Saints complete £10m Forster signing

Fraser Forster

Fraser Forster

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SAINTS have completed the signing of Fraser Forster from Celtic for a fee believed to be about £10m.

The 26-year-old England international has become the most expensive keeper in the club’s history after agreeing a four-year contract and making the switch to St Mary’s.

He will become the club’s number one and is expected to go straight into the side to start the new Premier League season against Liverpool at Anfield next weekend.

In a club statement, manager Ronald Koeman said: "Fraser is a very talented player and we are delighted to be able to bring him to Southampton. This is another important part of our rebuilding process ahead of the start of the season.

"The fact that he has worked with Dave Watson before means we already know all about his strengths and weaknesses, and I am confident that we will be able to help him improve even further.

"Fraser is the perfect fit to help complement the players we already have, and he will add a lot of quality to the squad. 

"He is an exciting English player with a very good reputation within the game and, at 26, he will enjoy the best years of his career at Southampton."

Forster has worked with goalkeeping coach Dave Watson with England, and was part of the squad for the finals in Brazil.

He started his career at Newcastle but never made a first team appearance for the Magpies, instead having loan spells at Stockport, Bristol Rovers and Norwich before moving to Celtic.

After a successful loan spell north of the border he joined Celtic permanently in 2012.

During his time with the Hoops he won three Scottish league titles and two Scottish Cups.

Forster’s signing inevitably sheds doubt on the future of Artur Boruc, who only has a year left remaining on his contract with Kelvin Davis ensconced as club captain and young keeper Paulo Gazzaniga developing in the background.

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10:06pm Sat 9 Aug 14

u bunch of mugs says...

Get in
Get in u bunch of mugs
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10:06pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Feebee43 says...

Welcome....England's no 1 ⚽️
Welcome....England's no 1 ⚽️ Feebee43
  • Score: 27

10:07pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Saint Chris says...

Quality signing, feel a little sorry for artur who was amazing last season. Fraser will be out number 1 for years. Great that he's English. Great keeper. Great deal.
Quality signing, feel a little sorry for artur who was amazing last season. Fraser will be out number 1 for years. Great that he's English. Great keeper. Great deal. Saint Chris
  • Score: 30

10:08pm Sat 9 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Artur might have something to say about being the Number One!
Artur might have something to say about being the Number One! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 25

10:09pm Sat 9 Aug 14

elvis says...

We've just signed the best British goalkeeper around ....am delighted !! X
We've just signed the best British goalkeeper around ....am delighted !! X elvis
  • Score: 30

10:10pm Sat 9 Aug 14

u bunch of mugs says...

Fraser Forster is having a party bring ya lager and some Charlie.
Fraser Forster is having a party bring ya lager and some Charlie. u bunch of mugs
  • Score: -34

10:12pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Artur might have something to say about being the Number One!
Hope we don't loose him though,makes the GK position, one that won't be a weak point.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Artur might have something to say about being the Number One![/p][/quote]Hope we don't loose him though,makes the GK position, one that won't be a weak point. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 5

10:12pm Sat 9 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

Happy Clappers 4-6 Merchants of Doom
Back of the net... pick that one out!!!!!!

The most unlikely of comebacks is back on.
Happy Clappers 4-6 Merchants of Doom Back of the net... pick that one out!!!!!! The most unlikely of comebacks is back on. costa gaz
  • Score: 15

10:22pm Sat 9 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1.

£10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club.

oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?
welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1. £10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club. oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong? de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 60

10:25pm Sat 9 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Was it me, just me or did the site just crash?
Was it me, just me or did the site just crash? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 3

10:26pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Graham, North of Watford says...

Oh Happy Day. If he is only half the Goalkeeper that Niemi was, he is still a star.

He's obviously going to be better because he is English and if ANYONE finds ANYTHING negative about his signing I shall go to bed and give up!!!!
Oh Happy Day. If he is only half the Goalkeeper that Niemi was, he is still a star. He's obviously going to be better because he is English and if ANYONE finds ANYTHING negative about his signing I shall go to bed and give up!!!! Graham, North of Watford
  • Score: 23

10:28pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Dgginger says...

This signing shows what a mess the club is in at the moment, hopefully long term he does well for us but....

He's never worth ten million

Why have we waited so long to get it done ? He could have got injured in the dead rubber in the Champions League the other night ...maybe there is a reason but to buy a new goalkeeper and not even give him a chance to play in a friendly is utter stupidity we could have bought him two days ago, or better still two months ago.

Now everyone knows we have all the money in the world ...they are going to hold out aren't they...

I don't watch Scottiish football but I wonder how good he is at Celtic he must get some very easy games he'll certainly be busier playing for us that's for sure, especially if we don't buy some defenders.

As it stands we must pray that Koeman is right about Tadic and Pelle because if he's not we are in danger they've never played in the Premier League remember one of my biggest fear is that they play well in the first few weeks and then fade ...fingers crossed they are good enough.

Maybe we will be in better shape come September the first but we are certainly not in a good place right now.....and I don't see how we can win the argument with Schnederlin unless he changes his mind.

Hopefully we have so much money we can't fail to get in some quality in but, my goodness, we are making a drama out of it....
This signing shows what a mess the club is in at the moment, hopefully long term he does well for us but.... He's never worth ten million Why have we waited so long to get it done ? He could have got injured in the dead rubber in the Champions League the other night ...maybe there is a reason but to buy a new goalkeeper and not even give him a chance to play in a friendly is utter stupidity we could have bought him two days ago, or better still two months ago. Now everyone knows we have all the money in the world ...they are going to hold out aren't they... I don't watch Scottiish football but I wonder how good he is at Celtic he must get some very easy games he'll certainly be busier playing for us that's for sure, especially if we don't buy some defenders. As it stands we must pray that Koeman is right about Tadic and Pelle because if he's not we are in danger they've never played in the Premier League remember one of my biggest fear is that they play well in the first few weeks and then fade ...fingers crossed they are good enough. Maybe we will be in better shape come September the first but we are certainly not in a good place right now.....and I don't see how we can win the argument with Schnederlin unless he changes his mind. Hopefully we have so much money we can't fail to get in some quality in but, my goodness, we are making a drama out of it.... Dgginger
  • Score: -22

10:33pm Sat 9 Aug 14

hedge end bob says...

Goodnight Graham north of Watford.
Goodnight Graham north of Watford. hedge end bob
  • Score: 24

10:35pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Skating on thin ice says...

£10 million spent on a TOP keeper who is 3rd choice for a country rated 1 place below Bosnia in the latest FIFA rankings. Who spent most of last season watching the ball through binoculars, as his forwards piled on the goals against teams of pub league standard. But who has conceded SIX goals in his last TWO games against a side of League 2 standard. TOP!!
£10 million spent on a TOP keeper who is 3rd choice for a country rated 1 place below Bosnia in the latest FIFA rankings. Who spent most of last season watching the ball through binoculars, as his forwards piled on the goals against teams of pub league standard. But who has conceded SIX goals in his last TWO games against a side of League 2 standard. TOP!! Skating on thin ice
  • Score: -94

10:35pm Sat 9 Aug 14

03alpe01 says...

Feebee43 wrote:
Welcome....England's no 1 ⚽️
We haven't signed Joe Hart...
[quote][p][bold]Feebee43[/bold] wrote: Welcome....England's no 1 ⚽️[/p][/quote]We haven't signed Joe Hart... 03alpe01
  • Score: -34

10:36pm Sat 9 Aug 14

slapheadphil says...

Wait, Whats that I can see. Coud it be the light at the end of that long dark tunnel...
Wait, Whats that I can see. Coud it be the light at the end of that long dark tunnel... slapheadphil
  • Score: 16

10:37pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Saint Clements says...

Graham, North of Watford wrote:
Oh Happy Day. If he is only half the Goalkeeper that Niemi was, he is still a star.

He's obviously going to be better because he is English and if ANYONE finds ANYTHING negative about his signing I shall go to bed and give up!!!!
Couldn't agree more. True statement of intent. Also like the reference to Niemi - just shades Flowers as my favourite Saints keeper. Bold statement, but I'm thinking he could develop into the best of all of them.

Rojo, Redmond and Hernandez next please. Then we'll have the Spuds firmly in our sights.
[quote][p][bold]Graham, North of Watford[/bold] wrote: Oh Happy Day. If he is only half the Goalkeeper that Niemi was, he is still a star. He's obviously going to be better because he is English and if ANYONE finds ANYTHING negative about his signing I shall go to bed and give up!!!![/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. True statement of intent. Also like the reference to Niemi - just shades Flowers as my favourite Saints keeper. Bold statement, but I'm thinking he could develop into the best of all of them. Rojo, Redmond and Hernandez next please. Then we'll have the Spuds firmly in our sights. Saint Clements
  • Score: 22

10:39pm Sat 9 Aug 14

InCortesewetrust says...

With fonte and yoshida in heart of defence he will be earning his crust this season, can't we play boruc and forster in goal?
With fonte and yoshida in heart of defence he will be earning his crust this season, can't we play boruc and forster in goal? InCortesewetrust
  • Score: -8

10:39pm Sat 9 Aug 14

03alpe01 says...

This is great news though. Good young keeper. Yes, 26 is still young for a keeper!

And just as Liverpool have sold Pepe Reina to Bayern Munich as well...
This is great news though. Good young keeper. Yes, 26 is still young for a keeper! And just as Liverpool have sold Pepe Reina to Bayern Munich as well... 03alpe01
  • Score: 13

10:41pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Skating on thin ice says...

03alpe01 wrote:
Feebee43 wrote:
Welcome....England's no 1 ⚽️
We haven't signed Joe Hart...
At least he doesn't advertise shampoo. Which is about all Hart is good at doing.
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Feebee43[/bold] wrote: Welcome....England's no 1 ⚽️[/p][/quote]We haven't signed Joe Hart...[/p][/quote]At least he doesn't advertise shampoo. Which is about all Hart is good at doing. Skating on thin ice
  • Score: 6

10:43pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

Dgginger wrote:
This signing shows what a mess the club is in at the moment, hopefully long term he does well for us but....

He's never worth ten million

Why have we waited so long to get it done ? He could have got injured in the dead rubber in the Champions League the other night ...maybe there is a reason but to buy a new goalkeeper and not even give him a chance to play in a friendly is utter stupidity we could have bought him two days ago, or better still two months ago.

Now everyone knows we have all the money in the world ...they are going to hold out aren't they...

I don't watch Scottiish football but I wonder how good he is at Celtic he must get some very easy games he'll certainly be busier playing for us that's for sure, especially if we don't buy some defenders.

As it stands we must pray that Koeman is right about Tadic and Pelle because if he's not we are in danger they've never played in the Premier League remember one of my biggest fear is that they play well in the first few weeks and then fade ...fingers crossed they are good enough.

Maybe we will be in better shape come September the first but we are certainly not in a good place right now.....and I don't see how we can win the argument with Schnederlin unless he changes his mind.

Hopefully we have so much money we can't fail to get in some quality in but, my goodness, we are making a drama out of it....
Boruc used to play for Celtic, and he's pretty good, and Forster still needs to displace him in order to get into the team. Also every player playing in the prem, had never played in it at one stage of their careers. No, we can't win the argument with Schneiderlin unless he changes his mind, or agrees to some kind of temporary compromise. I can't see what's dramatic about any of that, though.
[quote][p][bold]Dgginger[/bold] wrote: This signing shows what a mess the club is in at the moment, hopefully long term he does well for us but.... He's never worth ten million Why have we waited so long to get it done ? He could have got injured in the dead rubber in the Champions League the other night ...maybe there is a reason but to buy a new goalkeeper and not even give him a chance to play in a friendly is utter stupidity we could have bought him two days ago, or better still two months ago. Now everyone knows we have all the money in the world ...they are going to hold out aren't they... I don't watch Scottiish football but I wonder how good he is at Celtic he must get some very easy games he'll certainly be busier playing for us that's for sure, especially if we don't buy some defenders. As it stands we must pray that Koeman is right about Tadic and Pelle because if he's not we are in danger they've never played in the Premier League remember one of my biggest fear is that they play well in the first few weeks and then fade ...fingers crossed they are good enough. Maybe we will be in better shape come September the first but we are certainly not in a good place right now.....and I don't see how we can win the argument with Schnederlin unless he changes his mind. Hopefully we have so much money we can't fail to get in some quality in but, my goodness, we are making a drama out of it....[/p][/quote]Boruc used to play for Celtic, and he's pretty good, and Forster still needs to displace him in order to get into the team. Also every player playing in the prem, had never played in it at one stage of their careers. No, we can't win the argument with Schneiderlin unless he changes his mind, or agrees to some kind of temporary compromise. I can't see what's dramatic about any of that, though. Rising_Son
  • Score: 25

10:45pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Saint Clements says...

InCortesewetrust wrote:
With fonte and yoshida in heart of defence he will be earning his crust this season, can't we play boruc and forster in goal?
Ain't that the truth.

Need to remedy the centreback situation. Fast.
[quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: With fonte and yoshida in heart of defence he will be earning his crust this season, can't we play boruc and forster in goal?[/p][/quote]Ain't that the truth. Need to remedy the centreback situation. Fast. Saint Clements
  • Score: 16

10:45pm Sat 9 Aug 14

saintmicky says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1.

£10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club.

oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?
YES! I have been a bit of a 'neggie' this summer, now starting to feel as though I could be wrong!
Would probably want to see the first 3 premier league points in the bag before I become a 'happy clapper' but the relevence of this signing cannot be overlooked, happy days indeed!!

STID
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1. £10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club. oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?[/p][/quote]YES! I have been a bit of a 'neggie' this summer, now starting to feel as though I could be wrong! Would probably want to see the first 3 premier league points in the bag before I become a 'happy clapper' but the relevence of this signing cannot be overlooked, happy days indeed!! STID saintmicky
  • Score: 15

10:48pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Skating on thin ice says...

InCortesewetrust wrote:
With fonte and yoshida in heart of defence he will be earning his crust this season, can't we play boruc and forster in goal?
5 goalkeepers now in the first team squad, with your defence my advice is to play them all!!
[quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: With fonte and yoshida in heart of defence he will be earning his crust this season, can't we play boruc and forster in goal?[/p][/quote]5 goalkeepers now in the first team squad, with your defence my advice is to play them all!! Skating on thin ice
  • Score: -40

10:50pm Sat 9 Aug 14

one in the crowd says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
£10 million spent on a TOP keeper who is 3rd choice for a country rated 1 place below Bosnia in the latest FIFA rankings. Who spent most of last season watching the ball through binoculars, as his forwards piled on the goals against teams of pub league standard. But who has conceded SIX goals in his last TWO games against a side of League 2 standard. TOP!!
I predict the score next weekend against Liverpool will be :-

Liverpool 3 - Southampton 1

Then you will be panicking and rushing to spend money on filling the gaps in your team that you should have filled earlier, but didn't want to spend the cash on !
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: £10 million spent on a TOP keeper who is 3rd choice for a country rated 1 place below Bosnia in the latest FIFA rankings. Who spent most of last season watching the ball through binoculars, as his forwards piled on the goals against teams of pub league standard. But who has conceded SIX goals in his last TWO games against a side of League 2 standard. TOP!![/p][/quote]I predict the score next weekend against Liverpool will be :- Liverpool 3 - Southampton 1 Then you will be panicking and rushing to spend money on filling the gaps in your team that you should have filled earlier, but didn't want to spend the cash on ! one in the crowd
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10:51pm Sat 9 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
InCortesewetrust wrote:
With fonte and yoshida in heart of defence he will be earning his crust this season, can't we play boruc and forster in goal?
5 goalkeepers now in the first team squad, with your defence my advice is to play them all!!
We would have to be seriously desperate to take advice from any skate let alone you.
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: With fonte and yoshida in heart of defence he will be earning his crust this season, can't we play boruc and forster in goal?[/p][/quote]5 goalkeepers now in the first team squad, with your defence my advice is to play them all!![/p][/quote]We would have to be seriously desperate to take advice from any skate let alone you. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 15

10:52pm Sat 9 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

one in the crowd wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
£10 million spent on a TOP keeper who is 3rd choice for a country rated 1 place below Bosnia in the latest FIFA rankings. Who spent most of last season watching the ball through binoculars, as his forwards piled on the goals against teams of pub league standard. But who has conceded SIX goals in his last TWO games against a side of League 2 standard. TOP!!
I predict the score next weekend against Liverpool will be :-

Liverpool 3 - Southampton 1

Then you will be panicking and rushing to spend money on filling the gaps in your team that you should have filled earlier, but didn't want to spend the cash on !
Doubt it, we will see.
[quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: £10 million spent on a TOP keeper who is 3rd choice for a country rated 1 place below Bosnia in the latest FIFA rankings. Who spent most of last season watching the ball through binoculars, as his forwards piled on the goals against teams of pub league standard. But who has conceded SIX goals in his last TWO games against a side of League 2 standard. TOP!![/p][/quote]I predict the score next weekend against Liverpool will be :- Liverpool 3 - Southampton 1 Then you will be panicking and rushing to spend money on filling the gaps in your team that you should have filled earlier, but didn't want to spend the cash on ![/p][/quote]Doubt it, we will see. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 9

10:53pm Sat 9 Aug 14

saintsfanalex says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
InCortesewetrust wrote:
With fonte and yoshida in heart of defence he will be earning his crust this season, can't we play boruc and forster in goal?
5 goalkeepers now in the first team squad, with your defence my advice is to play them all!!
haha got to admit quality!!
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: With fonte and yoshida in heart of defence he will be earning his crust this season, can't we play boruc and forster in goal?[/p][/quote]5 goalkeepers now in the first team squad, with your defence my advice is to play them all!![/p][/quote]haha got to admit quality!! saintsfanalex
  • Score: 1

10:55pm Sat 9 Aug 14

nomorerumours says...

A warm welcome to Fraser. He's not only an excellent keeper but has also demonstrated his professionalism. Just look at his long and heartfelt signing off message thanking the Celtic fans - it's on Celtic's website. Look's like he'll be our number 1 keepers for many years. So, we're back to one England player and Fraser could well nail down the England spot permanently for himself. He wants to improve. What a shrewd move to get Dave Watson on board as our keeper coach. Meanwhile, RonKo seems to have upset Paul Lambert over his comments about Ron Vlaar. Although Lambert keeps saying he'll be sitting down with Vlaar for a long chat (in fact he's now saying "after the transfer window closes") and "there have not been any offers for him" I think one can read between the lines. He would not be speaking out like this unless he thinks he is likely to loose Vlaar. With Villa's financial problems and the club up for sale I wonder if their board is doing things behind Lambert's back - shock horror, just as happened to Stuart Pearce at Forest but NOT at our club despite some having a misguided view about our board's activities (I believe they are doing all they can to support RonKo). I am waffling a bit and making some assumptions so why not go for broke. We need Vlaar and I think we may get him. Also, despite ManUs (apparent) interest, we may still secure Rojo for 20m euros (the amount we have been told to cough up). I would still like Virgil van Dijk in our squad. So, then, all we need is another striker to compete and/or combine with Pelle. When JayRod is fit, we will then have an excellent squad and some depth and cover in most key positions. Much stronger overall squad than last year.
A warm welcome to Fraser. He's not only an excellent keeper but has also demonstrated his professionalism. Just look at his long and heartfelt signing off message thanking the Celtic fans - it's on Celtic's website. Look's like he'll be our number 1 keepers for many years. So, we're back to one England player and Fraser could well nail down the England spot permanently for himself. He wants to improve. What a shrewd move to get Dave Watson on board as our keeper coach. Meanwhile, RonKo seems to have upset Paul Lambert over his comments about Ron Vlaar. Although Lambert keeps saying he'll be sitting down with Vlaar for a long chat (in fact he's now saying "after the transfer window closes") and "there have not been any offers for him" I think one can read between the lines. He would not be speaking out like this unless he thinks he is likely to loose Vlaar. With Villa's financial problems and the club up for sale I wonder if their board is doing things behind Lambert's back - shock horror, just as happened to Stuart Pearce at Forest but NOT at our club despite some having a misguided view about our board's activities (I believe they are doing all they can to support RonKo). I am waffling a bit and making some assumptions so why not go for broke. We need Vlaar and I think we may get him. Also, despite ManUs (apparent) interest, we may still secure Rojo for 20m euros (the amount we have been told to cough up). I would still like Virgil van Dijk in our squad. So, then, all we need is another striker to compete and/or combine with Pelle. When JayRod is fit, we will then have an excellent squad and some depth and cover in most key positions. Much stronger overall squad than last year. nomorerumours
  • Score: 38

10:56pm Sat 9 Aug 14

nomorerumours says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Was it me, just me or did the site just crash?
It crashed for about 5 minutes at around 2230.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Was it me, just me or did the site just crash?[/p][/quote]It crashed for about 5 minutes at around 2230. nomorerumours
  • Score: 2

10:56pm Sat 9 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

saintmicky wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1.

£10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club.

oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?
YES! I have been a bit of a 'neggie' this summer, now starting to feel as though I could be wrong!
Would probably want to see the first 3 premier league points in the bag before I become a 'happy clapper' but the relevence of this signing cannot be overlooked, happy days indeed!!

STID
welcome to the club, you will find us happy clappers are quite a friendly bunch, who will not hold your neggie past against you.

like you I will be happy after our first win, would love to see it next week up at liverhampton but that might be a tough game and I will be more than happy with a draw.
[quote][p][bold]saintmicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1. £10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club. oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?[/p][/quote]YES! I have been a bit of a 'neggie' this summer, now starting to feel as though I could be wrong! Would probably want to see the first 3 premier league points in the bag before I become a 'happy clapper' but the relevence of this signing cannot be overlooked, happy days indeed!! STID[/p][/quote]welcome to the club, you will find us happy clappers are quite a friendly bunch, who will not hold your neggie past against you. like you I will be happy after our first win, would love to see it next week up at liverhampton but that might be a tough game and I will be more than happy with a draw. de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 10

10:57pm Sat 9 Aug 14

InCortesewetrust says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
InCortesewetrust wrote:
With fonte and yoshida in heart of defence he will be earning his crust this season, can't we play boruc and forster in goal?
5 goalkeepers now in the first team squad, with your defence my advice is to play them all!!
No thanks have you ever seen gazza play ? He is so bad he couldn't even get in your squad!
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: With fonte and yoshida in heart of defence he will be earning his crust this season, can't we play boruc and forster in goal?[/p][/quote]5 goalkeepers now in the first team squad, with your defence my advice is to play them all!![/p][/quote]No thanks have you ever seen gazza play ? He is so bad he couldn't even get in your squad! InCortesewetrust
  • Score: 10

10:59pm Sat 9 Aug 14

jls217 says...

u bunch of mugs wrote:
Get in
Bloody hell mugs you almost sound happy. Careful mate you have a reputation to uphold. What're you going to be like when we get the CB's and a striker in too?
[quote][p][bold]u bunch of mugs[/bold] wrote: Get in[/p][/quote]Bloody hell mugs you almost sound happy. Careful mate you have a reputation to uphold. What're you going to be like when we get the CB's and a striker in too? jls217
  • Score: 7

11:00pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Was it me, just me or did the site just crash?
Something happened cos I submitted a comment which has disappeared, so it is now floating around in cyberspace and will probably turn up on a thread next weekend,on which we are all celebrating hammering Liverpool at Anfield,but no one will know what I'm talking about...no change there then! :0)
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Was it me, just me or did the site just crash?[/p][/quote]Something happened cos I submitted a comment which has disappeared, so it is now floating around in cyberspace and will probably turn up on a thread next weekend,on which we are all celebrating hammering Liverpool at Anfield,but no one will know what I'm talking about...no change there then! :0) Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 12

11:00pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Graham, North of Watford says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Goodnight Graham north of Watford.
Not quite but its very, very close.

If we appointed the Arch Angel Gabriel and the almighty J.C himself would we still get the negative comments.

(I'm obviously ignoring the posts from the East of the County.

"What, only an Arch Angel? Why coudn't we get a Seraphim or Cherabim. That Swiss bird not willing to splash out out on a decent Heavenly display then"
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Goodnight Graham north of Watford.[/p][/quote]Not quite but its very, very close. If we appointed the Arch Angel Gabriel and the almighty J.C himself would we still get the negative comments. (I'm obviously ignoring the posts from the East of the County. "What, only an Arch Angel? Why coudn't we get a Seraphim or Cherabim. That Swiss bird not willing to splash out out on a decent Heavenly display then" Graham, North of Watford
  • Score: 16

11:00pm Sat 9 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
InCortesewetrust wrote:
With fonte and yoshida in heart of defence he will be earning his crust this season, can't we play boruc and forster in goal?
5 goalkeepers now in the first team squad, with your defence my advice is to play them all!!
wrong but each and every one of them would be a starter in any position in your poxy club!
£10mill for a keeper, how many times would that have brought your entire club? £10mill would be enough to buy your shed and have £9.95mill left over!
are you planning a trip to nottarf tescos yet?
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: With fonte and yoshida in heart of defence he will be earning his crust this season, can't we play boruc and forster in goal?[/p][/quote]5 goalkeepers now in the first team squad, with your defence my advice is to play them all!![/p][/quote]wrong but each and every one of them would be a starter in any position in your poxy club! £10mill for a keeper, how many times would that have brought your entire club? £10mill would be enough to buy your shed and have £9.95mill left over! are you planning a trip to nottarf tescos yet? de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 21

11:06pm Sat 9 Aug 14

nomorerumours says...

one in the crowd wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
£10 million spent on a TOP keeper who is 3rd choice for a country rated 1 place below Bosnia in the latest FIFA rankings. Who spent most of last season watching the ball through binoculars, as his forwards piled on the goals against teams of pub league standard. But who has conceded SIX goals in his last TWO games against a side of League 2 standard. TOP!!
I predict the score next weekend against Liverpool will be :-

Liverpool 3 - Southampton 1

Then you will be panicking and rushing to spend money on filling the gaps in your team that you should have filled earlier, but didn't want to spend the cash on !
When be beat you (2-0) next Sunday, will you promise to leave us alone on this site? I'm amazed that you have so much time for us - you're obviously rejected by other L'pool fans just as Sammy2sheds is on our site. Perhaps you live in his spare shed!
[quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: £10 million spent on a TOP keeper who is 3rd choice for a country rated 1 place below Bosnia in the latest FIFA rankings. Who spent most of last season watching the ball through binoculars, as his forwards piled on the goals against teams of pub league standard. But who has conceded SIX goals in his last TWO games against a side of League 2 standard. TOP!![/p][/quote]I predict the score next weekend against Liverpool will be :- Liverpool 3 - Southampton 1 Then you will be panicking and rushing to spend money on filling the gaps in your team that you should have filled earlier, but didn't want to spend the cash on ![/p][/quote]When be beat you (2-0) next Sunday, will you promise to leave us alone on this site? I'm amazed that you have so much time for us - you're obviously rejected by other L'pool fans just as Sammy2sheds is on our site. Perhaps you live in his spare shed! nomorerumours
  • Score: 13

11:13pm Sat 9 Aug 14

abbiscuits says...

Happy we're investing in the future, but 10 million is a lot for a keeper. Remember we got the Polish No 1 keeper (now No 2) Boric on a free! Please spend some big bucks on a CB , striker and or winger ASAP.
Pelle needs support and supply from the wings. I'm In Holland atm and papers here state RK not happy with the club selling CC and DL ( he was aware of other departures) hence the digging in with Morgan. He's also unhappy with low bids put in for players he wants, so papers say here ( although i assume not Forster !!!).
Happy we're investing in the future, but 10 million is a lot for a keeper. Remember we got the Polish No 1 keeper (now No 2) Boric on a free! Please spend some big bucks on a CB , striker and or winger ASAP. Pelle needs support and supply from the wings. I'm In Holland atm and papers here state RK not happy with the club selling CC and DL ( he was aware of other departures) hence the digging in with Morgan. He's also unhappy with low bids put in for players he wants, so papers say here ( although i assume not Forster !!!). abbiscuits
  • Score: 2

11:17pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Tony in Liberia says...

So, would those who said the board would not be spending any more money, that hey are asset-stripping and about to nob off into the sunset with all the transfer kitty, now please come back on here and acknowledge that they were wrong?

If KL had wanted to keep all that dosh, why would she have allowed 10 million to be spent on a position where AB could have held the fort until a buyer was found for the club. You can argue all you like about whether 10 million is a fair price or not, but you cannot argue that spending it isn't a clear statement of intent to improve the squad and remain competitive.

Also, to all those who said why didn't we buy him seeks ago, Celtic made it quite clear that they wouldn't sell him while they were still in the Champion's League, and who can blame them since getting through the qualifiers is about all there is to actually play for, since they'll win everything else by default. When they went out the deal became live, and now he's ours.

And to those who point out that Celtic are back in the CL, perhaps this (along with RK saying that Morgan is not going to be sold no matter how far away from the pram he manages to get his toys) can be seen as proof that the board are prepared to play hardball when they feel they have a reasonable chance of winning!

Great buy, welcome to the club, and now let's get going on the new season! COYR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!
So, would those who said the board would not be spending any more money, that hey are asset-stripping and about to nob off into the sunset with all the transfer kitty, now please come back on here and acknowledge that they were wrong? If KL had wanted to keep all that dosh, why would she have allowed 10 million to be spent on a position where AB could have held the fort until a buyer was found for the club. You can argue all you like about whether 10 million is a fair price or not, but you cannot argue that spending it isn't a clear statement of intent to improve the squad and remain competitive. Also, to all those who said why didn't we buy him seeks ago, Celtic made it quite clear that they wouldn't sell him while they were still in the Champion's League, and who can blame them since getting through the qualifiers is about all there is to actually play for, since they'll win everything else by default. When they went out the deal became live, and now he's ours. And to those who point out that Celtic are back in the CL, perhaps this (along with RK saying that Morgan is not going to be sold no matter how far away from the pram he manages to get his toys) can be seen as proof that the board are prepared to play hardball when they feel they have a reasonable chance of winning! Great buy, welcome to the club, and now let's get going on the new season! COYR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!! Tony in Liberia
  • Score: 27

11:20pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

nomorerumours wrote:
one in the crowd wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
£10 million spent on a TOP keeper who is 3rd choice for a country rated 1 place below Bosnia in the latest FIFA rankings. Who spent most of last season watching the ball through binoculars, as his forwards piled on the goals against teams of pub league standard. But who has conceded SIX goals in his last TWO games against a side of League 2 standard. TOP!!
I predict the score next weekend against Liverpool will be :-

Liverpool 3 - Southampton 1

Then you will be panicking and rushing to spend money on filling the gaps in your team that you should have filled earlier, but didn't want to spend the cash on !
When be beat you (2-0) next Sunday, will you promise to leave us alone on this site? I'm amazed that you have so much time for us - you're obviously rejected by other L'pool fans just as Sammy2sheds is on our site. Perhaps you live in his spare shed!
Sorry,that was my fault,I mentioned Liverhampton in a previous post,which automatically triggered the troll gong under his bridge,and woke him up!
[quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: £10 million spent on a TOP keeper who is 3rd choice for a country rated 1 place below Bosnia in the latest FIFA rankings. Who spent most of last season watching the ball through binoculars, as his forwards piled on the goals against teams of pub league standard. But who has conceded SIX goals in his last TWO games against a side of League 2 standard. TOP!![/p][/quote]I predict the score next weekend against Liverpool will be :- Liverpool 3 - Southampton 1 Then you will be panicking and rushing to spend money on filling the gaps in your team that you should have filled earlier, but didn't want to spend the cash on ![/p][/quote]When be beat you (2-0) next Sunday, will you promise to leave us alone on this site? I'm amazed that you have so much time for us - you're obviously rejected by other L'pool fans just as Sammy2sheds is on our site. Perhaps you live in his spare shed![/p][/quote]Sorry,that was my fault,I mentioned Liverhampton in a previous post,which automatically triggered the troll gong under his bridge,and woke him up! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 5

11:25pm Sat 9 Aug 14

kingsaint76 says...

Saint Clements wrote:
Graham, North of Watford wrote:
Oh Happy Day. If he is only half the Goalkeeper that Niemi was, he is still a star.

He's obviously going to be better because he is English and if ANYONE finds ANYTHING negative about his signing I shall go to bed and give up!!!!
Couldn't agree more. True statement of intent. Also like the reference to Niemi - just shades Flowers as my favourite Saints keeper. Bold statement, but I'm thinking he could develop into the best of all of them.

Rojo, Redmond and Hernandez next please. Then we'll have the Spuds firmly in our sights.
Defo about Redmond, I think the others might be out of our reach, we need a centre half, Yoshida showed some OK touches this evening but still im nervous everything he has the ball, Bertrand looked the real deal!! My favourite has to be John Burridge!!
[quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham, North of Watford[/bold] wrote: Oh Happy Day. If he is only half the Goalkeeper that Niemi was, he is still a star. He's obviously going to be better because he is English and if ANYONE finds ANYTHING negative about his signing I shall go to bed and give up!!!![/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. True statement of intent. Also like the reference to Niemi - just shades Flowers as my favourite Saints keeper. Bold statement, but I'm thinking he could develop into the best of all of them. Rojo, Redmond and Hernandez next please. Then we'll have the Spuds firmly in our sights.[/p][/quote]Defo about Redmond, I think the others might be out of our reach, we need a centre half, Yoshida showed some OK touches this evening but still im nervous everything he has the ball, Bertrand looked the real deal!! My favourite has to be John Burridge!! kingsaint76
  • Score: 4

11:36pm Sat 9 Aug 14

bazza says...

dont know much about him but I think a 30 million pound striker is much more wot we need
dont know much about him but I think a 30 million pound striker is much more wot we need bazza
  • Score: -3

11:42pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

kingsaint76 wrote:
Saint Clements wrote:
Graham, North of Watford wrote:
Oh Happy Day. If he is only half the Goalkeeper that Niemi was, he is still a star.

He's obviously going to be better because he is English and if ANYONE finds ANYTHING negative about his signing I shall go to bed and give up!!!!
Couldn't agree more. True statement of intent. Also like the reference to Niemi - just shades Flowers as my favourite Saints keeper. Bold statement, but I'm thinking he could develop into the best of all of them.

Rojo, Redmond and Hernandez next please. Then we'll have the Spuds firmly in our sights.
Defo about Redmond, I think the others might be out of our reach, we need a centre half, Yoshida showed some OK touches this evening but still im nervous everything he has the ball, Bertrand looked the real deal!! My favourite has to be John Burridge!!
Eric Martin is my man,how he never got games for Scotland,I will never understand.Throwing the warm up balls into a sack just before kick off was always entertaining too.
[quote][p][bold]kingsaint76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham, North of Watford[/bold] wrote: Oh Happy Day. If he is only half the Goalkeeper that Niemi was, he is still a star. He's obviously going to be better because he is English and if ANYONE finds ANYTHING negative about his signing I shall go to bed and give up!!!![/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. True statement of intent. Also like the reference to Niemi - just shades Flowers as my favourite Saints keeper. Bold statement, but I'm thinking he could develop into the best of all of them. Rojo, Redmond and Hernandez next please. Then we'll have the Spuds firmly in our sights.[/p][/quote]Defo about Redmond, I think the others might be out of our reach, we need a centre half, Yoshida showed some OK touches this evening but still im nervous everything he has the ball, Bertrand looked the real deal!! My favourite has to be John Burridge!![/p][/quote]Eric Martin is my man,how he never got games for Scotland,I will never understand.Throwing the warm up balls into a sack just before kick off was always entertaining too. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 10

11:45pm Sat 9 Aug 14

FleetSaint says...

In my opinion Boruc was average in goal last year. £10M is a stupid amount to pay for a keeper but I am sure Fraser will be an improvement. What the plan is to do is improve what we have. Not sure Tadic and Pelle are better than Lallana and Lambert but time will tell. Too late now to sit on £92M and time to spend it.
In my opinion Boruc was average in goal last year. £10M is a stupid amount to pay for a keeper but I am sure Fraser will be an improvement. What the plan is to do is improve what we have. Not sure Tadic and Pelle are better than Lallana and Lambert but time will tell. Too late now to sit on £92M and time to spend it. FleetSaint
  • Score: 0

11:51pm Sat 9 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
kingsaint76 wrote:
Saint Clements wrote:
Graham, North of Watford wrote:
Oh Happy Day. If he is only half the Goalkeeper that Niemi was, he is still a star.

He's obviously going to be better because he is English and if ANYONE finds ANYTHING negative about his signing I shall go to bed and give up!!!!
Couldn't agree more. True statement of intent. Also like the reference to Niemi - just shades Flowers as my favourite Saints keeper. Bold statement, but I'm thinking he could develop into the best of all of them.

Rojo, Redmond and Hernandez next please. Then we'll have the Spuds firmly in our sights.
Defo about Redmond, I think the others might be out of our reach, we need a centre half, Yoshida showed some OK touches this evening but still im nervous everything he has the ball, Bertrand looked the real deal!! My favourite has to be John Burridge!!
Eric Martin is my man,how he never got games for Scotland,I will never understand.Throwing the warm up balls into a sack just before kick off was always entertaining too.
I am proud to say I was Eric Martins paper boy, when he lived in Ethelbert Avenue, Ken Wimshurst lived there in the same house before him.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingsaint76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham, North of Watford[/bold] wrote: Oh Happy Day. If he is only half the Goalkeeper that Niemi was, he is still a star. He's obviously going to be better because he is English and if ANYONE finds ANYTHING negative about his signing I shall go to bed and give up!!!![/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. True statement of intent. Also like the reference to Niemi - just shades Flowers as my favourite Saints keeper. Bold statement, but I'm thinking he could develop into the best of all of them. Rojo, Redmond and Hernandez next please. Then we'll have the Spuds firmly in our sights.[/p][/quote]Defo about Redmond, I think the others might be out of our reach, we need a centre half, Yoshida showed some OK touches this evening but still im nervous everything he has the ball, Bertrand looked the real deal!! My favourite has to be John Burridge!![/p][/quote]Eric Martin is my man,how he never got games for Scotland,I will never understand.Throwing the warm up balls into a sack just before kick off was always entertaining too.[/p][/quote]I am proud to say I was Eric Martins paper boy, when he lived in Ethelbert Avenue, Ken Wimshurst lived there in the same house before him. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 10

11:58pm Sat 9 Aug 14

randre says...

Dgginger wrote:
This signing shows what a mess the club is in at the moment, hopefully long term he does well for us but....

He's never worth ten million

Why have we waited so long to get it done ? He could have got injured in the dead rubber in the Champions League the other night ...maybe there is a reason but to buy a new goalkeeper and not even give him a chance to play in a friendly is utter stupidity we could have bought him two days ago, or better still two months ago.

Now everyone knows we have all the money in the world ...they are going to hold out aren't they...

I don't watch Scottiish football but I wonder how good he is at Celtic he must get some very easy games he'll certainly be busier playing for us that's for sure, especially if we don't buy some defenders.

As it stands we must pray that Koeman is right about Tadic and Pelle because if he's not we are in danger they've never played in the Premier League remember one of my biggest fear is that they play well in the first few weeks and then fade ...fingers crossed they are good enough.

Maybe we will be in better shape come September the first but we are certainly not in a good place right now.....and I don't see how we can win the argument with Schnederlin unless he changes his mind.

Hopefully we have so much money we can't fail to get in some quality in but, my goodness, we are making a drama out of it....
I as m in disbelief that you are looking at this signing as a negative.

If you have seen Fraser Forster play in the champions league, SPL or when he gas played for England you would surely understand that he is a top quality player. Has it occurred to you that Celtic would not want to lose one of their key players? Buying a player in real life is not as simple as buying a car!!

Some supporters moan when we don't sign players and then even moan when we do. I just don't get it.
[quote][p][bold]Dgginger[/bold] wrote: This signing shows what a mess the club is in at the moment, hopefully long term he does well for us but.... He's never worth ten million Why have we waited so long to get it done ? He could have got injured in the dead rubber in the Champions League the other night ...maybe there is a reason but to buy a new goalkeeper and not even give him a chance to play in a friendly is utter stupidity we could have bought him two days ago, or better still two months ago. Now everyone knows we have all the money in the world ...they are going to hold out aren't they... I don't watch Scottiish football but I wonder how good he is at Celtic he must get some very easy games he'll certainly be busier playing for us that's for sure, especially if we don't buy some defenders. As it stands we must pray that Koeman is right about Tadic and Pelle because if he's not we are in danger they've never played in the Premier League remember one of my biggest fear is that they play well in the first few weeks and then fade ...fingers crossed they are good enough. Maybe we will be in better shape come September the first but we are certainly not in a good place right now.....and I don't see how we can win the argument with Schnederlin unless he changes his mind. Hopefully we have so much money we can't fail to get in some quality in but, my goodness, we are making a drama out of it....[/p][/quote]I as m in disbelief that you are looking at this signing as a negative. If you have seen Fraser Forster play in the champions league, SPL or when he gas played for England you would surely understand that he is a top quality player. Has it occurred to you that Celtic would not want to lose one of their key players? Buying a player in real life is not as simple as buying a car!! Some supporters moan when we don't sign players and then even moan when we do. I just don't get it. randre
  • Score: 16

12:06am Sun 10 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
kingsaint76 wrote:
Saint Clements wrote:
Graham, North of Watford wrote:
Oh Happy Day. If he is only half the Goalkeeper that Niemi was, he is still a star.

He's obviously going to be better because he is English and if ANYONE finds ANYTHING negative about his signing I shall go to bed and give up!!!!
Couldn't agree more. True statement of intent. Also like the reference to Niemi - just shades Flowers as my favourite Saints keeper. Bold statement, but I'm thinking he could develop into the best of all of them.

Rojo, Redmond and Hernandez next please. Then we'll have the Spuds firmly in our sights.
Defo about Redmond, I think the others might be out of our reach, we need a centre half, Yoshida showed some OK touches this evening but still im nervous everything he has the ball, Bertrand looked the real deal!! My favourite has to be John Burridge!!
Eric Martin is my man,how he never got games for Scotland,I will never understand.Throwing the warm up balls into a sack just before kick off was always entertaining too.
I am proud to say I was Eric Martins paper boy, when he lived in Ethelbert Avenue, Ken Wimshurst lived there in the same house before him.
Did you have an Echo round? I did,I'd just got started one afternoon,with a heavy bag,and got chased out of a garden by a Jack Rusell terrier. Before it had my ankles I didn't have time to open the gate,so I just had to leap it,bag and all.I'd be lucky if I even got to the gate now,let alone jump over it! Lived opposite Frank Saul in C/Ford years ago.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingsaint76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham, North of Watford[/bold] wrote: Oh Happy Day. If he is only half the Goalkeeper that Niemi was, he is still a star. He's obviously going to be better because he is English and if ANYONE finds ANYTHING negative about his signing I shall go to bed and give up!!!![/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. True statement of intent. Also like the reference to Niemi - just shades Flowers as my favourite Saints keeper. Bold statement, but I'm thinking he could develop into the best of all of them. Rojo, Redmond and Hernandez next please. Then we'll have the Spuds firmly in our sights.[/p][/quote]Defo about Redmond, I think the others might be out of our reach, we need a centre half, Yoshida showed some OK touches this evening but still im nervous everything he has the ball, Bertrand looked the real deal!! My favourite has to be John Burridge!![/p][/quote]Eric Martin is my man,how he never got games for Scotland,I will never understand.Throwing the warm up balls into a sack just before kick off was always entertaining too.[/p][/quote]I am proud to say I was Eric Martins paper boy, when he lived in Ethelbert Avenue, Ken Wimshurst lived there in the same house before him.[/p][/quote]Did you have an Echo round? I did,I'd just got started one afternoon,with a heavy bag,and got chased out of a garden by a Jack Rusell terrier. Before it had my ankles I didn't have time to open the gate,so I just had to leap it,bag and all.I'd be lucky if I even got to the gate now,let alone jump over it! Lived opposite Frank Saul in C/Ford years ago. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 4

12:10am Sun 10 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
kingsaint76 wrote:
Saint Clements wrote:
Graham, North of Watford wrote:
Oh Happy Day. If he is only half the Goalkeeper that Niemi was, he is still a star.

He's obviously going to be better because he is English and if ANYONE finds ANYTHING negative about his signing I shall go to bed and give up!!!!
Couldn't agree more. True statement of intent. Also like the reference to Niemi - just shades Flowers as my favourite Saints keeper. Bold statement, but I'm thinking he could develop into the best of all of them.

Rojo, Redmond and Hernandez next please. Then we'll have the Spuds firmly in our sights.
Defo about Redmond, I think the others might be out of our reach, we need a centre half, Yoshida showed some OK touches this evening but still im nervous everything he has the ball, Bertrand looked the real deal!! My favourite has to be John Burridge!!
Eric Martin is my man,how he never got games for Scotland,I will never understand.Throwing the warm up balls into a sack just before kick off was always entertaining too.
I am proud to say I was Eric Martins paper boy, when he lived in Ethelbert Avenue, Ken Wimshurst lived there in the same house before him.
Did you have an Echo round? I did,I'd just got started one afternoon,with a heavy bag,and got chased out of a garden by a Jack Rusell terrier. Before it had my ankles I didn't have time to open the gate,so I just had to leap it,bag and all.I'd be lucky if I even got to the gate now,let alone jump over it! Lived opposite Frank Saul in C/Ford years ago.
Morning, Echo and Sunday Rounds, got nipped by a Collie once but otherwise unscathed, typical Scot never tipped at Christmas!
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingsaint76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham, North of Watford[/bold] wrote: Oh Happy Day. If he is only half the Goalkeeper that Niemi was, he is still a star. He's obviously going to be better because he is English and if ANYONE finds ANYTHING negative about his signing I shall go to bed and give up!!!![/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. True statement of intent. Also like the reference to Niemi - just shades Flowers as my favourite Saints keeper. Bold statement, but I'm thinking he could develop into the best of all of them. Rojo, Redmond and Hernandez next please. Then we'll have the Spuds firmly in our sights.[/p][/quote]Defo about Redmond, I think the others might be out of our reach, we need a centre half, Yoshida showed some OK touches this evening but still im nervous everything he has the ball, Bertrand looked the real deal!! My favourite has to be John Burridge!![/p][/quote]Eric Martin is my man,how he never got games for Scotland,I will never understand.Throwing the warm up balls into a sack just before kick off was always entertaining too.[/p][/quote]I am proud to say I was Eric Martins paper boy, when he lived in Ethelbert Avenue, Ken Wimshurst lived there in the same house before him.[/p][/quote]Did you have an Echo round? I did,I'd just got started one afternoon,with a heavy bag,and got chased out of a garden by a Jack Rusell terrier. Before it had my ankles I didn't have time to open the gate,so I just had to leap it,bag and all.I'd be lucky if I even got to the gate now,let alone jump over it! Lived opposite Frank Saul in C/Ford years ago.[/p][/quote]Morning, Echo and Sunday Rounds, got nipped by a Collie once but otherwise unscathed, typical Scot never tipped at Christmas! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

12:13am Sun 10 Aug 14

Jesus_02 says...

10m is a lot for a keeper, I would have thought that Craig Gordon on a free would have been enough to strenthen the goal keeper position. Boruc has easily been the best keeper since Niemi.

That said. He is a good Keeper and its not my money. I am Begining to believe that we have a chance of signing Rojo and Hernandez. I will sleep a little better tonight!
10m is a lot for a keeper, I would have thought that Craig Gordon on a free would have been enough to strenthen the goal keeper position. Boruc has easily been the best keeper since Niemi. That said. He is a good Keeper and its not my money. I am Begining to believe that we have a chance of signing Rojo and Hernandez. I will sleep a little better tonight! Jesus_02
  • Score: 2

12:14am Sun 10 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
kingsaint76 wrote:
Saint Clements wrote:
Graham, North of Watford wrote:
Oh Happy Day. If he is only half the Goalkeeper that Niemi was, he is still a star.

He's obviously going to be better because he is English and if ANYONE finds ANYTHING negative about his signing I shall go to bed and give up!!!!
Couldn't agree more. True statement of intent. Also like the reference to Niemi - just shades Flowers as my favourite Saints keeper. Bold statement, but I'm thinking he could develop into the best of all of them.

Rojo, Redmond and Hernandez next please. Then we'll have the Spuds firmly in our sights.
Defo about Redmond, I think the others might be out of our reach, we need a centre half, Yoshida showed some OK touches this evening but still im nervous everything he has the ball, Bertrand looked the real deal!! My favourite has to be John Burridge!!
Eric Martin is my man,how he never got games for Scotland,I will never understand.Throwing the warm up balls into a sack just before kick off was always entertaining too.
I am proud to say I was Eric Martins paper boy, when he lived in Ethelbert Avenue, Ken Wimshurst lived there in the same house before him.
Did you have an Echo round? I did,I'd just got started one afternoon,with a heavy bag,and got chased out of a garden by a Jack Rusell terrier. Before it had my ankles I didn't have time to open the gate,so I just had to leap it,bag and all.I'd be lucky if I even got to the gate now,let alone jump over it! Lived opposite Frank Saul in C/Ford years ago.
Morning, Echo and Sunday Rounds, got nipped by a Collie once but otherwise unscathed, typical Scot never tipped at Christmas!
Used to hate those early rounds, especially in the rain,in the winter.Makes me shudder to think about it now.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingsaint76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham, North of Watford[/bold] wrote: Oh Happy Day. If he is only half the Goalkeeper that Niemi was, he is still a star. He's obviously going to be better because he is English and if ANYONE finds ANYTHING negative about his signing I shall go to bed and give up!!!![/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. True statement of intent. Also like the reference to Niemi - just shades Flowers as my favourite Saints keeper. Bold statement, but I'm thinking he could develop into the best of all of them. Rojo, Redmond and Hernandez next please. Then we'll have the Spuds firmly in our sights.[/p][/quote]Defo about Redmond, I think the others might be out of our reach, we need a centre half, Yoshida showed some OK touches this evening but still im nervous everything he has the ball, Bertrand looked the real deal!! My favourite has to be John Burridge!![/p][/quote]Eric Martin is my man,how he never got games for Scotland,I will never understand.Throwing the warm up balls into a sack just before kick off was always entertaining too.[/p][/quote]I am proud to say I was Eric Martins paper boy, when he lived in Ethelbert Avenue, Ken Wimshurst lived there in the same house before him.[/p][/quote]Did you have an Echo round? I did,I'd just got started one afternoon,with a heavy bag,and got chased out of a garden by a Jack Rusell terrier. Before it had my ankles I didn't have time to open the gate,so I just had to leap it,bag and all.I'd be lucky if I even got to the gate now,let alone jump over it! Lived opposite Frank Saul in C/Ford years ago.[/p][/quote]Morning, Echo and Sunday Rounds, got nipped by a Collie once but otherwise unscathed, typical Scot never tipped at Christmas![/p][/quote]Used to hate those early rounds, especially in the rain,in the winter.Makes me shudder to think about it now. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

12:14am Sun 10 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

randre wrote:
Dgginger wrote:
This signing shows what a mess the club is in at the moment, hopefully long term he does well for us but....

He's never worth ten million

Why have we waited so long to get it done ? He could have got injured in the dead rubber in the Champions League the other night ...maybe there is a reason but to buy a new goalkeeper and not even give him a chance to play in a friendly is utter stupidity we could have bought him two days ago, or better still two months ago.

Now everyone knows we have all the money in the world ...they are going to hold out aren't they...

I don't watch Scottiish football but I wonder how good he is at Celtic he must get some very easy games he'll certainly be busier playing for us that's for sure, especially if we don't buy some defenders.

As it stands we must pray that Koeman is right about Tadic and Pelle because if he's not we are in danger they've never played in the Premier League remember one of my biggest fear is that they play well in the first few weeks and then fade ...fingers crossed they are good enough.

Maybe we will be in better shape come September the first but we are certainly not in a good place right now.....and I don't see how we can win the argument with Schnederlin unless he changes his mind.

Hopefully we have so much money we can't fail to get in some quality in but, my goodness, we are making a drama out of it....
I as m in disbelief that you are looking at this signing as a negative.

If you have seen Fraser Forster play in the champions league, SPL or when he gas played for England you would surely understand that he is a top quality player. Has it occurred to you that Celtic would not want to lose one of their key players? Buying a player in real life is not as simple as buying a car!!

Some supporters moan when we don't sign players and then even moan when we do. I just don't get it.
Neggies reserve the right to complain, except those that aren't genuine and just post to wind people up, thin line divides them. It's all legal.
[quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dgginger[/bold] wrote: This signing shows what a mess the club is in at the moment, hopefully long term he does well for us but.... He's never worth ten million Why have we waited so long to get it done ? He could have got injured in the dead rubber in the Champions League the other night ...maybe there is a reason but to buy a new goalkeeper and not even give him a chance to play in a friendly is utter stupidity we could have bought him two days ago, or better still two months ago. Now everyone knows we have all the money in the world ...they are going to hold out aren't they... I don't watch Scottiish football but I wonder how good he is at Celtic he must get some very easy games he'll certainly be busier playing for us that's for sure, especially if we don't buy some defenders. As it stands we must pray that Koeman is right about Tadic and Pelle because if he's not we are in danger they've never played in the Premier League remember one of my biggest fear is that they play well in the first few weeks and then fade ...fingers crossed they are good enough. Maybe we will be in better shape come September the first but we are certainly not in a good place right now.....and I don't see how we can win the argument with Schnederlin unless he changes his mind. Hopefully we have so much money we can't fail to get in some quality in but, my goodness, we are making a drama out of it....[/p][/quote]I as m in disbelief that you are looking at this signing as a negative. If you have seen Fraser Forster play in the champions league, SPL or when he gas played for England you would surely understand that he is a top quality player. Has it occurred to you that Celtic would not want to lose one of their key players? Buying a player in real life is not as simple as buying a car!! Some supporters moan when we don't sign players and then even moan when we do. I just don't get it.[/p][/quote]Neggies reserve the right to complain, except those that aren't genuine and just post to wind people up, thin line divides them. It's all legal. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 4

12:16am Sun 10 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
kingsaint76 wrote:
Saint Clements wrote:
Graham, North of Watford wrote:
Oh Happy Day. If he is only half the Goalkeeper that Niemi was, he is still a star.

He's obviously going to be better because he is English and if ANYONE finds ANYTHING negative about his signing I shall go to bed and give up!!!!
Couldn't agree more. True statement of intent. Also like the reference to Niemi - just shades Flowers as my favourite Saints keeper. Bold statement, but I'm thinking he could develop into the best of all of them.

Rojo, Redmond and Hernandez next please. Then we'll have the Spuds firmly in our sights.
Defo about Redmond, I think the others might be out of our reach, we need a centre half, Yoshida showed some OK touches this evening but still im nervous everything he has the ball, Bertrand looked the real deal!! My favourite has to be John Burridge!!
Eric Martin is my man,how he never got games for Scotland,I will never understand.Throwing the warm up balls into a sack just before kick off was always entertaining too.
I am proud to say I was Eric Martins paper boy, when he lived in Ethelbert Avenue, Ken Wimshurst lived there in the same house before him.
Did you have an Echo round? I did,I'd just got started one afternoon,with a heavy bag,and got chased out of a garden by a Jack Rusell terrier. Before it had my ankles I didn't have time to open the gate,so I just had to leap it,bag and all.I'd be lucky if I even got to the gate now,let alone jump over it! Lived opposite Frank Saul in C/Ford years ago.
Morning, Echo and Sunday Rounds, got nipped by a Collie once but otherwise unscathed, typical Scot never tipped at Christmas!
Used to hate those early rounds, especially in the rain,in the winter.Makes me shudder to think about it now.
To be fair in those days players played a lot of games around Christmas and were never around their homes to tip a mere Paper Boy.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingsaint76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham, North of Watford[/bold] wrote: Oh Happy Day. If he is only half the Goalkeeper that Niemi was, he is still a star. He's obviously going to be better because he is English and if ANYONE finds ANYTHING negative about his signing I shall go to bed and give up!!!![/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. True statement of intent. Also like the reference to Niemi - just shades Flowers as my favourite Saints keeper. Bold statement, but I'm thinking he could develop into the best of all of them. Rojo, Redmond and Hernandez next please. Then we'll have the Spuds firmly in our sights.[/p][/quote]Defo about Redmond, I think the others might be out of our reach, we need a centre half, Yoshida showed some OK touches this evening but still im nervous everything he has the ball, Bertrand looked the real deal!! My favourite has to be John Burridge!![/p][/quote]Eric Martin is my man,how he never got games for Scotland,I will never understand.Throwing the warm up balls into a sack just before kick off was always entertaining too.[/p][/quote]I am proud to say I was Eric Martins paper boy, when he lived in Ethelbert Avenue, Ken Wimshurst lived there in the same house before him.[/p][/quote]Did you have an Echo round? I did,I'd just got started one afternoon,with a heavy bag,and got chased out of a garden by a Jack Rusell terrier. Before it had my ankles I didn't have time to open the gate,so I just had to leap it,bag and all.I'd be lucky if I even got to the gate now,let alone jump over it! Lived opposite Frank Saul in C/Ford years ago.[/p][/quote]Morning, Echo and Sunday Rounds, got nipped by a Collie once but otherwise unscathed, typical Scot never tipped at Christmas![/p][/quote]Used to hate those early rounds, especially in the rain,in the winter.Makes me shudder to think about it now.[/p][/quote]To be fair in those days players played a lot of games around Christmas and were never around their homes to tip a mere Paper Boy. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

12:19am Sun 10 Aug 14

BehindEnemyLines says...

Really need to judge this one at the end of the transfer windows, FF is no doubt a quality keeper and will be a great addition, a real positive signing from Saints, but probably a lower priority to add after Cb's x2 (sorry jose) , winger and striker, been said many times on here before but can't see Boruc warming the bench so really unless they knew he was off anyway we have just swapped 2 good goalkeepers. Hope not sounding too negative great to see a top signing and following from Shilts, Woods, Flowers and Beasant in a quality line of England no.1's at Saints.
Really need to judge this one at the end of the transfer windows, FF is no doubt a quality keeper and will be a great addition, a real positive signing from Saints, but probably a lower priority to add after Cb's x2 (sorry jose) , winger and striker, been said many times on here before but can't see Boruc warming the bench so really unless they knew he was off anyway we have just swapped 2 good goalkeepers. Hope not sounding too negative great to see a top signing and following from Shilts, Woods, Flowers and Beasant in a quality line of England no.1's at Saints. BehindEnemyLines
  • Score: 0

12:26am Sun 10 Aug 14

Jesus_02 says...

one in the crowd wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
£10 million spent on a TOP keeper who is 3rd choice for a country rated 1 place below Bosnia in the latest FIFA rankings. Who spent most of last season watching the ball through binoculars, as his forwards piled on the goals against teams of pub league standard. But who has conceded SIX goals in his last TWO games against a side of League 2 standard. TOP!!
I predict the score next weekend against Liverpool will be :-

Liverpool 3 - Southampton 1

Then you will be panicking and rushing to spend money on filling the gaps in your team that you should have filled earlier, but didn't want to spend the cash on !
Liverpool don't have the strikers for 3-1. I don't think anyone would put their morgage on saints getting a result but we won't be panicking by any stretch. We have favourable fixtures and I think that will give us time to gel. We are not going to win the League after all. But then neither are Liverpool... I don't even think they will come second.
[quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: £10 million spent on a TOP keeper who is 3rd choice for a country rated 1 place below Bosnia in the latest FIFA rankings. Who spent most of last season watching the ball through binoculars, as his forwards piled on the goals against teams of pub league standard. But who has conceded SIX goals in his last TWO games against a side of League 2 standard. TOP!![/p][/quote]I predict the score next weekend against Liverpool will be :- Liverpool 3 - Southampton 1 Then you will be panicking and rushing to spend money on filling the gaps in your team that you should have filled earlier, but didn't want to spend the cash on ![/p][/quote]Liverpool don't have the strikers for 3-1. I don't think anyone would put their morgage on saints getting a result but we won't be panicking by any stretch. We have favourable fixtures and I think that will give us time to gel. We are not going to win the League after all. But then neither are Liverpool... I don't even think they will come second. Jesus_02
  • Score: 5

12:26am Sun 10 Aug 14

Tony in Liberia says...

My favourite keeper was Campbell Forsyth, magic before he got injured - and in goal for my first game at The Dell. Closely followed by Gerry Gurr, because his name always made me laugh as a kid. Then Shilts, as close to perfection between the sticks as it gets, but I never forgave him & Mark Wright for jumping ship to Derby.
My favourite keeper was Campbell Forsyth, magic before he got injured - and in goal for my first game at The Dell. Closely followed by Gerry Gurr, because his name always made me laugh as a kid. Then Shilts, as close to perfection between the sticks as it gets, but I never forgave him & Mark Wright for jumping ship to Derby. Tony in Liberia
  • Score: 4

12:38am Sun 10 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Tony in Liberia wrote:
My favourite keeper was Campbell Forsyth, magic before he got injured - and in goal for my first game at The Dell. Closely followed by Gerry Gurr, because his name always made me laugh as a kid. Then Shilts, as close to perfection between the sticks as it gets, but I never forgave him & Mark Wright for jumping ship to Derby.
I never forgave Colin Todd,for not coming to us from Derby. Just about one of the only big names,that managed to slip through Lawrie Mac's fingers!
[quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: My favourite keeper was Campbell Forsyth, magic before he got injured - and in goal for my first game at The Dell. Closely followed by Gerry Gurr, because his name always made me laugh as a kid. Then Shilts, as close to perfection between the sticks as it gets, but I never forgave him & Mark Wright for jumping ship to Derby.[/p][/quote]I never forgave Colin Todd,for not coming to us from Derby. Just about one of the only big names,that managed to slip through Lawrie Mac's fingers! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

12:53am Sun 10 Aug 14

randre says...

On a different subject, in my opinion all our new signings looked good today. I feel Tadic and Taider are quality players and both look like they could be the real deal. I was very impressed with what I have seen at this early stage. Bertrand also looked the part.

Times they are a changing'.
On a different subject, in my opinion all our new signings looked good today. I feel Tadic and Taider are quality players and both look like they could be the real deal. I was very impressed with what I have seen at this early stage. Bertrand also looked the part. Times they are a changing'. randre
  • Score: 16

1:00am Sun 10 Aug 14

yellowcard says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
one in the crowd wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
£10 million spent on a TOP keeper who is 3rd choice for a country rated 1 place below Bosnia in the latest FIFA rankings. Who spent most of last season watching the ball through binoculars, as his forwards piled on the goals against teams of pub league standard. But who has conceded SIX goals in his last TWO games against a side of League 2 standard. TOP!!
I predict the score next weekend against Liverpool will be :-

Liverpool 3 - Southampton 1

Then you will be panicking and rushing to spend money on filling the gaps in your team that you should have filled earlier, but didn't want to spend the cash on !
When be beat you (2-0) next Sunday, will you promise to leave us alone on this site? I'm amazed that you have so much time for us - you're obviously rejected by other L'pool fans just as Sammy2sheds is on our site. Perhaps you live in his spare shed!
Sorry,that was my fault,I mentioned Liverhampton in a previous post,which automatically triggered the troll gong under his bridge,and woke him up!
you bad person
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: £10 million spent on a TOP keeper who is 3rd choice for a country rated 1 place below Bosnia in the latest FIFA rankings. Who spent most of last season watching the ball through binoculars, as his forwards piled on the goals against teams of pub league standard. But who has conceded SIX goals in his last TWO games against a side of League 2 standard. TOP!![/p][/quote]I predict the score next weekend against Liverpool will be :- Liverpool 3 - Southampton 1 Then you will be panicking and rushing to spend money on filling the gaps in your team that you should have filled earlier, but didn't want to spend the cash on ![/p][/quote]When be beat you (2-0) next Sunday, will you promise to leave us alone on this site? I'm amazed that you have so much time for us - you're obviously rejected by other L'pool fans just as Sammy2sheds is on our site. Perhaps you live in his spare shed![/p][/quote]Sorry,that was my fault,I mentioned Liverhampton in a previous post,which automatically triggered the troll gong under his bridge,and woke him up![/p][/quote]you bad person yellowcard
  • Score: 0

1:12am Sun 10 Aug 14

FortWorth_Saint says...

Somebody on this blog the other day said I had to decide whether I was a neggie or one of the others. What do you call them? Possies?

Anyway, I thought this was going to happen. The Saints also have the current England goalkeeper coach, Dave Watson, so it is quite a move.
Somebody on this blog the other day said I had to decide whether I was a neggie or one of the others. What do you call them? Possies? Anyway, I thought this was going to happen. The Saints also have the current England goalkeeper coach, Dave Watson, so it is quite a move. FortWorth_Saint
  • Score: 4

3:05am Sun 10 Aug 14

Shareholder says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
saintmicky wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1.

£10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club.

oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?
YES! I have been a bit of a 'neggie' this summer, now starting to feel as though I could be wrong!
Would probably want to see the first 3 premier league points in the bag before I become a 'happy clapper' but the relevence of this signing cannot be overlooked, happy days indeed!!

STID
welcome to the club, you will find us happy clappers are quite a friendly bunch, who will not hold your neggie past against you.

like you I will be happy after our first win, would love to see it next week up at liverhampton but that might be a tough game and I will be more than happy with a draw.
Yesterday with all the fuss over Schneiderlin the neggies were all over this site. Today with this news they've all thinned out! I'm quite certain that those of us who have never lost faith will be the ones smiling at the end of all this.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintmicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1. £10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club. oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?[/p][/quote]YES! I have been a bit of a 'neggie' this summer, now starting to feel as though I could be wrong! Would probably want to see the first 3 premier league points in the bag before I become a 'happy clapper' but the relevence of this signing cannot be overlooked, happy days indeed!! STID[/p][/quote]welcome to the club, you will find us happy clappers are quite a friendly bunch, who will not hold your neggie past against you. like you I will be happy after our first win, would love to see it next week up at liverhampton but that might be a tough game and I will be more than happy with a draw.[/p][/quote]Yesterday with all the fuss over Schneiderlin the neggies were all over this site. Today with this news they've all thinned out! I'm quite certain that those of us who have never lost faith will be the ones smiling at the end of all this. Shareholder
  • Score: 5

3:48am Sun 10 Aug 14

Dgginger says...

The lad's been in Miami then Rio ...and several other cities in between, then Glasgow,then Warsaw then Glasgow then Edinbrugh the poor lad's feet have barely touched the ground...now he's got to relocate his whole life to Southampton ...perhaps we could have given him a little more time, that's all I'm trying to say it just shows that we are unstable and it's bound to have an affect on the pitch.
He's been linked with us for weeks for goodness sake ...what was the hold up...Celtic getting in a replacement, that could be it I suppose, doesn't help us much though
We are just very disorganised at the moment, it is not Koemans fault ....he must be wondering what he's gotten into.
The lad's been in Miami then Rio ...and several other cities in between, then Glasgow,then Warsaw then Glasgow then Edinbrugh the poor lad's feet have barely touched the ground...now he's got to relocate his whole life to Southampton ...perhaps we could have given him a little more time, that's all I'm trying to say it just shows that we are unstable and it's bound to have an affect on the pitch. He's been linked with us for weeks for goodness sake ...what was the hold up...Celtic getting in a replacement, that could be it I suppose, doesn't help us much though We are just very disorganised at the moment, it is not Koemans fault ....he must be wondering what he's gotten into. Dgginger
  • Score: -22

5:37am Sun 10 Aug 14

redandy10 says...

I think Forster will end up taking the number 1 shirt and keeping it.

What yesterday's match showed is that we are still missing a few pieces in the jigsaw. A couple of centre backs are badly needed, as well as striker.
I think Forster will end up taking the number 1 shirt and keeping it. What yesterday's match showed is that we are still missing a few pieces in the jigsaw. A couple of centre backs are badly needed, as well as striker. redandy10
  • Score: 5

6:40am Sun 10 Aug 14

thinklikealocal says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
one in the crowd wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
£10 million spent on a TOP keeper who is 3rd choice for a country rated 1 place below Bosnia in the latest FIFA rankings. Who spent most of last season watching the ball through binoculars, as his forwards piled on the goals against teams of pub league standard. But who has conceded SIX goals in his last TWO games against a side of League 2 standard. TOP!!
I predict the score next weekend against Liverpool will be :-

Liverpool 3 - Southampton 1

Then you will be panicking and rushing to spend money on filling the gaps in your team that you should have filled earlier, but didn't want to spend the cash on !
Liverpool don't have the strikers for 3-1. I don't think anyone would put their morgage on saints getting a result but we won't be panicking by any stretch. We have favourable fixtures and I think that will give us time to gel. We are not going to win the League after all. But then neither are Liverpool... I don't even think they will come second.
Or turd.....
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: £10 million spent on a TOP keeper who is 3rd choice for a country rated 1 place below Bosnia in the latest FIFA rankings. Who spent most of last season watching the ball through binoculars, as his forwards piled on the goals against teams of pub league standard. But who has conceded SIX goals in his last TWO games against a side of League 2 standard. TOP!![/p][/quote]I predict the score next weekend against Liverpool will be :- Liverpool 3 - Southampton 1 Then you will be panicking and rushing to spend money on filling the gaps in your team that you should have filled earlier, but didn't want to spend the cash on ![/p][/quote]Liverpool don't have the strikers for 3-1. I don't think anyone would put their morgage on saints getting a result but we won't be panicking by any stretch. We have favourable fixtures and I think that will give us time to gel. We are not going to win the League after all. But then neither are Liverpool... I don't even think they will come second.[/p][/quote]Or turd..... thinklikealocal
  • Score: -1

6:51am Sun 10 Aug 14

Sammy2sheds says...

redandy10 wrote:
I think Forster will end up taking the number 1 shirt and keeping it.

What yesterday's match showed is that we are still missing a few pieces in the jigsaw. A couple of centre backs are badly needed, as well as striker.
What yesterdays game showed us is that pelle is crap and tadic out of his depth.plus we need 2 strikers and 2 cbs and a winger.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: I think Forster will end up taking the number 1 shirt and keeping it. What yesterday's match showed is that we are still missing a few pieces in the jigsaw. A couple of centre backs are badly needed, as well as striker.[/p][/quote]What yesterdays game showed us is that pelle is crap and tadic out of his depth.plus we need 2 strikers and 2 cbs and a winger. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 23

6:51am Sun 10 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
InCortesewetrust wrote:
With fonte and yoshida in heart of defence he will be earning his crust this season, can't we play boruc and forster in goal?
5 goalkeepers now in the first team squad, with your defence my advice is to play them all!!
League 2 , Exeter 1 skunts 1 ..........That's league 2 .....ha ha ha ha ha
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: With fonte and yoshida in heart of defence he will be earning his crust this season, can't we play boruc and forster in goal?[/p][/quote]5 goalkeepers now in the first team squad, with your defence my advice is to play them all!![/p][/quote]League 2 , Exeter 1 skunts 1 ..........That's league 2 .....ha ha ha ha ha J7junctionseven
  • Score: 10

7:00am Sun 10 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
I think Forster will end up taking the number 1 shirt and keeping it.

What yesterday's match showed is that we are still missing a few pieces in the jigsaw. A couple of centre backs are badly needed, as well as striker.
What yesterdays game showed us is that pelle is crap and tadic out of his depth.plus we need 2 strikers and 2 cbs and a winger.
I take it you went then?
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: I think Forster will end up taking the number 1 shirt and keeping it. What yesterday's match showed is that we are still missing a few pieces in the jigsaw. A couple of centre backs are badly needed, as well as striker.[/p][/quote]What yesterdays game showed us is that pelle is crap and tadic out of his depth.plus we need 2 strikers and 2 cbs and a winger.[/p][/quote]I take it you went then? de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 5

7:20am Sun 10 Aug 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Not sure Forster is any better than Boruc but he is a good signing and shows intent.

The game highlighted our lack of quality down the core of the team. We are Screaming out for a top Goalscoring STRIKER plus TWO better CB's.
We either need Morgan back in CM or if he is going then get top money and sign Jordy Classie urgently.

I missed the high tempo, pressing & passing game we got used to.

Thought that the new signings looked OK but not outstanding, early days now ever.

Pelle seems a good target man and is better in the air than Ricky but I don't think he will get as many goals. Desperate for a Goalscorer.

Tadic obviously has quality but did not keep the ball or work as hard as Lalana did. I thought Taider looked more energetic and possibly the better of the two, however neither looked as good as Davis, Wanyama and Cork. Must get Morgan or Classie in urgently.

A good first run out for Isgrove but not sure he is ready yet and to easily knocked off the ball. Mayuka has pace but showed why he is a sub at best. Bertrand looked the best of the new players on yesterday's showing.

Saints should not have told Chambers to stay, he will be a top CB and should have been kept for one more season, sold to cheaply he will be worth double next year, just watch his performances for Arsenal.

Hopefully Gardos proves to be another Lovren, need him in this week.

Most money needed to get the 20 plus goals per season Striker urgently.

The Window closes in only 3 weeks and we still need at least 4 top quality players players who are BETTER not equal to what we have.

Keep working Les, time is running out.

COYR&WS
Not sure Forster is any better than Boruc but he is a good signing and shows intent. The game highlighted our lack of quality down the core of the team. We are Screaming out for a top Goalscoring STRIKER plus TWO better CB's. We either need Morgan back in CM or if he is going then get top money and sign Jordy Classie urgently. I missed the high tempo, pressing & passing game we got used to. Thought that the new signings looked OK but not outstanding, early days now ever. Pelle seems a good target man and is better in the air than Ricky but I don't think he will get as many goals. Desperate for a Goalscorer. Tadic obviously has quality but did not keep the ball or work as hard as Lalana did. I thought Taider looked more energetic and possibly the better of the two, however neither looked as good as Davis, Wanyama and Cork. Must get Morgan or Classie in urgently. A good first run out for Isgrove but not sure he is ready yet and to easily knocked off the ball. Mayuka has pace but showed why he is a sub at best. Bertrand looked the best of the new players on yesterday's showing. Saints should not have told Chambers to stay, he will be a top CB and should have been kept for one more season, sold to cheaply he will be worth double next year, just watch his performances for Arsenal. Hopefully Gardos proves to be another Lovren, need him in this week. Most money needed to get the 20 plus goals per season Striker urgently. The Window closes in only 3 weeks and we still need at least 4 top quality players players who are BETTER not equal to what we have. Keep working Les, time is running out. COYR&WS NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 3

7:23am Sun 10 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
I think Forster will end up taking the number 1 shirt and keeping it.

What yesterday's match showed is that we are still missing a few pieces in the jigsaw. A couple of centre backs are badly needed, as well as striker.
What yesterdays game showed us is that pelle is crap and tadic out of his depth.plus we need 2 strikers and 2 cbs and a winger.
I take it you went then?
Yeah but, no but, yeah but, no but.
Ignore the B!TCH
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: I think Forster will end up taking the number 1 shirt and keeping it. What yesterday's match showed is that we are still missing a few pieces in the jigsaw. A couple of centre backs are badly needed, as well as striker.[/p][/quote]What yesterdays game showed us is that pelle is crap and tadic out of his depth.plus we need 2 strikers and 2 cbs and a winger.[/p][/quote]I take it you went then?[/p][/quote]Yeah but, no but, yeah but, no but. Ignore the B!TCH J7junctionseven
  • Score: 8

7:25am Sun 10 Aug 14

TPFKARTSNINZ says...

Great signing getting Forster in. A statement of intent to the doom & gloom mongers. Now for a defender or two & we will be ready to embarrass Liversouthpoolampton
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Great signing getting Forster in. A statement of intent to the doom & gloom mongers. Now for a defender or two & we will be ready to embarrass Liversouthpoolampton . TPFKARTSNINZ
  • Score: 5

7:37am Sun 10 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

A few people said yesterday that Florin Gardos is a done deal ?
Could be another position we need filling sorted.
A few people said yesterday that Florin Gardos is a done deal ? Could be another position we need filling sorted. J7junctionseven
  • Score: 3

7:42am Sun 10 Aug 14

jls217 says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
I think Forster will end up taking the number 1 shirt and keeping it.

What yesterday's match showed is that we are still missing a few pieces in the jigsaw. A couple of centre backs are badly needed, as well as striker.
What yesterdays game showed us is that pelle is crap and tadic out of his depth.plus we need 2 strikers and 2 cbs and a winger.
I take it you went then?
Well come on Samuel, answer the question the adult has asked you, did you or did you not attend the game you are to scathing about, even your lonely brain cell should be able to work through the question and decide upon a suitable answer - in this case Yes or No, get your mum to help with the big words?

We're waiting 2 rodents.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: I think Forster will end up taking the number 1 shirt and keeping it. What yesterday's match showed is that we are still missing a few pieces in the jigsaw. A couple of centre backs are badly needed, as well as striker.[/p][/quote]What yesterdays game showed us is that pelle is crap and tadic out of his depth.plus we need 2 strikers and 2 cbs and a winger.[/p][/quote]I take it you went then?[/p][/quote]Well come on Samuel, answer the question the adult has asked you, did you or did you not attend the game you are to scathing about, even your lonely brain cell should be able to work through the question and decide upon a suitable answer - in this case Yes or No, get your mum to help with the big words? We're waiting 2 rodents. jls217
  • Score: 5

7:44am Sun 10 Aug 14

jls217 says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
A few people said yesterday that Florin Gardos is a done deal ?
Could be another position we need filling sorted.
I know nothing about this bloke J7 but others on here seem content with the notion so I'll go along with their judgement and say hope it's a done deal soon. Slowly but surely the picture is becoming clear.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: A few people said yesterday that Florin Gardos is a done deal ? Could be another position we need filling sorted.[/p][/quote]I know nothing about this bloke J7 but others on here seem content with the notion so I'll go along with their judgement and say hope it's a done deal soon. Slowly but surely the picture is becoming clear. jls217
  • Score: 2

7:50am Sun 10 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

jls217 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
A few people said yesterday that Florin Gardos is a done deal ?
Could be another position we need filling sorted.
I know nothing about this bloke J7 but others on here seem content with the notion so I'll go along with their judgement and say hope it's a done deal soon. Slowly but surely the picture is becoming clear.
Could be, fingers crossed.
Ignore the 2 dunnie dweller AKA Vicky Pollard.
Don't give her the attention she craves and the B!TCH will eventually disappear down one of her dunnies.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: A few people said yesterday that Florin Gardos is a done deal ? Could be another position we need filling sorted.[/p][/quote]I know nothing about this bloke J7 but others on here seem content with the notion so I'll go along with their judgement and say hope it's a done deal soon. Slowly but surely the picture is becoming clear.[/p][/quote]Could be, fingers crossed. Ignore the 2 dunnie dweller AKA Vicky Pollard. Don't give her the attention she craves and the B!TCH will eventually disappear down one of her dunnies. J7junctionseven
  • Score: 3

8:01am Sun 10 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
jls217 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
A few people said yesterday that Florin Gardos is a done deal ?
Could be another position we need filling sorted.
I know nothing about this bloke J7 but others on here seem content with the notion so I'll go along with their judgement and say hope it's a done deal soon. Slowly but surely the picture is becoming clear.
Could be, fingers crossed.
Ignore the 2 dunnie dweller AKA Vicky Pollard.
Don't give her the attention she craves and the B!TCH will eventually disappear down one of her dunnies.
I usually do ignore it, but it made sweeping statements about our new players that clearly only someone that went to the game could say!

As for Gardos, Ronnie was asked at the press conference that he hadn't been told yet that he had signed, and looked at his watch at the same time. It was reported in his home country's media that he had signed, so maybe he has but who knows.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: A few people said yesterday that Florin Gardos is a done deal ? Could be another position we need filling sorted.[/p][/quote]I know nothing about this bloke J7 but others on here seem content with the notion so I'll go along with their judgement and say hope it's a done deal soon. Slowly but surely the picture is becoming clear.[/p][/quote]Could be, fingers crossed. Ignore the 2 dunnie dweller AKA Vicky Pollard. Don't give her the attention she craves and the B!TCH will eventually disappear down one of her dunnies.[/p][/quote]I usually do ignore it, but it made sweeping statements about our new players that clearly only someone that went to the game could say! As for Gardos, Ronnie was asked at the press conference that he hadn't been told yet that he had signed, and looked at his watch at the same time. It was reported in his home country's media that he had signed, so maybe he has but who knows. de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 3

8:13am Sun 10 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

Dgginger wrote:
The lad's been in Miami then Rio ...and several other cities in between, then Glasgow,then Warsaw then Glasgow then Edinbrugh the poor lad's feet have barely touched the ground...now he's got to relocate his whole life to Southampton ...perhaps we could have given him a little more time, that's all I'm trying to say it just shows that we are unstable and it's bound to have an affect on the pitch.
He's been linked with us for weeks for goodness sake ...what was the hold up...Celtic getting in a replacement, that could be it I suppose, doesn't help us much though
We are just very disorganised at the moment, it is not Koemans fault ....he must be wondering what he's gotten into.
You seem to be saying that we shouldn't sign anyone who played in the recent World Cup and qualifying rounds the Champions League. Is that right?
[quote][p][bold]Dgginger[/bold] wrote: The lad's been in Miami then Rio ...and several other cities in between, then Glasgow,then Warsaw then Glasgow then Edinbrugh the poor lad's feet have barely touched the ground...now he's got to relocate his whole life to Southampton ...perhaps we could have given him a little more time, that's all I'm trying to say it just shows that we are unstable and it's bound to have an affect on the pitch. He's been linked with us for weeks for goodness sake ...what was the hold up...Celtic getting in a replacement, that could be it I suppose, doesn't help us much though We are just very disorganised at the moment, it is not Koemans fault ....he must be wondering what he's gotten into.[/p][/quote]You seem to be saying that we shouldn't sign anyone who played in the recent World Cup and qualifying rounds the Champions League. Is that right? Rising_Son
  • Score: 4

8:19am Sun 10 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

thinklikealocal wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
one in the crowd wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
£10 million spent on a TOP keeper who is 3rd choice for a country rated 1 place below Bosnia in the latest FIFA rankings. Who spent most of last season watching the ball through binoculars, as his forwards piled on the goals against teams of pub league standard. But who has conceded SIX goals in his last TWO games against a side of League 2 standard. TOP!!
I predict the score next weekend against Liverpool will be :-

Liverpool 3 - Southampton 1

Then you will be panicking and rushing to spend money on filling the gaps in your team that you should have filled earlier, but didn't want to spend the cash on !
Liverpool don't have the strikers for 3-1. I don't think anyone would put their morgage on saints getting a result but we won't be panicking by any stretch. We have favourable fixtures and I think that will give us time to gel. We are not going to win the League after all. But then neither are Liverpool... I don't even think they will come second.
Or turd.....
I disagree. I think there is a very good chance they will become turd.
[quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: £10 million spent on a TOP keeper who is 3rd choice for a country rated 1 place below Bosnia in the latest FIFA rankings. Who spent most of last season watching the ball through binoculars, as his forwards piled on the goals against teams of pub league standard. But who has conceded SIX goals in his last TWO games against a side of League 2 standard. TOP!![/p][/quote]I predict the score next weekend against Liverpool will be :- Liverpool 3 - Southampton 1 Then you will be panicking and rushing to spend money on filling the gaps in your team that you should have filled earlier, but didn't want to spend the cash on ![/p][/quote]Liverpool don't have the strikers for 3-1. I don't think anyone would put their morgage on saints getting a result but we won't be panicking by any stretch. We have favourable fixtures and I think that will give us time to gel. We are not going to win the League after all. But then neither are Liverpool... I don't even think they will come second.[/p][/quote]Or turd.....[/p][/quote]I disagree. I think there is a very good chance they will become turd. Rising_Son
  • Score: 5

9:11am Sun 10 Aug 14

Mungoman says...

Watched Scott Parker yesterday for Fulham ,feel he would be worth a shout has would settle young team down,especially if schni and cork go as predicted.as for striker,I'd get hooper on cheap,not the best last year but it was Norwich to be fair.
Watched Scott Parker yesterday for Fulham ,feel he would be worth a shout has would settle young team down,especially if schni and cork go as predicted.as for striker,I'd get hooper on cheap,not the best last year but it was Norwich to be fair. Mungoman
  • Score: -10

9:26am Sun 10 Aug 14

SnapperSaint says...

I think this is a great and significant signing for us, which gives options in goal. I do worry how Boruc will react though, he was first out of the dressing room yesterday, but seemed pleasant and positive enough when signing autographs in the car park so will see...
Regarding the match yesterday, this is a good summary from their site:
http://www.bayer04.d
e/b04-eng/en/_site_i
ndex.aspx
I think we did ok against a side in the Champions League qualification playoffs and who are fourth in th Bundesligue, especially when you take account of how little time our players have been all together.
I think Bertrand and Tadic looked the most promising, but given Taider only joined this week, he did ok too. On Pelle, he was mobile and a great target man with his height, just hope he can make more use of the ball when he gets it like Rickie did.
It's a game of opinions and that's mine anyway...
Feeling more positive than negative by some way and certainly more positive than I did a few weeks ago when the only direction of players was out the door! COYS!!!
I think this is a great and significant signing for us, which gives options in goal. I do worry how Boruc will react though, he was first out of the dressing room yesterday, but seemed pleasant and positive enough when signing autographs in the car park so will see... Regarding the match yesterday, this is a good summary from their site: http://www.bayer04.d e/b04-eng/en/_site_i ndex.aspx I think we did ok against a side in the Champions League qualification playoffs and who are fourth in th Bundesligue, especially when you take account of how little time our players have been all together. I think Bertrand and Tadic looked the most promising, but given Taider only joined this week, he did ok too. On Pelle, he was mobile and a great target man with his height, just hope he can make more use of the ball when he gets it like Rickie did. It's a game of opinions and that's mine anyway... Feeling more positive than negative by some way and certainly more positive than I did a few weeks ago when the only direction of players was out the door! COYS!!! SnapperSaint
  • Score: 6

9:30am Sun 10 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Dgginger wrote:
The lad's been in Miami then Rio ...and several other cities in between, then Glasgow,then Warsaw then Glasgow then Edinbrugh the poor lad's feet have barely touched the ground...now he's got to relocate his whole life to Southampton ...perhaps we could have given him a little more time, that's all I'm trying to say it just shows that we are unstable and it's bound to have an affect on the pitch.
He's been linked with us for weeks for goodness sake ...what was the hold up...Celtic getting in a replacement, that could be it I suppose, doesn't help us much though
We are just very disorganised at the moment, it is not Koemans fault ....he must be wondering what he's gotten into.
You seem to be saying that we shouldn't sign anyone who played in the recent World Cup and qualifying rounds the Champions League. Is that right?
That puts us in the same position as all the other clubs who have signed 3/4/5 players this close season then. And lost the same nr also of course. If we go back for their centre back there's another one Celtic will have to find.
Saints are in the same position as dozens of other clubs except we have the money to soften the blow and they may have been able to keep hold of their manager.
I await your response to Risings query with interest.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dgginger[/bold] wrote: The lad's been in Miami then Rio ...and several other cities in between, then Glasgow,then Warsaw then Glasgow then Edinbrugh the poor lad's feet have barely touched the ground...now he's got to relocate his whole life to Southampton ...perhaps we could have given him a little more time, that's all I'm trying to say it just shows that we are unstable and it's bound to have an affect on the pitch. He's been linked with us for weeks for goodness sake ...what was the hold up...Celtic getting in a replacement, that could be it I suppose, doesn't help us much though We are just very disorganised at the moment, it is not Koemans fault ....he must be wondering what he's gotten into.[/p][/quote]You seem to be saying that we shouldn't sign anyone who played in the recent World Cup and qualifying rounds the Champions League. Is that right?[/p][/quote]That puts us in the same position as all the other clubs who have signed 3/4/5 players this close season then. And lost the same nr also of course. If we go back for their centre back there's another one Celtic will have to find. Saints are in the same position as dozens of other clubs except we have the money to soften the blow and they may have been able to keep hold of their manager. I await your response to Risings query with interest. jls217
  • Score: 3

9:32am Sun 10 Aug 14

Chapperall says...

This is a good investment as he will be the no 1 English keeper for years to come. He is great in the area and an excellent shot stopper, Arthur is a great shot stopper but not commanding in the air.
Great we have this transfer done and now on to a CB and a striker to form a partnership with Pele until Jay is fully fit.
The two full backs looked good yesterday and we won't miss Chambers or Shaw at all.
Just read that the money has already gone to Shaws head 3 in the bed romps etc. I predict he career will take a nose dive and could become another Rodwell. Tailking about Rodwell I read his article with interest yesterday when he said going to City to be a bench warmer was the wrong decision for his career. Read on Chambers, lambert and Lallana, as their England careers are over!
Now on to next week. I predict a draw which is a good start, with a tadic scoring the goal!
This is a good investment as he will be the no 1 English keeper for years to come. He is great in the area and an excellent shot stopper, Arthur is a great shot stopper but not commanding in the air. Great we have this transfer done and now on to a CB and a striker to form a partnership with Pele until Jay is fully fit. The two full backs looked good yesterday and we won't miss Chambers or Shaw at all. Just read that the money has already gone to Shaws head 3 in the bed romps etc. I predict he career will take a nose dive and could become another Rodwell. Tailking about Rodwell I read his article with interest yesterday when he said going to City to be a bench warmer was the wrong decision for his career. Read on Chambers, lambert and Lallana, as their England careers are over! Now on to next week. I predict a draw which is a good start, with a tadic scoring the goal! Chapperall
  • Score: 0

9:41am Sun 10 Aug 14

SnapperSaint says...

Chapperall wrote:
This is a good investment as he will be the no 1 English keeper for years to come. He is great in the area and an excellent shot stopper, Arthur is a great shot stopper but not commanding in the air.
Great we have this transfer done and now on to a CB and a striker to form a partnership with Pele until Jay is fully fit.
The two full backs looked good yesterday and we won't miss Chambers or Shaw at all.
Just read that the money has already gone to Shaws head 3 in the bed romps etc. I predict he career will take a nose dive and could become another Rodwell. Tailking about Rodwell I read his article with interest yesterday when he said going to City to be a bench warmer was the wrong decision for his career. Read on Chambers, lambert and Lallana, as their England careers are over!
Now on to next week. I predict a draw which is a good start, with a tadic scoring the goal!
Would be so ironic if Bertrand over took Shaw for the England LB slot...
[quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: This is a good investment as he will be the no 1 English keeper for years to come. He is great in the area and an excellent shot stopper, Arthur is a great shot stopper but not commanding in the air. Great we have this transfer done and now on to a CB and a striker to form a partnership with Pele until Jay is fully fit. The two full backs looked good yesterday and we won't miss Chambers or Shaw at all. Just read that the money has already gone to Shaws head 3 in the bed romps etc. I predict he career will take a nose dive and could become another Rodwell. Tailking about Rodwell I read his article with interest yesterday when he said going to City to be a bench warmer was the wrong decision for his career. Read on Chambers, lambert and Lallana, as their England careers are over! Now on to next week. I predict a draw which is a good start, with a tadic scoring the goal![/p][/quote]Would be so ironic if Bertrand over took Shaw for the England LB slot... SnapperSaint
  • Score: 2

9:47am Sun 10 Aug 14

Bazultra says...

Tony in Liberia wrote:
So, would those who said the board would not be spending any more money, that hey are asset-stripping and about to nob off into the sunset with all the transfer kitty, now please come back on here and acknowledge that they were wrong?

If KL had wanted to keep all that dosh, why would she have allowed 10 million to be spent on a position where AB could have held the fort until a buyer was found for the club. You can argue all you like about whether 10 million is a fair price or not, but you cannot argue that spending it isn't a clear statement of intent to improve the squad and remain competitive.

Also, to all those who said why didn't we buy him seeks ago, Celtic made it quite clear that they wouldn't sell him while they were still in the Champion's League, and who can blame them since getting through the qualifiers is about all there is to actually play for, since they'll win everything else by default. When they went out the deal became live, and now he's ours.

And to those who point out that Celtic are back in the CL, perhaps this (along with RK saying that Morgan is not going to be sold no matter how far away from the pram he manages to get his toys) can be seen as proof that the board are prepared to play hardball when they feel they have a reasonable chance of winning!

Great buy, welcome to the club, and now let's get going on the new season! COYR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im not going to acknowledge I was wrong at all as nobody knows just yet. We sold the spine of our team Lovren, Lallana and Lambert before we even had any replacements. This in itself was bad business. You dont sell your car or give up a job until you have a new one Yes we have made additions to the squad now but at quite a low cost with the exception of Forster. As someone said in another post he plays in the SPL and could be found out in the premier league. With that said 10 mill seems alot. I dobt agree with everything the board has done but I will remain optimistic for now and I dont for one minute think we will be fighting a relegation battle. Having saud that Im a realist and dont think we will emulate are finish of 8th last season!
[quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: So, would those who said the board would not be spending any more money, that hey are asset-stripping and about to nob off into the sunset with all the transfer kitty, now please come back on here and acknowledge that they were wrong? If KL had wanted to keep all that dosh, why would she have allowed 10 million to be spent on a position where AB could have held the fort until a buyer was found for the club. You can argue all you like about whether 10 million is a fair price or not, but you cannot argue that spending it isn't a clear statement of intent to improve the squad and remain competitive. Also, to all those who said why didn't we buy him seeks ago, Celtic made it quite clear that they wouldn't sell him while they were still in the Champion's League, and who can blame them since getting through the qualifiers is about all there is to actually play for, since they'll win everything else by default. When they went out the deal became live, and now he's ours. And to those who point out that Celtic are back in the CL, perhaps this (along with RK saying that Morgan is not going to be sold no matter how far away from the pram he manages to get his toys) can be seen as proof that the board are prepared to play hardball when they feel they have a reasonable chance of winning! Great buy, welcome to the club, and now let's get going on the new season! COYR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Im not going to acknowledge I was wrong at all as nobody knows just yet. We sold the spine of our team Lovren, Lallana and Lambert before we even had any replacements. This in itself was bad business. You dont sell your car or give up a job until you have a new one Yes we have made additions to the squad now but at quite a low cost with the exception of Forster. As someone said in another post he plays in the SPL and could be found out in the premier league. With that said 10 mill seems alot. I dobt agree with everything the board has done but I will remain optimistic for now and I dont for one minute think we will be fighting a relegation battle. Having saud that Im a realist and dont think we will emulate are finish of 8th last season! Bazultra
  • Score: 2

9:48am Sun 10 Aug 14

justaSaintsfan says...

costa gaz wrote:
Happy Clappers 4-6 Merchants of Doom
Back of the net... pick that one out!!!!!!

The most unlikely of comebacks is back on.
You have had your say. Now I am having mine!

Please note that I have included loan players because they will actually be PLAYING FOR Saints (or elsewhere in Osvaldo's case).

Latest score:

Happy Clappers 6 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider, Forster)

Neggie Veggies. 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Lovren, Chambers, Osvaldo)

Unlike you, I have never doubted the comeback!!!

On the matter of loan signings, trying before buying makes sense. A case in point is Lukaku, whose loan deal was made permanent. According to the way some people think, he didn't play for the borrowing club last season, as he was only on loan. So how come all their results were valid with him in their team? His loan deal was a great bit of business!

Welcome to all our new players, including those on loan. Good riddance to Osvaldo, for a season at least!

Come on the happy clappers and down with the neggie veggie doom mongers!

Most of all UP THE SAINTS!!!

Come on costa, please lighten up even more. I know you can do it because you ARE a Saints fan!!!
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Happy Clappers 4-6 Merchants of Doom Back of the net... pick that one out!!!!!! The most unlikely of comebacks is back on.[/p][/quote]You have had your say. Now I am having mine! Please note that I have included loan players because they will actually be PLAYING FOR Saints (or elsewhere in Osvaldo's case). Latest score: Happy Clappers 6 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider, Forster) Neggie Veggies. 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Lovren, Chambers, Osvaldo) Unlike you, I have never doubted the comeback!!! On the matter of loan signings, trying before buying makes sense. A case in point is Lukaku, whose loan deal was made permanent. According to the way some people think, he didn't play for the borrowing club last season, as he was only on loan. So how come all their results were valid with him in their team? His loan deal was a great bit of business! Welcome to all our new players, including those on loan. Good riddance to Osvaldo, for a season at least! Come on the happy clappers and down with the neggie veggie doom mongers! Most of all UP THE SAINTS!!! Come on costa, please lighten up even more. I know you can do it because you ARE a Saints fan!!! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: 3

9:49am Sun 10 Aug 14

Blackknight says...

Now for a CB and a Striker.
Now for a CB and a Striker. Blackknight
  • Score: 2

9:53am Sun 10 Aug 14

warrens 76 says...

Have the board ( not us) received good money for the players leaving, yes.
Have we from all reports replaced with better, no.
Have we improved our weak spots, absolutely not.
Are we capable of playing as we did last season, not on any of the friendly showings.
Our pressing and passing speed has gone, our lack of finishing remains and this will be accompanied by less chances to boot…
From everything I have seen and heard this will not be pretty.
Have the board ( not us) received good money for the players leaving, yes. Have we from all reports replaced with better, no. Have we improved our weak spots, absolutely not. Are we capable of playing as we did last season, not on any of the friendly showings. Our pressing and passing speed has gone, our lack of finishing remains and this will be accompanied by less chances to boot… From everything I have seen and heard this will not be pretty. warrens 76
  • Score: -4

9:56am Sun 10 Aug 14

miltonnroad76 says...

costa gaz wrote:
Happy Clappers 4-6 Merchants of Doom
Back of the net... pick that one out!!!!!!

The most unlikely of comebacks is back on.
Its 6-5 actually coz Osvaldo counts for the happy clappers,and i suspect final score will be 7-5 to the positives...But please lets have cb the thuoght of Hooveldt gives me the jitters
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Happy Clappers 4-6 Merchants of Doom Back of the net... pick that one out!!!!!! The most unlikely of comebacks is back on.[/p][/quote]Its 6-5 actually coz Osvaldo counts for the happy clappers,and i suspect final score will be 7-5 to the positives...But please lets have cb the thuoght of Hooveldt gives me the jitters miltonnroad76
  • Score: 1

9:56am Sun 10 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
randre wrote:
Dgginger wrote:
This signing shows what a mess the club is in at the moment, hopefully long term he does well for us but....

He's never worth ten million

Why have we waited so long to get it done ? He could have got injured in the dead rubber in the Champions League the other night ...maybe there is a reason but to buy a new goalkeeper and not even give him a chance to play in a friendly is utter stupidity we could have bought him two days ago, or better still two months ago.

Now everyone knows we have all the money in the world ...they are going to hold out aren't they...

I don't watch Scottiish football but I wonder how good he is at Celtic he must get some very easy games he'll certainly be busier playing for us that's for sure, especially if we don't buy some defenders.

As it stands we must pray that Koeman is right about Tadic and Pelle because if he's not we are in danger they've never played in the Premier League remember one of my biggest fear is that they play well in the first few weeks and then fade ...fingers crossed they are good enough.

Maybe we will be in better shape come September the first but we are certainly not in a good place right now.....and I don't see how we can win the argument with Schnederlin unless he changes his mind.

Hopefully we have so much money we can't fail to get in some quality in but, my goodness, we are making a drama out of it....
I as m in disbelief that you are looking at this signing as a negative.

If you have seen Fraser Forster play in the champions league, SPL or when he gas played for England you would surely understand that he is a top quality player. Has it occurred to you that Celtic would not want to lose one of their key players? Buying a player in real life is not as simple as buying a car!!

Some supporters moan when we don't sign players and then even moan when we do. I just don't get it.
Neggies reserve the right to complain, except those that aren't genuine and just post to wind people up, thin line divides them. It's all legal.
The negatives on here remind me of the three guys who sat behind us yesterday, not all that are on here are negative I know and I know they have a right to their point of view.

They sat there the whole game and criticised, never said one good word apart from a foul that Vic made which got them a bit excited, they talked through the whole game about holidays, work and last night at the pub with mates, why the f@ck waste your money just to pis@ the people off around you.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dgginger[/bold] wrote: This signing shows what a mess the club is in at the moment, hopefully long term he does well for us but.... He's never worth ten million Why have we waited so long to get it done ? He could have got injured in the dead rubber in the Champions League the other night ...maybe there is a reason but to buy a new goalkeeper and not even give him a chance to play in a friendly is utter stupidity we could have bought him two days ago, or better still two months ago. Now everyone knows we have all the money in the world ...they are going to hold out aren't they... I don't watch Scottiish football but I wonder how good he is at Celtic he must get some very easy games he'll certainly be busier playing for us that's for sure, especially if we don't buy some defenders. As it stands we must pray that Koeman is right about Tadic and Pelle because if he's not we are in danger they've never played in the Premier League remember one of my biggest fear is that they play well in the first few weeks and then fade ...fingers crossed they are good enough. Maybe we will be in better shape come September the first but we are certainly not in a good place right now.....and I don't see how we can win the argument with Schnederlin unless he changes his mind. Hopefully we have so much money we can't fail to get in some quality in but, my goodness, we are making a drama out of it....[/p][/quote]I as m in disbelief that you are looking at this signing as a negative. If you have seen Fraser Forster play in the champions league, SPL or when he gas played for England you would surely understand that he is a top quality player. Has it occurred to you that Celtic would not want to lose one of their key players? Buying a player in real life is not as simple as buying a car!! Some supporters moan when we don't sign players and then even moan when we do. I just don't get it.[/p][/quote]Neggies reserve the right to complain, except those that aren't genuine and just post to wind people up, thin line divides them. It's all legal.[/p][/quote]The negatives on here remind me of the three guys who sat behind us yesterday, not all that are on here are negative I know and I know they have a right to their point of view. They sat there the whole game and criticised, never said one good word apart from a foul that Vic made which got them a bit excited, they talked through the whole game about holidays, work and last night at the pub with mates, why the f@ck waste your money just to pis@ the people off around you. fascia123
  • Score: 10

10:02am Sun 10 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
I think Forster will end up taking the number 1 shirt and keeping it.

What yesterday's match showed is that we are still missing a few pieces in the jigsaw. A couple of centre backs are badly needed, as well as striker.
What yesterdays game showed us is that pelle is crap and tadic out of his depth.plus we need 2 strikers and 2 cbs and a winger.
I take it you went then?
You must of been doing the Poznan the whole game, cus you didn't watch the same game I did, Pelle was not brilliant but ploughed a furrow on his own in the main and at times was marked by three centre backs, Tadic though looked very useful especially when playing in front of Clyne.

Do you just talk a load of shi@ to wind people up?
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: I think Forster will end up taking the number 1 shirt and keeping it. What yesterday's match showed is that we are still missing a few pieces in the jigsaw. A couple of centre backs are badly needed, as well as striker.[/p][/quote]What yesterdays game showed us is that pelle is crap and tadic out of his depth.plus we need 2 strikers and 2 cbs and a winger.[/p][/quote]I take it you went then?[/p][/quote]You must of been doing the Poznan the whole game, cus you didn't watch the same game I did, Pelle was not brilliant but ploughed a furrow on his own in the main and at times was marked by three centre backs, Tadic though looked very useful especially when playing in front of Clyne. Do you just talk a load of shi@ to wind people up? fascia123
  • Score: 4

10:04am Sun 10 Aug 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

fascia123 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
randre wrote:
Dgginger wrote:
This signing shows what a mess the club is in at the moment, hopefully long term he does well for us but....

He's never worth ten million

Why have we waited so long to get it done ? He could have got injured in the dead rubber in the Champions League the other night ...maybe there is a reason but to buy a new goalkeeper and not even give him a chance to play in a friendly is utter stupidity we could have bought him two days ago, or better still two months ago.

Now everyone knows we have all the money in the world ...they are going to hold out aren't they...

I don't watch Scottiish football but I wonder how good he is at Celtic he must get some very easy games he'll certainly be busier playing for us that's for sure, especially if we don't buy some defenders.

As it stands we must pray that Koeman is right about Tadic and Pelle because if he's not we are in danger they've never played in the Premier League remember one of my biggest fear is that they play well in the first few weeks and then fade ...fingers crossed they are good enough.

Maybe we will be in better shape come September the first but we are certainly not in a good place right now.....and I don't see how we can win the argument with Schnederlin unless he changes his mind.

Hopefully we have so much money we can't fail to get in some quality in but, my goodness, we are making a drama out of it....
I as m in disbelief that you are looking at this signing as a negative.

If you have seen Fraser Forster play in the champions league, SPL or when he gas played for England you would surely understand that he is a top quality player. Has it occurred to you that Celtic would not want to lose one of their key players? Buying a player in real life is not as simple as buying a car!!

Some supporters moan when we don't sign players and then even moan when we do. I just don't get it.
Neggies reserve the right to complain, except those that aren't genuine and just post to wind people up, thin line divides them. It's all legal.
The negatives on here remind me of the three guys who sat behind us yesterday, not all that are on here are negative I know and I know they have a right to their point of view.

They sat there the whole game and criticised, never said one good word apart from a foul that Vic made which got them a bit excited, they talked through the whole game about holidays, work and last night at the pub with mates, why the f@ck waste your money just to pis@ the people off around you.
I'd sort of hoped that dgginger was being ironic. Seems he or she wasn't. Oh well!

It's funny how it can take a lifetime for some folk to post anything remotely optimistic and no more than a hair in their cornflakes to make them be so negative.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dgginger[/bold] wrote: This signing shows what a mess the club is in at the moment, hopefully long term he does well for us but.... He's never worth ten million Why have we waited so long to get it done ? He could have got injured in the dead rubber in the Champions League the other night ...maybe there is a reason but to buy a new goalkeeper and not even give him a chance to play in a friendly is utter stupidity we could have bought him two days ago, or better still two months ago. Now everyone knows we have all the money in the world ...they are going to hold out aren't they... I don't watch Scottiish football but I wonder how good he is at Celtic he must get some very easy games he'll certainly be busier playing for us that's for sure, especially if we don't buy some defenders. As it stands we must pray that Koeman is right about Tadic and Pelle because if he's not we are in danger they've never played in the Premier League remember one of my biggest fear is that they play well in the first few weeks and then fade ...fingers crossed they are good enough. Maybe we will be in better shape come September the first but we are certainly not in a good place right now.....and I don't see how we can win the argument with Schnederlin unless he changes his mind. Hopefully we have so much money we can't fail to get in some quality in but, my goodness, we are making a drama out of it....[/p][/quote]I as m in disbelief that you are looking at this signing as a negative. If you have seen Fraser Forster play in the champions league, SPL or when he gas played for England you would surely understand that he is a top quality player. Has it occurred to you that Celtic would not want to lose one of their key players? Buying a player in real life is not as simple as buying a car!! Some supporters moan when we don't sign players and then even moan when we do. I just don't get it.[/p][/quote]Neggies reserve the right to complain, except those that aren't genuine and just post to wind people up, thin line divides them. It's all legal.[/p][/quote]The negatives on here remind me of the three guys who sat behind us yesterday, not all that are on here are negative I know and I know they have a right to their point of view. They sat there the whole game and criticised, never said one good word apart from a foul that Vic made which got them a bit excited, they talked through the whole game about holidays, work and last night at the pub with mates, why the f@ck waste your money just to pis@ the people off around you.[/p][/quote]I'd sort of hoped that dgginger was being ironic. Seems he or she wasn't. Oh well! It's funny how it can take a lifetime for some folk to post anything remotely optimistic and no more than a hair in their cornflakes to make them be so negative. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 1

10:05am Sun 10 Aug 14

sparky130a says...

Although a relatively large outlay it's a good signing.

Certainly a need for a CB and also a mobile and quick goalscorer.
Although a relatively large outlay it's a good signing. Certainly a need for a CB and also a mobile and quick goalscorer. sparky130a
  • Score: 3

10:05am Sun 10 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Bazultra wrote:
Tony in Liberia wrote:
So, would those who said the board would not be spending any more money, that hey are asset-stripping and about to nob off into the sunset with all the transfer kitty, now please come back on here and acknowledge that they were wrong?

If KL had wanted to keep all that dosh, why would she have allowed 10 million to be spent on a position where AB could have held the fort until a buyer was found for the club. You can argue all you like about whether 10 million is a fair price or not, but you cannot argue that spending it isn't a clear statement of intent to improve the squad and remain competitive.

Also, to all those who said why didn't we buy him seeks ago, Celtic made it quite clear that they wouldn't sell him while they were still in the Champion's League, and who can blame them since getting through the qualifiers is about all there is to actually play for, since they'll win everything else by default. When they went out the deal became live, and now he's ours.

And to those who point out that Celtic are back in the CL, perhaps this (along with RK saying that Morgan is not going to be sold no matter how far away from the pram he manages to get his toys) can be seen as proof that the board are prepared to play hardball when they feel they have a reasonable chance of winning!

Great buy, welcome to the club, and now let's get going on the new season! COYR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im not going to acknowledge I was wrong at all as nobody knows just yet. We sold the spine of our team Lovren, Lallana and Lambert before we even had any replacements. This in itself was bad business. You dont sell your car or give up a job until you have a new one Yes we have made additions to the squad now but at quite a low cost with the exception of Forster. As someone said in another post he plays in the SPL and could be found out in the premier league. With that said 10 mill seems alot. I dobt agree with everything the board has done but I will remain optimistic for now and I dont for one minute think we will be fighting a relegation battle. Having saud that Im a realist and dont think we will emulate are finish of 8th last season!
The analogy of selling your car and giving up your job surely doesn't apply this surely was more like being made redundant and having your car repossessed because you have run out of money.
[quote][p][bold]Bazultra[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: So, would those who said the board would not be spending any more money, that hey are asset-stripping and about to nob off into the sunset with all the transfer kitty, now please come back on here and acknowledge that they were wrong? If KL had wanted to keep all that dosh, why would she have allowed 10 million to be spent on a position where AB could have held the fort until a buyer was found for the club. You can argue all you like about whether 10 million is a fair price or not, but you cannot argue that spending it isn't a clear statement of intent to improve the squad and remain competitive. Also, to all those who said why didn't we buy him seeks ago, Celtic made it quite clear that they wouldn't sell him while they were still in the Champion's League, and who can blame them since getting through the qualifiers is about all there is to actually play for, since they'll win everything else by default. When they went out the deal became live, and now he's ours. And to those who point out that Celtic are back in the CL, perhaps this (along with RK saying that Morgan is not going to be sold no matter how far away from the pram he manages to get his toys) can be seen as proof that the board are prepared to play hardball when they feel they have a reasonable chance of winning! Great buy, welcome to the club, and now let's get going on the new season! COYR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Im not going to acknowledge I was wrong at all as nobody knows just yet. We sold the spine of our team Lovren, Lallana and Lambert before we even had any replacements. This in itself was bad business. You dont sell your car or give up a job until you have a new one Yes we have made additions to the squad now but at quite a low cost with the exception of Forster. As someone said in another post he plays in the SPL and could be found out in the premier league. With that said 10 mill seems alot. I dobt agree with everything the board has done but I will remain optimistic for now and I dont for one minute think we will be fighting a relegation battle. Having saud that Im a realist and dont think we will emulate are finish of 8th last season![/p][/quote]The analogy of selling your car and giving up your job surely doesn't apply this surely was more like being made redundant and having your car repossessed because you have run out of money. fascia123
  • Score: 0

10:05am Sun 10 Aug 14

DisplacedFan says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
InCortesewetrust wrote:
With fonte and yoshida in heart of defence he will be earning his crust this season, can't we play boruc and forster in goal?
5 goalkeepers now in the first team squad, with your defence my advice is to play them all!!
We would have to be seriously desperate to take advice from any skate let alone you.
From a skate's perspective everything is up !
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: With fonte and yoshida in heart of defence he will be earning his crust this season, can't we play boruc and forster in goal?[/p][/quote]5 goalkeepers now in the first team squad, with your defence my advice is to play them all!![/p][/quote]We would have to be seriously desperate to take advice from any skate let alone you.[/p][/quote]From a skate's perspective everything is up ! DisplacedFan
  • Score: 2

10:08am Sun 10 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

A WARM WELCOME to our New Signing Fraser Forster. COYR+WS
A WARM WELCOME to our New Signing Fraser Forster. COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 5

10:09am Sun 10 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Have the board ( not us) received good money for the players leaving, yes.
Have we from all reports replaced with better, no.
Have we improved our weak spots, absolutely not.
Are we capable of playing as we did last season, not on any of the friendly showings.
Our pressing and passing speed has gone, our lack of finishing remains and this will be accompanied by less chances to boot…
From everything I have seen and heard this will not be pretty.
How many games have we played, how many new players against a good team who finished fourth in Bundesliga???
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Have the board ( not us) received good money for the players leaving, yes. Have we from all reports replaced with better, no. Have we improved our weak spots, absolutely not. Are we capable of playing as we did last season, not on any of the friendly showings. Our pressing and passing speed has gone, our lack of finishing remains and this will be accompanied by less chances to boot… From everything I have seen and heard this will not be pretty.[/p][/quote]How many games have we played, how many new players against a good team who finished fourth in Bundesliga??? fascia123
  • Score: 5

10:11am Sun 10 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
randre wrote:
Dgginger wrote:
This signing shows what a mess the club is in at the moment, hopefully long term he does well for us but....

He's never worth ten million

Why have we waited so long to get it done ? He could have got injured in the dead rubber in the Champions League the other night ...maybe there is a reason but to buy a new goalkeeper and not even give him a chance to play in a friendly is utter stupidity we could have bought him two days ago, or better still two months ago.

Now everyone knows we have all the money in the world ...they are going to hold out aren't they...

I don't watch Scottiish football but I wonder how good he is at Celtic he must get some very easy games he'll certainly be busier playing for us that's for sure, especially if we don't buy some defenders.

As it stands we must pray that Koeman is right about Tadic and Pelle because if he's not we are in danger they've never played in the Premier League remember one of my biggest fear is that they play well in the first few weeks and then fade ...fingers crossed they are good enough.

Maybe we will be in better shape come September the first but we are certainly not in a good place right now.....and I don't see how we can win the argument with Schnederlin unless he changes his mind.

Hopefully we have so much money we can't fail to get in some quality in but, my goodness, we are making a drama out of it....
I as m in disbelief that you are looking at this signing as a negative.

If you have seen Fraser Forster play in the champions league, SPL or when he gas played for England you would surely understand that he is a top quality player. Has it occurred to you that Celtic would not want to lose one of their key players? Buying a player in real life is not as simple as buying a car!!

Some supporters moan when we don't sign players and then even moan when we do. I just don't get it.
Neggies reserve the right to complain, except those that aren't genuine and just post to wind people up, thin line divides them. It's all legal.
The negatives on here remind me of the three guys who sat behind us yesterday, not all that are on here are negative I know and I know they have a right to their point of view.

They sat there the whole game and criticised, never said one good word apart from a foul that Vic made which got them a bit excited, they talked through the whole game about holidays, work and last night at the pub with mates, why the f@ck waste your money just to pis@ the people off around you.
I'd sort of hoped that dgginger was being ironic. Seems he or she wasn't. Oh well!

It's funny how it can take a lifetime for some folk to post anything remotely optimistic and no more than a hair in their cornflakes to make them be so negative.
:-)
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dgginger[/bold] wrote: This signing shows what a mess the club is in at the moment, hopefully long term he does well for us but.... He's never worth ten million Why have we waited so long to get it done ? He could have got injured in the dead rubber in the Champions League the other night ...maybe there is a reason but to buy a new goalkeeper and not even give him a chance to play in a friendly is utter stupidity we could have bought him two days ago, or better still two months ago. Now everyone knows we have all the money in the world ...they are going to hold out aren't they... I don't watch Scottiish football but I wonder how good he is at Celtic he must get some very easy games he'll certainly be busier playing for us that's for sure, especially if we don't buy some defenders. As it stands we must pray that Koeman is right about Tadic and Pelle because if he's not we are in danger they've never played in the Premier League remember one of my biggest fear is that they play well in the first few weeks and then fade ...fingers crossed they are good enough. Maybe we will be in better shape come September the first but we are certainly not in a good place right now.....and I don't see how we can win the argument with Schnederlin unless he changes his mind. Hopefully we have so much money we can't fail to get in some quality in but, my goodness, we are making a drama out of it....[/p][/quote]I as m in disbelief that you are looking at this signing as a negative. If you have seen Fraser Forster play in the champions league, SPL or when he gas played for England you would surely understand that he is a top quality player. Has it occurred to you that Celtic would not want to lose one of their key players? Buying a player in real life is not as simple as buying a car!! Some supporters moan when we don't sign players and then even moan when we do. I just don't get it.[/p][/quote]Neggies reserve the right to complain, except those that aren't genuine and just post to wind people up, thin line divides them. It's all legal.[/p][/quote]The negatives on here remind me of the three guys who sat behind us yesterday, not all that are on here are negative I know and I know they have a right to their point of view. They sat there the whole game and criticised, never said one good word apart from a foul that Vic made which got them a bit excited, they talked through the whole game about holidays, work and last night at the pub with mates, why the f@ck waste your money just to pis@ the people off around you.[/p][/quote]I'd sort of hoped that dgginger was being ironic. Seems he or she wasn't. Oh well! It's funny how it can take a lifetime for some folk to post anything remotely optimistic and no more than a hair in their cornflakes to make them be so negative.[/p][/quote]:-) fascia123
  • Score: 1

10:15am Sun 10 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Have the board ( not us) received good money for the players leaving, yes.
Have we from all reports replaced with better, no.
Have we improved our weak spots, absolutely not.
Are we capable of playing as we did last season, not on any of the friendly showings.
Our pressing and passing speed has gone, our lack of finishing remains and this will be accompanied by less chances to boot…
From everything I have seen and heard this will not be pretty.
With strength in Depth at the GK position - Happy Days.

Not so good is when one of the TV Pundits has us as part of a group that could in be trouble for Relegation ....

The issues are :

STRIKE - WE can have the making of a Good side - but if we are not firing in GOALS we will find ourselves in trouble. Cannot wait for JROD to be back - but additionally getting another Strike Option is needed in this window.

DEFENCE - We have sold 2 key members of our Defence and need to strengthen at CB in this transfer window.

We can IMPROVE our pressing and passing - but the same criticism being levelled at our side of doing that in the final third holds good - so PLENTY OF WORK remains on the Training Ground.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Have the board ( not us) received good money for the players leaving, yes. Have we from all reports replaced with better, no. Have we improved our weak spots, absolutely not. Are we capable of playing as we did last season, not on any of the friendly showings. Our pressing and passing speed has gone, our lack of finishing remains and this will be accompanied by less chances to boot… From everything I have seen and heard this will not be pretty.[/p][/quote]With strength in Depth at the GK position - Happy Days. Not so good is when one of the TV Pundits has us as part of a group that could in be trouble for Relegation .... The issues are : STRIKE - WE can have the making of a Good side - but if we are not firing in GOALS we will find ourselves in trouble. Cannot wait for JROD to be back - but additionally getting another Strike Option is needed in this window. DEFENCE - We have sold 2 key members of our Defence and need to strengthen at CB in this transfer window. We can IMPROVE our pressing and passing - but the same criticism being levelled at our side of doing that in the final third holds good - so PLENTY OF WORK remains on the Training Ground. The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 5

10:24am Sun 10 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Have the board ( not us) received good money for the players leaving, yes.
Have we from all reports replaced with better, no.
Have we improved our weak spots, absolutely not.
Are we capable of playing as we did last season, not on any of the friendly showings.
Our pressing and passing speed has gone, our lack of finishing remains and this will be accompanied by less chances to boot…
From everything I have seen and heard this will not be pretty.
With strength in Depth at the GK position - Happy Days.

Not so good is when one of the TV Pundits has us as part of a group that could in be trouble for Relegation ....

The issues are :

STRIKE - WE can have the making of a Good side - but if we are not firing in GOALS we will find ourselves in trouble. Cannot wait for JROD to be back - but additionally getting another Strike Option is needed in this window.

DEFENCE - We have sold 2 key members of our Defence and need to strengthen at CB in this transfer window.

We can IMPROVE our pressing and passing - but the same criticism being levelled at our side of doing that in the final third holds good - so PLENTY OF WORK remains on the Training Ground.
See for me that's constructive opinion not sure I would call it criticism and in the main I think every sensible saints fan could see that yesterday, but some on here I would just like to lock them up in a room together for a couple of days and let them bore the firk out of each other with the mundane twoddle they spout.
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Have the board ( not us) received good money for the players leaving, yes. Have we from all reports replaced with better, no. Have we improved our weak spots, absolutely not. Are we capable of playing as we did last season, not on any of the friendly showings. Our pressing and passing speed has gone, our lack of finishing remains and this will be accompanied by less chances to boot… From everything I have seen and heard this will not be pretty.[/p][/quote]With strength in Depth at the GK position - Happy Days. Not so good is when one of the TV Pundits has us as part of a group that could in be trouble for Relegation .... The issues are : STRIKE - WE can have the making of a Good side - but if we are not firing in GOALS we will find ourselves in trouble. Cannot wait for JROD to be back - but additionally getting another Strike Option is needed in this window. DEFENCE - We have sold 2 key members of our Defence and need to strengthen at CB in this transfer window. We can IMPROVE our pressing and passing - but the same criticism being levelled at our side of doing that in the final third holds good - so PLENTY OF WORK remains on the Training Ground.[/p][/quote]See for me that's constructive opinion not sure I would call it criticism and in the main I think every sensible saints fan could see that yesterday, but some on here I would just like to lock them up in a room together for a couple of days and let them bore the firk out of each other with the mundane twoddle they spout. fascia123
  • Score: 6

10:30am Sun 10 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Have the board ( not us) received good money for the players leaving, yes.
Have we from all reports replaced with better, no.
Have we improved our weak spots, absolutely not.
Are we capable of playing as we did last season, not on any of the friendly showings.
Our pressing and passing speed has gone, our lack of finishing remains and this will be accompanied by less chances to boot…
From everything I have seen and heard this will not be pretty.
With strength in Depth at the GK position - Happy Days.

Not so good is when one of the TV Pundits has us as part of a group that could in be trouble for Relegation ....

The issues are :

STRIKE - WE can have the making of a Good side - but if we are not firing in GOALS we will find ourselves in trouble. Cannot wait for JROD to be back - but additionally getting another Strike Option is needed in this window.

DEFENCE - We have sold 2 key members of our Defence and need to strengthen at CB in this transfer window.

We can IMPROVE our pressing and passing - but the same criticism being levelled at our side of doing that in the final third holds good - so PLENTY OF WORK remains on the Training Ground.
See for me that's constructive opinion not sure I would call it criticism and in the main I think every sensible saints fan could see that yesterday, but some on here I would just like to lock them up in a room together for a couple of days and let them bore the firk out of each other with the mundane twoddle they spout.
Perhaps I should of said locked up in those two sheds knocked into one.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Have the board ( not us) received good money for the players leaving, yes. Have we from all reports replaced with better, no. Have we improved our weak spots, absolutely not. Are we capable of playing as we did last season, not on any of the friendly showings. Our pressing and passing speed has gone, our lack of finishing remains and this will be accompanied by less chances to boot… From everything I have seen and heard this will not be pretty.[/p][/quote]With strength in Depth at the GK position - Happy Days. Not so good is when one of the TV Pundits has us as part of a group that could in be trouble for Relegation .... The issues are : STRIKE - WE can have the making of a Good side - but if we are not firing in GOALS we will find ourselves in trouble. Cannot wait for JROD to be back - but additionally getting another Strike Option is needed in this window. DEFENCE - We have sold 2 key members of our Defence and need to strengthen at CB in this transfer window. We can IMPROVE our pressing and passing - but the same criticism being levelled at our side of doing that in the final third holds good - so PLENTY OF WORK remains on the Training Ground.[/p][/quote]See for me that's constructive opinion not sure I would call it criticism and in the main I think every sensible saints fan could see that yesterday, but some on here I would just like to lock them up in a room together for a couple of days and let them bore the firk out of each other with the mundane twoddle they spout.[/p][/quote]Perhaps I should of said locked up in those two sheds knocked into one. fascia123
  • Score: 2

10:32am Sun 10 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

justaSaintsfan wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Happy Clappers 4-6 Merchants of Doom
Back of the net... pick that one out!!!!!!

The most unlikely of comebacks is back on.
You have had your say. Now I am having mine!

Please note that I have included loan players because they will actually be PLAYING FOR Saints (or elsewhere in Osvaldo's case).

Latest score:

Happy Clappers 6 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider, Forster)

Neggie Veggies. 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Lovren, Chambers, Osvaldo)

Unlike you, I have never doubted the comeback!!!

On the matter of loan signings, trying before buying makes sense. A case in point is Lukaku, whose loan deal was made permanent. According to the way some people think, he didn't play for the borrowing club last season, as he was only on loan. So how come all their results were valid with him in their team? His loan deal was a great bit of business!

Welcome to all our new players, including those on loan. Good riddance to Osvaldo, for a season at least!

Come on the happy clappers and down with the neggie veggie doom mongers!

Most of all UP THE SAINTS!!!

Come on costa, please lighten up even more. I know you can do it because you ARE a Saints fan!!!
Thank you for your comments Justa.
The committee have looked into your theory and after much discussion and deliberation we have drawn the conclusion that only permanent transfers can be counted in the official HC's v MoD score.
Please refer to rule 27/4 section e.
If you wish to appeal this decision please contact me at.... info@couldn'tgiveado
nald.com
;-)
[quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Happy Clappers 4-6 Merchants of Doom Back of the net... pick that one out!!!!!! The most unlikely of comebacks is back on.[/p][/quote]You have had your say. Now I am having mine! Please note that I have included loan players because they will actually be PLAYING FOR Saints (or elsewhere in Osvaldo's case). Latest score: Happy Clappers 6 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider, Forster) Neggie Veggies. 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Lovren, Chambers, Osvaldo) Unlike you, I have never doubted the comeback!!! On the matter of loan signings, trying before buying makes sense. A case in point is Lukaku, whose loan deal was made permanent. According to the way some people think, he didn't play for the borrowing club last season, as he was only on loan. So how come all their results were valid with him in their team? His loan deal was a great bit of business! Welcome to all our new players, including those on loan. Good riddance to Osvaldo, for a season at least! Come on the happy clappers and down with the neggie veggie doom mongers! Most of all UP THE SAINTS!!! Come on costa, please lighten up even more. I know you can do it because you ARE a Saints fan!!![/p][/quote]Thank you for your comments Justa. The committee have looked into your theory and after much discussion and deliberation we have drawn the conclusion that only permanent transfers can be counted in the official HC's v MoD score. Please refer to rule 27/4 section e. If you wish to appeal this decision please contact me at.... info@couldn'tgiveado nald.com ;-) costa gaz
  • Score: 1

10:35am Sun 10 Aug 14

SNUGGLES 78 says...

two more in ,schid and cork to leave ,bottom by xmas.
two more in ,schid and cork to leave ,bottom by xmas. SNUGGLES 78
  • Score: -8

10:36am Sun 10 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
Hey j7 everyone knows you can't walk the walk now son.your yellow.
I have asked to meet up with you before the Newcastle game and you have not given me an answer.scared? You can bring jls your boyfriend along.you call people names on here and haven't even got the balls to say it to their face,some man you are.
come on Sammy why wont you answer the question?
it was simple enough so I will ask again, were you at the game yesterday? its a yes or no answer by the way!

or are you just more interested in asking people for a fight? wow you must be a really really hard person!
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Hey j7 everyone knows you can't walk the walk now son.your yellow. I have asked to meet up with you before the Newcastle game and you have not given me an answer.scared? You can bring jls your boyfriend along.you call people names on here and haven't even got the balls to say it to their face,some man you are.[/p][/quote]come on Sammy why wont you answer the question? it was simple enough so I will ask again, were you at the game yesterday? its a yes or no answer by the way! or are you just more interested in asking people for a fight? wow you must be a really really hard person! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 7

10:41am Sun 10 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

I think if you have two sheds you should become invisible on this site.
I think if you have two sheds you should become invisible on this site. fascia123
  • Score: 5

10:43am Sun 10 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

fascia123 wrote:
Bazultra wrote:
Tony in Liberia wrote:
So, would those who said the board would not be spending any more money, that hey are asset-stripping and about to nob off into the sunset with all the transfer kitty, now please come back on here and acknowledge that they were wrong?

If KL had wanted to keep all that dosh, why would she have allowed 10 million to be spent on a position where AB could have held the fort until a buyer was found for the club. You can argue all you like about whether 10 million is a fair price or not, but you cannot argue that spending it isn't a clear statement of intent to improve the squad and remain competitive.

Also, to all those who said why didn't we buy him seeks ago, Celtic made it quite clear that they wouldn't sell him while they were still in the Champion's League, and who can blame them since getting through the qualifiers is about all there is to actually play for, since they'll win everything else by default. When they went out the deal became live, and now he's ours.

And to those who point out that Celtic are back in the CL, perhaps this (along with RK saying that Morgan is not going to be sold no matter how far away from the pram he manages to get his toys) can be seen as proof that the board are prepared to play hardball when they feel they have a reasonable chance of winning!

Great buy, welcome to the club, and now let's get going on the new season! COYR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im not going to acknowledge I was wrong at all as nobody knows just yet. We sold the spine of our team Lovren, Lallana and Lambert before we even had any replacements. This in itself was bad business. You dont sell your car or give up a job until you have a new one Yes we have made additions to the squad now but at quite a low cost with the exception of Forster. As someone said in another post he plays in the SPL and could be found out in the premier league. With that said 10 mill seems alot. I dobt agree with everything the board has done but I will remain optimistic for now and I dont for one minute think we will be fighting a relegation battle. Having saud that Im a realist and dont think we will emulate are finish of 8th last season!
The analogy of selling your car and giving up your job surely doesn't apply this surely was more like being made redundant and having your car repossessed because you have run out of money.
Apart from the board said several times we didn't need to sell, are you saying they lied? The whole of Staplewood development is allowed to be financed outside of football income under the FFP rules so our only qualifying debt was £20m. So he was right, we should have signed before we sold.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazultra[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: So, would those who said the board would not be spending any more money, that hey are asset-stripping and about to nob off into the sunset with all the transfer kitty, now please come back on here and acknowledge that they were wrong? If KL had wanted to keep all that dosh, why would she have allowed 10 million to be spent on a position where AB could have held the fort until a buyer was found for the club. You can argue all you like about whether 10 million is a fair price or not, but you cannot argue that spending it isn't a clear statement of intent to improve the squad and remain competitive. Also, to all those who said why didn't we buy him seeks ago, Celtic made it quite clear that they wouldn't sell him while they were still in the Champion's League, and who can blame them since getting through the qualifiers is about all there is to actually play for, since they'll win everything else by default. When they went out the deal became live, and now he's ours. And to those who point out that Celtic are back in the CL, perhaps this (along with RK saying that Morgan is not going to be sold no matter how far away from the pram he manages to get his toys) can be seen as proof that the board are prepared to play hardball when they feel they have a reasonable chance of winning! Great buy, welcome to the club, and now let's get going on the new season! COYR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Im not going to acknowledge I was wrong at all as nobody knows just yet. We sold the spine of our team Lovren, Lallana and Lambert before we even had any replacements. This in itself was bad business. You dont sell your car or give up a job until you have a new one Yes we have made additions to the squad now but at quite a low cost with the exception of Forster. As someone said in another post he plays in the SPL and could be found out in the premier league. With that said 10 mill seems alot. I dobt agree with everything the board has done but I will remain optimistic for now and I dont for one minute think we will be fighting a relegation battle. Having saud that Im a realist and dont think we will emulate are finish of 8th last season![/p][/quote]The analogy of selling your car and giving up your job surely doesn't apply this surely was more like being made redundant and having your car repossessed because you have run out of money.[/p][/quote]Apart from the board said several times we didn't need to sell, are you saying they lied? The whole of Staplewood development is allowed to be financed outside of football income under the FFP rules so our only qualifying debt was £20m. So he was right, we should have signed before we sold. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -2

10:43am Sun 10 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
Hey j7 everyone knows you can't walk the walk now son.your yellow.
I have asked to meet up with you before the Newcastle game and you have not given me an answer.scared? You can bring jls your boyfriend along.you call people names on here and haven't even got the balls to say it to their face,some man you are.
Careful 7 he's swimming in from Australia or Portchester or somewhere most humans get sent to for being naughty. He did say but nobody cares or takes any notice. But Australia's I think is off the Coast of the Isle of Wight and it's quite a swim so he must a real hard barsteward. He's clearly psycho and might have been sent there for cottaging so put a flak jacket round yer arse mate. The whole of the south coast is trembling 2bustops. Maybe noone wants to meet you 'cos of your halitosis - sorry to be the one to have to point it out. Still down at Fartton Krap there's no-one to sit close to to annoy so you should be okay. Hurry up before they turn it into a car park though.
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Hey j7 everyone knows you can't walk the walk now son.your yellow. I have asked to meet up with you before the Newcastle game and you have not given me an answer.scared? You can bring jls your boyfriend along.you call people names on here and haven't even got the balls to say it to their face,some man you are.[/p][/quote]Careful 7 he's swimming in from Australia or Portchester or somewhere most humans get sent to for being naughty. He did say but nobody cares or takes any notice. But Australia's I think is off the Coast of the Isle of Wight and it's quite a swim so he must a real hard barsteward. He's clearly psycho and might have been sent there for cottaging so put a flak jacket round yer arse mate. The whole of the south coast is trembling 2bustops. Maybe noone wants to meet you 'cos of your halitosis - sorry to be the one to have to point it out. Still down at Fartton Krap there's no-one to sit close to to annoy so you should be okay. Hurry up before they turn it into a car park though. jls217
  • Score: 2

10:46am Sun 10 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

SNUGGLES 78 wrote:
two more in ,schid and cork to leave ,bottom by xmas.
Thanks for the ITK SNUGG Les, much obliged.
[quote][p][bold]SNUGGLES 78[/bold] wrote: two more in ,schid and cork to leave ,bottom by xmas.[/p][/quote]Thanks for the ITK SNUGG Les, much obliged. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 4

10:47am Sun 10 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Forster is a great signing and will bring genuine competition between the sticks. Ron will have to handle it well to keep them both sweet. Given his performances of last season and the fact Forster has yet to train with us I expect Boruc to start the season off at Anfield - it's his to lose in the pecking order!
Forster is a great signing and will bring genuine competition between the sticks. Ron will have to handle it well to keep them both sweet. Given his performances of last season and the fact Forster has yet to train with us I expect Boruc to start the season off at Anfield - it's his to lose in the pecking order! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 5

10:48am Sun 10 Aug 14

jls217 says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Hey j7 everyone knows you can't walk the walk now son.your yellow.
I have asked to meet up with you before the Newcastle game and you have not given me an answer.scared? You can bring jls your boyfriend along.you call people names on here and haven't even got the balls to say it to their face,some man you are.
come on Sammy why wont you answer the question?
it was simple enough so I will ask again, were you at the game yesterday? its a yes or no answer by the way!

or are you just more interested in asking people for a fight? wow you must be a really really hard person!
Can be little doubt of it 101 - there's a comment on a toilet wall in Pompey bus station that states quite clearly Samuel 2heads gets hard when the fleet is in. He's clearly a ginger belt in shitestirring. The Solent area trembles. Lock up your dogs.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Hey j7 everyone knows you can't walk the walk now son.your yellow. I have asked to meet up with you before the Newcastle game and you have not given me an answer.scared? You can bring jls your boyfriend along.you call people names on here and haven't even got the balls to say it to their face,some man you are.[/p][/quote]come on Sammy why wont you answer the question? it was simple enough so I will ask again, were you at the game yesterday? its a yes or no answer by the way! or are you just more interested in asking people for a fight? wow you must be a really really hard person![/p][/quote]Can be little doubt of it 101 - there's a comment on a toilet wall in Pompey bus station that states quite clearly Samuel 2heads gets hard when the fleet is in. He's clearly a ginger belt in shitestirring. The Solent area trembles. Lock up your dogs. jls217
  • Score: 3

10:51am Sun 10 Aug 14

jls217 says...

fascia123 wrote:
I think if you have two sheds you should become invisible on this site.
There would be plenty of place for him to hide from his mummy if he's got two of them, only outnumbered by the voices in his head and his imaginary friends.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: I think if you have two sheds you should become invisible on this site.[/p][/quote]There would be plenty of place for him to hide from his mummy if he's got two of them, only outnumbered by the voices in his head and his imaginary friends. jls217
  • Score: 1

10:51am Sun 10 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Bazultra wrote:
Tony in Liberia wrote:
So, would those who said the board would not be spending any more money, that hey are asset-stripping and about to nob off into the sunset with all the transfer kitty, now please come back on here and acknowledge that they were wrong?

If KL had wanted to keep all that dosh, why would she have allowed 10 million to be spent on a position where AB could have held the fort until a buyer was found for the club. You can argue all you like about whether 10 million is a fair price or not, but you cannot argue that spending it isn't a clear statement of intent to improve the squad and remain competitive.

Also, to all those who said why didn't we buy him seeks ago, Celtic made it quite clear that they wouldn't sell him while they were still in the Champion's League, and who can blame them since getting through the qualifiers is about all there is to actually play for, since they'll win everything else by default. When they went out the deal became live, and now he's ours.

And to those who point out that Celtic are back in the CL, perhaps this (along with RK saying that Morgan is not going to be sold no matter how far away from the pram he manages to get his toys) can be seen as proof that the board are prepared to play hardball when they feel they have a reasonable chance of winning!

Great buy, welcome to the club, and now let's get going on the new season! COYR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im not going to acknowledge I was wrong at all as nobody knows just yet. We sold the spine of our team Lovren, Lallana and Lambert before we even had any replacements. This in itself was bad business. You dont sell your car or give up a job until you have a new one Yes we have made additions to the squad now but at quite a low cost with the exception of Forster. As someone said in another post he plays in the SPL and could be found out in the premier league. With that said 10 mill seems alot. I dobt agree with everything the board has done but I will remain optimistic for now and I dont for one minute think we will be fighting a relegation battle. Having saud that Im a realist and dont think we will emulate are finish of 8th last season!
The analogy of selling your car and giving up your job surely doesn't apply this surely was more like being made redundant and having your car repossessed because you have run out of money.
Apart from the board said several times we didn't need to sell, are you saying they lied? The whole of Staplewood development is allowed to be financed outside of football income under the FFP rules so our only qualifying debt was £20m. So he was right, we should have signed before we sold.
Were we ever in the position to make that decision?

We had players kissing the badge one minute and forcing a transfer the next.

From what I have seen we have had more incoming transfer activity than in any other year, I presume you will accept it is far harder to recruit players than it is to stop players who have made up their minds to leave whatever their reason?

If it's so easy to run a club I am sure we would have every Tom dick and Harry doing it, Man Utd I suppose would be in recent years anyway the bench mark and look what happened to them last year.

Some people are never satisfied.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazultra[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: So, would those who said the board would not be spending any more money, that hey are asset-stripping and about to nob off into the sunset with all the transfer kitty, now please come back on here and acknowledge that they were wrong? If KL had wanted to keep all that dosh, why would she have allowed 10 million to be spent on a position where AB could have held the fort until a buyer was found for the club. You can argue all you like about whether 10 million is a fair price or not, but you cannot argue that spending it isn't a clear statement of intent to improve the squad and remain competitive. Also, to all those who said why didn't we buy him seeks ago, Celtic made it quite clear that they wouldn't sell him while they were still in the Champion's League, and who can blame them since getting through the qualifiers is about all there is to actually play for, since they'll win everything else by default. When they went out the deal became live, and now he's ours. And to those who point out that Celtic are back in the CL, perhaps this (along with RK saying that Morgan is not going to be sold no matter how far away from the pram he manages to get his toys) can be seen as proof that the board are prepared to play hardball when they feel they have a reasonable chance of winning! Great buy, welcome to the club, and now let's get going on the new season! COYR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Im not going to acknowledge I was wrong at all as nobody knows just yet. We sold the spine of our team Lovren, Lallana and Lambert before we even had any replacements. This in itself was bad business. You dont sell your car or give up a job until you have a new one Yes we have made additions to the squad now but at quite a low cost with the exception of Forster. As someone said in another post he plays in the SPL and could be found out in the premier league. With that said 10 mill seems alot. I dobt agree with everything the board has done but I will remain optimistic for now and I dont for one minute think we will be fighting a relegation battle. Having saud that Im a realist and dont think we will emulate are finish of 8th last season![/p][/quote]The analogy of selling your car and giving up your job surely doesn't apply this surely was more like being made redundant and having your car repossessed because you have run out of money.[/p][/quote]Apart from the board said several times we didn't need to sell, are you saying they lied? The whole of Staplewood development is allowed to be financed outside of football income under the FFP rules so our only qualifying debt was £20m. So he was right, we should have signed before we sold.[/p][/quote]Were we ever in the position to make that decision? We had players kissing the badge one minute and forcing a transfer the next. From what I have seen we have had more incoming transfer activity than in any other year, I presume you will accept it is far harder to recruit players than it is to stop players who have made up their minds to leave whatever their reason? If it's so easy to run a club I am sure we would have every Tom dick and Harry doing it, Man Utd I suppose would be in recent years anyway the bench mark and look what happened to them last year. Some people are never satisfied. fascia123
  • Score: 7

10:55am Sun 10 Aug 14

Mister E says...

So, as for a striker, apparently we are interested in Javier Hernandez and Wilfried Bony. If true I wonder what our chances are?
Javier has interested some big European clubs and Wilfried has Liverpool interested.
Anyone have an update on the centre backs we were interested in?
Last I heard a bid for Rojo was knocked back.
So, as for a striker, apparently we are interested in Javier Hernandez and Wilfried Bony. If true I wonder what our chances are? Javier has interested some big European clubs and Wilfried has Liverpool interested. Anyone have an update on the centre backs we were interested in? Last I heard a bid for Rojo was knocked back. Mister E
  • Score: 4

11:00am Sun 10 Aug 14

jls217 says...

thinklikealocal wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
one in the crowd wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
£10 million spent on a TOP keeper who is 3rd choice for a country rated 1 place below Bosnia in the latest FIFA rankings. Who spent most of last season watching the ball through binoculars, as his forwards piled on the goals against teams of pub league standard. But who has conceded SIX goals in his last TWO games against a side of League 2 standard. TOP!!
I predict the score next weekend against Liverpool will be :-

Liverpool 3 - Southampton 1

Then you will be panicking and rushing to spend money on filling the gaps in your team that you should have filled earlier, but didn't want to spend the cash on !
Liverpool don't have the strikers for 3-1. I don't think anyone would put their morgage on saints getting a result but we won't be panicking by any stretch. We have favourable fixtures and I think that will give us time to gel. We are not going to win the League after all. But then neither are Liverpool... I don't even think they will come second.
Or turd.....
Skating on thick as ****, or are you really Sammy 2planks - Missed you numpty, nice to have toy back on here. Off you - set the scene, just how're you going to allow us to humuliate you this week.

You and Samuel been having an argument in the cranium about who gets the computor at what time. I'd keep away from him if I were you (and the other friends) as Sammy keep offering to meet people for clandestine pasttimes. Not nice.
[quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: £10 million spent on a TOP keeper who is 3rd choice for a country rated 1 place below Bosnia in the latest FIFA rankings. Who spent most of last season watching the ball through binoculars, as his forwards piled on the goals against teams of pub league standard. But who has conceded SIX goals in his last TWO games against a side of League 2 standard. TOP!![/p][/quote]I predict the score next weekend against Liverpool will be :- Liverpool 3 - Southampton 1 Then you will be panicking and rushing to spend money on filling the gaps in your team that you should have filled earlier, but didn't want to spend the cash on ![/p][/quote]Liverpool don't have the strikers for 3-1. I don't think anyone would put their morgage on saints getting a result but we won't be panicking by any stretch. We have favourable fixtures and I think that will give us time to gel. We are not going to win the League after all. But then neither are Liverpool... I don't even think they will come second.[/p][/quote]Or turd.....[/p][/quote]Skating on thick as ****, or are you really Sammy 2planks - Missed you numpty, nice to have toy back on here. Off you - set the scene, just how're you going to allow us to humuliate you this week. You and Samuel been having an argument in the cranium about who gets the computor at what time. I'd keep away from him if I were you (and the other friends) as Sammy keep offering to meet people for clandestine pasttimes. Not nice. jls217
  • Score: 3

11:02am Sun 10 Aug 14

george chivers says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1.

£10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club.

oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?
I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first.

I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1. £10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club. oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?[/p][/quote]I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first. I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker. george chivers
  • Score: -3

11:02am Sun 10 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
A few people said yesterday that Florin Gardos is a done deal ?
Could be another position we need filling sorted.
Just a Two Bob story?
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: A few people said yesterday that Florin Gardos is a done deal ? Could be another position we need filling sorted.[/p][/quote]Just a Two Bob story? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

11:12am Sun 10 Aug 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Trying to be constructive but factual.

On yesterdays showing ( early days I know) but the new players do not look as good as the ones who have left, so we are a much weaker team at the moment.
We must buy BETTER Quality than we have got to improve the 11 on the pitch.

We are SCREAMING OUT for a top QUALITY STRIKER - Hernandez or better. Plus TWO CB's better than Jose, Maya still looks weak.

Also as it seems Morgan is off we need to buy Jordy Classie, urgently either way, because Morgan won't be the same player if he stays now. Hope he goes to Arsenal not Spurs.

Can we still keep J-Rod, Boruc, Cork & Cline ? Probably not if we don't start signing better quality players.

Les Reed needs some help, at least 4 or 5 top quality players required with only 3 weeks left until the end of the transfer window, time is running out.

COYR&WS
Trying to be constructive but factual. On yesterdays showing ( early days I know) but the new players do not look as good as the ones who have left, so we are a much weaker team at the moment. We must buy BETTER Quality than we have got to improve the 11 on the pitch. We are SCREAMING OUT for a top QUALITY STRIKER - Hernandez or better. Plus TWO CB's better than Jose, Maya still looks weak. Also as it seems Morgan is off we need to buy Jordy Classie, urgently either way, because Morgan won't be the same player if he stays now. Hope he goes to Arsenal not Spurs. Can we still keep J-Rod, Boruc, Cork & Cline ? Probably not if we don't start signing better quality players. Les Reed needs some help, at least 4 or 5 top quality players required with only 3 weeks left until the end of the transfer window, time is running out. COYR&WS NC Fan4Life
  • Score: -4

11:12am Sun 10 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

george chivers wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1.

£10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club.

oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?
I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first.

I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.
Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1. £10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club. oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?[/p][/quote]I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first. I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.[/p][/quote]Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 4

11:13am Sun 10 Aug 14

TPFKARTSNINZ says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
A few people said yesterday that Florin Gardos is a done deal ?
Could be another position we need filling sorted.
Just a Two Bob story?
I think we may be shilling out for one or two more players before Saturday.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: A few people said yesterday that Florin Gardos is a done deal ? Could be another position we need filling sorted.[/p][/quote]Just a Two Bob story?[/p][/quote]I think we may be shilling out for one or two more players before Saturday. TPFKARTSNINZ
  • Score: 3

11:13am Sun 10 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

george chivers wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1.

£10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club.

oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?
I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first.

I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.
What's ironic,is we were saying it was those three positions needed strengthening end of last season,and with a week to go,we've just got the goalkeeper in!
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1. £10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club. oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?[/p][/quote]I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first. I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.[/p][/quote]What's ironic,is we were saying it was those three positions needed strengthening end of last season,and with a week to go,we've just got the goalkeeper in! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

11:13am Sun 10 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

If sammy2 sheds is a wum, then he is one of the best I have ever seen, he only has to cast his line and you usual suspects take the bait every time.
Always, without fail, gets a reaction.
I reckon 30% of this thread has been taken up with sammy and his followers, they are probably checking in every 5 mins to see if he has posted something for them to get their teeth into.
S2S.... wumking 2014.
If sammy2 sheds is a wum, then he is one of the best I have ever seen, he only has to cast his line and you usual suspects take the bait every time. Always, without fail, gets a reaction. I reckon 30% of this thread has been taken up with sammy and his followers, they are probably checking in every 5 mins to see if he has posted something for them to get their teeth into. S2S.... wumking 2014. costa gaz
  • Score: 2

11:14am Sun 10 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Did anyone notice that RonKo was wearing potty chinos yesterday?
Did anyone notice that RonKo was wearing potty chinos yesterday? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -6

11:15am Sun 10 Aug 14

Block 42 says...

10million on an spl goalie??fo reals??..after watching pelle yeaterday mans dont fill me with cinfidence..jumps for everything wins nothing and hes slow..why do we keep signingbslow strikers?????????can someone anyone tell me why??we need a sergio kun aguero style striker its so obvious.
10million on an spl goalie??fo reals??..after watching pelle yeaterday mans dont fill me with cinfidence..jumps for everything wins nothing and hes slow..why do we keep signingbslow strikers?????????can someone anyone tell me why??we need a sergio kun aguero style striker its so obvious. Block 42
  • Score: -9

11:15am Sun 10 Aug 14

IOAD says...

Peter Shilton pulled off some absolutely unbelievable saves whilst at the club. To me, he remains the number one. But for sheer balls-out entertainment, Colin Clarke has to be in with a shout, even if he did go chasing glory and medals... with QPR.
Peter Shilton pulled off some absolutely unbelievable saves whilst at the club. To me, he remains the number one. But for sheer balls-out entertainment, Colin Clarke has to be in with a shout, even if he did go chasing glory and medals... with QPR. IOAD
  • Score: 0

11:17am Sun 10 Aug 14

hedge end bob says...

Guys i ask you all to put down your arms , take off your steele helmets and remember.


MARKUS LIEBHERR .......30TH MARCH 1948 TO 10TH AUGUST 2010..

THE BEST SIGNING THE CLUB WILL EVER MAKE.

R.I.P.
Guys i ask you all to put down your arms , take off your steele helmets and remember. MARKUS LIEBHERR .......30TH MARCH 1948 TO 10TH AUGUST 2010.. THE BEST SIGNING THE CLUB WILL EVER MAKE. R.I.P. hedge end bob
  • Score: 36

11:20am Sun 10 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Have the board ( not us) received good money for the players leaving, yes.
Have we from all reports replaced with better, no.
Have we improved our weak spots, absolutely not.
Are we capable of playing as we did last season, not on any of the friendly showings.
Our pressing and passing speed has gone, our lack of finishing remains and this will be accompanied by less chances to boot…
From everything I have seen and heard this will not be pretty.
With strength in Depth at the GK position - Happy Days.

Not so good is when one of the TV Pundits has us as part of a group that could in be trouble for Relegation ....

The issues are :

STRIKE - WE can have the making of a Good side - but if we are not firing in GOALS we will find ourselves in trouble. Cannot wait for JROD to be back - but additionally getting another Strike Option is needed in this window.

DEFENCE - We have sold 2 key members of our Defence and need to strengthen at CB in this transfer window.

We can IMPROVE our pressing and passing - but the same criticism being levelled at our side of doing that in the final third holds good - so PLENTY OF WORK remains on the Training Ground.
See for me that's constructive opinion not sure I would call it criticism and in the main I think every sensible saints fan could see that yesterday, but some on here I would just like to lock them up in a room together for a couple of days and let them bore the firk out of each other with the mundane twoddle they spout.
Of course you have never spouted mundane twaddle....
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Have the board ( not us) received good money for the players leaving, yes. Have we from all reports replaced with better, no. Have we improved our weak spots, absolutely not. Are we capable of playing as we did last season, not on any of the friendly showings. Our pressing and passing speed has gone, our lack of finishing remains and this will be accompanied by less chances to boot… From everything I have seen and heard this will not be pretty.[/p][/quote]With strength in Depth at the GK position - Happy Days. Not so good is when one of the TV Pundits has us as part of a group that could in be trouble for Relegation .... The issues are : STRIKE - WE can have the making of a Good side - but if we are not firing in GOALS we will find ourselves in trouble. Cannot wait for JROD to be back - but additionally getting another Strike Option is needed in this window. DEFENCE - We have sold 2 key members of our Defence and need to strengthen at CB in this transfer window. We can IMPROVE our pressing and passing - but the same criticism being levelled at our side of doing that in the final third holds good - so PLENTY OF WORK remains on the Training Ground.[/p][/quote]See for me that's constructive opinion not sure I would call it criticism and in the main I think every sensible saints fan could see that yesterday, but some on here I would just like to lock them up in a room together for a couple of days and let them bore the firk out of each other with the mundane twoddle they spout.[/p][/quote]Of course you have never spouted mundane twaddle.... costa gaz
  • Score: 0

11:20am Sun 10 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Guys i ask you all to put down your arms , take off your steele helmets and remember.


MARKUS LIEBHERR .......30TH MARCH 1948 TO 10TH AUGUST 2010..

THE BEST SIGNING THE CLUB WILL EVER MAKE.

R.I.P.
I put a thumbs up to your post and it's now at nought did some low life really put a thumbs down?
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Guys i ask you all to put down your arms , take off your steele helmets and remember. MARKUS LIEBHERR .......30TH MARCH 1948 TO 10TH AUGUST 2010.. THE BEST SIGNING THE CLUB WILL EVER MAKE. R.I.P.[/p][/quote]I put a thumbs up to your post and it's now at nought did some low life really put a thumbs down? fascia123
  • Score: 9

11:21am Sun 10 Aug 14

spratt says...

Genuine saints fans must now be feeling much more upbeat. Another top quality signing. With the squad as it stands today I would see a comfortable finish next season but to keep, or better, last seasons result there is need for some quality additions particularly as some have already said - top striker and defender. Ron must know there are players available so its time now for Reed to get out his cheque book and do some real business. The club has received money for most of the outgoing players far in advance of their worth so we all know the funds are there to bring in the very best - never mind the cost. Just get on with it.
Genuine saints fans must now be feeling much more upbeat. Another top quality signing. With the squad as it stands today I would see a comfortable finish next season but to keep, or better, last seasons result there is need for some quality additions particularly as some have already said - top striker and defender[s]. Ron must know there are players available so its time now for Reed to get out his cheque book and do some real business. The club has received money for most of the outgoing players far in advance of their worth so we all know the funds are there to bring in the very best - never mind the cost. Just get on with it. spratt
  • Score: 0

11:21am Sun 10 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Bazultra wrote:
Tony in Liberia wrote:
So, would those who said the board would not be spending any more money, that hey are asset-stripping and about to nob off into the sunset with all the transfer kitty, now please come back on here and acknowledge that they were wrong?

If KL had wanted to keep all that dosh, why would she have allowed 10 million to be spent on a position where AB could have held the fort until a buyer was found for the club. You can argue all you like about whether 10 million is a fair price or not, but you cannot argue that spending it isn't a clear statement of intent to improve the squad and remain competitive.

Also, to all those who said why didn't we buy him seeks ago, Celtic made it quite clear that they wouldn't sell him while they were still in the Champion's League, and who can blame them since getting through the qualifiers is about all there is to actually play for, since they'll win everything else by default. When they went out the deal became live, and now he's ours.

And to those who point out that Celtic are back in the CL, perhaps this (along with RK saying that Morgan is not going to be sold no matter how far away from the pram he manages to get his toys) can be seen as proof that the board are prepared to play hardball when they feel they have a reasonable chance of winning!

Great buy, welcome to the club, and now let's get going on the new season! COYR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im not going to acknowledge I was wrong at all as nobody knows just yet. We sold the spine of our team Lovren, Lallana and Lambert before we even had any replacements. This in itself was bad business. You dont sell your car or give up a job until you have a new one Yes we have made additions to the squad now but at quite a low cost with the exception of Forster. As someone said in another post he plays in the SPL and could be found out in the premier league. With that said 10 mill seems alot. I dobt agree with everything the board has done but I will remain optimistic for now and I dont for one minute think we will be fighting a relegation battle. Having saud that Im a realist and dont think we will emulate are finish of 8th last season!
The analogy of selling your car and giving up your job surely doesn't apply this surely was more like being made redundant and having your car repossessed because you have run out of money.
Apart from the board said several times we didn't need to sell, are you saying they lied? The whole of Staplewood development is allowed to be financed outside of football income under the FFP rules so our only qualifying debt was £20m. So he was right, we should have signed before we sold.
of the players that left we know 2 had deals saying they could go, so why keep them any longer than we have to? the fees were great and might have been removed if we had held out for more.
its not always that straight forward to replace them, Ronnie came in and needed to look at the squad before he decided which players we wanted to go for. players, like forster, also aren't available straight away, and we are trying to get rojo bu its clear that the dual ownership is causing a delay as they are probably trying to hold out for bigger bids from other clubs so they can increase their share.
do we want the club to do its business like spuds did last year? getting players in at high fees with the manager not having a say? id rather Ronnie had a say in who we got, even if that did take a couple of weeks extra. players don't take as long to `gell` as some think, they do get more of an understanding the longer they play together and most of our squad has been together for quite a while. of the 5 that have gone only 2 had been in the first team for more than a season and a half.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazultra[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: So, would those who said the board would not be spending any more money, that hey are asset-stripping and about to nob off into the sunset with all the transfer kitty, now please come back on here and acknowledge that they were wrong? If KL had wanted to keep all that dosh, why would she have allowed 10 million to be spent on a position where AB could have held the fort until a buyer was found for the club. You can argue all you like about whether 10 million is a fair price or not, but you cannot argue that spending it isn't a clear statement of intent to improve the squad and remain competitive. Also, to all those who said why didn't we buy him seeks ago, Celtic made it quite clear that they wouldn't sell him while they were still in the Champion's League, and who can blame them since getting through the qualifiers is about all there is to actually play for, since they'll win everything else by default. When they went out the deal became live, and now he's ours. And to those who point out that Celtic are back in the CL, perhaps this (along with RK saying that Morgan is not going to be sold no matter how far away from the pram he manages to get his toys) can be seen as proof that the board are prepared to play hardball when they feel they have a reasonable chance of winning! Great buy, welcome to the club, and now let's get going on the new season! COYR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Im not going to acknowledge I was wrong at all as nobody knows just yet. We sold the spine of our team Lovren, Lallana and Lambert before we even had any replacements. This in itself was bad business. You dont sell your car or give up a job until you have a new one Yes we have made additions to the squad now but at quite a low cost with the exception of Forster. As someone said in another post he plays in the SPL and could be found out in the premier league. With that said 10 mill seems alot. I dobt agree with everything the board has done but I will remain optimistic for now and I dont for one minute think we will be fighting a relegation battle. Having saud that Im a realist and dont think we will emulate are finish of 8th last season![/p][/quote]The analogy of selling your car and giving up your job surely doesn't apply this surely was more like being made redundant and having your car repossessed because you have run out of money.[/p][/quote]Apart from the board said several times we didn't need to sell, are you saying they lied? The whole of Staplewood development is allowed to be financed outside of football income under the FFP rules so our only qualifying debt was £20m. So he was right, we should have signed before we sold.[/p][/quote]of the players that left we know 2 had deals saying they could go, so why keep them any longer than we have to? the fees were great and might have been removed if we had held out for more. its not always that straight forward to replace them, Ronnie came in and needed to look at the squad before he decided which players we wanted to go for. players, like forster, also aren't available straight away, and we are trying to get rojo bu its clear that the dual ownership is causing a delay as they are probably trying to hold out for bigger bids from other clubs so they can increase their share. do we want the club to do its business like spuds did last year? getting players in at high fees with the manager not having a say? id rather Ronnie had a say in who we got, even if that did take a couple of weeks extra. players don't take as long to `gell` as some think, they do get more of an understanding the longer they play together and most of our squad has been together for quite a while. of the 5 that have gone only 2 had been in the first team for more than a season and a half. de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 6

11:21am Sun 10 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Block 42 wrote:
10million on an spl goalie??fo reals??..after watching pelle yeaterday mans dont fill me with cinfidence..jumps for everything wins nothing and hes slow..why do we keep signingbslow strikers?????????can someone anyone tell me why??we need a sergio kun aguero style striker its so obvious.
So as Guly has gone you feel the need to pick on someone else?
[quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: 10million on an spl goalie??fo reals??..after watching pelle yeaterday mans dont fill me with cinfidence..jumps for everything wins nothing and hes slow..why do we keep signingbslow strikers?????????can someone anyone tell me why??we need a sergio kun aguero style striker its so obvious.[/p][/quote]So as Guly has gone you feel the need to pick on someone else? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 3

11:21am Sun 10 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Guys i ask you all to put down your arms , take off your steele helmets and remember.


MARKUS LIEBHERR .......30TH MARCH 1948 TO 10TH AUGUST 2010..

THE BEST SIGNING THE CLUB WILL EVER MAKE.

R.I.P.
AMEN!
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Guys i ask you all to put down your arms , take off your steele helmets and remember. MARKUS LIEBHERR .......30TH MARCH 1948 TO 10TH AUGUST 2010.. THE BEST SIGNING THE CLUB WILL EVER MAKE. R.I.P.[/p][/quote]AMEN! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 12

11:24am Sun 10 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Have the board ( not us) received good money for the players leaving, yes.
Have we from all reports replaced with better, no.
Have we improved our weak spots, absolutely not.
Are we capable of playing as we did last season, not on any of the friendly showings.
Our pressing and passing speed has gone, our lack of finishing remains and this will be accompanied by less chances to boot…
From everything I have seen and heard this will not be pretty.
With strength in Depth at the GK position - Happy Days.

Not so good is when one of the TV Pundits has us as part of a group that could in be trouble for Relegation ....

The issues are :

STRIKE - WE can have the making of a Good side - but if we are not firing in GOALS we will find ourselves in trouble. Cannot wait for JROD to be back - but additionally getting another Strike Option is needed in this window.

DEFENCE - We have sold 2 key members of our Defence and need to strengthen at CB in this transfer window.

We can IMPROVE our pressing and passing - but the same criticism being levelled at our side of doing that in the final third holds good - so PLENTY OF WORK remains on the Training Ground.
See for me that's constructive opinion not sure I would call it criticism and in the main I think every sensible saints fan could see that yesterday, but some on here I would just like to lock them up in a room together for a couple of days and let them bore the firk out of each other with the mundane twoddle they spout.
Of course you have never spouted mundane twaddle....
No i don't think I do, I like to think I think about what I post.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Have the board ( not us) received good money for the players leaving, yes. Have we from all reports replaced with better, no. Have we improved our weak spots, absolutely not. Are we capable of playing as we did last season, not on any of the friendly showings. Our pressing and passing speed has gone, our lack of finishing remains and this will be accompanied by less chances to boot… From everything I have seen and heard this will not be pretty.[/p][/quote]With strength in Depth at the GK position - Happy Days. Not so good is when one of the TV Pundits has us as part of a group that could in be trouble for Relegation .... The issues are : STRIKE - WE can have the making of a Good side - but if we are not firing in GOALS we will find ourselves in trouble. Cannot wait for JROD to be back - but additionally getting another Strike Option is needed in this window. DEFENCE - We have sold 2 key members of our Defence and need to strengthen at CB in this transfer window. We can IMPROVE our pressing and passing - but the same criticism being levelled at our side of doing that in the final third holds good - so PLENTY OF WORK remains on the Training Ground.[/p][/quote]See for me that's constructive opinion not sure I would call it criticism and in the main I think every sensible saints fan could see that yesterday, but some on here I would just like to lock them up in a room together for a couple of days and let them bore the firk out of each other with the mundane twoddle they spout.[/p][/quote]Of course you have never spouted mundane twaddle....[/p][/quote]No i don't think I do, I like to think I think about what I post. fascia123
  • Score: 3

11:26am Sun 10 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Guys i ask you all to put down your arms , take off your steele helmets and remember.


MARKUS LIEBHERR .......30TH MARCH 1948 TO 10TH AUGUST 2010..

THE BEST SIGNING THE CLUB WILL EVER MAKE.

R.I.P.
Seconded, RIP Markus our Saviour.
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Guys i ask you all to put down your arms , take off your steele helmets and remember. MARKUS LIEBHERR .......30TH MARCH 1948 TO 10TH AUGUST 2010.. THE BEST SIGNING THE CLUB WILL EVER MAKE. R.I.P.[/p][/quote]Seconded, RIP Markus our Saviour. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 8

11:29am Sun 10 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Bazultra wrote:
Tony in Liberia wrote:
So, would those who said the board would not be spending any more money, that hey are asset-stripping and about to nob off into the sunset with all the transfer kitty, now please come back on here and acknowledge that they were wrong?

If KL had wanted to keep all that dosh, why would she have allowed 10 million to be spent on a position where AB could have held the fort until a buyer was found for the club. You can argue all you like about whether 10 million is a fair price or not, but you cannot argue that spending it isn't a clear statement of intent to improve the squad and remain competitive.

Also, to all those who said why didn't we buy him seeks ago, Celtic made it quite clear that they wouldn't sell him while they were still in the Champion's League, and who can blame them since getting through the qualifiers is about all there is to actually play for, since they'll win everything else by default. When they went out the deal became live, and now he's ours.

And to those who point out that Celtic are back in the CL, perhaps this (along with RK saying that Morgan is not going to be sold no matter how far away from the pram he manages to get his toys) can be seen as proof that the board are prepared to play hardball when they feel they have a reasonable chance of winning!

Great buy, welcome to the club, and now let's get going on the new season! COYR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im not going to acknowledge I was wrong at all as nobody knows just yet. We sold the spine of our team Lovren, Lallana and Lambert before we even had any replacements. This in itself was bad business. You dont sell your car or give up a job until you have a new one Yes we have made additions to the squad now but at quite a low cost with the exception of Forster. As someone said in another post he plays in the SPL and could be found out in the premier league. With that said 10 mill seems alot. I dobt agree with everything the board has done but I will remain optimistic for now and I dont for one minute think we will be fighting a relegation battle. Having saud that Im a realist and dont think we will emulate are finish of 8th last season!
The analogy of selling your car and giving up your job surely doesn't apply this surely was more like being made redundant and having your car repossessed because you have run out of money.
Apart from the board said several times we didn't need to sell, are you saying they lied? The whole of Staplewood development is allowed to be financed outside of football income under the FFP rules so our only qualifying debt was £20m. So he was right, we should have signed before we sold.
of the players that left we know 2 had deals saying they could go, so why keep them any longer than we have to? the fees were great and might have been removed if we had held out for more.
its not always that straight forward to replace them, Ronnie came in and needed to look at the squad before he decided which players we wanted to go for. players, like forster, also aren't available straight away, and we are trying to get rojo bu its clear that the dual ownership is causing a delay as they are probably trying to hold out for bigger bids from other clubs so they can increase their share.
do we want the club to do its business like spuds did last year? getting players in at high fees with the manager not having a say? id rather Ronnie had a say in who we got, even if that did take a couple of weeks extra. players don't take as long to `gell` as some think, they do get more of an understanding the longer they play together and most of our squad has been together for quite a while. of the 5 that have gone only 2 had been in the first team for more than a season and a half.
Costa

This is also a well thought about post.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazultra[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: So, would those who said the board would not be spending any more money, that hey are asset-stripping and about to nob off into the sunset with all the transfer kitty, now please come back on here and acknowledge that they were wrong? If KL had wanted to keep all that dosh, why would she have allowed 10 million to be spent on a position where AB could have held the fort until a buyer was found for the club. You can argue all you like about whether 10 million is a fair price or not, but you cannot argue that spending it isn't a clear statement of intent to improve the squad and remain competitive. Also, to all those who said why didn't we buy him seeks ago, Celtic made it quite clear that they wouldn't sell him while they were still in the Champion's League, and who can blame them since getting through the qualifiers is about all there is to actually play for, since they'll win everything else by default. When they went out the deal became live, and now he's ours. And to those who point out that Celtic are back in the CL, perhaps this (along with RK saying that Morgan is not going to be sold no matter how far away from the pram he manages to get his toys) can be seen as proof that the board are prepared to play hardball when they feel they have a reasonable chance of winning! Great buy, welcome to the club, and now let's get going on the new season! COYR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Im not going to acknowledge I was wrong at all as nobody knows just yet. We sold the spine of our team Lovren, Lallana and Lambert before we even had any replacements. This in itself was bad business. You dont sell your car or give up a job until you have a new one Yes we have made additions to the squad now but at quite a low cost with the exception of Forster. As someone said in another post he plays in the SPL and could be found out in the premier league. With that said 10 mill seems alot. I dobt agree with everything the board has done but I will remain optimistic for now and I dont for one minute think we will be fighting a relegation battle. Having saud that Im a realist and dont think we will emulate are finish of 8th last season![/p][/quote]The analogy of selling your car and giving up your job surely doesn't apply this surely was more like being made redundant and having your car repossessed because you have run out of money.[/p][/quote]Apart from the board said several times we didn't need to sell, are you saying they lied? The whole of Staplewood development is allowed to be financed outside of football income under the FFP rules so our only qualifying debt was £20m. So he was right, we should have signed before we sold.[/p][/quote]of the players that left we know 2 had deals saying they could go, so why keep them any longer than we have to? the fees were great and might have been removed if we had held out for more. its not always that straight forward to replace them, Ronnie came in and needed to look at the squad before he decided which players we wanted to go for. players, like forster, also aren't available straight away, and we are trying to get rojo bu its clear that the dual ownership is causing a delay as they are probably trying to hold out for bigger bids from other clubs so they can increase their share. do we want the club to do its business like spuds did last year? getting players in at high fees with the manager not having a say? id rather Ronnie had a say in who we got, even if that did take a couple of weeks extra. players don't take as long to `gell` as some think, they do get more of an understanding the longer they play together and most of our squad has been together for quite a while. of the 5 that have gone only 2 had been in the first team for more than a season and a half.[/p][/quote]Costa This is also a well thought about post. fascia123
  • Score: 3

11:32am Sun 10 Aug 14

Northam Block 40 says...

Welcome to southampton Fraser!!! Went to the game yesterday and had a great day out!! I want to apologise for my rant about the new kit. It actually looks like it fits well and isnt some cheap nasty material that i had suggested when i saw the red mist. Looking forward to the season starting now got me Scousehampton away ticket just need a new striker and CB which of course even the seagulls flying over St Marys know that by now lol COYR WTFILN !!!!!
Welcome to southampton Fraser!!! Went to the game yesterday and had a great day out!! I want to apologise for my rant about the new kit. It actually looks like it fits well and isnt some cheap nasty material that i had suggested when i saw the red mist. Looking forward to the season starting now got me Scousehampton away ticket just need a new striker and CB which of course even the seagulls flying over St Marys know that by now lol COYR WTFILN !!!!! Northam Block 40
  • Score: 6

11:32am Sun 10 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

fascia123 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Bazultra wrote:
Tony in Liberia wrote:
So, would those who said the board would not be spending any more money, that hey are asset-stripping and about to nob off into the sunset with all the transfer kitty, now please come back on here and acknowledge that they were wrong?

If KL had wanted to keep all that dosh, why would she have allowed 10 million to be spent on a position where AB could have held the fort until a buyer was found for the club. You can argue all you like about whether 10 million is a fair price or not, but you cannot argue that spending it isn't a clear statement of intent to improve the squad and remain competitive.

Also, to all those who said why didn't we buy him seeks ago, Celtic made it quite clear that they wouldn't sell him while they were still in the Champion's League, and who can blame them since getting through the qualifiers is about all there is to actually play for, since they'll win everything else by default. When they went out the deal became live, and now he's ours.

And to those who point out that Celtic are back in the CL, perhaps this (along with RK saying that Morgan is not going to be sold no matter how far away from the pram he manages to get his toys) can be seen as proof that the board are prepared to play hardball when they feel they have a reasonable chance of winning!

Great buy, welcome to the club, and now let's get going on the new season! COYR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im not going to acknowledge I was wrong at all as nobody knows just yet. We sold the spine of our team Lovren, Lallana and Lambert before we even had any replacements. This in itself was bad business. You dont sell your car or give up a job until you have a new one Yes we have made additions to the squad now but at quite a low cost with the exception of Forster. As someone said in another post he plays in the SPL and could be found out in the premier league. With that said 10 mill seems alot. I dobt agree with everything the board has done but I will remain optimistic for now and I dont for one minute think we will be fighting a relegation battle. Having saud that Im a realist and dont think we will emulate are finish of 8th last season!
The analogy of selling your car and giving up your job surely doesn't apply this surely was more like being made redundant and having your car repossessed because you have run out of money.
Apart from the board said several times we didn't need to sell, are you saying they lied? The whole of Staplewood development is allowed to be financed outside of football income under the FFP rules so our only qualifying debt was £20m. So he was right, we should have signed before we sold.
Were we ever in the position to make that decision?

We had players kissing the badge one minute and forcing a transfer the next.

From what I have seen we have had more incoming transfer activity than in any other year, I presume you will accept it is far harder to recruit players than it is to stop players who have made up their minds to leave whatever their reason?

If it's so easy to run a club I am sure we would have every Tom dick and Harry doing it, Man Utd I suppose would be in recent years anyway the bench mark and look what happened to them last year.

Some people are never satisfied.
I totally agree it's easier to sell than buy, look at the Lambert deal. Ralph got a phone call on the Thursday, just after his TV interview, and the deal was completed on the Sunday. Just three days to agree a fee, the player to pass a medical and agree personal terms, amazing really but shows what can be achieved.

All I am saying is that a number of clubs do not let the player go until his replacement is signed. Shaw signed for Man U on a Thursday, on the Friday Buttner was gone to Moscow or wherever. I suppose they were just dotting i's and crossing t's just incase the Shaw deal collapsed they were not going to leave themselves light.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazultra[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: So, would those who said the board would not be spending any more money, that hey are asset-stripping and about to nob off into the sunset with all the transfer kitty, now please come back on here and acknowledge that they were wrong? If KL had wanted to keep all that dosh, why would she have allowed 10 million to be spent on a position where AB could have held the fort until a buyer was found for the club. You can argue all you like about whether 10 million is a fair price or not, but you cannot argue that spending it isn't a clear statement of intent to improve the squad and remain competitive. Also, to all those who said why didn't we buy him seeks ago, Celtic made it quite clear that they wouldn't sell him while they were still in the Champion's League, and who can blame them since getting through the qualifiers is about all there is to actually play for, since they'll win everything else by default. When they went out the deal became live, and now he's ours. And to those who point out that Celtic are back in the CL, perhaps this (along with RK saying that Morgan is not going to be sold no matter how far away from the pram he manages to get his toys) can be seen as proof that the board are prepared to play hardball when they feel they have a reasonable chance of winning! Great buy, welcome to the club, and now let's get going on the new season! COYR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Im not going to acknowledge I was wrong at all as nobody knows just yet. We sold the spine of our team Lovren, Lallana and Lambert before we even had any replacements. This in itself was bad business. You dont sell your car or give up a job until you have a new one Yes we have made additions to the squad now but at quite a low cost with the exception of Forster. As someone said in another post he plays in the SPL and could be found out in the premier league. With that said 10 mill seems alot. I dobt agree with everything the board has done but I will remain optimistic for now and I dont for one minute think we will be fighting a relegation battle. Having saud that Im a realist and dont think we will emulate are finish of 8th last season![/p][/quote]The analogy of selling your car and giving up your job surely doesn't apply this surely was more like being made redundant and having your car repossessed because you have run out of money.[/p][/quote]Apart from the board said several times we didn't need to sell, are you saying they lied? The whole of Staplewood development is allowed to be financed outside of football income under the FFP rules so our only qualifying debt was £20m. So he was right, we should have signed before we sold.[/p][/quote]Were we ever in the position to make that decision? We had players kissing the badge one minute and forcing a transfer the next. From what I have seen we have had more incoming transfer activity than in any other year, I presume you will accept it is far harder to recruit players than it is to stop players who have made up their minds to leave whatever their reason? If it's so easy to run a club I am sure we would have every Tom dick and Harry doing it, Man Utd I suppose would be in recent years anyway the bench mark and look what happened to them last year. Some people are never satisfied.[/p][/quote]I totally agree it's easier to sell than buy, look at the Lambert deal. Ralph got a phone call on the Thursday, just after his TV interview, and the deal was completed on the Sunday. Just three days to agree a fee, the player to pass a medical and agree personal terms, amazing really but shows what can be achieved. All I am saying is that a number of clubs do not let the player go until his replacement is signed. Shaw signed for Man U on a Thursday, on the Friday Buttner was gone to Moscow or wherever. I suppose they were just dotting i's and crossing t's just incase the Shaw deal collapsed they were not going to leave themselves light. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -4

11:32am Sun 10 Aug 14

redandy10 says...

costa gaz wrote:
If sammy2 sheds is a wum, then he is one of the best I have ever seen, he only has to cast his line and you usual suspects take the bait every time.
Always, without fail, gets a reaction.
I reckon 30% of this thread has been taken up with sammy and his followers, they are probably checking in every 5 mins to see if he has posted something for them to get their teeth into.
S2S.... wumking 2014.
It's like he's visiting a zoo and rattling the cages of the bored inhabitants, trying and succeeding in antagonising them. They await his visits with great anticipation, panting and tails wagging, to fling some insult at him. The insult always seems to be water off a duck's back for him as he always comes back when he needs further amusing.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: If sammy2 sheds is a wum, then he is one of the best I have ever seen, he only has to cast his line and you usual suspects take the bait every time. Always, without fail, gets a reaction. I reckon 30% of this thread has been taken up with sammy and his followers, they are probably checking in every 5 mins to see if he has posted something for them to get their teeth into. S2S.... wumking 2014.[/p][/quote]It's like he's visiting a zoo and rattling the cages of the bored inhabitants, trying and succeeding in antagonising them. They await his visits with great anticipation, panting and tails wagging, to fling some insult at him. The insult always seems to be water off a duck's back for him as he always comes back when he needs further amusing. redandy10
  • Score: -1

11:33am Sun 10 Aug 14

Block 42 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Block 42 wrote:
10million on an spl goalie??fo reals??..after watching pelle yeaterday mans dont fill me with cinfidence..jumps for everything wins nothing and hes slow..why do we keep signingbslow strikers?????????can someone anyone tell me why??we need a sergio kun aguero style striker its so obvious.
So as Guly has gone you feel the need to pick on someone else?
Your kinda dodging my question..I guess u don't know why fair dinkom I guess..its true tho we tend to buy slow strikers and at 8 mill im expecting massive things from pelle..he just seems to have no pace and dosnt win much for a big dude..we need a jay hernandez style player who can breacha d fence but some of u on here seem to know very little bout football and think pelle is better than hernandez...f@@k my old boots
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: 10million on an spl goalie??fo reals??..after watching pelle yeaterday mans dont fill me with cinfidence..jumps for everything wins nothing and hes slow..why do we keep signingbslow strikers?????????can someone anyone tell me why??we need a sergio kun aguero style striker its so obvious.[/p][/quote]So as Guly has gone you feel the need to pick on someone else?[/p][/quote]Your kinda dodging my question..I guess u don't know why fair dinkom I guess..its true tho we tend to buy slow strikers and at 8 mill im expecting massive things from pelle..he just seems to have no pace and dosnt win much for a big dude..we need a jay hernandez style player who can breacha d fence but some of u on here seem to know very little bout football and think pelle is better than hernandez...f@@k my old boots Block 42
  • Score: -2

11:37am Sun 10 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

redandy10 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
If sammy2 sheds is a wum, then he is one of the best I have ever seen, he only has to cast his line and you usual suspects take the bait every time.
Always, without fail, gets a reaction.
I reckon 30% of this thread has been taken up with sammy and his followers, they are probably checking in every 5 mins to see if he has posted something for them to get their teeth into.
S2S.... wumking 2014.
It's like he's visiting a zoo and rattling the cages of the bored inhabitants, trying and succeeding in antagonising them. They await his visits with great anticipation, panting and tails wagging, to fling some insult at him. The insult always seems to be water off a duck's back for him as he always comes back when he needs further amusing.
Wumming is psychological warfare,designed to feed the ego of the perpetrator, whilst unsettling the opponents.One in the Crowd/Search for the Truth,is a prime example.The best and most simple defence,is to ignore,thus dousing the flames of ego..no one pours petrol on a fire,to put it out.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: If sammy2 sheds is a wum, then he is one of the best I have ever seen, he only has to cast his line and you usual suspects take the bait every time. Always, without fail, gets a reaction. I reckon 30% of this thread has been taken up with sammy and his followers, they are probably checking in every 5 mins to see if he has posted something for them to get their teeth into. S2S.... wumking 2014.[/p][/quote]It's like he's visiting a zoo and rattling the cages of the bored inhabitants, trying and succeeding in antagonising them. They await his visits with great anticipation, panting and tails wagging, to fling some insult at him. The insult always seems to be water off a duck's back for him as he always comes back when he needs further amusing.[/p][/quote]Wumming is psychological warfare,designed to feed the ego of the perpetrator, whilst unsettling the opponents.One in the Crowd/Search for the Truth,is a prime example.The best and most simple defence,is to ignore,thus dousing the flames of ego..no one pours petrol on a fire,to put it out. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

11:39am Sun 10 Aug 14

Mister E says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Guys i ask you all to put down your arms , take off your steele helmets and remember.


MARKUS LIEBHERR .......30TH MARCH 1948 TO 10TH AUGUST 2010..

THE BEST SIGNING THE CLUB WILL EVER MAKE.

R.I.P.
Seconded, RIP Markus our Saviour.
God bless you Markus.
R I P
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Guys i ask you all to put down your arms , take off your steele helmets and remember. MARKUS LIEBHERR .......30TH MARCH 1948 TO 10TH AUGUST 2010.. THE BEST SIGNING THE CLUB WILL EVER MAKE. R.I.P.[/p][/quote]Seconded, RIP Markus our Saviour.[/p][/quote]God bless you Markus. R I P Mister E
  • Score: 12

11:40am Sun 10 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Guys i ask you all to put down your arms , take off your steele helmets and remember.


MARKUS LIEBHERR .......30TH MARCH 1948 TO 10TH AUGUST 2010..

THE BEST SIGNING THE CLUB WILL EVER MAKE.

R.I.P.
That's one thing we can all easily agree on!

RIP Markus and many thanks.
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Guys i ask you all to put down your arms , take off your steele helmets and remember. MARKUS LIEBHERR .......30TH MARCH 1948 TO 10TH AUGUST 2010.. THE BEST SIGNING THE CLUB WILL EVER MAKE. R.I.P.[/p][/quote]That's one thing we can all easily agree on! RIP Markus and many thanks. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 10

11:40am Sun 10 Aug 14

SNUGGLES 78 says...

saints ambition left with maurie and nici boy ,downhill from here .
saints ambition left with maurie and nici boy ,downhill from here . SNUGGLES 78
  • Score: -8

11:41am Sun 10 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Bazultra wrote:
Tony in Liberia wrote:
So, would those who said the board would not be spending any more money, that hey are asset-stripping and about to nob off into the sunset with all the transfer kitty, now please come back on here and acknowledge that they were wrong?

If KL had wanted to keep all that dosh, why would she have allowed 10 million to be spent on a position where AB could have held the fort until a buyer was found for the club. You can argue all you like about whether 10 million is a fair price or not, but you cannot argue that spending it isn't a clear statement of intent to improve the squad and remain competitive.

Also, to all those who said why didn't we buy him seeks ago, Celtic made it quite clear that they wouldn't sell him while they were still in the Champion's League, and who can blame them since getting through the qualifiers is about all there is to actually play for, since they'll win everything else by default. When they went out the deal became live, and now he's ours.

And to those who point out that Celtic are back in the CL, perhaps this (along with RK saying that Morgan is not going to be sold no matter how far away from the pram he manages to get his toys) can be seen as proof that the board are prepared to play hardball when they feel they have a reasonable chance of winning!

Great buy, welcome to the club, and now let's get going on the new season! COYR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!






!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im not going to acknowledge I was wrong at all as nobody knows just yet. We sold the spine of our team Lovren, Lallana and Lambert before we even had any replacements. This in itself was bad business. You dont sell your car or give up a job until you have a new one Yes we have made additions to the squad now but at quite a low cost with the exception of Forster. As someone said in another post he plays in the SPL and could be found out in the premier league. With that said 10 mill seems alot. I dobt agree with everything the board has done but I will remain optimistic for now and I dont for one minute think we will be fighting a relegation battle. Having saud that Im a realist and dont think we will emulate are finish of 8th last season!
The analogy of selling your car and giving up your job surely doesn't apply this surely was more like being made redundant and having your car repossessed because you have run out of money.
Apart from the board said several times we didn't need to sell, are you saying they lied? The whole of Staplewood development is allowed to be financed outside of football income under the FFP rules so our only qualifying debt was £20m. So he was right, we should have signed before we sold.
Were we ever in the position to make that decision?

We had players kissing the badge one minute and forcing a transfer the next.

From what I have seen we have had more incoming transfer activity than in any other year, I presume you will accept it is far harder to recruit players than it is to stop players who have made up their minds to leave whatever their reason?

If it's so easy to run a club I am sure we would have every Tom dick and Harry doing it, Man Utd I suppose would be in recent years anyway the bench mark and look what happened to them last year.

Some people are never satisfied.
I totally agree it's easier to sell than buy, look at the Lambert deal. Ralph got a phone call on the Thursday, just after his TV interview, and the deal was completed on the Sunday. Just three days to agree a fee, the player to pass a medical and agree personal terms, amazing really but shows what can be achieved.

All I am saying is that a number of clubs do not let the player go until his replacement is signed. Shaw signed for Man U on a Thursday, on the Friday Buttner was gone to Moscow or wherever. I suppose they were just dotting i's and crossing t's just incase the Shaw deal collapsed they were not going to leave themselves light.
Sorry think you got the brunt of my frustration at some of the thoughtless posts, did you go yesterday, if so what did you think?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazultra[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: So, would those who said the board would not be spending any more money, that hey are asset-stripping and about to nob off into the sunset with all the transfer kitty, now please come back on here and acknowledge that they were wrong? If KL had wanted to keep all that dosh, why would she have allowed 10 million to be spent on a position where AB could have held the fort until a buyer was found for the club. You can argue all you like about whether 10 million is a fair price or not, but you cannot argue that spending it isn't a clear statement of intent to improve the squad and remain competitive. Also, to all those who said why didn't we buy him seeks ago, Celtic made it quite clear that they wouldn't sell him while they were still in the Champion's League, and who can blame them since getting through the qualifiers is about all there is to actually play for, since they'll win everything else by default. When they went out the deal became live, and now he's ours. And to those who point out that Celtic are back in the CL, perhaps this (along with RK saying that Morgan is not going to be sold no matter how far away from the pram he manages to get his toys) can be seen as proof that the board are prepared to play hardball when they feel they have a reasonable chance of winning! Great buy, welcome to the club, and now let's get going on the new season! COYR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Im not going to acknowledge I was wrong at all as nobody knows just yet. We sold the spine of our team Lovren, Lallana and Lambert before we even had any replacements. This in itself was bad business. You dont sell your car or give up a job until you have a new one Yes we have made additions to the squad now but at quite a low cost with the exception of Forster. As someone said in another post he plays in the SPL and could be found out in the premier league. With that said 10 mill seems alot. I dobt agree with everything the board has done but I will remain optimistic for now and I dont for one minute think we will be fighting a relegation battle. Having saud that Im a realist and dont think we will emulate are finish of 8th last season![/p][/quote]The analogy of selling your car and giving up your job surely doesn't apply this surely was more like being made redundant and having your car repossessed because you have run out of money.[/p][/quote]Apart from the board said several times we didn't need to sell, are you saying they lied? The whole of Staplewood development is allowed to be financed outside of football income under the FFP rules so our only qualifying debt was £20m. So he was right, we should have signed before we sold.[/p][/quote]Were we ever in the position to make that decision? We had players kissing the badge one minute and forcing a transfer the next. From what I have seen we have had more incoming transfer activity than in any other year, I presume you will accept it is far harder to recruit players than it is to stop players who have made up their minds to leave whatever their reason? If it's so easy to run a club I am sure we would have every Tom dick and Harry doing it, Man Utd I suppose would be in recent years anyway the bench mark and look what happened to them last year. Some people are never satisfied.[/p][/quote]I totally agree it's easier to sell than buy, look at the Lambert deal. Ralph got a phone call on the Thursday, just after his TV interview, and the deal was completed on the Sunday. Just three days to agree a fee, the player to pass a medical and agree personal terms, amazing really but shows what can be achieved. All I am saying is that a number of clubs do not let the player go until his replacement is signed. Shaw signed for Man U on a Thursday, on the Friday Buttner was gone to Moscow or wherever. I suppose they were just dotting i's and crossing t's just incase the Shaw deal collapsed they were not going to leave themselves light.[/p][/quote]Sorry think you got the brunt of my frustration at some of the thoughtless posts, did you go yesterday, if so what did you think? fascia123
  • Score: 2

11:47am Sun 10 Aug 14

poshdave says...

........well he is a good keeper, but so is Artur, and I don't think Boruc will play second fiddle to Frazer so we will still need a reliable back upagain just like last year, .........but looking at how the others in the Prem have been recruiting like mad, considering we have had the greatest exodus since Moses we need to get a move on,......defo need a top top striker, Hernandez is not it..we need a goal machine, look at Everton with Lukaku (that's intent!) 20 mill plus stirker, we going to loose Spider and Victor couldn't pass thread through a needle!.....and if we don't get CB'S and play Yoshida,.........it won't be pretty......
........well he is a good keeper, but so is Artur, and I don't think Boruc will play second fiddle to Frazer so we will still need a reliable back upagain just like last year, .........but looking at how the others in the Prem have been recruiting like mad, considering we have had the greatest exodus since Moses we need to get a move on,......defo need a top top striker, Hernandez is not it..we need a goal machine, look at Everton with Lukaku (that's intent!) 20 mill plus stirker, we going to loose Spider and Victor couldn't pass thread through a needle!.....and if we don't get CB'S and play Yoshida,.........it won't be pretty...... poshdave
  • Score: -2

11:48am Sun 10 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
Hey j7 everyone knows you can't walk the walk now son.your yellow.
I have asked to meet up with you before the Newcastle game and you have not given me an answer.scared? You can bring jls your boyfriend along.you call people names on here and haven't even got the balls to say it to their face,some man you are.
Yeah but, no but, yeah but, no but........be quiet B!TCH
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Hey j7 everyone knows you can't walk the walk now son.your yellow. I have asked to meet up with you before the Newcastle game and you have not given me an answer.scared? You can bring jls your boyfriend along.you call people names on here and haven't even got the balls to say it to their face,some man you are.[/p][/quote]Yeah but, no but, yeah but, no but........be quiet B!TCH J7junctionseven
  • Score: 0

11:52am Sun 10 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

SNUGGLES 78 wrote:
saints ambition left with maurie and nici boy ,downhill from here .
Sorry Les don't understand that cryptic message, are you saying that the new guys are better than the old ones, who are now going into meltdown, can't say as I don't know where NC has gone, but Poch at Spurs, yes, you are probably correct.
[quote][p][bold]SNUGGLES 78[/bold] wrote: saints ambition left with maurie and nici boy ,downhill from here .[/p][/quote]Sorry Les don't understand that cryptic message, are you saying that the new guys are better than the old ones, who are now going into meltdown, can't say as I don't know where NC has gone, but Poch at Spurs, yes, you are probably correct. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

11:56am Sun 10 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

fascia123 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Bazultra wrote:
Tony in Liberia wrote:
So, would those who said the board would not be spending any more money, that hey are asset-stripping and about to nob off into the sunset with all the transfer kitty, now please come back on here and acknowledge that they were wrong?

If KL had wanted to keep all that dosh, why would she have allowed 10 million to be spent on a position where AB could have held the fort until a buyer was found for the club. You can argue all you like about whether 10 million is a fair price or not, but you cannot argue that spending it isn't a clear statement of intent to improve the squad and remain competitive.

Also, to all those who said why didn't we buy him seeks ago, Celtic made it quite clear that they wouldn't sell him while they were still in the Champion's League, and who can blame them since getting through the qualifiers is about all there is to actually play for, since they'll win everything else by default. When they went out the deal became live, and now he's ours.

And to those who point out that Celtic are back in the CL, perhaps this (along with RK saying that Morgan is not going to be sold no matter how far away from the pram he manages to get his toys) can be seen as proof that the board are prepared to play hardball when they feel they have a reasonable chance of winning!

Great buy, welcome to the club, and now let's get going on the new season! COYR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!







!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im not going to acknowledge I was wrong at all as nobody knows just yet. We sold the spine of our team Lovren, Lallana and Lambert before we even had any replacements. This in itself was bad business. You dont sell your car or give up a job until you have a new one Yes we have made additions to the squad now but at quite a low cost with the exception of Forster. As someone said in another post he plays in the SPL and could be found out in the premier league. With that said 10 mill seems alot. I dobt agree with everything the board has done but I will remain optimistic for now and I dont for one minute think we will be fighting a relegation battle. Having saud that Im a realist and dont think we will emulate are finish of 8th last season!
The analogy of selling your car and giving up your job surely doesn't apply this surely was more like being made redundant and having your car repossessed because you have run out of money.
Apart from the board said several times we didn't need to sell, are you saying they lied? The whole of Staplewood development is allowed to be financed outside of football income under the FFP rules so our only qualifying debt was £20m. So he was right, we should have signed before we sold.
Were we ever in the position to make that decision?

We had players kissing the badge one minute and forcing a transfer the next.

From what I have seen we have had more incoming transfer activity than in any other year, I presume you will accept it is far harder to recruit players than it is to stop players who have made up their minds to leave whatever their reason?

If it's so easy to run a club I am sure we would have every Tom dick and Harry doing it, Man Utd I suppose would be in recent years anyway the bench mark and look what happened to them last year.

Some people are never satisfied.
I totally agree it's easier to sell than buy, look at the Lambert deal. Ralph got a phone call on the Thursday, just after his TV interview, and the deal was completed on the Sunday. Just three days to agree a fee, the player to pass a medical and agree personal terms, amazing really but shows what can be achieved.

All I am saying is that a number of clubs do not let the player go until his replacement is signed. Shaw signed for Man U on a Thursday, on the Friday Buttner was gone to Moscow or wherever. I suppose they were just dotting i's and crossing t's just incase the Shaw deal collapsed they were not going to leave themselves light.
Sorry think you got the brunt of my frustration at some of the thoughtless posts, did you go yesterday, if so what did you think?
No worries.

No I didn't go but I don't think I've ever been to a pre season friendly so nothing sinister in that.

Apart from watching the Sky game an Anfield my first live game will probably be West Ham away and certainly Newcastle at home.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazultra[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: So, would those who said the board would not be spending any more money, that hey are asset-stripping and about to nob off into the sunset with all the transfer kitty, now please come back on here and acknowledge that they were wrong? If KL had wanted to keep all that dosh, why would she have allowed 10 million to be spent on a position where AB could have held the fort until a buyer was found for the club. You can argue all you like about whether 10 million is a fair price or not, but you cannot argue that spending it isn't a clear statement of intent to improve the squad and remain competitive. Also, to all those who said why didn't we buy him seeks ago, Celtic made it quite clear that they wouldn't sell him while they were still in the Champion's League, and who can blame them since getting through the qualifiers is about all there is to actually play for, since they'll win everything else by default. When they went out the deal became live, and now he's ours. And to those who point out that Celtic are back in the CL, perhaps this (along with RK saying that Morgan is not going to be sold no matter how far away from the pram he manages to get his toys) can be seen as proof that the board are prepared to play hardball when they feel they have a reasonable chance of winning! Great buy, welcome to the club, and now let's get going on the new season! COYR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Im not going to acknowledge I was wrong at all as nobody knows just yet. We sold the spine of our team Lovren, Lallana and Lambert before we even had any replacements. This in itself was bad business. You dont sell your car or give up a job until you have a new one Yes we have made additions to the squad now but at quite a low cost with the exception of Forster. As someone said in another post he plays in the SPL and could be found out in the premier league. With that said 10 mill seems alot. I dobt agree with everything the board has done but I will remain optimistic for now and I dont for one minute think we will be fighting a relegation battle. Having saud that Im a realist and dont think we will emulate are finish of 8th last season![/p][/quote]The analogy of selling your car and giving up your job surely doesn't apply this surely was more like being made redundant and having your car repossessed because you have run out of money.[/p][/quote]Apart from the board said several times we didn't need to sell, are you saying they lied? The whole of Staplewood development is allowed to be financed outside of football income under the FFP rules so our only qualifying debt was £20m. So he was right, we should have signed before we sold.[/p][/quote]Were we ever in the position to make that decision? We had players kissing the badge one minute and forcing a transfer the next. From what I have seen we have had more incoming transfer activity than in any other year, I presume you will accept it is far harder to recruit players than it is to stop players who have made up their minds to leave whatever their reason? If it's so easy to run a club I am sure we would have every Tom dick and Harry doing it, Man Utd I suppose would be in recent years anyway the bench mark and look what happened to them last year. Some people are never satisfied.[/p][/quote]I totally agree it's easier to sell than buy, look at the Lambert deal. Ralph got a phone call on the Thursday, just after his TV interview, and the deal was completed on the Sunday. Just three days to agree a fee, the player to pass a medical and agree personal terms, amazing really but shows what can be achieved. All I am saying is that a number of clubs do not let the player go until his replacement is signed. Shaw signed for Man U on a Thursday, on the Friday Buttner was gone to Moscow or wherever. I suppose they were just dotting i's and crossing t's just incase the Shaw deal collapsed they were not going to leave themselves light.[/p][/quote]Sorry think you got the brunt of my frustration at some of the thoughtless posts, did you go yesterday, if so what did you think?[/p][/quote]No worries. No I didn't go but I don't think I've ever been to a pre season friendly so nothing sinister in that. Apart from watching the Sky game an Anfield my first live game will probably be West Ham away and certainly Newcastle at home. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 1

11:57am Sun 10 Aug 14

redandy10 says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
If sammy2 sheds is a wum, then he is one of the best I have ever seen, he only has to cast his line and you usual suspects take the bait every time.
Always, without fail, gets a reaction.
I reckon 30% of this thread has been taken up with sammy and his followers, they are probably checking in every 5 mins to see if he has posted something for them to get their teeth into.
S2S.... wumking 2014.
It's like he's visiting a zoo and rattling the cages of the bored inhabitants, trying and succeeding in antagonising them. They await his visits with great anticipation, panting and tails wagging, to fling some insult at him. The insult always seems to be water off a duck's back for him as he always comes back when he needs further amusing.
Wumming is psychological warfare,designed to feed the ego of the perpetrator, whilst unsettling the opponents.One in the Crowd/Search for the Truth,is a prime example.The best and most simple defence,is to ignore,thus dousing the flames of ego..no one pours petrol on a fire,to put it out.
Exactly!
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: If sammy2 sheds is a wum, then he is one of the best I have ever seen, he only has to cast his line and you usual suspects take the bait every time. Always, without fail, gets a reaction. I reckon 30% of this thread has been taken up with sammy and his followers, they are probably checking in every 5 mins to see if he has posted something for them to get their teeth into. S2S.... wumking 2014.[/p][/quote]It's like he's visiting a zoo and rattling the cages of the bored inhabitants, trying and succeeding in antagonising them. They await his visits with great anticipation, panting and tails wagging, to fling some insult at him. The insult always seems to be water off a duck's back for him as he always comes back when he needs further amusing.[/p][/quote]Wumming is psychological warfare,designed to feed the ego of the perpetrator, whilst unsettling the opponents.One in the Crowd/Search for the Truth,is a prime example.The best and most simple defence,is to ignore,thus dousing the flames of ego..no one pours petrol on a fire,to put it out.[/p][/quote]Exactly! redandy10
  • Score: 1

12:00pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Chapperall says...

SnapperSaint wrote:
Chapperall wrote:
This is a good investment as he will be the no 1 English keeper for years to come. He is great in the area and an excellent shot stopper, Arthur is a great shot stopper but not commanding in the air.
Great we have this transfer done and now on to a CB and a striker to form a partnership with Pele until Jay is fully fit.
The two full backs looked good yesterday and we won't miss Chambers or Shaw at all.
Just read that the money has already gone to Shaws head 3 in the bed romps etc. I predict he career will take a nose dive and could become another Rodwell. Tailking about Rodwell I read his article with interest yesterday when he said going to City to be a bench warmer was the wrong decision for his career. Read on Chambers, lambert and Lallana, as their England careers are over!
Now on to next week. I predict a draw which is a good start, with a tadic scoring the goal!
Would be so ironic if Bertrand over took Shaw for the England LB slot...
Ironic but distinctly possible
[quote][p][bold]SnapperSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: This is a good investment as he will be the no 1 English keeper for years to come. He is great in the area and an excellent shot stopper, Arthur is a great shot stopper but not commanding in the air. Great we have this transfer done and now on to a CB and a striker to form a partnership with Pele until Jay is fully fit. The two full backs looked good yesterday and we won't miss Chambers or Shaw at all. Just read that the money has already gone to Shaws head 3 in the bed romps etc. I predict he career will take a nose dive and could become another Rodwell. Tailking about Rodwell I read his article with interest yesterday when he said going to City to be a bench warmer was the wrong decision for his career. Read on Chambers, lambert and Lallana, as their England careers are over! Now on to next week. I predict a draw which is a good start, with a tadic scoring the goal![/p][/quote]Would be so ironic if Bertrand over took Shaw for the England LB slot...[/p][/quote]Ironic but distinctly possible Chapperall
  • Score: 2

12:00pm Sun 10 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Block 42 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Block 42 wrote:
10million on an spl goalie??fo reals??..after watching pelle yeaterday mans dont fill me with cinfidence..jumps for everything wins nothing and hes slow..why do we keep signingbslow strikers?????????can someone anyone tell me why??we need a sergio kun aguero style striker its so obvious.
So as Guly has gone you feel the need to pick on someone else?
Your kinda dodging my question..I guess u don't know why fair dinkom I guess..its true tho we tend to buy slow strikers and at 8 mill im expecting massive things from pelle..he just seems to have no pace and dosnt win much for a big dude..we need a jay hernandez style player who can breacha d fence but some of u on here seem to know very little bout football and think pelle is better than hernandez...f@@k my old boots
I saw something a bit different yesterday, I saw a centre forward being marked, often by three strong defenders, yet still winning the ball in the air, the fact that we had no one on the right wavelength to take advantage made it look wasteful, but I am sure that will come with more game time. He is supposed be a bit hot tempered but I saw someone getting clattered and no sign of protest or retaliation. Can't compare him with Hernadez that's just idiotic thinking, but I would rather have an honest tryer, playing for the team than an egotistical prima donna that thinks he is too good for us, irrespective of how good he is.
[quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: 10million on an spl goalie??fo reals??..after watching pelle yeaterday mans dont fill me with cinfidence..jumps for everything wins nothing and hes slow..why do we keep signingbslow strikers?????????can someone anyone tell me why??we need a sergio kun aguero style striker its so obvious.[/p][/quote]So as Guly has gone you feel the need to pick on someone else?[/p][/quote]Your kinda dodging my question..I guess u don't know why fair dinkom I guess..its true tho we tend to buy slow strikers and at 8 mill im expecting massive things from pelle..he just seems to have no pace and dosnt win much for a big dude..we need a jay hernandez style player who can breacha d fence but some of u on here seem to know very little bout football and think pelle is better than hernandez...f@@k my old boots[/p][/quote]I saw something a bit different yesterday, I saw a centre forward being marked, often by three strong defenders, yet still winning the ball in the air, the fact that we had no one on the right wavelength to take advantage made it look wasteful, but I am sure that will come with more game time. He is supposed be a bit hot tempered but I saw someone getting clattered and no sign of protest or retaliation. Can't compare him with Hernadez that's just idiotic thinking, but I would rather have an honest tryer, playing for the team than an egotistical prima donna that thinks he is too good for us, irrespective of how good he is. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 5

12:03pm Sun 10 Aug 14

george chivers says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1.

£10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club.

oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?
I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first.

I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.
Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.
Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time.

As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well.

I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1. £10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club. oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?[/p][/quote]I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first. I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.[/p][/quote]Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.[/p][/quote]Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time. As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well. I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans. george chivers
  • Score: 1

12:06pm Sun 10 Aug 14

george chivers says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
george chivers wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1.

£10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club.

oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?
I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first.

I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.
What's ironic,is we were saying it was those three positions needed strengthening end of last season,and with a week to go,we've just got the goalkeeper in!
Yep Fans aren't daft are they!
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1. £10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club. oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?[/p][/quote]I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first. I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.[/p][/quote]What's ironic,is we were saying it was those three positions needed strengthening end of last season,and with a week to go,we've just got the goalkeeper in![/p][/quote]Yep Fans aren't daft are they! george chivers
  • Score: 1

12:13pm Sun 10 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1.

£10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club.

oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?
I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first.

I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.
Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.
Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time.

As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well.

I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.
I don't know where you got the idea in your last sentence from, perhaps you should be more careful about judging people by your own dodgy standards? Have you any evidence, is it instinct or just being mischievous?

Straight question Spider? Stay or Go?
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1. £10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club. oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?[/p][/quote]I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first. I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.[/p][/quote]Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.[/p][/quote]Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time. As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well. I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.[/p][/quote]I don't know where you got the idea in your last sentence from, perhaps you should be more careful about judging people by your own dodgy standards? Have you any evidence, is it instinct or just being mischievous? Straight question Spider? Stay or Go? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

12:16pm Sun 10 Aug 14

george chivers says...

george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1.

£10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club.

oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?
I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first.

I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.
Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.
Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time.

As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well.

I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.
PS well done for being Eric and Ken's paper boy. Kenny Whimshurst was one of my favourite players in the 60's. One paced with a beautiful touch on the ball, always in space. He cheeks puffing out as he ran. Very under rated at the time. Had the ability to beat players and change games. Perpetual motion. Brilliant and I think we got him on a free or very close to a free from Wolves.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1. £10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club. oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?[/p][/quote]I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first. I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.[/p][/quote]Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.[/p][/quote]Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time. As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well. I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.[/p][/quote]PS well done for being Eric and Ken's paper boy. Kenny Whimshurst was one of my favourite players in the 60's. One paced with a beautiful touch on the ball, always in space. He cheeks puffing out as he ran. Very under rated at the time. Had the ability to beat players and change games. Perpetual motion. Brilliant and I think we got him on a free or very close to a free from Wolves. george chivers
  • Score: 0

12:19pm Sun 10 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Block 42 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Block 42 wrote:
10million on an spl goalie??fo reals??..after watching pelle yeaterday mans dont fill me with cinfidence..jumps for everything wins nothing and hes slow..why do we keep signingbslow strikers?????????can someone anyone tell me why??we need a sergio kun aguero style striker its so obvious.
So as Guly has gone you feel the need to pick on someone else?
Your kinda dodging my question..I guess u don't know why fair dinkom I guess..its true tho we tend to buy slow strikers and at 8 mill im expecting massive things from pelle..he just seems to have no pace and dosnt win much for a big dude..we need a jay hernandez style player who can breacha d fence but some of u on here seem to know very little bout football and think pelle is better than hernandez...f@@k my old boots
I saw something a bit different yesterday, I saw a centre forward being marked, often by three strong defenders, yet still winning the ball in the air, the fact that we had no one on the right wavelength to take advantage made it look wasteful, but I am sure that will come with more game time. He is supposed be a bit hot tempered but I saw someone getting clattered and no sign of protest or retaliation. Can't compare him with Hernadez that's just idiotic thinking, but I would rather have an honest tryer, playing for the team than an egotistical prima donna that thinks he is too good for us, irrespective of how good he is.
You watched the same game I went to, I think he would play well with Chicoritito.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: 10million on an spl goalie??fo reals??..after watching pelle yeaterday mans dont fill me with cinfidence..jumps for everything wins nothing and hes slow..why do we keep signingbslow strikers?????????can someone anyone tell me why??we need a sergio kun aguero style striker its so obvious.[/p][/quote]So as Guly has gone you feel the need to pick on someone else?[/p][/quote]Your kinda dodging my question..I guess u don't know why fair dinkom I guess..its true tho we tend to buy slow strikers and at 8 mill im expecting massive things from pelle..he just seems to have no pace and dosnt win much for a big dude..we need a jay hernandez style player who can breacha d fence but some of u on here seem to know very little bout football and think pelle is better than hernandez...f@@k my old boots[/p][/quote]I saw something a bit different yesterday, I saw a centre forward being marked, often by three strong defenders, yet still winning the ball in the air, the fact that we had no one on the right wavelength to take advantage made it look wasteful, but I am sure that will come with more game time. He is supposed be a bit hot tempered but I saw someone getting clattered and no sign of protest or retaliation. Can't compare him with Hernadez that's just idiotic thinking, but I would rather have an honest tryer, playing for the team than an egotistical prima donna that thinks he is too good for us, irrespective of how good he is.[/p][/quote]You watched the same game I went to, I think he would play well with Chicoritito. fascia123
  • Score: 4

12:24pm Sun 10 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

george chivers wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1.

£10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club.

oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?
I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first.

I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.
Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.
Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time.

As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well.

I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.
PS well done for being Eric and Ken's paper boy. Kenny Whimshurst was one of my favourite players in the 60's. One paced with a beautiful touch on the ball, always in space. He cheeks puffing out as he ran. Very under rated at the time. Had the ability to beat players and change games. Perpetual motion. Brilliant and I think we got him on a free or very close to a free from Wolves.
I don't think the house belongs to the Club anymore, it looks a bit windswept and interesting now, a couple of blue plaques wouldn't go amiss!
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1. £10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club. oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?[/p][/quote]I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first. I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.[/p][/quote]Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.[/p][/quote]Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time. As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well. I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.[/p][/quote]PS well done for being Eric and Ken's paper boy. Kenny Whimshurst was one of my favourite players in the 60's. One paced with a beautiful touch on the ball, always in space. He cheeks puffing out as he ran. Very under rated at the time. Had the ability to beat players and change games. Perpetual motion. Brilliant and I think we got him on a free or very close to a free from Wolves.[/p][/quote]I don't think the house belongs to the Club anymore, it looks a bit windswept and interesting now, a couple of blue plaques wouldn't go amiss! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

12:36pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Block 42 says...

fascia123 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Block 42 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Block 42 wrote:
10million on an spl goalie??fo reals??..after watching pelle yeaterday mans dont fill me with cinfidence..jumps for everything wins nothing and hes slow..why do we keep signingbslow strikers?????????can someone anyone tell me why??we need a sergio kun aguero style striker its so obvious.
So as Guly has gone you feel the need to pick on someone else?
Your kinda dodging my question..I guess u don't know why fair dinkom I guess..its true tho we tend to buy slow strikers and at 8 mill im expecting massive things from pelle..he just seems to have no pace and dosnt win much for a big dude..we need a jay hernandez style player who can breacha d fence but some of u on here seem to know very little bout football and think pelle is better than hernandez...f@@k my old boots
I saw something a bit different yesterday, I saw a centre forward being marked, often by three strong defenders, yet still winning the ball in the air, the fact that we had no one on the right wavelength to take advantage made it look wasteful, but I am sure that will come with more game time. He is supposed be a bit hot tempered but I saw someone getting clattered and no sign of protest or retaliation. Can't compare him with Hernadez that's just idiotic thinking, but I would rather have an honest tryer, playing for the team than an egotistical prima donna that thinks he is too good for us, irrespective of how good he is.
You watched the same game I went to, I think he would play well with Chicoritito.
Did pelle win amything in the air??must of missed that...why u saying hernandez is egotistical??hes not..what he is is a proven gol scorer in the epl...I think he may bring out best in pelle and vise versa and jay rod is a mix of the two.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: 10million on an spl goalie??fo reals??..after watching pelle yeaterday mans dont fill me with cinfidence..jumps for everything wins nothing and hes slow..why do we keep signingbslow strikers?????????can someone anyone tell me why??we need a sergio kun aguero style striker its so obvious.[/p][/quote]So as Guly has gone you feel the need to pick on someone else?[/p][/quote]Your kinda dodging my question..I guess u don't know why fair dinkom I guess..its true tho we tend to buy slow strikers and at 8 mill im expecting massive things from pelle..he just seems to have no pace and dosnt win much for a big dude..we need a jay hernandez style player who can breacha d fence but some of u on here seem to know very little bout football and think pelle is better than hernandez...f@@k my old boots[/p][/quote]I saw something a bit different yesterday, I saw a centre forward being marked, often by three strong defenders, yet still winning the ball in the air, the fact that we had no one on the right wavelength to take advantage made it look wasteful, but I am sure that will come with more game time. He is supposed be a bit hot tempered but I saw someone getting clattered and no sign of protest or retaliation. Can't compare him with Hernadez that's just idiotic thinking, but I would rather have an honest tryer, playing for the team than an egotistical prima donna that thinks he is too good for us, irrespective of how good he is.[/p][/quote]You watched the same game I went to, I think he would play well with Chicoritito.[/p][/quote]Did pelle win amything in the air??must of missed that...why u saying hernandez is egotistical??hes not..what he is is a proven gol scorer in the epl...I think he may bring out best in pelle and vise versa and jay rod is a mix of the two. Block 42
  • Score: 1

12:49pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

george chivers wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1.

£10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club.

oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?
I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first.

I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.
Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.
Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time.

As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well.

I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.
PS well done for being Eric and Ken's paper boy. Kenny Whimshurst was one of my favourite players in the 60's. One paced with a beautiful touch on the ball, always in space. He cheeks puffing out as he ran. Very under rated at the time. Had the ability to beat players and change games. Perpetual motion. Brilliant and I think we got him on a free or very close to a free from Wolves.
I'll second that. Ken Winshurst had class. Somebody mentioned Campbell Forsyth yesterday. A great keeper, and his career-ending injury came from such an innocuous challenge. Against Liverpool, if I remember correctly.

Thinking of other players from the distant past, I reckon George O'Brien might have solved our current goal-poaching weakness.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1. £10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club. oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?[/p][/quote]I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first. I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.[/p][/quote]Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.[/p][/quote]Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time. As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well. I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.[/p][/quote]PS well done for being Eric and Ken's paper boy. Kenny Whimshurst was one of my favourite players in the 60's. One paced with a beautiful touch on the ball, always in space. He cheeks puffing out as he ran. Very under rated at the time. Had the ability to beat players and change games. Perpetual motion. Brilliant and I think we got him on a free or very close to a free from Wolves.[/p][/quote]I'll second that. Ken Winshurst had class. Somebody mentioned Campbell Forsyth yesterday. A great keeper, and his career-ending injury came from such an innocuous challenge. Against Liverpool, if I remember correctly. Thinking of other players from the distant past, I reckon George O'Brien might have solved our current goal-poaching weakness. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

12:52pm Sun 10 Aug 14

george chivers says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1.

£10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club.

oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?
I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first.

I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.
Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.
Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time.

As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well.

I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.
I don't know where you got the idea in your last sentence from, perhaps you should be more careful about judging people by your own dodgy standards? Have you any evidence, is it instinct or just being mischievous?

Straight question Spider? Stay or Go?
Nothing dodgy about my standards. If you put money into a business as a loan, which she has appears to have done, then if that business generates profits by selling assets I think you are entitled to take the loan back out of the business. Straight forward. Not mischievous. If she hasn't given the club a loan, then she can still take money out as profits or dividends. It's her business. It's up to her. I would just like her to tell us if she does do that. Straight forward. I wouldn't be annoyed if she did. I think all business people are in business to make money. Especially when they wholly own the business. I don't think she has do us any favours if it doesn't help her to make profits. SFC is not owned by the fans. It is owned by her.

Spider. Having been involved in amateur football and semi-pro football in my younger days, I think it is always a mistake to try and keep players who don't want to play for you. RK has put his balls on the line and said Spider can't leave this summer. To back track on that will make him look foolish. If he insists he wants to go, tell him (privately) he can go in January, if he still wants to. We can get a premium price then.

Putting myself in Spider's position I would be very upset to be kept at Saints if I wanted to go after what happened with all the others who have left. I would feel very hard done by. Given his time with the club I don't think he owes us anything. (I don't have the emotional attachment to players that some fans have. I see them all as replaceable cogs in a machine, regardless). But I do have an emotional attachment to the club.

I suspect the club is hanging on to him because they know MP spoke to him before he left for Spurs and that has upset them, given the lengths they went to retain MP.

STID
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1. £10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club. oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?[/p][/quote]I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first. I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.[/p][/quote]Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.[/p][/quote]Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time. As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well. I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.[/p][/quote]I don't know where you got the idea in your last sentence from, perhaps you should be more careful about judging people by your own dodgy standards? Have you any evidence, is it instinct or just being mischievous? Straight question Spider? Stay or Go?[/p][/quote]Nothing dodgy about my standards. If you put money into a business as a loan, which she has appears to have done, then if that business generates profits by selling assets I think you are entitled to take the loan back out of the business. Straight forward. Not mischievous. If she hasn't given the club a loan, then she can still take money out as profits or dividends. It's her business. It's up to her. I would just like her to tell us if she does do that. Straight forward. I wouldn't be annoyed if she did. I think all business people are in business to make money. Especially when they wholly own the business. I don't think she has do us any favours if it doesn't help her to make profits. SFC is not owned by the fans. It is owned by her. Spider. Having been involved in amateur football and semi-pro football in my younger days, I think it is always a mistake to try and keep players who don't want to play for you. RK has put his balls on the line and said Spider can't leave this summer. To back track on that will make him look foolish. If he insists he wants to go, tell him (privately) he can go in January, if he still wants to. We can get a premium price then. Putting myself in Spider's position I would be very upset to be kept at Saints if I wanted to go after what happened with all the others who have left. I would feel very hard done by. Given his time with the club I don't think he owes us anything. (I don't have the emotional attachment to players that some fans have. I see them all as replaceable cogs in a machine, regardless). But I do have an emotional attachment to the club. I suspect the club is hanging on to him because they know MP spoke to him before he left for Spurs and that has upset them, given the lengths they went to retain MP. STID george chivers
  • Score: 4

12:55pm Sun 10 Aug 14

george chivers says...

Rising_Son wrote:
george chivers wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1.

£10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club.

oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?
I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first.

I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.
Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.
Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time.

As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well.

I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.
PS well done for being Eric and Ken's paper boy. Kenny Whimshurst was one of my favourite players in the 60's. One paced with a beautiful touch on the ball, always in space. He cheeks puffing out as he ran. Very under rated at the time. Had the ability to beat players and change games. Perpetual motion. Brilliant and I think we got him on a free or very close to a free from Wolves.
I'll second that. Ken Winshurst had class. Somebody mentioned Campbell Forsyth yesterday. A great keeper, and his career-ending injury came from such an innocuous challenge. Against Liverpool, if I remember correctly.

Thinking of other players from the distant past, I reckon George O'Brien might have solved our current goal-poaching weakness.
That's where the George in George Chivers comes from. Great player, another favourite of mine.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1. £10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club. oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?[/p][/quote]I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first. I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.[/p][/quote]Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.[/p][/quote]Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time. As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well. I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.[/p][/quote]PS well done for being Eric and Ken's paper boy. Kenny Whimshurst was one of my favourite players in the 60's. One paced with a beautiful touch on the ball, always in space. He cheeks puffing out as he ran. Very under rated at the time. Had the ability to beat players and change games. Perpetual motion. Brilliant and I think we got him on a free or very close to a free from Wolves.[/p][/quote]I'll second that. Ken Winshurst had class. Somebody mentioned Campbell Forsyth yesterday. A great keeper, and his career-ending injury came from such an innocuous challenge. Against Liverpool, if I remember correctly. Thinking of other players from the distant past, I reckon George O'Brien might have solved our current goal-poaching weakness.[/p][/quote]That's where the George in George Chivers comes from. Great player, another favourite of mine. george chivers
  • Score: 1

1:02pm Sun 10 Aug 14

up saints says...

big signing and much needed as we were poor when borch was injured.if we can get a good striker in before next sunday that will do me.intresting week to come with spider saga going on think he may of played his last game in a saints shirt but hope iam proved wrong.
big signing and much needed as we were poor when borch was injured.if we can get a good striker in before next sunday that will do me.intresting week to come with spider saga going on think he may of played his last game in a saints shirt but hope iam proved wrong. up saints
  • Score: 1

1:08pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Mush On The Beach says...

Thanks everyone for all the feedback on yesterday’s game, I hope you enjoyed it. We are certainly still lacking up front and in the centre back positions for strength going into the season. I hate to be the one that kills Bambi so to speak, but I’m afraid I don’t see appointing Jose Fonte as the captain as a great decision. I see it more as the best thing in a bad situation.
I’m just trying to be honest, I thought last season we could improve the team this season by bringing in a better player to put him on the bench as back-up.
I guess it is what is now that we have lost Lovren and we all need to get behind our team ..... COYR!
Thanks everyone for all the feedback on yesterday’s game, I hope you enjoyed it. We are certainly still lacking up front and in the centre back positions for strength going into the season. I hate to be the one that kills Bambi so to speak, but I’m afraid I don’t see appointing Jose Fonte as the captain as a great decision. I see it more as the best thing in a bad situation. I’m just trying to be honest, I thought last season we could improve the team this season by bringing in a better player to put him on the bench as back-up. I guess it is what is now that we have lost Lovren and we all need to get behind our team ..... COYR! Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 3

1:12pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Mush On The Beach says...

Welcome to the Saints family Fraser Forster, I think this is a shrewd signing and with his previous connections with our new goalie training staff it sits well with me. The price seems large but there you go.
Horse 101, I like to defer my curiosity to your more patient research attributes ..... Who are the top 5 most expensive GK signings in the prem? I would throw in De Gea for starters and also what happened to the so called next big thing Butland from Brum.... buyer beware.
Welcome to the Saints family Fraser Forster, I think this is a shrewd signing and with his previous connections with our new goalie training staff it sits well with me. The price seems large but there you go. Horse 101, I like to defer my curiosity to your more patient research attributes ..... Who are the top 5 most expensive GK signings in the prem? I would throw in De Gea for starters and also what happened to the so called next big thing Butland from Brum.... buyer beware. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 1

1:35pm Sun 10 Aug 14

St. Case says...

Dgginger wrote:
This signing shows what a mess the club is in at the moment, hopefully long term he does well for us but....

He's never worth ten million

Why have we waited so long to get it done ? He could have got injured in the dead rubber in the Champions League the other night ...maybe there is a reason but to buy a new goalkeeper and not even give him a chance to play in a friendly is utter stupidity we could have bought him two days ago, or better still two months ago.

Now everyone knows we have all the money in the world ...they are going to hold out aren't they...

I don't watch Scottiish football but I wonder how good he is at Celtic he must get some very easy games he'll certainly be busier playing for us that's for sure, especially if we don't buy some defenders.

As it stands we must pray that Koeman is right about Tadic and Pelle because if he's not we are in danger they've never played in the Premier League remember one of my biggest fear is that they play well in the first few weeks and then fade ...fingers crossed they are good enough.

Maybe we will be in better shape come September the first but we are certainly not in a good place right now.....and I don't see how we can win the argument with Schnederlin unless he changes his mind.

Hopefully we have so much money we can't fail to get in some quality in but, my goodness, we are making a drama out of it....
Did you get all this rubbish from the top of your head, or the other end?
[quote][p][bold]Dgginger[/bold] wrote: This signing shows what a mess the club is in at the moment, hopefully long term he does well for us but.... He's never worth ten million Why have we waited so long to get it done ? He could have got injured in the dead rubber in the Champions League the other night ...maybe there is a reason but to buy a new goalkeeper and not even give him a chance to play in a friendly is utter stupidity we could have bought him two days ago, or better still two months ago. Now everyone knows we have all the money in the world ...they are going to hold out aren't they... I don't watch Scottiish football but I wonder how good he is at Celtic he must get some very easy games he'll certainly be busier playing for us that's for sure, especially if we don't buy some defenders. As it stands we must pray that Koeman is right about Tadic and Pelle because if he's not we are in danger they've never played in the Premier League remember one of my biggest fear is that they play well in the first few weeks and then fade ...fingers crossed they are good enough. Maybe we will be in better shape come September the first but we are certainly not in a good place right now.....and I don't see how we can win the argument with Schnederlin unless he changes his mind. Hopefully we have so much money we can't fail to get in some quality in but, my goodness, we are making a drama out of it....[/p][/quote]Did you get all this rubbish from the top of your head, or the other end? St. Case
  • Score: 1

1:47pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

So, who starts against Liverhampton, Fraser or Artur?

For me it's Artur. He hasn't done anything to lose his place and if benched he might want out which sort of defeats having brought in another top goalie. Fraser will get his chance and then it's over to him to keep the shirt. Like when Chambers replaced the injured Clyne and then kept him out.
So, who starts against Liverhampton, Fraser or Artur? For me it's Artur. He hasn't done anything to lose his place and if benched he might want out which sort of defeats having brought in another top goalie. Fraser will get his chance and then it's over to him to keep the shirt. Like when Chambers replaced the injured Clyne and then kept him out. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 3

1:50pm Sun 10 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

george chivers wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
george chivers wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1.

£10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club.

oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?
I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first.

I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.
Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.
Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time.

As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well.

I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.
PS well done for being Eric and Ken's paper boy. Kenny Whimshurst was one of my favourite players in the 60's. One paced with a beautiful touch on the ball, always in space. He cheeks puffing out as he ran. Very under rated at the time. Had the ability to beat players and change games. Perpetual motion. Brilliant and I think we got him on a free or very close to a free from Wolves.
I'll second that. Ken Winshurst had class. Somebody mentioned Campbell Forsyth yesterday. A great keeper, and his career-ending injury came from such an innocuous challenge. Against Liverpool, if I remember correctly.

Thinking of other players from the distant past, I reckon George O'Brien might have solved our current goal-poaching weakness.
That's where the George in George Chivers comes from. Great player, another favourite of mine.
Then came Charlie!
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1. £10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club. oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?[/p][/quote]I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first. I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.[/p][/quote]Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.[/p][/quote]Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time. As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well. I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.[/p][/quote]PS well done for being Eric and Ken's paper boy. Kenny Whimshurst was one of my favourite players in the 60's. One paced with a beautiful touch on the ball, always in space. He cheeks puffing out as he ran. Very under rated at the time. Had the ability to beat players and change games. Perpetual motion. Brilliant and I think we got him on a free or very close to a free from Wolves.[/p][/quote]I'll second that. Ken Winshurst had class. Somebody mentioned Campbell Forsyth yesterday. A great keeper, and his career-ending injury came from such an innocuous challenge. Against Liverpool, if I remember correctly. Thinking of other players from the distant past, I reckon George O'Brien might have solved our current goal-poaching weakness.[/p][/quote]That's where the George in George Chivers comes from. Great player, another favourite of mine.[/p][/quote]Then came Charlie! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

1:51pm Sun 10 Aug 14

scorpioeyes says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
£10 million spent on a TOP keeper who is 3rd choice for a country rated 1 place below Bosnia in the latest FIFA rankings. Who spent most of last season watching the ball through binoculars, as his forwards piled on the goals against teams of pub league standard. But who has conceded SIX goals in his last TWO games against a side of League 2 standard. TOP!!
spot-on. nothing wrong with artur,in my opinion. am still convinced fatgirl will sell as soon as she can.
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: £10 million spent on a TOP keeper who is 3rd choice for a country rated 1 place below Bosnia in the latest FIFA rankings. Who spent most of last season watching the ball through binoculars, as his forwards piled on the goals against teams of pub league standard. But who has conceded SIX goals in his last TWO games against a side of League 2 standard. TOP!![/p][/quote]spot-on. nothing wrong with artur,in my opinion. am still convinced fatgirl will sell as soon as she can. scorpioeyes
  • Score: -12

1:54pm Sun 10 Aug 14

warrens 76 says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Hey j7 everyone knows you can't walk the walk now son.your yellow.
I have asked to meet up with you before the Newcastle game and you have not given me an answer.scared? You can bring jls your boyfriend along.you call people names on here and haven't even got the balls to say it to their face,some man you are.
Yeah but, no but, yeah but, no but........be quiet B!TCH
It does not work..s2s is the real life version of the guy who should be wearing a gimp mask a là pulp fiction..he wants attention, the pain, the how, the why is all irreleavnt he is a very sick puppy.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Hey j7 everyone knows you can't walk the walk now son.your yellow. I have asked to meet up with you before the Newcastle game and you have not given me an answer.scared? You can bring jls your boyfriend along.you call people names on here and haven't even got the balls to say it to their face,some man you are.[/p][/quote]Yeah but, no but, yeah but, no but........be quiet B!TCH[/p][/quote]It does not work..s2s is the real life version of the guy who should be wearing a gimp mask a là pulp fiction..he wants attention, the pain, the how, the why is all irreleavnt he is a very sick puppy. warrens 76
  • Score: 2

1:58pm Sun 10 Aug 14

warrens 76 says...

SNUGGLES 78 wrote:
two more in ,schid and cork to leave ,bottom by xmas.
fcuk of s2s, kent141 , treborer etc etc etc..cnuts.
[quote][p][bold]SNUGGLES 78[/bold] wrote: two more in ,schid and cork to leave ,bottom by xmas.[/p][/quote]fcuk of s2s, kent141 , treborer etc etc etc..cnuts. warrens 76
  • Score: 2

2:02pm Sun 10 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

scorpioeyes wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
£10 million spent on a TOP keeper who is 3rd choice for a country rated 1 place below Bosnia in the latest FIFA rankings. Who spent most of last season watching the ball through binoculars, as his forwards piled on the goals against teams of pub league standard. But who has conceded SIX goals in his last TWO games against a side of League 2 standard. TOP!!
spot-on. nothing wrong with artur,in my opinion. am still convinced fatgirl will sell as soon as she can.
What's your wife selling stuff got to do with anything??
[quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: £10 million spent on a TOP keeper who is 3rd choice for a country rated 1 place below Bosnia in the latest FIFA rankings. Who spent most of last season watching the ball through binoculars, as his forwards piled on the goals against teams of pub league standard. But who has conceded SIX goals in his last TWO games against a side of League 2 standard. TOP!![/p][/quote]spot-on. nothing wrong with artur,in my opinion. am still convinced fatgirl will sell as soon as she can.[/p][/quote]What's your wife selling stuff got to do with anything?? J7junctionseven
  • Score: 1

2:16pm Sun 10 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

FortWorth_Saint wrote:
Somebody on this blog the other day said I had to decide whether I was a neggie or one of the others. What do you call them? Possies?

Anyway, I thought this was going to happen. The Saints also have the current England goalkeeper coach, Dave Watson, so it is quite a move.
You can be neggie or a Happy Clapper, and/or anything in between, no limit and no law that says you cannot change, whichever way the wind is blowing. I prefer positives, but we do need a wake up call when we get too complacent.
[quote][p][bold]FortWorth_Saint[/bold] wrote: Somebody on this blog the other day said I had to decide whether I was a neggie or one of the others. What do you call them? Possies? Anyway, I thought this was going to happen. The Saints also have the current England goalkeeper coach, Dave Watson, so it is quite a move.[/p][/quote]You can be neggie or a Happy Clapper, and/or anything in between, no limit and no law that says you cannot change, whichever way the wind is blowing. I prefer positives, but we do need a wake up call when we get too complacent. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

2:22pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
A few people said yesterday that Florin Gardos is a done deal ?
Could be another position we need filling sorted.
Just a Two Bob story?
I think we may be shilling out for one or two more players before Saturday.
For up-to-date info on that, you'd better ask Hedge End BOB!
[quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: A few people said yesterday that Florin Gardos is a done deal ? Could be another position we need filling sorted.[/p][/quote]Just a Two Bob story?[/p][/quote]I think we may be shilling out for one or two more players before Saturday.[/p][/quote]For up-to-date info on that, you'd better ask Hedge End BOB! Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 1

2:22pm Sun 10 Aug 14

sparky130a says...

Block 42 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Block 42 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Block 42 wrote:
10million on an spl goalie??fo reals??..after watching pelle yeaterday mans dont fill me with cinfidence..jumps for everything wins nothing and hes slow..why do we keep signingbslow strikers?????????can someone anyone tell me why??we need a sergio kun aguero style striker its so obvious.
So as Guly has gone you feel the need to pick on someone else?
Your kinda dodging my question..I guess u don't know why fair dinkom I guess..its true tho we tend to buy slow strikers and at 8 mill im expecting massive things from pelle..he just seems to have no pace and dosnt win much for a big dude..we need a jay hernandez style player who can breacha d fence but some of u on here seem to know very little bout football and think pelle is better than hernandez...f@@k my old boots
I saw something a bit different yesterday, I saw a centre forward being marked, often by three strong defenders, yet still winning the ball in the air, the fact that we had no one on the right wavelength to take advantage made it look wasteful, but I am sure that will come with more game time. He is supposed be a bit hot tempered but I saw someone getting clattered and no sign of protest or retaliation. Can't compare him with Hernadez that's just idiotic thinking, but I would rather have an honest tryer, playing for the team than an egotistical prima donna that thinks he is too good for us, irrespective of how good he is.
You watched the same game I went to, I think he would play well with Chicoritito.
Did pelle win amything in the air??must of missed that...why u saying hernandez is egotistical??hes not..what he is is a proven gol scorer in the epl...I think he may bring out best in pelle and vise versa and jay rod is a mix of the two.
Well he did from where i was sat in the Northam end yesterday...

But a more mobile striker is needed that's for sure.
[quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: 10million on an spl goalie??fo reals??..after watching pelle yeaterday mans dont fill me with cinfidence..jumps for everything wins nothing and hes slow..why do we keep signingbslow strikers?????????can someone anyone tell me why??we need a sergio kun aguero style striker its so obvious.[/p][/quote]So as Guly has gone you feel the need to pick on someone else?[/p][/quote]Your kinda dodging my question..I guess u don't know why fair dinkom I guess..its true tho we tend to buy slow strikers and at 8 mill im expecting massive things from pelle..he just seems to have no pace and dosnt win much for a big dude..we need a jay hernandez style player who can breacha d fence but some of u on here seem to know very little bout football and think pelle is better than hernandez...f@@k my old boots[/p][/quote]I saw something a bit different yesterday, I saw a centre forward being marked, often by three strong defenders, yet still winning the ball in the air, the fact that we had no one on the right wavelength to take advantage made it look wasteful, but I am sure that will come with more game time. He is supposed be a bit hot tempered but I saw someone getting clattered and no sign of protest or retaliation. Can't compare him with Hernadez that's just idiotic thinking, but I would rather have an honest tryer, playing for the team than an egotistical prima donna that thinks he is too good for us, irrespective of how good he is.[/p][/quote]You watched the same game I went to, I think he would play well with Chicoritito.[/p][/quote]Did pelle win amything in the air??must of missed that...why u saying hernandez is egotistical??hes not..what he is is a proven gol scorer in the epl...I think he may bring out best in pelle and vise versa and jay rod is a mix of the two.[/p][/quote]Well he did from where i was sat in the Northam end yesterday... But a more mobile striker is needed that's for sure. sparky130a
  • Score: 0

2:23pm Sun 10 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1.

£10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club.

oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?
I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first.

I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.
Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.
Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time.

As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well.

I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.
I don't know where you got the idea in your last sentence from, perhaps you should be more careful about judging people by your own dodgy standards? Have you any evidence, is it instinct or just being mischievous?

Straight question Spider? Stay or Go?
Nothing dodgy about my standards. If you put money into a business as a loan, which she has appears to have done, then if that business generates profits by selling assets I think you are entitled to take the loan back out of the business. Straight forward. Not mischievous. If she hasn't given the club a loan, then she can still take money out as profits or dividends. It's her business. It's up to her. I would just like her to tell us if she does do that. Straight forward. I wouldn't be annoyed if she did. I think all business people are in business to make money. Especially when they wholly own the business. I don't think she has do us any favours if it doesn't help her to make profits. SFC is not owned by the fans. It is owned by her.

Spider. Having been involved in amateur football and semi-pro football in my younger days, I think it is always a mistake to try and keep players who don't want to play for you. RK has put his balls on the line and said Spider can't leave this summer. To back track on that will make him look foolish. If he insists he wants to go, tell him (privately) he can go in January, if he still wants to. We can get a premium price then.

Putting myself in Spider's position I would be very upset to be kept at Saints if I wanted to go after what happened with all the others who have left. I would feel very hard done by. Given his time with the club I don't think he owes us anything. (I don't have the emotional attachment to players that some fans have. I see them all as replaceable cogs in a machine, regardless). But I do have an emotional attachment to the club.

I suspect the club is hanging on to him because they know MP spoke to him before he left for Spurs and that has upset them, given the lengths they went to retain MP.

STID
Lol I expected a simple stay or go response, not a lecture on semantics, I guess I should have included a don't know option? As for business affairs I haven't a clue. I just ask that we get a fair and legal deal in anything that happens, nothing is for ever, but how it will work out is beyond my remit.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1. £10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club. oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?[/p][/quote]I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first. I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.[/p][/quote]Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.[/p][/quote]Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time. As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well. I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.[/p][/quote]I don't know where you got the idea in your last sentence from, perhaps you should be more careful about judging people by your own dodgy standards? Have you any evidence, is it instinct or just being mischievous? Straight question Spider? Stay or Go?[/p][/quote]Nothing dodgy about my standards. If you put money into a business as a loan, which she has appears to have done, then if that business generates profits by selling assets I think you are entitled to take the loan back out of the business. Straight forward. Not mischievous. If she hasn't given the club a loan, then she can still take money out as profits or dividends. It's her business. It's up to her. I would just like her to tell us if she does do that. Straight forward. I wouldn't be annoyed if she did. I think all business people are in business to make money. Especially when they wholly own the business. I don't think she has do us any favours if it doesn't help her to make profits. SFC is not owned by the fans. It is owned by her. Spider. Having been involved in amateur football and semi-pro football in my younger days, I think it is always a mistake to try and keep players who don't want to play for you. RK has put his balls on the line and said Spider can't leave this summer. To back track on that will make him look foolish. If he insists he wants to go, tell him (privately) he can go in January, if he still wants to. We can get a premium price then. Putting myself in Spider's position I would be very upset to be kept at Saints if I wanted to go after what happened with all the others who have left. I would feel very hard done by. Given his time with the club I don't think he owes us anything. (I don't have the emotional attachment to players that some fans have. I see them all as replaceable cogs in a machine, regardless). But I do have an emotional attachment to the club. I suspect the club is hanging on to him because they know MP spoke to him before he left for Spurs and that has upset them, given the lengths they went to retain MP. STID[/p][/quote]Lol I expected a simple stay or go response, not a lecture on semantics, I guess I should have included a don't know option? As for business affairs I haven't a clue. I just ask that we get a fair and legal deal in anything that happens, nothing is for ever, but how it will work out is beyond my remit. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

2:25pm Sun 10 Aug 14

miltonarcher says...

I see RonK is at Anfield for the friendly. Note, the scousers are using oh when the reds go marching in, talk about rubbing it in.
I see RonK is at Anfield for the friendly. Note, the scousers are using oh when the reds go marching in, talk about rubbing it in. miltonarcher
  • Score: 0

2:30pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
So, who starts against Liverhampton, Fraser or Artur?

For me it's Artur. He hasn't done anything to lose his place and if benched he might want out which sort of defeats having brought in another top goalie. Fraser will get his chance and then it's over to him to keep the shirt. Like when Chambers replaced the injured Clyne and then kept him out.
I agree, Seed. I'm a firm believer that players should earn the right to get selected, but that's not what is suggested in the third paragraph of the article above.

Whoever is picked will get my support and I hope he has a blinder - including saving two penalties; one from little Stevie after Sturridge takes a Suerezesque dive, the other from Rickie after Adam is cut into two by Victor.

Oh, and Jose to score the winner, of course.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: So, who starts against Liverhampton, Fraser or Artur? For me it's Artur. He hasn't done anything to lose his place and if benched he might want out which sort of defeats having brought in another top goalie. Fraser will get his chance and then it's over to him to keep the shirt. Like when Chambers replaced the injured Clyne and then kept him out.[/p][/quote]I agree, Seed. I'm a firm believer that players should earn the right to get selected, but that's not what is suggested in the third paragraph of the article above. Whoever is picked will get my support and I hope he has a blinder - including saving two penalties; one from little Stevie after Sturridge takes a Suerezesque dive, the other from Rickie after Adam is cut into two by Victor. Oh, and Jose to score the winner, of course. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 1

2:34pm Sun 10 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Block 42 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Block 42 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Block 42 wrote:
10million on an spl goalie??fo reals??..after watching pelle yeaterday mans dont fill me with cinfidence..jumps for everything wins nothing and hes slow..why do we keep signingbslow strikers?????????can someone anyone tell me why??we need a sergio kun aguero style striker its so obvious.
So as Guly has gone you feel the need to pick on someone else?
Your kinda dodging my question..I guess u don't know why fair dinkom I guess..its true tho we tend to buy slow strikers and at 8 mill im expecting massive things from pelle..he just seems to have no pace and dosnt win much for a big dude..we need a jay hernandez style player who can breacha d fence but some of u on here seem to know very little bout football and think pelle is better than hernandez...f@@k my old boots
I saw something a bit different yesterday, I saw a centre forward being marked, often by three strong defenders, yet still winning the ball in the air, the fact that we had no one on the right wavelength to take advantage made it look wasteful, but I am sure that will come with more game time. He is supposed be a bit hot tempered but I saw someone getting clattered and no sign of protest or retaliation. Can't compare him with Hernadez that's just idiotic thinking, but I would rather have an honest tryer, playing for the team than an egotistical prima donna that thinks he is too good for us, irrespective of how good he is.
You watched the same game I went to, I think he would play well with Chicoritito.
Did pelle win amything in the air??must of missed that...why u saying hernandez is egotistical??hes not..what he is is a proven gol scorer in the epl...I think he may bring out best in pelle and vise versa and jay rod is a mix of the two.
I just asked the question of the two guys I went with and they say the same he won plenty but didn't have anyone working off him, also that he at times was up agains two or three defenders.

Did you go yesterday?
[quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: 10million on an spl goalie??fo reals??..after watching pelle yeaterday mans dont fill me with cinfidence..jumps for everything wins nothing and hes slow..why do we keep signingbslow strikers?????????can someone anyone tell me why??we need a sergio kun aguero style striker its so obvious.[/p][/quote]So as Guly has gone you feel the need to pick on someone else?[/p][/quote]Your kinda dodging my question..I guess u don't know why fair dinkom I guess..its true tho we tend to buy slow strikers and at 8 mill im expecting massive things from pelle..he just seems to have no pace and dosnt win much for a big dude..we need a jay hernandez style player who can breacha d fence but some of u on here seem to know very little bout football and think pelle is better than hernandez...f@@k my old boots[/p][/quote]I saw something a bit different yesterday, I saw a centre forward being marked, often by three strong defenders, yet still winning the ball in the air, the fact that we had no one on the right wavelength to take advantage made it look wasteful, but I am sure that will come with more game time. He is supposed be a bit hot tempered but I saw someone getting clattered and no sign of protest or retaliation. Can't compare him with Hernadez that's just idiotic thinking, but I would rather have an honest tryer, playing for the team than an egotistical prima donna that thinks he is too good for us, irrespective of how good he is.[/p][/quote]You watched the same game I went to, I think he would play well with Chicoritito.[/p][/quote]Did pelle win amything in the air??must of missed that...why u saying hernandez is egotistical??hes not..what he is is a proven gol scorer in the epl...I think he may bring out best in pelle and vise versa and jay rod is a mix of the two.[/p][/quote]I just asked the question of the two guys I went with and they say the same he won plenty but didn't have anyone working off him, also that he at times was up agains two or three defenders. Did you go yesterday? fascia123
  • Score: 0

2:39pm Sun 10 Aug 14

InsideOutCat says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
£10 million spent on a TOP keeper who is 3rd choice for a country rated 1 place below Bosnia in the latest FIFA rankings. Who spent most of last season watching the ball through binoculars, as his forwards piled on the goals against teams of pub league standard. But who has conceded SIX goals in his last TWO games against a side of League 2 standard. TOP!!
So still better than the **** poor excuse for a football team which is Portsmouth's eternal reminder of the folly of trying to buy success. Crawl away back to whatever social housing project we're paying for you to inhabit, you vile and loathsome flat fish
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: £10 million spent on a TOP keeper who is 3rd choice for a country rated 1 place below Bosnia in the latest FIFA rankings. Who spent most of last season watching the ball through binoculars, as his forwards piled on the goals against teams of pub league standard. But who has conceded SIX goals in his last TWO games against a side of League 2 standard. TOP!![/p][/quote]So still better than the **** poor excuse for a football team which is Portsmouth's eternal reminder of the folly of trying to buy success. Crawl away back to whatever social housing project we're paying for you to inhabit, you vile and loathsome flat fish InsideOutCat
  • Score: 1

2:49pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
So, who starts against Liverhampton, Fraser or Artur?

For me it's Artur. He hasn't done anything to lose his place and if benched he might want out which sort of defeats having brought in another top goalie. Fraser will get his chance and then it's over to him to keep the shirt. Like when Chambers replaced the injured Clyne and then kept him out.
I agree, Seed. I'm a firm believer that players should earn the right to get selected, but that's not what is suggested in the third paragraph of the article above.

Whoever is picked will get my support and I hope he has a blinder - including saving two penalties; one from little Stevie after Sturridge takes a Suerezesque dive, the other from Rickie after Adam is cut into two by Victor.

Oh, and Jose to score the winner, of course.
I saw that saying he is expected to go straight in. If I was Boruc I'd be miffed at that and fairly so. If we lose Boruc we are back to square one with Kelv and Gazza as the fall backs for injury or suspension.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: So, who starts against Liverhampton, Fraser or Artur? For me it's Artur. He hasn't done anything to lose his place and if benched he might want out which sort of defeats having brought in another top goalie. Fraser will get his chance and then it's over to him to keep the shirt. Like when Chambers replaced the injured Clyne and then kept him out.[/p][/quote]I agree, Seed. I'm a firm believer that players should earn the right to get selected, but that's not what is suggested in the third paragraph of the article above. Whoever is picked will get my support and I hope he has a blinder - including saving two penalties; one from little Stevie after Sturridge takes a Suerezesque dive, the other from Rickie after Adam is cut into two by Victor. Oh, and Jose to score the winner, of course.[/p][/quote]I saw that saying he is expected to go straight in. If I was Boruc I'd be miffed at that and fairly so. If we lose Boruc we are back to square one with Kelv and Gazza as the fall backs for injury or suspension. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 0

2:53pm Sun 10 Aug 14

FindAndDestroy says...

Now get him a solid CB....to cement our defense...
Not so convinced about Yoshida, but he is definitely better than Hoover...
I just hope Morgan forgets his move this season and focus on the Team..
If he wasnt planning to stay with the team, why did he sign the contract?
Now get him a solid CB....to cement our defense... Not so convinced about Yoshida, but he is definitely better than Hoover... I just hope Morgan forgets his move this season and focus on the Team.. If he wasnt planning to stay with the team, why did he sign the contract? FindAndDestroy
  • Score: 2

3:07pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

FindAndDestroy wrote:
Now get him a solid CB....to cement our defense...
Not so convinced about Yoshida, but he is definitely better than Hoover...
I just hope Morgan forgets his move this season and focus on the Team..
If he wasnt planning to stay with the team, why did he sign the contract?
According to Wiki he signed a contract extension in Feb 2013. I suppose from his point of view things have massively changed since then. He's unlucky the club chose him to put their foot down with and not Lovren or Chambers, but that's just tough luck.

I've heard a couple of confusing comments by Ron saying about hoping he will be at training on Monday and contrasting his situation with Lovren who had turned up to training. Does anyone know if he showed up for training last week? Sounds like he might not have.
[quote][p][bold]FindAndDestroy[/bold] wrote: Now get him a solid CB....to cement our defense... Not so convinced about Yoshida, but he is definitely better than Hoover... I just hope Morgan forgets his move this season and focus on the Team.. If he wasnt planning to stay with the team, why did he sign the contract?[/p][/quote]According to Wiki he signed a contract extension in Feb 2013. I suppose from his point of view things have massively changed since then. He's unlucky the club chose him to put their foot down with and not Lovren or Chambers, but that's just tough luck. I've heard a couple of confusing comments by Ron saying about hoping he will be at training on Monday and contrasting his situation with Lovren who had turned up to training. Does anyone know if he showed up for training last week? Sounds like he might not have. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 0

3:09pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Graham, North of Watford says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1.

£10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club.

oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?
I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first.

I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.
Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.
Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time.

As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well.

I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.
I don't know where you got the idea in your last sentence from, perhaps you should be more careful about judging people by your own dodgy standards? Have you any evidence, is it instinct or just being mischievous?

Straight question Spider? Stay or Go?
Nothing dodgy about my standards. If you put money into a business as a loan, which she has appears to have done, then if that business generates profits by selling assets I think you are entitled to take the loan back out of the business. Straight forward. Not mischievous. If she hasn't given the club a loan, then she can still take money out as profits or dividends. It's her business. It's up to her. I would just like her to tell us if she does do that. Straight forward. I wouldn't be annoyed if she did. I think all business people are in business to make money. Especially when they wholly own the business. I don't think she has do us any favours if it doesn't help her to make profits. SFC is not owned by the fans. It is owned by her.

Spider. Having been involved in amateur football and semi-pro football in my younger days, I think it is always a mistake to try and keep players who don't want to play for you. RK has put his balls on the line and said Spider can't leave this summer. To back track on that will make him look foolish. If he insists he wants to go, tell him (privately) he can go in January, if he still wants to. We can get a premium price then.

Putting myself in Spider's position I would be very upset to be kept at Saints if I wanted to go after what happened with all the others who have left. I would feel very hard done by. Given his time with the club I don't think he owes us anything. (I don't have the emotional attachment to players that some fans have. I see them all as replaceable cogs in a machine, regardless). But I do have an emotional attachment to the club.

I suspect the club is hanging on to him because they know MP spoke to him before he left for Spurs and that has upset them, given the lengths they went to retain MP.

STID
Lol I expected a simple stay or go response, not a lecture on semantics, I guess I should have included a don't know option? As for business affairs I haven't a clue. I just ask that we get a fair and legal deal in anything that happens, nothing is for ever, but how it will work out is beyond my remit.
You don't need a clue about business affars. Just remember it's only about money.

If you value a Player at £10m and you're offered £20m then you don't have a choice you sell him and ignore the contract. If you value him at £20m and you're offered £20m then its a much more difficult choice,

Where we have gone wrong is to sell so many, presumably at much higher prices than the Board valued them at. We got it wrong because the rump of a team that is left is not attractive enough to bring in new players. The Board should have drawn their line in the sand after 3 sales and then sold some more in the next window if the other Clubs were still buying.

Spider ended up as Tail End Charlie in the great Summer Sale and has drawn the short straw for himself.

I just wondered can any of you readers with long memories remember any situation where any Club has refused to be seduced by large quantities of cash and kept a player on the Books and in the reserves as a punishment.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1. £10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club. oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?[/p][/quote]I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first. I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.[/p][/quote]Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.[/p][/quote]Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time. As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well. I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.[/p][/quote]I don't know where you got the idea in your last sentence from, perhaps you should be more careful about judging people by your own dodgy standards? Have you any evidence, is it instinct or just being mischievous? Straight question Spider? Stay or Go?[/p][/quote]Nothing dodgy about my standards. If you put money into a business as a loan, which she has appears to have done, then if that business generates profits by selling assets I think you are entitled to take the loan back out of the business. Straight forward. Not mischievous. If she hasn't given the club a loan, then she can still take money out as profits or dividends. It's her business. It's up to her. I would just like her to tell us if she does do that. Straight forward. I wouldn't be annoyed if she did. I think all business people are in business to make money. Especially when they wholly own the business. I don't think she has do us any favours if it doesn't help her to make profits. SFC is not owned by the fans. It is owned by her. Spider. Having been involved in amateur football and semi-pro football in my younger days, I think it is always a mistake to try and keep players who don't want to play for you. RK has put his balls on the line and said Spider can't leave this summer. To back track on that will make him look foolish. If he insists he wants to go, tell him (privately) he can go in January, if he still wants to. We can get a premium price then. Putting myself in Spider's position I would be very upset to be kept at Saints if I wanted to go after what happened with all the others who have left. I would feel very hard done by. Given his time with the club I don't think he owes us anything. (I don't have the emotional attachment to players that some fans have. I see them all as replaceable cogs in a machine, regardless). But I do have an emotional attachment to the club. I suspect the club is hanging on to him because they know MP spoke to him before he left for Spurs and that has upset them, given the lengths they went to retain MP. STID[/p][/quote]Lol I expected a simple stay or go response, not a lecture on semantics, I guess I should have included a don't know option? As for business affairs I haven't a clue. I just ask that we get a fair and legal deal in anything that happens, nothing is for ever, but how it will work out is beyond my remit.[/p][/quote]You don't need a clue about business affars. Just remember it's only about money. If you value a Player at £10m and you're offered £20m then you don't have a choice you sell him and ignore the contract. If you value him at £20m and you're offered £20m then its a much more difficult choice, Where we have gone wrong is to sell so many, presumably at much higher prices than the Board valued them at. We got it wrong because the rump of a team that is left is not attractive enough to bring in new players. The Board should have drawn their line in the sand after 3 sales and then sold some more in the next window if the other Clubs were still buying. Spider ended up as Tail End Charlie in the great Summer Sale and has drawn the short straw for himself. I just wondered can any of you readers with long memories remember any situation where any Club has refused to be seduced by large quantities of cash and kept a player on the Books and in the reserves as a punishment. Graham, North of Watford
  • Score: 2

3:09pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Mush On The Beach says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
So, who starts against Liverhampton, Fraser or Artur?

For me it's Artur. He hasn't done anything to lose his place and if benched he might want out which sort of defeats having brought in another top goalie. Fraser will get his chance and then it's over to him to keep the shirt. Like when Chambers replaced the injured Clyne and then kept him out.
I agree, Seed. I'm a firm believer that players should earn the right to get selected, but that's not what is suggested in the third paragraph of the article above.

Whoever is picked will get my support and I hope he has a blinder - including saving two penalties; one from little Stevie after Sturridge takes a Suerezesque dive, the other from Rickie after Adam is cut into two by Victor.

Oh, and Jose to score the winner, of course.
I saw that saying he is expected to go straight in. If I was Boruc I'd be miffed at that and fairly so. If we lose Boruc we are back to square one with Kelv and Gazza as the fall backs for injury or suspension.
It’s always an interesting one and I agree that they should have to earn their opportunity at a new club, but I guess it is down to the gaffer. Boruc starts for me.
Will Shaw get the nod over Evra? Will Costa get the nod over Drogba? Will Jovetic get the nod over Dzecko ..... So many questions, so few days left to lock in my fantasy dream team.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: So, who starts against Liverhampton, Fraser or Artur? For me it's Artur. He hasn't done anything to lose his place and if benched he might want out which sort of defeats having brought in another top goalie. Fraser will get his chance and then it's over to him to keep the shirt. Like when Chambers replaced the injured Clyne and then kept him out.[/p][/quote]I agree, Seed. I'm a firm believer that players should earn the right to get selected, but that's not what is suggested in the third paragraph of the article above. Whoever is picked will get my support and I hope he has a blinder - including saving two penalties; one from little Stevie after Sturridge takes a Suerezesque dive, the other from Rickie after Adam is cut into two by Victor. Oh, and Jose to score the winner, of course.[/p][/quote]I saw that saying he is expected to go straight in. If I was Boruc I'd be miffed at that and fairly so. If we lose Boruc we are back to square one with Kelv and Gazza as the fall backs for injury or suspension.[/p][/quote]It’s always an interesting one and I agree that they should have to earn their opportunity at a new club, but I guess it is down to the gaffer. Boruc starts for me. Will Shaw get the nod over Evra? Will Costa get the nod over Drogba? Will Jovetic get the nod over Dzecko ..... So many questions, so few days left to lock in my fantasy dream team. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 2

3:16pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

george chivers wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
george chivers wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1.

£10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club.

oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?
I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first.

I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.
Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.
Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time.

As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well.

I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.
PS well done for being Eric and Ken's paper boy. Kenny Whimshurst was one of my favourite players in the 60's. One paced with a beautiful touch on the ball, always in space. He cheeks puffing out as he ran. Very under rated at the time. Had the ability to beat players and change games. Perpetual motion. Brilliant and I think we got him on a free or very close to a free from Wolves.
I'll second that. Ken Winshurst had class. Somebody mentioned Campbell Forsyth yesterday. A great keeper, and his career-ending injury came from such an innocuous challenge. Against Liverpool, if I remember correctly.

Thinking of other players from the distant past, I reckon George O'Brien might have solved our current goal-poaching weakness.
That's where the George in George Chivers comes from. Great player, another favourite of mine.
And here was me thinking all this time it was from Charlie!
Chivers would be from the jam then? ;0)
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1. £10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club. oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?[/p][/quote]I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first. I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.[/p][/quote]Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.[/p][/quote]Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time. As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well. I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.[/p][/quote]PS well done for being Eric and Ken's paper boy. Kenny Whimshurst was one of my favourite players in the 60's. One paced with a beautiful touch on the ball, always in space. He cheeks puffing out as he ran. Very under rated at the time. Had the ability to beat players and change games. Perpetual motion. Brilliant and I think we got him on a free or very close to a free from Wolves.[/p][/quote]I'll second that. Ken Winshurst had class. Somebody mentioned Campbell Forsyth yesterday. A great keeper, and his career-ending injury came from such an innocuous challenge. Against Liverpool, if I remember correctly. Thinking of other players from the distant past, I reckon George O'Brien might have solved our current goal-poaching weakness.[/p][/quote]That's where the George in George Chivers comes from. Great player, another favourite of mine.[/p][/quote]And here was me thinking all this time it was from Charlie! Chivers would be from the jam then? ;0) Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

3:21pm Sun 10 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
FindAndDestroy wrote:
Now get him a solid CB....to cement our defense...
Not so convinced about Yoshida, but he is definitely better than Hoover...
I just hope Morgan forgets his move this season and focus on the Team..
If he wasnt planning to stay with the team, why did he sign the contract?
According to Wiki he signed a contract extension in Feb 2013. I suppose from his point of view things have massively changed since then. He's unlucky the club chose him to put their foot down with and not Lovren or Chambers, but that's just tough luck.

I've heard a couple of confusing comments by Ron saying about hoping he will be at training on Monday and contrasting his situation with Lovren who had turned up to training. Does anyone know if he showed up for training last week? Sounds like he might not have.
I think RonKo said he would be talking on Monday, not training.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FindAndDestroy[/bold] wrote: Now get him a solid CB....to cement our defense... Not so convinced about Yoshida, but he is definitely better than Hoover... I just hope Morgan forgets his move this season and focus on the Team.. If he wasnt planning to stay with the team, why did he sign the contract?[/p][/quote]According to Wiki he signed a contract extension in Feb 2013. I suppose from his point of view things have massively changed since then. He's unlucky the club chose him to put their foot down with and not Lovren or Chambers, but that's just tough luck. I've heard a couple of confusing comments by Ron saying about hoping he will be at training on Monday and contrasting his situation with Lovren who had turned up to training. Does anyone know if he showed up for training last week? Sounds like he might not have.[/p][/quote]I think RonKo said he would be talking on Monday, not training. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

3:23pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
So, who starts against Liverhampton, Fraser or Artur?

For me it's Artur. He hasn't done anything to lose his place and if benched he might want out which sort of defeats having brought in another top goalie. Fraser will get his chance and then it's over to him to keep the shirt. Like when Chambers replaced the injured Clyne and then kept him out.
Agree entirely. Artur's number 1 until proven otherwise.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: So, who starts against Liverhampton, Fraser or Artur? For me it's Artur. He hasn't done anything to lose his place and if benched he might want out which sort of defeats having brought in another top goalie. Fraser will get his chance and then it's over to him to keep the shirt. Like when Chambers replaced the injured Clyne and then kept him out.[/p][/quote]Agree entirely. Artur's number 1 until proven otherwise. Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

3:33pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
george chivers wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1.

£10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club.

oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?
I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first.

I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.
Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.
Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time.

As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well.

I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.
PS well done for being Eric and Ken's paper boy. Kenny Whimshurst was one of my favourite players in the 60's. One paced with a beautiful touch on the ball, always in space. He cheeks puffing out as he ran. Very under rated at the time. Had the ability to beat players and change games. Perpetual motion. Brilliant and I think we got him on a free or very close to a free from Wolves.
I'll second that. Ken Winshurst had class. Somebody mentioned Campbell Forsyth yesterday. A great keeper, and his career-ending injury came from such an innocuous challenge. Against Liverpool, if I remember correctly.

Thinking of other players from the distant past, I reckon George O'Brien might have solved our current goal-poaching weakness.
That's where the George in George Chivers comes from. Great player, another favourite of mine.
And here was me thinking all this time it was from Charlie!
Chivers would be from the jam then? ;0)
Now you've got me thinking about who my Saints compilation log in name would be...I think I'd go for Ron (as in Davies) Martin (as in Eric).
Ron Martin..yes,I like that.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1. £10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club. oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?[/p][/quote]I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first. I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.[/p][/quote]Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.[/p][/quote]Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time. As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well. I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.[/p][/quote]PS well done for being Eric and Ken's paper boy. Kenny Whimshurst was one of my favourite players in the 60's. One paced with a beautiful touch on the ball, always in space. He cheeks puffing out as he ran. Very under rated at the time. Had the ability to beat players and change games. Perpetual motion. Brilliant and I think we got him on a free or very close to a free from Wolves.[/p][/quote]I'll second that. Ken Winshurst had class. Somebody mentioned Campbell Forsyth yesterday. A great keeper, and his career-ending injury came from such an innocuous challenge. Against Liverpool, if I remember correctly. Thinking of other players from the distant past, I reckon George O'Brien might have solved our current goal-poaching weakness.[/p][/quote]That's where the George in George Chivers comes from. Great player, another favourite of mine.[/p][/quote]And here was me thinking all this time it was from Charlie! Chivers would be from the jam then? ;0)[/p][/quote]Now you've got me thinking about who my Saints compilation log in name would be...I think I'd go for Ron (as in Davies) Martin (as in Eric). Ron Martin..yes,I like that. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

3:34pm Sun 10 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Block 42 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Block 42 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Block 42 wrote:
10million on an spl goalie??fo reals??..after watching pelle yeaterday mans dont fill me with cinfidence..jumps for everything wins nothing and hes slow..why do we keep signingbslow strikers?????????can someone anyone tell me why??we need a sergio kun aguero style striker its so obvious.
So as Guly has gone you feel the need to pick on someone else?
Your kinda dodging my question..I guess u don't know why fair dinkom I guess..its true tho we tend to buy slow strikers and at 8 mill im expecting massive things from pelle..he just seems to have no pace and dosnt win much for a big dude..we need a jay hernandez style player who can breacha d fence but some of u on here seem to know very little bout football and think pelle is better than hernandez...f@@k my old boots
I saw something a bit different yesterday, I saw a centre forward being marked, often by three strong defenders, yet still winning the ball in the air, the fact that we had no one on the right wavelength to take advantage made it look wasteful, but I am sure that will come with more game time. He is supposed be a bit hot tempered but I saw someone getting clattered and no sign of protest or retaliation. Can't compare him with Hernadez that's just idiotic thinking, but I would rather have an honest tryer, playing for the team than an egotistical prima donna that thinks he is too good for us, irrespective of how good he is.
You watched the same game I went to, I think he would play well with Chicoritito.
Did pelle win amything in the air??must of missed that...why u saying hernandez is egotistical??hes not..what he is is a proven gol scorer in the epl...I think he may bring out best in pelle and vise versa and jay rod is a mix of the two.
You seem to be a bit out of the loop, Hernandez has said on a couple of occasions he won't go to Southampton because he is better than that. If you didn't see Pelle winning the ball yesterday, what were you looking at during the game, the totty in the Kingsland? Or were the new lights getting in your eyes?
[quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: 10million on an spl goalie??fo reals??..after watching pelle yeaterday mans dont fill me with cinfidence..jumps for everything wins nothing and hes slow..why do we keep signingbslow strikers?????????can someone anyone tell me why??we need a sergio kun aguero style striker its so obvious.[/p][/quote]So as Guly has gone you feel the need to pick on someone else?[/p][/quote]Your kinda dodging my question..I guess u don't know why fair dinkom I guess..its true tho we tend to buy slow strikers and at 8 mill im expecting massive things from pelle..he just seems to have no pace and dosnt win much for a big dude..we need a jay hernandez style player who can breacha d fence but some of u on here seem to know very little bout football and think pelle is better than hernandez...f@@k my old boots[/p][/quote]I saw something a bit different yesterday, I saw a centre forward being marked, often by three strong defenders, yet still winning the ball in the air, the fact that we had no one on the right wavelength to take advantage made it look wasteful, but I am sure that will come with more game time. He is supposed be a bit hot tempered but I saw someone getting clattered and no sign of protest or retaliation. Can't compare him with Hernadez that's just idiotic thinking, but I would rather have an honest tryer, playing for the team than an egotistical prima donna that thinks he is too good for us, irrespective of how good he is.[/p][/quote]You watched the same game I went to, I think he would play well with Chicoritito.[/p][/quote]Did pelle win amything in the air??must of missed that...why u saying hernandez is egotistical??hes not..what he is is a proven gol scorer in the epl...I think he may bring out best in pelle and vise versa and jay rod is a mix of the two.[/p][/quote]You seem to be a bit out of the loop, Hernandez has said on a couple of occasions he won't go to Southampton because he is better than that. If you didn't see Pelle winning the ball yesterday, what were you looking at during the game, the totty in the Kingsland? Or were the new lights getting in your eyes? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

3:40pm Sun 10 Aug 14

justaSaintsfan says...

costa gaz wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Happy Clappers 4-6 Merchants of Doom
Back of the net... pick that one out!!!!!!

The most unlikely of comebacks is back on.
You have had your say. Now I am having mine!

Please note that I have included loan players because they will actually be PLAYING FOR Saints (or elsewhere in Osvaldo's case).

Latest score:

Happy Clappers 6 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider, Forster)

Neggie Veggies. 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Lovren, Chambers, Osvaldo)

Unlike you, I have never doubted the comeback!!!

On the matter of loan signings, trying before buying makes sense. A case in point is Lukaku, whose loan deal was made permanent. According to the way some people think, he didn't play for the borrowing club last season, as he was only on loan. So how come all their results were valid with him in their team? His loan deal was a great bit of business!

Welcome to all our new players, including those on loan. Good riddance to Osvaldo, for a season at least!

Come on the happy clappers and down with the neggie veggie doom mongers!

Most of all UP THE SAINTS!!!

Come on costa, please lighten up even more. I know you can do it because you ARE a Saints fan!!!
Thank you for your comments Justa.
The committee have looked into your theory and after much discussion and deliberation we have drawn the conclusion that only permanent transfers can be counted in the official HC's v MoD score.
Please refer to rule 27/4 section e.
If you wish to appeal this decision please contact me at.... info@couldn'tgiveado

nald.com
;-)
Ha! Ha! Ha!

See, I knew you could do it, costa! That's a bit lighter, but there is an issue you haven't addressed. Presumably you reckon that none of the points Saints gain in the coming season will count in the matches in which our team includes any loan players. You must therefore find it so odd that the official Premier League's official officials fully accept the idea that loan players officially play for the clubs to which they have been officially loaned.

You know how we all just love (tongue in cheek) officialdom!!! Lol!
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Happy Clappers 4-6 Merchants of Doom Back of the net... pick that one out!!!!!! The most unlikely of comebacks is back on.[/p][/quote]You have had your say. Now I am having mine! Please note that I have included loan players because they will actually be PLAYING FOR Saints (or elsewhere in Osvaldo's case). Latest score: Happy Clappers 6 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider, Forster) Neggie Veggies. 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Lovren, Chambers, Osvaldo) Unlike you, I have never doubted the comeback!!! On the matter of loan signings, trying before buying makes sense. A case in point is Lukaku, whose loan deal was made permanent. According to the way some people think, he didn't play for the borrowing club last season, as he was only on loan. So how come all their results were valid with him in their team? His loan deal was a great bit of business! Welcome to all our new players, including those on loan. Good riddance to Osvaldo, for a season at least! Come on the happy clappers and down with the neggie veggie doom mongers! Most of all UP THE SAINTS!!! Come on costa, please lighten up even more. I know you can do it because you ARE a Saints fan!!![/p][/quote]Thank you for your comments Justa. The committee have looked into your theory and after much discussion and deliberation we have drawn the conclusion that only permanent transfers can be counted in the official HC's v MoD score. Please refer to rule 27/4 section e. If you wish to appeal this decision please contact me at.... info@couldn'tgiveado nald.com ;-)[/p][/quote]Ha! Ha! Ha! See, I knew you could do it, costa! That's a bit lighter, but there is an issue you haven't addressed. Presumably you reckon that none of the points Saints gain in the coming season will count in the matches in which our team includes any loan players. You must therefore find it so odd that the official Premier League's official officials fully accept the idea that loan players officially play for the clubs to which they have been officially loaned. You know how we all just love (tongue in cheek) officialdom!!! Lol! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: 1

3:45pm Sun 10 Aug 14

lovemachine says...

Hernandez looks to be off to Juventas and Rojo to Manure. Could be rumours, but not good
Hernandez looks to be off to Juventas and Rojo to Manure. Could be rumours, but not good lovemachine
  • Score: 0

3:48pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

justaSaintsfan wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Happy Clappers 4-6 Merchants of Doom
Back of the net... pick that one out!!!!!!

The most unlikely of comebacks is back on.
You have had your say. Now I am having mine!

Please note that I have included loan players because they will actually be PLAYING FOR Saints (or elsewhere in Osvaldo's case).

Latest score:

Happy Clappers 6 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider, Forster)

Neggie Veggies. 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Lovren, Chambers, Osvaldo)

Unlike you, I have never doubted the comeback!!!

On the matter of loan signings, trying before buying makes sense. A case in point is Lukaku, whose loan deal was made permanent. According to the way some people think, he didn't play for the borrowing club last season, as he was only on loan. So how come all their results were valid with him in their team? His loan deal was a great bit of business!

Welcome to all our new players, including those on loan. Good riddance to Osvaldo, for a season at least!

Come on the happy clappers and down with the neggie veggie doom mongers!

Most of all UP THE SAINTS!!!

Come on costa, please lighten up even more. I know you can do it because you ARE a Saints fan!!!
Thank you for your comments Justa.
The committee have looked into your theory and after much discussion and deliberation we have drawn the conclusion that only permanent transfers can be counted in the official HC's v MoD score.
Please refer to rule 27/4 section e.
If you wish to appeal this decision please contact me at.... info@couldn'tgiveado


nald.com
;-)
Ha! Ha! Ha!

See, I knew you could do it, costa! That's a bit lighter, but there is an issue you haven't addressed. Presumably you reckon that none of the points Saints gain in the coming season will count in the matches in which our team includes any loan players. You must therefore find it so odd that the official Premier League's official officials fully accept the idea that loan players officially play for the clubs to which they have been officially loaned.

You know how we all just love (tongue in cheek) officialdom!!! Lol!
As a current Neggie I'm happy to allowed the Clap Boys to count loanees.

However, I want Cortese in the Neggie score as to me he was the biggest loss of all. Question is are the Clappers barefaced enough to try and add Ralph to their score?
[quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Happy Clappers 4-6 Merchants of Doom Back of the net... pick that one out!!!!!! The most unlikely of comebacks is back on.[/p][/quote]You have had your say. Now I am having mine! Please note that I have included loan players because they will actually be PLAYING FOR Saints (or elsewhere in Osvaldo's case). Latest score: Happy Clappers 6 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider, Forster) Neggie Veggies. 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Lovren, Chambers, Osvaldo) Unlike you, I have never doubted the comeback!!! On the matter of loan signings, trying before buying makes sense. A case in point is Lukaku, whose loan deal was made permanent. According to the way some people think, he didn't play for the borrowing club last season, as he was only on loan. So how come all their results were valid with him in their team? His loan deal was a great bit of business! Welcome to all our new players, including those on loan. Good riddance to Osvaldo, for a season at least! Come on the happy clappers and down with the neggie veggie doom mongers! Most of all UP THE SAINTS!!! Come on costa, please lighten up even more. I know you can do it because you ARE a Saints fan!!![/p][/quote]Thank you for your comments Justa. The committee have looked into your theory and after much discussion and deliberation we have drawn the conclusion that only permanent transfers can be counted in the official HC's v MoD score. Please refer to rule 27/4 section e. If you wish to appeal this decision please contact me at.... info@couldn'tgiveado nald.com ;-)[/p][/quote]Ha! Ha! Ha! See, I knew you could do it, costa! That's a bit lighter, but there is an issue you haven't addressed. Presumably you reckon that none of the points Saints gain in the coming season will count in the matches in which our team includes any loan players. You must therefore find it so odd that the official Premier League's official officials fully accept the idea that loan players officially play for the clubs to which they have been officially loaned. You know how we all just love (tongue in cheek) officialdom!!! Lol![/p][/quote]As a current Neggie I'm happy to allowed the Clap Boys to count loanees. However, I want Cortese in the Neggie score as to me he was the biggest loss of all. Question is are the Clappers barefaced enough to try and add Ralph to their score? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -1

3:51pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

lovemachine wrote:
Hernandez looks to be off to Juventas and Rojo to Manure. Could be rumours, but not good
Hope not. We've dragged our feet over both, particularly Rojo, and should have got in there and got the deals done.
[quote][p][bold]lovemachine[/bold] wrote: Hernandez looks to be off to Juventas and Rojo to Manure. Could be rumours, but not good[/p][/quote]Hope not. We've dragged our feet over both, particularly Rojo, and should have got in there and got the deals done. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 1

3:52pm Sun 10 Aug 14

george chivers says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
george chivers wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1.

£10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club.

oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?
I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first.

I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.
Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.
Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time.

As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well.

I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.
PS well done for being Eric and Ken's paper boy. Kenny Whimshurst was one of my favourite players in the 60's. One paced with a beautiful touch on the ball, always in space. He cheeks puffing out as he ran. Very under rated at the time. Had the ability to beat players and change games. Perpetual motion. Brilliant and I think we got him on a free or very close to a free from Wolves.
I'll second that. Ken Winshurst had class. Somebody mentioned Campbell Forsyth yesterday. A great keeper, and his career-ending injury came from such an innocuous challenge. Against Liverpool, if I remember correctly.

Thinking of other players from the distant past, I reckon George O'Brien might have solved our current goal-poaching weakness.
That's where the George in George Chivers comes from. Great player, another favourite of mine.
And here was me thinking all this time it was from Charlie!
Chivers would be from the jam then? ;0)
I didn't know Chivers was a member in the Jam.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1. £10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club. oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?[/p][/quote]I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first. I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.[/p][/quote]Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.[/p][/quote]Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time. As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well. I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.[/p][/quote]PS well done for being Eric and Ken's paper boy. Kenny Whimshurst was one of my favourite players in the 60's. One paced with a beautiful touch on the ball, always in space. He cheeks puffing out as he ran. Very under rated at the time. Had the ability to beat players and change games. Perpetual motion. Brilliant and I think we got him on a free or very close to a free from Wolves.[/p][/quote]I'll second that. Ken Winshurst had class. Somebody mentioned Campbell Forsyth yesterday. A great keeper, and his career-ending injury came from such an innocuous challenge. Against Liverpool, if I remember correctly. Thinking of other players from the distant past, I reckon George O'Brien might have solved our current goal-poaching weakness.[/p][/quote]That's where the George in George Chivers comes from. Great player, another favourite of mine.[/p][/quote]And here was me thinking all this time it was from Charlie! Chivers would be from the jam then? ;0)[/p][/quote]I didn't know Chivers was a member in the Jam. george chivers
  • Score: 0

3:57pm Sun 10 Aug 14

george chivers says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1.

£10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club.

oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?
I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first.

I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.
Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.
Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time.

As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well.

I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.
I don't know where you got the idea in your last sentence from, perhaps you should be more careful about judging people by your own dodgy standards? Have you any evidence, is it instinct or just being mischievous?

Straight question Spider? Stay or Go?
Nothing dodgy about my standards. If you put money into a business as a loan, which she has appears to have done, then if that business generates profits by selling assets I think you are entitled to take the loan back out of the business. Straight forward. Not mischievous. If she hasn't given the club a loan, then she can still take money out as profits or dividends. It's her business. It's up to her. I would just like her to tell us if she does do that. Straight forward. I wouldn't be annoyed if she did. I think all business people are in business to make money. Especially when they wholly own the business. I don't think she has do us any favours if it doesn't help her to make profits. SFC is not owned by the fans. It is owned by her.

Spider. Having been involved in amateur football and semi-pro football in my younger days, I think it is always a mistake to try and keep players who don't want to play for you. RK has put his balls on the line and said Spider can't leave this summer. To back track on that will make him look foolish. If he insists he wants to go, tell him (privately) he can go in January, if he still wants to. We can get a premium price then.

Putting myself in Spider's position I would be very upset to be kept at Saints if I wanted to go after what happened with all the others who have left. I would feel very hard done by. Given his time with the club I don't think he owes us anything. (I don't have the emotional attachment to players that some fans have. I see them all as replaceable cogs in a machine, regardless). But I do have an emotional attachment to the club.

I suspect the club is hanging on to him because they know MP spoke to him before he left for Spurs and that has upset them, given the lengths they went to retain MP.

STID
Lol I expected a simple stay or go response, not a lecture on semantics, I guess I should have included a don't know option? As for business affairs I haven't a clue. I just ask that we get a fair and legal deal in anything that happens, nothing is for ever, but how it will work out is beyond my remit.
There are no simple answers.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1. £10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club. oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?[/p][/quote]I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first. I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.[/p][/quote]Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.[/p][/quote]Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time. As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well. I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.[/p][/quote]I don't know where you got the idea in your last sentence from, perhaps you should be more careful about judging people by your own dodgy standards? Have you any evidence, is it instinct or just being mischievous? Straight question Spider? Stay or Go?[/p][/quote]Nothing dodgy about my standards. If you put money into a business as a loan, which she has appears to have done, then if that business generates profits by selling assets I think you are entitled to take the loan back out of the business. Straight forward. Not mischievous. If she hasn't given the club a loan, then she can still take money out as profits or dividends. It's her business. It's up to her. I would just like her to tell us if she does do that. Straight forward. I wouldn't be annoyed if she did. I think all business people are in business to make money. Especially when they wholly own the business. I don't think she has do us any favours if it doesn't help her to make profits. SFC is not owned by the fans. It is owned by her. Spider. Having been involved in amateur football and semi-pro football in my younger days, I think it is always a mistake to try and keep players who don't want to play for you. RK has put his balls on the line and said Spider can't leave this summer. To back track on that will make him look foolish. If he insists he wants to go, tell him (privately) he can go in January, if he still wants to. We can get a premium price then. Putting myself in Spider's position I would be very upset to be kept at Saints if I wanted to go after what happened with all the others who have left. I would feel very hard done by. Given his time with the club I don't think he owes us anything. (I don't have the emotional attachment to players that some fans have. I see them all as replaceable cogs in a machine, regardless). But I do have an emotional attachment to the club. I suspect the club is hanging on to him because they know MP spoke to him before he left for Spurs and that has upset them, given the lengths they went to retain MP. STID[/p][/quote]Lol I expected a simple stay or go response, not a lecture on semantics, I guess I should have included a don't know option? As for business affairs I haven't a clue. I just ask that we get a fair and legal deal in anything that happens, nothing is for ever, but how it will work out is beyond my remit.[/p][/quote]There are no simple answers. george chivers
  • Score: 1

4:15pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1.

£10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club.

oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?
I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first.

I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.
Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.
Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time.

As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well.

I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.
I don't know where you got the idea in your last sentence from, perhaps you should be more careful about judging people by your own dodgy standards? Have you any evidence, is it instinct or just being mischievous?

Straight question Spider? Stay or Go?
Nothing dodgy about my standards. If you put money into a business as a loan, which she has appears to have done, then if that business generates profits by selling assets I think you are entitled to take the loan back out of the business. Straight forward. Not mischievous. If she hasn't given the club a loan, then she can still take money out as profits or dividends. It's her business. It's up to her. I would just like her to tell us if she does do that. Straight forward. I wouldn't be annoyed if she did. I think all business people are in business to make money. Especially when they wholly own the business. I don't think she has do us any favours if it doesn't help her to make profits. SFC is not owned by the fans. It is owned by her.

Spider. Having been involved in amateur football and semi-pro football in my younger days, I think it is always a mistake to try and keep players who don't want to play for you. RK has put his balls on the line and said Spider can't leave this summer. To back track on that will make him look foolish. If he insists he wants to go, tell him (privately) he can go in January, if he still wants to. We can get a premium price then.

Putting myself in Spider's position I would be very upset to be kept at Saints if I wanted to go after what happened with all the others who have left. I would feel very hard done by. Given his time with the club I don't think he owes us anything. (I don't have the emotional attachment to players that some fans have. I see them all as replaceable cogs in a machine, regardless). But I do have an emotional attachment to the club.

I suspect the club is hanging on to him because they know MP spoke to him before he left for Spurs and that has upset them, given the lengths they went to retain MP.

STID
Lol I expected a simple stay or go response, not a lecture on semantics, I guess I should have included a don't know option? As for business affairs I haven't a clue. I just ask that we get a fair and legal deal in anything that happens, nothing is for ever, but how it will work out is beyond my remit.
There are no simple answers.
We know where they are blowin'
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1. £10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club. oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?[/p][/quote]I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first. I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.[/p][/quote]Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.[/p][/quote]Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time. As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well. I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.[/p][/quote]I don't know where you got the idea in your last sentence from, perhaps you should be more careful about judging people by your own dodgy standards? Have you any evidence, is it instinct or just being mischievous? Straight question Spider? Stay or Go?[/p][/quote]Nothing dodgy about my standards. If you put money into a business as a loan, which she has appears to have done, then if that business generates profits by selling assets I think you are entitled to take the loan back out of the business. Straight forward. Not mischievous. If she hasn't given the club a loan, then she can still take money out as profits or dividends. It's her business. It's up to her. I would just like her to tell us if she does do that. Straight forward. I wouldn't be annoyed if she did. I think all business people are in business to make money. Especially when they wholly own the business. I don't think she has do us any favours if it doesn't help her to make profits. SFC is not owned by the fans. It is owned by her. Spider. Having been involved in amateur football and semi-pro football in my younger days, I think it is always a mistake to try and keep players who don't want to play for you. RK has put his balls on the line and said Spider can't leave this summer. To back track on that will make him look foolish. If he insists he wants to go, tell him (privately) he can go in January, if he still wants to. We can get a premium price then. Putting myself in Spider's position I would be very upset to be kept at Saints if I wanted to go after what happened with all the others who have left. I would feel very hard done by. Given his time with the club I don't think he owes us anything. (I don't have the emotional attachment to players that some fans have. I see them all as replaceable cogs in a machine, regardless). But I do have an emotional attachment to the club. I suspect the club is hanging on to him because they know MP spoke to him before he left for Spurs and that has upset them, given the lengths they went to retain MP. STID[/p][/quote]Lol I expected a simple stay or go response, not a lecture on semantics, I guess I should have included a don't know option? As for business affairs I haven't a clue. I just ask that we get a fair and legal deal in anything that happens, nothing is for ever, but how it will work out is beyond my remit.[/p][/quote]There are no simple answers.[/p][/quote]We know where they are blowin' Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

4:18pm Sun 10 Aug 14

justaSaintsfan says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
I think Forster will end up taking the number 1 shirt and keeping it.

What yesterday's match showed is that we are still missing a few pieces in the jigsaw. A couple of centre backs are badly needed, as well as striker.
What yesterdays game showed us is that pelle is crap and tadic out of his depth.plus we need 2 strikers and 2 cbs and a winger.
Hello SammyNoVotes!

As promised, I have given you a "thumbs up" as part of my appeal for us all to show you some love. In your case the "thumbs up" are all, of course, "WUMs up!" Poor SammyNoVotes, I sympathise ever so much that your constant PMT is causing you to feel so unloved that you simply have to vote yourself all those "WUMs up" every time you post on threads about your beloved Saints, the bestest team in your red and white mind.

Rest assured, SammyNoVotes, that I am still on the case, collecting contributions towards buying you a lovely new pink Vicky Pollarding tool to prevent you laddering your pink tights when you help Dame Edna with the gladdy harvest. I'm also starting an appeal to purchase your new pink wellies, so that will stop you getting that horrible sinking feeling from wearing your pink stilettos whilst in the fields bringing in the harvest of your favourite red and white gladdies.

All hail SammyNoVotes, the red and whitest number WUM Saints fan in the whole wide world!!!

Please remember, fellow possums, that SammyNoVotes doesn't really mean to seem aggressive when she offers to meet her fellow staunch Saints fans in Southampton pubs before matches. It is only her PMT talking. She just needs our understanding and some love, plus lots of "WUMs up!"

And talking of up, UP THE SAINTS, the favourite team of SammyNoVotes!
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: I think Forster will end up taking the number 1 shirt and keeping it. What yesterday's match showed is that we are still missing a few pieces in the jigsaw. A couple of centre backs are badly needed, as well as striker.[/p][/quote]What yesterdays game showed us is that pelle is crap and tadic out of his depth.plus we need 2 strikers and 2 cbs and a winger.[/p][/quote]Hello SammyNoVotes! As promised, I have given you a "thumbs up" as part of my appeal for us all to show you some love. In your case the "thumbs up" are all, of course, "WUMs up!" Poor SammyNoVotes, I sympathise ever so much that your constant PMT is causing you to feel so unloved that you simply have to vote yourself all those "WUMs up" every time you post on threads about your beloved Saints, the bestest team in your red and white mind. Rest assured, SammyNoVotes, that I am still on the case, collecting contributions towards buying you a lovely new pink Vicky Pollarding tool to prevent you laddering your pink tights when you help Dame Edna with the gladdy harvest. I'm also starting an appeal to purchase your new pink wellies, so that will stop you getting that horrible sinking feeling from wearing your pink stilettos whilst in the fields bringing in the harvest of your favourite red and white gladdies. All hail SammyNoVotes, the red and whitest number WUM Saints fan in the whole wide world!!! Please remember, fellow possums, that SammyNoVotes doesn't really mean to seem aggressive when she offers to meet her fellow staunch Saints fans in Southampton pubs before matches. It is only her PMT talking. She just needs our understanding and some love, plus lots of "WUMs up!" And talking of up, UP THE SAINTS, the favourite team of SammyNoVotes! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: 2

4:29pm Sun 10 Aug 14

SNUGGLES 78 says...

Liverpool must fancy seven or more next week.
Liverpool must fancy seven or more next week. SNUGGLES 78
  • Score: -1

4:39pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

SNUGGLES 78 wrote:
Liverpool must fancy seven or more next week.
What..players?
[quote][p][bold]SNUGGLES 78[/bold] wrote: Liverpool must fancy seven or more next week.[/p][/quote]What..players? Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 3

4:40pm Sun 10 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

SNUGGLES 78 wrote:
Liverpool must fancy seven or more next week.
Hope they do think it'll be that easy....that's when it often back fires on teams.
[quote][p][bold]SNUGGLES 78[/bold] wrote: Liverpool must fancy seven or more next week.[/p][/quote]Hope they do think it'll be that easy....that's when it often back fires on teams. J7junctionseven
  • Score: 3

4:49pm Sun 10 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

SNUGGLES 78 wrote:
Liverpool must fancy seven or more next week.
Who do you support?
[quote][p][bold]SNUGGLES 78[/bold] wrote: Liverpool must fancy seven or more next week.[/p][/quote]Who do you support? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

4:50pm Sun 10 Aug 14

justaSaintsfan says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Happy Clappers 4-6 Merchants of Doom
Back of the net... pick that one out!!!!!!

The most unlikely of comebacks is back on.
You have had your say. Now I am having mine!

Please note that I have included loan players because they will actually be PLAYING FOR Saints (or elsewhere in Osvaldo's case).

Latest score:

Happy Clappers 6 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider, Forster)

Neggie Veggies. 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Lovren, Chambers, Osvaldo)

Unlike you, I have never doubted the comeback!!!

On the matter of loan signings, trying before buying makes sense. A case in point is Lukaku, whose loan deal was made permanent. According to the way some people think, he didn't play for the borrowing club last season, as he was only on loan. So how come all their results were valid with him in their team? His loan deal was a great bit of business!

Welcome to all our new players, including those on loan. Good riddance to Osvaldo, for a season at least!

Come on the happy clappers and down with the neggie veggie doom mongers!

Most of all UP THE SAINTS!!!

Come on costa, please lighten up even more. I know you can do it because you ARE a Saints fan!!!
Thank you for your comments Justa.
The committee have looked into your theory and after much discussion and deliberation we have drawn the conclusion that only permanent transfers can be counted in the official HC's v MoD score.
Please refer to rule 27/4 section e.
If you wish to appeal this decision please contact me at.... info@couldn'tgiveado



nald.com
;-)
Ha! Ha! Ha!

See, I knew you could do it, costa! That's a bit lighter, but there is an issue you haven't addressed. Presumably you reckon that none of the points Saints gain in the coming season will count in the matches in which our team includes any loan players. You must therefore find it so odd that the official Premier League's official officials fully accept the idea that loan players officially play for the clubs to which they have been officially loaned.

You know how we all just love (tongue in cheek) officialdom!!! Lol!
As a current Neggie I'm happy to allowed the Clap Boys to count loanees.

However, I want Cortese in the Neggie score as to me he was the biggest loss of all. Question is are the Clappers barefaced enough to try and add Ralph to their score?
The jury is still out on Ralph. His position could become untenable if the club gives in to Morgan's wish for a transfer to that super duper, much more ambitious than Saints, Tottonhampton Flopspur, the club that was best known for winning trophies in years that ended with a "1." By my reckoning, Morgan should, perhaps, realise that the North London club of his dreams might be due for a trophy win in the year 2021!

I just hope SFC remains true to Ralph's word, as there have already been too many player sales, which have between them caused too much player instability. The club now needs to stand firm and show its players and especially its fans that SFC is ambitious enough to stop any more players leaving. Saints should now be only in the rebuilding process, telling other clubs to stop tapping up our players.

Morgan's agent isn't very good at his job if the best he can get for his client is a derisory offer from a not so big London club that is resting on the laurels of its infrequent former glories and has not qualified for the Champions League.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Happy Clappers 4-6 Merchants of Doom Back of the net... pick that one out!!!!!! The most unlikely of comebacks is back on.[/p][/quote]You have had your say. Now I am having mine! Please note that I have included loan players because they will actually be PLAYING FOR Saints (or elsewhere in Osvaldo's case). Latest score: Happy Clappers 6 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider, Forster) Neggie Veggies. 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Lovren, Chambers, Osvaldo) Unlike you, I have never doubted the comeback!!! On the matter of loan signings, trying before buying makes sense. A case in point is Lukaku, whose loan deal was made permanent. According to the way some people think, he didn't play for the borrowing club last season, as he was only on loan. So how come all their results were valid with him in their team? His loan deal was a great bit of business! Welcome to all our new players, including those on loan. Good riddance to Osvaldo, for a season at least! Come on the happy clappers and down with the neggie veggie doom mongers! Most of all UP THE SAINTS!!! Come on costa, please lighten up even more. I know you can do it because you ARE a Saints fan!!![/p][/quote]Thank you for your comments Justa. The committee have looked into your theory and after much discussion and deliberation we have drawn the conclusion that only permanent transfers can be counted in the official HC's v MoD score. Please refer to rule 27/4 section e. If you wish to appeal this decision please contact me at.... info@couldn'tgiveado nald.com ;-)[/p][/quote]Ha! Ha! Ha! See, I knew you could do it, costa! That's a bit lighter, but there is an issue you haven't addressed. Presumably you reckon that none of the points Saints gain in the coming season will count in the matches in which our team includes any loan players. You must therefore find it so odd that the official Premier League's official officials fully accept the idea that loan players officially play for the clubs to which they have been officially loaned. You know how we all just love (tongue in cheek) officialdom!!! Lol![/p][/quote]As a current Neggie I'm happy to allowed the Clap Boys to count loanees. However, I want Cortese in the Neggie score as to me he was the biggest loss of all. Question is are the Clappers barefaced enough to try and add Ralph to their score?[/p][/quote]The jury is still out on Ralph. His position could become untenable if the club gives in to Morgan's wish for a transfer to that super duper, much more ambitious than Saints, Tottonhampton Flopspur, the club that was best known for winning trophies in years that ended with a "1." By my reckoning, Morgan should, perhaps, realise that the North London club of his dreams might be due for a trophy win in the year 2021! I just hope SFC remains true to Ralph's word, as there have already been too many player sales, which have between them caused too much player instability. The club now needs to stand firm and show its players and especially its fans that SFC is ambitious enough to stop any more players leaving. Saints should now be only in the rebuilding process, telling other clubs to stop tapping up our players. Morgan's agent isn't very good at his job if the best he can get for his client is a derisory offer from a not so big London club that is resting on the laurels of its infrequent former glories and has not qualified for the Champions League. justaSaintsfan
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5:00pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
So, who starts against Liverhampton, Fraser or Artur?

For me it's Artur. He hasn't done anything to lose his place and if benched he might want out which sort of defeats having brought in another top goalie. Fraser will get his chance and then it's over to him to keep the shirt. Like when Chambers replaced the injured Clyne and then kept him out.
I agree, Seed. I'm a firm believer that players should earn the right to get selected, but that's not what is suggested in the third paragraph of the article above.

Whoever is picked will get my support and I hope he has a blinder - including saving two penalties; one from little Stevie after Sturridge takes a Suerezesque dive, the other from Rickie after Adam is cut into two by Victor.

Oh, and Jose to score the winner, of course.
I saw that saying he is expected to go straight in. If I was Boruc I'd be miffed at that and fairly so. If we lose Boruc we are back to square one with Kelv and Gazza as the fall backs for injury or suspension.
It’s always an interesting one and I agree that they should have to earn their opportunity at a new club, but I guess it is down to the gaffer. Boruc starts for me.
Will Shaw get the nod over Evra? Will Costa get the nod over Drogba? Will Jovetic get the nod over Dzecko ..... So many questions, so few days left to lock in my fantasy dream team.
Ha! I remember when Alan Ball returned from Vancouver and marched straight back into a successful midfield. I still think Mac made a mistake doing that.

What I truly hope is that FF hasn't insisted on being number 1. If reports were true at the time, then Butland made it a condition of any transfer from Brum before he left. IMO, NO ONE has the right to demand a place in any side, it ALWAYS has to be earned.
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: So, who starts against Liverhampton, Fraser or Artur? For me it's Artur. He hasn't done anything to lose his place and if benched he might want out which sort of defeats having brought in another top goalie. Fraser will get his chance and then it's over to him to keep the shirt. Like when Chambers replaced the injured Clyne and then kept him out.[/p][/quote]I agree, Seed. I'm a firm believer that players should earn the right to get selected, but that's not what is suggested in the third paragraph of the article above. Whoever is picked will get my support and I hope he has a blinder - including saving two penalties; one from little Stevie after Sturridge takes a Suerezesque dive, the other from Rickie after Adam is cut into two by Victor. Oh, and Jose to score the winner, of course.[/p][/quote]I saw that saying he is expected to go straight in. If I was Boruc I'd be miffed at that and fairly so. If we lose Boruc we are back to square one with Kelv and Gazza as the fall backs for injury or suspension.[/p][/quote]It’s always an interesting one and I agree that they should have to earn their opportunity at a new club, but I guess it is down to the gaffer. Boruc starts for me. Will Shaw get the nod over Evra? Will Costa get the nod over Drogba? Will Jovetic get the nod over Dzecko ..... So many questions, so few days left to lock in my fantasy dream team.[/p][/quote]Ha! I remember when Alan Ball returned from Vancouver and marched straight back into a successful midfield. I still think Mac made a mistake doing that. What I truly hope is that FF hasn't insisted on being number 1. If reports were true at the time, then Butland made it a condition of any transfer from Brum before he left. IMO, NO ONE has the right to demand a place in any side, it ALWAYS has to be earned. Strasbourg Saint
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5:27pm Sun 10 Aug 14

george chivers says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1.

£10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club.

oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?
I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first.

I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.
Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.
Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time.

As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well.

I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.
I don't know where you got the idea in your last sentence from, perhaps you should be more careful about judging people by your own dodgy standards? Have you any evidence, is it instinct or just being mischievous?

Straight question Spider? Stay or Go?
Nothing dodgy about my standards. If you put money into a business as a loan, which she has appears to have done, then if that business generates profits by selling assets I think you are entitled to take the loan back out of the business. Straight forward. Not mischievous. If she hasn't given the club a loan, then she can still take money out as profits or dividends. It's her business. It's up to her. I would just like her to tell us if she does do that. Straight forward. I wouldn't be annoyed if she did. I think all business people are in business to make money. Especially when they wholly own the business. I don't think she has do us any favours if it doesn't help her to make profits. SFC is not owned by the fans. It is owned by her.

Spider. Having been involved in amateur football and semi-pro football in my younger days, I think it is always a mistake to try and keep players who don't want to play for you. RK has put his balls on the line and said Spider can't leave this summer. To back track on that will make him look foolish. If he insists he wants to go, tell him (privately) he can go in January, if he still wants to. We can get a premium price then.

Putting myself in Spider's position I would be very upset to be kept at Saints if I wanted to go after what happened with all the others who have left. I would feel very hard done by. Given his time with the club I don't think he owes us anything. (I don't have the emotional attachment to players that some fans have. I see them all as replaceable cogs in a machine, regardless). But I do have an emotional attachment to the club.

I suspect the club is hanging on to him because they know MP spoke to him before he left for Spurs and that has upset them, given the lengths they went to retain MP.

STID
Lol I expected a simple stay or go response, not a lecture on semantics, I guess I should have included a don't know option? As for business affairs I haven't a clue. I just ask that we get a fair and legal deal in anything that happens, nothing is for ever, but how it will work out is beyond my remit.
There are no simple answers.
We know where they are blowin'
In a South Coast gale.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1. £10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club. oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?[/p][/quote]I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first. I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.[/p][/quote]Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.[/p][/quote]Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time. As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well. I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.[/p][/quote]I don't know where you got the idea in your last sentence from, perhaps you should be more careful about judging people by your own dodgy standards? Have you any evidence, is it instinct or just being mischievous? Straight question Spider? Stay or Go?[/p][/quote]Nothing dodgy about my standards. If you put money into a business as a loan, which she has appears to have done, then if that business generates profits by selling assets I think you are entitled to take the loan back out of the business. Straight forward. Not mischievous. If she hasn't given the club a loan, then she can still take money out as profits or dividends. It's her business. It's up to her. I would just like her to tell us if she does do that. Straight forward. I wouldn't be annoyed if she did. I think all business people are in business to make money. Especially when they wholly own the business. I don't think she has do us any favours if it doesn't help her to make profits. SFC is not owned by the fans. It is owned by her. Spider. Having been involved in amateur football and semi-pro football in my younger days, I think it is always a mistake to try and keep players who don't want to play for you. RK has put his balls on the line and said Spider can't leave this summer. To back track on that will make him look foolish. If he insists he wants to go, tell him (privately) he can go in January, if he still wants to. We can get a premium price then. Putting myself in Spider's position I would be very upset to be kept at Saints if I wanted to go after what happened with all the others who have left. I would feel very hard done by. Given his time with the club I don't think he owes us anything. (I don't have the emotional attachment to players that some fans have. I see them all as replaceable cogs in a machine, regardless). But I do have an emotional attachment to the club. I suspect the club is hanging on to him because they know MP spoke to him before he left for Spurs and that has upset them, given the lengths they went to retain MP. STID[/p][/quote]Lol I expected a simple stay or go response, not a lecture on semantics, I guess I should have included a don't know option? As for business affairs I haven't a clue. I just ask that we get a fair and legal deal in anything that happens, nothing is for ever, but how it will work out is beyond my remit.[/p][/quote]There are no simple answers.[/p][/quote]We know where they are blowin'[/p][/quote]In a South Coast gale. george chivers
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5:36pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
lovemachine wrote:
Hernandez looks to be off to Juventas and Rojo to Manure. Could be rumours, but not good
Hope not. We've dragged our feet over both, particularly Rojo, and should have got in there and got the deals done.
Sounds a bit like Coutinho last year. Was that also foot dragging?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lovemachine[/bold] wrote: Hernandez looks to be off to Juventas and Rojo to Manure. Could be rumours, but not good[/p][/quote]Hope not. We've dragged our feet over both, particularly Rojo, and should have got in there and got the deals done.[/p][/quote]Sounds a bit like Coutinho last year. Was that also foot dragging? Rising_Son
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5:45pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Happy Clappers 4-6 Merchants of Doom
Back of the net... pick that one out!!!!!!

The most unlikely of comebacks is back on.
You have had your say. Now I am having mine!

Please note that I have included loan players because they will actually be PLAYING FOR Saints (or elsewhere in Osvaldo's case).

Latest score:

Happy Clappers 6 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider, Forster)

Neggie Veggies. 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Lovren, Chambers, Osvaldo)

Unlike you, I have never doubted the comeback!!!

On the matter of loan signings, trying before buying makes sense. A case in point is Lukaku, whose loan deal was made permanent. According to the way some people think, he didn't play for the borrowing club last season, as he was only on loan. So how come all their results were valid with him in their team? His loan deal was a great bit of business!

Welcome to all our new players, including those on loan. Good riddance to Osvaldo, for a season at least!

Come on the happy clappers and down with the neggie veggie doom mongers!

Most of all UP THE SAINTS!!!

Come on costa, please lighten up even more. I know you can do it because you ARE a Saints fan!!!
Thank you for your comments Justa.
The committee have looked into your theory and after much discussion and deliberation we have drawn the conclusion that only permanent transfers can be counted in the official HC's v MoD score.
Please refer to rule 27/4 section e.
If you wish to appeal this decision please contact me at.... info@couldn'tgiveado



nald.com
;-)
Ha! Ha! Ha!

See, I knew you could do it, costa! That's a bit lighter, but there is an issue you haven't addressed. Presumably you reckon that none of the points Saints gain in the coming season will count in the matches in which our team includes any loan players. You must therefore find it so odd that the official Premier League's official officials fully accept the idea that loan players officially play for the clubs to which they have been officially loaned.

You know how we all just love (tongue in cheek) officialdom!!! Lol!
As a current Neggie I'm happy to allowed the Clap Boys to count loanees.

However, I want Cortese in the Neggie score as to me he was the biggest loss of all. Question is are the Clappers barefaced enough to try and add Ralph to their score?
Nah, Seed, NC walked, so you can't count him, just as the HCs can't count either Ralph or Katarina. Furthermore, NC's departure pre-dates what this is all about - THE CURRENT BOARD.

Likewise, counting MP means counting Ron (or counting neither), as does counting any of the backroom staff - it balances out.

Osvaldo could count either way, so I think it best to ignore him and Guly wasn't offered a new contract, so he doesn't count. If Billy goes, it would also be dumb to count it.

So, outs are: NC, RL, AL, DL, LS & CC (6)
Ins are: GP, DT, RB, ST & FF (5)
(plus, of course, all those academy players that are breaking into the first team squad now that there are a few spaces and the new teenage keeper, but I think we can regard those as peripheral to this current debate.

So, no, you can't have NC. Good try though!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Happy Clappers 4-6 Merchants of Doom Back of the net... pick that one out!!!!!! The most unlikely of comebacks is back on.[/p][/quote]You have had your say. Now I am having mine! Please note that I have included loan players because they will actually be PLAYING FOR Saints (or elsewhere in Osvaldo's case). Latest score: Happy Clappers 6 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider, Forster) Neggie Veggies. 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Lovren, Chambers, Osvaldo) Unlike you, I have never doubted the comeback!!! On the matter of loan signings, trying before buying makes sense. A case in point is Lukaku, whose loan deal was made permanent. According to the way some people think, he didn't play for the borrowing club last season, as he was only on loan. So how come all their results were valid with him in their team? His loan deal was a great bit of business! Welcome to all our new players, including those on loan. Good riddance to Osvaldo, for a season at least! Come on the happy clappers and down with the neggie veggie doom mongers! Most of all UP THE SAINTS!!! Come on costa, please lighten up even more. I know you can do it because you ARE a Saints fan!!![/p][/quote]Thank you for your comments Justa. The committee have looked into your theory and after much discussion and deliberation we have drawn the conclusion that only permanent transfers can be counted in the official HC's v MoD score. Please refer to rule 27/4 section e. If you wish to appeal this decision please contact me at.... info@couldn'tgiveado nald.com ;-)[/p][/quote]Ha! Ha! Ha! See, I knew you could do it, costa! That's a bit lighter, but there is an issue you haven't addressed. Presumably you reckon that none of the points Saints gain in the coming season will count in the matches in which our team includes any loan players. You must therefore find it so odd that the official Premier League's official officials fully accept the idea that loan players officially play for the clubs to which they have been officially loaned. You know how we all just love (tongue in cheek) officialdom!!! Lol![/p][/quote]As a current Neggie I'm happy to allowed the Clap Boys to count loanees. However, I want Cortese in the Neggie score as to me he was the biggest loss of all. Question is are the Clappers barefaced enough to try and add Ralph to their score?[/p][/quote]Nah, Seed, NC walked, so you can't count him, just as the HCs can't count either Ralph or Katarina. Furthermore, NC's departure pre-dates what this is all about - THE CURRENT BOARD. Likewise, counting MP means counting Ron (or counting neither), as does counting any of the backroom staff - it balances out. Osvaldo could count either way, so I think it best to ignore him and Guly wasn't offered a new contract, so he doesn't count. If Billy goes, it would also be dumb to count it. So, outs are: NC, RL, AL, DL, LS & CC (6) Ins are: GP, DT, RB, ST & FF (5) (plus, of course, all those academy players that are breaking into the first team squad now that there are a few spaces and the new teenage keeper, but I think we can regard those as peripheral to this current debate. So, no, you can't have NC. Good try though! Strasbourg Saint
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5:55pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

george chivers wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1.

£10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club.

oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?
I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first.

I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.
Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.
Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time.

As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well.

I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.
I don't know where you got the idea in your last sentence from, perhaps you should be more careful about judging people by your own dodgy standards? Have you any evidence, is it instinct or just being mischievous?

Straight question Spider? Stay or Go?
Nothing dodgy about my standards. If you put money into a business as a loan, which she has appears to have done, then if that business generates profits by selling assets I think you are entitled to take the loan back out of the business. Straight forward. Not mischievous. If she hasn't given the club a loan, then she can still take money out as profits or dividends. It's her business. It's up to her. I would just like her to tell us if she does do that. Straight forward. I wouldn't be annoyed if she did. I think all business people are in business to make money. Especially when they wholly own the business. I don't think she has do us any favours if it doesn't help her to make profits. SFC is not owned by the fans. It is owned by her.

Spider. Having been involved in amateur football and semi-pro football in my younger days, I think it is always a mistake to try and keep players who don't want to play for you. RK has put his balls on the line and said Spider can't leave this summer. To back track on that will make him look foolish. If he insists he wants to go, tell him (privately) he can go in January, if he still wants to. We can get a premium price then.

Putting myself in Spider's position I would be very upset to be kept at Saints if I wanted to go after what happened with all the others who have left. I would feel very hard done by. Given his time with the club I don't think he owes us anything. (I don't have the emotional attachment to players that some fans have. I see them all as replaceable cogs in a machine, regardless). But I do have an emotional attachment to the club.

I suspect the club is hanging on to him because they know MP spoke to him before he left for Spurs and that has upset them, given the lengths they went to retain MP.

STID
Lol I expected a simple stay or go response, not a lecture on semantics, I guess I should have included a don't know option? As for business affairs I haven't a clue. I just ask that we get a fair and legal deal in anything that happens, nothing is for ever, but how it will work out is beyond my remit.
There are no simple answers.
We know where they are blowin'
In a South Coast gale.
But nothing really matters much..it's doom alone,that counts!
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: welcome to the pride of the south to Fraser Forster, a safe pair of hands and soon to be Englands No. 1. £10mill for a keeper is a clear sign of intent from the club. oh now who was it who said that KL is asset stripping and we wouldn't buy another player? echo 19something or other what have you got to say now then? didnt one of our fake scousers also mention it a few times as well, any others want to say they were wrong?[/p][/quote]I didn't say it but so far we have only spent circa £30M of the £92M. It will be interesting to see what we spend by September the first. I'm pleased with Forster. Now we want two CB's and a striker.[/p][/quote]Did you understand the bit about the booty coming in, in instalments, not a lump sum? We won't spend what haven't actually got in the kitty.[/p][/quote]Yes I do understand that. But that happens in football the time to all teams not just to us. So we can do the same when we pay for players, so therefore my numbers are correct. If the players we sold are being paid for in instalments we don't have to wait until the money comes in, we can do the same when we buy players. It happens all the time. As I said I'll wait to see how much we have spent by September the first. And don't forget at the end of last season Les Reed said we have no need to sell anybody and we can still strengthen our squad with the £80m we get in PL prize money and TV money. And yes I know that comes in instalments as well. I will be very interested to see how it pans out on September the first. If it looks like our owner has taken out a slug of money to pay herself back what the club owes her I wouldn't blame her. I would do the same. But I would like her to come clean and explain it to the supporters and fans.[/p][/quote]I don't know where you got the idea in your last sentence from, perhaps you should be more careful about judging people by your own dodgy standards? Have you any evidence, is it instinct or just being mischievous? Straight question Spider? Stay or Go?[/p][/quote]Nothing dodgy about my standards. If you put money into a business as a loan, which she has appears to have done, then if that business generates profits by selling assets I think you are entitled to take the loan back out of the business. Straight forward. Not mischievous. If she hasn't given the club a loan, then she can still take money out as profits or dividends. It's her business. It's up to her. I would just like her to tell us if she does do that. Straight forward. I wouldn't be annoyed if she did. I think all business people are in business to make money. Especially when they wholly own the business. I don't think she has do us any favours if it doesn't help her to make profits. SFC is not owned by the fans. It is owned by her. Spider. Having been involved in amateur football and semi-pro football in my younger days, I think it is always a mistake to try and keep players who don't want to play for you. RK has put his balls on the line and said Spider can't leave this summer. To back track on that will make him look foolish. If he insists he wants to go, tell him (privately) he can go in January, if he still wants to. We can get a premium price then. Putting myself in Spider's position I would be very upset to be kept at Saints if I wanted to go after what happened with all the others who have left. I would feel very hard done by. Given his time with the club I don't think he owes us anything. (I don't have the emotional attachment to players that some fans have. I see them all as replaceable cogs in a machine, regardless). But I do have an emotional attachment to the club. I suspect the club is hanging on to him because they know MP spoke to him before he left for Spurs and that has upset them, given the lengths they went to retain MP. STID[/p][/quote]Lol I expected a simple stay or go response, not a lecture on semantics, I guess I should have included a don't know option? As for business affairs I haven't a clue. I just ask that we get a fair and legal deal in anything that happens, nothing is for ever, but how it will work out is beyond my remit.[/p][/quote]There are no simple answers.[/p][/quote]We know where they are blowin'[/p][/quote]In a South Coast gale.[/p][/quote]But nothing really matters much..it's doom alone,that counts! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

5:58pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
lovemachine wrote:
Hernandez looks to be off to Juventas and Rojo to Manure. Could be rumours, but not good
Hope not. We've dragged our feet over both, particularly Rojo, and should have got in there and got the deals done.
Sounds a bit like Coutinho last year. Was that also foot dragging?
Rightly or wrongly, the club has dragged its feet over transfers for some years now. My guess is that it's all about Les Reed doing it his way and making sure the club gets what he and the board (through NC when he was here, through Ralph today) believe to be the best deal. (Whether or not that happened with the recent sales is a different debate.)

It's like a game of poker, if you shout 'YES' when you see that you've got 4 aces in your hand, you might as well throw in your hand. Some on here would like us to go straight in with a high bid for everyone and offer the player better money than Real Madrid, but that would be dumb. Much better to start low as you would when buying that new house someone used as a metaphor yesterday.

It's also why my 'positive' leanings lean the other way and I fall in behind Seed's thinking when it comes to the way the key players were sold. It's not that I blame the current board for selling them but the timing and 'high-profiling' way it ended up happening, which created a belief in some quarters that the club was in meltdown.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lovemachine[/bold] wrote: Hernandez looks to be off to Juventas and Rojo to Manure. Could be rumours, but not good[/p][/quote]Hope not. We've dragged our feet over both, particularly Rojo, and should have got in there and got the deals done.[/p][/quote]Sounds a bit like Coutinho last year. Was that also foot dragging?[/p][/quote]Rightly or wrongly, the club has dragged its feet over transfers for some years now. My guess is that it's all about Les Reed doing it his way and making sure the club gets what he and the board (through NC when he was here, through Ralph today) believe to be the best deal. (Whether or not that happened with the recent sales is a different debate.) It's like a game of poker, if you shout 'YES' when you see that you've got 4 aces in your hand, you might as well throw in your hand. Some on here would like us to go straight in with a high bid for everyone and offer the player better money than Real Madrid, but that would be dumb. Much better to start low as you would when buying that new house someone used as a metaphor yesterday. It's also why my 'positive' leanings lean the other way and I fall in behind Seed's thinking when it comes to the way the key players were sold. It's not that I blame the current board for selling them but the timing and 'high-profiling' way it ended up happening, which created a belief in some quarters that the club was in meltdown. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 0

6:01pm Sun 10 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
Welcome to the Saints family Fraser Forster, I think this is a shrewd signing and with his previous connections with our new goalie training staff it sits well with me. The price seems large but there you go.
Horse 101, I like to defer my curiosity to your more patient research attributes ..... Who are the top 5 most expensive GK signings in the prem? I would throw in De Gea for starters and also what happened to the so called next big thing Butland from Brum.... buyer beware.
Jack Butland is and always was carp imho, watched him a few times for brum and thought he was awful and was glad he either didn't want to come here, because he wanted a starting place, or we didn't want him. stoke paid £3.3-£3.5mill for him and havent used him, he finished last season on loan at leeds where he conceded 28 goals in 16 apps. after starting with a 0-0 draw and getting man of the match.

as for the prems most expensive keepers, the list (from what I can find out) is;

David De Gea Cost: £18m

Petr Cech Cost:£11.5 m

Simon Mignolet Cost: £9m

Craig Gordon Cost: £9m

Hugo Lloris Cost: £8m

Fabien Barthez Cost: £7.8m

so at £10mill Forster goes in as the third most expensive keeper in the prem!

but the prem gets no where near the fees paid in Europe for keepers;

Gianluigi Buffon Cost: £47.5m

Manuel Neuer Cost: £24m
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: Welcome to the Saints family Fraser Forster, I think this is a shrewd signing and with his previous connections with our new goalie training staff it sits well with me. The price seems large but there you go. Horse 101, I like to defer my curiosity to your more patient research attributes ..... Who are the top 5 most expensive GK signings in the prem? I would throw in De Gea for starters and also what happened to the so called next big thing Butland from Brum.... buyer beware.[/p][/quote]Jack Butland is and always was carp imho, watched him a few times for brum and thought he was awful and was glad he either didn't want to come here, because he wanted a starting place, or we didn't want him. stoke paid £3.3-£3.5mill for him and havent used him, he finished last season on loan at leeds where he conceded 28 goals in 16 apps. after starting with a 0-0 draw and getting man of the match. as for the prems most expensive keepers, the list (from what I can find out) is; David De Gea Cost: £18m Petr Cech Cost:£11.5 m Simon Mignolet Cost: £9m Craig Gordon Cost: £9m Hugo Lloris Cost: £8m Fabien Barthez Cost: £7.8m so at £10mill Forster goes in as the third most expensive keeper in the prem! but the prem gets no where near the fees paid in Europe for keepers; Gianluigi Buffon Cost: £47.5m Manuel Neuer Cost: £24m de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 1

6:12pm Sun 10 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
FindAndDestroy wrote:
Now get him a solid CB....to cement our defense...
Not so convinced about Yoshida, but he is definitely better than Hoover...
I just hope Morgan forgets his move this season and focus on the Team..
If he wasnt planning to stay with the team, why did he sign the contract?
According to Wiki he signed a contract extension in Feb 2013. I suppose from his point of view things have massively changed since then. He's unlucky the club chose him to put their foot down with and not Lovren or Chambers, but that's just tough luck.

I've heard a couple of confusing comments by Ron saying about hoping he will be at training on Monday and contrasting his situation with Lovren who had turned up to training. Does anyone know if he showed up for training last week? Sounds like he might not have.
I think RonKo said he would be talking on Monday, not training.
I`m pretty sure that spider was training last week and after the meeting o Friday he was given the weekend off and told to report to training on Monday with his head in the right place, ie your not moving get over it!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FindAndDestroy[/bold] wrote: Now get him a solid CB....to cement our defense... Not so convinced about Yoshida, but he is definitely better than Hoover... I just hope Morgan forgets his move this season and focus on the Team.. If he wasnt planning to stay with the team, why did he sign the contract?[/p][/quote]According to Wiki he signed a contract extension in Feb 2013. I suppose from his point of view things have massively changed since then. He's unlucky the club chose him to put their foot down with and not Lovren or Chambers, but that's just tough luck. I've heard a couple of confusing comments by Ron saying about hoping he will be at training on Monday and contrasting his situation with Lovren who had turned up to training. Does anyone know if he showed up for training last week? Sounds like he might not have.[/p][/quote]I think RonKo said he would be talking on Monday, not training.[/p][/quote]I`m pretty sure that spider was training last week and after the meeting o Friday he was given the weekend off and told to report to training on Monday with his head in the right place, ie your not moving get over it! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 0

6:25pm Sun 10 Aug 14

lovemachine says...

"Caught offside" now saying Spuds tabling bid for Hernandez!!! Seems every other team either want our players or the ones we want!! They don't need scouts , just ask sfc!!!
"Caught offside" now saying Spuds tabling bid for Hernandez!!! Seems every other team either want our players or the ones we want!! They don't need scouts , just ask sfc!!! lovemachine
  • Score: 1

6:26pm Sun 10 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
lovemachine wrote:
Hernandez looks to be off to Juventas and Rojo to Manure. Could be rumours, but not good
Hope not. We've dragged our feet over both, particularly Rojo, and should have got in there and got the deals done.
Sounds a bit like Coutinho last year. Was that also foot dragging?
I don't think we ever had a chance with coutinho, he wanted to go to liverhampton and said so. I think seed said once or twice that we offered more to the club and a better deal to the player, but he wanted to wait for an offer from them. nothing to do with dragging feet.

I think the same might be happening with Rojo right now, we have upped our bid several times but its not in the best interest of the club to sell as they only own 25% of the player, with a third party owning the other 75%. they both have to come to an agreement and then we have to get Rojo to agree, this was always going to take time. there is also a negotiation as to how the money is paid, sporting want their 25% in a lump sum. I don't think its just us who are dragging our feet with this one. although I am willing to accept that we have taken some time on previous transfers. having said that I do wonder why some are blaming les reed at the moment, we have a long history of taking time, and I never saw anyone blaming people before, like NC.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lovemachine[/bold] wrote: Hernandez looks to be off to Juventas and Rojo to Manure. Could be rumours, but not good[/p][/quote]Hope not. We've dragged our feet over both, particularly Rojo, and should have got in there and got the deals done.[/p][/quote]Sounds a bit like Coutinho last year. Was that also foot dragging?[/p][/quote]I don't think we ever had a chance with coutinho, he wanted to go to liverhampton and said so. I think seed said once or twice that we offered more to the club and a better deal to the player, but he wanted to wait for an offer from them. nothing to do with dragging feet. I think the same might be happening with Rojo right now, we have upped our bid several times but its not in the best interest of the club to sell as they only own 25% of the player, with a third party owning the other 75%. they both have to come to an agreement and then we have to get Rojo to agree, this was always going to take time. there is also a negotiation as to how the money is paid, sporting want their 25% in a lump sum. I don't think its just us who are dragging our feet with this one. although I am willing to accept that we have taken some time on previous transfers. having said that I do wonder why some are blaming les reed at the moment, we have a long history of taking time, and I never saw anyone blaming people before, like NC. de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 0

7:14pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
lovemachine wrote:
Hernandez looks to be off to Juventas and Rojo to Manure. Could be rumours, but not good
Hope not. We've dragged our feet over both, particularly Rojo, and should have got in there and got the deals done.
Sounds a bit like Coutinho last year. Was that also foot dragging?
Rightly or wrongly, the club has dragged its feet over transfers for some years now. My guess is that it's all about Les Reed doing it his way and making sure the club gets what he and the board (through NC when he was here, through Ralph today) believe to be the best deal. (Whether or not that happened with the recent sales is a different debate.)

It's like a game of poker, if you shout 'YES' when you see that you've got 4 aces in your hand, you might as well throw in your hand. Some on here would like us to go straight in with a high bid for everyone and offer the player better money than Real Madrid, but that would be dumb. Much better to start low as you would when buying that new house someone used as a metaphor yesterday.

It's also why my 'positive' leanings lean the other way and I fall in behind Seed's thinking when it comes to the way the key players were sold. It's not that I blame the current board for selling them but the timing and 'high-profiling' way it ended up happening, which created a belief in some quarters that the club was in meltdown.
I agree with you and seed about our sales, but I wonder how it could have been avoided. The rumours of a meltdown were out there before the end of last season. The media focus was on us, and the media made the most of every sale to create a 'club in crisis'.

As for the original question about foot-dragging, I tend to agree with Horse that players have their own reasons for choosing other teams over us, just like the players who have recently left us. The Rojo deal also appears to be rather complicated anyway.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lovemachine[/bold] wrote: Hernandez looks to be off to Juventas and Rojo to Manure. Could be rumours, but not good[/p][/quote]Hope not. We've dragged our feet over both, particularly Rojo, and should have got in there and got the deals done.[/p][/quote]Sounds a bit like Coutinho last year. Was that also foot dragging?[/p][/quote]Rightly or wrongly, the club has dragged its feet over transfers for some years now. My guess is that it's all about Les Reed doing it his way and making sure the club gets what he and the board (through NC when he was here, through Ralph today) believe to be the best deal. (Whether or not that happened with the recent sales is a different debate.) It's like a game of poker, if you shout 'YES' when you see that you've got 4 aces in your hand, you might as well throw in your hand. Some on here would like us to go straight in with a high bid for everyone and offer the player better money than Real Madrid, but that would be dumb. Much better to start low as you would when buying that new house someone used as a metaphor yesterday. It's also why my 'positive' leanings lean the other way and I fall in behind Seed's thinking when it comes to the way the key players were sold. It's not that I blame the current board for selling them but the timing and 'high-profiling' way it ended up happening, which created a belief in some quarters that the club was in meltdown.[/p][/quote]I agree with you and seed about our sales, but I wonder how it could have been avoided. The rumours of a meltdown were out there before the end of last season. The media focus was on us, and the media made the most of every sale to create a 'club in crisis'. As for the original question about foot-dragging, I tend to agree with Horse that players have their own reasons for choosing other teams over us, just like the players who have recently left us. The Rojo deal also appears to be rather complicated anyway. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

7:44pm Sun 10 Aug 14

St.Yorkie says...

well back from Southampton after a horrendous 6-hour drive home which gave me a bit of time to think about yesterday.
Firstly found a e spot for a beer pre-game.
The game itself - it was interesting rather than massively entertaining. Despite all the new players - I thought we did OK. Pelle won virtually every high ball in the first half but no one seemed to be on his wavelength. On another day Isgrove would have got ore change but I thought the Bayer showed a lot of commitment throwing themselves in the way of everything. Thought Davies and Ward Prowse had good games too. But for all our huffing and puffing Yoshida had our only clear chance from memory. Saving that Boruc never had to make a save for the whole 90-minutes (apart from the Pelle header!).
I don't think we are as good as last year - but we showed sigs of playing - but resorted to hoofing it to Pelle at times which was frustrating.
Some old problem or me - we don't get the ball into the danger areas quick enough - and worry about who is going to score goals.
Taider looks an energetic player, Tadic looks to have vision and touch & Gaston seemed to look quite interested.
I just hope that there are 3-worse teams than us in the league! W will ship goals with Fonte and Yoshida playing side by side. Biggest concern is goals for me! I can see a lot of nervous 1-0's with 10-minutes to go at SMS.
Things will improve when JRod returns - but that's not guaranteed!
Really concerned about our ability to attract decent striker - and a decent CB. But saying all that we did look quite exciting at times with Clyne and Tadic on the right.
Luckily for us not all teams will play with the same intensity and quality offered by Bayer. However they weren't world beaters only creating one chance which Clyne got back to clear,
Think Liverpool will be a real test if we get Gardos, Rojo or Hernandez in this week. Personally I think Hernandez is a pipe dream as he sees his future elsewhere. However money talks and he will be as greedy as the next mercenary footballer. Why move to Saints when you can earn all that money sitting on the bench at United.
well back from Southampton after a horrendous 6-hour drive home which gave me a bit of time to think about yesterday. Firstly found a e spot for a beer pre-game. The game itself - it was interesting rather than massively entertaining. Despite all the new players - I thought we did OK. Pelle won virtually every high ball in the first half but no one seemed to be on his wavelength. On another day Isgrove would have got ore change but I thought the Bayer showed a lot of commitment throwing themselves in the way of everything. Thought Davies and Ward Prowse had good games too. But for all our huffing and puffing Yoshida had our only clear chance from memory. Saving that Boruc never had to make a save for the whole 90-minutes (apart from the Pelle header!). I don't think we are as good as last year - but we showed sigs of playing - but resorted to hoofing it to Pelle at times which was frustrating. Some old problem or me - we don't get the ball into the danger areas quick enough - and worry about who is going to score goals. Taider looks an energetic player, Tadic looks to have vision and touch & Gaston seemed to look quite interested. I just hope that there are 3-worse teams than us in the league! W will ship goals with Fonte and Yoshida playing side by side. Biggest concern is goals for me! I can see a lot of nervous 1-0's with 10-minutes to go at SMS. Things will improve when JRod returns - but that's not guaranteed! Really concerned about our ability to attract decent striker - and a decent CB. But saying all that we did look quite exciting at times with Clyne and Tadic on the right. Luckily for us not all teams will play with the same intensity and quality offered by Bayer. However they weren't world beaters only creating one chance which Clyne got back to clear, Think Liverpool will be a real test if we get Gardos, Rojo or Hernandez in this week. Personally I think Hernandez is a pipe dream as he sees his future elsewhere. However money talks and he will be as greedy as the next mercenary footballer. Why move to Saints when you can earn all that money sitting on the bench at United. St.Yorkie
  • Score: 4

7:55pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

St.Yorkie wrote:
well back from Southampton after a horrendous 6-hour drive home which gave me a bit of time to think about yesterday.
Firstly found a e spot for a beer pre-game.
The game itself - it was interesting rather than massively entertaining. Despite all the new players - I thought we did OK. Pelle won virtually every high ball in the first half but no one seemed to be on his wavelength. On another day Isgrove would have got ore change but I thought the Bayer showed a lot of commitment throwing themselves in the way of everything. Thought Davies and Ward Prowse had good games too. But for all our huffing and puffing Yoshida had our only clear chance from memory. Saving that Boruc never had to make a save for the whole 90-minutes (apart from the Pelle header!).
I don't think we are as good as last year - but we showed sigs of playing - but resorted to hoofing it to Pelle at times which was frustrating.
Some old problem or me - we don't get the ball into the danger areas quick enough - and worry about who is going to score goals.
Taider looks an energetic player, Tadic looks to have vision and touch & Gaston seemed to look quite interested.
I just hope that there are 3-worse teams than us in the league! W will ship goals with Fonte and Yoshida playing side by side. Biggest concern is goals for me! I can see a lot of nervous 1-0's with 10-minutes to go at SMS.
Things will improve when JRod returns - but that's not guaranteed!
Really concerned about our ability to attract decent striker - and a decent CB. But saying all that we did look quite exciting at times with Clyne and Tadic on the right.
Luckily for us not all teams will play with the same intensity and quality offered by Bayer. However they weren't world beaters only creating one chance which Clyne got back to clear,
Think Liverpool will be a real test if we get Gardos, Rojo or Hernandez in this week. Personally I think Hernandez is a pipe dream as he sees his future elsewhere. However money talks and he will be as greedy as the next mercenary footballer. Why move to Saints when you can earn all that money sitting on the bench at United.
Thanks. A good match report.
[quote][p][bold]St.Yorkie[/bold] wrote: well back from Southampton after a horrendous 6-hour drive home which gave me a bit of time to think about yesterday. Firstly found a e spot for a beer pre-game. The game itself - it was interesting rather than massively entertaining. Despite all the new players - I thought we did OK. Pelle won virtually every high ball in the first half but no one seemed to be on his wavelength. On another day Isgrove would have got ore change but I thought the Bayer showed a lot of commitment throwing themselves in the way of everything. Thought Davies and Ward Prowse had good games too. But for all our huffing and puffing Yoshida had our only clear chance from memory. Saving that Boruc never had to make a save for the whole 90-minutes (apart from the Pelle header!). I don't think we are as good as last year - but we showed sigs of playing - but resorted to hoofing it to Pelle at times which was frustrating. Some old problem or me - we don't get the ball into the danger areas quick enough - and worry about who is going to score goals. Taider looks an energetic player, Tadic looks to have vision and touch & Gaston seemed to look quite interested. I just hope that there are 3-worse teams than us in the league! W will ship goals with Fonte and Yoshida playing side by side. Biggest concern is goals for me! I can see a lot of nervous 1-0's with 10-minutes to go at SMS. Things will improve when JRod returns - but that's not guaranteed! Really concerned about our ability to attract decent striker - and a decent CB. But saying all that we did look quite exciting at times with Clyne and Tadic on the right. Luckily for us not all teams will play with the same intensity and quality offered by Bayer. However they weren't world beaters only creating one chance which Clyne got back to clear, Think Liverpool will be a real test if we get Gardos, Rojo or Hernandez in this week. Personally I think Hernandez is a pipe dream as he sees his future elsewhere. However money talks and he will be as greedy as the next mercenary footballer. Why move to Saints when you can earn all that money sitting on the bench at United.[/p][/quote]Thanks. A good match report. Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

8:23pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Rising_Son wrote:
St.Yorkie wrote:
well back from Southampton after a horrendous 6-hour drive home which gave me a bit of time to think about yesterday.
Firstly found a e spot for a beer pre-game.
The game itself - it was interesting rather than massively entertaining. Despite all the new players - I thought we did OK. Pelle won virtually every high ball in the first half but no one seemed to be on his wavelength. On another day Isgrove would have got ore change but I thought the Bayer showed a lot of commitment throwing themselves in the way of everything. Thought Davies and Ward Prowse had good games too. But for all our huffing and puffing Yoshida had our only clear chance from memory. Saving that Boruc never had to make a save for the whole 90-minutes (apart from the Pelle header!).
I don't think we are as good as last year - but we showed sigs of playing - but resorted to hoofing it to Pelle at times which was frustrating.
Some old problem or me - we don't get the ball into the danger areas quick enough - and worry about who is going to score goals.
Taider looks an energetic player, Tadic looks to have vision and touch & Gaston seemed to look quite interested.
I just hope that there are 3-worse teams than us in the league! W will ship goals with Fonte and Yoshida playing side by side. Biggest concern is goals for me! I can see a lot of nervous 1-0's with 10-minutes to go at SMS.
Things will improve when JRod returns - but that's not guaranteed!
Really concerned about our ability to attract decent striker - and a decent CB. But saying all that we did look quite exciting at times with Clyne and Tadic on the right.
Luckily for us not all teams will play with the same intensity and quality offered by Bayer. However they weren't world beaters only creating one chance which Clyne got back to clear,
Think Liverpool will be a real test if we get Gardos, Rojo or Hernandez in this week. Personally I think Hernandez is a pipe dream as he sees his future elsewhere. However money talks and he will be as greedy as the next mercenary footballer. Why move to Saints when you can earn all that money sitting on the bench at United.
Thanks. A good match report.
Yes. Thanks, Yorkie. You seem to be echoing much of what others have said. Let's hope Les's to do list looks like this:

1. Buy one or two quality CB
2. Buy one quality speedy striker
3. Relax and enjoy some celebratory beers with Sammy2shakes. (Note to self, name the venue, he's buying.)
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St.Yorkie[/bold] wrote: well back from Southampton after a horrendous 6-hour drive home which gave me a bit of time to think about yesterday. Firstly found a e spot for a beer pre-game. The game itself - it was interesting rather than massively entertaining. Despite all the new players - I thought we did OK. Pelle won virtually every high ball in the first half but no one seemed to be on his wavelength. On another day Isgrove would have got ore change but I thought the Bayer showed a lot of commitment throwing themselves in the way of everything. Thought Davies and Ward Prowse had good games too. But for all our huffing and puffing Yoshida had our only clear chance from memory. Saving that Boruc never had to make a save for the whole 90-minutes (apart from the Pelle header!). I don't think we are as good as last year - but we showed sigs of playing - but resorted to hoofing it to Pelle at times which was frustrating. Some old problem or me - we don't get the ball into the danger areas quick enough - and worry about who is going to score goals. Taider looks an energetic player, Tadic looks to have vision and touch & Gaston seemed to look quite interested. I just hope that there are 3-worse teams than us in the league! W will ship goals with Fonte and Yoshida playing side by side. Biggest concern is goals for me! I can see a lot of nervous 1-0's with 10-minutes to go at SMS. Things will improve when JRod returns - but that's not guaranteed! Really concerned about our ability to attract decent striker - and a decent CB. But saying all that we did look quite exciting at times with Clyne and Tadic on the right. Luckily for us not all teams will play with the same intensity and quality offered by Bayer. However they weren't world beaters only creating one chance which Clyne got back to clear, Think Liverpool will be a real test if we get Gardos, Rojo or Hernandez in this week. Personally I think Hernandez is a pipe dream as he sees his future elsewhere. However money talks and he will be as greedy as the next mercenary footballer. Why move to Saints when you can earn all that money sitting on the bench at United.[/p][/quote]Thanks. A good match report.[/p][/quote]Yes. Thanks, Yorkie. You seem to be echoing much of what others have said. Let's hope Les's to do list looks like this: 1. Buy one or two quality CB 2. Buy one quality speedy striker 3. Relax and enjoy some celebratory beers with Sammy2shakes. (Note to self, name the venue, he's buying.) Strasbourg Saint
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