Wanderers and Wasps owner: 'We want new stadium to be in Booker'

Basingstoke Gazette: Steve Hayes: 'We want new stadium to be in Booker' Steve Hayes: 'We want new stadium to be in Booker'

WYCOMBE Wanderers and Wasps want to build their new stadium in Booker, owner Steve Hayes said last night.

An official announcement is due to be made tomorrow, but Mr Hayes told a fundraising event: “For us it's going to be at Booker...and it's going to be called the Booker bid.”

The Wycombe Air Park site in Booker was expected to be the clubs' preference.

The event at Adams Park last night was an auction and dinner to raise money for flood victims in Pakistan.

Mr Hayes added: “The council are going to public consultation at the moment. We need your support, but don't do it for us do it for you... this is for the community."

Referring to Adams Park, the current ground for both clubs, he said: “It works here for a little bit, but nothing like it's going to work at Booker.”

Wycombe District Council is backing the ground move plan and has pledged £750,000 for a consultation to find the preferred site.

Leader Lesley Clarke said last week that people should not assume the council shares the club's view about the preferred site.

She has accused Liberal Democrat councillors of 'peddling lies' by claiming the Air Park was the council's chosen location in July.

The council has longlisted 19 sites and a consultation is currently in progress, with a decision expected in the New Year.

According to a financial report, the new stadium will cost more than £67m.

A document looking into the costs of a new shared ground for up to 20,000 supporters, prepared by financial advisers Grant Thornton, shows the total which, if it includes a 'sports village' as well, could cost beyond £88m.

Wycombe MP Steve Baker was also at the fundraiser last night and urged residents to take part in the consultation. He said: “I don't doubt the stadium will be controversial... there's no doubt that whoever has the stadium built next to them will be affected.

But he said the project is “exciting” and said of Mr Hayes: “I know how sincere Steve is about his commitment to the community.”

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11:56am Mon 27 Sep 10

wayneo says...

“I don't doubt the stadium will be controversial... there's no doubt that whoever has the stadium built next to them will be affected."

What a flippant remark by Baker. Baker, you'd do well to keep your gob shut, you're not a local and you have no idea how it will effect people.

As you ahve clearly shown your hand, it would be interesting to see as to what your involvement in this scam is. As for "whoever HAS the stadium built next to them" it aint built yet.
“I don't doubt the stadium will be controversial... there's no doubt that whoever has the stadium built next to them will be affected." What a flippant remark by Baker. Baker, you'd do well to keep your gob shut, you're not a local and you have no idea how it will effect people. As you ahve clearly shown your hand, it would be interesting to see as to what your involvement in this scam is. As for "whoever HAS the stadium built next to them" it aint built yet. wayneo
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1:27pm Mon 27 Sep 10

ArnyP_HW says...

Can anyone please tell me how this is going to benefit the community? I really don't get it! We are in a time of financial armageddon and barely able to afford the necessities in life and yet we seem to be throwing money at what appears to be an over-indulgent luxury. I want a holiday but I don't just chuck a load of money at one just because I want one. I take a step back and notice that there are more pressing places for my money to be placed. Wycombe already has sports facilities - why should the principles of this project be any different to my holiday??
Can anyone please tell me how this is going to benefit the community? I really don't get it! We are in a time of financial armageddon and barely able to afford the necessities in life and yet we seem to be throwing money at what appears to be an over-indulgent luxury. I want a holiday but I don't just chuck a load of money at one just because I want one. I take a step back and notice that there are more pressing places for my money to be placed. Wycombe already has sports facilities - why should the principles of this project be any different to my holiday?? ArnyP_HW
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1:58pm Mon 27 Sep 10

readerabc says...

an WDC first put together the business case for a new stadium and why public funds should be used

my business needs a new office...will WDC pay for it??

STOP WASTING OUR MONEY
how do we get rid of our council???

SW: Burn-hang!

maybe there is the answer!!
an WDC first put together the business case for a new stadium and why public funds should be used my business needs a new office...will WDC pay for it?? STOP WASTING OUR MONEY how do we get rid of our council??? SW: Burn-hang! maybe there is the answer!! readerabc
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1:59pm Mon 27 Sep 10

sparky49 says...

I would like to know how the hell you are going to fit 15,000 cars on a country road leading to the stadium (assuming it gets crowds off 20,000). It will be worse than the current ground and affect local traders aswell. Build it at the sport centre and have a dual purpose stadium.
I would like to know how the hell you are going to fit 15,000 cars on a country road leading to the stadium (assuming it gets crowds off 20,000). It will be worse than the current ground and affect local traders aswell. Build it at the sport centre and have a dual purpose stadium. sparky49
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2:24pm Mon 27 Sep 10

roger_totteridge says...

I'm open to the idea, although I have to say I think we would be better staying at Adams Park and using the money spent on a whole new stadium to improve access roads out of AP. A road out the back heading for the m-way would solve the traffic trouble.

What is happening to the air field? Is that closing down?
I'm open to the idea, although I have to say I think we would be better staying at Adams Park and using the money spent on a whole new stadium to improve access roads out of AP. A road out the back heading for the m-way would solve the traffic trouble. What is happening to the air field? Is that closing down? roger_totteridge
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2:36pm Mon 27 Sep 10

gungun says...

Shamefull, scandelous, disgusting!

Can't get those words out of my head when this subject arises - Sorry for being repetative! - But at least I am consistant!
Shamefull, scandelous, disgusting! Can't get those words out of my head when this subject arises - Sorry for being repetative! - But at least I am consistant! gungun
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2:48pm Mon 27 Sep 10

u5r23 says...

wayneo wrote:
“I don't doubt the stadium will be controversial... there's no doubt that whoever has the stadium built next to them will be affected."

What a flippant remark by Baker. Baker, you'd do well to keep your gob shut, you're not a local and you have no idea how it will effect people.

As you ahve clearly shown your hand, it would be interesting to see as to what your involvement in this scam is. As for "whoever HAS the stadium built next to them" it aint built yet.
'affect' not 'effect'

But you're right about Baker, perhaps he is on the Hayes payroll that seems to include most of the council?

I despise Hayes for what he has done to Wycombe Wanderers, he seems intent on running it into the ground
[quote][p][bold]wayneo[/bold] wrote: “I don't doubt the stadium will be controversial... there's no doubt that whoever has the stadium built next to them will be affected." What a flippant remark by Baker. Baker, you'd do well to keep your gob shut, you're not a local and you have no idea how it will effect people. As you ahve clearly shown your hand, it would be interesting to see as to what your involvement in this scam is. As for "whoever HAS the stadium built next to them" it aint built yet.[/p][/quote]'affect' not 'effect' But you're right about Baker, perhaps he is on the Hayes payroll that seems to include most of the council? I despise Hayes for what he has done to Wycombe Wanderers, he seems intent on running it into the ground u5r23
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2:50pm Mon 27 Sep 10

chesham20 says...

Why not build the new stadium in Wales. WHO CARES ANYWAY....
Why not build the new stadium in Wales. WHO CARES ANYWAY.... chesham20
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2:53pm Mon 27 Sep 10

JP80 says...

£80 million would presumably buy you a new motorway junction with a dedicated road straight down to Lane End Road ..
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the whole thing is fishy but the most important thing is COMPLAIN COMPLAIN COMPLAIN and don't let your views be ridden over for the quest for all involved to make money at the community's expense....
£80 million would presumably buy you a new motorway junction with a dedicated road straight down to Lane End Road .. . the whole thing is fishy but the most important thing is COMPLAIN COMPLAIN COMPLAIN and don't let your views be ridden over for the quest for all involved to make money at the community's expense.... JP80
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3:35pm Mon 27 Sep 10

chairboy2 says...

loan shark hayes needs to bog off,he has ruined our football club,now he is going to ruin our town.
loan shark hayes needs to bog off,he has ruined our football club,now he is going to ruin our town. chairboy2
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3:41pm Mon 27 Sep 10

acjy1985 says...

Steve Hayes is right. A 20,000 seat stadium is just what a mid-table, League 2 side need. Then the average gate can have the luxury of 4 seats each!
Steve Hayes is right. A 20,000 seat stadium is just what a mid-table, League 2 side need. Then the average gate can have the luxury of 4 seats each! acjy1985
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4:06pm Mon 27 Sep 10

Gerry47 says...

You only have to look at Darlington FC to get an idea of the risks involved for Wycombe Wanderers FC.
Darlington FC's owner built a 25000 seat stadium, fit for the Championship, and are currently plying their trade in the Blue Square Premier (non-league, for those who don't know) . Their last fixture attracted a crowd of just over 1500.
You only have to look at Darlington FC to get an idea of the risks involved for Wycombe Wanderers FC. Darlington FC's owner built a 25000 seat stadium, fit for the Championship, and are currently plying their trade in the Blue Square Premier (non-league, for those who don't know) . Their last fixture attracted a crowd of just over 1500. Gerry47
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4:19pm Mon 27 Sep 10

wycswan says...

It's about time our council understood that, we cannot afford luxuries at the present time.
That includes expensive consultations too.
If Wycombe Wanderers and the Wasps want or need a new stadium then let them pay for it.
It's about time our council understood that, we cannot afford luxuries at the present time. That includes expensive consultations too. If Wycombe Wanderers and the Wasps want or need a new stadium then let them pay for it. wycswan
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4:47pm Mon 27 Sep 10

BigTommy says...

Steve Hayes: "WE WANT ..." (You pay!)
~
Why do they want it there? Because it would be a bit easier for all the non-Wycombe folk to get there from London.
~
*****Spend Wycombe council tax on Wycombe people.*****
Steve Hayes: "WE WANT ..." (You pay!) ~ Why do they want it there? Because it would be a bit easier for all the non-Wycombe folk to get there from London. ~ *****Spend Wycombe council tax on Wycombe people.***** BigTommy
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5:57pm Mon 27 Sep 10

ChilternsBlue says...

wayneo wrote:
“I don't doubt the stadium will be controversial... there's no doubt that whoever has the stadium built next to them will be affected." What a flippant remark by Baker. Baker, you'd do well to keep your gob shut, you're not a local and you have no idea how it will effect people. As you ahve clearly shown your hand, it would be interesting to see as to what your involvement in this scam is. As for "whoever HAS the stadium built next to them" it aint built yet.
Aiming your ire at Steve Baker is unnecessary and unjustified. As Steve admitted, the proposal is controversial, and he encouraged people to participate in the consultation process. I'd echo those comments. I can assure you that he is aware of local feelings on the matter. I have discussed it with him myself for one. The important thing is that people participate in the consultation process and express their views on the issue.
[quote][p][bold]wayneo[/bold] wrote: “I don't doubt the stadium will be controversial... there's no doubt that whoever has the stadium built next to them will be affected." What a flippant remark by Baker. Baker, you'd do well to keep your gob shut, you're not a local and you have no idea how it will effect people. As you ahve clearly shown your hand, it would be interesting to see as to what your involvement in this scam is. As for "whoever HAS the stadium built next to them" it aint built yet.[/p][/quote]Aiming your ire at Steve Baker is unnecessary and unjustified. As Steve admitted, the proposal is controversial, and he encouraged people to participate in the consultation process. I'd echo those comments. I can assure you that he is aware of local feelings on the matter. I have discussed it with him myself for one. The important thing is that people participate in the consultation process and express their views on the issue. ChilternsBlue
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6:29pm Mon 27 Sep 10

Madders says...

ChilternsBlue wrote:
wayneo wrote:
“I don't doubt the stadium will be controversial... there's no doubt that whoever has the stadium built next to them will be affected." What a flippant remark by Baker. Baker, you'd do well to keep your gob shut, you're not a local and you have no idea how it will effect people. As you ahve clearly shown your hand, it would be interesting to see as to what your involvement in this scam is. As for "whoever HAS the stadium built next to them" it aint built yet.
Aiming your ire at Steve Baker is unnecessary and unjustified. As Steve admitted, the proposal is controversial, and he encouraged people to participate in the consultation process. I'd echo those comments. I can assure you that he is aware of local feelings on the matter. I have discussed it with him myself for one. The important thing is that people participate in the consultation process and express their views on the issue.
LOL ! do you work for him ?

the cosultation process will be a farce as the decision has almost definately been made , palms greased and any forseen problems planned for . Money talks Money talks dirty cash i want you , dirty cash i need you !

There is nothing benefitial to the local community if the stadium moves to booker . That road fills up when the garden center gets busy or the farm shop is doing its winter veg deal .

Im sure i remember one of the main reasons for moving to sands was the fact that if required they could expand .

Why WDC are having anything to do with this in the current climate is laughable , but then again so is everything they have done for the lasty 10 years .

RANT OVER !
[quote][p][bold]ChilternsBlue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wayneo[/bold] wrote: “I don't doubt the stadium will be controversial... there's no doubt that whoever has the stadium built next to them will be affected." What a flippant remark by Baker. Baker, you'd do well to keep your gob shut, you're not a local and you have no idea how it will effect people. As you ahve clearly shown your hand, it would be interesting to see as to what your involvement in this scam is. As for "whoever HAS the stadium built next to them" it aint built yet.[/p][/quote]Aiming your ire at Steve Baker is unnecessary and unjustified. As Steve admitted, the proposal is controversial, and he encouraged people to participate in the consultation process. I'd echo those comments. I can assure you that he is aware of local feelings on the matter. I have discussed it with him myself for one. The important thing is that people participate in the consultation process and express their views on the issue.[/p][/quote]LOL ! do you work for him ? the cosultation process will be a farce as the decision has almost definately been made , palms greased and any forseen problems planned for . Money talks Money talks dirty cash i want you , dirty cash i need you ! There is nothing benefitial to the local community if the stadium moves to booker . That road fills up when the garden center gets busy or the farm shop is doing its winter veg deal . Im sure i remember one of the main reasons for moving to sands was the fact that if required they could expand . Why WDC are having anything to do with this in the current climate is laughable , but then again so is everything they have done for the lasty 10 years . RANT OVER ! Madders
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6:38pm Mon 27 Sep 10

wayneo says...

ChilternsBlue wrote:
wayneo wrote: “I don't doubt the stadium will be controversial... there's no doubt that whoever has the stadium built next to them will be affected." What a flippant remark by Baker. Baker, you'd do well to keep your gob shut, you're not a local and you have no idea how it will effect people. As you ahve clearly shown your hand, it would be interesting to see as to what your involvement in this scam is. As for "whoever HAS the stadium built next to them" it aint built yet.
Aiming your ire at Steve Baker is unnecessary and unjustified. As Steve admitted, the proposal is controversial, and he encouraged people to participate in the consultation process. I'd echo those comments. I can assure you that he is aware of local feelings on the matter. I have discussed it with him myself for one. The important thing is that people participate in the consultation process and express their views on the issue.
No it's not unjustified, he has made almost identical comments as Tony green, to them it might be exciting but to others it will change their lives and their standard of living in the negative forever. During a consultation they shouldn't be saying anything, they would be best advised to keep their gobs closed as they represent all, not the few rugby supporters; a consultation should be apolitical. As for the "plans" we are being told very little about this white elephant.

http://www.propertyw
eek.com/london-wasps
-seek-new-%C2%A350m-
nest/3159035.article
[quote][p][bold]ChilternsBlue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wayneo[/bold] wrote: “I don't doubt the stadium will be controversial... there's no doubt that whoever has the stadium built next to them will be affected." What a flippant remark by Baker. Baker, you'd do well to keep your gob shut, you're not a local and you have no idea how it will effect people. As you ahve clearly shown your hand, it would be interesting to see as to what your involvement in this scam is. As for "whoever HAS the stadium built next to them" it aint built yet.[/p][/quote]Aiming your ire at Steve Baker is unnecessary and unjustified. As Steve admitted, the proposal is controversial, and he encouraged people to participate in the consultation process. I'd echo those comments. I can assure you that he is aware of local feelings on the matter. I have discussed it with him myself for one. The important thing is that people participate in the consultation process and express their views on the issue.[/p][/quote]No it's not unjustified, he has made almost identical comments as Tony green, to them it might be exciting but to others it will change their lives and their standard of living in the negative forever. During a consultation they shouldn't be saying anything, they would be best advised to keep their gobs closed as they represent all, not the few rugby supporters; a consultation should be apolitical. As for the "plans" we are being told very little about this white elephant. http://www.propertyw eek.com/london-wasps -seek-new-%C2%A350m- nest/3159035.article wayneo
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6:49pm Mon 27 Sep 10

wayneo says...

Madders wrote:
ChilternsBlue wrote:
wayneo wrote: “I don't doubt the stadium will be controversial... there's no doubt that whoever has the stadium built next to them will be affected." What a flippant remark by Baker. Baker, you'd do well to keep your gob shut, you're not a local and you have no idea how it will effect people. As you ahve clearly shown your hand, it would be interesting to see as to what your involvement in this scam is. As for "whoever HAS the stadium built next to them" it aint built yet.
Aiming your ire at Steve Baker is unnecessary and unjustified. As Steve admitted, the proposal is controversial, and he encouraged people to participate in the consultation process. I'd echo those comments. I can assure you that he is aware of local feelings on the matter. I have discussed it with him myself for one. The important thing is that people participate in the consultation process and express their views on the issue.
LOL ! do you work for him ? the cosultation process will be a farce as the decision has almost definately been made , palms greased and any forseen problems planned for . Money talks Money talks dirty cash i want you , dirty cash i need you ! There is nothing benefitial to the local community if the stadium moves to booker . That road fills up when the garden center gets busy or the farm shop is doing its winter veg deal . Im sure i remember one of the main reasons for moving to sands was the fact that if required they could expand . Why WDC are having anything to do with this in the current climate is laughable , but then again so is everything they have done for the lasty 10 years . RANT OVER !
http://twitter.com/C
hilternsBlue

Shame Marcus, I actually totally agree with what you wrote here:

“Adams Park is the perfect stadium for a club of our size - not small enough to feel crowded but with plenty of room to move around and not too large that you feel dwarfed by the surroundings. I can't think of a stadium in the country where I would rather watch football than in such a picturesque stadium. Adams Park has a personality all of its own. It will never have the atmosphere of some stadia up and down the country, but what it has is unique.”
[quote][p][bold]Madders[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChilternsBlue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wayneo[/bold] wrote: “I don't doubt the stadium will be controversial... there's no doubt that whoever has the stadium built next to them will be affected." What a flippant remark by Baker. Baker, you'd do well to keep your gob shut, you're not a local and you have no idea how it will effect people. As you ahve clearly shown your hand, it would be interesting to see as to what your involvement in this scam is. As for "whoever HAS the stadium built next to them" it aint built yet.[/p][/quote]Aiming your ire at Steve Baker is unnecessary and unjustified. As Steve admitted, the proposal is controversial, and he encouraged people to participate in the consultation process. I'd echo those comments. I can assure you that he is aware of local feelings on the matter. I have discussed it with him myself for one. The important thing is that people participate in the consultation process and express their views on the issue.[/p][/quote]LOL ! do you work for him ? the cosultation process will be a farce as the decision has almost definately been made , palms greased and any forseen problems planned for . Money talks Money talks dirty cash i want you , dirty cash i need you ! There is nothing benefitial to the local community if the stadium moves to booker . That road fills up when the garden center gets busy or the farm shop is doing its winter veg deal . Im sure i remember one of the main reasons for moving to sands was the fact that if required they could expand . Why WDC are having anything to do with this in the current climate is laughable , but then again so is everything they have done for the lasty 10 years . RANT OVER ![/p][/quote]http://twitter.com/C hilternsBlue Shame Marcus, I actually totally agree with what you wrote here: “Adams Park is the perfect stadium for a club of our size - not small enough to feel crowded but with plenty of room to move around and not too large that you feel dwarfed by the surroundings. I can't think of a stadium in the country where I would rather watch football than in such a picturesque stadium. Adams Park has a personality all of its own. It will never have the atmosphere of some stadia up and down the country, but what it has is unique.” wayneo
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7:09pm Mon 27 Sep 10

John Ley says...

I can just imagine it: Nigel Farage in his micro light plane pulling a UKIP banner round a packed stadium filmed by TV crews as he goes in to land at Booker airfield.
I can just imagine it: Nigel Farage in his micro light plane pulling a UKIP banner round a packed stadium filmed by TV crews as he goes in to land at Booker airfield. John Ley
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7:12pm Mon 27 Sep 10

wayneo says...

John Ley wrote:
I can just imagine it: Nigel Farage in his micro light plane pulling a UKIP banner round a packed stadium filmed by TV crews as he goes in to land at Booker airfield.
I would have thought he's iven up flying after his last little incident :-0)
[quote][p][bold]John Ley[/bold] wrote: I can just imagine it: Nigel Farage in his micro light plane pulling a UKIP banner round a packed stadium filmed by TV crews as he goes in to land at Booker airfield.[/p][/quote]I would have thought he's iven up flying after his last little incident :-0) wayneo
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7:37pm Mon 27 Sep 10

wayneo says...

given up even
given up even wayneo
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8:02pm Mon 27 Sep 10

wayneo says...

Gerry47 wrote:
You only have to look at Darlington FC to get an idea of the risks involved for Wycombe Wanderers FC. Darlington FC's owner built a 25000 seat stadium, fit for the Championship, and are currently plying their trade in the Blue Square Premier (non-league, for those who don't know) . Their last fixture attracted a crowd of just over 1500.
problem is Gerry, is that the council will likely have to borrow most of the money as the enabling development wouldn't be realised, hayes will unlikely get anywhere near 80 million quid from the sale of Adams' park and the 30 acres of land he wants to develop for housing, (land that he does not own,the taxpayer does). WSDL have not traded, have liabilities of 100quid and can but walk away leaving the taxpayer with a worthless white elephant that nobody wants.

watch out for some creative accounting and shannigans that would make the Bassetsbury Manor sell-off look like chicken-feed.
[quote][p][bold]Gerry47[/bold] wrote: You only have to look at Darlington FC to get an idea of the risks involved for Wycombe Wanderers FC. Darlington FC's owner built a 25000 seat stadium, fit for the Championship, and are currently plying their trade in the Blue Square Premier (non-league, for those who don't know) . Their last fixture attracted a crowd of just over 1500.[/p][/quote]problem is Gerry, is that the council will likely have to borrow most of the money as the enabling development wouldn't be realised, hayes will unlikely get anywhere near 80 million quid from the sale of Adams' park and the 30 acres of land he wants to develop for housing, (land that he does not own,the taxpayer does). WSDL have not traded, have liabilities of 100quid and can but walk away leaving the taxpayer with a worthless white elephant that nobody wants. watch out for some creative accounting and shannigans that would make the Bassetsbury Manor sell-off look like chicken-feed. wayneo
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10:22pm Mon 27 Sep 10

chapmani says...

Most Wasp support is now local, open your eyes when walking around town and you will see lots of people wearing Wasps attire. Five of the current Wasps playing staff are local lads and hopeful of more in the future. Forget the London tag that is just corporate, Wasps are now Wycombe.

I remember well all the uproar of WWFC fans my self included about the move to the industrial estate, but now fans do not want to move from there, short memories or how easy we resettle.
I stopped watching WWFC because of the traffic hassle as did many friends. A ground with improved access and the crowds may come back, my self included.
Away from sport Wycombe Swan was supposedly a white elephant, but is now a great asset to the town.

WWFC & Wasps are great assets to the town and it is time they had a use-able stadium and a community stadium is a great idea. Community stadium being the norm in a lot of Europe.
Most Wasp support is now local, open your eyes when walking around town and you will see lots of people wearing Wasps attire. Five of the current Wasps playing staff are local lads and hopeful of more in the future. Forget the London tag that is just corporate, Wasps are now Wycombe. I remember well all the uproar of WWFC fans my self included about the move to the industrial estate, but now fans do not want to move from there, short memories or how easy we resettle. I stopped watching WWFC because of the traffic hassle as did many friends. A ground with improved access and the crowds may come back, my self included. Away from sport Wycombe Swan was supposedly a white elephant, but is now a great asset to the town. WWFC & Wasps are great assets to the town and it is time they had a use-able stadium and a community stadium is a great idea. Community stadium being the norm in a lot of Europe. chapmani
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10:48pm Mon 27 Sep 10

Farmer Pickles says...

I don't understand why Booker is a better site for access - it is still basically one road in and one road out. And that is an already busy residential road.

It is a fair distance from the motorway, and as for it being a "community" stadium it is miles away from anywhere. It may bring some extra trade to the likes of Asda but it will make no difference to the town centre.

I'm not against the idea of a community stadium but it needs to be centrally located, near an existing public transport hub and as a bonus really should include the replacement to Handy Cross Sports Centre which the Conservatives promised us in their last election manifesto yet have failed to deliver, citing insufficient funds.
I don't understand why Booker is a better site for access - it is still basically one road in and one road out. And that is an already busy residential road. It is a fair distance from the motorway, and as for it being a "community" stadium it is miles away from anywhere. It may bring some extra trade to the likes of Asda but it will make no difference to the town centre. I'm not against the idea of a community stadium but it needs to be centrally located, near an existing public transport hub and as a bonus really should include the replacement to Handy Cross Sports Centre which the Conservatives promised us in their last election manifesto yet have failed to deliver, citing insufficient funds. Farmer Pickles
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10:48pm Mon 27 Sep 10

chris740 says...

Wanderers and Wasps owner: 'We want new stadium to be in Booker'

the people of wycombe wants the council to spend our money on something worth while aswell.

not this flash in the pan stadium.

good old wycombe council brings wycombe down once more
Wanderers and Wasps owner: 'We want new stadium to be in Booker' the people of wycombe wants the council to spend our money on something worth while aswell. not this flash in the pan stadium. good old wycombe council brings wycombe down once more chris740
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10:58pm Mon 27 Sep 10

Farmer Pickles says...

If you look here http://tiny.cc/t8esl you can see there are already slip roads built off the motorway so in terms of access both from the motorway and access from the town it would be far better to build this thing between Abbe Barn Lane and the old American Air Base.

Trouble is that would involve Hayes paying market value for the land as opposed to being given it by our "cash strapped" council.

sw: need-loan
If you look here http://tiny.cc/t8esl you can see there are already slip roads built off the motorway so in terms of access both from the motorway and access from the town it would be far better to build this thing between Abbe Barn Lane and the old American Air Base. Trouble is that would involve Hayes paying market value for the land as opposed to being given it by our "cash strapped" council. sw: need-loan Farmer Pickles
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11:42pm Mon 27 Sep 10

gpn01 says...

WYCOMBE Wanderers and Wasps want to build THEIR new stadium in Booker, owner Steve Hayes said last night.

....Exactly right. Due credit to Steve Hayes for not using the smokescreen of promoting this as a 'Community' stadium for 'Our' use. No. It's out & out for Wycombe Wanderers and London Wasps. Who will of course be funding it....after all, nobody in their right mind would expect the local tax payer to fund a new development that's intended to benefit two privately owned businesses.
WYCOMBE Wanderers and Wasps want to build THEIR new stadium in Booker, owner Steve Hayes said last night. ....Exactly right. Due credit to Steve Hayes for not using the smokescreen of promoting this as a 'Community' stadium for 'Our' use. No. It's out & out for Wycombe Wanderers and London Wasps. Who will of course be funding it....after all, nobody in their right mind would expect the local tax payer to fund a new development that's intended to benefit two privately owned businesses. gpn01
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12:59am Tue 28 Sep 10

OllieNewbury says...

Farmer Pickles wrote:
If you look here http://tiny.cc/t8esl you can see there are already slip roads built off the motorway so in terms of access both from the motorway and access from the town it would be far better to build this thing between Abbe Barn Lane and the old American Air Base.

Trouble is that would involve Hayes paying market value for the land as opposed to being given it by our "cash strapped" council.

sw: need-loan
Those slips roads were supposed to lead to a service area between J3 and 4. Plans were thrown out but the little stubs that were to form the slip roads remain.
[quote][p][bold]Farmer Pickles[/bold] wrote: If you look here http://tiny.cc/t8esl you can see there are already slip roads built off the motorway so in terms of access both from the motorway and access from the town it would be far better to build this thing between Abbe Barn Lane and the old American Air Base. Trouble is that would involve Hayes paying market value for the land as opposed to being given it by our "cash strapped" council. sw: need-loan[/p][/quote]Those slips roads were supposed to lead to a service area between J3 and 4. Plans were thrown out but the little stubs that were to form the slip roads remain. OllieNewbury
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1:26am Tue 28 Sep 10

Steve Totteridge Hill says...

JUST SAY NO TO HAYES!!!

Let hime dip into his pocket for a fair reveue...


NB Im a Rugby Union fan...now is NOT the time!
JUST SAY NO TO HAYES!!! Let hime dip into his pocket for a fair reveue... NB Im a Rugby Union fan...now is NOT the time! Steve Totteridge Hill
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5:47am Tue 28 Sep 10

dr death says...

thats a bit rich!!!!!! the council saying it will give 750.000!!!!!!!!!! wen they say they have no money wot a f##king joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!11
thats a bit rich!!!!!! the council saying it will give 750.000!!!!!!!!!! wen they say they have no money wot a f##king joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!11 dr death
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8:45am Tue 28 Sep 10

BigDuddy says...

I dont care much about wycombe wanderers and dont care at all about wasps , the council are a joke , the waste of money going on here is nothing new , every year our taxes go up reguardless what they do/don't waste money on .

why do they even need a new stadium?
why not increase the current staduim , then build a couple of decent match day park and rides ( not like the shambles of a park and ride we have now (for match day) on opposite ends of the town so it can serve people across the area ..... not the best sollution but will cost a hell of a lot less than the 88m they talking of atm .
I dont care much about wycombe wanderers and dont care at all about wasps , the council are a joke , the waste of money going on here is nothing new , every year our taxes go up reguardless what they do/don't waste money on . why do they even need a new stadium? why not increase the current staduim , then build a couple of decent match day park and rides ( not like the shambles of a park and ride we have now (for match day) on opposite ends of the town so it can serve people across the area ..... not the best sollution but will cost a hell of a lot less than the 88m they talking of atm . BigDuddy
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9:17am Tue 28 Sep 10

ChilternsBlue says...

wayneo wrote:
Madders wrote:
ChilternsBlue wrote:
wayneo wrote: “I don't doubt the stadium will be controversial... there's no doubt that whoever has the stadium built next to them will be affected." What a flippant remark by Baker. Baker, you'd do well to keep your gob shut, you're not a local and you have no idea how it will effect people. As you ahve clearly shown your hand, it would be interesting to see as to what your involvement in this scam is. As for "whoever HAS the stadium built next to them" it aint built yet.
Aiming your ire at Steve Baker is unnecessary and unjustified. As Steve admitted, the proposal is controversial, and he encouraged people to participate in the consultation process. I'd echo those comments. I can assure you that he is aware of local feelings on the matter. I have discussed it with him myself for one. The important thing is that people participate in the consultation process and express their views on the issue.
LOL ! do you work for him ? the cosultation process will be a farce as the decision has almost definately been made , palms greased and any forseen problems planned for . Money talks Money talks dirty cash i want you , dirty cash i need you ! There is nothing benefitial to the local community if the stadium moves to booker . That road fills up when the garden center gets busy or the farm shop is doing its winter veg deal . Im sure i remember one of the main reasons for moving to sands was the fact that if required they could expand . Why WDC are having anything to do with this in the current climate is laughable , but then again so is everything they have done for the lasty 10 years . RANT OVER !
http://twitter.com/C hilternsBlue Shame Marcus, I actually totally agree with what you wrote here: “Adams Park is the perfect stadium for a club of our size - not small enough to feel crowded but with plenty of room to move around and not too large that you feel dwarfed by the surroundings. I can't think of a stadium in the country where I would rather watch football than in such a picturesque stadium. Adams Park has a personality all of its own. It will never have the atmosphere of some stadia up and down the country, but what it has is unique.”
And I still agree with that. I am totally opposed to the new stadium. I just felt the comments about Steve Baker were unnecessary. I promise you he knows how I feel!
[quote][p][bold]wayneo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Madders[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChilternsBlue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wayneo[/bold] wrote: “I don't doubt the stadium will be controversial... there's no doubt that whoever has the stadium built next to them will be affected." What a flippant remark by Baker. Baker, you'd do well to keep your gob shut, you're not a local and you have no idea how it will effect people. As you ahve clearly shown your hand, it would be interesting to see as to what your involvement in this scam is. As for "whoever HAS the stadium built next to them" it aint built yet.[/p][/quote]Aiming your ire at Steve Baker is unnecessary and unjustified. As Steve admitted, the proposal is controversial, and he encouraged people to participate in the consultation process. I'd echo those comments. I can assure you that he is aware of local feelings on the matter. I have discussed it with him myself for one. The important thing is that people participate in the consultation process and express their views on the issue.[/p][/quote]LOL ! do you work for him ? the cosultation process will be a farce as the decision has almost definately been made , palms greased and any forseen problems planned for . Money talks Money talks dirty cash i want you , dirty cash i need you ! There is nothing benefitial to the local community if the stadium moves to booker . That road fills up when the garden center gets busy or the farm shop is doing its winter veg deal . Im sure i remember one of the main reasons for moving to sands was the fact that if required they could expand . Why WDC are having anything to do with this in the current climate is laughable , but then again so is everything they have done for the lasty 10 years . RANT OVER ![/p][/quote]http://twitter.com/C hilternsBlue Shame Marcus, I actually totally agree with what you wrote here: “Adams Park is the perfect stadium for a club of our size - not small enough to feel crowded but with plenty of room to move around and not too large that you feel dwarfed by the surroundings. I can't think of a stadium in the country where I would rather watch football than in such a picturesque stadium. Adams Park has a personality all of its own. It will never have the atmosphere of some stadia up and down the country, but what it has is unique.”[/p][/quote]And I still agree with that. I am totally opposed to the new stadium. I just felt the comments about Steve Baker were unnecessary. I promise you he knows how I feel! ChilternsBlue
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9:44am Tue 28 Sep 10

wayneo says...

ChilternsBlue wrote:
wayneo wrote:
Madders wrote:
ChilternsBlue wrote:
wayneo wrote: “I don't doubt the stadium will be controversial... there's no doubt that whoever has the stadium built next to them will be affected." What a flippant remark by Baker. Baker, you'd do well to keep your gob shut, you're not a local and you have no idea how it will effect people. As you ahve clearly shown your hand, it would be interesting to see as to what your involvement in this scam is. As for "whoever HAS the stadium built next to them" it aint built yet.
Aiming your ire at Steve Baker is unnecessary and unjustified. As Steve admitted, the proposal is controversial, and he encouraged people to participate in the consultation process. I'd echo those comments. I can assure you that he is aware of local feelings on the matter. I have discussed it with him myself for one. The important thing is that people participate in the consultation process and express their views on the issue.
LOL ! do you work for him ? the cosultation process will be a farce as the decision has almost definately been made , palms greased and any forseen problems planned for . Money talks Money talks dirty cash i want you , dirty cash i need you ! There is nothing benefitial to the local community if the stadium moves to booker . That road fills up when the garden center gets busy or the farm shop is doing its winter veg deal . Im sure i remember one of the main reasons for moving to sands was the fact that if required they could expand . Why WDC are having anything to do with this in the current climate is laughable , but then again so is everything they have done for the lasty 10 years . RANT OVER !
http://twitter.com/C hilternsBlue Shame Marcus, I actually totally agree with what you wrote here: “Adams Park is the perfect stadium for a club of our size - not small enough to feel crowded but with plenty of room to move around and not too large that you feel dwarfed by the surroundings. I can't think of a stadium in the country where I would rather watch football than in such a picturesque stadium. Adams Park has a personality all of its own. It will never have the atmosphere of some stadia up and down the country, but what it has is unique.”
And I still agree with that. I am totally opposed to the new stadium. I just felt the comments about Steve Baker were unnecessary. I promise you he knows how I feel!
Fair comment marcus but when people feel they aren't being listened to they will get angry, it was the "exciting" and "I know how sincere Steve is about his commitment to the community comment that riled me; Steve hayes is out for Steve hayes, anybody with any sense realises that since 2005 with how he's treated WWFC and the supporters,otherwise
, I aree with much of what's on Steve baker's website.
[quote][p][bold]ChilternsBlue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wayneo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Madders[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChilternsBlue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wayneo[/bold] wrote: “I don't doubt the stadium will be controversial... there's no doubt that whoever has the stadium built next to them will be affected." What a flippant remark by Baker. Baker, you'd do well to keep your gob shut, you're not a local and you have no idea how it will effect people. As you ahve clearly shown your hand, it would be interesting to see as to what your involvement in this scam is. As for "whoever HAS the stadium built next to them" it aint built yet.[/p][/quote]Aiming your ire at Steve Baker is unnecessary and unjustified. As Steve admitted, the proposal is controversial, and he encouraged people to participate in the consultation process. I'd echo those comments. I can assure you that he is aware of local feelings on the matter. I have discussed it with him myself for one. The important thing is that people participate in the consultation process and express their views on the issue.[/p][/quote]LOL ! do you work for him ? the cosultation process will be a farce as the decision has almost definately been made , palms greased and any forseen problems planned for . Money talks Money talks dirty cash i want you , dirty cash i need you ! There is nothing benefitial to the local community if the stadium moves to booker . That road fills up when the garden center gets busy or the farm shop is doing its winter veg deal . Im sure i remember one of the main reasons for moving to sands was the fact that if required they could expand . Why WDC are having anything to do with this in the current climate is laughable , but then again so is everything they have done for the lasty 10 years . RANT OVER ![/p][/quote]http://twitter.com/C hilternsBlue Shame Marcus, I actually totally agree with what you wrote here: “Adams Park is the perfect stadium for a club of our size - not small enough to feel crowded but with plenty of room to move around and not too large that you feel dwarfed by the surroundings. I can't think of a stadium in the country where I would rather watch football than in such a picturesque stadium. Adams Park has a personality all of its own. It will never have the atmosphere of some stadia up and down the country, but what it has is unique.”[/p][/quote]And I still agree with that. I am totally opposed to the new stadium. I just felt the comments about Steve Baker were unnecessary. I promise you he knows how I feel![/p][/quote]Fair comment marcus but when people feel they aren't being listened to they will get angry, it was the "exciting" and "I know how sincere Steve is about his commitment to the community comment that riled me; Steve hayes is out for Steve hayes, anybody with any sense realises that since 2005 with how he's treated WWFC and the supporters,otherwise , I aree with much of what's on Steve baker's website. wayneo
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9:52am Tue 28 Sep 10

wayneo says...

Fair comment marcus and I do agree with much of what Steve baker writes on his website. When people feel they aren't being listened to they will get angry, it was the "exciting" and "I know how sincere Steve is about his commitment to the community comment that riled me; Steve hayes is out for Steve hayes, one only has to look at his conduct since 2005 to realise that, the "community" component is chaff, designed to hoodwink the wider public and the planning inspectorate that this elephant will be for the community, most of us aren't that stupid.
Fair comment marcus and I do agree with much of what Steve baker writes on his website. When people feel they aren't being listened to they will get angry, it was the "exciting" and "I know how sincere Steve is about his commitment to the community comment that riled me; Steve hayes is out for Steve hayes, one only has to look at his conduct since 2005 to realise that, the "community" component is chaff, designed to hoodwink the wider public and the planning inspectorate that this elephant will be for the community, most of us aren't that stupid. wayneo
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10:15am Tue 28 Sep 10

demoness says...

wayneo wrote:
Fair comment marcus and I do agree with much of what Steve baker writes on his website. When people feel they aren't being listened to they will get angry, it was the "exciting" and "I know how sincere Steve is about his commitment to the community comment that riled me; Steve hayes is out for Steve hayes, one only has to look at his conduct since 2005 to realise that, the "community" component is chaff, designed to hoodwink the wider public and the planning inspectorate that this elephant will be for the community, most of us aren't that stupid.
I agree Wayneo -one only has to look at his smug face to realise that.

It is obscene that in this current political climate WDC are even considering this plan.
And what( god forbid) if there was a major incident in this brave new stadium.
We don't even have a fully functioning hospital!
Wycombe is being turned into a mini Reading BUT without the transport links and infrastructure to support it.
Sod people's way of life - this is all about money.
Lesley Clarke and her cronies should be ashamed of themselves but they won't be.

I know longer live in Wycombe and am not likely to again. But it is my home town and it grieves me to see what is happening to it. :(
[quote][p][bold]wayneo[/bold] wrote: Fair comment marcus and I do agree with much of what Steve baker writes on his website. When people feel they aren't being listened to they will get angry, it was the "exciting" and "I know how sincere Steve is about his commitment to the community comment that riled me; Steve hayes is out for Steve hayes, one only has to look at his conduct since 2005 to realise that, the "community" component is chaff, designed to hoodwink the wider public and the planning inspectorate that this elephant will be for the community, most of us aren't that stupid.[/p][/quote]I agree Wayneo -one only has to look at his smug face to realise that. It is obscene that in this current political climate WDC are even considering this plan. And what( god forbid) if there was a major incident in this brave new stadium. We don't even have a fully functioning hospital! Wycombe is being turned into a mini Reading BUT without the transport links and infrastructure to support it. Sod people's way of life - this is all about money. Lesley Clarke and her cronies should be ashamed of themselves but they won't be. I know longer live in Wycombe and am not likely to again. But it is my home town and it grieves me to see what is happening to it. :( demoness
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10:37am Tue 28 Sep 10

ash007 says...

Walmart are good at building football stadia! look at MK Dons & Man City!could it be possible that they are secretly involved in moving there 25+yr old store to possibly a brand new Supercentre!??
Walmart are good at building football stadia! look at MK Dons & Man City!could it be possible that they are secretly involved in moving there 25+yr old store to possibly a brand new Supercentre!?? ash007
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10:48am Tue 28 Sep 10

wayneo says...

demoness wrote:
wayneo wrote: Fair comment marcus and I do agree with much of what Steve baker writes on his website. When people feel they aren't being listened to they will get angry, it was the "exciting" and "I know how sincere Steve is about his commitment to the community comment that riled me; Steve hayes is out for Steve hayes, one only has to look at his conduct since 2005 to realise that, the "community" component is chaff, designed to hoodwink the wider public and the planning inspectorate that this elephant will be for the community, most of us aren't that stupid.
I agree Wayneo -one only has to look at his smug face to realise that. It is obscene that in this current political climate WDC are even considering this plan. And what( god forbid) if there was a major incident in this brave new stadium. We don't even have a fully functioning hospital! Wycombe is being turned into a mini Reading BUT without the transport links and infrastructure to support it. Sod people's way of life - this is all about money. Lesley Clarke and her cronies should be ashamed of themselves but they won't be. I know longer live in Wycombe and am not likely to again. But it is my home town and it grieves me to see what is happening to it. :(
Well said demoness, people allow them to get away with it, they won't put pen to paper, instead they say, it'll happen whatever we say, I say it won't. Politicians detest it when people question their ideals or campaign against them, they prefer apathy, laziness and those who couldn't care less.

People can fight this and they can expose this charade for what it is.
[quote][p][bold]demoness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wayneo[/bold] wrote: Fair comment marcus and I do agree with much of what Steve baker writes on his website. When people feel they aren't being listened to they will get angry, it was the "exciting" and "I know how sincere Steve is about his commitment to the community comment that riled me; Steve hayes is out for Steve hayes, one only has to look at his conduct since 2005 to realise that, the "community" component is chaff, designed to hoodwink the wider public and the planning inspectorate that this elephant will be for the community, most of us aren't that stupid.[/p][/quote]I agree Wayneo -one only has to look at his smug face to realise that. It is obscene that in this current political climate WDC are even considering this plan. And what( god forbid) if there was a major incident in this brave new stadium. We don't even have a fully functioning hospital! Wycombe is being turned into a mini Reading BUT without the transport links and infrastructure to support it. Sod people's way of life - this is all about money. Lesley Clarke and her cronies should be ashamed of themselves but they won't be. I know longer live in Wycombe and am not likely to again. But it is my home town and it grieves me to see what is happening to it. :([/p][/quote]Well said demoness, people allow them to get away with it, they won't put pen to paper, instead they say, it'll happen whatever we say, I say it won't. Politicians detest it when people question their ideals or campaign against them, they prefer apathy, laziness and those who couldn't care less. People can fight this and they can expose this charade for what it is. wayneo
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10:53am Tue 28 Sep 10

wayneo says...

ash007 wrote:
Walmart are good at building football stadia! look at MK Dons & Man City!could it be possible that they are secretly involved in moving there 25+yr old store to possibly a brand new Supercentre!??
I doubt it but then we haven't been informed of any firm plans; There will be 30 acres of housing, the new stadium, parking for 2500 cars, 40 coach bays, a so-called sports village, a 200 bedroom hotel and the likelyhood of the current air park buildings being built on the north-side of the air park, that means new access roads on the peri-track and via the shooting ground.

WDC will fiddle it in order that the land is reclassified or development, which would ultimately allow spillage into other parts of the Greenbelt, so I wouldn't be at all suprised if yet another retail park of sorts is built further down the line.
[quote][p][bold]ash007[/bold] wrote: Walmart are good at building football stadia! look at MK Dons & Man City!could it be possible that they are secretly involved in moving there 25+yr old store to possibly a brand new Supercentre!??[/p][/quote]I doubt it but then we haven't been informed of any firm plans; There will be 30 acres of housing, the new stadium, parking for 2500 cars, 40 coach bays, a so-called sports village, a 200 bedroom hotel and the likelyhood of the current air park buildings being built on the north-side of the air park, that means new access roads on the peri-track and via the shooting ground. WDC will fiddle it in order that the land is reclassified or development, which would ultimately allow spillage into other parts of the Greenbelt, so I wouldn't be at all suprised if yet another retail park of sorts is built further down the line. wayneo
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11:20am Tue 28 Sep 10

demoness says...

wayneo wrote:
ash007 wrote:
Walmart are good at building football stadia! look at MK Dons & Man City!could it be possible that they are secretly involved in moving there 25+yr old store to possibly a brand new Supercentre!??
I doubt it but then we haven't been informed of any firm plans; There will be 30 acres of housing, the new stadium, parking for 2500 cars, 40 coach bays, a so-called sports village, a 200 bedroom hotel and the likelyhood of the current air park buildings being built on the north-side of the air park, that means new access roads on the peri-track and via the shooting ground.

WDC will fiddle it in order that the land is reclassified or development, which would ultimately allow spillage into other parts of the Greenbelt, so I wouldn't be at all suprised if yet another retail park of sorts is built further down the line.
The thing is it is very underdeveloped out there so they must be rubbing their hands together in glee.
This council is corrupt - there I said it!!
[quote][p][bold]wayneo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ash007[/bold] wrote: Walmart are good at building football stadia! look at MK Dons & Man City!could it be possible that they are secretly involved in moving there 25+yr old store to possibly a brand new Supercentre!??[/p][/quote]I doubt it but then we haven't been informed of any firm plans; There will be 30 acres of housing, the new stadium, parking for 2500 cars, 40 coach bays, a so-called sports village, a 200 bedroom hotel and the likelyhood of the current air park buildings being built on the north-side of the air park, that means new access roads on the peri-track and via the shooting ground. WDC will fiddle it in order that the land is reclassified or development, which would ultimately allow spillage into other parts of the Greenbelt, so I wouldn't be at all suprised if yet another retail park of sorts is built further down the line.[/p][/quote]The thing is it is very underdeveloped out there so they must be rubbing their hands together in glee. This council is corrupt - there I said it!! demoness
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12:16pm Tue 28 Sep 10

ash007 says...

Asda regenerate in urban areas!

www.stadium-mk-co-uk
Asda regenerate in urban areas! www.stadium-mk-co-uk ash007
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12:33pm Tue 28 Sep 10

J B Blackett says...

He's not a crook (allegedly). Surely not . Never . Not in a month of Sundays
.
Who's saying he is ?
.
Likewise the Council. I Do Not Believe !
They are there for us - the people. That's what they say all time.
.
I sounds like some of you don't believe these people - ever. I wonder why. Is it because of past events and their histories ?
He's not a crook (allegedly). Surely not . Never . Not in a month of Sundays . Who's saying he is ? . Likewise the Council. I Do Not Believe ! They are there for us - the people. That's what they say all time. . I sounds like some of you don't believe these people - ever. I wonder why. Is it because of past events and their histories ? J B Blackett
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12:53pm Tue 28 Sep 10

wayneo says...

J B Blackett wrote:
He's not a crook (allegedly). Surely not . Never . Not in a month of Sundays . Who's saying he is ? . Likewise the Council. I Do Not Believe ! They are there for us - the people. That's what they say all time. . I sounds like some of you don't believe these people - ever. I wonder why. Is it because of past events and their histories ?
I think that it is:

WSDL are begin for support now:

http://www.wycombeco
mmunitystadium.com/p
rocess.asp

"Consultation plays a significant part in the planning process – and that’s where you can help."
[quote][p][bold]J B Blackett[/bold] wrote: He's not a crook (allegedly). Surely not . Never . Not in a month of Sundays . Who's saying he is ? . Likewise the Council. I Do Not Believe ! They are there for us - the people. That's what they say all time. . I sounds like some of you don't believe these people - ever. I wonder why. Is it because of past events and their histories ?[/p][/quote]I think that it is: WSDL are begin for support now: http://www.wycombeco mmunitystadium.com/p rocess.asp "Consultation plays a significant part in the planning process – and that’s where you can help." wayneo
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1:19pm Tue 28 Sep 10

Agniesca says...

The Booker site will inflict a high level of congestion, yobbish behaviour and pollution on the area and result in an excessively large stadium and a financila black hole. The Abbey Barn site wouldl have a similar outcome, but with even more congestion. The Adams park site currently inflicts an unacceptable level of congestion and pollution.
There is no site in the Wycombe area where a stadium of 20000 seats can be located without great harm to the surrounding area and generating a financial black hole.
Why not save money and inprove access to Adams Park by putting in a through road; this will mitigate the suffering of the local residents at a lower cost, all be it at the expense of despoiling a beautiful area of green belt.
All three options offer the prospect of large profits to somebody,so lets go for the best for Wycombe residents
The Booker site will inflict a high level of congestion, yobbish behaviour and pollution on the area and result in an excessively large stadium and a financila black hole. The Abbey Barn site wouldl have a similar outcome, but with even more congestion. The Adams park site currently inflicts an unacceptable level of congestion and pollution. There is no site in the Wycombe area where a stadium of 20000 seats can be located without great harm to the surrounding area and generating a financial black hole. Why not save money and inprove access to Adams Park by putting in a through road; this will mitigate the suffering of the local residents at a lower cost, all be it at the expense of despoiling a beautiful area of green belt. All three options offer the prospect of large profits to somebody,so lets go for the best for Wycombe residents Agniesca
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2:15pm Tue 28 Sep 10

hondo says...

I know this isn't helpful, it's plagiarised from a blog on BBC this morning, but it is appropriate.
~
"The Golden Rule is, the person with the Gold makes the rules."
~
The question is of course, apart from the ratepayers' money being mis-used by WDC .... who has the money?
~
Show me the money.
~
The latest financial assessment infers that there is not that kind of money available, not in High Wycombe, nor in the market for this type of development. The only winners look to be the potential developers; the losers, Wycombe ratepayers.
I know this isn't helpful, it's plagiarised from a blog on BBC this morning, but it is appropriate. ~ "The Golden Rule is, the person with the Gold makes the rules." ~ The question is of course, apart from the ratepayers' money being mis-used by WDC .... who has the money? ~ Show me the money. ~ The latest financial assessment infers that there is not that kind of money available, not in High Wycombe, nor in the market for this type of development. The only winners look to be the potential developers; the losers, Wycombe ratepayers. hondo
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8:38pm Tue 28 Sep 10

towncryer says...

Farmer Pickles wrote:
If you look here http://tiny.cc/t8esl you can see there are already slip roads built off the motorway so in terms of access both from the motorway and access from the town it would be far better to build this thing between Abbe Barn Lane and the old American Air Base.

Trouble is that would involve Hayes paying market value for the land as opposed to being given it by our "cash strapped" council.

sw: need-loan
FP
Spot on
[quote][p][bold]Farmer Pickles[/bold] wrote: If you look here http://tiny.cc/t8esl you can see there are already slip roads built off the motorway so in terms of access both from the motorway and access from the town it would be far better to build this thing between Abbe Barn Lane and the old American Air Base. Trouble is that would involve Hayes paying market value for the land as opposed to being given it by our "cash strapped" council. sw: need-loan[/p][/quote]FP Spot on towncryer
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8:59pm Tue 28 Sep 10

gpn01 says...

It seems that various contributors onsome of the other articles are saying that their responses have been deleted. They may wish to join a group that has been set up on Facebook which has a number of links to articles and documents about the stadium plan.

The group is called Wycombe District Taxpayers against wasting money on a sports stadium.

http://www.facebook.

com/board.php?status

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It seems that various contributors onsome of the other articles are saying that their responses have been deleted. They may wish to join a group that has been set up on Facebook which has a number of links to articles and documents about the stadium plan. The group is called Wycombe District Taxpayers against wasting money on a sports stadium. http://www.facebook. com/board.php?status =256&uid=16395927028 5614#!/group.php?gid =163959270285614 gpn01
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9:36am Wed 29 Sep 10

hamilton says...

MOAN MOAN MOAN does anybody out there stop and think that there are worse things happening in the world today than moving a stadium a couple of miles? Has anyone out there considered for just one momemnt the extra jobs it could create for the community with the demolition or reconstruction of the current site. The erction of the future site? The extra manpower needed to steward the games, traffic controls, parking attendandances, ticket sales etc, no you all jst want to moan about how it might affect YOU. But you are not thinking ahead and playing the long game here if Wycombe do well in league or cup I notice that the whole town will turn up for the victory parade, yet from the comments I have read today about the proposed move, you would be lead to believe that nobody follows the blues or the Wasps round here. Get a life stop moaning and consider the matter in greater detail first. It could be worse yo cold be stuck down a mine not knowing if you are going to ever get out. You could be starving, or thirsty. A little perspective PLEASE.
MOAN MOAN MOAN does anybody out there stop and think that there are worse things happening in the world today than moving a stadium a couple of miles? Has anyone out there considered for just one momemnt the extra jobs it could create for the community with the demolition or reconstruction of the current site. The erction of the future site? The extra manpower needed to steward the games, traffic controls, parking attendandances, ticket sales etc, no you all jst want to moan about how it might affect YOU. But you are not thinking ahead and playing the long game here if Wycombe do well in league or cup I notice that the whole town will turn up for the victory parade, yet from the comments I have read today about the proposed move, you would be lead to believe that nobody follows the blues or the Wasps round here. Get a life stop moaning and consider the matter in greater detail first. It could be worse yo cold be stuck down a mine not knowing if you are going to ever get out. You could be starving, or thirsty. A little perspective PLEASE. hamilton
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10:06am Wed 29 Sep 10

wayneo says...

hamilton wrote:
MOAN MOAN MOAN does anybody out there stop and think that there are worse things happening in the world today than moving a stadium a couple of miles? Has anyone out there considered for just one momemnt the extra jobs it could create for the community with the demolition or reconstruction of the current site. The erction of the future site? The extra manpower needed to steward the games, traffic controls, parking attendandances, ticket sales etc, no you all jst want to moan about how it might affect YOU. But you are not thinking ahead and playing the long game here if Wycombe do well in league or cup I notice that the whole town will turn up for the victory parade, yet from the comments I have read today about the proposed move, you would be lead to believe that nobody follows the blues or the Wasps round here. Get a life stop moaning and consider the matter in greater detail first. It could be worse yo cold be stuck down a mine not knowing if you are going to ever get out. You could be starving, or thirsty. A little perspective PLEASE.
Ah right, so because some Chilean is stuck down a mine that's a reason to develop a sports Stadium, nice one, good point, I never thought of that rolleyes. It might actually have something to do with the owner of two clubs wanting to make even more money off of the taxpayers of wycombe District and have his name in lights.

I guess the reason why SO many people wish to live in villages, is because they want to see them concreted-over and developed, they would be more than happy to have their quality of life disrupted and interfered with so somebody can play a game of football and hold concerts until 11 o'clock at night, i'm sure they'd love the extra traffic, the noise, the crime, the fact that this white- elephant is on their doorsteps; I'm sure that Frank Adams donated land to the WWFC so that it could benefit a Rugby club from london.

You mention jobs, 250 people are employed at the Air Park, many of them skilled, are you telling me that you would be happy to see those skilled jobs being replaced with unskilled work? There is absolutely no evidence that this scam would bring in extra jobs unless it was developed further then what, we concrete over the green belt, bring in yet more people and we don't even have a frigging hospital for pete's sake.

You mention that other people are worse off, yes they might well be, but that doesn't mean that you have to balance being better off by becoming worse off, such logic is fuzzy and that's being polite.

town-huge
[quote][p][bold]hamilton[/bold] wrote: MOAN MOAN MOAN does anybody out there stop and think that there are worse things happening in the world today than moving a stadium a couple of miles? Has anyone out there considered for just one momemnt the extra jobs it could create for the community with the demolition or reconstruction of the current site. The erction of the future site? The extra manpower needed to steward the games, traffic controls, parking attendandances, ticket sales etc, no you all jst want to moan about how it might affect YOU. But you are not thinking ahead and playing the long game here if Wycombe do well in league or cup I notice that the whole town will turn up for the victory parade, yet from the comments I have read today about the proposed move, you would be lead to believe that nobody follows the blues or the Wasps round here. Get a life stop moaning and consider the matter in greater detail first. It could be worse yo cold be stuck down a mine not knowing if you are going to ever get out. You could be starving, or thirsty. A little perspective PLEASE.[/p][/quote]Ah right, so because some Chilean is stuck down a mine that's a reason to develop a sports Stadium, nice one, good point, I never thought of that rolleyes. It might actually have something to do with the owner of two clubs wanting to make even more money off of the taxpayers of wycombe District and have his name in lights. I guess the reason why SO many people wish to live in villages, is because they want to see them concreted-over and developed, they would be more than happy to have their quality of life disrupted and interfered with so somebody can play a game of football and hold concerts until 11 o'clock at night, i'm sure they'd love the extra traffic, the noise, the crime, the fact that this white- elephant is on their doorsteps; I'm sure that Frank Adams donated land to the WWFC so that it could benefit a Rugby club from london. You mention jobs, 250 people are employed at the Air Park, many of them skilled, are you telling me that you would be happy to see those skilled jobs being replaced with unskilled work? There is absolutely no evidence that this scam would bring in extra jobs unless it was developed further then what, we concrete over the green belt, bring in yet more people and we don't even have a frigging hospital for pete's sake. You mention that other people are worse off, yes they might well be, but that doesn't mean that you have to balance being better off by becoming worse off, such logic is fuzzy and that's being polite. town-huge wayneo
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