Manchester United again linked with January transfer window move for Luke Shaw

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MANCHESTER United have again been linked with a move for Saints starlet Luke Shaw.

David Moyes is apparently planning to make a £20m offer for the England under-21 left back.

It is not the first time Shaw, 18, has been linked with the reigning Premier League champions - and it almost certainly won’t be the last eiher. Saints boss Mauricio Pochettino has repeatedly insisted that Shaw won’t be leaving St Mary’s next month.

“It’s a very clear situation. The player wants to stay and the club is not willing to sell,” he said recently.

“What we also need to consider is he still only 18, still progressing, still learning how to be an experienced player so we need to be very calm about the situation.

“It is taking him some time to mature as a player and I think all these rumours and this speculation around him is not beneficial for him.

“It’s negative for him. “It’s also very clear what the project here at Southampton is – it’s a project of young players and Luke Shaw is a prime example of a young player who has come up through the ranks.

“What’s clear is that the player is not for sale and the player has stated he doesn’t want to go anywhere else.”

Moyes is also being again linked with a January transfer window move for his former Everton left back Leighton Baines.

One left back seemingly on his way out of Old Trafford is former Saints target Alexander Buttner.

The Dutchman looked set to move to St Mary’s in the summer of 2012, before joining United instead. Buttner has only made one Premier League start under Moyes, plus one more sub appearance.

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10:05am Tue 31 Dec 13

worried of n e hampshire says...

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10:14am Tue 31 Dec 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

To make life simple I think NC should ring Moyes just to make it crystal facking clear. If he then still made a bid it would show he was trying to unsettle the player.
To make life simple I think NC should ring Moyes just to make it crystal facking clear. If he then still made a bid it would show he was trying to unsettle the player. Seedhouse the Unrepentant

10:30am Tue 31 Dec 13

Saint. says...

So DE you are going to rehash the same quotes that MP has clearly said he is going no where every time Moyes or Jose want to try and unsettle a star to their own gains! Added to the fact that NC has clearly said many times that our young guns are no longer for sale but from now on for Southampton .F.C!

More importantly, why is NC not on the New Year honours list?

Come on boys lets get three points of Chelsea tomorrow!!!
So DE you are going to rehash the same quotes that MP has clearly said he is going no where every time Moyes or Jose want to try and unsettle a star to their own gains! Added to the fact that NC has clearly said many times that our young guns are no longer for sale but from now on for Southampton .F.C! More importantly, why is NC not on the New Year honours list? Come on boys lets get three points of Chelsea tomorrow!!! Saint.

11:04am Tue 31 Dec 13

georgetheseventh says...

That's 'unusual' they normally knock at Evertons door.
That's 'unusual' they normally knock at Evertons door. georgetheseventh

11:12am Tue 31 Dec 13

derek james says...

could always do a gary birtles, sell to manu for big money and buy him back for peanuts when he doesn't settle in
could always do a gary birtles, sell to manu for big money and buy him back for peanuts when he doesn't settle in derek james

11:17am Tue 31 Dec 13

Stroppy_gramps says...

Moving Shaw to manure would be awful for his career. He would just end up another benchwarmer for some foreign player
Moving Shaw to manure would be awful for his career. He would just end up another benchwarmer for some foreign player Stroppy_gramps

11:33am Tue 31 Dec 13

Saint. says...

Stroppy_gramps wrote:
Moving Shaw to manure would be awful for his career. He would just end up another benchwarmer for some foreign player
He is not going anywhere, but he would certainly not be a bench warmer
anywhere!
[quote][p][bold]Stroppy_gramps[/bold] wrote: Moving Shaw to manure would be awful for his career. He would just end up another benchwarmer for some foreign player[/p][/quote]He is not going anywhere, but he would certainly not be a bench warmer anywhere! Saint.

11:51am Tue 31 Dec 13

likewatchingbrazil says...

are we going to get this boring story every transfer window
are we going to get this boring story every transfer window likewatchingbrazil

11:51am Tue 31 Dec 13

johnlennonar says...

Just silly paper talk again :-D I heard Southampton are about to sign Ronaldo and Bale in a swap deal inc. Danny Fox and Da Prado
Just silly paper talk again :-D I heard Southampton are about to sign Ronaldo and Bale in a swap deal inc. Danny Fox and Da Prado johnlennonar

12:20pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Golden_Salamander says...

I can see the club's Shredder coming in for a lot of use this month.
.
Do the London media really, really think the Don is going to sell him and leave us with just Fox at LB ? I ask you do the London media have no brain cells or were they educated in poopey schools or something ?

The Don has said many times that he wants the club to be challenging for Europe in the next few years and that the young kids will NOT be sold.
I can see the club's Shredder coming in for a lot of use this month. . Do the London media really, really think the Don is going to sell him and leave us with just Fox at LB ? I ask you do the London media have no brain cells or were they educated in poopey schools or something ? The Don has said many times that he wants the club to be challenging for Europe in the next few years and that the young kids will NOT be sold. Golden_Salamander

12:24pm Tue 31 Dec 13

the south coast is ours says...

we need european football and expand our ground and hopefully fill it, to keep the so called big clubs at bay.
we need european football and expand our ground and hopefully fill it, to keep the so called big clubs at bay. the south coast is ours

12:27pm Tue 31 Dec 13

WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER. says...

thirty mill ,drive him up there ,defence sorted.
thirty mill ,drive him up there ,defence sorted. WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER.

12:52pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Rising_Son says...

the south coast is ours wrote:
we need european football and expand our ground and hopefully fill it, to keep the so called big clubs at bay.
I think just saying 'no' would be a lot more effective.
[quote][p][bold]the south coast is ours[/bold] wrote: we need european football and expand our ground and hopefully fill it, to keep the so called big clubs at bay.[/p][/quote]I think just saying 'no' would be a lot more effective. Rising_Son

1:01pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Folkestone Saint says...

You gotta laugh at Buttner, he used us to get attention from other clubs, so boo frikin hoo, mind you if he had come to us he would only have got game time when Shaw was out. As for manure I see it as a compliment to our academy that they are showing interest to yet another of it's products, but let me remind them "it is the Southampton academy" not the premier leagues so called big guns
You gotta laugh at Buttner, he used us to get attention from other clubs, so boo frikin hoo, mind you if he had come to us he would only have got game time when Shaw was out. As for manure I see it as a compliment to our academy that they are showing interest to yet another of it's products, but let me remind them "it is the Southampton academy" not the premier leagues so called big guns Folkestone Saint

1:47pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Costa Baz says...

Rising_Son wrote:
the south coast is ours wrote:
we need european football and expand our ground and hopefully fill it, to keep the so called big clubs at bay.
I think just saying 'no' would be a lot more effective.
It doesn't matter how often a club says "no". The player will always have the final say.
If Saints are unable to offer European football, in the near future, it would be more likely that our young players may want to move on. I just hope none of them have a clause in their contracts, allowing them to leave if we are offered a certain amount, or if we don't achieve European football within a certain time.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the south coast is ours[/bold] wrote: we need european football and expand our ground and hopefully fill it, to keep the so called big clubs at bay.[/p][/quote]I think just saying 'no' would be a lot more effective.[/p][/quote]It doesn't matter how often a club says "no". The player will always have the final say. If Saints are unable to offer European football, in the near future, it would be more likely that our young players may want to move on. I just hope none of them have a clause in their contracts, allowing them to leave if we are offered a certain amount, or if we don't achieve European football within a certain time. Costa Baz

2:07pm Tue 31 Dec 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Don't quote the spam for goodness sake, the Echo will remove it soon.
Don't quote the spam for goodness sake, the Echo will remove it soon. OSPREYSAINT

2:20pm Tue 31 Dec 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Don't quote the spam for goodness sake, the Echo will remove it soon.
.. and have done quickly, well done DE.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Don't quote the spam for goodness sake, the Echo will remove it soon.[/p][/quote].. and have done quickly, well done DE. OSPREYSAINT

2:28pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Rising_Son says...

Costa Baz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
the south coast is ours wrote:
we need european football and expand our ground and hopefully fill it, to keep the so called big clubs at bay.
I think just saying 'no' would be a lot more effective.
It doesn't matter how often a club says "no". The player will always have the final say.
If Saints are unable to offer European football, in the near future, it would be more likely that our young players may want to move on. I just hope none of them have a clause in their contracts, allowing them to leave if we are offered a certain amount, or if we don't achieve European football within a certain time.
A bigger ground and European football won't help much either if it's up to the players in the end. Ask Arsenal.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the south coast is ours[/bold] wrote: we need european football and expand our ground and hopefully fill it, to keep the so called big clubs at bay.[/p][/quote]I think just saying 'no' would be a lot more effective.[/p][/quote]It doesn't matter how often a club says "no". The player will always have the final say. If Saints are unable to offer European football, in the near future, it would be more likely that our young players may want to move on. I just hope none of them have a clause in their contracts, allowing them to leave if we are offered a certain amount, or if we don't achieve European football within a certain time.[/p][/quote]A bigger ground and European football won't help much either if it's up to the players in the end. Ask Arsenal. Rising_Son

2:42pm Tue 31 Dec 13

likewatchingbrazil says...

For sale;
Fox, Hoover, Lambert.
Wanted;
left back, center back, and a prolific striker
For sale; Fox, Hoover, Lambert. Wanted; left back, center back, and a prolific striker likewatchingbrazil

2:45pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Rising_Son says...

likewatchingbrazil wrote:
For sale;
Fox, Hoover, Lambert.
Wanted;
left back, center back, and a prolific striker
Why Lambert?
[quote][p][bold]likewatchingbrazil[/bold] wrote: For sale; Fox, Hoover, Lambert. Wanted; left back, center back, and a prolific striker[/p][/quote]Why Lambert? Rising_Son

2:48pm Tue 31 Dec 13

likewatchingbrazil says...

lazy and too slow, and can't seem to cope with our new style of play.
lazy and too slow, and can't seem to cope with our new style of play. likewatchingbrazil

2:51pm Tue 31 Dec 13

sarfhamton says...

Shaw is a boyhood Chelsea fan, he is more likely to go there
Shaw is a boyhood Chelsea fan, he is more likely to go there sarfhamton

3:07pm Tue 31 Dec 13

andoru says...

Would love to see Utd fail to get anyone they need in the transfer window, but if it comes to it I hope they succeed in getting Baines just to keep them away from Luke.

They can take Fox though.
Would love to see Utd fail to get anyone they need in the transfer window, but if it comes to it I hope they succeed in getting Baines just to keep them away from Luke. They can take Fox though. andoru

3:08pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Rising_Son says...

likewatchingbrazil wrote:
lazy and too slow, and can't seem to cope with our new style of play.
Do you think we should also get rid of Pochettino for being stupid enough to pick him (Lambert) week after week then?
[quote][p][bold]likewatchingbrazil[/bold] wrote: lazy and too slow, and can't seem to cope with our new style of play.[/p][/quote]Do you think we should also get rid of Pochettino for being stupid enough to pick him (Lambert) week after week then? Rising_Son

3:46pm Tue 31 Dec 13

likewatchingbrazil says...

Rising_Son wrote:
likewatchingbrazil wrote: lazy and too slow, and can't seem to cope with our new style of play.
Do you think we should also get rid of Pochettino for being stupid enough to pick him (Lambert) week after week then?
not at all, but i do think if he had other options he would not pick him, can you honestly say your still 100% happy with Lambert since he played for England?
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]likewatchingbrazil[/bold] wrote: lazy and too slow, and can't seem to cope with our new style of play.[/p][/quote]Do you think we should also get rid of Pochettino for being stupid enough to pick him (Lambert) week after week then?[/p][/quote]not at all, but i do think if he had other options he would not pick him, can you honestly say your still 100% happy with Lambert since he played for England? likewatchingbrazil

4:13pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Rising_Son says...

likewatchingbrazil wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
likewatchingbrazil wrote: lazy and too slow, and can't seem to cope with our new style of play.
Do you think we should also get rid of Pochettino for being stupid enough to pick him (Lambert) week after week then?
not at all, but i do think if he had other options he would not pick him, can you honestly say your still 100% happy with Lambert since he played for England?
I can't say I'm 100% happy but I think his contribution to team is very positive. I see some good, imaginative passing and I don't see any laziness.
[quote][p][bold]likewatchingbrazil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]likewatchingbrazil[/bold] wrote: lazy and too slow, and can't seem to cope with our new style of play.[/p][/quote]Do you think we should also get rid of Pochettino for being stupid enough to pick him (Lambert) week after week then?[/p][/quote]not at all, but i do think if he had other options he would not pick him, can you honestly say your still 100% happy with Lambert since he played for England?[/p][/quote]I can't say I'm 100% happy but I think his contribution to team is very positive. I see some good, imaginative passing and I don't see any laziness. Rising_Son

4:26pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Costa Baz says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
the south coast is ours wrote:
we need european football and expand our ground and hopefully fill it, to keep the so called big clubs at bay.
I think just saying 'no' would be a lot more effective.
It doesn't matter how often a club says "no". The player will always have the final say.
If Saints are unable to offer European football, in the near future, it would be more likely that our young players may want to move on. I just hope none of them have a clause in their contracts, allowing them to leave if we are offered a certain amount, or if we don't achieve European football within a certain time.
A bigger ground and European football won't help much either if it's up to the players in the end. Ask Arsenal.
Ask Arsenal what?

What is it like to play in Europe every season?

All I'm saying is that if a player really wants to move, they will. Especially if we he has the ambition to play in European competitions and Saints can't provide it.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the south coast is ours[/bold] wrote: we need european football and expand our ground and hopefully fill it, to keep the so called big clubs at bay.[/p][/quote]I think just saying 'no' would be a lot more effective.[/p][/quote]It doesn't matter how often a club says "no". The player will always have the final say. If Saints are unable to offer European football, in the near future, it would be more likely that our young players may want to move on. I just hope none of them have a clause in their contracts, allowing them to leave if we are offered a certain amount, or if we don't achieve European football within a certain time.[/p][/quote]A bigger ground and European football won't help much either if it's up to the players in the end. Ask Arsenal.[/p][/quote]Ask Arsenal what? What is it like to play in Europe every season? All I'm saying is that if a player really wants to move, they will. Especially if we he has the ambition to play in European competitions and Saints can't provide it. Costa Baz

4:32pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Costa Baz says...

likewatchingbrazil wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
likewatchingbrazil wrote: lazy and too slow, and can't seem to cope with our new style of play.
Do you think we should also get rid of Pochettino for being stupid enough to pick him (Lambert) week after week then?
not at all, but i do think if he had other options he would not pick him, can you honestly say your still 100% happy with Lambert since he played for England?
Lambert has 6 goals and 5 assists, this season.
He might have his off days, but he is still the most effective player in the team, when talking about goals scored.
[quote][p][bold]likewatchingbrazil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]likewatchingbrazil[/bold] wrote: lazy and too slow, and can't seem to cope with our new style of play.[/p][/quote]Do you think we should also get rid of Pochettino for being stupid enough to pick him (Lambert) week after week then?[/p][/quote]not at all, but i do think if he had other options he would not pick him, can you honestly say your still 100% happy with Lambert since he played for England?[/p][/quote]Lambert has 6 goals and 5 assists, this season. He might have his off days, but he is still the most effective player in the team, when talking about goals scored. Costa Baz

5:13pm Tue 31 Dec 13

JohnItaly says...

Costa Baz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
the south coast is ours wrote:
we need european football and expand our ground and hopefully fill it, to keep the so called big clubs at bay.
I think just saying 'no' would be a lot more effective.
It doesn't matter how often a club says "no". The player will always have the final say.
If Saints are unable to offer European football, in the near future, it would be more likely that our young players may want to move on. I just hope none of them have a clause in their contracts, allowing them to leave if we are offered a certain amount, or if we don't achieve European football within a certain time.
Unfortunately I'm with you on this. With all football agents having an eye on potential future income it is in their interest for "their" players to move on so I cannot believe that when Luke Shaw signed his 5 year(?) contract it did not contain a release clause. I am also sure some agents would "let slip" what the release figure is should a "big" six club come a calling.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the south coast is ours[/bold] wrote: we need european football and expand our ground and hopefully fill it, to keep the so called big clubs at bay.[/p][/quote]I think just saying 'no' would be a lot more effective.[/p][/quote]It doesn't matter how often a club says "no". The player will always have the final say. If Saints are unable to offer European football, in the near future, it would be more likely that our young players may want to move on. I just hope none of them have a clause in their contracts, allowing them to leave if we are offered a certain amount, or if we don't achieve European football within a certain time.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately I'm with you on this. With all football agents having an eye on potential future income it is in their interest for "their" players to move on so I cannot believe that when Luke Shaw signed his 5 year(?) contract it did not contain a release clause. I am also sure some agents would "let slip" what the release figure is should a "big" six club come a calling. JohnItaly

6:04pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Clever Dick says...

JohnItaly wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
the south coast is ours wrote:
we need european football and expand our ground and hopefully fill it, to keep the so called big clubs at bay.
I think just saying 'no' would be a lot more effective.
It doesn't matter how often a club says "no". The player will always have the final say.
If Saints are unable to offer European football, in the near future, it would be more likely that our young players may want to move on. I just hope none of them have a clause in their contracts, allowing them to leave if we are offered a certain amount, or if we don't achieve European football within a certain time.
Unfortunately I'm with you on this. With all football agents having an eye on potential future income it is in their interest for "their" players to move on so I cannot believe that when Luke Shaw signed his 5 year(?) contract it did not contain a release clause. I am also sure some agents would "let slip" what the release figure is should a "big" six club come a calling.
You may well be right, but NC has proven to be very astute and ahead of the game where most of the old dinosaurs of football are concerned. I think we can rely on him to have some very solid contracts in place and to bleed any of the vultures dry should any players wish to move on
[quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the south coast is ours[/bold] wrote: we need european football and expand our ground and hopefully fill it, to keep the so called big clubs at bay.[/p][/quote]I think just saying 'no' would be a lot more effective.[/p][/quote]It doesn't matter how often a club says "no". The player will always have the final say. If Saints are unable to offer European football, in the near future, it would be more likely that our young players may want to move on. I just hope none of them have a clause in their contracts, allowing them to leave if we are offered a certain amount, or if we don't achieve European football within a certain time.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately I'm with you on this. With all football agents having an eye on potential future income it is in their interest for "their" players to move on so I cannot believe that when Luke Shaw signed his 5 year(?) contract it did not contain a release clause. I am also sure some agents would "let slip" what the release figure is should a "big" six club come a calling.[/p][/quote]You may well be right, but NC has proven to be very astute and ahead of the game where most of the old dinosaurs of football are concerned. I think we can rely on him to have some very solid contracts in place and to bleed any of the vultures dry should any players wish to move on Clever Dick

6:30pm Tue 31 Dec 13

george chivers says...

Clever Dick wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
the south coast is ours wrote:
we need european football and expand our ground and hopefully fill it, to keep the so called big clubs at bay.
I think just saying 'no' would be a lot more effective.
It doesn't matter how often a club says "no". The player will always have the final say.
If Saints are unable to offer European football, in the near future, it would be more likely that our young players may want to move on. I just hope none of them have a clause in their contracts, allowing them to leave if we are offered a certain amount, or if we don't achieve European football within a certain time.
Unfortunately I'm with you on this. With all football agents having an eye on potential future income it is in their interest for "their" players to move on so I cannot believe that when Luke Shaw signed his 5 year(?) contract it did not contain a release clause. I am also sure some agents would "let slip" what the release figure is should a "big" six club come a calling.
You may well be right, but NC has proven to be very astute and ahead of the game where most of the old dinosaurs of football are concerned. I think we can rely on him to have some very solid contracts in place and to bleed any of the vultures dry should any players wish to move on
Those bleeding vultures, they're everywhere!

Happy New Year to you all. Including the ones I upset the other day.

Goodwill to all Saints. Long may we pick up three points every time we play. Or at least, try to.

COYR STID
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the south coast is ours[/bold] wrote: we need european football and expand our ground and hopefully fill it, to keep the so called big clubs at bay.[/p][/quote]I think just saying 'no' would be a lot more effective.[/p][/quote]It doesn't matter how often a club says "no". The player will always have the final say. If Saints are unable to offer European football, in the near future, it would be more likely that our young players may want to move on. I just hope none of them have a clause in their contracts, allowing them to leave if we are offered a certain amount, or if we don't achieve European football within a certain time.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately I'm with you on this. With all football agents having an eye on potential future income it is in their interest for "their" players to move on so I cannot believe that when Luke Shaw signed his 5 year(?) contract it did not contain a release clause. I am also sure some agents would "let slip" what the release figure is should a "big" six club come a calling.[/p][/quote]You may well be right, but NC has proven to be very astute and ahead of the game where most of the old dinosaurs of football are concerned. I think we can rely on him to have some very solid contracts in place and to bleed any of the vultures dry should any players wish to move on[/p][/quote]Those bleeding vultures, they're everywhere! Happy New Year to you all. Including the ones I upset the other day. Goodwill to all Saints. Long may we pick up three points every time we play. Or at least, try to. COYR STID george chivers

8:10pm Tue 31 Dec 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

likewatchingbrazil wrote:
For sale;
Fox, Hoover, Lambert.
Wanted;
left back, center back, and a prolific striker
Must be struggling for players to pick on, no genuine Saints fan would want Rickie sold at this part of the season, it would be absolutely stupid.
[quote][p][bold]likewatchingbrazil[/bold] wrote: For sale; Fox, Hoover, Lambert. Wanted; left back, center back, and a prolific striker[/p][/quote]Must be struggling for players to pick on, no genuine Saints fan would want Rickie sold at this part of the season, it would be absolutely stupid. OSPREYSAINT

8:14pm Tue 31 Dec 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

george chivers wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
the south coast is ours wrote:
we need european football and expand our ground and hopefully fill it, to keep the so called big clubs at bay.
I think just saying 'no' would be a lot more effective.
It doesn't matter how often a club says "no". The player will always have the final say.
If Saints are unable to offer European football, in the near future, it would be more likely that our young players may want to move on. I just hope none of them have a clause in their contracts, allowing them to leave if we are offered a certain amount, or if we don't achieve European football within a certain time.
Unfortunately I'm with you on this. With all football agents having an eye on potential future income it is in their interest for "their" players to move on so I cannot believe that when Luke Shaw signed his 5 year(?) contract it did not contain a release clause. I am also sure some agents would "let slip" what the release figure is should a "big" six club come a calling.
You may well be right, but NC has proven to be very astute and ahead of the game where most of the old dinosaurs of football are concerned. I think we can rely on him to have some very solid contracts in place and to bleed any of the vultures dry should any players wish to move on
Those bleeding vultures, they're everywhere!

Happy New Year to you all. Including the ones I upset the other day.

Goodwill to all Saints. Long may we pick up three points every time we play. Or at least, try to.

COYR STID
GC It does us Happy Clappers good to be dragged out of our tunnel visioned approach with an occasional wake up call, if you have an opinion that isn't in the groove, but you really believe in it, you have every right to post it, and no way should you take umbrage at the responses. Happy New Year to you.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the south coast is ours[/bold] wrote: we need european football and expand our ground and hopefully fill it, to keep the so called big clubs at bay.[/p][/quote]I think just saying 'no' would be a lot more effective.[/p][/quote]It doesn't matter how often a club says "no". The player will always have the final say. If Saints are unable to offer European football, in the near future, it would be more likely that our young players may want to move on. I just hope none of them have a clause in their contracts, allowing them to leave if we are offered a certain amount, or if we don't achieve European football within a certain time.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately I'm with you on this. With all football agents having an eye on potential future income it is in their interest for "their" players to move on so I cannot believe that when Luke Shaw signed his 5 year(?) contract it did not contain a release clause. I am also sure some agents would "let slip" what the release figure is should a "big" six club come a calling.[/p][/quote]You may well be right, but NC has proven to be very astute and ahead of the game where most of the old dinosaurs of football are concerned. I think we can rely on him to have some very solid contracts in place and to bleed any of the vultures dry should any players wish to move on[/p][/quote]Those bleeding vultures, they're everywhere! Happy New Year to you all. Including the ones I upset the other day. Goodwill to all Saints. Long may we pick up three points every time we play. Or at least, try to. COYR STID[/p][/quote]GC It does us Happy Clappers good to be dragged out of our tunnel visioned approach with an occasional wake up call, if you have an opinion that isn't in the groove, but you really believe in it, you have every right to post it, and no way should you take umbrage at the responses. Happy New Year to you. OSPREYSAINT

10:13am Wed 1 Jan 14

Rising_Son says...

Costa Baz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
the south coast is ours wrote:
we need european football and expand our ground and hopefully fill it, to keep the so called big clubs at bay.
I think just saying 'no' would be a lot more effective.
It doesn't matter how often a club says "no". The player will always have the final say.
If Saints are unable to offer European football, in the near future, it would be more likely that our young players may want to move on. I just hope none of them have a clause in their contracts, allowing them to leave if we are offered a certain amount, or if we don't achieve European football within a certain time.
A bigger ground and European football won't help much either if it's up to the players in the end. Ask Arsenal.
Ask Arsenal what?

What is it like to play in Europe every season?

All I'm saying is that if a player really wants to move, they will. Especially if we he has the ambition to play in European competitions and Saints can't provide it.
Ask Arsenal why Fabregas, Adebayor, Nasri, van Persie and the Toure brothers amongst others aren't still playing for them. They had enlarged their ground and were regularly playing in Europe, but their players still wanted to go. Perhaps it's not all about Europe, but more about the money for some players. Otherwise, we're both saying the same thing: it's ultimately up to the players.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the south coast is ours[/bold] wrote: we need european football and expand our ground and hopefully fill it, to keep the so called big clubs at bay.[/p][/quote]I think just saying 'no' would be a lot more effective.[/p][/quote]It doesn't matter how often a club says "no". The player will always have the final say. If Saints are unable to offer European football, in the near future, it would be more likely that our young players may want to move on. I just hope none of them have a clause in their contracts, allowing them to leave if we are offered a certain amount, or if we don't achieve European football within a certain time.[/p][/quote]A bigger ground and European football won't help much either if it's up to the players in the end. Ask Arsenal.[/p][/quote]Ask Arsenal what? What is it like to play in Europe every season? All I'm saying is that if a player really wants to move, they will. Especially if we he has the ambition to play in European competitions and Saints can't provide it.[/p][/quote]Ask Arsenal why Fabregas, Adebayor, Nasri, van Persie and the Toure brothers amongst others aren't still playing for them. They had enlarged their ground and were regularly playing in Europe, but their players still wanted to go. Perhaps it's not all about Europe, but more about the money for some players. Otherwise, we're both saying the same thing: it's ultimately up to the players. Rising_Son

11:48am Wed 1 Jan 14

Chriops says...

At times like this, those timeless words from the great Pink Floyd come to mind...

Hey Moysey! Leave our kids alone

All in all you're just a...nother P rick in the wall
At times like this, those timeless words from the great Pink Floyd come to mind... Hey Moysey! Leave our kids alone All in all you're just a...nother P rick in the wall Chriops

12:16pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Chriops says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
the south coast is ours wrote:
we need european football and expand our ground and hopefully fill it, to keep the so called big clubs at bay.
I think just saying 'no' would be a lot more effective.
It doesn't matter how often a club says "no". The player will always have the final say.
If Saints are unable to offer European football, in the near future, it would be more likely that our young players may want to move on. I just hope none of them have a clause in their contracts, allowing them to leave if we are offered a certain amount, or if we don't achieve European football within a certain time.
A bigger ground and European football won't help much either if it's up to the players in the end. Ask Arsenal.
Ask Arsenal what?

What is it like to play in Europe every season?

All I'm saying is that if a player really wants to move, they will. Especially if we he has the ambition to play in European competitions and Saints can't provide it.
Ask Arsenal why Fabregas, Adebayor, Nasri, van Persie and the Toure brothers amongst others aren't still playing for them. They had enlarged their ground and were regularly playing in Europe, but their players still wanted to go. Perhaps it's not all about Europe, but more about the money for some players. Otherwise, we're both saying the same thing: it's ultimately up to the players.
There really is a huge difference between most clubs and ourselves. Lets face it, if a player wants to leave ( for example Alex the Ox) he will do so.

The difference between the Chaimberlin situation and now though, is that our current first team and academy players have little reason to leave, with a few exceptions - those being experienced players not getting enough game-time.

While I accept the argument regarding Arsenal, Players going there were expecting to win titles. It not exactly surprising that their best players have been leaving when the club has failed to deliver for almost a decade is it?

Saints on the other hand have Nicola Cortese, who seemingly has a crystal ball, and the knack of delivering what he says.

Years ago, when still in division one, Cortese was stating that he wanted 50% of the first team to have come through the academy, and Saints to be Challenging for the Premiership. On this same forum, his comments were being derided as delusional!

Now however, we can see that what he said was true.

The important thing here is that the whole team has totally bought into the vision of Nicola. He says we'll be playing in the CL, then the players believe that in a year or two we will be doing so.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the south coast is ours[/bold] wrote: we need european football and expand our ground and hopefully fill it, to keep the so called big clubs at bay.[/p][/quote]I think just saying 'no' would be a lot more effective.[/p][/quote]It doesn't matter how often a club says "no". The player will always have the final say. If Saints are unable to offer European football, in the near future, it would be more likely that our young players may want to move on. I just hope none of them have a clause in their contracts, allowing them to leave if we are offered a certain amount, or if we don't achieve European football within a certain time.[/p][/quote]A bigger ground and European football won't help much either if it's up to the players in the end. Ask Arsenal.[/p][/quote]Ask Arsenal what? What is it like to play in Europe every season? All I'm saying is that if a player really wants to move, they will. Especially if we he has the ambition to play in European competitions and Saints can't provide it.[/p][/quote]Ask Arsenal why Fabregas, Adebayor, Nasri, van Persie and the Toure brothers amongst others aren't still playing for them. They had enlarged their ground and were regularly playing in Europe, but their players still wanted to go. Perhaps it's not all about Europe, but more about the money for some players. Otherwise, we're both saying the same thing: it's ultimately up to the players.[/p][/quote]There really is a huge difference between most clubs and ourselves. Lets face it, if a player wants to leave ( for example Alex the Ox) he will do so. The difference between the Chaimberlin situation and now though, is that our current first team and academy players have little reason to leave, with a few exceptions - those being experienced players not getting enough game-time. While I accept the argument regarding Arsenal, Players going there were expecting to win titles. It not exactly surprising that their best players have been leaving when the club has failed to deliver for almost a decade is it? Saints on the other hand have Nicola Cortese, who seemingly has a crystal ball, and the knack of delivering what he says. Years ago, when still in division one, Cortese was stating that he wanted 50% of the first team to have come through the academy, and Saints to be Challenging for the Premiership. On this same forum, his comments were being derided as delusional! Now however, we can see that what he said was true. The important thing here is that the whole team has totally bought into the vision of Nicola. He says we'll be playing in the CL, then the players believe that in a year or two we will be doing so. Chriops

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