Perez hits back after Saints FA Cup defeat

Basingstoke Gazette: Jesus Perez Jesus Perez

Jesus Perez defended Saints’ team selection and performance as they were knocked out of the FA Cup at Sunderland.

Mauricio Pochettino made six changes to the side that defeated in Hull in midweek.

Sunderland made nine changes in a game Gus Poyet had admitted he would rather lose than draw, but the Black Cats still proved too strong for a lacklustre Saints.

There has already been inevitable criticism of Pochettino’s tactics with his team stuck in upper midtable in the league and missing out on the chance to win through to the FA Cup quarter-finals in a draw that appeared to be opening up.

Assistant manager Perez defended not only the team selection but also the performance, saying he was not disappointed, just “a little sad” about the 1-0 defeat courtesy of Craig Garnder’s second half strike.

He said: “We played the best team we decide to play.

“We assess our players, we know how they are, we know which problems each other got from the last game and we decide the best team to play.

“I repeat again we trust every single player we have in our squad.

“Our squad is not depth in this moment so we have a lot of young people from the under-21s so we are not disappointed, just a little sad to be out of the FA Cup because we tried to move forward.

“It wasn’t possible to stay in the next round but we protect and we support all our squad.”

He added: “We are not disappointed for nothing as a team, as players.

“They tried to do the best and we couldn’t especially first half because Sunderland played with energy and a little bit different if we review the last game we played here in the Premier League.

“They stopped us better and I think in the second half we conceded a simple goal.

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“In the last 15-20 minutes we had chances enough to equalise the game.”

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3:37pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Buddy SFC says...

You have to give these guy's a chance , the squad is crucial and remember we will get more injury's needing guys to step in from the fringes to perform.
You have to give these guy's a chance , the squad is crucial and remember we will get more injury's needing guys to step in from the fringes to perform. Buddy SFC

3:38pm Sat 15 Feb 14

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH says...

ONE STATEMENT WILL SUM IT ALL UP.

F*CK OFF JESUS - YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING !!

We are the MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.

WE CONTINUE THE FIGHT IN THE LEAGUE - starting with taking down Wet Spam.

COYR
ONE STATEMENT WILL SUM IT ALL UP. F*CK OFF JESUS - YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING !! We are the MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON. WE CONTINUE THE FIGHT IN THE LEAGUE - starting with taking down Wet Spam. COYR REDARMYRULETHESOUTH

3:43pm Sat 15 Feb 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH wrote:
ONE STATEMENT WILL SUM IT ALL UP.

F*CK OFF JESUS - YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING !!

We are the MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.

WE CONTINUE THE FIGHT IN THE LEAGUE - starting with taking down Wet Spam.

COYR
.. and you are the reason I won't post on here anymore.
[quote][p][bold]REDARMYRULETHESOUTH[/bold] wrote: ONE STATEMENT WILL SUM IT ALL UP. F*CK OFF JESUS - YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING !! We are the MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON. WE CONTINUE THE FIGHT IN THE LEAGUE - starting with taking down Wet Spam. COYR[/p][/quote].. and you are the reason I won't post on here anymore. OSPREYSAINT

3:44pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Abbey Saint says...

sorry, but his comments are total c0ck.

This was NOT Saints strongest side, and to say he was just a "little sad" to be knocked out of THE FA CUP at this late stage when we have nothing else to play for this season (Poch has already said the uefa cup is not useful) disrespects the FA cup, the travelling fans and the Saints history.
sorry, but his comments are total c0ck. This was NOT Saints strongest side, and to say he was just a "little sad" to be knocked out of THE FA CUP at this late stage when we have nothing else to play for this season (Poch has already said the uefa cup is not useful) disrespects the FA cup, the travelling fans and the Saints history. Abbey Saint

3:45pm Sat 15 Feb 14

IanRC5 says...

What a way to thank the fans and Jack Cork, you should be ashamed MoPo
What a way to thank the fans and Jack Cork, you should be ashamed MoPo IanRC5

3:50pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Matt Le God says...

I would say that unfortunately I could not go because of work but perhaps it was not as unfortunate for me as it was for those who did travel.. With the effort shown by the team as a whole on the pitch today those travelling fans deserve a refund.
I would say that unfortunately I could not go because of work but perhaps it was not as unfortunate for me as it was for those who did travel.. With the effort shown by the team as a whole on the pitch today those travelling fans deserve a refund. Matt Le God

3:51pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Rank Xerox says...

I can only assume by the way Jesus speaks with his broken English that the team talk given today was not understood fully!!!
I can only assume by the way Jesus speaks with his broken English that the team talk given today was not understood fully!!! Rank Xerox

3:54pm Sat 15 Feb 14

US Spitfire says...

Yet another poor performance and bad tactics from Poch - I may be in the minority but do not feel he is as good coach as he's been made out to be. 6 players who were not deemed good enough to play against Hull were considered good enough to progress Saints in the FA Cup. After the inevitable defeat I don't want excuses. Just be honest to the fans that spent a lot of money traveling 600+ miles that you really didn't give a **** about the FA Cup and weren't going to make the effort. The are sad win the league with no realistic chance elf getting a European spot so why not at least try to win the game?
Yet another poor performance and bad tactics from Poch - I may be in the minority but do not feel he is as good coach as he's been made out to be. 6 players who were not deemed good enough to play against Hull were considered good enough to progress Saints in the FA Cup. After the inevitable defeat I don't want excuses. Just be honest to the fans that spent a lot of money traveling 600+ miles that you really didn't give a **** about the FA Cup and weren't going to make the effort. The are sad win the league with no realistic chance elf getting a European spot so why not at least try to win the game? US Spitfire

3:56pm Sat 15 Feb 14

US Spitfire says...

Sorry That should read "Safe in the league" **** auto correct!
Sorry That should read "Safe in the league" **** auto correct! US Spitfire

3:56pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Crossley Place Saint says...

There's a serious punctuation mistake in the opening sentence. It should read:

"Jesus! Perez defended Saints’ team selection and performance as they were knocked out of the FA Cup at Sunderland".
There's a serious punctuation mistake in the opening sentence. It should read: "Jesus! Perez defended Saints’ team selection and performance as they were knocked out of the FA Cup at Sunderland". Crossley Place Saint

3:59pm Sat 15 Feb 14

lowemustgo says...

Why? Why? Why? Why?
What a waste of a golden opportunity.
Team selections like this make me wonder just how good MoPo and Jesus really are????
OK, you can get away with playing Guly against league one Yeovil (just), but I think that it has already been established that him and Hooiveld should not be on the pitch against premier league opposition?
We've already lost once before at Sunderland, so there must be some lessons learnt Jesus? You are paid to analyse games? Has the DVD player broken?
We have a fantastic frontline threesome which all the commentators have been raving about - so what do we do? We leave out Rodriguez - our top scorer! Without Fonte (and obviously Lovren), we were on the back foot far too often. Why no Schneiderlin? We missed Cork's distribution and Kelvin's kicking was dreadful at times.
Marks out of ten 3. Grade C- MUST DO BETTER if you are going to call yourselves management. I hope that Katherina gives you both a good tongue lashing on Monday!
Why? Why? Why? Why? What a waste of a golden opportunity. Team selections like this make me wonder just how good MoPo and Jesus really are???? OK, you can get away with playing Guly against league one Yeovil (just), but I think that it has already been established that him and Hooiveld should not be on the pitch against premier league opposition? We've already lost once before at Sunderland, so there must be some lessons learnt Jesus? You are paid to analyse games? Has the DVD player broken? We have a fantastic frontline threesome which all the commentators have been raving about - so what do we do? We leave out Rodriguez - our top scorer! Without Fonte (and obviously Lovren), we were on the back foot far too often. Why no Schneiderlin? We missed Cork's distribution and Kelvin's kicking was dreadful at times. Marks out of ten 3. Grade C- MUST DO BETTER if you are going to call yourselves management. I hope that Katherina gives you both a good tongue lashing on Monday! lowemustgo

4:02pm Sat 15 Feb 14

swisssaint says...

If I was Katharina Liebherr, I would fuming with Pochetinoi and Perez right now. With nothing left to play for this was the ideal chance to tap into extra revenue streams by going on a cup run - which would, in turn, make the fans happy again in, what is turning out to be, a very turbulent year for the club.

To deliberately pick a weakened team against Sunderland is grossly negligent in my books...let alone completely disrespectful to the fans and FA cup.

I'm an total admirer of MoPo..but today he seriously let the fans and the club down.
If I was Katharina Liebherr, I would fuming with Pochetinoi and Perez right now. With nothing left to play for this was the ideal chance to tap into extra revenue streams by going on a cup run - which would, in turn, make the fans happy again in, what is turning out to be, a very turbulent year for the club. To deliberately pick a weakened team against Sunderland is grossly negligent in my books...let alone completely disrespectful to the fans and FA cup. I'm an total admirer of MoPo..but today he seriously let the fans and the club down. swisssaint

4:04pm Sat 15 Feb 14

lowemustgo says...

US Spitfire wrote:
Yet another poor performance and bad tactics from Poch - I may be in the minority but do not feel he is as good coach as he's been made out to be. 6 players who were not deemed good enough to play against Hull were considered good enough to progress Saints in the FA Cup. After the inevitable defeat I don't want excuses. Just be honest to the fans that spent a lot of money traveling 600+ miles that you really didn't give a **** about the FA Cup and weren't going to make the effort. The are sad win the league with no realistic chance elf getting a European spot so why not at least try to win the game?
Yes, agree. MoPo is being found out in both the transfer market and the player selection. He managed to get rid of some lower league players at half term, but failed to strengthen at the back with the excellent Lovren (his one good buy) injured.
Then he picks turkeys to play in the FA cup. Also he can't have the excuse of giving the youngsters a chance - no Sam Gallagher.
MoPo is a good player, whose team selection for cup games would suggest he doesn't want to progress.
[quote][p][bold]US Spitfire[/bold] wrote: Yet another poor performance and bad tactics from Poch - I may be in the minority but do not feel he is as good coach as he's been made out to be. 6 players who were not deemed good enough to play against Hull were considered good enough to progress Saints in the FA Cup. After the inevitable defeat I don't want excuses. Just be honest to the fans that spent a lot of money traveling 600+ miles that you really didn't give a **** about the FA Cup and weren't going to make the effort. The are sad win the league with no realistic chance elf getting a European spot so why not at least try to win the game?[/p][/quote]Yes, agree. MoPo is being found out in both the transfer market and the player selection. He managed to get rid of some lower league players at half term, but failed to strengthen at the back with the excellent Lovren (his one good buy) injured. Then he picks turkeys to play in the FA cup. Also he can't have the excuse of giving the youngsters a chance - no Sam Gallagher. MoPo is a good player, whose team selection for cup games would suggest he doesn't want to progress. lowemustgo

4:08pm Sat 15 Feb 14

saint Compo says...

Saints management (but probably not the players) were not bothered about winning the FA Cup, the reward (!!) for which is a place in the Euro Mickey Mouse Cup next season and a guaranteed struggle against relegation. Unless you have a large squad, you don't want all those extra games for scant financial reward.

Sunderland have already got a place in the Mickey Mouse Cup because even as runners-up to Man City (who will get a Champions League place), they will qualify. Expect to see them struggle big-time in the Premiership next season.

To rescue the FA Cup the FA has to award a Champions League place to the winners. Otherwise it will continue to decline in importance.

Meanwhile, Saints fans have been denied the chance of a trip to Wembley.

All quite sad, really. The Club should reimburse all the travelling fans and the players should donate half a week's wages to the Hampshire Flood Victims Appeal.

COYR
Saints management (but probably not the players) were not bothered about winning the FA Cup, the reward (!!) for which is a place in the Euro Mickey Mouse Cup next season and a guaranteed struggle against relegation. Unless you have a large squad, you don't want all those extra games for scant financial reward. Sunderland have already got a place in the Mickey Mouse Cup because even as runners-up to Man City (who will get a Champions League place), they will qualify. Expect to see them struggle big-time in the Premiership next season. To rescue the FA Cup the FA has to award a Champions League place to the winners. Otherwise it will continue to decline in importance. Meanwhile, Saints fans have been denied the chance of a trip to Wembley. All quite sad, really. The Club should reimburse all the travelling fans and the players should donate half a week's wages to the Hampshire Flood Victims Appeal. COYR saint Compo

4:11pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
There's a serious punctuation mistake in the opening sentence. It should read:

"Jesus! Perez defended Saints’ team selection and performance as they were knocked out of the FA Cup at Sunderland".
Finally, something that has brought a smile to my face. Thank you CPS.
[quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: There's a serious punctuation mistake in the opening sentence. It should read: "Jesus! Perez defended Saints’ team selection and performance as they were knocked out of the FA Cup at Sunderland".[/p][/quote]Finally, something that has brought a smile to my face. Thank you CPS. Strasbourg Saint

4:11pm Sat 15 Feb 14

beanwalking says...

My thoughts go out to the traveling fans who spent all their money and their time to travel what over 600 miles just to see a lack luster game. Have to say it was the worsted game the Saints have played all season . Roll on Wet Spam next week.
My thoughts go out to the traveling fans who spent all their money and their time to travel what over 600 miles just to see a lack luster game. Have to say it was the worsted game the Saints have played all season . Roll on Wet Spam next week. beanwalking

4:20pm Sat 15 Feb 14

george chivers says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Crossley Place Saint wrote:
There's a serious punctuation mistake in the opening sentence. It should read:

"Jesus! Perez defended Saints’ team selection and performance as they were knocked out of the FA Cup at Sunderland".
Finally, something that has brought a smile to my face. Thank you CPS.
Jesus! Me too!
What a smoke screen. Do they think we are fools. Put him in charge of flood relief with Eric Pickles as his advisor.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: There's a serious punctuation mistake in the opening sentence. It should read: "Jesus! Perez defended Saints’ team selection and performance as they were knocked out of the FA Cup at Sunderland".[/p][/quote]Finally, something that has brought a smile to my face. Thank you CPS.[/p][/quote]Jesus! Me too! What a smoke screen. Do they think we are fools. Put him in charge of flood relief with Eric Pickles as his advisor. george chivers

4:21pm Sat 15 Feb 14

mustard says...

i don't think selection was the problem today, the performance was. that team should have been strong enough to get at last a draw against a much changed sunderland side.
With Lovren still injured Poch is right to protect Fonte, J-Rod was more than due a rest and most of the other changes were 50/50 selections ie Chambers/Clyne and Davis/Spiderman and Wanyama/Cork,it's not like they put a reserve team out there.
I would have loved us to get to Wembley but am more than happy with our season to date and the amount of talented English younsters we are producing.
If Lambert hadn't of missed the open goal near the end we'd all be looking forward to a replay.
Finally with regards to respcting the competition, it's not just our club its most clubs and it's the fans too, just look at the attendances. Unfortunately because of the finances involved the Premier league IS far more important to the owners, the management and most fans.
i don't think selection was the problem today, the performance was. that team should have been strong enough to get at last a draw against a much changed sunderland side. With Lovren still injured Poch is right to protect Fonte, J-Rod was more than due a rest and most of the other changes were 50/50 selections ie Chambers/Clyne and Davis/Spiderman and Wanyama/Cork,it's not like they put a reserve team out there. I would have loved us to get to Wembley but am more than happy with our season to date and the amount of talented English younsters we are producing. If Lambert hadn't of missed the open goal near the end we'd all be looking forward to a replay. Finally with regards to respcting the competition, it's not just our club its most clubs and it's the fans too, just look at the attendances. Unfortunately because of the finances involved the Premier league IS far more important to the owners, the management and most fans. mustard

4:23pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Wozzie says...

Nothing to do with team selection they played like they all had a few too many to drink last night. Nowhere close to their usual intensity. Hull Tuesday night and a few drinkies in the hotel in the meantime methinks :D
Nothing to do with team selection they played like they all had a few too many to drink last night. Nowhere close to their usual intensity. Hull Tuesday night and a few drinkies in the hotel in the meantime methinks :D Wozzie

4:27pm Sat 15 Feb 14

right back in the bar says...

I can't figure out why we can't beat Sunderland. I was convinced we would put that right today. whatever the management believe this was a massive game for us fans and to select a weakened team without form players in the starting lineup was a disgrace - unfathomable when there was a 1/4 final at stake. What a waste.
I can't figure out why we can't beat Sunderland. I was convinced we would put that right today. whatever the management believe this was a massive game for us fans and to select a weakened team without form players in the starting lineup was a disgrace - unfathomable when there was a 1/4 final at stake. What a waste. right back in the bar

4:27pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Smith187 says...

Lacklustre is the word, disappointment is the other. Onwards and upwards to west ham now, 3 points will be a nice remedy.
Lacklustre is the word, disappointment is the other. Onwards and upwards to west ham now, 3 points will be a nice remedy. Smith187

4:30pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Rising_Son says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
REDARMYRULETHESOUTH wrote:
ONE STATEMENT WILL SUM IT ALL UP.

F*CK OFF JESUS - YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING !!

We are the MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.

WE CONTINUE THE FIGHT IN THE LEAGUE - starting with taking down Wet Spam.

COYR
.. and you are the reason I won't post on here anymore.
You have to wonder how somebody can call us the mighty Saints, but claim the management doesn't know what it's doing. Sounds contradictory to me.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]REDARMYRULETHESOUTH[/bold] wrote: ONE STATEMENT WILL SUM IT ALL UP. F*CK OFF JESUS - YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING !! We are the MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON. WE CONTINUE THE FIGHT IN THE LEAGUE - starting with taking down Wet Spam. COYR[/p][/quote].. and you are the reason I won't post on here anymore.[/p][/quote]You have to wonder how somebody can call us the mighty Saints, but claim the management doesn't know what it's doing. Sounds contradictory to me. Rising_Son

4:30pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Norwegian Saint says...

is Jesus the cup manager? He comes out to do the interviews, so is it him that picks the cup teams? If so.... FU*KING pack your bags and FU'K off after that interview! Disgraceful answers! Get your wallet out and pay the fans!
Yes... I'm still angry, I feel sick about that selection and result but fuming with his blazay interview.
is Jesus the cup manager? He comes out to do the interviews, so is it him that picks the cup teams? If so.... FU*KING pack your bags and FU'K off after that interview! Disgraceful answers! Get your wallet out and pay the fans! Yes... I'm still angry, I feel sick about that selection and result but fuming with his blazay interview. Norwegian Saint

4:31pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Whitton says...

I don't.. I don't understand.. w.. why?
I don't.. I don't understand.. w.. why? Whitton

4:32pm Sat 15 Feb 14

redduke says...

Is it any wonder fans don't support the FA Cup like they used to?
Play your strongest line up from the start, it's easier to protect a lead rather than chase a game. I got the feeling that the players who did retain their places today weren't happy with MP's decision, reflected in the fact that they all had poor games.
Hats off to the travelling fans, but even the most die-hard of them must be questioning their decision to go today when your manager clearly doesn't 'get' the FA Cup and what it means to us.
Is it any wonder fans don't support the FA Cup like they used to? Play your strongest line up from the start, it's easier to protect a lead rather than chase a game. I got the feeling that the players who did retain their places today weren't happy with MP's decision, reflected in the fact that they all had poor games. Hats off to the travelling fans, but even the most die-hard of them must be questioning their decision to go today when your manager clearly doesn't 'get' the FA Cup and what it means to us. redduke

4:33pm Sat 15 Feb 14

SWAYTHLING SAINT says...

Well all the Guly fans got their wish and the maestro didn't deliver, as per usual. Shame we still don't have Danny Fox, he would have looked top draw today.
Well all the Guly fans got their wish and the maestro didn't deliver, as per usual. Shame we still don't have Danny Fox, he would have looked top draw today. SWAYTHLING SAINT

4:36pm Sat 15 Feb 14

SWAYTHLING SAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
REDARMYRULETHESOUTH wrote:
ONE STATEMENT WILL SUM IT ALL UP.

F*CK OFF JESUS - YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING !!

We are the MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.

WE CONTINUE THE FIGHT IN THE LEAGUE - starting with taking down Wet Spam.

COYR
.. and you are the reason I won't post on here anymore.
If you won't post on here.....er.........
why are you still posting?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]REDARMYRULETHESOUTH[/bold] wrote: ONE STATEMENT WILL SUM IT ALL UP. F*CK OFF JESUS - YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING !! We are the MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON. WE CONTINUE THE FIGHT IN THE LEAGUE - starting with taking down Wet Spam. COYR[/p][/quote].. and you are the reason I won't post on here anymore.[/p][/quote]If you won't post on here.....er......... why are you still posting? SWAYTHLING SAINT

4:36pm Sat 15 Feb 14

SWAYTHLING SAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
REDARMYRULETHESOUTH wrote:
ONE STATEMENT WILL SUM IT ALL UP.

F*CK OFF JESUS - YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING !!

We are the MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.

WE CONTINUE THE FIGHT IN THE LEAGUE - starting with taking down Wet Spam.

COYR
.. and you are the reason I won't post on here anymore.
If you won't post on here.....er.........
why are you still posting?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]REDARMYRULETHESOUTH[/bold] wrote: ONE STATEMENT WILL SUM IT ALL UP. F*CK OFF JESUS - YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING !! We are the MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON. WE CONTINUE THE FIGHT IN THE LEAGUE - starting with taking down Wet Spam. COYR[/p][/quote].. and you are the reason I won't post on here anymore.[/p][/quote]If you won't post on here.....er......... why are you still posting? SWAYTHLING SAINT

4:37pm Sat 15 Feb 14

right back in the bar says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
REDARMYRULETHESOUTH wrote:
ONE STATEMENT WILL SUM IT ALL UP.

F*CK OFF JESUS - YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING !!

We are the MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.

WE CONTINUE THE FIGHT IN THE LEAGUE - starting with taking down Wet Spam.

COYR
.. and you are the reason I won't post on here anymore.
And you and your ilk who take it upon themselves to police these threads and who believe they know it all are the reason I don't bother as much these days. But I did today because Red Army is right - this a lie and capitulating to a crap team like Sunderland in the 5th rd of the cup is a disgrace.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]REDARMYRULETHESOUTH[/bold] wrote: ONE STATEMENT WILL SUM IT ALL UP. F*CK OFF JESUS - YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING !! We are the MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON. WE CONTINUE THE FIGHT IN THE LEAGUE - starting with taking down Wet Spam. COYR[/p][/quote].. and you are the reason I won't post on here anymore.[/p][/quote]And you and your ilk who take it upon themselves to police these threads and who believe they know it all are the reason I don't bother as much these days. But I did today because Red Army is right - this a lie and capitulating to a crap team like Sunderland in the 5th rd of the cup is a disgrace. right back in the bar

4:39pm Sat 15 Feb 14

up saints says...

what i cant understand is we have 39 points safe from the drop and we put out a weak team.this was a chance of a trip to wembley in may
what i cant understand is we have 39 points safe from the drop and we put out a weak team.this was a chance of a trip to wembley in may up saints

4:41pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Rising_Son says...

SWAYTHLING SAINT wrote:
Well all the Guly fans got their wish and the maestro didn't deliver, as per usual. Shame we still don't have Danny Fox, he would have looked top draw today.
And the Guly haters got what they wanted, another Saints defeat.
[quote][p][bold]SWAYTHLING SAINT[/bold] wrote: Well all the Guly fans got their wish and the maestro didn't deliver, as per usual. Shame we still don't have Danny Fox, he would have looked top draw today.[/p][/quote]And the Guly haters got what they wanted, another Saints defeat. Rising_Son

4:42pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

Thats what you get playing the 2nd Team in the FA Cup totally out played and short of a game plan!
Thats what you get playing the 2nd Team in the FA Cup totally out played and short of a game plan! Fatty x Ford Worker

4:44pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Spudsaint says...

That's the season over then. I expect the league form to peter out too as there's nothing left to play for and players' thoughts turn to remaining injury free before the World Cup. As well as the poor sods who struggled through the poor weather to get to the NE, I feel sorry for the kids who would have loved Saints to have a tilt at Wembley, particularly as a lot of the 'big clubs' will be out this round. Very disappointing and reflects badly on Pochettino and his staff.
That's the season over then. I expect the league form to peter out too as there's nothing left to play for and players' thoughts turn to remaining injury free before the World Cup. As well as the poor sods who struggled through the poor weather to get to the NE, I feel sorry for the kids who would have loved Saints to have a tilt at Wembley, particularly as a lot of the 'big clubs' will be out this round. Very disappointing and reflects badly on Pochettino and his staff. Spudsaint

4:53pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Shrewdsaint says...

I want my money back and I only watched it at the pub!! The team selected should have been enough to beat that bunch. Too many overhit passes among other mistakes, Davis, Lala and the full backs tried, the rest looked like they didn't give a monkey's.
I want my money back and I only watched it at the pub!! The team selected should have been enough to beat that bunch. Too many overhit passes among other mistakes, Davis, Lala and the full backs tried, the rest looked like they didn't give a monkey's. Shrewdsaint

4:59pm Sat 15 Feb 14

saint christopher says...

Appalling display and a totally unneccesary result that all began with the team selection that effectively said to everyone (including the players) we were either that not interested or had become so big-headed that we didn't need our best team.

Either way it wasn't MoPo,s finest hour and does raise legitimate questions over certain aspects of his managerial credentials.

Sorry for the fans who travelled so far to be knifed in the back. At the very least they deserve a free ticket.
Appalling display and a totally unneccesary result that all began with the team selection that effectively said to everyone (including the players) we were either that not interested or had become so big-headed that we didn't need our best team. Either way it wasn't MoPo,s finest hour and does raise legitimate questions over certain aspects of his managerial credentials. Sorry for the fans who travelled so far to be knifed in the back. At the very least they deserve a free ticket. saint christopher

4:59pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Puddletown Saint says...

In truth this was just awful. Terrible team selection considering we are not playing again until next weekend. Shocking performance by the players - lets not get away from that fact. And as for the interview by Jesus!!!!!! Sums up what many of us have feared for many a while:

The owners/management are on a different bus to us fans. COYR
In truth this was just awful. Terrible team selection considering we are not playing again until next weekend. Shocking performance by the players - lets not get away from that fact. And as for the interview by Jesus!!!!!! Sums up what many of us have feared for many a while: The owners/management are on a different bus to us fans. COYR Puddletown Saint

5:02pm Sat 15 Feb 14

SnapperSaint says...

JESUS what a bad team selection, bad performance, and bad taste left in my mouth after that poor result!!!!
As soon as I heard the team selection, I knew we would lose 1-0...
Why was so much made of how much everyone players, manager, and all wanted us to progress in this Cup and then they go and put out that team.

Seed, tell your neighbour from all of us on this site that we extremely p*ssed off with him!
JESUS what a bad team selection, bad performance, and bad taste left in my mouth after that poor result!!!! As soon as I heard the team selection, I knew we would lose 1-0... Why was so much made of how much everyone players, manager, and all wanted us to progress in this Cup and then they go and put out that team. Seed, tell your neighbour from all of us on this site that we extremely p*ssed off with him! SnapperSaint

5:02pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Crossley Place Saint says...

I don't often miss games, but I'm grateful for the flu that kept me home today.

http://www.telegraph
.co.uk/sport/footbal
l/competitions/fa-cu
p/10640607/Sunderlan
d-v-Southampton-FA-C
up-fifth-round-live.
html

"Everything that is wrong with the modern day FA Cup came together in one utterly dreadful encounter at the Stadium of Light.

"Sunderland made nine changes to their team, and Southampton five. You could perhaps forgive the Mackems, with a League Cup final coming up and a hellish Premier League fixture list over the next few weeks as they attempt to avoid relegation. But what exactly are Southampton protecting? Safe from relegation, unlikely to compete for European places in the league, and with a quality starting 11 capable of having a really good go at winning this competition. You know, winning a cup, winning a medal? Remember that?

"Weakened team, limp performance, Sunderland's keeper Ustari had one save to make in the first half, and Rickie Lambert missed from a yard with what will no doubt become a YouTube sensation, but that was it. Now, presumably, the Saints can fully focus on the really important business of finishing midtable in the Premier League. "
I don't often miss games, but I'm grateful for the flu that kept me home today. http://www.telegraph .co.uk/sport/footbal l/competitions/fa-cu p/10640607/Sunderlan d-v-Southampton-FA-C up-fifth-round-live. html "Everything that is wrong with the modern day FA Cup came together in one utterly dreadful encounter at the Stadium of Light. "Sunderland made nine changes to their team, and Southampton five. You could perhaps forgive the Mackems, with a League Cup final coming up and a hellish Premier League fixture list over the next few weeks as they attempt to avoid relegation. But what exactly are Southampton protecting? Safe from relegation, unlikely to compete for European places in the league, and with a quality starting 11 capable of having a really good go at winning this competition. You know, winning a cup, winning a medal? Remember that? "Weakened team, limp performance, Sunderland's keeper Ustari had one save to make in the first half, and Rickie Lambert missed from a yard with what will no doubt become a YouTube sensation, but that was it. Now, presumably, the Saints can fully focus on the really important business of finishing midtable in the Premier League. " Crossley Place Saint

5:03pm Sat 15 Feb 14

boilerman says...

What a wasted opportunity.
Feel sorry for the fans who travelled.
If this is going to be the attitude of clubs towards the FA cup, then it is going to die as a competition.
Why should fans bother to turn up in the early rounds if we are going to pick a weaker team later on?
What a wasted opportunity. Feel sorry for the fans who travelled. If this is going to be the attitude of clubs towards the FA cup, then it is going to die as a competition. Why should fans bother to turn up in the early rounds if we are going to pick a weaker team later on? boilerman

5:06pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

SWAYTHLING SAINT wrote:
Well all the Guly fans got their wish and the maestro didn't deliver, as per usual. Shame we still don't have Danny Fox, he would have looked top draw today.
I don't know anyone who could be called a 'Guly fan'. What I do know is that there are plenty of posters who, unlike you, support the club and all its players, and don't waste their time picking on any one individual. There's a world of difference between the two positions and it serves no interest to distort the truth.
[quote][p][bold]SWAYTHLING SAINT[/bold] wrote: Well all the Guly fans got their wish and the maestro didn't deliver, as per usual. Shame we still don't have Danny Fox, he would have looked top draw today.[/p][/quote]I don't know anyone who could be called a 'Guly fan'. What I do know is that there are plenty of posters who, unlike you, support the club and all its players, and don't waste their time picking on any one individual. There's a world of difference between the two positions and it serves no interest to distort the truth. Strasbourg Saint

5:07pm Sat 15 Feb 14

st1halo says...

saint Compo wrote:
Saints management (but probably not the players) were not bothered about winning the FA Cup, the reward (!!) for which is a place in the Euro Mickey Mouse Cup next season and a guaranteed struggle against relegation. Unless you have a large squad, you don't want all those extra games for scant financial reward.

Sunderland have already got a place in the Mickey Mouse Cup because even as runners-up to Man City (who will get a Champions League place), they will qualify. Expect to see them struggle big-time in the Premiership next season.

To rescue the FA Cup the FA has to award a Champions League place to the winners. Otherwise it will continue to decline in importance.

Meanwhile, Saints fans have been denied the chance of a trip to Wembley.

All quite sad, really. The Club should reimburse all the travelling fans and the players should donate half a week's wages to the Hampshire Flood Victims Appeal.

COYR
If the management really don't want Saints to suffer the burden of a Europa League campaign then I am not following their logic. Surely it would be better to try to win the FACup, take the additional revenue and the honours with all that it attracts and then, if European football creates problems of depth, bale out at that point. The way we surrender places in competitions at the moment is not only embarrassing, particularly when a game is screened live to the world but also hugely damaging to our reputation and has a negative impact on future income through sponsorship and further televised games. If this is SFC current policy, it seiously needs reviewing.

As for the FACup itself, the game is without doubt more about money now so it is time for the FA to stump up big prize money for this competition.Would we or anyone have fielded a weakened team if £30mill was on offer for a Final win? Strong teams will bring the attendances back. The FA have the money, now is the time to back the competition that is dear to fan's hearts.

STID
[quote][p][bold]saint Compo[/bold] wrote: Saints management (but probably not the players) were not bothered about winning the FA Cup, the reward (!!) for which is a place in the Euro Mickey Mouse Cup next season and a guaranteed struggle against relegation. Unless you have a large squad, you don't want all those extra games for scant financial reward. Sunderland have already got a place in the Mickey Mouse Cup because even as runners-up to Man City (who will get a Champions League place), they will qualify. Expect to see them struggle big-time in the Premiership next season. To rescue the FA Cup the FA has to award a Champions League place to the winners. Otherwise it will continue to decline in importance. Meanwhile, Saints fans have been denied the chance of a trip to Wembley. All quite sad, really. The Club should reimburse all the travelling fans and the players should donate half a week's wages to the Hampshire Flood Victims Appeal. COYR[/p][/quote]If the management really don't want Saints to suffer the burden of a Europa League campaign then I am not following their logic. Surely it would be better to try to win the FACup, take the additional revenue and the honours with all that it attracts and then, if European football creates problems of depth, bale out at that point. The way we surrender places in competitions at the moment is not only embarrassing, particularly when a game is screened live to the world but also hugely damaging to our reputation and has a negative impact on future income through sponsorship and further televised games. If this is SFC current policy, it seiously needs reviewing. As for the FACup itself, the game is without doubt more about money now so it is time for the FA to stump up big prize money for this competition.Would we or anyone have fielded a weakened team if £30mill was on offer for a Final win? Strong teams will bring the attendances back. The FA have the money, now is the time to back the competition that is dear to fan's hearts. STID st1halo

5:15pm Sat 15 Feb 14

summercat says...

Still fed up. It was the most boring game I've watched in a while. (And I don't rate goalless games or ones we lose as boring). Oh well, off to watch football as it should be played...
Still fed up. It was the most boring game I've watched in a while. (And I don't rate goalless games or ones we lose as boring). Oh well, off to watch football as it should be played... summercat

5:17pm Sat 15 Feb 14

KingMawwaw says...

I'd prefer a season of winning the FA Cup and finishing, say, 14th, to a season of not winning the cup and finishing 7th or 8th. But I guess the Saints management have a different opinion. That's why they are in charge and I'm not, I guess.

Tough for Sam McQueen to come on in such circumstances too.
I'd prefer a season of winning the FA Cup and finishing, say, 14th, to a season of not winning the cup and finishing 7th or 8th. But I guess the Saints management have a different opinion. That's why they are in charge and I'm not, I guess. Tough for Sam McQueen to come on in such circumstances too. KingMawwaw

5:17pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Crossley Place Saint says...

Still in disbelief about the interview, I thought I'd look for it on youtube to see if it was really as bad as it seemed. Nobody's posted it yet, but I did find this:

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=LBa18N7Qb
5A

I think he'd do a better job selecting the team!!
Still in disbelief about the interview, I thought I'd look for it on youtube to see if it was really as bad as it seemed. Nobody's posted it yet, but I did find this: http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=LBa18N7Qb 5A I think he'd do a better job selecting the team!! Crossley Place Saint

5:22pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Lehman Bros Banker says...

A very tired performance today. It just looked from the start as if we didn't fancy it, which is a real shame because what are we playing for now? With limited depth obviously missing a keeper, centre back and attacking options the Europa league is well beyond the current squad. Bring on the end of season party and let's see what happens in the close season.
A very tired performance today. It just looked from the start as if we didn't fancy it, which is a real shame because what are we playing for now? With limited depth obviously missing a keeper, centre back and attacking options the Europa league is well beyond the current squad. Bring on the end of season party and let's see what happens in the close season. Lehman Bros Banker

5:22pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Norwegian Saint says...

After that pathetic Jesus interview I'm now an Atheist!

Before the Hull game I asked what fans would like more, 3 points at Hull or a result in the cup. I think everyone that answered went for the cup run.

Never thought I would say this but after those stupid words.... Jesus can go to Hell!
After that pathetic Jesus interview I'm now an Atheist! Before the Hull game I asked what fans would like more, 3 points at Hull or a result in the cup. I think everyone that answered went for the cup run. Never thought I would say this but after those stupid words.... Jesus can go to Hell! Norwegian Saint

5:26pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Mikedixon7 says...

Perez, what a shocking performance, reimburse all those Saints fans that travelled today. If you picked the best team for the job then why did we then bring on our better players in the 2nd half. No excuses, we were poor and could have got through with our best team from the start.
Perez, what a shocking performance, reimburse all those Saints fans that travelled today. If you picked the best team for the job then why did we then bring on our better players in the 2nd half. No excuses, we were poor and could have got through with our best team from the start. Mikedixon7

5:32pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Lehman Bros Banker wrote:
A very tired performance today. It just looked from the start as if we didn't fancy it, which is a real shame because what are we playing for now? With limited depth obviously missing a keeper, centre back and attacking options the Europa league is well beyond the current squad. Bring on the end of season party and let's see what happens in the close season.
It used to be about winning,and the pride,and the glory,and going as far as you could,until you got knocked out.
Now its just financial politics. :0(
[quote][p][bold]Lehman Bros Banker[/bold] wrote: A very tired performance today. It just looked from the start as if we didn't fancy it, which is a real shame because what are we playing for now? With limited depth obviously missing a keeper, centre back and attacking options the Europa league is well beyond the current squad. Bring on the end of season party and let's see what happens in the close season.[/p][/quote]It used to be about winning,and the pride,and the glory,and going as far as you could,until you got knocked out. Now its just financial politics. :0( Positively4thStreet

5:32pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Lehman Bros Banker wrote:
A very tired performance today. It just looked from the start as if we didn't fancy it, which is a real shame because what are we playing for now? With limited depth obviously missing a keeper, centre back and attacking options the Europa league is well beyond the current squad. Bring on the end of season party and let's see what happens in the close season.
It used to be about winning,and the pride,and the glory,and going as far as you could,until you got knocked out.
Now its just financial politics. :0(
[quote][p][bold]Lehman Bros Banker[/bold] wrote: A very tired performance today. It just looked from the start as if we didn't fancy it, which is a real shame because what are we playing for now? With limited depth obviously missing a keeper, centre back and attacking options the Europa league is well beyond the current squad. Bring on the end of season party and let's see what happens in the close season.[/p][/quote]It used to be about winning,and the pride,and the glory,and going as far as you could,until you got knocked out. Now its just financial politics. :0( Positively4thStreet

5:36pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Sheffieldsaint says...

Now here's a thought, if Saints want to experiment with the so called fringe players why not do it in the league. Our position in the league is pretty much assured, we can't finish 4th and we won't get relegated. Therefore what a golden opportunity to go for the cup, why couldn't we have put out our strongest 11. This would have sent a message to the rest of the cup hopefuls of our intent and bearing in mind the results so far today, given us a great opportunity to progress at least into the semi-finals. What will be more galling to discover tomorrow that we would have been drawn against a non premiership team either home or away. MoPo please explain!
Now here's a thought, if Saints want to experiment with the so called fringe players why not do it in the league. Our position in the league is pretty much assured, we can't finish 4th and we won't get relegated. Therefore what a golden opportunity to go for the cup, why couldn't we have put out our strongest 11. This would have sent a message to the rest of the cup hopefuls of our intent and bearing in mind the results so far today, given us a great opportunity to progress at least into the semi-finals. What will be more galling to discover tomorrow that we would have been drawn against a non premiership team either home or away. MoPo please explain! Sheffieldsaint

5:40pm Sat 15 Feb 14

jls217 says...

Lehman Bros Banker wrote:
A very tired performance today. It just looked from the start as if we didn't fancy it, which is a real shame because what are we playing for now? With limited depth obviously missing a keeper, centre back and attacking options the Europa league is well beyond the current squad. Bring on the end of season party and let's see what happens in the close season.
Couldn't agree more. That is the only perfromance I've seen from Ricky that could be described as disinterested. Sunderland were not good - we were lamentable. Rarely did a pass find the intended target, rarely did a tackle produce a ball winning counterattack. Rarely rarely rarely, I feel sick to my back teeth. If only we'd put up a fight Sunderland were there for the taking. Best team on the day won - can't dispute it.
[quote][p][bold]Lehman Bros Banker[/bold] wrote: A very tired performance today. It just looked from the start as if we didn't fancy it, which is a real shame because what are we playing for now? With limited depth obviously missing a keeper, centre back and attacking options the Europa league is well beyond the current squad. Bring on the end of season party and let's see what happens in the close season.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. That is the only perfromance I've seen from Ricky that could be described as disinterested. Sunderland were not good - we were lamentable. Rarely did a pass find the intended target, rarely did a tackle produce a ball winning counterattack. Rarely rarely rarely, I feel sick to my back teeth. If only we'd put up a fight Sunderland were there for the taking. Best team on the day won - can't dispute it. jls217

5:45pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Saint_rob says...

Disappointing result, and most of us would have put the strongest team out.
But you have to use your full squad as we have seen many players can get injured at the same time.
In my opinion we play a very fast game and if just one player isn't in the same mind set then it doesn't work. Guly has never got out of first gear let alone forth. I'm not blaming anyone but it's time for him to move on. Wanyama seems to take four or five games to get up to speed, but then is a very good player. Anyway the next round might draw Man City v Sunderland so let's just move on, the league position is more important to move on to the next level.
Disappointing result, and most of us would have put the strongest team out. But you have to use your full squad as we have seen many players can get injured at the same time. In my opinion we play a very fast game and if just one player isn't in the same mind set then it doesn't work. Guly has never got out of first gear let alone forth. I'm not blaming anyone but it's time for him to move on. Wanyama seems to take four or five games to get up to speed, but then is a very good player. Anyway the next round might draw Man City v Sunderland so let's just move on, the league position is more important to move on to the next level. Saint_rob

5:50pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Littleton-Saint says...

Our team looked like it was under instruction not to win.
The fact that Perez conducted the media interviews only underlines my point. We had nothing else to play for. We should have fielded our best side which would have been instructed to win. Would Rickie have missed from 2yds, normally?
Our team looked like it was under instruction not to win. The fact that Perez conducted the media interviews only underlines my point. We had nothing else to play for. We should have fielded our best side which would have been instructed to win. Would Rickie have missed from 2yds, normally? Littleton-Saint

5:55pm Sat 15 Feb 14

saintbobby says...

up saints wrote:
what i cant understand is we have 39 points safe from the drop and we put out a weak team.this was a chance of a trip to wembley in may
Exactly. Just what I said on the DUMPED OUT OF CUP post.

My 4 year old granddaughter could have picked the right team today. And I join in again - what about the brave souls who forked out a bomb to be at the match.

I am not particularly bothered about the Europa Cup but - Wembley, well that IS a different matter.

I am still fed up!
[quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: what i cant understand is we have 39 points safe from the drop and we put out a weak team.this was a chance of a trip to wembley in may[/p][/quote]Exactly. Just what I said on the DUMPED OUT OF CUP post. My 4 year old granddaughter could have picked the right team today. And I join in again - what about the brave souls who forked out a bomb to be at the match. I am not particularly bothered about the Europa Cup but - Wembley, well that IS a different matter. I am still fed up! saintbobby

6:03pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Southseachris says...

I remember the 'good old days' when the Cup was respected by all and there was no question of fielding your strongest team, no matter how many games you'd played recently; players didn't seem to be too tired to play - look back to 1976 for instance.

A major disappointment as all above have intimated; the way the draw was going looked really good for us and to not play our best team was TOTALLY inexcusable.
If Sunderland get a plum home draw next round I think I'll explode.
I remember the 'good old days' when the Cup was respected by all and there was no question of fielding your strongest team, no matter how many games you'd played recently; players didn't seem to be too tired to play - look back to 1976 for instance. A major disappointment as all above have intimated; the way the draw was going looked really good for us and to not play our best team was TOTALLY inexcusable. If Sunderland get a plum home draw next round I think I'll explode. Southseachris

6:16pm Sat 15 Feb 14

WobblyCat says...

What a totally pointless and demoralising exercise, what is so important that we couldn’t field a strong side or indeed our strongest side today? We aren’t going down, we won’t make the top 4, doesn’t mean the league season is over and there is still plenty to play for but why is the fa cup so meaningless? I would rather we made the cup final and had a great day out and a chance of some silverware than worry about the fine lines between finishing 7th instead of 8th. If we had to dick about with the side at least try one of the youngsters instead of Guly who will be off at the end of the season. I feel for the fans that made the trip today, money continues to rob the game of its soul.
What a totally pointless and demoralising exercise, what is so important that we couldn’t field a strong side or indeed our strongest side today? We aren’t going down, we won’t make the top 4, doesn’t mean the league season is over and there is still plenty to play for but why is the fa cup so meaningless? I would rather we made the cup final and had a great day out and a chance of some silverware than worry about the fine lines between finishing 7th instead of 8th. If we had to dick about with the side at least try one of the youngsters instead of Guly who will be off at the end of the season. I feel for the fans that made the trip today, money continues to rob the game of its soul. WobblyCat

6:17pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Simmo13 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
REDARMYRULETHESOUTH wrote:
ONE STATEMENT WILL SUM IT ALL UP.

F*CK OFF JESUS - YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING !!

We are the MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.

WE CONTINUE THE FIGHT IN THE LEAGUE - starting with taking down Wet Spam.

COYR
.. and you are the reason I won't post on here anymore.
That's good because you think you know it all so goodbye.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]REDARMYRULETHESOUTH[/bold] wrote: ONE STATEMENT WILL SUM IT ALL UP. F*CK OFF JESUS - YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING !! We are the MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON. WE CONTINUE THE FIGHT IN THE LEAGUE - starting with taking down Wet Spam. COYR[/p][/quote].. and you are the reason I won't post on here anymore.[/p][/quote]That's good because you think you know it all so goodbye. Simmo13

6:17pm Sat 15 Feb 14

wembley one day says...

Hmmm....how can we believe our captain - Lallana when interviewed said that Saints thought that this match was the most important of the season and the players were up for winning the cup.......doesn't he speak with the manager.....doesn't his thoughts mean anything to Poch? The midfield was awful today - Wanyama in particular and what did Guly deliver? I am actually ashamed of the team's performance today.
I think the club should refund the ticket price and travel expenses of the fans that made the effort to support the undeserving shambles on the field.
Hmmm....how can we believe our captain - Lallana when interviewed said that Saints thought that this match was the most important of the season and the players were up for winning the cup.......doesn't he speak with the manager.....doesn't his thoughts mean anything to Poch? The midfield was awful today - Wanyama in particular and what did Guly deliver? I am actually ashamed of the team's performance today. I think the club should refund the ticket price and travel expenses of the fans that made the effort to support the undeserving shambles on the field. wembley one day

6:19pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Golden_Salamander says...

The priorities for the season were set at the start of the season.

In previous seasons the players have had trips to the South Of France and Las Vegas if they achieve the target that are SET AT THE START OF THE SEASON .(promotion from L1 & CC etc)

At the start of this season it was agreed between the ceo/chairman and the players/management that a TOP 8 finish !!!!!!!!!!!!! as the priority NOT cup games.

That is why the players played their hearts out on Tuesday night and got a result and today we played a weaken team today. and Pochettino takes no part in Cup games.
.
The Players and Management WILL be judged at the end of the season on whether they have met the objectives SET AT THE START OF THE SEASON i.e. a TOP 8 finish and Cup Games mean NOTHING !!!!!!!
The priorities for the season were set at the start of the season. In previous seasons the players have had trips to the South Of France and Las Vegas if they achieve the target that are SET AT THE START OF THE SEASON .(promotion from L1 & CC etc) At the start of this season it was agreed between the ceo/chairman and the players/management that a TOP 8 finish !!!!!!!!!!!!! as the priority NOT cup games. That is why the players played their hearts out on Tuesday night and got a result and today we played a weaken team today. and Pochettino takes no part in Cup games. . The Players and Management WILL be judged at the end of the season on whether they have met the objectives SET AT THE START OF THE SEASON i.e. a TOP 8 finish and Cup Games mean NOTHING !!!!!!! Golden_Salamander

6:21pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Reality-man says...

Whilst initially I was angry and dismayed by the team selection, I'm now thinking sh!t happens, let's get over it. Our league position would point to the fact that MP DOES know what he is doing and gets it right a lot more times than he gets it wrong. Let's chill, move on and laugh at Pompey
Whilst initially I was angry and dismayed by the team selection, I'm now thinking sh!t happens, let's get over it. Our league position would point to the fact that MP DOES know what he is doing and gets it right a lot more times than he gets it wrong. Let's chill, move on and laugh at Pompey Reality-man

6:25pm Sat 15 Feb 14

WobblyCat says...

Rising_Son wrote:
SWAYTHLING SAINT wrote:
Well all the Guly fans got their wish and the maestro didn't deliver, as per usual. Shame we still don't have Danny Fox, he would have looked top draw today.
And the Guly haters got what they wanted, another Saints defeat.
Guly's contract ends this summer, do you think he should be offered a new one? That's a serious question, I'm not picking fight. Should he be given a new contract? I have never rated him as in my opinion he is poor more often that good. The suggestion that any Saints fan would want us to lose a game to satisfy their own righteousness over a player they don't like is frankly laughable (in my opinion).
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SWAYTHLING SAINT[/bold] wrote: Well all the Guly fans got their wish and the maestro didn't deliver, as per usual. Shame we still don't have Danny Fox, he would have looked top draw today.[/p][/quote]And the Guly haters got what they wanted, another Saints defeat.[/p][/quote]Guly's contract ends this summer, do you think he should be offered a new one? That's a serious question, I'm not picking fight. Should he be given a new contract? I have never rated him as in my opinion he is poor more often that good. The suggestion that any Saints fan would want us to lose a game to satisfy their own righteousness over a player they don't like is frankly laughable (in my opinion). WobblyCat

6:26pm Sat 15 Feb 14

redsnapper says...

Just a sec. Mackems made 9 changes we made fewer so if our lads wanted it they were in a better position to win it. But nothing clicked, no one performed and there was none of fast accurate passing like we are used to. It was an off day and if the players really wanted it they should have could have delivered.

From Davis,s horrendous distribution to Ricki,s point blank miss no one was interested in winning.
Sad but true the FA Cup is no longer the competition it used to be.
Just a sec. Mackems made 9 changes we made fewer so if our lads wanted it they were in a better position to win it. But nothing clicked, no one performed and there was none of fast accurate passing like we are used to. It was an off day and if the players really wanted it they should have could have delivered. From Davis,s horrendous distribution to Ricki,s point blank miss no one was interested in winning. Sad but true the FA Cup is no longer the competition it used to be. redsnapper

6:28pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Rank Xerox says...

I hope some of the so called players today have a sneaky peak at all these posts on here and are talking about it on Monday at the training ground an MoPo and Jesus get to here what we are all saying .....the management got it wrong BIG TIME.
I hope some of the so called players today have a sneaky peak at all these posts on here and are talking about it on Monday at the training ground an MoPo and Jesus get to here what we are all saying .....the management got it wrong BIG TIME. Rank Xerox

6:29pm Sat 15 Feb 14

SaintBobbert says...

I was driving home from work when I heard the team sheet & thought, that'll do - a decent side put out, with the exception of Guly (been injured) ALL have featured in the Prem for the 1st Team of late.

Yes, Poch made some changes - but why does it seem that I'm the only one that thinks the TEAM under performed...
I was driving home from work when I heard the team sheet & thought, that'll do - a decent side put out, with the exception of Guly (been injured) ALL have featured in the Prem for the 1st Team of late. Yes, Poch made some changes - but why does it seem that I'm the only one that thinks the TEAM under performed... SaintBobbert

6:34pm Sat 15 Feb 14

donni1437 says...

swisssaint wrote:
If I was Katharina Liebherr, I would fuming with Pochetinoi and Perez right now. With nothing left to play for this was the ideal chance to tap into extra revenue streams by going on a cup run - which would, in turn, make the fans happy again in, what is turning out to be, a very turbulent year for the club.

To deliberately pick a weakened team against Sunderland is grossly negligent in my books...let alone completely disrespectful to the fans and FA cup.

I'm an total admirer of MoPo..but today he seriously let the fans and the club down.
lucky u r not Miss Liebherr then.... that team was strong enough to win the game so if you feel you have to 'blame' someone then it's the team.
[quote][p][bold]swisssaint[/bold] wrote: If I was Katharina Liebherr, I would fuming with Pochetinoi and Perez right now. With nothing left to play for this was the ideal chance to tap into extra revenue streams by going on a cup run - which would, in turn, make the fans happy again in, what is turning out to be, a very turbulent year for the club. To deliberately pick a weakened team against Sunderland is grossly negligent in my books...let alone completely disrespectful to the fans and FA cup. I'm an total admirer of MoPo..but today he seriously let the fans and the club down.[/p][/quote]lucky u r not Miss Liebherr then.... that team was strong enough to win the game so if you feel you have to 'blame' someone then it's the team. donni1437

6:37pm Sat 15 Feb 14

donni1437 says...

redduke wrote:
Is it any wonder fans don't support the FA Cup like they used to?
Play your strongest line up from the start, it's easier to protect a lead rather than chase a game. I got the feeling that the players who did retain their places today weren't happy with MP's decision, reflected in the fact that they all had poor games.
Hats off to the travelling fans, but even the most die-hard of them must be questioning their decision to go today when your manager clearly doesn't 'get' the FA Cup and what it means to us.
So player dissent was the reason we lost... hmmmm interesting theory.
[quote][p][bold]redduke[/bold] wrote: Is it any wonder fans don't support the FA Cup like they used to? Play your strongest line up from the start, it's easier to protect a lead rather than chase a game. I got the feeling that the players who did retain their places today weren't happy with MP's decision, reflected in the fact that they all had poor games. Hats off to the travelling fans, but even the most die-hard of them must be questioning their decision to go today when your manager clearly doesn't 'get' the FA Cup and what it means to us.[/p][/quote]So player dissent was the reason we lost... hmmmm interesting theory. donni1437

6:38pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Clever Dick says...

Golden_Salamander wrote:
The priorities for the season were set at the start of the season.

In previous seasons the players have had trips to the South Of France and Las Vegas if they achieve the target that are SET AT THE START OF THE SEASON .(promotion from L1 & CC etc)

At the start of this season it was agreed between the ceo/chairman and the players/management that a TOP 8 finish !!!!!!!!!!!!! as the priority NOT cup games.

That is why the players played their hearts out on Tuesday night and got a result and today we played a weaken team today. and Pochettino takes no part in Cup games.
.
The Players and Management WILL be judged at the end of the season on whether they have met the objectives SET AT THE START OF THE SEASON i.e. a TOP 8 finish and Cup Games mean NOTHING !!!!!!!
I agree. As I pointed out last week just a league position or two is worth more money than winning the fa cup. The same argument holds good for champions league too. Arsenal have been happy for years to win nothing yet still keep the money rolling in. We may have to accept that we are owned by business people . The fans may not like it but at the end of the day we weren't likely to win the cup anyway. As much as the skunts like to crow about their cup wins the plain truth is that finishing top 8 in this day and age is a greater achievement by far.
[quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: The priorities for the season were set at the start of the season. In previous seasons the players have had trips to the South Of France and Las Vegas if they achieve the target that are SET AT THE START OF THE SEASON .(promotion from L1 & CC etc) At the start of this season it was agreed between the ceo/chairman and the players/management that a TOP 8 finish !!!!!!!!!!!!! as the priority NOT cup games. That is why the players played their hearts out on Tuesday night and got a result and today we played a weaken team today. and Pochettino takes no part in Cup games. . The Players and Management WILL be judged at the end of the season on whether they have met the objectives SET AT THE START OF THE SEASON i.e. a TOP 8 finish and Cup Games mean NOTHING !!!!!!![/p][/quote]I agree. As I pointed out last week just a league position or two is worth more money than winning the fa cup. The same argument holds good for champions league too. Arsenal have been happy for years to win nothing yet still keep the money rolling in. We may have to accept that we are owned by business people . The fans may not like it but at the end of the day we weren't likely to win the cup anyway. As much as the skunts like to crow about their cup wins the plain truth is that finishing top 8 in this day and age is a greater achievement by far. Clever Dick

6:38pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Skating on thin ice says...

Pompey v Wimbledon, League 2 relegation battle, the winners will be a little more secure in mid-table.
Away supporters: 1999

Sunderland v Southampton, FA Cup 5th round, the winners will be one game from a Wembley semi-final, and three games from qualifying for Europe.
Away supporters: 859

Respect to Wimbledon, a real club with real supporters!
Pompey v Wimbledon, League 2 relegation battle, the winners will be a little more secure in mid-table. Away supporters: 1999 Sunderland v Southampton, FA Cup 5th round, the winners will be one game from a Wembley semi-final, and three games from qualifying for Europe. Away supporters: 859 Respect to Wimbledon, a real club with real supporters! Skating on thin ice

6:42pm Sat 15 Feb 14

donni1437 says...

Shrewdsaint wrote:
I want my money back and I only watched it at the pub!! The team selected should have been enough to beat that bunch. Too many overhit passes among other mistakes, Davis, Lala and the full backs tried, the rest looked like they didn't give a monkey's.
Thought Lala was pretty poor today, Clyne only got going in the last 15 mins. Shaw indifferent too so no-one really stood out as trying harder than anyone else.
[quote][p][bold]Shrewdsaint[/bold] wrote: I want my money back and I only watched it at the pub!! The team selected should have been enough to beat that bunch. Too many overhit passes among other mistakes, Davis, Lala and the full backs tried, the rest looked like they didn't give a monkey's.[/p][/quote]Thought Lala was pretty poor today, Clyne only got going in the last 15 mins. Shaw indifferent too so no-one really stood out as trying harder than anyone else. donni1437

6:43pm Sat 15 Feb 14

WobblyCat says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
Pompey v Wimbledon, League 2 relegation battle, the winners will be a little more secure in mid-table.
Away supporters: 1999

Sunderland v Southampton, FA Cup 5th round, the winners will be one game from a Wembley semi-final, and three games from qualifying for Europe.
Away supporters: 859

Respect to Wimbledon, a real club with real supporters!
It's an hours drive ****.
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Pompey v Wimbledon, League 2 relegation battle, the winners will be a little more secure in mid-table. Away supporters: 1999 Sunderland v Southampton, FA Cup 5th round, the winners will be one game from a Wembley semi-final, and three games from qualifying for Europe. Away supporters: 859 Respect to Wimbledon, a real club with real supporters![/p][/quote]It's an hours drive ****. WobblyCat

6:48pm Sat 15 Feb 14

donni1437 says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
Pompey v Wimbledon, League 2 relegation battle, the winners will be a little more secure in mid-table.
Away supporters: 1999

Sunderland v Southampton, FA Cup 5th round, the winners will be one game from a Wembley semi-final, and three games from qualifying for Europe.
Away supporters: 859

Respect to Wimbledon, a real club with real supporters!
haha, 'little more secure in mid-table' translates to still looking over your shoulder at the conference.
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Pompey v Wimbledon, League 2 relegation battle, the winners will be a little more secure in mid-table. Away supporters: 1999 Sunderland v Southampton, FA Cup 5th round, the winners will be one game from a Wembley semi-final, and three games from qualifying for Europe. Away supporters: 859 Respect to Wimbledon, a real club with real supporters![/p][/quote]haha, 'little more secure in mid-table' translates to still looking over your shoulder at the conference. donni1437

6:48pm Sat 15 Feb 14

donni1437 says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
Pompey v Wimbledon, League 2 relegation battle, the winners will be a little more secure in mid-table.
Away supporters: 1999

Sunderland v Southampton, FA Cup 5th round, the winners will be one game from a Wembley semi-final, and three games from qualifying for Europe.
Away supporters: 859

Respect to Wimbledon, a real club with real supporters!
haha, 'little more secure in mid-table' translates to still looking over your shoulder at the conference.
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Pompey v Wimbledon, League 2 relegation battle, the winners will be a little more secure in mid-table. Away supporters: 1999 Sunderland v Southampton, FA Cup 5th round, the winners will be one game from a Wembley semi-final, and three games from qualifying for Europe. Away supporters: 859 Respect to Wimbledon, a real club with real supporters![/p][/quote]haha, 'little more secure in mid-table' translates to still looking over your shoulder at the conference. donni1437

6:49pm Sat 15 Feb 14

bigfella777 says...

What a lot of miserable glory hunters, 1-0 away to a team on the rise with a top manager is not that bad.
I suppose Mourinho deserves to be sacked as well, it's the stupid midweek fixture that has caused this, there was no need for it.
What a lot of miserable glory hunters, 1-0 away to a team on the rise with a top manager is not that bad. I suppose Mourinho deserves to be sacked as well, it's the stupid midweek fixture that has caused this, there was no need for it. bigfella777

6:50pm Sat 15 Feb 14

circa 66 saint says...

So we are not going to win the F.A. cup this season, the league position is more important to the business that is Southampton F.C. this is where the money is to be made. Winning a tin pot, cup though greatly valued and enjoyed by the fans is not part of the business plan for Saints.
The SKUNTS have shown how much it can cost these days to win the F.A. cup, very sad but money is now everything and all cup matches at this time will be a nuisance to be treated with contempt and if they reach a semi final will only then be treated with respect.
COYR
UTS
but not for cup matches.
So we are not going to win the F.A. cup this season, the league position is more important to the business that is Southampton F.C. this is where the money is to be made. Winning a tin pot, cup though greatly valued and enjoyed by the fans is not part of the business plan for Saints. The SKUNTS have shown how much it can cost these days to win the F.A. cup, very sad but money is now everything and all cup matches at this time will be a nuisance to be treated with contempt and if they reach a semi final will only then be treated with respect. COYR UTS but not for cup matches. circa 66 saint

6:54pm Sat 15 Feb 14

donni1437 says...

WobblyCat wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Pompey v Wimbledon, League 2 relegation battle, the winners will be a little more secure in mid-table.
Away supporters: 1999

Sunderland v Southampton, FA Cup 5th round, the winners will be one game from a Wembley semi-final, and three games from qualifying for Europe.
Away supporters: 859

Respect to Wimbledon, a real club with real supporters!
It's an hours drive ****.
yeah and only a fiver to get in with free haddock for the first 500.
[quote][p][bold]WobblyCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Pompey v Wimbledon, League 2 relegation battle, the winners will be a little more secure in mid-table. Away supporters: 1999 Sunderland v Southampton, FA Cup 5th round, the winners will be one game from a Wembley semi-final, and three games from qualifying for Europe. Away supporters: 859 Respect to Wimbledon, a real club with real supporters![/p][/quote]It's an hours drive ****.[/p][/quote]yeah and only a fiver to get in with free haddock for the first 500. donni1437

6:55pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Simmo13 says...

bigfella777 wrote:
What a lot of miserable glory hunters, 1-0 away to a team on the rise with a top manager is not that bad.
I suppose Mourinho deserves to be sacked as well, it's the stupid midweek fixture that has caused this, there was no need for it.
Perhaps it could also be the fact Sunderland made 9 changes as well which basically made it their reserve side we were woeful
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: What a lot of miserable glory hunters, 1-0 away to a team on the rise with a top manager is not that bad. I suppose Mourinho deserves to be sacked as well, it's the stupid midweek fixture that has caused this, there was no need for it.[/p][/quote]Perhaps it could also be the fact Sunderland made 9 changes as well which basically made it their reserve side we were woeful Simmo13

6:59pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Norwegian Saint says...

SaintBobbert wrote:
I was driving home from work when I heard the team sheet & thought, that'll do - a decent side put out, with the exception of Guly (been injured) ALL have featured in the Prem for the 1st Team of late.

Yes, Poch made some changes - but why does it seem that I'm the only one that thinks the TEAM under performed...
So, after going behind we take off our best player and give a debut to an 18 year old.... that was the players fault?
Starting with a second choice keeper, a tried and failed central partnership and a guy that wouldn't even get in a Subbetio Brazilian XI... that was the players fault?
Getting a guy called Jesus to come out and do the worst interview since that guy in Iraq said "we will win" with tanks in the background... maybe that was the players fault?
I realise Shaw, Steve, Wanyama, Maya and Lambert had awful games but the starting line up was wrong.... that was not the players.
[quote][p][bold]SaintBobbert[/bold] wrote: I was driving home from work when I heard the team sheet & thought, that'll do - a decent side put out, with the exception of Guly (been injured) ALL have featured in the Prem for the 1st Team of late. Yes, Poch made some changes - but why does it seem that I'm the only one that thinks the TEAM under performed...[/p][/quote]So, after going behind we take off our best player and give a debut to an 18 year old.... that was the players fault? Starting with a second choice keeper, a tried and failed central partnership and a guy that wouldn't even get in a Subbetio Brazilian XI... that was the players fault? Getting a guy called Jesus to come out and do the worst interview since that guy in Iraq said "we will win" with tanks in the background... maybe that was the players fault? I realise Shaw, Steve, Wanyama, Maya and Lambert had awful games but the starting line up was wrong.... that was not the players. Norwegian Saint

7:03pm Sat 15 Feb 14

bigfella777 says...

Simmo13 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
What a lot of miserable glory hunters, 1-0 away to a team on the rise with a top manager is not that bad.
I suppose Mourinho deserves to be sacked as well, it's the stupid midweek fixture that has caused this, there was no need for it.
Perhaps it could also be the fact Sunderland made 9 changes as well which basically made it their reserve side we were woeful
What would you rather have, the win on Tuesday night or another round of the FA cup?
[quote][p][bold]Simmo13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: What a lot of miserable glory hunters, 1-0 away to a team on the rise with a top manager is not that bad. I suppose Mourinho deserves to be sacked as well, it's the stupid midweek fixture that has caused this, there was no need for it.[/p][/quote]Perhaps it could also be the fact Sunderland made 9 changes as well which basically made it their reserve side we were woeful[/p][/quote]What would you rather have, the win on Tuesday night or another round of the FA cup? bigfella777

7:06pm Sat 15 Feb 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
SWAYTHLING SAINT wrote:
Well all the Guly fans got their wish and the maestro didn't deliver, as per usual. Shame we still don't have Danny Fox, he would have looked top draw today.
I don't know anyone who could be called a 'Guly fan'. What I do know is that there are plenty of posters who, unlike you, support the club and all its players, and don't waste their time picking on any one individual. There's a world of difference between the two positions and it serves no interest to distort the truth.
EXACTLEY. why has this awful display by the entire team been blamed on one player? the whole team were awful not just guly, so why single him out? the team selection was not the problem, it wasn't a second string team, fonte had very bad cuts to his shin so would have been doubtful so hoover replaced him, clyne had a chance to gain his starting place back, as did Big Vic and JWP, guly played instead of j-rod, a player who last season most of the moaners said was a waste of money, strange how they want him to play all the time now and for England!
again team selection was NOT the problem, the players were!. we can all sit there and say this that and the other player should have played but we/you don't know what the fitness levels etc of those players are.
if SRL had been dropped today the moaners would be saying that was the problem, he wasn't but with a performance like todays maybe he should have been.
nice to see so many people on here again though, just a shame that those of you who turn up to criticize the team and management when we lose don't bother to say how well we`ve done when we`ve won! most are also talking as if we had already won the cup, `id prefer a season of winning the cup and finishing 14 than finishing seventh and not winning it`? really? is that the options then? because we finished 14th last season but didn't win the cup.
as for JP`s interview, do you not think that the management might be as disappointed as us and are just `protecting` the players and not openly criticizing them, unlike many on here. yes its ok to be annoyed and peed off with that performance but its not ok to single certain players out when they were all as bad as each other!
(cue the hundreds of thumbs down, like I care)
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SWAYTHLING SAINT[/bold] wrote: Well all the Guly fans got their wish and the maestro didn't deliver, as per usual. Shame we still don't have Danny Fox, he would have looked top draw today.[/p][/quote]I don't know anyone who could be called a 'Guly fan'. What I do know is that there are plenty of posters who, unlike you, support the club and all its players, and don't waste their time picking on any one individual. There's a world of difference between the two positions and it serves no interest to distort the truth.[/p][/quote]EXACTLEY. why has this awful display by the entire team been blamed on one player? the whole team were awful not just guly, so why single him out? the team selection was not the problem, it wasn't a second string team, fonte had very bad cuts to his shin so would have been doubtful so hoover replaced him, clyne had a chance to gain his starting place back, as did Big Vic and JWP, guly played instead of j-rod, a player who last season most of the moaners said was a waste of money, strange how they want him to play all the time now and for England! again team selection was NOT the problem, the players were!. we can all sit there and say this that and the other player should have played but we/you don't know what the fitness levels etc of those players are. if SRL had been dropped today the moaners would be saying that was the problem, he wasn't but with a performance like todays maybe he should have been. nice to see so many people on here again though, just a shame that those of you who turn up to criticize the team and management when we lose don't bother to say how well we`ve done when we`ve won! most are also talking as if we had already won the cup, `id prefer a season of winning the cup and finishing 14 than finishing seventh and not winning it`? really? is that the options then? because we finished 14th last season but didn't win the cup. as for JP`s interview, do you not think that the management might be as disappointed as us and are just `protecting` the players and not openly criticizing them, unlike many on here. yes its ok to be annoyed and peed off with that performance but its not ok to single certain players out when they were all as bad as each other! (cue the hundreds of thumbs down, like I care) el caballo santos101

7:06pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Golden_Salamander wrote:
The priorities for the season were set at the start of the season.

In previous seasons the players have had trips to the South Of France and Las Vegas if they achieve the target that are SET AT THE START OF THE SEASON .(promotion from L1 & CC etc)

At the start of this season it was agreed between the ceo/chairman and the players/management that a TOP 8 finish !!!!!!!!!!!!! as the priority NOT cup games.

That is why the players played their hearts out on Tuesday night and got a result and today we played a weaken team today. and Pochettino takes no part in Cup games.
.
The Players and Management WILL be judged at the end of the season on whether they have met the objectives SET AT THE START OF THE SEASON i.e. a TOP 8 finish and Cup Games mean NOTHING !!!!!!!
I agree. As I pointed out last week just a league position or two is worth more money than winning the fa cup. The same argument holds good for champions league too. Arsenal have been happy for years to win nothing yet still keep the money rolling in. We may have to accept that we are owned by business people . The fans may not like it but at the end of the day we weren't likely to win the cup anyway. As much as the skunts like to crow about their cup wins the plain truth is that finishing top 8 in this day and age is a greater achievement by far.
Its a greater achievement from a business point of view,but not for the fans.The businessmen will eventually find that they are killing the goose that lays the golden egg though(the fans),because how many will bother to make a trip like that next year,after the fayre they were served up today?
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: The priorities for the season were set at the start of the season. In previous seasons the players have had trips to the South Of France and Las Vegas if they achieve the target that are SET AT THE START OF THE SEASON .(promotion from L1 & CC etc) At the start of this season it was agreed between the ceo/chairman and the players/management that a TOP 8 finish !!!!!!!!!!!!! as the priority NOT cup games. That is why the players played their hearts out on Tuesday night and got a result and today we played a weaken team today. and Pochettino takes no part in Cup games. . The Players and Management WILL be judged at the end of the season on whether they have met the objectives SET AT THE START OF THE SEASON i.e. a TOP 8 finish and Cup Games mean NOTHING !!!!!!![/p][/quote]I agree. As I pointed out last week just a league position or two is worth more money than winning the fa cup. The same argument holds good for champions league too. Arsenal have been happy for years to win nothing yet still keep the money rolling in. We may have to accept that we are owned by business people . The fans may not like it but at the end of the day we weren't likely to win the cup anyway. As much as the skunts like to crow about their cup wins the plain truth is that finishing top 8 in this day and age is a greater achievement by far.[/p][/quote]Its a greater achievement from a business point of view,but not for the fans.The businessmen will eventually find that they are killing the goose that lays the golden egg though(the fans),because how many will bother to make a trip like that next year,after the fayre they were served up today? Positively4thStreet

7:06pm Sat 15 Feb 14

St. Case says...

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH wrote:
ONE STATEMENT WILL SUM IT ALL UP.

F*CK OFF JESUS - YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING !!

We are the MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.

WE CONTINUE THE FIGHT IN THE LEAGUE - starting with taking down Wet Spam.

COYR
That's very disrespectful to our assistant manager. Are you a skate by any chance?
[quote][p][bold]REDARMYRULETHESOUTH[/bold] wrote: ONE STATEMENT WILL SUM IT ALL UP. F*CK OFF JESUS - YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING !! We are the MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON. WE CONTINUE THE FIGHT IN THE LEAGUE - starting with taking down Wet Spam. COYR[/p][/quote]That's very disrespectful to our assistant manager. Are you a skate by any chance? St. Case

7:06pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Crispinmumbles says...

Stop the World - I want to get off. What was Do Prado doing out there? What was that last substitution about? Why did we change the team so much. Pochettino obviously doesn't want to play in the Europa league and it seems that he is prepared to go some way to ensure we don't. Davis showing he can still do it (although distribution was lousy) was the one plus for me. Having said all that, Lambert's miss and the general half arsed nature of the display were symptomatic of the game. Why was Perez doing the interviews before and after? Not suggesting we threw it but just weren't bothered.

P.S Anyone have a map to lend our fishy friend in order that he may try to understand the difference in travelling down the road (70 Miles) from South London to the journey across a country partially underwater to Sunderland (316.9 Miles) . Near - Far Away as Father Ted would say.
Stop the World - I want to get off. What was Do Prado doing out there? What was that last substitution about? Why did we change the team so much. Pochettino obviously doesn't want to play in the Europa league and it seems that he is prepared to go some way to ensure we don't. Davis showing he can still do it (although distribution was lousy) was the one plus for me. Having said all that, Lambert's miss and the general half arsed nature of the display were symptomatic of the game. Why was Perez doing the interviews before and after? Not suggesting we threw it but just weren't bothered. P.S Anyone have a map to lend our fishy friend in order that he may try to understand the difference in travelling down the road (70 Miles) from South London to the journey across a country partially underwater to Sunderland (316.9 Miles) . Near - Far Away as Father Ted would say. Crispinmumbles

7:07pm Sat 15 Feb 14

st bevois says...

If you don't take your chances.............
....................
.........!!!! Old cliché I know. I am as disappointed as any poster on here to see us go out of the Cup in this manner and I feel for the travelling fans today. Its still raw I know - probably reflects the fact that so many of us could see that this really was a great opportunity this year - not just because of the draw and the fact that number of the bigger names are out but also because we actually have a team and to believe in. Even allowing for fact that I believe that you have a right to moan sometimes - some of the comments have been unbelievable. NA treated the Cup with similar distain - and the performance at Leeds in the League Cup was far worse than this. Even Ole Sloppy Chops put out a weakened team against Man U in the Quarters - 30,000 were short changed for that match - so that's nothing new here then same old same old - neither of them got the vitriol posted on here. Maybe that was because we didn't really believe under them. But change the manager????? Seriously???? After the best season in the League for how long? I notice not many made their feelings known when the teams were announced? Also I note that just about everyone has been slagged off but our front line forwards - two of whom missed great opportunities to get some sort of result today - as did WP in the first half. Taking chances can change the complexion of a match and put the pressure on the opposition. As for those waning JRod in - he has missed the target with free headers in several of the recent games - including crucial tight games with Sunderland and Stoke - need players to take the chances when its tight and had fought -to break the deadlock - or recover the position like today. Don't get me wrong - I love them for what they have achieved to date but they are by no means the finished article. We have been failing to take opportunities like that all season. - this could have been an unbelievable season with better finishing. The commentators were all saying that the only bit of quality in the match was the goal - precisely, because of the finishing!!! But not accurate by any means - there wasn't much quality but we crated 3 great chances with quality football:the finishing didn't match the football that made the chances!!! Could have been a different result today and from one of the not so good performances. Should have had a draw at east and I would have taken that. I think that Warren and one or two others have said the same thing recently. Like an old darts quote "Trebles for show, doubles for gold!! We are not hitting enough doubles. Otherwise half of this wouldn't be on here There is still much to play for in the Prem - we have put ourselves into the next group. The last thing we want to see is a tailing off of performances and some of those below catching us.
If you don't take your chances............. .................... .........!!!! Old cliché I know. I am as disappointed as any poster on here to see us go out of the Cup in this manner and I feel for the travelling fans today. Its still raw I know - probably reflects the fact that so many of us could see that this really was a great opportunity this year - not just because of the draw and the fact that number of the bigger names are out but also because we actually have a team and to believe in. Even allowing for fact that I believe that you have a right to moan sometimes - some of the comments have been unbelievable. NA treated the Cup with similar distain - and the performance at Leeds in the League Cup was far worse than this. Even Ole Sloppy Chops put out a weakened team against Man U in the Quarters - 30,000 were short changed for that match - so that's nothing new here then same old same old - neither of them got the vitriol posted on here. Maybe that was because we didn't really believe under them. But change the manager????? Seriously???? After the best season in the League for how long? I notice not many made their feelings known when the teams were announced? Also I note that just about everyone has been slagged off but our front line forwards - two of whom missed great opportunities to get some sort of result today - as did WP in the first half. Taking chances can change the complexion of a match and put the pressure on the opposition. As for those waning JRod in - he has missed the target with free headers in several of the recent games - including crucial tight games with Sunderland and Stoke - need players to take the chances when its tight and had fought -to break the deadlock - or recover the position like today. Don't get me wrong - I love them for what they have achieved to date but they are by no means the finished article. We have been failing to take opportunities like that all season. - this could have been an unbelievable season with better finishing. The commentators were all saying that the only bit of quality in the match was the goal - precisely, because of the finishing!!! But not accurate by any means - there wasn't much quality but we crated 3 great chances with quality football:the finishing didn't match the football that made the chances!!! Could have been a different result today and from one of the not so good performances. Should have had a draw at east and I would have taken that. I think that Warren and one or two others have said the same thing recently. Like an old darts quote "Trebles for show, doubles for gold!! We are not hitting enough doubles. Otherwise half of this wouldn't be on here There is still much to play for in the Prem - we have put ourselves into the next group. The last thing we want to see is a tailing off of performances and some of those below catching us. st bevois

7:15pm Sat 15 Feb 14

harry saint says...

Don't forget to buy your Norwich tickets and get your 20 loyalty points for......what exactly??
Don't forget to buy your Norwich tickets and get your 20 loyalty points for......what exactly?? harry saint

7:16pm Sat 15 Feb 14

WobblyCat says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Golden_Salamander wrote:
The priorities for the season were set at the start of the season.

In previous seasons the players have had trips to the South Of France and Las Vegas if they achieve the target that are SET AT THE START OF THE SEASON .(promotion from L1 & CC etc)

At the start of this season it was agreed between the ceo/chairman and the players/management that a TOP 8 finish !!!!!!!!!!!!! as the priority NOT cup games.

That is why the players played their hearts out on Tuesday night and got a result and today we played a weaken team today. and Pochettino takes no part in Cup games.
.
The Players and Management WILL be judged at the end of the season on whether they have met the objectives SET AT THE START OF THE SEASON i.e. a TOP 8 finish and Cup Games mean NOTHING !!!!!!!
I agree. As I pointed out last week just a league position or two is worth more money than winning the fa cup. The same argument holds good for champions league too. Arsenal have been happy for years to win nothing yet still keep the money rolling in. We may have to accept that we are owned by business people . The fans may not like it but at the end of the day we weren't likely to win the cup anyway. As much as the skunts like to crow about their cup wins the plain truth is that finishing top 8 in this day and age is a greater achievement by far.
The 1976 win was one of the greatest days in the clubs history, sad to see fans saying the fa cup means nothing and advocating cash over glory.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: The priorities for the season were set at the start of the season. In previous seasons the players have had trips to the South Of France and Las Vegas if they achieve the target that are SET AT THE START OF THE SEASON .(promotion from L1 & CC etc) At the start of this season it was agreed between the ceo/chairman and the players/management that a TOP 8 finish !!!!!!!!!!!!! as the priority NOT cup games. That is why the players played their hearts out on Tuesday night and got a result and today we played a weaken team today. and Pochettino takes no part in Cup games. . The Players and Management WILL be judged at the end of the season on whether they have met the objectives SET AT THE START OF THE SEASON i.e. a TOP 8 finish and Cup Games mean NOTHING !!!!!!![/p][/quote]I agree. As I pointed out last week just a league position or two is worth more money than winning the fa cup. The same argument holds good for champions league too. Arsenal have been happy for years to win nothing yet still keep the money rolling in. We may have to accept that we are owned by business people . The fans may not like it but at the end of the day we weren't likely to win the cup anyway. As much as the skunts like to crow about their cup wins the plain truth is that finishing top 8 in this day and age is a greater achievement by far.[/p][/quote]The 1976 win was one of the greatest days in the clubs history, sad to see fans saying the fa cup means nothing and advocating cash over glory. WobblyCat

7:22pm Sat 15 Feb 14

SaintBobbert says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
SaintBobbert wrote:
I was driving home from work when I heard the team sheet & thought, that'll do - a decent side put out, with the exception of Guly (been injured) ALL have featured in the Prem for the 1st Team of late.

Yes, Poch made some changes - but why does it seem that I'm the only one that thinks the TEAM under performed...
So, after going behind we take off our best player and give a debut to an 18 year old.... that was the players fault?
Starting with a second choice keeper, a tried and failed central partnership and a guy that wouldn't even get in a Subbetio Brazilian XI... that was the players fault?
Getting a guy called Jesus to come out and do the worst interview since that guy in Iraq said "we will win" with tanks in the background... maybe that was the players fault?
I realise Shaw, Steve, Wanyama, Maya and Lambert had awful games but the starting line up was wrong.... that was not the players.
I understand yours points Norwegian Saint - but that 11/18 were good enough (on paper !) to beat Sunderland today.
Perez has been doing all of the Cup Media stuff since arriving.
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintBobbert[/bold] wrote: I was driving home from work when I heard the team sheet & thought, that'll do - a decent side put out, with the exception of Guly (been injured) ALL have featured in the Prem for the 1st Team of late. Yes, Poch made some changes - but why does it seem that I'm the only one that thinks the TEAM under performed...[/p][/quote]So, after going behind we take off our best player and give a debut to an 18 year old.... that was the players fault? Starting with a second choice keeper, a tried and failed central partnership and a guy that wouldn't even get in a Subbetio Brazilian XI... that was the players fault? Getting a guy called Jesus to come out and do the worst interview since that guy in Iraq said "we will win" with tanks in the background... maybe that was the players fault? I realise Shaw, Steve, Wanyama, Maya and Lambert had awful games but the starting line up was wrong.... that was not the players.[/p][/quote]I understand yours points Norwegian Saint - but that 11/18 were good enough (on paper !) to beat Sunderland today. Perez has been doing all of the Cup Media stuff since arriving. SaintBobbert

7:34pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Clever Dick says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
Golden_Salamander wrote:
The priorities for the season were set at the start of the season.

In previous seasons the players have had trips to the South Of France and Las Vegas if they achieve the target that are SET AT THE START OF THE SEASON .(promotion from L1 & CC etc)

At the start of this season it was agreed between the ceo/chairman and the players/management that a TOP 8 finish !!!!!!!!!!!!! as the priority NOT cup games.

That is why the players played their hearts out on Tuesday night and got a result and today we played a weaken team today. and Pochettino takes no part in Cup games.
.
The Players and Management WILL be judged at the end of the season on whether they have met the objectives SET AT THE START OF THE SEASON i.e. a TOP 8 finish and Cup Games mean NOTHING !!!!!!!
I agree. As I pointed out last week just a league position or two is worth more money than winning the fa cup. The same argument holds good for champions league too. Arsenal have been happy for years to win nothing yet still keep the money rolling in. We may have to accept that we are owned by business people . The fans may not like it but at the end of the day we weren't likely to win the cup anyway. As much as the skunts like to crow about their cup wins the plain truth is that finishing top 8 in this day and age is a greater achievement by far.
Its a greater achievement from a business point of view,but not for the fans.The businessmen will eventually find that they are killing the goose that lays the golden egg though(the fans),because how many will bother to make a trip like that next year,after the fayre they were served up today?
I think you will find that the 800 or so who travelled up are mainly the diehard fans who would travel anyway , even if we put out our youth team. And the income generated in comparison to prize money is minimal. The fact remains that this has been a fantastic season so far. This result won't affect how many fans travel to league games. Unfortunately the fans are a much lower source of income than all the SKY money, worldwide rights and other TV related income. Arsenal fans have been complaining for years about lack of trophies but they still fill their ground every week. We will continue to do the same if the standard of play continues to be right up there, regardless of how well we do in the cups. Fair play to anybody who made the journey today but I didn't hear them complaining about our weaker sides in the earlier rounds. Why? Because we won them.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: The priorities for the season were set at the start of the season. In previous seasons the players have had trips to the South Of France and Las Vegas if they achieve the target that are SET AT THE START OF THE SEASON .(promotion from L1 & CC etc) At the start of this season it was agreed between the ceo/chairman and the players/management that a TOP 8 finish !!!!!!!!!!!!! as the priority NOT cup games. That is why the players played their hearts out on Tuesday night and got a result and today we played a weaken team today. and Pochettino takes no part in Cup games. . The Players and Management WILL be judged at the end of the season on whether they have met the objectives SET AT THE START OF THE SEASON i.e. a TOP 8 finish and Cup Games mean NOTHING !!!!!!![/p][/quote]I agree. As I pointed out last week just a league position or two is worth more money than winning the fa cup. The same argument holds good for champions league too. Arsenal have been happy for years to win nothing yet still keep the money rolling in. We may have to accept that we are owned by business people . The fans may not like it but at the end of the day we weren't likely to win the cup anyway. As much as the skunts like to crow about their cup wins the plain truth is that finishing top 8 in this day and age is a greater achievement by far.[/p][/quote]Its a greater achievement from a business point of view,but not for the fans.The businessmen will eventually find that they are killing the goose that lays the golden egg though(the fans),because how many will bother to make a trip like that next year,after the fayre they were served up today?[/p][/quote]I think you will find that the 800 or so who travelled up are mainly the diehard fans who would travel anyway , even if we put out our youth team. And the income generated in comparison to prize money is minimal. The fact remains that this has been a fantastic season so far. This result won't affect how many fans travel to league games. Unfortunately the fans are a much lower source of income than all the SKY money, worldwide rights and other TV related income. Arsenal fans have been complaining for years about lack of trophies but they still fill their ground every week. We will continue to do the same if the standard of play continues to be right up there, regardless of how well we do in the cups. Fair play to anybody who made the journey today but I didn't hear them complaining about our weaker sides in the earlier rounds. Why? Because we won them. Clever Dick

7:42pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Thornhill Saint says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
SWAYTHLING SAINT wrote:
Well all the Guly fans got their wish and the maestro didn't deliver, as per usual. Shame we still don't have Danny Fox, he would have looked top draw today.
I don't know anyone who could be called a 'Guly fan'. What I do know is that there are plenty of posters who, unlike you, support the club and all its players, and don't waste their time picking on any one individual. There's a world of difference between the two positions and it serves no interest to distort the truth.
EXACTLEY. why has this awful display by the entire team been blamed on one player? the whole team were awful not just guly, so why single him out? the team selection was not the problem, it wasn't a second string team, fonte had very bad cuts to his shin so would have been doubtful so hoover replaced him, clyne had a chance to gain his starting place back, as did Big Vic and JWP, guly played instead of j-rod, a player who last season most of the moaners said was a waste of money, strange how they want him to play all the time now and for England!
again team selection was NOT the problem, the players were!. we can all sit there and say this that and the other player should have played but we/you don't know what the fitness levels etc of those players are.
if SRL had been dropped today the moaners would be saying that was the problem, he wasn't but with a performance like todays maybe he should have been.
nice to see so many people on here again though, just a shame that those of you who turn up to criticize the team and management when we lose don't bother to say how well we`ve done when we`ve won! most are also talking as if we had already won the cup, `id prefer a season of winning the cup and finishing 14 than finishing seventh and not winning it`? really? is that the options then? because we finished 14th last season but didn't win the cup.
as for JP`s interview, do you not think that the management might be as disappointed as us and are just `protecting` the players and not openly criticizing them, unlike many on here. yes its ok to be annoyed and peed off with that performance but its not ok to single certain players out when they were all as bad as each other!
(cue the hundreds of thumbs down, like I care)
A very good post. The point he has made 1) we don't have a squad with deph 2) They need to protect suad 3) Bearing both those things in mind they fielded the strongest tea they could.

I would have loved (LOVED) to see our first 11 wipe the floor with Sunderland but it was not to be. The team selected today should have got te job done and it was dissapointing. I am gutted but some of the bile directed at Jesus, MOPO certain players on here is ridiclous and a tad out of order in my opinion.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SWAYTHLING SAINT[/bold] wrote: Well all the Guly fans got their wish and the maestro didn't deliver, as per usual. Shame we still don't have Danny Fox, he would have looked top draw today.[/p][/quote]I don't know anyone who could be called a 'Guly fan'. What I do know is that there are plenty of posters who, unlike you, support the club and all its players, and don't waste their time picking on any one individual. There's a world of difference between the two positions and it serves no interest to distort the truth.[/p][/quote]EXACTLEY. why has this awful display by the entire team been blamed on one player? the whole team were awful not just guly, so why single him out? the team selection was not the problem, it wasn't a second string team, fonte had very bad cuts to his shin so would have been doubtful so hoover replaced him, clyne had a chance to gain his starting place back, as did Big Vic and JWP, guly played instead of j-rod, a player who last season most of the moaners said was a waste of money, strange how they want him to play all the time now and for England! again team selection was NOT the problem, the players were!. we can all sit there and say this that and the other player should have played but we/you don't know what the fitness levels etc of those players are. if SRL had been dropped today the moaners would be saying that was the problem, he wasn't but with a performance like todays maybe he should have been. nice to see so many people on here again though, just a shame that those of you who turn up to criticize the team and management when we lose don't bother to say how well we`ve done when we`ve won! most are also talking as if we had already won the cup, `id prefer a season of winning the cup and finishing 14 than finishing seventh and not winning it`? really? is that the options then? because we finished 14th last season but didn't win the cup. as for JP`s interview, do you not think that the management might be as disappointed as us and are just `protecting` the players and not openly criticizing them, unlike many on here. yes its ok to be annoyed and peed off with that performance but its not ok to single certain players out when they were all as bad as each other! (cue the hundreds of thumbs down, like I care)[/p][/quote]A very good post. The point he has made 1) we don't have a squad with deph 2) They need to protect suad 3) Bearing both those things in mind they fielded the strongest tea they could. I would have loved (LOVED) to see our first 11 wipe the floor with Sunderland but it was not to be. The team selected today should have got te job done and it was dissapointing. I am gutted but some of the bile directed at Jesus, MOPO certain players on here is ridiclous and a tad out of order in my opinion. Thornhill Saint

7:47pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Simmo13 says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Simmo13 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
What a lot of miserable glory hunters, 1-0 away to a team on the rise with a top manager is not that bad.
I suppose Mourinho deserves to be sacked as well, it's the stupid midweek fixture that has caused this, there was no need for it.
Perhaps it could also be the fact Sunderland made 9 changes as well which basically made it their reserve side we were woeful
What would you rather have, the win on Tuesday night or another round of the FA cup?
I would rather have a team that put up a fight rather than rolled over as we did today and if you really want to know the win on Tuesday night was more important to me. The last game I saw such a gutless performance was when Leeds turned us over up at Elland Road and I was there and today was just as bad.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simmo13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: What a lot of miserable glory hunters, 1-0 away to a team on the rise with a top manager is not that bad. I suppose Mourinho deserves to be sacked as well, it's the stupid midweek fixture that has caused this, there was no need for it.[/p][/quote]Perhaps it could also be the fact Sunderland made 9 changes as well which basically made it their reserve side we were woeful[/p][/quote]What would you rather have, the win on Tuesday night or another round of the FA cup?[/p][/quote]I would rather have a team that put up a fight rather than rolled over as we did today and if you really want to know the win on Tuesday night was more important to me. The last game I saw such a gutless performance was when Leeds turned us over up at Elland Road and I was there and today was just as bad. Simmo13

7:53pm Sat 15 Feb 14

costa gaz says...

Does anyone else find it bizarre that the assistant manager takes charge for cup games....
Just can't get my head around that one.
As soon as the team was announced I got a few €'s on a home win, easiest money I'll ever make... we lost before a ball was kicked.
Before today I was thinking that we could.possibly finish above Man Utd in the league, not really sure that the club has any intention to attempt this now.

One positive to take from today is that Osprey does not comment on here anymore.
Does anyone else find it bizarre that the assistant manager takes charge for cup games.... Just can't get my head around that one. As soon as the team was announced I got a few €'s on a home win, easiest money I'll ever make... we lost before a ball was kicked. Before today I was thinking that we could.possibly finish above Man Utd in the league, not really sure that the club has any intention to attempt this now. One positive to take from today is that Osprey does not comment on here anymore. costa gaz

8:00pm Sat 15 Feb 14

bullsbags says...

Now is the time to vote with our feet
If we get a home draw in either cup comp next season
DONT GO
Half the prob revolves around foreign managers. They don't understand the importance of the FA cup to English soccer fans
Now is the time to vote with our feet If we get a home draw in either cup comp next season DONT GO Half the prob revolves around foreign managers. They don't understand the importance of the FA cup to English soccer fans bullsbags

8:04pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Simmo13 says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Simmo13 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
What a lot of miserable glory hunters, 1-0 away to a team on the rise with a top manager is not that bad.
I suppose Mourinho deserves to be sacked as well, it's the stupid midweek fixture that has caused this, there was no need for it.
Perhaps it could also be the fact Sunderland made 9 changes as well which basically made it their reserve side we were woeful
What would you rather have, the win on Tuesday night or another round of the FA cup?
I would rather have a team that put up a fight rather than rolled over as we did today and if you really want to know the win on Tuesday night was more important to me. The last game I saw such a gutless performance was when Leeds turned us over up at Elland Road and I was there and today was just as bad.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simmo13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: What a lot of miserable glory hunters, 1-0 away to a team on the rise with a top manager is not that bad. I suppose Mourinho deserves to be sacked as well, it's the stupid midweek fixture that has caused this, there was no need for it.[/p][/quote]Perhaps it could also be the fact Sunderland made 9 changes as well which basically made it their reserve side we were woeful[/p][/quote]What would you rather have, the win on Tuesday night or another round of the FA cup?[/p][/quote]I would rather have a team that put up a fight rather than rolled over as we did today and if you really want to know the win on Tuesday night was more important to me. The last game I saw such a gutless performance was when Leeds turned us over up at Elland Road and I was there and today was just as bad. Simmo13

8:08pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Thornhill Saint says...

bullsbags wrote:
Now is the time to vote with our feet
If we get a home draw in either cup comp next season
DONT GO
Half the prob revolves around foreign managers. They don't understand the importance of the FA cup to English soccer fans
I think half our fans do that any way (Have you been to a cup match recently?)
[quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: Now is the time to vote with our feet If we get a home draw in either cup comp next season DONT GO Half the prob revolves around foreign managers. They don't understand the importance of the FA cup to English soccer fans[/p][/quote]I think half our fans do that any way (Have you been to a cup match recently?) Thornhill Saint

8:09pm Sat 15 Feb 14

miltonnroad76 says...

One of the most gutless lifeless performances ive ever seen from saints in a cup match..i could understand if was league game and they saved themselves for cup game ...only positves are no injurys ....and we are safe ...was a good time to have a cup run ...dont think selection helped but they were all off color today..tired maybe compared to fresh sunderland team,.
One of the most gutless lifeless performances ive ever seen from saints in a cup match..i could understand if was league game and they saved themselves for cup game ...only positves are no injurys ....and we are safe ...was a good time to have a cup run ...dont think selection helped but they were all off color today..tired maybe compared to fresh sunderland team,. miltonnroad76

8:13pm Sat 15 Feb 14

DisplacedFan says...

costa gaz wrote:
Does anyone else find it bizarre that the assistant manager takes charge for cup games....
Just can't get my head around that one.
As soon as the team was announced I got a few €'s on a home win, easiest money I'll ever make... we lost before a ball was kicked.
Before today I was thinking that we could.possibly finish above Man Utd in the league, not really sure that the club has any intention to attempt this now.

One positive to take from today is that Osprey does not comment on here anymore.
Ha! I doubt that.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Does anyone else find it bizarre that the assistant manager takes charge for cup games.... Just can't get my head around that one. As soon as the team was announced I got a few €'s on a home win, easiest money I'll ever make... we lost before a ball was kicked. Before today I was thinking that we could.possibly finish above Man Utd in the league, not really sure that the club has any intention to attempt this now. One positive to take from today is that Osprey does not comment on here anymore.[/p][/quote]Ha! I doubt that. DisplacedFan

8:13pm Sat 15 Feb 14

donni1437 says...

Why are fans getting so irate about this? We hardly put a youth team out. I just heard a few saints fans on BBC 5 live whinging and moaning about Poch. They sounded like Man U fans and a total disgrace. One even made out Poch lost on purpose so he could go the end of the season!!!!!! Get a grip ffs, why not pick out SRL missing a sitter or Lala having an off game?

We know Poch's cup policy so why the backlash. He picked a side that he thought, and was, good enough to beat Sunderland. The players were the ones who were poor today, not Poch. Deal with the fact that we weren't good enough and move on. 6th is still up for grabs in the league so no big deal we're out the cup.
Why are fans getting so irate about this? We hardly put a youth team out. I just heard a few saints fans on BBC 5 live whinging and moaning about Poch. They sounded like Man U fans and a total disgrace. One even made out Poch lost on purpose so he could go the end of the season!!!!!! Get a grip ffs, why not pick out SRL missing a sitter or Lala having an off game? We know Poch's cup policy so why the backlash. He picked a side that he thought, and was, good enough to beat Sunderland. The players were the ones who were poor today, not Poch. Deal with the fact that we weren't good enough and move on. 6th is still up for grabs in the league so no big deal we're out the cup. donni1437

8:16pm Sat 15 Feb 14

wellow saint says...

What a waste of an opportunity. If we played Cork,Rodriguez,Fonte
,etc we would have won easily.As soon as you saw Guly In the team you knew we were not serious. Picking someone who is on minus 1 goal in the premier league and not scored in the right end for over 2 years says it all !
What a waste of an opportunity. If we played Cork,Rodriguez,Fonte ,etc we would have won easily.As soon as you saw Guly In the team you knew we were not serious. Picking someone who is on minus 1 goal in the premier league and not scored in the right end for over 2 years says it all ! wellow saint

8:16pm Sat 15 Feb 14

donni1437 says...

bullsbags wrote:
Now is the time to vote with our feet
If we get a home draw in either cup comp next season
DONT GO
Half the prob revolves around foreign managers. They don't understand the importance of the FA cup to English soccer fans
It's football not soccer, most English fans know that
[quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: Now is the time to vote with our feet If we get a home draw in either cup comp next season DONT GO Half the prob revolves around foreign managers. They don't understand the importance of the FA cup to English soccer fans[/p][/quote]It's football not soccer, most English fans know that donni1437

8:18pm Sat 15 Feb 14

FindAndDestroy says...

Enough said bout the team selection, I know **** well a couple of players were missing but the fact is we were just lethargic......
i don't know whether that was due to lack of sleep or something...........
... and I don't really know how did Ricky miss that chance??? unbelievable!!!!!

Like what everyone is saying...those traveling fans sure deserved better....600 of them....

Maybe MoPo doesn't know how much the FA cup means to us....
Anyway my mate Tom is waiting for me down the pub, i need a couple of pints
Enough said bout the team selection, I know **** well a couple of players were missing but the fact is we were just lethargic...... i don't know whether that was due to lack of sleep or something........... ... and I don't really know how did Ricky miss that chance??? unbelievable!!!!! Like what everyone is saying...those traveling fans sure deserved better....600 of them.... Maybe MoPo doesn't know how much the FA cup means to us.... Anyway my mate Tom is waiting for me down the pub, i need a couple of pints FindAndDestroy

8:29pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Positively4thStreet says...

miltonnroad76 wrote:
One of the most gutless lifeless performances ive ever seen from saints in a cup match..i could understand if was league game and they saved themselves for cup game ...only positves are no injurys ....and we are safe ...was a good time to have a cup run ...dont think selection helped but they were all off color today..tired maybe compared to fresh sunderland team,.
I don't understand why tiredness is ever used as an excuse in today's modern game.Forty or fifty years ago,footballers were playing on pitches that resembled the Somme during the winter months,and usually after just turning out of the pub,and stubbing out their fags on the goalposts,and yet they would still turn on a performance.There's no excuse in this day and age,when fitness and health is monitored to the Nth degree, and players are more like athletes,to use tiredness,as a reason for a poor performance;more like lack of desire.
[quote][p][bold]miltonnroad76[/bold] wrote: One of the most gutless lifeless performances ive ever seen from saints in a cup match..i could understand if was league game and they saved themselves for cup game ...only positves are no injurys ....and we are safe ...was a good time to have a cup run ...dont think selection helped but they were all off color today..tired maybe compared to fresh sunderland team,.[/p][/quote]I don't understand why tiredness is ever used as an excuse in today's modern game.Forty or fifty years ago,footballers were playing on pitches that resembled the Somme during the winter months,and usually after just turning out of the pub,and stubbing out their fags on the goalposts,and yet they would still turn on a performance.There's no excuse in this day and age,when fitness and health is monitored to the Nth degree, and players are more like athletes,to use tiredness,as a reason for a poor performance;more like lack of desire. Positively4thStreet

8:29pm Sat 15 Feb 14

4stands says...

Disgraceful!!! - and on the day that Tom Finney dies, your non english speaking manager treats the FA Cup with utter contempt............
.. sfc are the SHAME of the South Coast - Up the CHERRIES!!
Disgraceful!!! - and on the day that Tom Finney dies, your non english speaking manager treats the FA Cup with utter contempt............ .. sfc are the SHAME of the South Coast - Up the CHERRIES!! 4stands

8:36pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Norwegian Saint says...

4stands wrote:
Disgraceful!!! - and on the day that Tom Finney dies, your non english speaking manager treats the FA Cup with utter contempt............

.. sfc are the SHAME of the South Coast - Up the CHERRIES!!
Oh dear.... I like the cherries but have to say you sound a right dic* and embarrass and shame your club by saying that statement. Sir Tom Finney loved all football and you come on here with pathetic quotes
Our manager does speak English, his side-kick made the poor interview.
[quote][p][bold]4stands[/bold] wrote: Disgraceful!!! - and on the day that Tom Finney dies, your non english speaking manager treats the FA Cup with utter contempt............ .. sfc are the SHAME of the South Coast - Up the CHERRIES!![/p][/quote]Oh dear.... I like the cherries but have to say you sound a right dic* and embarrass and shame your club by saying that statement. Sir Tom Finney loved all football and you come on here with pathetic quotes Our manager does speak English, his side-kick made the poor interview. Norwegian Saint

8:38pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Steve in Swindon says...

Don't understand all this stuff about our priority being a 'top 8' finish and sod the FA Cup.

You won't see Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal or Liverpool putting out second string teams this weekend - wonder why they can all manage to focus on the Premier title AND the FA Cup (& the Champions League) at the same time?

City played practically their strongest team tonight and yet they are playing Barcelona on Tuesday night. Who are we playing in midweek? Oh I forgot - nobody!!!

We're safe from relegation by a country mile so why not have a real crack at the Cup. We've got nothing else to play for this season.

Saints and Pochetinno in particular are getting a right slating on 606 tonight from both the pundits and the 'phone-ins'. Rightly so too!

As I understand it we're not interested in a top 6 finish because Poch doesn't fancy the Europa League either. Maybe we should just declare now rather than go through the motions till the end of the season (after all we're almost safe already).

Feel sorry for the fans who got up at god knows what time this morning and spent hard earned cash to watch such a dismal performance. players.

And a final suggestion for the (probably) highly paid PR team at St.Mary's - don't put that clown Jesus in front of the TV cameras again - it was embarasing.
Don't understand all this stuff about our priority being a 'top 8' finish and sod the FA Cup. You won't see Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal or Liverpool putting out second string teams this weekend - wonder why they can all manage to focus on the Premier title AND the FA Cup (& the Champions League) at the same time? City played practically their strongest team tonight and yet they are playing Barcelona on Tuesday night. Who are we playing in midweek? Oh I forgot - nobody!!! We're safe from relegation by a country mile so why not have a real crack at the Cup. We've got nothing else to play for this season. Saints and Pochetinno in particular are getting a right slating on 606 tonight from both the pundits and the 'phone-ins'. Rightly so too! As I understand it we're not interested in a top 6 finish because Poch doesn't fancy the Europa League either. Maybe we should just declare now rather than go through the motions till the end of the season (after all we're almost safe already). Feel sorry for the fans who got up at god knows what time this morning and spent hard earned cash to watch such a dismal performance. players. And a final suggestion for the (probably) highly paid PR team at St.Mary's - don't put that clown Jesus in front of the TV cameras again - it was embarasing. Steve in Swindon

8:39pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
SWAYTHLING SAINT wrote:
Well all the Guly fans got their wish and the maestro didn't deliver, as per usual. Shame we still don't have Danny Fox, he would have looked top draw today.
I don't know anyone who could be called a 'Guly fan'. What I do know is that there are plenty of posters who, unlike you, support the club and all its players, and don't waste their time picking on any one individual. There's a world of difference between the two positions and it serves no interest to distort the truth.
EXACTLEY. why has this awful display by the entire team been blamed on one player? the whole team were awful not just guly, so why single him out? the team selection was not the problem, it wasn't a second string team, fonte had very bad cuts to his shin so would have been doubtful so hoover replaced him, clyne had a chance to gain his starting place back, as did Big Vic and JWP, guly played instead of j-rod, a player who last season most of the moaners said was a waste of money, strange how they want him to play all the time now and for England!
again team selection was NOT the problem, the players were!. we can all sit there and say this that and the other player should have played but we/you don't know what the fitness levels etc of those players are.
if SRL had been dropped today the moaners would be saying that was the problem, he wasn't but with a performance like todays maybe he should have been.
nice to see so many people on here again though, just a shame that those of you who turn up to criticize the team and management when we lose don't bother to say how well we`ve done when we`ve won! most are also talking as if we had already won the cup, `id prefer a season of winning the cup and finishing 14 than finishing seventh and not winning it`? really? is that the options then? because we finished 14th last season but didn't win the cup.
as for JP`s interview, do you not think that the management might be as disappointed as us and are just `protecting` the players and not openly criticizing them, unlike many on here. yes its ok to be annoyed and peed off with that performance but its not ok to single certain players out when they were all as bad as each other!
(cue the hundreds of thumbs down, like I care)
A very good post. The point he has made 1) we don't have a squad with deph 2) They need to protect suad 3) Bearing both those things in mind they fielded the strongest tea they could.

I would have loved (LOVED) to see our first 11 wipe the floor with Sunderland but it was not to be. The team selected today should have got te job done and it was dissapointing. I am gutted but some of the bile directed at Jesus, MOPO certain players on here is ridiclous and a tad out of order in my opinion.
I think we're in the minority tonight. We've had too many good games and this evening has become some people's belated opportunity to pick on the usual suspects.

My gripe isn't the roatation of players but that the management clearly prioritised the Hull game (and a chance of a higher league position - but not too high or we'll be in danger of having to play in the Europa League) over a great chance to win the Cup. By fielding more or less the same team against both Stoike and Hull, it left us vulnerable to having to make wholesale changes today. The players fielded were more than capable but collectively, they lacked the cohesion of recent weeks.
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SWAYTHLING SAINT[/bold] wrote: Well all the Guly fans got their wish and the maestro didn't deliver, as per usual. Shame we still don't have Danny Fox, he would have looked top draw today.[/p][/quote]I don't know anyone who could be called a 'Guly fan'. What I do know is that there are plenty of posters who, unlike you, support the club and all its players, and don't waste their time picking on any one individual. There's a world of difference between the two positions and it serves no interest to distort the truth.[/p][/quote]EXACTLEY. why has this awful display by the entire team been blamed on one player? the whole team were awful not just guly, so why single him out? the team selection was not the problem, it wasn't a second string team, fonte had very bad cuts to his shin so would have been doubtful so hoover replaced him, clyne had a chance to gain his starting place back, as did Big Vic and JWP, guly played instead of j-rod, a player who last season most of the moaners said was a waste of money, strange how they want him to play all the time now and for England! again team selection was NOT the problem, the players were!. we can all sit there and say this that and the other player should have played but we/you don't know what the fitness levels etc of those players are. if SRL had been dropped today the moaners would be saying that was the problem, he wasn't but with a performance like todays maybe he should have been. nice to see so many people on here again though, just a shame that those of you who turn up to criticize the team and management when we lose don't bother to say how well we`ve done when we`ve won! most are also talking as if we had already won the cup, `id prefer a season of winning the cup and finishing 14 than finishing seventh and not winning it`? really? is that the options then? because we finished 14th last season but didn't win the cup. as for JP`s interview, do you not think that the management might be as disappointed as us and are just `protecting` the players and not openly criticizing them, unlike many on here. yes its ok to be annoyed and peed off with that performance but its not ok to single certain players out when they were all as bad as each other! (cue the hundreds of thumbs down, like I care)[/p][/quote]A very good post. The point he has made 1) we don't have a squad with deph 2) They need to protect suad 3) Bearing both those things in mind they fielded the strongest tea they could. I would have loved (LOVED) to see our first 11 wipe the floor with Sunderland but it was not to be. The team selected today should have got te job done and it was dissapointing. I am gutted but some of the bile directed at Jesus, MOPO certain players on here is ridiclous and a tad out of order in my opinion.[/p][/quote]I think we're in the minority tonight. We've had too many good games and this evening has become some people's belated opportunity to pick on the usual suspects. My gripe isn't the roatation of players but that the management clearly prioritised the Hull game (and a chance of a higher league position - but not too high or we'll be in danger of having to play in the Europa League) over a great chance to win the Cup. By fielding more or less the same team against both Stoike and Hull, it left us vulnerable to having to make wholesale changes today. The players fielded were more than capable but collectively, they lacked the cohesion of recent weeks. Strasbourg Saint

8:40pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Wozzie says...

donni1437 wrote:
bullsbags wrote:
Now is the time to vote with our feet
If we get a home draw in either cup comp next season
DONT GO
Half the prob revolves around foreign managers. They don't understand the importance of the FA cup to English soccer fans
It's football not soccer, most English fans know that
The FA cup is so important to football fans that the stadium was full to capacity then?
[quote][p][bold]donni1437[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: Now is the time to vote with our feet If we get a home draw in either cup comp next season DONT GO Half the prob revolves around foreign managers. They don't understand the importance of the FA cup to English soccer fans[/p][/quote]It's football not soccer, most English fans know that[/p][/quote]The FA cup is so important to football fans that the stadium was full to capacity then? Wozzie

8:43pm Sat 15 Feb 14

bluewhiteandred says...

Abbey Saint wrote:
sorry, but his comments are total c0ck.

This was NOT Saints strongest side, and to say he was just a "little sad" to be knocked out of THE FA CUP at this late stage when we have nothing else to play for this season (Poch has already said the uefa cup is not useful) disrespects the FA cup, the travelling fans and the Saints history.
I have had sleepless nights thinking Saints would win the cup 8th in Prem and three fine wins and they drop your best ? we had almost the same crowd in div 2 whats going on ?
[quote][p][bold]Abbey Saint[/bold] wrote: sorry, but his comments are total c0ck. This was NOT Saints strongest side, and to say he was just a "little sad" to be knocked out of THE FA CUP at this late stage when we have nothing else to play for this season (Poch has already said the uefa cup is not useful) disrespects the FA cup, the travelling fans and the Saints history.[/p][/quote]I have had sleepless nights thinking Saints would win the cup 8th in Prem and three fine wins and they drop your best ? we had almost the same crowd in div 2 whats going on ? bluewhiteandred

8:51pm Sat 15 Feb 14

4stands says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
4stands wrote:
Disgraceful!!! - and on the day that Tom Finney dies, your non english speaking manager treats the FA Cup with utter contempt............


.. sfc are the SHAME of the South Coast - Up the CHERRIES!!
Oh dear.... I like the cherries but have to say you sound a right dic* and embarrass and shame your club by saying that statement. Sir Tom Finney loved all football and you come on here with pathetic quotes
Our manager does speak English, his side-kick made the poor interview.
"No doy un damm de la fa cup o nuestros seguidores"
Yeah hahahhahahha get Jesus to translate that - its a disgrace in any language
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]4stands[/bold] wrote: Disgraceful!!! - and on the day that Tom Finney dies, your non english speaking manager treats the FA Cup with utter contempt............ .. sfc are the SHAME of the South Coast - Up the CHERRIES!![/p][/quote]Oh dear.... I like the cherries but have to say you sound a right dic* and embarrass and shame your club by saying that statement. Sir Tom Finney loved all football and you come on here with pathetic quotes Our manager does speak English, his side-kick made the poor interview.[/p][/quote]"No doy un damm de la fa cup o nuestros seguidores" Yeah hahahhahahha get Jesus to translate that - its a disgrace in any language 4stands

8:56pm Sat 15 Feb 14

FindAndDestroy says...

SaintBobbert wrote:
I was driving home from work when I heard the team sheet & thought, that'll do - a decent side put out, with the exception of Guly (been injured) ALL have featured in the Prem for the 1st Team of late.

Yes, Poch made some changes - but why does it seem that I'm the only one that thinks the TEAM under performed...
I agree with you .. The whole TEAM under performed, team selection has very little to do with it.... some on here are trying to blame certain players...
i can not think of player who had an outstanding game today the entire team bl***dy awful....more than half of those who played are regulars...none of them made any difference...
[quote][p][bold]SaintBobbert[/bold] wrote: I was driving home from work when I heard the team sheet & thought, that'll do - a decent side put out, with the exception of Guly (been injured) ALL have featured in the Prem for the 1st Team of late. Yes, Poch made some changes - but why does it seem that I'm the only one that thinks the TEAM under performed...[/p][/quote]I agree with you .. The whole TEAM under performed, team selection has very little to do with it.... some on here are trying to blame certain players... i can not think of player who had an outstanding game today the entire team bl***dy awful....more than half of those who played are regulars...none of them made any difference... FindAndDestroy

8:58pm Sat 15 Feb 14

el caballo santos101 says...

costa gaz wrote:
Does anyone else find it bizarre that the assistant manager takes charge for cup games....
Just can't get my head around that one.
As soon as the team was announced I got a few €'s on a home win, easiest money I'll ever make... we lost before a ball was kicked.
Before today I was thinking that we could.possibly finish above Man Utd in the league, not really sure that the club has any intention to attempt this now.

One positive to take from today is that Osprey does not comment on here anymore.
well that's the right attitude, defeatist from the start.
I don't know any saints fan who would bet real money on the team losing! it wasn't the easiest money you have ever made though was it, if SRL, a player that no doubt you would have wanted on the team sheet, had scored that chance then you would have lost your money. well at least you've made a few quid out of picking your team to lose!
why you think that because of a very poor cup performance that the club no longer wants to push as high up the league as they can is beyond me. I suppose you will be trying to make a bit more money out of wanting saints to lose?
nice to see that your delighted that osprey has decided that he no longer wants to post any longer and that you take that as a positive from todays defeat (I really don't get the connection). again what a great supporter you must be, glad we lost so that a person you have never met no longer joins in on these forums, probably because he has different opinions to you. osprey is a harmless old, sorry osprey, geezer who uses these forums to show his support for the whole team and club and as a way of contacting other fans.
don't stop posting osprey, I may not always like everything you post, but you are often amusing and that's fine by me. anyway if posters like you, who are here regardless of the result disappeared, who would be here when we win? most of the moaners never turn up unless we lose.
as bad as we were, and we were bad, I still cant get my head around a saints fan betting on us to lose. must have been delighted when SRL put the ball over. well I suppose it must be a nice feeling knowing you've got a bit more money in your pocket!
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Does anyone else find it bizarre that the assistant manager takes charge for cup games.... Just can't get my head around that one. As soon as the team was announced I got a few €'s on a home win, easiest money I'll ever make... we lost before a ball was kicked. Before today I was thinking that we could.possibly finish above Man Utd in the league, not really sure that the club has any intention to attempt this now. One positive to take from today is that Osprey does not comment on here anymore.[/p][/quote]well that's the right attitude, defeatist from the start. I don't know any saints fan who would bet real money on the team losing! it wasn't the easiest money you have ever made though was it, if SRL, a player that no doubt you would have wanted on the team sheet, had scored that chance then you would have lost your money. well at least you've made a few quid out of picking your team to lose! why you think that because of a very poor cup performance that the club no longer wants to push as high up the league as they can is beyond me. I suppose you will be trying to make a bit more money out of wanting saints to lose? nice to see that your delighted that osprey has decided that he no longer wants to post any longer and that you take that as a positive from todays defeat (I really don't get the connection). again what a great supporter you must be, glad we lost so that a person you have never met no longer joins in on these forums, probably because he has different opinions to you. osprey is a harmless old, sorry osprey, geezer who uses these forums to show his support for the whole team and club and as a way of contacting other fans. don't stop posting osprey, I may not always like everything you post, but you are often amusing and that's fine by me. anyway if posters like you, who are here regardless of the result disappeared, who would be here when we win? most of the moaners never turn up unless we lose. as bad as we were, and we were bad, I still cant get my head around a saints fan betting on us to lose. must have been delighted when SRL put the ball over. well I suppose it must be a nice feeling knowing you've got a bit more money in your pocket! el caballo santos101

9:03pm Sat 15 Feb 14

doos says...

Pompey in the Premier League:

Won FA Cup
FA Cup runners up
Charity Shield
2 x FA Cup Semi Final wins at Wembley.
7th Place Finish
Watched us win away in Europe.
Drew with AC Milan

Southampton:
Play the reserves when 3 games from Wembley and the big boys playing each other!

I know the me back will be we bought success, we went bust, look where we are now etc. But what a ride an I've seen my club do all these things which will probably never happen again. Your club may not be the same next year if a few players leave so I would be fuming your manager gave away a chance of Wembley, a cup win and a spot in Europe for what? Consolidating 8th place when you are 10 points clear of 10th. MADNESS!

I wont respond to the abuse or backlash. PUP
Pompey in the Premier League: Won FA Cup FA Cup runners up Charity Shield 2 x FA Cup Semi Final wins at Wembley. 7th Place Finish Watched us win away in Europe. Drew with AC Milan Southampton: Play the reserves when 3 games from Wembley and the big boys playing each other! I know the me back will be we bought success, we went bust, look where we are now etc. But what a ride an I've seen my club do all these things which will probably never happen again. Your club may not be the same next year if a few players leave so I would be fuming your manager gave away a chance of Wembley, a cup win and a spot in Europe for what? Consolidating 8th place when you are 10 points clear of 10th. MADNESS! I wont respond to the abuse or backlash. PUP doos

9:12pm Sat 15 Feb 14

hamblepoint says...

For some the FA Cup has lost all its glamour what with the introduction of the Champions League. Winning the FA Cup is no longer an ambition for some and that must surely include Southampton. Remember that after Adkins left Southampton stated that their aim was to play in the Champions League ASAP. After todays display it would appear the players are in totally in tune with the management and saving themselves for West Ham and the Premiership where hopefully we will finish one place below that required to engage in the Europa league and at the same time pick up a tidy sum of place money
For some the FA Cup has lost all its glamour what with the introduction of the Champions League. Winning the FA Cup is no longer an ambition for some and that must surely include Southampton. Remember that after Adkins left Southampton stated that their aim was to play in the Champions League ASAP. After todays display it would appear the players are in totally in tune with the management and saving themselves for West Ham and the Premiership where hopefully we will finish one place below that required to engage in the Europa league and at the same time pick up a tidy sum of place money hamblepoint

9:22pm Sat 15 Feb 14

jls217 says...

bigfella777 wrote:
What a lot of miserable glory hunters, 1-0 away to a team on the rise with a top manager is not that bad.
I suppose Mourinho deserves to be sacked as well, it's the stupid midweek fixture that has caused this, there was no need for it.
You are totally missing the point. It's not so much that we lost - that happens to every team especially away from time to time. It's that we didn't turn up, strolled around, sometimes passing to a black shirt more often than not passing to a red and white one, slowed the game down to the point where the opposition could take command when we are at our most effective when we go forward purposefully and rapidly, missed open goals, couldn't be bothered to find space - in short we seemed like we didn't really give a ****. That mate is unforgivable especially for someone like me who would give up just about anything to have been talented enough to wear a Saints shirt.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: What a lot of miserable glory hunters, 1-0 away to a team on the rise with a top manager is not that bad. I suppose Mourinho deserves to be sacked as well, it's the stupid midweek fixture that has caused this, there was no need for it.[/p][/quote]You are totally missing the point. It's not so much that we lost - that happens to every team especially away from time to time. It's that we didn't turn up, strolled around, sometimes passing to a black shirt more often than not passing to a red and white one, slowed the game down to the point where the opposition could take command when we are at our most effective when we go forward purposefully and rapidly, missed open goals, couldn't be bothered to find space - in short we seemed like we didn't really give a ****. That mate is unforgivable especially for someone like me who would give up just about anything to have been talented enough to wear a Saints shirt. jls217

9:23pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Norwegian Saint says...

4stands wrote:
Norwegian Saint wrote:
4stands wrote:
Disgraceful!!! - and on the day that Tom Finney dies, your non english speaking manager treats the FA Cup with utter contempt............



.. sfc are the SHAME of the South Coast - Up the CHERRIES!!
Oh dear.... I like the cherries but have to say you sound a right dic* and embarrass and shame your club by saying that statement. Sir Tom Finney loved all football and you come on here with pathetic quotes
Our manager does speak English, his side-kick made the poor interview.
"No doy un damm de la fa cup o nuestros seguidores"
Yeah hahahhahahha get Jesus to translate that - its a disgrace in any language
De er sjalu... fitte!
(Some Norwegian for you!)
[quote][p][bold]4stands[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]4stands[/bold] wrote: Disgraceful!!! - and on the day that Tom Finney dies, your non english speaking manager treats the FA Cup with utter contempt............ .. sfc are the SHAME of the South Coast - Up the CHERRIES!![/p][/quote]Oh dear.... I like the cherries but have to say you sound a right dic* and embarrass and shame your club by saying that statement. Sir Tom Finney loved all football and you come on here with pathetic quotes Our manager does speak English, his side-kick made the poor interview.[/p][/quote]"No doy un damm de la fa cup o nuestros seguidores" Yeah hahahhahahha get Jesus to translate that - its a disgrace in any language[/p][/quote]De er sjalu... fitte! (Some Norwegian for you!) Norwegian Saint

9:31pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Clever Dick says...

doos wrote:
Pompey in the Premier League:

Won FA Cup
FA Cup runners up
Charity Shield
2 x FA Cup Semi Final wins at Wembley.
7th Place Finish
Watched us win away in Europe.
Drew with AC Milan

Southampton:
Play the reserves when 3 games from Wembley and the big boys playing each other!

I know the me back will be we bought success, we went bust, look where we are now etc. But what a ride an I've seen my club do all these things which will probably never happen again. Your club may not be the same next year if a few players leave so I would be fuming your manager gave away a chance of Wembley, a cup win and a spot in Europe for what? Consolidating 8th place when you are 10 points clear of 10th. MADNESS!

I wont respond to the abuse or backlash. PUP
You are wrong there when you say certain things will probably never happen again. Replace probably with definitely and you are spot on. No club will be the same next year if a few players leave. In your case you will replace them with another group of unwanted has beens, journeymen and general nobodies. In our case we will receive huge fees for any player moving on and will either replace them with equally expensive players or simply move up another budding superstar from our world class academy. It's great you aren't going to respond so kindly p1$$ off and go back to supporting your own tacky little club while it is still in existence.
[quote][p][bold]doos[/bold] wrote: Pompey in the Premier League: Won FA Cup FA Cup runners up Charity Shield 2 x FA Cup Semi Final wins at Wembley. 7th Place Finish Watched us win away in Europe. Drew with AC Milan Southampton: Play the reserves when 3 games from Wembley and the big boys playing each other! I know the me back will be we bought success, we went bust, look where we are now etc. But what a ride an I've seen my club do all these things which will probably never happen again. Your club may not be the same next year if a few players leave so I would be fuming your manager gave away a chance of Wembley, a cup win and a spot in Europe for what? Consolidating 8th place when you are 10 points clear of 10th. MADNESS! I wont respond to the abuse or backlash. PUP[/p][/quote]You are wrong there when you say certain things will probably never happen again. Replace probably with definitely and you are spot on. No club will be the same next year if a few players leave. In your case you will replace them with another group of unwanted has beens, journeymen and general nobodies. In our case we will receive huge fees for any player moving on and will either replace them with equally expensive players or simply move up another budding superstar from our world class academy. It's great you aren't going to respond so kindly p1$$ off and go back to supporting your own tacky little club while it is still in existence. Clever Dick

9:36pm Sat 15 Feb 14

doos says...

Clever Dick wrote:
doos wrote:
Pompey in the Premier League:

Won FA Cup
FA Cup runners up
Charity Shield
2 x FA Cup Semi Final wins at Wembley.
7th Place Finish
Watched us win away in Europe.
Drew with AC Milan

Southampton:
Play the reserves when 3 games from Wembley and the big boys playing each other!

I know the me back will be we bought success, we went bust, look where we are now etc. But what a ride an I've seen my club do all these things which will probably never happen again. Your club may not be the same next year if a few players leave so I would be fuming your manager gave away a chance of Wembley, a cup win and a spot in Europe for what? Consolidating 8th place when you are 10 points clear of 10th. MADNESS!

I wont respond to the abuse or backlash. PUP
You are wrong there when you say certain things will probably never happen again. Replace probably with definitely and you are spot on. No club will be the same next year if a few players leave. In your case you will replace them with another group of unwanted has beens, journeymen and general nobodies. In our case we will receive huge fees for any player moving on and will either replace them with equally expensive players or simply move up another budding superstar from our world class academy. It's great you aren't going to respond so kindly p1$$ off and go back to supporting your own tacky little club while it is still in existence.
That's my point. We did it all when we had the chance! You played your reserves!
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doos[/bold] wrote: Pompey in the Premier League: Won FA Cup FA Cup runners up Charity Shield 2 x FA Cup Semi Final wins at Wembley. 7th Place Finish Watched us win away in Europe. Drew with AC Milan Southampton: Play the reserves when 3 games from Wembley and the big boys playing each other! I know the me back will be we bought success, we went bust, look where we are now etc. But what a ride an I've seen my club do all these things which will probably never happen again. Your club may not be the same next year if a few players leave so I would be fuming your manager gave away a chance of Wembley, a cup win and a spot in Europe for what? Consolidating 8th place when you are 10 points clear of 10th. MADNESS! I wont respond to the abuse or backlash. PUP[/p][/quote]You are wrong there when you say certain things will probably never happen again. Replace probably with definitely and you are spot on. No club will be the same next year if a few players leave. In your case you will replace them with another group of unwanted has beens, journeymen and general nobodies. In our case we will receive huge fees for any player moving on and will either replace them with equally expensive players or simply move up another budding superstar from our world class academy. It's great you aren't going to respond so kindly p1$$ off and go back to supporting your own tacky little club while it is still in existence.[/p][/quote]That's my point. We did it all when we had the chance! You played your reserves! doos

9:42pm Sat 15 Feb 14

TheTom says...

Feed line: I woz so lookin 4ward 2 finally getting a semi soon for the wife - Pay off: talking of getting well & truly screwed - If we wer bottom 4 or, top 4 then fair play Mo Po but, we ain't. Total disrespect 2 supporters & badge 2day & this is lowest 'point' (or not Rickie!!) in a long while. St Rick is normally instructed & 'paid' 2 'score' yet not 2day. I thort he woz a true SAINT yet money/bonuses is the true motivator & keeping a clean sheet at their end won today. We love them and 'they' love us back-wot a load of old crap. Do you really think an FA Cup bonus can compete with a prem league payout-thought not. I bet we stuff West Ham next week and all will be forgotten/forgiven coz we're just as shallow as they are & we wud give 'everything't to wear the shirt ourselves for 'nothing'!! Just like the rest of you I suffer every Saturday & kick/head every single ball & contest every single decision. I love my club yet I wouldn't die for it coz 2day proves why. RIP FA CUP & RIP 76
Feed line: I woz so lookin 4ward 2 finally getting a semi soon for the wife - Pay off: talking of getting well & truly screwed - If we wer bottom 4 or, top 4 then fair play Mo Po but, we ain't. Total disrespect 2 supporters & badge 2day & this is lowest 'point' (or not Rickie!!) in a long while. St Rick is normally instructed & 'paid' 2 'score' yet not 2day. I thort he woz a true SAINT yet money/bonuses is the true motivator & keeping a clean sheet at their end won today. We love them and 'they' love us back-wot a load of old crap. Do you really think an FA Cup bonus can compete with a prem league payout-thought not. I bet we stuff West Ham next week and all will be forgotten/forgiven coz we're just as shallow as they are & we wud give 'everything't to wear the shirt ourselves for 'nothing'!! Just like the rest of you I suffer every Saturday & kick/head every single ball & contest every single decision. I love my club yet I wouldn't die for it coz 2day proves why. RIP FA CUP & RIP 76 TheTom

9:46pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Clever Dick says...

doos wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
doos wrote:
Pompey in the Premier League:

Won FA Cup
FA Cup runners up
Charity Shield
2 x FA Cup Semi Final wins at Wembley.
7th Place Finish
Watched us win away in Europe.
Drew with AC Milan

Southampton:
Play the reserves when 3 games from Wembley and the big boys playing each other!

I know the me back will be we bought success, we went bust, look where we are now etc. But what a ride an I've seen my club do all these things which will probably never happen again. Your club may not be the same next year if a few players leave so I would be fuming your manager gave away a chance of Wembley, a cup win and a spot in Europe for what? Consolidating 8th place when you are 10 points clear of 10th. MADNESS!

I wont respond to the abuse or backlash. PUP
You are wrong there when you say certain things will probably never happen again. Replace probably with definitely and you are spot on. No club will be the same next year if a few players leave. In your case you will replace them with another group of unwanted has beens, journeymen and general nobodies. In our case we will receive huge fees for any player moving on and will either replace them with equally expensive players or simply move up another budding superstar from our world class academy. It's great you aren't going to respond so kindly p1$$ off and go back to supporting your own tacky little club while it is still in existence.
That's my point. We did it all when we had the chance! You played your reserves!
Oh look a response. And our point is that we don't care what you did. It got you where you are now. I'll take where we are thanks. As I said earlier finishing top half of the Premiership is a far greater achievement than winning a cup these days. The finances of the Premier League and the Champion's League make everything else irrelevant.
[quote][p][bold]doos[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doos[/bold] wrote: Pompey in the Premier League: Won FA Cup FA Cup runners up Charity Shield 2 x FA Cup Semi Final wins at Wembley. 7th Place Finish Watched us win away in Europe. Drew with AC Milan Southampton: Play the reserves when 3 games from Wembley and the big boys playing each other! I know the me back will be we bought success, we went bust, look where we are now etc. But what a ride an I've seen my club do all these things which will probably never happen again. Your club may not be the same next year if a few players leave so I would be fuming your manager gave away a chance of Wembley, a cup win and a spot in Europe for what? Consolidating 8th place when you are 10 points clear of 10th. MADNESS! I wont respond to the abuse or backlash. PUP[/p][/quote]You are wrong there when you say certain things will probably never happen again. Replace probably with definitely and you are spot on. No club will be the same next year if a few players leave. In your case you will replace them with another group of unwanted has beens, journeymen and general nobodies. In our case we will receive huge fees for any player moving on and will either replace them with equally expensive players or simply move up another budding superstar from our world class academy. It's great you aren't going to respond so kindly p1$$ off and go back to supporting your own tacky little club while it is still in existence.[/p][/quote]That's my point. We did it all when we had the chance! You played your reserves![/p][/quote]Oh look a response. And our point is that we don't care what you did. It got you where you are now. I'll take where we are thanks. As I said earlier finishing top half of the Premiership is a far greater achievement than winning a cup these days. The finances of the Premier League and the Champion's League make everything else irrelevant. Clever Dick

9:47pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Santa Retfordia says...

This thread is noticeably low on comments from people who were actually there. May I be the first? Cheers.

I'm not a rich man but I drove a long way to be there today because they're my boys. Was I disappointed with the result? Yes. Was I disappointed with the team? No, because ordinarily they would have been good enough. Do I want my money back? No, because I'm an adult who understands this kind of thing happens.

Truth is, the pitch and conditions were so terrible that whoever we picked it was always going to be like watching pub football. Did the regular a-teamers make an impression when they came on? No, because they were playing on a pitch made of solid sh1te. This is why upsets happen in cup football. Sadly (or not, depending on how you look at it) the Southampton Way is to pass the ball and that was just impossible today.

If you're looking for a silver lining it's that Inglorious Basterds is on in a minute so we can all watch that instead of ITV's appalling 'highlights' package. Seriously, watch it and forget about football for a bit. It's genius.
This thread is noticeably low on comments from people who were actually there. May I be the first? Cheers. I'm not a rich man but I drove a long way to be there today because they're my boys. Was I disappointed with the result? Yes. Was I disappointed with the team? No, because ordinarily they would have been good enough. Do I want my money back? No, because I'm an adult who understands this kind of thing happens. Truth is, the pitch and conditions were so terrible that whoever we picked it was always going to be like watching pub football. Did the regular a-teamers make an impression when they came on? No, because they were playing on a pitch made of solid sh1te. This is why upsets happen in cup football. Sadly (or not, depending on how you look at it) the Southampton Way is to pass the ball and that was just impossible today. If you're looking for a silver lining it's that Inglorious Basterds is on in a minute so we can all watch that instead of ITV's appalling 'highlights' package. Seriously, watch it and forget about football for a bit. It's genius. Santa Retfordia

9:49pm Sat 15 Feb 14

SouthLondonSaint says...

We only started to seem bothered in the last 15 mins, was quite surprised by the team selection, felt we should start strong and then once the job is done bring on a couple under 21s. Why bother giving guly game time if he going in the summer...

In fairness tho if Lambert had blooming put it away like he would 99% of the time things wouldn't seem so bad.... Heyho better luck next year, let's try and finish above united :)
We only started to seem bothered in the last 15 mins, was quite surprised by the team selection, felt we should start strong and then once the job is done bring on a couple under 21s. Why bother giving guly game time if he going in the summer... In fairness tho if Lambert had blooming put it away like he would 99% of the time things wouldn't seem so bad.... Heyho better luck next year, let's try and finish above united :) SouthLondonSaint

9:49pm Sat 15 Feb 14

bluewhiteandred says...

Clever Dick wrote:
doos wrote:
Pompey in the Premier League:

Won FA Cup
FA Cup runners up
Charity Shield
2 x FA Cup Semi Final wins at Wembley.
7th Place Finish
Watched us win away in Europe.
Drew with AC Milan

Southampton:
Play the reserves when 3 games from Wembley and the big boys playing each other!

I know the me back will be we bought success, we went bust, look where we are now etc. But what a ride an I've seen my club do all these things which will probably never happen again. Your club may not be the same next year if a few players leave so I would be fuming your manager gave away a chance of Wembley, a cup win and a spot in Europe for what? Consolidating 8th place when you are 10 points clear of 10th. MADNESS!

I wont respond to the abuse or backlash. PUP
You are wrong there when you say certain things will probably never happen again. Replace probably with definitely and you are spot on. No club will be the same next year if a few players leave. In your case you will replace them with another group of unwanted has beens, journeymen and general nobodies. In our case we will receive huge fees for any player moving on and will either replace them with equally expensive players or simply move up another budding superstar from our world class academy. It's great you aren't going to respond so kindly p1$$ off and go back to supporting your own tacky little club while it is still in existence.
Well at least saints have one thing to play for still ? finish higher than POMPEY 8th in premier and a better points tally !
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doos[/bold] wrote: Pompey in the Premier League: Won FA Cup FA Cup runners up Charity Shield 2 x FA Cup Semi Final wins at Wembley. 7th Place Finish Watched us win away in Europe. Drew with AC Milan Southampton: Play the reserves when 3 games from Wembley and the big boys playing each other! I know the me back will be we bought success, we went bust, look where we are now etc. But what a ride an I've seen my club do all these things which will probably never happen again. Your club may not be the same next year if a few players leave so I would be fuming your manager gave away a chance of Wembley, a cup win and a spot in Europe for what? Consolidating 8th place when you are 10 points clear of 10th. MADNESS! I wont respond to the abuse or backlash. PUP[/p][/quote]You are wrong there when you say certain things will probably never happen again. Replace probably with definitely and you are spot on. No club will be the same next year if a few players leave. In your case you will replace them with another group of unwanted has beens, journeymen and general nobodies. In our case we will receive huge fees for any player moving on and will either replace them with equally expensive players or simply move up another budding superstar from our world class academy. It's great you aren't going to respond so kindly p1$$ off and go back to supporting your own tacky little club while it is still in existence.[/p][/quote]Well at least saints have one thing to play for still ? finish higher than POMPEY 8th in premier and a better points tally ! bluewhiteandred

9:52pm Sat 15 Feb 14

pompey in spain says...

you took 800 fans today,disgraceful...
.no passion...joke of a club.was worth having that bbq tonite,oh yeah we won today btw.
you took 800 fans today,disgraceful... .no passion...joke of a club.was worth having that bbq tonite,oh yeah we won today btw. pompey in spain

9:59pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Norwegian Saint says...

Wow... We get a few Poopey and a B'muff fans on here trying to give it some!
Bournemouth I actually like and guess they are now our closest rivals by doing a great job in the Championship. One dic*head won't let my opinion of the club change.

The Poofew are just priceless! They continue to try and use history but they have, for the most part, been below us and will continue to be for many years to come. Will they add it to the history getting knocked out in round one of the 2013/14 FA cup? That there has never been such a huge difference in league positions? That they spent more time in administration than two whole seasons of football? That they had players that cheated by getting sent off? That players were paid dodgy payments? That a manager was visiting a local brothel? That they are a few points from non-league football? History? Yeah, your making some alright.
We lose a cup game by a good goal after fielding a near reserve side and a mistake (one of very few) by our Manager (that is one of the Worlds top managers) we are sitting lovely and safe in 8th looking up at a few giants of the football world.
Proud to be a Saint, playing some great football that is an envy of the British and European leagues with our homegrown youngsters at a world class training ground and a brilliant owner. Another one of the best things is seeing how far the local "rivals" have fallen... then they come up from their cesspit and try to give us Saints abuse..... priceless... very, very funny and very, very priceless!!!
Wow... We get a few Poopey and a B'muff fans on here trying to give it some! Bournemouth I actually like and guess they are now our closest rivals by doing a great job in the Championship. One dic*head won't let my opinion of the club change. The Poofew are just priceless! They continue to try and use history but they have, for the most part, been below us and will continue to be for many years to come. Will they add it to the history getting knocked out in round one of the 2013/14 FA cup? That there has never been such a huge difference in league positions? That they spent more time in administration than two whole seasons of football? That they had players that cheated by getting sent off? That players were paid dodgy payments? That a manager was visiting a local brothel? That they are a few points from non-league football? History? Yeah, your making some alright. We lose a cup game by a good goal after fielding a near reserve side and a mistake (one of very few) by our Manager (that is one of the Worlds top managers) we are sitting lovely and safe in 8th looking up at a few giants of the football world. Proud to be a Saint, playing some great football that is an envy of the British and European leagues with our homegrown youngsters at a world class training ground and a brilliant owner. Another one of the best things is seeing how far the local "rivals" have fallen... then they come up from their cesspit and try to give us Saints abuse..... priceless... very, very funny and very, very priceless!!! Norwegian Saint

10:00pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Santa Retfordia says...

SouthLondonSaint wrote:
We only started to seem bothered in the last 15 mins, was quite surprised by the team selection, felt we should start strong and then once the job is done bring on a couple under 21s. Why bother giving guly game time if he going in the summer...

In fairness tho if Lambert had blooming put it away like he would 99% of the time things wouldn't seem so bad.... Heyho better luck next year, let's try and finish above united :)
Good lad!

Let's also not go to Sunderland for a bit. Awful place!
[quote][p][bold]SouthLondonSaint[/bold] wrote: We only started to seem bothered in the last 15 mins, was quite surprised by the team selection, felt we should start strong and then once the job is done bring on a couple under 21s. Why bother giving guly game time if he going in the summer... In fairness tho if Lambert had blooming put it away like he would 99% of the time things wouldn't seem so bad.... Heyho better luck next year, let's try and finish above united :)[/p][/quote]Good lad! Let's also not go to Sunderland for a bit. Awful place! Santa Retfordia

10:06pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Rank Xerox says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Simmo13 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
What a lot of miserable glory hunters, 1-0 away to a team on the rise with a top manager is not that bad.
I suppose Mourinho deserves to be sacked as well, it's the stupid midweek fixture that has caused this, there was no need for it.
Perhaps it could also be the fact Sunderland made 9 changes as well which basically made it their reserve side we were woeful
What would you rather have, the win on Tuesday night or another round of the FA cup?
I said on Tuesday I'd rather have a win against Hull than a win today but today's performance took the pi*z
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simmo13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: What a lot of miserable glory hunters, 1-0 away to a team on the rise with a top manager is not that bad. I suppose Mourinho deserves to be sacked as well, it's the stupid midweek fixture that has caused this, there was no need for it.[/p][/quote]Perhaps it could also be the fact Sunderland made 9 changes as well which basically made it their reserve side we were woeful[/p][/quote]What would you rather have, the win on Tuesday night or another round of the FA cup?[/p][/quote]I said on Tuesday I'd rather have a win against Hull than a win today but today's performance took the pi*z Rank Xerox

10:07pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Paul TS says...

Lapland comes off with 10 minutes to go and Rickie misses a sitter that was harder to miss than score.
Lapland comes off with 10 minutes to go and Rickie misses a sitter that was harder to miss than score. Paul TS

10:12pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Clever Dick says...

bluewhiteandred wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
doos wrote:
Pompey in the Premier League:

Won FA Cup
FA Cup runners up
Charity Shield
2 x FA Cup Semi Final wins at Wembley.
7th Place Finish
Watched us win away in Europe.
Drew with AC Milan

Southampton:
Play the reserves when 3 games from Wembley and the big boys playing each other!

I know the me back will be we bought success, we went bust, look where we are now etc. But what a ride an I've seen my club do all these things which will probably never happen again. Your club may not be the same next year if a few players leave so I would be fuming your manager gave away a chance of Wembley, a cup win and a spot in Europe for what? Consolidating 8th place when you are 10 points clear of 10th. MADNESS!

I wont respond to the abuse or backlash. PUP
You are wrong there when you say certain things will probably never happen again. Replace probably with definitely and you are spot on. No club will be the same next year if a few players leave. In your case you will replace them with another group of unwanted has beens, journeymen and general nobodies. In our case we will receive huge fees for any player moving on and will either replace them with equally expensive players or simply move up another budding superstar from our world class academy. It's great you aren't going to respond so kindly p1$$ off and go back to supporting your own tacky little club while it is still in existence.
Well at least saints have one thing to play for still ? finish higher than POMPEY 8th in premier and a better points tally !
Yes we do have something to play for and little skuntsmouth don't come into our thoughts. We are trying to finish as high as we can and the teams we have in our sights are ManU and Everton currently. Hardly to be considered in the same breath as a tacky, failed, disgraced and embarrassing tiny little set up like Poopey.
[quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doos[/bold] wrote: Pompey in the Premier League: Won FA Cup FA Cup runners up Charity Shield 2 x FA Cup Semi Final wins at Wembley. 7th Place Finish Watched us win away in Europe. Drew with AC Milan Southampton: Play the reserves when 3 games from Wembley and the big boys playing each other! I know the me back will be we bought success, we went bust, look where we are now etc. But what a ride an I've seen my club do all these things which will probably never happen again. Your club may not be the same next year if a few players leave so I would be fuming your manager gave away a chance of Wembley, a cup win and a spot in Europe for what? Consolidating 8th place when you are 10 points clear of 10th. MADNESS! I wont respond to the abuse or backlash. PUP[/p][/quote]You are wrong there when you say certain things will probably never happen again. Replace probably with definitely and you are spot on. No club will be the same next year if a few players leave. In your case you will replace them with another group of unwanted has beens, journeymen and general nobodies. In our case we will receive huge fees for any player moving on and will either replace them with equally expensive players or simply move up another budding superstar from our world class academy. It's great you aren't going to respond so kindly p1$$ off and go back to supporting your own tacky little club while it is still in existence.[/p][/quote]Well at least saints have one thing to play for still ? finish higher than POMPEY 8th in premier and a better points tally ![/p][/quote]Yes we do have something to play for and little skuntsmouth don't come into our thoughts. We are trying to finish as high as we can and the teams we have in our sights are ManU and Everton currently. Hardly to be considered in the same breath as a tacky, failed, disgraced and embarrassing tiny little set up like Poopey. Clever Dick

10:22pm Sat 15 Feb 14

bluewhiteandred says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
Wow... We get a few Poopey and a B'muff fans on here trying to give it some!
Bournemouth I actually like and guess they are now our closest rivals by doing a great job in the Championship. One dic*head won't let my opinion of the club change.

The Poofew are just priceless! They continue to try and use history but they have, for the most part, been below us and will continue to be for many years to come. Will they add it to the history getting knocked out in round one of the 2013/14 FA cup? That there has never been such a huge difference in league positions? That they spent more time in administration than two whole seasons of football? That they had players that cheated by getting sent off? That players were paid dodgy payments? That a manager was visiting a local brothel? That they are a few points from non-league football? History? Yeah, your making some alright.
We lose a cup game by a good goal after fielding a near reserve side and a mistake (one of very few) by our Manager (that is one of the Worlds top managers) we are sitting lovely and safe in 8th looking up at a few giants of the football world.
Proud to be a Saint, playing some great football that is an envy of the British and European leagues with our homegrown youngsters at a world class training ground and a brilliant owner. Another one of the best things is seeing how far the local "rivals" have fallen... then they come up from their cesspit and try to give us Saints abuse..... priceless... very, very funny and very, very priceless!!!
Cherries and Pompey fans know Saints fans big their club up cherries don't mock Pompey and visa versa we have a laugh at Saints ! :O)
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: Wow... We get a few Poopey and a B'muff fans on here trying to give it some! Bournemouth I actually like and guess they are now our closest rivals by doing a great job in the Championship. One dic*head won't let my opinion of the club change. The Poofew are just priceless! They continue to try and use history but they have, for the most part, been below us and will continue to be for many years to come. Will they add it to the history getting knocked out in round one of the 2013/14 FA cup? That there has never been such a huge difference in league positions? That they spent more time in administration than two whole seasons of football? That they had players that cheated by getting sent off? That players were paid dodgy payments? That a manager was visiting a local brothel? That they are a few points from non-league football? History? Yeah, your making some alright. We lose a cup game by a good goal after fielding a near reserve side and a mistake (one of very few) by our Manager (that is one of the Worlds top managers) we are sitting lovely and safe in 8th looking up at a few giants of the football world. Proud to be a Saint, playing some great football that is an envy of the British and European leagues with our homegrown youngsters at a world class training ground and a brilliant owner. Another one of the best things is seeing how far the local "rivals" have fallen... then they come up from their cesspit and try to give us Saints abuse..... priceless... very, very funny and very, very priceless!!![/p][/quote]Cherries and Pompey fans know Saints fans big their club up cherries don't mock Pompey and visa versa we have a laugh at Saints ! :O) bluewhiteandred

10:29pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Norwegian Saint says...

bluewhiteandred wrote:
Norwegian Saint wrote:
Wow... We get a few Poopey and a B'muff fans on here trying to give it some!
Bournemouth I actually like and guess they are now our closest rivals by doing a great job in the Championship. One dic*head won't let my opinion of the club change.

The Poofew are just priceless! They continue to try and use history but they have, for the most part, been below us and will continue to be for many years to come. Will they add it to the history getting knocked out in round one of the 2013/14 FA cup? That there has never been such a huge difference in league positions? That they spent more time in administration than two whole seasons of football? That they had players that cheated by getting sent off? That players were paid dodgy payments? That a manager was visiting a local brothel? That they are a few points from non-league football? History? Yeah, your making some alright.
We lose a cup game by a good goal after fielding a near reserve side and a mistake (one of very few) by our Manager (that is one of the Worlds top managers) we are sitting lovely and safe in 8th looking up at a few giants of the football world.
Proud to be a Saint, playing some great football that is an envy of the British and European leagues with our homegrown youngsters at a world class training ground and a brilliant owner. Another one of the best things is seeing how far the local "rivals" have fallen... then they come up from their cesspit and try to give us Saints abuse..... priceless... very, very funny and very, very priceless!!!
Cherries and Pompey fans know Saints fans big their club up cherries don't mock Pompey and visa versa we have a laugh at Saints ! :O)
No need to "big up" our club... we just look at the table... The PREMIERSHIP table. And your on a "rivals" website... priceless! That must have hurt login in to a rivals website, how low can they get... oh, hold on.... I can see non-league.
Loving it :-D
[quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: Wow... We get a few Poopey and a B'muff fans on here trying to give it some! Bournemouth I actually like and guess they are now our closest rivals by doing a great job in the Championship. One dic*head won't let my opinion of the club change. The Poofew are just priceless! They continue to try and use history but they have, for the most part, been below us and will continue to be for many years to come. Will they add it to the history getting knocked out in round one of the 2013/14 FA cup? That there has never been such a huge difference in league positions? That they spent more time in administration than two whole seasons of football? That they had players that cheated by getting sent off? That players were paid dodgy payments? That a manager was visiting a local brothel? That they are a few points from non-league football? History? Yeah, your making some alright. We lose a cup game by a good goal after fielding a near reserve side and a mistake (one of very few) by our Manager (that is one of the Worlds top managers) we are sitting lovely and safe in 8th looking up at a few giants of the football world. Proud to be a Saint, playing some great football that is an envy of the British and European leagues with our homegrown youngsters at a world class training ground and a brilliant owner. Another one of the best things is seeing how far the local "rivals" have fallen... then they come up from their cesspit and try to give us Saints abuse..... priceless... very, very funny and very, very priceless!!![/p][/quote]Cherries and Pompey fans know Saints fans big their club up cherries don't mock Pompey and visa versa we have a laugh at Saints ! :O)[/p][/quote]No need to "big up" our club... we just look at the table... The PREMIERSHIP table. And your on a "rivals" website... priceless! That must have hurt login in to a rivals website, how low can they get... oh, hold on.... I can see non-league. Loving it :-D Norwegian Saint

10:36pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Clever Dick says...

bluewhiteandred wrote:
Norwegian Saint wrote:
Wow... We get a few Poopey and a B'muff fans on here trying to give it some!
Bournemouth I actually like and guess they are now our closest rivals by doing a great job in the Championship. One dic*head won't let my opinion of the club change.

The Poofew are just priceless! They continue to try and use history but they have, for the most part, been below us and will continue to be for many years to come. Will they add it to the history getting knocked out in round one of the 2013/14 FA cup? That there has never been such a huge difference in league positions? That they spent more time in administration than two whole seasons of football? That they had players that cheated by getting sent off? That players were paid dodgy payments? That a manager was visiting a local brothel? That they are a few points from non-league football? History? Yeah, your making some alright.
We lose a cup game by a good goal after fielding a near reserve side and a mistake (one of very few) by our Manager (that is one of the Worlds top managers) we are sitting lovely and safe in 8th looking up at a few giants of the football world.
Proud to be a Saint, playing some great football that is an envy of the British and European leagues with our homegrown youngsters at a world class training ground and a brilliant owner. Another one of the best things is seeing how far the local "rivals" have fallen... then they come up from their cesspit and try to give us Saints abuse..... priceless... very, very funny and very, very priceless!!!
Cherries and Pompey fans know Saints fans big their club up cherries don't mock Pompey and visa versa we have a laugh at Saints ! :O)
And what is wrong with bigging up a big club. We actually quite like lickle Bmuff. They are doing very well holding their own in the C/ship for such a small club. The reason both of those little clubs don't mock each other is because of the jealousy factor of their big south coast rivals. They can never hope to rival them so resort to insults instead. So while we own up to a little snigger whenever the cherries try to step outside their league we also have to admit mocking and humiliating pathetic little Poopey is by far more amusing. So much so that it will actually be quite sad when they cease to exist.
[quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: Wow... We get a few Poopey and a B'muff fans on here trying to give it some! Bournemouth I actually like and guess they are now our closest rivals by doing a great job in the Championship. One dic*head won't let my opinion of the club change. The Poofew are just priceless! They continue to try and use history but they have, for the most part, been below us and will continue to be for many years to come. Will they add it to the history getting knocked out in round one of the 2013/14 FA cup? That there has never been such a huge difference in league positions? That they spent more time in administration than two whole seasons of football? That they had players that cheated by getting sent off? That players were paid dodgy payments? That a manager was visiting a local brothel? That they are a few points from non-league football? History? Yeah, your making some alright. We lose a cup game by a good goal after fielding a near reserve side and a mistake (one of very few) by our Manager (that is one of the Worlds top managers) we are sitting lovely and safe in 8th looking up at a few giants of the football world. Proud to be a Saint, playing some great football that is an envy of the British and European leagues with our homegrown youngsters at a world class training ground and a brilliant owner. Another one of the best things is seeing how far the local "rivals" have fallen... then they come up from their cesspit and try to give us Saints abuse..... priceless... very, very funny and very, very priceless!!![/p][/quote]Cherries and Pompey fans know Saints fans big their club up cherries don't mock Pompey and visa versa we have a laugh at Saints ! :O)[/p][/quote]And what is wrong with bigging up a big club. We actually quite like lickle Bmuff. They are doing very well holding their own in the C/ship for such a small club. The reason both of those little clubs don't mock each other is because of the jealousy factor of their big south coast rivals. They can never hope to rival them so resort to insults instead. So while we own up to a little snigger whenever the cherries try to step outside their league we also have to admit mocking and humiliating pathetic little Poopey is by far more amusing. So much so that it will actually be quite sad when they cease to exist. Clever Dick

11:03pm Sat 15 Feb 14

pompey in spain says...

mopo world class manager????/////....
and you wonder why we take the p**s....we got no bbc over here now.....with the D.E. who needs it???
mopo world class manager????/////.... and you wonder why we take the p**s....we got no bbc over here now.....with the D.E. who needs it??? pompey in spain

11:05pm Sat 15 Feb 14

miltonarcher says...

Steve in Swindon wrote:
Don't understand all this stuff about our priority being a 'top 8' finish and sod the FA Cup.

You won't see Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal or Liverpool putting out second string teams this weekend - wonder why they can all manage to focus on the Premier title AND the FA Cup (& the Champions League) at the same time?

City played practically their strongest team tonight and yet they are playing Barcelona on Tuesday night. Who are we playing in midweek? Oh I forgot - nobody!!!

We're safe from relegation by a country mile so why not have a real crack at the Cup. We've got nothing else to play for this season.

Saints and Pochetinno in particular are getting a right slating on 606 tonight from both the pundits and the 'phone-ins'. Rightly so too!

As I understand it we're not interested in a top 6 finish because Poch doesn't fancy the Europa League either. Maybe we should just declare now rather than go through the motions till the end of the season (after all we're almost safe already).

Feel sorry for the fans who got up at god knows what time this morning and spent hard earned cash to watch such a dismal performance. players.

And a final suggestion for the (probably) highly paid PR team at St.Mary's - don't put that clown Jesus in front of the TV cameras again - it was embarasing.
Spot on
[quote][p][bold]Steve in Swindon[/bold] wrote: Don't understand all this stuff about our priority being a 'top 8' finish and sod the FA Cup. You won't see Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal or Liverpool putting out second string teams this weekend - wonder why they can all manage to focus on the Premier title AND the FA Cup (& the Champions League) at the same time? City played practically their strongest team tonight and yet they are playing Barcelona on Tuesday night. Who are we playing in midweek? Oh I forgot - nobody!!! We're safe from relegation by a country mile so why not have a real crack at the Cup. We've got nothing else to play for this season. Saints and Pochetinno in particular are getting a right slating on 606 tonight from both the pundits and the 'phone-ins'. Rightly so too! As I understand it we're not interested in a top 6 finish because Poch doesn't fancy the Europa League either. Maybe we should just declare now rather than go through the motions till the end of the season (after all we're almost safe already). Feel sorry for the fans who got up at god knows what time this morning and spent hard earned cash to watch such a dismal performance. players. And a final suggestion for the (probably) highly paid PR team at St.Mary's - don't put that clown Jesus in front of the TV cameras again - it was embarasing.[/p][/quote]Spot on miltonarcher

11:12pm Sat 15 Feb 14

angus mc coatup says...

Right, get shot of Mopo and useless Jesus, they are obviously clueless. We need to get in a proper tactician with backroom staff that know what they're doing. This squad is just not good enough, and playing kids in the first team won't get us anywhere will it. Wholesale changes are needed immediately or this club will implode.....

I obviously don't mean a word of that....Just thought I'd jump on the bandwagon
Right, get shot of Mopo and useless Jesus, they are obviously clueless. We need to get in a proper tactician with backroom staff that know what they're doing. This squad is just not good enough, and playing kids in the first team won't get us anywhere will it. Wholesale changes are needed immediately or this club will implode..... I obviously don't mean a word of that....Just thought I'd jump on the bandwagon angus mc coatup

11:23pm Sat 15 Feb 14

redsnapper says...

Time for bed said Zebedee , FAC ambition has gone West now let's head to East London and put a nail in the Hammers coffin.

The FA Cup has become just another tin pot and winning it would be good fun for a day out , but entry into Europa League is not in the interests of club development. Our squad is to thin and amongst them are 3 or 4 who are finished at this level.
Time for bed said Zebedee , FAC ambition has gone West now let's head to East London and put a nail in the Hammers coffin. The FA Cup has become just another tin pot and winning it would be good fun for a day out , but entry into Europa League is not in the interests of club development. Our squad is to thin and amongst them are 3 or 4 who are finished at this level. redsnapper

11:24pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Totally Oblivious says...

All Saints fans might feel even sicker when the draw is made tomorrow.Yes, most of us think Posh made a bad mistake this time, but even with a poor performance by our standards this season we should have at least drawn. Don't be too hard on Poch, if he leaves reckon we'll really have big regrets. Saints seem to have a. habit of throwing away big opportunities, nothing new.Very sorry for the fans who made that long trip though. They were really let down. By the way, if Europa qualification gets in the way, why not use it for team experiment-losing wouldn't matter too much.
All Saints fans might feel even sicker when the draw is made tomorrow.Yes, most of us think Posh made a bad mistake this time, but even with a poor performance by our standards this season we should have at least drawn. Don't be too hard on Poch, if he leaves reckon we'll really have big regrets. Saints seem to have a. habit of throwing away big opportunities, nothing new.Very sorry for the fans who made that long trip though. They were really let down. By the way, if Europa qualification gets in the way, why not use it for team experiment-losing wouldn't matter too much. Totally Oblivious

11:54pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Baddesley Bill says...

From what I saw today, we weren't up for it at all. If I'm honest....I don't actually think our full strength side would have made the difference. We lacked any sort of spark today...which is a shame given the opportunity we had potentially in front of us. We move on....
From what I saw today, we weren't up for it at all. If I'm honest....I don't actually think our full strength side would have made the difference. We lacked any sort of spark today...which is a shame given the opportunity we had potentially in front of us. We move on.... Baddesley Bill

11:59pm Sat 15 Feb 14

wagsta says...

mustard wrote:
i don't think selection was the problem today, the performance was. that team should have been strong enough to get at last a draw against a much changed sunderland side.
With Lovren still injured Poch is right to protect Fonte, J-Rod was more than due a rest and most of the other changes were 50/50 selections ie Chambers/Clyne and Davis/Spiderman and Wanyama/Cork,it's not like they put a reserve team out there.
I would have loved us to get to Wembley but am more than happy with our season to date and the amount of talented English younsters we are producing.
If Lambert hadn't of missed the open goal near the end we'd all be looking forward to a replay.
Finally with regards to respcting the competition, it's not just our club its most clubs and it's the fans too, just look at the attendances. Unfortunately because of the finances involved the Premier league IS far more important to the owners, the management and most fans.
Well said mustard, just about sums up the reality of it. A bit too much overreaction from the usual suspects on many of the forums. The team MoPo put out today should have been more than capable of seeing off a weakened Sunderland but failed. I think the management need to be cut a bit of slack, we're not eighth in the league due to incompetence. MoPo has made it clear on several occasions this season that the league is his priority, we don't have a strong enough squad to compete on two or more fronts at the moment. Hence the reason we've not strengthened the squad in the mega expensive January window. As a supporter of 50+ years i am more than happy with the progress that we have made in the last four years. I appreciate that emotions are running a little high in certain quarters after our cup exit but some fans need to be careful what they wish for.
[quote][p][bold]mustard[/bold] wrote: i don't think selection was the problem today, the performance was. that team should have been strong enough to get at last a draw against a much changed sunderland side. With Lovren still injured Poch is right to protect Fonte, J-Rod was more than due a rest and most of the other changes were 50/50 selections ie Chambers/Clyne and Davis/Spiderman and Wanyama/Cork,it's not like they put a reserve team out there. I would have loved us to get to Wembley but am more than happy with our season to date and the amount of talented English younsters we are producing. If Lambert hadn't of missed the open goal near the end we'd all be looking forward to a replay. Finally with regards to respcting the competition, it's not just our club its most clubs and it's the fans too, just look at the attendances. Unfortunately because of the finances involved the Premier league IS far more important to the owners, the management and most fans.[/p][/quote]Well said mustard, just about sums up the reality of it. A bit too much overreaction from the usual suspects on many of the forums. The team MoPo put out today should have been more than capable of seeing off a weakened Sunderland but failed. I think the management need to be cut a bit of slack, we're not eighth in the league due to incompetence. MoPo has made it clear on several occasions this season that the league is his priority, we don't have a strong enough squad to compete on two or more fronts at the moment. Hence the reason we've not strengthened the squad in the mega expensive January window. As a supporter of 50+ years i am more than happy with the progress that we have made in the last four years. I appreciate that emotions are running a little high in certain quarters after our cup exit but some fans need to be careful what they wish for. wagsta

12:04am Sun 16 Feb 14

wagsta says...

miltonarcher wrote:
Steve in Swindon wrote:
Don't understand all this stuff about our priority being a 'top 8' finish and sod the FA Cup.

You won't see Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal or Liverpool putting out second string teams this weekend - wonder why they can all manage to focus on the Premier title AND the FA Cup (& the Champions League) at the same time?

City played practically their strongest team tonight and yet they are playing Barcelona on Tuesday night. Who are we playing in midweek? Oh I forgot - nobody!!!

We're safe from relegation by a country mile so why not have a real crack at the Cup. We've got nothing else to play for this season.

Saints and Pochetinno in particular are getting a right slating on 606 tonight from both the pundits and the 'phone-ins'. Rightly so too!

As I understand it we're not interested in a top 6 finish because Poch doesn't fancy the Europa League either. Maybe we should just declare now rather than go through the motions till the end of the season (after all we're almost safe already).

Feel sorry for the fans who got up at god knows what time this morning and spent hard earned cash to watch such a dismal performance. players.

And a final suggestion for the (probably) highly paid PR team at St.Mary's - don't put that clown Jesus in front of the TV cameras again - it was embarasing.
Spot on
Put simply Chelsea, Man City, et al all have 'kin huge squads.
[quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steve in Swindon[/bold] wrote: Don't understand all this stuff about our priority being a 'top 8' finish and sod the FA Cup. You won't see Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal or Liverpool putting out second string teams this weekend - wonder why they can all manage to focus on the Premier title AND the FA Cup (& the Champions League) at the same time? City played practically their strongest team tonight and yet they are playing Barcelona on Tuesday night. Who are we playing in midweek? Oh I forgot - nobody!!! We're safe from relegation by a country mile so why not have a real crack at the Cup. We've got nothing else to play for this season. Saints and Pochetinno in particular are getting a right slating on 606 tonight from both the pundits and the 'phone-ins'. Rightly so too! As I understand it we're not interested in a top 6 finish because Poch doesn't fancy the Europa League either. Maybe we should just declare now rather than go through the motions till the end of the season (after all we're almost safe already). Feel sorry for the fans who got up at god knows what time this morning and spent hard earned cash to watch such a dismal performance. players. And a final suggestion for the (probably) highly paid PR team at St.Mary's - don't put that clown Jesus in front of the TV cameras again - it was embarasing.[/p][/quote]Spot on[/p][/quote]Put simply Chelsea, Man City, et al all have 'kin huge squads. wagsta

12:44am Sun 16 Feb 14

swesaint says...

US Spitfire wrote:
Yet another poor performance and bad tactics from Poch - I may be in the minority but do not feel he is as good coach as he's been made out to be. 6 players who were not deemed good enough to play against Hull were considered good enough to progress Saints in the FA Cup. After the inevitable defeat I don't want excuses. Just be honest to the fans that spent a lot of money traveling 600+ miles that you really didn't give a **** about the FA Cup and weren't going to make the effort. The are sad win the league with no realistic chance elf getting a European spot so why not at least try to win the game?
Sunderland changed 9 players even though their midweek was cancelled. Why the anger about team selection and no focus on the poor performance by players. Both Ricky and Adam missing clear cut chances. The team was more than capable of beating that side if they had stepped up.
[quote][p][bold]US Spitfire[/bold] wrote: Yet another poor performance and bad tactics from Poch - I may be in the minority but do not feel he is as good coach as he's been made out to be. 6 players who were not deemed good enough to play against Hull were considered good enough to progress Saints in the FA Cup. After the inevitable defeat I don't want excuses. Just be honest to the fans that spent a lot of money traveling 600+ miles that you really didn't give a **** about the FA Cup and weren't going to make the effort. The are sad win the league with no realistic chance elf getting a European spot so why not at least try to win the game?[/p][/quote]Sunderland changed 9 players even though their midweek was cancelled. Why the anger about team selection and no focus on the poor performance by players. Both Ricky and Adam missing clear cut chances. The team was more than capable of beating that side if they had stepped up. swesaint

12:48am Sun 16 Feb 14

swesaint says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
is Jesus the cup manager? He comes out to do the interviews, so is it him that picks the cup teams? If so.... FU*KING pack your bags and FU'K off after that interview! Disgraceful answers! Get your wallet out and pay the fans!
Yes... I'm still angry, I feel sick about that selection and result but fuming with his blazay interview.
Great attitude towards our management, disgrace to call yourself a supporter.
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: is Jesus the cup manager? He comes out to do the interviews, so is it him that picks the cup teams? If so.... FU*KING pack your bags and FU'K off after that interview! Disgraceful answers! Get your wallet out and pay the fans! Yes... I'm still angry, I feel sick about that selection and result but fuming with his blazay interview.[/p][/quote]Great attitude towards our management, disgrace to call yourself a supporter. swesaint

12:52am Sun 16 Feb 14

swesaint says...

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
Thats what you get playing the 2nd Team in the FA Cup totally out played and short of a game plan!
If that's true, why didn't Sunderland get totally outplayed considering they changed 9 players?
[quote][p][bold]Fatty x Ford Worker[/bold] wrote: Thats what you get playing the 2nd Team in the FA Cup totally out played and short of a game plan![/p][/quote]If that's true, why didn't Sunderland get totally outplayed considering they changed 9 players? swesaint

1:31am Sun 16 Feb 14

Jan28th1984 says...

There was a time when the FA Cup meant something, and my moniker shows I come from a time when SFC loved the Cup - well not any more. The fans might think it is worth turning out for, and 1000 of us did so, but the club with next season's participation in the Premiership pretty much in the bag and a chance for a Wembley Final stuck two fingers up at us and fielded a weak team.

I would have thought the rest of the League season would now be about bringing on the kids and the Cup would be something we would go for.

If I had not seen it with my own eyes I would not have believed a Pochettino team jogging about without a care in the world 0-1 facing a 5th round cup exit and not giving a ****.
Then Perez pops up saying he's a little bit sad about it - is he taking a sample?
If this is the way forward for SFC then he and Poch and the rest of them can get lost. I do not expect any team wearing the Saints shirt to show such a lack of respect to such a part of the fabric of the English game as the FA Cup and to be so casual in its attitude to its own supporters.
No word of an apology to the fans I notice from the staff - although Luke Shaw had some sympathy for us on the OS.

Well let's find a positive from this: The club must be planning something quite spectacular in the League for our last 12 games if we have given up in the Cup....

Fair play to Sunderland - they wanted it more, they were hungrier for it, they outplayed and out thought us and they deserved the result.
Good luck to them I say, (although I will be grinding my teeth if they get a soft home draw in the quarter-final tomorrow).
There was a time when the FA Cup meant something, and my moniker shows I come from a time when SFC loved the Cup - well not any more. The fans might think it is worth turning out for, and 1000 of us did so, but the club with next season's participation in the Premiership pretty much in the bag and a chance for a Wembley Final stuck two fingers up at us and fielded a weak team. I would have thought the rest of the League season would now be about bringing on the kids and the Cup would be something we would go for. If I had not seen it with my own eyes I would not have believed a Pochettino team jogging about without a care in the world 0-1 facing a 5th round cup exit and not giving a ****. Then Perez pops up saying he's a little bit sad about it - is he taking a sample? If this is the way forward for SFC then he and Poch and the rest of them can get lost. I do not expect any team wearing the Saints shirt to show such a lack of respect to such a part of the fabric of the English game as the FA Cup and to be so casual in its attitude to its own supporters. No word of an apology to the fans I notice from the staff - although Luke Shaw had some sympathy for us on the OS. Well let's find a positive from this: The club must be planning something quite spectacular in the League for our last 12 games if we have given up in the Cup.... Fair play to Sunderland - they wanted it more, they were hungrier for it, they outplayed and out thought us and they deserved the result. Good luck to them I say, (although I will be grinding my teeth if they get a soft home draw in the quarter-final tomorrow). Jan28th1984

2:33am Sun 16 Feb 14

Block 42 says...

Give some credit to sunderland they played well and are a good team.possibly the best team we have played all week.why did guly start?does any living human know?that man would do well to get in the skates team.#nojoke.
Give some credit to sunderland they played well and are a good team.possibly the best team we have played all week.why did guly start?does any living human know?that man would do well to get in the skates team.#nojoke. Block 42

3:10am Sun 16 Feb 14

Tirau Dan says...

I wish Jesus a speedy recovery and a swift resurrection after this crucifixion by the mob.

It was a decent team we put out: 6 changes v 9 changes in theirs.. A few badly missed chances, the guys will have to live down but I'm sticking with Poch and his crew.

UP The Saints Forever.. COYR
I wish Jesus a speedy recovery and a swift resurrection after this crucifixion by the mob. It was a decent team we put out: 6 changes v 9 changes in theirs.. A few badly missed chances, the guys will have to live down but I'm sticking with Poch and his crew. UP The Saints Forever.. COYR Tirau Dan

4:05am Sun 16 Feb 14

Rising_Son says...

WobblyCat wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
SWAYTHLING SAINT wrote:
Well all the Guly fans got their wish and the maestro didn't deliver, as per usual. Shame we still don't have Danny Fox, he would have looked top draw today.
And the Guly haters got what they wanted, another Saints defeat.
Guly's contract ends this summer, do you think he should be offered a new one? That's a serious question, I'm not picking fight. Should he be given a new contract? I have never rated him as in my opinion he is poor more often that good. The suggestion that any Saints fan would want us to lose a game to satisfy their own righteousness over a player they don't like is frankly laughable (in my opinion).
I don't think his contract should be renewed. He isn't prem quality.

But he does not pick himself to play and, as a Saints supporter, I will support him when he does. The suggestion that any Saints fan who supports Guly got their wish is probably less bizarre than the alternative.
[quote][p][bold]WobblyCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SWAYTHLING SAINT[/bold] wrote: Well all the Guly fans got their wish and the maestro didn't deliver, as per usual. Shame we still don't have Danny Fox, he would have looked top draw today.[/p][/quote]And the Guly haters got what they wanted, another Saints defeat.[/p][/quote]Guly's contract ends this summer, do you think he should be offered a new one? That's a serious question, I'm not picking fight. Should he be given a new contract? I have never rated him as in my opinion he is poor more often that good. The suggestion that any Saints fan would want us to lose a game to satisfy their own righteousness over a player they don't like is frankly laughable (in my opinion).[/p][/quote]I don't think his contract should be renewed. He isn't prem quality. But he does not pick himself to play and, as a Saints supporter, I will support him when he does. The suggestion that any Saints fan who supports Guly got their wish is probably less bizarre than the alternative. Rising_Son

4:40am Sun 16 Feb 14

Rising_Son says...

Rising_Son wrote:
WobblyCat wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
SWAYTHLING SAINT wrote:
Well all the Guly fans got their wish and the maestro didn't deliver, as per usual. Shame we still don't have Danny Fox, he would have looked top draw today.
And the Guly haters got what they wanted, another Saints defeat.
Guly's contract ends this summer, do you think he should be offered a new one? That's a serious question, I'm not picking fight. Should he be given a new contract? I have never rated him as in my opinion he is poor more often that good. The suggestion that any Saints fan would want us to lose a game to satisfy their own righteousness over a player they don't like is frankly laughable (in my opinion).
I don't think his contract should be renewed. He isn't prem quality.

But he does not pick himself to play and, as a Saints supporter, I will support him when he does. The suggestion that any Saints fan who supports Guly got their wish is probably less bizarre than the alternative.
less -> more
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WobblyCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SWAYTHLING SAINT[/bold] wrote: Well all the Guly fans got their wish and the maestro didn't deliver, as per usual. Shame we still don't have Danny Fox, he would have looked top draw today.[/p][/quote]And the Guly haters got what they wanted, another Saints defeat.[/p][/quote]Guly's contract ends this summer, do you think he should be offered a new one? That's a serious question, I'm not picking fight. Should he be given a new contract? I have never rated him as in my opinion he is poor more often that good. The suggestion that any Saints fan would want us to lose a game to satisfy their own righteousness over a player they don't like is frankly laughable (in my opinion).[/p][/quote]I don't think his contract should be renewed. He isn't prem quality. But he does not pick himself to play and, as a Saints supporter, I will support him when he does. The suggestion that any Saints fan who supports Guly got their wish is probably less bizarre than the alternative.[/p][/quote]less -> more Rising_Son

7:30am Sun 16 Feb 14

costa gaz says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Does anyone else find it bizarre that the assistant manager takes charge for cup games....
Just can't get my head around that one.
As soon as the team was announced I got a few €'s on a home win, easiest money I'll ever make... we lost before a ball was kicked.
Before today I was thinking that we could.possibly finish above Man Utd in the league, not really sure that the club has any intention to attempt this now.

One positive to take from today is that Osprey does not comment on here anymore.
well that's the right attitude, defeatist from the start.
I don't know any saints fan who would bet real money on the team losing! it wasn't the easiest money you have ever made though was it, if SRL, a player that no doubt you would have wanted on the team sheet, had scored that chance then you would have lost your money. well at least you've made a few quid out of picking your team to lose!
why you think that because of a very poor cup performance that the club no longer wants to push as high up the league as they can is beyond me. I suppose you will be trying to make a bit more money out of wanting saints to lose?
nice to see that your delighted that osprey has decided that he no longer wants to post any longer and that you take that as a positive from todays defeat (I really don't get the connection). again what a great supporter you must be, glad we lost so that a person you have never met no longer joins in on these forums, probably because he has different opinions to you. osprey is a harmless old, sorry osprey, geezer who uses these forums to show his support for the whole team and club and as a way of contacting other fans.
don't stop posting osprey, I may not always like everything you post, but you are often amusing and that's fine by me. anyway if posters like you, who are here regardless of the result disappeared, who would be here when we win? most of the moaners never turn up unless we lose.
as bad as we were, and we were bad, I still cant get my head around a saints fan betting on us to lose. must have been delighted when SRL put the ball over. well I suppose it must be a nice feeling knowing you've got a bit more money in your pocket!
I've had enough lectures questioning mine and many other fans about their level of loyalty to The Saints from Osprey to last me a lifetime, don't really need another from you thank you.
You see 101. i am a realist, I'd already picked up on the fact that MP did not want to take part in the Europa league and therefore would not make any real attempt to win this game.
I am a believer that you have to do your best in everything you attempt, with today' s team selection our management failed us, their nonchalant approach to the game rubbed off on the players I'm afraid and the result was inevitable.
Only in my humble opinion of course.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Does anyone else find it bizarre that the assistant manager takes charge for cup games.... Just can't get my head around that one. As soon as the team was announced I got a few €'s on a home win, easiest money I'll ever make... we lost before a ball was kicked. Before today I was thinking that we could.possibly finish above Man Utd in the league, not really sure that the club has any intention to attempt this now. One positive to take from today is that Osprey does not comment on here anymore.[/p][/quote]well that's the right attitude, defeatist from the start. I don't know any saints fan who would bet real money on the team losing! it wasn't the easiest money you have ever made though was it, if SRL, a player that no doubt you would have wanted on the team sheet, had scored that chance then you would have lost your money. well at least you've made a few quid out of picking your team to lose! why you think that because of a very poor cup performance that the club no longer wants to push as high up the league as they can is beyond me. I suppose you will be trying to make a bit more money out of wanting saints to lose? nice to see that your delighted that osprey has decided that he no longer wants to post any longer and that you take that as a positive from todays defeat (I really don't get the connection). again what a great supporter you must be, glad we lost so that a person you have never met no longer joins in on these forums, probably because he has different opinions to you. osprey is a harmless old, sorry osprey, geezer who uses these forums to show his support for the whole team and club and as a way of contacting other fans. don't stop posting osprey, I may not always like everything you post, but you are often amusing and that's fine by me. anyway if posters like you, who are here regardless of the result disappeared, who would be here when we win? most of the moaners never turn up unless we lose. as bad as we were, and we were bad, I still cant get my head around a saints fan betting on us to lose. must have been delighted when SRL put the ball over. well I suppose it must be a nice feeling knowing you've got a bit more money in your pocket![/p][/quote]I've had enough lectures questioning mine and many other fans about their level of loyalty to The Saints from Osprey to last me a lifetime, don't really need another from you thank you. You see 101. i am a realist, I'd already picked up on the fact that MP did not want to take part in the Europa league and therefore would not make any real attempt to win this game. I am a believer that you have to do your best in everything you attempt, with today' s team selection our management failed us, their nonchalant approach to the game rubbed off on the players I'm afraid and the result was inevitable. Only in my humble opinion of course. costa gaz

7:31am Sun 16 Feb 14

mickey01 says...

when the young players decide to leave they will say it is "to win something" and bot did they have a chance thrown away yesterday. we are never a top 6 side let alone a top 4 so this was our best chance to get something and poch blew it !!malcy mackay for me **** off to madrid jesus
when the young players decide to leave they will say it is "to win something" and bot did they have a chance thrown away yesterday. we are never a top 6 side let alone a top 4 so this was our best chance to get something and poch blew it !!malcy mackay for me **** off to madrid jesus mickey01

8:05am Sun 16 Feb 14

jls217 says...

mickey01 wrote:
when the young players decide to leave they will say it is "to win something" and bot did they have a chance thrown away yesterday. we are never a top 6 side let alone a top 4 so this was our best chance to get something and poch blew it !!malcy mackay for me **** off to madrid jesus
Right on the first part mate there will be regrets and repercussions too - at least verbal ones from the fans.

However Poch didn't blow it - the players did that, for whatever reason they just were not up for it and it showed.

You have Mackay if you wish - I'll stick with the current management set up thank you. They've done us proud so far and if they've made a mistake or two along the way, as long as they learn from it that's fine too. Far too much hysterical over-reaction to what is just down to a crap performance by the players - they are the ones who should be doing what Nigel Adkins suggested and start looking at the man in the mirror. A short while ago most of us would've wanted Poch and co to run the country and now you're wanting to pack him off to Madrid. Fickle, rash and a trifle silly old chap.
[quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: when the young players decide to leave they will say it is "to win something" and bot did they have a chance thrown away yesterday. we are never a top 6 side let alone a top 4 so this was our best chance to get something and poch blew it !!malcy mackay for me **** off to madrid jesus[/p][/quote]Right on the first part mate there will be regrets and repercussions too - at least verbal ones from the fans. However Poch didn't blow it - the players did that, for whatever reason they just were not up for it and it showed. You have Mackay if you wish - I'll stick with the current management set up thank you. They've done us proud so far and if they've made a mistake or two along the way, as long as they learn from it that's fine too. Far too much hysterical over-reaction to what is just down to a crap performance by the players - they are the ones who should be doing what Nigel Adkins suggested and start looking at the man in the mirror. A short while ago most of us would've wanted Poch and co to run the country and now you're wanting to pack him off to Madrid. Fickle, rash and a trifle silly old chap. jls217

8:32am Sun 16 Feb 14

Norwegian Saint says...

swesaint wrote:
Norwegian Saint wrote:
is Jesus the cup manager? He comes out to do the interviews, so is it him that picks the cup teams? If so.... FU*KING pack your bags and FU'K off after that interview! Disgraceful answers! Get your wallet out and pay the fans!
Yes... I'm still angry, I feel sick about that selection and result but fuming with his blazay interview.
Great attitude towards our management, disgrace to call yourself a supporter.
Swesaint, I am as proud a supporter as you could ever dream of. Never question my loyalty to the Saints. The interview by Jesus was cringeworthy and a disgrace to come out and say the guys aren't disappointed! +19 votes (so far) shows others want to know what role this guy does and that yesterday he was an embarrassment to us supporters. If you read other posts I am calling MoPo a world class manager but his staff member was a Fuc'king idiot for the comments he made and yes, if he decides the team, if he decides to come out and talk like Saints didn't care then he can go. I nearly flew over for the match and although it was a poor performance from the team I was (and still am) fuming with his comments!
I guess you might be a little sour about us Norwegians beating the Swedes too? But never ever question my support of the Saints!
[quote][p][bold]swesaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: is Jesus the cup manager? He comes out to do the interviews, so is it him that picks the cup teams? If so.... FU*KING pack your bags and FU'K off after that interview! Disgraceful answers! Get your wallet out and pay the fans! Yes... I'm still angry, I feel sick about that selection and result but fuming with his blazay interview.[/p][/quote]Great attitude towards our management, disgrace to call yourself a supporter.[/p][/quote]Swesaint, I am as proud a supporter as you could ever dream of. Never question my loyalty to the Saints. The interview by Jesus was cringeworthy and a disgrace to come out and say the guys aren't disappointed! +19 votes (so far) shows others want to know what role this guy does and that yesterday he was an embarrassment to us supporters. If you read other posts I am calling MoPo a world class manager but his staff member was a Fuc'king idiot for the comments he made and yes, if he decides the team, if he decides to come out and talk like Saints didn't care then he can go. I nearly flew over for the match and although it was a poor performance from the team I was (and still am) fuming with his comments! I guess you might be a little sour about us Norwegians beating the Swedes too? But never ever question my support of the Saints! Norwegian Saint

8:34am Sun 16 Feb 14

Rising_Son says...

costa gaz gives us another dose of opinion and speculation and claims it's reality. Poor deluded soul. The only demonstrable reality is that we are out of the FA cup but doing pretty well in the Premier league.
costa gaz gives us another dose of opinion and speculation and claims it's reality. Poor deluded soul. The only demonstrable reality is that we are out of the FA cup but doing pretty well in the Premier league. Rising_Son

8:38am Sun 16 Feb 14

Rising_Son says...

mickey01 wrote:
when the young players decide to leave they will say it is "to win something" and bot did they have a chance thrown away yesterday. we are never a top 6 side let alone a top 4 so this was our best chance to get something and poch blew it !!malcy mackay for me **** off to madrid jesus
Yep. Mackay was so much more successful with Cardiff than Pochettino has been with Saints, he's obviously what we need.
[quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: when the young players decide to leave they will say it is "to win something" and bot did they have a chance thrown away yesterday. we are never a top 6 side let alone a top 4 so this was our best chance to get something and poch blew it !!malcy mackay for me **** off to madrid jesus[/p][/quote]Yep. Mackay was so much more successful with Cardiff than Pochettino has been with Saints, he's obviously what we need. Rising_Son

8:51am Sun 16 Feb 14

redduke says...

donni1437 wrote:
redduke wrote:
Is it any wonder fans don't support the FA Cup like they used to?
Play your strongest line up from the start, it's easier to protect a lead rather than chase a game. I got the feeling that the players who did retain their places today weren't happy with MP's decision, reflected in the fact that they all had poor games.
Hats off to the travelling fans, but even the most die-hard of them must be questioning their decision to go today when your manager clearly doesn't 'get' the FA Cup and what it means to us.
So player dissent was the reason we lost... hmmmm interesting theory.
Wouldn't go so far as to call it dissent,but we only have a dozen games left to play in three months, there was no need to rest any-one, so I think it may have been somewhat demoralising for the retained players.
Probably the best chance to get to Wembley in years, and the last chance for one or two of them.
[quote][p][bold]donni1437[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redduke[/bold] wrote: Is it any wonder fans don't support the FA Cup like they used to? Play your strongest line up from the start, it's easier to protect a lead rather than chase a game. I got the feeling that the players who did retain their places today weren't happy with MP's decision, reflected in the fact that they all had poor games. Hats off to the travelling fans, but even the most die-hard of them must be questioning their decision to go today when your manager clearly doesn't 'get' the FA Cup and what it means to us.[/p][/quote]So player dissent was the reason we lost... hmmmm interesting theory.[/p][/quote]Wouldn't go so far as to call it dissent,but we only have a dozen games left to play in three months, there was no need to rest any-one, so I think it may have been somewhat demoralising for the retained players. Probably the best chance to get to Wembley in years, and the last chance for one or two of them. redduke

8:54am Sun 16 Feb 14

sledgerite says...

poor performance from saints against a very poor sunderland side I personally thought the side selected was on paper plenty strong enough to beat a poor side.Lets break it down up till their goal kelvin davis hasn't had to get his gloves dirty then for their goal victor wanyama makes a challenge that my grandmother would have been embarresed with and shes no longer with us,we then proceed to miss chances to get a result so please don't just blame team selection.and to the so called fans who saw fit to tear jos hooveld a new one at the end for being the only one to come over f*** off and support someone else the man was wearing our shirt and did little wrong in the game
poor performance from saints against a very poor sunderland side I personally thought the side selected was on paper plenty strong enough to beat a poor side.Lets break it down up till their goal kelvin davis hasn't had to get his gloves dirty then for their goal victor wanyama makes a challenge that my grandmother would have been embarresed with and shes no longer with us,we then proceed to miss chances to get a result so please don't just blame team selection.and to the so called fans who saw fit to tear jos hooveld a new one at the end for being the only one to come over f*** off and support someone else the man was wearing our shirt and did little wrong in the game sledgerite

9:07am Sun 16 Feb 14

up saints says...

iam not reading through 150 posts i must be thick can someone explain to me why a team was put out not good enough to beat sunderland.i could understand if we was in the bottom 6.the game was lost in midfield sch should of started and cork should of come on at half time if needed.if premiership teams are not intrested in the fa cup they should not be in it in the first place.i fell sorry for all the travelling fan all over the country who make the effort to go to the games.
iam not reading through 150 posts i must be thick can someone explain to me why a team was put out not good enough to beat sunderland.i could understand if we was in the bottom 6.the game was lost in midfield sch should of started and cork should of come on at half time if needed.if premiership teams are not intrested in the fa cup they should not be in it in the first place.i fell sorry for all the travelling fan all over the country who make the effort to go to the games. up saints

9:08am Sun 16 Feb 14

redsnapper says...

wagsta wrote:
miltonarcher wrote:
Steve in Swindon wrote:
Don't understand all this stuff about our priority being a 'top 8' finish and sod the FA Cup.

You won't see Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal or Liverpool putting out second string teams this weekend - wonder why they can all manage to focus on the Premier title AND the FA Cup (& the Champions League) at the same time?

City played practically their strongest team tonight and yet they are playing Barcelona on Tuesday night. Who are we playing in midweek? Oh I forgot - nobody!!!

We're safe from relegation by a country mile so why not have a real crack at the Cup. We've got nothing else to play for this season.

Saints and Pochetinno in particular are getting a right slating on 606 tonight from both the pundits and the 'phone-ins'. Rightly so too!

As I understand it we're not interested in a top 6 finish because Poch doesn't fancy the Europa League either. Maybe we should just declare now rather than go through the motions till the end of the season (after all we're almost safe already).

Feel sorry for the fans who got up at god knows what time this morning and spent hard earned cash to watch such a dismal performance. players.

And a final suggestion for the (probably) highly paid PR team at St.Mary's - don't put that clown Jesus in front of the TV cameras again - it was embarasing.
Spot on
Put simply Chelsea, Man City, et al all have 'kin huge squads.
Even more simply none of those big teams would end up in the rubbish Europa League.

Just look at how Swansea and Newcastle have "lost it" due to Europa League participation.
[quote][p][bold]wagsta[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steve in Swindon[/bold] wrote: Don't understand all this stuff about our priority being a 'top 8' finish and sod the FA Cup. You won't see Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal or Liverpool putting out second string teams this weekend - wonder why they can all manage to focus on the Premier title AND the FA Cup (& the Champions League) at the same time? City played practically their strongest team tonight and yet they are playing Barcelona on Tuesday night. Who are we playing in midweek? Oh I forgot - nobody!!! We're safe from relegation by a country mile so why not have a real crack at the Cup. We've got nothing else to play for this season. Saints and Pochetinno in particular are getting a right slating on 606 tonight from both the pundits and the 'phone-ins'. Rightly so too! As I understand it we're not interested in a top 6 finish because Poch doesn't fancy the Europa League either. Maybe we should just declare now rather than go through the motions till the end of the season (after all we're almost safe already). Feel sorry for the fans who got up at god knows what time this morning and spent hard earned cash to watch such a dismal performance. players. And a final suggestion for the (probably) highly paid PR team at St.Mary's - don't put that clown Jesus in front of the TV cameras again - it was embarasing.[/p][/quote]Spot on[/p][/quote]Put simply Chelsea, Man City, et al all have 'kin huge squads.[/p][/quote]Even more simply none of those big teams would end up in the rubbish Europa League. Just look at how Swansea and Newcastle have "lost it" due to Europa League participation. redsnapper

9:09am Sun 16 Feb 14

jls217 says...

sledgerite wrote:
poor performance from saints against a very poor sunderland side I personally thought the side selected was on paper plenty strong enough to beat a poor side.Lets break it down up till their goal kelvin davis hasn't had to get his gloves dirty then for their goal victor wanyama makes a challenge that my grandmother would have been embarresed with and shes no longer with us,we then proceed to miss chances to get a result so please don't just blame team selection.and to the so called fans who saw fit to tear jos hooveld a new one at the end for being the only one to come over f*** off and support someone else the man was wearing our shirt and did little wrong in the game
Didn't Jos do that but respect for him doing so - shame a few of the others didn'[t follow suit it could've been seen as some sort of apology for their display. Sunderland were pretty dire but we were worse. Everyone has a bad day at the office I guess, it's just that when eleven all have a bad day at the same time and nothing goes right there are many thousands who feel the pain. Of course it wasn't team selection or anything related to it. Those selected have all shown they can provide entertainment. It's just that for whatever reason they just didn't do it yesterday. Fans like to win cups and cups wins more fans and makes more money and gives greater prestige (to the managers, the players and the club) so it just leaves me saddened and wondering wtf just happened. We would, on any other day, with the same team steamrollered the likes of the Mackems and they would have come off the park wondering what had just hit them. Ricky is the most reliable of pros and yet even he was second to the ball and seemed disinterested. Lallana moves you to the edge of the seat every time he gets the ball but yesterday even he just made me yawn and groan.
Next weekend they're going to be great though!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]sledgerite[/bold] wrote: poor performance from saints against a very poor sunderland side I personally thought the side selected was on paper plenty strong enough to beat a poor side.Lets break it down up till their goal kelvin davis hasn't had to get his gloves dirty then for their goal victor wanyama makes a challenge that my grandmother would have been embarresed with and shes no longer with us,we then proceed to miss chances to get a result so please don't just blame team selection.and to the so called fans who saw fit to tear jos hooveld a new one at the end for being the only one to come over f*** off and support someone else the man was wearing our shirt and did little wrong in the game[/p][/quote]Didn't Jos do that but respect for him doing so - shame a few of the others didn'[t follow suit it could've been seen as some sort of apology for their display. Sunderland were pretty dire but we were worse. Everyone has a bad day at the office I guess, it's just that when eleven all have a bad day at the same time and nothing goes right there are many thousands who feel the pain. Of course it wasn't team selection or anything related to it. Those selected have all shown they can provide entertainment. It's just that for whatever reason they just didn't do it yesterday. Fans like to win cups and cups wins more fans and makes more money and gives greater prestige (to the managers, the players and the club) so it just leaves me saddened and wondering wtf just happened. We would, on any other day, with the same team steamrollered the likes of the Mackems and they would have come off the park wondering what had just hit them. Ricky is the most reliable of pros and yet even he was second to the ball and seemed disinterested. Lallana moves you to the edge of the seat every time he gets the ball but yesterday even he just made me yawn and groan. Next weekend they're going to be great though!!!!!! jls217

9:18am Sun 16 Feb 14

mickey01 says...

jls217 wrote:
mickey01 wrote:
when the young players decide to leave they will say it is "to win something" and bot did they have a chance thrown away yesterday. we are never a top 6 side let alone a top 4 so this was our best chance to get something and poch blew it !!malcy mackay for me **** off to madrid jesus
Right on the first part mate there will be regrets and repercussions too - at least verbal ones from the fans.

However Poch didn't blow it - the players did that, for whatever reason they just were not up for it and it showed.

You have Mackay if you wish - I'll stick with the current management set up thank you. They've done us proud so far and if they've made a mistake or two along the way, as long as they learn from it that's fine too. Far too much hysterical over-reaction to what is just down to a crap performance by the players - they are the ones who should be doing what Nigel Adkins suggested and start looking at the man in the mirror. A short while ago most of us would've wanted Poch and co to run the country and now you're wanting to pack him off to Madrid. Fickle, rash and a trifle silly old chap.
i know you are right and the second part was just my letting off steam instead of kicking the cat you know **** well we will all be cheering them on for the rest of the season whatever has, and will happen
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: when the young players decide to leave they will say it is "to win something" and bot did they have a chance thrown away yesterday. we are never a top 6 side let alone a top 4 so this was our best chance to get something and poch blew it !!malcy mackay for me **** off to madrid jesus[/p][/quote]Right on the first part mate there will be regrets and repercussions too - at least verbal ones from the fans. However Poch didn't blow it - the players did that, for whatever reason they just were not up for it and it showed. You have Mackay if you wish - I'll stick with the current management set up thank you. They've done us proud so far and if they've made a mistake or two along the way, as long as they learn from it that's fine too. Far too much hysterical over-reaction to what is just down to a crap performance by the players - they are the ones who should be doing what Nigel Adkins suggested and start looking at the man in the mirror. A short while ago most of us would've wanted Poch and co to run the country and now you're wanting to pack him off to Madrid. Fickle, rash and a trifle silly old chap.[/p][/quote]i know you are right and the second part was just my letting off steam instead of kicking the cat you know **** well we will all be cheering them on for the rest of the season whatever has, and will happen mickey01

9:27am Sun 16 Feb 14

LeTissLeGod says...

Can someone please please tell me what Guly Do Prado has to offer my beloved Saints ?????? He's not even a good championship player,when did he last have a good game for us ??????? Get rid ASAP
Can someone please please tell me what Guly Do Prado has to offer my beloved Saints ?????? He's not even a good championship player,when did he last have a good game for us ??????? Get rid ASAP LeTissLeGod

9:33am Sun 16 Feb 14

StElsass says...

I assume MP and Jesus are aware that there is a scenario where the team finishing 7th could qualify for the Europa League.
We're only 3 points away from that, so perhaps we should put out a reserve team at West Ham next week, just in case.
Only, I'd appreciate if they could let us know in advance so I could save the travel expenses
I assume MP and Jesus are aware that there is a scenario where the team finishing 7th could qualify for the Europa League. We're only 3 points away from that, so perhaps we should put out a reserve team at West Ham next week, just in case. Only, I'd appreciate if they could let us know in advance so I could save the travel expenses StElsass

9:40am Sun 16 Feb 14

LeTissLeGod says...

StElsass wrote:
I assume MP and Jesus are aware that there is a scenario where the team finishing 7th could qualify for the Europa League.
We're only 3 points away from that, so perhaps we should put out a reserve team at West Ham next week, just in case.
Only, I'd appreciate if they could let us know in advance so I could save the travel expenses
Well said mate
[quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: I assume MP and Jesus are aware that there is a scenario where the team finishing 7th could qualify for the Europa League. We're only 3 points away from that, so perhaps we should put out a reserve team at West Ham next week, just in case. Only, I'd appreciate if they could let us know in advance so I could save the travel expenses[/p][/quote]Well said mate LeTissLeGod

9:56am Sun 16 Feb 14

StElsass says...

sledgerite wrote:
poor performance from saints against a very poor sunderland side I personally thought the side selected was on paper plenty strong enough to beat a poor side.Lets break it down up till their goal kelvin davis hasn't had to get his gloves dirty then for their goal victor wanyama makes a challenge that my grandmother would have been embarresed with and shes no longer with us,we then proceed to miss chances to get a result so please don't just blame team selection.and to the so called fans who saw fit to tear jos hooveld a new one at the end for being the only one to come over f*** off and support someone else the man was wearing our shirt and did little wrong in the game
Agreed, the performance was dire and given that Sunderland made 9 changes from their last game we should still have won with the team we put out.
However, making 5 changes ourselves when we don't have a mid week game coming up and have nothing else to play for doesn't exactly send out the right message, does it? Especially when over the past week, we've been told about how we want to win this competition and how the spirit of '76 is back!
[quote][p][bold]sledgerite[/bold] wrote: poor performance from saints against a very poor sunderland side I personally thought the side selected was on paper plenty strong enough to beat a poor side.Lets break it down up till their goal kelvin davis hasn't had to get his gloves dirty then for their goal victor wanyama makes a challenge that my grandmother would have been embarresed with and shes no longer with us,we then proceed to miss chances to get a result so please don't just blame team selection.and to the so called fans who saw fit to tear jos hooveld a new one at the end for being the only one to come over f*** off and support someone else the man was wearing our shirt and did little wrong in the game[/p][/quote]Agreed, the performance was dire and given that Sunderland made 9 changes from their last game we should still have won with the team we put out. However, making 5 changes ourselves when we don't have a mid week game coming up and have nothing else to play for doesn't exactly send out the right message, does it? Especially when over the past week, we've been told about how we want to win this competition and how the spirit of '76 is back! StElsass

9:59am Sun 16 Feb 14

Blackknight says...

Lacklustre performance, no spark, seems like MoPo's disinterest '?' in the cup had rubbed off onto the team. A good goal won it though.
Lacklustre performance, no spark, seems like MoPo's disinterest '?' in the cup had rubbed off onto the team. A good goal won it though. Blackknight

10:08am Sun 16 Feb 14

miltonnroad76 says...

Cant blame anyone in particular they were all awful they made Hoover look like our best player.Slow ,2nd to the ball ,no pressing or accurate passing looked like that game in Hull took it out of them.
Was great chance for a cup run as we are almost safe and i too am puzzled resting players when we dont have a game for a week.
Ive not been one to jump on Gully but watching him yesterday what a waste of space...he was no worse than the rest yesterday tho...Sam should have been brought on earlier and maybe reed they would have at least been fresh and shown enthusiasm.
Not depressed to be out of the cup as much as the manner of the defeat..lifeless but at least we cant blame the bad luck or refs decisons they deserved to lose this one.
Cant blame anyone in particular they were all awful they made Hoover look like our best player.Slow ,2nd to the ball ,no pressing or accurate passing looked like that game in Hull took it out of them. Was great chance for a cup run as we are almost safe and i too am puzzled resting players when we dont have a game for a week. Ive not been one to jump on Gully but watching him yesterday what a waste of space...he was no worse than the rest yesterday tho...Sam should have been brought on earlier and maybe reed they would have at least been fresh and shown enthusiasm. Not depressed to be out of the cup as much as the manner of the defeat..lifeless but at least we cant blame the bad luck or refs decisons they deserved to lose this one. miltonnroad76

10:15am Sun 16 Feb 14

boilerman says...

Can someone please tell me when it is the right time to take the cup seriously.
When we got relegated under Harry he put out a weaker team against Man u saying survival was the priority, we still went down.
When we were fighting for our lives in the championship, we still went down
When we were in league one and the Championship promotion was our priority and we got it.
Last season survival was our priority, we acheived that .
This season we are safe but it is still the wrong time to take the cup seriously.
Going by this logic teams in all four divisions that are fighting for survival or promotion, or finishing in the Prems top four have a reason to forget about the cup.
So when will be in a positon to take the FA cup seriosly?
Can someone please tell me when it is the right time to take the cup seriously. When we got relegated under Harry he put out a weaker team against Man u saying survival was the priority, we still went down. When we were fighting for our lives in the championship, we still went down When we were in league one and the Championship promotion was our priority and we got it. Last season survival was our priority, we acheived that . This season we are safe but it is still the wrong time to take the cup seriously. Going by this logic teams in all four divisions that are fighting for survival or promotion, or finishing in the Prems top four have a reason to forget about the cup. So when will be in a positon to take the FA cup seriosly? boilerman

10:16am Sun 16 Feb 14

Saint. says...

I as any other Saints fan is annoyed and sadden to go out, but shame on many of you, and slightly shortsighted too. You over look many things and many sound like those stupid commentators who think and want Saints to be a small club and had so much crap about what Saints should of done, and you come on here and regurgitate it!

Firstly respect to all those travelling fans for travelling all that way, for an early start and in those dangerous conditions! TOTAL RESPECT!

Points to think may be....

1 MP clearly loves his back room staff and they have brought this club up to play high pressured game, which is exciting to watching and out playing most teams we've played, even if we didn't collect all the points! On that I think MP shares everything with his team and brings them to the forefront for cup games! what's wrong with that?

2 I appreciate our standard of game is so high now, but do the moaning Saints fans really think we deserve to win every single game? Which team does? Even in one cup competitions which was slowly opening up for us to win!

3 simply the pitch was awful! The conditions were hideous to play in too!

4 It was only one blistering pot luck shot that caught the wind and that beat a second choice goalie, who was slightly out of positions in the first place!

5 Despite the changes the experience players did not have a great game either! Lambert, Lallana and Davis who have been brilliant this season were slightly off in this game. It does happen and nothing to do with the changes!

6 the changes were of good quality anyway, and if your honest should of beaten Monkey boy!

7 Monkey boy has a hold on Saints, I think when he was a Brighton he must of paid a visit to a travelling gypsy of something.

8 Whose to say that playing our strongest side we would of won? On the day we would of still most likely lost by one goal. as mention many players were not having their best game anyway!

9 would all you moaners would of been happy if we played our best team, and say spider broke down and lost for a month or more. We have to trust MP to get our best players through the whole season!

10 For all those stupid half empty cup supporters who also listen to all that crap on the TV from the commentators! NEWSFLASH! Southampton FC still very much to play for this season! Look at the league! We are best placed to hit higher places!! We have a good run of games coming, and the higher we go the more money this club gets!! We can still make Europe even if the pundits what all TV viewers to think this small coastal club is punching above its weight and all should think we will be lucky to finish 9th. Perfected statement ! Now with this cup exit I would expect MP to win as many games in hopefully better weather condition and throw Southampton FC to six or above. It's with in our hands and we are only a few points behind, and is the only course Saints must apply if our development to winning this league in sometime in the near future.

11 the higher we are the better the player we can attract in the summer!!

Come on don't listen to so called TV pundits who know nothing and easy to think us as a small club that just makes up the numbers!

We have the BEST manager! We have the best TEAM spirit! We have the best way of of PLAYING football! We have the BEST club!

Finish high in the league as possibly, and buy some top quality players in the summer. Southampton cup is half full!
I as any other Saints fan is annoyed and sadden to go out, but shame on many of you, and slightly shortsighted too. You over look many things and many sound like those stupid commentators who think and want Saints to be a small club and had so much crap about what Saints should of done, and you come on here and regurgitate it! Firstly respect to all those travelling fans for travelling all that way, for an early start and in those dangerous conditions! TOTAL RESPECT! Points to think may be.... 1 MP clearly loves his back room staff and they have brought this club up to play high pressured game, which is exciting to watching and out playing most teams we've played, even if we didn't collect all the points! On that I think MP shares everything with his team and brings them to the forefront for cup games! what's wrong with that? 2 I appreciate our standard of game is so high now, but do the moaning Saints fans really think we deserve to win every single game? Which team does? Even in one cup competitions which was slowly opening up for us to win! 3 simply the pitch was awful! The conditions were hideous to play in too! 4 It was only one blistering pot luck shot that caught the wind and that beat a second choice goalie, who was slightly out of positions in the first place! 5 Despite the changes the experience players did not have a great game either! Lambert, Lallana and Davis who have been brilliant this season were slightly off in this game. It does happen and nothing to do with the changes! 6 the changes were of good quality anyway, and if your honest should of beaten Monkey boy! 7 Monkey boy has a hold on Saints, I think when he was a Brighton he must of paid a visit to a travelling gypsy of something. 8 Whose to say that playing our strongest side we would of won? On the day we would of still most likely lost by one goal. as mention many players were not having their best game anyway! 9 would all you moaners would of been happy if we played our best team, and say spider broke down and lost for a month or more. We have to trust MP to get our best players through the whole season! 10 For all those stupid half empty cup supporters who also listen to all that crap on the TV from the commentators! NEWSFLASH! Southampton FC still very much to play for this season! Look at the league! We are best placed to hit higher places!! We have a good run of games coming, and the higher we go the more money this club gets!! We can still make Europe even if the pundits what all TV viewers to think this small coastal club is punching above its weight and all should think we will be lucky to finish 9th. Perfected statement ! Now with this cup exit I would expect MP to win as many games in hopefully better weather condition and throw Southampton FC to six or above. It's with in our hands and we are only a few points behind, and is the only course Saints must apply if our development to winning this league in sometime in the near future. 11 the higher we are the better the player we can attract in the summer!! Come on don't listen to so called TV pundits who know nothing and easy to think us as a small club that just makes up the numbers! We have the BEST manager! We have the best TEAM spirit! We have the best way of of PLAYING football! We have the BEST club! Finish high in the league as possibly, and buy some top quality players in the summer. Southampton cup is half full! Saint.

10:26am Sun 16 Feb 14

StElsass says...

Saint. wrote:
I as any other Saints fan is annoyed and sadden to go out, but shame on many of you, and slightly shortsighted too. You over look many things and many sound like those stupid commentators who think and want Saints to be a small club and had so much crap about what Saints should of done, and you come on here and regurgitate it!

Firstly respect to all those travelling fans for travelling all that way, for an early start and in those dangerous conditions! TOTAL RESPECT!

Points to think may be....

1 MP clearly loves his back room staff and they have brought this club up to play high pressured game, which is exciting to watching and out playing most teams we've played, even if we didn't collect all the points! On that I think MP shares everything with his team and brings them to the forefront for cup games! what's wrong with that?

2 I appreciate our standard of game is so high now, but do the moaning Saints fans really think we deserve to win every single game? Which team does? Even in one cup competitions which was slowly opening up for us to win!

3 simply the pitch was awful! The conditions were hideous to play in too!

4 It was only one blistering pot luck shot that caught the wind and that beat a second choice goalie, who was slightly out of positions in the first place!

5 Despite the changes the experience players did not have a great game either! Lambert, Lallana and Davis who have been brilliant this season were slightly off in this game. It does happen and nothing to do with the changes!

6 the changes were of good quality anyway, and if your honest should of beaten Monkey boy!

7 Monkey boy has a hold on Saints, I think when he was a Brighton he must of paid a visit to a travelling gypsy of something.

8 Whose to say that playing our strongest side we would of won? On the day we would of still most likely lost by one goal. as mention many players were not having their best game anyway!

9 would all you moaners would of been happy if we played our best team, and say spider broke down and lost for a month or more. We have to trust MP to get our best players through the whole season!

10 For all those stupid half empty cup supporters who also listen to all that crap on the TV from the commentators! NEWSFLASH! Southampton FC still very much to play for this season! Look at the league! We are best placed to hit higher places!! We have a good run of games coming, and the higher we go the more money this club gets!! We can still make Europe even if the pundits what all TV viewers to think this small coastal club is punching above its weight and all should think we will be lucky to finish 9th. Perfected statement ! Now with this cup exit I would expect MP to win as many games in hopefully better weather condition and throw Southampton FC to six or above. It's with in our hands and we are only a few points behind, and is the only course Saints must apply if our development to winning this league in sometime in the near future.

11 the higher we are the better the player we can attract in the summer!!

Come on don't listen to so called TV pundits who know nothing and easy to think us as a small club that just makes up the numbers!

We have the BEST manager! We have the best TEAM spirit! We have the best way of of PLAYING football! We have the BEST club!

Finish high in the league as possibly, and buy some top quality players in the summer. Southampton cup is half full!
OK, we stop listening to the "experts" on TV who know nothing and instead read the pearls of wisdom from someone we don't know on an internet forum. Thanks for the advise.
Regarding your point number 10, I agree that we have a good chance to qualify for Europe. Only WE DON'T WANT TO!! Our manager has said that much himself.
And if we have the best manager and team, don't you think they're wasted playing for top 6 and nothing else?
[quote][p][bold]Saint.[/bold] wrote: I as any other Saints fan is annoyed and sadden to go out, but shame on many of you, and slightly shortsighted too. You over look many things and many sound like those stupid commentators who think and want Saints to be a small club and had so much crap about what Saints should of done, and you come on here and regurgitate it! Firstly respect to all those travelling fans for travelling all that way, for an early start and in those dangerous conditions! TOTAL RESPECT! Points to think may be.... 1 MP clearly loves his back room staff and they have brought this club up to play high pressured game, which is exciting to watching and out playing most teams we've played, even if we didn't collect all the points! On that I think MP shares everything with his team and brings them to the forefront for cup games! what's wrong with that? 2 I appreciate our standard of game is so high now, but do the moaning Saints fans really think we deserve to win every single game? Which team does? Even in one cup competitions which was slowly opening up for us to win! 3 simply the pitch was awful! The conditions were hideous to play in too! 4 It was only one blistering pot luck shot that caught the wind and that beat a second choice goalie, who was slightly out of positions in the first place! 5 Despite the changes the experience players did not have a great game either! Lambert, Lallana and Davis who have been brilliant this season were slightly off in this game. It does happen and nothing to do with the changes! 6 the changes were of good quality anyway, and if your honest should of beaten Monkey boy! 7 Monkey boy has a hold on Saints, I think when he was a Brighton he must of paid a visit to a travelling gypsy of something. 8 Whose to say that playing our strongest side we would of won? On the day we would of still most likely lost by one goal. as mention many players were not having their best game anyway! 9 would all you moaners would of been happy if we played our best team, and say spider broke down and lost for a month or more. We have to trust MP to get our best players through the whole season! 10 For all those stupid half empty cup supporters who also listen to all that crap on the TV from the commentators! NEWSFLASH! Southampton FC still very much to play for this season! Look at the league! We are best placed to hit higher places!! We have a good run of games coming, and the higher we go the more money this club gets!! We can still make Europe even if the pundits what all TV viewers to think this small coastal club is punching above its weight and all should think we will be lucky to finish 9th. Perfected statement ! Now with this cup exit I would expect MP to win as many games in hopefully better weather condition and throw Southampton FC to six or above. It's with in our hands and we are only a few points behind, and is the only course Saints must apply if our development to winning this league in sometime in the near future. 11 the higher we are the better the player we can attract in the summer!! Come on don't listen to so called TV pundits who know nothing and easy to think us as a small club that just makes up the numbers! We have the BEST manager! We have the best TEAM spirit! We have the best way of of PLAYING football! We have the BEST club! Finish high in the league as possibly, and buy some top quality players in the summer. Southampton cup is half full![/p][/quote]OK, we stop listening to the "experts" on TV who know nothing and instead read the pearls of wisdom from someone we don't know on an internet forum. Thanks for the advise. Regarding your point number 10, I agree that we have a good chance to qualify for Europe. Only WE DON'T WANT TO!! Our manager has said that much himself. And if we have the best manager and team, don't you think they're wasted playing for top 6 and nothing else? StElsass

10:45am Sun 16 Feb 14

mack chinnon says...

As from now I am going to refer to Rickie,s miss as "Doing a Kanu"
As from now I am going to refer to Rickie,s miss as "Doing a Kanu" mack chinnon

10:46am Sun 16 Feb 14

Jan28th1984 says...

If the club is so keen to not take certain competitions seriously, why bother entering them?
The club can then decline to enter the Europa League (should we qualify) and also the League Cup and FA Cup. At least we the fans would know where the club stands and we won't be wasting our time and money travelling to watch games the team has no intention of winning.
If the club is so keen to not take certain competitions seriously, why bother entering them? The club can then decline to enter the Europa League (should we qualify) and also the League Cup and FA Cup. At least we the fans would know where the club stands and we won't be wasting our time and money travelling to watch games the team has no intention of winning. Jan28th1984

10:51am Sun 16 Feb 14

Folkestone Saint says...

How many fans will not go to a game against lower oppo's now because firstly you don't need to worry about loyalty points and secondly the feel good factor, this was a very poor performance from coaching staff and players, and laso revenue to boot. I do feel the ref had a poor game though and as sunderland were getting free kicks for falling down we stopped playing a few times expecting yet another free kick and lost the flow of the game due to these so called tac-tic's
How many fans will not go to a game against lower oppo's now because firstly you don't need to worry about loyalty points and secondly the feel good factor, this was a very poor performance from coaching staff and players, and laso revenue to boot. I do feel the ref had a poor game though and as sunderland were getting free kicks for falling down we stopped playing a few times expecting yet another free kick and lost the flow of the game due to these so called tac-tic's Folkestone Saint

10:53am Sun 16 Feb 14

Jesus_02 says...

mustard wrote:
i don't think selection was the problem today, the performance was. that team should have been strong enough to get at last a draw against a much changed sunderland side.
With Lovren still injured Poch is right to protect Fonte, J-Rod was more than due a rest and most of the other changes were 50/50 selections ie Chambers/Clyne and Davis/Spiderman and Wanyama/Cork,it's not like they put a reserve team out there.
I would have loved us to get to Wembley but am more than happy with our season to date and the amount of talented English younsters we are producing.
If Lambert hadn't of missed the open goal near the end we'd all be looking forward to a replay.
Finally with regards to respcting the competition, it's not just our club its most clubs and it's the fans too, just look at the attendances. Unfortunately because of the finances involved the Premier league IS far more important to the owners, the management and most fans.
I kind of agree with your comments about selections being 50/50. Unfortunatly they all went the weeker way.. there was too much change for there to be any continuity... why Guly why Kelvin?
[quote][p][bold]mustard[/bold] wrote: i don't think selection was the problem today, the performance was. that team should have been strong enough to get at last a draw against a much changed sunderland side. With Lovren still injured Poch is right to protect Fonte, J-Rod was more than due a rest and most of the other changes were 50/50 selections ie Chambers/Clyne and Davis/Spiderman and Wanyama/Cork,it's not like they put a reserve team out there. I would have loved us to get to Wembley but am more than happy with our season to date and the amount of talented English younsters we are producing. If Lambert hadn't of missed the open goal near the end we'd all be looking forward to a replay. Finally with regards to respcting the competition, it's not just our club its most clubs and it's the fans too, just look at the attendances. Unfortunately because of the finances involved the Premier league IS far more important to the owners, the management and most fans.[/p][/quote]I kind of agree with your comments about selections being 50/50. Unfortunatly they all went the weeker way.. there was too much change for there to be any continuity... why Guly why Kelvin? Jesus_02

10:55am Sun 16 Feb 14

Saint. says...

StElsass wrote:
Saint. wrote:
I as any other Saints fan is annoyed and sadden to go out, but shame on many of you, and slightly shortsighted too. You over look many things and many sound like those stupid commentators who think and want Saints to be a small club and had so much crap about what Saints should of done, and you come on here and regurgitate it!

Firstly respect to all those travelling fans for travelling all that way, for an early start and in those dangerous conditions! TOTAL RESPECT!

Points to think may be....

1 MP clearly loves his back room staff and they have brought this club up to play high pressured game, which is exciting to watching and out playing most teams we've played, even if we didn't collect all the points! On that I think MP shares everything with his team and brings them to the forefront for cup games! what's wrong with that?

2 I appreciate our standard of game is so high now, but do the moaning Saints fans really think we deserve to win every single game? Which team does? Even in one cup competitions which was slowly opening up for us to win!

3 simply the pitch was awful! The conditions were hideous to play in too!

4 It was only one blistering pot luck shot that caught the wind and that beat a second choice goalie, who was slightly out of positions in the first place!

5 Despite the changes the experience players did not have a great game either! Lambert, Lallana and Davis who have been brilliant this season were slightly off in this game. It does happen and nothing to do with the changes!

6 the changes were of good quality anyway, and if your honest should of beaten Monkey boy!

7 Monkey boy has a hold on Saints, I think when he was a Brighton he must of paid a visit to a travelling gypsy of something.

8 Whose to say that playing our strongest side we would of won? On the day we would of still most likely lost by one goal. as mention many players were not having their best game anyway!

9 would all you moaners would of been happy if we played our best team, and say spider broke down and lost for a month or more. We have to trust MP to get our best players through the whole season!

10 For all those stupid half empty cup supporters who also listen to all that crap on the TV from the commentators! NEWSFLASH! Southampton FC still very much to play for this season! Look at the league! We are best placed to hit higher places!! We have a good run of games coming, and the higher we go the more money this club gets!! We can still make Europe even if the pundits what all TV viewers to think this small coastal club is punching above its weight and all should think we will be lucky to finish 9th. Perfected statement ! Now with this cup exit I would expect MP to win as many games in hopefully better weather condition and throw Southampton FC to six or above. It's with in our hands and we are only a few points behind, and is the only course Saints must apply if our development to winning this league in sometime in the near future.

11 the higher we are the better the player we can attract in the summer!!

Come on don't listen to so called TV pundits who know nothing and easy to think us as a small club that just makes up the numbers!

We have the BEST manager! We have the best TEAM spirit! We have the best way of of PLAYING football! We have the BEST club!

Finish high in the league as possibly, and buy some top quality players in the summer. Southampton cup is half full!
OK, we stop listening to the "experts" on TV who know nothing and instead read the pearls of wisdom from someone we don't know on an internet forum. Thanks for the advise.
Regarding your point number 10, I agree that we have a good chance to qualify for Europe. Only WE DON'T WANT TO!! Our manager has said that much himself.
And if we have the best manager and team, don't you think they're wasted playing for top 6 and nothing else?
Point made! TV pundit would love Saints to be top? They never have an agenda! They never sit behind the so called big clubs as that so easy to do?! Come on man!

We don't want to? Do be daft! So what's the point? What's the point point now then? Shall we win some and lose some to make sure we stay 9th or 8th? Shall we stay a small club? Oh and if we got to the cup final, should we lose that? As winning silver wear gets you into Europe you fool!

MP actually said he preferred not to go to Europe, he would prefer Champions league!

Thank God you don't run the club, as we would never move forward, and archive higher and better things! Europe one way or the other would also attract better players! You can't hide from it if you want to move forward!!
[quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint.[/bold] wrote: I as any other Saints fan is annoyed and sadden to go out, but shame on many of you, and slightly shortsighted too. You over look many things and many sound like those stupid commentators who think and want Saints to be a small club and had so much crap about what Saints should of done, and you come on here and regurgitate it! Firstly respect to all those travelling fans for travelling all that way, for an early start and in those dangerous conditions! TOTAL RESPECT! Points to think may be.... 1 MP clearly loves his back room staff and they have brought this club up to play high pressured game, which is exciting to watching and out playing most teams we've played, even if we didn't collect all the points! On that I think MP shares everything with his team and brings them to the forefront for cup games! what's wrong with that? 2 I appreciate our standard of game is so high now, but do the moaning Saints fans really think we deserve to win every single game? Which team does? Even in one cup competitions which was slowly opening up for us to win! 3 simply the pitch was awful! The conditions were hideous to play in too! 4 It was only one blistering pot luck shot that caught the wind and that beat a second choice goalie, who was slightly out of positions in the first place! 5 Despite the changes the experience players did not have a great game either! Lambert, Lallana and Davis who have been brilliant this season were slightly off in this game. It does happen and nothing to do with the changes! 6 the changes were of good quality anyway, and if your honest should of beaten Monkey boy! 7 Monkey boy has a hold on Saints, I think when he was a Brighton he must of paid a visit to a travelling gypsy of something. 8 Whose to say that playing our strongest side we would of won? On the day we would of still most likely lost by one goal. as mention many players were not having their best game anyway! 9 would all you moaners would of been happy if we played our best team, and say spider broke down and lost for a month or more. We have to trust MP to get our best players through the whole season! 10 For all those stupid half empty cup supporters who also listen to all that crap on the TV from the commentators! NEWSFLASH! Southampton FC still very much to play for this season! Look at the league! We are best placed to hit higher places!! We have a good run of games coming, and the higher we go the more money this club gets!! We can still make Europe even if the pundits what all TV viewers to think this small coastal club is punching above its weight and all should think we will be lucky to finish 9th. Perfected statement ! Now with this cup exit I would expect MP to win as many games in hopefully better weather condition and throw Southampton FC to six or above. It's with in our hands and we are only a few points behind, and is the only course Saints must apply if our development to winning this league in sometime in the near future. 11 the higher we are the better the player we can attract in the summer!! Come on don't listen to so called TV pundits who know nothing and easy to think us as a small club that just makes up the numbers! We have the BEST manager! We have the best TEAM spirit! We have the best way of of PLAYING football! We have the BEST club! Finish high in the league as possibly, and buy some top quality players in the summer. Southampton cup is half full![/p][/quote]OK, we stop listening to the "experts" on TV who know nothing and instead read the pearls of wisdom from someone we don't know on an internet forum. Thanks for the advise. Regarding your point number 10, I agree that we have a good chance to qualify for Europe. Only WE DON'T WANT TO!! Our manager has said that much himself. And if we have the best manager and team, don't you think they're wasted playing for top 6 and nothing else?[/p][/quote]Point made! TV pundit would love Saints to be top? They never have an agenda! They never sit behind the so called big clubs as that so easy to do?! Come on man! We don't want to? Do be daft! So what's the point? What's the point point now then? Shall we win some and lose some to make sure we stay 9th or 8th? Shall we stay a small club? Oh and if we got to the cup final, should we lose that? As winning silver wear gets you into Europe you fool! MP actually said he preferred not to go to Europe, he would prefer Champions league! Thank God you don't run the club, as we would never move forward, and archive higher and better things! Europe one way or the other would also attract better players! You can't hide from it if you want to move forward!! Saint.

10:56am Sun 16 Feb 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Spot on, StElsass.

As for Saint's point 9: 'would all you moaners would of been happy if we played our best team, and say spider broke down and lost for a month or more. We have to trust MP to get our best players through the whole season!'

I thought the ONE thing we really had left to play for this season was a piece of very important silverware - NOT a rise of maybe 1 or 2 places in the League. So, on balance, I would have (not OF, by the way) preferred that he had been 'risked' yesterday than at Hull.
Spot on, StElsass. As for Saint's point 9: 'would all you moaners would of been happy if we played our best team, and say spider broke down and lost for a month or more. We have to trust MP to get our best players through the whole season!' I thought the ONE thing we really had left to play for this season was a piece of very important silverware - NOT a rise of maybe 1 or 2 places in the League. So, on balance, I would have (not OF, by the way) preferred that he had been 'risked' yesterday than at Hull. Strasbourg Saint

11:11am Sun 16 Feb 14

StElsass says...

Saint. wrote:
StElsass wrote:
Saint. wrote:
I as any other Saints fan is annoyed and sadden to go out, but shame on many of you, and slightly shortsighted too. You over look many things and many sound like those stupid commentators who think and want Saints to be a small club and had so much crap about what Saints should of done, and you come on here and regurgitate it!

Firstly respect to all those travelling fans for travelling all that way, for an early start and in those dangerous conditions! TOTAL RESPECT!

Points to think may be....

1 MP clearly loves his back room staff and they have brought this club up to play high pressured game, which is exciting to watching and out playing most teams we've played, even if we didn't collect all the points! On that I think MP shares everything with his team and brings them to the forefront for cup games! what's wrong with that?

2 I appreciate our standard of game is so high now, but do the moaning Saints fans really think we deserve to win every single game? Which team does? Even in one cup competitions which was slowly opening up for us to win!

3 simply the pitch was awful! The conditions were hideous to play in too!

4 It was only one blistering pot luck shot that caught the wind and that beat a second choice goalie, who was slightly out of positions in the first place!

5 Despite the changes the experience players did not have a great game either! Lambert, Lallana and Davis who have been brilliant this season were slightly off in this game. It does happen and nothing to do with the changes!

6 the changes were of good quality anyway, and if your honest should of beaten Monkey boy!

7 Monkey boy has a hold on Saints, I think when he was a Brighton he must of paid a visit to a travelling gypsy of something.

8 Whose to say that playing our strongest side we would of won? On the day we would of still most likely lost by one goal. as mention many players were not having their best game anyway!

9 would all you moaners would of been happy if we played our best team, and say spider broke down and lost for a month or more. We have to trust MP to get our best players through the whole season!

10 For all those stupid half empty cup supporters who also listen to all that crap on the TV from the commentators! NEWSFLASH! Southampton FC still very much to play for this season! Look at the league! We are best placed to hit higher places!! We have a good run of games coming, and the higher we go the more money this club gets!! We can still make Europe even if the pundits what all TV viewers to think this small coastal club is punching above its weight and all should think we will be lucky to finish 9th. Perfected statement ! Now with this cup exit I would expect MP to win as many games in hopefully better weather condition and throw Southampton FC to six or above. It's with in our hands and we are only a few points behind, and is the only course Saints must apply if our development to winning this league in sometime in the near future.

11 the higher we are the better the player we can attract in the summer!!

Come on don't listen to so called TV pundits who know nothing and easy to think us as a small club that just makes up the numbers!

We have the BEST manager! We have the best TEAM spirit! We have the best way of of PLAYING football! We have the BEST club!

Finish high in the league as possibly, and buy some top quality players in the summer. Southampton cup is half full!
OK, we stop listening to the "experts" on TV who know nothing and instead read the pearls of wisdom from someone we don't know on an internet forum. Thanks for the advise.
Regarding your point number 10, I agree that we have a good chance to qualify for Europe. Only WE DON'T WANT TO!! Our manager has said that much himself.
And if we have the best manager and team, don't you think they're wasted playing for top 6 and nothing else?
Point made! TV pundit would love Saints to be top? They never have an agenda! They never sit behind the so called big clubs as that so easy to do?! Come on man!

We don't want to? Do be daft! So what's the point? What's the point point now then? Shall we win some and lose some to make sure we stay 9th or 8th? Shall we stay a small club? Oh and if we got to the cup final, should we lose that? As winning silver wear gets you into Europe you fool!

MP actually said he preferred not to go to Europe, he would prefer Champions league!

Thank God you don't run the club, as we would never move forward, and archive higher and better things! Europe one way or the other would also attract better players! You can't hide from it if you want to move forward!!
Read my comment properly before answering and then I'll join the debate. In the meantime, I'll refrain.
[quote][p][bold]Saint.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint.[/bold] wrote: I as any other Saints fan is annoyed and sadden to go out, but shame on many of you, and slightly shortsighted too. You over look many things and many sound like those stupid commentators who think and want Saints to be a small club and had so much crap about what Saints should of done, and you come on here and regurgitate it! Firstly respect to all those travelling fans for travelling all that way, for an early start and in those dangerous conditions! TOTAL RESPECT! Points to think may be.... 1 MP clearly loves his back room staff and they have brought this club up to play high pressured game, which is exciting to watching and out playing most teams we've played, even if we didn't collect all the points! On that I think MP shares everything with his team and brings them to the forefront for cup games! what's wrong with that? 2 I appreciate our standard of game is so high now, but do the moaning Saints fans really think we deserve to win every single game? Which team does? Even in one cup competitions which was slowly opening up for us to win! 3 simply the pitch was awful! The conditions were hideous to play in too! 4 It was only one blistering pot luck shot that caught the wind and that beat a second choice goalie, who was slightly out of positions in the first place! 5 Despite the changes the experience players did not have a great game either! Lambert, Lallana and Davis who have been brilliant this season were slightly off in this game. It does happen and nothing to do with the changes! 6 the changes were of good quality anyway, and if your honest should of beaten Monkey boy! 7 Monkey boy has a hold on Saints, I think when he was a Brighton he must of paid a visit to a travelling gypsy of something. 8 Whose to say that playing our strongest side we would of won? On the day we would of still most likely lost by one goal. as mention many players were not having their best game anyway! 9 would all you moaners would of been happy if we played our best team, and say spider broke down and lost for a month or more. We have to trust MP to get our best players through the whole season! 10 For all those stupid half empty cup supporters who also listen to all that crap on the TV from the commentators! NEWSFLASH! Southampton FC still very much to play for this season! Look at the league! We are best placed to hit higher places!! We have a good run of games coming, and the higher we go the more money this club gets!! We can still make Europe even if the pundits what all TV viewers to think this small coastal club is punching above its weight and all should think we will be lucky to finish 9th. Perfected statement ! Now with this cup exit I would expect MP to win as many games in hopefully better weather condition and throw Southampton FC to six or above. It's with in our hands and we are only a few points behind, and is the only course Saints must apply if our development to winning this league in sometime in the near future. 11 the higher we are the better the player we can attract in the summer!! Come on don't listen to so called TV pundits who know nothing and easy to think us as a small club that just makes up the numbers! We have the BEST manager! We have the best TEAM spirit! We have the best way of of PLAYING football! We have the BEST club! Finish high in the league as possibly, and buy some top quality players in the summer. Southampton cup is half full![/p][/quote]OK, we stop listening to the "experts" on TV who know nothing and instead read the pearls of wisdom from someone we don't know on an internet forum. Thanks for the advise. Regarding your point number 10, I agree that we have a good chance to qualify for Europe. Only WE DON'T WANT TO!! Our manager has said that much himself. And if we have the best manager and team, don't you think they're wasted playing for top 6 and nothing else?[/p][/quote]Point made! TV pundit would love Saints to be top? They never have an agenda! They never sit behind the so called big clubs as that so easy to do?! Come on man! We don't want to? Do be daft! So what's the point? What's the point point now then? Shall we win some and lose some to make sure we stay 9th or 8th? Shall we stay a small club? Oh and if we got to the cup final, should we lose that? As winning silver wear gets you into Europe you fool! MP actually said he preferred not to go to Europe, he would prefer Champions league! Thank God you don't run the club, as we would never move forward, and archive higher and better things! Europe one way or the other would also attract better players! You can't hide from it if you want to move forward!![/p][/quote]Read my comment properly before answering and then I'll join the debate. In the meantime, I'll refrain. StElsass

11:17am Sun 16 Feb 14

Saint. says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Spot on, StElsass.

As for Saint's point 9: 'would all you moaners would of been happy if we played our best team, and say spider broke down and lost for a month or more. We have to trust MP to get our best players through the whole season!'

I thought the ONE thing we really had left to play for this season was a piece of very important silverware - NOT a rise of maybe 1 or 2 places in the League. So, on balance, I would have (not OF, by the way) preferred that he had been 'risked' yesterday than at Hull.
Fair point.

I just gave another! I have stated I would of loved to win the cup for sure! But the team put out has won other matches and should of beaten Sunderland! But as also mention other regulars had an off day! Lastly even our best side would of struggled on that pitch and condition!

I suppose it depends if you think the league is over, and I don't and I still stand by MP is looking at the bigger picture!
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Spot on, StElsass. As for Saint's point 9: 'would all you moaners would of been happy if we played our best team, and say spider broke down and lost for a month or more. We have to trust MP to get our best players through the whole season!' I thought the ONE thing we really had left to play for this season was a piece of very important silverware - NOT a rise of maybe 1 or 2 places in the League. So, on balance, I would have (not OF, by the way) preferred that he had been 'risked' yesterday than at Hull.[/p][/quote]Fair point. I just gave another! I have stated I would of loved to win the cup for sure! But the team put out has won other matches and should of beaten Sunderland! But as also mention other regulars had an off day! Lastly even our best side would of struggled on that pitch and condition! I suppose it depends if you think the league is over, and I don't and I still stand by MP is looking at the bigger picture! Saint.

11:17am Sun 16 Feb 14

Saint. says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Spot on, StElsass.

As for Saint's point 9: 'would all you moaners would of been happy if we played our best team, and say spider broke down and lost for a month or more. We have to trust MP to get our best players through the whole season!'

I thought the ONE thing we really had left to play for this season was a piece of very important silverware - NOT a rise of maybe 1 or 2 places in the League. So, on balance, I would have (not OF, by the way) preferred that he had been 'risked' yesterday than at Hull.
Fair point.

I just gave another! I have stated I would of loved to win the cup for sure! But the team put out has won other matches and should of beaten Sunderland! But as also mention other regulars had an off day! Lastly even our best side would of struggled on that pitch and condition!

I suppose it depends if you think the league is over, and I don't and I still stand by MP is looking at the bigger picture!
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Spot on, StElsass. As for Saint's point 9: 'would all you moaners would of been happy if we played our best team, and say spider broke down and lost for a month or more. We have to trust MP to get our best players through the whole season!' I thought the ONE thing we really had left to play for this season was a piece of very important silverware - NOT a rise of maybe 1 or 2 places in the League. So, on balance, I would have (not OF, by the way) preferred that he had been 'risked' yesterday than at Hull.[/p][/quote]Fair point. I just gave another! I have stated I would of loved to win the cup for sure! But the team put out has won other matches and should of beaten Sunderland! But as also mention other regulars had an off day! Lastly even our best side would of struggled on that pitch and condition! I suppose it depends if you think the league is over, and I don't and I still stand by MP is looking at the bigger picture! Saint.

11:17am Sun 16 Feb 14

Saintsincethe60s says...

I wouldn't go as far as some on here have and slag off the management team, as lets be honest they have done a fabulous job since they have been here, what I will criticize them for however is for making the same mistake twice against the same team in 2 different competitions and not having the balls to admit that you have made a mistake.

Whilst it is well documented that MoPo has a dislike for the europa league as do many fans, surely the sensible course would be to have gone for the FA cup and if we won it, then is the time to play the "muppets" next year in that competition to ensure an early exit so that we are not hampered when we go for the proper prize next season - just a thought
I wouldn't go as far as some on here have and slag off the management team, as lets be honest they have done a fabulous job since they have been here, what I will criticize them for however is for making the same mistake twice against the same team in 2 different competitions and not having the balls to admit that you have made a mistake. Whilst it is well documented that MoPo has a dislike for the europa league as do many fans, surely the sensible course would be to have gone for the FA cup and if we won it, then is the time to play the "muppets" next year in that competition to ensure an early exit so that we are not hampered when we go for the proper prize next season - just a thought Saintsincethe60s

11:18am Sun 16 Feb 14

Dubai-saints89 says...

from the very start i thought it was cheeky that they had put this match as an early kick off. i feel sorry for the fans who traveled all they way there to witness crap football in crap weather. its 3 times now we've had to travel up there and twice were given early K.O. nerveless, that shouldn't be an excuse but just saying.

im not going to lie. i was one of those moaners because i couldn't believe how badly we played. we were outplayed by a Sunderland B team who are at the bottom of the league, to top it off its a team managed by poyet who i hate!!. it was hard to watch..
however, if MP has a plan B then the Sunderland result shouldn't matter. if we rise higher in the league and end up finishing 6th..maybe just maybe 5th then id be pleased and memories of our horrendous exit to Sunderland would vanish..
from the very start i thought it was cheeky that they had put this match as an early kick off. i feel sorry for the fans who traveled all they way there to witness crap football in crap weather. its 3 times now we've had to travel up there and twice were given early K.O. nerveless, that shouldn't be an excuse but just saying. im not going to lie. i was one of those moaners because i couldn't believe how badly we played. we were outplayed by a Sunderland B team who are at the bottom of the league, to top it off its a team managed by poyet who i hate!!. it was hard to watch.. however, if MP has a plan B then the Sunderland result shouldn't matter. if we rise higher in the league and end up finishing 6th..maybe just maybe 5th then id be pleased and memories of our horrendous exit to Sunderland would vanish.. Dubai-saints89

11:23am Sun 16 Feb 14

BracknellSaint says...

Ok, a disappointing performance and result. We had an off day, and it's cost us a chance to win a cup.
Any fan would like to win a trophy, obviously.
That said, as mentioned above the highest achievement, outside of winning the league or getting Champions League qualification, is to get into, and stay in the Premier. Getting as high up that league as possible also takes a hell of an effort, over 38 games, home and away, through injuries, suspensions, dodgy ref decisions etc...So, as disappointed as I am, the win against Hull was massive, and the next game against the awful, dour, hoofing, fouling gang of Fat Sam's dinosaurs is much bigger for me. Can't stand the man, so REALLY want to put them to the sword. Glad the off day was in this game, so we can get back to winning ways in the league.
This has been possibly the best football I've seen us play in my 38 years, and really looking forward to seeing if we really can get 7th, and then hopefully keep the young lads in the summer, and adding a couple more stars to take us to the next level, to give us an even more amazing season next year!
Ok, a disappointing performance and result. We had an off day, and it's cost us a chance to win a cup. Any fan would like to win a trophy, obviously. That said, as mentioned above the highest achievement, outside of winning the league or getting Champions League qualification, is to get into, and stay in the Premier. Getting as high up that league as possible also takes a hell of an effort, over 38 games, home and away, through injuries, suspensions, dodgy ref decisions etc...So, as disappointed as I am, the win against Hull was massive, and the next game against the awful, dour, hoofing, fouling gang of Fat Sam's dinosaurs is much bigger for me. Can't stand the man, so REALLY want to put them to the sword. Glad the off day was in this game, so we can get back to winning ways in the league. This has been possibly the best football I've seen us play in my 38 years, and really looking forward to seeing if we really can get 7th, and then hopefully keep the young lads in the summer, and adding a couple more stars to take us to the next level, to give us an even more amazing season next year! BracknellSaint

11:23am Sun 16 Feb 14

lowe esteem says...

SWAYTHLING SAINT wrote:
Well all the Guly fans got their wish and the maestro didn't deliver, as per usual. Shame we still don't have Danny Fox, he would have looked top draw today.
Don't blame Guly, blame me...
Didn't get my lucky Echo 'til after the game, didn't go to the game, but wore a black shirt whilst listening and didn't pick Bart.
Jesus? Not disappointed? Will give you the benefit there-and am starting to understand why some people employ translators.
We looked like the team with our minds on relegation and an 'alternative' Wembley appearance. We must reconsider our 'second strip' as well as our second team when playing the 'Black Cats' -they seriously raise their game when confronted with black and white shirts, with the added bonus of a vilified ex-player to take potshots at (from stand and attack). I could not believe the starting line up, and I stated at the time that we had at least two changes too many, and the gift of hindsight reinforces my view.
Good Luck to the Black Cats who have certainly learnt to play like a Cup team.
Kick in the teeth for the Mush Army that went to Wearside. It really felt like anyone playing out of their skin was going against team orders. Well all the soulless 'mid-table obscurity' apologists can sleep tight in the knowledge that we got to 39 points, produced this gutless display and can now concentrate on consolidating 9th place, whilst waiting for the next batch of home-produced youth to carry us over the line.
Not usually one to really complain, but I love the Saints and the FA Cup and usually travelling to northern outposts. At the moment still can't put this down to a bad day at the office, more like wilful skiving, I'm not happy and sounding off, but unlike others I'm not going to single out individuals for an unbelievably poor club performance.
[quote][p][bold]SWAYTHLING SAINT[/bold] wrote: Well all the Guly fans got their wish and the maestro didn't deliver, as per usual. Shame we still don't have Danny Fox, he would have looked top draw today.[/p][/quote]Don't blame Guly, blame me... Didn't get my lucky Echo 'til after the game, didn't go to the game, but wore a black shirt whilst listening and didn't pick Bart. Jesus? Not disappointed? Will give you the benefit there-and am starting to understand why some people employ translators. We looked like the team with our minds on relegation and an 'alternative' Wembley appearance. We must reconsider our 'second strip' as well as our second team when playing the 'Black Cats' -they seriously raise their game when confronted with black and white shirts, with the added bonus of a vilified ex-player to take potshots at (from stand and attack). I could not believe the starting line up, and I stated at the time that we had at least two changes too many, and the gift of hindsight reinforces my view. Good Luck to the Black Cats who have certainly learnt to play like a Cup team. Kick in the teeth for the Mush Army that went to Wearside. It really felt like anyone playing out of their skin was going against team orders. Well all the soulless 'mid-table obscurity' apologists can sleep tight in the knowledge that we got to 39 points, produced this gutless display and can now concentrate on consolidating 9th place, whilst waiting for the next batch of home-produced youth to carry us over the line. Not usually one to really complain, but I love the Saints and the FA Cup and usually travelling to northern outposts. At the moment still can't put this down to a bad day at the office, more like wilful skiving, I'm not happy and sounding off, but unlike others I'm not going to single out individuals for an unbelievably poor club performance. lowe esteem

11:24am Sun 16 Feb 14

Saint. says...

StElsass wrote:
Saint. wrote:
StElsass wrote:
Saint. wrote:
I as any other Saints fan is annoyed and sadden to go out, but shame on many of you, and slightly shortsighted too. You over look many things and many sound like those stupid commentators who think and want Saints to be a small club and had so much crap about what Saints should of done, and you come on here and regurgitate it!

Firstly respect to all those travelling fans for travelling all that way, for an early start and in those dangerous conditions! TOTAL RESPECT!

Points to think may be....

1 MP clearly loves his back room staff and they have brought this club up to play high pressured game, which is exciting to watching and out playing most teams we've played, even if we didn't collect all the points! On that I think MP shares everything with his team and brings them to the forefront for cup games! what's wrong with that?

2 I appreciate our standard of game is so high now, but do the moaning Saints fans really think we deserve to win every single game? Which team does? Even in one cup competitions which was slowly opening up for us to win!

3 simply the pitch was awful! The conditions were hideous to play in too!

4 It was only one blistering pot luck shot that caught the wind and that beat a second choice goalie, who was slightly out of positions in the first place!

5 Despite the changes the experience players did not have a great game either! Lambert, Lallana and Davis who have been brilliant this season were slightly off in this game. It does happen and nothing to do with the changes!

6 the changes were of good quality anyway, and if your honest should of beaten Monkey boy!

7 Monkey boy has a hold on Saints, I think when he was a Brighton he must of paid a visit to a travelling gypsy of something.

8 Whose to say that playing our strongest side we would of won? On the day we would of still most likely lost by one goal. as mention many players were not having their best game anyway!

9 would all you moaners would of been happy if we played our best team, and say spider broke down and lost for a month or more. We have to trust MP to get our best players through the whole season!

10 For all those stupid half empty cup supporters who also listen to all that crap on the TV from the commentators! NEWSFLASH! Southampton FC still very much to play for this season! Look at the league! We are best placed to hit higher places!! We have a good run of games coming, and the higher we go the more money this club gets!! We can still make Europe even if the pundits what all TV viewers to think this small coastal club is punching above its weight and all should think we will be lucky to finish 9th. Perfected statement ! Now with this cup exit I would expect MP to win as many games in hopefully better weather condition and throw Southampton FC to six or above. It's with in our hands and we are only a few points behind, and is the only course Saints must apply if our development to winning this league in sometime in the near future.

11 the higher we are the better the player we can attract in the summer!!

Come on don't listen to so called TV pundits who know nothing and easy to think us as a small club that just makes up the numbers!

We have the BEST manager! We have the best TEAM spirit! We have the best way of of PLAYING football! We have the BEST club!

Finish high in the league as possibly, and buy some top quality players in the summer. Southampton cup is half full!
OK, we stop listening to the "experts" on TV who know nothing and instead read the pearls of wisdom from someone we don't know on an internet forum. Thanks for the advise.
Regarding your point number 10, I agree that we have a good chance to qualify for Europe. Only WE DON'T WANT TO!! Our manager has said that much himself.
And if we have the best manager and team, don't you think they're wasted playing for top 6 and nothing else?
Point made! TV pundit would love Saints to be top? They never have an agenda! They never sit behind the so called big clubs as that so easy to do?! Come on man!

We don't want to? Do be daft! So what's the point? What's the point point now then? Shall we win some and lose some to make sure we stay 9th or 8th? Shall we stay a small club? Oh and if we got to the cup final, should we lose that? As winning silver wear gets you into Europe you fool!

MP actually said he preferred not to go to Europe, he would prefer Champions league!

Thank God you don't run the club, as we would never move forward, and archive higher and better things! Europe one way or the other would also attract better players! You can't hide from it if you want to move forward!!
Read my comment properly before answering and then I'll join the debate. In the meantime, I'll refrain.
I did, and actually I thought the same thing too!

Who says we don't want Europe?

As for pundits we can name many! But here's a few. Have you ever herd Warnock say a nice thing about Saints? Ex players are biases to Saints at ever opportunity they can....Claridge?

How many pundits come on TV and constantly talk more about Shaw moving on to further his career?! It's sickening and stupid and not true!

Not in a debate with you, but our club is on the wave up and as I said our cup is half full and not half empty.
[quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint.[/bold] wrote: I as any other Saints fan is annoyed and sadden to go out, but shame on many of you, and slightly shortsighted too. You over look many things and many sound like those stupid commentators who think and want Saints to be a small club and had so much crap about what Saints should of done, and you come on here and regurgitate it! Firstly respect to all those travelling fans for travelling all that way, for an early start and in those dangerous conditions! TOTAL RESPECT! Points to think may be.... 1 MP clearly loves his back room staff and they have brought this club up to play high pressured game, which is exciting to watching and out playing most teams we've played, even if we didn't collect all the points! On that I think MP shares everything with his team and brings them to the forefront for cup games! what's wrong with that? 2 I appreciate our standard of game is so high now, but do the moaning Saints fans really think we deserve to win every single game? Which team does? Even in one cup competitions which was slowly opening up for us to win! 3 simply the pitch was awful! The conditions were hideous to play in too! 4 It was only one blistering pot luck shot that caught the wind and that beat a second choice goalie, who was slightly out of positions in the first place! 5 Despite the changes the experience players did not have a great game either! Lambert, Lallana and Davis who have been brilliant this season were slightly off in this game. It does happen and nothing to do with the changes! 6 the changes were of good quality anyway, and if your honest should of beaten Monkey boy! 7 Monkey boy has a hold on Saints, I think when he was a Brighton he must of paid a visit to a travelling gypsy of something. 8 Whose to say that playing our strongest side we would of won? On the day we would of still most likely lost by one goal. as mention many players were not having their best game anyway! 9 would all you moaners would of been happy if we played our best team, and say spider broke down and lost for a month or more. We have to trust MP to get our best players through the whole season! 10 For all those stupid half empty cup supporters who also listen to all that crap on the TV from the commentators! NEWSFLASH! Southampton FC still very much to play for this season! Look at the league! We are best placed to hit higher places!! We have a good run of games coming, and the higher we go the more money this club gets!! We can still make Europe even if the pundits what all TV viewers to think this small coastal club is punching above its weight and all should think we will be lucky to finish 9th. Perfected statement ! Now with this cup exit I would expect MP to win as many games in hopefully better weather condition and throw Southampton FC to six or above. It's with in our hands and we are only a few points behind, and is the only course Saints must apply if our development to winning this league in sometime in the near future. 11 the higher we are the better the player we can attract in the summer!! Come on don't listen to so called TV pundits who know nothing and easy to think us as a small club that just makes up the numbers! We have the BEST manager! We have the best TEAM spirit! We have the best way of of PLAYING football! We have the BEST club! Finish high in the league as possibly, and buy some top quality players in the summer. Southampton cup is half full![/p][/quote]OK, we stop listening to the "experts" on TV who know nothing and instead read the pearls of wisdom from someone we don't know on an internet forum. Thanks for the advise. Regarding your point number 10, I agree that we have a good chance to qualify for Europe. Only WE DON'T WANT TO!! Our manager has said that much himself. And if we have the best manager and team, don't you think they're wasted playing for top 6 and nothing else?[/p][/quote]Point made! TV pundit would love Saints to be top? They never have an agenda! They never sit behind the so called big clubs as that so easy to do?! Come on man! We don't want to? Do be daft! So what's the point? What's the point point now then? Shall we win some and lose some to make sure we stay 9th or 8th? Shall we stay a small club? Oh and if we got to the cup final, should we lose that? As winning silver wear gets you into Europe you fool! MP actually said he preferred not to go to Europe, he would prefer Champions league! Thank God you don't run the club, as we would never move forward, and archive higher and better things! Europe one way or the other would also attract better players! You can't hide from it if you want to move forward!![/p][/quote]Read my comment properly before answering and then I'll join the debate. In the meantime, I'll refrain.[/p][/quote]I did, and actually I thought the same thing too! Who says we don't want Europe? As for pundits we can name many! But here's a few. Have you ever herd Warnock say a nice thing about Saints? Ex players are biases to Saints at ever opportunity they can....Claridge? How many pundits come on TV and constantly talk more about Shaw moving on to further his career?! It's sickening and stupid and not true! Not in a debate with you, but our club is on the wave up and as I said our cup is half full and not half empty. Saint.

11:29am Sun 16 Feb 14

Confucious says...

I was pretty annoyed and very disappointed myself yesterday, but the fact is the so-called 'magic' of FA Cup has faded enormously over the years. For both the older generation and the keenest of fans of all ages, of course it still retains its' attraction (as is evident on here). But the fact is that St Marys has been half empty for the home ties this season and yesterday the stadium at Sunderland wasworse - two thirds empty.

The FA Cup once had a huge global audience too, but that's no longer the case. The audience everywhere is focussed on the Premier League and the Champions League - so that's where the focus and the money is.

It's worth noting too that two places in the Prem League carries a much bigger financial reward than appearing in an FA Cup final.

Whilst results like yesterday are a real downer for many of us we need to get things in perspective and move on. Reminding ourselves of our healthy league position; the truly grim battle for survival below us which we now have the luxury of being interested 'observers' - plus the fact that we were broke and in Div 1 in little more than the blink of an eye ago.

We are of course sore right now. But we will be behind the team and MoPo and Katherina as usual after the bruises go down this week.

On very many days in the past I've sighed over Saints and thought "Oh well, there'll be a better day." And you know, despite yesterday, in almost every respect this is that better day I dreamed of.

Let's cheer up guys!
I was pretty annoyed and very disappointed myself yesterday, but the fact is the so-called 'magic' of FA Cup has faded enormously over the years. For both the older generation and the keenest of fans of all ages, of course it still retains its' attraction (as is evident on here). But the fact is that St Marys has been half empty for the home ties this season and yesterday the stadium at Sunderland wasworse - two thirds empty. The FA Cup once had a huge global audience too, but that's no longer the case. The audience everywhere is focussed on the Premier League and the Champions League - so that's where the focus and the money is. It's worth noting too that two places in the Prem League carries a much bigger financial reward than appearing in an FA Cup final. Whilst results like yesterday are a real downer for many of us we need to get things in perspective and move on. Reminding ourselves of our healthy league position; the truly grim battle for survival below us which we now have the luxury of being interested 'observers' - plus the fact that we were broke and in Div 1 in little more than the blink of an eye ago. We are of course sore right now. But we will be behind the team and MoPo and Katherina as usual after the bruises go down this week. On very many days in the past I've sighed over Saints and thought "Oh well, there'll be a better day." And you know, despite yesterday, in almost every respect this is that better day I dreamed of. Let's cheer up guys! Confucious

11:30am Sun 16 Feb 14

dadofmy3sons says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
This thread is noticeably low on comments from people who were actually there. May I be the first? Cheers.

I'm not a rich man but I drove a long way to be there today because they're my boys. Was I disappointed with the result? Yes. Was I disappointed with the team? No, because ordinarily they would have been good enough. Do I want my money back? No, because I'm an adult who understands this kind of thing happens.

Truth is, the pitch and conditions were so terrible that whoever we picked it was always going to be like watching pub football. Did the regular a-teamers make an impression when they came on? No, because they were playing on a pitch made of solid sh1te. This is why upsets happen in cup football. Sadly (or not, depending on how you look at it) the Southampton Way is to pass the ball and that was just impossible today.

If you're looking for a silver lining it's that Inglorious Basterds is on in a minute so we can all watch that instead of ITV's appalling 'highlights' package. Seriously, watch it and forget about football for a bit. It's genius.
Thanks.
Bit surprised that no one else has re-quoted the opinions of some one who was there and does actually support the team.
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: This thread is noticeably low on comments from people who were actually there. May I be the first? Cheers. I'm not a rich man but I drove a long way to be there today because they're my boys. Was I disappointed with the result? Yes. Was I disappointed with the team? No, because ordinarily they would have been good enough. Do I want my money back? No, because I'm an adult who understands this kind of thing happens. Truth is, the pitch and conditions were so terrible that whoever we picked it was always going to be like watching pub football. Did the regular a-teamers make an impression when they came on? No, because they were playing on a pitch made of solid sh1te. This is why upsets happen in cup football. Sadly (or not, depending on how you look at it) the Southampton Way is to pass the ball and that was just impossible today. If you're looking for a silver lining it's that Inglorious Basterds is on in a minute so we can all watch that instead of ITV's appalling 'highlights' package. Seriously, watch it and forget about football for a bit. It's genius.[/p][/quote]Thanks. Bit surprised that no one else has re-quoted the opinions of some one who was there and does actually support the team. dadofmy3sons

11:30am Sun 16 Feb 14

Jan28th1984 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Spot on, StElsass.

As for Saint's point 9: 'would all you moaners would of been happy if we played our best team, and say spider broke down and lost for a month or more. We have to trust MP to get our best players through the whole season!'

I thought the ONE thing we really had left to play for this season was a piece of very important silverware - NOT a rise of maybe 1 or 2 places in the League. So, on balance, I would have (not OF, by the way) preferred that he had been 'risked' yesterday than at Hull.
Yes - you can't not play a player because of what might happen. If every club did this no player would ever be played!
I am just mad because I bought into the hype and believed all the rubbish the players were spouting on about the Cup being important to them.
Our League Cup exit by Leeds was bad enough but at least the team that was put out tried their best. Yesterday the team just jogged about until the final 15 mins, it was a disgrace.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Spot on, StElsass. As for Saint's point 9: 'would all you moaners would of been happy if we played our best team, and say spider broke down and lost for a month or more. We have to trust MP to get our best players through the whole season!' I thought the ONE thing we really had left to play for this season was a piece of very important silverware - NOT a rise of maybe 1 or 2 places in the League. So, on balance, I would have (not OF, by the way) preferred that he had been 'risked' yesterday than at Hull.[/p][/quote]Yes - you can't not play a player because of what might happen. If every club did this no player would ever be played! I am just mad because I bought into the hype and believed all the rubbish the players were spouting on about the Cup being important to them. Our League Cup exit by Leeds was bad enough but at least the team that was put out tried their best. Yesterday the team just jogged about until the final 15 mins, it was a disgrace. Jan28th1984

11:38am Sun 16 Feb 14

swesaint says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
swesaint wrote:
Norwegian Saint wrote:
is Jesus the cup manager? He comes out to do the interviews, so is it him that picks the cup teams? If so.... FU*KING pack your bags and FU'K off after that interview! Disgraceful answers! Get your wallet out and pay the fans!
Yes... I'm still angry, I feel sick about that selection and result but fuming with his blazay interview.
Great attitude towards our management, disgrace to call yourself a supporter.
Swesaint, I am as proud a supporter as you could ever dream of. Never question my loyalty to the Saints. The interview by Jesus was cringeworthy and a disgrace to come out and say the guys aren't disappointed! +19 votes (so far) shows others want to know what role this guy does and that yesterday he was an embarrassment to us supporters. If you read other posts I am calling MoPo a world class manager but his staff member was a Fuc'king idiot for the comments he made and yes, if he decides the team, if he decides to come out and talk like Saints didn't care then he can go. I nearly flew over for the match and although it was a poor performance from the team I was (and still am) fuming with his comments!
I guess you might be a little sour about us Norwegians beating the Swedes too? But never ever question my support of the Saints!
As long as you put out comments of that quality you will be questioned. So you almost made it, I was actually there, not that it matters but you brought it up. I thought we spoke about fotball here, and I guess your inferiority complex needs you to stray into other sport.
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swesaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: is Jesus the cup manager? He comes out to do the interviews, so is it him that picks the cup teams? If so.... FU*KING pack your bags and FU'K off after that interview! Disgraceful answers! Get your wallet out and pay the fans! Yes... I'm still angry, I feel sick about that selection and result but fuming with his blazay interview.[/p][/quote]Great attitude towards our management, disgrace to call yourself a supporter.[/p][/quote]Swesaint, I am as proud a supporter as you could ever dream of. Never question my loyalty to the Saints. The interview by Jesus was cringeworthy and a disgrace to come out and say the guys aren't disappointed! +19 votes (so far) shows others want to know what role this guy does and that yesterday he was an embarrassment to us supporters. If you read other posts I am calling MoPo a world class manager but his staff member was a Fuc'king idiot for the comments he made and yes, if he decides the team, if he decides to come out and talk like Saints didn't care then he can go. I nearly flew over for the match and although it was a poor performance from the team I was (and still am) fuming with his comments! I guess you might be a little sour about us Norwegians beating the Swedes too? But never ever question my support of the Saints![/p][/quote]As long as you put out comments of that quality you will be questioned. So you almost made it, I was actually there, not that it matters but you brought it up. I thought we spoke about fotball here, and I guess your inferiority complex needs you to stray into other sport. swesaint

11:59am Sun 16 Feb 14

Jan28th1984 says...

Well it's done and gone now - put it down as a lesson learned - (no more Cup games for me.)

Onwards to West Ham on Saturday (I am assuming the club still wants to succeed in the League............)
Well it's done and gone now - put it down as a lesson learned - (no more Cup games for me.) Onwards to West Ham on Saturday (I am assuming the club still wants to succeed in the League............) Jan28th1984

12:00pm Sun 16 Feb 14

el caballo santos101 says...

costa gaz wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Does anyone else find it bizarre that the assistant manager takes charge for cup games....
Just can't get my head around that one.
As soon as the team was announced I got a few €'s on a home win, easiest money I'll ever make... we lost before a ball was kicked.
Before today I was thinking that we could.possibly finish above Man Utd in the league, not really sure that the club has any intention to attempt this now.

One positive to take from today is that Osprey does not comment on here anymore.
well that's the right attitude, defeatist from the start.
I don't know any saints fan who would bet real money on the team losing! it wasn't the easiest money you have ever made though was it, if SRL, a player that no doubt you would have wanted on the team sheet, had scored that chance then you would have lost your money. well at least you've made a few quid out of picking your team to lose!
why you think that because of a very poor cup performance that the club no longer wants to push as high up the league as they can is beyond me. I suppose you will be trying to make a bit more money out of wanting saints to lose?
nice to see that your delighted that osprey has decided that he no longer wants to post any longer and that you take that as a positive from todays defeat (I really don't get the connection). again what a great supporter you must be, glad we lost so that a person you have never met no longer joins in on these forums, probably because he has different opinions to you. osprey is a harmless old, sorry osprey, geezer who uses these forums to show his support for the whole team and club and as a way of contacting other fans.
don't stop posting osprey, I may not always like everything you post, but you are often amusing and that's fine by me. anyway if posters like you, who are here regardless of the result disappeared, who would be here when we win? most of the moaners never turn up unless we lose.
as bad as we were, and we were bad, I still cant get my head around a saints fan betting on us to lose. must have been delighted when SRL put the ball over. well I suppose it must be a nice feeling knowing you've got a bit more money in your pocket!
I've had enough lectures questioning mine and many other fans about their level of loyalty to The Saints from Osprey to last me a lifetime, don't really need another from you thank you.
You see 101. i am a realist, I'd already picked up on the fact that MP did not want to take part in the Europa league and therefore would not make any real attempt to win this game.
I am a believer that you have to do your best in everything you attempt, with today' s team selection our management failed us, their nonchalant approach to the game rubbed off on the players I'm afraid and the result was inevitable.
Only in my humble opinion of course.
firstly costa I never questioned yours or any others `loyalty` what I said was that I don't know any saints fan that would bet real money on his own team losing, and I stand by that! you see I don't know you.
so you see the selected team and instantly think that that team is not good enough to beat any blunderland team? `I am a realist`? always a strange comment from anyone, so do you think that fans like me who thought that the team should have been able to beat blunderland are dreamers? let me remind you that the team selected had mainly first team starters, some coming back from injury and who need game time.
its ok to say that the management failed us with the team selection but you don't mention which players you would have dropped or picked.
as for the result being `inevitable` really? was it? so one long range great but a bit lucky shot against jwp`s chance lalla`s chance, or SRL`s chance? no we had enough chances to win and they went to our `first teamers` who you would have picked. simple thing is we played badly, really badly it happens.
I cant understand why anyone is saying that MP `threw` yesterdays game because he didn't want to win the cup and so get into Europe. people seem to forget the burnley game, that would have been the perfect game if MP really wanted to get knocked out of the cup.
so come on costa, what about yesterdays team selection made you want to put money on your own team losing? you cant have fonte starting as his leg was badly cut up during the hull game, he would have come on if really needed but why risk injuring him further?
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Does anyone else find it bizarre that the assistant manager takes charge for cup games.... Just can't get my head around that one. As soon as the team was announced I got a few €'s on a home win, easiest money I'll ever make... we lost before a ball was kicked. Before today I was thinking that we could.possibly finish above Man Utd in the league, not really sure that the club has any intention to attempt this now. One positive to take from today is that Osprey does not comment on here anymore.[/p][/quote]well that's the right attitude, defeatist from the start. I don't know any saints fan who would bet real money on the team losing! it wasn't the easiest money you have ever made though was it, if SRL, a player that no doubt you would have wanted on the team sheet, had scored that chance then you would have lost your money. well at least you've made a few quid out of picking your team to lose! why you think that because of a very poor cup performance that the club no longer wants to push as high up the league as they can is beyond me. I suppose you will be trying to make a bit more money out of wanting saints to lose? nice to see that your delighted that osprey has decided that he no longer wants to post any longer and that you take that as a positive from todays defeat (I really don't get the connection). again what a great supporter you must be, glad we lost so that a person you have never met no longer joins in on these forums, probably because he has different opinions to you. osprey is a harmless old, sorry osprey, geezer who uses these forums to show his support for the whole team and club and as a way of contacting other fans. don't stop posting osprey, I may not always like everything you post, but you are often amusing and that's fine by me. anyway if posters like you, who are here regardless of the result disappeared, who would be here when we win? most of the moaners never turn up unless we lose. as bad as we were, and we were bad, I still cant get my head around a saints fan betting on us to lose. must have been delighted when SRL put the ball over. well I suppose it must be a nice feeling knowing you've got a bit more money in your pocket![/p][/quote]I've had enough lectures questioning mine and many other fans about their level of loyalty to The Saints from Osprey to last me a lifetime, don't really need another from you thank you. You see 101. i am a realist, I'd already picked up on the fact that MP did not want to take part in the Europa league and therefore would not make any real attempt to win this game. I am a believer that you have to do your best in everything you attempt, with today' s team selection our management failed us, their nonchalant approach to the game rubbed off on the players I'm afraid and the result was inevitable. Only in my humble opinion of course.[/p][/quote]firstly costa I never questioned yours or any others `loyalty` what I said was that I don't know any saints fan that would bet real money on his own team losing, and I stand by that! you see I don't know you. so you see the selected team and instantly think that that team is not good enough to beat any blunderland team? `I am a realist`? always a strange comment from anyone, so do you think that fans like me who thought that the team should have been able to beat blunderland are dreamers? let me remind you that the team selected had mainly first team starters, some coming back from injury and who need game time. its ok to say that the management failed us with the team selection but you don't mention which players you would have dropped or picked. as for the result being `inevitable` really? was it? so one long range great but a bit lucky shot against jwp`s chance lalla`s chance, or SRL`s chance? no we had enough chances to win and they went to our `first teamers` who you would have picked. simple thing is we played badly, really badly it happens. I cant understand why anyone is saying that MP `threw` yesterdays game because he didn't want to win the cup and so get into Europe. people seem to forget the burnley game, that would have been the perfect game if MP really wanted to get knocked out of the cup. so come on costa, what about yesterdays team selection made you want to put money on your own team losing? you cant have fonte starting as his leg was badly cut up during the hull game, he would have come on if really needed but why risk injuring him further? el caballo santos101

12:11pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Norwegian Saint says...

swesaint wrote:
Norwegian Saint wrote:
swesaint wrote:
Norwegian Saint wrote:
is Jesus the cup manager? He comes out to do the interviews, so is it him that picks the cup teams? If so.... FU*KING pack your bags and FU'K off after that interview! Disgraceful answers! Get your wallet out and pay the fans!
Yes... I'm still angry, I feel sick about that selection and result but fuming with his blazay interview.
Great attitude towards our management, disgrace to call yourself a supporter.
Swesaint, I am as proud a supporter as you could ever dream of. Never question my loyalty to the Saints. The interview by Jesus was cringeworthy and a disgrace to come out and say the guys aren't disappointed! +19 votes (so far) shows others want to know what role this guy does and that yesterday he was an embarrassment to us supporters. If you read other posts I am calling MoPo a world class manager but his staff member was a Fuc'king idiot for the comments he made and yes, if he decides the team, if he decides to come out and talk like Saints didn't care then he can go. I nearly flew over for the match and although it was a poor performance from the team I was (and still am) fuming with his comments!
I guess you might be a little sour about us Norwegians beating the Swedes too? But never ever question my support of the Saints!
As long as you put out comments of that quality you will be questioned. So you almost made it, I was actually there, not that it matters but you brought it up. I thought we spoke about fotball here, and I guess your inferiority complex needs you to stray into other sport.
Sorry Swede, I am really sorry that I am disappointed at a poor performance but angry at a person coming out and saying stupid, no, pathetic quotes. My anger is at Jesus, not MoPo, Jesus! It brought back memories of the minister of Iraq saying "we have it under control" while a British tank runs behind him!
It was a good chance to progress, we blew it, fair enough, but are you telling me you agree with the comments of JP!? Even Luke says he was devastated... not according to Jesus. It was the most pathetic interview a Saints employee has done in the new era and yes, I am very angry at that. Adam said it was the most important match of the season... no, not according to Jesus!
Inferiority complex?? Haaahaaaaarrrrrrr... You (as with most Swedes) obviously have lost your sense of humour regarding the Olympics... take a joke, get off your high opinionated chair, sit down and calm down!
[quote][p][bold]swesaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swesaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: is Jesus the cup manager? He comes out to do the interviews, so is it him that picks the cup teams? If so.... FU*KING pack your bags and FU'K off after that interview! Disgraceful answers! Get your wallet out and pay the fans! Yes... I'm still angry, I feel sick about that selection and result but fuming with his blazay interview.[/p][/quote]Great attitude towards our management, disgrace to call yourself a supporter.[/p][/quote]Swesaint, I am as proud a supporter as you could ever dream of. Never question my loyalty to the Saints. The interview by Jesus was cringeworthy and a disgrace to come out and say the guys aren't disappointed! +19 votes (so far) shows others want to know what role this guy does and that yesterday he was an embarrassment to us supporters. If you read other posts I am calling MoPo a world class manager but his staff member was a Fuc'king idiot for the comments he made and yes, if he decides the team, if he decides to come out and talk like Saints didn't care then he can go. I nearly flew over for the match and although it was a poor performance from the team I was (and still am) fuming with his comments! I guess you might be a little sour about us Norwegians beating the Swedes too? But never ever question my support of the Saints![/p][/quote]As long as you put out comments of that quality you will be questioned. So you almost made it, I was actually there, not that it matters but you brought it up. I thought we spoke about fotball here, and I guess your inferiority complex needs you to stray into other sport.[/p][/quote]Sorry Swede, I am really sorry that I am disappointed at a poor performance but angry at a person coming out and saying stupid, no, pathetic quotes. My anger is at Jesus, not MoPo, Jesus! It brought back memories of the minister of Iraq saying "we have it under control" while a British tank runs behind him! It was a good chance to progress, we blew it, fair enough, but are you telling me you agree with the comments of JP!? Even Luke says he was devastated... not according to Jesus. It was the most pathetic interview a Saints employee has done in the new era and yes, I am very angry at that. Adam said it was the most important match of the season... no, not according to Jesus! Inferiority complex?? Haaahaaaaarrrrrrr... You (as with most Swedes) obviously have lost your sense of humour regarding the Olympics... take a joke, get off your high opinionated chair, sit down and calm down! Norwegian Saint

12:15pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Mush On The Beach says...

To give Sunderland a free pass in one cup competition is foolish, to give it to them twice is unforgiveable. There were a host of reasons for yesterday’s failure but ultimately it comes back to the coaching staff and their selection policy. The mindset of the team was compromised, did they expect a walk in the park because of Sunderland’s outs? The tempo of the team matched the emptiness and soullessness of the stadium, but professional footballers should still be able motivate themselves.

Embarrassed, disappointed and wasted opportunity is my summary.
You and I will wake up tomorrow morning still as Saints fans and will cheer them ALL on in the next game because that is what we do, COYR!
To give Sunderland a free pass in one cup competition is foolish, to give it to them twice is unforgiveable. There were a host of reasons for yesterday’s failure but ultimately it comes back to the coaching staff and their selection policy. The mindset of the team was compromised, did they expect a walk in the park because of Sunderland’s outs? The tempo of the team matched the emptiness and soullessness of the stadium, but professional footballers should still be able motivate themselves. Embarrassed, disappointed and wasted opportunity is my summary. You and I will wake up tomorrow morning still as Saints fans and will cheer them ALL on in the next game because that is what we do, COYR! Mush On The Beach

12:30pm Sun 16 Feb 14

el caballo santos101 says...

StElsass wrote:
Saint. wrote:
I as any other Saints fan is annoyed and sadden to go out, but shame on many of you, and slightly shortsighted too. You over look many things and many sound like those stupid commentators who think and want Saints to be a small club and had so much crap about what Saints should of done, and you come on here and regurgitate it!

Firstly respect to all those travelling fans for travelling all that way, for an early start and in those dangerous conditions! TOTAL RESPECT!

Points to think may be....

1 MP clearly loves his back room staff and they have brought this club up to play high pressured game, which is exciting to watching and out playing most teams we've played, even if we didn't collect all the points! On that I think MP shares everything with his team and brings them to the forefront for cup games! what's wrong with that?

2 I appreciate our standard of game is so high now, but do the moaning Saints fans really think we deserve to win every single game? Which team does? Even in one cup competitions which was slowly opening up for us to win!

3 simply the pitch was awful! The conditions were hideous to play in too!

4 It was only one blistering pot luck shot that caught the wind and that beat a second choice goalie, who was slightly out of positions in the first place!

5 Despite the changes the experience players did not have a great game either! Lambert, Lallana and Davis who have been brilliant this season were slightly off in this game. It does happen and nothing to do with the changes!

6 the changes were of good quality anyway, and if your honest should of beaten Monkey boy!

7 Monkey boy has a hold on Saints, I think when he was a Brighton he must of paid a visit to a travelling gypsy of something.

8 Whose to say that playing our strongest side we would of won? On the day we would of still most likely lost by one goal. as mention many players were not having their best game anyway!

9 would all you moaners would of been happy if we played our best team, and say spider broke down and lost for a month or more. We have to trust MP to get our best players through the whole season!

10 For all those stupid half empty cup supporters who also listen to all that crap on the TV from the commentators! NEWSFLASH! Southampton FC still very much to play for this season! Look at the league! We are best placed to hit higher places!! We have a good run of games coming, and the higher we go the more money this club gets!! We can still make Europe even if the pundits what all TV viewers to think this small coastal club is punching above its weight and all should think we will be lucky to finish 9th. Perfected statement ! Now with this cup exit I would expect MP to win as many games in hopefully better weather condition and throw Southampton FC to six or above. It's with in our hands and we are only a few points behind, and is the only course Saints must apply if our development to winning this league in sometime in the near future.

11 the higher we are the better the player we can attract in the summer!!

Come on don't listen to so called TV pundits who know nothing and easy to think us as a small club that just makes up the numbers!

We have the BEST manager! We have the best TEAM spirit! We have the best way of of PLAYING football! We have the BEST club!

Finish high in the league as possibly, and buy some top quality players in the summer. Southampton cup is half full!
OK, we stop listening to the "experts" on TV who know nothing and instead read the pearls of wisdom from someone we don't know on an internet forum. Thanks for the advise.
Regarding your point number 10, I agree that we have a good chance to qualify for Europe. Only WE DON'T WANT TO!! Our manager has said that much himself.
And if we have the best manager and team, don't you think they're wasted playing for top 6 and nothing else?
ok listen to the `experts` on the TV if you want. personally I don't think WarnCock qualifies as an `expert` on football, let alone saints. BT also had owen `sick note` Hargreaves as an `expert` again what is he an `expert` on? how long has he spent involved in the English game? is anyone that they sit in a studio and give a microphone an expert?
personally I would much rather listen to other saints fans opinions, even if I don't always agree with them eh costa!, than these `experts` on TV who didn't even know that jesus takes the team for the cup games which includes doing all the press! warnCock and sick note along with Jake Humphrey yesterday were moaning all the time that MP couldn't be bothered to do the interviews because its just a cup game. surely a tiny bit of research would have informed them that jesus does all the cup games, but then I suppose they are the `experts` and so can never be wrong! whereas saints fans who follow the club every week and go to all home and some away games and have done so, in some cases, for many many years can never be considered an expert and do not know as much as these `read notes from researchers before the game` tv experts.
[quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint.[/bold] wrote: I as any other Saints fan is annoyed and sadden to go out, but shame on many of you, and slightly shortsighted too. You over look many things and many sound like those stupid commentators who think and want Saints to be a small club and had so much crap about what Saints should of done, and you come on here and regurgitate it! Firstly respect to all those travelling fans for travelling all that way, for an early start and in those dangerous conditions! TOTAL RESPECT! Points to think may be.... 1 MP clearly loves his back room staff and they have brought this club up to play high pressured game, which is exciting to watching and out playing most teams we've played, even if we didn't collect all the points! On that I think MP shares everything with his team and brings them to the forefront for cup games! what's wrong with that? 2 I appreciate our standard of game is so high now, but do the moaning Saints fans really think we deserve to win every single game? Which team does? Even in one cup competitions which was slowly opening up for us to win! 3 simply the pitch was awful! The conditions were hideous to play in too! 4 It was only one blistering pot luck shot that caught the wind and that beat a second choice goalie, who was slightly out of positions in the first place! 5 Despite the changes the experience players did not have a great game either! Lambert, Lallana and Davis who have been brilliant this season were slightly off in this game. It does happen and nothing to do with the changes! 6 the changes were of good quality anyway, and if your honest should of beaten Monkey boy! 7 Monkey boy has a hold on Saints, I think when he was a Brighton he must of paid a visit to a travelling gypsy of something. 8 Whose to say that playing our strongest side we would of won? On the day we would of still most likely lost by one goal. as mention many players were not having their best game anyway! 9 would all you moaners would of been happy if we played our best team, and say spider broke down and lost for a month or more. We have to trust MP to get our best players through the whole season! 10 For all those stupid half empty cup supporters who also listen to all that crap on the TV from the commentators! NEWSFLASH! Southampton FC still very much to play for this season! Look at the league! We are best placed to hit higher places!! We have a good run of games coming, and the higher we go the more money this club gets!! We can still make Europe even if the pundits what all TV viewers to think this small coastal club is punching above its weight and all should think we will be lucky to finish 9th. Perfected statement ! Now with this cup exit I would expect MP to win as many games in hopefully better weather condition and throw Southampton FC to six or above. It's with in our hands and we are only a few points behind, and is the only course Saints must apply if our development to winning this league in sometime in the near future. 11 the higher we are the better the player we can attract in the summer!! Come on don't listen to so called TV pundits who know nothing and easy to think us as a small club that just makes up the numbers! We have the BEST manager! We have the best TEAM spirit! We have the best way of of PLAYING football! We have the BEST club! Finish high in the league as possibly, and buy some top quality players in the summer. Southampton cup is half full![/p][/quote]OK, we stop listening to the "experts" on TV who know nothing and instead read the pearls of wisdom from someone we don't know on an internet forum. Thanks for the advise. Regarding your point number 10, I agree that we have a good chance to qualify for Europe. Only WE DON'T WANT TO!! Our manager has said that much himself. And if we have the best manager and team, don't you think they're wasted playing for top 6 and nothing else?[/p][/quote]ok listen to the `experts` on the TV if you want. personally I don't think WarnCock qualifies as an `expert` on football, let alone saints. BT also had owen `sick note` Hargreaves as an `expert` again what is he an `expert` on? how long has he spent involved in the English game? is anyone that they sit in a studio and give a microphone an expert? personally I would much rather listen to other saints fans opinions, even if I don't always agree with them eh costa!, than these `experts` on TV who didn't even know that jesus takes the team for the cup games which includes doing all the press! warnCock and sick note along with Jake Humphrey yesterday were moaning all the time that MP couldn't be bothered to do the interviews because its just a cup game. surely a tiny bit of research would have informed them that jesus does all the cup games, but then I suppose they are the `experts` and so can never be wrong! whereas saints fans who follow the club every week and go to all home and some away games and have done so, in some cases, for many many years can never be considered an expert and do not know as much as these `read notes from researchers before the game` tv experts. el caballo santos101

12:33pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Egomaniac says...

Saint. wrote:
I as any other Saints fan is annoyed and sadden to go out, but shame on many of you, and slightly shortsighted too. You over look many things and many sound like those stupid commentators who think and want Saints to be a small club and had so much crap about what Saints should of done, and you come on here and regurgitate it!

Firstly respect to all those travelling fans for travelling all that way, for an early start and in those dangerous conditions! TOTAL RESPECT!

Points to think may be....

1 MP clearly loves his back room staff and they have brought this club up to play high pressured game, which is exciting to watching and out playing most teams we've played, even if we didn't collect all the points! On that I think MP shares everything with his team and brings them to the forefront for cup games! what's wrong with that?

2 I appreciate our standard of game is so high now, but do the moaning Saints fans really think we deserve to win every single game? Which team does? Even in one cup competitions which was slowly opening up for us to win!

3 simply the pitch was awful! The conditions were hideous to play in too!

4 It was only one blistering pot luck shot that caught the wind and that beat a second choice goalie, who was slightly out of positions in the first place!

5 Despite the changes the experience players did not have a great game either! Lambert, Lallana and Davis who have been brilliant this season were slightly off in this game. It does happen and nothing to do with the changes!

6 the changes were of good quality anyway, and if your honest should of beaten Monkey boy!

7 Monkey boy has a hold on Saints, I think when he was a Brighton he must of paid a visit to a travelling gypsy of something.

8 Whose to say that playing our strongest side we would of won? On the day we would of still most likely lost by one goal. as mention many players were not having their best game anyway!

9 would all you moaners would of been happy if we played our best team, and say spider broke down and lost for a month or more. We have to trust MP to get our best players through the whole season!

10 For all those stupid half empty cup supporters who also listen to all that crap on the TV from the commentators! NEWSFLASH! Southampton FC still very much to play for this season! Look at the league! We are best placed to hit higher places!! We have a good run of games coming, and the higher we go the more money this club gets!! We can still make Europe even if the pundits what all TV viewers to think this small coastal club is punching above its weight and all should think we will be lucky to finish 9th. Perfected statement ! Now with this cup exit I would expect MP to win as many games in hopefully better weather condition and throw Southampton FC to six or above. It's with in our hands and we are only a few points behind, and is the only course Saints must apply if our development to winning this league in sometime in the near future.

11 the higher we are the better the player we can attract in the summer!!

Come on don't listen to so called TV pundits who know nothing and easy to think us as a small club that just makes up the numbers!

We have the BEST manager! We have the best TEAM spirit! We have the best way of of PLAYING football! We have the BEST club!

Finish high in the league as possibly, and buy some top quality players in the summer. Southampton cup is half full!
My view all along. Extremely well set out argument, and gets full marks from me.

Well done saint!
[quote][p][bold]Saint.[/bold] wrote: I as any other Saints fan is annoyed and sadden to go out, but shame on many of you, and slightly shortsighted too. You over look many things and many sound like those stupid commentators who think and want Saints to be a small club and had so much crap about what Saints should of done, and you come on here and regurgitate it! Firstly respect to all those travelling fans for travelling all that way, for an early start and in those dangerous conditions! TOTAL RESPECT! Points to think may be.... 1 MP clearly loves his back room staff and they have brought this club up to play high pressured game, which is exciting to watching and out playing most teams we've played, even if we didn't collect all the points! On that I think MP shares everything with his team and brings them to the forefront for cup games! what's wrong with that? 2 I appreciate our standard of game is so high now, but do the moaning Saints fans really think we deserve to win every single game? Which team does? Even in one cup competitions which was slowly opening up for us to win! 3 simply the pitch was awful! The conditions were hideous to play in too! 4 It was only one blistering pot luck shot that caught the wind and that beat a second choice goalie, who was slightly out of positions in the first place! 5 Despite the changes the experience players did not have a great game either! Lambert, Lallana and Davis who have been brilliant this season were slightly off in this game. It does happen and nothing to do with the changes! 6 the changes were of good quality anyway, and if your honest should of beaten Monkey boy! 7 Monkey boy has a hold on Saints, I think when he was a Brighton he must of paid a visit to a travelling gypsy of something. 8 Whose to say that playing our strongest side we would of won? On the day we would of still most likely lost by one goal. as mention many players were not having their best game anyway! 9 would all you moaners would of been happy if we played our best team, and say spider broke down and lost for a month or more. We have to trust MP to get our best players through the whole season! 10 For all those stupid half empty cup supporters who also listen to all that crap on the TV from the commentators! NEWSFLASH! Southampton FC still very much to play for this season! Look at the league! We are best placed to hit higher places!! We have a good run of games coming, and the higher we go the more money this club gets!! We can still make Europe even if the pundits what all TV viewers to think this small coastal club is punching above its weight and all should think we will be lucky to finish 9th. Perfected statement ! Now with this cup exit I would expect MP to win as many games in hopefully better weather condition and throw Southampton FC to six or above. It's with in our hands and we are only a few points behind, and is the only course Saints must apply if our development to winning this league in sometime in the near future. 11 the higher we are the better the player we can attract in the summer!! Come on don't listen to so called TV pundits who know nothing and easy to think us as a small club that just makes up the numbers! We have the BEST manager! We have the best TEAM spirit! We have the best way of of PLAYING football! We have the BEST club! Finish high in the league as possibly, and buy some top quality players in the summer. Southampton cup is half full![/p][/quote]My view all along. Extremely well set out argument, and gets full marks from me. Well done saint! Egomaniac

12:36pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Saint. says...

BracknellSaint wrote:
Ok, a disappointing performance and result. We had an off day, and it's cost us a chance to win a cup.
Any fan would like to win a trophy, obviously.
That said, as mentioned above the highest achievement, outside of winning the league or getting Champions League qualification, is to get into, and stay in the Premier. Getting as high up that league as possible also takes a hell of an effort, over 38 games, home and away, through injuries, suspensions, dodgy ref decisions etc...So, as disappointed as I am, the win against Hull was massive, and the next game against the awful, dour, hoofing, fouling gang of Fat Sam's dinosaurs is much bigger for me. Can't stand the man, so REALLY want to put them to the sword. Glad the off day was in this game, so we can get back to winning ways in the league.
This has been possibly the best football I've seen us play in my 38 years, and really looking forward to seeing if we really can get 7th, and then hopefully keep the young lads in the summer, and adding a couple more stars to take us to the next level, to give us an even more amazing season next year!
My point exactly!

One other thing, how nice is it to see Saints play away knowing they going to try and win in the league and not going to say oh let's count on our home form and see if we might get a draw away! Saints have created a healthy respect in this league that we are going to come for you home or away!

COYR! Let's go for fifth and make a statement of intent!
[quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: Ok, a disappointing performance and result. We had an off day, and it's cost us a chance to win a cup. Any fan would like to win a trophy, obviously. That said, as mentioned above the highest achievement, outside of winning the league or getting Champions League qualification, is to get into, and stay in the Premier. Getting as high up that league as possible also takes a hell of an effort, over 38 games, home and away, through injuries, suspensions, dodgy ref decisions etc...So, as disappointed as I am, the win against Hull was massive, and the next game against the awful, dour, hoofing, fouling gang of Fat Sam's dinosaurs is much bigger for me. Can't stand the man, so REALLY want to put them to the sword. Glad the off day was in this game, so we can get back to winning ways in the league. This has been possibly the best football I've seen us play in my 38 years, and really looking forward to seeing if we really can get 7th, and then hopefully keep the young lads in the summer, and adding a couple more stars to take us to the next level, to give us an even more amazing season next year![/p][/quote]My point exactly! One other thing, how nice is it to see Saints play away knowing they going to try and win in the league and not going to say oh let's count on our home form and see if we might get a draw away! Saints have created a healthy respect in this league that we are going to come for you home or away! COYR! Let's go for fifth and make a statement of intent! Saint.

12:43pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Mush On The Beach says...

mack chinnon wrote:
As from now I am going to refer to Rickie,s miss as "Doing a Kanu"
JWP missed a good chance early doors when we were getting on top that for me was the key moment. It could be worse people, we could have done a Pompey!
[quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: As from now I am going to refer to Rickie,s miss as "Doing a Kanu"[/p][/quote]JWP missed a good chance early doors when we were getting on top that for me was the key moment. It could be worse people, we could have done a Pompey! Mush On The Beach

1:10pm Sun 16 Feb 14

doos says...

Enjoy the draw today!!

I'm sure missing out on Wembley and not winning the cup will feel better when you finish 8th. Maybe an open top bus round Southampton holding a big 8!!!??? and then you could put the big 8 in your trophy cabinet next to the paint pot cup.

Southampton yawn! No ambition.
Enjoy the draw today!! I'm sure missing out on Wembley and not winning the cup will feel better when you finish 8th. Maybe an open top bus round Southampton holding a big 8!!!??? and then you could put the big 8 in your trophy cabinet next to the paint pot cup. Southampton yawn! No ambition. doos

1:16pm Sun 16 Feb 14

miltonarcher says...

Egomaniac wrote:
Saint. wrote:
I as any other Saints fan is annoyed and sadden to go out, but shame on many of you, and slightly shortsighted too. You over look many things and many sound like those stupid commentators who think and want Saints to be a small club and had so much crap about what Saints should of done, and you come on here and regurgitate it!

Firstly respect to all those travelling fans for travelling all that way, for an early start and in those dangerous conditions! TOTAL RESPECT!

Points to think may be....

1 MP clearly loves his back room staff and they have brought this club up to play high pressured game, which is exciting to watching and out playing most teams we've played, even if we didn't collect all the points! On that I think MP shares everything with his team and brings them to the forefront for cup games! what's wrong with that?

2 I appreciate our standard of game is so high now, but do the moaning Saints fans really think we deserve to win every single game? Which team does? Even in one cup competitions which was slowly opening up for us to win!

3 simply the pitch was awful! The conditions were hideous to play in too!

4 It was only one blistering pot luck shot that caught the wind and that beat a second choice goalie, who was slightly out of positions in the first place!

5 Despite the changes the experience players did not have a great game either! Lambert, Lallana and Davis who have been brilliant this season were slightly off in this game. It does happen and nothing to do with the changes!

6 the changes were of good quality anyway, and if your honest should of beaten Monkey boy!

7 Monkey boy has a hold on Saints, I think when he was a Brighton he must of paid a visit to a travelling gypsy of something.

8 Whose to say that playing our strongest side we would of won? On the day we would of still most likely lost by one goal. as mention many players were not having their best game anyway!

9 would all you moaners would of been happy if we played our best team, and say spider broke down and lost for a month or more. We have to trust MP to get our best players through the whole season!

10 For all those stupid half empty cup supporters who also listen to all that crap on the TV from the commentators! NEWSFLASH! Southampton FC still very much to play for this season! Look at the league! We are best placed to hit higher places!! We have a good run of games coming, and the higher we go the more money this club gets!! We can still make Europe even if the pundits what all TV viewers to think this small coastal club is punching above its weight and all should think we will be lucky to finish 9th. Perfected statement ! Now with this cup exit I would expect MP to win as many games in hopefully better weather condition and throw Southampton FC to six or above. It's with in our hands and we are only a few points behind, and is the only course Saints must apply if our development to winning this league in sometime in the near future.

11 the higher we are the better the player we can attract in the summer!!

Come on don't listen to so called TV pundits who know nothing and easy to think us as a small club that just makes up the numbers!

We have the BEST manager! We have the best TEAM spirit! We have the best way of of PLAYING football! We have the BEST club!

Finish high in the league as possibly, and buy some top quality players in the summer. Southampton cup is half full!
My view all along. Extremely well set out argument, and gets full marks from me.

Well done saint!
I take it you are being ironic? That post is full of drivel. And perhaps more annoying is the use of, of instead of have. Example, I could of, which is nonsense, try I could have next time.
[quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint.[/bold] wrote: I as any other Saints fan is annoyed and sadden to go out, but shame on many of you, and slightly shortsighted too. You over look many things and many sound like those stupid commentators who think and want Saints to be a small club and had so much crap about what Saints should of done, and you come on here and regurgitate it! Firstly respect to all those travelling fans for travelling all that way, for an early start and in those dangerous conditions! TOTAL RESPECT! Points to think may be.... 1 MP clearly loves his back room staff and they have brought this club up to play high pressured game, which is exciting to watching and out playing most teams we've played, even if we didn't collect all the points! On that I think MP shares everything with his team and brings them to the forefront for cup games! what's wrong with that? 2 I appreciate our standard of game is so high now, but do the moaning Saints fans really think we deserve to win every single game? Which team does? Even in one cup competitions which was slowly opening up for us to win! 3 simply the pitch was awful! The conditions were hideous to play in too! 4 It was only one blistering pot luck shot that caught the wind and that beat a second choice goalie, who was slightly out of positions in the first place! 5 Despite the changes the experience players did not have a great game either! Lambert, Lallana and Davis who have been brilliant this season were slightly off in this game. It does happen and nothing to do with the changes! 6 the changes were of good quality anyway, and if your honest should of beaten Monkey boy! 7 Monkey boy has a hold on Saints, I think when he was a Brighton he must of paid a visit to a travelling gypsy of something. 8 Whose to say that playing our strongest side we would of won? On the day we would of still most likely lost by one goal. as mention many players were not having their best game anyway! 9 would all you moaners would of been happy if we played our best team, and say spider broke down and lost for a month or more. We have to trust MP to get our best players through the whole season! 10 For all those stupid half empty cup supporters who also listen to all that crap on the TV from the commentators! NEWSFLASH! Southampton FC still very much to play for this season! Look at the league! We are best placed to hit higher places!! We have a good run of games coming, and the higher we go the more money this club gets!! We can still make Europe even if the pundits what all TV viewers to think this small coastal club is punching above its weight and all should think we will be lucky to finish 9th. Perfected statement ! Now with this cup exit I would expect MP to win as many games in hopefully better weather condition and throw Southampton FC to six or above. It's with in our hands and we are only a few points behind, and is the only course Saints must apply if our development to winning this league in sometime in the near future. 11 the higher we are the better the player we can attract in the summer!! Come on don't listen to so called TV pundits who know nothing and easy to think us as a small club that just makes up the numbers! We have the BEST manager! We have the best TEAM spirit! We have the best way of of PLAYING football! We have the BEST club! Finish high in the league as possibly, and buy some top quality players in the summer. Southampton cup is half full![/p][/quote]My view all along. Extremely well set out argument, and gets full marks from me. Well done saint![/p][/quote]I take it you are being ironic? That post is full of drivel. And perhaps more annoying is the use of, of instead of have. Example, I could of, which is nonsense, try I could have next time. miltonarcher

1:18pm Sun 16 Feb 14

dadofmy3sons says...

Any one who has supported Saints for any length of time will be able to point to some unexplainable event at some time or another.
In recent seasons we have had even more than usual.
Depends on your point of view as to which of these events has been the most future changing.
I think that yesterdays game was just a mixture of all the things that can go wrong and it has affected many clubs recently.
Ask any fan of any club that has recently been turned over in a game that they thought they were bound to win.
We sit 8th because several teams have played below expected levels and we have raised our game. We would have to do something absloutely horrific to even flirt with relegation, but don't under any circumstances believe that we can't do that.
To win the F.A.Cup a large slice of luck is required, and Sunderland have had several this season so don't write them off making two Wembley appearances and surviving in the Prem.
Not for one moment do I bekieve that any person at our club wanted to lose this game and there will be a lot of players in training on Monday determined to make amends to us the fans.
Any one who has supported Saints for any length of time will be able to point to some unexplainable event at some time or another. In recent seasons we have had even more than usual. Depends on your point of view as to which of these events has been the most future changing. I think that yesterdays game was just a mixture of all the things that can go wrong and it has affected many clubs recently. Ask any fan of any club that has recently been turned over in a game that they thought they were bound to win. We sit 8th because several teams have played below expected levels and we have raised our game. We would have to do something absloutely horrific to even flirt with relegation, but don't under any circumstances believe that we can't do that. To win the F.A.Cup a large slice of luck is required, and Sunderland have had several this season so don't write them off making two Wembley appearances and surviving in the Prem. Not for one moment do I bekieve that any person at our club wanted to lose this game and there will be a lot of players in training on Monday determined to make amends to us the fans. dadofmy3sons

1:18pm Sun 16 Feb 14

bluewhiteandred says...

The Saint and Pompey rivalry aside the Greatest cup competition is in threat of ending jesus perez does not give a sh** he gets paid well you Saints fans should take the lead as the only premier representative club in the South to protest the premier club attitude to the FA CUP if they offered a champion league place to the winners place things would be diffarent CARDIFF and SUNDERLAND had poor crowds ?
is this premier survival or position
resting the best players to rob the fans hard cash earned to watch a weaker team . I fear Saints , Pompey , Brighton , Bournemouth
Plymouth , Crawley wont have nothing to play for in the future the money clubs will take all .
Saints fans lead the way do a petition send it around the rest of the Premier SAVE THE FA CUP ! .
The Saint and Pompey rivalry aside the Greatest cup competition is in threat of ending jesus perez does not give a sh** he gets paid well you Saints fans should take the lead as the only premier representative club in the South to protest the premier club attitude to the FA CUP if they offered a champion league place to the winners place things would be diffarent CARDIFF and SUNDERLAND had poor crowds ? is this premier survival or position resting the best players to rob the fans hard cash earned to watch a weaker team . I fear Saints , Pompey , Brighton , Bournemouth Plymouth , Crawley wont have nothing to play for in the future the money clubs will take all . Saints fans lead the way do a petition send it around the rest of the Premier SAVE THE FA CUP ! . bluewhiteandred

1:23pm Sun 16 Feb 14

el caballo santos101 says...

doos wrote:
Enjoy the draw today!!

I'm sure missing out on Wembley and not winning the cup will feel better when you finish 8th. Maybe an open top bus round Southampton holding a big 8!!!??? and then you could put the big 8 in your trophy cabinet next to the paint pot cup.

Southampton yawn! No ambition.
it will feel so much better than a relegation dog fight and the risk of dropping out of the football league. perhaps if you stay up you could go on an open top bus round poopey holding up a big list of debtors and charities/companies your club have done over. you could invite all the nurses and other public sector workers who have been made redundant because you never paid the millions in tax you owed. then you could put a bid pound sign in front of your fa cup to remind everyone that your still trying not to pay for it! poopey yawn no morals and no money!
[quote][p][bold]doos[/bold] wrote: Enjoy the draw today!! I'm sure missing out on Wembley and not winning the cup will feel better when you finish 8th. Maybe an open top bus round Southampton holding a big 8!!!??? and then you could put the big 8 in your trophy cabinet next to the paint pot cup. Southampton yawn! No ambition.[/p][/quote]it will feel so much better than a relegation dog fight and the risk of dropping out of the football league. perhaps if you stay up you could go on an open top bus round poopey holding up a big list of debtors and charities/companies your club have done over. you could invite all the nurses and other public sector workers who have been made redundant because you never paid the millions in tax you owed. then you could put a bid pound sign in front of your fa cup to remind everyone that your still trying not to pay for it! poopey yawn no morals and no money! el caballo santos101

1:34pm Sun 16 Feb 14

bluewhiteandred says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
doos wrote:
Enjoy the draw today!!

I'm sure missing out on Wembley and not winning the cup will feel better when you finish 8th. Maybe an open top bus round Southampton holding a big 8!!!??? and then you could put the big 8 in your trophy cabinet next to the paint pot cup.

Southampton yawn! No ambition.
it will feel so much better than a relegation dog fight and the risk of dropping out of the football league. perhaps if you stay up you could go on an open top bus round poopey holding up a big list of debtors and charities/companies your club have done over. you could invite all the nurses and other public sector workers who have been made redundant because you never paid the millions in tax you owed. then you could put a bid pound sign in front of your fa cup to remind everyone that your still trying not to pay for it! poopey yawn no morals and no money!
Come on Saints fans the capital Cup and The FA cup is at risk the proof is their Resting players will diminish crowds and end the cup competitions above for the benefit the top six premier clubs playing in Europe hence resting players and the proof how and why did Bradford get to cup final resting payers ! SAINTS fans do a petition .
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doos[/bold] wrote: Enjoy the draw today!! I'm sure missing out on Wembley and not winning the cup will feel better when you finish 8th. Maybe an open top bus round Southampton holding a big 8!!!??? and then you could put the big 8 in your trophy cabinet next to the paint pot cup. Southampton yawn! No ambition.[/p][/quote]it will feel so much better than a relegation dog fight and the risk of dropping out of the football league. perhaps if you stay up you could go on an open top bus round poopey holding up a big list of debtors and charities/companies your club have done over. you could invite all the nurses and other public sector workers who have been made redundant because you never paid the millions in tax you owed. then you could put a bid pound sign in front of your fa cup to remind everyone that your still trying not to pay for it! poopey yawn no morals and no money![/p][/quote]Come on Saints fans the capital Cup and The FA cup is at risk the proof is their Resting players will diminish crowds and end the cup competitions above for the benefit the top six premier clubs playing in Europe hence resting players and the proof how and why did Bradford get to cup final resting payers ! SAINTS fans do a petition . bluewhiteandred

1:49pm Sun 16 Feb 14

doos says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
doos wrote:
Enjoy the draw today!!

I'm sure missing out on Wembley and not winning the cup will feel better when you finish 8th. Maybe an open top bus round Southampton holding a big 8!!!??? and then you could put the big 8 in your trophy cabinet next to the paint pot cup.

Southampton yawn! No ambition.
it will feel so much better than a relegation dog fight and the risk of dropping out of the football league. perhaps if you stay up you could go on an open top bus round poopey holding up a big list of debtors and charities/companies your club have done over. you could invite all the nurses and other public sector workers who have been made redundant because you never paid the millions in tax you owed. then you could put a bid pound sign in front of your fa cup to remind everyone that your still trying not to pay for it! poopey yawn no morals and no money!
Ouch, yesterday is till sore isn't is.

I remember the buzz of walking up Wembley way on cup final day and seeing us lift the cup. Even if we play in Gosport and Fareham Sunday league no one can take that from us. Surprised you didn't ty to win something before your owner flogs your talent and club as she hates football.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doos[/bold] wrote: Enjoy the draw today!! I'm sure missing out on Wembley and not winning the cup will feel better when you finish 8th. Maybe an open top bus round Southampton holding a big 8!!!??? and then you could put the big 8 in your trophy cabinet next to the paint pot cup. Southampton yawn! No ambition.[/p][/quote]it will feel so much better than a relegation dog fight and the risk of dropping out of the football league. perhaps if you stay up you could go on an open top bus round poopey holding up a big list of debtors and charities/companies your club have done over. you could invite all the nurses and other public sector workers who have been made redundant because you never paid the millions in tax you owed. then you could put a bid pound sign in front of your fa cup to remind everyone that your still trying not to pay for it! poopey yawn no morals and no money![/p][/quote]Ouch, yesterday is till sore isn't is. I remember the buzz of walking up Wembley way on cup final day and seeing us lift the cup. Even if we play in Gosport and Fareham Sunday league no one can take that from us. Surprised you didn't ty to win something before your owner flogs your talent and club as she hates football. doos

1:56pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Simmo13 says...

bluewhiteandred wrote:
Abbey Saint wrote:
sorry, but his comments are total c0ck.

This was NOT Saints strongest side, and to say he was just a "little sad" to be knocked out of THE FA CUP at this late stage when we have nothing else to play for this season (Poch has already said the uefa cup is not useful) disrespects the FA cup, the travelling fans and the Saints history.
I have had sleepless nights thinking Saints would win the cup 8th in Prem and three fine wins and they drop your best ? we had almost the same crowd in div 2 whats going on ?
It was an away game idiot not our home crowd that you never get anywhere near !!!
[quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Abbey Saint[/bold] wrote: sorry, but his comments are total c0ck. This was NOT Saints strongest side, and to say he was just a "little sad" to be knocked out of THE FA CUP at this late stage when we have nothing else to play for this season (Poch has already said the uefa cup is not useful) disrespects the FA cup, the travelling fans and the Saints history.[/p][/quote]I have had sleepless nights thinking Saints would win the cup 8th in Prem and three fine wins and they drop your best ? we had almost the same crowd in div 2 whats going on ?[/p][/quote]It was an away game idiot not our home crowd that you never get anywhere near !!! Simmo13

1:59pm Sun 16 Feb 14

SWAYTHLING SAINT says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Does anyone else find it bizarre that the assistant manager takes charge for cup games....
Just can't get my head around that one.
As soon as the team was announced I got a few €'s on a home win, easiest money I'll ever make... we lost before a ball was kicked.
Before today I was thinking that we could.possibly finish above Man Utd in the league, not really sure that the club has any intention to attempt this now.

One positive to take from today is that Osprey does not comment on here anymore.
well that's the right attitude, defeatist from the start.
I don't know any saints fan who would bet real money on the team losing! it wasn't the easiest money you have ever made though was it, if SRL, a player that no doubt you would have wanted on the team sheet, had scored that chance then you would have lost your money. well at least you've made a few quid out of picking your team to lose!
why you think that because of a very poor cup performance that the club no longer wants to push as high up the league as they can is beyond me. I suppose you will be trying to make a bit more money out of wanting saints to lose?
nice to see that your delighted that osprey has decided that he no longer wants to post any longer and that you take that as a positive from todays defeat (I really don't get the connection). again what a great supporter you must be, glad we lost so that a person you have never met no longer joins in on these forums, probably because he has different opinions to you. osprey is a harmless old, sorry osprey, geezer who uses these forums to show his support for the whole team and club and as a way of contacting other fans.
don't stop posting osprey, I may not always like everything you post, but you are often amusing and that's fine by me. anyway if posters like you, who are here regardless of the result disappeared, who would be here when we win? most of the moaners never turn up unless we lose.
as bad as we were, and we were bad, I still cant get my head around a saints fan betting on us to lose. must have been delighted when SRL put the ball over. well I suppose it must be a nice feeling knowing you've got a bit more money in your pocket!
I've had enough lectures questioning mine and many other fans about their level of loyalty to The Saints from Osprey to last me a lifetime, don't really need another from you thank you.
You see 101. i am a realist, I'd already picked up on the fact that MP did not want to take part in the Europa league and therefore would not make any real attempt to win this game.
I am a believer that you have to do your best in everything you attempt, with today' s team selection our management failed us, their nonchalant approach to the game rubbed off on the players I'm afraid and the result was inevitable.
Only in my humble opinion of course.
firstly costa I never questioned yours or any others `loyalty` what I said was that I don't know any saints fan that would bet real money on his own team losing, and I stand by that! you see I don't know you.
so you see the selected team and instantly think that that team is not good enough to beat any blunderland team? `I am a realist`? always a strange comment from anyone, so do you think that fans like me who thought that the team should have been able to beat blunderland are dreamers? let me remind you that the team selected had mainly first team starters, some coming back from injury and who need game time.
its ok to say that the management failed us with the team selection but you don't mention which players you would have dropped or picked.
as for the result being `inevitable` really? was it? so one long range great but a bit lucky shot against jwp`s chance lalla`s chance, or SRL`s chance? no we had enough chances to win and they went to our `first teamers` who you would have picked. simple thing is we played badly, really badly it happens.
I cant understand why anyone is saying that MP `threw` yesterdays game because he didn't want to win the cup and so get into Europe. people seem to forget the burnley game, that would have been the perfect game if MP really wanted to get knocked out of the cup.
so come on costa, what about yesterdays team selection made you want to put money on your own team losing? you cant have fonte starting as his leg was badly cut up during the hull game, he would have come on if really needed but why risk injuring him further?
Costa Gaz and Co are completely right. What gives you, ospreysaint and strasbourg the right to start questioning how much of a Saints fan a poster is. It comes off as childish and a little spiteful. Have your say and the rest of us will have our say, if you don't agree say so in a polite fashion. The thread is ruined by a few who think they are judge and jury. And looking at the thumbs down on posts, it's plain to see who the culprits are. This is a thread so Saints fans can have their say, even if they are not always positive. Grow up!
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Does anyone else find it bizarre that the assistant manager takes charge for cup games.... Just can't get my head around that one. As soon as the team was announced I got a few €'s on a home win, easiest money I'll ever make... we lost before a ball was kicked. Before today I was thinking that we could.possibly finish above Man Utd in the league, not really sure that the club has any intention to attempt this now. One positive to take from today is that Osprey does not comment on here anymore.[/p][/quote]well that's the right attitude, defeatist from the start. I don't know any saints fan who would bet real money on the team losing! it wasn't the easiest money you have ever made though was it, if SRL, a player that no doubt you would have wanted on the team sheet, had scored that chance then you would have lost your money. well at least you've made a few quid out of picking your team to lose! why you think that because of a very poor cup performance that the club no longer wants to push as high up the league as they can is beyond me. I suppose you will be trying to make a bit more money out of wanting saints to lose? nice to see that your delighted that osprey has decided that he no longer wants to post any longer and that you take that as a positive from todays defeat (I really don't get the connection). again what a great supporter you must be, glad we lost so that a person you have never met no longer joins in on these forums, probably because he has different opinions to you. osprey is a harmless old, sorry osprey, geezer who uses these forums to show his support for the whole team and club and as a way of contacting other fans. don't stop posting osprey, I may not always like everything you post, but you are often amusing and that's fine by me. anyway if posters like you, who are here regardless of the result disappeared, who would be here when we win? most of the moaners never turn up unless we lose. as bad as we were, and we were bad, I still cant get my head around a saints fan betting on us to lose. must have been delighted when SRL put the ball over. well I suppose it must be a nice feeling knowing you've got a bit more money in your pocket![/p][/quote]I've had enough lectures questioning mine and many other fans about their level of loyalty to The Saints from Osprey to last me a lifetime, don't really need another from you thank you. You see 101. i am a realist, I'd already picked up on the fact that MP did not want to take part in the Europa league and therefore would not make any real attempt to win this game. I am a believer that you have to do your best in everything you attempt, with today' s team selection our management failed us, their nonchalant approach to the game rubbed off on the players I'm afraid and the result was inevitable. Only in my humble opinion of course.[/p][/quote]firstly costa I never questioned yours or any others `loyalty` what I said was that I don't know any saints fan that would bet real money on his own team losing, and I stand by that! you see I don't know you. so you see the selected team and instantly think that that team is not good enough to beat any blunderland team? `I am a realist`? always a strange comment from anyone, so do you think that fans like me who thought that the team should have been able to beat blunderland are dreamers? let me remind you that the team selected had mainly first team starters, some coming back from injury and who need game time. its ok to say that the management failed us with the team selection but you don't mention which players you would have dropped or picked. as for the result being `inevitable` really? was it? so one long range great but a bit lucky shot against jwp`s chance lalla`s chance, or SRL`s chance? no we had enough chances to win and they went to our `first teamers` who you would have picked. simple thing is we played badly, really badly it happens. I cant understand why anyone is saying that MP `threw` yesterdays game because he didn't want to win the cup and so get into Europe. people seem to forget the burnley game, that would have been the perfect game if MP really wanted to get knocked out of the cup. so come on costa, what about yesterdays team selection made you want to put money on your own team losing? you cant have fonte starting as his leg was badly cut up during the hull game, he would have come on if really needed but why risk injuring him further?[/p][/quote]Costa Gaz and Co are completely right. What gives you, ospreysaint and strasbourg the right to start questioning how much of a Saints fan a poster is. It comes off as childish and a little spiteful. Have your say and the rest of us will have our say, if you don't agree say so in a polite fashion. The thread is ruined by a few who think they are judge and jury. And looking at the thumbs down on posts, it's plain to see who the culprits are. This is a thread so Saints fans can have their say, even if they are not always positive. Grow up! SWAYTHLING SAINT

2:04pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Simmo13 says...

pompey in spain wrote:
you took 800 fans today,disgraceful...

.no passion...joke of a club.was worth having that bbq tonite,oh yeah we won today btw.
Yes beating the mighty Wimbledon do us a favour and by the as a loyal supporter of nobodies how many games have you been to this season inbred ?
[quote][p][bold]pompey in spain[/bold] wrote: you took 800 fans today,disgraceful... .no passion...joke of a club.was worth having that bbq tonite,oh yeah we won today btw.[/p][/quote]Yes beating the mighty Wimbledon do us a favour and by the as a loyal supporter of nobodies how many games have you been to this season inbred ? Simmo13

2:07pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Folkestone Saint says...

doos wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
doos wrote:
Enjoy the draw today!!

I'm sure missing out on Wembley and not winning the cup will feel better when you finish 8th. Maybe an open top bus round Southampton holding a big 8!!!??? and then you could put the big 8 in your trophy cabinet next to the paint pot cup.

Southampton yawn! No ambition.
it will feel so much better than a relegation dog fight and the risk of dropping out of the football league. perhaps if you stay up you could go on an open top bus round poopey holding up a big list of debtors and charities/companies your club have done over. you could invite all the nurses and other public sector workers who have been made redundant because you never paid the millions in tax you owed. then you could put a bid pound sign in front of your fa cup to remind everyone that your still trying not to pay for it! poopey yawn no morals and no money!
Ouch, yesterday is till sore isn't is.

I remember the buzz of walking up Wembley way on cup final day and seeing us lift the cup. Even if we play in Gosport and Fareham Sunday league no one can take that from us. Surprised you didn't ty to win something before your owner flogs your talent and club as she hates football.
Ouch, yesterday is till sore isn't is. Can you remember what round you went out in this season, was it last year? we lose for the first time in 9 games and you come on here giving it large, is it because you have gone a whole 2 games without losing, no wonder the rest of the football league despise you and think you are a bad joke
[quote][p][bold]doos[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doos[/bold] wrote: Enjoy the draw today!! I'm sure missing out on Wembley and not winning the cup will feel better when you finish 8th. Maybe an open top bus round Southampton holding a big 8!!!??? and then you could put the big 8 in your trophy cabinet next to the paint pot cup. Southampton yawn! No ambition.[/p][/quote]it will feel so much better than a relegation dog fight and the risk of dropping out of the football league. perhaps if you stay up you could go on an open top bus round poopey holding up a big list of debtors and charities/companies your club have done over. you could invite all the nurses and other public sector workers who have been made redundant because you never paid the millions in tax you owed. then you could put a bid pound sign in front of your fa cup to remind everyone that your still trying not to pay for it! poopey yawn no morals and no money![/p][/quote]Ouch, yesterday is till sore isn't is. I remember the buzz of walking up Wembley way on cup final day and seeing us lift the cup. Even if we play in Gosport and Fareham Sunday league no one can take that from us. Surprised you didn't ty to win something before your owner flogs your talent and club as she hates football.[/p][/quote]Ouch, yesterday is till sore isn't is. Can you remember what round you went out in this season, was it last year? we lose for the first time in 9 games and you come on here giving it large, is it because you have gone a whole 2 games without losing, no wonder the rest of the football league despise you and think you are a bad joke Folkestone Saint

2:07pm Sun 16 Feb 14

bluewhiteandred says...

doos wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
doos wrote:
Enjoy the draw today!!

I'm sure missing out on Wembley and not winning the cup will feel better when you finish 8th. Maybe an open top bus round Southampton holding a big 8!!!??? and then you could put the big 8 in your trophy cabinet next to the paint pot cup.

Southampton yawn! No ambition.
it will feel so much better than a relegation dog fight and the risk of dropping out of the football league. perhaps if you stay up you could go on an open top bus round poopey holding up a big list of debtors and charities/companies your club have done over. you could invite all the nurses and other public sector workers who have been made redundant because you never paid the millions in tax you owed. then you could put a bid pound sign in front of your fa cup to remind everyone that your still trying not to pay for it! poopey yawn no morals and no money!
Ouch, yesterday is till sore isn't is.

I remember the buzz of walking up Wembley way on cup final day and seeing us lift the cup. Even if we play in Gosport and Fareham Sunday league no one can take that from us. Surprised you didn't ty to win something before your owner flogs your talent and club as she hates football.
Typical Saints fans your In financial trouble and in administration SAINTS FANS DO NOTHING ! Marcus comes along WE ARE OK .
The FA cup and Capital cup is in danger because of lack of interest because of top stars are being rested and Crowds drop SAINTS FANS DO NOTHING ! Well perhaps you don't care you don't want to win anything.
I despair your more interested if Pompey go out of the league are SAINTS fans football lovers .
[quote][p][bold]doos[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doos[/bold] wrote: Enjoy the draw today!! I'm sure missing out on Wembley and not winning the cup will feel better when you finish 8th. Maybe an open top bus round Southampton holding a big 8!!!??? and then you could put the big 8 in your trophy cabinet next to the paint pot cup. Southampton yawn! No ambition.[/p][/quote]it will feel so much better than a relegation dog fight and the risk of dropping out of the football league. perhaps if you stay up you could go on an open top bus round poopey holding up a big list of debtors and charities/companies your club have done over. you could invite all the nurses and other public sector workers who have been made redundant because you never paid the millions in tax you owed. then you could put a bid pound sign in front of your fa cup to remind everyone that your still trying not to pay for it! poopey yawn no morals and no money![/p][/quote]Ouch, yesterday is till sore isn't is. I remember the buzz of walking up Wembley way on cup final day and seeing us lift the cup. Even if we play in Gosport and Fareham Sunday league no one can take that from us. Surprised you didn't ty to win something before your owner flogs your talent and club as she hates football.[/p][/quote]Typical Saints fans your In financial trouble and in administration SAINTS FANS DO NOTHING ! Marcus comes along WE ARE OK . The FA cup and Capital cup is in danger because of lack of interest because of top stars are being rested and Crowds drop SAINTS FANS DO NOTHING ! Well perhaps you don't care you don't want to win anything. I despair your more interested if Pompey go out of the league are SAINTS fans football lovers . bluewhiteandred

2:12pm Sun 16 Feb 14

BracknellSaint says...

doos wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
doos wrote:
Enjoy the draw today!!

I'm sure missing out on Wembley and not winning the cup will feel better when you finish 8th. Maybe an open top bus round Southampton holding a big 8!!!??? and then you could put the big 8 in your trophy cabinet next to the paint pot cup.

Southampton yawn! No ambition.
it will feel so much better than a relegation dog fight and the risk of dropping out of the football league. perhaps if you stay up you could go on an open top bus round poopey holding up a big list of debtors and charities/companies your club have done over. you could invite all the nurses and other public sector workers who have been made redundant because you never paid the millions in tax you owed. then you could put a bid pound sign in front of your fa cup to remind everyone that your still trying not to pay for it! poopey yawn no morals and no money!
Ouch, yesterday is till sore isn't is.

I remember the buzz of walking up Wembley way on cup final day and seeing us lift the cup. Even if we play in Gosport and Fareham Sunday league no one can take that from us. Surprised you didn't ty to win something before your owner flogs your talent and club as she hates football.
That's where we differ I suppose.. You're happy to have a very very brief spell of being among the big boys, and loving the trophy you got for beating the ( then) minnows of Cardiff, but when you played a proper team, you lost to Chelsea( as we did to Arsenal) whereas I love that for 30 odd years of the last 40, we've been in the big boys league, and most of my 38 years looking down on our little neighbours in the lower leagues.In terms of the past you lot always harp on about, Wanderers from London won 6 cups, and Old Etonians and Royal Engineers also have two triumphs each, so what does history mean? So when you're playing Fareham, we'll be playing Chelsea or Man Utd etc, and even wanting to check out how you're getting in, most websites, or Sky News etc won't be any use as they don't go that far down in their coverage..it's bad enough now trying to find out how your park football level club is doing, so can't begin to imagine how awful it's going to get for you...
[quote][p][bold]doos[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doos[/bold] wrote: Enjoy the draw today!! I'm sure missing out on Wembley and not winning the cup will feel better when you finish 8th. Maybe an open top bus round Southampton holding a big 8!!!??? and then you could put the big 8 in your trophy cabinet next to the paint pot cup. Southampton yawn! No ambition.[/p][/quote]it will feel so much better than a relegation dog fight and the risk of dropping out of the football league. perhaps if you stay up you could go on an open top bus round poopey holding up a big list of debtors and charities/companies your club have done over. you could invite all the nurses and other public sector workers who have been made redundant because you never paid the millions in tax you owed. then you could put a bid pound sign in front of your fa cup to remind everyone that your still trying not to pay for it! poopey yawn no morals and no money![/p][/quote]Ouch, yesterday is till sore isn't is. I remember the buzz of walking up Wembley way on cup final day and seeing us lift the cup. Even if we play in Gosport and Fareham Sunday league no one can take that from us. Surprised you didn't ty to win something before your owner flogs your talent and club as she hates football.[/p][/quote]That's where we differ I suppose.. You're happy to have a very very brief spell of being among the big boys, and loving the trophy you got for beating the ( then) minnows of Cardiff, but when you played a proper team, you lost to Chelsea( as we did to Arsenal) whereas I love that for 30 odd years of the last 40, we've been in the big boys league, and most of my 38 years looking down on our little neighbours in the lower leagues.In terms of the past you lot always harp on about, Wanderers from London won 6 cups, and Old Etonians and Royal Engineers also have two triumphs each, so what does history mean? So when you're playing Fareham, we'll be playing Chelsea or Man Utd etc, and even wanting to check out how you're getting in, most websites, or Sky News etc won't be any use as they don't go that far down in their coverage..it's bad enough now trying to find out how your park football level club is doing, so can't begin to imagine how awful it's going to get for you... BracknellSaint

2:17pm Sun 16 Feb 14

bluewhiteandred says...

Simmo13 wrote:
pompey in spain wrote:
you took 800 fans today,disgraceful...


.no passion...joke of a club.was worth having that bbq tonite,oh yeah we won today btw.
Yes beating the mighty Wimbledon do us a favour and by the as a loyal supporter of nobodies how many games have you been to this season inbred ?
Wimbledon fans took 1999 to FB you mock the Dons they are loyal and real football supporters how many Saints went to Sunderland well your all arm chair fans not the DONS and POMPEY.
[quote][p][bold]Simmo13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pompey in spain[/bold] wrote: you took 800 fans today,disgraceful... .no passion...joke of a club.was worth having that bbq tonite,oh yeah we won today btw.[/p][/quote]Yes beating the mighty Wimbledon do us a favour and by the as a loyal supporter of nobodies how many games have you been to this season inbred ?[/p][/quote]Wimbledon fans took 1999 to FB you mock the Dons they are loyal and real football supporters how many Saints went to Sunderland well your all arm chair fans not the DONS and POMPEY. bluewhiteandred

2:20pm Sun 16 Feb 14

bluewhiteandred says...

bluewhiteandred wrote:
Simmo13 wrote:
pompey in spain wrote:
you took 800 fans today,disgraceful...



.no passion...joke of a club.was worth having that bbq tonite,oh yeah we won today btw.
Yes beating the mighty Wimbledon do us a favour and by the as a loyal supporter of nobodies how many games have you been to this season inbred ?
Wimbledon fans took 1999 to FB you mock the Dons they are loyal and real football supporters how many Saints went to Sunderland well your all arm chair fans not the DONS and POMPEY.
FRATTON PARK
[quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simmo13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pompey in spain[/bold] wrote: you took 800 fans today,disgraceful... .no passion...joke of a club.was worth having that bbq tonite,oh yeah we won today btw.[/p][/quote]Yes beating the mighty Wimbledon do us a favour and by the as a loyal supporter of nobodies how many games have you been to this season inbred ?[/p][/quote]Wimbledon fans took 1999 to FB you mock the Dons they are loyal and real football supporters how many Saints went to Sunderland well your all arm chair fans not the DONS and POMPEY.[/p][/quote]FRATTON PARK bluewhiteandred

2:25pm Sun 16 Feb 14

BracknellSaint says...

bluewhiteandred wrote:
Simmo13 wrote:
pompey in spain wrote:
you took 800 fans today,disgraceful...



.no passion...joke of a club.was worth having that bbq tonite,oh yeah we won today btw.
Yes beating the mighty Wimbledon do us a favour and by the as a loyal supporter of nobodies how many games have you been to this season inbred ?
Wimbledon fans took 1999 to FB you mock the Dons they are loyal and real football supporters how many Saints went to Sunderland well your all arm chair fans not the DONS and POMPEY.
70 miles...
[quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simmo13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pompey in spain[/bold] wrote: you took 800 fans today,disgraceful... .no passion...joke of a club.was worth having that bbq tonite,oh yeah we won today btw.[/p][/quote]Yes beating the mighty Wimbledon do us a favour and by the as a loyal supporter of nobodies how many games have you been to this season inbred ?[/p][/quote]Wimbledon fans took 1999 to FB you mock the Dons they are loyal and real football supporters how many Saints went to Sunderland well your all arm chair fans not the DONS and POMPEY.[/p][/quote]70 miles... BracknellSaint

2:26pm Sun 16 Feb 14

bluewhiteandred says...

Dons have won more than SAINTS must look .
Dons have won more than SAINTS must look . bluewhiteandred

2:29pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Egomaniac says...

miltonarcher wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
Saint. wrote:
I as any other Saints fan is annoyed and sadden to go out, but shame on many of you, and slightly shortsighted too. You over look many things and many sound like those stupid commentators who think and want Saints to be a small club and had so much crap about what Saints should of done, and you come on here and regurgitate it!

Firstly respect to all those travelling fans for travelling all that way, for an early start and in those dangerous conditions! TOTAL RESPECT!

Points to think may be....

1 MP clearly loves his back room staff and they have brought this club up to play high pressured game, which is exciting to watching and out playing most teams we've played, even if we didn't collect all the points! On that I think MP shares everything with his team and brings them to the forefront for cup games! what's wrong with that?

2 I appreciate our standard of game is so high now, but do the moaning Saints fans really think we deserve to win every single game? Which team does? Even in one cup competitions which was slowly opening up for us to win!

3 simply the pitch was awful! The conditions were hideous to play in too!

4 It was only one blistering pot luck shot that caught the wind and that beat a second choice goalie, who was slightly out of positions in the first place!

5 Despite the changes the experience players did not have a great game either! Lambert, Lallana and Davis who have been brilliant this season were slightly off in this game. It does happen and nothing to do with the changes!

6 the changes were of good quality anyway, and if your honest should of beaten Monkey boy!

7 Monkey boy has a hold on Saints, I think when he was a Brighton he must of paid a visit to a travelling gypsy of something.

8 Whose to say that playing our strongest side we would of won? On the day we would of still most likely lost by one goal. as mention many players were not having their best game anyway!

9 would all you moaners would of been happy if we played our best team, and say spider broke down and lost for a month or more. We have to trust MP to get our best players through the whole season!

10 For all those stupid half empty cup supporters who also listen to all that crap on the TV from the commentators! NEWSFLASH! Southampton FC still very much to play for this season! Look at the league! We are best placed to hit higher places!! We have a good run of games coming, and the higher we go the more money this club gets!! We can still make Europe even if the pundits what all TV viewers to think this small coastal club is punching above its weight and all should think we will be lucky to finish 9th. Perfected statement ! Now with this cup exit I would expect MP to win as many games in hopefully better weather condition and throw Southampton FC to six or above. It's with in our hands and we are only a few points behind, and is the only course Saints must apply if our development to winning this league in sometime in the near future.

11 the higher we are the better the player we can attract in the summer!!

Come on don't listen to so called TV pundits who know nothing and easy to think us as a small club that just makes up the numbers!

We have the BEST manager! We have the best TEAM spirit! We have the best way of of PLAYING football! We have the BEST club!

Finish high in the league as possibly, and buy some top quality players in the summer. Southampton cup is half full!
My view all along. Extremely well set out argument, and gets full marks from me.

Well done saint!
I take it you are being ironic? That post is full of drivel. And perhaps more annoying is the use of, of instead of have. Example, I could of, which is nonsense, try I could have next time.
No, I am quite serious in my support of Saint's comments.

You should also be aware that I do not comment on contributors' stander of English or grammar, which I think is somewhat disrespectful. Would we could all be perfect like yourself ………………
!!
[quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint.[/bold] wrote: I as any other Saints fan is annoyed and sadden to go out, but shame on many of you, and slightly shortsighted too. You over look many things and many sound like those stupid commentators who think and want Saints to be a small club and had so much crap about what Saints should of done, and you come on here and regurgitate it! Firstly respect to all those travelling fans for travelling all that way, for an early start and in those dangerous conditions! TOTAL RESPECT! Points to think may be.... 1 MP clearly loves his back room staff and they have brought this club up to play high pressured game, which is exciting to watching and out playing most teams we've played, even if we didn't collect all the points! On that I think MP shares everything with his team and brings them to the forefront for cup games! what's wrong with that? 2 I appreciate our standard of game is so high now, but do the moaning Saints fans really think we deserve to win every single game? Which team does? Even in one cup competitions which was slowly opening up for us to win! 3 simply the pitch was awful! The conditions were hideous to play in too! 4 It was only one blistering pot luck shot that caught the wind and that beat a second choice goalie, who was slightly out of positions in the first place! 5 Despite the changes the experience players did not have a great game either! Lambert, Lallana and Davis who have been brilliant this season were slightly off in this game. It does happen and nothing to do with the changes! 6 the changes were of good quality anyway, and if your honest should of beaten Monkey boy! 7 Monkey boy has a hold on Saints, I think when he was a Brighton he must of paid a visit to a travelling gypsy of something. 8 Whose to say that playing our strongest side we would of won? On the day we would of still most likely lost by one goal. as mention many players were not having their best game anyway! 9 would all you moaners would of been happy if we played our best team, and say spider broke down and lost for a month or more. We have to trust MP to get our best players through the whole season! 10 For all those stupid half empty cup supporters who also listen to all that crap on the TV from the commentators! NEWSFLASH! Southampton FC still very much to play for this season! Look at the league! We are best placed to hit higher places!! We have a good run of games coming, and the higher we go the more money this club gets!! We can still make Europe even if the pundits what all TV viewers to think this small coastal club is punching above its weight and all should think we will be lucky to finish 9th. Perfected statement ! Now with this cup exit I would expect MP to win as many games in hopefully better weather condition and throw Southampton FC to six or above. It's with in our hands and we are only a few points behind, and is the only course Saints must apply if our development to winning this league in sometime in the near future. 11 the higher we are the better the player we can attract in the summer!! Come on don't listen to so called TV pundits who know nothing and easy to think us as a small club that just makes up the numbers! We have the BEST manager! We have the best TEAM spirit! We have the best way of of PLAYING football! We have the BEST club! Finish high in the league as possibly, and buy some top quality players in the summer. Southampton cup is half full![/p][/quote]My view all along. Extremely well set out argument, and gets full marks from me. Well done saint![/p][/quote]I take it you are being ironic? That post is full of drivel. And perhaps more annoying is the use of, of instead of have. Example, I could of, which is nonsense, try I could have next time.[/p][/quote]No, I am quite serious in my support of Saint's comments. You should also be aware that I do not comment on contributors' stander of English or grammar, which I think is somewhat disrespectful. Would we could all be perfect like yourself ……………… !! Egomaniac

2:37pm Sun 16 Feb 14

el caballo santos101 says...

SWAYTHLING SAINT wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Does anyone else find it bizarre that the assistant manager takes charge for cup games....
Just can't get my head around that one.
As soon as the team was announced I got a few €'s on a home win, easiest money I'll ever make... we lost before a ball was kicked.
Before today I was thinking that we could.possibly finish above Man Utd in the league, not really sure that the club has any intention to attempt this now.

One positive to take from today is that Osprey does not comment on here anymore.
well that's the right attitude, defeatist from the start.
I don't know any saints fan who would bet real money on the team losing! it wasn't the easiest money you have ever made though was it, if SRL, a player that no doubt you would have wanted on the team sheet, had scored that chance then you would have lost your money. well at least you've made a few quid out of picking your team to lose!
why you think that because of a very poor cup performance that the club no longer wants to push as high up the league as they can is beyond me. I suppose you will be trying to make a bit more money out of wanting saints to lose?
nice to see that your delighted that osprey has decided that he no longer wants to post any longer and that you take that as a positive from todays defeat (I really don't get the connection). again what a great supporter you must be, glad we lost so that a person you have never met no longer joins in on these forums, probably because he has different opinions to you. osprey is a harmless old, sorry osprey, geezer who uses these forums to show his support for the whole team and club and as a way of contacting other fans.
don't stop posting osprey, I may not always like everything you post, but you are often amusing and that's fine by me. anyway if posters like you, who are here regardless of the result disappeared, who would be here when we win? most of the moaners never turn up unless we lose.
as bad as we were, and we were bad, I still cant get my head around a saints fan betting on us to lose. must have been delighted when SRL put the ball over. well I suppose it must be a nice feeling knowing you've got a bit more money in your pocket!
I've had enough lectures questioning mine and many other fans about their level of loyalty to The Saints from Osprey to last me a lifetime, don't really need another from you thank you.
You see 101. i am a realist, I'd already picked up on the fact that MP did not want to take part in the Europa league and therefore would not make any real attempt to win this game.
I am a believer that you have to do your best in everything you attempt, with today' s team selection our management failed us, their nonchalant approach to the game rubbed off on the players I'm afraid and the result was inevitable.
Only in my humble opinion of course.
firstly costa I never questioned yours or any others `loyalty` what I said was that I don't know any saints fan that would bet real money on his own team losing, and I stand by that! you see I don't know you.
so you see the selected team and instantly think that that team is not good enough to beat any blunderland team? `I am a realist`? always a strange comment from anyone, so do you think that fans like me who thought that the team should have been able to beat blunderland are dreamers? let me remind you that the team selected had mainly first team starters, some coming back from injury and who need game time.
its ok to say that the management failed us with the team selection but you don't mention which players you would have dropped or picked.
as for the result being `inevitable` really? was it? so one long range great but a bit lucky shot against jwp`s chance lalla`s chance, or SRL`s chance? no we had enough chances to win and they went to our `first teamers` who you would have picked. simple thing is we played badly, really badly it happens.
I cant understand why anyone is saying that MP `threw` yesterdays game because he didn't want to win the cup and so get into Europe. people seem to forget the burnley game, that would have been the perfect game if MP really wanted to get knocked out of the cup.
so come on costa, what about yesterdays team selection made you want to put money on your own team losing? you cant have fonte starting as his leg was badly cut up during the hull game, he would have come on if really needed but why risk injuring him further?
Costa Gaz and Co are completely right. What gives you, ospreysaint and strasbourg the right to start questioning how much of a Saints fan a poster is. It comes off as childish and a little spiteful. Have your say and the rest of us will have our say, if you don't agree say so in a polite fashion. The thread is ruined by a few who think they are judge and jury. And looking at the thumbs down on posts, it's plain to see who the culprits are. This is a thread so Saints fans can have their say, even if they are not always positive. Grow up!
first line,
costa I never questioned yours or any others `loyalty`!
did you not see that? or did you choose to ignore it in order to make a false impression of what I said.
all I said is, again I stand by this, I don't know any saints fan who would bet money on the team losing. do you? I never questioned anyone or said that I don't think costa is a fan, in fact I`m almost 100% sure he is, but again as I said I don't know him so my original statement stands. all I did was question why a saints fan would want to bet that his team would lose after seeing a team sheet, a team sheet that included mostly first team starters. I would never put money on saints losing, I wish I had when lowe was here as I would have made a fortune, to me its a defeatist attitude and I always believe that we will win, if that makes me a `dreamer` and a `non-realist` then so be it. what is wrong with believing we will win anyway? whats wrong with seeing yesterdays team sheet and thinking that there is an opportunity for a few players to force their way back into the first team? clyne, Big Vic, JWP, even hoover had a chance to prove he is a better option than Yoshi whilst dejan is injured, and yes despite several of the usual suspects trying to blame guly for the defeat he had the chance to prove he is an option on the bench. I am obviously wrong though and should think that these players are awful and will lose any game they are picked for.
as for this thread being `ruined` by a few who think they are judge and jury, what the hell are you doing to me? if you read any of my posts you will see that I am always `polite` when making my views and never call anyone names like `spiteful` or `childish` or even tell people to `grow up`, I`m even mostly polite to the blue few who try to wreck these threads!
I take it that osprey stras and I are no longer allowed to air our views if they disagree with the masses, the same masses who are never on here when we win..

sorry if I have `ruined` these threads for anyone but I thought debate and sometimes a little argument were a good thing. don't worry I wont be a glass half full type anymore and will only now post negative opinions on here when we lose, and will be upset and angry about the club, management, owners, players, team selection and decisions.
[quote][p][bold]SWAYTHLING SAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Does anyone else find it bizarre that the assistant manager takes charge for cup games.... Just can't get my head around that one. As soon as the team was announced I got a few €'s on a home win, easiest money I'll ever make... we lost before a ball was kicked. Before today I was thinking that we could.possibly finish above Man Utd in the league, not really sure that the club has any intention to attempt this now. One positive to take from today is that Osprey does not comment on here anymore.[/p][/quote]well that's the right attitude, defeatist from the start. I don't know any saints fan who would bet real money on the team losing! it wasn't the easiest money you have ever made though was it, if SRL, a player that no doubt you would have wanted on the team sheet, had scored that chance then you would have lost your money. well at least you've made a few quid out of picking your team to lose! why you think that because of a very poor cup performance that the club no longer wants to push as high up the league as they can is beyond me. I suppose you will be trying to make a bit more money out of wanting saints to lose? nice to see that your delighted that osprey has decided that he no longer wants to post any longer and that you take that as a positive from todays defeat (I really don't get the connection). again what a great supporter you must be, glad we lost so that a person you have never met no longer joins in on these forums, probably because he has different opinions to you. osprey is a harmless old, sorry osprey, geezer who uses these forums to show his support for the whole team and club and as a way of contacting other fans. don't stop posting osprey, I may not always like everything you post, but you are often amusing and that's fine by me. anyway if posters like you, who are here regardless of the result disappeared, who would be here when we win? most of the moaners never turn up unless we lose. as bad as we were, and we were bad, I still cant get my head around a saints fan betting on us to lose. must have been delighted when SRL put the ball over. well I suppose it must be a nice feeling knowing you've got a bit more money in your pocket![/p][/quote]I've had enough lectures questioning mine and many other fans about their level of loyalty to The Saints from Osprey to last me a lifetime, don't really need another from you thank you. You see 101. i am a realist, I'd already picked up on the fact that MP did not want to take part in the Europa league and therefore would not make any real attempt to win this game. I am a believer that you have to do your best in everything you attempt, with today' s team selection our management failed us, their nonchalant approach to the game rubbed off on the players I'm afraid and the result was inevitable. Only in my humble opinion of course.[/p][/quote]firstly costa I never questioned yours or any others `loyalty` what I said was that I don't know any saints fan that would bet real money on his own team losing, and I stand by that! you see I don't know you. so you see the selected team and instantly think that that team is not good enough to beat any blunderland team? `I am a realist`? always a strange comment from anyone, so do you think that fans like me who thought that the team should have been able to beat blunderland are dreamers? let me remind you that the team selected had mainly first team starters, some coming back from injury and who need game time. its ok to say that the management failed us with the team selection but you don't mention which players you would have dropped or picked. as for the result being `inevitable` really? was it? so one long range great but a bit lucky shot against jwp`s chance lalla`s chance, or SRL`s chance? no we had enough chances to win and they went to our `first teamers` who you would have picked. simple thing is we played badly, really badly it happens. I cant understand why anyone is saying that MP `threw` yesterdays game because he didn't want to win the cup and so get into Europe. people seem to forget the burnley game, that would have been the perfect game if MP really wanted to get knocked out of the cup. so come on costa, what about yesterdays team selection made you want to put money on your own team losing? you cant have fonte starting as his leg was badly cut up during the hull game, he would have come on if really needed but why risk injuring him further?[/p][/quote]Costa Gaz and Co are completely right. What gives you, ospreysaint and strasbourg the right to start questioning how much of a Saints fan a poster is. It comes off as childish and a little spiteful. Have your say and the rest of us will have our say, if you don't agree say so in a polite fashion. The thread is ruined by a few who think they are judge and jury. And looking at the thumbs down on posts, it's plain to see who the culprits are. This is a thread so Saints fans can have their say, even if they are not always positive. Grow up![/p][/quote]first line, costa I never questioned yours or any others `loyalty`! did you not see that? or did you choose to ignore it in order to make a false impression of what I said. all I said is, again I stand by this, I don't know any saints fan who would bet money on the team losing. do you? I never questioned anyone or said that I don't think costa is a fan, in fact I`m almost 100% sure he is, but again as I said I don't know him so my original statement stands. all I did was question why a saints fan would want to bet that his team would lose after seeing a team sheet, a team sheet that included mostly first team starters. I would never put money on saints losing, I wish I had when lowe was here as I would have made a fortune, to me its a defeatist attitude and I always believe that we will win, if that makes me a `dreamer` and a `non-realist` then so be it. what is wrong with believing we will win anyway? whats wrong with seeing yesterdays team sheet and thinking that there is an opportunity for a few players to force their way back into the first team? clyne, Big Vic, JWP, even hoover had a chance to prove he is a better option than Yoshi whilst dejan is injured, and yes despite several of the usual suspects trying to blame guly for the defeat he had the chance to prove he is an option on the bench. I am obviously wrong though and should think that these players are awful and will lose any game they are picked for. as for this thread being `ruined` by a few who think they are judge and jury, what the hell are you doing to me? if you read any of my posts you will see that I am always `polite` when making my views and never call anyone names like `spiteful` or `childish` or even tell people to `grow up`, I`m even mostly polite to the blue few who try to wreck these threads! I take it that osprey stras and I are no longer allowed to air our views if they disagree with the masses, the same masses who are never on here when we win.. sorry if I have `ruined` these threads for anyone but I thought debate and sometimes a little argument were a good thing. don't worry I wont be a glass half full type anymore and will only now post negative opinions on here when we lose, and will be upset and angry about the club, management, owners, players, team selection and decisions. el caballo santos101

2:38pm Sun 16 Feb 14

lymicherry says...

Amid all the hand-wringing over team selection, some Saints fans appear to be ignoring the inconvenient truth that Sunderland rotated their squad even more radically... and still won. Just accept that the better (or less bad) side won on the day. What cannot be denied is that Southampton at full strength are a mightily impressive outfit these days.
Amid all the hand-wringing over team selection, some Saints fans appear to be ignoring the inconvenient truth that Sunderland rotated their squad even more radically... and still won. Just accept that the better (or less bad) side won on the day. What cannot be denied is that Southampton at full strength are a mightily impressive outfit these days. lymicherry

2:56pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Egomaniac says...

lymicherry wrote:
Amid all the hand-wringing over team selection, some Saints fans appear to be ignoring the inconvenient truth that Sunderland rotated their squad even more radically... and still won. Just accept that the better (or less bad) side won on the day. What cannot be denied is that Southampton at full strength are a mightily impressive outfit these days.
Yep! That summit all up very nicely!
[quote][p][bold]lymicherry[/bold] wrote: Amid all the hand-wringing over team selection, some Saints fans appear to be ignoring the inconvenient truth that Sunderland rotated their squad even more radically... and still won. Just accept that the better (or less bad) side won on the day. What cannot be denied is that Southampton at full strength are a mightily impressive outfit these days.[/p][/quote]Yep! That summit all up very nicely! Egomaniac

2:59pm Sun 16 Feb 14

el caballo santos101 says...

SWAYTHLING SAINT wrote:
Well all the Guly fans got their wish and the maestro didn't deliver, as per usual. Shame we still don't have Danny Fox, he would have looked top draw today.
I was quiet on this post as I didn't think it was worthy of a response, but since you had a dig at me for `ruining these threads` can you explain how this post improves the threads? also who are the guly fans? and what was their `wish`?
come on then explain to us all why yesterdays poor performance was gulys fault.
don't forget to add danny fox to your explanation as you clearly think that had he been playing yesterday we would have been so much worse!
[quote][p][bold]SWAYTHLING SAINT[/bold] wrote: Well all the Guly fans got their wish and the maestro didn't deliver, as per usual. Shame we still don't have Danny Fox, he would have looked top draw today.[/p][/quote]I was quiet on this post as I didn't think it was worthy of a response, but since you had a dig at me for `ruining these threads` can you explain how this post improves the threads? also who are the guly fans? and what was their `wish`? come on then explain to us all why yesterdays poor performance was gulys fault. don't forget to add danny fox to your explanation as you clearly think that had he been playing yesterday we would have been so much worse! el caballo santos101

3:41pm Sun 16 Feb 14

mr miyagi says...

Brighton or Hull away for Sunderland makes the defeat feel even worse. Best chance since 2003 to get to the semis.
Brighton or Hull away for Sunderland makes the defeat feel even worse. Best chance since 2003 to get to the semis. mr miyagi

3:43pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Rising_Son says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
SWAYTHLING SAINT wrote:
Well all the Guly fans got their wish and the maestro didn't deliver, as per usual. Shame we still don't have Danny Fox, he would have looked top draw today.
I was quiet on this post as I didn't think it was worthy of a response, but since you had a dig at me for `ruining these threads` can you explain how this post improves the threads? also who are the guly fans? and what was their `wish`?
come on then explain to us all why yesterdays poor performance was gulys fault.
don't forget to add danny fox to your explanation as you clearly think that had he been playing yesterday we would have been so much worse!
Horse, I would like to agree with you but that might prove provocative, so I'll refrain.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SWAYTHLING SAINT[/bold] wrote: Well all the Guly fans got their wish and the maestro didn't deliver, as per usual. Shame we still don't have Danny Fox, he would have looked top draw today.[/p][/quote]I was quiet on this post as I didn't think it was worthy of a response, but since you had a dig at me for `ruining these threads` can you explain how this post improves the threads? also who are the guly fans? and what was their `wish`? come on then explain to us all why yesterdays poor performance was gulys fault. don't forget to add danny fox to your explanation as you clearly think that had he been playing yesterday we would have been so much worse![/p][/quote]Horse, I would like to agree with you but that might prove provocative, so I'll refrain. Rising_Son

3:54pm Sun 16 Feb 14

WobblyCat says...

Saint. wrote:
I as any other Saints fan is annoyed and sadden to go out, but shame on many of you, and slightly shortsighted too. You over look many things and many sound like those stupid commentators who think and want Saints to be a small club and had so much crap about what Saints should of done, and you come on here and regurgitate it!

Firstly respect to all those travelling fans for travelling all that way, for an early start and in those dangerous conditions! TOTAL RESPECT!

Points to think may be....

1 MP clearly loves his back room staff and they have brought this club up to play high pressured game, which is exciting to watching and out playing most teams we've played, even if we didn't collect all the points! On that I think MP shares everything with his team and brings them to the forefront for cup games! what's wrong with that?

2 I appreciate our standard of game is so high now, but do the moaning Saints fans really think we deserve to win every single game? Which team does? Even in one cup competitions which was slowly opening up for us to win!

3 simply the pitch was awful! The conditions were hideous to play in too!

4 It was only one blistering pot luck shot that caught the wind and that beat a second choice goalie, who was slightly out of positions in the first place!

5 Despite the changes the experience players did not have a great game either! Lambert, Lallana and Davis who have been brilliant this season were slightly off in this game. It does happen and nothing to do with the changes!

6 the changes were of good quality anyway, and if your honest should of beaten Monkey boy!

7 Monkey boy has a hold on Saints, I think when he was a Brighton he must of paid a visit to a travelling gypsy of something.

8 Whose to say that playing our strongest side we would of won? On the day we would of still most likely lost by one goal. as mention many players were not having their best game anyway!

9 would all you moaners would of been happy if we played our best team, and say spider broke down and lost for a month or more. We have to trust MP to get our best players through the whole season!

10 For all those stupid half empty cup supporters who also listen to all that crap on the TV from the commentators! NEWSFLASH! Southampton FC still very much to play for this season! Look at the league! We are best placed to hit higher places!! We have a good run of games coming, and the higher we go the more money this club gets!! We can still make Europe even if the pundits what all TV viewers to think this small coastal club is punching above its weight and all should think we will be lucky to finish 9th. Perfected statement ! Now with this cup exit I would expect MP to win as many games in hopefully better weather condition and throw Southampton FC to six or above. It's with in our hands and we are only a few points behind, and is the only course Saints must apply if our development to winning this league in sometime in the near future.

11 the higher we are the better the player we can attract in the summer!!

Come on don't listen to so called TV pundits who know nothing and easy to think us as a small club that just makes up the numbers!

We have the BEST manager! We have the best TEAM spirit! We have the best way of of PLAYING football! We have the BEST club!

Finish high in the league as possibly, and buy some top quality players in the summer. Southampton cup is half full!
Do they use exploding footballs in fa cup ties! All of a sudden players are 3 times more likely to break a leg in the fa cup! The suggestion that we would have probably still lost by one goal if we had played our strongest side beggars belief and I'd be interested to know who we are likely to attract finishing 7th that we wouldn't if we finished 8th! Hopefully we will finish top 7 now our best players have avoided the near death of an fa cup tie.
[quote][p][bold]Saint.[/bold] wrote: I as any other Saints fan is annoyed and sadden to go out, but shame on many of you, and slightly shortsighted too. You over look many things and many sound like those stupid commentators who think and want Saints to be a small club and had so much crap about what Saints should of done, and you come on here and regurgitate it! Firstly respect to all those travelling fans for travelling all that way, for an early start and in those dangerous conditions! TOTAL RESPECT! Points to think may be.... 1 MP clearly loves his back room staff and they have brought this club up to play high pressured game, which is exciting to watching and out playing most teams we've played, even if we didn't collect all the points! On that I think MP shares everything with his team and brings them to the forefront for cup games! what's wrong with that? 2 I appreciate our standard of game is so high now, but do the moaning Saints fans really think we deserve to win every single game? Which team does? Even in one cup competitions which was slowly opening up for us to win! 3 simply the pitch was awful! The conditions were hideous to play in too! 4 It was only one blistering pot luck shot that caught the wind and that beat a second choice goalie, who was slightly out of positions in the first place! 5 Despite the changes the experience players did not have a great game either! Lambert, Lallana and Davis who have been brilliant this season were slightly off in this game. It does happen and nothing to do with the changes! 6 the changes were of good quality anyway, and if your honest should of beaten Monkey boy! 7 Monkey boy has a hold on Saints, I think when he was a Brighton he must of paid a visit to a travelling gypsy of something. 8 Whose to say that playing our strongest side we would of won? On the day we would of still most likely lost by one goal. as mention many players were not having their best game anyway! 9 would all you moaners would of been happy if we played our best team, and say spider broke down and lost for a month or more. We have to trust MP to get our best players through the whole season! 10 For all those stupid half empty cup supporters who also listen to all that crap on the TV from the commentators! NEWSFLASH! Southampton FC still very much to play for this season! Look at the league! We are best placed to hit higher places!! We have a good run of games coming, and the higher we go the more money this club gets!! We can still make Europe even if the pundits what all TV viewers to think this small coastal club is punching above its weight and all should think we will be lucky to finish 9th. Perfected statement ! Now with this cup exit I would expect MP to win as many games in hopefully better weather condition and throw Southampton FC to six or above. It's with in our hands and we are only a few points behind, and is the only course Saints must apply if our development to winning this league in sometime in the near future. 11 the higher we are the better the player we can attract in the summer!! Come on don't listen to so called TV pundits who know nothing and easy to think us as a small club that just makes up the numbers! We have the BEST manager! We have the best TEAM spirit! We have the best way of of PLAYING football! We have the BEST club! Finish high in the league as possibly, and buy some top quality players in the summer. Southampton cup is half full![/p][/quote]Do they use exploding footballs in fa cup ties! All of a sudden players are 3 times more likely to break a leg in the fa cup! The suggestion that we would have probably still lost by one goal if we had played our strongest side beggars belief and I'd be interested to know who we are likely to attract finishing 7th that we wouldn't if we finished 8th! Hopefully we will finish top 7 now our best players have avoided the near death of an fa cup tie. WobblyCat

4:08pm Sun 16 Feb 14

george chivers says...

The team was selected and tactically changed, ie not playing a high back four or pressing the ball from the front all the way back so we had a better chance of losing than winning. So improving our chances of not qualifying for the Europa Cup. It will be interesting to see if these tactics are repeated if we get into a league position or close to a league position that could qualify us for the Europa Cup. I think they will be.

The P&L, the balance sheet and the likelihood of the manager not getting sacked next season because of poor performances as a result of a depleted squad due to injuries and suspensions from playing in the Europa Cup rule, not the wishes of the emotional shareholders to win the FA Cup.
The team was selected and tactically changed, ie not playing a high back four or pressing the ball from the front all the way back so we had a better chance of losing than winning. So improving our chances of not qualifying for the Europa Cup. It will be interesting to see if these tactics are repeated if we get into a league position or close to a league position that could qualify us for the Europa Cup. I think they will be. The P&L, the balance sheet and the likelihood of the manager not getting sacked next season because of poor performances as a result of a depleted squad due to injuries and suspensions from playing in the Europa Cup rule, not the wishes of the emotional shareholders to win the FA Cup. george chivers

4:45pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

SWAYTHLING SAINT wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Does anyone else find it bizarre that the assistant manager takes charge for cup games....
Just can't get my head around that one.
As soon as the team was announced I got a few €'s on a home win, easiest money I'll ever make... we lost before a ball was kicked.
Before today I was thinking that we could.possibly finish above Man Utd in the league, not really sure that the club has any intention to attempt this now.

One positive to take from today is that Osprey does not comment on here anymore.
well that's the right attitude, defeatist from the start.
I don't know any saints fan who would bet real money on the team losing! it wasn't the easiest money you have ever made though was it, if SRL, a player that no doubt you would have wanted on the team sheet, had scored that chance then you would have lost your money. well at least you've made a few quid out of picking your team to lose!
why you think that because of a very poor cup performance that the club no longer wants to push as high up the league as they can is beyond me. I suppose you will be trying to make a bit more money out of wanting saints to lose?
nice to see that your delighted that osprey has decided that he no longer wants to post any longer and that you take that as a positive from todays defeat (I really don't get the connection). again what a great supporter you must be, glad we lost so that a person you have never met no longer joins in on these forums, probably because he has different opinions to you. osprey is a harmless old, sorry osprey, geezer who uses these forums to show his support for the whole team and club and as a way of contacting other fans.
don't stop posting osprey, I may not always like everything you post, but you are often amusing and that's fine by me. anyway if posters like you, who are here regardless of the result disappeared, who would be here when we win? most of the moaners never turn up unless we lose.
as bad as we were, and we were bad, I still cant get my head around a saints fan betting on us to lose. must have been delighted when SRL put the ball over. well I suppose it must be a nice feeling knowing you've got a bit more money in your pocket!
I've had enough lectures questioning mine and many other fans about their level of loyalty to The Saints from Osprey to last me a lifetime, don't really need another from you thank you.
You see 101. i am a realist, I'd already picked up on the fact that MP did not want to take part in the Europa league and therefore would not make any real attempt to win this game.
I am a believer that you have to do your best in everything you attempt, with today' s team selection our management failed us, their nonchalant approach to the game rubbed off on the players I'm afraid and the result was inevitable.
Only in my humble opinion of course.
firstly costa I never questioned yours or any others `loyalty` what I said was that I don't know any saints fan that would bet real money on his own team losing, and I stand by that! you see I don't know you.
so you see the selected team and instantly think that that team is not good enough to beat any blunderland team? `I am a realist`? always a strange comment from anyone, so do you think that fans like me who thought that the team should have been able to beat blunderland are dreamers? let me remind you that the team selected had mainly first team starters, some coming back from injury and who need game time.
its ok to say that the management failed us with the team selection but you don't mention which players you would have dropped or picked.
as for the result being `inevitable` really? was it? so one long range great but a bit lucky shot against jwp`s chance lalla`s chance, or SRL`s chance? no we had enough chances to win and they went to our `first teamers` who you would have picked. simple thing is we played badly, really badly it happens.
I cant understand why anyone is saying that MP `threw` yesterdays game because he didn't want to win the cup and so get into Europe. people seem to forget the burnley game, that would have been the perfect game if MP really wanted to get knocked out of the cup.
so come on costa, what about yesterdays team selection made you want to put money on your own team losing? you cant have fonte starting as his leg was badly cut up during the hull game, he would have come on if really needed but why risk injuring him further?
Costa Gaz and Co are completely right. What gives you, ospreysaint and strasbourg the right to start questioning how much of a Saints fan a poster is. It comes off as childish and a little spiteful. Have your say and the rest of us will have our say, if you don't agree say so in a polite fashion. The thread is ruined by a few who think they are judge and jury. And looking at the thumbs down on posts, it's plain to see who the culprits are. This is a thread so Saints fans can have their say, even if they are not always positive. Grow up!
WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YES I AM SHOUTING.

FIND ONE POST FROM ME THAT HAS EVER - I REPEAT - EVER - QUESTIONED HOW MUCH OF A SAINTS FAN ANY POSTER IS.

I AM NO ONE'S JUDGE OR JURY AND, UNLIKE YOUR JUDGMENTAL COMMENT HERE, HAVE NEVER JUDGED ANYONE.

BY ALL MEANS POST THINGS THAT MAKE ME SHAKE MY HEAD IN DISBELIEF BUT NEVER, EVER AGAIN MAKE FALSE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ME.
[quote][p][bold]SWAYTHLING SAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Does anyone else find it bizarre that the assistant manager takes charge for cup games.... Just can't get my head around that one. As soon as the team was announced I got a few €'s on a home win, easiest money I'll ever make... we lost before a ball was kicked. Before today I was thinking that we could.possibly finish above Man Utd in the league, not really sure that the club has any intention to attempt this now. One positive to take from today is that Osprey does not comment on here anymore.[/p][/quote]well that's the right attitude, defeatist from the start. I don't know any saints fan who would bet real money on the team losing! it wasn't the easiest money you have ever made though was it, if SRL, a player that no doubt you would have wanted on the team sheet, had scored that chance then you would have lost your money. well at least you've made a few quid out of picking your team to lose! why you think that because of a very poor cup performance that the club no longer wants to push as high up the league as they can is beyond me. I suppose you will be trying to make a bit more money out of wanting saints to lose? nice to see that your delighted that osprey has decided that he no longer wants to post any longer and that you take that as a positive from todays defeat (I really don't get the connection). again what a great supporter you must be, glad we lost so that a person you have never met no longer joins in on these forums, probably because he has different opinions to you. osprey is a harmless old, sorry osprey, geezer who uses these forums to show his support for the whole team and club and as a way of contacting other fans. don't stop posting osprey, I may not always like everything you post, but you are often amusing and that's fine by me. anyway if posters like you, who are here regardless of the result disappeared, who would be here when we win? most of the moaners never turn up unless we lose. as bad as we were, and we were bad, I still cant get my head around a saints fan betting on us to lose. must have been delighted when SRL put the ball over. well I suppose it must be a nice feeling knowing you've got a bit more money in your pocket![/p][/quote]I've had enough lectures questioning mine and many other fans about their level of loyalty to The Saints from Osprey to last me a lifetime, don't really need another from you thank you. You see 101. i am a realist, I'd already picked up on the fact that MP did not want to take part in the Europa league and therefore would not make any real attempt to win this game. I am a believer that you have to do your best in everything you attempt, with today' s team selection our management failed us, their nonchalant approach to the game rubbed off on the players I'm afraid and the result was inevitable. Only in my humble opinion of course.[/p][/quote]firstly costa I never questioned yours or any others `loyalty` what I said was that I don't know any saints fan that would bet real money on his own team losing, and I stand by that! you see I don't know you. so you see the selected team and instantly think that that team is not good enough to beat any blunderland team? `I am a realist`? always a strange comment from anyone, so do you think that fans like me who thought that the team should have been able to beat blunderland are dreamers? let me remind you that the team selected had mainly first team starters, some coming back from injury and who need game time. its ok to say that the management failed us with the team selection but you don't mention which players you would have dropped or picked. as for the result being `inevitable` really? was it? so one long range great but a bit lucky shot against jwp`s chance lalla`s chance, or SRL`s chance? no we had enough chances to win and they went to our `first teamers` who you would have picked. simple thing is we played badly, really badly it happens. I cant understand why anyone is saying that MP `threw` yesterdays game because he didn't want to win the cup and so get into Europe. people seem to forget the burnley game, that would have been the perfect game if MP really wanted to get knocked out of the cup. so come on costa, what about yesterdays team selection made you want to put money on your own team losing? you cant have fonte starting as his leg was badly cut up during the hull game, he would have come on if really needed but why risk injuring him further?[/p][/quote]Costa Gaz and Co are completely right. What gives you, ospreysaint and strasbourg the right to start questioning how much of a Saints fan a poster is. It comes off as childish and a little spiteful. Have your say and the rest of us will have our say, if you don't agree say so in a polite fashion. The thread is ruined by a few who think they are judge and jury. And looking at the thumbs down on posts, it's plain to see who the culprits are. This is a thread so Saints fans can have their say, even if they are not always positive. Grow up![/p][/quote]WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES I AM SHOUTING. FIND ONE POST FROM ME THAT HAS EVER - I REPEAT - EVER - QUESTIONED HOW MUCH OF A SAINTS FAN ANY POSTER IS. I AM NO ONE'S JUDGE OR JURY AND, UNLIKE YOUR JUDGMENTAL COMMENT HERE, HAVE NEVER JUDGED ANYONE. BY ALL MEANS POST THINGS THAT MAKE ME SHAKE MY HEAD IN DISBELIEF BUT NEVER, EVER AGAIN MAKE FALSE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ME. Strasbourg Saint

4:53pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Thornhill Saint says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
SWAYTHLING SAINT wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Does anyone else find it bizarre that the assistant manager takes charge for cup games....
Just can't get my head around that one.
As soon as the team was announced I got a few €'s on a home win, easiest money I'll ever make... we lost before a ball was kicked.
Before today I was thinking that we could.possibly finish above Man Utd in the league, not really sure that the club has any intention to attempt this now.

One positive to take from today is that Osprey does not comment on here anymore.
well that's the right attitude, defeatist from the start.
I don't know any saints fan who would bet real money on the team losing! it wasn't the easiest money you have ever made though was it, if SRL, a player that no doubt you would have wanted on the team sheet, had scored that chance then you would have lost your money. well at least you've made a few quid out of picking your team to lose!
why you think that because of a very poor cup performance that the club no longer wants to push as high up the league as they can is beyond me. I suppose you will be trying to make a bit more money out of wanting saints to lose?
nice to see that your delighted that osprey has decided that he no longer wants to post any longer and that you take that as a positive from todays defeat (I really don't get the connection). again what a great supporter you must be, glad we lost so that a person you have never met no longer joins in on these forums, probably because he has different opinions to you. osprey is a harmless old, sorry osprey, geezer who uses these forums to show his support for the whole team and club and as a way of contacting other fans.
don't stop posting osprey, I may not always like everything you post, but you are often amusing and that's fine by me. anyway if posters like you, who are here regardless of the result disappeared, who would be here when we win? most of the moaners never turn up unless we lose.
as bad as we were, and we were bad, I still cant get my head around a saints fan betting on us to lose. must have been delighted when SRL put the ball over. well I suppose it must be a nice feeling knowing you've got a bit more money in your pocket!
I've had enough lectures questioning mine and many other fans about their level of loyalty to The Saints from Osprey to last me a lifetime, don't really need another from you thank you.
You see 101. i am a realist, I'd already picked up on the fact that MP did not want to take part in the Europa league and therefore would not make any real attempt to win this game.
I am a believer that you have to do your best in everything you attempt, with today' s team selection our management failed us, their nonchalant approach to the game rubbed off on the players I'm afraid and the result was inevitable.
Only in my humble opinion of course.
firstly costa I never questioned yours or any others `loyalty` what I said was that I don't know any saints fan that would bet real money on his own team losing, and I stand by that! you see I don't know you.
so you see the selected team and instantly think that that team is not good enough to beat any blunderland team? `I am a realist`? always a strange comment from anyone, so do you think that fans like me who thought that the team should have been able to beat blunderland are dreamers? let me remind you that the team selected had mainly first team starters, some coming back from injury and who need game time.
its ok to say that the management failed us with the team selection but you don't mention which players you would have dropped or picked.
as for the result being `inevitable` really? was it? so one long range great but a bit lucky shot against jwp`s chance lalla`s chance, or SRL`s chance? no we had enough chances to win and they went to our `first teamers` who you would have picked. simple thing is we played badly, really badly it happens.
I cant understand why anyone is saying that MP `threw` yesterdays game because he didn't want to win the cup and so get into Europe. people seem to forget the burnley game, that would have been the perfect game if MP really wanted to get knocked out of the cup.
so come on costa, what about yesterdays team selection made you want to put money on your own team losing? you cant have fonte starting as his leg was badly cut up during the hull game, he would have come on if really needed but why risk injuring him further?
Costa Gaz and Co are completely right. What gives you, ospreysaint and strasbourg the right to start questioning how much of a Saints fan a poster is. It comes off as childish and a little spiteful. Have your say and the rest of us will have our say, if you don't agree say so in a polite fashion. The thread is ruined by a few who think they are judge and jury. And looking at the thumbs down on posts, it's plain to see who the culprits are. This is a thread so Saints fans can have their say, even if they are not always positive. Grow up!
WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YES I AM SHOUTING.

FIND ONE POST FROM ME THAT HAS EVER - I REPEAT - EVER - QUESTIONED HOW MUCH OF A SAINTS FAN ANY POSTER IS.

I AM NO ONE'S JUDGE OR JURY AND, UNLIKE YOUR JUDGMENTAL COMMENT HERE, HAVE NEVER JUDGED ANYONE.

BY ALL MEANS POST THINGS THAT MAKE ME SHAKE MY HEAD IN DISBELIEF BUT NEVER, EVER AGAIN MAKE FALSE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ME.
It's Costa Gaz who bet against his own team, nobody else.

Try disagreeing with Costa Gaz at your peril!

I haven't seen Strasbourg Saint question anybody's loyalty on here.

If you are going to accuse him of this you should be prepared to back it up.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SWAYTHLING SAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Does anyone else find it bizarre that the assistant manager takes charge for cup games.... Just can't get my head around that one. As soon as the team was announced I got a few €'s on a home win, easiest money I'll ever make... we lost before a ball was kicked. Before today I was thinking that we could.possibly finish above Man Utd in the league, not really sure that the club has any intention to attempt this now. One positive to take from today is that Osprey does not comment on here anymore.[/p][/quote]well that's the right attitude, defeatist from the start. I don't know any saints fan who would bet real money on the team losing! it wasn't the easiest money you have ever made though was it, if SRL, a player that no doubt you would have wanted on the team sheet, had scored that chance then you would have lost your money. well at least you've made a few quid out of picking your team to lose! why you think that because of a very poor cup performance that the club no longer wants to push as high up the league as they can is beyond me. I suppose you will be trying to make a bit more money out of wanting saints to lose? nice to see that your delighted that osprey has decided that he no longer wants to post any longer and that you take that as a positive from todays defeat (I really don't get the connection). again what a great supporter you must be, glad we lost so that a person you have never met no longer joins in on these forums, probably because he has different opinions to you. osprey is a harmless old, sorry osprey, geezer who uses these forums to show his support for the whole team and club and as a way of contacting other fans. don't stop posting osprey, I may not always like everything you post, but you are often amusing and that's fine by me. anyway if posters like you, who are here regardless of the result disappeared, who would be here when we win? most of the moaners never turn up unless we lose. as bad as we were, and we were bad, I still cant get my head around a saints fan betting on us to lose. must have been delighted when SRL put the ball over. well I suppose it must be a nice feeling knowing you've got a bit more money in your pocket![/p][/quote]I've had enough lectures questioning mine and many other fans about their level of loyalty to The Saints from Osprey to last me a lifetime, don't really need another from you thank you. You see 101. i am a realist, I'd already picked up on the fact that MP did not want to take part in the Europa league and therefore would not make any real attempt to win this game. I am a believer that you have to do your best in everything you attempt, with today' s team selection our management failed us, their nonchalant approach to the game rubbed off on the players I'm afraid and the result was inevitable. Only in my humble opinion of course.[/p][/quote]firstly costa I never questioned yours or any others `loyalty` what I said was that I don't know any saints fan that would bet real money on his own team losing, and I stand by that! you see I don't know you. so you see the selected team and instantly think that that team is not good enough to beat any blunderland team? `I am a realist`? always a strange comment from anyone, so do you think that fans like me who thought that the team should have been able to beat blunderland are dreamers? let me remind you that the team selected had mainly first team starters, some coming back from injury and who need game time. its ok to say that the management failed us with the team selection but you don't mention which players you would have dropped or picked. as for the result being `inevitable` really? was it? so one long range great but a bit lucky shot against jwp`s chance lalla`s chance, or SRL`s chance? no we had enough chances to win and they went to our `first teamers` who you would have picked. simple thing is we played badly, really badly it happens. I cant understand why anyone is saying that MP `threw` yesterdays game because he didn't want to win the cup and so get into Europe. people seem to forget the burnley game, that would have been the perfect game if MP really wanted to get knocked out of the cup. so come on costa, what about yesterdays team selection made you want to put money on your own team losing? you cant have fonte starting as his leg was badly cut up during the hull game, he would have come on if really needed but why risk injuring him further?[/p][/quote]Costa Gaz and Co are completely right. What gives you, ospreysaint and strasbourg the right to start questioning how much of a Saints fan a poster is. It comes off as childish and a little spiteful. Have your say and the rest of us will have our say, if you don't agree say so in a polite fashion. The thread is ruined by a few who think they are judge and jury. And looking at the thumbs down on posts, it's plain to see who the culprits are. This is a thread so Saints fans can have their say, even if they are not always positive. Grow up![/p][/quote]WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES I AM SHOUTING. FIND ONE POST FROM ME THAT HAS EVER - I REPEAT - EVER - QUESTIONED HOW MUCH OF A SAINTS FAN ANY POSTER IS. I AM NO ONE'S JUDGE OR JURY AND, UNLIKE YOUR JUDGMENTAL COMMENT HERE, HAVE NEVER JUDGED ANYONE. BY ALL MEANS POST THINGS THAT MAKE ME SHAKE MY HEAD IN DISBELIEF BUT NEVER, EVER AGAIN MAKE FALSE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ME.[/p][/quote]It's Costa Gaz who bet against his own team, nobody else. Try disagreeing with Costa Gaz at your peril! I haven't seen Strasbourg Saint question anybody's loyalty on here. If you are going to accuse him of this you should be prepared to back it up. Thornhill Saint

4:55pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Thornhill Saint says...

Rising_Son wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
SWAYTHLING SAINT wrote:
Well all the Guly fans got their wish and the maestro didn't deliver, as per usual. Shame we still don't have Danny Fox, he would have looked top draw today.
I was quiet on this post as I didn't think it was worthy of a response, but since you had a dig at me for `ruining these threads` can you explain how this post improves the threads? also who are the guly fans? and what was their `wish`?
come on then explain to us all why yesterdays poor performance was gulys fault.
don't forget to add danny fox to your explanation as you clearly think that had he been playing yesterday we would have been so much worse!
Horse, I would like to agree with you but that might prove provocative, so I'll refrain.
I would also like to agree, politely with Horse.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SWAYTHLING SAINT[/bold] wrote: Well all the Guly fans got their wish and the maestro didn't deliver, as per usual. Shame we still don't have Danny Fox, he would have looked top draw today.[/p][/quote]I was quiet on this post as I didn't think it was worthy of a response, but since you had a dig at me for `ruining these threads` can you explain how this post improves the threads? also who are the guly fans? and what was their `wish`? come on then explain to us all why yesterdays poor performance was gulys fault. don't forget to add danny fox to your explanation as you clearly think that had he been playing yesterday we would have been so much worse![/p][/quote]Horse, I would like to agree with you but that might prove provocative, so I'll refrain.[/p][/quote]I would also like to agree, politely with Horse. Thornhill Saint

5:12pm Sun 16 Feb 14

alanstreet46 says...

If The Pope is infallible then so surely must be Jesus. He and Poch's contempt for Saints fans is so obvious, but will they be reading or taking notice of any of the comments here. Not on your Nellie. It is the prerogative of little men to ignore the remarks of those even smaller (i.e. me and all the other posters above) because ordinary fans don't matter to them in their absolute certainty of their infallible judgement.
If The Pope is infallible then so surely must be Jesus. He and Poch's contempt for Saints fans is so obvious, but will they be reading or taking notice of any of the comments here. Not on your Nellie. It is the prerogative of little men to ignore the remarks of those even smaller (i.e. me and all the other posters above) because ordinary fans don't matter to them in their absolute certainty of their infallible judgement. alanstreet46

5:15pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Saint. says...

WobblyCat wrote:
Saint. wrote:
I as any other Saints fan is annoyed and sadden to go out, but shame on many of you, and slightly shortsighted too. You over look many things and many sound like those stupid commentators who think and want Saints to be a small club and had so much crap about what Saints should of done, and you come on here and regurgitate it!

Firstly respect to all those travelling fans for travelling all that way, for an early start and in those dangerous conditions! TOTAL RESPECT!

Points to think may be....

1 MP clearly loves his back room staff and they have brought this club up to play high pressured game, which is exciting to watching and out playing most teams we've played, even if we didn't collect all the points! On that I think MP shares everything with his team and brings them to the forefront for cup games! what's wrong with that?

2 I appreciate our standard of game is so high now, but do the moaning Saints fans really think we deserve to win every single game? Which team does? Even in one cup competitions which was slowly opening up for us to win!

3 simply the pitch was awful! The conditions were hideous to play in too!

4 It was only one blistering pot luck shot that caught the wind and that beat a second choice goalie, who was slightly out of positions in the first place!

5 Despite the changes the experience players did not have a great game either! Lambert, Lallana and Davis who have been brilliant this season were slightly off in this game. It does happen and nothing to do with the changes!

6 the changes were of good quality anyway, and if your honest should of beaten Monkey boy!

7 Monkey boy has a hold on Saints, I think when he was a Brighton he must of paid a visit to a travelling gypsy of something.

8 Whose to say that playing our strongest side we would of won? On the day we would of still most likely lost by one goal. as mention many players were not having their best game anyway!

9 would all you moaners would of been happy if we played our best team, and say spider broke down and lost for a month or more. We have to trust MP to get our best players through the whole season!

10 For all those stupid half empty cup supporters who also listen to all that crap on the TV from the commentators! NEWSFLASH! Southampton FC still very much to play for this season! Look at the league! We are best placed to hit higher places!! We have a good run of games coming, and the higher we go the more money this club gets!! We can still make Europe even if the pundits what all TV viewers to think this small coastal club is punching above its weight and all should think we will be lucky to finish 9th. Perfected statement ! Now with this cup exit I would expect MP to win as many games in hopefully better weather condition and throw Southampton FC to six or above. It's with in our hands and we are only a few points behind, and is the only course Saints must apply if our development to winning this league in sometime in the near future.

11 the higher we are the better the player we can attract in the summer!!

Come on don't listen to so called TV pundits who know nothing and easy to think us as a small club that just makes up the numbers!

We have the BEST manager! We have the best TEAM spirit! We have the best way of of PLAYING football! We have the BEST club!

Finish high in the league as possibly, and buy some top quality players in the summer. Southampton cup is half full!
Do they use exploding footballs in fa cup ties! All of a sudden players are 3 times more likely to break a leg in the fa cup! The suggestion that we would have probably still lost by one goal if we had played our strongest side beggars belief and I'd be interested to know who we are likely to attract finishing 7th that we wouldn't if we finished 8th! Hopefully we will finish top 7 now our best players have avoided the near death of an fa cup tie.
Miss the point clearly!

Who said to break a leg?

Lose by one goal yes may be, we will never know! As mentioned, our regular players did not have a good game by their standards, the pitch was awful, the weather was hideous, the game was early, monkey boy has a knack of beating us! Added the fact that the team which played has beaten others and should of beaten Sunderland.
[quote][p][bold]WobblyCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint.[/bold] wrote: I as any other Saints fan is annoyed and sadden to go out, but shame on many of you, and slightly shortsighted too. You over look many things and many sound like those stupid commentators who think and want Saints to be a small club and had so much crap about what Saints should of done, and you come on here and regurgitate it! Firstly respect to all those travelling fans for travelling all that way, for an early start and in those dangerous conditions! TOTAL RESPECT! Points to think may be.... 1 MP clearly loves his back room staff and they have brought this club up to play high pressured game, which is exciting to watching and out playing most teams we've played, even if we didn't collect all the points! On that I think MP shares everything with his team and brings them to the forefront for cup games! what's wrong with that? 2 I appreciate our standard of game is so high now, but do the moaning Saints fans really think we deserve to win every single game? Which team does? Even in one cup competitions which was slowly opening up for us to win! 3 simply the pitch was awful! The conditions were hideous to play in too! 4 It was only one blistering pot luck shot that caught the wind and that beat a second choice goalie, who was slightly out of positions in the first place! 5 Despite the changes the experience players did not have a great game either! Lambert, Lallana and Davis who have been brilliant this season were slightly off in this game. It does happen and nothing to do with the changes! 6 the changes were of good quality anyway, and if your honest should of beaten Monkey boy! 7 Monkey boy has a hold on Saints, I think when he was a Brighton he must of paid a visit to a travelling gypsy of something. 8 Whose to say that playing our strongest side we would of won? On the day we would of still most likely lost by one goal. as mention many players were not having their best game anyway! 9 would all you moaners would of been happy if we played our best team, and say spider broke down and lost for a month or more. We have to trust MP to get our best players through the whole season! 10 For all those stupid half empty cup supporters who also listen to all that crap on the TV from the commentators! NEWSFLASH! Southampton FC still very much to play for this season! Look at the league! We are best placed to hit higher places!! We have a good run of games coming, and the higher we go the more money this club gets!! We can still make Europe even if the pundits what all TV viewers to think this small coastal club is punching above its weight and all should think we will be lucky to finish 9th. Perfected statement ! Now with this cup exit I would expect MP to win as many games in hopefully better weather condition and throw Southampton FC to six or above. It's with in our hands and we are only a few points behind, and is the only course Saints must apply if our development to winning this league in sometime in the near future. 11 the higher we are the better the player we can attract in the summer!! Come on don't listen to so called TV pundits who know nothing and easy to think us as a small club that just makes up the numbers! We have the BEST manager! We have the best TEAM spirit! We have the best way of of PLAYING football! We have the BEST club! Finish high in the league as possibly, and buy some top quality players in the summer. Southampton cup is half full![/p][/quote]Do they use exploding footballs in fa cup ties! All of a sudden players are 3 times more likely to break a leg in the fa cup! The suggestion that we would have probably still lost by one goal if we had played our strongest side beggars belief and I'd be interested to know who we are likely to attract finishing 7th that we wouldn't if we finished 8th! Hopefully we will finish top 7 now our best players have avoided the near death of an fa cup tie.[/p][/quote]Miss the point clearly! Who said to break a leg? Lose by one goal yes may be, we will never know! As mentioned, our regular players did not have a good game by their standards, the pitch was awful, the weather was hideous, the game was early, monkey boy has a knack of beating us! Added the fact that the team which played has beaten others and should of beaten Sunderland. Saint.

5:18pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Thornhill Saint says...

alanstreet46 wrote:
If The Pope is infallible then so surely must be Jesus. He and Poch's contempt for Saints fans is so obvious, but will they be reading or taking notice of any of the comments here. Not on your Nellie. It is the prerogative of little men to ignore the remarks of those even smaller (i.e. me and all the other posters above) because ordinary fans don't matter to them in their absolute certainty of their infallible judgement.
Considering what Poch and Jesus have achieved, slagging them off like this seems a tad unfair.

Jesus explained why some players did not play. The team that played was good enough to win. They were under par (Even sir Rickie Lambert).

I have just had a look at the table and points tally and feel an awful lot better about things.

Maybe you should try it? Maybe Poch and Jesus are not doing so bad after all.
[quote][p][bold]alanstreet46[/bold] wrote: If The Pope is infallible then so surely must be Jesus. He and Poch's contempt for Saints fans is so obvious, but will they be reading or taking notice of any of the comments here. Not on your Nellie. It is the prerogative of little men to ignore the remarks of those even smaller (i.e. me and all the other posters above) because ordinary fans don't matter to them in their absolute certainty of their infallible judgement.[/p][/quote]Considering what Poch and Jesus have achieved, slagging them off like this seems a tad unfair. Jesus explained why some players did not play. The team that played was good enough to win. They were under par (Even sir Rickie Lambert). I have just had a look at the table and points tally and feel an awful lot better about things. Maybe you should try it? Maybe Poch and Jesus are not doing so bad after all. Thornhill Saint

6:37pm Sun 16 Feb 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
SWAYTHLING SAINT wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Does anyone else find it bizarre that the assistant manager takes charge for cup games....
Just can't get my head around that one.
As soon as the team was announced I got a few €'s on a home win, easiest money I'll ever make... we lost before a ball was kicked.
Before today I was thinking that we could.possibly finish above Man Utd in the league, not really sure that the club has any intention to attempt this now.

One positive to take from today is that Osprey does not comment on here anymore.
well that's the right attitude, defeatist from the start.
I don't know any saints fan who would bet real money on the team losing! it wasn't the easiest money you have ever made though was it, if SRL, a player that no doubt you would have wanted on the team sheet, had scored that chance then you would have lost your money. well at least you've made a few quid out of picking your team to lose!
why you think that because of a very poor cup performance that the club no longer wants to push as high up the league as they can is beyond me. I suppose you will be trying to make a bit more money out of wanting saints to lose?
nice to see that your delighted that osprey has decided that he no longer wants to post any longer and that you take that as a positive from todays defeat (I really don't get the connection). again what a great supporter you must be, glad we lost so that a person you have never met no longer joins in on these forums, probably because he has different opinions to you. osprey is a harmless old, sorry osprey, geezer who uses these forums to show his support for the whole team and club and as a way of contacting other fans.
don't stop posting osprey, I may not always like everything you post, but you are often amusing and that's fine by me. anyway if posters like you, who are here regardless of the result disappeared, who would be here when we win? most of the moaners never turn up unless we lose.
as bad as we were, and we were bad, I still cant get my head around a saints fan betting on us to lose. must have been delighted when SRL put the ball over. well I suppose it must be a nice feeling knowing you've got a bit more money in your pocket!
I've had enough lectures questioning mine and many other fans about their level of loyalty to The Saints from Osprey to last me a lifetime, don't really need another from you thank you.
You see 101. i am a realist, I'd already picked up on the fact that MP did not want to take part in the Europa league and therefore would not make any real attempt to win this game.
I am a believer that you have to do your best in everything you attempt, with today' s team selection our management failed us, their nonchalant approach to the game rubbed off on the players I'm afraid and the result was inevitable.
Only in my humble opinion of course.
firstly costa I never questioned yours or any others `loyalty` what I said was that I don't know any saints fan that would bet real money on his own team losing, and I stand by that! you see I don't know you.
so you see the selected team and instantly think that that team is not good enough to beat any blunderland team? `I am a realist`? always a strange comment from anyone, so do you think that fans like me who thought that the team should have been able to beat blunderland are dreamers? let me remind you that the team selected had mainly first team starters, some coming back from injury and who need game time.
its ok to say that the management failed us with the team selection but you don't mention which players you would have dropped or picked.
as for the result being `inevitable` really? was it? so one long range great but a bit lucky shot against jwp`s chance lalla`s chance, or SRL`s chance? no we had enough chances to win and they went to our `first teamers` who you would have picked. simple thing is we played badly, really badly it happens.
I cant understand why anyone is saying that MP `threw` yesterdays game because he didn't want to win the cup and so get into Europe. people seem to forget the burnley game, that would have been the perfect game if MP really wanted to get knocked out of the cup.
so come on costa, what about yesterdays team selection made you want to put money on your own team losing? you cant have fonte starting as his leg was badly cut up during the hull game, he would have come on if really needed but why risk injuring him further?
Costa Gaz and Co are completely right. What gives you, ospreysaint and strasbourg the right to start questioning how much of a Saints fan a poster is. It comes off as childish and a little spiteful. Have your say and the rest of us will have our say, if you don't agree say so in a polite fashion. The thread is ruined by a few who think they are judge and jury. And looking at the thumbs down on posts, it's plain to see who the culprits are. This is a thread so Saints fans can have their say, even if they are not always positive. Grow up!
WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YES I AM SHOUTING.

FIND ONE POST FROM ME THAT HAS EVER - I REPEAT - EVER - QUESTIONED HOW MUCH OF A SAINTS FAN ANY POSTER IS.

I AM NO ONE'S JUDGE OR JURY AND, UNLIKE YOUR JUDGMENTAL COMMENT HERE, HAVE NEVER JUDGED ANYONE.

BY ALL MEANS POST THINGS THAT MAKE ME SHAKE MY HEAD IN DISBELIEF BUT NEVER, EVER AGAIN MAKE FALSE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ME.
It's Costa Gaz who bet against his own team, nobody else.

Try disagreeing with Costa Gaz at your peril!

I haven't seen Strasbourg Saint question anybody's loyalty on here.

If you are going to accuse him of this you should be prepared to back it up.
sorry that this isn't the negative upset blame everybody post that I promised, I will in future only post like that as I don't want to be positive or be the judge of others, so.

i haven't accused anyone of not supporting saints on this thread, i have in the past on previous threads and the 3 or 4 that i, amongst others, did turned out to be poopey posters in disguise, i even said that costa IS a fan. all i said is that i do not know any saints fan who after seeing a team sheet would bet on saints losing, i don't know any who would bet on us losing without seeing a team sheet. i do know many saints fans who might say or think that we might lose a game but never bet actual money on us losing. i don't know why some cant see that as wrong.
i have been trying to find a post from swaythlingsaint on a game thread after we have won or even drawn a tough game. cant find one yet, but we all support in different ways. don't worry though swaythlingsaint, even though you haven't explained to me why it was gulys fault that we lost or what the guly lovers wish was, or even who they are, you have convinced me that the only way to show my support is to only come on here after a loss and to then moan that it was gulys fault and complain that the happy clappers are judging me and because they turn up regardless of the result they are ruining these threads (the same threads that would be almost empty after a win without them).

i blame guly!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SWAYTHLING SAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Does anyone else find it bizarre that the assistant manager takes charge for cup games.... Just can't get my head around that one. As soon as the team was announced I got a few €'s on a home win, easiest money I'll ever make... we lost before a ball was kicked. Before today I was thinking that we could.possibly finish above Man Utd in the league, not really sure that the club has any intention to attempt this now. One positive to take from today is that Osprey does not comment on here anymore.[/p][/quote]well that's the right attitude, defeatist from the start. I don't know any saints fan who would bet real money on the team losing! it wasn't the easiest money you have ever made though was it, if SRL, a player that no doubt you would have wanted on the team sheet, had scored that chance then you would have lost your money. well at least you've made a few quid out of picking your team to lose! why you think that because of a very poor cup performance that the club no longer wants to push as high up the league as they can is beyond me. I suppose you will be trying to make a bit more money out of wanting saints to lose? nice to see that your delighted that osprey has decided that he no longer wants to post any longer and that you take that as a positive from todays defeat (I really don't get the connection). again what a great supporter you must be, glad we lost so that a person you have never met no longer joins in on these forums, probably because he has different opinions to you. osprey is a harmless old, sorry osprey, geezer who uses these forums to show his support for the whole team and club and as a way of contacting other fans. don't stop posting osprey, I may not always like everything you post, but you are often amusing and that's fine by me. anyway if posters like you, who are here regardless of the result disappeared, who would be here when we win? most of the moaners never turn up unless we lose. as bad as we were, and we were bad, I still cant get my head around a saints fan betting on us to lose. must have been delighted when SRL put the ball over. well I suppose it must be a nice feeling knowing you've got a bit more money in your pocket![/p][/quote]I've had enough lectures questioning mine and many other fans about their level of loyalty to The Saints from Osprey to last me a lifetime, don't really need another from you thank you. You see 101. i am a realist, I'd already picked up on the fact that MP did not want to take part in the Europa league and therefore would not make any real attempt to win this game. I am a believer that you have to do your best in everything you attempt, with today' s team selection our management failed us, their nonchalant approach to the game rubbed off on the players I'm afraid and the result was inevitable. Only in my humble opinion of course.[/p][/quote]firstly costa I never questioned yours or any others `loyalty` what I said was that I don't know any saints fan that would bet real money on his own team losing, and I stand by that! you see I don't know you. so you see the selected team and instantly think that that team is not good enough to beat any blunderland team? `I am a realist`? always a strange comment from anyone, so do you think that fans like me who thought that the team should have been able to beat blunderland are dreamers? let me remind you that the team selected had mainly first team starters, some coming back from injury and who need game time. its ok to say that the management failed us with the team selection but you don't mention which players you would have dropped or picked. as for the result being `inevitable` really? was it? so one long range great but a bit lucky shot against jwp`s chance lalla`s chance, or SRL`s chance? no we had enough chances to win and they went to our `first teamers` who you would have picked. simple thing is we played badly, really badly it happens. I cant understand why anyone is saying that MP `threw` yesterdays game because he didn't want to win the cup and so get into Europe. people seem to forget the burnley game, that would have been the perfect game if MP really wanted to get knocked out of the cup. so come on costa, what about yesterdays team selection made you want to put money on your own team losing? you cant have fonte starting as his leg was badly cut up during the hull game, he would have come on if really needed but why risk injuring him further?[/p][/quote]Costa Gaz and Co are completely right. What gives you, ospreysaint and strasbourg the right to start questioning how much of a Saints fan a poster is. It comes off as childish and a little spiteful. Have your say and the rest of us will have our say, if you don't agree say so in a polite fashion. The thread is ruined by a few who think they are judge and jury. And looking at the thumbs down on posts, it's plain to see who the culprits are. This is a thread so Saints fans can have their say, even if they are not always positive. Grow up![/p][/quote]WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES I AM SHOUTING. FIND ONE POST FROM ME THAT HAS EVER - I REPEAT - EVER - QUESTIONED HOW MUCH OF A SAINTS FAN ANY POSTER IS. I AM NO ONE'S JUDGE OR JURY AND, UNLIKE YOUR JUDGMENTAL COMMENT HERE, HAVE NEVER JUDGED ANYONE. BY ALL MEANS POST THINGS THAT MAKE ME SHAKE MY HEAD IN DISBELIEF BUT NEVER, EVER AGAIN MAKE FALSE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ME.[/p][/quote]It's Costa Gaz who bet against his own team, nobody else. Try disagreeing with Costa Gaz at your peril! I haven't seen Strasbourg Saint question anybody's loyalty on here. If you are going to accuse him of this you should be prepared to back it up.[/p][/quote]sorry that this isn't the negative upset blame everybody post that I promised, I will in future only post like that as I don't want to be positive or be the judge of others, so. i haven't accused anyone of not supporting saints on this thread, i have in the past on previous threads and the 3 or 4 that i, amongst others, did turned out to be poopey posters in disguise, i even said that costa IS a fan. all i said is that i do not know any saints fan who after seeing a team sheet would bet on saints losing, i don't know any who would bet on us losing without seeing a team sheet. i do know many saints fans who might say or think that we might lose a game but never bet actual money on us losing. i don't know why some cant see that as wrong. i have been trying to find a post from swaythlingsaint on a game thread after we have won or even drawn a tough game. cant find one yet, but we all support in different ways. don't worry though swaythlingsaint, even though you haven't explained to me why it was gulys fault that we lost or what the guly lovers wish was, or even who they are, you have convinced me that the only way to show my support is to only come on here after a loss and to then moan that it was gulys fault and complain that the happy clappers are judging me and because they turn up regardless of the result they are ruining these threads (the same threads that would be almost empty after a win without them). i blame guly!!!!!! el caballo santos101

7:32pm Sun 16 Feb 14

doos says...

BracknellSaint wrote:
doos wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
doos wrote:
Enjoy the draw today!!

I'm sure missing out on Wembley and not winning the cup will feel better when you finish 8th. Maybe an open top bus round Southampton holding a big 8!!!??? and then you could put the big 8 in your trophy cabinet next to the paint pot cup.

Southampton yawn! No ambition.
it will feel so much better than a relegation dog fight and the risk of dropping out of the football league. perhaps if you stay up you could go on an open top bus round poopey holding up a big list of debtors and charities/companies your club have done over. you could invite all the nurses and other public sector workers who have been made redundant because you never paid the millions in tax you owed. then you could put a bid pound sign in front of your fa cup to remind everyone that your still trying not to pay for it! poopey yawn no morals and no money!
Ouch, yesterday is till sore isn't is.

I remember the buzz of walking up Wembley way on cup final day and seeing us lift the cup. Even if we play in Gosport and Fareham Sunday league no one can take that from us. Surprised you didn't ty to win something before your owner flogs your talent and club as she hates football.
That's where we differ I suppose.. You're happy to have a very very brief spell of being among the big boys, and loving the trophy you got for beating the ( then) minnows of Cardiff, but when you played a proper team, you lost to Chelsea( as we did to Arsenal) whereas I love that for 30 odd years of the last 40, we've been in the big boys league, and most of my 38 years looking down on our little neighbours in the lower leagues.In terms of the past you lot always harp on about, Wanderers from London won 6 cups, and Old Etonians and Royal Engineers also have two triumphs each, so what does history mean? So when you're playing Fareham, we'll be playing Chelsea or Man Utd etc, and even wanting to check out how you're getting in, most websites, or Sky News etc won't be any use as they don't go that far down in their coverage..it's bad enough now trying to find out how your park football level club is doing, so can't begin to imagine how awful it's going to get for you...
Errr we beat Man United a Old Trafford in the Quarter Finals by playing our strongest side, riding our luck a little and really wanting it.

You were away at Sunderland and didn't even bother!!! Says it all. Enjoy being Charlton for a few years. Safe in mid-table, win nothing and bore everyone.
[quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doos[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doos[/bold] wrote: Enjoy the draw today!! I'm sure missing out on Wembley and not winning the cup will feel better when you finish 8th. Maybe an open top bus round Southampton holding a big 8!!!??? and then you could put the big 8 in your trophy cabinet next to the paint pot cup. Southampton yawn! No ambition.[/p][/quote]it will feel so much better than a relegation dog fight and the risk of dropping out of the football league. perhaps if you stay up you could go on an open top bus round poopey holding up a big list of debtors and charities/companies your club have done over. you could invite all the nurses and other public sector workers who have been made redundant because you never paid the millions in tax you owed. then you could put a bid pound sign in front of your fa cup to remind everyone that your still trying not to pay for it! poopey yawn no morals and no money![/p][/quote]Ouch, yesterday is till sore isn't is. I remember the buzz of walking up Wembley way on cup final day and seeing us lift the cup. Even if we play in Gosport and Fareham Sunday league no one can take that from us. Surprised you didn't ty to win something before your owner flogs your talent and club as she hates football.[/p][/quote]That's where we differ I suppose.. You're happy to have a very very brief spell of being among the big boys, and loving the trophy you got for beating the ( then) minnows of Cardiff, but when you played a proper team, you lost to Chelsea( as we did to Arsenal) whereas I love that for 30 odd years of the last 40, we've been in the big boys league, and most of my 38 years looking down on our little neighbours in the lower leagues.In terms of the past you lot always harp on about, Wanderers from London won 6 cups, and Old Etonians and Royal Engineers also have two triumphs each, so what does history mean? So when you're playing Fareham, we'll be playing Chelsea or Man Utd etc, and even wanting to check out how you're getting in, most websites, or Sky News etc won't be any use as they don't go that far down in their coverage..it's bad enough now trying to find out how your park football level club is doing, so can't begin to imagine how awful it's going to get for you...[/p][/quote]Errr we beat Man United a Old Trafford in the Quarter Finals by playing our strongest side, riding our luck a little and really wanting it. You were away at Sunderland and didn't even bother!!! Says it all. Enjoy being Charlton for a few years. Safe in mid-table, win nothing and bore everyone. doos

7:33pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
SWAYTHLING SAINT wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Does anyone else find it bizarre that the assistant manager takes charge for cup games....
Just can't get my head around that one.
As soon as the team was announced I got a few €'s on a home win, easiest money I'll ever make... we lost before a ball was kicked.
Before today I was thinking that we could.possibly finish above Man Utd in the league, not really sure that the club has any intention to attempt this now.

One positive to take from today is that Osprey does not comment on here anymore.
well that's the right attitude, defeatist from the start.
I don't know any saints fan who would bet real money on the team losing! it wasn't the easiest money you have ever made though was it, if SRL, a player that no doubt you would have wanted on the team sheet, had scored that chance then you would have lost your money. well at least you've made a few quid out of picking your team to lose!
why you think that because of a very poor cup performance that the club no longer wants to push as high up the league as they can is beyond me. I suppose you will be trying to make a bit more money out of wanting saints to lose?
nice to see that your delighted that osprey has decided that he no longer wants to post any longer and that you take that as a positive from todays defeat (I really don't get the connection). again what a great supporter you must be, glad we lost so that a person you have never met no longer joins in on these forums, probably because he has different opinions to you. osprey is a harmless old, sorry osprey, geezer who uses these forums to show his support for the whole team and club and as a way of contacting other fans.
don't stop posting osprey, I may not always like everything you post, but you are often amusing and that's fine by me. anyway if posters like you, who are here regardless of the result disappeared, who would be here when we win? most of the moaners never turn up unless we lose.
as bad as we were, and we were bad, I still cant get my head around a saints fan betting on us to lose. must have been delighted when SRL put the ball over. well I suppose it must be a nice feeling knowing you've got a bit more money in your pocket!
I've had enough lectures questioning mine and many other fans about their level of loyalty to The Saints from Osprey to last me a lifetime, don't really need another from you thank you.
You see 101. i am a realist, I'd already picked up on the fact that MP did not want to take part in the Europa league and therefore would not make any real attempt to win this game.
I am a believer that you have to do your best in everything you attempt, with today' s team selection our management failed us, their nonchalant approach to the game rubbed off on the players I'm afraid and the result was inevitable.
Only in my humble opinion of course.
firstly costa I never questioned yours or any others `loyalty` what I said was that I don't know any saints fan that would bet real money on his own team losing, and I stand by that! you see I don't know you.
so you see the selected team and instantly think that that team is not good enough to beat any blunderland team? `I am a realist`? always a strange comment from anyone, so do you think that fans like me who thought that the team should have been able to beat blunderland are dreamers? let me remind you that the team selected had mainly first team starters, some coming back from injury and who need game time.
its ok to say that the management failed us with the team selection but you don't mention which players you would have dropped or picked.
as for the result being `inevitable` really? was it? so one long range great but a bit lucky shot against jwp`s chance lalla`s chance, or SRL`s chance? no we had enough chances to win and they went to our `first teamers` who you would have picked. simple thing is we played badly, really badly it happens.
I cant understand why anyone is saying that MP `threw` yesterdays game because he didn't want to win the cup and so get into Europe. people seem to forget the burnley game, that would have been the perfect game if MP really wanted to get knocked out of the cup.
so come on costa, what about yesterdays team selection made you want to put money on your own team losing? you cant have fonte starting as his leg was badly cut up during the hull game, he would have come on if really needed but why risk injuring him further?
Costa Gaz and Co are completely right. What gives you, ospreysaint and strasbourg the right to start questioning how much of a Saints fan a poster is. It comes off as childish and a little spiteful. Have your say and the rest of us will have our say, if you don't agree say so in a polite fashion. The thread is ruined by a few who think they are judge and jury. And looking at the thumbs down on posts, it's plain to see who the culprits are. This is a thread so Saints fans can have their say, even if they are not always positive. Grow up!
WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YES I AM SHOUTING.

FIND ONE POST FROM ME THAT HAS EVER - I REPEAT - EVER - QUESTIONED HOW MUCH OF A SAINTS FAN ANY POSTER IS.

I AM NO ONE'S JUDGE OR JURY AND, UNLIKE YOUR JUDGMENTAL COMMENT HERE, HAVE NEVER JUDGED ANYONE.

BY ALL MEANS POST THINGS THAT MAKE ME SHAKE MY HEAD IN DISBELIEF BUT NEVER, EVER AGAIN MAKE FALSE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ME.
It's Costa Gaz who bet against his own team, nobody else.

Try disagreeing with Costa Gaz at your peril!

I haven't seen Strasbourg Saint question anybody's loyalty on here.

If you are going to accuse him of this you should be prepared to back it up.
sorry that this isn't the negative upset blame everybody post that I promised, I will in future only post like that as I don't want to be positive or be the judge of others, so.

i haven't accused anyone of not supporting saints on this thread, i have in the past on previous threads and the 3 or 4 that i, amongst others, did turned out to be poopey posters in disguise, i even said that costa IS a fan. all i said is that i do not know any saints fan who after seeing a team sheet would bet on saints losing, i don't know any who would bet on us losing without seeing a team sheet. i do know many saints fans who might say or think that we might lose a game but never bet actual money on us losing. i don't know why some cant see that as wrong.
i have been trying to find a post from swaythlingsaint on a game thread after we have won or even drawn a tough game. cant find one yet, but we all support in different ways. don't worry though swaythlingsaint, even though you haven't explained to me why it was gulys fault that we lost or what the guly lovers wish was, or even who they are, you have convinced me that the only way to show my support is to only come on here after a loss and to then moan that it was gulys fault and complain that the happy clappers are judging me and because they turn up regardless of the result they are ruining these threads (the same threads that would be almost empty after a win without them).

i blame guly!!!!!!
Careful 101, to some on here, irony is as lost as a cup tie in Sunderland. :)
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SWAYTHLING SAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Does anyone else find it bizarre that the assistant manager takes charge for cup games.... Just can't get my head around that one. As soon as the team was announced I got a few €'s on a home win, easiest money I'll ever make... we lost before a ball was kicked. Before today I was thinking that we could.possibly finish above Man Utd in the league, not really sure that the club has any intention to attempt this now. One positive to take from today is that Osprey does not comment on here anymore.[/p][/quote]well that's the right attitude, defeatist from the start. I don't know any saints fan who would bet real money on the team losing! it wasn't the easiest money you have ever made though was it, if SRL, a player that no doubt you would have wanted on the team sheet, had scored that chance then you would have lost your money. well at least you've made a few quid out of picking your team to lose! why you think that because of a very poor cup performance that the club no longer wants to push as high up the league as they can is beyond me. I suppose you will be trying to make a bit more money out of wanting saints to lose? nice to see that your delighted that osprey has decided that he no longer wants to post any longer and that you take that as a positive from todays defeat (I really don't get the connection). again what a great supporter you must be, glad we lost so that a person you have never met no longer joins in on these forums, probably because he has different opinions to you. osprey is a harmless old, sorry osprey, geezer who uses these forums to show his support for the whole team and club and as a way of contacting other fans. don't stop posting osprey, I may not always like everything you post, but you are often amusing and that's fine by me. anyway if posters like you, who are here regardless of the result disappeared, who would be here when we win? most of the moaners never turn up unless we lose. as bad as we were, and we were bad, I still cant get my head around a saints fan betting on us to lose. must have been delighted when SRL put the ball over. well I suppose it must be a nice feeling knowing you've got a bit more money in your pocket![/p][/quote]I've had enough lectures questioning mine and many other fans about their level of loyalty to The Saints from Osprey to last me a lifetime, don't really need another from you thank you. You see 101. i am a realist, I'd already picked up on the fact that MP did not want to take part in the Europa league and therefore would not make any real attempt to win this game. I am a believer that you have to do your best in everything you attempt, with today' s team selection our management failed us, their nonchalant approach to the game rubbed off on the players I'm afraid and the result was inevitable. Only in my humble opinion of course.[/p][/quote]firstly costa I never questioned yours or any others `loyalty` what I said was that I don't know any saints fan that would bet real money on his own team losing, and I stand by that! you see I don't know you. so you see the selected team and instantly think that that team is not good enough to beat any blunderland team? `I am a realist`? always a strange comment from anyone, so do you think that fans like me who thought that the team should have been able to beat blunderland are dreamers? let me remind you that the team selected had mainly first team starters, some coming back from injury and who need game time. its ok to say that the management failed us with the team selection but you don't mention which players you would have dropped or picked. as for the result being `inevitable` really? was it? so one long range great but a bit lucky shot against jwp`s chance lalla`s chance, or SRL`s chance? no we had enough chances to win and they went to our `first teamers` who you would have picked. simple thing is we played badly, really badly it happens. I cant understand why anyone is saying that MP `threw` yesterdays game because he didn't want to win the cup and so get into Europe. people seem to forget the burnley game, that would have been the perfect game if MP really wanted to get knocked out of the cup. so come on costa, what about yesterdays team selection made you want to put money on your own team losing? you cant have fonte starting as his leg was badly cut up during the hull game, he would have come on if really needed but why risk injuring him further?[/p][/quote]Costa Gaz and Co are completely right. What gives you, ospreysaint and strasbourg the right to start questioning how much of a Saints fan a poster is. It comes off as childish and a little spiteful. Have your say and the rest of us will have our say, if you don't agree say so in a polite fashion. The thread is ruined by a few who think they are judge and jury. And looking at the thumbs down on posts, it's plain to see who the culprits are. This is a thread so Saints fans can have their say, even if they are not always positive. Grow up![/p][/quote]WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES I AM SHOUTING. FIND ONE POST FROM ME THAT HAS EVER - I REPEAT - EVER - QUESTIONED HOW MUCH OF A SAINTS FAN ANY POSTER IS. I AM NO ONE'S JUDGE OR JURY AND, UNLIKE YOUR JUDGMENTAL COMMENT HERE, HAVE NEVER JUDGED ANYONE. BY ALL MEANS POST THINGS THAT MAKE ME SHAKE MY HEAD IN DISBELIEF BUT NEVER, EVER AGAIN MAKE FALSE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ME.[/p][/quote]It's Costa Gaz who bet against his own team, nobody else. Try disagreeing with Costa Gaz at your peril! I haven't seen Strasbourg Saint question anybody's loyalty on here. If you are going to accuse him of this you should be prepared to back it up.[/p][/quote]sorry that this isn't the negative upset blame everybody post that I promised, I will in future only post like that as I don't want to be positive or be the judge of others, so. i haven't accused anyone of not supporting saints on this thread, i have in the past on previous threads and the 3 or 4 that i, amongst others, did turned out to be poopey posters in disguise, i even said that costa IS a fan. all i said is that i do not know any saints fan who after seeing a team sheet would bet on saints losing, i don't know any who would bet on us losing without seeing a team sheet. i do know many saints fans who might say or think that we might lose a game but never bet actual money on us losing. i don't know why some cant see that as wrong. i have been trying to find a post from swaythlingsaint on a game thread after we have won or even drawn a tough game. cant find one yet, but we all support in different ways. don't worry though swaythlingsaint, even though you haven't explained to me why it was gulys fault that we lost or what the guly lovers wish was, or even who they are, you have convinced me that the only way to show my support is to only come on here after a loss and to then moan that it was gulys fault and complain that the happy clappers are judging me and because they turn up regardless of the result they are ruining these threads (the same threads that would be almost empty after a win without them). i blame guly!!!!!![/p][/quote]Careful 101, to some on here, irony is as lost as a cup tie in Sunderland. :) Strasbourg Saint

8:18pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Clever Dick says...

doos wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
doos wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
doos wrote:
Enjoy the draw today!!

I'm sure missing out on Wembley and not winning the cup will feel better when you finish 8th. Maybe an open top bus round Southampton holding a big 8!!!??? and then you could put the big 8 in your trophy cabinet next to the paint pot cup.

Southampton yawn! No ambition.
it will feel so much better than a relegation dog fight and the risk of dropping out of the football league. perhaps if you stay up you could go on an open top bus round poopey holding up a big list of debtors and charities/companies your club have done over. you could invite all the nurses and other public sector workers who have been made redundant because you never paid the millions in tax you owed. then you could put a bid pound sign in front of your fa cup to remind everyone that your still trying not to pay for it! poopey yawn no morals and no money!
Ouch, yesterday is till sore isn't is.

I remember the buzz of walking up Wembley way on cup final day and seeing us lift the cup. Even if we play in Gosport and Fareham Sunday league no one can take that from us. Surprised you didn't ty to win something before your owner flogs your talent and club as she hates football.
That's where we differ I suppose.. You're happy to have a very very brief spell of being among the big boys, and loving the trophy you got for beating the ( then) minnows of Cardiff, but when you played a proper team, you lost to Chelsea( as we did to Arsenal) whereas I love that for 30 odd years of the last 40, we've been in the big boys league, and most of my 38 years looking down on our little neighbours in the lower leagues.In terms of the past you lot always harp on about, Wanderers from London won 6 cups, and Old Etonians and Royal Engineers also have two triumphs each, so what does history mean? So when you're playing Fareham, we'll be playing Chelsea or Man Utd etc, and even wanting to check out how you're getting in, most websites, or Sky News etc won't be any use as they don't go that far down in their coverage..it's bad enough now trying to find out how your park football level club is doing, so can't begin to imagine how awful it's going to get for you...
Errr we beat Man United a Old Trafford in the Quarter Finals by playing our strongest side, riding our luck a little and really wanting it.

You were away at Sunderland and didn't even bother!!! Says it all. Enjoy being Charlton for a few years. Safe in mid-table, win nothing and bore everyone.
It does say it all doesn't it. It actually demonstrates that the historic trophies that you put so much store by are of little interest to a club aiming for much higher things. I don't think you will find too many Saints fans bored with the way we have played this season. It would actually be more boring having to read the garbage that you trot out if it weren't for the fact that is keeps us highly amused and gives us never ending demonstrations of your enormous jealousy and inferiority complex. As I said yesterday p1$$ off back to your failed laughing stock of a club before it disappears completely.
[quote][p][bold]doos[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doos[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doos[/bold] wrote: Enjoy the draw today!! I'm sure missing out on Wembley and not winning the cup will feel better when you finish 8th. Maybe an open top bus round Southampton holding a big 8!!!??? and then you could put the big 8 in your trophy cabinet next to the paint pot cup. Southampton yawn! No ambition.[/p][/quote]it will feel so much better than a relegation dog fight and the risk of dropping out of the football league. perhaps if you stay up you could go on an open top bus round poopey holding up a big list of debtors and charities/companies your club have done over. you could invite all the nurses and other public sector workers who have been made redundant because you never paid the millions in tax you owed. then you could put a bid pound sign in front of your fa cup to remind everyone that your still trying not to pay for it! poopey yawn no morals and no money![/p][/quote]Ouch, yesterday is till sore isn't is. I remember the buzz of walking up Wembley way on cup final day and seeing us lift the cup. Even if we play in Gosport and Fareham Sunday league no one can take that from us. Surprised you didn't ty to win something before your owner flogs your talent and club as she hates football.[/p][/quote]That's where we differ I suppose.. You're happy to have a very very brief spell of being among the big boys, and loving the trophy you got for beating the ( then) minnows of Cardiff, but when you played a proper team, you lost to Chelsea( as we did to Arsenal) whereas I love that for 30 odd years of the last 40, we've been in the big boys league, and most of my 38 years looking down on our little neighbours in the lower leagues.In terms of the past you lot always harp on about, Wanderers from London won 6 cups, and Old Etonians and Royal Engineers also have two triumphs each, so what does history mean? So when you're playing Fareham, we'll be playing Chelsea or Man Utd etc, and even wanting to check out how you're getting in, most websites, or Sky News etc won't be any use as they don't go that far down in their coverage..it's bad enough now trying to find out how your park football level club is doing, so can't begin to imagine how awful it's going to get for you...[/p][/quote]Errr we beat Man United a Old Trafford in the Quarter Finals by playing our strongest side, riding our luck a little and really wanting it. You were away at Sunderland and didn't even bother!!! Says it all. Enjoy being Charlton for a few years. Safe in mid-table, win nothing and bore everyone.[/p][/quote]It does say it all doesn't it. It actually demonstrates that the historic trophies that you put so much store by are of little interest to a club aiming for much higher things. I don't think you will find too many Saints fans bored with the way we have played this season. It would actually be more boring having to read the garbage that you trot out if it weren't for the fact that is keeps us highly amused and gives us never ending demonstrations of your enormous jealousy and inferiority complex. As I said yesterday p1$$ off back to your failed laughing stock of a club before it disappears completely. Clever Dick

10:17pm Sun 16 Feb 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
SWAYTHLING SAINT wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Does anyone else find it bizarre that the assistant manager takes charge for cup games....
Just can't get my head around that one.
As soon as the team was announced I got a few €'s on a home win, easiest money I'll ever make... we lost before a ball was kicked.
Before today I was thinking that we could.possibly finish above Man Utd in the league, not really sure that the club has any intention to attempt this now.

One positive to take from today is that Osprey does not comment on here anymore.
well that's the right attitude, defeatist from the start.
I don't know any saints fan who would bet real money on the team losing! it wasn't the easiest money you have ever made though was it, if SRL, a player that no doubt you would have wanted on the team sheet, had scored that chance then you would have lost your money. well at least you've made a few quid out of picking your team to lose!
why you think that because of a very poor cup performance that the club no longer wants to push as high up the league as they can is beyond me. I suppose you will be trying to make a bit more money out of wanting saints to lose?
nice to see that your delighted that osprey has decided that he no longer wants to post any longer and that you take that as a positive from todays defeat (I really don't get the connection). again what a great supporter you must be, glad we lost so that a person you have never met no longer joins in on these forums, probably because he has different opinions to you. osprey is a harmless old, sorry osprey, geezer who uses these forums to show his support for the whole team and club and as a way of contacting other fans.
don't stop posting osprey, I may not always like everything you post, but you are often amusing and that's fine by me. anyway if posters like you, who are here regardless of the result disappeared, who would be here when we win? most of the moaners never turn up unless we lose.
as bad as we were, and we were bad, I still cant get my head around a saints fan betting on us to lose. must have been delighted when SRL put the ball over. well I suppose it must be a nice feeling knowing you've got a bit more money in your pocket!
I've had enough lectures questioning mine and many other fans about their level of loyalty to The Saints from Osprey to last me a lifetime, don't really need another from you thank you.
You see 101. i am a realist, I'd already picked up on the fact that MP did not want to take part in the Europa league and therefore would not make any real attempt to win this game.
I am a believer that you have to do your best in everything you attempt, with today' s team selection our management failed us, their nonchalant approach to the game rubbed off on the players I'm afraid and the result was inevitable.
Only in my humble opinion of course.
firstly costa I never questioned yours or any others `loyalty` what I said was that I don't know any saints fan that would bet real money on his own team losing, and I stand by that! you see I don't know you.
so you see the selected team and instantly think that that team is not good enough to beat any blunderland team? `I am a realist`? always a strange comment from anyone, so do you think that fans like me who thought that the team should have been able to beat blunderland are dreamers? let me remind you that the team selected had mainly first team starters, some coming back from injury and who need game time.
its ok to say that the management failed us with the team selection but you don't mention which players you would have dropped or picked.
as for the result being `inevitable` really? was it? so one long range great but a bit lucky shot against jwp`s chance lalla`s chance, or SRL`s chance? no we had enough chances to win and they went to our `first teamers` who you would have picked. simple thing is we played badly, really badly it happens.
I cant understand why anyone is saying that MP `threw` yesterdays game because he didn't want to win the cup and so get into Europe. people seem to forget the burnley game, that would have been the perfect game if MP really wanted to get knocked out of the cup.
so come on costa, what about yesterdays team selection made you want to put money on your own team losing? you cant have fonte starting as his leg was badly cut up during the hull game, he would have come on if really needed but why risk injuring him further?
Costa Gaz and Co are completely right. What gives you, ospreysaint and strasbourg the right to start questioning how much of a Saints fan a poster is. It comes off as childish and a little spiteful. Have your say and the rest of us will have our say, if you don't agree say so in a polite fashion. The thread is ruined by a few who think they are judge and jury. And looking at the thumbs down on posts, it's plain to see who the culprits are. This is a thread so Saints fans can have their say, even if they are not always positive. Grow up!
WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YES I AM SHOUTING.

FIND ONE POST FROM ME THAT HAS EVER - I REPEAT - EVER - QUESTIONED HOW MUCH OF A SAINTS FAN ANY POSTER IS.

I AM NO ONE'S JUDGE OR JURY AND, UNLIKE YOUR JUDGMENTAL COMMENT HERE, HAVE NEVER JUDGED ANYONE.

BY ALL MEANS POST THINGS THAT MAKE ME SHAKE MY HEAD IN DISBELIEF BUT NEVER, EVER AGAIN MAKE FALSE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ME.
It's Costa Gaz who bet against his own team, nobody else.

Try disagreeing with Costa Gaz at your peril!

I haven't seen Strasbourg Saint question anybody's loyalty on here.

If you are going to accuse him of this you should be prepared to back it up.
sorry that this isn't the negative upset blame everybody post that I promised, I will in future only post like that as I don't want to be positive or be the judge of others, so.

i haven't accused anyone of not supporting saints on this thread, i have in the past on previous threads and the 3 or 4 that i, amongst others, did turned out to be poopey posters in disguise, i even said that costa IS a fan. all i said is that i do not know any saints fan who after seeing a team sheet would bet on saints losing, i don't know any who would bet on us losing without seeing a team sheet. i do know many saints fans who might say or think that we might lose a game but never bet actual money on us losing. i don't know why some cant see that as wrong.
i have been trying to find a post from swaythlingsaint on a game thread after we have won or even drawn a tough game. cant find one yet, but we all support in different ways. don't worry though swaythlingsaint, even though you haven't explained to me why it was gulys fault that we lost or what the guly lovers wish was, or even who they are, you have convinced me that the only way to show my support is to only come on here after a loss and to then moan that it was gulys fault and complain that the happy clappers are judging me and because they turn up regardless of the result they are ruining these threads (the same threads that would be almost empty after a win without them).

i blame guly!!!!!!
Careful 101, to some on here, irony is as lost as a cup tie in Sunderland. :)
point taken stras, i just thought i would jump on the same old blame guly bandwagon so that my posts are popular with the moaners and get lots of thumbs up..................
....oooops i think I've gone and done it again ;0)
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SWAYTHLING SAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Does anyone else find it bizarre that the assistant manager takes charge for cup games.... Just can't get my head around that one. As soon as the team was announced I got a few €'s on a home win, easiest money I'll ever make... we lost before a ball was kicked. Before today I was thinking that we could.possibly finish above Man Utd in the league, not really sure that the club has any intention to attempt this now. One positive to take from today is that Osprey does not comment on here anymore.[/p][/quote]well that's the right attitude, defeatist from the start. I don't know any saints fan who would bet real money on the team losing! it wasn't the easiest money you have ever made though was it, if SRL, a player that no doubt you would have wanted on the team sheet, had scored that chance then you would have lost your money. well at least you've made a few quid out of picking your team to lose! why you think that because of a very poor cup performance that the club no longer wants to push as high up the league as they can is beyond me. I suppose you will be trying to make a bit more money out of wanting saints to lose? nice to see that your delighted that osprey has decided that he no longer wants to post any longer and that you take that as a positive from todays defeat (I really don't get the connection). again what a great supporter you must be, glad we lost so that a person you have never met no longer joins in on these forums, probably because he has different opinions to you. osprey is a harmless old, sorry osprey, geezer who uses these forums to show his support for the whole team and club and as a way of contacting other fans. don't stop posting osprey, I may not always like everything you post, but you are often amusing and that's fine by me. anyway if posters like you, who are here regardless of the result disappeared, who would be here when we win? most of the moaners never turn up unless we lose. as bad as we were, and we were bad, I still cant get my head around a saints fan betting on us to lose. must have been delighted when SRL put the ball over. well I suppose it must be a nice feeling knowing you've got a bit more money in your pocket![/p][/quote]I've had enough lectures questioning mine and many other fans about their level of loyalty to The Saints from Osprey to last me a lifetime, don't really need another from you thank you. You see 101. i am a realist, I'd already picked up on the fact that MP did not want to take part in the Europa league and therefore would not make any real attempt to win this game. I am a believer that you have to do your best in everything you attempt, with today' s team selection our management failed us, their nonchalant approach to the game rubbed off on the players I'm afraid and the result was inevitable. Only in my humble opinion of course.[/p][/quote]firstly costa I never questioned yours or any others `loyalty` what I said was that I don't know any saints fan that would bet real money on his own team losing, and I stand by that! you see I don't know you. so you see the selected team and instantly think that that team is not good enough to beat any blunderland team? `I am a realist`? always a strange comment from anyone, so do you think that fans like me who thought that the team should have been able to beat blunderland are dreamers? let me remind you that the team selected had mainly first team starters, some coming back from injury and who need game time. its ok to say that the management failed us with the team selection but you don't mention which players you would have dropped or picked. as for the result being `inevitable` really? was it? so one long range great but a bit lucky shot against jwp`s chance lalla`s chance, or SRL`s chance? no we had enough chances to win and they went to our `first teamers` who you would have picked. simple thing is we played badly, really badly it happens. I cant understand why anyone is saying that MP `threw` yesterdays game because he didn't want to win the cup and so get into Europe. people seem to forget the burnley game, that would have been the perfect game if MP really wanted to get knocked out of the cup. so come on costa, what about yesterdays team selection made you want to put money on your own team losing? you cant have fonte starting as his leg was badly cut up during the hull game, he would have come on if really needed but why risk injuring him further?[/p][/quote]Costa Gaz and Co are completely right. What gives you, ospreysaint and strasbourg the right to start questioning how much of a Saints fan a poster is. It comes off as childish and a little spiteful. Have your say and the rest of us will have our say, if you don't agree say so in a polite fashion. The thread is ruined by a few who think they are judge and jury. And looking at the thumbs down on posts, it's plain to see who the culprits are. This is a thread so Saints fans can have their say, even if they are not always positive. Grow up![/p][/quote]WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES I AM SHOUTING. FIND ONE POST FROM ME THAT HAS EVER - I REPEAT - EVER - QUESTIONED HOW MUCH OF A SAINTS FAN ANY POSTER IS. I AM NO ONE'S JUDGE OR JURY AND, UNLIKE YOUR JUDGMENTAL COMMENT HERE, HAVE NEVER JUDGED ANYONE. BY ALL MEANS POST THINGS THAT MAKE ME SHAKE MY HEAD IN DISBELIEF BUT NEVER, EVER AGAIN MAKE FALSE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ME.[/p][/quote]It's Costa Gaz who bet against his own team, nobody else. Try disagreeing with Costa Gaz at your peril! I haven't seen Strasbourg Saint question anybody's loyalty on here. If you are going to accuse him of this you should be prepared to back it up.[/p][/quote]sorry that this isn't the negative upset blame everybody post that I promised, I will in future only post like that as I don't want to be positive or be the judge of others, so. i haven't accused anyone of not supporting saints on this thread, i have in the past on previous threads and the 3 or 4 that i, amongst others, did turned out to be poopey posters in disguise, i even said that costa IS a fan. all i said is that i do not know any saints fan who after seeing a team sheet would bet on saints losing, i don't know any who would bet on us losing without seeing a team sheet. i do know many saints fans who might say or think that we might lose a game but never bet actual money on us losing. i don't know why some cant see that as wrong. i have been trying to find a post from swaythlingsaint on a game thread after we have won or even drawn a tough game. cant find one yet, but we all support in different ways. don't worry though swaythlingsaint, even though you haven't explained to me why it was gulys fault that we lost or what the guly lovers wish was, or even who they are, you have convinced me that the only way to show my support is to only come on here after a loss and to then moan that it was gulys fault and complain that the happy clappers are judging me and because they turn up regardless of the result they are ruining these threads (the same threads that would be almost empty after a win without them). i blame guly!!!!!![/p][/quote]Careful 101, to some on here, irony is as lost as a cup tie in Sunderland. :)[/p][/quote]point taken stras, i just thought i would jump on the same old blame guly bandwagon so that my posts are popular with the moaners and get lots of thumbs up.................. ....oooops i think I've gone and done it again ;0) el caballo santos101

10:22pm Sun 16 Feb 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Clever Dick wrote:
doos wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
doos wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
doos wrote:
Enjoy the draw today!!

I'm sure missing out on Wembley and not winning the cup will feel better when you finish 8th. Maybe an open top bus round Southampton holding a big 8!!!??? and then you could put the big 8 in your trophy cabinet next to the paint pot cup.

Southampton yawn! No ambition.
it will feel so much better than a relegation dog fight and the risk of dropping out of the football league. perhaps if you stay up you could go on an open top bus round poopey holding up a big list of debtors and charities/companies your club have done over. you could invite all the nurses and other public sector workers who have been made redundant because you never paid the millions in tax you owed. then you could put a bid pound sign in front of your fa cup to remind everyone that your still trying not to pay for it! poopey yawn no morals and no money!
Ouch, yesterday is till sore isn't is.

I remember the buzz of walking up Wembley way on cup final day and seeing us lift the cup. Even if we play in Gosport and Fareham Sunday league no one can take that from us. Surprised you didn't ty to win something before your owner flogs your talent and club as she hates football.
That's where we differ I suppose.. You're happy to have a very very brief spell of being among the big boys, and loving the trophy you got for beating the ( then) minnows of Cardiff, but when you played a proper team, you lost to Chelsea( as we did to Arsenal) whereas I love that for 30 odd years of the last 40, we've been in the big boys league, and most of my 38 years looking down on our little neighbours in the lower leagues.In terms of the past you lot always harp on about, Wanderers from London won 6 cups, and Old Etonians and Royal Engineers also have two triumphs each, so what does history mean? So when you're playing Fareham, we'll be playing Chelsea or Man Utd etc, and even wanting to check out how you're getting in, most websites, or Sky News etc won't be any use as they don't go that far down in their coverage..it's bad enough now trying to find out how your park football level club is doing, so can't begin to imagine how awful it's going to get for you...
Errr we beat Man United a Old Trafford in the Quarter Finals by playing our strongest side, riding our luck a little and really wanting it.

You were away at Sunderland and didn't even bother!!! Says it all. Enjoy being Charlton for a few years. Safe in mid-table, win nothing and bore everyone.
It does say it all doesn't it. It actually demonstrates that the historic trophies that you put so much store by are of little interest to a club aiming for much higher things. I don't think you will find too many Saints fans bored with the way we have played this season. It would actually be more boring having to read the garbage that you trot out if it weren't for the fact that is keeps us highly amused and gives us never ending demonstrations of your enormous jealousy and inferiority complex. As I said yesterday p1$$ off back to your failed laughing stock of a club before it disappears completely.
thing is CD that this little fishy fails to realise that we can afford our first eleven, they never could afford the players in that cup tie. that's why their scraping along the bottom of the football league just a few short years later. the demise of poopey has been nothing short of historic.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doos[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doos[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doos[/bold] wrote: Enjoy the draw today!! I'm sure missing out on Wembley and not winning the cup will feel better when you finish 8th. Maybe an open top bus round Southampton holding a big 8!!!??? and then you could put the big 8 in your trophy cabinet next to the paint pot cup. Southampton yawn! No ambition.[/p][/quote]it will feel so much better than a relegation dog fight and the risk of dropping out of the football league. perhaps if you stay up you could go on an open top bus round poopey holding up a big list of debtors and charities/companies your club have done over. you could invite all the nurses and other public sector workers who have been made redundant because you never paid the millions in tax you owed. then you could put a bid pound sign in front of your fa cup to remind everyone that your still trying not to pay for it! poopey yawn no morals and no money![/p][/quote]Ouch, yesterday is till sore isn't is. I remember the buzz of walking up Wembley way on cup final day and seeing us lift the cup. Even if we play in Gosport and Fareham Sunday league no one can take that from us. Surprised you didn't ty to win something before your owner flogs your talent and club as she hates football.[/p][/quote]That's where we differ I suppose.. You're happy to have a very very brief spell of being among the big boys, and loving the trophy you got for beating the ( then) minnows of Cardiff, but when you played a proper team, you lost to Chelsea( as we did to Arsenal) whereas I love that for 30 odd years of the last 40, we've been in the big boys league, and most of my 38 years looking down on our little neighbours in the lower leagues.In terms of the past you lot always harp on about, Wanderers from London won 6 cups, and Old Etonians and Royal Engineers also have two triumphs each, so what does history mean? So when you're playing Fareham, we'll be playing Chelsea or Man Utd etc, and even wanting to check out how you're getting in, most websites, or Sky News etc won't be any use as they don't go that far down in their coverage..it's bad enough now trying to find out how your park football level club is doing, so can't begin to imagine how awful it's going to get for you...[/p][/quote]Errr we beat Man United a Old Trafford in the Quarter Finals by playing our strongest side, riding our luck a little and really wanting it. You were away at Sunderland and didn't even bother!!! Says it all. Enjoy being Charlton for a few years. Safe in mid-table, win nothing and bore everyone.[/p][/quote]It does say it all doesn't it. It actually demonstrates that the historic trophies that you put so much store by are of little interest to a club aiming for much higher things. I don't think you will find too many Saints fans bored with the way we have played this season. It would actually be more boring having to read the garbage that you trot out if it weren't for the fact that is keeps us highly amused and gives us never ending demonstrations of your enormous jealousy and inferiority complex. As I said yesterday p1$$ off back to your failed laughing stock of a club before it disappears completely.[/p][/quote]thing is CD that this little fishy fails to realise that we can afford our first eleven, they never could afford the players in that cup tie. that's why their scraping along the bottom of the football league just a few short years later. the demise of poopey has been nothing short of historic. el caballo santos101

8:17am Mon 17 Feb 14

BracknellSaint says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
doos wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
doos wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
doos wrote:
Enjoy the draw today!!

I'm sure missing out on Wembley and not winning the cup will feel better when you finish 8th. Maybe an open top bus round Southampton holding a big 8!!!??? and then you could put the big 8 in your trophy cabinet next to the paint pot cup.

Southampton yawn! No ambition.
it will feel so much better than a relegation dog fight and the risk of dropping out of the football league. perhaps if you stay up you could go on an open top bus round poopey holding up a big list of debtors and charities/companies your club have done over. you could invite all the nurses and other public sector workers who have been made redundant because you never paid the millions in tax you owed. then you could put a bid pound sign in front of your fa cup to remind everyone that your still trying not to pay for it! poopey yawn no morals and no money!
Ouch, yesterday is till sore isn't is.

I remember the buzz of walking up Wembley way on cup final day and seeing us lift the cup. Even if we play in Gosport and Fareham Sunday league no one can take that from us. Surprised you didn't ty to win something before your owner flogs your talent and club as she hates football.
That's where we differ I suppose.. You're happy to have a very very brief spell of being among the big boys, and loving the trophy you got for beating the ( then) minnows of Cardiff, but when you played a proper team, you lost to Chelsea( as we did to Arsenal) whereas I love that for 30 odd years of the last 40, we've been in the big boys league, and most of my 38 years looking down on our little neighbours in the lower leagues.In terms of the past you lot always harp on about, Wanderers from London won 6 cups, and Old Etonians and Royal Engineers also have two triumphs each, so what does history mean? So when you're playing Fareham, we'll be playing Chelsea or Man Utd etc, and even wanting to check out how you're getting in, most websites, or Sky News etc won't be any use as they don't go that far down in their coverage..it's bad enough now trying to find out how your park football level club is doing, so can't begin to imagine how awful it's going to get for you...
Errr we beat Man United a Old Trafford in the Quarter Finals by playing our strongest side, riding our luck a little and really wanting it.

You were away at Sunderland and didn't even bother!!! Says it all. Enjoy being Charlton for a few years. Safe in mid-table, win nothing and bore everyone.
It does say it all doesn't it. It actually demonstrates that the historic trophies that you put so much store by are of little interest to a club aiming for much higher things. I don't think you will find too many Saints fans bored with the way we have played this season. It would actually be more boring having to read the garbage that you trot out if it weren't for the fact that is keeps us highly amused and gives us never ending demonstrations of your enormous jealousy and inferiority complex. As I said yesterday p1$$ off back to your failed laughing stock of a club before it disappears completely.
thing is CD that this little fishy fails to realise that we can afford our first eleven, they never could afford the players in that cup tie. that's why their scraping along the bottom of the football league just a few short years later. the demise of poopey has been nothing short of historic.
He's kind of proved my point. So, they beat Utd...well done..then they beat lower league minnows in the final. So, a cup run might well be made up of a good performance somewhere, and huge lashings of luck in terms of the draw, or decisions, over those 6 or whatever games.
Which you cannot begin to compare to the levels of performance and consistency needed to survive a 36 game season in the big league..let alone do that for 30 odd years..
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doos[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doos[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doos[/bold] wrote: Enjoy the draw today!! I'm sure missing out on Wembley and not winning the cup will feel better when you finish 8th. Maybe an open top bus round Southampton holding a big 8!!!??? and then you could put the big 8 in your trophy cabinet next to the paint pot cup. Southampton yawn! No ambition.[/p][/quote]it will feel so much better than a relegation dog fight and the risk of dropping out of the football league. perhaps if you stay up you could go on an open top bus round poopey holding up a big list of debtors and charities/companies your club have done over. you could invite all the nurses and other public sector workers who have been made redundant because you never paid the millions in tax you owed. then you could put a bid pound sign in front of your fa cup to remind everyone that your still trying not to pay for it! poopey yawn no morals and no money![/p][/quote]Ouch, yesterday is till sore isn't is. I remember the buzz of walking up Wembley way on cup final day and seeing us lift the cup. Even if we play in Gosport and Fareham Sunday league no one can take that from us. Surprised you didn't ty to win something before your owner flogs your talent and club as she hates football.[/p][/quote]That's where we differ I suppose.. You're happy to have a very very brief spell of being among the big boys, and loving the trophy you got for beating the ( then) minnows of Cardiff, but when you played a proper team, you lost to Chelsea( as we did to Arsenal) whereas I love that for 30 odd years of the last 40, we've been in the big boys league, and most of my 38 years looking down on our little neighbours in the lower leagues.In terms of the past you lot always harp on about, Wanderers from London won 6 cups, and Old Etonians and Royal Engineers also have two triumphs each, so what does history mean? So when you're playing Fareham, we'll be playing Chelsea or Man Utd etc, and even wanting to check out how you're getting in, most websites, or Sky News etc won't be any use as they don't go that far down in their coverage..it's bad enough now trying to find out how your park football level club is doing, so can't begin to imagine how awful it's going to get for you...[/p][/quote]Errr we beat Man United a Old Trafford in the Quarter Finals by playing our strongest side, riding our luck a little and really wanting it. You were away at Sunderland and didn't even bother!!! Says it all. Enjoy being Charlton for a few years. Safe in mid-table, win nothing and bore everyone.[/p][/quote]It does say it all doesn't it. It actually demonstrates that the historic trophies that you put so much store by are of little interest to a club aiming for much higher things. I don't think you will find too many Saints fans bored with the way we have played this season. It would actually be more boring having to read the garbage that you trot out if it weren't for the fact that is keeps us highly amused and gives us never ending demonstrations of your enormous jealousy and inferiority complex. As I said yesterday p1$$ off back to your failed laughing stock of a club before it disappears completely.[/p][/quote]thing is CD that this little fishy fails to realise that we can afford our first eleven, they never could afford the players in that cup tie. that's why their scraping along the bottom of the football league just a few short years later. the demise of poopey has been nothing short of historic.[/p][/quote]He's kind of proved my point. So, they beat Utd...well done..then they beat lower league minnows in the final. So, a cup run might well be made up of a good performance somewhere, and huge lashings of luck in terms of the draw, or decisions, over those 6 or whatever games. Which you cannot begin to compare to the levels of performance and consistency needed to survive a 36 game season in the big league..let alone do that for 30 odd years.. BracknellSaint

9:15am Mon 17 Feb 14

Beer Monster says...

Wozzie wrote:
Nothing to do with team selection they played like they all had a few too many to drink last night. Nowhere close to their usual intensity. Hull Tuesday night and a few drinkies in the hotel in the meantime methinks :D
Funnily enough, this was exactly what I was thinking whilst watching the game unfold. They seemed to be half asleep - far too many passes not completed and the general work rate nowhere near normal.
[quote][p][bold]Wozzie[/bold] wrote: Nothing to do with team selection they played like they all had a few too many to drink last night. Nowhere close to their usual intensity. Hull Tuesday night and a few drinkies in the hotel in the meantime methinks :D[/p][/quote]Funnily enough, this was exactly what I was thinking whilst watching the game unfold. They seemed to be half asleep - far too many passes not completed and the general work rate nowhere near normal. Beer Monster

3:04pm Mon 17 Feb 14

lowe esteem says...

bluewhiteandred wrote:
doos wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
doos wrote:
Enjoy the draw today!!

I'm sure missing out on Wembley and not winning the cup will feel better when you finish 8th. Maybe an open top bus round Southampton holding a big 8!!!??? and then you could put the big 8 in your trophy cabinet next to the paint pot cup.

Southampton yawn! No ambition.
it will feel so much better than a relegation dog fight and the risk of dropping out of the football league. perhaps if you stay up you could go on an open top bus round poopey holding up a big list of debtors and charities/companies your club have done over. you could invite all the nurses and other public sector workers who have been made redundant because you never paid the millions in tax you owed. then you could put a bid pound sign in front of your fa cup to remind everyone that your still trying not to pay for it! poopey yawn no morals and no money!
Ouch, yesterday is till sore isn't is.

I remember the buzz of walking up Wembley way on cup final day and seeing us lift the cup. Even if we play in Gosport and Fareham Sunday league no one can take that from us. Surprised you didn't ty to win something before your owner flogs your talent and club as she hates football.
Typical Saints fans your In financial trouble and in administration SAINTS FANS DO NOTHING ! Marcus comes along WE ARE OK .
The FA cup and Capital cup is in danger because of lack of interest because of top stars are being rested and Crowds drop SAINTS FANS DO NOTHING ! Well perhaps you don't care you don't want to win anything.
I despair your more interested if Pompey go out of the league are SAINTS fans football lovers .
I must remember to punch a player if he's not doing well, assuming I 'own' my club that is...?
[quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doos[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doos[/bold] wrote: Enjoy the draw today!! I'm sure missing out on Wembley and not winning the cup will feel better when you finish 8th. Maybe an open top bus round Southampton holding a big 8!!!??? and then you could put the big 8 in your trophy cabinet next to the paint pot cup. Southampton yawn! No ambition.[/p][/quote]it will feel so much better than a relegation dog fight and the risk of dropping out of the football league. perhaps if you stay up you could go on an open top bus round poopey holding up a big list of debtors and charities/companies your club have done over. you could invite all the nurses and other public sector workers who have been made redundant because you never paid the millions in tax you owed. then you could put a bid pound sign in front of your fa cup to remind everyone that your still trying not to pay for it! poopey yawn no morals and no money![/p][/quote]Ouch, yesterday is till sore isn't is. I remember the buzz of walking up Wembley way on cup final day and seeing us lift the cup. Even if we play in Gosport and Fareham Sunday league no one can take that from us. Surprised you didn't ty to win something before your owner flogs your talent and club as she hates football.[/p][/quote]Typical Saints fans your In financial trouble and in administration SAINTS FANS DO NOTHING ! Marcus comes along WE ARE OK . The FA cup and Capital cup is in danger because of lack of interest because of top stars are being rested and Crowds drop SAINTS FANS DO NOTHING ! Well perhaps you don't care you don't want to win anything. I despair your more interested if Pompey go out of the league are SAINTS fans football lovers .[/p][/quote]I must remember to punch a player if he's not doing well, assuming I 'own' my club that is...? lowe esteem

4:34pm Mon 17 Feb 14

lowe esteem says...

lowe esteem wrote:
SWAYTHLING SAINT wrote:
Well all the Guly fans got their wish and the maestro didn't deliver, as per usual. Shame we still don't have Danny Fox, he would have looked top draw today.
Don't blame Guly, blame me...
Didn't get my lucky Echo 'til after the game, didn't go to the game, but wore a black shirt whilst listening and didn't pick Bart.
Jesus? Not disappointed? Will give you the benefit there-and am starting to understand why some people employ translators.
We looked like the team with our minds on relegation and an 'alternative' Wembley appearance. We must reconsider our 'second strip' as well as our second team when playing the 'Black Cats' -they seriously raise their game when confronted with black and white shirts, with the added bonus of a vilified ex-player to take potshots at (from stand and attack). I could not believe the starting line up, and I stated at the time that we had at least two changes too many, and the gift of hindsight reinforces my view.
Good Luck to the Black Cats who have certainly learnt to play like a Cup team.
Kick in the teeth for the Mush Army that went to Wearside. It really felt like anyone playing out of their skin was going against team orders. Well all the soulless 'mid-table obscurity' apologists can sleep tight in the knowledge that we got to 39 points, produced this gutless display and can now concentrate on consolidating 9th place, whilst waiting for the next batch of home-produced youth to carry us over the line.
Not usually one to really complain, but I love the Saints and the FA Cup and usually travelling to northern outposts. At the moment still can't put this down to a bad day at the office, more like wilful skiving, I'm not happy and sounding off, but unlike others I'm not going to single out individuals for an unbelievably poor club performance.
I was angry, I felt let down, and I was bewildered.
You know, more than 24 hours later, having taken stock, I still feel the same.
Seen us lose at Tranmere, play-off semis at Derby, last game of the season and the Roy Keane 'gesture' -and the other rare and unlikely 'fishy' defeats, but I still cannot get my head around this travesty. I want to buy tickets for Cup games, PL, whatever, but this poses a new dilemma for this fan.

A 'freebie' gesture for the Stadium of Light 'martyrs' would be a starting point "SAINTS"
[quote][p][bold]lowe esteem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SWAYTHLING SAINT[/bold] wrote: Well all the Guly fans got their wish and the maestro didn't deliver, as per usual. Shame we still don't have Danny Fox, he would have looked top draw today.[/p][/quote]Don't blame Guly, blame me... Didn't get my lucky Echo 'til after the game, didn't go to the game, but wore a black shirt whilst listening and didn't pick Bart. Jesus? Not disappointed? Will give you the benefit there-and am starting to understand why some people employ translators. We looked like the team with our minds on relegation and an 'alternative' Wembley appearance. We must reconsider our 'second strip' as well as our second team when playing the 'Black Cats' -they seriously raise their game when confronted with black and white shirts, with the added bonus of a vilified ex-player to take potshots at (from stand and attack). I could not believe the starting line up, and I stated at the time that we had at least two changes too many, and the gift of hindsight reinforces my view. Good Luck to the Black Cats who have certainly learnt to play like a Cup team. Kick in the teeth for the Mush Army that went to Wearside. It really felt like anyone playing out of their skin was going against team orders. Well all the soulless 'mid-table obscurity' apologists can sleep tight in the knowledge that we got to 39 points, produced this gutless display and can now concentrate on consolidating 9th place, whilst waiting for the next batch of home-produced youth to carry us over the line. Not usually one to really complain, but I love the Saints and the FA Cup and usually travelling to northern outposts. At the moment still can't put this down to a bad day at the office, more like wilful skiving, I'm not happy and sounding off, but unlike others I'm not going to single out individuals for an unbelievably poor club performance.[/p][/quote]I was angry, I felt let down, and I was bewildered. You know, more than 24 hours later, having taken stock, I still feel the same. Seen us lose at Tranmere, play-off semis at Derby, last game of the season and the Roy Keane 'gesture' -and the other rare and unlikely 'fishy' defeats, but I still cannot get my head around this travesty. I want to buy tickets for Cup games, PL, whatever, but this poses a new dilemma for this fan. A 'freebie' gesture for the Stadium of Light 'martyrs' would be a starting point "SAINTS" lowe esteem

10:19am Thu 20 Feb 14

alan.of.eastleigh says...

Haha. I have never seen so many negative comments about a team 'not being bothered' by so many fans who could not be bothered to go up to Sunderland themselves and support their team. Talk about irony!!
Haha. I have never seen so many negative comments about a team 'not being bothered' by so many fans who could not be bothered to go up to Sunderland themselves and support their team. Talk about irony!! alan.of.eastleigh

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