Schneiderlin is a 'key player' for Ron

Morgan Schneiderlin

Morgan Schneiderlin

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Ronald Koeman has backed Morgan Schneiderlin to be a key player for his side this season after bringing him into the team to face Liverpool.

The French midfielder was keen to join some of his former teammates in getting out of St Mary’s this summer and was even left out of the starting line-up for the final pre-season friendly against Bayer Leverkusen as a result.

However, Schneiderlin has accepted Saints’ decision that he will not be sold and returned to training last week.

Despite an extended break due to his World Cup exploits with France and not having played a single minute in pre-season, Koeman opted to throw Schneiderlin straight into the team at Anfield and believes the 24-year-old will be a vital player in the weeks and months ahead.

“I think it was good for him,” said Koeman.

“You saw it in the last ten minutes that he was tired because it was his first match.

“The competition was starting today, yesterday for the rest, and he’s a player of Southampton.

“He will continue playing for Southampton.

“He changed his mind, he changed his mentality and he showed us that last week and he’s a key player.

“He showed his qualities. He’s a strong and good football player.

“He’s very important for our team and it’s normal for me to put him in the line-up.”

It was very much a new-look Saints side that started at Anfield after all the changes of the summer.

Koeman also had to tinker with his tactics during the game and did so to good effect as Saints became far more effective in the second period.

“We had a lot of changes in the team in pre-season, but we had a good pre-season because we worked hard to our way of playing and how we did the high pressing in the second half was a little bit different to the first half,” said Koeman.

“I think in the first half we lost a lot bit of attention in transition to the attack of Liverpool and they got two chances like that, and one was the goal. It wasn’t good defensive organisation for that moment.

“We didn’t create the opportunities that we did in the second half but in total we played well and we deserved a better result and that gives us a lot of confidence.”

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8:11am Mon 18 Aug 14

Hobson82 says...

Although he played ok yesterday I still think a 100% fully commited Morgan Schneiderlin would have taken the ball and the player on the lead up to the first goal.
Although he played ok yesterday I still think a 100% fully commited Morgan Schneiderlin would have taken the ball and the player on the lead up to the first goal. Hobson82
  • Score: 22

8:14am Mon 18 Aug 14

LeTissLegend says...

So many positives, Tadic and Clyne interplay, JWP wicked set piece delivery, Schneiderlin and Wanyama patrolling midfield. Let's take this into next Saturday's match - COYR!
So many positives, Tadic and Clyne interplay, JWP wicked set piece delivery, Schneiderlin and Wanyama patrolling midfield. Let's take this into next Saturday's match - COYR! LeTissLegend
  • Score: 39

8:21am Mon 18 Aug 14

swesaint says...

Hobson82 wrote:
Although he played ok yesterday I still think a 100% fully commited Morgan Schneiderlin would have taken the ball and the player on the lead up to the first goal.
He did cover more ground than any other player on the pitch so I dont think commitment was a big issue
[quote][p][bold]Hobson82[/bold] wrote: Although he played ok yesterday I still think a 100% fully commited Morgan Schneiderlin would have taken the ball and the player on the lead up to the first goal.[/p][/quote]He did cover more ground than any other player on the pitch so I dont think commitment was a big issue swesaint
  • Score: 42

8:34am Mon 18 Aug 14

milton road says...

Why did Koeman only say 'Hope so' in an interview after the game when questioned about Morgan staying. Amid paper talk of another bid from Spurs and Arsenal joining in? Where was the 'Not for sale' reply. Which only made me wonder if the rumors are true that he has been told if the price reaches a certain sum he can talk to clubs in return for him settling down and playing. I truly hope this is not the case., but who can tell with this board.
Didn't help with the commentators on the live stream telling clubs to come in for Wanyama. That is what happens when you sell your soul you get a name for letting the best go and its hard to stop people seeing you as a selling club when you have a fire sale, which of course the board say it wasn't.
Sorry if that seems a little critical but it is how it looks.
We looked good yesterday, was very proud of the way we played and we are supposed to be in for a Columbia winger who can also cover as right back. This will give us more width but also make us more exposed in the middle, because it means losing either Davis or WP from midfield and if we go with two strikers both.
Thought Tadic had a good first Premiership game and if we had a Sterling or Sturridge we would of won at a canter. He played some very good balls after taking a while to settle. Or maybe dare i say it a fit Rodriguez, that is what really made it exciting yesterday, you could see the potential there with Jay playing.
Pleased to see the way we played in the second half.
Personally I would of prefered Buroc in goal and thought it should of been Forster that should prove his worth not one of last season's top premier keepers. Buroc has good agility and reflexes, and may well of cut out at least one of Liverpool's goals. Not saying Forster is not a good and commanding keeper, just feel Buroc has been treated a little badly.
Anyway we played well after the first half an hour or so.
Lovren looked stressed there at times and he was turned by Clyne for the first goal I think.
Hopefully we keep everyone and go into the next game and we keep everyone and have the confidence to know we are as good as anyone. There will be very few teams that shut down Liverpool's midfield like we did,
Why did Koeman only say 'Hope so' in an interview after the game when questioned about Morgan staying. Amid paper talk of another bid from Spurs and Arsenal joining in? Where was the 'Not for sale' reply. Which only made me wonder if the rumors are true that he has been told if the price reaches a certain sum he can talk to clubs in return for him settling down and playing. I truly hope this is not the case., but who can tell with this board. Didn't help with the commentators on the live stream telling clubs to come in for Wanyama. That is what happens when you sell your soul you get a name for letting the best go and its hard to stop people seeing you as a selling club when you have a fire sale, which of course the board say it wasn't. Sorry if that seems a little critical but it is how it looks. We looked good yesterday, was very proud of the way we played and we are supposed to be in for a Columbia winger who can also cover as right back. This will give us more width but also make us more exposed in the middle, because it means losing either Davis or WP from midfield and if we go with two strikers both. Thought Tadic had a good first Premiership game and if we had a Sterling or Sturridge we would of won at a canter. He played some very good balls after taking a while to settle. Or maybe dare i say it a fit Rodriguez, that is what really made it exciting yesterday, you could see the potential there with Jay playing. Pleased to see the way we played in the second half. Personally I would of prefered Buroc in goal and thought it should of been Forster that should prove his worth not one of last season's top premier keepers. Buroc has good agility and reflexes, and may well of cut out at least one of Liverpool's goals. Not saying Forster is not a good and commanding keeper, just feel Buroc has been treated a little badly. Anyway we played well after the first half an hour or so. Lovren looked stressed there at times and he was turned by Clyne for the first goal I think. Hopefully we keep everyone and go into the next game and we keep everyone and have the confidence to know we are as good as anyone. There will be very few teams that shut down Liverpool's midfield like we did, milton road
  • Score: -22

8:40am Mon 18 Aug 14

saintsfan76 says...

So unlucky in having that shot tipped onto the bar towards the end. I think.he had a good game. Promising start for him and many of the Saints team in a match some in the media expected them to lose by a high score.Tadic showed some fine footwork for Clynes goal.
So unlucky in having that shot tipped onto the bar towards the end. I think.he had a good game. Promising start for him and many of the Saints team in a match some in the media expected them to lose by a high score.Tadic showed some fine footwork for Clynes goal. saintsfan76
  • Score: 16

8:41am Mon 18 Aug 14

Norwegian Saint says...

Very proud but still gutted we got nothing from the game. History will show a Liverhampton win but not how blooming lucky they were.
Though Morgan played well but man of the match had to be Tadic (was disappointed he was taken off) but also JWP and Clyne were immense.
Maya was the weak link in defence but if Lov(himself)ron was 20million Fonte must be 30!
FF looks blooming HUGE in goal, I guess Artur threw his teddies and wants a move now.
I watched our goal over and over again and it feels even better where it was Lovren who was made a fool of!
Lets get a good win against the Brummies... they are not the same since Lukaku left 2 seasons ago but can still surprise teams.
COYS!!!
Very proud but still gutted we got nothing from the game. History will show a Liverhampton win but not how blooming lucky they were. Though Morgan played well but man of the match had to be Tadic (was disappointed he was taken off) but also JWP and Clyne were immense. Maya was the weak link in defence but if Lov(himself)ron was 20million Fonte must be 30! FF looks blooming HUGE in goal, I guess Artur threw his teddies and wants a move now. I watched our goal over and over again and it feels even better where it was Lovren who was made a fool of! Lets get a good win against the Brummies... they are not the same since Lukaku left 2 seasons ago but can still surprise teams. COYS!!! Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 19

8:43am Mon 18 Aug 14

Alicesdad says...

I like them all, even before I saw them I liked them all, you hate them compared to how much i like them all.
I like them all, even before I saw them I liked them all, you hate them compared to how much i like them all. Alicesdad
  • Score: 6

9:10am Mon 18 Aug 14

Rooflas says...

I wouldn't be surprised if he left in this window. They've obviously agreed that he will give us a season then be gone, clubs are probably trying to prize him away on the cheap.
He is a classy player reminiscent of a young Steve Williams who also made us tick in the early 80's.
I wouldn't be surprised if he left in this window. They've obviously agreed that he will give us a season then be gone, clubs are probably trying to prize him away on the cheap. He is a classy player reminiscent of a young Steve Williams who also made us tick in the early 80's. Rooflas
  • Score: 3

9:11am Mon 18 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Murphy on MoD says Scouse need a player like Spider!
Murphy on MoD says Scouse need a player like Spider! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 3

9:20am Mon 18 Aug 14

damoose says...

Good performance had them crapping themselves in 2nd half,it proves it dosent matter how many of our players they tap up or how much money they spend,we still silence Anfield.my only gripe is if Yoshida had charged the ball after Wanyama had headed it up,watch Yoshida just hesitate for their 2nd goal...and for their 1st he was out of position..need Gardos to get fit asap
Good performance had them crapping themselves in 2nd half,it proves it dosent matter how many of our players they tap up or how much money they spend,we still silence Anfield.my only gripe is if Yoshida had charged the ball after Wanyama had headed it up,watch Yoshida just hesitate for their 2nd goal...and for their 1st he was out of position..need Gardos to get fit asap damoose
  • Score: 24

9:31am Mon 18 Aug 14

Stokesofdublin says...

Very encouraging performance - especially good to see that the new players have gelled already. Wasn't expecting that. But there are still problems.
It's disappointing to hear that we are not looking for another CB when we remain frail in depth in that position. Many teams (including teams weaker that The Reds) will exploit this.

Also, our three best chances fell to midfielders (except the fantastic goal, scored by a full back). Need more 'clinical' edge to the attack. JWP did great, but needs to be more decisive when shooting chances present.

But this isn't a whinge. Very well done to all.
Very encouraging performance - especially good to see that the new players have gelled already. Wasn't expecting that. But there are still problems. It's disappointing to hear that we are not looking for another CB when we remain frail in depth in that position. Many teams (including teams weaker that The Reds) will exploit this. Also, our three best chances fell to midfielders (except the fantastic goal, scored by a full back). Need more 'clinical' edge to the attack. JWP did great, but needs to be more decisive when shooting chances present. But this isn't a whinge. Very well done to all. Stokesofdublin
  • Score: -4

9:34am Mon 18 Aug 14

Jesus_02 says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
Very proud but still gutted we got nothing from the game. History will show a Liverhampton win but not how blooming lucky they were.
Though Morgan played well but man of the match had to be Tadic (was disappointed he was taken off) but also JWP and Clyne were immense.
Maya was the weak link in defence but if Lov(himself)ron was 20million Fonte must be 30!
FF looks blooming HUGE in goal, I guess Artur threw his teddies and wants a move now.
I watched our goal over and over again and it feels even better where it was Lovren who was made a fool of!
Lets get a good win against the Brummies... they are not the same since Lukaku left 2 seasons ago but can still surprise teams.
COYS!!!
Cant Help but think Boruc would have had a better chance of saving the 1st one. He was always gettting us out of holes like that.

If he goes we will need another backup for sure
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: Very proud but still gutted we got nothing from the game. History will show a Liverhampton win but not how blooming lucky they were. Though Morgan played well but man of the match had to be Tadic (was disappointed he was taken off) but also JWP and Clyne were immense. Maya was the weak link in defence but if Lov(himself)ron was 20million Fonte must be 30! FF looks blooming HUGE in goal, I guess Artur threw his teddies and wants a move now. I watched our goal over and over again and it feels even better where it was Lovren who was made a fool of! Lets get a good win against the Brummies... they are not the same since Lukaku left 2 seasons ago but can still surprise teams. COYS!!![/p][/quote]Cant Help but think Boruc would have had a better chance of saving the 1st one. He was always gettting us out of holes like that. If he goes we will need another backup for sure Jesus_02
  • Score: 0

9:38am Mon 18 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

Is Yoshida the new Guly? He seems to be the new whipping boy. From what I saw I don't think he deserves more criticism than the other players.
Is Yoshida the new Guly? He seems to be the new whipping boy. From what I saw I don't think he deserves more criticism than the other players. Rising_Son
  • Score: 33

9:40am Mon 18 Aug 14

Betty D. Pruett says...

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  • Score: -30

9:43am Mon 18 Aug 14

GHamilton says...

I would have liked to have seen his reaction to our goal, was he, 'over the moon about it ' ....or was it a subdued response?. I'm one of those who believes that the number one attribute or quality a player must have, is a deep down desire to want to play for this club. With Morgan I have to say I'm not so sure. If some of the media speculation is true, Spurs are to test our board again with another improved offer before Sept 1, depite being told emphaticaly he not for sale. What I,m saying is.....how do you go from being mad about not being sold and publicly showing frustration with the club, to OK then youre right, bit silly of me that was, I realy want to stay, and am fully commited to the cub.

If Schneiderlin was to leave in January, we dont want to be running around looking for a replacement as we've already got one. Jack Cork . I feel sorry for this lad, as I genuinly think he is good enough be in the team, and wants to be at SouthmptonFC.

Lastly on yesterdays game, I was a bit dissapointed to see Tadic being subbed, as I thought he was real class....think we have a real Lallana beater here, great signing. Maybe Koeman wanted to get him off the pitch before Rogers made a bid for him!. His replacement Long did some good work and showed some nice skills out wide; however he should n't be missing the target from 5 yards. we'll put it down to first day nerves. hope Koeman can do something with him on the training ground, if not, I think a lot of peoples worst fears on this forum will be realised. Shame about the Davis chance, realy needed to be dinking that with his left foot to the far post, but alas he right footed, other wise had a very good game. As stated on here yesterday ....lots of positives to take, if this is what their capable of in their first game, very exiciting times ahead me thinks!. Last but not least, got to love the Saints fans serenading the Liverpool fans with 'When the Saints......go marchin in....oh when the Saints go marchin in ......I wanna be in that number... oh when the Saints go marchin in!!! BLISS.
I would have liked to have seen his reaction to our goal, was he, 'over the moon about it ' ....or was it a subdued response?. I'm one of those who believes that the number one attribute or quality a player must have, is a deep down desire to want to play for this club. With Morgan I have to say I'm not so sure. If some of the media speculation is true, Spurs are to test our board again with another improved offer before Sept 1, depite being told emphaticaly he not for sale. What I,m saying is.....how do you go from being mad about not being sold and publicly showing frustration with the club, to OK then youre right, bit silly of me that was, I realy want to stay, and am fully commited to the cub. If Schneiderlin was to leave in January, we dont want to be running around looking for a replacement as we've already got one. Jack Cork . I feel sorry for this lad, as I genuinly think he is good enough be in the team, and wants to be at SouthmptonFC. Lastly on yesterdays game, I was a bit dissapointed to see Tadic being subbed, as I thought he was real class....think we have a real Lallana beater here, great signing. Maybe Koeman wanted to get him off the pitch before Rogers made a bid for him!. His replacement Long did some good work and showed some nice skills out wide; however he should n't be missing the target from 5 yards. we'll put it down to first day nerves. hope Koeman can do something with him on the training ground, if not, I think a lot of peoples worst fears on this forum will be realised. Shame about the Davis chance, realy needed to be dinking that with his left foot to the far post, but alas he right footed, other wise had a very good game. As stated on here yesterday ....lots of positives to take, if this is what their capable of in their first game, very exiciting times ahead me thinks!. Last but not least, got to love the Saints fans serenading the Liverpool fans with 'When the Saints......go marchin in....oh when the Saints go marchin in ......I wanna be in that number... oh when the Saints go marchin in!!! BLISS. GHamilton
  • Score: 11

9:45am Mon 18 Aug 14

jls217 says...

swesaint wrote:
Hobson82 wrote:
Although he played ok yesterday I still think a 100% fully commited Morgan Schneiderlin would have taken the ball and the player on the lead up to the first goal.
He did cover more ground than any other player on the pitch so I dont think commitment was a big issue
It could be argued he's a little ring rusty but he's far too professional to give less than his best efforts.
[quote][p][bold]swesaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hobson82[/bold] wrote: Although he played ok yesterday I still think a 100% fully commited Morgan Schneiderlin would have taken the ball and the player on the lead up to the first goal.[/p][/quote]He did cover more ground than any other player on the pitch so I dont think commitment was a big issue[/p][/quote]It could be argued he's a little ring rusty but he's far too professional to give less than his best efforts. jls217
  • Score: 14

9:46am Mon 18 Aug 14

swesaint says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
Norwegian Saint wrote:
Very proud but still gutted we got nothing from the game. History will show a Liverhampton win but not how blooming lucky they were.
Though Morgan played well but man of the match had to be Tadic (was disappointed he was taken off) but also JWP and Clyne were immense.
Maya was the weak link in defence but if Lov(himself)ron was 20million Fonte must be 30!
FF looks blooming HUGE in goal, I guess Artur threw his teddies and wants a move now.
I watched our goal over and over again and it feels even better where it was Lovren who was made a fool of!
Lets get a good win against the Brummies... they are not the same since Lukaku left 2 seasons ago but can still surprise teams.
COYS!!!
Cant Help but think Boruc would have had a better chance of saving the 1st one. He was always gettting us out of holes like that.

If he goes we will need another backup for sure
Or he would have tried a few dribbles and lost the ball for a goal....would have...could have
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: Very proud but still gutted we got nothing from the game. History will show a Liverhampton win but not how blooming lucky they were. Though Morgan played well but man of the match had to be Tadic (was disappointed he was taken off) but also JWP and Clyne were immense. Maya was the weak link in defence but if Lov(himself)ron was 20million Fonte must be 30! FF looks blooming HUGE in goal, I guess Artur threw his teddies and wants a move now. I watched our goal over and over again and it feels even better where it was Lovren who was made a fool of! Lets get a good win against the Brummies... they are not the same since Lukaku left 2 seasons ago but can still surprise teams. COYS!!![/p][/quote]Cant Help but think Boruc would have had a better chance of saving the 1st one. He was always gettting us out of holes like that. If he goes we will need another backup for sure[/p][/quote]Or he would have tried a few dribbles and lost the ball for a goal....would have...could have swesaint
  • Score: 3

9:51am Mon 18 Aug 14

jls217 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Murphy on MoD says Scouse need a player like Spider!
Morgan is THE player around which our squad should be built - been saying it for the last two seasons now.
Still no guarantee he wants to stay of course and guess Ron's wording reflects that if the right offer comes in at the right time Spyder could still be leaving but it wouldn't be his decision to make.
If Spyder stays he has to be made to feel loved up and his ego stroked a bit but he would repay that in buckets. This man is special - It wasn't Liarllana who made this club tick it was Spyder and we need to get him back in the love nest asap.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Murphy on MoD says Scouse need a player like Spider![/p][/quote]Morgan is THE player around which our squad should be built - been saying it for the last two seasons now. Still no guarantee he wants to stay of course and guess Ron's wording reflects that if the right offer comes in at the right time Spyder could still be leaving but it wouldn't be his decision to make. If Spyder stays he has to be made to feel loved up and his ego stroked a bit but he would repay that in buckets. This man is special - It wasn't Liarllana who made this club tick it was Spyder and we need to get him back in the love nest asap. jls217
  • Score: 16

9:57am Mon 18 Aug 14

jls217 says...

http://www.footballf
ancast.com/football-
news/southampton-to-
make-eighth-summer-s
igning-with-8m-bid-f
or-lazio-star?

This fella could do Corkies job as he plays in the same positions. Is Cork on his way to Wales?

Anyone know anything about him? he's been around for a long while and is clearly not a mug.
http://www.footballf ancast.com/football- news/southampton-to- make-eighth-summer-s igning-with-8m-bid-f or-lazio-star? This fella could do Corkies job as he plays in the same positions. Is Cork on his way to Wales? Anyone know anything about him? he's been around for a long while and is clearly not a mug. jls217
  • Score: 3

9:58am Mon 18 Aug 14

Folkestone Saint says...

You can always tell how good the away team is based on the "noise" from the home crowd, having said that divingpool have been the quietest home and away for a while now, all you could hear yesterday was the Saints fans singing and I salute you all, as for the "cop roar" do me a favour, if they aint moaning they aint making a sound, miserable b@stards
You can always tell how good the away team is based on the "noise" from the home crowd, having said that divingpool have been the quietest home and away for a while now, all you could hear yesterday was the Saints fans singing and I salute you all, as for the "cop roar" do me a favour, if they aint moaning they aint making a sound, miserable b@stards Folkestone Saint
  • Score: 31

10:01am Mon 18 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Today Sunday Express reveal new voices on the future of Jonathan Biabiany, who seems farther and farther away from Parma. In fact, according to a report in the tabloid on the French even Southampton are interested in the player and Parma have supposedly asked for £ 6 million.

Source: fcinternews.it

The gossips keep coming back to this youngster - he's one of the fastest in football and apparantly sometimes even takes the ball with him which is usually a good idea.
Today Sunday Express reveal new voices on the future of Jonathan Biabiany, who seems farther and farther away from Parma. In fact, according to a report in the tabloid on the French even Southampton are interested in the player and Parma have supposedly asked for £ 6 million. Source: fcinternews.it The gossips keep coming back to this youngster - he's one of the fastest in football and apparantly sometimes even takes the ball with him which is usually a good idea. jls217
  • Score: 6

10:18am Mon 18 Aug 14

GHamilton says...

Your right Jls217 this guy was mentioned on Football365 last week, evidently Blindingly ,ah say Blindingly fast; question is if he's that good why would Parma wat to sell him.....just a thought
Your right Jls217 this guy was mentioned on Football365 last week, evidently Blindingly ,ah say Blindingly fast; question is if he's that good why would Parma wat to sell him.....just a thought GHamilton
  • Score: 3

10:25am Mon 18 Aug 14

yellowcard says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
Very proud but still gutted we got nothing from the game. History will show a Liverhampton win but not how blooming lucky they were.
Though Morgan played well but man of the match had to be Tadic (was disappointed he was taken off) but also JWP and Clyne were immense.
Maya was the weak link in defence but if Lov(himself)ron was 20million Fonte must be 30!
FF looks blooming HUGE in goal, I guess Artur threw his teddies and wants a move now.
I watched our goal over and over again and it feels even better where it was Lovren who was made a fool of!
Lets get a good win against the Brummies... they are not the same since Lukaku left 2 seasons ago but can still surprise teams.
COYS!!!
You say yoshida was the weak link i think he did ok considering he was up against sterling and sturigde. Clyne played good but he was at fault for both the Liverpool goals. People are forgetting that yoshida has not had much game time to gel with the team
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: Very proud but still gutted we got nothing from the game. History will show a Liverhampton win but not how blooming lucky they were. Though Morgan played well but man of the match had to be Tadic (was disappointed he was taken off) but also JWP and Clyne were immense. Maya was the weak link in defence but if Lov(himself)ron was 20million Fonte must be 30! FF looks blooming HUGE in goal, I guess Artur threw his teddies and wants a move now. I watched our goal over and over again and it feels even better where it was Lovren who was made a fool of! Lets get a good win against the Brummies... they are not the same since Lukaku left 2 seasons ago but can still surprise teams. COYS!!![/p][/quote]You say yoshida was the weak link i think he did ok considering he was up against sterling and sturigde. Clyne played good but he was at fault for both the Liverpool goals. People are forgetting that yoshida has not had much game time to gel with the team yellowcard
  • Score: 9

10:36am Mon 18 Aug 14

yellowcard says...

damoose wrote:
Good performance had them crapping themselves in 2nd half,it proves it dosent matter how many of our players they tap up or how much money they spend,we still silence Anfield.my only gripe is if Yoshida had charged the ball after Wanyama had headed it up,watch Yoshida just hesitate for their 2nd goal...and for their 1st he was out of position..need Gardos to get fit asap
I think you will find it was clyne who should of been covering sterling and was caught out half way up the pitch even the commentators said so. Also it was clyne who was on sturidge for the second goal.
[quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: Good performance had them crapping themselves in 2nd half,it proves it dosent matter how many of our players they tap up or how much money they spend,we still silence Anfield.my only gripe is if Yoshida had charged the ball after Wanyama had headed it up,watch Yoshida just hesitate for their 2nd goal...and for their 1st he was out of position..need Gardos to get fit asap[/p][/quote]I think you will find it was clyne who should of been covering sterling and was caught out half way up the pitch even the commentators said so. Also it was clyne who was on sturidge for the second goal. yellowcard
  • Score: 8

10:58am Mon 18 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

Sometimes I think the left and right backs in the modern game can get a bit obsessed about going forward. Clyne's a good player but I noticed he was caught out like that when Henderson sliced that pass through to Sterling.
Sometimes I think the left and right backs in the modern game can get a bit obsessed about going forward. Clyne's a good player but I noticed he was caught out like that when Henderson sliced that pass through to Sterling. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 3

10:59am Mon 18 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

yellowcard wrote:
damoose wrote:
Good performance had them crapping themselves in 2nd half,it proves it dosent matter how many of our players they tap up or how much money they spend,we still silence Anfield.my only gripe is if Yoshida had charged the ball after Wanyama had headed it up,watch Yoshida just hesitate for their 2nd goal...and for their 1st he was out of position..need Gardos to get fit asap
I think you will find it was clyne who should of been covering sterling and was caught out half way up the pitch even the commentators said so. Also it was clyne who was on sturidge for the second goal.
I think if you watch it again you will find Spyder is closest after Vic heads it on the second goal, but just stands there.
[quote][p][bold]yellowcard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: Good performance had them crapping themselves in 2nd half,it proves it dosent matter how many of our players they tap up or how much money they spend,we still silence Anfield.my only gripe is if Yoshida had charged the ball after Wanyama had headed it up,watch Yoshida just hesitate for their 2nd goal...and for their 1st he was out of position..need Gardos to get fit asap[/p][/quote]I think you will find it was clyne who should of been covering sterling and was caught out half way up the pitch even the commentators said so. Also it was clyne who was on sturidge for the second goal.[/p][/quote]I think if you watch it again you will find Spyder is closest after Vic heads it on the second goal, but just stands there. fascia123
  • Score: 2

11:03am Mon 18 Aug 14

Velleity says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Is Yoshida the new Guly? He seems to be the new whipping boy. From what I saw I don't think he deserves more criticism than the other players.
Yep; I blame Yoshida
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: Is Yoshida the new Guly? He seems to be the new whipping boy. From what I saw I don't think he deserves more criticism than the other players.[/p][/quote]Yep; I blame Yoshida Velleity
  • Score: -7

11:04am Mon 18 Aug 14

Velleity says...

Velleity wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Is Yoshida the new Guly? He seems to be the new whipping boy. From what I saw I don't think he deserves more criticism than the other players.
Yep; I blame Yoshida
Though Guly has to take some share of the blame, of course.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: Is Yoshida the new Guly? He seems to be the new whipping boy. From what I saw I don't think he deserves more criticism than the other players.[/p][/quote]Yep; I blame Yoshida[/p][/quote]Though Guly has to take some share of the blame, of course. Velleity
  • Score: 19

11:15am Mon 18 Aug 14

IOAD says...

swesaint wrote:
Hobson82 wrote:
Although he played ok yesterday I still think a 100% fully commited Morgan Schneiderlin would have taken the ball and the player on the lead up to the first goal.
He did cover more ground than any other player on the pitch so I dont think commitment was a big issue
He covered more ground than any player in the Premiership this weekend, over 7 miles, I understand.
[quote][p][bold]swesaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hobson82[/bold] wrote: Although he played ok yesterday I still think a 100% fully commited Morgan Schneiderlin would have taken the ball and the player on the lead up to the first goal.[/p][/quote]He did cover more ground than any other player on the pitch so I dont think commitment was a big issue[/p][/quote]He covered more ground than any player in the Premiership this weekend, over 7 miles, I understand. IOAD
  • Score: 4

11:19am Mon 18 Aug 14

Shareholder says...

I was at Anfield yesterday and I particularly watched Schneiderlin to see how he reacted after all the affairs of the summer. As I said in a post after the game I didn't think he was quite on it yesterday. He didn't get as involved as he had in the past and his link up play wasn't the same. He should have had more influence on the game especially in the second half. We have to hope that he will finally clear his mind and get back to normal. For me he has a way to go yet. I don't think he'll settle back to his usual performance until the Window shuts. He also needs to learn from yesterday's performance that just because his mates have gone doesn't mean he's now playing for a club with no ambition and that can't compete. He has to see we were playing against one of the favourites for the title yesterday so to have just missed out on a point and in fact possibly three should be telling him he's onto a good thing still at Southampton. The rest is up to him. He played well yesterday but we all know he could and should have done better. I for one think he will once we get past Sept 1st. Koeman is doing all he can to convince Schneiderlin and rightly so, get Morgan on song and this team can go places.
I was at Anfield yesterday and I particularly watched Schneiderlin to see how he reacted after all the affairs of the summer. As I said in a post after the game I didn't think he was quite on it yesterday. He didn't get as involved as he had in the past and his link up play wasn't the same. He should have had more influence on the game especially in the second half. We have to hope that he will finally clear his mind and get back to normal. For me he has a way to go yet. I don't think he'll settle back to his usual performance until the Window shuts. He also needs to learn from yesterday's performance that just because his mates have gone doesn't mean he's now playing for a club with no ambition and that can't compete. He has to see we were playing against one of the favourites for the title yesterday so to have just missed out on a point and in fact possibly three should be telling him he's onto a good thing still at Southampton. The rest is up to him. He played well yesterday but we all know he could and should have done better. I for one think he will once we get past Sept 1st. Koeman is doing all he can to convince Schneiderlin and rightly so, get Morgan on song and this team can go places. Shareholder
  • Score: 3

11:33am Mon 18 Aug 14

Chapperall says...

Considering the situation with Morgan I think he had a good game not quite so influential as usual but probably to be expected. However JWP, Clyne and Wanyama played out of their skins. I think overall it was a good team performance but continue to be worried with the CB positions.
We certainly had them worried and they were really lucky to win. Yet what do we see in the papers how great it was to see Sturridge scoring and they don't miss Suarez. They must have been watching a different game to me. As we deserved at least a draw or even a win. The 2nd half they were not in the game.
Still we now have our first home match on Saturday and we need 3 points from WBA.
Considering the situation with Morgan I think he had a good game not quite so influential as usual but probably to be expected. However JWP, Clyne and Wanyama played out of their skins. I think overall it was a good team performance but continue to be worried with the CB positions. We certainly had them worried and they were really lucky to win. Yet what do we see in the papers how great it was to see Sturridge scoring and they don't miss Suarez. They must have been watching a different game to me. As we deserved at least a draw or even a win. The 2nd half they were not in the game. Still we now have our first home match on Saturday and we need 3 points from WBA. Chapperall
  • Score: 6

11:37am Mon 18 Aug 14

st.athan saint says...

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
Sometimes I think the left and right backs in the modern game can get a bit obsessed about going forward. Clyne's a good player but I noticed he was caught out like that when Henderson sliced that pass through to Sterling.
Ball watching for both goals
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: Sometimes I think the left and right backs in the modern game can get a bit obsessed about going forward. Clyne's a good player but I noticed he was caught out like that when Henderson sliced that pass through to Sterling.[/p][/quote]Ball watching for both goals st.athan saint
  • Score: 1

11:39am Mon 18 Aug 14

This is Southampton and we are the Saints says...

Hearing now Swansea are in for jack cork can't sell him he's a top player and if he's is sold how long before he's best mate jay Rodriguez would follow????? Give jack a new contract far to good a player to let go!
Hearing now Swansea are in for jack cork can't sell him he's a top player and if he's is sold how long before he's best mate jay Rodriguez would follow????? Give jack a new contract far to good a player to let go! This is Southampton and we are the Saints
  • Score: 6

11:42am Mon 18 Aug 14

spratt says...

Excellent result and things bode well for another good season. However still lacking that threat up front. Pelle hasn't shown that much as yet but hopefully will come good. Still need another top quality striker which is what won the game for Liverpool. Best signing of the year thus far is Ron. Long may he reign. As for Spider just hopes he stays.
Excellent result and things bode well for another good season. However still lacking that threat up front. Pelle hasn't shown that much as yet but hopefully will come good. Still need another top quality striker which is what won the game for Liverpool. Best signing of the year thus far is Ron. Long may he reign. As for Spider just hopes he stays. spratt
  • Score: 4

11:48am Mon 18 Aug 14

This is Southampton and we are the Saints says...

Chapperall wrote:
Considering the situation with Morgan I think he had a good game not quite so influential as usual but probably to be expected. However JWP, Clyne and Wanyama played out of their skins. I think overall it was a good team performance but continue to be worried with the CB positions.
We certainly had them worried and they were really lucky to win. Yet what do we see in the papers how great it was to see Sturridge scoring and they don't miss Suarez. They must have been watching a different game to me. As we deserved at least a draw or even a win. The 2nd half they were not in the game.
Still we now have our first home match on Saturday and we need 3 points from WBA.
Morgan had a great game but did seem a times to be just going though the motions! Did any other posters also noticed this?
Great performance from the team deserved a lot more from the game!
Liverhampton Finnished second last season a there was nothing between the two teams think we could shock a lot of people this season and push for Europe?
[quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: Considering the situation with Morgan I think he had a good game not quite so influential as usual but probably to be expected. However JWP, Clyne and Wanyama played out of their skins. I think overall it was a good team performance but continue to be worried with the CB positions. We certainly had them worried and they were really lucky to win. Yet what do we see in the papers how great it was to see Sturridge scoring and they don't miss Suarez. They must have been watching a different game to me. As we deserved at least a draw or even a win. The 2nd half they were not in the game. Still we now have our first home match on Saturday and we need 3 points from WBA.[/p][/quote]Morgan had a great game but did seem a times to be just going though the motions! Did any other posters also noticed this? Great performance from the team deserved a lot more from the game! Liverhampton Finnished second last season a there was nothing between the two teams think we could shock a lot of people this season and push for Europe? This is Southampton and we are the Saints
  • Score: 5

11:53am Mon 18 Aug 14

Costa Baz says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Is Yoshida the new Guly? He seems to be the new whipping boy. From what I saw I don't think he deserves more criticism than the other players.
Would have to agree with you.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: Is Yoshida the new Guly? He seems to be the new whipping boy. From what I saw I don't think he deserves more criticism than the other players.[/p][/quote]Would have to agree with you. Costa Baz
  • Score: 5

11:57am Mon 18 Aug 14

Alicesdad says...

If Spiderman has truly eaten the humble pie, put the twatter rant behind him and "got his mindset" right then we will move on. We forgave Puncehon.. are we not a benevolent fan base? Looked good on Sunday so well done Morgan.

This team has the potential to be very good indeed and even surpass expectations.

Now we need to absolutley bury West Brom to announce our arrival after the "summer of discontent".

I thought Rons after match interview was world class. Firstly you could see the pride in his team (and it is HIS team) secondly you heard it in clear English, and thirdly he just talked a whole lot of open and honest sense. This man could become the truly special one in English football, not an ego fueled rich boys playground manager, but a truly talented manager of the best club this country has.

I like him, even before ...... oh you know the rest.
If Spiderman has truly eaten the humble pie, put the twatter rant behind him and "got his mindset" right then we will move on. We forgave Puncehon.. are we not a benevolent fan base? Looked good on Sunday so well done Morgan. This team has the potential to be very good indeed and even surpass expectations. Now we need to absolutley bury West Brom to announce our arrival after the "summer of discontent". I thought Rons after match interview was world class. Firstly you could see the pride in his team (and it is HIS team) secondly you heard it in clear English, and thirdly he just talked a whole lot of open and honest sense. This man could become the truly special one in English football, not an ego fueled rich boys playground manager, but a truly talented manager of the best club this country has. I like him, even before ...... oh you know the rest. Alicesdad
  • Score: 21

12:12pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Alicesdad wrote:
If Spiderman has truly eaten the humble pie, put the twatter rant behind him and "got his mindset" right then we will move on. We forgave Puncehon.. are we not a benevolent fan base? Looked good on Sunday so well done Morgan.

This team has the potential to be very good indeed and even surpass expectations.

Now we need to absolutley bury West Brom to announce our arrival after the "summer of discontent".

I thought Rons after match interview was world class. Firstly you could see the pride in his team (and it is HIS team) secondly you heard it in clear English, and thirdly he just talked a whole lot of open and honest sense. This man could become the truly special one in English football, not an ego fueled rich boys playground manager, but a truly talented manager of the best club this country has.

I like him, even before ...... oh you know the rest.
Good post AD, love "the summer of discontent" ,that's a fact! Lol.
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: If Spiderman has truly eaten the humble pie, put the twatter rant behind him and "got his mindset" right then we will move on. We forgave Puncehon.. are we not a benevolent fan base? Looked good on Sunday so well done Morgan. This team has the potential to be very good indeed and even surpass expectations. Now we need to absolutley bury West Brom to announce our arrival after the "summer of discontent". I thought Rons after match interview was world class. Firstly you could see the pride in his team (and it is HIS team) secondly you heard it in clear English, and thirdly he just talked a whole lot of open and honest sense. This man could become the truly special one in English football, not an ego fueled rich boys playground manager, but a truly talented manager of the best club this country has. I like him, even before ...... oh you know the rest.[/p][/quote]Good post AD, love "the summer of discontent" ,that's a fact! Lol. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

12:39pm Mon 18 Aug 14

TGodSFC says...

Rumors are that spuds are coming back in for Spider one last time and if their bid gets rejeted again (which I think it will) then they are going to move on.

Also (not sure how true this is) Swans are going in for Jack Cork.
Rumors are that spuds are coming back in for Spider one last time and if their bid gets rejeted again (which I think it will) then they are going to move on. Also (not sure how true this is) Swans are going in for Jack Cork. TGodSFC
  • Score: 1

12:47pm Mon 18 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Totally agree with Alicesdad. If we don't beat WBA on Saturday the positives we have all seen against liverhampton will quickly turn into more doom and gloom.
A win will indeed announce our arrival and rubber stamp the general consensus that has been aired since that good performance that Saints will be a force to be reckoned with this season and do look to be building something special after the so called summer exodus.
Certain sections of the media will also have to report it as it is and eat large portions of humble pie.
COYR FOADP
Totally agree with Alicesdad. If we don't beat WBA on Saturday the positives we have all seen against liverhampton will quickly turn into more doom and gloom. A win will indeed announce our arrival and rubber stamp the general consensus that has been aired since that good performance that Saints will be a force to be reckoned with this season and do look to be building something special after the so called summer exodus. Certain sections of the media will also have to report it as it is and eat large portions of humble pie. COYR FOADP J7junctionseven
  • Score: 0

12:59pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Muttdogg says...

Schneiderlin definitely looked off the pace towards the end as Ronald says, there were a couple of times when he should have found space but didnt, but fair play as he has missed pre-season, he was very unlucky with the shot that hit the bar. Overall I thinks Saints played well yesterday, I think if Ward-Prowse finds his shooting boots he will become our key-man this year, it took LXXana (cXnt) a while to become a reliable goal-scorer and I think Prowse will do the same.
Schneiderlin definitely looked off the pace towards the end as Ronald says, there were a couple of times when he should have found space but didnt, but fair play as he has missed pre-season, he was very unlucky with the shot that hit the bar. Overall I thinks Saints played well yesterday, I think if Ward-Prowse finds his shooting boots he will become our key-man this year, it took LXXana (cXnt) a while to become a reliable goal-scorer and I think Prowse will do the same. Muttdogg
  • Score: 2

1:13pm Mon 18 Aug 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Morgan proved what a good player he is and we need to keep him, however every player has his price so if a £25m + bid was made then we would sell, but not at the current offers, why should we. What we must not do is sell him before we buy his replacement.

Also Selling Jack Cork for only £3m yet spending £8m on 29yr old Gonzalez from Lazio does not make financial sense. It is not midfielders we need it is a top CB (better than Fonte, Gardos & Yoshida) plus a proven Goalscorer, a fast Winger and cover for Cline that we still need.
Morgan proved what a good player he is and we need to keep him, however every player has his price so if a £25m + bid was made then we would sell, but not at the current offers, why should we. What we must not do is sell him before we buy his replacement. Also Selling Jack Cork for only £3m yet spending £8m on 29yr old Gonzalez from Lazio does not make financial sense. It is not midfielders we need it is a top CB (better than Fonte, Gardos & Yoshida) plus a proven Goalscorer, a fast Winger and cover for Cline that we still need. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 0

1:25pm Mon 18 Aug 14

This is Southampton and we are the Saints says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Totally agree with Alicesdad. If we don't beat WBA on Saturday the positives we have all seen against liverhampton will quickly turn into more doom and gloom.
A win will indeed announce our arrival and rubber stamp the general consensus that has been aired since that good performance that Saints will be a force to be reckoned with this season and do look to be building something special after the so called summer exodus.
Certain sections of the media will also have to report it as it is and eat large portions of humble pie.
COYR FOADP
Need a win if anything just to pee off all the media and pundits that have done there best to distroy are great club because we dare to challenge the top monopoly clubs and know dout there try again next year when we have another great season?
But this time it will be different! This time we have a great manager not a judas with his own agenda!
And with the addition of Europa league football this should be anough to keep all are players happy!!!!
Watch this space!
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Totally agree with Alicesdad. If we don't beat WBA on Saturday the positives we have all seen against liverhampton will quickly turn into more doom and gloom. A win will indeed announce our arrival and rubber stamp the general consensus that has been aired since that good performance that Saints will be a force to be reckoned with this season and do look to be building something special after the so called summer exodus. Certain sections of the media will also have to report it as it is and eat large portions of humble pie. COYR FOADP[/p][/quote]Need a win if anything just to pee off all the media and pundits that have done there best to distroy are great club because we dare to challenge the top monopoly clubs and know dout there try again next year when we have another great season? But this time it will be different! This time we have a great manager not a judas with his own agenda! And with the addition of Europa league football this should be anough to keep all are players happy!!!! Watch this space! This is Southampton and we are the Saints
  • Score: 1

1:26pm Mon 18 Aug 14

elvis says...

Thought we were really good ,Spyder & Santana looked better together yesterday than they did during the whole of last season ,I also thought Spyder looked as commuted as ever.Ron tactically looked very good far better than Judas ever was . So much for us being a sinking ship eh ?
Thought we were really good ,Spyder & Santana looked better together yesterday than they did during the whole of last season ,I also thought Spyder looked as commuted as ever.Ron tactically looked very good far better than Judas ever was . So much for us being a sinking ship eh ? elvis
  • Score: 2

2:34pm Mon 18 Aug 14

BarnetSaint says...

milton road wrote:
Why did Koeman only say 'Hope so' in an interview after the game when questioned about Morgan staying. Amid paper talk of another bid from Spurs and Arsenal joining in? Where was the 'Not for sale' reply. Which only made me wonder if the rumors are true that he has been told if the price reaches a certain sum he can talk to clubs in return for him settling down and playing. I truly hope this is not the case., but who can tell with this board.
Didn't help with the commentators on the live stream telling clubs to come in for Wanyama. That is what happens when you sell your soul you get a name for letting the best go and its hard to stop people seeing you as a selling club when you have a fire sale, which of course the board say it wasn't.
Sorry if that seems a little critical but it is how it looks.
We looked good yesterday, was very proud of the way we played and we are supposed to be in for a Columbia winger who can also cover as right back. This will give us more width but also make us more exposed in the middle, because it means losing either Davis or WP from midfield and if we go with two strikers both.
Thought Tadic had a good first Premiership game and if we had a Sterling or Sturridge we would of won at a canter. He played some very good balls after taking a while to settle. Or maybe dare i say it a fit Rodriguez, that is what really made it exciting yesterday, you could see the potential there with Jay playing.
Pleased to see the way we played in the second half.
Personally I would of prefered Buroc in goal and thought it should of been Forster that should prove his worth not one of last season's top premier keepers. Buroc has good agility and reflexes, and may well of cut out at least one of Liverpool's goals. Not saying Forster is not a good and commanding keeper, just feel Buroc has been treated a little badly.
Anyway we played well after the first half an hour or so.
Lovren looked stressed there at times and he was turned by Clyne for the first goal I think.
Hopefully we keep everyone and go into the next game and we keep everyone and have the confidence to know we are as good as anyone. There will be very few teams that shut down Liverpool's midfield like we did,
Great post and spot on.
Sick of commentators and pundits touting our players all the time.
We have had the fire sale and the board will be judged on how effectively beat off any more vultures sniffing around.
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: Why did Koeman only say 'Hope so' in an interview after the game when questioned about Morgan staying. Amid paper talk of another bid from Spurs and Arsenal joining in? Where was the 'Not for sale' reply. Which only made me wonder if the rumors are true that he has been told if the price reaches a certain sum he can talk to clubs in return for him settling down and playing. I truly hope this is not the case., but who can tell with this board. Didn't help with the commentators on the live stream telling clubs to come in for Wanyama. That is what happens when you sell your soul you get a name for letting the best go and its hard to stop people seeing you as a selling club when you have a fire sale, which of course the board say it wasn't. Sorry if that seems a little critical but it is how it looks. We looked good yesterday, was very proud of the way we played and we are supposed to be in for a Columbia winger who can also cover as right back. This will give us more width but also make us more exposed in the middle, because it means losing either Davis or WP from midfield and if we go with two strikers both. Thought Tadic had a good first Premiership game and if we had a Sterling or Sturridge we would of won at a canter. He played some very good balls after taking a while to settle. Or maybe dare i say it a fit Rodriguez, that is what really made it exciting yesterday, you could see the potential there with Jay playing. Pleased to see the way we played in the second half. Personally I would of prefered Buroc in goal and thought it should of been Forster that should prove his worth not one of last season's top premier keepers. Buroc has good agility and reflexes, and may well of cut out at least one of Liverpool's goals. Not saying Forster is not a good and commanding keeper, just feel Buroc has been treated a little badly. Anyway we played well after the first half an hour or so. Lovren looked stressed there at times and he was turned by Clyne for the first goal I think. Hopefully we keep everyone and go into the next game and we keep everyone and have the confidence to know we are as good as anyone. There will be very few teams that shut down Liverpool's midfield like we did,[/p][/quote]Great post and spot on. Sick of commentators and pundits touting our players all the time. We have had the fire sale and the board will be judged on how effectively beat off any more vultures sniffing around. BarnetSaint
  • Score: 0

2:34pm Mon 18 Aug 14

BarnetSaint says...

milton road wrote:
Why did Koeman only say 'Hope so' in an interview after the game when questioned about Morgan staying. Amid paper talk of another bid from Spurs and Arsenal joining in? Where was the 'Not for sale' reply. Which only made me wonder if the rumors are true that he has been told if the price reaches a certain sum he can talk to clubs in return for him settling down and playing. I truly hope this is not the case., but who can tell with this board.
Didn't help with the commentators on the live stream telling clubs to come in for Wanyama. That is what happens when you sell your soul you get a name for letting the best go and its hard to stop people seeing you as a selling club when you have a fire sale, which of course the board say it wasn't.
Sorry if that seems a little critical but it is how it looks.
We looked good yesterday, was very proud of the way we played and we are supposed to be in for a Columbia winger who can also cover as right back. This will give us more width but also make us more exposed in the middle, because it means losing either Davis or WP from midfield and if we go with two strikers both.
Thought Tadic had a good first Premiership game and if we had a Sterling or Sturridge we would of won at a canter. He played some very good balls after taking a while to settle. Or maybe dare i say it a fit Rodriguez, that is what really made it exciting yesterday, you could see the potential there with Jay playing.
Pleased to see the way we played in the second half.
Personally I would of prefered Buroc in goal and thought it should of been Forster that should prove his worth not one of last season's top premier keepers. Buroc has good agility and reflexes, and may well of cut out at least one of Liverpool's goals. Not saying Forster is not a good and commanding keeper, just feel Buroc has been treated a little badly.
Anyway we played well after the first half an hour or so.
Lovren looked stressed there at times and he was turned by Clyne for the first goal I think.
Hopefully we keep everyone and go into the next game and we keep everyone and have the confidence to know we are as good as anyone. There will be very few teams that shut down Liverpool's midfield like we did,
Great post and spot on.
Sick of commentators and pundits touting our players all the time.
We have had the fire sale and the board will be judged on how effectively beat off any more vultures sniffing around.
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: Why did Koeman only say 'Hope so' in an interview after the game when questioned about Morgan staying. Amid paper talk of another bid from Spurs and Arsenal joining in? Where was the 'Not for sale' reply. Which only made me wonder if the rumors are true that he has been told if the price reaches a certain sum he can talk to clubs in return for him settling down and playing. I truly hope this is not the case., but who can tell with this board. Didn't help with the commentators on the live stream telling clubs to come in for Wanyama. That is what happens when you sell your soul you get a name for letting the best go and its hard to stop people seeing you as a selling club when you have a fire sale, which of course the board say it wasn't. Sorry if that seems a little critical but it is how it looks. We looked good yesterday, was very proud of the way we played and we are supposed to be in for a Columbia winger who can also cover as right back. This will give us more width but also make us more exposed in the middle, because it means losing either Davis or WP from midfield and if we go with two strikers both. Thought Tadic had a good first Premiership game and if we had a Sterling or Sturridge we would of won at a canter. He played some very good balls after taking a while to settle. Or maybe dare i say it a fit Rodriguez, that is what really made it exciting yesterday, you could see the potential there with Jay playing. Pleased to see the way we played in the second half. Personally I would of prefered Buroc in goal and thought it should of been Forster that should prove his worth not one of last season's top premier keepers. Buroc has good agility and reflexes, and may well of cut out at least one of Liverpool's goals. Not saying Forster is not a good and commanding keeper, just feel Buroc has been treated a little badly. Anyway we played well after the first half an hour or so. Lovren looked stressed there at times and he was turned by Clyne for the first goal I think. Hopefully we keep everyone and go into the next game and we keep everyone and have the confidence to know we are as good as anyone. There will be very few teams that shut down Liverpool's midfield like we did,[/p][/quote]Great post and spot on. Sick of commentators and pundits touting our players all the time. We have had the fire sale and the board will be judged on how effectively beat off any more vultures sniffing around. BarnetSaint
  • Score: 0

2:42pm Mon 18 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

IOAD wrote:
swesaint wrote:
Hobson82 wrote:
Although he played ok yesterday I still think a 100% fully commited Morgan Schneiderlin would have taken the ball and the player on the lead up to the first goal.
He did cover more ground than any other player on the pitch so I dont think commitment was a big issue
He covered more ground than any player in the Premiership this weekend, over 7 miles, I understand.
Yes, but Hobson82 makes a very astute and intelligent comment. Imagine what he'd have done if he was committed?

He'd have taken out the player and the ball, run probably 180 miles (more than anyone in the world this weekend) and definitely not have purposefully hit the bar with that rocket of a shot in the final minutes.
[quote][p][bold]IOAD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swesaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hobson82[/bold] wrote: Although he played ok yesterday I still think a 100% fully commited Morgan Schneiderlin would have taken the ball and the player on the lead up to the first goal.[/p][/quote]He did cover more ground than any other player on the pitch so I dont think commitment was a big issue[/p][/quote]He covered more ground than any player in the Premiership this weekend, over 7 miles, I understand.[/p][/quote]Yes, but Hobson82 makes a very astute and intelligent comment. Imagine what he'd have done if he was committed? He'd have taken out the player and the ball, run probably 180 miles (more than anyone in the world this weekend) and definitely not have purposefully hit the bar with that rocket of a shot in the final minutes. SaintJD
  • Score: 1

2:50pm Mon 18 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

fascia123 wrote:
yellowcard wrote:
damoose wrote:
Good performance had them crapping themselves in 2nd half,it proves it dosent matter how many of our players they tap up or how much money they spend,we still silence Anfield.my only gripe is if Yoshida had charged the ball after Wanyama had headed it up,watch Yoshida just hesitate for their 2nd goal...and for their 1st he was out of position..need Gardos to get fit asap
I think you will find it was clyne who should of been covering sterling and was caught out half way up the pitch even the commentators said so. Also it was clyne who was on sturidge for the second goal.
I think if you watch it again you will find Spyder is closest after Vic heads it on the second goal, but just stands there.
Funny isn't it, everyone has different views of things. Personally, though I'm sure Victor will get a share of the blame for his poor clearance, in my opinion if anyone is beaten in the air by a tiny, lightweight player like Sterling, as Davis was (easily) they have to take the lion's share of the blame.

I also heavily disagree with what people are saying on here about Morgan being a shadow of his former self. Firstly, he's had little to no pre-season so I doubt it is anything to do with commitment, but secondly, he impressed me a lot more than he has of late.

Maybe it's the loss of our other class players, but I just thought the guy stood out as a quality footballer all game, naturally getting better as the game went on but tailing off at the end as you'd expect in a first game where our players were working incredibly hard.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yellowcard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: Good performance had them crapping themselves in 2nd half,it proves it dosent matter how many of our players they tap up or how much money they spend,we still silence Anfield.my only gripe is if Yoshida had charged the ball after Wanyama had headed it up,watch Yoshida just hesitate for their 2nd goal...and for their 1st he was out of position..need Gardos to get fit asap[/p][/quote]I think you will find it was clyne who should of been covering sterling and was caught out half way up the pitch even the commentators said so. Also it was clyne who was on sturidge for the second goal.[/p][/quote]I think if you watch it again you will find Spyder is closest after Vic heads it on the second goal, but just stands there.[/p][/quote]Funny isn't it, everyone has different views of things. Personally, though I'm sure Victor will get a share of the blame for his poor clearance, in my opinion if anyone is beaten in the air by a tiny, lightweight player like Sterling, as Davis was (easily) they have to take the lion's share of the blame. I also heavily disagree with what people are saying on here about Morgan being a shadow of his former self. Firstly, he's had little to no pre-season so I doubt it is anything to do with commitment, but secondly, he impressed me a lot more than he has of late. Maybe it's the loss of our other class players, but I just thought the guy stood out as a quality footballer all game, naturally getting better as the game went on but tailing off at the end as you'd expect in a first game where our players were working incredibly hard. SaintJD
  • Score: 3

2:55pm Mon 18 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

spratt wrote:
Excellent result and things bode well for another good season. However still lacking that threat up front. Pelle hasn't shown that much as yet but hopefully will come good. Still need another top quality striker which is what won the game for Liverpool. Best signing of the year thus far is Ron. Long may he reign. As for Spider just hopes he stays.
I honestly think we'll be fine up front this season. Pelle just needs games and I'm confident he will bang a lot in with the help of JWP's whipped deliveries and the guile of Long, Davis and Tadic.

I'm actually pleased that we don't have any other options because too often we buy players like Mayuka and don't give them a run until their confidence is shot. I'd like to see us persist with Pelle until he comes good - Bony didn't really catch alight last season until December at the earliest.

I can't believe Pelle won't thrive in this league - he's great in the air, strong and just looks the business. Just a matter of time.
[quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: Excellent result and things bode well for another good season. However still lacking that threat up front. Pelle hasn't shown that much as yet but hopefully will come good. Still need another top quality striker which is what won the game for Liverpool. Best signing of the year thus far is Ron. Long may he reign. As for Spider just hopes he stays.[/p][/quote]I honestly think we'll be fine up front this season. Pelle just needs games and I'm confident he will bang a lot in with the help of JWP's whipped deliveries and the guile of Long, Davis and Tadic. I'm actually pleased that we don't have any other options because too often we buy players like Mayuka and don't give them a run until their confidence is shot. I'd like to see us persist with Pelle until he comes good - Bony didn't really catch alight last season until December at the earliest. I can't believe Pelle won't thrive in this league - he's great in the air, strong and just looks the business. Just a matter of time. SaintJD
  • Score: 6

3:12pm Mon 18 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

By the way, there is still a bit of nonsense on here in terms of who was good, who was bad and who could have done better.

Personally I see nothing but positives in the performance - much, much better than I expected, particularly in the style of play in the second half.

So many players to get excited about: Forster is just a great calming influence with his stature and handling, Bertrand looked total class, Clyne, though suspect defensively, was brilliant going forward, JWP was involved in everything, Spider and Victor were immense, Tadic is quality and will get much better, Pelle showed signs of being good at holding the ball up and will find his feet, Long showed a couple of flashes of great skill, Isgrove looked un-phased and dangerous, Fonte looked pumped. The whole team was quality as a unit.

I do think defensively we will be tested more and there were those little individual lapses of concentration and the odd lazy, risky pass, but if Florin does become a natural first choice we'll be solid there too.

Now let's give them time to settle next week. An all too winnable game but let's be patient and enjoy watching this team evolve. If we treat them with the same respect as we treated Liverpool in terms of commitment and work rate, we'll win.

Oh, and of course Long is going to like playing against the Baggies. Bring it on!
By the way, there is still a bit of nonsense on here in terms of who was good, who was bad and who could have done better. Personally I see nothing but positives in the performance - much, much better than I expected, particularly in the style of play in the second half. So many players to get excited about: Forster is just a great calming influence with his stature and handling, Bertrand looked total class, Clyne, though suspect defensively, was brilliant going forward, JWP was involved in everything, Spider and Victor were immense, Tadic is quality and will get much better, Pelle showed signs of being good at holding the ball up and will find his feet, Long showed a couple of flashes of great skill, Isgrove looked un-phased and dangerous, Fonte looked pumped. The whole team was quality as a unit. I do think defensively we will be tested more and there were those little individual lapses of concentration and the odd lazy, risky pass, but if Florin does become a natural first choice we'll be solid there too. Now let's give them time to settle next week. An all too winnable game but let's be patient and enjoy watching this team evolve. If we treat them with the same respect as we treated Liverpool in terms of commitment and work rate, we'll win. Oh, and of course Long is going to like playing against the Baggies. Bring it on! SaintJD
  • Score: 5

3:42pm Mon 18 Aug 14

spratt says...

SaintJD wrote:
spratt wrote:
Excellent result and things bode well for another good season. However still lacking that threat up front. Pelle hasn't shown that much as yet but hopefully will come good. Still need another top quality striker which is what won the game for Liverpool. Best signing of the year thus far is Ron. Long may he reign. As for Spider just hopes he stays.
I honestly think we'll be fine up front this season. Pelle just needs games and I'm confident he will bang a lot in with the help of JWP's whipped deliveries and the guile of Long, Davis and Tadic.

I'm actually pleased that we don't have any other options because too often we buy players like Mayuka and don't give them a run until their confidence is shot. I'd like to see us persist with Pelle until he comes good - Bony didn't really catch alight last season until December at the earliest.

I can't believe Pelle won't thrive in this league - he's great in the air, strong and just looks the business. Just a matter of time.
Re Pelle I certainly agree that we have to give him time. For that matter the whole squad needs time to gel which makes the performance on Sunday even more encouraging. How strange that after all the turmoil of the past months it genuinely looks like we have a better squad than we had before - and with more to come things really do look good. I would not want to exchange this manager and squad for what we had before.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: Excellent result and things bode well for another good season. However still lacking that threat up front. Pelle hasn't shown that much as yet but hopefully will come good. Still need another top quality striker which is what won the game for Liverpool. Best signing of the year thus far is Ron. Long may he reign. As for Spider just hopes he stays.[/p][/quote]I honestly think we'll be fine up front this season. Pelle just needs games and I'm confident he will bang a lot in with the help of JWP's whipped deliveries and the guile of Long, Davis and Tadic. I'm actually pleased that we don't have any other options because too often we buy players like Mayuka and don't give them a run until their confidence is shot. I'd like to see us persist with Pelle until he comes good - Bony didn't really catch alight last season until December at the earliest. I can't believe Pelle won't thrive in this league - he's great in the air, strong and just looks the business. Just a matter of time.[/p][/quote]Re Pelle I certainly agree that we have to give him time. For that matter the whole squad needs time to gel which makes the performance on Sunday even more encouraging. How strange that after all the turmoil of the past months it genuinely looks like we have a better squad than we had before - and with more to come things really do look good. I would not want to exchange this manager and squad for what we had before. spratt
  • Score: 5

4:08pm Mon 18 Aug 14

warrens 76 says...

spratt wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
spratt wrote:
Excellent result and things bode well for another good season. However still lacking that threat up front. Pelle hasn't shown that much as yet but hopefully will come good. Still need another top quality striker which is what won the game for Liverpool. Best signing of the year thus far is Ron. Long may he reign. As for Spider just hopes he stays.
I honestly think we'll be fine up front this season. Pelle just needs games and I'm confident he will bang a lot in with the help of JWP's whipped deliveries and the guile of Long, Davis and Tadic.

I'm actually pleased that we don't have any other options because too often we buy players like Mayuka and don't give them a run until their confidence is shot. I'd like to see us persist with Pelle until he comes good - Bony didn't really catch alight last season until December at the earliest.

I can't believe Pelle won't thrive in this league - he's great in the air, strong and just looks the business. Just a matter of time.
Re Pelle I certainly agree that we have to give him time. For that matter the whole squad needs time to gel which makes the performance on Sunday even more encouraging. How strange that after all the turmoil of the past months it genuinely looks like we have a better squad than we had before - and with more to come things really do look good. I would not want to exchange this manager and squad for what we had before.
So no points, 2 sitters missed and everything is dandy, come on...
[quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: Excellent result and things bode well for another good season. However still lacking that threat up front. Pelle hasn't shown that much as yet but hopefully will come good. Still need another top quality striker which is what won the game for Liverpool. Best signing of the year thus far is Ron. Long may he reign. As for Spider just hopes he stays.[/p][/quote]I honestly think we'll be fine up front this season. Pelle just needs games and I'm confident he will bang a lot in with the help of JWP's whipped deliveries and the guile of Long, Davis and Tadic. I'm actually pleased that we don't have any other options because too often we buy players like Mayuka and don't give them a run until their confidence is shot. I'd like to see us persist with Pelle until he comes good - Bony didn't really catch alight last season until December at the earliest. I can't believe Pelle won't thrive in this league - he's great in the air, strong and just looks the business. Just a matter of time.[/p][/quote]Re Pelle I certainly agree that we have to give him time. For that matter the whole squad needs time to gel which makes the performance on Sunday even more encouraging. How strange that after all the turmoil of the past months it genuinely looks like we have a better squad than we had before - and with more to come things really do look good. I would not want to exchange this manager and squad for what we had before.[/p][/quote]So no points, 2 sitters missed and everything is dandy, come on... warrens 76
  • Score: -7

4:46pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Poole Tom says...

Although I was also encouraged by yesterday`s performance it surprises me that after just one league game some people on here have already concluded that our new players are better than our old players, our new manager is better than our old manager and our new squad is better than our old squad! Obviously I hope they are proved right but for me the time to make those sort of judgments is at the end of the season not after the first game. The fact is that the previous now despised manager and players did a great job for Saints, in some cases over many years, which personally I don`t think we should forget or dismiss just because we are bitter about the way in which some of them left.
Although I was also encouraged by yesterday`s performance it surprises me that after just one league game some people on here have already concluded that our new players are better than our old players, our new manager is better than our old manager and our new squad is better than our old squad! Obviously I hope they are proved right but for me the time to make those sort of judgments is at the end of the season not after the first game. The fact is that the previous now despised manager and players did a great job for Saints, in some cases over many years, which personally I don`t think we should forget or dismiss just because we are bitter about the way in which some of them left. Poole Tom
  • Score: 0

5:42pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Poole Tom wrote:
Although I was also encouraged by yesterday`s performance it surprises me that after just one league game some people on here have already concluded that our new players are better than our old players, our new manager is better than our old manager and our new squad is better than our old squad! Obviously I hope they are proved right but for me the time to make those sort of judgments is at the end of the season not after the first game. The fact is that the previous now despised manager and players did a great job for Saints, in some cases over many years, which personally I don`t think we should forget or dismiss just because we are bitter about the way in which some of them left.
Not forgetting the contribution Cortese made to it all as well.
[quote][p][bold]Poole Tom[/bold] wrote: Although I was also encouraged by yesterday`s performance it surprises me that after just one league game some people on here have already concluded that our new players are better than our old players, our new manager is better than our old manager and our new squad is better than our old squad! Obviously I hope they are proved right but for me the time to make those sort of judgments is at the end of the season not after the first game. The fact is that the previous now despised manager and players did a great job for Saints, in some cases over many years, which personally I don`t think we should forget or dismiss just because we are bitter about the way in which some of them left.[/p][/quote]Not forgetting the contribution Cortese made to it all as well. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

6:40pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Chapperall says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Poole Tom wrote:
Although I was also encouraged by yesterday`s performance it surprises me that after just one league game some people on here have already concluded that our new players are better than our old players, our new manager is better than our old manager and our new squad is better than our old squad! Obviously I hope they are proved right but for me the time to make those sort of judgments is at the end of the season not after the first game. The fact is that the previous now despised manager and players did a great job for Saints, in some cases over many years, which personally I don`t think we should forget or dismiss just because we are bitter about the way in which some of them left.
Not forgetting the contribution Cortese made to it all as well.
Need to remember it's not the leaving that stuck in people's throats it's the way they did it. Yes Poch was a good manager but it was Adkins team and we will never know what would have happened if he had stayed on. One thing for certain he would not have done what the Argie Judas did and told everyone a pack of lies while he was preparing himself to leave. Also the way we went out the cup against Sunderland was his making. Why we will never know.
I agree with you we had a great team last season but some of the players showed their true colours in the things they said to engineer a move. Many of us will not forget that in a hurry. Sorry!
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poole Tom[/bold] wrote: Although I was also encouraged by yesterday`s performance it surprises me that after just one league game some people on here have already concluded that our new players are better than our old players, our new manager is better than our old manager and our new squad is better than our old squad! Obviously I hope they are proved right but for me the time to make those sort of judgments is at the end of the season not after the first game. The fact is that the previous now despised manager and players did a great job for Saints, in some cases over many years, which personally I don`t think we should forget or dismiss just because we are bitter about the way in which some of them left.[/p][/quote]Not forgetting the contribution Cortese made to it all as well.[/p][/quote]Need to remember it's not the leaving that stuck in people's throats it's the way they did it. Yes Poch was a good manager but it was Adkins team and we will never know what would have happened if he had stayed on. One thing for certain he would not have done what the Argie Judas did and told everyone a pack of lies while he was preparing himself to leave. Also the way we went out the cup against Sunderland was his making. Why we will never know. I agree with you we had a great team last season but some of the players showed their true colours in the things they said to engineer a move. Many of us will not forget that in a hurry. Sorry! Chapperall
  • Score: 4

7:23pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Derek Barnes says...

Great performance from Morgan ,I'm pretty sure with another one on sat. at home saints may get an offer they cannot refuse for him ..He's the key to us controlling midfield , lets hope he marches on with us.The J rod injury is a blessing in disguise he will be with us this season,clubs with watch his recovery after Xmas. In Morgan we trust, could become agood captain if he stays.Scoring goal will be our biggest problem .
Great performance from Morgan ,I'm pretty sure with another one on sat. at home saints may get an offer they cannot refuse for him ..He's the key to us controlling midfield , lets hope he marches on with us.The J rod injury is a blessing in disguise he will be with us this season,clubs with watch his recovery after Xmas. In Morgan we trust, could become agood captain if he stays.Scoring goal will be our biggest problem . Derek Barnes
  • Score: 1

8:57pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Poole Tom says...

Chapperall wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Poole Tom wrote:
Although I was also encouraged by yesterday`s performance it surprises me that after just one league game some people on here have already concluded that our new players are better than our old players, our new manager is better than our old manager and our new squad is better than our old squad! Obviously I hope they are proved right but for me the time to make those sort of judgments is at the end of the season not after the first game. The fact is that the previous now despised manager and players did a great job for Saints, in some cases over many years, which personally I don`t think we should forget or dismiss just because we are bitter about the way in which some of them left.
Not forgetting the contribution Cortese made to it all as well.
Need to remember it's not the leaving that stuck in people's throats it's the way they did it. Yes Poch was a good manager but it was Adkins team and we will never know what would have happened if he had stayed on. One thing for certain he would not have done what the Argie Judas did and told everyone a pack of lies while he was preparing himself to leave. Also the way we went out the cup against Sunderland was his making. Why we will never know.
I agree with you we had a great team last season but some of the players showed their true colours in the things they said to engineer a move. Many of us will not forget that in a hurry. Sorry!
No need to apologise because I know where you are coming from. However what this close season should have taught all of us if we did`nt know already is that given the opportunity to double, treble or even quadruple their wages and play/manage in Europe most players and managers will very quickly become dissatisfied at a club the size of Saints and do what it takes to get the move they desire.
[quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poole Tom[/bold] wrote: Although I was also encouraged by yesterday`s performance it surprises me that after just one league game some people on here have already concluded that our new players are better than our old players, our new manager is better than our old manager and our new squad is better than our old squad! Obviously I hope they are proved right but for me the time to make those sort of judgments is at the end of the season not after the first game. The fact is that the previous now despised manager and players did a great job for Saints, in some cases over many years, which personally I don`t think we should forget or dismiss just because we are bitter about the way in which some of them left.[/p][/quote]Not forgetting the contribution Cortese made to it all as well.[/p][/quote]Need to remember it's not the leaving that stuck in people's throats it's the way they did it. Yes Poch was a good manager but it was Adkins team and we will never know what would have happened if he had stayed on. One thing for certain he would not have done what the Argie Judas did and told everyone a pack of lies while he was preparing himself to leave. Also the way we went out the cup against Sunderland was his making. Why we will never know. I agree with you we had a great team last season but some of the players showed their true colours in the things they said to engineer a move. Many of us will not forget that in a hurry. Sorry![/p][/quote]No need to apologise because I know where you are coming from. However what this close season should have taught all of us if we did`nt know already is that given the opportunity to double, treble or even quadruple their wages and play/manage in Europe most players and managers will very quickly become dissatisfied at a club the size of Saints and do what it takes to get the move they desire. Poole Tom
  • Score: 1

9:01pm Mon 18 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

warrens 76 wrote:
spratt wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
spratt wrote:
Excellent result and things bode well for another good season. However still lacking that threat up front. Pelle hasn't shown that much as yet but hopefully will come good. Still need another top quality striker which is what won the game for Liverpool. Best signing of the year thus far is Ron. Long may he reign. As for Spider just hopes he stays.
I honestly think we'll be fine up front this season. Pelle just needs games and I'm confident he will bang a lot in with the help of JWP's whipped deliveries and the guile of Long, Davis and Tadic.

I'm actually pleased that we don't have any other options because too often we buy players like Mayuka and don't give them a run until their confidence is shot. I'd like to see us persist with Pelle until he comes good - Bony didn't really catch alight last season until December at the earliest.

I can't believe Pelle won't thrive in this league - he's great in the air, strong and just looks the business. Just a matter of time.
Re Pelle I certainly agree that we have to give him time. For that matter the whole squad needs time to gel which makes the performance on Sunday even more encouraging. How strange that after all the turmoil of the past months it genuinely looks like we have a better squad than we had before - and with more to come things really do look good. I would not want to exchange this manager and squad for what we had before.
So no points, 2 sitters missed and everything is dandy, come on...
... don't look back in anger, I heard you say.....
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: Excellent result and things bode well for another good season. However still lacking that threat up front. Pelle hasn't shown that much as yet but hopefully will come good. Still need another top quality striker which is what won the game for Liverpool. Best signing of the year thus far is Ron. Long may he reign. As for Spider just hopes he stays.[/p][/quote]I honestly think we'll be fine up front this season. Pelle just needs games and I'm confident he will bang a lot in with the help of JWP's whipped deliveries and the guile of Long, Davis and Tadic. I'm actually pleased that we don't have any other options because too often we buy players like Mayuka and don't give them a run until their confidence is shot. I'd like to see us persist with Pelle until he comes good - Bony didn't really catch alight last season until December at the earliest. I can't believe Pelle won't thrive in this league - he's great in the air, strong and just looks the business. Just a matter of time.[/p][/quote]Re Pelle I certainly agree that we have to give him time. For that matter the whole squad needs time to gel which makes the performance on Sunday even more encouraging. How strange that after all the turmoil of the past months it genuinely looks like we have a better squad than we had before - and with more to come things really do look good. I would not want to exchange this manager and squad for what we had before.[/p][/quote]So no points, 2 sitters missed and everything is dandy, come on...[/p][/quote]... don't look back in anger, I heard you say..... OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

9:09pm Mon 18 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Costa Baz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Is Yoshida the new Guly? He seems to be the new whipping boy. From what I saw I don't think he deserves more criticism than the other players.
Would have to agree with you.
With some of our neggies, someone has to take the blame, don't think Maya would be too bothered, he's probably never read this site anyhow.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: Is Yoshida the new Guly? He seems to be the new whipping boy. From what I saw I don't think he deserves more criticism than the other players.[/p][/quote]Would have to agree with you.[/p][/quote]With some of our neggies, someone has to take the blame, don't think Maya would be too bothered, he's probably never read this site anyhow. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

9:31pm Mon 18 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Chapperall wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Poole Tom wrote:
Although I was also encouraged by yesterday`s performance it surprises me that after just one league game some people on here have already concluded that our new players are better than our old players, our new manager is better than our old manager and our new squad is better than our old squad! Obviously I hope they are proved right but for me the time to make those sort of judgments is at the end of the season not after the first game. The fact is that the previous now despised manager and players did a great job for Saints, in some cases over many years, which personally I don`t think we should forget or dismiss just because we are bitter about the way in which some of them left.
Not forgetting the contribution Cortese made to it all as well.
Need to remember it's not the leaving that stuck in people's throats it's the way they did it. Yes Poch was a good manager but it was Adkins team and we will never know what would have happened if he had stayed on. One thing for certain he would not have done what the Argie Judas did and told everyone a pack of lies while he was preparing himself to leave. Also the way we went out the cup against Sunderland was his making. Why we will never know.
I agree with you we had a great team last season but some of the players showed their true colours in the things they said to engineer a move. Many of us will not forget that in a hurry. Sorry!
Spot on
[quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poole Tom[/bold] wrote: Although I was also encouraged by yesterday`s performance it surprises me that after just one league game some people on here have already concluded that our new players are better than our old players, our new manager is better than our old manager and our new squad is better than our old squad! Obviously I hope they are proved right but for me the time to make those sort of judgments is at the end of the season not after the first game. The fact is that the previous now despised manager and players did a great job for Saints, in some cases over many years, which personally I don`t think we should forget or dismiss just because we are bitter about the way in which some of them left.[/p][/quote]Not forgetting the contribution Cortese made to it all as well.[/p][/quote]Need to remember it's not the leaving that stuck in people's throats it's the way they did it. Yes Poch was a good manager but it was Adkins team and we will never know what would have happened if he had stayed on. One thing for certain he would not have done what the Argie Judas did and told everyone a pack of lies while he was preparing himself to leave. Also the way we went out the cup against Sunderland was his making. Why we will never know. I agree with you we had a great team last season but some of the players showed their true colours in the things they said to engineer a move. Many of us will not forget that in a hurry. Sorry![/p][/quote]Spot on fascia123
  • Score: 4

10:58pm Mon 18 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

fascia123 wrote:
Chapperall wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Poole Tom wrote:
Although I was also encouraged by yesterday`s performance it surprises me that after just one league game some people on here have already concluded that our new players are better than our old players, our new manager is better than our old manager and our new squad is better than our old squad! Obviously I hope they are proved right but for me the time to make those sort of judgments is at the end of the season not after the first game. The fact is that the previous now despised manager and players did a great job for Saints, in some cases over many years, which personally I don`t think we should forget or dismiss just because we are bitter about the way in which some of them left.
Not forgetting the contribution Cortese made to it all as well.
Need to remember it's not the leaving that stuck in people's throats it's the way they did it. Yes Poch was a good manager but it was Adkins team and we will never know what would have happened if he had stayed on. One thing for certain he would not have done what the Argie Judas did and told everyone a pack of lies while he was preparing himself to leave. Also the way we went out the cup against Sunderland was his making. Why we will never know.
I agree with you we had a great team last season but some of the players showed their true colours in the things they said to engineer a move. Many of us will not forget that in a hurry. Sorry!
Spot on
Do you think the plan was already set when we played Sunderland, if we would of found a route into Europe through the cup it would of been one excuse removed for the players already plotting to move and citing lack of championship football as a reason and probably the manager as well?
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poole Tom[/bold] wrote: Although I was also encouraged by yesterday`s performance it surprises me that after just one league game some people on here have already concluded that our new players are better than our old players, our new manager is better than our old manager and our new squad is better than our old squad! Obviously I hope they are proved right but for me the time to make those sort of judgments is at the end of the season not after the first game. The fact is that the previous now despised manager and players did a great job for Saints, in some cases over many years, which personally I don`t think we should forget or dismiss just because we are bitter about the way in which some of them left.[/p][/quote]Not forgetting the contribution Cortese made to it all as well.[/p][/quote]Need to remember it's not the leaving that stuck in people's throats it's the way they did it. Yes Poch was a good manager but it was Adkins team and we will never know what would have happened if he had stayed on. One thing for certain he would not have done what the Argie Judas did and told everyone a pack of lies while he was preparing himself to leave. Also the way we went out the cup against Sunderland was his making. Why we will never know. I agree with you we had a great team last season but some of the players showed their true colours in the things they said to engineer a move. Many of us will not forget that in a hurry. Sorry![/p][/quote]Spot on[/p][/quote]Do you think the plan was already set when we played Sunderland, if we would of found a route into Europe through the cup it would of been one excuse removed for the players already plotting to move and citing lack of championship football as a reason and probably the manager as well? fascia123
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