RUMOUR MILL, August 25: Saints up Townsend bid

RUMOUR MILL, August 25: Saints up Townsend bid

Nathan Redmond

First published in Football

The Daily Echo takes a look at the transfer rumours appearing in the media today...

Saints have increased their bid for Andros Townsend to £12m, according to Sky Sports.

The club have already had a £10m offer for the 23-year-old knocked back this summer, and are now said to have gone back in for the player.

However, Spurs have reportedly informed Saints that Townsend is not for sale.

Elsewhere, the Daily Mirror is reporting that Ronald Koeman has a different target, and is aiming to sign Norwich winger Nathan Redmond this week for £4m.

Saints offered £3m for the 20-year-old earlier this summer, but the Canaries rejected that.

Although, with Stoke having failed to land the England Under-21 international with a £5m bid, Saints would likely have to go higher than £4m.

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9:37am Mon 25 Aug 14

SnapperSaint says...

Either would be good, so why not tell Spuds to take a hike, they are just being hissy over Spider anyway, and save 5 million in the process by getting Redmond!
Either would be good, so why not tell Spuds to take a hike, they are just being hissy over Spider anyway, and save 5 million in the process by getting Redmond! SnapperSaint
  • Score: 11

9:58am Mon 25 Aug 14

pitbull says...

A good quick winger is what we're really missing. Tadic is looking a really good buy.

I think Redmond would be a better bet, Townsend seems to be a bit of a sicknote.

Apparently, we're also interested in Toby Alderweireld from Athletico Madrid.
Only time will tell.
A good quick winger is what we're really missing. Tadic is looking a really good buy. I think Redmond would be a better bet, Townsend seems to be a bit of a sicknote. Apparently, we're also interested in Toby Alderweireld from Athletico Madrid. Only time will tell. pitbull
  • Score: 11

10:09am Mon 25 Aug 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Townsend probably better than Redmond but both have Premiership experience so either if they can get decent crosses into the box for Pelle' s head, if we are to get the best from him..

However biggest need is for a top quality CB and a proven Goalscorer.

CB options:- Phillip Wollscheid (or van Dijk, possibly Kongolo), Vlaar is getting older and slower but would be OK for a couple of seasons.

Goalscorer:- Bony (or beat Sunderland to Fabio Borini or Salomon Kalou), or Samuel E'to'o for a season as he is a free agent.

I would also love to see us sign Jordy Classie as well.

We need more quality if we added these four players we will be better than last season. They are all in our price range so no reason not to get them in this week.

Come on Les keep at it, Saturday showed that we need this extra quality.

COYR&WS
Townsend probably better than Redmond but both have Premiership experience so either if they can get decent crosses into the box for Pelle' s head, if we are to get the best from him.. However biggest need is for a top quality CB and a proven Goalscorer. CB options:- Phillip Wollscheid (or van Dijk, possibly Kongolo), Vlaar is getting older and slower but would be OK for a couple of seasons. Goalscorer:- Bony (or beat Sunderland to Fabio Borini or Salomon Kalou), or Samuel E'to'o for a season as he is a free agent. I would also love to see us sign Jordy Classie as well. We need more quality if we added these four players we will be better than last season. They are all in our price range so no reason not to get them in this week. Come on Les keep at it, Saturday showed that we need this extra quality. COYR&WS NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 9

10:18am Mon 25 Aug 14

NC Fan4Life says...

I have also just seen the link with Toby Alderwweireld, played for Belgium in World Cup & only 25yr would be a great buy, so go get him Les.
I have also just seen the link with Toby Alderwweireld, played for Belgium in World Cup & only 25yr would be a great buy, so go get him Les. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 8

10:26am Mon 25 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Toby Alderweireld, we would never spell his name right, rejected! Seriously though, he would be a useful defensive addition, but for how much?
Toby Alderweireld, we would never spell his name right, rejected! Seriously though, he would be a useful defensive addition, but for how much? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 6

10:45am Mon 25 Aug 14

St.Shakeshaft says...

I'm fine with us going for these guys but, anyone else think that we really need another striker?
I'm fine with us going for these guys but, anyone else think that we really need another striker? St.Shakeshaft
  • Score: 12

10:57am Mon 25 Aug 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
Townsend probably better than Redmond but both have Premiership experience so either if they can get decent crosses into the box for Pelle' s head, if we are to get the best from him..

However biggest need is for a top quality CB and a proven Goalscorer.

CB options:- Phillip Wollscheid (or van Dijk, possibly Kongolo), Vlaar is getting older and slower but would be OK for a couple of seasons.

Goalscorer:- Bony (or beat Sunderland to Fabio Borini or Salomon Kalou), or Samuel E'to'o for a season as he is a free agent.

I would also love to see us sign Jordy Classie as well.

We need more quality if we added these four players we will be better than last season. They are all in our price range so no reason not to get them in this week.

Come on Les keep at it, Saturday showed that we need this extra quality.

COYR&WS
Luckily, Saints aren't playing Football Manager 2014, this is the real world.

If we sign Townsend we won't have much left in the transfer kitty. If we sign Redmond or someone of similar value we'll probably have enough to sign 2 players.
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Townsend probably better than Redmond but both have Premiership experience so either if they can get decent crosses into the box for Pelle' s head, if we are to get the best from him.. However biggest need is for a top quality CB and a proven Goalscorer. CB options:- Phillip Wollscheid (or van Dijk, possibly Kongolo), Vlaar is getting older and slower but would be OK for a couple of seasons. Goalscorer:- Bony (or beat Sunderland to Fabio Borini or Salomon Kalou), or Samuel E'to'o for a season as he is a free agent. I would also love to see us sign Jordy Classie as well. We need more quality if we added these four players we will be better than last season. They are all in our price range so no reason not to get them in this week. Come on Les keep at it, Saturday showed that we need this extra quality. COYR&WS[/p][/quote]Luckily, Saints aren't playing Football Manager 2014, this is the real world. If we sign Townsend we won't have much left in the transfer kitty. If we sign Redmond or someone of similar value we'll probably have enough to sign 2 players. SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: 14

11:39am Mon 25 Aug 14

Saint_RV says...

12m bid rejected from Spurs. Let's move on to the next target
12m bid rejected from Spurs. Let's move on to the next target Saint_RV
  • Score: 12

11:39am Mon 25 Aug 14

DisplacedFan says...

SouthamptonLegend wrote:
NC Fan4Life wrote:
Townsend probably better than Redmond but both have Premiership experience so either if they can get decent crosses into the box for Pelle' s head, if we are to get the best from him..

However biggest need is for a top quality CB and a proven Goalscorer.

CB options:- Phillip Wollscheid (or van Dijk, possibly Kongolo), Vlaar is getting older and slower but would be OK for a couple of seasons.

Goalscorer:- Bony (or beat Sunderland to Fabio Borini or Salomon Kalou), or Samuel E'to'o for a season as he is a free agent.

I would also love to see us sign Jordy Classie as well.

We need more quality if we added these four players we will be better than last season. They are all in our price range so no reason not to get them in this week.

Come on Les keep at it, Saturday showed that we need this extra quality.

COYR&WS
Luckily, Saints aren't playing Football Manager 2014, this is the real world.

If we sign Townsend we won't have much left in the transfer kitty. If we sign Redmond or someone of similar value we'll probably have enough to sign 2 players.
Are you. Kidding? We were promised 30 million before we sold any players. We spent 45 million. We took in 90 million. Do the math. There is a ton of money left.
[quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Townsend probably better than Redmond but both have Premiership experience so either if they can get decent crosses into the box for Pelle' s head, if we are to get the best from him.. However biggest need is for a top quality CB and a proven Goalscorer. CB options:- Phillip Wollscheid (or van Dijk, possibly Kongolo), Vlaar is getting older and slower but would be OK for a couple of seasons. Goalscorer:- Bony (or beat Sunderland to Fabio Borini or Salomon Kalou), or Samuel E'to'o for a season as he is a free agent. I would also love to see us sign Jordy Classie as well. We need more quality if we added these four players we will be better than last season. They are all in our price range so no reason not to get them in this week. Come on Les keep at it, Saturday showed that we need this extra quality. COYR&WS[/p][/quote]Luckily, Saints aren't playing Football Manager 2014, this is the real world. If we sign Townsend we won't have much left in the transfer kitty. If we sign Redmond or someone of similar value we'll probably have enough to sign 2 players.[/p][/quote]Are you. Kidding? We were promised 30 million before we sold any players. We spent 45 million. We took in 90 million. Do the math. There is a ton of money left. DisplacedFan
  • Score: 4

12:11pm Mon 25 Aug 14

damoose says...

Agree with you NC ,Sam E`to would get 10/15 goals for us from the bench ,must be his high wages why nobody has picked him up yet

In any case if we dont press high up the pitch, this will be a long long season,we cant go back to a striker just strolling about for flick on`s .our players like to go hunting,why change it

Cant get a ticket to be with you guys,so I will be in with the Millwall slum lords hoping they dont catch a glimpse of my Saintly mannerisms .. and to anybody that knows me ,please but do not say hi
Agree with you NC ,Sam E`to would get 10/15 goals for us from the bench ,must be his high wages why nobody has picked him up yet In any case if we dont press high up the pitch, this will be a long long season,we cant go back to a striker just strolling about for flick on`s .our players like to go hunting,why change it Cant get a ticket to be with you guys,so I will be in with the Millwall slum lords hoping they dont catch a glimpse of my Saintly mannerisms .. and to anybody that knows me ,please but do not say hi damoose
  • Score: 3

12:11pm Mon 25 Aug 14

techsture says...

4 million for Redmond is an insult for a player who will soon be an England Regular.

Get the checkbook out Reed sign it and then resign.
4 million for Redmond is an insult for a player who will soon be an England Regular. Get the checkbook out Reed sign it and then resign. techsture
  • Score: -7

12:12pm Mon 25 Aug 14

Chicago Saint says...

SnapperSaint wrote:
Either would be good, so why not tell Spuds to take a hike, they are just being hissy over Spider anyway, and save 5 million in the process by getting Redmond!
Me thinks we should continue making bids for Townsend and unrest the player just like they have done with MS. How does that feel Rottenham?
[quote][p][bold]SnapperSaint[/bold] wrote: Either would be good, so why not tell Spuds to take a hike, they are just being hissy over Spider anyway, and save 5 million in the process by getting Redmond![/p][/quote]Me thinks we should continue making bids for Townsend and unrest the player just like they have done with MS. How does that feel Rottenham? Chicago Saint
  • Score: 12

12:18pm Mon 25 Aug 14

Shareholder says...

Spurs today rejected our new bid of £12m yesterday so that should be the end of that one - I don't think he's even worth that much. Better to offer £6-7m for Remond in my view - he seems to have a broader range to his game.
Spurs today rejected our new bid of £12m yesterday so that should be the end of that one - I don't think he's even worth that much. Better to offer £6-7m for Remond in my view - he seems to have a broader range to his game. Shareholder
  • Score: 11

1:01pm Mon 25 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

If Cortese had signed Townsend last season for 12m when he was scoring for England and terrifying left backs everyone would have stated our ambition and been cheering from the stands. Lets get him and give defences something to really think about.
If Cortese had signed Townsend last season for 12m when he was scoring for England and terrifying left backs everyone would have stated our ambition and been cheering from the stands. Lets get him and give defences something to really think about. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 0

1:13pm Mon 25 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
If Cortese had signed Townsend last season for 12m when he was scoring for England and terrifying left backs everyone would have stated our ambition and been cheering from the stands. Lets get him and give defences something to really think about.
If he's still "scoring for England and terrifying left backs", I think a lot of people on here would be very quick to agree with you. It seems he isn't though, and even though he might be able to get back to his best, Spurs don't seem to want to sell him. Probably wisest to look elsewhere.
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: If Cortese had signed Townsend last season for 12m when he was scoring for England and terrifying left backs everyone would have stated our ambition and been cheering from the stands. Lets get him and give defences something to really think about.[/p][/quote]If he's still "scoring for England and terrifying left backs", I think a lot of people on here would be very quick to agree with you. It seems he isn't though, and even though he might be able to get back to his best, Spurs don't seem to want to sell him. Probably wisest to look elsewhere. Rising_Son
  • Score: 6

1:16pm Mon 25 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
If Cortese had signed Townsend last season for 12m when he was scoring for England and terrifying left backs everyone would have stated our ambition and been cheering from the stands. Lets get him and give defences something to really think about.
If he's still "scoring for England and terrifying left backs", I think a lot of people on here would be very quick to agree with you. It seems he isn't though, and even though he might be able to get back to his best, Spurs don't seem to want to sell him. Probably wisest to look elsewhere.
Fair comment
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: If Cortese had signed Townsend last season for 12m when he was scoring for England and terrifying left backs everyone would have stated our ambition and been cheering from the stands. Lets get him and give defences something to really think about.[/p][/quote]If he's still "scoring for England and terrifying left backs", I think a lot of people on here would be very quick to agree with you. It seems he isn't though, and even though he might be able to get back to his best, Spurs don't seem to want to sell him. Probably wisest to look elsewhere.[/p][/quote]Fair comment Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 6

1:55pm Mon 25 Aug 14

saintand266 says...

I think we could do a lot worse than try and sign Lucas Poldolski from arsenal.
They are looking to sell him and he would be a much better option than townsend, he can play out wide and scores a few goals as well .
The only stumbling block is our ability to attract big names because of all the negative press we have had.
I think we could do a lot worse than try and sign Lucas Poldolski from arsenal. They are looking to sell him and he would be a much better option than townsend, he can play out wide and scores a few goals as well . The only stumbling block is our ability to attract big names because of all the negative press we have had. saintand266
  • Score: 4

2:15pm Mon 25 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

saintand266 wrote:
I think we could do a lot worse than try and sign Lucas Poldolski from arsenal.
They are looking to sell him and he would be a much better option than townsend, he can play out wide and scores a few goals as well .
The only stumbling block is our ability to attract big names because of all the negative press we have had.
The real stumbling blocks are unrealistic wage demands, if you would care to sponsor his income I am sure Podolski would sign for us
[quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote: I think we could do a lot worse than try and sign Lucas Poldolski from arsenal. They are looking to sell him and he would be a much better option than townsend, he can play out wide and scores a few goals as well . The only stumbling block is our ability to attract big names because of all the negative press we have had.[/p][/quote]The real stumbling blocks are unrealistic wage demands, if you would care to sponsor his income I am sure Podolski would sign for us OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

2:32pm Mon 25 Aug 14

saintand266 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintand266 wrote:
I think we could do a lot worse than try and sign Lucas Poldolski from arsenal.
They are looking to sell him and he would be a much better option than townsend, he can play out wide and scores a few goals as well .
The only stumbling block is our ability to attract big names because of all the negative press we have had.
The real stumbling blocks are unrealistic wage demands, if you would care to sponsor his income I am sure Podolski would sign for us
I agree about his wages but it's reported wolfsburg are an option for him and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be able to afford his current wages so presumably he will have to take a big cut as most German clubs can't pay big wages .
We reportedly paid big wages to Osvaldo so why not pay bigger wages to a proven premiership player
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote: I think we could do a lot worse than try and sign Lucas Poldolski from arsenal. They are looking to sell him and he would be a much better option than townsend, he can play out wide and scores a few goals as well . The only stumbling block is our ability to attract big names because of all the negative press we have had.[/p][/quote]The real stumbling blocks are unrealistic wage demands, if you would care to sponsor his income I am sure Podolski would sign for us[/p][/quote]I agree about his wages but it's reported wolfsburg are an option for him and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be able to afford his current wages so presumably he will have to take a big cut as most German clubs can't pay big wages . We reportedly paid big wages to Osvaldo so why not pay bigger wages to a proven premiership player saintand266
  • Score: 4

2:38pm Mon 25 Aug 14

allyuk says...

Wouldn't pay over the odds for Townsend, Would rather see us go for Redmond and get another striker in.

Striker wise I would go for Wellbeck, Bas Dost, Pierre-Michel Lasogga

Winger any of the below would do a job

Mario Gotze, Bulot, Ryad Boudebouz, Will Hughes, Could even put a cheeky bid in for Shinji Kagaw, or Loan Thorgan Hazard.

Get that check book out!
Wouldn't pay over the odds for Townsend, Would rather see us go for Redmond and get another striker in. Striker wise I would go for Wellbeck, Bas Dost, Pierre-Michel Lasogga Winger any of the below would do a job Mario Gotze, Bulot, Ryad Boudebouz, Will Hughes, Could even put a cheeky bid in for Shinji Kagaw, or Loan Thorgan Hazard. Get that check book out! allyuk
  • Score: 1

2:39pm Mon 25 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

I think it is more about what we are allowed to pay rather than what we can afford, FFP rules.
I think it is more about what we are allowed to pay rather than what we can afford, FFP rules. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

2:41pm Mon 25 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

saintand266 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintand266 wrote:
I think we could do a lot worse than try and sign Lucas Poldolski from arsenal.
They are looking to sell him and he would be a much better option than townsend, he can play out wide and scores a few goals as well .
The only stumbling block is our ability to attract big names because of all the negative press we have had.
The real stumbling blocks are unrealistic wage demands, if you would care to sponsor his income I am sure Podolski would sign for us
I agree about his wages but it's reported wolfsburg are an option for him and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be able to afford his current wages so presumably he will have to take a big cut as most German clubs can't pay big wages .
We reportedly paid big wages to Osvaldo so why not pay bigger wages to a proven premiership player
I don't understand how FFP works, perhaps you can make sense of it,

http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/sport/footbal
l/article-2274957/Fi
nancial-Fair-Play-Pr
emier-League-agree-f
inancial-cap-clubs-f
ace-points-deduction
.html
[quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote: I think we could do a lot worse than try and sign Lucas Poldolski from arsenal. They are looking to sell him and he would be a much better option than townsend, he can play out wide and scores a few goals as well . The only stumbling block is our ability to attract big names because of all the negative press we have had.[/p][/quote]The real stumbling blocks are unrealistic wage demands, if you would care to sponsor his income I am sure Podolski would sign for us[/p][/quote]I agree about his wages but it's reported wolfsburg are an option for him and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be able to afford his current wages so presumably he will have to take a big cut as most German clubs can't pay big wages . We reportedly paid big wages to Osvaldo so why not pay bigger wages to a proven premiership player[/p][/quote]I don't understand how FFP works, perhaps you can make sense of it, http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2274957/Fi nancial-Fair-Play-Pr emier-League-agree-f inancial-cap-clubs-f ace-points-deduction .html OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

2:45pm Mon 25 Aug 14

zurichboy says...

Just saw this on "Tribal Football"........so the grass always looks greener (or redder, in this case) but very rarely is it seems.

........."QPR boss Harry Redknapp says Rickie Lambert will be unhappy with Mario Balotelli's arrival at Liverpool.
The England striker joined the Reds in the summer from Southampton, but with Balotelli due to arrive will be nudged further down the Anfield pecking order.
And QPR boss Redknapp told The Sun: "The one player I feel sorry for in all this is Rickie Lambert.
"He fulfilled a dream going back to his hometown club in the summer. But he is likely to be third choice behind Daniel Sturridge and Mario Balotelli......
Just saw this on "Tribal Football"........so the grass always looks greener (or redder, in this case) but very rarely is it seems. ........."QPR boss Harry Redknapp says Rickie Lambert will be unhappy with Mario Balotelli's arrival at Liverpool. The England striker joined the Reds in the summer from Southampton, but with Balotelli due to arrive will be nudged further down the Anfield pecking order. And QPR boss Redknapp told The Sun: "The one player I feel sorry for in all this is Rickie Lambert. "He fulfilled a dream going back to his hometown club in the summer. But he is likely to be third choice behind Daniel Sturridge and Mario Balotelli...... zurichboy
  • Score: 2

2:48pm Mon 25 Aug 14

allyuk says...

Put a bid in for Lambert then get him back! :)
Put a bid in for Lambert then get him back! :) allyuk
  • Score: 1

2:54pm Mon 25 Aug 14

saintand266 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintand266 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintand266 wrote:
I think we could do a lot worse than try and sign Lucas Poldolski from arsenal.
They are looking to sell him and he would be a much better option than townsend, he can play out wide and scores a few goals as well .
The only stumbling block is our ability to attract big names because of all the negative press we have had.
The real stumbling blocks are unrealistic wage demands, if you would care to sponsor his income I am sure Podolski would sign for us
I agree about his wages but it's reported wolfsburg are an option for him and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be able to afford his current wages so presumably he will have to take a big cut as most German clubs can't pay big wages .
We reportedly paid big wages to Osvaldo so why not pay bigger wages to a proven premiership player
I don't understand how FFP works, perhaps you can make sense of it,

http://www.dailymail

.co.uk/sport/footbal

l/article-2274957/Fi

nancial-Fair-Play-Pr

emier-League-agree-f

inancial-cap-clubs-f

ace-points-deduction

.html
I'm not sure of the restrictions off the ffp rules ,
But we were interested in Hernandez - surely he has pretty big wage demands
Townsend -I'd imagine his wages would be 50,000 a week at least.
So if the boards bid for these two players are genuine then I think it's fair to assume that the ffp rules shouldn't come in to it .
I just think if the club are willing to spend 12 million plus a probable 50,000 a week on townsend then an offer to arsenal/Poldolski may be a better alternative but then I'm just a fan so what do I know
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote: I think we could do a lot worse than try and sign Lucas Poldolski from arsenal. They are looking to sell him and he would be a much better option than townsend, he can play out wide and scores a few goals as well . The only stumbling block is our ability to attract big names because of all the negative press we have had.[/p][/quote]The real stumbling blocks are unrealistic wage demands, if you would care to sponsor his income I am sure Podolski would sign for us[/p][/quote]I agree about his wages but it's reported wolfsburg are an option for him and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be able to afford his current wages so presumably he will have to take a big cut as most German clubs can't pay big wages . We reportedly paid big wages to Osvaldo so why not pay bigger wages to a proven premiership player[/p][/quote]I don't understand how FFP works, perhaps you can make sense of it, http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2274957/Fi nancial-Fair-Play-Pr emier-League-agree-f inancial-cap-clubs-f ace-points-deduction .html[/p][/quote]I'm not sure of the restrictions off the ffp rules , But we were interested in Hernandez - surely he has pretty big wage demands Townsend -I'd imagine his wages would be 50,000 a week at least. So if the boards bid for these two players are genuine then I think it's fair to assume that the ffp rules shouldn't come in to it . I just think if the club are willing to spend 12 million plus a probable 50,000 a week on townsend then an offer to arsenal/Poldolski may be a better alternative but then I'm just a fan so what do I know saintand266
  • Score: 0

3:30pm Mon 25 Aug 14

BigTankie says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
Townsend probably better than Redmond but both have Premiership experience so either if they can get decent crosses into the box for Pelle' s head, if we are to get the best from him..

However biggest need is for a top quality CB and a proven Goalscorer.

CB options:- Phillip Wollscheid (or van Dijk, possibly Kongolo), Vlaar is getting older and slower but would be OK for a couple of seasons.

Goalscorer:- Bony (or beat Sunderland to Fabio Borini or Salomon Kalou), or Samuel E'to'o for a season as he is a free agent.

I would also love to see us sign Jordy Classie as well.

We need more quality if we added these four players we will be better than last season. They are all in our price range so no reason not to get them in this week.

Come on Les keep at it, Saturday showed that we need this extra quality.

COYR&WS
I sorry to say this but my wife is a canary, Redmond really cannot cross the ball ! or pass it or shoot and he is better than dros Townsend, who is the most predictable winger ever.
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Townsend probably better than Redmond but both have Premiership experience so either if they can get decent crosses into the box for Pelle' s head, if we are to get the best from him.. However biggest need is for a top quality CB and a proven Goalscorer. CB options:- Phillip Wollscheid (or van Dijk, possibly Kongolo), Vlaar is getting older and slower but would be OK for a couple of seasons. Goalscorer:- Bony (or beat Sunderland to Fabio Borini or Salomon Kalou), or Samuel E'to'o for a season as he is a free agent. I would also love to see us sign Jordy Classie as well. We need more quality if we added these four players we will be better than last season. They are all in our price range so no reason not to get them in this week. Come on Les keep at it, Saturday showed that we need this extra quality. COYR&WS[/p][/quote]I sorry to say this but my wife is a canary, Redmond really cannot cross the ball ! or pass it or shoot and he is better than dros Townsend, who is the most predictable winger ever. BigTankie
  • Score: 1

3:35pm Mon 25 Aug 14

BigTankie says...

techsture wrote:
4 million for Redmond is an insult for a player who will soon be an England Regular.

Get the checkbook out Reed sign it and then resign.
Norwich fans would love to get rid of Redmond for what they paid £3.2M
my wife and brother-in-law are Carrow Rd season ticket holder Redmond can't cross, can't shoot and can't pass he is league one at the best. Listen to CanaryCall
[quote][p][bold]techsture[/bold] wrote: 4 million for Redmond is an insult for a player who will soon be an England Regular. Get the checkbook out Reed sign it and then resign.[/p][/quote]Norwich fans would love to get rid of Redmond for what they paid £3.2M my wife and brother-in-law are Carrow Rd season ticket holder Redmond can't cross, can't shoot and can't pass he is league one at the best. Listen to CanaryCall BigTankie
  • Score: 1

4:21pm Mon 25 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

saintand266 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintand266 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintand266 wrote:
I think we could do a lot worse than try and sign Lucas Poldolski from arsenal.
They are looking to sell him and he would be a much better option than townsend, he can play out wide and scores a few goals as well .
The only stumbling block is our ability to attract big names because of all the negative press we have had.
The real stumbling blocks are unrealistic wage demands, if you would care to sponsor his income I am sure Podolski would sign for us
I agree about his wages but it's reported wolfsburg are an option for him and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be able to afford his current wages so presumably he will have to take a big cut as most German clubs can't pay big wages .
We reportedly paid big wages to Osvaldo so why not pay bigger wages to a proven premiership player
I don't understand how FFP works, perhaps you can make sense of it,

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I'm not sure of the restrictions off the ffp rules ,
But we were interested in Hernandez - surely he has pretty big wage demands
Townsend -I'd imagine his wages would be 50,000 a week at least.
So if the boards bid for these two players are genuine then I think it's fair to assume that the ffp rules shouldn't come in to it .
I just think if the club are willing to spend 12 million plus a probable 50,000 a week on townsend then an offer to arsenal/Poldolski may be a better alternative but then I'm just a fan so what do I know
Try
http://www.financial
fairplay.co.uk/finan
cial-fair-play-expla
ined.php

If anyone can work out how it would affect us please explain in simple terms, thanks in advance.
[quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote: I think we could do a lot worse than try and sign Lucas Poldolski from arsenal. They are looking to sell him and he would be a much better option than townsend, he can play out wide and scores a few goals as well . The only stumbling block is our ability to attract big names because of all the negative press we have had.[/p][/quote]The real stumbling blocks are unrealistic wage demands, if you would care to sponsor his income I am sure Podolski would sign for us[/p][/quote]I agree about his wages but it's reported wolfsburg are an option for him and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be able to afford his current wages so presumably he will have to take a big cut as most German clubs can't pay big wages . We reportedly paid big wages to Osvaldo so why not pay bigger wages to a proven premiership player[/p][/quote]I don't understand how FFP works, perhaps you can make sense of it, http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2274957/Fi nancial-Fair-Play-Pr emier-League-agree-f inancial-cap-clubs-f ace-points-deduction .html[/p][/quote]I'm not sure of the restrictions off the ffp rules , But we were interested in Hernandez - surely he has pretty big wage demands Townsend -I'd imagine his wages would be 50,000 a week at least. So if the boards bid for these two players are genuine then I think it's fair to assume that the ffp rules shouldn't come in to it . I just think if the club are willing to spend 12 million plus a probable 50,000 a week on townsend then an offer to arsenal/Poldolski may be a better alternative but then I'm just a fan so what do I know[/p][/quote]Try http://www.financial fairplay.co.uk/finan cial-fair-play-expla ined.php If anyone can work out how it would affect us please explain in simple terms, thanks in advance. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

4:43pm Mon 25 Aug 14

north wales saint 2 says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
Townsend probably better than Redmond but both have Premiership experience so either if they can get decent crosses into the box for Pelle' s head, if we are to get the best from him..

However biggest need is for a top quality CB and a proven Goalscorer.

CB options:- Phillip Wollscheid (or van Dijk, possibly Kongolo), Vlaar is getting older and slower but would be OK for a couple of seasons.

Goalscorer:- Bony (or beat Sunderland to Fabio Borini or Salomon Kalou), or Samuel E'to'o for a season as he is a free agent.

I would also love to see us sign Jordy Classie as well.

We need more quality if we added these four players we will be better than last season. They are all in our price range so no reason not to get them in this week.

Come on Les keep at it, Saturday showed that we need this extra quality.

COYR&WS
You seem determined to get rid of our skipper.I do however agree with you about a proven goalscorer needed.For me our defence is not a problem.
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Townsend probably better than Redmond but both have Premiership experience so either if they can get decent crosses into the box for Pelle' s head, if we are to get the best from him.. However biggest need is for a top quality CB and a proven Goalscorer. CB options:- Phillip Wollscheid (or van Dijk, possibly Kongolo), Vlaar is getting older and slower but would be OK for a couple of seasons. Goalscorer:- Bony (or beat Sunderland to Fabio Borini or Salomon Kalou), or Samuel E'to'o for a season as he is a free agent. I would also love to see us sign Jordy Classie as well. We need more quality if we added these four players we will be better than last season. They are all in our price range so no reason not to get them in this week. Come on Les keep at it, Saturday showed that we need this extra quality. COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You seem determined to get rid of our skipper.I do however agree with you about a proven goalscorer needed.For me our defence is not a problem. north wales saint 2
  • Score: 0

6:02pm Mon 25 Aug 14

NC Fan4Life says...

north wales saint 2 wrote:
NC Fan4Life wrote:
Townsend probably better than Redmond but both have Premiership experience so either if they can get decent crosses into the box for Pelle' s head, if we are to get the best from him..

However biggest need is for a top quality CB and a proven Goalscorer.

CB options:- Phillip Wollscheid (or van Dijk, possibly Kongolo), Vlaar is getting older and slower but would be OK for a couple of seasons.

Goalscorer:- Bony (or beat Sunderland to Fabio Borini or Salomon Kalou), or Samuel E'to'o for a season as he is a free agent.

I would also love to see us sign Jordy Classie as well.

We need more quality if we added these four players we will be better than last season. They are all in our price range so no reason not to get them in this week.

Come on Les keep at it, Saturday showed that we need this extra quality.

COYR&WS
You seem determined to get rid of our skipper.I do however agree with you about a proven goalscorer needed.For me our defence is not a problem.
Last season the majority thought we needed a better CB to partner Lovren, nothing has changed.
I am not looking to get rid of Jose just want two better CB's to give competition and cover.
Not sure if Gardos is any better as I have not seen him but it is a Gamble not to sign another one, Yoshida can be 4th choice and Hoover can be released.
[quote][p][bold]north wales saint 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Townsend probably better than Redmond but both have Premiership experience so either if they can get decent crosses into the box for Pelle' s head, if we are to get the best from him.. However biggest need is for a top quality CB and a proven Goalscorer. CB options:- Phillip Wollscheid (or van Dijk, possibly Kongolo), Vlaar is getting older and slower but would be OK for a couple of seasons. Goalscorer:- Bony (or beat Sunderland to Fabio Borini or Salomon Kalou), or Samuel E'to'o for a season as he is a free agent. I would also love to see us sign Jordy Classie as well. We need more quality if we added these four players we will be better than last season. They are all in our price range so no reason not to get them in this week. Come on Les keep at it, Saturday showed that we need this extra quality. COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You seem determined to get rid of our skipper.I do however agree with you about a proven goalscorer needed.For me our defence is not a problem.[/p][/quote]Last season the majority thought we needed a better CB to partner Lovren, nothing has changed. I am not looking to get rid of Jose just want two better CB's to give competition and cover. Not sure if Gardos is any better as I have not seen him but it is a Gamble not to sign another one, Yoshida can be 4th choice and Hoover can be released. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 0

6:07pm Mon 25 Aug 14

mickey01 says...

He doesn't want to leave so i think another unhappy player in the squad would not be helpful thank you
He doesn't want to leave so i think another unhappy player in the squad would not be helpful thank you mickey01
  • Score: 0

6:09pm Mon 25 Aug 14

jls217 says...

SouthamptonLegend wrote:
NC Fan4Life wrote:
Townsend probably better than Redmond but both have Premiership experience so either if they can get decent crosses into the box for Pelle' s head, if we are to get the best from him..

However biggest need is for a top quality CB and a proven Goalscorer.

CB options:- Phillip Wollscheid (or van Dijk, possibly Kongolo), Vlaar is getting older and slower but would be OK for a couple of seasons.

Goalscorer:- Bony (or beat Sunderland to Fabio Borini or Salomon Kalou), or Samuel E'to'o for a season as he is a free agent.

I would also love to see us sign Jordy Classie as well.

We need more quality if we added these four players we will be better than last season. They are all in our price range so no reason not to get them in this week.

Come on Les keep at it, Saturday showed that we need this extra quality.

COYR&WS
Luckily, Saints aren't playing Football Manager 2014, this is the real world.

If we sign Townsend we won't have much left in the transfer kitty. If we sign Redmond or someone of similar value we'll probably have enough to sign 2 players.
Legend - you're being far too logical for this forum - expect to earn lots of thumbs down but not from me on this one.
[quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Townsend probably better than Redmond but both have Premiership experience so either if they can get decent crosses into the box for Pelle' s head, if we are to get the best from him.. However biggest need is for a top quality CB and a proven Goalscorer. CB options:- Phillip Wollscheid (or van Dijk, possibly Kongolo), Vlaar is getting older and slower but would be OK for a couple of seasons. Goalscorer:- Bony (or beat Sunderland to Fabio Borini or Salomon Kalou), or Samuel E'to'o for a season as he is a free agent. I would also love to see us sign Jordy Classie as well. We need more quality if we added these four players we will be better than last season. They are all in our price range so no reason not to get them in this week. Come on Les keep at it, Saturday showed that we need this extra quality. COYR&WS[/p][/quote]Luckily, Saints aren't playing Football Manager 2014, this is the real world. If we sign Townsend we won't have much left in the transfer kitty. If we sign Redmond or someone of similar value we'll probably have enough to sign 2 players.[/p][/quote]Legend - you're being far too logical for this forum - expect to earn lots of thumbs down but not from me on this one. jls217
  • Score: 1

6:10pm Mon 25 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

I don't rate Townsend or Redmond....not good enough or any better than what we've already signed. I kind of agree with NC Fan4Life that we
definitely need a winger but better than those two and also need a proper goalscorer and possibly another CB who need to be better than the one's we've already signed.
I don't think we'll get anything like the type of player we'd all want though so may have to wait until January to see where we are then and then panic if necessary. Looks like it could be long winter coming up.....but fingers crossed something amazing happens and the team and new signings get dusted with fairy dust and everything ends up ok and we all live happily ever after.
I don't rate Townsend or Redmond....not good enough or any better than what we've already signed. I kind of agree with NC Fan4Life that we definitely need a winger but better than those two and also need a proper goalscorer and possibly another CB who need to be better than the one's we've already signed. I don't think we'll get anything like the type of player we'd all want though so may have to wait until January to see where we are then and then panic if necessary. Looks like it could be long winter coming up.....but fingers crossed something amazing happens and the team and new signings get dusted with fairy dust and everything ends up ok and we all live happily ever after. J7junctionseven
  • Score: -1

6:11pm Mon 25 Aug 14

jls217 says...

saintand266 wrote:
I think we could do a lot worse than try and sign Lucas Poldolski from arsenal.
They are looking to sell him and he would be a much better option than townsend, he can play out wide and scores a few goals as well .
The only stumbling block is our ability to attract big names because of all the negative press we have had.
He would be a great signing but I doubt we'd match his wages or the Kudos of the sort of club he would be expected to play for. Mind you many of us thought the same when Keegan chose us much to our collective surprise.
[quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote: I think we could do a lot worse than try and sign Lucas Poldolski from arsenal. They are looking to sell him and he would be a much better option than townsend, he can play out wide and scores a few goals as well . The only stumbling block is our ability to attract big names because of all the negative press we have had.[/p][/quote]He would be a great signing but I doubt we'd match his wages or the Kudos of the sort of club he would be expected to play for. Mind you many of us thought the same when Keegan chose us much to our collective surprise. jls217
  • Score: 0

6:14pm Mon 25 Aug 14

jls217 says...

DisplacedFan wrote:
SouthamptonLegend wrote:
NC Fan4Life wrote:
Townsend probably better than Redmond but both have Premiership experience so either if they can get decent crosses into the box for Pelle' s head, if we are to get the best from him..

However biggest need is for a top quality CB and a proven Goalscorer.

CB options:- Phillip Wollscheid (or van Dijk, possibly Kongolo), Vlaar is getting older and slower but would be OK for a couple of seasons.

Goalscorer:- Bony (or beat Sunderland to Fabio Borini or Salomon Kalou), or Samuel E'to'o for a season as he is a free agent.

I would also love to see us sign Jordy Classie as well.

We need more quality if we added these four players we will be better than last season. They are all in our price range so no reason not to get them in this week.

Come on Les keep at it, Saturday showed that we need this extra quality.

COYR&WS
Luckily, Saints aren't playing Football Manager 2014, this is the real world.

If we sign Townsend we won't have much left in the transfer kitty. If we sign Redmond or someone of similar value we'll probably have enough to sign 2 players.
Are you. Kidding? We were promised 30 million before we sold any players. We spent 45 million. We took in 90 million. Do the math. There is a ton of money left.
I don't think there is - follow your own advice and do the beancounting - it's been done to death on here so I'm not going to help you - do it yourself.
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Townsend probably better than Redmond but both have Premiership experience so either if they can get decent crosses into the box for Pelle' s head, if we are to get the best from him.. However biggest need is for a top quality CB and a proven Goalscorer. CB options:- Phillip Wollscheid (or van Dijk, possibly Kongolo), Vlaar is getting older and slower but would be OK for a couple of seasons. Goalscorer:- Bony (or beat Sunderland to Fabio Borini or Salomon Kalou), or Samuel E'to'o for a season as he is a free agent. I would also love to see us sign Jordy Classie as well. We need more quality if we added these four players we will be better than last season. They are all in our price range so no reason not to get them in this week. Come on Les keep at it, Saturday showed that we need this extra quality. COYR&WS[/p][/quote]Luckily, Saints aren't playing Football Manager 2014, this is the real world. If we sign Townsend we won't have much left in the transfer kitty. If we sign Redmond or someone of similar value we'll probably have enough to sign 2 players.[/p][/quote]Are you. Kidding? We were promised 30 million before we sold any players. We spent 45 million. We took in 90 million. Do the math. There is a ton of money left.[/p][/quote]I don't think there is - follow your own advice and do the beancounting - it's been done to death on here so I'm not going to help you - do it yourself. jls217
  • Score: 0

6:15pm Mon 25 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Shareholder wrote:
Spurs today rejected our new bid of £12m yesterday so that should be the end of that one - I don't think he's even worth that much. Better to offer £6-7m for Remond in my view - he seems to have a broader range to his game.
Redmond's not as fond of physios as Townsend seems to be either.
[quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Spurs today rejected our new bid of £12m yesterday so that should be the end of that one - I don't think he's even worth that much. Better to offer £6-7m for Remond in my view - he seems to have a broader range to his game.[/p][/quote]Redmond's not as fond of physios as Townsend seems to be either. jls217
  • Score: 2

6:19pm Mon 25 Aug 14

jls217 says...

allyuk wrote:
Put a bid in for Lambert then get him back! :)
A season on loan would do very nicely thank you vicar!

Out brassing a scouser - now that's gentlemen is class.
[quote][p][bold]allyuk[/bold] wrote: Put a bid in for Lambert then get him back! :)[/p][/quote]A season on loan would do very nicely thank you vicar! Out brassing a scouser - now that's gentlemen is class. jls217
  • Score: 2

6:28pm Mon 25 Aug 14

mickey01 says...

jls217 wrote:
allyuk wrote:
Put a bid in for Lambert then get him back! :)
A season on loan would do very nicely thank you vicar!

Out brassing a scouser - now that's gentlemen is class.
How many of those ex saints players are playing at this moment 1 i think for arsenal (what a shame)
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allyuk[/bold] wrote: Put a bid in for Lambert then get him back! :)[/p][/quote]A season on loan would do very nicely thank you vicar! Out brassing a scouser - now that's gentlemen is class.[/p][/quote]How many of those ex saints players are playing at this moment 1 i think for arsenal (what a shame) mickey01
  • Score: 1

6:39pm Mon 25 Aug 14

Shrewdsaint says...

Just had a look at Saints rumours on the net - Toby Alderweireld seems to be the latest, CB at Athletico, and they reckon Saints'll bid 6.5 for Redmond. Both good player IMO.
Just had a look at Saints rumours on the net - Toby Alderweireld seems to be the latest, CB at Athletico, and they reckon Saints'll bid 6.5 for Redmond. Both good player IMO. Shrewdsaint
  • Score: 1

6:55pm Mon 25 Aug 14

SpanishSaint says...

Have to admit that I would prefer Redmond than Townsend he
( Townsend ) was good when he first came on the scene but seems to have lost his way a bit and Redmond is cheaper anyway. I just cannot see Spurs selling to us after the Spider debacle.
Have to admit that I would prefer Redmond than Townsend he ( Townsend ) was good when he first came on the scene but seems to have lost his way a bit and Redmond is cheaper anyway. I just cannot see Spurs selling to us after the Spider debacle. SpanishSaint
  • Score: 2

7:39pm Mon 25 Aug 14

hdfw09 says...

Change of subject: is it just me? Or does seeing Adam Lallana make anyone else sick at their stomach? I'm not happy with all transfers, but am happy about his.
Change of subject: is it just me? Or does seeing Adam Lallana make anyone else sick at their stomach? I'm not happy with all transfers, but am happy about his. hdfw09
  • Score: 2

9:48pm Mon 25 Aug 14

jls217 says...

hdfw09 wrote:
Change of subject: is it just me? Or does seeing Adam Lallana make anyone else sick at their stomach? I'm not happy with all transfers, but am happy about his.
Who????
[quote][p][bold]hdfw09[/bold] wrote: Change of subject: is it just me? Or does seeing Adam Lallana make anyone else sick at their stomach? I'm not happy with all transfers, but am happy about his.[/p][/quote]Who???? jls217
  • Score: 1

7:57am Tue 26 Aug 14

zambucco says...

We don't need to buy a pacy winger we've already got one.
Has anybody seen Sam McQueen play? He needs to be given a chance, I saw him in all the friendlies he played, he's, quick skillful and all he wants to do is beat defenders, get to the byeline and cross the ball, which he did with amazing regularity. Lloyd Isgrove improves with every game he's given too.
We do need one more CB but only one as Jack Stevens is ready to step up. All the stories about Matt Targett are true, he will be better than Luke Shaw and could probably play CB as well.
Ronal Koeman needs to start using the youngsters, it's one of the big reasons we were told why he was brought in.
We don't need to buy a pacy winger we've already got one. Has anybody seen Sam McQueen play? He needs to be given a chance, I saw him in all the friendlies he played, he's, quick skillful and all he wants to do is beat defenders, get to the byeline and cross the ball, which he did with amazing regularity. Lloyd Isgrove improves with every game he's given too. We do need one more CB but only one as Jack Stevens is ready to step up. All the stories about Matt Targett are true, he will be better than Luke Shaw and could probably play CB as well. Ronal Koeman needs to start using the youngsters, it's one of the big reasons we were told why he was brought in. zambucco
  • Score: 0

10:51am Tue 26 Aug 14

lowe esteem says...

Lot of Dream Teamers about again.
With many already deciding on the strength of one or two games, that we still need a goalscorer, we have to trust RK to unlock the formula from within, and the correct signing are not immediately obvious to most of us mere mortals.
What is evident though, and still somewhat unexplained or justified, is that we thought the 'Price was Right' too many times in close season, and, if some didn't get it then, the 'value' of the mutineers within the team (or any team!) is not just what someone else is willing to pay. FFS, we're doing it again (with Boruc), this time we just have to trust that it's Rk's doing, and not our magnificent 'Product Sales Team'!
Lot of Dream Teamers about again. With many already deciding on the strength of one or two games, that we still need a [proven] goalscorer, we have to trust RK to unlock the formula from within, and the correct signing[s] are not immediately obvious to most of us mere mortals. What is evident though, and still somewhat unexplained or justified, is that we thought the 'Price was Right' too many times in close season, and, if some didn't get it then, the 'value' of the mutineers within the team (or any team!) is not just what someone else is willing to pay. FFS, we're doing it again (with Boruc), this time we just have to trust that it's Rk's doing, and not our magnificent 'Product Sales Team'! lowe esteem
  • Score: 0
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