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Wycombe District Council spending on stadium for Wycombe Wanderers and London Wasps 'obscene'

Council spending on stadium 'obscene' Council spending on stadium 'obscene'

AN opposition councillor today blasted council spending on a stadium plan - which could reach £750,000 - as ‘obscene’ and ‘deplorable’.

Liberal Democrat Councillor Trevor Snaith hit out at Wycombe District Council for the spending when, he said, other parts of the district need community facilities.

He spoke after the council sold Bassetsbury Manor near The Rye in High Wycombe for £1.2m and closed nearby Holywell Mead outdoor swimming pool to save £66,000 a year.

And council leader Councillor Lesley Clarke was slammed for saying council cash for the stadium plan is ‘not taxpayers’ money’.

The Conservative controlled council and Wycombe Wanderers and London Wasps chiefs yesterday spoke about their support for a move from Adams Park (see link, bottom of story).

The council will spend up to £750,000 looking into the move – to include a ‘sports village’ – and could sell its land to finance the new stadium.

Cllr Snaith said: “This is the same money that the council got from the asset strip and sale of Bassetsbury Manor and continues to get when it sells off other pieces of land and buildings ‘we own’.

“The capital receipts from these High Wycombe land and property dealings belong to the taxpayer. “The proceeds should be spent on locally based community projects in the town to directly to the benefit of local residents.”

He said areas such as Ryemead, Bowerdean and Terriers had ‘major deficiencies’ in community facilities.

He said: “There are groups of children looking for youth centres , young mothers wanting play groups and pensioners’ day centres to meet up and socialise.”

Cllr Snaith, a member for Ryemead, said: “It is deplorable that Cllr Clarke and WDC refuse to set aside council funds from property dealings, to deliver the needs of local people.

“However they are prepared to allocate obscene amounts for consultations and long term speculative projects like the stadium.” The council has said the move could not go ahead as a result of the ‘feasibility’ study work, to which Steve Hayes, the owner of the clubs, is contributing £250,000.

Cllr Snaith said: “WDC needs a reality check and start spending funds on more pressing ward based community projects to build strong local communities.

“The stadium is a nice to have project but local community needs must be served first.”

And party colleague and Totteridge councillor Steve Guy hit out after the council leader said the £750,000 is ‘not taxpayers’ money’ as it would come from property deals.

Cllr Guy said: “If you ask the man in the street if that was our money I think they would say yes.

“Councillor Clarke and the public have a different idea of what taxpayers’ money is. I don’t care where they got it from – it belongs to us.”

While he said the plans were ‘encouraging’ and the sports village idea ‘exciting’, questions remained about why the council had not invested in other community facilities.

He pointed to a ‘much more modest’ business plan put forward by volunteers to keep the pool open that was rejected by the council is unviable and unsafe.

Cllr Guy said: “Why can you afford that but you can’t afford to keep the pool open?”

And he took issue over a council FAQ which said land sold by the council could be used for ‘housing or commercial development’ – raising the prospect of homes at Wycombe Air Park, said to be the council’s preferred option.

Cllr Guy said: “Which is it? That could give us a view one way or the other whether that is a good thing.”

Click the links below for more stories about the plan, including a video of yesterday’s press conference.

Comments(26)

sandman73 says...
11:27am Thu 18 Mar 10

Voted Conservatives for years but not anymore.
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Got my vote

MCarey says...
11:29am Thu 18 Mar 10

totally agree with this councillor, wdc are shameless chucking money at a new stadium, what the hell will i get out of it when i dont like football or rugby disgusting

Laneender says...
11:30am Thu 18 Mar 10

Hear Hear, I have for the most part always voted Conservative, I have never voted LibDems because of their Pro-Europe attitude, at a local level however, I will certainly be voting for them in the May 2011 local elections if they continue to(as in this case), be an opposition to this ghastly Tory 'administration'.

sandman73 says...
11:34am Thu 18 Mar 10

yep don't agree with them on a higher level but locally i will give them my vote

BigTommy says...
11:38am Thu 18 Mar 10

On this issue he is absolutely right!
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Too many people are going to make something out of this ... at the expense of the public.

Phredd says...
11:51am Thu 18 Mar 10

Yes the north side of town needs a gymnastics facility. My daughter goes to a successful gym club (has over 200 kids attending every week, has county and regional champions) up there that is in desperate need of one. Currently trains in a small junior school hall.
Spend the money on an steel barn type building for them, and it will help several hundred children get fitter rather than sitting watching other people getting fit.

muffintop says...
12:03pm Thu 18 Mar 10

I to am going to change my lifelong allegiance and vote Lib Dem this time.
Something is not right about all this and I am very concerned about other community based facilities suffering in the light of this ridiculous amount being spent in the future.

My teenagers have to make do with school based sports as to make use of a 'club' is far to expensive for us to contemplate. The facilities need to be at grass roots level where the kids are playing in the parks and fields (before the Council sell them off that is).

I can see it now, the big new shinny Stadium, home of London Wasps - oh yes, and that football team, Wycombe Wanderers play there as well.

usvelt says...
12:38pm Thu 18 Mar 10

Good man. He has secured another vote.

chris740 says...
12:42pm Thu 18 Mar 10

the peopl;e of wycombe should stick together. and confront the council about this.
why should the council do as they want .
the tax payer cant

monique says...
12:48pm Thu 18 Mar 10

Adding insult to injury, Ive just got my council tax bill through the post today, so I looked at it a bit closer than usual to see where it goes.

Police share about 10%

Fire Brigade share about 4%

Wasteful, self-serving, nepotistic, bin bugging councils, THE REST!

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So we get what we deserve when we vote for this lot. Our money being wasted, to placate a spoiled rich bloke after he threatened to leave with his rugby club. Shame on you!

Timmy Pursey says...
2:23pm Thu 18 Mar 10

The thing that riles me most is Steve Hayes false persona about it being for the health and prosperity of the people of Wycombe. Steve Hayes is not from Wycombe,nor does or has ever lived in Wycombe. His only connection was being a mate to ex WWFC player Terry Evans.
Here is a man who made his fortune from the industry that preyed on those staring poverty in the face and had no other option but to use his Loans company. Then to make our he cares about the community is simply stomach churning.

Farmer Pickles says...
3:14pm Thu 18 Mar 10

It's all very well saying that you will vote for the alternative at the next district elections. The local conservatives are so well resourced and the seats are so safe they aren't easy to beat.

Each ward needs local residents who are well known to put themselves forward, either as independents or with a party like the Lib Dems, to ensure that there is a credible alternative in every ward of the Wycombe District.

To turn a majority of 40 around is going to take hard work and resources so people had better start working now if we are going to see significant change in May 2011.

towncryer says...
3:39pm Thu 18 Mar 10

Believe that Cllr Steve Guy is the Lib Dem Parliamentary Candidate also.
We need to give the Tories locally a fright and vote in some real opposition !!
We need to be voting Lib Dem this time -- That will rattle Hayes ,Clarke and their Tory cronies!!

Monte Cristo says...
3:44pm Thu 18 Mar 10

I understand that the cash raised from releasing development land can only be used for community projects. So to that extent Lesley ClLarke is accurate. But why not just provide additional community facilities at Booker or wherever, but with no Stadium? The Stadium part is needed by private business, not the general taxpaying community. That money could be used to much better effect, namely to improve facilities in other locations within the district, couldn't it?

Wanda Brown says...
3:52pm Thu 18 Mar 10

I concur with all of the above. No more Tory voting from me. Oh look at that password, 'soon-beat'. I certainly hope so! Anyone living in Hazlemere should get themselves to the community centre tonight for the Residents Associations' last meeting before we go in front of the planning committee next Thurs 24th. Meeting at 7.30.

Monte Cristo says...
3:53pm Thu 18 Mar 10

Monte Cristo wrote:
I understand that the cash raised from releasing development land can only be used for community projects. So to that extent Lesley ClLarke is accurate. But why not just provide additional community facilities at Booker or wherever, but with no Stadium? The Stadium part is needed by private business, not the general taxpaying community. That money could be used to much better effect, namely to improve facilities in other locations within the district, couldn't it?
I meant to say "the Stadium part is WANTED by prviate business".
For it is not NEEDED at all !!

towncryer says...
4:47pm Thu 18 Mar 10

Wanda Brown wrote:
I concur with all of the above. No more Tory voting from me. Oh look at that password, 'soon-beat'. I certainly hope so! Anyone living in Hazlemere should get themselves to the community centre tonight for the Residents Associations' last meeting before we go in front of the planning committee next Thurs 24th. Meeting at 7.30.
Good luck to Hazlemere residents.

Would invite some Lib Dem councillors to support you seems they are the only ones in touch with issues we across the town at moment.

A VOTER says...
6:18pm Thu 18 Mar 10

I love the quote from the main article above:

“Councillor Clarke and the public have a different idea of what taxpayers’ money is. I don’t care where they got it from – it belongs to us.”

So True, and along the lines of the type of attitude that Mary Antoinette had.... Now what ever happened to her I wonder???

WWFC4Eva says...
6:32pm Thu 18 Mar 10

**** steve hayes building a new stadium ? :@ how about he **** starts paying the ballboys, and moves them into a propper room rather than a **** storeroom, yes a storeroom !!!
how can he think about a new stadium when these things are going on at adam's park !!!
and yes he does know about it because many people have complained about it !!!!!!!

weyfarer says...
6:43pm Thu 18 Mar 10

towncryer wrote:
Believe that Cllr Steve Guy is the Lib Dem Parliamentary Candidate also. We need to give the Tories locally a fright and vote in some real opposition !! We need to be voting Lib Dem this time -- That will rattle Hayes ,Clarke and their Tory cronies!!
Hear hear Town Cryer. Let's hope this makes all the idiots who vote this lot in on block think again.
There are alternatives to the Tories if people can be bothered to look!

weyfarer says...
6:46pm Thu 18 Mar 10

Wanda Brown wrote:
I concur with all of the above. No more Tory voting from me. Oh look at that password, 'soon-beat'. I certainly hope so! Anyone living in Hazlemere should get themselves to the community centre tonight for the Residents Associations' last meeting before we go in front of the planning committee next Thurs 24th. Meeting at 7.30.
Wanda, I really hope that Hazlemere gets the result that it really wants, I also hope that Tory block-voters won't have short memories at the elections next year, doesn't one of your 'local' councillors live in Saunderton? Makes you wonder how things end up the way they do.

Wanda Brown says...
11:25pm Thu 18 Mar 10

Wanda Brown wrote:
I concur with all of the above. No more Tory voting from me. Oh look at that password, 'soon-beat'. I certainly hope so! Anyone living in Hazlemere should get themselves to the community centre tonight for the Residents Associations' last meeting before we go in front of the planning committee next Thurs 24th. Meeting at 7.30.
Sorry, Planning Committee Meeting for the track is Wednesday 24th at 6.30 in the council offices in Wycombe.

Wanda Brown says...
11:33pm Thu 18 Mar 10

weyfarer wrote:
Wanda Brown wrote: I concur with all of the above. No more Tory voting from me. Oh look at that password, 'soon-beat'. I certainly hope so! Anyone living in Hazlemere should get themselves to the community centre tonight for the Residents Associations' last meeting before we go in front of the planning committee next Thurs 24th. Meeting at 7.30.
Wanda, I really hope that Hazlemere gets the result that it really wants, I also hope that Tory block-voters won't have short memories at the elections next year, doesn't one of your 'local' councillors live in Saunderton? Makes you wonder how things end up the way they do.
Thankyou weyfarer. One of our councillors told me to my face last May that he knew nothing about this stadium, only that it would be an all weather training track and nothing more, no lights, nothing, just running for the school and practice for Phoenix Harriers! Well surprise, surprise, it was actually he who proposed the site for the athletics stadium. He is on the board of govenors at SWR, he is our local councillor and a county councillor. We didn't stand a chance with a lying toe-rag like him. I'll never trust him again and he certainly will never get my vote again. We're still fighting and we had a very productive Residents Association meeting this evening. We haven't lost yet.

MCarey says...
9:33am Fri 19 Mar 10

name and shame Wanda please, who is it

stephan says...
11:30am Fri 19 Mar 10

i voted lib dem and im glad i did this council is s--t thay put council tax up for the second time in a reseshion take my advice the best way to get back at them is to stop paying i wont be there not pi--ing my money up the wall i never go to football

towncryer says...
1:49pm Fri 19 Mar 10

stephan wrote:
i voted lib dem and im glad i did this council is s--t thay put council tax up for the second time in a reseshion take my advice the best way to get back at them is to stop paying i wont be there not pi--ing my money up the wall i never go to football
I will be voting Lib Dem in -- Cant trust the Tories

Steve Guy is the Lib Dem Parliamentary candidate i believe? He is getting my vote

Haven't heard a thing from the Tory candidate on this issue and don't expect too - Seems he is being guided by Cllr Cllarke !! now there's a reason to avoid him !!!

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