Southampton beat the transfer deadline to sign Toby Alderweireld and Sadio Mane

Toby Alderweireld

Sadio Mane

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Saints beat the transfer deadline by a whisker last night to complete a major double swoop, signing defender Toby Alderweireld and winger Sadio Mane.

The club finalised both deals right at the very last moment, taking their spending for the summer close to £60m and giving their squad a significant boost going into the rest of the season.

Saints also kept hold of Morgan Schneiderlin and Jay Rodriguez, despite interest from Tottenham in both players, making it a fine deadline day for them.

Belgium international Alderweireld, who can play at right-back or centre-half, joined on a season-long loan from Atletico Madrid, with an option to buy next summer for a fee believed to be €8m (£6.3m).

Senegalese star Mane signed a four-year contract, after Saints paid £10m to Red Bull Salzburg for the winger’s services.

Alderweireld revealed it was Saints boss Ronald Koeman who had persuaded him to move to the club.

“I had a good talk with the coach,” he told the club's website. “First of all, it was very important for me to play this season and the coach gave me a good solution for that.

“The trainer likes how I play and really wanted me to come here, which is what convinced me to come. I really wanted a trainer that believes in me, because that’s important.”

Koeman added: “He is a strong defender, and is also very good at building up the play when we play out from the back.

“He played in the top league in Spain and against top teams in Europe, so he has a lot of confidence and experience, and he has a big future because he is still young.”

On Mane, Koeman said: “Right from the first meeting I had with Les Reed, when it was clear that we would have to change a lot, Sadio was on our list of potential players.

“I know the player because last season Ajax Amsterdam played against Red Bull Salzburg in Europe, and I saw him playing and I was impressed with his qualities and with the physicality that he showed.

“He can play in different positions in the attack – he can play on the left or right side and also as a number nine. It is incredible how many goals he has scored from his position, and I hope that he will do the same for us.

Basingstoke Gazette:

“With the way that we play and the fact that I know him very well, this is a good step forward for him.”

The arrivals represent a coup for the club, who had identified them as their top two targets heading into the final stages of the window, and they are believed to have beaten stiff competition from elsewhere to sign them.

Saints have now added eight players to their first-team squad in the transfer market this summer, at a combined cost of nearly £60m.

Alderweireld and Mane join Fraser Forster, Florin Gardos, Ryan Bertrand, Dusan Tadic, Shane Long and Graziano Pelle at the club.

The board are confident that those captures, combined with what they already had in place, will fill the void left by the departures of Rickie Lambert, Luke Shaw, Adam Lallana, Dejan Lovren and Calum Chambers.

As well as seeing two new arrivals, Saints fans could also celebrate the news that another duo, Schneiderlin and Rodriguez, stayed put.

Tottenham had been interested in both players and, although they had effectively given up hope of signing Schneiderlin, they did make a big push yesterday for Rodriguez.

Spurs are understood to have made multiple attempts at striking a deal, including a cash-plus-Andros Townsend package, but were consistently rebuffed by the Saints board.

Saints also kept hold of midfielder Jack Cork, despite interest from a number of clubs, such as Crystal Palace and Swansea.

Cork is entering the final year of his contract, and no new deal is in the pipeline, but Koeman sees him as a valuable squad player for the season ahead.

Artur Boruc also remained at the club, despite Saints having been willing to part ways with him, after Forster came in as the new number one.

Boruc has not been involved in any of the matchday squads this season, but Koeman said his situation would be reassessed if he remained at St Mary’s after the deadline.

There were some outgoings, though, with Gaston Ramirez joining Hull and Jos Hooiveld moving to Norwich, both on season-long loans, while Jack Stephens moved to Swindon until the end of January and Saphir Taider's loan spell was, as expected, terminated early.

Alderweireld began his professional career at Ajax, making 185 appearances for the Dutch giants and winning three successive Eredevisie titles, from 2011 to 2013.

Atletico Madrid signed him last summer for a fee of about £6m, with the defender agreeing a four-year deal at the Spanish side.

He was part of the team that won the La Liga title last season, but made just 12 appearances in the competition, and 22 in total.

Alderweireld has been capped nearly 40 times for Belgium, and made four appearances in this summer’s World Cup, helping his country reach the quarter-finals.

Mane began his career with French side Metz, coming through the academy system.

He made his first-team debut in the 2011/12 season and, after two impressive campaigns, he was signed by Austrian club Red Bull Salzburg.

Mane has made 88 appearances for the team, with an outstanding return of 46 goals.

He has been capped 15 times for the Senegal national side, while he also represented his country at the 2012 Olympic Games.

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6:10am Tue 2 Sep 14

aldermoorboy says...

Good season ahead
Good season ahead aldermoorboy
  • Score: 24

6:11am Tue 2 Sep 14

Alicesdad says...

New team - and already eighth.

The only was is up.

Ron has truly built a new tam, HIS team. Few managers get that chance so quickly, all credit this season will be to Ron.
New team - and already eighth. The only was is up. Ron has truly built a new tam, HIS team. Few managers get that chance so quickly, all credit this season will be to Ron. Alicesdad
  • Score: 64

6:12am Tue 2 Sep 14

Alicesdad says...

I like these two players, even before I met them I liked them, you hate them compared to how much I like them
I like these two players, even before I met them I liked them, you hate them compared to how much I like them Alicesdad
  • Score: 27

6:13am Tue 2 Sep 14

Norwegian Saint says...

Great deals.
Sad to see the Hoover go and hope Ramirez gets his 1st team football.
Lambert, Shaw, Lielanna, Lov(himself)ron, Chambers have been replaced with quality. Give them time to gel and we still have a very bright future... and finish above the Spuds, ManU and Liverhampton!
Great deals. Sad to see the Hoover go and hope Ramirez gets his 1st team football. Lambert, Shaw, Lielanna, Lov(himself)ron, Chambers have been replaced with quality. Give them time to gel and we still have a very bright future... and finish above the Spuds, ManU and Liverhampton! Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 62

6:14am Tue 2 Sep 14

redandy10 says...

Two exciting signings. Ron IS and WILL continue to deliver!!!
Two exciting signings. Ron IS and WILL continue to deliver!!! redandy10
  • Score: 44

6:20am Tue 2 Sep 14

StVietnam says...

A solid defence, that can play the ball out, backed up by a world class goalkeeper. The midfield industry of Wanyama and JWP, the pace and guile of Tadic and Mane feeding into our increasingly prolific attack. Sorry Lallana you wouldn't get in our team now.
A solid defence, that can play the ball out, backed up by a world class goalkeeper. The midfield industry of Wanyama and JWP, the pace and guile of Tadic and Mane feeding into our increasingly prolific attack. Sorry Lallana you wouldn't get in our team now. StVietnam
  • Score: 115

6:23am Tue 2 Sep 14

Norwegian Saint says...

Even with these 2 fantastic pieces of business I think the best deal was keeping Morgan. His interview saying how lucky he was to be a footballer was tremendous and he is now a true Saint legend.
Also happy to see Jack and J-Rod stay but surprised to see Artur not move on (loan move to a Championship side?)
Once this team gels together we will be marching on for years to come!
Even with these 2 fantastic pieces of business I think the best deal was keeping Morgan. His interview saying how lucky he was to be a footballer was tremendous and he is now a true Saint legend. Also happy to see Jack and J-Rod stay but surprised to see Artur not move on (loan move to a Championship side?) Once this team gels together we will be marching on for years to come! Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 79

6:29am Tue 2 Sep 14

saintand266 says...

I'd like to apologise to les reed .A couple of times I have called you useles reed and now I think that might turn out to be unfair .
When you look at the players brought in we arguably have a better squad than last season and also we are the club who has spent least money when you take into account money in and out , and we are left with 30 million , enough to pay for the new academy .
Well done to the board
I'd like to apologise to les reed .A couple of times I have called you useles reed and now I think that might turn out to be unfair . When you look at the players brought in we arguably have a better squad than last season and also we are the club who has spent least money when you take into account money in and out , and we are left with 30 million , enough to pay for the new academy . Well done to the board saintand266
  • Score: 140

6:41am Tue 2 Sep 14

InCortesewetrust says...

he plays on the left he plays on the right , sadio mane ,,,,,he makes lallana look sh!te!
he plays on the left he plays on the right , sadio mane ,,,,,he makes lallana look sh!te! InCortesewetrust
  • Score: 71

6:44am Tue 2 Sep 14

InCortesewetrust says...

he plays on the left,he playes on the riiiiiiiight, sadio mane,he makes lallana look a!te!
he plays on the left,he playes on the riiiiiiiight, sadio mane,he makes lallana look a!te! InCortesewetrust
  • Score: 10

6:53am Tue 2 Sep 14

THE12THMAN says...

Two great additions to the squad, would just like to thank everyone at the club for delivering the goods, and we kept Morgan and Jay, I bet the journalists who said the club was in meltdown are gutted, especially that what's his name from the Daily Mail.
Two great additions to the squad, would just like to thank everyone at the club for delivering the goods, and we kept Morgan and Jay, I bet the journalists who said the club was in meltdown are gutted, especially that what's his name from the Daily Mail. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 70

6:53am Tue 2 Sep 14

andoru says...

Have to put my hands up and admit I was one of those who panicked two months ago. I don't apologise for that, given what was going on, but I do accept I was wrong. We have a solid squad now, arguably even stronger than last year in terms of depth. If they can gel, I can see us having a very good season and finishing where we did last season.

A little disappointed to see Ramirez go as I think he makes a useful substitute (remember his impact against West Brom at home last season), but I can also see that it's a fair deal for all concerned.

Relieved to see Hoover off, but also grateful for all his work for us over the past few years. He was great for us in the Championship and was seemingly a popular squad member. Shame he couldn't quite step up to the top level, but wish him all the best at Norwich.

Here's to a fantastic 2014-15. COYS.
Have to put my hands up and admit I was one of those who panicked two months ago. I don't apologise for that, given what was going on, but I do accept I was wrong. We have a solid squad now, arguably even stronger than last year in terms of depth. If they can gel, I can see us having a very good season and finishing where we did last season. A little disappointed to see Ramirez go as I think he makes a useful substitute (remember his impact against West Brom at home last season), but I can also see that it's a fair deal for all concerned. Relieved to see Hoover off, but also grateful for all his work for us over the past few years. He was great for us in the Championship and was seemingly a popular squad member. Shame he couldn't quite step up to the top level, but wish him all the best at Norwich. Here's to a fantastic 2014-15. COYS. andoru
  • Score: 70

6:54am Tue 2 Sep 14

Saintsincethe60s says...

They said to judge them on the team at the close of the window, well I am prepared to say job well done the season ahead looks exciting with players who want to be here.
We will not miss the deserters
They said to judge them on the team at the close of the window, well I am prepared to say job well done the season ahead looks exciting with players who want to be here. We will not miss the deserters Saintsincethe60s
  • Score: 59

6:57am Tue 2 Sep 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

I want to thank Katherina for re-investing the money, proving her intent on improving our team through these deals, and the acumen demonstrated by the board and Koeman for scooping these players up right out of the clutches of some more 'prominent' clubs. You deserve some positive feedback for getting some quality players in and coming out tops financially.
I want to thank Katherina for re-investing the money, proving her intent on improving our team through these deals, and the acumen demonstrated by the board and Koeman for scooping these players up right out of the clutches of some more 'prominent' clubs. You deserve some positive feedback for getting some quality players in and coming out tops financially. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 124

6:57am Tue 2 Sep 14

COYR07 says...

So pleased with these 2 signings and keeping hold of MS, JC and JR. The squad appears to be stronger than last year and RK can now gel his team to deliver great things. I was really worried about what happened at the beginning however the board asked us to judge them and the squad by the end of the transfer window. I am very happy and have to say well done Les Reed, Ralph and thank you to KL for continuing to back our great football team.
So pleased with these 2 signings and keeping hold of MS, JC and JR. The squad appears to be stronger than last year and RK can now gel his team to deliver great things. I was really worried about what happened at the beginning however the board asked us to judge them and the squad by the end of the transfer window. I am very happy and have to say well done Les Reed, Ralph and thank you to KL for continuing to back our great football team. COYR07
  • Score: 71

7:02am Tue 2 Sep 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

StVietnam wrote:
A solid defence, that can play the ball out, backed up by a world class goalkeeper. The midfield industry of Wanyama and JWP, the pace and guile of Tadic and Mane feeding into our increasingly prolific attack. Sorry Lallana you wouldn't get in our team now.
Who's Lallana?
[quote][p][bold]StVietnam[/bold] wrote: A solid defence, that can play the ball out, backed up by a world class goalkeeper. The midfield industry of Wanyama and JWP, the pace and guile of Tadic and Mane feeding into our increasingly prolific attack. Sorry Lallana you wouldn't get in our team now.[/p][/quote]Who's Lallana? KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 46

7:03am Tue 2 Sep 14

garyom71 says...

StVietnam wrote:
A solid defence, that can play the ball out, backed up by a world class goalkeeper. The midfield industry of Wanyama and JWP, the pace and guile of Tadic and Mane feeding into our increasingly prolific attack. Sorry Lallana you wouldn't get in our team now.
Agreed with everything you said, up until prolific attack. This area of the team still remains my one concern. Hopefully goals throughout the team will be enough to dispel this concern. COYR
[quote][p][bold]StVietnam[/bold] wrote: A solid defence, that can play the ball out, backed up by a world class goalkeeper. The midfield industry of Wanyama and JWP, the pace and guile of Tadic and Mane feeding into our increasingly prolific attack. Sorry Lallana you wouldn't get in our team now.[/p][/quote]Agreed with everything you said, up until prolific attack. This area of the team still remains my one concern. Hopefully goals throughout the team will be enough to dispel this concern. COYR garyom71
  • Score: 8

7:03am Tue 2 Sep 14

Buddy SFC says...

If Carling made transfer days ........... 2 quality new additions and JRod, Corkie and Morgan stay put !!!

Well done RonKon and Les ................ As I said 2 months ago, lets see what the papers are saying about SFC and their sensible business and the ex England players all sat on the bench.

A great window for Saints , a crap one for England ....................
If Carling made transfer days ........... 2 quality new additions and JRod, Corkie and Morgan stay put !!! Well done RonKon and Les ................ As I said 2 months ago, lets see what the papers are saying about SFC and their sensible business and the ex England players all sat on the bench. A great window for Saints , a crap one for England .................... Buddy SFC
  • Score: 49

7:07am Tue 2 Sep 14

Jonny7oma says...

Surprised and yet not surprised at Gaston going. I think most people really wanted him to succeed but in the end, he never did it consistantly. I have absolutely no idea what these two new players are like so we will have to wait and see but so far, bar Taider, all Koemans signings have looked good. Pelle was always going to have the hardest task, scoring goals in the premiership and replacing Lambert but if he can weigh in with 16 or more goals a season then he'll be doing well.
And we've still got Rodriquez on the bench (so to speak).
Surprised and yet not surprised at Gaston going. I think most people really wanted him to succeed but in the end, he never did it consistantly. I have absolutely no idea what these two new players are like so we will have to wait and see but so far, bar Taider, all Koemans signings have looked good. Pelle was always going to have the hardest task, scoring goals in the premiership and replacing Lambert but if he can weigh in with 16 or more goals a season then he'll be doing well. And we've still got Rodriquez on the bench (so to speak). Jonny7oma
  • Score: 28

7:09am Tue 2 Sep 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

Jonny7oma wrote:
Surprised and yet not surprised at Gaston going. I think most people really wanted him to succeed but in the end, he never did it consistantly. I have absolutely no idea what these two new players are like so we will have to wait and see but so far, bar Taider, all Koemans signings have looked good. Pelle was always going to have the hardest task, scoring goals in the premiership and replacing Lambert but if he can weigh in with 16 or more goals a season then he'll be doing well.
And we've still got Rodriquez on the bench (so to speak).
How good is Gardos?
[quote][p][bold]Jonny7oma[/bold] wrote: Surprised and yet not surprised at Gaston going. I think most people really wanted him to succeed but in the end, he never did it consistantly. I have absolutely no idea what these two new players are like so we will have to wait and see but so far, bar Taider, all Koemans signings have looked good. Pelle was always going to have the hardest task, scoring goals in the premiership and replacing Lambert but if he can weigh in with 16 or more goals a season then he'll be doing well. And we've still got Rodriquez on the bench (so to speak).[/p][/quote]How good is Gardos? KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 8

7:11am Tue 2 Sep 14

garyom71 says...

Clever business for Gaston. If he does well at Hull, we will hopefully reap the rewards either by playing him in the future or preserving his transfer fee for any future sale. If he does not do so well, then we will have perhaps avoided another season by trying to integrate him into our squad, with it failing.
Clever business for Gaston. If he does well at Hull, we will hopefully reap the rewards either by playing him in the future or preserving his transfer fee for any future sale. If he does not do so well, then we will have perhaps avoided another season by trying to integrate him into our squad, with it failing. garyom71
  • Score: 27

7:13am Tue 2 Sep 14

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

CO Y R . The future looks GOOD, after SUMMER of despair . Lets now enjoy the SEASON.
CO Y R . The future looks GOOD, after SUMMER of despair . Lets now enjoy the SEASON. SPIKEISLANDTRADER
  • Score: 18

7:15am Tue 2 Sep 14

garyom71 says...

Buddy SFC wrote:
If Carling made transfer days ........... 2 quality new additions and JRod, Corkie and Morgan stay put !!!

Well done RonKon and Les ................ As I said 2 months ago, lets see what the papers are saying about SFC and their sensible business and the ex England players all sat on the bench.

A great window for Saints , a crap one for England ....................
Would be even better if Carlsberg made it then....
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: If Carling made transfer days ........... 2 quality new additions and JRod, Corkie and Morgan stay put !!! Well done RonKon and Les ................ As I said 2 months ago, lets see what the papers are saying about SFC and their sensible business and the ex England players all sat on the bench. A great window for Saints , a crap one for England ....................[/p][/quote]Would be even better if Carlsberg made it then.... garyom71
  • Score: 10

7:15am Tue 2 Sep 14

KSO16R says...

Fair to say the board at sfc know a lot more about running a premier league football club than any of the posters on here and indeed most of the journalists reporting on our club over the summer.
Fair to say the board at sfc know a lot more about running a premier league football club than any of the posters on here and indeed most of the journalists reporting on our club over the summer. KSO16R
  • Score: 88

7:15am Tue 2 Sep 14

Saint Clements says...

I think it's only right and proper to say that yesterday our Board played an absolute blinder!

Toby looks one of the buys of the season. By any club. In fact, it's not too much to use the word coup, I man, he played in the last Champions League final for goodness sakes, as well as reaching the World Cup quarters.

Mane I know less about, but apparently City have been all over him for a while, and he's certainly the right age and plays in a fluid way given the number of positions he can occupy.

Lastly, and most importantly, Ralph showed he's a man of substance (a rare thing in the footballing world, by sticking to his guns over Morgan.

All in all, the best day our club has had for quite some time.
I think it's only right and proper to say that yesterday our Board played an absolute blinder! Toby looks one of the buys of the season. By any club. In fact, it's not too much to use the word coup, I man, he played in the last Champions League final for goodness sakes, as well as reaching the World Cup quarters. Mane I know less about, but apparently City have been all over him for a while, and he's certainly the right age and plays in a fluid way given the number of positions he can occupy. Lastly, and most importantly, Ralph showed he's a man of substance (a rare thing in the footballing world, by sticking to his guns over Morgan. All in all, the best day our club has had for quite some time. Saint Clements
  • Score: 80

7:20am Tue 2 Sep 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Now we are talking, Les looks like you got there in the end !

Biggest plus is keeping Morgan, Jay & Jack.

Not sure why Toby is just a loan, probably ran out of time to do a permanent deal. However he looks to be a quality CB and cover at RB giving RonKo options of playing a back three, the right age two.

I don't know enough about Sadio Mane and hope he is not another Mayuka, but if he can step up to the premiership then we may have solved two positions (Winger & Goalscorer) with one player.

Sad to see Gaston leave but he needs to be playing every week now. However there has to be questions as to why £25m was spent on two players yet we are unable to sell them, both on loan with their values falling whilst other teams get the benifit of them. Just hope we have not bought any more like them and Mayuka.
Good move away for Hoover and RonKo didn't like Taider, so delt with.


This is now Ronald Koeman's team and finally it now looks to be as strong, possibly stronger than last seasons if all the new players do well.

The only mistakes were not keeping Chambers then selling at too cheaply, plus paying double what Shane Long is worth, so it does not seem to have turned out to bad after all.

They now need to settle down as a team and prove they are better than last seasons by finishing at least 7th.

Come on you Saints, two steps back but hopefully three forward which is where we hoped to be heading last Easter.
Now we are talking, Les looks like you got there in the end ! Biggest plus is keeping Morgan, Jay & Jack. Not sure why Toby is just a loan, probably ran out of time to do a permanent deal. However he looks to be a quality CB and cover at RB giving RonKo options of playing a back three, the right age two. I don't know enough about Sadio Mane and hope he is not another Mayuka, but if he can step up to the premiership then we may have solved two positions (Winger & Goalscorer) with one player. Sad to see Gaston leave but he needs to be playing every week now. However there has to be questions as to why £25m was spent on two players yet we are unable to sell them, both on loan with their values falling whilst other teams get the benifit of them. Just hope we have not bought any more like them and Mayuka. Good move away for Hoover and RonKo didn't like Taider, so delt with. This is now Ronald Koeman's team and finally it now looks to be as strong, possibly stronger than last seasons if all the new players do well. The only mistakes were not keeping Chambers then selling at too cheaply, plus paying double what Shane Long is worth, so it does not seem to have turned out to bad after all. They now need to settle down as a team and prove they are better than last seasons by finishing at least 7th. Come on you Saints, two steps back but hopefully three forward which is where we hoped to be heading last Easter. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: -12

7:24am Tue 2 Sep 14

maybush saint says...

In Ron, Les and Kat we trust. I believe we now have a much stronger squad than last season! COYR
In Ron, Les and Kat we trust. I believe we now have a much stronger squad than last season! COYR maybush saint
  • Score: 27

7:31am Tue 2 Sep 14

wellow saint says...

Would be nice to see Jack Corke get a contract as the icing on the cake
Would be nice to see Jack Corke get a contract as the icing on the cake wellow saint
  • Score: 52

7:33am Tue 2 Sep 14

Confucious says...

I declare the negativity season closed.
I declare the negativity season closed. Confucious
  • Score: 75

7:38am Tue 2 Sep 14

Stokesofdublin says...

Have to happy with summer signings and, especially, keeping Morgan - also JRod and Jack. Hope Ramirez and Jos do well - Jos in particular has been a great servant to the club. Hats off to the board and owners. Now Koeman has his own team. Looking forward to seeing the new signings (quickly) settle in and gel. Let's get some points on the board.
Have to happy with summer signings and, especially, keeping Morgan - also JRod and Jack. Hope Ramirez and Jos do well - Jos in particular has been a great servant to the club. Hats off to the board and owners. Now Koeman has his own team. Looking forward to seeing the new signings (quickly) settle in and gel. Let's get some points on the board. Stokesofdublin
  • Score: 19

7:39am Tue 2 Sep 14

the Newmarket Saint says...

Well done Ron and the team, just what we needed we will have a great season now but give the new boys time to settle in, this is a team for the future plus the youngsters waiting in the wings, I will definatley be comming down for the Newcastle game COYR +WS
Well done Ron and the team, just what we needed we will have a great season now but give the new boys time to settle in, this is a team for the future plus the youngsters waiting in the wings, I will definatley be comming down for the Newcastle game COYR +WS the Newmarket Saint
  • Score: 16

7:41am Tue 2 Sep 14

bstokesaint says...

Well, well so Ralph has truly delivered on his promises to keep Morgan and J-Rod and bolster the squad "by Sep 1st" (possibly even strengthen it - depending on the unknown quanities), whilst it would appear finding the cash to clear any monies owing from previous transfer purchases and other debts amassed under Cortese. I think it would be fitting at this point for all of those who have levelled mindless insults at the chairman, owner and Les Read to retract their comments and admit there has never been anything but good intention from these parties. For me RK has shown he has a proper backbone after all and has done some great business for the club financially whilst taking away nothing in the way of excitement from the pitch. There is no reason now why we can't keep pushing upwards.
Well, well so Ralph has truly delivered on his promises to keep Morgan and J-Rod and bolster the squad "by Sep 1st" (possibly even strengthen it - depending on the unknown quanities), whilst it would appear finding the cash to clear any monies owing from previous transfer purchases and other debts amassed under Cortese. I think it would be fitting at this point for all of those who have levelled mindless insults at the chairman, owner and Les Read to retract their comments and admit there has never been anything but good intention from these parties. For me RK has shown he has a proper backbone after all and has done some great business for the club financially whilst taking away nothing in the way of excitement from the pitch. There is no reason now why we can't keep pushing upwards. bstokesaint
  • Score: 53

7:45am Tue 2 Sep 14

HighcliffeSaint44 says...

We went and beat the Hammers on a Saturday...
Da do Ron,da do Ron Ron.
We shafted Pochetino on the transfer day.....
Da do Ron,da do Ron Ron
We went and beat the Hammers on a Saturday... Da do Ron,da do Ron Ron. We shafted Pochetino on the transfer day..... Da do Ron,da do Ron Ron HighcliffeSaint44
  • Score: 41

7:46am Tue 2 Sep 14

Mush On The Beach says...

Confucious wrote:
I declare the negativity season closed.
I’m not happy.
Why do FIFA introduce an international break at such a ridiculous time when we have just built a premiership squad ready to have the big boys quaking in their boots ..... Again.

As for Spurs, I think the board should come out and make a unequivocal statement along the lines that we would rather trade with Beelzebub than you, so don’t come back any time soon.

Welcome to the Saints family, Toby Alderweireld and Sadio Mane.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: I declare the negativity season closed.[/p][/quote]I’m not happy. Why do FIFA introduce an international break at such a ridiculous time when we have just built a premiership squad ready to have the big boys quaking in their boots ..... Again. As for Spurs, I think the board should come out and make a unequivocal statement along the lines that we would rather trade with Beelzebub than you, so don’t come back any time soon. Welcome to the Saints family, Toby Alderweireld and Sadio Mane. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 35

7:55am Tue 2 Sep 14

Blandford Saints says...

Good business all round. Maybe paid too much for some, but got silly money in for most.

Would like to see Jack Cork signed up and still unclear from different reports if Alderweireld comes with option to buy. Would hate to see him perform and we have to give him back or someone else signs him next summer.
Good business all round. Maybe paid too much for some, but got silly money in for most. Would like to see Jack Cork signed up and still unclear from different reports if Alderweireld comes with option to buy. Would hate to see him perform and we have to give him back or someone else signs him next summer. Blandford Saints
  • Score: 13

7:55am Tue 2 Sep 14

Brusher Mills says...

You do Ron, Ron, Ron. you do Ron, Ron, Yeaaahghhh
You do Ron, Ron, Ron. you do Ron, Ron, Yeaaahghhh Brusher Mills
  • Score: 16

7:56am Tue 2 Sep 14

Blackknight says...

Looks like two quality additions to the Saints squad.

Koeman has clearly done a great job both off the field in persuading the players he has recruited to join Saints and on the field in getting the players to jell together quickly and playing some attractive passing football.

Surprised Ramirez has gone to Hull, but well pleased we were able to hang on to Schneiderlin and Rodriguez.

I'm full of optimism now, and looking forward to seeing where Saints sit in the table by Xmas when all the players have had a decent amount of time to play together, and Koeman has implemented his playing philosophy.

With Rodriguez due back in a couple of months or so Saints are going to be a force to be reckoned with.
Looks like two quality additions to the Saints squad. Koeman has clearly done a great job both off the field in persuading the players he has recruited to join Saints and on the field in getting the players to jell together quickly and playing some attractive passing football. Surprised Ramirez has gone to Hull, but well pleased we were able to hang on to Schneiderlin and Rodriguez. I'm full of optimism now, and looking forward to seeing where Saints sit in the table by Xmas when all the players have had a decent amount of time to play together, and Koeman has implemented his playing philosophy. With Rodriguez due back in a couple of months or so Saints are going to be a force to be reckoned with. Blackknight
  • Score: 21

8:04am Tue 2 Sep 14

redsnapper says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
Confucious wrote:
I declare the negativity season closed.
I’m not happy.
Why do FIFA introduce an international break at such a ridiculous time when we have just built a premiership squad ready to have the big boys quaking in their boots ..... Again.

As for Spurs, I think the board should come out and make a unequivocal statement along the lines that we would rather trade with Beelzebub than you, so don’t come back any time soon.

Welcome to the Saints family, Toby Alderweireld and Sadio Mane.
Fully agree. These internationals and all the hype which goes along with the totally s*** Ingerlund outfit is unwanted by most. I don't know who goes to Wembley to watch the rubbish it must be people from Essex with no club affiliations.

And the point about Spurs is well made, but any player of ours has probably already realised there is more to Ronko than whatever his name was.

COYR..a stronger team now!!
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: I declare the negativity season closed.[/p][/quote]I’m not happy. Why do FIFA introduce an international break at such a ridiculous time when we have just built a premiership squad ready to have the big boys quaking in their boots ..... Again. As for Spurs, I think the board should come out and make a unequivocal statement along the lines that we would rather trade with Beelzebub than you, so don’t come back any time soon. Welcome to the Saints family, Toby Alderweireld and Sadio Mane.[/p][/quote]Fully agree. These internationals and all the hype which goes along with the totally s*** Ingerlund outfit is unwanted by most. I don't know who goes to Wembley to watch the rubbish it must be people from Essex with no club affiliations. And the point about Spurs is well made, but any player of ours has probably already realised there is more to Ronko than whatever his name was. COYR..a stronger team now!! redsnapper
  • Score: 15

8:06am Tue 2 Sep 14

warrens 76 says...

Roger me sideways and call me a badger, Tadic and Forster are nailed on success's…Pelle probably, Gardos we have not seen yet, I have seen Mane and what a handful…the defence is absolutely stronger than last two years now…never thought I would say that..

I have been sick as a parrot over the summer becuase of what at the time 'was' the wholesale and unprecedented destruction of much of our team with no obvious plan…

..for those who had in hindsight 'justifiable' blind faith well done but seriously if your missus went out every night and came in the early hours, told you several things that at the time clearly did not add up then tell me you would not be very concerned, the fact she has taken a secret part time job and working for your interest would not stop the doubt at the time..

I digress, last year our possession was a joy to behold but it would be naive to ignore the lack of cutting edge and the nervouseness when we had to play Hooiveld

…Boruc out and we lost almost every time so as he stays as well happy days.

Long was identified long ago as fitted to our style so who can tell if this is wrong or right yet.

Ramirez and Osvaldo never delivered Pelle already has..so even this Saints fan can see that the complaints of last year have been seriously addressed.

One thing I do like is that when we play our style has not changed meaning to the team ethic and style remains, perhaps therefore some of the the players who left 'where' made to look good by the collective…

All in all if this works it will work big I see no middle ground we will either flatter to deceive because of the Spam result or the peices will all fit (looks likely) and we wil keep the best of last year and dispose of the worst and that could be (referee's aside as we are not favored ilk e the brand clubs) +16 points on last year.
Roger me sideways and call me a badger, Tadic and Forster are nailed on success's…Pelle probably, Gardos we have not seen yet, I have seen Mane and what a handful…the defence is absolutely stronger than last two years now…never thought I would say that.. I have been sick as a parrot over the summer becuase of what at the time 'was' the wholesale and unprecedented destruction of much of our team with no obvious plan… ..for those who had in hindsight 'justifiable' blind faith well done but seriously if your missus went out every night and came in the early hours, told you several things that at the time clearly did not add up then tell me you would not be very concerned, the fact she has taken a secret part time job and working for your interest would not stop the doubt at the time.. I digress, last year our possession was a joy to behold but it would be naive to ignore the lack of cutting edge and the nervouseness when we had to play Hooiveld …Boruc out and we lost almost every time so as he stays as well happy days. Long was identified long ago as fitted to our style so who can tell if this is wrong or right yet. Ramirez and Osvaldo never delivered Pelle already has..so even this Saints fan can see that the complaints of last year have been seriously addressed. One thing I do like is that when we play our style has not changed meaning to the team ethic and style remains, perhaps therefore some of the the players who left 'where' made to look good by the collective… All in all if this works it will work big I see no middle ground we will either flatter to deceive because of the Spam result or the peices will all fit (looks likely) and we wil keep the best of last year and dispose of the worst and that could be (referee's aside as we are not favored ilk e the brand clubs) +16 points on last year. warrens 76
  • Score: 31

8:11am Tue 2 Sep 14

ItalianSaint says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
Confucious wrote:
I declare the negativity season closed.
I’m not happy.
Why do FIFA introduce an international break at such a ridiculous time when we have just built a premiership squad ready to have the big boys quaking in their boots ..... Again.

As for Spurs, I think the board should come out and make a unequivocal statement along the lines that we would rather trade with Beelzebub than you, so don’t come back any time soon.

Welcome to the Saints family, Toby Alderweireld and Sadio Mane.
At least the International break will give the team time together on the training ground before the take Newcastle apart!
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: I declare the negativity season closed.[/p][/quote]I’m not happy. Why do FIFA introduce an international break at such a ridiculous time when we have just built a premiership squad ready to have the big boys quaking in their boots ..... Again. As for Spurs, I think the board should come out and make a unequivocal statement along the lines that we would rather trade with Beelzebub than you, so don’t come back any time soon. Welcome to the Saints family, Toby Alderweireld and Sadio Mane.[/p][/quote]At least the International break will give the team time together on the training ground before the take Newcastle apart! ItalianSaint
  • Score: 10

8:11am Tue 2 Sep 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Roger me sideways and call me a badger, Tadic and Forster are nailed on success's…Pelle probably, Gardos we have not seen yet, I have seen Mane and what a handful…the defence is absolutely stronger than last two years now…never thought I would say that..

I have been sick as a parrot over the summer becuase of what at the time 'was' the wholesale and unprecedented destruction of much of our team with no obvious plan…

..for those who had in hindsight 'justifiable' blind faith well done but seriously if your missus went out every night and came in the early hours, told you several things that at the time clearly did not add up then tell me you would not be very concerned, the fact she has taken a secret part time job and working for your interest would not stop the doubt at the time..

I digress, last year our possession was a joy to behold but it would be naive to ignore the lack of cutting edge and the nervouseness when we had to play Hooiveld

…Boruc out and we lost almost every time so as he stays as well happy days.

Long was identified long ago as fitted to our style so who can tell if this is wrong or right yet.

Ramirez and Osvaldo never delivered Pelle already has..so even this Saints fan can see that the complaints of last year have been seriously addressed.

One thing I do like is that when we play our style has not changed meaning to the team ethic and style remains, perhaps therefore some of the the players who left 'where' made to look good by the collective…

All in all if this works it will work big I see no middle ground we will either flatter to deceive because of the Spam result or the peices will all fit (looks likely) and we wil keep the best of last year and dispose of the worst and that could be (referee's aside as we are not favored ilk e the brand clubs) +16 points on last year.
I enjoyed the cheating wife analogy lol
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Roger me sideways and call me a badger, Tadic and Forster are nailed on success's…Pelle probably, Gardos we have not seen yet, I have seen Mane and what a handful…the defence is absolutely stronger than last two years now…never thought I would say that.. I have been sick as a parrot over the summer becuase of what at the time 'was' the wholesale and unprecedented destruction of much of our team with no obvious plan… ..for those who had in hindsight 'justifiable' blind faith well done but seriously if your missus went out every night and came in the early hours, told you several things that at the time clearly did not add up then tell me you would not be very concerned, the fact she has taken a secret part time job and working for your interest would not stop the doubt at the time.. I digress, last year our possession was a joy to behold but it would be naive to ignore the lack of cutting edge and the nervouseness when we had to play Hooiveld …Boruc out and we lost almost every time so as he stays as well happy days. Long was identified long ago as fitted to our style so who can tell if this is wrong or right yet. Ramirez and Osvaldo never delivered Pelle already has..so even this Saints fan can see that the complaints of last year have been seriously addressed. One thing I do like is that when we play our style has not changed meaning to the team ethic and style remains, perhaps therefore some of the the players who left 'where' made to look good by the collective… All in all if this works it will work big I see no middle ground we will either flatter to deceive because of the Spam result or the peices will all fit (looks likely) and we wil keep the best of last year and dispose of the worst and that could be (referee's aside as we are not favored ilk e the brand clubs) +16 points on last year.[/p][/quote]I enjoyed the cheating wife analogy lol KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 8

8:17am Tue 2 Sep 14

Blind Faith Believer says...

Thank you Katherina Liebherr for reinvesting the transfer funds to allow Ronald Koeman to build his own team. Well done to Les Reed for getting these last two deals (despite big competition) over the line and avoiding banana skin signing like Rojo and Townsend along the way. All bar Chambers of the summer sales made sound financial and football sense now that we can see the funds have been invested so wisely. Keeping Morgan was massive - so great leadership from Ralph Krueger for making that stick. We have strengthened in every department, and goal scoring will look a whole lot better once Jayrod is fit again. Second half at West Ham started to show what Ronald Koeman is building towArd, we were strong, fast and played direct style with skill on the ball. Koeman definAtely has a Plan B and will take the cups seriously (he has already stated that he wants silverware within his first 3years). We will definAtely finish in the top 12 this season and if he can get the new guys to gel quickly we could even surpass last years finish. The dark days of July seem an eternity ago!
Come on you Saints
Thank you Katherina Liebherr for reinvesting the transfer funds to allow Ronald Koeman to build his own team. Well done to Les Reed for getting these last two deals (despite big competition) over the line and avoiding banana skin signing like Rojo and Townsend along the way. All bar Chambers of the summer sales made sound financial and football sense now that we can see the funds have been invested so wisely. Keeping Morgan was massive - so great leadership from Ralph Krueger for making that stick. We have strengthened in every department, and goal scoring will look a whole lot better once Jayrod is fit again. Second half at West Ham started to show what Ronald Koeman is building towArd, we were strong, fast and played direct style with skill on the ball. Koeman definAtely has a Plan B and will take the cups seriously (he has already stated that he wants silverware within his first 3years). We will definAtely finish in the top 12 this season and if he can get the new guys to gel quickly we could even surpass last years finish. The dark days of July seem an eternity ago! Come on you Saints Blind Faith Believer
  • Score: 28

8:19am Tue 2 Sep 14

donni1437 says...

Fair play to the board as the cash from sales seems to have strengthened the whole squad and that is the same for the manager. We're still to see a few of the new signings play so hard to tell what sort of quality they are, but on paper a thumbs up for sure. Sad to see hoover go and Gaston never really got a good run going in the team. I believe the board have shown intent and should keep the fans happy this season. My only concern is if we have another successful season and the wolves come knocking again, maybe RK will build his house from brick?
Fair play to the board as the cash from sales seems to have strengthened the whole squad and that is the same for the manager. We're still to see a few of the new signings play so hard to tell what sort of quality they are, but on paper a thumbs up for sure. Sad to see hoover go and Gaston never really got a good run going in the team. I believe the board have shown intent and should keep the fans happy this season. My only concern is if we have another successful season and the wolves come knocking again, maybe RK will build his house from brick? donni1437
  • Score: 7

8:21am Tue 2 Sep 14

fascia123 says...

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
StVietnam wrote:
A solid defence, that can play the ball out, backed up by a world class goalkeeper. The midfield industry of Wanyama and JWP, the pace and guile of Tadic and Mane feeding into our increasingly prolific attack. Sorry Lallana you wouldn't get in our team now.
Who's Lallana?
Not much change for Lieanna then as he won't get in the Liverpool team either.
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StVietnam[/bold] wrote: A solid defence, that can play the ball out, backed up by a world class goalkeeper. The midfield industry of Wanyama and JWP, the pace and guile of Tadic and Mane feeding into our increasingly prolific attack. Sorry Lallana you wouldn't get in our team now.[/p][/quote]Who's Lallana?[/p][/quote]Not much change for Lieanna then as he won't get in the Liverpool team either. fascia123
  • Score: 7

8:28am Tue 2 Sep 14

EricMartin'sHat says...

garyom71 wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
If Carling made transfer days ........... 2 quality new additions and JRod, Corkie and Morgan stay put !!!

Well done RonKon and Les ................ As I said 2 months ago, lets see what the papers are saying about SFC and their sensible business and the ex England players all sat on the bench.

A great window for Saints , a crap one for England ....................
Would be even better if Carlsberg made it then....
hahahahhahhahaaha - brill
[quote][p][bold]garyom71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: If Carling made transfer days ........... 2 quality new additions and JRod, Corkie and Morgan stay put !!! Well done RonKon and Les ................ As I said 2 months ago, lets see what the papers are saying about SFC and their sensible business and the ex England players all sat on the bench. A great window for Saints , a crap one for England ....................[/p][/quote]Would be even better if Carlsberg made it then....[/p][/quote]hahahahhahhahaaha - brill EricMartin'sHat
  • Score: 1

8:35am Tue 2 Sep 14

saintmac says...

I have been critical of the Board in the past but after their sterling efforts over the recent weeks admit that I was wrong.I just wish that they had
explained the situation better at the time.
I think the team is now stronger than before and once they have got to know each other will be a force to be reckoned with.
The most enjoyable deadline day for a long time if a little tense at the end.
I have been critical of the Board in the past but after their sterling efforts over the recent weeks admit that I was wrong.I just wish that they had explained the situation better at the time. I think the team is now stronger than before and once they have got to know each other will be a force to be reckoned with. The most enjoyable deadline day for a long time if a little tense at the end. saintmac
  • Score: 13

8:35am Tue 2 Sep 14

Rising_Son says...

Confucious wrote:
I declare the negativity season closed.
A bit hasty I fear. There are people who will always find/invent something to be negative about. Mind you, for the rest of us, they give us the opportunity to once again count our blessings.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: I declare the negativity season closed.[/p][/quote]A bit hasty I fear. There are people who will always find/invent something to be negative about. Mind you, for the rest of us, they give us the opportunity to once again count our blessings. Rising_Son
  • Score: 6

8:35am Tue 2 Sep 14

jls217 says...

StVietnam wrote:
A solid defence, that can play the ball out, backed up by a world class goalkeeper. The midfield industry of Wanyama and JWP, the pace and guile of Tadic and Mane feeding into our increasingly prolific attack. Sorry Lallana you wouldn't get in our team now.
Y'know I think you might be right - he would have to fight for a place on the bench, only time will tell of course. Something for all to think about there.
[quote][p][bold]StVietnam[/bold] wrote: A solid defence, that can play the ball out, backed up by a world class goalkeeper. The midfield industry of Wanyama and JWP, the pace and guile of Tadic and Mane feeding into our increasingly prolific attack. Sorry Lallana you wouldn't get in our team now.[/p][/quote]Y'know I think you might be right - he would have to fight for a place on the bench, only time will tell of course. Something for all to think about there. jls217
  • Score: 4

8:36am Tue 2 Sep 14

saintthomas says...

donni1437 wrote:
Fair play to the board as the cash from sales seems to have strengthened the whole squad and that is the same for the manager. We're still to see a few of the new signings play so hard to tell what sort of quality they are, but on paper a thumbs up for sure. Sad to see hoover go and Gaston never really got a good run going in the team. I believe the board have shown intent and should keep the fans happy this season. My only concern is if we have another successful season and the wolves come knocking again, maybe RK will build his house from brick?
Good post! Only time will tell!
Our squad Looks really brighter than last season. Why not to be the Club that will surprise the whole PL and battle for a place in Europe? Shame to Lallana and the others, that they not had seen the whole picture of what a force SFC can be in the next five years in English Football!!!
And now there are still money left in the pocket for some more activities in the januar transfer window!
The future is bright! The future is again red and white!!
Up the Saints till i die!!!
[quote][p][bold]donni1437[/bold] wrote: Fair play to the board as the cash from sales seems to have strengthened the whole squad and that is the same for the manager. We're still to see a few of the new signings play so hard to tell what sort of quality they are, but on paper a thumbs up for sure. Sad to see hoover go and Gaston never really got a good run going in the team. I believe the board have shown intent and should keep the fans happy this season. My only concern is if we have another successful season and the wolves come knocking again, maybe RK will build his house from brick?[/p][/quote]Good post! Only time will tell! Our squad Looks really brighter than last season. Why not to be the Club that will surprise the whole PL and battle for a place in Europe? Shame to Lallana and the others, that they not had seen the whole picture of what a force SFC can be in the next five years in English Football!!! And now there are still money left in the pocket for some more activities in the januar transfer window! The future is bright! The future is again red and white!! Up the Saints till i die!!! saintthomas
  • Score: 9

8:37am Tue 2 Sep 14

arthur boutfaith says...

"See, I told you so Chicken Licken" said Mother Hen, " the sky wasn't falling in".
UTS !
"See, I told you so Chicken Licken" said Mother Hen, " the sky wasn't falling in". UTS ! arthur boutfaith
  • Score: 14

8:37am Tue 2 Sep 14

jls217 says...

InCortesewetrust wrote:
he plays on the left he plays on the right , sadio mane ,,,,,he makes lallana look sh!te!
Love it, look forward to hearing it on a freezing Saturday in February mate.
[quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: he plays on the left he plays on the right , sadio mane ,,,,,he makes lallana look sh!te![/p][/quote]Love it, look forward to hearing it on a freezing Saturday in February mate. jls217
  • Score: 2

8:40am Tue 2 Sep 14

fascia123 says...

Possible line up?

Forster

Clyne Toby fonte gardon Bertrand

Tadic spider wanyama mane

Pelle
Possible line up? Forster Clyne Toby fonte gardon Bertrand Tadic spider wanyama mane Pelle fascia123
  • Score: 0

8:42am Tue 2 Sep 14

jls217 says...

KSO16R wrote:
Fair to say the board at sfc know a lot more about running a premier league football club than any of the posters on here and indeed most of the journalists reporting on our club over the summer.
Been trying to say just that for months.
[quote][p][bold]KSO16R[/bold] wrote: Fair to say the board at sfc know a lot more about running a premier league football club than any of the posters on here and indeed most of the journalists reporting on our club over the summer.[/p][/quote]Been trying to say just that for months. jls217
  • Score: 8

8:47am Tue 2 Sep 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

fascia123 wrote:
Possible line up?

Forster

Clyne Toby fonte gardon Bertrand

Tadic spider wanyama mane

Pelle
Never even crossed my mind to incorporate 5-4-1. Nice defensive line. I was thinking maybe a 4-4-2.

Clyne Toby Fonte Bertrand

Tadic Spyder Wanyama Mane

Pelle Long
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: Possible line up? Forster Clyne Toby fonte gardon Bertrand Tadic spider wanyama mane Pelle[/p][/quote]Never even crossed my mind to incorporate 5-4-1. Nice defensive line. I was thinking maybe a 4-4-2. Clyne Toby Fonte Bertrand Tadic Spyder Wanyama Mane Pelle Long KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 5

8:48am Tue 2 Sep 14

elvis says...

Just thought I'd share this , was on the S@@@@s D@@@@t website looking to see where my kids school bags were ..... when shock,horror I saw a popey sports bag . I kid you not !! Couldn't stop laughing when I saw it said Must go & the price I hear you ask ? £1 haha .... fantastic transfer window ,better than I could have dreamed of .....the board really came through x
Just thought I'd share this , was on the S@@@@s D@@@@t website looking to see where my kids school bags were ..... when shock,horror I saw a popey sports bag . I kid you not !! Couldn't stop laughing when I saw it said Must go & the price I hear you ask ? £1 haha .... fantastic transfer window ,better than I could have dreamed of .....the board really came through x elvis
  • Score: 4

8:49am Tue 2 Sep 14

jls217 says...

bstokesaint wrote:
Well, well so Ralph has truly delivered on his promises to keep Morgan and J-Rod and bolster the squad "by Sep 1st" (possibly even strengthen it - depending on the unknown quanities), whilst it would appear finding the cash to clear any monies owing from previous transfer purchases and other debts amassed under Cortese. I think it would be fitting at this point for all of those who have levelled mindless insults at the chairman, owner and Les Read to retract their comments and admit there has never been anything but good intention from these parties. For me RK has shown he has a proper backbone after all and has done some great business for the club financially whilst taking away nothing in the way of excitement from the pitch. There is no reason now why we can't keep pushing upwards.
To be fair to the "Angry ones" a lot of them have been backtracking in recent days mate so we don't need to rub salt into it and just hope they've promised themselves they will contain their ire until the "All" the facts are clear before making their minds up.
Smiles all round is all that's needed. Good post.
[quote][p][bold]bstokesaint[/bold] wrote: Well, well so Ralph has truly delivered on his promises to keep Morgan and J-Rod and bolster the squad "by Sep 1st" (possibly even strengthen it - depending on the unknown quanities), whilst it would appear finding the cash to clear any monies owing from previous transfer purchases and other debts amassed under Cortese. I think it would be fitting at this point for all of those who have levelled mindless insults at the chairman, owner and Les Read to retract their comments and admit there has never been anything but good intention from these parties. For me RK has shown he has a proper backbone after all and has done some great business for the club financially whilst taking away nothing in the way of excitement from the pitch. There is no reason now why we can't keep pushing upwards.[/p][/quote]To be fair to the "Angry ones" a lot of them have been backtracking in recent days mate so we don't need to rub salt into it and just hope they've promised themselves they will contain their ire until the "All" the facts are clear before making their minds up. Smiles all round is all that's needed. Good post. jls217
  • Score: 8

8:50am Tue 2 Sep 14

jerseysaint says...

great signings really excited now and we still have cash if we need it in Jan.
Sad to see Gaston go but I really like Hull so let hope he gets on well there.
great signings really excited now and we still have cash if we need it in Jan. Sad to see Gaston go but I really like Hull so let hope he gets on well there. jerseysaint
  • Score: 11

8:50am Tue 2 Sep 14

warrens 76 says...

I very much like the idea that this season we have a manager capable of not running out of ideas, early days but horrible WBA game aside (why was that) we have changed our style in three seperate games now, always second half but who cares..
I very much like the idea that this season we have a manager capable of not running out of ideas, early days but horrible WBA game aside (why was that) we have changed our style in three seperate games now, always second half but who cares.. warrens 76
  • Score: 9

8:53am Tue 2 Sep 14

fascia123 says...

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Possible line up?

Forster

Clyne Toby fonte gardon Bertrand

Tadic spider wanyama mane

Pelle
Never even crossed my mind to incorporate 5-4-1. Nice defensive line. I was thinking maybe a 4-4-2.

Clyne Toby Fonte Bertrand

Tadic Spyder Wanyama Mane

Pelle Long
Looks good what options we have and with the way Ronko swaps the play about should be an exciting year.

Have dropped the other players in that I think will be the mainstay, looks like an impressive squad has been built.

Forster

Clyne Toby fonte gardon Bertrand

Tadic spider wanyama mane

Pelle

Bench

Davis cork long jwp targett boruc isgrove yoshida

With Jrod coming back from injury.
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: Possible line up? Forster Clyne Toby fonte gardon Bertrand Tadic spider wanyama mane Pelle[/p][/quote]Never even crossed my mind to incorporate 5-4-1. Nice defensive line. I was thinking maybe a 4-4-2. Clyne Toby Fonte Bertrand Tadic Spyder Wanyama Mane Pelle Long[/p][/quote]Looks good what options we have and with the way Ronko swaps the play about should be an exciting year. Have dropped the other players in that I think will be the mainstay, looks like an impressive squad has been built. Forster Clyne Toby fonte gardon Bertrand Tadic spider wanyama mane Pelle Bench Davis cork long jwp targett boruc isgrove yoshida With Jrod coming back from injury. fascia123
  • Score: 4

8:54am Tue 2 Sep 14

jls217 says...

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Roger me sideways and call me a badger, Tadic and Forster are nailed on success's…Pelle probably, Gardos we have not seen yet, I have seen Mane and what a handful…the defence is absolutely stronger than last two years now…never thought I would say that..

I have been sick as a parrot over the summer becuase of what at the time 'was' the wholesale and unprecedented destruction of much of our team with no obvious plan…

..for those who had in hindsight 'justifiable' blind faith well done but seriously if your missus went out every night and came in the early hours, told you several things that at the time clearly did not add up then tell me you would not be very concerned, the fact she has taken a secret part time job and working for your interest would not stop the doubt at the time..

I digress, last year our possession was a joy to behold but it would be naive to ignore the lack of cutting edge and the nervouseness when we had to play Hooiveld

…Boruc out and we lost almost every time so as he stays as well happy days.

Long was identified long ago as fitted to our style so who can tell if this is wrong or right yet.

Ramirez and Osvaldo never delivered Pelle already has..so even this Saints fan can see that the complaints of last year have been seriously addressed.

One thing I do like is that when we play our style has not changed meaning to the team ethic and style remains, perhaps therefore some of the the players who left 'where' made to look good by the collective…

All in all if this works it will work big I see no middle ground we will either flatter to deceive because of the Spam result or the peices will all fit (looks likely) and we wil keep the best of last year and dispose of the worst and that could be (referee's aside as we are not favored ilk e the brand clubs) +16 points on last year.
I enjoyed the cheating wife analogy lol
I make sure mine washes it when she gets home and the money goes into a pot. Saves any arguments though I agree it wouldn't work for everyone!
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Roger me sideways and call me a badger, Tadic and Forster are nailed on success's…Pelle probably, Gardos we have not seen yet, I have seen Mane and what a handful…the defence is absolutely stronger than last two years now…never thought I would say that.. I have been sick as a parrot over the summer becuase of what at the time 'was' the wholesale and unprecedented destruction of much of our team with no obvious plan… ..for those who had in hindsight 'justifiable' blind faith well done but seriously if your missus went out every night and came in the early hours, told you several things that at the time clearly did not add up then tell me you would not be very concerned, the fact she has taken a secret part time job and working for your interest would not stop the doubt at the time.. I digress, last year our possession was a joy to behold but it would be naive to ignore the lack of cutting edge and the nervouseness when we had to play Hooiveld …Boruc out and we lost almost every time so as he stays as well happy days. Long was identified long ago as fitted to our style so who can tell if this is wrong or right yet. Ramirez and Osvaldo never delivered Pelle already has..so even this Saints fan can see that the complaints of last year have been seriously addressed. One thing I do like is that when we play our style has not changed meaning to the team ethic and style remains, perhaps therefore some of the the players who left 'where' made to look good by the collective… All in all if this works it will work big I see no middle ground we will either flatter to deceive because of the Spam result or the peices will all fit (looks likely) and we wil keep the best of last year and dispose of the worst and that could be (referee's aside as we are not favored ilk e the brand clubs) +16 points on last year.[/p][/quote]I enjoyed the cheating wife analogy lol[/p][/quote]I make sure mine washes it when she gets home and the money goes into a pot. Saves any arguments though I agree it wouldn't work for everyone! jls217
  • Score: -3

8:58am Tue 2 Sep 14

fascia123 says...

jls217 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Roger me sideways and call me a badger, Tadic and Forster are nailed on success's…Pelle probably, Gardos we have not seen yet, I have seen Mane and what a handful…the defence is absolutely stronger than last two years now…never thought I would say that..

I have been sick as a parrot over the summer becuase of what at the time 'was' the wholesale and unprecedented destruction of much of our team with no obvious plan…

..for those who had in hindsight 'justifiable' blind faith well done but seriously if your missus went out every night and came in the early hours, told you several things that at the time clearly did not add up then tell me you would not be very concerned, the fact she has taken a secret part time job and working for your interest would not stop the doubt at the time..

I digress, last year our possession was a joy to behold but it would be naive to ignore the lack of cutting edge and the nervouseness when we had to play Hooiveld

…Boruc out and we lost almost every time so as he stays as well happy days.

Long was identified long ago as fitted to our style so who can tell if this is wrong or right yet.

Ramirez and Osvaldo never delivered Pelle already has..so even this Saints fan can see that the complaints of last year have been seriously addressed.

One thing I do like is that when we play our style has not changed meaning to the team ethic and style remains, perhaps therefore some of the the players who left 'where' made to look good by the collective…

All in all if this works it will work big I see no middle ground we will either flatter to deceive because of the Spam result or the peices will all fit (looks likely) and we wil keep the best of last year and dispose of the worst and that could be (referee's aside as we are not favored ilk e the brand clubs) +16 points on last year.
I enjoyed the cheating wife analogy lol
I make sure mine washes it when she gets home and the money goes into a pot. Saves any arguments though I agree it wouldn't work for everyone!
You want to watch she don't read these posts you will looking for a new pair:-)
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Roger me sideways and call me a badger, Tadic and Forster are nailed on success's…Pelle probably, Gardos we have not seen yet, I have seen Mane and what a handful…the defence is absolutely stronger than last two years now…never thought I would say that.. I have been sick as a parrot over the summer becuase of what at the time 'was' the wholesale and unprecedented destruction of much of our team with no obvious plan… ..for those who had in hindsight 'justifiable' blind faith well done but seriously if your missus went out every night and came in the early hours, told you several things that at the time clearly did not add up then tell me you would not be very concerned, the fact she has taken a secret part time job and working for your interest would not stop the doubt at the time.. I digress, last year our possession was a joy to behold but it would be naive to ignore the lack of cutting edge and the nervouseness when we had to play Hooiveld …Boruc out and we lost almost every time so as he stays as well happy days. Long was identified long ago as fitted to our style so who can tell if this is wrong or right yet. Ramirez and Osvaldo never delivered Pelle already has..so even this Saints fan can see that the complaints of last year have been seriously addressed. One thing I do like is that when we play our style has not changed meaning to the team ethic and style remains, perhaps therefore some of the the players who left 'where' made to look good by the collective… All in all if this works it will work big I see no middle ground we will either flatter to deceive because of the Spam result or the peices will all fit (looks likely) and we wil keep the best of last year and dispose of the worst and that could be (referee's aside as we are not favored ilk e the brand clubs) +16 points on last year.[/p][/quote]I enjoyed the cheating wife analogy lol[/p][/quote]I make sure mine washes it when she gets home and the money goes into a pot. Saves any arguments though I agree it wouldn't work for everyone![/p][/quote]You want to watch she don't read these posts you will looking for a new pair:-) fascia123
  • Score: 5

9:00am Tue 2 Sep 14

jls217 says...

donni1437 wrote:
Fair play to the board as the cash from sales seems to have strengthened the whole squad and that is the same for the manager. We're still to see a few of the new signings play so hard to tell what sort of quality they are, but on paper a thumbs up for sure. Sad to see hoover go and Gaston never really got a good run going in the team. I believe the board have shown intent and should keep the fans happy this season. My only concern is if we have another successful season and the wolves come knocking again, maybe RK will build his house from brick?
I think your fears are inevitable mate the buzzards will be circling if our players show good. The positive of this is that we know that having survived what just happened to us we can survive it again if need be. Rambros was right when Ron said something like players come and players go early on in his reign. We need to remember those words to prevent another fan melt down. All comes right in the end always has and always will.
Let em hover above whoever they want, we, once again, demand top squids for their target, KL pockets her bit and then tells Rambros to go and find a replacement. Everyone's a winner.
[quote][p][bold]donni1437[/bold] wrote: Fair play to the board as the cash from sales seems to have strengthened the whole squad and that is the same for the manager. We're still to see a few of the new signings play so hard to tell what sort of quality they are, but on paper a thumbs up for sure. Sad to see hoover go and Gaston never really got a good run going in the team. I believe the board have shown intent and should keep the fans happy this season. My only concern is if we have another successful season and the wolves come knocking again, maybe RK will build his house from brick?[/p][/quote]I think your fears are inevitable mate the buzzards will be circling if our players show good. The positive of this is that we know that having survived what just happened to us we can survive it again if need be. Rambros was right when Ron said something like players come and players go early on in his reign. We need to remember those words to prevent another fan melt down. All comes right in the end always has and always will. Let em hover above whoever they want, we, once again, demand top squids for their target, KL pockets her bit and then tells Rambros to go and find a replacement. Everyone's a winner. jls217
  • Score: 11

9:01am Tue 2 Sep 14

Alicesdad says...

warrens 76 wrote:
I very much like the idea that this season we have a manager capable of not running out of ideas, early days but horrible WBA game aside (why was that) we have changed our style in three seperate games now, always second half but who cares..
Very good point among all the banner waving and cheering !!

It's not quite clear what the "Southampton Way" is just at the moment. It's still attacking, it's still based on posession and we now have a squad of quality. The new team has not had time to find it's long term shape yet though and the "spirit" that we undoubtedly had will have to be remade and cultivated. That will come. Ron now has so many players he is going to have problems keeping them all happy thats for sure and competition for places is going to be fierce.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: I very much like the idea that this season we have a manager capable of not running out of ideas, early days but horrible WBA game aside (why was that) we have changed our style in three seperate games now, always second half but who cares..[/p][/quote]Very good point among all the banner waving and cheering !! It's not quite clear what the "Southampton Way" is just at the moment. It's still attacking, it's still based on posession and we now have a squad of quality. The new team has not had time to find it's long term shape yet though and the "spirit" that we undoubtedly had will have to be remade and cultivated. That will come. Ron now has so many players he is going to have problems keeping them all happy thats for sure and competition for places is going to be fierce. Alicesdad
  • Score: 1

9:02am Tue 2 Sep 14

TPFKARTSNINZ says...

Good work by all at SFC. Keep the faith everyone, this season's going to be another great one!

Bye bye WUMS, Skunts & Neggies.

Roll on next Saturday.

COYR!
Good work by all at SFC. Keep the faith everyone, this season's going to be another great one! Bye bye WUMS, Skunts & Neggies. Roll on next Saturday. COYR! TPFKARTSNINZ
  • Score: 5

9:03am Tue 2 Sep 14

milton road says...

I think with the dust of the transfer window settling and the emotion both negative and positive beginning to settle its time to be reflective.

RL deserved his move to Liverpool even if he does finish his career for the most part on the bench. Really hope he gts to take part in acouple of CL matches to cap an astonishing last five years or so.

Adam will struggle to get in the first team at Liverpool, if Courtinho cannot get in what chance does Adam have? Yet for all the upset of his going he did give us a decade of loyalty, when he could of moved on several times.

Shaw was always going to go and its to his credit that he signed prro forms for us when the top four all wanted to seal him and we would of got a pittance

Lovren is the one that really grates, I am happy at Saints was replaced three weeks later by I will not play for the club again attitude..

Chambers leaving is still a bit of a mystery but the lad was not going to get much chance of first team football here. If we had made Europe Cup then maybe.

Poch did a good job whilst he was here but question his ambition with us, if you want to progress a club you do not send a reserve team out for a quarter final in the F.A. Cup when you have nothing else to play for.

Cortese should never be belittled he worked wonders for this club. It was he who identified it and persuaded Markus to buy into it. Cortese's drive and determination got us to the Premier and those with short memories should not forget that. He had a vision which he stuck doggedly to. Not everyone's favourite man but he gave this club a lot.

Nigel Adkins will always stand out to me as a warm and passionate manager who would of stayed at Saints forever. His beleif of club and fans as one family, His praise for the fans always making them feel a crucial part of the club and his success on the field will never be forgotten.

Alan Pardew came to this club when we couldn't even put out a first team, had a 10 point deficit were in div one and we were struggling the first few games as he searched for players to build a side. Almost got us to the play offs. Won us the JPT and should be remembered with respect, because he helped build the foundations of what was to come.

Markus what more can you say than THANK YOU and you will always be remembered as the man who not only saved this club but got us back to where we belonged when all hope of even being in existence was fading like a spluttering candle.

Five years ago this club nearly died in the depths of div 1, last season we finished 8th in the premier.

The likes of Hammond and Chaplow, Hoov's immense performances in the championship, Guly's golden run of 10 goals in our early championship days, both he and Hoov much maligned by Saints fans in recent times. Yet both were so instrumental in our promotion to the Premier. Then finally another word about RL . Rickie Lambert will always be remembered by us as Southampton's Goal Machine.

The five year plan is over and its now time to just say thank you even to those we see as villians and betrayers for they all and many more unmentioned played a part in getting us to where we are today.

We move on
COYR
I think with the dust of the transfer window settling and the emotion both negative and positive beginning to settle its time to be reflective. RL deserved his move to Liverpool even if he does finish his career for the most part on the bench. Really hope he gts to take part in acouple of CL matches to cap an astonishing last five years or so. Adam will struggle to get in the first team at Liverpool, if Courtinho cannot get in what chance does Adam have? Yet for all the upset of his going he did give us a decade of loyalty, when he could of moved on several times. Shaw was always going to go and its to his credit that he signed prro forms for us when the top four all wanted to seal him and we would of got a pittance Lovren is the one that really grates, I am happy at Saints was replaced three weeks later by I will not play for the club again attitude.. Chambers leaving is still a bit of a mystery but the lad was not going to get much chance of first team football here. If we had made Europe Cup then maybe. Poch did a good job whilst he was here but question his ambition with us, if you want to progress a club you do not send a reserve team out for a quarter final in the F.A. Cup when you have nothing else to play for. Cortese should never be belittled he worked wonders for this club. It was he who identified it and persuaded Markus to buy into it. Cortese's drive and determination got us to the Premier and those with short memories should not forget that. He had a vision which he stuck doggedly to. Not everyone's favourite man but he gave this club a lot. Nigel Adkins will always stand out to me as a warm and passionate manager who would of stayed at Saints forever. His beleif of club and fans as one family, His praise for the fans always making them feel a crucial part of the club and his success on the field will never be forgotten. Alan Pardew came to this club when we couldn't even put out a first team, had a 10 point deficit were in div one and we were struggling the first few games as he searched for players to build a side. Almost got us to the play offs. Won us the JPT and should be remembered with respect, because he helped build the foundations of what was to come. Markus what more can you say than THANK YOU and you will always be remembered as the man who not only saved this club but got us back to where we belonged when all hope of even being in existence was fading like a spluttering candle. Five years ago this club nearly died in the depths of div 1, last season we finished 8th in the premier. The likes of Hammond and Chaplow, Hoov's immense performances in the championship, Guly's golden run of 10 goals in our early championship days, both he and Hoov much maligned by Saints fans in recent times. Yet both were so instrumental in our promotion to the Premier. Then finally another word about RL . Rickie Lambert will always be remembered by us as Southampton's Goal Machine. The five year plan is over and its now time to just say thank you even to those we see as villians and betrayers for they all and many more unmentioned played a part in getting us to where we are today. We move on COYR milton road
  • Score: 59

9:05am Tue 2 Sep 14

Kernowsaints says...

is it just me or has anyone else seen ron's interview stating both done deals is done at staplewood in the daylight . yet press release and photos of toby are all taken after dark . saints sense of humour or one up manship
. either way what a great day for saints and thank god the summer is now over
is it just me or has anyone else seen ron's interview stating both done deals is done at staplewood in the daylight . yet press release and photos of toby are all taken after dark . saints sense of humour or one up manship . either way what a great day for saints and thank god the summer is now over Kernowsaints
  • Score: 6

9:07am Tue 2 Sep 14

Puddletown Saint says...

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Possible line up?

Forster

Clyne Toby fonte gardon Bertrand

Tadic spider wanyama mane

Pelle
Never even crossed my mind to incorporate 5-4-1. Nice defensive line. I was thinking maybe a 4-4-2.

Clyne Toby Fonte Bertrand

Tadic Spyder Wanyama Mane

Pelle Long
Here is my squad v Newcastle presuming all fit…..
Forster
Toby Fonte Gardos
Nath Spider JWP Ryan
Mane Pelle Dusan
Subs
Boruc Yos Cork S Davis Wanyama Long Isgrove
Reckon J Rod may play up top in time.
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: Possible line up? Forster Clyne Toby fonte gardon Bertrand Tadic spider wanyama mane Pelle[/p][/quote]Never even crossed my mind to incorporate 5-4-1. Nice defensive line. I was thinking maybe a 4-4-2. Clyne Toby Fonte Bertrand Tadic Spyder Wanyama Mane Pelle Long[/p][/quote]Here is my squad v Newcastle presuming all fit….. Forster Toby Fonte Gardos Nath Spider JWP Ryan Mane Pelle Dusan Subs Boruc Yos Cork S Davis Wanyama Long Isgrove Reckon J Rod may play up top in time. Puddletown Saint
  • Score: 0

9:08am Tue 2 Sep 14

jls217 says...

saintmac wrote:
I have been critical of the Board in the past but after their sterling efforts over the recent weeks admit that I was wrong.I just wish that they had
explained the situation better at the time.
I think the team is now stronger than before and once they have got to know each other will be a force to be reckoned with.
The most enjoyable deadline day for a long time if a little tense at the end.
They can explain all they want if there are those who live by the saying, "There's none so deaf as those who won't hear"
We have to get way from the notion that the management teams must show us all their cards - the day they start doing that I'll become a neggie, we've just had a great demonstration of how playing your cards close to your chest works, in the lead up to the transfers. Smoke and mirrors and sometimes noisy silences all the time and every day please - it's the only way we are going to beat the money clubs.
[quote][p][bold]saintmac[/bold] wrote: I have been critical of the Board in the past but after their sterling efforts over the recent weeks admit that I was wrong.I just wish that they had explained the situation better at the time. I think the team is now stronger than before and once they have got to know each other will be a force to be reckoned with. The most enjoyable deadline day for a long time if a little tense at the end.[/p][/quote]They can explain all they want if there are those who live by the saying, "There's none so deaf as those who won't hear" We have to get way from the notion that the management teams must show us all their cards - the day they start doing that I'll become a neggie, we've just had a great demonstration of how playing your cards close to your chest works, in the lead up to the transfers. Smoke and mirrors and sometimes noisy silences all the time and every day please - it's the only way we are going to beat the money clubs. jls217
  • Score: 12

9:13am Tue 2 Sep 14

saintthomas says...

Good to see that most of the so called neggis now will go behind the club and backing the squad. Shure all of us Saints fans was shocket that half a squad was sold but KL and RK had said in several statements, that the club is not for sale and there would be the strong will investing in the team and the club. I am full of confidence, there could be florishing and some good years at SMS to come! It's time for all of us Saintsfans to go beind our beloved Club and give them the suppord they need.
Up the Saints till i die!!
Good to see that most of the so called neggis now will go behind the club and backing the squad. Shure all of us Saints fans was shocket that half a squad was sold but KL and RK had said in several statements, that the club is not for sale and there would be the strong will investing in the team and the club. I am full of confidence, there could be florishing and some good years at SMS to come! It's time for all of us Saintsfans to go beind our beloved Club and give them the suppord they need. Up the Saints till i die!! saintthomas
  • Score: 5

9:16am Tue 2 Sep 14

Clever Dick says...

Yes it looks like the happy clappers won at a canter. Was happy to see that we appear to have an option on Alderweireld as only loans were mentioned yesterday. He looks a beast. Love the cheating wife analogy too. I'm sure even the most positive fans will admit to having had a few doubts but people of the standing of KL, RK, LR and the Koemans simply cannot come out and make the promises they did without losing all their credibility if they don't live up to it. This squad now has greater strength in depth than last season, with more options, and we are going to worry a good few teams now. Hopefully we can remain high in the league in order to convince everybody to stay on board because the same thing is going to happen again in January with Spider and JayRod and Spuds-u-dont-like. And of course the lingering uncertainty over JC. Maybe VW too. We still have money in the bank too so hopefully the board have now sent out a message to everybody that we really can hold on to players if we want to. Now I really have to go and look for my missus. She didn't come home last night!
Yes it looks like the happy clappers won at a canter. Was happy to see that we appear to have an option on Alderweireld as only loans were mentioned yesterday. He looks a beast. Love the cheating wife analogy too. I'm sure even the most positive fans will admit to having had a few doubts but people of the standing of KL, RK, LR and the Koemans simply cannot come out and make the promises they did without losing all their credibility if they don't live up to it. This squad now has greater strength in depth than last season, with more options, and we are going to worry a good few teams now. Hopefully we can remain high in the league in order to convince everybody to stay on board because the same thing is going to happen again in January with Spider and JayRod and Spuds-u-dont-like. And of course the lingering uncertainty over JC. Maybe VW too. We still have money in the bank too so hopefully the board have now sent out a message to everybody that we really can hold on to players if we want to. Now I really have to go and look for my missus. She didn't come home last night! Clever Dick
  • Score: 3

9:18am Tue 2 Sep 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Confucious wrote:
I declare the negativity season closed.
A bit premature I reckon, even now the Red Tops are searching for skeletons in our cupboards, they will find something to burst our bubble and bring our euphoria crashing to earth in a ball of flames, we are doomed I tell you, doomed. Good news was yesterday, what will tomorrow bring?

Neggies ready? Happy Clappers ready? Let battle commence.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: I declare the negativity season closed.[/p][/quote]A bit premature I reckon, even now the Red Tops are searching for skeletons in our cupboards, they will find something to burst our bubble and bring our euphoria crashing to earth in a ball of flames, we are doomed I tell you, doomed. Good news was yesterday, what will tomorrow bring? Neggies ready? Happy Clappers ready? Let battle commence. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 3

9:19am Tue 2 Sep 14

jls217 says...

fascia123 wrote:
jls217 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Roger me sideways and call me a badger, Tadic and Forster are nailed on success's…Pelle probably, Gardos we have not seen yet, I have seen Mane and what a handful…the defence is absolutely stronger than last two years now…never thought I would say that..

I have been sick as a parrot over the summer becuase of what at the time 'was' the wholesale and unprecedented destruction of much of our team with no obvious plan…

..for those who had in hindsight 'justifiable' blind faith well done but seriously if your missus went out every night and came in the early hours, told you several things that at the time clearly did not add up then tell me you would not be very concerned, the fact she has taken a secret part time job and working for your interest would not stop the doubt at the time..

I digress, last year our possession was a joy to behold but it would be naive to ignore the lack of cutting edge and the nervouseness when we had to play Hooiveld

…Boruc out and we lost almost every time so as he stays as well happy days.

Long was identified long ago as fitted to our style so who can tell if this is wrong or right yet.

Ramirez and Osvaldo never delivered Pelle already has..so even this Saints fan can see that the complaints of last year have been seriously addressed.

One thing I do like is that when we play our style has not changed meaning to the team ethic and style remains, perhaps therefore some of the the players who left 'where' made to look good by the collective…

All in all if this works it will work big I see no middle ground we will either flatter to deceive because of the Spam result or the peices will all fit (looks likely) and we wil keep the best of last year and dispose of the worst and that could be (referee's aside as we are not favored ilk e the brand clubs) +16 points on last year.
I enjoyed the cheating wife analogy lol
I make sure mine washes it when she gets home and the money goes into a pot. Saves any arguments though I agree it wouldn't work for everyone!
You want to watch she don't read these posts you will looking for a new pair:-)
She's a hot blooded foreigner so it's more of a probability than a possibility. Good soldier's wife though mate - seen it all, heard it all before and once she's finished her not talking to me phase (quite therapeutic from time to time) she still puts her hand out for the wages and tolerates me till the next time. And her bum has never looked big in anything. Now Les Reed would love to be able to lie as well as that.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Roger me sideways and call me a badger, Tadic and Forster are nailed on success's…Pelle probably, Gardos we have not seen yet, I have seen Mane and what a handful…the defence is absolutely stronger than last two years now…never thought I would say that.. I have been sick as a parrot over the summer becuase of what at the time 'was' the wholesale and unprecedented destruction of much of our team with no obvious plan… ..for those who had in hindsight 'justifiable' blind faith well done but seriously if your missus went out every night and came in the early hours, told you several things that at the time clearly did not add up then tell me you would not be very concerned, the fact she has taken a secret part time job and working for your interest would not stop the doubt at the time.. I digress, last year our possession was a joy to behold but it would be naive to ignore the lack of cutting edge and the nervouseness when we had to play Hooiveld …Boruc out and we lost almost every time so as he stays as well happy days. Long was identified long ago as fitted to our style so who can tell if this is wrong or right yet. Ramirez and Osvaldo never delivered Pelle already has..so even this Saints fan can see that the complaints of last year have been seriously addressed. One thing I do like is that when we play our style has not changed meaning to the team ethic and style remains, perhaps therefore some of the the players who left 'where' made to look good by the collective… All in all if this works it will work big I see no middle ground we will either flatter to deceive because of the Spam result or the peices will all fit (looks likely) and we wil keep the best of last year and dispose of the worst and that could be (referee's aside as we are not favored ilk e the brand clubs) +16 points on last year.[/p][/quote]I enjoyed the cheating wife analogy lol[/p][/quote]I make sure mine washes it when she gets home and the money goes into a pot. Saves any arguments though I agree it wouldn't work for everyone![/p][/quote]You want to watch she don't read these posts you will looking for a new pair:-)[/p][/quote]She's a hot blooded foreigner so it's more of a probability than a possibility. Good soldier's wife though mate - seen it all, heard it all before and once she's finished her not talking to me phase (quite therapeutic from time to time) she still puts her hand out for the wages and tolerates me till the next time. And her bum has never looked big in anything. Now Les Reed would love to be able to lie as well as that. jls217
  • Score: 1

9:19am Tue 2 Sep 14

simmo 2 says...

Will Gaston not play against us , would hate to see him score !! Also would like to know more about Gardos , not much info on him , hope hes not another foren ??
Will Gaston not play against us , would hate to see him score !! Also would like to know more about Gardos , not much info on him , hope hes not another foren ?? simmo 2
  • Score: 1

9:21am Tue 2 Sep 14

Jan28th1984 says...

These last two players look the real deal, they will do the business for us I don't doubt. Sorry to see Hooiveld and Ramirez go out on loan but I guess Rocket Ron knows what he is doing.

Good business also to keep Cork, Schneiderlin , Rodriguez, Boruc and Wanyama. Looking at the replacements the club has got in over the summer for those who left (inc the manager and his staff), and we have still got a few mil in the bank for the Jan window, you could say the summer hasn't turned out so bad after all.

With that in mind I will say fair play to Les and Ralph! I have doubted them over the summer but at this moment it looks like I got it wrong and they were right. The squad looks a whole lot more balanced and flexible now and we have quality coming off the bench now.
Yea good work from all at the club.

Now let's stick it up the Geordies on Saturday - COYS.
These last two players look the real deal, they will do the business for us I don't doubt. Sorry to see Hooiveld and Ramirez go out on loan but I guess Rocket Ron knows what he is doing. Good business also to keep Cork, Schneiderlin , Rodriguez, Boruc and Wanyama. Looking at the replacements the club has got in over the summer for those who left (inc the manager and his staff), and we have still got a few mil in the bank for the Jan window, you could say the summer hasn't turned out so bad after all. With that in mind I will say fair play to Les and Ralph! I have doubted them over the summer but at this moment it looks like I got it wrong and they were right. The squad looks a whole lot more balanced and flexible now and we have quality coming off the bench now. Yea good work from all at the club. Now let's stick it up the Geordies on Saturday - COYS. Jan28th1984
  • Score: 3

9:22am Tue 2 Sep 14

saint Compo says...

Am I alone in thinking that Saints are in far better shape than they were 5 years ago?

Vielen Dank fuer alles, Markus und Katharina.

COYR
Am I alone in thinking that Saints are in far better shape than they were 5 years ago? Vielen Dank fuer alles, Markus und Katharina. COYR saint Compo
  • Score: 10

9:25am Tue 2 Sep 14

warrens 76 says...

milton road wrote:
I think with the dust of the transfer window settling and the emotion both negative and positive beginning to settle its time to be reflective.

RL deserved his move to Liverpool even if he does finish his career for the most part on the bench. Really hope he gts to take part in acouple of CL matches to cap an astonishing last five years or so.

Adam will struggle to get in the first team at Liverpool, if Courtinho cannot get in what chance does Adam have? Yet for all the upset of his going he did give us a decade of loyalty, when he could of moved on several times.

Shaw was always going to go and its to his credit that he signed prro forms for us when the top four all wanted to seal him and we would of got a pittance

Lovren is the one that really grates, I am happy at Saints was replaced three weeks later by I will not play for the club again attitude..

Chambers leaving is still a bit of a mystery but the lad was not going to get much chance of first team football here. If we had made Europe Cup then maybe.

Poch did a good job whilst he was here but question his ambition with us, if you want to progress a club you do not send a reserve team out for a quarter final in the F.A. Cup when you have nothing else to play for.

Cortese should never be belittled he worked wonders for this club. It was he who identified it and persuaded Markus to buy into it. Cortese's drive and determination got us to the Premier and those with short memories should not forget that. He had a vision which he stuck doggedly to. Not everyone's favourite man but he gave this club a lot.

Nigel Adkins will always stand out to me as a warm and passionate manager who would of stayed at Saints forever. His beleif of club and fans as one family, His praise for the fans always making them feel a crucial part of the club and his success on the field will never be forgotten.

Alan Pardew came to this club when we couldn't even put out a first team, had a 10 point deficit were in div one and we were struggling the first few games as he searched for players to build a side. Almost got us to the play offs. Won us the JPT and should be remembered with respect, because he helped build the foundations of what was to come.

Markus what more can you say than THANK YOU and you will always be remembered as the man who not only saved this club but got us back to where we belonged when all hope of even being in existence was fading like a spluttering candle.

Five years ago this club nearly died in the depths of div 1, last season we finished 8th in the premier.

The likes of Hammond and Chaplow, Hoov's immense performances in the championship, Guly's golden run of 10 goals in our early championship days, both he and Hoov much maligned by Saints fans in recent times. Yet both were so instrumental in our promotion to the Premier. Then finally another word about RL . Rickie Lambert will always be remembered by us as Southampton's Goal Machine.

The five year plan is over and its now time to just say thank you even to those we see as villians and betrayers for they all and many more unmentioned played a part in getting us to where we are today.

We move on
COYR
Well written.
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: I think with the dust of the transfer window settling and the emotion both negative and positive beginning to settle its time to be reflective. RL deserved his move to Liverpool even if he does finish his career for the most part on the bench. Really hope he gts to take part in acouple of CL matches to cap an astonishing last five years or so. Adam will struggle to get in the first team at Liverpool, if Courtinho cannot get in what chance does Adam have? Yet for all the upset of his going he did give us a decade of loyalty, when he could of moved on several times. Shaw was always going to go and its to his credit that he signed prro forms for us when the top four all wanted to seal him and we would of got a pittance Lovren is the one that really grates, I am happy at Saints was replaced three weeks later by I will not play for the club again attitude.. Chambers leaving is still a bit of a mystery but the lad was not going to get much chance of first team football here. If we had made Europe Cup then maybe. Poch did a good job whilst he was here but question his ambition with us, if you want to progress a club you do not send a reserve team out for a quarter final in the F.A. Cup when you have nothing else to play for. Cortese should never be belittled he worked wonders for this club. It was he who identified it and persuaded Markus to buy into it. Cortese's drive and determination got us to the Premier and those with short memories should not forget that. He had a vision which he stuck doggedly to. Not everyone's favourite man but he gave this club a lot. Nigel Adkins will always stand out to me as a warm and passionate manager who would of stayed at Saints forever. His beleif of club and fans as one family, His praise for the fans always making them feel a crucial part of the club and his success on the field will never be forgotten. Alan Pardew came to this club when we couldn't even put out a first team, had a 10 point deficit were in div one and we were struggling the first few games as he searched for players to build a side. Almost got us to the play offs. Won us the JPT and should be remembered with respect, because he helped build the foundations of what was to come. Markus what more can you say than THANK YOU and you will always be remembered as the man who not only saved this club but got us back to where we belonged when all hope of even being in existence was fading like a spluttering candle. Five years ago this club nearly died in the depths of div 1, last season we finished 8th in the premier. The likes of Hammond and Chaplow, Hoov's immense performances in the championship, Guly's golden run of 10 goals in our early championship days, both he and Hoov much maligned by Saints fans in recent times. Yet both were so instrumental in our promotion to the Premier. Then finally another word about RL . Rickie Lambert will always be remembered by us as Southampton's Goal Machine. The five year plan is over and its now time to just say thank you even to those we see as villians and betrayers for they all and many more unmentioned played a part in getting us to where we are today. We move on COYR[/p][/quote]Well written. warrens 76
  • Score: 13

9:30am Tue 2 Sep 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

saint Compo wrote:
Am I alone in thinking that Saints are in far better shape than they were 5 years ago?

Vielen Dank fuer alles, Markus und Katharina.

COYR
Silly question, if nobody is with you, then you are alone. Only time will tell if we are in better shape, looks fine on paper, but these newbies need to blend in and not rock the boat, we have had plenty of lessons on how it could foul up, Osvaldo and Taida are the wake up calls, complacency the enemy.

Easier to be a neggie than a happy clapper isn't it?
[quote][p][bold]saint Compo[/bold] wrote: Am I alone in thinking that Saints are in far better shape than they were 5 years ago? Vielen Dank fuer alles, Markus und Katharina. COYR[/p][/quote]Silly question, if nobody is with you, then you are alone. Only time will tell if we are in better shape, looks fine on paper, but these newbies need to blend in and not rock the boat, we have had plenty of lessons on how it could foul up, Osvaldo and Taida are the wake up calls, complacency the enemy. Easier to be a neggie than a happy clapper isn't it? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

9:30am Tue 2 Sep 14

fascia123 says...

jls217 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
jls217 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Roger me sideways and call me a badger, Tadic and Forster are nailed on success's…Pelle probably, Gardos we have not seen yet, I have seen Mane and what a handful…the defence is absolutely stronger than last two years now…never thought I would say that..

I have been sick as a parrot over the summer becuase of what at the time 'was' the wholesale and unprecedented destruction of much of our team with no obvious plan…

..for those who had in hindsight 'justifiable' blind faith well done but seriously if your missus went out every night and came in the early hours, told you several things that at the time clearly did not add up then tell me you would not be very concerned, the fact she has taken a secret part time job and working for your interest would not stop the doubt at the time..

I digress, last year our possession was a joy to behold but it would be naive to ignore the lack of cutting edge and the nervouseness when we had to play Hooiveld

…Boruc out and we lost almost every time so as he stays as well happy days.

Long was identified long ago as fitted to our style so who can tell if this is wrong or right yet.

Ramirez and Osvaldo never delivered Pelle already has..so even this Saints fan can see that the complaints of last year have been seriously addressed.

One thing I do like is that when we play our style has not changed meaning to the team ethic and style remains, perhaps therefore some of the the players who left 'where' made to look good by the collective…

All in all if this works it will work big I see no middle ground we will either flatter to deceive because of the Spam result or the peices will all fit (looks likely) and we wil keep the best of last year and dispose of the worst and that could be (referee's aside as we are not favored ilk e the brand clubs) +16 points on last year.
I enjoyed the cheating wife analogy lol
I make sure mine washes it when she gets home and the money goes into a pot. Saves any arguments though I agree it wouldn't work for everyone!
You want to watch she don't read these posts you will looking for a new pair:-)
She's a hot blooded foreigner so it's more of a probability than a possibility. Good soldier's wife though mate - seen it all, heard it all before and once she's finished her not talking to me phase (quite therapeutic from time to time) she still puts her hand out for the wages and tolerates me till the next time. And her bum has never looked big in anything. Now Les Reed would love to be able to lie as well as that.
:-)

Glad to say the mood a good and positive one lets hope that continues throughout the season.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Roger me sideways and call me a badger, Tadic and Forster are nailed on success's…Pelle probably, Gardos we have not seen yet, I have seen Mane and what a handful…the defence is absolutely stronger than last two years now…never thought I would say that.. I have been sick as a parrot over the summer becuase of what at the time 'was' the wholesale and unprecedented destruction of much of our team with no obvious plan… ..for those who had in hindsight 'justifiable' blind faith well done but seriously if your missus went out every night and came in the early hours, told you several things that at the time clearly did not add up then tell me you would not be very concerned, the fact she has taken a secret part time job and working for your interest would not stop the doubt at the time.. I digress, last year our possession was a joy to behold but it would be naive to ignore the lack of cutting edge and the nervouseness when we had to play Hooiveld …Boruc out and we lost almost every time so as he stays as well happy days. Long was identified long ago as fitted to our style so who can tell if this is wrong or right yet. Ramirez and Osvaldo never delivered Pelle already has..so even this Saints fan can see that the complaints of last year have been seriously addressed. One thing I do like is that when we play our style has not changed meaning to the team ethic and style remains, perhaps therefore some of the the players who left 'where' made to look good by the collective… All in all if this works it will work big I see no middle ground we will either flatter to deceive because of the Spam result or the peices will all fit (looks likely) and we wil keep the best of last year and dispose of the worst and that could be (referee's aside as we are not favored ilk e the brand clubs) +16 points on last year.[/p][/quote]I enjoyed the cheating wife analogy lol[/p][/quote]I make sure mine washes it when she gets home and the money goes into a pot. Saves any arguments though I agree it wouldn't work for everyone![/p][/quote]You want to watch she don't read these posts you will looking for a new pair:-)[/p][/quote]She's a hot blooded foreigner so it's more of a probability than a possibility. Good soldier's wife though mate - seen it all, heard it all before and once she's finished her not talking to me phase (quite therapeutic from time to time) she still puts her hand out for the wages and tolerates me till the next time. And her bum has never looked big in anything. Now Les Reed would love to be able to lie as well as that.[/p][/quote]:-) Glad to say the mood a good and positive one lets hope that continues throughout the season. fascia123
  • Score: -1

9:32am Tue 2 Sep 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

saintthomas wrote:
Good to see that most of the so called neggis now will go behind the club and backing the squad. Shure all of us Saints fans was shocket that half a squad was sold but KL and RK had said in several statements, that the club is not for sale and there would be the strong will investing in the team and the club. I am full of confidence, there could be florishing and some good years at SMS to come! It's time for all of us Saintsfans to go beind our beloved Club and give them the suppord they need.
Up the Saints till i die!!
I want to also thank the Happy Clappers and the Neggies who have kept the forums interesting and I'm sure DE would testify, busier in the last few months. Without everybody participating and vibrantly exchanging ideologies as we have, things would have been a lot more tepid around here.
[quote][p][bold]saintthomas[/bold] wrote: Good to see that most of the so called neggis now will go behind the club and backing the squad. Shure all of us Saints fans was shocket that half a squad was sold but KL and RK had said in several statements, that the club is not for sale and there would be the strong will investing in the team and the club. I am full of confidence, there could be florishing and some good years at SMS to come! It's time for all of us Saintsfans to go beind our beloved Club and give them the suppord they need. Up the Saints till i die!![/p][/quote]I want to also thank the Happy Clappers and the Neggies who have kept the forums interesting and I'm sure DE would testify, busier in the last few months. Without everybody participating and vibrantly exchanging ideologies as we have, things would have been a lot more tepid around here. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 6

9:33am Tue 2 Sep 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

fascia123 wrote:
jls217 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
jls217 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Roger me sideways and call me a badger, Tadic and Forster are nailed on success's…Pelle probably, Gardos we have not seen yet, I have seen Mane and what a handful…the defence is absolutely stronger than last two years now…never thought I would say that..

I have been sick as a parrot over the summer becuase of what at the time 'was' the wholesale and unprecedented destruction of much of our team with no obvious plan…

..for those who had in hindsight 'justifiable' blind faith well done but seriously if your missus went out every night and came in the early hours, told you several things that at the time clearly did not add up then tell me you would not be very concerned, the fact she has taken a secret part time job and working for your interest would not stop the doubt at the time..

I digress, last year our possession was a joy to behold but it would be naive to ignore the lack of cutting edge and the nervouseness when we had to play Hooiveld

…Boruc out and we lost almost every time so as he stays as well happy days.

Long was identified long ago as fitted to our style so who can tell if this is wrong or right yet.

Ramirez and Osvaldo never delivered Pelle already has..so even this Saints fan can see that the complaints of last year have been seriously addressed.

One thing I do like is that when we play our style has not changed meaning to the team ethic and style remains, perhaps therefore some of the the players who left 'where' made to look good by the collective…

All in all if this works it will work big I see no middle ground we will either flatter to deceive because of the Spam result or the peices will all fit (looks likely) and we wil keep the best of last year and dispose of the worst and that could be (referee's aside as we are not favored ilk e the brand clubs) +16 points on last year.
I enjoyed the cheating wife analogy lol
I make sure mine washes it when she gets home and the money goes into a pot. Saves any arguments though I agree it wouldn't work for everyone!
You want to watch she don't read these posts you will looking for a new pair:-)
She's a hot blooded foreigner so it's more of a probability than a possibility. Good soldier's wife though mate - seen it all, heard it all before and once she's finished her not talking to me phase (quite therapeutic from time to time) she still puts her hand out for the wages and tolerates me till the next time. And her bum has never looked big in anything. Now Les Reed would love to be able to lie as well as that.
:-)

Glad to say the mood a good and positive one lets hope that continues throughout the season.
Mine would unleash the Russian mafia on my a s s!
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Roger me sideways and call me a badger, Tadic and Forster are nailed on success's…Pelle probably, Gardos we have not seen yet, I have seen Mane and what a handful…the defence is absolutely stronger than last two years now…never thought I would say that.. I have been sick as a parrot over the summer becuase of what at the time 'was' the wholesale and unprecedented destruction of much of our team with no obvious plan… ..for those who had in hindsight 'justifiable' blind faith well done but seriously if your missus went out every night and came in the early hours, told you several things that at the time clearly did not add up then tell me you would not be very concerned, the fact she has taken a secret part time job and working for your interest would not stop the doubt at the time.. I digress, last year our possession was a joy to behold but it would be naive to ignore the lack of cutting edge and the nervouseness when we had to play Hooiveld …Boruc out and we lost almost every time so as he stays as well happy days. Long was identified long ago as fitted to our style so who can tell if this is wrong or right yet. Ramirez and Osvaldo never delivered Pelle already has..so even this Saints fan can see that the complaints of last year have been seriously addressed. One thing I do like is that when we play our style has not changed meaning to the team ethic and style remains, perhaps therefore some of the the players who left 'where' made to look good by the collective… All in all if this works it will work big I see no middle ground we will either flatter to deceive because of the Spam result or the peices will all fit (looks likely) and we wil keep the best of last year and dispose of the worst and that could be (referee's aside as we are not favored ilk e the brand clubs) +16 points on last year.[/p][/quote]I enjoyed the cheating wife analogy lol[/p][/quote]I make sure mine washes it when she gets home and the money goes into a pot. Saves any arguments though I agree it wouldn't work for everyone![/p][/quote]You want to watch she don't read these posts you will looking for a new pair:-)[/p][/quote]She's a hot blooded foreigner so it's more of a probability than a possibility. Good soldier's wife though mate - seen it all, heard it all before and once she's finished her not talking to me phase (quite therapeutic from time to time) she still puts her hand out for the wages and tolerates me till the next time. And her bum has never looked big in anything. Now Les Reed would love to be able to lie as well as that.[/p][/quote]:-) Glad to say the mood a good and positive one lets hope that continues throughout the season.[/p][/quote]Mine would unleash the Russian mafia on my a s s! KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 1

9:35am Tue 2 Sep 14

st.ranger says...

jls217 wrote:
StVietnam wrote:
A solid defence, that can play the ball out, backed up by a world class goalkeeper. The midfield industry of Wanyama and JWP, the pace and guile of Tadic and Mane feeding into our increasingly prolific attack. Sorry Lallana you wouldn't get in our team now.
Y'know I think you might be right - he would have to fight for a place on the bench, only time will tell of course. Something for all to think about there.
I cheered for him unquestionably when he was with us, I was disappointed when he left, and quite angry when some of his comments to the press came out. Having reviewed his work last year in a cooler frame of mind I can see a lot of Jack Wilshere in him..... takes the ball well, bamboozles the first player, runs into a blind alley, falls over...... checks if ref though it was good enough for a whistle. Maybe not quite so blatant as smokin' Jack flash, but not far behind - but what really galls me is agreeing with the ref, especially Clattenburg!

Anyway, happy with the team, balance and options look good if we have some finishers now, shame WoHo Gaston Ra-Mi-Rez didn't work out, but maybe with a season at Hull he will flourish and return as another option?

lets get some points - Newcastle, Swansea, QPR in Sept., Spuds, Sunderland and Stoke in Oct., Hull, Leics, Villa and Citeh in Nov - what odds on 25+points by Dec1st?
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StVietnam[/bold] wrote: A solid defence, that can play the ball out, backed up by a world class goalkeeper. The midfield industry of Wanyama and JWP, the pace and guile of Tadic and Mane feeding into our increasingly prolific attack. Sorry Lallana you wouldn't get in our team now.[/p][/quote]Y'know I think you might be right - he would have to fight for a place on the bench, only time will tell of course. Something for all to think about there.[/p][/quote]I cheered for him unquestionably when he was with us, I was disappointed when he left, and quite angry when some of his comments to the press came out. Having reviewed his work last year in a cooler frame of mind I can see a lot of Jack Wilshere in him..... takes the ball well, bamboozles the first player, runs into a blind alley, falls over...... checks if ref though it was good enough for a whistle. Maybe not quite so blatant as smokin' Jack flash, but not far behind - but what really galls me is agreeing with the ref, especially Clattenburg! Anyway, happy with the team, balance and options look good if we have some finishers now, shame WoHo Gaston Ra-Mi-Rez didn't work out, but maybe with a season at Hull he will flourish and return as another option? lets get some points - Newcastle, Swansea, QPR in Sept., Spuds, Sunderland and Stoke in Oct., Hull, Leics, Villa and Citeh in Nov - what odds on 25+points by Dec1st? st.ranger
  • Score: 1

9:36am Tue 2 Sep 14

jls217 says...

jls217 wrote:
KSO16R wrote:
Fair to say the board at sfc know a lot more about running a premier league football club than any of the posters on here and indeed most of the journalists reporting on our club over the summer.
Been trying to say just that for months.
In the light of the new 'fessing up mood which seems to have swept over us faster than Rolf Harris's eyes looking for a boy scout, I feel it appropriate to apologize to those whose knackers I might have trodden on in the pursuance of my above post. I try not to get wound up and bite - sometimes I fail and get carried away.
For those I threatened to shoot I also apologize but I am weak and also have to 'fess up to wanting to empty the mag into you.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KSO16R[/bold] wrote: Fair to say the board at sfc know a lot more about running a premier league football club than any of the posters on here and indeed most of the journalists reporting on our club over the summer.[/p][/quote]Been trying to say just that for months.[/p][/quote]In the light of the new 'fessing up mood which seems to have swept over us faster than Rolf Harris's eyes looking for a boy scout, I feel it appropriate to apologize to those whose knackers I might have trodden on in the pursuance of my above post. I try not to get wound up and bite - sometimes I fail and get carried away. For those I threatened to shoot I also apologize but I am weak and also have to 'fess up to wanting to empty the mag into you. jls217
  • Score: 3

9:36am Tue 2 Sep 14

milton road says...

NEW DAWN

I do not think that Morgan Schneiderlin realises that however Saints fans vote in end of season polls, if you ask them who actually is the club's best player, they will say Morgan
.Keeping Morgan who was so instrumental in the five year plan was the most important piece of business we did this summer.

We have a new manager in Koeman and I am really impressed with him, which I am sure he will be glad to hear lol. I really do feel we have a progressive manager who can take us forward and has several plans and ways to play.

The coming in of Bertrand and Tadic has been so seemless that we have not missed Shaw and Lallana. Yoshida has for the main part stepped up and done a good job but then I never doubted he would.

Pelle is taking time to settle and unfortunately the international break comes at a time when he was starting to find goals. He started to look a good player against WH.

Forster has come in and i think he and Buroc are a close call as to who should be first choice they both have different strengths and weaknesses. We do though have two top international keepers now.

We have not seen Florin yet so nothing can really be said.

There are doubts about the wisdom of signing Shane Long but one thing is for sure he will never hide and put in a full shift when asked.

The Cork situation is an inigma, and its a puzzl;e as to why he has not got a new contract, always gives his best and never hides.

In Clyne we have one of the best right backs in the prem. WP is coming on leaps and bounds, we have the strength of Wanyama, the leadership of Fonte.
Toby sounds like a good acquisition and gives us a real challenge for places at the back

If Mane has the pace we believe and skill, then the pace of Tadic, Mane and Rodriguez when fit all playing off Pelle is mouth watering.

I think the new owner has well proved her worth and intent and I think a few should hang their heads in shame. its one thing to criticize someone over their business policy but some of the personal verbal attacks were disgusting.

The new board have seemed to come through and maybe, just maybe have redeemed themselves. Again its one thing to criticize their judgement but personal verbal attacks that are disgusting in nature are totally unnecessary.

Its over its gone we move on and I hope we can takes this as a new beginning a new dawn a clean slate, because it seems to me we have-

A stronger choice of goalkeepers, a stronger defence, at least as good if not better midfield and potentially a better attack and a more experienced squad.

You cannot stop progress as much as you would like to at times and the truth is until we hit Europe we will struggles to keep some players. The close season has been a shock and a painful reminder that however much we have grown, it was not enough to stop being raped by the big clubs.

So as fans and a as a club lets go and rock their socks off and show them we are still going to be improve and grow .
its a new day, a new beginning
COYR
NEW DAWN I do not think that Morgan Schneiderlin realises that however Saints fans vote in end of season polls, if you ask them who actually is the club's best player, they will say Morgan .Keeping Morgan who was so instrumental in the five year plan was the most important piece of business we did this summer. We have a new manager in Koeman and I am really impressed with him, which I am sure he will be glad to hear lol. I really do feel we have a progressive manager who can take us forward and has several plans and ways to play. The coming in of Bertrand and Tadic has been so seemless that we have not missed Shaw and Lallana. Yoshida has for the main part stepped up and done a good job but then I never doubted he would. Pelle is taking time to settle and unfortunately the international break comes at a time when he was starting to find goals. He started to look a good player against WH. Forster has come in and i think he and Buroc are a close call as to who should be first choice they both have different strengths and weaknesses. We do though have two top international keepers now. We have not seen Florin yet so nothing can really be said. There are doubts about the wisdom of signing Shane Long but one thing is for sure he will never hide and put in a full shift when asked. The Cork situation is an inigma, and its a puzzl;e as to why he has not got a new contract, always gives his best and never hides. In Clyne we have one of the best right backs in the prem. WP is coming on leaps and bounds, we have the strength of Wanyama, the leadership of Fonte. Toby sounds like a good acquisition and gives us a real challenge for places at the back If Mane has the pace we believe and skill, then the pace of Tadic, Mane and Rodriguez when fit all playing off Pelle is mouth watering. I think the new owner has well proved her worth and intent and I think a few should hang their heads in shame. its one thing to criticize someone over their business policy but some of the personal verbal attacks were disgusting. The new board have seemed to come through and maybe, just maybe have redeemed themselves. Again its one thing to criticize their judgement but personal verbal attacks that are disgusting in nature are totally unnecessary. Its over its gone we move on and I hope we can takes this as a new beginning a new dawn a clean slate, because it seems to me we have- A stronger choice of goalkeepers, a stronger defence, at least as good if not better midfield and potentially a better attack and a more experienced squad. You cannot stop progress as much as you would like to at times and the truth is until we hit Europe we will struggles to keep some players. The close season has been a shock and a painful reminder that however much we have grown, it was not enough to stop being raped by the big clubs. So as fans and a as a club lets go and rock their socks off and show them we are still going to be improve and grow . its a new day, a new beginning COYR milton road
  • Score: 13

9:41am Tue 2 Sep 14

costa gaz says...

FINAL RESULT:

Happy Clappers 7-8 Merchants of Doom
Almost the come back of all come backs, 6 weeks ago the HC's were dead and buried, but right at the last minute nearly pulled it off.

There is no doubt we sold some of our best players from last season and hopefully our replacements can gel in double quick time.

What we have now that is different from last season is we now have a squad, last season we had a team + 3/4 subs, now we have 20 odd players all capable of slotting into any system RK decides.

I hope I never have to go through another summer like that ever again and hopefully all posters can get back to our prime objective of supporting our team.
FINAL RESULT: Happy Clappers 7-8 Merchants of Doom Almost the come back of all come backs, 6 weeks ago the HC's were dead and buried, but right at the last minute nearly pulled it off. There is no doubt we sold some of our best players from last season and hopefully our replacements can gel in double quick time. What we have now that is different from last season is we now have a squad, last season we had a team + 3/4 subs, now we have 20 odd players all capable of slotting into any system RK decides. I hope I never have to go through another summer like that ever again and hopefully all posters can get back to our prime objective of supporting our team. costa gaz
  • Score: 2

9:42am Tue 2 Sep 14

Qatar Saint says...

I have been reading the stories the DE have had on the site since the close of last season from here in Qatar and I have to say "You do and have written a load of rubbish" in the past few months. The Board, the Owner and the new manager have confirmed they are on board the bus and although I was disappointed when the main stay of the team were sold, they have done some great business.

The club as a business is in great shape, the team are better than last year and Ron has his team to now get to play his way.

UTS.....
I have been reading the stories the DE have had on the site since the close of last season from here in Qatar and I have to say "You do and have written a load of rubbish" in the past few months. The Board, the Owner and the new manager have confirmed they are on board the bus and although I was disappointed when the main stay of the team were sold, they have done some great business. The club as a business is in great shape, the team are better than last year and Ron has his team to now get to play his way. UTS..... Qatar Saint
  • Score: 8

9:45am Tue 2 Sep 14

st.ranger says...

milton road wrote:
I think with the dust of the transfer window settling and the emotion both negative and positive beginning to settle its time to be reflective.

RL deserved his move to Liverpool even if he does finish his career for the most part on the bench. Really hope he gts to take part in acouple of CL matches to cap an astonishing last five years or so.

Adam will struggle to get in the first team at Liverpool, if Courtinho cannot get in what chance does Adam have? Yet for all the upset of his going he did give us a decade of loyalty, when he could of moved on several times.

Shaw was always going to go and its to his credit that he signed prro forms for us when the top four all wanted to seal him and we would of got a pittance

Lovren is the one that really grates, I am happy at Saints was replaced three weeks later by I will not play for the club again attitude..

Chambers leaving is still a bit of a mystery but the lad was not going to get much chance of first team football here. If we had made Europe Cup then maybe.

Poch did a good job whilst he was here but question his ambition with us, if you want to progress a club you do not send a reserve team out for a quarter final in the F.A. Cup when you have nothing else to play for.

Cortese should never be belittled he worked wonders for this club. It was he who identified it and persuaded Markus to buy into it. Cortese's drive and determination got us to the Premier and those with short memories should not forget that. He had a vision which he stuck doggedly to. Not everyone's favourite man but he gave this club a lot.

Nigel Adkins will always stand out to me as a warm and passionate manager who would of stayed at Saints forever. His beleif of club and fans as one family, His praise for the fans always making them feel a crucial part of the club and his success on the field will never be forgotten.

Alan Pardew came to this club when we couldn't even put out a first team, had a 10 point deficit were in div one and we were struggling the first few games as he searched for players to build a side. Almost got us to the play offs. Won us the JPT and should be remembered with respect, because he helped build the foundations of what was to come.

Markus what more can you say than THANK YOU and you will always be remembered as the man who not only saved this club but got us back to where we belonged when all hope of even being in existence was fading like a spluttering candle.

Five years ago this club nearly died in the depths of div 1, last season we finished 8th in the premier.

The likes of Hammond and Chaplow, Hoov's immense performances in the championship, Guly's golden run of 10 goals in our early championship days, both he and Hoov much maligned by Saints fans in recent times. Yet both were so instrumental in our promotion to the Premier. Then finally another word about RL . Rickie Lambert will always be remembered by us as Southampton's Goal Machine.

The five year plan is over and its now time to just say thank you even to those we see as villians and betrayers for they all and many more unmentioned played a part in getting us to where we are today.

We move on
COYR
Well said, all these people made a contribution, we should put our energy into the team we have this year and not waste it on knocking the ones who got us here ..... but I might just save a cheer for SRL and a bit of gip for Lovren as he is likely the only one of them who will play a full game against us!
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: I think with the dust of the transfer window settling and the emotion both negative and positive beginning to settle its time to be reflective. RL deserved his move to Liverpool even if he does finish his career for the most part on the bench. Really hope he gts to take part in acouple of CL matches to cap an astonishing last five years or so. Adam will struggle to get in the first team at Liverpool, if Courtinho cannot get in what chance does Adam have? Yet for all the upset of his going he did give us a decade of loyalty, when he could of moved on several times. Shaw was always going to go and its to his credit that he signed prro forms for us when the top four all wanted to seal him and we would of got a pittance Lovren is the one that really grates, I am happy at Saints was replaced three weeks later by I will not play for the club again attitude.. Chambers leaving is still a bit of a mystery but the lad was not going to get much chance of first team football here. If we had made Europe Cup then maybe. Poch did a good job whilst he was here but question his ambition with us, if you want to progress a club you do not send a reserve team out for a quarter final in the F.A. Cup when you have nothing else to play for. Cortese should never be belittled he worked wonders for this club. It was he who identified it and persuaded Markus to buy into it. Cortese's drive and determination got us to the Premier and those with short memories should not forget that. He had a vision which he stuck doggedly to. Not everyone's favourite man but he gave this club a lot. Nigel Adkins will always stand out to me as a warm and passionate manager who would of stayed at Saints forever. His beleif of club and fans as one family, His praise for the fans always making them feel a crucial part of the club and his success on the field will never be forgotten. Alan Pardew came to this club when we couldn't even put out a first team, had a 10 point deficit were in div one and we were struggling the first few games as he searched for players to build a side. Almost got us to the play offs. Won us the JPT and should be remembered with respect, because he helped build the foundations of what was to come. Markus what more can you say than THANK YOU and you will always be remembered as the man who not only saved this club but got us back to where we belonged when all hope of even being in existence was fading like a spluttering candle. Five years ago this club nearly died in the depths of div 1, last season we finished 8th in the premier. The likes of Hammond and Chaplow, Hoov's immense performances in the championship, Guly's golden run of 10 goals in our early championship days, both he and Hoov much maligned by Saints fans in recent times. Yet both were so instrumental in our promotion to the Premier. Then finally another word about RL . Rickie Lambert will always be remembered by us as Southampton's Goal Machine. The five year plan is over and its now time to just say thank you even to those we see as villians and betrayers for they all and many more unmentioned played a part in getting us to where we are today. We move on COYR[/p][/quote]Well said, all these people made a contribution, we should put our energy into the team we have this year and not waste it on knocking the ones who got us here ..... but I might just save a cheer for SRL and a bit of gip for Lovren as he is likely the only one of them who will play a full game against us! st.ranger
  • Score: 4

9:46am Tue 2 Sep 14

COYR07 says...

warrens 76 wrote:
milton road wrote:
I think with the dust of the transfer window settling and the emotion both negative and positive beginning to settle its time to be reflective.

RL deserved his move to Liverpool even if he does finish his career for the most part on the bench. Really hope he gts to take part in acouple of CL matches to cap an astonishing last five years or so.

Adam will struggle to get in the first team at Liverpool, if Courtinho cannot get in what chance does Adam have? Yet for all the upset of his going he did give us a decade of loyalty, when he could of moved on several times.

Shaw was always going to go and its to his credit that he signed prro forms for us when the top four all wanted to seal him and we would of got a pittance

Lovren is the one that really grates, I am happy at Saints was replaced three weeks later by I will not play for the club again attitude..

Chambers leaving is still a bit of a mystery but the lad was not going to get much chance of first team football here. If we had made Europe Cup then maybe.

Poch did a good job whilst he was here but question his ambition with us, if you want to progress a club you do not send a reserve team out for a quarter final in the F.A. Cup when you have nothing else to play for.

Cortese should never be belittled he worked wonders for this club. It was he who identified it and persuaded Markus to buy into it. Cortese's drive and determination got us to the Premier and those with short memories should not forget that. He had a vision which he stuck doggedly to. Not everyone's favourite man but he gave this club a lot.

Nigel Adkins will always stand out to me as a warm and passionate manager who would of stayed at Saints forever. His beleif of club and fans as one family, His praise for the fans always making them feel a crucial part of the club and his success on the field will never be forgotten.

Alan Pardew came to this club when we couldn't even put out a first team, had a 10 point deficit were in div one and we were struggling the first few games as he searched for players to build a side. Almost got us to the play offs. Won us the JPT and should be remembered with respect, because he helped build the foundations of what was to come.

Markus what more can you say than THANK YOU and you will always be remembered as the man who not only saved this club but got us back to where we belonged when all hope of even being in existence was fading like a spluttering candle.

Five years ago this club nearly died in the depths of div 1, last season we finished 8th in the premier.

The likes of Hammond and Chaplow, Hoov's immense performances in the championship, Guly's golden run of 10 goals in our early championship days, both he and Hoov much maligned by Saints fans in recent times. Yet both were so instrumental in our promotion to the Premier. Then finally another word about RL . Rickie Lambert will always be remembered by us as Southampton's Goal Machine.

The five year plan is over and its now time to just say thank you even to those we see as villians and betrayers for they all and many more unmentioned played a part in getting us to where we are today.

We move on
COYR
Well written.
Agree great post.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: I think with the dust of the transfer window settling and the emotion both negative and positive beginning to settle its time to be reflective. RL deserved his move to Liverpool even if he does finish his career for the most part on the bench. Really hope he gts to take part in acouple of CL matches to cap an astonishing last five years or so. Adam will struggle to get in the first team at Liverpool, if Courtinho cannot get in what chance does Adam have? Yet for all the upset of his going he did give us a decade of loyalty, when he could of moved on several times. Shaw was always going to go and its to his credit that he signed prro forms for us when the top four all wanted to seal him and we would of got a pittance Lovren is the one that really grates, I am happy at Saints was replaced three weeks later by I will not play for the club again attitude.. Chambers leaving is still a bit of a mystery but the lad was not going to get much chance of first team football here. If we had made Europe Cup then maybe. Poch did a good job whilst he was here but question his ambition with us, if you want to progress a club you do not send a reserve team out for a quarter final in the F.A. Cup when you have nothing else to play for. Cortese should never be belittled he worked wonders for this club. It was he who identified it and persuaded Markus to buy into it. Cortese's drive and determination got us to the Premier and those with short memories should not forget that. He had a vision which he stuck doggedly to. Not everyone's favourite man but he gave this club a lot. Nigel Adkins will always stand out to me as a warm and passionate manager who would of stayed at Saints forever. His beleif of club and fans as one family, His praise for the fans always making them feel a crucial part of the club and his success on the field will never be forgotten. Alan Pardew came to this club when we couldn't even put out a first team, had a 10 point deficit were in div one and we were struggling the first few games as he searched for players to build a side. Almost got us to the play offs. Won us the JPT and should be remembered with respect, because he helped build the foundations of what was to come. Markus what more can you say than THANK YOU and you will always be remembered as the man who not only saved this club but got us back to where we belonged when all hope of even being in existence was fading like a spluttering candle. Five years ago this club nearly died in the depths of div 1, last season we finished 8th in the premier. The likes of Hammond and Chaplow, Hoov's immense performances in the championship, Guly's golden run of 10 goals in our early championship days, both he and Hoov much maligned by Saints fans in recent times. Yet both were so instrumental in our promotion to the Premier. Then finally another word about RL . Rickie Lambert will always be remembered by us as Southampton's Goal Machine. The five year plan is over and its now time to just say thank you even to those we see as villians and betrayers for they all and many more unmentioned played a part in getting us to where we are today. We move on COYR[/p][/quote]Well written.[/p][/quote]Agree great post. COYR07
  • Score: 2

9:47am Tue 2 Sep 14

costa gaz says...

costa gaz wrote:
FINAL RESULT:

Happy Clappers 7-8 Merchants of Doom
Almost the come back of all come backs, 6 weeks ago the HC's were dead and buried, but right at the last minute nearly pulled it off.

There is no doubt we sold some of our best players from last season and hopefully our replacements can gel in double quick time.

What we have now that is different from last season is we now have a squad, last season we had a team + 3/4 subs, now we have 20 odd players all capable of slotting into any system RK decides.

I hope I never have to go through another summer like that ever again and hopefully all posters can get back to our prime objective of supporting our team.
CORRECTION !!!

The result is 7-7
and it was the comeback of all comebacks.
Sorry for the admin error.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: FINAL RESULT: Happy Clappers 7-8 Merchants of Doom Almost the come back of all come backs, 6 weeks ago the HC's were dead and buried, but right at the last minute nearly pulled it off. There is no doubt we sold some of our best players from last season and hopefully our replacements can gel in double quick time. What we have now that is different from last season is we now have a squad, last season we had a team + 3/4 subs, now we have 20 odd players all capable of slotting into any system RK decides. I hope I never have to go through another summer like that ever again and hopefully all posters can get back to our prime objective of supporting our team.[/p][/quote]CORRECTION !!! The result is 7-7 and it was the comeback of all comebacks. Sorry for the admin error. costa gaz
  • Score: -2

9:50am Tue 2 Sep 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

...Who the **** are Tottenham Hotspur? AND THE SAINTS GO MARCHING ON ON ON!!!!
...Who the **** are Tottenham Hotspur? AND THE SAINTS GO MARCHING ON ON ON!!!! SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: 3

9:51am Tue 2 Sep 14

nomorerumours says...

Alicesdad wrote:
New team - and already eighth.

The only was is up.

Ron has truly built a new tam, HIS team. Few managers get that chance so quickly, all credit this season will be to Ron.
99% agree - the other 1% must go to the board for signing our greatest ever manager.
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: New team - and already eighth. The only was is up. Ron has truly built a new tam, HIS team. Few managers get that chance so quickly, all credit this season will be to Ron.[/p][/quote]99% agree - the other 1% must go to the board for signing our greatest ever manager. nomorerumours
  • Score: 3

9:52am Tue 2 Sep 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

costa gaz wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
FINAL RESULT:

Happy Clappers 7-8 Merchants of Doom
Almost the come back of all come backs, 6 weeks ago the HC's were dead and buried, but right at the last minute nearly pulled it off.

There is no doubt we sold some of our best players from last season and hopefully our replacements can gel in double quick time.

What we have now that is different from last season is we now have a squad, last season we had a team + 3/4 subs, now we have 20 odd players all capable of slotting into any system RK decides.

I hope I never have to go through another summer like that ever again and hopefully all posters can get back to our prime objective of supporting our team.
CORRECTION !!!

The result is 7-7
and it was the comeback of all comebacks.
Sorry for the admin error.
#knob

Have some faith in your club.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: FINAL RESULT: Happy Clappers 7-8 Merchants of Doom Almost the come back of all come backs, 6 weeks ago the HC's were dead and buried, but right at the last minute nearly pulled it off. There is no doubt we sold some of our best players from last season and hopefully our replacements can gel in double quick time. What we have now that is different from last season is we now have a squad, last season we had a team + 3/4 subs, now we have 20 odd players all capable of slotting into any system RK decides. I hope I never have to go through another summer like that ever again and hopefully all posters can get back to our prime objective of supporting our team.[/p][/quote]CORRECTION !!! The result is 7-7 and it was the comeback of all comebacks. Sorry for the admin error.[/p][/quote]#knob Have some faith in your club. SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: 8

9:52am Tue 2 Sep 14

Wembley76 says...

Dear Messrs Kreuger & Reed,
You requested us to stay patient and reserve judgement on you and the board until 01/09. Starting from a 'crisis' largely inherited and beyond your control you have responded quietly, diligently and with determination in bringing in a quality manager, more than adequate replacements for the 'spoilt boys' that deserted you, strengthened the squad beyond that of last year and retained key players such as MS & JR. In doing so you have also maintained financial stability and prudence. In essence You have over delivered on your promises, demonstrated real 'ambition', and have provided every saints fan with reasons to be very optimistic about the future for Saints this year and beyond. Whilst there will always be a cynical minority, I believe I speak for the overwhelming majority of Saints fans who wish to say THANK YOU and WELL DONE!!!
Dear Messrs Kreuger & Reed, You requested us to stay patient and reserve judgement on you and the board until 01/09. Starting from a 'crisis' largely inherited and beyond your control you have responded quietly, diligently and with determination in bringing in a quality manager, more than adequate replacements for the 'spoilt boys' that deserted you, strengthened the squad beyond that of last year and retained key players such as MS & JR. In doing so you have also maintained financial stability and prudence. In essence You have over delivered on your promises, demonstrated real 'ambition', and have provided every saints fan with reasons to be very optimistic about the future for Saints this year and beyond. Whilst there will always be a cynical minority, I believe I speak for the overwhelming majority of Saints fans who wish to say THANK YOU and WELL DONE!!! Wembley76
  • Score: 33

9:52am Tue 2 Sep 14

fascia123 says...

jls217 wrote:
saintmac wrote:
I have been critical of the Board in the past but after their sterling efforts over the recent weeks admit that I was wrong.I just wish that they had
explained the situation better at the time.
I think the team is now stronger than before and once they have got to know each other will be a force to be reckoned with.
The most enjoyable deadline day for a long time if a little tense at the end.
They can explain all they want if there are those who live by the saying, "There's none so deaf as those who won't hear"
We have to get way from the notion that the management teams must show us all their cards - the day they start doing that I'll become a neggie, we've just had a great demonstration of how playing your cards close to your chest works, in the lead up to the transfers. Smoke and mirrors and sometimes noisy silences all the time and every day please - it's the only way we are going to beat the money clubs.
To right unlike our friend at sh!te f@rt drain Ronko has played a blinding game for about the last week.

Ronko must have something to be able to pull players saints way when some the supposed bigger clubs are targeting them, maybe this will help come January along with a strong league position.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintmac[/bold] wrote: I have been critical of the Board in the past but after their sterling efforts over the recent weeks admit that I was wrong.I just wish that they had explained the situation better at the time. I think the team is now stronger than before and once they have got to know each other will be a force to be reckoned with. The most enjoyable deadline day for a long time if a little tense at the end.[/p][/quote]They can explain all they want if there are those who live by the saying, "There's none so deaf as those who won't hear" We have to get way from the notion that the management teams must show us all their cards - the day they start doing that I'll become a neggie, we've just had a great demonstration of how playing your cards close to your chest works, in the lead up to the transfers. Smoke and mirrors and sometimes noisy silences all the time and every day please - it's the only way we are going to beat the money clubs.[/p][/quote]To right unlike our friend at sh!te f@rt drain Ronko has played a blinding game for about the last week. Ronko must have something to be able to pull players saints way when some the supposed bigger clubs are targeting them, maybe this will help come January along with a strong league position. fascia123
  • Score: 0

9:57am Tue 2 Sep 14

Wembley76 says...

milton road wrote:
NEW DAWN

I do not think that Morgan Schneiderlin realises that however Saints fans vote in end of season polls, if you ask them who actually is the club's best player, they will say Morgan
.Keeping Morgan who was so instrumental in the five year plan was the most important piece of business we did this summer.

We have a new manager in Koeman and I am really impressed with him, which I am sure he will be glad to hear lol. I really do feel we have a progressive manager who can take us forward and has several plans and ways to play.

The coming in of Bertrand and Tadic has been so seemless that we have not missed Shaw and Lallana. Yoshida has for the main part stepped up and done a good job but then I never doubted he would.

Pelle is taking time to settle and unfortunately the international break comes at a time when he was starting to find goals. He started to look a good player against WH.

Forster has come in and i think he and Buroc are a close call as to who should be first choice they both have different strengths and weaknesses. We do though have two top international keepers now.

We have not seen Florin yet so nothing can really be said.

There are doubts about the wisdom of signing Shane Long but one thing is for sure he will never hide and put in a full shift when asked.

The Cork situation is an inigma, and its a puzzl;e as to why he has not got a new contract, always gives his best and never hides.

In Clyne we have one of the best right backs in the prem. WP is coming on leaps and bounds, we have the strength of Wanyama, the leadership of Fonte.
Toby sounds like a good acquisition and gives us a real challenge for places at the back

If Mane has the pace we believe and skill, then the pace of Tadic, Mane and Rodriguez when fit all playing off Pelle is mouth watering.

I think the new owner has well proved her worth and intent and I think a few should hang their heads in shame. its one thing to criticize someone over their business policy but some of the personal verbal attacks were disgusting.

The new board have seemed to come through and maybe, just maybe have redeemed themselves. Again its one thing to criticize their judgement but personal verbal attacks that are disgusting in nature are totally unnecessary.

Its over its gone we move on and I hope we can takes this as a new beginning a new dawn a clean slate, because it seems to me we have-

A stronger choice of goalkeepers, a stronger defence, at least as good if not better midfield and potentially a better attack and a more experienced squad.

You cannot stop progress as much as you would like to at times and the truth is until we hit Europe we will struggles to keep some players. The close season has been a shock and a painful reminder that however much we have grown, it was not enough to stop being raped by the big clubs.

So as fans and a as a club lets go and rock their socks off and show them we are still going to be improve and grow .
its a new day, a new beginning
COYR
Best statement for months!!!
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: NEW DAWN I do not think that Morgan Schneiderlin realises that however Saints fans vote in end of season polls, if you ask them who actually is the club's best player, they will say Morgan .Keeping Morgan who was so instrumental in the five year plan was the most important piece of business we did this summer. We have a new manager in Koeman and I am really impressed with him, which I am sure he will be glad to hear lol. I really do feel we have a progressive manager who can take us forward and has several plans and ways to play. The coming in of Bertrand and Tadic has been so seemless that we have not missed Shaw and Lallana. Yoshida has for the main part stepped up and done a good job but then I never doubted he would. Pelle is taking time to settle and unfortunately the international break comes at a time when he was starting to find goals. He started to look a good player against WH. Forster has come in and i think he and Buroc are a close call as to who should be first choice they both have different strengths and weaknesses. We do though have two top international keepers now. We have not seen Florin yet so nothing can really be said. There are doubts about the wisdom of signing Shane Long but one thing is for sure he will never hide and put in a full shift when asked. The Cork situation is an inigma, and its a puzzl;e as to why he has not got a new contract, always gives his best and never hides. In Clyne we have one of the best right backs in the prem. WP is coming on leaps and bounds, we have the strength of Wanyama, the leadership of Fonte. Toby sounds like a good acquisition and gives us a real challenge for places at the back If Mane has the pace we believe and skill, then the pace of Tadic, Mane and Rodriguez when fit all playing off Pelle is mouth watering. I think the new owner has well proved her worth and intent and I think a few should hang their heads in shame. its one thing to criticize someone over their business policy but some of the personal verbal attacks were disgusting. The new board have seemed to come through and maybe, just maybe have redeemed themselves. Again its one thing to criticize their judgement but personal verbal attacks that are disgusting in nature are totally unnecessary. Its over its gone we move on and I hope we can takes this as a new beginning a new dawn a clean slate, because it seems to me we have- A stronger choice of goalkeepers, a stronger defence, at least as good if not better midfield and potentially a better attack and a more experienced squad. You cannot stop progress as much as you would like to at times and the truth is until we hit Europe we will struggles to keep some players. The close season has been a shock and a painful reminder that however much we have grown, it was not enough to stop being raped by the big clubs. So as fans and a as a club lets go and rock their socks off and show them we are still going to be improve and grow . its a new day, a new beginning COYR[/p][/quote]Best statement for months!!! Wembley76
  • Score: 4

9:58am Tue 2 Sep 14

SaintPC says...

Congratulations and thank you to the board, the chairman, Les Reed, and ROKO. Many people doubted, many insults were thrown in desperation and anger, you told us to judge on Sept 2nd, you told us to be patient, to believe. It was hard, you were right. We are all delighted and grateful....COYR
Congratulations and thank you to the board, the chairman, Les Reed, and ROKO. Many people doubted, many insults were thrown in desperation and anger, you told us to judge on Sept 2nd, you told us to be patient, to believe. It was hard, you were right. We are all delighted and grateful....COYR SaintPC
  • Score: 4

9:59am Tue 2 Sep 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

fascia123 wrote:
jls217 wrote:
saintmac wrote:
I have been critical of the Board in the past but after their sterling efforts over the recent weeks admit that I was wrong.I just wish that they had
explained the situation better at the time.
I think the team is now stronger than before and once they have got to know each other will be a force to be reckoned with.
The most enjoyable deadline day for a long time if a little tense at the end.
They can explain all they want if there are those who live by the saying, "There's none so deaf as those who won't hear"
We have to get way from the notion that the management teams must show us all their cards - the day they start doing that I'll become a neggie, we've just had a great demonstration of how playing your cards close to your chest works, in the lead up to the transfers. Smoke and mirrors and sometimes noisy silences all the time and every day please - it's the only way we are going to beat the money clubs.
To right unlike our friend at sh!te f@rt drain Ronko has played a blinding game for about the last week.

Ronko must have something to be able to pull players saints way when some the supposed bigger clubs are targeting them, maybe this will help come January along with a strong league position.
Just don't ask a magician how he does his tricks :)
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintmac[/bold] wrote: I have been critical of the Board in the past but after their sterling efforts over the recent weeks admit that I was wrong.I just wish that they had explained the situation better at the time. I think the team is now stronger than before and once they have got to know each other will be a force to be reckoned with. The most enjoyable deadline day for a long time if a little tense at the end.[/p][/quote]They can explain all they want if there are those who live by the saying, "There's none so deaf as those who won't hear" We have to get way from the notion that the management teams must show us all their cards - the day they start doing that I'll become a neggie, we've just had a great demonstration of how playing your cards close to your chest works, in the lead up to the transfers. Smoke and mirrors and sometimes noisy silences all the time and every day please - it's the only way we are going to beat the money clubs.[/p][/quote]To right unlike our friend at sh!te f@rt drain Ronko has played a blinding game for about the last week. Ronko must have something to be able to pull players saints way when some the supposed bigger clubs are targeting them, maybe this will help come January along with a strong league position.[/p][/quote]Just don't ask a magician how he does his tricks :) KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 1

10:03am Tue 2 Sep 14

Positively4thStreet says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Roger me sideways and call me a badger, Tadic and Forster are nailed on success's…Pelle probably, Gardos we have not seen yet, I have seen Mane and what a handful…the defence is absolutely stronger than last two years now…never thought I would say that..

I have been sick as a parrot over the summer becuase of what at the time 'was' the wholesale and unprecedented destruction of much of our team with no obvious plan…

..for those who had in hindsight 'justifiable' blind faith well done but seriously if your missus went out every night and came in the early hours, told you several things that at the time clearly did not add up then tell me you would not be very concerned, the fact she has taken a secret part time job and working for your interest would not stop the doubt at the time..

I digress, last year our possession was a joy to behold but it would be naive to ignore the lack of cutting edge and the nervouseness when we had to play Hooiveld

…Boruc out and we lost almost every time so as he stays as well happy days.

Long was identified long ago as fitted to our style so who can tell if this is wrong or right yet.

Ramirez and Osvaldo never delivered Pelle already has..so even this Saints fan can see that the complaints of last year have been seriously addressed.

One thing I do like is that when we play our style has not changed meaning to the team ethic and style remains, perhaps therefore some of the the players who left 'where' made to look good by the collective…

All in all if this works it will work big I see no middle ground we will either flatter to deceive because of the Spam result or the peices will all fit (looks likely) and we wil keep the best of last year and dispose of the worst and that could be (referee's aside as we are not favored ilk e the brand clubs) +16 points on last year.
Good post Warrens.We have also slipped in under the BBC's radar again,and could deliver some knockout blows which might take them by surprise,which they will then have to grudgingly acknowledge.
Even more pleasing is, we never got Townsend.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Roger me sideways and call me a badger, Tadic and Forster are nailed on success's…Pelle probably, Gardos we have not seen yet, I have seen Mane and what a handful…the defence is absolutely stronger than last two years now…never thought I would say that.. I have been sick as a parrot over the summer becuase of what at the time 'was' the wholesale and unprecedented destruction of much of our team with no obvious plan… ..for those who had in hindsight 'justifiable' blind faith well done but seriously if your missus went out every night and came in the early hours, told you several things that at the time clearly did not add up then tell me you would not be very concerned, the fact she has taken a secret part time job and working for your interest would not stop the doubt at the time.. I digress, last year our possession was a joy to behold but it would be naive to ignore the lack of cutting edge and the nervouseness when we had to play Hooiveld …Boruc out and we lost almost every time so as he stays as well happy days. Long was identified long ago as fitted to our style so who can tell if this is wrong or right yet. Ramirez and Osvaldo never delivered Pelle already has..so even this Saints fan can see that the complaints of last year have been seriously addressed. One thing I do like is that when we play our style has not changed meaning to the team ethic and style remains, perhaps therefore some of the the players who left 'where' made to look good by the collective… All in all if this works it will work big I see no middle ground we will either flatter to deceive because of the Spam result or the peices will all fit (looks likely) and we wil keep the best of last year and dispose of the worst and that could be (referee's aside as we are not favored ilk e the brand clubs) +16 points on last year.[/p][/quote]Good post Warrens.We have also slipped in under the BBC's radar again,and could deliver some knockout blows which might take them by surprise,which they will then have to grudgingly acknowledge. Even more pleasing is, we never got Townsend. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 6

10:04am Tue 2 Sep 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

I wish I could be at the game against Newcastle. I would love to hear the renewed vigor in the supporters chants. I envy you guys that can go and see the games live.
I wish I could be at the game against Newcastle. I would love to hear the renewed vigor in the supporters chants. I envy you guys that can go and see the games live. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 4

10:05am Tue 2 Sep 14

nomorerumours says...

jls217 wrote:
jls217 wrote:
KSO16R wrote:
Fair to say the board at sfc know a lot more about running a premier league football club than any of the posters on here and indeed most of the journalists reporting on our club over the summer.
Been trying to say just that for months.
In the light of the new 'fessing up mood which seems to have swept over us faster than Rolf Harris's eyes looking for a boy scout, I feel it appropriate to apologize to those whose knackers I might have trodden on in the pursuance of my above post. I try not to get wound up and bite - sometimes I fail and get carried away.
For those I threatened to shoot I also apologize but I am weak and also have to 'fess up to wanting to empty the mag into you.
I've been with you all the way. The bit about getting wound up can be likened to Suarez. He tried not to get wound up and bite but sometimes failed and he got carried away (to another country)!!!

Anyway, almost all our fans are now reunited and behind our squad, our manager and the board. We have such a young and talented group of players who will go on improving for years. We have nothing but incredible success and silverware ahead of us. RonKo's ambitions and dreams will become a reality and we can all watch on as the Saints make history.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KSO16R[/bold] wrote: Fair to say the board at sfc know a lot more about running a premier league football club than any of the posters on here and indeed most of the journalists reporting on our club over the summer.[/p][/quote]Been trying to say just that for months.[/p][/quote]In the light of the new 'fessing up mood which seems to have swept over us faster than Rolf Harris's eyes looking for a boy scout, I feel it appropriate to apologize to those whose knackers I might have trodden on in the pursuance of my above post. I try not to get wound up and bite - sometimes I fail and get carried away. For those I threatened to shoot I also apologize but I am weak and also have to 'fess up to wanting to empty the mag into you.[/p][/quote]I've been with you all the way. The bit about getting wound up can be likened to Suarez. He tried not to get wound up and bite but sometimes failed and he got carried away (to another country)!!! Anyway, almost all our fans are now reunited and behind our squad, our manager and the board. We have such a young and talented group of players who will go on improving for years. We have nothing but incredible success and silverware ahead of us. RonKo's ambitions and dreams will become a reality and we can all watch on as the Saints make history. nomorerumours
  • Score: 5

10:09am Tue 2 Sep 14

nomorerumours says...

Wembley76 wrote:
Dear Messrs Kreuger & Reed,
You requested us to stay patient and reserve judgement on you and the board until 01/09. Starting from a 'crisis' largely inherited and beyond your control you have responded quietly, diligently and with determination in bringing in a quality manager, more than adequate replacements for the 'spoilt boys' that deserted you, strengthened the squad beyond that of last year and retained key players such as MS & JR. In doing so you have also maintained financial stability and prudence. In essence You have over delivered on your promises, demonstrated real 'ambition', and have provided every saints fan with reasons to be very optimistic about the future for Saints this year and beyond. Whilst there will always be a cynical minority, I believe I speak for the overwhelming majority of Saints fans who wish to say THANK YOU and WELL DONE!!!
Absolutely spot on. Great post.
[quote][p][bold]Wembley76[/bold] wrote: Dear Messrs Kreuger & Reed, You requested us to stay patient and reserve judgement on you and the board until 01/09. Starting from a 'crisis' largely inherited and beyond your control you have responded quietly, diligently and with determination in bringing in a quality manager, more than adequate replacements for the 'spoilt boys' that deserted you, strengthened the squad beyond that of last year and retained key players such as MS & JR. In doing so you have also maintained financial stability and prudence. In essence You have over delivered on your promises, demonstrated real 'ambition', and have provided every saints fan with reasons to be very optimistic about the future for Saints this year and beyond. Whilst there will always be a cynical minority, I believe I speak for the overwhelming majority of Saints fans who wish to say THANK YOU and WELL DONE!!![/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on. Great post. nomorerumours
  • Score: 6

10:09am Tue 2 Sep 14

Mister E says...

Think I've got a touch of the happy clappers .......I just can't stop clapping!

God, I just love being a Saints fan!
Think I've got a touch of the happy clappers .......I just can't stop clapping! God, I just love being a Saints fan! Mister E
  • Score: 6

10:20am Tue 2 Sep 14

Mister E says...

nomorerumours wrote:
Wembley76 wrote:
Dear Messrs Kreuger & Reed,
You requested us to stay patient and reserve judgement on you and the board until 01/09. Starting from a 'crisis' largely inherited and beyond your control you have responded quietly, diligently and with determination in bringing in a quality manager, more than adequate replacements for the 'spoilt boys' that deserted you, strengthened the squad beyond that of last year and retained key players such as MS & JR. In doing so you have also maintained financial stability and prudence. In essence You have over delivered on your promises, demonstrated real 'ambition', and have provided every saints fan with reasons to be very optimistic about the future for Saints this year and beyond. Whilst there will always be a cynical minority, I believe I speak for the overwhelming majority of Saints fans who wish to say THANK YOU and WELL DONE!!!
Absolutely spot on. Great post.
Here, here!
Well said.
[quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wembley76[/bold] wrote: Dear Messrs Kreuger & Reed, You requested us to stay patient and reserve judgement on you and the board until 01/09. Starting from a 'crisis' largely inherited and beyond your control you have responded quietly, diligently and with determination in bringing in a quality manager, more than adequate replacements for the 'spoilt boys' that deserted you, strengthened the squad beyond that of last year and retained key players such as MS & JR. In doing so you have also maintained financial stability and prudence. In essence You have over delivered on your promises, demonstrated real 'ambition', and have provided every saints fan with reasons to be very optimistic about the future for Saints this year and beyond. Whilst there will always be a cynical minority, I believe I speak for the overwhelming majority of Saints fans who wish to say THANK YOU and WELL DONE!!![/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on. Great post.[/p][/quote]Here, here! Well said. Mister E
  • Score: 4

10:22am Tue 2 Sep 14

Dgginger says...

Well they said its time to judge...

I think we are slightly weaker .....but it looked as though it was going to be much worse.

It's tough to know though

I think we have less quality but we have a bit more experience that might count for something if you sell 25 million pound players and buy 10 million pound guys you are probably gonna lose out somewhere. That's where it is so tough and frustrating.

I'd be surprised if Gardos and Mane cut it in the Premier League but they are worth the gamble but Alderweireld looked solid at World Cup he should improve us. I think Forster and Long were massively overpriced but better spend the money than take it to the championship....and that's not going to happen now.

I still think a lot comes down to whether Tadic and Pelle can do it week in out, hopefully they can but as we saw with Rameriez flashes here and there aren't really enough. I don't think he's a big loss.

I think we have enough to challenge week in week out as the board said we would, and I doubted that a few weeks ago. I don't think we got our top targets which seemed to be Rojo and Townsend but you know that's life... Maybe yesterday's signings will work out better in the end.

At least there is some positivity now. I think we have been the better team in all the games we have played even the one we lost and it's not like we have had easy games keep in mind we've had two away and West ham and Liverpool are tough trips in my book....and in both of those games we have been down and come back, which is really encouraging.

Ron seems to be doing a good job and so fingers crossed he's found some gems. He took over a club all at sea and he's doing great, he could be the most important signing of all.

And there is still money for January....

7 out of 10.
Well they said its time to judge... I think we are slightly weaker .....but it looked as though it was going to be much worse. It's tough to know though I think we have less quality but we have a bit more experience that might count for something if you sell 25 million pound players and buy 10 million pound guys you are probably gonna lose out somewhere. That's where it is so tough and frustrating. I'd be surprised if Gardos and Mane cut it in the Premier League but they are worth the gamble but Alderweireld looked solid at World Cup he should improve us. I think Forster and Long were massively overpriced but better spend the money than take it to the championship....and that's not going to happen now. I still think a lot comes down to whether Tadic and Pelle can do it week in out, hopefully they can but as we saw with Rameriez flashes here and there aren't really enough. I don't think he's a big loss. I think we have enough to challenge week in week out as the board said we would, and I doubted that a few weeks ago. I don't think we got our top targets which seemed to be Rojo and Townsend but you know that's life... Maybe yesterday's signings will work out better in the end. At least there is some positivity now. I think we have been the better team in all the games we have played even the one we lost and it's not like we have had easy games keep in mind we've had two away and West ham and Liverpool are tough trips in my book....and in both of those games we have been down and come back, which is really encouraging. Ron seems to be doing a good job and so fingers crossed he's found some gems. He took over a club all at sea and he's doing great, he could be the most important signing of all. And there is still money for January.... 7 out of 10. Dgginger
  • Score: -8

10:23am Tue 2 Sep 14

yellowcard says...

Good bit of business and will leave £20 million in the kitty for janaury.
Good bit of business and will leave £20 million in the kitty for janaury. yellowcard
  • Score: 1

10:28am Tue 2 Sep 14

Buddy SFC says...

Mister E wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
Wembley76 wrote:
Dear Messrs Kreuger & Reed,
You requested us to stay patient and reserve judgement on you and the board until 01/09. Starting from a 'crisis' largely inherited and beyond your control you have responded quietly, diligently and with determination in bringing in a quality manager, more than adequate replacements for the 'spoilt boys' that deserted you, strengthened the squad beyond that of last year and retained key players such as MS & JR. In doing so you have also maintained financial stability and prudence. In essence You have over delivered on your promises, demonstrated real 'ambition', and have provided every saints fan with reasons to be very optimistic about the future for Saints this year and beyond. Whilst there will always be a cynical minority, I believe I speak for the overwhelming majority of Saints fans who wish to say THANK YOU and WELL DONE!!!
Absolutely spot on. Great post.
Here, here!
Well said.
3rd that ....................
....
[quote][p][bold]Mister E[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wembley76[/bold] wrote: Dear Messrs Kreuger & Reed, You requested us to stay patient and reserve judgement on you and the board until 01/09. Starting from a 'crisis' largely inherited and beyond your control you have responded quietly, diligently and with determination in bringing in a quality manager, more than adequate replacements for the 'spoilt boys' that deserted you, strengthened the squad beyond that of last year and retained key players such as MS & JR. In doing so you have also maintained financial stability and prudence. In essence You have over delivered on your promises, demonstrated real 'ambition', and have provided every saints fan with reasons to be very optimistic about the future for Saints this year and beyond. Whilst there will always be a cynical minority, I believe I speak for the overwhelming majority of Saints fans who wish to say THANK YOU and WELL DONE!!![/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on. Great post.[/p][/quote]Here, here! Well said.[/p][/quote]3rd that .................... .... Buddy SFC
  • Score: 0

10:32am Tue 2 Sep 14

SaintJD says...

costa gaz wrote:
FINAL RESULT:

Happy Clappers 7-8 Merchants of Doom
Almost the come back of all come backs, 6 weeks ago the HC's were dead and buried, but right at the last minute nearly pulled it off.

There is no doubt we sold some of our best players from last season and hopefully our replacements can gel in double quick time.

What we have now that is different from last season is we now have a squad, last season we had a team + 3/4 subs, now we have 20 odd players all capable of slotting into any system RK decides.

I hope I never have to go through another summer like that ever again and hopefully all posters can get back to our prime objective of supporting our team.
They could, but you couldn't help yourself getting the score wrong. Just bite the bullet and admit the merchants of doom didn't win and we can all happily put the summer behind us and march on together - even the Echo have a touch of the 'clap' this morning and it's unusual to be happy about that when you wake up.

I've had a bit of a weird summer trying to be balanced, disagreeing with the clappers on many occasions and the neggies on many other occasions, but I think the end result, based on what we know so far, is probably a score draw at the very worst. And, at the end of the day, it always feels better to come from 7-1 down to get a result than the other way around.

It will take us a while to get back up to where we were last season (although eighth with a winnable home game coming up isn't looking too bad) but I'm optimistic, without pretending we will have the odd lull due to the upheaval we've gone through.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: FINAL RESULT: Happy Clappers 7-8 Merchants of Doom Almost the come back of all come backs, 6 weeks ago the HC's were dead and buried, but right at the last minute nearly pulled it off. There is no doubt we sold some of our best players from last season and hopefully our replacements can gel in double quick time. What we have now that is different from last season is we now have a squad, last season we had a team + 3/4 subs, now we have 20 odd players all capable of slotting into any system RK decides. I hope I never have to go through another summer like that ever again and hopefully all posters can get back to our prime objective of supporting our team.[/p][/quote]They could, but you couldn't help yourself getting the score wrong. Just bite the bullet and admit the merchants of doom didn't win and we can all happily put the summer behind us and march on together - even the Echo have a touch of the 'clap' this morning and it's unusual to be happy about that when you wake up. I've had a bit of a weird summer trying to be balanced, disagreeing with the clappers on many occasions and the neggies on many other occasions, but I think the end result, based on what we know so far, is probably a score draw at the very worst. And, at the end of the day, it always feels better to come from 7-1 down to get a result than the other way around. It will take us a while to get back up to where we were last season (although eighth with a winnable home game coming up isn't looking too bad) but I'm optimistic, without pretending we will have the odd lull due to the upheaval we've gone through. SaintJD
  • Score: 2

10:34am Tue 2 Sep 14

SaintJD says...

Not much mention of Jack Cork this morning. There was near mutiny when he was rumoured to be off last week so this is another piece of great news. Now let's see him make a massive impact and get him signed up asap.
Not much mention of Jack Cork this morning. There was near mutiny when he was rumoured to be off last week so this is another piece of great news. Now let's see him make a massive impact and get him signed up asap. SaintJD
  • Score: 7

10:35am Tue 2 Sep 14

right back in the bar says...

Alicesdad wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
I very much like the idea that this season we have a manager capable of not running out of ideas, early days but horrible WBA game aside (why was that) we have changed our style in three seperate games now, always second half but who cares..
Very good point among all the banner waving and cheering !!

It's not quite clear what the "Southampton Way" is just at the moment. It's still attacking, it's still based on posession and we now have a squad of quality. The new team has not had time to find it's long term shape yet though and the "spirit" that we undoubtedly had will have to be remade and cultivated. That will come. Ron now has so many players he is going to have problems keeping them all happy thats for sure and competition for places is going to be fierce.
The Southampton way is the right way of doing things that extents out beyond the business that takes place on the field of play. Liken it to a company with an identifiable culture. We have seen the evidence of it throughout the close season. We were happy to let go of the players who through their development at SFC and own self regard had apparently outgrown the club; who craved the adulation of a bigger fan base, a bigger pay packet, and instant success, and were no longer committed to what we were trying to build. At the same time some astute mind games and strong negotiating meant we secured a mountain of wealth in transfer fees for these players. The club moved to reassure the fans that this money would be used to strengthen the squad; and it was - through a highly developed scouting system that identifies talent and real value. The only time the Board were compelled to issue a statement, rather than pandering to media cravings for a story and shown up to be weak for taking a defensive stance, was to reassure the fans that the money would be reinvested. They honoured that promise.
The end game in all this is a squad that is stronger and more committed than last season's. In summary the club has acted with integrity thorough out this fraught period - keeping the players it wanted to keep; maintaining a sensible wage structure, paying off its debts, and ensuring the long term sustainability and future of the football club. This the Southampton way. The icing on the cake and the bit that we see are the individuals on the pitch who have been schooled in craft and guile, and the passing game, and under the tutelage of the coaching play a fast attacking brand of winning football.
Be proud now to support your team.
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: I very much like the idea that this season we have a manager capable of not running out of ideas, early days but horrible WBA game aside (why was that) we have changed our style in three seperate games now, always second half but who cares..[/p][/quote]Very good point among all the banner waving and cheering !! It's not quite clear what the "Southampton Way" is just at the moment. It's still attacking, it's still based on posession and we now have a squad of quality. The new team has not had time to find it's long term shape yet though and the "spirit" that we undoubtedly had will have to be remade and cultivated. That will come. Ron now has so many players he is going to have problems keeping them all happy thats for sure and competition for places is going to be fierce.[/p][/quote]The Southampton way is the right way of doing things that extents out beyond the business that takes place on the field of play. Liken it to a company with an identifiable culture. We have seen the evidence of it throughout the close season. We were happy to let go of the players who through their development at SFC and own self regard had apparently outgrown the club; who craved the adulation of a bigger fan base, a bigger pay packet, and instant success, and were no longer committed to what we were trying to build. At the same time some astute mind games and strong negotiating meant we secured a mountain of wealth in transfer fees for these players. The club moved to reassure the fans that this money would be used to strengthen the squad; and it was - through a highly developed scouting system that identifies talent and real value. The only time the Board were compelled to issue a statement, rather than pandering to media cravings for a story and shown up to be weak for taking a defensive stance, was to reassure the fans that the money would be reinvested. They honoured that promise. The end game in all this is a squad that is stronger and more committed than last season's. In summary the club has acted with integrity thorough out this fraught period - keeping the players it wanted to keep; maintaining a sensible wage structure, paying off its debts, and ensuring the long term sustainability and future of the football club. This the Southampton way. The icing on the cake and the bit that we see are the individuals on the pitch who have been schooled in craft and guile, and the passing game, and under the tutelage of the coaching play a fast attacking brand of winning football. Be proud now to support your team. right back in the bar
  • Score: 5

10:39am Tue 2 Sep 14

Confucious says...

Phew! A late offer came in from QPR's office services manager for Mrs Wilson last night but she told him to go forth and multiply. It was vital we kept this critical conduit for fast communication with RoKo - not least because the right team selection and tactics will be tricky until the new players settle in. Indeed I haven't even settled my own mind yet on a 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 or 4-3-1-1 or 3-4-1-2, though I have ruled out a 4-5-1.

Thanks for the loyalty Mrs Wilson. Unlike the treacherous cow in Warrens' analogy, you're an absolute diamond.
Phew! A late offer came in from QPR's office services manager for Mrs Wilson last night but she told him to go forth and multiply. It was vital we kept this critical conduit for fast communication with RoKo - not least because the right team selection and tactics will be tricky until the new players settle in. Indeed I haven't even settled my own mind yet on a 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 or 4-3-1-1 or 3-4-1-2, though I have ruled out a 4-5-1. Thanks for the loyalty Mrs Wilson. Unlike the treacherous cow in Warrens' analogy, you're an absolute diamond. Confucious
  • Score: 3

10:40am Tue 2 Sep 14

fascia123 says...

Buddy SFC wrote:
Mister E wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
Wembley76 wrote:
Dear Messrs Kreuger & Reed,
You requested us to stay patient and reserve judgement on you and the board until 01/09. Starting from a 'crisis' largely inherited and beyond your control you have responded quietly, diligently and with determination in bringing in a quality manager, more than adequate replacements for the 'spoilt boys' that deserted you, strengthened the squad beyond that of last year and retained key players such as MS & JR. In doing so you have also maintained financial stability and prudence. In essence You have over delivered on your promises, demonstrated real 'ambition', and have provided every saints fan with reasons to be very optimistic about the future for Saints this year and beyond. Whilst there will always be a cynical minority, I believe I speak for the overwhelming majority of Saints fans who wish to say THANK YOU and WELL DONE!!!
Absolutely spot on. Great post.
Here, here!
Well said.
3rd that ....................

....
Spot on from me
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mister E[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wembley76[/bold] wrote: Dear Messrs Kreuger & Reed, You requested us to stay patient and reserve judgement on you and the board until 01/09. Starting from a 'crisis' largely inherited and beyond your control you have responded quietly, diligently and with determination in bringing in a quality manager, more than adequate replacements for the 'spoilt boys' that deserted you, strengthened the squad beyond that of last year and retained key players such as MS & JR. In doing so you have also maintained financial stability and prudence. In essence You have over delivered on your promises, demonstrated real 'ambition', and have provided every saints fan with reasons to be very optimistic about the future for Saints this year and beyond. Whilst there will always be a cynical minority, I believe I speak for the overwhelming majority of Saints fans who wish to say THANK YOU and WELL DONE!!![/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on. Great post.[/p][/quote]Here, here! Well said.[/p][/quote]3rd that .................... ....[/p][/quote]Spot on from me fascia123
  • Score: 0

10:45am Tue 2 Sep 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Roger me sideways and call me a badger, Tadic and Forster are nailed on success's…Pelle probably, Gardos we have not seen yet, I have seen Mane and what a handful…the defence is absolutely stronger than last two years now…never thought I would say that..

I have been sick as a parrot over the summer becuase of what at the time 'was' the wholesale and unprecedented destruction of much of our team with no obvious plan…

..for those who had in hindsight 'justifiable' blind faith well done but seriously if your missus went out every night and came in the early hours, told you several things that at the time clearly did not add up then tell me you would not be very concerned, the fact she has taken a secret part time job and working for your interest would not stop the doubt at the time..

I digress, last year our possession was a joy to behold but it would be naive to ignore the lack of cutting edge and the nervouseness when we had to play Hooiveld

…Boruc out and we lost almost every time so as he stays as well happy days.

Long was identified long ago as fitted to our style so who can tell if this is wrong or right yet.

Ramirez and Osvaldo never delivered Pelle already has..so even this Saints fan can see that the complaints of last year have been seriously addressed.

One thing I do like is that when we play our style has not changed meaning to the team ethic and style remains, perhaps therefore some of the the players who left 'where' made to look good by the collective…

All in all if this works it will work big I see no middle ground we will either flatter to deceive because of the Spam result or the peices will all fit (looks likely) and we wil keep the best of last year and dispose of the worst and that could be (referee's aside as we are not favored ilk e the brand clubs) +16 points on last year.
Would be great to meet for another beer, Warrens, and I don't mind calling you a badger but the other bit in your first line would, for me at least, be a 'cunning plan' too far!

That +16 points on last year sounds mighty fine, though.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Roger me sideways and call me a badger, Tadic and Forster are nailed on success's…Pelle probably, Gardos we have not seen yet, I have seen Mane and what a handful…the defence is absolutely stronger than last two years now…never thought I would say that.. I have been sick as a parrot over the summer becuase of what at the time 'was' the wholesale and unprecedented destruction of much of our team with no obvious plan… ..for those who had in hindsight 'justifiable' blind faith well done but seriously if your missus went out every night and came in the early hours, told you several things that at the time clearly did not add up then tell me you would not be very concerned, the fact she has taken a secret part time job and working for your interest would not stop the doubt at the time.. I digress, last year our possession was a joy to behold but it would be naive to ignore the lack of cutting edge and the nervouseness when we had to play Hooiveld …Boruc out and we lost almost every time so as he stays as well happy days. Long was identified long ago as fitted to our style so who can tell if this is wrong or right yet. Ramirez and Osvaldo never delivered Pelle already has..so even this Saints fan can see that the complaints of last year have been seriously addressed. One thing I do like is that when we play our style has not changed meaning to the team ethic and style remains, perhaps therefore some of the the players who left 'where' made to look good by the collective… All in all if this works it will work big I see no middle ground we will either flatter to deceive because of the Spam result or the peices will all fit (looks likely) and we wil keep the best of last year and dispose of the worst and that could be (referee's aside as we are not favored ilk e the brand clubs) +16 points on last year.[/p][/quote]Would be great to meet for another beer, Warrens, and I don't mind calling you a badger but the other bit in your first line would, for me at least, be a 'cunning plan' too far! That +16 points on last year sounds mighty fine, though. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 3

10:46am Tue 2 Sep 14

Buddy SFC says...

Shhhhhhhhhhh the silence is deafening from the likes of 'Sammy Skate' and others !

Well done KL, The Board and RonKom ............... Now lets see some big crowds and rock the away sides with some noise ???? !! ????
Shhhhhhhhhhh the silence is deafening from the likes of 'Sammy Skate' and others ! Well done KL, The Board and RonKom ............... Now lets see some big crowds and rock the away sides with some noise ???? !! ???? Buddy SFC
  • Score: 3

10:47am Tue 2 Sep 14

CamboSaint says...

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
I wish I could be at the game against Newcastle. I would love to hear the renewed vigor in the supporters chants. I envy you guys that can go and see the games live.
Here here Kiwi, my sentiments exactly.
The only item on my bucket list that I am determined to achieve!
COYR!! STID!!
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: I wish I could be at the game against Newcastle. I would love to hear the renewed vigor in the supporters chants. I envy you guys that can go and see the games live.[/p][/quote]Here here Kiwi, my sentiments exactly. The only item on my bucket list that I am determined to achieve! COYR!! STID!! CamboSaint
  • Score: 1

10:51am Tue 2 Sep 14

warrens 76 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Roger me sideways and call me a badger, Tadic and Forster are nailed on success's…Pelle probably, Gardos we have not seen yet, I have seen Mane and what a handful…the defence is absolutely stronger than last two years now…never thought I would say that..

I have been sick as a parrot over the summer becuase of what at the time 'was' the wholesale and unprecedented destruction of much of our team with no obvious plan…

..for those who had in hindsight 'justifiable' blind faith well done but seriously if your missus went out every night and came in the early hours, told you several things that at the time clearly did not add up then tell me you would not be very concerned, the fact she has taken a secret part time job and working for your interest would not stop the doubt at the time..

I digress, last year our possession was a joy to behold but it would be naive to ignore the lack of cutting edge and the nervouseness when we had to play Hooiveld

…Boruc out and we lost almost every time so as he stays as well happy days.

Long was identified long ago as fitted to our style so who can tell if this is wrong or right yet.

Ramirez and Osvaldo never delivered Pelle already has..so even this Saints fan can see that the complaints of last year have been seriously addressed.

One thing I do like is that when we play our style has not changed meaning to the team ethic and style remains, perhaps therefore some of the the players who left 'where' made to look good by the collective…

All in all if this works it will work big I see no middle ground we will either flatter to deceive because of the Spam result or the peices will all fit (looks likely) and we wil keep the best of last year and dispose of the worst and that could be (referee's aside as we are not favored ilk e the brand clubs) +16 points on last year.
Would be great to meet for another beer, Warrens, and I don't mind calling you a badger but the other bit in your first line would, for me at least, be a 'cunning plan' too far!

That +16 points on last year sounds mighty fine, though.
Wilko, Jules and i are doing Arsenal in december but i know you cannot make that one…
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Roger me sideways and call me a badger, Tadic and Forster are nailed on success's…Pelle probably, Gardos we have not seen yet, I have seen Mane and what a handful…the defence is absolutely stronger than last two years now…never thought I would say that.. I have been sick as a parrot over the summer becuase of what at the time 'was' the wholesale and unprecedented destruction of much of our team with no obvious plan… ..for those who had in hindsight 'justifiable' blind faith well done but seriously if your missus went out every night and came in the early hours, told you several things that at the time clearly did not add up then tell me you would not be very concerned, the fact she has taken a secret part time job and working for your interest would not stop the doubt at the time.. I digress, last year our possession was a joy to behold but it would be naive to ignore the lack of cutting edge and the nervouseness when we had to play Hooiveld …Boruc out and we lost almost every time so as he stays as well happy days. Long was identified long ago as fitted to our style so who can tell if this is wrong or right yet. Ramirez and Osvaldo never delivered Pelle already has..so even this Saints fan can see that the complaints of last year have been seriously addressed. One thing I do like is that when we play our style has not changed meaning to the team ethic and style remains, perhaps therefore some of the the players who left 'where' made to look good by the collective… All in all if this works it will work big I see no middle ground we will either flatter to deceive because of the Spam result or the peices will all fit (looks likely) and we wil keep the best of last year and dispose of the worst and that could be (referee's aside as we are not favored ilk e the brand clubs) +16 points on last year.[/p][/quote]Would be great to meet for another beer, Warrens, and I don't mind calling you a badger but the other bit in your first line would, for me at least, be a 'cunning plan' too far! That +16 points on last year sounds mighty fine, though.[/p][/quote]Wilko, Jules and i are doing Arsenal in december but i know you cannot make that one… warrens 76
  • Score: 0

11:10am Tue 2 Sep 14

SaintJD says...

Les and Ralph asked us to judge them after the window closed based on the strength of the squad verses last season.

I'm going to try to be fair, based on the fact that several of the newer signings are unknown quantities and the others have only played a few games compared to those they replaced.

KEEPERS: Forster and Boruc vs Boruc and Davis/Gazza
A clear improvement, can't be questioned, quality signing who has hit the ground running and is a collossus, excellent cover.

DEFENCE: Bertrand, Clyne, Florin, Toby, Fonte, Mayuka, Targett vs Clyne, Hoover, Fonte, Maya, Lovren, Shaw and Fox.

This is the only real unknown quantity I can't judge on due to Toby and Florin having yet to play. Based on the other signings we've made this summer and on Bertrand I have to be optimistic.

Bertrand isn't as dymamic or eye catching as Shaw, but he catches the eye in a different way because he is impressive and solid both going forward and in defence, much more of a finished product and, on the basis of price, I'd take Bertrand every time and invest in a good keeper, as we undoubtably have. Hoover and Fox are positive departures.

MIDFIELD: Won't go through the full list as we are so well stocked and I'm tiring :) but we're at least as strong in this area, if not better.

Spider seems to have stepped up his game, Cork seems to be motivated to earn a starting place, Victor will benefit from an extra season in the Prem, JWP is going to be class and get assists and goals, Davis is underated. Our strongest part of the squad (although arguably the keeping department is very strong too and I can't believe I'm saying that).

ATTACK: Tadic, Mane, Pelle, Long, Jay Rod, Isgrove, Sam vs Rickie, Adam, Guly, Sharp, Sam, Gaston and Jay Rod (apologies if I've missed anyone - left out Barnard on purpose in fairness to the old squad).

Again, difficult to make a lasting judgement as it's such early days, but my overall impression is that our new attack (in theory) has no weak links or dead wood (unlike the old) and all the players are likely to improve.

In the old squad we had Rickie one year older, Guly and Sharp, plus an inconsistent Gaston. Of course we'll have to wait and see on their replacements, but I'd be very surprised if the current group is anything but a step forward.

Tadic looks a worthy replacement for Adam and Pelle is more of a conventional target man than Rickie, who because more of a Rooney style link up player as the seasons went on. Long is clearly a far better option than Guly, Isgrove, Jay Rod and Mane add raw pace and energy.

MANAGER: As for Ron, again too early to judge and he had perhaps the biggest boots to fill following last season (despite the treason), but every sign I've seen so far is massively positive.

OVERALL:
So, overall, I think that even with some players yet to be judged, we are unquestionably better squad wise overall. Lovren, as I think we all knew, is probably the hardest player to replace, but we may well have done it.

Obviously I've mentioned the odd player (JWP, Targett, Isgrove) we already would have had coming through, but I think their integration has been stepped up big time and they are more fully fledged squad members.

So Ralph and Les - congratulations, you turned it around. Remarkable work and a great foundation to build on.
Les and Ralph asked us to judge them after the window closed based on the strength of the squad verses last season. I'm going to try to be fair, based on the fact that several of the newer signings are unknown quantities and the others have only played a few games compared to those they replaced. KEEPERS: Forster and Boruc vs Boruc and Davis/Gazza A clear improvement, can't be questioned, quality signing who has hit the ground running and is a collossus, excellent cover. DEFENCE: Bertrand, Clyne, Florin, Toby, Fonte, Mayuka, Targett vs Clyne, Hoover, Fonte, Maya, Lovren, Shaw and Fox. This is the only real unknown quantity I can't judge on due to Toby and Florin having yet to play. Based on the other signings we've made this summer and on Bertrand I have to be optimistic. Bertrand isn't as dymamic or eye catching as Shaw, but he catches the eye in a different way because he is impressive and solid both going forward and in defence, much more of a finished product and, on the basis of price, I'd take Bertrand every time and invest in a good keeper, as we undoubtably have. Hoover and Fox are positive departures. MIDFIELD: Won't go through the full list as we are so well stocked and I'm tiring :) but we're at least as strong in this area, if not better. Spider seems to have stepped up his game, Cork seems to be motivated to earn a starting place, Victor will benefit from an extra season in the Prem, JWP is going to be class and get assists and goals, Davis is underated. Our strongest part of the squad (although arguably the keeping department is very strong too and I can't believe I'm saying that). ATTACK: Tadic, Mane, Pelle, Long, Jay Rod, Isgrove, Sam vs Rickie, Adam, Guly, Sharp, Sam, Gaston and Jay Rod (apologies if I've missed anyone - left out Barnard on purpose in fairness to the old squad). Again, difficult to make a lasting judgement as it's such early days, but my overall impression is that our new attack (in theory) has no weak links or dead wood (unlike the old) and all the players are likely to improve. In the old squad we had Rickie one year older, Guly and Sharp, plus an inconsistent Gaston. Of course we'll have to wait and see on their replacements, but I'd be very surprised if the current group is anything but a step forward. Tadic looks a worthy replacement for Adam and Pelle is more of a conventional target man than Rickie, who because more of a Rooney style link up player as the seasons went on. Long is clearly a far better option than Guly, Isgrove, Jay Rod and Mane add raw pace and energy. MANAGER: As for Ron, again too early to judge and he had perhaps the biggest boots to fill following last season (despite the treason), but every sign I've seen so far is massively positive. OVERALL: So, overall, I think that even with some players yet to be judged, we are unquestionably better squad wise overall. Lovren, as I think we all knew, is probably the hardest player to replace, but we may well have done it. Obviously I've mentioned the odd player (JWP, Targett, Isgrove) we already would have had coming through, but I think their integration has been stepped up big time and they are more fully fledged squad members. So Ralph and Les - congratulations, you turned it around. Remarkable work and a great foundation to build on. SaintJD
  • Score: 7

11:18am Tue 2 Sep 14

jls217 says...

Somebody mentioned in a post this morning they felt Lovren was the worst betrayal.
The game is about nothing if opinions are withdrawn and on the above topic my gripe is not so much Lovren (though he fits the unspeakable wretch level in my hierarchy of turds) but Liarllana, hero beloved by all and captain of our club. Ask yourselves if you can ever imagine Fonte abrogating his personally clearly defined responsibilities, his make up would not allow him to, I reckon he would resign the captaincy as a precursor because he has respect for something other than his own wellbeing and that is the pursuance of duty. Liarlanna put himself before his duties - absolutely unforgivable. Why any club would want to purchase that sort of highly flawed personality with the inherent character flaws is beyond me - we can only thank Brenda's Bin Rogered for having such low standards he and his club think this is acceptable (sorry maybe even desirable)
JWP - an extremely young and precocious talent had the same opportunity to be tapped up/roped in as OUR CAPTAIN, JWP did the right thing and went to his coaches to complain, OUR CAPTAIN merely put his hand out and wanted some more. I think there are three villains to the plot;
NC for allowing the power to corrupt his judgement thus allowing all the near miracles he had performed for us to come to nothing but an end of season squabble.
Poxytino - For not using his influence and position of trust to halt the rot and instead decided to play a personal chess game with the board.
Liarllana - the one closest to us as fans and the man who represents us on the pitch and off it - and walked away without a second glance once fame and fortune had been waved in front of him. Worse, he covered it up. Maybe not to those inside the club who saw signs (and in Poxytino's case seems to have even fed the doubt) but to us blind fools who pay the money in - probably because we didn't want to believe OUR CAPTAIN could stoop to that. Therefore in my code of conduct his is the worst betrayal of all because it was closest and dearest to us - our captain could do this to us? The man we cheered on everytime we heard his name? Just how f------ dumb are we? This is a despicable example of a man and fully deserving of my (if not others) contempt. The other two merely my disdain.
My opinion and I do not ask you to agree but somebody has to say this about this miserable specimen.
Somebody mentioned in a post this morning they felt Lovren was the worst betrayal. The game is about nothing if opinions are withdrawn and on the above topic my gripe is not so much Lovren (though he fits the unspeakable wretch level in my hierarchy of turds) but Liarllana, hero beloved by all and captain of our club. Ask yourselves if you can ever imagine Fonte abrogating his personally clearly defined responsibilities, his make up would not allow him to, I reckon he would resign the captaincy as a precursor because he has respect for something other than his own wellbeing and that is the pursuance of duty. Liarlanna put himself before his duties - absolutely unforgivable. Why any club would want to purchase that sort of highly flawed personality with the inherent character flaws is beyond me - we can only thank Brenda's Bin Rogered for having such low standards he and his club think this is acceptable (sorry maybe even desirable) JWP - an extremely young and precocious talent had the same opportunity to be tapped up/roped in as OUR CAPTAIN, JWP did the right thing and went to his coaches to complain, OUR CAPTAIN merely put his hand out and wanted some more. I think there are three villains to the plot; NC for allowing the power to corrupt his judgement thus allowing all the near miracles he had performed for us to come to nothing but an end of season squabble. Poxytino - For not using his influence and position of trust to halt the rot and instead decided to play a personal chess game with the board. Liarllana - the one closest to us as fans and the man who represents us on the pitch and off it - and walked away without a second glance once fame and fortune had been waved in front of him. Worse, he covered it up. Maybe not to those inside the club who saw signs (and in Poxytino's case seems to have even fed the doubt) but to us blind fools who pay the money in - probably because we didn't want to believe OUR CAPTAIN could stoop to that. Therefore in my code of conduct his is the worst betrayal of all because it was closest and dearest to us - our captain could do this to us? The man we cheered on everytime we heard his name? Just how f------ dumb are we? This is a despicable example of a man and fully deserving of my (if not others) contempt. The other two merely my disdain. My opinion and I do not ask you to agree but somebody has to say this about this miserable specimen. jls217
  • Score: 6

11:29am Tue 2 Sep 14

fascia123 says...

SaintJD wrote:
Les and Ralph asked us to judge them after the window closed based on the strength of the squad verses last season.

I'm going to try to be fair, based on the fact that several of the newer signings are unknown quantities and the others have only played a few games compared to those they replaced.

KEEPERS: Forster and Boruc vs Boruc and Davis/Gazza
A clear improvement, can't be questioned, quality signing who has hit the ground running and is a collossus, excellent cover.

DEFENCE: Bertrand, Clyne, Florin, Toby, Fonte, Mayuka, Targett vs Clyne, Hoover, Fonte, Maya, Lovren, Shaw and Fox.

This is the only real unknown quantity I can't judge on due to Toby and Florin having yet to play. Based on the other signings we've made this summer and on Bertrand I have to be optimistic.

Bertrand isn't as dymamic or eye catching as Shaw, but he catches the eye in a different way because he is impressive and solid both going forward and in defence, much more of a finished product and, on the basis of price, I'd take Bertrand every time and invest in a good keeper, as we undoubtably have. Hoover and Fox are positive departures.

MIDFIELD: Won't go through the full list as we are so well stocked and I'm tiring :) but we're at least as strong in this area, if not better.

Spider seems to have stepped up his game, Cork seems to be motivated to earn a starting place, Victor will benefit from an extra season in the Prem, JWP is going to be class and get assists and goals, Davis is underated. Our strongest part of the squad (although arguably the keeping department is very strong too and I can't believe I'm saying that).

ATTACK: Tadic, Mane, Pelle, Long, Jay Rod, Isgrove, Sam vs Rickie, Adam, Guly, Sharp, Sam, Gaston and Jay Rod (apologies if I've missed anyone - left out Barnard on purpose in fairness to the old squad).

Again, difficult to make a lasting judgement as it's such early days, but my overall impression is that our new attack (in theory) has no weak links or dead wood (unlike the old) and all the players are likely to improve.

In the old squad we had Rickie one year older, Guly and Sharp, plus an inconsistent Gaston. Of course we'll have to wait and see on their replacements, but I'd be very surprised if the current group is anything but a step forward.

Tadic looks a worthy replacement for Adam and Pelle is more of a conventional target man than Rickie, who because more of a Rooney style link up player as the seasons went on. Long is clearly a far better option than Guly, Isgrove, Jay Rod and Mane add raw pace and energy.

MANAGER: As for Ron, again too early to judge and he had perhaps the biggest boots to fill following last season (despite the treason), but every sign I've seen so far is massively positive.

OVERALL:
So, overall, I think that even with some players yet to be judged, we are unquestionably better squad wise overall. Lovren, as I think we all knew, is probably the hardest player to replace, but we may well have done it.

Obviously I've mentioned the odd player (JWP, Targett, Isgrove) we already would have had coming through, but I think their integration has been stepped up big time and they are more fully fledged squad members.

So Ralph and Les - congratulations, you turned it around. Remarkable work and a great foundation to build on.
I would buy you a pint for that appraisal.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: Les and Ralph asked us to judge them after the window closed based on the strength of the squad verses last season. I'm going to try to be fair, based on the fact that several of the newer signings are unknown quantities and the others have only played a few games compared to those they replaced. KEEPERS: Forster and Boruc vs Boruc and Davis/Gazza A clear improvement, can't be questioned, quality signing who has hit the ground running and is a collossus, excellent cover. DEFENCE: Bertrand, Clyne, Florin, Toby, Fonte, Mayuka, Targett vs Clyne, Hoover, Fonte, Maya, Lovren, Shaw and Fox. This is the only real unknown quantity I can't judge on due to Toby and Florin having yet to play. Based on the other signings we've made this summer and on Bertrand I have to be optimistic. Bertrand isn't as dymamic or eye catching as Shaw, but he catches the eye in a different way because he is impressive and solid both going forward and in defence, much more of a finished product and, on the basis of price, I'd take Bertrand every time and invest in a good keeper, as we undoubtably have. Hoover and Fox are positive departures. MIDFIELD: Won't go through the full list as we are so well stocked and I'm tiring :) but we're at least as strong in this area, if not better. Spider seems to have stepped up his game, Cork seems to be motivated to earn a starting place, Victor will benefit from an extra season in the Prem, JWP is going to be class and get assists and goals, Davis is underated. Our strongest part of the squad (although arguably the keeping department is very strong too and I can't believe I'm saying that). ATTACK: Tadic, Mane, Pelle, Long, Jay Rod, Isgrove, Sam vs Rickie, Adam, Guly, Sharp, Sam, Gaston and Jay Rod (apologies if I've missed anyone - left out Barnard on purpose in fairness to the old squad). Again, difficult to make a lasting judgement as it's such early days, but my overall impression is that our new attack (in theory) has no weak links or dead wood (unlike the old) and all the players are likely to improve. In the old squad we had Rickie one year older, Guly and Sharp, plus an inconsistent Gaston. Of course we'll have to wait and see on their replacements, but I'd be very surprised if the current group is anything but a step forward. Tadic looks a worthy replacement for Adam and Pelle is more of a conventional target man than Rickie, who because more of a Rooney style link up player as the seasons went on. Long is clearly a far better option than Guly, Isgrove, Jay Rod and Mane add raw pace and energy. MANAGER: As for Ron, again too early to judge and he had perhaps the biggest boots to fill following last season (despite the treason), but every sign I've seen so far is massively positive. OVERALL: So, overall, I think that even with some players yet to be judged, we are unquestionably better squad wise overall. Lovren, as I think we all knew, is probably the hardest player to replace, but we may well have done it. Obviously I've mentioned the odd player (JWP, Targett, Isgrove) we already would have had coming through, but I think their integration has been stepped up big time and they are more fully fledged squad members. So Ralph and Les - congratulations, you turned it around. Remarkable work and a great foundation to build on.[/p][/quote]I would buy you a pint for that appraisal. fascia123
  • Score: 2

11:39am Tue 2 Sep 14

fascia123 says...

jls217 wrote:
Somebody mentioned in a post this morning they felt Lovren was the worst betrayal.
The game is about nothing if opinions are withdrawn and on the above topic my gripe is not so much Lovren (though he fits the unspeakable wretch level in my hierarchy of turds) but Liarllana, hero beloved by all and captain of our club. Ask yourselves if you can ever imagine Fonte abrogating his personally clearly defined responsibilities, his make up would not allow him to, I reckon he would resign the captaincy as a precursor because he has respect for something other than his own wellbeing and that is the pursuance of duty. Liarlanna put himself before his duties - absolutely unforgivable. Why any club would want to purchase that sort of highly flawed personality with the inherent character flaws is beyond me - we can only thank Brenda's Bin Rogered for having such low standards he and his club think this is acceptable (sorry maybe even desirable)
JWP - an extremely young and precocious talent had the same opportunity to be tapped up/roped in as OUR CAPTAIN, JWP did the right thing and went to his coaches to complain, OUR CAPTAIN merely put his hand out and wanted some more. I think there are three villains to the plot;
NC for allowing the power to corrupt his judgement thus allowing all the near miracles he had performed for us to come to nothing but an end of season squabble.
Poxytino - For not using his influence and position of trust to halt the rot and instead decided to play a personal chess game with the board.
Liarllana - the one closest to us as fans and the man who represents us on the pitch and off it - and walked away without a second glance once fame and fortune had been waved in front of him. Worse, he covered it up. Maybe not to those inside the club who saw signs (and in Poxytino's case seems to have even fed the doubt) but to us blind fools who pay the money in - probably because we didn't want to believe OUR CAPTAIN could stoop to that. Therefore in my code of conduct his is the worst betrayal of all because it was closest and dearest to us - our captain could do this to us? The man we cheered on everytime we heard his name? Just how f------ dumb are we? This is a despicable example of a man and fully deserving of my (if not others) contempt. The other two merely my disdain.
My opinion and I do not ask you to agree but somebody has to say this about this miserable specimen.
I would shoot the pair of them personally, Jls, but then I take breath not often done I know, think, we have equal to or better replacements, Lovren looks shaky the games I have watched and may not handle the pressure, and as for the other tur@ I ain't sure he will play that often.

Up the saints
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Somebody mentioned in a post this morning they felt Lovren was the worst betrayal. The game is about nothing if opinions are withdrawn and on the above topic my gripe is not so much Lovren (though he fits the unspeakable wretch level in my hierarchy of turds) but Liarllana, hero beloved by all and captain of our club. Ask yourselves if you can ever imagine Fonte abrogating his personally clearly defined responsibilities, his make up would not allow him to, I reckon he would resign the captaincy as a precursor because he has respect for something other than his own wellbeing and that is the pursuance of duty. Liarlanna put himself before his duties - absolutely unforgivable. Why any club would want to purchase that sort of highly flawed personality with the inherent character flaws is beyond me - we can only thank Brenda's Bin Rogered for having such low standards he and his club think this is acceptable (sorry maybe even desirable) JWP - an extremely young and precocious talent had the same opportunity to be tapped up/roped in as OUR CAPTAIN, JWP did the right thing and went to his coaches to complain, OUR CAPTAIN merely put his hand out and wanted some more. I think there are three villains to the plot; NC for allowing the power to corrupt his judgement thus allowing all the near miracles he had performed for us to come to nothing but an end of season squabble. Poxytino - For not using his influence and position of trust to halt the rot and instead decided to play a personal chess game with the board. Liarllana - the one closest to us as fans and the man who represents us on the pitch and off it - and walked away without a second glance once fame and fortune had been waved in front of him. Worse, he covered it up. Maybe not to those inside the club who saw signs (and in Poxytino's case seems to have even fed the doubt) but to us blind fools who pay the money in - probably because we didn't want to believe OUR CAPTAIN could stoop to that. Therefore in my code of conduct his is the worst betrayal of all because it was closest and dearest to us - our captain could do this to us? The man we cheered on everytime we heard his name? Just how f------ dumb are we? This is a despicable example of a man and fully deserving of my (if not others) contempt. The other two merely my disdain. My opinion and I do not ask you to agree but somebody has to say this about this miserable specimen.[/p][/quote]I would shoot the pair of them personally, Jls, but then I take breath not often done I know, think, we have equal to or better replacements, Lovren looks shaky the games I have watched and may not handle the pressure, and as for the other tur@ I ain't sure he will play that often. Up the saints fascia123
  • Score: -1

11:40am Tue 2 Sep 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

jls217 wrote:
Somebody mentioned in a post this morning they felt Lovren was the worst betrayal.
The game is about nothing if opinions are withdrawn and on the above topic my gripe is not so much Lovren (though he fits the unspeakable wretch level in my hierarchy of turds) but Liarllana, hero beloved by all and captain of our club. Ask yourselves if you can ever imagine Fonte abrogating his personally clearly defined responsibilities, his make up would not allow him to, I reckon he would resign the captaincy as a precursor because he has respect for something other than his own wellbeing and that is the pursuance of duty. Liarlanna put himself before his duties - absolutely unforgivable. Why any club would want to purchase that sort of highly flawed personality with the inherent character flaws is beyond me - we can only thank Brenda's Bin Rogered for having such low standards he and his club think this is acceptable (sorry maybe even desirable)
JWP - an extremely young and precocious talent had the same opportunity to be tapped up/roped in as OUR CAPTAIN, JWP did the right thing and went to his coaches to complain, OUR CAPTAIN merely put his hand out and wanted some more. I think there are three villains to the plot;
NC for allowing the power to corrupt his judgement thus allowing all the near miracles he had performed for us to come to nothing but an end of season squabble.
Poxytino - For not using his influence and position of trust to halt the rot and instead decided to play a personal chess game with the board.
Liarllana - the one closest to us as fans and the man who represents us on the pitch and off it - and walked away without a second glance once fame and fortune had been waved in front of him. Worse, he covered it up. Maybe not to those inside the club who saw signs (and in Poxytino's case seems to have even fed the doubt) but to us blind fools who pay the money in - probably because we didn't want to believe OUR CAPTAIN could stoop to that. Therefore in my code of conduct his is the worst betrayal of all because it was closest and dearest to us - our captain could do this to us? The man we cheered on everytime we heard his name? Just how f------ dumb are we? This is a despicable example of a man and fully deserving of my (if not others) contempt. The other two merely my disdain.
My opinion and I do not ask you to agree but somebody has to say this about this miserable specimen.
Fans were sold on the image of Lallana, and why not, he had been with the club for 14 years, been through the rise to the premier league etc. I was proud to have him in the team. Who is worse, the fool, or the fool that follows him? There is a slight feeling of embarrassment for me because I naively believed he put the interests of the team and club before himself. I will forever be skeptical of badge kissing players who cloak themselves in a shroud of integrity in aid of boosting their profile and monetary value.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Somebody mentioned in a post this morning they felt Lovren was the worst betrayal. The game is about nothing if opinions are withdrawn and on the above topic my gripe is not so much Lovren (though he fits the unspeakable wretch level in my hierarchy of turds) but Liarllana, hero beloved by all and captain of our club. Ask yourselves if you can ever imagine Fonte abrogating his personally clearly defined responsibilities, his make up would not allow him to, I reckon he would resign the captaincy as a precursor because he has respect for something other than his own wellbeing and that is the pursuance of duty. Liarlanna put himself before his duties - absolutely unforgivable. Why any club would want to purchase that sort of highly flawed personality with the inherent character flaws is beyond me - we can only thank Brenda's Bin Rogered for having such low standards he and his club think this is acceptable (sorry maybe even desirable) JWP - an extremely young and precocious talent had the same opportunity to be tapped up/roped in as OUR CAPTAIN, JWP did the right thing and went to his coaches to complain, OUR CAPTAIN merely put his hand out and wanted some more. I think there are three villains to the plot; NC for allowing the power to corrupt his judgement thus allowing all the near miracles he had performed for us to come to nothing but an end of season squabble. Poxytino - For not using his influence and position of trust to halt the rot and instead decided to play a personal chess game with the board. Liarllana - the one closest to us as fans and the man who represents us on the pitch and off it - and walked away without a second glance once fame and fortune had been waved in front of him. Worse, he covered it up. Maybe not to those inside the club who saw signs (and in Poxytino's case seems to have even fed the doubt) but to us blind fools who pay the money in - probably because we didn't want to believe OUR CAPTAIN could stoop to that. Therefore in my code of conduct his is the worst betrayal of all because it was closest and dearest to us - our captain could do this to us? The man we cheered on everytime we heard his name? Just how f------ dumb are we? This is a despicable example of a man and fully deserving of my (if not others) contempt. The other two merely my disdain. My opinion and I do not ask you to agree but somebody has to say this about this miserable specimen.[/p][/quote]Fans were sold on the image of Lallana, and why not, he had been with the club for 14 years, been through the rise to the premier league etc. I was proud to have him in the team. Who is worse, the fool, or the fool that follows him? There is a slight feeling of embarrassment for me because I naively believed he put the interests of the team and club before himself. I will forever be skeptical of badge kissing players who cloak themselves in a shroud of integrity in aid of boosting their profile and monetary value. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 3

11:45am Tue 2 Sep 14

lowe esteem says...

EricMartin'sHat wrote:
garyom71 wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
If Carling made transfer days ........... 2 quality new additions and JRod, Corkie and Morgan stay put !!!

Well done RonKon and Les ................ As I said 2 months ago, lets see what the papers are saying about SFC and their sensible business and the ex England players all sat on the bench.

A great window for Saints , a crap one for England ....................
Would be even better if Carlsberg made it then....
hahahahhahhahaaha - brill
mass produced dish water you mean?
[quote][p][bold]EricMartin'sHat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]garyom71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: If Carling made transfer days ........... 2 quality new additions and JRod, Corkie and Morgan stay put !!! Well done RonKon and Les ................ As I said 2 months ago, lets see what the papers are saying about SFC and their sensible business and the ex England players all sat on the bench. A great window for Saints , a crap one for England ....................[/p][/quote]Would be even better if Carlsberg made it then....[/p][/quote]hahahahhahhahaaha - brill[/p][/quote]mass produced dish water you mean? lowe esteem
  • Score: 0

11:54am Tue 2 Sep 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Somebody mentioned in a post this morning they felt Lovren was the worst betrayal.
The game is about nothing if opinions are withdrawn and on the above topic my gripe is not so much Lovren (though he fits the unspeakable wretch level in my hierarchy of turds) but Liarllana, hero beloved by all and captain of our club. Ask yourselves if you can ever imagine Fonte abrogating his personally clearly defined responsibilities, his make up would not allow him to, I reckon he would resign the captaincy as a precursor because he has respect for something other than his own wellbeing and that is the pursuance of duty. Liarlanna put himself before his duties - absolutely unforgivable. Why any club would want to purchase that sort of highly flawed personality with the inherent character flaws is beyond me - we can only thank Brenda's Bin Rogered for having such low standards he and his club think this is acceptable (sorry maybe even desirable)
JWP - an extremely young and precocious talent had the same opportunity to be tapped up/roped in as OUR CAPTAIN, JWP did the right thing and went to his coaches to complain, OUR CAPTAIN merely put his hand out and wanted some more. I think there are three villains to the plot;
NC for allowing the power to corrupt his judgement thus allowing all the near miracles he had performed for us to come to nothing but an end of season squabble.
Poxytino - For not using his influence and position of trust to halt the rot and instead decided to play a personal chess game with the board.
Liarllana - the one closest to us as fans and the man who represents us on the pitch and off it - and walked away without a second glance once fame and fortune had been waved in front of him. Worse, he covered it up. Maybe not to those inside the club who saw signs (and in Poxytino's case seems to have even fed the doubt) but to us blind fools who pay the money in - probably because we didn't want to believe OUR CAPTAIN could stoop to that. Therefore in my code of conduct his is the worst betrayal of all because it was closest and dearest to us - our captain could do this to us? The man we cheered on everytime we heard his name? Just how f------ dumb are we? This is a despicable example of a man and fully deserving of my (if not others) contempt. The other two merely my disdain.
My opinion and I do not ask you to agree but somebody has to say this about this miserable specimen.
Fans were sold on the image of Lallana, and why not, he had been with the club for 14 years, been through the rise to the premier league etc. I was proud to have him in the team. Who is worse, the fool, or the fool that follows him? There is a slight feeling of embarrassment for me because I naively believed he put the interests of the team and club before himself. I will forever be skeptical of badge kissing players who cloak themselves in a shroud of integrity in aid of boosting their profile and monetary value.
I should have just said who's Lallana again shouldn't I. lol
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Somebody mentioned in a post this morning they felt Lovren was the worst betrayal. The game is about nothing if opinions are withdrawn and on the above topic my gripe is not so much Lovren (though he fits the unspeakable wretch level in my hierarchy of turds) but Liarllana, hero beloved by all and captain of our club. Ask yourselves if you can ever imagine Fonte abrogating his personally clearly defined responsibilities, his make up would not allow him to, I reckon he would resign the captaincy as a precursor because he has respect for something other than his own wellbeing and that is the pursuance of duty. Liarlanna put himself before his duties - absolutely unforgivable. Why any club would want to purchase that sort of highly flawed personality with the inherent character flaws is beyond me - we can only thank Brenda's Bin Rogered for having such low standards he and his club think this is acceptable (sorry maybe even desirable) JWP - an extremely young and precocious talent had the same opportunity to be tapped up/roped in as OUR CAPTAIN, JWP did the right thing and went to his coaches to complain, OUR CAPTAIN merely put his hand out and wanted some more. I think there are three villains to the plot; NC for allowing the power to corrupt his judgement thus allowing all the near miracles he had performed for us to come to nothing but an end of season squabble. Poxytino - For not using his influence and position of trust to halt the rot and instead decided to play a personal chess game with the board. Liarllana - the one closest to us as fans and the man who represents us on the pitch and off it - and walked away without a second glance once fame and fortune had been waved in front of him. Worse, he covered it up. Maybe not to those inside the club who saw signs (and in Poxytino's case seems to have even fed the doubt) but to us blind fools who pay the money in - probably because we didn't want to believe OUR CAPTAIN could stoop to that. Therefore in my code of conduct his is the worst betrayal of all because it was closest and dearest to us - our captain could do this to us? The man we cheered on everytime we heard his name? Just how f------ dumb are we? This is a despicable example of a man and fully deserving of my (if not others) contempt. The other two merely my disdain. My opinion and I do not ask you to agree but somebody has to say this about this miserable specimen.[/p][/quote]Fans were sold on the image of Lallana, and why not, he had been with the club for 14 years, been through the rise to the premier league etc. I was proud to have him in the team. Who is worse, the fool, or the fool that follows him? There is a slight feeling of embarrassment for me because I naively believed he put the interests of the team and club before himself. I will forever be skeptical of badge kissing players who cloak themselves in a shroud of integrity in aid of boosting their profile and monetary value.[/p][/quote]I should have just said who's Lallana again shouldn't I. lol KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 0

11:56am Tue 2 Sep 14

lowe esteem says...

Many a Saints fan of certain age that were lured into following that 'national' Soccer side last year will be pleased to return to fully focussing on OUR team, after all that treachery and skull doggery in the close season/ World Cup hyperbole.
Whilst I will still cheer 'our' various promotions to the national side(s) my patriotic fervour will be mostly confined elsewhere, that is, most other sports that England /Great Britain take part in, where the participants seem to rise to the badge or flag rather than the Queens head on the bank notes.
They don't give a krap, I don't give a krap -nottarf!
SAINTS FOREVER.
Move on.
Many a Saints fan of certain age that were lured into following that 'national' Soccer side last year will be pleased to return to fully focussing on OUR team, after all that treachery and skull doggery in the close season/ World Cup hyperbole. Whilst I will still cheer 'our' various promotions to the national side(s) my patriotic fervour will be mostly confined elsewhere, that is, most other sports that England /Great Britain take part in, where the participants seem to rise to the badge or flag rather than the Queens head on the bank notes. They don't give a krap, I don't give a krap -nottarf! SAINTS FOREVER. Move on. lowe esteem
  • Score: 2

12:04pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
warrens 76 wrote: Roger me sideways and call me a badger, Tadic and Forster are nailed on success's…Pelle probably, Gardos we have not seen yet, I have seen Mane and what a handful…the defence is absolutely stronger than last two years now…never thought I would say that.. I have been sick as a parrot over the summer becuase of what at the time 'was' the wholesale and unprecedented destruction of much of our team with no obvious plan… ..for those who had in hindsight 'justifiable' blind faith well done but seriously if your missus went out every night and came in the early hours, told you several things that at the time clearly did not add up then tell me you would not be very concerned, the fact she has taken a secret part time job and working for your interest would not stop the doubt at the time.. I digress, last year our possession was a joy to behold but it would be naive to ignore the lack of cutting edge and the nervouseness when we had to play Hooiveld …Boruc out and we lost almost every time so as he stays as well happy days. Long was identified long ago as fitted to our style so who can tell if this is wrong or right yet. Ramirez and Osvaldo never delivered Pelle already has..so even this Saints fan can see that the complaints of last year have been seriously addressed. One thing I do like is that when we play our style has not changed meaning to the team ethic and style remains, perhaps therefore some of the the players who left 'where' made to look good by the collective… All in all if this works it will work big I see no middle ground we will either flatter to deceive because of the Spam result or the peices will all fit (looks likely) and we wil keep the best of last year and dispose of the worst and that could be (referee's aside as we are not favored ilk e the brand clubs) +16 points on last year.
Would be great to meet for another beer, Warrens, and I don't mind calling you a badger but the other bit in your first line would, for me at least, be a 'cunning plan' too far! That +16 points on last year sounds mighty fine, though.
Wilko, Jules and i are doing Arsenal in december but i know you cannot make that one…
Alas, no. QPR this month, then Hull but let me know if/when you're going to be in Stras with Nigel F.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Roger me sideways and call me a badger, Tadic and Forster are nailed on success's…Pelle probably, Gardos we have not seen yet, I have seen Mane and what a handful…the defence is absolutely stronger than last two years now…never thought I would say that.. I have been sick as a parrot over the summer becuase of what at the time 'was' the wholesale and unprecedented destruction of much of our team with no obvious plan… ..for those who had in hindsight 'justifiable' blind faith well done but seriously if your missus went out every night and came in the early hours, told you several things that at the time clearly did not add up then tell me you would not be very concerned, the fact she has taken a secret part time job and working for your interest would not stop the doubt at the time.. I digress, last year our possession was a joy to behold but it would be naive to ignore the lack of cutting edge and the nervouseness when we had to play Hooiveld …Boruc out and we lost almost every time so as he stays as well happy days. Long was identified long ago as fitted to our style so who can tell if this is wrong or right yet. Ramirez and Osvaldo never delivered Pelle already has..so even this Saints fan can see that the complaints of last year have been seriously addressed. One thing I do like is that when we play our style has not changed meaning to the team ethic and style remains, perhaps therefore some of the the players who left 'where' made to look good by the collective… All in all if this works it will work big I see no middle ground we will either flatter to deceive because of the Spam result or the peices will all fit (looks likely) and we wil keep the best of last year and dispose of the worst and that could be (referee's aside as we are not favored ilk e the brand clubs) +16 points on last year.[/p][/quote]Would be great to meet for another beer, Warrens, and I don't mind calling you a badger but the other bit in your first line would, for me at least, be a 'cunning plan' too far! That +16 points on last year sounds mighty fine, though.[/p][/quote]Wilko, Jules and i are doing Arsenal in december but i know you cannot make that one…[/p][/quote]Alas, no. QPR this month, then Hull but let me know if/when you're going to be in Stras with Nigel F. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 1

12:36pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Saint Clements says...

milton road wrote:
I think with the dust of the transfer window settling and the emotion both negative and positive beginning to settle its time to be reflective.

RL deserved his move to Liverpool even if he does finish his career for the most part on the bench. Really hope he gts to take part in acouple of CL matches to cap an astonishing last five years or so.

Adam will struggle to get in the first team at Liverpool, if Courtinho cannot get in what chance does Adam have? Yet for all the upset of his going he did give us a decade of loyalty, when he could of moved on several times.

Shaw was always going to go and its to his credit that he signed prro forms for us when the top four all wanted to seal him and we would of got a pittance

Lovren is the one that really grates, I am happy at Saints was replaced three weeks later by I will not play for the club again attitude..

Chambers leaving is still a bit of a mystery but the lad was not going to get much chance of first team football here. If we had made Europe Cup then maybe.

Poch did a good job whilst he was here but question his ambition with us, if you want to progress a club you do not send a reserve team out for a quarter final in the F.A. Cup when you have nothing else to play for.

Cortese should never be belittled he worked wonders for this club. It was he who identified it and persuaded Markus to buy into it. Cortese's drive and determination got us to the Premier and those with short memories should not forget that. He had a vision which he stuck doggedly to. Not everyone's favourite man but he gave this club a lot.

Nigel Adkins will always stand out to me as a warm and passionate manager who would of stayed at Saints forever. His beleif of club and fans as one family, His praise for the fans always making them feel a crucial part of the club and his success on the field will never be forgotten.

Alan Pardew came to this club when we couldn't even put out a first team, had a 10 point deficit were in div one and we were struggling the first few games as he searched for players to build a side. Almost got us to the play offs. Won us the JPT and should be remembered with respect, because he helped build the foundations of what was to come.

Markus what more can you say than THANK YOU and you will always be remembered as the man who not only saved this club but got us back to where we belonged when all hope of even being in existence was fading like a spluttering candle.

Five years ago this club nearly died in the depths of div 1, last season we finished 8th in the premier.

The likes of Hammond and Chaplow, Hoov's immense performances in the championship, Guly's golden run of 10 goals in our early championship days, both he and Hoov much maligned by Saints fans in recent times. Yet both were so instrumental in our promotion to the Premier. Then finally another word about RL . Rickie Lambert will always be remembered by us as Southampton's Goal Machine.

The five year plan is over and its now time to just say thank you even to those we see as villians and betrayers for they all and many more unmentioned played a part in getting us to where we are today.

We move on
COYR
Nice post.
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: I think with the dust of the transfer window settling and the emotion both negative and positive beginning to settle its time to be reflective. RL deserved his move to Liverpool even if he does finish his career for the most part on the bench. Really hope he gts to take part in acouple of CL matches to cap an astonishing last five years or so. Adam will struggle to get in the first team at Liverpool, if Courtinho cannot get in what chance does Adam have? Yet for all the upset of his going he did give us a decade of loyalty, when he could of moved on several times. Shaw was always going to go and its to his credit that he signed prro forms for us when the top four all wanted to seal him and we would of got a pittance Lovren is the one that really grates, I am happy at Saints was replaced three weeks later by I will not play for the club again attitude.. Chambers leaving is still a bit of a mystery but the lad was not going to get much chance of first team football here. If we had made Europe Cup then maybe. Poch did a good job whilst he was here but question his ambition with us, if you want to progress a club you do not send a reserve team out for a quarter final in the F.A. Cup when you have nothing else to play for. Cortese should never be belittled he worked wonders for this club. It was he who identified it and persuaded Markus to buy into it. Cortese's drive and determination got us to the Premier and those with short memories should not forget that. He had a vision which he stuck doggedly to. Not everyone's favourite man but he gave this club a lot. Nigel Adkins will always stand out to me as a warm and passionate manager who would of stayed at Saints forever. His beleif of club and fans as one family, His praise for the fans always making them feel a crucial part of the club and his success on the field will never be forgotten. Alan Pardew came to this club when we couldn't even put out a first team, had a 10 point deficit were in div one and we were struggling the first few games as he searched for players to build a side. Almost got us to the play offs. Won us the JPT and should be remembered with respect, because he helped build the foundations of what was to come. Markus what more can you say than THANK YOU and you will always be remembered as the man who not only saved this club but got us back to where we belonged when all hope of even being in existence was fading like a spluttering candle. Five years ago this club nearly died in the depths of div 1, last season we finished 8th in the premier. The likes of Hammond and Chaplow, Hoov's immense performances in the championship, Guly's golden run of 10 goals in our early championship days, both he and Hoov much maligned by Saints fans in recent times. Yet both were so instrumental in our promotion to the Premier. Then finally another word about RL . Rickie Lambert will always be remembered by us as Southampton's Goal Machine. The five year plan is over and its now time to just say thank you even to those we see as villians and betrayers for they all and many more unmentioned played a part in getting us to where we are today. We move on COYR[/p][/quote]Nice post. Saint Clements
  • Score: 1

12:41pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Benali76 says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Roger me sideways and call me a badger, Tadic and Forster are nailed on success's…Pelle probably, Gardos we have not seen yet, I have seen Mane and what a handful…the defence is absolutely stronger than last two years now…never thought I would say that..

I have been sick as a parrot over the summer becuase of what at the time 'was' the wholesale and unprecedented destruction of much of our team with no obvious plan…

..for those who had in hindsight 'justifiable' blind faith well done but seriously if your missus went out every night and came in the early hours, told you several things that at the time clearly did not add up then tell me you would not be very concerned, the fact she has taken a secret part time job and working for your interest would not stop the doubt at the time..

I digress, last year our possession was a joy to behold but it would be naive to ignore the lack of cutting edge and the nervouseness when we had to play Hooiveld

…Boruc out and we lost almost every time so as he stays as well happy days.

Long was identified long ago as fitted to our style so who can tell if this is wrong or right yet.

Ramirez and Osvaldo never delivered Pelle already has..so even this Saints fan can see that the complaints of last year have been seriously addressed.

One thing I do like is that when we play our style has not changed meaning to the team ethic and style remains, perhaps therefore some of the the players who left 'where' made to look good by the collective…

All in all if this works it will work big I see no middle ground we will either flatter to deceive because of the Spam result or the peices will all fit (looks likely) and we wil keep the best of last year and dispose of the worst and that could be (referee's aside as we are not favored ilk e the brand clubs) +16 points on last year.
Being concerned is fine, it was the leaping to conclusions and condemning people without waiting for the full picture that was wrong. Waiting to see does not equate to having no concern or "blind faith". Hopefully people learn to have a little more patience, and that goes from giving the board the benefit of the doubt till the end of a window to not writing off a player after one game.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Roger me sideways and call me a badger, Tadic and Forster are nailed on success's…Pelle probably, Gardos we have not seen yet, I have seen Mane and what a handful…the defence is absolutely stronger than last two years now…never thought I would say that.. I have been sick as a parrot over the summer becuase of what at the time 'was' the wholesale and unprecedented destruction of much of our team with no obvious plan… ..for those who had in hindsight 'justifiable' blind faith well done but seriously if your missus went out every night and came in the early hours, told you several things that at the time clearly did not add up then tell me you would not be very concerned, the fact she has taken a secret part time job and working for your interest would not stop the doubt at the time.. I digress, last year our possession was a joy to behold but it would be naive to ignore the lack of cutting edge and the nervouseness when we had to play Hooiveld …Boruc out and we lost almost every time so as he stays as well happy days. Long was identified long ago as fitted to our style so who can tell if this is wrong or right yet. Ramirez and Osvaldo never delivered Pelle already has..so even this Saints fan can see that the complaints of last year have been seriously addressed. One thing I do like is that when we play our style has not changed meaning to the team ethic and style remains, perhaps therefore some of the the players who left 'where' made to look good by the collective… All in all if this works it will work big I see no middle ground we will either flatter to deceive because of the Spam result or the peices will all fit (looks likely) and we wil keep the best of last year and dispose of the worst and that could be (referee's aside as we are not favored ilk e the brand clubs) +16 points on last year.[/p][/quote]Being concerned is fine, it was the leaping to conclusions and condemning people without waiting for the full picture that was wrong. Waiting to see does not equate to having no concern or "blind faith". Hopefully people learn to have a little more patience, and that goes from giving the board the benefit of the doubt till the end of a window to not writing off a player after one game. Benali76
  • Score: 2

1:02pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Beer Monster says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Roger me sideways and call me a badger, Tadic and Forster are nailed on success's…Pelle probably, Gardos we have not seen yet, I have seen Mane and what a handful…the defence is absolutely stronger than last two years now…never thought I would say that..

I have been sick as a parrot over the summer becuase of what at the time 'was' the wholesale and unprecedented destruction of much of our team with no obvious plan…

..for those who had in hindsight 'justifiable' blind faith well done but seriously if your missus went out every night and came in the early hours, told you several things that at the time clearly did not add up then tell me you would not be very concerned, the fact she has taken a secret part time job and working for your interest would not stop the doubt at the time..

I digress, last year our possession was a joy to behold but it would be naive to ignore the lack of cutting edge and the nervouseness when we had to play Hooiveld

…Boruc out and we lost almost every time so as he stays as well happy days.

Long was identified long ago as fitted to our style so who can tell if this is wrong or right yet.

Ramirez and Osvaldo never delivered Pelle already has..so even this Saints fan can see that the complaints of last year have been seriously addressed.

One thing I do like is that when we play our style has not changed meaning to the team ethic and style remains, perhaps therefore some of the the players who left 'where' made to look good by the collective…

All in all if this works it will work big I see no middle ground we will either flatter to deceive because of the Spam result or the peices will all fit (looks likely) and we wil keep the best of last year and dispose of the worst and that could be (referee's aside as we are not favored ilk e the brand clubs) +16 points on last year.
I think my missus probably feels like that given how much time I spend watching football down the pub! Last night was the same - got in at midnight after quite a few. Fell asleep while she was still nagging, good day all round :-)
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Roger me sideways and call me a badger, Tadic and Forster are nailed on success's…Pelle probably, Gardos we have not seen yet, I have seen Mane and what a handful…the defence is absolutely stronger than last two years now…never thought I would say that.. I have been sick as a parrot over the summer becuase of what at the time 'was' the wholesale and unprecedented destruction of much of our team with no obvious plan… ..for those who had in hindsight 'justifiable' blind faith well done but seriously if your missus went out every night and came in the early hours, told you several things that at the time clearly did not add up then tell me you would not be very concerned, the fact she has taken a secret part time job and working for your interest would not stop the doubt at the time.. I digress, last year our possession was a joy to behold but it would be naive to ignore the lack of cutting edge and the nervouseness when we had to play Hooiveld …Boruc out and we lost almost every time so as he stays as well happy days. Long was identified long ago as fitted to our style so who can tell if this is wrong or right yet. Ramirez and Osvaldo never delivered Pelle already has..so even this Saints fan can see that the complaints of last year have been seriously addressed. One thing I do like is that when we play our style has not changed meaning to the team ethic and style remains, perhaps therefore some of the the players who left 'where' made to look good by the collective… All in all if this works it will work big I see no middle ground we will either flatter to deceive because of the Spam result or the peices will all fit (looks likely) and we wil keep the best of last year and dispose of the worst and that could be (referee's aside as we are not favored ilk e the brand clubs) +16 points on last year.[/p][/quote]I think my missus probably feels like that given how much time I spend watching football down the pub! Last night was the same - got in at midnight after quite a few. Fell asleep while she was still nagging, good day all round :-) Beer Monster
  • Score: 0

1:31pm Tue 2 Sep 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

well I did what les and ralph asked and gave them time to prove themselves, I am pleased to say they didn't let me down.
I have been as upset as anyone over the departures but I didn't think it was the boards fault, most of the players who left openly admitted to wanting to go to `bigger` clubs and play champs league. that's their choice and if they are happy to play in the champs league on the backs of work of other players instead of earning it that's a shame for them.
I don't really care what they do now though (unless its against us) so I probably wont mention them that much anymore.
the only one I do want to fail is pochaliar. he knew he wanted out a long time ago and instead of doing the decent thing he strung the board, and us fans, along because he didn't want to pay the financial penalty in his contract so he waited for another club to come and pay it for him. I hope he fails mainly because I think that spider and maybe J-Rod would still like to follow him to spuds. if he fails then we know levy the chop will dump him quite quickly.

looking at our squad now I think its quite clear that we have a lot more depth in vital areas, more defensive strength and different attacking options. both will allow Ronnie to alter styles and formations during a game without having to make substitutions. although there is also now a stronger bench to choose from.

would like to see artur buckle down now and try to earn his place back in the team.

overall I am happy with the squad we have and think we can at least equal last seasons league position and maybe at least make a semi of either cup comp.
well I did what les and ralph asked and gave them time to prove themselves, I am pleased to say they didn't let me down. I have been as upset as anyone over the departures but I didn't think it was the boards fault, most of the players who left openly admitted to wanting to go to `bigger` clubs and play champs league. that's their choice and if they are happy to play in the champs league on the backs of work of other players instead of earning it that's a shame for them. I don't really care what they do now though (unless its against us) so I probably wont mention them that much anymore. the only one I do want to fail is pochaliar. he knew he wanted out a long time ago and instead of doing the decent thing he strung the board, and us fans, along because he didn't want to pay the financial penalty in his contract so he waited for another club to come and pay it for him. I hope he fails mainly because I think that spider and maybe J-Rod would still like to follow him to spuds. if he fails then we know levy the chop will dump him quite quickly. looking at our squad now I think its quite clear that we have a lot more depth in vital areas, more defensive strength and different attacking options. both will allow Ronnie to alter styles and formations during a game without having to make substitutions. although there is also now a stronger bench to choose from. would like to see artur buckle down now and try to earn his place back in the team. overall I am happy with the squad we have and think we can at least equal last seasons league position and maybe at least make a semi of either cup comp. de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 3

1:49pm Tue 2 Sep 14

redsnapper says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Roger me sideways and call me a badger, Tadic and Forster are nailed on success's…Pelle probably, Gardos we have not seen yet, I have seen Mane and what a handful…the defence is absolutely stronger than last two years now…never thought I would say that..

I have been sick as a parrot over the summer becuase of what at the time 'was' the wholesale and unprecedented destruction of much of our team with no obvious plan…

..for those who had in hindsight 'justifiable' blind faith well done but seriously if your missus went out every night and came in the early hours, told you several things that at the time clearly did not add up then tell me you would not be very concerned, the fact she has taken a secret part time job and working for your interest would not stop the doubt at the time..

I digress, last year our possession was a joy to behold but it would be naive to ignore the lack of cutting edge and the nervouseness when we had to play Hooiveld

…Boruc out and we lost almost every time so as he stays as well happy days.

Long was identified long ago as fitted to our style so who can tell if this is wrong or right yet.

Ramirez and Osvaldo never delivered Pelle already has..so even this Saints fan can see that the complaints of last year have been seriously addressed.

One thing I do like is that when we play our style has not changed meaning to the team ethic and style remains, perhaps therefore some of the the players who left 'where' made to look good by the collective…

All in all if this works it will work big I see no middle ground we will either flatter to deceive because of the Spam result or the peices will all fit (looks likely) and we wil keep the best of last year and dispose of the worst and that could be (referee's aside as we are not favored ilk e the brand clubs) +16 points on last year.
Well Badger I wouldn't mind betting that Luke and maybe even SRL may regret jumping so quick. The former doesn't seem to be on his managers wanted list and the latter will hardly ever play.

If anyone harbours a wish to follow the Argie, let them but I am sure his methodology will be found out and Spurs will end up below us...*****y well hopes so!!

We are now stronger for sure

COYR
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Roger me sideways and call me a badger, Tadic and Forster are nailed on success's…Pelle probably, Gardos we have not seen yet, I have seen Mane and what a handful…the defence is absolutely stronger than last two years now…never thought I would say that.. I have been sick as a parrot over the summer becuase of what at the time 'was' the wholesale and unprecedented destruction of much of our team with no obvious plan… ..for those who had in hindsight 'justifiable' blind faith well done but seriously if your missus went out every night and came in the early hours, told you several things that at the time clearly did not add up then tell me you would not be very concerned, the fact she has taken a secret part time job and working for your interest would not stop the doubt at the time.. I digress, last year our possession was a joy to behold but it would be naive to ignore the lack of cutting edge and the nervouseness when we had to play Hooiveld …Boruc out and we lost almost every time so as he stays as well happy days. Long was identified long ago as fitted to our style so who can tell if this is wrong or right yet. Ramirez and Osvaldo never delivered Pelle already has..so even this Saints fan can see that the complaints of last year have been seriously addressed. One thing I do like is that when we play our style has not changed meaning to the team ethic and style remains, perhaps therefore some of the the players who left 'where' made to look good by the collective… All in all if this works it will work big I see no middle ground we will either flatter to deceive because of the Spam result or the peices will all fit (looks likely) and we wil keep the best of last year and dispose of the worst and that could be (referee's aside as we are not favored ilk e the brand clubs) +16 points on last year.[/p][/quote]Well Badger I wouldn't mind betting that Luke and maybe even SRL may regret jumping so quick. The former doesn't seem to be on his managers wanted list and the latter will hardly ever play. If anyone harbours a wish to follow the Argie, let them but I am sure his methodology will be found out and Spurs will end up below us...*****y well hopes so!! We are now stronger for sure COYR redsnapper
  • Score: 2

1:50pm Tue 2 Sep 14

There's only one 'H' in 'Ampshire says...

Well.
Almost all Potty-Chinos signings have gone
Osvaldo - poor and attacked Jose
Ramirez - inconsitant and light weight
Artur - Nice bloke but unreliable and cost us games
Loveren - Judas
Waga - Gives ball away and I'd prefer Corky to him. I suspect Potty only played him as he felt he had to have one of his mega-quids signings playing

That's a fairly shabby managerial record. All the better players in the squad predated him
I predicted Levy sacking him in January
I'm not sure he will last that long
Well. Almost all Potty-Chinos signings have gone Osvaldo - poor and attacked Jose Ramirez - inconsitant and light weight Artur - Nice bloke but unreliable and cost us games Loveren - Judas Waga - Gives ball away and I'd prefer Corky to him. I suspect Potty only played him as he felt he had to have one of his mega-quids signings playing That's a fairly shabby managerial record. All the better players in the squad predated him I predicted Levy sacking him in January I'm not sure he will last that long There's only one 'H' in 'Ampshire
  • Score: 0

2:19pm Tue 2 Sep 14

SaintJD says...

There's only one 'H' in 'Ampshire wrote:
Well.
Almost all Potty-Chinos signings have gone
Osvaldo - poor and attacked Jose
Ramirez - inconsitant and light weight
Artur - Nice bloke but unreliable and cost us games
Loveren - Judas
Waga - Gives ball away and I'd prefer Corky to him. I suspect Potty only played him as he felt he had to have one of his mega-quids signings playing

That's a fairly shabby managerial record. All the better players in the squad predated him
I predicted Levy sacking him in January
I'm not sure he will last that long
Take your point but think Artur and Gaston were pre-Poch signings. Don't forget Forren. To be fair though I'm guessing Osvaldo is the only signing Poch made that he had any major involvement with - the others pretty much match our consistent policy of trying to bring in quality young-to-ideal age players who we can bring through.
[quote][p][bold]There's only one 'H' in 'Ampshire[/bold] wrote: Well. Almost all Potty-Chinos signings have gone Osvaldo - poor and attacked Jose Ramirez - inconsitant and light weight Artur - Nice bloke but unreliable and cost us games Loveren - Judas Waga - Gives ball away and I'd prefer Corky to him. I suspect Potty only played him as he felt he had to have one of his mega-quids signings playing That's a fairly shabby managerial record. All the better players in the squad predated him I predicted Levy sacking him in January I'm not sure he will last that long[/p][/quote]Take your point but think Artur and Gaston were pre-Poch signings. Don't forget Forren. To be fair though I'm guessing Osvaldo is the only signing Poch made that he had any major involvement with - the others pretty much match our consistent policy of trying to bring in quality young-to-ideal age players who we can bring through. SaintJD
  • Score: 0

3:35pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Churchill Saint says...

It has been a difficult summer for us Saints fans but we have not only come through the storm but come out the other side better and stronger. Just imagine if NC had not resigned. MP would have stayed and so would have most of the traitors. But I can't help thinking it would only have been a matter of time before NC and KL would have had a bust up. It was just a matter of when rather than if NC would resign. And when that happened this whole mess would have happened. So, better to have got it over and done with and start building a team of players and manager with that rare commodity in football - loyalty
It has been a difficult summer for us Saints fans but we have not only come through the storm but come out the other side better and stronger. Just imagine if NC had not resigned. MP would have stayed and so would have most of the traitors. But I can't help thinking it would only have been a matter of time before NC and KL would have had a bust up. It was just a matter of when rather than if NC would resign. And when that happened this whole mess would have happened. So, better to have got it over and done with and start building a team of players and manager with that rare commodity in football - loyalty Churchill Saint
  • Score: 4

3:52pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Churchill Saint says...

Vote of thanks to ManU, Arsenal, especially Liverpool and not forgetting Daniel Levy. Thank you for taken off our our hands a group men more interested in themselves than the club that gave them the opportunity (SRL excepted) - and paying so much over the odds that you have financed the great Southampton Football Club to become even greater.
Vote of thanks to ManU, Arsenal, especially Liverpool and not forgetting Daniel Levy. Thank you for taken off our our hands a group men more interested in themselves than the club that gave them the opportunity (SRL excepted) - and paying so much over the odds that you have financed the great Southampton Football Club to become even greater. Churchill Saint
  • Score: 4

8:06pm Tue 2 Sep 14

HookSaint says...

Churchill Saint wrote:
Vote of thanks to ManU, Arsenal, especially Liverpool and not forgetting Daniel Levy. Thank you for taken off our our hands a group men more interested in themselves than the club that gave them the opportunity (SRL excepted) - and paying so much over the odds that you have financed the great Southampton Football Club to become even greater.
Good statement, we never did let our ' best players' go did we. ..Schneiderlain, Cork, Clyne, Prowse all still here. Think we called lallanas bluff, if he thinks he is the best player, let him, see if he makes 20 starts for Liverpool shall we. Lambo is a legend and I won't say anything about him, Lovren was just a greedy parasite, good player, but not so good that we were desperate to keep him like Morgan.
Long to score next game.
[quote][p][bold]Churchill Saint[/bold] wrote: Vote of thanks to ManU, Arsenal, especially Liverpool and not forgetting Daniel Levy. Thank you for taken off our our hands a group men more interested in themselves than the club that gave them the opportunity (SRL excepted) - and paying so much over the odds that you have financed the great Southampton Football Club to become even greater.[/p][/quote]Good statement, we never did let our ' best players' go did we. ..Schneiderlain, Cork, Clyne, Prowse all still here. Think we called lallanas bluff, if he thinks he is the best player, let him, see if he makes 20 starts for Liverpool shall we. Lambo is a legend and I won't say anything about him, Lovren was just a greedy parasite, good player, but not so good that we were desperate to keep him like Morgan. Long to score next game. HookSaint
  • Score: 3
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