Have Your Say: Pochettino's first year at Saints

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MAURICIO Pochettino celebrates a year in charge at Saints this weekend – but how do YOU think he’s done in his 12 months at St Mary’s?

The former Espanyol boss was a controversial appointment for the sacked Nigel Adkins, with Saints just three points above the Premier League relegation zone at the time.

But the Argentine masterminded the club’s top flight safety, and has now taken them into a top ten position.

Has Pochettino done better than you ever imagined?

Were you a critic of his arrival, but have since admitted Nicola Cortese made the right decision to sack the manager, Adkins, who had led the club to back to back promotions?

What do you particularly like about Pochettino and his tactics?

And what areas do you think he still needs to improve?

Can you see a very bright future with him at the helm?

Vote on our poll below, and leave your comments as well.

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12:14pm Mon 13 Jan 14

guest74 says...

Poch is doing a great job and long may it continue!! coyr
Poch is doing a great job and long may it continue!! coyr guest74
  • Score: 13

12:16pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Exceptional first year in charge. Now let's have some stability of manager - it's many years over due!
Exceptional first year in charge. Now let's have some stability of manager - it's many years over due! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 30

12:27pm Mon 13 Jan 14

willygetaway says...

He has taken things to another level, Proud to be a Saints Fan(long may he continue) in Cortese i trust COYR
He has taken things to another level, Proud to be a Saints Fan(long may he continue) in Cortese i trust COYR willygetaway
  • Score: 26

12:39pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Mush On The Beach says...

I was angry at the time when Adkins was given the shove, but that just goes to show the passion of a fan can be clouded with sentiment and not see the bigger picture.
Mauricio has taken us up a level and he has to be congratulated for that. The question in how he has done this year can also be answered by seeing him linked recently to the Spurs job. He has the respect of the wider premiership fraternity as well most of us.
I was angry at the time when Adkins was given the shove, but that just goes to show the passion of a fan can be clouded with sentiment and not see the bigger picture. Mauricio has taken us up a level and he has to be congratulated for that. The question in how he has done this year can also be answered by seeing him linked recently to the Spurs job. He has the respect of the wider premiership fraternity as well most of us. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 15

1:01pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

We have definitely moved up a notch or two and Poch and his staff deserve our full respect. However, so does Nicola for staying to finish the project he and Markus started and the Liebherr family for sticking with it. Let's not forget than none of this would have been possible without them.

With Poch I sometimes think we lack an effective 'Plan B', but that may be down to personnel rather than anything else. If we don't get anyone in this window then the summer should see two or three out and two or three in and then next season we will really see plans come to fruition. Great times.
We have definitely moved up a notch or two and Poch and his staff deserve our full respect. However, so does Nicola for staying to finish the project he and Markus started and the Liebherr family for sticking with it. Let's not forget than none of this would have been possible without them. With Poch I sometimes think we lack an effective 'Plan B', but that may be down to personnel rather than anything else. If we don't get anyone in this window then the summer should see two or three out and two or three in and then next season we will really see plans come to fruition. Great times. Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
  • Score: 18

1:03pm Mon 13 Jan 14

right back in the bar says...

It's been superb. I haven't enjoyed watching Saints and nor taken as much pride in performances and supporting the team since the days of Lawrie Mac. All players under his tutelage have improved and become better footballers- which augurs well for our academy players because ultimately success has to be selfsustaining.
It's been superb. I haven't enjoyed watching Saints and nor taken as much pride in performances and supporting the team since the days of Lawrie Mac. All players under his tutelage have improved and become better footballers- which augurs well for our academy players because ultimately success has to be selfsustaining. right back in the bar
  • Score: 14

1:22pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Tony in Liberia says...

I was gutted when Nigel was removed, but I have to say that was an emotional decision which, since then, I've revised.

I think Nicola's thinking was this; we should have gone up as champions from both League One & the Championship. Let's face it, with the team we had, I could have managed us out of League One. The fact that we were so much better than Brighton and Reading was proved conclusively the following seasons. In which case, yes Nigel "got us promoted twice", but in fact you could say he underperformed both times.

In the Prem, Nicola gave him a chance. And yes, he was starting to turn things around, but it was pretty obvious that Nigel wasn't going to get us much further than just above relegation. The previous two seasons weren't good enough for Nicola (and had probably told him so, which is probably why Nigel was so strangely upset in the interviews straight after promotion to the Prem), and staying just above water wasn't going to be, either.

Also, I can remember talking to my West Ham fan mate who constantly took the mickey out of Nigel's soundbite sayings - draw a blue line under that, take the positives, get back on the bus and drive the canoe onwards - and I defended him, but I have to say that now he is someone else's manager I can see what my mate was talking about, and he does come across as a bit of a tw*t. Having said that, I wish him a great career and although I hope he gets Reading promoted, that doesn't look so likely, and it may be that he has found his level.

I know that sounds harsh, harsher than I meant it to, but there are lots of people who were part of our push upwards who weren't capable of going any further. The art of good management is knowing when people have reached their natural limit, and not following the old "promotion to the point of incompetence" theory that held sway when I worked for British Gas back in the 1980s.

I'm very, very glad that we have a businessman in charge, and not an emotional tw*t like me; I would never have been able to make that decision - I would have stuck with Nigel through thick and thin, because the emotional side of being a fan would have not just clouded but completely obscured my judgement.

And what a great decision it was. Poch has taken us up a number of levels, and it's hard to predict how far we can go. Ok, the limits of a 32,000 ground will keep that in check - I don't want a team with players we can't afford who are financed by Leibher millions, like the Citys and Chelskis of this world - but with the academy, and players who seem to have bought into an ethos of the "Southampton Way", some cup wins and European Tours, with some brilliant football to watch en route, are very likely.

The days of a Cloughie taking a team from outside the top 6 and winning the league are almost certainly gone, but we can have some great years with this manager and this team. I can't wait!
I was gutted when Nigel was removed, but I have to say that was an emotional decision which, since then, I've revised. I think Nicola's thinking was this; we should have gone up as champions from both League One & the Championship. Let's face it, with the team we had, I could have managed us out of League One. The fact that we were so much better than Brighton and Reading was proved conclusively the following seasons. In which case, yes Nigel "got us promoted twice", but in fact you could say he underperformed both times. In the Prem, Nicola gave him a chance. And yes, he was starting to turn things around, but it was pretty obvious that Nigel wasn't going to get us much further than just above relegation. The previous two seasons weren't good enough for Nicola (and had probably told him so, which is probably why Nigel was so strangely upset in the interviews straight after promotion to the Prem), and staying just above water wasn't going to be, either. Also, I can remember talking to my West Ham fan mate who constantly took the mickey out of Nigel's soundbite sayings - draw a blue line under that, take the positives, get back on the bus and drive the canoe onwards - and I defended him, but I have to say that now he is someone else's manager I can see what my mate was talking about, and he does come across as a bit of a tw*t. Having said that, I wish him a great career and although I hope he gets Reading promoted, that doesn't look so likely, and it may be that he has found his level. I know that sounds harsh, harsher than I meant it to, but there are lots of people who were part of our push upwards who weren't capable of going any further. The art of good management is knowing when people have reached their natural limit, and not following the old "promotion to the point of incompetence" theory that held sway when I worked for British Gas back in the 1980s. I'm very, very glad that we have a businessman in charge, and not an emotional tw*t like me; I would never have been able to make that decision - I would have stuck with Nigel through thick and thin, because the emotional side of being a fan would have not just clouded but completely obscured my judgement. And what a great decision it was. Poch has taken us up a number of levels, and it's hard to predict how far we can go. Ok, the limits of a 32,000 ground will keep that in check - I don't want a team with players we can't afford who are financed by Leibher millions, like the Citys and Chelskis of this world - but with the academy, and players who seem to have bought into an ethos of the "Southampton Way", some cup wins and European Tours, with some brilliant football to watch en route, are very likely. The days of a Cloughie taking a team from outside the top 6 and winning the league are almost certainly gone, but we can have some great years with this manager and this team. I can't wait! Tony in Liberia
  • Score: 48

1:23pm Mon 13 Jan 14

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH says...

DONE WELL - We all enjoy when we WIN against the so called big sides

Like to improve on our performances against Chelsea. Look at the Table over the past 25 years and you will see they are beatable.

If we are in the TOP HALF of the Table for the foreseeable future and join the likes of Everton and Spurs - then that would be a massive achievement.

Having more Depth to our Squad would pay dividends to our Points and League Position year on year.

A RUN IN THE FA CUP annually would go down a treat with the FANS.

THUMBS UP FOR MAURICIO.
DONE WELL - We all enjoy when we WIN against the so called big sides Like to improve on our performances against Chelsea. Look at the Table over the past 25 years and you will see they are beatable. If we are in the TOP HALF of the Table for the foreseeable future and join the likes of Everton and Spurs - then that would be a massive achievement. Having more Depth to our Squad would pay dividends to our Points and League Position year on year. A RUN IN THE FA CUP annually would go down a treat with the FANS. THUMBS UP FOR MAURICIO. REDARMYRULETHESOUTH
  • Score: 10

1:26pm Mon 13 Jan 14

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Exceptional first year in charge. Now let's have some stability of manager - it's many years over due!
AGREED.

STABILITY AND A TOP TEN FINISH FOR THE NEXT DECADE WOULD BE A GOOD BUILDING BLOCK.

UTS
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Exceptional first year in charge. Now let's have some stability of manager - it's many years over due![/p][/quote]AGREED. STABILITY AND A TOP TEN FINISH FOR THE NEXT DECADE WOULD BE A GOOD BUILDING BLOCK. UTS REDARMYRULETHESOUTH
  • Score: 12

1:27pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Little Hitler says...

A dynamic and level headed manager who shares Cortese's vision of being smarter off the pitch in order to gain an advantage over clubs with a bigger depth of resource.

It's good to have a manager who doesn't act like an angry ape on the sidelines. Comparing him to Pardew might offer explanations as to why he (Pardew) was shown the door.

A few signings are questionable. Forren (if indeed he did sign him) is one and the temperament of Osvaldo is still a concern to me. Wanayama and Lovren have been excellent though.

I'm intrigued by the use of a 'Head of Media' to continue translating what he says. From what I can see, he speaks excellent English so this seems like a highly pragmatic way for him to avoid FA bans for saying things that are not acceptable. More clever thinking by the club.
A dynamic and level headed manager who shares Cortese's vision of being smarter off the pitch in order to gain an advantage over clubs with a bigger depth of resource. It's good to have a manager who doesn't act like an angry ape on the sidelines. Comparing him to Pardew might offer explanations as to why he (Pardew) was shown the door. A few signings are questionable. Forren (if indeed he did sign him) is one and the temperament of Osvaldo is still a concern to me. Wanayama and Lovren have been excellent though. I'm intrigued by the use of a 'Head of Media' to continue translating what he says. From what I can see, he speaks excellent English so this seems like a highly pragmatic way for him to avoid FA bans for saying things that are not acceptable. More clever thinking by the club. Little Hitler
  • Score: 9

1:30pm Mon 13 Jan 14

worried of n e hampshire says...

likewise I was not happy when Nigel got the Spanish archer (el bow) but what a job Mo-Po has done, as for plan B, inspired sub with Gaston coming on Saturday, changed the game.
likewise I was not happy when Nigel got the Spanish archer (el bow) but what a job Mo-Po has done, as for plan B, inspired sub with Gaston coming on Saturday, changed the game. worried of n e hampshire
  • Score: 12

1:32pm Mon 13 Jan 14

lindfieldsaint says...

Like many fans I was of the opinion that Nigel Adkins was unfairly treated. However, looking at his far from spectacular record at Reading, I have to admit that it was a good decision for our club. Cortese appointed NA to get us out of League 1 and consolidate in the Championship. I think it took him (and all of us) by surprise that we went straight up into the Prem at the first attempt.
In my opinion the chairman thought of Adkins as a lower league manager and always had a plan to replace him as and when we got to the higher echelons.
Pochettino has proved to be a very good appointment but he will be aware that if the results do take a dip 'the Don' will be looking at replacements.
Like many fans I was of the opinion that Nigel Adkins was unfairly treated. However, looking at his far from spectacular record at Reading, I have to admit that it was a good decision for our club. Cortese appointed NA to get us out of League 1 and consolidate in the Championship. I think it took him (and all of us) by surprise that we went straight up into the Prem at the first attempt. In my opinion the chairman thought of Adkins as a lower league manager and always had a plan to replace him as and when we got to the higher echelons. Pochettino has proved to be a very good appointment but he will be aware that if the results do take a dip 'the Don' will be looking at replacements. lindfieldsaint
  • Score: 9

1:32pm Mon 13 Jan 14

SaintJD says...

Exceptional is the only word for it.

We go into the new year looking up the table in England's top league - something that, in the past 25 years, we can only say we've been able to do once before while Gordon Strachan was in charge.

However, Strachan's brand of football that year was light years away from what MP has delivered.

Add that to the chance he's given our young players and the fact he kept us up last season despite being under intense scrutiny and despite not knowing the language, is utterly remarkable.

And I have to say to the 12% of people who, at time of writing, are rating his performance as just 'good' or 'average' that you clearly have extraordinarily high (potentially unrealistic) expectations.
Exceptional is the only word for it. We go into the new year looking up the table in England's top league - something that, in the past 25 years, we can only say we've been able to do once before while Gordon Strachan was in charge. However, Strachan's brand of football that year was light years away from what MP has delivered. Add that to the chance he's given our young players and the fact he kept us up last season despite being under intense scrutiny and despite not knowing the language, is utterly remarkable. And I have to say to the 12% of people who, at time of writing, are rating his performance as just 'good' or 'average' that you clearly have extraordinarily high (potentially unrealistic) expectations. SaintJD
  • Score: 15

1:33pm Mon 13 Jan 14

brightday says...

Tony in Libera

Spot on could not agree more
Tony in Libera Spot on could not agree more brightday
  • Score: 6

1:39pm Mon 13 Jan 14

St Retford says...

Best Saints manager I've known in my lifetime bar none. The potential of this side, with him at the helm, is sky high.

Fans need to be realistic about time scales, but I've no doubt he'll take us the Champions League.
Best Saints manager I've known in my lifetime bar none. The potential of this side, with him at the helm, is sky high. Fans need to be realistic about time scales, but I've no doubt he'll take us the Champions League. St Retford
  • Score: 21

1:39pm Mon 13 Jan 14

worried of n e hampshire says...

one thing that bugs me is with all the excitement why are we not selling out every home game?
one thing that bugs me is with all the excitement why are we not selling out every home game? worried of n e hampshire
  • Score: 14

1:41pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Confucious says...

When I heard our double promotion hero Nigel was sacked and to be replaced by a bloke from the Spanish League of whom I'd never even heard, I thought it was likely to be an awful mistake.

Clearly, with due respect to Nigel, the opposite was the case. MoPo has not only produced excellent results but also a style of play that is exciting and widely admired. I have no doubt too that our three players who have been capped by England since MoPo's arrival have similar thoughts.

And I have to say that the man who picked MoPo - and then took severe flak from all and sundry (including the media) for doing so - deserves tremendous credit. Say what you like about Nicola Cortese, but that man has created a lot of happiness in these parts.
When I heard our double promotion hero Nigel was sacked and to be replaced by a bloke from the Spanish League of whom I'd never even heard, I thought it was likely to be an awful mistake. Clearly, with due respect to Nigel, the opposite was the case. MoPo has not only produced excellent results but also a style of play that is exciting and widely admired. I have no doubt too that our three players who have been capped by England since MoPo's arrival have similar thoughts. And I have to say that the man who picked MoPo - and then took severe flak from all and sundry (including the media) for doing so - deserves tremendous credit. Say what you like about Nicola Cortese, but that man has created a lot of happiness in these parts. Confucious
  • Score: 48

1:43pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Clever Dick says...

lindfieldsaint wrote:
Like many fans I was of the opinion that Nigel Adkins was unfairly treated. However, looking at his far from spectacular record at Reading, I have to admit that it was a good decision for our club. Cortese appointed NA to get us out of League 1 and consolidate in the Championship. I think it took him (and all of us) by surprise that we went straight up into the Prem at the first attempt.
In my opinion the chairman thought of Adkins as a lower league manager and always had a plan to replace him as and when we got to the higher echelons.
Pochettino has proved to be a very good appointment but he will be aware that if the results do take a dip 'the Don' will be looking at replacements.
I don't really think it's too fair to compare the Reading side with our Championship side. If he had SRL and Adam there now they would be in the mix. He's done well wherever he's been and I hope he does at Reading too. He's a top bloke. As for MoPo could we expect anything more in his first complete season. Great football, great entertainment and let's not forget that he has had to uproot and move to a new country as well.
[quote][p][bold]lindfieldsaint[/bold] wrote: Like many fans I was of the opinion that Nigel Adkins was unfairly treated. However, looking at his far from spectacular record at Reading, I have to admit that it was a good decision for our club. Cortese appointed NA to get us out of League 1 and consolidate in the Championship. I think it took him (and all of us) by surprise that we went straight up into the Prem at the first attempt. In my opinion the chairman thought of Adkins as a lower league manager and always had a plan to replace him as and when we got to the higher echelons. Pochettino has proved to be a very good appointment but he will be aware that if the results do take a dip 'the Don' will be looking at replacements.[/p][/quote]I don't really think it's too fair to compare the Reading side with our Championship side. If he had SRL and Adam there now they would be in the mix. He's done well wherever he's been and I hope he does at Reading too. He's a top bloke. As for MoPo could we expect anything more in his first complete season. Great football, great entertainment and let's not forget that he has had to uproot and move to a new country as well. Clever Dick
  • Score: 9

1:46pm Mon 13 Jan 14

JohnItaly says...

I wholeheartedly agree with all the positive comments re the way the Club has moved forward under the guidance of MoPo and, of course, NC. I am very relaxed at our current position and it will be a very comfortable, and even more relaxing, end of the season once we hit 40 points which could be (or should be) by mid February. That will give the Club the opportunity to start planning for next season well before season end and give us supporters something to look forward to as very interesting summer unfolds before us with some very surprising and positive transfer activity.
I wholeheartedly agree with all the positive comments re the way the Club has moved forward under the guidance of MoPo and, of course, NC. I am very relaxed at our current position and it will be a very comfortable, and even more relaxing, end of the season once we hit 40 points which could be (or should be) by mid February. That will give the Club the opportunity to start planning for next season well before season end and give us supporters something to look forward to as very interesting summer unfolds before us with some very surprising and positive transfer activity. JohnItaly
  • Score: 8

2:06pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
likewise I was not happy when Nigel got the Spanish archer (el bow) but what a job Mo-Po has done, as for plan B, inspired sub with Gaston coming on Saturday, changed the game.
That's true indeed. I just wish Gaston would deliver more often. That's what i meant about personnel
[quote][p][bold]worried of n e hampshire[/bold] wrote: likewise I was not happy when Nigel got the Spanish archer (el bow) but what a job Mo-Po has done, as for plan B, inspired sub with Gaston coming on Saturday, changed the game.[/p][/quote]That's true indeed. I just wish Gaston would deliver more often. That's what i meant about personnel Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
  • Score: 4

2:10pm Mon 13 Jan 14

marz194 says...

hes done a very good job to bring us to the next level, long may it continue. To improve to a higher level: improve the squad rotation players, as when we do have injuries, like we have just been through, the team isn't as good. Most top teams have strength in depth and that should be our next objective! COYR!!! WE MUST ALWAYS LOOK TO IMPROVE!!! NEVER STAND STILL!!! AFTER ALL THAT TACTIC IS TAKING ITS TOLL ON DAVID MOYES.
hes done a very good job to bring us to the next level, long may it continue. To improve to a higher level: improve the squad rotation players, as when we do have injuries, like we have just been through, the team isn't as good. Most top teams have strength in depth and that should be our next objective! COYR!!! WE MUST ALWAYS LOOK TO IMPROVE!!! NEVER STAND STILL!!! AFTER ALL THAT TACTIC IS TAKING ITS TOLL ON DAVID MOYES. marz194
  • Score: 2

2:18pm Mon 13 Jan 14

ghk230473 says...

Mopo has without doubt taken us on a level however I have been miffed at some of his decisions. Fox IMO has been given too many chances, after baggies away game last season I would have never picked him again. Cork and Ramirez could have been given more play time this season.
Mopo has without doubt taken us on a level however I have been miffed at some of his decisions. Fox IMO has been given too many chances, after baggies away game last season I would have never picked him again. Cork and Ramirez could have been given more play time this season. ghk230473
  • Score: 8

2:21pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Sally Hamilton Original says...

There was not one time I doubted NC for saving NA and getting in mo po. He has proved to be a great acquisition wih Real Madrid looking in his direction for the future. He is the best young manager around by a long distance and has finally made our playing style look fast, flowing and what's more, we are getting results!
There was not one time I doubted NC for saving NA and getting in mo po. He has proved to be a great acquisition wih Real Madrid looking in his direction for the future. He is the best young manager around by a long distance and has finally made our playing style look fast, flowing and what's more, we are getting results! Sally Hamilton Original
  • Score: 5

2:21pm Mon 13 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
one thing that bugs me is with all the excitement why are we not selling out every home game?
Cost I expect, people need to eat rather than go to football matches.
[quote][p][bold]worried of n e hampshire[/bold] wrote: one thing that bugs me is with all the excitement why are we not selling out every home game?[/p][/quote]Cost I expect, people need to eat rather than go to football matches. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 13

2:23pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Chriops says...

Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right.

For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well.

Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected.

For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up.

Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results.
Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality.

Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit.

Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club.

If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.
Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right. For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well. Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected. For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up. Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results. Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality. Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit. Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club. If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out. Chriops
  • Score: 12

2:33pm Mon 13 Jan 14

SaintJD says...

St Retford wrote:
Best Saints manager I've known in my lifetime bar none. The potential of this side, with him at the helm, is sky high.

Fans need to be realistic about time scales, but I've no doubt he'll take us the Champions League.
I think keeping MP here is the key to everything to be honest - while he's here and while we are playing the brand of football we're playing I can't see why our young players would want to leave.

A Spurs fan friend of mine suggested to me that the vultures were circling for Adam this window, but frankly, for the first time in decades I can't really see our players wanting to leave even if a supposed big club came in for them. And who could blame them? Something exciting is happening here.

I just hope Adam gets on the plane to Brazil this summer, because as long as our kids feel they aren't being unfairly overlooked at international level I think they'll stay on board.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Best Saints manager I've known in my lifetime bar none. The potential of this side, with him at the helm, is sky high. Fans need to be realistic about time scales, but I've no doubt he'll take us the Champions League.[/p][/quote]I think keeping MP here is the key to everything to be honest - while he's here and while we are playing the brand of football we're playing I can't see why our young players would want to leave. A Spurs fan friend of mine suggested to me that the vultures were circling for Adam this window, but frankly, for the first time in decades I can't really see our players wanting to leave even if a supposed big club came in for them. And who could blame them? Something exciting is happening here. I just hope Adam gets on the plane to Brazil this summer, because as long as our kids feel they aren't being unfairly overlooked at international level I think they'll stay on board. SaintJD
  • Score: 7

2:34pm Mon 13 Jan 14

miltonarcher says...

SaintJD wrote:
Exceptional is the only word for it.

We go into the new year looking up the table in England's top league - something that, in the past 25 years, we can only say we've been able to do once before while Gordon Strachan was in charge.

However, Strachan's brand of football that year was light years away from what MP has delivered.

Add that to the chance he's given our young players and the fact he kept us up last season despite being under intense scrutiny and despite not knowing the language, is utterly remarkable.

And I have to say to the 12% of people who, at time of writing, are rating his performance as just 'good' or 'average' that you clearly have extraordinarily high (potentially unrealistic) expectations.
When Hoddle left us for Spurs we were 7th
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: Exceptional is the only word for it. We go into the new year looking up the table in England's top league - something that, in the past 25 years, we can only say we've been able to do once before while Gordon Strachan was in charge. However, Strachan's brand of football that year was light years away from what MP has delivered. Add that to the chance he's given our young players and the fact he kept us up last season despite being under intense scrutiny and despite not knowing the language, is utterly remarkable. And I have to say to the 12% of people who, at time of writing, are rating his performance as just 'good' or 'average' that you clearly have extraordinarily high (potentially unrealistic) expectations.[/p][/quote]When Hoddle left us for Spurs we were 7th miltonarcher
  • Score: 6

2:41pm Mon 13 Jan 14

warrens 76 says...

Second guessing makes experts of all of us..BbB and myself were somewhat critical of NA, loved the man but had definately reached his potetntial at the time with us and Saints are a better more efficient and less 'panicky' outfit since the MoPo came.

It has to be undersood that the finances of our almost permanent top four Champions league teams is creating the equivalent of the old union 'closed' shop..not a G16 member well you a'int coming in then.

…in all cases they have the revenue to buy two teams indeed they buy cover for two competitions the rest of us hope to stay fit for one…

Should The MoPo reach a top four position, I would say it is in the modern era tougher than us winning the old div one which we almost did twice or winning the FA cup when it was THE biggest game in the world.

Succeeding in the good times is one thing but beating adversity is the measure of the man…if we can reproduce our first ten games so it is not a flash in the pan the echo and everyone else will have their answer as form is temporary class is permanent.
Second guessing makes experts of all of us..BbB and myself were somewhat critical of NA, loved the man but had definately reached his potetntial at the time with us and Saints are a better more efficient and less 'panicky' outfit since the MoPo came. It has to be undersood that the finances of our almost permanent top four Champions league teams is creating the equivalent of the old union 'closed' shop..not a G16 member well you a'int coming in then. …in all cases they have the revenue to buy two teams indeed they buy cover for two competitions the rest of us hope to stay fit for one… Should The MoPo reach a top four position, I would say it is in the modern era tougher than us winning the old div one which we almost did twice or winning the FA cup when it was THE biggest game in the world. Succeeding in the good times is one thing but beating adversity is the measure of the man…if we can reproduce our first ten games so it is not a flash in the pan the echo and everyone else will have their answer as form is temporary class is permanent. warrens 76
  • Score: 5

2:46pm Mon 13 Jan 14

warrens 76 says...

Chriops wrote:
Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right.

For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well.

Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected.

For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up.

Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results.
Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality.

Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit.

Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club.

If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.
The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable….

..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!…

..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.
[quote][p][bold]Chriops[/bold] wrote: Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right. For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well. Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected. For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up. Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results. Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality. Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit. Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club. If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.[/p][/quote]The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable…. ..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!… ..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job. warrens 76
  • Score: 1

2:48pm Mon 13 Jan 14

SaintJD says...

miltonarcher wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
Exceptional is the only word for it.

We go into the new year looking up the table in England's top league - something that, in the past 25 years, we can only say we've been able to do once before while Gordon Strachan was in charge.

However, Strachan's brand of football that year was light years away from what MP has delivered.

Add that to the chance he's given our young players and the fact he kept us up last season despite being under intense scrutiny and despite not knowing the language, is utterly remarkable.

And I have to say to the 12% of people who, at time of writing, are rating his performance as just 'good' or 'average' that you clearly have extraordinarily high (potentially unrealistic) expectations.
When Hoddle left us for Spurs we were 7th
Sorry, my mistake, that's twice in around a quarter of a century.
[quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: Exceptional is the only word for it. We go into the new year looking up the table in England's top league - something that, in the past 25 years, we can only say we've been able to do once before while Gordon Strachan was in charge. However, Strachan's brand of football that year was light years away from what MP has delivered. Add that to the chance he's given our young players and the fact he kept us up last season despite being under intense scrutiny and despite not knowing the language, is utterly remarkable. And I have to say to the 12% of people who, at time of writing, are rating his performance as just 'good' or 'average' that you clearly have extraordinarily high (potentially unrealistic) expectations.[/p][/quote]When Hoddle left us for Spurs we were 7th[/p][/quote]Sorry, my mistake, that's twice in around a quarter of a century. SaintJD
  • Score: 2

2:54pm Mon 13 Jan 14

SaintJD says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Chriops wrote:
Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right.

For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well.

Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected.

For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up.

Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results.
Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality.

Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit.

Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club.

If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.
The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable….

..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!…

..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.
Good post. Agree with pretty much all of it.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chriops[/bold] wrote: Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right. For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well. Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected. For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up. Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results. Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality. Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit. Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club. If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.[/p][/quote]The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable…. ..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!… ..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.[/p][/quote]Good post. Agree with pretty much all of it. SaintJD
  • Score: 5

2:57pm Mon 13 Jan 14

worried of n e hampshire says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Chriops wrote:
Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right.

For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well.

Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected.

For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up.

Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results.
Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality.

Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit.

Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club.

If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.
The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable….

..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!…

..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.
and don't forget the Itchen North!!!

Fulham away is not sold out yet either.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chriops[/bold] wrote: Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right. For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well. Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected. For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up. Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results. Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality. Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit. Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club. If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.[/p][/quote]The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable…. ..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!… ..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.[/p][/quote]and don't forget the Itchen North!!! Fulham away is not sold out yet either. worried of n e hampshire
  • Score: 6

3:19pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

I'm not sure it's wise to judge him on 12 months. So, I'm going to reserve my opinion until 2023 (10 years), when we've stacked up half a dozen league titles, a handful of Champions Leagues and several FA and League Cups. :)
I'm not sure it's wise to judge him on 12 months. So, I'm going to reserve my opinion until 2023 (10 years), when we've stacked up half a dozen league titles, a handful of Champions Leagues and several FA and League Cups. :) Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 9

3:42pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Outside of the Box says...

I was disappointed when NA got the boot, but not any more. I think he's done a great job, I've seen a few managers since the Ted Bates days, Poch ranks up there with the best of them.

Gone of the days when I look a the fixture list and expect defeat, he has installed an optimism and expectation amongst fan (especially me) that Southampton FC can win near on every game, home or away, TBH I haven't felt like this since we finished 2nd to the Scousers in the early 80's.

Keeping our best young talent, bringing on more from the academy and buying the right players has proved quite easy, Lovren has been outstanding, Wanyama is an absolute beast, JRod has come leaps and bounds Adam plays out of his skin as does Morgan, these players have developed under Poch.

Osvaldo is class and prove his worth, as will Gaston. Quite honestly I loving it, he's done wonders and made this old Saints fan very happy.

Long may it continue
I was disappointed when NA got the boot, but not any more. I think he's done a great job, I've seen a few managers since the Ted Bates days, Poch ranks up there with the best of them. Gone of the days when I look a the fixture list and expect defeat, he has installed an optimism and expectation amongst fan (especially me) that Southampton FC can win near on every game, home or away, TBH I haven't felt like this since we finished 2nd to the Scousers in the early 80's. Keeping our best young talent, bringing on more from the academy and buying the right players has proved quite easy, Lovren has been outstanding, Wanyama is an absolute beast, JRod has come leaps and bounds Adam plays out of his skin as does Morgan, these players have developed under Poch. Osvaldo is class and prove his worth, as will Gaston. Quite honestly I loving it, he's done wonders and made this old Saints fan very happy. Long may it continue Outside of the Box
  • Score: 6

4:00pm Mon 13 Jan 14

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
worried of n e hampshire wrote:
one thing that bugs me is with all the excitement why are we not selling out every home game?
Cost I expect, people need to eat rather than go to football matches.
Liverpool (so called slums) sold out there fa cup game against lower opposition. I have said for a long time the clubs promotion team needs addressing. Sell the seats, sell burgers and drinks. Even if we make a small loss you're advertising the team, punters are talking and enthusiastic about southampton fc.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]worried of n e hampshire[/bold] wrote: one thing that bugs me is with all the excitement why are we not selling out every home game?[/p][/quote]Cost I expect, people need to eat rather than go to football matches.[/p][/quote]Liverpool (so called slums) sold out there fa cup game against lower opposition. I have said for a long time the clubs promotion team needs addressing. Sell the seats, sell burgers and drinks. Even if we make a small loss you're advertising the team, punters are talking and enthusiastic about southampton fc. ghk230473
  • Score: 3

4:10pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Buddy SFC says...

Pure quality ! He has taken Saints from a wanabe Prem side , into a solid and aspiring member of a very exclusive club !

His confidence in Southampton FC and the Don has been the key in taking solid layers and making them potential England stars, long may it continue !
Pure quality ! He has taken Saints from a wanabe Prem side , into a solid and aspiring member of a very exclusive club ! His confidence in Southampton FC and the Don has been the key in taking solid layers and making them potential England stars, long may it continue ! Buddy SFC
  • Score: 4

4:14pm Mon 13 Jan 14

bigfella777 says...

Brilliant, if they didn't have all the injuries I think they would be knocking on 40 points.
But who wants UEFA cup anyway, you could be in Romania on Thursday night and then in Liverpool on the Saturday.
Brilliant, if they didn't have all the injuries I think they would be knocking on 40 points. But who wants UEFA cup anyway, you could be in Romania on Thursday night and then in Liverpool on the Saturday. bigfella777
  • Score: 3

4:18pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Clever Dick says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Chriops wrote:
Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right.

For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well.

Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected.

For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up.

Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results.
Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality.

Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit.

Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club.

If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.
The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable….

..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!…

..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.
I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chriops[/bold] wrote: Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right. For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well. Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected. For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up. Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results. Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality. Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit. Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club. If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.[/p][/quote]The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable…. ..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!… ..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate. Clever Dick
  • Score: 5

4:27pm Mon 13 Jan 14

St Retford says...

Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Chriops wrote:
Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right.

For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well.

Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected.

For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up.

Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results.
Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality.

Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit.

Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club.

If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.
The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable….

..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!…

..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.
I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.
The thing with Southampton is that it's a hard, industrial city which in many ways has more in common with the traditional football heartlands of Lancashire and Yorkshire than it does with, say, Winchester or Bournemouth or whatever: there's a huge, huge appetite for football there. But the trouble with the South Coast in general is that it has a tradition of at least 50% of kids there supporting Man U or Liverpool or, god forbid, Chelsea. I think this will slowly change in Southampton as kids will have winners to back right on their own doorstep, but it might take a few years for this to filter through in terms of a demonstrable effect on ticket sales.

The long and short of it is that if the Don builds it, people will come. Eventually.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chriops[/bold] wrote: Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right. For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well. Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected. For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up. Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results. Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality. Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit. Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club. If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.[/p][/quote]The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable…. ..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!… ..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.[/p][/quote]The thing with Southampton is that it's a hard, industrial city which in many ways has more in common with the traditional football heartlands of Lancashire and Yorkshire than it does with, say, Winchester or Bournemouth or whatever: there's a huge, huge appetite for football there. But the trouble with the South Coast in general is that it has a tradition of at least 50% of kids there supporting Man U or Liverpool or, god forbid, Chelsea. I think this will slowly change in Southampton as kids will have winners to back right on their own doorstep, but it might take a few years for this to filter through in terms of a demonstrable effect on ticket sales. The long and short of it is that if the Don builds it, people will come. Eventually. St Retford
  • Score: 8

4:52pm Mon 13 Jan 14

lowemustgo says...

St Retford wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Chriops wrote:
Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right.

For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well.

Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected.

For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up.

Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results.
Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality.

Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit.

Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club.

If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.
The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable….

..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!…

..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.
I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.
The thing with Southampton is that it's a hard, industrial city which in many ways has more in common with the traditional football heartlands of Lancashire and Yorkshire than it does with, say, Winchester or Bournemouth or whatever: there's a huge, huge appetite for football there. But the trouble with the South Coast in general is that it has a tradition of at least 50% of kids there supporting Man U or Liverpool or, god forbid, Chelsea. I think this will slowly change in Southampton as kids will have winners to back right on their own doorstep, but it might take a few years for this to filter through in terms of a demonstrable effect on ticket sales.

The long and short of it is that if the Don builds it, people will come. Eventually.
Good manager, top marks for bringing in the academy players who have been excellent. Good buys in Lovren and Wanyama. Keep it up. Must do better in transfer market to address continuing weaknesses in reserve GK, another centre back, replacements for Hoover, Guly, Fox. Must learn to speak English!
The Club needs to wake up and better understand what fans want today in terms of news and comment? Media strategy is non existent with no real news or intelligent comment on website - mostly just drivel that a YTS could write. No decent analysis of games or comments on what went well. No 'opinions'.
War with Echo continues.
No fans forum or the radio station we used to have, hence posting on here? Even The Dark Lord had a 'Tell Rupert' email address.
Some Fans need a reason to come along and shell out £40 on a ticket, as many other attractions compete with football on Saturdays. Hence ground not full even though the team is playing its most attractive football for years.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chriops[/bold] wrote: Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right. For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well. Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected. For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up. Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results. Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality. Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit. Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club. If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.[/p][/quote]The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable…. ..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!… ..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.[/p][/quote]The thing with Southampton is that it's a hard, industrial city which in many ways has more in common with the traditional football heartlands of Lancashire and Yorkshire than it does with, say, Winchester or Bournemouth or whatever: there's a huge, huge appetite for football there. But the trouble with the South Coast in general is that it has a tradition of at least 50% of kids there supporting Man U or Liverpool or, god forbid, Chelsea. I think this will slowly change in Southampton as kids will have winners to back right on their own doorstep, but it might take a few years for this to filter through in terms of a demonstrable effect on ticket sales. The long and short of it is that if the Don builds it, people will come. Eventually.[/p][/quote]Good manager, top marks for bringing in the academy players who have been excellent. Good buys in Lovren and Wanyama. Keep it up. Must do better in transfer market to address continuing weaknesses in reserve GK, another centre back, replacements for Hoover, Guly, Fox. Must learn to speak English! The Club needs to wake up and better understand what fans want today in terms of news and comment? Media strategy is non existent with no real news or intelligent comment on website - mostly just drivel that a YTS could write. No decent analysis of games or comments on what went well. No 'opinions'. War with Echo continues. No fans forum or the radio station we used to have, hence posting on here? Even The Dark Lord had a 'Tell Rupert' email address. Some Fans need a reason to come along and shell out £40 on a ticket, as many other attractions compete with football on Saturdays. Hence ground not full even though the team is playing its most attractive football for years. lowemustgo
  • Score: 3

5:07pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Tevez888 says...

I would say he is the best Manager that I have seen here.
A big statement, however in the 20yrs that I have been a fan, nobody has had us play with such passion and pride.
Every game you see us capable of something even when we look like there is no chance.
Gordon Strachan is the only other Manager that has made us fitter and contending for the 90mins, but Pochettino has us up a level from that.

The best thing about MoPo is that he has made a few people eat their hats.
While there was justified anger at the way Adkins was treated, he has to agree that what we have done this last year, goes over and above what he could and could have produce(d).

We are moving onto the next level, and I can only hope that change up top does not happen, as this could possibly be the most stable the club have been for a long long time.

In Cortese and MoPo we trust.

Thanks for the last year Saints..... Happy 1st Anniversary Mo!
I would say he is the best Manager that I have seen here. A big statement, however in the 20yrs that I have been a fan, nobody has had us play with such passion and pride. Every game you see us capable of something even when we look like there is no chance. Gordon Strachan is the only other Manager that has made us fitter and contending for the 90mins, but Pochettino has us up a level from that. The best thing about MoPo is that he has made a few people eat their hats. While there was justified anger at the way Adkins was treated, he has to agree that what we have done this last year, goes over and above what he could and could have produce(d). We are moving onto the next level, and I can only hope that change up top does not happen, as this could possibly be the most stable the club have been for a long long time. In Cortese and MoPo we trust. Thanks for the last year Saints..... Happy 1st Anniversary Mo! Tevez888
  • Score: 4

5:09pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Velleity says...

I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed.

Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening.

I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.
I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed. Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening. I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen. Velleity
  • Score: 7

5:16pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Velleity says...

Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Chriops wrote:
Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right.

For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well.

Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected.

For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up.

Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results.
Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality.

Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit.

Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club.

If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.
The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable….

..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!…

..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.
I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.
Also, population of Tyne and Wear area (prob their catchment as within 8 miles or so of the city) from Wikipedia is 1.1M

Southampton's a bit isolated so our catchment is closer to 330,000 (it's my business's catchment area, hence knowing the number; includes Waterside, Romsey, C Ford, Hedge End down to Hythe).

We'll have trouble getting crowds up so far as Newcastle.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chriops[/bold] wrote: Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right. For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well. Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected. For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up. Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results. Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality. Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit. Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club. If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.[/p][/quote]The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable…. ..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!… ..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.[/p][/quote]Also, population of Tyne and Wear area (prob their catchment as within 8 miles or so of the city) from Wikipedia is 1.1M Southampton's a bit isolated so our catchment is closer to 330,000 (it's my business's catchment area, hence knowing the number; includes Waterside, Romsey, C Ford, Hedge End down to Hythe). We'll have trouble getting crowds up so far as Newcastle. Velleity
  • Score: 1

5:18pm Mon 13 Jan 14

NC Fan4Life says...

In my opinion MP has done better than Nigel Adkins in producing better attacking football and getting more out of the players. Tactically I sometimes question his team selections and substitutions but generally he is doing good. One thing he now needs is to do interviews in English as I understand that he does speak it quite well.
Also hope that he & NC sign a couple of quality players this Jan window to push us back up into the top six by end of the season.
In my opinion MP has done better than Nigel Adkins in producing better attacking football and getting more out of the players. Tactically I sometimes question his team selections and substitutions but generally he is doing good. One thing he now needs is to do interviews in English as I understand that he does speak it quite well. Also hope that he & NC sign a couple of quality players this Jan window to push us back up into the top six by end of the season. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 3

5:28pm Mon 13 Jan 14

warrens 76 says...

Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Chriops wrote:
Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right.

For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well.

Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected.

For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up.

Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results.
Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality.

Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit.

Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club.

If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.
The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable….

..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!…

..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.
I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.
Excuses….they earn less too

.. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside)

...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times.

Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game..

Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chriops[/bold] wrote: Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right. For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well. Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected. For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up. Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results. Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality. Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit. Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club. If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.[/p][/quote]The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable…. ..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!… ..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.[/p][/quote]Excuses….they earn less too .. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside) ...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times. Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game.. Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace... warrens 76
  • Score: 2

5:32pm Mon 13 Jan 14

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

A great year for ALL ! M.P. N.C. & The squad , long may it continue and the success build , Everything looks positive C O Y R
A great year for ALL ! M.P. N.C. & The squad , long may it continue and the success build , Everything looks positive C O Y R SPIKEISLANDTRADER
  • Score: 2

5:58pm Mon 13 Jan 14

warrens 76 says...

Velleity wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Chriops wrote:
Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right.

For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well.

Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected.

For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up.

Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results.
Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality.

Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit.

Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club.

If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.
The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable….

..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!…

..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.
I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.
Also, population of Tyne and Wear area (prob their catchment as within 8 miles or so of the city) from Wikipedia is 1.1M

Southampton's a bit isolated so our catchment is closer to 330,000 (it's my business's catchment area, hence knowing the number; includes Waterside, Romsey, C Ford, Hedge End down to Hythe).

We'll have trouble getting crowds up so far as Newcastle.
Look at Norwich..i remember when year after year our crowds at 23-27.000 dwarfed their's at 17.000 yet they get a full house evry game come rain or shine, good or bad , xmas or sales..2500 behind our average and half our catchment,,,

We the real fans need a bit more solidarity from our half fans..
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chriops[/bold] wrote: Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right. For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well. Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected. For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up. Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results. Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality. Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit. Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club. If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.[/p][/quote]The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable…. ..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!… ..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.[/p][/quote]Also, population of Tyne and Wear area (prob their catchment as within 8 miles or so of the city) from Wikipedia is 1.1M Southampton's a bit isolated so our catchment is closer to 330,000 (it's my business's catchment area, hence knowing the number; includes Waterside, Romsey, C Ford, Hedge End down to Hythe). We'll have trouble getting crowds up so far as Newcastle.[/p][/quote]Look at Norwich..i remember when year after year our crowds at 23-27.000 dwarfed their's at 17.000 yet they get a full house evry game come rain or shine, good or bad , xmas or sales..2500 behind our average and half our catchment,,, We the real fans need a bit more solidarity from our half fans.. warrens 76
  • Score: 3

6:01pm Mon 13 Jan 14

willygetaway says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Chriops wrote:
Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right.

For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well.

Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected.

For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up.

Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results.
Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality.

Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit.

Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club.

If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.
The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable….

..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!…

..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.
I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.
Excuses….they earn less too

.. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside)

...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times.

Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game..

Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...
Welllllll you say that
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chriops[/bold] wrote: Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right. For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well. Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected. For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up. Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results. Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality. Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit. Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club. If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.[/p][/quote]The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable…. ..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!… ..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.[/p][/quote]Excuses….they earn less too .. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside) ...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times. Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game.. Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...[/p][/quote]Welllllll you say that willygetaway
  • Score: 3

6:09pm Mon 13 Jan 14

worried of n e hampshire says...

manure fans drive from Guilford to manchster and back for a home game,
big catchment area!!!
manure fans drive from Guilford to manchster and back for a home game, big catchment area!!! worried of n e hampshire
  • Score: 4

6:20pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Which ever one of you is 'The Amazing Pompey Memory Man' take a bow!
Which ever one of you is 'The Amazing Pompey Memory Man' take a bow! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 6

6:39pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Baddesley Bill says...

Harping back to the original "5yr plan", I think it' fair to say that very few supporters would have imagined us seriously heading for top ten (and above) during 2013/14.

MP and his team have been AMAZING!!! :O)
Harping back to the original "5yr plan", I think it' fair to say that very few supporters would have imagined us seriously heading for top ten (and above) during 2013/14. MP and his team have been AMAZING!!! :O) Baddesley Bill
  • Score: 1

6:57pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Saintsayer II says...

Although I don't likr the guy I have enjoyed watching the so called top sides struggle with his system Part of the 5 year plan was to be challenging for a top 4/6 place and have half the squad provided by the academy system So its still a job in progress
Although I don't likr the guy I have enjoyed watching the so called top sides struggle with his system Part of the 5 year plan was to be challenging for a top 4/6 place and have half the squad provided by the academy system So its still a job in progress Saintsayer II
  • Score: -6

6:58pm Mon 13 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

While certain posters on here are criticising us for not filling the Stadium I think you are just preaching to the converted, it isn't us you should be trying to get the message across to, we already pack the park as best as we can. Half the problem is the less than favourable press that we get, the fact is we are bugging the red tops, we are treated as interlopers in the big boys territory, success breed success, the more we succeed the more converts we will get, your job is to spread the word, not preach to us, the faithful who already have got the message.
While certain posters on here are criticising us for not filling the Stadium I think you are just preaching to the converted, it isn't us you should be trying to get the message across to, we already pack the park as best as we can. Half the problem is the less than favourable press that we get, the fact is we are bugging the red tops, we are treated as interlopers in the big boys territory, success breed success, the more we succeed the more converts we will get, your job is to spread the word, not preach to us, the faithful who already have got the message. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 5

7:05pm Mon 13 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
Although I don't likr the guy I have enjoyed watching the so called top sides struggle with his system Part of the 5 year plan was to be challenging for a top 4/6 place and have half the squad provided by the academy system So its still a job in progress
I am afraid you are on a loser here, if you cannot bring yourself to like Poch, your fulfilment will never be achieved, because there will always be that nagging dislike, which will ruin any good feelings that success will bring, so, give it up I say there's another team down the M27 that would enjoy your kind of melancholy. Unless you can rid yourself of this malaise, you will be made for each other! ;o|
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: Although I don't likr the guy I have enjoyed watching the so called top sides struggle with his system Part of the 5 year plan was to be challenging for a top 4/6 place and have half the squad provided by the academy system So its still a job in progress[/p][/quote]I am afraid you are on a loser here, if you cannot bring yourself to like Poch, your fulfilment will never be achieved, because there will always be that nagging dislike, which will ruin any good feelings that success will bring, so, give it up I say there's another team down the M27 that would enjoy your kind of melancholy. Unless you can rid yourself of this malaise, you will be made for each other! ;o| OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

7:09pm Mon 13 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Chriops wrote:
Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right.

For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well.

Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected.

For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up.

Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results.
Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality.

Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit.

Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club.

If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.
The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable….

..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!…

..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.
I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.
Excuses….they earn less too

.. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside)

...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times.

Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game..

Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...
A quick question, how many members of your own immediate family go to St. Marys with you each home game, I can say that 100% of my household go to every home game.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chriops[/bold] wrote: Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right. For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well. Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected. For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up. Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results. Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality. Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit. Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club. If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.[/p][/quote]The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable…. ..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!… ..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.[/p][/quote]Excuses….they earn less too .. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside) ...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times. Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game.. Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...[/p][/quote]A quick question, how many members of your own immediate family go to St. Marys with you each home game, I can say that 100% of my household go to every home game. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -5

7:12pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Velleity says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
Although I don't likr the guy I have enjoyed watching the so called top sides struggle with his system Part of the 5 year plan was to be challenging for a top 4/6 place and have half the squad provided by the academy system So its still a job in progress
Good point in there that it's the bigger teams that get the biggest shock when someone actually takes the game to them.

NowMP just needs to find a way past "park the bus and hoof" merchants (AKA Wet Spam).
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: Although I don't likr the guy I have enjoyed watching the so called top sides struggle with his system Part of the 5 year plan was to be challenging for a top 4/6 place and have half the squad provided by the academy system So its still a job in progress[/p][/quote]Good point in there that it's the bigger teams that get the biggest shock when someone actually takes the game to them. NowMP just needs to find a way past "park the bus and hoof" merchants (AKA Wet Spam). Velleity
  • Score: 2

7:13pm Mon 13 Jan 14

slugger says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
While certain posters on here are criticising us for not filling the Stadium I think you are just preaching to the converted, it isn't us you should be trying to get the message across to, we already pack the park as best as we can. Half the problem is the less than favourable press that we get, the fact is we are bugging the red tops, we are treated as interlopers in the big boys territory, success breed success, the more we succeed the more converts we will get, your job is to spread the word, not preach to us, the faithful who already have got the message.
It is changing , when I first started taking my youngest to Sholing FC soccer school (3 years ago) I reckon 10% of the kids were wearing Saints shirts , now my guess is that it's about 80% .......... It's happening under our very noses !
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: While certain posters on here are criticising us for not filling the Stadium I think you are just preaching to the converted, it isn't us you should be trying to get the message across to, we already pack the park as best as we can. Half the problem is the less than favourable press that we get, the fact is we are bugging the red tops, we are treated as interlopers in the big boys territory, success breed success, the more we succeed the more converts we will get, your job is to spread the word, not preach to us, the faithful who already have got the message.[/p][/quote]It is changing , when I first started taking my youngest to Sholing FC soccer school (3 years ago) I reckon 10% of the kids were wearing Saints shirts , now my guess is that it's about 80% .......... It's happening under our very noses ! slugger
  • Score: 3

7:13pm Mon 13 Jan 14

upwherewebelong says...

I feel I can only vote that he's doing a "good" job as our record against the top 6 sides isn't great. Another minor moan I have is his lack of belief that our squad still needs a couple of additions. Who really thinks Maya and Jos are suitable for this level and that we couldn't do better by looking in this transfer window. That said overall he's doing what we expect which is progress and thus is doing a good job
I feel I can only vote that he's doing a "good" job as our record against the top 6 sides isn't great. Another minor moan I have is his lack of belief that our squad still needs a couple of additions. Who really thinks Maya and Jos are suitable for this level and that we couldn't do better by looking in this transfer window. That said overall he's doing what we expect which is progress and thus is doing a good job upwherewebelong
  • Score: 0

7:21pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Emsworthsaint says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
In my opinion MP has done better than Nigel Adkins in producing better attacking football and getting more out of the players. Tactically I sometimes question his team selections and substitutions but generally he is doing good. One thing he now needs is to do interviews in English as I understand that he does speak it quite well.
Also hope that he & NC sign a couple of quality players this Jan window to push us back up into the top six by end of the season.
I do not get the 'must speak English' ? Why ? What are you not getting from the clear translation ? Look at Pardew having to apologise for his rant. The managers talking comes by the way the team is playing, after all, they all say the same stuff when they loose or when they win. Get over it.
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: In my opinion MP has done better than Nigel Adkins in producing better attacking football and getting more out of the players. Tactically I sometimes question his team selections and substitutions but generally he is doing good. One thing he now needs is to do interviews in English as I understand that he does speak it quite well. Also hope that he & NC sign a couple of quality players this Jan window to push us back up into the top six by end of the season.[/p][/quote]I do not get the 'must speak English' ? Why ? What are you not getting from the clear translation ? Look at Pardew having to apologise for his rant. The managers talking comes by the way the team is playing, after all, they all say the same stuff when they loose or when they win. Get over it. Emsworthsaint
  • Score: 6

7:59pm Mon 13 Jan 14

st1halo says...

To realise the aspirations of this club, to nail 'The Southampton Way' colours to the mast, there is no better than Mauricio Pochettino. He shares our beliefs and ambitions and fits perfectly with thedirection of SFC. The transformation began and was evident in that first game v Everton and has evolved. He is tactically astute and has a deep understanding of the emotion of the game, promoting the youngsters whilst protecting them, building team spirit and adding flair to our football. Not just a good manager for the team, a good ambassador for the club.

STID
To realise the aspirations of this club, to nail 'The Southampton Way' colours to the mast, there is no better than Mauricio Pochettino. He shares our beliefs and ambitions and fits perfectly with thedirection of SFC. The transformation began and was evident in that first game v Everton and has evolved. He is tactically astute and has a deep understanding of the emotion of the game, promoting the youngsters whilst protecting them, building team spirit and adding flair to our football. Not just a good manager for the team, a good ambassador for the club. STID st1halo
  • Score: 5

8:08pm Mon 13 Jan 14

ghk230473 says...

Velleity wrote:
I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed.

Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening.

I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.
Couple of points
* name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy.
* with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed. Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening. I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.[/p][/quote]Couple of points * name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy. * with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water ghk230473
  • Score: 16

8:08pm Mon 13 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

upwherewebelong wrote:
I feel I can only vote that he's doing a "good" job as our record against the top 6 sides isn't great. Another minor moan I have is his lack of belief that our squad still needs a couple of additions. Who really thinks Maya and Jos are suitable for this level and that we couldn't do better by looking in this transfer window. That said overall he's doing what we expect which is progress and thus is doing a good job
If you look at the top 6, I think you will find they have had plenty of time, pots of money and the best of everything, so it is not exactly rocket science to find us struggling against them at times, but not always, Man City didn't find us the walkovers that they expected did they, Liverpool albeit without Suarez caught a cold? This if all goes well could happen more often, but not overnight it takes time and all the pieces of the jigsaw have to be in place.
[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: I feel I can only vote that he's doing a "good" job as our record against the top 6 sides isn't great. Another minor moan I have is his lack of belief that our squad still needs a couple of additions. Who really thinks Maya and Jos are suitable for this level and that we couldn't do better by looking in this transfer window. That said overall he's doing what we expect which is progress and thus is doing a good job[/p][/quote]If you look at the top 6, I think you will find they have had plenty of time, pots of money and the best of everything, so it is not exactly rocket science to find us struggling against them at times, but not always, Man City didn't find us the walkovers that they expected did they, Liverpool albeit without Suarez caught a cold? This if all goes well could happen more often, but not overnight it takes time and all the pieces of the jigsaw have to be in place. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

8:18pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Clausentum Saint says...

Saints are going places, have no doubt about it. SFC are destined to be a real changing force in English football and I just love it. We will challenge the orthodoxy of the English game and how it is run,we will reinvigorate a pride in English football and in Young English footballing talent, COYR'S
Saints are going places, have no doubt about it. SFC are destined to be a real changing force in English football and I just love it. We will challenge the orthodoxy of the English game and how it is run,we will reinvigorate a pride in English football and in Young English footballing talent, COYR'S Clausentum Saint
  • Score: 2

8:18pm Mon 13 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed.

Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening.

I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.
Couple of points
* name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy.
* with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water
Can't recall Ted Bates mentioning the Academy much. I must be different because I enjoyed Saturdays game between two teams with a plan, my team won because they were better on the day. I have seen us play a lot better and still lost, I was happier this week. Shake me too, I have reputation of being the most boring poster on here, Velly is a sparkling wit in comparison. You have a limited sense of humour, that is no help to me as you keep taking me seriously, you just don't want to do that, it's bad for you.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed. Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening. I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.[/p][/quote]Couple of points * name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy. * with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water[/p][/quote]Can't recall Ted Bates mentioning the Academy much. I must be different because I enjoyed Saturdays game between two teams with a plan, my team won because they were better on the day. I have seen us play a lot better and still lost, I was happier this week. Shake me too, I have reputation of being the most boring poster on here, Velly is a sparkling wit in comparison. You have a limited sense of humour, that is no help to me as you keep taking me seriously, you just don't want to do that, it's bad for you. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -4

8:19pm Mon 13 Jan 14

ghk230473 says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed.

Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening.

I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.
Couple of points
* name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy.
* with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water
God knows who is giving me the thumbs up...but I suspect it's more to do with the dis like of val than me;-)
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed. Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening. I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.[/p][/quote]Couple of points * name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy. * with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water[/p][/quote]God knows who is giving me the thumbs up...but I suspect it's more to do with the dis like of val than me;-) ghk230473
  • Score: 3

8:22pm Mon 13 Jan 14

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed.

Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening.

I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.
Couple of points
* name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy.
* with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water
Can't recall Ted Bates mentioning the Academy much. I must be different because I enjoyed Saturdays game between two teams with a plan, my team won because they were better on the day. I have seen us play a lot better and still lost, I was happier this week. Shake me too, I have reputation of being the most boring poster on here, Velly is a sparkling wit in comparison. You have a limited sense of humour, that is no help to me as you keep taking me seriously, you just don't want to do that, it's bad for you.
A reputation that you consistently live up to. Yes you are slightly more tedious and boring than val. Hinge and bracket!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed. Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening. I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.[/p][/quote]Couple of points * name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy. * with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water[/p][/quote]Can't recall Ted Bates mentioning the Academy much. I must be different because I enjoyed Saturdays game between two teams with a plan, my team won because they were better on the day. I have seen us play a lot better and still lost, I was happier this week. Shake me too, I have reputation of being the most boring poster on here, Velly is a sparkling wit in comparison. You have a limited sense of humour, that is no help to me as you keep taking me seriously, you just don't want to do that, it's bad for you.[/p][/quote]A reputation that you consistently live up to. Yes you are slightly more tedious and boring than val. Hinge and bracket! ghk230473
  • Score: 13

8:24pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Clever Dick says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Chriops wrote:
Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right.

For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well.

Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected.

For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up.

Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results.
Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality.

Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit.

Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club.

If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.
The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable….

..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!…

..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.
I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.
Excuses….they earn less too

.. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside)

...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times.

Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game..

Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...
Our average attendance this season =29881. That is the twelfth highest and higher than Norwich's Whatever makes you think they earn less in Newcastle I really don't know. Would be very interesting to hear your reasoning for that given that big nationwide employers like the banks, civil servants, council workers, telecomms companies etc etc all have national wage rates. And apart from that housing costs up north are considerably cheaper .
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chriops[/bold] wrote: Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right. For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well. Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected. For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up. Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results. Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality. Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit. Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club. If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.[/p][/quote]The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable…. ..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!… ..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.[/p][/quote]Excuses….they earn less too .. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside) ...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times. Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game.. Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...[/p][/quote]Our average attendance this season =29881. That is the twelfth highest and higher than Norwich's Whatever makes you think they earn less in Newcastle I really don't know. Would be very interesting to hear your reasoning for that given that big nationwide employers like the banks, civil servants, council workers, telecomms companies etc etc all have national wage rates. And apart from that housing costs up north are considerably cheaper . Clever Dick
  • Score: 3

8:25pm Mon 13 Jan 14

slugger says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed.

Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening.

I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.
Couple of points
* name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy.
* with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water
Can't recall Ted Bates mentioning the Academy much. I must be different because I enjoyed Saturdays game between two teams with a plan, my team won because they were better on the day. I have seen us play a lot better and still lost, I was happier this week. Shake me too, I have reputation of being the most boring poster on here, Velly is a sparkling wit in comparison. You have a limited sense of humour, that is no help to me as you keep taking me seriously, you just don't want to do that, it's bad for you.
A reputation that you consistently live up to. Yes you are slightly more tedious and boring than val. Hinge and bracket!
If supporting your team through thick and thin makes one tedious then count me in !
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed. Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening. I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.[/p][/quote]Couple of points * name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy. * with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water[/p][/quote]Can't recall Ted Bates mentioning the Academy much. I must be different because I enjoyed Saturdays game between two teams with a plan, my team won because they were better on the day. I have seen us play a lot better and still lost, I was happier this week. Shake me too, I have reputation of being the most boring poster on here, Velly is a sparkling wit in comparison. You have a limited sense of humour, that is no help to me as you keep taking me seriously, you just don't want to do that, it's bad for you.[/p][/quote]A reputation that you consistently live up to. Yes you are slightly more tedious and boring than val. Hinge and bracket![/p][/quote]If supporting your team through thick and thin makes one tedious then count me in ! slugger
  • Score: -8

8:29pm Mon 13 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed.

Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening.

I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.
Couple of points
* name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy.
* with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water
Can't recall Ted Bates mentioning the Academy much. I must be different because I enjoyed Saturdays game between two teams with a plan, my team won because they were better on the day. I have seen us play a lot better and still lost, I was happier this week. Shake me too, I have reputation of being the most boring poster on here, Velly is a sparkling wit in comparison. You have a limited sense of humour, that is no help to me as you keep taking me seriously, you just don't want to do that, it's bad for you.
A reputation that you consistently live up to. Yes you are slightly more tedious and boring than val. Hinge and bracket!
Thanks, I will try to keep up the good work, I set myself extremely low targets, never reach them but no harm in trying. What is your excuse for the lack of interesting things to say?
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed. Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening. I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.[/p][/quote]Couple of points * name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy. * with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water[/p][/quote]Can't recall Ted Bates mentioning the Academy much. I must be different because I enjoyed Saturdays game between two teams with a plan, my team won because they were better on the day. I have seen us play a lot better and still lost, I was happier this week. Shake me too, I have reputation of being the most boring poster on here, Velly is a sparkling wit in comparison. You have a limited sense of humour, that is no help to me as you keep taking me seriously, you just don't want to do that, it's bad for you.[/p][/quote]A reputation that you consistently live up to. Yes you are slightly more tedious and boring than val. Hinge and bracket![/p][/quote]Thanks, I will try to keep up the good work, I set myself extremely low targets, never reach them but no harm in trying. What is your excuse for the lack of interesting things to say? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -4

8:31pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Meribelsaint says...

Brilliant first year in charge. I couldn't be happier with the way things are going. Not so long ago, I was praying that I'd just have my team to support, now I'm actually dreaming of European footy. Pards and Adkins both played their part in that transformation but Poch really has taken us to another level.
Brilliant first year in charge. I couldn't be happier with the way things are going. Not so long ago, I was praying that I'd just have my team to support, now I'm actually dreaming of European footy. Pards and Adkins both played their part in that transformation but Poch really has taken us to another level. Meribelsaint
  • Score: 5

8:31pm Mon 13 Jan 14

ghk230473 says...

slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed.

Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening.

I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.
Couple of points
* name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy.
* with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water
Can't recall Ted Bates mentioning the Academy much. I must be different because I enjoyed Saturdays game between two teams with a plan, my team won because they were better on the day. I have seen us play a lot better and still lost, I was happier this week. Shake me too, I have reputation of being the most boring poster on here, Velly is a sparkling wit in comparison. You have a limited sense of humour, that is no help to me as you keep taking me seriously, you just don't want to do that, it's bad for you.
A reputation that you consistently live up to. Yes you are slightly more tedious and boring than val. Hinge and bracket!
If supporting your team through thick and thin makes one tedious then count me in !
Your in... Naturally;-)
I'm not getting dragged into a b1tch fight, let's have a decent debate, I dare any 1
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed. Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening. I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.[/p][/quote]Couple of points * name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy. * with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water[/p][/quote]Can't recall Ted Bates mentioning the Academy much. I must be different because I enjoyed Saturdays game between two teams with a plan, my team won because they were better on the day. I have seen us play a lot better and still lost, I was happier this week. Shake me too, I have reputation of being the most boring poster on here, Velly is a sparkling wit in comparison. You have a limited sense of humour, that is no help to me as you keep taking me seriously, you just don't want to do that, it's bad for you.[/p][/quote]A reputation that you consistently live up to. Yes you are slightly more tedious and boring than val. Hinge and bracket![/p][/quote]If supporting your team through thick and thin makes one tedious then count me in ![/p][/quote]Your in... Naturally;-) I'm not getting dragged into a b1tch fight, let's have a decent debate, I dare any 1 ghk230473
  • Score: 12

8:35pm Mon 13 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

More boring news Arsenal 2 up. Villa handicapped by Nathan Baker being carried off after the ball smashed into his face and was carried off
More boring news Arsenal 2 up. Villa handicapped by Nathan Baker being carried off after the ball smashed into his face and was carried off OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -4

8:37pm Mon 13 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed.

Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening.

I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.
Couple of points
* name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy.
* with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water
Can't recall Ted Bates mentioning the Academy much. I must be different because I enjoyed Saturdays game between two teams with a plan, my team won because they were better on the day. I have seen us play a lot better and still lost, I was happier this week. Shake me too, I have reputation of being the most boring poster on here, Velly is a sparkling wit in comparison. You have a limited sense of humour, that is no help to me as you keep taking me seriously, you just don't want to do that, it's bad for you.
A reputation that you consistently live up to. Yes you are slightly more tedious and boring than val. Hinge and bracket!
If supporting your team through thick and thin makes one tedious then count me in !
Your in... Naturally;-)
I'm not getting dragged into a b1tch fight, let's have a decent debate, I dare any 1
Some hope on here.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed. Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening. I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.[/p][/quote]Couple of points * name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy. * with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water[/p][/quote]Can't recall Ted Bates mentioning the Academy much. I must be different because I enjoyed Saturdays game between two teams with a plan, my team won because they were better on the day. I have seen us play a lot better and still lost, I was happier this week. Shake me too, I have reputation of being the most boring poster on here, Velly is a sparkling wit in comparison. You have a limited sense of humour, that is no help to me as you keep taking me seriously, you just don't want to do that, it's bad for you.[/p][/quote]A reputation that you consistently live up to. Yes you are slightly more tedious and boring than val. Hinge and bracket![/p][/quote]If supporting your team through thick and thin makes one tedious then count me in ![/p][/quote]Your in... Naturally;-) I'm not getting dragged into a b1tch fight, let's have a decent debate, I dare any 1[/p][/quote]Some hope on here. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -2

8:37pm Mon 13 Jan 14

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
More boring news Arsenal 2 up. Villa handicapped by Nathan Baker being carried off after the ball smashed into his face and was carried off
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
;-)
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: More boring news Arsenal 2 up. Villa handicapped by Nathan Baker being carried off after the ball smashed into his face and was carried off[/p][/quote]Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ;-) ghk230473
  • Score: 4

8:40pm Mon 13 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Chriops wrote:
Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right.

For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well.

Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected.

For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up.

Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results.
Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality.

Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit.

Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club.

If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.
The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable….

..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!…

..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.
I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.
Excuses….they earn less too

.. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside)

...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times.

Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game..

Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...
Our average attendance this season =29881. That is the twelfth highest and higher than Norwich's Whatever makes you think they earn less in Newcastle I really don't know. Would be very interesting to hear your reasoning for that given that big nationwide employers like the banks, civil servants, council workers, telecomms companies etc etc all have national wage rates. And apart from that housing costs up north are considerably cheaper .
Those figures aren't bad, but I worry more that we don't get better support for the Cup games, I know it's extra cash again and the ticketing facilities are still Division 1 class, but surely you could make more of an effort?
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chriops[/bold] wrote: Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right. For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well. Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected. For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up. Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results. Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality. Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit. Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club. If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.[/p][/quote]The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable…. ..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!… ..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.[/p][/quote]Excuses….they earn less too .. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside) ...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times. Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game.. Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...[/p][/quote]Our average attendance this season =29881. That is the twelfth highest and higher than Norwich's Whatever makes you think they earn less in Newcastle I really don't know. Would be very interesting to hear your reasoning for that given that big nationwide employers like the banks, civil servants, council workers, telecomms companies etc etc all have national wage rates. And apart from that housing costs up north are considerably cheaper .[/p][/quote]Those figures aren't bad, but I worry more that we don't get better support for the Cup games, I know it's extra cash again and the ticketing facilities are still Division 1 class, but surely you could make more of an effort? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

8:41pm Mon 13 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
More boring news Arsenal 2 up. Villa handicapped by Nathan Baker being carried off after the ball smashed into his face and was carried off
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
;-)
With you there.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: More boring news Arsenal 2 up. Villa handicapped by Nathan Baker being carried off after the ball smashed into his face and was carried off[/p][/quote]Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ;-)[/p][/quote]With you there. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

8:57pm Mon 13 Jan 14

slugger says...

ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed.

Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening.

I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.
Couple of points
* name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy.
* with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water
Can't recall Ted Bates mentioning the Academy much. I must be different because I enjoyed Saturdays game between two teams with a plan, my team won because they were better on the day. I have seen us play a lot better and still lost, I was happier this week. Shake me too, I have reputation of being the most boring poster on here, Velly is a sparkling wit in comparison. You have a limited sense of humour, that is no help to me as you keep taking me seriously, you just don't want to do that, it's bad for you.
A reputation that you consistently live up to. Yes you are slightly more tedious and boring than val. Hinge and bracket!
If supporting your team through thick and thin makes one tedious then count me in !
Your in... Naturally;-)
I'm not getting dragged into a b1tch fight, let's have a decent debate, I dare any 1
I feel accepted now .......... IMO Saints are playing the best football I've ever witnessed , if we keep improving year on year at the same rate we'll be out of the sight of any other team on the planet ! .......... Fantasy I know ..... But I do know my history ......... Nice to speak again GHK , You do make me smile .
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed. Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening. I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.[/p][/quote]Couple of points * name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy. * with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water[/p][/quote]Can't recall Ted Bates mentioning the Academy much. I must be different because I enjoyed Saturdays game between two teams with a plan, my team won because they were better on the day. I have seen us play a lot better and still lost, I was happier this week. Shake me too, I have reputation of being the most boring poster on here, Velly is a sparkling wit in comparison. You have a limited sense of humour, that is no help to me as you keep taking me seriously, you just don't want to do that, it's bad for you.[/p][/quote]A reputation that you consistently live up to. Yes you are slightly more tedious and boring than val. Hinge and bracket![/p][/quote]If supporting your team through thick and thin makes one tedious then count me in ![/p][/quote]Your in... Naturally;-) I'm not getting dragged into a b1tch fight, let's have a decent debate, I dare any 1[/p][/quote]I feel accepted now .......... IMO Saints are playing the best football I've ever witnessed , if we keep improving year on year at the same rate we'll be out of the sight of any other team on the planet ! .......... Fantasy I know ..... But I do know my history ......... Nice to speak again GHK , You do make me smile . slugger
  • Score: -3

9:05pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Clever Dick says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Chriops wrote:
Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right.

For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well.

Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected.

For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up.

Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results.
Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality.

Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit.

Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club.

If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.
The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable….

..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!…

..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.
I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.
Excuses….they earn less too

.. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside)

...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times.

Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game..

Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...
Our average attendance this season =29881. That is the twelfth highest and higher than Norwich's Whatever makes you think they earn less in Newcastle I really don't know. Would be very interesting to hear your reasoning for that given that big nationwide employers like the banks, civil servants, council workers, telecomms companies etc etc all have national wage rates. And apart from that housing costs up north are considerably cheaper .
Those figures aren't bad, but I worry more that we don't get better support for the Cup games, I know it's extra cash again and the ticketing facilities are still Division 1 class, but surely you could make more of an effort?
Well you have me there. I don't go to cup games. It's a question of finance. I'm retired and to be honest I'm pushing the boat out paying for a season ticket. In a lot of fans minds that doesn't make me a proper fan. That doesn't worry me, they can think what they like. I also have to travel and every game costs me around £60 to £65. As you said earlier, we also have to eat.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chriops[/bold] wrote: Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right. For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well. Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected. For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up. Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results. Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality. Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit. Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club. If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.[/p][/quote]The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable…. ..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!… ..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.[/p][/quote]Excuses….they earn less too .. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside) ...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times. Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game.. Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...[/p][/quote]Our average attendance this season =29881. That is the twelfth highest and higher than Norwich's Whatever makes you think they earn less in Newcastle I really don't know. Would be very interesting to hear your reasoning for that given that big nationwide employers like the banks, civil servants, council workers, telecomms companies etc etc all have national wage rates. And apart from that housing costs up north are considerably cheaper .[/p][/quote]Those figures aren't bad, but I worry more that we don't get better support for the Cup games, I know it's extra cash again and the ticketing facilities are still Division 1 class, but surely you could make more of an effort?[/p][/quote]Well you have me there. I don't go to cup games. It's a question of finance. I'm retired and to be honest I'm pushing the boat out paying for a season ticket. In a lot of fans minds that doesn't make me a proper fan. That doesn't worry me, they can think what they like. I also have to travel and every game costs me around £60 to £65. As you said earlier, we also have to eat. Clever Dick
  • Score: 3

9:05pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Clever Dick says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Chriops wrote:
Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right.

For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well.

Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected.

For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up.

Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results.
Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality.

Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit.

Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club.

If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.
The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable….

..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!…

..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.
I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.
Excuses….they earn less too

.. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside)

...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times.

Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game..

Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...
Our average attendance this season =29881. That is the twelfth highest and higher than Norwich's Whatever makes you think they earn less in Newcastle I really don't know. Would be very interesting to hear your reasoning for that given that big nationwide employers like the banks, civil servants, council workers, telecomms companies etc etc all have national wage rates. And apart from that housing costs up north are considerably cheaper .
Those figures aren't bad, but I worry more that we don't get better support for the Cup games, I know it's extra cash again and the ticketing facilities are still Division 1 class, but surely you could make more of an effort?
Well you have me there. I don't go to cup games. It's a question of finance. I'm retired and to be honest I'm pushing the boat out paying for a season ticket. In a lot of fans minds that doesn't make me a proper fan. That doesn't worry me, they can think what they like. I also have to travel and every game costs me around £60 to £65. As you said earlier, we also have to eat.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chriops[/bold] wrote: Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right. For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well. Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected. For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up. Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results. Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality. Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit. Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club. If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.[/p][/quote]The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable…. ..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!… ..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.[/p][/quote]Excuses….they earn less too .. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside) ...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times. Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game.. Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...[/p][/quote]Our average attendance this season =29881. That is the twelfth highest and higher than Norwich's Whatever makes you think they earn less in Newcastle I really don't know. Would be very interesting to hear your reasoning for that given that big nationwide employers like the banks, civil servants, council workers, telecomms companies etc etc all have national wage rates. And apart from that housing costs up north are considerably cheaper .[/p][/quote]Those figures aren't bad, but I worry more that we don't get better support for the Cup games, I know it's extra cash again and the ticketing facilities are still Division 1 class, but surely you could make more of an effort?[/p][/quote]Well you have me there. I don't go to cup games. It's a question of finance. I'm retired and to be honest I'm pushing the boat out paying for a season ticket. In a lot of fans minds that doesn't make me a proper fan. That doesn't worry me, they can think what they like. I also have to travel and every game costs me around £60 to £65. As you said earlier, we also have to eat. Clever Dick
  • Score: 2

9:07pm Mon 13 Jan 14

ghk230473 says...

slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed.

Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening.

I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.
Couple of points
* name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy.
* with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water
Can't recall Ted Bates mentioning the Academy much. I must be different because I enjoyed Saturdays game between two teams with a plan, my team won because they were better on the day. I have seen us play a lot better and still lost, I was happier this week. Shake me too, I have reputation of being the most boring poster on here, Velly is a sparkling wit in comparison. You have a limited sense of humour, that is no help to me as you keep taking me seriously, you just don't want to do that, it's bad for you.
A reputation that you consistently live up to. Yes you are slightly more tedious and boring than val. Hinge and bracket!
If supporting your team through thick and thin makes one tedious then count me in !
Your in... Naturally;-)
I'm not getting dragged into a b1tch fight, let's have a decent debate, I dare any 1
I feel accepted now .......... IMO Saints are playing the best football I've ever witnessed , if we keep improving year on year at the same rate we'll be out of the sight of any other team on the planet ! .......... Fantasy I know ..... But I do know my history ......... Nice to speak again GHK , You do make me smile .
And you slug, always enjoyed our banter. Honest opinion, yes mopo has taken us to another level, the players I think look up to him as he can practice what he preaches being an Argie international. Some players have thrived like lallana, jwp, Rodrigues which is good. I personally like Ramirez and cork, I don't know why they've struggled a bit but do feel they are worth more game time. Shocked that fox had been given more!
Our league position fits our size and facilities. To progress will take a lot of improvement from the size of stadium, support from fans and size/ quality of squad. Big question can all step up to the plate? I say no as football doesn't mean as much to us down south as it does up north.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed. Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening. I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.[/p][/quote]Couple of points * name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy. * with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water[/p][/quote]Can't recall Ted Bates mentioning the Academy much. I must be different because I enjoyed Saturdays game between two teams with a plan, my team won because they were better on the day. I have seen us play a lot better and still lost, I was happier this week. Shake me too, I have reputation of being the most boring poster on here, Velly is a sparkling wit in comparison. You have a limited sense of humour, that is no help to me as you keep taking me seriously, you just don't want to do that, it's bad for you.[/p][/quote]A reputation that you consistently live up to. Yes you are slightly more tedious and boring than val. Hinge and bracket![/p][/quote]If supporting your team through thick and thin makes one tedious then count me in ![/p][/quote]Your in... Naturally;-) I'm not getting dragged into a b1tch fight, let's have a decent debate, I dare any 1[/p][/quote]I feel accepted now .......... IMO Saints are playing the best football I've ever witnessed , if we keep improving year on year at the same rate we'll be out of the sight of any other team on the planet ! .......... Fantasy I know ..... But I do know my history ......... Nice to speak again GHK , You do make me smile .[/p][/quote]And you slug, always enjoyed our banter. Honest opinion, yes mopo has taken us to another level, the players I think look up to him as he can practice what he preaches being an Argie international. Some players have thrived like lallana, jwp, Rodrigues which is good. I personally like Ramirez and cork, I don't know why they've struggled a bit but do feel they are worth more game time. Shocked that fox had been given more! Our league position fits our size and facilities. To progress will take a lot of improvement from the size of stadium, support from fans and size/ quality of squad. Big question can all step up to the plate? I say no as football doesn't mean as much to us down south as it does up north. ghk230473
  • Score: 1

9:09pm Mon 13 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Clever Dick wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Chriops wrote:
Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right.

For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well.

Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected.

For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up.

Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results.
Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality.

Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit.

Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club.

If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.
The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable….

..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!…

..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.
I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.
Excuses….they earn less too

.. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside)

...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times.

Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game..

Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...
Our average attendance this season =29881. That is the twelfth highest and higher than Norwich's Whatever makes you think they earn less in Newcastle I really don't know. Would be very interesting to hear your reasoning for that given that big nationwide employers like the banks, civil servants, council workers, telecomms companies etc etc all have national wage rates. And apart from that housing costs up north are considerably cheaper .
Those figures aren't bad, but I worry more that we don't get better support for the Cup games, I know it's extra cash again and the ticketing facilities are still Division 1 class, but surely you could make more of an effort?
Well you have me there. I don't go to cup games. It's a question of finance. I'm retired and to be honest I'm pushing the boat out paying for a season ticket. In a lot of fans minds that doesn't make me a proper fan. That doesn't worry me, they can think what they like. I also have to travel and every game costs me around £60 to £65. As you said earlier, we also have to eat.
As I said earlier, preaching to the converted, I am sure if good fortune came your way, the first thing you would do is get a Cup ticket or two to follow the team, it emphasises what I said, there is no lack of desire, just a need to prioritise the cash flow. The ones that are making the fuss are probably loaded or starving!
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chriops[/bold] wrote: Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right. For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well. Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected. For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up. Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results. Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality. Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit. Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club. If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.[/p][/quote]The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable…. ..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!… ..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.[/p][/quote]Excuses….they earn less too .. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside) ...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times. Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game.. Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...[/p][/quote]Our average attendance this season =29881. That is the twelfth highest and higher than Norwich's Whatever makes you think they earn less in Newcastle I really don't know. Would be very interesting to hear your reasoning for that given that big nationwide employers like the banks, civil servants, council workers, telecomms companies etc etc all have national wage rates. And apart from that housing costs up north are considerably cheaper .[/p][/quote]Those figures aren't bad, but I worry more that we don't get better support for the Cup games, I know it's extra cash again and the ticketing facilities are still Division 1 class, but surely you could make more of an effort?[/p][/quote]Well you have me there. I don't go to cup games. It's a question of finance. I'm retired and to be honest I'm pushing the boat out paying for a season ticket. In a lot of fans minds that doesn't make me a proper fan. That doesn't worry me, they can think what they like. I also have to travel and every game costs me around £60 to £65. As you said earlier, we also have to eat.[/p][/quote]As I said earlier, preaching to the converted, I am sure if good fortune came your way, the first thing you would do is get a Cup ticket or two to follow the team, it emphasises what I said, there is no lack of desire, just a need to prioritise the cash flow. The ones that are making the fuss are probably loaded or starving! OSPREYSAINT
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9:16pm Mon 13 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Clever Dick wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Chriops wrote:
Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right.

For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well.

Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected.

For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up.

Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results.
Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality.

Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit.

Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club.

If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.
The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable….

..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!…

..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.
I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.
Excuses….they earn less too

.. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside)

...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times.

Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game..

Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...
Our average attendance this season =29881. That is the twelfth highest and higher than Norwich's Whatever makes you think they earn less in Newcastle I really don't know. Would be very interesting to hear your reasoning for that given that big nationwide employers like the banks, civil servants, council workers, telecomms companies etc etc all have national wage rates. And apart from that housing costs up north are considerably cheaper .
Those figures aren't bad, but I worry more that we don't get better support for the Cup games, I know it's extra cash again and the ticketing facilities are still Division 1 class, but surely you could make more of an effort?
Well you have me there. I don't go to cup games. It's a question of finance. I'm retired and to be honest I'm pushing the boat out paying for a season ticket. In a lot of fans minds that doesn't make me a proper fan. That doesn't worry me, they can think what they like. I also have to travel and every game costs me around £60 to £65. As you said earlier, we also have to eat.
I am retired too and when I said 100% of my household go to as many matches as we can, there are only two of us, both pensioners and friittering away our hard earned savings on Season tickets and cup matches, when we really could do with a new bathroom suite, can't afford both, it's a matter of priority.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chriops[/bold] wrote: Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right. For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well. Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected. For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up. Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results. Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality. Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit. Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club. If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.[/p][/quote]The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable…. ..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!… ..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.[/p][/quote]Excuses….they earn less too .. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside) ...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times. Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game.. Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...[/p][/quote]Our average attendance this season =29881. That is the twelfth highest and higher than Norwich's Whatever makes you think they earn less in Newcastle I really don't know. Would be very interesting to hear your reasoning for that given that big nationwide employers like the banks, civil servants, council workers, telecomms companies etc etc all have national wage rates. And apart from that housing costs up north are considerably cheaper .[/p][/quote]Those figures aren't bad, but I worry more that we don't get better support for the Cup games, I know it's extra cash again and the ticketing facilities are still Division 1 class, but surely you could make more of an effort?[/p][/quote]Well you have me there. I don't go to cup games. It's a question of finance. I'm retired and to be honest I'm pushing the boat out paying for a season ticket. In a lot of fans minds that doesn't make me a proper fan. That doesn't worry me, they can think what they like. I also have to travel and every game costs me around £60 to £65. As you said earlier, we also have to eat.[/p][/quote]I am retired too and when I said 100% of my household go to as many matches as we can, there are only two of us, both pensioners and friittering away our hard earned savings on Season tickets and cup matches, when we really could do with a new bathroom suite, can't afford both, it's a matter of priority. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

9:17pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Clever Dick says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Chriops wrote:
Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right.

For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well.

Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected.

For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up.

Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results.
Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality.

Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit.

Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club.

If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.
The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable….

..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!…

..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.
I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.
Excuses….they earn less too

.. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside)

...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times.

Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game..

Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...
Our average attendance this season =29881. That is the twelfth highest and higher than Norwich's Whatever makes you think they earn less in Newcastle I really don't know. Would be very interesting to hear your reasoning for that given that big nationwide employers like the banks, civil servants, council workers, telecomms companies etc etc all have national wage rates. And apart from that housing costs up north are considerably cheaper .
Those figures aren't bad, but I worry more that we don't get better support for the Cup games, I know it's extra cash again and the ticketing facilities are still Division 1 class, but surely you could make more of an effort?
Well you have me there. I don't go to cup games. It's a question of finance. I'm retired and to be honest I'm pushing the boat out paying for a season ticket. In a lot of fans minds that doesn't make me a proper fan. That doesn't worry me, they can think what they like. I also have to travel and every game costs me around £60 to £65. As you said earlier, we also have to eat.
As I said earlier, preaching to the converted, I am sure if good fortune came your way, the first thing you would do is get a Cup ticket or two to follow the team, it emphasises what I said, there is no lack of desire, just a need to prioritise the cash flow. The ones that are making the fuss are probably loaded or starving!
Yeah. I daresay I'll be able to find a few coppers for the semi and the final though. :-)
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chriops[/bold] wrote: Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right. For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well. Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected. For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up. Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results. Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality. Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit. Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club. If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.[/p][/quote]The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable…. ..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!… ..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.[/p][/quote]Excuses….they earn less too .. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside) ...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times. Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game.. Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...[/p][/quote]Our average attendance this season =29881. That is the twelfth highest and higher than Norwich's Whatever makes you think they earn less in Newcastle I really don't know. Would be very interesting to hear your reasoning for that given that big nationwide employers like the banks, civil servants, council workers, telecomms companies etc etc all have national wage rates. And apart from that housing costs up north are considerably cheaper .[/p][/quote]Those figures aren't bad, but I worry more that we don't get better support for the Cup games, I know it's extra cash again and the ticketing facilities are still Division 1 class, but surely you could make more of an effort?[/p][/quote]Well you have me there. I don't go to cup games. It's a question of finance. I'm retired and to be honest I'm pushing the boat out paying for a season ticket. In a lot of fans minds that doesn't make me a proper fan. That doesn't worry me, they can think what they like. I also have to travel and every game costs me around £60 to £65. As you said earlier, we also have to eat.[/p][/quote]As I said earlier, preaching to the converted, I am sure if good fortune came your way, the first thing you would do is get a Cup ticket or two to follow the team, it emphasises what I said, there is no lack of desire, just a need to prioritise the cash flow. The ones that are making the fuss are probably loaded or starving![/p][/quote]Yeah. I daresay I'll be able to find a few coppers for the semi and the final though. :-) Clever Dick
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9:17pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Clever Dick says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Chriops wrote:
Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right.

For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well.

Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected.

For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up.

Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results.
Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality.

Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit.

Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club.

If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.
The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable….

..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!…

..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.
I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.
Excuses….they earn less too

.. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside)

...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times.

Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game..

Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...
Our average attendance this season =29881. That is the twelfth highest and higher than Norwich's Whatever makes you think they earn less in Newcastle I really don't know. Would be very interesting to hear your reasoning for that given that big nationwide employers like the banks, civil servants, council workers, telecomms companies etc etc all have national wage rates. And apart from that housing costs up north are considerably cheaper .
Those figures aren't bad, but I worry more that we don't get better support for the Cup games, I know it's extra cash again and the ticketing facilities are still Division 1 class, but surely you could make more of an effort?
Well you have me there. I don't go to cup games. It's a question of finance. I'm retired and to be honest I'm pushing the boat out paying for a season ticket. In a lot of fans minds that doesn't make me a proper fan. That doesn't worry me, they can think what they like. I also have to travel and every game costs me around £60 to £65. As you said earlier, we also have to eat.
As I said earlier, preaching to the converted, I am sure if good fortune came your way, the first thing you would do is get a Cup ticket or two to follow the team, it emphasises what I said, there is no lack of desire, just a need to prioritise the cash flow. The ones that are making the fuss are probably loaded or starving!
Yeah. I daresay I'll be able to find a few coppers for the semi and the final though. :-)
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chriops[/bold] wrote: Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right. For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well. Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected. For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up. Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results. Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality. Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit. Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club. If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.[/p][/quote]The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable…. ..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!… ..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.[/p][/quote]Excuses….they earn less too .. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside) ...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times. Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game.. Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...[/p][/quote]Our average attendance this season =29881. That is the twelfth highest and higher than Norwich's Whatever makes you think they earn less in Newcastle I really don't know. Would be very interesting to hear your reasoning for that given that big nationwide employers like the banks, civil servants, council workers, telecomms companies etc etc all have national wage rates. And apart from that housing costs up north are considerably cheaper .[/p][/quote]Those figures aren't bad, but I worry more that we don't get better support for the Cup games, I know it's extra cash again and the ticketing facilities are still Division 1 class, but surely you could make more of an effort?[/p][/quote]Well you have me there. I don't go to cup games. It's a question of finance. I'm retired and to be honest I'm pushing the boat out paying for a season ticket. In a lot of fans minds that doesn't make me a proper fan. That doesn't worry me, they can think what they like. I also have to travel and every game costs me around £60 to £65. As you said earlier, we also have to eat.[/p][/quote]As I said earlier, preaching to the converted, I am sure if good fortune came your way, the first thing you would do is get a Cup ticket or two to follow the team, it emphasises what I said, there is no lack of desire, just a need to prioritise the cash flow. The ones that are making the fuss are probably loaded or starving![/p][/quote]Yeah. I daresay I'll be able to find a few coppers for the semi and the final though. :-) Clever Dick
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9:20pm Mon 13 Jan 14

ghk230473 says...

Clever Dick wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Chriops wrote:
Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right.

For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well.

Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected.

For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up.

Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results.
Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality.

Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit.

Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club.

If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.
The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable….

..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!…

..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.
I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.
Excuses….they earn less too

.. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside)

...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times.

Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game..

Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...
Our average attendance this season =29881. That is the twelfth highest and higher than Norwich's Whatever makes you think they earn less in Newcastle I really don't know. Would be very interesting to hear your reasoning for that given that big nationwide employers like the banks, civil servants, council workers, telecomms companies etc etc all have national wage rates. And apart from that housing costs up north are considerably cheaper .
Those figures aren't bad, but I worry more that we don't get better support for the Cup games, I know it's extra cash again and the ticketing facilities are still Division 1 class, but surely you could make more of an effort?
Well you have me there. I don't go to cup games. It's a question of finance. I'm retired and to be honest I'm pushing the boat out paying for a season ticket. In a lot of fans minds that doesn't make me a proper fan. That doesn't worry me, they can think what they like. I also have to travel and every game costs me around £60 to £65. As you said earlier, we also have to eat.
As I said earlier, preaching to the converted, I am sure if good fortune came your way, the first thing you would do is get a Cup ticket or two to follow the team, it emphasises what I said, there is no lack of desire, just a need to prioritise the cash flow. The ones that are making the fuss are probably loaded or starving!
Yeah. I daresay I'll be able to find a few coppers for the semi and the final though. :-)
Senial too... You're repeating yourself!! ;-) (joke)
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chriops[/bold] wrote: Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right. For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well. Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected. For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up. Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results. Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality. Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit. Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club. If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.[/p][/quote]The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable…. ..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!… ..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.[/p][/quote]Excuses….they earn less too .. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside) ...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times. Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game.. Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...[/p][/quote]Our average attendance this season =29881. That is the twelfth highest and higher than Norwich's Whatever makes you think they earn less in Newcastle I really don't know. Would be very interesting to hear your reasoning for that given that big nationwide employers like the banks, civil servants, council workers, telecomms companies etc etc all have national wage rates. And apart from that housing costs up north are considerably cheaper .[/p][/quote]Those figures aren't bad, but I worry more that we don't get better support for the Cup games, I know it's extra cash again and the ticketing facilities are still Division 1 class, but surely you could make more of an effort?[/p][/quote]Well you have me there. I don't go to cup games. It's a question of finance. I'm retired and to be honest I'm pushing the boat out paying for a season ticket. In a lot of fans minds that doesn't make me a proper fan. That doesn't worry me, they can think what they like. I also have to travel and every game costs me around £60 to £65. As you said earlier, we also have to eat.[/p][/quote]As I said earlier, preaching to the converted, I am sure if good fortune came your way, the first thing you would do is get a Cup ticket or two to follow the team, it emphasises what I said, there is no lack of desire, just a need to prioritise the cash flow. The ones that are making the fuss are probably loaded or starving![/p][/quote]Yeah. I daresay I'll be able to find a few coppers for the semi and the final though. :-)[/p][/quote]Senial too... You're repeating yourself!! ;-) (joke) ghk230473
  • Score: -1

9:23pm Mon 13 Jan 14

slugger says...

ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed.

Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening.

I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.
Couple of points
* name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy.
* with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water
Can't recall Ted Bates mentioning the Academy much. I must be different because I enjoyed Saturdays game between two teams with a plan, my team won because they were better on the day. I have seen us play a lot better and still lost, I was happier this week. Shake me too, I have reputation of being the most boring poster on here, Velly is a sparkling wit in comparison. You have a limited sense of humour, that is no help to me as you keep taking me seriously, you just don't want to do that, it's bad for you.
A reputation that you consistently live up to. Yes you are slightly more tedious and boring than val. Hinge and bracket!
If supporting your team through thick and thin makes one tedious then count me in !
Your in... Naturally;-)
I'm not getting dragged into a b1tch fight, let's have a decent debate, I dare any 1
I feel accepted now .......... IMO Saints are playing the best football I've ever witnessed , if we keep improving year on year at the same rate we'll be out of the sight of any other team on the planet ! .......... Fantasy I know ..... But I do know my history ......... Nice to speak again GHK , You do make me smile .
And you slug, always enjoyed our banter. Honest opinion, yes mopo has taken us to another level, the players I think look up to him as he can practice what he preaches being an Argie international. Some players have thrived like lallana, jwp, Rodrigues which is good. I personally like Ramirez and cork, I don't know why they've struggled a bit but do feel they are worth more game time. Shocked that fox had been given more!
Our league position fits our size and facilities. To progress will take a lot of improvement from the size of stadium, support from fans and size/ quality of squad. Big question can all step up to the plate? I say no as football doesn't mean as much to us down south as it does up north.
Can't argue really ..... Just to say , i'm witnessing the youngsters wanting to wear Saints shirts and wishing they were Rickie Lambert ....... It is happening I assure you .
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed. Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening. I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.[/p][/quote]Couple of points * name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy. * with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water[/p][/quote]Can't recall Ted Bates mentioning the Academy much. I must be different because I enjoyed Saturdays game between two teams with a plan, my team won because they were better on the day. I have seen us play a lot better and still lost, I was happier this week. Shake me too, I have reputation of being the most boring poster on here, Velly is a sparkling wit in comparison. You have a limited sense of humour, that is no help to me as you keep taking me seriously, you just don't want to do that, it's bad for you.[/p][/quote]A reputation that you consistently live up to. Yes you are slightly more tedious and boring than val. Hinge and bracket![/p][/quote]If supporting your team through thick and thin makes one tedious then count me in ![/p][/quote]Your in... Naturally;-) I'm not getting dragged into a b1tch fight, let's have a decent debate, I dare any 1[/p][/quote]I feel accepted now .......... IMO Saints are playing the best football I've ever witnessed , if we keep improving year on year at the same rate we'll be out of the sight of any other team on the planet ! .......... Fantasy I know ..... But I do know my history ......... Nice to speak again GHK , You do make me smile .[/p][/quote]And you slug, always enjoyed our banter. Honest opinion, yes mopo has taken us to another level, the players I think look up to him as he can practice what he preaches being an Argie international. Some players have thrived like lallana, jwp, Rodrigues which is good. I personally like Ramirez and cork, I don't know why they've struggled a bit but do feel they are worth more game time. Shocked that fox had been given more! Our league position fits our size and facilities. To progress will take a lot of improvement from the size of stadium, support from fans and size/ quality of squad. Big question can all step up to the plate? I say no as football doesn't mean as much to us down south as it does up north.[/p][/quote]Can't argue really ..... Just to say , i'm witnessing the youngsters wanting to wear Saints shirts and wishing they were Rickie Lambert ....... It is happening I assure you . slugger
  • Score: 0

9:26pm Mon 13 Jan 14

ghk230473 says...

slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed.

Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening.

I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.
Couple of points
* name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy.
* with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water
Can't recall Ted Bates mentioning the Academy much. I must be different because I enjoyed Saturdays game between two teams with a plan, my team won because they were better on the day. I have seen us play a lot better and still lost, I was happier this week. Shake me too, I have reputation of being the most boring poster on here, Velly is a sparkling wit in comparison. You have a limited sense of humour, that is no help to me as you keep taking me seriously, you just don't want to do that, it's bad for you.
A reputation that you consistently live up to. Yes you are slightly more tedious and boring than val. Hinge and bracket!
If supporting your team through thick and thin makes one tedious then count me in !
Your in... Naturally;-)
I'm not getting dragged into a b1tch fight, let's have a decent debate, I dare any 1
I feel accepted now .......... IMO Saints are playing the best football I've ever witnessed , if we keep improving year on year at the same rate we'll be out of the sight of any other team on the planet ! .......... Fantasy I know ..... But I do know my history ......... Nice to speak again GHK , You do make me smile .
And you slug, always enjoyed our banter. Honest opinion, yes mopo has taken us to another level, the players I think look up to him as he can practice what he preaches being an Argie international. Some players have thrived like lallana, jwp, Rodrigues which is good. I personally like Ramirez and cork, I don't know why they've struggled a bit but do feel they are worth more game time. Shocked that fox had been given more!
Our league position fits our size and facilities. To progress will take a lot of improvement from the size of stadium, support from fans and size/ quality of squad. Big question can all step up to the plate? I say no as football doesn't mean as much to us down south as it does up north.
Can't argue really ..... Just to say , i'm witnessing the youngsters wanting to wear Saints shirts and wishing they were Rickie Lambert ....... It is happening I assure you .
I've got 2 nippers in the Sholing youth teams too
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed. Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening. I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.[/p][/quote]Couple of points * name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy. * with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water[/p][/quote]Can't recall Ted Bates mentioning the Academy much. I must be different because I enjoyed Saturdays game between two teams with a plan, my team won because they were better on the day. I have seen us play a lot better and still lost, I was happier this week. Shake me too, I have reputation of being the most boring poster on here, Velly is a sparkling wit in comparison. You have a limited sense of humour, that is no help to me as you keep taking me seriously, you just don't want to do that, it's bad for you.[/p][/quote]A reputation that you consistently live up to. Yes you are slightly more tedious and boring than val. Hinge and bracket![/p][/quote]If supporting your team through thick and thin makes one tedious then count me in ![/p][/quote]Your in... Naturally;-) I'm not getting dragged into a b1tch fight, let's have a decent debate, I dare any 1[/p][/quote]I feel accepted now .......... IMO Saints are playing the best football I've ever witnessed , if we keep improving year on year at the same rate we'll be out of the sight of any other team on the planet ! .......... Fantasy I know ..... But I do know my history ......... Nice to speak again GHK , You do make me smile .[/p][/quote]And you slug, always enjoyed our banter. Honest opinion, yes mopo has taken us to another level, the players I think look up to him as he can practice what he preaches being an Argie international. Some players have thrived like lallana, jwp, Rodrigues which is good. I personally like Ramirez and cork, I don't know why they've struggled a bit but do feel they are worth more game time. Shocked that fox had been given more! Our league position fits our size and facilities. To progress will take a lot of improvement from the size of stadium, support from fans and size/ quality of squad. Big question can all step up to the plate? I say no as football doesn't mean as much to us down south as it does up north.[/p][/quote]Can't argue really ..... Just to say , i'm witnessing the youngsters wanting to wear Saints shirts and wishing they were Rickie Lambert ....... It is happening I assure you .[/p][/quote]I've got 2 nippers in the Sholing youth teams too ghk230473
  • Score: 0

9:30pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Baddesley Bill says...

ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed.

Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening.

I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.
Couple of points
* name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy.
* with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water
Can't recall Ted Bates mentioning the Academy much. I must be different because I enjoyed Saturdays game between two teams with a plan, my team won because they were better on the day. I have seen us play a lot better and still lost, I was happier this week. Shake me too, I have reputation of being the most boring poster on here, Velly is a sparkling wit in comparison. You have a limited sense of humour, that is no help to me as you keep taking me seriously, you just don't want to do that, it's bad for you.
A reputation that you consistently live up to. Yes you are slightly more tedious and boring than val. Hinge and bracket!
If supporting your team through thick and thin makes one tedious then count me in !
Your in... Naturally;-)
I'm not getting dragged into a b1tch fight, let's have a decent debate, I dare any 1
I feel accepted now .......... IMO Saints are playing the best football I've ever witnessed , if we keep improving year on year at the same rate we'll be out of the sight of any other team on the planet ! .......... Fantasy I know ..... But I do know my history ......... Nice to speak again GHK , You do make me smile .
And you slug, always enjoyed our banter. Honest opinion, yes mopo has taken us to another level, the players I think look up to him as he can practice what he preaches being an Argie international. Some players have thrived like lallana, jwp, Rodrigues which is good. I personally like Ramirez and cork, I don't know why they've struggled a bit but do feel they are worth more game time. Shocked that fox had been given more!
Our league position fits our size and facilities. To progress will take a lot of improvement from the size of stadium, support from fans and size/ quality of squad. Big question can all step up to the plate? I say no as football doesn't mean as much to us down south as it does up north.
Fair point with the north/south divide comment. But it does not end there....huge fan bases are not made overnight. As long as we can keep on providing top flight entertainment, then the fan base will gradually increase. A trophy along the way would definitely help....what with our league position right now...I think we should go all out for the FA Cup this season.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed. Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening. I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.[/p][/quote]Couple of points * name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy. * with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water[/p][/quote]Can't recall Ted Bates mentioning the Academy much. I must be different because I enjoyed Saturdays game between two teams with a plan, my team won because they were better on the day. I have seen us play a lot better and still lost, I was happier this week. Shake me too, I have reputation of being the most boring poster on here, Velly is a sparkling wit in comparison. You have a limited sense of humour, that is no help to me as you keep taking me seriously, you just don't want to do that, it's bad for you.[/p][/quote]A reputation that you consistently live up to. Yes you are slightly more tedious and boring than val. Hinge and bracket![/p][/quote]If supporting your team through thick and thin makes one tedious then count me in ![/p][/quote]Your in... Naturally;-) I'm not getting dragged into a b1tch fight, let's have a decent debate, I dare any 1[/p][/quote]I feel accepted now .......... IMO Saints are playing the best football I've ever witnessed , if we keep improving year on year at the same rate we'll be out of the sight of any other team on the planet ! .......... Fantasy I know ..... But I do know my history ......... Nice to speak again GHK , You do make me smile .[/p][/quote]And you slug, always enjoyed our banter. Honest opinion, yes mopo has taken us to another level, the players I think look up to him as he can practice what he preaches being an Argie international. Some players have thrived like lallana, jwp, Rodrigues which is good. I personally like Ramirez and cork, I don't know why they've struggled a bit but do feel they are worth more game time. Shocked that fox had been given more! Our league position fits our size and facilities. To progress will take a lot of improvement from the size of stadium, support from fans and size/ quality of squad. Big question can all step up to the plate? I say no as football doesn't mean as much to us down south as it does up north.[/p][/quote]Fair point with the north/south divide comment. But it does not end there....huge fan bases are not made overnight. As long as we can keep on providing top flight entertainment, then the fan base will gradually increase. A trophy along the way would definitely help....what with our league position right now...I think we should go all out for the FA Cup this season. Baddesley Bill
  • Score: 0

9:31pm Mon 13 Jan 14

slugger says...

ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed.

Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening.

I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.
Couple of points
* name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy.
* with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water
Can't recall Ted Bates mentioning the Academy much. I must be different because I enjoyed Saturdays game between two teams with a plan, my team won because they were better on the day. I have seen us play a lot better and still lost, I was happier this week. Shake me too, I have reputation of being the most boring poster on here, Velly is a sparkling wit in comparison. You have a limited sense of humour, that is no help to me as you keep taking me seriously, you just don't want to do that, it's bad for you.
A reputation that you consistently live up to. Yes you are slightly more tedious and boring than val. Hinge and bracket!
If supporting your team through thick and thin makes one tedious then count me in !
Your in... Naturally;-)
I'm not getting dragged into a b1tch fight, let's have a decent debate, I dare any 1
I feel accepted now .......... IMO Saints are playing the best football I've ever witnessed , if we keep improving year on year at the same rate we'll be out of the sight of any other team on the planet ! .......... Fantasy I know ..... But I do know my history ......... Nice to speak again GHK , You do make me smile .
And you slug, always enjoyed our banter. Honest opinion, yes mopo has taken us to another level, the players I think look up to him as he can practice what he preaches being an Argie international. Some players have thrived like lallana, jwp, Rodrigues which is good. I personally like Ramirez and cork, I don't know why they've struggled a bit but do feel they are worth more game time. Shocked that fox had been given more!
Our league position fits our size and facilities. To progress will take a lot of improvement from the size of stadium, support from fans and size/ quality of squad. Big question can all step up to the plate? I say no as football doesn't mean as much to us down south as it does up north.
Can't argue really ..... Just to say , i'm witnessing the youngsters wanting to wear Saints shirts and wishing they were Rickie Lambert ....... It is happening I assure you .
I've got 2 nippers in the Sholing youth teams too
Cool
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed. Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening. I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.[/p][/quote]Couple of points * name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy. * with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water[/p][/quote]Can't recall Ted Bates mentioning the Academy much. I must be different because I enjoyed Saturdays game between two teams with a plan, my team won because they were better on the day. I have seen us play a lot better and still lost, I was happier this week. Shake me too, I have reputation of being the most boring poster on here, Velly is a sparkling wit in comparison. You have a limited sense of humour, that is no help to me as you keep taking me seriously, you just don't want to do that, it's bad for you.[/p][/quote]A reputation that you consistently live up to. Yes you are slightly more tedious and boring than val. Hinge and bracket![/p][/quote]If supporting your team through thick and thin makes one tedious then count me in ![/p][/quote]Your in... Naturally;-) I'm not getting dragged into a b1tch fight, let's have a decent debate, I dare any 1[/p][/quote]I feel accepted now .......... IMO Saints are playing the best football I've ever witnessed , if we keep improving year on year at the same rate we'll be out of the sight of any other team on the planet ! .......... Fantasy I know ..... But I do know my history ......... Nice to speak again GHK , You do make me smile .[/p][/quote]And you slug, always enjoyed our banter. Honest opinion, yes mopo has taken us to another level, the players I think look up to him as he can practice what he preaches being an Argie international. Some players have thrived like lallana, jwp, Rodrigues which is good. I personally like Ramirez and cork, I don't know why they've struggled a bit but do feel they are worth more game time. Shocked that fox had been given more! Our league position fits our size and facilities. To progress will take a lot of improvement from the size of stadium, support from fans and size/ quality of squad. Big question can all step up to the plate? I say no as football doesn't mean as much to us down south as it does up north.[/p][/quote]Can't argue really ..... Just to say , i'm witnessing the youngsters wanting to wear Saints shirts and wishing they were Rickie Lambert ....... It is happening I assure you .[/p][/quote]I've got 2 nippers in the Sholing youth teams too[/p][/quote]Cool slugger
  • Score: 0

9:40pm Mon 13 Jan 14

ghk230473 says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed.

Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening.

I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.
Couple of points
* name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy.
* with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water
Can't recall Ted Bates mentioning the Academy much. I must be different because I enjoyed Saturdays game between two teams with a plan, my team won because they were better on the day. I have seen us play a lot better and still lost, I was happier this week. Shake me too, I have reputation of being the most boring poster on here, Velly is a sparkling wit in comparison. You have a limited sense of humour, that is no help to me as you keep taking me seriously, you just don't want to do that, it's bad for you.
A reputation that you consistently live up to. Yes you are slightly more tedious and boring than val. Hinge and bracket!
If supporting your team through thick and thin makes one tedious then count me in !
Your in... Naturally;-)
I'm not getting dragged into a b1tch fight, let's have a decent debate, I dare any 1
I feel accepted now .......... IMO Saints are playing the best football I've ever witnessed , if we keep improving year on year at the same rate we'll be out of the sight of any other team on the planet ! .......... Fantasy I know ..... But I do know my history ......... Nice to speak again GHK , You do make me smile .
And you slug, always enjoyed our banter. Honest opinion, yes mopo has taken us to another level, the players I think look up to him as he can practice what he preaches being an Argie international. Some players have thrived like lallana, jwp, Rodrigues which is good. I personally like Ramirez and cork, I don't know why they've struggled a bit but do feel they are worth more game time. Shocked that fox had been given more!
Our league position fits our size and facilities. To progress will take a lot of improvement from the size of stadium, support from fans and size/ quality of squad. Big question can all step up to the plate? I say no as football doesn't mean as much to us down south as it does up north.
Fair point with the north/south divide comment. But it does not end there....huge fan bases are not made overnight. As long as we can keep on providing top flight entertainment, then the fan base will gradually increase. A trophy along the way would definitely help....what with our league position right now...I think we should go all out for the FA Cup this season.
Need help from club with fan base..repeating myself here but Liverpool had 44,000 against lesser opposition in cup game same as us compared with our 15,000!
Kids go free, no brainer.. They are the future
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed. Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening. I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.[/p][/quote]Couple of points * name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy. * with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water[/p][/quote]Can't recall Ted Bates mentioning the Academy much. I must be different because I enjoyed Saturdays game between two teams with a plan, my team won because they were better on the day. I have seen us play a lot better and still lost, I was happier this week. Shake me too, I have reputation of being the most boring poster on here, Velly is a sparkling wit in comparison. You have a limited sense of humour, that is no help to me as you keep taking me seriously, you just don't want to do that, it's bad for you.[/p][/quote]A reputation that you consistently live up to. Yes you are slightly more tedious and boring than val. Hinge and bracket![/p][/quote]If supporting your team through thick and thin makes one tedious then count me in ![/p][/quote]Your in... Naturally;-) I'm not getting dragged into a b1tch fight, let's have a decent debate, I dare any 1[/p][/quote]I feel accepted now .......... IMO Saints are playing the best football I've ever witnessed , if we keep improving year on year at the same rate we'll be out of the sight of any other team on the planet ! .......... Fantasy I know ..... But I do know my history ......... Nice to speak again GHK , You do make me smile .[/p][/quote]And you slug, always enjoyed our banter. Honest opinion, yes mopo has taken us to another level, the players I think look up to him as he can practice what he preaches being an Argie international. Some players have thrived like lallana, jwp, Rodrigues which is good. I personally like Ramirez and cork, I don't know why they've struggled a bit but do feel they are worth more game time. Shocked that fox had been given more! Our league position fits our size and facilities. To progress will take a lot of improvement from the size of stadium, support from fans and size/ quality of squad. Big question can all step up to the plate? I say no as football doesn't mean as much to us down south as it does up north.[/p][/quote]Fair point with the north/south divide comment. But it does not end there....huge fan bases are not made overnight. As long as we can keep on providing top flight entertainment, then the fan base will gradually increase. A trophy along the way would definitely help....what with our league position right now...I think we should go all out for the FA Cup this season.[/p][/quote]Need help from club with fan base..repeating myself here but Liverpool had 44,000 against lesser opposition in cup game same as us compared with our 15,000! Kids go free, no brainer.. They are the future ghk230473
  • Score: 2

9:41pm Mon 13 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
More boring news Arsenal 2 up. Villa handicapped by Nathan Baker being carried off after the ball smashed into his face and was carried off
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
;-)
With you there.
Everyone just woke up again Benteke got one back. 75 minutes.
Manure U21's beat ours 2 1 Rowe got our goal.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: More boring news Arsenal 2 up. Villa handicapped by Nathan Baker being carried off after the ball smashed into his face and was carried off[/p][/quote]Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ;-)[/p][/quote]With you there.[/p][/quote]Everyone just woke up again Benteke got one back. 75 minutes. Manure U21's beat ours 2 1 Rowe got our goal. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -3

9:49pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Emsworthsaint says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
In my opinion MP has done better than Nigel Adkins in producing better attacking football and getting more out of the players. Tactically I sometimes question his team selections and substitutions but generally he is doing good. One thing he now needs is to do interviews in English as I understand that he does speak it quite well.
Also hope that he & NC sign a couple of quality players this Jan window to push us back up into the top six by end of the season.
I do not get the 'must speak English' ? Why ? What are you not getting from the clear translation ? Look at Pardew having to apologise for his rant. The managers talking comes by the way the team is playing, after all, they all say the same stuff when they loose or when they win. Get over it.
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: In my opinion MP has done better than Nigel Adkins in producing better attacking football and getting more out of the players. Tactically I sometimes question his team selections and substitutions but generally he is doing good. One thing he now needs is to do interviews in English as I understand that he does speak it quite well. Also hope that he & NC sign a couple of quality players this Jan window to push us back up into the top six by end of the season.[/p][/quote]I do not get the 'must speak English' ? Why ? What are you not getting from the clear translation ? Look at Pardew having to apologise for his rant. The managers talking comes by the way the team is playing, after all, they all say the same stuff when they loose or when they win. Get over it. Emsworthsaint
  • Score: 4

9:54pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Clever Dick says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Chriops wrote:
Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right.

For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well.

Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected.

For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up.

Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results.
Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality.

Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit.

Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club.

If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.
The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable….

..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!…

..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.
I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.
Excuses….they earn less too

.. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside)

...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times.

Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game..

Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...
Our average attendance this season =29881. That is the twelfth highest and higher than Norwich's Whatever makes you think they earn less in Newcastle I really don't know. Would be very interesting to hear your reasoning for that given that big nationwide employers like the banks, civil servants, council workers, telecomms companies etc etc all have national wage rates. And apart from that housing costs up north are considerably cheaper .
Those figures aren't bad, but I worry more that we don't get better support for the Cup games, I know it's extra cash again and the ticketing facilities are still Division 1 class, but surely you could make more of an effort?
Well you have me there. I don't go to cup games. It's a question of finance. I'm retired and to be honest I'm pushing the boat out paying for a season ticket. In a lot of fans minds that doesn't make me a proper fan. That doesn't worry me, they can think what they like. I also have to travel and every game costs me around £60 to £65. As you said earlier, we also have to eat.
As I said earlier, preaching to the converted, I am sure if good fortune came your way, the first thing you would do is get a Cup ticket or two to follow the team, it emphasises what I said, there is no lack of desire, just a need to prioritise the cash flow. The ones that are making the fuss are probably loaded or starving!
Yeah. I daresay I'll be able to find a few coppers for the semi and the final though. :-)
Senial too... You're repeating yourself!! ;-) (joke)
Well when you get past 100 the fingers shake a bit!
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chriops[/bold] wrote: Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right. For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well. Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected. For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up. Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results. Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality. Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit. Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club. If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.[/p][/quote]The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable…. ..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!… ..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.[/p][/quote]Excuses….they earn less too .. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside) ...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times. Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game.. Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...[/p][/quote]Our average attendance this season =29881. That is the twelfth highest and higher than Norwich's Whatever makes you think they earn less in Newcastle I really don't know. Would be very interesting to hear your reasoning for that given that big nationwide employers like the banks, civil servants, council workers, telecomms companies etc etc all have national wage rates. And apart from that housing costs up north are considerably cheaper .[/p][/quote]Those figures aren't bad, but I worry more that we don't get better support for the Cup games, I know it's extra cash again and the ticketing facilities are still Division 1 class, but surely you could make more of an effort?[/p][/quote]Well you have me there. I don't go to cup games. It's a question of finance. I'm retired and to be honest I'm pushing the boat out paying for a season ticket. In a lot of fans minds that doesn't make me a proper fan. That doesn't worry me, they can think what they like. I also have to travel and every game costs me around £60 to £65. As you said earlier, we also have to eat.[/p][/quote]As I said earlier, preaching to the converted, I am sure if good fortune came your way, the first thing you would do is get a Cup ticket or two to follow the team, it emphasises what I said, there is no lack of desire, just a need to prioritise the cash flow. The ones that are making the fuss are probably loaded or starving![/p][/quote]Yeah. I daresay I'll be able to find a few coppers for the semi and the final though. :-)[/p][/quote]Senial too... You're repeating yourself!! ;-) (joke)[/p][/quote]Well when you get past 100 the fingers shake a bit! Clever Dick
  • Score: 2

9:55pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

So, that's decided then; most of us were saddened by NA's departure, worried by MP's appointment and wrong to have questioned the Don (who made the right decision for SFC - again).

One year later, MP's doing a fine job, we're moving in the right direction and GHK's promised to pop in to The JT after the Liverpool game, buy all the regulars on here a beer and kick start a debate about how to get more people through the gates.

Happy days!
So, that's decided then; most of us were saddened by NA's departure, worried by MP's appointment and wrong to have questioned the Don (who made the right decision for SFC - again). One year later, MP's doing a fine job, we're moving in the right direction and GHK's promised to pop in to The JT after the Liverpool game, buy all the regulars on here a beer and kick start a debate about how to get more people through the gates. Happy days! Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 1

9:56pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Chriops says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Chriops wrote:
Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right.

For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well.

Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected.

For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up.

Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results.
Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality.

Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit.

Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club.

If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.
The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable….

..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!…

..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.
I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.
Excuses….they earn less too

.. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside)

...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times.

Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game..

Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...
A quick question, how many members of your own immediate family go to St. Marys with you each home game, I can say that 100% of my household go to every home game.
I go to every home game with my disabled wife. Unfortunately my teenage daughter, despite years of badgering refuses to even remotely have any time for football, or the Saints.

It's fair to say I have failed in my duties as a father.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chriops[/bold] wrote: Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right. For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well. Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected. For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up. Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results. Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality. Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit. Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club. If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.[/p][/quote]The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable…. ..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!… ..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.[/p][/quote]Excuses….they earn less too .. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside) ...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times. Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game.. Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...[/p][/quote]A quick question, how many members of your own immediate family go to St. Marys with you each home game, I can say that 100% of my household go to every home game.[/p][/quote]I go to every home game with my disabled wife. Unfortunately my teenage daughter, despite years of badgering refuses to even remotely have any time for football, or the Saints. It's fair to say I have failed in my duties as a father. Chriops
  • Score: 3

9:59pm Mon 13 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Chriops wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Chriops wrote:
Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right.

For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well.

Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected.

For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up.

Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results.
Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality.

Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit.

Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club.

If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.
The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable….

..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!…

..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.
I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.
Excuses….they earn less too

.. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside)

...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times.

Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game..

Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...
A quick question, how many members of your own immediate family go to St. Marys with you each home game, I can say that 100% of my household go to every home game.
I go to every home game with my disabled wife. Unfortunately my teenage daughter, despite years of badgering refuses to even remotely have any time for football, or the Saints.

It's fair to say I have failed in my duties as a father.
Unless she has a perchance for a blue and white scarf and loves the sound of a bell you haven't failed entirely.
[quote][p][bold]Chriops[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chriops[/bold] wrote: Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right. For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well. Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected. For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up. Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results. Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality. Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit. Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club. If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.[/p][/quote]The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable…. ..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!… ..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.[/p][/quote]Excuses….they earn less too .. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside) ...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times. Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game.. Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...[/p][/quote]A quick question, how many members of your own immediate family go to St. Marys with you each home game, I can say that 100% of my household go to every home game.[/p][/quote]I go to every home game with my disabled wife. Unfortunately my teenage daughter, despite years of badgering refuses to even remotely have any time for football, or the Saints. It's fair to say I have failed in my duties as a father.[/p][/quote]Unless she has a perchance for a blue and white scarf and loves the sound of a bell you haven't failed entirely. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -2

10:01pm Mon 13 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

2 1 Arsenal who just scraped through, looking shaky after the Villa goal. Oxo was back though.
2 1 Arsenal who just scraped through, looking shaky after the Villa goal. Oxo was back though. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -5

10:05pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Buddy SFC says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed.

Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening.

I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.
Couple of points
* name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy.
* with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water
Harsh !
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed. Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening. I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.[/p][/quote]Couple of points * name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy. * with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water[/p][/quote]Harsh ! Buddy SFC
  • Score: -3

10:07pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Chriops wrote:
Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right.

For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well.

Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected.

For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up.

Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results.
Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality.

Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit.

Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club.

If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.
The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable….

..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!…

..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.
I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.
Excuses….they earn less too

.. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside)

...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times.

Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game..

Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...
Our average attendance this season =29881. That is the twelfth highest and higher than Norwich's Whatever makes you think they earn less in Newcastle I really don't know. Would be very interesting to hear your reasoning for that given that big nationwide employers like the banks, civil servants, council workers, telecomms companies etc etc all have national wage rates. And apart from that housing costs up north are considerably cheaper .
I've had an office in Newcastle for about 14 months and my experience of the area is that prices and wages are definitely lower than here and, as you say, so are living costs. Good restaurants and bars can be really good value which is probably why they're out every bloody night!
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chriops[/bold] wrote: Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right. For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well. Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected. For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up. Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results. Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality. Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit. Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club. If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.[/p][/quote]The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable…. ..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!… ..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.[/p][/quote]Excuses….they earn less too .. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside) ...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times. Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game.. Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...[/p][/quote]Our average attendance this season =29881. That is the twelfth highest and higher than Norwich's Whatever makes you think they earn less in Newcastle I really don't know. Would be very interesting to hear your reasoning for that given that big nationwide employers like the banks, civil servants, council workers, telecomms companies etc etc all have national wage rates. And apart from that housing costs up north are considerably cheaper .[/p][/quote]I've had an office in Newcastle for about 14 months and my experience of the area is that prices and wages are definitely lower than here and, as you say, so are living costs. Good restaurants and bars can be really good value which is probably why they're out every bloody night! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 2

10:09pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Velleity says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed.

Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening.

I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.
Couple of points
* name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy.
* with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water
Wow, you really do have it bad for me. If you can read, take a look back at what I actually said abou the WBA game. The comment was VERY clearly stated to be 30 seconds in (when they had kicked off and we'd chased them so much they'd panicked and played it into touch). The rest of it is just your usual rant against me. Nothing new to say, so you repeat yourself ad infinitum. Interesting that I don't think I've seen you on a thread where I've been involved without a little dig from you at me. You need to stop stalking me.

I do go with the flow - I back the management to do a good job. It's called "support". If you want me to call for the manager's head in your style, You're fighting a losing battle.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed. Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening. I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.[/p][/quote]Couple of points * name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy. * with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water[/p][/quote]Wow, you really do have it bad for me. If you can read, take a look back at what I actually said abou the WBA game. The comment was VERY clearly stated to be 30 seconds in (when they had kicked off and we'd chased them so much they'd panicked and played it into touch). The rest of it is just your usual rant against me. Nothing new to say, so you repeat yourself ad infinitum. Interesting that I don't think I've seen you on a thread where I've been involved without a little dig from you at me. You need to stop stalking me. I do go with the flow - I back the management to do a good job. It's called "support". If you want me to call for the manager's head in your style, You're fighting a losing battle. Velleity
  • Score: 0

10:12pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Wozzie says...

Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Chriops wrote:
Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right.

For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well.

Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected.

For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up.

Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results.
Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality.

Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit.

Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club.

If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.
The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable….

..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!…

..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.
I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.
Excuses….they earn less too

.. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside)

...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times.

Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game..

Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...
Our average attendance this season =29881. That is the twelfth highest and higher than Norwich's Whatever makes you think they earn less in Newcastle I really don't know. Would be very interesting to hear your reasoning for that given that big nationwide employers like the banks, civil servants, council workers, telecomms companies etc etc all have national wage rates. And apart from that housing costs up north are considerably cheaper .
Just go on holiday the resorts are full of Geordies they are not poor!!
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chriops[/bold] wrote: Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right. For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well. Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected. For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up. Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results. Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality. Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit. Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club. If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.[/p][/quote]The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable…. ..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!… ..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.[/p][/quote]Excuses….they earn less too .. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside) ...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times. Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game.. Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...[/p][/quote]Our average attendance this season =29881. That is the twelfth highest and higher than Norwich's Whatever makes you think they earn less in Newcastle I really don't know. Would be very interesting to hear your reasoning for that given that big nationwide employers like the banks, civil servants, council workers, telecomms companies etc etc all have national wage rates. And apart from that housing costs up north are considerably cheaper .[/p][/quote]Just go on holiday the resorts are full of Geordies they are not poor!! Wozzie
  • Score: 2

10:18pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Baddesley Bill says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed.

Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening.

I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.
Couple of points
* name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy.
* with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water
Can't recall Ted Bates mentioning the Academy much. I must be different because I enjoyed Saturdays game between two teams with a plan, my team won because they were better on the day. I have seen us play a lot better and still lost, I was happier this week. Shake me too, I have reputation of being the most boring poster on here, Velly is a sparkling wit in comparison. You have a limited sense of humour, that is no help to me as you keep taking me seriously, you just don't want to do that, it's bad for you.
A reputation that you consistently live up to. Yes you are slightly more tedious and boring than val. Hinge and bracket!
If supporting your team through thick and thin makes one tedious then count me in !
Your in... Naturally;-)
I'm not getting dragged into a b1tch fight, let's have a decent debate, I dare any 1
I feel accepted now .......... IMO Saints are playing the best football I've ever witnessed , if we keep improving year on year at the same rate we'll be out of the sight of any other team on the planet ! .......... Fantasy I know ..... But I do know my history ......... Nice to speak again GHK , You do make me smile .
And you slug, always enjoyed our banter. Honest opinion, yes mopo has taken us to another level, the players I think look up to him as he can practice what he preaches being an Argie international. Some players have thrived like lallana, jwp, Rodrigues which is good. I personally like Ramirez and cork, I don't know why they've struggled a bit but do feel they are worth more game time. Shocked that fox had been given more!
Our league position fits our size and facilities. To progress will take a lot of improvement from the size of stadium, support from fans and size/ quality of squad. Big question can all step up to the plate? I say no as football doesn't mean as much to us down south as it does up north.
Fair point with the north/south divide comment. But it does not end there....huge fan bases are not made overnight. As long as we can keep on providing top flight entertainment, then the fan base will gradually increase. A trophy along the way would definitely help....what with our league position right now...I think we should go all out for the FA Cup this season.
Need help from club with fan base..repeating myself here but Liverpool had 44,000 against lesser opposition in cup game same as us compared with our 15,000!
Kids go free, no brainer.. They are the future
Can't argue with that tbh. I sometimes feel that we (as supporters) often demand more for less....but the "kids go free" ethic would help fill the stadium for the "Saints v Yeovil" type of game without doubt.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: I'm perfectly happy. When NA was sacked I heard it in the snow on Southampton Common and I felt sick; it ruined the day and I thought we were doomed. Then I watched as the way we play was transformed and fell for the new style. I also fell for the results. Yes, there's been a hiccup over the past few weeks but the team's been crocked. Not MP's fault - we just need a bit more strength in depth. I LOVE the fact that he loves the academy and I suspect that'll always be the first port of call for team strengthening. I was watching as we attached WBA in the first thirty seconds of the game on Saturday, turned to Velleity Jr and we both rejoiced in the experience of watching the most entertaining football style I think I've ever seen.[/p][/quote]Couple of points * name any previous manager who hasn't waxed lyrical about our accademy. * with the greatest respects Saturdays game was crap... Much needed 3 points but was there much to rejoice? Painfully scanned your posts for the past 2 years, can honestly say you've given me nothing to contemplate over, any 1 can sit on the fence and go with the flow, I'd like to shake you and get an opinion from you. Dull as ditch water[/p][/quote]Can't recall Ted Bates mentioning the Academy much. I must be different because I enjoyed Saturdays game between two teams with a plan, my team won because they were better on the day. I have seen us play a lot better and still lost, I was happier this week. Shake me too, I have reputation of being the most boring poster on here, Velly is a sparkling wit in comparison. You have a limited sense of humour, that is no help to me as you keep taking me seriously, you just don't want to do that, it's bad for you.[/p][/quote]A reputation that you consistently live up to. Yes you are slightly more tedious and boring than val. Hinge and bracket![/p][/quote]If supporting your team through thick and thin makes one tedious then count me in ![/p][/quote]Your in... Naturally;-) I'm not getting dragged into a b1tch fight, let's have a decent debate, I dare any 1[/p][/quote]I feel accepted now .......... IMO Saints are playing the best football I've ever witnessed , if we keep improving year on year at the same rate we'll be out of the sight of any other team on the planet ! .......... Fantasy I know ..... But I do know my history ......... Nice to speak again GHK , You do make me smile .[/p][/quote]And you slug, always enjoyed our banter. Honest opinion, yes mopo has taken us to another level, the players I think look up to him as he can practice what he preaches being an Argie international. Some players have thrived like lallana, jwp, Rodrigues which is good. I personally like Ramirez and cork, I don't know why they've struggled a bit but do feel they are worth more game time. Shocked that fox had been given more! Our league position fits our size and facilities. To progress will take a lot of improvement from the size of stadium, support from fans and size/ quality of squad. Big question can all step up to the plate? I say no as football doesn't mean as much to us down south as it does up north.[/p][/quote]Fair point with the north/south divide comment. But it does not end there....huge fan bases are not made overnight. As long as we can keep on providing top flight entertainment, then the fan base will gradually increase. A trophy along the way would definitely help....what with our league position right now...I think we should go all out for the FA Cup this season.[/p][/quote]Need help from club with fan base..repeating myself here but Liverpool had 44,000 against lesser opposition in cup game same as us compared with our 15,000! Kids go free, no brainer.. They are the future[/p][/quote]Can't argue with that tbh. I sometimes feel that we (as supporters) often demand more for less....but the "kids go free" ethic would help fill the stadium for the "Saints v Yeovil" type of game without doubt. Baddesley Bill
  • Score: 1

10:21pm Mon 13 Jan 14

miltonarcher says...

You know what, I don't care MP doesn't conduct the post match interviews in English. Let's face it, it's the same old boring questions and the same bland answers from most prem managers. At least our guy is a bit different. Oh, and he's a bl00dy good manager, thanks NC, you were right.
You know what, I don't care MP doesn't conduct the post match interviews in English. Let's face it, it's the same old boring questions and the same bland answers from most prem managers. At least our guy is a bit different. Oh, and he's a bl00dy good manager, thanks NC, you were right. miltonarcher
  • Score: 5

6:39am Tue 14 Jan 14

Tirau Dan says...

Opinion is just that.. it really doesn;t matter, nor does the media or pundit view. Nicola Cortese is in the driving seat with the support of the Liebher Family which gives us every cause for long term joy. Mauricio and his staff are like a breath of fresh air: always giving chances for our young lads to shine and support for those hard working stalwarts in the team. The man is first in and last out every day and has lifted this team to the top half of the premiership. The big thing for me is that you can see a massive improvement coming.. this is a work in progress heading for Europe. the club is not raping the cheque book every five minutes and running up tabs across the city it is building from within and building for a healthy future in top football.
I love the way Nicola lets Mauricio run the team.. he is outspoken and in control and likes to let us all know it. As for the interpretor.. that because he does not trust the press.. end of who cares good on him. Rating our managers is tough.. Loved Pards and Nigel... great blokes and good managers.. Poch seems a great bloke but he has vast international football experience as a player, friends in high places and a hard work ethic that is showing progress. Is he great? I think he is on the way to greatness.. Will he take us to the top.. I think so and it would be naive and negative for anyone to doubt it at this stage - we simply don't know - so support him all the way.... Loving the journey COYR....
Opinion is just that.. it really doesn;t matter, nor does the media or pundit view. Nicola Cortese is in the driving seat with the support of the Liebher Family which gives us every cause for long term joy. Mauricio and his staff are like a breath of fresh air: always giving chances for our young lads to shine and support for those hard working stalwarts in the team. The man is first in and last out every day and has lifted this team to the top half of the premiership. The big thing for me is that you can see a massive improvement coming.. this is a work in progress heading for Europe. the club is not raping the cheque book every five minutes and running up tabs across the city it is building from within and building for a healthy future in top football. I love the way Nicola lets Mauricio run the team.. he is outspoken and in control and likes to let us all know it. As for the interpretor.. that because he does not trust the press.. end of who cares good on him. Rating our managers is tough.. Loved Pards and Nigel... great blokes and good managers.. Poch seems a great bloke but he has vast international football experience as a player, friends in high places and a hard work ethic that is showing progress. Is he great? I think he is on the way to greatness.. Will he take us to the top.. I think so and it would be naive and negative for anyone to doubt it at this stage - we simply don't know - so support him all the way.... Loving the journey COYR.... Tirau Dan
  • Score: 4

10:25am Tue 14 Jan 14

SFCOLDBOY says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Chriops wrote:
Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right.

For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well.

Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected.

For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up.

Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results.
Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality.

Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit.

Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club.

If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.
The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable….

..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!…

..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.
Warrens,
I also feel the same as you ,but we aint in Newcastle or Sunderland there is no longer that grass root working class ethic, of------ we work all week then go to the game on Saturday.
I think they have still got it there.

We scream our guts out in the Chapel.
We've got passion.
We can't all fit into the areas you have described.
We are a small group of season ticket holders and we give it everything.
I suspect there are many enclaves around the arena that are like us.
It is impossible to get others around us in the same frame of mind because they have bought their tickets just for a day out at the football.
I think they feel embarrassed to cheer,but generally they enjoy our antics and singing.
Our end is generally full, but with a big percentage of bought tickets
It will have to be something like the Champions League to change the culture here now.
Not sure though that it would have a lasting effect,once eliminated.
Our crowd now,is in some strange way similar to the London supporters.
They support whatever team is wining,in our case if Saints don't win there aint nowhere else to go.
So stay at home and do the Knitting.
COYS
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chriops[/bold] wrote: Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right. For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well. Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected. For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up. Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results. Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality. Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit. Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club. If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.[/p][/quote]The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable…. ..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!… ..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.[/p][/quote]Warrens, I also feel the same as you ,but we aint in Newcastle or Sunderland there is no longer that grass root working class ethic, of------ we work all week then go to the game on Saturday. I think they have still got it there. We scream our guts out in the Chapel. We've got passion. We can't all fit into the areas you have described. We are a small group of season ticket holders and we give it everything. I suspect there are many enclaves around the arena that are like us. It is impossible to get others around us in the same frame of mind because they have bought their tickets just for a day out at the football. I think they feel embarrassed to cheer,but generally they enjoy our antics and singing. Our end is generally full, but with a big percentage of bought tickets It will have to be something like the Champions League to change the culture here now. Not sure though that it would have a lasting effect,once eliminated. Our crowd now,is in some strange way similar to the London supporters. They support whatever team is wining,in our case if Saints don't win there aint nowhere else to go. So stay at home and do the Knitting. COYS SFCOLDBOY
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11:55am Tue 14 Jan 14

marz194 says...

Poch is doing a good job and leading us towards our great future destined for us! We are not there yet though, there will be more twists and turns im sure of it! enjoy the ride to becoming one of the best clubs in england and europe every1!
Poch is doing a good job and leading us towards our great future destined for us! We are not there yet though, there will be more twists and turns im sure of it! enjoy the ride to becoming one of the best clubs in england and europe every1! marz194
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12:05pm Tue 14 Jan 14

george chivers says...

He's doing very well. But must improve his squad, when we 4 or 5 players out our strength in depth is not good enough to sustain us. Especially in defence and down the spine of the team.

I personally do not like the style of play. It's too narrow for me but I can live with the results. Great to see us in a top a 10 position. I would like to think we could end up 7th.

COYR STID
He's doing very well. But must improve his squad, when we 4 or 5 players out our strength in depth is not good enough to sustain us. Especially in defence and down the spine of the team. I personally do not like the style of play. It's too narrow for me but I can live with the results. Great to see us in a top a 10 position. I would like to think we could end up 7th. COYR STID george chivers
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2:40pm Wed 15 Jan 14

lowe esteem says...

Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Chriops wrote:
Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right.

For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well.

Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected.

For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up.

Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results.
Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality.

Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit.

Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club.

If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.
The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable….

..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!…

..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.
I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.
Excuses….they earn less too

.. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside)

...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times.

Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game..

Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...
Our average attendance this season =29881. That is the twelfth highest and higher than Norwich's Whatever makes you think they earn less in Newcastle I really don't know. Would be very interesting to hear your reasoning for that given that big nationwide employers like the banks, civil servants, council workers, telecomms companies etc etc all have national wage rates. And apart from that housing costs up north are considerably cheaper .
Wonder who made the decision to leave the 'central' Northam tickets originally allocated to Man City 'off sale' to get snapped up at short notice by Saints fans?

If the current regime were really that worried about 'bums on seats' they would have done the same against West Brom- and also been a bit more imaginative with the corporate seat sales-always our Achilles if you're looking for 'empties'.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chriops[/bold] wrote: Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right. For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well. Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected. For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up. Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results. Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality. Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit. Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club. If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.[/p][/quote]The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable…. ..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!… ..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.[/p][/quote]Excuses….they earn less too .. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside) ...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times. Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game.. Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...[/p][/quote]Our average attendance this season =29881. That is the twelfth highest and higher than Norwich's Whatever makes you think they earn less in Newcastle I really don't know. Would be very interesting to hear your reasoning for that given that big nationwide employers like the banks, civil servants, council workers, telecomms companies etc etc all have national wage rates. And apart from that housing costs up north are considerably cheaper .[/p][/quote]Wonder who made the decision to leave the 'central' Northam tickets originally allocated to Man City 'off sale' to get snapped up at short notice by Saints fans? If the current regime were really that worried about 'bums on seats' they would have done the same against West Brom- and also been a bit more imaginative with the corporate seat sales-always our Achilles if you're looking for 'empties'. lowe esteem
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2:42pm Wed 15 Jan 14

lowe esteem says...

lowe esteem wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Chriops wrote:
Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right.

For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well.

Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected.

For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up.

Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results.
Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality.

Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit.

Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club.

If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.
The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable….

..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!…

..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.
I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.
Excuses….they earn less too

.. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside)

...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times.

Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game..

Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...
Our average attendance this season =29881. That is the twelfth highest and higher than Norwich's Whatever makes you think they earn less in Newcastle I really don't know. Would be very interesting to hear your reasoning for that given that big nationwide employers like the banks, civil servants, council workers, telecomms companies etc etc all have national wage rates. And apart from that housing costs up north are considerably cheaper .
Wonder who made the decision to leave the 'central' Northam tickets originally allocated to Man City 'off sale' to get snapped up at short notice by Saints fans?

If the current regime were really that worried about 'bums on seats' they would have done the same against West Brom- and also been a bit more imaginative with the corporate seat sales-always our Achilles if you're looking for 'empties'.
Oh, meant to say: Mo Po 8/10 -1 point deducted for translator.
[quote][p][bold]lowe esteem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chriops[/bold] wrote: Like most people I was surprised by the sacking of Nigel Adkins. My wife was telling me that it was coming and was continuously questioning his decisions such as substitutions, and in particular his interviews. She frequently reminds me that I defended him, and she got it right. For me, the job that Poch has done has been superb. He's come in, changed the way that we play, and improved the players. Not only has he improved the team performances, but he has improved individuals as well. Our earlier form in the league, prior to injuries to our back five was highlighted by pundits as being by far the best defensive unit in the Premier league. Yes things slipped, but that was only to be expected. For me the highlight of the year is how we have integrated so many kids into our first team, and have many more waiting to step up. Huge credit has to go to Poch for the way in which he has brought these kids in almost seamlessly, and still managing to get results. Huge credit has to go equally to Nicola Cortese for the vision and know-how to make it a reality. Recently I've been looking at the way the U18s and U21's work. Players from lower age groups frequently step up for a week or two to the higher age group, or in case of the 21's to the first team. This allows these kids to become integrated in the group above them, until they are ready to step up permanently Even then, you see thse kids dropping back down to play the odd game to keep them fit and maintain that tea\m spirit. Overall, what we are all seeing is a club dedicated to producing players for the first team. Whether that has been implemented by Cortese, Les Reed, or Pochettino really is immaterial. What is important is that everyone understands their roles at the club, and work together for the good of the club. If I had one negative, it would be the relatively low gates. For us to really challenge the top four, we need a bigger stadium, but we won't get that all the time we aren't filling St Mary's week in and week out.[/p][/quote]The gates really do pi$$ me off….and there are always excuses, it's raining, it's xmas shopping, it's on sky…WHU, The Villa, Spurs, Sunnerlund in my opinion should only have better gates because of our capacity not because we do not fill it….28000 on saturday was unacceptable…. ..and do not blame money…NewK'astle is not exactly rolling in dough and 50k a week gates!… ..the fan base is there the overwhelming passion from too many is not…although the Northam and Kingsland corner do a great job.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that Newcastle charge considerably less. Coupled with the fact that it is a big town full of football fanatics. Sadly we are not quite up there with them on that score. I think 28000 is about what we can expect for a side like West Brom. Let's face it they are not exactly an attractive side to watch are they. The Baggies fans didn't fill their allocation either. Can't say I blame them if that's what they get to watch every week. Anyway I'm sure it will also be the case that as we progress every year, so the crowds will rise accordingly. And we don't need to increase too much for the capacity to be inadequate.[/p][/quote]Excuses….they earn less too .. plenty want access when all looks good, we need 5k more on our poor gates (ie 1000 outside) ...seriously stadium expansion rely's on a massive over demand Arsenal STILL have a 15 year waiting list…this way the capacity is covered in bad times. Although it is a library they still had 60.000 for a league cup game.. Unfortunately we are a split personality club and many of our supporters are not involved unless it is hyper important….30.000 in div 1 fantastic 28.000 in prem a blöödy disgrace...[/p][/quote]Our average attendance this season =29881. That is the twelfth highest and higher than Norwich's Whatever makes you think they earn less in Newcastle I really don't know. Would be very interesting to hear your reasoning for that given that big nationwide employers like the banks, civil servants, council workers, telecomms companies etc etc all have national wage rates. And apart from that housing costs up north are considerably cheaper .[/p][/quote]Wonder who made the decision to leave the 'central' Northam tickets originally allocated to Man City 'off sale' to get snapped up at short notice by Saints fans? If the current regime were really that worried about 'bums on seats' they would have done the same against West Brom- and also been a bit more imaginative with the corporate seat sales-always our Achilles if you're looking for 'empties'.[/p][/quote]Oh, meant to say: Mo Po 8/10 -1 point deducted for translator. lowe esteem
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