Saints bottom of the Premier League pre season air miles table

Ronald Koeman didn't clock up many air miles in returning to Holland for a pre season friendly last week

Ronald Koeman didn't clock up many air miles in returning to Holland for a pre season friendly last week

First published in Sport

SAINTS will clock up the fewest air miles this pre season of any Premier League club.

The club only travelled around 650 miles to get to their two pre season friendlies in Holland and Belgium last week.

In contrast, Newcastle United and West Ham are clocking up over 24,000 miles each as they play pre season games in New Zealand and Germany.

Tottenham are travelling over 13,000 miles for games in the USA, Canada and Finland.

Everton and Leicester are clocking up over 11,000 by going to Thailand, while Manchester United, Liverpool, West Brom, Aston Villa, Manchester City, Crystal Palace, Swansea and Arsenal are all playing games in the USA.

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8:03am Thu 24 Jul 14

saint christopher says...

So?
So? saint christopher
  • Score: 28

8:10am Thu 24 Jul 14

Lone Ranger. says...

..... and the point of this is what exactly ??
..... and the point of this is what exactly ?? Lone Ranger.
  • Score: 20

8:13am Thu 24 Jul 14

White and red till dead says...

No wonder all our stars left - no cushy pre-season knees-up.
No wonder all our stars left - no cushy pre-season knees-up. White and red till dead
  • Score: 46

8:13am Thu 24 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

saint christopher wrote:
So?
Clubs travel to promote their brand abroad and to create a camaraderie amongst their squad bedding in their new players. If it wasn't for Ron we wouldn't have travelled at all. Cost cutting maybe?
[quote][p][bold]saint christopher[/bold] wrote: So?[/p][/quote]Clubs travel to promote their brand abroad and to create a camaraderie amongst their squad bedding in their new players. If it wasn't for Ron we wouldn't have travelled at all. Cost cutting maybe? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -34

8:21am Thu 24 Jul 14

Saintsayer II says...

Just another example of penny pinching and another reason not to believe Les Reed when he said ALL transfer income would be spent on improving the squad
Just another example of penny pinching and another reason not to believe Les Reed when he said ALL transfer income would be spent on improving the squad Saintsayer II
  • Score: -35

8:22am Thu 24 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Good less chance of deep vein thrombosis! And all the germs from the poor air quality on planes.
Good less chance of deep vein thrombosis! And all the germs from the poor air quality on planes. de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 27

8:32am Thu 24 Jul 14

ToonToon Red n White Army says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saint christopher wrote:
So?
Clubs travel to promote their brand abroad and to create a camaraderie amongst their squad bedding in their new players. If it wasn't for Ron we wouldn't have travelled at all. Cost cutting maybe?
It's not like we have a history of long distance pre season travel.. Switzerland is about as far as we've gone in recent years. No bad thing I think... Ever Van Haal has spoken out against it.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint christopher[/bold] wrote: So?[/p][/quote]Clubs travel to promote their brand abroad and to create a camaraderie amongst their squad bedding in their new players. If it wasn't for Ron we wouldn't have travelled at all. Cost cutting maybe?[/p][/quote]It's not like we have a history of long distance pre season travel.. Switzerland is about as far as we've gone in recent years. No bad thing I think... Ever Van Haal has spoken out against it. ToonToon Red n White Army
  • Score: 29

8:37am Thu 24 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saint christopher wrote:
So?
Clubs travel to promote their brand abroad and to create a camaraderie amongst their squad bedding in their new players. If it wasn't for Ron we wouldn't have travelled at all. Cost cutting maybe?
Your absolutely right seed clubs travel to China, the US, Thailand, Dubai and all other corners of the globe in a shirt selling exercise. It has nothing to do with whats best for the players health and fitness or their family lives. Didn't I see that hoof lost to a new Zealand local side yesterday? How much 'promoting of their brand' would they have done over there?
These clubs take their players all over the world and then complain they are tired! Coincidence?

Can anyone explain to me how the fact we haven't travelled far has anything to do with what we spend on transfers? Surely not spending huge sums on a jaunt around the world means more money for other things!

Oh and how is this years 'penny pinching' or 'cost cutting' trip much different to last years trip to Spain and Austria? Did last years trip cost so much more than this years? Wasn't NC in charge for last years? Was he cost cutting or did the team sleep in golden sheets and play with gold laced boots?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint christopher[/bold] wrote: So?[/p][/quote]Clubs travel to promote their brand abroad and to create a camaraderie amongst their squad bedding in their new players. If it wasn't for Ron we wouldn't have travelled at all. Cost cutting maybe?[/p][/quote]Your absolutely right seed clubs travel to China, the US, Thailand, Dubai and all other corners of the globe in a shirt selling exercise. It has nothing to do with whats best for the players health and fitness or their family lives. Didn't I see that hoof lost to a new Zealand local side yesterday? How much 'promoting of their brand' would they have done over there? These clubs take their players all over the world and then complain they are tired! Coincidence? Can anyone explain to me how the fact we haven't travelled far has anything to do with what we spend on transfers? Surely not spending huge sums on a jaunt around the world means more money for other things! Oh and how is this years 'penny pinching' or 'cost cutting' trip much different to last years trip to Spain and Austria? Did last years trip cost so much more than this years? Wasn't NC in charge for last years? Was he cost cutting or did the team sleep in golden sheets and play with gold laced boots? de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 20

8:46am Thu 24 Jul 14

nomorerumours says...

I think that the players will definitely benefit from far fewer air miles. What is the point of get jet lag and exhausting travel? The players can prepare and bond just as easily closer to home and can conserve their energy for training and playing. Some of you guys have got yourselves into such a negative mental state that you are attacking almost every piece of news. The board and RK are doing a great job.
I think that the players will definitely benefit from far fewer air miles. What is the point of get jet lag and exhausting travel? The players can prepare and bond just as easily closer to home and can conserve their energy for training and playing. Some of you guys have got yourselves into such a negative mental state that you are attacking almost every piece of news. The board and RK are doing a great job. nomorerumours
  • Score: 41

8:57am Thu 24 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Don't need to go to Korea to sell shirts if the object of the exercise is to train the team preseason. There are a couple of teams in Ulster for example who would do nicely for a gentle warm up and new fans to be had there if we go with the friendly Saints spirit too. Same with Eire, Scotland and Wales, Scandinavia, Germany, Holland etc etc etc no need for exotic locations to train. They get paid 25K plus a week to go to exotic lands in their own time. I reckon they can afford it if they really wanted to go in their own time and under their own steam, don't you?
Don't need to go to Korea to sell shirts if the object of the exercise is to train the team preseason. There are a couple of teams in Ulster for example who would do nicely for a gentle warm up and new fans to be had there if we go with the friendly Saints spirit too. Same with Eire, Scotland and Wales, Scandinavia, Germany, Holland etc etc etc no need for exotic locations to train. They get paid 25K plus a week to go to exotic lands in their own time. I reckon they can afford it if they really wanted to go in their own time and under their own steam, don't you? jls217
  • Score: 23

9:00am Thu 24 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saint christopher wrote:
So?
Clubs travel to promote their brand abroad and to create a camaraderie amongst their squad bedding in their new players. If it wasn't for Ron we wouldn't have travelled at all. Cost cutting maybe?
Your absolutely right seed clubs travel to China, the US, Thailand, Dubai and all other corners of the globe in a shirt selling exercise. It has nothing to do with whats best for the players health and fitness or their family lives. Didn't I see that hoof lost to a new Zealand local side yesterday? How much 'promoting of their brand' would they have done over there?
These clubs take their players all over the world and then complain they are tired! Coincidence?

Can anyone explain to me how the fact we haven't travelled far has anything to do with what we spend on transfers? Surely not spending huge sums on a jaunt around the world means more money for other things!

Oh and how is this years 'penny pinching' or 'cost cutting' trip much different to last years trip to Spain and Austria? Did last years trip cost so much more than this years? Wasn't NC in charge for last years? Was he cost cutting or did the team sleep in golden sheets and play with gold laced boots?
Until Ron arrived we weren't going anywhere further than the south coast.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint christopher[/bold] wrote: So?[/p][/quote]Clubs travel to promote their brand abroad and to create a camaraderie amongst their squad bedding in their new players. If it wasn't for Ron we wouldn't have travelled at all. Cost cutting maybe?[/p][/quote]Your absolutely right seed clubs travel to China, the US, Thailand, Dubai and all other corners of the globe in a shirt selling exercise. It has nothing to do with whats best for the players health and fitness or their family lives. Didn't I see that hoof lost to a new Zealand local side yesterday? How much 'promoting of their brand' would they have done over there? These clubs take their players all over the world and then complain they are tired! Coincidence? Can anyone explain to me how the fact we haven't travelled far has anything to do with what we spend on transfers? Surely not spending huge sums on a jaunt around the world means more money for other things! Oh and how is this years 'penny pinching' or 'cost cutting' trip much different to last years trip to Spain and Austria? Did last years trip cost so much more than this years? Wasn't NC in charge for last years? Was he cost cutting or did the team sleep in golden sheets and play with gold laced boots?[/p][/quote]Until Ron arrived we weren't going anywhere further than the south coast. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -17

9:04am Thu 24 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Not much point overdoing it, with more than a third of the squad missing for one reason or another, good to bond the ones that are ready, but our pre-season preparation is a long way behind most other Clubs, this could cut both ways, some players will be burnt out before Christmas at the rate some teams are going, that is even before they get involved with European Cups involvement.
Not much point overdoing it, with more than a third of the squad missing for one reason or another, good to bond the ones that are ready, but our pre-season preparation is a long way behind most other Clubs, this could cut both ways, some players will be burnt out before Christmas at the rate some teams are going, that is even before they get involved with European Cups involvement. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

9:17am Thu 24 Jul 14

Rising_Son says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saint christopher wrote:
So?
Clubs travel to promote their brand abroad and to create a camaraderie amongst their squad bedding in their new players. If it wasn't for Ron we wouldn't have travelled at all. Cost cutting maybe?
Your absolutely right seed clubs travel to China, the US, Thailand, Dubai and all other corners of the globe in a shirt selling exercise. It has nothing to do with whats best for the players health and fitness or their family lives. Didn't I see that hoof lost to a new Zealand local side yesterday? How much 'promoting of their brand' would they have done over there?
These clubs take their players all over the world and then complain they are tired! Coincidence?

Can anyone explain to me how the fact we haven't travelled far has anything to do with what we spend on transfers? Surely not spending huge sums on a jaunt around the world means more money for other things!

Oh and how is this years 'penny pinching' or 'cost cutting' trip much different to last years trip to Spain and Austria? Did last years trip cost so much more than this years? Wasn't NC in charge for last years? Was he cost cutting or did the team sleep in golden sheets and play with gold laced boots?
Until Ron arrived we weren't going anywhere further than the south coast.
Yep, a trip to a rugby mad nation of 4.5 million people on the other side of the world is really going to get the cash rolling in. I doubt it.

The real money probably comes in when we get invited to 'tournaments' and when we are shown on terrestial TV week in week out and discussed on football programmes. The problem is that we would already have to be top 6 for those things to happen.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint christopher[/bold] wrote: So?[/p][/quote]Clubs travel to promote their brand abroad and to create a camaraderie amongst their squad bedding in their new players. If it wasn't for Ron we wouldn't have travelled at all. Cost cutting maybe?[/p][/quote]Your absolutely right seed clubs travel to China, the US, Thailand, Dubai and all other corners of the globe in a shirt selling exercise. It has nothing to do with whats best for the players health and fitness or their family lives. Didn't I see that hoof lost to a new Zealand local side yesterday? How much 'promoting of their brand' would they have done over there? These clubs take their players all over the world and then complain they are tired! Coincidence? Can anyone explain to me how the fact we haven't travelled far has anything to do with what we spend on transfers? Surely not spending huge sums on a jaunt around the world means more money for other things! Oh and how is this years 'penny pinching' or 'cost cutting' trip much different to last years trip to Spain and Austria? Did last years trip cost so much more than this years? Wasn't NC in charge for last years? Was he cost cutting or did the team sleep in golden sheets and play with gold laced boots?[/p][/quote]Until Ron arrived we weren't going anywhere further than the south coast.[/p][/quote]Yep, a trip to a rugby mad nation of 4.5 million people on the other side of the world is really going to get the cash rolling in. I doubt it. The real money probably comes in when we get invited to 'tournaments' and when we are shown on terrestial TV week in week out and discussed on football programmes. The problem is that we would already have to be top 6 for those things to happen. Rising_Son
  • Score: 10

9:25am Thu 24 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saint christopher wrote:
So?
Clubs travel to promote their brand abroad and to create a camaraderie amongst their squad bedding in their new players. If it wasn't for Ron we wouldn't have travelled at all. Cost cutting maybe?
Your absolutely right seed clubs travel to China, the US, Thailand, Dubai and all other corners of the globe in a shirt selling exercise. It has nothing to do with whats best for the players health and fitness or their family lives. Didn't I see that hoof lost to a new Zealand local side yesterday? How much 'promoting of their brand' would they have done over there?
These clubs take their players all over the world and then complain they are tired! Coincidence?

Can anyone explain to me how the fact we haven't travelled far has anything to do with what we spend on transfers? Surely not spending huge sums on a jaunt around the world means more money for other things!

Oh and how is this years 'penny pinching' or 'cost cutting' trip much different to last years trip to Spain and Austria? Did last years trip cost so much more than this years? Wasn't NC in charge for last years? Was he cost cutting or did the team sleep in golden sheets and play with gold laced boots?
Until Ron arrived we weren't going anywhere further than the south coast.
Thats because the club have just invested £30mill into a new world class state of the art training facility and thought it might be a good idea to use it. Ronnie came in and wanted some extra games so a quick trip away was arranged probably using his contacts. Nothing sinister just a new manager wanting to have more of a look at his players in game conditions.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint christopher[/bold] wrote: So?[/p][/quote]Clubs travel to promote their brand abroad and to create a camaraderie amongst their squad bedding in their new players. If it wasn't for Ron we wouldn't have travelled at all. Cost cutting maybe?[/p][/quote]Your absolutely right seed clubs travel to China, the US, Thailand, Dubai and all other corners of the globe in a shirt selling exercise. It has nothing to do with whats best for the players health and fitness or their family lives. Didn't I see that hoof lost to a new Zealand local side yesterday? How much 'promoting of their brand' would they have done over there? These clubs take their players all over the world and then complain they are tired! Coincidence? Can anyone explain to me how the fact we haven't travelled far has anything to do with what we spend on transfers? Surely not spending huge sums on a jaunt around the world means more money for other things! Oh and how is this years 'penny pinching' or 'cost cutting' trip much different to last years trip to Spain and Austria? Did last years trip cost so much more than this years? Wasn't NC in charge for last years? Was he cost cutting or did the team sleep in golden sheets and play with gold laced boots?[/p][/quote]Until Ron arrived we weren't going anywhere further than the south coast.[/p][/quote]Thats because the club have just invested £30mill into a new world class state of the art training facility and thought it might be a good idea to use it. Ronnie came in and wanted some extra games so a quick trip away was arranged probably using his contacts. Nothing sinister just a new manager wanting to have more of a look at his players in game conditions. de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 28

9:28am Thu 24 Jul 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

I'm happy with the pre season results so far. But It would be good to grow the brand world wide. as long as Saints weren't to get a result in my country with the Hammers getting beat 2-1 by the Wellington Phoenix. I think people here will be buying more Phoenix shirts now. Thanks West Ham!
I'm happy with the pre season results so far. But It would be good to grow the brand world wide. as long as Saints weren't to get a result in my country with the Hammers getting beat 2-1 by the Wellington Phoenix. I think people here will be buying more Phoenix shirts now. Thanks West Ham! KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 11

9:32am Thu 24 Jul 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
I'm happy with the pre season results so far. But It would be good to grow the brand world wide. as long as Saints weren't to get a result in my country with the Hammers getting beat 2-1 by the Wellington Phoenix. I think people here will be buying more Phoenix shirts now. Thanks West Ham!
I'm happy with the pre season results so far. But It would be good to grow the brand world wide. as long as Saints weren't to get a result in my country like the Hammers getting beat 2-1 by the Wellington Phoenix. I think people here will be buying more Phoenix shirts now. Thanks West Ham!
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: I'm happy with the pre season results so far. But It would be good to grow the brand world wide. as long as Saints weren't to get a result in my country with the Hammers getting beat 2-1 by the Wellington Phoenix. I think people here will be buying more Phoenix shirts now. Thanks West Ham![/p][/quote]I'm happy with the pre season results so far. But It would be good to grow the brand world wide. as long as Saints weren't to get a result in my country like the Hammers getting beat 2-1 by the Wellington Phoenix. I think people here will be buying more Phoenix shirts now. Thanks West Ham! KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 11

9:45am Thu 24 Jul 14

THE12THMAN says...

Why travel half way around the world to play a friendly, it is better to spend 24 hours training than 24 hours on a plane, you don't get fit sat in a chair flying. What have air miles got to do with the premier league?
Why travel half way around the world to play a friendly, it is better to spend 24 hours training than 24 hours on a plane, you don't get fit sat in a chair flying. What have air miles got to do with the premier league? THE12THMAN
  • Score: 22

10:14am Thu 24 Jul 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

We've just finished a £30 million training centre...

We have the best facilities on our doorstep, it would be CRAZY not to use it for the build up of the new season!! We have friendlies around the south coast so fans can come along and make the trip at a reasonable cost... Seems like we're the only premier league club that are being clever about pre-season.
We've just finished a £30 million training centre... We have the best facilities on our doorstep, it would be CRAZY not to use it for the build up of the new season!! We have friendlies around the south coast so fans can come along and make the trip at a reasonable cost... Seems like we're the only premier league club that are being clever about pre-season. SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: 32

10:19am Thu 24 Jul 14

Rising_Son says...

SouthamptonLegend wrote:
We've just finished a £30 million training centre...

We have the best facilities on our doorstep, it would be CRAZY not to use it for the build up of the new season!! We have friendlies around the south coast so fans can come along and make the trip at a reasonable cost... Seems like we're the only premier league club that are being clever about pre-season.
Warrens is always saying that we need to expand out fan base in the south. Perhaps, this kind of preseason will help.
[quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote: We've just finished a £30 million training centre... We have the best facilities on our doorstep, it would be CRAZY not to use it for the build up of the new season!! We have friendlies around the south coast so fans can come along and make the trip at a reasonable cost... Seems like we're the only premier league club that are being clever about pre-season.[/p][/quote]Warrens is always saying that we need to expand out fan base in the south. Perhaps, this kind of preseason will help. Rising_Son
  • Score: 6

10:28am Thu 24 Jul 14

Crossley Place Saint says...

I agree with the comments above. The purpose of pre-season is about getting the players match fit, and helping the new signings to settle into the team. Not longhaul flights and jet lag.

BTW Ralph, what has become of the second "marquee friendly" you promised us? Or was that the game against the Belgian amateur side where the players got changed in a tent?
I agree with the comments above. The purpose of pre-season is about getting the players match fit, and helping the new signings to settle into the team. Not longhaul flights and jet lag. BTW Ralph, what has become of the second "marquee friendly" you promised us? Or was that the game against the Belgian amateur side where the players got changed in a tent? Crossley Place Saint
  • Score: -8

10:34am Thu 24 Jul 14

andysaints007 says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
Just another example of penny pinching and another reason not to believe Les Reed when he said ALL transfer income would be spent on improving the squad
PRATT
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: Just another example of penny pinching and another reason not to believe Les Reed when he said ALL transfer income would be spent on improving the squad[/p][/quote]PRATT andysaints007
  • Score: 2

10:56am Thu 24 Jul 14

bullsbags says...

It's all down to the clubs new environmental policy!
It's all down to the clubs new environmental policy! bullsbags
  • Score: 3

11:19am Thu 24 Jul 14

Rising_Son says...

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
I agree with the comments above. The purpose of pre-season is about getting the players match fit, and helping the new signings to settle into the team. Not longhaul flights and jet lag.

BTW Ralph, what has become of the second "marquee friendly" you promised us? Or was that the game against the Belgian amateur side where the players got changed in a tent?
Rather obviously it isn't going to happen. No problem for me, I wasn't going to go anyway.
[quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: I agree with the comments above. The purpose of pre-season is about getting the players match fit, and helping the new signings to settle into the team. Not longhaul flights and jet lag. BTW Ralph, what has become of the second "marquee friendly" you promised us? Or was that the game against the Belgian amateur side where the players got changed in a tent?[/p][/quote]Rather obviously it isn't going to happen. No problem for me, I wasn't going to go anyway. Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

12:07pm Thu 24 Jul 14

SaintJD says...

No doubt that this is about cutting costs, but it is also a refreshing advantage for us I think. Games in the US and Australia are clearly more about marketing than proper preparation and, with the World Cup draining players as well this is only going to lead to burn out for several teams and particularly those with several World Cup players or those in UEFA action later this year.

Our games in Norway or Spain were equally pointless in recent years bar bonding potentially, better to save your energy and time for the gym and playing against more English style opposition.

My only concern is the quality difference, particularly as Ron hasn't really seen the step up in quality we're going to face on day one.

I just hope he's not going to be fooled by the results and lack of goals conceded into thinking certain players are up for the task and can fill the boots of others, but that would have been the case whatever friendlies we were playing I guess.
No doubt that this is about cutting costs, but it is also a refreshing advantage for us I think. Games in the US and Australia are clearly more about marketing than proper preparation and, with the World Cup draining players as well this is only going to lead to burn out for several teams and particularly those with several World Cup players or those in UEFA action later this year. Our games in Norway or Spain were equally pointless in recent years bar bonding potentially, better to save your energy and time for the gym and playing against more English style opposition. My only concern is the quality difference, particularly as Ron hasn't really seen the step up in quality we're going to face on day one. I just hope he's not going to be fooled by the results and lack of goals conceded into thinking certain players are up for the task and can fill the boots of others, but that would have been the case whatever friendlies we were playing I guess. SaintJD
  • Score: 2

12:18pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Wembley76 says...

The best place for Ron, the staff and the players is to be close to 'home'....lot's of work to do, best to be close to base camp...not the other side of the world....I work extensively in Asia, and the impact of long haul travel on your body and mind can be quite negative and disorientating...muc
h better to have less travel, get new intake used to British football, and use the great new training facilities to get everyone up to the pace...and also, some of the players were involved in the W/Cup and will welcome avoiding more travel.....makes intelligent practical sense....not another opportunity to 'slag off' the board...
The best place for Ron, the staff and the players is to be close to 'home'....lot's of work to do, best to be close to base camp...not the other side of the world....I work extensively in Asia, and the impact of long haul travel on your body and mind can be quite negative and disorientating...muc h better to have less travel, get new intake used to British football, and use the great new training facilities to get everyone up to the pace...and also, some of the players were involved in the W/Cup and will welcome avoiding more travel.....makes intelligent practical sense....not another opportunity to 'slag off' the board... Wembley76
  • Score: 7

12:18pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Wembley76 says...

The best place for Ron, the staff and the players is to be close to 'home'....lot's of work to do, best to be close to base camp...not the other side of the world....I work extensively in Asia, and the impact of long haul travel on your body and mind can be quite negative and disorientating...muc
h better to have less travel, get new intake used to British football, and use the great new training facilities to get everyone up to the pace...and also, some of the players were involved in the W/Cup and will welcome avoiding more travel.....makes intelligent practical sense....not another opportunity to 'slag off' the board...
The best place for Ron, the staff and the players is to be close to 'home'....lot's of work to do, best to be close to base camp...not the other side of the world....I work extensively in Asia, and the impact of long haul travel on your body and mind can be quite negative and disorientating...muc h better to have less travel, get new intake used to British football, and use the great new training facilities to get everyone up to the pace...and also, some of the players were involved in the W/Cup and will welcome avoiding more travel.....makes intelligent practical sense....not another opportunity to 'slag off' the board... Wembley76
  • Score: 4

12:43pm Thu 24 Jul 14

the cowman says...

I blame it all on Guly and Fox. Oh no I need to find new scape goats now.
I blame it on Les and Freddy Kruger.

In all seriousness it was obviously a slow news day. lack of travel, a non transfer story about a player we are no longer interested in., talk about scraping the barrel for column inches.
Headline in the Echo sports pages tomorrow Stokes scores winner at Wembley.
I blame it all on Guly and Fox. Oh no I need to find new scape goats now. I blame it on Les and Freddy Kruger. In all seriousness it was obviously a slow news day. lack of travel, a non transfer story about a player we are no longer interested in., talk about scraping the barrel for column inches. Headline in the Echo sports pages tomorrow Stokes scores winner at Wembley. the cowman
  • Score: 3

1:17pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Outside of the Box says...

No wonder some of players left, nothing to do with Champions League football, massive transfers fee's or improved salaries, it's all down to them collecting Air Miles vouchers.

Must be a slow news day today.
No wonder some of players left, nothing to do with Champions League football, massive transfers fee's or improved salaries, it's all down to them collecting Air Miles vouchers. Must be a slow news day today. Outside of the Box
  • Score: 2

3:07pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Saintsayer II says...

andysaints007 wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
Just another example of penny pinching and another reason not to believe Les Reed when he said ALL transfer income would be spent on improving the squad
PRATT
Takes one to know one andy boy
[quote][p][bold]andysaints007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: Just another example of penny pinching and another reason not to believe Les Reed when he said ALL transfer income would be spent on improving the squad[/p][/quote]PRATT[/p][/quote]Takes one to know one andy boy Saintsayer II
  • Score: 4

3:39pm Thu 24 Jul 14

elvisimo says...

Ron appears to like the odd pie
Ron appears to like the odd pie elvisimo
  • Score: 0

4:30pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Alicesdad says...

I think Seedhouse is right. Its cost cutting. When MoPo arrived they were all off to Sapin to see the big grounds and train in the highest standard arenas. Now it seems we will have a quick trip to Holland and the rest will be done at home. It's OK to say we have fantastic training facilities but it doesn't cover the motivational aspects or the team/moral building.

Anyway.. we are where we are ..so lets keep it in perspective ... I suppose we now just need to get on with it. Plenty of people got a run out. Ron got to see the squad and many of them had a quick leg stretching session for 45 mins.
I think Seedhouse is right. Its cost cutting. When MoPo arrived they were all off to Sapin to see the big grounds and train in the highest standard arenas. Now it seems we will have a quick trip to Holland and the rest will be done at home. It's OK to say we have fantastic training facilities but it doesn't cover the motivational aspects or the team/moral building. Anyway.. we are where we are ..so lets keep it in perspective ... I suppose we now just need to get on with it. Plenty of people got a run out. Ron got to see the squad and many of them had a quick leg stretching session for 45 mins. Alicesdad
  • Score: 2

5:30pm Thu 24 Jul 14

redsnapper says...

One can always rely on the Echo scribblers to write one good article in 20. And this is number 20.

Do they have any brains at all in that office?
One can always rely on the Echo scribblers to write one good article in 20. And this is number 20. Do they have any brains at all in that office? redsnapper
  • Score: 2

5:56pm Thu 24 Jul 14

thesaint88 says...

Start as we meen to go on, bottom of the league with a b team, can't see any other way, hope I'm wrong
Start as we meen to go on, bottom of the league with a b team, can't see any other way, hope I'm wrong thesaint88
  • Score: 5

5:59pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Confucious says...

saint christopher wrote:
So?
On the one hand, I think it may mean we have travelled 23350 miles less than W Ham and Newcastle and 12350 less than Spuds and we could concede one goal per 5000 miles. - but hopefully, on t'other hand, it just means Spam, N'castle and Spuds will be knackered so we'll beat 'em.
[quote][p][bold]saint christopher[/bold] wrote: So?[/p][/quote]On the one hand, I think it may mean we have travelled 23350 miles less than W Ham and Newcastle and 12350 less than Spuds and we could concede one goal per 5000 miles. - but hopefully, on t'other hand, it just means Spam, N'castle and Spuds will be knackered so we'll beat 'em. Confucious
  • Score: 5

7:28pm Thu 24 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

thesaint88 wrote:
Start as we meen to go on, bottom of the league with a b team, can't see any other way, hope I'm wrong
Oh dear! First post? Not a good start is it?
[quote][p][bold]thesaint88[/bold] wrote: Start as we meen to go on, bottom of the league with a b team, can't see any other way, hope I'm wrong[/p][/quote]Oh dear! First post? Not a good start is it? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -9

11:36pm Thu 24 Jul 14

kingkong 1 says...

Is this meant to be a story, or have some point.
Is this meant to be a story, or have some point. kingkong 1
  • Score: -1

1:55am Fri 25 Jul 14

andoru says...

White and red till dead wrote:
No wonder all our stars left - no cushy pre-season knees-up.
“We are playing massive teams like Real Madrid,” Shaw said. “Last season, no disrespect to Southampton, but we would have been playing Championship and League One teams and now to come to the U.S. and play against teams like that is something I dreamed of when I was younger. I just can’t wait to get going.” Luke Shaw

It obviously matters to some. I think Shaw has completely missed the point of pre-season warm-ups though ...
[quote][p][bold]White and red till dead[/bold] wrote: No wonder all our stars left - no cushy pre-season knees-up.[/p][/quote]“We are playing massive teams like Real Madrid,” Shaw said. “Last season, no disrespect to Southampton, but we would have been playing Championship and League One teams and now to come to the U.S. and play against teams like that is something I dreamed of when I was younger. I just can’t wait to get going.” Luke Shaw It obviously matters to some. I think Shaw has completely missed the point of pre-season warm-ups though ... andoru
  • Score: 3

4:34am Fri 25 Jul 14

Rising_Son says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
andysaints007 wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
Just another example of penny pinching and another reason not to believe Les Reed when he said ALL transfer income would be spent on improving the squad
PRATT
Takes one to know one andy boy
Thanks for letting us know you're a pratt. I would never have known otherwise.
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andysaints007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: Just another example of penny pinching and another reason not to believe Les Reed when he said ALL transfer income would be spent on improving the squad[/p][/quote]PRATT[/p][/quote]Takes one to know one andy boy[/p][/quote]Thanks for letting us know you're a pratt. I would never have known otherwise. Rising_Son
  • Score: -1

11:08am Fri 25 Jul 14

jls217 says...

On another topic on this forum people were getting all bent out of common sensical shape over a business plan or supposedly Saints lack of one (They seemed serious about it too - I don't think they were taking the mickey). I doubt if figures on that plan (if such a thing exists of course) that we must strive to be top of the PL air miles chart or we will lose fans and credibility.
Outwardly I may be crying, inwardly I am merely peeing myself with laughter.
Players are to get to and from the stadium using public transport only and they will enjoy the smell of urine or face disciplinary action. Ferraris, Bentleys and Range Rovers are banned forthwith. All football attire will be purchased from Matalan and only Bata boots will be tolerated. All catering will be supplied by Morrison's own savers brand. Toilets will be flushed once a day only. Showers will ave running cold water only. Training will be cut by two hours a day and staff will be laid off. There are no end of cost cutting ploys I would subject these pampered, prima donna players to if I had my say in the "Business Plan" especially the non existent variety so many seem to think is the one we're following.
I'm going for a drink - I can only tolerate so much pig ignorant, close minded, idiotic, ill considered, negative at all costs, blx in any one visit to the forum.
On another topic on this forum people were getting all bent out of common sensical shape over a business plan or supposedly Saints lack of one (They seemed serious about it too - I don't think they were taking the mickey). I doubt if figures on that plan (if such a thing exists of course) that we must strive to be top of the PL air miles chart or we will lose fans and credibility. Outwardly I may be crying, inwardly I am merely peeing myself with laughter. Players are to get to and from the stadium using public transport only and they will enjoy the smell of urine or face disciplinary action. Ferraris, Bentleys and Range Rovers are banned forthwith. All football attire will be purchased from Matalan and only Bata boots will be tolerated. All catering will be supplied by Morrison's own savers brand. Toilets will be flushed once a day only. Showers will ave running cold water only. Training will be cut by two hours a day and staff will be laid off. There are no end of cost cutting ploys I would subject these pampered, prima donna players to if I had my say in the "Business Plan" especially the non existent variety so many seem to think is the one we're following. I'm going for a drink - I can only tolerate so much pig ignorant, close minded, idiotic, ill considered, negative at all costs, blx in any one visit to the forum. jls217
  • Score: -5

11:14am Fri 25 Jul 14

jls217 says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saint christopher wrote:
So?
Clubs travel to promote their brand abroad and to create a camaraderie amongst their squad bedding in their new players. If it wasn't for Ron we wouldn't have travelled at all. Cost cutting maybe?
Your absolutely right seed clubs travel to China, the US, Thailand, Dubai and all other corners of the globe in a shirt selling exercise. It has nothing to do with whats best for the players health and fitness or their family lives. Didn't I see that hoof lost to a new Zealand local side yesterday? How much 'promoting of their brand' would they have done over there?
These clubs take their players all over the world and then complain they are tired! Coincidence?

Can anyone explain to me how the fact we haven't travelled far has anything to do with what we spend on transfers? Surely not spending huge sums on a jaunt around the world means more money for other things!

Oh and how is this years 'penny pinching' or 'cost cutting' trip much different to last years trip to Spain and Austria? Did last years trip cost so much more than this years? Wasn't NC in charge for last years? Was he cost cutting or did the team sleep in golden sheets and play with gold laced boots?
Until Ron arrived we weren't going anywhere further than the south coast.
Thats because the club have just invested £30mill into a new world class state of the art training facility and thought it might be a good idea to use it. Ronnie came in and wanted some extra games so a quick trip away was arranged probably using his contacts. Nothing sinister just a new manager wanting to have more of a look at his players in game conditions.
De Heiligen - How dare you suggest there is nothing sinister going on inside St Mary's dungeons. There are people who rely on the doom and gloom conspiracies as their reason for being, their life blood, their very existence. You will be responsible for a great many suicides over the following month because of that one inappropriate statement - How dare you ruin decades of black magic, witchcraft, sorcery and spell making behind those dark and evil walls. HERETIC! HERETIC!
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint christopher[/bold] wrote: So?[/p][/quote]Clubs travel to promote their brand abroad and to create a camaraderie amongst their squad bedding in their new players. If it wasn't for Ron we wouldn't have travelled at all. Cost cutting maybe?[/p][/quote]Your absolutely right seed clubs travel to China, the US, Thailand, Dubai and all other corners of the globe in a shirt selling exercise. It has nothing to do with whats best for the players health and fitness or their family lives. Didn't I see that hoof lost to a new Zealand local side yesterday? How much 'promoting of their brand' would they have done over there? These clubs take their players all over the world and then complain they are tired! Coincidence? Can anyone explain to me how the fact we haven't travelled far has anything to do with what we spend on transfers? Surely not spending huge sums on a jaunt around the world means more money for other things! Oh and how is this years 'penny pinching' or 'cost cutting' trip much different to last years trip to Spain and Austria? Did last years trip cost so much more than this years? Wasn't NC in charge for last years? Was he cost cutting or did the team sleep in golden sheets and play with gold laced boots?[/p][/quote]Until Ron arrived we weren't going anywhere further than the south coast.[/p][/quote]Thats because the club have just invested £30mill into a new world class state of the art training facility and thought it might be a good idea to use it. Ronnie came in and wanted some extra games so a quick trip away was arranged probably using his contacts. Nothing sinister just a new manager wanting to have more of a look at his players in game conditions.[/p][/quote]De Heiligen - How dare you suggest there is nothing sinister going on inside St Mary's dungeons. There are people who rely on the doom and gloom conspiracies as their reason for being, their life blood, their very existence. You will be responsible for a great many suicides over the following month because of that one inappropriate statement - How dare you ruin decades of black magic, witchcraft, sorcery and spell making behind those dark and evil walls. HERETIC! HERETIC! jls217
  • Score: -5

11:44am Fri 25 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

jls217 wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saint christopher wrote:
So?
Clubs travel to promote their brand abroad and to create a camaraderie amongst their squad bedding in their new players. If it wasn't for Ron we wouldn't have travelled at all. Cost cutting maybe?
Your absolutely right seed clubs travel to China, the US, Thailand, Dubai and all other corners of the globe in a shirt selling exercise. It has nothing to do with whats best for the players health and fitness or their family lives. Didn't I see that hoof lost to a new Zealand local side yesterday? How much 'promoting of their brand' would they have done over there?
These clubs take their players all over the world and then complain they are tired! Coincidence?

Can anyone explain to me how the fact we haven't travelled far has anything to do with what we spend on transfers? Surely not spending huge sums on a jaunt around the world means more money for other things!

Oh and how is this years 'penny pinching' or 'cost cutting' trip much different to last years trip to Spain and Austria? Did last years trip cost so much more than this years? Wasn't NC in charge for last years? Was he cost cutting or did the team sleep in golden sheets and play with gold laced boots?
Until Ron arrived we weren't going anywhere further than the south coast.
Thats because the club have just invested £30mill into a new world class state of the art training facility and thought it might be a good idea to use it. Ronnie came in and wanted some extra games so a quick trip away was arranged probably using his contacts. Nothing sinister just a new manager wanting to have more of a look at his players in game conditions.
De Heiligen - How dare you suggest there is nothing sinister going on inside St Mary's dungeons. There are people who rely on the doom and gloom conspiracies as their reason for being, their life blood, their very existence. You will be responsible for a great many suicides over the following month because of that one inappropriate statement - How dare you ruin decades of black magic, witchcraft, sorcery and spell making behind those dark and evil walls. HERETIC! HERETIC!
lol.
I was thinking of changing my mind and becoming all neggie so that the popular people would like me and give me loads of thumbs up!
then I realised I just don't care!
I`m surprised that the itchen bridge hasn't had a queue of people lined up to take their turn all because 3 players have been sold.
whats that old saying? no news is good news. well it appears some think its all news if life shatteringly bad news.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint christopher[/bold] wrote: So?[/p][/quote]Clubs travel to promote their brand abroad and to create a camaraderie amongst their squad bedding in their new players. If it wasn't for Ron we wouldn't have travelled at all. Cost cutting maybe?[/p][/quote]Your absolutely right seed clubs travel to China, the US, Thailand, Dubai and all other corners of the globe in a shirt selling exercise. It has nothing to do with whats best for the players health and fitness or their family lives. Didn't I see that hoof lost to a new Zealand local side yesterday? How much 'promoting of their brand' would they have done over there? These clubs take their players all over the world and then complain they are tired! Coincidence? Can anyone explain to me how the fact we haven't travelled far has anything to do with what we spend on transfers? Surely not spending huge sums on a jaunt around the world means more money for other things! Oh and how is this years 'penny pinching' or 'cost cutting' trip much different to last years trip to Spain and Austria? Did last years trip cost so much more than this years? Wasn't NC in charge for last years? Was he cost cutting or did the team sleep in golden sheets and play with gold laced boots?[/p][/quote]Until Ron arrived we weren't going anywhere further than the south coast.[/p][/quote]Thats because the club have just invested £30mill into a new world class state of the art training facility and thought it might be a good idea to use it. Ronnie came in and wanted some extra games so a quick trip away was arranged probably using his contacts. Nothing sinister just a new manager wanting to have more of a look at his players in game conditions.[/p][/quote]De Heiligen - How dare you suggest there is nothing sinister going on inside St Mary's dungeons. There are people who rely on the doom and gloom conspiracies as their reason for being, their life blood, their very existence. You will be responsible for a great many suicides over the following month because of that one inappropriate statement - How dare you ruin decades of black magic, witchcraft, sorcery and spell making behind those dark and evil walls. HERETIC! HERETIC![/p][/quote]lol. I was thinking of changing my mind and becoming all neggie so that the popular people would like me and give me loads of thumbs up! then I realised I just don't care! I`m surprised that the itchen bridge hasn't had a queue of people lined up to take their turn all because 3 players have been sold. whats that old saying? no news is good news. well it appears some think its all news if life shatteringly bad news. de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: -4

2:01pm Fri 25 Jul 14

jls217 says...

So that's the queue on the bridge - I thought it was roadworks not the Saints euthenasia counselling and noose making classes in full swing.
I don't even mind some of the negatives (we can all fall into that trap just before self immolation from time to time can't we?) if those negatives are thought through logically and presented in a fashion that an English speaker doesn't have to call in a 9 year old to translate it, like innit bro.
I try to be positive (and sometimes fail) and to read an opposite gives food for thought sometimes but this mindless sack the board, we're doomed, she's arsehole stripping the club, the new toilet paper doesn't have stripes in it. Save me please!
There appears to be a little clique or the same sorry personality disorder discussing it with the voices in his head, who is giving multiple thumbs down to anything which doesn't fit into his/their idea of what should be discussed on a Southampton forum. Find it's best to ignore them mate. Bad news give them the excuse to hit the prescribed sunshine pills I think. Just off to do a bit of research into whether the best results are from cutting the femoral, carotid or wrists - any advice you have for me before I go?
Keep smiling mate if we give in to the Zombies around the town we are well and truly stuffed.
Next topic please - Why do we need a highly qualified, trained, skilled and motivated team in St Mary's when there is a forum of doom brains willing to run the club for nothing from the pub?
See - they've convinced me - boredom out, sack the boredom, low IQ's line up at the bridge, accountants required - no quals necessary - just swear and shake your head frequently, fancy a go at manager - only those with foreign sounding names need apply, Kruger's a failed psycho killer, Les for chief programme seller! go Les go Les go Les. Skiverpool have put in a bid for the statue out front - they've been tapping him for a couple of seasons now.
Sod it going for a beer!
So that's the queue on the bridge - I thought it was roadworks not the Saints euthenasia counselling and noose making classes in full swing. I don't even mind some of the negatives (we can all fall into that trap just before self immolation from time to time can't we?) if those negatives are thought through logically and presented in a fashion that an English speaker doesn't have to call in a 9 year old to translate it, like innit bro. I try to be positive (and sometimes fail) and to read an opposite gives food for thought sometimes but this mindless sack the board, we're doomed, she's arsehole stripping the club, the new toilet paper doesn't have stripes in it. Save me please! There appears to be a little clique or the same sorry personality disorder discussing it with the voices in his head, who is giving multiple thumbs down to anything which doesn't fit into his/their idea of what should be discussed on a Southampton forum. Find it's best to ignore them mate. Bad news give them the excuse to hit the prescribed sunshine pills I think. Just off to do a bit of research into whether the best results are from cutting the femoral, carotid or wrists - any advice you have for me before I go? Keep smiling mate if we give in to the Zombies around the town we are well and truly stuffed. Next topic please - Why do we need a highly qualified, trained, skilled and motivated team in St Mary's when there is a forum of doom brains willing to run the club for nothing from the pub? See - they've convinced me - boredom out, sack the boredom, low IQ's line up at the bridge, accountants required - no quals necessary - just swear and shake your head frequently, fancy a go at manager - only those with foreign sounding names need apply, Kruger's a failed psycho killer, Les for chief programme seller! go Les go Les go Les. Skiverpool have put in a bid for the statue out front - they've been tapping him for a couple of seasons now. Sod it going for a beer! jls217
  • Score: -4

2:14pm Fri 25 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Alicesdad wrote:
I think Seedhouse is right. Its cost cutting. When MoPo arrived they were all off to Sapin to see the big grounds and train in the highest standard arenas. Now it seems we will have a quick trip to Holland and the rest will be done at home. It's OK to say we have fantastic training facilities but it doesn't cover the motivational aspects or the team/moral building.

Anyway.. we are where we are ..so lets keep it in perspective ... I suppose we now just need to get on with it. Plenty of people got a run out. Ron got to see the squad and many of them had a quick leg stretching session for 45 mins.
They get paid how much?

Does that not motivate them sufficiently then?

What's that they get more in a week than most fans do in a year?

Does talking about how many houses they can buy or the colour of their latest Bentley not build the team spirit, their sense of camaraderie or should that be superiority, or their gratitude to the fans or is that disdain it builds.
So many questions, I'm off to New Zealand to see what I can sell and try to work this all out.
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: I think Seedhouse is right. Its cost cutting. When MoPo arrived they were all off to Sapin to see the big grounds and train in the highest standard arenas. Now it seems we will have a quick trip to Holland and the rest will be done at home. It's OK to say we have fantastic training facilities but it doesn't cover the motivational aspects or the team/moral building. Anyway.. we are where we are ..so lets keep it in perspective ... I suppose we now just need to get on with it. Plenty of people got a run out. Ron got to see the squad and many of them had a quick leg stretching session for 45 mins.[/p][/quote]They get paid how much? Does that not motivate them sufficiently then? What's that they get more in a week than most fans do in a year? Does talking about how many houses they can buy or the colour of their latest Bentley not build the team spirit, their sense of camaraderie or should that be superiority, or their gratitude to the fans or is that disdain it builds. So many questions, I'm off to New Zealand to see what I can sell and try to work this all out. jls217
  • Score: -2

2:17pm Fri 25 Jul 14

jls217 says...

redsnapper wrote:
One can always rely on the Echo scribblers to write one good article in 20. And this is number 20.

Do they have any brains at all in that office?
A couple more than us dozy booogers reading and commenting on it it seems.
[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: One can always rely on the Echo scribblers to write one good article in 20. And this is number 20. Do they have any brains at all in that office?[/p][/quote]A couple more than us dozy booogers reading and commenting on it it seems. jls217
  • Score: -1

2:19pm Fri 25 Jul 14

jls217 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thesaint88 wrote:
Start as we meen to go on, bottom of the league with a b team, can't see any other way, hope I'm wrong
Oh dear! First post? Not a good start is it?
88 read some of Seedhouses posts - be makes you look like a hopelessly romantic optimist.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thesaint88[/bold] wrote: Start as we meen to go on, bottom of the league with a b team, can't see any other way, hope I'm wrong[/p][/quote]Oh dear! First post? Not a good start is it?[/p][/quote]88 read some of Seedhouses posts - be makes you look like a hopelessly romantic optimist. jls217
  • Score: -2

2:20pm Fri 25 Jul 14

jls217 says...

kingkong 1 wrote:
Is this meant to be a story, or have some point.
Whatever it's content worked - it got you posting and me replying.
Job done.
[quote][p][bold]kingkong 1[/bold] wrote: Is this meant to be a story, or have some point.[/p][/quote]Whatever it's content worked - it got you posting and me replying. Job done. jls217
  • Score: -1

2:24pm Fri 25 Jul 14

jls217 says...

andoru wrote:
White and red till dead wrote:
No wonder all our stars left - no cushy pre-season knees-up.
“We are playing massive teams like Real Madrid,” Shaw said. “Last season, no disrespect to Southampton, but we would have been playing Championship and League One teams and now to come to the U.S. and play against teams like that is something I dreamed of when I was younger. I just can’t wait to get going.” Luke Shaw

It obviously matters to some. I think Shaw has completely missed the point of pre-season warm-ups though ...
Not the sharpest tool in the box is he. Still, gives him a chance of checking if there's a replay of that threesome going. Warm - ups are all about the amount you put in.
[quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]White and red till dead[/bold] wrote: No wonder all our stars left - no cushy pre-season knees-up.[/p][/quote]“We are playing massive teams like Real Madrid,” Shaw said. “Last season, no disrespect to Southampton, but we would have been playing Championship and League One teams and now to come to the U.S. and play against teams like that is something I dreamed of when I was younger. I just can’t wait to get going.” Luke Shaw It obviously matters to some. I think Shaw has completely missed the point of pre-season warm-ups though ...[/p][/quote]Not the sharpest tool in the box is he. Still, gives him a chance of checking if there's a replay of that threesome going. Warm - ups are all about the amount you put in. jls217
  • Score: -2

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