Poch pledges no Saints exodus

Basingstoke Gazette: Mauricio Pochettino at yesterday’s press conference. Mauricio Pochettino at yesterday’s press conference.

Mauricio Pochettino has pledged his immediate future to Saints in the wake of Nicola Cortese’s departure – but has refused to give any guarantees over his long-term status.

The club’s manager also moved to calm fears of a reported player “exodus” this month, saying no one who he wants to keep will be allowed to leave during the transfer window.

Pochettino was speaking for the first time since Cortese’s shock exit on Wednesday night and just moments after meeting owner Katharina Liebherr at St Mary’s.

He revealed he had received the full support of Liebherr and was “100 per cent committed” to Saints, although he gave mixed messages about how long for.

“It is clear that there is a loyalty and a commitment to this club and to the staff, to the people that run this club, to the supporters of this club,” said the 41-year-old, whose contract runs until the end of next season.

“My contract is with Southampton, it’s with a company, and I intend see my contract with this company. It would not be the right moment to actually leave this club right now.”

At another point, he added: “What is clear is when I signed for Nicola I signed for two years. We signed together a number of players, and I am 100 per cent committed to those players, and 100 per cent committed to the project, to the two years of my contract.”

However, Pochettino – who admitted yesterday he contemplated quitting due to Cortese’s departure – later said he would review his status as manager at the end of the season.

“I am fully 100 per cent decided on staying here at this club until the end of the season and taking this club as high as it can,” he said.

“First, it’s only normal that we finish the season, then we’ll see next season what happens.

“It’s clear that at the end of the season we will assess the situation at the club and then we will decide whether I am up to staying here another season.”

Last summer, when Cortese’s future was under threat, Pochettino had aligned himself closely with the Italian, saying he would leave if he departed.

However, he justified his decision not to follow him out of the door this time, as circumstances had changed.

“It is clear that when I came in in the middle of last season Nicola wanted me to be here for those four months to ensure the club stayed in the Premier League, and from then on a new project started, so that’s a different situation to what I said before,” he said.

“It would make no sense for me to leave this club in the middle of the season – no one would understand it. I am sure Nicola would not understand that.”

Pochettino, who added Cortese agreed with his decision to stay, only spoke to Liebherr for about five minutes yesterday and confirmed they had not discussed issues such as the transfer market.

However, he laid down a marker that he does not expect anyone to be sold who he wishes to keep.

“I’m sure that the club will designate a person to receive any potential offers, to speak to any potential buyers, and to deal with all these potential offers.

“But I want to make something very clear; no one is for sale at Southampton, no one. My belief has not changed from one week ago. No player that I don’t want to leave will leave this club.”

Perhaps the biggest concern among supporters is the future of teenage left-back Luke Shaw, with reports suggesting he wants to leave and that clubs such as Chelsea, Manchester City and Liverpool are now preparing moves for him.

Pochettino put the ball in Liebherr’s court over that issue.

“That is not a question I can answer,” he said. “Luke Shaw has a contract and that is a question for the new chairman. I am not aware of bids for him.”

Rickie Lambert has also this week been linked with a move to West Ham, with suggestions that Cortese was involved in negotiations over a £7m deal in the hours leading up to his departure.

“I have no news on that,” said Pochettino.

Asked what Lambert wants to do, the Saints boss said: “I have not spoken with him yet, so I do not know.”

Pochettino said he had received no indication from any player that they wished to leave.

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6:17am Fri 17 Jan 14

Norwegian Saint says...

Right, now we can all calm down and give the Maccums one helllll of a beating!!!
Right, now we can all calm down and give the Maccums one helllll of a beating!!! Norwegian Saint

6:31am Fri 17 Jan 14

Prit says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
Right, now we can all calm down and give the Maccums one helllll of a beating!!!
Very true. Someone must suffer after all this heartache !!
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: Right, now we can all calm down and give the Maccums one helllll of a beating!!![/p][/quote]Very true. Someone must suffer after all this heartache !! Prit

6:53am Fri 17 Jan 14

derek james says...

can we have a bit of respect for miss liebherr after all she is a lady and just calling her "liebherr" is not respectful
can we have a bit of respect for miss liebherr after all she is a lady and just calling her "liebherr" is not respectful derek james

7:39am Fri 17 Jan 14

milton road says...

'I am 100% committed to the project to the two years of my contract that I have with Southampton FC.'
which is up in January.
Understandably in May both sides will review things, which would of happened anyway as his contract would be up for renewal.
The thing is whether the owners keep to the project and are prepared to invest as they have done and keep their players.
There is not a quote from Shaw anywhere that he wants to leave. Only that he wants to stay. He like others will no doubt wait and see how the owners carry on now.
People did not jump ship because NA went, why should they now?
I think reason will prevail and we will see what the owners do before people start running off.
It is very much in the owners court, they are business people, not football people. Their interest is in profit and lose margins.
'I am 100% committed to the project to the two years of my contract that I have with Southampton FC.' which is up in January. Understandably in May both sides will review things, which would of happened anyway as his contract would be up for renewal. The thing is whether the owners keep to the project and are prepared to invest as they have done and keep their players. There is not a quote from Shaw anywhere that he wants to leave. Only that he wants to stay. He like others will no doubt wait and see how the owners carry on now. People did not jump ship because NA went, why should they now? I think reason will prevail and we will see what the owners do before people start running off. It is very much in the owners court, they are business people, not football people. Their interest is in profit and lose margins. milton road

7:56am Fri 17 Jan 14

elvisimo says...

come on Echo, surely you can get a few more stories out of this...
come on Echo, surely you can get a few more stories out of this... elvisimo

8:01am Fri 17 Jan 14

Dave74 says...

What I personally find interesting is, that after such a big upheaval they only had 5 mins to talk. I would have thought an astute business woman would create time to discuss important matters.
This is not only prevalent to the transfer window, but the club, the players an the staff need to receive information about their futures. If we are only thinking about MoPo's position and the transfer window I would have thought at least one of her advisors would have provided the necessary details to address and give them adequate time to at least confirm a few important points. It is after all only a business for her so she would want her investments to flourish, whereas it was a project for her father and so much more to us the supporters.
3pts this weekend and then get things settled in the boardroom next week.
What I personally find interesting is, that after such a big upheaval they only had 5 mins to talk. I would have thought an astute business woman would create time to discuss important matters. This is not only prevalent to the transfer window, but the club, the players an the staff need to receive information about their futures. If we are only thinking about MoPo's position and the transfer window I would have thought at least one of her advisors would have provided the necessary details to address and give them adequate time to at least confirm a few important points. It is after all only a business for her so she would want her investments to flourish, whereas it was a project for her father and so much more to us the supporters. 3pts this weekend and then get things settled in the boardroom next week. Dave74

8:44am Fri 17 Jan 14

Blackknight says...

Relieved MoPo is staying at least to the end of the season and that no players are to be sold that he doesn't want to leave.

I guess all Saints fans are waiting for a statement from Katharina Liebherr about the longer term future of the club, will she stay and invest or sell.

Given that there has been an estimated £75m invested on players over the past five years then surely it is not unreasonable for Katharina to insist on having more of a say in the running of the club. If Saints are going to compete seriously for the riches of European qualification then further player investment is going to be required.

Hope who ever is appointed as the new Chief Executive has some backbone and buys into Nicola Cortese's long term vision for the Saints.

At least until the end of the season lets hope there is some stability. However my guess is that for most Saints fans the uncertain future of the club will be a niggle in the back of their minds.
Relieved MoPo is staying at least to the end of the season and that no players are to be sold that he doesn't want to leave. I guess all Saints fans are waiting for a statement from Katharina Liebherr about the longer term future of the club, will she stay and invest or sell. Given that there has been an estimated £75m invested on players over the past five years then surely it is not unreasonable for Katharina to insist on having more of a say in the running of the club. If Saints are going to compete seriously for the riches of European qualification then further player investment is going to be required. Hope who ever is appointed as the new Chief Executive has some backbone and buys into Nicola Cortese's long term vision for the Saints. At least until the end of the season lets hope there is some stability. However my guess is that for most Saints fans the uncertain future of the club will be a niggle in the back of their minds. Blackknight

8:53am Fri 17 Jan 14

Jesus_02 says...

Asked what Lambert wants to do, the Saints boss said: “I have not spoken with him yet, so I do not know

"Yet" sounds like a bid has been accepted then?
Asked what Lambert wants to do, the Saints boss said: “I have not spoken with him yet, so I do not know "Yet" sounds like a bid has been accepted then? Jesus_02

9:04am Fri 17 Jan 14

Folkestone Saint says...

If she turns us back into a selling club with no ambition I will stop attending/supporting and just be a follower, for the first time since 1974 when I became a supporter I felt the club had something special in place and I would be rewarded for all my years as a supporter, now I feel very low, just as if I had forgotten to buy a lottery ticket and my numbers came up.
If she turns us back into a selling club with no ambition I will stop attending/supporting and just be a follower, for the first time since 1974 when I became a supporter I felt the club had something special in place and I would be rewarded for all my years as a supporter, now I feel very low, just as if I had forgotten to buy a lottery ticket and my numbers came up. Folkestone Saint

9:05am Fri 17 Jan 14

saint gee says...

I think we should all welcome her the southampton way,let her see for herself the passion of the fans,starting tomorrow then at our next home game,with our amazing away supporters drowning out sunderlands home crowd, then the welcome she gets at our next home game,who knows she might actually see why her father(god bless him) loved our club so much.so lets make her realise its not just a business,to us supporters its a way of life,the souampton way
saints till i die,coyr.
I think we should all welcome her the southampton way,let her see for herself the passion of the fans,starting tomorrow then at our next home game,with our amazing away supporters drowning out sunderlands home crowd, then the welcome she gets at our next home game,who knows she might actually see why her father(god bless him) loved our club so much.so lets make her realise its not just a business,to us supporters its a way of life,the souampton way saints till i die,coyr. saint gee

9:10am Fri 17 Jan 14

St Retford says...

Dave74 wrote:
What I personally find interesting is, that after such a big upheaval they only had 5 mins to talk. I would have thought an astute business woman would create time to discuss important matters.
This is not only prevalent to the transfer window, but the club, the players an the staff need to receive information about their futures. If we are only thinking about MoPo's position and the transfer window I would have thought at least one of her advisors would have provided the necessary details to address and give them adequate time to at least confirm a few important points. It is after all only a business for her so she would want her investments to flourish, whereas it was a project for her father and so much more to us the supporters.
3pts this weekend and then get things settled in the boardroom next week.
I would imagine the two of them talked for far more than five minutes. But by telling the press conference their chat was only very brief it meant journalists were far less likely to press Poch on the club's future plans.

I think an awful lot is going to happen to the club between now and the end of the season and Poch will have been kept in the loop and he clearly approves of the plans. His option at the end of the season will probably only kick in if they don't come off to his satisfaction.
[quote][p][bold]Dave74[/bold] wrote: What I personally find interesting is, that after such a big upheaval they only had 5 mins to talk. I would have thought an astute business woman would create time to discuss important matters. This is not only prevalent to the transfer window, but the club, the players an the staff need to receive information about their futures. If we are only thinking about MoPo's position and the transfer window I would have thought at least one of her advisors would have provided the necessary details to address and give them adequate time to at least confirm a few important points. It is after all only a business for her so she would want her investments to flourish, whereas it was a project for her father and so much more to us the supporters. 3pts this weekend and then get things settled in the boardroom next week.[/p][/quote]I would imagine the two of them talked for far more than five minutes. But by telling the press conference their chat was only very brief it meant journalists were far less likely to press Poch on the club's future plans. I think an awful lot is going to happen to the club between now and the end of the season and Poch will have been kept in the loop and he clearly approves of the plans. His option at the end of the season will probably only kick in if they don't come off to his satisfaction. St Retford

9:24am Fri 17 Jan 14

Mush On The Beach says...

Folkestone Saint wrote:
If she turns us back into a selling club with no ambition I will stop attending/supporting and just be a follower, for the first time since 1974 when I became a supporter I felt the club had something special in place and I would be rewarded for all my years as a supporter, now I feel very low, just as if I had forgotten to buy a lottery ticket and my numbers came up.
Chin up Folkestone, they are only ever temporary custodians of our football club, we however are permanent fixtures by choice and birthright.
[quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: If she turns us back into a selling club with no ambition I will stop attending/supporting and just be a follower, for the first time since 1974 when I became a supporter I felt the club had something special in place and I would be rewarded for all my years as a supporter, now I feel very low, just as if I had forgotten to buy a lottery ticket and my numbers came up.[/p][/quote]Chin up Folkestone, they are only ever temporary custodians of our football club, we however are permanent fixtures by choice and birthright. Mush On The Beach

9:27am Fri 17 Jan 14

Blackwaterblue says...

I Nico was in charge (after he left) he'd fire Poc and replace him!
I Nico was in charge (after he left) he'd fire Poc and replace him! Blackwaterblue

9:28am Fri 17 Jan 14

Malcombe says...

With Nicola Cortese gone lets hope it's let's get on with it and move on.

Throughout these last few days all the negative news has been enough to do everyone's head in, I'm personally delighted MoPo didn't leave and I honestly didn't think he would when only halfway through a season and also thank goodness he's said he didn't want any of his Squad leaving the Club and he again emphasised this yesterday, if I had a preference who I didn't want to leave it was the Manager.

I hope that after the last ball is kicked this season for Southampton FC the final position is in the top 8 and we have the FA Cup on the shelf and MoPo will sign for another 2 years, this merry-go-round of change of Managers every season depresses the Supporters, MoPo hasn't proved as much as he visualised yet and I'm sure he desperately wants to,looking at Photos on the Saints Site there wasn't any sad faces amongst the Players or Coaching Staff yesterday probably because secretly they and the Manager and his Staff knew in advance that Cortese was to leave before any of the Supporters and the Media were informed.

MoPo seems a very modest man and always praises those around him rather than any compliments for himself but he has made a dramatic and dynamic change to the Club and I'm sure the turnover for the season must of risen, the franchise of Merchandise must of increased more than any season before, I've never seen so many Saints Shirts being worn than in the past and it's all down to Cortese's vision and MoPos Management to bring an exciting and prosperous change to the Club and may it continue with MoPo for many years not just 1 more or possible 2 we all want him to stay forever COYR
With Nicola Cortese gone lets hope it's let's get on with it and move on. Throughout these last few days all the negative news has been enough to do everyone's head in, I'm personally delighted MoPo didn't leave and I honestly didn't think he would when only halfway through a season and also thank goodness he's said he didn't want any of his Squad leaving the Club and he again emphasised this yesterday, if I had a preference who I didn't want to leave it was the Manager. I hope that after the last ball is kicked this season for Southampton FC the final position is in the top 8 and we have the FA Cup on the shelf and MoPo will sign for another 2 years, this merry-go-round of change of Managers every season depresses the Supporters, MoPo hasn't proved as much as he visualised yet and I'm sure he desperately wants to,looking at Photos on the Saints Site there wasn't any sad faces amongst the Players or Coaching Staff yesterday probably because secretly they and the Manager and his Staff knew in advance that Cortese was to leave before any of the Supporters and the Media were informed. MoPo seems a very modest man and always praises those around him rather than any compliments for himself but he has made a dramatic and dynamic change to the Club and I'm sure the turnover for the season must of risen, the franchise of Merchandise must of increased more than any season before, I've never seen so many Saints Shirts being worn than in the past and it's all down to Cortese's vision and MoPos Management to bring an exciting and prosperous change to the Club and may it continue with MoPo for many years not just 1 more or possible 2 we all want him to stay forever COYR Malcombe

9:39am Fri 17 Jan 14

Marchwood Malcom says...

Poch did the honorable thing sticking around, which is probably why his meeting with Kathy only lasted 5 minutes. I hate to say it but I can see him going in the summer or maybe before. I know a few on here will complain about negative comments, blah blah, but it looks a probable scenario. I reckon they said let's just keep things together till the end of the season and then look at things again. Kathy probably wants to sell the club and Poch can see the writing on the wall. Let's just hope that we can attract some wealthy buyer and keep hold of the real talent in the squad.
Poch did the honorable thing sticking around, which is probably why his meeting with Kathy only lasted 5 minutes. I hate to say it but I can see him going in the summer or maybe before. I know a few on here will complain about negative comments, blah blah, but it looks a probable scenario. I reckon they said let's just keep things together till the end of the season and then look at things again. Kathy probably wants to sell the club and Poch can see the writing on the wall. Let's just hope that we can attract some wealthy buyer and keep hold of the real talent in the squad. Marchwood Malcom

9:41am Fri 17 Jan 14

Sadoldgitte says...

saint gee wrote:
I think we should all welcome her the southampton way,let her see for herself the passion of the fans,starting tomorrow then at our next home game,with our amazing away supporters drowning out sunderlands home crowd, then the welcome she gets at our next home game,who knows she might actually see why her father(god bless him) loved our club so much.so lets make her realise its not just a business,to us supporters its a way of life,the souampton way
saints till i die,coyr.
Please stop using that pathetic phrase"the Southampton Way." It is embarrassing and it was Corteses way. We used to be a family club not a brand. Hopefully we can go back to being a family club again. That doesnt exclude ambition, but it is all about people and tradition, not money.
[quote][p][bold]saint gee[/bold] wrote: I think we should all welcome her the southampton way,let her see for herself the passion of the fans,starting tomorrow then at our next home game,with our amazing away supporters drowning out sunderlands home crowd, then the welcome she gets at our next home game,who knows she might actually see why her father(god bless him) loved our club so much.so lets make her realise its not just a business,to us supporters its a way of life,the souampton way saints till i die,coyr.[/p][/quote]Please stop using that pathetic phrase"the Southampton Way." It is embarrassing and it was Corteses way. We used to be a family club not a brand. Hopefully we can go back to being a family club again. That doesnt exclude ambition, but it is all about people and tradition, not money. Sadoldgitte

9:46am Fri 17 Jan 14

WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER. says...

unless a oil magnate ,russian mafia , dodgy bankers take a interest ,not a snowballs chance in hell of taking saints into the top four ,the next few weeks of the transfer window will clarify the situation.
unless a oil magnate ,russian mafia , dodgy bankers take a interest ,not a snowballs chance in hell of taking saints into the top four ,the next few weeks of the transfer window will clarify the situation. WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER.

9:51am Fri 17 Jan 14

JohnItaly says...

The choice of CEO will give all us fans a guide as to the long term, or otherwise, plans of KL. His (or her) CV will be analysed to the nth degree and conclusions drawn as to whether-or-not the person is seen as a one who is brought in to oversee a sale or continue to develop the Club in line with ML/NC's vision and dreams.
The choice of CEO will give all us fans a guide as to the long term, or otherwise, plans of KL. His (or her) CV will be analysed to the nth degree and conclusions drawn as to whether-or-not the person is seen as a one who is brought in to oversee a sale or continue to develop the Club in line with ML/NC's vision and dreams. JohnItaly

9:55am Fri 17 Jan 14

JohnItaly says...

The choice of CEO will give all us fans a guide as to the long term, or otherwise, plans of KL. His (or her - let's not be sexist) CV will be analysed to the nth degree and conclusions drawn as to whether-or-not the person is seen as a one who is brought in to oversee a sale or continue to develop the Club in line with ML/NC's vision and dreams.
The choice of CEO will give all us fans a guide as to the long term, or otherwise, plans of KL. His (or her - let's not be sexist) CV will be analysed to the nth degree and conclusions drawn as to whether-or-not the person is seen as a one who is brought in to oversee a sale or continue to develop the Club in line with ML/NC's vision and dreams. JohnItaly

10:44am Fri 17 Jan 14

Confucious says...

Nicola was the one and only director of the club and it seems as if one of the big issues here is that he was demanding to stay the one and only director of the club.

For all his many undoubted and greatly valued strengths, an obsession with personal control and autocracy seemed to be his weakness. One consequence is no doubt a management vacuum at St Marys today. Nicola wasn't big on delegation and likely made a great number decisions at subordinate levels at which others would normally be allowed to operate. Bosses who dislike challenge and who may fear employing good people capable of challenging them, often run into problems sooner or later - and when they go their failure to have built a capable structure beneath them is revealed.

I have always been supportive of Nicola, not least because he brought success and made me very happy. But I'm not sure the way he left does him much credit. Someone who really cares about a business and the many people whose lives it affects, tries beforehand to prepare it for the departure. It seems he just walked out and left everyone, wrong footed and ill prepared - including MoPo - to pick up the pieces. Really great bosses always build a business that can prosper without them.

Katherina and MoPo had to make statements yesterday on the hoof - and both were complimentary about Nicola. He has said nothing - as usual.

Okay - so there may be more to come out. But as it stands, if I was Katherina, I would have at least wanted a non-exec position on the club board, especially with a controlling personality like Nicola in day-to-day charge. That much is reasonable - and denying that opportunity is unreasonable.

Fortunately there's a match tomorrow to take our minds off the situation for a bit. But of course concerns about the future and the players will continue. Meantime we need to support Katherina. Marcus left the club with her - so let's trust them both to do the right thing and make judgements later.

Meantime, I have to say, very reluctantly, that I feel Nicola has left us a safe which has a combination. But he put the combination in the safe before he left.
Nicola was the one and only director of the club and it seems as if one of the big issues here is that he was demanding to stay the one and only director of the club. For all his many undoubted and greatly valued strengths, an obsession with personal control and autocracy seemed to be his weakness. One consequence is no doubt a management vacuum at St Marys today. Nicola wasn't big on delegation and likely made a great number decisions at subordinate levels at which others would normally be allowed to operate. Bosses who dislike challenge and who may fear employing good people capable of challenging them, often run into problems sooner or later - and when they go their failure to have built a capable structure beneath them is revealed. I have always been supportive of Nicola, not least because he brought success and made me very happy. But I'm not sure the way he left does him much credit. Someone who really cares about a business and the many people whose lives it affects, tries beforehand to prepare it for the departure. It seems he just walked out and left everyone, wrong footed and ill prepared - including MoPo - to pick up the pieces. Really great bosses always build a business that can prosper without them. Katherina and MoPo had to make statements yesterday on the hoof - and both were complimentary about Nicola. He has said nothing - as usual. Okay - so there may be more to come out. But as it stands, if I was Katherina, I would have at least wanted a non-exec position on the club board, especially with a controlling personality like Nicola in day-to-day charge. That much is reasonable - and denying that opportunity is unreasonable. Fortunately there's a match tomorrow to take our minds off the situation for a bit. But of course concerns about the future and the players will continue. Meantime we need to support Katherina. Marcus left the club with her - so let's trust them both to do the right thing and make judgements later. Meantime, I have to say, very reluctantly, that I feel Nicola has left us a safe which has a combination. But he put the combination in the safe before he left. Confucious

10:51am Fri 17 Jan 14

Folkestone Saint says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
Folkestone Saint wrote:
If she turns us back into a selling club with no ambition I will stop attending/supporting and just be a follower, for the first time since 1974 when I became a supporter I felt the club had something special in place and I would be rewarded for all my years as a supporter, now I feel very low, just as if I had forgotten to buy a lottery ticket and my numbers came up.
Chin up Folkestone, they are only ever temporary custodians of our football club, we however are permanent fixtures by choice and birthright.
Cheers mate, but actually my school mates when I was a kid back in Basingstoke threatened to beat me up if I didn't support Saints, so in a way I did have a choice but there was five of them, and I as you say became a permanent fixture.
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: If she turns us back into a selling club with no ambition I will stop attending/supporting and just be a follower, for the first time since 1974 when I became a supporter I felt the club had something special in place and I would be rewarded for all my years as a supporter, now I feel very low, just as if I had forgotten to buy a lottery ticket and my numbers came up.[/p][/quote]Chin up Folkestone, they are only ever temporary custodians of our football club, we however are permanent fixtures by choice and birthright.[/p][/quote]Cheers mate, but actually my school mates when I was a kid back in Basingstoke threatened to beat me up if I didn't support Saints, so in a way I did have a choice but there was five of them, and I as you say became a permanent fixture. Folkestone Saint

11:04am Fri 17 Jan 14

therealredarmy says...

@Sadoldgitte

You right we used to be a family club and look what happen the club almost die because of old fashion value. Football has change so much its a business now clubs need to sale their name overseas for TV revenue and sales of merchandising, because they depends of that money to survive and make profit. Obviously the Liebherr Family inject money into the club and they want their share of the pie we should all understand that. If you want a family feel football team then you should look at conference football there's no money players still have to work maybe you enjoy more amigo !
@Sadoldgitte You right we used to be a family club and look what happen the club almost die because of old fashion value. Football has change so much its a business now clubs need to sale their name overseas for TV revenue and sales of merchandising, because they depends of that money to survive and make profit. Obviously the Liebherr Family inject money into the club and they want their share of the pie we should all understand that. If you want a family feel football team then you should look at conference football there's no money players still have to work maybe you enjoy more amigo ! therealredarmy

11:23am Fri 17 Jan 14

devonsaint2 says...

Confucious wrote:
Nicola was the one and only director of the club and it seems as if one of the big issues here is that he was demanding to stay the one and only director of the club.

For all his many undoubted and greatly valued strengths, an obsession with personal control and autocracy seemed to be his weakness. One consequence is no doubt a management vacuum at St Marys today. Nicola wasn't big on delegation and likely made a great number decisions at subordinate levels at which others would normally be allowed to operate. Bosses who dislike challenge and who may fear employing good people capable of challenging them, often run into problems sooner or later - and when they go their failure to have built a capable structure beneath them is revealed.

I have always been supportive of Nicola, not least because he brought success and made me very happy. But I'm not sure the way he left does him much credit. Someone who really cares about a business and the many people whose lives it affects, tries beforehand to prepare it for the departure. It seems he just walked out and left everyone, wrong footed and ill prepared - including MoPo - to pick up the pieces. Really great bosses always build a business that can prosper without them.

Katherina and MoPo had to make statements yesterday on the hoof - and both were complimentary about Nicola. He has said nothing - as usual.

Okay - so there may be more to come out. But as it stands, if I was Katherina, I would have at least wanted a non-exec position on the club board, especially with a controlling personality like Nicola in day-to-day charge. That much is reasonable - and denying that opportunity is unreasonable.

Fortunately there's a match tomorrow to take our minds off the situation for a bit. But of course concerns about the future and the players will continue. Meantime we need to support Katherina. Marcus left the club with her - so let's trust them both to do the right thing and make judgements later.

Meantime, I have to say, very reluctantly, that I feel Nicola has left us a safe which has a combination. But he put the combination in the safe before he left.
Well done Confucious...I agree with all ( except the safe bit) ..
I much prefer when you talk straight and not in riddles...not complaining though.

I spoke to that idiot on Talksport last night and typical 3rd rate journalism he was trying to make such an issue out of NC leaving. He called it a tragedy ! Shame he doesn't understand the word.

Ok NC was great for Saints but so had Nigel Adkins & Ricky ( AND STILL IS AND HOPEFULLY FOR MUCH LONGER ) and now MOPO.
Saints will survive, we may even get better. I know a lot of NC's great work stifled others. His drive and vision with a little more understanding from the ne CEO would be perfect.
If Sunseeker get more involved ( lots of rumours ) then Dalian Wanda group, who own them would be an even bigger investor than.Liebherr.

However to keep the spirit of Marcus going, I hope Katherina falls in love with the club. Just slightly worried that Southampton FC only represents 2% of her company's turnover and therefore may not matter too much to her.
Sunderland is only the 2nd away game this season a I am missing but I will be rooting for the lads and I hope we sing about MOPO all game.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Nicola was the one and only director of the club and it seems as if one of the big issues here is that he was demanding to stay the one and only director of the club. For all his many undoubted and greatly valued strengths, an obsession with personal control and autocracy seemed to be his weakness. One consequence is no doubt a management vacuum at St Marys today. Nicola wasn't big on delegation and likely made a great number decisions at subordinate levels at which others would normally be allowed to operate. Bosses who dislike challenge and who may fear employing good people capable of challenging them, often run into problems sooner or later - and when they go their failure to have built a capable structure beneath them is revealed. I have always been supportive of Nicola, not least because he brought success and made me very happy. But I'm not sure the way he left does him much credit. Someone who really cares about a business and the many people whose lives it affects, tries beforehand to prepare it for the departure. It seems he just walked out and left everyone, wrong footed and ill prepared - including MoPo - to pick up the pieces. Really great bosses always build a business that can prosper without them. Katherina and MoPo had to make statements yesterday on the hoof - and both were complimentary about Nicola. He has said nothing - as usual. Okay - so there may be more to come out. But as it stands, if I was Katherina, I would have at least wanted a non-exec position on the club board, especially with a controlling personality like Nicola in day-to-day charge. That much is reasonable - and denying that opportunity is unreasonable. Fortunately there's a match tomorrow to take our minds off the situation for a bit. But of course concerns about the future and the players will continue. Meantime we need to support Katherina. Marcus left the club with her - so let's trust them both to do the right thing and make judgements later. Meantime, I have to say, very reluctantly, that I feel Nicola has left us a safe which has a combination. But he put the combination in the safe before he left.[/p][/quote]Well done Confucious...I agree with all ( except the safe bit) .. I much prefer when you talk straight and not in riddles...not complaining though. I spoke to that idiot on Talksport last night and typical 3rd rate journalism he was trying to make such an issue out of NC leaving. He called it a tragedy ! Shame he doesn't understand the word. Ok NC was great for Saints but so had Nigel Adkins & Ricky ( AND STILL IS AND HOPEFULLY FOR MUCH LONGER ) and now MOPO. Saints will survive, we may even get better. I know a lot of NC's great work stifled others. His drive and vision with a little more understanding from the ne CEO would be perfect. If Sunseeker get more involved ( lots of rumours ) then Dalian Wanda group, who own them would be an even bigger investor than.Liebherr. However to keep the spirit of Marcus going, I hope Katherina falls in love with the club. Just slightly worried that Southampton FC only represents 2% of her company's turnover and therefore may not matter too much to her. Sunderland is only the 2nd away game this season a I am missing but I will be rooting for the lads and I hope we sing about MOPO all game. devonsaint2

11:53am Fri 17 Jan 14

right back in the bar says...

devonsaint2 wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Nicola was the one and only director of the club and it seems as if one of the big issues here is that he was demanding to stay the one and only director of the club.

For all his many undoubted and greatly valued strengths, an obsession with personal control and autocracy seemed to be his weakness. One consequence is no doubt a management vacuum at St Marys today. Nicola wasn't big on delegation and likely made a great number decisions at subordinate levels at which others would normally be allowed to operate. Bosses who dislike challenge and who may fear employing good people capable of challenging them, often run into problems sooner or later - and when they go their failure to have built a capable structure beneath them is revealed.

I have always been supportive of Nicola, not least because he brought success and made me very happy. But I'm not sure the way he left does him much credit. Someone who really cares about a business and the many people whose lives it affects, tries beforehand to prepare it for the departure. It seems he just walked out and left everyone, wrong footed and ill prepared - including MoPo - to pick up the pieces. Really great bosses always build a business that can prosper without them.

Katherina and MoPo had to make statements yesterday on the hoof - and both were complimentary about Nicola. He has said nothing - as usual.

Okay - so there may be more to come out. But as it stands, if I was Katherina, I would have at least wanted a non-exec position on the club board, especially with a controlling personality like Nicola in day-to-day charge. That much is reasonable - and denying that opportunity is unreasonable.

Fortunately there's a match tomorrow to take our minds off the situation for a bit. But of course concerns about the future and the players will continue. Meantime we need to support Katherina. Marcus left the club with her - so let's trust them both to do the right thing and make judgements later.

Meantime, I have to say, very reluctantly, that I feel Nicola has left us a safe which has a combination. But he put the combination in the safe before he left.
Well done Confucious...I agree with all ( except the safe bit) ..
I much prefer when you talk straight and not in riddles...not complaining though.

I spoke to that idiot on Talksport last night and typical 3rd rate journalism he was trying to make such an issue out of NC leaving. He called it a tragedy ! Shame he doesn't understand the word.

Ok NC was great for Saints but so had Nigel Adkins & Ricky ( AND STILL IS AND HOPEFULLY FOR MUCH LONGER ) and now MOPO.
Saints will survive, we may even get better. I know a lot of NC's great work stifled others. His drive and vision with a little more understanding from the ne CEO would be perfect.
If Sunseeker get more involved ( lots of rumours ) then Dalian Wanda group, who own them would be an even bigger investor than.Liebherr.

However to keep the spirit of Marcus going, I hope Katherina falls in love with the club. Just slightly worried that Southampton FC only represents 2% of her company's turnover and therefore may not matter too much to her.
Sunderland is only the 2nd away game this season a I am missing but I will be rooting for the lads and I hope we sing about MOPO all game.
Yes interesting and balanced perspective. But no doubt in mind she wants the club prepared for sale, and it was that this brought about Cortese's departure. I don't think it will be long before new owners are found and the club is sold. It will then be a question of whether new owners allow MP to carry on. I don't buy the idea new owners will just come in and milk the club; that would be mad. And given MP's record they would be mad to let him go. Assuming he goes of his own accord does him little credit - he's forged a strong bond with the players. But this is the key - its about MP staying on and if that happens nothing much changes.
[quote][p][bold]devonsaint2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Nicola was the one and only director of the club and it seems as if one of the big issues here is that he was demanding to stay the one and only director of the club. For all his many undoubted and greatly valued strengths, an obsession with personal control and autocracy seemed to be his weakness. One consequence is no doubt a management vacuum at St Marys today. Nicola wasn't big on delegation and likely made a great number decisions at subordinate levels at which others would normally be allowed to operate. Bosses who dislike challenge and who may fear employing good people capable of challenging them, often run into problems sooner or later - and when they go their failure to have built a capable structure beneath them is revealed. I have always been supportive of Nicola, not least because he brought success and made me very happy. But I'm not sure the way he left does him much credit. Someone who really cares about a business and the many people whose lives it affects, tries beforehand to prepare it for the departure. It seems he just walked out and left everyone, wrong footed and ill prepared - including MoPo - to pick up the pieces. Really great bosses always build a business that can prosper without them. Katherina and MoPo had to make statements yesterday on the hoof - and both were complimentary about Nicola. He has said nothing - as usual. Okay - so there may be more to come out. But as it stands, if I was Katherina, I would have at least wanted a non-exec position on the club board, especially with a controlling personality like Nicola in day-to-day charge. That much is reasonable - and denying that opportunity is unreasonable. Fortunately there's a match tomorrow to take our minds off the situation for a bit. But of course concerns about the future and the players will continue. Meantime we need to support Katherina. Marcus left the club with her - so let's trust them both to do the right thing and make judgements later. Meantime, I have to say, very reluctantly, that I feel Nicola has left us a safe which has a combination. But he put the combination in the safe before he left.[/p][/quote]Well done Confucious...I agree with all ( except the safe bit) .. I much prefer when you talk straight and not in riddles...not complaining though. I spoke to that idiot on Talksport last night and typical 3rd rate journalism he was trying to make such an issue out of NC leaving. He called it a tragedy ! Shame he doesn't understand the word. Ok NC was great for Saints but so had Nigel Adkins & Ricky ( AND STILL IS AND HOPEFULLY FOR MUCH LONGER ) and now MOPO. Saints will survive, we may even get better. I know a lot of NC's great work stifled others. His drive and vision with a little more understanding from the ne CEO would be perfect. If Sunseeker get more involved ( lots of rumours ) then Dalian Wanda group, who own them would be an even bigger investor than.Liebherr. However to keep the spirit of Marcus going, I hope Katherina falls in love with the club. Just slightly worried that Southampton FC only represents 2% of her company's turnover and therefore may not matter too much to her. Sunderland is only the 2nd away game this season a I am missing but I will be rooting for the lads and I hope we sing about MOPO all game.[/p][/quote]Yes interesting and balanced perspective. But no doubt in mind she wants the club prepared for sale, and it was that this brought about Cortese's departure. I don't think it will be long before new owners are found and the club is sold. It will then be a question of whether new owners allow MP to carry on. I don't buy the idea new owners will just come in and milk the club; that would be mad. And given MP's record they would be mad to let him go. Assuming he goes of his own accord does him little credit - he's forged a strong bond with the players. But this is the key - its about MP staying on and if that happens nothing much changes. right back in the bar

12:26pm Fri 17 Jan 14

ghk230473 says...

Confucious wrote:
Nicola was the one and only director of the club and it seems as if one of the big issues here is that he was demanding to stay the one and only director of the club.

For all his many undoubted and greatly valued strengths, an obsession with personal control and autocracy seemed to be his weakness. One consequence is no doubt a management vacuum at St Marys today. Nicola wasn't big on delegation and likely made a great number decisions at subordinate levels at which others would normally be allowed to operate. Bosses who dislike challenge and who may fear employing good people capable of challenging them, often run into problems sooner or later - and when they go their failure to have built a capable structure beneath them is revealed.

I have always been supportive of Nicola, not least because he brought success and made me very happy. But I'm not sure the way he left does him much credit. Someone who really cares about a business and the many people whose lives it affects, tries beforehand to prepare it for the departure. It seems he just walked out and left everyone, wrong footed and ill prepared - including MoPo - to pick up the pieces. Really great bosses always build a business that can prosper without them.

Katherina and MoPo had to make statements yesterday on the hoof - and both were complimentary about Nicola. He has said nothing - as usual.

Okay - so there may be more to come out. But as it stands, if I was Katherina, I would have at least wanted a non-exec position on the club board, especially with a controlling personality like Nicola in day-to-day charge. That much is reasonable - and denying that opportunity is unreasonable.

Fortunately there's a match tomorrow to take our minds off the situation for a bit. But of course concerns about the future and the players will continue. Meantime we need to support Katherina. Marcus left the club with her - so let's trust them both to do the right thing and make judgements later.

Meantime, I have to say, very reluctantly, that I feel Nicola has left us a safe which has a combination. But he put the combination in the safe before he left.
Never know if you're serious or not!
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Nicola was the one and only director of the club and it seems as if one of the big issues here is that he was demanding to stay the one and only director of the club. For all his many undoubted and greatly valued strengths, an obsession with personal control and autocracy seemed to be his weakness. One consequence is no doubt a management vacuum at St Marys today. Nicola wasn't big on delegation and likely made a great number decisions at subordinate levels at which others would normally be allowed to operate. Bosses who dislike challenge and who may fear employing good people capable of challenging them, often run into problems sooner or later - and when they go their failure to have built a capable structure beneath them is revealed. I have always been supportive of Nicola, not least because he brought success and made me very happy. But I'm not sure the way he left does him much credit. Someone who really cares about a business and the many people whose lives it affects, tries beforehand to prepare it for the departure. It seems he just walked out and left everyone, wrong footed and ill prepared - including MoPo - to pick up the pieces. Really great bosses always build a business that can prosper without them. Katherina and MoPo had to make statements yesterday on the hoof - and both were complimentary about Nicola. He has said nothing - as usual. Okay - so there may be more to come out. But as it stands, if I was Katherina, I would have at least wanted a non-exec position on the club board, especially with a controlling personality like Nicola in day-to-day charge. That much is reasonable - and denying that opportunity is unreasonable. Fortunately there's a match tomorrow to take our minds off the situation for a bit. But of course concerns about the future and the players will continue. Meantime we need to support Katherina. Marcus left the club with her - so let's trust them both to do the right thing and make judgements later. Meantime, I have to say, very reluctantly, that I feel Nicola has left us a safe which has a combination. But he put the combination in the safe before he left.[/p][/quote]Never know if you're serious or not! ghk230473

12:27pm Fri 17 Jan 14

soton1980 says...

Interesting that the Echo and some other papers are reporting that it was Cortese who accepting a £7m bid for Lambert. If true, it might explain why Billy Sharp is apparently back training with club.

One wonders whether he was instructed to accept the bid (and perhaps disagreed with it, hence his decision to walk out). Alternatively, perhaps he did so of his own choice and intention and the Liebherr's disagreed with the sale considering his importance to the club.
Interesting that the Echo and some other papers are reporting that it was Cortese who accepting a £7m bid for Lambert. If true, it might explain why Billy Sharp is apparently back training with club. One wonders whether he was instructed to accept the bid (and perhaps disagreed with it, hence his decision to walk out). Alternatively, perhaps he did so of his own choice and intention and the Liebherr's disagreed with the sale considering his importance to the club. soton1980

12:52pm Fri 17 Jan 14

saint gee says...

Sadoldgitte wrote:
saint gee wrote: I think we should all welcome her the southampton way,let her see for herself the passion of the fans,starting tomorrow then at our next home game,with our amazing away supporters drowning out sunderlands home crowd, then the welcome she gets at our next home game,who knows she might actually see why her father(god bless him) loved our club so much.so lets make her realise its not just a business,to us supporters its a way of life,the souampton way saints till i die,coyr.
Please stop using that pathetic phrase"the Southampton Way." It is embarrassing and it was Corteses way. We used to be a family club not a brand. Hopefully we can go back to being a family club again. That doesnt exclude ambition, but it is all about people and tradition, not money.
It may well of been his way,but how can u knock it,do you remember where we were when marcus bought our club,and never have we been so ambitious, before we were a relagation candidates every season,so no sorry im quite happy using the term southampton way,or nic's way,embarrasing,path
etic are u kidding,lets go back to the lowe or wilde way,think before u comment.cause im sure most supporters would have nic back in a flash.
[quote][p][bold]Sadoldgitte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint gee[/bold] wrote: I think we should all welcome her the southampton way,let her see for herself the passion of the fans,starting tomorrow then at our next home game,with our amazing away supporters drowning out sunderlands home crowd, then the welcome she gets at our next home game,who knows she might actually see why her father(god bless him) loved our club so much.so lets make her realise its not just a business,to us supporters its a way of life,the souampton way saints till i die,coyr.[/p][/quote]Please stop using that pathetic phrase"the Southampton Way." It is embarrassing and it was Corteses way. We used to be a family club not a brand. Hopefully we can go back to being a family club again. That doesnt exclude ambition, but it is all about people and tradition, not money.[/p][/quote]It may well of been his way,but how can u knock it,do you remember where we were when marcus bought our club,and never have we been so ambitious, before we were a relagation candidates every season,so no sorry im quite happy using the term southampton way,or nic's way,embarrasing,path etic are u kidding,lets go back to the lowe or wilde way,think before u comment.cause im sure most supporters would have nic back in a flash. saint gee

1:13pm Fri 17 Jan 14

jong says...

I'm still confused as to why Nicola had to leave right in the middle of the January transfer window. I get that he was working his notice period and that had apparently come to an end but surely he could have left it until the window had closed to make it public?
I'm still confused as to why Nicola had to leave right in the middle of the January transfer window. I get that he was working his notice period and that had apparently come to an end but surely he could have left it until the window had closed to make it public? jong

1:20pm Fri 17 Jan 14

circa 66 saint says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
Right, now we can all calm down and give the Maccums one helllll of a beating!!!
So back to business it is then.

I see that the government have appointed a minister for Portsmouth, unless he can score 20 goals before the end of the season I still think they will get relegated.

C.O.Y.R.
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: Right, now we can all calm down and give the Maccums one helllll of a beating!!![/p][/quote]So back to business it is then. I see that the government have appointed a minister for Portsmouth, unless he can score 20 goals before the end of the season I still think they will get relegated. C.O.Y.R. circa 66 saint

5:29pm Fri 17 Jan 14

RalphM says...

Still gutted with all that is happened. I felt we were definitely onto something big, really big. Cortese had an amazing eye for detail, so that every part of the machine was working to perfection. With him gone that's not going to happen now unless we are sold to someone with a big vision too. Of course Katherina should be welcomed at St Marys, but of course her plan is to sell us to the best bidder! At least we have our new youth training ground as a legacy.
Still gutted with all that is happened. I felt we were definitely onto something big, really big. Cortese had an amazing eye for detail, so that every part of the machine was working to perfection. With him gone that's not going to happen now unless we are sold to someone with a big vision too. Of course Katherina should be welcomed at St Marys, but of course her plan is to sell us to the best bidder! At least we have our new youth training ground as a legacy. RalphM

9:57pm Fri 17 Jan 14

F Fan says...

derek james wrote:
can we have a bit of respect for miss liebherr after all she is a lady and just calling her "liebherr" is not respectful
Nonsense - the disrespectful is the sexist insults.
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: can we have a bit of respect for miss liebherr after all she is a lady and just calling her "liebherr" is not respectful[/p][/quote]Nonsense - the disrespectful is the sexist insults. F Fan

10:09pm Fri 17 Jan 14

F Fan says...

Confucious wrote:
Nicola was the one and only director of the club and it seems as if one of the big issues here is that he was demanding to stay the one and only director of the club.

For all his many undoubted and greatly valued strengths, an obsession with personal control and autocracy seemed to be his weakness. One consequence is no doubt a management vacuum at St Marys today. Nicola wasn't big on delegation and likely made a great number decisions at subordinate levels at which others would normally be allowed to operate. Bosses who dislike challenge and who may fear employing good people capable of challenging them, often run into problems sooner or later - and when they go their failure to have built a capable structure beneath them is revealed.

I have always been supportive of Nicola, not least because he brought success and made me very happy. But I'm not sure the way he left does him much credit. Someone who really cares about a business and the many people whose lives it affects, tries beforehand to prepare it for the departure. It seems he just walked out and left everyone, wrong footed and ill prepared - including MoPo - to pick up the pieces. Really great bosses always build a business that can prosper without them.

Katherina and MoPo had to make statements yesterday on the hoof - and both were complimentary about Nicola. He has said nothing - as usual.

Okay - so there may be more to come out. But as it stands, if I was Katherina, I would have at least wanted a non-exec position on the club board, especially with a controlling personality like Nicola in day-to-day charge. That much is reasonable - and denying that opportunity is unreasonable.

Fortunately there's a match tomorrow to take our minds off the situation for a bit. But of course concerns about the future and the players will continue. Meantime we need to support Katherina. Marcus left the club with her - so let's trust them both to do the right thing and make judgements later.

Meantime, I have to say, very reluctantly, that I feel Nicola has left us a safe which has a combination. But he put the combination in the safe before he left.
Was with you on a sensible and perceptive observation until your last para. We don't know that - could just as easily be the sad end of his persistent opposition to an early sale.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Nicola was the one and only director of the club and it seems as if one of the big issues here is that he was demanding to stay the one and only director of the club. For all his many undoubted and greatly valued strengths, an obsession with personal control and autocracy seemed to be his weakness. One consequence is no doubt a management vacuum at St Marys today. Nicola wasn't big on delegation and likely made a great number decisions at subordinate levels at which others would normally be allowed to operate. Bosses who dislike challenge and who may fear employing good people capable of challenging them, often run into problems sooner or later - and when they go their failure to have built a capable structure beneath them is revealed. I have always been supportive of Nicola, not least because he brought success and made me very happy. But I'm not sure the way he left does him much credit. Someone who really cares about a business and the many people whose lives it affects, tries beforehand to prepare it for the departure. It seems he just walked out and left everyone, wrong footed and ill prepared - including MoPo - to pick up the pieces. Really great bosses always build a business that can prosper without them. Katherina and MoPo had to make statements yesterday on the hoof - and both were complimentary about Nicola. He has said nothing - as usual. Okay - so there may be more to come out. But as it stands, if I was Katherina, I would have at least wanted a non-exec position on the club board, especially with a controlling personality like Nicola in day-to-day charge. That much is reasonable - and denying that opportunity is unreasonable. Fortunately there's a match tomorrow to take our minds off the situation for a bit. But of course concerns about the future and the players will continue. Meantime we need to support Katherina. Marcus left the club with her - so let's trust them both to do the right thing and make judgements later. Meantime, I have to say, very reluctantly, that I feel Nicola has left us a safe which has a combination. But he put the combination in the safe before he left.[/p][/quote]Was with you on a sensible and perceptive observation until your last para. We don't know that - could just as easily be the sad end of his persistent opposition to an early sale. F Fan

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