Southampton say they have no need to accept offers for their players

Saints chairman Ralph Krueger

Saints chairman Ralph Krueger

First published in Sport

Saints have issued a statement following the departure of Rickie Lambert to Liverpool, addressing the issue of transfers and the search for a new manager.

Here it is in full...

"Southampton Football Club can confirm that we have received multiple offers for some of our players in the past weeks. This is a confirmation of the depth of the development that is ongoing in our academy and of the present standing of our first team within the Premier League.

"We are staying true to our plan and vision and, as a result, we have no need to accept any offers.

"We are deep in the process of appointing a new manager who will continue to move our club forward.

"It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the new manager is in place.

"Our scouting & recruitment department continues to monitor targets we have identified to improve our squad, and the new manager will have final input into our recruitment process.

"However, Southampton Football Club can confirm that it has reached agreement with Liverpool for the transfer of Rickie Lambert.

"There may be circumstances under which the club will feel it is right for a player to move on. Those circumstances have to be right for the club and the player. This is the case with Rickie’s move to Liverpool.

"When Rickie Lambert requested to leave for Liverpool, the club felt it could not stand in the way of having him fulfil his boyhood dream of playing at home.

"It will be a big challenge to replace him and our intention is to source a quality replacement who will fill his shoes now but also for many years to come.

"Chairman Ralph Krueger commented: “On behalf of the club, I would like to thank Rickie. He served with distinction and helped to take Saints from League 1 to the Premier League.

“Rickie has been a shining light in Saints’ growth and will forever remain an icon in the history of the club. He leaves with the best wishes of everyone at Southampton and will always be welcome back at St Mary’s.”

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11:20am Mon 2 Jun 14

StevenGalton says...

I have nothing but respect for Rickie and all he has done for us. I genuinely wish him all the best!
I have nothing but respect for Rickie and all he has done for us. I genuinely wish him all the best! StevenGalton
  • Score: 77

11:22am Mon 2 Jun 14

saintmicky says...

Nice to have a statement especially when it says what you want to hear!
Nice to have a statement especially when it says what you want to hear! saintmicky
  • Score: 68

11:22am Mon 2 Jun 14

J7junctionseven says...

Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0( J7junctionseven
  • Score: -79

11:36am Mon 2 Jun 14

BracknellSaint says...

Right, well after the way we've been let down within days of previous 'announcements' I will reserve judgement on this for the time being.
If we get through the summer, with a new,TOP name in charge,with Adam/Luke/Morgan etc all still here, and with 3-4 TOP drawer additions, then I will accept/believe you Ralph. Until then, over to you to prove to us fans that you walk the walk, not just talk the talk.
Right, well after the way we've been let down within days of previous 'announcements' I will reserve judgement on this for the time being. If we get through the summer, with a new,TOP name in charge,with Adam/Luke/Morgan etc all still here, and with 3-4 TOP drawer additions, then I will accept/believe you Ralph. Until then, over to you to prove to us fans that you walk the walk, not just talk the talk. BracknellSaint
  • Score: -21

11:41am Mon 2 Jun 14

Mosin85 says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
i Personaly dont think Lallana will be moving unless the offer is far to good to turn down and the money could be used to buy a replacment so around the 30 - 35 million mark or if Lallana hands in a transfer requests which i just cant see Lallana doing considering how long he has been with us and that if he moves it'll be for a bench spot like Lambert and it'll ruin his England chances if he does so. i think this is a dam good statement saying that the clubs still has amibtion to improve on the final league posistion we achieved last year and that funds are and will be avalible when a new manager comes in. i for one am taking this statment as good news. Good bye Rickie thanks for all the great memorys you are a Legend here wish you luck and report back and let us know how the bench is at liverpool and whats its like swapping first team football for the subs bench and a wage hike
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]i Personaly dont think Lallana will be moving unless the offer is far to good to turn down and the money could be used to buy a replacment so around the 30 - 35 million mark or if Lallana hands in a transfer requests which i just cant see Lallana doing considering how long he has been with us and that if he moves it'll be for a bench spot like Lambert and it'll ruin his England chances if he does so. i think this is a dam good statement saying that the clubs still has amibtion to improve on the final league posistion we achieved last year and that funds are and will be avalible when a new manager comes in. i for one am taking this statment as good news. Good bye Rickie thanks for all the great memorys you are a Legend here wish you luck and report back and let us know how the bench is at liverpool and whats its like swapping first team football for the subs bench and a wage hike Mosin85
  • Score: 33

11:45am Mon 2 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Do you really believe that? redandy10 thinks it is all lies, allegedly, I haven't seen his official statement, just reading between the lines.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Do you really believe that? redandy10 thinks it is all lies, allegedly, I haven't seen his official statement, just reading between the lines. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -8

11:48am Mon 2 Jun 14

iswhite10 says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window. iswhite10
  • Score: 38

11:50am Mon 2 Jun 14

Alicesdad says...

This communication clearly states the same thing that Cortese used to.... only difference is that Cortese never used to tell anybody.

Mr Krueger makes a formal statement which is in keeping with what is usually expected of major corporate scale organisations. So hats of to him for that.

Now we wait. The first focus is to get a new manager. He must be the right calibre, have the right experience and w ant to play the type of football we have been used to seieng in recent seasons. I think the new man will have a high profile already, based on sucess, probably in Europe... I hope so anyway, the last thing we want is one of those club hopping scrappers that bounce around the leagues waiting to land a big club one day. We need someone who alrasy has the right reputation, we are Southampton and can demand that.

PATIENCE PEOPLE, PATIENCE.




.
This communication clearly states the same thing that Cortese used to.... only difference is that Cortese never used to tell anybody. Mr Krueger makes a formal statement which is in keeping with what is usually expected of major corporate scale organisations. So hats of to him for that. Now we wait. The first focus is to get a new manager. He must be the right calibre, have the right experience and w ant to play the type of football we have been used to seieng in recent seasons. I think the new man will have a high profile already, based on sucess, probably in Europe... I hope so anyway, the last thing we want is one of those club hopping scrappers that bounce around the leagues waiting to land a big club one day. We need someone who alrasy has the right reputation, we are Southampton and can demand that. PATIENCE PEOPLE, PATIENCE. . Alicesdad
  • Score: 35

11:50am Mon 2 Jun 14

SaintChris46 says...

My first ever post on here.

We can only now hope that RK and his team get in the right manager asap. While this statement is pleasing to read, unless it is followed up with actions showing Liverpool, Utd and all the other circling vultures that we will not be railroaded into selling our entire team on the cheap, then it is all hollow words.

Whilst many on here would like Benitez, is his style of play really suited to us? He would possibly attract some bigger names to us and his record in management is something we Saints fans can only dream about. Not sure though.
Yakin? An unknown quantity (same as MP when he arrived). Good record in Swiss league. Can he make the big step up to the Prem?
Koeman? Big name, but as a manager? What has he achieved that makes the board think he could take us to the next level?

I personally don't care who is appointed, so long as they give 100%, play a similar style to that which we have become accustomed, and that they can persuade our big names to stay at least one more season. Let's face it, Lallana and Shaw can only enhance their reputations further by staying here. If they are coveted now by the big clubs, that will not change after another season.
My first ever post on here. We can only now hope that RK and his team get in the right manager asap. While this statement is pleasing to read, unless it is followed up with actions showing Liverpool, Utd and all the other circling vultures that we will not be railroaded into selling our entire team on the cheap, then it is all hollow words. Whilst many on here would like Benitez, is his style of play really suited to us? He would possibly attract some bigger names to us and his record in management is something we Saints fans can only dream about. Not sure though. Yakin? An unknown quantity (same as MP when he arrived). Good record in Swiss league. Can he make the big step up to the Prem? Koeman? Big name, but as a manager? What has he achieved that makes the board think he could take us to the next level? I personally don't care who is appointed, so long as they give 100%, play a similar style to that which we have become accustomed, and that they can persuade our big names to stay at least one more season. Let's face it, Lallana and Shaw can only enhance their reputations further by staying here. If they are coveted now by the big clubs, that will not change after another season. SaintChris46
  • Score: 35

11:50am Mon 2 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

There is a possibility that our new Manager may not fancy some of our own favourites and could look to replace them, there will be plenty to talk about before the end of the Transfer Window, I predict a riot or two.
There is a possibility that our new Manager may not fancy some of our own favourites and could look to replace them, there will be plenty to talk about before the end of the Transfer Window, I predict a riot or two. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

11:51am Mon 2 Jun 14

el caballo santos101 says...

its good to hear that the club are turning down all those bids, even if its just for now.
a new manager may want to let certain players go in order to bring in his own choices but we will have to wait and see.
good luck to Super Rickie Lambert, you will get a great reception when you return to sms!
its good to hear that the club are turning down all those bids, even if its just for now. a new manager may want to let certain players go in order to bring in his own choices but we will have to wait and see. good luck to Super Rickie Lambert, you will get a great reception when you return to sms! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 17

12:01pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Smith187 says...

Ronald koeman for me, plays good attacking football apparently and no fear in bringing the youth through
Ronald koeman for me, plays good attacking football apparently and no fear in bringing the youth through Smith187
  • Score: 17

12:03pm Mon 2 Jun 14

SodburySaint93 says...

Nice words (again !!) Ralphy boy.

Any chance of some actions now - and I don't mean selling more players.

Can we have a manager please ?
Nice words (again !!) Ralphy boy. Any chance of some actions now - and I don't mean selling more players. Can we have a manager please ? SodburySaint93
  • Score: 3

12:05pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Mosin85 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
There is a possibility that our new Manager may not fancy some of our own favourites and could look to replace them, there will be plenty to talk about before the end of the Transfer Window, I predict a riot or two.
you make a good point OspreySaint, but with Lallana he is really the type of player you should be building a team around and because of this alone i dont see Lallana leaving unless as i said earlier the offer is to good to turn down. not many players in the world that is able to do the things Lallana can under the presure of two three players around him yet coming out with the ball stuck to his feet and picking a sweet pass out.

i would like young Sims in the first team i watched him play a few times and this lad has some serious talent that could go on to be better than Lallana? well thats my opinion of the youngster any way.

either way no matter what happens the future is still bright with some exciting young players waiting for the first team and players who was only fringe last year may try to push for the starting 11 eg Prowse who also like Sims will be a great player when older.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: There is a possibility that our new Manager may not fancy some of our own favourites and could look to replace them, there will be plenty to talk about before the end of the Transfer Window, I predict a riot or two.[/p][/quote]you make a good point OspreySaint, but with Lallana he is really the type of player you should be building a team around and because of this alone i dont see Lallana leaving unless as i said earlier the offer is to good to turn down. not many players in the world that is able to do the things Lallana can under the presure of two three players around him yet coming out with the ball stuck to his feet and picking a sweet pass out. i would like young Sims in the first team i watched him play a few times and this lad has some serious talent that could go on to be better than Lallana? well thats my opinion of the youngster any way. either way no matter what happens the future is still bright with some exciting young players waiting for the first team and players who was only fringe last year may try to push for the starting 11 eg Prowse who also like Sims will be a great player when older. Mosin85
  • Score: 9

12:16pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Mosin85 says...

SodburySaint93 wrote:
Nice words (again !!) Ralphy boy.

Any chance of some actions now - and I don't mean selling more players.

Can we have a manager please ?
Dont rush the appointment of a manager. it needs to be carefully made so as to make sure the wrong manager is not appointed. last thing we need is a david moyes coming in turning a great entertaining football into a bore fest where you dont want to go to games cause you will be bored watching. i hope an attacking manager comes in that likes the style of footballl we play and would look to keep it that way..

so board take as long as you want over the manager but dont wait around to long signings need to be made before all the good ones have gone or before the world cup is over.. wouldnt mind a brazillian forward to be honest some one with pace and flair, shouldnt be to hard to find
[quote][p][bold]SodburySaint93[/bold] wrote: Nice words (again !!) Ralphy boy. Any chance of some actions now - and I don't mean selling more players. Can we have a manager please ?[/p][/quote]Dont rush the appointment of a manager. it needs to be carefully made so as to make sure the wrong manager is not appointed. last thing we need is a david moyes coming in turning a great entertaining football into a bore fest where you dont want to go to games cause you will be bored watching. i hope an attacking manager comes in that likes the style of footballl we play and would look to keep it that way.. so board take as long as you want over the manager but dont wait around to long signings need to be made before all the good ones have gone or before the world cup is over.. wouldnt mind a brazillian forward to be honest some one with pace and flair, shouldnt be to hard to find Mosin85
  • Score: 9

12:18pm Mon 2 Jun 14

milton road says...

I think there is no doubt if Rickie had been 26 we would of turned the transfer down. At 32 this is his one and only chance to go to Liverpool his home town club> If we had refused that I think most of the players would have thought it wrong and many of the fans. Saints took and developed a player with serious potential, bringing through the leagues to 8th in the premiership. An England career and world cup spot. He re paid us especially in our rise to the premiership with a stream of goals that marked him as special.
We are a remarkable club who have risen from the ashes of administration to be potentially a top club. I think most will agree that Rickie Luke and Adam would not be on the plane to Brazil if they had played for anyone else. Simply they would not of been given the opportunities that Saints have given them.
I think RK is correct to delay transfers until a manager is appointed and decides what he wants from the cludb and players, it will obviously be his decision who goes and stays then.
Gkad for the statement above and in seriousness rickie was an exception and rightly so.
I think there is no doubt if Rickie had been 26 we would of turned the transfer down. At 32 this is his one and only chance to go to Liverpool his home town club> If we had refused that I think most of the players would have thought it wrong and many of the fans. Saints took and developed a player with serious potential, bringing through the leagues to 8th in the premiership. An England career and world cup spot. He re paid us especially in our rise to the premiership with a stream of goals that marked him as special. We are a remarkable club who have risen from the ashes of administration to be potentially a top club. I think most will agree that Rickie Luke and Adam would not be on the plane to Brazil if they had played for anyone else. Simply they would not of been given the opportunities that Saints have given them. I think RK is correct to delay transfers until a manager is appointed and decides what he wants from the cludb and players, it will obviously be his decision who goes and stays then. Gkad for the statement above and in seriousness rickie was an exception and rightly so. milton road
  • Score: 27

12:18pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Churchill Saint says...

Rickie, thanks for the last 5 years, you were are huge part of our success since -10 in League 1. For me your move to LFC is understandable and although sorry to see you go, wish you all the best.

RK's statement is encouraging - and he has already backed this up with actions by rejecting Liverpool's "final" offer of 25m, if reports are to be believed.

For me Moyes would be my number one choice because I think he would be in it for the long run and stability at the top is so important (don't we know it!). I think Koeman would be a very exciting appointment, although can't see him sticking it for the long term, hence my preference for Moyes.

I think things will be much clearer a week or so for now I will hold judgement on RK and the Board until then.
Rickie, thanks for the last 5 years, you were are huge part of our success since -10 in League 1. For me your move to LFC is understandable and although sorry to see you go, wish you all the best. RK's statement is encouraging - and he has already backed this up with actions by rejecting Liverpool's "final" offer of 25m, if reports are to be believed. For me Moyes would be my number one choice because I think he would be in it for the long run and stability at the top is so important (don't we know it!). I think Koeman would be a very exciting appointment, although can't see him sticking it for the long term, hence my preference for Moyes. I think things will be much clearer a week or so for now I will hold judgement on RK and the Board until then. Churchill Saint
  • Score: 1

12:21pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Thankyounicola says...

Time will tell. lets wait and see whats happens...I do worry when Mr Krueger releases a statement. I know for sure I'm not the only one :)
Time will tell. lets wait and see whats happens...I do worry when Mr Krueger releases a statement. I know for sure I'm not the only one :) Thankyounicola
  • Score: -10

12:23pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Buddy SFC says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
There is a possibility that our new Manager may not fancy some of our own favourites and could look to replace them, there will be plenty to talk about before the end of the Transfer Window, I predict a riot or two.
Why are we buying back Guly ????? :-)
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: There is a possibility that our new Manager may not fancy some of our own favourites and could look to replace them, there will be plenty to talk about before the end of the Transfer Window, I predict a riot or two.[/p][/quote]Why are we buying back Guly ????? :-) Buddy SFC
  • Score: -4

12:24pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Coopster44 says...

SaintChris46 wrote:
My first ever post on here.

We can only now hope that RK and his team get in the right manager asap. While this statement is pleasing to read, unless it is followed up with actions showing Liverpool, Utd and all the other circling vultures that we will not be railroaded into selling our entire team on the cheap, then it is all hollow words.

Whilst many on here would like Benitez, is his style of play really suited to us? He would possibly attract some bigger names to us and his record in management is something we Saints fans can only dream about. Not sure though.
Yakin? An unknown quantity (same as MP when he arrived). Good record in Swiss league. Can he make the big step up to the Prem?
Koeman? Big name, but as a manager? What has he achieved that makes the board think he could take us to the next level?

I personally don't care who is appointed, so long as they give 100%, play a similar style to that which we have become accustomed, and that they can persuade our big names to stay at least one more season. Let's face it, Lallana and Shaw can only enhance their reputations further by staying here. If they are coveted now by the big clubs, that will not change after another season.
Ronald Koeman would actually be an excellent choice. Not only does he have the football worlds respect which is good to attract players but he did brilliantly at Feyenoord. They were 11th in the Dutch league when he took over and have since finished 2nd twice and 3rd once. He plays an attacking style of football (they scored the most goals in the league last year) but he is also excellent at working with youngsters and bringing players through from the academy.

I spoke to a life long Feyenoord fan yesterday and he said he is loved by their fans and would be a perfect fit at saints with his style of play and use of the academy.
[quote][p][bold]SaintChris46[/bold] wrote: My first ever post on here. We can only now hope that RK and his team get in the right manager asap. While this statement is pleasing to read, unless it is followed up with actions showing Liverpool, Utd and all the other circling vultures that we will not be railroaded into selling our entire team on the cheap, then it is all hollow words. Whilst many on here would like Benitez, is his style of play really suited to us? He would possibly attract some bigger names to us and his record in management is something we Saints fans can only dream about. Not sure though. Yakin? An unknown quantity (same as MP when he arrived). Good record in Swiss league. Can he make the big step up to the Prem? Koeman? Big name, but as a manager? What has he achieved that makes the board think he could take us to the next level? I personally don't care who is appointed, so long as they give 100%, play a similar style to that which we have become accustomed, and that they can persuade our big names to stay at least one more season. Let's face it, Lallana and Shaw can only enhance their reputations further by staying here. If they are coveted now by the big clubs, that will not change after another season.[/p][/quote]Ronald Koeman would actually be an excellent choice. Not only does he have the football worlds respect which is good to attract players but he did brilliantly at Feyenoord. They were 11th in the Dutch league when he took over and have since finished 2nd twice and 3rd once. He plays an attacking style of football (they scored the most goals in the league last year) but he is also excellent at working with youngsters and bringing players through from the academy. I spoke to a life long Feyenoord fan yesterday and he said he is loved by their fans and would be a perfect fit at saints with his style of play and use of the academy. Coopster44
  • Score: 13

12:25pm Mon 2 Jun 14

allsaintsnocurves says...

Lallana won't be leaving for anything less than £30m mark my words. If he has a great World cup expect this to even increase.

Shaw won't be leaving for anything less than £30m either. Any decisions around a player swap for less money would only be decided by a new manager so not something we could agree to before them being appointed.

I feel better about knowing we won't let anyone go on the cheap now. I think Ricky was as surprised as any of us that Liverpool were interested in him. Fair play and good luck to him!
Lallana won't be leaving for anything less than £30m mark my words. If he has a great World cup expect this to even increase. Shaw won't be leaving for anything less than £30m either. Any decisions around a player swap for less money would only be decided by a new manager so not something we could agree to before them being appointed. I feel better about knowing we won't let anyone go on the cheap now. I think Ricky was as surprised as any of us that Liverpool were interested in him. Fair play and good luck to him! allsaintsnocurves
  • Score: 13

12:27pm Mon 2 Jun 14

jls217 says...

Well there it is then. There are those on here who have been spitting feathers at the lack of communication - now they have one. I fully expect the same people to be accusing everyone down to and including the groundsmen to be liars and **** strippers etc etc etc.

We must all take great note of what he says. He has not said there will be no further sales what he has said is,
"It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the new manager is in place"
Which presumably means if something comes in that is too good a business move to say no to we reserve the right to take advantage of it - as fans we should expect that to be the case and not try to burn him at the stake if the tealady is sold for 50mill.
Well there it is then. There are those on here who have been spitting feathers at the lack of communication - now they have one. I fully expect the same people to be accusing everyone down to and including the groundsmen to be liars and **** strippers etc etc etc. We must all take great note of what he says. He has not said there will be no further sales what he has said is, "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the new manager is in place" Which presumably means if something comes in that is too good a business move to say no to we reserve the right to take advantage of it - as fans we should expect that to be the case and not try to burn him at the stake if the tealady is sold for 50mill. jls217
  • Score: 14

12:28pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Mosin85 says...

Churchill Saint wrote:
Rickie, thanks for the last 5 years, you were are huge part of our success since -10 in League 1. For me your move to LFC is understandable and although sorry to see you go, wish you all the best.

RK's statement is encouraging - and he has already backed this up with actions by rejecting Liverpool's "final" offer of 25m, if reports are to be believed.

For me Moyes would be my number one choice because I think he would be in it for the long run and stability at the top is so important (don't we know it!). I think Koeman would be a very exciting appointment, although can't see him sticking it for the long term, hence my preference for Moyes.

I think things will be much clearer a week or so for now I will hold judgement on RK and the Board until then.
i wouldnt like the boring footbll david moyes brings with him, yes if you want long ball defensive football for the forseeable future then yes appoint him, i would rather watch football the way its ment to be played. would rather adkins come back than moyes being put in charge
[quote][p][bold]Churchill Saint[/bold] wrote: Rickie, thanks for the last 5 years, you were are huge part of our success since -10 in League 1. For me your move to LFC is understandable and although sorry to see you go, wish you all the best. RK's statement is encouraging - and he has already backed this up with actions by rejecting Liverpool's "final" offer of 25m, if reports are to be believed. For me Moyes would be my number one choice because I think he would be in it for the long run and stability at the top is so important (don't we know it!). I think Koeman would be a very exciting appointment, although can't see him sticking it for the long term, hence my preference for Moyes. I think things will be much clearer a week or so for now I will hold judgement on RK and the Board until then.[/p][/quote]i wouldnt like the boring footbll david moyes brings with him, yes if you want long ball defensive football for the forseeable future then yes appoint him, i would rather watch football the way its ment to be played. would rather adkins come back than moyes being put in charge Mosin85
  • Score: 9

12:28pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Toxteth Red says...

Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.
Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad. Toxteth Red
  • Score: -29

12:36pm Mon 2 Jun 14

J7junctionseven says...

iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you.
Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative.
Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.
[quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you. Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative. Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now. J7junctionseven
  • Score: -4

12:38pm Mon 2 Jun 14

BracknellSaint says...

Toxteth Red wrote:
Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.
He can put it in writing, fine.
Price will still be 30 Million plus, so up to Liverpool to decide if they're serious or not. And we can still say no anyway, as you did with Suarez.
Simple enough.
[quote][p][bold]Toxteth Red[/bold] wrote: Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.[/p][/quote]He can put it in writing, fine. Price will still be 30 Million plus, so up to Liverpool to decide if they're serious or not. And we can still say no anyway, as you did with Suarez. Simple enough. BracknellSaint
  • Score: 26

12:39pm Mon 2 Jun 14

J7junctionseven says...

Thankyounicola wrote:
Time will tell. lets wait and see whats happens...I do worry when Mr Krueger releases a statement. I know for sure I'm not the only one :)
Ditto...But you'll get slagged of of your so called negative thinking!!
[quote][p][bold]Thankyounicola[/bold] wrote: Time will tell. lets wait and see whats happens...I do worry when Mr Krueger releases a statement. I know for sure I'm not the only one :)[/p][/quote]Ditto...But you'll get slagged of of your so called negative thinking!! J7junctionseven
  • Score: -14

12:41pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Mosin85 says...

Toxteth Red wrote:
Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.
i wouldnt be so sure of that, remind me did Suarez leave last year when he handed in a transfer request no!!!! and spoke on live tv saying he wants out of liverpool? ahh yes i remember. so you liverpool fans have nowt to say. least with Lallana we made him the player he is, Suarez was top quility before you even brought him. their is no reliable source up there seeing as Lallana is a saints player and what the board says goes weather he hands in a request or not. any way go back to yor liverpool echo this is for saints fans not liverpool scum.... orr you could tell us a story about how to lose the premership title with 3 games to go :D go on would love to hear the sotry about how liverpool lost the league with 3 games to go... be an epic story that probs be a best seller.
[quote][p][bold]Toxteth Red[/bold] wrote: Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.[/p][/quote]i wouldnt be so sure of that, remind me did Suarez leave last year when he handed in a transfer request no!!!! and spoke on live tv saying he wants out of liverpool? ahh yes i remember. so you liverpool fans have nowt to say. least with Lallana we made him the player he is, Suarez was top quility before you even brought him. their is no reliable source up there seeing as Lallana is a saints player and what the board says goes weather he hands in a request or not. any way go back to yor liverpool echo this is for saints fans not liverpool scum.... orr you could tell us a story about how to lose the premership title with 3 games to go :D go on would love to hear the sotry about how liverpool lost the league with 3 games to go... be an epic story that probs be a best seller. Mosin85
  • Score: 12

12:42pm Mon 2 Jun 14

BehindEnemyLines says...

The bad news for you Toxteth is that we have replaced Rickie Lambert with a wooden replica (much like Andy Carrol) and filled him with thousand of miniature RedArmy's to invade your club and shout war tribes in block capitals...ha ha
The bad news for you Toxteth is that we have replaced Rickie Lambert with a wooden replica (much like Andy Carrol) and filled him with thousand of miniature RedArmy's to invade your club and shout war tribes in block capitals...ha ha BehindEnemyLines
  • Score: 4

12:44pm Mon 2 Jun 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

Yes it ALL makes perfect sense.

OFFLOAD a proven Double Figure Scoring Player (for sentimental reasons) for 4 million on £35,000 a week for another Player who does not have the prestige of playing for ENGLAND for a whole load more money.

Player A had a perfect Peanlty Taking record - an asset in the Dressing Room and provided assists as well as goals.

Player B - is unproven.

YES - Good Business and Good Decision Making - it all becomes crystal clear.
Yes it ALL makes perfect sense. OFFLOAD a proven Double Figure Scoring Player (for sentimental reasons) for 4 million on £35,000 a week for another Player who does not have the prestige of playing for ENGLAND for a whole load more money. Player A had a perfect Peanlty Taking record - an asset in the Dressing Room and provided assists as well as goals. Player B - is unproven. YES - Good Business and Good Decision Making - it all becomes crystal clear. The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: -23

12:45pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Saint. says...

On a slightly different subject...there is a strong possibility that Nike are to make our new kit.
On a slightly different subject...there is a strong possibility that Nike are to make our new kit. Saint.
  • Score: 9

12:49pm Mon 2 Jun 14

J7junctionseven says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Yes it ALL makes perfect sense.

OFFLOAD a proven Double Figure Scoring Player (for sentimental reasons) for 4 million on £35,000 a week for another Player who does not have the prestige of playing for ENGLAND for a whole load more money.

Player A had a perfect Peanlty Taking record - an asset in the Dressing Room and provided assists as well as goals.

Player B - is unproven.

YES - Good Business and Good Decision Making - it all becomes crystal clear.
Careful....Far to negative for some on here. You'll be told to keep your "ridiculous knee jerk cynicsms" to yourself if you're not careful....:o)
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: Yes it ALL makes perfect sense. OFFLOAD a proven Double Figure Scoring Player (for sentimental reasons) for 4 million on £35,000 a week for another Player who does not have the prestige of playing for ENGLAND for a whole load more money. Player A had a perfect Peanlty Taking record - an asset in the Dressing Room and provided assists as well as goals. Player B - is unproven. YES - Good Business and Good Decision Making - it all becomes crystal clear.[/p][/quote]Careful....Far to negative for some on here. You'll be told to keep your "ridiculous knee jerk cynicsms" to yourself if you're not careful....:o) J7junctionseven
  • Score: -13

12:53pm Mon 2 Jun 14

BracknellSaint says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Yes it ALL makes perfect sense.

OFFLOAD a proven Double Figure Scoring Player (for sentimental reasons) for 4 million on £35,000 a week for another Player who does not have the prestige of playing for ENGLAND for a whole load more money.

Player A had a perfect Peanlty Taking record - an asset in the Dressing Room and provided assists as well as goals.

Player B - is unproven.

YES - Good Business and Good Decision Making - it all becomes crystal clear.
I'm as worried as the next man, but shall we try and give the board the benefit of the doubt?
I mean, even before Jay-Rod's injury we were one striker short of really pushing into the top 5-6, so board will already have been planning on that addition, and the fact that they were able to so quickly agree to SRL leaving must surely mean that in fact they already have 2 signings lined up. In fact, knowing that Jay is also out until maybe Oct/Nov, they have in fact got THREE attacking players waiting to put pen to paper, hence we were able to show sentiment, and allow SRL his dream move.
That MUST be the case, SURELY?? I mean, anything else would be madness, so can't possibly happen, right?!
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: Yes it ALL makes perfect sense. OFFLOAD a proven Double Figure Scoring Player (for sentimental reasons) for 4 million on £35,000 a week for another Player who does not have the prestige of playing for ENGLAND for a whole load more money. Player A had a perfect Peanlty Taking record - an asset in the Dressing Room and provided assists as well as goals. Player B - is unproven. YES - Good Business and Good Decision Making - it all becomes crystal clear.[/p][/quote]I'm as worried as the next man, but shall we try and give the board the benefit of the doubt? I mean, even before Jay-Rod's injury we were one striker short of really pushing into the top 5-6, so board will already have been planning on that addition, and the fact that they were able to so quickly agree to SRL leaving must surely mean that in fact they already have 2 signings lined up. In fact, knowing that Jay is also out until maybe Oct/Nov, they have in fact got THREE attacking players waiting to put pen to paper, hence we were able to show sentiment, and allow SRL his dream move. That MUST be the case, SURELY?? I mean, anything else would be madness, so can't possibly happen, right?! BracknellSaint
  • Score: 2

12:55pm Mon 2 Jun 14

J7junctionseven says...

Saint. wrote:
On a slightly different subject...there is a strong possibility that Nike are to make our new kit.
Must be the only decent kit manufacturer left that we can deal with. Umbro have gone and Adidas won't touch us again. Rather them than Puma or some other crap like Sondico.......we all know who's kit they supply!!...:o)
[quote][p][bold]Saint.[/bold] wrote: On a slightly different subject...there is a strong possibility that Nike are to make our new kit.[/p][/quote]Must be the only decent kit manufacturer left that we can deal with. Umbro have gone and Adidas won't touch us again. Rather them than Puma or some other crap like Sondico.......we all know who's kit they supply!!...:o) J7junctionseven
  • Score: -4

12:55pm Mon 2 Jun 14

jls217 says...

Toxteth Red wrote:
Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.
Thanks for a reasonable and not unpleasant post (we've had some real tossers posting on here from up there)
Just because Adam puts in for a move doesn't guarantee the club will grant it, remember you played hardball with your prize asset and told him to just get on with his game and that turned out well for him and for the club.
Hope you're right on the Lovren front because for my money he would be harder to replace than Adam for us. You shouldn't have too much of a problem to find an alternative because you have both the money and power to pull in big names - we have to grow our own, find 'em before they becomes stars or catch them as they just fall off the top places to squeeze another season or two out of 'em - that is hopefully about to change and in the future we'll be able to command the sort of respect the Reds currently do - be warned we're not that far from it now. In Lambert you have captured a diamond of a player and a bloke - his heart has always been up there on the Mersey and the only time I want him to fall flat on his rissole is when he faces us - An absolute gem of a professional - almost a dying breed when you look at the attitudes of far too many of the younger guns out there. I hope you end up loving him as much as he clearly loves the Kop.
[quote][p][bold]Toxteth Red[/bold] wrote: Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.[/p][/quote]Thanks for a reasonable and not unpleasant post (we've had some real tossers posting on here from up there) Just because Adam puts in for a move doesn't guarantee the club will grant it, remember you played hardball with your prize asset and told him to just get on with his game and that turned out well for him and for the club. Hope you're right on the Lovren front because for my money he would be harder to replace than Adam for us. You shouldn't have too much of a problem to find an alternative because you have both the money and power to pull in big names - we have to grow our own, find 'em before they becomes stars or catch them as they just fall off the top places to squeeze another season or two out of 'em - that is hopefully about to change and in the future we'll be able to command the sort of respect the Reds currently do - be warned we're not that far from it now. In Lambert you have captured a diamond of a player and a bloke - his heart has always been up there on the Mersey and the only time I want him to fall flat on his rissole is when he faces us - An absolute gem of a professional - almost a dying breed when you look at the attitudes of far too many of the younger guns out there. I hope you end up loving him as much as he clearly loves the Kop. jls217
  • Score: 19

12:55pm Mon 2 Jun 14

SaintChris46 says...

Coopster44 wrote:
SaintChris46 wrote:
My first ever post on here.

We can only now hope that RK and his team get in the right manager asap. While this statement is pleasing to read, unless it is followed up with actions showing Liverpool, Utd and all the other circling vultures that we will not be railroaded into selling our entire team on the cheap, then it is all hollow words.

Whilst many on here would like Benitez, is his style of play really suited to us? He would possibly attract some bigger names to us and his record in management is something we Saints fans can only dream about. Not sure though.
Yakin? An unknown quantity (same as MP when he arrived). Good record in Swiss league. Can he make the big step up to the Prem?
Koeman? Big name, but as a manager? What has he achieved that makes the board think he could take us to the next level?

I personally don't care who is appointed, so long as they give 100%, play a similar style to that which we have become accustomed, and that they can persuade our big names to stay at least one more season. Let's face it, Lallana and Shaw can only enhance their reputations further by staying here. If they are coveted now by the big clubs, that will not change after another season.
Ronald Koeman would actually be an excellent choice. Not only does he have the football worlds respect which is good to attract players but he did brilliantly at Feyenoord. They were 11th in the Dutch league when he took over and have since finished 2nd twice and 3rd once. He plays an attacking style of football (they scored the most goals in the league last year) but he is also excellent at working with youngsters and bringing players through from the academy.

I spoke to a life long Feyenoord fan yesterday and he said he is loved by their fans and would be a perfect fit at saints with his style of play and use of the academy.
And he wants the job (according to the press). Let's bring him in asap. Just hope he doesn't see us as a stepping stone to one of the "big" teams - Spurs at Christmas springs to mind!
[quote][p][bold]Coopster44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintChris46[/bold] wrote: My first ever post on here. We can only now hope that RK and his team get in the right manager asap. While this statement is pleasing to read, unless it is followed up with actions showing Liverpool, Utd and all the other circling vultures that we will not be railroaded into selling our entire team on the cheap, then it is all hollow words. Whilst many on here would like Benitez, is his style of play really suited to us? He would possibly attract some bigger names to us and his record in management is something we Saints fans can only dream about. Not sure though. Yakin? An unknown quantity (same as MP when he arrived). Good record in Swiss league. Can he make the big step up to the Prem? Koeman? Big name, but as a manager? What has he achieved that makes the board think he could take us to the next level? I personally don't care who is appointed, so long as they give 100%, play a similar style to that which we have become accustomed, and that they can persuade our big names to stay at least one more season. Let's face it, Lallana and Shaw can only enhance their reputations further by staying here. If they are coveted now by the big clubs, that will not change after another season.[/p][/quote]Ronald Koeman would actually be an excellent choice. Not only does he have the football worlds respect which is good to attract players but he did brilliantly at Feyenoord. They were 11th in the Dutch league when he took over and have since finished 2nd twice and 3rd once. He plays an attacking style of football (they scored the most goals in the league last year) but he is also excellent at working with youngsters and bringing players through from the academy. I spoke to a life long Feyenoord fan yesterday and he said he is loved by their fans and would be a perfect fit at saints with his style of play and use of the academy.[/p][/quote]And he wants the job (according to the press). Let's bring him in asap. Just hope he doesn't see us as a stepping stone to one of the "big" teams - Spurs at Christmas springs to mind! SaintChris46
  • Score: 9

1:02pm Mon 2 Jun 14

jls217 says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Saint. wrote:
On a slightly different subject...there is a strong possibility that Nike are to make our new kit.
Must be the only decent kit manufacturer left that we can deal with. Umbro have gone and Adidas won't touch us again. Rather them than Puma or some other crap like Sondico.......we all know who's kit they supply!!...:o)
Not overly concerned who supplies it as long as it's Red/white/black preferably striped in some form and not an off the peg one like last season although I admit to hating it less by the end of the season that I did at the start I'd still prefer to see back in stripes and yellow and blue away. Has any sort of public announcement been made yet about date/style etc?
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint.[/bold] wrote: On a slightly different subject...there is a strong possibility that Nike are to make our new kit.[/p][/quote]Must be the only decent kit manufacturer left that we can deal with. Umbro have gone and Adidas won't touch us again. Rather them than Puma or some other crap like Sondico.......we all know who's kit they supply!!...:o)[/p][/quote]Not overly concerned who supplies it as long as it's Red/white/black preferably striped in some form and not an off the peg one like last season although I admit to hating it less by the end of the season that I did at the start I'd still prefer to see back in stripes and yellow and blue away. Has any sort of public announcement been made yet about date/style etc? jls217
  • Score: 2

1:02pm Mon 2 Jun 14

StElsass says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you.
Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative.
Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.
On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere.
On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances.
Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here.

And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you. Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative. Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.[/p][/quote]On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere. On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances. Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here. And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting.... StElsass
  • Score: 27

1:09pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Costa Baz says...

I think there are plenty using this forum that want to see the club implode, just so they can say "told you so".
Tossers
I think there are plenty using this forum that want to see the club implode, just so they can say "told you so". Tossers Costa Baz
  • Score: 26

1:10pm Mon 2 Jun 14

isolated saint says...

BBC sports news is reporting that the new manager will have £50m to spend now without any sales money. RK is quoted as saying they are drawing up a list to interview shortly.
BBC sports news is reporting that the new manager will have £50m to spend now without any sales money. RK is quoted as saying they are drawing up a list to interview shortly. isolated saint
  • Score: 10

1:12pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Toxteth Red says...

Mosin85 wrote:
Toxteth Red wrote:
Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.
i wouldnt be so sure of that, remind me did Suarez leave last year when he handed in a transfer request no!!!! and spoke on live tv saying he wants out of liverpool? ahh yes i remember. so you liverpool fans have nowt to say. least with Lallana we made him the player he is, Suarez was top quility before you even brought him. their is no reliable source up there seeing as Lallana is a saints player and what the board says goes weather he hands in a request or not. any way go back to yor liverpool echo this is for saints fans not liverpool scum.... orr you could tell us a story about how to lose the premership title with 3 games to go :D go on would love to hear the sotry about how liverpool lost the league with 3 games to go... be an epic story that probs be a best seller.
"weather he hands in a request or not"
Come rain or shine? Ha ha.

The thing with Suarez is that he was made to see that Liverpool were a team looking to improve the next season and were a team on the up.

You have no chance persuading that to Adam when he can see everyone else around him wanting out including the owners.
[quote][p][bold]Mosin85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Toxteth Red[/bold] wrote: Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.[/p][/quote]i wouldnt be so sure of that, remind me did Suarez leave last year when he handed in a transfer request no!!!! and spoke on live tv saying he wants out of liverpool? ahh yes i remember. so you liverpool fans have nowt to say. least with Lallana we made him the player he is, Suarez was top quility before you even brought him. their is no reliable source up there seeing as Lallana is a saints player and what the board says goes weather he hands in a request or not. any way go back to yor liverpool echo this is for saints fans not liverpool scum.... orr you could tell us a story about how to lose the premership title with 3 games to go :D go on would love to hear the sotry about how liverpool lost the league with 3 games to go... be an epic story that probs be a best seller.[/p][/quote]"weather he hands in a request or not" Come rain or shine? Ha ha. The thing with Suarez is that he was made to see that Liverpool were a team looking to improve the next season and were a team on the up. You have no chance persuading that to Adam when he can see everyone else around him wanting out including the owners. Toxteth Red
  • Score: -17

1:34pm Mon 2 Jun 14

THE12THMAN says...

Toxteth Red wrote:
Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.
The reason Liverpool want to sign Lallana before the World Cup is they know to well that if he has a good World Cup his value will rise. As I said before LFC pay up or shut up.
[quote][p][bold]Toxteth Red[/bold] wrote: Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.[/p][/quote]The reason Liverpool want to sign Lallana before the World Cup is they know to well that if he has a good World Cup his value will rise. As I said before LFC pay up or shut up. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 12

1:34pm Mon 2 Jun 14

THE12THMAN says...

Toxteth Red wrote:
Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.
The reason Liverpool want to sign Lallana before the World Cup is they know to well that if he has a good World Cup his value will rise. As I said before LFC pay up or shut up.
[quote][p][bold]Toxteth Red[/bold] wrote: Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.[/p][/quote]The reason Liverpool want to sign Lallana before the World Cup is they know to well that if he has a good World Cup his value will rise. As I said before LFC pay up or shut up. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 8

1:37pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Mush On The Beach says...

Toxteth Red wrote:
Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.
Reliable sources down here say that you have as much chance of signing Rickie Lambert as Real Madrid have of signing Luis Suarez ..... Adios Lar.
[quote][p][bold]Toxteth Red[/bold] wrote: Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.[/p][/quote]Reliable sources down here say that you have as much chance of signing Rickie Lambert as Real Madrid have of signing Luis Suarez ..... Adios Lar. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 7

1:43pm Mon 2 Jun 14

J7junctionseven says...

StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you.
Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative.
Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.
On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere.
On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances.
Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here.

And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....
I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion.
My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment.
Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.
[quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you. Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative. Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.[/p][/quote]On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere. On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances. Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here. And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....[/p][/quote]I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion. My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment. Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point. J7junctionseven
  • Score: -9

2:01pm Mon 2 Jun 14

SaintJD says...

iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
'If Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?'

Very easily actually. This is a football club and a business first and foremost, it isn't a charity as far as I'm aware.

Personally I'd put the wishes of 30,000 stakeholders (fans and the club) ahead of the wishes of individuals who signed long term contracts in good faith because, a year ago, they wanted to secure their place in the Premier League with Saints, thus getting the chance to showcase their talents and get in the England squad.

Luke is arguable, but the key thing is not to start an exodus and the only way we may be able to do this is by clamping down.

People will say contracts aren't worth the paper they are written on, but if that's the case why did we have the likes of Barnard and Forecast on our books sitting around for five seasons?

I didn't see them happily agreeing to terminate their deals.

No, sorry, unless the money allows us to replace those players with equal quality replacements and money over they can get lost.

Luke's case is less clear cut, but if you're telling me we can replace Adam Lallana for less than £20 million (once the Bournemouth money is taken into account) I'd have to argue about that.

He's our captain and as our captain he needs to lead by example, accept we need him and get on with it.

I just hope any new manager comes in and insists on seeing the players in action before sanctioning any deals, because it's very easy to take the money to bring in your own players if you don't appreciate how good some of these players are.
[quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]'If Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?' Very easily actually. This is a football club and a business first and foremost, it isn't a charity as far as I'm aware. Personally I'd put the wishes of 30,000 stakeholders (fans and the club) ahead of the wishes of individuals who signed long term contracts in good faith because, a year ago, they wanted to secure their place in the Premier League with Saints, thus getting the chance to showcase their talents and get in the England squad. Luke is arguable, but the key thing is not to start an exodus and the only way we may be able to do this is by clamping down. People will say contracts aren't worth the paper they are written on, but if that's the case why did we have the likes of Barnard and Forecast on our books sitting around for five seasons? I didn't see them happily agreeing to terminate their deals. No, sorry, unless the money allows us to replace those players with equal quality replacements and money over they can get lost. Luke's case is less clear cut, but if you're telling me we can replace Adam Lallana for less than £20 million (once the Bournemouth money is taken into account) I'd have to argue about that. He's our captain and as our captain he needs to lead by example, accept we need him and get on with it. I just hope any new manager comes in and insists on seeing the players in action before sanctioning any deals, because it's very easy to take the money to bring in your own players if you don't appreciate how good some of these players are. SaintJD
  • Score: 7

2:03pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Peter Godwin says...

Ronald Koeman is definitely the next manager. All the bookies have him at odds on. Next nearest are Dyche and MLaren at 6-10/1.
Bookies never et it that wrong!
Ronald Koeman is definitely the next manager. All the bookies have him at odds on. Next nearest are Dyche and MLaren at 6-10/1. Bookies never et it that wrong! Peter Godwin
  • Score: -1

2:03pm Mon 2 Jun 14

THE12THMAN says...

Toxteth Red wrote:
Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.
Reliable sources down here say if you don't pay 30 million you don't get him. So pay up or shut up.
[quote][p][bold]Toxteth Red[/bold] wrote: Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.[/p][/quote]Reliable sources down here say if you don't pay 30 million you don't get him. So pay up or shut up. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 12

2:04pm Mon 2 Jun 14

StElsass says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you.
Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative.
Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.
On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere.
On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances.
Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here.

And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....
I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion.
My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment.
Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.
So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving?
Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying?
Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you. Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative. Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.[/p][/quote]On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere. On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances. Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here. And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....[/p][/quote]I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion. My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment. Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.[/p][/quote]So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving? Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying? Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players? StElsass
  • Score: 9

2:07pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Peter Godwin says...

P.S. to my previous post: and being Dutch means that Koeman probably speaks better English than most of his players!
P.S. to my previous post: and being Dutch means that Koeman probably speaks better English than most of his players! Peter Godwin
  • Score: 4

2:08pm Mon 2 Jun 14

SaintJD says...

Toxteth Red wrote:
Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.
Reliable sources and Toxteth aren't usually seen in the same sentence so I have my doubts. Anyhow, he can request all he wants - didn't Suarez do something similar last season? He might be doing the same come the end of the World Cup himself so I'd stick to worrying about that if I were you.
[quote][p][bold]Toxteth Red[/bold] wrote: Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.[/p][/quote]Reliable sources and Toxteth aren't usually seen in the same sentence so I have my doubts. Anyhow, he can request all he wants - didn't Suarez do something similar last season? He might be doing the same come the end of the World Cup himself so I'd stick to worrying about that if I were you. SaintJD
  • Score: 9

2:16pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Mosin85 says...

Toxteth Red wrote:
Mosin85 wrote:
Toxteth Red wrote:
Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.
i wouldnt be so sure of that, remind me did Suarez leave last year when he handed in a transfer request no!!!! and spoke on live tv saying he wants out of liverpool? ahh yes i remember. so you liverpool fans have nowt to say. least with Lallana we made him the player he is, Suarez was top quility before you even brought him. their is no reliable source up there seeing as Lallana is a saints player and what the board says goes weather he hands in a request or not. any way go back to yor liverpool echo this is for saints fans not liverpool scum.... orr you could tell us a story about how to lose the premership title with 3 games to go :D go on would love to hear the sotry about how liverpool lost the league with 3 games to go... be an epic story that probs be a best seller.
"weather he hands in a request or not"
Come rain or shine? Ha ha.

The thing with Suarez is that he was made to see that Liverpool were a team looking to improve the next season and were a team on the up.

You have no chance persuading that to Adam when he can see everyone else around him wanting out including the owners.
Dude the fact of the matter is if wanted to by are board we could easy do a " chelsea or manchester city " and dump you 1 more slot down the list of top 10.. if are board want to do it properly and not spend millions and millions on players you think you can come and taunt? if he hands in a request then he will nothing no one can do except do a liverpool and tell him he is not going? after all only one club i've ever heard of a club keeping a player against his will and thats liverpool lost count how many times both luke and Lallana have said they are more than happy staying at saints least Lallana has no publicly stated he WANTS to move unlike some liverpool players.... as for saurez he will be at reall madrid come next season so thats 30 goals and how many assists you got to replace? haha i would worry about ur own club losing its main player after all the best players for saints last year was cork and morgan in the defensive mid role Lallana willl be replaced by Ward prowse or Sims in due time if Lallana leaves' thanks for the 30 million ++ :) if he stays will still be happy so to be honest for us its a win win situation for you liverpool fans your still gonna lose saurez and not make champions league next year.
[quote][p][bold]Toxteth Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mosin85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Toxteth Red[/bold] wrote: Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.[/p][/quote]i wouldnt be so sure of that, remind me did Suarez leave last year when he handed in a transfer request no!!!! and spoke on live tv saying he wants out of liverpool? ahh yes i remember. so you liverpool fans have nowt to say. least with Lallana we made him the player he is, Suarez was top quility before you even brought him. their is no reliable source up there seeing as Lallana is a saints player and what the board says goes weather he hands in a request or not. any way go back to yor liverpool echo this is for saints fans not liverpool scum.... orr you could tell us a story about how to lose the premership title with 3 games to go :D go on would love to hear the sotry about how liverpool lost the league with 3 games to go... be an epic story that probs be a best seller.[/p][/quote]"weather he hands in a request or not" Come rain or shine? Ha ha. The thing with Suarez is that he was made to see that Liverpool were a team looking to improve the next season and were a team on the up. You have no chance persuading that to Adam when he can see everyone else around him wanting out including the owners.[/p][/quote]Dude the fact of the matter is if wanted to by are board we could easy do a " chelsea or manchester city " and dump you 1 more slot down the list of top 10.. if are board want to do it properly and not spend millions and millions on players you think you can come and taunt? if he hands in a request then he will nothing no one can do except do a liverpool and tell him he is not going? after all only one club i've ever heard of a club keeping a player against his will and thats liverpool lost count how many times both luke and Lallana have said they are more than happy staying at saints least Lallana has no publicly stated he WANTS to move unlike some liverpool players.... as for saurez he will be at reall madrid come next season so thats 30 goals and how many assists you got to replace? haha i would worry about ur own club losing its main player after all the best players for saints last year was cork and morgan in the defensive mid role Lallana willl be replaced by Ward prowse or Sims in due time if Lallana leaves' thanks for the 30 million ++ :) if he stays will still be happy so to be honest for us its a win win situation for you liverpool fans your still gonna lose saurez and not make champions league next year. Mosin85
  • Score: 4

2:22pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Toxteth Red says...

Mosin85 wrote:
Toxteth Red wrote:
Mosin85 wrote:
Toxteth Red wrote:
Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.
i wouldnt be so sure of that, remind me did Suarez leave last year when he handed in a transfer request no!!!! and spoke on live tv saying he wants out of liverpool? ahh yes i remember. so you liverpool fans have nowt to say. least with Lallana we made him the player he is, Suarez was top quility before you even brought him. their is no reliable source up there seeing as Lallana is a saints player and what the board says goes weather he hands in a request or not. any way go back to yor liverpool echo this is for saints fans not liverpool scum.... orr you could tell us a story about how to lose the premership title with 3 games to go :D go on would love to hear the sotry about how liverpool lost the league with 3 games to go... be an epic story that probs be a best seller.
"weather he hands in a request or not"
Come rain or shine? Ha ha.

The thing with Suarez is that he was made to see that Liverpool were a team looking to improve the next season and were a team on the up.

You have no chance persuading that to Adam when he can see everyone else around him wanting out including the owners.
Dude the fact of the matter is if wanted to by are board we could easy do a " chelsea or manchester city " and dump you 1 more slot down the list of top 10.. if are board want to do it properly and not spend millions and millions on players you think you can come and taunt? if he hands in a request then he will nothing no one can do except do a liverpool and tell him he is not going? after all only one club i've ever heard of a club keeping a player against his will and thats liverpool lost count how many times both luke and Lallana have said they are more than happy staying at saints least Lallana has no publicly stated he WANTS to move unlike some liverpool players.... as for saurez he will be at reall madrid come next season so thats 30 goals and how many assists you got to replace? haha i would worry about ur own club losing its main player after all the best players for saints last year was cork and morgan in the defensive mid role Lallana willl be replaced by Ward prowse or Sims in due time if Lallana leaves' thanks for the 30 million ++ :) if he stays will still be happy so to be honest for us its a win win situation for you liverpool fans your still gonna lose saurez and not make champions league next year.
Gave up reading half way through, if your going to take the time to write that much you could at least proof read it before posting.
[quote][p][bold]Mosin85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Toxteth Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mosin85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Toxteth Red[/bold] wrote: Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.[/p][/quote]i wouldnt be so sure of that, remind me did Suarez leave last year when he handed in a transfer request no!!!! and spoke on live tv saying he wants out of liverpool? ahh yes i remember. so you liverpool fans have nowt to say. least with Lallana we made him the player he is, Suarez was top quility before you even brought him. their is no reliable source up there seeing as Lallana is a saints player and what the board says goes weather he hands in a request or not. any way go back to yor liverpool echo this is for saints fans not liverpool scum.... orr you could tell us a story about how to lose the premership title with 3 games to go :D go on would love to hear the sotry about how liverpool lost the league with 3 games to go... be an epic story that probs be a best seller.[/p][/quote]"weather he hands in a request or not" Come rain or shine? Ha ha. The thing with Suarez is that he was made to see that Liverpool were a team looking to improve the next season and were a team on the up. You have no chance persuading that to Adam when he can see everyone else around him wanting out including the owners.[/p][/quote]Dude the fact of the matter is if wanted to by are board we could easy do a " chelsea or manchester city " and dump you 1 more slot down the list of top 10.. if are board want to do it properly and not spend millions and millions on players you think you can come and taunt? if he hands in a request then he will nothing no one can do except do a liverpool and tell him he is not going? after all only one club i've ever heard of a club keeping a player against his will and thats liverpool lost count how many times both luke and Lallana have said they are more than happy staying at saints least Lallana has no publicly stated he WANTS to move unlike some liverpool players.... as for saurez he will be at reall madrid come next season so thats 30 goals and how many assists you got to replace? haha i would worry about ur own club losing its main player after all the best players for saints last year was cork and morgan in the defensive mid role Lallana willl be replaced by Ward prowse or Sims in due time if Lallana leaves' thanks for the 30 million ++ :) if he stays will still be happy so to be honest for us its a win win situation for you liverpool fans your still gonna lose saurez and not make champions league next year.[/p][/quote]Gave up reading half way through, if your going to take the time to write that much you could at least proof read it before posting. Toxteth Red
  • Score: -2

2:24pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Toxteth Red wrote:
Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.
But your club said that if it didn't go through before the WC the deal was off. Not liars surely? Not from Merseyside?
[quote][p][bold]Toxteth Red[/bold] wrote: Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.[/p][/quote]But your club said that if it didn't go through before the WC the deal was off. Not liars surely? Not from Merseyside? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 11

2:28pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Outside of the Box says...

I think the statement from Krueger is okay up until he says ''When Rickie Lambert requested to leave for Liverpool, the club felt it could not stand in the way of having him fulfil his boyhood dream of playing at home'' I agree the Club would have been heartless barstewards to turn him down, and I wish him all the luck in the world, However if Luke, Adam or any other player requests to leave it will show that their heads have been turned, IMO, This will leave the Board in a catch22 situation, yes the players have contracts (for what they're worth) and we don't need to sell, but do we want players lining up for Saints who believe the grass is greener somewhere else?

I don't wish to sound negative, just interested in what others think about the statement and possible scenario, I hope all our players wish to stay and take the club forward.
I think the statement from Krueger is okay up until he says ''When Rickie Lambert requested to leave for Liverpool, the club felt it could not stand in the way of having him fulfil his boyhood dream of playing at home'' I agree the Club would have been heartless barstewards to turn him down, and I wish him all the luck in the world, However if Luke, Adam or any other player requests to leave it will show that their heads have been turned, IMO, This will leave the Board in a catch22 situation, yes the players have contracts (for what they're worth) and we don't need to sell, but do we want players lining up for Saints who believe the grass is greener somewhere else? I don't wish to sound negative, just interested in what others think about the statement and possible scenario, I hope all our players wish to stay and take the club forward. Outside of the Box
  • Score: 0

2:39pm Mon 2 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you.
Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative.
Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.
Many thanks for allowing us the right to have our own opinion and assumptions, very magnanimous of you, I don't think it was said that there would be no transfers, what was said was that we didn't have to sell anyone if we didn't want to. RL was an exceptional case, it was a move that benefits all concerned in the long run.

How about a categorical statement, hand on heart from you, saying that you are a genuine Saints supporter and really do have concerns for our future and that is why you feel the need to express these constant negative doubts. You and a few others are going to worry yourselves into an early grave at this rate, ulcers the least likely scenario methinks. You need to take a step back and realise what affect it is having on you, please take care, we are going to need to keep the numbers up, if we are to survive this current rocky passage.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you. Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative. Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.[/p][/quote]Many thanks for allowing us the right to have our own opinion and assumptions, very magnanimous of you, I don't think it was said that there would be no transfers, what was said was that we didn't have to sell anyone if we didn't want to. RL was an exceptional case, it was a move that benefits all concerned in the long run. How about a categorical statement, hand on heart from you, saying that you are a genuine Saints supporter and really do have concerns for our future and that is why you feel the need to express these constant negative doubts. You and a few others are going to worry yourselves into an early grave at this rate, ulcers the least likely scenario methinks. You need to take a step back and realise what affect it is having on you, please take care, we are going to need to keep the numbers up, if we are to survive this current rocky passage. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

3:02pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Mosin85 says...

Toxteth Red wrote:
Mosin85 wrote:
Toxteth Red wrote:
Mosin85 wrote:
Toxteth Red wrote:
Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.
i wouldnt be so sure of that, remind me did Suarez leave last year when he handed in a transfer request no!!!! and spoke on live tv saying he wants out of liverpool? ahh yes i remember. so you liverpool fans have nowt to say. least with Lallana we made him the player he is, Suarez was top quility before you even brought him. their is no reliable source up there seeing as Lallana is a saints player and what the board says goes weather he hands in a request or not. any way go back to yor liverpool echo this is for saints fans not liverpool scum.... orr you could tell us a story about how to lose the premership title with 3 games to go :D go on would love to hear the sotry about how liverpool lost the league with 3 games to go... be an epic story that probs be a best seller.
"weather he hands in a request or not"
Come rain or shine? Ha ha.

The thing with Suarez is that he was made to see that Liverpool were a team looking to improve the next season and were a team on the up.

You have no chance persuading that to Adam when he can see everyone else around him wanting out including the owners.
Dude the fact of the matter is if wanted to by are board we could easy do a " chelsea or manchester city " and dump you 1 more slot down the list of top 10.. if are board want to do it properly and not spend millions and millions on players you think you can come and taunt? if he hands in a request then he will nothing no one can do except do a liverpool and tell him he is not going? after all only one club i've ever heard of a club keeping a player against his will and thats liverpool lost count how many times both luke and Lallana have said they are more than happy staying at saints least Lallana has no publicly stated he WANTS to move unlike some liverpool players.... as for saurez he will be at reall madrid come next season so thats 30 goals and how many assists you got to replace? haha i would worry about ur own club losing its main player after all the best players for saints last year was cork and morgan in the defensive mid role Lallana willl be replaced by Ward prowse or Sims in due time if Lallana leaves' thanks for the 30 million ++ :) if he stays will still be happy so to be honest for us its a win win situation for you liverpool fans your still gonna lose saurez and not make champions league next year.
Gave up reading half way through, if your going to take the time to write that much you could at least proof read it before posting.
i would but im at work so being thorough on a website is not at the top of my do to list at the moment thank you. when i have finished putting my work together for the board meeting i have with my boss before i go on holiday for 2 months i will take a lot more care in what i put just to please you!.

any way given the lack of comment in your reply, it seems you have no grounds to make a counter argument? sorry a couple of truths did i tell? least us Saints fans can hold are heads up high knowing are players dont cheat and cry like the little babies from Liverpool do. Please be care full Lambert, Suarez might bit you!!!!!!!!! :D have a wonderfull day Sir. i will see you around on the forum but at 6 pm im off home to finish packing my bags.
[quote][p][bold]Toxteth Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mosin85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Toxteth Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mosin85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Toxteth Red[/bold] wrote: Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.[/p][/quote]i wouldnt be so sure of that, remind me did Suarez leave last year when he handed in a transfer request no!!!! and spoke on live tv saying he wants out of liverpool? ahh yes i remember. so you liverpool fans have nowt to say. least with Lallana we made him the player he is, Suarez was top quility before you even brought him. their is no reliable source up there seeing as Lallana is a saints player and what the board says goes weather he hands in a request or not. any way go back to yor liverpool echo this is for saints fans not liverpool scum.... orr you could tell us a story about how to lose the premership title with 3 games to go :D go on would love to hear the sotry about how liverpool lost the league with 3 games to go... be an epic story that probs be a best seller.[/p][/quote]"weather he hands in a request or not" Come rain or shine? Ha ha. The thing with Suarez is that he was made to see that Liverpool were a team looking to improve the next season and were a team on the up. You have no chance persuading that to Adam when he can see everyone else around him wanting out including the owners.[/p][/quote]Dude the fact of the matter is if wanted to by are board we could easy do a " chelsea or manchester city " and dump you 1 more slot down the list of top 10.. if are board want to do it properly and not spend millions and millions on players you think you can come and taunt? if he hands in a request then he will nothing no one can do except do a liverpool and tell him he is not going? after all only one club i've ever heard of a club keeping a player against his will and thats liverpool lost count how many times both luke and Lallana have said they are more than happy staying at saints least Lallana has no publicly stated he WANTS to move unlike some liverpool players.... as for saurez he will be at reall madrid come next season so thats 30 goals and how many assists you got to replace? haha i would worry about ur own club losing its main player after all the best players for saints last year was cork and morgan in the defensive mid role Lallana willl be replaced by Ward prowse or Sims in due time if Lallana leaves' thanks for the 30 million ++ :) if he stays will still be happy so to be honest for us its a win win situation for you liverpool fans your still gonna lose saurez and not make champions league next year.[/p][/quote]Gave up reading half way through, if your going to take the time to write that much you could at least proof read it before posting.[/p][/quote]i would but im at work so being thorough on a website is not at the top of my do to list at the moment thank you. when i have finished putting my work together for the board meeting i have with my boss before i go on holiday for 2 months i will take a lot more care in what i put just to please you!. any way given the lack of comment in your reply, it seems you have no grounds to make a counter argument? sorry a couple of truths did i tell? least us Saints fans can hold are heads up high knowing are players dont cheat and cry like the little babies from Liverpool do. Please be care full Lambert, Suarez might bit you!!!!!!!!! :D have a wonderfull day Sir. i will see you around on the forum but at 6 pm im off home to finish packing my bags. Mosin85
  • Score: 1

3:03pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Harold K Steptoe says...

Rejecting offers is easy, different story though when the transfer requests start.
Rejecting offers is easy, different story though when the transfer requests start. Harold K Steptoe
  • Score: 4

3:09pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Alicesdad says...

Toxteth Red wrote:
Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.
"reliable sources up here .... "
Unexpected item in the bagging area !
[quote][p][bold]Toxteth Red[/bold] wrote: Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.[/p][/quote]"reliable sources up here .... " Unexpected item in the bagging area ! Alicesdad
  • Score: 3

3:11pm Mon 2 Jun 14

J7junctionseven says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you.
Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative.
Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.
Many thanks for allowing us the right to have our own opinion and assumptions, very magnanimous of you, I don't think it was said that there would be no transfers, what was said was that we didn't have to sell anyone if we didn't want to. RL was an exceptional case, it was a move that benefits all concerned in the long run.

How about a categorical statement, hand on heart from you, saying that you are a genuine Saints supporter and really do have concerns for our future and that is why you feel the need to express these constant negative doubts. You and a few others are going to worry yourselves into an early grave at this rate, ulcers the least likely scenario methinks. You need to take a step back and realise what affect it is having on you, please take care, we are going to need to keep the numbers up, if we are to survive this current rocky passage.
Oh look Mr Nitpicker's trying to get some attention as usual....zzzzzzz
Boring
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you. Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative. Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.[/p][/quote]Many thanks for allowing us the right to have our own opinion and assumptions, very magnanimous of you, I don't think it was said that there would be no transfers, what was said was that we didn't have to sell anyone if we didn't want to. RL was an exceptional case, it was a move that benefits all concerned in the long run. How about a categorical statement, hand on heart from you, saying that you are a genuine Saints supporter and really do have concerns for our future and that is why you feel the need to express these constant negative doubts. You and a few others are going to worry yourselves into an early grave at this rate, ulcers the least likely scenario methinks. You need to take a step back and realise what affect it is having on you, please take care, we are going to need to keep the numbers up, if we are to survive this current rocky passage.[/p][/quote]Oh look Mr Nitpicker's trying to get some attention as usual....zzzzzzz Boring J7junctionseven
  • Score: -7

3:22pm Mon 2 Jun 14

milton road says...

Well to your sources up there Adam has said recently in public he does not necessarily see his career at Saints as over. There is also talk that if Saints had to sell they would want nearer 36 million giving them 27 mill for the player.
If other clubs don't see him as worth that then that is their problem. Yet the word is both LS and AL are happy to wait until after the world cup and then discuss their futures with the club and new manager before making final decisions.
Rickie was going to be sold in January but with problems in relation to a certain Osvaldo it was put on hold. Also because Cortese left and the board wanted time to sort itself.
Rickie has possibly one good season left and not only emotionally it was the right time to let him go but as long s we get the right replacement. Don't be sure Osvaldo will go, he is out of the world cup and his value is dropping rock bottom, there maybe a second chance for Osvaldo to re-establish himself and his value, time will tell.
Also Lovren is happy to stay at Saints as he publicly qouted a few days ago.
Well to your sources up there Adam has said recently in public he does not necessarily see his career at Saints as over. There is also talk that if Saints had to sell they would want nearer 36 million giving them 27 mill for the player. If other clubs don't see him as worth that then that is their problem. Yet the word is both LS and AL are happy to wait until after the world cup and then discuss their futures with the club and new manager before making final decisions. Rickie was going to be sold in January but with problems in relation to a certain Osvaldo it was put on hold. Also because Cortese left and the board wanted time to sort itself. Rickie has possibly one good season left and not only emotionally it was the right time to let him go but as long s we get the right replacement. Don't be sure Osvaldo will go, he is out of the world cup and his value is dropping rock bottom, there maybe a second chance for Osvaldo to re-establish himself and his value, time will tell. Also Lovren is happy to stay at Saints as he publicly qouted a few days ago. milton road
  • Score: 6

3:23pm Mon 2 Jun 14

J7junctionseven says...

StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you.
Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative.
Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.
On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere.
On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances.
Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here.

And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....
I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion.
My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment.
Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.
So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving?
Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying?
Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?
It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I??
He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place.
Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL.
Crystal?
[quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you. Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative. Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.[/p][/quote]On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere. On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances. Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here. And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....[/p][/quote]I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion. My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment. Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.[/p][/quote]So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving? Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying? Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?[/p][/quote]It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I?? He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place. Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL. Crystal? J7junctionseven
  • Score: -3

3:28pm Mon 2 Jun 14

ctsaint says...

Mosin85 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
i Personaly dont think Lallana will be moving unless the offer is far to good to turn down and the money could be used to buy a replacment so around the 30 - 35 million mark or if Lallana hands in a transfer requests which i just cant see Lallana doing considering how long he has been with us and that if he moves it'll be for a bench spot like Lambert and it'll ruin his England chances if he does so. i think this is a dam good statement saying that the clubs still has amibtion to improve on the final league posistion we achieved last year and that funds are and will be avalible when a new manager comes in. i for one am taking this statment as good news. Good bye Rickie thanks for all the great memorys you are a Legend here wish you luck and report back and let us know how the bench is at liverpool and whats its like swapping first team football for the subs bench and a wage hike
lets not forget that SRL didnt earn big bucks until the past two years, this is his golden ticket and we could and should never have stood in his way - he is a legend.

I agree with Adam and Luke and the England call up has come BECAUSE of the fact their skills have been showcased week in and week out at SFC.......they need to plan their careers and get the timing right.

MOPO also has a career and also needs to make life choices, I cant agree with the one he made or the logic in it. Its the sole reason for my insecuirty around the events unfolding. It is rational to thuink that he invested in NC and was disilusioned by the outcomne in Jan and had long since had his head turned. Its a risk for him to go, a big one, but also a risk for him stay if he felt he had taken SFC as far as he could with what he had been told was on offer.

As a counter thought (glass half full) it may be the board let Mopo go, it may be that just as with NA they new the guy had reached his limit and that what is needed is a guy for the next phase, who has won, who was managed in europe and who attracts the type of players that Everton/Spurs/Liverp
ool all want and need to buy........maybe just maybe, the right manager will be appointed and we will all be pleasantlty suprised....

Either way, we are going to have 3 Lions at the world cup.

COE COYR
[quote][p][bold]Mosin85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]i Personaly dont think Lallana will be moving unless the offer is far to good to turn down and the money could be used to buy a replacment so around the 30 - 35 million mark or if Lallana hands in a transfer requests which i just cant see Lallana doing considering how long he has been with us and that if he moves it'll be for a bench spot like Lambert and it'll ruin his England chances if he does so. i think this is a dam good statement saying that the clubs still has amibtion to improve on the final league posistion we achieved last year and that funds are and will be avalible when a new manager comes in. i for one am taking this statment as good news. Good bye Rickie thanks for all the great memorys you are a Legend here wish you luck and report back and let us know how the bench is at liverpool and whats its like swapping first team football for the subs bench and a wage hike[/p][/quote]lets not forget that SRL didnt earn big bucks until the past two years, this is his golden ticket and we could and should never have stood in his way - he is a legend. I agree with Adam and Luke and the England call up has come BECAUSE of the fact their skills have been showcased week in and week out at SFC.......they need to plan their careers and get the timing right. MOPO also has a career and also needs to make life choices, I cant agree with the one he made or the logic in it. Its the sole reason for my insecuirty around the events unfolding. It is rational to thuink that he invested in NC and was disilusioned by the outcomne in Jan and had long since had his head turned. Its a risk for him to go, a big one, but also a risk for him stay if he felt he had taken SFC as far as he could with what he had been told was on offer. As a counter thought (glass half full) it may be the board let Mopo go, it may be that just as with NA they new the guy had reached his limit and that what is needed is a guy for the next phase, who has won, who was managed in europe and who attracts the type of players that Everton/Spurs/Liverp ool all want and need to buy........maybe just maybe, the right manager will be appointed and we will all be pleasantlty suprised.... Either way, we are going to have 3 Lions at the world cup. COE COYR ctsaint
  • Score: 5

3:47pm Mon 2 Jun 14

StElsass says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you.
Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative.
Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.
On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere.
On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances.
Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here.

And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....
I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion.
My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment.
Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.
So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving?
Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying?
Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?
It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I??
He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place.
Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL.
Crystal?
Oh dear, are we getting a bit tired and short tempered?
Listen pet (since we seem to be in a patronising mood!), it will be much easier for you to get over your anxieties if you did realise that the reason he didn't say "definitely not" or "can promise" is simply because he can't, because he could end up having lied (ironic isn't it?).
What he is saying is that the club will do everything they can to keep hold of their players, but if say AL (or other) requests a transfer and Liverpool (or other) offer us £35m+ then of course they will sell him. Every player has a price, in any club. And before you give me the Suarez example, had Real Madrid come in with an offer of £90m instead of going for Bale last season, he would probably have won the CL last week.
Personally, I would be more concerned if our Chairman came out and told us "definitely" or "can promise"; it would definitely mean he is taking the p**s, I can promise you that...
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you. Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative. Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.[/p][/quote]On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere. On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances. Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here. And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....[/p][/quote]I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion. My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment. Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.[/p][/quote]So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving? Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying? Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?[/p][/quote]It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I?? He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place. Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL. Crystal?[/p][/quote]Oh dear, are we getting a bit tired and short tempered? Listen pet (since we seem to be in a patronising mood!), it will be much easier for you to get over your anxieties if you did realise that the reason he didn't say "definitely not" or "can promise" is simply because he can't, because he could end up having lied (ironic isn't it?). What he is saying is that the club will do everything they can to keep hold of their players, but if say AL (or other) requests a transfer and Liverpool (or other) offer us £35m+ then of course they will sell him. Every player has a price, in any club. And before you give me the Suarez example, had Real Madrid come in with an offer of £90m instead of going for Bale last season, he would probably have won the CL last week. Personally, I would be more concerned if our Chairman came out and told us "definitely" or "can promise"; it would definitely mean he is taking the p**s, I can promise you that... StElsass
  • Score: 10

3:50pm Mon 2 Jun 14

SaintJD says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Yes it ALL makes perfect sense.

OFFLOAD a proven Double Figure Scoring Player (for sentimental reasons) for 4 million on £35,000 a week for another Player who does not have the prestige of playing for ENGLAND for a whole load more money.

Player A had a perfect Peanlty Taking record - an asset in the Dressing Room and provided assists as well as goals.

Player B - is unproven.

YES - Good Business and Good Decision Making - it all becomes crystal clear.
Surprised by the amount of thumbs down on this one. Of course you are completely correct. To be honest I think the board realise this was anything but good business, but they felt he deserved it for his loyal service.

From a business point of view £5 million is pointless for Rickie Lambert - just look at the money and wages you can waste on getting a reliable finisher in the Premier League - Osvaldo, Lee and Mayuka are a case in point and Barnard and Sharp were sat on our books wasting money for several seasons. All this makes a loss of £5 million seem irrelevant for a player of Rickie's class and influence (and a current England international).

Nice sentiment from the board, but if they repeat it with others I'll have zero sympathy.
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: Yes it ALL makes perfect sense. OFFLOAD a proven Double Figure Scoring Player (for sentimental reasons) for 4 million on £35,000 a week for another Player who does not have the prestige of playing for ENGLAND for a whole load more money. Player A had a perfect Peanlty Taking record - an asset in the Dressing Room and provided assists as well as goals. Player B - is unproven. YES - Good Business and Good Decision Making - it all becomes crystal clear.[/p][/quote]Surprised by the amount of thumbs down on this one. Of course you are completely correct. To be honest I think the board realise this was anything but good business, but they felt he deserved it for his loyal service. From a business point of view £5 million is pointless for Rickie Lambert - just look at the money and wages you can waste on getting a reliable finisher in the Premier League - Osvaldo, Lee and Mayuka are a case in point and Barnard and Sharp were sat on our books wasting money for several seasons. All this makes a loss of £5 million seem irrelevant for a player of Rickie's class and influence (and a current England international). Nice sentiment from the board, but if they repeat it with others I'll have zero sympathy. SaintJD
  • Score: 3

3:51pm Mon 2 Jun 14

saintbobby says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Toxteth Red wrote:
Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.
But your club said that if it didn't go through before the WC the deal was off. Not liars surely? Not from Merseyside?
Very sharp, Seedhouse. Spot on. Are you from Scotland Yard?

It was a really soppy thing for them to say. More or less would have made up the Board's mind.

We could always pay our guys a bit more to help keep their Bank happy.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Toxteth Red[/bold] wrote: Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.[/p][/quote]But your club said that if it didn't go through before the WC the deal was off. Not liars surely? Not from Merseyside?[/p][/quote]Very sharp, Seedhouse. Spot on. Are you from Scotland Yard? It was a really soppy thing for them to say. More or less would have made up the Board's mind. We could always pay our guys a bit more to help keep their Bank happy. saintbobby
  • Score: 3

4:10pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Poole Tom says...

Like everyone else I am disappointed to see Rickie go. However I would like to thank him for his magnificent contribution to our club over the last five years and wish him all the best for the future, except of course when he plays against us.
If the new manager really is going to have £50 million to spend on new players, plus whatever else we may obtain during the course of this transfer window then we really must be a very attractive proposition to all but the very elite managers that are out there. The board therefore need to select the new manager very wisely because as always this is the key decision. Hopefully they will opt for a very good experienced manager who will play entertaining attacking football. Ronald Koeman may well fit the bill but that is for others to decide. Either way providing it is someone of his caliber then there is every reason for us fans to be optimistic about the forthcoming season rather than pessimistic as is currently the case while we see old favourites leave. However that will soon change when we start to sign quality replacements. Onwards and upwards.
Like everyone else I am disappointed to see Rickie go. However I would like to thank him for his magnificent contribution to our club over the last five years and wish him all the best for the future, except of course when he plays against us. If the new manager really is going to have £50 million to spend on new players, plus whatever else we may obtain during the course of this transfer window then we really must be a very attractive proposition to all but the very elite managers that are out there. The board therefore need to select the new manager very wisely because as always this is the key decision. Hopefully they will opt for a very good experienced manager who will play entertaining attacking football. Ronald Koeman may well fit the bill but that is for others to decide. Either way providing it is someone of his caliber then there is every reason for us fans to be optimistic about the forthcoming season rather than pessimistic as is currently the case while we see old favourites leave. However that will soon change when we start to sign quality replacements. Onwards and upwards. Poole Tom
  • Score: 7

4:19pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Costa Baz says...

Toxteth Red wrote:
Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.
You only want Lallana, because of the way he spells his name. A A A. Calm down Toxic, and tell Brendan to get his passport out.
[quote][p][bold]Toxteth Red[/bold] wrote: Reliable sources up here say that if you don't accept our offer lallana put in a transfer request on his return from the World Cup. The good news for you is we aren't going to push the Lovren deal too much, if you don't accept then we have targets abroad.[/p][/quote]You only want Lallana, because of the way he spells his name. A A A. Calm down Toxic, and tell Brendan to get his passport out. Costa Baz
  • Score: 2

4:23pm Mon 2 Jun 14

J7junctionseven says...

StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you.
Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative.
Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.
On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere.
On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances.
Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here.

And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....
I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion.
My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment.
Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.
So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving?
Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying?
Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?
It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I??
He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place.
Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL.
Crystal?
Oh dear, are we getting a bit tired and short tempered?
Listen pet (since we seem to be in a patronising mood!), it will be much easier for you to get over your anxieties if you did realise that the reason he didn't say "definitely not" or "can promise" is simply because he can't, because he could end up having lied (ironic isn't it?).
What he is saying is that the club will do everything they can to keep hold of their players, but if say AL (or other) requests a transfer and Liverpool (or other) offer us £35m+ then of course they will sell him. Every player has a price, in any club. And before you give me the Suarez example, had Real Madrid come in with an offer of £90m instead of going for Bale last season, he would probably have won the CL last week.
Personally, I would be more concerned if our Chairman came out and told us "definitely" or "can promise"; it would definitely mean he is taking the p**s, I can promise you that...
Not tired. Not short tempered. Just trying clarify my opinion to those who don't agree by the looks of it..."Pet"?
[quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you. Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative. Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.[/p][/quote]On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere. On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances. Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here. And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....[/p][/quote]I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion. My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment. Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.[/p][/quote]So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving? Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying? Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?[/p][/quote]It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I?? He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place. Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL. Crystal?[/p][/quote]Oh dear, are we getting a bit tired and short tempered? Listen pet (since we seem to be in a patronising mood!), it will be much easier for you to get over your anxieties if you did realise that the reason he didn't say "definitely not" or "can promise" is simply because he can't, because he could end up having lied (ironic isn't it?). What he is saying is that the club will do everything they can to keep hold of their players, but if say AL (or other) requests a transfer and Liverpool (or other) offer us £35m+ then of course they will sell him. Every player has a price, in any club. And before you give me the Suarez example, had Real Madrid come in with an offer of £90m instead of going for Bale last season, he would probably have won the CL last week. Personally, I would be more concerned if our Chairman came out and told us "definitely" or "can promise"; it would definitely mean he is taking the p**s, I can promise you that...[/p][/quote]Not tired. Not short tempered. Just trying clarify my opinion to those who don't agree by the looks of it..."Pet"? J7junctionseven
  • Score: -7

4:57pm Mon 2 Jun 14

deepheat says...

The board is having a tough time at the moment.
If they buy players in now or make a bid to replace potentially out going players other clubs will expect to get our star players on the cheap. If they sell too many it may put off good managers wanting to come to the club who may want to keep them. The truth is there really aren't many good managers out there just ask Cardiff, Fulham, West Ham, Newcastle, Norwich and Aston Villa just for starters. If we can get the right manager and coaching staff then plenty of good name footballers will want to come and play for Southampton Football Club. Time to get excited and support the board in trying to do the right thing and get us the best Manager they can. It's not going to be easy.
The board is having a tough time at the moment. If they buy players in now or make a bid to replace potentially out going players other clubs will expect to get our star players on the cheap. If they sell too many it may put off good managers wanting to come to the club who may want to keep them. The truth is there really aren't many good managers out there just ask Cardiff, Fulham, West Ham, Newcastle, Norwich and Aston Villa just for starters. If we can get the right manager and coaching staff then plenty of good name footballers will want to come and play for Southampton Football Club. Time to get excited and support the board in trying to do the right thing and get us the best Manager they can. It's not going to be easy. deepheat
  • Score: 11

5:03pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Jan28th1984 says...

Good words, Ralph - that's more like it.
Good words, Ralph - that's more like it. Jan28th1984
  • Score: 6

5:04pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Alicesdad says...

I know what's going on !
Do you want me to tell you what's happening?
I know what's going on ! Do you want me to tell you what's happening? Alicesdad
  • Score: -2

5:04pm Mon 2 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you.
Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative.
Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.
On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere.
On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances.
Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here.

And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....
I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion.
My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment.
Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.
So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving?
Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying?
Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?
It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I??
He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place.
Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL.
Crystal?
Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you. Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative. Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.[/p][/quote]On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere. On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances. Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here. And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....[/p][/quote]I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion. My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment. Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.[/p][/quote]So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving? Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying? Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?[/p][/quote]It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I?? He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place. Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL. Crystal?[/p][/quote]Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 6

5:07pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Clever Dick says...

SaintJD wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Yes it ALL makes perfect sense.

OFFLOAD a proven Double Figure Scoring Player (for sentimental reasons) for 4 million on £35,000 a week for another Player who does not have the prestige of playing for ENGLAND for a whole load more money.

Player A had a perfect Peanlty Taking record - an asset in the Dressing Room and provided assists as well as goals.

Player B - is unproven.

YES - Good Business and Good Decision Making - it all becomes crystal clear.
Surprised by the amount of thumbs down on this one. Of course you are completely correct. To be honest I think the board realise this was anything but good business, but they felt he deserved it for his loyal service.

From a business point of view £5 million is pointless for Rickie Lambert - just look at the money and wages you can waste on getting a reliable finisher in the Premier League - Osvaldo, Lee and Mayuka are a case in point and Barnard and Sharp were sat on our books wasting money for several seasons. All this makes a loss of £5 million seem irrelevant for a player of Rickie's class and influence (and a current England international).

Nice sentiment from the board, but if they repeat it with others I'll have zero sympathy.
It's also quite possible that MoPo and the board decided last season that if a decent offer came in for Rickie that they would take it. With regard to Billy Sharp he was brought in to help us secure promotion to the Prem, which his goals helped us to do. I think £15k a week wages to help us secure £80million per season extra income wold be regarded by some as a pretty decent deal.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: Yes it ALL makes perfect sense. OFFLOAD a proven Double Figure Scoring Player (for sentimental reasons) for 4 million on £35,000 a week for another Player who does not have the prestige of playing for ENGLAND for a whole load more money. Player A had a perfect Peanlty Taking record - an asset in the Dressing Room and provided assists as well as goals. Player B - is unproven. YES - Good Business and Good Decision Making - it all becomes crystal clear.[/p][/quote]Surprised by the amount of thumbs down on this one. Of course you are completely correct. To be honest I think the board realise this was anything but good business, but they felt he deserved it for his loyal service. From a business point of view £5 million is pointless for Rickie Lambert - just look at the money and wages you can waste on getting a reliable finisher in the Premier League - Osvaldo, Lee and Mayuka are a case in point and Barnard and Sharp were sat on our books wasting money for several seasons. All this makes a loss of £5 million seem irrelevant for a player of Rickie's class and influence (and a current England international). Nice sentiment from the board, but if they repeat it with others I'll have zero sympathy.[/p][/quote]It's also quite possible that MoPo and the board decided last season that if a decent offer came in for Rickie that they would take it. With regard to Billy Sharp he was brought in to help us secure promotion to the Prem, which his goals helped us to do. I think £15k a week wages to help us secure £80million per season extra income wold be regarded by some as a pretty decent deal. Clever Dick
  • Score: 0

5:08pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Sainty saint saint says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you.
Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative.
Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.
Many thanks for allowing us the right to have our own opinion and assumptions, very magnanimous of you, I don't think it was said that there would be no transfers, what was said was that we didn't have to sell anyone if we didn't want to. RL was an exceptional case, it was a move that benefits all concerned in the long run.

How about a categorical statement, hand on heart from you, saying that you are a genuine Saints supporter and really do have concerns for our future and that is why you feel the need to express these constant negative doubts. You and a few others are going to worry yourselves into an early grave at this rate, ulcers the least likely scenario methinks. You need to take a step back and realise what affect it is having on you, please take care, we are going to need to keep the numbers up, if we are to survive this current rocky passage.
Oh look Mr Nitpicker's trying to get some attention as usual....zzzzzzz
Boring
I'm sure I'm not the only one getting a bit bored of your defensiveness - can't you just chill out a bit and have a civil conversation without resorting to playground stuff as soon as someone questions you?

Everything's getting a bit fractious on here and I think people need to take a step back and realise we all (for the most part) want the best for the club, so let's not get all uppety as soon as someone has a different opinion.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you. Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative. Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.[/p][/quote]Many thanks for allowing us the right to have our own opinion and assumptions, very magnanimous of you, I don't think it was said that there would be no transfers, what was said was that we didn't have to sell anyone if we didn't want to. RL was an exceptional case, it was a move that benefits all concerned in the long run. How about a categorical statement, hand on heart from you, saying that you are a genuine Saints supporter and really do have concerns for our future and that is why you feel the need to express these constant negative doubts. You and a few others are going to worry yourselves into an early grave at this rate, ulcers the least likely scenario methinks. You need to take a step back and realise what affect it is having on you, please take care, we are going to need to keep the numbers up, if we are to survive this current rocky passage.[/p][/quote]Oh look Mr Nitpicker's trying to get some attention as usual....zzzzzzz Boring[/p][/quote]I'm sure I'm not the only one getting a bit bored of your defensiveness - can't you just chill out a bit and have a civil conversation without resorting to playground stuff as soon as someone questions you? Everything's getting a bit fractious on here and I think people need to take a step back and realise we all (for the most part) want the best for the club, so let's not get all uppety as soon as someone has a different opinion. Sainty saint saint
  • Score: 6

5:10pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Clever Dick says...

Alicesdad wrote:
I know what's going on !
Do you want me to tell you what's happening?
I don't know. Are you sure that you know cos there is a rumour that on very rare occasions you don't actually know at all. FACT!
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: I know what's going on ! Do you want me to tell you what's happening?[/p][/quote]I don't know. Are you sure that you know cos there is a rumour that on very rare occasions you don't actually know at all. FACT! Clever Dick
  • Score: 2

5:16pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Mosin85 says...

Alicesdad wrote:
I know what's going on !
Do you want me to tell you what's happening?
i know i know, KL just donated 2.2billion to the club so it can buy every thing like chelsea and manchester city...............

but back to reality.. nothing is going on, Saints board are still looking for a manager and said they will let us know who it is 2 months after the manager has been appointed!!!

P.S Lambert has been bitted by suarez!!! bloody mosquitoes..
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: I know what's going on ! Do you want me to tell you what's happening?[/p][/quote]i know i know, KL just donated 2.2billion to the club so it can buy every thing like chelsea and manchester city............... but back to reality.. nothing is going on, Saints board are still looking for a manager and said they will let us know who it is 2 months after the manager has been appointed!!! P.S Lambert has been bitted by suarez!!! bloody mosquitoes.. Mosin85
  • Score: 0

5:17pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Mosin85 says...

Mosin85 wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
I know what's going on !
Do you want me to tell you what's happening?
i know i know, KL just donated 2.2billion to the club so it can buy every thing like chelsea and manchester city...............

but back to reality.. nothing is going on, Saints board are still looking for a manager and said they will let us know who it is 2 months after the manager has been appointed!!!

P.S Lambert has been bitted by suarez!!! bloody mosquitoes..
ment bitten. sorry rushing, work annoying me with silly things to do before i go on holiday :(
[quote][p][bold]Mosin85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: I know what's going on ! Do you want me to tell you what's happening?[/p][/quote]i know i know, KL just donated 2.2billion to the club so it can buy every thing like chelsea and manchester city............... but back to reality.. nothing is going on, Saints board are still looking for a manager and said they will let us know who it is 2 months after the manager has been appointed!!! P.S Lambert has been bitted by suarez!!! bloody mosquitoes..[/p][/quote]ment bitten. sorry rushing, work annoying me with silly things to do before i go on holiday :( Mosin85
  • Score: 0

5:36pm Mon 2 Jun 14

jls217 says...

Roy Keane turns down chance of Celtic job - Just saying............

Too aggressive and caustic for my taste but others may fancy him and what he can offer.
Roy Keane turns down chance of Celtic job - Just saying............ Too aggressive and caustic for my taste but others may fancy him and what he can offer. jls217
  • Score: 4

5:50pm Mon 2 Jun 14

upwherewebelong says...

isolated saint wrote:
BBC sports news is reporting that the new manager will have £50m to spend now without any sales money. RK is quoted as saying they are drawing up a list to interview shortly.
Sadly i'm not convinced I can believe anything RK says. Basically I am worried that in what has been said they are waiting for the new manager to sign then will sell AL and LS and blame the new manager by saying something like "the new manager sanctioned the deals" Now for a bit of balance I accept that some of my problem is we'd not sold anyone the fans wanted to keep since Chamberlain so we aren't used to this sort of summer. However, I don't believe this board have yet EARNED our trust and as such ANYTHING they say should be taken with a massive pinch of salt. This is just my opinion but I am concerned as look at the contrast NA sacked and replaced with MP THE SAME DAY under Cortese's leadership. Under Rk's board MP leaves and SIX days later we're still waiting bit of a contrast I feel.
[quote][p][bold]isolated saint[/bold] wrote: BBC sports news is reporting that the new manager will have £50m to spend now without any sales money. RK is quoted as saying they are drawing up a list to interview shortly.[/p][/quote]Sadly i'm not convinced I can believe anything RK says. Basically I am worried that in what has been said they are waiting for the new manager to sign then will sell AL and LS and blame the new manager by saying something like "the new manager sanctioned the deals" Now for a bit of balance I accept that some of my problem is we'd not sold anyone the fans wanted to keep since Chamberlain so we aren't used to this sort of summer. However, I don't believe this board have yet EARNED our trust and as such ANYTHING they say should be taken with a massive pinch of salt. This is just my opinion but I am concerned as look at the contrast NA sacked and replaced with MP THE SAME DAY under Cortese's leadership. Under Rk's board MP leaves and SIX days later we're still waiting bit of a contrast I feel. upwherewebelong
  • Score: -3

5:59pm Mon 2 Jun 14

randre says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Yes it ALL makes perfect sense.

OFFLOAD a proven Double Figure Scoring Player (for sentimental reasons) for 4 million on £35,000 a week for another Player who does not have the prestige of playing for ENGLAND for a whole load more money.

Player A had a perfect Peanlty Taking record - an asset in the Dressing Room and provided assists as well as goals.

Player B - is unproven.

YES - Good Business and Good Decision Making - it all becomes crystal clear.
So you think Saints should have stood in the way of Rickie final career move. Sorry but I believe the club have done the correct thing. As much as I will miss Rickie... Always a Saint
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: Yes it ALL makes perfect sense. OFFLOAD a proven Double Figure Scoring Player (for sentimental reasons) for 4 million on £35,000 a week for another Player who does not have the prestige of playing for ENGLAND for a whole load more money. Player A had a perfect Peanlty Taking record - an asset in the Dressing Room and provided assists as well as goals. Player B - is unproven. YES - Good Business and Good Decision Making - it all becomes crystal clear.[/p][/quote]So you think Saints should have stood in the way of Rickie final career move. Sorry but I believe the club have done the correct thing. As much as I will miss Rickie... Always a Saint randre
  • Score: 5

6:02pm Mon 2 Jun 14

wrypop says...

I see good news ahead! Paddy Power have Ronald Koeman at odds on for our next Manager, and for the Celtic job they have Pope Francis at 1500/1

Surely the dream team is for the Pope to assist Koeman and then it really would time for some Hail St Mary's? Sorry but its hot here in Spain..
I see good news ahead! Paddy Power have Ronald Koeman at odds on for our next Manager, and for the Celtic job they have Pope Francis at 1500/1 Surely the dream team is for the Pope to assist Koeman and then it really would time for some Hail St Mary's? Sorry but its hot here in Spain.. wrypop
  • Score: 2

6:18pm Mon 2 Jun 14

guernseysaint says...

randre wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Yes it ALL makes perfect sense.

OFFLOAD a proven Double Figure Scoring Player (for sentimental reasons) for 4 million on £35,000 a week for another Player who does not have the prestige of playing for ENGLAND for a whole load more money.

Player A had a perfect Peanlty Taking record - an asset in the Dressing Room and provided assists as well as goals.

Player B - is unproven.

YES - Good Business and Good Decision Making - it all becomes crystal clear.
So you think Saints should have stood in the way of Rickie final career move. Sorry but I believe the club have done the correct thing. As much as I will miss Rickie... Always a Saint
I agree - I also think it is probable that Lallana and Shaw may well be trying to get hold of RK right now to say they want to leave too. Until Saints can compete with £100,000 a week and the promise of Champions League football, it is always going to be a struggle to make them stay (not that Shaw would be having CL football next season). I think RK is doing all he can by holding off for an ambition manager who could maybe help them to change their minds. Good luck Rickie. I just hope you manage to get off the bench to enjoy the next few seasons with Liverpool. You have served the saints well over the last few years and we wish you well.
[quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: Yes it ALL makes perfect sense. OFFLOAD a proven Double Figure Scoring Player (for sentimental reasons) for 4 million on £35,000 a week for another Player who does not have the prestige of playing for ENGLAND for a whole load more money. Player A had a perfect Peanlty Taking record - an asset in the Dressing Room and provided assists as well as goals. Player B - is unproven. YES - Good Business and Good Decision Making - it all becomes crystal clear.[/p][/quote]So you think Saints should have stood in the way of Rickie final career move. Sorry but I believe the club have done the correct thing. As much as I will miss Rickie... Always a Saint[/p][/quote]I agree - I also think it is probable that Lallana and Shaw may well be trying to get hold of RK right now to say they want to leave too. Until Saints can compete with £100,000 a week and the promise of Champions League football, it is always going to be a struggle to make them stay (not that Shaw would be having CL football next season). I think RK is doing all he can by holding off for an ambition manager who could maybe help them to change their minds. Good luck Rickie. I just hope you manage to get off the bench to enjoy the next few seasons with Liverpool. You have served the saints well over the last few years and we wish you well. guernseysaint
  • Score: 3

6:32pm Mon 2 Jun 14

thinklikealocal says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you.
Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative.
Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.
Many thanks for allowing us the right to have our own opinion and assumptions, very magnanimous of you, I don't think it was said that there would be no transfers, what was said was that we didn't have to sell anyone if we didn't want to. RL was an exceptional case, it was a move that benefits all concerned in the long run.

How about a categorical statement, hand on heart from you, saying that you are a genuine Saints supporter and really do have concerns for our future and that is why you feel the need to express these constant negative doubts. You and a few others are going to worry yourselves into an early grave at this rate, ulcers the least likely scenario methinks. You need to take a step back and realise what affect it is having on you, please take care, we are going to need to keep the numbers up, if we are to survive this current rocky passage.
Oh look Mr Nitpicker's trying to get some attention as usual....zzzzzzz
Boring
I'm sure I'm not the only one getting a bit bored of your defensiveness - can't you just chill out a bit and have a civil conversation without resorting to playground stuff as soon as someone questions you?

Everything's getting a bit fractious on here and I think people need to take a step back and realise we all (for the most part) want the best for the club, so let's not get all uppety as soon as someone has a different opinion.
Don't waste your time on a prat.
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you. Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative. Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.[/p][/quote]Many thanks for allowing us the right to have our own opinion and assumptions, very magnanimous of you, I don't think it was said that there would be no transfers, what was said was that we didn't have to sell anyone if we didn't want to. RL was an exceptional case, it was a move that benefits all concerned in the long run. How about a categorical statement, hand on heart from you, saying that you are a genuine Saints supporter and really do have concerns for our future and that is why you feel the need to express these constant negative doubts. You and a few others are going to worry yourselves into an early grave at this rate, ulcers the least likely scenario methinks. You need to take a step back and realise what affect it is having on you, please take care, we are going to need to keep the numbers up, if we are to survive this current rocky passage.[/p][/quote]Oh look Mr Nitpicker's trying to get some attention as usual....zzzzzzz Boring[/p][/quote]I'm sure I'm not the only one getting a bit bored of your defensiveness - can't you just chill out a bit and have a civil conversation without resorting to playground stuff as soon as someone questions you? Everything's getting a bit fractious on here and I think people need to take a step back and realise we all (for the most part) want the best for the club, so let's not get all uppety as soon as someone has a different opinion.[/p][/quote]Don't waste your time on a prat. thinklikealocal
  • Score: 6

6:33pm Mon 2 Jun 14

stfrancisofbenali says...

It appears that the board have sensibly drawn a line in the sand and said no more transfer dealings until the new manager is in place. If we look at the facts, Rickie has gone in a move that none of us would have begrudged him and now the board have said nothing will be decided until the new man is appointed. Well done board and stop panicking everyone.
It appears that the board have sensibly drawn a line in the sand and said no more transfer dealings until the new manager is in place. If we look at the facts, Rickie has gone in a move that none of us would have begrudged him and now the board have said nothing will be decided until the new man is appointed. Well done board and stop panicking everyone. stfrancisofbenali
  • Score: 10

6:57pm Mon 2 Jun 14

upwherewebelong says...

stfrancisofbenali wrote:
It appears that the board have sensibly drawn a line in the sand and said no more transfer dealings until the new manager is in place. If we look at the facts, Rickie has gone in a move that none of us would have begrudged him and now the board have said nothing will be decided until the new man is appointed. Well done board and stop panicking everyone.
I still don't understand why people are saying chill out and relax and being so calm over the dismantling of our club. Krueger is IN MY OPINION in this to destroy the club he's not actually saying he and the board won't sell anyone else he's just realised if they sell anyone else so close to losing MP and RL there would justifiably be uproar. My issue is he feels NOTHING for the club or it's heritage. Yes he can spout rhetoric and is reasonably adept at propaganda but when it comes to PROOVING he actually cares about the fans our SFC where is the evidence that backs it. I never really believed i'd say this but I am beginning to ACTUALLY believe the time has come for new owners. Cortese please, please please come back you may have had faults and got some things wrong but this situation would never have happened under your watch. Bring on the thumbs down but please note I and my views are not validated over whether the other fans that care about the club support my thoughts. We all want whats best for SFC we just have very different views over how that is obtained. My view is the removal of the current board your's maybe we trust the board and well done for keeping the faith but all I ask is respect each others opinions.
[quote][p][bold]stfrancisofbenali[/bold] wrote: It appears that the board have sensibly drawn a line in the sand and said no more transfer dealings until the new manager is in place. If we look at the facts, Rickie has gone in a move that none of us would have begrudged him and now the board have said nothing will be decided until the new man is appointed. Well done board and stop panicking everyone.[/p][/quote]I still don't understand why people are saying chill out and relax and being so calm over the dismantling of our club. Krueger is IN MY OPINION in this to destroy the club he's not actually saying he and the board won't sell anyone else he's just realised if they sell anyone else so close to losing MP and RL there would justifiably be uproar. My issue is he feels NOTHING for the club or it's heritage. Yes he can spout rhetoric and is reasonably adept at propaganda but when it comes to PROOVING he actually cares about the fans our SFC where is the evidence that backs it. I never really believed i'd say this but I am beginning to ACTUALLY believe the time has come for new owners. Cortese please, please please come back you may have had faults and got some things wrong but this situation would never have happened under your watch. Bring on the thumbs down but please note I and my views are not validated over whether the other fans that care about the club support my thoughts. We all want whats best for SFC we just have very different views over how that is obtained. My view is the removal of the current board your's maybe we trust the board and well done for keeping the faith but all I ask is respect each others opinions. upwherewebelong
  • Score: -4

7:11pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Clever Dick says...

wrypop wrote:
I see good news ahead! Paddy Power have Ronald Koeman at odds on for our next Manager, and for the Celtic job they have Pope Francis at 1500/1

Surely the dream team is for the Pope to assist Koeman and then it really would time for some Hail St Mary's? Sorry but its hot here in Spain..
Let's face it even the Pope could get that lot to win the one club league up in Scotland. It would be quite amusing watching him sprint onto the pitch and give the ref a load of verbals though.
[quote][p][bold]wrypop[/bold] wrote: I see good news ahead! Paddy Power have Ronald Koeman at odds on for our next Manager, and for the Celtic job they have Pope Francis at 1500/1 Surely the dream team is for the Pope to assist Koeman and then it really would time for some Hail St Mary's? Sorry but its hot here in Spain..[/p][/quote]Let's face it even the Pope could get that lot to win the one club league up in Scotland. It would be quite amusing watching him sprint onto the pitch and give the ref a load of verbals though. Clever Dick
  • Score: 2

7:34pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Steve_N says...

This is indeed a medium for all Saints fans to air their opinions and everybody has the right to do so. My own view is that, we have no option but to wait and see how all this pans out - nothing we can do to change what has or what will happen. Stating the bleedin' obvious innit?
I will say it's a shame Rickie has gone and I can understand both sides of the argument presented. On the face of it, RK's words may seem a little hollow, but I feel it would have been churlish, to say the least, to deny SRL this opportunity, once he was aware of Liverpuddle's interest.
I am with the chill out, wait and see brigade.
This is indeed a medium for all Saints fans to air their opinions and everybody has the right to do so. My own view is that, we have no option but to wait and see how all this pans out - nothing we can do to change what has or what will happen. Stating the bleedin' obvious innit? I will say it's a shame Rickie has gone and I can understand both sides of the argument presented. On the face of it, RK's words may seem a little hollow, but I feel it would have been churlish, to say the least, to deny SRL this opportunity, once he was aware of Liverpuddle's interest. I am with the chill out, wait and see brigade. Steve_N
  • Score: 2

7:43pm Mon 2 Jun 14

el caballo santos101 says...

upwherewebelong wrote:
stfrancisofbenali wrote:
It appears that the board have sensibly drawn a line in the sand and said no more transfer dealings until the new manager is in place. If we look at the facts, Rickie has gone in a move that none of us would have begrudged him and now the board have said nothing will be decided until the new man is appointed. Well done board and stop panicking everyone.
I still don't understand why people are saying chill out and relax and being so calm over the dismantling of our club. Krueger is IN MY OPINION in this to destroy the club he's not actually saying he and the board won't sell anyone else he's just realised if they sell anyone else so close to losing MP and RL there would justifiably be uproar. My issue is he feels NOTHING for the club or it's heritage. Yes he can spout rhetoric and is reasonably adept at propaganda but when it comes to PROOVING he actually cares about the fans our SFC where is the evidence that backs it. I never really believed i'd say this but I am beginning to ACTUALLY believe the time has come for new owners. Cortese please, please please come back you may have had faults and got some things wrong but this situation would never have happened under your watch. Bring on the thumbs down but please note I and my views are not validated over whether the other fans that care about the club support my thoughts. We all want whats best for SFC we just have very different views over how that is obtained. My view is the removal of the current board your's maybe we trust the board and well done for keeping the faith but all I ask is respect each others opinions.
you are of course entitled to your views and opinions and have put quite eloquently and without the abuse that some on here feel necessary.
you will of course note, if you have read these threads, realise that I disagree with you, and I would like to counter your points, I will also do this with any abuse or malice.
people are saying `chill out` and `relax` because what is there currently to get overly concerned about, there is no evidence of the `dismantling of the club. we have had a manager leave who was always going to, even though the board tried to keep him by offering a better contract than spuds. there was nothing the board could have done to keep him, he played us!
we have also sold a striker who is getting on a bit. as much as I love SRL the move was best for him and the club.
Ralph cant say the club isn't going to sell, although he`s done the next best thing. if diverpool came in with an offer of £40mill for lalla it would be very hard for any board to turn it down.
if he was here to dismantle the club and `asset strip` then the bids of £25mill for lalla and £27mill for luke would have been accepted already, a multi-billionaire isn't going to bother haggling over £3-£5mill. why would they worry about any `uproar` from the fans. if they were just after the money they would sell the players whether the fans liked it or not.
Ralph is very good at talking, its his job after all, and yes rhetoric is rhetoric but he has backed his words with actions. if he wasn't here for long why did he bother doing the bike ride with the foundation? he has also turned down bids for players, which is what he said he would do.
so far they have done ok, yes MP is gone and yes they sold SRL but you cant really blame them for those.
as fr NC and new owners, be careful what you wish for. think about hull or Cardiff and the troubles they are having with their owners. NC wasn't the great god that he has been portrayed as. yes he`s done wonders for the club but he also caused a lot of hassle, no photographers in sms unless they pay. being taken to court twice and overspending.
this would never of happened under NC? he wanted to sack MP in December but was convinced not to by the players, he was selling SRL to Hoof until Osvaldo went loopy, so no it wouldn't have happened now as it already would have. as for the bids for our players, do you honestly think that diverpool and manure wouldn't have bid for our players if NC was in charge? of course they would, and they would have ben given the same answer as Ralph has given them, NO.
if there was a billionaire out there who had genuine love for the club why didn't they come forward when we were in trouble? instead ML came forward and it was clear to see he loved the club, maybe that's rubbed off on KL, there were stories in the press when NC left that she had no love for football, how do the press know that about a very private lady when their not sure of her age or family?
as I say I respect your views and have just tried to counter them with my views and opinions. if im wrong then so be it we are in trouble, however if im right then the club can progress in the manner we all want.
[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stfrancisofbenali[/bold] wrote: It appears that the board have sensibly drawn a line in the sand and said no more transfer dealings until the new manager is in place. If we look at the facts, Rickie has gone in a move that none of us would have begrudged him and now the board have said nothing will be decided until the new man is appointed. Well done board and stop panicking everyone.[/p][/quote]I still don't understand why people are saying chill out and relax and being so calm over the dismantling of our club. Krueger is IN MY OPINION in this to destroy the club he's not actually saying he and the board won't sell anyone else he's just realised if they sell anyone else so close to losing MP and RL there would justifiably be uproar. My issue is he feels NOTHING for the club or it's heritage. Yes he can spout rhetoric and is reasonably adept at propaganda but when it comes to PROOVING he actually cares about the fans our SFC where is the evidence that backs it. I never really believed i'd say this but I am beginning to ACTUALLY believe the time has come for new owners. Cortese please, please please come back you may have had faults and got some things wrong but this situation would never have happened under your watch. Bring on the thumbs down but please note I and my views are not validated over whether the other fans that care about the club support my thoughts. We all want whats best for SFC we just have very different views over how that is obtained. My view is the removal of the current board your's maybe we trust the board and well done for keeping the faith but all I ask is respect each others opinions.[/p][/quote]you are of course entitled to your views and opinions and have put quite eloquently and without the abuse that some on here feel necessary. you will of course note, if you have read these threads, realise that I disagree with you, and I would like to counter your points, I will also do this with any abuse or malice. people are saying `chill out` and `relax` because what is there currently to get overly concerned about, there is no evidence of the `dismantling of the club. we have had a manager leave who was always going to, even though the board tried to keep him by offering a better contract than spuds. there was nothing the board could have done to keep him, he played us! we have also sold a striker who is getting on a bit. as much as I love SRL the move was best for him and the club. Ralph cant say the club isn't going to sell, although he`s done the next best thing. if diverpool came in with an offer of £40mill for lalla it would be very hard for any board to turn it down. if he was here to dismantle the club and `asset strip` then the bids of £25mill for lalla and £27mill for luke would have been accepted already, a multi-billionaire isn't going to bother haggling over £3-£5mill. why would they worry about any `uproar` from the fans. if they were just after the money they would sell the players whether the fans liked it or not. Ralph is very good at talking, its his job after all, and yes rhetoric is rhetoric but he has backed his words with actions. if he wasn't here for long why did he bother doing the bike ride with the foundation? he has also turned down bids for players, which is what he said he would do. so far they have done ok, yes MP is gone and yes they sold SRL but you cant really blame them for those. as fr NC and new owners, be careful what you wish for. think about hull or Cardiff and the troubles they are having with their owners. NC wasn't the great god that he has been portrayed as. yes he`s done wonders for the club but he also caused a lot of hassle, no photographers in sms unless they pay. being taken to court twice and overspending. this would never of happened under NC? he wanted to sack MP in December but was convinced not to by the players, he was selling SRL to Hoof until Osvaldo went loopy, so no it wouldn't have happened now as it already would have. as for the bids for our players, do you honestly think that diverpool and manure wouldn't have bid for our players if NC was in charge? of course they would, and they would have ben given the same answer as Ralph has given them, NO. if there was a billionaire out there who had genuine love for the club why didn't they come forward when we were in trouble? instead ML came forward and it was clear to see he loved the club, maybe that's rubbed off on KL, there were stories in the press when NC left that she had no love for football, how do the press know that about a very private lady when their not sure of her age or family? as I say I respect your views and have just tried to counter them with my views and opinions. if im wrong then so be it we are in trouble, however if im right then the club can progress in the manner we all want. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 3

8:10pm Mon 2 Jun 14

ItchenBridger says...

Saint. wrote:
On a slightly different subject...there is a strong possibility that Nike are to make our new kit.
Any stripes in the pictures?
[quote][p][bold]Saint.[/bold] wrote: On a slightly different subject...there is a strong possibility that Nike are to make our new kit.[/p][/quote]Any stripes in the pictures? ItchenBridger
  • Score: 0

8:12pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Golden_Salamander says...

upwherewebelong wrote:
stfrancisofbenali wrote:
It appears that the board have sensibly drawn a line in the sand and said no more transfer dealings until the new manager is in place. If we look at the facts, Rickie has gone in a move that none of us would have begrudged him and now the board have said nothing will be decided until the new man is appointed. Well done board and stop panicking everyone.
I still don't understand why people are saying chill out and relax and being so calm over the dismantling of our club. Krueger is IN MY OPINION in this to destroy the club he's not actually saying he and the board won't sell anyone else he's just realised if they sell anyone else so close to losing MP and RL there would justifiably be uproar. My issue is he feels NOTHING for the club or it's heritage. Yes he can spout rhetoric and is reasonably adept at propaganda but when it comes to PROOVING he actually cares about the fans our SFC where is the evidence that backs it. I never really believed i'd say this but I am beginning to ACTUALLY believe the time has come for new owners. Cortese please, please please come back you may have had faults and got some things wrong but this situation would never have happened under your watch. Bring on the thumbs down but please note I and my views are not validated over whether the other fans that care about the club support my thoughts. We all want whats best for SFC we just have very different views over how that is obtained. My view is the removal of the current board your's maybe we trust the board and well done for keeping the faith but all I ask is respect each others opinions.
Don't worry abut your views.
It has been rumoured to me that there are a number of PR agents on the various Saints web sites at the moment who are JUMPING on anybody who makes any criticism of Ralph or the board.

You will probably notice there are some new people on here recently using the "same words"," same phrases" e.g.. "give the board time". etc.. (Not all are PR agents some are from the "Anybody but Cortese" Mob )

It take me back to the Lowe v Crouch days when somebody traced the ip addresses back if I remember correctly.
[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stfrancisofbenali[/bold] wrote: It appears that the board have sensibly drawn a line in the sand and said no more transfer dealings until the new manager is in place. If we look at the facts, Rickie has gone in a move that none of us would have begrudged him and now the board have said nothing will be decided until the new man is appointed. Well done board and stop panicking everyone.[/p][/quote]I still don't understand why people are saying chill out and relax and being so calm over the dismantling of our club. Krueger is IN MY OPINION in this to destroy the club he's not actually saying he and the board won't sell anyone else he's just realised if they sell anyone else so close to losing MP and RL there would justifiably be uproar. My issue is he feels NOTHING for the club or it's heritage. Yes he can spout rhetoric and is reasonably adept at propaganda but when it comes to PROOVING he actually cares about the fans our SFC where is the evidence that backs it. I never really believed i'd say this but I am beginning to ACTUALLY believe the time has come for new owners. Cortese please, please please come back you may have had faults and got some things wrong but this situation would never have happened under your watch. Bring on the thumbs down but please note I and my views are not validated over whether the other fans that care about the club support my thoughts. We all want whats best for SFC we just have very different views over how that is obtained. My view is the removal of the current board your's maybe we trust the board and well done for keeping the faith but all I ask is respect each others opinions.[/p][/quote]Don't worry abut your views. It has been rumoured to me that there are a number of PR agents on the various Saints web sites at the moment who are JUMPING on anybody who makes any criticism of Ralph or the board. You will probably notice there are some new people on here recently using the "same words"," same phrases" e.g.. "give the board time". etc.. (Not all are PR agents some are from the "Anybody but Cortese" Mob ) It take me back to the Lowe v Crouch days when somebody traced the ip addresses back if I remember correctly. Golden_Salamander
  • Score: -4

8:15pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Jonny Maths says...

I just hope Lallana and Shaw are being advised well.... personally I would love to see AL go to Liverpool for 25M+ , that would be a great price and would allow the new manager to bring in some quality to replace if his wish is really to leave Saints.... Shaw on the other hand ,,, well £25M would be great business for us , no problems finding another full back and I am not convinced he is multi-dimensional in his play.. but if he does go , surely there is a better club for him than Manure !?!?
I just hope Lallana and Shaw are being advised well.... personally I would love to see AL go to Liverpool for 25M+ , that would be a great price and would allow the new manager to bring in some quality to replace if his wish is really to leave Saints.... Shaw on the other hand ,,, well £25M would be great business for us , no problems finding another full back and I am not convinced he is multi-dimensional in his play.. but if he does go , surely there is a better club for him than Manure !?!? Jonny Maths
  • Score: 1

8:18pm Mon 2 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Golden_Salamander wrote:
upwherewebelong wrote:
stfrancisofbenali wrote:
It appears that the board have sensibly drawn a line in the sand and said no more transfer dealings until the new manager is in place. If we look at the facts, Rickie has gone in a move that none of us would have begrudged him and now the board have said nothing will be decided until the new man is appointed. Well done board and stop panicking everyone.
I still don't understand why people are saying chill out and relax and being so calm over the dismantling of our club. Krueger is IN MY OPINION in this to destroy the club he's not actually saying he and the board won't sell anyone else he's just realised if they sell anyone else so close to losing MP and RL there would justifiably be uproar. My issue is he feels NOTHING for the club or it's heritage. Yes he can spout rhetoric and is reasonably adept at propaganda but when it comes to PROOVING he actually cares about the fans our SFC where is the evidence that backs it. I never really believed i'd say this but I am beginning to ACTUALLY believe the time has come for new owners. Cortese please, please please come back you may have had faults and got some things wrong but this situation would never have happened under your watch. Bring on the thumbs down but please note I and my views are not validated over whether the other fans that care about the club support my thoughts. We all want whats best for SFC we just have very different views over how that is obtained. My view is the removal of the current board your's maybe we trust the board and well done for keeping the faith but all I ask is respect each others opinions.
Don't worry abut your views.
It has been rumoured to me that there are a number of PR agents on the various Saints web sites at the moment who are JUMPING on anybody who makes any criticism of Ralph or the board.

You will probably notice there are some new people on here recently using the "same words"," same phrases" e.g.. "give the board time". etc.. (Not all are PR agents some are from the "Anybody but Cortese" Mob )

It take me back to the Lowe v Crouch days when somebody traced the ip addresses back if I remember correctly.
It has been rumoured to me that you actually haven't a clue about what is going on and just like to stir things up, I could be wrong though.
[quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stfrancisofbenali[/bold] wrote: It appears that the board have sensibly drawn a line in the sand and said no more transfer dealings until the new manager is in place. If we look at the facts, Rickie has gone in a move that none of us would have begrudged him and now the board have said nothing will be decided until the new man is appointed. Well done board and stop panicking everyone.[/p][/quote]I still don't understand why people are saying chill out and relax and being so calm over the dismantling of our club. Krueger is IN MY OPINION in this to destroy the club he's not actually saying he and the board won't sell anyone else he's just realised if they sell anyone else so close to losing MP and RL there would justifiably be uproar. My issue is he feels NOTHING for the club or it's heritage. Yes he can spout rhetoric and is reasonably adept at propaganda but when it comes to PROOVING he actually cares about the fans our SFC where is the evidence that backs it. I never really believed i'd say this but I am beginning to ACTUALLY believe the time has come for new owners. Cortese please, please please come back you may have had faults and got some things wrong but this situation would never have happened under your watch. Bring on the thumbs down but please note I and my views are not validated over whether the other fans that care about the club support my thoughts. We all want whats best for SFC we just have very different views over how that is obtained. My view is the removal of the current board your's maybe we trust the board and well done for keeping the faith but all I ask is respect each others opinions.[/p][/quote]Don't worry abut your views. It has been rumoured to me that there are a number of PR agents on the various Saints web sites at the moment who are JUMPING on anybody who makes any criticism of Ralph or the board. You will probably notice there are some new people on here recently using the "same words"," same phrases" e.g.. "give the board time". etc.. (Not all are PR agents some are from the "Anybody but Cortese" Mob ) It take me back to the Lowe v Crouch days when somebody traced the ip addresses back if I remember correctly.[/p][/quote]It has been rumoured to me that you actually haven't a clue about what is going on and just like to stir things up, I could be wrong though. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

8:24pm Mon 2 Jun 14

BigBugBuzzz says...

randre wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Yes it ALL makes perfect sense.

OFFLOAD a proven Double Figure Scoring Player (for sentimental reasons) for 4 million on £35,000 a week for another Player who does not have the prestige of playing for ENGLAND for a whole load more money.

Player A had a perfect Peanlty Taking record - an asset in the Dressing Room and provided assists as well as goals.

Player B - is unproven.

YES - Good Business and Good Decision Making - it all becomes crystal clear.
So you think Saints should have stood in the way of Rickie final career move. Sorry but I believe the club have done the correct thing. As much as I will miss Rickie... Always a Saint
Well, Liverpool played the situation magnificently. The only thing we could have tried was to say, well, if you two want each other so badly, then Liverpool should pay. If that failed, Lambert might have been furious, but at whom? We wanted to sell and let him realize his dream, but Liverpool were not willing enough....
[quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: Yes it ALL makes perfect sense. OFFLOAD a proven Double Figure Scoring Player (for sentimental reasons) for 4 million on £35,000 a week for another Player who does not have the prestige of playing for ENGLAND for a whole load more money. Player A had a perfect Peanlty Taking record - an asset in the Dressing Room and provided assists as well as goals. Player B - is unproven. YES - Good Business and Good Decision Making - it all becomes crystal clear.[/p][/quote]So you think Saints should have stood in the way of Rickie final career move. Sorry but I believe the club have done the correct thing. As much as I will miss Rickie... Always a Saint[/p][/quote]Well, Liverpool played the situation magnificently. The only thing we could have tried was to say, well, if you two want each other so badly, then Liverpool should pay. If that failed, Lambert might have been furious, but at whom? We wanted to sell and let him realize his dream, but Liverpool were not willing enough.... BigBugBuzzz
  • Score: 0

8:34pm Mon 2 Jun 14

StElsass says...

Golden_Salamander wrote:
upwherewebelong wrote:
stfrancisofbenali wrote:
It appears that the board have sensibly drawn a line in the sand and said no more transfer dealings until the new manager is in place. If we look at the facts, Rickie has gone in a move that none of us would have begrudged him and now the board have said nothing will be decided until the new man is appointed. Well done board and stop panicking everyone.
I still don't understand why people are saying chill out and relax and being so calm over the dismantling of our club. Krueger is IN MY OPINION in this to destroy the club he's not actually saying he and the board won't sell anyone else he's just realised if they sell anyone else so close to losing MP and RL there would justifiably be uproar. My issue is he feels NOTHING for the club or it's heritage. Yes he can spout rhetoric and is reasonably adept at propaganda but when it comes to PROOVING he actually cares about the fans our SFC where is the evidence that backs it. I never really believed i'd say this but I am beginning to ACTUALLY believe the time has come for new owners. Cortese please, please please come back you may have had faults and got some things wrong but this situation would never have happened under your watch. Bring on the thumbs down but please note I and my views are not validated over whether the other fans that care about the club support my thoughts. We all want whats best for SFC we just have very different views over how that is obtained. My view is the removal of the current board your's maybe we trust the board and well done for keeping the faith but all I ask is respect each others opinions.
Don't worry abut your views.
It has been rumoured to me that there are a number of PR agents on the various Saints web sites at the moment who are JUMPING on anybody who makes any criticism of Ralph or the board.

You will probably notice there are some new people on here recently using the "same words"," same phrases" e.g.. "give the board time". etc.. (Not all are PR agents some are from the "Anybody but Cortese" Mob )

It take me back to the Lowe v Crouch days when somebody traced the ip addresses back if I remember correctly.
Ok, I think I got this right: you don't like the new board and things would be much better if Cortese was still here.
So, what do you suggest should be done about it?
Because I don't think that making comments on here will make much difference, to be honest.
[quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stfrancisofbenali[/bold] wrote: It appears that the board have sensibly drawn a line in the sand and said no more transfer dealings until the new manager is in place. If we look at the facts, Rickie has gone in a move that none of us would have begrudged him and now the board have said nothing will be decided until the new man is appointed. Well done board and stop panicking everyone.[/p][/quote]I still don't understand why people are saying chill out and relax and being so calm over the dismantling of our club. Krueger is IN MY OPINION in this to destroy the club he's not actually saying he and the board won't sell anyone else he's just realised if they sell anyone else so close to losing MP and RL there would justifiably be uproar. My issue is he feels NOTHING for the club or it's heritage. Yes he can spout rhetoric and is reasonably adept at propaganda but when it comes to PROOVING he actually cares about the fans our SFC where is the evidence that backs it. I never really believed i'd say this but I am beginning to ACTUALLY believe the time has come for new owners. Cortese please, please please come back you may have had faults and got some things wrong but this situation would never have happened under your watch. Bring on the thumbs down but please note I and my views are not validated over whether the other fans that care about the club support my thoughts. We all want whats best for SFC we just have very different views over how that is obtained. My view is the removal of the current board your's maybe we trust the board and well done for keeping the faith but all I ask is respect each others opinions.[/p][/quote]Don't worry abut your views. It has been rumoured to me that there are a number of PR agents on the various Saints web sites at the moment who are JUMPING on anybody who makes any criticism of Ralph or the board. You will probably notice there are some new people on here recently using the "same words"," same phrases" e.g.. "give the board time". etc.. (Not all are PR agents some are from the "Anybody but Cortese" Mob ) It take me back to the Lowe v Crouch days when somebody traced the ip addresses back if I remember correctly.[/p][/quote]Ok, I think I got this right: you don't like the new board and things would be much better if Cortese was still here. So, what do you suggest should be done about it? Because I don't think that making comments on here will make much difference, to be honest. StElsass
  • Score: 5

8:37pm Mon 2 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

StElsass wrote:
Golden_Salamander wrote:
upwherewebelong wrote:
stfrancisofbenali wrote:
It appears that the board have sensibly drawn a line in the sand and said no more transfer dealings until the new manager is in place. If we look at the facts, Rickie has gone in a move that none of us would have begrudged him and now the board have said nothing will be decided until the new man is appointed. Well done board and stop panicking everyone.
I still don't understand why people are saying chill out and relax and being so calm over the dismantling of our club. Krueger is IN MY OPINION in this to destroy the club he's not actually saying he and the board won't sell anyone else he's just realised if they sell anyone else so close to losing MP and RL there would justifiably be uproar. My issue is he feels NOTHING for the club or it's heritage. Yes he can spout rhetoric and is reasonably adept at propaganda but when it comes to PROOVING he actually cares about the fans our SFC where is the evidence that backs it. I never really believed i'd say this but I am beginning to ACTUALLY believe the time has come for new owners. Cortese please, please please come back you may have had faults and got some things wrong but this situation would never have happened under your watch. Bring on the thumbs down but please note I and my views are not validated over whether the other fans that care about the club support my thoughts. We all want whats best for SFC we just have very different views over how that is obtained. My view is the removal of the current board your's maybe we trust the board and well done for keeping the faith but all I ask is respect each others opinions.
Don't worry abut your views.
It has been rumoured to me that there are a number of PR agents on the various Saints web sites at the moment who are JUMPING on anybody who makes any criticism of Ralph or the board.

You will probably notice there are some new people on here recently using the "same words"," same phrases" e.g.. "give the board time". etc.. (Not all are PR agents some are from the "Anybody but Cortese" Mob )

It take me back to the Lowe v Crouch days when somebody traced the ip addresses back if I remember correctly.
Ok, I think I got this right: you don't like the new board and things would be much better if Cortese was still here.
So, what do you suggest should be done about it?
Because I don't think that making comments on here will make much difference, to be honest.
lol nicely put, good point, well made.
[quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stfrancisofbenali[/bold] wrote: It appears that the board have sensibly drawn a line in the sand and said no more transfer dealings until the new manager is in place. If we look at the facts, Rickie has gone in a move that none of us would have begrudged him and now the board have said nothing will be decided until the new man is appointed. Well done board and stop panicking everyone.[/p][/quote]I still don't understand why people are saying chill out and relax and being so calm over the dismantling of our club. Krueger is IN MY OPINION in this to destroy the club he's not actually saying he and the board won't sell anyone else he's just realised if they sell anyone else so close to losing MP and RL there would justifiably be uproar. My issue is he feels NOTHING for the club or it's heritage. Yes he can spout rhetoric and is reasonably adept at propaganda but when it comes to PROOVING he actually cares about the fans our SFC where is the evidence that backs it. I never really believed i'd say this but I am beginning to ACTUALLY believe the time has come for new owners. Cortese please, please please come back you may have had faults and got some things wrong but this situation would never have happened under your watch. Bring on the thumbs down but please note I and my views are not validated over whether the other fans that care about the club support my thoughts. We all want whats best for SFC we just have very different views over how that is obtained. My view is the removal of the current board your's maybe we trust the board and well done for keeping the faith but all I ask is respect each others opinions.[/p][/quote]Don't worry abut your views. It has been rumoured to me that there are a number of PR agents on the various Saints web sites at the moment who are JUMPING on anybody who makes any criticism of Ralph or the board. You will probably notice there are some new people on here recently using the "same words"," same phrases" e.g.. "give the board time". etc.. (Not all are PR agents some are from the "Anybody but Cortese" Mob ) It take me back to the Lowe v Crouch days when somebody traced the ip addresses back if I remember correctly.[/p][/quote]Ok, I think I got this right: you don't like the new board and things would be much better if Cortese was still here. So, what do you suggest should be done about it? Because I don't think that making comments on here will make much difference, to be honest.[/p][/quote]lol nicely put, good point, well made. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

8:40pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Positively4thStreet says...

wrypop wrote:
I see good news ahead! Paddy Power have Ronald Koeman at odds on for our next Manager, and for the Celtic job they have Pope Francis at 1500/1

Surely the dream team is for the Pope to assist Koeman and then it really would time for some Hail St Mary's? Sorry but its hot here in Spain..
Ron Manager..seen at Betfred.
[quote][p][bold]wrypop[/bold] wrote: I see good news ahead! Paddy Power have Ronald Koeman at odds on for our next Manager, and for the Celtic job they have Pope Francis at 1500/1 Surely the dream team is for the Pope to assist Koeman and then it really would time for some Hail St Mary's? Sorry but its hot here in Spain..[/p][/quote]Ron Manager..seen at Betfred. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

8:54pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Saint. says...

ItchenBridger wrote:
Saint. wrote:
On a slightly different subject...there is a strong possibility that Nike are to make our new kit.
Any stripes in the pictures?
I wish I knew.

All I can say is this guy works for Nike in a senior position in Holland, and is about to be transferred to their headquarters in Tampa bay, and he is a Southampton fan, with a ticket for the World Cup final. He would not divulge anymore than they will be making Southampton kit.

We shall see if he is telling the truth, but he sounded sincere and is a genuine Saints fan!
[quote][p][bold]ItchenBridger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint.[/bold] wrote: On a slightly different subject...there is a strong possibility that Nike are to make our new kit.[/p][/quote]Any stripes in the pictures?[/p][/quote]I wish I knew. All I can say is this guy works for Nike in a senior position in Holland, and is about to be transferred to their headquarters in Tampa bay, and he is a Southampton fan, with a ticket for the World Cup final. He would not divulge anymore than they will be making Southampton kit. We shall see if he is telling the truth, but he sounded sincere and is a genuine Saints fan! Saint.
  • Score: 0

9:16pm Mon 2 Jun 14

mac3696 says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you.
Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative.
Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.
On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere.
On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances.
Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here.

And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....
I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion.
My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment.
Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.
So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving?
Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying?
Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?
It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I??
He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place.
Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL.
Crystal?
Oh dear, are we getting a bit tired and short tempered?
Listen pet (since we seem to be in a patronising mood!), it will be much easier for you to get over your anxieties if you did realise that the reason he didn't say "definitely not" or "can promise" is simply because he can't, because he could end up having lied (ironic isn't it?).
What he is saying is that the club will do everything they can to keep hold of their players, but if say AL (or other) requests a transfer and Liverpool (or other) offer us £35m+ then of course they will sell him. Every player has a price, in any club. And before you give me the Suarez example, had Real Madrid come in with an offer of £90m instead of going for Bale last season, he would probably have won the CL last week.
Personally, I would be more concerned if our Chairman came out and told us "definitely" or "can promise"; it would definitely mean he is taking the p**s, I can promise you that...
Not tired. Not short tempered. Just trying clarify my opinion to those who don't agree by the looks of it..."Pet"?
While I dislike negativity I have to say that the attack on J7 here is very unjustified. I, like many fans, want to be positive and await the facts rather than panic over various press reports and rumours, however totally understand what J7 is saying here...we were reassured by Kruegar, then he contradicted the implied message he gave, by allowing Rickie to go. I wish Rickie well like most others, however, why did the transfer need to be rushed through?
I hate the negativity on this site sometimes but I don't mean the people expressing their valid negative feelings as genuine Saints fans but the personal attacks people make on each other for having different opinions, whether positive or negative. Please save these attacks for the idiots from Poopey etc who come on here to try and wind us all up.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you. Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative. Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.[/p][/quote]On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere. On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances. Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here. And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....[/p][/quote]I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion. My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment. Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.[/p][/quote]So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving? Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying? Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?[/p][/quote]It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I?? He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place. Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL. Crystal?[/p][/quote]Oh dear, are we getting a bit tired and short tempered? Listen pet (since we seem to be in a patronising mood!), it will be much easier for you to get over your anxieties if you did realise that the reason he didn't say "definitely not" or "can promise" is simply because he can't, because he could end up having lied (ironic isn't it?). What he is saying is that the club will do everything they can to keep hold of their players, but if say AL (or other) requests a transfer and Liverpool (or other) offer us £35m+ then of course they will sell him. Every player has a price, in any club. And before you give me the Suarez example, had Real Madrid come in with an offer of £90m instead of going for Bale last season, he would probably have won the CL last week. Personally, I would be more concerned if our Chairman came out and told us "definitely" or "can promise"; it would definitely mean he is taking the p**s, I can promise you that...[/p][/quote]Not tired. Not short tempered. Just trying clarify my opinion to those who don't agree by the looks of it..."Pet"?[/p][/quote]While I dislike negativity I have to say that the attack on J7 here is very unjustified. I, like many fans, want to be positive and await the facts rather than panic over various press reports and rumours, however totally understand what J7 is saying here...we were reassured by Kruegar, then he contradicted the implied message he gave, by allowing Rickie to go. I wish Rickie well like most others, however, why did the transfer need to be rushed through? I hate the negativity on this site sometimes but I don't mean the people expressing their valid negative feelings as genuine Saints fans but the personal attacks people make on each other for having different opinions, whether positive or negative. Please save these attacks for the idiots from Poopey etc who come on here to try and wind us all up. mac3696
  • Score: 0

9:21pm Mon 2 Jun 14

J7junctionseven says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you.
Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative.
Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.
On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere.
On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances.
Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here.

And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....
I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion.
My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment.
Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.
So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving?
Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying?
Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?
It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I??
He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place.
Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL.
Crystal?
Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?
Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves.
Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you. Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative. Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.[/p][/quote]On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere. On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances. Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here. And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....[/p][/quote]I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion. My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment. Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.[/p][/quote]So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving? Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying? Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?[/p][/quote]It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I?? He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place. Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL. Crystal?[/p][/quote]Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?[/p][/quote]Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves. Oh and it's "Grey" lassie. J7junctionseven
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9:29pm Mon 2 Jun 14

J7junctionseven says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you.
Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative.
Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.
Many thanks for allowing us the right to have our own opinion and assumptions, very magnanimous of you, I don't think it was said that there would be no transfers, what was said was that we didn't have to sell anyone if we didn't want to. RL was an exceptional case, it was a move that benefits all concerned in the long run.

How about a categorical statement, hand on heart from you, saying that you are a genuine Saints supporter and really do have concerns for our future and that is why you feel the need to express these constant negative doubts. You and a few others are going to worry yourselves into an early grave at this rate, ulcers the least likely scenario methinks. You need to take a step back and realise what affect it is having on you, please take care, we are going to need to keep the numbers up, if we are to survive this current rocky passage.
Oh look Mr Nitpicker's trying to get some attention as usual....zzzzzzz
Boring
I'm sure I'm not the only one getting a bit bored of your defensiveness - can't you just chill out a bit and have a civil conversation without resorting to playground stuff as soon as someone questions you?

Everything's getting a bit fractious on here and I think people need to take a step back and realise we all (for the most part) want the best for the club, so let's not get all uppety as soon as someone has a different opinion.
I'm sure you are in that special little club but not all of us are as perfect as you make yourselves out to be.
Some people have got personalities and don't follow the rest of the PC sheep.
Try not to be so condescending in future and you may hopefully make some real friends and not have to follow someone else's lead.
Baaaaahhye for now
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you. Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative. Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.[/p][/quote]Many thanks for allowing us the right to have our own opinion and assumptions, very magnanimous of you, I don't think it was said that there would be no transfers, what was said was that we didn't have to sell anyone if we didn't want to. RL was an exceptional case, it was a move that benefits all concerned in the long run. How about a categorical statement, hand on heart from you, saying that you are a genuine Saints supporter and really do have concerns for our future and that is why you feel the need to express these constant negative doubts. You and a few others are going to worry yourselves into an early grave at this rate, ulcers the least likely scenario methinks. You need to take a step back and realise what affect it is having on you, please take care, we are going to need to keep the numbers up, if we are to survive this current rocky passage.[/p][/quote]Oh look Mr Nitpicker's trying to get some attention as usual....zzzzzzz Boring[/p][/quote]I'm sure I'm not the only one getting a bit bored of your defensiveness - can't you just chill out a bit and have a civil conversation without resorting to playground stuff as soon as someone questions you? Everything's getting a bit fractious on here and I think people need to take a step back and realise we all (for the most part) want the best for the club, so let's not get all uppety as soon as someone has a different opinion.[/p][/quote]I'm sure you are in that special little club but not all of us are as perfect as you make yourselves out to be. Some people have got personalities and don't follow the rest of the PC sheep. Try not to be so condescending in future and you may hopefully make some real friends and not have to follow someone else's lead. Baaaaahhye for now J7junctionseven
  • Score: -1

9:35pm Mon 2 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you.
Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative.
Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.
On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere.
On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances.
Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here.

And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....
I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion.
My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment.
Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.
So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving?
Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying?
Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?
It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I??
He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place.
Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL.
Crystal?
Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?
Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves.
Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.
No, not annoyed at all, gray is an acceptable alternative spelling these days. I don't crave attention, but the best way to avoid it is to ignor me, sorry if I rattled your cage, all I ask is that you think before you post and keep the negatives to a minimum, it upsets the morale of the troops, and they are under a great deal of stress at the moment. Get the decent new Manager in with a forward idea for us to work on and things will be OK. With or without Prima Donnas that don't want to be part of the New Order. Trust me, (I wouldn't coz I know me), it will be all right on the night.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you. Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative. Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.[/p][/quote]On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere. On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances. Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here. And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....[/p][/quote]I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion. My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment. Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.[/p][/quote]So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving? Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying? Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?[/p][/quote]It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I?? He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place. Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL. Crystal?[/p][/quote]Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?[/p][/quote]Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves. Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.[/p][/quote]No, not annoyed at all, gray is an acceptable alternative spelling these days. I don't crave attention, but the best way to avoid it is to ignor me, sorry if I rattled your cage, all I ask is that you think before you post and keep the negatives to a minimum, it upsets the morale of the troops, and they are under a great deal of stress at the moment. Get the decent new Manager in with a forward idea for us to work on and things will be OK. With or without Prima Donnas that don't want to be part of the New Order. Trust me, (I wouldn't coz I know me), it will be all right on the night. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

9:36pm Mon 2 Jun 14

J7junctionseven says...

mac3696 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you.
Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative.
Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.
On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere.
On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances.
Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here.

And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....
I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion.
My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment.
Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.
So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving?
Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying?
Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?
It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I??
He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place.
Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL.
Crystal?
Oh dear, are we getting a bit tired and short tempered?
Listen pet (since we seem to be in a patronising mood!), it will be much easier for you to get over your anxieties if you did realise that the reason he didn't say "definitely not" or "can promise" is simply because he can't, because he could end up having lied (ironic isn't it?).
What he is saying is that the club will do everything they can to keep hold of their players, but if say AL (or other) requests a transfer and Liverpool (or other) offer us £35m+ then of course they will sell him. Every player has a price, in any club. And before you give me the Suarez example, had Real Madrid come in with an offer of £90m instead of going for Bale last season, he would probably have won the CL last week.
Personally, I would be more concerned if our Chairman came out and told us "definitely" or "can promise"; it would definitely mean he is taking the p**s, I can promise you that...
Not tired. Not short tempered. Just trying clarify my opinion to those who don't agree by the looks of it..."Pet"?
While I dislike negativity I have to say that the attack on J7 here is very unjustified. I, like many fans, want to be positive and await the facts rather than panic over various press reports and rumours, however totally understand what J7 is saying here...we were reassured by Kruegar, then he contradicted the implied message he gave, by allowing Rickie to go. I wish Rickie well like most others, however, why did the transfer need to be rushed through?
I hate the negativity on this site sometimes but I don't mean the people expressing their valid negative feelings as genuine Saints fans but the personal attacks people make on each other for having different opinions, whether positive or negative. Please save these attacks for the idiots from Poopey etc who come on here to try and wind us all up.
At last a voice of reason,
Thanks
[quote][p][bold]mac3696[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you. Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative. Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.[/p][/quote]On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere. On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances. Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here. And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....[/p][/quote]I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion. My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment. Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.[/p][/quote]So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving? Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying? Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?[/p][/quote]It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I?? He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place. Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL. Crystal?[/p][/quote]Oh dear, are we getting a bit tired and short tempered? Listen pet (since we seem to be in a patronising mood!), it will be much easier for you to get over your anxieties if you did realise that the reason he didn't say "definitely not" or "can promise" is simply because he can't, because he could end up having lied (ironic isn't it?). What he is saying is that the club will do everything they can to keep hold of their players, but if say AL (or other) requests a transfer and Liverpool (or other) offer us £35m+ then of course they will sell him. Every player has a price, in any club. And before you give me the Suarez example, had Real Madrid come in with an offer of £90m instead of going for Bale last season, he would probably have won the CL last week. Personally, I would be more concerned if our Chairman came out and told us "definitely" or "can promise"; it would definitely mean he is taking the p**s, I can promise you that...[/p][/quote]Not tired. Not short tempered. Just trying clarify my opinion to those who don't agree by the looks of it..."Pet"?[/p][/quote]While I dislike negativity I have to say that the attack on J7 here is very unjustified. I, like many fans, want to be positive and await the facts rather than panic over various press reports and rumours, however totally understand what J7 is saying here...we were reassured by Kruegar, then he contradicted the implied message he gave, by allowing Rickie to go. I wish Rickie well like most others, however, why did the transfer need to be rushed through? I hate the negativity on this site sometimes but I don't mean the people expressing their valid negative feelings as genuine Saints fans but the personal attacks people make on each other for having different opinions, whether positive or negative. Please save these attacks for the idiots from Poopey etc who come on here to try and wind us all up.[/p][/quote]At last a voice of reason, Thanks J7junctionseven
  • Score: -1

9:36pm Mon 2 Jun 14

search for the truth says...

I've said all along that Lallana would be going to play CL at Liverpool and now it seems he has put in a transfer request along with Shaw.
I've said all along that Lallana would be going to play CL at Liverpool and now it seems he has put in a transfer request along with Shaw. search for the truth
  • Score: -5

9:45pm Mon 2 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

search for the truth wrote:
I've said all along that Lallana would be going to play CL at Liverpool and now it seems he has put in a transfer request along with Shaw.
Source please? I don't doubt that it is possible, but it is difficult to believe anything that you hear that hasn't come from a bona fide source and quite frankly your reputation for telling the truth is a wee bit shaky.
[quote][p][bold]search for the truth[/bold] wrote: I've said all along that Lallana would be going to play CL at Liverpool and now it seems he has put in a transfer request along with Shaw.[/p][/quote]Source please? I don't doubt that it is possible, but it is difficult to believe anything that you hear that hasn't come from a bona fide source and quite frankly your reputation for telling the truth is a wee bit shaky. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

9:46pm Mon 2 Jun 14

J7junctionseven says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you.
Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative.
Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.
On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere.
On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances.
Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here.

And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....
I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion.
My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment.
Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.
So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving?
Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying?
Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?
It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I??
He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place.
Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL.
Crystal?
Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?
Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves.
Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.
No, not annoyed at all, gray is an acceptable alternative spelling these days. I don't crave attention, but the best way to avoid it is to ignor me, sorry if I rattled your cage, all I ask is that you think before you post and keep the negatives to a minimum, it upsets the morale of the troops, and they are under a great deal of stress at the moment. Get the decent new Manager in with a forward idea for us to work on and things will be OK. With or without Prima Donnas that don't want to be part of the New Order. Trust me, (I wouldn't coz I know me), it will be all right on the night.
You seem to ask a lot of people on here to do things your way but we're not all sheep I'm afraid.
Some times you might have to give up on trying to get a rise out of someone or try and convert them to "The world according to OS"
Right now would be a good time to start.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you. Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative. Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.[/p][/quote]On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere. On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances. Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here. And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....[/p][/quote]I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion. My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment. Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.[/p][/quote]So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving? Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying? Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?[/p][/quote]It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I?? He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place. Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL. Crystal?[/p][/quote]Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?[/p][/quote]Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves. Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.[/p][/quote]No, not annoyed at all, gray is an acceptable alternative spelling these days. I don't crave attention, but the best way to avoid it is to ignor me, sorry if I rattled your cage, all I ask is that you think before you post and keep the negatives to a minimum, it upsets the morale of the troops, and they are under a great deal of stress at the moment. Get the decent new Manager in with a forward idea for us to work on and things will be OK. With or without Prima Donnas that don't want to be part of the New Order. Trust me, (I wouldn't coz I know me), it will be all right on the night.[/p][/quote]You seem to ask a lot of people on here to do things your way but we're not all sheep I'm afraid. Some times you might have to give up on trying to get a rise out of someone or try and convert them to "The world according to OS" Right now would be a good time to start. J7junctionseven
  • Score: 1

9:47pm Mon 2 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Saint. wrote:
ItchenBridger wrote:
Saint. wrote:
On a slightly different subject...there is a strong possibility that Nike are to make our new kit.
Any stripes in the pictures?
I wish I knew.

All I can say is this guy works for Nike in a senior position in Holland, and is about to be transferred to their headquarters in Tampa bay, and he is a Southampton fan, with a ticket for the World Cup final. He would not divulge anymore than they will be making Southampton kit.

We shall see if he is telling the truth, but he sounded sincere and is a genuine Saints fan!
It would be nice to get some good news for once, hope there are stripes involved, thanks for the gen, there is light at the end of the tunnel.
[quote][p][bold]Saint.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ItchenBridger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint.[/bold] wrote: On a slightly different subject...there is a strong possibility that Nike are to make our new kit.[/p][/quote]Any stripes in the pictures?[/p][/quote]I wish I knew. All I can say is this guy works for Nike in a senior position in Holland, and is about to be transferred to their headquarters in Tampa bay, and he is a Southampton fan, with a ticket for the World Cup final. He would not divulge anymore than they will be making Southampton kit. We shall see if he is telling the truth, but he sounded sincere and is a genuine Saints fan![/p][/quote]It would be nice to get some good news for once, hope there are stripes involved, thanks for the gen, there is light at the end of the tunnel. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

9:52pm Mon 2 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you.
Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative.
Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.
On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere.
On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances.
Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here.

And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....
I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion.
My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment.
Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.
So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving?
Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying?
Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?
It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I??
He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place.
Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL.
Crystal?
Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?
Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves.
Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.
No, not annoyed at all, gray is an acceptable alternative spelling these days. I don't crave attention, but the best way to avoid it is to ignor me, sorry if I rattled your cage, all I ask is that you think before you post and keep the negatives to a minimum, it upsets the morale of the troops, and they are under a great deal of stress at the moment. Get the decent new Manager in with a forward idea for us to work on and things will be OK. With or without Prima Donnas that don't want to be part of the New Order. Trust me, (I wouldn't coz I know me), it will be all right on the night.
You seem to ask a lot of people on here to do things your way but we're not all sheep I'm afraid.
Some times you might have to give up on trying to get a rise out of someone or try and convert them to "The world according to OS"
Right now would be a good time to start.
You notice I only ask, I don't demand, I am not always right but I am often on the right side of correctness, you still haven't said that you are a genuine Saints convert although you have been asked the question by others about where your loyalties lie. So come out and tell us, you are a Saints fan, and only post negatives to keep the rest of us on our toes, right?
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you. Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative. Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.[/p][/quote]On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere. On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances. Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here. And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....[/p][/quote]I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion. My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment. Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.[/p][/quote]So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving? Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying? Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?[/p][/quote]It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I?? He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place. Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL. Crystal?[/p][/quote]Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?[/p][/quote]Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves. Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.[/p][/quote]No, not annoyed at all, gray is an acceptable alternative spelling these days. I don't crave attention, but the best way to avoid it is to ignor me, sorry if I rattled your cage, all I ask is that you think before you post and keep the negatives to a minimum, it upsets the morale of the troops, and they are under a great deal of stress at the moment. Get the decent new Manager in with a forward idea for us to work on and things will be OK. With or without Prima Donnas that don't want to be part of the New Order. Trust me, (I wouldn't coz I know me), it will be all right on the night.[/p][/quote]You seem to ask a lot of people on here to do things your way but we're not all sheep I'm afraid. Some times you might have to give up on trying to get a rise out of someone or try and convert them to "The world according to OS" Right now would be a good time to start.[/p][/quote]You notice I only ask, I don't demand, I am not always right but I am often on the right side of correctness, you still haven't said that you are a genuine Saints convert although you have been asked the question by others about where your loyalties lie. So come out and tell us, you are a Saints fan, and only post negatives to keep the rest of us on our toes, right? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

9:56pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Positively4thStreet says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you.
Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative.
Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.
On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere.
On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances.
Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here.

And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....
I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion.
My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment.
Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.
So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving?
Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying?
Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?
It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I??
He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place.
Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL.
Crystal?
Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?
Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves.
Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.
No, not annoyed at all, gray is an acceptable alternative spelling these days. I don't crave attention, but the best way to avoid it is to ignor me, sorry if I rattled your cage, all I ask is that you think before you post and keep the negatives to a minimum, it upsets the morale of the troops, and they are under a great deal of stress at the moment. Get the decent new Manager in with a forward idea for us to work on and things will be OK. With or without Prima Donnas that don't want to be part of the New Order. Trust me, (I wouldn't coz I know me), it will be all right on the night.
Maybe you should have said "Charcoal" Ospers,or d'you feel that's a little too avant-garde?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you. Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative. Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.[/p][/quote]On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere. On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances. Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here. And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....[/p][/quote]I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion. My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment. Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.[/p][/quote]So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving? Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying? Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?[/p][/quote]It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I?? He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place. Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL. Crystal?[/p][/quote]Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?[/p][/quote]Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves. Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.[/p][/quote]No, not annoyed at all, gray is an acceptable alternative spelling these days. I don't crave attention, but the best way to avoid it is to ignor me, sorry if I rattled your cage, all I ask is that you think before you post and keep the negatives to a minimum, it upsets the morale of the troops, and they are under a great deal of stress at the moment. Get the decent new Manager in with a forward idea for us to work on and things will be OK. With or without Prima Donnas that don't want to be part of the New Order. Trust me, (I wouldn't coz I know me), it will be all right on the night.[/p][/quote]Maybe you should have said "Charcoal" Ospers,or d'you feel that's a little too avant-garde? Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

9:59pm Mon 2 Jun 14

mac3696 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you.
Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative.
Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.
On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere.
On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances.
Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here.

And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....
I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion.
My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment.
Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.
So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving?
Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying?
Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?
It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I??
He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place.
Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL.
Crystal?
Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?
Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves.
Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.
No, not annoyed at all, gray is an acceptable alternative spelling these days. I don't crave attention, but the best way to avoid it is to ignor me, sorry if I rattled your cage, all I ask is that you think before you post and keep the negatives to a minimum, it upsets the morale of the troops, and they are under a great deal of stress at the moment. Get the decent new Manager in with a forward idea for us to work on and things will be OK. With or without Prima Donnas that don't want to be part of the New Order. Trust me, (I wouldn't coz I know me), it will be all right on the night.
You seem to ask a lot of people on here to do things your way but we're not all sheep I'm afraid.
Some times you might have to give up on trying to get a rise out of someone or try and convert them to "The world according to OS"
Right now would be a good time to start.
You notice I only ask, I don't demand, I am not always right but I am often on the right side of correctness, you still haven't said that you are a genuine Saints convert although you have been asked the question by others about where your loyalties lie. So come out and tell us, you are a Saints fan, and only post negatives to keep the rest of us on our toes, right?
Very argumentative Osprey tut tut. As I said earlier, J7 has made some well reasoned points on here which aren't particularly negative. Stop picking a fight and being a little patronising. Let's all allow everyone their opinions eh?

PS Gray is not an accepted spelling of the colour grey, sorry but as a teacher, I couldn't resist this one.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you. Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative. Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.[/p][/quote]On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere. On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances. Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here. And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....[/p][/quote]I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion. My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment. Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.[/p][/quote]So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving? Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying? Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?[/p][/quote]It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I?? He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place. Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL. Crystal?[/p][/quote]Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?[/p][/quote]Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves. Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.[/p][/quote]No, not annoyed at all, gray is an acceptable alternative spelling these days. I don't crave attention, but the best way to avoid it is to ignor me, sorry if I rattled your cage, all I ask is that you think before you post and keep the negatives to a minimum, it upsets the morale of the troops, and they are under a great deal of stress at the moment. Get the decent new Manager in with a forward idea for us to work on and things will be OK. With or without Prima Donnas that don't want to be part of the New Order. Trust me, (I wouldn't coz I know me), it will be all right on the night.[/p][/quote]You seem to ask a lot of people on here to do things your way but we're not all sheep I'm afraid. Some times you might have to give up on trying to get a rise out of someone or try and convert them to "The world according to OS" Right now would be a good time to start.[/p][/quote]You notice I only ask, I don't demand, I am not always right but I am often on the right side of correctness, you still haven't said that you are a genuine Saints convert although you have been asked the question by others about where your loyalties lie. So come out and tell us, you are a Saints fan, and only post negatives to keep the rest of us on our toes, right?[/p][/quote]Very argumentative Osprey tut tut. As I said earlier, J7 has made some well reasoned points on here which aren't particularly negative. Stop picking a fight and being a little patronising. Let's all allow everyone their opinions eh? PS Gray is not an accepted spelling of the colour grey, sorry but as a teacher, I couldn't resist this one. mac3696
  • Score: -1

10:05pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Positively4thStreet says...

mac3696 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you.
Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative.
Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.
On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere.
On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances.
Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here.

And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....
I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion.
My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment.
Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.
So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving?
Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying?
Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?
It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I??
He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place.
Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL.
Crystal?
Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?
Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves.
Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.
No, not annoyed at all, gray is an acceptable alternative spelling these days. I don't crave attention, but the best way to avoid it is to ignor me, sorry if I rattled your cage, all I ask is that you think before you post and keep the negatives to a minimum, it upsets the morale of the troops, and they are under a great deal of stress at the moment. Get the decent new Manager in with a forward idea for us to work on and things will be OK. With or without Prima Donnas that don't want to be part of the New Order. Trust me, (I wouldn't coz I know me), it will be all right on the night.
You seem to ask a lot of people on here to do things your way but we're not all sheep I'm afraid.
Some times you might have to give up on trying to get a rise out of someone or try and convert them to "The world according to OS"
Right now would be a good time to start.
You notice I only ask, I don't demand, I am not always right but I am often on the right side of correctness, you still haven't said that you are a genuine Saints convert although you have been asked the question by others about where your loyalties lie. So come out and tell us, you are a Saints fan, and only post negatives to keep the rest of us on our toes, right?
Very argumentative Osprey tut tut. As I said earlier, J7 has made some well reasoned points on here which aren't particularly negative. Stop picking a fight and being a little patronising. Let's all allow everyone their opinions eh?

PS Gray is not an accepted spelling of the colour grey, sorry but as a teacher, I couldn't resist this one.
Gray is the American spelling...so,no good on Countdown then!
[quote][p][bold]mac3696[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you. Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative. Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.[/p][/quote]On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere. On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances. Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here. And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....[/p][/quote]I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion. My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment. Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.[/p][/quote]So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving? Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying? Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?[/p][/quote]It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I?? He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place. Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL. Crystal?[/p][/quote]Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?[/p][/quote]Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves. Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.[/p][/quote]No, not annoyed at all, gray is an acceptable alternative spelling these days. I don't crave attention, but the best way to avoid it is to ignor me, sorry if I rattled your cage, all I ask is that you think before you post and keep the negatives to a minimum, it upsets the morale of the troops, and they are under a great deal of stress at the moment. Get the decent new Manager in with a forward idea for us to work on and things will be OK. With or without Prima Donnas that don't want to be part of the New Order. Trust me, (I wouldn't coz I know me), it will be all right on the night.[/p][/quote]You seem to ask a lot of people on here to do things your way but we're not all sheep I'm afraid. Some times you might have to give up on trying to get a rise out of someone or try and convert them to "The world according to OS" Right now would be a good time to start.[/p][/quote]You notice I only ask, I don't demand, I am not always right but I am often on the right side of correctness, you still haven't said that you are a genuine Saints convert although you have been asked the question by others about where your loyalties lie. So come out and tell us, you are a Saints fan, and only post negatives to keep the rest of us on our toes, right?[/p][/quote]Very argumentative Osprey tut tut. As I said earlier, J7 has made some well reasoned points on here which aren't particularly negative. Stop picking a fight and being a little patronising. Let's all allow everyone their opinions eh? PS Gray is not an accepted spelling of the colour grey, sorry but as a teacher, I couldn't resist this one.[/p][/quote]Gray is the American spelling...so,no good on Countdown then! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

10:05pm Mon 2 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

mac3696 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you.
Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative.
Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.
On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere.
On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances.
Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here.

And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....
I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion.
My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment.
Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.
So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving?
Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying?
Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?
It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I??
He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place.
Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL.
Crystal?
Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?
Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves.
Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.
No, not annoyed at all, gray is an acceptable alternative spelling these days. I don't crave attention, but the best way to avoid it is to ignor me, sorry if I rattled your cage, all I ask is that you think before you post and keep the negatives to a minimum, it upsets the morale of the troops, and they are under a great deal of stress at the moment. Get the decent new Manager in with a forward idea for us to work on and things will be OK. With or without Prima Donnas that don't want to be part of the New Order. Trust me, (I wouldn't coz I know me), it will be all right on the night.
You seem to ask a lot of people on here to do things your way but we're not all sheep I'm afraid.
Some times you might have to give up on trying to get a rise out of someone or try and convert them to "The world according to OS"
Right now would be a good time to start.
You notice I only ask, I don't demand, I am not always right but I am often on the right side of correctness, you still haven't said that you are a genuine Saints convert although you have been asked the question by others about where your loyalties lie. So come out and tell us, you are a Saints fan, and only post negatives to keep the rest of us on our toes, right?
Very argumentative Osprey tut tut. As I said earlier, J7 has made some well reasoned points on here which aren't particularly negative. Stop picking a fight and being a little patronising. Let's all allow everyone their opinions eh?

PS Gray is not an accepted spelling of the colour grey, sorry but as a teacher, I couldn't resist this one.
Gray,? OK I bow to your superior knowledge, it is one of those horrible Americanisms, I will put on the dunces hat and stand in the corner, J7 must know I am only teasing him by now, surely?
[quote][p][bold]mac3696[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you. Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative. Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.[/p][/quote]On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere. On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances. Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here. And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....[/p][/quote]I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion. My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment. Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.[/p][/quote]So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving? Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying? Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?[/p][/quote]It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I?? He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place. Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL. Crystal?[/p][/quote]Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?[/p][/quote]Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves. Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.[/p][/quote]No, not annoyed at all, gray is an acceptable alternative spelling these days. I don't crave attention, but the best way to avoid it is to ignor me, sorry if I rattled your cage, all I ask is that you think before you post and keep the negatives to a minimum, it upsets the morale of the troops, and they are under a great deal of stress at the moment. Get the decent new Manager in with a forward idea for us to work on and things will be OK. With or without Prima Donnas that don't want to be part of the New Order. Trust me, (I wouldn't coz I know me), it will be all right on the night.[/p][/quote]You seem to ask a lot of people on here to do things your way but we're not all sheep I'm afraid. Some times you might have to give up on trying to get a rise out of someone or try and convert them to "The world according to OS" Right now would be a good time to start.[/p][/quote]You notice I only ask, I don't demand, I am not always right but I am often on the right side of correctness, you still haven't said that you are a genuine Saints convert although you have been asked the question by others about where your loyalties lie. So come out and tell us, you are a Saints fan, and only post negatives to keep the rest of us on our toes, right?[/p][/quote]Very argumentative Osprey tut tut. As I said earlier, J7 has made some well reasoned points on here which aren't particularly negative. Stop picking a fight and being a little patronising. Let's all allow everyone their opinions eh? PS Gray is not an accepted spelling of the colour grey, sorry but as a teacher, I couldn't resist this one.[/p][/quote]Gray,? OK I bow to your superior knowledge, it is one of those horrible Americanisms, I will put on the dunces hat and stand in the corner, J7 must know I am only teasing him by now, surely? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

10:07pm Mon 2 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you.
Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative.
Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.
On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere.
On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances.
Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here.

And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....
I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion.
My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment.
Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.
So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving?
Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying?
Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?
It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I??
He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place.
Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL.
Crystal?
Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?
Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves.
Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.
No, not annoyed at all, gray is an acceptable alternative spelling these days. I don't crave attention, but the best way to avoid it is to ignor me, sorry if I rattled your cage, all I ask is that you think before you post and keep the negatives to a minimum, it upsets the morale of the troops, and they are under a great deal of stress at the moment. Get the decent new Manager in with a forward idea for us to work on and things will be OK. With or without Prima Donnas that don't want to be part of the New Order. Trust me, (I wouldn't coz I know me), it will be all right on the night.
Maybe you should have said "Charcoal" Ospers,or d'you feel that's a little too avant-garde?
No, I feel a bit stupid to be honest! Night all!
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you. Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative. Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.[/p][/quote]On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere. On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances. Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here. And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....[/p][/quote]I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion. My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment. Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.[/p][/quote]So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving? Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying? Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?[/p][/quote]It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I?? He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place. Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL. Crystal?[/p][/quote]Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?[/p][/quote]Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves. Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.[/p][/quote]No, not annoyed at all, gray is an acceptable alternative spelling these days. I don't crave attention, but the best way to avoid it is to ignor me, sorry if I rattled your cage, all I ask is that you think before you post and keep the negatives to a minimum, it upsets the morale of the troops, and they are under a great deal of stress at the moment. Get the decent new Manager in with a forward idea for us to work on and things will be OK. With or without Prima Donnas that don't want to be part of the New Order. Trust me, (I wouldn't coz I know me), it will be all right on the night.[/p][/quote]Maybe you should have said "Charcoal" Ospers,or d'you feel that's a little too avant-garde?[/p][/quote]No, I feel a bit stupid to be honest! Night all! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

10:09pm Mon 2 Jun 14

mac3696 says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
mac3696 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you.
Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative.
Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.
On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere.
On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances.
Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here.

And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....
I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion.
My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment.
Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.
So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving?
Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying?
Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?
It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I??
He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place.
Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL.
Crystal?
Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?
Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves.
Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.
No, not annoyed at all, gray is an acceptable alternative spelling these days. I don't crave attention, but the best way to avoid it is to ignor me, sorry if I rattled your cage, all I ask is that you think before you post and keep the negatives to a minimum, it upsets the morale of the troops, and they are under a great deal of stress at the moment. Get the decent new Manager in with a forward idea for us to work on and things will be OK. With or without Prima Donnas that don't want to be part of the New Order. Trust me, (I wouldn't coz I know me), it will be all right on the night.
You seem to ask a lot of people on here to do things your way but we're not all sheep I'm afraid.
Some times you might have to give up on trying to get a rise out of someone or try and convert them to "The world according to OS"
Right now would be a good time to start.
You notice I only ask, I don't demand, I am not always right but I am often on the right side of correctness, you still haven't said that you are a genuine Saints convert although you have been asked the question by others about where your loyalties lie. So come out and tell us, you are a Saints fan, and only post negatives to keep the rest of us on our toes, right?
Very argumentative Osprey tut tut. As I said earlier, J7 has made some well reasoned points on here which aren't particularly negative. Stop picking a fight and being a little patronising. Let's all allow everyone their opinions eh?

PS Gray is not an accepted spelling of the colour grey, sorry but as a teacher, I couldn't resist this one.
Gray is the American spelling...so,no good on Countdown then!
Ha, or playing scrabble...in Southampton ;)
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mac3696[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you. Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative. Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.[/p][/quote]On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere. On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances. Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here. And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....[/p][/quote]I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion. My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment. Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.[/p][/quote]So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving? Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying? Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?[/p][/quote]It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I?? He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place. Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL. Crystal?[/p][/quote]Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?[/p][/quote]Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves. Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.[/p][/quote]No, not annoyed at all, gray is an acceptable alternative spelling these days. I don't crave attention, but the best way to avoid it is to ignor me, sorry if I rattled your cage, all I ask is that you think before you post and keep the negatives to a minimum, it upsets the morale of the troops, and they are under a great deal of stress at the moment. Get the decent new Manager in with a forward idea for us to work on and things will be OK. With or without Prima Donnas that don't want to be part of the New Order. Trust me, (I wouldn't coz I know me), it will be all right on the night.[/p][/quote]You seem to ask a lot of people on here to do things your way but we're not all sheep I'm afraid. Some times you might have to give up on trying to get a rise out of someone or try and convert them to "The world according to OS" Right now would be a good time to start.[/p][/quote]You notice I only ask, I don't demand, I am not always right but I am often on the right side of correctness, you still haven't said that you are a genuine Saints convert although you have been asked the question by others about where your loyalties lie. So come out and tell us, you are a Saints fan, and only post negatives to keep the rest of us on our toes, right?[/p][/quote]Very argumentative Osprey tut tut. As I said earlier, J7 has made some well reasoned points on here which aren't particularly negative. Stop picking a fight and being a little patronising. Let's all allow everyone their opinions eh? PS Gray is not an accepted spelling of the colour grey, sorry but as a teacher, I couldn't resist this one.[/p][/quote]Gray is the American spelling...so,no good on Countdown then![/p][/quote]Ha, or playing scrabble...in Southampton ;) mac3696
  • Score: 0

10:15pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Positively4thStreet says...

mac3696 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
mac3696 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you.
Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative.
Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.
On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere.
On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances.
Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here.

And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....
I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion.
My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment.
Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.
So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving?
Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying?
Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?
It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I??
He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place.
Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL.
Crystal?
Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?
Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves.
Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.
No, not annoyed at all, gray is an acceptable alternative spelling these days. I don't crave attention, but the best way to avoid it is to ignor me, sorry if I rattled your cage, all I ask is that you think before you post and keep the negatives to a minimum, it upsets the morale of the troops, and they are under a great deal of stress at the moment. Get the decent new Manager in with a forward idea for us to work on and things will be OK. With or without Prima Donnas that don't want to be part of the New Order. Trust me, (I wouldn't coz I know me), it will be all right on the night.
You seem to ask a lot of people on here to do things your way but we're not all sheep I'm afraid.
Some times you might have to give up on trying to get a rise out of someone or try and convert them to "The world according to OS"
Right now would be a good time to start.
You notice I only ask, I don't demand, I am not always right but I am often on the right side of correctness, you still haven't said that you are a genuine Saints convert although you have been asked the question by others about where your loyalties lie. So come out and tell us, you are a Saints fan, and only post negatives to keep the rest of us on our toes, right?
Very argumentative Osprey tut tut. As I said earlier, J7 has made some well reasoned points on here which aren't particularly negative. Stop picking a fight and being a little patronising. Let's all allow everyone their opinions eh?

PS Gray is not an accepted spelling of the colour grey, sorry but as a teacher, I couldn't resist this one.
Gray is the American spelling...so,no good on Countdown then!
Ha, or playing scrabble...in Southampton ;)
It is permitted in the "ex Leeds Utd players surnames" version of the game though. ;0)
[quote][p][bold]mac3696[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mac3696[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you. Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative. Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.[/p][/quote]On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere. On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances. Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here. And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....[/p][/quote]I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion. My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment. Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.[/p][/quote]So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving? Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying? Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?[/p][/quote]It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I?? He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place. Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL. Crystal?[/p][/quote]Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?[/p][/quote]Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves. Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.[/p][/quote]No, not annoyed at all, gray is an acceptable alternative spelling these days. I don't crave attention, but the best way to avoid it is to ignor me, sorry if I rattled your cage, all I ask is that you think before you post and keep the negatives to a minimum, it upsets the morale of the troops, and they are under a great deal of stress at the moment. Get the decent new Manager in with a forward idea for us to work on and things will be OK. With or without Prima Donnas that don't want to be part of the New Order. Trust me, (I wouldn't coz I know me), it will be all right on the night.[/p][/quote]You seem to ask a lot of people on here to do things your way but we're not all sheep I'm afraid. Some times you might have to give up on trying to get a rise out of someone or try and convert them to "The world according to OS" Right now would be a good time to start.[/p][/quote]You notice I only ask, I don't demand, I am not always right but I am often on the right side of correctness, you still haven't said that you are a genuine Saints convert although you have been asked the question by others about where your loyalties lie. So come out and tell us, you are a Saints fan, and only post negatives to keep the rest of us on our toes, right?[/p][/quote]Very argumentative Osprey tut tut. As I said earlier, J7 has made some well reasoned points on here which aren't particularly negative. Stop picking a fight and being a little patronising. Let's all allow everyone their opinions eh? PS Gray is not an accepted spelling of the colour grey, sorry but as a teacher, I couldn't resist this one.[/p][/quote]Gray is the American spelling...so,no good on Countdown then![/p][/quote]Ha, or playing scrabble...in Southampton ;)[/p][/quote]It is permitted in the "ex Leeds Utd players surnames" version of the game though. ;0) Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

10:20pm Mon 2 Jun 14

J7junctionseven says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you.
Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative.
Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.
On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere.
On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances.
Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here.

And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....
I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion.
My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment.
Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.
So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving?
Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying?
Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?
It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I??
He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place.
Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL.
Crystal?
Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?
Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves.
Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.
No, not annoyed at all, gray is an acceptable alternative spelling these days. I don't crave attention, but the best way to avoid it is to ignor me, sorry if I rattled your cage, all I ask is that you think before you post and keep the negatives to a minimum, it upsets the morale of the troops, and they are under a great deal of stress at the moment. Get the decent new Manager in with a forward idea for us to work on and things will be OK. With or without Prima Donnas that don't want to be part of the New Order. Trust me, (I wouldn't coz I know me), it will be all right on the night.
You seem to ask a lot of people on here to do things your way but we're not all sheep I'm afraid.
Some times you might have to give up on trying to get a rise out of someone or try and convert them to "The world according to OS"
Right now would be a good time to start.
You notice I only ask, I don't demand, I am not always right but I am often on the right side of correctness, you still haven't said that you are a genuine Saints convert although you have been asked the question by others about where your loyalties lie. So come out and tell us, you are a Saints fan, and only post negatives to keep the rest of us on our toes, right?
I've followed Saints the length and breadth of this country all my life. My old man who's 80 this year also has a season ticket and I take him to every home game. My two sons go to as many games as they can afford home and away. I've even built an anexe at the bottom of the garden which is decorated in red white and black and has pictures of past and present Saints players on the walls. Pride of place is MLT scoring the last goal at the Dell against Arsenal.
Nobody else but you has questioned my loyalty and many who post on here know me personally.
I do not only post negatives I post comments straight from the heart which some people like you obviously can't handle or don't want to admit do bear some reasonable thought.
I may just be far more passionate about my club than you and other people like you will ever be. I don't for one minute feel that the less passionate people are any worse though so why should I get chastised by the same people?
You support Saints the way you want to and I'll continue to support them from the heart if that's ok with you
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you. Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative. Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.[/p][/quote]On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere. On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances. Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here. And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....[/p][/quote]I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion. My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment. Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.[/p][/quote]So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving? Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying? Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?[/p][/quote]It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I?? He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place. Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL. Crystal?[/p][/quote]Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?[/p][/quote]Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves. Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.[/p][/quote]No, not annoyed at all, gray is an acceptable alternative spelling these days. I don't crave attention, but the best way to avoid it is to ignor me, sorry if I rattled your cage, all I ask is that you think before you post and keep the negatives to a minimum, it upsets the morale of the troops, and they are under a great deal of stress at the moment. Get the decent new Manager in with a forward idea for us to work on and things will be OK. With or without Prima Donnas that don't want to be part of the New Order. Trust me, (I wouldn't coz I know me), it will be all right on the night.[/p][/quote]You seem to ask a lot of people on here to do things your way but we're not all sheep I'm afraid. Some times you might have to give up on trying to get a rise out of someone or try and convert them to "The world according to OS" Right now would be a good time to start.[/p][/quote]You notice I only ask, I don't demand, I am not always right but I am often on the right side of correctness, you still haven't said that you are a genuine Saints convert although you have been asked the question by others about where your loyalties lie. So come out and tell us, you are a Saints fan, and only post negatives to keep the rest of us on our toes, right?[/p][/quote]I've followed Saints the length and breadth of this country all my life. My old man who's 80 this year also has a season ticket and I take him to every home game. My two sons go to as many games as they can afford home and away. I've even built an anexe at the bottom of the garden which is decorated in red white and black and has pictures of past and present Saints players on the walls. Pride of place is MLT scoring the last goal at the Dell against Arsenal. Nobody else but you has questioned my loyalty and many who post on here know me personally. I do not only post negatives I post comments straight from the heart which some people like you obviously can't handle or don't want to admit do bear some reasonable thought. I may just be far more passionate about my club than you and other people like you will ever be. I don't for one minute feel that the less passionate people are any worse though so why should I get chastised by the same people? You support Saints the way you want to and I'll continue to support them from the heart if that's ok with you J7junctionseven
  • Score: 4

10:31pm Mon 2 Jun 14

jls217 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Golden_Salamander wrote:
upwherewebelong wrote:
stfrancisofbenali wrote:
It appears that the board have sensibly drawn a line in the sand and said no more transfer dealings until the new manager is in place. If we look at the facts, Rickie has gone in a move that none of us would have begrudged him and now the board have said nothing will be decided until the new man is appointed. Well done board and stop panicking everyone.
I still don't understand why people are saying chill out and relax and being so calm over the dismantling of our club. Krueger is IN MY OPINION in this to destroy the club he's not actually saying he and the board won't sell anyone else he's just realised if they sell anyone else so close to losing MP and RL there would justifiably be uproar. My issue is he feels NOTHING for the club or it's heritage. Yes he can spout rhetoric and is reasonably adept at propaganda but when it comes to PROOVING he actually cares about the fans our SFC where is the evidence that backs it. I never really believed i'd say this but I am beginning to ACTUALLY believe the time has come for new owners. Cortese please, please please come back you may have had faults and got some things wrong but this situation would never have happened under your watch. Bring on the thumbs down but please note I and my views are not validated over whether the other fans that care about the club support my thoughts. We all want whats best for SFC we just have very different views over how that is obtained. My view is the removal of the current board your's maybe we trust the board and well done for keeping the faith but all I ask is respect each others opinions.
Don't worry abut your views.
It has been rumoured to me that there are a number of PR agents on the various Saints web sites at the moment who are JUMPING on anybody who makes any criticism of Ralph or the board.

You will probably notice there are some new people on here recently using the "same words"," same phrases" e.g.. "give the board time". etc.. (Not all are PR agents some are from the "Anybody but Cortese" Mob )

It take me back to the Lowe v Crouch days when somebody traced the ip addresses back if I remember correctly.
It has been rumoured to me that you actually haven't a clue about what is going on and just like to stir things up, I could be wrong though.
There may be PR agents - no idea but if that's true does it give you the right to label all of us who sometimes speak and think positively about Saints as such.
I can and at some time will see something negative but right at the moment I can't see how anything negative I or others have to say is going to change the current situation in the slightest. It could be argued that nothing positive we say will matter either- maybe right. I put my faith in whoever the board bring in and I put my faith in the board and on Saturdays I put my faith in the 11 who wear the shirt. I do this because I'm intelligent enough to work out that I would be making my decisions on zero knowledge whereas the board have all the info and knowledge at their disposal and will inevitably make better informed decisions than I could and that's before we start talking about the specialist skills and training they have.
I also think you don't have any idea what is going on behind the scenes and I too could be wrong though.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stfrancisofbenali[/bold] wrote: It appears that the board have sensibly drawn a line in the sand and said no more transfer dealings until the new manager is in place. If we look at the facts, Rickie has gone in a move that none of us would have begrudged him and now the board have said nothing will be decided until the new man is appointed. Well done board and stop panicking everyone.[/p][/quote]I still don't understand why people are saying chill out and relax and being so calm over the dismantling of our club. Krueger is IN MY OPINION in this to destroy the club he's not actually saying he and the board won't sell anyone else he's just realised if they sell anyone else so close to losing MP and RL there would justifiably be uproar. My issue is he feels NOTHING for the club or it's heritage. Yes he can spout rhetoric and is reasonably adept at propaganda but when it comes to PROOVING he actually cares about the fans our SFC where is the evidence that backs it. I never really believed i'd say this but I am beginning to ACTUALLY believe the time has come for new owners. Cortese please, please please come back you may have had faults and got some things wrong but this situation would never have happened under your watch. Bring on the thumbs down but please note I and my views are not validated over whether the other fans that care about the club support my thoughts. We all want whats best for SFC we just have very different views over how that is obtained. My view is the removal of the current board your's maybe we trust the board and well done for keeping the faith but all I ask is respect each others opinions.[/p][/quote]Don't worry abut your views. It has been rumoured to me that there are a number of PR agents on the various Saints web sites at the moment who are JUMPING on anybody who makes any criticism of Ralph or the board. You will probably notice there are some new people on here recently using the "same words"," same phrases" e.g.. "give the board time". etc.. (Not all are PR agents some are from the "Anybody but Cortese" Mob ) It take me back to the Lowe v Crouch days when somebody traced the ip addresses back if I remember correctly.[/p][/quote]It has been rumoured to me that you actually haven't a clue about what is going on and just like to stir things up, I could be wrong though.[/p][/quote]There may be PR agents - no idea but if that's true does it give you the right to label all of us who sometimes speak and think positively about Saints as such. I can and at some time will see something negative but right at the moment I can't see how anything negative I or others have to say is going to change the current situation in the slightest. It could be argued that nothing positive we say will matter either- maybe right. I put my faith in whoever the board bring in and I put my faith in the board and on Saturdays I put my faith in the 11 who wear the shirt. I do this because I'm intelligent enough to work out that I would be making my decisions on zero knowledge whereas the board have all the info and knowledge at their disposal and will inevitably make better informed decisions than I could and that's before we start talking about the specialist skills and training they have. I also think you don't have any idea what is going on behind the scenes and I too could be wrong though. jls217
  • Score: 1

10:40pm Mon 2 Jun 14

jls217 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Golden_Salamander wrote:
upwherewebelong wrote:
stfrancisofbenali wrote:
It appears that the board have sensibly drawn a line in the sand and said no more transfer dealings until the new manager is in place. If we look at the facts, Rickie has gone in a move that none of us would have begrudged him and now the board have said nothing will be decided until the new man is appointed. Well done board and stop panicking everyone.
I still don't understand why people are saying chill out and relax and being so calm over the dismantling of our club. Krueger is IN MY OPINION in this to destroy the club he's not actually saying he and the board won't sell anyone else he's just realised if they sell anyone else so close to losing MP and RL there would justifiably be uproar. My issue is he feels NOTHING for the club or it's heritage. Yes he can spout rhetoric and is reasonably adept at propaganda but when it comes to PROOVING he actually cares about the fans our SFC where is the evidence that backs it. I never really believed i'd say this but I am beginning to ACTUALLY believe the time has come for new owners. Cortese please, please please come back you may have had faults and got some things wrong but this situation would never have happened under your watch. Bring on the thumbs down but please note I and my views are not validated over whether the other fans that care about the club support my thoughts. We all want whats best for SFC we just have very different views over how that is obtained. My view is the removal of the current board your's maybe we trust the board and well done for keeping the faith but all I ask is respect each others opinions.
Don't worry abut your views.
It has been rumoured to me that there are a number of PR agents on the various Saints web sites at the moment who are JUMPING on anybody who makes any criticism of Ralph or the board.

You will probably notice there are some new people on here recently using the "same words"," same phrases" e.g.. "give the board time". etc.. (Not all are PR agents some are from the "Anybody but Cortese" Mob )

It take me back to the Lowe v Crouch days when somebody traced the ip addresses back if I remember correctly.
It has been rumoured to me that you actually haven't a clue about what is going on and just like to stir things up, I could be wrong though.
Well according to the BBC news Adam is about to put this to the test as they've reported he has requested a transfer.

Hope it's just media BS but sounds as though the ante has just been upped
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stfrancisofbenali[/bold] wrote: It appears that the board have sensibly drawn a line in the sand and said no more transfer dealings until the new manager is in place. If we look at the facts, Rickie has gone in a move that none of us would have begrudged him and now the board have said nothing will be decided until the new man is appointed. Well done board and stop panicking everyone.[/p][/quote]I still don't understand why people are saying chill out and relax and being so calm over the dismantling of our club. Krueger is IN MY OPINION in this to destroy the club he's not actually saying he and the board won't sell anyone else he's just realised if they sell anyone else so close to losing MP and RL there would justifiably be uproar. My issue is he feels NOTHING for the club or it's heritage. Yes he can spout rhetoric and is reasonably adept at propaganda but when it comes to PROOVING he actually cares about the fans our SFC where is the evidence that backs it. I never really believed i'd say this but I am beginning to ACTUALLY believe the time has come for new owners. Cortese please, please please come back you may have had faults and got some things wrong but this situation would never have happened under your watch. Bring on the thumbs down but please note I and my views are not validated over whether the other fans that care about the club support my thoughts. We all want whats best for SFC we just have very different views over how that is obtained. My view is the removal of the current board your's maybe we trust the board and well done for keeping the faith but all I ask is respect each others opinions.[/p][/quote]Don't worry abut your views. It has been rumoured to me that there are a number of PR agents on the various Saints web sites at the moment who are JUMPING on anybody who makes any criticism of Ralph or the board. You will probably notice there are some new people on here recently using the "same words"," same phrases" e.g.. "give the board time". etc.. (Not all are PR agents some are from the "Anybody but Cortese" Mob ) It take me back to the Lowe v Crouch days when somebody traced the ip addresses back if I remember correctly.[/p][/quote]It has been rumoured to me that you actually haven't a clue about what is going on and just like to stir things up, I could be wrong though.[/p][/quote]Well according to the BBC news Adam is about to put this to the test as they've reported he has requested a transfer. Hope it's just media BS but sounds as though the ante has just been upped jls217
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10:45pm Mon 2 Jun 14

mac3696 says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
mac3696 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
mac3696 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you.
Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative.
Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.
On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere.
On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances.
Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here.

And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....
I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion.
My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment.
Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.
So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving?
Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying?
Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?
It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I??
He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place.
Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL.
Crystal?
Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?
Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves.
Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.
No, not annoyed at all, gray is an acceptable alternative spelling these days. I don't crave attention, but the best way to avoid it is to ignor me, sorry if I rattled your cage, all I ask is that you think before you post and keep the negatives to a minimum, it upsets the morale of the troops, and they are under a great deal of stress at the moment. Get the decent new Manager in with a forward idea for us to work on and things will be OK. With or without Prima Donnas that don't want to be part of the New Order. Trust me, (I wouldn't coz I know me), it will be all right on the night.
You seem to ask a lot of people on here to do things your way but we're not all sheep I'm afraid.
Some times you might have to give up on trying to get a rise out of someone or try and convert them to "The world according to OS"
Right now would be a good time to start.
You notice I only ask, I don't demand, I am not always right but I am often on the right side of correctness, you still haven't said that you are a genuine Saints convert although you have been asked the question by others about where your loyalties lie. So come out and tell us, you are a Saints fan, and only post negatives to keep the rest of us on our toes, right?
Very argumentative Osprey tut tut. As I said earlier, J7 has made some well reasoned points on here which aren't particularly negative. Stop picking a fight and being a little patronising. Let's all allow everyone their opinions eh?

PS Gray is not an accepted spelling of the colour grey, sorry but as a teacher, I couldn't resist this one.
Gray is the American spelling...so,no good on Countdown then!
Ha, or playing scrabble...in Southampton ;)
It is permitted in the "ex Leeds Utd players surnames" version of the game though. ;0)
Only in exceptional circumstances ;)
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mac3696[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mac3696[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you. Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative. Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.[/p][/quote]On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere. On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances. Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here. And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....[/p][/quote]I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion. My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment. Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.[/p][/quote]So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving? Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying? Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?[/p][/quote]It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I?? He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place. Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL. Crystal?[/p][/quote]Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?[/p][/quote]Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves. Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.[/p][/quote]No, not annoyed at all, gray is an acceptable alternative spelling these days. I don't crave attention, but the best way to avoid it is to ignor me, sorry if I rattled your cage, all I ask is that you think before you post and keep the negatives to a minimum, it upsets the morale of the troops, and they are under a great deal of stress at the moment. Get the decent new Manager in with a forward idea for us to work on and things will be OK. With or without Prima Donnas that don't want to be part of the New Order. Trust me, (I wouldn't coz I know me), it will be all right on the night.[/p][/quote]You seem to ask a lot of people on here to do things your way but we're not all sheep I'm afraid. Some times you might have to give up on trying to get a rise out of someone or try and convert them to "The world according to OS" Right now would be a good time to start.[/p][/quote]You notice I only ask, I don't demand, I am not always right but I am often on the right side of correctness, you still haven't said that you are a genuine Saints convert although you have been asked the question by others about where your loyalties lie. So come out and tell us, you are a Saints fan, and only post negatives to keep the rest of us on our toes, right?[/p][/quote]Very argumentative Osprey tut tut. As I said earlier, J7 has made some well reasoned points on here which aren't particularly negative. Stop picking a fight and being a little patronising. Let's all allow everyone their opinions eh? PS Gray is not an accepted spelling of the colour grey, sorry but as a teacher, I couldn't resist this one.[/p][/quote]Gray is the American spelling...so,no good on Countdown then![/p][/quote]Ha, or playing scrabble...in Southampton ;)[/p][/quote]It is permitted in the "ex Leeds Utd players surnames" version of the game though. ;0)[/p][/quote]Only in exceptional circumstances ;) mac3696
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10:58pm Mon 2 Jun 14

knuckle dragger says...

Lallana wants to leave after world cup!

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/football/27
674609
Lallana wants to leave after world cup! http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/27 674609 knuckle dragger
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11:00pm Mon 2 Jun 14

J7junctionseven says...

jls217 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Golden_Salamander wrote:
upwherewebelong wrote:
stfrancisofbenali wrote:
It appears that the board have sensibly drawn a line in the sand and said no more transfer dealings until the new manager is in place. If we look at the facts, Rickie has gone in a move that none of us would have begrudged him and now the board have said nothing will be decided until the new man is appointed. Well done board and stop panicking everyone.
I still don't understand why people are saying chill out and relax and being so calm over the dismantling of our club. Krueger is IN MY OPINION in this to destroy the club he's not actually saying he and the board won't sell anyone else he's just realised if they sell anyone else so close to losing MP and RL there would justifiably be uproar. My issue is he feels NOTHING for the club or it's heritage. Yes he can spout rhetoric and is reasonably adept at propaganda but when it comes to PROOVING he actually cares about the fans our SFC where is the evidence that backs it. I never really believed i'd say this but I am beginning to ACTUALLY believe the time has come for new owners. Cortese please, please please come back you may have had faults and got some things wrong but this situation would never have happened under your watch. Bring on the thumbs down but please note I and my views are not validated over whether the other fans that care about the club support my thoughts. We all want whats best for SFC we just have very different views over how that is obtained. My view is the removal of the current board your's maybe we trust the board and well done for keeping the faith but all I ask is respect each others opinions.
Don't worry abut your views.
It has been rumoured to me that there are a number of PR agents on the various Saints web sites at the moment who are JUMPING on anybody who makes any criticism of Ralph or the board.

You will probably notice there are some new people on here recently using the "same words"," same phrases" e.g.. "give the board time". etc.. (Not all are PR agents some are from the "Anybody but Cortese" Mob )

It take me back to the Lowe v Crouch days when somebody traced the ip addresses back if I remember correctly.
It has been rumoured to me that you actually haven't a clue about what is going on and just like to stir things up, I could be wrong though.
Well according to the BBC news Adam is about to put this to the test as they've reported he has requested a transfer.

Hope it's just media BS but sounds as though the ante has just been upped
From the BBC
Southampton captain Adam Lallana has told the club he wants to be allowed to leave St Mary's when he returns from the World Cup in Brazil.
The midfielder has not put in a transfer request but has made his feelings known to Southampton.

Let's hope England get at least as far as the quarter finals so we can keep him for a few more weeks and possibly get more money for Bournemouth.........
....................
...........and Saints of course.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stfrancisofbenali[/bold] wrote: It appears that the board have sensibly drawn a line in the sand and said no more transfer dealings until the new manager is in place. If we look at the facts, Rickie has gone in a move that none of us would have begrudged him and now the board have said nothing will be decided until the new man is appointed. Well done board and stop panicking everyone.[/p][/quote]I still don't understand why people are saying chill out and relax and being so calm over the dismantling of our club. Krueger is IN MY OPINION in this to destroy the club he's not actually saying he and the board won't sell anyone else he's just realised if they sell anyone else so close to losing MP and RL there would justifiably be uproar. My issue is he feels NOTHING for the club or it's heritage. Yes he can spout rhetoric and is reasonably adept at propaganda but when it comes to PROOVING he actually cares about the fans our SFC where is the evidence that backs it. I never really believed i'd say this but I am beginning to ACTUALLY believe the time has come for new owners. Cortese please, please please come back you may have had faults and got some things wrong but this situation would never have happened under your watch. Bring on the thumbs down but please note I and my views are not validated over whether the other fans that care about the club support my thoughts. We all want whats best for SFC we just have very different views over how that is obtained. My view is the removal of the current board your's maybe we trust the board and well done for keeping the faith but all I ask is respect each others opinions.[/p][/quote]Don't worry abut your views. It has been rumoured to me that there are a number of PR agents on the various Saints web sites at the moment who are JUMPING on anybody who makes any criticism of Ralph or the board. You will probably notice there are some new people on here recently using the "same words"," same phrases" e.g.. "give the board time". etc.. (Not all are PR agents some are from the "Anybody but Cortese" Mob ) It take me back to the Lowe v Crouch days when somebody traced the ip addresses back if I remember correctly.[/p][/quote]It has been rumoured to me that you actually haven't a clue about what is going on and just like to stir things up, I could be wrong though.[/p][/quote]Well according to the BBC news Adam is about to put this to the test as they've reported he has requested a transfer. Hope it's just media BS but sounds as though the ante has just been upped[/p][/quote]From the BBC Southampton captain Adam Lallana has told the club he wants to be allowed to leave St Mary's when he returns from the World Cup in Brazil. The midfielder has not put in a transfer request but has made his feelings known to Southampton. Let's hope England get at least as far as the quarter finals so we can keep him for a few more weeks and possibly get more money for Bournemouth......... .................... ...........and Saints of course. J7junctionseven
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11:04pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Clever Dick says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
mac3696 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
mac3696 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you.
Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative.
Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.
On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere.
On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances.
Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here.

And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....
I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion.
My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment.
Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.
So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving?
Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying?
Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?
It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I??
He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place.
Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL.
Crystal?
Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?
Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves.
Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.
No, not annoyed at all, gray is an acceptable alternative spelling these days. I don't crave attention, but the best way to avoid it is to ignor me, sorry if I rattled your cage, all I ask is that you think before you post and keep the negatives to a minimum, it upsets the morale of the troops, and they are under a great deal of stress at the moment. Get the decent new Manager in with a forward idea for us to work on and things will be OK. With or without Prima Donnas that don't want to be part of the New Order. Trust me, (I wouldn't coz I know me), it will be all right on the night.
You seem to ask a lot of people on here to do things your way but we're not all sheep I'm afraid.
Some times you might have to give up on trying to get a rise out of someone or try and convert them to "The world according to OS"
Right now would be a good time to start.
You notice I only ask, I don't demand, I am not always right but I am often on the right side of correctness, you still haven't said that you are a genuine Saints convert although you have been asked the question by others about where your loyalties lie. So come out and tell us, you are a Saints fan, and only post negatives to keep the rest of us on our toes, right?
Very argumentative Osprey tut tut. As I said earlier, J7 has made some well reasoned points on here which aren't particularly negative. Stop picking a fight and being a little patronising. Let's all allow everyone their opinions eh?

PS Gray is not an accepted spelling of the colour grey, sorry but as a teacher, I couldn't resist this one.
Gray is the American spelling...so,no good on Countdown then!
Ha, or playing scrabble...in Southampton ;)
It is permitted in the "ex Leeds Utd players surnames" version of the game though. ;0)
Don't know why I bothered but just looked it up in the Oxford dictionary and it is an acceptable spelling.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mac3696[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mac3696[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you. Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative. Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.[/p][/quote]On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere. On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances. Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here. And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....[/p][/quote]I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion. My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment. Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.[/p][/quote]So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving? Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying? Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?[/p][/quote]It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I?? He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place. Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL. Crystal?[/p][/quote]Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?[/p][/quote]Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves. Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.[/p][/quote]No, not annoyed at all, gray is an acceptable alternative spelling these days. I don't crave attention, but the best way to avoid it is to ignor me, sorry if I rattled your cage, all I ask is that you think before you post and keep the negatives to a minimum, it upsets the morale of the troops, and they are under a great deal of stress at the moment. Get the decent new Manager in with a forward idea for us to work on and things will be OK. With or without Prima Donnas that don't want to be part of the New Order. Trust me, (I wouldn't coz I know me), it will be all right on the night.[/p][/quote]You seem to ask a lot of people on here to do things your way but we're not all sheep I'm afraid. Some times you might have to give up on trying to get a rise out of someone or try and convert them to "The world according to OS" Right now would be a good time to start.[/p][/quote]You notice I only ask, I don't demand, I am not always right but I am often on the right side of correctness, you still haven't said that you are a genuine Saints convert although you have been asked the question by others about where your loyalties lie. So come out and tell us, you are a Saints fan, and only post negatives to keep the rest of us on our toes, right?[/p][/quote]Very argumentative Osprey tut tut. As I said earlier, J7 has made some well reasoned points on here which aren't particularly negative. Stop picking a fight and being a little patronising. Let's all allow everyone their opinions eh? PS Gray is not an accepted spelling of the colour grey, sorry but as a teacher, I couldn't resist this one.[/p][/quote]Gray is the American spelling...so,no good on Countdown then![/p][/quote]Ha, or playing scrabble...in Southampton ;)[/p][/quote]It is permitted in the "ex Leeds Utd players surnames" version of the game though. ;0)[/p][/quote]Don't know why I bothered but just looked it up in the Oxford dictionary and it is an acceptable spelling. Clever Dick
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11:09pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Clever Dick says...

jls217 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Golden_Salamander wrote:
upwherewebelong wrote:
stfrancisofbenali wrote:
It appears that the board have sensibly drawn a line in the sand and said no more transfer dealings until the new manager is in place. If we look at the facts, Rickie has gone in a move that none of us would have begrudged him and now the board have said nothing will be decided until the new man is appointed. Well done board and stop panicking everyone.
I still don't understand why people are saying chill out and relax and being so calm over the dismantling of our club. Krueger is IN MY OPINION in this to destroy the club he's not actually saying he and the board won't sell anyone else he's just realised if they sell anyone else so close to losing MP and RL there would justifiably be uproar. My issue is he feels NOTHING for the club or it's heritage. Yes he can spout rhetoric and is reasonably adept at propaganda but when it comes to PROOVING he actually cares about the fans our SFC where is the evidence that backs it. I never really believed i'd say this but I am beginning to ACTUALLY believe the time has come for new owners. Cortese please, please please come back you may have had faults and got some things wrong but this situation would never have happened under your watch. Bring on the thumbs down but please note I and my views are not validated over whether the other fans that care about the club support my thoughts. We all want whats best for SFC we just have very different views over how that is obtained. My view is the removal of the current board your's maybe we trust the board and well done for keeping the faith but all I ask is respect each others opinions.
Don't worry abut your views.
It has been rumoured to me that there are a number of PR agents on the various Saints web sites at the moment who are JUMPING on anybody who makes any criticism of Ralph or the board.

You will probably notice there are some new people on here recently using the "same words"," same phrases" e.g.. "give the board time". etc.. (Not all are PR agents some are from the "Anybody but Cortese" Mob )

It take me back to the Lowe v Crouch days when somebody traced the ip addresses back if I remember correctly.
It has been rumoured to me that you actually haven't a clue about what is going on and just like to stir things up, I could be wrong though.
Well according to the BBC news Adam is about to put this to the test as they've reported he has requested a transfer.

Hope it's just media BS but sounds as though the ante has just been upped
Not really. If all the rumours are actually true that we are holding out for £30 million then it matters not if he has asked for a transfer. Seems pretty simple to me. If the northern thieves want him then the price is £30 million.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stfrancisofbenali[/bold] wrote: It appears that the board have sensibly drawn a line in the sand and said no more transfer dealings until the new manager is in place. If we look at the facts, Rickie has gone in a move that none of us would have begrudged him and now the board have said nothing will be decided until the new man is appointed. Well done board and stop panicking everyone.[/p][/quote]I still don't understand why people are saying chill out and relax and being so calm over the dismantling of our club. Krueger is IN MY OPINION in this to destroy the club he's not actually saying he and the board won't sell anyone else he's just realised if they sell anyone else so close to losing MP and RL there would justifiably be uproar. My issue is he feels NOTHING for the club or it's heritage. Yes he can spout rhetoric and is reasonably adept at propaganda but when it comes to PROOVING he actually cares about the fans our SFC where is the evidence that backs it. I never really believed i'd say this but I am beginning to ACTUALLY believe the time has come for new owners. Cortese please, please please come back you may have had faults and got some things wrong but this situation would never have happened under your watch. Bring on the thumbs down but please note I and my views are not validated over whether the other fans that care about the club support my thoughts. We all want whats best for SFC we just have very different views over how that is obtained. My view is the removal of the current board your's maybe we trust the board and well done for keeping the faith but all I ask is respect each others opinions.[/p][/quote]Don't worry abut your views. It has been rumoured to me that there are a number of PR agents on the various Saints web sites at the moment who are JUMPING on anybody who makes any criticism of Ralph or the board. You will probably notice there are some new people on here recently using the "same words"," same phrases" e.g.. "give the board time". etc.. (Not all are PR agents some are from the "Anybody but Cortese" Mob ) It take me back to the Lowe v Crouch days when somebody traced the ip addresses back if I remember correctly.[/p][/quote]It has been rumoured to me that you actually haven't a clue about what is going on and just like to stir things up, I could be wrong though.[/p][/quote]Well according to the BBC news Adam is about to put this to the test as they've reported he has requested a transfer. Hope it's just media BS but sounds as though the ante has just been upped[/p][/quote]Not really. If all the rumours are actually true that we are holding out for £30 million then it matters not if he has asked for a transfer. Seems pretty simple to me. If the northern thieves want him then the price is £30 million. Clever Dick
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11:10pm Mon 2 Jun 14

jls217 says...

Is this a football forum or have I stumbled on Gove's forum through error.

Lallana is reported on the BBC as having asked for transfer talks when he get back and we are faced with an argument over how to spell grey/gray - both are correct for crying out loud and Adam has asked to leave now what is more important than that?

(apart of course from the decision to give him permission to go)
Is this a football forum or have I stumbled on Gove's forum through error. Lallana is reported on the BBC as having asked for transfer talks when he get back and we are faced with an argument over how to spell grey/gray - both are correct for crying out loud and Adam has asked to leave now what is more important than that? (apart of course from the decision to give him permission to go) jls217
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11:19pm Mon 2 Jun 14

mac3696 says...

jls217 wrote:
Is this a football forum or have I stumbled on Gove's forum through error.

Lallana is reported on the BBC as having asked for transfer talks when he get back and we are faced with an argument over how to spell grey/gray - both are correct for crying out loud and Adam has asked to leave now what is more important than that?

(apart of course from the decision to give him permission to go)
Just trying to lighten the mood a little ;) consider my wrists slapped ..... Need some way to stop the tears from falling over the possible Captain Adz situation.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Is this a football forum or have I stumbled on Gove's forum through error. Lallana is reported on the BBC as having asked for transfer talks when he get back and we are faced with an argument over how to spell grey/gray - both are correct for crying out loud and Adam has asked to leave now what is more important than that? (apart of course from the decision to give him permission to go)[/p][/quote]Just trying to lighten the mood a little ;) consider my wrists slapped ..... Need some way to stop the tears from falling over the possible Captain Adz situation. mac3696
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11:24pm Mon 2 Jun 14

upwherewebelong says...

knuckle dragger wrote:
Lallana wants to leave after world cup!

http://www.bbc.co.uk

/sport/0/football/27

674609
What an ungrateful muppet . Next season will be horrible under this passionless board. Think the time is nigh for protests at st Mary's to show them what we think. A new manager might stem the tide but I fear the board have left it too long
[quote][p][bold]knuckle dragger[/bold] wrote: Lallana wants to leave after world cup! http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/27 674609[/p][/quote]What an ungrateful muppet . Next season will be horrible under this passionless board. Think the time is nigh for protests at st Mary's to show them what we think. A new manager might stem the tide but I fear the board have left it too long upwherewebelong
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11:28pm Mon 2 Jun 14

search for the truth says...

Quote by Clever Dick


Not really. If all the rumours are actually true that we are holding out for £30 million then it matters not if he has asked for a transfer. Seems pretty simple to me. If the northern thieves want him then the price is £30 million.

----

Mind your language, the clubs interested in your players are not thieves and neither are people who live up north.
Both these players are interested in furthering their careers, Lallana wanting to play in the champions league.

Nobody is stealing anything from anybody, whether you like it or not in the world of professional football, players change clubs all the time.
Quote by Clever Dick Not really. If all the rumours are actually true that we are holding out for £30 million then it matters not if he has asked for a transfer. Seems pretty simple to me. If the northern thieves want him then the price is £30 million. ---- Mind your language, the clubs interested in your players are not thieves and neither are people who live up north. Both these players are interested in furthering their careers, Lallana wanting to play in the champions league. Nobody is stealing anything from anybody, whether you like it or not in the world of professional football, players change clubs all the time. search for the truth
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11:31pm Mon 2 Jun 14

el caballo santos101 says...

jls217 wrote:
Is this a football forum or have I stumbled on Gove's forum through error.

Lallana is reported on the BBC as having asked for transfer talks when he get back and we are faced with an argument over how to spell grey/gray - both are correct for crying out loud and Adam has asked to leave now what is more important than that?

(apart of course from the decision to give him permission to go)
its not news though, its been reported in the Liverpool echo piece about their chase of him and several other articles. all thats been said though is that he `wants to leave`. where his source has come from no e seems to know. if he really wants to go then he can put in a transfer request! however as clever dick says it makes no difference because the club could just say no or if their valuation of him isn't met they aren't going to sell him anyway.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Is this a football forum or have I stumbled on Gove's forum through error. Lallana is reported on the BBC as having asked for transfer talks when he get back and we are faced with an argument over how to spell grey/gray - both are correct for crying out loud and Adam has asked to leave now what is more important than that? (apart of course from the decision to give him permission to go)[/p][/quote]its not news though, its been reported in the Liverpool echo piece about their chase of him and several other articles. all thats been said though is that he `wants to leave`. where his source has come from no e seems to know. if he really wants to go then he can put in a transfer request! however as clever dick says it makes no difference because the club could just say no or if their valuation of him isn't met they aren't going to sell him anyway. el caballo santos101
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11:43pm Mon 2 Jun 14

mac3696 says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
mac3696 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
mac3696 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you.
Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative.
Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.
On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere.
On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances.
Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here.

And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....
I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion.
My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment.
Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.
So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving?
Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying?
Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?
It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I??
He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place.
Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL.
Crystal?
Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?
Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves.
Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.
No, not annoyed at all, gray is an acceptable alternative spelling these days. I don't crave attention, but the best way to avoid it is to ignor me, sorry if I rattled your cage, all I ask is that you think before you post and keep the negatives to a minimum, it upsets the morale of the troops, and they are under a great deal of stress at the moment. Get the decent new Manager in with a forward idea for us to work on and things will be OK. With or without Prima Donnas that don't want to be part of the New Order. Trust me, (I wouldn't coz I know me), it will be all right on the night.
You seem to ask a lot of people on here to do things your way but we're not all sheep I'm afraid.
Some times you might have to give up on trying to get a rise out of someone or try and convert them to "The world according to OS"
Right now would be a good time to start.
You notice I only ask, I don't demand, I am not always right but I am often on the right side of correctness, you still haven't said that you are a genuine Saints convert although you have been asked the question by others about where your loyalties lie. So come out and tell us, you are a Saints fan, and only post negatives to keep the rest of us on our toes, right?
Very argumentative Osprey tut tut. As I said earlier, J7 has made some well reasoned points on here which aren't particularly negative. Stop picking a fight and being a little patronising. Let's all allow everyone their opinions eh?

PS Gray is not an accepted spelling of the colour grey, sorry but as a teacher, I couldn't resist this one.
Gray is the American spelling...so,no good on Countdown then!
Ha, or playing scrabble...in Southampton ;)
It is permitted in the "ex Leeds Utd players surnames" version of the game though. ;0)
Don't know why I bothered but just looked it up in the Oxford dictionary and it is an acceptable spelling.
Nooo, ruining my fun haha, still only the American accepted spelling....but enough of this I think ;)
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mac3696[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mac3696[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you. Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative. Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.[/p][/quote]On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere. On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances. Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here. And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....[/p][/quote]I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion. My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment. Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.[/p][/quote]So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving? Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying? Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?[/p][/quote]It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I?? He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place. Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL. Crystal?[/p][/quote]Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?[/p][/quote]Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves. Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.[/p][/quote]No, not annoyed at all, gray is an acceptable alternative spelling these days. I don't crave attention, but the best way to avoid it is to ignor me, sorry if I rattled your cage, all I ask is that you think before you post and keep the negatives to a minimum, it upsets the morale of the troops, and they are under a great deal of stress at the moment. Get the decent new Manager in with a forward idea for us to work on and things will be OK. With or without Prima Donnas that don't want to be part of the New Order. Trust me, (I wouldn't coz I know me), it will be all right on the night.[/p][/quote]You seem to ask a lot of people on here to do things your way but we're not all sheep I'm afraid. Some times you might have to give up on trying to get a rise out of someone or try and convert them to "The world according to OS" Right now would be a good time to start.[/p][/quote]You notice I only ask, I don't demand, I am not always right but I am often on the right side of correctness, you still haven't said that you are a genuine Saints convert although you have been asked the question by others about where your loyalties lie. So come out and tell us, you are a Saints fan, and only post negatives to keep the rest of us on our toes, right?[/p][/quote]Very argumentative Osprey tut tut. As I said earlier, J7 has made some well reasoned points on here which aren't particularly negative. Stop picking a fight and being a little patronising. Let's all allow everyone their opinions eh? PS Gray is not an accepted spelling of the colour grey, sorry but as a teacher, I couldn't resist this one.[/p][/quote]Gray is the American spelling...so,no good on Countdown then![/p][/quote]Ha, or playing scrabble...in Southampton ;)[/p][/quote]It is permitted in the "ex Leeds Utd players surnames" version of the game though. ;0)[/p][/quote]Don't know why I bothered but just looked it up in the Oxford dictionary and it is an acceptable spelling.[/p][/quote]Nooo, ruining my fun haha, still only the American accepted spelling....but enough of this I think ;) mac3696
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11:59pm Mon 2 Jun 14

el caballo santos101 says...

by the way this `lalla has asked to leave` article, has anyone seen whos written it? that's right its the one and only Ben Smith, yes that right Ben Smith! the same Ben Smith who has written several pro NC articles and has ust come back from doing a lovely interview the NC again, the same interview where NC was made to look like southamptons messiah in which he claimed `this wouldn't have happened if I was in charge`. not saying where Ben Smith has got his interview from but it makes you think doesn't I!
by the way this `lalla has asked to leave` article, has anyone seen whos written it? that's right its the one and only Ben Smith, yes that right Ben Smith! the same Ben Smith who has written several pro NC articles and has ust come back from doing a lovely interview the NC again, the same interview where NC was made to look like southamptons messiah in which he claimed `this wouldn't have happened if I was in charge`. not saying where Ben Smith has got his interview from but it makes you think doesn't I! el caballo santos101
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12:14am Tue 3 Jun 14

Positively4thStreet says...

mac3696 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
mac3696 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
mac3696 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you.
Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative.
Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.
On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere.
On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances.
Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here.

And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....
I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion.
My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment.
Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.
So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving?
Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying?
Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?
It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I??
He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place.
Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL.
Crystal?
Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?
Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves.
Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.
No, not annoyed at all, gray is an acceptable alternative spelling these days. I don't crave attention, but the best way to avoid it is to ignor me, sorry if I rattled your cage, all I ask is that you think before you post and keep the negatives to a minimum, it upsets the morale of the troops, and they are under a great deal of stress at the moment. Get the decent new Manager in with a forward idea for us to work on and things will be OK. With or without Prima Donnas that don't want to be part of the New Order. Trust me, (I wouldn't coz I know me), it will be all right on the night.
You seem to ask a lot of people on here to do things your way but we're not all sheep I'm afraid.
Some times you might have to give up on trying to get a rise out of someone or try and convert them to "The world according to OS"
Right now would be a good time to start.
You notice I only ask, I don't demand, I am not always right but I am often on the right side of correctness, you still haven't said that you are a genuine Saints convert although you have been asked the question by others about where your loyalties lie. So come out and tell us, you are a Saints fan, and only post negatives to keep the rest of us on our toes, right?
Very argumentative Osprey tut tut. As I said earlier, J7 has made some well reasoned points on here which aren't particularly negative. Stop picking a fight and being a little patronising. Let's all allow everyone their opinions eh?

PS Gray is not an accepted spelling of the colour grey, sorry but as a teacher, I couldn't resist this one.
Gray is the American spelling...so,no good on Countdown then!
Ha, or playing scrabble...in Southampton ;)
It is permitted in the "ex Leeds Utd players surnames" version of the game though. ;0)
Don't know why I bothered but just looked it up in the Oxford dictionary and it is an acceptable spelling.
Nooo, ruining my fun haha, still only the American accepted spelling....but enough of this I think ;)
Yeah leave it..its a grey area,and on top of that, Search for the Truth is getting frustrated by all the New Comment emails he/she keeps getting,that have nothing to do with football either.
[quote][p][bold]mac3696[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mac3696[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mac3696[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you. Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative. Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.[/p][/quote]On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere. On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances. Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here. And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....[/p][/quote]I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion. My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment. Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.[/p][/quote]So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving? Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying? Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?[/p][/quote]It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I?? He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place. Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL. Crystal?[/p][/quote]Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?[/p][/quote]Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves. Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.[/p][/quote]No, not annoyed at all, gray is an acceptable alternative spelling these days. I don't crave attention, but the best way to avoid it is to ignor me, sorry if I rattled your cage, all I ask is that you think before you post and keep the negatives to a minimum, it upsets the morale of the troops, and they are under a great deal of stress at the moment. Get the decent new Manager in with a forward idea for us to work on and things will be OK. With or without Prima Donnas that don't want to be part of the New Order. Trust me, (I wouldn't coz I know me), it will be all right on the night.[/p][/quote]You seem to ask a lot of people on here to do things your way but we're not all sheep I'm afraid. Some times you might have to give up on trying to get a rise out of someone or try and convert them to "The world according to OS" Right now would be a good time to start.[/p][/quote]You notice I only ask, I don't demand, I am not always right but I am often on the right side of correctness, you still haven't said that you are a genuine Saints convert although you have been asked the question by others about where your loyalties lie. So come out and tell us, you are a Saints fan, and only post negatives to keep the rest of us on our toes, right?[/p][/quote]Very argumentative Osprey tut tut. As I said earlier, J7 has made some well reasoned points on here which aren't particularly negative. Stop picking a fight and being a little patronising. Let's all allow everyone their opinions eh? PS Gray is not an accepted spelling of the colour grey, sorry but as a teacher, I couldn't resist this one.[/p][/quote]Gray is the American spelling...so,no good on Countdown then![/p][/quote]Ha, or playing scrabble...in Southampton ;)[/p][/quote]It is permitted in the "ex Leeds Utd players surnames" version of the game though. ;0)[/p][/quote]Don't know why I bothered but just looked it up in the Oxford dictionary and it is an acceptable spelling.[/p][/quote]Nooo, ruining my fun haha, still only the American accepted spelling....but enough of this I think ;)[/p][/quote]Yeah leave it..its a grey area,and on top of that, Search for the Truth is getting frustrated by all the New Comment emails he/she keeps getting,that have nothing to do with football either. Positively4thStreet
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3:11am Tue 3 Jun 14

Galapagos Saint says...

Did anyone see JWP showing the Brazilians how to take free-kicks. Unbeliveable tekkers!
Did anyone see JWP showing the Brazilians how to take free-kicks. Unbeliveable tekkers! Galapagos Saint
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4:57am Tue 3 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

Golden_Salamander wrote:
upwherewebelong wrote:
stfrancisofbenali wrote:
It appears that the board have sensibly drawn a line in the sand and said no more transfer dealings until the new manager is in place. If we look at the facts, Rickie has gone in a move that none of us would have begrudged him and now the board have said nothing will be decided until the new man is appointed. Well done board and stop panicking everyone.
I still don't understand why people are saying chill out and relax and being so calm over the dismantling of our club. Krueger is IN MY OPINION in this to destroy the club he's not actually saying he and the board won't sell anyone else he's just realised if they sell anyone else so close to losing MP and RL there would justifiably be uproar. My issue is he feels NOTHING for the club or it's heritage. Yes he can spout rhetoric and is reasonably adept at propaganda but when it comes to PROOVING he actually cares about the fans our SFC where is the evidence that backs it. I never really believed i'd say this but I am beginning to ACTUALLY believe the time has come for new owners. Cortese please, please please come back you may have had faults and got some things wrong but this situation would never have happened under your watch. Bring on the thumbs down but please note I and my views are not validated over whether the other fans that care about the club support my thoughts. We all want whats best for SFC we just have very different views over how that is obtained. My view is the removal of the current board your's maybe we trust the board and well done for keeping the faith but all I ask is respect each others opinions.
Don't worry abut your views.
It has been rumoured to me that there are a number of PR agents on the various Saints web sites at the moment who are JUMPING on anybody who makes any criticism of Ralph or the board.

You will probably notice there are some new people on here recently using the "same words"," same phrases" e.g.. "give the board time". etc.. (Not all are PR agents some are from the "Anybody but Cortese" Mob )

It take me back to the Lowe v Crouch days when somebody traced the ip addresses back if I remember correctly.
Isn't just as likely that 'there are a number of PR agents on the various web sites at the moment who are JUMPING on anybody who makes any' comment that is positive or non-judgemental about 'Ralph or the board. You will probably notice there are some new people on here recently using the "same words"," same phrases" e.g..' "asset stripping". 'etc..'

BTW, agentless passives are a very handy device for avoiding responsibility for what you say. Who exactly are these things being rumoured to you by?
[quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stfrancisofbenali[/bold] wrote: It appears that the board have sensibly drawn a line in the sand and said no more transfer dealings until the new manager is in place. If we look at the facts, Rickie has gone in a move that none of us would have begrudged him and now the board have said nothing will be decided until the new man is appointed. Well done board and stop panicking everyone.[/p][/quote]I still don't understand why people are saying chill out and relax and being so calm over the dismantling of our club. Krueger is IN MY OPINION in this to destroy the club he's not actually saying he and the board won't sell anyone else he's just realised if they sell anyone else so close to losing MP and RL there would justifiably be uproar. My issue is he feels NOTHING for the club or it's heritage. Yes he can spout rhetoric and is reasonably adept at propaganda but when it comes to PROOVING he actually cares about the fans our SFC where is the evidence that backs it. I never really believed i'd say this but I am beginning to ACTUALLY believe the time has come for new owners. Cortese please, please please come back you may have had faults and got some things wrong but this situation would never have happened under your watch. Bring on the thumbs down but please note I and my views are not validated over whether the other fans that care about the club support my thoughts. We all want whats best for SFC we just have very different views over how that is obtained. My view is the removal of the current board your's maybe we trust the board and well done for keeping the faith but all I ask is respect each others opinions.[/p][/quote]Don't worry abut your views. It has been rumoured to me that there are a number of PR agents on the various Saints web sites at the moment who are JUMPING on anybody who makes any criticism of Ralph or the board. You will probably notice there are some new people on here recently using the "same words"," same phrases" e.g.. "give the board time". etc.. (Not all are PR agents some are from the "Anybody but Cortese" Mob ) It take me back to the Lowe v Crouch days when somebody traced the ip addresses back if I remember correctly.[/p][/quote]Isn't just as likely that 'there are a number of PR agents on the various web sites at the moment who are JUMPING on anybody who makes any' comment that is positive or non-judgemental about 'Ralph or the board. You will probably notice there are some new people on here recently using the "same words"," same phrases" e.g..' "asset stripping". 'etc..' BTW, agentless passives are a very handy device for avoiding responsibility for what you say. Who exactly are these things being rumoured to you by? Rising_Son
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6:35am Tue 3 Jun 14

peregrine73 says...

Krueger is saying the right things to try to calm the storm,yes the club has no need to sell any of there players,however he is also aware the Lallana and Shaw are both wanting to go and will be gone after the World cup.Players who want to leave will be allowed to go its simple business sense to get there maximum value after there world cup showing.
Krueger is saying the right things to try to calm the storm,yes the club has no need to sell any of there players,however he is also aware the Lallana and Shaw are both wanting to go and will be gone after the World cup.Players who want to leave will be allowed to go its simple business sense to get there maximum value after there world cup showing. peregrine73
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7:39am Tue 3 Jun 14

Saint Jinx says...

allsaintsnocurves wrote:
Lallana won't be leaving for anything less than £30m mark my words. If he has a great World cup expect this to even increase.

Shaw won't be leaving for anything less than £30m either. Any decisions around a player swap for less money would only be decided by a new manager so not something we could agree to before them being appointed.

I feel better about knowing we won't let anyone go on the cheap now. I think Ricky was as surprised as any of us that Liverpool were interested in him. Fair play and good luck to him!
You don't think Gerrard had a word or two with him over lunch then? The idea being to use him as bait to lure Lallana and others.
I think they should loan him back to us because he'll only last 2-3 games...
[quote][p][bold]allsaintsnocurves[/bold] wrote: Lallana won't be leaving for anything less than £30m mark my words. If he has a great World cup expect this to even increase. Shaw won't be leaving for anything less than £30m either. Any decisions around a player swap for less money would only be decided by a new manager so not something we could agree to before them being appointed. I feel better about knowing we won't let anyone go on the cheap now. I think Ricky was as surprised as any of us that Liverpool were interested in him. Fair play and good luck to him![/p][/quote]You don't think Gerrard had a word or two with him over lunch then? The idea being to use him as bait to lure Lallana and others. I think they should loan him back to us because he'll only last 2-3 games... Saint Jinx
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11:57am Tue 3 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
StElsass wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
iswhite10 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0(
Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure?
We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered.
Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no?
I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we?
Judge at the end of this transfer window.
You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you.
Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative.
Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.
On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere.
On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances.
Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here.

And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....
I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion.
My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment.
Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.
So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving?
Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying?
Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?
It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I??
He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place.
Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL.
Crystal?
Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?
Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves.
Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.
No, not annoyed at all, gray is an acceptable alternative spelling these days. I don't crave attention, but the best way to avoid it is to ignor me, sorry if I rattled your cage, all I ask is that you think before you post and keep the negatives to a minimum, it upsets the morale of the troops, and they are under a great deal of stress at the moment. Get the decent new Manager in with a forward idea for us to work on and things will be OK. With or without Prima Donnas that don't want to be part of the New Order. Trust me, (I wouldn't coz I know me), it will be all right on the night.
You seem to ask a lot of people on here to do things your way but we're not all sheep I'm afraid.
Some times you might have to give up on trying to get a rise out of someone or try and convert them to "The world according to OS"
Right now would be a good time to start.
You notice I only ask, I don't demand, I am not always right but I am often on the right side of correctness, you still haven't said that you are a genuine Saints convert although you have been asked the question by others about where your loyalties lie. So come out and tell us, you are a Saints fan, and only post negatives to keep the rest of us on our toes, right?
I've followed Saints the length and breadth of this country all my life. My old man who's 80 this year also has a season ticket and I take him to every home game. My two sons go to as many games as they can afford home and away. I've even built an anexe at the bottom of the garden which is decorated in red white and black and has pictures of past and present Saints players on the walls. Pride of place is MLT scoring the last goal at the Dell against Arsenal.
Nobody else but you has questioned my loyalty and many who post on here know me personally.
I do not only post negatives I post comments straight from the heart which some people like you obviously can't handle or don't want to admit do bear some reasonable thought.
I may just be far more passionate about my club than you and other people like you will ever be. I don't for one minute feel that the less passionate people are any worse though so why should I get chastised by the same people?
You support Saints the way you want to and I'll continue to support them from the heart if that's ok with you
It was more or less what I suspected all along, and I was only teasing you as you well know! I think our hearts match even if our opinions don't always. Carry on posting and don't take any notice of my ramblings, I mean no harm.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Oh sh!t.....Statemant from Krueger! That means Lallana will be sold in the next couple of days..;0([/p][/quote]Will you please stop this ridiculous knee jerk cynicism, what else would you hope our club would day on Rickies departure? We can't offer Rickie what Liverpool offers him, he HAS given us 5 fabulous years, and it's sad he's going, but new opportunities will be offered. Plus if Adam and Luke get the same opportunity how can we say no? I believe we will still grow and develop as a club but right now I think we're being told the truth so let's judge the board and Kath by their and her actions shall we? Judge at the end of this transfer window.[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion and assumptions but anyone could quite easily accuse you of building your assumptions on footings of sand. We were told by Krueger a few days ago that no transfers were going to be sanctioned until a new manager was in place and then two days later RL was virtually already an Diverpool player. He's come out and made the same noises and states that "It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the manager is in place"?? That to me sounds a bit open to scrutiny and is hardly an assertive comment. If he had said something along the lines of " There will DEFINATELY NOT be any transfers" or "We can ASSURE the fans NO players will be sold" then maybe we could all be as positive as you. Sounds to me that he's not divulging all the information and we could be reading another statement in a few days ala RL's transfer saying how they couldn't stand in the players way etc etc etc. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see but in the mean time I'm not getting lured into any false sense of security and that is my prerogative. Yes my comment may sound a tad sarcastic and down beat but I bet there are others feeling the same right now.[/p][/quote]On one hand we've had countless "press reports" for weeks telling us that AL and LS were "on the brink" of signing for numerous clubs and nothing about RL going anywhere. On the other hand we have a board statement telling us that yes we have received offers but we're rejecting them as long as we don't have a new manager, except for RL whom we let go at his request because of exceptional circumstances. Facts: RL has gone to Liverpool and AL and LS are still here. And yet you choose to believe the "press reports" over the board statement. Interesting....[/p][/quote]I don't believe the press reports at all. My opinion is that I have my doubts as to the statements coming from Krueger are 100% true and feel they could be smoke screens before the inevitable happens. That's my opinion. My post was about the statements he's made and what followed thus based on facts and there is no mention of the press anywhere in my comment. Maybe you should read it again if you missed my point.[/p][/quote]So if it's not the press reports, what makes you believe that there will be more players leaving? Surely, it can't be just because the board are saying that they won't be selling any players and you think they are lying? Would you believe them if they said they will be selling all our players?[/p][/quote]It's the fluffy way that the statement is worded as I've already tried to explain. I'll make it a bit easier for you shall I?? He (Krueger) did not say they (the club) will" DEFINITELY NOT" or "CAN PROMISE" the fans that no transfers will go through before a new manager is in place. Instead we got "IT REMAINS OUR PREFERENCE NOT TO PARTAKE IN ANY TRANSFERS" which is not a phrase that relays any real conviction in my opinion given what had recently happened with RL. Crystal?[/p][/quote]Sorry my lad, you are obviously not cut out to cope with stresses and strains of following Southampton FC, have you considered taking up macrame? You plainly cannot see positives in anything that is said, anyone can say anything, and it can have its nuance changed just my moving a punctuation mark or thinking that the word spoken has a different meaning. I guess if you were told black was white you would argue that it was actually a shade of gray?[/p][/quote]Awwwwh....Is Little old Osprey getting annoyed about not getting the attention he craves. Oh and it's "Grey" lassie.[/p][/quote]No, not annoyed at all, gray is an acceptable alternative spelling these days. I don't crave attention, but the best way to avoid it is to ignor me, sorry if I rattled your cage, all I ask is that you think before you post and keep the negatives to a minimum, it upsets the morale of the troops, and they are under a great deal of stress at the moment. Get the decent new Manager in with a forward idea for us to work on and things will be OK. With or without Prima Donnas that don't want to be part of the New Order. Trust me, (I wouldn't coz I know me), it will be all right on the night.[/p][/quote]You seem to ask a lot of people on here to do things your way but we're not all sheep I'm afraid. Some times you might have to give up on trying to get a rise out of someone or try and convert them to "The world according to OS" Right now would be a good time to start.[/p][/quote]You notice I only ask, I don't demand, I am not always right but I am often on the right side of correctness, you still haven't said that you are a genuine Saints convert although you have been asked the question by others about where your loyalties lie. So come out and tell us, you are a Saints fan, and only post negatives to keep the rest of us on our toes, right?[/p][/quote]I've followed Saints the length and breadth of this country all my life. My old man who's 80 this year also has a season ticket and I take him to every home game. My two sons go to as many games as they can afford home and away. I've even built an anexe at the bottom of the garden which is decorated in red white and black and has pictures of past and present Saints players on the walls. Pride of place is MLT scoring the last goal at the Dell against Arsenal. Nobody else but you has questioned my loyalty and many who post on here know me personally. I do not only post negatives I post comments straight from the heart which some people like you obviously can't handle or don't want to admit do bear some reasonable thought. I may just be far more passionate about my club than you and other people like you will ever be. I don't for one minute feel that the less passionate people are any worse though so why should I get chastised by the same people? You support Saints the way you want to and I'll continue to support them from the heart if that's ok with you[/p][/quote]It was more or less what I suspected all along, and I was only teasing you as you well know! I think our hearts match even if our opinions don't always. Carry on posting and don't take any notice of my ramblings, I mean no harm. OSPREYSAINT
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1:21pm Tue 3 Jun 14

lowe esteem says...

Coopster44 wrote:
SaintChris46 wrote:
My first ever post on here.

We can only now hope that RK and his team get in the right manager asap. While this statement is pleasing to read, unless it is followed up with actions showing Liverpool, Utd and all the other circling vultures that we will not be railroaded into selling our entire team on the cheap, then it is all hollow words.

Whilst many on here would like Benitez, is his style of play really suited to us? He would possibly attract some bigger names to us and his record in management is something we Saints fans can only dream about. Not sure though.
Yakin? An unknown quantity (same as MP when he arrived). Good record in Swiss league. Can he make the big step up to the Prem?
Koeman? Big name, but as a manager? What has he achieved that makes the board think he could take us to the next level?

I personally don't care who is appointed, so long as they give 100%, play a similar style to that which we have become accustomed, and that they can persuade our big names to stay at least one more season. Let's face it, Lallana and Shaw can only enhance their reputations further by staying here. If they are coveted now by the big clubs, that will not change after another season.
Ronald Koeman would actually be an excellent choice. Not only does he have the football worlds respect which is good to attract players but he did brilliantly at Feyenoord. They were 11th in the Dutch league when he took over and have since finished 2nd twice and 3rd once. He plays an attacking style of football (they scored the most goals in the league last year) but he is also excellent at working with youngsters and bringing players through from the academy.

I spoke to a life long Feyenoord fan yesterday and he said he is loved by their fans and would be a perfect fit at saints with his style of play and use of the academy.
If a Spuds fan had asked me about Mopo, I'd have either dropped him or said something like "You're only using him as a means to buy our classy- and under-rated Italian striker".
Koeman, like Mopo, Nige and Pards before him, is getting mixed reviews when you dig deep. However, the essence of what he can bring to our particular table looks right:
1) Belief in Youth promotion.
2) So much experience for a Managerial 'nipper' at 51 years.
3) Encourages Football in the right style.
4) Successful elsewhere and a winner in his own right.
5) Speaks good English

But most telling perhaps:
6) Wants to succeed through our Premier League.
[quote][p][bold]Coopster44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintChris46[/bold] wrote: My first ever post on here. We can only now hope that RK and his team get in the right manager asap. While this statement is pleasing to read, unless it is followed up with actions showing Liverpool, Utd and all the other circling vultures that we will not be railroaded into selling our entire team on the cheap, then it is all hollow words. Whilst many on here would like Benitez, is his style of play really suited to us? He would possibly attract some bigger names to us and his record in management is something we Saints fans can only dream about. Not sure though. Yakin? An unknown quantity (same as MP when he arrived). Good record in Swiss league. Can he make the big step up to the Prem? Koeman? Big name, but as a manager? What has he achieved that makes the board think he could take us to the next level? I personally don't care who is appointed, so long as they give 100%, play a similar style to that which we have become accustomed, and that they can persuade our big names to stay at least one more season. Let's face it, Lallana and Shaw can only enhance their reputations further by staying here. If they are coveted now by the big clubs, that will not change after another season.[/p][/quote]Ronald Koeman would actually be an excellent choice. Not only does he have the football worlds respect which is good to attract players but he did brilliantly at Feyenoord. They were 11th in the Dutch league when he took over and have since finished 2nd twice and 3rd once. He plays an attacking style of football (they scored the most goals in the league last year) but he is also excellent at working with youngsters and bringing players through from the academy. I spoke to a life long Feyenoord fan yesterday and he said he is loved by their fans and would be a perfect fit at saints with his style of play and use of the academy.[/p][/quote]If a Spuds fan had asked me about Mopo, I'd have either dropped him or said something like "You're only using him as a means to buy our classy- and under-rated Italian striker". Koeman, like Mopo, Nige and Pards before him, is getting mixed reviews when you dig deep. However, the essence of what he can bring to our particular table looks right: 1) Belief in Youth promotion. 2) So much experience for a Managerial 'nipper' at 51 years. 3) Encourages Football in the right style. 4) Successful elsewhere and a winner in his own right. 5) Speaks good English But most telling perhaps: 6) Wants to succeed through our Premier League. lowe esteem
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