Developers table homes plans for Chineham and Dummer (From Basingstoke Gazette)
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Developers table homes plans for Chineham and Dummer
1:00pm Saturday 29th December 2012 in Local By Adam Richards
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Wates Developments' public consultation for its plans for Kennel Farm held at Hatch Warren Community Centre in May
BATTLE lines are being drawn after two planning applications for hundreds of homes were submitted days apart in the run up to Christmas.
Developer Croudace Strategic Ltd has submitted an outline application for more than 400 homes on land at Razor’s Farm, off Cufaude Lane in the north West of Chineham, and within the parish of Bramley.
And Wates Developments has applied to Basingstoke and Deane Borough Council’s planners for 310 homes on Kennel Farm, off the Winchester Road in Dummer parish.
Campaigners have complained that both applications were submitted during the run up to the Christmas period. Both applications have been lodged before the council finalises its Local Plan – a blueprint of where homes should be built in the borough up until 2029.
Surrey-based firm Croudace are seeking outline permission, which is general approval of the principles of the scheme, to build 425 homes on the 20.46-hectare plot, a children’s play area, and two new access roads off Crockford Lane.
In Croudace’s design and access statement – one of 76 documents submitted with the application – Croudace said that the responses from two public consultations earlier this year had been supportive.
It read: “Of those who commented on the masterplan, most people seemed broadly content with the form of the proposed scheme.”
Since the application was lodged on December 3, Basingstoke and Deane Borough Council has received 140 responses.
Only one was in favour, with 136 against the scheme, and three general comments.
One objector, Janet Aris, 61, of Thyme Close, in Chineham, criticised the plans, and expressed concern over traffic congestions, drainage plans, and pollution of the River Loddon.
“All in all, this whole proposal is a nightmare,” she said. “This is not ‘nimbyism’. It all seems under-hand. A lot of people don’t seem to know anything about it.”
And Chineham ward councillor Elaine Still, who lives in a Croudace-built home in Taylor’s Farm, said she is staunchly opposed to the plans.
“I am very concerned about the traffic,” she said. “I just think it will be too congested.”
Residents will be able to comment until January 4, but a spokeswoman for Basingstoke and Deane Borough Council said responses will still be taken into consideration beyond that date.
A public meeting organised by Chineham Parish Council is scheduled for January 8 from 7.30pm at Wesley Hall at Christ Church, in Reading Road.
The outline application for Kennel Farm, which was submitted on December 10, seeks permission for a mixture of homes made up of single bed properties, and up to five bedroom homes. A new access road off the A30 Winchester Road, and a pedestrian road will be built if the scheme gets the green light.
Oakley and North Waltham ward councillor Cllr Andrew Finney said the timing of the applications will not affect residents’ ability to make their views known.
He said: “Whatever the timing the developer has chosen, the (borough council) planners are going to make sure that people are going to get adequate time to express their views. I am sure the two-week delay during the Christmas period will be reflected in the term.”
A verdict on the Razor’s Farm application is expected by March 4, and the Kennel Farm application by April 3.
The Gazette left messages with Croudace and Wates but no replies had been received by the time the edition went to press.
Comments(14)
GC31
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5:51pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Sensory
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8:10pm Sat 29 Dec 12
But let's not mince words. Nimbys don't want others to enjoy the same benefits as them. And with the average age of a Nimby being >40, they have already enjoyed the benefits MUCH cheaper than any kids nowadays could hope to.
Max Headroom
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1:07pm Sun 30 Dec 12
I'm 25 and my partner's 26. We'll soon be financially stable enough to start saving for a deposit. Around Basingstoke the lowest price for a 2-bedroom house for starting a family is roughly £150k. A 20% deposit on this is £30k, which would take us at least 5 years to put together.
Partly because of NIMBYs nationwide, and partly due to little being done about empty or unused homes, there is an acute shortage of adequate housing. This affects my personal situation in 2 ways:
- By building new housing and people moving up the ladder, this frees up lower-priced housing for younger first-time buyers like myself.
- Alternatively, with the government's NewBuild scheme first-time buyers can buy a newly-built house with only a 5% deposit. Even for a £200k house this would mean just a £10k deposit, easily achievable for us.
The fact is this country need new housing, and lots of it. Also remember that this'll be providing jobs for manual labour workers, reducing unemployment in a hard-hit sector.
The older generation has screwed up our futures enough over the past few years. It's time for them to give us a chance to experience even a fraction of the good times they've had over the past couple of decades.
jonone
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6:01pm Sun 30 Dec 12
Sensory wrote:My house wasn't built on greenfield or woodland. But that is a scenario you're too retarded to understand.
I guess these Nimbys enjoy their own homes that are already built upon green fields and woodland, causing the same traffic and burden on services that they hypocritically complain about.
But let's not mince words. Nimbys don't want others to enjoy the same benefits as them. And with the average age of a Nimby being >40, they have already enjoyed the benefits MUCH cheaper than any kids nowadays could hope to.
Sensory
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8:26pm Sun 30 Dec 12
jonone wrote:No? You must live in a cave then, or on a boat maybe? Or do you think that because your house was built on something that someone called 'brownfield', you can rise above the Nimby argument (forgetting, of course, that everything was green and natural once....)
Sensory wrote:My house wasn't built on greenfield or woodland. But that is a scenario you're too retarded to understand.
I guess these Nimbys enjoy their own homes that are already built upon green fields and woodland, causing the same traffic and burden on services that they hypocritically complain about.
But let's not mince words. Nimbys don't want others to enjoy the same benefits as them. And with the average age of a Nimby being >40, they have already enjoyed the benefits MUCH cheaper than any kids nowadays could hope to.
I missed this little gem by Nimby councillor Elaine Still too (who also enjoys a nice house from which she can stop others from enjoying the same) “I am very concerned about the traffic. I just think it will be too congested.” Can someone confirm please if she, or any member of her family, drives a car?
The brass neck of some people is something to be amazed, and despaired shortly after. I can understand some barely literate troll such as jonone getting a bit agitated by change and progress, but a town councillor? Shame.
Best_Name_Ever
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1:04pm Mon 31 Dec 12
RgPostcode
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2:44pm Mon 31 Dec 12
jonone wrote:Which means your house would of been built literally in someones backyard....
Sensory wrote:My house wasn't built on greenfield or woodland. But that is a scenario you're too retarded to understand.
I guess these Nimbys enjoy their own homes that are already built upon green fields and woodland, causing the same traffic and burden on services that they hypocritically complain about.
But let's not mince words. Nimbys don't want others to enjoy the same benefits as them. And with the average age of a Nimby being >40, they have already enjoyed the benefits MUCH cheaper than any kids nowadays could hope to.
Marina Morris
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6:19pm Mon 31 Dec 12
Let's face it, once you're sat inside your house it doesn't matter what's going on a couple of streets away (unless it's a night club with the windows open!).
People from Thyme Close and the Taylors Farm development really are extracting the michael!
robertspet8
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3:19pm Wed 2 Jan 13
Nobody has to park their vehicle on a footpath Marina. They make a decision to do it. They would rather impede pedestrians, wheelchair users or parents with prams than have to walk a few yards themselves.
Buster Preciation
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3:56pm Wed 2 Jan 13
nothingchanges
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4:45pm Thu 3 Jan 13
robertspet8 wrote:Er, so what about the majority of new homes built in the last 10 years that have 1 space for a 4 bed family home? Most people have 2 cars so where do you expect them to park the other one? I live in such a development but luckily have 2 spaces so don't need to use the pavement and it annoys me seeing the road 'cluttered' with vehicles all over the path but realistically they have no other choice.
M M says,'...park on footpaths like they have to...'
Nobody has to park their vehicle on a footpath Marina. They make a decision to do it. They would rather impede pedestrians, wheelchair users or parents with prams than have to walk a few yards themselves.
Buster Preciation
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8:09am Fri 4 Jan 13
nothingchanges wrote:Perhaps they should factor in the number of parking places before they 'choose' the house? I did.
robertspet8 wrote: M M says,'...park on footpaths like they have to...' Nobody has to park their vehicle on a footpath Marina. They make a decision to do it. They would rather impede pedestrians, wheelchair users or parents with prams than have to walk a few yards themselves.Er, so what about the majority of new homes built in the last 10 years that have 1 space for a 4 bed family home? Most people have 2 cars so where do you expect them to park the other one? I live in such a development but luckily have 2 spaces so don't need to use the pavement and it annoys me seeing the road 'cluttered' with vehicles all over the path but realistically they have no other choice.
RgPostcode
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5:06am Sat 5 Jan 13
Buster Preciation wrote:Family homes should always have 2 spaces The man and the women both need to get to work.
nothingchanges wrote:Perhaps they should factor in the number of parking places before they 'choose' the house? I did.
robertspet8 wrote: M M says,'...park on footpaths like they have to...' Nobody has to park their vehicle on a footpath Marina. They make a decision to do it. They would rather impede pedestrians, wheelchair users or parents with prams than have to walk a few yards themselves.Er, so what about the majority of new homes built in the last 10 years that have 1 space for a 4 bed family home? Most people have 2 cars so where do you expect them to park the other one? I live in such a development but luckily have 2 spaces so don't need to use the pavement and it annoys me seeing the road 'cluttered' with vehicles all over the path but realistically they have no other choice.
ThomasPaine says...
5:20pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Let me just say that again, ELAINE STILL VOTED FOR RAZORS FARM TO BE DEVELOPED.
It never fails to amaze how hypocritical these Tories are.