Jose Fonte lined up for new deal and Southampton FC captaincy

JOSE FONTE

JOSE FONTE

First published in Sport Basingstoke Gazette: Photograph of the Author by , Senior Sports Reporter

Jose Fonte is the leading contender to replace Adam Lallana as Saints’ team captain this season – while a new deal is set to be offered to the defender.

The centre half, who is out of contract next year and is currently being pursued by Cardiff, has worn the armband at some stage during all three of Saints’ pre-season friendly matches this summer.

Ronald Koeman confirmed after Monday’s 1-0 win at Swindon that he had not made a final decision on who would be given the role this term, but he hinted that Fonte is the favourite, with Steven Davis – who captains Northern Ireland – as the next option.

The Saints manager also suggested that new contract offers for Fonte and midfielder Jack Cork could be in the pipeline, with both players due to become free agents in a year’s time.

“We know they are important players for us, and the club will do everything to keep all the best players,” he said, when asked if fresh deals were to be handed to them.

It is understood some communication has already taken place over the possibility of extending Fonte’s stay by a further two years.

Saints have already rejected one bid from Cardiff for Fonte, and the Championship club were last week planning another approach.

But, while they have plenty of financial power, it is unlikely they will be able to tempt the St Mary’s board into selling, especially with the likely exit of Dejan Lovren.

Cork is also attracting interest from a number of Premier League clubs, with Leicester the latest to send a scout to watch him, in the win at Swindon.

The 25-year-old again faces significant competition for a regular place in the starting line-up this term, with fellow defensive midfielders Morgan Schneiderlin and Victor Wanyama still in place, while 19-year-old Harrison Reed is emerging as a serious contender ahead of the new season.

On the skipper front, Koeman said that goalkeeper Kelvin Davis will remain as club captain, and that the 37-year-old is the undoubted leader of the group.

But he wishes to continue with the policy of an outfield player being given the armband on matchdays, although he will not publicly confirm his decision on who will be chosen until the start of the Premier League season.

“I am thinking about that, but first of all the captain is Kelvin Davis,” he said. “Kelvin Davis is the captain of the club, he is the captain in the dressing room.

“But I prefer to have the captain in the field, as a player, and that makes that decision that Jose is the captain – maybe Steven Davis, when Jose was not playing – but finally I will make the decision to everybody when we start the season.”

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6:55am Wed 23 Jul 14

InsideOutCat says...

Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening? InsideOutCat
  • Score: 48

6:58am Wed 23 Jul 14

Buddy SFC says...

Top Man Jose , the absolute warrior who sum's up the last few years, he has steadily improved his performance , year by year !! Never more deserved ..................

Just hope this doesn't mean Morgan is on his way out ........
Top Man Jose , the absolute warrior who sum's up the last few years, he has steadily improved his performance , year by year !! Never more deserved .................. Just hope this doesn't mean Morgan is on his way out ........ Buddy SFC
  • Score: 36

6:58am Wed 23 Jul 14

Rupert Lowe's Backside says...

Sorry I may sound conspiratorial here, but not offering Morgan the captaincy may mean that he is on the way out? Apart from KD, Fonte 'feels' the obvious choice; but couldnt the captaincy been used as a bargaining chip for Morgan's loyalty?

Get Spiderman and Cork signed ASAP

COYR and whites stripes!
Sorry I may sound conspiratorial here, but not offering Morgan the captaincy may mean that he is on the way out? Apart from KD, Fonte 'feels' the obvious choice; but couldnt the captaincy been used as a bargaining chip for Morgan's loyalty? Get Spiderman and Cork signed ASAP COYR and whites stripes! Rupert Lowe's Backside
  • Score: 9

7:07am Wed 23 Jul 14

Sammy2sheds says...

InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
How has he shown a calm head?
He has shown he is indecisive yes but calm? No.
[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]How has he shown a calm head? He has shown he is indecisive yes but calm? No. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 25

7:17am Wed 23 Jul 14

peregrine73 says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
How has he shown a calm head?
He has shown he is indecisive yes but calm? No.
It makes sense making him captain,as with other senior members still to depart,he will be one of a few left from last season with depth of experience
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]How has he shown a calm head? He has shown he is indecisive yes but calm? No.[/p][/quote]It makes sense making him captain,as with other senior members still to depart,he will be one of a few left from last season with depth of experience peregrine73
  • Score: -2

7:25am Wed 23 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Fonte has the attributes of a captain for sure. But what everyone seems to have forgotten is that of the three additions identified at the end of last season one was a CB to relegate Jose to the bench. Whilst a whole hearted defender, and greatly improved alongside Lovren, his lack of pace means he gets turned and has to grab shirts. How will he captain from the bench or is this official confirmation that the ambition has indeed gone?
Fonte has the attributes of a captain for sure. But what everyone seems to have forgotten is that of the three additions identified at the end of last season one was a CB to relegate Jose to the bench. Whilst a whole hearted defender, and greatly improved alongside Lovren, his lack of pace means he gets turned and has to grab shirts. How will he captain from the bench or is this official confirmation that the ambition has indeed gone? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -4

7:29am Wed 23 Jul 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Sadly this is an acknowledgement that Morgan is going to London next week and offering the captaincy to Jose is an attempt to stop him leaving.
Fonte knows we were looking to bring in a better CB to partner Lovren and will possibly still be bringing two CB's in, so making him captain when he may not not be a first choice is a strange choice but understandable as there are few candidates left.

Also sad that we missed out on Stephen Caulker who should have been signed up a month ago with Fonte going the other way, although Cardiff do still want to sign him.

Les Reed is busy with all the sales & trying to offer new contracts to our current players to try and keep them, J-Rod will not sign the new one Les offered him at the moment, but Les MUST spend more time to start bringing new players in, which is now more of a priority.

Forster, Redmond, De Vrij, Vlaar, Clasie and the best Striker we can get would make things look more positive for everyone.

COYS
Sadly this is an acknowledgement that Morgan is going to London next week and offering the captaincy to Jose is an attempt to stop him leaving. Fonte knows we were looking to bring in a better CB to partner Lovren and will possibly still be bringing two CB's in, so making him captain when he may not not be a first choice is a strange choice but understandable as there are few candidates left. Also sad that we missed out on Stephen Caulker who should have been signed up a month ago with Fonte going the other way, although Cardiff do still want to sign him. Les Reed is busy with all the sales & trying to offer new contracts to our current players to try and keep them, J-Rod will not sign the new one Les offered him at the moment, but Les MUST spend more time to start bringing new players in, which is now more of a priority. Forster, Redmond, De Vrij, Vlaar, Clasie and the best Striker we can get would make things look more positive for everyone. COYS NC Fan4Life
  • Score: -1

7:34am Wed 23 Jul 14

thesaint88 says...

I don't know why they don't give the captains armband to one of the 12 year olds in the youth set up because at least we know he will be here at the start of the season!!
I don't know why they don't give the captains armband to one of the 12 year olds in the youth set up because at least we know he will be here at the start of the season!! thesaint88
  • Score: 4

7:45am Wed 23 Jul 14

Chapperall says...

How people can read into this that Spider is lined up for a move is beyond me. This post is just rumours about a possible captaincy for Fonte. At least he has been loyal to Saints and not had his head turned so good to hear new contracts being offered to him and Cork.
I personally can see Lovren going as he is not behind Saints and is just chasing a big money move, however I sense RK will dig his heels in that there are no more moves.
I would agree it's been a terrible closed season for us Saints supporters but we have a good experienced manager lets get behind him and support him as he has a rebuilding job to do to maintain our progress in the PL.
How people can read into this that Spider is lined up for a move is beyond me. This post is just rumours about a possible captaincy for Fonte. At least he has been loyal to Saints and not had his head turned so good to hear new contracts being offered to him and Cork. I personally can see Lovren going as he is not behind Saints and is just chasing a big money move, however I sense RK will dig his heels in that there are no more moves. I would agree it's been a terrible closed season for us Saints supporters but we have a good experienced manager lets get behind him and support him as he has a rebuilding job to do to maintain our progress in the PL. Chapperall
  • Score: 10

7:46am Wed 23 Jul 14

Harold K Steptoe says...

It's because he's the only player not off to Pool, Spurs or Arse .
It's because he's the only player not off to Pool, Spurs or Arse . Harold K Steptoe
  • Score: -5

7:47am Wed 23 Jul 14

Crossley Place Saint says...

thesaint88 wrote:
I don't know why they don't give the captains armband to one of the 12 year olds in the youth set up because at least we know he will be here at the start of the season!!
Breaking news: "I've always dreamed of playing at Anfield", says Saints 12-year-old as Liverpool make another transfer swoop....
[quote][p][bold]thesaint88[/bold] wrote: I don't know why they don't give the captains armband to one of the 12 year olds in the youth set up because at least we know he will be here at the start of the season!![/p][/quote]Breaking news: "I've always dreamed of playing at Anfield", says Saints 12-year-old as Liverpool make another transfer swoop.... Crossley Place Saint
  • Score: 15

7:49am Wed 23 Jul 14

redandy10 says...

Even before the end of last season it was evident that we needed to strengthen a few areas. Now you add to this the losing of players and you have a lot of areas that we still need to fill and strengthen. So it's imperative that new players are brought in sooner RATHER than later. They'll need time to bed in and learn whatever system we end up playing. The new season is a matter of weeks away and we have no depth to our squad or even a good starting eleven.

A GK is urgently needed to push Art, and as we have learned to our cost Gazza isn't anywhere near ready and should be loaned out for his own good.

The CB position really worries me, Lovren was solid and now he's off. We need TWO quality CBs and fast. What we have in this area in NOT ADEQUATE!!!

And most other positions need firming up, so it's a little frustrating that with the new season around the corner we haven't seen more incoming players.

Most importantly NOW IS NOT THE TIME FOR US TO BE TIGHT IN THE TRANSFER MARKET, WE SHOULD BE SPENDING WHAT WE GOT FROM THE SELL OF PLAYERS AND THEN SOME!!!!!!!!
Even before the end of last season it was evident that we needed to strengthen a few areas. Now you add to this the losing of players and you have a lot of areas that we still need to fill and strengthen. So it's imperative that new players are brought in sooner RATHER than later. They'll need time to bed in and learn whatever system we end up playing. The new season is a matter of weeks away and we have no depth to our squad or even a good starting eleven. A GK is urgently needed to push Art, and as we have learned to our cost Gazza isn't anywhere near ready and should be loaned out for his own good. The CB position really worries me, Lovren was solid and now he's off. We need TWO quality CBs and fast. What we have in this area in NOT ADEQUATE!!! And most other positions need firming up, so it's a little frustrating that with the new season around the corner we haven't seen more incoming players. Most importantly NOW IS NOT THE TIME FOR US TO BE TIGHT IN THE TRANSFER MARKET, WE SHOULD BE SPENDING WHAT WE GOT FROM THE SELL OF PLAYERS AND THEN SOME!!!!!!!! redandy10
  • Score: 12

7:53am Wed 23 Jul 14

justaSaintsfan says...

InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: 33

7:56am Wed 23 Jul 14

Chipmonk1 says...

Rupert Lowe's Backside wrote:
Sorry I may sound conspiratorial here, but not offering Morgan the captaincy may mean that he is on the way out? Apart from KD, Fonte 'feels' the obvious choice; but couldnt the captaincy been used as a bargaining chip for Morgan's loyalty?

Get Spiderman and Cork signed ASAP

COYR and whites stripes!
I thought Spider would be obvious choice because he would be first name on the team sheet. But RoKo hasn't had a chance to see his leadership skills and at 24 maybe Spider doesn't even want the captaincy. Fonte may not be the best CB in the PL but I don't think anyone would doubt his passion playing for Saints or the respect he must have from the other players and the powers that be given RoKo has made it clear Osvaldo will likely never play for Saints again.
[quote][p][bold]Rupert Lowe's Backside[/bold] wrote: Sorry I may sound conspiratorial here, but not offering Morgan the captaincy may mean that he is on the way out? Apart from KD, Fonte 'feels' the obvious choice; but couldnt the captaincy been used as a bargaining chip for Morgan's loyalty? Get Spiderman and Cork signed ASAP COYR and whites stripes![/p][/quote]I thought Spider would be obvious choice because he would be first name on the team sheet. But RoKo hasn't had a chance to see his leadership skills and at 24 maybe Spider doesn't even want the captaincy. Fonte may not be the best CB in the PL but I don't think anyone would doubt his passion playing for Saints or the respect he must have from the other players and the powers that be given RoKo has made it clear Osvaldo will likely never play for Saints again. Chipmonk1
  • Score: 6

8:06am Wed 23 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

justaSaintsfan wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
[quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!![/p][/quote]There are none so blind as those who will not see. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -8

8:08am Wed 23 Jul 14

BarnetSaint says...

Has there been any word from Kruger or Reed?
It would be quite reassuring to hear something positive from them!
Has there been any word from Kruger or Reed? It would be quite reassuring to hear something positive from them! BarnetSaint
  • Score: -2

8:14am Wed 23 Jul 14

costa gaz says...

Schneiderlin has always been the leader on the pitch, he should get the armband 100%. Without wishing to sound negative, I have a sneaky suspicion he might be off to North London
Before the turmoil started I would have thought that Fonte would hardly get a start for this coming season, due to better players being signed, now looks like he'll start most games.

But hey ho, keep believing there is not a problem if you want.
Schneiderlin has always been the leader on the pitch, he should get the armband 100%. Without wishing to sound negative, I have a sneaky suspicion he might be off to North London Before the turmoil started I would have thought that Fonte would hardly get a start for this coming season, due to better players being signed, now looks like he'll start most games. But hey ho, keep believing there is not a problem if you want. costa gaz
  • Score: 5

8:15am Wed 23 Jul 14

justaSaintsfan says...

Harold K Steptoe wrote:
It's because he's the only player not off to Pool, Spurs or Arse .
According to you, Saints will have only one player next season! Every game will therefore be forfeited and the club will be relegated, with a record points haul of zero.

Are you going to tell us next that your horse, Hercules, has died?

Please hang in there. Life will go on. Saints will get the required new players. You can get a new horse! Positivity is the only sensible way to go.

I hope the rag and bone trade soon improves for you, Harold!
[quote][p][bold]Harold K Steptoe[/bold] wrote: It's because he's the only player not off to Pool, Spurs or Arse .[/p][/quote]According to you, Saints will have only one player next season! Every game will therefore be forfeited and the club will be relegated, with a record points haul of zero. Are you going to tell us next that your horse, Hercules, has died? Please hang in there. Life will go on. Saints will get the required new players. You can get a new horse! Positivity is the only sensible way to go. I hope the rag and bone trade soon improves for you, Harold! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: 3

8:16am Wed 23 Jul 14

Berkshire Saint says...

justaSaintsfan wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
The point most people are making is that it's difficult to remain calm and see the bigger picture when 90% of news surrounding Saints involves our best players leaving before replacements have been brought in. We all sincerely hope that it works out for Ron but we've gone from needing one or two new additions to strengthen the team to a rebuilding exercise. We're just fearful that we won't hit the ground running in 3 weeks time.
[quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!![/p][/quote]The point most people are making is that it's difficult to remain calm and see the bigger picture when 90% of news surrounding Saints involves our best players leaving before replacements have been brought in. We all sincerely hope that it works out for Ron but we've gone from needing one or two new additions to strengthen the team to a rebuilding exercise. We're just fearful that we won't hit the ground running in 3 weeks time. Berkshire Saint
  • Score: 5

8:19am Wed 23 Jul 14

justaSaintsfan says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!![/p][/quote]There are none so blind as those who will not see.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: 0

8:23am Wed 23 Jul 14

saintbobby says...

If Morgan does go as well as Lovren, then Saints will have seen a greater destruction of a team than has ever happened to a non-relegated club in the history of the Premier League, at least.

We have 2 promising new players but urgently need some more, both for giving us a likely team but also to calm a few nerves on here.

I do hope we never get another close season like this. Not surprising some on here sound desperate at times. But then, 3 points at Anfield could cheer us up. To do that Saints still need some additions - a bit quick!
If Morgan does go as well as Lovren, then Saints will have seen a greater destruction of a team than has ever happened to a non-relegated club in the history of the Premier League, at least. We have 2 promising new players but urgently need some more, both for giving us a likely team but also to calm a few nerves on here. I do hope we never get another close season like this. Not surprising some on here sound desperate at times. But then, 3 points at Anfield could cheer us up. To do that Saints still need some additions - a bit quick! saintbobby
  • Score: 5

8:25am Wed 23 Jul 14

milton road says...

Maybe the talking is best left to Koeman he doesn't put his foot in it every time he opens his mouth.
Morgan is linked with Spurs simply because Poch is there, not necessarily because there is any real action on that front. Arsenal have been put off by the price tag for now and are looking elsewhere. Spurs are awash with midfield players and atackers. They also have a limited transfer budget. Not sure ther is any real truth in these stories though the betting has it as a foregone conclusion.
Liverpool have said there was a 20 mil deal on the table for Lovren and its basically take it or leave it.
As for Kelvin as club captain still good news steady loyal head
Fonte or Davis would be a good captain. Though Hull are also said to be going to make a move for Fonte.
A lot of the unsettlement within the club has been media and agent inspired, its escalated because the media has nothing else to do but create havoc and it seems at the moment our club are the ones they want to rip apart.
just need to keep calm heads and keep the tougher stance that Koeman is showing. Once the season starts and if we have new players in place we have the chance to settle things down and attention will drift elsewhere.
Maybe the talking is best left to Koeman he doesn't put his foot in it every time he opens his mouth. Morgan is linked with Spurs simply because Poch is there, not necessarily because there is any real action on that front. Arsenal have been put off by the price tag for now and are looking elsewhere. Spurs are awash with midfield players and atackers. They also have a limited transfer budget. Not sure ther is any real truth in these stories though the betting has it as a foregone conclusion. Liverpool have said there was a 20 mil deal on the table for Lovren and its basically take it or leave it. As for Kelvin as club captain still good news steady loyal head Fonte or Davis would be a good captain. Though Hull are also said to be going to make a move for Fonte. A lot of the unsettlement within the club has been media and agent inspired, its escalated because the media has nothing else to do but create havoc and it seems at the moment our club are the ones they want to rip apart. just need to keep calm heads and keep the tougher stance that Koeman is showing. Once the season starts and if we have new players in place we have the chance to settle things down and attention will drift elsewhere. milton road
  • Score: 8

8:29am Wed 23 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

justaSaintsfan wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment!
Do you really truly and honestly believe we are going to field a better team than last season?

I'm all for optimism but I just don't see how you get to that conclusion.

PS had my eyes lasered and I've got 60 40 vision :)
[quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!![/p][/quote]There are none so blind as those who will not see.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment![/p][/quote]Do you really truly and honestly believe we are going to field a better team than last season? I'm all for optimism but I just don't see how you get to that conclusion. PS had my eyes lasered and I've got 60 40 vision :) Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -8

8:32am Wed 23 Jul 14

costa gaz says...

The media are reporting that Jose Fonte will reject a two year extension to his current contract.
Horrible London based press, been trying to upset our club since Jan, and what have they got right????? Just about everything.
The media are reporting that Jose Fonte will reject a two year extension to his current contract. Horrible London based press, been trying to upset our club since Jan, and what have they got right????? Just about everything. costa gaz
  • Score: 0

8:38am Wed 23 Jul 14

RED & WHITE..RED & WHITE says...

We all love Kelvin Davis
We all love Kelvin Davis RED & WHITE..RED & WHITE
  • Score: 11

8:40am Wed 23 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

costa gaz wrote:
The media are reporting that Jose Fonte will reject a two year extension to his current contract.
Horrible London based press, been trying to upset our club since Jan, and what have they got right????? Just about everything.
The media are barsterds but I'm not buying into the fact that our entire team want away just because of them. Something has gone horribly wrong and the only hope we have is Ron.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: The media are reporting that Jose Fonte will reject a two year extension to his current contract. Horrible London based press, been trying to upset our club since Jan, and what have they got right????? Just about everything.[/p][/quote]The media are barsterds but I'm not buying into the fact that our entire team want away just because of them. Something has gone horribly wrong and the only hope we have is Ron. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 1

8:41am Wed 23 Jul 14

long memory says...

I really cannot understand the negativity being posted on here by so many supporters.
You seem to be part of modern society,that you must have instant gratification in your life.
I personally feel very optimistic with the way things will pan out over the next few weeks. I am very happy with the manager and his team,and yes,even the board,also the players that have come in,and the players we have been linked with.
I can only presume that a lot of you negative people must have been suicidal six years ago,come on let's try and be half glass full,the future is bright.
I really cannot understand the negativity being posted on here by so many supporters. You seem to be part of modern society,that you must have instant gratification in your life. I personally feel very optimistic with the way things will pan out over the next few weeks. I am very happy with the manager and his team,and yes,even the board,also the players that have come in,and the players we have been linked with. I can only presume that a lot of you negative people must have been suicidal six years ago,come on let's try and be half glass full,the future is bright. long memory
  • Score: 17

8:43am Wed 23 Jul 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

Alices Dad posted ... what' happening ...

SECURED TOP EUROPEAN MANAGER - FACT

SECURED TOP STRIKER - looks hungry to be among goals - needs to cut his teeth in PREM.

SECURED ATTACKING MIDFIELDER - Reports that he is better than one trick pony - lala.

ADDITIONAL No 1 KEEPER - Welcome Frader Fprster - the Number One Club in the South awaits.

PACY WINGER - Up the Bid and secure the services of REDMOND today !!!

What about Cover for Top Striker and LB ????

NEED COVER FOR PELLE - Sharp gallagher etc are there ... but need one of the BIURNLEY STRIKERS FOR IMPACT.

LB - There is risk relying on MT and other Players - a Seasoned LB would steady the ship at the back and stop leaking goals.

SECURE KEEPER +WINGER TO HAVE A GOOD SEASON - COYR+WS








NEED C

.
Alices Dad posted ... what' happening ... SECURED TOP EUROPEAN MANAGER - FACT SECURED TOP STRIKER - looks hungry to be among goals - needs to cut his teeth in PREM. SECURED ATTACKING MIDFIELDER - Reports that he is better than one trick pony - lala. ADDITIONAL No 1 KEEPER - Welcome Frader Fprster - the Number One Club in the South awaits. PACY WINGER - Up the Bid and secure the services of REDMOND today !!! What about Cover for Top Striker and LB ???? NEED COVER FOR PELLE - Sharp gallagher etc are there ... but need one of the BIURNLEY STRIKERS FOR IMPACT. LB - There is risk relying on MT and other Players - a Seasoned LB would steady the ship at the back and stop leaking goals. SECURE KEEPER +WINGER TO HAVE A GOOD SEASON - COYR+WS NEED C . The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 7

8:44am Wed 23 Jul 14

george chivers says...

justaSaintsfan wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment!
You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.?

Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief.

And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked.

I look forward to your reply.
[quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!![/p][/quote]There are none so blind as those who will not see.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment![/p][/quote]You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.? Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief. And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked. I look forward to your reply. george chivers
  • Score: 2

8:49am Wed 23 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Rupert Lowe's Backside wrote:
Sorry I may sound conspiratorial here, but not offering Morgan the captaincy may mean that he is on the way out? Apart from KD, Fonte 'feels' the obvious choice; but couldnt the captaincy been used as a bargaining chip for Morgan's loyalty?

Get Spiderman and Cork signed ASAP

COYR and whites stripes!
Or is it that as good a player as he might be, Koeman sees no leadership qualities in him?
[quote][p][bold]Rupert Lowe's Backside[/bold] wrote: Sorry I may sound conspiratorial here, but not offering Morgan the captaincy may mean that he is on the way out? Apart from KD, Fonte 'feels' the obvious choice; but couldnt the captaincy been used as a bargaining chip for Morgan's loyalty? Get Spiderman and Cork signed ASAP COYR and whites stripes![/p][/quote]Or is it that as good a player as he might be, Koeman sees no leadership qualities in him? jls217
  • Score: 4

8:51am Wed 23 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

george chivers wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment!
You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.?

Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief.

And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked.

I look forward to your reply.
Blimey George, you've changed your tune!

Have a good day all, I'm off barbel fishing.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!![/p][/quote]There are none so blind as those who will not see.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment![/p][/quote]You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.? Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief. And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked. I look forward to your reply.[/p][/quote]Blimey George, you've changed your tune! Have a good day all, I'm off barbel fishing. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 2

8:54am Wed 23 Jul 14

jls217 says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
Sadly this is an acknowledgement that Morgan is going to London next week and offering the captaincy to Jose is an attempt to stop him leaving.
Fonte knows we were looking to bring in a better CB to partner Lovren and will possibly still be bringing two CB's in, so making him captain when he may not not be a first choice is a strange choice but understandable as there are few candidates left.

Also sad that we missed out on Stephen Caulker who should have been signed up a month ago with Fonte going the other way, although Cardiff do still want to sign him.

Les Reed is busy with all the sales & trying to offer new contracts to our current players to try and keep them, J-Rod will not sign the new one Les offered him at the moment, but Les MUST spend more time to start bringing new players in, which is now more of a priority.

Forster, Redmond, De Vrij, Vlaar, Clasie and the best Striker we can get would make things look more positive for everyone.

COYS
I should imagine equal time is being given to all of the various tasks the various members of the back room staff are trusted with. I would imagine Les is quite capable of discussing incoming/outgoing/re
newing contracts all in the same day. Spyder may well be going he might be staying until Saints confirm it we don't know.
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Sadly this is an acknowledgement that Morgan is going to London next week and offering the captaincy to Jose is an attempt to stop him leaving. Fonte knows we were looking to bring in a better CB to partner Lovren and will possibly still be bringing two CB's in, so making him captain when he may not not be a first choice is a strange choice but understandable as there are few candidates left. Also sad that we missed out on Stephen Caulker who should have been signed up a month ago with Fonte going the other way, although Cardiff do still want to sign him. Les Reed is busy with all the sales & trying to offer new contracts to our current players to try and keep them, J-Rod will not sign the new one Les offered him at the moment, but Les MUST spend more time to start bringing new players in, which is now more of a priority. Forster, Redmond, De Vrij, Vlaar, Clasie and the best Striker we can get would make things look more positive for everyone. COYS[/p][/quote]I should imagine equal time is being given to all of the various tasks the various members of the back room staff are trusted with. I would imagine Les is quite capable of discussing incoming/outgoing/re newing contracts all in the same day. Spyder may well be going he might be staying until Saints confirm it we don't know. jls217
  • Score: 3

8:56am Wed 23 Jul 14

jls217 says...

justaSaintsfan wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
Two great posts and it just about sums the situation up perfectly.
[quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!![/p][/quote]Two great posts and it just about sums the situation up perfectly. jls217
  • Score: 9

8:58am Wed 23 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

long memory wrote:
I really cannot understand the negativity being posted on here by so many supporters.
You seem to be part of modern society,that you must have instant gratification in your life.
I personally feel very optimistic with the way things will pan out over the next few weeks. I am very happy with the manager and his team,and yes,even the board,also the players that have come in,and the players we have been linked with.
I can only presume that a lot of you negative people must have been suicidal six years ago,come on let's try and be half glass full,the future is bright.
That's twisting things to suit yourself. This isn't instant gratification. Think about it, relegated from the Prem, stagnation in the Championship, relegation from the Chamionship, Administration, minus ten points. The long slow haul back up through the leagues. The creation of a superb team out of academy products and lower league players. The need for two or three additions to push on from 8th.

I suggest you change your login.
[quote][p][bold]long memory[/bold] wrote: I really cannot understand the negativity being posted on here by so many supporters. You seem to be part of modern society,that you must have instant gratification in your life. I personally feel very optimistic with the way things will pan out over the next few weeks. I am very happy with the manager and his team,and yes,even the board,also the players that have come in,and the players we have been linked with. I can only presume that a lot of you negative people must have been suicidal six years ago,come on let's try and be half glass full,the future is bright.[/p][/quote]That's twisting things to suit yourself. This isn't instant gratification. Think about it, relegated from the Prem, stagnation in the Championship, relegation from the Chamionship, Administration, minus ten points. The long slow haul back up through the leagues. The creation of a superb team out of academy products and lower league players. The need for two or three additions to push on from 8th. I suggest you change your login. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -17

8:59am Wed 23 Jul 14

jls217 says...

BarnetSaint wrote:
Has there been any word from Kruger or Reed?
It would be quite reassuring to hear something positive from them!
No it would not - the only people we need to be hearing from are the Rambo brothers, the others should just keep quiet and not be seen. They do what they need to do in the background, it's the Koeman bros who are the face and the voice of this club now.
[quote][p][bold]BarnetSaint[/bold] wrote: Has there been any word from Kruger or Reed? It would be quite reassuring to hear something positive from them![/p][/quote]No it would not - the only people we need to be hearing from are the Rambo brothers, the others should just keep quiet and not be seen. They do what they need to do in the background, it's the Koeman bros who are the face and the voice of this club now. jls217
  • Score: 7

9:03am Wed 23 Jul 14

jls217 says...

milton road wrote:
Maybe the talking is best left to Koeman he doesn't put his foot in it every time he opens his mouth.
Morgan is linked with Spurs simply because Poch is there, not necessarily because there is any real action on that front. Arsenal have been put off by the price tag for now and are looking elsewhere. Spurs are awash with midfield players and atackers. They also have a limited transfer budget. Not sure ther is any real truth in these stories though the betting has it as a foregone conclusion.
Liverpool have said there was a 20 mil deal on the table for Lovren and its basically take it or leave it.
As for Kelvin as club captain still good news steady loyal head
Fonte or Davis would be a good captain. Though Hull are also said to be going to make a move for Fonte.
A lot of the unsettlement within the club has been media and agent inspired, its escalated because the media has nothing else to do but create havoc and it seems at the moment our club are the ones they want to rip apart.
just need to keep calm heads and keep the tougher stance that Koeman is showing. Once the season starts and if we have new players in place we have the chance to settle things down and attention will drift elsewhere.
Couldn't agree more mate - thanks for a reasoned opinion amongst far too many over-emotional, pointless outbursts of illogical nonsense.
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: Maybe the talking is best left to Koeman he doesn't put his foot in it every time he opens his mouth. Morgan is linked with Spurs simply because Poch is there, not necessarily because there is any real action on that front. Arsenal have been put off by the price tag for now and are looking elsewhere. Spurs are awash with midfield players and atackers. They also have a limited transfer budget. Not sure ther is any real truth in these stories though the betting has it as a foregone conclusion. Liverpool have said there was a 20 mil deal on the table for Lovren and its basically take it or leave it. As for Kelvin as club captain still good news steady loyal head Fonte or Davis would be a good captain. Though Hull are also said to be going to make a move for Fonte. A lot of the unsettlement within the club has been media and agent inspired, its escalated because the media has nothing else to do but create havoc and it seems at the moment our club are the ones they want to rip apart. just need to keep calm heads and keep the tougher stance that Koeman is showing. Once the season starts and if we have new players in place we have the chance to settle things down and attention will drift elsewhere.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more mate - thanks for a reasoned opinion amongst far too many over-emotional, pointless outbursts of illogical nonsense. jls217
  • Score: 4

9:05am Wed 23 Jul 14

george chivers says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment!
You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.?

Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief.

And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked.

I look forward to your reply.
Blimey George, you've changed your tune!

Have a good day all, I'm off barbel fishing.
Not really Seed. I've always said I think KL is selling dear and buying cheap so she can get some of her loans back and paying lower wages to unknowns to maintain a low cost base.

I am now frustrated by the board because we have no statement on the club's strategy. I've held off on this point for a while but I think the fans/supporters are now entitled to one as we are about three weeks off the start of the new season.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!![/p][/quote]There are none so blind as those who will not see.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment![/p][/quote]You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.? Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief. And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked. I look forward to your reply.[/p][/quote]Blimey George, you've changed your tune! Have a good day all, I'm off barbel fishing.[/p][/quote]Not really Seed. I've always said I think KL is selling dear and buying cheap so she can get some of her loans back and paying lower wages to unknowns to maintain a low cost base. I am now frustrated by the board because we have no statement on the club's strategy. I've held off on this point for a while but I think the fans/supporters are now entitled to one as we are about three weeks off the start of the new season. george chivers
  • Score: 0

9:06am Wed 23 Jul 14

costa gaz says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Alices Dad posted ... what' happening ...

SECURED TOP EUROPEAN MANAGER - FACT

SECURED TOP STRIKER - looks hungry to be among goals - needs to cut his teeth in PREM.

SECURED ATTACKING MIDFIELDER - Reports that he is better than one trick pony - lala.

ADDITIONAL No 1 KEEPER - Welcome Frader Fprster - the Number One Club in the South awaits.

PACY WINGER - Up the Bid and secure the services of REDMOND today !!!

What about Cover for Top Striker and LB ????

NEED COVER FOR PELLE - Sharp gallagher etc are there ... but need one of the BIURNLEY STRIKERS FOR IMPACT.

LB - There is risk relying on MT and other Players - a Seasoned LB would steady the ship at the back and stop leaking goals.

SECURE KEEPER +WINGER TO HAVE A GOOD SEASON - COYR+WS








NEED C

.
And has he walked further towards the bottom of the garden, all the fairies disappeared ....
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: Alices Dad posted ... what' happening ... SECURED TOP EUROPEAN MANAGER - FACT SECURED TOP STRIKER - looks hungry to be among goals - needs to cut his teeth in PREM. SECURED ATTACKING MIDFIELDER - Reports that he is better than one trick pony - lala. ADDITIONAL No 1 KEEPER - Welcome Frader Fprster - the Number One Club in the South awaits. PACY WINGER - Up the Bid and secure the services of REDMOND today !!! What about Cover for Top Striker and LB ???? NEED COVER FOR PELLE - Sharp gallagher etc are there ... but need one of the BIURNLEY STRIKERS FOR IMPACT. LB - There is risk relying on MT and other Players - a Seasoned LB would steady the ship at the back and stop leaking goals. SECURE KEEPER +WINGER TO HAVE A GOOD SEASON - COYR+WS NEED C .[/p][/quote]And has he walked further towards the bottom of the garden, all the fairies disappeared .... costa gaz
  • Score: 7

9:09am Wed 23 Jul 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

I hope to see that the board aren't just going to attempt to 'patch up the holes' left by the outgoing players and exceed some expectations with future transfers. With regards to the manager I believe they have. Only time will tell if the new team will measure up in the PL because with the previous key players gone, there is no basis for comparison yet.
I hope to see that the board aren't just going to attempt to 'patch up the holes' left by the outgoing players and exceed some expectations with future transfers. With regards to the manager I believe they have. Only time will tell if the new team will measure up in the PL because with the previous key players gone, there is no basis for comparison yet. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 2

9:14am Wed 23 Jul 14

jls217 says...

george chivers wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment!
You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.?

Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief.

And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked.

I look forward to your reply.
Maybe it's just that we realize being negative is not going to achieve a single thing except make a miserable situation worse than it already is. No sane person wants to lose the backbone of their team in the way we have.
No idea what has really happened since XMAS to shake them all up - we can all speculate and occasionally get close to the truth maybe but none of us know for sure.
No real point in getting all bent out of shape for something we have no control over whatsoever.
I prefer to stay calm, optimistic and put my faith in the people who are paid to rectify this bloody awful mess. I can do nothing. How others react to the avalanche of bad news is entirely up to them but a long life on this planet has taught me a few things and one of the most valuable has been if you have nothing positive or pleasant to say it's best to shut the ferk up until you do. I don't always succeed in that aim but I try to stick to it as I do not want to make any negative situation worse than it already is by stupid, ill considered, ignorant, unnecessarily emotional comments or deeds. The only thing I'm sure of is I'm going to enjoy every single team, every single season I have left on the planet and every one is going to be better than the last one.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!![/p][/quote]There are none so blind as those who will not see.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment![/p][/quote]You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.? Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief. And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked. I look forward to your reply.[/p][/quote]Maybe it's just that we realize being negative is not going to achieve a single thing except make a miserable situation worse than it already is. No sane person wants to lose the backbone of their team in the way we have. No idea what has really happened since XMAS to shake them all up - we can all speculate and occasionally get close to the truth maybe but none of us know for sure. No real point in getting all bent out of shape for something we have no control over whatsoever. I prefer to stay calm, optimistic and put my faith in the people who are paid to rectify this bloody awful mess. I can do nothing. How others react to the avalanche of bad news is entirely up to them but a long life on this planet has taught me a few things and one of the most valuable has been if you have nothing positive or pleasant to say it's best to shut the ferk up until you do. I don't always succeed in that aim but I try to stick to it as I do not want to make any negative situation worse than it already is by stupid, ill considered, ignorant, unnecessarily emotional comments or deeds. The only thing I'm sure of is I'm going to enjoy every single team, every single season I have left on the planet and every one is going to be better than the last one. jls217
  • Score: 5

9:17am Wed 23 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

has fonte been given the captaincy then? no its in the paper so must, according to some, mean its true!
even if he was offered the captaincy does that mean that the rest of the squad are off? no, I think others have said this but, he might be the best candidate for Ronnie and spider and others might not even want it!
to say that because a newspaper reports that he has been given the captaincy means others are on their way out is a massive leap of outright guesswork!
I very much doubt spider is off to spuds as they haven't got the money to spend, according to all the press reports that we know are true! they just did a swap deal with Swansea for relatively cheap players. they blew all the money last year on trying to get into the champs league, they hopped that getting their would bring in the money for new players. why did they bring in pochaliar as manager? a manager with a history of working on tight budgets and bringing through young players! instead of other `high spending` managers?
has fonte been given the captaincy then? no its in the paper so must, according to some, mean its true! even if he was offered the captaincy does that mean that the rest of the squad are off? no, I think others have said this but, he might be the best candidate for Ronnie and spider and others might not even want it! to say that because a newspaper reports that he has been given the captaincy means others are on their way out is a massive leap of outright guesswork! I very much doubt spider is off to spuds as they haven't got the money to spend, according to all the press reports that we know are true! they just did a swap deal with Swansea for relatively cheap players. they blew all the money last year on trying to get into the champs league, they hopped that getting their would bring in the money for new players. why did they bring in pochaliar as manager? a manager with a history of working on tight budgets and bringing through young players! instead of other `high spending` managers? de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: -7

9:18am Wed 23 Jul 14

costa gaz says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
The media are reporting that Jose Fonte will reject a two year extension to his current contract.
Horrible London based press, been trying to upset our club since Jan, and what have they got right????? Just about everything.
The media are barsterds but I'm not buying into the fact that our entire team want away just because of them. Something has gone horribly wrong and the only hope we have is Ron.
Sorry Seed, I was attempting sarcasm.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: The media are reporting that Jose Fonte will reject a two year extension to his current contract. Horrible London based press, been trying to upset our club since Jan, and what have they got right????? Just about everything.[/p][/quote]The media are barsterds but I'm not buying into the fact that our entire team want away just because of them. Something has gone horribly wrong and the only hope we have is Ron.[/p][/quote]Sorry Seed, I was attempting sarcasm. costa gaz
  • Score: 4

9:21am Wed 23 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
A dog with no nose will still smell a lot.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!![/p][/quote]There are none so blind as those who will not see.[/p][/quote]A dog with no nose will still smell a lot. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

9:22am Wed 23 Jul 14

Wembley76 says...

Koeman is playing an intelligent game...he is seeking to keep Fonte and Davis happy, but at the same time, keeping his options open....it is too premature to select a captain for the Prem season until we have a clear picture of the squad and the new intake. Slowly and carefully we are getting there, in a v short space of time we have replaced the manager with a 'better' candidate, replaced Lambert and Lallana with equally good players and are holding out for good money on the 'want-aways'....pret
ty good work so far given the situation Cortese and Poch left us in.....let's get behind the club, manager and players and try to be a little patient and realistic...
Koeman is playing an intelligent game...he is seeking to keep Fonte and Davis happy, but at the same time, keeping his options open....it is too premature to select a captain for the Prem season until we have a clear picture of the squad and the new intake. Slowly and carefully we are getting there, in a v short space of time we have replaced the manager with a 'better' candidate, replaced Lambert and Lallana with equally good players and are holding out for good money on the 'want-aways'....pret ty good work so far given the situation Cortese and Poch left us in.....let's get behind the club, manager and players and try to be a little patient and realistic... Wembley76
  • Score: 19

9:24am Wed 23 Jul 14

Dave Juson says...

I do not know about summing the situation perfectly, but I certainly agree that there is not point in panicking when the Club gives every appearance of going about its business, as JustaSaintsFan observes, "professionally and calmly."
The greatest consolation is that all the hot air blasting through this website on the Saints is that nobody at St Mary's reads it regularly, so nobody is influenced.
I must say, the one thing I will always miss about Nicola Cortse was his complete indifference to his crirics -- despite the fact I was one of them.
I do not know about summing the situation perfectly, but I certainly agree that there is not point in panicking when the Club gives every appearance of going about its business, as JustaSaintsFan observes, "professionally and calmly." The greatest consolation is that all the hot air blasting through this website on the Saints is that nobody at St Mary's reads it regularly, so nobody is influenced. I must say, the one thing I will always miss about Nicola Cortse was his complete indifference to his crirics -- despite the fact I was one of them. Dave Juson
  • Score: 0

9:27am Wed 23 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

costa gaz wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
The media are reporting that Jose Fonte will reject a two year extension to his current contract.
Horrible London based press, been trying to upset our club since Jan, and what have they got right????? Just about everything.
The media are barsterds but I'm not buying into the fact that our entire team want away just because of them. Something has gone horribly wrong and the only hope we have is Ron.
Sorry Seed, I was attempting sarcasm.
Failed though. Try irony, that might work.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: The media are reporting that Jose Fonte will reject a two year extension to his current contract. Horrible London based press, been trying to upset our club since Jan, and what have they got right????? Just about everything.[/p][/quote]The media are barsterds but I'm not buying into the fact that our entire team want away just because of them. Something has gone horribly wrong and the only hope we have is Ron.[/p][/quote]Sorry Seed, I was attempting sarcasm.[/p][/quote]Failed though. Try irony, that might work. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -2

9:30am Wed 23 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

costa gaz wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Alices Dad posted ... what' happening ...

SECURED TOP EUROPEAN MANAGER - FACT

SECURED TOP STRIKER - looks hungry to be among goals - needs to cut his teeth in PREM.

SECURED ATTACKING MIDFIELDER - Reports that he is better than one trick pony - lala.

ADDITIONAL No 1 KEEPER - Welcome Frader Fprster - the Number One Club in the South awaits.

PACY WINGER - Up the Bid and secure the services of REDMOND today !!!

What about Cover for Top Striker and LB ????

NEED COVER FOR PELLE - Sharp gallagher etc are there ... but need one of the BIURNLEY STRIKERS FOR IMPACT.

LB - There is risk relying on MT and other Players - a Seasoned LB would steady the ship at the back and stop leaking goals.

SECURE KEEPER +WINGER TO HAVE A GOOD SEASON - COYR+WS








NEED C

.
And has he walked further towards the bottom of the garden, all the fairies disappeared ....
I didn't have you down as someone that believed in fairies, it does explain a lot though.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: Alices Dad posted ... what' happening ... SECURED TOP EUROPEAN MANAGER - FACT SECURED TOP STRIKER - looks hungry to be among goals - needs to cut his teeth in PREM. SECURED ATTACKING MIDFIELDER - Reports that he is better than one trick pony - lala. ADDITIONAL No 1 KEEPER - Welcome Frader Fprster - the Number One Club in the South awaits. PACY WINGER - Up the Bid and secure the services of REDMOND today !!! What about Cover for Top Striker and LB ???? NEED COVER FOR PELLE - Sharp gallagher etc are there ... but need one of the BIURNLEY STRIKERS FOR IMPACT. LB - There is risk relying on MT and other Players - a Seasoned LB would steady the ship at the back and stop leaking goals. SECURE KEEPER +WINGER TO HAVE A GOOD SEASON - COYR+WS NEED C .[/p][/quote]And has he walked further towards the bottom of the garden, all the fairies disappeared ....[/p][/quote]I didn't have you down as someone that believed in fairies, it does explain a lot though. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

9:38am Wed 23 Jul 14

costa gaz says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
has fonte been given the captaincy then? no its in the paper so must, according to some, mean its true!
even if he was offered the captaincy does that mean that the rest of the squad are off? no, I think others have said this but, he might be the best candidate for Ronnie and spider and others might not even want it!
to say that because a newspaper reports that he has been given the captaincy means others are on their way out is a massive leap of outright guesswork!
I very much doubt spider is off to spuds as they haven't got the money to spend, according to all the press reports that we know are true! they just did a swap deal with Swansea for relatively cheap players. they blew all the money last year on trying to get into the champs league, they hopped that getting their would bring in the money for new players. why did they bring in pochaliar as manager? a manager with a history of working on tight budgets and bringing through young players! instead of other `high spending` managers?
101, are you cherry picking the press reports?
The negative ones about Saints are all lies and should not be believed, but the good ones about PL rivals not having any money to spend are true.

If you do reply, keep it short lol.. ;-)
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: has fonte been given the captaincy then? no its in the paper so must, according to some, mean its true! even if he was offered the captaincy does that mean that the rest of the squad are off? no, I think others have said this but, he might be the best candidate for Ronnie and spider and others might not even want it! to say that because a newspaper reports that he has been given the captaincy means others are on their way out is a massive leap of outright guesswork! I very much doubt spider is off to spuds as they haven't got the money to spend, according to all the press reports that we know are true! they just did a swap deal with Swansea for relatively cheap players. they blew all the money last year on trying to get into the champs league, they hopped that getting their would bring in the money for new players. why did they bring in pochaliar as manager? a manager with a history of working on tight budgets and bringing through young players! instead of other `high spending` managers?[/p][/quote]101, are you cherry picking the press reports? The negative ones about Saints are all lies and should not be believed, but the good ones about PL rivals not having any money to spend are true. If you do reply, keep it short lol.. ;-) costa gaz
  • Score: 10

9:41am Wed 23 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment!
You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.?

Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief.

And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked.

I look forward to your reply.
Blimey George, you've changed your tune!

Have a good day all, I'm off barbel fishing.
I am getting visions of a bloke with a long white beard and a pointy Saints bobble hat sat on a stool!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!![/p][/quote]There are none so blind as those who will not see.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment![/p][/quote]You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.? Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief. And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked. I look forward to your reply.[/p][/quote]Blimey George, you've changed your tune! Have a good day all, I'm off barbel fishing.[/p][/quote]I am getting visions of a bloke with a long white beard and a pointy Saints bobble hat sat on a stool! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -6

9:45am Wed 23 Jul 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

FIGHT AND WIN ..

Saints Fans are more capable than just polarizing Opinions into positive and negative thread after thread .....

GROW a F*CKING PAIR ...

SAINTS FANS can FIGHT on more than one front ....

SECURING PLAYERS is NUMBER ONE.

GETTING AN INCREASE IN STADIUM CAPACITY IS ANOTHER.

With all his talk of fairies - costa gaz must be going to the Amex Stadium and sitting in the Brighton end .... LOL
FIGHT AND WIN .. Saints Fans are more capable than just polarizing Opinions into positive and negative thread after thread ..... GROW a F*CKING PAIR ... SAINTS FANS can FIGHT on more than one front .... SECURING PLAYERS is NUMBER ONE. GETTING AN INCREASE IN STADIUM CAPACITY IS ANOTHER. With all his talk of fairies - costa gaz must be going to the Amex Stadium and sitting in the Brighton end .... LOL The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 2

9:46am Wed 23 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

costa gaz wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
has fonte been given the captaincy then? no its in the paper so must, according to some, mean its true!
even if he was offered the captaincy does that mean that the rest of the squad are off? no, I think others have said this but, he might be the best candidate for Ronnie and spider and others might not even want it!
to say that because a newspaper reports that he has been given the captaincy means others are on their way out is a massive leap of outright guesswork!
I very much doubt spider is off to spuds as they haven't got the money to spend, according to all the press reports that we know are true! they just did a swap deal with Swansea for relatively cheap players. they blew all the money last year on trying to get into the champs league, they hopped that getting their would bring in the money for new players. why did they bring in pochaliar as manager? a manager with a history of working on tight budgets and bringing through young players! instead of other `high spending` managers?
101, are you cherry picking the press reports?
The negative ones about Saints are all lies and should not be believed, but the good ones about PL rivals not having any money to spend are true.

If you do reply, keep it short lol.. ;-)
gaz are you cherry picking the red tops looking for all of the bad news, which is mostly mischievous and dubious, while ignoring the hints about probable targets? It can work both ways you know.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: has fonte been given the captaincy then? no its in the paper so must, according to some, mean its true! even if he was offered the captaincy does that mean that the rest of the squad are off? no, I think others have said this but, he might be the best candidate for Ronnie and spider and others might not even want it! to say that because a newspaper reports that he has been given the captaincy means others are on their way out is a massive leap of outright guesswork! I very much doubt spider is off to spuds as they haven't got the money to spend, according to all the press reports that we know are true! they just did a swap deal with Swansea for relatively cheap players. they blew all the money last year on trying to get into the champs league, they hopped that getting their would bring in the money for new players. why did they bring in pochaliar as manager? a manager with a history of working on tight budgets and bringing through young players! instead of other `high spending` managers?[/p][/quote]101, are you cherry picking the press reports? The negative ones about Saints are all lies and should not be believed, but the good ones about PL rivals not having any money to spend are true. If you do reply, keep it short lol.. ;-)[/p][/quote]gaz are you cherry picking the red tops looking for all of the bad news, which is mostly mischievous and dubious, while ignoring the hints about probable targets? It can work both ways you know. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -4

9:48am Wed 23 Jul 14

SaintJD says...

InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
Mmmmm, I think you'll find it is our senior players who are acting like spoilt eight year olds and personally I don't think the concept of Fonte being our captain is a great sign of our ambitions going forward.

I'd say the majority of fans (and the previous manager and regime based on his expiring contract) saw Jose as a very solid pro who has done a brilliant job for us at all levels but, like Rickie, was probably due to spend more time on the bench as we strengthened to levels not before seen at this club.

I don't think making him captain sends out a message that we are going to be reinvesting and strengthening (not patching up) our defence from last season - which clearly was missing something, particularly when injuries hit.

And while I want Jose to sign a longer deal, I don't think re-signing him is some kind of 'show of strength' that makes up for us losing all the other players, it just shows what level we are prepared to accept and the level of player we are able to keep.

Keeping the likes of Adam, Luke, Spider, and Dejan at the club is a show of strength because they are players who, as we've seen, are arguably a step above those we'd normally keep.

That's why everyone is disappointed - it looked like we'd created an environment where players could realise their dreams at Saints, not away from us.

Blind panic and whining isn't something I've seen from the majority of posters on this site - far from it. We've had about six months of seeing this problem develop and have been warning about the same things time and time again while being disappointed time and time again.

And, one of the lesser things I've been concerned about (and to be honest until we opened ourselves up to selling half the first team I hadn't been concerned about it at all) has been whether Fonte should be captain or whether we extend his contract.
[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]Mmmmm, I think you'll find it is our senior players who are acting like spoilt eight year olds and personally I don't think the concept of Fonte being our captain is a great sign of our ambitions going forward. I'd say the majority of fans (and the previous manager and regime based on his expiring contract) saw Jose as a very solid pro who has done a brilliant job for us at all levels but, like Rickie, was probably due to spend more time on the bench as we strengthened to levels not before seen at this club. I don't think making him captain sends out a message that we are going to be reinvesting and strengthening (not patching up) our defence from last season - which clearly was missing something, particularly when injuries hit. And while I want Jose to sign a longer deal, I don't think re-signing him is some kind of 'show of strength' that makes up for us losing all the other players, it just shows what level we are prepared to accept and the level of player we are able to keep. Keeping the likes of Adam, Luke, Spider, and Dejan at the club is a show of strength because they are players who, as we've seen, are arguably a step above those we'd normally keep. That's why everyone is disappointed - it looked like we'd created an environment where players could realise their dreams at Saints, not away from us. Blind panic and whining isn't something I've seen from the majority of posters on this site - far from it. We've had about six months of seeing this problem develop and have been warning about the same things time and time again while being disappointed time and time again. And, one of the lesser things I've been concerned about (and to be honest until we opened ourselves up to selling half the first team I hadn't been concerned about it at all) has been whether Fonte should be captain or whether we extend his contract. SaintJD
  • Score: 7

9:54am Wed 23 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

justaSaintsfan wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
Sammy will sort that for you!
[quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!![/p][/quote]Sammy will sort that for you! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

9:58am Wed 23 Jul 14

SaintJD says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
FIGHT AND WIN ..

Saints Fans are more capable than just polarizing Opinions into positive and negative thread after thread .....

GROW a F*CKING PAIR ...

SAINTS FANS can FIGHT on more than one front ....

SECURING PLAYERS is NUMBER ONE.

GETTING AN INCREASE IN STADIUM CAPACITY IS ANOTHER.

With all his talk of fairies - costa gaz must be going to the Amex Stadium and sitting in the Brighton end .... LOL
Good post. It's ridiculous to call people either 'neggies' or 'happy clappers' - how about people understanding that there is a bulk of people who are somewhere in between?

I'm still optimistic that we can somehow pull something out of the bag this summer, but I'm not going to blindly say I trust the board in all totality because I'm still waiting for them to back words with actions.

I don't think that's negative, it's based on the evidence on the table so far.

One thing is for sure though, if you want to attract the likes of Vlaar and others you need to show them you aren't in the middle of a fire sale. We have to show ambition and strength to attract people in and sell them a new dream.

Whatever happens I will be fully supporting the Saints next season, loudly and passionately and through thick and thin and I'll do that steadily and consistently as I have through the years - not jumping from insanely positive to insanely negative on the basis of one result.
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: FIGHT AND WIN .. Saints Fans are more capable than just polarizing Opinions into positive and negative thread after thread ..... GROW a F*CKING PAIR ... SAINTS FANS can FIGHT on more than one front .... SECURING PLAYERS is NUMBER ONE. GETTING AN INCREASE IN STADIUM CAPACITY IS ANOTHER. With all his talk of fairies - costa gaz must be going to the Amex Stadium and sitting in the Brighton end .... LOL[/p][/quote]Good post. It's ridiculous to call people either 'neggies' or 'happy clappers' - how about people understanding that there is a bulk of people who are somewhere in between? I'm still optimistic that we can somehow pull something out of the bag this summer, but I'm not going to blindly say I trust the board in all totality because I'm still waiting for them to back words with actions. I don't think that's negative, it's based on the evidence on the table so far. One thing is for sure though, if you want to attract the likes of Vlaar and others you need to show them you aren't in the middle of a fire sale. We have to show ambition and strength to attract people in and sell them a new dream. Whatever happens I will be fully supporting the Saints next season, loudly and passionately and through thick and thin and I'll do that steadily and consistently as I have through the years - not jumping from insanely positive to insanely negative on the basis of one result. SaintJD
  • Score: 14

9:59am Wed 23 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

jls217 wrote:
BarnetSaint wrote:
Has there been any word from Kruger or Reed?
It would be quite reassuring to hear something positive from them!
No it would not - the only people we need to be hearing from are the Rambo brothers, the others should just keep quiet and not be seen. They do what they need to do in the background, it's the Koeman bros who are the face and the voice of this club now.
Nailed it Jls!
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BarnetSaint[/bold] wrote: Has there been any word from Kruger or Reed? It would be quite reassuring to hear something positive from them![/p][/quote]No it would not - the only people we need to be hearing from are the Rambo brothers, the others should just keep quiet and not be seen. They do what they need to do in the background, it's the Koeman bros who are the face and the voice of this club now.[/p][/quote]Nailed it Jls! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 5

10:15am Wed 23 Jul 14

justaSaintsfan says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment!
Do you really truly and honestly believe we are going to field a better team than last season?

I'm all for optimism but I just don't see how you get to that conclusion.

PS had my eyes lasered and I've got 60 40 vision :)
Nobody knows what will happen next season. Look at what happened to Salford United last season, after a great previous season. Look at Saints last season. Nobody knew we would play well and do ok, but we did.

What I do know is that in every walk of life, negativity is a recipe only for failure.

Who knows right now whether or not Saints will be better next season?
Nobody knows. You reckon I say that Saints will be better, but I have not actually made any comment on how good our team will be. I do, however, know that if we fans don't show our full support for the club, instead of continuing with all that damaging negativity, our players could be adversely affected. Do you think that all our players don't read our posts on this forum? Perhaps seeing so many negative comments for so long a period even helped some players decide to leave Saints.

I'm sick and tired of our national media "slaughtering" Saints for months. It unsettled our players, three of whom have left the club. The media negativity increased the fans' negativity. Liverhampton and Salford United are rebuilding their teams, yet those two clubs have had hardly any negative media treatment as compared to Saints.

I am also sick and tired of whining negativity anywhere I see it. What is the point of expecting failure? Why not instead strive for success? I am a very successful, optimistic guy, who would have got absolutely nowhere in life if I had not stayed optimistic and kept trying every time there was a setback. I have a winning mentality and whenever bad things happen, I work hard to put them right and get on with being successful.

I honestly believe that is the sort of thing Saints are doing. The club is going about its business and I feel certain that new players will soon start arriving at St. Marys. I am remaining calm and patient and looking forward to seeing more new players added to our squad. The neggie veggies need to be patient, support the club and watch out for Saints making more new signings.

What is the alternative? Should I be negative and miserable and not look forward to the new season? No way! None of that is for me, thank you very much!

Congratulations on your laser eye correction. I hope you will soon be seeing Saints in a more positive light!!!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!![/p][/quote]There are none so blind as those who will not see.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment![/p][/quote]Do you really truly and honestly believe we are going to field a better team than last season? I'm all for optimism but I just don't see how you get to that conclusion. PS had my eyes lasered and I've got 60 40 vision :)[/p][/quote]Nobody knows what will happen next season. Look at what happened to Salford United last season, after a great previous season. Look at Saints last season. Nobody knew we would play well and do ok, but we did. What I do know is that in every walk of life, negativity is a recipe only for failure. Who knows right now whether or not Saints will be better next season? Nobody knows. You reckon I say that Saints will be better, but I have not actually made any comment on how good our team will be. I do, however, know that if we fans don't show our full support for the club, instead of continuing with all that damaging negativity, our players could be adversely affected. Do you think that all our players don't read our posts on this forum? Perhaps seeing so many negative comments for so long a period even helped some players decide to leave Saints. I'm sick and tired of our national media "slaughtering" Saints for months. It unsettled our players, three of whom have left the club. The media negativity increased the fans' negativity. Liverhampton and Salford United are rebuilding their teams, yet those two clubs have had hardly any negative media treatment as compared to Saints. I am also sick and tired of whining negativity anywhere I see it. What is the point of expecting failure? Why not instead strive for success? I am a very successful, optimistic guy, who would have got absolutely nowhere in life if I had not stayed optimistic and kept trying every time there was a setback. I have a winning mentality and whenever bad things happen, I work hard to put them right and get on with being successful. I honestly believe that is the sort of thing Saints are doing. The club is going about its business and I feel certain that new players will soon start arriving at St. Marys. I am remaining calm and patient and looking forward to seeing more new players added to our squad. The neggie veggies need to be patient, support the club and watch out for Saints making more new signings. What is the alternative? Should I be negative and miserable and not look forward to the new season? No way! None of that is for me, thank you very much! Congratulations on your laser eye correction. I hope you will soon be seeing Saints in a more positive light!!! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: 9

10:19am Wed 23 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

costa gaz wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
has fonte been given the captaincy then? no its in the paper so must, according to some, mean its true!
even if he was offered the captaincy does that mean that the rest of the squad are off? no, I think others have said this but, he might be the best candidate for Ronnie and spider and others might not even want it!
to say that because a newspaper reports that he has been given the captaincy means others are on their way out is a massive leap of outright guesswork!
I very much doubt spider is off to spuds as they haven't got the money to spend, according to all the press reports that we know are true! they just did a swap deal with Swansea for relatively cheap players. they blew all the money last year on trying to get into the champs league, they hopped that getting their would bring in the money for new players. why did they bring in pochaliar as manager? a manager with a history of working on tight budgets and bringing through young players! instead of other `high spending` managers?
101, are you cherry picking the press reports?
The negative ones about Saints are all lies and should not be believed, but the good ones about PL rivals not having any money to spend are true.

If you do reply, keep it short lol.. ;-)
no no but you fell right into that trap!
the point was that people like you are very happy to clamber all over stories like this as `bad news` and means that players are going, whilst even happier to ignore any stories that might mean players aren't going!
I don't cherry pick as I don't believe a word any of them print! you and others already seem to believe this `story` to be true and have whined nd moaned about it already!
oh and yes the press have been wrong on many occasions about the mighty saints, as soon as NC left we were told the club would be sold straight away and to who, was that the truth? no thought not!
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: has fonte been given the captaincy then? no its in the paper so must, according to some, mean its true! even if he was offered the captaincy does that mean that the rest of the squad are off? no, I think others have said this but, he might be the best candidate for Ronnie and spider and others might not even want it! to say that because a newspaper reports that he has been given the captaincy means others are on their way out is a massive leap of outright guesswork! I very much doubt spider is off to spuds as they haven't got the money to spend, according to all the press reports that we know are true! they just did a swap deal with Swansea for relatively cheap players. they blew all the money last year on trying to get into the champs league, they hopped that getting their would bring in the money for new players. why did they bring in pochaliar as manager? a manager with a history of working on tight budgets and bringing through young players! instead of other `high spending` managers?[/p][/quote]101, are you cherry picking the press reports? The negative ones about Saints are all lies and should not be believed, but the good ones about PL rivals not having any money to spend are true. If you do reply, keep it short lol.. ;-)[/p][/quote]no no but you fell right into that trap! the point was that people like you are very happy to clamber all over stories like this as `bad news` and means that players are going, whilst even happier to ignore any stories that might mean players aren't going! I don't cherry pick as I don't believe a word any of them print! you and others already seem to believe this `story` to be true and have whined nd moaned about it already! oh and yes the press have been wrong on many occasions about the mighty saints, as soon as NC left we were told the club would be sold straight away and to who, was that the truth? no thought not! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: -8

10:22am Wed 23 Jul 14

notaclue says...

The way things stand right now it is difficult to see which experienced outfield player is a guaranteed starter this season apart from Fonte.

Don't think SD will play every game but he is a capable captain no doubt.

Morgans head is not in the right place to lead our team.

So the choice is not that difficult is it?

Fonte it is!
The way things stand right now it is difficult to see which experienced outfield player is a guaranteed starter this season apart from Fonte. Don't think SD will play every game but he is a capable captain no doubt. Morgans head is not in the right place to lead our team. So the choice is not that difficult is it? Fonte it is! notaclue
  • Score: 0

10:27am Wed 23 Jul 14

george chivers says...

jls217 wrote:
george chivers wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment!
You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.?

Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief.

And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked.

I look forward to your reply.
Maybe it's just that we realize being negative is not going to achieve a single thing except make a miserable situation worse than it already is. No sane person wants to lose the backbone of their team in the way we have.
No idea what has really happened since XMAS to shake them all up - we can all speculate and occasionally get close to the truth maybe but none of us know for sure.
No real point in getting all bent out of shape for something we have no control over whatsoever.
I prefer to stay calm, optimistic and put my faith in the people who are paid to rectify this bloody awful mess. I can do nothing. How others react to the avalanche of bad news is entirely up to them but a long life on this planet has taught me a few things and one of the most valuable has been if you have nothing positive or pleasant to say it's best to shut the ferk up until you do. I don't always succeed in that aim but I try to stick to it as I do not want to make any negative situation worse than it already is by stupid, ill considered, ignorant, unnecessarily emotional comments or deeds. The only thing I'm sure of is I'm going to enjoy every single team, every single season I have left on the planet and every one is going to be better than the last one.
Admirable Attitude. But not one I am in tune with. I am also not young. But I believe in criticism where criticism is due and I won't shut up for the sake of a quiet life. I am prepared to give it and take it. But I am not prepared to shut up or to show deference to people who don't deserve it. The lack of communication from the board really annoys me after we were given assurances by RK it would be different with him at the helm. It's no different than when Cortese was in charge. RK has had time to update us but hasn't. Why? What is the Strategy?

I want an optimistic realistic life as a Saints supporter. Not one with ten coats of self applied delusional gloss on it because the people in charge keep us in the dark! Is KL here for the long run or just for the short term? I would like know from her!

Yesterday Cheltenham Saint wrote a great piece and said we should be trying to emulate Everton. Something I whole heartedly agree with in principal. But it is not comparing like with like. Everton are a stable club with stable ownership and a stable board. And an ex-manager (Moyes) who was there 14 years and a chairman (Kenwright) who seems to have been there forever.

In comparison we are an unstable club with a high turn of owners, directors and managers. We have had five managers since the Liebherrs bought the club. In the last 12 years it has been God knows how many, and the same with CEO's and directors. We've had great success in the past five years and I have enjoyed every minute of it.

That is why I get frustrated, because until we get continuity, stability and trust between the owners, the management team and the supporters, there will always be turmoil in the background. And personally I am fed up with it. To move forward as one we need stability, continuity and a public strategy. We don't have it.

Good luck with your quiet life its not for me.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!![/p][/quote]There are none so blind as those who will not see.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment![/p][/quote]You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.? Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief. And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked. I look forward to your reply.[/p][/quote]Maybe it's just that we realize being negative is not going to achieve a single thing except make a miserable situation worse than it already is. No sane person wants to lose the backbone of their team in the way we have. No idea what has really happened since XMAS to shake them all up - we can all speculate and occasionally get close to the truth maybe but none of us know for sure. No real point in getting all bent out of shape for something we have no control over whatsoever. I prefer to stay calm, optimistic and put my faith in the people who are paid to rectify this bloody awful mess. I can do nothing. How others react to the avalanche of bad news is entirely up to them but a long life on this planet has taught me a few things and one of the most valuable has been if you have nothing positive or pleasant to say it's best to shut the ferk up until you do. I don't always succeed in that aim but I try to stick to it as I do not want to make any negative situation worse than it already is by stupid, ill considered, ignorant, unnecessarily emotional comments or deeds. The only thing I'm sure of is I'm going to enjoy every single team, every single season I have left on the planet and every one is going to be better than the last one.[/p][/quote]Admirable Attitude. But not one I am in tune with. I am also not young. But I believe in criticism where criticism is due and I won't shut up for the sake of a quiet life. I am prepared to give it and take it. But I am not prepared to shut up or to show deference to people who don't deserve it. The lack of communication from the board really annoys me after we were given assurances by RK it would be different with him at the helm. It's no different than when Cortese was in charge. RK has had time to update us but hasn't. Why? What is the Strategy? I want an optimistic realistic life as a Saints supporter. Not one with ten coats of self applied delusional gloss on it because the people in charge keep us in the dark! Is KL here for the long run or just for the short term? I would like know from her! Yesterday Cheltenham Saint wrote a great piece and said we should be trying to emulate Everton. Something I whole heartedly agree with in principal. But it is not comparing like with like. Everton are a stable club with stable ownership and a stable board. And an ex-manager (Moyes) who was there 14 years and a chairman (Kenwright) who seems to have been there forever. In comparison we are an unstable club with a high turn of owners, directors and managers. We have had five managers since the Liebherrs bought the club. In the last 12 years it has been God knows how many, and the same with CEO's and directors. We've had great success in the past five years and I have enjoyed every minute of it. That is why I get frustrated, because until we get continuity, stability and trust between the owners, the management team and the supporters, there will always be turmoil in the background. And personally I am fed up with it. To move forward as one we need stability, continuity and a public strategy. We don't have it. Good luck with your quiet life its not for me. george chivers
  • Score: 8

10:32am Wed 23 Jul 14

SaintJD says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
jls217 wrote:
BarnetSaint wrote:
Has there been any word from Kruger or Reed?
It would be quite reassuring to hear something positive from them!
No it would not - the only people we need to be hearing from are the Rambo brothers, the others should just keep quiet and not be seen. They do what they need to do in the background, it's the Koeman bros who are the face and the voice of this club now.
Nailed it Jls!
I think BarnetSaint might have been being ironic/sarcastic. I don't want to hear any more words from Les of Ralph because thus far it's done nothing to reassure me and hasn't made them look great either. They'd be completely happy to know they will be judged on their actions. This is what will reassure Saints fans, not words. And if they pull it off, they deserve any acclaim they get - you can't blame them for the bad and not congratulate them for the good - they brought Ronald in and if he's a success they deserve the credit.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BarnetSaint[/bold] wrote: Has there been any word from Kruger or Reed? It would be quite reassuring to hear something positive from them![/p][/quote]No it would not - the only people we need to be hearing from are the Rambo brothers, the others should just keep quiet and not be seen. They do what they need to do in the background, it's the Koeman bros who are the face and the voice of this club now.[/p][/quote]Nailed it Jls![/p][/quote]I think BarnetSaint might have been being ironic/sarcastic. I don't want to hear any more words from Les of Ralph because thus far it's done nothing to reassure me and hasn't made them look great either. They'd be completely happy to know they will be judged on their actions. This is what will reassure Saints fans, not words. And if they pull it off, they deserve any acclaim they get - you can't blame them for the bad and not congratulate them for the good - they brought Ronald in and if he's a success they deserve the credit. SaintJD
  • Score: 10

10:37am Wed 23 Jul 14

SaintJD says...

notaclue wrote:
The way things stand right now it is difficult to see which experienced outfield player is a guaranteed starter this season apart from Fonte.

Don't think SD will play every game but he is a capable captain no doubt.

Morgans head is not in the right place to lead our team.

So the choice is not that difficult is it?

Fonte it is!
Not if we bring in a natural leader it isn't. Vlaar would make a decent captain. New era, new manager, new leader on the pitch, no baggage.

And, if we don't go down that route, Cork isn't such a bad choice and, at present, I'd say he's going to be a nailed on starter, or he should be.
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: The way things stand right now it is difficult to see which experienced outfield player is a guaranteed starter this season apart from Fonte. Don't think SD will play every game but he is a capable captain no doubt. Morgans head is not in the right place to lead our team. So the choice is not that difficult is it? Fonte it is![/p][/quote]Not if we bring in a natural leader it isn't. Vlaar would make a decent captain. New era, new manager, new leader on the pitch, no baggage. And, if we don't go down that route, Cork isn't such a bad choice and, at present, I'd say he's going to be a nailed on starter, or he should be. SaintJD
  • Score: 5

10:38am Wed 23 Jul 14

Harold K Steptoe says...

justaSaintsfan wrote:
Harold K Steptoe wrote:
It's because he's the only player not off to Pool, Spurs or Arse .
According to you, Saints will have only one player next season! Every game will therefore be forfeited and the club will be relegated, with a record points haul of zero.

Are you going to tell us next that your horse, Hercules, has died?

Please hang in there. Life will go on. Saints will get the required new players. You can get a new horse! Positivity is the only sensible way to go.

I hope the rag and bone trade soon improves for you, Harold!
I've sold me horse bought a fake Romainian passport and am now living is life of comfort in my large council house. This leaves me free on Saturdays to offer my services to saints for the relegation battle.
[quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harold K Steptoe[/bold] wrote: It's because he's the only player not off to Pool, Spurs or Arse .[/p][/quote]According to you, Saints will have only one player next season! Every game will therefore be forfeited and the club will be relegated, with a record points haul of zero. Are you going to tell us next that your horse, Hercules, has died? Please hang in there. Life will go on. Saints will get the required new players. You can get a new horse! Positivity is the only sensible way to go. I hope the rag and bone trade soon improves for you, Harold![/p][/quote]I've sold me horse bought a fake Romainian passport and am now living is life of comfort in my large council house. This leaves me free on Saturdays to offer my services to saints for the relegation battle. Harold K Steptoe
  • Score: 4

10:53am Wed 23 Jul 14

techsture says...

I suggest everyone bangs their entire life savings on Liverpool at 2/5 at least there's money to be made from this debacle.
I suggest everyone bangs their entire life savings on Liverpool at 2/5 at least there's money to be made from this debacle. techsture
  • Score: 1

11:10am Wed 23 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

techsture wrote:
I suggest everyone bangs their entire life savings on Liverpool at 2/5 at least there's money to be made from this debacle.
To do what exactly?
[quote][p][bold]techsture[/bold] wrote: I suggest everyone bangs their entire life savings on Liverpool at 2/5 at least there's money to be made from this debacle.[/p][/quote]To do what exactly? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -2

11:13am Wed 23 Jul 14

mack chinnon says...

I blame the pasta eating surrender monkey.
I blame the pasta eating surrender monkey. mack chinnon
  • Score: 5

11:17am Wed 23 Jul 14

Bazultra says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Fonte has the attributes of a captain for sure. But what everyone seems to have forgotten is that of the three additions identified at the end of last season one was a CB to relegate Jose to the bench. Whilst a whole hearted defender, and greatly improved alongside Lovren, his lack of pace means he gets turned and has to grab shirts. How will he captain from the bench or is this official confirmation that the ambition has indeed gone?
I agree completely and couldnt care less about thumbs dow. Fonte was brilliant for us in league 1 and the championship he was ok too. For that matter so was hoiveld. Having said that neither of them could keep pace in the premier league and both had to resort to giving away penalties and constantly pulling players and their shirts. Not premier league standard but ok for back up.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Fonte has the attributes of a captain for sure. But what everyone seems to have forgotten is that of the three additions identified at the end of last season one was a CB to relegate Jose to the bench. Whilst a whole hearted defender, and greatly improved alongside Lovren, his lack of pace means he gets turned and has to grab shirts. How will he captain from the bench or is this official confirmation that the ambition has indeed gone?[/p][/quote]I agree completely and couldnt care less about thumbs dow. Fonte was brilliant for us in league 1 and the championship he was ok too. For that matter so was hoiveld. Having said that neither of them could keep pace in the premier league and both had to resort to giving away penalties and constantly pulling players and their shirts. Not premier league standard but ok for back up. Bazultra
  • Score: 2

11:18am Wed 23 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

SaintJD wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
jls217 wrote:
BarnetSaint wrote:
Has there been any word from Kruger or Reed?
It would be quite reassuring to hear something positive from them!
No it would not - the only people we need to be hearing from are the Rambo brothers, the others should just keep quiet and not be seen. They do what they need to do in the background, it's the Koeman bros who are the face and the voice of this club now.
Nailed it Jls!
I think BarnetSaint might have been being ironic/sarcastic. I don't want to hear any more words from Les of Ralph because thus far it's done nothing to reassure me and hasn't made them look great either. They'd be completely happy to know they will be judged on their actions. This is what will reassure Saints fans, not words. And if they pull it off, they deserve any acclaim they get - you can't blame them for the bad and not congratulate them for the good - they brought Ronald in and if he's a success they deserve the credit.
Les of Ralph, is this more of the Borg collective thing?

Daft?

I know, I am only teasing.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BarnetSaint[/bold] wrote: Has there been any word from Kruger or Reed? It would be quite reassuring to hear something positive from them![/p][/quote]No it would not - the only people we need to be hearing from are the Rambo brothers, the others should just keep quiet and not be seen. They do what they need to do in the background, it's the Koeman bros who are the face and the voice of this club now.[/p][/quote]Nailed it Jls![/p][/quote]I think BarnetSaint might have been being ironic/sarcastic. I don't want to hear any more words from Les of Ralph because thus far it's done nothing to reassure me and hasn't made them look great either. They'd be completely happy to know they will be judged on their actions. This is what will reassure Saints fans, not words. And if they pull it off, they deserve any acclaim they get - you can't blame them for the bad and not congratulate them for the good - they brought Ronald in and if he's a success they deserve the credit.[/p][/quote]Les of Ralph, is this more of the Borg collective thing? Daft? I know, I am only teasing. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -7

11:35am Wed 23 Jul 14

justaSaintsfan says...

george chivers wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment!
You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.?

Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief.

And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked.

I look forward to your reply.
George, thank you for your Tesco analogy. The thing about going shopping (other than online) is that one needs to wait until the shop is open to find out the full range of goods that are available. When the shop is closed, restocking takes place. We are in the close season. Saints have sold some stock and are in the midst of restocking.

I do not have any insider knowledge, nor do the neggie veggies. None of my post remotely suggested that I have any insider knowledge. We know that Saints have sold their manager and replaced him. We know that three players have been sold. We know that two players have been bought. Those are all facts.

What I am saying is that there is a long time to go until the transfer window closes. It is common knowledge that the club intends to buy more players. I notice that Tesco do not shout it from the rooftops whom they are going to employ. Neither do Saints!

Any fool should know that football is a highly unpredictable business regarding results. It is also highly unpredictable about how good any new player will be at his club. For all we know, Adam Lallana could be a flop at Liverhampton, or he might be a great success. What we do know is that Liverhampton have good infrastructure. Things are in place there so as to help all possible success. Restocking is happening there also, but there is no guarantee of success. What is for certain, though, is that hard work and a positive outlook both help toward attaining any success.

Anyway, George, let us look at what the neggie veggies are doing. Some of them are saying that Ronald Koeman is not a good manager. Some of them are saying that Katharina is asset stripping Saints, despite the club saying that money from player sales is available for player purchases. Some negative posters are basically saying that Ralph Kruger and Les Reed are rubbish. I don't believe any of that negativity, but I respect their entitlement to their opinions and their right to voice those opinions in this forum.

My great wish is for all the negative posters to show some patience and wait and see what happens. The transfer window is still open and all football clubs are selling clubs, including the richest clubs. I am not reassuring anyone of anything. The reassurances will come from player arrivals. I reiterate that this is the close season. This is a situation a little like Tesco, when all their shops are closed and there are still many people working in the background.

Once again, thank you so much for your Tesco analogy. Philip Clarke, Tesco's CEO resigned a couple of days ago. What a coincidence! Nicola Cortese resigned from Saints a while ago. Life does go on!
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!![/p][/quote]There are none so blind as those who will not see.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment![/p][/quote]You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.? Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief. And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked. I look forward to your reply.[/p][/quote]George, thank you for your Tesco analogy. The thing about going shopping (other than online) is that one needs to wait until the shop is open to find out the full range of goods that are available. When the shop is closed, restocking takes place. We are in the close season. Saints have sold some stock and are in the midst of restocking. I do not have any insider knowledge, nor do the neggie veggies. None of my post remotely suggested that I have any insider knowledge. We know that Saints have sold their manager and replaced him. We know that three players have been sold. We know that two players have been bought. Those are all facts. What I am saying is that there is a long time to go until the transfer window closes. It is common knowledge that the club intends to buy more players. I notice that Tesco do not shout it from the rooftops whom they are going to employ. Neither do Saints! Any fool should know that football is a highly unpredictable business regarding results. It is also highly unpredictable about how good any new player will be at his club. For all we know, Adam Lallana could be a flop at Liverhampton, or he might be a great success. What we do know is that Liverhampton have good infrastructure. Things are in place there so as to help all possible success. Restocking is happening there also, but there is no guarantee of success. What is for certain, though, is that hard work and a positive outlook both help toward attaining any success. Anyway, George, let us look at what the neggie veggies are doing. Some of them are saying that Ronald Koeman is not a good manager. Some of them are saying that Katharina is asset stripping Saints, despite the club saying that money from player sales is available for player purchases. Some negative posters are basically saying that Ralph Kruger and Les Reed are rubbish. I don't believe any of that negativity, but I respect their entitlement to their opinions and their right to voice those opinions in this forum. My great wish is for all the negative posters to show some patience and wait and see what happens. The transfer window is still open and all football clubs are selling clubs, including the richest clubs. I am not reassuring anyone of anything. The reassurances will come from player arrivals. I reiterate that this is the close season. This is a situation a little like Tesco, when all their shops are closed and there are still many people working in the background. Once again, thank you so much for your Tesco analogy. Philip Clarke, Tesco's CEO resigned a couple of days ago. What a coincidence! Nicola Cortese resigned from Saints a while ago. Life does go on! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: 1

11:45am Wed 23 Jul 14

justaSaintsfan says...

Berkshire Saint wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
The point most people are making is that it's difficult to remain calm and see the bigger picture when 90% of news surrounding Saints involves our best players leaving before replacements have been brought in. We all sincerely hope that it works out for Ron but we've gone from needing one or two new additions to strengthen the team to a rebuilding exercise. We're just fearful that we won't hit the ground running in 3 weeks time.
I have been a Saints fan for a long time. Saints seldom hit the ground running! Lol!
[quote][p][bold]Berkshire Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!![/p][/quote]The point most people are making is that it's difficult to remain calm and see the bigger picture when 90% of news surrounding Saints involves our best players leaving before replacements have been brought in. We all sincerely hope that it works out for Ron but we've gone from needing one or two new additions to strengthen the team to a rebuilding exercise. We're just fearful that we won't hit the ground running in 3 weeks time.[/p][/quote]I have been a Saints fan for a long time. Saints seldom hit the ground running! Lol! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: -5

11:49am Wed 23 Jul 14

justaSaintsfan says...

jls217 wrote:
george chivers wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment!
You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.?

Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief.

And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked.

I look forward to your reply.
Maybe it's just that we realize being negative is not going to achieve a single thing except make a miserable situation worse than it already is. No sane person wants to lose the backbone of their team in the way we have.
No idea what has really happened since XMAS to shake them all up - we can all speculate and occasionally get close to the truth maybe but none of us know for sure.
No real point in getting all bent out of shape for something we have no control over whatsoever.
I prefer to stay calm, optimistic and put my faith in the people who are paid to rectify this bloody awful mess. I can do nothing. How others react to the avalanche of bad news is entirely up to them but a long life on this planet has taught me a few things and one of the most valuable has been if you have nothing positive or pleasant to say it's best to shut the ferk up until you do. I don't always succeed in that aim but I try to stick to it as I do not want to make any negative situation worse than it already is by stupid, ill considered, ignorant, unnecessarily emotional comments or deeds. The only thing I'm sure of is I'm going to enjoy every single team, every single season I have left on the planet and every one is going to be better than the last one.
GOAL!!! What a great post. It was my pleasure to read it!
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!![/p][/quote]There are none so blind as those who will not see.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment![/p][/quote]You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.? Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief. And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked. I look forward to your reply.[/p][/quote]Maybe it's just that we realize being negative is not going to achieve a single thing except make a miserable situation worse than it already is. No sane person wants to lose the backbone of their team in the way we have. No idea what has really happened since XMAS to shake them all up - we can all speculate and occasionally get close to the truth maybe but none of us know for sure. No real point in getting all bent out of shape for something we have no control over whatsoever. I prefer to stay calm, optimistic and put my faith in the people who are paid to rectify this bloody awful mess. I can do nothing. How others react to the avalanche of bad news is entirely up to them but a long life on this planet has taught me a few things and one of the most valuable has been if you have nothing positive or pleasant to say it's best to shut the ferk up until you do. I don't always succeed in that aim but I try to stick to it as I do not want to make any negative situation worse than it already is by stupid, ill considered, ignorant, unnecessarily emotional comments or deeds. The only thing I'm sure of is I'm going to enjoy every single team, every single season I have left on the planet and every one is going to be better than the last one.[/p][/quote]GOAL!!! What a great post. It was my pleasure to read it! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: -3

11:53am Wed 23 Jul 14

justaSaintsfan says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment!
You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.?

Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief.

And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked.

I look forward to your reply.
Blimey George, you've changed your tune!

Have a good day all, I'm off barbel fishing.
I am getting visions of a bloke with a long white beard and a pointy Saints bobble hat sat on a stool!
Santa Claus? Lol!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!![/p][/quote]There are none so blind as those who will not see.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment![/p][/quote]You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.? Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief. And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked. I look forward to your reply.[/p][/quote]Blimey George, you've changed your tune! Have a good day all, I'm off barbel fishing.[/p][/quote]I am getting visions of a bloke with a long white beard and a pointy Saints bobble hat sat on a stool![/p][/quote]Santa Claus? Lol! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: -5

11:55am Wed 23 Jul 14

justaSaintsfan says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
Sammy will sort that for you!
Ha! Ha! Ha!
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!![/p][/quote]Sammy will sort that for you![/p][/quote]Ha! Ha! Ha! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: -6

12:00pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Les Miserables says...

notaclue wrote:
The way things stand right now it is difficult to see which experienced outfield player is a guaranteed starter this season apart from Fonte.

Don't think SD will play every game but he is a capable captain no doubt.

Morgans head is not in the right place to lead our team.

So the choice is not that difficult is it?

Fonte it is!
What has Morgan said that suggests his head is "not in the right place"? He has said that he wants to play at the top level - no problem, he has said that he would like to play for one of Europe's big clubs, so what. Every player has ambitions or should have, ask any professional in the lower leagues and their ambition will be to play in the Prem - BUT THEY DONT ALWAYS GET THERE DO THEY!!
Everything else Morgan has said (as opposed to the Red Top speculation) has been perfectly natural ie that he will speak to the manager to find out his aims and the clubs objectives.
Koeman can only judge what he has seen so far with regard to players and their suitability/attitude to captaincy so understandably Jose being a senior player looks ok right now.
Morgan is due back at the end of the week, lets see what he says then rather than play the tabloid games of "invent a quote".
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: The way things stand right now it is difficult to see which experienced outfield player is a guaranteed starter this season apart from Fonte. Don't think SD will play every game but he is a capable captain no doubt. Morgans head is not in the right place to lead our team. So the choice is not that difficult is it? Fonte it is![/p][/quote]What has Morgan said that suggests his head is "not in the right place"? He has said that he wants to play at the top level - no problem, he has said that he would like to play for one of Europe's big clubs, so what. Every player has ambitions or should have, ask any professional in the lower leagues and their ambition will be to play in the Prem - BUT THEY DONT ALWAYS GET THERE DO THEY!! Everything else Morgan has said (as opposed to the Red Top speculation) has been perfectly natural ie that he will speak to the manager to find out his aims and the clubs objectives. Koeman can only judge what he has seen so far with regard to players and their suitability/attitude to captaincy so understandably Jose being a senior player looks ok right now. Morgan is due back at the end of the week, lets see what he says then rather than play the tabloid games of "invent a quote". Les Miserables
  • Score: -5

12:26pm Wed 23 Jul 14

george chivers says...

justaSaintsfan wrote:
george chivers wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment!
You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.?

Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief.

And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked.

I look forward to your reply.
George, thank you for your Tesco analogy. The thing about going shopping (other than online) is that one needs to wait until the shop is open to find out the full range of goods that are available. When the shop is closed, restocking takes place. We are in the close season. Saints have sold some stock and are in the midst of restocking.

I do not have any insider knowledge, nor do the neggie veggies. None of my post remotely suggested that I have any insider knowledge. We know that Saints have sold their manager and replaced him. We know that three players have been sold. We know that two players have been bought. Those are all facts.

What I am saying is that there is a long time to go until the transfer window closes. It is common knowledge that the club intends to buy more players. I notice that Tesco do not shout it from the rooftops whom they are going to employ. Neither do Saints!

Any fool should know that football is a highly unpredictable business regarding results. It is also highly unpredictable about how good any new player will be at his club. For all we know, Adam Lallana could be a flop at Liverhampton, or he might be a great success. What we do know is that Liverhampton have good infrastructure. Things are in place there so as to help all possible success. Restocking is happening there also, but there is no guarantee of success. What is for certain, though, is that hard work and a positive outlook both help toward attaining any success.

Anyway, George, let us look at what the neggie veggies are doing. Some of them are saying that Ronald Koeman is not a good manager. Some of them are saying that Katharina is asset stripping Saints, despite the club saying that money from player sales is available for player purchases. Some negative posters are basically saying that Ralph Kruger and Les Reed are rubbish. I don't believe any of that negativity, but I respect their entitlement to their opinions and their right to voice those opinions in this forum.

My great wish is for all the negative posters to show some patience and wait and see what happens. The transfer window is still open and all football clubs are selling clubs, including the richest clubs. I am not reassuring anyone of anything. The reassurances will come from player arrivals. I reiterate that this is the close season. This is a situation a little like Tesco, when all their shops are closed and there are still many people working in the background.

Once again, thank you so much for your Tesco analogy. Philip Clarke, Tesco's CEO resigned a couple of days ago. What a coincidence! Nicola Cortese resigned from Saints a while ago. Life does go on!
And they announced his replacement the day after. Dave Lewis. We don't do that when we sell our best players.
[quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!![/p][/quote]There are none so blind as those who will not see.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment![/p][/quote]You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.? Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief. And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked. I look forward to your reply.[/p][/quote]George, thank you for your Tesco analogy. The thing about going shopping (other than online) is that one needs to wait until the shop is open to find out the full range of goods that are available. When the shop is closed, restocking takes place. We are in the close season. Saints have sold some stock and are in the midst of restocking. I do not have any insider knowledge, nor do the neggie veggies. None of my post remotely suggested that I have any insider knowledge. We know that Saints have sold their manager and replaced him. We know that three players have been sold. We know that two players have been bought. Those are all facts. What I am saying is that there is a long time to go until the transfer window closes. It is common knowledge that the club intends to buy more players. I notice that Tesco do not shout it from the rooftops whom they are going to employ. Neither do Saints! Any fool should know that football is a highly unpredictable business regarding results. It is also highly unpredictable about how good any new player will be at his club. For all we know, Adam Lallana could be a flop at Liverhampton, or he might be a great success. What we do know is that Liverhampton have good infrastructure. Things are in place there so as to help all possible success. Restocking is happening there also, but there is no guarantee of success. What is for certain, though, is that hard work and a positive outlook both help toward attaining any success. Anyway, George, let us look at what the neggie veggies are doing. Some of them are saying that Ronald Koeman is not a good manager. Some of them are saying that Katharina is asset stripping Saints, despite the club saying that money from player sales is available for player purchases. Some negative posters are basically saying that Ralph Kruger and Les Reed are rubbish. I don't believe any of that negativity, but I respect their entitlement to their opinions and their right to voice those opinions in this forum. My great wish is for all the negative posters to show some patience and wait and see what happens. The transfer window is still open and all football clubs are selling clubs, including the richest clubs. I am not reassuring anyone of anything. The reassurances will come from player arrivals. I reiterate that this is the close season. This is a situation a little like Tesco, when all their shops are closed and there are still many people working in the background. Once again, thank you so much for your Tesco analogy. Philip Clarke, Tesco's CEO resigned a couple of days ago. What a coincidence! Nicola Cortese resigned from Saints a while ago. Life does go on![/p][/quote]And they announced his replacement the day after. Dave Lewis. We don't do that when we sell our best players. george chivers
  • Score: 8

12:27pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Mister E says...

justaSaintsfan wrote:
george chivers wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment!
You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.?

Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief.

And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked.

I look forward to your reply.
George, thank you for your Tesco analogy. The thing about going shopping (other than online) is that one needs to wait until the shop is open to find out the full range of goods that are available. When the shop is closed, restocking takes place. We are in the close season. Saints have sold some stock and are in the midst of restocking.

I do not have any insider knowledge, nor do the neggie veggies. None of my post remotely suggested that I have any insider knowledge. We know that Saints have sold their manager and replaced him. We know that three players have been sold. We know that two players have been bought. Those are all facts.

What I am saying is that there is a long time to go until the transfer window closes. It is common knowledge that the club intends to buy more players. I notice that Tesco do not shout it from the rooftops whom they are going to employ. Neither do Saints!

Any fool should know that football is a highly unpredictable business regarding results. It is also highly unpredictable about how good any new player will be at his club. For all we know, Adam Lallana could be a flop at Liverhampton, or he might be a great success. What we do know is that Liverhampton have good infrastructure. Things are in place there so as to help all possible success. Restocking is happening there also, but there is no guarantee of success. What is for certain, though, is that hard work and a positive outlook both help toward attaining any success.

Anyway, George, let us look at what the neggie veggies are doing. Some of them are saying that Ronald Koeman is not a good manager. Some of them are saying that Katharina is asset stripping Saints, despite the club saying that money from player sales is available for player purchases. Some negative posters are basically saying that Ralph Kruger and Les Reed are rubbish. I don't believe any of that negativity, but I respect their entitlement to their opinions and their right to voice those opinions in this forum.

My great wish is for all the negative posters to show some patience and wait and see what happens. The transfer window is still open and all football clubs are selling clubs, including the richest clubs. I am not reassuring anyone of anything. The reassurances will come from player arrivals. I reiterate that this is the close season. This is a situation a little like Tesco, when all their shops are closed and there are still many people working in the background.

Once again, thank you so much for your Tesco analogy. Philip Clarke, Tesco's CEO resigned a couple of days ago. What a coincidence! Nicola Cortese resigned from Saints a while ago. Life does go on!
Well said!
Do some on here really think that Ralph, Les and the Board etc sit around doing nothing in between Daily Echo articles? That the only time they do anything is react if a player leaves or suggests he might? Really? Coz that's what it sounds like.
I have little doubt there is a whole lot of activity going on and quite rightly the club is conducting it's business without fanfare. As frustrating as it is (for me as well) I wouldn't have it any other way.
I would rather time is taken to acquire quality than hurriedly splash the cash on quantity that's mediocre at best!
I might be wrong, of course, but I reserve my final judgment until the start of the new season. I will be as worried and angry as any fan if by then we are not any better off than we are today!
This doesn't make me "blind"! My eyes are wide open, I see two players have arrived and we are interested in others - facts! We got shot of players who, for their own reasons, didn't want to be here anymore. And we got paid handsomely - facts! Two more players are unsettled - facts! Let's see how the club handles this. So let's give them the chance to do just that!
[quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!![/p][/quote]There are none so blind as those who will not see.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment![/p][/quote]You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.? Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief. And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked. I look forward to your reply.[/p][/quote]George, thank you for your Tesco analogy. The thing about going shopping (other than online) is that one needs to wait until the shop is open to find out the full range of goods that are available. When the shop is closed, restocking takes place. We are in the close season. Saints have sold some stock and are in the midst of restocking. I do not have any insider knowledge, nor do the neggie veggies. None of my post remotely suggested that I have any insider knowledge. We know that Saints have sold their manager and replaced him. We know that three players have been sold. We know that two players have been bought. Those are all facts. What I am saying is that there is a long time to go until the transfer window closes. It is common knowledge that the club intends to buy more players. I notice that Tesco do not shout it from the rooftops whom they are going to employ. Neither do Saints! Any fool should know that football is a highly unpredictable business regarding results. It is also highly unpredictable about how good any new player will be at his club. For all we know, Adam Lallana could be a flop at Liverhampton, or he might be a great success. What we do know is that Liverhampton have good infrastructure. Things are in place there so as to help all possible success. Restocking is happening there also, but there is no guarantee of success. What is for certain, though, is that hard work and a positive outlook both help toward attaining any success. Anyway, George, let us look at what the neggie veggies are doing. Some of them are saying that Ronald Koeman is not a good manager. Some of them are saying that Katharina is asset stripping Saints, despite the club saying that money from player sales is available for player purchases. Some negative posters are basically saying that Ralph Kruger and Les Reed are rubbish. I don't believe any of that negativity, but I respect their entitlement to their opinions and their right to voice those opinions in this forum. My great wish is for all the negative posters to show some patience and wait and see what happens. The transfer window is still open and all football clubs are selling clubs, including the richest clubs. I am not reassuring anyone of anything. The reassurances will come from player arrivals. I reiterate that this is the close season. This is a situation a little like Tesco, when all their shops are closed and there are still many people working in the background. Once again, thank you so much for your Tesco analogy. Philip Clarke, Tesco's CEO resigned a couple of days ago. What a coincidence! Nicola Cortese resigned from Saints a while ago. Life does go on![/p][/quote]Well said! Do some on here really think that Ralph, Les and the Board etc sit around doing nothing in between Daily Echo articles? That the only time they do anything is react if a player leaves or suggests he might? Really? Coz that's what it sounds like. I have little doubt there is a whole lot of activity going on and quite rightly the club is conducting it's business without fanfare. As frustrating as it is (for me as well) I wouldn't have it any other way. I would rather time is taken to acquire quality than hurriedly splash the cash on quantity that's mediocre at best! I might be wrong, of course, but I reserve my final judgment until the start of the new season. I will be as worried and angry as any fan if by then we are not any better off than we are today! This doesn't make me "blind"! My eyes are wide open, I see two players have arrived and we are interested in others - facts! We got shot of players who, for their own reasons, didn't want to be here anymore. And we got paid handsomely - facts! Two more players are unsettled - facts! Let's see how the club handles this. So let's give them the chance to do just that! Mister E
  • Score: -10

12:51pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Stnana says...

Hey Osprey it's all over Twitter that Fonte has refused to sign a 2year contract extension, so maybe I really did know just a little bit more than you thought. Do you still really believe that Cork has not also been offered an extension ? Hope an offer of captaincy will change his mind., but again I'm not going to hold my breath. Anyone know where saintlysoul and his inside information is ? Strange how he hasn't posted since the departure of AL.
Hey Osprey it's all over Twitter that Fonte has refused to sign a 2year contract extension, so maybe I really did know just a little bit more than you thought. Do you still really believe that Cork has not also been offered an extension ? Hope an offer of captaincy will change his mind., but again I'm not going to hold my breath. Anyone know where saintlysoul and his inside information is ? Strange how he hasn't posted since the departure of AL. Stnana
  • Score: 3

1:04pm Wed 23 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Stnana wrote:
Hey Osprey it's all over Twitter that Fonte has refused to sign a 2year contract extension, so maybe I really did know just a little bit more than you thought. Do you still really believe that Cork has not also been offered an extension ? Hope an offer of captaincy will change his mind., but again I'm not going to hold my breath. Anyone know where saintlysoul and his inside information is ? Strange how he hasn't posted since the departure of AL.
It started in the Star last night, as you would have known if you keep up on NewsNow, they also said we had been pipped over the signing of Mauricio Isla, I am not sure which is the biggest pack of lies.
[quote][p][bold]Stnana[/bold] wrote: Hey Osprey it's all over Twitter that Fonte has refused to sign a 2year contract extension, so maybe I really did know just a little bit more than you thought. Do you still really believe that Cork has not also been offered an extension ? Hope an offer of captaincy will change his mind., but again I'm not going to hold my breath. Anyone know where saintlysoul and his inside information is ? Strange how he hasn't posted since the departure of AL.[/p][/quote]It started in the Star last night, as you would have known if you keep up on NewsNow, they also said we had been pipped over the signing of Mauricio Isla, I am not sure which is the biggest pack of lies. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -7

1:08pm Wed 23 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Mister E wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
george chivers wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment!
You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.?

Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief.

And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked.

I look forward to your reply.
George, thank you for your Tesco analogy. The thing about going shopping (other than online) is that one needs to wait until the shop is open to find out the full range of goods that are available. When the shop is closed, restocking takes place. We are in the close season. Saints have sold some stock and are in the midst of restocking.

I do not have any insider knowledge, nor do the neggie veggies. None of my post remotely suggested that I have any insider knowledge. We know that Saints have sold their manager and replaced him. We know that three players have been sold. We know that two players have been bought. Those are all facts.

What I am saying is that there is a long time to go until the transfer window closes. It is common knowledge that the club intends to buy more players. I notice that Tesco do not shout it from the rooftops whom they are going to employ. Neither do Saints!

Any fool should know that football is a highly unpredictable business regarding results. It is also highly unpredictable about how good any new player will be at his club. For all we know, Adam Lallana could be a flop at Liverhampton, or he might be a great success. What we do know is that Liverhampton have good infrastructure. Things are in place there so as to help all possible success. Restocking is happening there also, but there is no guarantee of success. What is for certain, though, is that hard work and a positive outlook both help toward attaining any success.

Anyway, George, let us look at what the neggie veggies are doing. Some of them are saying that Ronald Koeman is not a good manager. Some of them are saying that Katharina is asset stripping Saints, despite the club saying that money from player sales is available for player purchases. Some negative posters are basically saying that Ralph Kruger and Les Reed are rubbish. I don't believe any of that negativity, but I respect their entitlement to their opinions and their right to voice those opinions in this forum.

My great wish is for all the negative posters to show some patience and wait and see what happens. The transfer window is still open and all football clubs are selling clubs, including the richest clubs. I am not reassuring anyone of anything. The reassurances will come from player arrivals. I reiterate that this is the close season. This is a situation a little like Tesco, when all their shops are closed and there are still many people working in the background.

Once again, thank you so much for your Tesco analogy. Philip Clarke, Tesco's CEO resigned a couple of days ago. What a coincidence! Nicola Cortese resigned from Saints a while ago. Life does go on!
Well said!
Do some on here really think that Ralph, Les and the Board etc sit around doing nothing in between Daily Echo articles? That the only time they do anything is react if a player leaves or suggests he might? Really? Coz that's what it sounds like.
I have little doubt there is a whole lot of activity going on and quite rightly the club is conducting it's business without fanfare. As frustrating as it is (for me as well) I wouldn't have it any other way.
I would rather time is taken to acquire quality than hurriedly splash the cash on quantity that's mediocre at best!
I might be wrong, of course, but I reserve my final judgment until the start of the new season. I will be as worried and angry as any fan if by then we are not any better off than we are today!
This doesn't make me "blind"! My eyes are wide open, I see two players have arrived and we are interested in others - facts! We got shot of players who, for their own reasons, didn't want to be here anymore. And we got paid handsomely - facts! Two more players are unsettled - facts! Let's see how the club handles this. So let's give them the chance to do just that!
Just one twitter message that I saw said Ralph K is over in the States trying to set up a Saints connected Academy, how true that is I have no idea, no source quoted and I can't find any other references, but it would make sense considering how the enthusiasm for Soccer has taken off over there since the World Cup
[quote][p][bold]Mister E[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!![/p][/quote]There are none so blind as those who will not see.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment![/p][/quote]You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.? Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief. And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked. I look forward to your reply.[/p][/quote]George, thank you for your Tesco analogy. The thing about going shopping (other than online) is that one needs to wait until the shop is open to find out the full range of goods that are available. When the shop is closed, restocking takes place. We are in the close season. Saints have sold some stock and are in the midst of restocking. I do not have any insider knowledge, nor do the neggie veggies. None of my post remotely suggested that I have any insider knowledge. We know that Saints have sold their manager and replaced him. We know that three players have been sold. We know that two players have been bought. Those are all facts. What I am saying is that there is a long time to go until the transfer window closes. It is common knowledge that the club intends to buy more players. I notice that Tesco do not shout it from the rooftops whom they are going to employ. Neither do Saints! Any fool should know that football is a highly unpredictable business regarding results. It is also highly unpredictable about how good any new player will be at his club. For all we know, Adam Lallana could be a flop at Liverhampton, or he might be a great success. What we do know is that Liverhampton have good infrastructure. Things are in place there so as to help all possible success. Restocking is happening there also, but there is no guarantee of success. What is for certain, though, is that hard work and a positive outlook both help toward attaining any success. Anyway, George, let us look at what the neggie veggies are doing. Some of them are saying that Ronald Koeman is not a good manager. Some of them are saying that Katharina is asset stripping Saints, despite the club saying that money from player sales is available for player purchases. Some negative posters are basically saying that Ralph Kruger and Les Reed are rubbish. I don't believe any of that negativity, but I respect their entitlement to their opinions and their right to voice those opinions in this forum. My great wish is for all the negative posters to show some patience and wait and see what happens. The transfer window is still open and all football clubs are selling clubs, including the richest clubs. I am not reassuring anyone of anything. The reassurances will come from player arrivals. I reiterate that this is the close season. This is a situation a little like Tesco, when all their shops are closed and there are still many people working in the background. Once again, thank you so much for your Tesco analogy. Philip Clarke, Tesco's CEO resigned a couple of days ago. What a coincidence! Nicola Cortese resigned from Saints a while ago. Life does go on![/p][/quote]Well said! Do some on here really think that Ralph, Les and the Board etc sit around doing nothing in between Daily Echo articles? That the only time they do anything is react if a player leaves or suggests he might? Really? Coz that's what it sounds like. I have little doubt there is a whole lot of activity going on and quite rightly the club is conducting it's business without fanfare. As frustrating as it is (for me as well) I wouldn't have it any other way. I would rather time is taken to acquire quality than hurriedly splash the cash on quantity that's mediocre at best! I might be wrong, of course, but I reserve my final judgment until the start of the new season. I will be as worried and angry as any fan if by then we are not any better off than we are today! This doesn't make me "blind"! My eyes are wide open, I see two players have arrived and we are interested in others - facts! We got shot of players who, for their own reasons, didn't want to be here anymore. And we got paid handsomely - facts! Two more players are unsettled - facts! Let's see how the club handles this. So let's give them the chance to do just that![/p][/quote]Just one twitter message that I saw said Ralph K is over in the States trying to set up a Saints connected Academy, how true that is I have no idea, no source quoted and I can't find any other references, but it would make sense considering how the enthusiasm for Soccer has taken off over there since the World Cup OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -5

1:13pm Wed 23 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

justaSaintsfan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment!
You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.?

Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief.

And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked.

I look forward to your reply.
Blimey George, you've changed your tune!

Have a good day all, I'm off barbel fishing.
I am getting visions of a bloke with a long white beard and a pointy Saints bobble hat sat on a stool!
Santa Claus? Lol!
If he was reading the London freebie newspaper it could be a Metro Gnome, tick tock.....
[quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!![/p][/quote]There are none so blind as those who will not see.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment![/p][/quote]You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.? Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief. And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked. I look forward to your reply.[/p][/quote]Blimey George, you've changed your tune! Have a good day all, I'm off barbel fishing.[/p][/quote]I am getting visions of a bloke with a long white beard and a pointy Saints bobble hat sat on a stool![/p][/quote]Santa Claus? Lol![/p][/quote]If he was reading the London freebie newspaper it could be a Metro Gnome, tick tock..... OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -6

1:20pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Stnana says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Stnana wrote:
Hey Osprey it's all over Twitter that Fonte has refused to sign a 2year contract extension, so maybe I really did know just a little bit more than you thought. Do you still really believe that Cork has not also been offered an extension ? Hope an offer of captaincy will change his mind., but again I'm not going to hold my breath. Anyone know where saintlysoul and his inside information is ? Strange how he hasn't posted since the departure of AL.
It started in the Star last night, as you would have known if you keep up on NewsNow, they also said we had been pipped over the signing of Mauricio Isla, I am not sure which is the biggest pack of lies.
Hope you are right and it is all a pack of lies but you would have thought getting Fonte and Cork to extend their contracts would have been two of the easiest and quickest jobs to be done. I'm trying hard to be as positive as you and the Horse but have a lot of sympathy for Seeds views. I saw your comment yesterday about the difficulty in getting through to the ticket office . I had the same problem and gave up at 10am, when I tried again at 1pm I got straight through and bought 8 tickets in my first choice row and block !
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stnana[/bold] wrote: Hey Osprey it's all over Twitter that Fonte has refused to sign a 2year contract extension, so maybe I really did know just a little bit more than you thought. Do you still really believe that Cork has not also been offered an extension ? Hope an offer of captaincy will change his mind., but again I'm not going to hold my breath. Anyone know where saintlysoul and his inside information is ? Strange how he hasn't posted since the departure of AL.[/p][/quote]It started in the Star last night, as you would have known if you keep up on NewsNow, they also said we had been pipped over the signing of Mauricio Isla, I am not sure which is the biggest pack of lies.[/p][/quote]Hope you are right and it is all a pack of lies but you would have thought getting Fonte and Cork to extend their contracts would have been two of the easiest and quickest jobs to be done. I'm trying hard to be as positive as you and the Horse but have a lot of sympathy for Seeds views. I saw your comment yesterday about the difficulty in getting through to the ticket office . I had the same problem and gave up at 10am, when I tried again at 1pm I got straight through and bought 8 tickets in my first choice row and block ! Stnana
  • Score: 3

1:29pm Wed 23 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Stnana wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Stnana wrote:
Hey Osprey it's all over Twitter that Fonte has refused to sign a 2year contract extension, so maybe I really did know just a little bit more than you thought. Do you still really believe that Cork has not also been offered an extension ? Hope an offer of captaincy will change his mind., but again I'm not going to hold my breath. Anyone know where saintlysoul and his inside information is ? Strange how he hasn't posted since the departure of AL.
It started in the Star last night, as you would have known if you keep up on NewsNow, they also said we had been pipped over the signing of Mauricio Isla, I am not sure which is the biggest pack of lies.
Hope you are right and it is all a pack of lies but you would have thought getting Fonte and Cork to extend their contracts would have been two of the easiest and quickest jobs to be done. I'm trying hard to be as positive as you and the Horse but have a lot of sympathy for Seeds views. I saw your comment yesterday about the difficulty in getting through to the ticket office . I had the same problem and gave up at 10am, when I tried again at 1pm I got straight through and bought 8 tickets in my first choice row and block !
I guess the ticket office was swamped first thing with people trying to get their first choice, happy to say my seat in the Kingsland was available and secured after a bit of patience. You are right about Jose and Jack and their contracts, wish they could tie them up, Jacks Dad has been less than positive and has been posting some poor tweets about us. When was the last time we were rumoured to be in for a player and had secured the contract without a hitch?
[quote][p][bold]Stnana[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stnana[/bold] wrote: Hey Osprey it's all over Twitter that Fonte has refused to sign a 2year contract extension, so maybe I really did know just a little bit more than you thought. Do you still really believe that Cork has not also been offered an extension ? Hope an offer of captaincy will change his mind., but again I'm not going to hold my breath. Anyone know where saintlysoul and his inside information is ? Strange how he hasn't posted since the departure of AL.[/p][/quote]It started in the Star last night, as you would have known if you keep up on NewsNow, they also said we had been pipped over the signing of Mauricio Isla, I am not sure which is the biggest pack of lies.[/p][/quote]Hope you are right and it is all a pack of lies but you would have thought getting Fonte and Cork to extend their contracts would have been two of the easiest and quickest jobs to be done. I'm trying hard to be as positive as you and the Horse but have a lot of sympathy for Seeds views. I saw your comment yesterday about the difficulty in getting through to the ticket office . I had the same problem and gave up at 10am, when I tried again at 1pm I got straight through and bought 8 tickets in my first choice row and block ![/p][/quote]I guess the ticket office was swamped first thing with people trying to get their first choice, happy to say my seat in the Kingsland was available and secured after a bit of patience. You are right about Jose and Jack and their contracts, wish they could tie them up, Jacks Dad has been less than positive and has been posting some poor tweets about us. When was the last time we were rumoured to be in for a player and had secured the contract without a hitch? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -9

2:02pm Wed 23 Jul 14

justaSaintsfan says...

Mister E wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
george chivers wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment!
You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.?

Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief.

And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked.

I look forward to your reply.
George, thank you for your Tesco analogy. The thing about going shopping (other than online) is that one needs to wait until the shop is open to find out the full range of goods that are available. When the shop is closed, restocking takes place. We are in the close season. Saints have sold some stock and are in the midst of restocking.

I do not have any insider knowledge, nor do the neggie veggies. None of my post remotely suggested that I have any insider knowledge. We know that Saints have sold their manager and replaced him. We know that three players have been sold. We know that two players have been bought. Those are all facts.

What I am saying is that there is a long time to go until the transfer window closes. It is common knowledge that the club intends to buy more players. I notice that Tesco do not shout it from the rooftops whom they are going to employ. Neither do Saints!

Any fool should know that football is a highly unpredictable business regarding results. It is also highly unpredictable about how good any new player will be at his club. For all we know, Adam Lallana could be a flop at Liverhampton, or he might be a great success. What we do know is that Liverhampton have good infrastructure. Things are in place there so as to help all possible success. Restocking is happening there also, but there is no guarantee of success. What is for certain, though, is that hard work and a positive outlook both help toward attaining any success.

Anyway, George, let us look at what the neggie veggies are doing. Some of them are saying that Ronald Koeman is not a good manager. Some of them are saying that Katharina is asset stripping Saints, despite the club saying that money from player sales is available for player purchases. Some negative posters are basically saying that Ralph Kruger and Les Reed are rubbish. I don't believe any of that negativity, but I respect their entitlement to their opinions and their right to voice those opinions in this forum.

My great wish is for all the negative posters to show some patience and wait and see what happens. The transfer window is still open and all football clubs are selling clubs, including the richest clubs. I am not reassuring anyone of anything. The reassurances will come from player arrivals. I reiterate that this is the close season. This is a situation a little like Tesco, when all their shops are closed and there are still many people working in the background.

Once again, thank you so much for your Tesco analogy. Philip Clarke, Tesco's CEO resigned a couple of days ago. What a coincidence! Nicola Cortese resigned from Saints a while ago. Life does go on!
Well said!
Do some on here really think that Ralph, Les and the Board etc sit around doing nothing in between Daily Echo articles? That the only time they do anything is react if a player leaves or suggests he might? Really? Coz that's what it sounds like.
I have little doubt there is a whole lot of activity going on and quite rightly the club is conducting it's business without fanfare. As frustrating as it is (for me as well) I wouldn't have it any other way.
I would rather time is taken to acquire quality than hurriedly splash the cash on quantity that's mediocre at best!
I might be wrong, of course, but I reserve my final judgment until the start of the new season. I will be as worried and angry as any fan if by then we are not any better off than we are today!
This doesn't make me "blind"! My eyes are wide open, I see two players have arrived and we are interested in others - facts! We got shot of players who, for their own reasons, didn't want to be here anymore. And we got paid handsomely - facts! Two more players are unsettled - facts! Let's see how the club handles this. So let's give them the chance to do just that!
Yet another great post!
[quote][p][bold]Mister E[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!![/p][/quote]There are none so blind as those who will not see.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment![/p][/quote]You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.? Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief. And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked. I look forward to your reply.[/p][/quote]George, thank you for your Tesco analogy. The thing about going shopping (other than online) is that one needs to wait until the shop is open to find out the full range of goods that are available. When the shop is closed, restocking takes place. We are in the close season. Saints have sold some stock and are in the midst of restocking. I do not have any insider knowledge, nor do the neggie veggies. None of my post remotely suggested that I have any insider knowledge. We know that Saints have sold their manager and replaced him. We know that three players have been sold. We know that two players have been bought. Those are all facts. What I am saying is that there is a long time to go until the transfer window closes. It is common knowledge that the club intends to buy more players. I notice that Tesco do not shout it from the rooftops whom they are going to employ. Neither do Saints! Any fool should know that football is a highly unpredictable business regarding results. It is also highly unpredictable about how good any new player will be at his club. For all we know, Adam Lallana could be a flop at Liverhampton, or he might be a great success. What we do know is that Liverhampton have good infrastructure. Things are in place there so as to help all possible success. Restocking is happening there also, but there is no guarantee of success. What is for certain, though, is that hard work and a positive outlook both help toward attaining any success. Anyway, George, let us look at what the neggie veggies are doing. Some of them are saying that Ronald Koeman is not a good manager. Some of them are saying that Katharina is asset stripping Saints, despite the club saying that money from player sales is available for player purchases. Some negative posters are basically saying that Ralph Kruger and Les Reed are rubbish. I don't believe any of that negativity, but I respect their entitlement to their opinions and their right to voice those opinions in this forum. My great wish is for all the negative posters to show some patience and wait and see what happens. The transfer window is still open and all football clubs are selling clubs, including the richest clubs. I am not reassuring anyone of anything. The reassurances will come from player arrivals. I reiterate that this is the close season. This is a situation a little like Tesco, when all their shops are closed and there are still many people working in the background. Once again, thank you so much for your Tesco analogy. Philip Clarke, Tesco's CEO resigned a couple of days ago. What a coincidence! Nicola Cortese resigned from Saints a while ago. Life does go on![/p][/quote]Well said! Do some on here really think that Ralph, Les and the Board etc sit around doing nothing in between Daily Echo articles? That the only time they do anything is react if a player leaves or suggests he might? Really? Coz that's what it sounds like. I have little doubt there is a whole lot of activity going on and quite rightly the club is conducting it's business without fanfare. As frustrating as it is (for me as well) I wouldn't have it any other way. I would rather time is taken to acquire quality than hurriedly splash the cash on quantity that's mediocre at best! I might be wrong, of course, but I reserve my final judgment until the start of the new season. I will be as worried and angry as any fan if by then we are not any better off than we are today! This doesn't make me "blind"! My eyes are wide open, I see two players have arrived and we are interested in others - facts! We got shot of players who, for their own reasons, didn't want to be here anymore. And we got paid handsomely - facts! Two more players are unsettled - facts! Let's see how the club handles this. So let's give them the chance to do just that![/p][/quote]Yet another great post! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: -11

2:13pm Wed 23 Jul 14

george chivers says...

george chivers wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
george chivers wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment!
You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.?

Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief.

And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked.

I look forward to your reply.
George, thank you for your Tesco analogy. The thing about going shopping (other than online) is that one needs to wait until the shop is open to find out the full range of goods that are available. When the shop is closed, restocking takes place. We are in the close season. Saints have sold some stock and are in the midst of restocking.

I do not have any insider knowledge, nor do the neggie veggies. None of my post remotely suggested that I have any insider knowledge. We know that Saints have sold their manager and replaced him. We know that three players have been sold. We know that two players have been bought. Those are all facts.

What I am saying is that there is a long time to go until the transfer window closes. It is common knowledge that the club intends to buy more players. I notice that Tesco do not shout it from the rooftops whom they are going to employ. Neither do Saints!

Any fool should know that football is a highly unpredictable business regarding results. It is also highly unpredictable about how good any new player will be at his club. For all we know, Adam Lallana could be a flop at Liverhampton, or he might be a great success. What we do know is that Liverhampton have good infrastructure. Things are in place there so as to help all possible success. Restocking is happening there also, but there is no guarantee of success. What is for certain, though, is that hard work and a positive outlook both help toward attaining any success.

Anyway, George, let us look at what the neggie veggies are doing. Some of them are saying that Ronald Koeman is not a good manager. Some of them are saying that Katharina is asset stripping Saints, despite the club saying that money from player sales is available for player purchases. Some negative posters are basically saying that Ralph Kruger and Les Reed are rubbish. I don't believe any of that negativity, but I respect their entitlement to their opinions and their right to voice those opinions in this forum.

My great wish is for all the negative posters to show some patience and wait and see what happens. The transfer window is still open and all football clubs are selling clubs, including the richest clubs. I am not reassuring anyone of anything. The reassurances will come from player arrivals. I reiterate that this is the close season. This is a situation a little like Tesco, when all their shops are closed and there are still many people working in the background.

Once again, thank you so much for your Tesco analogy. Philip Clarke, Tesco's CEO resigned a couple of days ago. What a coincidence! Nicola Cortese resigned from Saints a while ago. Life does go on!
And they announced his replacement the day after. Dave Lewis. We don't do that when we sell our best players.
What I want to know from our owner is just this.

Does she have a five year plan for this club?

If yes, what is it?

If she doesn't, does she intend to sell the club?

Is she going to extract money from the club to pay back loans to herself?

If yes, when?

What is the target finishing position for the team next season? A small range of positions will do.

Does she want to win the FA Cup?


Reasonable questions I think from a life long fan. This is why the lack of communication has started to frustrate me. RK has not kept his word. He has had six months now and delivered two major communications. Having said he communicate on a regular basis. Very poor in my view. I am beginning to think Seed was close to the truth in January/February.

Currently I think we are being strung along to maximise the sale of season tickets.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!![/p][/quote]There are none so blind as those who will not see.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment![/p][/quote]You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.? Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief. And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked. I look forward to your reply.[/p][/quote]George, thank you for your Tesco analogy. The thing about going shopping (other than online) is that one needs to wait until the shop is open to find out the full range of goods that are available. When the shop is closed, restocking takes place. We are in the close season. Saints have sold some stock and are in the midst of restocking. I do not have any insider knowledge, nor do the neggie veggies. None of my post remotely suggested that I have any insider knowledge. We know that Saints have sold their manager and replaced him. We know that three players have been sold. We know that two players have been bought. Those are all facts. What I am saying is that there is a long time to go until the transfer window closes. It is common knowledge that the club intends to buy more players. I notice that Tesco do not shout it from the rooftops whom they are going to employ. Neither do Saints! Any fool should know that football is a highly unpredictable business regarding results. It is also highly unpredictable about how good any new player will be at his club. For all we know, Adam Lallana could be a flop at Liverhampton, or he might be a great success. What we do know is that Liverhampton have good infrastructure. Things are in place there so as to help all possible success. Restocking is happening there also, but there is no guarantee of success. What is for certain, though, is that hard work and a positive outlook both help toward attaining any success. Anyway, George, let us look at what the neggie veggies are doing. Some of them are saying that Ronald Koeman is not a good manager. Some of them are saying that Katharina is asset stripping Saints, despite the club saying that money from player sales is available for player purchases. Some negative posters are basically saying that Ralph Kruger and Les Reed are rubbish. I don't believe any of that negativity, but I respect their entitlement to their opinions and their right to voice those opinions in this forum. My great wish is for all the negative posters to show some patience and wait and see what happens. The transfer window is still open and all football clubs are selling clubs, including the richest clubs. I am not reassuring anyone of anything. The reassurances will come from player arrivals. I reiterate that this is the close season. This is a situation a little like Tesco, when all their shops are closed and there are still many people working in the background. Once again, thank you so much for your Tesco analogy. Philip Clarke, Tesco's CEO resigned a couple of days ago. What a coincidence! Nicola Cortese resigned from Saints a while ago. Life does go on![/p][/quote]And they announced his replacement the day after. Dave Lewis. We don't do that when we sell our best players.[/p][/quote]What I want to know from our owner is just this. Does she have a five year plan for this club? If yes, what is it? If she doesn't, does she intend to sell the club? Is she going to extract money from the club to pay back loans to herself? If yes, when? What is the target finishing position for the team next season? A small range of positions will do. Does she want to win the FA Cup? Reasonable questions I think from a life long fan. This is why the lack of communication has started to frustrate me. RK has not kept his word. He has had six months now and delivered two major communications. Having said he communicate on a regular basis. Very poor in my view. I am beginning to think Seed was close to the truth in January/February. Currently I think we are being strung along to maximise the sale of season tickets. george chivers
  • Score: 7

2:25pm Wed 23 Jul 14

St Van Roetford says...

Oh look, another thread has turned into a really boring "The board don't know what they're doing" vs "Oh yes they do". That should not only make amazing reading but will almost certainly come to a definitive conclusion one way or the other.

Where have all the banter merchants gone? The Bant & Decs, the Eric Bantonas, the Immanual Bants? That's what makes this board great; not worrying like a load of bloody washer-women. Pull your socks up, for heaven's sake.
Oh look, another thread has turned into a really boring "The board don't know what they're doing" vs "Oh yes they do". That should not only make amazing reading but will almost certainly come to a definitive conclusion one way or the other. Where have all the banter merchants gone? The Bant & Decs, the Eric Bantonas, the Immanual Bants? That's what makes this board great; not worrying like a load of bloody washer-women. Pull your socks up, for heaven's sake. St Van Roetford
  • Score: -3

2:38pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Stnana says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Stnana wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Stnana wrote:
Hey Osprey it's all over Twitter that Fonte has refused to sign a 2year contract extension, so maybe I really did know just a little bit more than you thought. Do you still really believe that Cork has not also been offered an extension ? Hope an offer of captaincy will change his mind., but again I'm not going to hold my breath. Anyone know where saintlysoul and his inside information is ? Strange how he hasn't posted since the departure of AL.
It started in the Star last night, as you would have known if you keep up on NewsNow, they also said we had been pipped over the signing of Mauricio Isla, I am not sure which is the biggest pack of lies.
Hope you are right and it is all a pack of lies but you would have thought getting Fonte and Cork to extend their contracts would have been two of the easiest and quickest jobs to be done. I'm trying hard to be as positive as you and the Horse but have a lot of sympathy for Seeds views. I saw your comment yesterday about the difficulty in getting through to the ticket office . I had the same problem and gave up at 10am, when I tried again at 1pm I got straight through and bought 8 tickets in my first choice row and block !
I guess the ticket office was swamped first thing with people trying to get their first choice, happy to say my seat in the Kingsland was available and secured after a bit of patience. You are right about Jose and Jack and their contracts, wish they could tie them up, Jacks Dad has been less than positive and has been posting some poor tweets about us. When was the last time we were rumoured to be in for a player and had secured the contract without a hitch?
I've seen them too, not sure what he's getting at. Obviously not happy about the delay in whatever it is ! If a player has a point to make it would be more honest to do it themselves rather than through a relative or friend.He's not the only relation of a player to do this ! Jack must know what he's saying so presumably he's happy for him to do it.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stnana[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stnana[/bold] wrote: Hey Osprey it's all over Twitter that Fonte has refused to sign a 2year contract extension, so maybe I really did know just a little bit more than you thought. Do you still really believe that Cork has not also been offered an extension ? Hope an offer of captaincy will change his mind., but again I'm not going to hold my breath. Anyone know where saintlysoul and his inside information is ? Strange how he hasn't posted since the departure of AL.[/p][/quote]It started in the Star last night, as you would have known if you keep up on NewsNow, they also said we had been pipped over the signing of Mauricio Isla, I am not sure which is the biggest pack of lies.[/p][/quote]Hope you are right and it is all a pack of lies but you would have thought getting Fonte and Cork to extend their contracts would have been two of the easiest and quickest jobs to be done. I'm trying hard to be as positive as you and the Horse but have a lot of sympathy for Seeds views. I saw your comment yesterday about the difficulty in getting through to the ticket office . I had the same problem and gave up at 10am, when I tried again at 1pm I got straight through and bought 8 tickets in my first choice row and block ![/p][/quote]I guess the ticket office was swamped first thing with people trying to get their first choice, happy to say my seat in the Kingsland was available and secured after a bit of patience. You are right about Jose and Jack and their contracts, wish they could tie them up, Jacks Dad has been less than positive and has been posting some poor tweets about us. When was the last time we were rumoured to be in for a player and had secured the contract without a hitch?[/p][/quote]I've seen them too, not sure what he's getting at. Obviously not happy about the delay in whatever it is ! If a player has a point to make it would be more honest to do it themselves rather than through a relative or friend.He's not the only relation of a player to do this ! Jack must know what he's saying so presumably he's happy for him to do it. Stnana
  • Score: -1

2:39pm Wed 23 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

george chivers wrote:
george chivers wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
george chivers wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment!
You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.?

Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief.

And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked.

I look forward to your reply.
George, thank you for your Tesco analogy. The thing about going shopping (other than online) is that one needs to wait until the shop is open to find out the full range of goods that are available. When the shop is closed, restocking takes place. We are in the close season. Saints have sold some stock and are in the midst of restocking.

I do not have any insider knowledge, nor do the neggie veggies. None of my post remotely suggested that I have any insider knowledge. We know that Saints have sold their manager and replaced him. We know that three players have been sold. We know that two players have been bought. Those are all facts.

What I am saying is that there is a long time to go until the transfer window closes. It is common knowledge that the club intends to buy more players. I notice that Tesco do not shout it from the rooftops whom they are going to employ. Neither do Saints!

Any fool should know that football is a highly unpredictable business regarding results. It is also highly unpredictable about how good any new player will be at his club. For all we know, Adam Lallana could be a flop at Liverhampton, or he might be a great success. What we do know is that Liverhampton have good infrastructure. Things are in place there so as to help all possible success. Restocking is happening there also, but there is no guarantee of success. What is for certain, though, is that hard work and a positive outlook both help toward attaining any success.

Anyway, George, let us look at what the neggie veggies are doing. Some of them are saying that Ronald Koeman is not a good manager. Some of them are saying that Katharina is asset stripping Saints, despite the club saying that money from player sales is available for player purchases. Some negative posters are basically saying that Ralph Kruger and Les Reed are rubbish. I don't believe any of that negativity, but I respect their entitlement to their opinions and their right to voice those opinions in this forum.

My great wish is for all the negative posters to show some patience and wait and see what happens. The transfer window is still open and all football clubs are selling clubs, including the richest clubs. I am not reassuring anyone of anything. The reassurances will come from player arrivals. I reiterate that this is the close season. This is a situation a little like Tesco, when all their shops are closed and there are still many people working in the background.

Once again, thank you so much for your Tesco analogy. Philip Clarke, Tesco's CEO resigned a couple of days ago. What a coincidence! Nicola Cortese resigned from Saints a while ago. Life does go on!
And they announced his replacement the day after. Dave Lewis. We don't do that when we sell our best players.
What I want to know from our owner is just this.

Does she have a five year plan for this club?

If yes, what is it?

If she doesn't, does she intend to sell the club?

Is she going to extract money from the club to pay back loans to herself?

If yes, when?

What is the target finishing position for the team next season? A small range of positions will do.

Does she want to win the FA Cup?


Reasonable questions I think from a life long fan. This is why the lack of communication has started to frustrate me. RK has not kept his word. He has had six months now and delivered two major communications. Having said he communicate on a regular basis. Very poor in my view. I am beginning to think Seed was close to the truth in January/February.

Currently I think we are being strung along to maximise the sale of season tickets.
I think you are asking a lot of the questions that we all want answers to, perhaps a polite letter to her personally might do the trick, and I would be intrigued to hear the response. With regard to the last sentence, I don't think it will work, personally.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!![/p][/quote]There are none so blind as those who will not see.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment![/p][/quote]You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.? Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief. And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked. I look forward to your reply.[/p][/quote]George, thank you for your Tesco analogy. The thing about going shopping (other than online) is that one needs to wait until the shop is open to find out the full range of goods that are available. When the shop is closed, restocking takes place. We are in the close season. Saints have sold some stock and are in the midst of restocking. I do not have any insider knowledge, nor do the neggie veggies. None of my post remotely suggested that I have any insider knowledge. We know that Saints have sold their manager and replaced him. We know that three players have been sold. We know that two players have been bought. Those are all facts. What I am saying is that there is a long time to go until the transfer window closes. It is common knowledge that the club intends to buy more players. I notice that Tesco do not shout it from the rooftops whom they are going to employ. Neither do Saints! Any fool should know that football is a highly unpredictable business regarding results. It is also highly unpredictable about how good any new player will be at his club. For all we know, Adam Lallana could be a flop at Liverhampton, or he might be a great success. What we do know is that Liverhampton have good infrastructure. Things are in place there so as to help all possible success. Restocking is happening there also, but there is no guarantee of success. What is for certain, though, is that hard work and a positive outlook both help toward attaining any success. Anyway, George, let us look at what the neggie veggies are doing. Some of them are saying that Ronald Koeman is not a good manager. Some of them are saying that Katharina is asset stripping Saints, despite the club saying that money from player sales is available for player purchases. Some negative posters are basically saying that Ralph Kruger and Les Reed are rubbish. I don't believe any of that negativity, but I respect their entitlement to their opinions and their right to voice those opinions in this forum. My great wish is for all the negative posters to show some patience and wait and see what happens. The transfer window is still open and all football clubs are selling clubs, including the richest clubs. I am not reassuring anyone of anything. The reassurances will come from player arrivals. I reiterate that this is the close season. This is a situation a little like Tesco, when all their shops are closed and there are still many people working in the background. Once again, thank you so much for your Tesco analogy. Philip Clarke, Tesco's CEO resigned a couple of days ago. What a coincidence! Nicola Cortese resigned from Saints a while ago. Life does go on![/p][/quote]And they announced his replacement the day after. Dave Lewis. We don't do that when we sell our best players.[/p][/quote]What I want to know from our owner is just this. Does she have a five year plan for this club? If yes, what is it? If she doesn't, does she intend to sell the club? Is she going to extract money from the club to pay back loans to herself? If yes, when? What is the target finishing position for the team next season? A small range of positions will do. Does she want to win the FA Cup? Reasonable questions I think from a life long fan. This is why the lack of communication has started to frustrate me. RK has not kept his word. He has had six months now and delivered two major communications. Having said he communicate on a regular basis. Very poor in my view. I am beginning to think Seed was close to the truth in January/February. Currently I think we are being strung along to maximise the sale of season tickets.[/p][/quote]I think you are asking a lot of the questions that we all want answers to, perhaps a polite letter to her personally might do the trick, and I would be intrigued to hear the response. With regard to the last sentence, I don't think it will work, personally. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -10

2:58pm Wed 23 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
george chivers wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
george chivers wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment!
You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.?

Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief.

And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked.

I look forward to your reply.
George, thank you for your Tesco analogy. The thing about going shopping (other than online) is that one needs to wait until the shop is open to find out the full range of goods that are available. When the shop is closed, restocking takes place. We are in the close season. Saints have sold some stock and are in the midst of restocking.

I do not have any insider knowledge, nor do the neggie veggies. None of my post remotely suggested that I have any insider knowledge. We know that Saints have sold their manager and replaced him. We know that three players have been sold. We know that two players have been bought. Those are all facts.

What I am saying is that there is a long time to go until the transfer window closes. It is common knowledge that the club intends to buy more players. I notice that Tesco do not shout it from the rooftops whom they are going to employ. Neither do Saints!

Any fool should know that football is a highly unpredictable business regarding results. It is also highly unpredictable about how good any new player will be at his club. For all we know, Adam Lallana could be a flop at Liverhampton, or he might be a great success. What we do know is that Liverhampton have good infrastructure. Things are in place there so as to help all possible success. Restocking is happening there also, but there is no guarantee of success. What is for certain, though, is that hard work and a positive outlook both help toward attaining any success.

Anyway, George, let us look at what the neggie veggies are doing. Some of them are saying that Ronald Koeman is not a good manager. Some of them are saying that Katharina is asset stripping Saints, despite the club saying that money from player sales is available for player purchases. Some negative posters are basically saying that Ralph Kruger and Les Reed are rubbish. I don't believe any of that negativity, but I respect their entitlement to their opinions and their right to voice those opinions in this forum.

My great wish is for all the negative posters to show some patience and wait and see what happens. The transfer window is still open and all football clubs are selling clubs, including the richest clubs. I am not reassuring anyone of anything. The reassurances will come from player arrivals. I reiterate that this is the close season. This is a situation a little like Tesco, when all their shops are closed and there are still many people working in the background.

Once again, thank you so much for your Tesco analogy. Philip Clarke, Tesco's CEO resigned a couple of days ago. What a coincidence! Nicola Cortese resigned from Saints a while ago. Life does go on!
And they announced his replacement the day after. Dave Lewis. We don't do that when we sell our best players.
What I want to know from our owner is just this.

Does she have a five year plan for this club?

If yes, what is it?

If she doesn't, does she intend to sell the club?

Is she going to extract money from the club to pay back loans to herself?

If yes, when?

What is the target finishing position for the team next season? A small range of positions will do.

Does she want to win the FA Cup?


Reasonable questions I think from a life long fan. This is why the lack of communication has started to frustrate me. RK has not kept his word. He has had six months now and delivered two major communications. Having said he communicate on a regular basis. Very poor in my view. I am beginning to think Seed was close to the truth in January/February.

Currently I think we are being strung along to maximise the sale of season tickets.
I think you are asking a lot of the questions that we all want answers to, perhaps a polite letter to her personally might do the trick, and I would be intrigued to hear the response. With regard to the last sentence, I don't think it will work, personally.
Just to clarify my last remark, you may or not know that Season Ticket sales are currently suspended, still waiting for news of a resumption of sales on the OS.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!![/p][/quote]There are none so blind as those who will not see.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment![/p][/quote]You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.? Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief. And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked. I look forward to your reply.[/p][/quote]George, thank you for your Tesco analogy. The thing about going shopping (other than online) is that one needs to wait until the shop is open to find out the full range of goods that are available. When the shop is closed, restocking takes place. We are in the close season. Saints have sold some stock and are in the midst of restocking. I do not have any insider knowledge, nor do the neggie veggies. None of my post remotely suggested that I have any insider knowledge. We know that Saints have sold their manager and replaced him. We know that three players have been sold. We know that two players have been bought. Those are all facts. What I am saying is that there is a long time to go until the transfer window closes. It is common knowledge that the club intends to buy more players. I notice that Tesco do not shout it from the rooftops whom they are going to employ. Neither do Saints! Any fool should know that football is a highly unpredictable business regarding results. It is also highly unpredictable about how good any new player will be at his club. For all we know, Adam Lallana could be a flop at Liverhampton, or he might be a great success. What we do know is that Liverhampton have good infrastructure. Things are in place there so as to help all possible success. Restocking is happening there also, but there is no guarantee of success. What is for certain, though, is that hard work and a positive outlook both help toward attaining any success. Anyway, George, let us look at what the neggie veggies are doing. Some of them are saying that Ronald Koeman is not a good manager. Some of them are saying that Katharina is asset stripping Saints, despite the club saying that money from player sales is available for player purchases. Some negative posters are basically saying that Ralph Kruger and Les Reed are rubbish. I don't believe any of that negativity, but I respect their entitlement to their opinions and their right to voice those opinions in this forum. My great wish is for all the negative posters to show some patience and wait and see what happens. The transfer window is still open and all football clubs are selling clubs, including the richest clubs. I am not reassuring anyone of anything. The reassurances will come from player arrivals. I reiterate that this is the close season. This is a situation a little like Tesco, when all their shops are closed and there are still many people working in the background. Once again, thank you so much for your Tesco analogy. Philip Clarke, Tesco's CEO resigned a couple of days ago. What a coincidence! Nicola Cortese resigned from Saints a while ago. Life does go on![/p][/quote]And they announced his replacement the day after. Dave Lewis. We don't do that when we sell our best players.[/p][/quote]What I want to know from our owner is just this. Does she have a five year plan for this club? If yes, what is it? If she doesn't, does she intend to sell the club? Is she going to extract money from the club to pay back loans to herself? If yes, when? What is the target finishing position for the team next season? A small range of positions will do. Does she want to win the FA Cup? Reasonable questions I think from a life long fan. This is why the lack of communication has started to frustrate me. RK has not kept his word. He has had six months now and delivered two major communications. Having said he communicate on a regular basis. Very poor in my view. I am beginning to think Seed was close to the truth in January/February. Currently I think we are being strung along to maximise the sale of season tickets.[/p][/quote]I think you are asking a lot of the questions that we all want answers to, perhaps a polite letter to her personally might do the trick, and I would be intrigued to hear the response. With regard to the last sentence, I don't think it will work, personally.[/p][/quote]Just to clarify my last remark, you may or not know that Season Ticket sales are currently suspended, still waiting for news of a resumption of sales on the OS. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -7

3:45pm Wed 23 Jul 14

steekeemcglue says...

Rupert Lowe's Backside wrote:
Sorry I may sound conspiratorial here, but not offering Morgan the captaincy may mean that he is on the way out? Apart from KD, Fonte 'feels' the obvious choice; but couldnt the captaincy been used as a bargaining chip for Morgan's loyalty?

Get Spiderman and Cork signed ASAP

COYR and whites stripes!
of COURSE spiderman is on his way out.... why are people deluding themselves.... ?
[quote][p][bold]Rupert Lowe's Backside[/bold] wrote: Sorry I may sound conspiratorial here, but not offering Morgan the captaincy may mean that he is on the way out? Apart from KD, Fonte 'feels' the obvious choice; but couldnt the captaincy been used as a bargaining chip for Morgan's loyalty? Get Spiderman and Cork signed ASAP COYR and whites stripes![/p][/quote]of COURSE spiderman is on his way out.... why are people deluding themselves.... ? steekeemcglue
  • Score: -1

3:51pm Wed 23 Jul 14

redsnapper says...

Back on thread I don't rate Fonte without Lovren which is the reality . Too often his concentration winds down in the last 15 minutes and bang we are losing.
He needs to be fitter and faster and focus. Captaincy is for someone like Steve Davies or even Cork (who s undervalued by Saints)
Back on thread I don't rate Fonte without Lovren which is the reality . Too often his concentration winds down in the last 15 minutes and bang we are losing. He needs to be fitter and faster and focus. Captaincy is for someone like Steve Davies or even Cork (who s undervalued by Saints) redsnapper
  • Score: 6

4:00pm Wed 23 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

steekeemcglue wrote:
Rupert Lowe's Backside wrote:
Sorry I may sound conspiratorial here, but not offering Morgan the captaincy may mean that he is on the way out? Apart from KD, Fonte 'feels' the obvious choice; but couldnt the captaincy been used as a bargaining chip for Morgan's loyalty?

Get Spiderman and Cork signed ASAP

COYR and whites stripes!
of COURSE spiderman is on his way out.... why are people deluding themselves.... ?
Waiting for the fat lady I guess. Hoping she has lost her voice.
[quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rupert Lowe's Backside[/bold] wrote: Sorry I may sound conspiratorial here, but not offering Morgan the captaincy may mean that he is on the way out? Apart from KD, Fonte 'feels' the obvious choice; but couldnt the captaincy been used as a bargaining chip for Morgan's loyalty? Get Spiderman and Cork signed ASAP COYR and whites stripes![/p][/quote]of COURSE spiderman is on his way out.... why are people deluding themselves.... ?[/p][/quote]Waiting for the fat lady I guess. Hoping she has lost her voice. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -5

4:00pm Wed 23 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

redsnapper wrote:
Back on thread I don't rate Fonte without Lovren which is the reality . Too often his concentration winds down in the last 15 minutes and bang we are losing.
He needs to be fitter and faster and focus. Captaincy is for someone like Steve Davies or even Cork (who s undervalued by Saints)
I agree.
[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: Back on thread I don't rate Fonte without Lovren which is the reality . Too often his concentration winds down in the last 15 minutes and bang we are losing. He needs to be fitter and faster and focus. Captaincy is for someone like Steve Davies or even Cork (who s undervalued by Saints)[/p][/quote]I agree. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -3

4:33pm Wed 23 Jul 14

SaintJD says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
Oh look, another thread has turned into a really boring "The board don't know what they're doing" vs "Oh yes they do". That should not only make amazing reading but will almost certainly come to a definitive conclusion one way or the other.

Where have all the banter merchants gone? The Bant & Decs, the Eric Bantonas, the Immanual Bants? That's what makes this board great; not worrying like a load of bloody washer-women. Pull your socks up, for heaven's sake.
Very true. Was thinking that we should all save ourselves a lot of time and just cut and paste the same comment in every day because it's been much the same just with different player or manager names since April.

Just need the club to blow us all out of the water with some amazing positive transfer news and hopefully we can all move on and look forward to next season. I want to get a nice surprise for once - and one that doesn't drag on for four weeks. Amaze us Saints. In a good way.
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: Oh look, another thread has turned into a really boring "The board don't know what they're doing" vs "Oh yes they do". That should not only make amazing reading but will almost certainly come to a definitive conclusion one way or the other. Where have all the banter merchants gone? The Bant & Decs, the Eric Bantonas, the Immanual Bants? That's what makes this board great; not worrying like a load of bloody washer-women. Pull your socks up, for heaven's sake.[/p][/quote]Very true. Was thinking that we should all save ourselves a lot of time and just cut and paste the same comment in every day because it's been much the same just with different player or manager names since April. Just need the club to blow us all out of the water with some amazing positive transfer news and hopefully we can all move on and look forward to next season. I want to get a nice surprise for once - and one that doesn't drag on for four weeks. Amaze us Saints. In a good way. SaintJD
  • Score: 9

4:46pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
Oh look, another thread has turned into a really boring "The board don't know what they're doing" vs "Oh yes they do". That should not only make amazing reading but will almost certainly come to a definitive conclusion one way or the other.

Where have all the banter merchants gone? The Bant & Decs, the Eric Bantonas, the Immanual Bants? That's what makes this board great; not worrying like a load of bloody washer-women. Pull your socks up, for heaven's sake.
I was walking down the road past our local cemetery the other day,and I saw a headstone for a guy who was 152! Seriously! It didn't give his surname,but apparently his name was Miles...from London.
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: Oh look, another thread has turned into a really boring "The board don't know what they're doing" vs "Oh yes they do". That should not only make amazing reading but will almost certainly come to a definitive conclusion one way or the other. Where have all the banter merchants gone? The Bant & Decs, the Eric Bantonas, the Immanual Bants? That's what makes this board great; not worrying like a load of bloody washer-women. Pull your socks up, for heaven's sake.[/p][/quote]I was walking down the road past our local cemetery the other day,and I saw a headstone for a guy who was 152! Seriously! It didn't give his surname,but apparently his name was Miles...from London. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 5

4:54pm Wed 23 Jul 14

george chivers says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
Oh look, another thread has turned into a really boring "The board don't know what they're doing" vs "Oh yes they do". That should not only make amazing reading but will almost certainly come to a definitive conclusion one way or the other.

Where have all the banter merchants gone? The Bant & Decs, the Eric Bantonas, the Immanual Bants? That's what makes this board great; not worrying like a load of bloody washer-women. Pull your socks up, for heaven's sake.
I was walking down the road past our local cemetery the other day,and I saw a headstone for a guy who was 152! Seriously! It didn't give his surname,but apparently his name was Miles...from London.
Hey Poz, are you sure you didn't hear that on Highway 61 Revisited?
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: Oh look, another thread has turned into a really boring "The board don't know what they're doing" vs "Oh yes they do". That should not only make amazing reading but will almost certainly come to a definitive conclusion one way or the other. Where have all the banter merchants gone? The Bant & Decs, the Eric Bantonas, the Immanual Bants? That's what makes this board great; not worrying like a load of bloody washer-women. Pull your socks up, for heaven's sake.[/p][/quote]I was walking down the road past our local cemetery the other day,and I saw a headstone for a guy who was 152! Seriously! It didn't give his surname,but apparently his name was Miles...from London.[/p][/quote]Hey Poz, are you sure you didn't hear that on Highway 61 Revisited? george chivers
  • Score: 2

4:58pm Wed 23 Jul 14

St Van Roetford says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
Oh look, another thread has turned into a really boring "The board don't know what they're doing" vs "Oh yes they do". That should not only make amazing reading but will almost certainly come to a definitive conclusion one way or the other.

Where have all the banter merchants gone? The Bant & Decs, the Eric Bantonas, the Immanual Bants? That's what makes this board great; not worrying like a load of bloody washer-women. Pull your socks up, for heaven's sake.
I was walking down the road past our local cemetery the other day,and I saw a headstone for a guy who was 152! Seriously! It didn't give his surname,but apparently his name was Miles...from London.
Amazing! It's taken all day but it's nice to know there's life out there.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: Oh look, another thread has turned into a really boring "The board don't know what they're doing" vs "Oh yes they do". That should not only make amazing reading but will almost certainly come to a definitive conclusion one way or the other. Where have all the banter merchants gone? The Bant & Decs, the Eric Bantonas, the Immanual Bants? That's what makes this board great; not worrying like a load of bloody washer-women. Pull your socks up, for heaven's sake.[/p][/quote]I was walking down the road past our local cemetery the other day,and I saw a headstone for a guy who was 152! Seriously! It didn't give his surname,but apparently his name was Miles...from London.[/p][/quote]Amazing! It's taken all day but it's nice to know there's life out there. St Van Roetford
  • Score: 2

5:00pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

george chivers wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
Oh look, another thread has turned into a really boring "The board don't know what they're doing" vs "Oh yes they do". That should not only make amazing reading but will almost certainly come to a definitive conclusion one way or the other.

Where have all the banter merchants gone? The Bant & Decs, the Eric Bantonas, the Immanual Bants? That's what makes this board great; not worrying like a load of bloody washer-women. Pull your socks up, for heaven's sake.
I was walking down the road past our local cemetery the other day,and I saw a headstone for a guy who was 152! Seriously! It didn't give his surname,but apparently his name was Miles...from London.
Hey Poz, are you sure you didn't hear that on Highway 61 Revisited?
No,but something is happening here George..and I don't know what it is.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: Oh look, another thread has turned into a really boring "The board don't know what they're doing" vs "Oh yes they do". That should not only make amazing reading but will almost certainly come to a definitive conclusion one way or the other. Where have all the banter merchants gone? The Bant & Decs, the Eric Bantonas, the Immanual Bants? That's what makes this board great; not worrying like a load of bloody washer-women. Pull your socks up, for heaven's sake.[/p][/quote]I was walking down the road past our local cemetery the other day,and I saw a headstone for a guy who was 152! Seriously! It didn't give his surname,but apparently his name was Miles...from London.[/p][/quote]Hey Poz, are you sure you didn't hear that on Highway 61 Revisited?[/p][/quote]No,but something is happening here George..and I don't know what it is. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

5:21pm Wed 23 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
Oh look, another thread has turned into a really boring "The board don't know what they're doing" vs "Oh yes they do". That should not only make amazing reading but will almost certainly come to a definitive conclusion one way or the other.

Where have all the banter merchants gone? The Bant & Decs, the Eric Bantonas, the Immanual Bants? That's what makes this board great; not worrying like a load of bloody washer-women. Pull your socks up, for heaven's sake.
I was walking down the road past our local cemetery the other day,and I saw a headstone for a guy who was 152! Seriously! It didn't give his surname,but apparently his name was Miles...from London.
Let me guess, do you live in Warwick?
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: Oh look, another thread has turned into a really boring "The board don't know what they're doing" vs "Oh yes they do". That should not only make amazing reading but will almost certainly come to a definitive conclusion one way or the other. Where have all the banter merchants gone? The Bant & Decs, the Eric Bantonas, the Immanual Bants? That's what makes this board great; not worrying like a load of bloody washer-women. Pull your socks up, for heaven's sake.[/p][/quote]I was walking down the road past our local cemetery the other day,and I saw a headstone for a guy who was 152! Seriously! It didn't give his surname,but apparently his name was Miles...from London.[/p][/quote]Let me guess, do you live in Warwick? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -6

5:24pm Wed 23 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
Oh look, another thread has turned into a really boring "The board don't know what they're doing" vs "Oh yes they do". That should not only make amazing reading but will almost certainly come to a definitive conclusion one way or the other.

Where have all the banter merchants gone? The Bant & Decs, the Eric Bantonas, the Immanual Bants? That's what makes this board great; not worrying like a load of bloody washer-women. Pull your socks up, for heaven's sake.
I was walking down the road past our local cemetery the other day,and I saw a headstone for a guy who was 152! Seriously! It didn't give his surname,but apparently his name was Miles...from London.
Let me guess, do you live in Warwick?
Belay that, try Barnsley?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: Oh look, another thread has turned into a really boring "The board don't know what they're doing" vs "Oh yes they do". That should not only make amazing reading but will almost certainly come to a definitive conclusion one way or the other. Where have all the banter merchants gone? The Bant & Decs, the Eric Bantonas, the Immanual Bants? That's what makes this board great; not worrying like a load of bloody washer-women. Pull your socks up, for heaven's sake.[/p][/quote]I was walking down the road past our local cemetery the other day,and I saw a headstone for a guy who was 152! Seriously! It didn't give his surname,but apparently his name was Miles...from London.[/p][/quote]Let me guess, do you live in Warwick?[/p][/quote]Belay that, try Barnsley? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -4

5:32pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
Oh look, another thread has turned into a really boring "The board don't know what they're doing" vs "Oh yes they do". That should not only make amazing reading but will almost certainly come to a definitive conclusion one way or the other.

Where have all the banter merchants gone? The Bant & Decs, the Eric Bantonas, the Immanual Bants? That's what makes this board great; not worrying like a load of bloody washer-women. Pull your socks up, for heaven's sake.
I was walking down the road past our local cemetery the other day,and I saw a headstone for a guy who was 152! Seriously! It didn't give his surname,but apparently his name was Miles...from London.
Let me guess, do you live in Warwick?
Belay that, try Barnsley?
Well 70 wouldnt've worked would it!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: Oh look, another thread has turned into a really boring "The board don't know what they're doing" vs "Oh yes they do". That should not only make amazing reading but will almost certainly come to a definitive conclusion one way or the other. Where have all the banter merchants gone? The Bant & Decs, the Eric Bantonas, the Immanual Bants? That's what makes this board great; not worrying like a load of bloody washer-women. Pull your socks up, for heaven's sake.[/p][/quote]I was walking down the road past our local cemetery the other day,and I saw a headstone for a guy who was 152! Seriously! It didn't give his surname,but apparently his name was Miles...from London.[/p][/quote]Let me guess, do you live in Warwick?[/p][/quote]Belay that, try Barnsley?[/p][/quote]Well 70 wouldnt've worked would it! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

5:33pm Wed 23 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
Oh look, another thread has turned into a really boring "The board don't know what they're doing" vs "Oh yes they do". That should not only make amazing reading but will almost certainly come to a definitive conclusion one way or the other.

Where have all the banter merchants gone? The Bant & Decs, the Eric Bantonas, the Immanual Bants? That's what makes this board great; not worrying like a load of bloody washer-women. Pull your socks up, for heaven's sake.
I was walking down the road past our local cemetery the other day,and I saw a headstone for a guy who was 152! Seriously! It didn't give his surname,but apparently his name was Miles...from London.
Let me guess, do you live in Warwick?
Belay that, try Barnsley?
Well 70 wouldnt've worked would it!
Good joke though, it made me laugh.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: Oh look, another thread has turned into a really boring "The board don't know what they're doing" vs "Oh yes they do". That should not only make amazing reading but will almost certainly come to a definitive conclusion one way or the other. Where have all the banter merchants gone? The Bant & Decs, the Eric Bantonas, the Immanual Bants? That's what makes this board great; not worrying like a load of bloody washer-women. Pull your socks up, for heaven's sake.[/p][/quote]I was walking down the road past our local cemetery the other day,and I saw a headstone for a guy who was 152! Seriously! It didn't give his surname,but apparently his name was Miles...from London.[/p][/quote]Let me guess, do you live in Warwick?[/p][/quote]Belay that, try Barnsley?[/p][/quote]Well 70 wouldnt've worked would it![/p][/quote]Good joke though, it made me laugh. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -5

5:35pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Saints n Winners says...

If you think about the new signings for a minute.

We have replaced RL with a younger, more prolific more mobile model. No problem.

We have replaced AL with more experienced player who has been scoring a goal every 2 1/2 games compared to AL's 1 in 4. No problem

We haven't replaced LK - but some are suggesting that Targett is an even better player. Targett will improve this year - but will it be enough for a new youngster to the team? I think he needs a more mature player to compete with. This position is a slight problem at the mo.

If Lovren goes we need to get some quality in quickly. This position will be the major problem for our team - as a defensive unit needs time to gel.


I am assuming that that Tadic and Pelle gel fairly quickly, and that Morgan doesn't leave

One answer to getting a team to gel quickly is to buy more than one player from the same club ala Brendan Rogers.

Therefore I would not be surprised to see more players from Twente or Feyenoord
If you think about the new signings for a minute. We have replaced RL with a younger, more prolific more mobile model. No problem. We have replaced AL with more experienced player who has been scoring a goal every 2 1/2 games compared to AL's 1 in 4. No problem We haven't replaced LK - but some are suggesting that Targett is an even better player. Targett will improve this year - but will it be enough for a new youngster to the team? I think he needs a more mature player to compete with. This position is a slight problem at the mo. If Lovren goes we need to get some quality in quickly. This position will be the major problem for our team - as a defensive unit needs time to gel. I am assuming that that Tadic and Pelle gel fairly quickly, and that Morgan doesn't leave One answer to getting a team to gel quickly is to buy more than one player from the same club ala Brendan Rogers. Therefore I would not be surprised to see more players from Twente or Feyenoord Saints n Winners
  • Score: 3

5:50pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Saints n Winners says...

LK? I meant LS of course
LK? I meant LS of course Saints n Winners
  • Score: 2

6:01pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Dooorrrset saint says...

What is going on with this site? Been away for a month and come back and it's like a fecking civil war......the neggies v the clappers!
I think most people are pi55ed off with the way things are going. What with losing our best players and seemingly dragging our feet in the transfer market. And with the deafening silence from Ralph and Les, I agree that things are looking pretty sh1tty after last seasons heroics!
But what is the point in b1tching and moaning about it? It's not gonna change a thing.
Some posters on here need to man up, grow a pair and stop moaning like a bunch of pu55ies!
What is going on with this site? Been away for a month and come back and it's like a fecking civil war......the neggies v the clappers! I think most people are pi55ed off with the way things are going. What with losing our best players and seemingly dragging our feet in the transfer market. And with the deafening silence from Ralph and Les, I agree that things are looking pretty sh1tty after last seasons heroics! But what is the point in b1tching and moaning about it? It's not gonna change a thing. Some posters on here need to man up, grow a pair and stop moaning like a bunch of pu55ies! Dooorrrset saint
  • Score: 4

6:07pm Wed 23 Jul 14

justaSaintsfan says...

george chivers wrote:
george chivers wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
george chivers wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment!
You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.?

Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief.

And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked.

I look forward to your reply.
George, thank you for your Tesco analogy. The thing about going shopping (other than online) is that one needs to wait until the shop is open to find out the full range of goods that are available. When the shop is closed, restocking takes place. We are in the close season. Saints have sold some stock and are in the midst of restocking.

I do not have any insider knowledge, nor do the neggie veggies. None of my post remotely suggested that I have any insider knowledge. We know that Saints have sold their manager and replaced him. We know that three players have been sold. We know that two players have been bought. Those are all facts.

What I am saying is that there is a long time to go until the transfer window closes. It is common knowledge that the club intends to buy more players. I notice that Tesco do not shout it from the rooftops whom they are going to employ. Neither do Saints!

Any fool should know that football is a highly unpredictable business regarding results. It is also highly unpredictable about how good any new player will be at his club. For all we know, Adam Lallana could be a flop at Liverhampton, or he might be a great success. What we do know is that Liverhampton have good infrastructure. Things are in place there so as to help all possible success. Restocking is happening there also, but there is no guarantee of success. What is for certain, though, is that hard work and a positive outlook both help toward attaining any success.

Anyway, George, let us look at what the neggie veggies are doing. Some of them are saying that Ronald Koeman is not a good manager. Some of them are saying that Katharina is asset stripping Saints, despite the club saying that money from player sales is available for player purchases. Some negative posters are basically saying that Ralph Kruger and Les Reed are rubbish. I don't believe any of that negativity, but I respect their entitlement to their opinions and their right to voice those opinions in this forum.

My great wish is for all the negative posters to show some patience and wait and see what happens. The transfer window is still open and all football clubs are selling clubs, including the richest clubs. I am not reassuring anyone of anything. The reassurances will come from player arrivals. I reiterate that this is the close season. This is a situation a little like Tesco, when all their shops are closed and there are still many people working in the background.

Once again, thank you so much for your Tesco analogy. Philip Clarke, Tesco's CEO resigned a couple of days ago. What a coincidence! Nicola Cortese resigned from Saints a while ago. Life does go on!
And they announced his replacement the day after. Dave Lewis. We don't do that when we sell our best players.
What I want to know from our owner is just this.

Does she have a five year plan for this club?

If yes, what is it?

If she doesn't, does she intend to sell the club?

Is she going to extract money from the club to pay back loans to herself?

If yes, when?

What is the target finishing position for the team next season? A small range of positions will do.

Does she want to win the FA Cup?


Reasonable questions I think from a life long fan. This is why the lack of communication has started to frustrate me. RK has not kept his word. He has had six months now and delivered two major communications. Having said he communicate on a regular basis. Very poor in my view. I am beginning to think Seed was close to the truth in January/February.

Currently I think we are being strung along to maximise the sale of season tickets.
I can well understand your frustration. It is possibly similar for most Saints fans, including myself. My main interest at the moment regarding Saints is our playing squad for the new season. Whether or not the club communicates with its fans, before long we shall hear about more player arrivals or departures, perhaps both.

It is fortunate for me that I am a patient guy, but I realise that other Saints fans are less tolerant of the present situation. I think they might do themselves a favour by considering that three of our best players have left the club and two new players have arrived. I am concentrating on this point because actual arrivals and departures are the only concrete things we know.

I think we Saints fans are very special people. We are long suffering for many years and the club is very privileged to have us as supporters. It would obviously be much easier to support a bigger club, which regularly buys success, but for me, that sort of hollow victory has little value. That is why it is wonderful when an underdog club wins the FA Cup. I am not counting Portsmouth's winning of recent years because it was done on borrowed money the club could not repay. Such victories are as hollow as a bigger club buying success.

I can hardly wait for the new season to start, by which time we might know a little more than we do today. Waiting for news from the club is almost like flogging a dead horse. It is all the more frustrating because these days we have instant communication and Saints have said they would communicate. I am trying to stay relaxed and tell myself that not having any news is good news. I live in hope that the frustration of we long suffering Saints fans will soon be at an end, at least until the next transfer window opens!

One thing is for sure. There is never a dull moment for a Saints fan!

Up the Saints!!!
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!![/p][/quote]There are none so blind as those who will not see.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment![/p][/quote]You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.? Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief. And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked. I look forward to your reply.[/p][/quote]George, thank you for your Tesco analogy. The thing about going shopping (other than online) is that one needs to wait until the shop is open to find out the full range of goods that are available. When the shop is closed, restocking takes place. We are in the close season. Saints have sold some stock and are in the midst of restocking. I do not have any insider knowledge, nor do the neggie veggies. None of my post remotely suggested that I have any insider knowledge. We know that Saints have sold their manager and replaced him. We know that three players have been sold. We know that two players have been bought. Those are all facts. What I am saying is that there is a long time to go until the transfer window closes. It is common knowledge that the club intends to buy more players. I notice that Tesco do not shout it from the rooftops whom they are going to employ. Neither do Saints! Any fool should know that football is a highly unpredictable business regarding results. It is also highly unpredictable about how good any new player will be at his club. For all we know, Adam Lallana could be a flop at Liverhampton, or he might be a great success. What we do know is that Liverhampton have good infrastructure. Things are in place there so as to help all possible success. Restocking is happening there also, but there is no guarantee of success. What is for certain, though, is that hard work and a positive outlook both help toward attaining any success. Anyway, George, let us look at what the neggie veggies are doing. Some of them are saying that Ronald Koeman is not a good manager. Some of them are saying that Katharina is asset stripping Saints, despite the club saying that money from player sales is available for player purchases. Some negative posters are basically saying that Ralph Kruger and Les Reed are rubbish. I don't believe any of that negativity, but I respect their entitlement to their opinions and their right to voice those opinions in this forum. My great wish is for all the negative posters to show some patience and wait and see what happens. The transfer window is still open and all football clubs are selling clubs, including the richest clubs. I am not reassuring anyone of anything. The reassurances will come from player arrivals. I reiterate that this is the close season. This is a situation a little like Tesco, when all their shops are closed and there are still many people working in the background. Once again, thank you so much for your Tesco analogy. Philip Clarke, Tesco's CEO resigned a couple of days ago. What a coincidence! Nicola Cortese resigned from Saints a while ago. Life does go on![/p][/quote]And they announced his replacement the day after. Dave Lewis. We don't do that when we sell our best players.[/p][/quote]What I want to know from our owner is just this. Does she have a five year plan for this club? If yes, what is it? If she doesn't, does she intend to sell the club? Is she going to extract money from the club to pay back loans to herself? If yes, when? What is the target finishing position for the team next season? A small range of positions will do. Does she want to win the FA Cup? Reasonable questions I think from a life long fan. This is why the lack of communication has started to frustrate me. RK has not kept his word. He has had six months now and delivered two major communications. Having said he communicate on a regular basis. Very poor in my view. I am beginning to think Seed was close to the truth in January/February. Currently I think we are being strung along to maximise the sale of season tickets.[/p][/quote]I can well understand your frustration. It is possibly similar for most Saints fans, including myself. My main interest at the moment regarding Saints is our playing squad for the new season. Whether or not the club communicates with its fans, before long we shall hear about more player arrivals or departures, perhaps both. It is fortunate for me that I am a patient guy, but I realise that other Saints fans are less tolerant of the present situation. I think they might do themselves a favour by considering that three of our best players have left the club and two new players have arrived. I am concentrating on this point because actual arrivals and departures are the only concrete things we know. I think we Saints fans are very special people. We are long suffering for many years and the club is very privileged to have us as supporters. It would obviously be much easier to support a bigger club, which regularly buys success, but for me, that sort of hollow victory has little value. That is why it is wonderful when an underdog club wins the FA Cup. I am not counting Portsmouth's winning of recent years because it was done on borrowed money the club could not repay. Such victories are as hollow as a bigger club buying success. I can hardly wait for the new season to start, by which time we might know a little more than we do today. Waiting for news from the club is almost like flogging a dead horse. It is all the more frustrating because these days we have instant communication and Saints have said they would communicate. I am trying to stay relaxed and tell myself that not having any news is good news. I live in hope that the frustration of we long suffering Saints fans will soon be at an end, at least until the next transfer window opens! One thing is for sure. There is never a dull moment for a Saints fan! Up the Saints!!! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: -10

8:05pm Wed 23 Jul 14

george chivers says...

justaSaintsfan wrote:
george chivers wrote:
george chivers wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
george chivers wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment!
You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.?

Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief.

And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked.

I look forward to your reply.
George, thank you for your Tesco analogy. The thing about going shopping (other than online) is that one needs to wait until the shop is open to find out the full range of goods that are available. When the shop is closed, restocking takes place. We are in the close season. Saints have sold some stock and are in the midst of restocking.

I do not have any insider knowledge, nor do the neggie veggies. None of my post remotely suggested that I have any insider knowledge. We know that Saints have sold their manager and replaced him. We know that three players have been sold. We know that two players have been bought. Those are all facts.

What I am saying is that there is a long time to go until the transfer window closes. It is common knowledge that the club intends to buy more players. I notice that Tesco do not shout it from the rooftops whom they are going to employ. Neither do Saints!

Any fool should know that football is a highly unpredictable business regarding results. It is also highly unpredictable about how good any new player will be at his club. For all we know, Adam Lallana could be a flop at Liverhampton, or he might be a great success. What we do know is that Liverhampton have good infrastructure. Things are in place there so as to help all possible success. Restocking is happening there also, but there is no guarantee of success. What is for certain, though, is that hard work and a positive outlook both help toward attaining any success.

Anyway, George, let us look at what the neggie veggies are doing. Some of them are saying that Ronald Koeman is not a good manager. Some of them are saying that Katharina is asset stripping Saints, despite the club saying that money from player sales is available for player purchases. Some negative posters are basically saying that Ralph Kruger and Les Reed are rubbish. I don't believe any of that negativity, but I respect their entitlement to their opinions and their right to voice those opinions in this forum.

My great wish is for all the negative posters to show some patience and wait and see what happens. The transfer window is still open and all football clubs are selling clubs, including the richest clubs. I am not reassuring anyone of anything. The reassurances will come from player arrivals. I reiterate that this is the close season. This is a situation a little like Tesco, when all their shops are closed and there are still many people working in the background.

Once again, thank you so much for your Tesco analogy. Philip Clarke, Tesco's CEO resigned a couple of days ago. What a coincidence! Nicola Cortese resigned from Saints a while ago. Life does go on!
And they announced his replacement the day after. Dave Lewis. We don't do that when we sell our best players.
What I want to know from our owner is just this.

Does she have a five year plan for this club?

If yes, what is it?

If she doesn't, does she intend to sell the club?

Is she going to extract money from the club to pay back loans to herself?

If yes, when?

What is the target finishing position for the team next season? A small range of positions will do.

Does she want to win the FA Cup?


Reasonable questions I think from a life long fan. This is why the lack of communication has started to frustrate me. RK has not kept his word. He has had six months now and delivered two major communications. Having said he communicate on a regular basis. Very poor in my view. I am beginning to think Seed was close to the truth in January/February.

Currently I think we are being strung along to maximise the sale of season tickets.
I can well understand your frustration. It is possibly similar for most Saints fans, including myself. My main interest at the moment regarding Saints is our playing squad for the new season. Whether or not the club communicates with its fans, before long we shall hear about more player arrivals or departures, perhaps both.

It is fortunate for me that I am a patient guy, but I realise that other Saints fans are less tolerant of the present situation. I think they might do themselves a favour by considering that three of our best players have left the club and two new players have arrived. I am concentrating on this point because actual arrivals and departures are the only concrete things we know.

I think we Saints fans are very special people. We are long suffering for many years and the club is very privileged to have us as supporters. It would obviously be much easier to support a bigger club, which regularly buys success, but for me, that sort of hollow victory has little value. That is why it is wonderful when an underdog club wins the FA Cup. I am not counting Portsmouth's winning of recent years because it was done on borrowed money the club could not repay. Such victories are as hollow as a bigger club buying success.

I can hardly wait for the new season to start, by which time we might know a little more than we do today. Waiting for news from the club is almost like flogging a dead horse. It is all the more frustrating because these days we have instant communication and Saints have said they would communicate. I am trying to stay relaxed and tell myself that not having any news is good news. I live in hope that the frustration of we long suffering Saints fans will soon be at an end, at least until the next transfer window opens!

One thing is for sure. There is never a dull moment for a Saints fan!

Up the Saints!!!
Justasaintsfan, do you work for the PR department of SFC?

You sound like the calm before the storm.
[quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!![/p][/quote]There are none so blind as those who will not see.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment![/p][/quote]You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.? Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief. And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked. I look forward to your reply.[/p][/quote]George, thank you for your Tesco analogy. The thing about going shopping (other than online) is that one needs to wait until the shop is open to find out the full range of goods that are available. When the shop is closed, restocking takes place. We are in the close season. Saints have sold some stock and are in the midst of restocking. I do not have any insider knowledge, nor do the neggie veggies. None of my post remotely suggested that I have any insider knowledge. We know that Saints have sold their manager and replaced him. We know that three players have been sold. We know that two players have been bought. Those are all facts. What I am saying is that there is a long time to go until the transfer window closes. It is common knowledge that the club intends to buy more players. I notice that Tesco do not shout it from the rooftops whom they are going to employ. Neither do Saints! Any fool should know that football is a highly unpredictable business regarding results. It is also highly unpredictable about how good any new player will be at his club. For all we know, Adam Lallana could be a flop at Liverhampton, or he might be a great success. What we do know is that Liverhampton have good infrastructure. Things are in place there so as to help all possible success. Restocking is happening there also, but there is no guarantee of success. What is for certain, though, is that hard work and a positive outlook both help toward attaining any success. Anyway, George, let us look at what the neggie veggies are doing. Some of them are saying that Ronald Koeman is not a good manager. Some of them are saying that Katharina is asset stripping Saints, despite the club saying that money from player sales is available for player purchases. Some negative posters are basically saying that Ralph Kruger and Les Reed are rubbish. I don't believe any of that negativity, but I respect their entitlement to their opinions and their right to voice those opinions in this forum. My great wish is for all the negative posters to show some patience and wait and see what happens. The transfer window is still open and all football clubs are selling clubs, including the richest clubs. I am not reassuring anyone of anything. The reassurances will come from player arrivals. I reiterate that this is the close season. This is a situation a little like Tesco, when all their shops are closed and there are still many people working in the background. Once again, thank you so much for your Tesco analogy. Philip Clarke, Tesco's CEO resigned a couple of days ago. What a coincidence! Nicola Cortese resigned from Saints a while ago. Life does go on![/p][/quote]And they announced his replacement the day after. Dave Lewis. We don't do that when we sell our best players.[/p][/quote]What I want to know from our owner is just this. Does she have a five year plan for this club? If yes, what is it? If she doesn't, does she intend to sell the club? Is she going to extract money from the club to pay back loans to herself? If yes, when? What is the target finishing position for the team next season? A small range of positions will do. Does she want to win the FA Cup? Reasonable questions I think from a life long fan. This is why the lack of communication has started to frustrate me. RK has not kept his word. He has had six months now and delivered two major communications. Having said he communicate on a regular basis. Very poor in my view. I am beginning to think Seed was close to the truth in January/February. Currently I think we are being strung along to maximise the sale of season tickets.[/p][/quote]I can well understand your frustration. It is possibly similar for most Saints fans, including myself. My main interest at the moment regarding Saints is our playing squad for the new season. Whether or not the club communicates with its fans, before long we shall hear about more player arrivals or departures, perhaps both. It is fortunate for me that I am a patient guy, but I realise that other Saints fans are less tolerant of the present situation. I think they might do themselves a favour by considering that three of our best players have left the club and two new players have arrived. I am concentrating on this point because actual arrivals and departures are the only concrete things we know. I think we Saints fans are very special people. We are long suffering for many years and the club is very privileged to have us as supporters. It would obviously be much easier to support a bigger club, which regularly buys success, but for me, that sort of hollow victory has little value. That is why it is wonderful when an underdog club wins the FA Cup. I am not counting Portsmouth's winning of recent years because it was done on borrowed money the club could not repay. Such victories are as hollow as a bigger club buying success. I can hardly wait for the new season to start, by which time we might know a little more than we do today. Waiting for news from the club is almost like flogging a dead horse. It is all the more frustrating because these days we have instant communication and Saints have said they would communicate. I am trying to stay relaxed and tell myself that not having any news is good news. I live in hope that the frustration of we long suffering Saints fans will soon be at an end, at least until the next transfer window opens! One thing is for sure. There is never a dull moment for a Saints fan! Up the Saints!!![/p][/quote]Justasaintsfan, do you work for the PR department of SFC? You sound like the calm before the storm. george chivers
  • Score: 6

8:24pm Wed 23 Jul 14

notaclue says...

If we get Vlaar then he would be our Captain sooner rather than later, Fonte has only a year left on his contract, Steve Davis is not a guaranteed starter, Morgan well it is only a matter of when will he leave, The rest are kids or not the right for the job.
If we get Vlaar then he would be our Captain sooner rather than later, Fonte has only a year left on his contract, Steve Davis is not a guaranteed starter, Morgan well it is only a matter of when will he leave, The rest are kids or not the right for the job. notaclue
  • Score: 2

8:27pm Wed 23 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

notaclue wrote:
If we get Vlaar then he would be our Captain sooner rather than later, Fonte has only a year left on his contract, Steve Davis is not a guaranteed starter, Morgan well it is only a matter of when will he leave, The rest are kids or not the right for the job.
Big Vic could bang a few heads!
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: If we get Vlaar then he would be our Captain sooner rather than later, Fonte has only a year left on his contract, Steve Davis is not a guaranteed starter, Morgan well it is only a matter of when will he leave, The rest are kids or not the right for the job.[/p][/quote]Big Vic could bang a few heads! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -5

8:37pm Wed 23 Jul 14

notaclue says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
notaclue wrote:
If we get Vlaar then he would be our Captain sooner rather than later, Fonte has only a year left on his contract, Steve Davis is not a guaranteed starter, Morgan well it is only a matter of when will he leave, The rest are kids or not the right for the job.
Big Vic could bang a few heads!
Im guessing you know he just got red carded afterer 13 min for "Gross Misconduct" and are not serious, I getcha.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: If we get Vlaar then he would be our Captain sooner rather than later, Fonte has only a year left on his contract, Steve Davis is not a guaranteed starter, Morgan well it is only a matter of when will he leave, The rest are kids or not the right for the job.[/p][/quote]Big Vic could bang a few heads![/p][/quote]Im guessing you know he just got red carded afterer 13 min for "Gross Misconduct" and are not serious, I getcha. notaclue
  • Score: 3

9:23pm Wed 23 Jul 14

jls217 says...

george chivers wrote:
jls217 wrote:
george chivers wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment!
You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.?

Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief.

And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked.

I look forward to your reply.
Maybe it's just that we realize being negative is not going to achieve a single thing except make a miserable situation worse than it already is. No sane person wants to lose the backbone of their team in the way we have.
No idea what has really happened since XMAS to shake them all up - we can all speculate and occasionally get close to the truth maybe but none of us know for sure.
No real point in getting all bent out of shape for something we have no control over whatsoever.
I prefer to stay calm, optimistic and put my faith in the people who are paid to rectify this bloody awful mess. I can do nothing. How others react to the avalanche of bad news is entirely up to them but a long life on this planet has taught me a few things and one of the most valuable has been if you have nothing positive or pleasant to say it's best to shut the ferk up until you do. I don't always succeed in that aim but I try to stick to it as I do not want to make any negative situation worse than it already is by stupid, ill considered, ignorant, unnecessarily emotional comments or deeds. The only thing I'm sure of is I'm going to enjoy every single team, every single season I have left on the planet and every one is going to be better than the last one.
Admirable Attitude. But not one I am in tune with. I am also not young. But I believe in criticism where criticism is due and I won't shut up for the sake of a quiet life. I am prepared to give it and take it. But I am not prepared to shut up or to show deference to people who don't deserve it. The lack of communication from the board really annoys me after we were given assurances by RK it would be different with him at the helm. It's no different than when Cortese was in charge. RK has had time to update us but hasn't. Why? What is the Strategy?

I want an optimistic realistic life as a Saints supporter. Not one with ten coats of self applied delusional gloss on it because the people in charge keep us in the dark! Is KL here for the long run or just for the short term? I would like know from her!

Yesterday Cheltenham Saint wrote a great piece and said we should be trying to emulate Everton. Something I whole heartedly agree with in principal. But it is not comparing like with like. Everton are a stable club with stable ownership and a stable board. And an ex-manager (Moyes) who was there 14 years and a chairman (Kenwright) who seems to have been there forever.

In comparison we are an unstable club with a high turn of owners, directors and managers. We have had five managers since the Liebherrs bought the club. In the last 12 years it has been God knows how many, and the same with CEO's and directors. We've had great success in the past five years and I have enjoyed every minute of it.

That is why I get frustrated, because until we get continuity, stability and trust between the owners, the management team and the supporters, there will always be turmoil in the background. And personally I am fed up with it. To move forward as one we need stability, continuity and a public strategy. We don't have it.

Good luck with your quiet life its not for me.
Oh I can rant and rage along with the best of 'em George and from time to time I'm more 1812 overture than Swan Lake. Once I've calmed down though I quickly realize that I've probably scared the cats and earned a rebuke from a long suffering angel of a wife but the only thing I've achieved is pushed up my blood pressure and maybe brought the inevitable stroke/heart attack/aneurism a day closer.
I don't like what has been ripping my team apart any more than you or anyone else but I also know I'll be cheering on a team of u16's if that's all Saints have to put out at St. Mary's so I try (and sometimes fail) to keep calm about it all and enjoy the game win, lose or draw. I've seen this club close to it's last breath so nothing worse is going to happen next season than I've seen happen in recent years so that's why next season is going to be great and the one after that will be even better and I intend to be around to watch the 2034 season even if it's only on a crackly, grease stained screen in an ex-serviceman's home for the incontinent, deaf, lame and addled, my missus would put me there now if she could but I only meet 3 of the criterion above so can't. Happy days.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!![/p][/quote]There are none so blind as those who will not see.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment![/p][/quote]You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.? Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief. And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked. I look forward to your reply.[/p][/quote]Maybe it's just that we realize being negative is not going to achieve a single thing except make a miserable situation worse than it already is. No sane person wants to lose the backbone of their team in the way we have. No idea what has really happened since XMAS to shake them all up - we can all speculate and occasionally get close to the truth maybe but none of us know for sure. No real point in getting all bent out of shape for something we have no control over whatsoever. I prefer to stay calm, optimistic and put my faith in the people who are paid to rectify this bloody awful mess. I can do nothing. How others react to the avalanche of bad news is entirely up to them but a long life on this planet has taught me a few things and one of the most valuable has been if you have nothing positive or pleasant to say it's best to shut the ferk up until you do. I don't always succeed in that aim but I try to stick to it as I do not want to make any negative situation worse than it already is by stupid, ill considered, ignorant, unnecessarily emotional comments or deeds. The only thing I'm sure of is I'm going to enjoy every single team, every single season I have left on the planet and every one is going to be better than the last one.[/p][/quote]Admirable Attitude. But not one I am in tune with. I am also not young. But I believe in criticism where criticism is due and I won't shut up for the sake of a quiet life. I am prepared to give it and take it. But I am not prepared to shut up or to show deference to people who don't deserve it. The lack of communication from the board really annoys me after we were given assurances by RK it would be different with him at the helm. It's no different than when Cortese was in charge. RK has had time to update us but hasn't. Why? What is the Strategy? I want an optimistic realistic life as a Saints supporter. Not one with ten coats of self applied delusional gloss on it because the people in charge keep us in the dark! Is KL here for the long run or just for the short term? I would like know from her! Yesterday Cheltenham Saint wrote a great piece and said we should be trying to emulate Everton. Something I whole heartedly agree with in principal. But it is not comparing like with like. Everton are a stable club with stable ownership and a stable board. And an ex-manager (Moyes) who was there 14 years and a chairman (Kenwright) who seems to have been there forever. In comparison we are an unstable club with a high turn of owners, directors and managers. We have had five managers since the Liebherrs bought the club. In the last 12 years it has been God knows how many, and the same with CEO's and directors. We've had great success in the past five years and I have enjoyed every minute of it. That is why I get frustrated, because until we get continuity, stability and trust between the owners, the management team and the supporters, there will always be turmoil in the background. And personally I am fed up with it. To move forward as one we need stability, continuity and a public strategy. We don't have it. Good luck with your quiet life its not for me.[/p][/quote]Oh I can rant and rage along with the best of 'em George and from time to time I'm more 1812 overture than Swan Lake. Once I've calmed down though I quickly realize that I've probably scared the cats and earned a rebuke from a long suffering angel of a wife but the only thing I've achieved is pushed up my blood pressure and maybe brought the inevitable stroke/heart attack/aneurism a day closer. I don't like what has been ripping my team apart any more than you or anyone else but I also know I'll be cheering on a team of u16's if that's all Saints have to put out at St. Mary's so I try (and sometimes fail) to keep calm about it all and enjoy the game win, lose or draw. I've seen this club close to it's last breath so nothing worse is going to happen next season than I've seen happen in recent years so that's why next season is going to be great and the one after that will be even better and I intend to be around to watch the 2034 season even if it's only on a crackly, grease stained screen in an ex-serviceman's home for the incontinent, deaf, lame and addled, my missus would put me there now if she could but I only meet 3 of the criterion above so can't. Happy days. jls217
  • Score: -2

9:30pm Wed 23 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

notaclue wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
notaclue wrote:
If we get Vlaar then he would be our Captain sooner rather than later, Fonte has only a year left on his contract, Steve Davis is not a guaranteed starter, Morgan well it is only a matter of when will he leave, The rest are kids or not the right for the job.
Big Vic could bang a few heads!
Im guessing you know he just got red carded afterer 13 min for "Gross Misconduct" and are not serious, I getcha.
Yes, I think I was the first to mention it on here, silly Wany
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: If we get Vlaar then he would be our Captain sooner rather than later, Fonte has only a year left on his contract, Steve Davis is not a guaranteed starter, Morgan well it is only a matter of when will he leave, The rest are kids or not the right for the job.[/p][/quote]Big Vic could bang a few heads![/p][/quote]Im guessing you know he just got red carded afterer 13 min for "Gross Misconduct" and are not serious, I getcha.[/p][/quote]Yes, I think I was the first to mention it on here, silly Wany OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -2

9:39pm Wed 23 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
notaclue wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
notaclue wrote:
If we get Vlaar then he would be our Captain sooner rather than later, Fonte has only a year left on his contract, Steve Davis is not a guaranteed starter, Morgan well it is only a matter of when will he leave, The rest are kids or not the right for the job.
Big Vic could bang a few heads!
Im guessing you know he just got red carded afterer 13 min for "Gross Misconduct" and are not serious, I getcha.
Yes, I think I was the first to mention it on here, silly Wany
His red was for disputing a decision with the Referee, consensus is that it was more a misunderstanding than a malicious act, no further action appears to have been taken at the moment.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: If we get Vlaar then he would be our Captain sooner rather than later, Fonte has only a year left on his contract, Steve Davis is not a guaranteed starter, Morgan well it is only a matter of when will he leave, The rest are kids or not the right for the job.[/p][/quote]Big Vic could bang a few heads![/p][/quote]Im guessing you know he just got red carded afterer 13 min for "Gross Misconduct" and are not serious, I getcha.[/p][/quote]Yes, I think I was the first to mention it on here, silly Wany[/p][/quote]His red was for disputing a decision with the Referee, consensus is that it was more a misunderstanding than a malicious act, no further action appears to have been taken at the moment. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -3

9:58pm Wed 23 Jul 14

justaSaintsfan says...

george chivers wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
george chivers wrote:
george chivers wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
george chivers wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment!
You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.?

Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief.

And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked.

I look forward to your reply.
George, thank you for your Tesco analogy. The thing about going shopping (other than online) is that one needs to wait until the shop is open to find out the full range of goods that are available. When the shop is closed, restocking takes place. We are in the close season. Saints have sold some stock and are in the midst of restocking.

I do not have any insider knowledge, nor do the neggie veggies. None of my post remotely suggested that I have any insider knowledge. We know that Saints have sold their manager and replaced him. We know that three players have been sold. We know that two players have been bought. Those are all facts.

What I am saying is that there is a long time to go until the transfer window closes. It is common knowledge that the club intends to buy more players. I notice that Tesco do not shout it from the rooftops whom they are going to employ. Neither do Saints!

Any fool should know that football is a highly unpredictable business regarding results. It is also highly unpredictable about how good any new player will be at his club. For all we know, Adam Lallana could be a flop at Liverhampton, or he might be a great success. What we do know is that Liverhampton have good infrastructure. Things are in place there so as to help all possible success. Restocking is happening there also, but there is no guarantee of success. What is for certain, though, is that hard work and a positive outlook both help toward attaining any success.

Anyway, George, let us look at what the neggie veggies are doing. Some of them are saying that Ronald Koeman is not a good manager. Some of them are saying that Katharina is asset stripping Saints, despite the club saying that money from player sales is available for player purchases. Some negative posters are basically saying that Ralph Kruger and Les Reed are rubbish. I don't believe any of that negativity, but I respect their entitlement to their opinions and their right to voice those opinions in this forum.

My great wish is for all the negative posters to show some patience and wait and see what happens. The transfer window is still open and all football clubs are selling clubs, including the richest clubs. I am not reassuring anyone of anything. The reassurances will come from player arrivals. I reiterate that this is the close season. This is a situation a little like Tesco, when all their shops are closed and there are still many people working in the background.

Once again, thank you so much for your Tesco analogy. Philip Clarke, Tesco's CEO resigned a couple of days ago. What a coincidence! Nicola Cortese resigned from Saints a while ago. Life does go on!
And they announced his replacement the day after. Dave Lewis. We don't do that when we sell our best players.
What I want to know from our owner is just this.

Does she have a five year plan for this club?

If yes, what is it?

If she doesn't, does she intend to sell the club?

Is she going to extract money from the club to pay back loans to herself?

If yes, when?

What is the target finishing position for the team next season? A small range of positions will do.

Does she want to win the FA Cup?


Reasonable questions I think from a life long fan. This is why the lack of communication has started to frustrate me. RK has not kept his word. He has had six months now and delivered two major communications. Having said he communicate on a regular basis. Very poor in my view. I am beginning to think Seed was close to the truth in January/February.

Currently I think we are being strung along to maximise the sale of season tickets.
I can well understand your frustration. It is possibly similar for most Saints fans, including myself. My main interest at the moment regarding Saints is our playing squad for the new season. Whether or not the club communicates with its fans, before long we shall hear about more player arrivals or departures, perhaps both.

It is fortunate for me that I am a patient guy, but I realise that other Saints fans are less tolerant of the present situation. I think they might do themselves a favour by considering that three of our best players have left the club and two new players have arrived. I am concentrating on this point because actual arrivals and departures are the only concrete things we know.

I think we Saints fans are very special people. We are long suffering for many years and the club is very privileged to have us as supporters. It would obviously be much easier to support a bigger club, which regularly buys success, but for me, that sort of hollow victory has little value. That is why it is wonderful when an underdog club wins the FA Cup. I am not counting Portsmouth's winning of recent years because it was done on borrowed money the club could not repay. Such victories are as hollow as a bigger club buying success.

I can hardly wait for the new season to start, by which time we might know a little more than we do today. Waiting for news from the club is almost like flogging a dead horse. It is all the more frustrating because these days we have instant communication and Saints have said they would communicate. I am trying to stay relaxed and tell myself that not having any news is good news. I live in hope that the frustration of we long suffering Saints fans will soon be at an end, at least until the next transfer window opens!

One thing is for sure. There is never a dull moment for a Saints fan!

Up the Saints!!!
Justasaintsfan, do you work for the PR department of SFC?

You sound like the calm before the storm.
I have no other connection with Saints, apart from being a lifelong fan, who cares extremely deeply about the club. I have supported SFC through all circumstances, good or bad. My support continues, despite all the negativity.

You say that I sound like the calm before the storm. I have learned throughout my life that apprehension is always worse than the actual event. That is why I have not thrown my rattle out of the pram, unlike so many of my fellow Saints fans. I have a wait and see attitude towards what is going on at St. Marys. What alternative would you suggest? I believe in smelling the roses, rather than sniffing for poo that might not exist. The three positives are that we have a new manager and two new players. Those who have left are all history. This is a time for looking forwards, not to the past. I reckon much will become clear once the new season has got under way and the current transfer window closes. By then we should see if there is real cause for all the negative apprehension. Do you have any better ideas?

Whatever happens, I will keep right on being just a Saints fan, no better or worse than thousands of others. We still have a club and the club still has players. They are all Saints. I will continue supporting the shirt, loudly and strongly, regardless of which players wear it. If that is me being the calm before the storm, I will be very happy to attempt to live up to your high expectations.

Saints forever!!!
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!![/p][/quote]There are none so blind as those who will not see.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment![/p][/quote]You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.? Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief. And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked. I look forward to your reply.[/p][/quote]George, thank you for your Tesco analogy. The thing about going shopping (other than online) is that one needs to wait until the shop is open to find out the full range of goods that are available. When the shop is closed, restocking takes place. We are in the close season. Saints have sold some stock and are in the midst of restocking. I do not have any insider knowledge, nor do the neggie veggies. None of my post remotely suggested that I have any insider knowledge. We know that Saints have sold their manager and replaced him. We know that three players have been sold. We know that two players have been bought. Those are all facts. What I am saying is that there is a long time to go until the transfer window closes. It is common knowledge that the club intends to buy more players. I notice that Tesco do not shout it from the rooftops whom they are going to employ. Neither do Saints! Any fool should know that football is a highly unpredictable business regarding results. It is also highly unpredictable about how good any new player will be at his club. For all we know, Adam Lallana could be a flop at Liverhampton, or he might be a great success. What we do know is that Liverhampton have good infrastructure. Things are in place there so as to help all possible success. Restocking is happening there also, but there is no guarantee of success. What is for certain, though, is that hard work and a positive outlook both help toward attaining any success. Anyway, George, let us look at what the neggie veggies are doing. Some of them are saying that Ronald Koeman is not a good manager. Some of them are saying that Katharina is asset stripping Saints, despite the club saying that money from player sales is available for player purchases. Some negative posters are basically saying that Ralph Kruger and Les Reed are rubbish. I don't believe any of that negativity, but I respect their entitlement to their opinions and their right to voice those opinions in this forum. My great wish is for all the negative posters to show some patience and wait and see what happens. The transfer window is still open and all football clubs are selling clubs, including the richest clubs. I am not reassuring anyone of anything. The reassurances will come from player arrivals. I reiterate that this is the close season. This is a situation a little like Tesco, when all their shops are closed and there are still many people working in the background. Once again, thank you so much for your Tesco analogy. Philip Clarke, Tesco's CEO resigned a couple of days ago. What a coincidence! Nicola Cortese resigned from Saints a while ago. Life does go on![/p][/quote]And they announced his replacement the day after. Dave Lewis. We don't do that when we sell our best players.[/p][/quote]What I want to know from our owner is just this. Does she have a five year plan for this club? If yes, what is it? If she doesn't, does she intend to sell the club? Is she going to extract money from the club to pay back loans to herself? If yes, when? What is the target finishing position for the team next season? A small range of positions will do. Does she want to win the FA Cup? Reasonable questions I think from a life long fan. This is why the lack of communication has started to frustrate me. RK has not kept his word. He has had six months now and delivered two major communications. Having said he communicate on a regular basis. Very poor in my view. I am beginning to think Seed was close to the truth in January/February. Currently I think we are being strung along to maximise the sale of season tickets.[/p][/quote]I can well understand your frustration. It is possibly similar for most Saints fans, including myself. My main interest at the moment regarding Saints is our playing squad for the new season. Whether or not the club communicates with its fans, before long we shall hear about more player arrivals or departures, perhaps both. It is fortunate for me that I am a patient guy, but I realise that other Saints fans are less tolerant of the present situation. I think they might do themselves a favour by considering that three of our best players have left the club and two new players have arrived. I am concentrating on this point because actual arrivals and departures are the only concrete things we know. I think we Saints fans are very special people. We are long suffering for many years and the club is very privileged to have us as supporters. It would obviously be much easier to support a bigger club, which regularly buys success, but for me, that sort of hollow victory has little value. That is why it is wonderful when an underdog club wins the FA Cup. I am not counting Portsmouth's winning of recent years because it was done on borrowed money the club could not repay. Such victories are as hollow as a bigger club buying success. I can hardly wait for the new season to start, by which time we might know a little more than we do today. Waiting for news from the club is almost like flogging a dead horse. It is all the more frustrating because these days we have instant communication and Saints have said they would communicate. I am trying to stay relaxed and tell myself that not having any news is good news. I live in hope that the frustration of we long suffering Saints fans will soon be at an end, at least until the next transfer window opens! One thing is for sure. There is never a dull moment for a Saints fan! Up the Saints!!![/p][/quote]Justasaintsfan, do you work for the PR department of SFC? You sound like the calm before the storm.[/p][/quote]I have no other connection with Saints, apart from being a lifelong fan, who cares extremely deeply about the club. I have supported SFC through all circumstances, good or bad. My support continues, despite all the negativity. You say that I sound like the calm before the storm. I have learned throughout my life that apprehension is always worse than the actual event. That is why I have not thrown my rattle out of the pram, unlike so many of my fellow Saints fans. I have a wait and see attitude towards what is going on at St. Marys. What alternative would you suggest? I believe in smelling the roses, rather than sniffing for poo that might not exist. The three positives are that we have a new manager and two new players. Those who have left are all history. This is a time for looking forwards, not to the past. I reckon much will become clear once the new season has got under way and the current transfer window closes. By then we should see if there is real cause for all the negative apprehension. Do you have any better ideas? Whatever happens, I will keep right on being just a Saints fan, no better or worse than thousands of others. We still have a club and the club still has players. They are all Saints. I will continue supporting the shirt, loudly and strongly, regardless of which players wear it. If that is me being the calm before the storm, I will be very happy to attempt to live up to your high expectations. Saints forever!!! justaSaintsfan
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10:05pm Wed 23 Jul 14

justaSaintsfan says...

jls217 wrote:
george chivers wrote:
jls217 wrote:
george chivers wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Calm head in the manager's office.
Calm head with the captain's armband.
Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here.
Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?
I agree with every one of your words.

All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement.

I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club.

Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!!
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment!
You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.?

Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief.

And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked.

I look forward to your reply.
Maybe it's just that we realize being negative is not going to achieve a single thing except make a miserable situation worse than it already is. No sane person wants to lose the backbone of their team in the way we have.
No idea what has really happened since XMAS to shake them all up - we can all speculate and occasionally get close to the truth maybe but none of us know for sure.
No real point in getting all bent out of shape for something we have no control over whatsoever.
I prefer to stay calm, optimistic and put my faith in the people who are paid to rectify this bloody awful mess. I can do nothing. How others react to the avalanche of bad news is entirely up to them but a long life on this planet has taught me a few things and one of the most valuable has been if you have nothing positive or pleasant to say it's best to shut the ferk up until you do. I don't always succeed in that aim but I try to stick to it as I do not want to make any negative situation worse than it already is by stupid, ill considered, ignorant, unnecessarily emotional comments or deeds. The only thing I'm sure of is I'm going to enjoy every single team, every single season I have left on the planet and every one is going to be better than the last one.
Admirable Attitude. But not one I am in tune with. I am also not young. But I believe in criticism where criticism is due and I won't shut up for the sake of a quiet life. I am prepared to give it and take it. But I am not prepared to shut up or to show deference to people who don't deserve it. The lack of communication from the board really annoys me after we were given assurances by RK it would be different with him at the helm. It's no different than when Cortese was in charge. RK has had time to update us but hasn't. Why? What is the Strategy?

I want an optimistic realistic life as a Saints supporter. Not one with ten coats of self applied delusional gloss on it because the people in charge keep us in the dark! Is KL here for the long run or just for the short term? I would like know from her!

Yesterday Cheltenham Saint wrote a great piece and said we should be trying to emulate Everton. Something I whole heartedly agree with in principal. But it is not comparing like with like. Everton are a stable club with stable ownership and a stable board. And an ex-manager (Moyes) who was there 14 years and a chairman (Kenwright) who seems to have been there forever.

In comparison we are an unstable club with a high turn of owners, directors and managers. We have had five managers since the Liebherrs bought the club. In the last 12 years it has been God knows how many, and the same with CEO's and directors. We've had great success in the past five years and I have enjoyed every minute of it.

That is why I get frustrated, because until we get continuity, stability and trust between the owners, the management team and the supporters, there will always be turmoil in the background. And personally I am fed up with it. To move forward as one we need stability, continuity and a public strategy. We don't have it.

Good luck with your quiet life its not for me.
Oh I can rant and rage along with the best of 'em George and from time to time I'm more 1812 overture than Swan Lake. Once I've calmed down though I quickly realize that I've probably scared the cats and earned a rebuke from a long suffering angel of a wife but the only thing I've achieved is pushed up my blood pressure and maybe brought the inevitable stroke/heart attack/aneurism a day closer.
I don't like what has been ripping my team apart any more than you or anyone else but I also know I'll be cheering on a team of u16's if that's all Saints have to put out at St. Mary's so I try (and sometimes fail) to keep calm about it all and enjoy the game win, lose or draw. I've seen this club close to it's last breath so nothing worse is going to happen next season than I've seen happen in recent years so that's why next season is going to be great and the one after that will be even better and I intend to be around to watch the 2034 season even if it's only on a crackly, grease stained screen in an ex-serviceman's home for the incontinent, deaf, lame and addled, my missus would put me there now if she could but I only meet 3 of the criterion above so can't. Happy days.
I'll drink to that!!!
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Calm head in the manager's office. Calm head with the captain's armband. Blind panic and whining like spoilt eight-year-olds from a significant number of posters on here. Guess who I think might have the better idea of what's really happening?[/p][/quote]I agree with every one of your words. All the impatient, doom monger neggie veggies who think they know what is going on at Southampton FC need to be calm and realise that much hard work is happening at St. Marys to bring quality new players to the club. Acquiring new players involves lawyers, agents and possibly even obtaining work permits and translating documents. Players who jumped ship can all be replaced and Saints do have money available to do so. No player is irreplaceable. People are worrying about Lovren leaving. Ronald Koeman knows plenty about a centre half's job. Ron is the right person to get Lovren's replacement. I don't see the point of all the doom monger panic. Ronald Koeman and the Saints board are going about the club's business professionally and calmly. We fans will fairly soon be informed about the arrivals of new players, but only after deals have been done. The best thing we fans can do is be patient. Nothing good will ever come from slagging off Katharina or the board of directors. Surely it makes most sense to wait and see the full picture after the transfer window closes. Nobody is dismantling the club. That isn't happening. We need to have faith and support our club. Thanks for your wise words. I wish I could give you a hundred thumbs up!!![/p][/quote]There are none so blind as those who will not see.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more! Have you been to an optician lately? I suggest you make an appointment![/p][/quote]You are criticising the doom mongers etc, because they think they know what is going on, but don't, suggests from the bulk of your post that you do. As somebody who is very worried about our transfer dealings and the appointment of Jose as captain and what that suggests to me, perhaps you could put my mind at rest and share with everybody where you got your inside information from and how you are in the position to reassure us that everything will be o.k.? Apart from just believing everything will be ok, because at this point in time the evidence is not there to back up your statement and belief. And to tell people not to criticise KL and the board is just crazy. Any customer of any business has the right to criticise the supplier of a product or service if they think they are not getting value for money compared to what they were previously getting. Look at Tesco's results the customers have walked. I look forward to your reply.[/p][/quote]Maybe it's just that we realize being negative is not going to achieve a single thing except make a miserable situation worse than it already is. No sane person wants to lose the backbone of their team in the way we have. No idea what has really happened since XMAS to shake them all up - we can all speculate and occasionally get close to the truth maybe but none of us know for sure. No real point in getting all bent out of shape for something we have no control over whatsoever. I prefer to stay calm, optimistic and put my faith in the people who are paid to rectify this bloody awful mess. I can do nothing. How others react to the avalanche of bad news is entirely up to them but a long life on this planet has taught me a few things and one of the most valuable has been if you have nothing positive or pleasant to say it's best to shut the ferk up until you do. I don't always succeed in that aim but I try to stick to it as I do not want to make any negative situation worse than it already is by stupid, ill considered, ignorant, unnecessarily emotional comments or deeds. The only thing I'm sure of is I'm going to enjoy every single team, every single season I have left on the planet and every one is going to be better than the last one.[/p][/quote]Admirable Attitude. But not one I am in tune with. I am also not young. But I believe in criticism where criticism is due and I won't shut up for the sake of a quiet life. I am prepared to give it and take it. But I am not prepared to shut up or to show deference to people who don't deserve it. The lack of communication from the board really annoys me after we were given assurances by RK it would be different with him at the helm. It's no different than when Cortese was in charge. RK has had time to update us but hasn't. Why? What is the Strategy? I want an optimistic realistic life as a Saints supporter. Not one with ten coats of self applied delusional gloss on it because the people in charge keep us in the dark! Is KL here for the long run or just for the short term? I would like know from her! Yesterday Cheltenham Saint wrote a great piece and said we should be trying to emulate Everton. Something I whole heartedly agree with in principal. But it is not comparing like with like. Everton are a stable club with stable ownership and a stable board. And an ex-manager (Moyes) who was there 14 years and a chairman (Kenwright) who seems to have been there forever. In comparison we are an unstable club with a high turn of owners, directors and managers. We have had five managers since the Liebherrs bought the club. In the last 12 years it has been God knows how many, and the same with CEO's and directors. We've had great success in the past five years and I have enjoyed every minute of it. That is why I get frustrated, because until we get continuity, stability and trust between the owners, the management team and the supporters, there will always be turmoil in the background. And personally I am fed up with it. To move forward as one we need stability, continuity and a public strategy. We don't have it. Good luck with your quiet life its not for me.[/p][/quote]Oh I can rant and rage along with the best of 'em George and from time to time I'm more 1812 overture than Swan Lake. Once I've calmed down though I quickly realize that I've probably scared the cats and earned a rebuke from a long suffering angel of a wife but the only thing I've achieved is pushed up my blood pressure and maybe brought the inevitable stroke/heart attack/aneurism a day closer. I don't like what has been ripping my team apart any more than you or anyone else but I also know I'll be cheering on a team of u16's if that's all Saints have to put out at St. Mary's so I try (and sometimes fail) to keep calm about it all and enjoy the game win, lose or draw. I've seen this club close to it's last breath so nothing worse is going to happen next season than I've seen happen in recent years so that's why next season is going to be great and the one after that will be even better and I intend to be around to watch the 2034 season even if it's only on a crackly, grease stained screen in an ex-serviceman's home for the incontinent, deaf, lame and addled, my missus would put me there now if she could but I only meet 3 of the criterion above so can't. Happy days.[/p][/quote]I'll drink to that!!! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: -1

10:25pm Wed 23 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Nice to see some reinforcements with like minds, where have you been, I have been fighting a lone rear guard action for ages.
Nice to see some reinforcements with like minds, where have you been, I have been fighting a lone rear guard action for ages. OSPREYSAINT
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10:27pm Wed 23 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Nice to see some reinforcements with like minds, where have you been, I have been fighting a lone rear guard action for ages.
Not strictly true, I have had a few allies, they know who they are, thanks lads.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Nice to see some reinforcements with like minds, where have you been, I have been fighting a lone rear guard action for ages.[/p][/quote]Not strictly true, I have had a few allies, they know who they are, thanks lads. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -2

10:29pm Wed 23 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Nice to see some reinforcements with like minds, where have you been, I have been fighting a lone rear guard action for ages.
Not strictly true, I have had a few allies, they know who they are, thanks lads.
.. and lasses.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Nice to see some reinforcements with like minds, where have you been, I have been fighting a lone rear guard action for ages.[/p][/quote]Not strictly true, I have had a few allies, they know who they are, thanks lads.[/p][/quote].. and lasses. OSPREYSAINT
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