Southampton felt they had little choice but to allow Rickie Lambert to speak to Liverpool

Lambert sale a reluctant one for Saints

Lambert sale a reluctant one for Saints

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Saints are understood to have reluctantly felt they had little choice but to allow Rickie Lambert to speak to Liverpool about a move to Anfield.

The club received a surprise approach from the Reds yesterday, and have now agreed a fee worth as much as £5m up front, plus add-ons.

Liverpool are understood to have insisted the deal took place before the end of the weekend, otherwise they would have to turn their attention elsewhere, saying they would be unwilling to wait until after the World Cup.

While Saints would like to have kept Lambert, they were aware that the move represents a dream one for him and that standing in his way could create a deep and unhealthy division with the player.

Although chairman Ralph Krueger had said before Liverpool's bid arrived that all transfer dealings were on hold until a replacement for Mauricio Pochettino was appointed, had Saints kept him against his wishes there were fears that the club would have to accept a lesser fee for him later this summer if it meant the relationship moving beyond repair.

Lambert, who could feature for England in tonight’s World Cup warm-up against Peru at Wembley, is set for a medical tomorrow, and will sign a two-year deal if he passes that.

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12:21pm Fri 30 May 14

JohnItaly says...

Don't suppose the "add-ons" includes Suarez or Sturridge. Thought not.
Don't suppose the "add-ons" includes Suarez or Sturridge. Thought not. JohnItaly
  • Score: 37

12:28pm Fri 30 May 14

BracknellSaint says...

No, the board just don't have any wits, or indeed nuts, about them.
Yet again, roll over, and get our belly tickled.
Embarrassed....
No, the board just don't have any wits, or indeed nuts, about them. Yet again, roll over, and get our belly tickled. Embarrassed.... BracknellSaint
  • Score: -32

12:33pm Fri 30 May 14

markodarko29 says...

This is like going back to the days when Rupert was in charge,selling all the best players and lying to the fans .
This is like going back to the days when Rupert was in charge,selling all the best players and lying to the fans . markodarko29
  • Score: 3

12:35pm Fri 30 May 14

Salalal says...

"Liverpool are understood to have insisted the deal took place before the end of the weekend, otherwise they would have to turn their attention elsewhere, saying they would be unwilling to wait until after the World Cup"

Katharina must be really desperate for cash. It seems we will take any offer for any of our players now.
"Liverpool are understood to have insisted the deal took place before the end of the weekend, otherwise they would have to turn their attention elsewhere, saying they would be unwilling to wait until after the World Cup" Katharina must be really desperate for cash. It seems we will take any offer for any of our players now. Salalal
  • Score: -28

12:37pm Fri 30 May 14

Salalal says...

I don't like being lied to. I wonder if I can get the money back for the two season tickets I bought? I guess not. Poor Kat needs every penny she can get.
I don't like being lied to. I wonder if I can get the money back for the two season tickets I bought? I guess not. Poor Kat needs every penny she can get. Salalal
  • Score: -25

12:37pm Fri 30 May 14

Ms Mahoney says...

So that's only two english saints players going to the world cup..... For now
So that's only two english saints players going to the world cup..... For now Ms Mahoney
  • Score: 9

12:40pm Fri 30 May 14

ere-we-go says...

What a load of horse s**t. The answer could quite easily have been NO! The bottom line is, don't make statements then go against them a matter of hours later.

You are being made to look like fools and at the same time irritating the hell out of the supporters.
What a load of horse s**t. The answer could quite easily have been NO! The bottom line is, don't make statements then go against them a matter of hours later. You are being made to look like fools and at the same time irritating the hell out of the supporters. ere-we-go
  • Score: 11

12:41pm Fri 30 May 14

OfficialSpudUk says...

BracknellSaint wrote:
No, the board just don't have any wits, or indeed nuts, about them.
Yet again, roll over, and get our belly tickled.
Embarrassed....
Oh please, another hysterical football fan! £5m for a 32 year old striker's a dream move is good business for the player and the club. Board had their hands tied by Liverpool and Rickie's desire for a dream move to his boyhood club. Calm down...Saints fans need to stop freaking out at every piece of news
[quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: No, the board just don't have any wits, or indeed nuts, about them. Yet again, roll over, and get our belly tickled. Embarrassed....[/p][/quote]Oh please, another hysterical football fan! £5m for a 32 year old striker's a dream move is good business for the player and the club. Board had their hands tied by Liverpool and Rickie's desire for a dream move to his boyhood club. Calm down...Saints fans need to stop freaking out at every piece of news OfficialSpudUk
  • Score: 101

12:47pm Fri 30 May 14

ADSFC72 says...

I am afraid this is just football and I believe this deal was out of the boards hands, clearly RL wants to go and for the right reasons, so we cannot blame either for that. Its a good deal for us £5M for an ageing player, that can be invested back into the team.
I am afraid this is just football and I believe this deal was out of the boards hands, clearly RL wants to go and for the right reasons, so we cannot blame either for that. Its a good deal for us £5M for an ageing player, that can be invested back into the team. ADSFC72
  • Score: 67

12:47pm Fri 30 May 14

TEqH 83 says...

It's all getting a bit much now, at least when we went into administration we had f**k all to lose! I've been calling the Saintmaritans all week but the line is engaged so I've ordered a sand pit to put my head in til the end of August.
It's all getting a bit much now, at least when we went into administration we had f**k all to lose! I've been calling the Saintmaritans all week but the line is engaged so I've ordered a sand pit to put my head in til the end of August. TEqH 83
  • Score: -17

12:47pm Fri 30 May 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Hope the board won't regret worrying about a "lesser fee" for him,when he belts in the winning penalty,in the final.
Hope the board won't regret worrying about a "lesser fee" for him,when he belts in the winning penalty,in the final. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 3

12:50pm Fri 30 May 14

costa gaz says...

Well done Ralph, you have managed to turn a sellers market into a buyers one.
Players will only be sold under our terms???? sounds like Liverpool have dictated proceedings on this one.

You sir, are way out of your depth... you are not playing a playstation game here, this real and it is hurting a lot of people, maybe you should be re-thinking your position at our club.
What was Reeds input to all of this? Are you being badly advised?

A Thai style coup maybe our only hope.
Well done Ralph, you have managed to turn a sellers market into a buyers one. Players will only be sold under our terms???? sounds like Liverpool have dictated proceedings on this one. You sir, are way out of your depth... you are not playing a playstation game here, this real and it is hurting a lot of people, maybe you should be re-thinking your position at our club. What was Reeds input to all of this? Are you being badly advised? A Thai style coup maybe our only hope. costa gaz
  • Score: -9

12:52pm Fri 30 May 14

costa gaz says...

OfficialSpudUk wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
No, the board just don't have any wits, or indeed nuts, about them.
Yet again, roll over, and get our belly tickled.
Embarrassed....
Oh please, another hysterical football fan! £5m for a 32 year old striker's a dream move is good business for the player and the club. Board had their hands tied by Liverpool and Rickie's desire for a dream move to his boyhood club. Calm down...Saints fans need to stop freaking out at every piece of news
...Coming from the most fickle, deluded fans in the country....
[quote][p][bold]OfficialSpudUk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: No, the board just don't have any wits, or indeed nuts, about them. Yet again, roll over, and get our belly tickled. Embarrassed....[/p][/quote]Oh please, another hysterical football fan! £5m for a 32 year old striker's a dream move is good business for the player and the club. Board had their hands tied by Liverpool and Rickie's desire for a dream move to his boyhood club. Calm down...Saints fans need to stop freaking out at every piece of news[/p][/quote]...Coming from the most fickle, deluded fans in the country.... costa gaz
  • Score: -24

12:57pm Fri 30 May 14

jerseysaint says...

cant blame Ricky for wanting to go, he has 2 seasons left and its a good pay day for him.He will also get to play in the champions league.
He has been amazing for us and is a club legend.
The days of a player staying at one club all their career are over i think.
Panic we cannot but i do think the board need to get a manager in swiftly and say hands off the rest of the players.
cant blame Ricky for wanting to go, he has 2 seasons left and its a good pay day for him.He will also get to play in the champions league. He has been amazing for us and is a club legend. The days of a player staying at one club all their career are over i think. Panic we cannot but i do think the board need to get a manager in swiftly and say hands off the rest of the players. jerseysaint
  • Score: 63

12:58pm Fri 30 May 14

THE12THMAN says...

ere-we-go wrote:
What a load of horse s**t. The answer could quite easily have been NO! The bottom line is, don't make statements then go against them a matter of hours later.

You are being made to look like fools and at the same time irritating the hell out of the supporters.
The only problem with saying no when a player wants to go is you end up with a player who will not give you 100% and next year will only be worth 2 million. I think we all agree Lambert deserves the chance to play for the club he has supported all his life, lets not forget Cortese nearly sold him to West Spam.
[quote][p][bold]ere-we-go[/bold] wrote: What a load of horse s**t. The answer could quite easily have been NO! The bottom line is, don't make statements then go against them a matter of hours later. You are being made to look like fools and at the same time irritating the hell out of the supporters.[/p][/quote]The only problem with saying no when a player wants to go is you end up with a player who will not give you 100% and next year will only be worth 2 million. I think we all agree Lambert deserves the chance to play for the club he has supported all his life, lets not forget Cortese nearly sold him to West Spam. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 53

12:59pm Fri 30 May 14

Berkshire Saint says...

There are some great posts here and the sentiment is clear. Yes the level headed will say that this is football and it's sound commercial sense however this is all happening after our most successful season in 26 years. I would understand it if we finished 17th but not when we're making real progress.

The other points about being lied to by the board are entirely fair after the comments made this week about no decisions being made before a manager is appointed and the point about any deals being made on our terms. Other clubs seem far more in control of the situation than we are.
There are some great posts here and the sentiment is clear. Yes the level headed will say that this is football and it's sound commercial sense however this is all happening after our most successful season in 26 years. I would understand it if we finished 17th but not when we're making real progress. The other points about being lied to by the board are entirely fair after the comments made this week about no decisions being made before a manager is appointed and the point about any deals being made on our terms. Other clubs seem far more in control of the situation than we are. Berkshire Saint
  • Score: 3

1:01pm Fri 30 May 14

Matt Le God says...

Got to say Ralph - you have a lot of motivational talkin to do to appease the fans..

I get why RL would go to Liverpool and cant blame him really although I had hoped he would see his career out with us. The board really does need to show its mettle now and on that we will just the clubs ambition - over to you Ralph and co......
Got to say Ralph - you have a lot of motivational talkin to do to appease the fans.. I get why RL would go to Liverpool and cant blame him really although I had hoped he would see his career out with us. The board really does need to show its mettle now and on that we will just the clubs ambition - over to you Ralph and co...... Matt Le God
  • Score: 16

1:02pm Fri 30 May 14

Berkshire Saint says...

THE12THMAN wrote:
ere-we-go wrote:
What a load of horse s**t. The answer could quite easily have been NO! The bottom line is, don't make statements then go against them a matter of hours later.

You are being made to look like fools and at the same time irritating the hell out of the supporters.
The only problem with saying no when a player wants to go is you end up with a player who will not give you 100% and next year will only be worth 2 million. I think we all agree Lambert deserves the chance to play for the club he has supported all his life, lets not forget Cortese nearly sold him to West Spam.
Actually this isn't true. Look at Suarez last season who was desperate to leave Liverpool yet when the club stood firm he got on with it and was the Prems start player.
[quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ere-we-go[/bold] wrote: What a load of horse s**t. The answer could quite easily have been NO! The bottom line is, don't make statements then go against them a matter of hours later. You are being made to look like fools and at the same time irritating the hell out of the supporters.[/p][/quote]The only problem with saying no when a player wants to go is you end up with a player who will not give you 100% and next year will only be worth 2 million. I think we all agree Lambert deserves the chance to play for the club he has supported all his life, lets not forget Cortese nearly sold him to West Spam.[/p][/quote]Actually this isn't true. Look at Suarez last season who was desperate to leave Liverpool yet when the club stood firm he got on with it and was the Prems start player. Berkshire Saint
  • Score: 7

1:09pm Fri 30 May 14

THE12THMAN says...

Berkshire Saint wrote:
THE12THMAN wrote:
ere-we-go wrote:
What a load of horse s**t. The answer could quite easily have been NO! The bottom line is, don't make statements then go against them a matter of hours later.

You are being made to look like fools and at the same time irritating the hell out of the supporters.
The only problem with saying no when a player wants to go is you end up with a player who will not give you 100% and next year will only be worth 2 million. I think we all agree Lambert deserves the chance to play for the club he has supported all his life, lets not forget Cortese nearly sold him to West Spam.
Actually this isn't true. Look at Suarez last season who was desperate to leave Liverpool yet when the club stood firm he got on with it and was the Prems start player.
The reason Suarez stayed is because they are paying him £200,000 a week and promised him champions league football.
[quote][p][bold]Berkshire Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ere-we-go[/bold] wrote: What a load of horse s**t. The answer could quite easily have been NO! The bottom line is, don't make statements then go against them a matter of hours later. You are being made to look like fools and at the same time irritating the hell out of the supporters.[/p][/quote]The only problem with saying no when a player wants to go is you end up with a player who will not give you 100% and next year will only be worth 2 million. I think we all agree Lambert deserves the chance to play for the club he has supported all his life, lets not forget Cortese nearly sold him to West Spam.[/p][/quote]Actually this isn't true. Look at Suarez last season who was desperate to leave Liverpool yet when the club stood firm he got on with it and was the Prems start player.[/p][/quote]The reason Suarez stayed is because they are paying him £200,000 a week and promised him champions league football. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 20

1:22pm Fri 30 May 14

keo19391 says...

Just 24hrs after an official club interview revealed that quote...its very clear that we (the Board) are in control of all player tranfers .............We will involve the Manager....unquote, we are told that a fee has been agreed for the transfer of Rickie Lambert. How can such negotiation have taken place in just 24 hrs!!!!! So much for the honesty, integrity and transparency of Ralph Kreuger (what is it with people who love types of hockey games). How can we now expect a high-calibre Manager to come to a club which is selling the crown jewels before he gets here. I fear for what we will end up with. It is about time for Katherina to state the strength of her long-term commitment to the Saints. If for no other reason than out of courtesy of the Saints fans who still revere her late father in their songs on match days.
Just 24hrs after an official club interview revealed that quote...its very clear that we (the Board) are in control of all player tranfers .............We will involve the Manager....unquote, we are told that a fee has been agreed for the transfer of Rickie Lambert. How can such negotiation have taken place in just 24 hrs!!!!! So much for the honesty, integrity and transparency of Ralph Kreuger (what is it with people who love types of hockey games). How can we now expect a high-calibre Manager to come to a club which is selling the crown jewels before he gets here. I fear for what we will end up with. It is about time for Katherina to state the strength of her long-term commitment to the Saints. If for no other reason than out of courtesy of the Saints fans who still revere her late father in their songs on match days. keo19391
  • Score: -8

1:24pm Fri 30 May 14

donni1437 says...

What are the board doing? Sell our manager now SRL. I can't blame either for moving to bigger clubs but all this talk of Europe is tosh . How does letting Poch and SRL leave make any sense if that's our goal. I would imagine Adam and Luke will be next. Ralph has a hell off a job on his hands now, which on what we've seen so far he aint up to. Too much fluff and not enough action.
What are the board doing? Sell our manager now SRL. I can't blame either for moving to bigger clubs but all this talk of Europe is tosh . How does letting Poch and SRL leave make any sense if that's our goal. I would imagine Adam and Luke will be next. Ralph has a hell off a job on his hands now, which on what we've seen so far he aint up to. Too much fluff and not enough action. donni1437
  • Score: -11

1:33pm Fri 30 May 14

North Wales Saint says...

Well it certainly completes the fairy tale very neatly as far as Rickie is concerned. The Liverpool papers are full of "Rickie coming home" type headlines. We are going to miss him in so many ways. He must be the bargain buy of the century so far. Thanks for the memories.
Well it certainly completes the fairy tale very neatly as far as Rickie is concerned. The Liverpool papers are full of "Rickie coming home" type headlines. We are going to miss him in so many ways. He must be the bargain buy of the century so far. Thanks for the memories. North Wales Saint
  • Score: 41

1:35pm Fri 30 May 14

Alicesdad says...

That argument applies to any player you can think of. The idea of creating a "division" if they dont get their own way is pandering to those who would simply hold you to ransom.
I suspect that the possibility of £5m plus add ons (what exactly are add ons??) lit up the accountants eyes a bit too brightly. I think a new manager with an appreciation of SRLs skills would have fought harder against this.

I am surpsied that such an "unhealthy division" would have been the case with Rickie as I recall him saying on these very pages that he would see his career out here. I do however accept that his dream is coming true but I suspect he will seldom be seen on a pitch again.

. "Rickie never used to be like this before he played for England."
That argument applies to any player you can think of. The idea of creating a "division" if they dont get their own way is pandering to those who would simply hold you to ransom. I suspect that the possibility of £5m plus add ons (what exactly are add ons??) lit up the accountants eyes a bit too brightly. I think a new manager with an appreciation of SRLs skills would have fought harder against this. I am surpsied that such an "unhealthy division" would have been the case with Rickie as I recall him saying on these very pages that he would see his career out here. I do however accept that his dream is coming true but I suspect he will seldom be seen on a pitch again. . "Rickie never used to be like this before he played for England." Alicesdad
  • Score: 5

1:39pm Fri 30 May 14

North Wales Saint says...

Incidentally, if we did manage to hang on to him, I don't think there is any way Rickie would not continue to give his all for Saints. He has shown over the years that he is not that sort of character, quite the opposite in fact, which is one of many reasons why he would be missed so very much.
Incidentally, if we did manage to hang on to him, I don't think there is any way Rickie would not continue to give his all for Saints. He has shown over the years that he is not that sort of character, quite the opposite in fact, which is one of many reasons why he would be missed so very much. North Wales Saint
  • Score: 18

1:40pm Fri 30 May 14

donni1437 says...

ADSFC72 wrote:
I am afraid this is just football and I believe this deal was out of the boards hands, clearly RL wants to go and for the right reasons, so we cannot blame either for that. Its a good deal for us £5M for an ageing player, that can be invested back into the team.
We can't say if a good deal or not until we see who they bring in to replace him? What can we get for £5m? Maybe we'll get Dani or Mayuka back. Is it such a good deal then?
[quote][p][bold]ADSFC72[/bold] wrote: I am afraid this is just football and I believe this deal was out of the boards hands, clearly RL wants to go and for the right reasons, so we cannot blame either for that. Its a good deal for us £5M for an ageing player, that can be invested back into the team.[/p][/quote]We can't say if a good deal or not until we see who they bring in to replace him? What can we get for £5m? Maybe we'll get Dani or Mayuka back. Is it such a good deal then? donni1437
  • Score: -1

1:45pm Fri 30 May 14

Saintade says...

Salalal wrote:
I don't like being lied to. I wonder if I can get the money back for the two season tickets I bought? I guess not. Poor Kat needs every penny she can get.
You can get your money back on your season ticket right up until a ball is kicked my friend. That's exactly what I said I'd do when Poch left and then again this morning when I heard about Ricky, but will I? No, because I love Saints, but all this news hurts me deep inside. We need some good news, and quick. The manager appointment is probably the biggest decision the club has ever made, so it had better be right. And with this news coming out on season ticket deadline day, it's a complete utter disaster for the marketing team. The website headlines with 'Deadline for season tickets'...yeah, right, that'll keep the fans happy LOL. Why don't you cut me open and rub salt in as well for good measure.
[quote][p][bold]Salalal[/bold] wrote: I don't like being lied to. I wonder if I can get the money back for the two season tickets I bought? I guess not. Poor Kat needs every penny she can get.[/p][/quote]You can get your money back on your season ticket right up until a ball is kicked my friend. That's exactly what I said I'd do when Poch left and then again this morning when I heard about Ricky, but will I? No, because I love Saints, but all this news hurts me deep inside. We need some good news, and quick. The manager appointment is probably the biggest decision the club has ever made, so it had better be right. And with this news coming out on season ticket deadline day, it's a complete utter disaster for the marketing team. The website headlines with 'Deadline for season tickets'...yeah, right, that'll keep the fans happy LOL. Why don't you cut me open and rub salt in as well for good measure. Saintade
  • Score: 13

1:46pm Fri 30 May 14

bullsbags says...

North Wales Saint wrote:
Well it certainly completes the fairy tale very neatly as far as Rickie is concerned. The Liverpool papers are full of "Rickie coming home" type headlines. We are going to miss him in so many ways. He must be the bargain buy of the century so far. Thanks for the memories.
He was the bargain of the century when WE bought him
If he goes to the scousers,good luck to him,he has given us his all
BUT make sure he is the only one that goes before theWC and if others follow make sure we get TOP DOLLAR for them.20 mill for Adam and 27 mil for Luke is way short of the mark
Then go and wind up Harry and get Charlie Austin,from what I've seen he would be an ideal replacement for SRL
[quote][p][bold]North Wales Saint[/bold] wrote: Well it certainly completes the fairy tale very neatly as far as Rickie is concerned. The Liverpool papers are full of "Rickie coming home" type headlines. We are going to miss him in so many ways. He must be the bargain buy of the century so far. Thanks for the memories.[/p][/quote]He was the bargain of the century when WE bought him If he goes to the scousers,good luck to him,he has given us his all BUT make sure he is the only one that goes before theWC and if others follow make sure we get TOP DOLLAR for them.20 mill for Adam and 27 mil for Luke is way short of the mark Then go and wind up Harry and get Charlie Austin,from what I've seen he would be an ideal replacement for SRL bullsbags
  • Score: 6

1:53pm Fri 30 May 14

montecristosaint says...

I said it when I first heard him speak after appointment Ralph Kruger is clueless. He doesnt understand english football, this is not an american franchise but a club that is at the centre of people s lives.People slated me when I cam out and criticized Liebherr for letting Cortese go but I am willing to bet there are some very red faces in Southampton now. Krueger has no business experience, what is he doing as chairman of a football club.The board knew weeks ago that Pochettino was going to leave why didnt they then work on finding a replacement? Does anyone think that Cortese would for one second let things slide to this extent and not have a replacement lined up? Krueger was brought in for his ability to deal with PR but he as convincing as Genghis Khan in a strip club.The same goes for Reed how relevant is his CV to the job he is supposed to be doing? These are two yes men Liebherr is stripping the club before our very eyes. What people dont seem to understand is that Southampton will still be worth 100 million after all the best players have gone but would not have been worth more than 150 million if sold now as a going concern, I do not believe that Liebherr is here for the long term. Give it three months she will be gone. My only hope is that someone who might be interested in buying a football than this woman who inherited daddy s plaything will come in and make her an offer she cannot refuse. And I would add this warning for Liebherr. Her father built a reputation in Southampton,She is doing her level best to destroy it in five minutes, exactly what impact does she think this debacle will have on the rest of her business??? I think I know the answer and my advice to her is to cut her losses now and get out of the football club.
I said it when I first heard him speak after appointment Ralph Kruger is clueless. He doesnt understand english football, this is not an american franchise but a club that is at the centre of people s lives.People slated me when I cam out and criticized Liebherr for letting Cortese go but I am willing to bet there are some very red faces in Southampton now. Krueger has no business experience, what is he doing as chairman of a football club.The board knew weeks ago that Pochettino was going to leave why didnt they then work on finding a replacement? Does anyone think that Cortese would for one second let things slide to this extent and not have a replacement lined up? Krueger was brought in for his ability to deal with PR but he as convincing as Genghis Khan in a strip club.The same goes for Reed how relevant is his CV to the job he is supposed to be doing? These are two yes men Liebherr is stripping the club before our very eyes. What people dont seem to understand is that Southampton will still be worth 100 million after all the best players have gone but would not have been worth more than 150 million if sold now as a going concern, I do not believe that Liebherr is here for the long term. Give it three months she will be gone. My only hope is that someone who might be interested in buying a football than this woman who inherited daddy s plaything will come in and make her an offer she cannot refuse. And I would add this warning for Liebherr. Her father built a reputation in Southampton,She is doing her level best to destroy it in five minutes, exactly what impact does she think this debacle will have on the rest of her business??? I think I know the answer and my advice to her is to cut her losses now and get out of the football club. montecristosaint
  • Score: -5

1:58pm Fri 30 May 14

Saint Anthony says...

markodarko29 wrote:
This is like going back to the days when Rupert was in charge,selling all the best players and lying to the fans .
Just the sound of rats leaving the doomed ship that is Saint Mary's. Seems we are going backwoods just like ice hockey players do.
[quote][p][bold]markodarko29[/bold] wrote: This is like going back to the days when Rupert was in charge,selling all the best players and lying to the fans .[/p][/quote]Just the sound of rats leaving the doomed ship that is Saint Mary's. Seems we are going backwoods just like ice hockey players do. Saint Anthony
  • Score: -3

2:00pm Fri 30 May 14

Positively4thStreet says...

markodarko29 wrote:
This is like going back to the days when Rupert was in charge,selling all the best players and lying to the fans .
Yes,the whole thing does seem to have a remarkably "Deja Lowe" feeling about it at the moment,doesn't it.
[quote][p][bold]markodarko29[/bold] wrote: This is like going back to the days when Rupert was in charge,selling all the best players and lying to the fans .[/p][/quote]Yes,the whole thing does seem to have a remarkably "Deja Lowe" feeling about it at the moment,doesn't it. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 3

2:03pm Fri 30 May 14

spirit of 66 says...

Thanks to SRL for what he has done for Southampton FC. We all knew that the club which could take him away from us was Liverpool, and now it has happened. We are forever in his debt for the two promotions and keeping us up and now reaching 8th in the Premier League. He knows what the club has done for him too, taking him from the lower divisions to playing for England in the World Cup. Cheers and respect, enjoyed every minute.
Thanks to SRL for what he has done for Southampton FC. We all knew that the club which could take him away from us was Liverpool, and now it has happened. We are forever in his debt for the two promotions and keeping us up and now reaching 8th in the Premier League. He knows what the club has done for him too, taking him from the lower divisions to playing for England in the World Cup. Cheers and respect, enjoyed every minute. spirit of 66
  • Score: 27

2:06pm Fri 30 May 14

saint dave says...

I think this was the right thing to do, for a true professional, who has always given 100% for saints, good luck Rickie.
I think this was the right thing to do, for a true professional, who has always given 100% for saints, good luck Rickie. saint dave
  • Score: 25

2:06pm Fri 30 May 14

hedge end bob says...

OfficialSpudUk wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
No, the board just don't have any wits, or indeed nuts, about them.
Yet again, roll over, and get our belly tickled.
Embarrassed....
Oh please, another hysterical football fan! £5m for a 32 year old striker's a dream move is good business for the player and the club. Board had their hands tied by Liverpool and Rickie's desire for a dream move to his boyhood club. Calm down...Saints fans need to stop freaking out at every piece of news
When every single bit of news is bad news what do you expect . I don't think any amount of money compensates what Rickie means to this team and the players in it. SFC have come out second best in this deal and should NOT be held too ransome by other clubs wanting our best players on the CHEAP.
[quote][p][bold]OfficialSpudUk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: No, the board just don't have any wits, or indeed nuts, about them. Yet again, roll over, and get our belly tickled. Embarrassed....[/p][/quote]Oh please, another hysterical football fan! £5m for a 32 year old striker's a dream move is good business for the player and the club. Board had their hands tied by Liverpool and Rickie's desire for a dream move to his boyhood club. Calm down...Saints fans need to stop freaking out at every piece of news[/p][/quote]When every single bit of news is bad news what do you expect . I don't think any amount of money compensates what Rickie means to this team and the players in it. SFC have come out second best in this deal and should NOT be held too ransome by other clubs wanting our best players on the CHEAP. hedge end bob
  • Score: 9

2:08pm Fri 30 May 14

montecristosaint says...

jerseysaint wrote:
cant blame Ricky for wanting to go, he has 2 seasons left and its a good pay day for him.He will also get to play in the champions league.
He has been amazing for us and is a club legend.
The days of a player staying at one club all their career are over i think.
Panic we cannot but i do think the board need to get a manager in swiftly and say hands off the rest of the players.
unfortunately all the signs are that the club is prepared to listen to offer for all of our players. In his interview yesterday it was very noticeable that Krueger avoided answering questions as to player sales merely stating that the club was in control of that situation. I and I suspect most Saints fans disagree. This is about dealing with the press in an effective way and neither Reed nor Krueger have shown any ability to do that. Most worryingly for me is that Krueger is a foreigner, not a local man, the writing was on the wall when Liebherr refused to appoint Thompson a CEO with considerable experience of managing a football club and went for a canadian hockey coach who would do her bidding and sell the players. The correct way of dealing with the transfer of Lambert given his status within the club would have been to issue a statement confirming on going negotiations stressing that these were in recognition of the great service SRL has given to Saints, but that the club did not intend further sales pending the appointment of a new manager. We did not get that and needless to say the press has jumped on the club like a bunch of hyenas and so has the rest of the football world nothing like perceived weakness to induce bids for our best players.
[quote][p][bold]jerseysaint[/bold] wrote: cant blame Ricky for wanting to go, he has 2 seasons left and its a good pay day for him.He will also get to play in the champions league. He has been amazing for us and is a club legend. The days of a player staying at one club all their career are over i think. Panic we cannot but i do think the board need to get a manager in swiftly and say hands off the rest of the players.[/p][/quote]unfortunately all the signs are that the club is prepared to listen to offer for all of our players. In his interview yesterday it was very noticeable that Krueger avoided answering questions as to player sales merely stating that the club was in control of that situation. I and I suspect most Saints fans disagree. This is about dealing with the press in an effective way and neither Reed nor Krueger have shown any ability to do that. Most worryingly for me is that Krueger is a foreigner, not a local man, the writing was on the wall when Liebherr refused to appoint Thompson a CEO with considerable experience of managing a football club and went for a canadian hockey coach who would do her bidding and sell the players. The correct way of dealing with the transfer of Lambert given his status within the club would have been to issue a statement confirming on going negotiations stressing that these were in recognition of the great service SRL has given to Saints, but that the club did not intend further sales pending the appointment of a new manager. We did not get that and needless to say the press has jumped on the club like a bunch of hyenas and so has the rest of the football world nothing like perceived weakness to induce bids for our best players. montecristosaint
  • Score: 9

2:16pm Fri 30 May 14

SaintJD says...

hedge end bob wrote:
OfficialSpudUk wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
No, the board just don't have any wits, or indeed nuts, about them.
Yet again, roll over, and get our belly tickled.
Embarrassed....
Oh please, another hysterical football fan! £5m for a 32 year old striker's a dream move is good business for the player and the club. Board had their hands tied by Liverpool and Rickie's desire for a dream move to his boyhood club. Calm down...Saints fans need to stop freaking out at every piece of news
When every single bit of news is bad news what do you expect . I don't think any amount of money compensates what Rickie means to this team and the players in it. SFC have come out second best in this deal and should NOT be held too ransome by other clubs wanting our best players on the CHEAP.
100% correct. My mate also said it was good money for a 32 year old. Rubbish in my opinion. This is the club that saw the value of putting Kelvin Davis on a three year deal, which was questionable, but shows how much value Cortese put on experience in the dressing room. We simply will not get anyone as good as Rickie Lambert for £5 million. Even off the bench for 10 minutes he'd be worth more for one season than the £5 million (and he was more than capable of playing midfield in my opinion because we'll need someone with vision if Adam leaves).

His scoring record this season matched last season also, meaning he isn't showing signs of a downward spiral.

That's not to mention the talisman factor and connection to our League 1 days.

I'm sorry, but it's bad for Saints, end of. I can already see the 'no celebration' when he bangs in one of several goals he will score against us before he retires, even if that's only in 5 minute appearances or in the cups. Bad move, bad, bad management of the club.

And the argument that it would unsettle the other players if he were unhappy is a joke. Want to unsettle the players? Sell Rickie Lambert - the guy they all look up to and love.
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OfficialSpudUk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: No, the board just don't have any wits, or indeed nuts, about them. Yet again, roll over, and get our belly tickled. Embarrassed....[/p][/quote]Oh please, another hysterical football fan! £5m for a 32 year old striker's a dream move is good business for the player and the club. Board had their hands tied by Liverpool and Rickie's desire for a dream move to his boyhood club. Calm down...Saints fans need to stop freaking out at every piece of news[/p][/quote]When every single bit of news is bad news what do you expect . I don't think any amount of money compensates what Rickie means to this team and the players in it. SFC have come out second best in this deal and should NOT be held too ransome by other clubs wanting our best players on the CHEAP.[/p][/quote]100% correct. My mate also said it was good money for a 32 year old. Rubbish in my opinion. This is the club that saw the value of putting Kelvin Davis on a three year deal, which was questionable, but shows how much value Cortese put on experience in the dressing room. We simply will not get anyone as good as Rickie Lambert for £5 million. Even off the bench for 10 minutes he'd be worth more for one season than the £5 million (and he was more than capable of playing midfield in my opinion because we'll need someone with vision if Adam leaves). His scoring record this season matched last season also, meaning he isn't showing signs of a downward spiral. That's not to mention the talisman factor and connection to our League 1 days. I'm sorry, but it's bad for Saints, end of. I can already see the 'no celebration' when he bangs in one of several goals he will score against us before he retires, even if that's only in 5 minute appearances or in the cups. Bad move, bad, bad management of the club. And the argument that it would unsettle the other players if he were unhappy is a joke. Want to unsettle the players? Sell Rickie Lambert - the guy they all look up to and love. SaintJD
  • Score: 6

2:18pm Fri 30 May 14

saintbobby says...

Like many, I was pig-sick when I heard this news last night.

But I now realise that Rickie has done us a lot of good during his spell here. I thought he would continue to be a Saints' legend and finish his days with us.

However, this has probably come about because he has been got at by Gerrard and the others within the England set up. I just do not believe Liverpool (oops, Diverpool) came up with this on their own. However, I am puzzled that Rickie cannot see his backside is going to get pretty sore on the bench. Surely the big diver and Sterling/Sturridge are going to be on the starting lineup before our hero?

He is going back home though and he might get a few minutes in the Champions League. So in great sadness, I wish him well and trust he might get a few more England chances. Thank you, Rickie, at least you will, for sure, get a big cheer if you play at St. Mary's.
Like many, I was pig-sick when I heard this news last night. But I now realise that Rickie has done us a lot of good during his spell here. I thought he would continue to be a Saints' legend and finish his days with us. However, this has probably come about because he has been got at by Gerrard and the others within the England set up. I just do not believe Liverpool (oops, Diverpool) came up with this on their own. However, I am puzzled that Rickie cannot see his backside is going to get pretty sore on the bench. Surely the big diver and Sterling/Sturridge are going to be on the starting lineup before our hero? He is going back home though and he might get a few minutes in the Champions League. So in great sadness, I wish him well and trust he might get a few more England chances. Thank you, Rickie, at least you will, for sure, get a big cheer if you play at St. Mary's. saintbobby
  • Score: 20

2:21pm Fri 30 May 14

SaintJD says...

One other quick thing. If £5 million is good money for Rickie, then why were we all going to be outraged if Carroll went the world cup ahead of him?

Carroll, as poor as he is, is a £15 million player. So if you are saying that, for a replacement we need to stump up another £10 million for an inferior if younger replacement, I'd say no thanks.

Man Utd have the right idea - buy Shaw, keep Evra for one more season and get the replacement so you can nurture him before you dispense with the player you are phasing out.

The board are being taken for a ride. And if Liverpool want him so much, how about we take someone in return? Enrique wouldn't be too bad for left back. But no, they aren't that smart with their negotiations are they.
One other quick thing. If £5 million is good money for Rickie, then why were we all going to be outraged if Carroll went the world cup ahead of him? Carroll, as poor as he is, is a £15 million player. So if you are saying that, for a replacement we need to stump up another £10 million for an inferior if younger replacement, I'd say no thanks. Man Utd have the right idea - buy Shaw, keep Evra for one more season and get the replacement so you can nurture him before you dispense with the player you are phasing out. The board are being taken for a ride. And if Liverpool want him so much, how about we take someone in return? Enrique wouldn't be too bad for left back. But no, they aren't that smart with their negotiations are they. SaintJD
  • Score: 0

2:21pm Fri 30 May 14

hedge end bob says...

THE12THMAN wrote:
Berkshire Saint wrote:
THE12THMAN wrote:
ere-we-go wrote:
What a load of horse s**t. The answer could quite easily have been NO! The bottom line is, don't make statements then go against them a matter of hours later.

You are being made to look like fools and at the same time irritating the hell out of the supporters.
The only problem with saying no when a player wants to go is you end up with a player who will not give you 100% and next year will only be worth 2 million. I think we all agree Lambert deserves the chance to play for the club he has supported all his life, lets not forget Cortese nearly sold him to West Spam.
Actually this isn't true. Look at Suarez last season who was desperate to leave Liverpool yet when the club stood firm he got on with it and was the Prems start player.
The reason Suarez stayed is because they are paying him £200,000 a week and promised him champions league football.
SFC have stated their plans are to bring champions league football to ST MARY'S. The only difference is LIVERPOOL DID NOT SELL THEIR BEST PLAYERS.
Suarez could of moved to a top club and drawn those wages and played in the champions league but , his club said " NOT FOR SALE" .
[quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Berkshire Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ere-we-go[/bold] wrote: What a load of horse s**t. The answer could quite easily have been NO! The bottom line is, don't make statements then go against them a matter of hours later. You are being made to look like fools and at the same time irritating the hell out of the supporters.[/p][/quote]The only problem with saying no when a player wants to go is you end up with a player who will not give you 100% and next year will only be worth 2 million. I think we all agree Lambert deserves the chance to play for the club he has supported all his life, lets not forget Cortese nearly sold him to West Spam.[/p][/quote]Actually this isn't true. Look at Suarez last season who was desperate to leave Liverpool yet when the club stood firm he got on with it and was the Prems start player.[/p][/quote]The reason Suarez stayed is because they are paying him £200,000 a week and promised him champions league football.[/p][/quote]SFC have stated their plans are to bring champions league football to ST MARY'S. The only difference is LIVERPOOL DID NOT SELL THEIR BEST PLAYERS. Suarez could of moved to a top club and drawn those wages and played in the champions league but , his club said " NOT FOR SALE" . hedge end bob
  • Score: 6

2:26pm Fri 30 May 14

allsaintsnocurves says...

If Liverpool wanted the deal before the world cup or they would go elsewhere then we say go elsewhere because he is one of our players and we are really looking forward to having him next season so bog off.

In the end we have rolled over but maybe to our credit we have allowed a player his dream move at the end of his career and £5m is pretty decent return for a 32 year old.
If Liverpool wanted the deal before the world cup or they would go elsewhere then we say go elsewhere because he is one of our players and we are really looking forward to having him next season so bog off. In the end we have rolled over but maybe to our credit we have allowed a player his dream move at the end of his career and £5m is pretty decent return for a 32 year old. allsaintsnocurves
  • Score: 11

2:28pm Fri 30 May 14

settheSTandard says...

Thursday 29th May an article in the echo quotes Krueger saying "Any transfers that take place will be under our terms. We will decide the terms to potential transfers in and out of the club."
Friday 30th May : This article says "Liverpool are understood to have insisted the deal took place before the end of the weekend, otherwise they would have to turn their attention elsewhere, saying they would be unwilling to wait until after the World Cup."
Please grow a pair will you Ralph. If Liverpool had said that to Cortese I think we all know what the response would have been.
Thursday 29th May an article in the echo quotes Krueger saying "Any transfers that take place will be under our terms. We will decide the terms to potential transfers in and out of the club." Friday 30th May : This article says "Liverpool are understood to have insisted the deal took place before the end of the weekend, otherwise they would have to turn their attention elsewhere, saying they would be unwilling to wait until after the World Cup." Please grow a pair will you Ralph. If Liverpool had said that to Cortese I think we all know what the response would have been. settheSTandard
  • Score: 7

2:32pm Fri 30 May 14

Realitycheck53 says...

Very faulty thinking by the board. They have now set the wrong precedent for player power. With no manager and no visible prospect of quality players coming in to replace and strengthen the team there is now nothing to stop a mass exodus by Hovrin, Wanyamama and Sniderlin. The right answer was "NO" and frankly to hell with how RL feels. Yes we are grateful to him but he should be equally grateful to Saints and be made to like it and lump it. Saints are now strikerless apart from a trainee, a crock and an exiled thug. My joy at seeing Saints players in the World Cup has evaporated and as far as I am concerned all three of them can FO!!!!
Very faulty thinking by the board. They have now set the wrong precedent for player power. With no manager and no visible prospect of quality players coming in to replace and strengthen the team there is now nothing to stop a mass exodus by Hovrin, Wanyamama and Sniderlin. The right answer was "NO" and frankly to hell with how RL feels. Yes we are grateful to him but he should be equally grateful to Saints and be made to like it and lump it. Saints are now strikerless apart from a trainee, a crock and an exiled thug. My joy at seeing Saints players in the World Cup has evaporated and as far as I am concerned all three of them can FO!!!! Realitycheck53
  • Score: 14

2:34pm Fri 30 May 14

MiltonRoad says...

I have some sympathy with the Board on this. The thing I don't get is why does he want to go? These days he scores a good percentage of his goals from penalties and fee kicks, neither of which he will get to take at Liverpool. Indeed, he won't even be first choice, which means he will be sitting on the bench, which means he will lose his fitness (something Saints gave him and which made him the player he is now rather than a League 1 player). And all this means hie will lose his "dream" place in the England squad. I can understand the romantic side of this deal but from a career perspective this seems like a disaster move for him. Maybe the big pay cheque and chance to warm the bench in the Champions League for his boyhood club is enough, but I find that surprising. Nonetheless, he has been magnificent for Saints and I wish him all the best.
I have some sympathy with the Board on this. The thing I don't get is why does he want to go? These days he scores a good percentage of his goals from penalties and fee kicks, neither of which he will get to take at Liverpool. Indeed, he won't even be first choice, which means he will be sitting on the bench, which means he will lose his fitness (something Saints gave him and which made him the player he is now rather than a League 1 player). And all this means hie will lose his "dream" place in the England squad. I can understand the romantic side of this deal but from a career perspective this seems like a disaster move for him. Maybe the big pay cheque and chance to warm the bench in the Champions League for his boyhood club is enough, but I find that surprising. Nonetheless, he has been magnificent for Saints and I wish him all the best. MiltonRoad
  • Score: 6

2:38pm Fri 30 May 14

mickey01 says...

good luck to him he has earned his place among the best and to play for your boyhood team must be a great feeling and at his age this will be his last chance even though he wont be playing week in week out
i dont know why clubs bother with contracts any more cos they don't seem to be worth the paper they are written on
good luck to him he has earned his place among the best and to play for your boyhood team must be a great feeling and at his age this will be his last chance even though he wont be playing week in week out i dont know why clubs bother with contracts any more cos they don't seem to be worth the paper they are written on mickey01
  • Score: 4

2:48pm Fri 30 May 14

nottinghamsaint 1 says...

markodarko29 wrote:
This is like going back to the days when Rupert was in charge,selling all the best players and lying to the fans .
Spot on
[quote][p][bold]markodarko29[/bold] wrote: This is like going back to the days when Rupert was in charge,selling all the best players and lying to the fans .[/p][/quote]Spot on nottinghamsaint 1
  • Score: 2

2:59pm Fri 30 May 14

Bugney13 says...

Has taken us on a memorable journey good luck to him
Timing is bad, but fans need to keep calm and let the dust settle.
Let's not turn into west ham.
Has taken us on a memorable journey good luck to him Timing is bad, but fans need to keep calm and let the dust settle. Let's not turn into west ham. Bugney13
  • Score: 5

3:01pm Fri 30 May 14

666sfc says...

Sale RL before the WC or we will look elsewhere....
So have Liverpool given the same ultimatum to the club regarding AL I wonder
Sale RL before the WC or we will look elsewhere.... So have Liverpool given the same ultimatum to the club regarding AL I wonder 666sfc
  • Score: 4

3:02pm Fri 30 May 14

BracknellSaint says...

OfficialSpudUk wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
No, the board just don't have any wits, or indeed nuts, about them.
Yet again, roll over, and get our belly tickled.
Embarrassed....
Oh please, another hysterical football fan! £5m for a 32 year old striker's a dream move is good business for the player and the club. Board had their hands tied by Liverpool and Rickie's desire for a dream move to his boyhood club. Calm down...Saints fans need to stop freaking out at every piece of news
Oh, riiiight...
So, losing the best manager in 30 years, then the legend who brought us up through the leagues for peanuts( By this I mean who will we be able to buy who can be the team's leader, score goals, never miss penalties, create hatfuls of chances for his team mates, and influence results as much as SRL, for 4-5 million? Seriously...) and if this 'free for all, stripping Saints of anything half decent' policy is carrying on,then Lallana( our heartbeat) as well as Lovren( real reason for our decent defence) and Shaw, Morgan, Jay, Victor etc. are all at risk of being flogged because the board (a) can't convince them of ambition, and (b) no balls to say no to an offer, then how do you suggest we stay happy , confident and excited?
Club needs to sort this out, and offer the transparency they've promised-not that I will believe it straight off again, after having been mugged off by Reed and Krueger already in the last couple of weeks.
[quote][p][bold]OfficialSpudUk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: No, the board just don't have any wits, or indeed nuts, about them. Yet again, roll over, and get our belly tickled. Embarrassed....[/p][/quote]Oh please, another hysterical football fan! £5m for a 32 year old striker's a dream move is good business for the player and the club. Board had their hands tied by Liverpool and Rickie's desire for a dream move to his boyhood club. Calm down...Saints fans need to stop freaking out at every piece of news[/p][/quote]Oh, riiiight... So, losing the best manager in 30 years, then the legend who brought us up through the leagues for peanuts( By this I mean who will we be able to buy who can be the team's leader, score goals, never miss penalties, create hatfuls of chances for his team mates, and influence results as much as SRL, for 4-5 million? Seriously...) and if this 'free for all, stripping Saints of anything half decent' policy is carrying on,then Lallana( our heartbeat) as well as Lovren( real reason for our decent defence) and Shaw, Morgan, Jay, Victor etc. are all at risk of being flogged because the board (a) can't convince them of ambition, and (b) no balls to say no to an offer, then how do you suggest we stay happy , confident and excited? Club needs to sort this out, and offer the transparency they've promised-not that I will believe it straight off again, after having been mugged off by Reed and Krueger already in the last couple of weeks. BracknellSaint
  • Score: 4

3:13pm Fri 30 May 14

J7junctionseven says...

Salalal wrote:
I don't like being lied to. I wonder if I can get the money back for the two season tickets I bought? I guess not. Poor Kat needs every penny she can get.
I tried to this morning ....no chance!
[quote][p][bold]Salalal[/bold] wrote: I don't like being lied to. I wonder if I can get the money back for the two season tickets I bought? I guess not. Poor Kat needs every penny she can get.[/p][/quote]I tried to this morning ....no chance! J7junctionseven
  • Score: 0

3:38pm Fri 30 May 14

knuckle dragger says...

hedge end bob wrote:
OfficialSpudUk wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
No, the board just don't have any wits, or indeed nuts, about them.
Yet again, roll over, and get our belly tickled.
Embarrassed....
Oh please, another hysterical football fan! £5m for a 32 year old striker's a dream move is good business for the player and the club. Board had their hands tied by Liverpool and Rickie's desire for a dream move to his boyhood club. Calm down...Saints fans need to stop freaking out at every piece of news
When every single bit of news is bad news what do you expect . I don't think any amount of money compensates what Rickie means to this team and the players in it. SFC have come out second best in this deal and should NOT be held too ransome by other clubs wanting our best players on the CHEAP.
How is every single bit of news bad? The players being sold will bring in money (good news) to spend on new players who might be just as good or even better than the ones departing.

Who would we like to see bought in?
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OfficialSpudUk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: No, the board just don't have any wits, or indeed nuts, about them. Yet again, roll over, and get our belly tickled. Embarrassed....[/p][/quote]Oh please, another hysterical football fan! £5m for a 32 year old striker's a dream move is good business for the player and the club. Board had their hands tied by Liverpool and Rickie's desire for a dream move to his boyhood club. Calm down...Saints fans need to stop freaking out at every piece of news[/p][/quote]When every single bit of news is bad news what do you expect . I don't think any amount of money compensates what Rickie means to this team and the players in it. SFC have come out second best in this deal and should NOT be held too ransome by other clubs wanting our best players on the CHEAP.[/p][/quote]How is every single bit of news bad? The players being sold will bring in money (good news) to spend on new players who might be just as good or even better than the ones departing. Who would we like to see bought in? knuckle dragger
  • Score: -4

3:48pm Fri 30 May 14

NewForestStu says...

knuckle dragger wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
OfficialSpudUk wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
No, the board just don't have any wits, or indeed nuts, about them.
Yet again, roll over, and get our belly tickled.
Embarrassed....
Oh please, another hysterical football fan! £5m for a 32 year old striker's a dream move is good business for the player and the club. Board had their hands tied by Liverpool and Rickie's desire for a dream move to his boyhood club. Calm down...Saints fans need to stop freaking out at every piece of news
When every single bit of news is bad news what do you expect . I don't think any amount of money compensates what Rickie means to this team and the players in it. SFC have come out second best in this deal and should NOT be held too ransome by other clubs wanting our best players on the CHEAP.
How is every single bit of news bad? The players being sold will bring in money (good news) to spend on new players who might be just as good or even better than the ones departing.

Who would we like to see bought in?
Cortese
[quote][p][bold]knuckle dragger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OfficialSpudUk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: No, the board just don't have any wits, or indeed nuts, about them. Yet again, roll over, and get our belly tickled. Embarrassed....[/p][/quote]Oh please, another hysterical football fan! £5m for a 32 year old striker's a dream move is good business for the player and the club. Board had their hands tied by Liverpool and Rickie's desire for a dream move to his boyhood club. Calm down...Saints fans need to stop freaking out at every piece of news[/p][/quote]When every single bit of news is bad news what do you expect . I don't think any amount of money compensates what Rickie means to this team and the players in it. SFC have come out second best in this deal and should NOT be held too ransome by other clubs wanting our best players on the CHEAP.[/p][/quote]How is every single bit of news bad? The players being sold will bring in money (good news) to spend on new players who might be just as good or even better than the ones departing. Who would we like to see bought in?[/p][/quote]Cortese NewForestStu
  • Score: 3

3:49pm Fri 30 May 14

GerrySaint says...

The Krueger assurances of 48 hours ago have a very hollow ring about them now. We have been let down by an inexperienced and shallow Board who seem to say one thing and do another.
We have given the footballing world the impression that they can poach our players at will and the selling of our England Striker for £4m is clearly a nonsense in today's market. His presence at the club and his ability to help our younger players over the next few years would have been invaluable.
How can we retain the confidence of the rest of the squad when we show such little backbone to another club. What must our other stars be thinking?
As for the credibility of Krueger himself well I for one have no confidence in anything he says. He should apologise to the loyal fans and supporters who give their hard earned money to watch the team play.
I regret renewing my season ticket after fifteen years of solid support for the club.
The Krueger assurances of 48 hours ago have a very hollow ring about them now. We have been let down by an inexperienced and shallow Board who seem to say one thing and do another. We have given the footballing world the impression that they can poach our players at will and the selling of our England Striker for £4m is clearly a nonsense in today's market. His presence at the club and his ability to help our younger players over the next few years would have been invaluable. How can we retain the confidence of the rest of the squad when we show such little backbone to another club. What must our other stars be thinking? As for the credibility of Krueger himself well I for one have no confidence in anything he says. He should apologise to the loyal fans and supporters who give their hard earned money to watch the team play. I regret renewing my season ticket after fifteen years of solid support for the club. GerrySaint
  • Score: 1

3:51pm Fri 30 May 14

Scarborosaint says...

Rickie Lambert has been the best thing since slice bread for us over the last 4 seasons but at 32 he is in the final 3 years of his careers and a move to your boyhood team does not come around every day. The board would be crazy to stand in his way and to have an unhappy player would be counter productive to both player and club.
Those fans slagging of the owner and the board get in the real world. I hope that lallana and shaw who are lets be honest are our star assets will be made to stay until at least the new manager is in place.
hopefully that will next week and then we can judge the ambition of the club and board.
Rickie Lambert has been the best thing since slice bread for us over the last 4 seasons but at 32 he is in the final 3 years of his careers and a move to your boyhood team does not come around every day. The board would be crazy to stand in his way and to have an unhappy player would be counter productive to both player and club. Those fans slagging of the owner and the board get in the real world. I hope that lallana and shaw who are lets be honest are our star assets will be made to stay until at least the new manager is in place. hopefully that will next week and then we can judge the ambition of the club and board. Scarborosaint
  • Score: 8

3:53pm Fri 30 May 14

Santa Retfordia says...

What if Rickie's the only one to go? Would fans consider that a decent summer?
What if Rickie's the only one to go? Would fans consider that a decent summer? Santa Retfordia
  • Score: 11

3:53pm Fri 30 May 14

TGodSFC says...

I can understand people’s anger and frustration but shouting rubbish at the board isn’t the way forward. This is a special situation unlike the other rumours flying about, one that if we had said no would have cause way more problems. Ricky has been a great servant to us and I for one and really pleased the old boy gets to see out his career with his club. Think about it this way, if you were playing for Liverpool and saints came in for a bid for you at the same age, would you not want to go? Chill out people.
I can understand people’s anger and frustration but shouting rubbish at the board isn’t the way forward. This is a special situation unlike the other rumours flying about, one that if we had said no would have cause way more problems. Ricky has been a great servant to us and I for one and really pleased the old boy gets to see out his career with his club. Think about it this way, if you were playing for Liverpool and saints came in for a bid for you at the same age, would you not want to go? Chill out people. TGodSFC
  • Score: 5

3:57pm Fri 30 May 14

paulsfc says...

Only two possible reasons for this 1) the board are out of their depth and totally naive and they have been mugged off by more experienced operators at Spurs and LFC or 2) this is all part of their plan and they are embarking on an asset striping exercise, either way you can't replace 15 goal a season striker for 4m and no other player will be convinced to stay when we have no manager sorted and the almost inevitable departure of our top players. The fans have been lied to again yet expected to hand over hard earned cash without a question being asked for season tickets. Anyone who sees the positives in this situation needs to wake up as you are as naive as the board. Being deluded and refusing to admit reality is not being 'a real fan' it's being a ****.
Only two possible reasons for this 1) the board are out of their depth and totally naive and they have been mugged off by more experienced operators at Spurs and LFC or 2) this is all part of their plan and they are embarking on an asset striping exercise, either way you can't replace 15 goal a season striker for 4m and no other player will be convinced to stay when we have no manager sorted and the almost inevitable departure of our top players. The fans have been lied to again yet expected to hand over hard earned cash without a question being asked for season tickets. Anyone who sees the positives in this situation needs to wake up as you are as naive as the board. Being deluded and refusing to admit reality is not being 'a real fan' it's being a ****. paulsfc
  • Score: -6

4:00pm Fri 30 May 14

Rising_Son says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
What if Rickie's the only one to go? Would fans consider that a decent summer?
Yes.

I like Rickie. His contribution has been enormous. I also have enough respect for him to let him go if that is what he wants. He deserves that.
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: What if Rickie's the only one to go? Would fans consider that a decent summer?[/p][/quote]Yes. I like Rickie. His contribution has been enormous. I also have enough respect for him to let him go if that is what he wants. He deserves that. Rising_Son
  • Score: 9

4:11pm Fri 30 May 14

NewForestStu says...

knuckle dragger wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
OfficialSpudUk wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
No, the board just don't have any wits, or indeed nuts, about them.
Yet again, roll over, and get our belly tickled.
Embarrassed....
Oh please, another hysterical football fan! £5m for a 32 year old striker's a dream move is good business for the player and the club. Board had their hands tied by Liverpool and Rickie's desire for a dream move to his boyhood club. Calm down...Saints fans need to stop freaking out at every piece of news
When every single bit of news is bad news what do you expect . I don't think any amount of money compensates what Rickie means to this team and the players in it. SFC have come out second best in this deal and should NOT be held too ransome by other clubs wanting our best players on the CHEAP.
How is every single bit of news bad? The players being sold will bring in money (good news) to spend on new players who might be just as good or even better than the ones departing.

Who would we like to see bought in?
Let me put it to you, who would you think can improve the squad in the strikers role for circa 5M?

Not having a pop, and seriously can accept Rickies last chance and all that....great servant etc however what annoys me the most now is the blatant porkies that are coming out.

Yes we could find a gem for 5M but realistically its not just the goals, it wad the whole comeraderie thing that we are losing and that is my major concern
[quote][p][bold]knuckle dragger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OfficialSpudUk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: No, the board just don't have any wits, or indeed nuts, about them. Yet again, roll over, and get our belly tickled. Embarrassed....[/p][/quote]Oh please, another hysterical football fan! £5m for a 32 year old striker's a dream move is good business for the player and the club. Board had their hands tied by Liverpool and Rickie's desire for a dream move to his boyhood club. Calm down...Saints fans need to stop freaking out at every piece of news[/p][/quote]When every single bit of news is bad news what do you expect . I don't think any amount of money compensates what Rickie means to this team and the players in it. SFC have come out second best in this deal and should NOT be held too ransome by other clubs wanting our best players on the CHEAP.[/p][/quote]How is every single bit of news bad? The players being sold will bring in money (good news) to spend on new players who might be just as good or even better than the ones departing. Who would we like to see bought in?[/p][/quote]Let me put it to you, who would you think can improve the squad in the strikers role for circa 5M? Not having a pop, and seriously can accept Rickies last chance and all that....great servant etc however what annoys me the most now is the blatant porkies that are coming out. Yes we could find a gem for 5M but realistically its not just the goals, it wad the whole comeraderie thing that we are losing and that is my major concern NewForestStu
  • Score: 2

4:15pm Fri 30 May 14

saintajd says...

knuckle dragger wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
OfficialSpudUk wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
No, the board just don't have any wits, or indeed nuts, about them.
Yet again, roll over, and get our belly tickled.
Embarrassed....
Oh please, another hysterical football fan! £5m for a 32 year old striker's a dream move is good business for the player and the club. Board had their hands tied by Liverpool and Rickie's desire for a dream move to his boyhood club. Calm down...Saints fans need to stop freaking out at every piece of news
When every single bit of news is bad news what do you expect . I don't think any amount of money compensates what Rickie means to this team and the players in it. SFC have come out second best in this deal and should NOT be held too ransome by other clubs wanting our best players on the CHEAP.
How is every single bit of news bad? The players being sold will bring in money (good news) to spend on new players who might be just as good or even better than the ones departing.

Who would we like to see bought in?
How can we bring in players who are just as good or better, when the board haven't even got a shortlist of managers to replace poch, therefore no one to stand in the way of additional sales. Any thought of high quality managers / players coming in is rapidly dissolving before our very eyes!!
[quote][p][bold]knuckle dragger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OfficialSpudUk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: No, the board just don't have any wits, or indeed nuts, about them. Yet again, roll over, and get our belly tickled. Embarrassed....[/p][/quote]Oh please, another hysterical football fan! £5m for a 32 year old striker's a dream move is good business for the player and the club. Board had their hands tied by Liverpool and Rickie's desire for a dream move to his boyhood club. Calm down...Saints fans need to stop freaking out at every piece of news[/p][/quote]When every single bit of news is bad news what do you expect . I don't think any amount of money compensates what Rickie means to this team and the players in it. SFC have come out second best in this deal and should NOT be held too ransome by other clubs wanting our best players on the CHEAP.[/p][/quote]How is every single bit of news bad? The players being sold will bring in money (good news) to spend on new players who might be just as good or even better than the ones departing. Who would we like to see bought in?[/p][/quote]How can we bring in players who are just as good or better, when the board haven't even got a shortlist of managers to replace poch, therefore no one to stand in the way of additional sales. Any thought of high quality managers / players coming in is rapidly dissolving before our very eyes!! saintajd
  • Score: 0

4:15pm Fri 30 May 14

Scarborosaint says...

NewForestStu wrote:
knuckle dragger wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
OfficialSpudUk wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote: No, the board just don't have any wits, or indeed nuts, about them. Yet again, roll over, and get our belly tickled. Embarrassed....
Oh please, another hysterical football fan! £5m for a 32 year old striker's a dream move is good business for the player and the club. Board had their hands tied by Liverpool and Rickie's desire for a dream move to his boyhood club. Calm down...Saints fans need to stop freaking out at every piece of news
When every single bit of news is bad news what do you expect . I don't think any amount of money compensates what Rickie means to this team and the players in it. SFC have come out second best in this deal and should NOT be held too ransome by other clubs wanting our best players on the CHEAP.
How is every single bit of news bad? The players being sold will bring in money (good news) to spend on new players who might be just as good or even better than the ones departing. Who would we like to see bought in?
Cortese
I would like to see saints make statment of intent and get lukaku
[quote][p][bold]NewForestStu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]knuckle dragger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OfficialSpudUk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: No, the board just don't have any wits, or indeed nuts, about them. Yet again, roll over, and get our belly tickled. Embarrassed....[/p][/quote]Oh please, another hysterical football fan! £5m for a 32 year old striker's a dream move is good business for the player and the club. Board had their hands tied by Liverpool and Rickie's desire for a dream move to his boyhood club. Calm down...Saints fans need to stop freaking out at every piece of news[/p][/quote]When every single bit of news is bad news what do you expect . I don't think any amount of money compensates what Rickie means to this team and the players in it. SFC have come out second best in this deal and should NOT be held too ransome by other clubs wanting our best players on the CHEAP.[/p][/quote]How is every single bit of news bad? The players being sold will bring in money (good news) to spend on new players who might be just as good or even better than the ones departing. Who would we like to see bought in?[/p][/quote]Cortese[/p][/quote]I would like to see saints make statment of intent and get lukaku Scarborosaint
  • Score: 3

4:28pm Fri 30 May 14

aldermoorboy says...

Good luck Rickie you are a great player/man.

Saints will have a very successful season, believe.
Good luck Rickie you are a great player/man. Saints will have a very successful season, believe. aldermoorboy
  • Score: 4

4:38pm Fri 30 May 14

Mister E says...

montecristosaint wrote:
I said it when I first heard him speak after appointment Ralph Kruger is clueless. He doesnt understand english football, this is not an american franchise but a club that is at the centre of people s lives.People slated me when I cam out and criticized Liebherr for letting Cortese go but I am willing to bet there are some very red faces in Southampton now. Krueger has no business experience, what is he doing as chairman of a football club.The board knew weeks ago that Pochettino was going to leave why didnt they then work on finding a replacement? Does anyone think that Cortese would for one second let things slide to this extent and not have a replacement lined up? Krueger was brought in for his ability to deal with PR but he as convincing as Genghis Khan in a strip club.The same goes for Reed how relevant is his CV to the job he is supposed to be doing? These are two yes men Liebherr is stripping the club before our very eyes. What people dont seem to understand is that Southampton will still be worth 100 million after all the best players have gone but would not have been worth more than 150 million if sold now as a going concern, I do not believe that Liebherr is here for the long term. Give it three months she will be gone. My only hope is that someone who might be interested in buying a football than this woman who inherited daddy s plaything will come in and make her an offer she cannot refuse. And I would add this warning for Liebherr. Her father built a reputation in Southampton,She is doing her level best to destroy it in five minutes, exactly what impact does she think this debacle will have on the rest of her business??? I think I know the answer and my advice to her is to cut her losses now and get out of the football club.
Get over yourself!
Let Cortese go? HE left, HIS choice!
HE decided to leave. He's gone, so pointless to say what may or may not have happened if he'd remained!
The board knew weeks ago MoPo was leaving ......why didn't they start working on finding a replacement? Really? Doh!
There's been a queue forming for weeks! They need to appoint soon for sure, speedy yes, but haste NO!
Katharina is out to destroy her Father's legacy? What utter tripe!
If she, they, we're just after money, they'd make far, FAR more selling the club as whole rather than selling assets individually!
Rickie's situation is quite different to Lallana's & Shaw's!
He's been fantastic (what an understatement!) for us. Once he was aware of their interest, how could he refuse? At his time of life & career? Come off it! Only an ignorant, short sighted, not to mention hard hearted, fool would insist he stays! He's earned this last hurrah and at his home town club to boot!
I say fair play Rickie, thank you for everything, a model pro, a true gent and humble with it. What a role model! How could anyone begrudge you this move?
Liverpool, you've bought a diamond!
To the board: well done! You've been fair to him at a difficult time for the club.
I think that shows integrity!
£5M plus add ons, not bad for a player at his age and stage of career!
Rickie, you'll get the warmest of receptions whenever you visit St. Mary's!
Come on, let's debate and moan but, let's retain a grip on reality!
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: I said it when I first heard him speak after appointment Ralph Kruger is clueless. He doesnt understand english football, this is not an american franchise but a club that is at the centre of people s lives.People slated me when I cam out and criticized Liebherr for letting Cortese go but I am willing to bet there are some very red faces in Southampton now. Krueger has no business experience, what is he doing as chairman of a football club.The board knew weeks ago that Pochettino was going to leave why didnt they then work on finding a replacement? Does anyone think that Cortese would for one second let things slide to this extent and not have a replacement lined up? Krueger was brought in for his ability to deal with PR but he as convincing as Genghis Khan in a strip club.The same goes for Reed how relevant is his CV to the job he is supposed to be doing? These are two yes men Liebherr is stripping the club before our very eyes. What people dont seem to understand is that Southampton will still be worth 100 million after all the best players have gone but would not have been worth more than 150 million if sold now as a going concern, I do not believe that Liebherr is here for the long term. Give it three months she will be gone. My only hope is that someone who might be interested in buying a football than this woman who inherited daddy s plaything will come in and make her an offer she cannot refuse. And I would add this warning for Liebherr. Her father built a reputation in Southampton,She is doing her level best to destroy it in five minutes, exactly what impact does she think this debacle will have on the rest of her business??? I think I know the answer and my advice to her is to cut her losses now and get out of the football club.[/p][/quote]Get over yourself! Let Cortese go? HE left, HIS choice! HE decided to leave. He's gone, so pointless to say what may or may not have happened if he'd remained! The board knew weeks ago MoPo was leaving ......why didn't they start working on finding a replacement? Really? Doh! There's been a queue forming for weeks! They need to appoint soon for sure, speedy yes, but haste NO! Katharina is out to destroy her Father's legacy? What utter tripe! If she, they, we're just after money, they'd make far, FAR more selling the club as whole rather than selling assets individually! Rickie's situation is quite different to Lallana's & Shaw's! He's been fantastic (what an understatement!) for us. Once he was aware of their interest, how could he refuse? At his time of life & career? Come off it! Only an ignorant, short sighted, not to mention hard hearted, fool would insist he stays! He's earned this last hurrah and at his home town club to boot! I say fair play Rickie, thank you for everything, a model pro, a true gent and humble with it. What a role model! How could anyone begrudge you this move? Liverpool, you've bought a diamond! To the board: well done! You've been fair to him at a difficult time for the club. I think that shows integrity! £5M plus add ons, not bad for a player at his age and stage of career! Rickie, you'll get the warmest of receptions whenever you visit St. Mary's! Come on, let's debate and moan but, let's retain a grip on reality! Mister E
  • Score: 15

4:44pm Fri 30 May 14

knuckle dragger says...

NewForestStu wrote:
knuckle dragger wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
OfficialSpudUk wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
No, the board just don't have any wits, or indeed nuts, about them.
Yet again, roll over, and get our belly tickled.
Embarrassed....
Oh please, another hysterical football fan! £5m for a 32 year old striker's a dream move is good business for the player and the club. Board had their hands tied by Liverpool and Rickie's desire for a dream move to his boyhood club. Calm down...Saints fans need to stop freaking out at every piece of news
When every single bit of news is bad news what do you expect . I don't think any amount of money compensates what Rickie means to this team and the players in it. SFC have come out second best in this deal and should NOT be held too ransome by other clubs wanting our best players on the CHEAP.
How is every single bit of news bad? The players being sold will bring in money (good news) to spend on new players who might be just as good or even better than the ones departing.

Who would we like to see bought in?
Let me put it to you, who would you think can improve the squad in the strikers role for circa 5M?

Not having a pop, and seriously can accept Rickies last chance and all that....great servant etc however what annoys me the most now is the blatant porkies that are coming out.

Yes we could find a gem for 5M but realistically its not just the goals, it wad the whole comeraderie thing that we are losing and that is my major concern
It's not just about the £5 million for RL. I read somewhere there was a transfer budget of £30 million being made available to Poch before he quit, if true then there is now £35 million in the kitty plus if Lallana and Shaw go then there will be significant funds available. If the £30 million is wrong but Lallana and Shaw still go then there will still be a sizeable budget available to whoever the new manager is.

So open question to everyone, who would you like the new manager to sign?
[quote][p][bold]NewForestStu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]knuckle dragger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OfficialSpudUk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: No, the board just don't have any wits, or indeed nuts, about them. Yet again, roll over, and get our belly tickled. Embarrassed....[/p][/quote]Oh please, another hysterical football fan! £5m for a 32 year old striker's a dream move is good business for the player and the club. Board had their hands tied by Liverpool and Rickie's desire for a dream move to his boyhood club. Calm down...Saints fans need to stop freaking out at every piece of news[/p][/quote]When every single bit of news is bad news what do you expect . I don't think any amount of money compensates what Rickie means to this team and the players in it. SFC have come out second best in this deal and should NOT be held too ransome by other clubs wanting our best players on the CHEAP.[/p][/quote]How is every single bit of news bad? The players being sold will bring in money (good news) to spend on new players who might be just as good or even better than the ones departing. Who would we like to see bought in?[/p][/quote]Let me put it to you, who would you think can improve the squad in the strikers role for circa 5M? Not having a pop, and seriously can accept Rickies last chance and all that....great servant etc however what annoys me the most now is the blatant porkies that are coming out. Yes we could find a gem for 5M but realistically its not just the goals, it wad the whole comeraderie thing that we are losing and that is my major concern[/p][/quote]It's not just about the £5 million for RL. I read somewhere there was a transfer budget of £30 million being made available to Poch before he quit, if true then there is now £35 million in the kitty plus if Lallana and Shaw go then there will be significant funds available. If the £30 million is wrong but Lallana and Shaw still go then there will still be a sizeable budget available to whoever the new manager is. So open question to everyone, who would you like the new manager to sign? knuckle dragger
  • Score: 2

4:45pm Fri 30 May 14

THE12THMAN says...

hedge end bob wrote:
THE12THMAN wrote:
Berkshire Saint wrote:
THE12THMAN wrote:
ere-we-go wrote:
What a load of horse s**t. The answer could quite easily have been NO! The bottom line is, don't make statements then go against them a matter of hours later.

You are being made to look like fools and at the same time irritating the hell out of the supporters.
The only problem with saying no when a player wants to go is you end up with a player who will not give you 100% and next year will only be worth 2 million. I think we all agree Lambert deserves the chance to play for the club he has supported all his life, lets not forget Cortese nearly sold him to West Spam.
Actually this isn't true. Look at Suarez last season who was desperate to leave Liverpool yet when the club stood firm he got on with it and was the Prems start player.
The reason Suarez stayed is because they are paying him £200,000 a week and promised him champions league football.
SFC have stated their plans are to bring champions league football to ST MARY'S. The only difference is LIVERPOOL DID NOT SELL THEIR BEST PLAYERS.
Suarez could of moved to a top club and drawn those wages and played in the champions league but , his club said " NOT FOR SALE" .
Liverpool pay better wages than SAINTS so it is easier to keep your top players, by the way Lambert is not a top player anymore.
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Berkshire Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ere-we-go[/bold] wrote: What a load of horse s**t. The answer could quite easily have been NO! The bottom line is, don't make statements then go against them a matter of hours later. You are being made to look like fools and at the same time irritating the hell out of the supporters.[/p][/quote]The only problem with saying no when a player wants to go is you end up with a player who will not give you 100% and next year will only be worth 2 million. I think we all agree Lambert deserves the chance to play for the club he has supported all his life, lets not forget Cortese nearly sold him to West Spam.[/p][/quote]Actually this isn't true. Look at Suarez last season who was desperate to leave Liverpool yet when the club stood firm he got on with it and was the Prems start player.[/p][/quote]The reason Suarez stayed is because they are paying him £200,000 a week and promised him champions league football.[/p][/quote]SFC have stated their plans are to bring champions league football to ST MARY'S. The only difference is LIVERPOOL DID NOT SELL THEIR BEST PLAYERS. Suarez could of moved to a top club and drawn those wages and played in the champions league but , his club said " NOT FOR SALE" .[/p][/quote]Liverpool pay better wages than SAINTS so it is easier to keep your top players, by the way Lambert is not a top player anymore. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 3

4:47pm Fri 30 May 14

flower49 says...

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  • Score: 0

4:49pm Fri 30 May 14

rednwhite72 says...

I completely understand the situation here with Ricky and the club and I think after all is said and done I believe it is in the best interests of both the club and the player. Good Luck RL you have been fanatastic for us, I hope the move and your world cup provide you with all that a footballing could wish in terms of his career, you deserve it...!
Saints till I Die!!!
I completely understand the situation here with Ricky and the club and I think after all is said and done I believe it is in the best interests of both the club and the player. Good Luck RL you have been fanatastic for us, I hope the move and your world cup provide you with all that a footballing could wish in terms of his career, you deserve it...! Saints till I Die!!! rednwhite72
  • Score: 3

5:15pm Fri 30 May 14

saint Compo says...

So much for Saints being 'in control' of the comings and goings of Saints players during the transfer window. Bu**sh**!

COYR
So much for Saints being 'in control' of the comings and goings of Saints players during the transfer window. Bu**sh**! COYR saint Compo
  • Score: -1

5:16pm Fri 30 May 14

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

Yea will flog the Old Men first and perhaps we will get a really keen offer for the other two lads!
Yea will flog the Old Men first and perhaps we will get a really keen offer for the other two lads! Fatty x Ford Worker
  • Score: 0

5:18pm Fri 30 May 14

Folkestone Saint says...

It's not SRL going, it's the timing, he will been seen as a livermoan player in the World cup listings before even going to the club, that will hurt as it was us that took the chance on him and brought him (and him us) up through the leagues, whilst the lazy parasites at the top of the league cant be botherd to develope players.
It's not SRL going, it's the timing, he will been seen as a livermoan player in the World cup listings before even going to the club, that will hurt as it was us that took the chance on him and brought him (and him us) up through the leagues, whilst the lazy parasites at the top of the league cant be botherd to develope players. Folkestone Saint
  • Score: 6

5:22pm Fri 30 May 14

Skating on thin ice says...

montecristosaint wrote:
I said it when I first heard him speak after appointment Ralph Kruger is clueless. He doesnt understand english football, this is not an american franchise but a club that is at the centre of people s lives.People slated me when I cam out and criticized Liebherr for letting Cortese go but I am willing to bet there are some very red faces in Southampton now. Krueger has no business experience, what is he doing as chairman of a football club.The board knew weeks ago that Pochettino was going to leave why didnt they then work on finding a replacement? Does anyone think that Cortese would for one second let things slide to this extent and not have a replacement lined up? Krueger was brought in for his ability to deal with PR but he as convincing as Genghis Khan in a strip club.The same goes for Reed how relevant is his CV to the job he is supposed to be doing? These are two yes men Liebherr is stripping the club before our very eyes. What people dont seem to understand is that Southampton will still be worth 100 million after all the best players have gone but would not have been worth more than 150 million if sold now as a going concern, I do not believe that Liebherr is here for the long term. Give it three months she will be gone. My only hope is that someone who might be interested in buying a football than this woman who inherited daddy s plaything will come in and make her an offer she cannot refuse. And I would add this warning for Liebherr. Her father built a reputation in Southampton,She is doing her level best to destroy it in five minutes, exactly what impact does she think this debacle will have on the rest of her business??? I think I know the answer and my advice to her is to cut her losses now and get out of the football club.
A very good summary. There is no evidence that Kit Kat has any independent achievements of her own; her only claim to fame is that she inherited her father's money. Now that she has finished liquidating all her other business interests she has turned her full attention to your club. It looks like she'll strip the assets faster than you can say MALI MOTAN!

So a wealthy foreign owner suddenly stops bankrolling their club and instead starts raising money by selling assets? It happened to us in 2009, now it is your turn.
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: I said it when I first heard him speak after appointment Ralph Kruger is clueless. He doesnt understand english football, this is not an american franchise but a club that is at the centre of people s lives.People slated me when I cam out and criticized Liebherr for letting Cortese go but I am willing to bet there are some very red faces in Southampton now. Krueger has no business experience, what is he doing as chairman of a football club.The board knew weeks ago that Pochettino was going to leave why didnt they then work on finding a replacement? Does anyone think that Cortese would for one second let things slide to this extent and not have a replacement lined up? Krueger was brought in for his ability to deal with PR but he as convincing as Genghis Khan in a strip club.The same goes for Reed how relevant is his CV to the job he is supposed to be doing? These are two yes men Liebherr is stripping the club before our very eyes. What people dont seem to understand is that Southampton will still be worth 100 million after all the best players have gone but would not have been worth more than 150 million if sold now as a going concern, I do not believe that Liebherr is here for the long term. Give it three months she will be gone. My only hope is that someone who might be interested in buying a football than this woman who inherited daddy s plaything will come in and make her an offer she cannot refuse. And I would add this warning for Liebherr. Her father built a reputation in Southampton,She is doing her level best to destroy it in five minutes, exactly what impact does she think this debacle will have on the rest of her business??? I think I know the answer and my advice to her is to cut her losses now and get out of the football club.[/p][/quote]A very good summary. There is no evidence that Kit Kat has any independent achievements of her own; her only claim to fame is that she inherited her father's money. Now that she has finished liquidating all her other business interests she has turned her full attention to your club. It looks like she'll strip the assets faster than you can say MALI MOTAN! So a wealthy foreign owner suddenly stops bankrolling their club and instead starts raising money by selling assets? It happened to us in 2009, now it is your turn. Skating on thin ice
  • Score: -4

5:22pm Fri 30 May 14

Folkestone Saint says...

OfficialSpudUk wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
No, the board just don't have any wits, or indeed nuts, about them.
Yet again, roll over, and get our belly tickled.
Embarrassed....
Oh please, another hysterical football fan! £5m for a 32 year old striker's a dream move is good business for the player and the club. Board had their hands tied by Liverpool and Rickie's desire for a dream move to his boyhood club. Calm down...Saints fans need to stop freaking out at every piece of news
So when Sol Cambel (who was out of contract ) leaves you all sulked and turned your back on him and gave him death threats after years of service.
Definition of a hypocrite? look in the mirror
[quote][p][bold]OfficialSpudUk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: No, the board just don't have any wits, or indeed nuts, about them. Yet again, roll over, and get our belly tickled. Embarrassed....[/p][/quote]Oh please, another hysterical football fan! £5m for a 32 year old striker's a dream move is good business for the player and the club. Board had their hands tied by Liverpool and Rickie's desire for a dream move to his boyhood club. Calm down...Saints fans need to stop freaking out at every piece of news[/p][/quote]So when Sol Cambel (who was out of contract ) leaves you all sulked and turned your back on him and gave him death threats after years of service. Definition of a hypocrite? look in the mirror Folkestone Saint
  • Score: 1

5:24pm Fri 30 May 14

Portland Saint says...

Folkestone Saint wrote:
It's not SRL going, it's the timing, he will been seen as a livermoan player in the World cup listings before even going to the club, that will hurt as it was us that took the chance on him and brought him (and him us) up through the leagues, whilst the lazy parasites at the top of the league cant be botherd to develope players.
I don't think that the transfer window, for players on contracts, opens until 1st July so while an agreement may be signed SRL may still be a saints player at the World Cup
[quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: It's not SRL going, it's the timing, he will been seen as a livermoan player in the World cup listings before even going to the club, that will hurt as it was us that took the chance on him and brought him (and him us) up through the leagues, whilst the lazy parasites at the top of the league cant be botherd to develope players.[/p][/quote]I don't think that the transfer window, for players on contracts, opens until 1st July so while an agreement may be signed SRL may still be a saints player at the World Cup Portland Saint
  • Score: 2

5:25pm Fri 30 May 14

NC Fan4Life says...

THE SAME CAN BE SAID FOR EVERY PLAYER WHEN THEY NOW ALL ASK TO SPEAK TO OTHER CLUBS, WHEN WILL IT END, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO TELL THE OTHER BIG CLUBS WHERE TO GO ?

WE MUST KEEP THE OTHERS.
THE SAME CAN BE SAID FOR EVERY PLAYER WHEN THEY NOW ALL ASK TO SPEAK TO OTHER CLUBS, WHEN WILL IT END, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO TELL THE OTHER BIG CLUBS WHERE TO GO ? WE MUST KEEP THE OTHERS. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 3

5:27pm Fri 30 May 14

Skating on thin ice says...

Cheer up everyone! It's May 31 tomorrow, which is the day that Juventus send Osvaldo back to you. Obviously Krueger is impressed by the fact that Osvaldo is the ONLY Saints player to win a league championship winners' medal - not just from your current squad, but EVER. It's Osvaldo who'll be leading your "offensive roster" next season.
Cheer up everyone! It's May 31 tomorrow, which is the day that Juventus send Osvaldo back to you. Obviously Krueger is impressed by the fact that Osvaldo is the ONLY Saints player to win a league championship winners' medal - not just from your current squad, but EVER. It's Osvaldo who'll be leading your "offensive roster" next season. Skating on thin ice
  • Score: -2

5:33pm Fri 30 May 14

cpnhadock says...

I wish sir Rickie all the very best! To be honest he has been a model pro at the club, an inspiration on the pitch and a talent that has graced us for 5 years loyally.

However, it does contradict what RK said yesterday....... I hope he doesn't interpret 'high calibre manager with ambitions of Europe' to be an Ian holloway, redknapp or mcclaren

Coyr!
I wish sir Rickie all the very best! To be honest he has been a model pro at the club, an inspiration on the pitch and a talent that has graced us for 5 years loyally. However, it does contradict what RK said yesterday....... I hope he doesn't interpret 'high calibre manager with ambitions of Europe' to be an Ian holloway, redknapp or mcclaren Coyr! cpnhadock
  • Score: 2

5:39pm Fri 30 May 14

upwherewebelong says...

I've given up trying to fathom out what on earth is going on at the club. Seems the only thing I can believe is that the fans support and love for the club will remain constant. As far as rumours, counter rumours and counter rumours to the counter rumours goes I surrender that the media's venomous anti Saints campaign will last the whole summer and nothing the club do or say will prevent it. Even the Echo seems staunchly anti Saints but at least cancelling my subscription should make a little ripple to them.
I've given up trying to fathom out what on earth is going on at the club. Seems the only thing I can believe is that the fans support and love for the club will remain constant. As far as rumours, counter rumours and counter rumours to the counter rumours goes I surrender that the media's venomous anti Saints campaign will last the whole summer and nothing the club do or say will prevent it. Even the Echo seems staunchly anti Saints but at least cancelling my subscription should make a little ripple to them. upwherewebelong
  • Score: 4

5:46pm Fri 30 May 14

djlman says...

InCortesewetrust wrote:
ruck off krugger you total phallus! Lieing Cnunt!
Don't you 'puck' off?
[quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: ruck off krugger you total phallus! Lieing Cnunt![/p][/quote]Don't you 'puck' off? djlman
  • Score: 0

6:03pm Fri 30 May 14

allsaintsnocurves says...

The problem is there is no good news for Saints at the moment and that is painful. It's all doom and gloom and others are revelling in it. The fact is we have been here before and in a lot worse situations and come through them better and stronger.

Saints need to announce a big name as manager who then states his intention of speaking to all the players with the view of keeping them together at the club.
The problem is there is no good news for Saints at the moment and that is painful. It's all doom and gloom and others are revelling in it. The fact is we have been here before and in a lot worse situations and come through them better and stronger. Saints need to announce a big name as manager who then states his intention of speaking to all the players with the view of keeping them together at the club. allsaintsnocurves
  • Score: 3

6:08pm Fri 30 May 14

SAINTS FRIEND says...

I think RL has forgotten that we took him from oblivion Bristol Rovers,got him fit paid him £50 to £60.000 a week,and helped him achieve his dream of playing for
his country.I think he has shown no loyalty to Saints,to go to a team that have done nothing for him and did not want him.
see you on the bench Rickie.
yours disgusted
local lad
I think RL has forgotten that we took him from oblivion Bristol Rovers,got him fit paid him £50 to £60.000 a week,and helped him achieve his dream of playing for his country.I think he has shown no loyalty to Saints,to go to a team that have done nothing for him and did not want him. see you on the bench Rickie. yours disgusted local lad SAINTS FRIEND
  • Score: 3

6:12pm Fri 30 May 14

Folkestone Saint says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
Cheer up everyone! It's May 31 tomorrow, which is the day that Juventus send Osvaldo back to you. Obviously Krueger is impressed by the fact that Osvaldo is the ONLY Saints player to win a league championship winners' medal - not just from your current squad, but EVER. It's Osvaldo who'll be leading your "offensive roster" next season.
Yea, they are all queueing up to sign a skate, have you seen it on Sky Sports news, the amount of poopey players being mentioned is amazing, YEP not one, fcuk all, zero, nada, thats what your squad is worth, like your savings, no interest.
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Cheer up everyone! It's May 31 tomorrow, which is the day that Juventus send Osvaldo back to you. Obviously Krueger is impressed by the fact that Osvaldo is the ONLY Saints player to win a league championship winners' medal - not just from your current squad, but EVER. It's Osvaldo who'll be leading your "offensive roster" next season.[/p][/quote]Yea, they are all queueing up to sign a skate, have you seen it on Sky Sports news, the amount of poopey players being mentioned is amazing, YEP not one, fcuk all, zero, nada, thats what your squad is worth, like your savings, no interest. Folkestone Saint
  • Score: 2

6:43pm Fri 30 May 14

upwherewebelong says...

Not sure i agree with the headline saying "reluctantly agreed" One one hand I think the board are revelling in dismantling this squad. It's sad and pathetic that the board are betraying the fans so much. On another hand I think the club feel they need to clear space. What is certain in my mind is they need to get a shift on and get a new manager. I recall rumours once that we had a shortlist of 5 new potential managers all the time if true lets use it
Not sure i agree with the headline saying "reluctantly agreed" One one hand I think the board are revelling in dismantling this squad. It's sad and pathetic that the board are betraying the fans so much. On another hand I think the club feel they need to clear space. What is certain in my mind is they need to get a shift on and get a new manager. I recall rumours once that we had a shortlist of 5 new potential managers all the time if true lets use it upwherewebelong
  • Score: 0

7:58pm Fri 30 May 14

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

A new Broom Sweeps Clean!
A new Broom Sweeps Clean! Fatty x Ford Worker
  • Score: 0

8:10pm Fri 30 May 14

yellowcard says...

BracknellSaint wrote:
OfficialSpudUk wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote: No, the board just don't have any wits, or indeed nuts, about them. Yet again, roll over, and get our belly tickled. Embarrassed....
Oh please, another hysterical football fan! £5m for a 32 year old striker's a dream move is good business for the player and the club. Board had their hands tied by Liverpool and Rickie's desire for a dream move to his boyhood club. Calm down...Saints fans need to stop freaking out at every piece of news
Oh, riiiight... So, losing the best manager in 30 years, then the legend who brought us up through the leagues for peanuts( By this I mean who will we be able to buy who can be the team's leader, score goals, never miss penalties, create hatfuls of chances for his team mates, and influence results as much as SRL, for 4-5 million? Seriously...) and if this 'free for all, stripping Saints of anything half decent' policy is carrying on,then Lallana( our heartbeat) as well as Lovren( real reason for our decent defence) and Shaw, Morgan, Jay, Victor etc. are all at risk of being flogged because the board (a) can't convince them of ambition, and (b) no balls to say no to an offer, then how do you suggest we stay happy , confident and excited? Club needs to sort this out, and offer the transparency they've promised-not that I will believe it straight off again, after having been mugged off by Reed and Krueger already in the last couple of weeks.
Hmm the best manager in 30 years Glenn hoddle and Paul sturock had a better win ratio than poch
the board are doing the right thing here rewarding a loyal servant with a chance to complete his dream
[quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OfficialSpudUk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: No, the board just don't have any wits, or indeed nuts, about them. Yet again, roll over, and get our belly tickled. Embarrassed....[/p][/quote]Oh please, another hysterical football fan! £5m for a 32 year old striker's a dream move is good business for the player and the club. Board had their hands tied by Liverpool and Rickie's desire for a dream move to his boyhood club. Calm down...Saints fans need to stop freaking out at every piece of news[/p][/quote]Oh, riiiight... So, losing the best manager in 30 years, then the legend who brought us up through the leagues for peanuts( By this I mean who will we be able to buy who can be the team's leader, score goals, never miss penalties, create hatfuls of chances for his team mates, and influence results as much as SRL, for 4-5 million? Seriously...) and if this 'free for all, stripping Saints of anything half decent' policy is carrying on,then Lallana( our heartbeat) as well as Lovren( real reason for our decent defence) and Shaw, Morgan, Jay, Victor etc. are all at risk of being flogged because the board (a) can't convince them of ambition, and (b) no balls to say no to an offer, then how do you suggest we stay happy , confident and excited? Club needs to sort this out, and offer the transparency they've promised-not that I will believe it straight off again, after having been mugged off by Reed and Krueger already in the last couple of weeks.[/p][/quote]Hmm the best manager in 30 years Glenn hoddle and Paul sturock had a better win ratio than poch the board are doing the right thing here rewarding a loyal servant with a chance to complete his dream yellowcard
  • Score: 3

9:09pm Fri 30 May 14

highanxiety says...

Good deal for Saints.. Lambert is past his prime and will enjoy life in Liverpool. Plus, If he doesn't impress at Liverpool, It's not to far to go to the beetroot factory.
Good deal for Saints.. Lambert is past his prime and will enjoy life in Liverpool. Plus, If he doesn't impress at Liverpool, It's not to far to go to the beetroot factory. highanxiety
  • Score: 0

9:13pm Fri 30 May 14

thesaint88 says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
markodarko29 wrote:
This is like going back to the days when Rupert was in charge,selling all the best players and lying to the fans .
Yes,the whole thing does seem to have a remarkably "Deja Lowe" feeling about it at the moment,doesn't it.
And don't forget woodwood!!!
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]markodarko29[/bold] wrote: This is like going back to the days when Rupert was in charge,selling all the best players and lying to the fans .[/p][/quote]Yes,the whole thing does seem to have a remarkably "Deja Lowe" feeling about it at the moment,doesn't it.[/p][/quote]And don't forget woodwood!!! thesaint88
  • Score: 0

9:17pm Fri 30 May 14

Optimist says...

I like looking at the votes
I like looking at the votes Optimist
  • Score: 0

10:39pm Fri 30 May 14

markodarko29 says...

End of the day thoe,the likes off Lambert , lallana, Shaw,lovren and the rest must want to play for the club,if not it is a waste of time trying to keep them ,as for Lambert let's hope sitting on the bench every week doesn't bring a dose of the farmer Giles on
End of the day thoe,the likes off Lambert , lallana, Shaw,lovren and the rest must want to play for the club,if not it is a waste of time trying to keep them ,as for Lambert let's hope sitting on the bench every week doesn't bring a dose of the farmer Giles on markodarko29
  • Score: 0

11:40pm Fri 30 May 14

poshdave says...

..................no
w I'm getting used to all the press.I think all of us are getting in a bit of a state as things move on.......please please remember going bust was the worst thing to have experienced as a Saints fan!............that
's not going to happen......we are owned by one of the most successful European corporation and they are used to being successful, , they are not going to burn money away like some money drenched Arab!!!!!!!!!!..,get use to it....... their right about Ricki,..do you really think he would be the same if we stood in his way on his boyhood dream?.....he deserves this move, he's earn't it!!!...wish him well.....one thing bout being a Saints fan is its a monster roller coaster.............
..hands in the air cause the ride ain't stopping yet!!!!!!!!
..................no w I'm getting used to all the press.I think all of us are getting in a bit of a state as things move on.......please please remember going bust was the worst thing to have experienced as a Saints fan!............that 's not going to happen......we are owned by one of the most successful European corporation and they are used to being successful, , they are not going to burn money away like some money drenched Arab!!!!!!!!!!..,get use to it....... their right about Ricki,..do you really think he would be the same if we stood in his way on his boyhood dream?.....he deserves this move, he's earn't it!!!...wish him well.....one thing bout being a Saints fan is its a monster roller coaster............. ..hands in the air cause the ride ain't stopping yet!!!!!!!! poshdave
  • Score: 3

11:40pm Fri 30 May 14

poshdave says...

..................no
w I'm getting used to all the press.I think all of us are getting in a bit of a state as things move on.......please please remember going bust was the worst thing to have experienced as a Saints fan!............that
's not going to happen......we are owned by one of the most successful European corporation and they are used to being successful, , they are not going to burn money away like some money drenched Arab!!!!!!!!!!..,get use to it....... their right about Ricki,..do you really think he would be the same if we stood in his way on his boyhood dream?.....he deserves this move, he's earn't it!!!...wish him well.....one thing bout being a Saints fan is its a monster roller coaster.............
..hands in the air cause the ride ain't stopping yet!!!!!!!!
..................no w I'm getting used to all the press.I think all of us are getting in a bit of a state as things move on.......please please remember going bust was the worst thing to have experienced as a Saints fan!............that 's not going to happen......we are owned by one of the most successful European corporation and they are used to being successful, , they are not going to burn money away like some money drenched Arab!!!!!!!!!!..,get use to it....... their right about Ricki,..do you really think he would be the same if we stood in his way on his boyhood dream?.....he deserves this move, he's earn't it!!!...wish him well.....one thing bout being a Saints fan is its a monster roller coaster............. ..hands in the air cause the ride ain't stopping yet!!!!!!!! poshdave
  • Score: 2

6:00am Sat 31 May 14

Mush On The Beach says...

If a week is a long time in politics then 24 hours in football seems longer to me. I’m struggling to get my head around the timing of the Rickie move given the current PR just laid out by Krueger.
The only logical reason I can see is if Rickie is off to replace Suarez who is off to replace Benzema who is off to replace Rickie at St Marys. Am I right Mr Krueger?
Good luck Sir Rickie, it’s been emotional.
If a week is a long time in politics then 24 hours in football seems longer to me. I’m struggling to get my head around the timing of the Rickie move given the current PR just laid out by Krueger. The only logical reason I can see is if Rickie is off to replace Suarez who is off to replace Benzema who is off to replace Rickie at St Marys. Am I right Mr Krueger? Good luck Sir Rickie, it’s been emotional. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 0

4:19pm Sat 31 May 14

St. Case says...

markodarko29 wrote:
This is like going back to the days when Rupert was in charge,selling all the best players and lying to the fans .
How is it lying to the fans? If Ricky wanted to go, how could the transfer have been stopped? Think a little...
[quote][p][bold]markodarko29[/bold] wrote: This is like going back to the days when Rupert was in charge,selling all the best players and lying to the fans .[/p][/quote]How is it lying to the fans? If Ricky wanted to go, how could the transfer have been stopped? Think a little... St. Case
  • Score: 0

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