Wenger: Saints could have won the European Cup had they kept all their star names

ARSENE WENGER

ARSENE WENGER

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ARSENE Wenger has revealed Saints “could have won the European Cup” – had managers like him not plundered the club for their best players.

The Arsenal boss admits the Saints could have been one of the biggest teams in Europe had they kept their star players.

Wenger will be watching on intently as new coach Ronald Koeman looks to cope with the loss of so many talented players this summer.

“'I respect the quality of work they (Southampton) have done,” said Wenger.

“You look at Southampton and the team they had last year, plus Walcott, Chamberlain and Bale - they could have won the European Cup had they managed to keep everyone together.

“The modern game has changed and the smaller clubs with less potential are not in a position to keep their players.

“It will be interesting to see how they get over what happened to them.

“They have made a lot of income and they have shown in the past they are very clever at scouting.

“It will be very interesting to see how they manage what has happened to them.”

Wenger has signed three of Saints’ crown jewels in the last seven and a half years.

He swooped to sign 16-year-old Theo Walcott in January 2006, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, then 17, in August 2011, and earlier this week snapped up defender Calum Chambers in a deal worth potentially £16m to Saints.

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3:47pm Fri 1 Aug 14

promised land says...

Look what you could have won with us Lielana, Shaw, Lovren, Chambers ? Oh well your loss.....Saints F.C onwards and upwards.
Look what you could have won with us Lielana, Shaw, Lovren, Chambers ? Oh well your loss.....Saints F.C onwards and upwards. promised land
  • Score: 48

3:54pm Fri 1 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Nice sentiment from Wenger. What he doesn't mention is that we could have gone bankrupt a lot sooner if we hadn't waived the sell on clause for Bale when in the Championship. That's how much the money meant to us at the time.

If it's a choice of winning something while amassing unsustainable debt and liquidating ala Leeds and Pompey or consistently performing in England's top league on a budget I'll take the later thanks very much.
Nice sentiment from Wenger. What he doesn't mention is that we could have gone bankrupt a lot sooner if we hadn't waived the sell on clause for Bale when in the Championship. That's how much the money meant to us at the time. If it's a choice of winning something while amassing unsustainable debt and liquidating ala Leeds and Pompey or consistently performing in England's top league on a budget I'll take the later thanks very much. SaintJD
  • Score: 63

3:58pm Fri 1 Aug 14

the swinging arm of channon says...

Perhaps we’ll see that team together sometime for a testimonial – oh no, hang on, no player stays ten minutes nowadays let alone ten seasons, so perhaps we won’t.
Perhaps we’ll see that team together sometime for a testimonial – oh no, hang on, no player stays ten minutes nowadays let alone ten seasons, so perhaps we won’t. the swinging arm of channon
  • Score: 38

3:58pm Fri 1 Aug 14

saint christopher says...

Bit of a pointless statement, somewhat condescending, and ironic given that he is the one most responsible for removing these players.

At least it's recognition again that we are a template for other clubs to follow, which can only be good news as we seek to expand and exploit the Saints "brand" world-wide.
Bit of a pointless statement, somewhat condescending, and ironic given that he is the one most responsible for removing these players. At least it's recognition again that we are a template for other clubs to follow, which can only be good news as we seek to expand and exploit the Saints "brand" world-wide. saint christopher
  • Score: 28

4:00pm Fri 1 Aug 14

merrysaint says...

The thing is Arsene.....you've come and poached some of our best young talent over the years.....and still ended up with winning ZILCH!
It says more about YOU and Arsenal, than it does about Southampton FC.
Now shut your Frog-Hole!
The thing is Arsene.....you've come and poached some of our best young talent over the years.....and still ended up with winning ZILCH! It says more about YOU and Arsenal, than it does about Southampton FC. Now shut your Frog-Hole! merrysaint
  • Score: 62

4:04pm Fri 1 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 0

4:08pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Jan28th1984 says...

Thanks for that statement Arsene, it's amazing how much better I feel.
Thanks for that statement Arsene, it's amazing how much better I feel. Jan28th1984
  • Score: 11

4:16pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

SaintJD wrote:
Nice sentiment from Wenger. What he doesn't mention is that we could have gone bankrupt a lot sooner if we hadn't waived the sell on clause for Bale when in the Championship. That's how much the money meant to us at the time.

If it's a choice of winning something while amassing unsustainable debt and liquidating ala Leeds and Pompey or consistently performing in England's top league on a budget I'll take the later thanks very much.
I think he is talking about players we developed in the academy and therefore cost us nothing - other than the costs of running the academy of course.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: Nice sentiment from Wenger. What he doesn't mention is that we could have gone bankrupt a lot sooner if we hadn't waived the sell on clause for Bale when in the Championship. That's how much the money meant to us at the time. If it's a choice of winning something while amassing unsustainable debt and liquidating ala Leeds and Pompey or consistently performing in England's top league on a budget I'll take the later thanks very much.[/p][/quote]I think he is talking about players we developed in the academy and therefore cost us nothing - other than the costs of running the academy of course. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 9

4:19pm Fri 1 Aug 14

warrens 76 says...

Jan28th1984 wrote:
Thanks for that statement Arsene, it's amazing how much better I feel.
Sick and pig come to mind..I cannot believe that all the chairman outside the top 6 put up with this…it is nota game anymore it is a big di3k swinging contest, who has the largest sponsors and sponsors themselves boast who endorses the biggest club..bla bla..

Whatever it a'int sport..even the US od A does not allow sport to be bought…terrible indictment …I think there should be a pan european protest with all fans supporting everyone outside of the consistant top 4-6 everywhere demanding some form of equity in football..

I do not begrudge Mufco or 4rse earning fortunes a là Dallas cowboys (billion plus per year) I DO object to our sports prizes being bought.
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: Thanks for that statement Arsene, it's amazing how much better I feel.[/p][/quote]Sick and pig come to mind..I cannot believe that all the chairman outside the top 6 put up with this…it is nota game anymore it is a big di3k swinging contest, who has the largest sponsors and sponsors themselves boast who endorses the biggest club..bla bla.. Whatever it a'int sport..even the US od A does not allow sport to be bought…terrible indictment …I think there should be a pan european protest with all fans supporting everyone outside of the consistant top 4-6 everywhere demanding some form of equity in football.. I do not begrudge Mufco or 4rse earning fortunes a là Dallas cowboys (billion plus per year) I DO object to our sports prizes being bought. warrens 76
  • Score: 12

4:22pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Jan28th1984 wrote:
Thanks for that statement Arsene, it's amazing how much better I feel.
If they'd only given Cortese a little longer before pulling the plug,still,its all water under the bridge now.
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: Thanks for that statement Arsene, it's amazing how much better I feel.[/p][/quote]If they'd only given Cortese a little longer before pulling the plug,still,its all water under the bridge now. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: -22

4:23pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Alicesdad says...

What on Earth inspired a comment like his from the old boy? I generally respect his opinion but it sounds either like a bit of stirring by the press. or is he having a go at our board? I really don't know.

Frankly a bigger surpise is that Arsenal haven't won the Champions League. They have had some high quality players over the years , not just the ones we sold to them. But still they struggle to win anything and their only achhievement is qualifying for the Champions League..... again and again and again. Yawn... They have an amazing stadium and solid core fan base, yet still they under achieve. Im not having a go here, Im just reflecting that with all their money and long heritage its still very tough to progress and win anything substantial these days.

If we take his comments at face value, he is making a speculative pointt at best. We were very good last season but our final league position was fair based on our results. if we are honest we all know this is true. That team was excellent but I odubt it could have lived with the very big European teams.. lets be realistic.

For Saints the future might one day see us qualify for Champions League, not an easy ambition but still one that is not beyond our capability and certainly not beyond our means. But there is still a gap to be filled.

My view on our team last season was that despite it's brilliant flashes and top class start to the season, it still lacked "factor x". We had amazing team spirit - it was worth an extra man in some games - but we lacked one or two players that would have elevated the team to something sublime.

Champions League teams do not lose matches like the ones we slipped up in. A CL team is consistent throughout a season, we were brilliant until the Arsenal away game and then it collapsed rapidly. We regrouped OK but in the end our final position was about right.. we were not a "top four team" .... but we were on the right path.

We are still on the right path though. We have the right manager, we still have a solid core of excellent players with some new some new signings and more youth discoveries still on the way .. I still think we should make top half if everyone lives up to their billing.

The board needs to think through its strategy on communication though. A measured and consistent approach is better than bouts of silence followed by platitudes. The fans ar not stupid. The owners need to consder their stance too, some regular supportive poistive messages would change the current mood significantly. Katarina has a personality, we need to understand it better. I think the board is still learning on its feet. Sometimes that is how it has to be.


So thanks Arsene, you have stirred the bees nest, or the press has, whatever .... but the fans are starting to see the reality of the situation and are beginning to recognise that this probably not the start of the apocalypse but the dawn of a new regime. It's not a question of "what might have been".. its a question of "what might be" ...

Long live Ron, king of kings, look on his works, ye Mighty, and despair !!
What on Earth inspired a comment like his from the old boy? I generally respect his opinion but it sounds either like a bit of stirring by the press. or is he having a go at our board? I really don't know. Frankly a bigger surpise is that Arsenal haven't won the Champions League. They have had some high quality players over the years , not just the ones we sold to them. But still they struggle to win anything and their only achhievement is qualifying for the Champions League..... again and again and again. Yawn... They have an amazing stadium and solid core fan base, yet still they under achieve. Im not having a go here, Im just reflecting that with all their money and long heritage its still very tough to progress and win anything substantial these days. If we take his comments at face value, he is making a speculative pointt at best. We were very good last season but our final league position was fair based on our results. if we are honest we all know this is true. That team was excellent but I odubt it could have lived with the very big European teams.. lets be realistic. For Saints the future might one day see us qualify for Champions League, not an easy ambition but still one that is not beyond our capability and certainly not beyond our means. But there is still a gap to be filled. My view on our team last season was that despite it's brilliant flashes and top class start to the season, it still lacked "factor x". We had amazing team spirit - it was worth an extra man in some games - but we lacked one or two players that would have elevated the team to something sublime. Champions League teams do not lose matches like the ones we slipped up in. A CL team is consistent throughout a season, we were brilliant until the Arsenal away game and then it collapsed rapidly. We regrouped OK but in the end our final position was about right.. we were not a "top four team" .... but we were on the right path. We are still on the right path though. We have the right manager, we still have a solid core of excellent players with some new some new signings and more youth discoveries still on the way .. I still think we should make top half if everyone lives up to their billing. The board needs to think through its strategy on communication though. A measured and consistent approach is better than bouts of silence followed by platitudes. The fans ar not stupid. The owners need to consder their stance too, some regular supportive poistive messages would change the current mood significantly. Katarina has a personality, we need to understand it better. I think the board is still learning on its feet. Sometimes that is how it has to be. So thanks Arsene, you have stirred the bees nest, or the press has, whatever .... but the fans are starting to see the reality of the situation and are beginning to recognise that this probably not the start of the apocalypse but the dawn of a new regime. It's not a question of "what might have been".. its a question of "what might be" ... Long live Ron, king of kings, look on his works, ye Mighty, and despair !! Alicesdad
  • Score: 41

4:29pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Saint Chris says...

Now imagine if in the coming years we have a good enough season to finish in Europe. We will be able to keep all our stars and recruit world class players to add to the Bale's and Shaw's of the future. We will be at the top for years. I can't think of another club in the world other than barca that have a better youth system .. I think we will recruit well this summer, take the season to settle down and move on from there. COYR.
Now imagine if in the coming years we have a good enough season to finish in Europe. We will be able to keep all our stars and recruit world class players to add to the Bale's and Shaw's of the future. We will be at the top for years. I can't think of another club in the world other than barca that have a better youth system .. I think we will recruit well this summer, take the season to settle down and move on from there. COYR. Saint Chris
  • Score: 12

4:33pm Fri 1 Aug 14

steekeemcglue says...

shows Arsene Wenger is loosing it.... with Poch we would not have had a cat in hells chance of winning anything in Europe....
shows Arsene Wenger is loosing it.... with Poch we would not have had a cat in hells chance of winning anything in Europe.... steekeemcglue
  • Score: 10

4:34pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Chapperall says...

He's only saying what all the Saints supporters were saying last season we had something special. We could have been in Europe now if Poch had not the games away with Sunderland. Now it's obvious why he did this as he already had made his mind up he was leaving. When you look back at the way Adkins was treated, he would have never done what Poch did. Yet it was Adkins team apart from Lovren and Osvaldo.
We currently are the butt of jokes in the media. I hope we can stuff it right up them next season. Come on Ron bring in a top notch CB and a really exciting goal machine. Then watch us go!
He's only saying what all the Saints supporters were saying last season we had something special. We could have been in Europe now if Poch had not the games away with Sunderland. Now it's obvious why he did this as he already had made his mind up he was leaving. When you look back at the way Adkins was treated, he would have never done what Poch did. Yet it was Adkins team apart from Lovren and Osvaldo. We currently are the butt of jokes in the media. I hope we can stuff it right up them next season. Come on Ron bring in a top notch CB and a really exciting goal machine. Then watch us go! Chapperall
  • Score: 34

4:36pm Fri 1 Aug 14

CB FRY LIVES says...

SOUTHAMPTON WILL WIN THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE BEFORE WENGER EVER WILL.
All Calum Chambers will learn at Arsenal is how to pick up nagging injuries just like Walcott and Oxlade Chamberlain have due to the Gunners useless training methods.
UPWARDS AND ONWARDS THE SAINTS UNDER KING RONALD K.
SOUTHAMPTON WILL WIN THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE BEFORE WENGER EVER WILL. All Calum Chambers will learn at Arsenal is how to pick up nagging injuries just like Walcott and Oxlade Chamberlain have due to the Gunners useless training methods. UPWARDS AND ONWARDS THE SAINTS UNDER KING RONALD K. CB FRY LIVES
  • Score: 2

4:36pm Fri 1 Aug 14

pemcil says...

Arsenal would've stood a better chance of winning the European Cup too if they'd been able to keep their best players.
Arsenal would've stood a better chance of winning the European Cup too if they'd been able to keep their best players. pemcil
  • Score: 11

4:37pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Malcombe says...

What of load of rubbish to spout, he's one of the Managers who notoriously stabs other Premiership Managers in the back snide comments and by tapping up Players he wants while he's on his holiday in Brazil, holiday my backside that was his excuse, he was on a mission to recruit Players he knew performed out of there skin last season and probably got them to reveal what Salary they were on and would certainly dangle the carrot with an increase that Southampton would not extend to, Wenger couldn't give a toss about anyone except himself, he probably shared the same Hotel as The Deceitful Liar and Brendan Rodgers and they too were there to poach Premiership Players.
Gone are the days of decency and respect to other Clubs if a Manager wants a certain Player from any Premiership Club he contacts the Club, everything's done by the back door including slimy Agents who pretend to be honest but in truth want to boost there own Bank Accounts.
This week news of the Owners of Man U who are pretending to be rich when in truth they are up to there eyeballs in debt and squabbling about who deserves more of the money in the Club, this is a family at war who want to plunder the Clubs finances, they really cannot afford to pay these high Salaries to Players but because they are Manchester United they have to keep up appearances and live beyond there means, this is why they wanted to bury there heads in the sand and top there selves after missing out of the Top 6 and CLF last season, of course Southampton Supporters really do sympathise with Man U as there Supporters do about Southampton, I don't think so not along as we have a hole in our backside, Southampton FC are more important than any other Club to all the loyal Saints Supporters and excitement is now building up with only just over 2 weeks to go, after seeing the last 2 friendlies Saints are looking good and will be ready for Liverpool with we hope a surprise result after the final whistle, come on you lovely Supporters be happy and optimistic as Liverpool Supporters probably already believe that there Team is a goal up, we shall see!!
What of load of rubbish to spout, he's one of the Managers who notoriously stabs other Premiership Managers in the back snide comments and by tapping up Players he wants while he's on his holiday in Brazil, holiday my backside that was his excuse, he was on a mission to recruit Players he knew performed out of there skin last season and probably got them to reveal what Salary they were on and would certainly dangle the carrot with an increase that Southampton would not extend to, Wenger couldn't give a toss about anyone except himself, he probably shared the same Hotel as The Deceitful Liar and Brendan Rodgers and they too were there to poach Premiership Players. Gone are the days of decency and respect to other Clubs if a Manager wants a certain Player from any Premiership Club he contacts the Club, everything's done by the back door including slimy Agents who pretend to be honest but in truth want to boost there own Bank Accounts. This week news of the Owners of Man U who are pretending to be rich when in truth they are up to there eyeballs in debt and squabbling about who deserves more of the money in the Club, this is a family at war who want to plunder the Clubs finances, they really cannot afford to pay these high Salaries to Players but because they are Manchester United they have to keep up appearances and live beyond there means, this is why they wanted to bury there heads in the sand and top there selves after missing out of the Top 6 and CLF last season, of course Southampton Supporters really do sympathise with Man U as there Supporters do about Southampton, I don't think so not along as we have a hole in our backside, Southampton FC are more important than any other Club to all the loyal Saints Supporters and excitement is now building up with only just over 2 weeks to go, after seeing the last 2 friendlies Saints are looking good and will be ready for Liverpool with we hope a surprise result after the final whistle, come on you lovely Supporters be happy and optimistic as Liverpool Supporters probably already believe that there Team is a goal up, we shall see!! Malcombe
  • Score: 15

4:42pm Fri 1 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
Nice sentiment from Wenger. What he doesn't mention is that we could have gone bankrupt a lot sooner if we hadn't waived the sell on clause for Bale when in the Championship. That's how much the money meant to us at the time.

If it's a choice of winning something while amassing unsustainable debt and liquidating ala Leeds and Pompey or consistently performing in England's top league on a budget I'll take the later thanks very much.
I think he is talking about players we developed in the academy and therefore cost us nothing - other than the costs of running the academy of course.
Yeah, that was my point - without our conveyor belt of youth products we sold at good prices we'd have gone bust sooner or had worse financial problems, simple as that. So while it's sad we couldn't afford to keep them together, football fairy tales tend to have consequences.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: Nice sentiment from Wenger. What he doesn't mention is that we could have gone bankrupt a lot sooner if we hadn't waived the sell on clause for Bale when in the Championship. That's how much the money meant to us at the time. If it's a choice of winning something while amassing unsustainable debt and liquidating ala Leeds and Pompey or consistently performing in England's top league on a budget I'll take the later thanks very much.[/p][/quote]I think he is talking about players we developed in the academy and therefore cost us nothing - other than the costs of running the academy of course.[/p][/quote]Yeah, that was my point - without our conveyor belt of youth products we sold at good prices we'd have gone bust sooner or had worse financial problems, simple as that. So while it's sad we couldn't afford to keep them together, football fairy tales tend to have consequences. SaintJD
  • Score: 7

4:46pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Matt Le God says...

With all due respect, when did the gooners win champions league under Wenger.... What does he know?
With all due respect, when did the gooners win champions league under Wenger.... What does he know? Matt Le God
  • Score: 3

4:46pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Matt Le God says...

With all due respect, when did the gooners win champions league under Wenger.... What does he know?
With all due respect, when did the gooners win champions league under Wenger.... What does he know? Matt Le God
  • Score: -1

4:47pm Fri 1 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

pemcil wrote:
Arsenal would've stood a better chance of winning the European Cup too if they'd been able to keep their best players.
Astute comment, yes. Fabregas, RVP, Cliche, Nasri, Cole, and probably some I've forgotten.

Also, if he believes his comments why have Walcott and the Ox been far from nailed on starters even when fit?

Apart from the fact I know they'd have reached their potential much more if they'd stayed we've not done incredibly badly from our deals with Arsenal.
[quote][p][bold]pemcil[/bold] wrote: Arsenal would've stood a better chance of winning the European Cup too if they'd been able to keep their best players.[/p][/quote]Astute comment, yes. Fabregas, RVP, Cliche, Nasri, Cole, and probably some I've forgotten. Also, if he believes his comments why have Walcott and the Ox been far from nailed on starters even when fit? Apart from the fact I know they'd have reached their potential much more if they'd stayed we've not done incredibly badly from our deals with Arsenal. SaintJD
  • Score: 6

4:48pm Fri 1 Aug 14

arthur boutfaith says...

If my auntie had balls she'd be me uncle.
If my auntie had balls she'd be me uncle. arthur boutfaith
  • Score: -2

4:48pm Fri 1 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Matt Le God wrote:
With all due respect, when did the gooners win champions league under Wenger.... What does he know?
I think he's trying to be complimentary. :) I'll tell him not to bother next time.
[quote][p][bold]Matt Le God[/bold] wrote: With all due respect, when did the gooners win champions league under Wenger.... What does he know?[/p][/quote]I think he's trying to be complimentary. :) I'll tell him not to bother next time. SaintJD
  • Score: 8

4:54pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Tony in Liberia says...

Ajax also have a brilliant youth system, arguably better than ours. Years ago it was enough to win the European Cup; now it's barely enough to get them out of the first group stage, because they can't keep their best players.

Unless we find a way to break the cartel, we will hit the same glass ceiling of the big 4 throwing ridiculous money at anyone we develop who is good enough.
Ajax also have a brilliant youth system, arguably better than ours. Years ago it was enough to win the European Cup; now it's barely enough to get them out of the first group stage, because they can't keep their best players. Unless we find a way to break the cartel, we will hit the same glass ceiling of the big 4 throwing ridiculous money at anyone we develop who is good enough. Tony in Liberia
  • Score: 24

4:57pm Fri 1 Aug 14

St.David says...

I called my wife at half time when Saints played Arsenal at St.Marys to tell her that in 45 years of watching Saints it was the best I had ever seen them play. They were completely awesome and Arsene must of wondered what the hell he had been doing the last ten years as Arsenal boss. Saints were sensational and its good to know he appreciates that. If we had had a leathal striker that day we would have been 5 up at half time and even Arsene would have taken that. . But we were one up. . Five mins into second half we were 1-2 down!!, what a night!!! And a great 2-2 draw. . Lets hope the new generation are even better. . We are all gonna watch with Interest Arsene. . If RonK gets it right I think you should be worried!!, Southampton FC are coming back even stronger!!! Coyrs
I called my wife at half time when Saints played Arsenal at St.Marys to tell her that in 45 years of watching Saints it was the best I had ever seen them play. They were completely awesome and Arsene must of wondered what the hell he had been doing the last ten years as Arsenal boss. Saints were sensational and its good to know he appreciates that. If we had had a leathal striker that day we would have been 5 up at half time and even Arsene would have taken that. . But we were one up. . Five mins into second half we were 1-2 down!!, what a night!!! And a great 2-2 draw. . Lets hope the new generation are even better. . We are all gonna watch with Interest Arsene. . If RonK gets it right I think you should be worried!!, Southampton FC are coming back even stronger!!! Coyrs St.David
  • Score: 31

5:14pm Fri 1 Aug 14

sparky130a says...

After the summer we've had i really don't care what any outsiders opinion is. Especially if they are in possession of a press pass!

The storm has (hopefully) been weathered and it's time to crack on with the new season and make a whole load of people eat their words...
After the summer we've had i really don't care what any outsiders opinion is. Especially if they are in possession of a press pass! The storm has (hopefully) been weathered and it's time to crack on with the new season and make a whole load of people eat their words... sparky130a
  • Score: 7

5:45pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Golden_Salamander says...

We were not that far from breaking into the Top4 last season.

We were THIRD towards the end of November and then suffered lots of injuries such that 5 of our back 7 (GK-4-2-3-1 system) were missing from the spurs home game. The back up players that came in at that time e.g Gazza, Hoover,Fox etc were not of the required standard, resulting in a record of 1w - 2d - 6L in the period end of Nov to the beginning of Jan.

During the season when fit our "first 11" showed that AW comments COULD have been correct in that we could compete with the best in the PL., However the squad needed at least 3 more quality players to maintain that challenge perhaps with hindsight the money spent on Dani would have been better spent on another couple of defenders and a GK.

IMO a missed opportunity last season (by Nicola) and THIS season by Kat .
We were not that far from breaking into the Top4 last season. We were THIRD towards the end of November and then suffered lots of injuries such that 5 of our back 7 (GK-4-2-3-1 system) were missing from the spurs home game. The back up players that came in at that time e.g Gazza, Hoover,Fox etc were not of the required standard, resulting in a record of 1w - 2d - 6L in the period end of Nov to the beginning of Jan. During the season when fit our "first 11" showed that AW comments COULD have been correct in that we could compete with the best in the PL., However the squad needed at least 3 more quality players to maintain that challenge perhaps with hindsight the money spent on Dani would have been better spent on another couple of defenders and a GK. IMO a missed opportunity last season (by Nicola) and THIS season by Kat . Golden_Salamander
  • Score: 1

5:47pm Fri 1 Aug 14

centre circle says...

WOW...what a difference in the mood and tone of these comments !!
I am so looking forward to the new season. If the staff and players are as optimistic as us.... anything is possible !!
Stuff the rest and .....COME ON YOU SAINTS !!!!
WOW...what a difference in the mood and tone of these comments !! I am so looking forward to the new season. If the staff and players are as optimistic as us.... anything is possible !! Stuff the rest and .....COME ON YOU SAINTS !!!! centre circle
  • Score: 10

5:56pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Mary80 says...

Is he stupid or something OF COURSE WE COULD WON but every bloody team keeps plundering ours for talent.
Is he stupid or something OF COURSE WE COULD WON but every bloody team keeps plundering ours for talent. Mary80
  • Score: 2

6:01pm Fri 1 Aug 14

smuggins says...

Arsenal could have won the Champions League if they had not sold their best players.Van Persie, Fabrigas,Henry,Viera etc.Its not only the little clubs that suffer.Loyal only to their Bank balances.
Arsenal could have won the Champions League if they had not sold their best players.Van Persie, Fabrigas,Henry,Viera etc.Its not only the little clubs that suffer.Loyal only to their Bank balances. smuggins
  • Score: 6

6:01pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Chapperall says...

Tadic looks a really good player and he and Pele will score goals. If we don't sell any more players the midfield is strong. It's the defence that worries me.
Hope we shore up the defence before the start of the season.
Tadic looks a really good player and he and Pele will score goals. If we don't sell any more players the midfield is strong. It's the defence that worries me. Hope we shore up the defence before the start of the season. Chapperall
  • Score: 9

6:08pm Fri 1 Aug 14

red/whitearmy says...

This coming from a manager who has won what in 7 years. I am so southampton all the way. I think we will do better this season.
This coming from a manager who has won what in 7 years. I am so southampton all the way. I think we will do better this season. red/whitearmy
  • Score: 3

6:08pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Enrico Palazzo says...

I am starting to worry a little about the DE and their willingness to trot out total non-stories every five minutes. You only have to google Southampton/Ronald Koeman in the news section and you get way more transfer stories than the DE ever reports! You can then google the names that come up to see even more! It's much more fun!
I am starting to worry a little about the DE and their willingness to trot out total non-stories every five minutes. You only have to google Southampton/Ronald Koeman in the news section and you get way more transfer stories than the DE ever reports! You can then google the names that come up to see even more! It's much more fun! Enrico Palazzo
  • Score: 7

6:17pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

Phase 2 Mate the team will be better watch out !
Phase 2 Mate the team will be better watch out ! Fatty x Ford Worker
  • Score: 3

6:20pm Fri 1 Aug 14

scorpioeyes says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies? scorpioeyes
  • Score: -15

6:23pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Deary me. Did you honestly read that last question before you wrote it?
[quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Deary me. Did you honestly read that last question before you wrote it? Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 6

6:24pm Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

He does look like the child catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang though. Put a black hat and black wig on him and give him a horse drawn carriage with bars on the back and a hand full of lollipops and he could run round the country stealing all the young talent from every club.....He does it anyway so why not make it entertaining at the same time!
He does look like the child catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang though. Put a black hat and black wig on him and give him a horse drawn carriage with bars on the back and a hand full of lollipops and he could run round the country stealing all the young talent from every club.....He does it anyway so why not make it entertaining at the same time! J7junctionseven
  • Score: -7

6:27pm Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

www.youtube.com/watc
h?v=zUnhfvGdmnw
www.youtube.com/watc h?v=zUnhfvGdmnw J7junctionseven
  • Score: -3

6:28pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Enrico Palazzo says...

scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!!
[quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!! Enrico Palazzo
  • Score: 5

6:31pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Gormzzz says...

He might look funny but he's prob not wrong, of course we had to sell them, I think he's just stating how good our academy is and the fact that we've brought through an amazing amount of players.. Walcott, Lallana, Bale, Chamberlain, JWP, Schneiderlin, Shaw, Chambers.. Two CB's and GK and we may well have brought through the greatest group of players in any English teams history. Will a good squad why could't a team that good win a Champions League, I wish Abramovich had brought us instead of Chelsea, we could have kept all the players because there was no FFP.
He might look funny but he's prob not wrong, of course we had to sell them, I think he's just stating how good our academy is and the fact that we've brought through an amazing amount of players.. Walcott, Lallana, Bale, Chamberlain, JWP, Schneiderlin, Shaw, Chambers.. Two CB's and GK and we may well have brought through the greatest group of players in any English teams history. Will a good squad why could't a team that good win a Champions League, I wish Abramovich had brought us instead of Chelsea, we could have kept all the players because there was no FFP. Gormzzz
  • Score: -1

6:33pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

Not interested ..................
Not interested .................. Buddy SFC
  • Score: 3

6:37pm Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Enrico Palazzo wrote:
scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!!
He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did.
Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!!
[quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!![/p][/quote]He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did. Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!! J7junctionseven
  • Score: 0

6:42pm Fri 1 Aug 14

justaSaintsfan says...

I think Arsene the Whinger's words may be sincere, although they seem somewhat patronising.

Over the years, Arsenilhampton have had the money of plenty of financial backers helping them, but their money has so far proved insufficient to buy success in the Champions League. They have also under achieved in English football, winning only the FA Cup last season. It was their first trophy in nine years!!!

So called Financial Fair Play is actually not fair play at all. Financial Faux Pas would even be too kind a name for it, as it it is a device for keeping the status quo of the biggest clubs remaining big and the smaller clubs having less chance to grow.

It is high time for a rule change to protect clubs such as SFC from being plundered of too many of their best players in one transfer window. One club should also not be permitted to buy more than one player in one transfer window from a club in the same League. That would be more like fair play!!!
I think Arsene the Whinger's words may be sincere, although they seem somewhat patronising. Over the years, Arsenilhampton have had the money of plenty of financial backers helping them, but their money has so far proved insufficient to buy success in the Champions League. They have also under achieved in English football, winning only the FA Cup last season. It was their first trophy in nine years!!! So called Financial Fair Play is actually not fair play at all. Financial Faux Pas would even be too kind a name for it, as it it is a device for keeping the status quo of the biggest clubs remaining big and the smaller clubs having less chance to grow. It is high time for a rule change to protect clubs such as SFC from being plundered of too many of their best players in one transfer window. One club should also not be permitted to buy more than one player in one transfer window from a club in the same League. That would be more like fair play!!! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: 10

6:45pm Fri 1 Aug 14

techsture says...

Very clever at scouting?

Scouting 9 year old cub scout games maybe, If you say something enough times people start to believe it this is where the "World class Scouting team at Southampton" Meme started.

Its just a Fable.

The usual standard of player brought in is Forte and N'Guisan. Its been going on for years. Perry Groves? David Speedie? need I go on..
Very clever at scouting? Scouting 9 year old cub scout games maybe, If you say something enough times people start to believe it this is where the "World class Scouting team at Southampton" Meme started. Its just a Fable. The usual standard of player brought in is Forte and N'Guisan. Its been going on for years. Perry Groves? David Speedie? need I go on.. techsture
  • Score: -18

6:49pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Thelma _wheeler41 says...

still think saints will turn things around. Could b better than last season (the duch way)
still think saints will turn things around. Could b better than last season (the duch way) Thelma _wheeler41
  • Score: 3

6:50pm Fri 1 Aug 14

fritzer says...

You are telling us some thing that we already are aware of Arsene, that's. why we have been p&%&%d off,
You are telling us some thing that we already are aware of Arsene, that's. why we have been p&%&%d off, fritzer
  • Score: 7

6:52pm Fri 1 Aug 14

echo1948 says...

I have heard a romour this afternoon that there is to be a protest at St. Mary,s tomorrow. Does anyone have any details?
I have heard a romour this afternoon that there is to be a protest at St. Mary,s tomorrow. Does anyone have any details? echo1948
  • Score: -20

6:59pm Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

techsture wrote:
Very clever at scouting?

Scouting 9 year old cub scout games maybe, If you say something enough times people start to believe it this is where the "World class Scouting team at Southampton" Meme started.

Its just a Fable.

The usual standard of player brought in is Forte and N'Guisan. Its been going on for years. Perry Groves? David Speedie? need I go on..
WTF are you on about?
[quote][p][bold]techsture[/bold] wrote: Very clever at scouting? Scouting 9 year old cub scout games maybe, If you say something enough times people start to believe it this is where the "World class Scouting team at Southampton" Meme started. Its just a Fable. The usual standard of player brought in is Forte and N'Guisan. Its been going on for years. Perry Groves? David Speedie? need I go on..[/p][/quote]WTF are you on about? J7junctionseven
  • Score: 7

7:01pm Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

echo1948 wrote:
I have heard a romour this afternoon that there is to be a protest at St. Mary,s tomorrow. Does anyone have any details?
I think it's rise of the foot soldier and a couple of his mates. I wouldn't take it to seriously.
[quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: I have heard a romour this afternoon that there is to be a protest at St. Mary,s tomorrow. Does anyone have any details?[/p][/quote]I think it's rise of the foot soldier and a couple of his mates. I wouldn't take it to seriously. J7junctionseven
  • Score: -4

7:09pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Enrico Palazzo says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!!
He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did.
Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!!
It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!![/p][/quote]He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did. Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!![/p][/quote]It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up. Enrico Palazzo
  • Score: 12

7:10pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Gormzzz says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
I have heard a romour this afternoon that there is to be a protest at St. Mary,s tomorrow. Does anyone have any details?
I think it's rise of the foot soldier and a couple of his mates. I wouldn't take it to seriously.
Don't think it's a bad thing, maybe it'll stop us bringing **** players in on loan and actually make the board start signing people. I wouldn't be spending my money if nobody was on my case about it, I'd keep selling players and leave it at that 'nobody minds' Someone needs to show the board how upset the fans are (they still are, Bertrand and Taider won't change that) pretty sure the board don't waste their time reading our comments so they probably don't know how we really feel, they just know we're unhappy because anybody would be. Even if Footsoldier gets nowhere at least he's passionate enough to try, if everybody sat back like you and just accepted things and looked for the positives then we'd have no team to support. Football wouldn't exist if all of the fans were as passionate as you.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: I have heard a romour this afternoon that there is to be a protest at St. Mary,s tomorrow. Does anyone have any details?[/p][/quote]I think it's rise of the foot soldier and a couple of his mates. I wouldn't take it to seriously.[/p][/quote]Don't think it's a bad thing, maybe it'll stop us bringing **** players in on loan and actually make the board start signing people. I wouldn't be spending my money if nobody was on my case about it, I'd keep selling players and leave it at that 'nobody minds' Someone needs to show the board how upset the fans are (they still are, Bertrand and Taider won't change that) pretty sure the board don't waste their time reading our comments so they probably don't know how we really feel, they just know we're unhappy because anybody would be. Even if Footsoldier gets nowhere at least he's passionate enough to try, if everybody sat back like you and just accepted things and looked for the positives then we'd have no team to support. Football wouldn't exist if all of the fans were as passionate as you. Gormzzz
  • Score: -11

7:17pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

Great article from Luke Henderson at FTB PRO ............

http://www.ftbpro.co
m/posts/luke.henders
on/1127908/why-south
ampton-fans-can-rema
in-positive-heading-
into-next-season

Good for all the NEGGIES to read .......... Funny how quite they may well go this week ahead !
Great article from Luke Henderson at FTB PRO ............ http://www.ftbpro.co m/posts/luke.henders on/1127908/why-south ampton-fans-can-rema in-positive-heading- into-next-season Good for all the NEGGIES to read .......... Funny how quite they may well go this week ahead ! Buddy SFC
  • Score: 6

7:19pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Enrico Palazzo says...

Buddy SFC wrote:
Great article from Luke Henderson at FTB PRO ............

http://www.ftbpro.co

m/posts/luke.henders

on/1127908/why-south

ampton-fans-can-rema

in-positive-heading-

into-next-season

Good for all the NEGGIES to read .......... Funny how quite they may well go this week ahead !
Yes, and where is our most favourite positive poster, Mr Osprey, when he should be out here enjoying himself?
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: Great article from Luke Henderson at FTB PRO ............ http://www.ftbpro.co m/posts/luke.henders on/1127908/why-south ampton-fans-can-rema in-positive-heading- into-next-season Good for all the NEGGIES to read .......... Funny how quite they may well go this week ahead ![/p][/quote]Yes, and where is our most favourite positive poster, Mr Osprey, when he should be out here enjoying himself? Enrico Palazzo
  • Score: 4

7:21pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Enrico Palazzo says...

Buddy SFC wrote:
Great article from Luke Henderson at FTB PRO ............

http://www.ftbpro.co

m/posts/luke.henders

on/1127908/why-south

ampton-fans-can-rema

in-positive-heading-

into-next-season

Good for all the NEGGIES to read .......... Funny how quite they may well go this week ahead !
Yes, and our favourite Mr Positive, Osprey, is not posting when he should be out here enjoying himself....
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: Great article from Luke Henderson at FTB PRO ............ http://www.ftbpro.co m/posts/luke.henders on/1127908/why-south ampton-fans-can-rema in-positive-heading- into-next-season Good for all the NEGGIES to read .......... Funny how quite they may well go this week ahead ![/p][/quote]Yes, and our favourite Mr Positive, Osprey, is not posting when he should be out here enjoying himself.... Enrico Palazzo
  • Score: 2

7:23pm Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Gormzzz wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
I have heard a romour this afternoon that there is to be a protest at St. Mary,s tomorrow. Does anyone have any details?
I think it's rise of the foot soldier and a couple of his mates. I wouldn't take it to seriously.
Don't think it's a bad thing, maybe it'll stop us bringing **** players in on loan and actually make the board start signing people. I wouldn't be spending my money if nobody was on my case about it, I'd keep selling players and leave it at that 'nobody minds' Someone needs to show the board how upset the fans are (they still are, Bertrand and Taider won't change that) pretty sure the board don't waste their time reading our comments so they probably don't know how we really feel, they just know we're unhappy because anybody would be. Even if Footsoldier gets nowhere at least he's passionate enough to try, if everybody sat back like you and just accepted things and looked for the positives then we'd have no team to support. Football wouldn't exist if all of the fans were as passionate as you.
You are a cheeky little boy aren't you.
I am very passionate about my club and life in general and you don't know me from Adam which gives you no right to assume I am any different from most Saints fans either on this forum or not.
I've seen some of your work on here lately along with the other idiot that has two dunnies and I don't believe you are all you make out to be.
You should save your opinions and judgement for things that you are clued up on and not just spew out your normal ****.
My comment about foot soldier was a tongue in cheek remark but I guess attention seeking tw@ts like you just aren't clever enough to understand.
[quote][p][bold]Gormzzz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: I have heard a romour this afternoon that there is to be a protest at St. Mary,s tomorrow. Does anyone have any details?[/p][/quote]I think it's rise of the foot soldier and a couple of his mates. I wouldn't take it to seriously.[/p][/quote]Don't think it's a bad thing, maybe it'll stop us bringing **** players in on loan and actually make the board start signing people. I wouldn't be spending my money if nobody was on my case about it, I'd keep selling players and leave it at that 'nobody minds' Someone needs to show the board how upset the fans are (they still are, Bertrand and Taider won't change that) pretty sure the board don't waste their time reading our comments so they probably don't know how we really feel, they just know we're unhappy because anybody would be. Even if Footsoldier gets nowhere at least he's passionate enough to try, if everybody sat back like you and just accepted things and looked for the positives then we'd have no team to support. Football wouldn't exist if all of the fans were as passionate as you.[/p][/quote]You are a cheeky little boy aren't you. I am very passionate about my club and life in general and you don't know me from Adam which gives you no right to assume I am any different from most Saints fans either on this forum or not. I've seen some of your work on here lately along with the other idiot that has two dunnies and I don't believe you are all you make out to be. You should save your opinions and judgement for things that you are clued up on and not just spew out your normal ****. My comment about foot soldier was a tongue in cheek remark but I guess attention seeking tw@ts like you just aren't clever enough to understand. J7junctionseven
  • Score: 0

7:26pm Fri 1 Aug 14

oldsaintsfan says...

Tony in Liberia wrote:
Ajax also have a brilliant youth system, arguably better than ours. Years ago it was enough to win the European Cup; now it's barely enough to get them out of the first group stage, because they can't keep their best players.

Unless we find a way to break the cartel, we will hit the same glass ceiling of the big 4 throwing ridiculous money at anyone we develop who is good enough.
With respect, as far as I can see, that is exactly what is happening. Unfortunately, with the current financial structure of football and without a saints fanatic who also happens to be a billionaire as club chairman, it is not clear to me how this will change in the future.
[quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: Ajax also have a brilliant youth system, arguably better than ours. Years ago it was enough to win the European Cup; now it's barely enough to get them out of the first group stage, because they can't keep their best players. Unless we find a way to break the cartel, we will hit the same glass ceiling of the big 4 throwing ridiculous money at anyone we develop who is good enough.[/p][/quote]With respect, as far as I can see, that is exactly what is happening. Unfortunately, with the current financial structure of football and without a saints fanatic who also happens to be a billionaire as club chairman, it is not clear to me how this will change in the future. oldsaintsfan
  • Score: 3

7:27pm Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!!
He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did.
Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!!
It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.
Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up
[quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!![/p][/quote]He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did. Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!![/p][/quote]It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.[/p][/quote]Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up J7junctionseven
  • Score: 1

7:29pm Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!!
He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did.
Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!!
It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.
Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up
Mmmmmeeeoowww.......
easy tiger don't get all flustered
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!![/p][/quote]He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did. Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!![/p][/quote]It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.[/p][/quote]Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up[/p][/quote]Mmmmmeeeoowww....... easy tiger don't get all flustered J7junctionseven
  • Score: -5

7:31pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Enrico Palazzo says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!!
He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did.
Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!!
It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.
Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up
Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!![/p][/quote]He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did. Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!![/p][/quote]It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.[/p][/quote]Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up[/p][/quote]Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on. Enrico Palazzo
  • Score: 11

7:31pm Fri 1 Aug 14

saintbobby says...

Now if he had said Saints could have won the FA. Cup last season if we had selected the best team to play Sunderland, then he might have had a point.

If he managed a team like us, then he would realise it is not necessarily easy to keep your best players. Years ago we needed the money and now the players WANT the money and be and others WILL pay it, so our position is fairly difficult in the context of winning Europe. But we still might - I like dreaming.
Now if he had said Saints could have won the FA. Cup last season if we had selected the best team to play Sunderland, then he might have had a point. If he managed a team like us, then he would realise it is not necessarily easy to keep your best players. Years ago we needed the money and now the players WANT the money and be and others WILL pay it, so our position is fairly difficult in the context of winning Europe. But we still might - I like dreaming. saintbobby
  • Score: 1

7:36pm Fri 1 Aug 14

spratt says...

scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Stupid comment. Just when we are beginning to see the bigger picture emerging and everyone feeling good about things again. Just hope KL has not read any of the foul remarks about her on these threads over the past weeks or she would surely have ditched the Club by now.
[quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Stupid comment. Just when we are beginning to see the bigger picture emerging and everyone feeling good about things again. Just hope KL has not read any of the foul remarks about her on these threads over the past weeks or she would surely have ditched the Club by now. spratt
  • Score: 12

7:37pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

spratt wrote:
scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Stupid comment. Just when we are beginning to see the bigger picture emerging and everyone feeling good about things again. Just hope KL has not read any of the foul remarks about her on these threads over the past weeks or she would surely have ditched the Club by now.
Spot on!
[quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Stupid comment. Just when we are beginning to see the bigger picture emerging and everyone feeling good about things again. Just hope KL has not read any of the foul remarks about her on these threads over the past weeks or she would surely have ditched the Club by now.[/p][/quote]Spot on! Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 10

7:38pm Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!!
He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did.
Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!!
It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.
Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up
Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.
I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it???
Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm
[quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!![/p][/quote]He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did. Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!![/p][/quote]It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.[/p][/quote]Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up[/p][/quote]Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.[/p][/quote]I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it??? Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm J7junctionseven
  • Score: -7

7:41pm Fri 1 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!!
He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did.
Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!!
It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.
Hello ..

GOOD GAME yesterday over 800 vocal Saints Fans - very good night out with a few beers - should try and get to the AWAY Games.

I agree with Nick Illingworth who is well respected - see below

"The fans have been willing to give the club the benefit of the doubt," said Nick Illingsworth, editor of 'The Ugly Inside' Saints fanzine. "A LOT OF BASIC MISTAKES have been made and I think the current hierarchy have underestimated the fact that they needed a STRONG LEADER.

"The fans are upset, of course they are. This is unprecedented. When you lose five players as we have there is bound to be uproar. What happens next is vital."

COYR+WS
[quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!![/p][/quote]He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did. Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!![/p][/quote]It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.[/p][/quote]Hello .. GOOD GAME yesterday over 800 vocal Saints Fans - very good night out with a few beers - should try and get to the AWAY Games. I agree with Nick Illingworth who is well respected - see below "The fans have been willing to give the club the benefit of the doubt," said Nick Illingsworth, editor of 'The Ugly Inside' Saints fanzine. "A LOT OF BASIC MISTAKES have been made and I think the current hierarchy have underestimated the fact that they needed a STRONG LEADER. "The fans are upset, of course they are. This is unprecedented. When you lose five players as we have there is bound to be uproar. What happens next is vital." COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 2

7:44pm Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!!
He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did.
Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!!
It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.
Hello ..

GOOD GAME yesterday over 800 vocal Saints Fans - very good night out with a few beers - should try and get to the AWAY Games.

I agree with Nick Illingworth who is well respected - see below

"The fans have been willing to give the club the benefit of the doubt," said Nick Illingsworth, editor of 'The Ugly Inside' Saints fanzine. "A LOT OF BASIC MISTAKES have been made and I think the current hierarchy have underestimated the fact that they needed a STRONG LEADER.

"The fans are upset, of course they are. This is unprecedented. When you lose five players as we have there is bound to be uproar. What happens next is vital."

COYR+WS
Rise - I think you need a chat with this gobsh1te EP he's talking a load of self opinionated sh!te as usual
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!![/p][/quote]He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did. Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!![/p][/quote]It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.[/p][/quote]Hello .. GOOD GAME yesterday over 800 vocal Saints Fans - very good night out with a few beers - should try and get to the AWAY Games. I agree with Nick Illingworth who is well respected - see below "The fans have been willing to give the club the benefit of the doubt," said Nick Illingsworth, editor of 'The Ugly Inside' Saints fanzine. "A LOT OF BASIC MISTAKES have been made and I think the current hierarchy have underestimated the fact that they needed a STRONG LEADER. "The fans are upset, of course they are. This is unprecedented. When you lose five players as we have there is bound to be uproar. What happens next is vital." COYR+WS[/p][/quote]Rise - I think you need a chat with this gobsh1te EP he's talking a load of self opinionated sh!te as usual J7junctionseven
  • Score: -3

7:46pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Enrico Palazzo says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!!
He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did.
Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!!
It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.
Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up
Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.
I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it???
Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm
Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice.

You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger.

I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!![/p][/quote]He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did. Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!![/p][/quote]It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.[/p][/quote]Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up[/p][/quote]Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.[/p][/quote]I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it??? Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm[/p][/quote]Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice. You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger. I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed. Enrico Palazzo
  • Score: 9

7:48pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Enrico Palazzo says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!!
He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did.
Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!!
It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.
Hello ..

GOOD GAME yesterday over 800 vocal Saints Fans - very good night out with a few beers - should try and get to the AWAY Games.

I agree with Nick Illingworth who is well respected - see below

"The fans have been willing to give the club the benefit of the doubt," said Nick Illingsworth, editor of 'The Ugly Inside' Saints fanzine. "A LOT OF BASIC MISTAKES have been made and I think the current hierarchy have underestimated the fact that they needed a STRONG LEADER.

"The fans are upset, of course they are. This is unprecedented. When you lose five players as we have there is bound to be uproar. What happens next is vital."

COYR+WS
Rise - I think you need a chat with this gobsh1te EP he's talking a load of self opinionated sh!te as usual
Yawn.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!![/p][/quote]He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did. Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!![/p][/quote]It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.[/p][/quote]Hello .. GOOD GAME yesterday over 800 vocal Saints Fans - very good night out with a few beers - should try and get to the AWAY Games. I agree with Nick Illingworth who is well respected - see below "The fans have been willing to give the club the benefit of the doubt," said Nick Illingsworth, editor of 'The Ugly Inside' Saints fanzine. "A LOT OF BASIC MISTAKES have been made and I think the current hierarchy have underestimated the fact that they needed a STRONG LEADER. "The fans are upset, of course they are. This is unprecedented. When you lose five players as we have there is bound to be uproar. What happens next is vital." COYR+WS[/p][/quote]Rise - I think you need a chat with this gobsh1te EP he's talking a load of self opinionated sh!te as usual[/p][/quote]Yawn. Enrico Palazzo
  • Score: 0

7:50pm Fri 1 Aug 14

thinklikealocal says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
spratt wrote:
scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Stupid comment. Just when we are beginning to see the bigger picture emerging and everyone feeling good about things again. Just hope KL has not read any of the foul remarks about her on these threads over the past weeks or she would surely have ditched the Club by now.
Spot on!
Absolutely. The number of potty mouthed idiots posting on here is a discredit to our club.
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Stupid comment. Just when we are beginning to see the bigger picture emerging and everyone feeling good about things again. Just hope KL has not read any of the foul remarks about her on these threads over the past weeks or she would surely have ditched the Club by now.[/p][/quote]Spot on![/p][/quote]Absolutely. The number of potty mouthed idiots posting on here is a discredit to our club. thinklikealocal
  • Score: 7

7:50pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

thinklikealocal wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
spratt wrote:
scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Stupid comment. Just when we are beginning to see the bigger picture emerging and everyone feeling good about things again. Just hope KL has not read any of the foul remarks about her on these threads over the past weeks or she would surely have ditched the Club by now.
Spot on!
Absolutely. The number of potty mouthed idiots posting on here is a discredit to our club.
See thread below for poof.
[quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Stupid comment. Just when we are beginning to see the bigger picture emerging and everyone feeling good about things again. Just hope KL has not read any of the foul remarks about her on these threads over the past weeks or she would surely have ditched the Club by now.[/p][/quote]Spot on![/p][/quote]Absolutely. The number of potty mouthed idiots posting on here is a discredit to our club.[/p][/quote]See thread below for poof. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 1

7:51pm Fri 1 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!!
He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did.
Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!!
It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.
Hello ..

GOOD GAME yesterday over 800 vocal Saints Fans - very good night out with a few beers - should try and get to the AWAY Games.

I agree with Nick Illingworth who is well respected - see below

"The fans have been willing to give the club the benefit of the doubt," said Nick Illingsworth, editor of 'The Ugly Inside' Saints fanzine. "A LOT OF BASIC MISTAKES have been made and I think the current hierarchy have underestimated the fact that they needed a STRONG LEADER.

"The fans are upset, of course they are. This is unprecedented. When you lose five players as we have there is bound to be uproar. What happens next is vital."

COYR+WS
Rise - I think you need a chat with this gobsh1te EP he's talking a load of self opinionated sh!te as usual
J7 - this guy is an argumentative WUM without any passion ... probably never goes to the hardcore AWAY games

f*ck him off and do not reply to his posts otherwise he will be at it all night. COYR+WS
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!![/p][/quote]He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did. Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!![/p][/quote]It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.[/p][/quote]Hello .. GOOD GAME yesterday over 800 vocal Saints Fans - very good night out with a few beers - should try and get to the AWAY Games. I agree with Nick Illingworth who is well respected - see below "The fans have been willing to give the club the benefit of the doubt," said Nick Illingsworth, editor of 'The Ugly Inside' Saints fanzine. "A LOT OF BASIC MISTAKES have been made and I think the current hierarchy have underestimated the fact that they needed a STRONG LEADER. "The fans are upset, of course they are. This is unprecedented. When you lose five players as we have there is bound to be uproar. What happens next is vital." COYR+WS[/p][/quote]Rise - I think you need a chat with this gobsh1te EP he's talking a load of self opinionated sh!te as usual[/p][/quote]J7 - this guy is an argumentative WUM without any passion ... probably never goes to the hardcore AWAY games f*ck him off and do not reply to his posts otherwise he will be at it all night. COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 2

7:53pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!!
He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did.
Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!!
It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.
Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up
Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.
I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it???
Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm
Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice.

You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger.

I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.
I, for one, agree with EP's sentiment here. I have seen some abhorrent stuff written on here recently. And what happens when people call it for what it is? They get abused themselves.
[quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!![/p][/quote]He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did. Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!![/p][/quote]It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.[/p][/quote]Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up[/p][/quote]Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.[/p][/quote]I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it??? Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm[/p][/quote]Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice. You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger. I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.[/p][/quote]I, for one, agree with EP's sentiment here. I have seen some abhorrent stuff written on here recently. And what happens when people call it for what it is? They get abused themselves. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 7

7:54pm Fri 1 Aug 14

thinklikealocal says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
spratt wrote:
scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Stupid comment. Just when we are beginning to see the bigger picture emerging and everyone feeling good about things again. Just hope KL has not read any of the foul remarks about her on these threads over the past weeks or she would surely have ditched the Club by now.
Spot on!
Absolutely. The number of potty mouthed idiots posting on here is a discredit to our club.
See thread below for poof.
Freudian slip? Love it...
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Stupid comment. Just when we are beginning to see the bigger picture emerging and everyone feeling good about things again. Just hope KL has not read any of the foul remarks about her on these threads over the past weeks or she would surely have ditched the Club by now.[/p][/quote]Spot on![/p][/quote]Absolutely. The number of potty mouthed idiots posting on here is a discredit to our club.[/p][/quote]See thread below for poof.[/p][/quote]Freudian slip? Love it... thinklikealocal
  • Score: 5

7:54pm Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!!
He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did.
Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!!
It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.
Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up
Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.
I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it???
Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm
Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice.

You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger.

I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.
Get out more and you'll see life in a different light. Don't take life to seriously and you'll see it in a different light. If that fails, take your self opinionated head out of your @rse and you'll see life in a different light.
That might bring you up to speed .
[quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!![/p][/quote]He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did. Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!![/p][/quote]It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.[/p][/quote]Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up[/p][/quote]Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.[/p][/quote]I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it??? Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm[/p][/quote]Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice. You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger. I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.[/p][/quote]Get out more and you'll see life in a different light. Don't take life to seriously and you'll see it in a different light. If that fails, take your self opinionated head out of your @rse and you'll see life in a different light. That might bring you up to speed . J7junctionseven
  • Score: -7

7:55pm Fri 1 Aug 14

thinklikealocal says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!!
He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did.
Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!!
It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.
Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up
Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.
I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it???
Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm
Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice.

You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger.

I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.
I, for one, agree with EP's sentiment here. I have seen some abhorrent stuff written on here recently. And what happens when people call it for what it is? They get abused themselves.
That's how bullies operate.
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!![/p][/quote]He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did. Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!![/p][/quote]It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.[/p][/quote]Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up[/p][/quote]Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.[/p][/quote]I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it??? Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm[/p][/quote]Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice. You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger. I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.[/p][/quote]I, for one, agree with EP's sentiment here. I have seen some abhorrent stuff written on here recently. And what happens when people call it for what it is? They get abused themselves.[/p][/quote]That's how bullies operate. thinklikealocal
  • Score: 3

7:59pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Enrico Palazzo says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!!
He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did.
Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!!
It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.
Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up
Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.
I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it???
Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm
Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice.

You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger.

I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.
Get out more and you'll see life in a different light. Don't take life to seriously and you'll see it in a different light. If that fails, take your self opinionated head out of your @rse and you'll see life in a different light.
That might bring you up to speed .
I am tired of people like you and foot soldier who refer to me as a WUM because I call you for what you are; ignorant, disgusting people. But don't think you can bully me off here, not for one minute - just coz my opinions don't involve name calling and slagging off everything that moves doesn't mean they don't count..

As for not attending 'hardcore' away games - that's some funny sh*t foot soldier right there - what does that even mean!?

I'm not going to dignify any of your posts again.

Now husssshhhhhhhh.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!![/p][/quote]He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did. Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!![/p][/quote]It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.[/p][/quote]Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up[/p][/quote]Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.[/p][/quote]I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it??? Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm[/p][/quote]Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice. You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger. I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.[/p][/quote]Get out more and you'll see life in a different light. Don't take life to seriously and you'll see it in a different light. If that fails, take your self opinionated head out of your @rse and you'll see life in a different light. That might bring you up to speed .[/p][/quote]I am tired of people like you and foot soldier who refer to me as a WUM because I call you for what you are; ignorant, disgusting people. But don't think you can bully me off here, not for one minute - just coz my opinions don't involve name calling and slagging off everything that moves doesn't mean they don't count.. As for not attending 'hardcore' away games - that's some funny sh*t foot soldier right there - what does that even mean!? I'm not going to dignify any of your posts again. Now husssshhhhhhhh. Enrico Palazzo
  • Score: 4

8:00pm Fri 1 Aug 14

thinklikealocal says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!!
He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did.
Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!!
It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.
Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up
Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.
I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it???
Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm
Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice.

You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger.

I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.
Get out more and you'll see life in a different light. Don't take life to seriously and you'll see it in a different light. If that fails, take your self opinionated head out of your @rse and you'll see life in a different light.
That might bring you up to speed .
Classic bully boy tactics.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!![/p][/quote]He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did. Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!![/p][/quote]It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.[/p][/quote]Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up[/p][/quote]Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.[/p][/quote]I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it??? Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm[/p][/quote]Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice. You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger. I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.[/p][/quote]Get out more and you'll see life in a different light. Don't take life to seriously and you'll see it in a different light. If that fails, take your self opinionated head out of your @rse and you'll see life in a different light. That might bring you up to speed .[/p][/quote]Classic bully boy tactics. thinklikealocal
  • Score: -4

8:02pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Redslo says...

SaintJD wrote:
Matt Le God wrote:
With all due respect, when did the gooners win champions league under Wenger.... What does he know?
I think he's trying to be complimentary. :) I'll tell him not to bother next time.
I think his statement amounts to a belief that Gareth Bale plus a group of quality players can contend for any title.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Matt Le God[/bold] wrote: With all due respect, when did the gooners win champions league under Wenger.... What does he know?[/p][/quote]I think he's trying to be complimentary. :) I'll tell him not to bother next time.[/p][/quote]I think his statement amounts to a belief that Gareth Bale plus a group of quality players can contend for any title. Redslo
  • Score: 0

8:03pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Enrico Palazzo says...

thinklikealocal wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!!
He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did.
Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!!
It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.
Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up
Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.
I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it???
Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm
Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice.

You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger.

I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.
Get out more and you'll see life in a different light. Don't take life to seriously and you'll see it in a different light. If that fails, take your self opinionated head out of your @rse and you'll see life in a different light.
That might bring you up to speed .
Classic bully boy tactics.
For what it's worth, thanks for the support. Think I've had enough of this though.
[quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!![/p][/quote]He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did. Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!![/p][/quote]It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.[/p][/quote]Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up[/p][/quote]Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.[/p][/quote]I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it??? Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm[/p][/quote]Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice. You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger. I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.[/p][/quote]Get out more and you'll see life in a different light. Don't take life to seriously and you'll see it in a different light. If that fails, take your self opinionated head out of your @rse and you'll see life in a different light. That might bring you up to speed .[/p][/quote]Classic bully boy tactics.[/p][/quote]For what it's worth, thanks for the support. Think I've had enough of this though. Enrico Palazzo
  • Score: 1

8:03pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Gormzzz says...

Not really, I've sen some of your comments, you aren't a real fan your happy with everything that has happened you've seen this so called 'bigger picture' our bright future. I had a right to comment and be **** off, most fans are (not to sure where all this 'board given benefit of the doubt' stuff has come from, they **** up and haven't rectified anything).. And it wasn't tongue in cheek, you we're just desperate for a few likes mate. I may not know you but the fact that you've accepted what has happened without blinking an eyelid shows me all I need to know about what type of Saints fan you are, the type who may love the Saints but knows nothing about football, you'd never protest against the board, the daughter of the man who saved your club would you, that's because you have no clue.
Not really, I've sen some of your comments, you aren't a real fan your happy with everything that has happened you've seen this so called 'bigger picture' our bright future. I had a right to comment and be **** off, most fans are (not to sure where all this 'board given benefit of the doubt' stuff has come from, they **** up and haven't rectified anything).. And it wasn't tongue in cheek, you we're just desperate for a few likes mate. I may not know you but the fact that you've accepted what has happened without blinking an eyelid shows me all I need to know about what type of Saints fan you are, the type who may love the Saints but knows nothing about football, you'd never protest against the board, the daughter of the man who saved your club would you, that's because you have no clue. Gormzzz
  • Score: -9

8:04pm Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!!
He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did.
Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!!
It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.
Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up
Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.
I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it???
Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm
Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice.

You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger.

I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.
I, for one, agree with EP's sentiment here. I have seen some abhorrent stuff written on here recently. And what happens when people call it for what it is? They get abused themselves.
Condescending, self righteous and self opinionated remarks often fan the flames and deservedly get the response they should. Continued condescending remarks often get peoples backs up and are also subject to an even more agitated response.
Keep it up and you will reap what you sow
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!![/p][/quote]He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did. Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!![/p][/quote]It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.[/p][/quote]Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up[/p][/quote]Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.[/p][/quote]I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it??? Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm[/p][/quote]Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice. You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger. I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.[/p][/quote]I, for one, agree with EP's sentiment here. I have seen some abhorrent stuff written on here recently. And what happens when people call it for what it is? They get abused themselves.[/p][/quote]Condescending, self righteous and self opinionated remarks often fan the flames and deservedly get the response they should. Continued condescending remarks often get peoples backs up and are also subject to an even more agitated response. Keep it up and you will reap what you sow J7junctionseven
  • Score: 2

8:05pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Gormzzz says...

Further more why does everybody stop talking about Southampton and just talk **** about who's a WUM after 50 comments. We're all WUM's because we all disagree END OF!! if he winds you up then logically your probably doing the same thing to him, people get wound up when they disagree.
Further more why does everybody stop talking about Southampton and just talk **** about who's a WUM after 50 comments. We're all WUM's because we all disagree END OF!! if he winds you up then logically your probably doing the same thing to him, people get wound up when they disagree. Gormzzz
  • Score: -4

8:05pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Gormzzz says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Gormzzz wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
I have heard a romour this afternoon that there is to be a protest at St. Mary,s tomorrow. Does anyone have any details?
I think it's rise of the foot soldier and a couple of his mates. I wouldn't take it to seriously.
Don't think it's a bad thing, maybe it'll stop us bringing **** players in on loan and actually make the board start signing people. I wouldn't be spending my money if nobody was on my case about it, I'd keep selling players and leave it at that 'nobody minds' Someone needs to show the board how upset the fans are (they still are, Bertrand and Taider won't change that) pretty sure the board don't waste their time reading our comments so they probably don't know how we really feel, they just know we're unhappy because anybody would be. Even if Footsoldier gets nowhere at least he's passionate enough to try, if everybody sat back like you and just accepted things and looked for the positives then we'd have no team to support. Football wouldn't exist if all of the fans were as passionate as you.
You are a cheeky little boy aren't you.
I am very passionate about my club and life in general and you don't know me from Adam which gives you no right to assume I am any different from most Saints fans either on this forum or not.
I've seen some of your work on here lately along with the other idiot that has two dunnies and I don't believe you are all you make out to be.
You should save your opinions and judgement for things that you are clued up on and not just spew out your normal ****.
My comment about foot soldier was a tongue in cheek remark but I guess attention seeking tw@ts like you just aren't clever enough to understand.
Not really, I've sen some of your comments, you aren't a real fan your happy with everything that has happened you've seen this so called 'bigger picture' our bright future. I had a right to comment and be **** off, most fans are (not to sure where all this 'board given benefit of the doubt' stuff has come from, they **** up and haven't rectified anything).. And it wasn't tongue in cheek, you we're just desperate for a few likes mate. I may not know you but the fact that you've accepted what has happened without blinking an eyelid shows me all I need to know about what type of Saints fan you are, the type who may love the Saints but knows nothing about football, you'd never protest against the board, the daughter of the man who saved your club would you, that's because you have no clue.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gormzzz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: I have heard a romour this afternoon that there is to be a protest at St. Mary,s tomorrow. Does anyone have any details?[/p][/quote]I think it's rise of the foot soldier and a couple of his mates. I wouldn't take it to seriously.[/p][/quote]Don't think it's a bad thing, maybe it'll stop us bringing **** players in on loan and actually make the board start signing people. I wouldn't be spending my money if nobody was on my case about it, I'd keep selling players and leave it at that 'nobody minds' Someone needs to show the board how upset the fans are (they still are, Bertrand and Taider won't change that) pretty sure the board don't waste their time reading our comments so they probably don't know how we really feel, they just know we're unhappy because anybody would be. Even if Footsoldier gets nowhere at least he's passionate enough to try, if everybody sat back like you and just accepted things and looked for the positives then we'd have no team to support. Football wouldn't exist if all of the fans were as passionate as you.[/p][/quote]You are a cheeky little boy aren't you. I am very passionate about my club and life in general and you don't know me from Adam which gives you no right to assume I am any different from most Saints fans either on this forum or not. I've seen some of your work on here lately along with the other idiot that has two dunnies and I don't believe you are all you make out to be. You should save your opinions and judgement for things that you are clued up on and not just spew out your normal ****. My comment about foot soldier was a tongue in cheek remark but I guess attention seeking tw@ts like you just aren't clever enough to understand.[/p][/quote]Not really, I've sen some of your comments, you aren't a real fan your happy with everything that has happened you've seen this so called 'bigger picture' our bright future. I had a right to comment and be **** off, most fans are (not to sure where all this 'board given benefit of the doubt' stuff has come from, they **** up and haven't rectified anything).. And it wasn't tongue in cheek, you we're just desperate for a few likes mate. I may not know you but the fact that you've accepted what has happened without blinking an eyelid shows me all I need to know about what type of Saints fan you are, the type who may love the Saints but knows nothing about football, you'd never protest against the board, the daughter of the man who saved your club would you, that's because you have no clue. Gormzzz
  • Score: 1

8:06pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Gormzzz says...

Further more why does everybody stop talking about Southampton and just talk **** about who's a WUM after 50 comments. We're all WUM's because we all disagree END OF!! if he winds you up then logically your probably doing the same thing to him, people get wound up when they disagree.
Further more why does everybody stop talking about Southampton and just talk **** about who's a WUM after 50 comments. We're all WUM's because we all disagree END OF!! if he winds you up then logically your probably doing the same thing to him, people get wound up when they disagree. Gormzzz
  • Score: -4

8:08pm Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Gormzzz wrote:
Not really, I've sen some of your comments, you aren't a real fan your happy with everything that has happened you've seen this so called 'bigger picture' our bright future. I had a right to comment and be **** off, most fans are (not to sure where all this 'board given benefit of the doubt' stuff has come from, they **** up and haven't rectified anything).. And it wasn't tongue in cheek, you we're just desperate for a few likes mate. I may not know you but the fact that you've accepted what has happened without blinking an eyelid shows me all I need to know about what type of Saints fan you are, the type who may love the Saints but knows nothing about football, you'd never protest against the board, the daughter of the man who saved your club would you, that's because you have no clue.
You are nearly as boring as EP.......no wait, you are easily as boring as she is
[quote][p][bold]Gormzzz[/bold] wrote: Not really, I've sen some of your comments, you aren't a real fan your happy with everything that has happened you've seen this so called 'bigger picture' our bright future. I had a right to comment and be **** off, most fans are (not to sure where all this 'board given benefit of the doubt' stuff has come from, they **** up and haven't rectified anything).. And it wasn't tongue in cheek, you we're just desperate for a few likes mate. I may not know you but the fact that you've accepted what has happened without blinking an eyelid shows me all I need to know about what type of Saints fan you are, the type who may love the Saints but knows nothing about football, you'd never protest against the board, the daughter of the man who saved your club would you, that's because you have no clue.[/p][/quote]You are nearly as boring as EP.......no wait, you are easily as boring as she is J7junctionseven
  • Score: -7

8:09pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!!
He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did.
Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!!
It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.
Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up
Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.
I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it???
Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm
Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice.

You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger.

I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.
I, for one, agree with EP's sentiment here. I have seen some abhorrent stuff written on here recently. And what happens when people call it for what it is? They get abused themselves.
Condescending, self righteous and self opinionated remarks often fan the flames and deservedly get the response they should. Continued condescending remarks often get peoples backs up and are also subject to an even more agitated response.
Keep it up and you will reap what you sow
Is that a threat?
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!![/p][/quote]He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did. Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!![/p][/quote]It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.[/p][/quote]Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up[/p][/quote]Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.[/p][/quote]I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it??? Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm[/p][/quote]Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice. You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger. I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.[/p][/quote]I, for one, agree with EP's sentiment here. I have seen some abhorrent stuff written on here recently. And what happens when people call it for what it is? They get abused themselves.[/p][/quote]Condescending, self righteous and self opinionated remarks often fan the flames and deservedly get the response they should. Continued condescending remarks often get peoples backs up and are also subject to an even more agitated response. Keep it up and you will reap what you sow[/p][/quote]Is that a threat? Frankie Bennett
  • Score: -2

8:10pm Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

thinklikealocal wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!!
He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did.
Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!!
It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.
Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up
Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.
I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it???
Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm
Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice.

You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger.

I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.
Get out more and you'll see life in a different light. Don't take life to seriously and you'll see it in a different light. If that fails, take your self opinionated head out of your @rse and you'll see life in a different light.
That might bring you up to speed .
Classic bully boy tactics.
Bad time at school ?
[quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!![/p][/quote]He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did. Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!![/p][/quote]It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.[/p][/quote]Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up[/p][/quote]Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.[/p][/quote]I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it??? Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm[/p][/quote]Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice. You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger. I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.[/p][/quote]Get out more and you'll see life in a different light. Don't take life to seriously and you'll see it in a different light. If that fails, take your self opinionated head out of your @rse and you'll see life in a different light. That might bring you up to speed .[/p][/quote]Classic bully boy tactics.[/p][/quote]Bad time at school ? J7junctionseven
  • Score: 4

8:12pm Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!!
He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did.
Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!!
It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.
Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up
Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.
I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it???
Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm
Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice.

You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger.

I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.
I, for one, agree with EP's sentiment here. I have seen some abhorrent stuff written on here recently. And what happens when people call it for what it is? They get abused themselves.
Condescending, self righteous and self opinionated remarks often fan the flames and deservedly get the response they should. Continued condescending remarks often get peoples backs up and are also subject to an even more agitated response.
Keep it up and you will reap what you sow
Is that a threat?
Not really a threat. Just an observation and opinion on how to avoid getting all upset and whinging about what other people have to say.
Why?
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!![/p][/quote]He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did. Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!![/p][/quote]It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.[/p][/quote]Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up[/p][/quote]Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.[/p][/quote]I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it??? Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm[/p][/quote]Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice. You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger. I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.[/p][/quote]I, for one, agree with EP's sentiment here. I have seen some abhorrent stuff written on here recently. And what happens when people call it for what it is? They get abused themselves.[/p][/quote]Condescending, self righteous and self opinionated remarks often fan the flames and deservedly get the response they should. Continued condescending remarks often get peoples backs up and are also subject to an even more agitated response. Keep it up and you will reap what you sow[/p][/quote]Is that a threat?[/p][/quote]Not really a threat. Just an observation and opinion on how to avoid getting all upset and whinging about what other people have to say. Why? J7junctionseven
  • Score: -2

8:16pm Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

PC POLICE are out in force tonight aren't they.........how sad
PC POLICE are out in force tonight aren't they.........how sad J7junctionseven
  • Score: 7

8:19pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!!
He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did.
Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!!
It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.
Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up
Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.
I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it???
Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm
Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice.

You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger.

I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.
I, for one, agree with EP's sentiment here. I have seen some abhorrent stuff written on here recently. And what happens when people call it for what it is? They get abused themselves.
Condescending, self righteous and self opinionated remarks often fan the flames and deservedly get the response they should. Continued condescending remarks often get peoples backs up and are also subject to an even more agitated response.
Keep it up and you will reap what you sow
Is that a threat?
Not really a threat. Just an observation and opinion on how to avoid getting all upset and whinging about what other people have to say.
Why?
Because it sure did sound like one and you really should be careful as you do sound a lot like a bully. Thanx for all the sage advice, but I think I'll make my own way around this site if it's all the same to you. Reply to this if you feel the need, but don't ever expect a response.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!![/p][/quote]He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did. Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!![/p][/quote]It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.[/p][/quote]Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up[/p][/quote]Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.[/p][/quote]I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it??? Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm[/p][/quote]Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice. You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger. I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.[/p][/quote]I, for one, agree with EP's sentiment here. I have seen some abhorrent stuff written on here recently. And what happens when people call it for what it is? They get abused themselves.[/p][/quote]Condescending, self righteous and self opinionated remarks often fan the flames and deservedly get the response they should. Continued condescending remarks often get peoples backs up and are also subject to an even more agitated response. Keep it up and you will reap what you sow[/p][/quote]Is that a threat?[/p][/quote]Not really a threat. Just an observation and opinion on how to avoid getting all upset and whinging about what other people have to say. Why?[/p][/quote]Because it sure did sound like one and you really should be careful as you do sound a lot like a bully. Thanx for all the sage advice, but I think I'll make my own way around this site if it's all the same to you. Reply to this if you feel the need, but don't ever expect a response. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 2

8:25pm Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!!
He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did.
Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!!
It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.
Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up
Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.
I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it???
Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm
Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice.

You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger.

I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.
I, for one, agree with EP's sentiment here. I have seen some abhorrent stuff written on here recently. And what happens when people call it for what it is? They get abused themselves.
Condescending, self righteous and self opinionated remarks often fan the flames and deservedly get the response they should. Continued condescending remarks often get peoples backs up and are also subject to an even more agitated response.
Keep it up and you will reap what you sow
Is that a threat?
Not really a threat. Just an observation and opinion on how to avoid getting all upset and whinging about what other people have to say.
Why?
Because it sure did sound like one and you really should be careful as you do sound a lot like a bully. Thanx for all the sage advice, but I think I'll make my own way around this site if it's all the same to you. Reply to this if you feel the need, but don't ever expect a response.
I think you and the PC gang sound more like the bullies and maybe you should also try not to take life so seriously and get a life
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!![/p][/quote]He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did. Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!![/p][/quote]It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.[/p][/quote]Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up[/p][/quote]Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.[/p][/quote]I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it??? Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm[/p][/quote]Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice. You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger. I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.[/p][/quote]I, for one, agree with EP's sentiment here. I have seen some abhorrent stuff written on here recently. And what happens when people call it for what it is? They get abused themselves.[/p][/quote]Condescending, self righteous and self opinionated remarks often fan the flames and deservedly get the response they should. Continued condescending remarks often get peoples backs up and are also subject to an even more agitated response. Keep it up and you will reap what you sow[/p][/quote]Is that a threat?[/p][/quote]Not really a threat. Just an observation and opinion on how to avoid getting all upset and whinging about what other people have to say. Why?[/p][/quote]Because it sure did sound like one and you really should be careful as you do sound a lot like a bully. Thanx for all the sage advice, but I think I'll make my own way around this site if it's all the same to you. Reply to this if you feel the need, but don't ever expect a response.[/p][/quote]I think you and the PC gang sound more like the bullies and maybe you should also try not to take life so seriously and get a life J7junctionseven
  • Score: -4

8:27pm Fri 1 Aug 14

petethephantom says...

and I could have won the lottery if I had brought a ticket
and I could have won the lottery if I had brought a ticket petethephantom
  • Score: 4

8:36pm Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

petethephantom wrote:
and I could have won the lottery if I had brought a ticket
Good luck tomorrow
[quote][p][bold]petethephantom[/bold] wrote: and I could have won the lottery if I had brought a ticket[/p][/quote]Good luck tomorrow J7junctionseven
  • Score: 3

8:47pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Sammy2sheds says...

Malcombe wrote:
What of load of rubbish to spout, he's one of the Managers who notoriously stabs other Premiership Managers in the back snide comments and by tapping up Players he wants while he's on his holiday in Brazil, holiday my backside that was his excuse, he was on a mission to recruit Players he knew performed out of there skin last season and probably got them to reveal what Salary they were on and would certainly dangle the carrot with an increase that Southampton would not extend to, Wenger couldn't give a toss about anyone except himself, he probably shared the same Hotel as The Deceitful Liar and Brendan Rodgers and they too were there to poach Premiership Players.
Gone are the days of decency and respect to other Clubs if a Manager wants a certain Player from any Premiership Club he contacts the Club, everything's done by the back door including slimy Agents who pretend to be honest but in truth want to boost there own Bank Accounts.
This week news of the Owners of Man U who are pretending to be rich when in truth they are up to there eyeballs in debt and squabbling about who deserves more of the money in the Club, this is a family at war who want to plunder the Clubs finances, they really cannot afford to pay these high Salaries to Players but because they are Manchester United they have to keep up appearances and live beyond there means, this is why they wanted to bury there heads in the sand and top there selves after missing out of the Top 6 and CLF last season, of course Southampton Supporters really do sympathise with Man U as there Supporters do about Southampton, I don't think so not along as we have a hole in our backside, Southampton FC are more important than any other Club to all the loyal Saints Supporters and excitement is now building up with only just over 2 weeks to go, after seeing the last 2 friendlies Saints are looking good and will be ready for Liverpool with we hope a surprise result after the final whistle, come on you lovely Supporters be happy and optimistic as Liverpool Supporters probably already believe that there Team is a goal up, we shall see!!
No he was spot on
How was he wrong? He wasn't.
[quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: What of load of rubbish to spout, he's one of the Managers who notoriously stabs other Premiership Managers in the back snide comments and by tapping up Players he wants while he's on his holiday in Brazil, holiday my backside that was his excuse, he was on a mission to recruit Players he knew performed out of there skin last season and probably got them to reveal what Salary they were on and would certainly dangle the carrot with an increase that Southampton would not extend to, Wenger couldn't give a toss about anyone except himself, he probably shared the same Hotel as The Deceitful Liar and Brendan Rodgers and they too were there to poach Premiership Players. Gone are the days of decency and respect to other Clubs if a Manager wants a certain Player from any Premiership Club he contacts the Club, everything's done by the back door including slimy Agents who pretend to be honest but in truth want to boost there own Bank Accounts. This week news of the Owners of Man U who are pretending to be rich when in truth they are up to there eyeballs in debt and squabbling about who deserves more of the money in the Club, this is a family at war who want to plunder the Clubs finances, they really cannot afford to pay these high Salaries to Players but because they are Manchester United they have to keep up appearances and live beyond there means, this is why they wanted to bury there heads in the sand and top there selves after missing out of the Top 6 and CLF last season, of course Southampton Supporters really do sympathise with Man U as there Supporters do about Southampton, I don't think so not along as we have a hole in our backside, Southampton FC are more important than any other Club to all the loyal Saints Supporters and excitement is now building up with only just over 2 weeks to go, after seeing the last 2 friendlies Saints are looking good and will be ready for Liverpool with we hope a surprise result after the final whistle, come on you lovely Supporters be happy and optimistic as Liverpool Supporters probably already believe that there Team is a goal up, we shall see!![/p][/quote]No he was spot on How was he wrong? He wasn't. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: -3

8:54pm Fri 1 Aug 14

thinklikealocal says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!!
He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did.
Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!!
It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.
Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up
Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.
I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it???
Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm
Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice.

You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger.

I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.
Get out more and you'll see life in a different light. Don't take life to seriously and you'll see it in a different light. If that fails, take your self opinionated head out of your @rse and you'll see life in a different light.
That might bring you up to speed .
Classic bully boy tactics.
Bad time at school ?
Not at all. Just see it as it is.

I'm sure a Psychologist could attribute it to some syndrome, or some life altering experience, however, I prefer to put it in the category of 'some little boys just never grow up and become real men'.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!![/p][/quote]He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did. Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!![/p][/quote]It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.[/p][/quote]Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up[/p][/quote]Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.[/p][/quote]I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it??? Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm[/p][/quote]Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice. You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger. I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.[/p][/quote]Get out more and you'll see life in a different light. Don't take life to seriously and you'll see it in a different light. If that fails, take your self opinionated head out of your @rse and you'll see life in a different light. That might bring you up to speed .[/p][/quote]Classic bully boy tactics.[/p][/quote]Bad time at school ?[/p][/quote]Not at all. Just see it as it is. I'm sure a Psychologist could attribute it to some syndrome, or some life altering experience, however, I prefer to put it in the category of 'some little boys just never grow up and become real men'. thinklikealocal
  • Score: 3

8:56pm Fri 1 Aug 14

thinklikealocal says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!!
He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did.
Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!!
It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.
Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up
Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.
I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it???
Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm
Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice.

You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger.

I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.
I, for one, agree with EP's sentiment here. I have seen some abhorrent stuff written on here recently. And what happens when people call it for what it is? They get abused themselves.
Condescending, self righteous and self opinionated remarks often fan the flames and deservedly get the response they should. Continued condescending remarks often get peoples backs up and are also subject to an even more agitated response.
Keep it up and you will reap what you sow
Is that a threat?
Not really a threat. Just an observation and opinion on how to avoid getting all upset and whinging about what other people have to say.
Why?
Because it sure did sound like one and you really should be careful as you do sound a lot like a bully. Thanx for all the sage advice, but I think I'll make my own way around this site if it's all the same to you. Reply to this if you feel the need, but don't ever expect a response.
I think you and the PC gang sound more like the bullies and maybe you should also try not to take life so seriously and get a life
I thought it was a threat when I read it....
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!![/p][/quote]He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did. Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!![/p][/quote]It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.[/p][/quote]Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up[/p][/quote]Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.[/p][/quote]I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it??? Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm[/p][/quote]Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice. You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger. I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.[/p][/quote]I, for one, agree with EP's sentiment here. I have seen some abhorrent stuff written on here recently. And what happens when people call it for what it is? They get abused themselves.[/p][/quote]Condescending, self righteous and self opinionated remarks often fan the flames and deservedly get the response they should. Continued condescending remarks often get peoples backs up and are also subject to an even more agitated response. Keep it up and you will reap what you sow[/p][/quote]Is that a threat?[/p][/quote]Not really a threat. Just an observation and opinion on how to avoid getting all upset and whinging about what other people have to say. Why?[/p][/quote]Because it sure did sound like one and you really should be careful as you do sound a lot like a bully. Thanx for all the sage advice, but I think I'll make my own way around this site if it's all the same to you. Reply to this if you feel the need, but don't ever expect a response.[/p][/quote]I think you and the PC gang sound more like the bullies and maybe you should also try not to take life so seriously and get a life[/p][/quote]I thought it was a threat when I read it.... thinklikealocal
  • Score: 2

8:57pm Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Ignore FFS
Ignore FFS J7junctionseven
  • Score: -3

8:58pm Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

So what if you did.....no one cares what you think
So what if you did.....no one cares what you think J7junctionseven
  • Score: -5

8:59pm Fri 1 Aug 14

thinklikealocal says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!!
He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did.
Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!!
It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.
Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up
Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.
I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it???
Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm
Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice.

You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger.

I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.
I, for one, agree with EP's sentiment here. I have seen some abhorrent stuff written on here recently. And what happens when people call it for what it is? They get abused themselves.
Condescending, self righteous and self opinionated remarks often fan the flames and deservedly get the response they should. Continued condescending remarks often get peoples backs up and are also subject to an even more agitated response.
Keep it up and you will reap what you sow
Is that a threat?
Not really a threat. Just an observation and opinion on how to avoid getting all upset and whinging about what other people have to say.
Why?
Because it sure did sound like one and you really should be careful as you do sound a lot like a bully. Thanx for all the sage advice, but I think I'll make my own way around this site if it's all the same to you. Reply to this if you feel the need, but don't ever expect a response.
I think you and the PC gang sound more like the bullies and maybe you should also try not to take life so seriously and get a life
So getting a life is spouting a load of foul mouthed offensive garbage is it? What a funny take on things you have.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!![/p][/quote]He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did. Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!![/p][/quote]It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.[/p][/quote]Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up[/p][/quote]Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.[/p][/quote]I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it??? Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm[/p][/quote]Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice. You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger. I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.[/p][/quote]I, for one, agree with EP's sentiment here. I have seen some abhorrent stuff written on here recently. And what happens when people call it for what it is? They get abused themselves.[/p][/quote]Condescending, self righteous and self opinionated remarks often fan the flames and deservedly get the response they should. Continued condescending remarks often get peoples backs up and are also subject to an even more agitated response. Keep it up and you will reap what you sow[/p][/quote]Is that a threat?[/p][/quote]Not really a threat. Just an observation and opinion on how to avoid getting all upset and whinging about what other people have to say. Why?[/p][/quote]Because it sure did sound like one and you really should be careful as you do sound a lot like a bully. Thanx for all the sage advice, but I think I'll make my own way around this site if it's all the same to you. Reply to this if you feel the need, but don't ever expect a response.[/p][/quote]I think you and the PC gang sound more like the bullies and maybe you should also try not to take life so seriously and get a life[/p][/quote]So getting a life is spouting a load of foul mouthed offensive garbage is it? What a funny take on things you have. thinklikealocal
  • Score: 3

8:59pm Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Paranoid PC Police ...OMG we're all doomed
Paranoid PC Police ...OMG we're all doomed J7junctionseven
  • Score: -3

9:00pm Fri 1 Aug 14

thinklikealocal says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
So what if you did.....no one cares what you think
Ditto.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: So what if you did.....no one cares what you think[/p][/quote]Ditto. thinklikealocal
  • Score: 0

9:00pm Fri 1 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
scorpioeyes wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS
You are being sarcastic i take it!

in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?
Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!!
He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did.
Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!!
It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.
Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up
Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.
I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it???
Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm
Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice.

You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger.

I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.
Get out more and you'll see life in a different light. Don't take life to seriously and you'll see it in a different light. If that fails, take your self opinionated head out of your @rse and you'll see life in a different light.
That might bring you up to speed .
I am tired of people like you and foot soldier who refer to me as a WUM because I call you for what you are; ignorant, disgusting people. But don't think you can bully me off here, not for one minute - just coz my opinions don't involve name calling and slagging off everything that moves doesn't mean they don't count..

As for not attending 'hardcore' away games - that's some funny sh*t foot soldier right there - what does that even mean!?

I'm not going to dignify any of your posts again.

Now husssshhhhhhhh.
WE ARE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.

RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN.
WE HATE POMPEY
[quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This Board at last is able to say NO and not keep grabbing money offers that are put in front of them. ..... COYR&WS[/p][/quote]You are being sarcastic i take it! in the past we had to sell to survive,so whats the excuse now for selling our top players? frau leibherr running out of money for pies?[/p][/quote]Scorpio has a pop at foot soldier and then pops in a 'FatKat' comment at the end - oh the irony, the irony!![/p][/quote]He didn't actually say "FatKat" though did he ..........you did. Oh the contradiction, the contradiction!![/p][/quote]It is Foot Soldier who says 'FatKat,' hence the irony. Keep up.[/p][/quote]Not in the comment you quoted on ........keep up[/p][/quote]Jeeeeeez. You are right, but if you read his regularly disgusting posts (go back a couple of days) you will see he uses this phrase all the time and I've pulled him up on it, hence the irony. Now please try to keep up, and if you can't, just jog on.[/p][/quote]I haven't read his posts from a couple of days ago only this one so I've only seen it in your post. Thing that get's me is if it's so disgusting why are you repeating it??? Also who the f@ck do you think you are you sad worm[/p][/quote]Enough. I am sick and tired of people coming on here and abusing our owners and benefactors - some of the disgusting drivel I've seen written on here beggars belief. If you want to condone it then it's fine, that's you choice. You got caught in the crossfire today trying to be clever, and it was you having a pop at me that stared this, not the other way round. You also mad some ridiculous child catcher' comment earlier about Arsene Wenger. I understand you made a mistake trying to get a cheap laugh and no hard feelings, but don't think to come on here and hurl abuse coz that puts you right down at there level. Hope that gets you up to speed.[/p][/quote]Get out more and you'll see life in a different light. Don't take life to seriously and you'll see it in a different light. If that fails, take your self opinionated head out of your @rse and you'll see life in a different light. That might bring you up to speed .[/p][/quote]I am tired of people like you and foot soldier who refer to me as a WUM because I call you for what you are; ignorant, disgusting people. But don't think you can bully me off here, not for one minute - just coz my opinions don't involve name calling and slagging off everything that moves doesn't mean they don't count.. As for not attending 'hardcore' away games - that's some funny sh*t foot soldier right there - what does that even mean!? I'm not going to dignify any of your posts again. Now husssshhhhhhhh.[/p][/quote]WE ARE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON. RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN. WE HATE POMPEY The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: -116

9:03pm Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

thinklikealocal wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
So what if you did.....no one cares what you think
Ditto.
Mmmmeeeooowwwwwww...
......
[quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: So what if you did.....no one cares what you think[/p][/quote]Ditto.[/p][/quote]Mmmmeeeooowwwwwww... ...... J7junctionseven
  • Score: -4

9:04pm Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

I think somebody want's a bit of attention....bless
I think somebody want's a bit of attention....bless J7junctionseven
  • Score: -3

9:10pm Fri 1 Aug 14

thinklikealocal says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
I think somebody want's a bit of attention....bless
If that's what you want, best get yourself up A and E , if you have 10 hours to spare that is. That five in the queue waiting to be assessed and 5 in the MRI suite whilst they try to locate something inside your skull :)

By midnight the place will be absolutely teeming with Southampton's finest and I'm sure you'll find plenty of people to have an on your level' conversation with :)
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: I think somebody want's a bit of attention....bless[/p][/quote]If that's what you want, best get yourself up A and E , if you have 10 hours to spare that is. That five in the queue waiting to be assessed and 5 in the MRI suite whilst they try to locate something inside your skull :) By midnight the place will be absolutely teeming with Southampton's finest and I'm sure you'll find plenty of people to have an on your level' conversation with :) thinklikealocal
  • Score: 6

9:16pm Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

thinklikealocal wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
I think somebody want's a bit of attention....bless
If that's what you want, best get yourself up A and E , if you have 10 hours to spare that is. That five in the queue waiting to be assessed and 5 in the MRI suite whilst they try to locate something inside your skull :)

By midnight the place will be absolutely teeming with Southampton's finest and I'm sure you'll find plenty of people to have an on your level' conversation with :)
You sound like you're getting a bit hot under the collar.......calm down Timothy there's a good boy.
Do yourself a favour and stop making yourself look like such a tool.
Now you've had your little bit of fun and attention you've been craving so run along now and ask mummy for some warm milk before you go night nights.
Bless....
[quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: I think somebody want's a bit of attention....bless[/p][/quote]If that's what you want, best get yourself up A and E , if you have 10 hours to spare that is. That five in the queue waiting to be assessed and 5 in the MRI suite whilst they try to locate something inside your skull :) By midnight the place will be absolutely teeming with Southampton's finest and I'm sure you'll find plenty of people to have an on your level' conversation with :)[/p][/quote]You sound like you're getting a bit hot under the collar.......calm down Timothy there's a good boy. Do yourself a favour and stop making yourself look like such a tool. Now you've had your little bit of fun and attention you've been craving so run along now and ask mummy for some warm milk before you go night nights. Bless.... J7junctionseven
  • Score: -6

9:18pm Fri 1 Aug 14

St Van Roetford says...

Come on you big sillies - let's all have a group hug. I'm not sure how Wenger paying us a sort-of compliment has become quite so angry but can we all move on? Ta.
Come on you big sillies - let's all have a group hug. I'm not sure how Wenger paying us a sort-of compliment has become quite so angry but can we all move on? Ta. St Van Roetford
  • Score: 7

9:19pm Fri 1 Aug 14

thinklikealocal says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
I think somebody want's a bit of attention....bless
If that's what you want, best get yourself up A and E , if you have 10 hours to spare that is. That five in the queue waiting to be assessed and 5 in the MRI suite whilst they try to locate something inside your skull :)

By midnight the place will be absolutely teeming with Southampton's finest and I'm sure you'll find plenty of people to have an on your level' conversation with :)
You sound like you're getting a bit hot under the collar.......calm down Timothy there's a good boy.
Do yourself a favour and stop making yourself look like such a tool.
Now you've had your little bit of fun and attention you've been craving so run along now and ask mummy for some warm milk before you go night nights.
Bless....
I think that went quite well overall....
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: I think somebody want's a bit of attention....bless[/p][/quote]If that's what you want, best get yourself up A and E , if you have 10 hours to spare that is. That five in the queue waiting to be assessed and 5 in the MRI suite whilst they try to locate something inside your skull :) By midnight the place will be absolutely teeming with Southampton's finest and I'm sure you'll find plenty of people to have an on your level' conversation with :)[/p][/quote]You sound like you're getting a bit hot under the collar.......calm down Timothy there's a good boy. Do yourself a favour and stop making yourself look like such a tool. Now you've had your little bit of fun and attention you've been craving so run along now and ask mummy for some warm milk before you go night nights. Bless....[/p][/quote]I think that went quite well overall.... thinklikealocal
  • Score: -1

9:22pm Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
Come on you big sillies - let's all have a group hug. I'm not sure how Wenger paying us a sort-of compliment has become quite so angry but can we all move on? Ta.
All I said was "f'ck off you french child catcher" and all hell let lose from the PC Police Squad......:o)
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: Come on you big sillies - let's all have a group hug. I'm not sure how Wenger paying us a sort-of compliment has become quite so angry but can we all move on? Ta.[/p][/quote]All I said was "f'ck off you french child catcher" and all hell let lose from the PC Police Squad......:o) J7junctionseven
  • Score: -6

9:25pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

I go to a lot of away games. At most of those I bump into J7. Don't facking suggest he's not a Saints fan. Knobs.
I go to a lot of away games. At most of those I bump into J7. Don't facking suggest he's not a Saints fan. Knobs. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 3

9:27pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
Come on you big sillies - let's all have a group hug. I'm not sure how Wenger paying us a sort-of compliment has become quite so angry but can we all move on? Ta.
We're angry cos Wenger saw something from afar that our board didn't see from near.
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: Come on you big sillies - let's all have a group hug. I'm not sure how Wenger paying us a sort-of compliment has become quite so angry but can we all move on? Ta.[/p][/quote]We're angry cos Wenger saw something from afar that our board didn't see from near. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -3

9:27pm Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I go to a lot of away games. At most of those I bump into J7. Don't facking suggest he's not a Saints fan. Knobs.
Watch your language Seed, the PC Police will be all over like a f@cking rash!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: I go to a lot of away games. At most of those I bump into J7. Don't facking suggest he's not a Saints fan. Knobs.[/p][/quote]Watch your language Seed, the PC Police will be all over like a f@cking rash! J7junctionseven
  • Score: 0

9:34pm Fri 1 Aug 14

St Van Roetford says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
Come on you big sillies - let's all have a group hug. I'm not sure how Wenger paying us a sort-of compliment has become quite so angry but can we all move on? Ta.
All I said was "f'ck off you french child catcher" and all hell let lose from the PC Police Squad......:o)
Haha - you can't say ANYTHING these days. I've got a mate who's 6ft 5 and has started going out with a girl who's 5tf 2 so, obviously, I called him a paedophile (because it sort of is, when you think about it) and his mum absolutely lost her sh@t with me.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: Come on you big sillies - let's all have a group hug. I'm not sure how Wenger paying us a sort-of compliment has become quite so angry but can we all move on? Ta.[/p][/quote]All I said was "f'ck off you french child catcher" and all hell let lose from the PC Police Squad......:o)[/p][/quote]Haha - you can't say ANYTHING these days. I've got a mate who's 6ft 5 and has started going out with a girl who's 5tf 2 so, obviously, I called him a paedophile (because it sort of is, when you think about it) and his mum absolutely lost her sh@t with me. St Van Roetford
  • Score: -4

9:36pm Fri 1 Aug 14

St Van Roetford says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
Come on you big sillies - let's all have a group hug. I'm not sure how Wenger paying us a sort-of compliment has become quite so angry but can we all move on? Ta.
We're angry cos Wenger saw something from afar that our board didn't see from near.
No board in the world could have kept the likes of Bale and Walcott and Chamberlain at Southampton. It's not that we didn't see it - we just had to deal with it. It's sad but true.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: Come on you big sillies - let's all have a group hug. I'm not sure how Wenger paying us a sort-of compliment has become quite so angry but can we all move on? Ta.[/p][/quote]We're angry cos Wenger saw something from afar that our board didn't see from near.[/p][/quote]No board in the world could have kept the likes of Bale and Walcott and Chamberlain at Southampton. It's not that we didn't see it - we just had to deal with it. It's sad but true. St Van Roetford
  • Score: 2

9:36pm Fri 1 Aug 14

slatts1 says...

Struggling to understand why there over 100 comments on this crap from a French man telling us what we already know and just 2 comments on the selflesh brilliant run Franny doing I hope all saints fans will get behind him and show our support as we best fans in world
Struggling to understand why there over 100 comments on this crap from a French man telling us what we already know and just 2 comments on the selflesh brilliant run Franny doing I hope all saints fans will get behind him and show our support as we best fans in world slatts1
  • Score: 0

9:41pm Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
Come on you big sillies - let's all have a group hug. I'm not sure how Wenger paying us a sort-of compliment has become quite so angry but can we all move on? Ta.
All I said was "f'ck off you french child catcher" and all hell let lose from the PC Police Squad......:o)
Haha - you can't say ANYTHING these days. I've got a mate who's 6ft 5 and has started going out with a girl who's 5tf 2 so, obviously, I called him a paedophile (because it sort of is, when you think about it) and his mum absolutely lost her sh@t with me.
Some people still stuck in their ways or with no sense of humour just won't ever get it I'm afraid and will always put on the PC Police Badge.
Are they still together or has he moved onto someone smaller and younger now?....:o)
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: Come on you big sillies - let's all have a group hug. I'm not sure how Wenger paying us a sort-of compliment has become quite so angry but can we all move on? Ta.[/p][/quote]All I said was "f'ck off you french child catcher" and all hell let lose from the PC Police Squad......:o)[/p][/quote]Haha - you can't say ANYTHING these days. I've got a mate who's 6ft 5 and has started going out with a girl who's 5tf 2 so, obviously, I called him a paedophile (because it sort of is, when you think about it) and his mum absolutely lost her sh@t with me.[/p][/quote]Some people still stuck in their ways or with no sense of humour just won't ever get it I'm afraid and will always put on the PC Police Badge. Are they still together or has he moved onto someone smaller and younger now?....:o) J7junctionseven
  • Score: -1

9:48pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
Come on you big sillies - let's all have a group hug. I'm not sure how Wenger paying us a sort-of compliment has become quite so angry but can we all move on? Ta.
We're angry cos Wenger saw something from afar that our board didn't see from near.
No board in the world could have kept the likes of Bale and Walcott and Chamberlain at Southampton. It's not that we didn't see it - we just had to deal with it. It's sad but true.
Well we're not rich enough to buy them so we have to grow our own. Are you saying we're not rich enough to keep what we grow cos if you are you're saying we will never win anything?
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: Come on you big sillies - let's all have a group hug. I'm not sure how Wenger paying us a sort-of compliment has become quite so angry but can we all move on? Ta.[/p][/quote]We're angry cos Wenger saw something from afar that our board didn't see from near.[/p][/quote]No board in the world could have kept the likes of Bale and Walcott and Chamberlain at Southampton. It's not that we didn't see it - we just had to deal with it. It's sad but true.[/p][/quote]Well we're not rich enough to buy them so we have to grow our own. Are you saying we're not rich enough to keep what we grow cos if you are you're saying we will never win anything? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -3

9:58pm Fri 1 Aug 14

St Van Roetford says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
Come on you big sillies - let's all have a group hug. I'm not sure how Wenger paying us a sort-of compliment has become quite so angry but can we all move on? Ta.
We're angry cos Wenger saw something from afar that our board didn't see from near.
No board in the world could have kept the likes of Bale and Walcott and Chamberlain at Southampton. It's not that we didn't see it - we just had to deal with it. It's sad but true.
Well we're not rich enough to buy them so we have to grow our own. Are you saying we're not rich enough to keep what we grow cos if you are you're saying we will never win anything?
We won't be rich enough until we totally sort out the commercial side of what we do, and that's something that Ralph appeared to 'get' right from the off. It's boring, but our marketing and commercial team are as important to our long term prospects as RoKo is. But the good news is that the potential on the south coast is massive. A lot of people live there and there aren't really any other clubs of note.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: Come on you big sillies - let's all have a group hug. I'm not sure how Wenger paying us a sort-of compliment has become quite so angry but can we all move on? Ta.[/p][/quote]We're angry cos Wenger saw something from afar that our board didn't see from near.[/p][/quote]No board in the world could have kept the likes of Bale and Walcott and Chamberlain at Southampton. It's not that we didn't see it - we just had to deal with it. It's sad but true.[/p][/quote]Well we're not rich enough to buy them so we have to grow our own. Are you saying we're not rich enough to keep what we grow cos if you are you're saying we will never win anything?[/p][/quote]We won't be rich enough until we totally sort out the commercial side of what we do, and that's something that Ralph appeared to 'get' right from the off. It's boring, but our marketing and commercial team are as important to our long term prospects as RoKo is. But the good news is that the potential on the south coast is massive. A lot of people live there and there aren't really any other clubs of note. St Van Roetford
  • Score: 8

10:01pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
Come on you big sillies - let's all have a group hug. I'm not sure how Wenger paying us a sort-of compliment has become quite so angry but can we all move on? Ta.
We're angry cos Wenger saw something from afar that our board didn't see from near.
No board in the world could have kept the likes of Bale and Walcott and Chamberlain at Southampton. It's not that we didn't see it - we just had to deal with it. It's sad but true.
Well we're not rich enough to buy them so we have to grow our own. Are you saying we're not rich enough to keep what we grow cos if you are you're saying we will never win anything?
We won't be rich enough until we totally sort out the commercial side of what we do, and that's something that Ralph appeared to 'get' right from the off. It's boring, but our marketing and commercial team are as important to our long term prospects as RoKo is. But the good news is that the potential on the south coast is massive. A lot of people live there and there aren't really any other clubs of note.
Vewho
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: Come on you big sillies - let's all have a group hug. I'm not sure how Wenger paying us a sort-of compliment has become quite so angry but can we all move on? Ta.[/p][/quote]We're angry cos Wenger saw something from afar that our board didn't see from near.[/p][/quote]No board in the world could have kept the likes of Bale and Walcott and Chamberlain at Southampton. It's not that we didn't see it - we just had to deal with it. It's sad but true.[/p][/quote]Well we're not rich enough to buy them so we have to grow our own. Are you saying we're not rich enough to keep what we grow cos if you are you're saying we will never win anything?[/p][/quote]We won't be rich enough until we totally sort out the commercial side of what we do, and that's something that Ralph appeared to 'get' right from the off. It's boring, but our marketing and commercial team are as important to our long term prospects as RoKo is. But the good news is that the potential on the south coast is massive. A lot of people live there and there aren't really any other clubs of note.[/p][/quote]Vewho Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -4

10:26pm Fri 1 Aug 14

St Van Roetford says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
Come on you big sillies - let's all have a group hug. I'm not sure how Wenger paying us a sort-of compliment has become quite so angry but can we all move on? Ta.
We're angry cos Wenger saw something from afar that our board didn't see from near.
No board in the world could have kept the likes of Bale and Walcott and Chamberlain at Southampton. It's not that we didn't see it - we just had to deal with it. It's sad but true.
Well we're not rich enough to buy them so we have to grow our own. Are you saying we're not rich enough to keep what we grow cos if you are you're saying we will never win anything?
We won't be rich enough until we totally sort out the commercial side of what we do, and that's something that Ralph appeared to 'get' right from the off. It's boring, but our marketing and commercial team are as important to our long term prospects as RoKo is. But the good news is that the potential on the south coast is massive. A lot of people live there and there aren't really any other clubs of note.
Vewho
There are MUCH bigger avenues of revenue open to us than shirt sponsors. Which is just as well as I'll be the first to admit our kit this year is proper rubbish.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: Come on you big sillies - let's all have a group hug. I'm not sure how Wenger paying us a sort-of compliment has become quite so angry but can we all move on? Ta.[/p][/quote]We're angry cos Wenger saw something from afar that our board didn't see from near.[/p][/quote]No board in the world could have kept the likes of Bale and Walcott and Chamberlain at Southampton. It's not that we didn't see it - we just had to deal with it. It's sad but true.[/p][/quote]Well we're not rich enough to buy them so we have to grow our own. Are you saying we're not rich enough to keep what we grow cos if you are you're saying we will never win anything?[/p][/quote]We won't be rich enough until we totally sort out the commercial side of what we do, and that's something that Ralph appeared to 'get' right from the off. It's boring, but our marketing and commercial team are as important to our long term prospects as RoKo is. But the good news is that the potential on the south coast is massive. A lot of people live there and there aren't really any other clubs of note.[/p][/quote]Vewho[/p][/quote]There are MUCH bigger avenues of revenue open to us than shirt sponsors. Which is just as well as I'll be the first to admit our kit this year is proper rubbish. St Van Roetford
  • Score: 2

10:27pm Fri 1 Aug 14

circa 66 saint says...

Well roll on next Saturday, we will then see how we are standing and if we will be able to compete with the top sides.
My own opinion is yes we can, just look at the squad we have its not bad, but we will need to strengthen the squad to cover for any injuries.
I reckon
Goalie
2 quality defenders
2 forwards one a fast poacher of goals and the other a slow poacher of goals.in other words a goal poacher or two.f
Lastly I think now is the Time to put my bet on for a top 10 finish.
And this time I reckon I can outrun the men in white coats
COYR
Well roll on next Saturday, we will then see how we are standing and if we will be able to compete with the top sides. My own opinion is yes we can, just look at the squad we have its not bad, but we will need to strengthen the squad to cover for any injuries. I reckon Goalie 2 quality defenders 2 forwards one a fast poacher of goals and the other a slow poacher of goals.in other words a goal poacher or two.f Lastly I think now is the Time to put my bet on for a top 10 finish. And this time I reckon I can outrun the men in white coats COYR circa 66 saint
  • Score: 4

10:57pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

circa 66 saint wrote:
Well roll on next Saturday, we will then see how we are standing and if we will be able to compete with the top sides.
My own opinion is yes we can, just look at the squad we have its not bad, but we will need to strengthen the squad to cover for any injuries.
I reckon
Goalie
2 quality defenders
2 forwards one a fast poacher of goals and the other a slow poacher of goals.in other words a goal poacher or two.f
Lastly I think now is the Time to put my bet on for a top 10 finish.
And this time I reckon I can outrun the men in white coats
COYR
Pretty much sums up what everyone was saying was all we needed at the end of last season,in order to push on in the coming season,Circa..ho hum.
[quote][p][bold]circa 66 saint[/bold] wrote: Well roll on next Saturday, we will then see how we are standing and if we will be able to compete with the top sides. My own opinion is yes we can, just look at the squad we have its not bad, but we will need to strengthen the squad to cover for any injuries. I reckon Goalie 2 quality defenders 2 forwards one a fast poacher of goals and the other a slow poacher of goals.in other words a goal poacher or two.f Lastly I think now is the Time to put my bet on for a top 10 finish. And this time I reckon I can outrun the men in white coats COYR[/p][/quote]Pretty much sums up what everyone was saying was all we needed at the end of last season,in order to push on in the coming season,Circa..ho hum. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

11:01pm Fri 1 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I go to a lot of away games. At most of those I bump into J7. Don't facking suggest he's not a Saints fan. Knobs.
J7 is a TOP SAINTS FAN.

There has been a lot of anger and frustration on these threads due to the current Crisis which was brought on the MISTAKES made by the BOARD.

As a rule I do not FIGHT other Saints Fans and channel aggression towards Away Fans.

SUGGEST you all do the same - RED ARMY - FIGHT + WIN

COYR+WS
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: I go to a lot of away games. At most of those I bump into J7. Don't facking suggest he's not a Saints fan. Knobs.[/p][/quote]J7 is a TOP SAINTS FAN. There has been a lot of anger and frustration on these threads due to the current Crisis which was brought on the MISTAKES made by the BOARD. As a rule I do not FIGHT other Saints Fans and channel aggression towards Away Fans. SUGGEST you all do the same - RED ARMY - FIGHT + WIN COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: -2

11:21pm Fri 1 Aug 14

North Wales Saint says...

slatts1 wrote:
Struggling to understand why there over 100 comments on this crap from a French man telling us what we already know and just 2 comments on the selflesh brilliant run Franny doing I hope all saints fans will get behind him and show our support as we best fans in world
Most of them aren't comments as such - just people endlessly slagging each other off. In the meantime I'm sure we all wish Franny all the best.
[quote][p][bold]slatts1[/bold] wrote: Struggling to understand why there over 100 comments on this crap from a French man telling us what we already know and just 2 comments on the selflesh brilliant run Franny doing I hope all saints fans will get behind him and show our support as we best fans in world[/p][/quote]Most of them aren't comments as such - just people endlessly slagging each other off. In the meantime I'm sure we all wish Franny all the best. North Wales Saint
  • Score: 1

11:36pm Fri 1 Aug 14

poshdave says...

.......Southampton players available for this Seasons Sun dream team.......
*1 Goal keeper
*3 Defenders
*8 Midfielders
*2 Strikers
That includes Spider and Jrod (obviously injured) ....................
....................
..
and we were even on ITV news at Ten to show the world what a great job the owner and the board have been doing this year.......I do hope they continue............
.Great compliment from Wenger though.......my head still hurts!!!!
.......Southampton players available for this Seasons Sun dream team....... *1 Goal keeper *3 Defenders *8 Midfielders *2 Strikers That includes Spider and Jrod (obviously injured) .................... .................... .. and we were even on ITV news at Ten to show the world what a great job the owner and the board have been doing this year.......I do hope they continue............ .Great compliment from Wenger though.......my head still hurts!!!! poshdave
  • Score: 1

5:33am Sat 2 Aug 14

mickey01 says...

steekeemcglue wrote:
shows Arsene Wenger is loosing it.... with Poch we would not have had a cat in hells chance of winning anything in Europe....
you would not have said that 6 months ago
[quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote: shows Arsene Wenger is loosing it.... with Poch we would not have had a cat in hells chance of winning anything in Europe....[/p][/quote]you would not have said that 6 months ago mickey01
  • Score: 1

6:52am Sat 2 Aug 14

Optimist says...

Weird posts on this thread???

Anyway IMHO this is Wenger defending his £16 mil buy. He hints between the lines that Chambers could very easily develop into a player of Bale's calibre
Weird posts on this thread??? Anyway IMHO this is Wenger defending his £16 mil buy. He hints between the lines that Chambers could very easily develop into a player of Bale's calibre Optimist
  • Score: 2

7:01am Sat 2 Aug 14

Saint Jinx says...

Personally I have always had a lot of time for Arsene Wenger. He is being honest and perhaps he feels a bit of guilt.

Did you see Rupert Lowe on ITV last night - speaking on behalf of Southampton and saying "we".
Personally I have always had a lot of time for Arsene Wenger. He is being honest and perhaps he feels a bit of guilt. Did you see Rupert Lowe on ITV last night - speaking on behalf of Southampton and saying "we". Saint Jinx
  • Score: 0

7:22am Sat 2 Aug 14

SFCOLDBOY says...

Alicesdad wrote:
What on Earth inspired a comment like his from the old boy? I generally respect his opinion but it sounds either like a bit of stirring by the press. or is he having a go at our board? I really don't know.

Frankly a bigger surpise is that Arsenal haven't won the Champions League. They have had some high quality players over the years , not just the ones we sold to them. But still they struggle to win anything and their only achhievement is qualifying for the Champions League..... again and again and again. Yawn... They have an amazing stadium and solid core fan base, yet still they under achieve. Im not having a go here, Im just reflecting that with all their money and long heritage its still very tough to progress and win anything substantial these days.

If we take his comments at face value, he is making a speculative pointt at best. We were very good last season but our final league position was fair based on our results. if we are honest we all know this is true. That team was excellent but I odubt it could have lived with the very big European teams.. lets be realistic.

For Saints the future might one day see us qualify for Champions League, not an easy ambition but still one that is not beyond our capability and certainly not beyond our means. But there is still a gap to be filled.

My view on our team last season was that despite it's brilliant flashes and top class start to the season, it still lacked "factor x". We had amazing team spirit - it was worth an extra man in some games - but we lacked one or two players that would have elevated the team to something sublime.

Champions League teams do not lose matches like the ones we slipped up in. A CL team is consistent throughout a season, we were brilliant until the Arsenal away game and then it collapsed rapidly. We regrouped OK but in the end our final position was about right.. we were not a "top four team" .... but we were on the right path.

We are still on the right path though. We have the right manager, we still have a solid core of excellent players with some new some new signings and more youth discoveries still on the way .. I still think we should make top half if everyone lives up to their billing.

The board needs to think through its strategy on communication though. A measured and consistent approach is better than bouts of silence followed by platitudes. The fans ar not stupid. The owners need to consder their stance too, some regular supportive poistive messages would change the current mood significantly. Katarina has a personality, we need to understand it better. I think the board is still learning on its feet. Sometimes that is how it has to be.


So thanks Arsene, you have stirred the bees nest, or the press has, whatever .... but the fans are starting to see the reality of the situation and are beginning to recognise that this probably not the start of the apocalypse but the dawn of a new regime. It's not a question of "what might have been".. its a question of "what might be" ...

Long live Ron, king of kings, look on his works, ye Mighty, and despair !!
Alicesdad,
You appear to have found out what is going on.
Thank G0d!
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: What on Earth inspired a comment like his from the old boy? I generally respect his opinion but it sounds either like a bit of stirring by the press. or is he having a go at our board? I really don't know. Frankly a bigger surpise is that Arsenal haven't won the Champions League. They have had some high quality players over the years , not just the ones we sold to them. But still they struggle to win anything and their only achhievement is qualifying for the Champions League..... again and again and again. Yawn... They have an amazing stadium and solid core fan base, yet still they under achieve. Im not having a go here, Im just reflecting that with all their money and long heritage its still very tough to progress and win anything substantial these days. If we take his comments at face value, he is making a speculative pointt at best. We were very good last season but our final league position was fair based on our results. if we are honest we all know this is true. That team was excellent but I odubt it could have lived with the very big European teams.. lets be realistic. For Saints the future might one day see us qualify for Champions League, not an easy ambition but still one that is not beyond our capability and certainly not beyond our means. But there is still a gap to be filled. My view on our team last season was that despite it's brilliant flashes and top class start to the season, it still lacked "factor x". We had amazing team spirit - it was worth an extra man in some games - but we lacked one or two players that would have elevated the team to something sublime. Champions League teams do not lose matches like the ones we slipped up in. A CL team is consistent throughout a season, we were brilliant until the Arsenal away game and then it collapsed rapidly. We regrouped OK but in the end our final position was about right.. we were not a "top four team" .... but we were on the right path. We are still on the right path though. We have the right manager, we still have a solid core of excellent players with some new some new signings and more youth discoveries still on the way .. I still think we should make top half if everyone lives up to their billing. The board needs to think through its strategy on communication though. A measured and consistent approach is better than bouts of silence followed by platitudes. The fans ar not stupid. The owners need to consder their stance too, some regular supportive poistive messages would change the current mood significantly. Katarina has a personality, we need to understand it better. I think the board is still learning on its feet. Sometimes that is how it has to be. So thanks Arsene, you have stirred the bees nest, or the press has, whatever .... but the fans are starting to see the reality of the situation and are beginning to recognise that this probably not the start of the apocalypse but the dawn of a new regime. It's not a question of "what might have been".. its a question of "what might be" ... Long live Ron, king of kings, look on his works, ye Mighty, and despair !![/p][/quote]Alicesdad, You appear to have found out what is going on. Thank G0d! SFCOLDBOY
  • Score: 2

7:39am Sat 2 Aug 14

slatts1 says...

North Wales Saint wrote:
slatts1 wrote:
Struggling to understand why there over 100 comments on this crap from a French man telling us what we already know and just 2 comments on the selflesh brilliant run Franny doing I hope all saints fans will get behind him and show our support as we best fans in world
Most of them aren't comments as such - just people endlessly slagging each other off. In the meantime I'm sure we all wish Franny all the best.
Just read though some of them and u may have a point lol
[quote][p][bold]North Wales Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slatts1[/bold] wrote: Struggling to understand why there over 100 comments on this crap from a French man telling us what we already know and just 2 comments on the selflesh brilliant run Franny doing I hope all saints fans will get behind him and show our support as we best fans in world[/p][/quote]Most of them aren't comments as such - just people endlessly slagging each other off. In the meantime I'm sure we all wish Franny all the best.[/p][/quote]Just read though some of them and u may have a point lol slatts1
  • Score: 2

7:39am Sat 2 Aug 14

slatts1 says...

North Wales Saint wrote:
slatts1 wrote:
Struggling to understand why there over 100 comments on this crap from a French man telling us what we already know and just 2 comments on the selflesh brilliant run Franny doing I hope all saints fans will get behind him and show our support as we best fans in world
Most of them aren't comments as such - just people endlessly slagging each other off. In the meantime I'm sure we all wish Franny all the best.
Just read though some of them and u may have a point lol
[quote][p][bold]North Wales Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slatts1[/bold] wrote: Struggling to understand why there over 100 comments on this crap from a French man telling us what we already know and just 2 comments on the selflesh brilliant run Franny doing I hope all saints fans will get behind him and show our support as we best fans in world[/p][/quote]Most of them aren't comments as such - just people endlessly slagging each other off. In the meantime I'm sure we all wish Franny all the best.[/p][/quote]Just read though some of them and u may have a point lol slatts1
  • Score: 1

7:54am Sat 2 Aug 14

sparky130a says...

Jesus, reading that back is like seeing the dialogue from a couple of knobbers on the juice in southsea.

Get a grip lads and just get behind the team. There's enough tossers out there trying to bin us without infighting.
Jesus, reading that back is like seeing the dialogue from a couple of knobbers on the juice in southsea. Get a grip lads and just get behind the team. There's enough tossers out there trying to bin us without infighting. sparky130a
  • Score: 4

8:04am Sat 2 Aug 14

Saintsayer II says...

mickey01 wrote:
steekeemcglue wrote:
shows Arsene Wenger is loosing it.... with Poch we would not have had a cat in hells chance of winning anything in Europe....
you would not have said that 6 months ago
I did
[quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote: shows Arsene Wenger is loosing it.... with Poch we would not have had a cat in hells chance of winning anything in Europe....[/p][/quote]you would not have said that 6 months ago[/p][/quote]I did Saintsayer II
  • Score: 0

8:57am Sat 2 Aug 14

Mr saint76 says...

The same could be said about Arsenal. Look how many of their WORLD CLASS stars have left them to win honours elsewhere. Take Bale out of the equation none of our so called stars have won basically sod all.
The same could be said about Arsenal. Look how many of their WORLD CLASS stars have left them to win honours elsewhere. Take Bale out of the equation none of our so called stars have won basically sod all. Mr saint76
  • Score: 1

9:06am Sat 2 Aug 14

THE12THMAN says...

poshdave wrote:
.......Southampton players available for this Seasons Sun dream team.......
*1 Goal keeper
*3 Defenders
*8 Midfielders
*2 Strikers
That includes Spider and Jrod (obviously injured) ....................

....................

..
and we were even on ITV news at Ten to show the world what a great job the owner and the board have been doing this year.......I do hope they continue............

.Great compliment from Wenger though.......my head still hurts!!!!
The suns dream team means nothing, think about it, how many defenders played against Brighton the other night?was it three or did I see four on the pitch etc, etc, the sun is stirring it. COYR+WS.
[quote][p][bold]poshdave[/bold] wrote: .......Southampton players available for this Seasons Sun dream team....... *1 Goal keeper *3 Defenders *8 Midfielders *2 Strikers That includes Spider and Jrod (obviously injured) .................... .................... .. and we were even on ITV news at Ten to show the world what a great job the owner and the board have been doing this year.......I do hope they continue............ .Great compliment from Wenger though.......my head still hurts!!!![/p][/quote]The suns dream team means nothing, think about it, how many defenders played against Brighton the other night?was it three or did I see four on the pitch etc, etc, the sun is stirring it. COYR+WS. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 1

9:12am Sat 2 Aug 14

Numpty Girl says...

Saint Jinx wrote:
Personally I have always had a lot of time for Arsene Wenger. He is being honest and perhaps he feels a bit of guilt.

Did you see Rupert Lowe on ITV last night - speaking on behalf of Southampton and saying "we".
Say what you will about Lowe, but his heart is in our great club - he's a Saint through and through.
[quote][p][bold]Saint Jinx[/bold] wrote: Personally I have always had a lot of time for Arsene Wenger. He is being honest and perhaps he feels a bit of guilt. Did you see Rupert Lowe on ITV last night - speaking on behalf of Southampton and saying "we".[/p][/quote]Say what you will about Lowe, but his heart is in our great club - he's a Saint through and through. Numpty Girl
  • Score: -2

9:36am Sat 2 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Numpty Girl wrote:
Saint Jinx wrote:
Personally I have always had a lot of time for Arsene Wenger. He is being honest and perhaps he feels a bit of guilt.

Did you see Rupert Lowe on ITV last night - speaking on behalf of Southampton and saying "we".
Say what you will about Lowe, but his heart is in our great club - he's a Saint through and through.
Now I know your on a wind up!
The only good thing the dark Lord did for our club was to leave, and that was only because he helped to ruin it and had to!
[quote][p][bold]Numpty Girl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Jinx[/bold] wrote: Personally I have always had a lot of time for Arsene Wenger. He is being honest and perhaps he feels a bit of guilt. Did you see Rupert Lowe on ITV last night - speaking on behalf of Southampton and saying "we".[/p][/quote]Say what you will about Lowe, but his heart is in our great club - he's a Saint through and through.[/p][/quote]Now I know your on a wind up! The only good thing the dark Lord did for our club was to leave, and that was only because he helped to ruin it and had to! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 0

9:37am Sat 2 Aug 14

BitterneP@rk says...

What would the European Cup winning line up be then?
I'm not a Saints fan so I am guessing on some of these positions.

GK ?
LB Shaw
CB Lovren
CB ?
RB Chambers
LM Bale
CM Lallana
CM Schneiderlin
RM Chamberlain
CF Lambert
CF Walcott

Not seeing anything near Champions League winners there, decent attacking players but bar Bale nowhere near proven world class.
I guess Wenger assumes you can add to this.
What would the European Cup winning line up be then? I'm not a Saints fan so I am guessing on some of these positions. GK ? LB Shaw CB Lovren CB ? RB Chambers LM Bale CM Lallana CM Schneiderlin RM Chamberlain CF Lambert CF Walcott Not seeing anything near Champions League winners there, decent attacking players but bar Bale nowhere near proven world class. I guess Wenger assumes you can add to this. BitterneP@rk
  • Score: 1

9:38am Sat 2 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

FIGHT AND WIN. COYR

RULE 1 OF THIS CLUB - WE DON'T FIGHT OTHER SAINTS FANS.

This Forum does produce wide ranging views of a variety of subjects all things Saints - and that is a GOOD THING.

There is RECOGNITION from the Independents and from within the Club that the current members of the BOARD made some BASIC MISTAKES.

There is also the ACCEPTANCE that when we wanted STRONG LEADERSHIP - Ralph Krueger did not deliver this.

Regarding the PROTEST - Support for this is waning and if we get in 2 or 3 new Players - the Protest will not go ahead as planned.

We must strengthen at CB and additional Number 1 Keeper as a minimum.

The RELEGATION Odds are falling as punters put money on the Southampton Drop. We have posted at length how we got to this point from a very strong position in the League.

What happens next is VITAL.

GET BEHIND THE MANAGER AND THE PLAYERS. COYR+WS
FIGHT AND WIN. COYR RULE 1 OF THIS CLUB - WE DON'T FIGHT OTHER SAINTS FANS. This Forum does produce wide ranging views of a variety of subjects all things Saints - and that is a GOOD THING. There is RECOGNITION from the Independents and from within the Club that the current members of the BOARD made some BASIC MISTAKES. There is also the ACCEPTANCE that when we wanted STRONG LEADERSHIP - Ralph Krueger did not deliver this. Regarding the PROTEST - Support for this is waning and if we get in 2 or 3 new Players - the Protest will not go ahead as planned. We must strengthen at CB and additional Number 1 Keeper as a minimum. The RELEGATION Odds are falling as punters put money on the Southampton Drop. We have posted at length how we got to this point from a very strong position in the League. What happens next is VITAL. GET BEHIND THE MANAGER AND THE PLAYERS. COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 0

10:04am Sat 2 Aug 14

thinklikealocal says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
FIGHT AND WIN. COYR

RULE 1 OF THIS CLUB - WE DON'T FIGHT OTHER SAINTS FANS.

This Forum does produce wide ranging views of a variety of subjects all things Saints - and that is a GOOD THING.

There is RECOGNITION from the Independents and from within the Club that the current members of the BOARD made some BASIC MISTAKES.

There is also the ACCEPTANCE that when we wanted STRONG LEADERSHIP - Ralph Krueger did not deliver this.

Regarding the PROTEST - Support for this is waning and if we get in 2 or 3 new Players - the Protest will not go ahead as planned.

We must strengthen at CB and additional Number 1 Keeper as a minimum.

The RELEGATION Odds are falling as punters put money on the Southampton Drop. We have posted at length how we got to this point from a very strong position in the League.

What happens next is VITAL.

GET BEHIND THE MANAGER AND THE PLAYERS. COYR+WS
How about rule 2 being no use of gratuitous and unnecessary profanities?
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: FIGHT AND WIN. COYR RULE 1 OF THIS CLUB - WE DON'T FIGHT OTHER SAINTS FANS. This Forum does produce wide ranging views of a variety of subjects all things Saints - and that is a GOOD THING. There is RECOGNITION from the Independents and from within the Club that the current members of the BOARD made some BASIC MISTAKES. There is also the ACCEPTANCE that when we wanted STRONG LEADERSHIP - Ralph Krueger did not deliver this. Regarding the PROTEST - Support for this is waning and if we get in 2 or 3 new Players - the Protest will not go ahead as planned. We must strengthen at CB and additional Number 1 Keeper as a minimum. The RELEGATION Odds are falling as punters put money on the Southampton Drop. We have posted at length how we got to this point from a very strong position in the League. What happens next is VITAL. GET BEHIND THE MANAGER AND THE PLAYERS. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]How about rule 2 being no use of gratuitous and unnecessary profanities? thinklikealocal
  • Score: 1

10:13am Sat 2 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

thinklikealocal wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
FIGHT AND WIN. COYR

RULE 1 OF THIS CLUB - WE DON'T FIGHT OTHER SAINTS FANS.

This Forum does produce wide ranging views of a variety of subjects all things Saints - and that is a GOOD THING.

There is RECOGNITION from the Independents and from within the Club that the current members of the BOARD made some BASIC MISTAKES.

There is also the ACCEPTANCE that when we wanted STRONG LEADERSHIP - Ralph Krueger did not deliver this.

Regarding the PROTEST - Support for this is waning and if we get in 2 or 3 new Players - the Protest will not go ahead as planned.

We must strengthen at CB and additional Number 1 Keeper as a minimum.

The RELEGATION Odds are falling as punters put money on the Southampton Drop. We have posted at length how we got to this point from a very strong position in the League.

What happens next is VITAL.

GET BEHIND THE MANAGER AND THE PLAYERS. COYR+WS
How about rule 2 being no use of gratuitous and unnecessary profanities?
CHANGING SUBJECT RADICALLY ...

You are now getting in to Forum Rules - it has been posted by others before now...

THIS IS A FOOTBALL FORUM where passionate Fans say their bit - whether good or bad or whether they change their minds two minutes later.

This Forum is run by DAILY ECHO that welcomes frank interchange of views- it is not run by the Local Vicar for the Village Magazine.

TRY the Saints Forum - Ugly Inside - etc if you want a different Product.

THE FOCUS is not on the Forum and what one Fan or another may or may not have posted ...

THE FOCUS IS THE START OF THE FOOTBALL SEASON.

LET'S GET THE PLAYERS IN and give KING RON a FIGHTING CHANCE.
COYR+WS
[quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: FIGHT AND WIN. COYR RULE 1 OF THIS CLUB - WE DON'T FIGHT OTHER SAINTS FANS. This Forum does produce wide ranging views of a variety of subjects all things Saints - and that is a GOOD THING. There is RECOGNITION from the Independents and from within the Club that the current members of the BOARD made some BASIC MISTAKES. There is also the ACCEPTANCE that when we wanted STRONG LEADERSHIP - Ralph Krueger did not deliver this. Regarding the PROTEST - Support for this is waning and if we get in 2 or 3 new Players - the Protest will not go ahead as planned. We must strengthen at CB and additional Number 1 Keeper as a minimum. The RELEGATION Odds are falling as punters put money on the Southampton Drop. We have posted at length how we got to this point from a very strong position in the League. What happens next is VITAL. GET BEHIND THE MANAGER AND THE PLAYERS. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]How about rule 2 being no use of gratuitous and unnecessary profanities?[/p][/quote]CHANGING SUBJECT RADICALLY ... You are now getting in to Forum Rules - it has been posted by others before now... THIS IS A FOOTBALL FORUM where passionate Fans say their bit - whether good or bad or whether they change their minds two minutes later. This Forum is run by DAILY ECHO that welcomes frank interchange of views- it is not run by the Local Vicar for the Village Magazine. TRY the Saints Forum - Ugly Inside - etc if you want a different Product. THE FOCUS is not on the Forum and what one Fan or another may or may not have posted ... THE FOCUS IS THE START OF THE FOOTBALL SEASON. LET'S GET THE PLAYERS IN and give KING RON a FIGHTING CHANCE. COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 0

10:47am Sat 2 Aug 14

vogon says...

the swinging arm of channon wrote:
Perhaps we’ll see that team together sometime for a testimonial – oh no, hang on, no player stays ten minutes nowadays let alone ten seasons, so perhaps we won’t.
I think Kelvin Davies would be worthy of a Testimonial.
[quote][p][bold]the swinging arm of channon[/bold] wrote: Perhaps we’ll see that team together sometime for a testimonial – oh no, hang on, no player stays ten minutes nowadays let alone ten seasons, so perhaps we won’t.[/p][/quote]I think Kelvin Davies would be worthy of a Testimonial. vogon
  • Score: 2

10:54am Sat 2 Aug 14

Blind Faith Believer says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
He does look like the child catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang though. Put a black hat and black wig on him and give him a horse drawn carriage with bars on the back and a hand full of lollipops and he could run round the country stealing all the young talent from every club.....He does it anyway so why not make it entertaining at the same time!
And who saved the children from The Child Catcher? Southampton hero Benny Hill as the Toymaker.
We will continue to produce excellent young players and play brilliant football. Occasionally a group will mature together (like last season) and a high league finish and a cup run will come along to ensure that we get reward for our loyal support. That is exactly why Sunderland away last season totally betrayed Poch's lack of understanding of what the Saints fans true hopes and expectations really are. He blew a really big chance of a major trophy that day.
Wenger's talk of winning the European Champions league is condescending twaddle. Until we have a bigger stadium, international marketing set up and an owner with incredibly deep pockets that they are not bothered about emptying, we are not even competing in that echelon.
Eighth place, playing excellent attractive football with a cup run thrown is needed over the next few seasons to consolidate all the hard work that has put in since Markus Liebherr rescued us from oblivion.
The summer has been a roller coaster and we still have some disappointments to come unfortunately. However, we get some unexpected boosts too, either new faces or some kids really coming through. it is never dull being a Saints fan, but the club and the fans will come out the other side just a strong
Oh When the Saints..........
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: He does look like the child catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang though. Put a black hat and black wig on him and give him a horse drawn carriage with bars on the back and a hand full of lollipops and he could run round the country stealing all the young talent from every club.....He does it anyway so why not make it entertaining at the same time![/p][/quote]And who saved the children from The Child Catcher? Southampton hero Benny Hill as the Toymaker. We will continue to produce excellent young players and play brilliant football. Occasionally a group will mature together (like last season) and a high league finish and a cup run will come along to ensure that we get reward for our loyal support. That is exactly why Sunderland away last season totally betrayed Poch's lack of understanding of what the Saints fans true hopes and expectations really are. He blew a really big chance of a major trophy that day. Wenger's talk of winning the European Champions league is condescending twaddle. Until we have a bigger stadium, international marketing set up and an owner with incredibly deep pockets that they are not bothered about emptying, we are not even competing in that echelon. Eighth place, playing excellent attractive football with a cup run thrown is needed over the next few seasons to consolidate all the hard work that has put in since Markus Liebherr rescued us from oblivion. The summer has been a roller coaster and we still have some disappointments to come unfortunately. However, we get some unexpected boosts too, either new faces or some kids really coming through. it is never dull being a Saints fan, but the club and the fans will come out the other side just a strong Oh When the Saints.......... Blind Faith Believer
  • Score: 2

11:00am Sat 2 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
FIGHT AND WIN. COYR

RULE 1 OF THIS CLUB - WE DON'T FIGHT OTHER SAINTS FANS.

This Forum does produce wide ranging views of a variety of subjects all things Saints - and that is a GOOD THING.

There is RECOGNITION from the Independents and from within the Club that the current members of the BOARD made some BASIC MISTAKES.

There is also the ACCEPTANCE that when we wanted STRONG LEADERSHIP - Ralph Krueger did not deliver this.

Regarding the PROTEST - Support for this is waning and if we get in 2 or 3 new Players - the Protest will not go ahead as planned.

We must strengthen at CB and additional Number 1 Keeper as a minimum.

The RELEGATION Odds are falling as punters put money on the Southampton Drop. We have posted at length how we got to this point from a very strong position in the League.

What happens next is VITAL.

GET BEHIND THE MANAGER AND THE PLAYERS. COYR+WS
How about rule 2 being no use of gratuitous and unnecessary profanities?
CHANGING SUBJECT RADICALLY ...

You are now getting in to Forum Rules - it has been posted by others before now...

THIS IS A FOOTBALL FORUM where passionate Fans say their bit - whether good or bad or whether they change their minds two minutes later.

This Forum is run by DAILY ECHO that welcomes frank interchange of views- it is not run by the Local Vicar for the Village Magazine.

TRY the Saints Forum - Ugly Inside - etc if you want a different Product.

THE FOCUS is not on the Forum and what one Fan or another may or may not have posted ...

THE FOCUS IS THE START OF THE FOOTBALL SEASON.

LET'S GET THE PLAYERS IN and give KING RON a FIGHTING CHANCE.
COYR+WS
well if you want a forum where you can swear to your hearts content then visit any of the many facebook forums.
as it is this is an non-age restricted forum where fans come to express their opinions within the rules set out by the echo. those rules state that you are not allowed to post anything abusive.
most of us are adults but there will be children who visit the site, mostly from poopey. as adults we should all be able to put our point across without the need for abusive language.
don't get me wrong I`m no prude and can swear like a poopey whore on benefits day. however I am still able to restrict the use of abusive language when children are present.
as you said this site is run by the daily echo and yes they do welcome the frank exchange of views, however they also set the site rules and if you are unable to post within those rules they will remove you from their site.
not having a go at anyone by the way because the negs, wums and normal fans all break the rules.
my feeling is that if it continues the echo may be forced to employ a moderator to run the forums as the news site has done. last time I looked on their, and it was a while ago, lots of posts get removed and it becomes difficult to get a coherent idea of what they are talking about, well more difficult than it normally is!
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: FIGHT AND WIN. COYR RULE 1 OF THIS CLUB - WE DON'T FIGHT OTHER SAINTS FANS. This Forum does produce wide ranging views of a variety of subjects all things Saints - and that is a GOOD THING. There is RECOGNITION from the Independents and from within the Club that the current members of the BOARD made some BASIC MISTAKES. There is also the ACCEPTANCE that when we wanted STRONG LEADERSHIP - Ralph Krueger did not deliver this. Regarding the PROTEST - Support for this is waning and if we get in 2 or 3 new Players - the Protest will not go ahead as planned. We must strengthen at CB and additional Number 1 Keeper as a minimum. The RELEGATION Odds are falling as punters put money on the Southampton Drop. We have posted at length how we got to this point from a very strong position in the League. What happens next is VITAL. GET BEHIND THE MANAGER AND THE PLAYERS. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]How about rule 2 being no use of gratuitous and unnecessary profanities?[/p][/quote]CHANGING SUBJECT RADICALLY ... You are now getting in to Forum Rules - it has been posted by others before now... THIS IS A FOOTBALL FORUM where passionate Fans say their bit - whether good or bad or whether they change their minds two minutes later. This Forum is run by DAILY ECHO that welcomes frank interchange of views- it is not run by the Local Vicar for the Village Magazine. TRY the Saints Forum - Ugly Inside - etc if you want a different Product. THE FOCUS is not on the Forum and what one Fan or another may or may not have posted ... THE FOCUS IS THE START OF THE FOOTBALL SEASON. LET'S GET THE PLAYERS IN and give KING RON a FIGHTING CHANCE. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]well if you want a forum where you can swear to your hearts content then visit any of the many facebook forums. as it is this is an non-age restricted forum where fans come to express their opinions within the rules set out by the echo. those rules state that you are not allowed to post anything abusive. most of us are adults but there will be children who visit the site, mostly from poopey. as adults we should all be able to put our point across without the need for abusive language. don't get me wrong I`m no prude and can swear like a poopey whore on benefits day. however I am still able to restrict the use of abusive language when children are present. as you said this site is run by the daily echo and yes they do welcome the frank exchange of views, however they also set the site rules and if you are unable to post within those rules they will remove you from their site. not having a go at anyone by the way because the negs, wums and normal fans all break the rules. my feeling is that if it continues the echo may be forced to employ a moderator to run the forums as the news site has done. last time I looked on their, and it was a while ago, lots of posts get removed and it becomes difficult to get a coherent idea of what they are talking about, well more difficult than it normally is! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 5

11:04am Sat 2 Aug 14

george chivers says...

Alicesdad wrote:
What on Earth inspired a comment like his from the old boy? I generally respect his opinion but it sounds either like a bit of stirring by the press. or is he having a go at our board? I really don't know.

Frankly a bigger surpise is that Arsenal haven't won the Champions League. They have had some high quality players over the years , not just the ones we sold to them. But still they struggle to win anything and their only achhievement is qualifying for the Champions League..... again and again and again. Yawn... They have an amazing stadium and solid core fan base, yet still they under achieve. Im not having a go here, Im just reflecting that with all their money and long heritage its still very tough to progress and win anything substantial these days.

If we take his comments at face value, he is making a speculative pointt at best. We were very good last season but our final league position was fair based on our results. if we are honest we all know this is true. That team was excellent but I odubt it could have lived with the very big European teams.. lets be realistic.

For Saints the future might one day see us qualify for Champions League, not an easy ambition but still one that is not beyond our capability and certainly not beyond our means. But there is still a gap to be filled.

My view on our team last season was that despite it's brilliant flashes and top class start to the season, it still lacked "factor x". We had amazing team spirit - it was worth an extra man in some games - but we lacked one or two players that would have elevated the team to something sublime.

Champions League teams do not lose matches like the ones we slipped up in. A CL team is consistent throughout a season, we were brilliant until the Arsenal away game and then it collapsed rapidly. We regrouped OK but in the end our final position was about right.. we were not a "top four team" .... but we were on the right path.

We are still on the right path though. We have the right manager, we still have a solid core of excellent players with some new some new signings and more youth discoveries still on the way .. I still think we should make top half if everyone lives up to their billing.

The board needs to think through its strategy on communication though. A measured and consistent approach is better than bouts of silence followed by platitudes. The fans ar not stupid. The owners need to consder their stance too, some regular supportive poistive messages would change the current mood significantly. Katarina has a personality, we need to understand it better. I think the board is still learning on its feet. Sometimes that is how it has to be.


So thanks Arsene, you have stirred the bees nest, or the press has, whatever .... but the fans are starting to see the reality of the situation and are beginning to recognise that this probably not the start of the apocalypse but the dawn of a new regime. It's not a question of "what might have been".. its a question of "what might be" ...

Long live Ron, king of kings, look on his works, ye Mighty, and despair !!
If Wenger hadn't sold so many of his star players over the years Cole, Nasri, Fabregas, Van Persie, Adeybayour, etc he could have won the Champions League.

Arsenal are in a similar boat to us, but higher up the pecking order. They don't have enough money to pay high enough wages to win top competitions and keep good players (teams) together. But they do have the stadium and the support. That's what keeps them in the top six of the PL and us out of it.

The pot calling the kettle black I would say.
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: What on Earth inspired a comment like his from the old boy? I generally respect his opinion but it sounds either like a bit of stirring by the press. or is he having a go at our board? I really don't know. Frankly a bigger surpise is that Arsenal haven't won the Champions League. They have had some high quality players over the years , not just the ones we sold to them. But still they struggle to win anything and their only achhievement is qualifying for the Champions League..... again and again and again. Yawn... They have an amazing stadium and solid core fan base, yet still they under achieve. Im not having a go here, Im just reflecting that with all their money and long heritage its still very tough to progress and win anything substantial these days. If we take his comments at face value, he is making a speculative pointt at best. We were very good last season but our final league position was fair based on our results. if we are honest we all know this is true. That team was excellent but I odubt it could have lived with the very big European teams.. lets be realistic. For Saints the future might one day see us qualify for Champions League, not an easy ambition but still one that is not beyond our capability and certainly not beyond our means. But there is still a gap to be filled. My view on our team last season was that despite it's brilliant flashes and top class start to the season, it still lacked "factor x". We had amazing team spirit - it was worth an extra man in some games - but we lacked one or two players that would have elevated the team to something sublime. Champions League teams do not lose matches like the ones we slipped up in. A CL team is consistent throughout a season, we were brilliant until the Arsenal away game and then it collapsed rapidly. We regrouped OK but in the end our final position was about right.. we were not a "top four team" .... but we were on the right path. We are still on the right path though. We have the right manager, we still have a solid core of excellent players with some new some new signings and more youth discoveries still on the way .. I still think we should make top half if everyone lives up to their billing. The board needs to think through its strategy on communication though. A measured and consistent approach is better than bouts of silence followed by platitudes. The fans ar not stupid. The owners need to consder their stance too, some regular supportive poistive messages would change the current mood significantly. Katarina has a personality, we need to understand it better. I think the board is still learning on its feet. Sometimes that is how it has to be. So thanks Arsene, you have stirred the bees nest, or the press has, whatever .... but the fans are starting to see the reality of the situation and are beginning to recognise that this probably not the start of the apocalypse but the dawn of a new regime. It's not a question of "what might have been".. its a question of "what might be" ... Long live Ron, king of kings, look on his works, ye Mighty, and despair !![/p][/quote]If Wenger hadn't sold so many of his star players over the years Cole, Nasri, Fabregas, Van Persie, Adeybayour, etc he could have won the Champions League. Arsenal are in a similar boat to us, but higher up the pecking order. They don't have enough money to pay high enough wages to win top competitions and keep good players (teams) together. But they do have the stadium and the support. That's what keeps them in the top six of the PL and us out of it. The pot calling the kettle black I would say. george chivers
  • Score: 2

11:16am Sat 2 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

george chivers wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
What on Earth inspired a comment like his from the old boy? I generally respect his opinion but it sounds either like a bit of stirring by the press. or is he having a go at our board? I really don't know.

Frankly a bigger surpise is that Arsenal haven't won the Champions League. They have had some high quality players over the years , not just the ones we sold to them. But still they struggle to win anything and their only achhievement is qualifying for the Champions League..... again and again and again. Yawn... They have an amazing stadium and solid core fan base, yet still they under achieve. Im not having a go here, Im just reflecting that with all their money and long heritage its still very tough to progress and win anything substantial these days.

If we take his comments at face value, he is making a speculative pointt at best. We were very good last season but our final league position was fair based on our results. if we are honest we all know this is true. That team was excellent but I odubt it could have lived with the very big European teams.. lets be realistic.

For Saints the future might one day see us qualify for Champions League, not an easy ambition but still one that is not beyond our capability and certainly not beyond our means. But there is still a gap to be filled.

My view on our team last season was that despite it's brilliant flashes and top class start to the season, it still lacked "factor x". We had amazing team spirit - it was worth an extra man in some games - but we lacked one or two players that would have elevated the team to something sublime.

Champions League teams do not lose matches like the ones we slipped up in. A CL team is consistent throughout a season, we were brilliant until the Arsenal away game and then it collapsed rapidly. We regrouped OK but in the end our final position was about right.. we were not a "top four team" .... but we were on the right path.

We are still on the right path though. We have the right manager, we still have a solid core of excellent players with some new some new signings and more youth discoveries still on the way .. I still think we should make top half if everyone lives up to their billing.

The board needs to think through its strategy on communication though. A measured and consistent approach is better than bouts of silence followed by platitudes. The fans ar not stupid. The owners need to consder their stance too, some regular supportive poistive messages would change the current mood significantly. Katarina has a personality, we need to understand it better. I think the board is still learning on its feet. Sometimes that is how it has to be.


So thanks Arsene, you have stirred the bees nest, or the press has, whatever .... but the fans are starting to see the reality of the situation and are beginning to recognise that this probably not the start of the apocalypse but the dawn of a new regime. It's not a question of "what might have been".. its a question of "what might be" ...

Long live Ron, king of kings, look on his works, ye Mighty, and despair !!
If Wenger hadn't sold so many of his star players over the years Cole, Nasri, Fabregas, Van Persie, Adeybayour, etc he could have won the Champions League.

Arsenal are in a similar boat to us, but higher up the pecking order. They don't have enough money to pay high enough wages to win top competitions and keep good players (teams) together. But they do have the stadium and the support. That's what keeps them in the top six of the PL and us out of it.

The pot calling the kettle black I would say.
Agree Arsene Wenger loses credibility with his statement.

It is ARSE-NIL that could and should have done so much better - selling van Persie and Fabregas was not in the best interests of winning silverware ..

but then Arsene is in the pocket of the Board trying to keep his job and thinking of something clever OR NOT to say from time to time. COYR+WS
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: What on Earth inspired a comment like his from the old boy? I generally respect his opinion but it sounds either like a bit of stirring by the press. or is he having a go at our board? I really don't know. Frankly a bigger surpise is that Arsenal haven't won the Champions League. They have had some high quality players over the years , not just the ones we sold to them. But still they struggle to win anything and their only achhievement is qualifying for the Champions League..... again and again and again. Yawn... They have an amazing stadium and solid core fan base, yet still they under achieve. Im not having a go here, Im just reflecting that with all their money and long heritage its still very tough to progress and win anything substantial these days. If we take his comments at face value, he is making a speculative pointt at best. We were very good last season but our final league position was fair based on our results. if we are honest we all know this is true. That team was excellent but I odubt it could have lived with the very big European teams.. lets be realistic. For Saints the future might one day see us qualify for Champions League, not an easy ambition but still one that is not beyond our capability and certainly not beyond our means. But there is still a gap to be filled. My view on our team last season was that despite it's brilliant flashes and top class start to the season, it still lacked "factor x". We had amazing team spirit - it was worth an extra man in some games - but we lacked one or two players that would have elevated the team to something sublime. Champions League teams do not lose matches like the ones we slipped up in. A CL team is consistent throughout a season, we were brilliant until the Arsenal away game and then it collapsed rapidly. We regrouped OK but in the end our final position was about right.. we were not a "top four team" .... but we were on the right path. We are still on the right path though. We have the right manager, we still have a solid core of excellent players with some new some new signings and more youth discoveries still on the way .. I still think we should make top half if everyone lives up to their billing. The board needs to think through its strategy on communication though. A measured and consistent approach is better than bouts of silence followed by platitudes. The fans ar not stupid. The owners need to consder their stance too, some regular supportive poistive messages would change the current mood significantly. Katarina has a personality, we need to understand it better. I think the board is still learning on its feet. Sometimes that is how it has to be. So thanks Arsene, you have stirred the bees nest, or the press has, whatever .... but the fans are starting to see the reality of the situation and are beginning to recognise that this probably not the start of the apocalypse but the dawn of a new regime. It's not a question of "what might have been".. its a question of "what might be" ... Long live Ron, king of kings, look on his works, ye Mighty, and despair !![/p][/quote]If Wenger hadn't sold so many of his star players over the years Cole, Nasri, Fabregas, Van Persie, Adeybayour, etc he could have won the Champions League. Arsenal are in a similar boat to us, but higher up the pecking order. They don't have enough money to pay high enough wages to win top competitions and keep good players (teams) together. But they do have the stadium and the support. That's what keeps them in the top six of the PL and us out of it. The pot calling the kettle black I would say.[/p][/quote]Agree Arsene Wenger loses credibility with his statement. It is ARSE-NIL that could and should have done so much better - selling van Persie and Fabregas was not in the best interests of winning silverware .. but then Arsene is in the pocket of the Board trying to keep his job and thinking of something clever OR NOT to say from time to time. COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 1

11:36am Sat 2 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

george chivers wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
What on Earth inspired a comment like his from the old boy? I generally respect his opinion but it sounds either like a bit of stirring by the press. or is he having a go at our board? I really don't know.

Frankly a bigger surpise is that Arsenal haven't won the Champions League. They have had some high quality players over the years , not just the ones we sold to them. But still they struggle to win anything and their only achhievement is qualifying for the Champions League..... again and again and again. Yawn... They have an amazing stadium and solid core fan base, yet still they under achieve. Im not having a go here, Im just reflecting that with all their money and long heritage its still very tough to progress and win anything substantial these days.

If we take his comments at face value, he is making a speculative pointt at best. We were very good last season but our final league position was fair based on our results. if we are honest we all know this is true. That team was excellent but I odubt it could have lived with the very big European teams.. lets be realistic.

For Saints the future might one day see us qualify for Champions League, not an easy ambition but still one that is not beyond our capability and certainly not beyond our means. But there is still a gap to be filled.

My view on our team last season was that despite it's brilliant flashes and top class start to the season, it still lacked "factor x". We had amazing team spirit - it was worth an extra man in some games - but we lacked one or two players that would have elevated the team to something sublime.

Champions League teams do not lose matches like the ones we slipped up in. A CL team is consistent throughout a season, we were brilliant until the Arsenal away game and then it collapsed rapidly. We regrouped OK but in the end our final position was about right.. we were not a "top four team" .... but we were on the right path.

We are still on the right path though. We have the right manager, we still have a solid core of excellent players with some new some new signings and more youth discoveries still on the way .. I still think we should make top half if everyone lives up to their billing.

The board needs to think through its strategy on communication though. A measured and consistent approach is better than bouts of silence followed by platitudes. The fans ar not stupid. The owners need to consder their stance too, some regular supportive poistive messages would change the current mood significantly. Katarina has a personality, we need to understand it better. I think the board is still learning on its feet. Sometimes that is how it has to be.


So thanks Arsene, you have stirred the bees nest, or the press has, whatever .... but the fans are starting to see the reality of the situation and are beginning to recognise that this probably not the start of the apocalypse but the dawn of a new regime. It's not a question of "what might have been".. its a question of "what might be" ...

Long live Ron, king of kings, look on his works, ye Mighty, and despair !!
If Wenger hadn't sold so many of his star players over the years Cole, Nasri, Fabregas, Van Persie, Adeybayour, etc he could have won the Champions League.

Arsenal are in a similar boat to us, but higher up the pecking order. They don't have enough money to pay high enough wages to win top competitions and keep good players (teams) together. But they do have the stadium and the support. That's what keeps them in the top six of the PL and us out of it.

The pot calling the kettle black I would say.
Wenger has in my book played an absolute blinder. The development of their ground was huge, they had to build roads, relocate industrial estates and much more. Far more involved than building on a greenfield site at Hedge End. As a result it cost £400m!

The consequences were they could massively increase revenue streams but obviously carried large debt. Wenger sold players for top dollar and bought wisely meaning they competed but weren't going to win anything. Now that debt is paid down they can really compete and aim to win things.

We could sign loan players and spend all the money from the sales on a new ground accepting that we will not compete for a while and just aim to stay in the Prem in the short term.

But then that would take vision and we've got Ralph.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: What on Earth inspired a comment like his from the old boy? I generally respect his opinion but it sounds either like a bit of stirring by the press. or is he having a go at our board? I really don't know. Frankly a bigger surpise is that Arsenal haven't won the Champions League. They have had some high quality players over the years , not just the ones we sold to them. But still they struggle to win anything and their only achhievement is qualifying for the Champions League..... again and again and again. Yawn... They have an amazing stadium and solid core fan base, yet still they under achieve. Im not having a go here, Im just reflecting that with all their money and long heritage its still very tough to progress and win anything substantial these days. If we take his comments at face value, he is making a speculative pointt at best. We were very good last season but our final league position was fair based on our results. if we are honest we all know this is true. That team was excellent but I odubt it could have lived with the very big European teams.. lets be realistic. For Saints the future might one day see us qualify for Champions League, not an easy ambition but still one that is not beyond our capability and certainly not beyond our means. But there is still a gap to be filled. My view on our team last season was that despite it's brilliant flashes and top class start to the season, it still lacked "factor x". We had amazing team spirit - it was worth an extra man in some games - but we lacked one or two players that would have elevated the team to something sublime. Champions League teams do not lose matches like the ones we slipped up in. A CL team is consistent throughout a season, we were brilliant until the Arsenal away game and then it collapsed rapidly. We regrouped OK but in the end our final position was about right.. we were not a "top four team" .... but we were on the right path. We are still on the right path though. We have the right manager, we still have a solid core of excellent players with some new some new signings and more youth discoveries still on the way .. I still think we should make top half if everyone lives up to their billing. The board needs to think through its strategy on communication though. A measured and consistent approach is better than bouts of silence followed by platitudes. The fans ar not stupid. The owners need to consder their stance too, some regular supportive poistive messages would change the current mood significantly. Katarina has a personality, we need to understand it better. I think the board is still learning on its feet. Sometimes that is how it has to be. So thanks Arsene, you have stirred the bees nest, or the press has, whatever .... but the fans are starting to see the reality of the situation and are beginning to recognise that this probably not the start of the apocalypse but the dawn of a new regime. It's not a question of "what might have been".. its a question of "what might be" ... Long live Ron, king of kings, look on his works, ye Mighty, and despair !![/p][/quote]If Wenger hadn't sold so many of his star players over the years Cole, Nasri, Fabregas, Van Persie, Adeybayour, etc he could have won the Champions League. Arsenal are in a similar boat to us, but higher up the pecking order. They don't have enough money to pay high enough wages to win top competitions and keep good players (teams) together. But they do have the stadium and the support. That's what keeps them in the top six of the PL and us out of it. The pot calling the kettle black I would say.[/p][/quote]Wenger has in my book played an absolute blinder. The development of their ground was huge, they had to build roads, relocate industrial estates and much more. Far more involved than building on a greenfield site at Hedge End. As a result it cost £400m! The consequences were they could massively increase revenue streams but obviously carried large debt. Wenger sold players for top dollar and bought wisely meaning they competed but weren't going to win anything. Now that debt is paid down they can really compete and aim to win things. We could sign loan players and spend all the money from the sales on a new ground accepting that we will not compete for a while and just aim to stay in the Prem in the short term. But then that would take vision and we've got Ralph. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -4

12:01pm Sat 2 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
What on Earth inspired a comment like his from the old boy? I generally respect his opinion but it sounds either like a bit of stirring by the press. or is he having a go at our board? I really don't know.

Frankly a bigger surpise is that Arsenal haven't won the Champions League. They have had some high quality players over the years , not just the ones we sold to them. But still they struggle to win anything and their only achhievement is qualifying for the Champions League..... again and again and again. Yawn... They have an amazing stadium and solid core fan base, yet still they under achieve. Im not having a go here, Im just reflecting that with all their money and long heritage its still very tough to progress and win anything substantial these days.

If we take his comments at face value, he is making a speculative pointt at best. We were very good last season but our final league position was fair based on our results. if we are honest we all know this is true. That team was excellent but I odubt it could have lived with the very big European teams.. lets be realistic.

For Saints the future might one day see us qualify for Champions League, not an easy ambition but still one that is not beyond our capability and certainly not beyond our means. But there is still a gap to be filled.

My view on our team last season was that despite it's brilliant flashes and top class start to the season, it still lacked "factor x". We had amazing team spirit - it was worth an extra man in some games - but we lacked one or two players that would have elevated the team to something sublime.

Champions League teams do not lose matches like the ones we slipped up in. A CL team is consistent throughout a season, we were brilliant until the Arsenal away game and then it collapsed rapidly. We regrouped OK but in the end our final position was about right.. we were not a "top four team" .... but we were on the right path.

We are still on the right path though. We have the right manager, we still have a solid core of excellent players with some new some new signings and more youth discoveries still on the way .. I still think we should make top half if everyone lives up to their billing.

The board needs to think through its strategy on communication though. A measured and consistent approach is better than bouts of silence followed by platitudes. The fans ar not stupid. The owners need to consder their stance too, some regular supportive poistive messages would change the current mood significantly. Katarina has a personality, we need to understand it better. I think the board is still learning on its feet. Sometimes that is how it has to be.


So thanks Arsene, you have stirred the bees nest, or the press has, whatever .... but the fans are starting to see the reality of the situation and are beginning to recognise that this probably not the start of the apocalypse but the dawn of a new regime. It's not a question of "what might have been".. its a question of "what might be" ...

Long live Ron, king of kings, look on his works, ye Mighty, and despair !!
If Wenger hadn't sold so many of his star players over the years Cole, Nasri, Fabregas, Van Persie, Adeybayour, etc he could have won the Champions League.

Arsenal are in a similar boat to us, but higher up the pecking order. They don't have enough money to pay high enough wages to win top competitions and keep good players (teams) together. But they do have the stadium and the support. That's what keeps them in the top six of the PL and us out of it.

The pot calling the kettle black I would say.
Wenger has in my book played an absolute blinder. The development of their ground was huge, they had to build roads, relocate industrial estates and much more. Far more involved than building on a greenfield site at Hedge End. As a result it cost £400m!

The consequences were they could massively increase revenue streams but obviously carried large debt. Wenger sold players for top dollar and bought wisely meaning they competed but weren't going to win anything. Now that debt is paid down they can really compete and aim to win things.

We could sign loan players and spend all the money from the sales on a new ground accepting that we will not compete for a while and just aim to stay in the Prem in the short term.

But then that would take vision and we've got Ralph.
Fantastic Post.

WE COULD achieve so much - including a new Ground and with astute player dealings maintain Premier League Status. That is not dreaming - it is very much achievable.

YOU'R RIGHT - disappointingly we have Ralph. Perhaps Katerina will at some point see RK for who he really is and there will be change.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: What on Earth inspired a comment like his from the old boy? I generally respect his opinion but it sounds either like a bit of stirring by the press. or is he having a go at our board? I really don't know. Frankly a bigger surpise is that Arsenal haven't won the Champions League. They have had some high quality players over the years , not just the ones we sold to them. But still they struggle to win anything and their only achhievement is qualifying for the Champions League..... again and again and again. Yawn... They have an amazing stadium and solid core fan base, yet still they under achieve. Im not having a go here, Im just reflecting that with all their money and long heritage its still very tough to progress and win anything substantial these days. If we take his comments at face value, he is making a speculative pointt at best. We were very good last season but our final league position was fair based on our results. if we are honest we all know this is true. That team was excellent but I odubt it could have lived with the very big European teams.. lets be realistic. For Saints the future might one day see us qualify for Champions League, not an easy ambition but still one that is not beyond our capability and certainly not beyond our means. But there is still a gap to be filled. My view on our team last season was that despite it's brilliant flashes and top class start to the season, it still lacked "factor x". We had amazing team spirit - it was worth an extra man in some games - but we lacked one or two players that would have elevated the team to something sublime. Champions League teams do not lose matches like the ones we slipped up in. A CL team is consistent throughout a season, we were brilliant until the Arsenal away game and then it collapsed rapidly. We regrouped OK but in the end our final position was about right.. we were not a "top four team" .... but we were on the right path. We are still on the right path though. We have the right manager, we still have a solid core of excellent players with some new some new signings and more youth discoveries still on the way .. I still think we should make top half if everyone lives up to their billing. The board needs to think through its strategy on communication though. A measured and consistent approach is better than bouts of silence followed by platitudes. The fans ar not stupid. The owners need to consder their stance too, some regular supportive poistive messages would change the current mood significantly. Katarina has a personality, we need to understand it better. I think the board is still learning on its feet. Sometimes that is how it has to be. So thanks Arsene, you have stirred the bees nest, or the press has, whatever .... but the fans are starting to see the reality of the situation and are beginning to recognise that this probably not the start of the apocalypse but the dawn of a new regime. It's not a question of "what might have been".. its a question of "what might be" ... Long live Ron, king of kings, look on his works, ye Mighty, and despair !![/p][/quote]If Wenger hadn't sold so many of his star players over the years Cole, Nasri, Fabregas, Van Persie, Adeybayour, etc he could have won the Champions League. Arsenal are in a similar boat to us, but higher up the pecking order. They don't have enough money to pay high enough wages to win top competitions and keep good players (teams) together. But they do have the stadium and the support. That's what keeps them in the top six of the PL and us out of it. The pot calling the kettle black I would say.[/p][/quote]Wenger has in my book played an absolute blinder. The development of their ground was huge, they had to build roads, relocate industrial estates and much more. Far more involved than building on a greenfield site at Hedge End. As a result it cost £400m! The consequences were they could massively increase revenue streams but obviously carried large debt. Wenger sold players for top dollar and bought wisely meaning they competed but weren't going to win anything. Now that debt is paid down they can really compete and aim to win things. We could sign loan players and spend all the money from the sales on a new ground accepting that we will not compete for a while and just aim to stay in the Prem in the short term. But then that would take vision and we've got Ralph.[/p][/quote]Fantastic Post. WE COULD achieve so much - including a new Ground and with astute player dealings maintain Premier League Status. That is not dreaming - it is very much achievable. YOU'R RIGHT - disappointingly we have Ralph. Perhaps Katerina will at some point see RK for who he really is and there will be change. The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: -2

12:19pm Sat 2 Aug 14

footballfan123 says...

Just a comment on a completely different note. Some fans were singing Lamberts name at Brighton. Please DO NOT do this! At Liverpool, especially, we need to get behind our own team and players. Lambert, although with respect, decided to leave Southampton Football Club, would have kicked up a huge fuss if we had said no. Yes he did a good job for us on lots of money, but that' his job. We bought him to score goals. Although I will clap him and don't feel as upset with him as I do the others who have left, he is still one of our rivals now. He could score a hat trick against us on the opening day! He is a Liverpool fan and cares more about them than he does us. Do not sing the name of opposition players! We want to put him off at Anfield not spur him on! Forget him. He decided he would leave us! Please DO NOT sing his name!
Just a comment on a completely different note. Some fans were singing Lamberts name at Brighton. Please DO NOT do this! At Liverpool, especially, we need to get behind our own team and players. Lambert, although with respect, decided to leave Southampton Football Club, would have kicked up a huge fuss if we had said no. Yes he did a good job for us on lots of money, but that' his job. We bought him to score goals. Although I will clap him and don't feel as upset with him as I do the others who have left, he is still one of our rivals now. He could score a hat trick against us on the opening day! He is a Liverpool fan and cares more about them than he does us. Do not sing the name of opposition players! We want to put him off at Anfield not spur him on! Forget him. He decided he would leave us! Please DO NOT sing his name! footballfan123
  • Score: 8

12:21pm Sat 2 Aug 14

AucklandSaint says...

This is what ESPN says about our the Saints and RK prospects for next season:

This season has the potential to be a car crash for Southampton and Ronald Koeman (14/1). Selling two or three of their star players was to be expected after last season, but the five that have gone so far (with, at the time of writing, another couple to potentially follow) represents the heart and several other vital organs of their team. If Koeman's army of Eredivisie replacements don't shape up, his tenure on the south coast could be pretty brief.
This is what ESPN says about our the Saints and RK prospects for next season: This season has the potential to be a car crash for Southampton and Ronald Koeman (14/1). Selling two or three of their star players was to be expected after last season, but the five that have gone so far (with, at the time of writing, another couple to potentially follow) represents the heart and several other vital organs of their team. If Koeman's army of Eredivisie replacements don't shape up, his tenure on the south coast could be pretty brief. AucklandSaint
  • Score: 1

12:23pm Sat 2 Aug 14

footballfan123 says...

AucklandSaint wrote:
This is what ESPN says about our the Saints and RK prospects for next season:

This season has the potential to be a car crash for Southampton and Ronald Koeman (14/1). Selling two or three of their star players was to be expected after last season, but the five that have gone so far (with, at the time of writing, another couple to potentially follow) represents the heart and several other vital organs of their team. If Koeman's army of Eredivisie replacements don't shape up, his tenure on the south coast could be pretty brief.
we will have to wait and see. Who knows how our season will pan out!
[quote][p][bold]AucklandSaint[/bold] wrote: This is what ESPN says about our the Saints and RK prospects for next season: This season has the potential to be a car crash for Southampton and Ronald Koeman (14/1). Selling two or three of their star players was to be expected after last season, but the five that have gone so far (with, at the time of writing, another couple to potentially follow) represents the heart and several other vital organs of their team. If Koeman's army of Eredivisie replacements don't shape up, his tenure on the south coast could be pretty brief.[/p][/quote]we will have to wait and see. Who knows how our season will pan out! footballfan123
  • Score: 2

12:31pm Sat 2 Aug 14

footballfan123 says...

Arsene is right. It's stupid him saying it though as he is the one who steals our players! If we had kept our team together, and spent say 30 million to add to what we already had, we could have finished (possibly) in the top 4. The fact that 5 players have gone to top 4 clubs says it all! They must be good enough to play the champs league or they would not have been bought by top 4 clubs! Those younger players would also get better and better with experience. We could have just said "Right, we are ambitious and we are going to go for it! Nobody will be sold! Get us in champs league and you will all get huge bonuses" The financial rewards of the champions league would have paid for it! Instead we have sold our best players showing that we happy just to stay in the league!
Arsene is right. It's stupid him saying it though as he is the one who steals our players! If we had kept our team together, and spent say 30 million to add to what we already had, we could have finished (possibly) in the top 4. The fact that 5 players have gone to top 4 clubs says it all! They must be good enough to play the champs league or they would not have been bought by top 4 clubs! Those younger players would also get better and better with experience. We could have just said "Right, we are ambitious and we are going to go for it! Nobody will be sold! Get us in champs league and you will all get huge bonuses" The financial rewards of the champions league would have paid for it! Instead we have sold our best players showing that we happy just to stay in the league! footballfan123
  • Score: 0

12:31pm Sat 2 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

seed I think ralph has huge vision for the club.
our usp is our academy so build on the academy name around the world by building `saints fc` academies around the word, that's what he was sorting out in the states by all accounts.
the fact that we have produced he worlds most expensive player and the worlds most expensive teenager makes the saints academy the brand to build on.
even if it means selling some of the players, kids and parents will know that we are the academy to go to.
the usa is becoming a huge market for football, bring kids through a US academy into the club and we will become big name over there.
we can then build academies around the world, maybe even 2 or 3 in the states.
imagine the amount of players from around the world that we could pick up! get those players into the team and we would increase our fan base. they would buy the shirts and we would then be in a position to have a global brand on the shirt.
we picked up lots of fans from japan because of lee and Yoshi. our notoriety increased massively in Zambia when we signed mayuka as well!
you have already said that our team cost little to put together last year, so imagine if we were able to put out a team academy graduates, we could then offer them higher wages as we wouldn't need such a big transfer budget.
increase the worldwide fan base and we could then build a nice big stadium that fans from all over would visit.
we could become a self sustaining club that produces the best players in the world. then we would truly be a force in word football.
i think that is a real vision for the club and one that wouldn't cost a huge amount to start up. give ralph a chance and see where it takes us.

I would go even further than just an academy in the states, I would stat an MLS team over there. maybe in boston and call it the `new England saints`. they would of course play in red and white stripes. we could then send some of our academy graduates over there for a season or 2 and give them much needed game time, whilst keeping them under the `saints` umbrella. we could also bring the best of their players over here.
seed I think ralph has huge vision for the club. our usp is our academy so build on the academy name around the world by building `saints fc` academies around the word, that's what he was sorting out in the states by all accounts. the fact that we have produced he worlds most expensive player and the worlds most expensive teenager makes the saints academy the brand to build on. even if it means selling some of the players, kids and parents will know that we are the academy to go to. the usa is becoming a huge market for football, bring kids through a US academy into the club and we will become big name over there. we can then build academies around the world, maybe even 2 or 3 in the states. imagine the amount of players from around the world that we could pick up! get those players into the team and we would increase our fan base. they would buy the shirts and we would then be in a position to have a global brand on the shirt. we picked up lots of fans from japan because of lee and Yoshi. our notoriety increased massively in Zambia when we signed mayuka as well! you have already said that our team cost little to put together last year, so imagine if we were able to put out a team academy graduates, we could then offer them higher wages as we wouldn't need such a big transfer budget. increase the worldwide fan base and we could then build a nice big stadium that fans from all over would visit. we could become a self sustaining club that produces the best players in the world. then we would truly be a force in word football. i think that is a real vision for the club and one that wouldn't cost a huge amount to start up. give ralph a chance and see where it takes us. I would go even further than just an academy in the states, I would stat an MLS team over there. maybe in boston and call it the `new England saints`. they would of course play in red and white stripes. we could then send some of our academy graduates over there for a season or 2 and give them much needed game time, whilst keeping them under the `saints` umbrella. we could also bring the best of their players over here. de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 4

12:36pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Scored raw says...

promised land wrote:
Look what you could have won with us Lielana, Shaw, Lovren, Chambers ? Oh well your loss.....Saints F.C onwards and upwards.
AND if saints produce the same quality with this team, t h e n saints w I l l have the same old gannets perched ready to poach next season. D I d winger tell you that as well
[quote][p][bold]promised land[/bold] wrote: Look what you could have won with us Lielana, Shaw, Lovren, Chambers ? Oh well your loss.....Saints F.C onwards and upwards.[/p][/quote]AND if saints produce the same quality with this team, t h e n saints w I l l have the same old gannets perched ready to poach next season. D I d winger tell you that as well Scored raw
  • Score: 0

12:40pm Sat 2 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

thinklikealocal wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
FIGHT AND WIN. COYR

RULE 1 OF THIS CLUB - WE DON'T FIGHT OTHER SAINTS FANS.

This Forum does produce wide ranging views of a variety of subjects all things Saints - and that is a GOOD THING.

There is RECOGNITION from the Independents and from within the Club that the current members of the BOARD made some BASIC MISTAKES.

There is also the ACCEPTANCE that when we wanted STRONG LEADERSHIP - Ralph Krueger did not deliver this.

Regarding the PROTEST - Support for this is waning and if we get in 2 or 3 new Players - the Protest will not go ahead as planned.

We must strengthen at CB and additional Number 1 Keeper as a minimum.

The RELEGATION Odds are falling as punters put money on the Southampton Drop. We have posted at length how we got to this point from a very strong position in the League.

What happens next is VITAL.

GET BEHIND THE MANAGER AND THE PLAYERS. COYR+WS
How about rule 2 being no use of gratuitous and unnecessary profanities?
How about Rule 3
You and your PC Police Squad actually come on here and discuss Saints and football related topics or just join in with a few people having a laugh about something, rather than continuously banging on about what you think everyone should do.
COYR FOADP
[quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: FIGHT AND WIN. COYR RULE 1 OF THIS CLUB - WE DON'T FIGHT OTHER SAINTS FANS. This Forum does produce wide ranging views of a variety of subjects all things Saints - and that is a GOOD THING. There is RECOGNITION from the Independents and from within the Club that the current members of the BOARD made some BASIC MISTAKES. There is also the ACCEPTANCE that when we wanted STRONG LEADERSHIP - Ralph Krueger did not deliver this. Regarding the PROTEST - Support for this is waning and if we get in 2 or 3 new Players - the Protest will not go ahead as planned. We must strengthen at CB and additional Number 1 Keeper as a minimum. The RELEGATION Odds are falling as punters put money on the Southampton Drop. We have posted at length how we got to this point from a very strong position in the League. What happens next is VITAL. GET BEHIND THE MANAGER AND THE PLAYERS. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]How about rule 2 being no use of gratuitous and unnecessary profanities?[/p][/quote]How about Rule 3 You and your PC Police Squad actually come on here and discuss Saints and football related topics or just join in with a few people having a laugh about something, rather than continuously banging on about what you think everyone should do. COYR FOADP J7junctionseven
  • Score: 2

12:54pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

Horse, "we picked up lots of fans from japan because of lee and Yoshi."

Unfortunately, we didn't. A few came to some of our matches to see them play. We also get on TV (mostly pay satellite TV) when Yoshida plays regularly, and disappear when he doesn't. When we are on, the commentators are usually very positive about us. Ask around though, the average Japanese person has still never heard of us. Its all Kagawa and ManU, in that order.
Horse, "we picked up lots of fans from japan because of lee and Yoshi." Unfortunately, we didn't. A few came to some of our matches to see them play. We also get on TV (mostly pay satellite TV) when Yoshida plays regularly, and disappear when he doesn't. When we are on, the commentators are usually very positive about us. Ask around though, the average Japanese person has still never heard of us. Its all Kagawa and ManU, in that order. Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

1:02pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Enrico Palazzo says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
FIGHT AND WIN. COYR

RULE 1 OF THIS CLUB - WE DON'T FIGHT OTHER SAINTS FANS.

This Forum does produce wide ranging views of a variety of subjects all things Saints - and that is a GOOD THING.

There is RECOGNITION from the Independents and from within the Club that the current members of the BOARD made some BASIC MISTAKES.

There is also the ACCEPTANCE that when we wanted STRONG LEADERSHIP - Ralph Krueger did not deliver this.

Regarding the PROTEST - Support for this is waning and if we get in 2 or 3 new Players - the Protest will not go ahead as planned.

We must strengthen at CB and additional Number 1 Keeper as a minimum.

The RELEGATION Odds are falling as punters put money on the Southampton Drop. We have posted at length how we got to this point from a very strong position in the League.

What happens next is VITAL.

GET BEHIND THE MANAGER AND THE PLAYERS. COYR+WS
How about rule 2 being no use of gratuitous and unnecessary profanities?
How about Rule 3
You and your PC Police Squad actually come on here and discuss Saints and football related topics or just join in with a few people having a laugh about something, rather than continuously banging on about what you think everyone should do.
COYR FOADP
Rule 4
Make less rules, make more signings!
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: FIGHT AND WIN. COYR RULE 1 OF THIS CLUB - WE DON'T FIGHT OTHER SAINTS FANS. This Forum does produce wide ranging views of a variety of subjects all things Saints - and that is a GOOD THING. There is RECOGNITION from the Independents and from within the Club that the current members of the BOARD made some BASIC MISTAKES. There is also the ACCEPTANCE that when we wanted STRONG LEADERSHIP - Ralph Krueger did not deliver this. Regarding the PROTEST - Support for this is waning and if we get in 2 or 3 new Players - the Protest will not go ahead as planned. We must strengthen at CB and additional Number 1 Keeper as a minimum. The RELEGATION Odds are falling as punters put money on the Southampton Drop. We have posted at length how we got to this point from a very strong position in the League. What happens next is VITAL. GET BEHIND THE MANAGER AND THE PLAYERS. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]How about rule 2 being no use of gratuitous and unnecessary profanities?[/p][/quote]How about Rule 3 You and your PC Police Squad actually come on here and discuss Saints and football related topics or just join in with a few people having a laugh about something, rather than continuously banging on about what you think everyone should do. COYR FOADP[/p][/quote]Rule 4 Make less rules, make more signings! Enrico Palazzo
  • Score: 0

1:03pm Sat 2 Aug 14

long memory says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
FIGHT AND WIN. COYR

RULE 1 OF THIS CLUB - WE DON'T FIGHT OTHER SAINTS FANS.

This Forum does produce wide ranging views of a variety of subjects all things Saints - and that is a GOOD THING.

There is RECOGNITION from the Independents and from within the Club that the current members of the BOARD made some BASIC MISTAKES.

There is also the ACCEPTANCE that when we wanted STRONG LEADERSHIP - Ralph Krueger did not deliver this.

Regarding the PROTEST - Support for this is waning and if we get in 2 or 3 new Players - the Protest will not go ahead as planned.

We must strengthen at CB and additional Number 1 Keeper as a minimum.

The RELEGATION Odds are falling as punters put money on the Southampton Drop. We have posted at length how we got to this point from a very strong position in the League.

What happens next is VITAL.

GET BEHIND THE MANAGER AND THE PLAYERS. COYR+WS
How about rule 2 being no use of gratuitous and unnecessary profanities?
CHANGING SUBJECT RADICALLY ...

You are now getting in to Forum Rules - it has been posted by others before now...

THIS IS A FOOTBALL FORUM where passionate Fans say their bit - whether good or bad or whether they change their minds two minutes later.

This Forum is run by DAILY ECHO that welcomes frank interchange of views- it is not run by the Local Vicar for the Village Magazine.

TRY the Saints Forum - Ugly Inside - etc if you want a different Product.

THE FOCUS is not on the Forum and what one Fan or another may or may not have posted ...

THE FOCUS IS THE START OF THE FOOTBALL SEASON.

LET'S GET THE PLAYERS IN and give KING RON a FIGHTING CHANCE.
COYR+WS
well if you want a forum where you can swear to your hearts content then visit any of the many facebook forums.
as it is this is an non-age restricted forum where fans come to express their opinions within the rules set out by the echo. those rules state that you are not allowed to post anything abusive.
most of us are adults but there will be children who visit the site, mostly from poopey. as adults we should all be able to put our point across without the need for abusive language.
don't get me wrong I`m no prude and can swear like a poopey whore on benefits day. however I am still able to restrict the use of abusive language when children are present.
as you said this site is run by the daily echo and yes they do welcome the frank exchange of views, however they also set the site rules and if you are unable to post within those rules they will remove you from their site.
not having a go at anyone by the way because the negs, wums and normal fans all break the rules.
my feeling is that if it continues the echo may be forced to employ a moderator to run the forums as the news site has done. last time I looked on their, and it was a while ago, lots of posts get removed and it becomes difficult to get a coherent idea of what they are talking about, well more difficult than it normally is!
In 100% agreement with youDe Heiligen.
I have two grandsons (both saints season ticket holders) aged 10 and 12 who come onto this forum daily,especially in recent times,as they are as concerned as we all are to what is going on at our beloved Saints,and I find some of the abusive language totally unacceptable and I personally don't want my grandsons reading such filth thank you.
As for the abuse thrown at the board because some of the fans don't like what is going on at times,I find pathetic,and as I have said before, most people must have instant gratification,or they start throwing their toys out of the pram.
As for the insulting remarks about KL, some of you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves,personall
y I would ban you from coming onto this forum.
I am all for people expressing their views,that is healthy,but there is a correct way of doing it not calling the owner F** K**,and I'm afraid that some of you think the louder you shout or act in an abusive manner,you will win the argument,wrong.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: FIGHT AND WIN. COYR RULE 1 OF THIS CLUB - WE DON'T FIGHT OTHER SAINTS FANS. This Forum does produce wide ranging views of a variety of subjects all things Saints - and that is a GOOD THING. There is RECOGNITION from the Independents and from within the Club that the current members of the BOARD made some BASIC MISTAKES. There is also the ACCEPTANCE that when we wanted STRONG LEADERSHIP - Ralph Krueger did not deliver this. Regarding the PROTEST - Support for this is waning and if we get in 2 or 3 new Players - the Protest will not go ahead as planned. We must strengthen at CB and additional Number 1 Keeper as a minimum. The RELEGATION Odds are falling as punters put money on the Southampton Drop. We have posted at length how we got to this point from a very strong position in the League. What happens next is VITAL. GET BEHIND THE MANAGER AND THE PLAYERS. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]How about rule 2 being no use of gratuitous and unnecessary profanities?[/p][/quote]CHANGING SUBJECT RADICALLY ... You are now getting in to Forum Rules - it has been posted by others before now... THIS IS A FOOTBALL FORUM where passionate Fans say their bit - whether good or bad or whether they change their minds two minutes later. This Forum is run by DAILY ECHO that welcomes frank interchange of views- it is not run by the Local Vicar for the Village Magazine. TRY the Saints Forum - Ugly Inside - etc if you want a different Product. THE FOCUS is not on the Forum and what one Fan or another may or may not have posted ... THE FOCUS IS THE START OF THE FOOTBALL SEASON. LET'S GET THE PLAYERS IN and give KING RON a FIGHTING CHANCE. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]well if you want a forum where you can swear to your hearts content then visit any of the many facebook forums. as it is this is an non-age restricted forum where fans come to express their opinions within the rules set out by the echo. those rules state that you are not allowed to post anything abusive. most of us are adults but there will be children who visit the site, mostly from poopey. as adults we should all be able to put our point across without the need for abusive language. don't get me wrong I`m no prude and can swear like a poopey whore on benefits day. however I am still able to restrict the use of abusive language when children are present. as you said this site is run by the daily echo and yes they do welcome the frank exchange of views, however they also set the site rules and if you are unable to post within those rules they will remove you from their site. not having a go at anyone by the way because the negs, wums and normal fans all break the rules. my feeling is that if it continues the echo may be forced to employ a moderator to run the forums as the news site has done. last time I looked on their, and it was a while ago, lots of posts get removed and it becomes difficult to get a coherent idea of what they are talking about, well more difficult than it normally is![/p][/quote]In 100% agreement with youDe Heiligen. I have two grandsons (both saints season ticket holders) aged 10 and 12 who come onto this forum daily,especially in recent times,as they are as concerned as we all are to what is going on at our beloved Saints,and I find some of the abusive language totally unacceptable and I personally don't want my grandsons reading such filth thank you. As for the abuse thrown at the board because some of the fans don't like what is going on at times,I find pathetic,and as I have said before, most people must have instant gratification,or they start throwing their toys out of the pram. As for the insulting remarks about KL, some of you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves,personall y I would ban you from coming onto this forum. I am all for people expressing their views,that is healthy,but there is a correct way of doing it not calling the owner F** K**,and I'm afraid that some of you think the louder you shout or act in an abusive manner,you will win the argument,wrong. long memory
  • Score: 10

1:07pm Sat 2 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Horse, "we picked up lots of fans from japan because of lee and Yoshi."

Unfortunately, we didn't. A few came to some of our matches to see them play. We also get on TV (mostly pay satellite TV) when Yoshida plays regularly, and disappear when he doesn't. When we are on, the commentators are usually very positive about us. Ask around though, the average Japanese person has still never heard of us. Its all Kagawa and ManU, in that order.
my point was that we got people from japan to come to sms. unfortunately we will always be in the shadow of manure, with kagawa, because they are a global brand.
how would we do if we started an academy over there and brought through the top players ourselves?
what coverage did we get out there before lee joined? I bet we get more now. again woulndnt that increase if we started producing the players?
genuine questions because s I said our academy is our usp and I really think that is the way for us to become a global brand, get everyone talking and raving about the saints academy network and brand.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: Horse, "we picked up lots of fans from japan because of lee and Yoshi." Unfortunately, we didn't. A few came to some of our matches to see them play. We also get on TV (mostly pay satellite TV) when Yoshida plays regularly, and disappear when he doesn't. When we are on, the commentators are usually very positive about us. Ask around though, the average Japanese person has still never heard of us. Its all Kagawa and ManU, in that order.[/p][/quote]my point was that we got people from japan to come to sms. unfortunately we will always be in the shadow of manure, with kagawa, because they are a global brand. how would we do if we started an academy over there and brought through the top players ourselves? what coverage did we get out there before lee joined? I bet we get more now. again woulndnt that increase if we started producing the players? genuine questions because s I said our academy is our usp and I really think that is the way for us to become a global brand, get everyone talking and raving about the saints academy network and brand. de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 0

1:08pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Enrico Palazzo says...

long memory wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
FIGHT AND WIN. COYR

RULE 1 OF THIS CLUB - WE DON'T FIGHT OTHER SAINTS FANS.

This Forum does produce wide ranging views of a variety of subjects all things Saints - and that is a GOOD THING.

There is RECOGNITION from the Independents and from within the Club that the current members of the BOARD made some BASIC MISTAKES.

There is also the ACCEPTANCE that when we wanted STRONG LEADERSHIP - Ralph Krueger did not deliver this.

Regarding the PROTEST - Support for this is waning and if we get in 2 or 3 new Players - the Protest will not go ahead as planned.

We must strengthen at CB and additional Number 1 Keeper as a minimum.

The RELEGATION Odds are falling as punters put money on the Southampton Drop. We have posted at length how we got to this point from a very strong position in the League.

What happens next is VITAL.

GET BEHIND THE MANAGER AND THE PLAYERS. COYR+WS
How about rule 2 being no use of gratuitous and unnecessary profanities?
CHANGING SUBJECT RADICALLY ...

You are now getting in to Forum Rules - it has been posted by others before now...

THIS IS A FOOTBALL FORUM where passionate Fans say their bit - whether good or bad or whether they change their minds two minutes later.

This Forum is run by DAILY ECHO that welcomes frank interchange of views- it is not run by the Local Vicar for the Village Magazine.

TRY the Saints Forum - Ugly Inside - etc if you want a different Product.

THE FOCUS is not on the Forum and what one Fan or another may or may not have posted ...

THE FOCUS IS THE START OF THE FOOTBALL SEASON.

LET'S GET THE PLAYERS IN and give KING RON a FIGHTING CHANCE.
COYR+WS
well if you want a forum where you can swear to your hearts content then visit any of the many facebook forums.
as it is this is an non-age restricted forum where fans come to express their opinions within the rules set out by the echo. those rules state that you are not allowed to post anything abusive.
most of us are adults but there will be children who visit the site, mostly from poopey. as adults we should all be able to put our point across without the need for abusive language.
don't get me wrong I`m no prude and can swear like a poopey whore on benefits day. however I am still able to restrict the use of abusive language when children are present.
as you said this site is run by the daily echo and yes they do welcome the frank exchange of views, however they also set the site rules and if you are unable to post within those rules they will remove you from their site.
not having a go at anyone by the way because the negs, wums and normal fans all break the rules.
my feeling is that if it continues the echo may be forced to employ a moderator to run the forums as the news site has done. last time I looked on their, and it was a while ago, lots of posts get removed and it becomes difficult to get a coherent idea of what they are talking about, well more difficult than it normally is!
In 100% agreement with youDe Heiligen.
I have two grandsons (both saints season ticket holders) aged 10 and 12 who come onto this forum daily,especially in recent times,as they are as concerned as we all are to what is going on at our beloved Saints,and I find some of the abusive language totally unacceptable and I personally don't want my grandsons reading such filth thank you.
As for the abuse thrown at the board because some of the fans don't like what is going on at times,I find pathetic,and as I have said before, most people must have instant gratification,or they start throwing their toys out of the pram.
As for the insulting remarks about KL, some of you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves,personall

y I would ban you from coming onto this forum.
I am all for people expressing their views,that is healthy,but there is a correct way of doing it not calling the owner F** K**,and I'm afraid that some of you think the louder you shout or act in an abusive manner,you will win the argument,wrong.
I couldn't agree more. I probably was OTT last night but this is exactly the point I was trying to make.
[quote][p][bold]long memory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: FIGHT AND WIN. COYR RULE 1 OF THIS CLUB - WE DON'T FIGHT OTHER SAINTS FANS. This Forum does produce wide ranging views of a variety of subjects all things Saints - and that is a GOOD THING. There is RECOGNITION from the Independents and from within the Club that the current members of the BOARD made some BASIC MISTAKES. There is also the ACCEPTANCE that when we wanted STRONG LEADERSHIP - Ralph Krueger did not deliver this. Regarding the PROTEST - Support for this is waning and if we get in 2 or 3 new Players - the Protest will not go ahead as planned. We must strengthen at CB and additional Number 1 Keeper as a minimum. The RELEGATION Odds are falling as punters put money on the Southampton Drop. We have posted at length how we got to this point from a very strong position in the League. What happens next is VITAL. GET BEHIND THE MANAGER AND THE PLAYERS. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]How about rule 2 being no use of gratuitous and unnecessary profanities?[/p][/quote]CHANGING SUBJECT RADICALLY ... You are now getting in to Forum Rules - it has been posted by others before now... THIS IS A FOOTBALL FORUM where passionate Fans say their bit - whether good or bad or whether they change their minds two minutes later. This Forum is run by DAILY ECHO that welcomes frank interchange of views- it is not run by the Local Vicar for the Village Magazine. TRY the Saints Forum - Ugly Inside - etc if you want a different Product. THE FOCUS is not on the Forum and what one Fan or another may or may not have posted ... THE FOCUS IS THE START OF THE FOOTBALL SEASON. LET'S GET THE PLAYERS IN and give KING RON a FIGHTING CHANCE. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]well if you want a forum where you can swear to your hearts content then visit any of the many facebook forums. as it is this is an non-age restricted forum where fans come to express their opinions within the rules set out by the echo. those rules state that you are not allowed to post anything abusive. most of us are adults but there will be children who visit the site, mostly from poopey. as adults we should all be able to put our point across without the need for abusive language. don't get me wrong I`m no prude and can swear like a poopey whore on benefits day. however I am still able to restrict the use of abusive language when children are present. as you said this site is run by the daily echo and yes they do welcome the frank exchange of views, however they also set the site rules and if you are unable to post within those rules they will remove you from their site. not having a go at anyone by the way because the negs, wums and normal fans all break the rules. my feeling is that if it continues the echo may be forced to employ a moderator to run the forums as the news site has done. last time I looked on their, and it was a while ago, lots of posts get removed and it becomes difficult to get a coherent idea of what they are talking about, well more difficult than it normally is![/p][/quote]In 100% agreement with youDe Heiligen. I have two grandsons (both saints season ticket holders) aged 10 and 12 who come onto this forum daily,especially in recent times,as they are as concerned as we all are to what is going on at our beloved Saints,and I find some of the abusive language totally unacceptable and I personally don't want my grandsons reading such filth thank you. As for the abuse thrown at the board because some of the fans don't like what is going on at times,I find pathetic,and as I have said before, most people must have instant gratification,or they start throwing their toys out of the pram. As for the insulting remarks about KL, some of you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves,personall y I would ban you from coming onto this forum. I am all for people expressing their views,that is healthy,but there is a correct way of doing it not calling the owner F** K**,and I'm afraid that some of you think the louder you shout or act in an abusive manner,you will win the argument,wrong.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more. I probably was OTT last night but this is exactly the point I was trying to make. Enrico Palazzo
  • Score: 1

1:12pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Wigwam8 says...

Thanks wenger..............
and Titanic would not sunk if it went a different way
Thanks wenger.............. and Titanic would not sunk if it went a different way Wigwam8
  • Score: 2

1:13pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Sammy2sheds says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
seed I think ralph has huge vision for the club.
our usp is our academy so build on the academy name around the world by building `saints fc` academies around the word, that's what he was sorting out in the states by all accounts.
the fact that we have produced he worlds most expensive player and the worlds most expensive teenager makes the saints academy the brand to build on.
even if it means selling some of the players, kids and parents will know that we are the academy to go to.
the usa is becoming a huge market for football, bring kids through a US academy into the club and we will become big name over there.
we can then build academies around the world, maybe even 2 or 3 in the states.
imagine the amount of players from around the world that we could pick up! get those players into the team and we would increase our fan base. they would buy the shirts and we would then be in a position to have a global brand on the shirt.
we picked up lots of fans from japan because of lee and Yoshi. our notoriety increased massively in Zambia when we signed mayuka as well!
you have already said that our team cost little to put together last year, so imagine if we were able to put out a team academy graduates, we could then offer them higher wages as we wouldn't need such a big transfer budget.
increase the worldwide fan base and we could then build a nice big stadium that fans from all over would visit.
we could become a self sustaining club that produces the best players in the world. then we would truly be a force in word football.
i think that is a real vision for the club and one that wouldn't cost a huge amount to start up. give ralph a chance and see where it takes us.

I would go even further than just an academy in the states, I would stat an MLS team over there. maybe in boston and call it the `new England saints`. they would of course play in red and white stripes. we could then send some of our academy graduates over there for a season or 2 and give them much needed game time, whilst keeping them under the `saints` umbrella. we could also bring the best of their players over here.
You are off your head.are you 13 years old? This is like a child's version events.nc had the vision not ralphie boy.global domination...your a crack up.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: seed I think ralph has huge vision for the club. our usp is our academy so build on the academy name around the world by building `saints fc` academies around the word, that's what he was sorting out in the states by all accounts. the fact that we have produced he worlds most expensive player and the worlds most expensive teenager makes the saints academy the brand to build on. even if it means selling some of the players, kids and parents will know that we are the academy to go to. the usa is becoming a huge market for football, bring kids through a US academy into the club and we will become big name over there. we can then build academies around the world, maybe even 2 or 3 in the states. imagine the amount of players from around the world that we could pick up! get those players into the team and we would increase our fan base. they would buy the shirts and we would then be in a position to have a global brand on the shirt. we picked up lots of fans from japan because of lee and Yoshi. our notoriety increased massively in Zambia when we signed mayuka as well! you have already said that our team cost little to put together last year, so imagine if we were able to put out a team academy graduates, we could then offer them higher wages as we wouldn't need such a big transfer budget. increase the worldwide fan base and we could then build a nice big stadium that fans from all over would visit. we could become a self sustaining club that produces the best players in the world. then we would truly be a force in word football. i think that is a real vision for the club and one that wouldn't cost a huge amount to start up. give ralph a chance and see where it takes us. I would go even further than just an academy in the states, I would stat an MLS team over there. maybe in boston and call it the `new England saints`. they would of course play in red and white stripes. we could then send some of our academy graduates over there for a season or 2 and give them much needed game time, whilst keeping them under the `saints` umbrella. we could also bring the best of their players over here.[/p][/quote]You are off your head.are you 13 years old? This is like a child's version events.nc had the vision not ralphie boy.global domination...your a crack up. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 16

1:13pm Sat 2 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
seed I think ralph has huge vision for the club.
our usp is our academy so build on the academy name around the world by building `saints fc` academies around the word, that's what he was sorting out in the states by all accounts.
the fact that we have produced he worlds most expensive player and the worlds most expensive teenager makes the saints academy the brand to build on.
even if it means selling some of the players, kids and parents will know that we are the academy to go to.
the usa is becoming a huge market for football, bring kids through a US academy into the club and we will become big name over there.
we can then build academies around the world, maybe even 2 or 3 in the states.
imagine the amount of players from around the world that we could pick up! get those players into the team and we would increase our fan base. they would buy the shirts and we would then be in a position to have a global brand on the shirt.
we picked up lots of fans from japan because of lee and Yoshi. our notoriety increased massively in Zambia when we signed mayuka as well!
you have already said that our team cost little to put together last year, so imagine if we were able to put out a team academy graduates, we could then offer them higher wages as we wouldn't need such a big transfer budget.
increase the worldwide fan base and we could then build a nice big stadium that fans from all over would visit.
we could become a self sustaining club that produces the best players in the world. then we would truly be a force in word football.
i think that is a real vision for the club and one that wouldn't cost a huge amount to start up. give ralph a chance and see where it takes us.

I would go even further than just an academy in the states, I would stat an MLS team over there. maybe in boston and call it the `new England saints`. they would of course play in red and white stripes. we could then send some of our academy graduates over there for a season or 2 and give them much needed game time, whilst keeping them under the `saints` umbrella. we could also bring the best of their players over here.
fantastic vision - however as Seed rightly posts - disappointingly we have ralph. COYR+WS
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: seed I think ralph has huge vision for the club. our usp is our academy so build on the academy name around the world by building `saints fc` academies around the word, that's what he was sorting out in the states by all accounts. the fact that we have produced he worlds most expensive player and the worlds most expensive teenager makes the saints academy the brand to build on. even if it means selling some of the players, kids and parents will know that we are the academy to go to. the usa is becoming a huge market for football, bring kids through a US academy into the club and we will become big name over there. we can then build academies around the world, maybe even 2 or 3 in the states. imagine the amount of players from around the world that we could pick up! get those players into the team and we would increase our fan base. they would buy the shirts and we would then be in a position to have a global brand on the shirt. we picked up lots of fans from japan because of lee and Yoshi. our notoriety increased massively in Zambia when we signed mayuka as well! you have already said that our team cost little to put together last year, so imagine if we were able to put out a team academy graduates, we could then offer them higher wages as we wouldn't need such a big transfer budget. increase the worldwide fan base and we could then build a nice big stadium that fans from all over would visit. we could become a self sustaining club that produces the best players in the world. then we would truly be a force in word football. i think that is a real vision for the club and one that wouldn't cost a huge amount to start up. give ralph a chance and see where it takes us. I would go even further than just an academy in the states, I would stat an MLS team over there. maybe in boston and call it the `new England saints`. they would of course play in red and white stripes. we could then send some of our academy graduates over there for a season or 2 and give them much needed game time, whilst keeping them under the `saints` umbrella. we could also bring the best of their players over here.[/p][/quote]fantastic vision - however as Seed rightly posts - disappointingly we have ralph. COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: -1

1:15pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Chapperall says...

footballfan123 wrote:
AucklandSaint wrote:
This is what ESPN says about our the Saints and RK prospects for next season:

This season has the potential to be a car crash for Southampton and Ronald Koeman (14/1). Selling two or three of their star players was to be expected after last season, but the five that have gone so far (with, at the time of writing, another couple to potentially follow) represents the heart and several other vital organs of their team. If Koeman's army of Eredivisie replacements don't shape up, his tenure on the south coast could be pretty brief.
we will have to wait and see. Who knows how our season will pan out!
Lots of the media are saying we will have a tough season and will be in a relegation fight. I hope that's not the case as watching a struggling team is not very motivating! I petsonally don't believe our team is weakened that much if we get a solid experienced CB and another striker. The midfield still looks strong and as good as any other PL team with a Spider, cork, Davis , Ward Prowse and Wanyama. Tadic looks a better player than Lallana who was a bit of a one trick pony and teams had Sussex him out.
We struggled towards the end of the season to score goals so getting a really top notch experienced PL striker would be great.
If we can get these positions filled with quality players I think we will have a good season probably mid table and then progress next season, unless we have more madness in the mid season transfers!
[quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AucklandSaint[/bold] wrote: This is what ESPN says about our the Saints and RK prospects for next season: This season has the potential to be a car crash for Southampton and Ronald Koeman (14/1). Selling two or three of their star players was to be expected after last season, but the five that have gone so far (with, at the time of writing, another couple to potentially follow) represents the heart and several other vital organs of their team. If Koeman's army of Eredivisie replacements don't shape up, his tenure on the south coast could be pretty brief.[/p][/quote]we will have to wait and see. Who knows how our season will pan out![/p][/quote]Lots of the media are saying we will have a tough season and will be in a relegation fight. I hope that's not the case as watching a struggling team is not very motivating! I petsonally don't believe our team is weakened that much if we get a solid experienced CB and another striker. The midfield still looks strong and as good as any other PL team with a Spider, cork, Davis , Ward Prowse and Wanyama. Tadic looks a better player than Lallana who was a bit of a one trick pony and teams had Sussex him out. We struggled towards the end of the season to score goals so getting a really top notch experienced PL striker would be great. If we can get these positions filled with quality players I think we will have a good season probably mid table and then progress next season, unless we have more madness in the mid season transfers! Chapperall
  • Score: 2

1:15pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Chapperall says...

footballfan123 wrote:
AucklandSaint wrote:
This is what ESPN says about our the Saints and RK prospects for next season:

This season has the potential to be a car crash for Southampton and Ronald Koeman (14/1). Selling two or three of their star players was to be expected after last season, but the five that have gone so far (with, at the time of writing, another couple to potentially follow) represents the heart and several other vital organs of their team. If Koeman's army of Eredivisie replacements don't shape up, his tenure on the south coast could be pretty brief.
we will have to wait and see. Who knows how our season will pan out!
Lots of the media are saying we will have a tough season and will be in a relegation fight. I hope that's not the case as watching a struggling team is not very motivating! I petsonally don't believe our team is weakened that much if we get a solid experienced CB and another striker. The midfield still looks strong and as good as any other PL team with a Spider, cork, Davis , Ward Prowse and Wanyama. Tadic looks a better player than Lallana who was a bit of a one trick pony and teams had Sussex him out.
We struggled towards the end of the season to score goals so getting a really top notch experienced PL striker would be great.
If we can get these positions filled with quality players I think we will have a good season probably mid table and then progress next season, unless we have more madness in the mid season transfers!
[quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AucklandSaint[/bold] wrote: This is what ESPN says about our the Saints and RK prospects for next season: This season has the potential to be a car crash for Southampton and Ronald Koeman (14/1). Selling two or three of their star players was to be expected after last season, but the five that have gone so far (with, at the time of writing, another couple to potentially follow) represents the heart and several other vital organs of their team. If Koeman's army of Eredivisie replacements don't shape up, his tenure on the south coast could be pretty brief.[/p][/quote]we will have to wait and see. Who knows how our season will pan out![/p][/quote]Lots of the media are saying we will have a tough season and will be in a relegation fight. I hope that's not the case as watching a struggling team is not very motivating! I petsonally don't believe our team is weakened that much if we get a solid experienced CB and another striker. The midfield still looks strong and as good as any other PL team with a Spider, cork, Davis , Ward Prowse and Wanyama. Tadic looks a better player than Lallana who was a bit of a one trick pony and teams had Sussex him out. We struggled towards the end of the season to score goals so getting a really top notch experienced PL striker would be great. If we can get these positions filled with quality players I think we will have a good season probably mid table and then progress next season, unless we have more madness in the mid season transfers! Chapperall
  • Score: 2

1:15pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Chapperall says...

footballfan123 wrote:
AucklandSaint wrote:
This is what ESPN says about our the Saints and RK prospects for next season:

This season has the potential to be a car crash for Southampton and Ronald Koeman (14/1). Selling two or three of their star players was to be expected after last season, but the five that have gone so far (with, at the time of writing, another couple to potentially follow) represents the heart and several other vital organs of their team. If Koeman's army of Eredivisie replacements don't shape up, his tenure on the south coast could be pretty brief.
we will have to wait and see. Who knows how our season will pan out!
Lots of the media are saying we will have a tough season and will be in a relegation fight. I hope that's not the case as watching a struggling team is not very motivating! I petsonally don't believe our team is weakened that much if we get a solid experienced CB and another striker. The midfield still looks strong and as good as any other PL team with a Spider, cork, Davis , Ward Prowse and Wanyama. Tadic looks a better player than Lallana who was a bit of a one trick pony and teams had Sussex him out.
We struggled towards the end of the season to score goals so getting a really top notch experienced PL striker would be great.
If we can get these positions filled with quality players I think we will have a good season probably mid table and then progress next season, unless we have more madness in the mid season transfers!
[quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AucklandSaint[/bold] wrote: This is what ESPN says about our the Saints and RK prospects for next season: This season has the potential to be a car crash for Southampton and Ronald Koeman (14/1). Selling two or three of their star players was to be expected after last season, but the five that have gone so far (with, at the time of writing, another couple to potentially follow) represents the heart and several other vital organs of their team. If Koeman's army of Eredivisie replacements don't shape up, his tenure on the south coast could be pretty brief.[/p][/quote]we will have to wait and see. Who knows how our season will pan out![/p][/quote]Lots of the media are saying we will have a tough season and will be in a relegation fight. I hope that's not the case as watching a struggling team is not very motivating! I petsonally don't believe our team is weakened that much if we get a solid experienced CB and another striker. The midfield still looks strong and as good as any other PL team with a Spider, cork, Davis , Ward Prowse and Wanyama. Tadic looks a better player than Lallana who was a bit of a one trick pony and teams had Sussex him out. We struggled towards the end of the season to score goals so getting a really top notch experienced PL striker would be great. If we can get these positions filled with quality players I think we will have a good season probably mid table and then progress next season, unless we have more madness in the mid season transfers! Chapperall
  • Score: 1

1:15pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Chapperall says...

footballfan123 wrote:
AucklandSaint wrote:
This is what ESPN says about our the Saints and RK prospects for next season:

This season has the potential to be a car crash for Southampton and Ronald Koeman (14/1). Selling two or three of their star players was to be expected after last season, but the five that have gone so far (with, at the time of writing, another couple to potentially follow) represents the heart and several other vital organs of their team. If Koeman's army of Eredivisie replacements don't shape up, his tenure on the south coast could be pretty brief.
we will have to wait and see. Who knows how our season will pan out!
Lots of the media are saying we will have a tough season and will be in a relegation fight. I hope that's not the case as watching a struggling team is not very motivating! I petsonally don't believe our team is weakened that much if we get a solid experienced CB and another striker. The midfield still looks strong and as good as any other PL team with a Spider, cork, Davis , Ward Prowse and Wanyama. Tadic looks a better player than Lallana who was a bit of a one trick pony and teams had Sussex him out.
We struggled towards the end of the season to score goals so getting a really top notch experienced PL striker would be great.
If we can get these positions filled with quality players I think we will have a good season probably mid table and then progress next season, unless we have more madness in the mid season transfers!
[quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AucklandSaint[/bold] wrote: This is what ESPN says about our the Saints and RK prospects for next season: This season has the potential to be a car crash for Southampton and Ronald Koeman (14/1). Selling two or three of their star players was to be expected after last season, but the five that have gone so far (with, at the time of writing, another couple to potentially follow) represents the heart and several other vital organs of their team. If Koeman's army of Eredivisie replacements don't shape up, his tenure on the south coast could be pretty brief.[/p][/quote]we will have to wait and see. Who knows how our season will pan out![/p][/quote]Lots of the media are saying we will have a tough season and will be in a relegation fight. I hope that's not the case as watching a struggling team is not very motivating! I petsonally don't believe our team is weakened that much if we get a solid experienced CB and another striker. The midfield still looks strong and as good as any other PL team with a Spider, cork, Davis , Ward Prowse and Wanyama. Tadic looks a better player than Lallana who was a bit of a one trick pony and teams had Sussex him out. We struggled towards the end of the season to score goals so getting a really top notch experienced PL striker would be great. If we can get these positions filled with quality players I think we will have a good season probably mid table and then progress next season, unless we have more madness in the mid season transfers! Chapperall
  • Score: 1

1:15pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Chapperall says...

footballfan123 wrote:
AucklandSaint wrote:
This is what ESPN says about our the Saints and RK prospects for next season:

This season has the potential to be a car crash for Southampton and Ronald Koeman (14/1). Selling two or three of their star players was to be expected after last season, but the five that have gone so far (with, at the time of writing, another couple to potentially follow) represents the heart and several other vital organs of their team. If Koeman's army of Eredivisie replacements don't shape up, his tenure on the south coast could be pretty brief.
we will have to wait and see. Who knows how our season will pan out!
Lots of the media are saying we will have a tough season and will be in a relegation fight. I hope that's not the case as watching a struggling team is not very motivating! I petsonally don't believe our team is weakened that much if we get a solid experienced CB and another striker. The midfield still looks strong and as good as any other PL team with a Spider, cork, Davis , Ward Prowse and Wanyama. Tadic looks a better player than Lallana who was a bit of a one trick pony and teams had Sussex him out.
We struggled towards the end of the season to score goals so getting a really top notch experienced PL striker would be great.
If we can get these positions filled with quality players I think we will have a good season probably mid table and then progress next season, unless we have more madness in the mid season transfers!
[quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AucklandSaint[/bold] wrote: This is what ESPN says about our the Saints and RK prospects for next season: This season has the potential to be a car crash for Southampton and Ronald Koeman (14/1). Selling two or three of their star players was to be expected after last season, but the five that have gone so far (with, at the time of writing, another couple to potentially follow) represents the heart and several other vital organs of their team. If Koeman's army of Eredivisie replacements don't shape up, his tenure on the south coast could be pretty brief.[/p][/quote]we will have to wait and see. Who knows how our season will pan out![/p][/quote]Lots of the media are saying we will have a tough season and will be in a relegation fight. I hope that's not the case as watching a struggling team is not very motivating! I petsonally don't believe our team is weakened that much if we get a solid experienced CB and another striker. The midfield still looks strong and as good as any other PL team with a Spider, cork, Davis , Ward Prowse and Wanyama. Tadic looks a better player than Lallana who was a bit of a one trick pony and teams had Sussex him out. We struggled towards the end of the season to score goals so getting a really top notch experienced PL striker would be great. If we can get these positions filled with quality players I think we will have a good season probably mid table and then progress next season, unless we have more madness in the mid season transfers! Chapperall
  • Score: 1

1:18pm Sat 2 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

long memory wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
FIGHT AND WIN. COYR

RULE 1 OF THIS CLUB - WE DON'T FIGHT OTHER SAINTS FANS.

This Forum does produce wide ranging views of a variety of subjects all things Saints - and that is a GOOD THING.

There is RECOGNITION from the Independents and from within the Club that the current members of the BOARD made some BASIC MISTAKES.

There is also the ACCEPTANCE that when we wanted STRONG LEADERSHIP - Ralph Krueger did not deliver this.

Regarding the PROTEST - Support for this is waning and if we get in 2 or 3 new Players - the Protest will not go ahead as planned.

We must strengthen at CB and additional Number 1 Keeper as a minimum.

The RELEGATION Odds are falling as punters put money on the Southampton Drop. We have posted at length how we got to this point from a very strong position in the League.

What happens next is VITAL.

GET BEHIND THE MANAGER AND THE PLAYERS. COYR+WS
How about rule 2 being no use of gratuitous and unnecessary profanities?
CHANGING SUBJECT RADICALLY ...

You are now getting in to Forum Rules - it has been posted by others before now...

THIS IS A FOOTBALL FORUM where passionate Fans say their bit - whether good or bad or whether they change their minds two minutes later.

This Forum is run by DAILY ECHO that welcomes frank interchange of views- it is not run by the Local Vicar for the Village Magazine.

TRY the Saints Forum - Ugly Inside - etc if you want a different Product.

THE FOCUS is not on the Forum and what one Fan or another may or may not have posted ...

THE FOCUS IS THE START OF THE FOOTBALL SEASON.

LET'S GET THE PLAYERS IN and give KING RON a FIGHTING CHANCE.
COYR+WS
well if you want a forum where you can swear to your hearts content then visit any of the many facebook forums.
as it is this is an non-age restricted forum where fans come to express their opinions within the rules set out by the echo. those rules state that you are not allowed to post anything abusive.
most of us are adults but there will be children who visit the site, mostly from poopey. as adults we should all be able to put our point across without the need for abusive language.
don't get me wrong I`m no prude and can swear like a poopey whore on benefits day. however I am still able to restrict the use of abusive language when children are present.
as you said this site is run by the daily echo and yes they do welcome the frank exchange of views, however they also set the site rules and if you are unable to post within those rules they will remove you from their site.
not having a go at anyone by the way because the negs, wums and normal fans all break the rules.
my feeling is that if it continues the echo may be forced to employ a moderator to run the forums as the news site has done. last time I looked on their, and it was a while ago, lots of posts get removed and it becomes difficult to get a coherent idea of what they are talking about, well more difficult than it normally is!
In 100% agreement with youDe Heiligen.
I have two grandsons (both saints season ticket holders) aged 10 and 12 who come onto this forum daily,especially in recent times,as they are as concerned as we all are to what is going on at our beloved Saints,and I find some of the abusive language totally unacceptable and I personally don't want my grandsons reading such filth thank you.
As for the abuse thrown at the board because some of the fans don't like what is going on at times,I find pathetic,and as I have said before, most people must have instant gratification,or they start throwing their toys out of the pram.
As for the insulting remarks about KL, some of you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves,personall

y I would ban you from coming onto this forum.
I am all for people expressing their views,that is healthy,but there is a correct way of doing it not calling the owner F** K**,and I'm afraid that some of you think the louder you shout or act in an abusive manner,you will win the argument,wrong.
Get your point but how are people on here supposed to know how old some of the posters are???
Maybe if there are young kids occasionally posting on here they should in some way let other posters know or their log in names should have a a clear indication that they are not adults ie "Junior" or something after their name. That way other adults who may be a ted more liberal than others would know and no doubt act accordingly.
The other option would be for the guardians of the kids to proof read a thread before the let their kids come on here.
[quote][p][bold]long memory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: FIGHT AND WIN. COYR RULE 1 OF THIS CLUB - WE DON'T FIGHT OTHER SAINTS FANS. This Forum does produce wide ranging views of a variety of subjects all things Saints - and that is a GOOD THING. There is RECOGNITION from the Independents and from within the Club that the current members of the BOARD made some BASIC MISTAKES. There is also the ACCEPTANCE that when we wanted STRONG LEADERSHIP - Ralph Krueger did not deliver this. Regarding the PROTEST - Support for this is waning and if we get in 2 or 3 new Players - the Protest will not go ahead as planned. We must strengthen at CB and additional Number 1 Keeper as a minimum. The RELEGATION Odds are falling as punters put money on the Southampton Drop. We have posted at length how we got to this point from a very strong position in the League. What happens next is VITAL. GET BEHIND THE MANAGER AND THE PLAYERS. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]How about rule 2 being no use of gratuitous and unnecessary profanities?[/p][/quote]CHANGING SUBJECT RADICALLY ... You are now getting in to Forum Rules - it has been posted by others before now... THIS IS A FOOTBALL FORUM where passionate Fans say their bit - whether good or bad or whether they change their minds two minutes later. This Forum is run by DAILY ECHO that welcomes frank interchange of views- it is not run by the Local Vicar for the Village Magazine. TRY the Saints Forum - Ugly Inside - etc if you want a different Product. THE FOCUS is not on the Forum and what one Fan or another may or may not have posted ... THE FOCUS IS THE START OF THE FOOTBALL SEASON. LET'S GET THE PLAYERS IN and give KING RON a FIGHTING CHANCE. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]well if you want a forum where you can swear to your hearts content then visit any of the many facebook forums. as it is this is an non-age restricted forum where fans come to express their opinions within the rules set out by the echo. those rules state that you are not allowed to post anything abusive. most of us are adults but there will be children who visit the site, mostly from poopey. as adults we should all be able to put our point across without the need for abusive language. don't get me wrong I`m no prude and can swear like a poopey whore on benefits day. however I am still able to restrict the use of abusive language when children are present. as you said this site is run by the daily echo and yes they do welcome the frank exchange of views, however they also set the site rules and if you are unable to post within those rules they will remove you from their site. not having a go at anyone by the way because the negs, wums and normal fans all break the rules. my feeling is that if it continues the echo may be forced to employ a moderator to run the forums as the news site has done. last time I looked on their, and it was a while ago, lots of posts get removed and it becomes difficult to get a coherent idea of what they are talking about, well more difficult than it normally is![/p][/quote]In 100% agreement with youDe Heiligen. I have two grandsons (both saints season ticket holders) aged 10 and 12 who come onto this forum daily,especially in recent times,as they are as concerned as we all are to what is going on at our beloved Saints,and I find some of the abusive language totally unacceptable and I personally don't want my grandsons reading such filth thank you. As for the abuse thrown at the board because some of the fans don't like what is going on at times,I find pathetic,and as I have said before, most people must have instant gratification,or they start throwing their toys out of the pram. As for the insulting remarks about KL, some of you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves,personall y I would ban you from coming onto this forum. I am all for people expressing their views,that is healthy,but there is a correct way of doing it not calling the owner F** K**,and I'm afraid that some of you think the louder you shout or act in an abusive manner,you will win the argument,wrong.[/p][/quote]Get your point but how are people on here supposed to know how old some of the posters are??? Maybe if there are young kids occasionally posting on here they should in some way let other posters know or their log in names should have a a clear indication that they are not adults ie "Junior" or something after their name. That way other adults who may be a ted more liberal than others would know and no doubt act accordingly. The other option would be for the guardians of the kids to proof read a thread before the let their kids come on here. J7junctionseven
  • Score: -5

1:23pm Sat 2 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

footballfan123 wrote:
Just a comment on a completely different note. Some fans were singing Lamberts name at Brighton. Please DO NOT do this! At Liverpool, especially, we need to get behind our own team and players. Lambert, although with respect, decided to leave Southampton Football Club, would have kicked up a huge fuss if we had said no. Yes he did a good job for us on lots of money, but that' his job. We bought him to score goals. Although I will clap him and don't feel as upset with him as I do the others who have left, he is still one of our rivals now. He could score a hat trick against us on the opening day! He is a Liverpool fan and cares more about them than he does us. Do not sing the name of opposition players! We want to put him off at Anfield not spur him on! Forget him. He decided he would leave us! Please DO NOT sing his name!
SPOT ON ....

the night at Brighton we savaged Dejan Lovren - Luke Shaw got stick and Lallana ridiculed ..

Then all the favourite chants came out in succession ..

Then one lad started ... lamberts a w@nker chant ... to a few boos and then w@nker finger pointing and then the old favourite about rickie.

Rickie Lambert loves LFC and he is one of our rivals now. CLAP if you feel it is appropriate - but NO singing his name.

Let's really get OUR SUPPORT behind our Players - our Club and King Ron Koeman who will not clap or wave - he will be concentrating on WINNING a game of football. COYR+WS
[quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: Just a comment on a completely different note. Some fans were singing Lamberts name at Brighton. Please DO NOT do this! At Liverpool, especially, we need to get behind our own team and players. Lambert, although with respect, decided to leave Southampton Football Club, would have kicked up a huge fuss if we had said no. Yes he did a good job for us on lots of money, but that' his job. We bought him to score goals. Although I will clap him and don't feel as upset with him as I do the others who have left, he is still one of our rivals now. He could score a hat trick against us on the opening day! He is a Liverpool fan and cares more about them than he does us. Do not sing the name of opposition players! We want to put him off at Anfield not spur him on! Forget him. He decided he would leave us! Please DO NOT sing his name![/p][/quote]SPOT ON .... the night at Brighton we savaged Dejan Lovren - Luke Shaw got stick and Lallana ridiculed .. Then all the favourite chants came out in succession .. Then one lad started ... lamberts a w@nker chant ... to a few boos and then w@nker finger pointing and then the old favourite about rickie. Rickie Lambert loves LFC and he is one of our rivals now. CLAP if you feel it is appropriate - but NO singing his name. Let's really get OUR SUPPORT behind our Players - our Club and King Ron Koeman who will not clap or wave - he will be concentrating on WINNING a game of football. COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 3

1:25pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Sammy2sheds says...

Enrico Palazzo wrote:
long memory wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
FIGHT AND WIN. COYR

RULE 1 OF THIS CLUB - WE DON'T FIGHT OTHER SAINTS FANS.

This Forum does produce wide ranging views of a variety of subjects all things Saints - and that is a GOOD THING.

There is RECOGNITION from the Independents and from within the Club that the current members of the BOARD made some BASIC MISTAKES.

There is also the ACCEPTANCE that when we wanted STRONG LEADERSHIP - Ralph Krueger did not deliver this.

Regarding the PROTEST - Support for this is waning and if we get in 2 or 3 new Players - the Protest will not go ahead as planned.

We must strengthen at CB and additional Number 1 Keeper as a minimum.

The RELEGATION Odds are falling as punters put money on the Southampton Drop. We have posted at length how we got to this point from a very strong position in the League.

What happens next is VITAL.

GET BEHIND THE MANAGER AND THE PLAYERS. COYR+WS
How about rule 2 being no use of gratuitous and unnecessary profanities?
CHANGING SUBJECT RADICALLY ...

You are now getting in to Forum Rules - it has been posted by others before now...

THIS IS A FOOTBALL FORUM where passionate Fans say their bit - whether good or bad or whether they change their minds two minutes later.

This Forum is run by DAILY ECHO that welcomes frank interchange of views- it is not run by the Local Vicar for the Village Magazine.

TRY the Saints Forum - Ugly Inside - etc if you want a different Product.

THE FOCUS is not on the Forum and what one Fan or another may or may not have posted ...

THE FOCUS IS THE START OF THE FOOTBALL SEASON.

LET'S GET THE PLAYERS IN and give KING RON a FIGHTING CHANCE.
COYR+WS
well if you want a forum where you can swear to your hearts content then visit any of the many facebook forums.
as it is this is an non-age restricted forum where fans come to express their opinions within the rules set out by the echo. those rules state that you are not allowed to post anything abusive.
most of us are adults but there will be children who visit the site, mostly from poopey. as adults we should all be able to put our point across without the need for abusive language.
don't get me wrong I`m no prude and can swear like a poopey whore on benefits day. however I am still able to restrict the use of abusive language when children are present.
as you said this site is run by the daily echo and yes they do welcome the frank exchange of views, however they also set the site rules and if you are unable to post within those rules they will remove you from their site.
not having a go at anyone by the way because the negs, wums and normal fans all break the rules.
my feeling is that if it continues the echo may be forced to employ a moderator to run the forums as the news site has done. last time I looked on their, and it was a while ago, lots of posts get removed and it becomes difficult to get a coherent idea of what they are talking about, well more difficult than it normally is!
In 100% agreement with youDe Heiligen.
I have two grandsons (both saints season ticket holders) aged 10 and 12 who come onto this forum daily,especially in recent times,as they are as concerned as we all are to what is going on at our beloved Saints,and I find some of the abusive language totally unacceptable and I personally don't want my grandsons reading such filth thank you.
As for the abuse thrown at the board because some of the fans don't like what is going on at times,I find pathetic,and as I have said before, most people must have instant gratification,or they start throwing their toys out of the pram.
As for the insulting remarks about KL, some of you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves,personall


y I would ban you from coming onto this forum.
I am all for people expressing their views,that is healthy,but there is a correct way of doing it not calling the owner F** K**,and I'm afraid that some of you think the louder you shout or act in an abusive manner,you will win the argument,wrong.
I couldn't agree more. I probably was OTT last night but this is exactly the point I was trying to make.
I too have young ones who read these comment sections and I have had to monitor what they read and help them with their spelling etc...my two girls j7 and heiligen are very impressionable and often just follow the crowd so go easy on them.both of them are still on the potty so you may have trouble understanding their childish drivel.just watch your language and it to one syllable words otherwise they get confused.
[quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]long memory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: FIGHT AND WIN. COYR RULE 1 OF THIS CLUB - WE DON'T FIGHT OTHER SAINTS FANS. This Forum does produce wide ranging views of a variety of subjects all things Saints - and that is a GOOD THING. There is RECOGNITION from the Independents and from within the Club that the current members of the BOARD made some BASIC MISTAKES. There is also the ACCEPTANCE that when we wanted STRONG LEADERSHIP - Ralph Krueger did not deliver this. Regarding the PROTEST - Support for this is waning and if we get in 2 or 3 new Players - the Protest will not go ahead as planned. We must strengthen at CB and additional Number 1 Keeper as a minimum. The RELEGATION Odds are falling as punters put money on the Southampton Drop. We have posted at length how we got to this point from a very strong position in the League. What happens next is VITAL. GET BEHIND THE MANAGER AND THE PLAYERS. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]How about rule 2 being no use of gratuitous and unnecessary profanities?[/p][/quote]CHANGING SUBJECT RADICALLY ... You are now getting in to Forum Rules - it has been posted by others before now... THIS IS A FOOTBALL FORUM where passionate Fans say their bit - whether good or bad or whether they change their minds two minutes later. This Forum is run by DAILY ECHO that welcomes frank interchange of views- it is not run by the Local Vicar for the Village Magazine. TRY the Saints Forum - Ugly Inside - etc if you want a different Product. THE FOCUS is not on the Forum and what one Fan or another may or may not have posted ... THE FOCUS IS THE START OF THE FOOTBALL SEASON. LET'S GET THE PLAYERS IN and give KING RON a FIGHTING CHANCE. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]well if you want a forum where you can swear to your hearts content then visit any of the many facebook forums. as it is this is an non-age restricted forum where fans come to express their opinions within the rules set out by the echo. those rules state that you are not allowed to post anything abusive. most of us are adults but there will be children who visit the site, mostly from poopey. as adults we should all be able to put our point across without the need for abusive language. don't get me wrong I`m no prude and can swear like a poopey whore on benefits day. however I am still able to restrict the use of abusive language when children are present. as you said this site is run by the daily echo and yes they do welcome the frank exchange of views, however they also set the site rules and if you are unable to post within those rules they will remove you from their site. not having a go at anyone by the way because the negs, wums and normal fans all break the rules. my feeling is that if it continues the echo may be forced to employ a moderator to run the forums as the news site has done. last time I looked on their, and it was a while ago, lots of posts get removed and it becomes difficult to get a coherent idea of what they are talking about, well more difficult than it normally is![/p][/quote]In 100% agreement with youDe Heiligen. I have two grandsons (both saints season ticket holders) aged 10 and 12 who come onto this forum daily,especially in recent times,as they are as concerned as we all are to what is going on at our beloved Saints,and I find some of the abusive language totally unacceptable and I personally don't want my grandsons reading such filth thank you. As for the abuse thrown at the board because some of the fans don't like what is going on at times,I find pathetic,and as I have said before, most people must have instant gratification,or they start throwing their toys out of the pram. As for the insulting remarks about KL, some of you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves,personall y I would ban you from coming onto this forum. I am all for people expressing their views,that is healthy,but there is a correct way of doing it not calling the owner F** K**,and I'm afraid that some of you think the louder you shout or act in an abusive manner,you will win the argument,wrong.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more. I probably was OTT last night but this is exactly the point I was trying to make.[/p][/quote]I too have young ones who read these comment sections and I have had to monitor what they read and help them with their spelling etc...my two girls j7 and heiligen are very impressionable and often just follow the crowd so go easy on them.both of them are still on the potty so you may have trouble understanding their childish drivel.just watch your language and it to one syllable words otherwise they get confused. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 24

1:25pm Sat 2 Aug 14

miltonnroad76 says...

We have most high profile manager,shed loads of money ,we have replaced players who have left with possibly even better ones,played really great football at times v brighton,just need a striker and cb and cover for boruc and we are set up for a another fantastic season..cant wait!
We have most high profile manager,shed loads of money ,we have replaced players who have left with possibly even better ones,played really great football at times v brighton,just need a striker and cb and cover for boruc and we are set up for a another fantastic season..cant wait! miltonnroad76
  • Score: 4

1:33pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Mister E says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
long memory wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
FIGHT AND WIN. COYR

RULE 1 OF THIS CLUB - WE DON'T FIGHT OTHER SAINTS FANS.

This Forum does produce wide ranging views of a variety of subjects all things Saints - and that is a GOOD THING.

There is RECOGNITION from the Independents and from within the Club that the current members of the BOARD made some BASIC MISTAKES.

There is also the ACCEPTANCE that when we wanted STRONG LEADERSHIP - Ralph Krueger did not deliver this.

Regarding the PROTEST - Support for this is waning and if we get in 2 or 3 new Players - the Protest will not go ahead as planned.

We must strengthen at CB and additional Number 1 Keeper as a minimum.

The RELEGATION Odds are falling as punters put money on the Southampton Drop. We have posted at length how we got to this point from a very strong position in the League.

What happens next is VITAL.

GET BEHIND THE MANAGER AND THE PLAYERS. COYR+WS
How about rule 2 being no use of gratuitous and unnecessary profanities?
CHANGING SUBJECT RADICALLY ...

You are now getting in to Forum Rules - it has been posted by others before now...

THIS IS A FOOTBALL FORUM where passionate Fans say their bit - whether good or bad or whether they change their minds two minutes later.

This Forum is run by DAILY ECHO that welcomes frank interchange of views- it is not run by the Local Vicar for the Village Magazine.

TRY the Saints Forum - Ugly Inside - etc if you want a different Product.

THE FOCUS is not on the Forum and what one Fan or another may or may not have posted ...

THE FOCUS IS THE START OF THE FOOTBALL SEASON.

LET'S GET THE PLAYERS IN and give KING RON a FIGHTING CHANCE.
COYR+WS
well if you want a forum where you can swear to your hearts content then visit any of the many facebook forums.
as it is this is an non-age restricted forum where fans come to express their opinions within the rules set out by the echo. those rules state that you are not allowed to post anything abusive.
most of us are adults but there will be children who visit the site, mostly from poopey. as adults we should all be able to put our point across without the need for abusive language.
don't get me wrong I`m no prude and can swear like a poopey whore on benefits day. however I am still able to restrict the use of abusive language when children are present.
as you said this site is run by the daily echo and yes they do welcome the frank exchange of views, however they also set the site rules and if you are unable to post within those rules they will remove you from their site.
not having a go at anyone by the way because the negs, wums and normal fans all break the rules.
my feeling is that if it continues the echo may be forced to employ a moderator to run the forums as the news site has done. last time I looked on their, and it was a while ago, lots of posts get removed and it becomes difficult to get a coherent idea of what they are talking about, well more difficult than it normally is!
In 100% agreement with youDe Heiligen.
I have two grandsons (both saints season ticket holders) aged 10 and 12 who come onto this forum daily,especially in recent times,as they are as concerned as we all are to what is going on at our beloved Saints,and I find some of the abusive language totally unacceptable and I personally don't want my grandsons reading such filth thank you.
As for the abuse thrown at the board because some of the fans don't like what is going on at times,I find pathetic,and as I have said before, most people must have instant gratification,or they start throwing their toys out of the pram.
As for the insulting remarks about KL, some of you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves,personall


y I would ban you from coming onto this forum.
I am all for people expressing their views,that is healthy,but there is a correct way of doing it not calling the owner F** K**,and I'm afraid that some of you think the louder you shout or act in an abusive manner,you will win the argument,wrong.
Get your point but how are people on here supposed to know how old some of the posters are???
Maybe if there are young kids occasionally posting on here they should in some way let other posters know or their log in names should have a a clear indication that they are not adults ie "Junior" or something after their name. That way other adults who may be a ted more liberal than others would know and no doubt act accordingly.
The other option would be for the guardians of the kids to proof read a thread before the let their kids come on here.
You should be able to make your point without being abusive or using offensive language! End of!
It's the Daily Echo, do posters really need to be told there may be youngsters interested in Saints that will read these posts?
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]long memory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: FIGHT AND WIN. COYR RULE 1 OF THIS CLUB - WE DON'T FIGHT OTHER SAINTS FANS. This Forum does produce wide ranging views of a variety of subjects all things Saints - and that is a GOOD THING. There is RECOGNITION from the Independents and from within the Club that the current members of the BOARD made some BASIC MISTAKES. There is also the ACCEPTANCE that when we wanted STRONG LEADERSHIP - Ralph Krueger did not deliver this. Regarding the PROTEST - Support for this is waning and if we get in 2 or 3 new Players - the Protest will not go ahead as planned. We must strengthen at CB and additional Number 1 Keeper as a minimum. The RELEGATION Odds are falling as punters put money on the Southampton Drop. We have posted at length how we got to this point from a very strong position in the League. What happens next is VITAL. GET BEHIND THE MANAGER AND THE PLAYERS. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]How about rule 2 being no use of gratuitous and unnecessary profanities?[/p][/quote]CHANGING SUBJECT RADICALLY ... You are now getting in to Forum Rules - it has been posted by others before now... THIS IS A FOOTBALL FORUM where passionate Fans say their bit - whether good or bad or whether they change their minds two minutes later. This Forum is run by DAILY ECHO that welcomes frank interchange of views- it is not run by the Local Vicar for the Village Magazine. TRY the Saints Forum - Ugly Inside - etc if you want a different Product. THE FOCUS is not on the Forum and what one Fan or another may or may not have posted ... THE FOCUS IS THE START OF THE FOOTBALL SEASON. LET'S GET THE PLAYERS IN and give KING RON a FIGHTING CHANCE. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]well if you want a forum where you can swear to your hearts content then visit any of the many facebook forums. as it is this is an non-age restricted forum where fans come to express their opinions within the rules set out by the echo. those rules state that you are not allowed to post anything abusive. most of us are adults but there will be children who visit the site, mostly from poopey. as adults we should all be able to put our point across without the need for abusive language. don't get me wrong I`m no prude and can swear like a poopey whore on benefits day. however I am still able to restrict the use of abusive language when children are present. as you said this site is run by the daily echo and yes they do welcome the frank exchange of views, however they also set the site rules and if you are unable to post within those rules they will remove you from their site. not having a go at anyone by the way because the negs, wums and normal fans all break the rules. my feeling is that if it continues the echo may be forced to employ a moderator to run the forums as the news site has done. last time I looked on their, and it was a while ago, lots of posts get removed and it becomes difficult to get a coherent idea of what they are talking about, well more difficult than it normally is![/p][/quote]In 100% agreement with youDe Heiligen. I have two grandsons (both saints season ticket holders) aged 10 and 12 who come onto this forum daily,especially in recent times,as they are as concerned as we all are to what is going on at our beloved Saints,and I find some of the abusive language totally unacceptable and I personally don't want my grandsons reading such filth thank you. As for the abuse thrown at the board because some of the fans don't like what is going on at times,I find pathetic,and as I have said before, most people must have instant gratification,or they start throwing their toys out of the pram. As for the insulting remarks about KL, some of you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves,personall y I would ban you from coming onto this forum. I am all for people expressing their views,that is healthy,but there is a correct way of doing it not calling the owner F** K**,and I'm afraid that some of you think the louder you shout or act in an abusive manner,you will win the argument,wrong.[/p][/quote]Get your point but how are people on here supposed to know how old some of the posters are??? Maybe if there are young kids occasionally posting on here they should in some way let other posters know or their log in names should have a a clear indication that they are not adults ie "Junior" or something after their name. That way other adults who may be a ted more liberal than others would know and no doubt act accordingly. The other option would be for the guardians of the kids to proof read a thread before the let their kids come on here.[/p][/quote]You should be able to make your point without being abusive or using offensive language! End of! It's the Daily Echo, do posters really need to be told there may be youngsters interested in Saints that will read these posts? Mister E
  • Score: 11

1:36pm Sat 2 Aug 14

saints4eva12 says...

theres a simple answer dont come sniffing for our plyers simples !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
theres a simple answer dont come sniffing for our plyers simples !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! saints4eva12
  • Score: 0

1:40pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
seed I think ralph has huge vision for the club.
our usp is our academy so build on the academy name around the world by building `saints fc` academies around the word, that's what he was sorting out in the states by all accounts.
the fact that we have produced he worlds most expensive player and the worlds most expensive teenager makes the saints academy the brand to build on.
even if it means selling some of the players, kids and parents will know that we are the academy to go to.
the usa is becoming a huge market for football, bring kids through a US academy into the club and we will become big name over there.
we can then build academies around the world, maybe even 2 or 3 in the states.
imagine the amount of players from around the world that we could pick up! get those players into the team and we would increase our fan base. they would buy the shirts and we would then be in a position to have a global brand on the shirt.
we picked up lots of fans from japan because of lee and Yoshi. our notoriety increased massively in Zambia when we signed mayuka as well!
you have already said that our team cost little to put together last year, so imagine if we were able to put out a team academy graduates, we could then offer them higher wages as we wouldn't need such a big transfer budget.
increase the worldwide fan base and we could then build a nice big stadium that fans from all over would visit.
we could become a self sustaining club that produces the best players in the world. then we would truly be a force in word football.
i think that is a real vision for the club and one that wouldn't cost a huge amount to start up. give ralph a chance and see where it takes us.

I would go even further than just an academy in the states, I would stat an MLS team over there. maybe in boston and call it the `new England saints`. they would of course play in red and white stripes. we could then send some of our academy graduates over there for a season or 2 and give them much needed game time, whilst keeping them under the `saints` umbrella. we could also bring the best of their players over here.
If he does have a vision it would be nice if he could be bothered to set it out for us.

Like some of your ideas, maybe you should write to him.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: seed I think ralph has huge vision for the club. our usp is our academy so build on the academy name around the world by building `saints fc` academies around the word, that's what he was sorting out in the states by all accounts. the fact that we have produced he worlds most expensive player and the worlds most expensive teenager makes the saints academy the brand to build on. even if it means selling some of the players, kids and parents will know that we are the academy to go to. the usa is becoming a huge market for football, bring kids through a US academy into the club and we will become big name over there. we can then build academies around the world, maybe even 2 or 3 in the states. imagine the amount of players from around the world that we could pick up! get those players into the team and we would increase our fan base. they would buy the shirts and we would then be in a position to have a global brand on the shirt. we picked up lots of fans from japan because of lee and Yoshi. our notoriety increased massively in Zambia when we signed mayuka as well! you have already said that our team cost little to put together last year, so imagine if we were able to put out a team academy graduates, we could then offer them higher wages as we wouldn't need such a big transfer budget. increase the worldwide fan base and we could then build a nice big stadium that fans from all over would visit. we could become a self sustaining club that produces the best players in the world. then we would truly be a force in word football. i think that is a real vision for the club and one that wouldn't cost a huge amount to start up. give ralph a chance and see where it takes us. I would go even further than just an academy in the states, I would stat an MLS team over there. maybe in boston and call it the `new England saints`. they would of course play in red and white stripes. we could then send some of our academy graduates over there for a season or 2 and give them much needed game time, whilst keeping them under the `saints` umbrella. we could also bring the best of their players over here.[/p][/quote]If he does have a vision it would be nice if he could be bothered to set it out for us. Like some of your ideas, maybe you should write to him. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -2

1:40pm Sat 2 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Looks like the 2 dunnie dweller is after some attention again.....bless
Ignore and it'll disappear.

Some of the papers are saying we're supposed to be lining up a £15m move for Javier Hernandez.
Looks like the 2 dunnie dweller is after some attention again.....bless Ignore and it'll disappear. Some of the papers are saying we're supposed to be lining up a £15m move for Javier Hernandez. J7junctionseven
  • Score: 1

1:57pm Sat 2 Aug 14

footballfan123 says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
Just a comment on a completely different note. Some fans were singing Lamberts name at Brighton. Please DO NOT do this! At Liverpool, especially, we need to get behind our own team and players. Lambert, although with respect, decided to leave Southampton Football Club, would have kicked up a huge fuss if we had said no. Yes he did a good job for us on lots of money, but that' his job. We bought him to score goals. Although I will clap him and don't feel as upset with him as I do the others who have left, he is still one of our rivals now. He could score a hat trick against us on the opening day! He is a Liverpool fan and cares more about them than he does us. Do not sing the name of opposition players! We want to put him off at Anfield not spur him on! Forget him. He decided he would leave us! Please DO NOT sing his name!
SPOT ON ....

the night at Brighton we savaged Dejan Lovren - Luke Shaw got stick and Lallana ridiculed ..

Then all the favourite chants came out in succession ..

Then one lad started ... lamberts a w@nker chant ... to a few boos and then w@nker finger pointing and then the old favourite about rickie.

Rickie Lambert loves LFC and he is one of our rivals now. CLAP if you feel it is appropriate - but NO singing his name.

Let's really get OUR SUPPORT behind our Players - our Club and King Ron Koeman who will not clap or wave - he will be concentrating on WINNING a game of football. COYR+WS
Exactly. Lambert is probably on up to hundred thousand pounds a week playing champions league football. He does not need extra support from the club he has deserted. Get behind the players that wear the badge of SOUTHAMPTON FC. Lambert I am sure would be more than happy to put goals past us so support our own players. I think we look stupid singing the names of previous players, like we can't get over it!!!
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: Just a comment on a completely different note. Some fans were singing Lamberts name at Brighton. Please DO NOT do this! At Liverpool, especially, we need to get behind our own team and players. Lambert, although with respect, decided to leave Southampton Football Club, would have kicked up a huge fuss if we had said no. Yes he did a good job for us on lots of money, but that' his job. We bought him to score goals. Although I will clap him and don't feel as upset with him as I do the others who have left, he is still one of our rivals now. He could score a hat trick against us on the opening day! He is a Liverpool fan and cares more about them than he does us. Do not sing the name of opposition players! We want to put him off at Anfield not spur him on! Forget him. He decided he would leave us! Please DO NOT sing his name![/p][/quote]SPOT ON .... the night at Brighton we savaged Dejan Lovren - Luke Shaw got stick and Lallana ridiculed .. Then all the favourite chants came out in succession .. Then one lad started ... lamberts a w@nker chant ... to a few boos and then w@nker finger pointing and then the old favourite about rickie. Rickie Lambert loves LFC and he is one of our rivals now. CLAP if you feel it is appropriate - but NO singing his name. Let's really get OUR SUPPORT behind our Players - our Club and King Ron Koeman who will not clap or wave - he will be concentrating on WINNING a game of football. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]Exactly. Lambert is probably on up to hundred thousand pounds a week playing champions league football. He does not need extra support from the club he has deserted. Get behind the players that wear the badge of SOUTHAMPTON FC. Lambert I am sure would be more than happy to put goals past us so support our own players. I think we look stupid singing the names of previous players, like we can't get over it!!! footballfan123
  • Score: 4

1:57pm Sat 2 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Mister E wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
long memory wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
FIGHT AND WIN. COYR

RULE 1 OF THIS CLUB - WE DON'T FIGHT OTHER SAINTS FANS.

This Forum does produce wide ranging views of a variety of subjects all things Saints - and that is a GOOD THING.

There is RECOGNITION from the Independents and from within the Club that the current members of the BOARD made some BASIC MISTAKES.

There is also the ACCEPTANCE that when we wanted STRONG LEADERSHIP - Ralph Krueger did not deliver this.

Regarding the PROTEST - Support for this is waning and if we get in 2 or 3 new Players - the Protest will not go ahead as planned.

We must strengthen at CB and additional Number 1 Keeper as a minimum.

The RELEGATION Odds are falling as punters put money on the Southampton Drop. We have posted at length how we got to this point from a very strong position in the League.

What happens next is VITAL.

GET BEHIND THE MANAGER AND THE PLAYERS. COYR+WS
How about rule 2 being no use of gratuitous and unnecessary profanities?
CHANGING SUBJECT RADICALLY ...

You are now getting in to Forum Rules - it has been posted by others before now...

THIS IS A FOOTBALL FORUM where passionate Fans say their bit - whether good or bad or whether they change their minds two minutes later.

This Forum is run by DAILY ECHO that welcomes frank interchange of views- it is not run by the Local Vicar for the Village Magazine.

TRY the Saints Forum - Ugly Inside - etc if you want a different Product.

THE FOCUS is not on the Forum and what one Fan or another may or may not have posted ...

THE FOCUS IS THE START OF THE FOOTBALL SEASON.

LET'S GET THE PLAYERS IN and give KING RON a FIGHTING CHANCE.
COYR+WS
well if you want a forum where you can swear to your hearts content then visit any of the many facebook forums.
as it is this is an non-age restricted forum where fans come to express their opinions within the rules set out by the echo. those rules state that you are not allowed to post anything abusive.
most of us are adults but there will be children who visit the site, mostly from poopey. as adults we should all be able to put our point across without the need for abusive language.
don't get me wrong I`m no prude and can swear like a poopey whore on benefits day. however I am still able to restrict the use of abusive language when children are present.
as you said this site is run by the daily echo and yes they do welcome the frank exchange of views, however they also set the site rules and if you are unable to post within those rules they will remove you from their site.
not having a go at anyone by the way because the negs, wums and normal fans all break the rules.
my feeling is that if it continues the echo may be forced to employ a moderator to run the forums as the news site has done. last time I looked on their, and it was a while ago, lots of posts get removed and it becomes difficult to get a coherent idea of what they are talking about, well more difficult than it normally is!
In 100% agreement with youDe Heiligen.
I have two grandsons (both saints season ticket holders) aged 10 and 12 who come onto this forum daily,especially in recent times,as they are as concerned as we all are to what is going on at our beloved Saints,and I find some of the abusive language totally unacceptable and I personally don't want my grandsons reading such filth thank you.
As for the abuse thrown at the board because some of the fans don't like what is going on at times,I find pathetic,and as I have said before, most people must have instant gratification,or they start throwing their toys out of the pram.
As for the insulting remarks about KL, some of you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves,personall



y I would ban you from coming onto this forum.
I am all for people expressing their views,that is healthy,but there is a correct way of doing it not calling the owner F** K**,and I'm afraid that some of you think the louder you shout or act in an abusive manner,you will win the argument,wrong.
Get your point but how are people on here supposed to know how old some of the posters are???
Maybe if there are young kids occasionally posting on here they should in some way let other posters know or their log in names should have a a clear indication that they are not adults ie "Junior" or something after their name. That way other adults who may be a ted more liberal than others would know and no doubt act accordingly.
The other option would be for the guardians of the kids to proof read a thread before the let their kids come on here.
You should be able to make your point without being abusive or using offensive language! End of!
It's the Daily Echo, do posters really need to be told there may be youngsters interested in Saints that will read these posts?
Yes I do as I've already stated some people are a tad more liberal nowadays and I'm afraid swear words are now a part of every day life.
All the social network sites are awash with them as are a large number of music vidoes/tracks nowadays and other media outlets.
There are even a lot of the words in the dictionary so it's very difficult to shield young kids from exposure.
Many if not most football fans are working class men and women and have also been brought up in environments where swearing has been a normal way of life and not seen as such a bad thing by them as it is by others like yourself.
Like I said earlier , I get it but the odds against a sterile thread are heavily stacked and many people don't really make such a big thing of it.
[quote][p][bold]Mister E[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]long memory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: FIGHT AND WIN. COYR RULE 1 OF THIS CLUB - WE DON'T FIGHT OTHER SAINTS FANS. This Forum does produce wide ranging views of a variety of subjects all things Saints - and that is a GOOD THING. There is RECOGNITION from the Independents and from within the Club that the current members of the BOARD made some BASIC MISTAKES. There is also the ACCEPTANCE that when we wanted STRONG LEADERSHIP - Ralph Krueger did not deliver this. Regarding the PROTEST - Support for this is waning and if we get in 2 or 3 new Players - the Protest will not go ahead as planned. We must strengthen at CB and additional Number 1 Keeper as a minimum. The RELEGATION Odds are falling as punters put money on the Southampton Drop. We have posted at length how we got to this point from a very strong position in the League. What happens next is VITAL. GET BEHIND THE MANAGER AND THE PLAYERS. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]How about rule 2 being no use of gratuitous and unnecessary profanities?[/p][/quote]CHANGING SUBJECT RADICALLY ... You are now getting in to Forum Rules - it has been posted by others before now... THIS IS A FOOTBALL FORUM where passionate Fans say their bit - whether good or bad or whether they change their minds two minutes later. This Forum is run by DAILY ECHO that welcomes frank interchange of views- it is not run by the Local Vicar for the Village Magazine. TRY the Saints Forum - Ugly Inside - etc if you want a different Product. THE FOCUS is not on the Forum and what one Fan or another may or may not have posted ... THE FOCUS IS THE START OF THE FOOTBALL SEASON. LET'S GET THE PLAYERS IN and give KING RON a FIGHTING CHANCE. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]well if you want a forum where you can swear to your hearts content then visit any of the many facebook forums. as it is this is an non-age restricted forum where fans come to express their opinions within the rules set out by the echo. those rules state that you are not allowed to post anything abusive. most of us are adults but there will be children who visit the site, mostly from poopey. as adults we should all be able to put our point across without the need for abusive language. don't get me wrong I`m no prude and can swear like a poopey whore on benefits day. however I am still able to restrict the use of abusive language when children are present. as you said this site is run by the daily echo and yes they do welcome the frank exchange of views, however they also set the site rules and if you are unable to post within those rules they will remove you from their site. not having a go at anyone by the way because the negs, wums and normal fans all break the rules. my feeling is that if it continues the echo may be forced to employ a moderator to run the forums as the news site has done. last time I looked on their, and it was a while ago, lots of posts get removed and it becomes difficult to get a coherent idea of what they are talking about, well more difficult than it normally is![/p][/quote]In 100% agreement with youDe Heiligen. I have two grandsons (both saints season ticket holders) aged 10 and 12 who come onto this forum daily,especially in recent times,as they are as concerned as we all are to what is going on at our beloved Saints,and I find some of the abusive language totally unacceptable and I personally don't want my grandsons reading such filth thank you. As for the abuse thrown at the board because some of the fans don't like what is going on at times,I find pathetic,and as I have said before, most people must have instant gratification,or they start throwing their toys out of the pram. As for the insulting remarks about KL, some of you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves,personall y I would ban you from coming onto this forum. I am all for people expressing their views,that is healthy,but there is a correct way of doing it not calling the owner F** K**,and I'm afraid that some of you think the louder you shout or act in an abusive manner,you will win the argument,wrong.[/p][/quote]Get your point but how are people on here supposed to know how old some of the posters are??? Maybe if there are young kids occasionally posting on here they should in some way let other posters know or their log in names should have a a clear indication that they are not adults ie "Junior" or something after their name. That way other adults who may be a ted more liberal than others would know and no doubt act accordingly. The other option would be for the guardians of the kids to proof read a thread before the let their kids come on here.[/p][/quote]You should be able to make your point without being abusive or using offensive language! End of! It's the Daily Echo, do posters really need to be told there may be youngsters interested in Saints that will read these posts?[/p][/quote]Yes I do as I've already stated some people are a tad more liberal nowadays and I'm afraid swear words are now a part of every day life. All the social network sites are awash with them as are a large number of music vidoes/tracks nowadays and other media outlets. There are even a lot of the words in the dictionary so it's very difficult to shield young kids from exposure. Many if not most football fans are working class men and women and have also been brought up in environments where swearing has been a normal way of life and not seen as such a bad thing by them as it is by others like yourself. Like I said earlier , I get it but the odds against a sterile thread are heavily stacked and many people don't really make such a big thing of it. J7junctionseven
  • Score: -7

1:59pm Sat 2 Aug 14

footballfan123 says...

footballfan123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
Just a comment on a completely different note. Some fans were singing Lamberts name at Brighton. Please DO NOT do this! At Liverpool, especially, we need to get behind our own team and players. Lambert, although with respect, decided to leave Southampton Football Club, would have kicked up a huge fuss if we had said no. Yes he did a good job for us on lots of money, but that' his job. We bought him to score goals. Although I will clap him and don't feel as upset with him as I do the others who have left, he is still one of our rivals now. He could score a hat trick against us on the opening day! He is a Liverpool fan and cares more about them than he does us. Do not sing the name of opposition players! We want to put him off at Anfield not spur him on! Forget him. He decided he would leave us! Please DO NOT sing his name!
SPOT ON ....

the night at Brighton we savaged Dejan Lovren - Luke Shaw got stick and Lallana ridiculed ..

Then all the favourite chants came out in succession ..

Then one lad started ... lamberts a w@nker chant ... to a few boos and then w@nker finger pointing and then the old favourite about rickie.

Rickie Lambert loves LFC and he is one of our rivals now. CLAP if you feel it is appropriate - but NO singing his name.

Let's really get OUR SUPPORT behind our Players - our Club and King Ron Koeman who will not clap or wave - he will be concentrating on WINNING a game of football. COYR+WS
Exactly. Lambert is probably on up to hundred thousand pounds a week playing champions league football. He does not need extra support from the club he has deserted. Get behind the players that wear the badge of SOUTHAMPTON FC. Lambert I am sure would be more than happy to put goals past us so support our own players. I think we look stupid singing the names of previous players, like we can't get over it!!!
Previous players who have left the club and are now our rivals I mean. Sing Le Tissier's name all you like!
[quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: Just a comment on a completely different note. Some fans were singing Lamberts name at Brighton. Please DO NOT do this! At Liverpool, especially, we need to get behind our own team and players. Lambert, although with respect, decided to leave Southampton Football Club, would have kicked up a huge fuss if we had said no. Yes he did a good job for us on lots of money, but that' his job. We bought him to score goals. Although I will clap him and don't feel as upset with him as I do the others who have left, he is still one of our rivals now. He could score a hat trick against us on the opening day! He is a Liverpool fan and cares more about them than he does us. Do not sing the name of opposition players! We want to put him off at Anfield not spur him on! Forget him. He decided he would leave us! Please DO NOT sing his name![/p][/quote]SPOT ON .... the night at Brighton we savaged Dejan Lovren - Luke Shaw got stick and Lallana ridiculed .. Then all the favourite chants came out in succession .. Then one lad started ... lamberts a w@nker chant ... to a few boos and then w@nker finger pointing and then the old favourite about rickie. Rickie Lambert loves LFC and he is one of our rivals now. CLAP if you feel it is appropriate - but NO singing his name. Let's really get OUR SUPPORT behind our Players - our Club and King Ron Koeman who will not clap or wave - he will be concentrating on WINNING a game of football. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]Exactly. Lambert is probably on up to hundred thousand pounds a week playing champions league football. He does not need extra support from the club he has deserted. Get behind the players that wear the badge of SOUTHAMPTON FC. Lambert I am sure would be more than happy to put goals past us so support our own players. I think we look stupid singing the names of previous players, like we can't get over it!!![/p][/quote]Previous players who have left the club and are now our rivals I mean. Sing Le Tissier's name all you like! footballfan123
  • Score: 2

2:01pm Sat 2 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

That's me done on the PC Police Squad debate now as it's starting to get a bit boring.
Another paper is saying Spider deal will be done this weekend ???
They just can't stop themselves can they?
That's me done on the PC Police Squad debate now as it's starting to get a bit boring. Another paper is saying Spider deal will be done this weekend ??? They just can't stop themselves can they? J7junctionseven
  • Score: -1

2:01pm Sat 2 Aug 14

bullsbags says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Looks like the 2 dunnie dweller is after some attention again.....bless
Ignore and it'll disappear.

Some of the papers are saying we're supposed to be lining up a £15m move for Javier Hernandez.
I hope not
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Looks like the 2 dunnie dweller is after some attention again.....bless Ignore and it'll disappear. Some of the papers are saying we're supposed to be lining up a £15m move for Javier Hernandez.[/p][/quote]I hope not bullsbags
  • Score: 0

2:02pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

footballfan123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
Just a comment on a completely different note. Some fans were singing Lamberts name at Brighton. Please DO NOT do this! At Liverpool, especially, we need to get behind our own team and players. Lambert, although with respect, decided to leave Southampton Football Club, would have kicked up a huge fuss if we had said no. Yes he did a good job for us on lots of money, but that' his job. We bought him to score goals. Although I will clap him and don't feel as upset with him as I do the others who have left, he is still one of our rivals now. He could score a hat trick against us on the opening day! He is a Liverpool fan and cares more about them than he does us. Do not sing the name of opposition players! We want to put him off at Anfield not spur him on! Forget him. He decided he would leave us! Please DO NOT sing his name!
SPOT ON ....

the night at Brighton we savaged Dejan Lovren - Luke Shaw got stick and Lallana ridiculed ..

Then all the favourite chants came out in succession ..

Then one lad started ... lamberts a w@nker chant ... to a few boos and then w@nker finger pointing and then the old favourite about rickie.

Rickie Lambert loves LFC and he is one of our rivals now. CLAP if you feel it is appropriate - but NO singing his name.

Let's really get OUR SUPPORT behind our Players - our Club and King Ron Koeman who will not clap or wave - he will be concentrating on WINNING a game of football. COYR+WS
Exactly. Lambert is probably on up to hundred thousand pounds a week playing champions league football. He does not need extra support from the club he has deserted. Get behind the players that wear the badge of SOUTHAMPTON FC. Lambert I am sure would be more than happy to put goals past us so support our own players. I think we look stupid singing the names of previous players, like we can't get over it!!!
He was on £35k a week here and the reports indicated he was offered £40k a week by Liverhampton.
[quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: Just a comment on a completely different note. Some fans were singing Lamberts name at Brighton. Please DO NOT do this! At Liverpool, especially, we need to get behind our own team and players. Lambert, although with respect, decided to leave Southampton Football Club, would have kicked up a huge fuss if we had said no. Yes he did a good job for us on lots of money, but that' his job. We bought him to score goals. Although I will clap him and don't feel as upset with him as I do the others who have left, he is still one of our rivals now. He could score a hat trick against us on the opening day! He is a Liverpool fan and cares more about them than he does us. Do not sing the name of opposition players! We want to put him off at Anfield not spur him on! Forget him. He decided he would leave us! Please DO NOT sing his name![/p][/quote]SPOT ON .... the night at Brighton we savaged Dejan Lovren - Luke Shaw got stick and Lallana ridiculed .. Then all the favourite chants came out in succession .. Then one lad started ... lamberts a w@nker chant ... to a few boos and then w@nker finger pointing and then the old favourite about rickie. Rickie Lambert loves LFC and he is one of our rivals now. CLAP if you feel it is appropriate - but NO singing his name. Let's really get OUR SUPPORT behind our Players - our Club and King Ron Koeman who will not clap or wave - he will be concentrating on WINNING a game of football. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]Exactly. Lambert is probably on up to hundred thousand pounds a week playing champions league football. He does not need extra support from the club he has deserted. Get behind the players that wear the badge of SOUTHAMPTON FC. Lambert I am sure would be more than happy to put goals past us so support our own players. I think we look stupid singing the names of previous players, like we can't get over it!!![/p][/quote]He was on £35k a week here and the reports indicated he was offered £40k a week by Liverhampton. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -1

2:13pm Sat 2 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

bullsbags wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Looks like the 2 dunnie dweller is after some attention again.....bless
Ignore and it'll disappear.

Some of the papers are saying we're supposed to be lining up a £15m move for Javier Hernandez.
I hope not
Not sure about him either especially after the reports about him saying he didn't fancy coming here and would prefer a move to side with CL football
[quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Looks like the 2 dunnie dweller is after some attention again.....bless Ignore and it'll disappear. Some of the papers are saying we're supposed to be lining up a £15m move for Javier Hernandez.[/p][/quote]I hope not[/p][/quote]Not sure about him either especially after the reports about him saying he didn't fancy coming here and would prefer a move to side with CL football J7junctionseven
  • Score: -2

2:20pm Sat 2 Aug 14

george chivers says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
What on Earth inspired a comment like his from the old boy? I generally respect his opinion but it sounds either like a bit of stirring by the press. or is he having a go at our board? I really don't know.

Frankly a bigger surpise is that Arsenal haven't won the Champions League. They have had some high quality players over the years , not just the ones we sold to them. But still they struggle to win anything and their only achhievement is qualifying for the Champions League..... again and again and again. Yawn... They have an amazing stadium and solid core fan base, yet still they under achieve. Im not having a go here, Im just reflecting that with all their money and long heritage its still very tough to progress and win anything substantial these days.

If we take his comments at face value, he is making a speculative pointt at best. We were very good last season but our final league position was fair based on our results. if we are honest we all know this is true. That team was excellent but I odubt it could have lived with the very big European teams.. lets be realistic.

For Saints the future might one day see us qualify for Champions League, not an easy ambition but still one that is not beyond our capability and certainly not beyond our means. But there is still a gap to be filled.

My view on our team last season was that despite it's brilliant flashes and top class start to the season, it still lacked "factor x". We had amazing team spirit - it was worth an extra man in some games - but we lacked one or two players that would have elevated the team to something sublime.

Champions League teams do not lose matches like the ones we slipped up in. A CL team is consistent throughout a season, we were brilliant until the Arsenal away game and then it collapsed rapidly. We regrouped OK but in the end our final position was about right.. we were not a "top four team" .... but we were on the right path.

We are still on the right path though. We have the right manager, we still have a solid core of excellent players with some new some new signings and more youth discoveries still on the way .. I still think we should make top half if everyone lives up to their billing.

The board needs to think through its strategy on communication though. A measured and consistent approach is better than bouts of silence followed by platitudes. The fans ar not stupid. The owners need to consder their stance too, some regular supportive poistive messages would change the current mood significantly. Katarina has a personality, we need to understand it better. I think the board is still learning on its feet. Sometimes that is how it has to be.


So thanks Arsene, you have stirred the bees nest, or the press has, whatever .... but the fans are starting to see the reality of the situation and are beginning to recognise that this probably not the start of the apocalypse but the dawn of a new regime. It's not a question of "what might have been".. its a question of "what might be" ...

Long live Ron, king of kings, look on his works, ye Mighty, and despair !!
If Wenger hadn't sold so many of his star players over the years Cole, Nasri, Fabregas, Van Persie, Adeybayour, etc he could have won the Champions League.

Arsenal are in a similar boat to us, but higher up the pecking order. They don't have enough money to pay high enough wages to win top competitions and keep good players (teams) together. But they do have the stadium and the support. That's what keeps them in the top six of the PL and us out of it.

The pot calling the kettle black I would say.
Wenger has in my book played an absolute blinder. The development of their ground was huge, they had to build roads, relocate industrial estates and much more. Far more involved than building on a greenfield site at Hedge End. As a result it cost £400m!

The consequences were they could massively increase revenue streams but obviously carried large debt. Wenger sold players for top dollar and bought wisely meaning they competed but weren't going to win anything. Now that debt is paid down they can really compete and aim to win things.

We could sign loan players and spend all the money from the sales on a new ground accepting that we will not compete for a while and just aim to stay in the Prem in the short term.

But then that would take vision and we've got Ralph.
I believe KL is in charge of vision statements not Ralph.

He's been employed for his North American Market knowledge not his visionary facility. At the moment I don't think we are doing too badly. Much, however, will depend on the quality and quantity of the replacement players. I think next season, only days away, we will probably take a step backwards, before moving forward the following season.

As for a new stadium. I don't buy into that. Our average attendance is just over 30K which means we rarely fill the ground. If we were to build a new stadium in a more accessible location of say 45K, to fill it we would have to increase our home support from 26k to 41k. A jump of 15k, which is about a 60% increase on our current home support. I don't think that is possible except for 2 or 3 games a season. Plus there is the cost of construction which would be, and I am guessing, about 4 times the cost of St Marys which was about a million pounds per 1000 seats. A lot of money to pay pack while, at the same time bringing in the punters and paying premium wages to home grown English players and foreign imports to sustain a mid table plus league position. A dangerous game I think.

I think the solution for regional clubs like ours is to get rid of the big city clubs in to a European Super League, along with all the other European big city clubs and then we can have a top league in the U.K. which is competitive and more or less any club can win it. I would impose high quotas of U.K. born players into squads and limit the number of loan players from the Super league teams which would bring back local identities to clubs and improve the selection base for the national team.

That way we could fill stadiums and make the games attractive to TV companies, advertisers and sponsors.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: What on Earth inspired a comment like his from the old boy? I generally respect his opinion but it sounds either like a bit of stirring by the press. or is he having a go at our board? I really don't know. Frankly a bigger surpise is that Arsenal haven't won the Champions League. They have had some high quality players over the years , not just the ones we sold to them. But still they struggle to win anything and their only achhievement is qualifying for the Champions League..... again and again and again. Yawn... They have an amazing stadium and solid core fan base, yet still they under achieve. Im not having a go here, Im just reflecting that with all their money and long heritage its still very tough to progress and win anything substantial these days. If we take his comments at face value, he is making a speculative pointt at best. We were very good last season but our final league position was fair based on our results. if we are honest we all know this is true. That team was excellent but I odubt it could have lived with the very big European teams.. lets be realistic. For Saints the future might one day see us qualify for Champions League, not an easy ambition but still one that is not beyond our capability and certainly not beyond our means. But there is still a gap to be filled. My view on our team last season was that despite it's brilliant flashes and top class start to the season, it still lacked "factor x". We had amazing team spirit - it was worth an extra man in some games - but we lacked one or two players that would have elevated the team to something sublime. Champions League teams do not lose matches like the ones we slipped up in. A CL team is consistent throughout a season, we were brilliant until the Arsenal away game and then it collapsed rapidly. We regrouped OK but in the end our final position was about right.. we were not a "top four team" .... but we were on the right path. We are still on the right path though. We have the right manager, we still have a solid core of excellent players with some new some new signings and more youth discoveries still on the way .. I still think we should make top half if everyone lives up to their billing. The board needs to think through its strategy on communication though. A measured and consistent approach is better than bouts of silence followed by platitudes. The fans ar not stupid. The owners need to consder their stance too, some regular supportive poistive messages would change the current mood significantly. Katarina has a personality, we need to understand it better. I think the board is still learning on its feet. Sometimes that is how it has to be. So thanks Arsene, you have stirred the bees nest, or the press has, whatever .... but the fans are starting to see the reality of the situation and are beginning to recognise that this probably not the start of the apocalypse but the dawn of a new regime. It's not a question of "what might have been".. its a question of "what might be" ... Long live Ron, king of kings, look on his works, ye Mighty, and despair !![/p][/quote]If Wenger hadn't sold so many of his star players over the years Cole, Nasri, Fabregas, Van Persie, Adeybayour, etc he could have won the Champions League. Arsenal are in a similar boat to us, but higher up the pecking order. They don't have enough money to pay high enough wages to win top competitions and keep good players (teams) together. But they do have the stadium and the support. That's what keeps them in the top six of the PL and us out of it. The pot calling the kettle black I would say.[/p][/quote]Wenger has in my book played an absolute blinder. The development of their ground was huge, they had to build roads, relocate industrial estates and much more. Far more involved than building on a greenfield site at Hedge End. As a result it cost £400m! The consequences were they could massively increase revenue streams but obviously carried large debt. Wenger sold players for top dollar and bought wisely meaning they competed but weren't going to win anything. Now that debt is paid down they can really compete and aim to win things. We could sign loan players and spend all the money from the sales on a new ground accepting that we will not compete for a while and just aim to stay in the Prem in the short term. But then that would take vision and we've got Ralph.[/p][/quote]I believe KL is in charge of vision statements not Ralph. He's been employed for his North American Market knowledge not his visionary facility. At the moment I don't think we are doing too badly. Much, however, will depend on the quality and quantity of the replacement players. I think next season, only days away, we will probably take a step backwards, before moving forward the following season. As for a new stadium. I don't buy into that. Our average attendance is just over 30K which means we rarely fill the ground. If we were to build a new stadium in a more accessible location of say 45K, to fill it we would have to increase our home support from 26k to 41k. A jump of 15k, which is about a 60% increase on our current home support. I don't think that is possible except for 2 or 3 games a season. Plus there is the cost of construction which would be, and I am guessing, about 4 times the cost of St Marys which was about a million pounds per 1000 seats. A lot of money to pay pack while, at the same time bringing in the punters and paying premium wages to home grown English players and foreign imports to sustain a mid table plus league position. A dangerous game I think. I think the solution for regional clubs like ours is to get rid of the big city clubs in to a European Super League, along with all the other European big city clubs and then we can have a top league in the U.K. which is competitive and more or less any club can win it. I would impose high quotas of U.K. born players into squads and limit the number of loan players from the Super league teams which would bring back local identities to clubs and improve the selection base for the national team. That way we could fill stadiums and make the games attractive to TV companies, advertisers and sponsors. george chivers
  • Score: 1

2:24pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Graham, North of Watford says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
Just a comment on a completely different note. Some fans were singing Lamberts name at Brighton. Please DO NOT do this! At Liverpool, especially, we need to get behind our own team and players. Lambert, although with respect, decided to leave Southampton Football Club, would have kicked up a huge fuss if we had said no. Yes he did a good job for us on lots of money, but that' his job. We bought him to score goals. Although I will clap him and don't feel as upset with him as I do the others who have left, he is still one of our rivals now. He could score a hat trick against us on the opening day! He is a Liverpool fan and cares more about them than he does us. Do not sing the name of opposition players! We want to put him off at Anfield not spur him on! Forget him. He decided he would leave us! Please DO NOT sing his name!
SPOT ON ....

the night at Brighton we savaged Dejan Lovren - Luke Shaw got stick and Lallana ridiculed ..

Then all the favourite chants came out in succession ..

Then one lad started ... lamberts a w@nker chant ... to a few boos and then w@nker finger pointing and then the old favourite about rickie.

Rickie Lambert loves LFC and he is one of our rivals now. CLAP if you feel it is appropriate - but NO singing his name.

Let's really get OUR SUPPORT behind our Players - our Club and King Ron Koeman who will not clap or wave - he will be concentrating on WINNING a game of football. COYR+WS
Exactly. Lambert is probably on up to hundred thousand pounds a week playing champions league football. He does not need extra support from the club he has deserted. Get behind the players that wear the badge of SOUTHAMPTON FC. Lambert I am sure would be more than happy to put goals past us so support our own players. I think we look stupid singing the names of previous players, like we can't get over it!!!
He was on £35k a week here and the reports indicated he was offered £40k a week by Liverhampton.
My view is that Rickie was something of a special.

I still think that Saints upwards promotion and winning ways was 70% team effort and 30% Rickie alone.

Magic for us, magic for England and I would applaud him in any circumstance, anywhere , anytime.

Wildly less impressed with all the other leavers even those I used to think were special for the Team.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: Just a comment on a completely different note. Some fans were singing Lamberts name at Brighton. Please DO NOT do this! At Liverpool, especially, we need to get behind our own team and players. Lambert, although with respect, decided to leave Southampton Football Club, would have kicked up a huge fuss if we had said no. Yes he did a good job for us on lots of money, but that' his job. We bought him to score goals. Although I will clap him and don't feel as upset with him as I do the others who have left, he is still one of our rivals now. He could score a hat trick against us on the opening day! He is a Liverpool fan and cares more about them than he does us. Do not sing the name of opposition players! We want to put him off at Anfield not spur him on! Forget him. He decided he would leave us! Please DO NOT sing his name![/p][/quote]SPOT ON .... the night at Brighton we savaged Dejan Lovren - Luke Shaw got stick and Lallana ridiculed .. Then all the favourite chants came out in succession .. Then one lad started ... lamberts a w@nker chant ... to a few boos and then w@nker finger pointing and then the old favourite about rickie. Rickie Lambert loves LFC and he is one of our rivals now. CLAP if you feel it is appropriate - but NO singing his name. Let's really get OUR SUPPORT behind our Players - our Club and King Ron Koeman who will not clap or wave - he will be concentrating on WINNING a game of football. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]Exactly. Lambert is probably on up to hundred thousand pounds a week playing champions league football. He does not need extra support from the club he has deserted. Get behind the players that wear the badge of SOUTHAMPTON FC. Lambert I am sure would be more than happy to put goals past us so support our own players. I think we look stupid singing the names of previous players, like we can't get over it!!![/p][/quote]He was on £35k a week here and the reports indicated he was offered £40k a week by Liverhampton.[/p][/quote]My view is that Rickie was something of a special. I still think that Saints upwards promotion and winning ways was 70% team effort and 30% Rickie alone. Magic for us, magic for England and I would applaud him in any circumstance, anywhere , anytime. Wildly less impressed with all the other leavers even those I used to think were special for the Team. Graham, North of Watford
  • Score: 1

2:31pm Sat 2 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
Just a comment on a completely different note. Some fans were singing Lamberts name at Brighton. Please DO NOT do this! At Liverpool, especially, we need to get behind our own team and players. Lambert, although with respect, decided to leave Southampton Football Club, would have kicked up a huge fuss if we had said no. Yes he did a good job for us on lots of money, but that' his job. We bought him to score goals. Although I will clap him and don't feel as upset with him as I do the others who have left, he is still one of our rivals now. He could score a hat trick against us on the opening day! He is a Liverpool fan and cares more about them than he does us. Do not sing the name of opposition players! We want to put him off at Anfield not spur him on! Forget him. He decided he would leave us! Please DO NOT sing his name!
SPOT ON ....

the night at Brighton we savaged Dejan Lovren - Luke Shaw got stick and Lallana ridiculed ..

Then all the favourite chants came out in succession ..

Then one lad started ... lamberts a w@nker chant ... to a few boos and then w@nker finger pointing and then the old favourite about rickie.

Rickie Lambert loves LFC and he is one of our rivals now. CLAP if you feel it is appropriate - but NO singing his name.

Let's really get OUR SUPPORT behind our Players - our Club and King Ron Koeman who will not clap or wave - he will be concentrating on WINNING a game of football. COYR+WS
Exactly. Lambert is probably on up to hundred thousand pounds a week playing champions league football. He does not need extra support from the club he has deserted. Get behind the players that wear the badge of SOUTHAMPTON FC. Lambert I am sure would be more than happy to put goals past us so support our own players. I think we look stupid singing the names of previous players, like we can't get over it!!!
He was on £35k a week here and the reports indicated he was offered £40k a week by Liverhampton.
to be honest seed I think he would have gone there for £20k a week. I don't think the money had much to do with the decision, it was pure emotion. looking back at how the players reacted to leaving you have to wonder why a player whos been at the club for less than 5yrs showed more emotion than those that had been here 10yrs+ and learnt their trade here. it seems that liarlanna and chambers couldn't wait to get away and said the wrong things, as did dejerk. luke said the right things after he left but was a bit of a fool prior to going.
rickie was a great player for us and the player we all got behind on our rise to the prem. how many times did we hear that he wouldn't succeed after our promotions? `not good enough for the championship` ` not good enough for the prem`, and of course that idiot of a pundit merson telling us he wouldn't score than 10 goals! I bet he raves about him now hes at liverhampton.
rickie was our leader and we are all gutted he has gone, but would any of us denied him the move?
as for writing to Ralph wit the master plan, my feeing is that hes already thinking like that. I also wouldn't want to be offered the job. ;o)
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: Just a comment on a completely different note. Some fans were singing Lamberts name at Brighton. Please DO NOT do this! At Liverpool, especially, we need to get behind our own team and players. Lambert, although with respect, decided to leave Southampton Football Club, would have kicked up a huge fuss if we had said no. Yes he did a good job for us on lots of money, but that' his job. We bought him to score goals. Although I will clap him and don't feel as upset with him as I do the others who have left, he is still one of our rivals now. He could score a hat trick against us on the opening day! He is a Liverpool fan and cares more about them than he does us. Do not sing the name of opposition players! We want to put him off at Anfield not spur him on! Forget him. He decided he would leave us! Please DO NOT sing his name![/p][/quote]SPOT ON .... the night at Brighton we savaged Dejan Lovren - Luke Shaw got stick and Lallana ridiculed .. Then all the favourite chants came out in succession .. Then one lad started ... lamberts a w@nker chant ... to a few boos and then w@nker finger pointing and then the old favourite about rickie. Rickie Lambert loves LFC and he is one of our rivals now. CLAP if you feel it is appropriate - but NO singing his name. Let's really get OUR SUPPORT behind our Players - our Club and King Ron Koeman who will not clap or wave - he will be concentrating on WINNING a game of football. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]Exactly. Lambert is probably on up to hundred thousand pounds a week playing champions league football. He does not need extra support from the club he has deserted. Get behind the players that wear the badge of SOUTHAMPTON FC. Lambert I am sure would be more than happy to put goals past us so support our own players. I think we look stupid singing the names of previous players, like we can't get over it!!![/p][/quote]He was on £35k a week here and the reports indicated he was offered £40k a week by Liverhampton.[/p][/quote]to be honest seed I think he would have gone there for £20k a week. I don't think the money had much to do with the decision, it was pure emotion. looking back at how the players reacted to leaving you have to wonder why a player whos been at the club for less than 5yrs showed more emotion than those that had been here 10yrs+ and learnt their trade here. it seems that liarlanna and chambers couldn't wait to get away and said the wrong things, as did dejerk. luke said the right things after he left but was a bit of a fool prior to going. rickie was a great player for us and the player we all got behind on our rise to the prem. how many times did we hear that he wouldn't succeed after our promotions? `not good enough for the championship` ` not good enough for the prem`, and of course that idiot of a pundit merson telling us he wouldn't score than 10 goals! I bet he raves about him now hes at liverhampton. rickie was our leader and we are all gutted he has gone, but would any of us denied him the move? as for writing to Ralph wit the master plan, my feeing is that hes already thinking like that. I also wouldn't want to be offered the job. ;o) de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 4

2:53pm Sat 2 Aug 14

footballfan123 says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
Just a comment on a completely different note. Some fans were singing Lamberts name at Brighton. Please DO NOT do this! At Liverpool, especially, we need to get behind our own team and players. Lambert, although with respect, decided to leave Southampton Football Club, would have kicked up a huge fuss if we had said no. Yes he did a good job for us on lots of money, but that' his job. We bought him to score goals. Although I will clap him and don't feel as upset with him as I do the others who have left, he is still one of our rivals now. He could score a hat trick against us on the opening day! He is a Liverpool fan and cares more about them than he does us. Do not sing the name of opposition players! We want to put him off at Anfield not spur him on! Forget him. He decided he would leave us! Please DO NOT sing his name!
SPOT ON ....

the night at Brighton we savaged Dejan Lovren - Luke Shaw got stick and Lallana ridiculed ..

Then all the favourite chants came out in succession ..

Then one lad started ... lamberts a w@nker chant ... to a few boos and then w@nker finger pointing and then the old favourite about rickie.

Rickie Lambert loves LFC and he is one of our rivals now. CLAP if you feel it is appropriate - but NO singing his name.

Let's really get OUR SUPPORT behind our Players - our Club and King Ron Koeman who will not clap or wave - he will be concentrating on WINNING a game of football. COYR+WS
Exactly. Lambert is probably on up to hundred thousand pounds a week playing champions league football. He does not need extra support from the club he has deserted. Get behind the players that wear the badge of SOUTHAMPTON FC. Lambert I am sure would be more than happy to put goals past us so support our own players. I think we look stupid singing the names of previous players, like we can't get over it!!!
He was on £35k a week here and the reports indicated he was offered £40k a week by Liverhampton.
to be honest seed I think he would have gone there for £20k a week. I don't think the money had much to do with the decision, it was pure emotion. looking back at how the players reacted to leaving you have to wonder why a player whos been at the club for less than 5yrs showed more emotion than those that had been here 10yrs+ and learnt their trade here. it seems that liarlanna and chambers couldn't wait to get away and said the wrong things, as did dejerk. luke said the right things after he left but was a bit of a fool prior to going.
rickie was a great player for us and the player we all got behind on our rise to the prem. how many times did we hear that he wouldn't succeed after our promotions? `not good enough for the championship` ` not good enough for the prem`, and of course that idiot of a pundit merson telling us he wouldn't score than 10 goals! I bet he raves about him now hes at liverhampton.
rickie was our leader and we are all gutted he has gone, but would any of us denied him the move?
as for writing to Ralph wit the master plan, my feeing is that hes already thinking like that. I also wouldn't want to be offered the job. ;o)
All agreed, but do not sing the name of a player who is now our rival and who could cost us points etc. There is little room for sentiment in football. He chose to leave us. Understandably so but he now wears the badge of Liverpool FC now. He is also a Liverpool fan.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: Just a comment on a completely different note. Some fans were singing Lamberts name at Brighton. Please DO NOT do this! At Liverpool, especially, we need to get behind our own team and players. Lambert, although with respect, decided to leave Southampton Football Club, would have kicked up a huge fuss if we had said no. Yes he did a good job for us on lots of money, but that' his job. We bought him to score goals. Although I will clap him and don't feel as upset with him as I do the others who have left, he is still one of our rivals now. He could score a hat trick against us on the opening day! He is a Liverpool fan and cares more about them than he does us. Do not sing the name of opposition players! We want to put him off at Anfield not spur him on! Forget him. He decided he would leave us! Please DO NOT sing his name![/p][/quote]SPOT ON .... the night at Brighton we savaged Dejan Lovren - Luke Shaw got stick and Lallana ridiculed .. Then all the favourite chants came out in succession .. Then one lad started ... lamberts a w@nker chant ... to a few boos and then w@nker finger pointing and then the old favourite about rickie. Rickie Lambert loves LFC and he is one of our rivals now. CLAP if you feel it is appropriate - but NO singing his name. Let's really get OUR SUPPORT behind our Players - our Club and King Ron Koeman who will not clap or wave - he will be concentrating on WINNING a game of football. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]Exactly. Lambert is probably on up to hundred thousand pounds a week playing champions league football. He does not need extra support from the club he has deserted. Get behind the players that wear the badge of SOUTHAMPTON FC. Lambert I am sure would be more than happy to put goals past us so support our own players. I think we look stupid singing the names of previous players, like we can't get over it!!![/p][/quote]He was on £35k a week here and the reports indicated he was offered £40k a week by Liverhampton.[/p][/quote]to be honest seed I think he would have gone there for £20k a week. I don't think the money had much to do with the decision, it was pure emotion. looking back at how the players reacted to leaving you have to wonder why a player whos been at the club for less than 5yrs showed more emotion than those that had been here 10yrs+ and learnt their trade here. it seems that liarlanna and chambers couldn't wait to get away and said the wrong things, as did dejerk. luke said the right things after he left but was a bit of a fool prior to going. rickie was a great player for us and the player we all got behind on our rise to the prem. how many times did we hear that he wouldn't succeed after our promotions? `not good enough for the championship` ` not good enough for the prem`, and of course that idiot of a pundit merson telling us he wouldn't score than 10 goals! I bet he raves about him now hes at liverhampton. rickie was our leader and we are all gutted he has gone, but would any of us denied him the move? as for writing to Ralph wit the master plan, my feeing is that hes already thinking like that. I also wouldn't want to be offered the job. ;o)[/p][/quote]All agreed, but do not sing the name of a player who is now our rival and who could cost us points etc. There is little room for sentiment in football. He chose to leave us. Understandably so but he now wears the badge of Liverpool FC now. He is also a Liverpool fan. footballfan123
  • Score: 2

3:10pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
Just a comment on a completely different note. Some fans were singing Lamberts name at Brighton. Please DO NOT do this! At Liverpool, especially, we need to get behind our own team and players. Lambert, although with respect, decided to leave Southampton Football Club, would have kicked up a huge fuss if we had said no. Yes he did a good job for us on lots of money, but that' his job. We bought him to score goals. Although I will clap him and don't feel as upset with him as I do the others who have left, he is still one of our rivals now. He could score a hat trick against us on the opening day! He is a Liverpool fan and cares more about them than he does us. Do not sing the name of opposition players! We want to put him off at Anfield not spur him on! Forget him. He decided he would leave us! Please DO NOT sing his name!
SPOT ON ....

the night at Brighton we savaged Dejan Lovren - Luke Shaw got stick and Lallana ridiculed ..

Then all the favourite chants came out in succession ..

Then one lad started ... lamberts a w@nker chant ... to a few boos and then w@nker finger pointing and then the old favourite about rickie.

Rickie Lambert loves LFC and he is one of our rivals now. CLAP if you feel it is appropriate - but NO singing his name.

Let's really get OUR SUPPORT behind our Players - our Club and King Ron Koeman who will not clap or wave - he will be concentrating on WINNING a game of football. COYR+WS
Exactly. Lambert is probably on up to hundred thousand pounds a week playing champions league football. He does not need extra support from the club he has deserted. Get behind the players that wear the badge of SOUTHAMPTON FC. Lambert I am sure would be more than happy to put goals past us so support our own players. I think we look stupid singing the names of previous players, like we can't get over it!!!
He was on £35k a week here and the reports indicated he was offered £40k a week by Liverhampton.
to be honest seed I think he would have gone there for £20k a week. I don't think the money had much to do with the decision, it was pure emotion. looking back at how the players reacted to leaving you have to wonder why a player whos been at the club for less than 5yrs showed more emotion than those that had been here 10yrs+ and learnt their trade here. it seems that liarlanna and chambers couldn't wait to get away and said the wrong things, as did dejerk. luke said the right things after he left but was a bit of a fool prior to going.
rickie was a great player for us and the player we all got behind on our rise to the prem. how many times did we hear that he wouldn't succeed after our promotions? `not good enough for the championship` ` not good enough for the prem`, and of course that idiot of a pundit merson telling us he wouldn't score than 10 goals! I bet he raves about him now hes at liverhampton.
rickie was our leader and we are all gutted he has gone, but would any of us denied him the move?
as for writing to Ralph wit the master plan, my feeing is that hes already thinking like that. I also wouldn't want to be offered the job. ;o)
I'd have kept him. He was our talisman and his rise from journeyman to England international was inextricably linked with our rise from the ashes.

Many say £4m was great for a 32 year old and normally I would agree with that but in his case I think he was worth far more to us for numerous reasons, not least keeping the other players here, apart from Shaw probably.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: Just a comment on a completely different note. Some fans were singing Lamberts name at Brighton. Please DO NOT do this! At Liverpool, especially, we need to get behind our own team and players. Lambert, although with respect, decided to leave Southampton Football Club, would have kicked up a huge fuss if we had said no. Yes he did a good job for us on lots of money, but that' his job. We bought him to score goals. Although I will clap him and don't feel as upset with him as I do the others who have left, he is still one of our rivals now. He could score a hat trick against us on the opening day! He is a Liverpool fan and cares more about them than he does us. Do not sing the name of opposition players! We want to put him off at Anfield not spur him on! Forget him. He decided he would leave us! Please DO NOT sing his name![/p][/quote]SPOT ON .... the night at Brighton we savaged Dejan Lovren - Luke Shaw got stick and Lallana ridiculed .. Then all the favourite chants came out in succession .. Then one lad started ... lamberts a w@nker chant ... to a few boos and then w@nker finger pointing and then the old favourite about rickie. Rickie Lambert loves LFC and he is one of our rivals now. CLAP if you feel it is appropriate - but NO singing his name. Let's really get OUR SUPPORT behind our Players - our Club and King Ron Koeman who will not clap or wave - he will be concentrating on WINNING a game of football. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]Exactly. Lambert is probably on up to hundred thousand pounds a week playing champions league football. He does not need extra support from the club he has deserted. Get behind the players that wear the badge of SOUTHAMPTON FC. Lambert I am sure would be more than happy to put goals past us so support our own players. I think we look stupid singing the names of previous players, like we can't get over it!!![/p][/quote]He was on £35k a week here and the reports indicated he was offered £40k a week by Liverhampton.[/p][/quote]to be honest seed I think he would have gone there for £20k a week. I don't think the money had much to do with the decision, it was pure emotion. looking back at how the players reacted to leaving you have to wonder why a player whos been at the club for less than 5yrs showed more emotion than those that had been here 10yrs+ and learnt their trade here. it seems that liarlanna and chambers couldn't wait to get away and said the wrong things, as did dejerk. luke said the right things after he left but was a bit of a fool prior to going. rickie was a great player for us and the player we all got behind on our rise to the prem. how many times did we hear that he wouldn't succeed after our promotions? `not good enough for the championship` ` not good enough for the prem`, and of course that idiot of a pundit merson telling us he wouldn't score than 10 goals! I bet he raves about him now hes at liverhampton. rickie was our leader and we are all gutted he has gone, but would any of us denied him the move? as for writing to Ralph wit the master plan, my feeing is that hes already thinking like that. I also wouldn't want to be offered the job. ;o)[/p][/quote]I'd have kept him. He was our talisman and his rise from journeyman to England international was inextricably linked with our rise from the ashes. Many say £4m was great for a 32 year old and normally I would agree with that but in his case I think he was worth far more to us for numerous reasons, not least keeping the other players here, apart from Shaw probably. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 2

3:26pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
What on Earth inspired a comment like his from the old boy? I generally respect his opinion but it sounds either like a bit of stirring by the press. or is he having a go at our board? I really don't know.

Frankly a bigger surpise is that Arsenal haven't won the Champions League. They have had some high quality players over the years , not just the ones we sold to them. But still they struggle to win anything and their only achhievement is qualifying for the Champions League..... again and again and again. Yawn... They have an amazing stadium and solid core fan base, yet still they under achieve. Im not having a go here, Im just reflecting that with all their money and long heritage its still very tough to progress and win anything substantial these days.

If we take his comments at face value, he is making a speculative pointt at best. We were very good last season but our final league position was fair based on our results. if we are honest we all know this is true. That team was excellent but I odubt it could have lived with the very big European teams.. lets be realistic.

For Saints the future might one day see us qualify for Champions League, not an easy ambition but still one that is not beyond our capability and certainly not beyond our means. But there is still a gap to be filled.

My view on our team last season was that despite it's brilliant flashes and top class start to the season, it still lacked "factor x". We had amazing team spirit - it was worth an extra man in some games - but we lacked one or two players that would have elevated the team to something sublime.

Champions League teams do not lose matches like the ones we slipped up in. A CL team is consistent throughout a season, we were brilliant until the Arsenal away game and then it collapsed rapidly. We regrouped OK but in the end our final position was about right.. we were not a "top four team" .... but we were on the right path.

We are still on the right path though. We have the right manager, we still have a solid core of excellent players with some new some new signings and more youth discoveries still on the way .. I still think we should make top half if everyone lives up to their billing.

The board needs to think through its strategy on communication though. A measured and consistent approach is better than bouts of silence followed by platitudes. The fans ar not stupid. The owners need to consder their stance too, some regular supportive poistive messages would change the current mood significantly. Katarina has a personality, we need to understand it better. I think the board is still learning on its feet. Sometimes that is how it has to be.


So thanks Arsene, you have stirred the bees nest, or the press has, whatever .... but the fans are starting to see the reality of the situation and are beginning to recognise that this probably not the start of the apocalypse but the dawn of a new regime. It's not a question of "what might have been".. its a question of "what might be" ...

Long live Ron, king of kings, look on his works, ye Mighty, and despair !!
If Wenger hadn't sold so many of his star players over the years Cole, Nasri, Fabregas, Van Persie, Adeybayour, etc he could have won the Champions League.

Arsenal are in a similar boat to us, but higher up the pecking order. They don't have enough money to pay high enough wages to win top competitions and keep good players (teams) together. But they do have the stadium and the support. That's what keeps them in the top six of the PL and us out of it.

The pot calling the kettle black I would say.
Wenger has in my book played an absolute blinder. The development of their ground was huge, they had to build roads, relocate industrial estates and much more. Far more involved than building on a greenfield site at Hedge End. As a result it cost £400m!

The consequences were they could massively increase revenue streams but obviously carried large debt. Wenger sold players for top dollar and bought wisely meaning they competed but weren't going to win anything. Now that debt is paid down they can really compete and aim to win things.

We could sign loan players and spend all the money from the sales on a new ground accepting that we will not compete for a while and just aim to stay in the Prem in the short term.

But then that would take vision and we've got Ralph.
I believe KL is in charge of vision statements not Ralph.

He's been employed for his North American Market knowledge not his visionary facility. At the moment I don't think we are doing too badly. Much, however, will depend on the quality and quantity of the replacement players. I think next season, only days away, we will probably take a step backwards, before moving forward the following season.

As for a new stadium. I don't buy into that. Our average attendance is just over 30K which means we rarely fill the ground. If we were to build a new stadium in a more accessible location of say 45K, to fill it we would have to increase our home support from 26k to 41k. A jump of 15k, which is about a 60% increase on our current home support. I don't think that is possible except for 2 or 3 games a season. Plus there is the cost of construction which would be, and I am guessing, about 4 times the cost of St Marys which was about a million pounds per 1000 seats. A lot of money to pay pack while, at the same time bringing in the punters and paying premium wages to home grown English players and foreign imports to sustain a mid table plus league position. A dangerous game I think.

I think the solution for regional clubs like ours is to get rid of the big city clubs in to a European Super League, along with all the other European big city clubs and then we can have a top league in the U.K. which is competitive and more or less any club can win it. I would impose high quotas of U.K. born players into squads and limit the number of loan players from the Super league teams which would bring back local identities to clubs and improve the selection base for the national team.

That way we could fill stadiums and make the games attractive to TV companies, advertisers and sponsors.
I have seen nothing to indicate KL is a visionary, why do you thing she is?

I think we would fill an easy access stadium more readily than SMS. If we don't increase capacity then as soon as we rebuild a decent team we will be plundered again. If we catered for walk ups we would fill SMS now for Saturday games, not sure why but Southampton isn't really up for evening games usually.

We have the biggest catchment area of any premier league team. Look at Manchester, double our population yes but has two teams and every single town around it has a professional football club siphoning off some of their potential support - Bolton, Oldham, Bury, Stockport, Blackburn, etc.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: What on Earth inspired a comment like his from the old boy? I generally respect his opinion but it sounds either like a bit of stirring by the press. or is he having a go at our board? I really don't know. Frankly a bigger surpise is that Arsenal haven't won the Champions League. They have had some high quality players over the years , not just the ones we sold to them. But still they struggle to win anything and their only achhievement is qualifying for the Champions League..... again and again and again. Yawn... They have an amazing stadium and solid core fan base, yet still they under achieve. Im not having a go here, Im just reflecting that with all their money and long heritage its still very tough to progress and win anything substantial these days. If we take his comments at face value, he is making a speculative pointt at best. We were very good last season but our final league position was fair based on our results. if we are honest we all know this is true. That team was excellent but I odubt it could have lived with the very big European teams.. lets be realistic. For Saints the future might one day see us qualify for Champions League, not an easy ambition but still one that is not beyond our capability and certainly not beyond our means. But there is still a gap to be filled. My view on our team last season was that despite it's brilliant flashes and top class start to the season, it still lacked "factor x". We had amazing team spirit - it was worth an extra man in some games - but we lacked one or two players that would have elevated the team to something sublime. Champions League teams do not lose matches like the ones we slipped up in. A CL team is consistent throughout a season, we were brilliant until the Arsenal away game and then it collapsed rapidly. We regrouped OK but in the end our final position was about right.. we were not a "top four team" .... but we were on the right path. We are still on the right path though. We have the right manager, we still have a solid core of excellent players with some new some new signings and more youth discoveries still on the way .. I still think we should make top half if everyone lives up to their billing. The board needs to think through its strategy on communication though. A measured and consistent approach is better than bouts of silence followed by platitudes. The fans ar not stupid. The owners need to consder their stance too, some regular supportive poistive messages would change the current mood significantly. Katarina has a personality, we need to understand it better. I think the board is still learning on its feet. Sometimes that is how it has to be. So thanks Arsene, you have stirred the bees nest, or the press has, whatever .... but the fans are starting to see the reality of the situation and are beginning to recognise that this probably not the start of the apocalypse but the dawn of a new regime. It's not a question of "what might have been".. its a question of "what might be" ... Long live Ron, king of kings, look on his works, ye Mighty, and despair !![/p][/quote]If Wenger hadn't sold so many of his star players over the years Cole, Nasri, Fabregas, Van Persie, Adeybayour, etc he could have won the Champions League. Arsenal are in a similar boat to us, but higher up the pecking order. They don't have enough money to pay high enough wages to win top competitions and keep good players (teams) together. But they do have the stadium and the support. That's what keeps them in the top six of the PL and us out of it. The pot calling the kettle black I would say.[/p][/quote]Wenger has in my book played an absolute blinder. The development of their ground was huge, they had to build roads, relocate industrial estates and much more. Far more involved than building on a greenfield site at Hedge End. As a result it cost £400m! The consequences were they could massively increase revenue streams but obviously carried large debt. Wenger sold players for top dollar and bought wisely meaning they competed but weren't going to win anything. Now that debt is paid down they can really compete and aim to win things. We could sign loan players and spend all the money from the sales on a new ground accepting that we will not compete for a while and just aim to stay in the Prem in the short term. But then that would take vision and we've got Ralph.[/p][/quote]I believe KL is in charge of vision statements not Ralph. He's been employed for his North American Market knowledge not his visionary facility. At the moment I don't think we are doing too badly. Much, however, will depend on the quality and quantity of the replacement players. I think next season, only days away, we will probably take a step backwards, before moving forward the following season. As for a new stadium. I don't buy into that. Our average attendance is just over 30K which means we rarely fill the ground. If we were to build a new stadium in a more accessible location of say 45K, to fill it we would have to increase our home support from 26k to 41k. A jump of 15k, which is about a 60% increase on our current home support. I don't think that is possible except for 2 or 3 games a season. Plus there is the cost of construction which would be, and I am guessing, about 4 times the cost of St Marys which was about a million pounds per 1000 seats. A lot of money to pay pack while, at the same time bringing in the punters and paying premium wages to home grown English players and foreign imports to sustain a mid table plus league position. A dangerous game I think. I think the solution for regional clubs like ours is to get rid of the big city clubs in to a European Super League, along with all the other European big city clubs and then we can have a top league in the U.K. which is competitive and more or less any club can win it. I would impose high quotas of U.K. born players into squads and limit the number of loan players from the Super league teams which would bring back local identities to clubs and improve the selection base for the national team. That way we could fill stadiums and make the games attractive to TV companies, advertisers and sponsors.[/p][/quote]I have seen nothing to indicate KL is a visionary, why do you thing she is? I think we would fill an easy access stadium more readily than SMS. If we don't increase capacity then as soon as we rebuild a decent team we will be plundered again. If we catered for walk ups we would fill SMS now for Saturday games, not sure why but Southampton isn't really up for evening games usually. We have the biggest catchment area of any premier league team. Look at Manchester, double our population yes but has two teams and every single town around it has a professional football club siphoning off some of their potential support - Bolton, Oldham, Bury, Stockport, Blackburn, etc. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 1

3:47pm Sat 2 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

It seems as though the echo are all off today......no new threads or transfer gossip for a while now??
It seems as though the echo are all off today......no new threads or transfer gossip for a while now?? J7junctionseven
  • Score: 1

4:03pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Horse, "we picked up lots of fans from japan because of lee and Yoshi."

Unfortunately, we didn't. A few came to some of our matches to see them play. We also get on TV (mostly pay satellite TV) when Yoshida plays regularly, and disappear when he doesn't. When we are on, the commentators are usually very positive about us. Ask around though, the average Japanese person has still never heard of us. Its all Kagawa and ManU, in that order.
my point was that we got people from japan to come to sms. unfortunately we will always be in the shadow of manure, with kagawa, because they are a global brand.
how would we do if we started an academy over there and brought through the top players ourselves?
what coverage did we get out there before lee joined? I bet we get more now. again woulndnt that increase if we started producing the players?
genuine questions because s I said our academy is our usp and I really think that is the way for us to become a global brand, get everyone talking and raving about the saints academy network and brand.
I'm not disagreeing with you, but we have made no real effort, except for a Japanese twitter, to get attention here. If we want to become a global brand, it is something we need to work on before we even think about opening an academy. As an unknown team with an unknown academy, I think we would struggle to compete with Beckham's (I think it is) football school.

I believe that that is RKr's job at Saints. I wish him well with it.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: Horse, "we picked up lots of fans from japan because of lee and Yoshi." Unfortunately, we didn't. A few came to some of our matches to see them play. We also get on TV (mostly pay satellite TV) when Yoshida plays regularly, and disappear when he doesn't. When we are on, the commentators are usually very positive about us. Ask around though, the average Japanese person has still never heard of us. Its all Kagawa and ManU, in that order.[/p][/quote]my point was that we got people from japan to come to sms. unfortunately we will always be in the shadow of manure, with kagawa, because they are a global brand. how would we do if we started an academy over there and brought through the top players ourselves? what coverage did we get out there before lee joined? I bet we get more now. again woulndnt that increase if we started producing the players? genuine questions because s I said our academy is our usp and I really think that is the way for us to become a global brand, get everyone talking and raving about the saints academy network and brand.[/p][/quote]I'm not disagreeing with you, but we have made no real effort, except for a Japanese twitter, to get attention here. If we want to become a global brand, it is something we need to work on before we even think about opening an academy. As an unknown team with an unknown academy, I think we would struggle to compete with Beckham's (I think it is) football school. I believe that that is RKr's job at Saints. I wish him well with it. Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

4:09pm Sat 2 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
What on Earth inspired a comment like his from the old boy? I generally respect his opinion but it sounds either like a bit of stirring by the press. or is he having a go at our board? I really don't know.

Frankly a bigger surpise is that Arsenal haven't won the Champions League. They have had some high quality players over the years , not just the ones we sold to them. But still they struggle to win anything and their only achhievement is qualifying for the Champions League..... again and again and again. Yawn... They have an amazing stadium and solid core fan base, yet still they under achieve. Im not having a go here, Im just reflecting that with all their money and long heritage its still very tough to progress and win anything substantial these days.

If we take his comments at face value, he is making a speculative pointt at best. We were very good last season but our final league position was fair based on our results. if we are honest we all know this is true. That team was excellent but I odubt it could have lived with the very big European teams.. lets be realistic.

For Saints the future might one day see us qualify for Champions League, not an easy ambition but still one that is not beyond our capability and certainly not beyond our means. But there is still a gap to be filled.

My view on our team last season was that despite it's brilliant flashes and top class start to the season, it still lacked "factor x". We had amazing team spirit - it was worth an extra man in some games - but we lacked one or two players that would have elevated the team to something sublime.

Champions League teams do not lose matches like the ones we slipped up in. A CL team is consistent throughout a season, we were brilliant until the Arsenal away game and then it collapsed rapidly. We regrouped OK but in the end our final position was about right.. we were not a "top four team" .... but we were on the right path.

We are still on the right path though. We have the right manager, we still have a solid core of excellent players with some new some new signings and more youth discoveries still on the way .. I still think we should make top half if everyone lives up to their billing.

The board needs to think through its strategy on communication though. A measured and consistent approach is better than bouts of silence followed by platitudes. The fans ar not stupid. The owners need to consder their stance too, some regular supportive poistive messages would change the current mood significantly. Katarina has a personality, we need to understand it better. I think the board is still learning on its feet. Sometimes that is how it has to be.


So thanks Arsene, you have stirred the bees nest, or the press has, whatever .... but the fans are starting to see the reality of the situation and are beginning to recognise that this probably not the start of the apocalypse but the dawn of a new regime. It's not a question of "what might have been".. its a question of "what might be" ...

Long live Ron, king of kings, look on his works, ye Mighty, and despair !!
If Wenger hadn't sold so many of his star players over the years Cole, Nasri, Fabregas, Van Persie, Adeybayour, etc he could have won the Champions League.

Arsenal are in a similar boat to us, but higher up the pecking order. They don't have enough money to pay high enough wages to win top competitions and keep good players (teams) together. But they do have the stadium and the support. That's what keeps them in the top six of the PL and us out of it.

The pot calling the kettle black I would say.
Wenger has in my book played an absolute blinder. The development of their ground was huge, they had to build roads, relocate industrial estates and much more. Far more involved than building on a greenfield site at Hedge End. As a result it cost £400m!

The consequences were they could massively increase revenue streams but obviously carried large debt. Wenger sold players for top dollar and bought wisely meaning they competed but weren't going to win anything. Now that debt is paid down they can really compete and aim to win things.

We could sign loan players and spend all the money from the sales on a new ground accepting that we will not compete for a while and just aim to stay in the Prem in the short term.

But then that would take vision and we've got Ralph.
I believe KL is in charge of vision statements not Ralph.

He's been employed for his North American Market knowledge not his visionary facility. At the moment I don't think we are doing too badly. Much, however, will depend on the quality and quantity of the replacement players. I think next season, only days away, we will probably take a step backwards, before moving forward the following season.

As for a new stadium. I don't buy into that. Our average attendance is just over 30K which means we rarely fill the ground. If we were to build a new stadium in a more accessible location of say 45K, to fill it we would have to increase our home support from 26k to 41k. A jump of 15k, which is about a 60% increase on our current home support. I don't think that is possible except for 2 or 3 games a season. Plus there is the cost of construction which would be, and I am guessing, about 4 times the cost of St Marys which was about a million pounds per 1000 seats. A lot of money to pay pack while, at the same time bringing in the punters and paying premium wages to home grown English players and foreign imports to sustain a mid table plus league position. A dangerous game I think.

I think the solution for regional clubs like ours is to get rid of the big city clubs in to a European Super League, along with all the other European big city clubs and then we can have a top league in the U.K. which is competitive and more or less any club can win it. I would impose high quotas of U.K. born players into squads and limit the number of loan players from the Super league teams which would bring back local identities to clubs and improve the selection base for the national team.

That way we could fill stadiums and make the games attractive to TV companies, advertisers and sponsors.
I have seen nothing to indicate KL is a visionary, why do you thing she is?

I think we would fill an easy access stadium more readily than SMS. If we don't increase capacity then as soon as we rebuild a decent team we will be plundered again. If we catered for walk ups we would fill SMS now for Saturday games, not sure why but Southampton isn't really up for evening games usually.

We have the biggest catchment area of any premier league team. Look at Manchester, double our population yes but has two teams and every single town around it has a professional football club siphoning off some of their potential support - Bolton, Oldham, Bury, Stockport, Blackburn, etc.
They said we would struggle to fill SMS when it was being talked about. As you said seed the dark Lord bottled it and should have gone for 40k instead.
Most of the empty seats are due to poor away support from travelling teams. Theres a whole block that is empty because teams don't bring many fans!
Extend one end first and see what happens, I would go for the northam first. I think we have fans who would love to get to more games but don't bother because it can be hard to get tickets, so make a block a walk up and pay block. I'm sure we could fill 40k a week, apart from away fans.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: What on Earth inspired a comment like his from the old boy? I generally respect his opinion but it sounds either like a bit of stirring by the press. or is he having a go at our board? I really don't know. Frankly a bigger surpise is that Arsenal haven't won the Champions League. They have had some high quality players over the years , not just the ones we sold to them. But still they struggle to win anything and their only achhievement is qualifying for the Champions League..... again and again and again. Yawn... They have an amazing stadium and solid core fan base, yet still they under achieve. Im not having a go here, Im just reflecting that with all their money and long heritage its still very tough to progress and win anything substantial these days. If we take his comments at face value, he is making a speculative pointt at best. We were very good last season but our final league position was fair based on our results. if we are honest we all know this is true. That team was excellent but I odubt it could have lived with the very big European teams.. lets be realistic. For Saints the future might one day see us qualify for Champions League, not an easy ambition but still one that is not beyond our capability and certainly not beyond our means. But there is still a gap to be filled. My view on our team last season was that despite it's brilliant flashes and top class start to the season, it still lacked "factor x". We had amazing team spirit - it was worth an extra man in some games - but we lacked one or two players that would have elevated the team to something sublime. Champions League teams do not lose matches like the ones we slipped up in. A CL team is consistent throughout a season, we were brilliant until the Arsenal away game and then it collapsed rapidly. We regrouped OK but in the end our final position was about right.. we were not a "top four team" .... but we were on the right path. We are still on the right path though. We have the right manager, we still have a solid core of excellent players with some new some new signings and more youth discoveries still on the way .. I still think we should make top half if everyone lives up to their billing. The board needs to think through its strategy on communication though. A measured and consistent approach is better than bouts of silence followed by platitudes. The fans ar not stupid. The owners need to consder their stance too, some regular supportive poistive messages would change the current mood significantly. Katarina has a personality, we need to understand it better. I think the board is still learning on its feet. Sometimes that is how it has to be. So thanks Arsene, you have stirred the bees nest, or the press has, whatever .... but the fans are starting to see the reality of the situation and are beginning to recognise that this probably not the start of the apocalypse but the dawn of a new regime. It's not a question of "what might have been".. its a question of "what might be" ... Long live Ron, king of kings, look on his works, ye Mighty, and despair !![/p][/quote]If Wenger hadn't sold so many of his star players over the years Cole, Nasri, Fabregas, Van Persie, Adeybayour, etc he could have won the Champions League. Arsenal are in a similar boat to us, but higher up the pecking order. They don't have enough money to pay high enough wages to win top competitions and keep good players (teams) together. But they do have the stadium and the support. That's what keeps them in the top six of the PL and us out of it. The pot calling the kettle black I would say.[/p][/quote]Wenger has in my book played an absolute blinder. The development of their ground was huge, they had to build roads, relocate industrial estates and much more. Far more involved than building on a greenfield site at Hedge End. As a result it cost £400m! The consequences were they could massively increase revenue streams but obviously carried large debt. Wenger sold players for top dollar and bought wisely meaning they competed but weren't going to win anything. Now that debt is paid down they can really compete and aim to win things. We could sign loan players and spend all the money from the sales on a new ground accepting that we will not compete for a while and just aim to stay in the Prem in the short term. But then that would take vision and we've got Ralph.[/p][/quote]I believe KL is in charge of vision statements not Ralph. He's been employed for his North American Market knowledge not his visionary facility. At the moment I don't think we are doing too badly. Much, however, will depend on the quality and quantity of the replacement players. I think next season, only days away, we will probably take a step backwards, before moving forward the following season. As for a new stadium. I don't buy into that. Our average attendance is just over 30K which means we rarely fill the ground. If we were to build a new stadium in a more accessible location of say 45K, to fill it we would have to increase our home support from 26k to 41k. A jump of 15k, which is about a 60% increase on our current home support. I don't think that is possible except for 2 or 3 games a season. Plus there is the cost of construction which would be, and I am guessing, about 4 times the cost of St Marys which was about a million pounds per 1000 seats. A lot of money to pay pack while, at the same time bringing in the punters and paying premium wages to home grown English players and foreign imports to sustain a mid table plus league position. A dangerous game I think. I think the solution for regional clubs like ours is to get rid of the big city clubs in to a European Super League, along with all the other European big city clubs and then we can have a top league in the U.K. which is competitive and more or less any club can win it. I would impose high quotas of U.K. born players into squads and limit the number of loan players from the Super league teams which would bring back local identities to clubs and improve the selection base for the national team. That way we could fill stadiums and make the games attractive to TV companies, advertisers and sponsors.[/p][/quote]I have seen nothing to indicate KL is a visionary, why do you thing she is? I think we would fill an easy access stadium more readily than SMS. If we don't increase capacity then as soon as we rebuild a decent team we will be plundered again. If we catered for walk ups we would fill SMS now for Saturday games, not sure why but Southampton isn't really up for evening games usually. We have the biggest catchment area of any premier league team. Look at Manchester, double our population yes but has two teams and every single town around it has a professional football club siphoning off some of their potential support - Bolton, Oldham, Bury, Stockport, Blackburn, etc.[/p][/quote]They said we would struggle to fill SMS when it was being talked about. As you said seed the dark Lord bottled it and should have gone for 40k instead. Most of the empty seats are due to poor away support from travelling teams. Theres a whole block that is empty because teams don't bring many fans! Extend one end first and see what happens, I would go for the northam first. I think we have fans who would love to get to more games but don't bother because it can be hard to get tickets, so make a block a walk up and pay block. I'm sure we could fill 40k a week, apart from away fans. de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 2

4:17pm Sat 2 Aug 14

sparky130a says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
It seems as though the echo are all off today......no new threads or transfer gossip for a while now??
Thank christ for that. We all get a day off from the endless cr@p we've been putting up with these last few months!
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: It seems as though the echo are all off today......no new threads or transfer gossip for a while now??[/p][/quote]Thank christ for that. We all get a day off from the endless cr@p we've been putting up with these last few months! sparky130a
  • Score: 4

4:39pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Enrico Palazzo says...

I find it odd that a quick Google for RK reveals he has told Sky Sports that the Taider deal is done and no mention of it here on the DE.

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I find it odd that a quick Google for RK reveals he has told Sky Sports that the Taider deal is done and no mention of it here on the DE. http://www1.skysport s.com/football/news/ 11700/9403863/transf er-news-ronald-koema n-confirms-deal-for- saphir-taider Enrico Palazzo
  • Score: 2

5:14pm Sat 2 Aug 14

TPFKARTSNINZ says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
seed I think ralph has huge vision for the club.
our usp is our academy so build on the academy name around the world by building `saints fc` academies around the word, that's what he was sorting out in the states by all accounts.
the fact that we have produced he worlds most expensive player and the worlds most expensive teenager makes the saints academy the brand to build on.
even if it means selling some of the players, kids and parents will know that we are the academy to go to.
the usa is becoming a huge market for football, bring kids through a US academy into the club and we will become big name over there.
we can then build academies around the world, maybe even 2 or 3 in the states.
imagine the amount of players from around the world that we could pick up! get those players into the team and we would increase our fan base. they would buy the shirts and we would then be in a position to have a global brand on the shirt.
we picked up lots of fans from japan because of lee and Yoshi. our notoriety increased massively in Zambia when we signed mayuka as well!
you have already said that our team cost little to put together last year, so imagine if we were able to put out a team academy graduates, we could then offer them higher wages as we wouldn't need such a big transfer budget.
increase the worldwide fan base and we could then build a nice big stadium that fans from all over would visit.
we could become a self sustaining club that produces the best players in the world. then we would truly be a force in word football.
i think that is a real vision for the club and one that wouldn't cost a huge amount to start up. give ralph a chance and see where it takes us.

I would go even further than just an academy in the states, I would stat an MLS team over there. maybe in boston and call it the `new England saints`. they would of course play in red and white stripes. we could then send some of our academy graduates over there for a season or 2 and give them much needed game time, whilst keeping them under the `saints` umbrella. we could also bring the best of their players over here.
You are off your head.are you 13 years old? This is like a child's version events.nc had the vision not ralphie boy.global domination...your a crack up.
You must be less than 13 then judging by your pathetic use of the English language. How ironic, Mr 2sheds.
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: seed I think ralph has huge vision for the club. our usp is our academy so build on the academy name around the world by building `saints fc` academies around the word, that's what he was sorting out in the states by all accounts. the fact that we have produced he worlds most expensive player and the worlds most expensive teenager makes the saints academy the brand to build on. even if it means selling some of the players, kids and parents will know that we are the academy to go to. the usa is becoming a huge market for football, bring kids through a US academy into the club and we will become big name over there. we can then build academies around the world, maybe even 2 or 3 in the states. imagine the amount of players from around the world that we could pick up! get those players into the team and we would increase our fan base. they would buy the shirts and we would then be in a position to have a global brand on the shirt. we picked up lots of fans from japan because of lee and Yoshi. our notoriety increased massively in Zambia when we signed mayuka as well! you have already said that our team cost little to put together last year, so imagine if we were able to put out a team academy graduates, we could then offer them higher wages as we wouldn't need such a big transfer budget. increase the worldwide fan base and we could then build a nice big stadium that fans from all over would visit. we could become a self sustaining club that produces the best players in the world. then we would truly be a force in word football. i think that is a real vision for the club and one that wouldn't cost a huge amount to start up. give ralph a chance and see where it takes us. I would go even further than just an academy in the states, I would stat an MLS team over there. maybe in boston and call it the `new England saints`. they would of course play in red and white stripes. we could then send some of our academy graduates over there for a season or 2 and give them much needed game time, whilst keeping them under the `saints` umbrella. we could also bring the best of their players over here.[/p][/quote]You are off your head.are you 13 years old? This is like a child's version events.nc had the vision not ralphie boy.global domination...your a crack up.[/p][/quote]You must be less than 13 then judging by your pathetic use of the English language. How ironic, Mr 2sheds. TPFKARTSNINZ
  • Score: 2

5:30pm Sat 2 Aug 14

batesieboy says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
Come on you big sillies - let's all have a group hug. I'm not sure how Wenger paying us a sort-of compliment has become quite so angry but can we all move on? Ta.
We're angry cos Wenger saw something from afar that our board didn't see from near.
No board in the world could have kept the likes of Bale and Walcott and Chamberlain at Southampton. It's not that we didn't see it - we just had to deal with it. It's sad but true.
Well we're not rich enough to buy them so we have to grow our own. Are you saying we're not rich enough to keep what we grow cos if you are you're saying we will never win anything?
Bingo!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: Come on you big sillies - let's all have a group hug. I'm not sure how Wenger paying us a sort-of compliment has become quite so angry but can we all move on? Ta.[/p][/quote]We're angry cos Wenger saw something from afar that our board didn't see from near.[/p][/quote]No board in the world could have kept the likes of Bale and Walcott and Chamberlain at Southampton. It's not that we didn't see it - we just had to deal with it. It's sad but true.[/p][/quote]Well we're not rich enough to buy them so we have to grow our own. Are you saying we're not rich enough to keep what we grow cos if you are you're saying we will never win anything?[/p][/quote]Bingo! batesieboy
  • Score: 0

5:36pm Sat 2 Aug 14

bullsbags says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
bullsbags wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Looks like the 2 dunnie dweller is after some attention again.....bless
Ignore and it'll disappear.

Some of the papers are saying we're supposed to be lining up a £15m move for Javier Hernandez.
I hope not
Not sure about him either especially after the reports about him saying he didn't fancy coming here and would prefer a move to side with CL football
Liverpool then for 6 games,
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Looks like the 2 dunnie dweller is after some attention again.....bless Ignore and it'll disappear. Some of the papers are saying we're supposed to be lining up a £15m move for Javier Hernandez.[/p][/quote]I hope not[/p][/quote]Not sure about him either especially after the reports about him saying he didn't fancy coming here and would prefer a move to side with CL football[/p][/quote]Liverpool then for 6 games, bullsbags
  • Score: 1

6:24pm Sat 2 Aug 14

hamblepoint says...

Just watched the Arsenal Benfica game. Calum Chambers gave an assured ninety minute display at right central back. Shaw to Man Utd for £30m then on this display Chambers is worth more!
Just watched the Arsenal Benfica game. Calum Chambers gave an assured ninety minute display at right central back. Shaw to Man Utd for £30m then on this display Chambers is worth more! hamblepoint
  • Score: 1

7:02pm Sat 2 Aug 14

billycake says...

bullsbags wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
bullsbags wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Looks like the 2 dunnie dweller is after some attention again.....bless
Ignore and it'll disappear.

Some of the papers are saying we're supposed to be lining up a £15m move for Javier Hernandez.
I hope not
Not sure about him either especially after the reports about him saying he didn't fancy coming here and would prefer a move to side with CL football
Liverpool then for 6 games,
Dont by south amricans danny ings
[quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Looks like the 2 dunnie dweller is after some attention again.....bless Ignore and it'll disappear. Some of the papers are saying we're supposed to be lining up a £15m move for Javier Hernandez.[/p][/quote]I hope not[/p][/quote]Not sure about him either especially after the reports about him saying he didn't fancy coming here and would prefer a move to side with CL football[/p][/quote]Liverpool then for 6 games,[/p][/quote]Dont by south amricans danny ings billycake
  • Score: 0

7:16pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Mister E says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
seed I think ralph has huge vision for the club.
our usp is our academy so build on the academy name around the world by building `saints fc` academies around the word, that's what he was sorting out in the states by all accounts.
the fact that we have produced he worlds most expensive player and the worlds most expensive teenager makes the saints academy the brand to build on.
even if it means selling some of the players, kids and parents will know that we are the academy to go to.
the usa is becoming a huge market for football, bring kids through a US academy into the club and we will become big name over there.
we can then build academies around the world, maybe even 2 or 3 in the states.
imagine the amount of players from around the world that we could pick up! get those players into the team and we would increase our fan base. they would buy the shirts and we would then be in a position to have a global brand on the shirt.
we picked up lots of fans from japan because of lee and Yoshi. our notoriety increased massively in Zambia when we signed mayuka as well!
you have already said that our team cost little to put together last year, so imagine if we were able to put out a team academy graduates, we could then offer them higher wages as we wouldn't need such a big transfer budget.
increase the worldwide fan base and we could then build a nice big stadium that fans from all over would visit.
we could become a self sustaining club that produces the best players in the world. then we would truly be a force in word football.
i think that is a real vision for the club and one that wouldn't cost a huge amount to start up. give ralph a chance and see where it takes us.

I would go even further than just an academy in the states, I would stat an MLS team over there. maybe in boston and call it the `new England saints`. they would of course play in red and white stripes. we could then send some of our academy graduates over there for a season or 2 and give them much needed game time, whilst keeping them under the `saints` umbrella. we could also bring the best of their players over here.
Absolutely, there's logic in that. It's what I took from what Ralph said - at least, I hope that's what he meant!
......from little acorns do great oak trees grow!
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: seed I think ralph has huge vision for the club. our usp is our academy so build on the academy name around the world by building `saints fc` academies around the word, that's what he was sorting out in the states by all accounts. the fact that we have produced he worlds most expensive player and the worlds most expensive teenager makes the saints academy the brand to build on. even if it means selling some of the players, kids and parents will know that we are the academy to go to. the usa is becoming a huge market for football, bring kids through a US academy into the club and we will become big name over there. we can then build academies around the world, maybe even 2 or 3 in the states. imagine the amount of players from around the world that we could pick up! get those players into the team and we would increase our fan base. they would buy the shirts and we would then be in a position to have a global brand on the shirt. we picked up lots of fans from japan because of lee and Yoshi. our notoriety increased massively in Zambia when we signed mayuka as well! you have already said that our team cost little to put together last year, so imagine if we were able to put out a team academy graduates, we could then offer them higher wages as we wouldn't need such a big transfer budget. increase the worldwide fan base and we could then build a nice big stadium that fans from all over would visit. we could become a self sustaining club that produces the best players in the world. then we would truly be a force in word football. i think that is a real vision for the club and one that wouldn't cost a huge amount to start up. give ralph a chance and see where it takes us. I would go even further than just an academy in the states, I would stat an MLS team over there. maybe in boston and call it the `new England saints`. they would of course play in red and white stripes. we could then send some of our academy graduates over there for a season or 2 and give them much needed game time, whilst keeping them under the `saints` umbrella. we could also bring the best of their players over here.[/p][/quote]Absolutely, there's logic in that. It's what I took from what Ralph said - at least, I hope that's what he meant! ......from little acorns do great oak trees grow! Mister E
  • Score: 4

7:28pm Sat 2 Aug 14

THE12THMAN says...

billycake wrote:
bullsbags wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
bullsbags wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Looks like the 2 dunnie dweller is after some attention again.....bless
Ignore and it'll disappear.

Some of the papers are saying we're supposed to be lining up a £15m move for Javier Hernandez.
I hope not
Not sure about him either especially after the reports about him saying he didn't fancy coming here and would prefer a move to side with CL football
Liverpool then for 6 games,
Dont by south amricans danny ings
Is Danny Ings South American? I thought he was English.
[quote][p][bold]billycake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Looks like the 2 dunnie dweller is after some attention again.....bless Ignore and it'll disappear. Some of the papers are saying we're supposed to be lining up a £15m move for Javier Hernandez.[/p][/quote]I hope not[/p][/quote]Not sure about him either especially after the reports about him saying he didn't fancy coming here and would prefer a move to side with CL football[/p][/quote]Liverpool then for 6 games,[/p][/quote]Dont by south amricans danny ings[/p][/quote]Is Danny Ings South American? I thought he was English. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 1

7:29pm Sat 2 Aug 14

freeroamer says...

OK my thoughts on us loosing all out highest profile players this transfter window.
This has been the hardest pre season of my life supporting Southampton. I first went aged eight in 76 just after wee won the fa cup. I saw Mick Shannon score and I was hooked for life. Saints are in my blood and will be till the day i die.
I was devistated to see Lambert and then Lallana go so quickly, and this world cup was ruined for me before it properly started.
We all feared the worst, and when Callum left I know a lot of us threw our own toys out of the pram, me included. Weve all been through grief and suffering, and therefore felt the linked emotion of anger .
Its easy to look at this situation and say, well thats, it, we will always lose our best players to the top six clubs, as soon as someone becomes worth nurturing and keeping we will lose them. I strongly believe after giving this particular situation a lot of thought that it wont necessarily happen, and heres my reasoning if you care to continue reading :-)

I can remember an interview with Ralph Krueger, shortly before the end of last season when he stated he still had a lot to learn. That worried me a lot. A few months on im sure hes realised he was thrown into the deep end. He got thoroughly soaked. In essence weve been hit by the perfect storm. A combination of a successful second season, three England players in our team, (Four with Jay Rod, and who believes hed still be a Saint if hed been fit for the world cup) , the loss of Cortese, and later Pochettino, and of course the world cup, where everyone was tapped up! Its been these individual events which combnined with us being managerless and effectively leaderless due to our boards relative inexperience and WHAM, here we are today.
None of us have enjoyed this, from, Krueger, Reed, even Kat Lieberr. Weve effectively been raped, when we were at our weakest. Id be totally amazed if well ever see anything quite like this again. Im not saying we'll never sell again, what I am saying is i dont believe we have to be scared at the end of this season if we continue to do well.
Obviously next season the key is keeping the manager. My gut feeling is he;ll do us proud and see out at least two years of his contract, we certainly can offer him a competative wage if he does well, one thing we arnt is a poor club.
So, im more positive than i was a month ago. weve all been bloodied together, were war veterans in a way suffering together.

Now lets have the best victory since beating Man Utd in 76, and beat Liverpool in their own back yard, and party till we cant stand anymore afterwards. I used to like Liverpool, i hate them more than Chelsea now, and thats saying something. The way they took advantage of us when we were literally on our knees lacked any class. Lets take them to the cleaners!!!

Southampton till I die!!!
OK my thoughts on us loosing all out highest profile players this transfter window. This has been the hardest pre season of my life supporting Southampton. I first went aged eight in 76 just after wee won the fa cup. I saw Mick Shannon score and I was hooked for life. Saints are in my blood and will be till the day i die. I was devistated to see Lambert and then Lallana go so quickly, and this world cup was ruined for me before it properly started. We all feared the worst, and when Callum left I know a lot of us threw our own toys out of the pram, me included. Weve all been through grief and suffering, and therefore felt the linked emotion of anger . Its easy to look at this situation and say, well thats, it, we will always lose our best players to the top six clubs, as soon as someone becomes worth nurturing and keeping we will lose them. I strongly believe after giving this particular situation a lot of thought that it wont necessarily happen, and heres my reasoning if you care to continue reading :-) I can remember an interview with Ralph Krueger, shortly before the end of last season when he stated he still had a lot to learn. That worried me a lot. A few months on im sure hes realised he was thrown into the deep end. He got thoroughly soaked. In essence weve been hit by the perfect storm. A combination of a successful second season, three England players in our team, (Four with Jay Rod, and who believes hed still be a Saint if hed been fit for the world cup) , the loss of Cortese, and later Pochettino, and of course the world cup, where everyone was tapped up! Its been these individual events which combnined with us being managerless and effectively leaderless due to our boards relative inexperience and WHAM, here we are today. None of us have enjoyed this, from, Krueger, Reed, even Kat Lieberr. Weve effectively been raped, when we were at our weakest. Id be totally amazed if well ever see anything quite like this again. Im not saying we'll never sell again, what I am saying is i dont believe we have to be scared at the end of this season if we continue to do well. Obviously next season the key is keeping the manager. My gut feeling is he;ll do us proud and see out at least two years of his contract, we certainly can offer him a competative wage if he does well, one thing we arnt is a poor club. So, im more positive than i was a month ago. weve all been bloodied together, were war veterans in a way suffering together. Now lets have the best victory since beating Man Utd in 76, and beat Liverpool in their own back yard, and party till we cant stand anymore afterwards. I used to like Liverpool, i hate them more than Chelsea now, and thats saying something. The way they took advantage of us when we were literally on our knees lacked any class. Lets take them to the cleaners!!! Southampton till I die!!! freeroamer
  • Score: 1

7:35pm Sat 2 Aug 14

george chivers says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
What on Earth inspired a comment like his from the old boy? I generally respect his opinion but it sounds either like a bit of stirring by the press. or is he having a go at our board? I really don't know.

Frankly a bigger surpise is that Arsenal haven't won the Champions League. They have had some high quality players over the years , not just the ones we sold to them. But still they struggle to win anything and their only achhievement is qualifying for the Champions League..... again and again and again. Yawn... They have an amazing stadium and solid core fan base, yet still they under achieve. Im not having a go here, Im just reflecting that with all their money and long heritage its still very tough to progress and win anything substantial these days.

If we take his comments at face value, he is making a speculative pointt at best. We were very good last season but our final league position was fair based on our results. if we are honest we all know this is true. That team was excellent but I odubt it could have lived with the very big European teams.. lets be realistic.

For Saints the future might one day see us qualify for Champions League, not an easy ambition but still one that is not beyond our capability and certainly not beyond our means. But there is still a gap to be filled.

My view on our team last season was that despite it's brilliant flashes and top class start to the season, it still lacked "factor x". We had amazing team spirit - it was worth an extra man in some games - but we lacked one or two players that would have elevated the team to something sublime.

Champions League teams do not lose matches like the ones we slipped up in. A CL team is consistent throughout a season, we were brilliant until the Arsenal away game and then it collapsed rapidly. We regrouped OK but in the end our final position was about right.. we were not a "top four team" .... but we were on the right path.

We are still on the right path though. We have the right manager, we still have a solid core of excellent players with some new some new signings and more youth discoveries still on the way .. I still think we should make top half if everyone lives up to their billing.

The board needs to think through its strategy on communication though. A measured and consistent approach is better than bouts of silence followed by platitudes. The fans ar not stupid. The owners need to consder their stance too, some regular supportive poistive messages would change the current mood significantly. Katarina has a personality, we need to understand it better. I think the board is still learning on its feet. Sometimes that is how it has to be.


So thanks Arsene, you have stirred the bees nest, or the press has, whatever .... but the fans are starting to see the reality of the situation and are beginning to recognise that this probably not the start of the apocalypse but the dawn of a new regime. It's not a question of "what might have been".. its a question of "what might be" ...

Long live Ron, king of kings, look on his works, ye Mighty, and despair !!
If Wenger hadn't sold so many of his star players over the years Cole, Nasri, Fabregas, Van Persie, Adeybayour, etc he could have won the Champions League.

Arsenal are in a similar boat to us, but higher up the pecking order. They don't have enough money to pay high enough wages to win top competitions and keep good players (teams) together. But they do have the stadium and the support. That's what keeps them in the top six of the PL and us out of it.

The pot calling the kettle black I would say.
Wenger has in my book played an absolute blinder. The development of their ground was huge, they had to build roads, relocate industrial estates and much more. Far more involved than building on a greenfield site at Hedge End. As a result it cost £400m!

The consequences were they could massively increase revenue streams but obviously carried large debt. Wenger sold players for top dollar and bought wisely meaning they competed but weren't going to win anything. Now that debt is paid down they can really compete and aim to win things.

We could sign loan players and spend all the money from the sales on a new ground accepting that we will not compete for a while and just aim to stay in the Prem in the short term.

But then that would take vision and we've got Ralph.
I believe KL is in charge of vision statements not Ralph.

He's been employed for his North American Market knowledge not his visionary facility. At the moment I don't think we are doing too badly. Much, however, will depend on the quality and quantity of the replacement players. I think next season, only days away, we will probably take a step backwards, before moving forward the following season.

As for a new stadium. I don't buy into that. Our average attendance is just over 30K which means we rarely fill the ground. If we were to build a new stadium in a more accessible location of say 45K, to fill it we would have to increase our home support from 26k to 41k. A jump of 15k, which is about a 60% increase on our current home support. I don't think that is possible except for 2 or 3 games a season. Plus there is the cost of construction which would be, and I am guessing, about 4 times the cost of St Marys which was about a million pounds per 1000 seats. A lot of money to pay pack while, at the same time bringing in the punters and paying premium wages to home grown English players and foreign imports to sustain a mid table plus league position. A dangerous game I think.

I think the solution for regional clubs like ours is to get rid of the big city clubs in to a European Super League, along with all the other European big city clubs and then we can have a top league in the U.K. which is competitive and more or less any club can win it. I would impose high quotas of U.K. born players into squads and limit the number of loan players from the Super league teams which would bring back local identities to clubs and improve the selection base for the national team.

That way we could fill stadiums and make the games attractive to TV companies, advertisers and sponsors.
I have seen nothing to indicate KL is a visionary, why do you thing she is?

I think we would fill an easy access stadium more readily than SMS. If we don't increase capacity then as soon as we rebuild a decent team we will be plundered again. If we catered for walk ups we would fill SMS now for Saturday games, not sure why but Southampton isn't really up for evening games usually.

We have the biggest catchment area of any premier league team. Look at Manchester, double our population yes but has two teams and every single town around it has a professional football club siphoning off some of their potential support - Bolton, Oldham, Bury, Stockport, Blackburn, etc.
I think she is a visionary because of recent events and her vision is short term one. Part of her vision is to maximise the return on her assets so she can minimise her cost base, recoup overspend from Cortese's time and replace the sold assets with cheaper ones that have a lower maintenance costs. e.g wages. and a higher return.

My view is despite what has been said she is here for the short term, say two seasons then she will sell when the business is back to what it was in terms of league position and saleability in terms of profit.

Statements like the club is not for sale. Don't mean the club with never be sold by her, they just mean the club is not currently up for sale. In the way that JRod and Spiderman are not for sale this summer, which doesn't mean they won't be sold in January or next May.

I really don't believe she is going to build an easy access stadium anywhere because that means huge capital expenditure with no guarantee of success and the possibility of huge losses if it goes wrong. Too much of a gamble and the time scale is too long for her and the potential return on the investment is not attractive and indeed may well be negative.

I think we will carry on at St Mary's for many years with or without KL and be a middle of the table club unless the top six break away into a European Super league at some point. We will also continue to sell off young English players at premium prices so big clubs can make there home grown player quotas and we will continue to moan on here about the club's lack of ambition.

I would live to see that change. But for it to happen we need an owner who is crazy about football and crazy about status within football. KL is not that person. Perhaps the next owner will be?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: What on Earth inspired a comment like his from the old boy? I generally respect his opinion but it sounds either like a bit of stirring by the press. or is he having a go at our board? I really don't know. Frankly a bigger surpise is that Arsenal haven't won the Champions League. They have had some high quality players over the years , not just the ones we sold to them. But still they struggle to win anything and their only achhievement is qualifying for the Champions League..... again and again and again. Yawn... They have an amazing stadium and solid core fan base, yet still they under achieve. Im not having a go here, Im just reflecting that with all their money and long heritage its still very tough to progress and win anything substantial these days. If we take his comments at face value, he is making a speculative pointt at best. We were very good last season but our final league position was fair based on our results. if we are honest we all know this is true. That team was excellent but I odubt it could have lived with the very big European teams.. lets be realistic. For Saints the future might one day see us qualify for Champions League, not an easy ambition but still one that is not beyond our capability and certainly not beyond our means. But there is still a gap to be filled. My view on our team last season was that despite it's brilliant flashes and top class start to the season, it still lacked "factor x". We had amazing team spirit - it was worth an extra man in some games - but we lacked one or two players that would have elevated the team to something sublime. Champions League teams do not lose matches like the ones we slipped up in. A CL team is consistent throughout a season, we were brilliant until the Arsenal away game and then it collapsed rapidly. We regrouped OK but in the end our final position was about right.. we were not a "top four team" .... but we were on the right path. We are still on the right path though. We have the right manager, we still have a solid core of excellent players with some new some new signings and more youth discoveries still on the way .. I still think we should make top half if everyone lives up to their billing. The board needs to think through its strategy on communication though. A measured and consistent approach is better than bouts of silence followed by platitudes. The fans ar not stupid. The owners need to consder their stance too, some regular supportive poistive messages would change the current mood significantly. Katarina has a personality, we need to understand it better. I think the board is still learning on its feet. Sometimes that is how it has to be. So thanks Arsene, you have stirred the bees nest, or the press has, whatever .... but the fans are starting to see the reality of the situation and are beginning to recognise that this probably not the start of the apocalypse but the dawn of a new regime. It's not a question of "what might have been".. its a question of "what might be" ... Long live Ron, king of kings, look on his works, ye Mighty, and despair !![/p][/quote]If Wenger hadn't sold so many of his star players over the years Cole, Nasri, Fabregas, Van Persie, Adeybayour, etc he could have won the Champions League. Arsenal are in a similar boat to us, but higher up the pecking order. They don't have enough money to pay high enough wages to win top competitions and keep good players (teams) together. But they do have the stadium and the support. That's what keeps them in the top six of the PL and us out of it. The pot calling the kettle black I would say.[/p][/quote]Wenger has in my book played an absolute blinder. The development of their ground was huge, they had to build roads, relocate industrial estates and much more. Far more involved than building on a greenfield site at Hedge End. As a result it cost £400m! The consequences were they could massively increase revenue streams but obviously carried large debt. Wenger sold players for top dollar and bought wisely meaning they competed but weren't going to win anything. Now that debt is paid down they can really compete and aim to win things. We could sign loan players and spend all the money from the sales on a new ground accepting that we will not compete for a while and just aim to stay in the Prem in the short term. But then that would take vision and we've got Ralph.[/p][/quote]I believe KL is in charge of vision statements not Ralph. He's been employed for his North American Market knowledge not his visionary facility. At the moment I don't think we are doing too badly. Much, however, will depend on the quality and quantity of the replacement players. I think next season, only days away, we will probably take a step backwards, before moving forward the following season. As for a new stadium. I don't buy into that. Our average attendance is just over 30K which means we rarely fill the ground. If we were to build a new stadium in a more accessible location of say 45K, to fill it we would have to increase our home support from 26k to 41k. A jump of 15k, which is about a 60% increase on our current home support. I don't think that is possible except for 2 or 3 games a season. Plus there is the cost of construction which would be, and I am guessing, about 4 times the cost of St Marys which was about a million pounds per 1000 seats. A lot of money to pay pack while, at the same time bringing in the punters and paying premium wages to home grown English players and foreign imports to sustain a mid table plus league position. A dangerous game I think. I think the solution for regional clubs like ours is to get rid of the big city clubs in to a European Super League, along with all the other European big city clubs and then we can have a top league in the U.K. which is competitive and more or less any club can win it. I would impose high quotas of U.K. born players into squads and limit the number of loan players from the Super league teams which would bring back local identities to clubs and improve the selection base for the national team. That way we could fill stadiums and make the games attractive to TV companies, advertisers and sponsors.[/p][/quote]I have seen nothing to indicate KL is a visionary, why do you thing she is? I think we would fill an easy access stadium more readily than SMS. If we don't increase capacity then as soon as we rebuild a decent team we will be plundered again. If we catered for walk ups we would fill SMS now for Saturday games, not sure why but Southampton isn't really up for evening games usually. We have the biggest catchment area of any premier league team. Look at Manchester, double our population yes but has two teams and every single town around it has a professional football club siphoning off some of their potential support - Bolton, Oldham, Bury, Stockport, Blackburn, etc.[/p][/quote]I think she is a visionary because of recent events and her vision is short term one. Part of her vision is to maximise the return on her assets so she can minimise her cost base, recoup overspend from Cortese's time and replace the sold assets with cheaper ones that have a lower maintenance costs. e.g wages. and a higher return. My view is despite what has been said she is here for the short term, say two seasons then she will sell when the business is back to what it was in terms of league position and saleability in terms of profit. Statements like the club is not for sale. Don't mean the club with never be sold by her, they just mean the club is not currently up for sale. In the way that JRod and Spiderman are not for sale this summer, which doesn't mean they won't be sold in January or next May. I really don't believe she is going to build an easy access stadium anywhere because that means huge capital expenditure with no guarantee of success and the possibility of huge losses if it goes wrong. Too much of a gamble and the time scale is too long for her and the potential return on the investment is not attractive and indeed may well be negative. I think we will carry on at St Mary's for many years with or without KL and be a middle of the table club unless the top six break away into a European Super league at some point. We will also continue to sell off young English players at premium prices so big clubs can make there home grown player quotas and we will continue to moan on here about the club's lack of ambition. I would live to see that change. But for it to happen we need an owner who is crazy about football and crazy about status within football. KL is not that person. Perhaps the next owner will be? george chivers
  • Score: -2

7:55pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Chapperall says...

RK mentioned after the Brighton match that he expected some more signings by the weekend so that they have 2weeks together for training. So far it's quiet let's hope things haven't fallen through!
Again on talk sport yet another sports writer has stated we are going to struggle this time from the Times. We appear to be the whipping boys at the moment thanks to all the wantaways. I just hope we can prove them wrong but we desperately need some reinforcements particularly at the back. Looking forward to next Saturdays match at St Mary's as I would have thought we might see the starting 11 for the Liverpool match. I really hope we can at least come away with a draw but can't see it with our current defence.
RK mentioned after the Brighton match that he expected some more signings by the weekend so that they have 2weeks together for training. So far it's quiet let's hope things haven't fallen through! Again on talk sport yet another sports writer has stated we are going to struggle this time from the Times. We appear to be the whipping boys at the moment thanks to all the wantaways. I just hope we can prove them wrong but we desperately need some reinforcements particularly at the back. Looking forward to next Saturdays match at St Mary's as I would have thought we might see the starting 11 for the Liverpool match. I really hope we can at least come away with a draw but can't see it with our current defence. Chapperall
  • Score: 0

8:18pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
What on Earth inspired a comment like his from the old boy? I generally respect his opinion but it sounds either like a bit of stirring by the press. or is he having a go at our board? I really don't know.

Frankly a bigger surpise is that Arsenal haven't won the Champions League. They have had some high quality players over the years , not just the ones we sold to them. But still they struggle to win anything and their only achhievement is qualifying for the Champions League..... again and again and again. Yawn... They have an amazing stadium and solid core fan base, yet still they under achieve. Im not having a go here, Im just reflecting that with all their money and long heritage its still very tough to progress and win anything substantial these days.

If we take his comments at face value, he is making a speculative pointt at best. We were very good last season but our final league position was fair based on our results. if we are honest we all know this is true. That team was excellent but I odubt it could have lived with the very big European teams.. lets be realistic.

For Saints the future might one day see us qualify for Champions League, not an easy ambition but still one that is not beyond our capability and certainly not beyond our means. But there is still a gap to be filled.

My view on our team last season was that despite it's brilliant flashes and top class start to the season, it still lacked "factor x". We had amazing team spirit - it was worth an extra man in some games - but we lacked one or two players that would have elevated the team to something sublime.

Champions League teams do not lose matches like the ones we slipped up in. A CL team is consistent throughout a season, we were brilliant until the Arsenal away game and then it collapsed rapidly. We regrouped OK but in the end our final position was about right.. we were not a "top four team" .... but we were on the right path.

We are still on the right path though. We have the right manager, we still have a solid core of excellent players with some new some new signings and more youth discoveries still on the way .. I still think we should make top half if everyone lives up to their billing.

The board needs to think through its strategy on communication though. A measured and consistent approach is better than bouts of silence followed by platitudes. The fans ar not stupid. The owners need to consder their stance too, some regular supportive poistive messages would change the current mood significantly. Katarina has a personality, we need to understand it better. I think the board is still learning on its feet. Sometimes that is how it has to be.


So thanks Arsene, you have stirred the bees nest, or the press has, whatever .... but the fans are starting to see the reality of the situation and are beginning to recognise that this probably not the start of the apocalypse but the dawn of a new regime. It's not a question of "what might have been".. its a question of "what might be" ...

Long live Ron, king of kings, look on his works, ye Mighty, and despair !!
If Wenger hadn't sold so many of his star players over the years Cole, Nasri, Fabregas, Van Persie, Adeybayour, etc he could have won the Champions League.

Arsenal are in a similar boat to us, but higher up the pecking order. They don't have enough money to pay high enough wages to win top competitions and keep good players (teams) together. But they do have the stadium and the support. That's what keeps them in the top six of the PL and us out of it.

The pot calling the kettle black I would say.
Wenger has in my book played an absolute blinder. The development of their ground was huge, they had to build roads, relocate industrial estates and much more. Far more involved than building on a greenfield site at Hedge End. As a result it cost £400m!

The consequences were they could massively increase revenue streams but obviously carried large debt. Wenger sold players for top dollar and bought wisely meaning they competed but weren't going to win anything. Now that debt is paid down they can really compete and aim to win things.

We could sign loan players and spend all the money from the sales on a new ground accepting that we will not compete for a while and just aim to stay in the Prem in the short term.

But then that would take vision and we've got Ralph.
I believe KL is in charge of vision statements not Ralph.

He's been employed for his North American Market knowledge not his visionary facility. At the moment I don't think we are doing too badly. Much, however, will depend on the quality and quantity of the replacement players. I think next season, only days away, we will probably take a step backwards, before moving forward the following season.

As for a new stadium. I don't buy into that. Our average attendance is just over 30K which means we rarely fill the ground. If we were to build a new stadium in a more accessible location of say 45K, to fill it we would have to increase our home support from 26k to 41k. A jump of 15k, which is about a 60% increase on our current home support. I don't think that is possible except for 2 or 3 games a season. Plus there is the cost of construction which would be, and I am guessing, about 4 times the cost of St Marys which was about a million pounds per 1000 seats. A lot of money to pay pack while, at the same time bringing in the punters and paying premium wages to home grown English players and foreign imports to sustain a mid table plus league position. A dangerous game I think.

I think the solution for regional clubs like ours is to get rid of the big city clubs in to a European Super League, along with all the other European big city clubs and then we can have a top league in the U.K. which is competitive and more or less any club can win it. I would impose high quotas of U.K. born players into squads and limit the number of loan players from the Super league teams which would bring back local identities to clubs and improve the selection base for the national team.

That way we could fill stadiums and make the games attractive to TV companies, advertisers and sponsors.
I have seen nothing to indicate KL is a visionary, why do you thing she is?

I think we would fill an easy access stadium more readily than SMS. If we don't increase capacity then as soon as we rebuild a decent team we will be plundered again. If we catered for walk ups we would fill SMS now for Saturday games, not sure why but Southampton isn't really up for evening games usually.

We have the biggest catchment area of any premier league team. Look at Manchester, double our population yes but has two teams and every single town around it has a professional football club siphoning off some of their potential support - Bolton, Oldham, Bury, Stockport, Blackburn, etc.
I think she is a visionary because of recent events and her vision is short term one. Part of her vision is to maximise the return on her assets so she can minimise her cost base, recoup overspend from Cortese's time and replace the sold assets with cheaper ones that have a lower maintenance costs. e.g wages. and a higher return.

My view is despite what has been said she is here for the short term, say two seasons then she will sell when the business is back to what it was in terms of league position and saleability in terms of profit.

Statements like the club is not for sale. Don't mean the club with never be sold by her, they just mean the club is not currently up for sale. In the way that JRod and Spiderman are not for sale this summer, which doesn't mean they won't be sold in January or next May.

I really don't believe she is going to build an easy access stadium anywhere because that means huge capital expenditure with no guarantee of success and the possibility of huge losses if it goes wrong. Too much of a gamble and the time scale is too long for her and the potential return on the investment is not attractive and indeed may well be negative.

I think we will carry on at St Mary's for many years with or without KL and be a middle of the table club unless the top six break away into a European Super league at some point. We will also continue to sell off young English players at premium prices so big clubs can make there home grown player quotas and we will continue to moan on here about the club's lack of ambition.

I would live to see that change. But for it to happen we need an owner who is crazy about football and crazy about status within football. KL is not that person. Perhaps the next owner will be?
But when I said my ex neighbour told me they were leaving because the club was being sold in two years time I got ridiculed.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: What on Earth inspired a comment like his from the old boy? I generally respect his opinion but it sounds either like a bit of stirring by the press. or is he having a go at our board? I really don't know. Frankly a bigger surpise is that Arsenal haven't won the Champions League. They have had some high quality players over the years , not just the ones we sold to them. But still they struggle to win anything and their only achhievement is qualifying for the Champions League..... again and again and again. Yawn... They have an amazing stadium and solid core fan base, yet still they under achieve. Im not having a go here, Im just reflecting that with all their money and long heritage its still very tough to progress and win anything substantial these days. If we take his comments at face value, he is making a speculative pointt at best. We were very good last season but our final league position was fair based on our results. if we are honest we all know this is true. That team was excellent but I odubt it could have lived with the very big European teams.. lets be realistic. For Saints the future might one day see us qualify for Champions League, not an easy ambition but still one that is not beyond our capability and certainly not beyond our means. But there is still a gap to be filled. My view on our team last season was that despite it's brilliant flashes and top class start to the season, it still lacked "factor x". We had amazing team spirit - it was worth an extra man in some games - but we lacked one or two players that would have elevated the team to something sublime. Champions League teams do not lose matches like the ones we slipped up in. A CL team is consistent throughout a season, we were brilliant until the Arsenal away game and then it collapsed rapidly. We regrouped OK but in the end our final position was about right.. we were not a "top four team" .... but we were on the right path. We are still on the right path though. We have the right manager, we still have a solid core of excellent players with some new some new signings and more youth discoveries still on the way .. I still think we should make top half if everyone lives up to their billing. The board needs to think through its strategy on communication though. A measured and consistent approach is better than bouts of silence followed by platitudes. The fans ar not stupid. The owners need to consder their stance too, some regular supportive poistive messages would change the current mood significantly. Katarina has a personality, we need to understand it better. I think the board is still learning on its feet. Sometimes that is how it has to be. So thanks Arsene, you have stirred the bees nest, or the press has, whatever .... but the fans are starting to see the reality of the situation and are beginning to recognise that this probably not the start of the apocalypse but the dawn of a new regime. It's not a question of "what might have been".. its a question of "what might be" ... Long live Ron, king of kings, look on his works, ye Mighty, and despair !![/p][/quote]If Wenger hadn't sold so many of his star players over the years Cole, Nasri, Fabregas, Van Persie, Adeybayour, etc he could have won the Champions League. Arsenal are in a similar boat to us, but higher up the pecking order. They don't have enough money to pay high enough wages to win top competitions and keep good players (teams) together. But they do have the stadium and the support. That's what keeps them in the top six of the PL and us out of it. The pot calling the kettle black I would say.[/p][/quote]Wenger has in my book played an absolute blinder. The development of their ground was huge, they had to build roads, relocate industrial estates and much more. Far more involved than building on a greenfield site at Hedge End. As a result it cost £400m! The consequences were they could massively increase revenue streams but obviously carried large debt. Wenger sold players for top dollar and bought wisely meaning they competed but weren't going to win anything. Now that debt is paid down they can really compete and aim to win things. We could sign loan players and spend all the money from the sales on a new ground accepting that we will not compete for a while and just aim to stay in the Prem in the short term. But then that would take vision and we've got Ralph.[/p][/quote]I believe KL is in charge of vision statements not Ralph. He's been employed for his North American Market knowledge not his visionary facility. At the moment I don't think we are doing too badly. Much, however, will depend on the quality and quantity of the replacement players. I think next season, only days away, we will probably take a step backwards, before moving forward the following season. As for a new stadium. I don't buy into that. Our average attendance is just over 30K which means we rarely fill the ground. If we were to build a new stadium in a more accessible location of say 45K, to fill it we would have to increase our home support from 26k to 41k. A jump of 15k, which is about a 60% increase on our current home support. I don't think that is possible except for 2 or 3 games a season. Plus there is the cost of construction which would be, and I am guessing, about 4 times the cost of St Marys which was about a million pounds per 1000 seats. A lot of money to pay pack while, at the same time bringing in the punters and paying premium wages to home grown English players and foreign imports to sustain a mid table plus league position. A dangerous game I think. I think the solution for regional clubs like ours is to get rid of the big city clubs in to a European Super League, along with all the other European big city clubs and then we can have a top league in the U.K. which is competitive and more or less any club can win it. I would impose high quotas of U.K. born players into squads and limit the number of loan players from the Super league teams which would bring back local identities to clubs and improve the selection base for the national team. That way we could fill stadiums and make the games attractive to TV companies, advertisers and sponsors.[/p][/quote]I have seen nothing to indicate KL is a visionary, why do you thing she is? I think we would fill an easy access stadium more readily than SMS. If we don't increase capacity then as soon as we rebuild a decent team we will be plundered again. If we catered for walk ups we would fill SMS now for Saturday games, not sure why but Southampton isn't really up for evening games usually. We have the biggest catchment area of any premier league team. Look at Manchester, double our population yes but has two teams and every single town around it has a professional football club siphoning off some of their potential support - Bolton, Oldham, Bury, Stockport, Blackburn, etc.[/p][/quote]I think she is a visionary because of recent events and her vision is short term one. Part of her vision is to maximise the return on her assets so she can minimise her cost base, recoup overspend from Cortese's time and replace the sold assets with cheaper ones that have a lower maintenance costs. e.g wages. and a higher return. My view is despite what has been said she is here for the short term, say two seasons then she will sell when the business is back to what it was in terms of league position and saleability in terms of profit. Statements like the club is not for sale. Don't mean the club with never be sold by her, they just mean the club is not currently up for sale. In the way that JRod and Spiderman are not for sale this summer, which doesn't mean they won't be sold in January or next May. I really don't believe she is going to build an easy access stadium anywhere because that means huge capital expenditure with no guarantee of success and the possibility of huge losses if it goes wrong. Too much of a gamble and the time scale is too long for her and the potential return on the investment is not attractive and indeed may well be negative. I think we will carry on at St Mary's for many years with or without KL and be a middle of the table club unless the top six break away into a European Super league at some point. We will also continue to sell off young English players at premium prices so big clubs can make there home grown player quotas and we will continue to moan on here about the club's lack of ambition. I would live to see that change. But for it to happen we need an owner who is crazy about football and crazy about status within football. KL is not that person. Perhaps the next owner will be?[/p][/quote]But when I said my ex neighbour told me they were leaving because the club was being sold in two years time I got ridiculed. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -1

9:26pm Sat 2 Aug 14

North Wales Saint says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Mister E wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
long memory wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
FIGHT AND WIN. COYR

RULE 1 OF THIS CLUB - WE DON'T FIGHT OTHER SAINTS FANS.

This Forum does produce wide ranging views of a variety of subjects all things Saints - and that is a GOOD THING.

There is RECOGNITION from the Independents and from within the Club that the current members of the BOARD made some BASIC MISTAKES.

There is also the ACCEPTANCE that when we wanted STRONG LEADERSHIP - Ralph Krueger did not deliver this.

Regarding the PROTEST - Support for this is waning and if we get in 2 or 3 new Players - the Protest will not go ahead as planned.

We must strengthen at CB and additional Number 1 Keeper as a minimum.

The RELEGATION Odds are falling as punters put money on the Southampton Drop. We have posted at length how we got to this point from a very strong position in the League.

What happens next is VITAL.

GET BEHIND THE MANAGER AND THE PLAYERS. COYR+WS
How about rule 2 being no use of gratuitous and unnecessary profanities?
CHANGING SUBJECT RADICALLY ...

You are now getting in to Forum Rules - it has been posted by others before now...

THIS IS A FOOTBALL FORUM where passionate Fans say their bit - whether good or bad or whether they change their minds two minutes later.

This Forum is run by DAILY ECHO that welcomes frank interchange of views- it is not run by the Local Vicar for the Village Magazine.

TRY the Saints Forum - Ugly Inside - etc if you want a different Product.

THE FOCUS is not on the Forum and what one Fan or another may or may not have posted ...

THE FOCUS IS THE START OF THE FOOTBALL SEASON.

LET'S GET THE PLAYERS IN and give KING RON a FIGHTING CHANCE.
COYR+WS
well if you want a forum where you can swear to your hearts content then visit any of the many facebook forums.
as it is this is an non-age restricted forum where fans come to express their opinions within the rules set out by the echo. those rules state that you are not allowed to post anything abusive.
most of us are adults but there will be children who visit the site, mostly from poopey. as adults we should all be able to put our point across without the need for abusive language.
don't get me wrong I`m no prude and can swear like a poopey whore on benefits day. however I am still able to restrict the use of abusive language when children are present.
as you said this site is run by the daily echo and yes they do welcome the frank exchange of views, however they also set the site rules and if you are unable to post within those rules they will remove you from their site.
not having a go at anyone by the way because the negs, wums and normal fans all break the rules.
my feeling is that if it continues the echo may be forced to employ a moderator to run the forums as the news site has done. last time I looked on their, and it was a while ago, lots of posts get removed and it becomes difficult to get a coherent idea of what they are talking about, well more difficult than it normally is!
In 100% agreement with youDe Heiligen.
I have two grandsons (both saints season ticket holders) aged 10 and 12 who come onto this forum daily,especially in recent times,as they are as concerned as we all are to what is going on at our beloved Saints,and I find some of the abusive language totally unacceptable and I personally don't want my grandsons reading such filth thank you.
As for the abuse thrown at the board because some of the fans don't like what is going on at times,I find pathetic,and as I have said before, most people must have instant gratification,or they start throwing their toys out of the pram.
As for the insulting remarks about KL, some of you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves,personall




y I would ban you from coming onto this forum.
I am all for people expressing their views,that is healthy,but there is a correct way of doing it not calling the owner F** K**,and I'm afraid that some of you think the louder you shout or act in an abusive manner,you will win the argument,wrong.
Get your point but how are people on here supposed to know how old some of the posters are???
Maybe if there are young kids occasionally posting on here they should in some way let other posters know or their log in names should have a a clear indication that they are not adults ie "Junior" or something after their name. That way other adults who may be a ted more liberal than others would know and no doubt act accordingly.
The other option would be for the guardians of the kids to proof read a thread before the let their kids come on here.
You should be able to make your point without being abusive or using offensive language! End of!
It's the Daily Echo, do posters really need to be told there may be youngsters interested in Saints that will read these posts?
Yes I do as I've already stated some people are a tad more liberal nowadays and I'm afraid swear words are now a part of every day life.
All the social network sites are awash with them as are a large number of music vidoes/tracks nowadays and other media outlets.
There are even a lot of the words in the dictionary so it's very difficult to shield young kids from exposure.
Many if not most football fans are working class men and women and have also been brought up in environments where swearing has been a normal way of life and not seen as such a bad thing by them as it is by others like yourself.
Like I said earlier , I get it but the odds against a sterile thread are heavily stacked and many people don't really make such a big thing of it.
How sad.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mister E[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]long memory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: FIGHT AND WIN. COYR RULE 1 OF THIS CLUB - WE DON'T FIGHT OTHER SAINTS FANS. This Forum does produce wide ranging views of a variety of subjects all things Saints - and that is a GOOD THING. There is RECOGNITION from the Independents and from within the Club that the current members of the BOARD made some BASIC MISTAKES. There is also the ACCEPTANCE that when we wanted STRONG LEADERSHIP - Ralph Krueger did not deliver this. Regarding the PROTEST - Support for this is waning and if we get in 2 or 3 new Players - the Protest will not go ahead as planned. We must strengthen at CB and additional Number 1 Keeper as a minimum. The RELEGATION Odds are falling as punters put money on the Southampton Drop. We have posted at length how we got to this point from a very strong position in the League. What happens next is VITAL. GET BEHIND THE MANAGER AND THE PLAYERS. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]How about rule 2 being no use of gratuitous and unnecessary profanities?[/p][/quote]CHANGING SUBJECT RADICALLY ... You are now getting in to Forum Rules - it has been posted by others before now... THIS IS A FOOTBALL FORUM where passionate Fans say their bit - whether good or bad or whether they change their minds two minutes later. This Forum is run by DAILY ECHO that welcomes frank interchange of views- it is not run by the Local Vicar for the Village Magazine. TRY the Saints Forum - Ugly Inside - etc if you want a different Product. THE FOCUS is not on the Forum and what one Fan or another may or may not have posted ... THE FOCUS IS THE START OF THE FOOTBALL SEASON. LET'S GET THE PLAYERS IN and give KING RON a FIGHTING CHANCE. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]well if you want a forum where you can swear to your hearts content then visit any of the many facebook forums. as it is this is an non-age restricted forum where fans come to express their opinions within the rules set out by the echo. those rules state that you are not allowed to post anything abusive. most of us are adults but there will be children who visit the site, mostly from poopey. as adults we should all be able to put our point across without the need for abusive language. don't get me wrong I`m no prude and can swear like a poopey whore on benefits day. however I am still able to restrict the use of abusive language when children are present. as you said this site is run by the daily echo and yes they do welcome the frank exchange of views, however they also set the site rules and if you are unable to post within those rules they will remove you from their site. not having a go at anyone by the way because the negs, wums and normal fans all break the rules. my feeling is that if it continues the echo may be forced to employ a moderator to run the forums as the news site has done. last time I looked on their, and it was a while ago, lots of posts get removed and it becomes difficult to get a coherent idea of what they are talking about, well more difficult than it normally is![/p][/quote]In 100% agreement with youDe Heiligen. I have two grandsons (both saints season ticket holders) aged 10 and 12 who come onto this forum daily,especially in recent times,as they are as concerned as we all are to what is going on at our beloved Saints,and I find some of the abusive language totally unacceptable and I personally don't want my grandsons reading such filth thank you. As for the abuse thrown at the board because some of the fans don't like what is going on at times,I find pathetic,and as I have said before, most people must have instant gratification,or they start throwing their toys out of the pram. As for the insulting remarks about KL, some of you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves,personall y I would ban you from coming onto this forum. I am all for people expressing their views,that is healthy,but there is a correct way of doing it not calling the owner F** K**,and I'm afraid that some of you think the louder you shout or act in an abusive manner,you will win the argument,wrong.[/p][/quote]Get your point but how are people on here supposed to know how old some of the posters are??? Maybe if there are young kids occasionally posting on here they should in some way let other posters know or their log in names should have a a clear indication that they are not adults ie "Junior" or something after their name. That way other adults who may be a ted more liberal than others would know and no doubt act accordingly. The other option would be for the guardians of the kids to proof read a thread before the let their kids come on here.[/p][/quote]You should be able to make your point without being abusive or using offensive language! End of! It's the Daily Echo, do posters really need to be told there may be youngsters interested in Saints that will read these posts?[/p][/quote]Yes I do as I've already stated some people are a tad more liberal nowadays and I'm afraid swear words are now a part of every day life. All the social network sites are awash with them as are a large number of music vidoes/tracks nowadays and other media outlets. There are even a lot of the words in the dictionary so it's very difficult to shield young kids from exposure. Many if not most football fans are working class men and women and have also been brought up in environments where swearing has been a normal way of life and not seen as such a bad thing by them as it is by others like yourself. Like I said earlier , I get it but the odds against a sterile thread are heavily stacked and many people don't really make such a big thing of it.[/p][/quote]How sad. North Wales Saint
  • Score: 1

9:31pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
What on Earth inspired a comment like his from the old boy? I generally respect his opinion but it sounds either like a bit of stirring by the press. or is he having a go at our board? I really don't know.

Frankly a bigger surpise is that Arsenal haven't won the Champions League. They have had some high quality players over the years , not just the ones we sold to them. But still they struggle to win anything and their only achhievement is qualifying for the Champions League..... again and again and again. Yawn... They have an amazing stadium and solid core fan base, yet still they under achieve. Im not having a go here, Im just reflecting that with all their money and long heritage its still very tough to progress and win anything substantial these days.

If we take his comments at face value, he is making a speculative pointt at best. We were very good last season but our final league position was fair based on our results. if we are honest we all know this is true. That team was excellent but I odubt it could have lived with the very big European teams.. lets be realistic.

For Saints the future might one day see us qualify for Champions League, not an easy ambition but still one that is not beyond our capability and certainly not beyond our means. But there is still a gap to be filled.

My view on our team last season was that despite it's brilliant flashes and top class start to the season, it still lacked "factor x". We had amazing team spirit - it was worth an extra man in some games - but we lacked one or two players that would have elevated the team to something sublime.

Champions League teams do not lose matches like the ones we slipped up in. A CL team is consistent throughout a season, we were brilliant until the Arsenal away game and then it collapsed rapidly. We regrouped OK but in the end our final position was about right.. we were not a "top four team" .... but we were on the right path.

We are still on the right path though. We have the right manager, we still have a solid core of excellent players with some new some new signings and more youth discoveries still on the way .. I still think we should make top half if everyone lives up to their billing.

The board needs to think through its strategy on communication though. A measured and consistent approach is better than bouts of silence followed by platitudes. The fans ar not stupid. The owners need to consder their stance too, some regular supportive poistive messages would change the current mood significantly. Katarina has a personality, we need to understand it better. I think the board is still learning on its feet. Sometimes that is how it has to be.


So thanks Arsene, you have stirred the bees nest, or the press has, whatever .... but the fans are starting to see the reality of the situation and are beginning to recognise that this probably not the start of the apocalypse but the dawn of a new regime. It's not a question of "what might have been".. its a question of "what might be" ...

Long live Ron, king of kings, look on his works, ye Mighty, and despair !!
If Wenger hadn't sold so many of his star players over the years Cole, Nasri, Fabregas, Van Persie, Adeybayour, etc he could have won the Champions League.

Arsenal are in a similar boat to us, but higher up the pecking order. They don't have enough money to pay high enough wages to win top competitions and keep good players (teams) together. But they do have the stadium and the support. That's what keeps them in the top six of the PL and us out of it.

The pot calling the kettle black I would say.
Wenger has in my book played an absolute blinder. The development of their ground was huge, they had to build roads, relocate industrial estates and much more. Far more involved than building on a greenfield site at Hedge End. As a result it cost £400m!

The consequences were they could massively increase revenue streams but obviously carried large debt. Wenger sold players for top dollar and bought wisely meaning they competed but weren't going to win anything. Now that debt is paid down they can really compete and aim to win things.

We could sign loan players and spend all the money from the sales on a new ground accepting that we will not compete for a while and just aim to stay in the Prem in the short term.

But then that would take vision and we've got Ralph.
I believe KL is in charge of vision statements not Ralph.

He's been employed for his North American Market knowledge not his visionary facility. At the moment I don't think we are doing too badly. Much, however, will depend on the quality and quantity of the replacement players. I think next season, only days away, we will probably take a step backwards, before moving forward the following season.

As for a new stadium. I don't buy into that. Our average attendance is just over 30K which means we rarely fill the ground. If we were to build a new stadium in a more accessible location of say 45K, to fill it we would have to increase our home support from 26k to 41k. A jump of 15k, which is about a 60% increase on our current home support. I don't think that is possible except for 2 or 3 games a season. Plus there is the cost of construction which would be, and I am guessing, about 4 times the cost of St Marys which was about a million pounds per 1000 seats. A lot of money to pay pack while, at the same time bringing in the punters and paying premium wages to home grown English players and foreign imports to sustain a mid table plus league position. A dangerous game I think.

I think the solution for regional clubs like ours is to get rid of the big city clubs in to a European Super League, along with all the other European big city clubs and then we can have a top league in the U.K. which is competitive and more or less any club can win it. I would impose high quotas of U.K. born players into squads and limit the number of loan players from the Super league teams which would bring back local identities to clubs and improve the selection base for the national team.

That way we could fill stadiums and make the games attractive to TV companies, advertisers and sponsors.
I have seen nothing to indicate KL is a visionary, why do you thing she is?

I think we would fill an easy access stadium more readily than SMS. If we don't increase capacity then as soon as we rebuild a decent team we will be plundered again. If we catered for walk ups we would fill SMS now for Saturday games, not sure why but Southampton isn't really up for evening games usually.

We have the biggest catchment area of any premier league team. Look at Manchester, double our population yes but has two teams and every single town around it has a professional football club siphoning off some of their potential support - Bolton, Oldham, Bury, Stockport, Blackburn, etc.
I think she is a visionary because of recent events and her vision is short term one. Part of her vision is to maximise the return on her assets so she can minimise her cost base, recoup overspend from Cortese's time and replace the sold assets with cheaper ones that have a lower maintenance costs. e.g wages. and a higher return.

My view is despite what has been said she is here for the short term, say two seasons then she will sell when the business is back to what it was in terms of league position and saleability in terms of profit.

Statements like the club is not for sale. Don't mean the club with never be sold by her, they just mean the club is not currently up for sale. In the way that JRod and Spiderman are not for sale this summer, which doesn't mean they won't be sold in January or next May.

I really don't believe she is going to build an easy access stadium anywhere because that means huge capital expenditure with no guarantee of success and the possibility of huge losses if it goes wrong. Too much of a gamble and the time scale is too long for her and the potential return on the investment is not attractive and indeed may well be negative.

I think we will carry on at St Mary's for many years with or without KL and be a middle of the table club unless the top six break away into a European Super league at some point. We will also continue to sell off young English players at premium prices so big clubs can make there home grown player quotas and we will continue to moan on here about the club's lack of ambition.

I would live to see that change. But for it to happen we need an owner who is crazy about football and crazy about status within football. KL is not that person. Perhaps the next owner will be?
How sad.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: What on Earth inspired a comment like his from the old boy? I generally respect his opinion but it sounds either like a bit of stirring by the press. or is he having a go at our board? I really don't know. Frankly a bigger surpise is that Arsenal haven't won the Champions League. They have had some high quality players over the years , not just the ones we sold to them. But still they struggle to win anything and their only achhievement is qualifying for the Champions League..... again and again and again. Yawn... They have an amazing stadium and solid core fan base, yet still they under achieve. Im not having a go here, Im just reflecting that with all their money and long heritage its still very tough to progress and win anything substantial these days. If we take his comments at face value, he is making a speculative pointt at best. We were very good last season but our final league position was fair based on our results. if we are honest we all know this is true. That team was excellent but I odubt it could have lived with the very big European teams.. lets be realistic. For Saints the future might one day see us qualify for Champions League, not an easy ambition but still one that is not beyond our capability and certainly not beyond our means. But there is still a gap to be filled. My view on our team last season was that despite it's brilliant flashes and top class start to the season, it still lacked "factor x". We had amazing team spirit - it was worth an extra man in some games - but we lacked one or two players that would have elevated the team to something sublime. Champions League teams do not lose matches like the ones we slipped up in. A CL team is consistent throughout a season, we were brilliant until the Arsenal away game and then it collapsed rapidly. We regrouped OK but in the end our final position was about right.. we were not a "top four team" .... but we were on the right path. We are still on the right path though. We have the right manager, we still have a solid core of excellent players with some new some new signings and more youth discoveries still on the way .. I still think we should make top half if everyone lives up to their billing. The board needs to think through its strategy on communication though. A measured and consistent approach is better than bouts of silence followed by platitudes. The fans ar not stupid. The owners need to consder their stance too, some regular supportive poistive messages would change the current mood significantly. Katarina has a personality, we need to understand it better. I think the board is still learning on its feet. Sometimes that is how it has to be. So thanks Arsene, you have stirred the bees nest, or the press has, whatever .... but the fans are starting to see the reality of the situation and are beginning to recognise that this probably not the start of the apocalypse but the dawn of a new regime. It's not a question of "what might have been".. its a question of "what might be" ... Long live Ron, king of kings, look on his works, ye Mighty, and despair !![/p][/quote]If Wenger hadn't sold so many of his star players over the years Cole, Nasri, Fabregas, Van Persie, Adeybayour, etc he could have won the Champions League. Arsenal are in a similar boat to us, but higher up the pecking order. They don't have enough money to pay high enough wages to win top competitions and keep good players (teams) together. But they do have the stadium and the support. That's what keeps them in the top six of the PL and us out of it. The pot calling the kettle black I would say.[/p][/quote]Wenger has in my book played an absolute blinder. The development of their ground was huge, they had to build roads, relocate industrial estates and much more. Far more involved than building on a greenfield site at Hedge End. As a result it cost £400m! The consequences were they could massively increase revenue streams but obviously carried large debt. Wenger sold players for top dollar and bought wisely meaning they competed but weren't going to win anything. Now that debt is paid down they can really compete and aim to win things. We could sign loan players and spend all the money from the sales on a new ground accepting that we will not compete for a while and just aim to stay in the Prem in the short term. But then that would take vision and we've got Ralph.[/p][/quote]I believe KL is in charge of vision statements not Ralph. He's been employed for his North American Market knowledge not his visionary facility. At the moment I don't think we are doing too badly. Much, however, will depend on the quality and quantity of the replacement players. I think next season, only days away, we will probably take a step backwards, before moving forward the following season. As for a new stadium. I don't buy into that. Our average attendance is just over 30K which means we rarely fill the ground. If we were to build a new stadium in a more accessible location of say 45K, to fill it we would have to increase our home support from 26k to 41k. A jump of 15k, which is about a 60% increase on our current home support. I don't think that is possible except for 2 or 3 games a season. Plus there is the cost of construction which would be, and I am guessing, about 4 times the cost of St Marys which was about a million pounds per 1000 seats. A lot of money to pay pack while, at the same time bringing in the punters and paying premium wages to home grown English players and foreign imports to sustain a mid table plus league position. A dangerous game I think. I think the solution for regional clubs like ours is to get rid of the big city clubs in to a European Super League, along with all the other European big city clubs and then we can have a top league in the U.K. which is competitive and more or less any club can win it. I would impose high quotas of U.K. born players into squads and limit the number of loan players from the Super league teams which would bring back local identities to clubs and improve the selection base for the national team. That way we could fill stadiums and make the games attractive to TV companies, advertisers and sponsors.[/p][/quote]I have seen nothing to indicate KL is a visionary, why do you thing she is? I think we would fill an easy access stadium more readily than SMS. If we don't increase capacity then as soon as we rebuild a decent team we will be plundered again. If we catered for walk ups we would fill SMS now for Saturday games, not sure why but Southampton isn't really up for evening games usually. We have the biggest catchment area of any premier league team. Look at Manchester, double our population yes but has two teams and every single town around it has a professional football club siphoning off some of their potential support - Bolton, Oldham, Bury, Stockport, Blackburn, etc.[/p][/quote]I think she is a visionary because of recent events and her vision is short term one. Part of her vision is to maximise the return on her assets so she can minimise her cost base, recoup overspend from Cortese's time and replace the sold assets with cheaper ones that have a lower maintenance costs. e.g wages. and a higher return. My view is despite what has been said she is here for the short term, say two seasons then she will sell when the business is back to what it was in terms of league position and saleability in terms of profit. Statements like the club is not for sale. Don't mean the club with never be sold by her, they just mean the club is not currently up for sale. In the way that JRod and Spiderman are not for sale this summer, which doesn't mean they won't be sold in January or next May. I really don't believe she is going to build an easy access stadium anywhere because that means huge capital expenditure with no guarantee of success and the possibility of huge losses if it goes wrong. Too much of a gamble and the time scale is too long for her and the potential return on the investment is not attractive and indeed may well be negative. I think we will carry on at St Mary's for many years with or without KL and be a middle of the table club unless the top six break away into a European Super league at some point. We will also continue to sell off young English players at premium prices so big clubs can make there home grown player quotas and we will continue to moan on here about the club's lack of ambition. I would live to see that change. But for it to happen we need an owner who is crazy about football and crazy about status within football. KL is not that person. Perhaps the next owner will be?[/p][/quote]How sad. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 6

9:53pm Sat 2 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

North Wales Saint wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Mister E wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
long memory wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
FIGHT AND WIN. COYR

RULE 1 OF THIS CLUB - WE DON'T FIGHT OTHER SAINTS FANS.

This Forum does produce wide ranging views of a variety of subjects all things Saints - and that is a GOOD THING.

There is RECOGNITION from the Independents and from within the Club that the current members of the BOARD made some BASIC MISTAKES.

There is also the ACCEPTANCE that when we wanted STRONG LEADERSHIP - Ralph Krueger did not deliver this.

Regarding the PROTEST - Support for this is waning and if we get in 2 or 3 new Players - the Protest will not go ahead as planned.

We must strengthen at CB and additional Number 1 Keeper as a minimum.

The RELEGATION Odds are falling as punters put money on the Southampton Drop. We have posted at length how we got to this point from a very strong position in the League.

What happens next is VITAL.

GET BEHIND THE MANAGER AND THE PLAYERS. COYR+WS
How about rule 2 being no use of gratuitous and unnecessary profanities?
CHANGING SUBJECT RADICALLY ...

You are now getting in to Forum Rules - it has been posted by others before now...

THIS IS A FOOTBALL FORUM where passionate Fans say their bit - whether good or bad or whether they change their minds two minutes later.

This Forum is run by DAILY ECHO that welcomes frank interchange of views- it is not run by the Local Vicar for the Village Magazine.

TRY the Saints Forum - Ugly Inside - etc if you want a different Product.

THE FOCUS is not on the Forum and what one Fan or another may or may not have posted ...

THE FOCUS IS THE START OF THE FOOTBALL SEASON.

LET'S GET THE PLAYERS IN and give KING RON a FIGHTING CHANCE.
COYR+WS
well if you want a forum where you can swear to your hearts content then visit any of the many facebook forums.
as it is this is an non-age restricted forum where fans come to express their opinions within the rules set out by the echo. those rules state that you are not allowed to post anything abusive.
most of us are adults but there will be children who visit the site, mostly from poopey. as adults we should all be able to put our point across without the need for abusive language.
don't get me wrong I`m no prude and can swear like a poopey whore on benefits day. however I am still able to restrict the use of abusive language when children are present.
as you said this site is run by the daily echo and yes they do welcome the frank exchange of views, however they also set the site rules and if you are unable to post within those rules they will remove you from their site.
not having a go at anyone by the way because the negs, wums and normal fans all break the rules.
my feeling is that if it continues the echo may be forced to employ a moderator to run the forums as the news site has done. last time I looked on their, and it was a while ago, lots of posts get removed and it becomes difficult to get a coherent idea of what they are talking about, well more difficult than it normally is!
In 100% agreement with youDe Heiligen.
I have two grandsons (both saints season ticket holders) aged 10 and 12 who come onto this forum daily,especially in recent times,as they are as concerned as we all are to what is going on at our beloved Saints,and I find some of the abusive language totally unacceptable and I personally don't want my grandsons reading such filth thank you.
As for the abuse thrown at the board because some of the fans don't like what is going on at times,I find pathetic,and as I have said before, most people must have instant gratification,or they start throwing their toys out of the pram.
As for the insulting remarks about KL, some of you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves,personall





y I would ban you from coming onto this forum.
I am all for people expressing their views,that is healthy,but there is a correct way of doing it not calling the owner F** K**,and I'm afraid that some of you think the louder you shout or act in an abusive manner,you will win the argument,wrong.
Get your point but how are people on here supposed to know how old some of the posters are???
Maybe if there are young kids occasionally posting on here they should in some way let other posters know or their log in names should have a a clear indication that they are not adults ie "Junior" or something after their name. That way other adults who may be a ted more liberal than others would know and no doubt act accordingly.
The other option would be for the guardians of the kids to proof read a thread before the let their kids come on here.
You should be able to make your point without being abusive or using offensive language! End of!
It's the Daily Echo, do posters really need to be told there may be youngsters interested in Saints that will read these posts?
Yes I do as I've already stated some people are a tad more liberal nowadays and I'm afraid swear words are now a part of every day life.
All the social network sites are awash with them as are a large number of music vidoes/tracks nowadays and other media outlets.
There are even a lot of the words in the dictionary so it's very difficult to shield young kids from exposure.
Many if not most football fans are working class men and women and have also been brought up in environments where swearing has been a normal way of life and not seen as such a bad thing by them as it is by others like yourself.
Like I said earlier , I get it but the odds against a sterile thread are heavily stacked and many people don't really make such a big thing of it.
How sad.
.....but true
[quote][p][bold]North Wales Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mister E[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]long memory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: FIGHT AND WIN. COYR RULE 1 OF THIS CLUB - WE DON'T FIGHT OTHER SAINTS FANS. This Forum does produce wide ranging views of a variety of subjects all things Saints - and that is a GOOD THING. There is RECOGNITION from the Independents and from within the Club that the current members of the BOARD made some BASIC MISTAKES. There is also the ACCEPTANCE that when we wanted STRONG LEADERSHIP - Ralph Krueger did not deliver this. Regarding the PROTEST - Support for this is waning and if we get in 2 or 3 new Players - the Protest will not go ahead as planned. We must strengthen at CB and additional Number 1 Keeper as a minimum. The RELEGATION Odds are falling as punters put money on the Southampton Drop. We have posted at length how we got to this point from a very strong position in the League. What happens next is VITAL. GET BEHIND THE MANAGER AND THE PLAYERS. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]How about rule 2 being no use of gratuitous and unnecessary profanities?[/p][/quote]CHANGING SUBJECT RADICALLY ... You are now getting in to Forum Rules - it has been posted by others before now... THIS IS A FOOTBALL FORUM where passionate Fans say their bit - whether good or bad or whether they change their minds two minutes later. This Forum is run by DAILY ECHO that welcomes frank interchange of views- it is not run by the Local Vicar for the Village Magazine. TRY the Saints Forum - Ugly Inside - etc if you want a different Product. THE FOCUS is not on the Forum and what one Fan or another may or may not have posted ... THE FOCUS IS THE START OF THE FOOTBALL SEASON. LET'S GET THE PLAYERS IN and give KING RON a FIGHTING CHANCE. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]well if you want a forum where you can swear to your hearts content then visit any of the many facebook forums. as it is this is an non-age restricted forum where fans come to express their opinions within the rules set out by the echo. those rules state that you are not allowed to post anything abusive. most of us are adults but there will be children who visit the site, mostly from poopey. as adults we should all be able to put our point across without the need for abusive language. don't get me wrong I`m no prude and can swear like a poopey whore on benefits day. however I am still able to restrict the use of abusive language when children are present. as you said this site is run by the daily echo and yes they do welcome the frank exchange of views, however they also set the site rules and if you are unable to post within those rules they will remove you from their site. not having a go at anyone by the way because the negs, wums and normal fans all break the rules. my feeling is that if it continues the echo may be forced to employ a moderator to run the forums as the news site has done. last time I looked on their, and it was a while ago, lots of posts get removed and it becomes difficult to get a coherent idea of what they are talking about, well more difficult than it normally is![/p][/quote]In 100% agreement with youDe Heiligen. I have two grandsons (both saints season ticket holders) aged 10 and 12 who come onto this forum daily,especially in recent times,as they are as concerned as we all are to what is going on at our beloved Saints,and I find some of the abusive language totally unacceptable and I personally don't want my grandsons reading such filth thank you. As for the abuse thrown at the board because some of the fans don't like what is going on at times,I find pathetic,and as I have said before, most people must have instant gratification,or they start throwing their toys out of the pram. As for the insulting remarks about KL, some of you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves,personall y I would ban you from coming onto this forum. I am all for people expressing their views,that is healthy,but there is a correct way of doing it not calling the owner F** K**,and I'm afraid that some of you think the louder you shout or act in an abusive manner,you will win the argument,wrong.[/p][/quote]Get your point but how are people on here supposed to know how old some of the posters are??? Maybe if there are young kids occasionally posting on here they should in some way let other posters know or their log in names should have a a clear indication that they are not adults ie "Junior" or something after their name. That way other adults who may be a ted more liberal than others would know and no doubt act accordingly. The other option would be for the guardians of the kids to proof read a thread before the let their kids come on here.[/p][/quote]You should be able to make your point without being abusive or using offensive language! End of! It's the Daily Echo, do posters really need to be told there may be youngsters interested in Saints that will read these posts?[/p][/quote]Yes I do as I've already stated some people are a tad more liberal nowadays and I'm afraid swear words are now a part of every day life. All the social network sites are awash with them as are a large number of music vidoes/tracks nowadays and other media outlets. There are even a lot of the words in the dictionary so it's very difficult to shield young kids from exposure. Many if not most football fans are working class men and women and have also been brought up in environments where swearing has been a normal way of life and not seen as such a bad thing by them as it is by others like yourself. Like I said earlier , I get it but the odds against a sterile thread are heavily stacked and many people don't really make such a big thing of it.[/p][/quote]How sad.[/p][/quote].....but true J7junctionseven
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11:24pm Sat 2 Aug 14

george chivers says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
What on Earth inspired a comment like his from the old boy? I generally respect his opinion but it sounds either like a bit of stirring by the press. or is he having a go at our board? I really don't know.

Frankly a bigger surpise is that Arsenal haven't won the Champions League. They have had some high quality players over the years , not just the ones we sold to them. But still they struggle to win anything and their only achhievement is qualifying for the Champions League..... again and again and again. Yawn... They have an amazing stadium and solid core fan base, yet still they under achieve. Im not having a go here, Im just reflecting that with all their money and long heritage its still very tough to progress and win anything substantial these days.

If we take his comments at face value, he is making a speculative pointt at best. We were very good last season but our final league position was fair based on our results. if we are honest we all know this is true. That team was excellent but I odubt it could have lived with the very big European teams.. lets be realistic.

For Saints the future might one day see us qualify for Champions League, not an easy ambition but still one that is not beyond our capability and certainly not beyond our means. But there is still a gap to be filled.

My view on our team last season was that despite it's brilliant flashes and top class start to the season, it still lacked "factor x". We had amazing team spirit - it was worth an extra man in some games - but we lacked one or two players that would have elevated the team to something sublime.

Champions League teams do not lose matches like the ones we slipped up in. A CL team is consistent throughout a season, we were brilliant until the Arsenal away game and then it collapsed rapidly. We regrouped OK but in the end our final position was about right.. we were not a "top four team" .... but we were on the right path.

We are still on the right path though. We have the right manager, we still have a solid core of excellent players with some new some new signings and more youth discoveries still on the way .. I still think we should make top half if everyone lives up to their billing.

The board needs to think through its strategy on communication though. A measured and consistent approach is better than bouts of silence followed by platitudes. The fans ar not stupid. The owners need to consder their stance too, some regular supportive poistive messages would change the current mood significantly. Katarina has a personality, we need to understand it better. I think the board is still learning on its feet. Sometimes that is how it has to be.


So thanks Arsene, you have stirred the bees nest, or the press has, whatever .... but the fans are starting to see the reality of the situation and are beginning to recognise that this probably not the start of the apocalypse but the dawn of a new regime. It's not a question of "what might have been".. its a question of "what might be" ...

Long live Ron, king of kings, look on his works, ye Mighty, and despair !!
If Wenger hadn't sold so many of his star players over the years Cole, Nasri, Fabregas, Van Persie, Adeybayour, etc he could have won the Champions League.

Arsenal are in a similar boat to us, but higher up the pecking order. They don't have enough money to pay high enough wages to win top competitions and keep good players (teams) together. But they do have the stadium and the support. That's what keeps them in the top six of the PL and us out of it.

The pot calling the kettle black I would say.
Wenger has in my book played an absolute blinder. The development of their ground was huge, they had to build roads, relocate industrial estates and much more. Far more involved than building on a greenfield site at Hedge End. As a result it cost £400m!

The consequences were they could massively increase revenue streams but obviously carried large debt. Wenger sold players for top dollar and bought wisely meaning they competed but weren't going to win anything. Now that debt is paid down they can really compete and aim to win things.

We could sign loan players and spend all the money from the sales on a new ground accepting that we will not compete for a while and just aim to stay in the Prem in the short term.

But then that would take vision and we've got Ralph.
I believe KL is in charge of vision statements not Ralph.

He's been employed for his North American Market knowledge not his visionary facility. At the moment I don't think we are doing too badly. Much, however, will depend on the quality and quantity of the replacement players. I think next season, only days away, we will probably take a step backwards, before moving forward the following season.

As for a new stadium. I don't buy into that. Our average attendance is just over 30K which means we rarely fill the ground. If we were to build a new stadium in a more accessible location of say 45K, to fill it we would have to increase our home support from 26k to 41k. A jump of 15k, which is about a 60% increase on our current home support. I don't think that is possible except for 2 or 3 games a season. Plus there is the cost of construction which would be, and I am guessing, about 4 times the cost of St Marys which was about a million pounds per 1000 seats. A lot of money to pay pack while, at the same time bringing in the punters and paying premium wages to home grown English players and foreign imports to sustain a mid table plus league position. A dangerous game I think.

I think the solution for regional clubs like ours is to get rid of the big city clubs in to a European Super League, along with all the other European big city clubs and then we can have a top league in the U.K. which is competitive and more or less any club can win it. I would impose high quotas of U.K. born players into squads and limit the number of loan players from the Super league teams which would bring back local identities to clubs and improve the selection base for the national team.

That way we could fill stadiums and make the games attractive to TV companies, advertisers and sponsors.
I have seen nothing to indicate KL is a visionary, why do you thing she is?

I think we would fill an easy access stadium more readily than SMS. If we don't increase capacity then as soon as we rebuild a decent team we will be plundered again. If we catered for walk ups we would fill SMS now for Saturday games, not sure why but Southampton isn't really up for evening games usually.

We have the biggest catchment area of any premier league team. Look at Manchester, double our population yes but has two teams and every single town around it has a professional football club siphoning off some of their potential support - Bolton, Oldham, Bury, Stockport, Blackburn, etc.
I think she is a visionary because of recent events and her vision is short term one. Part of her vision is to maximise the return on her assets so she can minimise her cost base, recoup overspend from Cortese's time and replace the sold assets with cheaper ones that have a lower maintenance costs. e.g wages. and a higher return.

My view is despite what has been said she is here for the short term, say two seasons then she will sell when the business is back to what it was in terms of league position and saleability in terms of profit.

Statements like the club is not for sale. Don't mean the club with never be sold by her, they just mean the club is not currently up for sale. In the way that JRod and Spiderman are not for sale this summer, which doesn't mean they won't be sold in January or next May.

I really don't believe she is going to build an easy access stadium anywhere because that means huge capital expenditure with no guarantee of success and the possibility of huge losses if it goes wrong. Too much of a gamble and the time scale is too long for her and the potential return on the investment is not attractive and indeed may well be negative.

I think we will carry on at St Mary's for many years with or without KL and be a middle of the table club unless the top six break away into a European Super league at some point. We will also continue to sell off young English players at premium prices so big clubs can make there home grown player quotas and we will continue to moan on here about the club's lack of ambition.

I would live to see that change. But for it to happen we need an owner who is crazy about football and crazy about status within football. KL is not that person. Perhaps the next owner will be?
How sad.
But inevitable.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: What on Earth inspired a comment like his from the old boy? I generally respect his opinion but it sounds either like a bit of stirring by the press. or is he having a go at our board? I really don't know. Frankly a bigger surpise is that Arsenal haven't won the Champions League. They have had some high quality players over the years , not just the ones we sold to them. But still they struggle to win anything and their only achhievement is qualifying for the Champions League..... again and again and again. Yawn... They have an amazing stadium and solid core fan base, yet still they under achieve. Im not having a go here, Im just reflecting that with all their money and long heritage its still very tough to progress and win anything substantial these days. If we take his comments at face value, he is making a speculative pointt at best. We were very good last season but our final league position was fair based on our results. if we are honest we all know this is true. That team was excellent but I odubt it could have lived with the very big European teams.. lets be realistic. For Saints the future might one day see us qualify for Champions League, not an easy ambition but still one that is not beyond our capability and certainly not beyond our means. But there is still a gap to be filled. My view on our team last season was that despite it's brilliant flashes and top class start to the season, it still lacked "factor x". We had amazing team spirit - it was worth an extra man in some games - but we lacked one or two players that would have elevated the team to something sublime. Champions League teams do not lose matches like the ones we slipped up in. A CL team is consistent throughout a season, we were brilliant until the Arsenal away game and then it collapsed rapidly. We regrouped OK but in the end our final position was about right.. we were not a "top four team" .... but we were on the right path. We are still on the right path though. We have the right manager, we still have a solid core of excellent players with some new some new signings and more youth discoveries still on the way .. I still think we should make top half if everyone lives up to their billing. The board needs to think through its strategy on communication though. A measured and consistent approach is better than bouts of silence followed by platitudes. The fans ar not stupid. The owners need to consder their stance too, some regular supportive poistive messages would change the current mood significantly. Katarina has a personality, we need to understand it better. I think the board is still learning on its feet. Sometimes that is how it has to be. So thanks Arsene, you have stirred the bees nest, or the press has, whatever .... but the fans are starting to see the reality of the situation and are beginning to recognise that this probably not the start of the apocalypse but the dawn of a new regime. It's not a question of "what might have been".. its a question of "what might be" ... Long live Ron, king of kings, look on his works, ye Mighty, and despair !![/p][/quote]If Wenger hadn't sold so many of his star players over the years Cole, Nasri, Fabregas, Van Persie, Adeybayour, etc he could have won the Champions League. Arsenal are in a similar boat to us, but higher up the pecking order. They don't have enough money to pay high enough wages to win top competitions and keep good players (teams) together. But they do have the stadium and the support. That's what keeps them in the top six of the PL and us out of it. The pot calling the kettle black I would say.[/p][/quote]Wenger has in my book played an absolute blinder. The development of their ground was huge, they had to build roads, relocate industrial estates and much more. Far more involved than building on a greenfield site at Hedge End. As a result it cost £400m! The consequences were they could massively increase revenue streams but obviously carried large debt. Wenger sold players for top dollar and bought wisely meaning they competed but weren't going to win anything. Now that debt is paid down they can really compete and aim to win things. We could sign loan players and spend all the money from the sales on a new ground accepting that we will not compete for a while and just aim to stay in the Prem in the short term. But then that would take vision and we've got Ralph.[/p][/quote]I believe KL is in charge of vision statements not Ralph. He's been employed for his North American Market knowledge not his visionary facility. At the moment I don't think we are doing too badly. Much, however, will depend on the quality and quantity of the replacement players. I think next season, only days away, we will probably take a step backwards, before moving forward the following season. As for a new stadium. I don't buy into that. Our average attendance is just over 30K which means we rarely fill the ground. If we were to build a new stadium in a more accessible location of say 45K, to fill it we would have to increase our home support from 26k to 41k. A jump of 15k, which is about a 60% increase on our current home support. I don't think that is possible except for 2 or 3 games a season. Plus there is the cost of construction which would be, and I am guessing, about 4 times the cost of St Marys which was about a million pounds per 1000 seats. A lot of money to pay pack while, at the same time bringing in the punters and paying premium wages to home grown English players and foreign imports to sustain a mid table plus league position. A dangerous game I think. I think the solution for regional clubs like ours is to get rid of the big city clubs in to a European Super League, along with all the other European big city clubs and then we can have a top league in the U.K. which is competitive and more or less any club can win it. I would impose high quotas of U.K. born players into squads and limit the number of loan players from the Super league teams which would bring back local identities to clubs and improve the selection base for the national team. That way we could fill stadiums and make the games attractive to TV companies, advertisers and sponsors.[/p][/quote]I have seen nothing to indicate KL is a visionary, why do you thing she is? I think we would fill an easy access stadium more readily than SMS. If we don't increase capacity then as soon as we rebuild a decent team we will be plundered again. If we catered for walk ups we would fill SMS now for Saturday games, not sure why but Southampton isn't really up for evening games usually. We have the biggest catchment area of any premier league team. Look at Manchester, double our population yes but has two teams and every single town around it has a professional football club siphoning off some of their potential support - Bolton, Oldham, Bury, Stockport, Blackburn, etc.[/p][/quote]I think she is a visionary because of recent events and her vision is short term one. Part of her vision is to maximise the return on her assets so she can minimise her cost base, recoup overspend from Cortese's time and replace the sold assets with cheaper ones that have a lower maintenance costs. e.g wages. and a higher return. My view is despite what has been said she is here for the short term, say two seasons then she will sell when the business is back to what it was in terms of league position and saleability in terms of profit. Statements like the club is not for sale. Don't mean the club with never be sold by her, they just mean the club is not currently up for sale. In the way that JRod and Spiderman are not for sale this summer, which doesn't mean they won't be sold in January or next May. I really don't believe she is going to build an easy access stadium anywhere because that means huge capital expenditure with no guarantee of success and the possibility of huge losses if it goes wrong. Too much of a gamble and the time scale is too long for her and the potential return on the investment is not attractive and indeed may well be negative. I think we will carry on at St Mary's for many years with or without KL and be a middle of the table club unless the top six break away into a European Super league at some point. We will also continue to sell off young English players at premium prices so big clubs can make there home grown player quotas and we will continue to moan on here about the club's lack of ambition. I would live to see that change. But for it to happen we need an owner who is crazy about football and crazy about status within football. KL is not that person. Perhaps the next owner will be?[/p][/quote]How sad.[/p][/quote]But inevitable. george chivers
  • Score: 0

11:32pm Sat 2 Aug 14

vidman says...

A different view of things

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/football/28
593032
A different view of things http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/28 593032 vidman
  • Score: 1

11:51pm Sat 2 Aug 14

George4th says...

vidman wrote:
A different view of things

http://www.bbc.co.uk

/sport/0/football/28

593032
You beat me to it! I had just read it on the BBC website!

It confirms that Cortese was the key to the domino affect - he was the glue holding the whole place together - he left and everyone is following.

Cortese was the best thing that ever happened to Saints FC,

The current debacle is down to the decisions made by the owners........Howeve
r, from a business point of view, Liebherrs cannot lose even if Saints get relegated.

The owners see it from a business point of view while the Saints supporters see it from a football point of view - each can be million miles away from the other...............
.......
[quote][p][bold]vidman[/bold] wrote: A different view of things http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/28 593032[/p][/quote]You beat me to it! I had just read it on the BBC website! It confirms that Cortese was the key to the domino affect - he was the glue holding the whole place together - he left and everyone is following. Cortese was the best thing that ever happened to Saints FC, The current debacle is down to the decisions made by the owners........Howeve r, from a business point of view, Liebherrs cannot lose even if Saints get relegated. The owners see it from a business point of view while the Saints supporters see it from a football point of view - each can be million miles away from the other............... ....... George4th
  • Score: -4

12:49am Sun 3 Aug 14

owen thesaints... says...

the swinging arm of channon wrote:
Perhaps we’ll see that team together sometime for a testimonial – oh no, hang on, no player stays ten minutes nowadays let alone ten seasons, so perhaps we won’t.
Sorry this has nothing to do with the article in question, but I love your sign in name "The swinging arm of Channon"... when I was a teenager watching Channon was a pure joy, he was such a brilliant player for our club and not remembered as much as I think he should be, Southampton legend to the max! Watching him running down the wing in front of the crowd "windmilling" his arm after scoring another blinding goal is a memory that will last a lifetime.
Just thought I would share that!
COYR!!!!
[quote][p][bold]the swinging arm of channon[/bold] wrote: Perhaps we’ll see that team together sometime for a testimonial – oh no, hang on, no player stays ten minutes nowadays let alone ten seasons, so perhaps we won’t.[/p][/quote]Sorry this has nothing to do with the article in question, but I love your sign in name "The swinging arm of Channon"... when I was a teenager watching Channon was a pure joy, he was such a brilliant player for our club and not remembered as much as I think he should be, Southampton legend to the max! Watching him running down the wing in front of the crowd "windmilling" his arm after scoring another blinding goal is a memory that will last a lifetime. Just thought I would share that! COYR!!!! owen thesaints...
  • Score: 3

5:31am Sun 3 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=y9f7k9DC
nuY
https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=y9f7k9DC nuY KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 1

6:16am Sun 3 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
https://www.youtube.

com/watch?v=y9f7k9DC

nuY
Sorry this link should work.... Funny clip!

https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=y9f7k9DC
nuY
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=y9f7k9DC nuY[/p][/quote]Sorry this link should work.... Funny clip! https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=y9f7k9DC nuY KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 0

7:27am Sun 3 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Shock.,horror! Rickie Lambert missing a penalty????.......Mu
st be playing for someone else.....lol!
Sturridge sent home for treatment on hamstring injury......hope it's serious enough to keep him for a least 3 weeks..:o)
Arse -ne Wenger telling the media that Arsenal have a core of English players whilst raving about Callum Chambers and that he'd provide us with a decent England team......3 of them are ex-Saints Mr Wenger!
More shock horror....We still haven't confirmed that we've signed anyone new.
Shock.,horror! Rickie Lambert missing a penalty????.......Mu st be playing for someone else.....lol! Sturridge sent home for treatment on hamstring injury......hope it's serious enough to keep him for a least 3 weeks..:o) Arse -ne Wenger telling the media that Arsenal have a core of English players whilst raving about Callum Chambers and that he'd provide us with a decent England team......3 of them are ex-Saints Mr Wenger! More shock horror....We still haven't confirmed that we've signed anyone new. J7junctionseven
  • Score: 3

7:42am Sun 3 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
https://www.youtube.


com/watch?v=y9f7k9DC


nuY
Sorry this link should work.... Funny clip!

https://www.youtube.

com/watch?v=y9f7k9DC

nuY
LOL!
Seen a few of these with different story lines but this one is up there with the best ones.....Like the peanut brain Merson reference and "Don't worry at least we're not Pompey"......and "Is Rodriguez still locked in the basement"....hilario
us
Cheers for that
COYR FOADP
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=y9f7k9DC nuY[/p][/quote]Sorry this link should work.... Funny clip! https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=y9f7k9DC nuY[/p][/quote]LOL! Seen a few of these with different story lines but this one is up there with the best ones.....Like the peanut brain Merson reference and "Don't worry at least we're not Pompey"......and "Is Rodriguez still locked in the basement"....hilario us Cheers for that COYR FOADP J7junctionseven
  • Score: 4

8:15am Sun 3 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
https://www.youtube.



com/watch?v=y9f7k9DC



nuY
Sorry this link should work.... Funny clip!

https://www.youtube.


com/watch?v=y9f7k9DC


nuY
LOL!
Seen a few of these with different story lines but this one is up there with the best ones.....Like the peanut brain Merson reference and "Don't worry at least we're not Pompey"......and "Is Rodriguez still locked in the basement"....hilario

us
Cheers for that
COYR FOADP
Yeah sorry about the spaces in the link lol, Le Tissier will rise again!
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=y9f7k9DC nuY[/p][/quote]Sorry this link should work.... Funny clip! https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=y9f7k9DC nuY[/p][/quote]LOL! Seen a few of these with different story lines but this one is up there with the best ones.....Like the peanut brain Merson reference and "Don't worry at least we're not Pompey"......and "Is Rodriguez still locked in the basement"....hilario us Cheers for that COYR FOADP[/p][/quote]Yeah sorry about the spaces in the link lol, Le Tissier will rise again! KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 0

8:41am Sun 3 Aug 14

Stnana says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Shock.,horror! Rickie Lambert missing a penalty????.......Mu

st be playing for someone else.....lol!
Sturridge sent home for treatment on hamstring injury......hope it's serious enough to keep him for a least 3 weeks..:o)
Arse -ne Wenger telling the media that Arsenal have a core of English players whilst raving about Callum Chambers and that he'd provide us with a decent England team......3 of them are ex-Saints Mr Wenger!
More shock horror....We still haven't confirmed that we've signed anyone new.
One's out for 6 weeks injured, second can't get a visa and Rickie misses a penalty, Karma !
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Shock.,horror! Rickie Lambert missing a penalty????.......Mu st be playing for someone else.....lol! Sturridge sent home for treatment on hamstring injury......hope it's serious enough to keep him for a least 3 weeks..:o) Arse -ne Wenger telling the media that Arsenal have a core of English players whilst raving about Callum Chambers and that he'd provide us with a decent England team......3 of them are ex-Saints Mr Wenger! More shock horror....We still haven't confirmed that we've signed anyone new.[/p][/quote]One's out for 6 weeks injured, second can't get a visa and Rickie misses a penalty, Karma ! Stnana
  • Score: 5

9:19am Sun 3 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Stnana wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Shock.,horror! Rickie Lambert missing a penalty????.......Mu


st be playing for someone else.....lol!
Sturridge sent home for treatment on hamstring injury......hope it's serious enough to keep him for a least 3 weeks..:o)
Arse -ne Wenger telling the media that Arsenal have a core of English players whilst raving about Callum Chambers and that he'd provide us with a decent England team......3 of them are ex-Saints Mr Wenger!
More shock horror....We still haven't confirmed that we've signed anyone new.
One's out for 6 weeks injured, second can't get a visa and Rickie misses a penalty, Karma !
Seems like it.
RL missing penalties is a new one on us........just imagine if he does it again and against us ?????.......No pressure Rickie but maybe, just maybe, it was wearing our colours that brought him the luck in the past. Now he may be trying to hard to get off the mark with liverhampton and it'll be playing on his mind..
Happy days
COYR FOADP
[quote][p][bold]Stnana[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Shock.,horror! Rickie Lambert missing a penalty????.......Mu st be playing for someone else.....lol! Sturridge sent home for treatment on hamstring injury......hope it's serious enough to keep him for a least 3 weeks..:o) Arse -ne Wenger telling the media that Arsenal have a core of English players whilst raving about Callum Chambers and that he'd provide us with a decent England team......3 of them are ex-Saints Mr Wenger! More shock horror....We still haven't confirmed that we've signed anyone new.[/p][/quote]One's out for 6 weeks injured, second can't get a visa and Rickie misses a penalty, Karma ![/p][/quote]Seems like it. RL missing penalties is a new one on us........just imagine if he does it again and against us ?????.......No pressure Rickie but maybe, just maybe, it was wearing our colours that brought him the luck in the past. Now he may be trying to hard to get off the mark with liverhampton and it'll be playing on his mind.. Happy days COYR FOADP J7junctionseven
  • Score: 5

10:19am Sun 3 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Stnana wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Shock.,horror! Rickie Lambert missing a penalty????.......Mu



st be playing for someone else.....lol!
Sturridge sent home for treatment on hamstring injury......hope it's serious enough to keep him for a least 3 weeks..:o)
Arse -ne Wenger telling the media that Arsenal have a core of English players whilst raving about Callum Chambers and that he'd provide us with a decent England team......3 of them are ex-Saints Mr Wenger!
More shock horror....We still haven't confirmed that we've signed anyone new.
One's out for 6 weeks injured, second can't get a visa and Rickie misses a penalty, Karma !
Seems like it.
RL missing penalties is a new one on us........just imagine if he does it again and against us ?????.......No pressure Rickie but maybe, just maybe, it was wearing our colours that brought him the luck in the past. Now he may be trying to hard to get off the mark with liverhampton and it'll be playing on his mind..
Happy days
COYR FOADP
LAMBERT - You never MISSED for us -You never MISSED for us

Lambert's missing penalties NOW - gotta LOL ;O)

All these Players that move on to other Clubs are Rivals - especially when the golden rule of Transfers is broken and they move to a Top Ten side.

BUT the Board's priorities and the Fans have been shown to be poles apart - and they have shown a recent run of incompetence - bringing the Club to crisis - which we are not out of yet

As a rival - even if we give him a clap - it would be GOOD to unsettle his play with a chant about his penalty miss,

COME ON SLOW COACH BOARD - You were in such a rush to sell - especially the haste with the Rickie transfer - WITHOUT A RECOVERY PLAN.

COYR+WS

COYR+WS
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stnana[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Shock.,horror! Rickie Lambert missing a penalty????.......Mu st be playing for someone else.....lol! Sturridge sent home for treatment on hamstring injury......hope it's serious enough to keep him for a least 3 weeks..:o) Arse -ne Wenger telling the media that Arsenal have a core of English players whilst raving about Callum Chambers and that he'd provide us with a decent England team......3 of them are ex-Saints Mr Wenger! More shock horror....We still haven't confirmed that we've signed anyone new.[/p][/quote]One's out for 6 weeks injured, second can't get a visa and Rickie misses a penalty, Karma ![/p][/quote]Seems like it. RL missing penalties is a new one on us........just imagine if he does it again and against us ?????.......No pressure Rickie but maybe, just maybe, it was wearing our colours that brought him the luck in the past. Now he may be trying to hard to get off the mark with liverhampton and it'll be playing on his mind.. Happy days COYR FOADP[/p][/quote]LAMBERT - You never MISSED for us -You never MISSED for us Lambert's missing penalties NOW - gotta LOL ;O) All these Players that move on to other Clubs are Rivals - especially when the golden rule of Transfers is broken and they move to a Top Ten side. BUT the Board's priorities and the Fans have been shown to be poles apart - and they have shown a recent run of incompetence - bringing the Club to crisis - which we are not out of yet As a rival - even if we give him a clap - it would be GOOD to unsettle his play with a chant about his penalty miss, COME ON SLOW COACH BOARD - You were in such a rush to sell - especially the haste with the Rickie transfer - WITHOUT A RECOVERY PLAN. COYR+WS COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 4

10:23am Sun 3 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

George4th wrote:
vidman wrote:
A different view of things

http://www.bbc.co.uk


/sport/0/football/28


593032
You beat me to it! I had just read it on the BBC website!

It confirms that Cortese was the key to the domino affect - he was the glue holding the whole place together - he left and everyone is following.

Cortese was the best thing that ever happened to Saints FC,

The current debacle is down to the decisions made by the owners........Howeve

r, from a business point of view, Liebherrs cannot lose even if Saints get relegated.

The owners see it from a business point of view while the Saints supporters see it from a football point of view - each can be million miles away from the other...............

.......
The truth that has been staring us in the face right from the time he left,not difficult to deduce,and hardly a revelation,but a lot of posters have been unfairly shot down for daring to say it.
[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vidman[/bold] wrote: A different view of things http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/28 593032[/p][/quote]You beat me to it! I had just read it on the BBC website! It confirms that Cortese was the key to the domino affect - he was the glue holding the whole place together - he left and everyone is following. Cortese was the best thing that ever happened to Saints FC, The current debacle is down to the decisions made by the owners........Howeve r, from a business point of view, Liebherrs cannot lose even if Saints get relegated. The owners see it from a business point of view while the Saints supporters see it from a football point of view - each can be million miles away from the other............... .......[/p][/quote]The truth that has been staring us in the face right from the time he left,not difficult to deduce,and hardly a revelation,but a lot of posters have been unfairly shot down for daring to say it. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 5

10:28am Sun 3 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Positively4thStreet wr