No need to panic about players leaving Southampton says Matt Le Tissier

Basingstoke Gazette: Matt Le Tissier Matt Le Tissier

THERE’S no need for anyone to panic, according to Saints legend Matt Le Tissier.

Fans may be reeling from the imminent departure of Rickie Lambert just days after manager Mauricio Pochettino walked out of the club, but once a new boss comes in, Le Tissier believes things will start to look a lot more positive.

Speaking to The Daily Echo, the man voted by fans as Saints’ greatest ever player was staying calm about what is happening at St Mary’s and thinks fans should be too.

He said: “It’s paramount we get a manager in and then we can start hearing about players coming in rather than going out. “At the moment it does feel a bit like hit, after hit, after hit, but let’s not forget, it is only one player we’ve lost.”

“Once we get someone in as manager, it should calm down. “A new manager can come in and start looking at bringing players in and that will allay people’s fears.”

Some Saints fans are worried that losing Lambert has shown the board to be naive but Le Tissier does not see what all the fuss is about.

“Players leave for good money all the time and then you go out and sign new ones. That’s what happens, so I don’t see why people are so worried.”

With big-money offers having been tabled for stars such as Adam Lallana and Luke Shaw, Saints will have to make some difficult choices in the coming weeks – but that is the same as at any club, says the ex-England international.

He added: “Really, 99.5 per cent of clubs have to sell players when a bid is made for big money.”

Saints are believed to have felt their hand was forced in the Lambert transfer, due to the player’s emotional connection with Liverpool. Saints didn’t want to run the risk of forcing him to stay with his heart clearly somewhere else.

Doing so could have resulted in the club having to accept a lower fee later in the summer, if divisions appeared in the relationship between Lambert and the club.

However, once a manager is appointed, Le Tissier is certain fears about the future of the club will recede, as it will enable them to focus on making moves to bring new faces in – and the former number seven is in no doubt what the new boss will need to do.

“What I think they need to do when they get a new manager in is get someone who will score goals, as at the moment they don’t really have anyone left to do that,” he said. “If you don’t have someone scoring goals then that means relegation, so that is of paramount importance for whoever the new manager is, when he comes in.

“Then he has try and keep hold of the rest of the players. From there, I’d like to see them bring in a new central defender and a new pacey wideman.”

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6:43am Sat 31 May 14

Shareholder says...

Well said Matt! Some people need to get real. Firstly you can't blame the Board for Pochettino leaving; it's quite clear he was determined to leave, probably sinceJanuary. He basically did the dirty on the club, the players and is fans. Secondly every player had a right to be told when an official bid for them is ttabled; under the circumstances it is not surprising that Lambert decided he wanted to go to Liverpool. As for Lallana what if he too had decided to leave? Had it occurred to anyone that might be the case? Is that the board's fault? These days it's hard for ANY club to stop a player if he wants to leave. Arsenal couldn't stop Fabregas, United couldn't stop Ronaldo and likewise Bale at Spurs. In those cases you bite the bullet and get the most you can. That's What's happened with Lambert and it may well be the case with Lallana. But I don't see people chucking stones at them. And people demanding the Board be sacked are living on another planet. Only the owner can do that and she's hardly likely to. And so far there's no evidence they warrant it. They haven't sold anyone and have said time and again Europe remains the goal. And if the likes of Koeman and Yakin want to come then they must be doing something right. These are managers with better track records than Pochettino so we can look forward to more positive moves in the next few weeks. So let's ol follow Matt's example, stay calm and back the club. And if any player demands to leave let's blame them and their greedy agents as much as anyone else. Personally I'm looking forward to the coming season. And I'd much rather be where we are than where we were before the Liebherrs came in - let's just remember that.
Well said Matt! Some people need to get real. Firstly you can't blame the Board for Pochettino leaving; it's quite clear he was determined to leave, probably sinceJanuary. He basically did the dirty on the club, the players and is fans. Secondly every player had a right to be told when an official bid for them is ttabled; under the circumstances it is not surprising that Lambert decided he wanted to go to Liverpool. As for Lallana what if he too had decided to leave? Had it occurred to anyone that might be the case? Is that the board's fault? These days it's hard for ANY club to stop a player if he wants to leave. Arsenal couldn't stop Fabregas, United couldn't stop Ronaldo and likewise Bale at Spurs. In those cases you bite the bullet and get the most you can. That's What's happened with Lambert and it may well be the case with Lallana. But I don't see people chucking stones at them. And people demanding the Board be sacked are living on another planet. Only the owner can do that and she's hardly likely to. And so far there's no evidence they warrant it. They haven't sold anyone and have said time and again Europe remains the goal. And if the likes of Koeman and Yakin want to come then they must be doing something right. These are managers with better track records than Pochettino so we can look forward to more positive moves in the next few weeks. So let's ol follow Matt's example, stay calm and back the club. And if any player demands to leave let's blame them and their greedy agents as much as anyone else. Personally I'm looking forward to the coming season. And I'd much rather be where we are than where we were before the Liebherrs came in - let's just remember that. Shareholder
  • Score: 159

6:54am Sat 31 May 14

pitbull says...

Well said Matt and Shareholder.

And well said the Echo for stating that the previous manager "walked out on Southampton", as did the previous chairman.
Well said Matt and Shareholder. And well said the Echo for stating that the previous manager "walked out on Southampton", as did the previous chairman. pitbull
  • Score: 75

7:15am Sat 31 May 14

DisplacedFan says...

Looking forward to giving MP a Saints welcome when Spurs come to visit!
Looking forward to giving MP a Saints welcome when Spurs come to visit! DisplacedFan
  • Score: 41

7:26am Sat 31 May 14

Sammy2sheds says...

The trouble is Ralph and les haven't got a clue
Matts plan is get a manager to stop players leaving then sign a striker,quite a simple plan.lets see if the board can follow it.
For the board not to see pochs exit coming is falling asleep at the wheel in my book.reaction management,wait for it to happen then try and do something about it.say what you like about cortese but he would never have fallen for pochs stalling game.he would have had his replacement ready to go.is Ralph back from watching the first team? I mean u19s.
If he is then there is a lot of "exciting challenges" waiting for him.
The trouble is Ralph and les haven't got a clue Matts plan is get a manager to stop players leaving then sign a striker,quite a simple plan.lets see if the board can follow it. For the board not to see pochs exit coming is falling asleep at the wheel in my book.reaction management,wait for it to happen then try and do something about it.say what you like about cortese but he would never have fallen for pochs stalling game.he would have had his replacement ready to go.is Ralph back from watching the first team? I mean u19s. If he is then there is a lot of "exciting challenges" waiting for him. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: -54

7:32am Sat 31 May 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

RESPECT TO MATT FOR HIS LOYALTY.

The Honorary title should be his. Rickie is stripped of SRL and although a favourite of mine - once he crossed the dotted line to join the liverpoooooool scum - he has committed his future to the bench

He sits on the bench - he sits on the bench ch
All Ricke Lambert does is sit on the bench.

If we had got a Top striker - Rickie was also part of our plan to progress.

IF SHAW OR LALLANA GO - There will be Posters in the Southampton Pubs ...

WANTED - **** OR ALIVE
LES REED + RALPH KRUEGER
GUILTY OF ASSET STRIPPING SFC.
SACK THE BOARD.

Judas (The Argy) stirred it all up - and got up and left. We know what we are all hoping for with the Spuds and 6 months down the line.

The fuss at the moment Matt is that we are not just asset stripping Players - but GOALS.

Lost Punch - Loss of Lambert - if you lose Lallana - there are no goals left in this Team. (Jrod injured)

ADAM was only AVERAGE last night and did not shine for ENGLAND - saw his clattering tackles - .

LUKE SHAW - the pressure is getting to the young man - with his head cold - at least he was able to keep the bench warm.

LOST ONE LION (rickie) - NEED A SAINTS PLAYER TO STEP UP TO THE SENIOR TEAM TO GET OUR 3 LIONS BACK. (and lose no more players)
RESPECT TO MATT FOR HIS LOYALTY. The Honorary title should be his. Rickie is stripped of SRL and although a favourite of mine - once he crossed the dotted line to join the liverpoooooool scum - he has committed his future to the bench He sits on the bench - he sits on the bench ch All Ricke Lambert does is sit on the bench. If we had got a Top striker - Rickie was also part of our plan to progress. IF SHAW OR LALLANA GO - There will be Posters in the Southampton Pubs ... WANTED - **** OR ALIVE LES REED + RALPH KRUEGER GUILTY OF ASSET STRIPPING SFC. SACK THE BOARD. Judas (The Argy) stirred it all up - and got up and left. We know what we are all hoping for with the Spuds and 6 months down the line. The fuss at the moment Matt is that we are not just asset stripping Players - but GOALS. Lost Punch - Loss of Lambert - if you lose Lallana - there are no goals left in this Team. (Jrod injured) ADAM was only AVERAGE last night and did not shine for ENGLAND - saw his clattering tackles - . LUKE SHAW - the pressure is getting to the young man - with his head cold - at least he was able to keep the bench warm. LOST ONE LION (rickie) - NEED A SAINTS PLAYER TO STEP UP TO THE SENIOR TEAM TO GET OUR 3 LIONS BACK. (and lose no more players) The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: -29

7:37am Sat 31 May 14

JohnItaly says...

Whilst not arguing with anything that Matt has said the one thing that concerns me is that the Board appear to have taken no positive steps towards replacing Pochettino prior to him leaving when it must have been obvious he was going to leave. His reluctance to beginning negotiations over a new contract was a good clue. It would be interesting to know how long the new contract "was on the table". One can only make assumptions it must have been a few weeks this simply endorsing the notion he had no intention of remaining if the right offer came along, the Spurs situation being well publicised as an ideal opportunity. If the announcement of a new manager / coach had been made within a few days it would have allayed the fears and concerns of the fans and no doubt the players as well as showing the Board up in a very positive light. The longer the delay of the appointment of Pochettino's replacement the more unsettle the situation will become with potential fallout that it may be difficult to recover from.
Whilst not arguing with anything that Matt has said the one thing that concerns me is that the Board appear to have taken no positive steps towards replacing Pochettino prior to him leaving when it must have been obvious he was going to leave. His reluctance to beginning negotiations over a new contract was a good clue. It would be interesting to know how long the new contract "was on the table". One can only make assumptions it must have been a few weeks this simply endorsing the notion he had no intention of remaining if the right offer came along, the Spurs situation being well publicised as an ideal opportunity. If the announcement of a new manager / coach had been made within a few days it would have allayed the fears and concerns of the fans and no doubt the players as well as showing the Board up in a very positive light. The longer the delay of the appointment of Pochettino's replacement the more unsettle the situation will become with potential fallout that it may be difficult to recover from. JohnItaly
  • Score: -3

7:40am Sat 31 May 14

Buddy SFC says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
The trouble is Ralph and les haven't got a clue
Matts plan is get a manager to stop players leaving then sign a striker,quite a simple plan.lets see if the board can follow it.
For the board not to see pochs exit coming is falling asleep at the wheel in my book.reaction management,wait for it to happen then try and do something about it.say what you like about cortese but he would never have fallen for pochs stalling game.he would have had his replacement ready to go.is Ralph back from watching the first team? I mean u19s.
If he is then there is a lot of "exciting challenges" waiting for him.
''Fall for Pochs stalling game '' ......... What were they meant to do ? NOT offer him a new contract ? SACK him before the end of the season because he still had a 1 year contract and we had a great season ?

Some things you can do nothing about as much as a director of a business you wish you could ............ Good luck Sir Rickie, never more deserved, his wife has been so excited because she is going home and as for Luke £30 million for an 18 year old when we have Matt Target in the background .........

Onwards and upwards and lets get a little less hysterical, because when a great new manager signs some great new players we will kick on ........ Remember NA leaving and Poch joining ?? Well I for one was more worried then !
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: The trouble is Ralph and les haven't got a clue Matts plan is get a manager to stop players leaving then sign a striker,quite a simple plan.lets see if the board can follow it. For the board not to see pochs exit coming is falling asleep at the wheel in my book.reaction management,wait for it to happen then try and do something about it.say what you like about cortese but he would never have fallen for pochs stalling game.he would have had his replacement ready to go.is Ralph back from watching the first team? I mean u19s. If he is then there is a lot of "exciting challenges" waiting for him.[/p][/quote]''Fall for Pochs stalling game '' ......... What were they meant to do ? NOT offer him a new contract ? SACK him before the end of the season because he still had a 1 year contract and we had a great season ? Some things you can do nothing about as much as a director of a business you wish you could ............ Good luck Sir Rickie, never more deserved, his wife has been so excited because she is going home and as for Luke £30 million for an 18 year old when we have Matt Target in the background ......... Onwards and upwards and lets get a little less hysterical, because when a great new manager signs some great new players we will kick on ........ Remember NA leaving and Poch joining ?? Well I for one was more worried then ! Buddy SFC
  • Score: 43

7:54am Sat 31 May 14

pitbull says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
The trouble is Ralph and les haven't got a clue
Matts plan is get a manager to stop players leaving then sign a striker,quite a simple plan.lets see if the board can follow it.
For the board not to see pochs exit coming is falling asleep at the wheel in my book.reaction management,wait for it to happen then try and do something about it.say what you like about cortese but he would never have fallen for pochs stalling game.he would have had his replacement ready to go.is Ralph back from watching the first team? I mean u19s.
If he is then there is a lot of "exciting challenges" waiting for him.
Perhaps it was the previous chairman that helped the previous manager to plan his departure.
Then the previous chairman says "It wouldn't of happened if I was still at the club"
Just trying to get one over Katarina and the new Board, divide the fan base.

Both the previous chairman and manager had the choice to stay with Saints, they both walked out on us. So much for having Saints in their heart.
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: The trouble is Ralph and les haven't got a clue Matts plan is get a manager to stop players leaving then sign a striker,quite a simple plan.lets see if the board can follow it. For the board not to see pochs exit coming is falling asleep at the wheel in my book.reaction management,wait for it to happen then try and do something about it.say what you like about cortese but he would never have fallen for pochs stalling game.he would have had his replacement ready to go.is Ralph back from watching the first team? I mean u19s. If he is then there is a lot of "exciting challenges" waiting for him.[/p][/quote]Perhaps it was the previous chairman that helped the previous manager to plan his departure. Then the previous chairman says "It wouldn't of happened if I was still at the club" Just trying to get one over Katarina and the new Board, divide the fan base. Both the previous chairman and manager had the choice to stay with Saints, they both walked out on us. So much for having Saints in their heart. pitbull
  • Score: 34

7:54am Sat 31 May 14

NiftyNorthy says...

Shareholder wrote:
Well said Matt! Some people need to get real. Firstly you can't blame the Board for Pochettino leaving; it's quite clear he was determined to leave, probably sinceJanuary. He basically did the dirty on the club, the players and is fans. Secondly every player had a right to be told when an official bid for them is ttabled; under the circumstances it is not surprising that Lambert decided he wanted to go to Liverpool. As for Lallana what if he too had decided to leave? Had it occurred to anyone that might be the case? Is that the board's fault? These days it's hard for ANY club to stop a player if he wants to leave. Arsenal couldn't stop Fabregas, United couldn't stop Ronaldo and likewise Bale at Spurs. In those cases you bite the bullet and get the most you can. That's What's happened with Lambert and it may well be the case with Lallana. But I don't see people chucking stones at them. And people demanding the Board be sacked are living on another planet. Only the owner can do that and she's hardly likely to. And so far there's no evidence they warrant it. They haven't sold anyone and have said time and again Europe remains the goal. And if the likes of Koeman and Yakin want to come then they must be doing something right. These are managers with better track records than Pochettino so we can look forward to more positive moves in the next few weeks. So let's ol follow Matt's example, stay calm and back the club. And if any player demands to leave let's blame them and their greedy agents as much as anyone else. Personally I'm looking forward to the coming season. And I'd much rather be where we are than where we were before the Liebherrs came in - let's just remember that.
This is about the most sensible comment I've read since the pressure came on to the club with MP leaving . It's also worth saying - to those who think NC would somehow have held things together - that he was only successful by running up huge debts using someone else money. It's obvious where his strategy would have ended . Like Shareholder and Matt le Tissier we all need to get real , stop being reactive and critical of the board and trust that they are committed to making and keeping Saints great on a long term basis . Occasionally that will mean some short term pain - as supporters that's exactly when we need to dig deep and get behind the club..
[quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Well said Matt! Some people need to get real. Firstly you can't blame the Board for Pochettino leaving; it's quite clear he was determined to leave, probably sinceJanuary. He basically did the dirty on the club, the players and is fans. Secondly every player had a right to be told when an official bid for them is ttabled; under the circumstances it is not surprising that Lambert decided he wanted to go to Liverpool. As for Lallana what if he too had decided to leave? Had it occurred to anyone that might be the case? Is that the board's fault? These days it's hard for ANY club to stop a player if he wants to leave. Arsenal couldn't stop Fabregas, United couldn't stop Ronaldo and likewise Bale at Spurs. In those cases you bite the bullet and get the most you can. That's What's happened with Lambert and it may well be the case with Lallana. But I don't see people chucking stones at them. And people demanding the Board be sacked are living on another planet. Only the owner can do that and she's hardly likely to. And so far there's no evidence they warrant it. They haven't sold anyone and have said time and again Europe remains the goal. And if the likes of Koeman and Yakin want to come then they must be doing something right. These are managers with better track records than Pochettino so we can look forward to more positive moves in the next few weeks. So let's ol follow Matt's example, stay calm and back the club. And if any player demands to leave let's blame them and their greedy agents as much as anyone else. Personally I'm looking forward to the coming season. And I'd much rather be where we are than where we were before the Liebherrs came in - let's just remember that.[/p][/quote]This is about the most sensible comment I've read since the pressure came on to the club with MP leaving . It's also worth saying - to those who think NC would somehow have held things together - that he was only successful by running up huge debts using someone else money. It's obvious where his strategy would have ended . Like Shareholder and Matt le Tissier we all need to get real , stop being reactive and critical of the board and trust that they are committed to making and keeping Saints great on a long term basis . Occasionally that will mean some short term pain - as supporters that's exactly when we need to dig deep and get behind the club.. NiftyNorthy
  • Score: 48

8:09am Sat 31 May 14

ShanoBrizzy says...

I agree with Mat, crikey I'd vote him for PM!... I can accept that 3 players max leaving the Club won't setback Saints.. anymore than that and it gets dicey.. Example, If Lallana 25M, Shaw 30M and Lambert 5M all go, Saints will have say 60M plus probably another 20M from the tv and prize money to spend.. I'd be happy to see 60M or the rest of that go back to the club, clear the debts and used for infrastuctre investment and something for the owners.. The fans get a new Mgr with 80M to spend.. Given that we can probably accept our Keepers as is for another season.. (Boruc is world class on his day.), With 80M the new Mgr should be able to get 4 quality Europe level players, a CB, LB, winger (on the assumption, Spider, Wanyaman and Cork all stay) and a new goalscorer.. The kids will be good backup until JayRod returns.. Go Saints!
I agree with Mat, crikey I'd vote him for PM!... I can accept that 3 players max leaving the Club won't setback Saints.. anymore than that and it gets dicey.. Example, If Lallana 25M, Shaw 30M and Lambert 5M all go, Saints will have say 60M plus probably another 20M from the tv and prize money to spend.. I'd be happy to see 60M or the rest of that go back to the club, clear the debts and used for infrastuctre investment and something for the owners.. The fans get a new Mgr with 80M to spend.. Given that we can probably accept our Keepers as is for another season.. (Boruc is world class on his day.), With 80M the new Mgr should be able to get 4 quality Europe level players, a CB, LB, winger (on the assumption, Spider, Wanyaman and Cork all stay) and a new goalscorer.. The kids will be good backup until JayRod returns.. Go Saints! ShanoBrizzy
  • Score: 23

8:15am Sat 31 May 14

bullsbags says...

NO NEED TO PANIC
What planet are you on Mat? By the time the pathetic excuse of a board get a new manager we won't have any players left!
NO NEED TO PANIC What planet are you on Mat? By the time the pathetic excuse of a board get a new manager we won't have any players left! bullsbags
  • Score: -52

8:35am Sat 31 May 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

Shareholder wrote:
Well said Matt! Some people need to get real. Firstly you can't blame the Board for Pochettino leaving; it's quite clear he was determined to leave, probably sinceJanuary. He basically did the dirty on the club, the players and is fans. Secondly every player had a right to be told when an official bid for them is ttabled; under the circumstances it is not surprising that Lambert decided he wanted to go to Liverpool. As for Lallana what if he too had decided to leave? Had it occurred to anyone that might be the case? Is that the board's fault? These days it's hard for ANY club to stop a player if he wants to leave. Arsenal couldn't stop Fabregas, United couldn't stop Ronaldo and likewise Bale at Spurs. In those cases you bite the bullet and get the most you can. That's What's happened with Lambert and it may well be the case with Lallana. But I don't see people chucking stones at them. And people demanding the Board be sacked are living on another planet. Only the owner can do that and she's hardly likely to. And so far there's no evidence they warrant it. They haven't sold anyone and have said time and again Europe remains the goal. And if the likes of Koeman and Yakin want to come then they must be doing something right. These are managers with better track records than Pochettino so we can look forward to more positive moves in the next few weeks. So let's ol follow Matt's example, stay calm and back the club. And if any player demands to leave let's blame them and their greedy agents as much as anyone else. Personally I'm looking forward to the coming season. And I'd much rather be where we are than where we were before the Liebherrs came in - let's just remember that.
Fair one - but SFC are not a benevolent society or a CHARITY.

THE BOARD SHOULD HAVE SAID NO TO THE SALE OF LAMBERT.

I do not accept the wishy washy emotional arguments - he was a professional footballer who was well liked by fans and would have contined to deliver for this Club.

There is pressure growing not to sell any more Players and start adding to our light squad.

Every Premiership Game is tough and you need exceptional players to progress - with the departure of lambert we are heading in the wrong direction

The only good bit of business was done by liverpool. Why become a feeder club when we want to progress ourselves.

It all smacks of a lack of leadership and joined up Vision.
[quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Well said Matt! Some people need to get real. Firstly you can't blame the Board for Pochettino leaving; it's quite clear he was determined to leave, probably sinceJanuary. He basically did the dirty on the club, the players and is fans. Secondly every player had a right to be told when an official bid for them is ttabled; under the circumstances it is not surprising that Lambert decided he wanted to go to Liverpool. As for Lallana what if he too had decided to leave? Had it occurred to anyone that might be the case? Is that the board's fault? These days it's hard for ANY club to stop a player if he wants to leave. Arsenal couldn't stop Fabregas, United couldn't stop Ronaldo and likewise Bale at Spurs. In those cases you bite the bullet and get the most you can. That's What's happened with Lambert and it may well be the case with Lallana. But I don't see people chucking stones at them. And people demanding the Board be sacked are living on another planet. Only the owner can do that and she's hardly likely to. And so far there's no evidence they warrant it. They haven't sold anyone and have said time and again Europe remains the goal. And if the likes of Koeman and Yakin want to come then they must be doing something right. These are managers with better track records than Pochettino so we can look forward to more positive moves in the next few weeks. So let's ol follow Matt's example, stay calm and back the club. And if any player demands to leave let's blame them and their greedy agents as much as anyone else. Personally I'm looking forward to the coming season. And I'd much rather be where we are than where we were before the Liebherrs came in - let's just remember that.[/p][/quote]Fair one - but SFC are not a benevolent society or a CHARITY. THE BOARD SHOULD HAVE SAID NO TO THE SALE OF LAMBERT. I do not accept the wishy washy emotional arguments - he was a professional footballer who was well liked by fans and would have contined to deliver for this Club. There is pressure growing not to sell any more Players and start adding to our light squad. Every Premiership Game is tough and you need exceptional players to progress - with the departure of lambert we are heading in the wrong direction The only good bit of business was done by liverpool. Why become a feeder club when we want to progress ourselves. It all smacks of a lack of leadership and joined up Vision. The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: -29

8:39am Sat 31 May 14

saint dave says...

Shareholder wrote:
Well said Matt! Some people need to get real. Firstly you can't blame the Board for Pochettino leaving; it's quite clear he was determined to leave, probably sinceJanuary. He basically did the dirty on the club, the players and is fans. Secondly every player had a right to be told when an official bid for them is ttabled; under the circumstances it is not surprising that Lambert decided he wanted to go to Liverpool. As for Lallana what if he too had decided to leave? Had it occurred to anyone that might be the case? Is that the board's fault? These days it's hard for ANY club to stop a player if he wants to leave. Arsenal couldn't stop Fabregas, United couldn't stop Ronaldo and likewise Bale at Spurs. In those cases you bite the bullet and get the most you can. That's What's happened with Lambert and it may well be the case with Lallana. But I don't see people chucking stones at them. And people demanding the Board be sacked are living on another planet. Only the owner can do that and she's hardly likely to. And so far there's no evidence they warrant it. They haven't sold anyone and have said time and again Europe remains the goal. And if the likes of Koeman and Yakin want to come then they must be doing something right. These are managers with better track records than Pochettino so we can look forward to more positive moves in the next few weeks. So let's ol follow Matt's example, stay calm and back the club. And if any player demands to leave let's blame them and their greedy agents as much as anyone else. Personally I'm looking forward to the coming season. And I'd much rather be where we are than where we were before the Liebherrs came in - let's just remember that.
well done something sensible to read on hear at last, this week
[quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Well said Matt! Some people need to get real. Firstly you can't blame the Board for Pochettino leaving; it's quite clear he was determined to leave, probably sinceJanuary. He basically did the dirty on the club, the players and is fans. Secondly every player had a right to be told when an official bid for them is ttabled; under the circumstances it is not surprising that Lambert decided he wanted to go to Liverpool. As for Lallana what if he too had decided to leave? Had it occurred to anyone that might be the case? Is that the board's fault? These days it's hard for ANY club to stop a player if he wants to leave. Arsenal couldn't stop Fabregas, United couldn't stop Ronaldo and likewise Bale at Spurs. In those cases you bite the bullet and get the most you can. That's What's happened with Lambert and it may well be the case with Lallana. But I don't see people chucking stones at them. And people demanding the Board be sacked are living on another planet. Only the owner can do that and she's hardly likely to. And so far there's no evidence they warrant it. They haven't sold anyone and have said time and again Europe remains the goal. And if the likes of Koeman and Yakin want to come then they must be doing something right. These are managers with better track records than Pochettino so we can look forward to more positive moves in the next few weeks. So let's ol follow Matt's example, stay calm and back the club. And if any player demands to leave let's blame them and their greedy agents as much as anyone else. Personally I'm looking forward to the coming season. And I'd much rather be where we are than where we were before the Liebherrs came in - let's just remember that.[/p][/quote]well done something sensible to read on hear at last, this week saint dave
  • Score: 28

8:44am Sat 31 May 14

Woolston ollie says...

Get your boots out Matt they are gonna need you mate.
Get your boots out Matt they are gonna need you mate. Woolston ollie
  • Score: 5

9:12am Sat 31 May 14

Sammy2sheds says...

Buddy SFC wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
The trouble is Ralph and les haven't got a clue
Matts plan is get a manager to stop players leaving then sign a striker,quite a simple plan.lets see if the board can follow it.
For the board not to see pochs exit coming is falling asleep at the wheel in my book.reaction management,wait for it to happen then try and do something about it.say what you like about cortese but he would never have fallen for pochs stalling game.he would have had his replacement ready to go.is Ralph back from watching the first team? I mean u19s.
If he is then there is a lot of "exciting challenges" waiting for him.
''Fall for Pochs stalling game '' ......... What were they meant to do ? NOT offer him a new contract ? SACK him before the end of the season because he still had a 1 year contract and we had a great season ?

Some things you can do nothing about as much as a director of a business you wish you could ............ Good luck Sir Rickie, never more deserved, his wife has been so excited because she is going home and as for Luke £30 million for an 18 year old when we have Matt Target in the background .........

Onwards and upwards and lets get a little less hysterical, because when a great new manager signs some great new players we will kick on ........ Remember NA leaving and Poch joining ?? Well I for one was more worried then !
Any decent board will have had a list of candidates ready to go
A decent board will have seen this coming,les himself said he was happy to wait until the simmer...now he looks like a nob
There was no plan b and I don't believe a word either of them say.
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: The trouble is Ralph and les haven't got a clue Matts plan is get a manager to stop players leaving then sign a striker,quite a simple plan.lets see if the board can follow it. For the board not to see pochs exit coming is falling asleep at the wheel in my book.reaction management,wait for it to happen then try and do something about it.say what you like about cortese but he would never have fallen for pochs stalling game.he would have had his replacement ready to go.is Ralph back from watching the first team? I mean u19s. If he is then there is a lot of "exciting challenges" waiting for him.[/p][/quote]''Fall for Pochs stalling game '' ......... What were they meant to do ? NOT offer him a new contract ? SACK him before the end of the season because he still had a 1 year contract and we had a great season ? Some things you can do nothing about as much as a director of a business you wish you could ............ Good luck Sir Rickie, never more deserved, his wife has been so excited because she is going home and as for Luke £30 million for an 18 year old when we have Matt Target in the background ......... Onwards and upwards and lets get a little less hysterical, because when a great new manager signs some great new players we will kick on ........ Remember NA leaving and Poch joining ?? Well I for one was more worried then ![/p][/quote]Any decent board will have had a list of candidates ready to go A decent board will have seen this coming,les himself said he was happy to wait until the simmer...now he looks like a nob There was no plan b and I don't believe a word either of them say. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: -6

9:12am Sat 31 May 14

spirit of 66 says...

Agree with MLT. Good young progressive manager soon to be installed, everybody calms down. Thought we were a good team last season, but 3 players short of being a great team; add a fast winger (Plan B with width), goal poacher (keeps goal tally ticking over) and top-class central defender (for clean sheets) and we get a crack at a top 4 spot. Hope we keep both Lallana and Shaw but could afford to lose one. Strike force is thin now - SRL gone, JRod injured, badboy Osvaldo excluded, Guly retired, only lads left or Mayuka on loan. This is the priority area, but no need to panic as this could be rectified with a couple of cute signings.
Agree with MLT. Good young progressive manager soon to be installed, everybody calms down. Thought we were a good team last season, but 3 players short of being a great team; add a fast winger (Plan B with width), goal poacher (keeps goal tally ticking over) and top-class central defender (for clean sheets) and we get a crack at a top 4 spot. Hope we keep both Lallana and Shaw but could afford to lose one. Strike force is thin now - SRL gone, JRod injured, badboy Osvaldo excluded, Guly retired, only lads left or Mayuka on loan. This is the priority area, but no need to panic as this could be rectified with a couple of cute signings. spirit of 66
  • Score: 15

9:15am Sat 31 May 14

thinklikealocal says...

pitbull wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
The trouble is Ralph and les haven't got a clue
Matts plan is get a manager to stop players leaving then sign a striker,quite a simple plan.lets see if the board can follow it.
For the board not to see pochs exit coming is falling asleep at the wheel in my book.reaction management,wait for it to happen then try and do something about it.say what you like about cortese but he would never have fallen for pochs stalling game.he would have had his replacement ready to go.is Ralph back from watching the first team? I mean u19s.
If he is then there is a lot of "exciting challenges" waiting for him.
Perhaps it was the previous chairman that helped the previous manager to plan his departure.
Then the previous chairman says "It wouldn't of happened if I was still at the club"
Just trying to get one over Katarina and the new Board, divide the fan base.

Both the previous chairman and manager had the choice to stay with Saints, they both walked out on us. So much for having Saints in their heart.
Was it a coincidence that NC gave his first interview since leaving a few days before MP left? Hell no..... I think the current hysteria quite suits the ruthless control freak. He couldn't get KL to agree to him having absolute financial authonomy so walked. So much for his vision passion and commitment.

Would I be surprised if he was behind the scenes destabilising and fostering the notion that it would all have been alright if he was still in charge, absolutely not.
[quote][p][bold]pitbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: The trouble is Ralph and les haven't got a clue Matts plan is get a manager to stop players leaving then sign a striker,quite a simple plan.lets see if the board can follow it. For the board not to see pochs exit coming is falling asleep at the wheel in my book.reaction management,wait for it to happen then try and do something about it.say what you like about cortese but he would never have fallen for pochs stalling game.he would have had his replacement ready to go.is Ralph back from watching the first team? I mean u19s. If he is then there is a lot of "exciting challenges" waiting for him.[/p][/quote]Perhaps it was the previous chairman that helped the previous manager to plan his departure. Then the previous chairman says "It wouldn't of happened if I was still at the club" Just trying to get one over Katarina and the new Board, divide the fan base. Both the previous chairman and manager had the choice to stay with Saints, they both walked out on us. So much for having Saints in their heart.[/p][/quote]Was it a coincidence that NC gave his first interview since leaving a few days before MP left? Hell no..... I think the current hysteria quite suits the ruthless control freak. He couldn't get KL to agree to him having absolute financial authonomy so walked. So much for his vision passion and commitment. Would I be surprised if he was behind the scenes destabilising and fostering the notion that it would all have been alright if he was still in charge, absolutely not. thinklikealocal
  • Score: 17

9:21am Sat 31 May 14

spratt says...

Well done Matt for a calming slant on things. Even if we sell our best players there will be a massive sum to acquire replacements. Only concern I have is that we have to start rebuilding again when things were going so incredibly well. Not too bothered about Rickie going he is obviously in his final years and this is what he wanted. Leaves room for some lethal firepower up front which was our greatest weakness. Cant help smelling a hint of Cortese behind this whole sorry business. Moch was never going to stay. I knew we had Jesus at St Marys but didn't realise he brought Judas with him. Now get a decent manager and get things moving again.
Well done Matt for a calming slant on things. Even if we sell our best players there will be a massive sum to acquire replacements. Only concern I have is that we have to start rebuilding again when things were going so incredibly well. Not too bothered about Rickie going he is obviously in his final years and this is what he wanted. Leaves room for some lethal firepower up front which was our greatest weakness. Cant help smelling a hint of Cortese behind this whole sorry business. Moch was never going to stay. I knew we had Jesus at St Marys but didn't realise he brought Judas with him. Now get a decent manager and get things moving again. spratt
  • Score: 19

9:33am Sat 31 May 14

InThatNumber says...

These are Sky bets latest odds
Next Permanent Southampton Manager
Next Permanent Manager
Ronald Koeman 11/10
Steve McClaren 6/1
Murat Yakin 8/1
Michael Laudrup 9/1
Sean Dyche 10/1
David Moyes 10/1
Roberto Mancini 14/1
Neil Lennon 16/1
Eddie Howe 18/1
Malky Mackay 25/1
Oscar Garcia 25/1
Thomas Tuchel 33/1
Paul Clement 33/1
Frank de Boer 40/1
Dan Petrescu 40/1
Roberto Di Matteo 40/1
Remi Garde 40/1
Rafa Benitez 40/1
Steve Clarke 40/1
Gus Poyet 50/1
Claudio Ranieri 50/1
Tony Pulis 66/1
Ralf Rangnick 66/1
Slaven Bilic 66/1
Frank Rijkaard 66/1
Massimiliano Allegri 66/1
Uwe Rosler 66/1
Tim Sherwood 66/1
Andre Villas-Boas 66/1
Glenn Hoddle 66/1
Jorge Jesus 66/1
Unai Emery 66/1
Nigel Adkins 80/1
Pepe Mel 80/1
Marian Pahars 80/1
Thomas Schaaf 80/1
Quique Sanchez Flores 80/1
Zinedine Zidane 100/1
Harry Redknapp 100/1
Tata Martino 100/1
Matt Le Tissier 100/1
Nigel Clough 100/1

Hope Ronald Koeman gets the nod
These are Sky bets latest odds Next Permanent Southampton Manager Next Permanent Manager Ronald Koeman 11/10 Steve McClaren 6/1 Murat Yakin 8/1 Michael Laudrup 9/1 Sean Dyche 10/1 David Moyes 10/1 Roberto Mancini 14/1 Neil Lennon 16/1 Eddie Howe 18/1 Malky Mackay 25/1 Oscar Garcia 25/1 Thomas Tuchel 33/1 Paul Clement 33/1 Frank de Boer 40/1 Dan Petrescu 40/1 Roberto Di Matteo 40/1 Remi Garde 40/1 Rafa Benitez 40/1 Steve Clarke 40/1 Gus Poyet 50/1 Claudio Ranieri 50/1 Tony Pulis 66/1 Ralf Rangnick 66/1 Slaven Bilic 66/1 Frank Rijkaard 66/1 Massimiliano Allegri 66/1 Uwe Rosler 66/1 Tim Sherwood 66/1 Andre Villas-Boas 66/1 Glenn Hoddle 66/1 Jorge Jesus 66/1 Unai Emery 66/1 Nigel Adkins 80/1 Pepe Mel 80/1 Marian Pahars 80/1 Thomas Schaaf 80/1 Quique Sanchez Flores 80/1 Zinedine Zidane 100/1 Harry Redknapp 100/1 Tata Martino 100/1 Matt Le Tissier 100/1 Nigel Clough 100/1 Hope Ronald Koeman gets the nod InThatNumber
  • Score: 6

9:41am Sat 31 May 14

Santa Retfordia says...

I like this thread.
I like this thread. Santa Retfordia
  • Score: 11

9:51am Sat 31 May 14

GHamilton says...

MLT is spot on here; we always knew come the end of the season we would lose some of our star players. Always said we needed a world class striker, somebody who can net us 25 goals plus per season. To early to condemn the board....we'll know how ambitious they are and their comittment, by the manager they appoint and the size of the transfer budget they hand him.

When things start to go in a manner that is not to our likeing, we need to sit down, think things over, examine our options, talk things through, and above all .....STAY CALM!!!!!!!
MLT is spot on here; we always knew come the end of the season we would lose some of our star players. Always said we needed a world class striker, somebody who can net us 25 goals plus per season. To early to condemn the board....we'll know how ambitious they are and their comittment, by the manager they appoint and the size of the transfer budget they hand him. When things start to go in a manner that is not to our likeing, we need to sit down, think things over, examine our options, talk things through, and above all .....STAY CALM!!!!!!! GHamilton
  • Score: 15

9:51am Sat 31 May 14

Kings Lynn Saint says...

Not sure if this has already been said but here's my thoughts.

We get a decent exiting manager in (like Yakin or Koeman) who signs a decent striker to replace Rickie.

Next (worse case scenario) we DID sell Shaw AND Lallana for about £60M. We have Clyne and Targett to replace Shaw, and a player called Gastom Ramirez who can play the Lallana role.

We then have £60M plus what else the board offer for transfers. That should be enough to purchase the players we need in the positions we need.

I agree with Matt. Everyone calm down, have faith and trust in the club and the board, and support the Saints.
Not sure if this has already been said but here's my thoughts. We get a decent exiting manager in (like Yakin or Koeman) who signs a decent striker to replace Rickie. Next (worse case scenario) we DID sell Shaw AND Lallana for about £60M. We have Clyne and Targett to replace Shaw, and a player called Gastom Ramirez who can play the Lallana role. We then have £60M plus what else the board offer for transfers. That should be enough to purchase the players we need in the positions we need. I agree with Matt. Everyone calm down, have faith and trust in the club and the board, and support the Saints. Kings Lynn Saint
  • Score: 27

9:57am Sat 31 May 14

jls217 says...

JohnItaly wrote:
Whilst not arguing with anything that Matt has said the one thing that concerns me is that the Board appear to have taken no positive steps towards replacing Pochettino prior to him leaving when it must have been obvious he was going to leave. His reluctance to beginning negotiations over a new contract was a good clue. It would be interesting to know how long the new contract "was on the table". One can only make assumptions it must have been a few weeks this simply endorsing the notion he had no intention of remaining if the right offer came along, the Spurs situation being well publicised as an ideal opportunity. If the announcement of a new manager / coach had been made within a few days it would have allayed the fears and concerns of the fans and no doubt the players as well as showing the Board up in a very positive light. The longer the delay of the appointment of Pochettino's replacement the more unsettle the situation will become with potential fallout that it may be difficult to recover from.
Because they haven't phoned us individually to ask our opinions doesn't mean they're not working to find someone to manage.

They've got their livelihoods invested into the club - none of them want to lost their income so they will work to get the right one in. Matt is absolutely spot on. If the board had only one or two names shortlisted it probably could have been done and dusted by yesterday but RK said we have been inundated with quality managers applying and they are now in the lucky position of being able to pick and choose. There are some fan whose fears will never be allayed as they seem to have half empty cups - not much anybody can do about that. Just keep the faith and if anyone knows about football it's Matt - don't listen to me, listen to him
[quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: Whilst not arguing with anything that Matt has said the one thing that concerns me is that the Board appear to have taken no positive steps towards replacing Pochettino prior to him leaving when it must have been obvious he was going to leave. His reluctance to beginning negotiations over a new contract was a good clue. It would be interesting to know how long the new contract "was on the table". One can only make assumptions it must have been a few weeks this simply endorsing the notion he had no intention of remaining if the right offer came along, the Spurs situation being well publicised as an ideal opportunity. If the announcement of a new manager / coach had been made within a few days it would have allayed the fears and concerns of the fans and no doubt the players as well as showing the Board up in a very positive light. The longer the delay of the appointment of Pochettino's replacement the more unsettle the situation will become with potential fallout that it may be difficult to recover from.[/p][/quote]Because they haven't phoned us individually to ask our opinions doesn't mean they're not working to find someone to manage. They've got their livelihoods invested into the club - none of them want to lost their income so they will work to get the right one in. Matt is absolutely spot on. If the board had only one or two names shortlisted it probably could have been done and dusted by yesterday but RK said we have been inundated with quality managers applying and they are now in the lucky position of being able to pick and choose. There are some fan whose fears will never be allayed as they seem to have half empty cups - not much anybody can do about that. Just keep the faith and if anyone knows about football it's Matt - don't listen to me, listen to him jls217
  • Score: 11

9:59am Sat 31 May 14

jls217 says...

Kings Lynn Saint wrote:
Not sure if this has already been said but here's my thoughts.

We get a decent exiting manager in (like Yakin or Koeman) who signs a decent striker to replace Rickie.

Next (worse case scenario) we DID sell Shaw AND Lallana for about £60M. We have Clyne and Targett to replace Shaw, and a player called Gastom Ramirez who can play the Lallana role.

We then have £60M plus what else the board offer for transfers. That should be enough to purchase the players we need in the positions we need.

I agree with Matt. Everyone calm down, have faith and trust in the club and the board, and support the Saints.
Thanks Kings - said exactly this about a week ago. Keep smiling.
[quote][p][bold]Kings Lynn Saint[/bold] wrote: Not sure if this has already been said but here's my thoughts. We get a decent exiting manager in (like Yakin or Koeman) who signs a decent striker to replace Rickie. Next (worse case scenario) we DID sell Shaw AND Lallana for about £60M. We have Clyne and Targett to replace Shaw, and a player called Gastom Ramirez who can play the Lallana role. We then have £60M plus what else the board offer for transfers. That should be enough to purchase the players we need in the positions we need. I agree with Matt. Everyone calm down, have faith and trust in the club and the board, and support the Saints.[/p][/quote]Thanks Kings - said exactly this about a week ago. Keep smiling. jls217
  • Score: 7

10:28am Sat 31 May 14

Shrewdsaint says...

I agree with Matt. I can see where all the doommongery comes from though, Radio 5 just goes on about how many more will leave, slippery slope, victims of their own success, yada yada. We have great players and we had a good manger therefore others want them, simple as. If they go. they go because they want to and for inflated prices because we don't need to sell. That is not the board's fault. Once the new manager is in we can start bringing in more top players, it would be wrong to do so before or you end up with a Spurs of last season.
I agree with Matt. I can see where all the doommongery comes from though, Radio 5 just goes on about how many more will leave, slippery slope, victims of their own success, yada yada. We have great players and we had a good manger therefore others want them, simple as. If they go. they go because they want to and for inflated prices because we don't need to sell. That is not the board's fault. Once the new manager is in we can start bringing in more top players, it would be wrong to do so before or you end up with a Spurs of last season. Shrewdsaint
  • Score: 7

10:29am Sat 31 May 14

BarnetSaint says...

Problem is kings Lynn, yes we do have quality replacements for what we're about to lose, but they too will be flogged off as soon as a bigger club comes calling.
And as for reinvesting after the sales, it will be a fraction of what we will make.
I fear kat has pulled the plug.
Problem is kings Lynn, yes we do have quality replacements for what we're about to lose, but they too will be flogged off as soon as a bigger club comes calling. And as for reinvesting after the sales, it will be a fraction of what we will make. I fear kat has pulled the plug. BarnetSaint
  • Score: -1

10:52am Sat 31 May 14

Sammy2sheds says...

Apart from rafa and moyes none of those managers excite me
People on here talking about koeman and takin like they know anything about them.if they get rafa or moyes that would be a statement of intent.
Apart from rafa and moyes none of those managers excite me People on here talking about koeman and takin like they know anything about them.if they get rafa or moyes that would be a statement of intent. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: -3

10:57am Sat 31 May 14

Saint Surrey says...

If RL stays and we get the 20+ goals per season striker everybody is asking for, who drops to the bench? My guess it's RL. Also, in 2 years when his contract expires, he'll be 35 and unlikely to be offered another. He wants Liverpool, we make a profit, it's win-win, providing we buy a top class striker.
If Shaw and/or Lallana go, we have to work out how to fill their roles. Targett or Clyne for left back and Reed for midfield?
If RL stays and we get the 20+ goals per season striker everybody is asking for, who drops to the bench? My guess it's RL. Also, in 2 years when his contract expires, he'll be 35 and unlikely to be offered another. He wants Liverpool, we make a profit, it's win-win, providing we buy a top class striker. If Shaw and/or Lallana go, we have to work out how to fill their roles. Targett or Clyne for left back and Reed for midfield? Saint Surrey
  • Score: 7

11:03am Sat 31 May 14

Steve_N says...

InThatNumber wrote:
These are Sky bets latest odds
Next Permanent Southampton Manager
Next Permanent Manager
Ronald Koeman 11/10
Steve McClaren 6/1
Murat Yakin 8/1
Michael Laudrup 9/1
Sean Dyche 10/1
David Moyes 10/1
Roberto Mancini 14/1
Neil Lennon 16/1
Eddie Howe 18/1
Malky Mackay 25/1
Oscar Garcia 25/1
Thomas Tuchel 33/1
Paul Clement 33/1
Frank de Boer 40/1
Dan Petrescu 40/1
Roberto Di Matteo 40/1
Remi Garde 40/1
Rafa Benitez 40/1
Steve Clarke 40/1
Gus Poyet 50/1
Claudio Ranieri 50/1
Tony Pulis 66/1
Ralf Rangnick 66/1
Slaven Bilic 66/1
Frank Rijkaard 66/1
Massimiliano Allegri 66/1
Uwe Rosler 66/1
Tim Sherwood 66/1
Andre Villas-Boas 66/1
Glenn Hoddle 66/1
Jorge Jesus 66/1
Unai Emery 66/1
Nigel Adkins 80/1
Pepe Mel 80/1
Marian Pahars 80/1
Thomas Schaaf 80/1
Quique Sanchez Flores 80/1
Zinedine Zidane 100/1
Harry Redknapp 100/1
Tata Martino 100/1
Matt Le Tissier 100/1
Nigel Clough 100/1

Hope Ronald Koeman gets the nod
I'm not one to follow the odds. Are there really that many names out there being quoted by the bookies? He's well down the list, but I like the sound of Uwe Rosler. He has no EPL managerial experience I know. However, he turned Wigan around in pretty quick time last season. It's also worth reading some of the quotes from players he's coached in the last couple of seasons. The downside though is could he persuade the majority of our current squad to stay put?
[quote][p][bold]InThatNumber[/bold] wrote: These are Sky bets latest odds Next Permanent Southampton Manager Next Permanent Manager Ronald Koeman 11/10 Steve McClaren 6/1 Murat Yakin 8/1 Michael Laudrup 9/1 Sean Dyche 10/1 David Moyes 10/1 Roberto Mancini 14/1 Neil Lennon 16/1 Eddie Howe 18/1 Malky Mackay 25/1 Oscar Garcia 25/1 Thomas Tuchel 33/1 Paul Clement 33/1 Frank de Boer 40/1 Dan Petrescu 40/1 Roberto Di Matteo 40/1 Remi Garde 40/1 Rafa Benitez 40/1 Steve Clarke 40/1 Gus Poyet 50/1 Claudio Ranieri 50/1 Tony Pulis 66/1 Ralf Rangnick 66/1 Slaven Bilic 66/1 Frank Rijkaard 66/1 Massimiliano Allegri 66/1 Uwe Rosler 66/1 Tim Sherwood 66/1 Andre Villas-Boas 66/1 Glenn Hoddle 66/1 Jorge Jesus 66/1 Unai Emery 66/1 Nigel Adkins 80/1 Pepe Mel 80/1 Marian Pahars 80/1 Thomas Schaaf 80/1 Quique Sanchez Flores 80/1 Zinedine Zidane 100/1 Harry Redknapp 100/1 Tata Martino 100/1 Matt Le Tissier 100/1 Nigel Clough 100/1 Hope Ronald Koeman gets the nod[/p][/quote]I'm not one to follow the odds. Are there really that many names out there being quoted by the bookies? He's well down the list, but I like the sound of Uwe Rosler. He has no EPL managerial experience I know. However, he turned Wigan around in pretty quick time last season. It's also worth reading some of the quotes from players he's coached in the last couple of seasons. The downside though is could he persuade the majority of our current squad to stay put? Steve_N
  • Score: -1

11:23am Sat 31 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Shareholder wrote:
Well said Matt! Some people need to get real. Firstly you can't blame the Board for Pochettino leaving; it's quite clear he was determined to leave, probably sinceJanuary. He basically did the dirty on the club, the players and is fans. Secondly every player had a right to be told when an official bid for them is ttabled; under the circumstances it is not surprising that Lambert decided he wanted to go to Liverpool. As for Lallana what if he too had decided to leave? Had it occurred to anyone that might be the case? Is that the board's fault? These days it's hard for ANY club to stop a player if he wants to leave. Arsenal couldn't stop Fabregas, United couldn't stop Ronaldo and likewise Bale at Spurs. In those cases you bite the bullet and get the most you can. That's What's happened with Lambert and it may well be the case with Lallana. But I don't see people chucking stones at them. And people demanding the Board be sacked are living on another planet. Only the owner can do that and she's hardly likely to. And so far there's no evidence they warrant it. They haven't sold anyone and have said time and again Europe remains the goal. And if the likes of Koeman and Yakin want to come then they must be doing something right. These are managers with better track records than Pochettino so we can look forward to more positive moves in the next few weeks. So let's ol follow Matt's example, stay calm and back the club. And if any player demands to leave let's blame them and their greedy agents as much as anyone else. Personally I'm looking forward to the coming season. And I'd much rather be where we are than where we were before the Liebherrs came in - let's just remember that.
100% agree,
The words and rhetoric some on here have aimed at the board is nothing short of disgusting. What do people want KL to sell to an owner like Cardiffs or hulls? If theres a multi billionaire out there with a real passion for the club, which some are saying she should sell to, why didn't they come forward when we were in trouble? KL doesn't need to worry about selling players to raise a few million. She is worth a fortune and would make a huge return on her fathers investment by just selling as is.
I'm happy to wait and see what happens, we will know what the intentions are soon enough and until then I'm not going to let a few newspaper headlines worry me, as LeGod said 'don't panic'.
[quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Well said Matt! Some people need to get real. Firstly you can't blame the Board for Pochettino leaving; it's quite clear he was determined to leave, probably sinceJanuary. He basically did the dirty on the club, the players and is fans. Secondly every player had a right to be told when an official bid for them is ttabled; under the circumstances it is not surprising that Lambert decided he wanted to go to Liverpool. As for Lallana what if he too had decided to leave? Had it occurred to anyone that might be the case? Is that the board's fault? These days it's hard for ANY club to stop a player if he wants to leave. Arsenal couldn't stop Fabregas, United couldn't stop Ronaldo and likewise Bale at Spurs. In those cases you bite the bullet and get the most you can. That's What's happened with Lambert and it may well be the case with Lallana. But I don't see people chucking stones at them. And people demanding the Board be sacked are living on another planet. Only the owner can do that and she's hardly likely to. And so far there's no evidence they warrant it. They haven't sold anyone and have said time and again Europe remains the goal. And if the likes of Koeman and Yakin want to come then they must be doing something right. These are managers with better track records than Pochettino so we can look forward to more positive moves in the next few weeks. So let's ol follow Matt's example, stay calm and back the club. And if any player demands to leave let's blame them and their greedy agents as much as anyone else. Personally I'm looking forward to the coming season. And I'd much rather be where we are than where we were before the Liebherrs came in - let's just remember that.[/p][/quote]100% agree, The words and rhetoric some on here have aimed at the board is nothing short of disgusting. What do people want KL to sell to an owner like Cardiffs or hulls? If theres a multi billionaire out there with a real passion for the club, which some are saying she should sell to, why didn't they come forward when we were in trouble? KL doesn't need to worry about selling players to raise a few million. She is worth a fortune and would make a huge return on her fathers investment by just selling as is. I'm happy to wait and see what happens, we will know what the intentions are soon enough and until then I'm not going to let a few newspaper headlines worry me, as LeGod said 'don't panic'. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 7

11:24am Sat 31 May 14

noodlesnewman says...

InThatNumber wrote:
These are Sky bets latest odds
Next Permanent Southampton Manager
Next Permanent Manager
Ronald Koeman 11/10
Steve McClaren 6/1
Murat Yakin 8/1
Michael Laudrup 9/1
Sean Dyche 10/1
David Moyes 10/1
Roberto Mancini 14/1
Neil Lennon 16/1
Eddie Howe 18/1
Malky Mackay 25/1
Oscar Garcia 25/1
Thomas Tuchel 33/1
Paul Clement 33/1
Frank de Boer 40/1
Dan Petrescu 40/1
Roberto Di Matteo 40/1
Remi Garde 40/1
Rafa Benitez 40/1
Steve Clarke 40/1
Gus Poyet 50/1
Claudio Ranieri 50/1
Tony Pulis 66/1
Ralf Rangnick 66/1
Slaven Bilic 66/1
Frank Rijkaard 66/1
Massimiliano Allegri 66/1
Uwe Rosler 66/1
Tim Sherwood 66/1
Andre Villas-Boas 66/1
Glenn Hoddle 66/1
Jorge Jesus 66/1
Unai Emery 66/1
Nigel Adkins 80/1
Pepe Mel 80/1
Marian Pahars 80/1
Thomas Schaaf 80/1
Quique Sanchez Flores 80/1
Zinedine Zidane 100/1
Harry Redknapp 100/1
Tata Martino 100/1
Matt Le Tissier 100/1
Nigel Clough 100/1

Hope Ronald Koeman gets the nod
feyenoords youth system was voted best in holland for 5 th year on trot ! ronny good with the youngsters eh , he s coming , cant wait he s a total legend with a proper cv not like the dud that became a spud .
[quote][p][bold]InThatNumber[/bold] wrote: These are Sky bets latest odds Next Permanent Southampton Manager Next Permanent Manager Ronald Koeman 11/10 Steve McClaren 6/1 Murat Yakin 8/1 Michael Laudrup 9/1 Sean Dyche 10/1 David Moyes 10/1 Roberto Mancini 14/1 Neil Lennon 16/1 Eddie Howe 18/1 Malky Mackay 25/1 Oscar Garcia 25/1 Thomas Tuchel 33/1 Paul Clement 33/1 Frank de Boer 40/1 Dan Petrescu 40/1 Roberto Di Matteo 40/1 Remi Garde 40/1 Rafa Benitez 40/1 Steve Clarke 40/1 Gus Poyet 50/1 Claudio Ranieri 50/1 Tony Pulis 66/1 Ralf Rangnick 66/1 Slaven Bilic 66/1 Frank Rijkaard 66/1 Massimiliano Allegri 66/1 Uwe Rosler 66/1 Tim Sherwood 66/1 Andre Villas-Boas 66/1 Glenn Hoddle 66/1 Jorge Jesus 66/1 Unai Emery 66/1 Nigel Adkins 80/1 Pepe Mel 80/1 Marian Pahars 80/1 Thomas Schaaf 80/1 Quique Sanchez Flores 80/1 Zinedine Zidane 100/1 Harry Redknapp 100/1 Tata Martino 100/1 Matt Le Tissier 100/1 Nigel Clough 100/1 Hope Ronald Koeman gets the nod[/p][/quote]feyenoords youth system was voted best in holland for 5 th year on trot ! ronny good with the youngsters eh , he s coming , cant wait he s a total legend with a proper cv not like the dud that became a spud . noodlesnewman
  • Score: 6

11:34am Sat 31 May 14

Bwana23 says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
The trouble is Ralph and les haven't got a clue
Matts plan is get a manager to stop players leaving then sign a striker,quite a simple plan.lets see if the board can follow it.
For the board not to see pochs exit coming is falling asleep at the wheel in my book.reaction management,wait for it to happen then try and do something about it.say what you like about cortese but he would never have fallen for pochs stalling game.he would have had his replacement ready to go.is Ralph back from watching the first team? I mean u19s.
If he is then there is a lot of "exciting challenges" waiting for him.
They saw it coming with Mo PO and offered a new contract, which he rejected. As he was determined to leave what more could they do. His contract from NC actually allowed a get out Clause, with compensation, so he was always going to walk. Other Facts. Initial bid for Al rejected, same as bid for LS so what have they done wrong?? Just because the Media keep writing it does not mean it is true. If they know so much how come no one mentioned Ricki going to Liverpool?
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: The trouble is Ralph and les haven't got a clue Matts plan is get a manager to stop players leaving then sign a striker,quite a simple plan.lets see if the board can follow it. For the board not to see pochs exit coming is falling asleep at the wheel in my book.reaction management,wait for it to happen then try and do something about it.say what you like about cortese but he would never have fallen for pochs stalling game.he would have had his replacement ready to go.is Ralph back from watching the first team? I mean u19s. If he is then there is a lot of "exciting challenges" waiting for him.[/p][/quote]They saw it coming with Mo PO and offered a new contract, which he rejected. As he was determined to leave what more could they do. His contract from NC actually allowed a get out Clause, with compensation, so he was always going to walk. Other Facts. Initial bid for Al rejected, same as bid for LS so what have they done wrong?? Just because the Media keep writing it does not mean it is true. If they know so much how come no one mentioned Ricki going to Liverpool? Bwana23
  • Score: 10

12:08pm Sat 31 May 14

dualsy says...

Krruger say no need to sell ?ricky wanted to go home hes been good for s.f.c thank you ,good luck to you.

Lets see if the board have teeth ?
will they lose all faith and respect from the fans?

watch this space...........
Krruger say no need to sell ?ricky wanted to go home hes been good for s.f.c thank you ,good luck to you. Lets see if the board have teeth ? will they lose all faith and respect from the fans? watch this space........... dualsy
  • Score: 5

12:09pm Sat 31 May 14

saint Compo says...

InThatNumber wrote:
These are Sky bets latest odds
Next Permanent Southampton Manager
Next Permanent Manager
Ronald Koeman 11/10
Steve McClaren 6/1
Murat Yakin 8/1
Michael Laudrup 9/1
Sean Dyche 10/1
David Moyes 10/1
Roberto Mancini 14/1
Neil Lennon 16/1
Eddie Howe 18/1
Malky Mackay 25/1
Oscar Garcia 25/1
Thomas Tuchel 33/1
Paul Clement 33/1
Frank de Boer 40/1
Dan Petrescu 40/1
Roberto Di Matteo 40/1
Remi Garde 40/1
Rafa Benitez 40/1
Steve Clarke 40/1
Gus Poyet 50/1
Claudio Ranieri 50/1
Tony Pulis 66/1
Ralf Rangnick 66/1
Slaven Bilic 66/1
Frank Rijkaard 66/1
Massimiliano Allegri 66/1
Uwe Rosler 66/1
Tim Sherwood 66/1
Andre Villas-Boas 66/1
Glenn Hoddle 66/1
Jorge Jesus 66/1
Unai Emery 66/1
Nigel Adkins 80/1
Pepe Mel 80/1
Marian Pahars 80/1
Thomas Schaaf 80/1
Quique Sanchez Flores 80/1
Zinedine Zidane 100/1
Harry Redknapp 100/1
Tata Martino 100/1
Matt Le Tissier 100/1
Nigel Clough 100/1

Hope Ronald Koeman gets the nod
Koeman doesn't have a very good record as a manger. He's managed a number of big clubs in Europe but only quite briefly before moving on under a bit of a cloud.

I'm not convinced he's the best choice.

COYR
[quote][p][bold]InThatNumber[/bold] wrote: These are Sky bets latest odds Next Permanent Southampton Manager Next Permanent Manager Ronald Koeman 11/10 Steve McClaren 6/1 Murat Yakin 8/1 Michael Laudrup 9/1 Sean Dyche 10/1 David Moyes 10/1 Roberto Mancini 14/1 Neil Lennon 16/1 Eddie Howe 18/1 Malky Mackay 25/1 Oscar Garcia 25/1 Thomas Tuchel 33/1 Paul Clement 33/1 Frank de Boer 40/1 Dan Petrescu 40/1 Roberto Di Matteo 40/1 Remi Garde 40/1 Rafa Benitez 40/1 Steve Clarke 40/1 Gus Poyet 50/1 Claudio Ranieri 50/1 Tony Pulis 66/1 Ralf Rangnick 66/1 Slaven Bilic 66/1 Frank Rijkaard 66/1 Massimiliano Allegri 66/1 Uwe Rosler 66/1 Tim Sherwood 66/1 Andre Villas-Boas 66/1 Glenn Hoddle 66/1 Jorge Jesus 66/1 Unai Emery 66/1 Nigel Adkins 80/1 Pepe Mel 80/1 Marian Pahars 80/1 Thomas Schaaf 80/1 Quique Sanchez Flores 80/1 Zinedine Zidane 100/1 Harry Redknapp 100/1 Tata Martino 100/1 Matt Le Tissier 100/1 Nigel Clough 100/1 Hope Ronald Koeman gets the nod[/p][/quote]Koeman doesn't have a very good record as a manger. He's managed a number of big clubs in Europe but only quite briefly before moving on under a bit of a cloud. I'm not convinced he's the best choice. COYR saint Compo
  • Score: 1

12:46pm Sat 31 May 14

fritzer says...

Rumour!! the manager of Toronto Maple Leafs was seen at St Marys 12.00 noon today, looks that things are about to happen.
Rumour!! the manager of Toronto Maple Leafs was seen at St Marys 12.00 noon today, looks that things are about to happen. fritzer
  • Score: 1

1:23pm Sat 31 May 14

Malcombe says...

I totally agree with Matt and the very good comments by Shareholder, I do not agree with Sammy2sheds because members of the Board are not fick and stoopid if they were with no disrespect they'd be sweeping Roads or cleaning Public Toilets
.
It hurts every Supporter when there favourite Player or Players leaves there Club and as Shareholder put it's not possible to stop any Player wanting to increase there Bank Account we all know Contracts are worthless, Players will not give a 2nd thought if they know there Salary could double if they go for a transfer, Adam for example is 26 years old and could be put out the game for ever in 1 season by a miss timed tackle not that anyone would wish it on him but he will get a percentage of the Transfer fee, a Signing on fee and 2 million for 1 year for Playing which would set him up for life.

We are all shocked to think that a 1/3 of the Team could be playing for Liverpool next season and I cannot remember any Club losing 3 world class Players from the same Club to go to another Club before the start of the next season its horrible The ambitions of the Southampton FC are still on track and why should it change but they will have to raise the Wage structure to be on level plane and compete with the other top Clubs or they will forever lose Players if they go from good to very good to world class.
IMO Potchettino's profile has dropped and shocked all the Supporters and possibly the Board never suspected it and were the last to know he wanted to leave, Les Reed said a few weeks ago he spoke to Potchettino every day and may not of smelt a Rat that Potchettino was insincere and dishonest when planning for the end of the season and next season, I think Cortese and the Players knew, nobody else.

We must be patient and Support our Cub to the hilt to wait for the changes and not undermined the Board, some of it is out of there hands, Ralph may have to gift of the gab but we can always dissect and believe some of what he says or all it's our choice, the most important thing is we all want the best for our Club and I'm sure we will not get Micky Mouse Players and Micky Mouse organisation, let us all give credit to the Board and be optimistic, I'm sure it won't be long before we know who's in and who's out, the sooner the better .
I totally agree with Matt and the very good comments by Shareholder, I do not agree with Sammy2sheds because members of the Board are not fick and stoopid if they were with no disrespect they'd be sweeping Roads or cleaning Public Toilets . It hurts every Supporter when there favourite Player or Players leaves there Club and as Shareholder put it's not possible to stop any Player wanting to increase there Bank Account we all know Contracts are worthless, Players will not give a 2nd thought if they know there Salary could double if they go for a transfer, Adam for example is 26 years old and could be put out the game for ever in 1 season by a miss timed tackle not that anyone would wish it on him but he will get a percentage of the Transfer fee, a Signing on fee and 2 million for 1 year for Playing which would set him up for life. We are all shocked to think that a 1/3 of the Team could be playing for Liverpool next season and I cannot remember any Club losing 3 world class Players from the same Club to go to another Club before the start of the next season its horrible The ambitions of the Southampton FC are still on track and why should it change but they will have to raise the Wage structure to be on level plane and compete with the other top Clubs or they will forever lose Players if they go from good to very good to world class. IMO Potchettino's profile has dropped and shocked all the Supporters and possibly the Board never suspected it and were the last to know he wanted to leave, Les Reed said a few weeks ago he spoke to Potchettino every day and may not of smelt a Rat that Potchettino was insincere and dishonest when planning for the end of the season and next season, I think Cortese and the Players knew, nobody else. We must be patient and Support our Cub to the hilt to wait for the changes and not undermined the Board, some of it is out of there hands, Ralph may have to gift of the gab but we can always dissect and believe some of what he says or all it's our choice, the most important thing is we all want the best for our Club and I'm sure we will not get Micky Mouse Players and Micky Mouse organisation, let us all give credit to the Board and be optimistic, I'm sure it won't be long before we know who's in and who's out, the sooner the better . Malcombe
  • Score: 4

1:25pm Sat 31 May 14

ewell says...

Matt as you have always said the hardest job in football is to score goals. Saints have just got rid of there only regular goalscorer who doesn't have a long term injury for the paltry sum of 3 million pounds after Bristol Rovers rightly get their cut. I would love to know where we will replace a Premier League 10 goal and assist a season man with 3 million quid. That's great business. WELL DONE SFC.
Matt as you have always said the hardest job in football is to score goals. Saints have just got rid of there only regular goalscorer who doesn't have a long term injury for the paltry sum of 3 million pounds after Bristol Rovers rightly get their cut. I would love to know where we will replace a Premier League 10 goal and assist a season man with 3 million quid. That's great business. WELL DONE SFC. ewell
  • Score: 1

1:45pm Sat 31 May 14

bullsbags says...

Makes me laugh
If anyone disagrees with what MLT SAID ITS THUMBS DOWN
I bet most of them still have a curled cornered poster of him on their bedroom wall
Time will tell but we are all entitled to an opinion!
Makes me laugh If anyone disagrees with what MLT SAID ITS THUMBS DOWN I bet most of them still have a curled cornered poster of him on their bedroom wall Time will tell but we are all entitled to an opinion! bullsbags
  • Score: -1

2:11pm Sat 31 May 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

bullsbags wrote:
Makes me laugh
If anyone disagrees with what MLT SAID ITS THUMBS DOWN
I bet most of them still have a curled cornered poster of him on their bedroom wall
Time will tell but we are all entitled to an opinion!
And most of the Thumbs up and Down system is distorted by WUMS and SKUNTS and RIVAL FANS etc

Post what you WANT. COYR
[quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: Makes me laugh If anyone disagrees with what MLT SAID ITS THUMBS DOWN I bet most of them still have a curled cornered poster of him on their bedroom wall Time will tell but we are all entitled to an opinion![/p][/quote]And most of the Thumbs up and Down system is distorted by WUMS and SKUNTS and RIVAL FANS etc Post what you WANT. COYR The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 4

3:37pm Sat 31 May 14

saintbobby says...

saint Compo wrote:
InThatNumber wrote:
These are Sky bets latest odds
Next Permanent Southampton Manager
Next Permanent Manager
Ronald Koeman 11/10
Steve McClaren 6/1
Murat Yakin 8/1
Michael Laudrup 9/1
Sean Dyche 10/1
David Moyes 10/1
Roberto Mancini 14/1
Neil Lennon 16/1
Eddie Howe 18/1
Malky Mackay 25/1
Oscar Garcia 25/1
Thomas Tuchel 33/1
Paul Clement 33/1
Frank de Boer 40/1
Dan Petrescu 40/1
Roberto Di Matteo 40/1
Remi Garde 40/1
Rafa Benitez 40/1
Steve Clarke 40/1
Gus Poyet 50/1
Claudio Ranieri 50/1
Tony Pulis 66/1
Ralf Rangnick 66/1
Slaven Bilic 66/1
Frank Rijkaard 66/1
Massimiliano Allegri 66/1
Uwe Rosler 66/1
Tim Sherwood 66/1
Andre Villas-Boas 66/1
Glenn Hoddle 66/1
Jorge Jesus 66/1
Unai Emery 66/1
Nigel Adkins 80/1
Pepe Mel 80/1
Marian Pahars 80/1
Thomas Schaaf 80/1
Quique Sanchez Flores 80/1
Zinedine Zidane 100/1
Harry Redknapp 100/1
Tata Martino 100/1
Matt Le Tissier 100/1
Nigel Clough 100/1

Hope Ronald Koeman gets the nod
Koeman doesn't have a very good record as a manger. He's managed a number of big clubs in Europe but only quite briefly before moving on under a bit of a cloud.

I'm not convinced he's the best choice.

COYR
I know some are not keen, but I really would like someone who knows the PL and either Moyes or Benitez fits that bill.

The problem is not those here who do not agree, and I respect those who do not, but if either of these guys would actually agree to sign up. Just think, they do know their way around and have had some good results

Rafa's appointment at Chelski was under a cloud right away and Moyes, with a good 10-12 year record at Everton, just did not get the dressing room behind him from the word go. Both these last PL appointments were really tough in the event and I am sure both would want to do a good job, and what's more, for everyone to see they did a good job.

Can I ask just how much do you guys know about these continental names? Amongst most of the comments it seems successes were low key or many got the sack! I plead total ignorance about any of them and that's why Rafa or David M would get my vote.

Should be grateful for explanations if I am considered to be wrong on this.

But one thing where no one will argue is that we do really need a quick appointment. This is a good job and with the academy in support, a wonderful opportunity.
[quote][p][bold]saint Compo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InThatNumber[/bold] wrote: These are Sky bets latest odds Next Permanent Southampton Manager Next Permanent Manager Ronald Koeman 11/10 Steve McClaren 6/1 Murat Yakin 8/1 Michael Laudrup 9/1 Sean Dyche 10/1 David Moyes 10/1 Roberto Mancini 14/1 Neil Lennon 16/1 Eddie Howe 18/1 Malky Mackay 25/1 Oscar Garcia 25/1 Thomas Tuchel 33/1 Paul Clement 33/1 Frank de Boer 40/1 Dan Petrescu 40/1 Roberto Di Matteo 40/1 Remi Garde 40/1 Rafa Benitez 40/1 Steve Clarke 40/1 Gus Poyet 50/1 Claudio Ranieri 50/1 Tony Pulis 66/1 Ralf Rangnick 66/1 Slaven Bilic 66/1 Frank Rijkaard 66/1 Massimiliano Allegri 66/1 Uwe Rosler 66/1 Tim Sherwood 66/1 Andre Villas-Boas 66/1 Glenn Hoddle 66/1 Jorge Jesus 66/1 Unai Emery 66/1 Nigel Adkins 80/1 Pepe Mel 80/1 Marian Pahars 80/1 Thomas Schaaf 80/1 Quique Sanchez Flores 80/1 Zinedine Zidane 100/1 Harry Redknapp 100/1 Tata Martino 100/1 Matt Le Tissier 100/1 Nigel Clough 100/1 Hope Ronald Koeman gets the nod[/p][/quote]Koeman doesn't have a very good record as a manger. He's managed a number of big clubs in Europe but only quite briefly before moving on under a bit of a cloud. I'm not convinced he's the best choice. COYR[/p][/quote]I know some are not keen, but I really would like someone who knows the PL and either Moyes or Benitez fits that bill. The problem is not those here who do not agree, and I respect those who do not, but if either of these guys would actually agree to sign up. Just think, they do know their way around and have had some good results Rafa's appointment at Chelski was under a cloud right away and Moyes, with a good 10-12 year record at Everton, just did not get the dressing room behind him from the word go. Both these last PL appointments were really tough in the event and I am sure both would want to do a good job, and what's more, for everyone to see they did a good job. Can I ask just how much do you guys know about these continental names? Amongst most of the comments it seems successes were low key or many got the sack! I plead total ignorance about any of them and that's why Rafa or David M would get my vote. Should be grateful for explanations if I am considered to be wrong on this. But one thing where no one will argue is that we do really need a quick appointment. This is a good job and with the academy in support, a wonderful opportunity. saintbobby
  • Score: 2

3:41pm Sat 31 May 14

saintbobby says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
bullsbags wrote:
Makes me laugh
If anyone disagrees with what MLT SAID ITS THUMBS DOWN
I bet most of them still have a curled cornered poster of him on their bedroom wall
Time will tell but we are all entitled to an opinion!
And most of the Thumbs up and Down system is distorted by WUMS and SKUNTS and RIVAL FANS etc

Post what you WANT. COYR
Forgot to mention in my 3.37 pm post how much I enjoyed LeGod's comments. That should have calmed a lot of minds and hearts. Certainly means I am going to enjoy my tea and cake in a minute!!
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: Makes me laugh If anyone disagrees with what MLT SAID ITS THUMBS DOWN I bet most of them still have a curled cornered poster of him on their bedroom wall Time will tell but we are all entitled to an opinion![/p][/quote]And most of the Thumbs up and Down system is distorted by WUMS and SKUNTS and RIVAL FANS etc Post what you WANT. COYR[/p][/quote]Forgot to mention in my 3.37 pm post how much I enjoyed LeGod's comments. That should have calmed a lot of minds and hearts. Certainly means I am going to enjoy my tea and cake in a minute!! saintbobby
  • Score: 4

4:01pm Sat 31 May 14

Jonny Maths says...

when are people going to realise that we need a manager who will stay with the club for 3,4,5 plus years.... its THAT which is important..... A manager who buys into that journey.... and has experience with blooding players who have come up through a club academy structure... Koeman is the obvious choice. He would be in no hurry to leave , would be able to form a team playing the dutch way ( which is like the MoPo way only with less headless-chicken activity and more goals ) and would be able to draw on experience more relevant to the type of success we need.
when are people going to realise that we need a manager who will stay with the club for 3,4,5 plus years.... its THAT which is important..... A manager who buys into that journey.... and has experience with blooding players who have come up through a club academy structure... Koeman is the obvious choice. He would be in no hurry to leave , would be able to form a team playing the dutch way ( which is like the MoPo way only with less headless-chicken activity and more goals ) and would be able to draw on experience more relevant to the type of success we need. Jonny Maths
  • Score: 0

4:09pm Sat 31 May 14

St. Case says...

Shareholder wrote:
Well said Matt! Some people need to get real. Firstly you can't blame the Board for Pochettino leaving; it's quite clear he was determined to leave, probably sinceJanuary. He basically did the dirty on the club, the players and is fans. Secondly every player had a right to be told when an official bid for them is ttabled; under the circumstances it is not surprising that Lambert decided he wanted to go to Liverpool. As for Lallana what if he too had decided to leave? Had it occurred to anyone that might be the case? Is that the board's fault? These days it's hard for ANY club to stop a player if he wants to leave. Arsenal couldn't stop Fabregas, United couldn't stop Ronaldo and likewise Bale at Spurs. In those cases you bite the bullet and get the most you can. That's What's happened with Lambert and it may well be the case with Lallana. But I don't see people chucking stones at them. And people demanding the Board be sacked are living on another planet. Only the owner can do that and she's hardly likely to. And so far there's no evidence they warrant it. They haven't sold anyone and have said time and again Europe remains the goal. And if the likes of Koeman and Yakin want to come then they must be doing something right. These are managers with better track records than Pochettino so we can look forward to more positive moves in the next few weeks. So let's ol follow Matt's example, stay calm and back the club. And if any player demands to leave let's blame them and their greedy agents as much as anyone else. Personally I'm looking forward to the coming season. And I'd much rather be where we are than where we were before the Liebherrs came in - let's just remember that.
How can you say he did the dirty on the club? He could have left with NC in January, but decided to stay. It helped Saints to a joint best PL position. Tottenham paid compensation for taking MP, and that's how it works. Obviously we wanted him to stay, but it's funny how the same people are so fast to call him a traitor or worse after he left. We'll get a new manager, and life will go on as usual...
[quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Well said Matt! Some people need to get real. Firstly you can't blame the Board for Pochettino leaving; it's quite clear he was determined to leave, probably sinceJanuary. He basically did the dirty on the club, the players and is fans. Secondly every player had a right to be told when an official bid for them is ttabled; under the circumstances it is not surprising that Lambert decided he wanted to go to Liverpool. As for Lallana what if he too had decided to leave? Had it occurred to anyone that might be the case? Is that the board's fault? These days it's hard for ANY club to stop a player if he wants to leave. Arsenal couldn't stop Fabregas, United couldn't stop Ronaldo and likewise Bale at Spurs. In those cases you bite the bullet and get the most you can. That's What's happened with Lambert and it may well be the case with Lallana. But I don't see people chucking stones at them. And people demanding the Board be sacked are living on another planet. Only the owner can do that and she's hardly likely to. And so far there's no evidence they warrant it. They haven't sold anyone and have said time and again Europe remains the goal. And if the likes of Koeman and Yakin want to come then they must be doing something right. These are managers with better track records than Pochettino so we can look forward to more positive moves in the next few weeks. So let's ol follow Matt's example, stay calm and back the club. And if any player demands to leave let's blame them and their greedy agents as much as anyone else. Personally I'm looking forward to the coming season. And I'd much rather be where we are than where we were before the Liebherrs came in - let's just remember that.[/p][/quote]How can you say he did the dirty on the club? He could have left with NC in January, but decided to stay. It helped Saints to a joint best PL position. Tottenham paid compensation for taking MP, and that's how it works. Obviously we wanted him to stay, but it's funny how the same people are so fast to call him a traitor or worse after he left. We'll get a new manager, and life will go on as usual... St. Case
  • Score: 0

4:40pm Sat 31 May 14

boilerman says...

ShanoBrizzy wrote:
I agree with Mat, crikey I'd vote him for PM!... I can accept that 3 players max leaving the Club won't setback Saints.. anymore than that and it gets dicey.. Example, If Lallana 25M, Shaw 30M and Lambert 5M all go, Saints will have say 60M plus probably another 20M from the tv and prize money to spend.. I'd be happy to see 60M or the rest of that go back to the club, clear the debts and used for infrastuctre investment and something for the owners.. The fans get a new Mgr with 80M to spend.. Given that we can probably accept our Keepers as is for another season.. (Boruc is world class on his day.), With 80M the new Mgr should be able to get 4 quality Europe level players, a CB, LB, winger (on the assumption, Spider, Wanyaman and Cork all stay) and a new goalscorer.. The kids will be good backup until JayRod returns.. Go Saints!
True, but with Reeds history of wasting money on average players we will probably end up spending it all on about 5 or 6 players that never get a game.
[quote][p][bold]ShanoBrizzy[/bold] wrote: I agree with Mat, crikey I'd vote him for PM!... I can accept that 3 players max leaving the Club won't setback Saints.. anymore than that and it gets dicey.. Example, If Lallana 25M, Shaw 30M and Lambert 5M all go, Saints will have say 60M plus probably another 20M from the tv and prize money to spend.. I'd be happy to see 60M or the rest of that go back to the club, clear the debts and used for infrastuctre investment and something for the owners.. The fans get a new Mgr with 80M to spend.. Given that we can probably accept our Keepers as is for another season.. (Boruc is world class on his day.), With 80M the new Mgr should be able to get 4 quality Europe level players, a CB, LB, winger (on the assumption, Spider, Wanyaman and Cork all stay) and a new goalscorer.. The kids will be good backup until JayRod returns.. Go Saints![/p][/quote]True, but with Reeds history of wasting money on average players we will probably end up spending it all on about 5 or 6 players that never get a game. boilerman
  • Score: 1

5:05pm Sat 31 May 14

yellowcard says...

pitbull wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
The trouble is Ralph and les haven't got a clue
Matts plan is get a manager to stop players leaving then sign a striker,quite a simple plan.lets see if the board can follow it.
For the board not to see pochs exit coming is falling asleep at the wheel in my book.reaction management,wait for it to happen then try and do something about it.say what you like about cortese but he would never have fallen for pochs stalling game.he would have had his replacement ready to go.is Ralph back from watching the first team? I mean u19s.
If he is then there is a lot of "exciting challenges" waiting for him.
Perhaps it was the previous chairman that helped the previous manager to plan his departure.
Then the previous chairman says "It wouldn't of happened if I was still at the club"
Just trying to get one over Katarina and the new Board, divide the fan base.

Both the previous chairman and manager had the choice to stay with Saints, they both walked out on us. So much for having Saints in their heart.
It was the previous chairman who enabled poch to leave. What more could the board have done he had it written in his contract that he could leave if he paid 2 million well the yids gave him the money.well said matt and shareholder
[quote][p][bold]pitbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: The trouble is Ralph and les haven't got a clue Matts plan is get a manager to stop players leaving then sign a striker,quite a simple plan.lets see if the board can follow it. For the board not to see pochs exit coming is falling asleep at the wheel in my book.reaction management,wait for it to happen then try and do something about it.say what you like about cortese but he would never have fallen for pochs stalling game.he would have had his replacement ready to go.is Ralph back from watching the first team? I mean u19s. If he is then there is a lot of "exciting challenges" waiting for him.[/p][/quote]Perhaps it was the previous chairman that helped the previous manager to plan his departure. Then the previous chairman says "It wouldn't of happened if I was still at the club" Just trying to get one over Katarina and the new Board, divide the fan base. Both the previous chairman and manager had the choice to stay with Saints, they both walked out on us. So much for having Saints in their heart.[/p][/quote]It was the previous chairman who enabled poch to leave. What more could the board have done he had it written in his contract that he could leave if he paid 2 million well the yids gave him the money.well said matt and shareholder yellowcard
  • Score: 2

5:11pm Sat 31 May 14

saintofatheism says...

This thread is a tad bit more positive. The board has not let anybody down. Ricky's departure was than expectable as he's getting older and I think he deserves a move to his dream club. The rest so far has just been offers but at no point did any one state they where being accepted. I think some of the echo boards are littered with intruders disguised as saints fans to stir. They have stated that our assets will not be sold, only under the supervision of mr Reed. No assets have yet been sold. Just under performing players and one that is close to retirement. Managers come and go. There will be a replacement soon I am sure. The only panic is coming from armchair fans and Pompey in disguise. Chill the hell out. Stop reading rumours from crappy sites and don't assume that you have any knowledge of what's going on behind the scenes....because you don't.
This thread is a tad bit more positive. The board has not let anybody down. Ricky's departure was than expectable as he's getting older and I think he deserves a move to his dream club. The rest so far has just been offers but at no point did any one state they where being accepted. I think some of the echo boards are littered with intruders disguised as saints fans to stir. They have stated that our assets will not be sold, only under the supervision of mr Reed. No assets have yet been sold. Just under performing players and one that is close to retirement. Managers come and go. There will be a replacement soon I am sure. The only panic is coming from armchair fans and Pompey in disguise. Chill the hell out. Stop reading rumours from crappy sites and don't assume that you have any knowledge of what's going on behind the scenes....because you don't. saintofatheism
  • Score: 2

5:15pm Sat 31 May 14

yellowcard says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Well said Matt! Some people need to get real. Firstly you can't blame the Board for Pochettino leaving; it's quite clear he was determined to leave, probably sinceJanuary. He basically did the dirty on the club, the players and is fans. Secondly every player had a right to be told when an official bid for them is ttabled; under the circumstances it is not surprising that Lambert decided he wanted to go to Liverpool. As for Lallana what if he too had decided to leave? Had it occurred to anyone that might be the case? Is that the board's fault? These days it's hard for ANY club to stop a player if he wants to leave. Arsenal couldn't stop Fabregas, United couldn't stop Ronaldo and likewise Bale at Spurs. In those cases you bite the bullet and get the most you can. That's What's happened with Lambert and it may well be the case with Lallana. But I don't see people chucking stones at them. And people demanding the Board be sacked are living on another planet. Only the owner can do that and she's hardly likely to. And so far there's no evidence they warrant it. They haven't sold anyone and have said time and again Europe remains the goal. And if the likes of Koeman and Yakin want to come then they must be doing something right. These are managers with better track records than Pochettino so we can look forward to more positive moves in the next few weeks. So let's ol follow Matt's example, stay calm and back the club. And if any player demands to leave let's blame them and their greedy agents as much as anyone else. Personally I'm looking forward to the coming season. And I'd much rather be where we are than where we were before the Liebherrs came in - let's just remember that.
Fair one - but SFC are not a benevolent society or a CHARITY.

THE BOARD SHOULD HAVE SAID NO TO THE SALE OF LAMBERT.

I do not accept the wishy washy emotional arguments - he was a professional footballer who was well liked by fans and would have contined to deliver for this Club.

There is pressure growing not to sell any more Players and start adding to our light squad.

Every Premiership Game is tough and you need exceptional players to progress - with the departure of lambert we are heading in the wrong direction

The only good bit of business was done by liverpool. Why become a feeder club when we want to progress ourselves.

It all smacks of a lack of leadership and joined up Vision.
But you expect kat to be charitable and put her hand in her pocket
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Well said Matt! Some people need to get real. Firstly you can't blame the Board for Pochettino leaving; it's quite clear he was determined to leave, probably sinceJanuary. He basically did the dirty on the club, the players and is fans. Secondly every player had a right to be told when an official bid for them is ttabled; under the circumstances it is not surprising that Lambert decided he wanted to go to Liverpool. As for Lallana what if he too had decided to leave? Had it occurred to anyone that might be the case? Is that the board's fault? These days it's hard for ANY club to stop a player if he wants to leave. Arsenal couldn't stop Fabregas, United couldn't stop Ronaldo and likewise Bale at Spurs. In those cases you bite the bullet and get the most you can. That's What's happened with Lambert and it may well be the case with Lallana. But I don't see people chucking stones at them. And people demanding the Board be sacked are living on another planet. Only the owner can do that and she's hardly likely to. And so far there's no evidence they warrant it. They haven't sold anyone and have said time and again Europe remains the goal. And if the likes of Koeman and Yakin want to come then they must be doing something right. These are managers with better track records than Pochettino so we can look forward to more positive moves in the next few weeks. So let's ol follow Matt's example, stay calm and back the club. And if any player demands to leave let's blame them and their greedy agents as much as anyone else. Personally I'm looking forward to the coming season. And I'd much rather be where we are than where we were before the Liebherrs came in - let's just remember that.[/p][/quote]Fair one - but SFC are not a benevolent society or a CHARITY. THE BOARD SHOULD HAVE SAID NO TO THE SALE OF LAMBERT. I do not accept the wishy washy emotional arguments - he was a professional footballer who was well liked by fans and would have contined to deliver for this Club. There is pressure growing not to sell any more Players and start adding to our light squad. Every Premiership Game is tough and you need exceptional players to progress - with the departure of lambert we are heading in the wrong direction The only good bit of business was done by liverpool. Why become a feeder club when we want to progress ourselves. It all smacks of a lack of leadership and joined up Vision.[/p][/quote]But you expect kat to be charitable and put her hand in her pocket yellowcard
  • Score: 0

6:05pm Sat 31 May 14

teddrake says...

Shareholder wrote:
Well said Matt! Some people need to get real. Firstly you can't blame the Board for Pochettino leaving; it's quite clear he was determined to leave, probably sinceJanuary. He basically did the dirty on the club, the players and is fans. Secondly every player had a right to be told when an official bid for them is ttabled; under the circumstances it is not surprising that Lambert decided he wanted to go to Liverpool. As for Lallana what if he too had decided to leave? Had it occurred to anyone that might be the case? Is that the board's fault? These days it's hard for ANY club to stop a player if he wants to leave. Arsenal couldn't stop Fabregas, United couldn't stop Ronaldo and likewise Bale at Spurs. In those cases you bite the bullet and get the most you can. That's What's happened with Lambert and it may well be the case with Lallana. But I don't see people chucking stones at them. And people demanding the Board be sacked are living on another planet. Only the owner can do that and she's hardly likely to. And so far there's no evidence they warrant it. They haven't sold anyone and have said time and again Europe remains the goal. And if the likes of Koeman and Yakin want to come then they must be doing something right. These are managers with better track records than Pochettino so we can look forward to more positive moves in the next few weeks. So let's ol follow Matt's example, stay calm and back the club. And if any player demands to leave let's blame them and their greedy agents as much as anyone else. Personally I'm looking forward to the coming season. And I'd much rather be where we are than where we were before the Liebherrs came in - let's just remember that.
A very good post Shareholder. It's refreshing to hear a reasoned, common sense view of what is happening at the moment. Such a view doesn't mean being unemotional or not feeling aggrieved (or aSt-Johned) about players and managers leaving. As you say Shareholder, Pochettino knew he wanted to leave and did - but we shouldn't blame him. He built on the great work done by Nigel Adkins, which resulted in one of the best Saints teams there has ever been (if not the best). He could, of course, have said before the end of the season, "I want to leave at the end of the season and I'm hoping that Spurs offer me a job" - but is that likely and would anyone in his place have done the same thing in a similar situation? As for Rickie leaving, I don't think that anyone would begrudge him this opportunity to play for the club he supported as a kid, after having been such a hero for us. Similarly, Adam Lalllana has been a model of loyalty to this club since joining and why should we hold it against him if he takes the opportunity to move so that he can play CL football? (though if he went to Tottinghampton (as they slowly transform into us (Chivers, Hoddle, Bale, Pochettino, our song etc.) that would be harder to swallow) I think that just as Rickie joined us from another club and became a legend, I am confident that this board (who are actually very astute and winners - in business and sport - with admirable values) will pick a great manager, who will find a brilliant, future Saints legend and next season we will be pushing for a European spot. It's going to be difficult, but remember the words of the great King Henry V, after leaving for the Agincourt campaign from Southampton (on a prototype Townsend Thoreson ferry*), 'For God, for Matty and St George...!!" The future is bright COYR!!! (OK - a little bit of emotion is OK)

*an historical footnote - he actually left his passport behind, which was found by a schoolboy, who walked to London (not North London) and tried (successfully) to impersonate the King, Managing to pass a royal decree that strawberries (which were something of a luxury at the time) should be dished out on demand in the summer months to anyone under the age of 10, providing they had ginger hair (which would, of course mean that if that law were still in existence today, it would exclude Harrison Reed, who would be too old (despite his comparative youth).
[quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Well said Matt! Some people need to get real. Firstly you can't blame the Board for Pochettino leaving; it's quite clear he was determined to leave, probably sinceJanuary. He basically did the dirty on the club, the players and is fans. Secondly every player had a right to be told when an official bid for them is ttabled; under the circumstances it is not surprising that Lambert decided he wanted to go to Liverpool. As for Lallana what if he too had decided to leave? Had it occurred to anyone that might be the case? Is that the board's fault? These days it's hard for ANY club to stop a player if he wants to leave. Arsenal couldn't stop Fabregas, United couldn't stop Ronaldo and likewise Bale at Spurs. In those cases you bite the bullet and get the most you can. That's What's happened with Lambert and it may well be the case with Lallana. But I don't see people chucking stones at them. And people demanding the Board be sacked are living on another planet. Only the owner can do that and she's hardly likely to. And so far there's no evidence they warrant it. They haven't sold anyone and have said time and again Europe remains the goal. And if the likes of Koeman and Yakin want to come then they must be doing something right. These are managers with better track records than Pochettino so we can look forward to more positive moves in the next few weeks. So let's ol follow Matt's example, stay calm and back the club. And if any player demands to leave let's blame them and their greedy agents as much as anyone else. Personally I'm looking forward to the coming season. And I'd much rather be where we are than where we were before the Liebherrs came in - let's just remember that.[/p][/quote]A very good post Shareholder. It's refreshing to hear a reasoned, common sense view of what is happening at the moment. Such a view doesn't mean being unemotional or not feeling aggrieved (or aSt-Johned) about players and managers leaving. As you say Shareholder, Pochettino knew he wanted to leave and did - but we shouldn't blame him. He built on the great work done by Nigel Adkins, which resulted in one of the best Saints teams there has ever been (if not the best). He could, of course, have said before the end of the season, "I want to leave at the end of the season and I'm hoping that Spurs offer me a job" - but is that likely and would anyone in his place have done the same thing in a similar situation? As for Rickie leaving, I don't think that anyone would begrudge him this opportunity to play for the club he supported as a kid, after having been such a hero for us. Similarly, Adam Lalllana has been a model of loyalty to this club since joining and why should we hold it against him if he takes the opportunity to move so that he can play CL football? (though if he went to Tottinghampton (as they slowly transform into us (Chivers, Hoddle, Bale, Pochettino, our song etc.) that would be harder to swallow) I think that just as Rickie joined us from another club and became a legend, I am confident that this board (who are actually very astute and winners - in business and sport - with admirable values) will pick a great manager, who will find a brilliant, future Saints legend and next season we will be pushing for a European spot. It's going to be difficult, but remember the words of the great King Henry V, after leaving for the Agincourt campaign from Southampton (on a prototype Townsend Thoreson ferry*), 'For God, for Matty and St George...!!" The future is bright COYR!!! (OK - a little bit of emotion is OK) *an historical footnote - he actually left his passport behind, which was found by a schoolboy, who walked to London (not North London) and tried (successfully) to impersonate the King, Managing to pass a royal decree that strawberries (which were something of a luxury at the time) should be dished out on demand in the summer months to anyone under the age of 10, providing they had ginger hair (which would, of course mean that if that law were still in existence today, it would exclude Harrison Reed, who would be too old (despite his comparative youth). teddrake
  • Score: 3

7:54pm Sat 31 May 14

deepheat says...

Christian Gross is now second favourite to be our next manager. - Laugh Out Feckin Loud - . Manager of Swiss side Young Boys and was sacked at the end of April 2012 after a run of poor results. He hasn't worked since. Please RK just tell us it's not him. I accept we are not going to be playing pretty football next season so do the decent thing and get David Moyes in now .
Christian Gross is now second favourite to be our next manager. - Laugh Out Feckin Loud - . Manager of Swiss side Young Boys and was sacked at the end of April 2012 after a run of poor results. He hasn't worked since. Please RK just tell us it's not him. I accept we are not going to be playing pretty football next season so do the decent thing and get David Moyes in now . deepheat
  • Score: 2

8:09pm Sat 31 May 14

techsture says...

Only Moyes will do. DO IT.
Only Moyes will do. DO IT. techsture
  • Score: -4

8:59pm Sat 31 May 14

peregrine73 says...

Kings Lynn Saint wrote:
Not sure if this has already been said but here's my thoughts.

We get a decent exiting manager in (like Yakin or Koeman) who signs a decent striker to replace Rickie.

Next (worse case scenario) we DID sell Shaw AND Lallana for about £60M. We have Clyne and Targett to replace Shaw, and a player called Gastom Ramirez who can play the Lallana role.

We then have £60M plus what else the board offer for transfers. That should be enough to purchase the players we need in the positions we need.

I agree with Matt. Everyone calm down, have faith and trust in the club and the board, and support the Saints.
What about Lovren, and Jay rod ?,there on the exit list as sell.
[quote][p][bold]Kings Lynn Saint[/bold] wrote: Not sure if this has already been said but here's my thoughts. We get a decent exiting manager in (like Yakin or Koeman) who signs a decent striker to replace Rickie. Next (worse case scenario) we DID sell Shaw AND Lallana for about £60M. We have Clyne and Targett to replace Shaw, and a player called Gastom Ramirez who can play the Lallana role. We then have £60M plus what else the board offer for transfers. That should be enough to purchase the players we need in the positions we need. I agree with Matt. Everyone calm down, have faith and trust in the club and the board, and support the Saints.[/p][/quote]What about Lovren, and Jay rod ?,there on the exit list as sell. peregrine73
  • Score: 0

9:48pm Sat 31 May 14

Santa Retfordia says...

techsture wrote:
Only Moyes will do. DO IT.
You know that beautiful, high-pressing, high-tempo, attack-minded football that Saints lit up the premier league with last season? Well David Moyes is the exact opposite of that. I don't want him anywhere near our club.
[quote][p][bold]techsture[/bold] wrote: Only Moyes will do. DO IT.[/p][/quote]You know that beautiful, high-pressing, high-tempo, attack-minded football that Saints lit up the premier league with last season? Well David Moyes is the exact opposite of that. I don't want him anywhere near our club. Santa Retfordia
  • Score: 4

10:30pm Sat 31 May 14

Emsworthsaint says...

Shareholder wrote:
Well said Matt! Some people need to get real. Firstly you can't blame the Board for Pochettino leaving; it's quite clear he was determined to leave, probably sinceJanuary. He basically did the dirty on the club, the players and is fans. Secondly every player had a right to be told when an official bid for them is ttabled; under the circumstances it is not surprising that Lambert decided he wanted to go to Liverpool. As for Lallana what if he too had decided to leave? Had it occurred to anyone that might be the case? Is that the board's fault? These days it's hard for ANY club to stop a player if he wants to leave. Arsenal couldn't stop Fabregas, United couldn't stop Ronaldo and likewise Bale at Spurs. In those cases you bite the bullet and get the most you can. That's What's happened with Lambert and it may well be the case with Lallana. But I don't see people chucking stones at them. And people demanding the Board be sacked are living on another planet. Only the owner can do that and she's hardly likely to. And so far there's no evidence they warrant it. They haven't sold anyone and have said time and again Europe remains the goal. And if the likes of Koeman and Yakin want to come then they must be doing something right. These are managers with better track records than Pochettino so we can look forward to more positive moves in the next few weeks. So let's ol follow Matt's example, stay calm and back the club. And if any player demands to leave let's blame them and their greedy agents as much as anyone else. Personally I'm looking forward to the coming season. And I'd much rather be where we are than where we were before the Liebherrs came in - let's just remember that.
The only point I would make about the Lambert move is why didn't we demand Borini as part of the deal ? He has just returned from loan and is a special talent
[quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Well said Matt! Some people need to get real. Firstly you can't blame the Board for Pochettino leaving; it's quite clear he was determined to leave, probably sinceJanuary. He basically did the dirty on the club, the players and is fans. Secondly every player had a right to be told when an official bid for them is ttabled; under the circumstances it is not surprising that Lambert decided he wanted to go to Liverpool. As for Lallana what if he too had decided to leave? Had it occurred to anyone that might be the case? Is that the board's fault? These days it's hard for ANY club to stop a player if he wants to leave. Arsenal couldn't stop Fabregas, United couldn't stop Ronaldo and likewise Bale at Spurs. In those cases you bite the bullet and get the most you can. That's What's happened with Lambert and it may well be the case with Lallana. But I don't see people chucking stones at them. And people demanding the Board be sacked are living on another planet. Only the owner can do that and she's hardly likely to. And so far there's no evidence they warrant it. They haven't sold anyone and have said time and again Europe remains the goal. And if the likes of Koeman and Yakin want to come then they must be doing something right. These are managers with better track records than Pochettino so we can look forward to more positive moves in the next few weeks. So let's ol follow Matt's example, stay calm and back the club. And if any player demands to leave let's blame them and their greedy agents as much as anyone else. Personally I'm looking forward to the coming season. And I'd much rather be where we are than where we were before the Liebherrs came in - let's just remember that.[/p][/quote]The only point I would make about the Lambert move is why didn't we demand Borini as part of the deal ? He has just returned from loan and is a special talent Emsworthsaint
  • Score: 1

10:39pm Sat 31 May 14

echo1948 says...

What a refreshing artical by MLT.He was one of a dead breed of footballers, a one club man, who had oppertunities to move to a "Big" club but chose to stay with Saints, a team he loved.There is alot of sense in what he says.It is not the end of the world if two or three players move on,providing the transfer money is ploughed back into the club to buy higher calibre players.So lets just hang on a minute,see who is appointed as new manager, and give the board the benefit of the doubt for now.
What a refreshing artical by MLT.He was one of a dead breed of footballers, a one club man, who had oppertunities to move to a "Big" club but chose to stay with Saints, a team he loved.There is alot of sense in what he says.It is not the end of the world if two or three players move on,providing the transfer money is ploughed back into the club to buy higher calibre players.So lets just hang on a minute,see who is appointed as new manager, and give the board the benefit of the doubt for now. echo1948
  • Score: 0

12:45am Sun 1 Jun 14

St. Case says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
RESPECT TO MATT FOR HIS LOYALTY.

The Honorary title should be his. Rickie is stripped of SRL and although a favourite of mine - once he crossed the dotted line to join the liverpoooooool scum - he has committed his future to the bench

He sits on the bench - he sits on the bench ch
All Ricke Lambert does is sit on the bench.

If we had got a Top striker - Rickie was also part of our plan to progress.

IF SHAW OR LALLANA GO - There will be Posters in the Southampton Pubs ...

WANTED - **** OR ALIVE
LES REED + RALPH KRUEGER
GUILTY OF ASSET STRIPPING SFC.
SACK THE BOARD.

Judas (The Argy) stirred it all up - and got up and left. We know what we are all hoping for with the Spuds and 6 months down the line.

The fuss at the moment Matt is that we are not just asset stripping Players - but GOALS.

Lost Punch - Loss of Lambert - if you lose Lallana - there are no goals left in this Team. (Jrod injured)

ADAM was only AVERAGE last night and did not shine for ENGLAND - saw his clattering tackles - .

LUKE SHAW - the pressure is getting to the young man - with his head cold - at least he was able to keep the bench warm.

LOST ONE LION (rickie) - NEED A SAINTS PLAYER TO STEP UP TO THE SENIOR TEAM TO GET OUR 3 LIONS BACK. (and lose no more players)
What a load of rubbish! Get off the bottle and get a job!
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: RESPECT TO MATT FOR HIS LOYALTY. The Honorary title should be his. Rickie is stripped of SRL and although a favourite of mine - once he crossed the dotted line to join the liverpoooooool scum - he has committed his future to the bench He sits on the bench - he sits on the bench ch All Ricke Lambert does is sit on the bench. If we had got a Top striker - Rickie was also part of our plan to progress. IF SHAW OR LALLANA GO - There will be Posters in the Southampton Pubs ... WANTED - **** OR ALIVE LES REED + RALPH KRUEGER GUILTY OF ASSET STRIPPING SFC. SACK THE BOARD. Judas (The Argy) stirred it all up - and got up and left. We know what we are all hoping for with the Spuds and 6 months down the line. The fuss at the moment Matt is that we are not just asset stripping Players - but GOALS. Lost Punch - Loss of Lambert - if you lose Lallana - there are no goals left in this Team. (Jrod injured) ADAM was only AVERAGE last night and did not shine for ENGLAND - saw his clattering tackles - . LUKE SHAW - the pressure is getting to the young man - with his head cold - at least he was able to keep the bench warm. LOST ONE LION (rickie) - NEED A SAINTS PLAYER TO STEP UP TO THE SENIOR TEAM TO GET OUR 3 LIONS BACK. (and lose no more players)[/p][/quote]What a load of rubbish! Get off the bottle and get a job! St. Case
  • Score: -2

6:51am Sun 1 Jun 14

jls217 says...

St. Case wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
RESPECT TO MATT FOR HIS LOYALTY.

The Honorary title should be his. Rickie is stripped of SRL and although a favourite of mine - once he crossed the dotted line to join the liverpoooooool scum - he has committed his future to the bench

He sits on the bench - he sits on the bench ch
All Ricke Lambert does is sit on the bench.

If we had got a Top striker - Rickie was also part of our plan to progress.

IF SHAW OR LALLANA GO - There will be Posters in the Southampton Pubs ...

WANTED - **** OR ALIVE
LES REED + RALPH KRUEGER
GUILTY OF ASSET STRIPPING SFC.
SACK THE BOARD.

Judas (The Argy) stirred it all up - and got up and left. We know what we are all hoping for with the Spuds and 6 months down the line.

The fuss at the moment Matt is that we are not just asset stripping Players - but GOALS.

Lost Punch - Loss of Lambert - if you lose Lallana - there are no goals left in this Team. (Jrod injured)

ADAM was only AVERAGE last night and did not shine for ENGLAND - saw his clattering tackles - .

LUKE SHAW - the pressure is getting to the young man - with his head cold - at least he was able to keep the bench warm.

LOST ONE LION (rickie) - NEED A SAINTS PLAYER TO STEP UP TO THE SENIOR TEAM TO GET OUR 3 LIONS BACK. (and lose no more players)
What a load of rubbish! Get off the bottle and get a job!
And just how do WE sack the board?

Are you going to use the strength of your shares at the next AGM to vote to oust them? Sorry but I can't use my vote to get rid of anyone 'cos I don't have any shares.

Who's got all the shares then?

IF there is asset stripping going on here and it's a very big if indeed. (But I've been wrong before) Who decides who is on the board/not on the board? Maybe, just maybe the board will instead receive a huge bonus because they are obeying orders as laid down by the shareholder(s)

St Case is right - maybe this morning, once your head clears you'd like to have a re-think of your suggested actions. IF there is sniping to be be done we need to make sure we are aiming at the right target.
The only thing you have right is we need someone to step up to the senior squad (probably more than one) Unfortunately it will not be to get our 3 lions back as before the end of the week we may not have even 1.
[quote][p][bold]St. Case[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: RESPECT TO MATT FOR HIS LOYALTY. The Honorary title should be his. Rickie is stripped of SRL and although a favourite of mine - once he crossed the dotted line to join the liverpoooooool scum - he has committed his future to the bench He sits on the bench - he sits on the bench ch All Ricke Lambert does is sit on the bench. If we had got a Top striker - Rickie was also part of our plan to progress. IF SHAW OR LALLANA GO - There will be Posters in the Southampton Pubs ... WANTED - **** OR ALIVE LES REED + RALPH KRUEGER GUILTY OF ASSET STRIPPING SFC. SACK THE BOARD. Judas (The Argy) stirred it all up - and got up and left. We know what we are all hoping for with the Spuds and 6 months down the line. The fuss at the moment Matt is that we are not just asset stripping Players - but GOALS. Lost Punch - Loss of Lambert - if you lose Lallana - there are no goals left in this Team. (Jrod injured) ADAM was only AVERAGE last night and did not shine for ENGLAND - saw his clattering tackles - . LUKE SHAW - the pressure is getting to the young man - with his head cold - at least he was able to keep the bench warm. LOST ONE LION (rickie) - NEED A SAINTS PLAYER TO STEP UP TO THE SENIOR TEAM TO GET OUR 3 LIONS BACK. (and lose no more players)[/p][/quote]What a load of rubbish! Get off the bottle and get a job![/p][/quote]And just how do WE sack the board? Are you going to use the strength of your shares at the next AGM to vote to oust them? Sorry but I can't use my vote to get rid of anyone 'cos I don't have any shares. Who's got all the shares then? IF there is asset stripping going on here and it's a very big if indeed. (But I've been wrong before) Who decides who is on the board/not on the board? Maybe, just maybe the board will instead receive a huge bonus because they are obeying orders as laid down by the shareholder(s) St Case is right - maybe this morning, once your head clears you'd like to have a re-think of your suggested actions. IF there is sniping to be be done we need to make sure we are aiming at the right target. The only thing you have right is we need someone to step up to the senior squad (probably more than one) Unfortunately it will not be to get our 3 lions back as before the end of the week we may not have even 1. jls217
  • Score: 0

6:53am Sun 1 Jun 14

jls217 says...

St. Case wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
RESPECT TO MATT FOR HIS LOYALTY.

The Honorary title should be his. Rickie is stripped of SRL and although a favourite of mine - once he crossed the dotted line to join the liverpoooooool scum - he has committed his future to the bench

He sits on the bench - he sits on the bench ch
All Ricke Lambert does is sit on the bench.

If we had got a Top striker - Rickie was also part of our plan to progress.

IF SHAW OR LALLANA GO - There will be Posters in the Southampton Pubs ...

WANTED - **** OR ALIVE
LES REED + RALPH KRUEGER
GUILTY OF ASSET STRIPPING SFC.
SACK THE BOARD.

Judas (The Argy) stirred it all up - and got up and left. We know what we are all hoping for with the Spuds and 6 months down the line.

The fuss at the moment Matt is that we are not just asset stripping Players - but GOALS.

Lost Punch - Loss of Lambert - if you lose Lallana - there are no goals left in this Team. (Jrod injured)

ADAM was only AVERAGE last night and did not shine for ENGLAND - saw his clattering tackles - .

LUKE SHAW - the pressure is getting to the young man - with his head cold - at least he was able to keep the bench warm.

LOST ONE LION (rickie) - NEED A SAINTS PLAYER TO STEP UP TO THE SENIOR TEAM TO GET OUR 3 LIONS BACK. (and lose no more players)
What a load of rubbish! Get off the bottle and get a job!
And just how do WE sack the board?

Are you going to use the strength of your shares at the next AGM to vote to oust them? Sorry but I can't use my vote to get rid of anyone 'cos I don't have any shares.

Who's got all the shares then?

IF there is asset stripping going on here and it's a very big if indeed. (But I've been wrong before) Who decides who is on the board/not on the board? Maybe, just maybe the board will instead receive a huge bonus because they are obeying orders as laid down by the shareholder(s)

St Case is right - maybe this morning, once your head clears you'd like to have a re-think of your suggested actions. IF there is sniping to be be done we need to make sure we are aiming at the right target.
The only thing you have right is we need someone to step up to the senior squad (probably more than one) Unfortunately it will not be to get our 3 lions back as before the end of the week we may not have even 1.
[quote][p][bold]St. Case[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: RESPECT TO MATT FOR HIS LOYALTY. The Honorary title should be his. Rickie is stripped of SRL and although a favourite of mine - once he crossed the dotted line to join the liverpoooooool scum - he has committed his future to the bench He sits on the bench - he sits on the bench ch All Ricke Lambert does is sit on the bench. If we had got a Top striker - Rickie was also part of our plan to progress. IF SHAW OR LALLANA GO - There will be Posters in the Southampton Pubs ... WANTED - **** OR ALIVE LES REED + RALPH KRUEGER GUILTY OF ASSET STRIPPING SFC. SACK THE BOARD. Judas (The Argy) stirred it all up - and got up and left. We know what we are all hoping for with the Spuds and 6 months down the line. The fuss at the moment Matt is that we are not just asset stripping Players - but GOALS. Lost Punch - Loss of Lambert - if you lose Lallana - there are no goals left in this Team. (Jrod injured) ADAM was only AVERAGE last night and did not shine for ENGLAND - saw his clattering tackles - . LUKE SHAW - the pressure is getting to the young man - with his head cold - at least he was able to keep the bench warm. LOST ONE LION (rickie) - NEED A SAINTS PLAYER TO STEP UP TO THE SENIOR TEAM TO GET OUR 3 LIONS BACK. (and lose no more players)[/p][/quote]What a load of rubbish! Get off the bottle and get a job![/p][/quote]And just how do WE sack the board? Are you going to use the strength of your shares at the next AGM to vote to oust them? Sorry but I can't use my vote to get rid of anyone 'cos I don't have any shares. Who's got all the shares then? IF there is asset stripping going on here and it's a very big if indeed. (But I've been wrong before) Who decides who is on the board/not on the board? Maybe, just maybe the board will instead receive a huge bonus because they are obeying orders as laid down by the shareholder(s) St Case is right - maybe this morning, once your head clears you'd like to have a re-think of your suggested actions. IF there is sniping to be be done we need to make sure we are aiming at the right target. The only thing you have right is we need someone to step up to the senior squad (probably more than one) Unfortunately it will not be to get our 3 lions back as before the end of the week we may not have even 1. jls217
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7:58am Sun 1 Jun 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

LOL

SIGN ON - SIGN ON - WITH A PEN IN YOUR HAND is for the liverpooooool scum.

Look - Do I think Rickie could have done a job for us this Season - YES - even if he was played as an impact Player or used in the Cup Competitions.
Taking it the other way round - Would it be GOOD BUSINESS for us to pay LFC for Rickie back as another Striking Option (ENGLAND PLAYER) for just 4 million - YES - EVERY TIME.

Losing our Manager - (and there was a lot of denial and minus points flying round about his lack of passion - sitting glued to his seat at games - when clearly he was off once NC left) unsettled and destabilised the BOARD IMO.

DO I THINK THEY MADE THE RIGHT DECISION OVER RICKIE

ANSWER - NO (For Footballing reasons - it was a poor decision)

SHOULD WE RUSH THROUGH AND BE PRESSURIZED TO SELL LUKE AND ADAM

ANSWER : NO - Wait for the new Manager to be in place otherwise it will destabilize his position and not be an unattractive prospect for any new manager. We may be able to lose Luke (although not popular) and NOT ABLE TOP REPLACE ADAM.

Is there CONFIDENCE in the Current Board and their decision Making ?

Answer : They come over as a Provincial Board - should be more pro-active once MP was leaving - and not be panicked bullied or pressurized by other Aggressive Clubs. NC really did a good job at SFC in that regard.

MESSAGE TO THE BOARD :

GET A TOP EUROPEAN MANAGER IN PLACE
SANCTION A TOP STRIKER
STRENTHEN AT CB AND GOALKEEPING TO PROGRESS IN THIS LEAGUE.

There are many people out there that support SAINTS as their Number 2 Club and support LFC - Arsenal - Chelski etc as Number 1. They came out of the woodwork yesterday. (no names mentioned)

SAINTS ARE THE NUMBER ONE CLUB - and I will align myself with Seed, Junction7 and aother passionate hard core Supporters in the best interests of this Club - not lacking Ambition and feeding other City based Clubs.
LOL SIGN ON - SIGN ON - WITH A PEN IN YOUR HAND is for the liverpooooool scum. Look - Do I think Rickie could have done a job for us this Season - YES - even if he was played as an impact Player or used in the Cup Competitions. Taking it the other way round - Would it be GOOD BUSINESS for us to pay LFC for Rickie back as another Striking Option (ENGLAND PLAYER) for just 4 million - YES - EVERY TIME. Losing our Manager - (and there was a lot of denial and minus points flying round about his lack of passion - sitting glued to his seat at games - when clearly he was off once NC left) unsettled and destabilised the BOARD IMO. DO I THINK THEY MADE THE RIGHT DECISION OVER RICKIE ANSWER - NO (For Footballing reasons - it was a poor decision) SHOULD WE RUSH THROUGH AND BE PRESSURIZED TO SELL LUKE AND ADAM ANSWER : NO - Wait for the new Manager to be in place otherwise it will destabilize his position and not be an unattractive prospect for any new manager. We may be able to lose Luke (although not popular) and NOT ABLE TOP REPLACE ADAM. Is there CONFIDENCE in the Current Board and their decision Making ? Answer : They come over as a Provincial Board - should be more pro-active once MP was leaving - and not be panicked bullied or pressurized by other Aggressive Clubs. NC really did a good job at SFC in that regard. MESSAGE TO THE BOARD : GET A TOP EUROPEAN MANAGER IN PLACE SANCTION A TOP STRIKER STRENTHEN AT CB AND GOALKEEPING TO PROGRESS IN THIS LEAGUE. There are many people out there that support SAINTS as their Number 2 Club and support LFC - Arsenal - Chelski etc as Number 1. They came out of the woodwork yesterday. (no names mentioned) SAINTS ARE THE NUMBER ONE CLUB - and I will align myself with Seed, Junction7 and aother passionate hard core Supporters in the best interests of this Club - not lacking Ambition and feeding other City based Clubs. The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
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10:25am Sun 1 Jun 14

jls217 says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
LOL

SIGN ON - SIGN ON - WITH A PEN IN YOUR HAND is for the liverpooooool scum.

Look - Do I think Rickie could have done a job for us this Season - YES - even if he was played as an impact Player or used in the Cup Competitions.
Taking it the other way round - Would it be GOOD BUSINESS for us to pay LFC for Rickie back as another Striking Option (ENGLAND PLAYER) for just 4 million - YES - EVERY TIME.

Losing our Manager - (and there was a lot of denial and minus points flying round about his lack of passion - sitting glued to his seat at games - when clearly he was off once NC left) unsettled and destabilised the BOARD IMO.

DO I THINK THEY MADE THE RIGHT DECISION OVER RICKIE

ANSWER - NO (For Footballing reasons - it was a poor decision)

SHOULD WE RUSH THROUGH AND BE PRESSURIZED TO SELL LUKE AND ADAM

ANSWER : NO - Wait for the new Manager to be in place otherwise it will destabilize his position and not be an unattractive prospect for any new manager. We may be able to lose Luke (although not popular) and NOT ABLE TOP REPLACE ADAM.

Is there CONFIDENCE in the Current Board and their decision Making ?

Answer : They come over as a Provincial Board - should be more pro-active once MP was leaving - and not be panicked bullied or pressurized by other Aggressive Clubs. NC really did a good job at SFC in that regard.

MESSAGE TO THE BOARD :

GET A TOP EUROPEAN MANAGER IN PLACE
SANCTION A TOP STRIKER
STRENTHEN AT CB AND GOALKEEPING TO PROGRESS IN THIS LEAGUE.

There are many people out there that support SAINTS as their Number 2 Club and support LFC - Arsenal - Chelski etc as Number 1. They came out of the woodwork yesterday. (no names mentioned)

SAINTS ARE THE NUMBER ONE CLUB - and I will align myself with Seed, Junction7 and aother passionate hard core Supporters in the best interests of this Club - not lacking Ambition and feeding other City based Clubs.
With you on this post mate.
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: LOL SIGN ON - SIGN ON - WITH A PEN IN YOUR HAND is for the liverpooooool scum. Look - Do I think Rickie could have done a job for us this Season - YES - even if he was played as an impact Player or used in the Cup Competitions. Taking it the other way round - Would it be GOOD BUSINESS for us to pay LFC for Rickie back as another Striking Option (ENGLAND PLAYER) for just 4 million - YES - EVERY TIME. Losing our Manager - (and there was a lot of denial and minus points flying round about his lack of passion - sitting glued to his seat at games - when clearly he was off once NC left) unsettled and destabilised the BOARD IMO. DO I THINK THEY MADE THE RIGHT DECISION OVER RICKIE ANSWER - NO (For Footballing reasons - it was a poor decision) SHOULD WE RUSH THROUGH AND BE PRESSURIZED TO SELL LUKE AND ADAM ANSWER : NO - Wait for the new Manager to be in place otherwise it will destabilize his position and not be an unattractive prospect for any new manager. We may be able to lose Luke (although not popular) and NOT ABLE TOP REPLACE ADAM. Is there CONFIDENCE in the Current Board and their decision Making ? Answer : They come over as a Provincial Board - should be more pro-active once MP was leaving - and not be panicked bullied or pressurized by other Aggressive Clubs. NC really did a good job at SFC in that regard. MESSAGE TO THE BOARD : GET A TOP EUROPEAN MANAGER IN PLACE SANCTION A TOP STRIKER STRENTHEN AT CB AND GOALKEEPING TO PROGRESS IN THIS LEAGUE. There are many people out there that support SAINTS as their Number 2 Club and support LFC - Arsenal - Chelski etc as Number 1. They came out of the woodwork yesterday. (no names mentioned) SAINTS ARE THE NUMBER ONE CLUB - and I will align myself with Seed, Junction7 and aother passionate hard core Supporters in the best interests of this Club - not lacking Ambition and feeding other City based Clubs.[/p][/quote]With you on this post mate. jls217
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