo time bombs" into interviews. If they really want to criticise the board's lack of ambition, then maybe they should put some meat on the bones and explain their cryptic comments.[/p][/quote]Cr@p, if only I had read this first I'd have just said spot on instead of posting a watered down version.[/p][/quote]We love you for your faults not in spite of them. jls217
  • Score: 1

2:08pm Tue 19 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

SaintJD wrote:
jls217 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Whether we could have gone higher and kept some of the players is now a mute pint.

Personally I think we could have reachedthe promised land and put ourselves on the global map, certainly considering how far we as a club had come and how many times over Marcus's investment had been increased it was worth the punt.

The quation facing the board now is were do they want to be in 5-10 years time, we cannot constantly be raped everytime we progress because the fan base cannot grow if there is not a degree of success involved…

For me there are I think are at least 14 bigger stadiums in the country and we need to increase ours…

This would be an investment outside of FFP and leave a meaningful legacy as players themselves come and go…

The ambition has to be an average plus 42k crowd…those 12.000 extra seats would produce the revenues necessary to pay the wages of 2 more absolute class players …that is the difference of 3 league places on last year..

Whether the board are steadying the ship or were guilty of a lack of ambition is now irrelevant, the future to prevent a repeat is highly relevant..we need the increased stadium to partially fulfill our potential..
I like mute pints!
Mmmm. I see both Rodgers and Wenger have said we could have been Champions League if we'd pushed on. That's all very well, but you are right, under financial fair play that is at best a massive, dangerous punt and at worst near impossible in the current circumstances.

Adding 12,000 seats is also very easy to say off-hand, but there is a probably a reason why the south coast doesn't have a stadium that large and it is called supply and demand.

You can't just magic up 12,000 extra regular fans unless you totally revamp the pricing plan to make football maybe half the price because the local wages aren't high enough to attract bumper sell outs in the current financial climate.

Last season was all the evidence needed that even if the team is highly successful and playing great football, it is hard to pack the place out week in week out because, on the south coast, there is more competition from other sports and activities than you'd get in Newcastle or the north and less disposable cash or international fans than you'd have in central London.

Any Saints board needs to at least consider a risk assessment of what might happen if we ever got relegated, regardless of whether our goal is 100% fixed on qualifying for Europe and pushing on.

So, while you can dream about the extra players we could buy with 12,000 extra seat sales others could say how many players we'd have to sell in order to fund 12,000 empty seats in the event of a mishap.

It's not exciting or nice to have to think about, but I guess when you are running a multi-million pound business you can't afford to blindly follow a dream, unless you're name is Peter Storey or Pete Risdale, in which case just shut your eyes and carry on zooming down the fast lane regardless of whether you're on the right side of the carriage way.
And by the way, the proof for this 'lack of ambition' thing is questionable isn't it?

Great excuse for them to leave obviously, but where is the proof? Judging by facts anyone who said we weren't ambitious is covering their tracks surely?

Negligent or naive perhaps, not great at communicating or handling a stitch up, maybe, but the ambition bit is questionable.

At the end of the day we seem to be investing all the money from player sales back into the squad don't we? Not all spent yet, but we're clearly heading in the direction of spending it all.

So how is that ambition different? I don't think it is. I just think the new board wasn't really prepared for what was coming its way.

We didn't want to lose those players or the manager, but we only grew a pair to fight back and learnt that lesson following the Chambers sale.

In terms of what's hear, judging on last weekend, I think our biggest worry is again holding on to our players, because we still have about five England potential players and more coming through.

I think it's the players and managers who have left who need to question their ambition and self belief because, as Saints have said - they all wanted to take a short cut.

Whether we actually reach our ambitions I don't know, but I do think, judging from the outlay we're spending and the managerial appointment, that we are still aiming high.

And Ron seems convinced anyway - he's said he's here for the long term.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Whether we could have gone higher and kept some of the players is now a mute pint. Personally I think we could have reachedthe promised land and put ourselves on the global map, certainly considering how far we as a club had come and how many times over Marcus's investment had been increased it was worth the punt. The quation facing the board now is were do they want to be in 5-10 years time, we cannot constantly be raped everytime we progress because the fan base cannot grow if there is not a degree of success involved… For me there are I think are at least 14 bigger stadiums in the country and we need to increase ours… This would be an investment outside of FFP and leave a meaningful legacy as players themselves come and go… The ambition has to be an average plus 42k crowd…those 12.000 extra seats would produce the revenues necessary to pay the wages of 2 more absolute class players …that is the difference of 3 league places on last year.. Whether the board are steadying the ship or were guilty of a lack of ambition is now irrelevant, the future to prevent a repeat is highly relevant..we need the increased stadium to partially fulfill our potential..[/p][/quote]I like mute pints![/p][/quote]Mmmm. I see both Rodgers and Wenger have said we could have been Champions League if we'd pushed on. That's all very well, but you are right, under financial fair play that is at best a massive, dangerous punt and at worst near impossible in the current circumstances. Adding 12,000 seats is also very easy to say off-hand, but there is a probably a reason why the south coast doesn't have a stadium that large and it is called supply and demand. You can't just magic up 12,000 extra regular fans unless you totally revamp the pricing plan to make football maybe half the price because the local wages aren't high enough to attract bumper sell outs in the current financial climate. Last season was all the evidence needed that even if the team is highly successful and playing great football, it is hard to pack the place out week in week out because, on the south coast, there is more competition from other sports and activities than you'd get in Newcastle or the north and less disposable cash or international fans than you'd have in central London. Any Saints board needs to at least consider a risk assessment of what might happen if we ever got relegated, regardless of whether our goal is 100% fixed on qualifying for Europe and pushing on. So, while you can dream about the extra players we could buy with 12,000 extra seat sales others could say how many players we'd have to sell in order to fund 12,000 empty seats in the event of a mishap. It's not exciting or nice to have to think about, but I guess when you are running a multi-million pound business you can't afford to blindly follow a dream, unless you're name is Peter Storey or Pete Risdale, in which case just shut your eyes and carry on zooming down the fast lane regardless of whether you're on the right side of the carriage way.[/p][/quote]And by the way, the proof for this 'lack of ambition' thing is questionable isn't it? Great excuse for them to leave obviously, but where is the proof? Judging by facts anyone who said we weren't ambitious is covering their tracks surely? Negligent or naive perhaps, not great at communicating or handling a stitch up, maybe, but the ambition bit is questionable. At the end of the day we seem to be investing all the money from player sales back into the squad don't we? Not all spent yet, but we're clearly heading in the direction of spending it all. So how is that ambition different? I don't think it is. I just think the new board wasn't really prepared for what was coming its way. We didn't want to lose those players or the manager, but we only grew a pair to fight back and learnt that lesson following the Chambers sale. In terms of what's hear, judging on last weekend, I think our biggest worry is again holding on to our players, because we still have about five England potential players and more coming through. I think it's the players and managers who have left who need to question their ambition and self belief because, as Saints have said - they all wanted to take a short cut. Whether we actually reach our ambitions I don't know, but I do think, judging from the outlay we're spending and the managerial appointment, that we are still aiming high. And Ron seems convinced anyway - he's said he's here for the long term. SaintJD
  • Score: 1

2:13pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Dave Juson says...

jls217 wrote:
Tersites wrote:
Quite Frankly wrote:
milton road wrote:
If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but Thank you
The Gallery is a regular feature, where people contribute their ideas about a football story.

As a Guardian-reading season ticket holder at Saints, I'm not suprised that 'we' have featured in The Gallery, given events at the club since the end of last season.

If you cannot enjoy it for a bit of gallows humour, that's up to you - but don't show yourself up by whining about a satirical column in a newspaper which generally is quite favourable in how it reports Saints.
I think there is only one person "showing themselves up", and that's someone who finds that "acceptable". Ronald Koeman should be respected. I am a season ticket holder and lifelong Southampton supporter, are you?
Yes and it's a f******g football club not a politically correct temperance movement. I'll respect Rambo and take the p in equal measure thank you. And he's been around football long enough not to want it any other way. You must be a bundle of joy to sit next to at a game. It's more than "Acceptable", humour is a pre-requisite.
Still have a giggle from time to time at the singing when Everton went into self-destruct mode last season. When the gorillas started singing "Who needs J Rodrigues when we've got your back four"! Bloody distasteful, disrespectful, offensive and absolutely opportunistic, brilliant wit -we should all hang our heads in shame.
Maybe going to church at the weekends is more apt for your delicate disposition.
Me - I'll go to where the michael is being extracted thank you.
Yes, a rather think that those complaining about the "fan satire" on the Guardian website are being a tad precious. You need a sense of humour to support a football club, especially the Saints.
I would advise anyone who goes to football matches to have the joy sucked out of their life to sign up with Manchester United.
I especially liked the picture of Ronald Koeman playing Subbuteo.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tersites[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quite Frankly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but Thank you[/p][/quote]The Gallery is a regular feature, where people contribute their ideas about a football story. As a Guardian-reading season ticket holder at Saints, I'm not suprised that 'we' have featured in The Gallery, given events at the club since the end of last season. If you cannot enjoy it for a bit of gallows humour, that's up to you - but don't show yourself up by whining about a satirical column in a newspaper which generally is quite favourable in how it reports Saints.[/p][/quote]I think there is only one person "showing themselves up", and that's someone who finds that "acceptable". Ronald Koeman should be respected. I am a season ticket holder and lifelong Southampton supporter, are you?[/p][/quote]Yes and it's a f******g football club not a politically correct temperance movement. I'll respect Rambo and take the p in equal measure thank you. And he's been around football long enough not to want it any other way. You must be a bundle of joy to sit next to at a game. It's more than "Acceptable", humour is a pre-requisite. Still have a giggle from time to time at the singing when Everton went into self-destruct mode last season. When the gorillas started singing "Who needs J Rodrigues when we've got your back four"! Bloody distasteful, disrespectful, offensive and absolutely opportunistic, brilliant wit -we should all hang our heads in shame. Maybe going to church at the weekends is more apt for your delicate disposition. Me - I'll go to where the michael is being extracted thank you.[/p][/quote]Yes, a rather think that those complaining about the "fan satire" on the Guardian website are being a tad precious. You need a sense of humour to support a football club, especially the Saints. I would advise anyone who goes to football matches to have the joy sucked out of their life to sign up with Manchester United. I especially liked the picture of Ronald Koeman playing Subbuteo. Dave Juson
  • Score: 5

2:14pm Tue 19 Aug 14

jls217 says...

saint christopher wrote:
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Don't know if this has been quoted before but a helpful article giving a more positive spin on the recent changes - shame national paper has to report this rather than DE.
A good article and happy to see Reed at last telling us his thought processes. He may have diverted a lot of the flak if he'd been as open as this earlier. So not really feeling sorry for Les he could've deflected a lot of carp but his silences prompted distrust in certain circles and did nothing to allay the fears.
[quote][p][bold]saint christopher[/bold] wrote: http://www.independe nt.co.uk/sport/footb all/premier-league/h ow-southamptons-summ er-transfer-window-t urned-into-an-unexpe cted-revolution-9673 919.html Don't know if this has been quoted before but a helpful article giving a more positive spin on the recent changes - shame national paper has to report this rather than DE.[/p][/quote]A good article and happy to see Reed at last telling us his thought processes. He may have diverted a lot of the flak if he'd been as open as this earlier. So not really feeling sorry for Les he could've deflected a lot of carp but his silences prompted distrust in certain circles and did nothing to allay the fears. jls217
  • Score: 2

2:25pm Tue 19 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
Bernadette M. Nicholas wrote:
my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out
http://x.co/5Hkqe
How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else!

Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.
It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.
I did and they didn't.
Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't.
This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman...
Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us.
If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.
whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??
It's a little poke at the same people who keep blaming the press for everything T.
The press get blamed, Steve Gerrard got blamed, Roy Hodgson the list is endless.
Today I read that Pochettino was tapped up by .... wait for it.... Osvaldo Ardilles.

Yet an ex-employee, who would probably know what went on, suggested where the blame lies and its viewed as blasphemy.
Yes an ex employee has "suggested", where the blame lies, but yet again, like all the others he doesn't have the balls to back up his suggestion with actual evidence.

Nor does he have the balls to put forward his reasons why he, and the others, thought the board's ambition wasn't in keeping with that of the players. Maybe that is because the players aren't sure the fans would take their side, if they put it out there?

I think the reference, in comments put out by the board, to some players wishing to take short cuts, to European football, is key.
But didn't they all come out publicly when Cortese left,and say they didn't want MoPo to leave.Not trying to score points here by the way,but I seem to remember that happening?
I too remember everyone no matter how distantly linked to the club saying the same thing. If we'd known what the two tongued **** was saying in other circles it might have been us wanting him out.
Not really seeing your point - maybe I'm a little dim.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bernadette M. Nicholas[/bold] wrote: my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out http://x.co/5Hkqe[/p][/quote]How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else! Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.[/p][/quote]It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.[/p][/quote]I did and they didn't.[/p][/quote]Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't. This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman... Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us. If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.[/p][/quote]whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??[/p][/quote]It's a little poke at the same people who keep blaming the press for everything T. The press get blamed, Steve Gerrard got blamed, Roy Hodgson the list is endless. Today I read that Pochettino was tapped up by .... wait for it.... Osvaldo Ardilles. Yet an ex-employee, who would probably know what went on, suggested where the blame lies and its viewed as blasphemy.[/p][/quote]Yes an ex employee has "suggested", where the blame lies, but yet again, like all the others he doesn't have the balls to back up his suggestion with actual evidence. Nor does he have the balls to put forward his reasons why he, and the others, thought the board's ambition wasn't in keeping with that of the players. Maybe that is because the players aren't sure the fans would take their side, if they put it out there? I think the reference, in comments put out by the board, to some players wishing to take short cuts, to European football, is key.[/p][/quote]But didn't they all come out publicly when Cortese left,and say they didn't want MoPo to leave.Not trying to score points here by the way,but I seem to remember that happening?[/p][/quote]I too remember everyone no matter how distantly linked to the club saying the same thing. If we'd known what the two tongued **** was saying in other circles it might have been us wanting him out. Not really seeing your point - maybe I'm a little dim. jls217
  • Score: 0

2:27pm Tue 19 Aug 14

warrens 76 says...

SaintJD wrote:
jls217 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Whether we could have gone higher and kept some of the players is now a mute pint.

Personally I think we could have reachedthe promised land and put ourselves on the global map, certainly considering how far we as a club had come and how many times over Marcus's investment had been increased it was worth the punt.

The quation facing the board now is were do they want to be in 5-10 years time, we cannot constantly be raped everytime we progress because the fan base cannot grow if there is not a degree of success involved…

For me there are I think are at least 14 bigger stadiums in the country and we need to increase ours…

This would be an investment outside of FFP and leave a meaningful legacy as players themselves come and go…

The ambition has to be an average plus 42k crowd…those 12.000 extra seats would produce the revenues necessary to pay the wages of 2 more absolute class players …that is the difference of 3 league places on last year..

Whether the board are steadying the ship or were guilty of a lack of ambition is now irrelevant, the future to prevent a repeat is highly relevant..we need the increased stadium to partially fulfill our potential..
I like mute pints!
Mmmm. I see both Rodgers and Wenger have said we could have been Champions League if we'd pushed on. That's all very well, but you are right, under financial fair play that is at best a massive, dangerous punt and at worst near impossible in the current circumstances.

Adding 12,000 seats is also very easy to say off-hand, but there is a probably a reason why the south coast doesn't have a stadium that large and it is called supply and demand.

You can't just magic up 12,000 extra regular fans unless you totally revamp the pricing plan to make football maybe half the price because the local wages aren't high enough to attract bumper sell outs in the current financial climate.

Last season was all the evidence needed that even if the team is highly successful and playing great football, it is hard to pack the place out week in week out because, on the south coast, there is more competition from other sports and activities than you'd get in Newcastle or the north and less disposable cash or international fans than you'd have in central London.

Any Saints board needs to at least consider a risk assessment of what might happen if we ever got relegated, regardless of whether our goal is 100% fixed on qualifying for Europe and pushing on.

So, while you can dream about the extra players we could buy with 12,000 extra seat sales others could say how many players we'd have to sell in order to fund 12,000 empty seats in the event of a mishap.

It's not exciting or nice to have to think about, but I guess when you are running a multi-million pound business you can't afford to blindly follow a dream, unless you're name is Peter Storey or Pete Risdale, in which case just shut your eyes and carry on zooming down the fast lane regardless of whether you're on the right side of the carriage way.
For 10 years BHA were without a stadium of their own, their average gates 7000.....now 24.000 and rising next season they increase to 35.000.
SFC has thought small since before the war and many are still content to do so, had we built the ground in the 60's we would not have suffered years of 15.000 gates....

..had we built St Mary's to 44.000 as could have been done we would have sell outs on a third of games, slight increase on another 3rd and given freebies to kids to fill the ground on others...sometimes the lack of vision from our own fans is lamentable.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Whether we could have gone higher and kept some of the players is now a mute pint. Personally I think we could have reachedthe promised land and put ourselves on the global map, certainly considering how far we as a club had come and how many times over Marcus's investment had been increased it was worth the punt. The quation facing the board now is were do they want to be in 5-10 years time, we cannot constantly be raped everytime we progress because the fan base cannot grow if there is not a degree of success involved… For me there are I think are at least 14 bigger stadiums in the country and we need to increase ours… This would be an investment outside of FFP and leave a meaningful legacy as players themselves come and go… The ambition has to be an average plus 42k crowd…those 12.000 extra seats would produce the revenues necessary to pay the wages of 2 more absolute class players …that is the difference of 3 league places on last year.. Whether the board are steadying the ship or were guilty of a lack of ambition is now irrelevant, the future to prevent a repeat is highly relevant..we need the increased stadium to partially fulfill our potential..[/p][/quote]I like mute pints![/p][/quote]Mmmm. I see both Rodgers and Wenger have said we could have been Champions League if we'd pushed on. That's all very well, but you are right, under financial fair play that is at best a massive, dangerous punt and at worst near impossible in the current circumstances. Adding 12,000 seats is also very easy to say off-hand, but there is a probably a reason why the south coast doesn't have a stadium that large and it is called supply and demand. You can't just magic up 12,000 extra regular fans unless you totally revamp the pricing plan to make football maybe half the price because the local wages aren't high enough to attract bumper sell outs in the current financial climate. Last season was all the evidence needed that even if the team is highly successful and playing great football, it is hard to pack the place out week in week out because, on the south coast, there is more competition from other sports and activities than you'd get in Newcastle or the north and less disposable cash or international fans than you'd have in central London. Any Saints board needs to at least consider a risk assessment of what might happen if we ever got relegated, regardless of whether our goal is 100% fixed on qualifying for Europe and pushing on. So, while you can dream about the extra players we could buy with 12,000 extra seat sales others could say how many players we'd have to sell in order to fund 12,000 empty seats in the event of a mishap. It's not exciting or nice to have to think about, but I guess when you are running a multi-million pound business you can't afford to blindly follow a dream, unless you're name is Peter Storey or Pete Risdale, in which case just shut your eyes and carry on zooming down the fast lane regardless of whether you're on the right side of the carriage way.[/p][/quote]For 10 years BHA were without a stadium of their own, their average gates 7000.....now 24.000 and rising next season they increase to 35.000. SFC has thought small since before the war and many are still content to do so, had we built the ground in the 60's we would not have suffered years of 15.000 gates.... ..had we built St Mary's to 44.000 as could have been done we would have sell outs on a third of games, slight increase on another 3rd and given freebies to kids to fill the ground on others...sometimes the lack of vision from our own fans is lamentable. warrens 76
  • Score: 0

2:32pm Tue 19 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Tersites wrote:
Dear Sir / Madam,

I am writing to register my absolute and utter DISGUST at the "Ronald Koeman" cartoons on your website: http://www.theguardi

an.com/football/gall

ery/2014/aug/19/rona

ld-koeman-the-galler

y-southampton#/?pict

ure=444806438&in
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7

This so called "humour" is an abomination! The pictures are highly insulting (linking Koeman to a cow!_) and I would suspect slanderous (calling Koeman a liar etc). No one allows racist or sexism, or anti-religious slander, so why, I'd sincerely like to know do you find publishing this sort of absolute venom against one man acceptable on your webpages? I would expect that there is possibly a case for legal action.

I've always been a reader and a fan of the Guardian newspaper, and am stunned and surprised that you would allow this to be published?

I look forward to the immediate removal of this page, and an expedient reply on how you can possibly justify this as 'humour' and allow this page to be published?

Regards,

Tommy.
Get over yourself - there are people being murdered for their religious beliefs on a mountainside in Iraq - NOW THAT SIR IS AN ABOMINATION. Also worthy of your absolute and utter DISGUST.

This is a football sipptake which should be taken with a pinch of salt and enjoyed - if you are capable of enjoyment that is. They don't have to justify anything to you. If you don't like it don't buy the paper or click off that page. Try to deny me a good sipptake and I may be tempted to make you the subect of my absolute and utter DISGUST and see what I can do to censor you out of the proceedings.
Yours slightly peeved.......... and still giggling.
[quote][p][bold]Tersites[/bold] wrote: Dear Sir / Madam, I am writing to register my absolute and utter DISGUST at the "Ronald Koeman" cartoons on your website: http://www.theguardi an.com/football/gall ery/2014/aug/19/rona ld-koeman-the-galler y-southampton#/?pict ure=444806438&in dex= 7 This so called "humour" is an abomination! The pictures are highly insulting (linking Koeman to a cow!_) and I would suspect slanderous (calling Koeman a liar etc). No one allows racist or sexism, or anti-religious slander, so why, I'd sincerely like to know do you find publishing this sort of absolute venom against one man acceptable on your webpages? I would expect that there is possibly a case for legal action. I've always been a reader and a fan of the Guardian newspaper, and am stunned and surprised that you would allow this to be published? I look forward to the immediate removal of this page, and an expedient reply on how you can possibly justify this as 'humour' and allow this page to be published? Regards, Tommy.[/p][/quote]Get over yourself - there are people being murdered for their religious beliefs on a mountainside in Iraq - NOW THAT SIR IS AN ABOMINATION. Also worthy of your absolute and utter DISGUST. This is a football sipptake which should be taken with a pinch of salt and enjoyed - if you are capable of enjoyment that is. They don't have to justify anything to you. If you don't like it don't buy the paper or click off that page. Try to deny me a good sipptake and I may be tempted to make you the subect of my absolute and utter DISGUST and see what I can do to censor you out of the proceedings. Yours slightly peeved.......... and still giggling. jls217
  • Score: 4

2:35pm Tue 19 Aug 14

bluewhiteandred says...

SaintJD wrote:
jls217 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Whether we could have gone higher and kept some of the players is now a mute pint.

Personally I think we could have reachedthe promised land and put ourselves on the global map, certainly considering how far we as a club had come and how many times over Marcus's investment had been increased it was worth the punt.

The quation facing the board now is were do they want to be in 5-10 years time, we cannot constantly be raped everytime we progress because the fan base cannot grow if there is not a degree of success involved…

For me there are I think are at least 14 bigger stadiums in the country and we need to increase ours…

This would be an investment outside of FFP and leave a meaningful legacy as players themselves come and go…

The ambition has to be an average plus 42k crowd…those 12.000 extra seats would produce the revenues necessary to pay the wages of 2 more absolute class players …that is the difference of 3 league places on last year..

Whether the board are steadying the ship or were guilty of a lack of ambition is now irrelevant, the future to prevent a repeat is highly relevant..we need the increased stadium to partially fulfill our potential..
I like mute pints!
Mmmm. I see both Rodgers and Wenger have said we could have been Champions League if we'd pushed on. That's all very well, but you are right, under financial fair play that is at best a massive, dangerous punt and at worst near impossible in the current circumstances.

Adding 12,000 seats is also very easy to say off-hand, but there is a probably a reason why the south coast doesn't have a stadium that large and it is called supply and demand.

You can't just magic up 12,000 extra regular fans unless you totally revamp the pricing plan to make football maybe half the price because the local wages aren't high enough to attract bumper sell outs in the current financial climate.

Last season was all the evidence needed that even if the team is highly successful and playing great football, it is hard to pack the place out week in week out because, on the south coast, there is more competition from other sports and activities than you'd get in Newcastle or the north and less disposable cash or international fans than you'd have in central London.

Any Saints board needs to at least consider a risk assessment of what might happen if we ever got relegated, regardless of whether our goal is 100% fixed on qualifying for Europe and pushing on.

So, while you can dream about the extra players we could buy with 12,000 extra seat sales others could say how many players we'd have to sell in order to fund 12,000 empty seats in the event of a mishap.

It's not exciting or nice to have to think about, but I guess when you are running a multi-million pound business you can't afford to blindly follow a dream, unless you're name is Peter Storey or Pete Risdale, in which case just shut your eyes and carry on zooming down the fast lane regardless of whether you're on the right side of the carriage way.
Peter storey ? different situation so what did the club make on the sale of lambert and co and how much have you spent to improve team ? and you had a price increase in season tickets not to see the stars!
I paid £20 last Saturday and again tonight and last season so saints rich get richer.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Whether we could have gone higher and kept some of the players is now a mute pint. Personally I think we could have reachedthe promised land and put ourselves on the global map, certainly considering how far we as a club had come and how many times over Marcus's investment had been increased it was worth the punt. The quation facing the board now is were do they want to be in 5-10 years time, we cannot constantly be raped everytime we progress because the fan base cannot grow if there is not a degree of success involved… For me there are I think are at least 14 bigger stadiums in the country and we need to increase ours… This would be an investment outside of FFP and leave a meaningful legacy as players themselves come and go… The ambition has to be an average plus 42k crowd…those 12.000 extra seats would produce the revenues necessary to pay the wages of 2 more absolute class players …that is the difference of 3 league places on last year.. Whether the board are steadying the ship or were guilty of a lack of ambition is now irrelevant, the future to prevent a repeat is highly relevant..we need the increased stadium to partially fulfill our potential..[/p][/quote]I like mute pints![/p][/quote]Mmmm. I see both Rodgers and Wenger have said we could have been Champions League if we'd pushed on. That's all very well, but you are right, under financial fair play that is at best a massive, dangerous punt and at worst near impossible in the current circumstances. Adding 12,000 seats is also very easy to say off-hand, but there is a probably a reason why the south coast doesn't have a stadium that large and it is called supply and demand. You can't just magic up 12,000 extra regular fans unless you totally revamp the pricing plan to make football maybe half the price because the local wages aren't high enough to attract bumper sell outs in the current financial climate. Last season was all the evidence needed that even if the team is highly successful and playing great football, it is hard to pack the place out week in week out because, on the south coast, there is more competition from other sports and activities than you'd get in Newcastle or the north and less disposable cash or international fans than you'd have in central London. Any Saints board needs to at least consider a risk assessment of what might happen if we ever got relegated, regardless of whether our goal is 100% fixed on qualifying for Europe and pushing on. So, while you can dream about the extra players we could buy with 12,000 extra seat sales others could say how many players we'd have to sell in order to fund 12,000 empty seats in the event of a mishap. It's not exciting or nice to have to think about, but I guess when you are running a multi-million pound business you can't afford to blindly follow a dream, unless you're name is Peter Storey or Pete Risdale, in which case just shut your eyes and carry on zooming down the fast lane regardless of whether you're on the right side of the carriage way.[/p][/quote]Peter storey ? different situation so what did the club make on the sale of lambert and co and how much have you spent to improve team ? and you had a price increase in season tickets not to see the stars! I paid £20 last Saturday and again tonight and last season so saints rich get richer. bluewhiteandred
  • Score: -2

2:47pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

warrens 76 wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
jls217 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Whether we could have gone higher and kept some of the players is now a mute pint.

Personally I think we could have reachedthe promised land and put ourselves on the global map, certainly considering how far we as a club had come and how many times over Marcus's investment had been increased it was worth the punt.

The quation facing the board now is were do they want to be in 5-10 years time, we cannot constantly be raped everytime we progress because the fan base cannot grow if there is not a degree of success involved…

For me there are I think are at least 14 bigger stadiums in the country and we need to increase ours…

This would be an investment outside of FFP and leave a meaningful legacy as players themselves come and go…

The ambition has to be an average plus 42k crowd…those 12.000 extra seats would produce the revenues necessary to pay the wages of 2 more absolute class players …that is the difference of 3 league places on last year..

Whether the board are steadying the ship or were guilty of a lack of ambition is now irrelevant, the future to prevent a repeat is highly relevant..we need the increased stadium to partially fulfill our potential..
I like mute pints!
Mmmm. I see both Rodgers and Wenger have said we could have been Champions League if we'd pushed on. That's all very well, but you are right, under financial fair play that is at best a massive, dangerous punt and at worst near impossible in the current circumstances.

Adding 12,000 seats is also very easy to say off-hand, but there is a probably a reason why the south coast doesn't have a stadium that large and it is called supply and demand.

You can't just magic up 12,000 extra regular fans unless you totally revamp the pricing plan to make football maybe half the price because the local wages aren't high enough to attract bumper sell outs in the current financial climate.

Last season was all the evidence needed that even if the team is highly successful and playing great football, it is hard to pack the place out week in week out because, on the south coast, there is more competition from other sports and activities than you'd get in Newcastle or the north and less disposable cash or international fans than you'd have in central London.

Any Saints board needs to at least consider a risk assessment of what might happen if we ever got relegated, regardless of whether our goal is 100% fixed on qualifying for Europe and pushing on.

So, while you can dream about the extra players we could buy with 12,000 extra seat sales others could say how many players we'd have to sell in order to fund 12,000 empty seats in the event of a mishap.

It's not exciting or nice to have to think about, but I guess when you are running a multi-million pound business you can't afford to blindly follow a dream, unless you're name is Peter Storey or Pete Risdale, in which case just shut your eyes and carry on zooming down the fast lane regardless of whether you're on the right side of the carriage way.
For 10 years BHA were without a stadium of their own, their average gates 7000.....now 24.000 and rising next season they increase to 35.000.
SFC has thought small since before the war and many are still content to do so, had we built the ground in the 60's we would not have suffered years of 15.000 gates....

..had we built St Mary's to 44.000 as could have been done we would have sell outs on a third of games, slight increase on another 3rd and given freebies to kids to fill the ground on others...sometimes the lack of vision from our own fans is lamentable.
If I've done my sums right, you're saying that a 44,000 seater stadium would give us an average (paying) gate of about 38,000. Plus, based on things you've written before, free seats for kids would help build support for the future. It sounds reasonable (and quite exciting) to me, but I wonder how long it will take for the investment to become economically worthwhile.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Whether we could have gone higher and kept some of the players is now a mute pint. Personally I think we could have reachedthe promised land and put ourselves on the global map, certainly considering how far we as a club had come and how many times over Marcus's investment had been increased it was worth the punt. The quation facing the board now is were do they want to be in 5-10 years time, we cannot constantly be raped everytime we progress because the fan base cannot grow if there is not a degree of success involved… For me there are I think are at least 14 bigger stadiums in the country and we need to increase ours… This would be an investment outside of FFP and leave a meaningful legacy as players themselves come and go… The ambition has to be an average plus 42k crowd…those 12.000 extra seats would produce the revenues necessary to pay the wages of 2 more absolute class players …that is the difference of 3 league places on last year.. Whether the board are steadying the ship or were guilty of a lack of ambition is now irrelevant, the future to prevent a repeat is highly relevant..we need the increased stadium to partially fulfill our potential..[/p][/quote]I like mute pints![/p][/quote]Mmmm. I see both Rodgers and Wenger have said we could have been Champions League if we'd pushed on. That's all very well, but you are right, under financial fair play that is at best a massive, dangerous punt and at worst near impossible in the current circumstances. Adding 12,000 seats is also very easy to say off-hand, but there is a probably a reason why the south coast doesn't have a stadium that large and it is called supply and demand. You can't just magic up 12,000 extra regular fans unless you totally revamp the pricing plan to make football maybe half the price because the local wages aren't high enough to attract bumper sell outs in the current financial climate. Last season was all the evidence needed that even if the team is highly successful and playing great football, it is hard to pack the place out week in week out because, on the south coast, there is more competition from other sports and activities than you'd get in Newcastle or the north and less disposable cash or international fans than you'd have in central London. Any Saints board needs to at least consider a risk assessment of what might happen if we ever got relegated, regardless of whether our goal is 100% fixed on qualifying for Europe and pushing on. So, while you can dream about the extra players we could buy with 12,000 extra seat sales others could say how many players we'd have to sell in order to fund 12,000 empty seats in the event of a mishap. It's not exciting or nice to have to think about, but I guess when you are running a multi-million pound business you can't afford to blindly follow a dream, unless you're name is Peter Storey or Pete Risdale, in which case just shut your eyes and carry on zooming down the fast lane regardless of whether you're on the right side of the carriage way.[/p][/quote]For 10 years BHA were without a stadium of their own, their average gates 7000.....now 24.000 and rising next season they increase to 35.000. SFC has thought small since before the war and many are still content to do so, had we built the ground in the 60's we would not have suffered years of 15.000 gates.... ..had we built St Mary's to 44.000 as could have been done we would have sell outs on a third of games, slight increase on another 3rd and given freebies to kids to fill the ground on others...sometimes the lack of vision from our own fans is lamentable.[/p][/quote]If I've done my sums right, you're saying that a 44,000 seater stadium would give us an average (paying) gate of about 38,000. Plus, based on things you've written before, free seats for kids would help build support for the future. It sounds reasonable (and quite exciting) to me, but I wonder how long it will take for the investment to become economically worthwhile. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

2:52pm Tue 19 Aug 14

TGodSFC says...

jls217 wrote:
Tersites wrote:
Dear Sir / Madam,

I am writing to register my absolute and utter DISGUST at the "Ronald Koeman" cartoons on your website: http://www.theguardi


an.com/football/gall


ery/2014/aug/19/rona


ld-koeman-the-galler


y-southampton#/?pict


ure=444806438&in

dex=
7

This so called "humour" is an abomination! The pictures are highly insulting (linking Koeman to a cow!_) and I would suspect slanderous (calling Koeman a liar etc). No one allows racist or sexism, or anti-religious slander, so why, I'd sincerely like to know do you find publishing this sort of absolute venom against one man acceptable on your webpages? I would expect that there is possibly a case for legal action.

I've always been a reader and a fan of the Guardian newspaper, and am stunned and surprised that you would allow this to be published?

I look forward to the immediate removal of this page, and an expedient reply on how you can possibly justify this as 'humour' and allow this page to be published?

Regards,

Tommy.
Get over yourself - there are people being murdered for their religious beliefs on a mountainside in Iraq - NOW THAT SIR IS AN ABOMINATION. Also worthy of your absolute and utter DISGUST.

This is a football sipptake which should be taken with a pinch of salt and enjoyed - if you are capable of enjoyment that is. They don't have to justify anything to you. If you don't like it don't buy the paper or click off that page. Try to deny me a good sipptake and I may be tempted to make you the subect of my absolute and utter DISGUST and see what I can do to censor you out of the proceedings.
Yours slightly peeved.......... and still giggling.
Don't listen to him Tommy, the words of a man who openly likes JLS. Good on you son! I did the same.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tersites[/bold] wrote: Dear Sir / Madam, I am writing to register my absolute and utter DISGUST at the "Ronald Koeman" cartoons on your website: http://www.theguardi an.com/football/gall ery/2014/aug/19/rona ld-koeman-the-galler y-southampton#/?pict ure=444806438&in dex= 7 This so called "humour" is an abomination! The pictures are highly insulting (linking Koeman to a cow!_) and I would suspect slanderous (calling Koeman a liar etc). No one allows racist or sexism, or anti-religious slander, so why, I'd sincerely like to know do you find publishing this sort of absolute venom against one man acceptable on your webpages? I would expect that there is possibly a case for legal action. I've always been a reader and a fan of the Guardian newspaper, and am stunned and surprised that you would allow this to be published? I look forward to the immediate removal of this page, and an expedient reply on how you can possibly justify this as 'humour' and allow this page to be published? Regards, Tommy.[/p][/quote]Get over yourself - there are people being murdered for their religious beliefs on a mountainside in Iraq - NOW THAT SIR IS AN ABOMINATION. Also worthy of your absolute and utter DISGUST. This is a football sipptake which should be taken with a pinch of salt and enjoyed - if you are capable of enjoyment that is. They don't have to justify anything to you. If you don't like it don't buy the paper or click off that page. Try to deny me a good sipptake and I may be tempted to make you the subect of my absolute and utter DISGUST and see what I can do to censor you out of the proceedings. Yours slightly peeved.......... and still giggling.[/p][/quote]Don't listen to him Tommy, the words of a man who openly likes JLS. Good on you son! I did the same. TGodSFC
  • Score: -1

3:11pm Tue 19 Aug 14

damoose says...

Love to see us bid 5million for Odegaard he looks perfect for us


http://www.101greatg
oals.com/blog/rememb
er-the-name-15-year-
old-martin-odegaard-
called-up-by-norway/
?
Love to see us bid 5million for Odegaard he looks perfect for us http://www.101greatg oals.com/blog/rememb er-the-name-15-year- old-martin-odegaard- called-up-by-norway/ ? damoose
  • Score: 0

3:23pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Benali76 says...

bluewhiteandred wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
jls217 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Whether we could have gone higher and kept some of the players is now a mute pint.

Personally I think we could have reachedthe promised land and put ourselves on the global map, certainly considering how far we as a club had come and how many times over Marcus's investment had been increased it was worth the punt.

The quation facing the board now is were do they want to be in 5-10 years time, we cannot constantly be raped everytime we progress because the fan base cannot grow if there is not a degree of success involved…

For me there are I think are at least 14 bigger stadiums in the country and we need to increase ours…

This would be an investment outside of FFP and leave a meaningful legacy as players themselves come and go…

The ambition has to be an average plus 42k crowd…those 12.000 extra seats would produce the revenues necessary to pay the wages of 2 more absolute class players …that is the difference of 3 league places on last year..

Whether the board are steadying the ship or were guilty of a lack of ambition is now irrelevant, the future to prevent a repeat is highly relevant..we need the increased stadium to partially fulfill our potential..
I like mute pints!
Mmmm. I see both Rodgers and Wenger have said we could have been Champions League if we'd pushed on. That's all very well, but you are right, under financial fair play that is at best a massive, dangerous punt and at worst near impossible in the current circumstances.

Adding 12,000 seats is also very easy to say off-hand, but there is a probably a reason why the south coast doesn't have a stadium that large and it is called supply and demand.

You can't just magic up 12,000 extra regular fans unless you totally revamp the pricing plan to make football maybe half the price because the local wages aren't high enough to attract bumper sell outs in the current financial climate.

Last season was all the evidence needed that even if the team is highly successful and playing great football, it is hard to pack the place out week in week out because, on the south coast, there is more competition from other sports and activities than you'd get in Newcastle or the north and less disposable cash or international fans than you'd have in central London.

Any Saints board needs to at least consider a risk assessment of what might happen if we ever got relegated, regardless of whether our goal is 100% fixed on qualifying for Europe and pushing on.

So, while you can dream about the extra players we could buy with 12,000 extra seat sales others could say how many players we'd have to sell in order to fund 12,000 empty seats in the event of a mishap.

It's not exciting or nice to have to think about, but I guess when you are running a multi-million pound business you can't afford to blindly follow a dream, unless you're name is Peter Storey or Pete Risdale, in which case just shut your eyes and carry on zooming down the fast lane regardless of whether you're on the right side of the carriage way.
Peter storey ? different situation so what did the club make on the sale of lambert and co and how much have you spent to improve team ? and you had a price increase in season tickets not to see the stars!
I paid £20 last Saturday and again tonight and last season so saints rich get richer.
£20???? For that! Even though you are a skate you have my sympathy. You are right to be disgusted. You are outraged by the price for a div 4 game aren't you?
[quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Whether we could have gone higher and kept some of the players is now a mute pint. Personally I think we could have reachedthe promised land and put ourselves on the global map, certainly considering how far we as a club had come and how many times over Marcus's investment had been increased it was worth the punt. The quation facing the board now is were do they want to be in 5-10 years time, we cannot constantly be raped everytime we progress because the fan base cannot grow if there is not a degree of success involved… For me there are I think are at least 14 bigger stadiums in the country and we need to increase ours… This would be an investment outside of FFP and leave a meaningful legacy as players themselves come and go… The ambition has to be an average plus 42k crowd…those 12.000 extra seats would produce the revenues necessary to pay the wages of 2 more absolute class players …that is the difference of 3 league places on last year.. Whether the board are steadying the ship or were guilty of a lack of ambition is now irrelevant, the future to prevent a repeat is highly relevant..we need the increased stadium to partially fulfill our potential..[/p][/quote]I like mute pints![/p][/quote]Mmmm. I see both Rodgers and Wenger have said we could have been Champions League if we'd pushed on. That's all very well, but you are right, under financial fair play that is at best a massive, dangerous punt and at worst near impossible in the current circumstances. Adding 12,000 seats is also very easy to say off-hand, but there is a probably a reason why the south coast doesn't have a stadium that large and it is called supply and demand. You can't just magic up 12,000 extra regular fans unless you totally revamp the pricing plan to make football maybe half the price because the local wages aren't high enough to attract bumper sell outs in the current financial climate. Last season was all the evidence needed that even if the team is highly successful and playing great football, it is hard to pack the place out week in week out because, on the south coast, there is more competition from other sports and activities than you'd get in Newcastle or the north and less disposable cash or international fans than you'd have in central London. Any Saints board needs to at least consider a risk assessment of what might happen if we ever got relegated, regardless of whether our goal is 100% fixed on qualifying for Europe and pushing on. So, while you can dream about the extra players we could buy with 12,000 extra seat sales others could say how many players we'd have to sell in order to fund 12,000 empty seats in the event of a mishap. It's not exciting or nice to have to think about, but I guess when you are running a multi-million pound business you can't afford to blindly follow a dream, unless you're name is Peter Storey or Pete Risdale, in which case just shut your eyes and carry on zooming down the fast lane regardless of whether you're on the right side of the carriage way.[/p][/quote]Peter storey ? different situation so what did the club make on the sale of lambert and co and how much have you spent to improve team ? and you had a price increase in season tickets not to see the stars! I paid £20 last Saturday and again tonight and last season so saints rich get richer.[/p][/quote]£20???? For that! Even though you are a skate you have my sympathy. You are right to be disgusted. You are outraged by the price for a div 4 game aren't you? Benali76
  • Score: 1

3:23pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Benali76 says...

bluewhiteandred wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
jls217 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Whether we could have gone higher and kept some of the players is now a mute pint.

Personally I think we could have reachedthe promised land and put ourselves on the global map, certainly considering how far we as a club had come and how many times over Marcus's investment had been increased it was worth the punt.

The quation facing the board now is were do they want to be in 5-10 years time, we cannot constantly be raped everytime we progress because the fan base cannot grow if there is not a degree of success involved…

For me there are I think are at least 14 bigger stadiums in the country and we need to increase ours…

This would be an investment outside of FFP and leave a meaningful legacy as players themselves come and go…

The ambition has to be an average plus 42k crowd…those 12.000 extra seats would produce the revenues necessary to pay the wages of 2 more absolute class players …that is the difference of 3 league places on last year..

Whether the board are steadying the ship or were guilty of a lack of ambition is now irrelevant, the future to prevent a repeat is highly relevant..we need the increased stadium to partially fulfill our potential..
I like mute pints!
Mmmm. I see both Rodgers and Wenger have said we could have been Champions League if we'd pushed on. That's all very well, but you are right, under financial fair play that is at best a massive, dangerous punt and at worst near impossible in the current circumstances.

Adding 12,000 seats is also very easy to say off-hand, but there is a probably a reason why the south coast doesn't have a stadium that large and it is called supply and demand.

You can't just magic up 12,000 extra regular fans unless you totally revamp the pricing plan to make football maybe half the price because the local wages aren't high enough to attract bumper sell outs in the current financial climate.

Last season was all the evidence needed that even if the team is highly successful and playing great football, it is hard to pack the place out week in week out because, on the south coast, there is more competition from other sports and activities than you'd get in Newcastle or the north and less disposable cash or international fans than you'd have in central London.

Any Saints board needs to at least consider a risk assessment of what might happen if we ever got relegated, regardless of whether our goal is 100% fixed on qualifying for Europe and pushing on.

So, while you can dream about the extra players we could buy with 12,000 extra seat sales others could say how many players we'd have to sell in order to fund 12,000 empty seats in the event of a mishap.

It's not exciting or nice to have to think about, but I guess when you are running a multi-million pound business you can't afford to blindly follow a dream, unless you're name is Peter Storey or Pete Risdale, in which case just shut your eyes and carry on zooming down the fast lane regardless of whether you're on the right side of the carriage way.
Peter storey ? different situation so what did the club make on the sale of lambert and co and how much have you spent to improve team ? and you had a price increase in season tickets not to see the stars!
I paid £20 last Saturday and again tonight and last season so saints rich get richer.
£20???? For that! Even though you are a skate you have my sympathy. You are right to be disgusted. You are outraged by the price for a div 4 game aren't you?
[quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Whether we could have gone higher and kept some of the players is now a mute pint. Personally I think we could have reachedthe promised land and put ourselves on the global map, certainly considering how far we as a club had come and how many times over Marcus's investment had been increased it was worth the punt. The quation facing the board now is were do they want to be in 5-10 years time, we cannot constantly be raped everytime we progress because the fan base cannot grow if there is not a degree of success involved… For me there are I think are at least 14 bigger stadiums in the country and we need to increase ours… This would be an investment outside of FFP and leave a meaningful legacy as players themselves come and go… The ambition has to be an average plus 42k crowd…those 12.000 extra seats would produce the revenues necessary to pay the wages of 2 more absolute class players …that is the difference of 3 league places on last year.. Whether the board are steadying the ship or were guilty of a lack of ambition is now irrelevant, the future to prevent a repeat is highly relevant..we need the increased stadium to partially fulfill our potential..[/p][/quote]I like mute pints![/p][/quote]Mmmm. I see both Rodgers and Wenger have said we could have been Champions League if we'd pushed on. That's all very well, but you are right, under financial fair play that is at best a massive, dangerous punt and at worst near impossible in the current circumstances. Adding 12,000 seats is also very easy to say off-hand, but there is a probably a reason why the south coast doesn't have a stadium that large and it is called supply and demand. You can't just magic up 12,000 extra regular fans unless you totally revamp the pricing plan to make football maybe half the price because the local wages aren't high enough to attract bumper sell outs in the current financial climate. Last season was all the evidence needed that even if the team is highly successful and playing great football, it is hard to pack the place out week in week out because, on the south coast, there is more competition from other sports and activities than you'd get in Newcastle or the north and less disposable cash or international fans than you'd have in central London. Any Saints board needs to at least consider a risk assessment of what might happen if we ever got relegated, regardless of whether our goal is 100% fixed on qualifying for Europe and pushing on. So, while you can dream about the extra players we could buy with 12,000 extra seat sales others could say how many players we'd have to sell in order to fund 12,000 empty seats in the event of a mishap. It's not exciting or nice to have to think about, but I guess when you are running a multi-million pound business you can't afford to blindly follow a dream, unless you're name is Peter Storey or Pete Risdale, in which case just shut your eyes and carry on zooming down the fast lane regardless of whether you're on the right side of the carriage way.[/p][/quote]Peter storey ? different situation so what did the club make on the sale of lambert and co and how much have you spent to improve team ? and you had a price increase in season tickets not to see the stars! I paid £20 last Saturday and again tonight and last season so saints rich get richer.[/p][/quote]£20???? For that! Even though you are a skate you have my sympathy. You are right to be disgusted. You are outraged by the price for a div 4 game aren't you? Benali76
  • Score: -1

3:36pm Tue 19 Aug 14

St Van Roetford says...

TGodSFC wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Tersites wrote:
Dear Sir / Madam,

I am writing to register my absolute and utter DISGUST at the "Ronald Koeman" cartoons on your website: http://www.theguardi



an.com/football/gall



ery/2014/aug/19/rona



ld-koeman-the-galler



y-southampton#/?pict



ure=444806438&in


dex=
7

This so called "humour" is an abomination! The pictures are highly insulting (linking Koeman to a cow!_) and I would suspect slanderous (calling Koeman a liar etc). No one allows racist or sexism, or anti-religious slander, so why, I'd sincerely like to know do you find publishing this sort of absolute venom against one man acceptable on your webpages? I would expect that there is possibly a case for legal action.

I've always been a reader and a fan of the Guardian newspaper, and am stunned and surprised that you would allow this to be published?

I look forward to the immediate removal of this page, and an expedient reply on how you can possibly justify this as 'humour' and allow this page to be published?

Regards,

Tommy.
Get over yourself - there are people being murdered for their religious beliefs on a mountainside in Iraq - NOW THAT SIR IS AN ABOMINATION. Also worthy of your absolute and utter DISGUST.

This is a football sipptake which should be taken with a pinch of salt and enjoyed - if you are capable of enjoyment that is. They don't have to justify anything to you. If you don't like it don't buy the paper or click off that page. Try to deny me a good sipptake and I may be tempted to make you the subect of my absolute and utter DISGUST and see what I can do to censor you out of the proceedings.
Yours slightly peeved.......... and still giggling.
Don't listen to him Tommy, the words of a man who openly likes JLS. Good on you son! I did the same.
Mate, it's just bants.
[quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tersites[/bold] wrote: Dear Sir / Madam, I am writing to register my absolute and utter DISGUST at the "Ronald Koeman" cartoons on your website: http://www.theguardi an.com/football/gall ery/2014/aug/19/rona ld-koeman-the-galler y-southampton#/?pict ure=444806438&in dex= 7 This so called "humour" is an abomination! The pictures are highly insulting (linking Koeman to a cow!_) and I would suspect slanderous (calling Koeman a liar etc). No one allows racist or sexism, or anti-religious slander, so why, I'd sincerely like to know do you find publishing this sort of absolute venom against one man acceptable on your webpages? I would expect that there is possibly a case for legal action. I've always been a reader and a fan of the Guardian newspaper, and am stunned and surprised that you would allow this to be published? I look forward to the immediate removal of this page, and an expedient reply on how you can possibly justify this as 'humour' and allow this page to be published? Regards, Tommy.[/p][/quote]Get over yourself - there are people being murdered for their religious beliefs on a mountainside in Iraq - NOW THAT SIR IS AN ABOMINATION. Also worthy of your absolute and utter DISGUST. This is a football sipptake which should be taken with a pinch of salt and enjoyed - if you are capable of enjoyment that is. They don't have to justify anything to you. If you don't like it don't buy the paper or click off that page. Try to deny me a good sipptake and I may be tempted to make you the subect of my absolute and utter DISGUST and see what I can do to censor you out of the proceedings. Yours slightly peeved.......... and still giggling.[/p][/quote]Don't listen to him Tommy, the words of a man who openly likes JLS. Good on you son! I did the same.[/p][/quote]Mate, it's just bants. St Van Roetford
  • Score: 2

3:47pm Tue 19 Aug 14

TGodSFC says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Tersites wrote:
Dear Sir / Madam,

I am writing to register my absolute and utter DISGUST at the "Ronald Koeman" cartoons on your website: http://www.theguardi




an.com/football/gall




ery/2014/aug/19/rona




ld-koeman-the-galler




y-southampton#/?pict




ure=444806438&in



dex=
7

This so called "humour" is an abomination! The pictures are highly insulting (linking Koeman to a cow!_) and I would suspect slanderous (calling Koeman a liar etc). No one allows racist or sexism, or anti-religious slander, so why, I'd sincerely like to know do you find publishing this sort of absolute venom against one man acceptable on your webpages? I would expect that there is possibly a case for legal action.

I've always been a reader and a fan of the Guardian newspaper, and am stunned and surprised that you would allow this to be published?

I look forward to the immediate removal of this page, and an expedient reply on how you can possibly justify this as 'humour' and allow this page to be published?

Regards,

Tommy.
Get over yourself - there are people being murdered for their religious beliefs on a mountainside in Iraq - NOW THAT SIR IS AN ABOMINATION. Also worthy of your absolute and utter DISGUST.

This is a football sipptake which should be taken with a pinch of salt and enjoyed - if you are capable of enjoyment that is. They don't have to justify anything to you. If you don't like it don't buy the paper or click off that page. Try to deny me a good sipptake and I may be tempted to make you the subect of my absolute and utter DISGUST and see what I can do to censor you out of the proceedings.
Yours slightly peeved.......... and still giggling.
Don't listen to him Tommy, the words of a man who openly likes JLS. Good on you son! I did the same.
Mate, it's just bants.
Reeaaalllllyyyyyy???
? :-P
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tersites[/bold] wrote: Dear Sir / Madam, I am writing to register my absolute and utter DISGUST at the "Ronald Koeman" cartoons on your website: http://www.theguardi an.com/football/gall ery/2014/aug/19/rona ld-koeman-the-galler y-southampton#/?pict ure=444806438&in dex= 7 This so called "humour" is an abomination! The pictures are highly insulting (linking Koeman to a cow!_) and I would suspect slanderous (calling Koeman a liar etc). No one allows racist or sexism, or anti-religious slander, so why, I'd sincerely like to know do you find publishing this sort of absolute venom against one man acceptable on your webpages? I would expect that there is possibly a case for legal action. I've always been a reader and a fan of the Guardian newspaper, and am stunned and surprised that you would allow this to be published? I look forward to the immediate removal of this page, and an expedient reply on how you can possibly justify this as 'humour' and allow this page to be published? Regards, Tommy.[/p][/quote]Get over yourself - there are people being murdered for their religious beliefs on a mountainside in Iraq - NOW THAT SIR IS AN ABOMINATION. Also worthy of your absolute and utter DISGUST. This is a football sipptake which should be taken with a pinch of salt and enjoyed - if you are capable of enjoyment that is. They don't have to justify anything to you. If you don't like it don't buy the paper or click off that page. Try to deny me a good sipptake and I may be tempted to make you the subect of my absolute and utter DISGUST and see what I can do to censor you out of the proceedings. Yours slightly peeved.......... and still giggling.[/p][/quote]Don't listen to him Tommy, the words of a man who openly likes JLS. Good on you son! I did the same.[/p][/quote]Mate, it's just bants.[/p][/quote]Reeaaalllllyyyyyy??? ? :-P TGodSFC
  • Score: 0

3:55pm Tue 19 Aug 14

St Van Roetford says...

TGodSFC wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Tersites wrote:
Dear Sir / Madam,

I am writing to register my absolute and utter DISGUST at the "Ronald Koeman" cartoons on your website: http://www.theguardi





an.com/football/gall





ery/2014/aug/19/rona





ld-koeman-the-galler





y-southampton#/?pict





ure=444806438&in




dex=
7

This so called "humour" is an abomination! The pictures are highly insulting (linking Koeman to a cow!_) and I would suspect slanderous (calling Koeman a liar etc). No one allows racist or sexism, or anti-religious slander, so why, I'd sincerely like to know do you find publishing this sort of absolute venom against one man acceptable on your webpages? I would expect that there is possibly a case for legal action.

I've always been a reader and a fan of the Guardian newspaper, and am stunned and surprised that you would allow this to be published?

I look forward to the immediate removal of this page, and an expedient reply on how you can possibly justify this as 'humour' and allow this page to be published?

Regards,

Tommy.
Get over yourself - there are people being murdered for their religious beliefs on a mountainside in Iraq - NOW THAT SIR IS AN ABOMINATION. Also worthy of your absolute and utter DISGUST.

This is a football sipptake which should be taken with a pinch of salt and enjoyed - if you are capable of enjoyment that is. They don't have to justify anything to you. If you don't like it don't buy the paper or click off that page. Try to deny me a good sipptake and I may be tempted to make you the subect of my absolute and utter DISGUST and see what I can do to censor you out of the proceedings.
Yours slightly peeved.......... and still giggling.
Don't listen to him Tommy, the words of a man who openly likes JLS. Good on you son! I did the same.
Mate, it's just bants.
Reeaaalllllyyyyyy???

? :-P
Aye, what is life without bants? It's a subject that tortured Shakespeare for many years and drove him to pen his most moving passage: "I have of late,—but wherefore I know not,—lost all my bants, forgone all custom of exercises; and indeed it goes so heavily with my disposition that this goodly frame, the earth, seems to me a sterile promontory; this most excellent canopy, the air, look you, this brave o’erhanging firmament, this majestical roof fretted with golden fire, why, it appears no other thing to me but a foul and pestilent congregation of vapours."

So next time anyone gets all huffy about someone having a bit of a laugh then, you know, think on...
[quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tersites[/bold] wrote: Dear Sir / Madam, I am writing to register my absolute and utter DISGUST at the "Ronald Koeman" cartoons on your website: http://www.theguardi an.com/football/gall ery/2014/aug/19/rona ld-koeman-the-galler y-southampton#/?pict ure=444806438&in dex= 7 This so called "humour" is an abomination! The pictures are highly insulting (linking Koeman to a cow!_) and I would suspect slanderous (calling Koeman a liar etc). No one allows racist or sexism, or anti-religious slander, so why, I'd sincerely like to know do you find publishing this sort of absolute venom against one man acceptable on your webpages? I would expect that there is possibly a case for legal action. I've always been a reader and a fan of the Guardian newspaper, and am stunned and surprised that you would allow this to be published? I look forward to the immediate removal of this page, and an expedient reply on how you can possibly justify this as 'humour' and allow this page to be published? Regards, Tommy.[/p][/quote]Get over yourself - there are people being murdered for their religious beliefs on a mountainside in Iraq - NOW THAT SIR IS AN ABOMINATION. Also worthy of your absolute and utter DISGUST. This is a football sipptake which should be taken with a pinch of salt and enjoyed - if you are capable of enjoyment that is. They don't have to justify anything to you. If you don't like it don't buy the paper or click off that page. Try to deny me a good sipptake and I may be tempted to make you the subect of my absolute and utter DISGUST and see what I can do to censor you out of the proceedings. Yours slightly peeved.......... and still giggling.[/p][/quote]Don't listen to him Tommy, the words of a man who openly likes JLS. Good on you son! I did the same.[/p][/quote]Mate, it's just bants.[/p][/quote]Reeaaalllllyyyyyy??? ? :-P[/p][/quote]Aye, what is life without bants? It's a subject that tortured Shakespeare for many years and drove him to pen his most moving passage: "I have of late,—but wherefore I know not,—lost all my bants, forgone all custom of exercises; and indeed it goes so heavily with my disposition that this goodly frame, the earth, seems to me a sterile promontory; this most excellent canopy, the air, look you, this brave o’erhanging firmament, this majestical roof fretted with golden fire, why, it appears no other thing to me but a foul and pestilent congregation of vapours." So next time anyone gets all huffy about someone having a bit of a laugh then, you know, think on... St Van Roetford
  • Score: 1

4:03pm Tue 19 Aug 14

jls217 says...

TGodSFC wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Tersites wrote:
Dear Sir / Madam,

I am writing to register my absolute and utter DISGUST at the "Ronald Koeman" cartoons on your website: http://www.theguardi





an.com/football/gall





ery/2014/aug/19/rona





ld-koeman-the-galler





y-southampton#/?pict





ure=444806438&in




dex=
7

This so called "humour" is an abomination! The pictures are highly insulting (linking Koeman to a cow!_) and I would suspect slanderous (calling Koeman a liar etc). No one allows racist or sexism, or anti-religious slander, so why, I'd sincerely like to know do you find publishing this sort of absolute venom against one man acceptable on your webpages? I would expect that there is possibly a case for legal action.

I've always been a reader and a fan of the Guardian newspaper, and am stunned and surprised that you would allow this to be published?

I look forward to the immediate removal of this page, and an expedient reply on how you can possibly justify this as 'humour' and allow this page to be published?

Regards,

Tommy.
Get over yourself - there are people being murdered for their religious beliefs on a mountainside in Iraq - NOW THAT SIR IS AN ABOMINATION. Also worthy of your absolute and utter DISGUST.

This is a football sipptake which should be taken with a pinch of salt and enjoyed - if you are capable of enjoyment that is. They don't have to justify anything to you. If you don't like it don't buy the paper or click off that page. Try to deny me a good sipptake and I may be tempted to make you the subect of my absolute and utter DISGUST and see what I can do to censor you out of the proceedings.
Yours slightly peeved.......... and still giggling.
Don't listen to him Tommy, the words of a man who openly likes JLS. Good on you son! I did the same.
Mate, it's just bants.
Reeaaalllllyyyyyy???

? :-P
Yeeeeeeeesssssssss!!
!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tersites[/bold] wrote: Dear Sir / Madam, I am writing to register my absolute and utter DISGUST at the "Ronald Koeman" cartoons on your website: http://www.theguardi an.com/football/gall ery/2014/aug/19/rona ld-koeman-the-galler y-southampton#/?pict ure=444806438&in dex= 7 This so called "humour" is an abomination! The pictures are highly insulting (linking Koeman to a cow!_) and I would suspect slanderous (calling Koeman a liar etc). No one allows racist or sexism, or anti-religious slander, so why, I'd sincerely like to know do you find publishing this sort of absolute venom against one man acceptable on your webpages? I would expect that there is possibly a case for legal action. I've always been a reader and a fan of the Guardian newspaper, and am stunned and surprised that you would allow this to be published? I look forward to the immediate removal of this page, and an expedient reply on how you can possibly justify this as 'humour' and allow this page to be published? Regards, Tommy.[/p][/quote]Get over yourself - there are people being murdered for their religious beliefs on a mountainside in Iraq - NOW THAT SIR IS AN ABOMINATION. Also worthy of your absolute and utter DISGUST. This is a football sipptake which should be taken with a pinch of salt and enjoyed - if you are capable of enjoyment that is. They don't have to justify anything to you. If you don't like it don't buy the paper or click off that page. Try to deny me a good sipptake and I may be tempted to make you the subect of my absolute and utter DISGUST and see what I can do to censor you out of the proceedings. Yours slightly peeved.......... and still giggling.[/p][/quote]Don't listen to him Tommy, the words of a man who openly likes JLS. Good on you son! I did the same.[/p][/quote]Mate, it's just bants.[/p][/quote]Reeaaalllllyyyyyy??? ? :-P[/p][/quote]Yeeeeeeeesssssssss!! !!!!!!!!!!! jls217
  • Score: 0

4:06pm Tue 19 Aug 14

jls217 says...

damoose wrote:
Love to see us bid 5million for Odegaard he looks perfect for us


http://www.101greatg

oals.com/blog/rememb

er-the-name-15-year-

old-martin-odegaard-

called-up-by-norway/

?
There was some gossip that Manure had put in an astonomical bid to secure this Wunderkind. He does look good doesn't he?
[quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: Love to see us bid 5million for Odegaard he looks perfect for us http://www.101greatg oals.com/blog/rememb er-the-name-15-year- old-martin-odegaard- called-up-by-norway/ ?[/p][/quote]There was some gossip that Manure had put in an astonomical bid to secure this Wunderkind. He does look good doesn't he? jls217
  • Score: 1

4:09pm Tue 19 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
SouthamptonLegend wrote:
Paul Lambert having a dig at Big Ron

http://www1.skysport



s.com/transfer/news/



12691/9429276/transf



er-news-paul-lambert



-blasts-ronald-koema



n-over-southamptons-



pursuit-of-aston-vil



las-ron-vlaar
Bit rich after how this club has been assaulted from all quarters, media, ex manager, possibly ex chairman, ex players, opposing managers, some fans, have I missed any?
Just the most important one, but don't let that spoil your theories.
In every bunch of roses
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote: Paul Lambert having a dig at Big Ron http://www1.skysport s.com/transfer/news/ 12691/9429276/transf er-news-paul-lambert -blasts-ronald-koema n-over-southamptons- pursuit-of-aston-vil las-ron-vlaar[/p][/quote]Bit rich after how this club has been assaulted from all quarters, media, ex manager, possibly ex chairman, ex players, opposing managers, some fans, have I missed any?[/p][/quote]Just the most important one, but don't let that spoil your theories.[/p][/quote]In every bunch of roses fascia123
  • Score: 2

4:30pm Tue 19 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Benali76 wrote:
bluewhiteandred wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
jls217 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Whether we could have gone higher and kept some of the players is now a mute pint.

Personally I think we could have reachedthe promised land and put ourselves on the global map, certainly considering how far we as a club had come and how many times over Marcus's investment had been increased it was worth the punt.

The quation facing the board now is were do they want to be in 5-10 years time, we cannot constantly be raped everytime we progress because the fan base cannot grow if there is not a degree of success involved…

For me there are I think are at least 14 bigger stadiums in the country and we need to increase ours…

This would be an investment outside of FFP and leave a meaningful legacy as players themselves come and go…

The ambition has to be an average plus 42k crowd…those 12.000 extra seats would produce the revenues necessary to pay the wages of 2 more absolute class players …that is the difference of 3 league places on last year..

Whether the board are steadying the ship or were guilty of a lack of ambition is now irrelevant, the future to prevent a repeat is highly relevant..we need the increased stadium to partially fulfill our potential..
I like mute pints!
Mmmm. I see both Rodgers and Wenger have said we could have been Champions League if we'd pushed on. That's all very well, but you are right, under financial fair play that is at best a massive, dangerous punt and at worst near impossible in the current circumstances.

Adding 12,000 seats is also very easy to say off-hand, but there is a probably a reason why the south coast doesn't have a stadium that large and it is called supply and demand.

You can't just magic up 12,000 extra regular fans unless you totally revamp the pricing plan to make football maybe half the price because the local wages aren't high enough to attract bumper sell outs in the current financial climate.

Last season was all the evidence needed that even if the team is highly successful and playing great football, it is hard to pack the place out week in week out because, on the south coast, there is more competition from other sports and activities than you'd get in Newcastle or the north and less disposable cash or international fans than you'd have in central London.

Any Saints board needs to at least consider a risk assessment of what might happen if we ever got relegated, regardless of whether our goal is 100% fixed on qualifying for Europe and pushing on.

So, while you can dream about the extra players we could buy with 12,000 extra seat sales others could say how many players we'd have to sell in order to fund 12,000 empty seats in the event of a mishap.

It's not exciting or nice to have to think about, but I guess when you are running a multi-million pound business you can't afford to blindly follow a dream, unless you're name is Peter Storey or Pete Risdale, in which case just shut your eyes and carry on zooming down the fast lane regardless of whether you're on the right side of the carriage way.
Peter storey ? different situation so what did the club make on the sale of lambert and co and how much have you spent to improve team ? and you had a price increase in season tickets not to see the stars!
I paid £20 last Saturday and again tonight and last season so saints rich get richer.
£20???? For that! Even though you are a skate you have my sympathy. You are right to be disgusted. You are outraged by the price for a div 4 game aren't you?
Well, I suppose you can't accuse the Skates of not being ambitious when they price their games like that - could pay one of their player's weekly wages with one person through the turnstiles.

I believe they also operate a 'kids go free' policy, but it's more an early release scheme for young offenders who agree to attend Pompey matches as part of their sentence.
[quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Whether we could have gone higher and kept some of the players is now a mute pint. Personally I think we could have reachedthe promised land and put ourselves on the global map, certainly considering how far we as a club had come and how many times over Marcus's investment had been increased it was worth the punt. The quation facing the board now is were do they want to be in 5-10 years time, we cannot constantly be raped everytime we progress because the fan base cannot grow if there is not a degree of success involved… For me there are I think are at least 14 bigger stadiums in the country and we need to increase ours… This would be an investment outside of FFP and leave a meaningful legacy as players themselves come and go… The ambition has to be an average plus 42k crowd…those 12.000 extra seats would produce the revenues necessary to pay the wages of 2 more absolute class players …that is the difference of 3 league places on last year.. Whether the board are steadying the ship or were guilty of a lack of ambition is now irrelevant, the future to prevent a repeat is highly relevant..we need the increased stadium to partially fulfill our potential..[/p][/quote]I like mute pints![/p][/quote]Mmmm. I see both Rodgers and Wenger have said we could have been Champions League if we'd pushed on. That's all very well, but you are right, under financial fair play that is at best a massive, dangerous punt and at worst near impossible in the current circumstances. Adding 12,000 seats is also very easy to say off-hand, but there is a probably a reason why the south coast doesn't have a stadium that large and it is called supply and demand. You can't just magic up 12,000 extra regular fans unless you totally revamp the pricing plan to make football maybe half the price because the local wages aren't high enough to attract bumper sell outs in the current financial climate. Last season was all the evidence needed that even if the team is highly successful and playing great football, it is hard to pack the place out week in week out because, on the south coast, there is more competition from other sports and activities than you'd get in Newcastle or the north and less disposable cash or international fans than you'd have in central London. Any Saints board needs to at least consider a risk assessment of what might happen if we ever got relegated, regardless of whether our goal is 100% fixed on qualifying for Europe and pushing on. So, while you can dream about the extra players we could buy with 12,000 extra seat sales others could say how many players we'd have to sell in order to fund 12,000 empty seats in the event of a mishap. It's not exciting or nice to have to think about, but I guess when you are running a multi-million pound business you can't afford to blindly follow a dream, unless you're name is Peter Storey or Pete Risdale, in which case just shut your eyes and carry on zooming down the fast lane regardless of whether you're on the right side of the carriage way.[/p][/quote]Peter storey ? different situation so what did the club make on the sale of lambert and co and how much have you spent to improve team ? and you had a price increase in season tickets not to see the stars! I paid £20 last Saturday and again tonight and last season so saints rich get richer.[/p][/quote]£20???? For that! Even though you are a skate you have my sympathy. You are right to be disgusted. You are outraged by the price for a div 4 game aren't you?[/p][/quote]Well, I suppose you can't accuse the Skates of not being ambitious when they price their games like that - could pay one of their player's weekly wages with one person through the turnstiles. I believe they also operate a 'kids go free' policy, but it's more an early release scheme for young offenders who agree to attend Pompey matches as part of their sentence. SaintJD
  • Score: 1

4:39pm Tue 19 Aug 14

randre says...

TGodSFC wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
St Mark wrote:
milton road wrote:
If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but
Thank you
I don't see it - would like to complain if I could.
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I was just directed to your website with your cartoon gallery of Ronald Koeman and I would like to make a formal complaint about it. It may be seen as a joke but realistically is comes across as an attack on an innocent party. Southampton FC have been through the wars this summer and this piece comes across as an attack by you on one of England’s great football clubs. It’s in complete poor taste and seems to me that if you would run something like this (even if it’s a joke) you clearly have no idea what’s going on at the club and what real journalism is! It’s clear to us and will become clear to you small minded people that the sale of certain players was for the best interest of SFC in the long run. I’m angered and disgusted by this article so much so I demand you to take it down and issue a formal apology.
Also told everyone i know on twiter to complain about this article, really has fcked me off!! Our club gets attacked by the media all summer long, stand up and be counted!!
I have emaild them, this gallery is rubbish... Nasty little paper.. This is what I wrote..

Dear Sir / Madam,

I recently came across your supposedly entertaining gallery of Ronald Koeman and Southampton.

Whilst I am sure it is of great amusement to you (probably nobody else), it sadly is very dull. Media, like the Guardian, has been mud slinging at Southampton all through the Summer when the club and supporters have gone through a troubled time. However, if you actually did some factual journalism you would find most of what as actually gone on has been quite positive. Pocchetinno and teh players who have left did so becasue they wanted to and they all lacked the imagination and talent to see through what could have been.

However the club have built back up again, if you actually did some tresearch you would know Koeman sanctioned all the moves and is has added quality to the squad.

But as we are not one of your London luvvy teams or the big 4 you are not interested in facts. Never let the truth get in the way of a good (in this case it is rubbish) gallery!!

I think it is time you took this down and apologised to the club and manager for your childish gallery.

I must state my 6 year old could create something more amusing, funnier and actually factual.

Regards
[quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Mark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: If you go on the guardian site and look there is a gallery of distasteful pictures and cartoons aimed at making a mockery of Koeman. I would ask fans to write their distaste of it under 10 talking points from the weekend. To me it is character assassination, its meant to be humorous but I found it anything but Thank you[/p][/quote]I don't see it - would like to complain if I could.[/p][/quote]utter disgrace!!! http://www.theguardi an.com/football/gall ery/2014/aug/19/rona ld-koeman-the-galler y-southampton#/?pict ure=444738263&in dex= 6[/p][/quote]Emailed the guardian. I ask you all to please do the same !!! gallery@theguardian, com I was just directed to your website with your cartoon gallery of Ronald Koeman and I would like to make a formal complaint about it. It may be seen as a joke but realistically is comes across as an attack on an innocent party. Southampton FC have been through the wars this summer and this piece comes across as an attack by you on one of England’s great football clubs. It’s in complete poor taste and seems to me that if you would run something like this (even if it’s a joke) you clearly have no idea what’s going on at the club and what real journalism is! It’s clear to us and will become clear to you small minded people that the sale of certain players was for the best interest of SFC in the long run. I’m angered and disgusted by this article so much so I demand you to take it down and issue a formal apology.[/p][/quote]Also told everyone i know on twiter to complain about this article, really has fcked me off!! Our club gets attacked by the media all summer long, stand up and be counted!![/p][/quote]I have emaild them, this gallery is rubbish... Nasty little paper.. This is what I wrote.. Dear Sir / Madam, I recently came across your supposedly entertaining gallery of Ronald Koeman and Southampton. Whilst I am sure it is of great amusement to you (probably nobody else), it sadly is very dull. Media, like the Guardian, has been mud slinging at Southampton all through the Summer when the club and supporters have gone through a troubled time. However, if you actually did some factual journalism you would find most of what as actually gone on has been quite positive. Pocchetinno and teh players who have left did so becasue they wanted to and they all lacked the imagination and talent to see through what could have been. However the club have built back up again, if you actually did some tresearch you would know Koeman sanctioned all the moves and is has added quality to the squad. But as we are not one of your London luvvy teams or the big 4 you are not interested in facts. Never let the truth get in the way of a good (in this case it is rubbish) gallery!! I think it is time you took this down and apologised to the club and manager for your childish gallery. I must state my 6 year old could create something more amusing, funnier and actually factual. Regards randre
  • Score: -1

4:52pm Tue 19 Aug 14

saintbobby says...

Cannot help with protests to The Guardian as I have not seen what is described as abominations. My greatest achievement is never buying The Guardian and never reading The Guardian. And I never will!

They get so much wrong and then there is Polly Toynbee.

Sorry, I will stick to supporting my wonderful Saints for another 55 years. So I have some experience and I watched Terry Paine, John Sydenham, Ken Wimhurst, Dave Watson and on and on - and, of course, Le God. I hope everyone, everyone on here has seen that goal against Newcastle United. Simply world class, NO, out of this world class.

This is just to help everyone understand what a lucky Saint I have been, but, if it is a failing, sorry, but I cannot read The Guardian and worse I cannot protest at what sounds like some crass effort on their part.

COYR&WS!!!!!!
Cannot help with protests to The Guardian as I have not seen what is described as abominations. My greatest achievement is never buying The Guardian and never reading The Guardian. And I never will! They get so much wrong and then there is Polly Toynbee. Sorry, I will stick to supporting my wonderful Saints for another 55 years. So I have some experience and I watched Terry Paine, John Sydenham, Ken Wimhurst, Dave Watson and on and on - and, of course, Le God. I hope everyone, everyone on here has seen that goal against Newcastle United. Simply world class, NO, out of this world class. This is just to help everyone understand what a lucky Saint I have been, but, if it is a failing, sorry, but I cannot read The Guardian and worse I cannot protest at what sounds like some crass effort on their part. COYR&WS!!!!!! saintbobby
  • Score: 3

5:08pm Tue 19 Aug 14

warrens 76 says...

Rising_Son wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
jls217 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Whether we could have gone higher and kept some of the players is now a mute pint.

Personally I think we could have reachedthe promised land and put ourselves on the global map, certainly considering how far we as a club had come and how many times over Marcus's investment had been increased it was worth the punt.

The quation facing the board now is were do they want to be in 5-10 years time, we cannot constantly be raped everytime we progress because the fan base cannot grow if there is not a degree of success involved…

For me there are I think are at least 14 bigger stadiums in the country and we need to increase ours…

This would be an investment outside of FFP and leave a meaningful legacy as players themselves come and go…

The ambition has to be an average plus 42k crowd…those 12.000 extra seats would produce the revenues necessary to pay the wages of 2 more absolute class players …that is the difference of 3 league places on last year..

Whether the board are steadying the ship or were guilty of a lack of ambition is now irrelevant, the future to prevent a repeat is highly relevant..we need the increased stadium to partially fulfill our potential..
I like mute pints!
Mmmm. I see both Rodgers and Wenger have said we could have been Champions League if we'd pushed on. That's all very well, but you are right, under financial fair play that is at best a massive, dangerous punt and at worst near impossible in the current circumstances.

Adding 12,000 seats is also very easy to say off-hand, but there is a probably a reason why the south coast doesn't have a stadium that large and it is called supply and demand.

You can't just magic up 12,000 extra regular fans unless you totally revamp the pricing plan to make football maybe half the price because the local wages aren't high enough to attract bumper sell outs in the current financial climate.

Last season was all the evidence needed that even if the team is highly successful and playing great football, it is hard to pack the place out week in week out because, on the south coast, there is more competition from other sports and activities than you'd get in Newcastle or the north and less disposable cash or international fans than you'd have in central London.

Any Saints board needs to at least consider a risk assessment of what might happen if we ever got relegated, regardless of whether our goal is 100% fixed on qualifying for Europe and pushing on.

So, while you can dream about the extra players we could buy with 12,000 extra seat sales others could say how many players we'd have to sell in order to fund 12,000 empty seats in the event of a mishap.

It's not exciting or nice to have to think about, but I guess when you are running a multi-million pound business you can't afford to blindly follow a dream, unless you're name is Peter Storey or Pete Risdale, in which case just shut your eyes and carry on zooming down the fast lane regardless of whether you're on the right side of the carriage way.
For 10 years BHA were without a stadium of their own, their average gates 7000.....now 24.000 and rising next season they increase to 35.000.
SFC has thought small since before the war and many are still content to do so, had we built the ground in the 60's we would not have suffered years of 15.000 gates....

..had we built St Mary's to 44.000 as could have been done we would have sell outs on a third of games, slight increase on another 3rd and given freebies to kids to fill the ground on others...sometimes the lack of vision from our own fans is lamentable.
If I've done my sums right, you're saying that a 44,000 seater stadium would give us an average (paying) gate of about 38,000. Plus, based on things you've written before, free seats for kids would help build support for the future. It sounds reasonable (and quite exciting) to me, but I wonder how long it will take for the investment to become economically worthwhile.
It's the legacy thing, people the world over have bequethed, stands, stadiums etc...the Leibherrs would leave us forever richer with this and make no mistake we will fill it.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Whether we could have gone higher and kept some of the players is now a mute pint. Personally I think we could have reachedthe promised land and put ourselves on the global map, certainly considering how far we as a club had come and how many times over Marcus's investment had been increased it was worth the punt. The quation facing the board now is were do they want to be in 5-10 years time, we cannot constantly be raped everytime we progress because the fan base cannot grow if there is not a degree of success involved… For me there are I think are at least 14 bigger stadiums in the country and we need to increase ours… This would be an investment outside of FFP and leave a meaningful legacy as players themselves come and go… The ambition has to be an average plus 42k crowd…those 12.000 extra seats would produce the revenues necessary to pay the wages of 2 more absolute class players …that is the difference of 3 league places on last year.. Whether the board are steadying the ship or were guilty of a lack of ambition is now irrelevant, the future to prevent a repeat is highly relevant..we need the increased stadium to partially fulfill our potential..[/p][/quote]I like mute pints![/p][/quote]Mmmm. I see both Rodgers and Wenger have said we could have been Champions League if we'd pushed on. That's all very well, but you are right, under financial fair play that is at best a massive, dangerous punt and at worst near impossible in the current circumstances. Adding 12,000 seats is also very easy to say off-hand, but there is a probably a reason why the south coast doesn't have a stadium that large and it is called supply and demand. You can't just magic up 12,000 extra regular fans unless you totally revamp the pricing plan to make football maybe half the price because the local wages aren't high enough to attract bumper sell outs in the current financial climate. Last season was all the evidence needed that even if the team is highly successful and playing great football, it is hard to pack the place out week in week out because, on the south coast, there is more competition from other sports and activities than you'd get in Newcastle or the north and less disposable cash or international fans than you'd have in central London. Any Saints board needs to at least consider a risk assessment of what might happen if we ever got relegated, regardless of whether our goal is 100% fixed on qualifying for Europe and pushing on. So, while you can dream about the extra players we could buy with 12,000 extra seat sales others could say how many players we'd have to sell in order to fund 12,000 empty seats in the event of a mishap. It's not exciting or nice to have to think about, but I guess when you are running a multi-million pound business you can't afford to blindly follow a dream, unless you're name is Peter Storey or Pete Risdale, in which case just shut your eyes and carry on zooming down the fast lane regardless of whether you're on the right side of the carriage way.[/p][/quote]For 10 years BHA were without a stadium of their own, their average gates 7000.....now 24.000 and rising next season they increase to 35.000. SFC has thought small since before the war and many are still content to do so, had we built the ground in the 60's we would not have suffered years of 15.000 gates.... ..had we built St Mary's to 44.000 as could have been done we would have sell outs on a third of games, slight increase on another 3rd and given freebies to kids to fill the ground on others...sometimes the lack of vision from our own fans is lamentable.[/p][/quote]If I've done my sums right, you're saying that a 44,000 seater stadium would give us an average (paying) gate of about 38,000. Plus, based on things you've written before, free seats for kids would help build support for the future. It sounds reasonable (and quite exciting) to me, but I wonder how long it will take for the investment to become economically worthwhile.[/p][/quote]It's the legacy thing, people the world over have bequethed, stands, stadiums etc...the Leibherrs would leave us forever richer with this and make no mistake we will fill it. warrens 76
  • Score: -2

5:14pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Simmo13 says...

SaintJD wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
Glad you were impressed with our "new look Saints" Rickie. On the other hand we wern't impressed even slightly with Brenda's new look Skiverpool
And while I understand it is a move up in terms of the size of the club and wages, the weekend just goes to prove even more than Liverpool had their chance last year and blew it.

They even had their chance in the transfer window but blew it.

Look at Man City and Chelsea and I'm sorry but the other clubs, including the other destinations our big player seem to fancy, are fighting for third place and a mediocre Champions League run.

Liverpool, Arsenal, Man Utd and Spurs are simply too lightweight in central midfield and defence to win the title.

FFS Saints have a more comparable midfield powerhouse than those teams based on the evidence of the weekend.

If we could just get in another world-class centre back (maybe we already have) we'd be a force because our team is looking physically very strong.

Liverpool in particular have a tough start to the season and by the time Adam is fit I think any illusions of winning the championship will be long gone - City will, IMO, out muscle them and show the difference between title winners and teams that take the 'you score, we score' approach.
Lalana even when fit will be only used for 60 minutes think you will find he was the most substituted midfield player in the whole of the PL last season and if you watched him every week you could visibly watch him fade.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: Glad you were impressed with our "new look Saints" Rickie. On the other hand we wern't impressed even slightly with Brenda's new look Skiverpool[/p][/quote]And while I understand it is a move up in terms of the size of the club and wages, the weekend just goes to prove even more than Liverpool had their chance last year and blew it. They even had their chance in the transfer window but blew it. Look at Man City and Chelsea and I'm sorry but the other clubs, including the other destinations our big player seem to fancy, are fighting for third place and a mediocre Champions League run. Liverpool, Arsenal, Man Utd and Spurs are simply too lightweight in central midfield and defence to win the title. FFS Saints have a more comparable midfield powerhouse than those teams based on the evidence of the weekend. If we could just get in another world-class centre back (maybe we already have) we'd be a force because our team is looking physically very strong. Liverpool in particular have a tough start to the season and by the time Adam is fit I think any illusions of winning the championship will be long gone - City will, IMO, out muscle them and show the difference between title winners and teams that take the 'you score, we score' approach.[/p][/quote]Lalana even when fit will be only used for 60 minutes think you will find he was the most substituted midfield player in the whole of the PL last season and if you watched him every week you could visibly watch him fade. Simmo13
  • Score: 0

5:14pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Simmo13 says...

SaintJD wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
Glad you were impressed with our "new look Saints" Rickie. On the other hand we wern't impressed even slightly with Brenda's new look Skiverpool
And while I understand it is a move up in terms of the size of the club and wages, the weekend just goes to prove even more than Liverpool had their chance last year and blew it.

They even had their chance in the transfer window but blew it.

Look at Man City and Chelsea and I'm sorry but the other clubs, including the other destinations our big player seem to fancy, are fighting for third place and a mediocre Champions League run.

Liverpool, Arsenal, Man Utd and Spurs are simply too lightweight in central midfield and defence to win the title.

FFS Saints have a more comparable midfield powerhouse than those teams based on the evidence of the weekend.

If we could just get in another world-class centre back (maybe we already have) we'd be a force because our team is looking physically very strong.

Liverpool in particular have a tough start to the season and by the time Adam is fit I think any illusions of winning the championship will be long gone - City will, IMO, out muscle them and show the difference between title winners and teams that take the 'you score, we score' approach.
Lalana even when fit will be only used for 60 minutes think you will find he was the most substituted midfield player in the whole of the PL last season and if you watched him every week you could visibly watch him fade.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: Glad you were impressed with our "new look Saints" Rickie. On the other hand we wern't impressed even slightly with Brenda's new look Skiverpool[/p][/quote]And while I understand it is a move up in terms of the size of the club and wages, the weekend just goes to prove even more than Liverpool had their chance last year and blew it. They even had their chance in the transfer window but blew it. Look at Man City and Chelsea and I'm sorry but the other clubs, including the other destinations our big player seem to fancy, are fighting for third place and a mediocre Champions League run. Liverpool, Arsenal, Man Utd and Spurs are simply too lightweight in central midfield and defence to win the title. FFS Saints have a more comparable midfield powerhouse than those teams based on the evidence of the weekend. If we could just get in another world-class centre back (maybe we already have) we'd be a force because our team is looking physically very strong. Liverpool in particular have a tough start to the season and by the time Adam is fit I think any illusions of winning the championship will be long gone - City will, IMO, out muscle them and show the difference between title winners and teams that take the 'you score, we score' approach.[/p][/quote]Lalana even when fit will be only used for 60 minutes think you will find he was the most substituted midfield player in the whole of the PL last season and if you watched him every week you could visibly watch him fade. Simmo13
  • Score: 0

5:14pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Simmo13 says...

SaintJD wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
Glad you were impressed with our "new look Saints" Rickie. On the other hand we wern't impressed even slightly with Brenda's new look Skiverpool
And while I understand it is a move up in terms of the size of the club and wages, the weekend just goes to prove even more than Liverpool had their chance last year and blew it.

They even had their chance in the transfer window but blew it.

Look at Man City and Chelsea and I'm sorry but the other clubs, including the other destinations our big player seem to fancy, are fighting for third place and a mediocre Champions League run.

Liverpool, Arsenal, Man Utd and Spurs are simply too lightweight in central midfield and defence to win the title.

FFS Saints have a more comparable midfield powerhouse than those teams based on the evidence of the weekend.

If we could just get in another world-class centre back (maybe we already have) we'd be a force because our team is looking physically very strong.

Liverpool in particular have a tough start to the season and by the time Adam is fit I think any illusions of winning the championship will be long gone - City will, IMO, out muscle them and show the difference between title winners and teams that take the 'you score, we score' approach.
Lalana even when fit will be only used for 60 minutes think you will find he was the most substituted midfield player in the whole of the PL last season and if you watched him every week you could visibly watch him fade.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: Glad you were impressed with our "new look Saints" Rickie. On the other hand we wern't impressed even slightly with Brenda's new look Skiverpool[/p][/quote]And while I understand it is a move up in terms of the size of the club and wages, the weekend just goes to prove even more than Liverpool had their chance last year and blew it. They even had their chance in the transfer window but blew it. Look at Man City and Chelsea and I'm sorry but the other clubs, including the other destinations our big player seem to fancy, are fighting for third place and a mediocre Champions League run. Liverpool, Arsenal, Man Utd and Spurs are simply too lightweight in central midfield and defence to win the title. FFS Saints have a more comparable midfield powerhouse than those teams based on the evidence of the weekend. If we could just get in another world-class centre back (maybe we already have) we'd be a force because our team is looking physically very strong. Liverpool in particular have a tough start to the season and by the time Adam is fit I think any illusions of winning the championship will be long gone - City will, IMO, out muscle them and show the difference between title winners and teams that take the 'you score, we score' approach.[/p][/quote]Lalana even when fit will be only used for 60 minutes think you will find he was the most substituted midfield player in the whole of the PL last season and if you watched him every week you could visibly watch him fade. Simmo13
  • Score: 0

5:48pm Tue 19 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

Just an observation, but there seems to have been a lot of new posters joined since the end of last season, and we are missing quite a lot of our old regulars.

I know there were name changes that were explained.
The ones who do not post anymore were the ''Cortese appreciation society'', Cortese was like a demi-god to these posters and any one who critisied him was shot down in flames.
The new ones are now very anti Cortese and support the current board and any one who dares critise the board are shot down in flames..... Coincidence. I think not.

The ''new'' posters are all very vocal and have a gang mentality, jog anyones memory???

I don't normally do theories, but this one intrigues me.
Just an observation, but there seems to have been a lot of new posters joined since the end of last season, and we are missing quite a lot of our old regulars. I know there were name changes that were explained. The ones who do not post anymore were the ''Cortese appreciation society'', Cortese was like a demi-god to these posters and any one who critisied him was shot down in flames. The new ones are now very anti Cortese and support the current board and any one who dares critise the board are shot down in flames..... Coincidence. I think not. The ''new'' posters are all very vocal and have a gang mentality, jog anyones memory??? I don't normally do theories, but this one intrigues me. costa gaz
  • Score: 2

5:58pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Costa Baz says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
Bernadette M. Nicholas wrote:
my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out
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How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else!

Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.
It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.
I did and they didn't.
Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't.
This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman...
Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us.
If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.
whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??
It's a little poke at the same people who keep blaming the press for everything T.
The press get blamed, Steve Gerrard got blamed, Roy Hodgson the list is endless.
Today I read that Pochettino was tapped up by .... wait for it.... Osvaldo Ardilles.

Yet an ex-employee, who would probably know what went on, suggested where the blame lies and its viewed as blasphemy.
Yes an ex employee has "suggested", where the blame lies, but yet again, like all the others he doesn't have the balls to back up his suggestion with actual evidence.

Nor does he have the balls to put forward his reasons why he, and the others, thought the board's ambition wasn't in keeping with that of the players. Maybe that is because the players aren't sure the fans would take their side, if they put it out there?

I think the reference, in comments put out by the board, to some players wishing to take short cuts, to European football, is key.
But didn't they all come out publicly when Cortese left,and say they didn't want MoPo to leave.Not trying to score points here by the way,but I seem to remember that happening?
Yes they did say that, and the board made him and his staff a very good offer, to stay.
I think it was Seedhouse, through his conversations with Jesus Perez, who said they were actually split on taking the offer, so it couldn't have been that shabby an offer.

All I would like is for those claiming lack of ambition, by the board, as a reason for leaving the club, to put there reasons for saying this, into the public forum, so we can make our own decisions.
But why would they have stated publicly that they wanted him to stay,if they (supposedly)already knew he was going to leave?
Coming out,and saying they wanted him to stay,suggests to me that they were prepared to stay under his leadership,and continue the dream that ML & NC had envisaged for the club,and that maybe not all off them were money grabbing mercenaries.
If they felt afterwards that they had then been sold down the river,by a board who didn't wish to pursue that dream any longer(for whatever reason),it would be perfectly reasonable for some of them to have then decided to ply their trade elsewhere, without being judged disloyal.
In the first instance, I haven't referred to any of them, that left, as "money grabbing mercenaries".
All I have suggested is that one or more of them that have left, using the "lack of ambition, by the board" as their reason, for leaving, might like to explain why they think the board lacks ambition.

Why would they say they wanted MP to stay, if they already knew he was leaving?
Maybe they felt, if enough of them said it, he would stay?
Or maybe because it gave them a ready made excuse to leave, themselves, as in "the board lacked the ambition (to keep the manager), therefore I'm off as well".

Until they have the courage to back their allegations up, with substance, it is, IMO, just mud slinging.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bernadette M. Nicholas[/bold] wrote: my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out http://x.co/5Hkqe[/p][/quote]How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else! Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.[/p][/quote]It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.[/p][/quote]I did and they didn't.[/p][/quote]Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't. This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman... Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us. If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.[/p][/quote]whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??[/p][/quote]It's a little poke at the same people who keep blaming the press for everything T. The press get blamed, Steve Gerrard got blamed, Roy Hodgson the list is endless. Today I read that Pochettino was tapped up by .... wait for it.... Osvaldo Ardilles. Yet an ex-employee, who would probably know what went on, suggested where the blame lies and its viewed as blasphemy.[/p][/quote]Yes an ex employee has "suggested", where the blame lies, but yet again, like all the others he doesn't have the balls to back up his suggestion with actual evidence. Nor does he have the balls to put forward his reasons why he, and the others, thought the board's ambition wasn't in keeping with that of the players. Maybe that is because the players aren't sure the fans would take their side, if they put it out there? I think the reference, in comments put out by the board, to some players wishing to take short cuts, to European football, is key.[/p][/quote]But didn't they all come out publicly when Cortese left,and say they didn't want MoPo to leave.Not trying to score points here by the way,but I seem to remember that happening?[/p][/quote]Yes they did say that, and the board made him and his staff a very good offer, to stay. I think it was Seedhouse, through his conversations with Jesus Perez, who said they were actually split on taking the offer, so it couldn't have been that shabby an offer. All I would like is for those claiming lack of ambition, by the board, as a reason for leaving the club, to put there reasons for saying this, into the public forum, so we can make our own decisions.[/p][/quote]But why would they have stated publicly that they wanted him to stay,if they (supposedly)already knew he was going to leave? Coming out,and saying they wanted him to stay,suggests to me that they were prepared to stay under his leadership,and continue the dream that ML & NC had envisaged for the club,and that maybe not all off them were money grabbing mercenaries. If they felt afterwards that they had then been sold down the river,by a board who didn't wish to pursue that dream any longer(for whatever reason),it would be perfectly reasonable for some of them to have then decided to ply their trade elsewhere, without being judged disloyal.[/p][/quote]In the first instance, I haven't referred to any of them, that left, as "money grabbing mercenaries". All I have suggested is that one or more of them that have left, using the "lack of ambition, by the board" as their reason, for leaving, might like to explain why they think the board lacks ambition. Why would they say they wanted MP to stay, if they already knew he was leaving? Maybe they felt, if enough of them said it, he would stay? Or maybe because it gave them a ready made excuse to leave, themselves, as in "the board lacked the ambition (to keep the manager), therefore I'm off as well". Until they have the courage to back their allegations up, with substance, it is, IMO, just mud slinging. Costa Baz
  • Score: 1

6:06pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Benali76 says...

Not sure if it means anything or if anyone cares about my unhealthy obsession with Betfair but here it is. The market for league handicap win, where each team starts with points depending on their predicted finishing points (Chelsea +0 Burnley +50 points Saints+34) had Saints floating around 32:1 before and after the Liverpool match but this afternoon dropped raidly to 20:1. That normally happens If someone has insider knowledge on something happening. A new major signing perhaps? Or possibly me wishing. Still I sold my 32:1 for 22:1 so I'm happy.
Not sure if it means anything or if anyone cares about my unhealthy obsession with Betfair but here it is. The market for league handicap win, where each team starts with points depending on their predicted finishing points (Chelsea +0 Burnley +50 points Saints+34) had Saints floating around 32:1 before and after the Liverpool match but this afternoon dropped raidly to 20:1. That normally happens If someone has insider knowledge on something happening. A new major signing perhaps? Or possibly me wishing. Still I sold my 32:1 for 22:1 so I'm happy. Benali76
  • Score: 1

6:16pm Tue 19 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Benali76 wrote:
Not sure if it means anything or if anyone cares about my unhealthy obsession with Betfair but here it is. The market for league handicap win, where each team starts with points depending on their predicted finishing points (Chelsea +0 Burnley +50 points Saints+34) had Saints floating around 32:1 before and after the Liverpool match but this afternoon dropped raidly to 20:1. That normally happens If someone has insider knowledge on something happening. A new major signing perhaps? Or possibly me wishing. Still I sold my 32:1 for 22:1 so I'm happy.
Let's hope your signing version is right or just that they also see the good that RK is doing.
[quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: Not sure if it means anything or if anyone cares about my unhealthy obsession with Betfair but here it is. The market for league handicap win, where each team starts with points depending on their predicted finishing points (Chelsea +0 Burnley +50 points Saints+34) had Saints floating around 32:1 before and after the Liverpool match but this afternoon dropped raidly to 20:1. That normally happens If someone has insider knowledge on something happening. A new major signing perhaps? Or possibly me wishing. Still I sold my 32:1 for 22:1 so I'm happy.[/p][/quote]Let's hope your signing version is right or just that they also see the good that RK is doing. fascia123
  • Score: 1

6:17pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

Benali76 wrote:
Not sure if it means anything or if anyone cares about my unhealthy obsession with Betfair but here it is. The market for league handicap win, where each team starts with points depending on their predicted finishing points (Chelsea +0 Burnley +50 points Saints+34) had Saints floating around 32:1 before and after the Liverpool match but this afternoon dropped raidly to 20:1. That normally happens If someone has insider knowledge on something happening. A new major signing perhaps? Or possibly me wishing. Still I sold my 32:1 for 22:1 so I'm happy.
It probably just means that a lot of other betfair addicts thought we were better than they had expected and put money on us.
[quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: Not sure if it means anything or if anyone cares about my unhealthy obsession with Betfair but here it is. The market for league handicap win, where each team starts with points depending on their predicted finishing points (Chelsea +0 Burnley +50 points Saints+34) had Saints floating around 32:1 before and after the Liverpool match but this afternoon dropped raidly to 20:1. That normally happens If someone has insider knowledge on something happening. A new major signing perhaps? Or possibly me wishing. Still I sold my 32:1 for 22:1 so I'm happy.[/p][/quote]It probably just means that a lot of other betfair addicts thought we were better than they had expected and put money on us. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

6:32pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Benali76 says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Benali76 wrote:
Not sure if it means anything or if anyone cares about my unhealthy obsession with Betfair but here it is. The market for league handicap win, where each team starts with points depending on their predicted finishing points (Chelsea +0 Burnley +50 points Saints+34) had Saints floating around 32:1 before and after the Liverpool match but this afternoon dropped raidly to 20:1. That normally happens If someone has insider knowledge on something happening. A new major signing perhaps? Or possibly me wishing. Still I sold my 32:1 for 22:1 so I'm happy.
It probably just means that a lot of other betfair addicts thought we were better than they had expected and put money on us.
Maybe, probably, but they took their time when you could pick up 30:1 Monday evening. Let me dream. In fact sod it, that price drop means for certain Bale is coming back with mate Ronaldo.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: Not sure if it means anything or if anyone cares about my unhealthy obsession with Betfair but here it is. The market for league handicap win, where each team starts with points depending on their predicted finishing points (Chelsea +0 Burnley +50 points Saints+34) had Saints floating around 32:1 before and after the Liverpool match but this afternoon dropped raidly to 20:1. That normally happens If someone has insider knowledge on something happening. A new major signing perhaps? Or possibly me wishing. Still I sold my 32:1 for 22:1 so I'm happy.[/p][/quote]It probably just means that a lot of other betfair addicts thought we were better than they had expected and put money on us.[/p][/quote]Maybe, probably, but they took their time when you could pick up 30:1 Monday evening. Let me dream. In fact sod it, that price drop means for certain Bale is coming back with mate Ronaldo. Benali76
  • Score: 2

6:38pm Tue 19 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Benali76 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Benali76 wrote:
Not sure if it means anything or if anyone cares about my unhealthy obsession with Betfair but here it is. The market for league handicap win, where each team starts with points depending on their predicted finishing points (Chelsea +0 Burnley +50 points Saints+34) had Saints floating around 32:1 before and after the Liverpool match but this afternoon dropped raidly to 20:1. That normally happens If someone has insider knowledge on something happening. A new major signing perhaps? Or possibly me wishing. Still I sold my 32:1 for 22:1 so I'm happy.
It probably just means that a lot of other betfair addicts thought we were better than they had expected and put money on us.
Maybe, probably, but they took their time when you could pick up 30:1 Monday evening. Let me dream. In fact sod it, that price drop means for certain Bale is coming back with mate Ronaldo.
That must be it one on each wing and RVP in middle.
[quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: Not sure if it means anything or if anyone cares about my unhealthy obsession with Betfair but here it is. The market for league handicap win, where each team starts with points depending on their predicted finishing points (Chelsea +0 Burnley +50 points Saints+34) had Saints floating around 32:1 before and after the Liverpool match but this afternoon dropped raidly to 20:1. That normally happens If someone has insider knowledge on something happening. A new major signing perhaps? Or possibly me wishing. Still I sold my 32:1 for 22:1 so I'm happy.[/p][/quote]It probably just means that a lot of other betfair addicts thought we were better than they had expected and put money on us.[/p][/quote]Maybe, probably, but they took their time when you could pick up 30:1 Monday evening. Let me dream. In fact sod it, that price drop means for certain Bale is coming back with mate Ronaldo.[/p][/quote]That must be it one on each wing and RVP in middle. fascia123
  • Score: 1

6:51pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Benali76 says...

fascia123 wrote:
Benali76 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Benali76 wrote:
Not sure if it means anything or if anyone cares about my unhealthy obsession with Betfair but here it is. The market for league handicap win, where each team starts with points depending on their predicted finishing points (Chelsea +0 Burnley +50 points Saints+34) had Saints floating around 32:1 before and after the Liverpool match but this afternoon dropped raidly to 20:1. That normally happens If someone has insider knowledge on something happening. A new major signing perhaps? Or possibly me wishing. Still I sold my 32:1 for 22:1 so I'm happy.
It probably just means that a lot of other betfair addicts thought we were better than they had expected and put money on us.
Maybe, probably, but they took their time when you could pick up 30:1 Monday evening. Let me dream. In fact sod it, that price drop means for certain Bale is coming back with mate Ronaldo.
That must be it one on each wing and RVP in middle.
Be sensible, he'll never get picked ahead of Neymar.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: Not sure if it means anything or if anyone cares about my unhealthy obsession with Betfair but here it is. The market for league handicap win, where each team starts with points depending on their predicted finishing points (Chelsea +0 Burnley +50 points Saints+34) had Saints floating around 32:1 before and after the Liverpool match but this afternoon dropped raidly to 20:1. That normally happens If someone has insider knowledge on something happening. A new major signing perhaps? Or possibly me wishing. Still I sold my 32:1 for 22:1 so I'm happy.[/p][/quote]It probably just means that a lot of other betfair addicts thought we were better than they had expected and put money on us.[/p][/quote]Maybe, probably, but they took their time when you could pick up 30:1 Monday evening. Let me dream. In fact sod it, that price drop means for certain Bale is coming back with mate Ronaldo.[/p][/quote]That must be it one on each wing and RVP in middle.[/p][/quote]Be sensible, he'll never get picked ahead of Neymar. Benali76
  • Score: 2

7:09pm Tue 19 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Benali76 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Benali76 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Benali76 wrote:
Not sure if it means anything or if anyone cares about my unhealthy obsession with Betfair but here it is. The market for league handicap win, where each team starts with points depending on their predicted finishing points (Chelsea +0 Burnley +50 points Saints+34) had Saints floating around 32:1 before and after the Liverpool match but this afternoon dropped raidly to 20:1. That normally happens If someone has insider knowledge on something happening. A new major signing perhaps? Or possibly me wishing. Still I sold my 32:1 for 22:1 so I'm happy.
It probably just means that a lot of other betfair addicts thought we were better than they had expected and put money on us.
Maybe, probably, but they took their time when you could pick up 30:1 Monday evening. Let me dream. In fact sod it, that price drop means for certain Bale is coming back with mate Ronaldo.
That must be it one on each wing and RVP in middle.
Be sensible, he'll never get picked ahead of Neymar.
And Messi warming the bench, if were not careful Brenda will come calling for some our stars not getting playing time.
[quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: Not sure if it means anything or if anyone cares about my unhealthy obsession with Betfair but here it is. The market for league handicap win, where each team starts with points depending on their predicted finishing points (Chelsea +0 Burnley +50 points Saints+34) had Saints floating around 32:1 before and after the Liverpool match but this afternoon dropped raidly to 20:1. That normally happens If someone has insider knowledge on something happening. A new major signing perhaps? Or possibly me wishing. Still I sold my 32:1 for 22:1 so I'm happy.[/p][/quote]It probably just means that a lot of other betfair addicts thought we were better than they had expected and put money on us.[/p][/quote]Maybe, probably, but they took their time when you could pick up 30:1 Monday evening. Let me dream. In fact sod it, that price drop means for certain Bale is coming back with mate Ronaldo.[/p][/quote]That must be it one on each wing and RVP in middle.[/p][/quote]Be sensible, he'll never get picked ahead of Neymar.[/p][/quote]And Messi warming the bench, if were not careful Brenda will come calling for some our stars not getting playing time. fascia123
  • Score: 3

8:08pm Tue 19 Aug 14

jls217 says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Tersites wrote:
Dear Sir / Madam,

I am writing to register my absolute and utter DISGUST at the "Ronald Koeman" cartoons on your website: http://www.theguardi






an.com/football/gall






ery/2014/aug/19/rona






ld-koeman-the-galler






y-southampton#/?pict






ure=444806438&in





dex=
7

This so called "humour" is an abomination! The pictures are highly insulting (linking Koeman to a cow!_) and I would suspect slanderous (calling Koeman a liar etc). No one allows racist or sexism, or anti-religious slander, so why, I'd sincerely like to know do you find publishing this sort of absolute venom against one man acceptable on your webpages? I would expect that there is possibly a case for legal action.

I've always been a reader and a fan of the Guardian newspaper, and am stunned and surprised that you would allow this to be published?

I look forward to the immediate removal of this page, and an expedient reply on how you can possibly justify this as 'humour' and allow this page to be published?

Regards,

Tommy.
Get over yourself - there are people being murdered for their religious beliefs on a mountainside in Iraq - NOW THAT SIR IS AN ABOMINATION. Also worthy of your absolute and utter DISGUST.

This is a football sipptake which should be taken with a pinch of salt and enjoyed - if you are capable of enjoyment that is. They don't have to justify anything to you. If you don't like it don't buy the paper or click off that page. Try to deny me a good sipptake and I may be tempted to make you the subect of my absolute and utter DISGUST and see what I can do to censor you out of the proceedings.
Yours slightly peeved.......... and still giggling.
Don't listen to him Tommy, the words of a man who openly likes JLS. Good on you son! I did the same.
Mate, it's just bants.
Reeaaalllllyyyyyy???


? :-P
Aye, what is life without bants? It's a subject that tortured Shakespeare for many years and drove him to pen his most moving passage: "I have of late,—but wherefore I know not,—lost all my bants, forgone all custom of exercises; and indeed it goes so heavily with my disposition that this goodly frame, the earth, seems to me a sterile promontory; this most excellent canopy, the air, look you, this brave o’erhanging firmament, this majestical roof fretted with golden fire, why, it appears no other thing to me but a foul and pestilent congregation of vapours."

So next time anyone gets all huffy about someone having a bit of a laugh then, you know, think on...
'Nuff said. Thanks St Van - might just have done enough for me to deflect the pins in the doll. Who are these joyless souls to argue with any man who can quote the immortal Bard. Or even the immortal one himself assuming that is a quote of course.
I was losing that one to some very serious souls indeed until you bailed me out.
Maybe I just have a warped sense of the ridiculous. I find something to laugh at in most situations and I'm sorry I found them satirical and funny. It will probably come as no great shock that I do not, as a rule, read the Guardian though I have used it to hold my fish and chips from time to time.
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tersites[/bold] wrote: Dear Sir / Madam, I am writing to register my absolute and utter DISGUST at the "Ronald Koeman" cartoons on your website: http://www.theguardi an.com/football/gall ery/2014/aug/19/rona ld-koeman-the-galler y-southampton#/?pict ure=444806438&in dex= 7 This so called "humour" is an abomination! The pictures are highly insulting (linking Koeman to a cow!_) and I would suspect slanderous (calling Koeman a liar etc). No one allows racist or sexism, or anti-religious slander, so why, I'd sincerely like to know do you find publishing this sort of absolute venom against one man acceptable on your webpages? I would expect that there is possibly a case for legal action. I've always been a reader and a fan of the Guardian newspaper, and am stunned and surprised that you would allow this to be published? I look forward to the immediate removal of this page, and an expedient reply on how you can possibly justify this as 'humour' and allow this page to be published? Regards, Tommy.[/p][/quote]Get over yourself - there are people being murdered for their religious beliefs on a mountainside in Iraq - NOW THAT SIR IS AN ABOMINATION. Also worthy of your absolute and utter DISGUST. This is a football sipptake which should be taken with a pinch of salt and enjoyed - if you are capable of enjoyment that is. They don't have to justify anything to you. If you don't like it don't buy the paper or click off that page. Try to deny me a good sipptake and I may be tempted to make you the subect of my absolute and utter DISGUST and see what I can do to censor you out of the proceedings. Yours slightly peeved.......... and still giggling.[/p][/quote]Don't listen to him Tommy, the words of a man who openly likes JLS. Good on you son! I did the same.[/p][/quote]Mate, it's just bants.[/p][/quote]Reeaaalllllyyyyyy??? ? :-P[/p][/quote]Aye, what is life without bants? It's a subject that tortured Shakespeare for many years and drove him to pen his most moving passage: "I have of late,—but wherefore I know not,—lost all my bants, forgone all custom of exercises; and indeed it goes so heavily with my disposition that this goodly frame, the earth, seems to me a sterile promontory; this most excellent canopy, the air, look you, this brave o’erhanging firmament, this majestical roof fretted with golden fire, why, it appears no other thing to me but a foul and pestilent congregation of vapours." So next time anyone gets all huffy about someone having a bit of a laugh then, you know, think on...[/p][/quote]'Nuff said. Thanks St Van - might just have done enough for me to deflect the pins in the doll. Who are these joyless souls to argue with any man who can quote the immortal Bard. Or even the immortal one himself assuming that is a quote of course. I was losing that one to some very serious souls indeed until you bailed me out. Maybe I just have a warped sense of the ridiculous. I find something to laugh at in most situations and I'm sorry I found them satirical and funny. It will probably come as no great shock that I do not, as a rule, read the Guardian though I have used it to hold my fish and chips from time to time. jls217
  • Score: 0

9:11pm Tue 19 Aug 14

St Van Roetford says...

jls217 wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Tersites wrote:
Dear Sir / Madam,

I am writing to register my absolute and utter DISGUST at the "Ronald Koeman" cartoons on your website: http://www.theguardi







an.com/football/gall







ery/2014/aug/19/rona







ld-koeman-the-galler







y-southampton#/?pict







ure=444806438&in






dex=
7

This so called "humour" is an abomination! The pictures are highly insulting (linking Koeman to a cow!_) and I would suspect slanderous (calling Koeman a liar etc). No one allows racist or sexism, or anti-religious slander, so why, I'd sincerely like to know do you find publishing this sort of absolute venom against one man acceptable on your webpages? I would expect that there is possibly a case for legal action.

I've always been a reader and a fan of the Guardian newspaper, and am stunned and surprised that you would allow this to be published?

I look forward to the immediate removal of this page, and an expedient reply on how you can possibly justify this as 'humour' and allow this page to be published?

Regards,

Tommy.
Get over yourself - there are people being murdered for their religious beliefs on a mountainside in Iraq - NOW THAT SIR IS AN ABOMINATION. Also worthy of your absolute and utter DISGUST.

This is a football sipptake which should be taken with a pinch of salt and enjoyed - if you are capable of enjoyment that is. They don't have to justify anything to you. If you don't like it don't buy the paper or click off that page. Try to deny me a good sipptake and I may be tempted to make you the subect of my absolute and utter DISGUST and see what I can do to censor you out of the proceedings.
Yours slightly peeved.......... and still giggling.
Don't listen to him Tommy, the words of a man who openly likes JLS. Good on you son! I did the same.
Mate, it's just bants.
Reeaaalllllyyyyyy???



? :-P
Aye, what is life without bants? It's a subject that tortured Shakespeare for many years and drove him to pen his most moving passage: "I have of late,—but wherefore I know not,—lost all my bants, forgone all custom of exercises; and indeed it goes so heavily with my disposition that this goodly frame, the earth, seems to me a sterile promontory; this most excellent canopy, the air, look you, this brave o’erhanging firmament, this majestical roof fretted with golden fire, why, it appears no other thing to me but a foul and pestilent congregation of vapours."

So next time anyone gets all huffy about someone having a bit of a laugh then, you know, think on...
'Nuff said. Thanks St Van - might just have done enough for me to deflect the pins in the doll. Who are these joyless souls to argue with any man who can quote the immortal Bard. Or even the immortal one himself assuming that is a quote of course.
I was losing that one to some very serious souls indeed until you bailed me out.
Maybe I just have a warped sense of the ridiculous. I find something to laugh at in most situations and I'm sorry I found them satirical and funny. It will probably come as no great shock that I do not, as a rule, read the Guardian though I have used it to hold my fish and chips from time to time.
Innit. Football (to me, at any rate) is meant to be a bit of a laugh. I go to a lot of games and regardless of the result usually come away having howled with laughter after listening to people completely rip the p1ss out of a bunch of overpaid millionaires and their fans. We can't go getting all pissy when it happens to us. In fact, it would be worse if that never happened as it would mean people are feeling sorry for us, and that's one thing I'll never accept.

We are Southampton. We applaud good bants and give it back in spades. Long may it continue.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tersites[/bold] wrote: Dear Sir / Madam, I am writing to register my absolute and utter DISGUST at the "Ronald Koeman" cartoons on your website: http://www.theguardi an.com/football/gall ery/2014/aug/19/rona ld-koeman-the-galler y-southampton#/?pict ure=444806438&in dex= 7 This so called "humour" is an abomination! The pictures are highly insulting (linking Koeman to a cow!_) and I would suspect slanderous (calling Koeman a liar etc). No one allows racist or sexism, or anti-religious slander, so why, I'd sincerely like to know do you find publishing this sort of absolute venom against one man acceptable on your webpages? I would expect that there is possibly a case for legal action. I've always been a reader and a fan of the Guardian newspaper, and am stunned and surprised that you would allow this to be published? I look forward to the immediate removal of this page, and an expedient reply on how you can possibly justify this as 'humour' and allow this page to be published? Regards, Tommy.[/p][/quote]Get over yourself - there are people being murdered for their religious beliefs on a mountainside in Iraq - NOW THAT SIR IS AN ABOMINATION. Also worthy of your absolute and utter DISGUST. This is a football sipptake which should be taken with a pinch of salt and enjoyed - if you are capable of enjoyment that is. They don't have to justify anything to you. If you don't like it don't buy the paper or click off that page. Try to deny me a good sipptake and I may be tempted to make you the subect of my absolute and utter DISGUST and see what I can do to censor you out of the proceedings. Yours slightly peeved.......... and still giggling.[/p][/quote]Don't listen to him Tommy, the words of a man who openly likes JLS. Good on you son! I did the same.[/p][/quote]Mate, it's just bants.[/p][/quote]Reeaaalllllyyyyyy??? ? :-P[/p][/quote]Aye, what is life without bants? It's a subject that tortured Shakespeare for many years and drove him to pen his most moving passage: "I have of late,—but wherefore I know not,—lost all my bants, forgone all custom of exercises; and indeed it goes so heavily with my disposition that this goodly frame, the earth, seems to me a sterile promontory; this most excellent canopy, the air, look you, this brave o’erhanging firmament, this majestical roof fretted with golden fire, why, it appears no other thing to me but a foul and pestilent congregation of vapours." So next time anyone gets all huffy about someone having a bit of a laugh then, you know, think on...[/p][/quote]'Nuff said. Thanks St Van - might just have done enough for me to deflect the pins in the doll. Who are these joyless souls to argue with any man who can quote the immortal Bard. Or even the immortal one himself assuming that is a quote of course. I was losing that one to some very serious souls indeed until you bailed me out. Maybe I just have a warped sense of the ridiculous. I find something to laugh at in most situations and I'm sorry I found them satirical and funny. It will probably come as no great shock that I do not, as a rule, read the Guardian though I have used it to hold my fish and chips from time to time.[/p][/quote]Innit. Football (to me, at any rate) is meant to be a bit of a laugh. I go to a lot of games and regardless of the result usually come away having howled with laughter after listening to people completely rip the p1ss out of a bunch of overpaid millionaires and their fans. We can't go getting all pissy when it happens to us. In fact, it would be worse if that never happened as it would mean people are feeling sorry for us, and that's one thing I'll never accept. We are Southampton. We applaud good bants and give it back in spades. Long may it continue. St Van Roetford
  • Score: 2

9:17pm Tue 19 Aug 14

St Van Roetford says...

costa gaz wrote:
Just an observation, but there seems to have been a lot of new posters joined since the end of last season, and we are missing quite a lot of our old regulars.

I know there were name changes that were explained.
The ones who do not post anymore were the ''Cortese appreciation society'', Cortese was like a demi-god to these posters and any one who critisied him was shot down in flames.
The new ones are now very anti Cortese and support the current board and any one who dares critise the board are shot down in flames..... Coincidence. I think not.

The ''new'' posters are all very vocal and have a gang mentality, jog anyones memory???

I don't normally do theories, but this one intrigues me.
I think a lot of the old posters gave up because the negativity on here got ridiculous. They're mainly all still on the Facebook page, I think.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Just an observation, but there seems to have been a lot of new posters joined since the end of last season, and we are missing quite a lot of our old regulars. I know there were name changes that were explained. The ones who do not post anymore were the ''Cortese appreciation society'', Cortese was like a demi-god to these posters and any one who critisied him was shot down in flames. The new ones are now very anti Cortese and support the current board and any one who dares critise the board are shot down in flames..... Coincidence. I think not. The ''new'' posters are all very vocal and have a gang mentality, jog anyones memory??? I don't normally do theories, but this one intrigues me.[/p][/quote]I think a lot of the old posters gave up because the negativity on here got ridiculous. They're mainly all still on the Facebook page, I think. St Van Roetford
  • Score: 4

9:20pm Tue 19 Aug 14

TPFKARTSNINZ says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
jls217 wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Tersites wrote:
Dear Sir / Madam,

I am writing to register my absolute and utter DISGUST at the "Ronald Koeman" cartoons on your website: http://www.theguardi








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This so called "humour" is an abomination! The pictures are highly insulting (linking Koeman to a cow!_) and I would suspect slanderous (calling Koeman a liar etc). No one allows racist or sexism, or anti-religious slander, so why, I'd sincerely like to know do you find publishing this sort of absolute venom against one man acceptable on your webpages? I would expect that there is possibly a case for legal action.

I've always been a reader and a fan of the Guardian newspaper, and am stunned and surprised that you would allow this to be published?

I look forward to the immediate removal of this page, and an expedient reply on how you can possibly justify this as 'humour' and allow this page to be published?

Regards,

Tommy.
Get over yourself - there are people being murdered for their religious beliefs on a mountainside in Iraq - NOW THAT SIR IS AN ABOMINATION. Also worthy of your absolute and utter DISGUST.

This is a football sipptake which should be taken with a pinch of salt and enjoyed - if you are capable of enjoyment that is. They don't have to justify anything to you. If you don't like it don't buy the paper or click off that page. Try to deny me a good sipptake and I may be tempted to make you the subect of my absolute and utter DISGUST and see what I can do to censor you out of the proceedings.
Yours slightly peeved.......... and still giggling.
Don't listen to him Tommy, the words of a man who openly likes JLS. Good on you son! I did the same.
Mate, it's just bants.
Reeaaalllllyyyyyy???




? :-P
Aye, what is life without bants? It's a subject that tortured Shakespeare for many years and drove him to pen his most moving passage: "I have of late,—but wherefore I know not,—lost all my bants, forgone all custom of exercises; and indeed it goes so heavily with my disposition that this goodly frame, the earth, seems to me a sterile promontory; this most excellent canopy, the air, look you, this brave o’erhanging firmament, this majestical roof fretted with golden fire, why, it appears no other thing to me but a foul and pestilent congregation of vapours."

So next time anyone gets all huffy about someone having a bit of a laugh then, you know, think on...
'Nuff said. Thanks St Van - might just have done enough for me to deflect the pins in the doll. Who are these joyless souls to argue with any man who can quote the immortal Bard. Or even the immortal one himself assuming that is a quote of course.
I was losing that one to some very serious souls indeed until you bailed me out.
Maybe I just have a warped sense of the ridiculous. I find something to laugh at in most situations and I'm sorry I found them satirical and funny. It will probably come as no great shock that I do not, as a rule, read the Guardian though I have used it to hold my fish and chips from time to time.
Innit. Football (to me, at any rate) is meant to be a bit of a laugh. I go to a lot of games and regardless of the result usually come away having howled with laughter after listening to people completely rip the p1ss out of a bunch of overpaid millionaires and their fans. We can't go getting all pissy when it happens to us. In fact, it would be worse if that never happened as it would mean people are feeling sorry for us, and that's one thing I'll never accept.

We are Southampton. We applaud good bants and give it back in spades. Long may it continue.
Is this our new song for this season? Not too catchy, needs a bit of work I think. A bit long winded.
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tersites[/bold] wrote: Dear Sir / Madam, I am writing to register my absolute and utter DISGUST at the "Ronald Koeman" cartoons on your website: http://www.theguardi an.com/football/gall ery/2014/aug/19/rona ld-koeman-the-galler y-southampton#/?pict ure=444806438&in dex= 7 This so called "humour" is an abomination! The pictures are highly insulting (linking Koeman to a cow!_) and I would suspect slanderous (calling Koeman a liar etc). No one allows racist or sexism, or anti-religious slander, so why, I'd sincerely like to know do you find publishing this sort of absolute venom against one man acceptable on your webpages? I would expect that there is possibly a case for legal action. I've always been a reader and a fan of the Guardian newspaper, and am stunned and surprised that you would allow this to be published? I look forward to the immediate removal of this page, and an expedient reply on how you can possibly justify this as 'humour' and allow this page to be published? Regards, Tommy.[/p][/quote]Get over yourself - there are people being murdered for their religious beliefs on a mountainside in Iraq - NOW THAT SIR IS AN ABOMINATION. Also worthy of your absolute and utter DISGUST. This is a football sipptake which should be taken with a pinch of salt and enjoyed - if you are capable of enjoyment that is. They don't have to justify anything to you. If you don't like it don't buy the paper or click off that page. Try to deny me a good sipptake and I may be tempted to make you the subect of my absolute and utter DISGUST and see what I can do to censor you out of the proceedings. Yours slightly peeved.......... and still giggling.[/p][/quote]Don't listen to him Tommy, the words of a man who openly likes JLS. Good on you son! I did the same.[/p][/quote]Mate, it's just bants.[/p][/quote]Reeaaalllllyyyyyy??? ? :-P[/p][/quote]Aye, what is life without bants? It's a subject that tortured Shakespeare for many years and drove him to pen his most moving passage: "I have of late,—but wherefore I know not,—lost all my bants, forgone all custom of exercises; and indeed it goes so heavily with my disposition that this goodly frame, the earth, seems to me a sterile promontory; this most excellent canopy, the air, look you, this brave o’erhanging firmament, this majestical roof fretted with golden fire, why, it appears no other thing to me but a foul and pestilent congregation of vapours." So next time anyone gets all huffy about someone having a bit of a laugh then, you know, think on...[/p][/quote]'Nuff said. Thanks St Van - might just have done enough for me to deflect the pins in the doll. Who are these joyless souls to argue with any man who can quote the immortal Bard. Or even the immortal one himself assuming that is a quote of course. I was losing that one to some very serious souls indeed until you bailed me out. Maybe I just have a warped sense of the ridiculous. I find something to laugh at in most situations and I'm sorry I found them satirical and funny. It will probably come as no great shock that I do not, as a rule, read the Guardian though I have used it to hold my fish and chips from time to time.[/p][/quote]Innit. Football (to me, at any rate) is meant to be a bit of a laugh. I go to a lot of games and regardless of the result usually come away having howled with laughter after listening to people completely rip the p1ss out of a bunch of overpaid millionaires and their fans. We can't go getting all pissy when it happens to us. In fact, it would be worse if that never happened as it would mean people are feeling sorry for us, and that's one thing I'll never accept. We are Southampton. We applaud good bants and give it back in spades. Long may it continue.[/p][/quote]Is this our new song for this season? Not too catchy, needs a bit of work I think. A bit long winded. TPFKARTSNINZ
  • Score: 1

9:21pm Tue 19 Aug 14

thinklikealocal says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Just an observation, but there seems to have been a lot of new posters joined since the end of last season, and we are missing quite a lot of our old regulars.

I know there were name changes that were explained.
The ones who do not post anymore were the ''Cortese appreciation society'', Cortese was like a demi-god to these posters and any one who critisied him was shot down in flames.
The new ones are now very anti Cortese and support the current board and any one who dares critise the board are shot down in flames..... Coincidence. I think not.

The ''new'' posters are all very vocal and have a gang mentality, jog anyones memory???

I don't normally do theories, but this one intrigues me.
I think a lot of the old posters gave up because the negativity on here got ridiculous. They're mainly all still on the Facebook page, I think.
I don't normally do theories? Strike a light! I think of you as 'costa theory'.... Lol

Using words in your post like coincidence I think nit is, well, putting together a 'theory'. You are absolutely hilarious haha.
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Just an observation, but there seems to have been a lot of new posters joined since the end of last season, and we are missing quite a lot of our old regulars. I know there were name changes that were explained. The ones who do not post anymore were the ''Cortese appreciation society'', Cortese was like a demi-god to these posters and any one who critisied him was shot down in flames. The new ones are now very anti Cortese and support the current board and any one who dares critise the board are shot down in flames..... Coincidence. I think not. The ''new'' posters are all very vocal and have a gang mentality, jog anyones memory??? I don't normally do theories, but this one intrigues me.[/p][/quote]I think a lot of the old posters gave up because the negativity on here got ridiculous. They're mainly all still on the Facebook page, I think.[/p][/quote]I don't normally do theories? Strike a light! I think of you as 'costa theory'.... Lol Using words in your post like coincidence I think nit is, well, putting together a 'theory'. You are absolutely hilarious haha. thinklikealocal
  • Score: 4

9:33pm Tue 19 Aug 14

derek james says...

ricky's "ambition" is to spend 80 minutes of each game warming the sub's bench? he might have been better off staying at sfc
ricky's "ambition" is to spend 80 minutes of each game warming the sub's bench? he might have been better off staying at sfc derek james
  • Score: 2

10:10pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

jls217 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
Bernadette M. Nicholas wrote:
my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out
http://x.co/5Hkqe
How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else!

Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.
It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.
I did and they didn't.
Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't.
This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman...
Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us.
If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.
whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??
It's a little poke at the same people who keep blaming the press for everything T.
The press get blamed, Steve Gerrard got blamed, Roy Hodgson the list is endless.
Today I read that Pochettino was tapped up by .... wait for it.... Osvaldo Ardilles.

Yet an ex-employee, who would probably know what went on, suggested where the blame lies and its viewed as blasphemy.
Yes an ex employee has "suggested", where the blame lies, but yet again, like all the others he doesn't have the balls to back up his suggestion with actual evidence.

Nor does he have the balls to put forward his reasons why he, and the others, thought the board's ambition wasn't in keeping with that of the players. Maybe that is because the players aren't sure the fans would take their side, if they put it out there?

I think the reference, in comments put out by the board, to some players wishing to take short cuts, to European football, is key.
But didn't they all come out publicly when Cortese left,and say they didn't want MoPo to leave.Not trying to score points here by the way,but I seem to remember that happening?
I too remember everyone no matter how distantly linked to the club saying the same thing. If we'd known what the two tongued **** was saying in other circles it might have been us wanting him out.
Not really seeing your point - maybe I'm a little dim.
Sorry jls,I was down the pub..see my 1.48 pm post.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bernadette M. Nicholas[/bold] wrote: my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out http://x.co/5Hkqe[/p][/quote]How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else! Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.[/p][/quote]It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.[/p][/quote]I did and they didn't.[/p][/quote]Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't. This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman... Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us. If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.[/p][/quote]whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??[/p][/quote]It's a little poke at the same people who keep blaming the press for everything T. The press get blamed, Steve Gerrard got blamed, Roy Hodgson the list is endless. Today I read that Pochettino was tapped up by .... wait for it.... Osvaldo Ardilles. Yet an ex-employee, who would probably know what went on, suggested where the blame lies and its viewed as blasphemy.[/p][/quote]Yes an ex employee has "suggested", where the blame lies, but yet again, like all the others he doesn't have the balls to back up his suggestion with actual evidence. Nor does he have the balls to put forward his reasons why he, and the others, thought the board's ambition wasn't in keeping with that of the players. Maybe that is because the players aren't sure the fans would take their side, if they put it out there? I think the reference, in comments put out by the board, to some players wishing to take short cuts, to European football, is key.[/p][/quote]But didn't they all come out publicly when Cortese left,and say they didn't want MoPo to leave.Not trying to score points here by the way,but I seem to remember that happening?[/p][/quote]I too remember everyone no matter how distantly linked to the club saying the same thing. If we'd known what the two tongued **** was saying in other circles it might have been us wanting him out. Not really seeing your point - maybe I'm a little dim.[/p][/quote]Sorry jls,I was down the pub..see my 1.48 pm post. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

10:18pm Tue 19 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

derek james wrote:
ricky's "ambition" is to spend 80 minutes of each game warming the sub's bench? he might have been better off staying at sfc
Just taken this from sky, you could be right.


Brendan Rodgers wants to sign another striker before the transfer window closes and L'Equipe reports that Liverpool are keeping an eye on Paris St Germain's Ezequiel Lavezzi. PSG need to sell in order to bring in new signings and Lavezzi could be one of the players offloaded. Liverpool also recently made an enquiry for Monaco striker Radamel Falcao.
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: ricky's "ambition" is to spend 80 minutes of each game warming the sub's bench? he might have been better off staying at sfc[/p][/quote]Just taken this from sky, you could be right. Brendan Rodgers wants to sign another striker before the transfer window closes and L'Equipe reports that Liverpool are keeping an eye on Paris St Germain's Ezequiel Lavezzi. PSG need to sell in order to bring in new signings and Lavezzi could be one of the players offloaded. Liverpool also recently made an enquiry for Monaco striker Radamel Falcao. fascia123
  • Score: 1

10:43pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Costa Baz says...

costa gaz wrote:
Just an observation, but there seems to have been a lot of new posters joined since the end of last season, and we are missing quite a lot of our old regulars.

I know there were name changes that were explained.
The ones who do not post anymore were the ''Cortese appreciation society'', Cortese was like a demi-god to these posters and any one who critisied him was shot down in flames.
The new ones are now very anti Cortese and support the current board and any one who dares critise the board are shot down in flames..... Coincidence. I think not.

The ''new'' posters are all very vocal and have a gang mentality, jog anyones memory???

I don't normally do theories, but this one intrigues me.
Feeling lonely? Or are you distancing yourself, from them?
The way you've been slating the board, I thought you WERE one of the Cortese appreciation society.

I'm sure they'll be back, if we have a bad run of form, or if Morgan agitates enough to force a move.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Just an observation, but there seems to have been a lot of new posters joined since the end of last season, and we are missing quite a lot of our old regulars. I know there were name changes that were explained. The ones who do not post anymore were the ''Cortese appreciation society'', Cortese was like a demi-god to these posters and any one who critisied him was shot down in flames. The new ones are now very anti Cortese and support the current board and any one who dares critise the board are shot down in flames..... Coincidence. I think not. The ''new'' posters are all very vocal and have a gang mentality, jog anyones memory??? I don't normally do theories, but this one intrigues me.[/p][/quote]Feeling lonely? Or are you distancing yourself, from them? The way you've been slating the board, I thought you WERE one of the Cortese appreciation society. I'm sure they'll be back, if we have a bad run of form, or if Morgan agitates enough to force a move. Costa Baz
  • Score: 6

10:53pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Costa Baz wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
Bernadette M. Nicholas wrote:
my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out
http://x.co/5Hkqe
How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else!

Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.
It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.
I did and they didn't.
Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't.
This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman...
Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us.
If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.
whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??
It's a little poke at the same people who keep blaming the press for everything T.
The press get blamed, Steve Gerrard got blamed, Roy Hodgson the list is endless.
Today I read that Pochettino was tapped up by .... wait for it.... Osvaldo Ardilles.

Yet an ex-employee, who would probably know what went on, suggested where the blame lies and its viewed as blasphemy.
Yes an ex employee has "suggested", where the blame lies, but yet again, like all the others he doesn't have the balls to back up his suggestion with actual evidence.

Nor does he have the balls to put forward his reasons why he, and the others, thought the board's ambition wasn't in keeping with that of the players. Maybe that is because the players aren't sure the fans would take their side, if they put it out there?

I think the reference, in comments put out by the board, to some players wishing to take short cuts, to European football, is key.
But didn't they all come out publicly when Cortese left,and say they didn't want MoPo to leave.Not trying to score points here by the way,but I seem to remember that happening?
Yes they did say that, and the board made him and his staff a very good offer, to stay.
I think it was Seedhouse, through his conversations with Jesus Perez, who said they were actually split on taking the offer, so it couldn't have been that shabby an offer.

All I would like is for those claiming lack of ambition, by the board, as a reason for leaving the club, to put there reasons for saying this, into the public forum, so we can make our own decisions.
But why would they have stated publicly that they wanted him to stay,if they (supposedly)already knew he was going to leave?
Coming out,and saying they wanted him to stay,suggests to me that they were prepared to stay under his leadership,and continue the dream that ML & NC had envisaged for the club,and that maybe not all off them were money grabbing mercenaries.
If they felt afterwards that they had then been sold down the river,by a board who didn't wish to pursue that dream any longer(for whatever reason),it would be perfectly reasonable for some of them to have then decided to ply their trade elsewhere, without being judged disloyal.
In the first instance, I haven't referred to any of them, that left, as "money grabbing mercenaries".
All I have suggested is that one or more of them that have left, using the "lack of ambition, by the board" as their reason, for leaving, might like to explain why they think the board lacks ambition.

Why would they say they wanted MP to stay, if they already knew he was leaving?
Maybe they felt, if enough of them said it, he would stay?
Or maybe because it gave them a ready made excuse to leave, themselves, as in "the board lacked the ambition (to keep the manager), therefore I'm off as well".

Until they have the courage to back their allegations up, with substance, it is, IMO, just mud slinging.
I didn't say that you said they were money grabbing mercenaries Baz,those were my words.
I don't know why they used "lack of ambition" as their reason for leaving,but they did,so who am I to disagree,unless I subscribe to fascia's "conspiracy theory"..which I dont.
Lambert just said what he thought happened,and gave it as the reason for the departure of some of his team mates;a straight forward answer,to a straightforward question..that's not mudslinging.I don't think for one minute that he himself,left for the clubs lack of ambition,just his own personal wish to fulfill a boyhood dream,that would have slipped from his grasp,had he not taken the chance when it was offered.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bernadette M. Nicholas[/bold] wrote: my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out http://x.co/5Hkqe[/p][/quote]How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else! Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.[/p][/quote]It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.[/p][/quote]I did and they didn't.[/p][/quote]Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't. This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman... Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us. If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.[/p][/quote]whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??[/p][/quote]It's a little poke at the same people who keep blaming the press for everything T. The press get blamed, Steve Gerrard got blamed, Roy Hodgson the list is endless. Today I read that Pochettino was tapped up by .... wait for it.... Osvaldo Ardilles. Yet an ex-employee, who would probably know what went on, suggested where the blame lies and its viewed as blasphemy.[/p][/quote]Yes an ex employee has "suggested", where the blame lies, but yet again, like all the others he doesn't have the balls to back up his suggestion with actual evidence. Nor does he have the balls to put forward his reasons why he, and the others, thought the board's ambition wasn't in keeping with that of the players. Maybe that is because the players aren't sure the fans would take their side, if they put it out there? I think the reference, in comments put out by the board, to some players wishing to take short cuts, to European football, is key.[/p][/quote]But didn't they all come out publicly when Cortese left,and say they didn't want MoPo to leave.Not trying to score points here by the way,but I seem to remember that happening?[/p][/quote]Yes they did say that, and the board made him and his staff a very good offer, to stay. I think it was Seedhouse, through his conversations with Jesus Perez, who said they were actually split on taking the offer, so it couldn't have been that shabby an offer. All I would like is for those claiming lack of ambition, by the board, as a reason for leaving the club, to put there reasons for saying this, into the public forum, so we can make our own decisions.[/p][/quote]But why would they have stated publicly that they wanted him to stay,if they (supposedly)already knew he was going to leave? Coming out,and saying they wanted him to stay,suggests to me that they were prepared to stay under his leadership,and continue the dream that ML & NC had envisaged for the club,and that maybe not all off them were money grabbing mercenaries. If they felt afterwards that they had then been sold down the river,by a board who didn't wish to pursue that dream any longer(for whatever reason),it would be perfectly reasonable for some of them to have then decided to ply their trade elsewhere, without being judged disloyal.[/p][/quote]In the first instance, I haven't referred to any of them, that left, as "money grabbing mercenaries". All I have suggested is that one or more of them that have left, using the "lack of ambition, by the board" as their reason, for leaving, might like to explain why they think the board lacks ambition. Why would they say they wanted MP to stay, if they already knew he was leaving? Maybe they felt, if enough of them said it, he would stay? Or maybe because it gave them a ready made excuse to leave, themselves, as in "the board lacked the ambition (to keep the manager), therefore I'm off as well". Until they have the courage to back their allegations up, with substance, it is, IMO, just mud slinging.[/p][/quote]I didn't say that you said they were money grabbing mercenaries Baz,those were my words. I don't know why they used "lack of ambition" as their reason for leaving,but they did,so who am I to disagree,unless I subscribe to fascia's "conspiracy theory"..which I dont. Lambert just said what he thought happened,and gave it as the reason for the departure of some of his team mates;a straight forward answer,to a straightforward question..that's not mudslinging.I don't think for one minute that he himself,left for the clubs lack of ambition,just his own personal wish to fulfill a boyhood dream,that would have slipped from his grasp,had he not taken the chance when it was offered. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: -1

11:42pm Tue 19 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
Bernadette M. Nicholas wrote:
my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out
http://x.co/5Hkqe
How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else!

Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.
It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.
I did and they didn't.
Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't.
This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman...
Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us.
If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.
whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??
It's a little poke at the same people who keep blaming the press for everything T.
The press get blamed, Steve Gerrard got blamed, Roy Hodgson the list is endless.
Today I read that Pochettino was tapped up by .... wait for it.... Osvaldo Ardilles.

Yet an ex-employee, who would probably know what went on, suggested where the blame lies and its viewed as blasphemy.
Yes an ex employee has "suggested", where the blame lies, but yet again, like all the others he doesn't have the balls to back up his suggestion with actual evidence.

Nor does he have the balls to put forward his reasons why he, and the others, thought the board's ambition wasn't in keeping with that of the players. Maybe that is because the players aren't sure the fans would take their side, if they put it out there?

I think the reference, in comments put out by the board, to some players wishing to take short cuts, to European football, is key.
But didn't they all come out publicly when Cortese left,and say they didn't want MoPo to leave.Not trying to score points here by the way,but I seem to remember that happening?
Yes they did say that, and the board made him and his staff a very good offer, to stay.
I think it was Seedhouse, through his conversations with Jesus Perez, who said they were actually split on taking the offer, so it couldn't have been that shabby an offer.

All I would like is for those claiming lack of ambition, by the board, as a reason for leaving the club, to put there reasons for saying this, into the public forum, so we can make our own decisions.
But why would they have stated publicly that they wanted him to stay,if they (supposedly)already knew he was going to leave?
Coming out,and saying they wanted him to stay,suggests to me that they were prepared to stay under his leadership,and continue the dream that ML & NC had envisaged for the club,and that maybe not all off them were money grabbing mercenaries.
If they felt afterwards that they had then been sold down the river,by a board who didn't wish to pursue that dream any longer(for whatever reason),it would be perfectly reasonable for some of them to have then decided to ply their trade elsewhere, without being judged disloyal.
In the first instance, I haven't referred to any of them, that left, as "money grabbing mercenaries".
All I have suggested is that one or more of them that have left, using the "lack of ambition, by the board" as their reason, for leaving, might like to explain why they think the board lacks ambition.

Why would they say they wanted MP to stay, if they already knew he was leaving?
Maybe they felt, if enough of them said it, he would stay?
Or maybe because it gave them a ready made excuse to leave, themselves, as in "the board lacked the ambition (to keep the manager), therefore I'm off as well".

Until they have the courage to back their allegations up, with substance, it is, IMO, just mud slinging.
I didn't say that you said they were money grabbing mercenaries Baz,those were my words.
I don't know why they used "lack of ambition" as their reason for leaving,but they did,so who am I to disagree,unless I subscribe to fascia's "conspiracy theory"..which I dont.
Lambert just said what he thought happened,and gave it as the reason for the departure of some of his team mates;a straight forward answer,to a straightforward question..that's not mudslinging.I don't think for one minute that he himself,left for the clubs lack of ambition,just his own personal wish to fulfill a boyhood dream,that would have slipped from his grasp,had he not taken the chance when it was offered.
Eh, don't start on me and my theories, to me they make a hell of a lot more sense than half the stuff on here, ha ha.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bernadette M. Nicholas[/bold] wrote: my Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning gold Audi A6 by working online from home... check this site out http://x.co/5Hkqe[/p][/quote]How do these ridiculous adverts get "ACCEPTED" by the Echo's vetting system! This is the Saints' comments site - nothing else! Just sheer nonsense. Echo please just say NOT ACCEPTED.[/p][/quote]It would be wiser not to quote them, the Echo will remove the original, but it will be perpetuated because you did. Just report them and they will disappear.[/p][/quote]I did and they didn't.[/p][/quote]Yes Echo how very dare you allow SPAM to get through your system. If you support the Saints like us then you should have stopped it, obviously you don't. This spam is another way of having a dig at us, just like the Guardians bit about Koeman... Disgusting behaviour by the press yet again. They must really hate us. If I were some of you I would write a strongly worded e-mail to the said publications, demanding an apology.[/p][/quote]whats with the dig at me boy? thought saints fans would be on the same page??[/p][/quote]It's a little poke at the same people who keep blaming the press for everything T. The press get blamed, Steve Gerrard got blamed, Roy Hodgson the list is endless. Today I read that Pochettino was tapped up by .... wait for it.... Osvaldo Ardilles. Yet an ex-employee, who would probably know what went on, suggested where the blame lies and its viewed as blasphemy.[/p][/quote]Yes an ex employee has "suggested", where the blame lies, but yet again, like all the others he doesn't have the balls to back up his suggestion with actual evidence. Nor does he have the balls to put forward his reasons why he, and the others, thought the board's ambition wasn't in keeping with that of the players. Maybe that is because the players aren't sure the fans would take their side, if they put it out there? I think the reference, in comments put out by the board, to some players wishing to take short cuts, to European football, is key.[/p][/quote]But didn't they all come out publicly when Cortese left,and say they didn't want MoPo to leave.Not trying to score points here by the way,but I seem to remember that happening?[/p][/quote]Yes they did say that, and the board made him and his staff a very good offer, to stay. I think it was Seedhouse, through his conversations with Jesus Perez, who said they were actually split on taking the offer, so it couldn't have been that shabby an offer. All I would like is for those claiming lack of ambition, by the board, as a reason for leaving the club, to put there reasons for saying this, into the public forum, so we can make our own decisions.[/p][/quote]But why would they have stated publicly that they wanted him to stay,if they (supposedly)already knew he was going to leave? Coming out,and saying they wanted him to stay,suggests to me that they were prepared to stay under his leadership,and continue the dream that ML & NC had envisaged for the club,and that maybe not all off them were money grabbing mercenaries. If they felt afterwards that they had then been sold down the river,by a board who didn't wish to pursue that dream any longer(for whatever reason),it would be perfectly reasonable for some of them to have then decided to ply their trade elsewhere, without being judged disloyal.[/p][/quote]In the first instance, I haven't referred to any of them, that left, as "money grabbing mercenaries". All I have suggested is that one or more of them that have left, using the "lack of ambition, by the board" as their reason, for leaving, might like to explain why they think the board lacks ambition. Why would they say they wanted MP to stay, if they already knew he was leaving? Maybe they felt, if enough of them said it, he would stay? Or maybe because it gave them a ready made excuse to leave, themselves, as in "the board lacked the ambition (to keep the manager), therefore I'm off as well". Until they have the courage to back their allegations up, with substance, it is, IMO, just mud slinging.[/p][/quote]I didn't say that you said they were money grabbing mercenaries Baz,those were my words. I don't know why they used "lack of ambition" as their reason for leaving,but they did,so who am I to disagree,unless I subscribe to fascia's "conspiracy theory"..which I dont. Lambert just said what he thought happened,and gave it as the reason for the departure of some of his team mates;a straight forward answer,to a straightforward question..that's not mudslinging.I don't think for one minute that he himself,left for the clubs lack of ambition,just his own personal wish to fulfill a boyhood dream,that would have slipped from his grasp,had he not taken the chance when it was offered.[/p][/quote]Eh, don't start on me and my theories, to me they make a hell of a lot more sense than half the stuff on here, ha ha. fascia123
  • Score: 3

11:44pm Tue 19 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

costa gaz wrote:
Just an observation, but there seems to have been a lot of new posters joined since the end of last season, and we are missing quite a lot of our old regulars.

I know there were name changes that were explained.
The ones who do not post anymore were the ''Cortese appreciation society'', Cortese was like a demi-god to these posters and any one who critisied him was shot down in flames.
The new ones are now very anti Cortese and support the current board and any one who dares critise the board are shot down in flames..... Coincidence. I think not.

The ''new'' posters are all very vocal and have a gang mentality, jog anyones memory???

I don't normally do theories, but this one intrigues me.
One thing for sure is that I haven't changed or intend to use a different sign-on despite opinions that beg to differ, But I wish one of you would I keep "slagging" off the wrong one!
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Just an observation, but there seems to have been a lot of new posters joined since the end of last season, and we are missing quite a lot of our old regulars. I know there were name changes that were explained. The ones who do not post anymore were the ''Cortese appreciation society'', Cortese was like a demi-god to these posters and any one who critisied him was shot down in flames. The new ones are now very anti Cortese and support the current board and any one who dares critise the board are shot down in flames..... Coincidence. I think not. The ''new'' posters are all very vocal and have a gang mentality, jog anyones memory??? I don't normally do theories, but this one intrigues me.[/p][/quote]One thing for sure is that I haven't changed or intend to use a different sign-on despite opinions that beg to differ, But I wish one of you would I keep "slagging" off the wrong one! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

2:36am Wed 20 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Just an observation, but there seems to have been a lot of new posters joined since the end of last season, and we are missing quite a lot of our old regulars.

I know there were name changes that were explained.
The ones who do not post anymore were the ''Cortese appreciation society'', Cortese was like a demi-god to these posters and any one who critisied him was shot down in flames.
The new ones are now very anti Cortese and support the current board and any one who dares critise the board are shot down in flames..... Coincidence. I think not.

The ''new'' posters are all very vocal and have a gang mentality, jog anyones memory???

I don't normally do theories, but this one intrigues me.
One thing for sure is that I haven't changed or intend to use a different sign-on despite opinions that beg to differ, But I wish one of you would I keep "slagging" off the wrong one!
Osprey this great conspiracy theory of Gaz's is very funny don't you think?
He wasn't saying the same when loads of new posters spouted negative carp for weeks on end, telling the likes of you and me to 'shut up' 'go away' and claiming we weren't real fans! The new negative poster were the most vocal of all with some saying very derogatory remarks about les reed, Ralph and KL. Most of those logins were the same person who has since been banned, for the second time. The neggies were attacking anyone who tried to support the club and saw why the club had made decisions they did, some people unfortunately, for them, got caught up in that WUMs games and have painted themselves into a corner
Gaza has been one of NC's biggest defenders over the summer so why he feels he can moan at others for treating him like a 'demi-god' leaves me dumbfounded.
I make no bones about my consistent support for NC while he was here, however since he has left we we begging to hear and sweet a bit more of what went wrong whilst he was in charge. I will always respect what NC did for the club, but can also see his mistakes. I don't know why Gaza cant see that you can do both. Its all or nothing with him.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Just an observation, but there seems to have been a lot of new posters joined since the end of last season, and we are missing quite a lot of our old regulars. I know there were name changes that were explained. The ones who do not post anymore were the ''Cortese appreciation society'', Cortese was like a demi-god to these posters and any one who critisied him was shot down in flames. The new ones are now very anti Cortese and support the current board and any one who dares critise the board are shot down in flames..... Coincidence. I think not. The ''new'' posters are all very vocal and have a gang mentality, jog anyones memory??? I don't normally do theories, but this one intrigues me.[/p][/quote]One thing for sure is that I haven't changed or intend to use a different sign-on despite opinions that beg to differ, But I wish one of you would I keep "slagging" off the wrong one![/p][/quote]Osprey this great conspiracy theory of Gaz's is very funny don't you think? He wasn't saying the same when loads of new posters spouted negative carp for weeks on end, telling the likes of you and me to 'shut up' 'go away' and claiming we weren't real fans! The new negative poster were the most vocal of all with some saying very derogatory remarks about les reed, Ralph and KL. Most of those logins were the same person who has since been banned, for the second time. The neggies were attacking anyone who tried to support the club and saw why the club had made decisions they did, some people unfortunately, for them, got caught up in that WUMs games and have painted themselves into a corner Gaza has been one of NC's biggest defenders over the summer so why he feels he can moan at others for treating him like a 'demi-god' leaves me dumbfounded. I make no bones about my consistent support for NC while he was here, however since he has left we we begging to hear and sweet a bit more of what went wrong whilst he was in charge. I will always respect what NC did for the club, but can also see his mistakes. I don't know why Gaza cant see that you can do both. Its all or nothing with him. de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 4

7:36am Wed 20 Aug 14

jls217 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Just an observation, but there seems to have been a lot of new posters joined since the end of last season, and we are missing quite a lot of our old regulars.

I know there were name changes that were explained.
The ones who do not post anymore were the ''Cortese appreciation society'', Cortese was like a demi-god to these posters and any one who critisied him was shot down in flames.
The new ones are now very anti Cortese and support the current board and any one who dares critise the board are shot down in flames..... Coincidence. I think not.

The ''new'' posters are all very vocal and have a gang mentality, jog anyones memory???

I don't normally do theories, but this one intrigues me.
One thing for sure is that I haven't changed or intend to use a different sign-on despite opinions that beg to differ, But I wish one of you would I keep "slagging" off the wrong one!
It's a local site for a local paper serving local people. Not that high on the all time list of conspiratorial observations really mate.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Just an observation, but there seems to have been a lot of new posters joined since the end of last season, and we are missing quite a lot of our old regulars. I know there were name changes that were explained. The ones who do not post anymore were the ''Cortese appreciation society'', Cortese was like a demi-god to these posters and any one who critisied him was shot down in flames. The new ones are now very anti Cortese and support the current board and any one who dares critise the board are shot down in flames..... Coincidence. I think not. The ''new'' posters are all very vocal and have a gang mentality, jog anyones memory??? I don't normally do theories, but this one intrigues me.[/p][/quote]One thing for sure is that I haven't changed or intend to use a different sign-on despite opinions that beg to differ, But I wish one of you would I keep "slagging" off the wrong one![/p][/quote]It's a local site for a local paper serving local people. Not that high on the all time list of conspiratorial observations really mate. jls217
  • Score: 2

8:39am Wed 20 Aug 14

TGodSFC says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
jls217 wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Tersites wrote:
Dear Sir / Madam,

I am writing to register my absolute and utter DISGUST at the "Ronald Koeman" cartoons on your website: http://www.theguardi








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This so called "humour" is an abomination! The pictures are highly insulting (linking Koeman to a cow!_) and I would suspect slanderous (calling Koeman a liar etc). No one allows racist or sexism, or anti-religious slander, so why, I'd sincerely like to know do you find publishing this sort of absolute venom against one man acceptable on your webpages? I would expect that there is possibly a case for legal action.

I've always been a reader and a fan of the Guardian newspaper, and am stunned and surprised that you would allow this to be published?

I look forward to the immediate removal of this page, and an expedient reply on how you can possibly justify this as 'humour' and allow this page to be published?

Regards,

Tommy.
Get over yourself - there are people being murdered for their religious beliefs on a mountainside in Iraq - NOW THAT SIR IS AN ABOMINATION. Also worthy of your absolute and utter DISGUST.

This is a football sipptake which should be taken with a pinch of salt and enjoyed - if you are capable of enjoyment that is. They don't have to justify anything to you. If you don't like it don't buy the paper or click off that page. Try to deny me a good sipptake and I may be tempted to make you the subect of my absolute and utter DISGUST and see what I can do to censor you out of the proceedings.
Yours slightly peeved.......... and still giggling.
Don't listen to him Tommy, the words of a man who openly likes JLS. Good on you son! I did the same.
Mate, it's just bants.
Reeaaalllllyyyyyy???




? :-P
Aye, what is life without bants? It's a subject that tortured Shakespeare for many years and drove him to pen his most moving passage: "I have of late,—but wherefore I know not,—lost all my bants, forgone all custom of exercises; and indeed it goes so heavily with my disposition that this goodly frame, the earth, seems to me a sterile promontory; this most excellent canopy, the air, look you, this brave o’erhanging firmament, this majestical roof fretted with golden fire, why, it appears no other thing to me but a foul and pestilent congregation of vapours."

So next time anyone gets all huffy about someone having a bit of a laugh then, you know, think on...
'Nuff said. Thanks St Van - might just have done enough for me to deflect the pins in the doll. Who are these joyless souls to argue with any man who can quote the immortal Bard. Or even the immortal one himself assuming that is a quote of course.
I was losing that one to some very serious souls indeed until you bailed me out.
Maybe I just have a warped sense of the ridiculous. I find something to laugh at in most situations and I'm sorry I found them satirical and funny. It will probably come as no great shock that I do not, as a rule, read the Guardian though I have used it to hold my fish and chips from time to time.
Innit. Football (to me, at any rate) is meant to be a bit of a laugh. I go to a lot of games and regardless of the result usually come away having howled with laughter after listening to people completely rip the p1ss out of a bunch of overpaid millionaires and their fans. We can't go getting all pissy when it happens to us. In fact, it would be worse if that never happened as it would mean people are feeling sorry for us, and that's one thing I'll never accept.

We are Southampton. We applaud good bants and give it back in spades. Long may it continue.
Shane Long may it continue
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tersites[/bold] wrote: Dear Sir / Madam, I am writing to register my absolute and utter DISGUST at the "Ronald Koeman" cartoons on your website: http://www.theguardi an.com/football/gall ery/2014/aug/19/rona ld-koeman-the-galler y-southampton#/?pict ure=444806438&in dex= 7 This so called "humour" is an abomination! The pictures are highly insulting (linking Koeman to a cow!_) and I would suspect slanderous (calling Koeman a liar etc). No one allows racist or sexism, or anti-religious slander, so why, I'd sincerely like to know do you find publishing this sort of absolute venom against one man acceptable on your webpages? I would expect that there is possibly a case for legal action. I've always been a reader and a fan of the Guardian newspaper, and am stunned and surprised that you would allow this to be published? I look forward to the immediate removal of this page, and an expedient reply on how you can possibly justify this as 'humour' and allow this page to be published? Regards, Tommy.[/p][/quote]Get over yourself - there are people being murdered for their religious beliefs on a mountainside in Iraq - NOW THAT SIR IS AN ABOMINATION. Also worthy of your absolute and utter DISGUST. This is a football sipptake which should be taken with a pinch of salt and enjoyed - if you are capable of enjoyment that is. They don't have to justify anything to you. If you don't like it don't buy the paper or click off that page. Try to deny me a good sipptake and I may be tempted to make you the subect of my absolute and utter DISGUST and see what I can do to censor you out of the proceedings. Yours slightly peeved.......... and still giggling.[/p][/quote]Don't listen to him Tommy, the words of a man who openly likes JLS. Good on you son! I did the same.[/p][/quote]Mate, it's just bants.[/p][/quote]Reeaaalllllyyyyyy??? ? :-P[/p][/quote]Aye, what is life without bants? It's a subject that tortured Shakespeare for many years and drove him to pen his most moving passage: "I have of late,—but wherefore I know not,—lost all my bants, forgone all custom of exercises; and indeed it goes so heavily with my disposition that this goodly frame, the earth, seems to me a sterile promontory; this most excellent canopy, the air, look you, this brave o’erhanging firmament, this majestical roof fretted with golden fire, why, it appears no other thing to me but a foul and pestilent congregation of vapours." So next time anyone gets all huffy about someone having a bit of a laugh then, you know, think on...[/p][/quote]'Nuff said. Thanks St Van - might just have done enough for me to deflect the pins in the doll. Who are these joyless souls to argue with any man who can quote the immortal Bard. Or even the immortal one himself assuming that is a quote of course. I was losing that one to some very serious souls indeed until you bailed me out. Maybe I just have a warped sense of the ridiculous. I find something to laugh at in most situations and I'm sorry I found them satirical and funny. It will probably come as no great shock that I do not, as a rule, read the Guardian though I have used it to hold my fish and chips from time to time.[/p][/quote]Innit. Football (to me, at any rate) is meant to be a bit of a laugh. I go to a lot of games and regardless of the result usually come away having howled with laughter after listening to people completely rip the p1ss out of a bunch of overpaid millionaires and their fans. We can't go getting all pissy when it happens to us. In fact, it would be worse if that never happened as it would mean people are feeling sorry for us, and that's one thing I'll never accept. We are Southampton. We applaud good bants and give it back in spades. Long may it continue.[/p][/quote]Shane Long may it continue TGodSFC
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10:14am Wed 20 Aug 14

Beer Monster says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Just an observation, but there seems to have been a lot of new posters joined since the end of last season, and we are missing quite a lot of our old regulars.

I know there were name changes that were explained.
The ones who do not post anymore were the ''Cortese appreciation society'', Cortese was like a demi-god to these posters and any one who critisied him was shot down in flames.
The new ones are now very anti Cortese and support the current board and any one who dares critise the board are shot down in flames..... Coincidence. I think not.

The ''new'' posters are all very vocal and have a gang mentality, jog anyones memory???

I don't normally do theories, but this one intrigues me.
I think a lot of the old posters gave up because the negativity on here got ridiculous. They're mainly all still on the Facebook page, I think.
Nail. Head. I've been posting on online groups and sites since I was at uni 18 years ago and it happens with pretty much every association - people get cheesed off with reading the same old rhetoric from a handful of trolls, and find something else to occupy their time with.

I'm still here as we still have some decent bants occasionally :-)
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Just an observation, but there seems to have been a lot of new posters joined since the end of last season, and we are missing quite a lot of our old regulars. I know there were name changes that were explained. The ones who do not post anymore were the ''Cortese appreciation society'', Cortese was like a demi-god to these posters and any one who critisied him was shot down in flames. The new ones are now very anti Cortese and support the current board and any one who dares critise the board are shot down in flames..... Coincidence. I think not. The ''new'' posters are all very vocal and have a gang mentality, jog anyones memory??? I don't normally do theories, but this one intrigues me.[/p][/quote]I think a lot of the old posters gave up because the negativity on here got ridiculous. They're mainly all still on the Facebook page, I think.[/p][/quote]Nail. Head. I've been posting on online groups and sites since I was at uni 18 years ago and it happens with pretty much every association - people get cheesed off with reading the same old rhetoric from a handful of trolls, and find something else to occupy their time with. I'm still here as we still have some decent bants occasionally :-) Beer Monster
  • Score: 2

10:16am Wed 20 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

jls217 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Just an observation, but there seems to have been a lot of new posters joined since the end of last season, and we are missing quite a lot of our old regulars.

I know there were name changes that were explained.
The ones who do not post anymore were the ''Cortese appreciation society'', Cortese was like a demi-god to these posters and any one who critisied him was shot down in flames.
The new ones are now very anti Cortese and support the current board and any one who dares critise the board are shot down in flames..... Coincidence. I think not.

The ''new'' posters are all very vocal and have a gang mentality, jog anyones memory???

I don't normally do theories, but this one intrigues me.
One thing for sure is that I haven't changed or intend to use a different sign-on despite opinions that beg to differ, But I wish one of you would I keep "slagging" off the wrong one!
It's a local site for a local paper serving local people. Not that high on the all time list of conspiratorial observations really mate.
James Bond seen at Staple wood.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Just an observation, but there seems to have been a lot of new posters joined since the end of last season, and we are missing quite a lot of our old regulars. I know there were name changes that were explained. The ones who do not post anymore were the ''Cortese appreciation society'', Cortese was like a demi-god to these posters and any one who critisied him was shot down in flames. The new ones are now very anti Cortese and support the current board and any one who dares critise the board are shot down in flames..... Coincidence. I think not. The ''new'' posters are all very vocal and have a gang mentality, jog anyones memory??? I don't normally do theories, but this one intrigues me.[/p][/quote]One thing for sure is that I haven't changed or intend to use a different sign-on despite opinions that beg to differ, But I wish one of you would I keep "slagging" off the wrong one![/p][/quote]It's a local site for a local paper serving local people. Not that high on the all time list of conspiratorial observations really mate.[/p][/quote]James Bond seen at Staple wood. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

10:30am Wed 20 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

Costa Baz wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Just an observation, but there seems to have been a lot of new posters joined since the end of last season, and we are missing quite a lot of our old regulars.

I know there were name changes that were explained.
The ones who do not post anymore were the ''Cortese appreciation society'', Cortese was like a demi-god to these posters and any one who critisied him was shot down in flames.
The new ones are now very anti Cortese and support the current board and any one who dares critise the board are shot down in flames..... Coincidence. I think not.

The ''new'' posters are all very vocal and have a gang mentality, jog anyones memory???

I don't normally do theories, but this one intrigues me.
Feeling lonely? Or are you distancing yourself, from them?
The way you've been slating the board, I thought you WERE one of the Cortese appreciation society.

I'm sure they'll be back, if we have a bad run of form, or if Morgan agitates enough to force a move.
Never Baz, could not stand the man, said on here that he was a dictator and a bully.
However, his track record was 2nd to none.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Just an observation, but there seems to have been a lot of new posters joined since the end of last season, and we are missing quite a lot of our old regulars. I know there were name changes that were explained. The ones who do not post anymore were the ''Cortese appreciation society'', Cortese was like a demi-god to these posters and any one who critisied him was shot down in flames. The new ones are now very anti Cortese and support the current board and any one who dares critise the board are shot down in flames..... Coincidence. I think not. The ''new'' posters are all very vocal and have a gang mentality, jog anyones memory??? I don't normally do theories, but this one intrigues me.[/p][/quote]Feeling lonely? Or are you distancing yourself, from them? The way you've been slating the board, I thought you WERE one of the Cortese appreciation society. I'm sure they'll be back, if we have a bad run of form, or if Morgan agitates enough to force a move.[/p][/quote]Never Baz, could not stand the man, said on here that he was a dictator and a bully. However, his track record was 2nd to none. costa gaz
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