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    SaintJD wrote:
    redandy10 wrote:
    You've got to love the Happy Clappers. In my two years of posting I have NEVER seen them CORRECT about ANYTHING. It beggars belief!!!

    They believed that aiming for European qualification within two years of being promoted was CRAZY. We finished 8th this past season!!!
    They didn't like NC.
    They wanted Adkins to stay. "What good would a new manager do?" I'd say about ten positions in the league!
    They found no problems with the slow, aimless way we played under Nigel.
    They didn't want Poch.
    They believed that we would KEEP Poch & all the lads because they were under contract & LES REED SAID!!! (Who could forget the classic, "Are you calling Les Reed a liar?".)
    They believe that other fans are being over-dramatic in their response to the events of the last week.

    It's an endless list of sticking their heads in the sand, yet they still spout their guff on here, even though their previous record is such a joke.

    They haven't been right about ONE THING. On the one hand it's UNBELIEVABLE and on the other it's HYSTERICALLY FUNNY!

    I'm sorry but I don't buy for a second that fans could be so oblivious to reality. They are definitely on the WIND-UP, and to be fair to them they're quite good at it!!!
    And it goes without saying that osprey & his alter egos account for half of them!
    I think you're a bit wide of the mark on this post Redandy and your memory is being a bit selective to fit your argument.

    As far as I'm aware, the whole stereotype of a happyclapper is that they support the club blindly whatever with no negativity about anything.

    So, as I remember it, they supported Nicola Cortese, supported Nigel despite early poor results, supported him when he got sacked, but decided to give the new guy a chance, didn't moan when perhaps our style of play didn't get us the results our play deserved, and gave the board the benefit of the doubt when Cortese left the club.

    I always thought the happyclappers supported Cortese - or indeed whoever was in charge of the club?

    Yeah, I guess they always wanted to believe the best when rumours of Nigel leaving, Cortese going and Mo Po leaving surfaced, but that's just a side effect of the positivity. I don't remember anyone, positive, negative or in between thinking Poch was a good appointment at the time.

    I did hope for the best on Mo Po staying, but did feel wary that they hadn't acted during the season.

    I think at the end of the day you judge people on actions and, at the moment, the board aren't filling me with optimism.

    I've given them the benefit of the doubt, but that changed with the timing of the Mo Po departure, Krueger interview and Lambert sale.

    I'd still like to feel optimistic that they aren't as bad as I think they are and can show some strength in keeping Adam and appointing a good manager, but I'm feeling pretty pessimistic based on what we've seen so far.
    Please don't be downhearted, SaintJD. I think most of the current negativity about Saints is being caused by all the current, persistently negative fiction in the media.

    I might be a "Happy Clapper," but I never blindly support anything to do with Saints. My optimism is borne out of five years of ongoing, remarkable improvement of Saints, thanks to Saint Markus and Katharina and many other very capable past and present employees of the club.

    Right now it is the close season and there is obviously much going on at Southampton FC in preparation for next season. In common with most other football clubs, Saints have released some players and will employ some new players. Rickie Lambert wanted to go and the club decided he could go. It was a mutual decision. Mauricio Pochettino decided to leave, along with his coaches. These things are not so bad as the doom mongers probably think.

    Soon Saints should appoint a new manager and coaching team and start acquiring some new, good players, all with the aim of helping the club continue its remarkable rise towards the top in this country. Saints have told us only positive words and I trust those words, but not blindly. I think we should wait and see who becomes Saints' new manager and which new players will be acquired. I am interested in only the facts, not the media's persistent bull manure about Saints. There is so far no reason for smelling all the negative bull manure, when just around the corner there might be a whole bunch of roses to smell.

    I think we should have patience and remain as positive as during the last five years. I remain optimistic!!!"
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Saints stall Reds over Lallana

Saints stall Reds over Lallana

Adam Lallana

Adam Lallana

First published in Football

Saints are continuing to play hardball with Liverpool over a deal for Adam Lallana.

The Reds, who are due to complete the capture of Rickie Lambert today, also want to land Lallana before the World Cup begins, writes GORDON SIMPSON.

Liverpool lodged a final bid of £25m on Friday night and informed Saints that the transfer must be completed ahead of this summer’s tournament, or else they will turn their attention elsewhere.

However, despite that ultimatum, which the Anfield club also issued over a deal for Lambert, Saints have so far remained unmoved.

As chairman Ralph Krueger revealed last week, they want to hold off on all transfer dealings until a replacement for Mauricio Pochettino is appointed.

They broke from that policy after Liverpool’s bid for Lambert, believing that it could do more harm than good to prevent the striker making a dream move to his boyhood club.

However, they feel in a stronger position when it comes to Lallana, as is the case in regards to Luke Shaw, with Manchester United making their own attempts to push through a transfer for the teenage left-back this week.

Saints have so far ignored Liverpool’s offer and, with Lallana and the rest of the England squad having landed in Miami last night for a pre-World Cup camp, time is running out for the Reds to strike a deal.

Liverpool, who also want to sign Dejan Lovren this summer, are willing to send staff to Florida this week to conduct a medical, with the national team manager, Roy Hodgson, having said he will allow that to happen during free time if necessary.

However, a deal would need to be agreed with Saints first, and if that does not happen by the end of the week then there is no prospect of it being done before the World Cup is over.

Lallana has previously said that it “makes no difference” to him whether his future is sorted out before or after the tournament, although he is understood to be interested in exploring the possibility of a move to Anfield.

But Liverpool are adamant that they will not offer any more for the player, and although they may be bluffing about switching their attention to other targets, there is a distinct possibility they may chose to move on if this week proves fruitless for them.

If Lallana is desperate to go, he could attempt to force his way out, but, given his affinity to Saints, that would be a big call for him to make.

One Saints player who is definitely leaving before the World Cup is Lambert.

The 32-year-old should be confirmed as a Liverpool player today, having passed a medical on Saturday morning, with Saints receiving up to £5m for him, plus add-ons.

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