RUMOUR MILL, July 18 - QPR close to landing Cardiff defender Caulker

Basingstoke Gazette: Steven Caulker in action at St Mary's for Cardiff last season Steven Caulker in action at St Mary's for Cardiff last season

QPR have agreed a fee with Cardiff for reported Saints target Steven Caulker.

The centre half is also believed to be interesting Liverpool – whose No 1 defensive target is Saints’ Dejan Lovren – and Crystal Palace.

But QPR boss Harry Redknapp is hoping the fact that he has signed Rio Ferdinand will persuade Caulker to return to London.

The 22-year had previously worked alongside Redknapp at Tottenham.

“We've agreed a fee for Steven Caulker, who I like very much,” revealed ex-Saints boss Redknapp.

“I had him at Tottenham as a player and he's done very well. I think for him to come and play with Rio would be a great experience for him.

“I'm looking to play with three central defenders this year. So (there are) those two and then I've got Richard Dunne, Nedum Onuoha, Clint Hill, I've got real good defenders here.”

“For Steven Caulker to come in and be part of it with those experienced players will be great for him.

“Rio will be a big influence on him. For Steven it will be the best education he could ever have in his life to play with Rio."

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8:26am Fri 18 Jul 14

adams74 says...

no1 here cares what you do redknob you total f***ing P***k ok so DE stop reporting on other twatty managers and stick to actually REPORTING on Saints!!!!!!!
no1 here cares what you do redknob you total f***ing P***k ok so DE stop reporting on other twatty managers and stick to actually REPORTING on Saints!!!!!!! adams74
  • Score: 29

8:28am Fri 18 Jul 14

Sammy2sheds says...

This is who we should be trying to sign but no action from us.wheres all the millions? Offering 3million for Redmond.what a joke.lets go and buy a cheap foreign mercenarie,don't worry les is already onto it.
This is who we should be trying to sign but no action from us.wheres all the millions? Offering 3million for Redmond.what a joke.lets go and buy a cheap foreign mercenarie,don't worry les is already onto it. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: -7

8:35am Fri 18 Jul 14

Buddy SFC says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
This is who we should be trying to sign but no action from us.wheres all the millions? Offering 3million for Redmond.what a joke.lets go and buy a cheap foreign mercenarie,don't worry les is already onto it.
What and have a club £177 million in debt like Rebnobs, whilst they offer average players like Calker £100 k a week ......... The next P'muff !!

No thanks run our club properly and have a future thanks you !!!!
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: This is who we should be trying to sign but no action from us.wheres all the millions? Offering 3million for Redmond.what a joke.lets go and buy a cheap foreign mercenarie,don't worry les is already onto it.[/p][/quote]What and have a club £177 million in debt like Rebnobs, whilst they offer average players like Calker £100 k a week ......... The next P'muff !! No thanks run our club properly and have a future thanks you !!!! Buddy SFC
  • Score: 84

8:45am Fri 18 Jul 14

saintbobby says...

Don't know if Saints were interested in Caulker as much as this list was , but London and a big wage packet seem to be the reason.

Saints will not pay silly wages as it is would cause unrest, but should offer realistic bids for identified players. The reported bid for Redmond was obviously not going to be accepted and just tells everyone that we were interested. Not clever.

We don't even know if we made a bid for Caulker. And what about Marshall and other players mentioned. Time is moving on and we would like to see Saints do the same.
Don't know if Saints were interested in Caulker as much as this list was , but London and a big wage packet seem to be the reason. Saints will not pay silly wages as it is would cause unrest, but should offer realistic bids for identified players. The reported bid for Redmond was obviously not going to be accepted and just tells everyone that we were interested. Not clever. We don't even know if we made a bid for Caulker. And what about Marshall and other players mentioned. Time is moving on and we would like to see Saints do the same. saintbobby
  • Score: 21

8:57am Fri 18 Jul 14

milton road says...

So much paper talk Lovren is meant to be going so Saints must surely be interested in Caulker let us make a news story. I would in truth like to think Saints were a little more adventurous than that.
Its awkward for Koeman he needs to see how friendlies go and how things settle to identify weaknesses, what Poch saw as a weakness Koeman may not. We need a left back but do we need two? He still has around 50 mil to spend am sure it will be spent as he identifies who he wants and the wage structure will have to change Lallana and Shaw have shown us that.
So much paper talk Lovren is meant to be going so Saints must surely be interested in Caulker let us make a news story. I would in truth like to think Saints were a little more adventurous than that. Its awkward for Koeman he needs to see how friendlies go and how things settle to identify weaknesses, what Poch saw as a weakness Koeman may not. We need a left back but do we need two? He still has around 50 mil to spend am sure it will be spent as he identifies who he wants and the wage structure will have to change Lallana and Shaw have shown us that. milton road
  • Score: 24

9:09am Fri 18 Jul 14

andysaints007 says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
This is who we should be trying to sign but no action from us.wheres all the millions? Offering 3million for Redmond.what a joke.lets go and buy a cheap foreign mercenarie,don't worry les is already onto it.
PRATT
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: This is who we should be trying to sign but no action from us.wheres all the millions? Offering 3million for Redmond.what a joke.lets go and buy a cheap foreign mercenarie,don't worry les is already onto it.[/p][/quote]PRATT andysaints007
  • Score: 25

9:12am Fri 18 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

When Sky increased their money to the Prem and BT came in the sad and obvious thing happened that always happens - transfer fees and wages simply went up. We have benefited in the ones we have sold going for big money but Les doesn't seem to have grasped it when purchasing.

The two signings todate were targets of Ron's playing in the Dutch league. None of the targets identified by the club, and talked about by Les, who were super keen to come here have in fact arrived. When it was first announced that we were after Caulker and then QPR arrived on the season I instantly feared we would lose out. Much has been posted about not being able to compete with big teams with big revenue, but we are bigger than QPR yet still lose.
When Sky increased their money to the Prem and BT came in the sad and obvious thing happened that always happens - transfer fees and wages simply went up. We have benefited in the ones we have sold going for big money but Les doesn't seem to have grasped it when purchasing. The two signings todate were targets of Ron's playing in the Dutch league. None of the targets identified by the club, and talked about by Les, who were super keen to come here have in fact arrived. When it was first announced that we were after Caulker and then QPR arrived on the season I instantly feared we would lose out. Much has been posted about not being able to compete with big teams with big revenue, but we are bigger than QPR yet still lose. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 15

9:30am Fri 18 Jul 14

SodburySaint93 says...

I wonder why the 2nd "big team" friendly was cancelled and we went to play 2 teams of part-timers in Belgium/Holland.

Could we not find anyone to play us ? or Did Ron want to be close to Eriedivisie players who he may want to sign (maybe doing quiet business outside of the glare of the British media) ?
I wonder why the 2nd "big team" friendly was cancelled and we went to play 2 teams of part-timers in Belgium/Holland. Could we not find anyone to play us ? or Did Ron want to be close to Eriedivisie players who he may want to sign (maybe doing quiet business outside of the glare of the British media) ? SodburySaint93
  • Score: -3

9:34am Fri 18 Jul 14

saintbobby says...

The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London.
Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.
The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London. Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's. saintbobby
  • Score: 19

9:37am Fri 18 Jul 14

Sammy2sheds says...

Buddy SFC wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
This is who we should be trying to sign but no action from us.wheres all the millions? Offering 3million for Redmond.what a joke.lets go and buy a cheap foreign mercenarie,don't worry les is already onto it.
What and have a club £177 million in debt like Rebnobs, whilst they offer average players like Calker £100 k a week ......... The next P'muff !!

No thanks run our club properly and have a future thanks you !!!!
Suddenly everyone's an accountant and very concerned we don't spend kats money.didnt hear anyone mention it when we were flying high buying world class players.theres a difference between prudence and lack of ambition.if we are only prepared to pay certain prices then we can only bid for players that fall into that price range.i believe we are looking at the bottom to middle range player.i am all for integration of youth but our squad is way to young.too many untested young players who need to be drip fed into the team and not overplayed or destroyed by a hammering.ever banega was mentioned again and his signing would show ambition,he is quality.i just believe that saints are shopping with the small change from all of the money.
Where's Ralph?
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: This is who we should be trying to sign but no action from us.wheres all the millions? Offering 3million for Redmond.what a joke.lets go and buy a cheap foreign mercenarie,don't worry les is already onto it.[/p][/quote]What and have a club £177 million in debt like Rebnobs, whilst they offer average players like Calker £100 k a week ......... The next P'muff !! No thanks run our club properly and have a future thanks you !!!![/p][/quote]Suddenly everyone's an accountant and very concerned we don't spend kats money.didnt hear anyone mention it when we were flying high buying world class players.theres a difference between prudence and lack of ambition.if we are only prepared to pay certain prices then we can only bid for players that fall into that price range.i believe we are looking at the bottom to middle range player.i am all for integration of youth but our squad is way to young.too many untested young players who need to be drip fed into the team and not overplayed or destroyed by a hammering.ever banega was mentioned again and his signing would show ambition,he is quality.i just believe that saints are shopping with the small change from all of the money. Where's Ralph? Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 11

9:38am Fri 18 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

saintbobby wrote:
The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London.
Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.
Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle.

For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London. Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.[/p][/quote]Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle. For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -3

9:42am Fri 18 Jul 14

Jesus_02 says...

Im confused really, are we going for better than Caulker or just cheaper?

I am begining to get concerned about the wages that we refuse to pay. We seem willing to fork out 10m on a player and pay him 60k a week but not the same net amount over the course of a contract. It looks like we are going back to being over cautious (something that is extreamly dangerous in itself)
Im confused really, are we going for better than Caulker or just cheaper? I am begining to get concerned about the wages that we refuse to pay. We seem willing to fork out 10m on a player and pay him 60k a week but not the same net amount over the course of a contract. It looks like we are going back to being over cautious (something that is extreamly dangerous in itself) Jesus_02
  • Score: -1

9:47am Fri 18 Jul 14

echo1948 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London.
Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.
Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle.

For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?
We aren,t going to buy anyone else.Wake up. The "so-called" money to spend is in Katherina,s bank account and is likely to stay there.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London. Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.[/p][/quote]Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle. For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?[/p][/quote]We aren,t going to buy anyone else.Wake up. The "so-called" money to spend is in Katherina,s bank account and is likely to stay there. echo1948
  • Score: -58

9:47am Fri 18 Jul 14

echo1948 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London.
Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.
Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle.

For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?
We aren,t going to buy anyone else.Wake up. The "so-called" money to spend is in Katherina,s bank account and is likely to stay there.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London. Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.[/p][/quote]Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle. For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?[/p][/quote]We aren,t going to buy anyone else.Wake up. The "so-called" money to spend is in Katherina,s bank account and is likely to stay there. echo1948
  • Score: -78

10:05am Fri 18 Jul 14

bathsaints says...

Caulker would have been a good buy, premier league experience and potential england centre back longer term. It is frustrating to go another day with no transfer news. I want to believe that there will be more incomings as we need some experience alongside the great youth coming through. I am sure Big Ron wouldn't have signed on the dotted line if he wasnt able to bring some of his own players in but whilst we seemingly dilly dally other teams around us (West Ham, Stoke, Newcastle et al) are doing what looks like good business. There are some good players out there and we have a lot to offer them. Saying all that it is about quality and not quantity but the closer we get to the start of the season the more frustrating it becomes (esp if we do lose lovren, morgan and gaston)...still on the plus side we do seem to have some great potential amongst the young players being given a chance and I hope they can shine this year too. COYR
Caulker would have been a good buy, premier league experience and potential england centre back longer term. It is frustrating to go another day with no transfer news. I want to believe that there will be more incomings as we need some experience alongside the great youth coming through. I am sure Big Ron wouldn't have signed on the dotted line if he wasnt able to bring some of his own players in but whilst we seemingly dilly dally other teams around us (West Ham, Stoke, Newcastle et al) are doing what looks like good business. There are some good players out there and we have a lot to offer them. Saying all that it is about quality and not quantity but the closer we get to the start of the season the more frustrating it becomes (esp if we do lose lovren, morgan and gaston)...still on the plus side we do seem to have some great potential amongst the young players being given a chance and I hope they can shine this year too. COYR bathsaints
  • Score: 5

10:25am Fri 18 Jul 14

montecristosaint says...

I am so sick of the spiel we have had from Les Reed in particular, telling us we are not a selling club, that any money realized will be pumped back in to the squad.
So where are they Mr Reed, these new players you keep telling us are being tracked because of extensive research by your scouting department, or is this yet more copious eye wash to deceive Saints fans that Miss Liebherr is going to do right by the club. I know different. She is busy cashing in and we will be lucky to see more than one or two inferior signings in the door. Mr Reed, you cant even tie down Jack Cork or Rodriguez, probably because they realize that the present regime has precious little ambition. It just makes me furious that the powers that be at Southampton are using sound bites to keep innocent fans happy, because they are more than happy to believe anything that the club tells them. I wonder if they will be so happy when we end up fighting a losing battle against relegation because of Liebherr s folly. I am sorry to be so pessimistic, but I have been saying for months that Liebherr is intent on asset stripping and so far I have been proved right. Saints cant even claim that the two players that have come in are the result of their own work, they have come because of Koeman.
I am so sick of the spiel we have had from Les Reed in particular, telling us we are not a selling club, that any money realized will be pumped back in to the squad. So where are they Mr Reed, these new players you keep telling us are being tracked because of extensive research by your scouting department, or is this yet more copious eye wash to deceive Saints fans that Miss Liebherr is going to do right by the club. I know different. She is busy cashing in and we will be lucky to see more than one or two inferior signings in the door. Mr Reed, you cant even tie down Jack Cork or Rodriguez, probably because they realize that the present regime has precious little ambition. It just makes me furious that the powers that be at Southampton are using sound bites to keep innocent fans happy, because they are more than happy to believe anything that the club tells them. I wonder if they will be so happy when we end up fighting a losing battle against relegation because of Liebherr s folly. I am sorry to be so pessimistic, but I have been saying for months that Liebherr is intent on asset stripping and so far I have been proved right. Saints cant even claim that the two players that have come in are the result of their own work, they have come because of Koeman. montecristosaint
  • Score: 3

10:28am Fri 18 Jul 14

spratt says...

Unless Ron has got something up his sleeve I am getting worried with the new season nearly upon us. There seems to be an over reliance on our up and coming youngsters but this is not going to get us further up the Premier league and history shows they never stay with us long term anyway. Were we not assured, yes ASSURED that money is there for top class players who according to Les Reed were queing up to come here. So why the "sound of silence" and where is the big talking Kruger who promised so much. And where is the openness we as fans were promised?
Unless Ron has got something up his sleeve I am getting worried with the new season nearly upon us. There seems to be an over reliance on our up and coming youngsters but this is not going to get us further up the Premier league and history shows they never stay with us long term anyway. Were we not assured, yes ASSURED that money is there for top class players who according to Les Reed were queing up to come here. So why the "sound of silence" and where is the big talking Kruger who promised so much. And where is the openness we as fans were promised? spratt
  • Score: 14

10:30am Fri 18 Jul 14

costa gaz says...

Saints are playing a dangerous game atm.

Mediocrity will surely happen if we continue to sell our best players and sign mediocre players on relatively low wages.

Caulker is quality and the fee is very affordable to Saints, but once again our wage policy means we don't sign him.
5th lowest wage payers 2013/14, but finishing 8th surely meant that the players deserved more, but we won't pay.
Sure, in a business sense this is good, but you'll find that normally it will be the bottom 3 wage payers that will go down and the top 4 qualify for the CL.

If we want to play with the big boys, we have to pay like the big boys.
Saints are playing a dangerous game atm. Mediocrity will surely happen if we continue to sell our best players and sign mediocre players on relatively low wages. Caulker is quality and the fee is very affordable to Saints, but once again our wage policy means we don't sign him. 5th lowest wage payers 2013/14, but finishing 8th surely meant that the players deserved more, but we won't pay. Sure, in a business sense this is good, but you'll find that normally it will be the bottom 3 wage payers that will go down and the top 4 qualify for the CL. If we want to play with the big boys, we have to pay like the big boys. costa gaz
  • Score: 23

10:37am Fri 18 Jul 14

willygetaway says...

echo1948 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London.
Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.
Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle.

For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?
We aren,t going to buy anyone else.Wake up. The "so-called" money to spend is in Katherina,s bank account and is likely to stay there.
your so right , the board are pis**** on our heads and telling us its raining.
I DON,T BELIEVE A WORD THIS BOARD HAS SAID
ITS TIME TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP.
and actions speak volumes, wake up People and start asking the question
why have you asset stripped us ?
i love the SAINTS which is WHY i cant stay quite COYR
[quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London. Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.[/p][/quote]Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle. For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?[/p][/quote]We aren,t going to buy anyone else.Wake up. The "so-called" money to spend is in Katherina,s bank account and is likely to stay there.[/p][/quote]your so right , the board are pis**** on our heads and telling us its raining. I DON,T BELIEVE A WORD THIS BOARD HAS SAID ITS TIME TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP. and actions speak volumes, wake up People and start asking the question why have you asset stripped us ? i love the SAINTS which is WHY i cant stay quite COYR willygetaway
  • Score: -29

10:40am Fri 18 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London.
Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.
Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle.

For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?
seed we bid the same amount as qpr and palace but itlooks like caulker is going to choose qpr. nothing to do with the money we bid or reeds `persuasiveness`.
qpr lost £65m in a season, had a £68m wage bill that exceeded their entire turnover, and were £177m in debt.
that's a season in the championship not the prem! that's bound to go up this season with the addition of rio, who will want a huge wage, and others.
we may not pay enough wages but how can we compete with a club that is willing to overspend to that degree. we may have offered caulker a decent enough wage for his age and ability but we all know that redkrapp is just going to offer anything to get the player, he doesn't care where the money comes from or how much debt he runs up.
the prems FFP wont affect qpr as its their owner can pay any fine they may get or will find a way of ploughing money into the club to get round those rules, they wont bother trying to comply with uefa`s ffp rules as they know they wont qualify for Europe this season.
this is what happens when you have an owner who is happy to throw away huge amounts of money and a manager with a history of spending clubs broke.
being a young centre back would you rather pick a team because they are willing to pay a lot more than anyone else or pick a team who pay less money but have a top quality, world class, big name, former centre back as their manager? a manager that you will be able to learn so much from and will probably make you a far better player? well if caulker goes to qpr then there is only one reason why.

on a different note,

" Suddenly everyone's an accountant and very concerned we don't spend kats money. didnt hear anyone mention it when we were flying high buying world class players"

does anyone else know when we were `flying high` and spending `kats money` on `world class players`?
funny she only took over ownership late last year and the only window we could have spent `her` money in was the jan window this year when we didn't spend anything! prior to her taking over the club was held in a trust set up by ST Markus and ran by NC. I`m still struggling though to find any `world class` players we have signed. Osvaldo? no dropped from the Italian squad. Gaston? no. good player but not world class. Big Vic? same as gaston. mayuka? really? J-rod? not yet but possible and he cost less than our bid for caulker! dejan? great player but a world class kn0b. anyone I`ve missed out?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London. Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.[/p][/quote]Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle. For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?[/p][/quote]seed we bid the same amount as qpr and palace but itlooks like caulker is going to choose qpr. nothing to do with the money we bid or reeds `persuasiveness`. qpr lost £65m in a season, had a £68m wage bill that exceeded their entire turnover, and were £177m in debt. that's a season in the championship not the prem! that's bound to go up this season with the addition of rio, who will want a huge wage, and others. we may not pay enough wages but how can we compete with a club that is willing to overspend to that degree. we may have offered caulker a decent enough wage for his age and ability but we all know that redkrapp is just going to offer anything to get the player, he doesn't care where the money comes from or how much debt he runs up. the prems FFP wont affect qpr as its their owner can pay any fine they may get or will find a way of ploughing money into the club to get round those rules, they wont bother trying to comply with uefa`s ffp rules as they know they wont qualify for Europe this season. this is what happens when you have an owner who is happy to throw away huge amounts of money and a manager with a history of spending clubs broke. being a young centre back would you rather pick a team because they are willing to pay a lot more than anyone else or pick a team who pay less money but have a top quality, world class, big name, former centre back as their manager? a manager that you will be able to learn so much from and will probably make you a far better player? well if caulker goes to qpr then there is only one reason why. on a different note, " Suddenly everyone's an accountant and very concerned we don't spend kats money. didnt hear anyone mention it when we were flying high buying world class players" does anyone else know when we were `flying high` and spending `kats money` on `world class players`? funny she only took over ownership late last year and the only window we could have spent `her` money in was the jan window this year when we didn't spend anything! prior to her taking over the club was held in a trust set up by ST Markus and ran by NC. I`m still struggling though to find any `world class` players we have signed. Osvaldo? no dropped from the Italian squad. Gaston? no. good player but not world class. Big Vic? same as gaston. mayuka? really? J-rod? not yet but possible and he cost less than our bid for caulker! dejan? great player but a world class kn0b. anyone I`ve missed out? de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 27

10:47am Fri 18 Jul 14

olddellsaint says...

Don't give a s**t about qpr, what about the Saints news??? are they ever going to buy anymore players or what, rant over. C.O.Y.R's
Don't give a s**t about qpr, what about the Saints news??? are they ever going to buy anymore players or what, rant over. C.O.Y.R's olddellsaint
  • Score: 0

10:53am Fri 18 Jul 14

This is Southampton and we are the Saints says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
This is who we should be trying to sign but no action from us.wheres all the millions? Offering 3million for Redmond.what a joke.lets go and buy a cheap foreign mercenarie,don't worry les is already onto it.
What and have a club £177 million in debt like Rebnobs, whilst they offer average players like Calker £100 k a week ......... The next P'muff !!

No thanks run our club properly and have a future thanks you !!!!
Suddenly everyone's an accountant and very concerned we don't spend kats money.didnt hear anyone mention it when we were flying high buying world class players.theres a difference between prudence and lack of ambition.if we are only prepared to pay certain prices then we can only bid for players that fall into that price range.i believe we are looking at the bottom to middle range player.i am all for integration of youth but our squad is way to young.too many untested young players who need to be drip fed into the team and not overplayed or destroyed by a hammering.ever banega was mentioned again and his signing would show ambition,he is quality.i just believe that saints are shopping with the small change from all of the money.
Where's Ralph?
Why everyone's thumbs downing this post is beyond me? some of you guys need to get your head out of the sand!
The club earned 76m last season for its 8th place plus TV money and 60m on player sales with 3 players out and only 2 in so far and yet to prove themselves in the premier league!
Are squad was lightweight last season and are form show it when we lost key players due to injury!
So over 150m in and 19m spent so far! Mmmmmmmm!
Only time will tell! But clubs around us are doing good business in the transfer market! And we could left behind if we're not careful we're still a man down from last years squad! And I know we've got youth players coming through but need to be brought in slowly! time is ticking and the teams around us are improving? So let's stop all this penny pinching and show some real ambition! And see some of these world class players banging at are door to play for us les!
Then no one will have anything to moan about!
This is Southampton and we are the saints!
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: This is who we should be trying to sign but no action from us.wheres all the millions? Offering 3million for Redmond.what a joke.lets go and buy a cheap foreign mercenarie,don't worry les is already onto it.[/p][/quote]What and have a club £177 million in debt like Rebnobs, whilst they offer average players like Calker £100 k a week ......... The next P'muff !! No thanks run our club properly and have a future thanks you !!!![/p][/quote]Suddenly everyone's an accountant and very concerned we don't spend kats money.didnt hear anyone mention it when we were flying high buying world class players.theres a difference between prudence and lack of ambition.if we are only prepared to pay certain prices then we can only bid for players that fall into that price range.i believe we are looking at the bottom to middle range player.i am all for integration of youth but our squad is way to young.too many untested young players who need to be drip fed into the team and not overplayed or destroyed by a hammering.ever banega was mentioned again and his signing would show ambition,he is quality.i just believe that saints are shopping with the small change from all of the money. Where's Ralph?[/p][/quote]Why everyone's thumbs downing this post is beyond me? some of you guys need to get your head out of the sand! The club earned 76m last season for its 8th place plus TV money and 60m on player sales with 3 players out and only 2 in so far and yet to prove themselves in the premier league! Are squad was lightweight last season and are form show it when we lost key players due to injury! So over 150m in and 19m spent so far! Mmmmmmmm! Only time will tell! But clubs around us are doing good business in the transfer market! And we could left behind if we're not careful we're still a man down from last years squad! And I know we've got youth players coming through but need to be brought in slowly! time is ticking and the teams around us are improving? So let's stop all this penny pinching and show some real ambition! And see some of these world class players banging at are door to play for us les! Then no one will have anything to moan about! This is Southampton and we are the saints! This is Southampton and we are the Saints
  • Score: 2

10:56am Fri 18 Jul 14

jls217 says...

milton road wrote:
So much paper talk Lovren is meant to be going so Saints must surely be interested in Caulker let us make a news story. I would in truth like to think Saints were a little more adventurous than that.
Its awkward for Koeman he needs to see how friendlies go and how things settle to identify weaknesses, what Poch saw as a weakness Koeman may not. We need a left back but do we need two? He still has around 50 mil to spend am sure it will be spent as he identifies who he wants and the wage structure will have to change Lallana and Shaw have shown us that.
He as two Nat Clyne is almost as good down the left as he is down the right.
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: So much paper talk Lovren is meant to be going so Saints must surely be interested in Caulker let us make a news story. I would in truth like to think Saints were a little more adventurous than that. Its awkward for Koeman he needs to see how friendlies go and how things settle to identify weaknesses, what Poch saw as a weakness Koeman may not. We need a left back but do we need two? He still has around 50 mil to spend am sure it will be spent as he identifies who he wants and the wage structure will have to change Lallana and Shaw have shown us that.[/p][/quote]He as two Nat Clyne is almost as good down the left as he is down the right. jls217
  • Score: 11

11:11am Fri 18 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London.
Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.
Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle.

For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?
seed we bid the same amount as qpr and palace but itlooks like caulker is going to choose qpr. nothing to do with the money we bid or reeds `persuasiveness`.
qpr lost £65m in a season, had a £68m wage bill that exceeded their entire turnover, and were £177m in debt.
that's a season in the championship not the prem! that's bound to go up this season with the addition of rio, who will want a huge wage, and others.
we may not pay enough wages but how can we compete with a club that is willing to overspend to that degree. we may have offered caulker a decent enough wage for his age and ability but we all know that redkrapp is just going to offer anything to get the player, he doesn't care where the money comes from or how much debt he runs up.
the prems FFP wont affect qpr as its their owner can pay any fine they may get or will find a way of ploughing money into the club to get round those rules, they wont bother trying to comply with uefa`s ffp rules as they know they wont qualify for Europe this season.
this is what happens when you have an owner who is happy to throw away huge amounts of money and a manager with a history of spending clubs broke.
being a young centre back would you rather pick a team because they are willing to pay a lot more than anyone else or pick a team who pay less money but have a top quality, world class, big name, former centre back as their manager? a manager that you will be able to learn so much from and will probably make you a far better player? well if caulker goes to qpr then there is only one reason why.

on a different note,

" Suddenly everyone's an accountant and very concerned we don't spend kats money. didnt hear anyone mention it when we were flying high buying world class players"

does anyone else know when we were `flying high` and spending `kats money` on `world class players`?
funny she only took over ownership late last year and the only window we could have spent `her` money in was the jan window this year when we didn't spend anything! prior to her taking over the club was held in a trust set up by ST Markus and ran by NC. I`m still struggling though to find any `world class` players we have signed. Osvaldo? no dropped from the Italian squad. Gaston? no. good player but not world class. Big Vic? same as gaston. mayuka? really? J-rod? not yet but possible and he cost less than our bid for caulker! dejan? great player but a world class kn0b. anyone I`ve missed out?
We have to stop making excuses and accept the Premier League as it is and compete in it. Otherwise why are we in it?

I've heard the excuses as to why we can't retain our homegrown talent. I've heard the excuses as to why we can't tempt young talent from elsewhere to come here.

I think we all need to wake up and smell the coffee before it's too late.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London. Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.[/p][/quote]Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle. For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?[/p][/quote]seed we bid the same amount as qpr and palace but itlooks like caulker is going to choose qpr. nothing to do with the money we bid or reeds `persuasiveness`. qpr lost £65m in a season, had a £68m wage bill that exceeded their entire turnover, and were £177m in debt. that's a season in the championship not the prem! that's bound to go up this season with the addition of rio, who will want a huge wage, and others. we may not pay enough wages but how can we compete with a club that is willing to overspend to that degree. we may have offered caulker a decent enough wage for his age and ability but we all know that redkrapp is just going to offer anything to get the player, he doesn't care where the money comes from or how much debt he runs up. the prems FFP wont affect qpr as its their owner can pay any fine they may get or will find a way of ploughing money into the club to get round those rules, they wont bother trying to comply with uefa`s ffp rules as they know they wont qualify for Europe this season. this is what happens when you have an owner who is happy to throw away huge amounts of money and a manager with a history of spending clubs broke. being a young centre back would you rather pick a team because they are willing to pay a lot more than anyone else or pick a team who pay less money but have a top quality, world class, big name, former centre back as their manager? a manager that you will be able to learn so much from and will probably make you a far better player? well if caulker goes to qpr then there is only one reason why. on a different note, " Suddenly everyone's an accountant and very concerned we don't spend kats money. didnt hear anyone mention it when we were flying high buying world class players" does anyone else know when we were `flying high` and spending `kats money` on `world class players`? funny she only took over ownership late last year and the only window we could have spent `her` money in was the jan window this year when we didn't spend anything! prior to her taking over the club was held in a trust set up by ST Markus and ran by NC. I`m still struggling though to find any `world class` players we have signed. Osvaldo? no dropped from the Italian squad. Gaston? no. good player but not world class. Big Vic? same as gaston. mayuka? really? J-rod? not yet but possible and he cost less than our bid for caulker! dejan? great player but a world class kn0b. anyone I`ve missed out?[/p][/quote]We have to stop making excuses and accept the Premier League as it is and compete in it. Otherwise why are we in it? I've heard the excuses as to why we can't retain our homegrown talent. I've heard the excuses as to why we can't tempt young talent from elsewhere to come here. I think we all need to wake up and smell the coffee before it's too late. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 0

11:15am Fri 18 Jul 14

Saints n Winners says...

Unless we start paying higher wages - we will just be shopping in the continental leagues for better deals - but hoping that the foreigners gel fairly quickly to combine with our home grown English lads.

This will keep happening until we run out of home grown talent - or we eventually reach a tipping point where have broken into the top six.

To break into the top six - we need to limit the amount of our quality players we sell every year, and /or organize a swap deals such that when we sell a good player we get a fairly good player back - as our purchasing skills as a club - for mature players just hasn't been that good lately.

If we don't change our policy - we will just end up with loads of OK foreigners - and a new manager every year/every other year.

Unfortunately - at present - we are just seen as a stepping stone club for both players and mangers alike.
Unless we start paying higher wages - we will just be shopping in the continental leagues for better deals - but hoping that the foreigners gel fairly quickly to combine with our home grown English lads. This will keep happening until we run out of home grown talent - or we eventually reach a tipping point where have broken into the top six. To break into the top six - we need to limit the amount of our quality players we sell every year, and /or organize a swap deals such that when we sell a good player we get a fairly good player back - as our purchasing skills as a club - for mature players just hasn't been that good lately. If we don't change our policy - we will just end up with loads of OK foreigners - and a new manager every year/every other year. Unfortunately - at present - we are just seen as a stepping stone club for both players and mangers alike. Saints n Winners
  • Score: 10

11:16am Fri 18 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

jls217 wrote:
milton road wrote:
So much paper talk Lovren is meant to be going so Saints must surely be interested in Caulker let us make a news story. I would in truth like to think Saints were a little more adventurous than that.
Its awkward for Koeman he needs to see how friendlies go and how things settle to identify weaknesses, what Poch saw as a weakness Koeman may not. We need a left back but do we need two? He still has around 50 mil to spend am sure it will be spent as he identifies who he wants and the wage structure will have to change Lallana and Shaw have shown us that.
He as two Nat Clyne is almost as good down the left as he is down the right.
Clyne is brilliant cover for left back and always does a good job there. But he is right footed and will always cut inside so he is only cover for LB in emergency.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: So much paper talk Lovren is meant to be going so Saints must surely be interested in Caulker let us make a news story. I would in truth like to think Saints were a little more adventurous than that. Its awkward for Koeman he needs to see how friendlies go and how things settle to identify weaknesses, what Poch saw as a weakness Koeman may not. We need a left back but do we need two? He still has around 50 mil to spend am sure it will be spent as he identifies who he wants and the wage structure will have to change Lallana and Shaw have shown us that.[/p][/quote]He as two Nat Clyne is almost as good down the left as he is down the right.[/p][/quote]Clyne is brilliant cover for left back and always does a good job there. But he is right footed and will always cut inside so he is only cover for LB in emergency. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 16

11:16am Fri 18 Jul 14

Confucious says...

Mmmm...sounds like the message is "spend, spend, spend or there'll be no tomorrow." or indeed "spend, spend, spend as if there's no tomorrow." Or indeed "spend, spend, spend as if you were Redknap."

And don't forget, if we owe the bank £50m that's our problem. But if we owe the bank £200m that's their problem.
Mmmm...sounds like the message is "spend, spend, spend or there'll be no tomorrow." or indeed "spend, spend, spend as if there's no tomorrow." Or indeed "spend, spend, spend as if you were Redknap." And don't forget, if we owe the bank £50m that's our problem. But if we owe the bank £200m that's their problem. Confucious
  • Score: 27

11:42am Fri 18 Jul 14

the cowman says...

Why do people prejudge. Let's wait until the window closes before we judge the board and manager on who they have brought and sold.
We don't know if we made a bid for Caulker, and if we did whether it was accepted. If we did and it was accepted by Cardiff then Caulker would make up his mind, all players seem to be mercenary now so if QPR offered him silly wages then he would in all probability end up there. Newcastle and West Ham seem to be buying in numbers, but they are all foreign and a gamble and may not necessarily improve their teams. I would rather we buy a few players that improve the team/squad rather "than the buy them all" attitude which some posters advocate. Any players we bring in lets give them a chance, Jay was slated in the early days, but once settled and used to the premiership I am sure we all agree he was a good buy, and if he scored the easy ones which he has a tendency to miss could be a 25 goal a season man.
Why do people prejudge. Let's wait until the window closes before we judge the board and manager on who they have brought and sold. We don't know if we made a bid for Caulker, and if we did whether it was accepted. If we did and it was accepted by Cardiff then Caulker would make up his mind, all players seem to be mercenary now so if QPR offered him silly wages then he would in all probability end up there. Newcastle and West Ham seem to be buying in numbers, but they are all foreign and a gamble and may not necessarily improve their teams. I would rather we buy a few players that improve the team/squad rather "than the buy them all" attitude which some posters advocate. Any players we bring in lets give them a chance, Jay was slated in the early days, but once settled and used to the premiership I am sure we all agree he was a good buy, and if he scored the easy ones which he has a tendency to miss could be a 25 goal a season man. the cowman
  • Score: 18

11:42am Fri 18 Jul 14

Knackers says...

PeggyChaney wrote:
my aunty recently purchased a nearly new gold BMW M6 Convertible by working parttime off of a home computer. view

========>>>
>> x.co/553gA
Was it solid gold? Would have been terrible on fuel.think I might give it a miss.
[quote][p][bold]PeggyChaney[/bold] wrote: my aunty recently purchased a nearly new gold BMW M6 Convertible by working parttime off of a home computer. view ========>>> >> x.co/553gA[/p][/quote]Was it solid gold? Would have been terrible on fuel.think I might give it a miss. Knackers
  • Score: -7

11:53am Fri 18 Jul 14

spratt says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
jls217 wrote:
milton road wrote:
So much paper talk Lovren is meant to be going so Saints must surely be interested in Caulker let us make a news story. I would in truth like to think Saints were a little more adventurous than that.
Its awkward for Koeman he needs to see how friendlies go and how things settle to identify weaknesses, what Poch saw as a weakness Koeman may not. We need a left back but do we need two? He still has around 50 mil to spend am sure it will be spent as he identifies who he wants and the wage structure will have to change Lallana and Shaw have shown us that.
He as two Nat Clyne is almost as good down the left as he is down the right.
Clyne is brilliant cover for left back and always does a good job there. But he is right footed and will always cut inside so he is only cover for LB in emergency.
Just out of interest, and not being awkward, where does the 50M to spend come from? If I recall Les Reed told us months ago that around 100M would be available for new players. Since then Alan and Luke have been sold adding a further approx. 50M which again we were promised would be used to buy new players. . So why are we losing not particularly earth shattering players by offering stupid low figures like 3M? What sort of player is that likely to be? Is it all down to the determination to avoid high wage bills. At the moment "silence is golden" on the transfer front but big Ron seems relaxed enough so perhaps something is happening which we fans are unaware of? Please someone at St Marys say something.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: So much paper talk Lovren is meant to be going so Saints must surely be interested in Caulker let us make a news story. I would in truth like to think Saints were a little more adventurous than that. Its awkward for Koeman he needs to see how friendlies go and how things settle to identify weaknesses, what Poch saw as a weakness Koeman may not. We need a left back but do we need two? He still has around 50 mil to spend am sure it will be spent as he identifies who he wants and the wage structure will have to change Lallana and Shaw have shown us that.[/p][/quote]He as two Nat Clyne is almost as good down the left as he is down the right.[/p][/quote]Clyne is brilliant cover for left back and always does a good job there. But he is right footed and will always cut inside so he is only cover for LB in emergency.[/p][/quote]Just out of interest, and not being awkward, where does the 50M to spend come from? If I recall Les Reed told us months ago that around 100M would be available for new players. Since then Alan and Luke have been sold adding a further approx. 50M which again we were promised would be used to buy new players. . So why are we losing not particularly earth shattering players by offering stupid low figures like 3M? What sort of player is that likely to be? Is it all down to the determination to avoid high wage bills. At the moment "silence is golden" on the transfer front but big Ron seems relaxed enough so perhaps something is happening which we fans are unaware of? Please someone at St Marys say something. spratt
  • Score: 23

11:53am Fri 18 Jul 14

Knackers says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London.
Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.
Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle.

For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?
seed we bid the same amount as qpr and palace but itlooks like caulker is going to choose qpr. nothing to do with the money we bid or reeds `persuasiveness`.
qpr lost £65m in a season, had a £68m wage bill that exceeded their entire turnover, and were £177m in debt.
that's a season in the championship not the prem! that's bound to go up this season with the addition of rio, who will want a huge wage, and others.
we may not pay enough wages but how can we compete with a club that is willing to overspend to that degree. we may have offered caulker a decent enough wage for his age and ability but we all know that redkrapp is just going to offer anything to get the player, he doesn't care where the money comes from or how much debt he runs up.
the prems FFP wont affect qpr as its their owner can pay any fine they may get or will find a way of ploughing money into the club to get round those rules, they wont bother trying to comply with uefa`s ffp rules as they know they wont qualify for Europe this season.
this is what happens when you have an owner who is happy to throw away huge amounts of money and a manager with a history of spending clubs broke.
being a young centre back would you rather pick a team because they are willing to pay a lot more than anyone else or pick a team who pay less money but have a top quality, world class, big name, former centre back as their manager? a manager that you will be able to learn so much from and will probably make you a far better player? well if caulker goes to qpr then there is only one reason why.

on a different note,

" Suddenly everyone's an accountant and very concerned we don't spend kats money. didnt hear anyone mention it when we were flying high buying world class players"

does anyone else know when we were `flying high` and spending `kats money` on `world class players`?
funny she only took over ownership late last year and the only window we could have spent `her` money in was the jan window this year when we didn't spend anything! prior to her taking over the club was held in a trust set up by ST Markus and ran by NC. I`m still struggling though to find any `world class` players we have signed. Osvaldo? no dropped from the Italian squad. Gaston? no. good player but not world class. Big Vic? same as gaston. mayuka? really? J-rod? not yet but possible and he cost less than our bid for caulker! dejan? great player but a world class kn0b. anyone I`ve missed out?
Yes lovren and gaston just played at the WORLD CUP hence WORLD CLASS players.judging by your comment about us not spending kats money you think she is asset stripping? Very negative and undermining.you do not know for sure and here you are spreading discord amongst true saints fans.go on your own site.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London. Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.[/p][/quote]Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle. For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?[/p][/quote]seed we bid the same amount as qpr and palace but itlooks like caulker is going to choose qpr. nothing to do with the money we bid or reeds `persuasiveness`. qpr lost £65m in a season, had a £68m wage bill that exceeded their entire turnover, and were £177m in debt. that's a season in the championship not the prem! that's bound to go up this season with the addition of rio, who will want a huge wage, and others. we may not pay enough wages but how can we compete with a club that is willing to overspend to that degree. we may have offered caulker a decent enough wage for his age and ability but we all know that redkrapp is just going to offer anything to get the player, he doesn't care where the money comes from or how much debt he runs up. the prems FFP wont affect qpr as its their owner can pay any fine they may get or will find a way of ploughing money into the club to get round those rules, they wont bother trying to comply with uefa`s ffp rules as they know they wont qualify for Europe this season. this is what happens when you have an owner who is happy to throw away huge amounts of money and a manager with a history of spending clubs broke. being a young centre back would you rather pick a team because they are willing to pay a lot more than anyone else or pick a team who pay less money but have a top quality, world class, big name, former centre back as their manager? a manager that you will be able to learn so much from and will probably make you a far better player? well if caulker goes to qpr then there is only one reason why. on a different note, " Suddenly everyone's an accountant and very concerned we don't spend kats money. didnt hear anyone mention it when we were flying high buying world class players" does anyone else know when we were `flying high` and spending `kats money` on `world class players`? funny she only took over ownership late last year and the only window we could have spent `her` money in was the jan window this year when we didn't spend anything! prior to her taking over the club was held in a trust set up by ST Markus and ran by NC. I`m still struggling though to find any `world class` players we have signed. Osvaldo? no dropped from the Italian squad. Gaston? no. good player but not world class. Big Vic? same as gaston. mayuka? really? J-rod? not yet but possible and he cost less than our bid for caulker! dejan? great player but a world class kn0b. anyone I`ve missed out?[/p][/quote]Yes lovren and gaston just played at the WORLD CUP hence WORLD CLASS players.judging by your comment about us not spending kats money you think she is asset stripping? Very negative and undermining.you do not know for sure and here you are spreading discord amongst true saints fans.go on your own site. Knackers
  • Score: 13

11:54am Fri 18 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London.
Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.
Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle.

For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?
seed we bid the same amount as qpr and palace but itlooks like caulker is going to choose qpr. nothing to do with the money we bid or reeds `persuasiveness`.
qpr lost £65m in a season, had a £68m wage bill that exceeded their entire turnover, and were £177m in debt.
that's a season in the championship not the prem! that's bound to go up this season with the addition of rio, who will want a huge wage, and others.
we may not pay enough wages but how can we compete with a club that is willing to overspend to that degree. we may have offered caulker a decent enough wage for his age and ability but we all know that redkrapp is just going to offer anything to get the player, he doesn't care where the money comes from or how much debt he runs up.
the prems FFP wont affect qpr as its their owner can pay any fine they may get or will find a way of ploughing money into the club to get round those rules, they wont bother trying to comply with uefa`s ffp rules as they know they wont qualify for Europe this season.
this is what happens when you have an owner who is happy to throw away huge amounts of money and a manager with a history of spending clubs broke.
being a young centre back would you rather pick a team because they are willing to pay a lot more than anyone else or pick a team who pay less money but have a top quality, world class, big name, former centre back as their manager? a manager that you will be able to learn so much from and will probably make you a far better player? well if caulker goes to qpr then there is only one reason why.

on a different note,

" Suddenly everyone's an accountant and very concerned we don't spend kats money. didnt hear anyone mention it when we were flying high buying world class players"

does anyone else know when we were `flying high` and spending `kats money` on `world class players`?
funny she only took over ownership late last year and the only window we could have spent `her` money in was the jan window this year when we didn't spend anything! prior to her taking over the club was held in a trust set up by ST Markus and ran by NC. I`m still struggling though to find any `world class` players we have signed. Osvaldo? no dropped from the Italian squad. Gaston? no. good player but not world class. Big Vic? same as gaston. mayuka? really? J-rod? not yet but possible and he cost less than our bid for caulker! dejan? great player but a world class kn0b. anyone I`ve missed out?
We have to stop making excuses and accept the Premier League as it is and compete in it. Otherwise why are we in it?

I've heard the excuses as to why we can't retain our homegrown talent. I've heard the excuses as to why we can't tempt young talent from elsewhere to come here.

I think we all need to wake up and smell the coffee before it's too late.
seed I`m not giving excuses. I even said we may not pay enough wages. I was however trying to explain that whilst we have bid the same amount for caulker as qpr we just cannot compete with the wages they offer. that's because qpr are willing to spend way more on wages than hey make in a season, that's the way redkrapp does business and it would be suicide to try to outbid them on wages. we almost went out of business once, paid too much in the championship, so do we want to go down that route again? let qpr pay what they want, it wont help them in the long run. if we want to pay more wages we need a bigger stadium. we can afford to pay some players around £75k a week but that would just be a few and maybe we have other players earmarked for those funds. we will have to wait and see.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London. Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.[/p][/quote]Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle. For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?[/p][/quote]seed we bid the same amount as qpr and palace but itlooks like caulker is going to choose qpr. nothing to do with the money we bid or reeds `persuasiveness`. qpr lost £65m in a season, had a £68m wage bill that exceeded their entire turnover, and were £177m in debt. that's a season in the championship not the prem! that's bound to go up this season with the addition of rio, who will want a huge wage, and others. we may not pay enough wages but how can we compete with a club that is willing to overspend to that degree. we may have offered caulker a decent enough wage for his age and ability but we all know that redkrapp is just going to offer anything to get the player, he doesn't care where the money comes from or how much debt he runs up. the prems FFP wont affect qpr as its their owner can pay any fine they may get or will find a way of ploughing money into the club to get round those rules, they wont bother trying to comply with uefa`s ffp rules as they know they wont qualify for Europe this season. this is what happens when you have an owner who is happy to throw away huge amounts of money and a manager with a history of spending clubs broke. being a young centre back would you rather pick a team because they are willing to pay a lot more than anyone else or pick a team who pay less money but have a top quality, world class, big name, former centre back as their manager? a manager that you will be able to learn so much from and will probably make you a far better player? well if caulker goes to qpr then there is only one reason why. on a different note, " Suddenly everyone's an accountant and very concerned we don't spend kats money. didnt hear anyone mention it when we were flying high buying world class players" does anyone else know when we were `flying high` and spending `kats money` on `world class players`? funny she only took over ownership late last year and the only window we could have spent `her` money in was the jan window this year when we didn't spend anything! prior to her taking over the club was held in a trust set up by ST Markus and ran by NC. I`m still struggling though to find any `world class` players we have signed. Osvaldo? no dropped from the Italian squad. Gaston? no. good player but not world class. Big Vic? same as gaston. mayuka? really? J-rod? not yet but possible and he cost less than our bid for caulker! dejan? great player but a world class kn0b. anyone I`ve missed out?[/p][/quote]We have to stop making excuses and accept the Premier League as it is and compete in it. Otherwise why are we in it? I've heard the excuses as to why we can't retain our homegrown talent. I've heard the excuses as to why we can't tempt young talent from elsewhere to come here. I think we all need to wake up and smell the coffee before it's too late.[/p][/quote]seed I`m not giving excuses. I even said we may not pay enough wages. I was however trying to explain that whilst we have bid the same amount for caulker as qpr we just cannot compete with the wages they offer. that's because qpr are willing to spend way more on wages than hey make in a season, that's the way redkrapp does business and it would be suicide to try to outbid them on wages. we almost went out of business once, paid too much in the championship, so do we want to go down that route again? let qpr pay what they want, it wont help them in the long run. if we want to pay more wages we need a bigger stadium. we can afford to pay some players around £75k a week but that would just be a few and maybe we have other players earmarked for those funds. we will have to wait and see. de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 14

11:54am Fri 18 Jul 14

InsideOutCat says...

spratt wrote:
Unless Ron has got something up his sleeve I am getting worried with the new season nearly upon us. There seems to be an over reliance on our up and coming youngsters but this is not going to get us further up the Premier league and history shows they never stay with us long term anyway. Were we not assured, yes ASSURED that money is there for top class players who according to Les Reed were queing up to come here. So why the "sound of silence" and where is the big talking Kruger who promised so much. And where is the openness we as fans were promised?
There's a difference between openness and feeling obliged to justify their every thiught, deed and decision to you, me or anyone else on here. You start making some decisions involving this sort of money and these sorts of implication for the business and then see how keen you are to share your every thought with Uncle Tom Cobbley And All.
[quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: Unless Ron has got something up his sleeve I am getting worried with the new season nearly upon us. There seems to be an over reliance on our up and coming youngsters but this is not going to get us further up the Premier league and history shows they never stay with us long term anyway. Were we not assured, yes ASSURED that money is there for top class players who according to Les Reed were queing up to come here. So why the "sound of silence" and where is the big talking Kruger who promised so much. And where is the openness we as fans were promised?[/p][/quote]There's a difference between openness and feeling obliged to justify their every thiught, deed and decision to you, me or anyone else on here. You start making some decisions involving this sort of money and these sorts of implication for the business and then see how keen you are to share your every thought with Uncle Tom Cobbley And All. InsideOutCat
  • Score: 17

12:00pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Mush On The Beach says...

the cowman wrote:
Why do people prejudge. Let's wait until the window closes before we judge the board and manager on who they have brought and sold.
We don't know if we made a bid for Caulker, and if we did whether it was accepted. If we did and it was accepted by Cardiff then Caulker would make up his mind, all players seem to be mercenary now so if QPR offered him silly wages then he would in all probability end up there. Newcastle and West Ham seem to be buying in numbers, but they are all foreign and a gamble and may not necessarily improve their teams. I would rather we buy a few players that improve the team/squad rather "than the buy them all" attitude which some posters advocate. Any players we bring in lets give them a chance, Jay was slated in the early days, but once settled and used to the premiership I am sure we all agree he was a good buy, and if he scored the easy ones which he has a tendency to miss could be a 25 goal a season man.
Us football fans are a neurotic breed.
It's not the despair, we can take the despair. It's the hope we can't stand.
[quote][p][bold]the cowman[/bold] wrote: Why do people prejudge. Let's wait until the window closes before we judge the board and manager on who they have brought and sold. We don't know if we made a bid for Caulker, and if we did whether it was accepted. If we did and it was accepted by Cardiff then Caulker would make up his mind, all players seem to be mercenary now so if QPR offered him silly wages then he would in all probability end up there. Newcastle and West Ham seem to be buying in numbers, but they are all foreign and a gamble and may not necessarily improve their teams. I would rather we buy a few players that improve the team/squad rather "than the buy them all" attitude which some posters advocate. Any players we bring in lets give them a chance, Jay was slated in the early days, but once settled and used to the premiership I am sure we all agree he was a good buy, and if he scored the easy ones which he has a tendency to miss could be a 25 goal a season man.[/p][/quote]Us football fans are a neurotic breed. It's not the despair, we can take the despair. It's the hope we can't stand. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 5

12:08pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Sammy2sheds says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London.
Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.
Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle.

For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?
seed we bid the same amount as qpr and palace but itlooks like caulker is going to choose qpr. nothing to do with the money we bid or reeds `persuasiveness`.
qpr lost £65m in a season, had a £68m wage bill that exceeded their entire turnover, and were £177m in debt.
that's a season in the championship not the prem! that's bound to go up this season with the addition of rio, who will want a huge wage, and others.
we may not pay enough wages but how can we compete with a club that is willing to overspend to that degree. we may have offered caulker a decent enough wage for his age and ability but we all know that redkrapp is just going to offer anything to get the player, he doesn't care where the money comes from or how much debt he runs up.
the prems FFP wont affect qpr as its their owner can pay any fine they may get or will find a way of ploughing money into the club to get round those rules, they wont bother trying to comply with uefa`s ffp rules as they know they wont qualify for Europe this season.
this is what happens when you have an owner who is happy to throw away huge amounts of money and a manager with a history of spending clubs broke.
being a young centre back would you rather pick a team because they are willing to pay a lot more than anyone else or pick a team who pay less money but have a top quality, world class, big name, former centre back as their manager? a manager that you will be able to learn so much from and will probably make you a far better player? well if caulker goes to qpr then there is only one reason why.

on a different note,

" Suddenly everyone's an accountant and very concerned we don't spend kats money. didnt hear anyone mention it when we were flying high buying world class players"

does anyone else know when we were `flying high` and spending `kats money` on `world class players`?
funny she only took over ownership late last year and the only window we could have spent `her` money in was the jan window this year when we didn't spend anything! prior to her taking over the club was held in a trust set up by ST Markus and ran by NC. I`m still struggling though to find any `world class` players we have signed. Osvaldo? no dropped from the Italian squad. Gaston? no. good player but not world class. Big Vic? same as gaston. mayuka? really? J-rod? not yet but possible and he cost less than our bid for caulker! dejan? great player but a world class kn0b. anyone I`ve missed out?
We have to stop making excuses and accept the Premier League as it is and compete in it. Otherwise why are we in it?

I've heard the excuses as to why we can't retain our homegrown talent. I've heard the excuses as to why we can't tempt young talent from elsewhere to come here.

I think we all need to wake up and smell the coffee before it's too late.
seed I`m not giving excuses. I even said we may not pay enough wages. I was however trying to explain that whilst we have bid the same amount for caulker as qpr we just cannot compete with the wages they offer. that's because qpr are willing to spend way more on wages than hey make in a season, that's the way redkrapp does business and it would be suicide to try to outbid them on wages. we almost went out of business once, paid too much in the championship, so do we want to go down that route again? let qpr pay what they want, it wont help them in the long run. if we want to pay more wages we need a bigger stadium. we can afford to pay some players around £75k a week but that would just be a few and maybe we have other players earmarked for those funds. we will have to wait and see.
Another accountant with intimate knowledge of qprs books.or do we have a bs artist.you have no idea how much qpr are willing to spend on wages or what we offered.your an apologist for the club,just like you did when Lowe was running us into the ground.we would still have him if there were many more like you.wake up! Read the comments,saints supporters are starting to smell a rat.no not your breath,the fact that we are being lied to.be brave enough to have an opinion of your own,reading your posts is like going on the o/s site.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London. Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.[/p][/quote]Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle. For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?[/p][/quote]seed we bid the same amount as qpr and palace but itlooks like caulker is going to choose qpr. nothing to do with the money we bid or reeds `persuasiveness`. qpr lost £65m in a season, had a £68m wage bill that exceeded their entire turnover, and were £177m in debt. that's a season in the championship not the prem! that's bound to go up this season with the addition of rio, who will want a huge wage, and others. we may not pay enough wages but how can we compete with a club that is willing to overspend to that degree. we may have offered caulker a decent enough wage for his age and ability but we all know that redkrapp is just going to offer anything to get the player, he doesn't care where the money comes from or how much debt he runs up. the prems FFP wont affect qpr as its their owner can pay any fine they may get or will find a way of ploughing money into the club to get round those rules, they wont bother trying to comply with uefa`s ffp rules as they know they wont qualify for Europe this season. this is what happens when you have an owner who is happy to throw away huge amounts of money and a manager with a history of spending clubs broke. being a young centre back would you rather pick a team because they are willing to pay a lot more than anyone else or pick a team who pay less money but have a top quality, world class, big name, former centre back as their manager? a manager that you will be able to learn so much from and will probably make you a far better player? well if caulker goes to qpr then there is only one reason why. on a different note, " Suddenly everyone's an accountant and very concerned we don't spend kats money. didnt hear anyone mention it when we were flying high buying world class players" does anyone else know when we were `flying high` and spending `kats money` on `world class players`? funny she only took over ownership late last year and the only window we could have spent `her` money in was the jan window this year when we didn't spend anything! prior to her taking over the club was held in a trust set up by ST Markus and ran by NC. I`m still struggling though to find any `world class` players we have signed. Osvaldo? no dropped from the Italian squad. Gaston? no. good player but not world class. Big Vic? same as gaston. mayuka? really? J-rod? not yet but possible and he cost less than our bid for caulker! dejan? great player but a world class kn0b. anyone I`ve missed out?[/p][/quote]We have to stop making excuses and accept the Premier League as it is and compete in it. Otherwise why are we in it? I've heard the excuses as to why we can't retain our homegrown talent. I've heard the excuses as to why we can't tempt young talent from elsewhere to come here. I think we all need to wake up and smell the coffee before it's too late.[/p][/quote]seed I`m not giving excuses. I even said we may not pay enough wages. I was however trying to explain that whilst we have bid the same amount for caulker as qpr we just cannot compete with the wages they offer. that's because qpr are willing to spend way more on wages than hey make in a season, that's the way redkrapp does business and it would be suicide to try to outbid them on wages. we almost went out of business once, paid too much in the championship, so do we want to go down that route again? let qpr pay what they want, it wont help them in the long run. if we want to pay more wages we need a bigger stadium. we can afford to pay some players around £75k a week but that would just be a few and maybe we have other players earmarked for those funds. we will have to wait and see.[/p][/quote]Another accountant with intimate knowledge of qprs books.or do we have a bs artist.you have no idea how much qpr are willing to spend on wages or what we offered.your an apologist for the club,just like you did when Lowe was running us into the ground.we would still have him if there were many more like you.wake up! Read the comments,saints supporters are starting to smell a rat.no not your breath,the fact that we are being lied to.be brave enough to have an opinion of your own,reading your posts is like going on the o/s site. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 21

12:08pm Fri 18 Jul 14

deepheat says...

With hindsight I do wonder what we have achieved by sacking Nigel Adkins and appointing that sheitbag who left us for Totton.....Ham. That sheitbag inherited a very good team put together by two English managers. In the end that Sheitbag turned out to be a dishonest and disruptive manager who was only in it for himself. When you look at the weak teams (especially those with manger problems) that finished below us last season and at one point any team from ten could have been relegated I think 8th place is the least we could have expected. In reality this season is all about rebuilding for the following season when the new manager and new players get use to the EPL and once again establish a good team. I will be happy and settle for a mid table finish and a good cup run this season
With hindsight I do wonder what we have achieved by sacking Nigel Adkins and appointing that sheitbag who left us for Totton.....Ham. That sheitbag inherited a very good team put together by two English managers. In the end that Sheitbag turned out to be a dishonest and disruptive manager who was only in it for himself. When you look at the weak teams (especially those with manger problems) that finished below us last season and at one point any team from ten could have been relegated I think 8th place is the least we could have expected. In reality this season is all about rebuilding for the following season when the new manager and new players get use to the EPL and once again establish a good team. I will be happy and settle for a mid table finish and a good cup run this season deepheat
  • Score: 29

12:13pm Fri 18 Jul 14

St Van Roetford says...

Christ, you lot. We're clearly going to sign more players and some of them will be bloody good. It's going to happen. Stop worrying. Go and sit in a beer garden and drink some cider or something.
Christ, you lot. We're clearly going to sign more players and some of them will be bloody good. It's going to happen. Stop worrying. Go and sit in a beer garden and drink some cider or something. St Van Roetford
  • Score: 37

12:20pm Fri 18 Jul 14

J7junctionseven says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
Christ, you lot. We're clearly going to sign more players and some of them will be bloody good. It's going to happen. Stop worrying. Go and sit in a beer garden and drink some cider or something.
Best advice of the day..I'm off to get some "apples" down my neck!!
COYR FOADP
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: Christ, you lot. We're clearly going to sign more players and some of them will be bloody good. It's going to happen. Stop worrying. Go and sit in a beer garden and drink some cider or something.[/p][/quote]Best advice of the day..I'm off to get some "apples" down my neck!! COYR FOADP J7junctionseven
  • Score: 10

12:28pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
Christ, you lot. We're clearly going to sign more players and some of them will be bloody good. It's going to happen. Stop worrying. Go and sit in a beer garden and drink some cider or something.
Best advice of the day..I'm off to get some "apples" down my neck!!
COYR FOADP
I recommend "Old Rosie".
Three pints of that,and you won't have a care in the world.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: Christ, you lot. We're clearly going to sign more players and some of them will be bloody good. It's going to happen. Stop worrying. Go and sit in a beer garden and drink some cider or something.[/p][/quote]Best advice of the day..I'm off to get some "apples" down my neck!! COYR FOADP[/p][/quote]I recommend "Old Rosie". Three pints of that,and you won't have a care in the world. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

12:35pm Fri 18 Jul 14

right back in the bar says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
When Sky increased their money to the Prem and BT came in the sad and obvious thing happened that always happens - transfer fees and wages simply went up. We have benefited in the ones we have sold going for big money but Les doesn't seem to have grasped it when purchasing.

The two signings todate were targets of Ron's playing in the Dutch league. None of the targets identified by the club, and talked about by Les, who were super keen to come here have in fact arrived. When it was first announced that we were after Caulker and then QPR arrived on the season I instantly feared we would lose out. Much has been posted about not being able to compete with big teams with big revenue, but we are bigger than QPR yet still lose.
Something I have been saying for ages on here and getting shot down for it: Les Reed is ineffective. Take Redmond - he would be a fantastic buy for us especially given the way we will line up this season. So what does Reed do? Offer a princely sum of £3m.
QPR will struggle again next season for sure but Caulker prefers them to us ..., why? Harry says its because of Rio but he's washed up and only there for London nightclubs and endless supplies of Coke. Reed cant seem to convince players to come here; or he can't convince the board or make the case for putting decent packages together to attract players. Or maybe he is just a yes man - tells others what they want to hear.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: When Sky increased their money to the Prem and BT came in the sad and obvious thing happened that always happens - transfer fees and wages simply went up. We have benefited in the ones we have sold going for big money but Les doesn't seem to have grasped it when purchasing. The two signings todate were targets of Ron's playing in the Dutch league. None of the targets identified by the club, and talked about by Les, who were super keen to come here have in fact arrived. When it was first announced that we were after Caulker and then QPR arrived on the season I instantly feared we would lose out. Much has been posted about not being able to compete with big teams with big revenue, but we are bigger than QPR yet still lose.[/p][/quote]Something I have been saying for ages on here and getting shot down for it: Les Reed is ineffective. Take Redmond - he would be a fantastic buy for us especially given the way we will line up this season. So what does Reed do? Offer a princely sum of £3m. QPR will struggle again next season for sure but Caulker prefers them to us ..., why? Harry says its because of Rio but he's washed up and only there for London nightclubs and endless supplies of Coke. Reed cant seem to convince players to come here; or he can't convince the board or make the case for putting decent packages together to attract players. Or maybe he is just a yes man - tells others what they want to hear. right back in the bar
  • Score: 0

12:38pm Fri 18 Jul 14

mack chinnon says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
Christ, you lot. We're clearly going to sign more players and some of them will be bloody good. It's going to happen. Stop worrying. Go and sit in a beer garden and drink some cider or something.
Best advice of the day..I'm off to get some "apples" down my neck!!
COYR FOADP
And me.
Come on Exeter.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: Christ, you lot. We're clearly going to sign more players and some of them will be bloody good. It's going to happen. Stop worrying. Go and sit in a beer garden and drink some cider or something.[/p][/quote]Best advice of the day..I'm off to get some "apples" down my neck!! COYR FOADP[/p][/quote]And me. Come on Exeter. mack chinnon
  • Score: 1

12:38pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
Christ, you lot. We're clearly going to sign more players and some of them will be bloody good. It's going to happen. Stop worrying. Go and sit in a beer garden and drink some cider or something.
Best advice of the day..I'm off to get some "apples" down my neck!!
COYR FOADP
I recommend "Old Rosie".
Three pints of that,and you won't have a care in the world.
Alas, I'm out of cider, so I'll have to make do with a couple of apples that were left in the sun-drenched kitchen and have sort of started fermenting.

Meanwhile, thanks for the logic on transfers, Ret, with a couple of exceptions, I was beginning to think the heat was having a seriously neghead effect on everyone.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: Christ, you lot. We're clearly going to sign more players and some of them will be bloody good. It's going to happen. Stop worrying. Go and sit in a beer garden and drink some cider or something.[/p][/quote]Best advice of the day..I'm off to get some "apples" down my neck!! COYR FOADP[/p][/quote]I recommend "Old Rosie". Three pints of that,and you won't have a care in the world.[/p][/quote]Alas, I'm out of cider, so I'll have to make do with a couple of apples that were left in the sun-drenched kitchen and have sort of started fermenting. Meanwhile, thanks for the logic on transfers, Ret, with a couple of exceptions, I was beginning to think the heat was having a seriously neghead effect on everyone. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 0

12:41pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

the cowman wrote:
Why do people prejudge. Let's wait until the window closes before we judge the board and manager on who they have brought and sold.
We don't know if we made a bid for Caulker, and if we did whether it was accepted. If we did and it was accepted by Cardiff then Caulker would make up his mind, all players seem to be mercenary now so if QPR offered him silly wages then he would in all probability end up there. Newcastle and West Ham seem to be buying in numbers, but they are all foreign and a gamble and may not necessarily improve their teams. I would rather we buy a few players that improve the team/squad rather "than the buy them all" attitude which some posters advocate. Any players we bring in lets give them a chance, Jay was slated in the early days, but once settled and used to the premiership I am sure we all agree he was a good buy, and if he scored the easy ones which he has a tendency to miss could be a 25 goal a season man.
..... and here's one of the exceptions I mentioned above.

Maybe Sammy2twats can tell me how to give this a multiple thumbs up.
[quote][p][bold]the cowman[/bold] wrote: Why do people prejudge. Let's wait until the window closes before we judge the board and manager on who they have brought and sold. We don't know if we made a bid for Caulker, and if we did whether it was accepted. If we did and it was accepted by Cardiff then Caulker would make up his mind, all players seem to be mercenary now so if QPR offered him silly wages then he would in all probability end up there. Newcastle and West Ham seem to be buying in numbers, but they are all foreign and a gamble and may not necessarily improve their teams. I would rather we buy a few players that improve the team/squad rather "than the buy them all" attitude which some posters advocate. Any players we bring in lets give them a chance, Jay was slated in the early days, but once settled and used to the premiership I am sure we all agree he was a good buy, and if he scored the easy ones which he has a tendency to miss could be a 25 goal a season man.[/p][/quote]..... and here's one of the exceptions I mentioned above. Maybe Sammy2twats can tell me how to give this a multiple thumbs up. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 9

12:42pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Churchill Saint says...

the usual suspect moaners and WUMs are out in force today. Its amazing how short people's memories are considering what happened to that lot down the road.
My opinion on Caulker is that we did inquire and would have paid the asking price. However, QPR have offered better player terms and so he'll join QPR. We should never break our salary structure to get an individual player in. If QPR wants to pay him more, he should go there and we move on. I hope Tony Fernandes has got his sums right. A team managed by Rednapp paying over the top wages to attract stars has a very familiar ring about it.
Why are the moaners complaining about lack of Saints transfer activity? Just because there are no announcements doesn't mean nothing is happening in the background. I would guess that the whole management team are currently involved is numerous opportunities. You don't need a Harvard MBA to understand that if you let your intentions known you weaken your negotiating position. Keep it quiet until the deal is done and then announce it; as a fan I'm prepared to wait. I also believe that RK is targeting some World Cup players who are still on holiday for another week. He may well be targeting Ron Vlarr, for example, but nothing's going to happen until he's back from hols.
the usual suspect moaners and WUMs are out in force today. Its amazing how short people's memories are considering what happened to that lot down the road. My opinion on Caulker is that we did inquire and would have paid the asking price. However, QPR have offered better player terms and so he'll join QPR. We should never break our salary structure to get an individual player in. If QPR wants to pay him more, he should go there and we move on. I hope Tony Fernandes has got his sums right. A team managed by Rednapp paying over the top wages to attract stars has a very familiar ring about it. Why are the moaners complaining about lack of Saints transfer activity? Just because there are no announcements doesn't mean nothing is happening in the background. I would guess that the whole management team are currently involved is numerous opportunities. You don't need a Harvard MBA to understand that if you let your intentions known you weaken your negotiating position. Keep it quiet until the deal is done and then announce it; as a fan I'm prepared to wait. I also believe that RK is targeting some World Cup players who are still on holiday for another week. He may well be targeting Ron Vlarr, for example, but nothing's going to happen until he's back from hols. Churchill Saint
  • Score: 22

12:44pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

mack chinnon wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
Christ, you lot. We're clearly going to sign more players and some of them will be bloody good. It's going to happen. Stop worrying. Go and sit in a beer garden and drink some cider or something.
Best advice of the day..I'm off to get some "apples" down my neck!!
COYR FOADP
And me.
Come on Exeter.
Is that who the Skates kick off against, Mack?

I have to say, that one's already looking like a relegation six pointer.
[quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: Christ, you lot. We're clearly going to sign more players and some of them will be bloody good. It's going to happen. Stop worrying. Go and sit in a beer garden and drink some cider or something.[/p][/quote]Best advice of the day..I'm off to get some "apples" down my neck!! COYR FOADP[/p][/quote]And me. Come on Exeter.[/p][/quote]Is that who the Skates kick off against, Mack? I have to say, that one's already looking like a relegation six pointer. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 5

12:45pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Tony in Liberia says...

Couple of things - all those saying "it's about time WE started spending OUR money" should remember that it's not OUR money, it's KL's money. It's incredibly easy to demand money be spent when it isn't ours, and in my opinion not terribly helpful.

The club is a business at the end of the day, and will have a business model which the management believe will deliver long-term, sustainable success. It may be that our 'fans' version of success is different to the management's version - ours is to spend gazzillions, win the premier league and then the champions' league, while theirs is to have a team that punches above it's weight, due to getting as many things right as possible (such as the training and youth system, the manager), but doesn't dress above it's shoe size. I would love the former, but I am also realistic enough to know that the latter is better.

Some people say that KL should sell the club to someone who does want to invest, but who would that be? The ones who have invested that kind of money in teams have done so in teams with the potential for much bigger regular crowds and international fanbases than ours. We may beat Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea, City, Arsenal from time, but we are NEVER going to match their earning potential. So, it makes no sense to aspire to match them.

We don't know what the club are doing behind the scenes, but one thing we can be certain of is that they know we need to strengthen the squad, they know the type of players we need, and they are doing their best to get them, within our business model. All we can do as fans is hope that they do this right; we can't really affect it.

We can also be a bit patient.

And those calling for more openness can ask those like Seedhouse who run businesses about how sensible it is to discuss your plans in public with potential competitors listening, rather than dealing in private and announcing deals when they are done.

I think this is going to be a chuffing great season!
Couple of things - all those saying "it's about time WE started spending OUR money" should remember that it's not OUR money, it's KL's money. It's incredibly easy to demand money be spent when it isn't ours, and in my opinion not terribly helpful. The club is a business at the end of the day, and will have a business model which the management believe will deliver long-term, sustainable success. It may be that our 'fans' version of success is different to the management's version - ours is to spend gazzillions, win the premier league and then the champions' league, while theirs is to have a team that punches above it's weight, due to getting as many things right as possible (such as the training and youth system, the manager), but doesn't dress above it's shoe size. I would love the former, but I am also realistic enough to know that the latter is better. Some people say that KL should sell the club to someone who does want to invest, but who would that be? The ones who have invested that kind of money in teams have done so in teams with the potential for much bigger regular crowds and international fanbases than ours. We may beat Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea, City, Arsenal from time, but we are NEVER going to match their earning potential. So, it makes no sense to aspire to match them. We don't know what the club are doing behind the scenes, but one thing we can be certain of is that they know we need to strengthen the squad, they know the type of players we need, and they are doing their best to get them, within our business model. All we can do as fans is hope that they do this right; we can't really affect it. We can also be a bit patient. And those calling for more openness can ask those like Seedhouse who run businesses about how sensible it is to discuss your plans in public with potential competitors listening, rather than dealing in private and announcing deals when they are done. I think this is going to be a chuffing great season! Tony in Liberia
  • Score: 33

12:59pm Fri 18 Jul 14

contric says...

can anyone on here tell me how long it takes to walk from millbrook railway station to bat in regents park road any informationwill be gratefully received
can anyone on here tell me how long it takes to walk from millbrook railway station to bat in regents park road any informationwill be gratefully received contric
  • Score: 2

1:08pm Fri 18 Jul 14

NC Fan4Life says...

The general opinion on here is a growing concern at the lack of transfer activity, and I share the concern. Our rivals are all strengthening so must Saints if we are to improve.

All of us including Les and the board knew that we required 4 players who were BETTER that what we had to add to last seasons squad since Christmas and BEFORE the 3 departures.

With only 3 weeks to go we have only replaced 2 of the 3 gone.

That leaves FIVE top players still to bring in and little time for RonKo to settle them into a team and hit the ground running.

We must not buy players just for cover, current players that loose out will be that, and we must not wait until transfer deadline day.

Come on Les we must know who our FIVE targets are GK, LB, CB, W & Striker, so what is taking so long.

We have missed out on Caulker who is a future England CB, and two of Feyenoord's world cup CB's, so hope we have at least one lined up, two if Lovren goes.

A BETTER Striker than Pelle & J-Rod is also Urgent.

Five top players in 3 weeks required Les so come time is running out, you need to give RonKo a chance with a better squad than last year which currently we havn't got.

You have been saying it but not showing it as yet, it is not rocket science these 5 better players are a necessary to improve the team, otherwise Morgan will also go.

We CAN afford them so please get on with it, us natives are getting increasingly restless !!

Just received my season ticket with a letter from Ralph saying they aim "to move Saints to an even higher level" next season.

COYR&WS
The general opinion on here is a growing concern at the lack of transfer activity, and I share the concern. Our rivals are all strengthening so must Saints if we are to improve. All of us including Les and the board knew that we required 4 players who were BETTER that what we had to add to last seasons squad since Christmas and BEFORE the 3 departures. With only 3 weeks to go we have only replaced 2 of the 3 gone. That leaves FIVE top players still to bring in and little time for RonKo to settle them into a team and hit the ground running. We must not buy players just for cover, current players that loose out will be that, and we must not wait until transfer deadline day. Come on Les we must know who our FIVE targets are GK, LB, CB, W & Striker, so what is taking so long. We have missed out on Caulker who is a future England CB, and two of Feyenoord's world cup CB's, so hope we have at least one lined up, two if Lovren goes. A BETTER Striker than Pelle & J-Rod is also Urgent. Five top players in 3 weeks required Les so come time is running out, you need to give RonKo a chance with a better squad than last year which currently we havn't got. You have been saying it but not showing it as yet, it is not rocket science these 5 better players are a necessary to improve the team, otherwise Morgan will also go. We CAN afford them so please get on with it, us natives are getting increasingly restless !! Just received my season ticket with a letter from Ralph saying they aim "to move Saints to an even higher level" next season. COYR&WS NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 4

1:11pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Chipmonk1 says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London.
Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.
Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle.

For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?
seed we bid the same amount as qpr and palace but itlooks like caulker is going to choose qpr. nothing to do with the money we bid or reeds `persuasiveness`.
qpr lost £65m in a season, had a £68m wage bill that exceeded their entire turnover, and were £177m in debt.
that's a season in the championship not the prem! that's bound to go up this season with the addition of rio, who will want a huge wage, and others.
we may not pay enough wages but how can we compete with a club that is willing to overspend to that degree. we may have offered caulker a decent enough wage for his age and ability but we all know that redkrapp is just going to offer anything to get the player, he doesn't care where the money comes from or how much debt he runs up.
the prems FFP wont affect qpr as its their owner can pay any fine they may get or will find a way of ploughing money into the club to get round those rules, they wont bother trying to comply with uefa`s ffp rules as they know they wont qualify for Europe this season.
this is what happens when you have an owner who is happy to throw away huge amounts of money and a manager with a history of spending clubs broke.
being a young centre back would you rather pick a team because they are willing to pay a lot more than anyone else or pick a team who pay less money but have a top quality, world class, big name, former centre back as their manager? a manager that you will be able to learn so much from and will probably make you a far better player? well if caulker goes to qpr then there is only one reason why.

on a different note,

" Suddenly everyone's an accountant and very concerned we don't spend kats money. didnt hear anyone mention it when we were flying high buying world class players"

does anyone else know when we were `flying high` and spending `kats money` on `world class players`?
funny she only took over ownership late last year and the only window we could have spent `her` money in was the jan window this year when we didn't spend anything! prior to her taking over the club was held in a trust set up by ST Markus and ran by NC. I`m still struggling though to find any `world class` players we have signed. Osvaldo? no dropped from the Italian squad. Gaston? no. good player but not world class. Big Vic? same as gaston. mayuka? really? J-rod? not yet but possible and he cost less than our bid for caulker! dejan? great player but a world class kn0b. anyone I`ve missed out?
We have to stop making excuses and accept the Premier League as it is and compete in it. Otherwise why are we in it?

I've heard the excuses as to why we can't retain our homegrown talent. I've heard the excuses as to why we can't tempt young talent from elsewhere to come here.

I think we all need to wake up and smell the coffee before it's too late.
seed I`m not giving excuses. I even said we may not pay enough wages. I was however trying to explain that whilst we have bid the same amount for caulker as qpr we just cannot compete with the wages they offer. that's because qpr are willing to spend way more on wages than hey make in a season, that's the way redkrapp does business and it would be suicide to try to outbid them on wages. we almost went out of business once, paid too much in the championship, so do we want to go down that route again? let qpr pay what they want, it wont help them in the long run. if we want to pay more wages we need a bigger stadium. we can afford to pay some players around £75k a week but that would just be a few and maybe we have other players earmarked for those funds. we will have to wait and see.
Another accountant with intimate knowledge of qprs books.or do we have a bs artist.you have no idea how much qpr are willing to spend on wages or what we offered.your an apologist for the club,just like you did when Lowe was running us into the ground.we would still have him if there were many more like you.wake up! Read the comments,saints supporters are starting to smell a rat.no not your breath,the fact that we are being lied to.be brave enough to have an opinion of your own,reading your posts is like going on the o/s site.
Yes de Heiligen listen to Sammy. Relogin with a different username (say knackers for example) and offer wildly contradictory "opinions". Then maybe you will be taken seriously. Like Sammy 😆
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London. Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.[/p][/quote]Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle. For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?[/p][/quote]seed we bid the same amount as qpr and palace but itlooks like caulker is going to choose qpr. nothing to do with the money we bid or reeds `persuasiveness`. qpr lost £65m in a season, had a £68m wage bill that exceeded their entire turnover, and were £177m in debt. that's a season in the championship not the prem! that's bound to go up this season with the addition of rio, who will want a huge wage, and others. we may not pay enough wages but how can we compete with a club that is willing to overspend to that degree. we may have offered caulker a decent enough wage for his age and ability but we all know that redkrapp is just going to offer anything to get the player, he doesn't care where the money comes from or how much debt he runs up. the prems FFP wont affect qpr as its their owner can pay any fine they may get or will find a way of ploughing money into the club to get round those rules, they wont bother trying to comply with uefa`s ffp rules as they know they wont qualify for Europe this season. this is what happens when you have an owner who is happy to throw away huge amounts of money and a manager with a history of spending clubs broke. being a young centre back would you rather pick a team because they are willing to pay a lot more than anyone else or pick a team who pay less money but have a top quality, world class, big name, former centre back as their manager? a manager that you will be able to learn so much from and will probably make you a far better player? well if caulker goes to qpr then there is only one reason why. on a different note, " Suddenly everyone's an accountant and very concerned we don't spend kats money. didnt hear anyone mention it when we were flying high buying world class players" does anyone else know when we were `flying high` and spending `kats money` on `world class players`? funny she only took over ownership late last year and the only window we could have spent `her` money in was the jan window this year when we didn't spend anything! prior to her taking over the club was held in a trust set up by ST Markus and ran by NC. I`m still struggling though to find any `world class` players we have signed. Osvaldo? no dropped from the Italian squad. Gaston? no. good player but not world class. Big Vic? same as gaston. mayuka? really? J-rod? not yet but possible and he cost less than our bid for caulker! dejan? great player but a world class kn0b. anyone I`ve missed out?[/p][/quote]We have to stop making excuses and accept the Premier League as it is and compete in it. Otherwise why are we in it? I've heard the excuses as to why we can't retain our homegrown talent. I've heard the excuses as to why we can't tempt young talent from elsewhere to come here. I think we all need to wake up and smell the coffee before it's too late.[/p][/quote]seed I`m not giving excuses. I even said we may not pay enough wages. I was however trying to explain that whilst we have bid the same amount for caulker as qpr we just cannot compete with the wages they offer. that's because qpr are willing to spend way more on wages than hey make in a season, that's the way redkrapp does business and it would be suicide to try to outbid them on wages. we almost went out of business once, paid too much in the championship, so do we want to go down that route again? let qpr pay what they want, it wont help them in the long run. if we want to pay more wages we need a bigger stadium. we can afford to pay some players around £75k a week but that would just be a few and maybe we have other players earmarked for those funds. we will have to wait and see.[/p][/quote]Another accountant with intimate knowledge of qprs books.or do we have a bs artist.you have no idea how much qpr are willing to spend on wages or what we offered.your an apologist for the club,just like you did when Lowe was running us into the ground.we would still have him if there were many more like you.wake up! Read the comments,saints supporters are starting to smell a rat.no not your breath,the fact that we are being lied to.be brave enough to have an opinion of your own,reading your posts is like going on the o/s site.[/p][/quote]Yes de Heiligen listen to Sammy. Relogin with a different username (say knackers for example) and offer wildly contradictory "opinions". Then maybe you will be taken seriously. Like Sammy 😆 Chipmonk1
  • Score: 1

1:21pm Fri 18 Jul 14

TGodSFC says...

********************
***NOTE TO BOARD***************
*********
Up the wage bill for current squad players and incoming transfers, balance the books and use transfer kitty if you have to. Just make it happen or we’ll never compete in Europe let alone BPL !!
I doubt anyone of any importance will read this.
******************** ***NOTE TO BOARD*************** ********* Up the wage bill for current squad players and incoming transfers, balance the books and use transfer kitty if you have to. Just make it happen or we’ll never compete in Europe let alone BPL !! I doubt anyone of any importance will read this. TGodSFC
  • Score: -7

1:51pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

right back in the bar wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
When Sky increased their money to the Prem and BT came in the sad and obvious thing happened that always happens - transfer fees and wages simply went up. We have benefited in the ones we have sold going for big money but Les doesn't seem to have grasped it when purchasing.

The two signings todate were targets of Ron's playing in the Dutch league. None of the targets identified by the club, and talked about by Les, who were super keen to come here have in fact arrived. When it was first announced that we were after Caulker and then QPR arrived on the season I instantly feared we would lose out. Much has been posted about not being able to compete with big teams with big revenue, but we are bigger than QPR yet still lose.
Something I have been saying for ages on here and getting shot down for it: Les Reed is ineffective. Take Redmond - he would be a fantastic buy for us especially given the way we will line up this season. So what does Reed do? Offer a princely sum of £3m.
QPR will struggle again next season for sure but Caulker prefers them to us ..., why? Harry says its because of Rio but he's washed up and only there for London nightclubs and endless supplies of Coke. Reed cant seem to convince players to come here; or he can't convince the board or make the case for putting decent packages together to attract players. Or maybe he is just a yes man - tells others what they want to hear.
The one who concerns me most is Ralph. Les is obviously well connected in the game but is very much a back room person, not a lot of charisma there. Under NC he will have done the leg work but when it came to persuasion, when it came to selling the vision to the targets, NC was wheeled out. We know this because we've been told by those signings that was the reason they came to us. The apologists keep saying Ralph is getting on with his job quietly, maybe he is, but I have genuine concerns as to how effective he is.
[quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: When Sky increased their money to the Prem and BT came in the sad and obvious thing happened that always happens - transfer fees and wages simply went up. We have benefited in the ones we have sold going for big money but Les doesn't seem to have grasped it when purchasing. The two signings todate were targets of Ron's playing in the Dutch league. None of the targets identified by the club, and talked about by Les, who were super keen to come here have in fact arrived. When it was first announced that we were after Caulker and then QPR arrived on the season I instantly feared we would lose out. Much has been posted about not being able to compete with big teams with big revenue, but we are bigger than QPR yet still lose.[/p][/quote]Something I have been saying for ages on here and getting shot down for it: Les Reed is ineffective. Take Redmond - he would be a fantastic buy for us especially given the way we will line up this season. So what does Reed do? Offer a princely sum of £3m. QPR will struggle again next season for sure but Caulker prefers them to us ..., why? Harry says its because of Rio but he's washed up and only there for London nightclubs and endless supplies of Coke. Reed cant seem to convince players to come here; or he can't convince the board or make the case for putting decent packages together to attract players. Or maybe he is just a yes man - tells others what they want to hear.[/p][/quote]The one who concerns me most is Ralph. Les is obviously well connected in the game but is very much a back room person, not a lot of charisma there. Under NC he will have done the leg work but when it came to persuasion, when it came to selling the vision to the targets, NC was wheeled out. We know this because we've been told by those signings that was the reason they came to us. The apologists keep saying Ralph is getting on with his job quietly, maybe he is, but I have genuine concerns as to how effective he is. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -10

1:53pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Tony in Liberia wrote:
Couple of things - all those saying "it's about time WE started spending OUR money" should remember that it's not OUR money, it's KL's money. It's incredibly easy to demand money be spent when it isn't ours, and in my opinion not terribly helpful.

The club is a business at the end of the day, and will have a business model which the management believe will deliver long-term, sustainable success. It may be that our 'fans' version of success is different to the management's version - ours is to spend gazzillions, win the premier league and then the champions' league, while theirs is to have a team that punches above it's weight, due to getting as many things right as possible (such as the training and youth system, the manager), but doesn't dress above it's shoe size. I would love the former, but I am also realistic enough to know that the latter is better.

Some people say that KL should sell the club to someone who does want to invest, but who would that be? The ones who have invested that kind of money in teams have done so in teams with the potential for much bigger regular crowds and international fanbases than ours. We may beat Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea, City, Arsenal from time, but we are NEVER going to match their earning potential. So, it makes no sense to aspire to match them.

We don't know what the club are doing behind the scenes, but one thing we can be certain of is that they know we need to strengthen the squad, they know the type of players we need, and they are doing their best to get them, within our business model. All we can do as fans is hope that they do this right; we can't really affect it.

We can also be a bit patient.

And those calling for more openness can ask those like Seedhouse who run businesses about how sensible it is to discuss your plans in public with potential competitors listening, rather than dealing in private and announcing deals when they are done.

I think this is going to be a chuffing great season!
Quite right, too, Tony.

In the mad, mad world of chocolate, I'm a Snicker man (oh, alright, 'Marathon'). When I feel peckish, I like nothing better. Even when I don't want chocolate, if I'm in a shop and I see a stack of Marathons, I sort of look at them as if they're mine. It's comforting to see them, in the same way that it's a bit comforting to spot a Saints top when you're on holiday in, say, Spain. Passing a Mars lorry is a bit like passing a car with a Saints' scarf flying out the window when travelling to away matches. Yep, through Marathon/Snicker bars, Mars and I have a bond which goes beyond the normal **** for chocolate.

The funny thing is, I've not once written to Mars demanding that they change packaging because it's the wrong colour or that they spend more on better quality chocolate and less on advertising, nor have I demanded to see their accounts, even though a little portion of their profit came from my purchases.

I know supporting Saints and buying chocolate isn't the same thing, but I do realise that there are some things I can - and have a right to - change, and there are some things which I have to put up with, like that naff tabac down the road who only stocks friggin Milo stuff ... 'parce que
il est produire à Strasbourg, monsieur, PAH!'

I want to see Saints crowned champions of Europe as much as the next person but won't blame anyone at the club when it doesn't happen, just as I won't stop supporting Saints if the quality of player drops or the results are poor.

Mind you, if Katharina got a multi-million sponsorship deal out of Mars ..................
[quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: Couple of things - all those saying "it's about time WE started spending OUR money" should remember that it's not OUR money, it's KL's money. It's incredibly easy to demand money be spent when it isn't ours, and in my opinion not terribly helpful. The club is a business at the end of the day, and will have a business model which the management believe will deliver long-term, sustainable success. It may be that our 'fans' version of success is different to the management's version - ours is to spend gazzillions, win the premier league and then the champions' league, while theirs is to have a team that punches above it's weight, due to getting as many things right as possible (such as the training and youth system, the manager), but doesn't dress above it's shoe size. I would love the former, but I am also realistic enough to know that the latter is better. Some people say that KL should sell the club to someone who does want to invest, but who would that be? The ones who have invested that kind of money in teams have done so in teams with the potential for much bigger regular crowds and international fanbases than ours. We may beat Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea, City, Arsenal from time, but we are NEVER going to match their earning potential. So, it makes no sense to aspire to match them. We don't know what the club are doing behind the scenes, but one thing we can be certain of is that they know we need to strengthen the squad, they know the type of players we need, and they are doing their best to get them, within our business model. All we can do as fans is hope that they do this right; we can't really affect it. We can also be a bit patient. And those calling for more openness can ask those like Seedhouse who run businesses about how sensible it is to discuss your plans in public with potential competitors listening, rather than dealing in private and announcing deals when they are done. I think this is going to be a chuffing great season![/p][/quote]Quite right, too, Tony. In the mad, mad world of chocolate, I'm a Snicker man (oh, alright, 'Marathon'). When I feel peckish, I like nothing better. Even when I don't want chocolate, if I'm in a shop and I see a stack of Marathons, I sort of look at them as if they're mine. It's comforting to see them, in the same way that it's a bit comforting to spot a Saints top when you're on holiday in, say, Spain. Passing a Mars lorry is a bit like passing a car with a Saints' scarf flying out the window when travelling to away matches. Yep, through Marathon/Snicker bars, Mars and I have a bond which goes beyond the normal **** for chocolate. The funny thing is, I've not once written to Mars demanding that they change packaging because it's the wrong colour or that they spend more on better quality chocolate and less on advertising, nor have I demanded to see their accounts, even though a little portion of their profit came from my purchases. I know supporting Saints and buying chocolate isn't the same thing, but I do realise that there are some things I can - and have a right to - change, and there are some things which I have to put up with, like that naff tabac down the road who only stocks friggin Milo stuff ... 'parce que il est produire à Strasbourg, monsieur, PAH!' I want to see Saints crowned champions of Europe as much as the next person but won't blame anyone at the club when it doesn't happen, just as I won't stop supporting Saints if the quality of player drops or the results are poor. Mind you, if Katharina got a multi-million sponsorship deal out of Mars .................. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 12

2:03pm Fri 18 Jul 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
This is who we should be trying to sign but no action from us.wheres all the millions? Offering 3million for Redmond.what a joke.lets go and buy a cheap foreign mercenarie,don't worry les is already onto it.
What and have a club £177 million in debt like Rebnobs, whilst they offer average players like Calker £100 k a week ......... The next P'muff !!

No thanks run our club properly and have a future thanks you !!!!
Suddenly everyone's an accountant and very concerned we don't spend kats money.didnt hear anyone mention it when we were flying high buying world class players.theres a difference between prudence and lack of ambition.if we are only prepared to pay certain prices then we can only bid for players that fall into that price range.i believe we are looking at the bottom to middle range player.i am all for integration of youth but our squad is way to young.too many untested young players who need to be drip fed into the team and not overplayed or destroyed by a hammering.ever banega was mentioned again and his signing would show ambition,he is quality.i just believe that saints are shopping with the small change from all of the money.
Where's Ralph?
I'd just like Sammy2skates to tell us which world class players we signed because I haven't seen any...

Gaston? Osvaldo? Jay Rod? Cork? Davis? Boruc? Lovren? Guly?

The last world class player we had at Southampton was Matthew Le Tissier. We can't buy world class players and neither can anyone else apart from the top 4/5.
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: This is who we should be trying to sign but no action from us.wheres all the millions? Offering 3million for Redmond.what a joke.lets go and buy a cheap foreign mercenarie,don't worry les is already onto it.[/p][/quote]What and have a club £177 million in debt like Rebnobs, whilst they offer average players like Calker £100 k a week ......... The next P'muff !! No thanks run our club properly and have a future thanks you !!!![/p][/quote]Suddenly everyone's an accountant and very concerned we don't spend kats money.didnt hear anyone mention it when we were flying high buying world class players.theres a difference between prudence and lack of ambition.if we are only prepared to pay certain prices then we can only bid for players that fall into that price range.i believe we are looking at the bottom to middle range player.i am all for integration of youth but our squad is way to young.too many untested young players who need to be drip fed into the team and not overplayed or destroyed by a hammering.ever banega was mentioned again and his signing would show ambition,he is quality.i just believe that saints are shopping with the small change from all of the money. Where's Ralph?[/p][/quote]I'd just like Sammy2skates to tell us which world class players we signed because I haven't seen any... Gaston? Osvaldo? Jay Rod? Cork? Davis? Boruc? Lovren? Guly? The last world class player we had at Southampton was Matthew Le Tissier. We can't buy world class players and neither can anyone else apart from the top 4/5. SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: 12

2:17pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Tony in Liberia wrote:
Couple of things - all those saying "it's about time WE started spending OUR money" should remember that it's not OUR money, it's KL's money. It's incredibly easy to demand money be spent when it isn't ours, and in my opinion not terribly helpful.

The club is a business at the end of the day, and will have a business model which the management believe will deliver long-term, sustainable success. It may be that our 'fans' version of success is different to the management's version - ours is to spend gazzillions, win the premier league and then the champions' league, while theirs is to have a team that punches above it's weight, due to getting as many things right as possible (such as the training and youth system, the manager), but doesn't dress above it's shoe size. I would love the former, but I am also realistic enough to know that the latter is better.

Some people say that KL should sell the club to someone who does want to invest, but who would that be? The ones who have invested that kind of money in teams have done so in teams with the potential for much bigger regular crowds and international fanbases than ours. We may beat Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea, City, Arsenal from time, but we are NEVER going to match their earning potential. So, it makes no sense to aspire to match them.

We don't know what the club are doing behind the scenes, but one thing we can be certain of is that they know we need to strengthen the squad, they know the type of players we need, and they are doing their best to get them, within our business model. All we can do as fans is hope that they do this right; we can't really affect it.

We can also be a bit patient.

And those calling for more openness can ask those like Seedhouse who run businesses about how sensible it is to discuss your plans in public with potential competitors listening, rather than dealing in private and announcing deals when they are done.

I think this is going to be a chuffing great season!
Quite right, too, Tony.

In the mad, mad world of chocolate, I'm a Snicker man (oh, alright, 'Marathon'). When I feel peckish, I like nothing better. Even when I don't want chocolate, if I'm in a shop and I see a stack of Marathons, I sort of look at them as if they're mine. It's comforting to see them, in the same way that it's a bit comforting to spot a Saints top when you're on holiday in, say, Spain. Passing a Mars lorry is a bit like passing a car with a Saints' scarf flying out the window when travelling to away matches. Yep, through Marathon/Snicker bars, Mars and I have a bond which goes beyond the normal **** for chocolate.

The funny thing is, I've not once written to Mars demanding that they change packaging because it's the wrong colour or that they spend more on better quality chocolate and less on advertising, nor have I demanded to see their accounts, even though a little portion of their profit came from my purchases.

I know supporting Saints and buying chocolate isn't the same thing, but I do realise that there are some things I can - and have a right to - change, and there are some things which I have to put up with, like that naff tabac down the road who only stocks friggin Milo stuff ... 'parce que
il est produire à Strasbourg, monsieur, PAH!'

I want to see Saints crowned champions of Europe as much as the next person but won't blame anyone at the club when it doesn't happen, just as I won't stop supporting Saints if the quality of player drops or the results are poor.

Mind you, if Katharina got a multi-million sponsorship deal out of Mars ..................
But you can buy shares in Mars if you're interested in their financial performance. And they will run focus groups to see what their customers think of their brand, it's packaging, taste etc. They will monitor customer opinions very carefully and adjust to suit. That is what customer oriented businesses do.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: Couple of things - all those saying "it's about time WE started spending OUR money" should remember that it's not OUR money, it's KL's money. It's incredibly easy to demand money be spent when it isn't ours, and in my opinion not terribly helpful. The club is a business at the end of the day, and will have a business model which the management believe will deliver long-term, sustainable success. It may be that our 'fans' version of success is different to the management's version - ours is to spend gazzillions, win the premier league and then the champions' league, while theirs is to have a team that punches above it's weight, due to getting as many things right as possible (such as the training and youth system, the manager), but doesn't dress above it's shoe size. I would love the former, but I am also realistic enough to know that the latter is better. Some people say that KL should sell the club to someone who does want to invest, but who would that be? The ones who have invested that kind of money in teams have done so in teams with the potential for much bigger regular crowds and international fanbases than ours. We may beat Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea, City, Arsenal from time, but we are NEVER going to match their earning potential. So, it makes no sense to aspire to match them. We don't know what the club are doing behind the scenes, but one thing we can be certain of is that they know we need to strengthen the squad, they know the type of players we need, and they are doing their best to get them, within our business model. All we can do as fans is hope that they do this right; we can't really affect it. We can also be a bit patient. And those calling for more openness can ask those like Seedhouse who run businesses about how sensible it is to discuss your plans in public with potential competitors listening, rather than dealing in private and announcing deals when they are done. I think this is going to be a chuffing great season![/p][/quote]Quite right, too, Tony. In the mad, mad world of chocolate, I'm a Snicker man (oh, alright, 'Marathon'). When I feel peckish, I like nothing better. Even when I don't want chocolate, if I'm in a shop and I see a stack of Marathons, I sort of look at them as if they're mine. It's comforting to see them, in the same way that it's a bit comforting to spot a Saints top when you're on holiday in, say, Spain. Passing a Mars lorry is a bit like passing a car with a Saints' scarf flying out the window when travelling to away matches. Yep, through Marathon/Snicker bars, Mars and I have a bond which goes beyond the normal **** for chocolate. The funny thing is, I've not once written to Mars demanding that they change packaging because it's the wrong colour or that they spend more on better quality chocolate and less on advertising, nor have I demanded to see their accounts, even though a little portion of their profit came from my purchases. I know supporting Saints and buying chocolate isn't the same thing, but I do realise that there are some things I can - and have a right to - change, and there are some things which I have to put up with, like that naff tabac down the road who only stocks friggin Milo stuff ... 'parce que il est produire à Strasbourg, monsieur, PAH!' I want to see Saints crowned champions of Europe as much as the next person but won't blame anyone at the club when it doesn't happen, just as I won't stop supporting Saints if the quality of player drops or the results are poor. Mind you, if Katharina got a multi-million sponsorship deal out of Mars ..................[/p][/quote]But you can buy shares in Mars if you're interested in their financial performance. And they will run focus groups to see what their customers think of their brand, it's packaging, taste etc. They will monitor customer opinions very carefully and adjust to suit. That is what customer oriented businesses do. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 3

2:55pm Fri 18 Jul 14

andygoater1957 says...

SodburySaint93 wrote:
I wonder why the 2nd "big team" friendly was cancelled and we went to play 2 teams of part-timers in Belgium/Holland.

Could we not find anyone to play us ? or Did Ron want to be close to Eriedivisie players who he may want to sign (maybe doing quiet business outside of the glare of the British media) ?
It never got started
[quote][p][bold]SodburySaint93[/bold] wrote: I wonder why the 2nd "big team" friendly was cancelled and we went to play 2 teams of part-timers in Belgium/Holland. Could we not find anyone to play us ? or Did Ron want to be close to Eriedivisie players who he may want to sign (maybe doing quiet business outside of the glare of the British media) ?[/p][/quote]It never got started andygoater1957
  • Score: 2

3:15pm Fri 18 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Tony in Liberia wrote:
Couple of things - all those saying "it's about time WE started spending OUR money" should remember that it's not OUR money, it's KL's money. It's incredibly easy to demand money be spent when it isn't ours, and in my opinion not terribly helpful.

The club is a business at the end of the day, and will have a business model which the management believe will deliver long-term, sustainable success. It may be that our 'fans' version of success is different to the management's version - ours is to spend gazzillions, win the premier league and then the champions' league, while theirs is to have a team that punches above it's weight, due to getting as many things right as possible (such as the training and youth system, the manager), but doesn't dress above it's shoe size. I would love the former, but I am also realistic enough to know that the latter is better.

Some people say that KL should sell the club to someone who does want to invest, but who would that be? The ones who have invested that kind of money in teams have done so in teams with the potential for much bigger regular crowds and international fanbases than ours. We may beat Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea, City, Arsenal from time, but we are NEVER going to match their earning potential. So, it makes no sense to aspire to match them.

We don't know what the club are doing behind the scenes, but one thing we can be certain of is that they know we need to strengthen the squad, they know the type of players we need, and they are doing their best to get them, within our business model. All we can do as fans is hope that they do this right; we can't really affect it.

We can also be a bit patient.

And those calling for more openness can ask those like Seedhouse who run businesses about how sensible it is to discuss your plans in public with potential competitors listening, rather than dealing in private and announcing deals when they are done.

I think this is going to be a chuffing great season!
Quite right, too, Tony.

In the mad, mad world of chocolate, I'm a Snicker man (oh, alright, 'Marathon'). When I feel peckish, I like nothing better. Even when I don't want chocolate, if I'm in a shop and I see a stack of Marathons, I sort of look at them as if they're mine. It's comforting to see them, in the same way that it's a bit comforting to spot a Saints top when you're on holiday in, say, Spain. Passing a Mars lorry is a bit like passing a car with a Saints' scarf flying out the window when travelling to away matches. Yep, through Marathon/Snicker bars, Mars and I have a bond which goes beyond the normal **** for chocolate.

The funny thing is, I've not once written to Mars demanding that they change packaging because it's the wrong colour or that they spend more on better quality chocolate and less on advertising, nor have I demanded to see their accounts, even though a little portion of their profit came from my purchases.

I know supporting Saints and buying chocolate isn't the same thing, but I do realise that there are some things I can - and have a right to - change, and there are some things which I have to put up with, like that naff tabac down the road who only stocks friggin Milo stuff ... 'parce que
il est produire à Strasbourg, monsieur, PAH!'

I want to see Saints crowned champions of Europe as much as the next person but won't blame anyone at the club when it doesn't happen, just as I won't stop supporting Saints if the quality of player drops or the results are poor.

Mind you, if Katharina got a multi-million sponsorship deal out of Mars ..................
More chance of getting one from Uranus.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: Couple of things - all those saying "it's about time WE started spending OUR money" should remember that it's not OUR money, it's KL's money. It's incredibly easy to demand money be spent when it isn't ours, and in my opinion not terribly helpful. The club is a business at the end of the day, and will have a business model which the management believe will deliver long-term, sustainable success. It may be that our 'fans' version of success is different to the management's version - ours is to spend gazzillions, win the premier league and then the champions' league, while theirs is to have a team that punches above it's weight, due to getting as many things right as possible (such as the training and youth system, the manager), but doesn't dress above it's shoe size. I would love the former, but I am also realistic enough to know that the latter is better. Some people say that KL should sell the club to someone who does want to invest, but who would that be? The ones who have invested that kind of money in teams have done so in teams with the potential for much bigger regular crowds and international fanbases than ours. We may beat Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea, City, Arsenal from time, but we are NEVER going to match their earning potential. So, it makes no sense to aspire to match them. We don't know what the club are doing behind the scenes, but one thing we can be certain of is that they know we need to strengthen the squad, they know the type of players we need, and they are doing their best to get them, within our business model. All we can do as fans is hope that they do this right; we can't really affect it. We can also be a bit patient. And those calling for more openness can ask those like Seedhouse who run businesses about how sensible it is to discuss your plans in public with potential competitors listening, rather than dealing in private and announcing deals when they are done. I think this is going to be a chuffing great season![/p][/quote]Quite right, too, Tony. In the mad, mad world of chocolate, I'm a Snicker man (oh, alright, 'Marathon'). When I feel peckish, I like nothing better. Even when I don't want chocolate, if I'm in a shop and I see a stack of Marathons, I sort of look at them as if they're mine. It's comforting to see them, in the same way that it's a bit comforting to spot a Saints top when you're on holiday in, say, Spain. Passing a Mars lorry is a bit like passing a car with a Saints' scarf flying out the window when travelling to away matches. Yep, through Marathon/Snicker bars, Mars and I have a bond which goes beyond the normal **** for chocolate. The funny thing is, I've not once written to Mars demanding that they change packaging because it's the wrong colour or that they spend more on better quality chocolate and less on advertising, nor have I demanded to see their accounts, even though a little portion of their profit came from my purchases. I know supporting Saints and buying chocolate isn't the same thing, but I do realise that there are some things I can - and have a right to - change, and there are some things which I have to put up with, like that naff tabac down the road who only stocks friggin Milo stuff ... 'parce que il est produire à Strasbourg, monsieur, PAH!' I want to see Saints crowned champions of Europe as much as the next person but won't blame anyone at the club when it doesn't happen, just as I won't stop supporting Saints if the quality of player drops or the results are poor. Mind you, if Katharina got a multi-million sponsorship deal out of Mars ..................[/p][/quote]More chance of getting one from Uranus. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 4

3:27pm Fri 18 Jul 14

right back in the bar says...

Churchill Saint wrote:
the usual suspect moaners and WUMs are out in force today. Its amazing how short people's memories are considering what happened to that lot down the road.
My opinion on Caulker is that we did inquire and would have paid the asking price. However, QPR have offered better player terms and so he'll join QPR. We should never break our salary structure to get an individual player in. If QPR wants to pay him more, he should go there and we move on. I hope Tony Fernandes has got his sums right. A team managed by Rednapp paying over the top wages to attract stars has a very familiar ring about it.
Why are the moaners complaining about lack of Saints transfer activity? Just because there are no announcements doesn't mean nothing is happening in the background. I would guess that the whole management team are currently involved is numerous opportunities. You don't need a Harvard MBA to understand that if you let your intentions known you weaken your negotiating position. Keep it quiet until the deal is done and then announce it; as a fan I'm prepared to wait. I also believe that RK is targeting some World Cup players who are still on holiday for another week. He may well be targeting Ron Vlarr, for example, but nothing's going to happen until he's back from hols.
Agree with what you say about Caulker and paying him too much. But if it is true we offered £3m for Redmond I think that's stupid. Norwich wouldn't take us seriously and we wouldn't even have a chance to negotiate a fee. And its not just transfer business is it? Why haven't we secured Jack Cork's services? If he wants more money he's entitled to it; this is a player who made massive contribution to re-establishing us as a premiership side.
Vlarr would be good and if it transpires I hope the offer is sensible, and the club is prepared to flex a bit, because there are plenty of other clubs that will.
[quote][p][bold]Churchill Saint[/bold] wrote: the usual suspect moaners and WUMs are out in force today. Its amazing how short people's memories are considering what happened to that lot down the road. My opinion on Caulker is that we did inquire and would have paid the asking price. However, QPR have offered better player terms and so he'll join QPR. We should never break our salary structure to get an individual player in. If QPR wants to pay him more, he should go there and we move on. I hope Tony Fernandes has got his sums right. A team managed by Rednapp paying over the top wages to attract stars has a very familiar ring about it. Why are the moaners complaining about lack of Saints transfer activity? Just because there are no announcements doesn't mean nothing is happening in the background. I would guess that the whole management team are currently involved is numerous opportunities. You don't need a Harvard MBA to understand that if you let your intentions known you weaken your negotiating position. Keep it quiet until the deal is done and then announce it; as a fan I'm prepared to wait. I also believe that RK is targeting some World Cup players who are still on holiday for another week. He may well be targeting Ron Vlarr, for example, but nothing's going to happen until he's back from hols.[/p][/quote]Agree with what you say about Caulker and paying him too much. But if it is true we offered £3m for Redmond I think that's stupid. Norwich wouldn't take us seriously and we wouldn't even have a chance to negotiate a fee. And its not just transfer business is it? Why haven't we secured Jack Cork's services? If he wants more money he's entitled to it; this is a player who made massive contribution to re-establishing us as a premiership side. Vlarr would be good and if it transpires I hope the offer is sensible, and the club is prepared to flex a bit, because there are plenty of other clubs that will. right back in the bar
  • Score: 5

3:39pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Sainty saint saint says...

Personally I think it's a jolly wise decision to allow a new manager to see what he's actually got before p***ing money all over the market in the hope of hitting someone decent.

I think Man Utd (arguably our nearest competitor last season?) are doing a similar thing - they've only signed a couple of players (I think!) and Van Gaal is now assessing his squad before entering the market... Why is it so wrong to let Ron do the same?

Maybe he's targeting a couple of 'big' signings but wants to know where to focus his attention before spending any more money? I don't know...
Personally I think it's a jolly wise decision to allow a new manager to see what he's actually got before p***ing money all over the market in the hope of hitting someone decent. I think Man Utd (arguably our nearest competitor last season?) are doing a similar thing - they've only signed a couple of players (I think!) and Van Gaal is now assessing his squad before entering the market... Why is it so wrong to let Ron do the same? Maybe he's targeting a couple of 'big' signings but wants to know where to focus his attention before spending any more money? I don't know... Sainty saint saint
  • Score: 10

3:46pm Fri 18 Jul 14

elvis says...

Gosh all this fuss over Caulker ok he's good but not that good , one half decent season in a side that is relegated doesn't make you world class.
Besides it's only paper gossip that we were ever interested ,if we're going to buy a cb or 2 It's more likely to be the 2 lads from Feyonord ,Villas Dutch cb (who Twitchy is also suppose to be sniffing around ) or the lad at Celtic ,all of whom are probably better suited to us than Caulker x
Gosh all this fuss over Caulker ok he's good but not that good , one half decent season in a side that is relegated doesn't make you world class. Besides it's only paper gossip that we were ever interested ,if we're going to buy a cb or 2 It's more likely to be the 2 lads from Feyonord ,Villas Dutch cb (who Twitchy is also suppose to be sniffing around ) or the lad at Celtic ,all of whom are probably better suited to us than Caulker x elvis
  • Score: 9

3:48pm Fri 18 Jul 14

lowe esteem says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
This is who we should be trying to sign but no action from us.wheres all the millions? Offering 3million for Redmond.what a joke.lets go and buy a cheap foreign mercenarie,don't worry les is already onto it.
What and have a club £177 million in debt like Rebnobs, whilst they offer average players like Calker £100 k a week ......... The next P'muff !!

No thanks run our club properly and have a future thanks you !!!!
Suddenly everyone's an accountant and very concerned we don't spend kats money.didnt hear anyone mention it when we were flying high buying world class players.theres a difference between prudence and lack of ambition.if we are only prepared to pay certain prices then we can only bid for players that fall into that price range.i believe we are looking at the bottom to middle range player.i am all for integration of youth but our squad is way to young.too many untested young players who need to be drip fed into the team and not overplayed or destroyed by a hammering.ever banega was mentioned again and his signing would show ambition,he is quality.i just believe that saints are shopping with the small change from all of the money.
Where's Ralph?
You can't have it both ways, 2 -Ply!

You never told us plebs that we were previously buying World Class players before, so we assumed we weren't!

Change your user name to St Mary, Mary quite contrary -or perhaps Knob For The Sake Of It.
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: This is who we should be trying to sign but no action from us.wheres all the millions? Offering 3million for Redmond.what a joke.lets go and buy a cheap foreign mercenarie,don't worry les is already onto it.[/p][/quote]What and have a club £177 million in debt like Rebnobs, whilst they offer average players like Calker £100 k a week ......... The next P'muff !! No thanks run our club properly and have a future thanks you !!!![/p][/quote]Suddenly everyone's an accountant and very concerned we don't spend kats money.didnt hear anyone mention it when we were flying high buying world class players.theres a difference between prudence and lack of ambition.if we are only prepared to pay certain prices then we can only bid for players that fall into that price range.i believe we are looking at the bottom to middle range player.i am all for integration of youth but our squad is way to young.too many untested young players who need to be drip fed into the team and not overplayed or destroyed by a hammering.ever banega was mentioned again and his signing would show ambition,he is quality.i just believe that saints are shopping with the small change from all of the money. Where's Ralph?[/p][/quote]You can't have it both ways, 2 -Ply! You never told us plebs that we were previously buying World Class players before, so we assumed we weren't! Change your user name to St Mary, Mary quite contrary -or perhaps Knob For The Sake Of It. lowe esteem
  • Score: 6

3:50pm Fri 18 Jul 14

echo1948 says...

I,ve been reading all the comments on here with a great deal of interest. But it still seems that the majority of posters still think that we are going to have a team which will be serious top 6 contenders next season. Unfortunately, there is no way you can get new players in, and gel them into a playing unit in 4 weeks. As I have been saying for weeks now, we will end up playing the kids and hoping they are up to the job,which I serious doubt, and that we do not have to spend any more transfer money.As a supporter of some55 years I hope that I am wrong.
I,ve been reading all the comments on here with a great deal of interest. But it still seems that the majority of posters still think that we are going to have a team which will be serious top 6 contenders next season. Unfortunately, there is no way you can get new players in, and gel them into a playing unit in 4 weeks. As I have been saying for weeks now, we will end up playing the kids and hoping they are up to the job,which I serious doubt, and that we do not have to spend any more transfer money.As a supporter of some55 years I hope that I am wrong. echo1948
  • Score: 11

3:51pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Sussex Jay says...

sadly I can't see anymore then 2more new players till first game,then maybe a few more b4 the window shuts,like others have said our rivals have signed players that r playing in there friendlies that will shape there season. I'm worried by this but one thing is for sure it's going to get worse b4 it gets better,the 1st 10 games will shape our season and I feel it will be a real struggle sadly . Gutting to see other players choose the likes of qpr Stoke and newcastle villa etc
sadly I can't see anymore then 2more new players till first game,then maybe a few more b4 the window shuts,like others have said our rivals have signed players that r playing in there friendlies that will shape there season. I'm worried by this but one thing is for sure it's going to get worse b4 it gets better,the 1st 10 games will shape our season and I feel it will be a real struggle sadly . Gutting to see other players choose the likes of qpr Stoke and newcastle villa etc Sussex Jay
  • Score: -4

3:53pm Fri 18 Jul 14

lowe esteem says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London.
Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.
Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle.

For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?
seed we bid the same amount as qpr and palace but itlooks like caulker is going to choose qpr. nothing to do with the money we bid or reeds `persuasiveness`.
qpr lost £65m in a season, had a £68m wage bill that exceeded their entire turnover, and were £177m in debt.
that's a season in the championship not the prem! that's bound to go up this season with the addition of rio, who will want a huge wage, and others.
we may not pay enough wages but how can we compete with a club that is willing to overspend to that degree. we may have offered caulker a decent enough wage for his age and ability but we all know that redkrapp is just going to offer anything to get the player, he doesn't care where the money comes from or how much debt he runs up.
the prems FFP wont affect qpr as its their owner can pay any fine they may get or will find a way of ploughing money into the club to get round those rules, they wont bother trying to comply with uefa`s ffp rules as they know they wont qualify for Europe this season.
this is what happens when you have an owner who is happy to throw away huge amounts of money and a manager with a history of spending clubs broke.
being a young centre back would you rather pick a team because they are willing to pay a lot more than anyone else or pick a team who pay less money but have a top quality, world class, big name, former centre back as their manager? a manager that you will be able to learn so much from and will probably make you a far better player? well if caulker goes to qpr then there is only one reason why.

on a different note,

" Suddenly everyone's an accountant and very concerned we don't spend kats money. didnt hear anyone mention it when we were flying high buying world class players"

does anyone else know when we were `flying high` and spending `kats money` on `world class players`?
funny she only took over ownership late last year and the only window we could have spent `her` money in was the jan window this year when we didn't spend anything! prior to her taking over the club was held in a trust set up by ST Markus and ran by NC. I`m still struggling though to find any `world class` players we have signed. Osvaldo? no dropped from the Italian squad. Gaston? no. good player but not world class. Big Vic? same as gaston. mayuka? really? J-rod? not yet but possible and he cost less than our bid for caulker! dejan? great player but a world class kn0b. anyone I`ve missed out?
We have to stop making excuses and accept the Premier League as it is and compete in it. Otherwise why are we in it?

I've heard the excuses as to why we can't retain our homegrown talent. I've heard the excuses as to why we can't tempt young talent from elsewhere to come here.

I think we all need to wake up and smell the coffee before it's too late.
I'm all for seeing how RK gets on with his new squad next season, we've taken about FIVE mighty steps forward, and are only just wavering into our FIRST backward step, so we have to do better than survive relegation after the mutinous boat-rocking and allow the board to mature with the rest of us. Think your reality check may be a little out of step with mine Seed, even though we both want the best for Saints.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London. Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.[/p][/quote]Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle. For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?[/p][/quote]seed we bid the same amount as qpr and palace but itlooks like caulker is going to choose qpr. nothing to do with the money we bid or reeds `persuasiveness`. qpr lost £65m in a season, had a £68m wage bill that exceeded their entire turnover, and were £177m in debt. that's a season in the championship not the prem! that's bound to go up this season with the addition of rio, who will want a huge wage, and others. we may not pay enough wages but how can we compete with a club that is willing to overspend to that degree. we may have offered caulker a decent enough wage for his age and ability but we all know that redkrapp is just going to offer anything to get the player, he doesn't care where the money comes from or how much debt he runs up. the prems FFP wont affect qpr as its their owner can pay any fine they may get or will find a way of ploughing money into the club to get round those rules, they wont bother trying to comply with uefa`s ffp rules as they know they wont qualify for Europe this season. this is what happens when you have an owner who is happy to throw away huge amounts of money and a manager with a history of spending clubs broke. being a young centre back would you rather pick a team because they are willing to pay a lot more than anyone else or pick a team who pay less money but have a top quality, world class, big name, former centre back as their manager? a manager that you will be able to learn so much from and will probably make you a far better player? well if caulker goes to qpr then there is only one reason why. on a different note, " Suddenly everyone's an accountant and very concerned we don't spend kats money. didnt hear anyone mention it when we were flying high buying world class players" does anyone else know when we were `flying high` and spending `kats money` on `world class players`? funny she only took over ownership late last year and the only window we could have spent `her` money in was the jan window this year when we didn't spend anything! prior to her taking over the club was held in a trust set up by ST Markus and ran by NC. I`m still struggling though to find any `world class` players we have signed. Osvaldo? no dropped from the Italian squad. Gaston? no. good player but not world class. Big Vic? same as gaston. mayuka? really? J-rod? not yet but possible and he cost less than our bid for caulker! dejan? great player but a world class kn0b. anyone I`ve missed out?[/p][/quote]We have to stop making excuses and accept the Premier League as it is and compete in it. Otherwise why are we in it? I've heard the excuses as to why we can't retain our homegrown talent. I've heard the excuses as to why we can't tempt young talent from elsewhere to come here. I think we all need to wake up and smell the coffee before it's too late.[/p][/quote]I'm all for seeing how RK gets on with his new squad next season, we've taken about FIVE mighty steps forward, and are only just wavering into our FIRST backward step, so we have to do better than survive relegation after the mutinous boat-rocking and allow the board to mature with the rest of us. Think your reality check may be a little out of step with mine Seed, even though we both want the best for Saints. lowe esteem
  • Score: 9

4:16pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Buddy SFC says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
Christ, you lot. We're clearly going to sign more players and some of them will be bloody good. It's going to happen. Stop worrying. Go and sit in a beer garden and drink some cider or something.
An educated comment !

Spot on , just heading down the pub now, for that Cider !!
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: Christ, you lot. We're clearly going to sign more players and some of them will be bloody good. It's going to happen. Stop worrying. Go and sit in a beer garden and drink some cider or something.[/p][/quote]An educated comment ! Spot on , just heading down the pub now, for that Cider !! Buddy SFC
  • Score: 4

4:39pm Fri 18 Jul 14

redsnapper says...

Buy buy buy. Give Ron a chance, he.s only had the players for a week and Guly has gone so why the panic..??
Buy buy buy. Give Ron a chance, he.s only had the players for a week and Guly has gone so why the panic..?? redsnapper
  • Score: 3

4:44pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

contric wrote:
can anyone on here tell me how long it takes to walk from millbrook railway station to bat in regents park road any informationwill be gratefully received
Its a long way back to the pavilion,if you get out first ball.
[quote][p][bold]contric[/bold] wrote: can anyone on here tell me how long it takes to walk from millbrook railway station to bat in regents park road any informationwill be gratefully received[/p][/quote]Its a long way back to the pavilion,if you get out first ball. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 4

4:47pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

lowe esteem wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London.
Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.
Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle.

For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?
seed we bid the same amount as qpr and palace but itlooks like caulker is going to choose qpr. nothing to do with the money we bid or reeds `persuasiveness`.
qpr lost £65m in a season, had a £68m wage bill that exceeded their entire turnover, and were £177m in debt.
that's a season in the championship not the prem! that's bound to go up this season with the addition of rio, who will want a huge wage, and others.
we may not pay enough wages but how can we compete with a club that is willing to overspend to that degree. we may have offered caulker a decent enough wage for his age and ability but we all know that redkrapp is just going to offer anything to get the player, he doesn't care where the money comes from or how much debt he runs up.
the prems FFP wont affect qpr as its their owner can pay any fine they may get or will find a way of ploughing money into the club to get round those rules, they wont bother trying to comply with uefa`s ffp rules as they know they wont qualify for Europe this season.
this is what happens when you have an owner who is happy to throw away huge amounts of money and a manager with a history of spending clubs broke.
being a young centre back would you rather pick a team because they are willing to pay a lot more than anyone else or pick a team who pay less money but have a top quality, world class, big name, former centre back as their manager? a manager that you will be able to learn so much from and will probably make you a far better player? well if caulker goes to qpr then there is only one reason why.

on a different note,

" Suddenly everyone's an accountant and very concerned we don't spend kats money. didnt hear anyone mention it when we were flying high buying world class players"

does anyone else know when we were `flying high` and spending `kats money` on `world class players`?
funny she only took over ownership late last year and the only window we could have spent `her` money in was the jan window this year when we didn't spend anything! prior to her taking over the club was held in a trust set up by ST Markus and ran by NC. I`m still struggling though to find any `world class` players we have signed. Osvaldo? no dropped from the Italian squad. Gaston? no. good player but not world class. Big Vic? same as gaston. mayuka? really? J-rod? not yet but possible and he cost less than our bid for caulker! dejan? great player but a world class kn0b. anyone I`ve missed out?
We have to stop making excuses and accept the Premier League as it is and compete in it. Otherwise why are we in it?

I've heard the excuses as to why we can't retain our homegrown talent. I've heard the excuses as to why we can't tempt young talent from elsewhere to come here.

I think we all need to wake up and smell the coffee before it's too late.
I'm all for seeing how RK gets on with his new squad next season, we've taken about FIVE mighty steps forward, and are only just wavering into our FIRST backward step, so we have to do better than survive relegation after the mutinous boat-rocking and allow the board to mature with the rest of us. Think your reality check may be a little out of step with mine Seed, even though we both want the best for Saints.
We do and I hope it all goes well. The thing that concerns me is that we don't seem to have handled things well since Cortese p!ssed off. The board appointments weren't inspiring and they made some very odd statements. Ron took an eternity to appoint even though it was well known that MoPo might leave at the end of the season so we appeared to be caught with our pants down as we were with the exodus of players -which might not be finished yet. Two good signings, both Ron's, is all we have to show for a squad that needed strengthening before the final whistle so where are all the players who declared an interest in coming here?

I have a lot of faith in Ron but he needs support from the board and they don't inspire me. So many seem to be saying 'it will be alright on the night' which strikes me as more based on hope rather than analytical judgement of what is unveiling before us.
[quote][p][bold]lowe esteem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London. Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.[/p][/quote]Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle. For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?[/p][/quote]seed we bid the same amount as qpr and palace but itlooks like caulker is going to choose qpr. nothing to do with the money we bid or reeds `persuasiveness`. qpr lost £65m in a season, had a £68m wage bill that exceeded their entire turnover, and were £177m in debt. that's a season in the championship not the prem! that's bound to go up this season with the addition of rio, who will want a huge wage, and others. we may not pay enough wages but how can we compete with a club that is willing to overspend to that degree. we may have offered caulker a decent enough wage for his age and ability but we all know that redkrapp is just going to offer anything to get the player, he doesn't care where the money comes from or how much debt he runs up. the prems FFP wont affect qpr as its their owner can pay any fine they may get or will find a way of ploughing money into the club to get round those rules, they wont bother trying to comply with uefa`s ffp rules as they know they wont qualify for Europe this season. this is what happens when you have an owner who is happy to throw away huge amounts of money and a manager with a history of spending clubs broke. being a young centre back would you rather pick a team because they are willing to pay a lot more than anyone else or pick a team who pay less money but have a top quality, world class, big name, former centre back as their manager? a manager that you will be able to learn so much from and will probably make you a far better player? well if caulker goes to qpr then there is only one reason why. on a different note, " Suddenly everyone's an accountant and very concerned we don't spend kats money. didnt hear anyone mention it when we were flying high buying world class players" does anyone else know when we were `flying high` and spending `kats money` on `world class players`? funny she only took over ownership late last year and the only window we could have spent `her` money in was the jan window this year when we didn't spend anything! prior to her taking over the club was held in a trust set up by ST Markus and ran by NC. I`m still struggling though to find any `world class` players we have signed. Osvaldo? no dropped from the Italian squad. Gaston? no. good player but not world class. Big Vic? same as gaston. mayuka? really? J-rod? not yet but possible and he cost less than our bid for caulker! dejan? great player but a world class kn0b. anyone I`ve missed out?[/p][/quote]We have to stop making excuses and accept the Premier League as it is and compete in it. Otherwise why are we in it? I've heard the excuses as to why we can't retain our homegrown talent. I've heard the excuses as to why we can't tempt young talent from elsewhere to come here. I think we all need to wake up and smell the coffee before it's too late.[/p][/quote]I'm all for seeing how RK gets on with his new squad next season, we've taken about FIVE mighty steps forward, and are only just wavering into our FIRST backward step, so we have to do better than survive relegation after the mutinous boat-rocking and allow the board to mature with the rest of us. Think your reality check may be a little out of step with mine Seed, even though we both want the best for Saints.[/p][/quote]We do and I hope it all goes well. The thing that concerns me is that we don't seem to have handled things well since Cortese p!ssed off. The board appointments weren't inspiring and they made some very odd statements. Ron took an eternity to appoint even though it was well known that MoPo might leave at the end of the season so we appeared to be caught with our pants down as we were with the exodus of players -which might not be finished yet. Two good signings, both Ron's, is all we have to show for a squad that needed strengthening before the final whistle so where are all the players who declared an interest in coming here? I have a lot of faith in Ron but he needs support from the board and they don't inspire me. So many seem to be saying 'it will be alright on the night' which strikes me as more based on hope rather than analytical judgement of what is unveiling before us. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -2

4:55pm Fri 18 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Knackers wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London.
Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.
Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle.

For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?
seed we bid the same amount as qpr and palace but itlooks like caulker is going to choose qpr. nothing to do with the money we bid or reeds `persuasiveness`.
qpr lost £65m in a season, had a £68m wage bill that exceeded their entire turnover, and were £177m in debt.
that's a season in the championship not the prem! that's bound to go up this season with the addition of rio, who will want a huge wage, and others.
we may not pay enough wages but how can we compete with a club that is willing to overspend to that degree. we may have offered caulker a decent enough wage for his age and ability but we all know that redkrapp is just going to offer anything to get the player, he doesn't care where the money comes from or how much debt he runs up.
the prems FFP wont affect qpr as its their owner can pay any fine they may get or will find a way of ploughing money into the club to get round those rules, they wont bother trying to comply with uefa`s ffp rules as they know they wont qualify for Europe this season.
this is what happens when you have an owner who is happy to throw away huge amounts of money and a manager with a history of spending clubs broke.
being a young centre back would you rather pick a team because they are willing to pay a lot more than anyone else or pick a team who pay less money but have a top quality, world class, big name, former centre back as their manager? a manager that you will be able to learn so much from and will probably make you a far better player? well if caulker goes to qpr then there is only one reason why.

on a different note,

" Suddenly everyone's an accountant and very concerned we don't spend kats money. didnt hear anyone mention it when we were flying high buying world class players"

does anyone else know when we were `flying high` and spending `kats money` on `world class players`?
funny she only took over ownership late last year and the only window we could have spent `her` money in was the jan window this year when we didn't spend anything! prior to her taking over the club was held in a trust set up by ST Markus and ran by NC. I`m still struggling though to find any `world class` players we have signed. Osvaldo? no dropped from the Italian squad. Gaston? no. good player but not world class. Big Vic? same as gaston. mayuka? really? J-rod? not yet but possible and he cost less than our bid for caulker! dejan? great player but a world class kn0b. anyone I`ve missed out?
Yes lovren and gaston just played at the WORLD CUP hence WORLD CLASS players.judging by your comment about us not spending kats money you think she is asset stripping? Very negative and undermining.you do not know for sure and here you are spreading discord amongst true saints fans.go on your own site.
you forgot morgan, he played at the world cup o must be world class.
how about Mohammad Reza Khanzadeh who plays for Zob Ahan Isfahan? he was at the world cup with iran is he world class, how about the rest of their squad?
your mistaking world class players with players with players who have played in the world cup.
gigs, best and bale are/were they world class players? they haven't played in the world cup so I`m not sure!

I don't know why you think I have suggested she is `asset stripping`, the facts prove otherwise by the way. so where have I said she is `asset stripping` then? is it because I pointed out that we didn't spend any money in the only previous window she has been the owner of the club? she took over ownership last autumn and its not her decision to buy players, that's the managers, director of football and chairmans decision. the manager (mp) didn't want to buy and now we know why! since them £30mill has been spent on the training ground, so still nt asset stripping then!

your pathetic wind up comments about me being negative and undermining are just laughable!
what don't I know for sure? come on let me know.
fact KL took over ownership of the club last autumn.
fact after st markus died the club was basically `intestate` meaning there was no owner.
fact st markus setup a trust to run the club after his death, which was run by NC as was the club so NC answered to himself and didn't have to justify his spending!
fact we have brought 2 good replacements for the players we sold costing just under £20mill, how is that asset stripping?

you see the difference between me and the likes of Sammynobrains and his other logins is that I use facts! I have stated that I think we will bring in more quality players and am excited about the new season under our great new manager. so where is the negativity? where is the discord? who am I undermining? what is my own site?
you on the other hand wouldn't know a true saints fan if one came up and introduced himself to you!
just for your information I have just spent the afternoon sat in SMS, pitch looks great but our new led floodlights aren't up yet, though they were working on them. why you ask was I there? well there was a world record breaking attempt in there today, 2600 odd ukuleles being played at the same time. one of those was my daughter and I couldn't turn up the chance to go and watch, and have a nose around the ground to see how it looks. I was sat there proudly in my saints colours.

I suggest that if you want to try and WUM me again you use facts and figures that are published and well known! or you will do the same as you just have and make yourself look stupid and a fool again! have fun at Exeter!
[quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London. Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.[/p][/quote]Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle. For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?[/p][/quote]seed we bid the same amount as qpr and palace but itlooks like caulker is going to choose qpr. nothing to do with the money we bid or reeds `persuasiveness`. qpr lost £65m in a season, had a £68m wage bill that exceeded their entire turnover, and were £177m in debt. that's a season in the championship not the prem! that's bound to go up this season with the addition of rio, who will want a huge wage, and others. we may not pay enough wages but how can we compete with a club that is willing to overspend to that degree. we may have offered caulker a decent enough wage for his age and ability but we all know that redkrapp is just going to offer anything to get the player, he doesn't care where the money comes from or how much debt he runs up. the prems FFP wont affect qpr as its their owner can pay any fine they may get or will find a way of ploughing money into the club to get round those rules, they wont bother trying to comply with uefa`s ffp rules as they know they wont qualify for Europe this season. this is what happens when you have an owner who is happy to throw away huge amounts of money and a manager with a history of spending clubs broke. being a young centre back would you rather pick a team because they are willing to pay a lot more than anyone else or pick a team who pay less money but have a top quality, world class, big name, former centre back as their manager? a manager that you will be able to learn so much from and will probably make you a far better player? well if caulker goes to qpr then there is only one reason why. on a different note, " Suddenly everyone's an accountant and very concerned we don't spend kats money. didnt hear anyone mention it when we were flying high buying world class players" does anyone else know when we were `flying high` and spending `kats money` on `world class players`? funny she only took over ownership late last year and the only window we could have spent `her` money in was the jan window this year when we didn't spend anything! prior to her taking over the club was held in a trust set up by ST Markus and ran by NC. I`m still struggling though to find any `world class` players we have signed. Osvaldo? no dropped from the Italian squad. Gaston? no. good player but not world class. Big Vic? same as gaston. mayuka? really? J-rod? not yet but possible and he cost less than our bid for caulker! dejan? great player but a world class kn0b. anyone I`ve missed out?[/p][/quote]Yes lovren and gaston just played at the WORLD CUP hence WORLD CLASS players.judging by your comment about us not spending kats money you think she is asset stripping? Very negative and undermining.you do not know for sure and here you are spreading discord amongst true saints fans.go on your own site.[/p][/quote]you forgot morgan, he played at the world cup o must be world class. how about Mohammad Reza Khanzadeh who plays for Zob Ahan Isfahan? he was at the world cup with iran is he world class, how about the rest of their squad? your mistaking world class players with players with players who have played in the world cup. gigs, best and bale are/were they world class players? they haven't played in the world cup so I`m not sure! I don't know why you think I have suggested she is `asset stripping`, the facts prove otherwise by the way. so where have I said she is `asset stripping` then? is it because I pointed out that we didn't spend any money in the only previous window she has been the owner of the club? she took over ownership last autumn and its not her decision to buy players, that's the managers, director of football and chairmans decision. the manager (mp) didn't want to buy and now we know why! since them £30mill has been spent on the training ground, so still nt asset stripping then! your pathetic wind up comments about me being negative and undermining are just laughable! what don't I know for sure? come on let me know. fact KL took over ownership of the club last autumn. fact after st markus died the club was basically `intestate` meaning there was no owner. fact st markus setup a trust to run the club after his death, which was run by NC as was the club so NC answered to himself and didn't have to justify his spending! fact we have brought 2 good replacements for the players we sold costing just under £20mill, how is that asset stripping? you see the difference between me and the likes of Sammynobrains and his other logins is that I use facts! I have stated that I think we will bring in more quality players and am excited about the new season under our great new manager. so where is the negativity? where is the discord? who am I undermining? what is my own site? you on the other hand wouldn't know a true saints fan if one came up and introduced himself to you! just for your information I have just spent the afternoon sat in SMS, pitch looks great but our new led floodlights aren't up yet, though they were working on them. why you ask was I there? well there was a world record breaking attempt in there today, 2600 odd ukuleles being played at the same time. one of those was my daughter and I couldn't turn up the chance to go and watch, and have a nose around the ground to see how it looks. I was sat there proudly in my saints colours. I suggest that if you want to try and WUM me again you use facts and figures that are published and well known! or you will do the same as you just have and make yourself look stupid and a fool again! have fun at Exeter! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 17

5:16pm Fri 18 Jul 14

echo1948 says...

Sussex Jay wrote:
sadly I can't see anymore then 2more new players till first game,then maybe a few more b4 the window shuts,like others have said our rivals have signed players that r playing in there friendlies that will shape there season. I'm worried by this but one thing is for sure it's going to get worse b4 it gets better,the 1st 10 games will shape our season and I feel it will be a real struggle sadly . Gutting to see other players choose the likes of qpr Stoke and newcastle villa etc
How right you are. Atlast someone who has taken off the rose tinted glasses.
[quote][p][bold]Sussex Jay[/bold] wrote: sadly I can't see anymore then 2more new players till first game,then maybe a few more b4 the window shuts,like others have said our rivals have signed players that r playing in there friendlies that will shape there season. I'm worried by this but one thing is for sure it's going to get worse b4 it gets better,the 1st 10 games will shape our season and I feel it will be a real struggle sadly . Gutting to see other players choose the likes of qpr Stoke and newcastle villa etc[/p][/quote]How right you are. Atlast someone who has taken off the rose tinted glasses. echo1948
  • Score: 1

5:16pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Invidia says...

There is something definitely amiss at St Mary's, the board have not communicated with the fans as Ralph stated they would, have we a PR director, I believe they were going to employ one, if they have, then when will he PR. As for Les Reed he has told untruths in the very scant statements he has made to date and it wold appear he is in charge in all football matters other than coaching and team selection which would account for our Achilles heel. I know that Football sport/business is different but it is certainly not unique. It is difficult to pin down who exactly is on the board as far as I can see it is KL, RK, LR, a solicitor (who I can't remember his name) and Martin somebody or other, now surely between them they should be able to fit in telling the fans what is going to be happening before the season starts. I know that they are very very busy doing their directoring but surely it would not take much to let us know that they are still employed and also just sprinkle some truth amid there statements, as so many on here have stated we are fast running out of time, we have more experience in these matters than the board that's for sure, this smacks of Rome burning whilst Les is fiddling
There is something definitely amiss at St Mary's, the board have not communicated with the fans as Ralph stated they would, have we a PR director, I believe they were going to employ one, if they have, then when will he PR. As for Les Reed he has told untruths in the very scant statements he has made to date and it wold appear he is in charge in all football matters other than coaching and team selection which would account for our Achilles heel. I know that Football sport/business is different but it is certainly not unique. It is difficult to pin down who exactly is on the board as far as I can see it is KL, RK, LR, a solicitor (who I can't remember his name) and Martin somebody or other, now surely between them they should be able to fit in telling the fans what is going to be happening before the season starts. I know that they are very very busy doing their directoring but surely it would not take much to let us know that they are still employed and also just sprinkle some truth amid there statements, as so many on here have stated we are fast running out of time, we have more experience in these matters than the board that's for sure, this smacks of Rome burning whilst Les is fiddling Invidia
  • Score: -2

5:27pm Fri 18 Jul 14

echo1948 says...

redsnapper wrote:
Buy buy buy. Give Ron a chance, he.s only had the players for a week and Guly has gone so why the panic..??
DOH! Cause there,s only 4 weeks ,til kick-off.
[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: Buy buy buy. Give Ron a chance, he.s only had the players for a week and Guly has gone so why the panic..??[/p][/quote]DOH! Cause there,s only 4 weeks ,til kick-off. echo1948
  • Score: -1

5:32pm Fri 18 Jul 14

echo1948 says...

redsnapper wrote:
Buy buy buy. Give Ron a chance, he.s only had the players for a week and Guly has gone so why the panic..??
DOH! Cause there,s only 4 weeks ,til kick-off.
[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: Buy buy buy. Give Ron a chance, he.s only had the players for a week and Guly has gone so why the panic..??[/p][/quote]DOH! Cause there,s only 4 weeks ,til kick-off. echo1948
  • Score: -3

5:38pm Fri 18 Jul 14

andygoater1957 says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
Personally I think it's a jolly wise decision to allow a new manager to see what he's actually got before p***ing money all over the market in the hope of hitting someone decent.

I think Man Utd (arguably our nearest competitor last season?) are doing a similar thing - they've only signed a couple of players (I think!) and Van Gaal is now assessing his squad before entering the market... Why is it so wrong to let Ron do the same?

Maybe he's targeting a couple of 'big' signings but wants to know where to focus his attention before spending any more money? I don't know...
Yes my be right a bit but with no L/B apart a young one we need to bye one now even if it's to help him out.
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: Personally I think it's a jolly wise decision to allow a new manager to see what he's actually got before p***ing money all over the market in the hope of hitting someone decent. I think Man Utd (arguably our nearest competitor last season?) are doing a similar thing - they've only signed a couple of players (I think!) and Van Gaal is now assessing his squad before entering the market... Why is it so wrong to let Ron do the same? Maybe he's targeting a couple of 'big' signings but wants to know where to focus his attention before spending any more money? I don't know...[/p][/quote]Yes my be right a bit but with no L/B apart a young one we need to bye one now even if it's to help him out. andygoater1957
  • Score: 1

5:40pm Fri 18 Jul 14

DisplacedFan says...

echo1948 wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
Buy buy buy. Give Ron a chance, he.s only had the players for a week and Guly has gone so why the panic..??
DOH! Cause there,s only 4 weeks ,til kick-off.
With such a large amount of transfer money we have spent very little. At the moment it is hard to see that we have moved any further forward with our squad than last year. If we expect more, we need to do more. We hae some two weeks left in the transfer market. At this rate, we cannot expect better than we did last year and for me that is unacceptable. We shall see.
[quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: Buy buy buy. Give Ron a chance, he.s only had the players for a week and Guly has gone so why the panic..??[/p][/quote]DOH! Cause there,s only 4 weeks ,til kick-off.[/p][/quote]With such a large amount of transfer money we have spent very little. At the moment it is hard to see that we have moved any further forward with our squad than last year. If we expect more, we need to do more. We hae some two weeks left in the transfer market. At this rate, we cannot expect better than we did last year and for me that is unacceptable. We shall see. DisplacedFan
  • Score: 0

5:46pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

They've returned from their pre season European tour and start the English fixtures on Monday. Would have been nice to use these fixtures to bed in new signings and build a team spirit and understanding. Like Liverpool will be doing with Rickie and Adam and Man U with Luke.
They've returned from their pre season European tour and start the English fixtures on Monday. Would have been nice to use these fixtures to bed in new signings and build a team spirit and understanding. Like Liverpool will be doing with Rickie and Adam and Man U with Luke. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 1

5:56pm Fri 18 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Chipmonk1 wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London.
Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.
Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle.

For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?
seed we bid the same amount as qpr and palace but itlooks like caulker is going to choose qpr. nothing to do with the money we bid or reeds `persuasiveness`.
qpr lost £65m in a season, had a £68m wage bill that exceeded their entire turnover, and were £177m in debt.
that's a season in the championship not the prem! that's bound to go up this season with the addition of rio, who will want a huge wage, and others.
we may not pay enough wages but how can we compete with a club that is willing to overspend to that degree. we may have offered caulker a decent enough wage for his age and ability but we all know that redkrapp is just going to offer anything to get the player, he doesn't care where the money comes from or how much debt he runs up.
the prems FFP wont affect qpr as its their owner can pay any fine they may get or will find a way of ploughing money into the club to get round those rules, they wont bother trying to comply with uefa`s ffp rules as they know they wont qualify for Europe this season.
this is what happens when you have an owner who is happy to throw away huge amounts of money and a manager with a history of spending clubs broke.
being a young centre back would you rather pick a team because they are willing to pay a lot more than anyone else or pick a team who pay less money but have a top quality, world class, big name, former centre back as their manager? a manager that you will be able to learn so much from and will probably make you a far better player? well if caulker goes to qpr then there is only one reason why.

on a different note,

" Suddenly everyone's an accountant and very concerned we don't spend kats money. didnt hear anyone mention it when we were flying high buying world class players"

does anyone else know when we were `flying high` and spending `kats money` on `world class players`?
funny she only took over ownership late last year and the only window we could have spent `her` money in was the jan window this year when we didn't spend anything! prior to her taking over the club was held in a trust set up by ST Markus and ran by NC. I`m still struggling though to find any `world class` players we have signed. Osvaldo? no dropped from the Italian squad. Gaston? no. good player but not world class. Big Vic? same as gaston. mayuka? really? J-rod? not yet but possible and he cost less than our bid for caulker! dejan? great player but a world class kn0b. anyone I`ve missed out?
We have to stop making excuses and accept the Premier League as it is and compete in it. Otherwise why are we in it?

I've heard the excuses as to why we can't retain our homegrown talent. I've heard the excuses as to why we can't tempt young talent from elsewhere to come here.

I think we all need to wake up and smell the coffee before it's too late.
seed I`m not giving excuses. I even said we may not pay enough wages. I was however trying to explain that whilst we have bid the same amount for caulker as qpr we just cannot compete with the wages they offer. that's because qpr are willing to spend way more on wages than hey make in a season, that's the way redkrapp does business and it would be suicide to try to outbid them on wages. we almost went out of business once, paid too much in the championship, so do we want to go down that route again? let qpr pay what they want, it wont help them in the long run. if we want to pay more wages we need a bigger stadium. we can afford to pay some players around £75k a week but that would just be a few and maybe we have other players earmarked for those funds. we will have to wait and see.
Another accountant with intimate knowledge of qprs books.or do we have a bs artist.you have no idea how much qpr are willing to spend on wages or what we offered.your an apologist for the club,just like you did when Lowe was running us into the ground.we would still have him if there were many more like you.wake up! Read the comments,saints supporters are starting to smell a rat.no not your breath,the fact that we are being lied to.be brave enough to have an opinion of your own,reading your posts is like going on the o/s site.
Yes de Heiligen listen to Sammy. Relogin with a different username (say knackers for example) and offer wildly contradictory "opinions". Then maybe you will be taken seriously. Like Sammy 😆
No your right I should take a leaf out of sammynobrains book and just post absolute carp!

I didn't know I had to be an accountant to read qpr's published accounts!
So I need a degree in accounting to know that if you are willing to spend £68mill on wages a year whilst in the championship and without Remy's wages, in a season they lost £65mill, and with a manager with a recorded history of spending money like its going out of fashion on transfers and wages, you are willing to pay a player more than most other clubs! I need that degree to know that we have a strict wage structure and that will keep us from offering the same wages as a free spending opponent! We don't spend money on wages that other clubs will, thats not guesswork its fact! Whether we like it or not the club are going to stick to their limits. Personally I would rather that than do a poopey, or a qpr! I want top quality players as much as the next fan but I respect the clubs policy of not paying stupid wages on players that don't deserve that wage.
I don't need to know accounting to know that qpr paid samba £100k a week on a 4 1/2yr deal or Remy £80k a week also over 4 1/2 years or julio cesar on £90k a week over 4yrs. None of those player were on that £68mill wage bill, samba sold after 1/2 season and the other 2 loaned out! Its common sense to assume that if they are willing to pay those wages for those players they are willing to pay more than us for caulker!
To put it another way,
Samba £5.2mill a year, £23.4mill over 4.5 years
Remy £4.16mill a year, £18.72mill over 4.5 years
Cesar. £4.68mill a year, £18.72mill over 4 years
Total. £14.04mill a year, £60.84mill 4/4.5 years
Thats £14.04mill that wasn't included in that huge wage bill.
Anyone think thats a sensible way of running a club when they are/were £177mill in debt and have a stadium with just a 18360 capacity? Anyone still want to run our club like that?
Do I need to know about accounting to know that is not sustainable unless the owner is willing to lose the GDP of a small country every year?

Now sammynobrains I have sed basic maths for you there I hope you are able to understand the facts and figures, I accept I doesn't fit in with your WUM opinions but there you go you cant change published facts and figures to suit, they are what they are!

Still no list of world class players that we have signed, as I told your alter ego, you cant confuse being world class with playing in the world cup! So what world class players have we signed? I think we would all like to know as we must have not seen them play yet!
I think your time is best spent playing with the thumbs up and down votes than trying to WUM saints fans up!
Enjoy Exeter!
[quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London. Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.[/p][/quote]Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle. For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?[/p][/quote]seed we bid the same amount as qpr and palace but itlooks like caulker is going to choose qpr. nothing to do with the money we bid or reeds `persuasiveness`. qpr lost £65m in a season, had a £68m wage bill that exceeded their entire turnover, and were £177m in debt. that's a season in the championship not the prem! that's bound to go up this season with the addition of rio, who will want a huge wage, and others. we may not pay enough wages but how can we compete with a club that is willing to overspend to that degree. we may have offered caulker a decent enough wage for his age and ability but we all know that redkrapp is just going to offer anything to get the player, he doesn't care where the money comes from or how much debt he runs up. the prems FFP wont affect qpr as its their owner can pay any fine they may get or will find a way of ploughing money into the club to get round those rules, they wont bother trying to comply with uefa`s ffp rules as they know they wont qualify for Europe this season. this is what happens when you have an owner who is happy to throw away huge amounts of money and a manager with a history of spending clubs broke. being a young centre back would you rather pick a team because they are willing to pay a lot more than anyone else or pick a team who pay less money but have a top quality, world class, big name, former centre back as their manager? a manager that you will be able to learn so much from and will probably make you a far better player? well if caulker goes to qpr then there is only one reason why. on a different note, " Suddenly everyone's an accountant and very concerned we don't spend kats money. didnt hear anyone mention it when we were flying high buying world class players" does anyone else know when we were `flying high` and spending `kats money` on `world class players`? funny she only took over ownership late last year and the only window we could have spent `her` money in was the jan window this year when we didn't spend anything! prior to her taking over the club was held in a trust set up by ST Markus and ran by NC. I`m still struggling though to find any `world class` players we have signed. Osvaldo? no dropped from the Italian squad. Gaston? no. good player but not world class. Big Vic? same as gaston. mayuka? really? J-rod? not yet but possible and he cost less than our bid for caulker! dejan? great player but a world class kn0b. anyone I`ve missed out?[/p][/quote]We have to stop making excuses and accept the Premier League as it is and compete in it. Otherwise why are we in it? I've heard the excuses as to why we can't retain our homegrown talent. I've heard the excuses as to why we can't tempt young talent from elsewhere to come here. I think we all need to wake up and smell the coffee before it's too late.[/p][/quote]seed I`m not giving excuses. I even said we may not pay enough wages. I was however trying to explain that whilst we have bid the same amount for caulker as qpr we just cannot compete with the wages they offer. that's because qpr are willing to spend way more on wages than hey make in a season, that's the way redkrapp does business and it would be suicide to try to outbid them on wages. we almost went out of business once, paid too much in the championship, so do we want to go down that route again? let qpr pay what they want, it wont help them in the long run. if we want to pay more wages we need a bigger stadium. we can afford to pay some players around £75k a week but that would just be a few and maybe we have other players earmarked for those funds. we will have to wait and see.[/p][/quote]Another accountant with intimate knowledge of qprs books.or do we have a bs artist.you have no idea how much qpr are willing to spend on wages or what we offered.your an apologist for the club,just like you did when Lowe was running us into the ground.we would still have him if there were many more like you.wake up! Read the comments,saints supporters are starting to smell a rat.no not your breath,the fact that we are being lied to.be brave enough to have an opinion of your own,reading your posts is like going on the o/s site.[/p][/quote]Yes de Heiligen listen to Sammy. Relogin with a different username (say knackers for example) and offer wildly contradictory "opinions". Then maybe you will be taken seriously. Like Sammy 😆[/p][/quote]No your right I should take a leaf out of sammynobrains book and just post absolute carp! I didn't know I had to be an accountant to read qpr's published accounts! So I need a degree in accounting to know that if you are willing to spend £68mill on wages a year whilst in the championship and without Remy's wages, in a season they lost £65mill, and with a manager with a recorded history of spending money like its going out of fashion on transfers and wages, you are willing to pay a player more than most other clubs! I need that degree to know that we have a strict wage structure and that will keep us from offering the same wages as a free spending opponent! We don't spend money on wages that other clubs will, thats not guesswork its fact! Whether we like it or not the club are going to stick to their limits. Personally I would rather that than do a poopey, or a qpr! I want top quality players as much as the next fan but I respect the clubs policy of not paying stupid wages on players that don't deserve that wage. I don't need to know accounting to know that qpr paid samba £100k a week on a 4 1/2yr deal or Remy £80k a week also over 4 1/2 years or julio cesar on £90k a week over 4yrs. None of those player were on that £68mill wage bill, samba sold after 1/2 season and the other 2 loaned out! Its common sense to assume that if they are willing to pay those wages for those players they are willing to pay more than us for caulker! To put it another way, Samba £5.2mill a year, £23.4mill over 4.5 years Remy £4.16mill a year, £18.72mill over 4.5 years Cesar. £4.68mill a year, £18.72mill over 4 years Total. £14.04mill a year, £60.84mill 4/4.5 years Thats £14.04mill that wasn't included in that huge wage bill. Anyone think thats a sensible way of running a club when they are/were £177mill in debt and have a stadium with just a 18360 capacity? Anyone still want to run our club like that? Do I need to know about accounting to know that is not sustainable unless the owner is willing to lose the GDP of a small country every year? Now sammynobrains I have sed basic maths for you there I hope you are able to understand the facts and figures, I accept I doesn't fit in with your WUM opinions but there you go you cant change published facts and figures to suit, they are what they are! Still no list of world class players that we have signed, as I told your alter ego, you cant confuse being world class with playing in the world cup! So what world class players have we signed? I think we would all like to know as we must have not seen them play yet! I think your time is best spent playing with the thumbs up and down votes than trying to WUM saints fans up! Enjoy Exeter! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 12

6:24pm Fri 18 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

spratt wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
jls217 wrote:
milton road wrote:
So much paper talk Lovren is meant to be going so Saints must surely be interested in Caulker let us make a news story. I would in truth like to think Saints were a little more adventurous than that.
Its awkward for Koeman he needs to see how friendlies go and how things settle to identify weaknesses, what Poch saw as a weakness Koeman may not. We need a left back but do we need two? He still has around 50 mil to spend am sure it will be spent as he identifies who he wants and the wage structure will have to change Lallana and Shaw have shown us that.
He as two Nat Clyne is almost as good down the left as he is down the right.
Clyne is brilliant cover for left back and always does a good job there. But he is right footed and will always cut inside so he is only cover for LB in emergency.
Just out of interest, and not being awkward, where does the 50M to spend come from? If I recall Les Reed told us months ago that around 100M would be available for new players. Since then Alan and Luke have been sold adding a further approx. 50M which again we were promised would be used to buy new players. . So why are we losing not particularly earth shattering players by offering stupid low figures like 3M? What sort of player is that likely to be? Is it all down to the determination to avoid high wage bills. At the moment "silence is golden" on the transfer front but big Ron seems relaxed enough so perhaps something is happening which we fans are unaware of? Please someone at St Marys say something.
when did les reed or anyone state how much money we had to spend? apart from saying all money from player sales would be reinvested there has never been an amount given.
the club are never going to say that we have X amount to spend, why would they? it just tells other clubs how much they can take us for.
there was I figure of £50mill going around the media before Ronnie signed, but that was never made public by the club, nor have they said its true or false.
(adam) lielanna was sold for £25mill, but allmouth get 25% of that, and luke for £30mill, giving a total of around £48mill, or very nearly the £50mill that was quoted by the media. there was a figure of £100mill going around but that was the £50mill and player sales added. not £100mill and player sales, do you think we could have spent £100mill without selling any players? so far we have spent the money from lielana on 2 players and I have no doubt we will spend more. probably will be spent between this and the jan window, though that is just y opinion.
I have no knowledge of SFC`s accounts so I don't know for sure, I am just clearing up your confusion over the total amount that has been suggested we have.


I wish those who are moaning that we haven't brought anymore players would just calm down. I mean is only been 6 days since we last brought a player and the squad and manager have been away for that time.
oh and the window doesn't shut when the first game kicks off echo1948, it continues until the end of august! players can gel quite quickly, especially if you buy the right ones and don't just panic buy because some fans have itchy feet. arsenil brought ozil on the last day of the window and he gelled straight away.

outside sms today I looked at the number 2 ticket office, on a picture of fans underneath were written just two words, belief and faith, I think some fans have forgotten those two simple words.
[quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: So much paper talk Lovren is meant to be going so Saints must surely be interested in Caulker let us make a news story. I would in truth like to think Saints were a little more adventurous than that. Its awkward for Koeman he needs to see how friendlies go and how things settle to identify weaknesses, what Poch saw as a weakness Koeman may not. We need a left back but do we need two? He still has around 50 mil to spend am sure it will be spent as he identifies who he wants and the wage structure will have to change Lallana and Shaw have shown us that.[/p][/quote]He as two Nat Clyne is almost as good down the left as he is down the right.[/p][/quote]Clyne is brilliant cover for left back and always does a good job there. But he is right footed and will always cut inside so he is only cover for LB in emergency.[/p][/quote]Just out of interest, and not being awkward, where does the 50M to spend come from? If I recall Les Reed told us months ago that around 100M would be available for new players. Since then Alan and Luke have been sold adding a further approx. 50M which again we were promised would be used to buy new players. . So why are we losing not particularly earth shattering players by offering stupid low figures like 3M? What sort of player is that likely to be? Is it all down to the determination to avoid high wage bills. At the moment "silence is golden" on the transfer front but big Ron seems relaxed enough so perhaps something is happening which we fans are unaware of? Please someone at St Marys say something.[/p][/quote]when did les reed or anyone state how much money we had to spend? apart from saying all money from player sales would be reinvested there has never been an amount given. the club are never going to say that we have X amount to spend, why would they? it just tells other clubs how much they can take us for. there was I figure of £50mill going around the media before Ronnie signed, but that was never made public by the club, nor have they said its true or false. (adam) lielanna was sold for £25mill, but allmouth get 25% of that, and luke for £30mill, giving a total of around £48mill, or very nearly the £50mill that was quoted by the media. there was a figure of £100mill going around but that was the £50mill and player sales added. not £100mill and player sales, do you think we could have spent £100mill without selling any players? so far we have spent the money from lielana on 2 players and I have no doubt we will spend more. probably will be spent between this and the jan window, though that is just y opinion. I have no knowledge of SFC`s accounts so I don't know for sure, I am just clearing up your confusion over the total amount that has been suggested we have. I wish those who are moaning that we haven't brought anymore players would just calm down. I mean is only been 6 days since we last brought a player and the squad and manager have been away for that time. oh and the window doesn't shut when the first game kicks off echo1948, it continues until the end of august! players can gel quite quickly, especially if you buy the right ones and don't just panic buy because some fans have itchy feet. arsenil brought ozil on the last day of the window and he gelled straight away. outside sms today I looked at the number 2 ticket office, on a picture of fans underneath were written just two words, belief and faith, I think some fans have forgotten those two simple words. de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 8

6:27pm Fri 18 Jul 14

techsture says...

The Superb scouting system that brought you "Trust house" Forte and "Keep em" NGuisian
The Superb scouting system that brought you "Trust house" Forte and "Keep em" NGuisian techsture
  • Score: -7

6:27pm Fri 18 Jul 14

echo1948 says...

Just seen a report that Arsenhole have opened talks with Saints about signing Spiderman for £15k. Another one on the way out that we won,t replace. Play the kids!
Just seen a report that Arsenhole have opened talks with Saints about signing Spiderman for £15k. Another one on the way out that we won,t replace. Play the kids! echo1948
  • Score: -7

6:38pm Fri 18 Jul 14

BarnetSaint says...

the cowman wrote:
Why do people prejudge. Let's wait until the window closes before we judge the board and manager on who they have brought and sold.
We don't know if we made a bid for Caulker, and if we did whether it was accepted. If we did and it was accepted by Cardiff then Caulker would make up his mind, all players seem to be mercenary now so if QPR offered him silly wages then he would in all probability end up there. Newcastle and West Ham seem to be buying in numbers, but they are all foreign and a gamble and may not necessarily improve their teams. I would rather we buy a few players that improve the team/squad rather "than the buy them all" attitude which some posters advocate. Any players we bring in lets give them a chance, Jay was slated in the early days, but once settled and used to the premiership I am sure we all agree he was a good buy, and if he scored the easy ones which he has a tendency to miss could be a 25 goal a season man.
All good points and we all hope you're right.
The board are under scrutiny now because we're falling behind on the transfer front.
We've lost some excellent players and need to replace them with quality.
Hopefully pelle and tadic will do the business but it's not enough.
Lovren will be off and we need a quality replacement, and who ever comes in needs a decent pre season .pull your finger out les
[quote][p][bold]the cowman[/bold] wrote: Why do people prejudge. Let's wait until the window closes before we judge the board and manager on who they have brought and sold. We don't know if we made a bid for Caulker, and if we did whether it was accepted. If we did and it was accepted by Cardiff then Caulker would make up his mind, all players seem to be mercenary now so if QPR offered him silly wages then he would in all probability end up there. Newcastle and West Ham seem to be buying in numbers, but they are all foreign and a gamble and may not necessarily improve their teams. I would rather we buy a few players that improve the team/squad rather "than the buy them all" attitude which some posters advocate. Any players we bring in lets give them a chance, Jay was slated in the early days, but once settled and used to the premiership I am sure we all agree he was a good buy, and if he scored the easy ones which he has a tendency to miss could be a 25 goal a season man.[/p][/quote]All good points and we all hope you're right. The board are under scrutiny now because we're falling behind on the transfer front. We've lost some excellent players and need to replace them with quality. Hopefully pelle and tadic will do the business but it's not enough. Lovren will be off and we need a quality replacement, and who ever comes in needs a decent pre season .pull your finger out les BarnetSaint
  • Score: -1

6:39pm Fri 18 Jul 14

DisplacedFan says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
They've returned from their pre season European tour and start the English fixtures on Monday. Would have been nice to use these fixtures to bed in new signings and build a team spirit and understanding. Like Liverpool will be doing with Rickie and Adam and Man U with Luke.
Hardly a good start to what we wanted to be a better year. What is the point of saying we have all this money to spend if it does not result in good players coming in? The jury is out at least for two more weeks.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: They've returned from their pre season European tour and start the English fixtures on Monday. Would have been nice to use these fixtures to bed in new signings and build a team spirit and understanding. Like Liverpool will be doing with Rickie and Adam and Man U with Luke.[/p][/quote]Hardly a good start to what we wanted to be a better year. What is the point of saying we have all this money to spend if it does not result in good players coming in? The jury is out at least for two more weeks. DisplacedFan
  • Score: -1

6:55pm Fri 18 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

As it appears to be a neggie fest, I will butt out tonight and concentrate on the Cricket, where no doubt Hampshire will fail miserably yet again.
As it appears to be a neggie fest, I will butt out tonight and concentrate on the Cricket, where no doubt Hampshire will fail miserably yet again. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

6:56pm Fri 18 Jul 14

elvis says...

echo1948 wrote:
Just seen a report that Arsenhole have opened talks with Saints about signing Spiderman for £15k. Another one on the way out that we won,t replace. Play the kids!
Echo 1948 ? Is that you're year of birth ? I'm just wondering coz my Dad was born in 1948 & he's a bloody miserable git !! Dad is that you ????
[quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: Just seen a report that Arsenhole have opened talks with Saints about signing Spiderman for £15k. Another one on the way out that we won,t replace. Play the kids![/p][/quote]Echo 1948 ? Is that you're year of birth ? I'm just wondering coz my Dad was born in 1948 & he's a bloody miserable git !! Dad is that you ???? elvis
  • Score: 7

7:04pm Fri 18 Jul 14

willygetaway says...

willygetaway wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London.
Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.
Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle.

For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?
We aren,t going to buy anyone else.Wake up. The "so-called" money to spend is in Katherina,s bank account and is likely to stay there.
your so right , the board are pis**** on our heads and telling us its raining.
I DON,T BELIEVE A WORD THIS BOARD HAS SAID
ITS TIME TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP.
and actions speak volumes, wake up People and start asking the question
why have you asset stripped us ?
i love the SAINTS which is WHY i cant stay quite COYR
thumb it down all you like, the truth is always the truth COYR
[quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London. Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.[/p][/quote]Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle. For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?[/p][/quote]We aren,t going to buy anyone else.Wake up. The "so-called" money to spend is in Katherina,s bank account and is likely to stay there.[/p][/quote]your so right , the board are pis**** on our heads and telling us its raining. I DON,T BELIEVE A WORD THIS BOARD HAS SAID ITS TIME TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP. and actions speak volumes, wake up People and start asking the question why have you asset stripped us ? i love the SAINTS which is WHY i cant stay quite COYR[/p][/quote]thumb it down all you like, the truth is always the truth COYR willygetaway
  • Score: -6

7:32pm Fri 18 Jul 14

peregrine73 says...

andygoater1957 wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
Personally I think it's a jolly wise decision to allow a new manager to see what he's actually got before p***ing money all over the market in the hope of hitting someone decent.

I think Man Utd (arguably our nearest competitor last season?) are doing a similar thing - they've only signed a couple of players (I think!) and Van Gaal is now assessing his squad before entering the market... Why is it so wrong to let Ron do the same?

Maybe he's targeting a couple of 'big' signings but wants to know where to focus his attention before spending any more money? I don't know...
Yes my be right a bit but with no L/B apart a young one we need to bye one now even if it's to help him out.
Yes but there's one difference Man utd have a strong in depth squad before buying!.Saints have a weak squad and there will be no more signings!.The money is with the owner,they made a good return on the transfers and more to come its business after all!
[quote][p][bold]andygoater1957[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: Personally I think it's a jolly wise decision to allow a new manager to see what he's actually got before p***ing money all over the market in the hope of hitting someone decent. I think Man Utd (arguably our nearest competitor last season?) are doing a similar thing - they've only signed a couple of players (I think!) and Van Gaal is now assessing his squad before entering the market... Why is it so wrong to let Ron do the same? Maybe he's targeting a couple of 'big' signings but wants to know where to focus his attention before spending any more money? I don't know...[/p][/quote]Yes my be right a bit but with no L/B apart a young one we need to bye one now even if it's to help him out.[/p][/quote]Yes but there's one difference Man utd have a strong in depth squad before buying!.Saints have a weak squad and there will be no more signings!.The money is with the owner,they made a good return on the transfers and more to come its business after all! peregrine73
  • Score: -6

7:57pm Fri 18 Jul 14

worried of n e hampshire says...

Who is this Helligen bloke?
Not seen his posts before, talks a lot of sense, like the cut of your jib sir!
Guessing you are a bloke!
Who is this Helligen bloke? Not seen his posts before, talks a lot of sense, like the cut of your jib sir! Guessing you are a bloke! worried of n e hampshire
  • Score: 13

8:11pm Fri 18 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

willygetaway wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London.
Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.
Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle.

For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?
We aren,t going to buy anyone else.Wake up. The "so-called" money to spend is in Katherina,s bank account and is likely to stay there.
your so right , the board are pis**** on our heads and telling us its raining.
I DON,T BELIEVE A WORD THIS BOARD HAS SAID
ITS TIME TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP.
and actions speak volumes, wake up People and start asking the question
why have you asset stripped us ?
i love the SAINTS which is WHY i cant stay quite COYR
thumb it down all you like, the truth is always the truth COYR
show me PROOF of this `asset stripping` you claim is going on and I might believe you. so far though your claim just doesn't add up!
if a multibillionaire was trying to `asset strip` the club then why hold out for £5mill on the lielanna deal? £5mill to her is nothing,
if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve phase 2 of staplewood?
if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve the near £20mill spend on 2 new players?
if she was `asset stripping` why would she agree to install a new floodlighting system at sms?

as I said the facts just don't fit your claim.
[quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London. Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.[/p][/quote]Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle. For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?[/p][/quote]We aren,t going to buy anyone else.Wake up. The "so-called" money to spend is in Katherina,s bank account and is likely to stay there.[/p][/quote]your so right , the board are pis**** on our heads and telling us its raining. I DON,T BELIEVE A WORD THIS BOARD HAS SAID ITS TIME TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP. and actions speak volumes, wake up People and start asking the question why have you asset stripped us ? i love the SAINTS which is WHY i cant stay quite COYR[/p][/quote]thumb it down all you like, the truth is always the truth COYR[/p][/quote]show me PROOF of this `asset stripping` you claim is going on and I might believe you. so far though your claim just doesn't add up! if a multibillionaire was trying to `asset strip` the club then why hold out for £5mill on the lielanna deal? £5mill to her is nothing, if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve phase 2 of staplewood? if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve the near £20mill spend on 2 new players? if she was `asset stripping` why would she agree to install a new floodlighting system at sms? as I said the facts just don't fit your claim. de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 12

8:13pm Fri 18 Jul 14

ItchenBridger says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
contric wrote:
can anyone on here tell me how long it takes to walk from millbrook railway station to bat in regents park road any informationwill be gratefully received
Its a long way back to the pavilion,if you get out first ball.
Just done it the other way round, walking 15 minutes , walking backwards
25minutes and a visit to the hospital, jogging 10 minutes and a fitting for a pacemaker, so will miss the start of the season, like Carrick ( which came up as Carsick) but not so well paid! mmmmmmmm. Apples.....
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]contric[/bold] wrote: can anyone on here tell me how long it takes to walk from millbrook railway station to bat in regents park road any informationwill be gratefully received[/p][/quote]Its a long way back to the pavilion,if you get out first ball.[/p][/quote]Just done it the other way round, walking 15 minutes , walking backwards 25minutes and a visit to the hospital, jogging 10 minutes and a fitting for a pacemaker, so will miss the start of the season, like Carrick ( which came up as Carsick) but not so well paid! mmmmmmmm. Apples..... ItchenBridger
  • Score: 2

8:29pm Fri 18 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
Who is this Helligen bloke?
Not seen his posts before, talks a lot of sense, like the cut of your jib sir!
Guessing you are a bloke!
I changed login from the Spanish/Italian el caballo santos101(MP & NC) to the new dutch/german (RK & KL) de Heiligen paard 101 this summer, didn't seem right to keep the spanih and Italian names. both come from and are the same as my original login name saintshorse 101.

I do make it clear that I have changed login names, for those who want to accuse me of multiple logins, and don't use the past logins anymore, except for recently when for some reason my tablet logged back into el caballo without me noticing. I again made the `mistake` clear and changed my tablet back.
so there you go, I`m an old poster who`s been boring people on here for ages ;0)
[quote][p][bold]worried of n e hampshire[/bold] wrote: Who is this Helligen bloke? Not seen his posts before, talks a lot of sense, like the cut of your jib sir! Guessing you are a bloke![/p][/quote]I changed login from the Spanish/Italian el caballo santos101(MP & NC) to the new dutch/german (RK & KL) de Heiligen paard 101 this summer, didn't seem right to keep the spanih and Italian names. both come from and are the same as my original login name saintshorse 101. I do make it clear that I have changed login names, for those who want to accuse me of multiple logins, and don't use the past logins anymore, except for recently when for some reason my tablet logged back into el caballo without me noticing. I again made the `mistake` clear and changed my tablet back. so there you go, I`m an old poster who`s been boring people on here for ages ;0) de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 6

8:40pm Fri 18 Jul 14

nomorerumours says...

Although some of you seem to be getting quite woried, I think we all need to show a lot more patience. RK has only been with us for a month and has already signed up 2 new players and halted the exodus. The count is 3 out and 2 in. We may or may not lose Lovren but I'm expecting to see Morg stay (for at least one more season) and JayRod should be signing a new contract next week. Saints have been linked with many other players and as far as I can see only a few of these can be ruled out right now (for the usual reasons - the playing saying he wants to stay put or the club wants far too much or has been accepted by another club). There are still plenty of good opportunities out there and there is still more time than many seem to realise. Not the 4 weeks to the new season but well over 6 weeks until the window closes. I would be very surprised if a couple more deals are not finalised in the next 2 weeks and perhaps another 2 or 3 during August. Some possible "World Cup" targets will only be returing from their holidays during the next week. I expect the activity along with all the rediculous media rumours to really hot up in the next few days. I'm really confident that RK and everyone behind scenes are doing an excellent job and are determined not to let the club or us fans down. So, lets give them a chance and judge them in 6 weeks time.
Although some of you seem to be getting quite woried, I think we all need to show a lot more patience. RK has only been with us for a month and has already signed up 2 new players and halted the exodus. The count is 3 out and 2 in. We may or may not lose Lovren but I'm expecting to see Morg stay (for at least one more season) and JayRod should be signing a new contract next week. Saints have been linked with many other players and as far as I can see only a few of these can be ruled out right now (for the usual reasons - the playing saying he wants to stay put or the club wants far too much or has been accepted by another club). There are still plenty of good opportunities out there and there is still more time than many seem to realise. Not the 4 weeks to the new season but well over 6 weeks until the window closes. I would be very surprised if a couple more deals are not finalised in the next 2 weeks and perhaps another 2 or 3 during August. Some possible "World Cup" targets will only be returing from their holidays during the next week. I expect the activity along with all the rediculous media rumours to really hot up in the next few days. I'm really confident that RK and everyone behind scenes are doing an excellent job and are determined not to let the club or us fans down. So, lets give them a chance and judge them in 6 weeks time. nomorerumours
  • Score: 5

8:55pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Sammy2sheds says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
spratt wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
jls217 wrote:
milton road wrote:
So much paper talk Lovren is meant to be going so Saints must surely be interested in Caulker let us make a news story. I would in truth like to think Saints were a little more adventurous than that.
Its awkward for Koeman he needs to see how friendlies go and how things settle to identify weaknesses, what Poch saw as a weakness Koeman may not. We need a left back but do we need two? He still has around 50 mil to spend am sure it will be spent as he identifies who he wants and the wage structure will have to change Lallana and Shaw have shown us that.
He as two Nat Clyne is almost as good down the left as he is down the right.
Clyne is brilliant cover for left back and always does a good job there. But he is right footed and will always cut inside so he is only cover for LB in emergency.
Just out of interest, and not being awkward, where does the 50M to spend come from? If I recall Les Reed told us months ago that around 100M would be available for new players. Since then Alan and Luke have been sold adding a further approx. 50M which again we were promised would be used to buy new players. . So why are we losing not particularly earth shattering players by offering stupid low figures like 3M? What sort of player is that likely to be? Is it all down to the determination to avoid high wage bills. At the moment "silence is golden" on the transfer front but big Ron seems relaxed enough so perhaps something is happening which we fans are unaware of? Please someone at St Marys say something.
when did les reed or anyone state how much money we had to spend? apart from saying all money from player sales would be reinvested there has never been an amount given.
the club are never going to say that we have X amount to spend, why would they? it just tells other clubs how much they can take us for.
there was I figure of £50mill going around the media before Ronnie signed, but that was never made public by the club, nor have they said its true or false.
(adam) lielanna was sold for £25mill, but allmouth get 25% of that, and luke for £30mill, giving a total of around £48mill, or very nearly the £50mill that was quoted by the media. there was a figure of £100mill going around but that was the £50mill and player sales added. not £100mill and player sales, do you think we could have spent £100mill without selling any players? so far we have spent the money from lielana on 2 players and I have no doubt we will spend more. probably will be spent between this and the jan window, though that is just y opinion.
I have no knowledge of SFC`s accounts so I don't know for sure, I am just clearing up your confusion over the total amount that has been suggested we have.


I wish those who are moaning that we haven't brought anymore players would just calm down. I mean is only been 6 days since we last brought a player and the squad and manager have been away for that time.
oh and the window doesn't shut when the first game kicks off echo1948, it continues until the end of august! players can gel quite quickly, especially if you buy the right ones and don't just panic buy because some fans have itchy feet. arsenil brought ozil on the last day of the window and he gelled straight away.

outside sms today I looked at the number 2 ticket office, on a picture of fans underneath were written just two words, belief and faith, I think some fans have forgotten those two simple words.
You are a real boring poster.i always get half way through and scroll down.its like reading a pr statement from the club.do you have your own opinion? Or are you a yes man? The club could sell the whole squad and you would happily clap Nd cheer them on.just like you did when Lowe was in charge.oh and stop self medicating.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: So much paper talk Lovren is meant to be going so Saints must surely be interested in Caulker let us make a news story. I would in truth like to think Saints were a little more adventurous than that. Its awkward for Koeman he needs to see how friendlies go and how things settle to identify weaknesses, what Poch saw as a weakness Koeman may not. We need a left back but do we need two? He still has around 50 mil to spend am sure it will be spent as he identifies who he wants and the wage structure will have to change Lallana and Shaw have shown us that.[/p][/quote]He as two Nat Clyne is almost as good down the left as he is down the right.[/p][/quote]Clyne is brilliant cover for left back and always does a good job there. But he is right footed and will always cut inside so he is only cover for LB in emergency.[/p][/quote]Just out of interest, and not being awkward, where does the 50M to spend come from? If I recall Les Reed told us months ago that around 100M would be available for new players. Since then Alan and Luke have been sold adding a further approx. 50M which again we were promised would be used to buy new players. . So why are we losing not particularly earth shattering players by offering stupid low figures like 3M? What sort of player is that likely to be? Is it all down to the determination to avoid high wage bills. At the moment "silence is golden" on the transfer front but big Ron seems relaxed enough so perhaps something is happening which we fans are unaware of? Please someone at St Marys say something.[/p][/quote]when did les reed or anyone state how much money we had to spend? apart from saying all money from player sales would be reinvested there has never been an amount given. the club are never going to say that we have X amount to spend, why would they? it just tells other clubs how much they can take us for. there was I figure of £50mill going around the media before Ronnie signed, but that was never made public by the club, nor have they said its true or false. (adam) lielanna was sold for £25mill, but allmouth get 25% of that, and luke for £30mill, giving a total of around £48mill, or very nearly the £50mill that was quoted by the media. there was a figure of £100mill going around but that was the £50mill and player sales added. not £100mill and player sales, do you think we could have spent £100mill without selling any players? so far we have spent the money from lielana on 2 players and I have no doubt we will spend more. probably will be spent between this and the jan window, though that is just y opinion. I have no knowledge of SFC`s accounts so I don't know for sure, I am just clearing up your confusion over the total amount that has been suggested we have. I wish those who are moaning that we haven't brought anymore players would just calm down. I mean is only been 6 days since we last brought a player and the squad and manager have been away for that time. oh and the window doesn't shut when the first game kicks off echo1948, it continues until the end of august! players can gel quite quickly, especially if you buy the right ones and don't just panic buy because some fans have itchy feet. arsenil brought ozil on the last day of the window and he gelled straight away. outside sms today I looked at the number 2 ticket office, on a picture of fans underneath were written just two words, belief and faith, I think some fans have forgotten those two simple words.[/p][/quote]You are a real boring poster.i always get half way through and scroll down.its like reading a pr statement from the club.do you have your own opinion? Or are you a yes man? The club could sell the whole squad and you would happily clap Nd cheer them on.just like you did when Lowe was in charge.oh and stop self medicating. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 32

9:11pm Fri 18 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
spratt wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
jls217 wrote:
milton road wrote:
So much paper talk Lovren is meant to be going so Saints must surely be interested in Caulker let us make a news story. I would in truth like to think Saints were a little more adventurous than that.
Its awkward for Koeman he needs to see how friendlies go and how things settle to identify weaknesses, what Poch saw as a weakness Koeman may not. We need a left back but do we need two? He still has around 50 mil to spend am sure it will be spent as he identifies who he wants and the wage structure will have to change Lallana and Shaw have shown us that.
He as two Nat Clyne is almost as good down the left as he is down the right.
Clyne is brilliant cover for left back and always does a good job there. But he is right footed and will always cut inside so he is only cover for LB in emergency.
Just out of interest, and not being awkward, where does the 50M to spend come from? If I recall Les Reed told us months ago that around 100M would be available for new players. Since then Alan and Luke have been sold adding a further approx. 50M which again we were promised would be used to buy new players. . So why are we losing not particularly earth shattering players by offering stupid low figures like 3M? What sort of player is that likely to be? Is it all down to the determination to avoid high wage bills. At the moment "silence is golden" on the transfer front but big Ron seems relaxed enough so perhaps something is happening which we fans are unaware of? Please someone at St Marys say something.
when did les reed or anyone state how much money we had to spend? apart from saying all money from player sales would be reinvested there has never been an amount given.
the club are never going to say that we have X amount to spend, why would they? it just tells other clubs how much they can take us for.
there was I figure of £50mill going around the media before Ronnie signed, but that was never made public by the club, nor have they said its true or false.
(adam) lielanna was sold for £25mill, but allmouth get 25% of that, and luke for £30mill, giving a total of around £48mill, or very nearly the £50mill that was quoted by the media. there was a figure of £100mill going around but that was the £50mill and player sales added. not £100mill and player sales, do you think we could have spent £100mill without selling any players? so far we have spent the money from lielana on 2 players and I have no doubt we will spend more. probably will be spent between this and the jan window, though that is just y opinion.
I have no knowledge of SFC`s accounts so I don't know for sure, I am just clearing up your confusion over the total amount that has been suggested we have.


I wish those who are moaning that we haven't brought anymore players would just calm down. I mean is only been 6 days since we last brought a player and the squad and manager have been away for that time.
oh and the window doesn't shut when the first game kicks off echo1948, it continues until the end of august! players can gel quite quickly, especially if you buy the right ones and don't just panic buy because some fans have itchy feet. arsenil brought ozil on the last day of the window and he gelled straight away.

outside sms today I looked at the number 2 ticket office, on a picture of fans underneath were written just two words, belief and faith, I think some fans have forgotten those two simple words.
You are a real boring poster.i always get half way through and scroll down.its like reading a pr statement from the club.do you have your own opinion? Or are you a yes man? The club could sell the whole squad and you would happily clap Nd cheer them on.just like you did when Lowe was in charge.oh and stop self medicating.
well done sammynobrains, no response to any questions that are put to you, like a typical WUM! so you go for the good old fashioned `divide and conquer` technique!
well if you only read half my posts at least that's better for you than the drivel you write. I know its not your usual `spot the dog` read and has lots of words so I can see why you would struggle.
as you have still to answer I will ask again and I will ask again in simple words that you might understand,
`what world class players have saints brought whilst KL has been the owner?` simple enough?
another quick question for you, `what area of sms do you have your season ticket in` and `where do you live in oz?` you've both so should be easy to answer!
enjoy Exeter!
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: So much paper talk Lovren is meant to be going so Saints must surely be interested in Caulker let us make a news story. I would in truth like to think Saints were a little more adventurous than that. Its awkward for Koeman he needs to see how friendlies go and how things settle to identify weaknesses, what Poch saw as a weakness Koeman may not. We need a left back but do we need two? He still has around 50 mil to spend am sure it will be spent as he identifies who he wants and the wage structure will have to change Lallana and Shaw have shown us that.[/p][/quote]He as two Nat Clyne is almost as good down the left as he is down the right.[/p][/quote]Clyne is brilliant cover for left back and always does a good job there. But he is right footed and will always cut inside so he is only cover for LB in emergency.[/p][/quote]Just out of interest, and not being awkward, where does the 50M to spend come from? If I recall Les Reed told us months ago that around 100M would be available for new players. Since then Alan and Luke have been sold adding a further approx. 50M which again we were promised would be used to buy new players. . So why are we losing not particularly earth shattering players by offering stupid low figures like 3M? What sort of player is that likely to be? Is it all down to the determination to avoid high wage bills. At the moment "silence is golden" on the transfer front but big Ron seems relaxed enough so perhaps something is happening which we fans are unaware of? Please someone at St Marys say something.[/p][/quote]when did les reed or anyone state how much money we had to spend? apart from saying all money from player sales would be reinvested there has never been an amount given. the club are never going to say that we have X amount to spend, why would they? it just tells other clubs how much they can take us for. there was I figure of £50mill going around the media before Ronnie signed, but that was never made public by the club, nor have they said its true or false. (adam) lielanna was sold for £25mill, but allmouth get 25% of that, and luke for £30mill, giving a total of around £48mill, or very nearly the £50mill that was quoted by the media. there was a figure of £100mill going around but that was the £50mill and player sales added. not £100mill and player sales, do you think we could have spent £100mill without selling any players? so far we have spent the money from lielana on 2 players and I have no doubt we will spend more. probably will be spent between this and the jan window, though that is just y opinion. I have no knowledge of SFC`s accounts so I don't know for sure, I am just clearing up your confusion over the total amount that has been suggested we have. I wish those who are moaning that we haven't brought anymore players would just calm down. I mean is only been 6 days since we last brought a player and the squad and manager have been away for that time. oh and the window doesn't shut when the first game kicks off echo1948, it continues until the end of august! players can gel quite quickly, especially if you buy the right ones and don't just panic buy because some fans have itchy feet. arsenil brought ozil on the last day of the window and he gelled straight away. outside sms today I looked at the number 2 ticket office, on a picture of fans underneath were written just two words, belief and faith, I think some fans have forgotten those two simple words.[/p][/quote]You are a real boring poster.i always get half way through and scroll down.its like reading a pr statement from the club.do you have your own opinion? Or are you a yes man? The club could sell the whole squad and you would happily clap Nd cheer them on.just like you did when Lowe was in charge.oh and stop self medicating.[/p][/quote]well done sammynobrains, no response to any questions that are put to you, like a typical WUM! so you go for the good old fashioned `divide and conquer` technique! well if you only read half my posts at least that's better for you than the drivel you write. I know its not your usual `spot the dog` read and has lots of words so I can see why you would struggle. as you have still to answer I will ask again and I will ask again in simple words that you might understand, `what world class players have saints brought whilst KL has been the owner?` simple enough? another quick question for you, `what area of sms do you have your season ticket in` and `where do you live in oz?` you've both so should be easy to answer! enjoy Exeter! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 11

9:23pm Fri 18 Jul 14

markodarko29 says...

More signings soon or relegation battle here we come fact
More signings soon or relegation battle here we come fact markodarko29
  • Score: -3

9:33pm Fri 18 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
spratt wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
jls217 wrote:
milton road wrote:
So much paper talk Lovren is meant to be going so Saints must surely be interested in Caulker let us make a news story. I would in truth like to think Saints were a little more adventurous than that.
Its awkward for Koeman he needs to see how friendlies go and how things settle to identify weaknesses, what Poch saw as a weakness Koeman may not. We need a left back but do we need two? He still has around 50 mil to spend am sure it will be spent as he identifies who he wants and the wage structure will have to change Lallana and Shaw have shown us that.
He as two Nat Clyne is almost as good down the left as he is down the right.
Clyne is brilliant cover for left back and always does a good job there. But he is right footed and will always cut inside so he is only cover for LB in emergency.
Just out of interest, and not being awkward, where does the 50M to spend come from? If I recall Les Reed told us months ago that around 100M would be available for new players. Since then Alan and Luke have been sold adding a further approx. 50M which again we were promised would be used to buy new players. . So why are we losing not particularly earth shattering players by offering stupid low figures like 3M? What sort of player is that likely to be? Is it all down to the determination to avoid high wage bills. At the moment "silence is golden" on the transfer front but big Ron seems relaxed enough so perhaps something is happening which we fans are unaware of? Please someone at St Marys say something.
when did les reed or anyone state how much money we had to spend? apart from saying all money from player sales would be reinvested there has never been an amount given.
the club are never going to say that we have X amount to spend, why would they? it just tells other clubs how much they can take us for.
there was I figure of £50mill going around the media before Ronnie signed, but that was never made public by the club, nor have they said its true or false.
(adam) lielanna was sold for £25mill, but allmouth get 25% of that, and luke for £30mill, giving a total of around £48mill, or very nearly the £50mill that was quoted by the media. there was a figure of £100mill going around but that was the £50mill and player sales added. not £100mill and player sales, do you think we could have spent £100mill without selling any players? so far we have spent the money from lielana on 2 players and I have no doubt we will spend more. probably will be spent between this and the jan window, though that is just y opinion.
I have no knowledge of SFC`s accounts so I don't know for sure, I am just clearing up your confusion over the total amount that has been suggested we have.


I wish those who are moaning that we haven't brought anymore players would just calm down. I mean is only been 6 days since we last brought a player and the squad and manager have been away for that time.
oh and the window doesn't shut when the first game kicks off echo1948, it continues until the end of august! players can gel quite quickly, especially if you buy the right ones and don't just panic buy because some fans have itchy feet. arsenil brought ozil on the last day of the window and he gelled straight away.

outside sms today I looked at the number 2 ticket office, on a picture of fans underneath were written just two words, belief and faith, I think some fans have forgotten those two simple words.
You are a real boring poster.i always get half way through and scroll down.its like reading a pr statement from the club.do you have your own opinion? Or are you a yes man? The club could sell the whole squad and you would happily clap Nd cheer them on.just like you did when Lowe was in charge.oh and stop self medicating.
Actually Samuel shiteforbrains, I find his posts generally well thought through and not full of the chavish, dim, over-emotional, inaccurate trite blx that yours usually are. I'm sure if Rambo decides he needs reinforcements he will know the sort of player he wants and how much he and Les decide to spend. I like the fact they keep it realistic and conservative because that means our club is properly run and unlikely to be in the position we found ourselves in a few short years ago. That can never happen again. If you want something different buy the club and spend your own cash on the the sort of risks you require.
Not going to happen is it? So either agree to be content with how Les spends whatever amount Katharina allots him or pish off and support moneybags schitty and their spending habits.
Quite simple really, even you should be able to grasp it.
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: So much paper talk Lovren is meant to be going so Saints must surely be interested in Caulker let us make a news story. I would in truth like to think Saints were a little more adventurous than that. Its awkward for Koeman he needs to see how friendlies go and how things settle to identify weaknesses, what Poch saw as a weakness Koeman may not. We need a left back but do we need two? He still has around 50 mil to spend am sure it will be spent as he identifies who he wants and the wage structure will have to change Lallana and Shaw have shown us that.[/p][/quote]He as two Nat Clyne is almost as good down the left as he is down the right.[/p][/quote]Clyne is brilliant cover for left back and always does a good job there. But he is right footed and will always cut inside so he is only cover for LB in emergency.[/p][/quote]Just out of interest, and not being awkward, where does the 50M to spend come from? If I recall Les Reed told us months ago that around 100M would be available for new players. Since then Alan and Luke have been sold adding a further approx. 50M which again we were promised would be used to buy new players. . So why are we losing not particularly earth shattering players by offering stupid low figures like 3M? What sort of player is that likely to be? Is it all down to the determination to avoid high wage bills. At the moment "silence is golden" on the transfer front but big Ron seems relaxed enough so perhaps something is happening which we fans are unaware of? Please someone at St Marys say something.[/p][/quote]when did les reed or anyone state how much money we had to spend? apart from saying all money from player sales would be reinvested there has never been an amount given. the club are never going to say that we have X amount to spend, why would they? it just tells other clubs how much they can take us for. there was I figure of £50mill going around the media before Ronnie signed, but that was never made public by the club, nor have they said its true or false. (adam) lielanna was sold for £25mill, but allmouth get 25% of that, and luke for £30mill, giving a total of around £48mill, or very nearly the £50mill that was quoted by the media. there was a figure of £100mill going around but that was the £50mill and player sales added. not £100mill and player sales, do you think we could have spent £100mill without selling any players? so far we have spent the money from lielana on 2 players and I have no doubt we will spend more. probably will be spent between this and the jan window, though that is just y opinion. I have no knowledge of SFC`s accounts so I don't know for sure, I am just clearing up your confusion over the total amount that has been suggested we have. I wish those who are moaning that we haven't brought anymore players would just calm down. I mean is only been 6 days since we last brought a player and the squad and manager have been away for that time. oh and the window doesn't shut when the first game kicks off echo1948, it continues until the end of august! players can gel quite quickly, especially if you buy the right ones and don't just panic buy because some fans have itchy feet. arsenil brought ozil on the last day of the window and he gelled straight away. outside sms today I looked at the number 2 ticket office, on a picture of fans underneath were written just two words, belief and faith, I think some fans have forgotten those two simple words.[/p][/quote]You are a real boring poster.i always get half way through and scroll down.its like reading a pr statement from the club.do you have your own opinion? Or are you a yes man? The club could sell the whole squad and you would happily clap Nd cheer them on.just like you did when Lowe was in charge.oh and stop self medicating.[/p][/quote]Actually Samuel shiteforbrains, I find his posts generally well thought through and not full of the chavish, dim, over-emotional, inaccurate trite blx that yours usually are. I'm sure if Rambo decides he needs reinforcements he will know the sort of player he wants and how much he and Les decide to spend. I like the fact they keep it realistic and conservative because that means our club is properly run and unlikely to be in the position we found ourselves in a few short years ago. That can never happen again. If you want something different buy the club and spend your own cash on the the sort of risks you require. Not going to happen is it? So either agree to be content with how Les spends whatever amount Katharina allots him or pish off and support moneybags schitty and their spending habits. Quite simple really, even you should be able to grasp it. jls217
  • Score: 8

9:41pm Fri 18 Jul 14

M.U.CS1 says...

Pictures getting a lot clearer, sell all your best players and put the money into Kats bank account, then buy a couple of cheap players no ones ever heard of before to keep the fans happy. All while selling season tickets on false pretences of signing top players, Ronald McDonald the manager then signs a three year contract knowing it will have to be paid up when he moves on ! brilliant business plan by all !
Pictures getting a lot clearer, sell all your best players and put the money into Kats bank account, then buy a couple of cheap players no ones ever heard of before to keep the fans happy. All while selling season tickets on false pretences of signing top players, Ronald McDonald the manager then signs a three year contract knowing it will have to be paid up when he moves on ! brilliant business plan by all ! M.U.CS1
  • Score: -10

9:47pm Fri 18 Jul 14

peregrine73 says...

markodarko29 wrote:
More signings soon or relegation battle here we come fact
At last some people are realising the reality of the situation!. Its quite simple: we needed squad strengthening at then end of last season,we lost three ofof our key players and lightly two more,in return two at best average replacements.A short time and the season starts,our youngsters are promising, but no where near the finished article.Let's face it,its not a recipe for success or what's more premiership survival!.We been hoodwinked over the money available for transfers,RK is brought in to try to fuse youngsters and what's left of the team for Premiership survival,its a big ask!
[quote][p][bold]markodarko29[/bold] wrote: More signings soon or relegation battle here we come fact[/p][/quote]At last some people are realising the reality of the situation!. Its quite simple: we needed squad strengthening at then end of last season,we lost three ofof our key players and lightly two more,in return two at best average replacements.A short time and the season starts,our youngsters are promising, but no where near the finished article.Let's face it,its not a recipe for success or what's more premiership survival!.We been hoodwinked over the money available for transfers,RK is brought in to try to fuse youngsters and what's left of the team for Premiership survival,its a big ask! peregrine73
  • Score: -4

9:48pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Invidia says...

M.U.CS1 wrote:
Pictures getting a lot clearer, sell all your best players and put the money into Kats bank account, then buy a couple of cheap players no ones ever heard of before to keep the fans happy. All while selling season tickets on false pretences of signing top players, Ronald McDonald the manager then signs a three year contract knowing it will have to be paid up when he moves on ! brilliant business plan by all !
How is it that the richest club in the world worth over a billion pounds can only finish 7 in the premier league and not win any silverware whatsoever last season, it must be because they have nobeds like you for fans.
[quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: Pictures getting a lot clearer, sell all your best players and put the money into Kats bank account, then buy a couple of cheap players no ones ever heard of before to keep the fans happy. All while selling season tickets on false pretences of signing top players, Ronald McDonald the manager then signs a three year contract knowing it will have to be paid up when he moves on ! brilliant business plan by all ![/p][/quote]How is it that the richest club in the world worth over a billion pounds can only finish 7 in the premier league and not win any silverware whatsoever last season, it must be because they have nobeds like you for fans. Invidia
  • Score: 5

9:53pm Fri 18 Jul 14

dadofmy3sons says...

M.U.CS1 wrote:
Pictures getting a lot clearer, sell all your best players and put the money into Kats bank account, then buy a couple of cheap players no ones ever heard of before to keep the fans happy. All while selling season tickets on false pretences of signing top players, Ronald McDonald the manager then signs a three year contract knowing it will have to be paid up when he moves on ! brilliant business plan by all !
for him to move up , he has to suceed.
At Saints.
For at least a season and a bit.
Or at least until November and we are above Tottingenham.
[quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: Pictures getting a lot clearer, sell all your best players and put the money into Kats bank account, then buy a couple of cheap players no ones ever heard of before to keep the fans happy. All while selling season tickets on false pretences of signing top players, Ronald McDonald the manager then signs a three year contract knowing it will have to be paid up when he moves on ! brilliant business plan by all ![/p][/quote]for him to move up , he has to suceed. At Saints. For at least a season and a bit. Or at least until November and we are above Tottingenham. dadofmy3sons
  • Score: 1

9:55pm Fri 18 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
As it appears to be a neggie fest, I will butt out tonight and concentrate on the Cricket, where no doubt Hampshire will fail miserably yet again.
Good news Hampshire beat Sussex by 6 runs thanks to Briggs 4 for.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: As it appears to be a neggie fest, I will butt out tonight and concentrate on the Cricket, where no doubt Hampshire will fail miserably yet again.[/p][/quote]Good news Hampshire beat Sussex by 6 runs thanks to Briggs 4 for. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -2

10:04pm Fri 18 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Invidia wrote:
M.U.CS1 wrote:
Pictures getting a lot clearer, sell all your best players and put the money into Kats bank account, then buy a couple of cheap players no ones ever heard of before to keep the fans happy. All while selling season tickets on false pretences of signing top players, Ronald McDonald the manager then signs a three year contract knowing it will have to be paid up when he moves on ! brilliant business plan by all !
How is it that the richest club in the world worth over a billion pounds can only finish 7 in the premier league and not win any silverware whatsoever last season, it must be because they have nobeds like you for fans.
invidia, hes no more a manure fan than you or I are.
as someone much cleverer than I pointed out the other day, if you take the 1 away and put the letters back to front you will find it spells `scum`. coincidence? no at all, hes one of our fishy friends. this one is pretending to be a manure fan, we have some that pretend to be diverpooh fans and spuds fans, the worst/funniest though are those that pretend to be saints fans! they are easy to spot because their posts stink of jealousy!
[quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: Pictures getting a lot clearer, sell all your best players and put the money into Kats bank account, then buy a couple of cheap players no ones ever heard of before to keep the fans happy. All while selling season tickets on false pretences of signing top players, Ronald McDonald the manager then signs a three year contract knowing it will have to be paid up when he moves on ! brilliant business plan by all ![/p][/quote]How is it that the richest club in the world worth over a billion pounds can only finish 7 in the premier league and not win any silverware whatsoever last season, it must be because they have nobeds like you for fans.[/p][/quote]invidia, hes no more a manure fan than you or I are. as someone much cleverer than I pointed out the other day, if you take the 1 away and put the letters back to front you will find it spells `scum`. coincidence? no at all, hes one of our fishy friends. this one is pretending to be a manure fan, we have some that pretend to be diverpooh fans and spuds fans, the worst/funniest though are those that pretend to be saints fans! they are easy to spot because their posts stink of jealousy! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 10

10:11pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Invidia says...

Thank you for that de heiligen paard. actually It occurred to me that he could have been a Maidstone united fan as we get so many weird posters on here.
Thank you for that de heiligen paard. actually It occurred to me that he could have been a Maidstone united fan as we get so many weird posters on here. Invidia
  • Score: 7

10:15pm Fri 18 Jul 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

Hi Everyone. I hope you will bear with my generalisation that like a lot of you Saints fans, I still struggle to accept the reality of a 'lower' clubs existance in the premier league. I have watched Saints been relegated twice, get saved by a swiss billionaire, and true to my hopes, with wisdom, patience and hard work, build a great team which have clawed their way back into the Prems with stunning success. I have to say that it has been disappointing to see Poch and a few key players go the way that they did (except Rickie) but I guess that's football in the EPL at the end of the day. That being said, I reckon that RoKo and the team deserve support and patience to establish a sound team foundation that continues cementing our reputation as a team that punches above it's weight. As much as I would hope to be in the top six or win some cups this year, I think that the security of knowing that we are developing our club with the short term intent of staying in the EPL, and retaining our name as a club that despite all odds can surprise the top level teams is a much more realistic and rewarding ambition at this stage. I would like to see our marketing strategy use this and our youth development reputation to keep the ball rolling, grow our name world wide and long term start attracting staff and players who want to play for the club for it's deserved prestige as well as the money.
Hi Everyone. I hope you will bear with my generalisation that like a lot of you Saints fans, I still struggle to accept the reality of a 'lower' clubs existance in the premier league. I have watched Saints been relegated twice, get saved by a swiss billionaire, and true to my hopes, with wisdom, patience and hard work, build a great team which have clawed their way back into the Prems with stunning success. I have to say that it has been disappointing to see Poch and a few key players go the way that they did (except Rickie) but I guess that's football in the EPL at the end of the day. That being said, I reckon that RoKo and the team deserve support and patience to establish a sound team foundation that continues cementing our reputation as a team that punches above it's weight. As much as I would hope to be in the top six or win some cups this year, I think that the security of knowing that we are developing our club with the short term intent of staying in the EPL, and retaining our name as a club that despite all odds can surprise the top level teams is a much more realistic and rewarding ambition at this stage. I would like to see our marketing strategy use this and our youth development reputation to keep the ball rolling, grow our name world wide and long term start attracting staff and players who want to play for the club for it's deserved prestige as well as the money. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 12

10:18pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Invidia says...

Invidia wrote:
Thank you for that de heiligen paard. actually It occurred to me that he could have been a Maidstone united fan as we get so many weird posters on here.
I don't usually get involved with the WUM's, I came home early and I was feeling a bit bored so I thought I would get a response to liven my Friday night up
[quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: Thank you for that de heiligen paard. actually It occurred to me that he could have been a Maidstone united fan as we get so many weird posters on here.[/p][/quote]I don't usually get involved with the WUM's, I came home early and I was feeling a bit bored so I thought I would get a response to liven my Friday night up Invidia
  • Score: 3

10:31pm Fri 18 Jul 14

echo1948 says...

elvis wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
Just seen a report that Arsenhole have opened talks with Saints about signing Spiderman for £15k. Another one on the way out that we won,t replace. Play the kids!
Echo 1948 ? Is that you're year of birth ? I'm just wondering coz my Dad was born in 1948 & he's a bloody miserable git !! Dad is that you ????
Yes that is the year I was born. I don,t consider myself as a "miserable git" just a genuine supporter and a realist.
[quote][p][bold]elvis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: Just seen a report that Arsenhole have opened talks with Saints about signing Spiderman for £15k. Another one on the way out that we won,t replace. Play the kids![/p][/quote]Echo 1948 ? Is that you're year of birth ? I'm just wondering coz my Dad was born in 1948 & he's a bloody miserable git !! Dad is that you ????[/p][/quote]Yes that is the year I was born. I don,t consider myself as a "miserable git" just a genuine supporter and a realist. echo1948
  • Score: -3

10:32pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Invidia says...

I think that for most fans we have been spoilt by the success over the last 5 or so seasons and our ambition increased whereby we are looking for more success and in fact we should be grateful that we are competing in the PL with the money that the top teams slosh around we can only hope that we compete on the pitch with them and give them a bloody nose now and again. Incidentally that is not being negative it is somewhere near being realistic.
I think that for most fans we have been spoilt by the success over the last 5 or so seasons and our ambition increased whereby we are looking for more success and in fact we should be grateful that we are competing in the PL with the money that the top teams slosh around we can only hope that we compete on the pitch with them and give them a bloody nose now and again. Incidentally that is not being negative it is somewhere near being realistic. Invidia
  • Score: 7

11:02pm Fri 18 Jul 14

jls217 says...

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
Hi Everyone. I hope you will bear with my generalisation that like a lot of you Saints fans, I still struggle to accept the reality of a 'lower' clubs existance in the premier league. I have watched Saints been relegated twice, get saved by a swiss billionaire, and true to my hopes, with wisdom, patience and hard work, build a great team which have clawed their way back into the Prems with stunning success. I have to say that it has been disappointing to see Poch and a few key players go the way that they did (except Rickie) but I guess that's football in the EPL at the end of the day. That being said, I reckon that RoKo and the team deserve support and patience to establish a sound team foundation that continues cementing our reputation as a team that punches above it's weight. As much as I would hope to be in the top six or win some cups this year, I think that the security of knowing that we are developing our club with the short term intent of staying in the EPL, and retaining our name as a club that despite all odds can surprise the top level teams is a much more realistic and rewarding ambition at this stage. I would like to see our marketing strategy use this and our youth development reputation to keep the ball rolling, grow our name world wide and long term start attracting staff and players who want to play for the club for it's deserved prestige as well as the money.
Great post - thanks.
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: Hi Everyone. I hope you will bear with my generalisation that like a lot of you Saints fans, I still struggle to accept the reality of a 'lower' clubs existance in the premier league. I have watched Saints been relegated twice, get saved by a swiss billionaire, and true to my hopes, with wisdom, patience and hard work, build a great team which have clawed their way back into the Prems with stunning success. I have to say that it has been disappointing to see Poch and a few key players go the way that they did (except Rickie) but I guess that's football in the EPL at the end of the day. That being said, I reckon that RoKo and the team deserve support and patience to establish a sound team foundation that continues cementing our reputation as a team that punches above it's weight. As much as I would hope to be in the top six or win some cups this year, I think that the security of knowing that we are developing our club with the short term intent of staying in the EPL, and retaining our name as a club that despite all odds can surprise the top level teams is a much more realistic and rewarding ambition at this stage. I would like to see our marketing strategy use this and our youth development reputation to keep the ball rolling, grow our name world wide and long term start attracting staff and players who want to play for the club for it's deserved prestige as well as the money.[/p][/quote]Great post - thanks. jls217
  • Score: 5

11:02pm Fri 18 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Invidia wrote:
I think that for most fans we have been spoilt by the success over the last 5 or so seasons and our ambition increased whereby we are looking for more success and in fact we should be grateful that we are competing in the PL with the money that the top teams slosh around we can only hope that we compete on the pitch with them and give them a bloody nose now and again. Incidentally that is not being negative it is somewhere near being realistic.
we cant compete with clubs like manure who have more than double our stadium capacity, sign a kit deal worth £75mill a year for 10 years and have just signed a new sponsorship deal with Chevrolet for an `undisclosed amount` which sky report as being worth £357 over 7 years.
so £75mill and around £51mill a year or £126mill a year and more than twice our gate receipts.

and before my new stalker mentions it, no I haven't managed to get my accountancy degree in the last few hours, and I don't have intimate knowledge of manures books, what I do have are facts that have been published by the club and the use of reports from sky regarding the figures manure haven't issued!
[quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: I think that for most fans we have been spoilt by the success over the last 5 or so seasons and our ambition increased whereby we are looking for more success and in fact we should be grateful that we are competing in the PL with the money that the top teams slosh around we can only hope that we compete on the pitch with them and give them a bloody nose now and again. Incidentally that is not being negative it is somewhere near being realistic.[/p][/quote]we cant compete with clubs like manure who have more than double our stadium capacity, sign a kit deal worth £75mill a year for 10 years and have just signed a new sponsorship deal with Chevrolet for an `undisclosed amount` which sky report as being worth £357 over 7 years. so £75mill and around £51mill a year or £126mill a year and more than twice our gate receipts. and before my new stalker mentions it, no I haven't managed to get my accountancy degree in the last few hours, and I don't have intimate knowledge of manures books, what I do have are facts that have been published by the club and the use of reports from sky regarding the figures manure haven't issued! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 5

11:06pm Fri 18 Jul 14

jls217 says...

echo1948 wrote:
elvis wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
Just seen a report that Arsenhole have opened talks with Saints about signing Spiderman for £15k. Another one on the way out that we won,t replace. Play the kids!
Echo 1948 ? Is that you're year of birth ? I'm just wondering coz my Dad was born in 1948 & he's a bloody miserable git !! Dad is that you ????
Yes that is the year I was born. I don,t consider myself as a "miserable git" just a genuine supporter and a realist.
Been reading these rumours and even headlines in various papers for weeks now mate. I wouldn't put any faith in any story until I see it on te BBC or on the Saints official site.
Like you I'm praying he stays but if he goes we'll use the money wisely and replace him accordingly.
Don't believe it until it happens.
[quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: Just seen a report that Arsenhole have opened talks with Saints about signing Spiderman for £15k. Another one on the way out that we won,t replace. Play the kids![/p][/quote]Echo 1948 ? Is that you're year of birth ? I'm just wondering coz my Dad was born in 1948 & he's a bloody miserable git !! Dad is that you ????[/p][/quote]Yes that is the year I was born. I don,t consider myself as a "miserable git" just a genuine supporter and a realist.[/p][/quote]Been reading these rumours and even headlines in various papers for weeks now mate. I wouldn't put any faith in any story until I see it on te BBC or on the Saints official site. Like you I'm praying he stays but if he goes we'll use the money wisely and replace him accordingly. Don't believe it until it happens. jls217
  • Score: 3

11:10pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
As it appears to be a neggie fest, I will butt out tonight and concentrate on the Cricket, where no doubt Hampshire will fail miserably yet again.
Good news Hampshire beat Sussex by 6 runs thanks to Briggs 4 for.
Just got back. It was a great game and saw Hampshirrrrre qualify. Went with Slugger and he's still very optimistic about the Saints so let's hope he's proved right.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: As it appears to be a neggie fest, I will butt out tonight and concentrate on the Cricket, where no doubt Hampshire will fail miserably yet again.[/p][/quote]Good news Hampshire beat Sussex by 6 runs thanks to Briggs 4 for.[/p][/quote]Just got back. It was a great game and saw Hampshirrrrre qualify. Went with Slugger and he's still very optimistic about the Saints so let's hope he's proved right. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 3

11:20pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

echo1948 wrote:
Just seen a report that Arsenhole have opened talks with Saints about signing Spiderman for £15k. Another one on the way out that we won,t replace. Play the kids!
I would sooner keep Morgan than either Adam or Luke. If they do sell him I would expect it to be nearer £30m than £20m, £15m is a joke. That's about what Dani Osdildo cost ffs!
[quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: Just seen a report that Arsenhole have opened talks with Saints about signing Spiderman for £15k. Another one on the way out that we won,t replace. Play the kids![/p][/quote]I would sooner keep Morgan than either Adam or Luke. If they do sell him I would expect it to be nearer £30m than £20m, £15m is a joke. That's about what Dani Osdildo cost ffs! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 7

12:45am Sat 19 Jul 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

It's easy for me to say, and maybe it is an un-democratic ideal but I reckon that focusing on building a team that understands each other to the point of knowing where everyone is, and where to go on the pitch to almost clairvoyant ability is what we need to fashion, rather than focus on building a team around individual players who could leave at any given time. This would make slotting new imports / youth players in a lot easier. The problem is that this approach takes time and patience to develop, but would yield more successful and lasting results in my opinion.
It's easy for me to say, and maybe it is an un-democratic ideal but I reckon that focusing on building a team that understands each other to the point of knowing where everyone is, and where to go on the pitch to almost clairvoyant ability is what we need to fashion, rather than focus on building a team around individual players who could leave at any given time. This would make slotting new imports / youth players in a lot easier. The problem is that this approach takes time and patience to develop, but would yield more successful and lasting results in my opinion. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 6

4:10am Sat 19 Jul 14

Chipmonk1 says...

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
It's easy for me to say, and maybe it is an un-democratic ideal but I reckon that focusing on building a team that understands each other to the point of knowing where everyone is, and where to go on the pitch to almost clairvoyant ability is what we need to fashion, rather than focus on building a team around individual players who could leave at any given time. This would make slotting new imports / youth players in a lot easier. The problem is that this approach takes time and patience to develop, but would yield more successful and lasting results in my opinion.
Couldn't agree more. Since financial fair play rules came in saints can not hope, in the short time, to compete with some clubs in the transfer market. The key is to have a team that plays better than the some of its parts and hope to beat teams that are lesser than the sum of theirs. This is why I am happy with the appointment of RoKo. He has achieved this at Feynoord and although the premier league is obviously tougher I am hopeful he can replicate it.
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: It's easy for me to say, and maybe it is an un-democratic ideal but I reckon that focusing on building a team that understands each other to the point of knowing where everyone is, and where to go on the pitch to almost clairvoyant ability is what we need to fashion, rather than focus on building a team around individual players who could leave at any given time. This would make slotting new imports / youth players in a lot easier. The problem is that this approach takes time and patience to develop, but would yield more successful and lasting results in my opinion.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. Since financial fair play rules came in saints can not hope, in the short time, to compete with some clubs in the transfer market. The key is to have a team that plays better than the some of its parts and hope to beat teams that are lesser than the sum of theirs. This is why I am happy with the appointment of RoKo. He has achieved this at Feynoord and although the premier league is obviously tougher I am hopeful he can replicate it. Chipmonk1
  • Score: 7

6:51am Sat 19 Jul 14

Sammy2sheds says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
spratt wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
jls217 wrote:
milton road wrote:
So much paper talk Lovren is meant to be going so Saints must surely be interested in Caulker let us make a news story. I would in truth like to think Saints were a little more adventurous than that.
Its awkward for Koeman he needs to see how friendlies go and how things settle to identify weaknesses, what Poch saw as a weakness Koeman may not. We need a left back but do we need two? He still has around 50 mil to spend am sure it will be spent as he identifies who he wants and the wage structure will have to change Lallana and Shaw have shown us that.
He as two Nat Clyne is almost as good down the left as he is down the right.
Clyne is brilliant cover for left back and always does a good job there. But he is right footed and will always cut inside so he is only cover for LB in emergency.
Just out of interest, and not being awkward, where does the 50M to spend come from? If I recall Les Reed told us months ago that around 100M would be available for new players. Since then Alan and Luke have been sold adding a further approx. 50M which again we were promised would be used to buy new players. . So why are we losing not particularly earth shattering players by offering stupid low figures like 3M? What sort of player is that likely to be? Is it all down to the determination to avoid high wage bills. At the moment "silence is golden" on the transfer front but big Ron seems relaxed enough so perhaps something is happening which we fans are unaware of? Please someone at St Marys say something.
when did les reed or anyone state how much money we had to spend? apart from saying all money from player sales would be reinvested there has never been an amount given.
the club are never going to say that we have X amount to spend, why would they? it just tells other clubs how much they can take us for.
there was I figure of £50mill going around the media before Ronnie signed, but that was never made public by the club, nor have they said its true or false.
(adam) lielanna was sold for £25mill, but allmouth get 25% of that, and luke for £30mill, giving a total of around £48mill, or very nearly the £50mill that was quoted by the media. there was a figure of £100mill going around but that was the £50mill and player sales added. not £100mill and player sales, do you think we could have spent £100mill without selling any players? so far we have spent the money from lielana on 2 players and I have no doubt we will spend more. probably will be spent between this and the jan window, though that is just y opinion.
I have no knowledge of SFC`s accounts so I don't know for sure, I am just clearing up your confusion over the total amount that has been suggested we have.


I wish those who are moaning that we haven't brought anymore players would just calm down. I mean is only been 6 days since we last brought a player and the squad and manager have been away for that time.
oh and the window doesn't shut when the first game kicks off echo1948, it continues until the end of august! players can gel quite quickly, especially if you buy the right ones and don't just panic buy because some fans have itchy feet. arsenil brought ozil on the last day of the window and he gelled straight away.

outside sms today I looked at the number 2 ticket office, on a picture of fans underneath were written just two words, belief and faith, I think some fans have forgotten those two simple words.
You are a real boring poster.i always get half way through and scroll down.its like reading a pr statement from the club.do you have your own opinion? Or are you a yes man? The club could sell the whole squad and you would happily clap Nd cheer them on.just like you did when Lowe was in charge.oh and stop self medicating.
well done sammynobrains, no response to any questions that are put to you, like a typical WUM! so you go for the good old fashioned `divide and conquer` technique!
well if you only read half my posts at least that's better for you than the drivel you write. I know its not your usual `spot the dog` read and has lots of words so I can see why you would struggle.
as you have still to answer I will ask again and I will ask again in simple words that you might understand,
`what world class players have saints brought whilst KL has been the owner?` simple enough?
another quick question for you, `what area of sms do you have your season ticket in` and `where do you live in oz?` you've both so should be easy to answer!
enjoy Exeter!
Do you have to reply to every post on here? It makes you look a little.....sad.you wanna come over for a holiday? I could lend you the beach house down in wye river.start saving a bit of your giro every week and in 10 years time you can have the holiday of a lifetime.i will be back in a couple of weeks and I am in the chapel is all I'll say.gaston, lovren and osvaldo are all world class players.try not to reply to everyone's post again today les.say hi to Ralph for me, wherever he is.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: So much paper talk Lovren is meant to be going so Saints must surely be interested in Caulker let us make a news story. I would in truth like to think Saints were a little more adventurous than that. Its awkward for Koeman he needs to see how friendlies go and how things settle to identify weaknesses, what Poch saw as a weakness Koeman may not. We need a left back but do we need two? He still has around 50 mil to spend am sure it will be spent as he identifies who he wants and the wage structure will have to change Lallana and Shaw have shown us that.[/p][/quote]He as two Nat Clyne is almost as good down the left as he is down the right.[/p][/quote]Clyne is brilliant cover for left back and always does a good job there. But he is right footed and will always cut inside so he is only cover for LB in emergency.[/p][/quote]Just out of interest, and not being awkward, where does the 50M to spend come from? If I recall Les Reed told us months ago that around 100M would be available for new players. Since then Alan and Luke have been sold adding a further approx. 50M which again we were promised would be used to buy new players. . So why are we losing not particularly earth shattering players by offering stupid low figures like 3M? What sort of player is that likely to be? Is it all down to the determination to avoid high wage bills. At the moment "silence is golden" on the transfer front but big Ron seems relaxed enough so perhaps something is happening which we fans are unaware of? Please someone at St Marys say something.[/p][/quote]when did les reed or anyone state how much money we had to spend? apart from saying all money from player sales would be reinvested there has never been an amount given. the club are never going to say that we have X amount to spend, why would they? it just tells other clubs how much they can take us for. there was I figure of £50mill going around the media before Ronnie signed, but that was never made public by the club, nor have they said its true or false. (adam) lielanna was sold for £25mill, but allmouth get 25% of that, and luke for £30mill, giving a total of around £48mill, or very nearly the £50mill that was quoted by the media. there was a figure of £100mill going around but that was the £50mill and player sales added. not £100mill and player sales, do you think we could have spent £100mill without selling any players? so far we have spent the money from lielana on 2 players and I have no doubt we will spend more. probably will be spent between this and the jan window, though that is just y opinion. I have no knowledge of SFC`s accounts so I don't know for sure, I am just clearing up your confusion over the total amount that has been suggested we have. I wish those who are moaning that we haven't brought anymore players would just calm down. I mean is only been 6 days since we last brought a player and the squad and manager have been away for that time. oh and the window doesn't shut when the first game kicks off echo1948, it continues until the end of august! players can gel quite quickly, especially if you buy the right ones and don't just panic buy because some fans have itchy feet. arsenil brought ozil on the last day of the window and he gelled straight away. outside sms today I looked at the number 2 ticket office, on a picture of fans underneath were written just two words, belief and faith, I think some fans have forgotten those two simple words.[/p][/quote]You are a real boring poster.i always get half way through and scroll down.its like reading a pr statement from the club.do you have your own opinion? Or are you a yes man? The club could sell the whole squad and you would happily clap Nd cheer them on.just like you did when Lowe was in charge.oh and stop self medicating.[/p][/quote]well done sammynobrains, no response to any questions that are put to you, like a typical WUM! so you go for the good old fashioned `divide and conquer` technique! well if you only read half my posts at least that's better for you than the drivel you write. I know its not your usual `spot the dog` read and has lots of words so I can see why you would struggle. as you have still to answer I will ask again and I will ask again in simple words that you might understand, `what world class players have saints brought whilst KL has been the owner?` simple enough? another quick question for you, `what area of sms do you have your season ticket in` and `where do you live in oz?` you've both so should be easy to answer! enjoy Exeter![/p][/quote]Do you have to reply to every post on here? It makes you look a little.....sad.you wanna come over for a holiday? I could lend you the beach house down in wye river.start saving a bit of your giro every week and in 10 years time you can have the holiday of a lifetime.i will be back in a couple of weeks and I am in the chapel is all I'll say.gaston, lovren and osvaldo are all world class players.try not to reply to everyone's post again today les.say hi to Ralph for me, wherever he is. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: -4

7:26am Sat 19 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
It's easy for me to say, and maybe it is an un-democratic ideal but I reckon that focusing on building a team that understands each other to the point of knowing where everyone is, and where to go on the pitch to almost clairvoyant ability is what we need to fashion, rather than focus on building a team around individual players who could leave at any given time. This would make slotting new imports / youth players in a lot easier. The problem is that this approach takes time and patience to develop, but would yield more successful and lasting results in my opinion.
Surely that is what we did over the last five years? That's why a bunch of kids and Div1 players punched above their weight to finish 8th in their second season in the Prem. The expensive signings didn't really match them or force their way into the team because it was too strong for them.
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: It's easy for me to say, and maybe it is an un-democratic ideal but I reckon that focusing on building a team that understands each other to the point of knowing where everyone is, and where to go on the pitch to almost clairvoyant ability is what we need to fashion, rather than focus on building a team around individual players who could leave at any given time. This would make slotting new imports / youth players in a lot easier. The problem is that this approach takes time and patience to develop, but would yield more successful and lasting results in my opinion.[/p][/quote]Surely that is what we did over the last five years? That's why a bunch of kids and Div1 players punched above their weight to finish 8th in their second season in the Prem. The expensive signings didn't really match them or force their way into the team because it was too strong for them. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 7

8:10am Sat 19 Jul 14

Sammy2sheds says...

jls217 wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
spratt wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
jls217 wrote:
milton road wrote:
So much paper talk Lovren is meant to be going so Saints must surely be interested in Caulker let us make a news story. I would in truth like to think Saints were a little more adventurous than that.
Its awkward for Koeman he needs to see how friendlies go and how things settle to identify weaknesses, what Poch saw as a weakness Koeman may not. We need a left back but do we need two? He still has around 50 mil to spend am sure it will be spent as he identifies who he wants and the wage structure will have to change Lallana and Shaw have shown us that.
He as two Nat Clyne is almost as good down the left as he is down the right.
Clyne is brilliant cover for left back and always does a good job there. But he is right footed and will always cut inside so he is only cover for LB in emergency.
Just out of interest, and not being awkward, where does the 50M to spend come from? If I recall Les Reed told us months ago that around 100M would be available for new players. Since then Alan and Luke have been sold adding a further approx. 50M which again we were promised would be used to buy new players. . So why are we losing not particularly earth shattering players by offering stupid low figures like 3M? What sort of player is that likely to be? Is it all down to the determination to avoid high wage bills. At the moment "silence is golden" on the transfer front but big Ron seems relaxed enough so perhaps something is happening which we fans are unaware of? Please someone at St Marys say something.
when did les reed or anyone state how much money we had to spend? apart from saying all money from player sales would be reinvested there has never been an amount given.
the club are never going to say that we have X amount to spend, why would they? it just tells other clubs how much they can take us for.
there was I figure of £50mill going around the media before Ronnie signed, but that was never made public by the club, nor have they said its true or false.
(adam) lielanna was sold for £25mill, but allmouth get 25% of that, and luke for £30mill, giving a total of around £48mill, or very nearly the £50mill that was quoted by the media. there was a figure of £100mill going around but that was the £50mill and player sales added. not £100mill and player sales, do you think we could have spent £100mill without selling any players? so far we have spent the money from lielana on 2 players and I have no doubt we will spend more. probably will be spent between this and the jan window, though that is just y opinion.
I have no knowledge of SFC`s accounts so I don't know for sure, I am just clearing up your confusion over the total amount that has been suggested we have.


I wish those who are moaning that we haven't brought anymore players would just calm down. I mean is only been 6 days since we last brought a player and the squad and manager have been away for that time.
oh and the window doesn't shut when the first game kicks off echo1948, it continues until the end of august! players can gel quite quickly, especially if you buy the right ones and don't just panic buy because some fans have itchy feet. arsenil brought ozil on the last day of the window and he gelled straight away.

outside sms today I looked at the number 2 ticket office, on a picture of fans underneath were written just two words, belief and faith, I think some fans have forgotten those two simple words.
You are a real boring poster.i always get half way through and scroll down.its like reading a pr statement from the club.do you have your own opinion? Or are you a yes man? The club could sell the whole squad and you would happily clap Nd cheer them on.just like you did when Lowe was in charge.oh and stop self medicating.
Actually Samuel shiteforbrains, I find his posts generally well thought through and not full of the chavish, dim, over-emotional, inaccurate trite blx that yours usually are. I'm sure if Rambo decides he needs reinforcements he will know the sort of player he wants and how much he and Les decide to spend. I like the fact they keep it realistic and conservative because that means our club is properly run and unlikely to be in the position we found ourselves in a few short years ago. That can never happen again. If you want something different buy the club and spend your own cash on the the sort of risks you require.
Not going to happen is it? So either agree to be content with how Les spends whatever amount Katharina allots him or pish off and support moneybags schitty and their spending habits.
Quite simple really, even you should be able to grasp it.
I will never just blindly agree with individuals who currently run the club.individuals come and go.when you were blindly following Rupert Lowe some of us spoke out.clubs should always be questioned and held accountable to supporters. Hieligen is a yes man and it thinks it owns these comment sections.unless we agree with your views we are called skates,wums and worse,what arrogance.not everyone is happy that we sold are 3 best players as soon as the transfer window opened.ever thought about why these 3 were allowed to leave so soon after the transfer window opened.we did Liverpool and Man U a big favour there,they will be nice and settled when the season starts.what about us? Oh yeah we are still trying to find a left back and bed in 2 foreign journeymen.i hear spurs and saints are in talks for Morgan to move.more good work from les? You going to back him if he sells Morgan?and lovren? Yeah you will because the clubs never wrong is it?
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: So much paper talk Lovren is meant to be going so Saints must surely be interested in Caulker let us make a news story. I would in truth like to think Saints were a little more adventurous than that. Its awkward for Koeman he needs to see how friendlies go and how things settle to identify weaknesses, what Poch saw as a weakness Koeman may not. We need a left back but do we need two? He still has around 50 mil to spend am sure it will be spent as he identifies who he wants and the wage structure will have to change Lallana and Shaw have shown us that.[/p][/quote]He as two Nat Clyne is almost as good down the left as he is down the right.[/p][/quote]Clyne is brilliant cover for left back and always does a good job there. But he is right footed and will always cut inside so he is only cover for LB in emergency.[/p][/quote]Just out of interest, and not being awkward, where does the 50M to spend come from? If I recall Les Reed told us months ago that around 100M would be available for new players. Since then Alan and Luke have been sold adding a further approx. 50M which again we were promised would be used to buy new players. . So why are we losing not particularly earth shattering players by offering stupid low figures like 3M? What sort of player is that likely to be? Is it all down to the determination to avoid high wage bills. At the moment "silence is golden" on the transfer front but big Ron seems relaxed enough so perhaps something is happening which we fans are unaware of? Please someone at St Marys say something.[/p][/quote]when did les reed or anyone state how much money we had to spend? apart from saying all money from player sales would be reinvested there has never been an amount given. the club are never going to say that we have X amount to spend, why would they? it just tells other clubs how much they can take us for. there was I figure of £50mill going around the media before Ronnie signed, but that was never made public by the club, nor have they said its true or false. (adam) lielanna was sold for £25mill, but allmouth get 25% of that, and luke for £30mill, giving a total of around £48mill, or very nearly the £50mill that was quoted by the media. there was a figure of £100mill going around but that was the £50mill and player sales added. not £100mill and player sales, do you think we could have spent £100mill without selling any players? so far we have spent the money from lielana on 2 players and I have no doubt we will spend more. probably will be spent between this and the jan window, though that is just y opinion. I have no knowledge of SFC`s accounts so I don't know for sure, I am just clearing up your confusion over the total amount that has been suggested we have. I wish those who are moaning that we haven't brought anymore players would just calm down. I mean is only been 6 days since we last brought a player and the squad and manager have been away for that time. oh and the window doesn't shut when the first game kicks off echo1948, it continues until the end of august! players can gel quite quickly, especially if you buy the right ones and don't just panic buy because some fans have itchy feet. arsenil brought ozil on the last day of the window and he gelled straight away. outside sms today I looked at the number 2 ticket office, on a picture of fans underneath were written just two words, belief and faith, I think some fans have forgotten those two simple words.[/p][/quote]You are a real boring poster.i always get half way through and scroll down.its like reading a pr statement from the club.do you have your own opinion? Or are you a yes man? The club could sell the whole squad and you would happily clap Nd cheer them on.just like you did when Lowe was in charge.oh and stop self medicating.[/p][/quote]Actually Samuel shiteforbrains, I find his posts generally well thought through and not full of the chavish, dim, over-emotional, inaccurate trite blx that yours usually are. I'm sure if Rambo decides he needs reinforcements he will know the sort of player he wants and how much he and Les decide to spend. I like the fact they keep it realistic and conservative because that means our club is properly run and unlikely to be in the position we found ourselves in a few short years ago. That can never happen again. If you want something different buy the club and spend your own cash on the the sort of risks you require. Not going to happen is it? So either agree to be content with how Les spends whatever amount Katharina allots him or pish off and support moneybags schitty and their spending habits. Quite simple really, even you should be able to grasp it.[/p][/quote]I will never just blindly agree with individuals who currently run the club.individuals come and go.when you were blindly following Rupert Lowe some of us spoke out.clubs should always be questioned and held accountable to supporters. Hieligen is a yes man and it thinks it owns these comment sections.unless we agree with your views we are called skates,wums and worse,what arrogance.not everyone is happy that we sold are 3 best players as soon as the transfer window opened.ever thought about why these 3 were allowed to leave so soon after the transfer window opened.we did Liverpool and Man U a big favour there,they will be nice and settled when the season starts.what about us? Oh yeah we are still trying to find a left back and bed in 2 foreign journeymen.i hear spurs and saints are in talks for Morgan to move.more good work from les? You going to back him if he sells Morgan?and lovren? Yeah you will because the clubs never wrong is it? Sammy2sheds
  • Score: -5

8:16am Sat 19 Jul 14

Chipmonk1 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
It's easy for me to say, and maybe it is an un-democratic ideal but I reckon that focusing on building a team that understands each other to the point of knowing where everyone is, and where to go on the pitch to almost clairvoyant ability is what we need to fashion, rather than focus on building a team around individual players who could leave at any given time. This would make slotting new imports / youth players in a lot easier. The problem is that this approach takes time and patience to develop, but would yield more successful and lasting results in my opinion.
Surely that is what we did over the last five years? That's why a bunch of kids and Div1 players punched above their weight to finish 8th in their second season in the Prem. The expensive signings didn't really match them or force their way into the team because it was too strong for them.
My point exactly. Mourinho lamented tgat some of his players could not lift themselves for games against lesser lights. Whereas saints seemed to be up for every game and but for a game plan that sought to walk the ball in to the back of the net we maybe would have had more points. Hard work and some talent beats talent and little hard work (or words to that effect). Those who follow Saints on twitter will know what I mean and where that came from
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: It's easy for me to say, and maybe it is an un-democratic ideal but I reckon that focusing on building a team that understands each other to the point of knowing where everyone is, and where to go on the pitch to almost clairvoyant ability is what we need to fashion, rather than focus on building a team around individual players who could leave at any given time. This would make slotting new imports / youth players in a lot easier. The problem is that this approach takes time and patience to develop, but would yield more successful and lasting results in my opinion.[/p][/quote]Surely that is what we did over the last five years? That's why a bunch of kids and Div1 players punched above their weight to finish 8th in their second season in the Prem. The expensive signings didn't really match them or force their way into the team because it was too strong for them.[/p][/quote]My point exactly. Mourinho lamented tgat some of his players could not lift themselves for games against lesser lights. Whereas saints seemed to be up for every game and but for a game plan that sought to walk the ball in to the back of the net we maybe would have had more points. Hard work and some talent beats talent and little hard work (or words to that effect). Those who follow Saints on twitter will know what I mean and where that came from Chipmonk1
  • Score: 5

8:24am Sat 19 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
As it appears to be a neggie fest, I will butt out tonight and concentrate on the Cricket, where no doubt Hampshire will fail miserably yet again.
Good news Hampshire beat Sussex by 6 runs thanks to Briggs 4 for.
Just got back. It was a great game and saw Hampshirrrrre qualify. Went with Slugger and he's still very optimistic about the Saints so let's hope he's proved right.
I envy you being there, it was good to listen to it on line, after their recent wobble it was a relief that they were able to get back on track and qualify for the next round. What a pity Saints don't have the same enthusiasm for Cup Competitions, there is a lot of fun to be had from a successful Cup run!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: As it appears to be a neggie fest, I will butt out tonight and concentrate on the Cricket, where no doubt Hampshire will fail miserably yet again.[/p][/quote]Good news Hampshire beat Sussex by 6 runs thanks to Briggs 4 for.[/p][/quote]Just got back. It was a great game and saw Hampshirrrrre qualify. Went with Slugger and he's still very optimistic about the Saints so let's hope he's proved right.[/p][/quote]I envy you being there, it was good to listen to it on line, after their recent wobble it was a relief that they were able to get back on track and qualify for the next round. What a pity Saints don't have the same enthusiasm for Cup Competitions, there is a lot of fun to be had from a successful Cup run! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

8:32am Sat 19 Jul 14

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
Just seen a report that Arsenhole have opened talks with Saints about signing Spiderman for £15k. Another one on the way out that we won,t replace. Play the kids!
I would sooner keep Morgan than either Adam or Luke. If they do sell him I would expect it to be nearer £30m than £20m, £15m is a joke. That's about what Dani Osdildo cost ffs!
I will be seriously p!ssed of if Morgs goes. Probably more so than any other player. Part of me thinks, "Well he has been at Saints through thick and thin and maybe he deserves a move," but then I think about what would be left and what it says about our club and I just hope the club have the balls to keep him.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: Just seen a report that Arsenhole have opened talks with Saints about signing Spiderman for £15k. Another one on the way out that we won,t replace. Play the kids![/p][/quote]I would sooner keep Morgan than either Adam or Luke. If they do sell him I would expect it to be nearer £30m than £20m, £15m is a joke. That's about what Dani Osdildo cost ffs![/p][/quote]I will be seriously p!ssed of if Morgs goes. Probably more so than any other player. Part of me thinks, "Well he has been at Saints through thick and thin and maybe he deserves a move," but then I think about what would be left and what it says about our club and I just hope the club have the balls to keep him. Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
  • Score: 2

8:51am Sat 19 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
spratt wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
jls217 wrote:
milton road wrote:
So much paper talk Lovren is meant to be going so Saints must surely be interested in Caulker let us make a news story. I would in truth like to think Saints were a little more adventurous than that.
Its awkward for Koeman he needs to see how friendlies go and how things settle to identify weaknesses, what Poch saw as a weakness Koeman may not. We need a left back but do we need two? He still has around 50 mil to spend am sure it will be spent as he identifies who he wants and the wage structure will have to change Lallana and Shaw have shown us that.
He as two Nat Clyne is almost as good down the left as he is down the right.
Clyne is brilliant cover for left back and always does a good job there. But he is right footed and will always cut inside so he is only cover for LB in emergency.
Just out of interest, and not being awkward, where does the 50M to spend come from? If I recall Les Reed told us months ago that around 100M would be available for new players. Since then Alan and Luke have been sold adding a further approx. 50M which again we were promised would be used to buy new players. . So why are we losing not particularly earth shattering players by offering stupid low figures like 3M? What sort of player is that likely to be? Is it all down to the determination to avoid high wage bills. At the moment "silence is golden" on the transfer front but big Ron seems relaxed enough so perhaps something is happening which we fans are unaware of? Please someone at St Marys say something.
when did les reed or anyone state how much money we had to spend? apart from saying all money from player sales would be reinvested there has never been an amount given.
the club are never going to say that we have X amount to spend, why would they? it just tells other clubs how much they can take us for.
there was I figure of £50mill going around the media before Ronnie signed, but that was never made public by the club, nor have they said its true or false.
(adam) lielanna was sold for £25mill, but allmouth get 25% of that, and luke for £30mill, giving a total of around £48mill, or very nearly the £50mill that was quoted by the media. there was a figure of £100mill going around but that was the £50mill and player sales added. not £100mill and player sales, do you think we could have spent £100mill without selling any players? so far we have spent the money from lielana on 2 players and I have no doubt we will spend more. probably will be spent between this and the jan window, though that is just y opinion.
I have no knowledge of SFC`s accounts so I don't know for sure, I am just clearing up your confusion over the total amount that has been suggested we have.


I wish those who are moaning that we haven't brought anymore players would just calm down. I mean is only been 6 days since we last brought a player and the squad and manager have been away for that time.
oh and the window doesn't shut when the first game kicks off echo1948, it continues until the end of august! players can gel quite quickly, especially if you buy the right ones and don't just panic buy because some fans have itchy feet. arsenil brought ozil on the last day of the window and he gelled straight away.

outside sms today I looked at the number 2 ticket office, on a picture of fans underneath were written just two words, belief and faith, I think some fans have forgotten those two simple words.
You are a real boring poster.i always get half way through and scroll down.its like reading a pr statement from the club.do you have your own opinion? Or are you a yes man? The club could sell the whole squad and you would happily clap Nd cheer them on.just like you did when Lowe was in charge.oh and stop self medicating.
Actually Samuel shiteforbrains, I find his posts generally well thought through and not full of the chavish, dim, over-emotional, inaccurate trite blx that yours usually are. I'm sure if Rambo decides he needs reinforcements he will know the sort of player he wants and how much he and Les decide to spend. I like the fact they keep it realistic and conservative because that means our club is properly run and unlikely to be in the position we found ourselves in a few short years ago. That can never happen again. If you want something different buy the club and spend your own cash on the the sort of risks you require.
Not going to happen is it? So either agree to be content with how Les spends whatever amount Katharina allots him or pish off and support moneybags schitty and their spending habits.
Quite simple really, even you should be able to grasp it.
I will never just blindly agree with individuals who currently run the club.individuals come and go.when you were blindly following Rupert Lowe some of us spoke out.clubs should always be questioned and held accountable to supporters. Hieligen is a yes man and it thinks it owns these comment sections.unless we agree with your views we are called skates,wums and worse,what arrogance.not everyone is happy that we sold are 3 best players as soon as the transfer window opened.ever thought about why these 3 were allowed to leave so soon after the transfer window opened.we did Liverpool and Man U a big favour there,they will be nice and settled when the season starts.what about us? Oh yeah we are still trying to find a left back and bed in 2 foreign journeymen.i hear spurs and saints are in talks for Morgan to move.more good work from les? You going to back him if he sells Morgan?and lovren? Yeah you will because the clubs never wrong is it?
I think you have a somewhat different / narrow minded / somewhat depressing / negative approach to things, compared to what the majority hold, we have as much right to do it our way as you have yours. You have it horribly wrong if you think any of us have been happy with what has gone on, but being realistic we also know that we cannot actually do anything about it, other than stating our views. We don't blindly follow, we support what we see, because that is all we have. We have as much chance of changing things by being in the UK as you have overseas, none at all. You say we are still looking for a left back, and are still likely to lose other players, I have no idea but if it happens, so be it, we all move on, in time departing players will be replaced and we support our new heroes. We all want better, we are handicapped by the system prevalent in the Premier, it isn't fair in my opinion, but it can be fought against by actions not words.
How did we get to be eighth last Season? Simple we performed better than the teams below us. Did you see that coming at the start of the Season, I doubt many others did, no matter how optimistic. Will we do better this Season? Who knows, but looking at what we have got I doubt it, but I will still hope, I will still support whatever. If there is a sudden improvement in the quality of the Squad I will be over the moon, we have to trust that our Club is doing their best to improve things, it is in their interest too.
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: So much paper talk Lovren is meant to be going so Saints must surely be interested in Caulker let us make a news story. I would in truth like to think Saints were a little more adventurous than that. Its awkward for Koeman he needs to see how friendlies go and how things settle to identify weaknesses, what Poch saw as a weakness Koeman may not. We need a left back but do we need two? He still has around 50 mil to spend am sure it will be spent as he identifies who he wants and the wage structure will have to change Lallana and Shaw have shown us that.[/p][/quote]He as two Nat Clyne is almost as good down the left as he is down the right.[/p][/quote]Clyne is brilliant cover for left back and always does a good job there. But he is right footed and will always cut inside so he is only cover for LB in emergency.[/p][/quote]Just out of interest, and not being awkward, where does the 50M to spend come from? If I recall Les Reed told us months ago that around 100M would be available for new players. Since then Alan and Luke have been sold adding a further approx. 50M which again we were promised would be used to buy new players. . So why are we losing not particularly earth shattering players by offering stupid low figures like 3M? What sort of player is that likely to be? Is it all down to the determination to avoid high wage bills. At the moment "silence is golden" on the transfer front but big Ron seems relaxed enough so perhaps something is happening which we fans are unaware of? Please someone at St Marys say something.[/p][/quote]when did les reed or anyone state how much money we had to spend? apart from saying all money from player sales would be reinvested there has never been an amount given. the club are never going to say that we have X amount to spend, why would they? it just tells other clubs how much they can take us for. there was I figure of £50mill going around the media before Ronnie signed, but that was never made public by the club, nor have they said its true or false. (adam) lielanna was sold for £25mill, but allmouth get 25% of that, and luke for £30mill, giving a total of around £48mill, or very nearly the £50mill that was quoted by the media. there was a figure of £100mill going around but that was the £50mill and player sales added. not £100mill and player sales, do you think we could have spent £100mill without selling any players? so far we have spent the money from lielana on 2 players and I have no doubt we will spend more. probably will be spent between this and the jan window, though that is just y opinion. I have no knowledge of SFC`s accounts so I don't know for sure, I am just clearing up your confusion over the total amount that has been suggested we have. I wish those who are moaning that we haven't brought anymore players would just calm down. I mean is only been 6 days since we last brought a player and the squad and manager have been away for that time. oh and the window doesn't shut when the first game kicks off echo1948, it continues until the end of august! players can gel quite quickly, especially if you buy the right ones and don't just panic buy because some fans have itchy feet. arsenil brought ozil on the last day of the window and he gelled straight away. outside sms today I looked at the number 2 ticket office, on a picture of fans underneath were written just two words, belief and faith, I think some fans have forgotten those two simple words.[/p][/quote]You are a real boring poster.i always get half way through and scroll down.its like reading a pr statement from the club.do you have your own opinion? Or are you a yes man? The club could sell the whole squad and you would happily clap Nd cheer them on.just like you did when Lowe was in charge.oh and stop self medicating.[/p][/quote]Actually Samuel shiteforbrains, I find his posts generally well thought through and not full of the chavish, dim, over-emotional, inaccurate trite blx that yours usually are. I'm sure if Rambo decides he needs reinforcements he will know the sort of player he wants and how much he and Les decide to spend. I like the fact they keep it realistic and conservative because that means our club is properly run and unlikely to be in the position we found ourselves in a few short years ago. That can never happen again. If you want something different buy the club and spend your own cash on the the sort of risks you require. Not going to happen is it? So either agree to be content with how Les spends whatever amount Katharina allots him or pish off and support moneybags schitty and their spending habits. Quite simple really, even you should be able to grasp it.[/p][/quote]I will never just blindly agree with individuals who currently run the club.individuals come and go.when you were blindly following Rupert Lowe some of us spoke out.clubs should always be questioned and held accountable to supporters. Hieligen is a yes man and it thinks it owns these comment sections.unless we agree with your views we are called skates,wums and worse,what arrogance.not everyone is happy that we sold are 3 best players as soon as the transfer window opened.ever thought about why these 3 were allowed to leave so soon after the transfer window opened.we did Liverpool and Man U a big favour there,they will be nice and settled when the season starts.what about us? Oh yeah we are still trying to find a left back and bed in 2 foreign journeymen.i hear spurs and saints are in talks for Morgan to move.more good work from les? You going to back him if he sells Morgan?and lovren? Yeah you will because the clubs never wrong is it?[/p][/quote]I think you have a somewhat different / narrow minded / somewhat depressing / negative approach to things, compared to what the majority hold, we have as much right to do it our way as you have yours. You have it horribly wrong if you think any of us have been happy with what has gone on, but being realistic we also know that we cannot actually do anything about it, other than stating our views. We don't blindly follow, we support what we see, because that is all we have. We have as much chance of changing things by being in the UK as you have overseas, none at all. You say we are still looking for a left back, and are still likely to lose other players, I have no idea but if it happens, so be it, we all move on, in time departing players will be replaced and we support our new heroes. We all want better, we are handicapped by the system prevalent in the Premier, it isn't fair in my opinion, but it can be fought against by actions not words. How did we get to be eighth last Season? Simple we performed better than the teams below us. Did you see that coming at the start of the Season, I doubt many others did, no matter how optimistic. Will we do better this Season? Who knows, but looking at what we have got I doubt it, but I will still hope, I will still support whatever. If there is a sudden improvement in the quality of the Squad I will be over the moon, we have to trust that our Club is doing their best to improve things, it is in their interest too. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 11

9:08am Sat 19 Jul 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Chipmonk1 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
It's easy for me to say, and maybe it is an un-democratic ideal but I reckon that focusing on building a team that understands each other to the point of knowing where everyone is, and where to go on the pitch to almost clairvoyant ability is what we need to fashion, rather than focus on building a team around individual players who could leave at any given time. This would make slotting new imports / youth players in a lot easier. The problem is that this approach takes time and patience to develop, but would yield more successful and lasting results in my opinion.
Surely that is what we did over the last five years? That's why a bunch of kids and Div1 players punched above their weight to finish 8th in their second season in the Prem. The expensive signings didn't really match them or force their way into the team because it was too strong for them.
My point exactly. Mourinho lamented tgat some of his players could not lift themselves for games against lesser lights. Whereas saints seemed to be up for every game and but for a game plan that sought to walk the ball in to the back of the net we maybe would have had more points. Hard work and some talent beats talent and little hard work (or words to that effect). Those who follow Saints on twitter will know what I mean and where that came from
I followed the scoring on the Beeb but not the commentary. It sounded exciting, and what a knock by Carbs!

I thought you said you were going, Ospers. Thank heavens for loyal Hampshire fans like Sluggs and Seed, eh? :-)

Anyone going to the Rose Bowl test match? I'll be over next w/e and was thinking of popping along one evening. Is it free after tea?
[quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: It's easy for me to say, and maybe it is an un-democratic ideal but I reckon that focusing on building a team that understands each other to the point of knowing where everyone is, and where to go on the pitch to almost clairvoyant ability is what we need to fashion, rather than focus on building a team around individual players who could leave at any given time. This would make slotting new imports / youth players in a lot easier. The problem is that this approach takes time and patience to develop, but would yield more successful and lasting results in my opinion.[/p][/quote]Surely that is what we did over the last five years? That's why a bunch of kids and Div1 players punched above their weight to finish 8th in their second season in the Prem. The expensive signings didn't really match them or force their way into the team because it was too strong for them.[/p][/quote]My point exactly. Mourinho lamented tgat some of his players could not lift themselves for games against lesser lights. Whereas saints seemed to be up for every game and but for a game plan that sought to walk the ball in to the back of the net we maybe would have had more points. Hard work and some talent beats talent and little hard work (or words to that effect). Those who follow Saints on twitter will know what I mean and where that came from[/p][/quote]I followed the scoring on the Beeb but not the commentary. It sounded exciting, and what a knock by Carbs! I thought you said you were going, Ospers. Thank heavens for loyal Hampshire fans like Sluggs and Seed, eh? :-) Anyone going to the Rose Bowl test match? I'll be over next w/e and was thinking of popping along one evening. Is it free after tea? Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 1

9:11am Sat 19 Jul 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
As it appears to be a neggie fest, I will butt out tonight and concentrate on the Cricket, where no doubt Hampshire will fail miserably yet again.
Good news Hampshire beat Sussex by 6 runs thanks to Briggs 4 for.
Just got back. It was a great game and saw Hampshirrrrre qualify. Went with Slugger and he's still very optimistic about the Saints so let's hope he's proved right.
I envy you being there, it was good to listen to it on line, after their recent wobble it was a relief that they were able to get back on track and qualify for the next round. What a pity Saints don't have the same enthusiasm for Cup Competitions, there is a lot of fun to be had from a successful Cup run!
Blimey, that's a first! How did my post get linked to Chipmonk like that! It was supposed to be linked to Ospers and Seed, so here it is again.
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I followed the scoring on the Beeb but not the commentary. It sounded exciting, and what a knock by Carbs!

I thought you said you were going, Ospers. Thank heavens for loyal Hampshire fans like Sluggs and Seed, eh? :-)

Anyone going to the Rose Bowl test match? I'll be over next w/e and was thinking of popping along one evening. Is it free after tea?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: As it appears to be a neggie fest, I will butt out tonight and concentrate on the Cricket, where no doubt Hampshire will fail miserably yet again.[/p][/quote]Good news Hampshire beat Sussex by 6 runs thanks to Briggs 4 for.[/p][/quote]Just got back. It was a great game and saw Hampshirrrrre qualify. Went with Slugger and he's still very optimistic about the Saints so let's hope he's proved right.[/p][/quote]I envy you being there, it was good to listen to it on line, after their recent wobble it was a relief that they were able to get back on track and qualify for the next round. What a pity Saints don't have the same enthusiasm for Cup Competitions, there is a lot of fun to be had from a successful Cup run![/p][/quote]Blimey, that's a first! How did my post get linked to Chipmonk like that! It was supposed to be linked to Ospers and Seed, so here it is again. .................... .................... .................... .................... ............. I followed the scoring on the Beeb but not the commentary. It sounded exciting, and what a knock by Carbs! I thought you said you were going, Ospers. Thank heavens for loyal Hampshire fans like Sluggs and Seed, eh? :-) Anyone going to the Rose Bowl test match? I'll be over next w/e and was thinking of popping along one evening. Is it free after tea? Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 2

9:40am Sat 19 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
As it appears to be a neggie fest, I will butt out tonight and concentrate on the Cricket, where no doubt Hampshire will fail miserably yet again.
Good news Hampshire beat Sussex by 6 runs thanks to Briggs 4 for.
Just got back. It was a great game and saw Hampshirrrrre qualify. Went with Slugger and he's still very optimistic about the Saints so let's hope he's proved right.
I envy you being there, it was good to listen to it on line, after their recent wobble it was a relief that they were able to get back on track and qualify for the next round. What a pity Saints don't have the same enthusiasm for Cup Competitions, there is a lot of fun to be had from a successful Cup run!
Blimey, that's a first! How did my post get linked to Chipmonk like that! It was supposed to be linked to Ospers and Seed, so here it is again.
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I followed the scoring on the Beeb but not the commentary. It sounded exciting, and what a knock by Carbs!

I thought you said you were going, Ospers. Thank heavens for loyal Hampshire fans like Sluggs and Seed, eh? :-)

Anyone going to the Rose Bowl test match? I'll be over next w/e and was thinking of popping along one evening. Is it free after tea?
I expect I'll go. On train enroute to Lords right now with Seed the Small.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: As it appears to be a neggie fest, I will butt out tonight and concentrate on the Cricket, where no doubt Hampshire will fail miserably yet again.[/p][/quote]Good news Hampshire beat Sussex by 6 runs thanks to Briggs 4 for.[/p][/quote]Just got back. It was a great game and saw Hampshirrrrre qualify. Went with Slugger and he's still very optimistic about the Saints so let's hope he's proved right.[/p][/quote]I envy you being there, it was good to listen to it on line, after their recent wobble it was a relief that they were able to get back on track and qualify for the next round. What a pity Saints don't have the same enthusiasm for Cup Competitions, there is a lot of fun to be had from a successful Cup run![/p][/quote]Blimey, that's a first! How did my post get linked to Chipmonk like that! It was supposed to be linked to Ospers and Seed, so here it is again. .................... .................... .................... .................... ............. I followed the scoring on the Beeb but not the commentary. It sounded exciting, and what a knock by Carbs! I thought you said you were going, Ospers. Thank heavens for loyal Hampshire fans like Sluggs and Seed, eh? :-) Anyone going to the Rose Bowl test match? I'll be over next w/e and was thinking of popping along one evening. Is it free after tea?[/p][/quote]I expect I'll go. On train enroute to Lords right now with Seed the Small. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -1

10:30am Sat 19 Jul 14

Sammy2sheds says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
spratt wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
jls217 wrote:
milton road wrote:
So much paper talk Lovren is meant to be going so Saints must surely be interested in Caulker let us make a news story. I would in truth like to think Saints were a little more adventurous than that.
Its awkward for Koeman he needs to see how friendlies go and how things settle to identify weaknesses, what Poch saw as a weakness Koeman may not. We need a left back but do we need two? He still has around 50 mil to spend am sure it will be spent as he identifies who he wants and the wage structure will have to change Lallana and Shaw have shown us that.
He as two Nat Clyne is almost as good down the left as he is down the right.
Clyne is brilliant cover for left back and always does a good job there. But he is right footed and will always cut inside so he is only cover for LB in emergency.
Just out of interest, and not being awkward, where does the 50M to spend come from? If I recall Les Reed told us months ago that around 100M would be available for new players. Since then Alan and Luke have been sold adding a further approx. 50M which again we were promised would be used to buy new players. . So why are we losing not particularly earth shattering players by offering stupid low figures like 3M? What sort of player is that likely to be? Is it all down to the determination to avoid high wage bills. At the moment "silence is golden" on the transfer front but big Ron seems relaxed enough so perhaps something is happening which we fans are unaware of? Please someone at St Marys say something.
when did les reed or anyone state how much money we had to spend? apart from saying all money from player sales would be reinvested there has never been an amount given.
the club are never going to say that we have X amount to spend, why would they? it just tells other clubs how much they can take us for.
there was I figure of £50mill going around the media before Ronnie signed, but that was never made public by the club, nor have they said its true or false.
(adam) lielanna was sold for £25mill, but allmouth get 25% of that, and luke for £30mill, giving a total of around £48mill, or very nearly the £50mill that was quoted by the media. there was a figure of £100mill going around but that was the £50mill and player sales added. not £100mill and player sales, do you think we could have spent £100mill without selling any players? so far we have spent the money from lielana on 2 players and I have no doubt we will spend more. probably will be spent between this and the jan window, though that is just y opinion.
I have no knowledge of SFC`s accounts so I don't know for sure, I am just clearing up your confusion over the total amount that has been suggested we have.


I wish those who are moaning that we haven't brought anymore players would just calm down. I mean is only been 6 days since we last brought a player and the squad and manager have been away for that time.
oh and the window doesn't shut when the first game kicks off echo1948, it continues until the end of august! players can gel quite quickly, especially if you buy the right ones and don't just panic buy because some fans have itchy feet. arsenil brought ozil on the last day of the window and he gelled straight away.

outside sms today I looked at the number 2 ticket office, on a picture of fans underneath were written just two words, belief and faith, I think some fans have forgotten those two simple words.
You are a real boring poster.i always get half way through and scroll down.its like reading a pr statement from the club.do you have your own opinion? Or are you a yes man? The club could sell the whole squad and you would happily clap Nd cheer them on.just like you did when Lowe was in charge.oh and stop self medicating.
Actually Samuel shiteforbrains, I find his posts generally well thought through and not full of the chavish, dim, over-emotional, inaccurate trite blx that yours usually are. I'm sure if Rambo decides he needs reinforcements he will know the sort of player he wants and how much he and Les decide to spend. I like the fact they keep it realistic and conservative because that means our club is properly run and unlikely to be in the position we found ourselves in a few short years ago. That can never happen again. If you want something different buy the club and spend your own cash on the the sort of risks you require.
Not going to happen is it? So either agree to be content with how Les spends whatever amount Katharina allots him or pish off and support moneybags schitty and their spending habits.
Quite simple really, even you should be able to grasp it.
I will never just blindly agree with individuals who currently run the club.individuals come and go.when you were blindly following Rupert Lowe some of us spoke out.clubs should always be questioned and held accountable to supporters. Hieligen is a yes man and it thinks it owns these comment sections.unless we agree with your views we are called skates,wums and worse,what arrogance.not everyone is happy that we sold are 3 best players as soon as the transfer window opened.ever thought about why these 3 were allowed to leave so soon after the transfer window opened.we did Liverpool and Man U a big favour there,they will be nice and settled when the season starts.what about us? Oh yeah we are still trying to find a left back and bed in 2 foreign journeymen.i hear spurs and saints are in talks for Morgan to move.more good work from les? You going to back him if he sells Morgan?and lovren? Yeah you will because the clubs never wrong is it?
I think you have a somewhat different / narrow minded / somewhat depressing / negative approach to things, compared to what the majority hold, we have as much right to do it our way as you have yours. You have it horribly wrong if you think any of us have been happy with what has gone on, but being realistic we also know that we cannot actually do anything about it, other than stating our views. We don't blindly follow, we support what we see, because that is all we have. We have as much chance of changing things by being in the UK as you have overseas, none at all. You say we are still looking for a left back, and are still likely to lose other players, I have no idea but if it happens, so be it, we all move on, in time departing players will be replaced and we support our new heroes. We all want better, we are handicapped by the system prevalent in the Premier, it isn't fair in my opinion, but it can be fought against by actions not words.
How did we get to be eighth last Season? Simple we performed better than the teams below us. Did you see that coming at the start of the Season, I doubt many others did, no matter how optimistic. Will we do better this Season? Who knows, but looking at what we have got I doubt it, but I will still hope, I will still support whatever. If there is a sudden improvement in the quality of the Squad I will be over the moon, we have to trust that our Club is doing their best to improve things, it is in their interest too.
Quite true very negative views from me but when you lose your chairman,your manager,your striker,your left back and your captain I think it is warranted.when I came on this site I had already read these comment sections for a long while.my first posts were up beat and positive.then I dared to offer an opinion that wasn't deemed acceptable by the comment police and duly set upon.so I did a little experiment and only posted the most boring inane positive things I could think of and guess what? Loads of thumbs up and friendly banter.i will continue to give my views no matter what you or the other police say.i have said before that as soon as the club make a positive move I will post positive.at the moment I believe we are being told bs by the club.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: So much paper talk Lovren is meant to be going so Saints must surely be interested in Caulker let us make a news story. I would in truth like to think Saints were a little more adventurous than that. Its awkward for Koeman he needs to see how friendlies go and how things settle to identify weaknesses, what Poch saw as a weakness Koeman may not. We need a left back but do we need two? He still has around 50 mil to spend am sure it will be spent as he identifies who he wants and the wage structure will have to change Lallana and Shaw have shown us that.[/p][/quote]He as two Nat Clyne is almost as good down the left as he is down the right.[/p][/quote]Clyne is brilliant cover for left back and always does a good job there. But he is right footed and will always cut inside so he is only cover for LB in emergency.[/p][/quote]Just out of interest, and not being awkward, where does the 50M to spend come from? If I recall Les Reed told us months ago that around 100M would be available for new players. Since then Alan and Luke have been sold adding a further approx. 50M which again we were promised would be used to buy new players. . So why are we losing not particularly earth shattering players by offering stupid low figures like 3M? What sort of player is that likely to be? Is it all down to the determination to avoid high wage bills. At the moment "silence is golden" on the transfer front but big Ron seems relaxed enough so perhaps something is happening which we fans are unaware of? Please someone at St Marys say something.[/p][/quote]when did les reed or anyone state how much money we had to spend? apart from saying all money from player sales would be reinvested there has never been an amount given. the club are never going to say that we have X amount to spend, why would they? it just tells other clubs how much they can take us for. there was I figure of £50mill going around the media before Ronnie signed, but that was never made public by the club, nor have they said its true or false. (adam) lielanna was sold for £25mill, but allmouth get 25% of that, and luke for £30mill, giving a total of around £48mill, or very nearly the £50mill that was quoted by the media. there was a figure of £100mill going around but that was the £50mill and player sales added. not £100mill and player sales, do you think we could have spent £100mill without selling any players? so far we have spent the money from lielana on 2 players and I have no doubt we will spend more. probably will be spent between this and the jan window, though that is just y opinion. I have no knowledge of SFC`s accounts so I don't know for sure, I am just clearing up your confusion over the total amount that has been suggested we have. I wish those who are moaning that we haven't brought anymore players would just calm down. I mean is only been 6 days since we last brought a player and the squad and manager have been away for that time. oh and the window doesn't shut when the first game kicks off echo1948, it continues until the end of august! players can gel quite quickly, especially if you buy the right ones and don't just panic buy because some fans have itchy feet. arsenil brought ozil on the last day of the window and he gelled straight away. outside sms today I looked at the number 2 ticket office, on a picture of fans underneath were written just two words, belief and faith, I think some fans have forgotten those two simple words.[/p][/quote]You are a real boring poster.i always get half way through and scroll down.its like reading a pr statement from the club.do you have your own opinion? Or are you a yes man? The club could sell the whole squad and you would happily clap Nd cheer them on.just like you did when Lowe was in charge.oh and stop self medicating.[/p][/quote]Actually Samuel shiteforbrains, I find his posts generally well thought through and not full of the chavish, dim, over-emotional, inaccurate trite blx that yours usually are. I'm sure if Rambo decides he needs reinforcements he will know the sort of player he wants and how much he and Les decide to spend. I like the fact they keep it realistic and conservative because that means our club is properly run and unlikely to be in the position we found ourselves in a few short years ago. That can never happen again. If you want something different buy the club and spend your own cash on the the sort of risks you require. Not going to happen is it? So either agree to be content with how Les spends whatever amount Katharina allots him or pish off and support moneybags schitty and their spending habits. Quite simple really, even you should be able to grasp it.[/p][/quote]I will never just blindly agree with individuals who currently run the club.individuals come and go.when you were blindly following Rupert Lowe some of us spoke out.clubs should always be questioned and held accountable to supporters. Hieligen is a yes man and it thinks it owns these comment sections.unless we agree with your views we are called skates,wums and worse,what arrogance.not everyone is happy that we sold are 3 best players as soon as the transfer window opened.ever thought about why these 3 were allowed to leave so soon after the transfer window opened.we did Liverpool and Man U a big favour there,they will be nice and settled when the season starts.what about us? Oh yeah we are still trying to find a left back and bed in 2 foreign journeymen.i hear spurs and saints are in talks for Morgan to move.more good work from les? You going to back him if he sells Morgan?and lovren? Yeah you will because the clubs never wrong is it?[/p][/quote]I think you have a somewhat different / narrow minded / somewhat depressing / negative approach to things, compared to what the majority hold, we have as much right to do it our way as you have yours. You have it horribly wrong if you think any of us have been happy with what has gone on, but being realistic we also know that we cannot actually do anything about it, other than stating our views. We don't blindly follow, we support what we see, because that is all we have. We have as much chance of changing things by being in the UK as you have overseas, none at all. You say we are still looking for a left back, and are still likely to lose other players, I have no idea but if it happens, so be it, we all move on, in time departing players will be replaced and we support our new heroes. We all want better, we are handicapped by the system prevalent in the Premier, it isn't fair in my opinion, but it can be fought against by actions not words. How did we get to be eighth last Season? Simple we performed better than the teams below us. Did you see that coming at the start of the Season, I doubt many others did, no matter how optimistic. Will we do better this Season? Who knows, but looking at what we have got I doubt it, but I will still hope, I will still support whatever. If there is a sudden improvement in the quality of the Squad I will be over the moon, we have to trust that our Club is doing their best to improve things, it is in their interest too.[/p][/quote]Quite true very negative views from me but when you lose your chairman,your manager,your striker,your left back and your captain I think it is warranted.when I came on this site I had already read these comment sections for a long while.my first posts were up beat and positive.then I dared to offer an opinion that wasn't deemed acceptable by the comment police and duly set upon.so I did a little experiment and only posted the most boring inane positive things I could think of and guess what? Loads of thumbs up and friendly banter.i will continue to give my views no matter what you or the other police say.i have said before that as soon as the club make a positive move I will post positive.at the moment I believe we are being told bs by the club. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: -2

10:37am Sat 19 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
spratt wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
jls217 wrote:
milton road wrote:
So much paper talk Lovren is meant to be going so Saints must surely be interested in Caulker let us make a news story. I would in truth like to think Saints were a little more adventurous than that.
Its awkward for Koeman he needs to see how friendlies go and how things settle to identify weaknesses, what Poch saw as a weakness Koeman may not. We need a left back but do we need two? He still has around 50 mil to spend am sure it will be spent as he identifies who he wants and the wage structure will have to change Lallana and Shaw have shown us that.
He as two Nat Clyne is almost as good down the left as he is down the right.
Clyne is brilliant cover for left back and always does a good job there. But he is right footed and will always cut inside so he is only cover for LB in emergency.
Just out of interest, and not being awkward, where does the 50M to spend come from? If I recall Les Reed told us months ago that around 100M would be available for new players. Since then Alan and Luke have been sold adding a further approx. 50M which again we were promised would be used to buy new players. . So why are we losing not particularly earth shattering players by offering stupid low figures like 3M? What sort of player is that likely to be? Is it all down to the determination to avoid high wage bills. At the moment "silence is golden" on the transfer front but big Ron seems relaxed enough so perhaps something is happening which we fans are unaware of? Please someone at St Marys say something.
when did les reed or anyone state how much money we had to spend? apart from saying all money from player sales would be reinvested there has never been an amount given.
the club are never going to say that we have X amount to spend, why would they? it just tells other clubs how much they can take us for.
there was I figure of £50mill going around the media before Ronnie signed, but that was never made public by the club, nor have they said its true or false.
(adam) lielanna was sold for £25mill, but allmouth get 25% of that, and luke for £30mill, giving a total of around £48mill, or very nearly the £50mill that was quoted by the media. there was a figure of £100mill going around but that was the £50mill and player sales added. not £100mill and player sales, do you think we could have spent £100mill without selling any players? so far we have spent the money from lielana on 2 players and I have no doubt we will spend more. probably will be spent between this and the jan window, though that is just y opinion.
I have no knowledge of SFC`s accounts so I don't know for sure, I am just clearing up your confusion over the total amount that has been suggested we have.


I wish those who are moaning that we haven't brought anymore players would just calm down. I mean is only been 6 days since we last brought a player and the squad and manager have been away for that time.
oh and the window doesn't shut when the first game kicks off echo1948, it continues until the end of august! players can gel quite quickly, especially if you buy the right ones and don't just panic buy because some fans have itchy feet. arsenil brought ozil on the last day of the window and he gelled straight away.

outside sms today I looked at the number 2 ticket office, on a picture of fans underneath were written just two words, belief and faith, I think some fans have forgotten those two simple words.
You are a real boring poster.i always get half way through and scroll down.its like reading a pr statement from the club.do you have your own opinion? Or are you a yes man? The club could sell the whole squad and you would happily clap Nd cheer them on.just like you did when Lowe was in charge.oh and stop self medicating.
Actually Samuel shiteforbrains, I find his posts generally well thought through and not full of the chavish, dim, over-emotional, inaccurate trite blx that yours usually are. I'm sure if Rambo decides he needs reinforcements he will know the sort of player he wants and how much he and Les decide to spend. I like the fact they keep it realistic and conservative because that means our club is properly run and unlikely to be in the position we found ourselves in a few short years ago. That can never happen again. If you want something different buy the club and spend your own cash on the the sort of risks you require.
Not going to happen is it? So either agree to be content with how Les spends whatever amount Katharina allots him or pish off and support moneybags schitty and their spending habits.
Quite simple really, even you should be able to grasp it.
I will never just blindly agree with individuals who currently run the club.individuals come and go.when you were blindly following Rupert Lowe some of us spoke out.clubs should always be questioned and held accountable to supporters. Hieligen is a yes man and it thinks it owns these comment sections.unless we agree with your views we are called skates,wums and worse,what arrogance.not everyone is happy that we sold are 3 best players as soon as the transfer window opened.ever thought about why these 3 were allowed to leave so soon after the transfer window opened.we did Liverpool and Man U a big favour there,they will be nice and settled when the season starts.what about us? Oh yeah we are still trying to find a left back and bed in 2 foreign journeymen.i hear spurs and saints are in talks for Morgan to move.more good work from les? You going to back him if he sells Morgan?and lovren? Yeah you will because the clubs never wrong is it?
I think you have a somewhat different / narrow minded / somewhat depressing / negative approach to things, compared to what the majority hold, we have as much right to do it our way as you have yours. You have it horribly wrong if you think any of us have been happy with what has gone on, but being realistic we also know that we cannot actually do anything about it, other than stating our views. We don't blindly follow, we support what we see, because that is all we have. We have as much chance of changing things by being in the UK as you have overseas, none at all. You say we are still looking for a left back, and are still likely to lose other players, I have no idea but if it happens, so be it, we all move on, in time departing players will be replaced and we support our new heroes. We all want better, we are handicapped by the system prevalent in the Premier, it isn't fair in my opinion, but it can be fought against by actions not words.
How did we get to be eighth last Season? Simple we performed better than the teams below us. Did you see that coming at the start of the Season, I doubt many others did, no matter how optimistic. Will we do better this Season? Who knows, but looking at what we have got I doubt it, but I will still hope, I will still support whatever. If there is a sudden improvement in the quality of the Squad I will be over the moon, we have to trust that our Club is doing their best to improve things, it is in their interest too.
Quite true very negative views from me but when you lose your chairman,your manager,your striker,your left back and your captain I think it is warranted.when I came on this site I had already read these comment sections for a long while.my first posts were up beat and positive.then I dared to offer an opinion that wasn't deemed acceptable by the comment police and duly set upon.so I did a little experiment and only posted the most boring inane positive things I could think of and guess what? Loads of thumbs up and friendly banter.i will continue to give my views no matter what you or the other police say.i have said before that as soon as the club make a positive move I will post positive.at the moment I believe we are being told bs by the club.
I think you are in for a prolonged wait until you get any satisfaction.
I see people asking why we haven't signed certain players, I see mostly names of players with overblown egos and unrealistic wage demands, they may have talent, but that isn't what we want right now.
You say you did a little experiment by posting total rubbish, you got what you deserved back, more rubbish, what did you expect?
You dared to offer an opinion, fair enough, people disagreed with it equally fair enough, tell the truth now you posted as you are attention seeking and any response you get feeds your need, right?
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: So much paper talk Lovren is meant to be going so Saints must surely be interested in Caulker let us make a news story. I would in truth like to think Saints were a little more adventurous than that. Its awkward for Koeman he needs to see how friendlies go and how things settle to identify weaknesses, what Poch saw as a weakness Koeman may not. We need a left back but do we need two? He still has around 50 mil to spend am sure it will be spent as he identifies who he wants and the wage structure will have to change Lallana and Shaw have shown us that.[/p][/quote]He as two Nat Clyne is almost as good down the left as he is down the right.[/p][/quote]Clyne is brilliant cover for left back and always does a good job there. But he is right footed and will always cut inside so he is only cover for LB in emergency.[/p][/quote]Just out of interest, and not being awkward, where does the 50M to spend come from? If I recall Les Reed told us months ago that around 100M would be available for new players. Since then Alan and Luke have been sold adding a further approx. 50M which again we were promised would be used to buy new players. . So why are we losing not particularly earth shattering players by offering stupid low figures like 3M? What sort of player is that likely to be? Is it all down to the determination to avoid high wage bills. At the moment "silence is golden" on the transfer front but big Ron seems relaxed enough so perhaps something is happening which we fans are unaware of? Please someone at St Marys say something.[/p][/quote]when did les reed or anyone state how much money we had to spend? apart from saying all money from player sales would be reinvested there has never been an amount given. the club are never going to say that we have X amount to spend, why would they? it just tells other clubs how much they can take us for. there was I figure of £50mill going around the media before Ronnie signed, but that was never made public by the club, nor have they said its true or false. (adam) lielanna was sold for £25mill, but allmouth get 25% of that, and luke for £30mill, giving a total of around £48mill, or very nearly the £50mill that was quoted by the media. there was a figure of £100mill going around but that was the £50mill and player sales added. not £100mill and player sales, do you think we could have spent £100mill without selling any players? so far we have spent the money from lielana on 2 players and I have no doubt we will spend more. probably will be spent between this and the jan window, though that is just y opinion. I have no knowledge of SFC`s accounts so I don't know for sure, I am just clearing up your confusion over the total amount that has been suggested we have. I wish those who are moaning that we haven't brought anymore players would just calm down. I mean is only been 6 days since we last brought a player and the squad and manager have been away for that time. oh and the window doesn't shut when the first game kicks off echo1948, it continues until the end of august! players can gel quite quickly, especially if you buy the right ones and don't just panic buy because some fans have itchy feet. arsenil brought ozil on the last day of the window and he gelled straight away. outside sms today I looked at the number 2 ticket office, on a picture of fans underneath were written just two words, belief and faith, I think some fans have forgotten those two simple words.[/p][/quote]You are a real boring poster.i always get half way through and scroll down.its like reading a pr statement from the club.do you have your own opinion? Or are you a yes man? The club could sell the whole squad and you would happily clap Nd cheer them on.just like you did when Lowe was in charge.oh and stop self medicating.[/p][/quote]Actually Samuel shiteforbrains, I find his posts generally well thought through and not full of the chavish, dim, over-emotional, inaccurate trite blx that yours usually are. I'm sure if Rambo decides he needs reinforcements he will know the sort of player he wants and how much he and Les decide to spend. I like the fact they keep it realistic and conservative because that means our club is properly run and unlikely to be in the position we found ourselves in a few short years ago. That can never happen again. If you want something different buy the club and spend your own cash on the the sort of risks you require. Not going to happen is it? So either agree to be content with how Les spends whatever amount Katharina allots him or pish off and support moneybags schitty and their spending habits. Quite simple really, even you should be able to grasp it.[/p][/quote]I will never just blindly agree with individuals who currently run the club.individuals come and go.when you were blindly following Rupert Lowe some of us spoke out.clubs should always be questioned and held accountable to supporters. Hieligen is a yes man and it thinks it owns these comment sections.unless we agree with your views we are called skates,wums and worse,what arrogance.not everyone is happy that we sold are 3 best players as soon as the transfer window opened.ever thought about why these 3 were allowed to leave so soon after the transfer window opened.we did Liverpool and Man U a big favour there,they will be nice and settled when the season starts.what about us? Oh yeah we are still trying to find a left back and bed in 2 foreign journeymen.i hear spurs and saints are in talks for Morgan to move.more good work from les? You going to back him if he sells Morgan?and lovren? Yeah you will because the clubs never wrong is it?[/p][/quote]I think you have a somewhat different / narrow minded / somewhat depressing / negative approach to things, compared to what the majority hold, we have as much right to do it our way as you have yours. You have it horribly wrong if you think any of us have been happy with what has gone on, but being realistic we also know that we cannot actually do anything about it, other than stating our views. We don't blindly follow, we support what we see, because that is all we have. We have as much chance of changing things by being in the UK as you have overseas, none at all. You say we are still looking for a left back, and are still likely to lose other players, I have no idea but if it happens, so be it, we all move on, in time departing players will be replaced and we support our new heroes. We all want better, we are handicapped by the system prevalent in the Premier, it isn't fair in my opinion, but it can be fought against by actions not words. How did we get to be eighth last Season? Simple we performed better than the teams below us. Did you see that coming at the start of the Season, I doubt many others did, no matter how optimistic. Will we do better this Season? Who knows, but looking at what we have got I doubt it, but I will still hope, I will still support whatever. If there is a sudden improvement in the quality of the Squad I will be over the moon, we have to trust that our Club is doing their best to improve things, it is in their interest too.[/p][/quote]Quite true very negative views from me but when you lose your chairman,your manager,your striker,your left back and your captain I think it is warranted.when I came on this site I had already read these comment sections for a long while.my first posts were up beat and positive.then I dared to offer an opinion that wasn't deemed acceptable by the comment police and duly set upon.so I did a little experiment and only posted the most boring inane positive things I could think of and guess what? Loads of thumbs up and friendly banter.i will continue to give my views no matter what you or the other police say.i have said before that as soon as the club make a positive move I will post positive.at the moment I believe we are being told bs by the club.[/p][/quote]I think you are in for a prolonged wait until you get any satisfaction. I see people asking why we haven't signed certain players, I see mostly names of players with overblown egos and unrealistic wage demands, they may have talent, but that isn't what we want right now. You say you did a little experiment by posting total rubbish, you got what you deserved back, more rubbish, what did you expect? You dared to offer an opinion, fair enough, people disagreed with it equally fair enough, tell the truth now you posted as you are attention seeking and any response you get feeds your need, right? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

10:43am Sat 19 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Saints FC U21s XI to face Sunderland away today: Cropper, Deasy, Cook, Mason, Debayo, Little, Regis, Hesketh, Demkiv, Rowe, Seager.

Admit it, how many posters on here, know much about any of these players?
Saints FC U21s XI to face Sunderland away today: Cropper, Deasy, Cook, Mason, Debayo, Little, Regis, Hesketh, Demkiv, Rowe, Seager. Admit it, how many posters on here, know much about any of these players? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 4

11:05am Sat 19 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Saints FC U21s XI to face Sunderland away today: Cropper, Deasy, Cook, Mason, Debayo, Little, Regis, Hesketh, Demkiv, Rowe, Seager.

Admit it, how many posters on here, know much about any of these players?
If you check out the names on the OS you will find 6 or 7 are Academy or new entrants, and three or four are mentioned in the development squad, a lot of the actual development squad have stepped up to the main squad, such is the progress of our young players.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Saints FC U21s XI to face Sunderland away today: Cropper, Deasy, Cook, Mason, Debayo, Little, Regis, Hesketh, Demkiv, Rowe, Seager. Admit it, how many posters on here, know much about any of these players?[/p][/quote]If you check out the names on the OS you will find 6 or 7 are Academy or new entrants, and three or four are mentioned in the development squad, a lot of the actual development squad have stepped up to the main squad, such is the progress of our young players. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

11:22am Sat 19 Jul 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
As it appears to be a neggie fest, I will butt out tonight and concentrate on the Cricket, where no doubt Hampshire will fail miserably yet again.
Good news Hampshire beat Sussex by 6 runs thanks to Briggs 4 for.
Just got back. It was a great game and saw Hampshirrrrre qualify. Went with Slugger and he's still very optimistic about the Saints so let's hope he's proved right.
I envy you being there, it was good to listen to it on line, after their recent wobble it was a relief that they were able to get back on track and qualify for the next round. What a pity Saints don't have the same enthusiasm for Cup Competitions, there is a lot of fun to be had from a successful Cup run!
Blimey, that's a first! How did my post get linked to Chipmonk like that! It was supposed to be linked to Ospers and Seed, so here it is again.
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I followed the scoring on the Beeb but not the commentary. It sounded exciting, and what a knock by Carbs!

I thought you said you were going, Ospers. Thank heavens for loyal Hampshire fans like Sluggs and Seed, eh? :-)

Anyone going to the Rose Bowl test match? I'll be over next w/e and was thinking of popping along one evening. Is it free after tea?
I expect I'll go. On train enroute to Lords right now with Seed the Small.
Seed, I'll Facebook you when I know what day and time we might be at the Rose Bowl.

Today looks like a great day for cricket, so it should be fun up there with the wicket doing a lot more than at Trent Bridge, so wickets could tumble.

You might even get to see Capt. Cook play and miss a few times later in the day.

Enjoy!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: As it appears to be a neggie fest, I will butt out tonight and concentrate on the Cricket, where no doubt Hampshire will fail miserably yet again.[/p][/quote]Good news Hampshire beat Sussex by 6 runs thanks to Briggs 4 for.[/p][/quote]Just got back. It was a great game and saw Hampshirrrrre qualify. Went with Slugger and he's still very optimistic about the Saints so let's hope he's proved right.[/p][/quote]I envy you being there, it was good to listen to it on line, after their recent wobble it was a relief that they were able to get back on track and qualify for the next round. What a pity Saints don't have the same enthusiasm for Cup Competitions, there is a lot of fun to be had from a successful Cup run![/p][/quote]Blimey, that's a first! How did my post get linked to Chipmonk like that! It was supposed to be linked to Ospers and Seed, so here it is again. .................... .................... .................... .................... ............. I followed the scoring on the Beeb but not the commentary. It sounded exciting, and what a knock by Carbs! I thought you said you were going, Ospers. Thank heavens for loyal Hampshire fans like Sluggs and Seed, eh? :-) Anyone going to the Rose Bowl test match? I'll be over next w/e and was thinking of popping along one evening. Is it free after tea?[/p][/quote]I expect I'll go. On train enroute to Lords right now with Seed the Small.[/p][/quote]Seed, I'll Facebook you when I know what day and time we might be at the Rose Bowl. Today looks like a great day for cricket, so it should be fun up there with the wicket doing a lot more than at Trent Bridge, so wickets could tumble. You might even get to see Capt. Cook play and miss a few times later in the day. Enjoy! Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 1

11:28am Sat 19 Jul 14

hythehandel says...

I'm not sure anyone can really be reading these comments this far down the page, especially when we seem to have moved on to discussing cricket.
But I just wanted to make a small point about the transfers. We are all upset when the youngsters come through the academy and then move on. Perhaps though this is part of why we get so many good kids in the first place. If they're not local when they sit down with their parents or advisors to decide where to go they are told - Saints have brilliant facilities, you'll stand more chance of getting first team action quicker and then the chance to move to a'bigger club'. These kids do not have any particular loyalty to Saints. This will work if we spend the money we generate on good replacements whether British or foriegn. Can anyone really envisage a current Saints team still containing the likes of Bale, Walcott, Shaw, Llanna, Chamberlain? With our ground capacity we are not a 'big' club (regardless of the potential) and cannot pay unrealistic wages. Look at where Bale is now, would anyone really expect him to give that up to still be playing for Saints? This can work for us, we'll have to wait and see if the current board is prepared to actually spend the money.
I'm not sure anyone can really be reading these comments this far down the page, especially when we seem to have moved on to discussing cricket. But I just wanted to make a small point about the transfers. We are all upset when the youngsters come through the academy and then move on. Perhaps though this is part of why we get so many good kids in the first place. If they're not local when they sit down with their parents or advisors to decide where to go they are told - Saints have brilliant facilities, you'll stand more chance of getting first team action quicker and then the chance to move to a'bigger club'. These kids do not have any particular loyalty to Saints. This will work if we spend the money we generate on good replacements whether British or foriegn. Can anyone really envisage a current Saints team still containing the likes of Bale, Walcott, Shaw, Llanna, Chamberlain? With our ground capacity we are not a 'big' club (regardless of the potential) and cannot pay unrealistic wages. Look at where Bale is now, would anyone really expect him to give that up to still be playing for Saints? This can work for us, we'll have to wait and see if the current board is prepared to actually spend the money. hythehandel
  • Score: 7

11:28am Sat 19 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Osprey, your waiting your time with my little stalker I'm afraid.
If you respond you give it what it wants and thats, as you pointed out, attention. You can try reasoned arguments and ask it to explain its comments, or even ask the most simple of questions, but as it cant answer them it responds with abuse and tries the old 'forum police' response. You are not allowed to respond to his abuse because that makes you sad and on benefits! See abuse again, no answers just abuse and people like that are only on here for 1 reason.
I have decided to ignore my little stalker from now on and will no longer lower myself into responding to its insults and abuse, except to say that if I did want to travel to a mythical land for a holiday I would contact Peter pan, for now though I am happy to holiday in the UK as its the best actual country in the world!
Osprey, your waiting your time with my little stalker I'm afraid. If you respond you give it what it wants and thats, as you pointed out, attention. You can try reasoned arguments and ask it to explain its comments, or even ask the most simple of questions, but as it cant answer them it responds with abuse and tries the old 'forum police' response. You are not allowed to respond to his abuse because that makes you sad and on benefits! See abuse again, no answers just abuse and people like that are only on here for 1 reason. I have decided to ignore my little stalker from now on and will no longer lower myself into responding to its insults and abuse, except to say that if I did want to travel to a mythical land for a holiday I would contact Peter pan, for now though I am happy to holiday in the UK as its the best actual country in the world! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: -3

11:48am Sat 19 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

It's 3 - 3 at Sunderland goals from Seager, two from Rowe, and Cody Cropper saved a penalty.
Follow it at:-
https://twitter.com/
hashtag/saintsfcu21s
?f=realtime&src=hash


I will be back later.!
It's 3 - 3 at Sunderland goals from Seager, two from Rowe, and Cody Cropper saved a penalty. Follow it at:- https://twitter.com/ hashtag/saintsfcu21s ?f=realtime&src=hash I will be back later.! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 3

11:54am Sat 19 Jul 14

Alicesdad says...

I dont like Rednap, even before i met him i didnt like him, you love him compared to how much i dislike him.
I dont like Rednap, even before i met him i didnt like him, you love him compared to how much i dislike him. Alicesdad
  • Score: 4

12:19pm Sat 19 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Saints 4 - 3 up 3 in a Rowe.
Saints 4 - 3 up 3 in a Rowe. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 5

12:39pm Sat 19 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Finished 4 - 3 Southampton, I don't know anything about the quality of the opposition but this sounds like a creditable result today. Rowe hat trick has to be worth a look at on the highlights.
Finished 4 - 3 Southampton, I don't know anything about the quality of the opposition but this sounds like a creditable result today. Rowe hat trick has to be worth a look at on the highlights. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 4

1:09pm Sat 19 Jul 14

Kernowsaints says...

thought i would add my 2 pence worth after a few bottles of rattler in the sunshine , I am very concerned about the lack of signing's while others are still being touted as leaving , BUT i do have faith that we will come good in the end my real concern is if we lose morgan . RK is a very canny manager and i think he is taking on more of the choices in transfers which can only be good ,wouldnt surprise me if saints dont have a couple lined up for next week that the gutter press havent linked with us , it seems to be the southampton way all of a sudden were gonna get a few signing and we will be like wtf where did they cvome from

I LIVE IN HOPE
thought i would add my 2 pence worth after a few bottles of rattler in the sunshine , I am very concerned about the lack of signing's while others are still being touted as leaving , BUT i do have faith that we will come good in the end my real concern is if we lose morgan . RK is a very canny manager and i think he is taking on more of the choices in transfers which can only be good ,wouldnt surprise me if saints dont have a couple lined up for next week that the gutter press havent linked with us , it seems to be the southampton way all of a sudden were gonna get a few signing and we will be like wtf where did they cvome from I LIVE IN HOPE Kernowsaints
  • Score: -1

1:09pm Sat 19 Jul 14

echo1948 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Finished 4 - 3 Southampton, I don't know anything about the quality of the opposition but this sounds like a creditable result today. Rowe hat trick has to be worth a look at on the highlights.
This result may be good for morale but can the players fielded today cut it in the PL? I seriously doubt it.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Finished 4 - 3 Southampton, I don't know anything about the quality of the opposition but this sounds like a creditable result today. Rowe hat trick has to be worth a look at on the highlights.[/p][/quote]This result may be good for morale but can the players fielded today cut it in the PL? I seriously doubt it. echo1948
  • Score: -1

1:53pm Sat 19 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

echo1948 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Finished 4 - 3 Southampton, I don't know anything about the quality of the opposition but this sounds like a creditable result today. Rowe hat trick has to be worth a look at on the highlights.
This result may be good for morale but can the players fielded today cut it in the PL? I seriously doubt it.
That's a daft statement to make, typical negative response that I would expect from you these days. There are few players that can actually make the grade in the Premier, we seek the rare gem and have a good record at finding them. With the education and help from our Academy several will find their way and forge carers in other leagues in the future. These players are selected on ability by people who know what they are talking about, with us they will get a better chance than with most Clubs.
[quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Finished 4 - 3 Southampton, I don't know anything about the quality of the opposition but this sounds like a creditable result today. Rowe hat trick has to be worth a look at on the highlights.[/p][/quote]This result may be good for morale but can the players fielded today cut it in the PL? I seriously doubt it.[/p][/quote]That's a daft statement to make, typical negative response that I would expect from you these days. There are few players that can actually make the grade in the Premier, we seek the rare gem and have a good record at finding them. With the education and help from our Academy several will find their way and forge carers in other leagues in the future. These players are selected on ability by people who know what they are talking about, with us they will get a better chance than with most Clubs. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

1:55pm Sat 19 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Finished 4 - 3 Southampton, I don't know anything about the quality of the opposition but this sounds like a creditable result today. Rowe hat trick has to be worth a look at on the highlights.
This result may be good for morale but can the players fielded today cut it in the PL? I seriously doubt it.
That's a daft statement to make, typical negative response that I would expect from you these days. There are few players that can actually make the grade in the Premier, we seek the rare gem and have a good record at finding them. With the education and help from our Academy several will find their way and forge carers in other leagues in the future. These players are selected on ability by people who know what they are talking about, with us they will get a better chance than with most Clubs.
carers = careers of course
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Finished 4 - 3 Southampton, I don't know anything about the quality of the opposition but this sounds like a creditable result today. Rowe hat trick has to be worth a look at on the highlights.[/p][/quote]This result may be good for morale but can the players fielded today cut it in the PL? I seriously doubt it.[/p][/quote]That's a daft statement to make, typical negative response that I would expect from you these days. There are few players that can actually make the grade in the Premier, we seek the rare gem and have a good record at finding them. With the education and help from our Academy several will find their way and forge carers in other leagues in the future. These players are selected on ability by people who know what they are talking about, with us they will get a better chance than with most Clubs.[/p][/quote]carers = careers of course OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

2:07pm Sat 19 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Lots of messages about the new shirts, if you are getting one make sure it fits because the quoted sizes are different to some other manufacturers quoted dimensions, best to try it for size to save moaning afterwards. They appear to be designed to be a tight fit anyway.
Lots of messages about the new shirts, if you are getting one make sure it fits because the quoted sizes are different to some other manufacturers quoted dimensions, best to try it for size to save moaning afterwards. They appear to be designed to be a tight fit anyway. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

2:48pm Sat 19 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Finished 4 - 3 Southampton, I don't know anything about the quality of the opposition but this sounds like a creditable result today. Rowe hat trick has to be worth a look at on the highlights.
This result may be good for morale but can the players fielded today cut it in the PL? I seriously doubt it.
That's a daft statement to make, typical negative response that I would expect from you these days. There are few players that can actually make the grade in the Premier, we seek the rare gem and have a good record at finding them. With the education and help from our Academy several will find their way and forge carers in other leagues in the future. These players are selected on ability by people who know what they are talking about, with us they will get a better chance than with most Clubs.
carers = careers of course
Osvaldo needs a carer.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Finished 4 - 3 Southampton, I don't know anything about the quality of the opposition but this sounds like a creditable result today. Rowe hat trick has to be worth a look at on the highlights.[/p][/quote]This result may be good for morale but can the players fielded today cut it in the PL? I seriously doubt it.[/p][/quote]That's a daft statement to make, typical negative response that I would expect from you these days. There are few players that can actually make the grade in the Premier, we seek the rare gem and have a good record at finding them. With the education and help from our Academy several will find their way and forge carers in other leagues in the future. These players are selected on ability by people who know what they are talking about, with us they will get a better chance than with most Clubs.[/p][/quote]carers = careers of course[/p][/quote]Osvaldo needs a carer. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

2:52pm Sat 19 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Finished 4 - 3 Southampton, I don't know anything about the quality of the opposition but this sounds like a creditable result today. Rowe hat trick has to be worth a look at on the highlights.
This result may be good for morale but can the players fielded today cut it in the PL? I seriously doubt it.
That's a daft statement to make, typical negative response that I would expect from you these days. There are few players that can actually make the grade in the Premier, we seek the rare gem and have a good record at finding them. With the education and help from our Academy several will find their way and forge carers in other leagues in the future. These players are selected on ability by people who know what they are talking about, with us they will get a better chance than with most Clubs.
carers = careers of course
Osvaldo needs a carer.
You could be right, I have heard of good eggs going bad, never heard of a bad egg getting good.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Finished 4 - 3 Southampton, I don't know anything about the quality of the opposition but this sounds like a creditable result today. Rowe hat trick has to be worth a look at on the highlights.[/p][/quote]This result may be good for morale but can the players fielded today cut it in the PL? I seriously doubt it.[/p][/quote]That's a daft statement to make, typical negative response that I would expect from you these days. There are few players that can actually make the grade in the Premier, we seek the rare gem and have a good record at finding them. With the education and help from our Academy several will find their way and forge carers in other leagues in the future. These players are selected on ability by people who know what they are talking about, with us they will get a better chance than with most Clubs.[/p][/quote]carers = careers of course[/p][/quote]Osvaldo needs a carer.[/p][/quote]You could be right, I have heard of good eggs going bad, never heard of a bad egg getting good. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

4:48pm Sat 19 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Southampton are reportedly keen on Liverpool full-back Martin Kelly according to the Daily Mail.
St Mary’s boss Ronald Koeman is having to cope with the loss of a number of the squad that helped Southampton to secure an excellent top half finish in the Premier League but will hope to have funds to help strengthen this summer.
Luke Shaw left for Man United and England duo Rickie Lambert & Adam Lallana are Liverpool bound for 2014/15 and a number of others may follow suit though Koeman has managed to bring in prolific Italian Graziano Pelle and has a number of other targets on his summer wish-list including Arsenal youngster Serge Gnabry and Cardiff City keeper David Marshall.
24 year old England man Kelly burst onto the scene some years ago but injuries have taken their toll and the emergence of John Flanagan has perhaps left the locally born full-back considering his options.
Brendan Rodgers may be open to allowing the defender to leave, especially if he has designs on bringing a fresh left-back, with Sevilla’s Alberto Moreno said to be close to joining the club.
Kelly is primarily used at right-back but can be used on the left-hand side of the defence and may be seen as a possible replacement for Luke Shaw.
Southampton are reportedly keen on Liverpool full-back Martin Kelly according to the Daily Mail. St Mary’s boss Ronald Koeman is having to cope with the loss of a number of the squad that helped Southampton to secure an excellent top half finish in the Premier League but will hope to have funds to help strengthen this summer. Luke Shaw left for Man United and England duo Rickie Lambert & Adam Lallana are Liverpool bound for 2014/15 and a number of others may follow suit though Koeman has managed to bring in prolific Italian Graziano Pelle and has a number of other targets on his summer wish-list including Arsenal youngster Serge Gnabry and Cardiff City keeper David Marshall. 24 year old England man Kelly burst onto the scene some years ago but injuries have taken their toll and the emergence of John Flanagan has perhaps left the locally born full-back considering his options. Brendan Rodgers may be open to allowing the defender to leave, especially if he has designs on bringing a fresh left-back, with Sevilla’s Alberto Moreno said to be close to joining the club. Kelly is primarily used at right-back but can be used on the left-hand side of the defence and may be seen as a possible replacement for Luke Shaw. jls217
  • Score: -11

5:07pm Sat 19 Jul 14

nomorerumours says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
It's 3 - 3 at Sunderland goals from Seager, two from Rowe, and Cody Cropper saved a penalty.
Follow it at:-
https://twitter.com/

hashtag/saintsfcu21s

?f=realtime&src=
hash


I will be back later.!
4 -3 win to Saints and Omar Rowe keeps getting better. Even more quality players to come from our academy. Exciting times.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: It's 3 - 3 at Sunderland goals from Seager, two from Rowe, and Cody Cropper saved a penalty. Follow it at:- https://twitter.com/ hashtag/saintsfcu21s ?f=realtime&src= hash I will be back later.![/p][/quote]4 -3 win to Saints and Omar Rowe keeps getting better. Even more quality players to come from our academy. Exciting times. nomorerumours
  • Score: 8

7:37pm Sat 19 Jul 14

echo1948 says...

nomorerumours wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
It's 3 - 3 at Sunderland goals from Seager, two from Rowe, and Cody Cropper saved a penalty.
Follow it at:-
https://twitter.com/


hashtag/saintsfcu21s


?f=realtime&src=

hash


I will be back later.!
4 -3 win to Saints and Omar Rowe keeps getting better. Even more quality players to come from our academy. Exciting times.
More money to put in Katherina,s bank account when they mature in years to come.
[quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: It's 3 - 3 at Sunderland goals from Seager, two from Rowe, and Cody Cropper saved a penalty. Follow it at:- https://twitter.com/ hashtag/saintsfcu21s ?f=realtime&src= hash I will be back later.![/p][/quote]4 -3 win to Saints and Omar Rowe keeps getting better. Even more quality players to come from our academy. Exciting times.[/p][/quote]More money to put in Katherina,s bank account when they mature in years to come. echo1948
  • Score: 5

7:40pm Sat 19 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

echo1948 wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
It's 3 - 3 at Sunderland goals from Seager, two from Rowe, and Cody Cropper saved a penalty.
Follow it at:-
https://twitter.com/



hashtag/saintsfcu21s



?f=realtime&src=


hash


I will be back later.!
4 -3 win to Saints and Omar Rowe keeps getting better. Even more quality players to come from our academy. Exciting times.
More money to put in Katherina,s bank account when they mature in years to come.
Careful now, that is borderline libel, unless you have cast iron proof of course.
[quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: It's 3 - 3 at Sunderland goals from Seager, two from Rowe, and Cody Cropper saved a penalty. Follow it at:- https://twitter.com/ hashtag/saintsfcu21s ?f=realtime&src= hash I will be back later.![/p][/quote]4 -3 win to Saints and Omar Rowe keeps getting better. Even more quality players to come from our academy. Exciting times.[/p][/quote]More money to put in Katherina,s bank account when they mature in years to come.[/p][/quote]Careful now, that is borderline libel, unless you have cast iron proof of course. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 6

7:52pm Sat 19 Jul 14

echo1948 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
It's 3 - 3 at Sunderland goals from Seager, two from Rowe, and Cody Cropper saved a penalty.
Follow it at:-
https://twitter.com/




hashtag/saintsfcu21s




?f=realtime&src=



hash


I will be back later.!
4 -3 win to Saints and Omar Rowe keeps getting better. Even more quality players to come from our academy. Exciting times.
More money to put in Katherina,s bank account when they mature in years to come.
Careful now, that is borderline libel, unless you have cast iron proof of course.
Isn,t the current situation at our club proof enough?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: It's 3 - 3 at Sunderland goals from Seager, two from Rowe, and Cody Cropper saved a penalty. Follow it at:- https://twitter.com/ hashtag/saintsfcu21s ?f=realtime&src= hash I will be back later.![/p][/quote]4 -3 win to Saints and Omar Rowe keeps getting better. Even more quality players to come from our academy. Exciting times.[/p][/quote]More money to put in Katherina,s bank account when they mature in years to come.[/p][/quote]Careful now, that is borderline libel, unless you have cast iron proof of course.[/p][/quote]Isn,t the current situation at our club proof enough? echo1948
  • Score: 1

8:27pm Sat 19 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

echo1948 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
It's 3 - 3 at Sunderland goals from Seager, two from Rowe, and Cody Cropper saved a penalty.
Follow it at:-
https://twitter.com/





hashtag/saintsfcu21s





?f=realtime&src=




hash


I will be back later.!
4 -3 win to Saints and Omar Rowe keeps getting better. Even more quality players to come from our academy. Exciting times.
More money to put in Katherina,s bank account when they mature in years to come.
Careful now, that is borderline libel, unless you have cast iron proof of course.
Isn,t the current situation at our club proof enough?
Not to me it isn't, what do the rest of you think?
[quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: It's 3 - 3 at Sunderland goals from Seager, two from Rowe, and Cody Cropper saved a penalty. Follow it at:- https://twitter.com/ hashtag/saintsfcu21s ?f=realtime&src= hash I will be back later.![/p][/quote]4 -3 win to Saints and Omar Rowe keeps getting better. Even more quality players to come from our academy. Exciting times.[/p][/quote]More money to put in Katherina,s bank account when they mature in years to come.[/p][/quote]Careful now, that is borderline libel, unless you have cast iron proof of course.[/p][/quote]Isn,t the current situation at our club proof enough?[/p][/quote]Not to me it isn't, what do the rest of you think? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

12:30am Sun 20 Jul 14

Gormzzz says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
It's 3 - 3 at Sunderland goals from Seager, two from Rowe, and Cody Cropper saved a penalty.
Follow it at:-
https://twitter.com/






hashtag/saintsfcu21s






?f=realtime&src=





hash


I will be back later.!
4 -3 win to Saints and Omar Rowe keeps getting better. Even more quality players to come from our academy. Exciting times.
More money to put in Katherina,s bank account when they mature in years to come.
Careful now, that is borderline libel, unless you have cast iron proof of course.
Isn,t the current situation at our club proof enough?
Not to me it isn't, what do the rest of you think?
This guy is Les Reed in disguise. Always defends the club and every signing, doesn't let any fan have a negative opinion, if they do, him and his 2 mates bombard the comments. If you have a negative comment that you'd like to discuss, he calls you a skate and tells you to go and support Liverpool. Definitely Les Reed, has to be.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: It's 3 - 3 at Sunderland goals from Seager, two from Rowe, and Cody Cropper saved a penalty. Follow it at:- https://twitter.com/ hashtag/saintsfcu21s ?f=realtime&src= hash I will be back later.![/p][/quote]4 -3 win to Saints and Omar Rowe keeps getting better. Even more quality players to come from our academy. Exciting times.[/p][/quote]More money to put in Katherina,s bank account when they mature in years to come.[/p][/quote]Careful now, that is borderline libel, unless you have cast iron proof of course.[/p][/quote]Isn,t the current situation at our club proof enough?[/p][/quote]Not to me it isn't, what do the rest of you think?[/p][/quote]This guy is Les Reed in disguise. Always defends the club and every signing, doesn't let any fan have a negative opinion, if they do, him and his 2 mates bombard the comments. If you have a negative comment that you'd like to discuss, he calls you a skate and tells you to go and support Liverpool. Definitely Les Reed, has to be. Gormzzz
  • Score: -1

12:54am Sun 20 Jul 14

montecristosaint says...

Osprey and one or two others are simply naive. Miss Liebherr has sold us short, much as I warned she would months ago. I dont believe any of our better players will remain at the club by the start of the season, they will all have gone. Liebherr will have asset stripped, as quite frankly I dont believe for one second that she has the slightest intention of reinvesting in the squad. it isnt for me to tell fans what to do, but its not a happy situation. My fear is that she will go n doing this selling players, and if we get relegated, she ll make excuses and sack the manager.
I really have nothing against her but the club needs someone who is interested in football, who wants to progress the club, instead of seeing it as some kind of cash cow. If there was a viable supporters club their main agenda ought to be to persuade Liebherr to put the club up for sale we deserve better than this. We it s who pay out good money to see games, and most of us will not remember the penny pinching days at the dell. We have moved on and expectations have risen, but not been met so far.
Before anyone lays into me with negative strikes think carefully, I dont want to see the club in trouble, but this summer has been a disaster for the club.I ve supported Saints for fifty years or more, never have we had a team as good as last seasons with the potential to get even better, and Liebherr then sells them? Simply outrageous , disrespectful to the fans, and as for Les Reed and R Krueger , they will go down in Saints history alongside Lowe as two of the least popular figures in Saints history. The breath taking cheek shown when recording interviews which were nothing more than a pack of lies aimed at placating angry and worried fans has left me absolutely seething.
Osprey and one or two others are simply naive. Miss Liebherr has sold us short, much as I warned she would months ago. I dont believe any of our better players will remain at the club by the start of the season, they will all have gone. Liebherr will have asset stripped, as quite frankly I dont believe for one second that she has the slightest intention of reinvesting in the squad. it isnt for me to tell fans what to do, but its not a happy situation. My fear is that she will go n doing this selling players, and if we get relegated, she ll make excuses and sack the manager. I really have nothing against her but the club needs someone who is interested in football, who wants to progress the club, instead of seeing it as some kind of cash cow. If there was a viable supporters club their main agenda ought to be to persuade Liebherr to put the club up for sale we deserve better than this. We it s who pay out good money to see games, and most of us will not remember the penny pinching days at the dell. We have moved on and expectations have risen, but not been met so far. Before anyone lays into me with negative strikes think carefully, I dont want to see the club in trouble, but this summer has been a disaster for the club.I ve supported Saints for fifty years or more, never have we had a team as good as last seasons with the potential to get even better, and Liebherr then sells them? Simply outrageous , disrespectful to the fans, and as for Les Reed and R Krueger , they will go down in Saints history alongside Lowe as two of the least popular figures in Saints history. The breath taking cheek shown when recording interviews which were nothing more than a pack of lies aimed at placating angry and worried fans has left me absolutely seething. montecristosaint
  • Score: 0

1:00am Sun 20 Jul 14

Gormzzz says...

montecristosaint wrote:
Osprey and one or two others are simply naive. Miss Liebherr has sold us short, much as I warned she would months ago. I dont believe any of our better players will remain at the club by the start of the season, they will all have gone. Liebherr will have asset stripped, as quite frankly I dont believe for one second that she has the slightest intention of reinvesting in the squad. it isnt for me to tell fans what to do, but its not a happy situation. My fear is that she will go n doing this selling players, and if we get relegated, she ll make excuses and sack the manager.
I really have nothing against her but the club needs someone who is interested in football, who wants to progress the club, instead of seeing it as some kind of cash cow. If there was a viable supporters club their main agenda ought to be to persuade Liebherr to put the club up for sale we deserve better than this. We it s who pay out good money to see games, and most of us will not remember the penny pinching days at the dell. We have moved on and expectations have risen, but not been met so far.
Before anyone lays into me with negative strikes think carefully, I dont want to see the club in trouble, but this summer has been a disaster for the club.I ve supported Saints for fifty years or more, never have we had a team as good as last seasons with the potential to get even better, and Liebherr then sells them? Simply outrageous , disrespectful to the fans, and as for Les Reed and R Krueger , they will go down in Saints history alongside Lowe as two of the least popular figures in Saints history. The breath taking cheek shown when recording interviews which were nothing more than a pack of lies aimed at placating angry and worried fans has left me absolutely seething.
I agree with most of what you say, I don'y reckon she is asset stripping though. She's just not too ambitious in regards too football. She wants the club to run smoothly and within it's limits, like her business, she is a business women. She wants to keep the club because of her dad but she isn't really interested in football so she just wants it to tick over in the background. Should have sold it to somebody when we had Shaw and Lallana though, plenty of people would have been interested in taking that team to the next level. I'm fine with it all though, it is her club she does what she wants and at least we will still try to break into the top 8 in a few years maybe. Not our faults we don't feel as positive as others and at least there are a few people on here who are happy discussing positive and negative opinions as opposed to starting a pointless argument about something completely irrelevant because they disagree.
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: Osprey and one or two others are simply naive. Miss Liebherr has sold us short, much as I warned she would months ago. I dont believe any of our better players will remain at the club by the start of the season, they will all have gone. Liebherr will have asset stripped, as quite frankly I dont believe for one second that she has the slightest intention of reinvesting in the squad. it isnt for me to tell fans what to do, but its not a happy situation. My fear is that she will go n doing this selling players, and if we get relegated, she ll make excuses and sack the manager. I really have nothing against her but the club needs someone who is interested in football, who wants to progress the club, instead of seeing it as some kind of cash cow. If there was a viable supporters club their main agenda ought to be to persuade Liebherr to put the club up for sale we deserve better than this. We it s who pay out good money to see games, and most of us will not remember the penny pinching days at the dell. We have moved on and expectations have risen, but not been met so far. Before anyone lays into me with negative strikes think carefully, I dont want to see the club in trouble, but this summer has been a disaster for the club.I ve supported Saints for fifty years or more, never have we had a team as good as last seasons with the potential to get even better, and Liebherr then sells them? Simply outrageous , disrespectful to the fans, and as for Les Reed and R Krueger , they will go down in Saints history alongside Lowe as two of the least popular figures in Saints history. The breath taking cheek shown when recording interviews which were nothing more than a pack of lies aimed at placating angry and worried fans has left me absolutely seething.[/p][/quote]I agree with most of what you say, I don'y reckon she is asset stripping though. She's just not too ambitious in regards too football. She wants the club to run smoothly and within it's limits, like her business, she is a business women. She wants to keep the club because of her dad but she isn't really interested in football so she just wants it to tick over in the background. Should have sold it to somebody when we had Shaw and Lallana though, plenty of people would have been interested in taking that team to the next level. I'm fine with it all though, it is her club she does what she wants and at least we will still try to break into the top 8 in a few years maybe. Not our faults we don't feel as positive as others and at least there are a few people on here who are happy discussing positive and negative opinions as opposed to starting a pointless argument about something completely irrelevant because they disagree. Gormzzz
  • Score: -3

1:27am Sun 20 Jul 14

montecristosaint says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London.
Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.
Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle.

For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?
We aren,t going to buy anyone else.Wake up. The "so-called" money to spend is in Katherina,s bank account and is likely to stay there.
your so right , the board are pis**** on our heads and telling us its raining.
I DON,T BELIEVE A WORD THIS BOARD HAS SAID
ITS TIME TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP.
and actions speak volumes, wake up People and start asking the question
why have you asset stripped us ?
i love the SAINTS which is WHY i cant stay quite COYR
thumb it down all you like, the truth is always the truth COYR
show me PROOF of this `asset stripping` you claim is going on and I might believe you. so far though your claim just doesn't add up!
if a multibillionaire was trying to `asset strip` the club then why hold out for £5mill on the lielanna deal? £5mill to her is nothing,
if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve phase 2 of staplewood?
if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve the near £20mill spend on 2 new players?
if she was `asset stripping` why would she agree to install a new floodlighting system at sms?

as I said the facts just don't fit your claim.
Katarina Liebherr is a business woman. She is not interested in keeping the football club however, and is selling off all of the better players prior to selling the club, simply because they are intangible assets whose value is totally dependent on what another club is prepared to pay for a transfer. The club itself will retain its value so long as we are not relegated in the meantime. The question as to the installation of floodlights in simple enough to answer, it is an investment which will enhance the value of the club s facilities and therefore increase the value of the club itself as a going concern. The fact that no deals of any account are being done in the transfer market suggests that it is likely that Liebherr plans to dispose of the club possibly in the near future, and therefore further investment in new players is simply not in her personal interest. I am hoping I have got this a hundred per cent right, that somewhere along the line an announcement will be made confirming the sale of the club possibly to a Chinese investor.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London. Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.[/p][/quote]Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle. For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?[/p][/quote]We aren,t going to buy anyone else.Wake up. The "so-called" money to spend is in Katherina,s bank account and is likely to stay there.[/p][/quote]your so right , the board are pis**** on our heads and telling us its raining. I DON,T BELIEVE A WORD THIS BOARD HAS SAID ITS TIME TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP. and actions speak volumes, wake up People and start asking the question why have you asset stripped us ? i love the SAINTS which is WHY i cant stay quite COYR[/p][/quote]thumb it down all you like, the truth is always the truth COYR[/p][/quote]show me PROOF of this `asset stripping` you claim is going on and I might believe you. so far though your claim just doesn't add up! if a multibillionaire was trying to `asset strip` the club then why hold out for £5mill on the lielanna deal? £5mill to her is nothing, if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve phase 2 of staplewood? if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve the near £20mill spend on 2 new players? if she was `asset stripping` why would she agree to install a new floodlighting system at sms? as I said the facts just don't fit your claim.[/p][/quote]Katarina Liebherr is a business woman. She is not interested in keeping the football club however, and is selling off all of the better players prior to selling the club, simply because they are intangible assets whose value is totally dependent on what another club is prepared to pay for a transfer. The club itself will retain its value so long as we are not relegated in the meantime. The question as to the installation of floodlights in simple enough to answer, it is an investment which will enhance the value of the club s facilities and therefore increase the value of the club itself as a going concern. The fact that no deals of any account are being done in the transfer market suggests that it is likely that Liebherr plans to dispose of the club possibly in the near future, and therefore further investment in new players is simply not in her personal interest. I am hoping I have got this a hundred per cent right, that somewhere along the line an announcement will be made confirming the sale of the club possibly to a Chinese investor. montecristosaint
  • Score: -6

1:32am Sun 20 Jul 14

Gormzzz says...

montecristosaint wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London.
Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.
Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle.

For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?
We aren,t going to buy anyone else.Wake up. The "so-called" money to spend is in Katherina,s bank account and is likely to stay there.
your so right , the board are pis**** on our heads and telling us its raining.
I DON,T BELIEVE A WORD THIS BOARD HAS SAID
ITS TIME TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP.
and actions speak volumes, wake up People and start asking the question
why have you asset stripped us ?
i love the SAINTS which is WHY i cant stay quite COYR
thumb it down all you like, the truth is always the truth COYR
show me PROOF of this `asset stripping` you claim is going on and I might believe you. so far though your claim just doesn't add up!
if a multibillionaire was trying to `asset strip` the club then why hold out for £5mill on the lielanna deal? £5mill to her is nothing,
if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve phase 2 of staplewood?
if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve the near £20mill spend on 2 new players?
if she was `asset stripping` why would she agree to install a new floodlighting system at sms?

as I said the facts just don't fit your claim.
Katarina Liebherr is a business woman. She is not interested in keeping the football club however, and is selling off all of the better players prior to selling the club, simply because they are intangible assets whose value is totally dependent on what another club is prepared to pay for a transfer. The club itself will retain its value so long as we are not relegated in the meantime. The question as to the installation of floodlights in simple enough to answer, it is an investment which will enhance the value of the club s facilities and therefore increase the value of the club itself as a going concern. The fact that no deals of any account are being done in the transfer market suggests that it is likely that Liebherr plans to dispose of the club possibly in the near future, and therefore further investment in new players is simply not in her personal interest. I am hoping I have got this a hundred per cent right, that somewhere along the line an announcement will be made confirming the sale of the club possibly to a Chinese investor.
Floodlights are mandatory, every premier league club has to do it to reduce the glare on HD streams. You may not be wrong though. I personally think she'll keep the club ticking over for a few years as a mid table prem side.
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London. Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.[/p][/quote]Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle. For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?[/p][/quote]We aren,t going to buy anyone else.Wake up. The "so-called" money to spend is in Katherina,s bank account and is likely to stay there.[/p][/quote]your so right , the board are pis**** on our heads and telling us its raining. I DON,T BELIEVE A WORD THIS BOARD HAS SAID ITS TIME TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP. and actions speak volumes, wake up People and start asking the question why have you asset stripped us ? i love the SAINTS which is WHY i cant stay quite COYR[/p][/quote]thumb it down all you like, the truth is always the truth COYR[/p][/quote]show me PROOF of this `asset stripping` you claim is going on and I might believe you. so far though your claim just doesn't add up! if a multibillionaire was trying to `asset strip` the club then why hold out for £5mill on the lielanna deal? £5mill to her is nothing, if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve phase 2 of staplewood? if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve the near £20mill spend on 2 new players? if she was `asset stripping` why would she agree to install a new floodlighting system at sms? as I said the facts just don't fit your claim.[/p][/quote]Katarina Liebherr is a business woman. She is not interested in keeping the football club however, and is selling off all of the better players prior to selling the club, simply because they are intangible assets whose value is totally dependent on what another club is prepared to pay for a transfer. The club itself will retain its value so long as we are not relegated in the meantime. The question as to the installation of floodlights in simple enough to answer, it is an investment which will enhance the value of the club s facilities and therefore increase the value of the club itself as a going concern. The fact that no deals of any account are being done in the transfer market suggests that it is likely that Liebherr plans to dispose of the club possibly in the near future, and therefore further investment in new players is simply not in her personal interest. I am hoping I have got this a hundred per cent right, that somewhere along the line an announcement will be made confirming the sale of the club possibly to a Chinese investor.[/p][/quote]Floodlights are mandatory, every premier league club has to do it to reduce the glare on HD streams. You may not be wrong though. I personally think she'll keep the club ticking over for a few years as a mid table prem side. Gormzzz
  • Score: -1

9:03am Sun 20 Jul 14

nomorerumours says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
It's 3 - 3 at Sunderland goals from Seager, two from Rowe, and Cody Cropper saved a penalty.
Follow it at:-
https://twitter.com/






hashtag/saintsfcu21s






?f=realtime&src=





hash


I will be back later.!
4 -3 win to Saints and Omar Rowe keeps getting better. Even more quality players to come from our academy. Exciting times.
More money to put in Katherina,s bank account when they mature in years to come.
Careful now, that is borderline libel, unless you have cast iron proof of course.
Isn,t the current situation at our club proof enough?
Not to me it isn't, what do the rest of you think?
As usual OspreySaint is 100% correct. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that club monies are being syphoned off by the owner. In fact all the evidence points to monies being invested - new training facilities and further improving of the academy to name a few. I appreciate that these are difficult times for us Saints fans losing several top players but why take it out on the board when you have no proof of any wrong doing. I believe the transfer monies in will be re-invested in new players. This takes time and RK & Co still have over 6 weeks. Please everyone, just be patient and do not prejudge things at this stage. I will probably need to repeat this post in a more current Echo release.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: It's 3 - 3 at Sunderland goals from Seager, two from Rowe, and Cody Cropper saved a penalty. Follow it at:- https://twitter.com/ hashtag/saintsfcu21s ?f=realtime&src= hash I will be back later.![/p][/quote]4 -3 win to Saints and Omar Rowe keeps getting better. Even more quality players to come from our academy. Exciting times.[/p][/quote]More money to put in Katherina,s bank account when they mature in years to come.[/p][/quote]Careful now, that is borderline libel, unless you have cast iron proof of course.[/p][/quote]Isn,t the current situation at our club proof enough?[/p][/quote]Not to me it isn't, what do the rest of you think?[/p][/quote]As usual OspreySaint is 100% correct. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that club monies are being syphoned off by the owner. In fact all the evidence points to monies being invested - new training facilities and further improving of the academy to name a few. I appreciate that these are difficult times for us Saints fans losing several top players but why take it out on the board when you have no proof of any wrong doing. I believe the transfer monies in will be re-invested in new players. This takes time and RK & Co still have over 6 weeks. Please everyone, just be patient and do not prejudge things at this stage. I will probably need to repeat this post in a more current Echo release. nomorerumours
  • Score: 3

9:17am Sun 20 Jul 14

cotswoldsaint says...

Quick trawl through today's papers: J-Rod holding out on signing new contract to see what interest there is from Spuds and Liverhampton; Lovren imminently on his way to head/body reunion at aforesaid club for £20million; Arsenal talking to Saints re £18million transfer for Morgan; oh, and Ronko looking to sign Ron Vlaar to replace Lovren but admitting it'll be expensive. It surely is a tough time to be a Saints fan but then it was ever thus. Keep calm and carry on!
Quick trawl through today's papers: J-Rod holding out on signing new contract to see what interest there is from Spuds and Liverhampton; Lovren imminently on his way to head/body reunion at aforesaid club for £20million; Arsenal talking to Saints re £18million transfer for Morgan; oh, and Ronko looking to sign Ron Vlaar to replace Lovren but admitting it'll be expensive. It surely is a tough time to be a Saints fan but then it was ever thus. Keep calm and carry on! cotswoldsaint
  • Score: 4

9:41am Sun 20 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Gormzzz wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
It's 3 - 3 at Sunderland goals from Seager, two from Rowe, and Cody Cropper saved a penalty.
Follow it at:-
https://twitter.com/







hashtag/saintsfcu21s







?f=realtime&src=






hash


I will be back later.!
4 -3 win to Saints and Omar Rowe keeps getting better. Even more quality players to come from our academy. Exciting times.
More money to put in Katherina,s bank account when they mature in years to come.
Careful now, that is borderline libel, unless you have cast iron proof of course.
Isn,t the current situation at our club proof enough?
Not to me it isn't, what do the rest of you think?
This guy is Les Reed in disguise. Always defends the club and every signing, doesn't let any fan have a negative opinion, if they do, him and his 2 mates bombard the comments. If you have a negative comment that you'd like to discuss, he calls you a skate and tells you to go and support Liverpool. Definitely Les Reed, has to be.
When you get things wrong you really make a good job of it, I do not call posters skates, others may do, but I don't condone it, I call posters WUMs and Trolls when I think they are deliberately stirring it up without any evidence to back their claims. I am not Les Reed or anyone else for that matter, OSPREYSAINT.
p.s. If you have a negative comment I simply dispute it, doesn't mean I am correct, it is purely my opinion.
[quote][p][bold]Gormzzz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: It's 3 - 3 at Sunderland goals from Seager, two from Rowe, and Cody Cropper saved a penalty. Follow it at:- https://twitter.com/ hashtag/saintsfcu21s ?f=realtime&src= hash I will be back later.![/p][/quote]4 -3 win to Saints and Omar Rowe keeps getting better. Even more quality players to come from our academy. Exciting times.[/p][/quote]More money to put in Katherina,s bank account when they mature in years to come.[/p][/quote]Careful now, that is borderline libel, unless you have cast iron proof of course.[/p][/quote]Isn,t the current situation at our club proof enough?[/p][/quote]Not to me it isn't, what do the rest of you think?[/p][/quote]This guy is Les Reed in disguise. Always defends the club and every signing, doesn't let any fan have a negative opinion, if they do, him and his 2 mates bombard the comments. If you have a negative comment that you'd like to discuss, he calls you a skate and tells you to go and support Liverpool. Definitely Les Reed, has to be.[/p][/quote]When you get things wrong you really make a good job of it, I do not call posters skates, others may do, but I don't condone it, I call posters WUMs and Trolls when I think they are deliberately stirring it up without any evidence to back their claims. I am not Les Reed or anyone else for that matter, OSPREYSAINT. p.s. If you have a negative comment I simply dispute it, doesn't mean I am correct, it is purely my opinion. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 5

9:47am Sun 20 Jul 14

Gormzzz says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Gormzzz wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
It's 3 - 3 at Sunderland goals from Seager, two from Rowe, and Cody Cropper saved a penalty.
Follow it at:-
https://twitter.com/








hashtag/saintsfcu21s








?f=realtime&src=







hash


I will be back later.!
4 -3 win to Saints and Omar Rowe keeps getting better. Even more quality players to come from our academy. Exciting times.
More money to put in Katherina,s bank account when they mature in years to come.
Careful now, that is borderline libel, unless you have cast iron proof of course.
Isn,t the current situation at our club proof enough?
Not to me it isn't, what do the rest of you think?
This guy is Les Reed in disguise. Always defends the club and every signing, doesn't let any fan have a negative opinion, if they do, him and his 2 mates bombard the comments. If you have a negative comment that you'd like to discuss, he calls you a skate and tells you to go and support Liverpool. Definitely Les Reed, has to be.
When you get things wrong you really make a good job of it, I do not call posters skates, others may do, but I don't condone it, I call posters WUMs and Trolls when I think they are deliberately stirring it up without any evidence to back their claims. I am not Les Reed or anyone else for that matter, OSPREYSAINT.
p.s. If you have a negative comment I simply dispute it, doesn't mean I am correct, it is purely my opinion.
Well that's a lie, I seem to remember your best mate slugger and you continuously writing skate on everything I do and you aren't willing to discuss anything you just jump straight on here with insults, you and your merry gang. If you we're willing to discuss i wouldn't give you such a hard time. I might be a pessimist but I'm still a Saints fan who deserves an opinion.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gormzzz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: It's 3 - 3 at Sunderland goals from Seager, two from Rowe, and Cody Cropper saved a penalty. Follow it at:- https://twitter.com/ hashtag/saintsfcu21s ?f=realtime&src= hash I will be back later.![/p][/quote]4 -3 win to Saints and Omar Rowe keeps getting better. Even more quality players to come from our academy. Exciting times.[/p][/quote]More money to put in Katherina,s bank account when they mature in years to come.[/p][/quote]Careful now, that is borderline libel, unless you have cast iron proof of course.[/p][/quote]Isn,t the current situation at our club proof enough?[/p][/quote]Not to me it isn't, what do the rest of you think?[/p][/quote]This guy is Les Reed in disguise. Always defends the club and every signing, doesn't let any fan have a negative opinion, if they do, him and his 2 mates bombard the comments. If you have a negative comment that you'd like to discuss, he calls you a skate and tells you to go and support Liverpool. Definitely Les Reed, has to be.[/p][/quote]When you get things wrong you really make a good job of it, I do not call posters skates, others may do, but I don't condone it, I call posters WUMs and Trolls when I think they are deliberately stirring it up without any evidence to back their claims. I am not Les Reed or anyone else for that matter, OSPREYSAINT. p.s. If you have a negative comment I simply dispute it, doesn't mean I am correct, it is purely my opinion.[/p][/quote]Well that's a lie, I seem to remember your best mate slugger and you continuously writing skate on everything I do and you aren't willing to discuss anything you just jump straight on here with insults, you and your merry gang. If you we're willing to discuss i wouldn't give you such a hard time. I might be a pessimist but I'm still a Saints fan who deserves an opinion. Gormzzz
  • Score: -2

9:49am Sun 20 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Gormzzz wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London.
Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.
Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle.

For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?
We aren,t going to buy anyone else.Wake up. The "so-called" money to spend is in Katherina,s bank account and is likely to stay there.
your so right , the board are pis**** on our heads and telling us its raining.
I DON,T BELIEVE A WORD THIS BOARD HAS SAID
ITS TIME TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP.
and actions speak volumes, wake up People and start asking the question
why have you asset stripped us ?
i love the SAINTS which is WHY i cant stay quite COYR
thumb it down all you like, the truth is always the truth COYR
show me PROOF of this `asset stripping` you claim is going on and I might believe you. so far though your claim just doesn't add up!
if a multibillionaire was trying to `asset strip` the club then why hold out for £5mill on the lielanna deal? £5mill to her is nothing,
if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve phase 2 of staplewood?
if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve the near £20mill spend on 2 new players?
if she was `asset stripping` why would she agree to install a new floodlighting system at sms?

as I said the facts just don't fit your claim.
Katarina Liebherr is a business woman. She is not interested in keeping the football club however, and is selling off all of the better players prior to selling the club, simply because they are intangible assets whose value is totally dependent on what another club is prepared to pay for a transfer. The club itself will retain its value so long as we are not relegated in the meantime. The question as to the installation of floodlights in simple enough to answer, it is an investment which will enhance the value of the club s facilities and therefore increase the value of the club itself as a going concern. The fact that no deals of any account are being done in the transfer market suggests that it is likely that Liebherr plans to dispose of the club possibly in the near future, and therefore further investment in new players is simply not in her personal interest. I am hoping I have got this a hundred per cent right, that somewhere along the line an announcement will be made confirming the sale of the club possibly to a Chinese investor.
Floodlights are mandatory, every premier league club has to do it to reduce the glare on HD streams. You may not be wrong though. I personally think she'll keep the club ticking over for a few years as a mid table prem side.
Undersoil heating is a requirement, floodlighting is essential, it still has to be paid for if we intend to remain in the Premier. If there was an effort to get us relegated back to the Championship, then the money would not have been spent. A mid table side in the Premier is a good standard to seek, because it is only from there that with a bit of good fortune, a couple of astute/lucky signings that it could get a whole lot better. It won't happen overnight so it is no good holding unrealistic ambitions of greatness, as the Premier isn't set up to allow that to happen at the moment.
[quote][p][bold]Gormzzz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London. Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.[/p][/quote]Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle. For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?[/p][/quote]We aren,t going to buy anyone else.Wake up. The "so-called" money to spend is in Katherina,s bank account and is likely to stay there.[/p][/quote]your so right , the board are pis**** on our heads and telling us its raining. I DON,T BELIEVE A WORD THIS BOARD HAS SAID ITS TIME TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP. and actions speak volumes, wake up People and start asking the question why have you asset stripped us ? i love the SAINTS which is WHY i cant stay quite COYR[/p][/quote]thumb it down all you like, the truth is always the truth COYR[/p][/quote]show me PROOF of this `asset stripping` you claim is going on and I might believe you. so far though your claim just doesn't add up! if a multibillionaire was trying to `asset strip` the club then why hold out for £5mill on the lielanna deal? £5mill to her is nothing, if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve phase 2 of staplewood? if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve the near £20mill spend on 2 new players? if she was `asset stripping` why would she agree to install a new floodlighting system at sms? as I said the facts just don't fit your claim.[/p][/quote]Katarina Liebherr is a business woman. She is not interested in keeping the football club however, and is selling off all of the better players prior to selling the club, simply because they are intangible assets whose value is totally dependent on what another club is prepared to pay for a transfer. The club itself will retain its value so long as we are not relegated in the meantime. The question as to the installation of floodlights in simple enough to answer, it is an investment which will enhance the value of the club s facilities and therefore increase the value of the club itself as a going concern. The fact that no deals of any account are being done in the transfer market suggests that it is likely that Liebherr plans to dispose of the club possibly in the near future, and therefore further investment in new players is simply not in her personal interest. I am hoping I have got this a hundred per cent right, that somewhere along the line an announcement will be made confirming the sale of the club possibly to a Chinese investor.[/p][/quote]Floodlights are mandatory, every premier league club has to do it to reduce the glare on HD streams. You may not be wrong though. I personally think she'll keep the club ticking over for a few years as a mid table prem side.[/p][/quote]Undersoil heating is a requirement, floodlighting is essential, it still has to be paid for if we intend to remain in the Premier. If there was an effort to get us relegated back to the Championship, then the money would not have been spent. A mid table side in the Premier is a good standard to seek, because it is only from there that with a bit of good fortune, a couple of astute/lucky signings that it could get a whole lot better. It won't happen overnight so it is no good holding unrealistic ambitions of greatness, as the Premier isn't set up to allow that to happen at the moment. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

9:49am Sun 20 Jul 14

Block 42 says...

andysaints007 wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote: This is who we should be trying to sign but no action from us.wheres all the millions? Offering 3million for Redmond.what a joke.lets go and buy a cheap foreign mercenarie,don't worry les is already onto it.
PRATT
What the frick is a pratt??ive literally never heard of this saying yall!anyways I thought we had 100 mill warchest?
[quote][p][bold]andysaints007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: This is who we should be trying to sign but no action from us.wheres all the millions? Offering 3million for Redmond.what a joke.lets go and buy a cheap foreign mercenarie,don't worry les is already onto it.[/p][/quote]PRATT[/p][/quote]What the frick is a pratt??ive literally never heard of this saying yall!anyways I thought we had 100 mill warchest? Block 42
  • Score: -3

9:53am Sun 20 Jul 14

Gormzzz says...

You told me to go and support Liverpool numerous times because I didn't think Pelle was as good as Lambert, and you know thats true.
You told me to go and support Liverpool numerous times because I didn't think Pelle was as good as Lambert, and you know thats true. Gormzzz
  • Score: 1

10:03am Sun 20 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Gormzzz wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Gormzzz wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
It's 3 - 3 at Sunderland goals from Seager, two from Rowe, and Cody Cropper saved a penalty.
Follow it at:-
https://twitter.com/









hashtag/saintsfcu21s









?f=realtime&src=








hash


I will be back later.!
4 -3 win to Saints and Omar Rowe keeps getting better. Even more quality players to come from our academy. Exciting times.
More money to put in Katherina,s bank account when they mature in years to come.
Careful now, that is borderline libel, unless you have cast iron proof of course.
Isn,t the current situation at our club proof enough?
Not to me it isn't, what do the rest of you think?
This guy is Les Reed in disguise. Always defends the club and every signing, doesn't let any fan have a negative opinion, if they do, him and his 2 mates bombard the comments. If you have a negative comment that you'd like to discuss, he calls you a skate and tells you to go and support Liverpool. Definitely Les Reed, has to be.
When you get things wrong you really make a good job of it, I do not call posters skates, others may do, but I don't condone it, I call posters WUMs and Trolls when I think they are deliberately stirring it up without any evidence to back their claims. I am not Les Reed or anyone else for that matter, OSPREYSAINT.
p.s. If you have a negative comment I simply dispute it, doesn't mean I am correct, it is purely my opinion.
Well that's a lie, I seem to remember your best mate slugger and you continuously writing skate on everything I do and you aren't willing to discuss anything you just jump straight on here with insults, you and your merry gang. If you we're willing to discuss i wouldn't give you such a hard time. I might be a pessimist but I'm still a Saints fan who deserves an opinion.
Then you remember wrongly. I use the term sometimes as a tease, but I don't accuse Trolls and WUMs of being skates because they are below the skates in the pecking order. We do get skate posters on here and it is pretty obvious who they are, they don't make any attempt to disguise that fact, that is where you are getting confused. You might be a pessimist? I don't think that is in any doubt, what is in doubt is your support for the Saints, you have a strange way of showing it, in my opinion.
[quote][p][bold]Gormzzz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gormzzz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: It's 3 - 3 at Sunderland goals from Seager, two from Rowe, and Cody Cropper saved a penalty. Follow it at:- https://twitter.com/ hashtag/saintsfcu21s ?f=realtime&src= hash I will be back later.![/p][/quote]4 -3 win to Saints and Omar Rowe keeps getting better. Even more quality players to come from our academy. Exciting times.[/p][/quote]More money to put in Katherina,s bank account when they mature in years to come.[/p][/quote]Careful now, that is borderline libel, unless you have cast iron proof of course.[/p][/quote]Isn,t the current situation at our club proof enough?[/p][/quote]Not to me it isn't, what do the rest of you think?[/p][/quote]This guy is Les Reed in disguise. Always defends the club and every signing, doesn't let any fan have a negative opinion, if they do, him and his 2 mates bombard the comments. If you have a negative comment that you'd like to discuss, he calls you a skate and tells you to go and support Liverpool. Definitely Les Reed, has to be.[/p][/quote]When you get things wrong you really make a good job of it, I do not call posters skates, others may do, but I don't condone it, I call posters WUMs and Trolls when I think they are deliberately stirring it up without any evidence to back their claims. I am not Les Reed or anyone else for that matter, OSPREYSAINT. p.s. If you have a negative comment I simply dispute it, doesn't mean I am correct, it is purely my opinion.[/p][/quote]Well that's a lie, I seem to remember your best mate slugger and you continuously writing skate on everything I do and you aren't willing to discuss anything you just jump straight on here with insults, you and your merry gang. If you we're willing to discuss i wouldn't give you such a hard time. I might be a pessimist but I'm still a Saints fan who deserves an opinion.[/p][/quote]Then you remember wrongly. I use the term sometimes as a tease, but I don't accuse Trolls and WUMs of being skates because they are below the skates in the pecking order. We do get skate posters on here and it is pretty obvious who they are, they don't make any attempt to disguise that fact, that is where you are getting confused. You might be a pessimist? I don't think that is in any doubt, what is in doubt is your support for the Saints, you have a strange way of showing it, in my opinion. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

10:12am Sun 20 Jul 14

Gormzzz says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Gormzzz wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Gormzzz wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
It's 3 - 3 at Sunderland goals from Seager, two from Rowe, and Cody Cropper saved a penalty.
Follow it at:-
https://twitter.com/










hashtag/saintsfcu21s










?f=realtime&src=









hash


I will be back later.!
4 -3 win to Saints and Omar Rowe keeps getting better. Even more quality players to come from our academy. Exciting times.
More money to put in Katherina,s bank account when they mature in years to come.
Careful now, that is borderline libel, unless you have cast iron proof of course.
Isn,t the current situation at our club proof enough?
Not to me it isn't, what do the rest of you think?
This guy is Les Reed in disguise. Always defends the club and every signing, doesn't let any fan have a negative opinion, if they do, him and his 2 mates bombard the comments. If you have a negative comment that you'd like to discuss, he calls you a skate and tells you to go and support Liverpool. Definitely Les Reed, has to be.
When you get things wrong you really make a good job of it, I do not call posters skates, others may do, but I don't condone it, I call posters WUMs and Trolls when I think they are deliberately stirring it up without any evidence to back their claims. I am not Les Reed or anyone else for that matter, OSPREYSAINT.
p.s. If you have a negative comment I simply dispute it, doesn't mean I am correct, it is purely my opinion.
Well that's a lie, I seem to remember your best mate slugger and you continuously writing skate on everything I do and you aren't willing to discuss anything you just jump straight on here with insults, you and your merry gang. If you we're willing to discuss i wouldn't give you such a hard time. I might be a pessimist but I'm still a Saints fan who deserves an opinion.
Then you remember wrongly. I use the term sometimes as a tease, but I don't accuse Trolls and WUMs of being skates because they are below the skates in the pecking order. We do get skate posters on here and it is pretty obvious who they are, they don't make any attempt to disguise that fact, that is where you are getting confused. You might be a pessimist? I don't think that is in any doubt, what is in doubt is your support for the Saints, you have a strange way of showing it, in my opinion.
Fair play, thats all I ask. I'll always value your opinion, I just don't want to be called a skate lol, surely thats fair enough.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gormzzz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gormzzz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: It's 3 - 3 at Sunderland goals from Seager, two from Rowe, and Cody Cropper saved a penalty. Follow it at:- https://twitter.com/ hashtag/saintsfcu21s ?f=realtime&src= hash I will be back later.![/p][/quote]4 -3 win to Saints and Omar Rowe keeps getting better. Even more quality players to come from our academy. Exciting times.[/p][/quote]More money to put in Katherina,s bank account when they mature in years to come.[/p][/quote]Careful now, that is borderline libel, unless you have cast iron proof of course.[/p][/quote]Isn,t the current situation at our club proof enough?[/p][/quote]Not to me it isn't, what do the rest of you think?[/p][/quote]This guy is Les Reed in disguise. Always defends the club and every signing, doesn't let any fan have a negative opinion, if they do, him and his 2 mates bombard the comments. If you have a negative comment that you'd like to discuss, he calls you a skate and tells you to go and support Liverpool. Definitely Les Reed, has to be.[/p][/quote]When you get things wrong you really make a good job of it, I do not call posters skates, others may do, but I don't condone it, I call posters WUMs and Trolls when I think they are deliberately stirring it up without any evidence to back their claims. I am not Les Reed or anyone else for that matter, OSPREYSAINT. p.s. If you have a negative comment I simply dispute it, doesn't mean I am correct, it is purely my opinion.[/p][/quote]Well that's a lie, I seem to remember your best mate slugger and you continuously writing skate on everything I do and you aren't willing to discuss anything you just jump straight on here with insults, you and your merry gang. If you we're willing to discuss i wouldn't give you such a hard time. I might be a pessimist but I'm still a Saints fan who deserves an opinion.[/p][/quote]Then you remember wrongly. I use the term sometimes as a tease, but I don't accuse Trolls and WUMs of being skates because they are below the skates in the pecking order. We do get skate posters on here and it is pretty obvious who they are, they don't make any attempt to disguise that fact, that is where you are getting confused. You might be a pessimist? I don't think that is in any doubt, what is in doubt is your support for the Saints, you have a strange way of showing it, in my opinion.[/p][/quote]Fair play, thats all I ask. I'll always value your opinion, I just don't want to be called a skate lol, surely thats fair enough. Gormzzz
  • Score: 4

11:24am Sun 20 Jul 14

montecristosaint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Gormzzz wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London.
Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.
Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle.

For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?
We aren,t going to buy anyone else.Wake up. The "so-called" money to spend is in Katherina,s bank account and is likely to stay there.
your so right , the board are pis**** on our heads and telling us its raining.
I DON,T BELIEVE A WORD THIS BOARD HAS SAID
ITS TIME TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP.
and actions speak volumes, wake up People and start asking the question
why have you asset stripped us ?
i love the SAINTS which is WHY i cant stay quite COYR
thumb it down all you like, the truth is always the truth COYR
show me PROOF of this `asset stripping` you claim is going on and I might believe you. so far though your claim just doesn't add up!
if a multibillionaire was trying to `asset strip` the club then why hold out for £5mill on the lielanna deal? £5mill to her is nothing,
if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve phase 2 of staplewood?
if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve the near £20mill spend on 2 new players?
if she was `asset stripping` why would she agree to install a new floodlighting system at sms?

as I said the facts just don't fit your claim.
Katarina Liebherr is a business woman. She is not interested in keeping the football club however, and is selling off all of the better players prior to selling the club, simply because they are intangible assets whose value is totally dependent on what another club is prepared to pay for a transfer. The club itself will retain its value so long as we are not relegated in the meantime. The question as to the installation of floodlights in simple enough to answer, it is an investment which will enhance the value of the club s facilities and therefore increase the value of the club itself as a going concern. The fact that no deals of any account are being done in the transfer market suggests that it is likely that Liebherr plans to dispose of the club possibly in the near future, and therefore further investment in new players is simply not in her personal interest. I am hoping I have got this a hundred per cent right, that somewhere along the line an announcement will be made confirming the sale of the club possibly to a Chinese investor.
Floodlights are mandatory, every premier league club has to do it to reduce the glare on HD streams. You may not be wrong though. I personally think she'll keep the club ticking over for a few years as a mid table prem side.
Undersoil heating is a requirement, floodlighting is essential, it still has to be paid for if we intend to remain in the Premier. If there was an effort to get us relegated back to the Championship, then the money would not have been spent. A mid table side in the Premier is a good standard to seek, because it is only from there that with a bit of good fortune, a couple of astute/lucky signings that it could get a whole lot better. It won't happen overnight so it is no good holding unrealistic ambitions of greatness, as the Premier isn't set up to allow that to happen at the moment.
There were rumblings about negotiations to sell the club earlier this year then all went quiet. Recent developments have me intrigued, the lack of transfer activity, the low profile of Ralph Krueger, the presence of a commercial solicitor on the Board, suggests a strategy of disposal.
I dont believe Liebherr wants to retain the club, not even in her father s memory ,they are different people. Quite apart from anything else owning a football club requires considerable personal input, and she has her own life back on the continent. I fully expect a sale before very long. It is even revealing that Lovren Schneiderlin and Rodriguez are not pushing for a transfer as hard as they might, they may know that something is in the wind. Koeman joining the club has been the biggest surprise, why would he join a club in obvious meltdown unless there was something else going on. Fingers crossed.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gormzzz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London. Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.[/p][/quote]Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle. For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?[/p][/quote]We aren,t going to buy anyone else.Wake up. The "so-called" money to spend is in Katherina,s bank account and is likely to stay there.[/p][/quote]your so right , the board are pis**** on our heads and telling us its raining. I DON,T BELIEVE A WORD THIS BOARD HAS SAID ITS TIME TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP. and actions speak volumes, wake up People and start asking the question why have you asset stripped us ? i love the SAINTS which is WHY i cant stay quite COYR[/p][/quote]thumb it down all you like, the truth is always the truth COYR[/p][/quote]show me PROOF of this `asset stripping` you claim is going on and I might believe you. so far though your claim just doesn't add up! if a multibillionaire was trying to `asset strip` the club then why hold out for £5mill on the lielanna deal? £5mill to her is nothing, if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve phase 2 of staplewood? if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve the near £20mill spend on 2 new players? if she was `asset stripping` why would she agree to install a new floodlighting system at sms? as I said the facts just don't fit your claim.[/p][/quote]Katarina Liebherr is a business woman. She is not interested in keeping the football club however, and is selling off all of the better players prior to selling the club, simply because they are intangible assets whose value is totally dependent on what another club is prepared to pay for a transfer. The club itself will retain its value so long as we are not relegated in the meantime. The question as to the installation of floodlights in simple enough to answer, it is an investment which will enhance the value of the club s facilities and therefore increase the value of the club itself as a going concern. The fact that no deals of any account are being done in the transfer market suggests that it is likely that Liebherr plans to dispose of the club possibly in the near future, and therefore further investment in new players is simply not in her personal interest. I am hoping I have got this a hundred per cent right, that somewhere along the line an announcement will be made confirming the sale of the club possibly to a Chinese investor.[/p][/quote]Floodlights are mandatory, every premier league club has to do it to reduce the glare on HD streams. You may not be wrong though. I personally think she'll keep the club ticking over for a few years as a mid table prem side.[/p][/quote]Undersoil heating is a requirement, floodlighting is essential, it still has to be paid for if we intend to remain in the Premier. If there was an effort to get us relegated back to the Championship, then the money would not have been spent. A mid table side in the Premier is a good standard to seek, because it is only from there that with a bit of good fortune, a couple of astute/lucky signings that it could get a whole lot better. It won't happen overnight so it is no good holding unrealistic ambitions of greatness, as the Premier isn't set up to allow that to happen at the moment.[/p][/quote]There were rumblings about negotiations to sell the club earlier this year then all went quiet. Recent developments have me intrigued, the lack of transfer activity, the low profile of Ralph Krueger, the presence of a commercial solicitor on the Board, suggests a strategy of disposal. I dont believe Liebherr wants to retain the club, not even in her father s memory ,they are different people. Quite apart from anything else owning a football club requires considerable personal input, and she has her own life back on the continent. I fully expect a sale before very long. It is even revealing that Lovren Schneiderlin and Rodriguez are not pushing for a transfer as hard as they might, they may know that something is in the wind. Koeman joining the club has been the biggest surprise, why would he join a club in obvious meltdown unless there was something else going on. Fingers crossed. montecristosaint
  • Score: 5

12:19pm Sun 20 Jul 14

echo1948 says...

montecristosaint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Gormzzz wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London.
Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.
Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle.

For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?
We aren,t going to buy anyone else.Wake up. The "so-called" money to spend is in Katherina,s bank account and is likely to stay there.
your so right , the board are pis**** on our heads and telling us its raining.
I DON,T BELIEVE A WORD THIS BOARD HAS SAID
ITS TIME TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP.
and actions speak volumes, wake up People and start asking the question
why have you asset stripped us ?
i love the SAINTS which is WHY i cant stay quite COYR
thumb it down all you like, the truth is always the truth COYR
show me PROOF of this `asset stripping` you claim is going on and I might believe you. so far though your claim just doesn't add up!
if a multibillionaire was trying to `asset strip` the club then why hold out for £5mill on the lielanna deal? £5mill to her is nothing,
if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve phase 2 of staplewood?
if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve the near £20mill spend on 2 new players?
if she was `asset stripping` why would she agree to install a new floodlighting system at sms?

as I said the facts just don't fit your claim.
Katarina Liebherr is a business woman. She is not interested in keeping the football club however, and is selling off all of the better players prior to selling the club, simply because they are intangible assets whose value is totally dependent on what another club is prepared to pay for a transfer. The club itself will retain its value so long as we are not relegated in the meantime. The question as to the installation of floodlights in simple enough to answer, it is an investment which will enhance the value of the club s facilities and therefore increase the value of the club itself as a going concern. The fact that no deals of any account are being done in the transfer market suggests that it is likely that Liebherr plans to dispose of the club possibly in the near future, and therefore further investment in new players is simply not in her personal interest. I am hoping I have got this a hundred per cent right, that somewhere along the line an announcement will be made confirming the sale of the club possibly to a Chinese investor.
Floodlights are mandatory, every premier league club has to do it to reduce the glare on HD streams. You may not be wrong though. I personally think she'll keep the club ticking over for a few years as a mid table prem side.
Undersoil heating is a requirement, floodlighting is essential, it still has to be paid for if we intend to remain in the Premier. If there was an effort to get us relegated back to the Championship, then the money would not have been spent. A mid table side in the Premier is a good standard to seek, because it is only from there that with a bit of good fortune, a couple of astute/lucky signings that it could get a whole lot better. It won't happen overnight so it is no good holding unrealistic ambitions of greatness, as the Premier isn't set up to allow that to happen at the moment.
There were rumblings about negotiations to sell the club earlier this year then all went quiet. Recent developments have me intrigued, the lack of transfer activity, the low profile of Ralph Krueger, the presence of a commercial solicitor on the Board, suggests a strategy of disposal.
I dont believe Liebherr wants to retain the club, not even in her father s memory ,they are different people. Quite apart from anything else owning a football club requires considerable personal input, and she has her own life back on the continent. I fully expect a sale before very long. It is even revealing that Lovren Schneiderlin and Rodriguez are not pushing for a transfer as hard as they might, they may know that something is in the wind. Koeman joining the club has been the biggest surprise, why would he join a club in obvious meltdown unless there was something else going on. Fingers crossed.
At last. Someone who is reading between the lines as I have been doing since our players started to leave. All this crap about a 100k war chest etc. is pure bull. The club is being wound down with the premice of being sold.It doesn,t matter to KL if we are in the PL or Championship or lower. She is asset stripping players for a tidy profit before it all goes up for sale to the highest bidder.
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gormzzz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London. Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.[/p][/quote]Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle. For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?[/p][/quote]We aren,t going to buy anyone else.Wake up. The "so-called" money to spend is in Katherina,s bank account and is likely to stay there.[/p][/quote]your so right , the board are pis**** on our heads and telling us its raining. I DON,T BELIEVE A WORD THIS BOARD HAS SAID ITS TIME TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP. and actions speak volumes, wake up People and start asking the question why have you asset stripped us ? i love the SAINTS which is WHY i cant stay quite COYR[/p][/quote]thumb it down all you like, the truth is always the truth COYR[/p][/quote]show me PROOF of this `asset stripping` you claim is going on and I might believe you. so far though your claim just doesn't add up! if a multibillionaire was trying to `asset strip` the club then why hold out for £5mill on the lielanna deal? £5mill to her is nothing, if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve phase 2 of staplewood? if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve the near £20mill spend on 2 new players? if she was `asset stripping` why would she agree to install a new floodlighting system at sms? as I said the facts just don't fit your claim.[/p][/quote]Katarina Liebherr is a business woman. She is not interested in keeping the football club however, and is selling off all of the better players prior to selling the club, simply because they are intangible assets whose value is totally dependent on what another club is prepared to pay for a transfer. The club itself will retain its value so long as we are not relegated in the meantime. The question as to the installation of floodlights in simple enough to answer, it is an investment which will enhance the value of the club s facilities and therefore increase the value of the club itself as a going concern. The fact that no deals of any account are being done in the transfer market suggests that it is likely that Liebherr plans to dispose of the club possibly in the near future, and therefore further investment in new players is simply not in her personal interest. I am hoping I have got this a hundred per cent right, that somewhere along the line an announcement will be made confirming the sale of the club possibly to a Chinese investor.[/p][/quote]Floodlights are mandatory, every premier league club has to do it to reduce the glare on HD streams. You may not be wrong though. I personally think she'll keep the club ticking over for a few years as a mid table prem side.[/p][/quote]Undersoil heating is a requirement, floodlighting is essential, it still has to be paid for if we intend to remain in the Premier. If there was an effort to get us relegated back to the Championship, then the money would not have been spent. A mid table side in the Premier is a good standard to seek, because it is only from there that with a bit of good fortune, a couple of astute/lucky signings that it could get a whole lot better. It won't happen overnight so it is no good holding unrealistic ambitions of greatness, as the Premier isn't set up to allow that to happen at the moment.[/p][/quote]There were rumblings about negotiations to sell the club earlier this year then all went quiet. Recent developments have me intrigued, the lack of transfer activity, the low profile of Ralph Krueger, the presence of a commercial solicitor on the Board, suggests a strategy of disposal. I dont believe Liebherr wants to retain the club, not even in her father s memory ,they are different people. Quite apart from anything else owning a football club requires considerable personal input, and she has her own life back on the continent. I fully expect a sale before very long. It is even revealing that Lovren Schneiderlin and Rodriguez are not pushing for a transfer as hard as they might, they may know that something is in the wind. Koeman joining the club has been the biggest surprise, why would he join a club in obvious meltdown unless there was something else going on. Fingers crossed.[/p][/quote]At last. Someone who is reading between the lines as I have been doing since our players started to leave. All this crap about a 100k war chest etc. is pure bull. The club is being wound down with the premice of being sold.It doesn,t matter to KL if we are in the PL or Championship or lower. She is asset stripping players for a tidy profit before it all goes up for sale to the highest bidder. echo1948
  • Score: 4

1:19pm Sun 20 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

montecristosaint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Gormzzz wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London.
Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.
Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle.

For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?
We aren,t going to buy anyone else.Wake up. The "so-called" money to spend is in Katherina,s bank account and is likely to stay there.
your so right , the board are pis**** on our heads and telling us its raining.
I DON,T BELIEVE A WORD THIS BOARD HAS SAID
ITS TIME TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP.
and actions speak volumes, wake up People and start asking the question
why have you asset stripped us ?
i love the SAINTS which is WHY i cant stay quite COYR
thumb it down all you like, the truth is always the truth COYR
show me PROOF of this `asset stripping` you claim is going on and I might believe you. so far though your claim just doesn't add up!
if a multibillionaire was trying to `asset strip` the club then why hold out for £5mill on the lielanna deal? £5mill to her is nothing,
if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve phase 2 of staplewood?
if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve the near £20mill spend on 2 new players?
if she was `asset stripping` why would she agree to install a new floodlighting system at sms?

as I said the facts just don't fit your claim.
Katarina Liebherr is a business woman. She is not interested in keeping the football club however, and is selling off all of the better players prior to selling the club, simply because they are intangible assets whose value is totally dependent on what another club is prepared to pay for a transfer. The club itself will retain its value so long as we are not relegated in the meantime. The question as to the installation of floodlights in simple enough to answer, it is an investment which will enhance the value of the club s facilities and therefore increase the value of the club itself as a going concern. The fact that no deals of any account are being done in the transfer market suggests that it is likely that Liebherr plans to dispose of the club possibly in the near future, and therefore further investment in new players is simply not in her personal interest. I am hoping I have got this a hundred per cent right, that somewhere along the line an announcement will be made confirming the sale of the club possibly to a Chinese investor.
Floodlights are mandatory, every premier league club has to do it to reduce the glare on HD streams. You may not be wrong though. I personally think she'll keep the club ticking over for a few years as a mid table prem side.
Undersoil heating is a requirement, floodlighting is essential, it still has to be paid for if we intend to remain in the Premier. If there was an effort to get us relegated back to the Championship, then the money would not have been spent. A mid table side in the Premier is a good standard to seek, because it is only from there that with a bit of good fortune, a couple of astute/lucky signings that it could get a whole lot better. It won't happen overnight so it is no good holding unrealistic ambitions of greatness, as the Premier isn't set up to allow that to happen at the moment.
There were rumblings about negotiations to sell the club earlier this year then all went quiet. Recent developments have me intrigued, the lack of transfer activity, the low profile of Ralph Krueger, the presence of a commercial solicitor on the Board, suggests a strategy of disposal.
I dont believe Liebherr wants to retain the club, not even in her father s memory ,they are different people. Quite apart from anything else owning a football club requires considerable personal input, and she has her own life back on the continent. I fully expect a sale before very long. It is even revealing that Lovren Schneiderlin and Rodriguez are not pushing for a transfer as hard as they might, they may know that something is in the wind. Koeman joining the club has been the biggest surprise, why would he join a club in obvious meltdown unless there was something else going on. Fingers crossed.
absolute dogpooh!

selling some players for a big fee will always reduce he value of the club. why would another investor pay top whack for a club that has lost some of its biggest assets?
floodlights, why invest in a brand new system when the old system was perfectly adequate? it wont increase the value of the club, why would it?
staplewood, already one of the finest academies and training ground in the country so why approve phase 2? its only a few extra pitches and car parking spaces so the outlay will not see an increase in the overall value of the club, the value was in the original setup not phase 2.
players sold, we have been told on many occasions that the monies raised would be reinvested in new players, unless the club is sold before the end of the window then we will know that to be a total lie, they are therefore setting themselves up for a fan backlash if its not. I personally don't think all will be reinvested in this window as some will be held back for the jan window, but others will want it all spent now.
we have sold 3 players for around £60mill and brought 2 for just under £20mill so if she as `asset striping` why buy any players? why hold out for £5mill extra from the lielanna deal? £5mill is nothing to her, surely if she was just interested in taking money out of the club then she would have just sold at the first offer and not reinvested a third of what has been brought in.
lovren not pushing hard for a transfer? really? a transfer request and the comments in the media isn't pushing hard? what else does he have to do to `push hard`? spider isn't pushing hard because he doesn't really want to leave, he is waiting to see what the club are going to do, and no that doesn't mean selling, why would the club being sold affect him or his contract? same with J-Rod who has stated he wants to stay and the fact he hasn't signed a new contract yet means nothing, he could be trying to get a better deal or again waiting to see who the club bring in. how would players know that the owner wants to sell?
why would Ronnie join the club? well he might want to manage in the prem and has knowledge of the ambitions and targets of the club, do you think that he was told that KL wants to sell the club before he signed?
yes there was talk that KL wanted to sell the club, however that was quite a few months after she took control and coincidently at the same time that NC resigned. it was press speculation possibly spread by a former employee, even adam backmore of radio solent has said that a former employee is spreading nonsense to the media.
it was the same media speculation that told us that KL has no interest in football, the fact that she has been to every home game and some away games shows she has, at the very least, some interest.
Ralph`s low profile? do we want a media whore of a chairman or do we want a chairman who is sat in the background quietly doing his job?
further to that, if KL was `asset stripping` why would she appoint a whole board? their wages is money she wont get back! why appoint people to new jobs and snatch one from apple uk?
where do you think you are going to find a new multi-billionaire owner who loves the club? if such a person existed why didn't they come forward when we were in trouble?
as I say your `asset stripping` arguments make absolutely no sense and everything points to KL keeping and making the club a better well run club which has to be the best option.
if you want to support a club whos owners just throw money at the club like its going out of fashion there are plenty of options out there for you. personally I like he way KL wants the club to be run, well and within it means. I do not want the club to ever go down the path we have before.
if you want examples of what can happen when new owners come in take look at what happened down the road, new owners promising the earth but sending the club into huge debts that the club couldn't pay.
again if KL was asset stripping wouldn't she take out big loans on the training ground and stadium and pocket the money? of course she isn't asset stripping nothing points to it.
fingers crossed? so you want the club to sell all its best players and the owner to asset strip before selling to a new club loving multi-billionaire who just throws shed loads of cash at the club leaving us open to FFP rule infringements? strange wish!
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gormzzz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London. Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.[/p][/quote]Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle. For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?[/p][/quote]We aren,t going to buy anyone else.Wake up. The "so-called" money to spend is in Katherina,s bank account and is likely to stay there.[/p][/quote]your so right , the board are pis**** on our heads and telling us its raining. I DON,T BELIEVE A WORD THIS BOARD HAS SAID ITS TIME TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP. and actions speak volumes, wake up People and start asking the question why have you asset stripped us ? i love the SAINTS which is WHY i cant stay quite COYR[/p][/quote]thumb it down all you like, the truth is always the truth COYR[/p][/quote]show me PROOF of this `asset stripping` you claim is going on and I might believe you. so far though your claim just doesn't add up! if a multibillionaire was trying to `asset strip` the club then why hold out for £5mill on the lielanna deal? £5mill to her is nothing, if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve phase 2 of staplewood? if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve the near £20mill spend on 2 new players? if she was `asset stripping` why would she agree to install a new floodlighting system at sms? as I said the facts just don't fit your claim.[/p][/quote]Katarina Liebherr is a business woman. She is not interested in keeping the football club however, and is selling off all of the better players prior to selling the club, simply because they are intangible assets whose value is totally dependent on what another club is prepared to pay for a transfer. The club itself will retain its value so long as we are not relegated in the meantime. The question as to the installation of floodlights in simple enough to answer, it is an investment which will enhance the value of the club s facilities and therefore increase the value of the club itself as a going concern. The fact that no deals of any account are being done in the transfer market suggests that it is likely that Liebherr plans to dispose of the club possibly in the near future, and therefore further investment in new players is simply not in her personal interest. I am hoping I have got this a hundred per cent right, that somewhere along the line an announcement will be made confirming the sale of the club possibly to a Chinese investor.[/p][/quote]Floodlights are mandatory, every premier league club has to do it to reduce the glare on HD streams. You may not be wrong though. I personally think she'll keep the club ticking over for a few years as a mid table prem side.[/p][/quote]Undersoil heating is a requirement, floodlighting is essential, it still has to be paid for if we intend to remain in the Premier. If there was an effort to get us relegated back to the Championship, then the money would not have been spent. A mid table side in the Premier is a good standard to seek, because it is only from there that with a bit of good fortune, a couple of astute/lucky signings that it could get a whole lot better. It won't happen overnight so it is no good holding unrealistic ambitions of greatness, as the Premier isn't set up to allow that to happen at the moment.[/p][/quote]There were rumblings about negotiations to sell the club earlier this year then all went quiet. Recent developments have me intrigued, the lack of transfer activity, the low profile of Ralph Krueger, the presence of a commercial solicitor on the Board, suggests a strategy of disposal. I dont believe Liebherr wants to retain the club, not even in her father s memory ,they are different people. Quite apart from anything else owning a football club requires considerable personal input, and she has her own life back on the continent. I fully expect a sale before very long. It is even revealing that Lovren Schneiderlin and Rodriguez are not pushing for a transfer as hard as they might, they may know that something is in the wind. Koeman joining the club has been the biggest surprise, why would he join a club in obvious meltdown unless there was something else going on. Fingers crossed.[/p][/quote]absolute dogpooh! selling some players for a big fee will always reduce he value of the club. why would another investor pay top whack for a club that has lost some of its biggest assets? floodlights, why invest in a brand new system when the old system was perfectly adequate? it wont increase the value of the club, why would it? staplewood, already one of the finest academies and training ground in the country so why approve phase 2? its only a few extra pitches and car parking spaces so the outlay will not see an increase in the overall value of the club, the value was in the original setup not phase 2. players sold, we have been told on many occasions that the monies raised would be reinvested in new players, unless the club is sold before the end of the window then we will know that to be a total lie, they are therefore setting themselves up for a fan backlash if its not. I personally don't think all will be reinvested in this window as some will be held back for the jan window, but others will want it all spent now. we have sold 3 players for around £60mill and brought 2 for just under £20mill so if she as `asset striping` why buy any players? why hold out for £5mill extra from the lielanna deal? £5mill is nothing to her, surely if she was just interested in taking money out of the club then she would have just sold at the first offer and not reinvested a third of what has been brought in. lovren not pushing hard for a transfer? really? a transfer request and the comments in the media isn't pushing hard? what else does he have to do to `push hard`? spider isn't pushing hard because he doesn't really want to leave, he is waiting to see what the club are going to do, and no that doesn't mean selling, why would the club being sold affect him or his contract? same with J-Rod who has stated he wants to stay and the fact he hasn't signed a new contract yet means nothing, he could be trying to get a better deal or again waiting to see who the club bring in. how would players know that the owner wants to sell? why would Ronnie join the club? well he might want to manage in the prem and has knowledge of the ambitions and targets of the club, do you think that he was told that KL wants to sell the club before he signed? yes there was talk that KL wanted to sell the club, however that was quite a few months after she took control and coincidently at the same time that NC resigned. it was press speculation possibly spread by a former employee, even adam backmore of radio solent has said that a former employee is spreading nonsense to the media. it was the same media speculation that told us that KL has no interest in football, the fact that she has been to every home game and some away games shows she has, at the very least, some interest. Ralph`s low profile? do we want a media whore of a chairman or do we want a chairman who is sat in the background quietly doing his job? further to that, if KL was `asset stripping` why would she appoint a whole board? their wages is money she wont get back! why appoint people to new jobs and snatch one from apple uk? where do you think you are going to find a new multi-billionaire owner who loves the club? if such a person existed why didn't they come forward when we were in trouble? as I say your `asset stripping` arguments make absolutely no sense and everything points to KL keeping and making the club a better well run club which has to be the best option. if you want to support a club whos owners just throw money at the club like its going out of fashion there are plenty of options out there for you. personally I like he way KL wants the club to be run, well and within it means. I do not want the club to ever go down the path we have before. if you want examples of what can happen when new owners come in take look at what happened down the road, new owners promising the earth but sending the club into huge debts that the club couldn't pay. again if KL was asset stripping wouldn't she take out big loans on the training ground and stadium and pocket the money? of course she isn't asset stripping nothing points to it. fingers crossed? so you want the club to sell all its best players and the owner to asset strip before selling to a new club loving multi-billionaire who just throws shed loads of cash at the club leaving us open to FFP rule infringements? strange wish! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: -3

2:21pm Sun 20 Jul 14

THE12THMAN says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Gormzzz wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London.
Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.
Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle.

For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?
We aren,t going to buy anyone else.Wake up. The "so-called" money to spend is in Katherina,s bank account and is likely to stay there.
your so right , the board are pis**** on our heads and telling us its raining.
I DON,T BELIEVE A WORD THIS BOARD HAS SAID
ITS TIME TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP.
and actions speak volumes, wake up People and start asking the question
why have you asset stripped us ?
i love the SAINTS which is WHY i cant stay quite COYR
thumb it down all you like, the truth is always the truth COYR
show me PROOF of this `asset stripping` you claim is going on and I might believe you. so far though your claim just doesn't add up!
if a multibillionaire was trying to `asset strip` the club then why hold out for £5mill on the lielanna deal? £5mill to her is nothing,
if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve phase 2 of staplewood?
if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve the near £20mill spend on 2 new players?
if she was `asset stripping` why would she agree to install a new floodlighting system at sms?

as I said the facts just don't fit your claim.
Katarina Liebherr is a business woman. She is not interested in keeping the football club however, and is selling off all of the better players prior to selling the club, simply because they are intangible assets whose value is totally dependent on what another club is prepared to pay for a transfer. The club itself will retain its value so long as we are not relegated in the meantime. The question as to the installation of floodlights in simple enough to answer, it is an investment which will enhance the value of the club s facilities and therefore increase the value of the club itself as a going concern. The fact that no deals of any account are being done in the transfer market suggests that it is likely that Liebherr plans to dispose of the club possibly in the near future, and therefore further investment in new players is simply not in her personal interest. I am hoping I have got this a hundred per cent right, that somewhere along the line an announcement will be made confirming the sale of the club possibly to a Chinese investor.
Floodlights are mandatory, every premier league club has to do it to reduce the glare on HD streams. You may not be wrong though. I personally think she'll keep the club ticking over for a few years as a mid table prem side.
Undersoil heating is a requirement, floodlighting is essential, it still has to be paid for if we intend to remain in the Premier. If there was an effort to get us relegated back to the Championship, then the money would not have been spent. A mid table side in the Premier is a good standard to seek, because it is only from there that with a bit of good fortune, a couple of astute/lucky signings that it could get a whole lot better. It won't happen overnight so it is no good holding unrealistic ambitions of greatness, as the Premier isn't set up to allow that to happen at the moment.
There were rumblings about negotiations to sell the club earlier this year then all went quiet. Recent developments have me intrigued, the lack of transfer activity, the low profile of Ralph Krueger, the presence of a commercial solicitor on the Board, suggests a strategy of disposal.
I dont believe Liebherr wants to retain the club, not even in her father s memory ,they are different people. Quite apart from anything else owning a football club requires considerable personal input, and she has her own life back on the continent. I fully expect a sale before very long. It is even revealing that Lovren Schneiderlin and Rodriguez are not pushing for a transfer as hard as they might, they may know that something is in the wind. Koeman joining the club has been the biggest surprise, why would he join a club in obvious meltdown unless there was something else going on. Fingers crossed.
absolute dogpooh!

selling some players for a big fee will always reduce he value of the club. why would another investor pay top whack for a club that has lost some of its biggest assets?
floodlights, why invest in a brand new system when the old system was perfectly adequate? it wont increase the value of the club, why would it?
staplewood, already one of the finest academies and training ground in the country so why approve phase 2? its only a few extra pitches and car parking spaces so the outlay will not see an increase in the overall value of the club, the value was in the original setup not phase 2.
players sold, we have been told on many occasions that the monies raised would be reinvested in new players, unless the club is sold before the end of the window then we will know that to be a total lie, they are therefore setting themselves up for a fan backlash if its not. I personally don't think all will be reinvested in this window as some will be held back for the jan window, but others will want it all spent now.
we have sold 3 players for around £60mill and brought 2 for just under £20mill so if she as `asset striping` why buy any players? why hold out for £5mill extra from the lielanna deal? £5mill is nothing to her, surely if she was just interested in taking money out of the club then she would have just sold at the first offer and not reinvested a third of what has been brought in.
lovren not pushing hard for a transfer? really? a transfer request and the comments in the media isn't pushing hard? what else does he have to do to `push hard`? spider isn't pushing hard because he doesn't really want to leave, he is waiting to see what the club are going to do, and no that doesn't mean selling, why would the club being sold affect him or his contract? same with J-Rod who has stated he wants to stay and the fact he hasn't signed a new contract yet means nothing, he could be trying to get a better deal or again waiting to see who the club bring in. how would players know that the owner wants to sell?
why would Ronnie join the club? well he might want to manage in the prem and has knowledge of the ambitions and targets of the club, do you think that he was told that KL wants to sell the club before he signed?
yes there was talk that KL wanted to sell the club, however that was quite a few months after she took control and coincidently at the same time that NC resigned. it was press speculation possibly spread by a former employee, even adam backmore of radio solent has said that a former employee is spreading nonsense to the media.
it was the same media speculation that told us that KL has no interest in football, the fact that she has been to every home game and some away games shows she has, at the very least, some interest.
Ralph`s low profile? do we want a media whore of a chairman or do we want a chairman who is sat in the background quietly doing his job?
further to that, if KL was `asset stripping` why would she appoint a whole board? their wages is money she wont get back! why appoint people to new jobs and snatch one from apple uk?
where do you think you are going to find a new multi-billionaire owner who loves the club? if such a person existed why didn't they come forward when we were in trouble?
as I say your `asset stripping` arguments make absolutely no sense and everything points to KL keeping and making the club a better well run club which has to be the best option.
if you want to support a club whos owners just throw money at the club like its going out of fashion there are plenty of options out there for you. personally I like he way KL wants the club to be run, well and within it means. I do not want the club to ever go down the path we have before.
if you want examples of what can happen when new owners come in take look at what happened down the road, new owners promising the earth but sending the club into huge debts that the club couldn't pay.
again if KL was asset stripping wouldn't she take out big loans on the training ground and stadium and pocket the money? of course she isn't asset stripping nothing points to it.
fingers crossed? so you want the club to sell all its best players and the owner to asset strip before selling to a new club loving multi-billionaire who just throws shed loads of cash at the club leaving us open to FFP rule infringements? strange wish!
I must admit your comment makes a lot of sense, i hope you are right.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gormzzz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London. Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.[/p][/quote]Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle. For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?[/p][/quote]We aren,t going to buy anyone else.Wake up. The "so-called" money to spend is in Katherina,s bank account and is likely to stay there.[/p][/quote]your so right , the board are pis**** on our heads and telling us its raining. I DON,T BELIEVE A WORD THIS BOARD HAS SAID ITS TIME TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP. and actions speak volumes, wake up People and start asking the question why have you asset stripped us ? i love the SAINTS which is WHY i cant stay quite COYR[/p][/quote]thumb it down all you like, the truth is always the truth COYR[/p][/quote]show me PROOF of this `asset stripping` you claim is going on and I might believe you. so far though your claim just doesn't add up! if a multibillionaire was trying to `asset strip` the club then why hold out for £5mill on the lielanna deal? £5mill to her is nothing, if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve phase 2 of staplewood? if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve the near £20mill spend on 2 new players? if she was `asset stripping` why would she agree to install a new floodlighting system at sms? as I said the facts just don't fit your claim.[/p][/quote]Katarina Liebherr is a business woman. She is not interested in keeping the football club however, and is selling off all of the better players prior to selling the club, simply because they are intangible assets whose value is totally dependent on what another club is prepared to pay for a transfer. The club itself will retain its value so long as we are not relegated in the meantime. The question as to the installation of floodlights in simple enough to answer, it is an investment which will enhance the value of the club s facilities and therefore increase the value of the club itself as a going concern. The fact that no deals of any account are being done in the transfer market suggests that it is likely that Liebherr plans to dispose of the club possibly in the near future, and therefore further investment in new players is simply not in her personal interest. I am hoping I have got this a hundred per cent right, that somewhere along the line an announcement will be made confirming the sale of the club possibly to a Chinese investor.[/p][/quote]Floodlights are mandatory, every premier league club has to do it to reduce the glare on HD streams. You may not be wrong though. I personally think she'll keep the club ticking over for a few years as a mid table prem side.[/p][/quote]Undersoil heating is a requirement, floodlighting is essential, it still has to be paid for if we intend to remain in the Premier. If there was an effort to get us relegated back to the Championship, then the money would not have been spent. A mid table side in the Premier is a good standard to seek, because it is only from there that with a bit of good fortune, a couple of astute/lucky signings that it could get a whole lot better. It won't happen overnight so it is no good holding unrealistic ambitions of greatness, as the Premier isn't set up to allow that to happen at the moment.[/p][/quote]There were rumblings about negotiations to sell the club earlier this year then all went quiet. Recent developments have me intrigued, the lack of transfer activity, the low profile of Ralph Krueger, the presence of a commercial solicitor on the Board, suggests a strategy of disposal. I dont believe Liebherr wants to retain the club, not even in her father s memory ,they are different people. Quite apart from anything else owning a football club requires considerable personal input, and she has her own life back on the continent. I fully expect a sale before very long. It is even revealing that Lovren Schneiderlin and Rodriguez are not pushing for a transfer as hard as they might, they may know that something is in the wind. Koeman joining the club has been the biggest surprise, why would he join a club in obvious meltdown unless there was something else going on. Fingers crossed.[/p][/quote]absolute dogpooh! selling some players for a big fee will always reduce he value of the club. why would another investor pay top whack for a club that has lost some of its biggest assets? floodlights, why invest in a brand new system when the old system was perfectly adequate? it wont increase the value of the club, why would it? staplewood, already one of the finest academies and training ground in the country so why approve phase 2? its only a few extra pitches and car parking spaces so the outlay will not see an increase in the overall value of the club, the value was in the original setup not phase 2. players sold, we have been told on many occasions that the monies raised would be reinvested in new players, unless the club is sold before the end of the window then we will know that to be a total lie, they are therefore setting themselves up for a fan backlash if its not. I personally don't think all will be reinvested in this window as some will be held back for the jan window, but others will want it all spent now. we have sold 3 players for around £60mill and brought 2 for just under £20mill so if she as `asset striping` why buy any players? why hold out for £5mill extra from the lielanna deal? £5mill is nothing to her, surely if she was just interested in taking money out of the club then she would have just sold at the first offer and not reinvested a third of what has been brought in. lovren not pushing hard for a transfer? really? a transfer request and the comments in the media isn't pushing hard? what else does he have to do to `push hard`? spider isn't pushing hard because he doesn't really want to leave, he is waiting to see what the club are going to do, and no that doesn't mean selling, why would the club being sold affect him or his contract? same with J-Rod who has stated he wants to stay and the fact he hasn't signed a new contract yet means nothing, he could be trying to get a better deal or again waiting to see who the club bring in. how would players know that the owner wants to sell? why would Ronnie join the club? well he might want to manage in the prem and has knowledge of the ambitions and targets of the club, do you think that he was told that KL wants to sell the club before he signed? yes there was talk that KL wanted to sell the club, however that was quite a few months after she took control and coincidently at the same time that NC resigned. it was press speculation possibly spread by a former employee, even adam backmore of radio solent has said that a former employee is spreading nonsense to the media. it was the same media speculation that told us that KL has no interest in football, the fact that she has been to every home game and some away games shows she has, at the very least, some interest. Ralph`s low profile? do we want a media whore of a chairman or do we want a chairman who is sat in the background quietly doing his job? further to that, if KL was `asset stripping` why would she appoint a whole board? their wages is money she wont get back! why appoint people to new jobs and snatch one from apple uk? where do you think you are going to find a new multi-billionaire owner who loves the club? if such a person existed why didn't they come forward when we were in trouble? as I say your `asset stripping` arguments make absolutely no sense and everything points to KL keeping and making the club a better well run club which has to be the best option. if you want to support a club whos owners just throw money at the club like its going out of fashion there are plenty of options out there for you. personally I like he way KL wants the club to be run, well and within it means. I do not want the club to ever go down the path we have before. if you want examples of what can happen when new owners come in take look at what happened down the road, new owners promising the earth but sending the club into huge debts that the club couldn't pay. again if KL was asset stripping wouldn't she take out big loans on the training ground and stadium and pocket the money? of course she isn't asset stripping nothing points to it. fingers crossed? so you want the club to sell all its best players and the owner to asset strip before selling to a new club loving multi-billionaire who just throws shed loads of cash at the club leaving us open to FFP rule infringements? strange wish![/p][/quote]I must admit your comment makes a lot of sense, i hope you are right. THE12THMAN
  • Score: -6

4:36pm Sun 20 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

echo1948 wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Gormzzz wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London.
Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.
Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle.

For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?
We aren,t going to buy anyone else.Wake up. The "so-called" money to spend is in Katherina,s bank account and is likely to stay there.
your so right , the board are pis**** on our heads and telling us its raining.
I DON,T BELIEVE A WORD THIS BOARD HAS SAID
ITS TIME TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP.
and actions speak volumes, wake up People and start asking the question
why have you asset stripped us ?
i love the SAINTS which is WHY i cant stay quite COYR
thumb it down all you like, the truth is always the truth COYR
show me PROOF of this `asset stripping` you claim is going on and I might believe you. so far though your claim just doesn't add up!
if a multibillionaire was trying to `asset strip` the club then why hold out for £5mill on the lielanna deal? £5mill to her is nothing,
if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve phase 2 of staplewood?
if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve the near £20mill spend on 2 new players?
if she was `asset stripping` why would she agree to install a new floodlighting system at sms?

as I said the facts just don't fit your claim.
Katarina Liebherr is a business woman. She is not interested in keeping the football club however, and is selling off all of the better players prior to selling the club, simply because they are intangible assets whose value is totally dependent on what another club is prepared to pay for a transfer. The club itself will retain its value so long as we are not relegated in the meantime. The question as to the installation of floodlights in simple enough to answer, it is an investment which will enhance the value of the club s facilities and therefore increase the value of the club itself as a going concern. The fact that no deals of any account are being done in the transfer market suggests that it is likely that Liebherr plans to dispose of the club possibly in the near future, and therefore further investment in new players is simply not in her personal interest. I am hoping I have got this a hundred per cent right, that somewhere along the line an announcement will be made confirming the sale of the club possibly to a Chinese investor.
Floodlights are mandatory, every premier league club has to do it to reduce the glare on HD streams. You may not be wrong though. I personally think she'll keep the club ticking over for a few years as a mid table prem side.
Undersoil heating is a requirement, floodlighting is essential, it still has to be paid for if we intend to remain in the Premier. If there was an effort to get us relegated back to the Championship, then the money would not have been spent. A mid table side in the Premier is a good standard to seek, because it is only from there that with a bit of good fortune, a couple of astute/lucky signings that it could get a whole lot better. It won't happen overnight so it is no good holding unrealistic ambitions of greatness, as the Premier isn't set up to allow that to happen at the moment.
There were rumblings about negotiations to sell the club earlier this year then all went quiet. Recent developments have me intrigued, the lack of transfer activity, the low profile of Ralph Krueger, the presence of a commercial solicitor on the Board, suggests a strategy of disposal.
I dont believe Liebherr wants to retain the club, not even in her father s memory ,they are different people. Quite apart from anything else owning a football club requires considerable personal input, and she has her own life back on the continent. I fully expect a sale before very long. It is even revealing that Lovren Schneiderlin and Rodriguez are not pushing for a transfer as hard as they might, they may know that something is in the wind. Koeman joining the club has been the biggest surprise, why would he join a club in obvious meltdown unless there was something else going on. Fingers crossed.
At last. Someone who is reading between the lines as I have been doing since our players started to leave. All this crap about a 100k war chest etc. is pure bull. The club is being wound down with the premice of being sold.It doesn,t matter to KL if we are in the PL or Championship or lower. She is asset stripping players for a tidy profit before it all goes up for sale to the highest bidder.
That's not reading between the lines, that's either just paranoia or classic WUMmeistering.
[quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gormzzz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: The more one thinks of this, it has to be money and the lights of London. Otherwise, why choose QPR, probably relegation candidates, against the attraction of St. Mary's.[/p][/quote]Maybe Harry did a better job of persuading than Les did? We are losing out both ends of the scale at the moment and unless it changes radically and soon we're going to be up sh!te creek without a paddle. For those that keep saying financial FairPlay rules blah blah blah, how come they only apply to us!?[/p][/quote]We aren,t going to buy anyone else.Wake up. The "so-called" money to spend is in Katherina,s bank account and is likely to stay there.[/p][/quote]your so right , the board are pis**** on our heads and telling us its raining. I DON,T BELIEVE A WORD THIS BOARD HAS SAID ITS TIME TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP. and actions speak volumes, wake up People and start asking the question why have you asset stripped us ? i love the SAINTS which is WHY i cant stay quite COYR[/p][/quote]thumb it down all you like, the truth is always the truth COYR[/p][/quote]show me PROOF of this `asset stripping` you claim is going on and I might believe you. so far though your claim just doesn't add up! if a multibillionaire was trying to `asset strip` the club then why hold out for £5mill on the lielanna deal? £5mill to her is nothing, if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve phase 2 of staplewood? if she was `asset stripping` why would she approve the near £20mill spend on 2 new players? if she was `asset stripping` why would she agree to install a new floodlighting system at sms? as I said the facts just don't fit your claim.[/p][/quote]Katarina Liebherr is a business woman. She is not interested in keeping the football club however, and is selling off all of the better players prior to selling the club, simply because they are intangible assets whose value is totally dependent on what another club is prepared to pay for a transfer. The club itself will retain its value so long as we are not relegated in the meantime. The question as to the installation of floodlights in simple enough to answer, it is an investment which will enhance the value of the club s facilities and therefore increase the value of the club itself as a going concern. The fact that no deals of any account are being done in the transfer market suggests that it is likely that Liebherr plans to dispose of the club possibly in the near future, and therefore further investment in new players is simply not in her personal interest. I am hoping I have got this a hundred per cent right, that somewhere along the line an announcement will be made confirming the sale of the club possibly to a Chinese investor.[/p][/quote]Floodlights are mandatory, every premier league club has to do it to reduce the glare on HD streams. You may not be wrong though. I personally think she'll keep the club ticking over for a few years as a mid table prem side.[/p][/quote]Undersoil heating is a requirement, floodlighting is essential, it still has to be paid for if we intend to remain in the Premier. If there was an effort to get us relegated back to the Championship, then the money would not have been spent. A mid table side in the Premier is a good standard to seek, because it is only from there that with a bit of good fortune, a couple of astute/lucky signings that it could get a whole lot better. It won't happen overnight so it is no good holding unrealistic ambitions of greatness, as the Premier isn't set up to allow that to happen at the moment.[/p][/quote]There were rumblings about negotiations to sell the club earlier this year then all went quiet. Recent developments have me intrigued, the lack of transfer activity, the low profile of Ralph Krueger, the presence of a commercial solicitor on the Board, suggests a strategy of disposal. I dont believe Liebherr wants to retain the club, not even in her father s memory ,they are different people. Quite apart from anything else owning a football club requires considerable personal input, and she has her own life back on the continent. I fully expect a sale before very long. It is even revealing that Lovren Schneiderlin and Rodriguez are not pushing for a transfer as hard as they might, they may know that something is in the wind. Koeman joining the club has been the biggest surprise, why would he join a club in obvious meltdown unless there was something else going on. Fingers crossed.[/p][/quote]At last. Someone who is reading between the lines as I have been doing since our players started to leave. All this crap about a 100k war chest etc. is pure bull. The club is being wound down with the premice of being sold.It doesn,t matter to KL if we are in the PL or Championship or lower. She is asset stripping players for a tidy profit before it all goes up for sale to the highest bidder.[/p][/quote]That's not reading between the lines, that's either just paranoia or classic WUMmeistering. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

6:43pm Sun 20 Jul 14

THE12THMAN says...

According to sky sports saints have excepted an offer of £15M for Lovren, so much for selling him for top money.
According to sky sports saints have excepted an offer of £15M for Lovren, so much for selling him for top money. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 3

7:17pm Sun 20 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

THE12THMAN wrote:
According to sky sports saints have excepted an offer of £15M for Lovren, so much for selling him for top money.
So much for turning down an opening bid of £20m who is telling the biggest lies here?
[quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: According to sky sports saints have excepted an offer of £15M for Lovren, so much for selling him for top money.[/p][/quote]So much for turning down an opening bid of £20m who is telling the biggest lies here? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

7:28pm Sun 20 Jul 14

THE12THMAN says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
THE12THMAN wrote:
According to sky sports saints have excepted an offer of £15M for Lovren, so much for selling him for top money.
So much for turning down an opening bid of £20m who is telling the biggest lies here?
At the moment it is hard to know who is telling the truth and who is lying, the silence from the club is not helping one bit, if the club did make a statement I'm not sure if we could believe it.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: According to sky sports saints have excepted an offer of £15M for Lovren, so much for selling him for top money.[/p][/quote]So much for turning down an opening bid of £20m who is telling the biggest lies here?[/p][/quote]At the moment it is hard to know who is telling the truth and who is lying, the silence from the club is not helping one bit, if the club did make a statement I'm not sure if we could believe it. THE12THMAN
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