Lovren out for up to a month

Basingstoke Gazette: Dejan Lovren Dejan Lovren

Dejan Lvoren will be out for three-four weeks, according to the Croatian FA.

The £8.5m centre half was stretchered off in the closing stages of Saturday’s 2-2 draw with Sunderland after damaging his ankle ligaments.

Lovren was initially to be taken to hospital after the game before it was decided he could leave the ground wearing a protective boot.

The Croatian international defender is reported by his national association, who is set to represent at this summer’s World Cup, to be missing for three-four weeks.

If that is correct it would mean Lovren would miss the FA Cup tie with Yeovil, Premier League games against Arsenal, Fulham, Stoke, and, potentially, any FA Cup fifth round tie and a top flight trip to Hull.

With Lovren out for a relatively modest amount of time and Jos Hooiveld and Maya Yoshida as backups, it might not prompt Mauricio Pochettino into moving into the transfer market during what is going to be a costly January for any club given the lack of moves at the top level.

Saints are still waiting on a full diagnosis for Gaston Ramirez, but he is expected to be out for longer.

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3:13pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Jesus_02 says...

We will not panic buy... cant see us finishing highter than 9th though
We will not panic buy... cant see us finishing highter than 9th though Jesus_02
  • Score: 10

3:14pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Poglong Perry says...

We need to make use of this transfer window - NOW!
We need to make use of this transfer window - NOW! Poglong Perry
  • Score: -3

3:21pm Tue 21 Jan 14

SFCOLDBOY says...

Caused by another useless decision by a ref.
Instead of stopping the game to send off Brown for his"tackle" on Ramires, he allows the game to continue, seconds later the above story is the result.
Generally the refereeing has become complete cr@p this year.
I know people say it's became an impossible job,yes they are human and I believe they don't cheat but their inconsistency frustrates both the players and the supporters.
Caused by another useless decision by a ref. Instead of stopping the game to send off Brown for his"tackle" on Ramires, he allows the game to continue, seconds later the above story is the result. Generally the refereeing has become complete cr@p this year. I know people say it's became an impossible job,yes they are human and I believe they don't cheat but their inconsistency frustrates both the players and the supporters. SFCOLDBOY
  • Score: 42

3:22pm Tue 21 Jan 14

COYRlukeCOYR says...

We need a CB. Yoshida and Hoovield are not up to it in my opinion and it's just going to be agonizing to watch them make horrific individual errors. People ought to remember that Mopo can't dip into the transfer market until we have a chairman, the chairman is the one who organises and oversees the transfers, hes essentially the man in the middle of the manager and the owner. We need a chairman asap. One who picks up where Cortese left off.. our hopes and ambitions for the future BETTER NOT BE DASHED!!

UTS COYR
We need a CB. Yoshida and Hoovield are not up to it in my opinion and it's just going to be agonizing to watch them make horrific individual errors. People ought to remember that Mopo can't dip into the transfer market until we have a chairman, the chairman is the one who organises and oversees the transfers, hes essentially the man in the middle of the manager and the owner. We need a chairman asap. One who picks up where Cortese left off.. our hopes and ambitions for the future BETTER NOT BE DASHED!! UTS COYR COYRlukeCOYR
  • Score: 9

3:30pm Tue 21 Jan 14

CB FRY LIVES says...

It will be a pointer of Katharina's intentions to see if we spend any money this month.Another centre back is a must for many fans.David Astori is still available i believe although Man U have been sniffing around for him.I say go for him.
If we dont get cover in then what about Jack Stephens.He has a squad number but we have seen next to nothing of him this season.He has England caps at under 18 level so he must have the potential to break through.Worth a place on the bench against Yeovil at least.And then there is Aaron Martin who i assume is still at the club although as far as i am aware he hasn't been allocatted a squad number this season.Tadanari Lee had a squad number and with him going off there should be a spare squad number going begging.so if there is no new centre back coming in I can't see any harm in getting Martin into the squad to the end of the season at least. because if Fonte,Jos or Yoshida getting injured we will be in trouble.
In the premier league we seem to be in a mini league of our own stranded in ninth postition.We will have to go some to qualify for europe via the league so i think a good FA cup run is essential this season.On paper we have as good as chance as any team still left in the competition of winning the FA CUP..Hopefully without being sucked down into a relegation fight.
COYR
It will be a pointer of Katharina's intentions to see if we spend any money this month.Another centre back is a must for many fans.David Astori is still available i believe although Man U have been sniffing around for him.I say go for him. If we dont get cover in then what about Jack Stephens.He has a squad number but we have seen next to nothing of him this season.He has England caps at under 18 level so he must have the potential to break through.Worth a place on the bench against Yeovil at least.And then there is Aaron Martin who i assume is still at the club although as far as i am aware he hasn't been allocatted a squad number this season.Tadanari Lee had a squad number and with him going off there should be a spare squad number going begging.so if there is no new centre back coming in I can't see any harm in getting Martin into the squad to the end of the season at least. because if Fonte,Jos or Yoshida getting injured we will be in trouble. In the premier league we seem to be in a mini league of our own stranded in ninth postition.We will have to go some to qualify for europe via the league so i think a good FA cup run is essential this season.On paper we have as good as chance as any team still left in the competition of winning the FA CUP..Hopefully without being sucked down into a relegation fight. COYR CB FRY LIVES
  • Score: 3

3:34pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Sadoldgitte says...

SFCOLDBOY wrote:
Caused by another useless decision by a ref.
Instead of stopping the game to send off Brown for his"tackle" on Ramires, he allows the game to continue, seconds later the above story is the result.
Generally the refereeing has become complete cr@p this year.
I know people say it's became an impossible job,yes they are human and I believe they don't cheat but their inconsistency frustrates both the players and the supporters.
The analysis on MotD showed that it wasn't a foul. Our problem has been that we only have one decent centre half. Fonte is ok when he plays with Lovren but it all goes Pete Tong with Yoshida or Hoovield. The drop in our league position has been due to lack of depth in the squad. Rather than spend a fortune on Osvaldo and Ramirez we should have been more prudent. Still, if you have one person calling the shots this is what happens. Perhaps with a board and differing opinions we will see better signings?
[quote][p][bold]SFCOLDBOY[/bold] wrote: Caused by another useless decision by a ref. Instead of stopping the game to send off Brown for his"tackle" on Ramires, he allows the game to continue, seconds later the above story is the result. Generally the refereeing has become complete cr@p this year. I know people say it's became an impossible job,yes they are human and I believe they don't cheat but their inconsistency frustrates both the players and the supporters.[/p][/quote]The analysis on MotD showed that it wasn't a foul. Our problem has been that we only have one decent centre half. Fonte is ok when he plays with Lovren but it all goes Pete Tong with Yoshida or Hoovield. The drop in our league position has been due to lack of depth in the squad. Rather than spend a fortune on Osvaldo and Ramirez we should have been more prudent. Still, if you have one person calling the shots this is what happens. Perhaps with a board and differing opinions we will see better signings? Sadoldgitte
  • Score: 0

3:42pm Tue 21 Jan 14

seany1966 says...

A massive loss, go 3 at the until he returns and only risk bringing in Yoshida for the Arsenal game ....
Also now Paul Ince has been sacked what aabout going for Tom Ince a great replacement for Gaston...
A massive loss, go 3 at the until he returns and only risk bringing in Yoshida for the Arsenal game .... Also now Paul Ince has been sacked what aabout going for Tom Ince a great replacement for Gaston... seany1966
  • Score: 5

3:43pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Norwegian Saint says...

This year is now a "fun" year

Fun due to us being safe...
Fun looking down and not worried...
Fun that Europe is in our five year plan...
Fun we have an owner that thinks like her dad...
Fun we might have a little cup run...
Fun watching all other clubs jealousy of our set-up...
Fun watching your "rivals" struggling to stay in league 4...
Fun calling Poopey "rivals" as they're so far behind...
Fun watching an ex-Saint try to keep the "rivals" up...
Fun looking at our squad and being proud...
Fun with our brilliant manager at the helm...
Fun is watching Man U, Arsenal and Chelsea fans wanting all our players...

Yes, this season is a fun one. Without the injuries since start of December, I think we could have looked at fifth spot.
Looking forward to the "fun" arsenal game where we will give them a hellll of a beating!

Fun, fun, fuuuuuunnnnnn!!!
This year is now a "fun" year Fun due to us being safe... Fun looking down and not worried... Fun that Europe is in our five year plan... Fun we have an owner that thinks like her dad... Fun we might have a little cup run... Fun watching all other clubs jealousy of our set-up... Fun watching your "rivals" struggling to stay in league 4... Fun calling Poopey "rivals" as they're so far behind... Fun watching an ex-Saint try to keep the "rivals" up... Fun looking at our squad and being proud... Fun with our brilliant manager at the helm... Fun is watching Man U, Arsenal and Chelsea fans wanting all our players... Yes, this season is a fun one. Without the injuries since start of December, I think we could have looked at fifth spot. Looking forward to the "fun" arsenal game where we will give them a hellll of a beating! Fun, fun, fuuuuuunnnnnn!!! Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 20

3:44pm Tue 21 Jan 14

seany1966 says...

seany1966 wrote:
A massive loss, go 3 at the until he returns and only risk bringing in Yoshida for the Arsenal game .... Also now Paul Ince has been sacked what aabout going for Tom Ince a great replacement for Gaston...
3 at the back......whoops
[quote][p][bold]seany1966[/bold] wrote: A massive loss, go 3 at the until he returns and only risk bringing in Yoshida for the Arsenal game .... Also now Paul Ince has been sacked what aabout going for Tom Ince a great replacement for Gaston...[/p][/quote]3 at the back......whoops seany1966
  • Score: 8

3:44pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Norwegian Saint says...

Oh.... And get back soon DJ!
Oh.... And get back soon DJ! Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 3

3:59pm Tue 21 Jan 14

SouthLondonSaint says...

I've got tickets for Yeovil, arsenal and fulham, obvisouly Lovren wouldn't play against Yeovil but the other two games he is essential (even fulham) am worried about every game he don't play in. Was quietly confident of getting a draw against Arsenal and smashing fulham like we did to Hull. Yoshida or hooiveld need to stand up and be counted. Impress me...

Bring the noise on Saturday

UP THE SAINTS!
I've got tickets for Yeovil, arsenal and fulham, obvisouly Lovren wouldn't play against Yeovil but the other two games he is essential (even fulham) am worried about every game he don't play in. Was quietly confident of getting a draw against Arsenal and smashing fulham like we did to Hull. Yoshida or hooiveld need to stand up and be counted. Impress me... Bring the noise on Saturday UP THE SAINTS! SouthLondonSaint
  • Score: 6

4:11pm Tue 21 Jan 14

J7junctionseven says...

SFCOLDBOY wrote:
Caused by another useless decision by a ref.
Instead of stopping the game to send off Brown for his"tackle" on Ramires, he allows the game to continue, seconds later the above story is the result.
Generally the refereeing has become complete cr@p this year.
I know people say it's became an impossible job,yes they are human and I believe they don't cheat but their inconsistency frustrates both the players and the supporters.
Agree
[quote][p][bold]SFCOLDBOY[/bold] wrote: Caused by another useless decision by a ref. Instead of stopping the game to send off Brown for his"tackle" on Ramires, he allows the game to continue, seconds later the above story is the result. Generally the refereeing has become complete cr@p this year. I know people say it's became an impossible job,yes they are human and I believe they don't cheat but their inconsistency frustrates both the players and the supporters.[/p][/quote]Agree J7junctionseven
  • Score: 6

4:12pm Tue 21 Jan 14

J7junctionseven says...

Sadoldgitte wrote:
SFCOLDBOY wrote:
Caused by another useless decision by a ref.
Instead of stopping the game to send off Brown for his"tackle" on Ramires, he allows the game to continue, seconds later the above story is the result.
Generally the refereeing has become complete cr@p this year.
I know people say it's became an impossible job,yes they are human and I believe they don't cheat but their inconsistency frustrates both the players and the supporters.
The analysis on MotD showed that it wasn't a foul. Our problem has been that we only have one decent centre half. Fonte is ok when he plays with Lovren but it all goes Pete Tong with Yoshida or Hoovield. The drop in our league position has been due to lack of depth in the squad. Rather than spend a fortune on Osvaldo and Ramirez we should have been more prudent. Still, if you have one person calling the shots this is what happens. Perhaps with a board and differing opinions we will see better signings?
MoTD analysis is early a bad s the refs!
[quote][p][bold]Sadoldgitte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFCOLDBOY[/bold] wrote: Caused by another useless decision by a ref. Instead of stopping the game to send off Brown for his"tackle" on Ramires, he allows the game to continue, seconds later the above story is the result. Generally the refereeing has become complete cr@p this year. I know people say it's became an impossible job,yes they are human and I believe they don't cheat but their inconsistency frustrates both the players and the supporters.[/p][/quote]The analysis on MotD showed that it wasn't a foul. Our problem has been that we only have one decent centre half. Fonte is ok when he plays with Lovren but it all goes Pete Tong with Yoshida or Hoovield. The drop in our league position has been due to lack of depth in the squad. Rather than spend a fortune on Osvaldo and Ramirez we should have been more prudent. Still, if you have one person calling the shots this is what happens. Perhaps with a board and differing opinions we will see better signings?[/p][/quote]MoTD analysis is early a bad s the refs! J7junctionseven
  • Score: 5

4:13pm Tue 21 Jan 14

J7junctionseven says...

Nearly.....even
Nearly.....even J7junctionseven
  • Score: 0

4:31pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Costa Baz says...

Arsenal will be salivating at the news that Hooiveld or Yoshida will be facing them, next Tuesday.

Dejan will be missed, as will the 2 points we left at Sunderland.

Perhaps we can get special dispensation to put out 12 players, instead of 11, against Arsenal, as they, presumably, will have the ref in their pocket?
Arsenal will be salivating at the news that Hooiveld or Yoshida will be facing them, next Tuesday. Dejan will be missed, as will the 2 points we left at Sunderland. Perhaps we can get special dispensation to put out 12 players, instead of 11, against Arsenal, as they, presumably, will have the ref in their pocket? Costa Baz
  • Score: 1

4:36pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
We will not panic buy... cant see us finishing highter than 9th though
We need a CB anyway so its not really a panic buy.
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: We will not panic buy... cant see us finishing highter than 9th though[/p][/quote]We need a CB anyway so its not really a panic buy. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 7

4:51pm Tue 21 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Costa Baz wrote:
Arsenal will be salivating at the news that Hooiveld or Yoshida will be facing them, next Tuesday.

Dejan will be missed, as will the 2 points we left at Sunderland.

Perhaps we can get special dispensation to put out 12 players, instead of 11, against Arsenal, as they, presumably, will have the ref in their pocket?
Don't think Lee Mason is an Arsenal supporter!
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: Arsenal will be salivating at the news that Hooiveld or Yoshida will be facing them, next Tuesday. Dejan will be missed, as will the 2 points we left at Sunderland. Perhaps we can get special dispensation to put out 12 players, instead of 11, against Arsenal, as they, presumably, will have the ref in their pocket?[/p][/quote]Don't think Lee Mason is an Arsenal supporter! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

4:52pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

Just looking at all the guff written about Wes Brown's tackle on Gaston. In my opinion it was a clear foul. The only question should have been whether it was a 'lunge' by Brown at Gaston in which case Brown should have been sent off. Here is why.

See Rule 12 of the Laws of the game and the FA's guidance on how to interpret it.

Rule 12 states that direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a player makes a tackle in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force.

“Careless” means that the player has shown a lack of attention or
consideration when making a challenge or that he acted without precaution.
• No further disciplinary sanction is needed if a foul is judged to be careless
“Reckless” means that the player has acted with complete disregard to the
danger to, or consequences for, his opponent.
• A player who plays in a reckless manner must be cautioned
“Using excessive force” means that the player has far exceeded the necessary
use of force and is in danger of injuring his opponent.
• A player who uses excessive force must be sent off

To me Brown is guilty of all or any of the above.

In addition, a tackle that endangers the safety of an opponent must be sanctioned as serious foul play. Brown's follow through clearly endangered Gaston's safety - anyone who has seen the photos of the challenge can see that and the end result speaks volumes.

In addition, the FA guidance states that a player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play. There is a lot of rubbish talked about whether a tackles is from behind or not and whether it was two footed. As you can see from the guidance, none of that matters. What counts is whether excessive force is used that endangers the safety of an opponent.

Whether a player has touched the ball first is only relevant in the context of serious foul play and even then only in helping the referee decide if the player lunged 'at' his opponent. It is not relevant in deciding whether the tackle was executed in a careless or reckless manner or whether excessive force was used.

A player who is guilty of serious foul play should be sent off and play is
restarted with a direct free kick from the position where the offence occurred
(see Law 13 – Position of free kick) or a penalty kick (if the offence occurred
inside the offender’s penalty area
Just looking at all the guff written about Wes Brown's tackle on Gaston. In my opinion it was a clear foul. The only question should have been whether it was a 'lunge' by Brown at Gaston in which case Brown should have been sent off. Here is why. See Rule 12 of the Laws of the game and the FA's guidance on how to interpret it. Rule 12 states that direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a player makes a tackle in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force. “Careless” means that the player has shown a lack of attention or consideration when making a challenge or that he acted without precaution. • No further disciplinary sanction is needed if a foul is judged to be careless “Reckless” means that the player has acted with complete disregard to the danger to, or consequences for, his opponent. • A player who plays in a reckless manner must be cautioned “Using excessive force” means that the player has far exceeded the necessary use of force and is in danger of injuring his opponent. • A player who uses excessive force must be sent off To me Brown is guilty of all or any of the above. In addition, a tackle that endangers the safety of an opponent must be sanctioned as serious foul play. Brown's follow through clearly endangered Gaston's safety - anyone who has seen the photos of the challenge can see that and the end result speaks volumes. In addition, the FA guidance states that a player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play. There is a lot of rubbish talked about whether a tackles is from behind or not and whether it was two footed. As you can see from the guidance, none of that matters. What counts is whether excessive force is used that endangers the safety of an opponent. Whether a player has touched the ball first is only relevant in the context of serious foul play and even then only in helping the referee decide if the player lunged 'at' his opponent. It is not relevant in deciding whether the tackle was executed in a careless or reckless manner or whether excessive force was used. A player who is guilty of serious foul play should be sent off and play is restarted with a direct free kick from the position where the offence occurred (see Law 13 – Position of free kick) or a penalty kick (if the offence occurred inside the offender’s penalty area Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
  • Score: 14

4:56pm Tue 21 Jan 14

st1halo says...

Hopefully Victor coming back soon will provide some cover for the loss of Dejan. He will be missed though.

STID
Hopefully Victor coming back soon will provide some cover for the loss of Dejan. He will be missed though. STID st1halo
  • Score: 7

4:57pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Just looking at all the guff written about Wes Brown's tackle on Gaston. In my opinion it was a clear foul. The only question should have been whether it was a 'lunge' by Brown at Gaston in which case Brown should have been sent off. Here is why.

See Rule 12 of the Laws of the game and the FA's guidance on how to interpret it.

Rule 12 states that direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a player makes a tackle in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force.

“Careless” means that the player has shown a lack of attention or
consideration when making a challenge or that he acted without precaution.
• No further disciplinary sanction is needed if a foul is judged to be careless
“Reckless” means that the player has acted with complete disregard to the
danger to, or consequences for, his opponent.
• A player who plays in a reckless manner must be cautioned
“Using excessive force” means that the player has far exceeded the necessary
use of force and is in danger of injuring his opponent.
• A player who uses excessive force must be sent off

To me Brown is guilty of all or any of the above.

In addition, a tackle that endangers the safety of an opponent must be sanctioned as serious foul play. Brown's follow through clearly endangered Gaston's safety - anyone who has seen the photos of the challenge can see that and the end result speaks volumes.

In addition, the FA guidance states that a player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play. There is a lot of rubbish talked about whether a tackles is from behind or not and whether it was two footed. As you can see from the guidance, none of that matters. What counts is whether excessive force is used that endangers the safety of an opponent.

Whether a player has touched the ball first is only relevant in the context of serious foul play and even then only in helping the referee decide if the player lunged 'at' his opponent. It is not relevant in deciding whether the tackle was executed in a careless or reckless manner or whether excessive force was used.

A player who is guilty of serious foul play should be sent off and play is
restarted with a direct free kick from the position where the offence occurred
(see Law 13 – Position of free kick) or a penalty kick (if the offence occurred
inside the offender’s penalty area
Sorry about that. Just pees me off when people talk about two footed tackles, tackles from behind, touching the ball first, etc.
[quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: Just looking at all the guff written about Wes Brown's tackle on Gaston. In my opinion it was a clear foul. The only question should have been whether it was a 'lunge' by Brown at Gaston in which case Brown should have been sent off. Here is why. See Rule 12 of the Laws of the game and the FA's guidance on how to interpret it. Rule 12 states that direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a player makes a tackle in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force. “Careless” means that the player has shown a lack of attention or consideration when making a challenge or that he acted without precaution. • No further disciplinary sanction is needed if a foul is judged to be careless “Reckless” means that the player has acted with complete disregard to the danger to, or consequences for, his opponent. • A player who plays in a reckless manner must be cautioned “Using excessive force” means that the player has far exceeded the necessary use of force and is in danger of injuring his opponent. • A player who uses excessive force must be sent off To me Brown is guilty of all or any of the above. In addition, a tackle that endangers the safety of an opponent must be sanctioned as serious foul play. Brown's follow through clearly endangered Gaston's safety - anyone who has seen the photos of the challenge can see that and the end result speaks volumes. In addition, the FA guidance states that a player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play. There is a lot of rubbish talked about whether a tackles is from behind or not and whether it was two footed. As you can see from the guidance, none of that matters. What counts is whether excessive force is used that endangers the safety of an opponent. Whether a player has touched the ball first is only relevant in the context of serious foul play and even then only in helping the referee decide if the player lunged 'at' his opponent. It is not relevant in deciding whether the tackle was executed in a careless or reckless manner or whether excessive force was used. A player who is guilty of serious foul play should be sent off and play is restarted with a direct free kick from the position where the offence occurred (see Law 13 – Position of free kick) or a penalty kick (if the offence occurred inside the offender’s penalty area[/p][/quote]Sorry about that. Just pees me off when people talk about two footed tackles, tackles from behind, touching the ball first, etc. Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
  • Score: 4

4:58pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Alicesdad says...

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Just looking at all the guff written about Wes Brown's tackle on Gaston. In my opinion it was a clear foul. The only question should have been whether it was a 'lunge' by Brown at Gaston in which case Brown should have been sent off. Here is why.

See Rule 12 of the Laws of the game and the FA's guidance on how to interpret it.

Rule 12 states that direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a player makes a tackle in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force.

“Careless” means that the player has shown a lack of attention or
consideration when making a challenge or that he acted without precaution.
• No further disciplinary sanction is needed if a foul is judged to be careless
“Reckless” means that the player has acted with complete disregard to the
danger to, or consequences for, his opponent.
• A player who plays in a reckless manner must be cautioned
“Using excessive force” means that the player has far exceeded the necessary
use of force and is in danger of injuring his opponent.
• A player who uses excessive force must be sent off

To me Brown is guilty of all or any of the above.

In addition, a tackle that endangers the safety of an opponent must be sanctioned as serious foul play. Brown's follow through clearly endangered Gaston's safety - anyone who has seen the photos of the challenge can see that and the end result speaks volumes.

In addition, the FA guidance states that a player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play. There is a lot of rubbish talked about whether a tackles is from behind or not and whether it was two footed. As you can see from the guidance, none of that matters. What counts is whether excessive force is used that endangers the safety of an opponent.

Whether a player has touched the ball first is only relevant in the context of serious foul play and even then only in helping the referee decide if the player lunged 'at' his opponent. It is not relevant in deciding whether the tackle was executed in a careless or reckless manner or whether excessive force was used.

A player who is guilty of serious foul play should be sent off and play is
restarted with a direct free kick from the position where the offence occurred
(see Law 13 – Position of free kick) or a penalty kick (if the offence occurred
inside the offender’s penalty area
B**dy hell this is enough to issue a warrant for his immediatre arrest.
Book him Danno. Murder 1
[quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: Just looking at all the guff written about Wes Brown's tackle on Gaston. In my opinion it was a clear foul. The only question should have been whether it was a 'lunge' by Brown at Gaston in which case Brown should have been sent off. Here is why. See Rule 12 of the Laws of the game and the FA's guidance on how to interpret it. Rule 12 states that direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a player makes a tackle in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force. “Careless” means that the player has shown a lack of attention or consideration when making a challenge or that he acted without precaution. • No further disciplinary sanction is needed if a foul is judged to be careless “Reckless” means that the player has acted with complete disregard to the danger to, or consequences for, his opponent. • A player who plays in a reckless manner must be cautioned “Using excessive force” means that the player has far exceeded the necessary use of force and is in danger of injuring his opponent. • A player who uses excessive force must be sent off To me Brown is guilty of all or any of the above. In addition, a tackle that endangers the safety of an opponent must be sanctioned as serious foul play. Brown's follow through clearly endangered Gaston's safety - anyone who has seen the photos of the challenge can see that and the end result speaks volumes. In addition, the FA guidance states that a player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play. There is a lot of rubbish talked about whether a tackles is from behind or not and whether it was two footed. As you can see from the guidance, none of that matters. What counts is whether excessive force is used that endangers the safety of an opponent. Whether a player has touched the ball first is only relevant in the context of serious foul play and even then only in helping the referee decide if the player lunged 'at' his opponent. It is not relevant in deciding whether the tackle was executed in a careless or reckless manner or whether excessive force was used. A player who is guilty of serious foul play should be sent off and play is restarted with a direct free kick from the position where the offence occurred (see Law 13 – Position of free kick) or a penalty kick (if the offence occurred inside the offender’s penalty area[/p][/quote]B**dy hell this is enough to issue a warrant for his immediatre arrest. Book him Danno. Murder 1 Alicesdad
  • Score: 2

5:00pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Alicesdad says...

This is a setback but it won't affect the Caribou Plan.
This is a setback but it won't affect the Caribou Plan. Alicesdad
  • Score: -2

5:03pm Tue 21 Jan 14

warrens 76 says...

8ugger!
8ugger! warrens 76
  • Score: 0

5:05pm Tue 21 Jan 14

warrens 76 says...

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Just looking at all the guff written about Wes Brown's tackle on Gaston. In my opinion it was a clear foul. The only question should have been whether it was a 'lunge' by Brown at Gaston in which case Brown should have been sent off. Here is why.

See Rule 12 of the Laws of the game and the FA's guidance on how to interpret it.

Rule 12 states that direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a player makes a tackle in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force.

“Careless” means that the player has shown a lack of attention or
consideration when making a challenge or that he acted without precaution.
• No further disciplinary sanction is needed if a foul is judged to be careless
“Reckless” means that the player has acted with complete disregard to the
danger to, or consequences for, his opponent.
• A player who plays in a reckless manner must be cautioned
“Using excessive force” means that the player has far exceeded the necessary
use of force and is in danger of injuring his opponent.
• A player who uses excessive force must be sent off

To me Brown is guilty of all or any of the above.

In addition, a tackle that endangers the safety of an opponent must be sanctioned as serious foul play. Brown's follow through clearly endangered Gaston's safety - anyone who has seen the photos of the challenge can see that and the end result speaks volumes.

In addition, the FA guidance states that a player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play. There is a lot of rubbish talked about whether a tackles is from behind or not and whether it was two footed. As you can see from the guidance, none of that matters. What counts is whether excessive force is used that endangers the safety of an opponent.

Whether a player has touched the ball first is only relevant in the context of serious foul play and even then only in helping the referee decide if the player lunged 'at' his opponent. It is not relevant in deciding whether the tackle was executed in a careless or reckless manner or whether excessive force was used.

A player who is guilty of serious foul play should be sent off and play is
restarted with a direct free kick from the position where the offence occurred
(see Law 13 – Position of free kick) or a penalty kick (if the offence occurred
inside the offender’s penalty area
Those winter evenings must fly by..
[quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: Just looking at all the guff written about Wes Brown's tackle on Gaston. In my opinion it was a clear foul. The only question should have been whether it was a 'lunge' by Brown at Gaston in which case Brown should have been sent off. Here is why. See Rule 12 of the Laws of the game and the FA's guidance on how to interpret it. Rule 12 states that direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a player makes a tackle in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force. “Careless” means that the player has shown a lack of attention or consideration when making a challenge or that he acted without precaution. • No further disciplinary sanction is needed if a foul is judged to be careless “Reckless” means that the player has acted with complete disregard to the danger to, or consequences for, his opponent. • A player who plays in a reckless manner must be cautioned “Using excessive force” means that the player has far exceeded the necessary use of force and is in danger of injuring his opponent. • A player who uses excessive force must be sent off To me Brown is guilty of all or any of the above. In addition, a tackle that endangers the safety of an opponent must be sanctioned as serious foul play. Brown's follow through clearly endangered Gaston's safety - anyone who has seen the photos of the challenge can see that and the end result speaks volumes. In addition, the FA guidance states that a player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play. There is a lot of rubbish talked about whether a tackles is from behind or not and whether it was two footed. As you can see from the guidance, none of that matters. What counts is whether excessive force is used that endangers the safety of an opponent. Whether a player has touched the ball first is only relevant in the context of serious foul play and even then only in helping the referee decide if the player lunged 'at' his opponent. It is not relevant in deciding whether the tackle was executed in a careless or reckless manner or whether excessive force was used. A player who is guilty of serious foul play should be sent off and play is restarted with a direct free kick from the position where the offence occurred (see Law 13 – Position of free kick) or a penalty kick (if the offence occurred inside the offender’s penalty area[/p][/quote]Those winter evenings must fly by.. warrens 76
  • Score: 3

5:08pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Just looking at all the guff written about Wes Brown's tackle on Gaston. In my opinion it was a clear foul. The only question should have been whether it was a 'lunge' by Brown at Gaston in which case Brown should have been sent off. Here is why.

See Rule 12 of the Laws of the game and the FA's guidance on how to interpret it.

Rule 12 states that direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a player makes a tackle in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force.

“Careless” means that the player has shown a lack of attention or
consideration when making a challenge or that he acted without precaution.
• No further disciplinary sanction is needed if a foul is judged to be careless
“Reckless” means that the player has acted with complete disregard to the
danger to, or consequences for, his opponent.
• A player who plays in a reckless manner must be cautioned
“Using excessive force” means that the player has far exceeded the necessary
use of force and is in danger of injuring his opponent.
• A player who uses excessive force must be sent off

To me Brown is guilty of all or any of the above.

In addition, a tackle that endangers the safety of an opponent must be sanctioned as serious foul play. Brown's follow through clearly endangered Gaston's safety - anyone who has seen the photos of the challenge can see that and the end result speaks volumes.

In addition, the FA guidance states that a player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play. There is a lot of rubbish talked about whether a tackles is from behind or not and whether it was two footed. As you can see from the guidance, none of that matters. What counts is whether excessive force is used that endangers the safety of an opponent.

Whether a player has touched the ball first is only relevant in the context of serious foul play and even then only in helping the referee decide if the player lunged 'at' his opponent. It is not relevant in deciding whether the tackle was executed in a careless or reckless manner or whether excessive force was used.

A player who is guilty of serious foul play should be sent off and play is
restarted with a direct free kick from the position where the offence occurred
(see Law 13 – Position of free kick) or a penalty kick (if the offence occurred
inside the offender’s penalty area
Those winter evenings must fly by..
lol, between jobs...
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: Just looking at all the guff written about Wes Brown's tackle on Gaston. In my opinion it was a clear foul. The only question should have been whether it was a 'lunge' by Brown at Gaston in which case Brown should have been sent off. Here is why. See Rule 12 of the Laws of the game and the FA's guidance on how to interpret it. Rule 12 states that direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a player makes a tackle in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force. “Careless” means that the player has shown a lack of attention or consideration when making a challenge or that he acted without precaution. • No further disciplinary sanction is needed if a foul is judged to be careless “Reckless” means that the player has acted with complete disregard to the danger to, or consequences for, his opponent. • A player who plays in a reckless manner must be cautioned “Using excessive force” means that the player has far exceeded the necessary use of force and is in danger of injuring his opponent. • A player who uses excessive force must be sent off To me Brown is guilty of all or any of the above. In addition, a tackle that endangers the safety of an opponent must be sanctioned as serious foul play. Brown's follow through clearly endangered Gaston's safety - anyone who has seen the photos of the challenge can see that and the end result speaks volumes. In addition, the FA guidance states that a player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play. There is a lot of rubbish talked about whether a tackles is from behind or not and whether it was two footed. As you can see from the guidance, none of that matters. What counts is whether excessive force is used that endangers the safety of an opponent. Whether a player has touched the ball first is only relevant in the context of serious foul play and even then only in helping the referee decide if the player lunged 'at' his opponent. It is not relevant in deciding whether the tackle was executed in a careless or reckless manner or whether excessive force was used. A player who is guilty of serious foul play should be sent off and play is restarted with a direct free kick from the position where the offence occurred (see Law 13 – Position of free kick) or a penalty kick (if the offence occurred inside the offender’s penalty area[/p][/quote]Those winter evenings must fly by..[/p][/quote]lol, between jobs... Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
  • Score: 1

5:08pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Just looking at all the guff written about Wes Brown's tackle on Gaston. In my opinion it was a clear foul. The only question should have been whether it was a 'lunge' by Brown at Gaston in which case Brown should have been sent off. Here is why.

See Rule 12 of the Laws of the game and the FA's guidance on how to interpret it.

Rule 12 states that direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a player makes a tackle in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force.

“Careless” means that the player has shown a lack of attention or
consideration when making a challenge or that he acted without precaution.
• No further disciplinary sanction is needed if a foul is judged to be careless
“Reckless” means that the player has acted with complete disregard to the
danger to, or consequences for, his opponent.
• A player who plays in a reckless manner must be cautioned
“Using excessive force” means that the player has far exceeded the necessary
use of force and is in danger of injuring his opponent.
• A player who uses excessive force must be sent off

To me Brown is guilty of all or any of the above.

In addition, a tackle that endangers the safety of an opponent must be sanctioned as serious foul play. Brown's follow through clearly endangered Gaston's safety - anyone who has seen the photos of the challenge can see that and the end result speaks volumes.

In addition, the FA guidance states that a player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play. There is a lot of rubbish talked about whether a tackles is from behind or not and whether it was two footed. As you can see from the guidance, none of that matters. What counts is whether excessive force is used that endangers the safety of an opponent.

Whether a player has touched the ball first is only relevant in the context of serious foul play and even then only in helping the referee decide if the player lunged 'at' his opponent. It is not relevant in deciding whether the tackle was executed in a careless or reckless manner or whether excessive force was used.

A player who is guilty of serious foul play should be sent off and play is
restarted with a direct free kick from the position where the offence occurred
(see Law 13 – Position of free kick) or a penalty kick (if the offence occurred
inside the offender’s penalty area
Those winter evenings must fly by..
lol, between jobs...
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: Just looking at all the guff written about Wes Brown's tackle on Gaston. In my opinion it was a clear foul. The only question should have been whether it was a 'lunge' by Brown at Gaston in which case Brown should have been sent off. Here is why. See Rule 12 of the Laws of the game and the FA's guidance on how to interpret it. Rule 12 states that direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a player makes a tackle in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force. “Careless” means that the player has shown a lack of attention or consideration when making a challenge or that he acted without precaution. • No further disciplinary sanction is needed if a foul is judged to be careless “Reckless” means that the player has acted with complete disregard to the danger to, or consequences for, his opponent. • A player who plays in a reckless manner must be cautioned “Using excessive force” means that the player has far exceeded the necessary use of force and is in danger of injuring his opponent. • A player who uses excessive force must be sent off To me Brown is guilty of all or any of the above. In addition, a tackle that endangers the safety of an opponent must be sanctioned as serious foul play. Brown's follow through clearly endangered Gaston's safety - anyone who has seen the photos of the challenge can see that and the end result speaks volumes. In addition, the FA guidance states that a player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play. There is a lot of rubbish talked about whether a tackles is from behind or not and whether it was two footed. As you can see from the guidance, none of that matters. What counts is whether excessive force is used that endangers the safety of an opponent. Whether a player has touched the ball first is only relevant in the context of serious foul play and even then only in helping the referee decide if the player lunged 'at' his opponent. It is not relevant in deciding whether the tackle was executed in a careless or reckless manner or whether excessive force was used. A player who is guilty of serious foul play should be sent off and play is restarted with a direct free kick from the position where the offence occurred (see Law 13 – Position of free kick) or a penalty kick (if the offence occurred inside the offender’s penalty area[/p][/quote]Those winter evenings must fly by..[/p][/quote]lol, between jobs... Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
  • Score: 0

5:10pm Tue 21 Jan 14

redsnapper says...

ATTACK is he best form of defence.

Time for Ricki and Dani to start delivering big time as both have been disappointing so far. Since his England distraction Ricki has hardly impressed for Saints.

And with VW back soon we should be fine and should aim to move ahead of ManU and Newcastle.
ATTACK is he best form of defence. Time for Ricki and Dani to start delivering big time as both have been disappointing so far. Since his England distraction Ricki has hardly impressed for Saints. And with VW back soon we should be fine and should aim to move ahead of ManU and Newcastle. redsnapper
  • Score: 7

5:55pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

See KL's new statement on OS. Encouraging...
See KL's new statement on OS. Encouraging... Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
  • Score: 1

5:56pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

http://www.saintsfc.
co.uk/news/article/s
tatement-from-kathar
ina-liebherr-1308712
.aspx
http://www.saintsfc. co.uk/news/article/s tatement-from-kathar ina-liebherr-1308712 .aspx Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
  • Score: 0

6:18pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Tony Robertson says...

Dejan will be sorely missed - get well soon.

However, see Katharina's statement posted at 1745 today on SFC website. It's extemely encouraging. She seems to want to carry on what her Dad started. A ray of sunshine.

Tony Robertson, (currently in So'ton!)
Dejan will be sorely missed - get well soon. However, see Katharina's statement posted at 1745 today on SFC website. It's extemely encouraging. She seems to want to carry on what her Dad started. A ray of sunshine. Tony Robertson, (currently in So'ton!) Tony Robertson
  • Score: 2

6:30pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

Better get that Swiss Roll out Baby down to the Bare Bones in Defence !
Better get that Swiss Roll out Baby down to the Bare Bones in Defence ! Fatty x Ford Worker
  • Score: 3

6:40pm Tue 21 Jan 14

peregrine73 says...

SouthLondonSaint wrote:
I've got tickets for Yeovil, arsenal and fulham, obvisouly Lovren wouldn't play against Yeovil but the other two games he is essential (even fulham) am worried about every game he don't play in. Was quietly confident of getting a draw against Arsenal and smashing fulham like we did to Hull. Yoshida or hooiveld need to stand up and be counted. Impress me...

Bring the noise on Saturday

UP THE SAINTS!
Yoshida and Hooiveld have in general not been up to the challenge and I don't see any change here. Lovren is class and until he comes back we will struggle in defence,staying in the the top 10 will be a tough task over the next few weeks.
[quote][p][bold]SouthLondonSaint[/bold] wrote: I've got tickets for Yeovil, arsenal and fulham, obvisouly Lovren wouldn't play against Yeovil but the other two games he is essential (even fulham) am worried about every game he don't play in. Was quietly confident of getting a draw against Arsenal and smashing fulham like we did to Hull. Yoshida or hooiveld need to stand up and be counted. Impress me... Bring the noise on Saturday UP THE SAINTS![/p][/quote]Yoshida and Hooiveld have in general not been up to the challenge and I don't see any change here. Lovren is class and until he comes back we will struggle in defence,staying in the the top 10 will be a tough task over the next few weeks. peregrine73
  • Score: -4

7:12pm Tue 21 Jan 14

warrens 76 says...

peregrine73 wrote:
SouthLondonSaint wrote:
I've got tickets for Yeovil, arsenal and fulham, obvisouly Lovren wouldn't play against Yeovil but the other two games he is essential (even fulham) am worried about every game he don't play in. Was quietly confident of getting a draw against Arsenal and smashing fulham like we did to Hull. Yoshida or hooiveld need to stand up and be counted. Impress me...

Bring the noise on Saturday

UP THE SAINTS!
Yoshida and Hooiveld have in general not been up to the challenge and I don't see any change here. Lovren is class and until he comes back we will struggle in defence,staying in the the top 10 will be a tough task over the next few weeks.
Too true…it is though a dichotomy because if we fix the defence we are still back to missing more chances than anyone else in the top 10…sort the defence or score for fun a la citeh…either will do but do something.
[quote][p][bold]peregrine73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SouthLondonSaint[/bold] wrote: I've got tickets for Yeovil, arsenal and fulham, obvisouly Lovren wouldn't play against Yeovil but the other two games he is essential (even fulham) am worried about every game he don't play in. Was quietly confident of getting a draw against Arsenal and smashing fulham like we did to Hull. Yoshida or hooiveld need to stand up and be counted. Impress me... Bring the noise on Saturday UP THE SAINTS![/p][/quote]Yoshida and Hooiveld have in general not been up to the challenge and I don't see any change here. Lovren is class and until he comes back we will struggle in defence,staying in the the top 10 will be a tough task over the next few weeks.[/p][/quote]Too true…it is though a dichotomy because if we fix the defence we are still back to missing more chances than anyone else in the top 10…sort the defence or score for fun a la citeh…either will do but do something. warrens 76
  • Score: 1

7:25pm Tue 21 Jan 14

bullsbags says...

Just a thought,Morgan at centre back!
Just a thought,Morgan at centre back! bullsbags
  • Score: 0

7:34pm Tue 21 Jan 14

up saints says...

no need to panic buy i will take 9th place finish and the fa cup
no need to panic buy i will take 9th place finish and the fa cup up saints
  • Score: 1

8:24pm Tue 21 Jan 14

miltonnroad76 says...

thats a blow hopefully wont be out that long,,,,cos with hoover we can forget about clean sheets .i saw one post which said attack is best form of defence..i agree but with a liabilty like that doesnt matter how many we score we will concede more. And before all you jump on me and say im a poopey fan or negative ive been following saints over 40 years and hoover is one of the worst cbs ive ever seen,,slow. clumsy.caught out of position, deadly in his own penalty area and has not made the jump from championship to prem like most of the others..I start to doubt mopo if he doesnt move to replace him with ANYBODY surely there is cb in championship we can take a chance on coz hoover has failed time and time again.
thats a blow hopefully wont be out that long,,,,cos with hoover we can forget about clean sheets .i saw one post which said attack is best form of defence..i agree but with a liabilty like that doesnt matter how many we score we will concede more. And before all you jump on me and say im a poopey fan or negative ive been following saints over 40 years and hoover is one of the worst cbs ive ever seen,,slow. clumsy.caught out of position, deadly in his own penalty area and has not made the jump from championship to prem like most of the others..I start to doubt mopo if he doesnt move to replace him with ANYBODY surely there is cb in championship we can take a chance on coz hoover has failed time and time again. miltonnroad76
  • Score: 1

12:25pm Wed 22 Jan 14

SouthLondonSaint says...

warrens 76 wrote:
peregrine73 wrote:
SouthLondonSaint wrote:
I've got tickets for Yeovil, arsenal and fulham, obvisouly Lovren wouldn't play against Yeovil but the other two games he is essential (even fulham) am worried about every game he don't play in. Was quietly confident of getting a draw against Arsenal and smashing fulham like we did to Hull. Yoshida or hooiveld need to stand up and be counted. Impress me...

Bring the noise on Saturday

UP THE SAINTS!
Yoshida and Hooiveld have in general not been up to the challenge and I don't see any change here. Lovren is class and until he comes back we will struggle in defence,staying in the the top 10 will be a tough task over the next few weeks.
Too true…it is though a dichotomy because if we fix the defence we are still back to missing more chances than anyone else in the top 10…sort the defence or score for fun a la citeh…either will do but do something.
I prefer Yoshida to Hoover, I first saw him at the saints vs villa game (4-1) last season and to be honest was quite impressed. I felt he looked comfortable on the ball could tackle well and looked confident. Maybe it will all be ok... Maybe start fonte and yoshida in the Yeovil game to give them some experience playing together ahead of the Arsenal game. I'd like to see some of the U21 make an appearance even start one or two.

When's Wanyama coming back?

STID
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peregrine73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SouthLondonSaint[/bold] wrote: I've got tickets for Yeovil, arsenal and fulham, obvisouly Lovren wouldn't play against Yeovil but the other two games he is essential (even fulham) am worried about every game he don't play in. Was quietly confident of getting a draw against Arsenal and smashing fulham like we did to Hull. Yoshida or hooiveld need to stand up and be counted. Impress me... Bring the noise on Saturday UP THE SAINTS![/p][/quote]Yoshida and Hooiveld have in general not been up to the challenge and I don't see any change here. Lovren is class and until he comes back we will struggle in defence,staying in the the top 10 will be a tough task over the next few weeks.[/p][/quote]Too true…it is though a dichotomy because if we fix the defence we are still back to missing more chances than anyone else in the top 10…sort the defence or score for fun a la citeh…either will do but do something.[/p][/quote]I prefer Yoshida to Hoover, I first saw him at the saints vs villa game (4-1) last season and to be honest was quite impressed. I felt he looked comfortable on the ball could tackle well and looked confident. Maybe it will all be ok... Maybe start fonte and yoshida in the Yeovil game to give them some experience playing together ahead of the Arsenal game. I'd like to see some of the U21 make an appearance even start one or two. When's Wanyama coming back? STID SouthLondonSaint
  • Score: 0

4:50pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Blackknight says...

Lovren out is a big loss, he's been saints player of the season so far.
Lovren out is a big loss, he's been saints player of the season so far. Blackknight
  • Score: 0

7:24pm Wed 22 Jan 14

kaburrow says...

I'd prefer to see Aaron Martin play rather than Hieveld.
He did well for us in the games he played and looked solid and quick.
I'd prefer to see Aaron Martin play rather than Hieveld. He did well for us in the games he played and looked solid and quick. kaburrow
  • Score: 0

11:09pm Wed 22 Jan 14

fritzer says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
This year is now a "fun" year

Fun due to us being safe...
Fun looking down and not worried...
Fun that Europe is in our five year plan...
Fun we have an owner that thinks like her dad...
Fun we might have a little cup run...
Fun watching all other clubs jealousy of our set-up...
Fun watching your "rivals" struggling to stay in league 4...
Fun calling Poopey "rivals" as they're so far behind...
Fun watching an ex-Saint try to keep the "rivals" up...
Fun looking at our squad and being proud...
Fun with our brilliant manager at the helm...
Fun is watching Man U, Arsenal and Chelsea fans wanting all our players...

Yes, this season is a fun one. Without the injuries since start of December, I think we could have looked at fifth spot.
Looking forward to the "fun" arsenal game where we will give them a hellll of a beating!

Fun, fun, fuuuuuunnnnnn!!!
What bloody drugs are you on Nordman?,reckon you should share them, we need a CB before you dream of beating the Arsenal.
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: This year is now a "fun" year Fun due to us being safe... Fun looking down and not worried... Fun that Europe is in our five year plan... Fun we have an owner that thinks like her dad... Fun we might have a little cup run... Fun watching all other clubs jealousy of our set-up... Fun watching your "rivals" struggling to stay in league 4... Fun calling Poopey "rivals" as they're so far behind... Fun watching an ex-Saint try to keep the "rivals" up... Fun looking at our squad and being proud... Fun with our brilliant manager at the helm... Fun is watching Man U, Arsenal and Chelsea fans wanting all our players... Yes, this season is a fun one. Without the injuries since start of December, I think we could have looked at fifth spot. Looking forward to the "fun" arsenal game where we will give them a hellll of a beating! Fun, fun, fuuuuuunnnnnn!!![/p][/quote]What bloody drugs are you on Nordman?,reckon you should share them, we need a CB before you dream of beating the Arsenal. fritzer
  • Score: 0

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