Koeman: Saints will play the right way

Ronald Koeman

Ronald Koeman

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Ronald Koeman plans to implement a 4-3-3 system at Saints, and has promised fans his side will play an attractive brand of football.

The club’s manager has taken his team away to the Netherlands and Belgium for a couple of days to prepare for the coming season.

As well as two low-key friendly matches – the first of which is against Dutch amateur side EHC Hoensbroek tonight – Koeman will also use the time to further explain and teach his ideas to the players, and he gave an insight into what he has planned in terms of a system for the new campaign.

“First of all, it depends on the players. The players make the system, the system doesn’t make the players, but what I see in the squad, what I see in the players, is we can play 4-3-3," he said.

“Maybe we will change it sometimes – it depends on the opponents, it depends on the situations, but the way how we like to play is the 4-3-3 system.”

Saints were known for using a 4-2-3-1 formation under previous manager Mauricio Pochettino, who implemented a high-tempo pressing game that helped win the club many admirers.

Koeman also earned a reputation at his previous club, Feyenoord, for an eye-catching and attacking brand of football.

He won plaudits for his willingness to promote from the academy and nurture young talent, having guided a number of players from the junior ranks and into this year's Dutch World Cup squad.

It is a philosophy that seems perfect for Saints, and Koeman hopes he will be a good fit.

“I am a manager who likes to see my team playing good football. I think that’s important,” he said.

“I like to play attractive. It’s one of the philosophies of Southampton Football Club and I like to bring in young players.

"We have a great academy in Southampton and a lot of young players in the squad at this moment.

"I had a great experience as a football player, I can smell what happens in the team and the dressing room and I look forward to that.

"After a lot of different clubs I have managed, it’s a lot of experience."

Koeman must also make a decision over who will be the team's new captain, after previous skipper Adam Lallana was sold to Liverpool.

He says an indication will likely be given in the coming days.

“You will see it (this) week, because we will start friendly matches,” he said.

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8:16am Tue 15 Jul 14

warrens 76 says...

I believe that if he signs a world class CB who can score from set pieces, an additional world class keeper and covers LB with either confidence in who we have or brings a proven 21-23 year old quality signing we are almost there…

Shame Osvaldo seems such a prima donna and nutter to boot (literally) I think he and Pelle could give teams a lot to think about…

Gaston may well come good this year and if he does along with Taduc taking into account all of the above and not putting to fine a point on it whilst obviously allowing for unforeseen circumstances, I can without fear of contadiction say we could do much better than last year.
I believe that if he signs a world class CB who can score from set pieces, an additional world class keeper and covers LB with either confidence in who we have or brings a proven 21-23 year old quality signing we are almost there… Shame Osvaldo seems such a prima donna and nutter to boot (literally) I think he and Pelle could give teams a lot to think about… Gaston may well come good this year and if he does along with Taduc taking into account all of the above and not putting to fine a point on it whilst obviously allowing for unforeseen circumstances, I can without fear of contadiction say we could do much better than last year. warrens 76
  • Score: 32

8:26am Tue 15 Jul 14

Norwegian Saint says...

It will say a lot if Morgan is made captain, but I think Steven Davis will get the nod.

Two or three weeks ago I was starting to get annoyed with our lack of movement and just seeing people leave, now I am really looking forward to the Liverhampton match... last season I won £60 on a Saints win at Anfield... might go for it again this time.
It will say a lot if Morgan is made captain, but I think Steven Davis will get the nod. Two or three weeks ago I was starting to get annoyed with our lack of movement and just seeing people leave, now I am really looking forward to the Liverhampton match... last season I won £60 on a Saints win at Anfield... might go for it again this time. Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 29

8:26am Tue 15 Jul 14

saintbobby says...

I admit to not being the greatest analyser of playing formations, but this does sound exciting and certainly different.

MoPo definitely changed the way the Saints played and his pressing game got a lot of teams on the wrong foot.

But the lone striker in his formation did seem to contribute to the lack of goals we should have scored, when our dominance in possession in virtually EVERY game is remembered. There was one game where we had 69% possession and lost the match!

So, hopefully, an exciting season ahead. COYR!!
I admit to not being the greatest analyser of playing formations, but this does sound exciting and certainly different. MoPo definitely changed the way the Saints played and his pressing game got a lot of teams on the wrong foot. But the lone striker in his formation did seem to contribute to the lack of goals we should have scored, when our dominance in possession in virtually EVERY game is remembered. There was one game where we had 69% possession and lost the match! So, hopefully, an exciting season ahead. COYR!! saintbobby
  • Score: 25

8:26am Tue 15 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

If we are to see the new captain this week it isn't Morgan. Maybe one of the new guys?
If we are to see the new captain this week it isn't Morgan. Maybe one of the new guys? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 2

8:27am Tue 15 Jul 14

pitbull says...

I can see Fonte being given the armband, possibly Steven Davis.

But getting into the "spirit" and raising a glass to the new season, I would like a Captain Morgan.
I can see Fonte being given the armband, possibly Steven Davis. But getting into the "spirit" and raising a glass to the new season, I would like a Captain Morgan. pitbull
  • Score: 35

8:29am Tue 15 Jul 14

miltonnroad76 says...

warrens 76 wrote:
I believe that if he signs a world class CB who can score from set pieces, an additional world class keeper and covers LB with either confidence in who we have or brings a proven 21-23 year old quality signing we are almost there…

Shame Osvaldo seems such a prima donna and nutter to boot (literally) I think he and Pelle could give teams a lot to think about…

Gaston may well come good this year and if he does along with Taduc taking into account all of the above and not putting to fine a point on it whilst obviously allowing for unforeseen circumstances, I can without fear of contadiction say we could do much better than last year.
never mind Osvaldos temperment hes didnt look up to prem standard anyway..even if he behaved he aint good enough..Ron still needs to buy a striker ..we have a pacey winger in tadic but gallagher isnt ready yet ...midfeild we are ok but another cb is also needed even if lovren stays we only have hoover (god no!) or yoshida for cover...no mention of any signings lately so i worry thats it for new faces..or more positevly Ron is checking players out in freindlys before he makes a move..
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: I believe that if he signs a world class CB who can score from set pieces, an additional world class keeper and covers LB with either confidence in who we have or brings a proven 21-23 year old quality signing we are almost there… Shame Osvaldo seems such a prima donna and nutter to boot (literally) I think he and Pelle could give teams a lot to think about… Gaston may well come good this year and if he does along with Taduc taking into account all of the above and not putting to fine a point on it whilst obviously allowing for unforeseen circumstances, I can without fear of contadiction say we could do much better than last year.[/p][/quote]never mind Osvaldos temperment hes didnt look up to prem standard anyway..even if he behaved he aint good enough..Ron still needs to buy a striker ..we have a pacey winger in tadic but gallagher isnt ready yet ...midfeild we are ok but another cb is also needed even if lovren stays we only have hoover (god no!) or yoshida for cover...no mention of any signings lately so i worry thats it for new faces..or more positevly Ron is checking players out in freindlys before he makes a move.. miltonnroad76
  • Score: 12

8:30am Tue 15 Jul 14

pitbull says...

How about The Echo run a poll on who should be the new Captain.
How about The Echo run a poll on who should be the new Captain. pitbull
  • Score: 33

8:40am Tue 15 Jul 14

alanrr says...

miltonnroad76 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
I believe that if he signs a world class CB who can score from set pieces, an additional world class keeper and covers LB with either confidence in who we have or brings a proven 21-23 year old quality signing we are almost there…

Shame Osvaldo seems such a prima donna and nutter to boot (literally) I think he and Pelle could give teams a lot to think about…

Gaston may well come good this year and if he does along with Taduc taking into account all of the above and not putting to fine a point on it whilst obviously allowing for unforeseen circumstances, I can without fear of contadiction say we could do much better than last year.
never mind Osvaldos temperment hes didnt look up to prem standard anyway..even if he behaved he aint good enough..Ron still needs to buy a striker ..we have a pacey winger in tadic but gallagher isnt ready yet ...midfeild we are ok but another cb is also needed even if lovren stays we only have hoover (god no!) or yoshida for cover...no mention of any signings lately so i worry thats it for new faces..or more positevly Ron is checking players out in freindlys before he makes a move..
I'm not sure that Gallagher isn't ready he needs a run out....big lad, deserves a chance
[quote][p][bold]miltonnroad76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: I believe that if he signs a world class CB who can score from set pieces, an additional world class keeper and covers LB with either confidence in who we have or brings a proven 21-23 year old quality signing we are almost there… Shame Osvaldo seems such a prima donna and nutter to boot (literally) I think he and Pelle could give teams a lot to think about… Gaston may well come good this year and if he does along with Taduc taking into account all of the above and not putting to fine a point on it whilst obviously allowing for unforeseen circumstances, I can without fear of contadiction say we could do much better than last year.[/p][/quote]never mind Osvaldos temperment hes didnt look up to prem standard anyway..even if he behaved he aint good enough..Ron still needs to buy a striker ..we have a pacey winger in tadic but gallagher isnt ready yet ...midfeild we are ok but another cb is also needed even if lovren stays we only have hoover (god no!) or yoshida for cover...no mention of any signings lately so i worry thats it for new faces..or more positevly Ron is checking players out in freindlys before he makes a move..[/p][/quote]I'm not sure that Gallagher isn't ready he needs a run out....big lad, deserves a chance alanrr
  • Score: 16

8:46am Tue 15 Jul 14

Chipmonk1 says...

Excited to see RoKo say he wants to go 433 but for someone who hopes Gaston realises his potential, I'm not sure this will play to his strengths. In Uruguay's last game in the WC he showed what he is capable of, especially with set pieces. MoPo IMHO did not use him to his potential. Hope we finally see Gaston fully fit and at his best. Whatever I have absolute faith in RoKo.
Excited to see RoKo say he wants to go 433 but for someone who hopes Gaston realises his potential, I'm not sure this will play to his strengths. In Uruguay's last game in the WC he showed what he is capable of, especially with set pieces. MoPo IMHO did not use him to his potential. Hope we finally see Gaston fully fit and at his best. Whatever I have absolute faith in RoKo. Chipmonk1
  • Score: 15

8:48am Tue 15 Jul 14

Chipmonk1 says...

Captain has to be Spider if we hold on to him. Has not only been in the first team longer than most of squad but best most consistent player over last 4 seasons. If not S.Davis
Captain has to be Spider if we hold on to him. Has not only been in the first team longer than most of squad but best most consistent player over last 4 seasons. If not S.Davis Chipmonk1
  • Score: 24

8:57am Tue 15 Jul 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

FIGHT AND WIN

None of this lardy fat sam sh1t ..... KING RON KOEMAN will play attractive football and an ATTACKING BRAND OF FOOTBALL.

Keep the MOMENTUM going LES and add to our wafer thin Squad ....

Talked to a Saints Fan in the BRIDGE - her idea was to get a SAINTS FOOTBALL ANNUAL underway .... the impression is that Ralph "FREDDY" Krueger seems to have had the stuffing knocked oiut of him with all the PR gaffes and content with inactivity - not knowing what to tackle first.

DON'T BE FOOLED into thinking the move with the WANTAWAY PLAYERS means we have some allegiance to "liverpooh" - they are and ALWAYS WILL BE scouse scum. COYR+WS

WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON
FIGHT AND WIN None of this lardy fat sam sh1t ..... KING RON KOEMAN will play attractive football and an ATTACKING BRAND OF FOOTBALL. Keep the MOMENTUM going LES and add to our wafer thin Squad .... Talked to a Saints Fan in the BRIDGE - her idea was to get a SAINTS FOOTBALL ANNUAL underway .... the impression is that Ralph "FREDDY" Krueger seems to have had the stuffing knocked oiut of him with all the PR gaffes and content with inactivity - not knowing what to tackle first. DON'T BE FOOLED into thinking the move with the WANTAWAY PLAYERS means we have some allegiance to "liverpooh" - they are and ALWAYS WILL BE scouse scum. COYR+WS WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: -12

8:58am Tue 15 Jul 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

regarding the SAINTS CAPTAIN - reward LOYALTY. COYR+WS
regarding the SAINTS CAPTAIN - reward LOYALTY. COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 1

9:02am Tue 15 Jul 14

damoose says...

New Captain I think will be Lovren
New Captain I think will be Lovren damoose
  • Score: -10

9:05am Tue 15 Jul 14

george chivers says...

Chipmonk1 wrote:
Excited to see RoKo say he wants to go 433 but for someone who hopes Gaston realises his potential, I'm not sure this will play to his strengths. In Uruguay's last game in the WC he showed what he is capable of, especially with set pieces. MoPo IMHO did not use him to his potential. Hope we finally see Gaston fully fit and at his best. Whatever I have absolute faith in RoKo.
How can you say you have absolute faith in ROKO when he hasn't picked a team or played a competitive game yet?

Surely at this stage it is best to keep an open mind about him, the team is not settled and we are several players short of a squad. And he is going to change he system. I'm optimistic but the proof of the pudding will be in the results and the strength of the squad when we get injuries and suspensions. Last year Poch upgraded and extending the training programmes. Will ROKO keep that going or back off a little because he is playing 433 which can be less intense in terms of possession?

We shall see. As I say the proof of the pudding is...
[quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: Excited to see RoKo say he wants to go 433 but for someone who hopes Gaston realises his potential, I'm not sure this will play to his strengths. In Uruguay's last game in the WC he showed what he is capable of, especially with set pieces. MoPo IMHO did not use him to his potential. Hope we finally see Gaston fully fit and at his best. Whatever I have absolute faith in RoKo.[/p][/quote]How can you say you have absolute faith in ROKO when he hasn't picked a team or played a competitive game yet? Surely at this stage it is best to keep an open mind about him, the team is not settled and we are several players short of a squad. And he is going to change he system. I'm optimistic but the proof of the pudding will be in the results and the strength of the squad when we get injuries and suspensions. Last year Poch upgraded and extending the training programmes. Will ROKO keep that going or back off a little because he is playing 433 which can be less intense in terms of possession? We shall see. As I say the proof of the pudding is... george chivers
  • Score: 11

9:07am Tue 15 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

pitbull wrote:
I can see Fonte being given the armband, possibly Steven Davis.

But getting into the "spirit" and raising a glass to the new season, I would like a Captain Morgan.
Fonte and Steve Davis both have the temperament and ability to captain the side but neither are nailed on certs to start every game and your captain has to be on the pitch. Captain Morgan it is, cheers!
[quote][p][bold]pitbull[/bold] wrote: I can see Fonte being given the armband, possibly Steven Davis. But getting into the "spirit" and raising a glass to the new season, I would like a Captain Morgan.[/p][/quote]Fonte and Steve Davis both have the temperament and ability to captain the side but neither are nailed on certs to start every game and your captain has to be on the pitch. Captain Morgan it is, cheers! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 16

9:17am Tue 15 Jul 14

truelysaints says...

Word of warning. Very few world class footballers have been good manager of top flight football teams. Lets hope RK is one of the exceptions.
Word of warning. Very few world class footballers have been good manager of top flight football teams. Lets hope RK is one of the exceptions. truelysaints
  • Score: -21

9:19am Tue 15 Jul 14

NC Fan4Life says...

I also hope that Morgan gets the captaincy and we should offer him an improved contract, he is our most important player.

I would also hope that we have a few young academy players ready to step in but think that this season they will need easing in and hopefully break through next season, but they improve competition for places.

We need a LB but is Matty Targett ready, but we need cover anyway so buy a top quality LB who can overlap and put a cross on Pelle's head.

We also need to buy a top CB and GK as I don't think we have anyone for these positions to really tighten the defense up.

Also we MUST score more goals next season so we must get a striker to score another 20+ goals.

To maximize the use of Pelle's height in a 4-3-3 system we need a pacy winger option who can get to the line and cross well. So can the likes of McQueen or Isgrove step up ? if not just yet then Redmond or Sinclair with Prem experience would be good options.

Midfield is covered especially if Harrison Reed can step up and if James W-P can improve and command a first team place.

With regards the extra Striker we need, do we have that player in the club ? J-Rod is not back until January so we do need one with pace if possible.
Gallagher needs another season and not sure any other young players are ready yet.
However has Emanuel Mayuka improved ? he does have pace.
Can Osvaldo be brought back into the fold and form a formidable Italian strike force ?
Is Billy Sharp able to step up and feed off Pelle's knock downs ?
Not sure any are the answer so a proven Striker on loan may be the answer, like Lukaku !!

Therefore I think 5 players are still required GK, LB, CB, W & Striker.

Need 2 or 3 in asap to settle into the team & the other 2 or 3 before the window closes. So busy time for you Les Reed !!

We have the cash and RonKo can attract these players so get them in and lets kick on and give everyone a surprise next season.

Getting excited - COYR&WS
I also hope that Morgan gets the captaincy and we should offer him an improved contract, he is our most important player. I would also hope that we have a few young academy players ready to step in but think that this season they will need easing in and hopefully break through next season, but they improve competition for places. We need a LB but is Matty Targett ready, but we need cover anyway so buy a top quality LB who can overlap and put a cross on Pelle's head. We also need to buy a top CB and GK as I don't think we have anyone for these positions to really tighten the defense up. Also we MUST score more goals next season so we must get a striker to score another 20+ goals. To maximize the use of Pelle's height in a 4-3-3 system we need a pacy winger option who can get to the line and cross well. So can the likes of McQueen or Isgrove step up ? if not just yet then Redmond or Sinclair with Prem experience would be good options. Midfield is covered especially if Harrison Reed can step up and if James W-P can improve and command a first team place. With regards the extra Striker we need, do we have that player in the club ? J-Rod is not back until January so we do need one with pace if possible. Gallagher needs another season and not sure any other young players are ready yet. However has Emanuel Mayuka improved ? he does have pace. Can Osvaldo be brought back into the fold and form a formidable Italian strike force ? Is Billy Sharp able to step up and feed off Pelle's knock downs ? Not sure any are the answer so a proven Striker on loan may be the answer, like Lukaku !! Therefore I think 5 players are still required GK, LB, CB, W & Striker. Need 2 or 3 in asap to settle into the team & the other 2 or 3 before the window closes. So busy time for you Les Reed !! We have the cash and RonKo can attract these players so get them in and lets kick on and give everyone a surprise next season. Getting excited - COYR&WS NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 8

9:21am Tue 15 Jul 14

steekeemcglue says...

Victor ain't gonna flourish in a 4-3-3 ... his instinct is to run a central channel.... it will be interesting to see if he figures in RKs plans... Also 4-3-3 against the better sides could quickly become a 4-5-1 for most of the game and its a formation that sounds attacking but can become very defensive very quickly if the other teams deploys wide attacking players... Shame we do not have better CHs , otherwise I am sure RK would consider 3-4-3 / 3-5-2 which is more stable but like he said , the players dictate the formation. Smart man..... Also refreshing to hear a manager talk so openly about tactics, too often its too cagey but this shows a confident guy...
Victor ain't gonna flourish in a 4-3-3 ... his instinct is to run a central channel.... it will be interesting to see if he figures in RKs plans... Also 4-3-3 against the better sides could quickly become a 4-5-1 for most of the game and its a formation that sounds attacking but can become very defensive very quickly if the other teams deploys wide attacking players... Shame we do not have better CHs , otherwise I am sure RK would consider 3-4-3 / 3-5-2 which is more stable but like he said , the players dictate the formation. Smart man..... Also refreshing to hear a manager talk so openly about tactics, too often its too cagey but this shows a confident guy... steekeemcglue
  • Score: 15

9:25am Tue 15 Jul 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

like to see GASTON improve this Season by making an impact and when breaking through ... hitting the Target and scoring Goals.

He currently gets the opportunity to spectacularly SHOOT WIDE. This can be coached and improved. Look at Punch - who could not hit a barn door with his wild shooting.

LIKE to see the Team running at defenders and scaring the life out of them - and if chopped down - SCORING on the set piece - OR breaking through for an assist or GOAL.

Lots of Saints Fans may not have liked JUDAS (MP) as a person - but did approve of his coaching methods and CONTROLLING the game of football with stacks of possession.

COYR+WS
like to see GASTON improve this Season by making an impact and when breaking through ... hitting the Target and scoring Goals. He currently gets the opportunity to spectacularly SHOOT WIDE. This can be coached and improved. Look at Punch - who could not hit a barn door with his wild shooting. LIKE to see the Team running at defenders and scaring the life out of them - and if chopped down - SCORING on the set piece - OR breaking through for an assist or GOAL. Lots of Saints Fans may not have liked JUDAS (MP) as a person - but did approve of his coaching methods and CONTROLLING the game of football with stacks of possession. COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 6

9:32am Tue 15 Jul 14

Chipmonk1 says...

george chivers wrote:
Chipmonk1 wrote:
Excited to see RoKo say he wants to go 433 but for someone who hopes Gaston realises his potential, I'm not sure this will play to his strengths. In Uruguay's last game in the WC he showed what he is capable of, especially with set pieces. MoPo IMHO did not use him to his potential. Hope we finally see Gaston fully fit and at his best. Whatever I have absolute faith in RoKo.
How can you say you have absolute faith in ROKO when he hasn't picked a team or played a competitive game yet?

Surely at this stage it is best to keep an open mind about him, the team is not settled and we are several players short of a squad. And he is going to change he system. I'm optimistic but the proof of the pudding will be in the results and the strength of the squad when we get injuries and suspensions. Last year Poch upgraded and extending the training programmes. Will ROKO keep that going or back off a little because he is playing 433 which can be less intense in terms of possession?

We shall see. As I say the proof of the pudding is...
Fair point George and none of us can know how things will pan out and I am probably waxing lyrical but I have a good feeling about RoKo. He seems strong but fair, looking from the outside of course. Also he has achieved just about everything anyone can in football and will likely get the respect of the squad.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: Excited to see RoKo say he wants to go 433 but for someone who hopes Gaston realises his potential, I'm not sure this will play to his strengths. In Uruguay's last game in the WC he showed what he is capable of, especially with set pieces. MoPo IMHO did not use him to his potential. Hope we finally see Gaston fully fit and at his best. Whatever I have absolute faith in RoKo.[/p][/quote]How can you say you have absolute faith in ROKO when he hasn't picked a team or played a competitive game yet? Surely at this stage it is best to keep an open mind about him, the team is not settled and we are several players short of a squad. And he is going to change he system. I'm optimistic but the proof of the pudding will be in the results and the strength of the squad when we get injuries and suspensions. Last year Poch upgraded and extending the training programmes. Will ROKO keep that going or back off a little because he is playing 433 which can be less intense in terms of possession? We shall see. As I say the proof of the pudding is...[/p][/quote]Fair point George and none of us can know how things will pan out and I am probably waxing lyrical but I have a good feeling about RoKo. He seems strong but fair, looking from the outside of course. Also he has achieved just about everything anyone can in football and will likely get the respect of the squad. Chipmonk1
  • Score: 11

9:32am Tue 15 Jul 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Regarding systems, whilst RonKo may prefer a 4-3-3, Saints also need to be adaptable and able to change when needed.

Therefore bringing in players to give those options especially the CB, LB and Winger are needed for a 3-5-2 or a 4-5-1 when away defending a lead.

I am sure that RonKo knows this but I hope he continues the pressing game as well as attractive football but most of all more lethal in front of goal.

COYS
Regarding systems, whilst RonKo may prefer a 4-3-3, Saints also need to be adaptable and able to change when needed. Therefore bringing in players to give those options especially the CB, LB and Winger are needed for a 3-5-2 or a 4-5-1 when away defending a lead. I am sure that RonKo knows this but I hope he continues the pressing game as well as attractive football but most of all more lethal in front of goal. COYS NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 6

9:39am Tue 15 Jul 14

St. Case says...

pitbull wrote:
How about The Echo run a poll on who should be the new Captain.
What's the point in that? The Echo readers doesn't pick the captain, Big Ron does!
[quote][p][bold]pitbull[/bold] wrote: How about The Echo run a poll on who should be the new Captain.[/p][/quote]What's the point in that? The Echo readers doesn't pick the captain, Big Ron does! St. Case
  • Score: -10

9:40am Tue 15 Jul 14

steekeemcglue says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
Regarding systems, whilst RonKo may prefer a 4-3-3, Saints also need to be adaptable and able to change when needed.

Therefore bringing in players to give those options especially the CB, LB and Winger are needed for a 3-5-2 or a 4-5-1 when away defending a lead.

I am sure that RonKo knows this but I hope he continues the pressing game as well as attractive football but most of all more lethal in front of goal.

COYS
the 'pressing' game is just an illusion.... it brought us not enough end product at home. RK will only play 3-?-? with three centre halves that are all good enough at passing the ball.... we have not got that. HE won't play 3 at the back with full backs. 4-3-3 and 4-5-1 are effectively the same thing , just in different periods of play... people sometimes get too derailed over formations, but in a nutshell,,, at professional level , you either play 4 across midfield and then decide tactically how your full backs will play , or you play 3/5 across the midfield and have virtually no overlapping fullbacks. I actually prefer this later style because it tends to squeeze the play more often in the central strip and releases space for flair players to run into and I am thinking about our two new signings and JayRod. People often mistakingly think 4-3-3 is a naturally attacking formation , well its not , it usually means full backs stay closer to centre halves and it can become a very attractive patient game, well balanced and perfectly suited to most of our lads....
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Regarding systems, whilst RonKo may prefer a 4-3-3, Saints also need to be adaptable and able to change when needed. Therefore bringing in players to give those options especially the CB, LB and Winger are needed for a 3-5-2 or a 4-5-1 when away defending a lead. I am sure that RonKo knows this but I hope he continues the pressing game as well as attractive football but most of all more lethal in front of goal. COYS[/p][/quote]the 'pressing' game is just an illusion.... it brought us not enough end product at home. RK will only play 3-?-? with three centre halves that are all good enough at passing the ball.... we have not got that. HE won't play 3 at the back with full backs. 4-3-3 and 4-5-1 are effectively the same thing , just in different periods of play... people sometimes get too derailed over formations, but in a nutshell,,, at professional level , you either play 4 across midfield and then decide tactically how your full backs will play , or you play 3/5 across the midfield and have virtually no overlapping fullbacks. I actually prefer this later style because it tends to squeeze the play more often in the central strip and releases space for flair players to run into and I am thinking about our two new signings and JayRod. People often mistakingly think 4-3-3 is a naturally attacking formation , well its not , it usually means full backs stay closer to centre halves and it can become a very attractive patient game, well balanced and perfectly suited to most of our lads.... steekeemcglue
  • Score: 7

9:58am Tue 15 Jul 14

Sainty saint saint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
pitbull wrote:
I can see Fonte being given the armband, possibly Steven Davis.

But getting into the "spirit" and raising a glass to the new season, I would like a Captain Morgan.
Fonte and Steve Davis both have the temperament and ability to captain the side but neither are nailed on certs to start every game and your captain has to be on the pitch. Captain Morgan it is, cheers!
I wouldn't be surprised if Steve Davis does become a nailed on cert this season, and also wouldn't be surprised to see him made captain.

That said, I'd definitely prefer Spiderman because (a) I think he's the most important member of the team, and (b) it would mean he was committing to the club for the foreseeable future.

So my choice (not that it's anything to do with me!) would be Spider if he's staying, and Davis if Spider is moving on.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pitbull[/bold] wrote: I can see Fonte being given the armband, possibly Steven Davis. But getting into the "spirit" and raising a glass to the new season, I would like a Captain Morgan.[/p][/quote]Fonte and Steve Davis both have the temperament and ability to captain the side but neither are nailed on certs to start every game and your captain has to be on the pitch. Captain Morgan it is, cheers![/p][/quote]I wouldn't be surprised if Steve Davis does become a nailed on cert this season, and also wouldn't be surprised to see him made captain. That said, I'd definitely prefer Spiderman because (a) I think he's the most important member of the team, and (b) it would mean he was committing to the club for the foreseeable future. So my choice (not that it's anything to do with me!) would be Spider if he's staying, and Davis if Spider is moving on. Sainty saint saint
  • Score: 4

10:00am Tue 15 Jul 14

Sammy2sheds says...

Davis as captain.he looks serious and won't take crap.
Davis as captain.he looks serious and won't take crap. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 0

10:12am Tue 15 Jul 14

pitbull says...

St. Case wrote:
pitbull wrote:
How about The Echo run a poll on who should be the new Captain.
What's the point in that? The Echo readers doesn't pick the captain, Big Ron does!
It's called Public Opinion.
[quote][p][bold]St. Case[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pitbull[/bold] wrote: How about The Echo run a poll on who should be the new Captain.[/p][/quote]What's the point in that? The Echo readers doesn't pick the captain, Big Ron does![/p][/quote]It's called Public Opinion. pitbull
  • Score: 6

10:30am Tue 15 Jul 14

right back in the bar says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
pitbull wrote:
I can see Fonte being given the armband, possibly Steven Davis.

But getting into the "spirit" and raising a glass to the new season, I would like a Captain Morgan.
Fonte and Steve Davis both have the temperament and ability to captain the side but neither are nailed on certs to start every game and your captain has to be on the pitch. Captain Morgan it is, cheers!
I wouldn't be surprised if Steve Davis does become a nailed on cert this season, and also wouldn't be surprised to see him made captain.

That said, I'd definitely prefer Spiderman because (a) I think he's the most important member of the team, and (b) it would mean he was committing to the club for the foreseeable future.

So my choice (not that it's anything to do with me!) would be Spider if he's staying, and Davis if Spider is moving on.
Much as like Spider the formation MP used to play fit him like a glove. Will 4-3-3 suit him as much? Don't know but it will suit Steven Davis who can get up and down the pitch and score goals. I think he could play a more influential role this season and should be captain.
Davis, JWP and JC will make this work with Tadic , Ramirez and Pelle up front (VW can drop in there if we need some steel). Feel sure our football will be more exciting this season and we will score more goals. We were too predictable many times last season good riddance to MP Spurs will find it tough because everyone knows what to expect. Can't wait now.
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pitbull[/bold] wrote: I can see Fonte being given the armband, possibly Steven Davis. But getting into the "spirit" and raising a glass to the new season, I would like a Captain Morgan.[/p][/quote]Fonte and Steve Davis both have the temperament and ability to captain the side but neither are nailed on certs to start every game and your captain has to be on the pitch. Captain Morgan it is, cheers![/p][/quote]I wouldn't be surprised if Steve Davis does become a nailed on cert this season, and also wouldn't be surprised to see him made captain. That said, I'd definitely prefer Spiderman because (a) I think he's the most important member of the team, and (b) it would mean he was committing to the club for the foreseeable future. So my choice (not that it's anything to do with me!) would be Spider if he's staying, and Davis if Spider is moving on.[/p][/quote]Much as like Spider the formation MP used to play fit him like a glove. Will 4-3-3 suit him as much? Don't know but it will suit Steven Davis who can get up and down the pitch and score goals. I think he could play a more influential role this season and should be captain. Davis, JWP and JC will make this work with Tadic , Ramirez and Pelle up front (VW can drop in there if we need some steel). Feel sure our football will be more exciting this season and we will score more goals. We were too predictable many times last season good riddance to MP Spurs will find it tough because everyone knows what to expect. Can't wait now. right back in the bar
  • Score: 5

10:47am Tue 15 Jul 14

Costa Baz says...

steekeemcglue wrote:
Victor ain't gonna flourish in a 4-3-3 ... his instinct is to run a central channel.... it will be interesting to see if he figures in RKs plans... Also 4-3-3 against the better sides could quickly become a 4-5-1 for most of the game and its a formation that sounds attacking but can become very defensive very quickly if the other teams deploys wide attacking players... Shame we do not have better CHs , otherwise I am sure RK would consider 3-4-3 / 3-5-2 which is more stable but like he said , the players dictate the formation. Smart man..... Also refreshing to hear a manager talk so openly about tactics, too often its too cagey but this shows a confident guy...
I think Victor would be an integral part of a 433 formation.

I think he will be the central midfielder, who sits in front of, and between the centre backs, creating a solid centre. This would allow the full backs to push forward, with the cb's being able to spread out to cover the gaps, behind them, knowing that Victor has the middle covered.

But whatever the formation, the important thing for me, is the fluidity with which the players adapt the team shape to the changing situations on the pitch.
If we are under pressure, 433 can easily become 451, equally, when we have the ball, with a deep sitting midfielder, it can become 343, giving more options in the opponent's area.
[quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote: Victor ain't gonna flourish in a 4-3-3 ... his instinct is to run a central channel.... it will be interesting to see if he figures in RKs plans... Also 4-3-3 against the better sides could quickly become a 4-5-1 for most of the game and its a formation that sounds attacking but can become very defensive very quickly if the other teams deploys wide attacking players... Shame we do not have better CHs , otherwise I am sure RK would consider 3-4-3 / 3-5-2 which is more stable but like he said , the players dictate the formation. Smart man..... Also refreshing to hear a manager talk so openly about tactics, too often its too cagey but this shows a confident guy...[/p][/quote]I think Victor would be an integral part of a 433 formation. I think he will be the central midfielder, who sits in front of, and between the centre backs, creating a solid centre. This would allow the full backs to push forward, with the cb's being able to spread out to cover the gaps, behind them, knowing that Victor has the middle covered. But whatever the formation, the important thing for me, is the fluidity with which the players adapt the team shape to the changing situations on the pitch. If we are under pressure, 433 can easily become 451, equally, when we have the ball, with a deep sitting midfielder, it can become 343, giving more options in the opponent's area. Costa Baz
  • Score: 6

10:51am Tue 15 Jul 14

Costa Baz says...

damoose wrote:
New Captain I think will be Lovren
Don't know why you are getting thumbs down for this?

If Ronko truly wants Lovren to stay, then tell him he is leading the team out and see how he reacts.
If the response is poor, then put him on the next plane back to the UK and tell him to train with the academy.
[quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: New Captain I think will be Lovren[/p][/quote]Don't know why you are getting thumbs down for this? If Ronko truly wants Lovren to stay, then tell him he is leading the team out and see how he reacts. If the response is poor, then put him on the next plane back to the UK and tell him to train with the academy. Costa Baz
  • Score: 14

11:02am Tue 15 Jul 14

Chapperall says...

The 433 style of playing is proven in the PL. Although our pressing style was sometimes nice to watch we really struggled with goals, particularly towards the end of the season. I think all our current players are capable of all styles of playing as they can all hold and pass the ball well.
We will miss Shaws runs from the back and his crosses so will need to be able to compensate for this on the left side.
Can't wait to see who the next new recruit is!
The 433 style of playing is proven in the PL. Although our pressing style was sometimes nice to watch we really struggled with goals, particularly towards the end of the season. I think all our current players are capable of all styles of playing as they can all hold and pass the ball well. We will miss Shaws runs from the back and his crosses so will need to be able to compensate for this on the left side. Can't wait to see who the next new recruit is! Chapperall
  • Score: 2

11:19am Tue 15 Jul 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

It depends if Morgan stays but, is he real leadership quality? I didn't think Lallana should have been captain (I wanted Lambert!), we need someone who is experienced and has a big personality. Morgan is too shy for the job, i can't see him shouting at everyone geeing them up if we're losing a match. How many games did we come back from after going down a goal or two? None or not many... I think Davis and Fonte are good shouts for now but, Wanyama would be the better shout because he's young and hungry, captain of his country too and will surely be a starter.

On another note has anyone seen Mayuka?? He looks like a brick **** house!!!

Would be great if he can step up to the plate! Maybe we don't need as many new players as people think... We have excellent squad players coming through and coming back from loans; Mayuka, Isgrove, Targett, Turnbull, Sinclair, McQueen...

If we are to bring the youth through I would think we only need 3 or 4 quality signings (at least 2 need to be experienced).

The future is bright for the red n white!!
It depends if Morgan stays but, is he real leadership quality? I didn't think Lallana should have been captain (I wanted Lambert!), we need someone who is experienced and has a big personality. Morgan is too shy for the job, i can't see him shouting at everyone geeing them up if we're losing a match. How many games did we come back from after going down a goal or two? None or not many... I think Davis and Fonte are good shouts for now but, Wanyama would be the better shout because he's young and hungry, captain of his country too and will surely be a starter. On another note has anyone seen Mayuka?? He looks like a brick **** house!!! Would be great if he can step up to the plate! Maybe we don't need as many new players as people think... We have excellent squad players coming through and coming back from loans; Mayuka, Isgrove, Targett, Turnbull, Sinclair, McQueen... If we are to bring the youth through I would think we only need 3 or 4 quality signings (at least 2 need to be experienced). The future is bright for the red n white!! SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: 6

11:23am Tue 15 Jul 14

Confucious says...

4-3-3 has considerable merit, but switching from 4-2-3-1 to 4-3-3 is less risky if first using 4-5-1 as an interim followed by a short spell with 4-4-2. Then 4-5-2 can be reverted to if 4-3-3 doesn't work out - and the transition to 4-2-3-1 for certain tough away matches is a smaller adjustment to make from 4-5-2 than from 4-4-2 - or indeed the move to 3-5-3 when attack becomes essential late in matches.

The Dutch way is always well organised and disciplined and Dutch players take to this well because their school system, involving old-fashioned memorising by rota, enables them to count very well. If you watch a kids school match in the UK they are either all over the place eg in a 1-8-1 or an 0-2-8 or semi-frozen as they keep pausing to do the formation counting.

You also have to watch out with foreign players in the team because they can easily make the mistake of confusing two with to or too and four with 'for' eg instructions to switch to 4-2-5 may be taken to mean switching the back 4 to 5 or 4-4-2 to swap 4 for 2 or indeed going for 4-4-too.

I'm sure Ronald is aware of all this, but just in case I have e mailed Mrs Wilson who is passing on my advice.
4-3-3 has considerable merit, but switching from 4-2-3-1 to 4-3-3 is less risky if first using 4-5-1 as an interim followed by a short spell with 4-4-2. Then 4-5-2 can be reverted to if 4-3-3 doesn't work out - and the transition to 4-2-3-1 for certain tough away matches is a smaller adjustment to make from 4-5-2 than from 4-4-2 - or indeed the move to 3-5-3 when attack becomes essential late in matches. The Dutch way is always well organised and disciplined and Dutch players take to this well because their school system, involving old-fashioned memorising by rota, enables them to count very well. If you watch a kids school match in the UK they are either all over the place eg in a 1-8-1 or an 0-2-8 or semi-frozen as they keep pausing to do the formation counting. You also have to watch out with foreign players in the team because they can easily make the mistake of confusing two with to or too and four with 'for' eg instructions to switch to 4-2-5 may be taken to mean switching the back 4 to 5 or 4-4-2 to swap 4 for 2 or indeed going for 4-4-too. I'm sure Ronald is aware of all this, but just in case I have e mailed Mrs Wilson who is passing on my advice. Confucious
  • Score: 8

11:25am Tue 15 Jul 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
pitbull wrote:
I can see Fonte being given the armband, possibly Steven Davis.

But getting into the "spirit" and raising a glass to the new season, I would like a Captain Morgan.
Fonte and Steve Davis both have the temperament and ability to captain the side but neither are nailed on certs to start every game and your captain has to be on the pitch. Captain Morgan it is, cheers!
I wouldn't be surprised if Steve Davis does become a nailed on cert this season, and also wouldn't be surprised to see him made captain.

That said, I'd definitely prefer Spiderman because (a) I think he's the most important member of the team, and (b) it would mean he was committing to the club for the foreseeable future.

So my choice (not that it's anything to do with me!) would be Spider if he's staying, and Davis if Spider is moving on.
But he's not committed though is he! He wants to play for Arsenal!

If he wanted to stay here he would have said so in the press but he hasn't because he's probably playing us like Lallana and Shaw did. He's already said he wants to play for a "big" club...
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pitbull[/bold] wrote: I can see Fonte being given the armband, possibly Steven Davis. But getting into the "spirit" and raising a glass to the new season, I would like a Captain Morgan.[/p][/quote]Fonte and Steve Davis both have the temperament and ability to captain the side but neither are nailed on certs to start every game and your captain has to be on the pitch. Captain Morgan it is, cheers![/p][/quote]I wouldn't be surprised if Steve Davis does become a nailed on cert this season, and also wouldn't be surprised to see him made captain. That said, I'd definitely prefer Spiderman because (a) I think he's the most important member of the team, and (b) it would mean he was committing to the club for the foreseeable future. So my choice (not that it's anything to do with me!) would be Spider if he's staying, and Davis if Spider is moving on.[/p][/quote]But he's not committed though is he! He wants to play for Arsenal! If he wanted to stay here he would have said so in the press but he hasn't because he's probably playing us like Lallana and Shaw did. He's already said he wants to play for a "big" club... SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: 1

11:25am Tue 15 Jul 14

Sammy2sheds says...

Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.
Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: -8

11:34am Tue 15 Jul 14

Knackers says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.
Yeah Sammy I just had a look and it's pretty depleted and inexperienced.we need to get some players in to compliment the youngsters.what happened to all these top players les said were begging to join us?
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.[/p][/quote]Yeah Sammy I just had a look and it's pretty depleted and inexperienced.we need to get some players in to compliment the youngsters.what happened to all these top players les said were begging to join us? Knackers
  • Score: -5

11:43am Tue 15 Jul 14

Jan28th1984 says...

Shame about Osvaldo - a Sharp, Osvaldo, Pelle front line would put the wind up quite a few Premiership defences....

4-3-3 sounds a bit conventional to me but Koeman is the gaffer and he knows what he is doing. Perhaps if we had more options in the squad he might play a different formation?

The name of the game these days is adaptability. Mourinho and Rodgers demonstrated it against us last season by changing the way they played midway through their game against us, whereas we did not react to them. We need more players to give us more options.

I hope Koeman has more tactical sense than Poch - I guess time will tell but the early signs look good.

COYS.
Shame about Osvaldo - a Sharp, Osvaldo, Pelle front line would put the wind up quite a few Premiership defences.... 4-3-3 sounds a bit conventional to me but Koeman is the gaffer and he knows what he is doing. Perhaps if we had more options in the squad he might play a different formation? The name of the game these days is adaptability. Mourinho and Rodgers demonstrated it against us last season by changing the way they played midway through their game against us, whereas we did not react to them. We need more players to give us more options. I hope Koeman has more tactical sense than Poch - I guess time will tell but the early signs look good. COYS. Jan28th1984
  • Score: 3

11:47am Tue 15 Jul 14

gr8saint says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.
Interesting, considering they're only one player short overall!
Sold 3
Bought 2 (both there)
3 returned from loan (all there)

Yoshida and Lovren training separately, Jrod in rehab work.
And of course, Osvaldo, Schneiderlin, Ramirez not currently there.
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.[/p][/quote]Interesting, considering they're only one player short overall! Sold 3 Bought 2 (both there) 3 returned from loan (all there) Yoshida and Lovren training separately, Jrod in rehab work. And of course, Osvaldo, Schneiderlin, Ramirez not currently there. gr8saint
  • Score: 6

11:50am Tue 15 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.
It isn't great, but three are missing, Vic, Spider and Gaston, four if you count Osvaldo (not counting JRod). I would imagine we will need to know whether any of the wantaways are going before we can commit to replacements and back ups. There are a few other good young ones with the development squad so we wouldn't have much problem putting up a functional eleven. Time is getting short, but you cannot make rash decisions at this time. I have little doubt that RonKo has made clear what he needs, meeting those needs is a difficult task, but I am putting my trust in the board and the management to get it right in time.
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.[/p][/quote]It isn't great, but three are missing, Vic, Spider and Gaston, four if you count Osvaldo (not counting JRod). I would imagine we will need to know whether any of the wantaways are going before we can commit to replacements and back ups. There are a few other good young ones with the development squad so we wouldn't have much problem putting up a functional eleven. Time is getting short, but you cannot make rash decisions at this time. I have little doubt that RonKo has made clear what he needs, meeting those needs is a difficult task, but I am putting my trust in the board and the management to get it right in time. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 4

11:52am Tue 15 Jul 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
pitbull wrote:
I can see Fonte being given the armband, possibly Steven Davis.

But getting into the "spirit" and raising a glass to the new season, I would like a Captain Morgan.
Fonte and Steve Davis both have the temperament and ability to captain the side but neither are nailed on certs to start every game and your captain has to be on the pitch. Captain Morgan it is, cheers!
I wouldn't be surprised if Steve Davis does become a nailed on cert this season, and also wouldn't be surprised to see him made captain.

That said, I'd definitely prefer Spiderman because (a) I think he's the most important member of the team, and (b) it would mean he was committing to the club for the foreseeable future.

So my choice (not that it's anything to do with me!) would be Spider if he's staying, and Davis if Spider is moving on.
If not Spider, than Jack Cork.

Mind you, if Steve Davis plays as he did last season, there's no reason why he can't hold down a place in the starting 11 and take the responsibility.

Seed, I do agree about the captain having to be on the pitch, but, last season, what percentage of the total playing time was Captain (let me set a good example) Lallana on the pitch?
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pitbull[/bold] wrote: I can see Fonte being given the armband, possibly Steven Davis. But getting into the "spirit" and raising a glass to the new season, I would like a Captain Morgan.[/p][/quote]Fonte and Steve Davis both have the temperament and ability to captain the side but neither are nailed on certs to start every game and your captain has to be on the pitch. Captain Morgan it is, cheers![/p][/quote]I wouldn't be surprised if Steve Davis does become a nailed on cert this season, and also wouldn't be surprised to see him made captain. That said, I'd definitely prefer Spiderman because (a) I think he's the most important member of the team, and (b) it would mean he was committing to the club for the foreseeable future. So my choice (not that it's anything to do with me!) would be Spider if he's staying, and Davis if Spider is moving on.[/p][/quote]If not Spider, than Jack Cork. Mind you, if Steve Davis plays as he did last season, there's no reason why he can't hold down a place in the starting 11 and take the responsibility. Seed, I do agree about the captain having to be on the pitch, but, last season, what percentage of the total playing time was Captain (let me set a good example) Lallana on the pitch? Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 6

12:05pm Tue 15 Jul 14

echo1948 says...

Knackers wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.
Yeah Sammy I just had a look and it's pretty depleted and inexperienced.we need to get some players in to compliment the youngsters.what happened to all these top players les said were begging to join us?
Well said Knackers! I,ve been saying for weeks that we were going down the route of "playing the kids" I fear that the player buying is over now and what you see is what we,re going to get.
[quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.[/p][/quote]Yeah Sammy I just had a look and it's pretty depleted and inexperienced.we need to get some players in to compliment the youngsters.what happened to all these top players les said were begging to join us?[/p][/quote]Well said Knackers! I,ve been saying for weeks that we were going down the route of "playing the kids" I fear that the player buying is over now and what you see is what we,re going to get. echo1948
  • Score: -8

12:08pm Tue 15 Jul 14

alanrr says...

SouthamptonLegend wrote:
It depends if Morgan stays but, is he real leadership quality? I didn't think Lallana should have been captain (I wanted Lambert!), we need someone who is experienced and has a big personality. Morgan is too shy for the job, i can't see him shouting at everyone geeing them up if we're losing a match. How many games did we come back from after going down a goal or two? None or not many... I think Davis and Fonte are good shouts for now but, Wanyama would be the better shout because he's young and hungry, captain of his country too and will surely be a starter.

On another note has anyone seen Mayuka?? He looks like a brick **** house!!!

Would be great if he can step up to the plate! Maybe we don't need as many new players as people think... We have excellent squad players coming through and coming back from loans; Mayuka, Isgrove, Targett, Turnbull, Sinclair, McQueen...

If we are to bring the youth through I would think we only need 3 or 4 quality signings (at least 2 need to be experienced).

The future is bright for the red n white!!
Talking of captains, JWP will be in with a shout soon………..U21
s captain, and when he does play for us, which I think will more and more, he doesn’t take any crap from the more “senior” players, if you watch him closely…………
[quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote: It depends if Morgan stays but, is he real leadership quality? I didn't think Lallana should have been captain (I wanted Lambert!), we need someone who is experienced and has a big personality. Morgan is too shy for the job, i can't see him shouting at everyone geeing them up if we're losing a match. How many games did we come back from after going down a goal or two? None or not many... I think Davis and Fonte are good shouts for now but, Wanyama would be the better shout because he's young and hungry, captain of his country too and will surely be a starter. On another note has anyone seen Mayuka?? He looks like a brick **** house!!! Would be great if he can step up to the plate! Maybe we don't need as many new players as people think... We have excellent squad players coming through and coming back from loans; Mayuka, Isgrove, Targett, Turnbull, Sinclair, McQueen... If we are to bring the youth through I would think we only need 3 or 4 quality signings (at least 2 need to be experienced). The future is bright for the red n white!![/p][/quote]Talking of captains, JWP will be in with a shout soon………..U21 s captain, and when he does play for us, which I think will more and more, he doesn’t take any crap from the more “senior” players, if you watch him closely………… alanrr
  • Score: 4

12:10pm Tue 15 Jul 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

15 JULY 12:00

PLAYERS NEEDED :

Number 1 GK - when Artur has back injury like Man City Away - we need more than a rabbit in the headlights approach

CB needed to cover injuries and competition

Goal Scoring LB to replace Shaw.

Winger - to give Gaffer Option B/C/D/E

FORMATION CHANGE must be practised and there will be times needed to ADAPT from 4-3-3 to 4-5-1.

COYR+WS
15 JULY 12:00 PLAYERS NEEDED : Number 1 GK - when Artur has back injury like Man City Away - we need more than a rabbit in the headlights approach CB needed to cover injuries and competition Goal Scoring LB to replace Shaw. Winger - to give Gaffer Option B/C/D/E FORMATION CHANGE must be practised and there will be times needed to ADAPT from 4-3-3 to 4-5-1. COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 1

12:16pm Tue 15 Jul 14

miltonarcher says...

Play the "W" formation, that'll confuse the scousers!
Play the "W" formation, that'll confuse the scousers! miltonarcher
  • Score: 1

12:17pm Tue 15 Jul 14

SaintAsh1964 says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
15 JULY 12:00

PLAYERS NEEDED :

Number 1 GK - when Artur has back injury like Man City Away - we need more than a rabbit in the headlights approach

CB needed to cover injuries and competition

Goal Scoring LB to replace Shaw.

Winger - to give Gaffer Option B/C/D/E

FORMATION CHANGE must be practised and there will be times needed to ADAPT from 4-3-3 to 4-5-1.

COYR+WS
why would we need a goal scoring left back to replace Shaw as he didnt score any goals last year?
And dont be surprised if we go 5/3/2
COYS
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: 15 JULY 12:00 PLAYERS NEEDED : Number 1 GK - when Artur has back injury like Man City Away - we need more than a rabbit in the headlights approach CB needed to cover injuries and competition Goal Scoring LB to replace Shaw. Winger - to give Gaffer Option B/C/D/E FORMATION CHANGE must be practised and there will be times needed to ADAPT from 4-3-3 to 4-5-1. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]why would we need a goal scoring left back to replace Shaw as he didnt score any goals last year? And dont be surprised if we go 5/3/2 COYS SaintAsh1964
  • Score: 3

12:27pm Tue 15 Jul 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

15 JULY 12:00 EXTRA +++

We also need COVER for TOP STRIKER - cannot use one Main Striker to be single WAR HORSE worked to death like lambert.

JROD not back until January. Can we use Osvaldo or Mayuka - Gallagher can certainly keep working hard for a run in the League CUP. Billy Sharp was assessed as too slow by Nigel

Really like to get LAKAKU from under everton's noses - we have the money.

EVERY GAME IN THE PREMIERSHIP IS TOUGH.
15 JULY 12:00 EXTRA +++ We also need COVER for TOP STRIKER - cannot use one Main Striker to be single WAR HORSE worked to death like lambert. JROD not back until January. Can we use Osvaldo or Mayuka - Gallagher can certainly keep working hard for a run in the League CUP. Billy Sharp was assessed as too slow by Nigel Really like to get LAKAKU from under everton's noses - we have the money. EVERY GAME IN THE PREMIERSHIP IS TOUGH. The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 1

12:34pm Tue 15 Jul 14

gr8saint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.
It isn't great, but three are missing, Vic, Spider and Gaston, four if you count Osvaldo (not counting JRod). I would imagine we will need to know whether any of the wantaways are going before we can commit to replacements and back ups. There are a few other good young ones with the development squad so we wouldn't have much problem putting up a functional eleven. Time is getting short, but you cannot make rash decisions at this time. I have little doubt that RonKo has made clear what he needs, meeting those needs is a difficult task, but I am putting my trust in the board and the management to get it right in time.
I stand corrected! Totally forgot that big Vic was off on international duty.

Anyone seen the rumour coming from "Shoot" magazine?
They think RonKo is going after De Vrij.
http://shoot.co.uk/k
oeman-eyes-world-cup
-star/

Not convinced we'd fend off some of the competition, if it's true, but it would be nice!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.[/p][/quote]It isn't great, but three are missing, Vic, Spider and Gaston, four if you count Osvaldo (not counting JRod). I would imagine we will need to know whether any of the wantaways are going before we can commit to replacements and back ups. There are a few other good young ones with the development squad so we wouldn't have much problem putting up a functional eleven. Time is getting short, but you cannot make rash decisions at this time. I have little doubt that RonKo has made clear what he needs, meeting those needs is a difficult task, but I am putting my trust in the board and the management to get it right in time.[/p][/quote]I stand corrected! Totally forgot that big Vic was off on international duty. Anyone seen the rumour coming from "Shoot" magazine? They think RonKo is going after De Vrij. http://shoot.co.uk/k oeman-eyes-world-cup -star/ Not convinced we'd fend off some of the competition, if it's true, but it would be nice! gr8saint
  • Score: 2

12:34pm Tue 15 Jul 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

WE NEED GOALS IN OUR TEAM - not just one or 2 single sources.

Remember everton at HOME - when we pressed and relied on own goals.

When your Top Striker is being marked out of the game - UP steps the CB like Lovren at Anfield Away - to WIN the game.

everton's back contributed 10 goals in an exceptional season - wouldn't that be great to have that an as Option.

GOALS WIN GAMES. COYR+WS
WE NEED GOALS IN OUR TEAM - not just one or 2 single sources. Remember everton at HOME - when we pressed and relied on own goals. When your Top Striker is being marked out of the game - UP steps the CB like Lovren at Anfield Away - to WIN the game. everton's back contributed 10 goals in an exceptional season - wouldn't that be great to have that an as Option. GOALS WIN GAMES. COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 0

12:36pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Saintade says...

If we're going to play 4-3-3 then we need to strengthen further and quick! With Jay Rod out we only have one decent striker and no wingers! Ramirez is clearly never going to be good enough (he couldn't even stand out against lowly opposition in the cup!), Osvaldo is rubbish, the biggest waste of money ever and should never be allowed to play for us again anyway, and if we're pinning our hopes on them next season we're down by Christmas imo. Also, I hope Koeman doesn't change the pressing game that all our players are now used to. I worry that too big a change in style will mean the players won't know what they're doing - we need to be 100% on our game in that first match or we're gong to be turned over big style, and it's live on TV! I don't believe we've got anywhere near a side yet to even survive next season, so I trust Ronald is getting a few more players in yet...
If we're going to play 4-3-3 then we need to strengthen further and quick! With Jay Rod out we only have one decent striker and no wingers! Ramirez is clearly never going to be good enough (he couldn't even stand out against lowly opposition in the cup!), Osvaldo is rubbish, the biggest waste of money ever and should never be allowed to play for us again anyway, and if we're pinning our hopes on them next season we're down by Christmas imo. Also, I hope Koeman doesn't change the pressing game that all our players are now used to. I worry that too big a change in style will mean the players won't know what they're doing - we need to be 100% on our game in that first match or we're gong to be turned over big style, and it's live on TV! I don't believe we've got anywhere near a side yet to even survive next season, so I trust Ronald is getting a few more players in yet... Saintade
  • Score: -8

12:38pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Saintade says...

echo1948 wrote:
Knackers wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.
Yeah Sammy I just had a look and it's pretty depleted and inexperienced.we need to get some players in to compliment the youngsters.what happened to all these top players les said were begging to join us?
Well said Knackers! I,ve been saying for weeks that we were going down the route of "playing the kids" I fear that the player buying is over now and what you see is what we,re going to get.
Dutch total football, play the kids...ring any bells?
[quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.[/p][/quote]Yeah Sammy I just had a look and it's pretty depleted and inexperienced.we need to get some players in to compliment the youngsters.what happened to all these top players les said were begging to join us?[/p][/quote]Well said Knackers! I,ve been saying for weeks that we were going down the route of "playing the kids" I fear that the player buying is over now and what you see is what we,re going to get.[/p][/quote]Dutch total football, play the kids...ring any bells? Saintade
  • Score: 5

12:42pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Saintade says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
15 JULY 12:00 EXTRA +++

We also need COVER for TOP STRIKER - cannot use one Main Striker to be single WAR HORSE worked to death like lambert.

JROD not back until January. Can we use Osvaldo or Mayuka - Gallagher can certainly keep working hard for a run in the League CUP. Billy Sharp was assessed as too slow by Nigel

Really like to get LAKAKU from under everton's noses - we have the money.

EVERY GAME IN THE PREMIERSHIP IS TOUGH.
Osvaldo? Mayuka? Gallagher? Seriously? Did you not go to any games last season? Do you really think these ineffective players (they were ALL totally ineffective when they played last season) will suddenly become the best players in the Prem? Rose-tinted spectacles my friend!! Wish I had your optimism!
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: 15 JULY 12:00 EXTRA +++ We also need COVER for TOP STRIKER - cannot use one Main Striker to be single WAR HORSE worked to death like lambert. JROD not back until January. Can we use Osvaldo or Mayuka - Gallagher can certainly keep working hard for a run in the League CUP. Billy Sharp was assessed as too slow by Nigel Really like to get LAKAKU from under everton's noses - we have the money. EVERY GAME IN THE PREMIERSHIP IS TOUGH.[/p][/quote]Osvaldo? Mayuka? Gallagher? Seriously? Did you not go to any games last season? Do you really think these ineffective players (they were ALL totally ineffective when they played last season) will suddenly become the best players in the Prem? Rose-tinted spectacles my friend!! Wish I had your optimism! Saintade
  • Score: 0

12:49pm Tue 15 Jul 14

allsaintsnocurves says...

So the players in the running for the Captains armband:
Morgan
Davis
Lovren
Fonte

I think it will be between these players. Personally I would like to see Morgan get it. He hasn't disgraced himself this summer with all the talk of players leaving. He has been at the club a long time and come on leaps and bounds making the French national team. The manager will know if he wants the armband though.
Lovren would not be a popular choice with the fans but would indicate the managers ability of influence with the players in that he can smell a dressing room and who the players feel deserves the role.
Fonte we know would make a good captain as he is well regarded among the players.

I think Koeman could really get the best out of Ramirez this season and if that happens with Tadic we won't really miss Lallana or Lambert at all.

Imagine this team already:
Tadic Pelle Ramirez
Cork Morgan Davis
Target Lovren Fonte Clyne
Boruc

I'd say that doesn't look half as bad as I feared this summer!
So the players in the running for the Captains armband: Morgan Davis Lovren Fonte I think it will be between these players. Personally I would like to see Morgan get it. He hasn't disgraced himself this summer with all the talk of players leaving. He has been at the club a long time and come on leaps and bounds making the French national team. The manager will know if he wants the armband though. Lovren would not be a popular choice with the fans but would indicate the managers ability of influence with the players in that he can smell a dressing room and who the players feel deserves the role. Fonte we know would make a good captain as he is well regarded among the players. I think Koeman could really get the best out of Ramirez this season and if that happens with Tadic we won't really miss Lallana or Lambert at all. Imagine this team already: Tadic Pelle Ramirez Cork Morgan Davis Target Lovren Fonte Clyne Boruc I'd say that doesn't look half as bad as I feared this summer! allsaintsnocurves
  • Score: 8

12:52pm Tue 15 Jul 14

allsaintsnocurves says...

I think Koeman might start Clyne on the left if we don't sign a left back anytime soon...we'll see how Target does in pre-season.

This could be another team formation:
Tadic Pelle Ramirez
Morgan Wanayama JWP
Clyne Lovren Fonte Chambers
Boruc
I think Koeman might start Clyne on the left if we don't sign a left back anytime soon...we'll see how Target does in pre-season. This could be another team formation: Tadic Pelle Ramirez Morgan Wanayama JWP Clyne Lovren Fonte Chambers Boruc allsaintsnocurves
  • Score: 1

1:08pm Tue 15 Jul 14

NC Fan4Life says...

We all seem to agree that we need players in for the same positions.
Where I disagree with some of you is we should NOT waste money buying players 'for cover' ! We will not improve if we don't raise the level of the 11 on the pitch (Rupert made that mistake).

Any players we buy MUST be better than what we have got. The players they displace will have to raise their standard and try to win their place back and the younger ones to improve they are better.

So we agree we need a new No1 choice GK, LB, CB, and Striker plus a winger as an option.

We must be tighter in defense and need to score at least 20+ more goals this season. So a top Striker better than Pelle is a priority.

COYS
We all seem to agree that we need players in for the same positions. Where I disagree with some of you is we should NOT waste money buying players 'for cover' ! We will not improve if we don't raise the level of the 11 on the pitch (Rupert made that mistake). Any players we buy MUST be better than what we have got. The players they displace will have to raise their standard and try to win their place back and the younger ones to improve they are better. So we agree we need a new No1 choice GK, LB, CB, and Striker plus a winger as an option. We must be tighter in defense and need to score at least 20+ more goals this season. So a top Striker better than Pelle is a priority. COYS NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 4

1:10pm Tue 15 Jul 14

The Mad Dog says...

All football fans pic.twitter.com/lvW9
ClMWXT
http://epetitions.di
rect.gov.uk/petition
s/66835
Please, all football fans get behind this campaign for money that has not been paid and is owed by the PL clubs to be ploughed into Grassroots football
All football fans pic.twitter.com/lvW9 ClMWXT http://epetitions.di rect.gov.uk/petition s/66835 Please, all football fans get behind this campaign for money that has not been paid and is owed by the PL clubs to be ploughed into Grassroots football The Mad Dog
  • Score: 2

1:10pm Tue 15 Jul 14

SaintMatt97 says...

4-2-3-1, which we played last year, and 4-3-3 are not that different really. Obviously there is the back 4, and IMO we will still use the fullbacks goin forward a lot. Then the two more or less became a three last year with Spiderlin, cork and with big wan or JWP. Then we had SRL, Lielana and Jrod up top. So i really cant see that much of a difference between the 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1, other than it seems as if RoKo wants more going forward than last year, which is good news. Fingers crossed Gaston has a breakthrough season!!!
4-2-3-1, which we played last year, and 4-3-3 are not that different really. Obviously there is the back 4, and IMO we will still use the fullbacks goin forward a lot. Then the two more or less became a three last year with Spiderlin, cork and with big wan or JWP. Then we had SRL, Lielana and Jrod up top. So i really cant see that much of a difference between the 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1, other than it seems as if RoKo wants more going forward than last year, which is good news. Fingers crossed Gaston has a breakthrough season!!! SaintMatt97
  • Score: 4

1:13pm Tue 15 Jul 14

bullsbags says...

Chapperall wrote:
The 433 style of playing is proven in the PL. Although our pressing style was sometimes nice to watch we really struggled with goals, particularly towards the end of the season. I think all our current players are capable of all styles of playing as they can all hold and pass the ball well.
We will miss Shaws runs from the back and his crosses so will need to be able to compensate for this on the left side.
Can't wait to see who the next new recruit is!
Shaws runs resulted in 1 assist all season if I'm not mistaken
I imagine even cashley crated more than one
So missed I don't think so!
[quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: The 433 style of playing is proven in the PL. Although our pressing style was sometimes nice to watch we really struggled with goals, particularly towards the end of the season. I think all our current players are capable of all styles of playing as they can all hold and pass the ball well. We will miss Shaws runs from the back and his crosses so will need to be able to compensate for this on the left side. Can't wait to see who the next new recruit is![/p][/quote]Shaws runs resulted in 1 assist all season if I'm not mistaken I imagine even cashley crated more than one So missed I don't think so! bullsbags
  • Score: 1

1:14pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

echo1948 wrote:
Knackers wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.
Yeah Sammy I just had a look and it's pretty depleted and inexperienced.we need to get some players in to compliment the youngsters.what happened to all these top players les said were begging to join us?
Well said Knackers! I,ve been saying for weeks that we were going down the route of "playing the kids" I fear that the player buying is over now and what you see is what we,re going to get.
I watched the full interview with Les on YouTube for the first time last night. It was made a month ago before the departures were confirmed and before the announcement of Ron as manager. He states several times that if any sales were to happen then the money was guaranteed to be reinvested in the squad. He was unequivocal in this so I expect to see at least the money gained from recent sales and any others that might still happen spent on new players.

Mind you he was also adamant that no players would be sold until the new manager had been appointed and had met them and made his own decision. This obviously did not stack up with Ron's comments in last Fridays press conference, saying the deals were done before he took up the reigns, although he did say the club had kept him informed. Maybe he said I can get better players than them so sell them, but I doubt it.
[quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.[/p][/quote]Yeah Sammy I just had a look and it's pretty depleted and inexperienced.we need to get some players in to compliment the youngsters.what happened to all these top players les said were begging to join us?[/p][/quote]Well said Knackers! I,ve been saying for weeks that we were going down the route of "playing the kids" I fear that the player buying is over now and what you see is what we,re going to get.[/p][/quote]I watched the full interview with Les on YouTube for the first time last night. It was made a month ago before the departures were confirmed and before the announcement of Ron as manager. He states several times that if any sales were to happen then the money was guaranteed to be reinvested in the squad. He was unequivocal in this so I expect to see at least the money gained from recent sales and any others that might still happen spent on new players. Mind you he was also adamant that no players would be sold until the new manager had been appointed and had met them and made his own decision. This obviously did not stack up with Ron's comments in last Fridays press conference, saying the deals were done before he took up the reigns, although he did say the club had kept him informed. Maybe he said I can get better players than them so sell them, but I doubt it. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 2

1:14pm Tue 15 Jul 14

SaintMatt97 says...

JRod offered 5 year deal!!!
JRod offered 5 year deal!!! SaintMatt97
  • Score: 6

1:33pm Tue 15 Jul 14

NC Fan4Life says...

allsaintsnocurves wrote:
So the players in the running for the Captains armband:
Morgan
Davis
Lovren
Fonte

I think it will be between these players. Personally I would like to see Morgan get it. He hasn't disgraced himself this summer with all the talk of players leaving. He has been at the club a long time and come on leaps and bounds making the French national team. The manager will know if he wants the armband though.
Lovren would not be a popular choice with the fans but would indicate the managers ability of influence with the players in that he can smell a dressing room and who the players feel deserves the role.
Fonte we know would make a good captain as he is well regarded among the players.

I think Koeman could really get the best out of Ramirez this season and if that happens with Tadic we won't really miss Lallana or Lambert at all.

Imagine this team already:
Tadic Pelle Ramirez
Cork Morgan Davis
Target Lovren Fonte Clyne
Boruc

I'd say that doesn't look half as bad as I feared this summer!
Morgan for Captain as he is the only one likely to be first choice.

Assuming Tadic & Pelle prove to be as good as Adam & Ricky then we are only short of a good LB to be back to last seasons standard.

We must improve the defense so new FIRST CHOICE GK, CB & LB are required.

We MUST also score more goals so need sign another Striker who is BETTER than we have (including Pelle) is a priorty.

Then a pacy winger with a good cross as an option.

Get these in and we will be better next season other clubs are improving their squads so we also need to.

Get busy Les Reed you have 4 or 5 top players to sign yet. We can afford them & RonKo will attract them.

COYS
[quote][p][bold]allsaintsnocurves[/bold] wrote: So the players in the running for the Captains armband: Morgan Davis Lovren Fonte I think it will be between these players. Personally I would like to see Morgan get it. He hasn't disgraced himself this summer with all the talk of players leaving. He has been at the club a long time and come on leaps and bounds making the French national team. The manager will know if he wants the armband though. Lovren would not be a popular choice with the fans but would indicate the managers ability of influence with the players in that he can smell a dressing room and who the players feel deserves the role. Fonte we know would make a good captain as he is well regarded among the players. I think Koeman could really get the best out of Ramirez this season and if that happens with Tadic we won't really miss Lallana or Lambert at all. Imagine this team already: Tadic Pelle Ramirez Cork Morgan Davis Target Lovren Fonte Clyne Boruc I'd say that doesn't look half as bad as I feared this summer![/p][/quote]Morgan for Captain as he is the only one likely to be first choice. Assuming Tadic & Pelle prove to be as good as Adam & Ricky then we are only short of a good LB to be back to last seasons standard. We must improve the defense so new FIRST CHOICE GK, CB & LB are required. We MUST also score more goals so need sign another Striker who is BETTER than we have (including Pelle) is a priorty. Then a pacy winger with a good cross as an option. Get these in and we will be better next season other clubs are improving their squads so we also need to. Get busy Les Reed you have 4 or 5 top players to sign yet. We can afford them & RonKo will attract them. COYS NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 4

1:34pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Jan28th1984 says...

gr8saint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.
It isn't great, but three are missing, Vic, Spider and Gaston, four if you count Osvaldo (not counting JRod). I would imagine we will need to know whether any of the wantaways are going before we can commit to replacements and back ups. There are a few other good young ones with the development squad so we wouldn't have much problem putting up a functional eleven. Time is getting short, but you cannot make rash decisions at this time. I have little doubt that RonKo has made clear what he needs, meeting those needs is a difficult task, but I am putting my trust in the board and the management to get it right in time.
I stand corrected! Totally forgot that big Vic was off on international duty.

Anyone seen the rumour coming from "Shoot" magazine?
They think RonKo is going after De Vrij.
http://shoot.co.uk/k

oeman-eyes-world-cup

-star/

Not convinced we'd fend off some of the competition, if it's true, but it would be nice!
Hmm - I think Saints will be third in line behind Lazio and Manch United for de Vrij........
[quote][p][bold]gr8saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.[/p][/quote]It isn't great, but three are missing, Vic, Spider and Gaston, four if you count Osvaldo (not counting JRod). I would imagine we will need to know whether any of the wantaways are going before we can commit to replacements and back ups. There are a few other good young ones with the development squad so we wouldn't have much problem putting up a functional eleven. Time is getting short, but you cannot make rash decisions at this time. I have little doubt that RonKo has made clear what he needs, meeting those needs is a difficult task, but I am putting my trust in the board and the management to get it right in time.[/p][/quote]I stand corrected! Totally forgot that big Vic was off on international duty. Anyone seen the rumour coming from "Shoot" magazine? They think RonKo is going after De Vrij. http://shoot.co.uk/k oeman-eyes-world-cup -star/ Not convinced we'd fend off some of the competition, if it's true, but it would be nice![/p][/quote]Hmm - I think Saints will be third in line behind Lazio and Manch United for de Vrij........ Jan28th1984
  • Score: 1

1:34pm Tue 15 Jul 14

GHamilton says...

In the computer room at home I have a Saints Squad photo 2009-2010 with Marcus Liebherr, Alan Pardew and Nicola Cortese; there are 26 outfield players in this photo........MORGAN SCHNEIDERLIN is the only one now remaining....for that alone he should be made captain.
In the computer room at home I have a Saints Squad photo 2009-2010 with Marcus Liebherr, Alan Pardew and Nicola Cortese; there are 26 outfield players in this photo........MORGAN SCHNEIDERLIN is the only one now remaining....for that alone he should be made captain. GHamilton
  • Score: 8

1:51pm Tue 15 Jul 14

steekeemcglue says...

SaintMatt97 wrote:
4-2-3-1, which we played last year, and 4-3-3 are not that different really. Obviously there is the back 4, and IMO we will still use the fullbacks goin forward a lot. Then the two more or less became a three last year with Spiderlin, cork and with big wan or JWP. Then we had SRL, Lielana and Jrod up top. So i really cant see that much of a difference between the 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1, other than it seems as if RoKo wants more going forward than last year, which is good news. Fingers crossed Gaston has a breakthrough season!!!
you need to watch some Feyenoord games from last season matey... I can almost guarantee that if RK plays 4-3-3 then the full backs won't be regularly overlapping and we will build from the back patiently without the headless chicken stuff. I am reading the signings of our two new lads and no hurry to replace Shaw as exactly that. Dutch kids are taught from an early age that you not not put the ball out wide in your own half to attack more often than you don't and I am expecting a very canny saints side with caution blended with flair. He would rather win a game 1-0 and then draw one 0-0 than win one 4-1 and loose one 1-4.... in my opinion
[quote][p][bold]SaintMatt97[/bold] wrote: 4-2-3-1, which we played last year, and 4-3-3 are not that different really. Obviously there is the back 4, and IMO we will still use the fullbacks goin forward a lot. Then the two more or less became a three last year with Spiderlin, cork and with big wan or JWP. Then we had SRL, Lielana and Jrod up top. So i really cant see that much of a difference between the 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1, other than it seems as if RoKo wants more going forward than last year, which is good news. Fingers crossed Gaston has a breakthrough season!!![/p][/quote]you need to watch some Feyenoord games from last season matey... I can almost guarantee that if RK plays 4-3-3 then the full backs won't be regularly overlapping and we will build from the back patiently without the headless chicken stuff. I am reading the signings of our two new lads and no hurry to replace Shaw as exactly that. Dutch kids are taught from an early age that you not not put the ball out wide in your own half to attack more often than you don't and I am expecting a very canny saints side with caution blended with flair. He would rather win a game 1-0 and then draw one 0-0 than win one 4-1 and loose one 1-4.... in my opinion steekeemcglue
  • Score: -1

1:54pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

GHamilton wrote:
In the computer room at home I have a Saints Squad photo 2009-2010 with Marcus Liebherr, Alan Pardew and Nicola Cortese; there are 26 outfield players in this photo........MORGAN SCHNEIDERLIN is the only one now remaining....for that alone he should be made captain.
Seed the Small has the same photo on his wall only swap Markus and Nicola for me and him. At the end of season dinner the club were so brasic they auctioned off being in the team photo! I got it for I think £400. Of course we were then taken over by St Markus and my pittance was no longer required but they graciously invited us non the less and gave us the jpegs and didn't charge us. Little did I know what lay ahead when I gave up my seat for Markus and the proper photo.
[quote][p][bold]GHamilton[/bold] wrote: In the computer room at home I have a Saints Squad photo 2009-2010 with Marcus Liebherr, Alan Pardew and Nicola Cortese; there are 26 outfield players in this photo........MORGAN SCHNEIDERLIN is the only one now remaining....for that alone he should be made captain.[/p][/quote]Seed the Small has the same photo on his wall only swap Markus and Nicola for me and him. At the end of season dinner the club were so brasic they auctioned off being in the team photo! I got it for I think £400. Of course we were then taken over by St Markus and my pittance was no longer required but they graciously invited us non the less and gave us the jpegs and didn't charge us. Little did I know what lay ahead when I gave up my seat for Markus and the proper photo. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 5

2:25pm Tue 15 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Jan28th1984 wrote:
gr8saint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.
It isn't great, but three are missing, Vic, Spider and Gaston, four if you count Osvaldo (not counting JRod). I would imagine we will need to know whether any of the wantaways are going before we can commit to replacements and back ups. There are a few other good young ones with the development squad so we wouldn't have much problem putting up a functional eleven. Time is getting short, but you cannot make rash decisions at this time. I have little doubt that RonKo has made clear what he needs, meeting those needs is a difficult task, but I am putting my trust in the board and the management to get it right in time.
I stand corrected! Totally forgot that big Vic was off on international duty.

Anyone seen the rumour coming from "Shoot" magazine?
They think RonKo is going after De Vrij.
http://shoot.co.uk/k


oeman-eyes-world-cup


-star/

Not convinced we'd fend off some of the competition, if it's true, but it would be nice!
Hmm - I think Saints will be third in line behind Lazio and Manch United for de Vrij........
I misheard something this morning, someone said that RonKo was eyeing up the fridge, this didn't surprise me at the time.
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gr8saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.[/p][/quote]It isn't great, but three are missing, Vic, Spider and Gaston, four if you count Osvaldo (not counting JRod). I would imagine we will need to know whether any of the wantaways are going before we can commit to replacements and back ups. There are a few other good young ones with the development squad so we wouldn't have much problem putting up a functional eleven. Time is getting short, but you cannot make rash decisions at this time. I have little doubt that RonKo has made clear what he needs, meeting those needs is a difficult task, but I am putting my trust in the board and the management to get it right in time.[/p][/quote]I stand corrected! Totally forgot that big Vic was off on international duty. Anyone seen the rumour coming from "Shoot" magazine? They think RonKo is going after De Vrij. http://shoot.co.uk/k oeman-eyes-world-cup -star/ Not convinced we'd fend off some of the competition, if it's true, but it would be nice![/p][/quote]Hmm - I think Saints will be third in line behind Lazio and Manch United for de Vrij........[/p][/quote]I misheard something this morning, someone said that RonKo was eyeing up the fridge, this didn't surprise me at the time. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

2:27pm Tue 15 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Saintade wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
Knackers wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.
Yeah Sammy I just had a look and it's pretty depleted and inexperienced.we need to get some players in to compliment the youngsters.what happened to all these top players les said were begging to join us?
Well said Knackers! I,ve been saying for weeks that we were going down the route of "playing the kids" I fear that the player buying is over now and what you see is what we,re going to get.
Dutch total football, play the kids...ring any bells?
Our kids are losing 3 0 to Newcastle, don't think they will supply the answer.
[quote][p][bold]Saintade[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.[/p][/quote]Yeah Sammy I just had a look and it's pretty depleted and inexperienced.we need to get some players in to compliment the youngsters.what happened to all these top players les said were begging to join us?[/p][/quote]Well said Knackers! I,ve been saying for weeks that we were going down the route of "playing the kids" I fear that the player buying is over now and what you see is what we,re going to get.[/p][/quote]Dutch total football, play the kids...ring any bells?[/p][/quote]Our kids are losing 3 0 to Newcastle, don't think they will supply the answer. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

2:53pm Tue 15 Jul 14

bathsaints says...

If the link to de vrijj is genuine and we have a chance of him actually signing and the news that Jay has been offered a 5 year deal is true then that strikes me as being positive and showing we do have ambition. Lets hope the manager is able to convince those rumoured to be wanting away to stay. I've been impressed with Big Ron so far, I know his record outside of holland as a manager has been mixed but he has conducted himself and as an air about him that Pottechino never really had and I think this bodes well. Even if it takes a season or 2 for us to be pushing top 6 again then I feel increasingly positive that there remains ambition and that we will surprise a few people who have written us off already. We do need a bigger squad but quality is definitely preferable to quantity...oh and for what it's worth I think Morgan or Cork for captain
If the link to de vrijj is genuine and we have a chance of him actually signing and the news that Jay has been offered a 5 year deal is true then that strikes me as being positive and showing we do have ambition. Lets hope the manager is able to convince those rumoured to be wanting away to stay. I've been impressed with Big Ron so far, I know his record outside of holland as a manager has been mixed but he has conducted himself and as an air about him that Pottechino never really had and I think this bodes well. Even if it takes a season or 2 for us to be pushing top 6 again then I feel increasingly positive that there remains ambition and that we will surprise a few people who have written us off already. We do need a bigger squad but quality is definitely preferable to quantity...oh and for what it's worth I think Morgan or Cork for captain bathsaints
  • Score: 5

3:04pm Tue 15 Jul 14

warrens 76 says...

Knackers wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.
Yeah Sammy I just had a look and it's pretty depleted and inexperienced.we need to get some players in to compliment the youngsters.what happened to all these top players les said were begging to join us?
Stop talking to yourself and get some stronger medication Sammy transmitted disease.
[quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.[/p][/quote]Yeah Sammy I just had a look and it's pretty depleted and inexperienced.we need to get some players in to compliment the youngsters.what happened to all these top players les said were begging to join us?[/p][/quote]Stop talking to yourself and get some stronger medication Sammy transmitted disease. warrens 76
  • Score: 3

3:17pm Tue 15 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Saintade wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
Knackers wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.
Yeah Sammy I just had a look and it's pretty depleted and inexperienced.we need to get some players in to compliment the youngsters.what happened to all these top players les said were begging to join us?
Well said Knackers! I,ve been saying for weeks that we were going down the route of "playing the kids" I fear that the player buying is over now and what you see is what we,re going to get.
Dutch total football, play the kids...ring any bells?
Our kids are losing 3 0 to Newcastle, don't think they will supply the answer.
Finished 2 - 4 Demkiv and Willard scored for us.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintade[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.[/p][/quote]Yeah Sammy I just had a look and it's pretty depleted and inexperienced.we need to get some players in to compliment the youngsters.what happened to all these top players les said were begging to join us?[/p][/quote]Well said Knackers! I,ve been saying for weeks that we were going down the route of "playing the kids" I fear that the player buying is over now and what you see is what we,re going to get.[/p][/quote]Dutch total football, play the kids...ring any bells?[/p][/quote]Our kids are losing 3 0 to Newcastle, don't think they will supply the answer.[/p][/quote]Finished 2 - 4 Demkiv and Willard scored for us. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 3

3:48pm Tue 15 Jul 14

notaclue says...

I think we have enough in midfield for 433 (vital Morgan stays), but we do need a few more additions as in wingers and left wing back plus another top keeper and CB.
Am I right in thinking that Koemans 433 uses wing backs?
I think we have enough in midfield for 433 (vital Morgan stays), but we do need a few more additions as in wingers and left wing back plus another top keeper and CB. Am I right in thinking that Koemans 433 uses wing backs? notaclue
  • Score: 0

4:10pm Tue 15 Jul 14

saintbobby says...

Confucious wrote:
4-3-3 has considerable merit, but switching from 4-2-3-1 to 4-3-3 is less risky if first using 4-5-1 as an interim followed by a short spell with 4-4-2. Then 4-5-2 can be reverted to if 4-3-3 doesn't work out - and the transition to 4-2-3-1 for certain tough away matches is a smaller adjustment to make from 4-5-2 than from 4-4-2 - or indeed the move to 3-5-3 when attack becomes essential late in matches.

The Dutch way is always well organised and disciplined and Dutch players take to this well because their school system, involving old-fashioned memorising by rota, enables them to count very well. If you watch a kids school match in the UK they are either all over the place eg in a 1-8-1 or an 0-2-8 or semi-frozen as they keep pausing to do the formation counting.

You also have to watch out with foreign players in the team because they can easily make the mistake of confusing two with to or too and four with 'for' eg instructions to switch to 4-2-5 may be taken to mean switching the back 4 to 5 or 4-4-2 to swap 4 for 2 or indeed going for 4-4-too.

I'm sure Ronald is aware of all this, but just in case I have e mailed Mrs Wilson who is passing on my advice.
Oh! Confucious, there you go again. Brilliant.

Does it take very long? You always give us a laugh. Lots more, please.
And my best wishes to Mrs. Wilson.

PS. My annoying spell-check insists there is only one 'O' in Confucious, but you must be right!
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: 4-3-3 has considerable merit, but switching from 4-2-3-1 to 4-3-3 is less risky if first using 4-5-1 as an interim followed by a short spell with 4-4-2. Then 4-5-2 can be reverted to if 4-3-3 doesn't work out - and the transition to 4-2-3-1 for certain tough away matches is a smaller adjustment to make from 4-5-2 than from 4-4-2 - or indeed the move to 3-5-3 when attack becomes essential late in matches. The Dutch way is always well organised and disciplined and Dutch players take to this well because their school system, involving old-fashioned memorising by rota, enables them to count very well. If you watch a kids school match in the UK they are either all over the place eg in a 1-8-1 or an 0-2-8 or semi-frozen as they keep pausing to do the formation counting. You also have to watch out with foreign players in the team because they can easily make the mistake of confusing two with to or too and four with 'for' eg instructions to switch to 4-2-5 may be taken to mean switching the back 4 to 5 or 4-4-2 to swap 4 for 2 or indeed going for 4-4-too. I'm sure Ronald is aware of all this, but just in case I have e mailed Mrs Wilson who is passing on my advice.[/p][/quote]Oh! Confucious, there you go again. Brilliant. Does it take very long? You always give us a laugh. Lots more, please. And my best wishes to Mrs. Wilson. PS. My annoying spell-check insists there is only one 'O' in Confucious, but you must be right! saintbobby
  • Score: 1

4:22pm Tue 15 Jul 14

bbb001 says...

I agree, the squad does look a bit thin at the moment but don't forget we have Wanyama, Ramirez, Pelle and Jrod to come in, so a new CB a left back and a versatile winger should give us the depth we need to give Ronko a good platform for his first season.

I for one would be happy for Saints to finish 7th or 8th this season. Lets be honest the teams that finished below us last season are hardly pulling up trees in the transfer market, add to that Evertons thin squad having to cope with the Europa League.

I think we should give the manager the remainder of the transfer window before we condemn Saints to a relegation battle.
I agree, the squad does look a bit thin at the moment but don't forget we have Wanyama, Ramirez, Pelle and Jrod to come in, so a new CB a left back and a versatile winger should give us the depth we need to give Ronko a good platform for his first season. I for one would be happy for Saints to finish 7th or 8th this season. Lets be honest the teams that finished below us last season are hardly pulling up trees in the transfer market, add to that Evertons thin squad having to cope with the Europa League. I think we should give the manager the remainder of the transfer window before we condemn Saints to a relegation battle. bbb001
  • Score: 2

4:43pm Tue 15 Jul 14

george chivers says...

truelysaints wrote:
Word of warning. Very few world class footballers have been good manager of top flight football teams. Lets hope RK is one of the exceptions.
As much as I will get panned for saying this. We are not a top flight team we are in the level below that, as is RK's former club which was very successful with him in charge. So perhaps we have the right manager!
[quote][p][bold]truelysaints[/bold] wrote: Word of warning. Very few world class footballers have been good manager of top flight football teams. Lets hope RK is one of the exceptions.[/p][/quote]As much as I will get panned for saying this. We are not a top flight team we are in the level below that, as is RK's former club which was very successful with him in charge. So perhaps we have the right manager! george chivers
  • Score: 1

4:49pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Buddy SFC says...

bathsaints wrote:
If the link to de vrijj is genuine and we have a chance of him actually signing and the news that Jay has been offered a 5 year deal is true then that strikes me as being positive and showing we do have ambition. Lets hope the manager is able to convince those rumoured to be wanting away to stay. I've been impressed with Big Ron so far, I know his record outside of holland as a manager has been mixed but he has conducted himself and as an air about him that Pottechino never really had and I think this bodes well. Even if it takes a season or 2 for us to be pushing top 6 again then I feel increasingly positive that there remains ambition and that we will surprise a few people who have written us off already. We do need a bigger squad but quality is definitely preferable to quantity...oh and for what it's worth I think Morgan or Cork for captain
Sky Sports 16:01pm - Southampton have offered striker Jay Rodriguez a new five-year contract, Sky sources understand.

Sign it JayRod !!!!
[quote][p][bold]bathsaints[/bold] wrote: If the link to de vrijj is genuine and we have a chance of him actually signing and the news that Jay has been offered a 5 year deal is true then that strikes me as being positive and showing we do have ambition. Lets hope the manager is able to convince those rumoured to be wanting away to stay. I've been impressed with Big Ron so far, I know his record outside of holland as a manager has been mixed but he has conducted himself and as an air about him that Pottechino never really had and I think this bodes well. Even if it takes a season or 2 for us to be pushing top 6 again then I feel increasingly positive that there remains ambition and that we will surprise a few people who have written us off already. We do need a bigger squad but quality is definitely preferable to quantity...oh and for what it's worth I think Morgan or Cork for captain[/p][/quote]Sky Sports 16:01pm - Southampton have offered striker Jay Rodriguez a new five-year contract, Sky sources understand. Sign it JayRod !!!! Buddy SFC
  • Score: 5

4:50pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
allsaintsnocurves wrote:
So the players in the running for the Captains armband:
Morgan
Davis
Lovren
Fonte

I think it will be between these players. Personally I would like to see Morgan get it. He hasn't disgraced himself this summer with all the talk of players leaving. He has been at the club a long time and come on leaps and bounds making the French national team. The manager will know if he wants the armband though.
Lovren would not be a popular choice with the fans but would indicate the managers ability of influence with the players in that he can smell a dressing room and who the players feel deserves the role.
Fonte we know would make a good captain as he is well regarded among the players.

I think Koeman could really get the best out of Ramirez this season and if that happens with Tadic we won't really miss Lallana or Lambert at all.

Imagine this team already:
Tadic Pelle Ramirez
Cork Morgan Davis
Target Lovren Fonte Clyne
Boruc

I'd say that doesn't look half as bad as I feared this summer!
Morgan for Captain as he is the only one likely to be first choice.

Assuming Tadic & Pelle prove to be as good as Adam & Ricky then we are only short of a good LB to be back to last seasons standard.

We must improve the defense so new FIRST CHOICE GK, CB & LB are required.

We MUST also score more goals so need sign another Striker who is BETTER than we have (including Pelle) is a priorty.

Then a pacy winger with a good cross as an option.

Get these in and we will be better next season other clubs are improving their squads so we also need to.

Get busy Les Reed you have 4 or 5 top players to sign yet. We can afford them & RonKo will attract them.

COYS
It would be great to see Morgan stay, sign a new contract and be made captain. If not him, then it's Jack Cork or Steven Davis for me.
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allsaintsnocurves[/bold] wrote: So the players in the running for the Captains armband: Morgan Davis Lovren Fonte I think it will be between these players. Personally I would like to see Morgan get it. He hasn't disgraced himself this summer with all the talk of players leaving. He has been at the club a long time and come on leaps and bounds making the French national team. The manager will know if he wants the armband though. Lovren would not be a popular choice with the fans but would indicate the managers ability of influence with the players in that he can smell a dressing room and who the players feel deserves the role. Fonte we know would make a good captain as he is well regarded among the players. I think Koeman could really get the best out of Ramirez this season and if that happens with Tadic we won't really miss Lallana or Lambert at all. Imagine this team already: Tadic Pelle Ramirez Cork Morgan Davis Target Lovren Fonte Clyne Boruc I'd say that doesn't look half as bad as I feared this summer![/p][/quote]Morgan for Captain as he is the only one likely to be first choice. Assuming Tadic & Pelle prove to be as good as Adam & Ricky then we are only short of a good LB to be back to last seasons standard. We must improve the defense so new FIRST CHOICE GK, CB & LB are required. We MUST also score more goals so need sign another Striker who is BETTER than we have (including Pelle) is a priorty. Then a pacy winger with a good cross as an option. Get these in and we will be better next season other clubs are improving their squads so we also need to. Get busy Les Reed you have 4 or 5 top players to sign yet. We can afford them & RonKo will attract them. COYS[/p][/quote]It would be great to see Morgan stay, sign a new contract and be made captain. If not him, then it's Jack Cork or Steven Davis for me. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 1

4:53pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

bbb001 wrote:
I agree, the squad does look a bit thin at the moment but don't forget we have Wanyama, Ramirez, Pelle and Jrod to come in, so a new CB a left back and a versatile winger should give us the depth we need to give Ronko a good platform for his first season.

I for one would be happy for Saints to finish 7th or 8th this season. Lets be honest the teams that finished below us last season are hardly pulling up trees in the transfer market, add to that Evertons thin squad having to cope with the Europa League.

I think we should give the manager the remainder of the transfer window before we condemn Saints to a relegation battle.
I agree with your points, but surely 'Saints' and 'relegation battle' are two concepts that no longer belong in the same sentence.
[quote][p][bold]bbb001[/bold] wrote: I agree, the squad does look a bit thin at the moment but don't forget we have Wanyama, Ramirez, Pelle and Jrod to come in, so a new CB a left back and a versatile winger should give us the depth we need to give Ronko a good platform for his first season. I for one would be happy for Saints to finish 7th or 8th this season. Lets be honest the teams that finished below us last season are hardly pulling up trees in the transfer market, add to that Evertons thin squad having to cope with the Europa League. I think we should give the manager the remainder of the transfer window before we condemn Saints to a relegation battle.[/p][/quote]I agree with your points, but surely 'Saints' and 'relegation battle' are two concepts that no longer belong in the same sentence. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 2

5:00pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Saintade wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
Knackers wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.
Yeah Sammy I just had a look and it's pretty depleted and inexperienced.we need to get some players in to compliment the youngsters.what happened to all these top players les said were begging to join us?
Well said Knackers! I,ve been saying for weeks that we were going down the route of "playing the kids" I fear that the player buying is over now and what you see is what we,re going to get.
Dutch total football, play the kids...ring any bells?
Our kids are losing 3 0 to Newcastle, don't think they will supply the answer.
Finished 2 - 4 Demkiv and Willard scored for us.
... and for anyone who wants to read the report, here's the link:

http://www.saintsfc.
co.uk/news/article/1
5072014-newcastle-u2
1s-4-2-saints-u21s-1
760501.aspx

I have to say, there are a lot of youngsters in that squad that I haven't heard of. It all bodes well for the future, doesn't it?

One day, literally every player in every squad in every division in England and Wales will have come through our academy. Of course, by then, we'll always keep the best 25 players for ourselves.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintade[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.[/p][/quote]Yeah Sammy I just had a look and it's pretty depleted and inexperienced.we need to get some players in to compliment the youngsters.what happened to all these top players les said were begging to join us?[/p][/quote]Well said Knackers! I,ve been saying for weeks that we were going down the route of "playing the kids" I fear that the player buying is over now and what you see is what we,re going to get.[/p][/quote]Dutch total football, play the kids...ring any bells?[/p][/quote]Our kids are losing 3 0 to Newcastle, don't think they will supply the answer.[/p][/quote]Finished 2 - 4 Demkiv and Willard scored for us.[/p][/quote]... and for anyone who wants to read the report, here's the link: http://www.saintsfc. co.uk/news/article/1 5072014-newcastle-u2 1s-4-2-saints-u21s-1 760501.aspx I have to say, there are a lot of youngsters in that squad that I haven't heard of. It all bodes well for the future, doesn't it? One day, literally every player in every squad in every division in England and Wales will have come through our academy. Of course, by then, we'll always keep the best 25 players for ourselves. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 4

5:13pm Tue 15 Jul 14

damoose says...

Fonte said in his interview we will still play the high-pressing game and not a lot will change in how we set up
Fonte said in his interview we will still play the high-pressing game and not a lot will change in how we set up damoose
  • Score: 1

5:14pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Confucious says...

saintbobby wrote:
Confucious wrote:
4-3-3 has considerable merit, but switching from 4-2-3-1 to 4-3-3 is less risky if first using 4-5-1 as an interim followed by a short spell with 4-4-2. Then 4-5-2 can be reverted to if 4-3-3 doesn't work out - and the transition to 4-2-3-1 for certain tough away matches is a smaller adjustment to make from 4-5-2 than from 4-4-2 - or indeed the move to 3-5-3 when attack becomes essential late in matches.

The Dutch way is always well organised and disciplined and Dutch players take to this well because their school system, involving old-fashioned memorising by rota, enables them to count very well. If you watch a kids school match in the UK they are either all over the place eg in a 1-8-1 or an 0-2-8 or semi-frozen as they keep pausing to do the formation counting.

You also have to watch out with foreign players in the team because they can easily make the mistake of confusing two with to or too and four with 'for' eg instructions to switch to 4-2-5 may be taken to mean switching the back 4 to 5 or 4-4-2 to swap 4 for 2 or indeed going for 4-4-too.

I'm sure Ronald is aware of all this, but just in case I have e mailed Mrs Wilson who is passing on my advice.
Oh! Confucious, there you go again. Brilliant.

Does it take very long? You always give us a laugh. Lots more, please.
And my best wishes to Mrs. Wilson.

PS. My annoying spell-check insists there is only one 'O' in Confucious, but you must be right!
Your spell check is correct if referring to the great wise one Confucius. I used Confucious, because some years ago, when I first posted, I was a somewhat confusing communicator. As I now communicate with the utmost clarity and precision, however, it does seem a rather inappropriate name. Still, the higher they get the fewer, I always say.
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: 4-3-3 has considerable merit, but switching from 4-2-3-1 to 4-3-3 is less risky if first using 4-5-1 as an interim followed by a short spell with 4-4-2. Then 4-5-2 can be reverted to if 4-3-3 doesn't work out - and the transition to 4-2-3-1 for certain tough away matches is a smaller adjustment to make from 4-5-2 than from 4-4-2 - or indeed the move to 3-5-3 when attack becomes essential late in matches. The Dutch way is always well organised and disciplined and Dutch players take to this well because their school system, involving old-fashioned memorising by rota, enables them to count very well. If you watch a kids school match in the UK they are either all over the place eg in a 1-8-1 or an 0-2-8 or semi-frozen as they keep pausing to do the formation counting. You also have to watch out with foreign players in the team because they can easily make the mistake of confusing two with to or too and four with 'for' eg instructions to switch to 4-2-5 may be taken to mean switching the back 4 to 5 or 4-4-2 to swap 4 for 2 or indeed going for 4-4-too. I'm sure Ronald is aware of all this, but just in case I have e mailed Mrs Wilson who is passing on my advice.[/p][/quote]Oh! Confucious, there you go again. Brilliant. Does it take very long? You always give us a laugh. Lots more, please. And my best wishes to Mrs. Wilson. PS. My annoying spell-check insists there is only one 'O' in Confucious, but you must be right![/p][/quote]Your spell check is correct if referring to the great wise one Confucius. I used Confucious, because some years ago, when I first posted, I was a somewhat confusing communicator. As I now communicate with the utmost clarity and precision, however, it does seem a rather inappropriate name. Still, the higher they get the fewer, I always say. Confucious
  • Score: 1

5:19pm Tue 15 Jul 14

right back in the bar says...

george chivers wrote:
truelysaints wrote:
Word of warning. Very few world class footballers have been good manager of top flight football teams. Lets hope RK is one of the exceptions.
As much as I will get panned for saying this. We are not a top flight team we are in the level below that, as is RK's former club which was very successful with him in charge. So perhaps we have the right manager!
Feyenoord are a famous club with a huge and absolutely fanatical support. They won the European cup in 1970 and uefa cup in 2002. They ought to have a stronger European profile given the history and goodwill at the club, and there was massive pressure on Koeman to get them into Champions league qualification rounds this season. I like to think we have a lot of kinship with clubs like Feyenoord; Athletic Bilbao are another; port cities with great football clubs and a strong identities. I am sure we have the right manager and he speaks English.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]truelysaints[/bold] wrote: Word of warning. Very few world class footballers have been good manager of top flight football teams. Lets hope RK is one of the exceptions.[/p][/quote]As much as I will get panned for saying this. We are not a top flight team we are in the level below that, as is RK's former club which was very successful with him in charge. So perhaps we have the right manager![/p][/quote]Feyenoord are a famous club with a huge and absolutely fanatical support. They won the European cup in 1970 and uefa cup in 2002. They ought to have a stronger European profile given the history and goodwill at the club, and there was massive pressure on Koeman to get them into Champions league qualification rounds this season. I like to think we have a lot of kinship with clubs like Feyenoord; Athletic Bilbao are another; port cities with great football clubs and a strong identities. I am sure we have the right manager and he speaks English. right back in the bar
  • Score: 6

5:24pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Confucious says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Saintade wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
Knackers wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.
Yeah Sammy I just had a look and it's pretty depleted and inexperienced.we need to get some players in to compliment the youngsters.what happened to all these top players les said were begging to join us?
Well said Knackers! I,ve been saying for weeks that we were going down the route of "playing the kids" I fear that the player buying is over now and what you see is what we,re going to get.
Dutch total football, play the kids...ring any bells?
Our kids are losing 3 0 to Newcastle, don't think they will supply the answer.
Finished 2 - 4 Demkiv and Willard scored for us.
... and for anyone who wants to read the report, here's the link:

http://www.saintsfc.

co.uk/news/article/1

5072014-newcastle-u2

1s-4-2-saints-u21s-1

760501.aspx

I have to say, there are a lot of youngsters in that squad that I haven't heard of. It all bodes well for the future, doesn't it?

One day, literally every player in every squad in every division in England and Wales will have come through our academy. Of course, by then, we'll always keep the best 25 players for ourselves.
Mark my words, within ten years it will be a legal requirement to have gender equality in the Premier League eg at least five female players fielded - and maybe a cross dresser in goal. I hope the academy is preparing us for this.

I have e mailed Ronald to encourage him to "make an early statement" now by signing Jenifer Aniston.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintade[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.[/p][/quote]Yeah Sammy I just had a look and it's pretty depleted and inexperienced.we need to get some players in to compliment the youngsters.what happened to all these top players les said were begging to join us?[/p][/quote]Well said Knackers! I,ve been saying for weeks that we were going down the route of "playing the kids" I fear that the player buying is over now and what you see is what we,re going to get.[/p][/quote]Dutch total football, play the kids...ring any bells?[/p][/quote]Our kids are losing 3 0 to Newcastle, don't think they will supply the answer.[/p][/quote]Finished 2 - 4 Demkiv and Willard scored for us.[/p][/quote]... and for anyone who wants to read the report, here's the link: http://www.saintsfc. co.uk/news/article/1 5072014-newcastle-u2 1s-4-2-saints-u21s-1 760501.aspx I have to say, there are a lot of youngsters in that squad that I haven't heard of. It all bodes well for the future, doesn't it? One day, literally every player in every squad in every division in England and Wales will have come through our academy. Of course, by then, we'll always keep the best 25 players for ourselves.[/p][/quote]Mark my words, within ten years it will be a legal requirement to have gender equality in the Premier League eg at least five female players fielded - and maybe a cross dresser in goal. I hope the academy is preparing us for this. I have e mailed Ronald to encourage him to "make an early statement" now by signing Jenifer Aniston. Confucious
  • Score: 5

5:37pm Tue 15 Jul 14

peregrine73 says...

bbb001 wrote:
I agree, the squad does look a bit thin at the moment but don't forget we have Wanyama, Ramirez, Pelle and Jrod to come in, so a new CB a left back and a versatile winger should give us the depth we need to give Ronko a good platform for his first season.

I for one would be happy for Saints to finish 7th or 8th this season. Lets be honest the teams that finished below us last season are hardly pulling up trees in the transfer market, add to that Evertons thin squad having to cope with the Europa League.

I think we should give the manager the remainder of the transfer window before we condemn Saints to a relegation battle.
Your right give him the chance to show his ambition,however there will not be any more money to spend. The owner has taken the return of the transfers money,after all that's business!. Ronko has to use what_he's got,which will include some inexperienced youngster's. Its going to be a long tough season,let's hope we are still in the premiership at the end of it.
[quote][p][bold]bbb001[/bold] wrote: I agree, the squad does look a bit thin at the moment but don't forget we have Wanyama, Ramirez, Pelle and Jrod to come in, so a new CB a left back and a versatile winger should give us the depth we need to give Ronko a good platform for his first season. I for one would be happy for Saints to finish 7th or 8th this season. Lets be honest the teams that finished below us last season are hardly pulling up trees in the transfer market, add to that Evertons thin squad having to cope with the Europa League. I think we should give the manager the remainder of the transfer window before we condemn Saints to a relegation battle.[/p][/quote]Your right give him the chance to show his ambition,however there will not be any more money to spend. The owner has taken the return of the transfers money,after all that's business!. Ronko has to use what_he's got,which will include some inexperienced youngster's. Its going to be a long tough season,let's hope we are still in the premiership at the end of it. peregrine73
  • Score: -2

5:41pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Confucious wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Saintade wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
Knackers wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.
Yeah Sammy I just had a look and it's pretty depleted and inexperienced.we need to get some players in to compliment the youngsters.what happened to all these top players les said were begging to join us?
Well said Knackers! I,ve been saying for weeks that we were going down the route of "playing the kids" I fear that the player buying is over now and what you see is what we,re going to get.
Dutch total football, play the kids...ring any bells?
Our kids are losing 3 0 to Newcastle, don't think they will supply the answer.
Finished 2 - 4 Demkiv and Willard scored for us.
... and for anyone who wants to read the report, here's the link:

http://www.saintsfc.


co.uk/news/article/1


5072014-newcastle-u2


1s-4-2-saints-u21s-1


760501.aspx

I have to say, there are a lot of youngsters in that squad that I haven't heard of. It all bodes well for the future, doesn't it?

One day, literally every player in every squad in every division in England and Wales will have come through our academy. Of course, by then, we'll always keep the best 25 players for ourselves.
Mark my words, within ten years it will be a legal requirement to have gender equality in the Premier League eg at least five female players fielded - and maybe a cross dresser in goal. I hope the academy is preparing us for this.

I have e mailed Ronald to encourage him to "make an early statement" now by signing Jenifer Aniston.
It would be nice to watch her score.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintade[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.[/p][/quote]Yeah Sammy I just had a look and it's pretty depleted and inexperienced.we need to get some players in to compliment the youngsters.what happened to all these top players les said were begging to join us?[/p][/quote]Well said Knackers! I,ve been saying for weeks that we were going down the route of "playing the kids" I fear that the player buying is over now and what you see is what we,re going to get.[/p][/quote]Dutch total football, play the kids...ring any bells?[/p][/quote]Our kids are losing 3 0 to Newcastle, don't think they will supply the answer.[/p][/quote]Finished 2 - 4 Demkiv and Willard scored for us.[/p][/quote]... and for anyone who wants to read the report, here's the link: http://www.saintsfc. co.uk/news/article/1 5072014-newcastle-u2 1s-4-2-saints-u21s-1 760501.aspx I have to say, there are a lot of youngsters in that squad that I haven't heard of. It all bodes well for the future, doesn't it? One day, literally every player in every squad in every division in England and Wales will have come through our academy. Of course, by then, we'll always keep the best 25 players for ourselves.[/p][/quote]Mark my words, within ten years it will be a legal requirement to have gender equality in the Premier League eg at least five female players fielded - and maybe a cross dresser in goal. I hope the academy is preparing us for this. I have e mailed Ronald to encourage him to "make an early statement" now by signing Jenifer Aniston.[/p][/quote]It would be nice to watch her score. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

5:54pm Tue 15 Jul 14

SaintSteve76 says...

Despite still being disappointed over the sales of key players, I believe we will still have a fantastic team for next season provided we sign a top left back, quality center back to provide competition, maybe a top young goalkeeper, and a quality striker depending on what happens with Osvaldo. If we do these things I believe with Koeman as manager we could have another great season.
Despite still being disappointed over the sales of key players, I believe we will still have a fantastic team for next season provided we sign a top left back, quality center back to provide competition, maybe a top young goalkeeper, and a quality striker depending on what happens with Osvaldo. If we do these things I believe with Koeman as manager we could have another great season. SaintSteve76
  • Score: 0

5:57pm Tue 15 Jul 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

look at the current AMBITION of everton - they want to sign 6 more players in the window and looking for good potential deals like CROATIAN Midfielder for £2.5Million with plenty of potential - and had a good World Cup.

We must also show the Ambition to get more Players in COYR+WS
look at the current AMBITION of everton - they want to sign 6 more players in the window and looking for good potential deals like CROATIAN Midfielder for £2.5Million with plenty of potential - and had a good World Cup. We must also show the Ambition to get more Players in COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 0

6:07pm Tue 15 Jul 14

echo1948 says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Saintade wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
Knackers wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.
Yeah Sammy I just had a look and it's pretty depleted and inexperienced.we need to get some players in to compliment the youngsters.what happened to all these top players les said were begging to join us?
Well said Knackers! I,ve been saying for weeks that we were going down the route of "playing the kids" I fear that the player buying is over now and what you see is what we,re going to get.
Dutch total football, play the kids...ring any bells?
Our kids are losing 3 0 to Newcastle, don't think they will supply the answer.
Finished 2 - 4 Demkiv and Willard scored for us.
... and for anyone who wants to read the report, here's the link:

http://www.saintsfc.



co.uk/news/article/1



5072014-newcastle-u2



1s-4-2-saints-u21s-1



760501.aspx

I have to say, there are a lot of youngsters in that squad that I haven't heard of. It all bodes well for the future, doesn't it?

One day, literally every player in every squad in every division in England and Wales will have come through our academy. Of course, by then, we'll always keep the best 25 players for ourselves.
Mark my words, within ten years it will be a legal requirement to have gender equality in the Premier League eg at least five female players fielded - and maybe a cross dresser in goal. I hope the academy is preparing us for this.

I have e mailed Ronald to encourage him to "make an early statement" now by signing Jenifer Aniston.
It would be nice to watch her score.
Imagine the fun in the showers after the match!
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintade[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.[/p][/quote]Yeah Sammy I just had a look and it's pretty depleted and inexperienced.we need to get some players in to compliment the youngsters.what happened to all these top players les said were begging to join us?[/p][/quote]Well said Knackers! I,ve been saying for weeks that we were going down the route of "playing the kids" I fear that the player buying is over now and what you see is what we,re going to get.[/p][/quote]Dutch total football, play the kids...ring any bells?[/p][/quote]Our kids are losing 3 0 to Newcastle, don't think they will supply the answer.[/p][/quote]Finished 2 - 4 Demkiv and Willard scored for us.[/p][/quote]... and for anyone who wants to read the report, here's the link: http://www.saintsfc. co.uk/news/article/1 5072014-newcastle-u2 1s-4-2-saints-u21s-1 760501.aspx I have to say, there are a lot of youngsters in that squad that I haven't heard of. It all bodes well for the future, doesn't it? One day, literally every player in every squad in every division in England and Wales will have come through our academy. Of course, by then, we'll always keep the best 25 players for ourselves.[/p][/quote]Mark my words, within ten years it will be a legal requirement to have gender equality in the Premier League eg at least five female players fielded - and maybe a cross dresser in goal. I hope the academy is preparing us for this. I have e mailed Ronald to encourage him to "make an early statement" now by signing Jenifer Aniston.[/p][/quote]It would be nice to watch her score.[/p][/quote]Imagine the fun in the showers after the match! echo1948
  • Score: 1

6:28pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Saintade wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
Knackers wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.
Yeah Sammy I just had a look and it's pretty depleted and inexperienced.we need to get some players in to compliment the youngsters.what happened to all these top players les said were begging to join us?
Well said Knackers! I,ve been saying for weeks that we were going down the route of "playing the kids" I fear that the player buying is over now and what you see is what we,re going to get.
Dutch total football, play the kids...ring any bells?
Our kids are losing 3 0 to Newcastle, don't think they will supply the answer.
Finished 2 - 4 Demkiv and Willard scored for us.
... and for anyone who wants to read the report, here's the link:

http://www.saintsfc.



co.uk/news/article/1



5072014-newcastle-u2



1s-4-2-saints-u21s-1



760501.aspx

I have to say, there are a lot of youngsters in that squad that I haven't heard of. It all bodes well for the future, doesn't it?

One day, literally every player in every squad in every division in England and Wales will have come through our academy. Of course, by then, we'll always keep the best 25 players for ourselves.
Mark my words, within ten years it will be a legal requirement to have gender equality in the Premier League eg at least five female players fielded - and maybe a cross dresser in goal. I hope the academy is preparing us for this.

I have e mailed Ronald to encourage him to "make an early statement" now by signing Jenifer Aniston.
It would be nice to watch her score.
Confucious (or Confucius), maybe you should contact Mrs Wilson and tell her to tell Ron that, instead of going 4-4-3, he should revert to a 36-24-36 formation with 2 big ones up front.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintade[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.[/p][/quote]Yeah Sammy I just had a look and it's pretty depleted and inexperienced.we need to get some players in to compliment the youngsters.what happened to all these top players les said were begging to join us?[/p][/quote]Well said Knackers! I,ve been saying for weeks that we were going down the route of "playing the kids" I fear that the player buying is over now and what you see is what we,re going to get.[/p][/quote]Dutch total football, play the kids...ring any bells?[/p][/quote]Our kids are losing 3 0 to Newcastle, don't think they will supply the answer.[/p][/quote]Finished 2 - 4 Demkiv and Willard scored for us.[/p][/quote]... and for anyone who wants to read the report, here's the link: http://www.saintsfc. co.uk/news/article/1 5072014-newcastle-u2 1s-4-2-saints-u21s-1 760501.aspx I have to say, there are a lot of youngsters in that squad that I haven't heard of. It all bodes well for the future, doesn't it? One day, literally every player in every squad in every division in England and Wales will have come through our academy. Of course, by then, we'll always keep the best 25 players for ourselves.[/p][/quote]Mark my words, within ten years it will be a legal requirement to have gender equality in the Premier League eg at least five female players fielded - and maybe a cross dresser in goal. I hope the academy is preparing us for this. I have e mailed Ronald to encourage him to "make an early statement" now by signing Jenifer Aniston.[/p][/quote]It would be nice to watch her score.[/p][/quote]Confucious (or Confucius), maybe you should contact Mrs Wilson and tell her to tell Ron that, instead of going 4-4-3, he should revert to a 36-24-36 formation with 2 big ones up front. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 5

6:31pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

echo1948 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Saintade wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
Knackers wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.
Yeah Sammy I just had a look and it's pretty depleted and inexperienced.we need to get some players in to compliment the youngsters.what happened to all these top players les said were begging to join us?
Well said Knackers! I,ve been saying for weeks that we were going down the route of "playing the kids" I fear that the player buying is over now and what you see is what we,re going to get.
Dutch total football, play the kids...ring any bells?
Our kids are losing 3 0 to Newcastle, don't think they will supply the answer.
Finished 2 - 4 Demkiv and Willard scored for us.
... and for anyone who wants to read the report, here's the link:

http://www.saintsfc.




co.uk/news/article/1




5072014-newcastle-u2




1s-4-2-saints-u21s-1




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I have to say, there are a lot of youngsters in that squad that I haven't heard of. It all bodes well for the future, doesn't it?

One day, literally every player in every squad in every division in England and Wales will have come through our academy. Of course, by then, we'll always keep the best 25 players for ourselves.
Mark my words, within ten years it will be a legal requirement to have gender equality in the Premier League eg at least five female players fielded - and maybe a cross dresser in goal. I hope the academy is preparing us for this.

I have e mailed Ronald to encourage him to "make an early statement" now by signing Jenifer Aniston.
It would be nice to watch her score.
Imagine the fun in the showers after the match!
Given that she'll need help adjusting after what's sure to be a prolonged transfer saga, I wouldn't mind helping her 'bed in', so to speak.
[quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintade[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Just looked at our squad in Belgium and it's thin and weak.a lot are kids and are not ready.scary and we will struggle this year.we need to add at least 4 experienced pl players.really we would struggle to put out a team at the moment.pull your finger out les and sign some quality.[/p][/quote]Yeah Sammy I just had a look and it's pretty depleted and inexperienced.we need to get some players in to compliment the youngsters.what happened to all these top players les said were begging to join us?[/p][/quote]Well said Knackers! I,ve been saying for weeks that we were going down the route of "playing the kids" I fear that the player buying is over now and what you see is what we,re going to get.[/p][/quote]Dutch total football, play the kids...ring any bells?[/p][/quote]Our kids are losing 3 0 to Newcastle, don't think they will supply the answer.[/p][/quote]Finished 2 - 4 Demkiv and Willard scored for us.[/p][/quote]... and for anyone who wants to read the report, here's the link: http://www.saintsfc. co.uk/news/article/1 5072014-newcastle-u2 1s-4-2-saints-u21s-1 760501.aspx I have to say, there are a lot of youngsters in that squad that I haven't heard of. It all bodes well for the future, doesn't it? One day, literally every player in every squad in every division in England and Wales will have come through our academy. Of course, by then, we'll always keep the best 25 players for ourselves.[/p][/quote]Mark my words, within ten years it will be a legal requirement to have gender equality in the Premier League eg at least five female players fielded - and maybe a cross dresser in goal. I hope the academy is preparing us for this. I have e mailed Ronald to encourage him to "make an early statement" now by signing Jenifer Aniston.[/p][/quote]It would be nice to watch her score.[/p][/quote]Imagine the fun in the showers after the match![/p][/quote]Given that she'll need help adjusting after what's sure to be a prolonged transfer saga, I wouldn't mind helping her 'bed in', so to speak. Strasbourg Saint
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6:39pm Tue 15 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Saint 1 up McQueen

Davis, Chambers, Fonte, Turnbull, Clyne, Cork, Reed, Ward-Prowse, Sinclair, McQueen, Mayuka
Saint 1 up McQueen Davis, Chambers, Fonte, Turnbull, Clyne, Cork, Reed, Ward-Prowse, Sinclair, McQueen, Mayuka OSPREYSAINT
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6:43pm Tue 15 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Saints 2 0 Chambers 44
Saints 2 0 Chambers 44 OSPREYSAINT
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6:48pm Tue 15 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

2 0 HT expect changes for the 2nd half
2 0 HT expect changes for the 2nd half OSPREYSAINT
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6:59pm Tue 15 Jul 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

Had a rethink on a previous post ... long may fat sam play unattractive football ... Good Luck to Ralph "Freddy" Krueger who has stepped in at SFC at a difficult time and a peiod of change and transition.

Stability and Top Premiership Football required and a Wembley Appearance in the FA Cup.

Mid Table Mediocracy is not an Option. COYR+WS

FIGHT AND WIN

None of this lardy fat sam sh1t ..... KING RON KOEMAN will play attractive football and an ATTACKING BRAND OF FOOTBALL.

Keep the MOMENTUM going LES and add to our wafer thin Squad ....

Talked to a Saints Fan in the BRIDGE - her idea was to get a SAINTS FOOTBALL ANNUAL underway .... the impression is that Ralph "FREDDY" Krueger seems to have had the stuffing knocked oiut of him with all the PR gaffes and content with inactivity - not knowing what to tackle first.

DON'T BE FOOLED into thinking the move with the WANTAWAY PLAYERS means we have some allegiance to "liverpooh" - they are and ALWAYS WILL BE scouse scum. COYR+WS

WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON
Had a rethink on a previous post ... long may fat sam play unattractive football ... Good Luck to Ralph "Freddy" Krueger who has stepped in at SFC at a difficult time and a peiod of change and transition. Stability and Top Premiership Football required and a Wembley Appearance in the FA Cup. Mid Table Mediocracy is not an Option. COYR+WS FIGHT AND WIN None of this lardy fat sam sh1t ..... KING RON KOEMAN will play attractive football and an ATTACKING BRAND OF FOOTBALL. Keep the MOMENTUM going LES and add to our wafer thin Squad .... Talked to a Saints Fan in the BRIDGE - her idea was to get a SAINTS FOOTBALL ANNUAL underway .... the impression is that Ralph "FREDDY" Krueger seems to have had the stuffing knocked oiut of him with all the PR gaffes and content with inactivity - not knowing what to tackle first. DON'T BE FOOLED into thinking the move with the WANTAWAY PLAYERS means we have some allegiance to "liverpooh" - they are and ALWAYS WILL BE scouse scum. COYR+WS WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
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7:02pm Tue 15 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

2nd half XI

Gazzaniga, McCarthy, Stephens, Hooiveld, Targett, Flannigan, Steven Davis, Tadić, Isgrove, Sharp and Gallagher.
2nd half XI Gazzaniga, McCarthy, Stephens, Hooiveld, Targett, Flannigan, Steven Davis, Tadić, Isgrove, Sharp and Gallagher. OSPREYSAINT
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7:11pm Tue 15 Jul 14

midlandsaint says...

Any streams or radio broadcasts for the friendly?
Any streams or radio broadcasts for the friendly? midlandsaint
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7:13pm Tue 15 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

midlandsaint wrote:
Any streams or radio broadcasts for the friendly?
No as I said earlier, highlights will be shown later, follow it on Twitter #saintsfc
[quote][p][bold]midlandsaint[/bold] wrote: Any streams or radio broadcasts for the friendly?[/p][/quote]No as I said earlier, highlights will be shown later, follow it on Twitter #saintsfc OSPREYSAINT
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7:16pm Tue 15 Jul 14

midlandsaint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
midlandsaint wrote:
Any streams or radio broadcasts for the friendly?
No as I said earlier, highlights will be shown later, follow it on Twitter #saintsfc
Cheers Osprey
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]midlandsaint[/bold] wrote: Any streams or radio broadcasts for the friendly?[/p][/quote]No as I said earlier, highlights will be shown later, follow it on Twitter #saintsfc[/p][/quote]Cheers Osprey midlandsaint
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7:20pm Tue 15 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Was 3 0 Sharp penalty, now 4 0 Steve Davis
Was 3 0 Sharp penalty, now 4 0 Steve Davis OSPREYSAINT
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7:26pm Tue 15 Jul 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

GOOD POST from Saintade.

Quote :

Osvaldo? Mayuka? Gallagher? Seriously? Did you not go to any games last season? Do you really think these ineffective players (they were ALL totally ineffective when they played last season) will suddenly become the best players in the Prem? Rose-tinted spectacles my friend!! Wish I had your optimism!

REPLY ..

... I did see Osvaldo's goal against Citeh and another one with an assist from Lambert ... Gallagher had chances but did not quite cut the mustard and get the GOALS !!

REALLY DO NEED TO INVEST IN COVER FOR TOP STRIKER
GOOD POST from Saintade. Quote : Osvaldo? Mayuka? Gallagher? Seriously? Did you not go to any games last season? Do you really think these ineffective players (they were ALL totally ineffective when they played last season) will suddenly become the best players in the Prem? Rose-tinted spectacles my friend!! Wish I had your optimism! REPLY .. ... I did see Osvaldo's goal against Citeh and another one with an assist from Lambert ... Gallagher had chances but did not quite cut the mustard and get the GOALS !! REALLY DO NEED TO INVEST IN COVER FOR TOP STRIKER The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
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7:35pm Tue 15 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Scouse have bought Markovic and are sorting out some loose change for Billy.
Scouse have bought Markovic and are sorting out some loose change for Billy. OSPREYSAINT
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7:38pm Tue 15 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Stars captain, Victor Wanyama, received his first international red card as visiting Burundi Swallows held Kenya to a goalless draw in a friendly at Nairobi’s Nyayo National Stadium Tuesday.
Stars captain, Victor Wanyama, received his first international red card as visiting Burundi Swallows held Kenya to a goalless draw in a friendly at Nairobi’s Nyayo National Stadium Tuesday. OSPREYSAINT
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7:50pm Tue 15 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

4 - 0 Full Time. OK not Champions League opposition, but a win is a win and a good run out for the lads.
4 - 0 Full Time. OK not Champions League opposition, but a win is a win and a good run out for the lads. OSPREYSAINT
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8:14pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Poole Tom says...

I am optimistic that we will have a decent season under Koeman but looking at the current squad it`s hard to imagine that we will finish in the top 10. Our new signings may do very well and Ramirez may finally start to produce the goods. On the other hand they may not. Realistically the new boys may struggle to score goals in the Premier League, much like the new forwards did at Norwich last season, and so far Ramirez has flattered to deceive. Consequently I`d be pleasantly surprised if they managed to score anything like the the number of goals that Rickie, Adam and J Rod scored last season before his unfortunate injury. So if J Rod does`nt get fit until January we may have a season like WBA have just had after finishing in eighth the year before, unless we buy some proven Premiership quality to improve the starting eleven.
I am optimistic that we will have a decent season under Koeman but looking at the current squad it`s hard to imagine that we will finish in the top 10. Our new signings may do very well and Ramirez may finally start to produce the goods. On the other hand they may not. Realistically the new boys may struggle to score goals in the Premier League, much like the new forwards did at Norwich last season, and so far Ramirez has flattered to deceive. Consequently I`d be pleasantly surprised if they managed to score anything like the the number of goals that Rickie, Adam and J Rod scored last season before his unfortunate injury. So if J Rod does`nt get fit until January we may have a season like WBA have just had after finishing in eighth the year before, unless we buy some proven Premiership quality to improve the starting eleven. Poole Tom
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