Adam Lallana must stay at St Mary's, says Matt Le Tissier

MATT LE TISSIER

MATT LE TISSIER

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SAINTS legend Matt Le Tissier “desperately” wants Adam Lallana to remain a Saints player – but admits “every player has his price.”

Lallana, who turns 26 at the end of next week, four years left on his contract and is being heavily linked with Manchester United, Liverpool and Tottenham.

Le Tissier said: “I desperately want Adam to stay. It’s been a pleasure to watch him play over the last few years, he’s the one guy I come to watch to entertain me.

“Each to their own and I wouldn’t blame him if he wants to go to a club that gives him Champions League football. “But if I could say anything to try and keep him at Southampton, it would be to remind him that he is the first name on the team sheet.

“Champions League clubs have bigger, stronger squads so he might not play as much if he leaves.

“And he is at a club on the up.

“Southampton could reach the Champions League one day. It’s going to be extremely difficult but if he and Luke Shaw both stay and they add to the squad they will give themselves a chance.

“Even then it will still be incredibly difficult, the seven teams above them are far more established and aren’t going to stand still so it might take a little time and quite a bit of investment.

“And a lot will obviously depend on whether the manager stays and who the club takes on if he doesn’t.

“There’s a lot up in the air at the moment. I know Les Reed has said there have been no bids for players and players aren’t going to be sold but every player has his price. “Look at Cristiano Ronaldo – his price was £80m and off he went. You can never say a player will not be leaving.”

Lallana’s future may also be determined by how he performs at the World Cup.

“He’s nailed on for a place in the squad and I would be disappointed if he didn’t start the first game, certainly his form warrants that,” continued Le Tissier.

“We can play a multitude of formations with the likes of [Daniel] Sturridge, [Raheem] Sterling, maybe Jack Wilshere and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain. “But if Roy [Hodgson] plays with one up front Adam should be one of the three supporting players .

“He’s one of the best at that, he can play anywhere along that line - as the song goes, he can play on the left or the right!”

Matt Le Tissier was speaking at a Barclays Thank You Day event, where two amateur football teams were given the opportunity to play at Southampton's St Mary's Stadium by Barclays. This season Barclays is thanking fans, community heroes, players and managers for making the Barclays Premier League what it is. Join the conversation with #YouAreFootball.

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7:01am Wed 30 Apr 14

Rising_Son says...

In short, we don't know what will happen but Le Tiss thinks he'll definitely play for England and wants him to stay with Saints.
In short, we don't know what will happen but Le Tiss thinks he'll definitely play for England and wants him to stay with Saints. Rising_Son
  • Score: 9

7:42am Wed 30 Apr 14

Littleton-Saint says...

Deeds rather than vacuous words will need to emanate from our Board if we are to hold on to MoPo and our best players.

If the Board speculates to accumulate, then the wonderful positive journey could continue. In business, one has to take a few calculated risks now and again. CL football should be the vision and future for our club. We either move forward with that vision, or we'll slip backwards.

Part of the positive vision should include ground expansion and making it easier for people outside the city to park safely and get to games.
We need to think big : better players, bigger ground, better egress to the stadium, more fans, CL Football - an international brand where even children in Madrid wear our shirts!
Deeds rather than vacuous words will need to emanate from our Board if we are to hold on to MoPo and our best players. If the Board speculates to accumulate, then the wonderful positive journey could continue. In business, one has to take a few calculated risks now and again. CL football should be the vision and future for our club. We either move forward with that vision, or we'll slip backwards. Part of the positive vision should include ground expansion and making it easier for people outside the city to park safely and get to games. We need to think big : better players, bigger ground, better egress to the stadium, more fans, CL Football - an international brand where even children in Madrid wear our shirts! Littleton-Saint
  • Score: 27

8:02am Wed 30 Apr 14

Malcombe says...

True facts Matt you know what you are talking about you've been there and worn the T Shirt better than that worn the Saints Kit and played in the team and scored fantastic goals, you are the best example of Club loyalty of a Player that Southampton has ever had and I am sure me and all the Supporters are in your camp, what a wonderful Legend and he often eats in a Carvery in Bishopstoke another good choice
True facts Matt you know what you are talking about you've been there and worn the T Shirt better than that worn the Saints Kit and played in the team and scored fantastic goals, you are the best example of Club loyalty of a Player that Southampton has ever had and I am sure me and all the Supporters are in your camp, what a wonderful Legend and he often eats in a Carvery in Bishopstoke another good choice Malcombe
  • Score: 23

8:18am Wed 30 Apr 14

Buddy SFC says...

The Board, The players and MoPo are in a position where until the season ends nothing will happen, as today a sign of commitment to Saints reduces the opportunity to negotiate that improved contract, so we are all just speculating.

IF and its a big IF ! MoPo negotiates a new much improved contract then selling Dani and maybe even Gaston will allow the board to look at massively improved deals for a number of players including Adam and Luke. One thing is for sure though, for all of us to have a great Summer we will hope that the New board and Katharina are committed to the next step and the investment that will cost !

Honestly , I can see Luke going to allow the squad to stay together and further develop , I so don't want that to happen but I have loved the last few years and that needs to continue and maybe a few changes will allow the next step ...................
The Board, The players and MoPo are in a position where until the season ends nothing will happen, as today a sign of commitment to Saints reduces the opportunity to negotiate that improved contract, so we are all just speculating. IF and its a big IF ! MoPo negotiates a new much improved contract then selling Dani and maybe even Gaston will allow the board to look at massively improved deals for a number of players including Adam and Luke. One thing is for sure though, for all of us to have a great Summer we will hope that the New board and Katharina are committed to the next step and the investment that will cost ! Honestly , I can see Luke going to allow the squad to stay together and further develop , I so don't want that to happen but I have loved the last few years and that needs to continue and maybe a few changes will allow the next step ................... Buddy SFC
  • Score: 2

8:46am Wed 30 Apr 14

Mush On The Beach says...

Buddy SFC wrote:
The Board, The players and MoPo are in a position where until the season ends nothing will happen, as today a sign of commitment to Saints reduces the opportunity to negotiate that improved contract, so we are all just speculating.

IF and its a big IF ! MoPo negotiates a new much improved contract then selling Dani and maybe even Gaston will allow the board to look at massively improved deals for a number of players including Adam and Luke. One thing is for sure though, for all of us to have a great Summer we will hope that the New board and Katharina are committed to the next step and the investment that will cost !

Honestly , I can see Luke going to allow the squad to stay together and further develop , I so don't want that to happen but I have loved the last few years and that needs to continue and maybe a few changes will allow the next step ...................
Que Sera, Sera.
I think that everyone should just chill out and concentrate on the fun between now and the end of the season. I really want us to do to Manure what we did to Everton, we owe them that for an end of season nightmare 10 years ago.
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: The Board, The players and MoPo are in a position where until the season ends nothing will happen, as today a sign of commitment to Saints reduces the opportunity to negotiate that improved contract, so we are all just speculating. IF and its a big IF ! MoPo negotiates a new much improved contract then selling Dani and maybe even Gaston will allow the board to look at massively improved deals for a number of players including Adam and Luke. One thing is for sure though, for all of us to have a great Summer we will hope that the New board and Katharina are committed to the next step and the investment that will cost ! Honestly , I can see Luke going to allow the squad to stay together and further develop , I so don't want that to happen but I have loved the last few years and that needs to continue and maybe a few changes will allow the next step ...................[/p][/quote]Que Sera, Sera. I think that everyone should just chill out and concentrate on the fun between now and the end of the season. I really want us to do to Manure what we did to Everton, we owe them that for an end of season nightmare 10 years ago. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 29

8:48am Wed 30 Apr 14

Mush On The Beach says...

Malcombe wrote:
True facts Matt you know what you are talking about you've been there and worn the T Shirt better than that worn the Saints Kit and played in the team and scored fantastic goals, you are the best example of Club loyalty of a Player that Southampton has ever had and I am sure me and all the Supporters are in your camp, what a wonderful Legend and he often eats in a Carvery in Bishopstoke another good choice
Well said Malcombe, though I’m led to believe Matty frequents many different carveries.
[quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: True facts Matt you know what you are talking about you've been there and worn the T Shirt better than that worn the Saints Kit and played in the team and scored fantastic goals, you are the best example of Club loyalty of a Player that Southampton has ever had and I am sure me and all the Supporters are in your camp, what a wonderful Legend and he often eats in a Carvery in Bishopstoke another good choice[/p][/quote]Well said Malcombe, though I’m led to believe Matty frequents many different carveries. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 16

8:58am Wed 30 Apr 14

richard903 says...

I had a thought yesterday, not normal for me I know, but all this mischiff making in the press, could it be Nicola Cortasie up to no good. When he was kicked out, he released to the press that Katrina wanted to sell the club and players, we have since found out that was bulls**t . I didnt meet him, was he petty and vindictive? he did ban just about everyone including matt le tis and Francis benali, the daily echo, photographers. Hunt him down boys
I had a thought yesterday, not normal for me I know, but all this mischiff making in the press, could it be Nicola Cortasie up to no good. When he was kicked out, he released to the press that Katrina wanted to sell the club and players, we have since found out that was bulls**t . I didnt meet him, was he petty and vindictive? he did ban just about everyone including matt le tis and Francis benali, the daily echo, photographers. Hunt him down boys richard903
  • Score: -3

8:59am Wed 30 Apr 14

Alicesdad says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
Malcombe wrote:
True facts Matt you know what you are talking about you've been there and worn the T Shirt better than that worn the Saints Kit and played in the team and scored fantastic goals, you are the best example of Club loyalty of a Player that Southampton has ever had and I am sure me and all the Supporters are in your camp, what a wonderful Legend and he often eats in a Carvery in Bishopstoke another good choice
Well said Malcombe, though I’m led to believe Matty frequents many different carveries.
Sometimes on the same day ....
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: True facts Matt you know what you are talking about you've been there and worn the T Shirt better than that worn the Saints Kit and played in the team and scored fantastic goals, you are the best example of Club loyalty of a Player that Southampton has ever had and I am sure me and all the Supporters are in your camp, what a wonderful Legend and he often eats in a Carvery in Bishopstoke another good choice[/p][/quote]Well said Malcombe, though I’m led to believe Matty frequents many different carveries.[/p][/quote]Sometimes on the same day .... Alicesdad
  • Score: 7

9:15am Wed 30 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential.

And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.
Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential. And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 8

9:49am Wed 30 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential.

And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.
You, I can believe, others I am not so sure. It is going to be very difficult for Adam to decide what to do and only he can make that choice, whatever it is, he will get my support, I hope he stays, but as ever, one Player does not make a Team, if he goes we simply seek a suitable replacement and adjust the side accordingly. We have all mulled over the Pros and Cons, and I am none the wiser about what would be the best path to chose. A similar conundrum must be going through Lukes, and MP's minds, should I stay or should I go, sorry people I just don't know.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential. And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.[/p][/quote]You, I can believe, others I am not so sure. It is going to be very difficult for Adam to decide what to do and only he can make that choice, whatever it is, he will get my support, I hope he stays, but as ever, one Player does not make a Team, if he goes we simply seek a suitable replacement and adjust the side accordingly. We have all mulled over the Pros and Cons, and I am none the wiser about what would be the best path to chose. A similar conundrum must be going through Lukes, and MP's minds, should I stay or should I go, sorry people I just don't know. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

10:23am Wed 30 Apr 14

SiamSaint says...

Littleton-Saint wrote:
Deeds rather than vacuous words will need to emanate from our Board if we are to hold on to MoPo and our best players.

If the Board speculates to accumulate, then the wonderful positive journey could continue. In business, one has to take a few calculated risks now and again. CL football should be the vision and future for our club. We either move forward with that vision, or we'll slip backwards.

Part of the positive vision should include ground expansion and making it easier for people outside the city to park safely and get to games.
We need to think big : better players, bigger ground, better egress to the stadium, more fans, CL Football - an international brand where even children in Madrid wear our shirts!
But but but... soddit.... does that mean we have to boo him when he comes to St Mary's if this goes ahead? Nevvvvverrrr!
[quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: Deeds rather than vacuous words will need to emanate from our Board if we are to hold on to MoPo and our best players. If the Board speculates to accumulate, then the wonderful positive journey could continue. In business, one has to take a few calculated risks now and again. CL football should be the vision and future for our club. We either move forward with that vision, or we'll slip backwards. Part of the positive vision should include ground expansion and making it easier for people outside the city to park safely and get to games. We need to think big : better players, bigger ground, better egress to the stadium, more fans, CL Football - an international brand where even children in Madrid wear our shirts![/p][/quote]But but but... soddit.... does that mean we have to boo him when he comes to St Mary's if this goes ahead? Nevvvvverrrr! SiamSaint
  • Score: -1

10:45am Wed 30 Apr 14

Confucious says...

Les Reed obviously made his surprise statement last week in an exasperated attempt to dampen these swirling rumours. He must be even more exasperated now as he was not only ignored by the media, but the rumour mill has just switched up a gear.

He may have to appear again methinks in order to deny the strong rumour that he is going to appear again.
Les Reed obviously made his surprise statement last week in an exasperated attempt to dampen these swirling rumours. He must be even more exasperated now as he was not only ignored by the media, but the rumour mill has just switched up a gear. He may have to appear again methinks in order to deny the strong rumour that he is going to appear again. Confucious
  • Score: 13

10:50am Wed 30 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Whatever happens there will be different views expressed on here for sure, there will be those exuding hate and vitriol, calling defectors traitors etc. and the others who will be saying thanks for what you have done good luck to you in the future, what will you be? I remember many moons ago when a player was being rumoured to leave to go to Spurs, I said it wouldn't happen and I was wrong, the lad took a long time to win hearts and minds at Tottenham, was a victim of a hate campaign, but won through, eventually he went on to Real better things and has nearly reached the top of the tree, so there is a precedent to follow. Then again he was a bit good wasn't he?
Whatever happens there will be different views expressed on here for sure, there will be those exuding hate and vitriol, calling defectors traitors etc. and the others who will be saying thanks for what you have done good luck to you in the future, what will you be? I remember many moons ago when a player was being rumoured to leave to go to Spurs, I said it wouldn't happen and I was wrong, the lad took a long time to win hearts and minds at Tottenham, was a victim of a hate campaign, but won through, eventually he went on to Real better things and has nearly reached the top of the tree, so there is a precedent to follow. Then again he was a bit good wasn't he? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

11:10am Wed 30 Apr 14

BracknellSaint says...

I really REALLY hope that we can keep all of them, flog Dani and maybe 4-5 players more off the books who will never get near the first team, then add 2-3 new players...
However, even though the Daily Mail led campaign to destabilize the club, clearly being prompted by someone with an agenda(NC??) is hot air, I do wonder if at least one will ask to go or we get an offer too good to turn down...
IF, and it's a big if for me, we DO decide to sell someone, then as much as I love him, it would surely have to be Luke over Adam?
By selling an amazing talent, I'd be gutted, but I'd rather lose a left back if it was for 25 Million or whatever, than lose Adam who's the heartbeat of this team ( along with SRL).
As I say, I don't want to lose anyone, but if Luke went for that money, perhaps it would allow us to get a striker and CB of true quality to make the TEAM stronger. Young Targett could come through next year as Luke did, and with Chambers and Clyne available, Clyne could cover at LB if needed.
Ideally though, Luke and Adam will realize they're already in the England team while at SMS, so LeTiss is completely correct that you don't need to be at a top4 club( and probably spending alot of time on the bench?) to get picked now. OK, so we can't offer CL footy,but why can't we build/ aspire to that with this group one day? And wages? I'd offer Adam and Luke a rise, and that might keep them happy?
I really REALLY hope that we can keep all of them, flog Dani and maybe 4-5 players more off the books who will never get near the first team, then add 2-3 new players... However, even though the Daily Mail led campaign to destabilize the club, clearly being prompted by someone with an agenda(NC??) is hot air, I do wonder if at least one will ask to go or we get an offer too good to turn down... IF, and it's a big if for me, we DO decide to sell someone, then as much as I love him, it would surely have to be Luke over Adam? By selling an amazing talent, I'd be gutted, but I'd rather lose a left back if it was for 25 Million or whatever, than lose Adam who's the heartbeat of this team ( along with SRL). As I say, I don't want to lose anyone, but if Luke went for that money, perhaps it would allow us to get a striker and CB of true quality to make the TEAM stronger. Young Targett could come through next year as Luke did, and with Chambers and Clyne available, Clyne could cover at LB if needed. Ideally though, Luke and Adam will realize they're already in the England team while at SMS, so LeTiss is completely correct that you don't need to be at a top4 club( and probably spending alot of time on the bench?) to get picked now. OK, so we can't offer CL footy,but why can't we build/ aspire to that with this group one day? And wages? I'd offer Adam and Luke a rise, and that might keep them happy? BracknellSaint
  • Score: 6

11:15am Wed 30 Apr 14

Poole Tom says...

I don`t think anyone on here would disagree that we need to keep Lallana and if possible all our other up and coming stars as well. However even if they all stay which realistically is unlikely, we will still need to improve the team in order to try and progress.
We all seem pretty much agreed that we need another goalkeeper to challenge Boruc a new centre back to play alongside Lovren and another striker because Lambert is`nt getting any younger and J Rod will not be fit until October at the earliest. However I also think we need a goal scoring midfield player because Wanyama, Cork, Spider, Davis and JWP have, off the top of my head scored less than five between them all season, which frankly is not good enough if we want to be challenging for Europe. The question then is who would fit the bill that we could afford? Any ideas anyone?
I don`t think anyone on here would disagree that we need to keep Lallana and if possible all our other up and coming stars as well. However even if they all stay which realistically is unlikely, we will still need to improve the team in order to try and progress. We all seem pretty much agreed that we need another goalkeeper to challenge Boruc a new centre back to play alongside Lovren and another striker because Lambert is`nt getting any younger and J Rod will not be fit until October at the earliest. However I also think we need a goal scoring midfield player because Wanyama, Cork, Spider, Davis and JWP have, off the top of my head scored less than five between them all season, which frankly is not good enough if we want to be challenging for Europe. The question then is who would fit the bill that we could afford? Any ideas anyone? Poole Tom
  • Score: 5

11:17am Wed 30 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Confucious wrote:
Les Reed obviously made his surprise statement last week in an exasperated attempt to dampen these swirling rumours. He must be even more exasperated now as he was not only ignored by the media, but the rumour mill has just switched up a gear.

He may have to appear again methinks in order to deny the strong rumour that he is going to appear again.
Les reed had a full head of hair before these rumours started. ;0)
don't worry though the transfer window closes in around 4 months so these rumours will stop then, well until November when they will start up all over again.

confucious could you use your contact at the club to ensure that they use some petty cash to purchase a stress relief toy for Les, I genuinely fear for the rest of his hair or that he may go on a media murder spree!
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Les Reed obviously made his surprise statement last week in an exasperated attempt to dampen these swirling rumours. He must be even more exasperated now as he was not only ignored by the media, but the rumour mill has just switched up a gear. He may have to appear again methinks in order to deny the strong rumour that he is going to appear again.[/p][/quote]Les reed had a full head of hair before these rumours started. ;0) don't worry though the transfer window closes in around 4 months so these rumours will stop then, well until November when they will start up all over again. confucious could you use your contact at the club to ensure that they use some petty cash to purchase a stress relief toy for Les, I genuinely fear for the rest of his hair or that he may go on a media murder spree! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 4

11:20am Wed 30 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

BracknellSaint wrote:
I really REALLY hope that we can keep all of them, flog Dani and maybe 4-5 players more off the books who will never get near the first team, then add 2-3 new players...
However, even though the Daily Mail led campaign to destabilize the club, clearly being prompted by someone with an agenda(NC??) is hot air, I do wonder if at least one will ask to go or we get an offer too good to turn down...
IF, and it's a big if for me, we DO decide to sell someone, then as much as I love him, it would surely have to be Luke over Adam?
By selling an amazing talent, I'd be gutted, but I'd rather lose a left back if it was for 25 Million or whatever, than lose Adam who's the heartbeat of this team ( along with SRL).
As I say, I don't want to lose anyone, but if Luke went for that money, perhaps it would allow us to get a striker and CB of true quality to make the TEAM stronger. Young Targett could come through next year as Luke did, and with Chambers and Clyne available, Clyne could cover at LB if needed.
Ideally though, Luke and Adam will realize they're already in the England team while at SMS, so LeTiss is completely correct that you don't need to be at a top4 club( and probably spending alot of time on the bench?) to get picked now. OK, so we can't offer CL footy,but why can't we build/ aspire to that with this group one day? And wages? I'd offer Adam and Luke a rise, and that might keep them happy?
Your last point is the critical one, if the Club is looking to progress they have to make those key players an offer they cannot refuse and support them with some astute signings, whether that will happen, we will have to wait and see. I am not sure how long I can hold my breath though!
[quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: I really REALLY hope that we can keep all of them, flog Dani and maybe 4-5 players more off the books who will never get near the first team, then add 2-3 new players... However, even though the Daily Mail led campaign to destabilize the club, clearly being prompted by someone with an agenda(NC??) is hot air, I do wonder if at least one will ask to go or we get an offer too good to turn down... IF, and it's a big if for me, we DO decide to sell someone, then as much as I love him, it would surely have to be Luke over Adam? By selling an amazing talent, I'd be gutted, but I'd rather lose a left back if it was for 25 Million or whatever, than lose Adam who's the heartbeat of this team ( along with SRL). As I say, I don't want to lose anyone, but if Luke went for that money, perhaps it would allow us to get a striker and CB of true quality to make the TEAM stronger. Young Targett could come through next year as Luke did, and with Chambers and Clyne available, Clyne could cover at LB if needed. Ideally though, Luke and Adam will realize they're already in the England team while at SMS, so LeTiss is completely correct that you don't need to be at a top4 club( and probably spending alot of time on the bench?) to get picked now. OK, so we can't offer CL footy,but why can't we build/ aspire to that with this group one day? And wages? I'd offer Adam and Luke a rise, and that might keep them happy?[/p][/quote]Your last point is the critical one, if the Club is looking to progress they have to make those key players an offer they cannot refuse and support them with some astute signings, whether that will happen, we will have to wait and see. I am not sure how long I can hold my breath though! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

11:23am Wed 30 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

amidst all the rumours of players leaving I found this little gem of a possible target.

According to Danish newspaper BT, Southampton are one of several clubs to have made an offer for Leicester City goalkeeper Kasper Schmeichel.

he is out of contract at the end of the season so would be a free transfer and has been free to talk to clubs since jan.

don know if theres much in it but it would be an interesting development if true.
amidst all the rumours of players leaving I found this little gem of a possible target. According to Danish newspaper BT, Southampton are one of several clubs to have made an offer for Leicester City goalkeeper Kasper Schmeichel. he is out of contract at the end of the season so would be a free transfer and has been free to talk to clubs since jan. don know if theres much in it but it would be an interesting development if true. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 7

11:28am Wed 30 Apr 14

IOAD says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
Malcombe wrote:
True facts Matt you know what you are talking about you've been there and worn the T Shirt better than that worn the Saints Kit and played in the team and scored fantastic goals, you are the best example of Club loyalty of a Player that Southampton has ever had and I am sure me and all the Supporters are in your camp, what a wonderful Legend and he often eats in a Carvery in Bishopstoke another good choice
Well said Malcombe, though I’m led to believe Matty frequents many different carveries.
When I was a kid I used to work in Burger King in Above Bar. He used to come in quite regularly (although not as often as John Burridge). It's good to see that Matty's developed a more sophisticated palate in the intervening decades. That's the high life for you!
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: True facts Matt you know what you are talking about you've been there and worn the T Shirt better than that worn the Saints Kit and played in the team and scored fantastic goals, you are the best example of Club loyalty of a Player that Southampton has ever had and I am sure me and all the Supporters are in your camp, what a wonderful Legend and he often eats in a Carvery in Bishopstoke another good choice[/p][/quote]Well said Malcombe, though I’m led to believe Matty frequents many different carveries.[/p][/quote]When I was a kid I used to work in Burger King in Above Bar. He used to come in quite regularly (although not as often as John Burridge). It's good to see that Matty's developed a more sophisticated palate in the intervening decades. That's the high life for you! IOAD
  • Score: 5

11:29am Wed 30 Apr 14

BracknellSaint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
I really REALLY hope that we can keep all of them, flog Dani and maybe 4-5 players more off the books who will never get near the first team, then add 2-3 new players...
However, even though the Daily Mail led campaign to destabilize the club, clearly being prompted by someone with an agenda(NC??) is hot air, I do wonder if at least one will ask to go or we get an offer too good to turn down...
IF, and it's a big if for me, we DO decide to sell someone, then as much as I love him, it would surely have to be Luke over Adam?
By selling an amazing talent, I'd be gutted, but I'd rather lose a left back if it was for 25 Million or whatever, than lose Adam who's the heartbeat of this team ( along with SRL).
As I say, I don't want to lose anyone, but if Luke went for that money, perhaps it would allow us to get a striker and CB of true quality to make the TEAM stronger. Young Targett could come through next year as Luke did, and with Chambers and Clyne available, Clyne could cover at LB if needed.
Ideally though, Luke and Adam will realize they're already in the England team while at SMS, so LeTiss is completely correct that you don't need to be at a top4 club( and probably spending alot of time on the bench?) to get picked now. OK, so we can't offer CL footy,but why can't we build/ aspire to that with this group one day? And wages? I'd offer Adam and Luke a rise, and that might keep them happy?
Your last point is the critical one, if the Club is looking to progress they have to make those key players an offer they cannot refuse and support them with some astute signings, whether that will happen, we will have to wait and see. I am not sure how long I can hold my breath though!
Totally agree. I think on the footballing front, Adam seems happy and Luke is so young that if he wants to play CL, his chance will come in a couple of years , while he can stay and develop more in a good environment for now(let's be honest, his crossing/shooting needs work, and he's still got room to improve defensively) .
However, if Adam really was offered 70k a week ( not that I believe Neil Ashton or the DM, as they're definitely up to something odd...) then he would have to be tempted-human nature.
However, give him say 50k at SMS, and chance to lead/ create a legendary Saints team? Sounds good too...
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: I really REALLY hope that we can keep all of them, flog Dani and maybe 4-5 players more off the books who will never get near the first team, then add 2-3 new players... However, even though the Daily Mail led campaign to destabilize the club, clearly being prompted by someone with an agenda(NC??) is hot air, I do wonder if at least one will ask to go or we get an offer too good to turn down... IF, and it's a big if for me, we DO decide to sell someone, then as much as I love him, it would surely have to be Luke over Adam? By selling an amazing talent, I'd be gutted, but I'd rather lose a left back if it was for 25 Million or whatever, than lose Adam who's the heartbeat of this team ( along with SRL). As I say, I don't want to lose anyone, but if Luke went for that money, perhaps it would allow us to get a striker and CB of true quality to make the TEAM stronger. Young Targett could come through next year as Luke did, and with Chambers and Clyne available, Clyne could cover at LB if needed. Ideally though, Luke and Adam will realize they're already in the England team while at SMS, so LeTiss is completely correct that you don't need to be at a top4 club( and probably spending alot of time on the bench?) to get picked now. OK, so we can't offer CL footy,but why can't we build/ aspire to that with this group one day? And wages? I'd offer Adam and Luke a rise, and that might keep them happy?[/p][/quote]Your last point is the critical one, if the Club is looking to progress they have to make those key players an offer they cannot refuse and support them with some astute signings, whether that will happen, we will have to wait and see. I am not sure how long I can hold my breath though![/p][/quote]Totally agree. I think on the footballing front, Adam seems happy and Luke is so young that if he wants to play CL, his chance will come in a couple of years , while he can stay and develop more in a good environment for now(let's be honest, his crossing/shooting needs work, and he's still got room to improve defensively) . However, if Adam really was offered 70k a week ( not that I believe Neil Ashton or the DM, as they're definitely up to something odd...) then he would have to be tempted-human nature. However, give him say 50k at SMS, and chance to lead/ create a legendary Saints team? Sounds good too... BracknellSaint
  • Score: 3

11:34am Wed 30 Apr 14

george chivers says...

Confucious wrote:
Les Reed obviously made his surprise statement last week in an exasperated attempt to dampen these swirling rumours. He must be even more exasperated now as he was not only ignored by the media, but the rumour mill has just switched up a gear.

He may have to appear again methinks in order to deny the strong rumour that he is going to appear again.
The trouble is Les Reed is not the man the media want to quote. All the quotes in the world from Les Reed don't carry any weight.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Les Reed obviously made his surprise statement last week in an exasperated attempt to dampen these swirling rumours. He must be even more exasperated now as he was not only ignored by the media, but the rumour mill has just switched up a gear. He may have to appear again methinks in order to deny the strong rumour that he is going to appear again.[/p][/quote]The trouble is Les Reed is not the man the media want to quote. All the quotes in the world from Les Reed don't carry any weight. george chivers
  • Score: -4

11:34am Wed 30 Apr 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

Our board need to give Lallana and Poch massive new contracts and their word that they will invest in 1st class players in the summer to push on. Shaw will stay, Morgan, Chambers, Jay Rod, Gaston, Lovren - all of them will want to stay if the main two (Captain and Manager) stay!

Come on Katharina, get your money out!! :D
Our board need to give Lallana and Poch massive new contracts and their word that they will invest in 1st class players in the summer to push on. Shaw will stay, Morgan, Chambers, Jay Rod, Gaston, Lovren - all of them will want to stay if the main two (Captain and Manager) stay! Come on Katharina, get your money out!! :D SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: 7

11:37am Wed 30 Apr 14

Confucious says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Les Reed obviously made his surprise statement last week in an exasperated attempt to dampen these swirling rumours. He must be even more exasperated now as he was not only ignored by the media, but the rumour mill has just switched up a gear.

He may have to appear again methinks in order to deny the strong rumour that he is going to appear again.
Les reed had a full head of hair before these rumours started. ;0)
don't worry though the transfer window closes in around 4 months so these rumours will stop then, well until November when they will start up all over again.

confucious could you use your contact at the club to ensure that they use some petty cash to purchase a stress relief toy for Les, I genuinely fear for the rest of his hair or that he may go on a media murder spree!
Mrs Wilson says no-one mentions his hair because he lost his hair primarily through worrying about his hair. She's sympathetic and tells him that he's just got an unusually wide parting - but others at the club just take the p!ss.

Katherina told him it was ridiculous to worry about his hair because he hasn't got any - and when he asked MoPo if he could suggest anything to help keep his hair in MoPo recommended a shoebox.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Les Reed obviously made his surprise statement last week in an exasperated attempt to dampen these swirling rumours. He must be even more exasperated now as he was not only ignored by the media, but the rumour mill has just switched up a gear. He may have to appear again methinks in order to deny the strong rumour that he is going to appear again.[/p][/quote]Les reed had a full head of hair before these rumours started. ;0) don't worry though the transfer window closes in around 4 months so these rumours will stop then, well until November when they will start up all over again. confucious could you use your contact at the club to ensure that they use some petty cash to purchase a stress relief toy for Les, I genuinely fear for the rest of his hair or that he may go on a media murder spree![/p][/quote]Mrs Wilson says no-one mentions his hair because he lost his hair primarily through worrying about his hair. She's sympathetic and tells him that he's just got an unusually wide parting - but others at the club just take the p!ss. Katherina told him it was ridiculous to worry about his hair because he hasn't got any - and when he asked MoPo if he could suggest anything to help keep his hair in MoPo recommended a shoebox. Confucious
  • Score: 8

11:38am Wed 30 Apr 14

Buddy SFC says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
The Board, The players and MoPo are in a position where until the season ends nothing will happen, as today a sign of commitment to Saints reduces the opportunity to negotiate that improved contract, so we are all just speculating.

IF and its a big IF ! MoPo negotiates a new much improved contract then selling Dani and maybe even Gaston will allow the board to look at massively improved deals for a number of players including Adam and Luke. One thing is for sure though, for all of us to have a great Summer we will hope that the New board and Katharina are committed to the next step and the investment that will cost !

Honestly , I can see Luke going to allow the squad to stay together and further develop , I so don't want that to happen but I have loved the last few years and that needs to continue and maybe a few changes will allow the next step ...................
Que Sera, Sera.
I think that everyone should just chill out and concentrate on the fun between now and the end of the season. I really want us to do to Manure what we did to Everton, we owe them that for an end of season nightmare 10 years ago.
Can we all count down to them being out of Europe for the first time in 20 years !!

Like they counted down to Saints being relegated from the EPL..........
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: The Board, The players and MoPo are in a position where until the season ends nothing will happen, as today a sign of commitment to Saints reduces the opportunity to negotiate that improved contract, so we are all just speculating. IF and its a big IF ! MoPo negotiates a new much improved contract then selling Dani and maybe even Gaston will allow the board to look at massively improved deals for a number of players including Adam and Luke. One thing is for sure though, for all of us to have a great Summer we will hope that the New board and Katharina are committed to the next step and the investment that will cost ! Honestly , I can see Luke going to allow the squad to stay together and further develop , I so don't want that to happen but I have loved the last few years and that needs to continue and maybe a few changes will allow the next step ...................[/p][/quote]Que Sera, Sera. I think that everyone should just chill out and concentrate on the fun between now and the end of the season. I really want us to do to Manure what we did to Everton, we owe them that for an end of season nightmare 10 years ago.[/p][/quote]Can we all count down to them being out of Europe for the first time in 20 years !! Like they counted down to Saints being relegated from the EPL.......... Buddy SFC
  • Score: 6

11:49am Wed 30 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Confucious wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Les Reed obviously made his surprise statement last week in an exasperated attempt to dampen these swirling rumours. He must be even more exasperated now as he was not only ignored by the media, but the rumour mill has just switched up a gear.

He may have to appear again methinks in order to deny the strong rumour that he is going to appear again.
Les reed had a full head of hair before these rumours started. ;0)
don't worry though the transfer window closes in around 4 months so these rumours will stop then, well until November when they will start up all over again.

confucious could you use your contact at the club to ensure that they use some petty cash to purchase a stress relief toy for Les, I genuinely fear for the rest of his hair or that he may go on a media murder spree!
Mrs Wilson says no-one mentions his hair because he lost his hair primarily through worrying about his hair. She's sympathetic and tells him that he's just got an unusually wide parting - but others at the club just take the p!ss.

Katherina told him it was ridiculous to worry about his hair because he hasn't got any - and when he asked MoPo if he could suggest anything to help keep his hair in MoPo recommended a shoebox.
Is it a case of short back and polish or just an expensive search fee involved?
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Les Reed obviously made his surprise statement last week in an exasperated attempt to dampen these swirling rumours. He must be even more exasperated now as he was not only ignored by the media, but the rumour mill has just switched up a gear. He may have to appear again methinks in order to deny the strong rumour that he is going to appear again.[/p][/quote]Les reed had a full head of hair before these rumours started. ;0) don't worry though the transfer window closes in around 4 months so these rumours will stop then, well until November when they will start up all over again. confucious could you use your contact at the club to ensure that they use some petty cash to purchase a stress relief toy for Les, I genuinely fear for the rest of his hair or that he may go on a media murder spree![/p][/quote]Mrs Wilson says no-one mentions his hair because he lost his hair primarily through worrying about his hair. She's sympathetic and tells him that he's just got an unusually wide parting - but others at the club just take the p!ss. Katherina told him it was ridiculous to worry about his hair because he hasn't got any - and when he asked MoPo if he could suggest anything to help keep his hair in MoPo recommended a shoebox.[/p][/quote]Is it a case of short back and polish or just an expensive search fee involved? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

11:52am Wed 30 Apr 14

BracknellSaint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential.

And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.
So, you mean if we turn down all offers, then MoPo will extend?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential. And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.[/p][/quote]So, you mean if we turn down all offers, then MoPo will extend? BracknellSaint
  • Score: 0

12:21pm Wed 30 Apr 14

angus mc coatup says...

Spurs official website have put out a statement denying any approaches to any other club regarding managers. One in the eye for the make it up as you go along journalist,with some sort of agenda regarding all things Saints.
Spurs official website have put out a statement denying any approaches to any other club regarding managers. One in the eye for the make it up as you go along journalist,with some sort of agenda regarding all things Saints. angus mc coatup
  • Score: 6

12:26pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Dave Juson says...

It's all down to the Fates.
It is about time we knew what they had in store for us.
What is the point of all the stupid questions and baseless speculation? Surely, it is about time somebody at Newspaper House got down on their kneess and, very politely, demanded some answers about Saints' future.
It's all down to the Fates. It is about time we knew what they had in store for us. What is the point of all the stupid questions and baseless speculation? Surely, it is about time somebody at Newspaper House got down on their kneess and, very politely, demanded some answers about Saints' future. Dave Juson
  • Score: 0

12:39pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential.

And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.
You, I can believe, others I am not so sure. It is going to be very difficult for Adam to decide what to do and only he can make that choice, whatever it is, he will get my support, I hope he stays, but as ever, one Player does not make a Team, if he goes we simply seek a suitable replacement and adjust the side accordingly. We have all mulled over the Pros and Cons, and I am none the wiser about what would be the best path to chose. A similar conundrum must be going through Lukes, and MP's minds, should I stay or should I go, sorry people I just don't know.
My understanding was that everyone is keen to stay but it is in the boards hands. I presume that means the board will need to offer Adam (and maybe others) a new deal that he is happy with and keeps him here, which I guess has to be close to what he may be offered by other clubs. If we were to sell him 25% goes to the club named after a small fruit so that's a big chunk.

I don't know what the players are on but if Adam is on about £35k and Dani and Gaston £75k I'd be a bit miffed if I was Adam.

The board need to offer the players the type of wages others are offering them and they will stay. I suppose our academy can save us the transfer fees but not the wages, but how many other clubs have developed a couple of hundred million pounds worth of talent in one go? More if you count Oxo, Walcott and Bale.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential. And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.[/p][/quote]You, I can believe, others I am not so sure. It is going to be very difficult for Adam to decide what to do and only he can make that choice, whatever it is, he will get my support, I hope he stays, but as ever, one Player does not make a Team, if he goes we simply seek a suitable replacement and adjust the side accordingly. We have all mulled over the Pros and Cons, and I am none the wiser about what would be the best path to chose. A similar conundrum must be going through Lukes, and MP's minds, should I stay or should I go, sorry people I just don't know.[/p][/quote]My understanding was that everyone is keen to stay but it is in the boards hands. I presume that means the board will need to offer Adam (and maybe others) a new deal that he is happy with and keeps him here, which I guess has to be close to what he may be offered by other clubs. If we were to sell him 25% goes to the club named after a small fruit so that's a big chunk. I don't know what the players are on but if Adam is on about £35k and Dani and Gaston £75k I'd be a bit miffed if I was Adam. The board need to offer the players the type of wages others are offering them and they will stay. I suppose our academy can save us the transfer fees but not the wages, but how many other clubs have developed a couple of hundred million pounds worth of talent in one go? More if you count Oxo, Walcott and Bale. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 8

12:43pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

BracknellSaint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential.

And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.
So, you mean if we turn down all offers, then MoPo will extend?
Not quite. Yes, if the players stay so does the management team. But I think what was being said was we will need to pay them the going rate and they will stay. 'The board is being pushed.'
[quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential. And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.[/p][/quote]So, you mean if we turn down all offers, then MoPo will extend?[/p][/quote]Not quite. Yes, if the players stay so does the management team. But I think what was being said was we will need to pay them the going rate and they will stay. 'The board is being pushed.' Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 3

12:45pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Mush On The Beach says...

BracknellSaint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential.

And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.
So, you mean if we turn down all offers, then MoPo will extend?
That’s exactly what Seed means, I can also reveal his source ..... It’s his neighbour Dirty Gerty at number thirty with her weekly tea leaf reading.
[quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential. And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.[/p][/quote]So, you mean if we turn down all offers, then MoPo will extend?[/p][/quote]That’s exactly what Seed means, I can also reveal his source ..... It’s his neighbour Dirty Gerty at number thirty with her weekly tea leaf reading. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 5

12:56pm Wed 30 Apr 14

BracknellSaint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential.

And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.
So, you mean if we turn down all offers, then MoPo will extend?
Not quite. Yes, if the players stay so does the management team. But I think what was being said was we will need to pay them the going rate and they will stay. 'The board is being pushed.'
Fair enough. I had a fear that the players would only stay if MoPo does, but it seems it's the other way around?
I think that surely Adam needs to get paid what Dani/Ramirez are on, and Luke should get a boost, as should Jay , Morgan, Cork.
Getting Dani off the payroll, even if it means losing loads on the transfer, wouls surely cover these rises?
And there must still be a number of players on the books getting paid that will never play for us again, so get them out.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential. And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.[/p][/quote]So, you mean if we turn down all offers, then MoPo will extend?[/p][/quote]Not quite. Yes, if the players stay so does the management team. But I think what was being said was we will need to pay them the going rate and they will stay. 'The board is being pushed.'[/p][/quote]Fair enough. I had a fear that the players would only stay if MoPo does, but it seems it's the other way around? I think that surely Adam needs to get paid what Dani/Ramirez are on, and Luke should get a boost, as should Jay , Morgan, Cork. Getting Dani off the payroll, even if it means losing loads on the transfer, wouls surely cover these rises? And there must still be a number of players on the books getting paid that will never play for us again, so get them out. BracknellSaint
  • Score: 2

1:02pm Wed 30 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Anticipation = “Oh the places you'll go! There is fun to be done! There are points to be scored. There are games to be won. And the magical things you can do with that ball will make you the winning-est winner of all.”
― Dr. Seuss, Oh, The Places You’ll Go!
Anticipation = “Oh the places you'll go! There is fun to be done! There are points to be scored. There are games to be won. And the magical things you can do with that ball will make you the winning-est winner of all.” ― Dr. Seuss, Oh, The Places You’ll Go! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

1:09pm Wed 30 Apr 14

StElsass says...

I see this has now become a create your own rumour page. This is getting fun! One i particularly liked this morning on another website is telling us that we have invited offers for all our star players as we need to balance our books.
But the top one has to be this site called something like THFC denying that spurs have approached any managers! Where do they get these from, you wonder!
I see this has now become a create your own rumour page. This is getting fun! One i particularly liked this morning on another website is telling us that we have invited offers for all our star players as we need to balance our books. But the top one has to be this site called something like THFC denying that spurs have approached any managers! Where do they get these from, you wonder! StElsass
  • Score: -1

1:11pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential.

And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.
So, you mean if we turn down all offers, then MoPo will extend?
That’s exactly what Seed means, I can also reveal his source ..... It’s his neighbour Dirty Gerty at number thirty with her weekly tea leaf reading.
How did you know!?!
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential. And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.[/p][/quote]So, you mean if we turn down all offers, then MoPo will extend?[/p][/quote]That’s exactly what Seed means, I can also reveal his source ..... It’s his neighbour Dirty Gerty at number thirty with her weekly tea leaf reading.[/p][/quote]How did you know!?! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 4

1:16pm Wed 30 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential.

And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.
So, you mean if we turn down all offers, then MoPo will extend?
Not quite. Yes, if the players stay so does the management team. But I think what was being said was we will need to pay them the going rate and they will stay. 'The board is being pushed.'
£75k a year is £3.9mill, however players expect to get the entire salary and want the club to pay the taxes on their wages (something poopey weren't doing), so £75k a week could end up at around £6mill a year, I am no expert on the higher rate of tax though (you must be seed!).
to have 4-5 players on that wage is a hell of a lot of money and that's why RK is set on increasing the revenues from shirt deals etc. we have an increase in prem league prize money from last season and tv income has gone up. selling Osvaldo for around £10mill would not only clear his wages but also give the club more money for wages or signings.
I`m not sure lalla will be offered £75k here though but anything around £60k should be enough for him surely.
I think your right though, the players and MP are pushing the board for answers, they want to stay and to progress as a unit but if the board aren't prepared to fund the progression (the Southampton way) then they will consider their futures.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential. And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.[/p][/quote]So, you mean if we turn down all offers, then MoPo will extend?[/p][/quote]Not quite. Yes, if the players stay so does the management team. But I think what was being said was we will need to pay them the going rate and they will stay. 'The board is being pushed.'[/p][/quote]£75k a year is £3.9mill, however players expect to get the entire salary and want the club to pay the taxes on their wages (something poopey weren't doing), so £75k a week could end up at around £6mill a year, I am no expert on the higher rate of tax though (you must be seed!). to have 4-5 players on that wage is a hell of a lot of money and that's why RK is set on increasing the revenues from shirt deals etc. we have an increase in prem league prize money from last season and tv income has gone up. selling Osvaldo for around £10mill would not only clear his wages but also give the club more money for wages or signings. I`m not sure lalla will be offered £75k here though but anything around £60k should be enough for him surely. I think your right though, the players and MP are pushing the board for answers, they want to stay and to progress as a unit but if the board aren't prepared to fund the progression (the Southampton way) then they will consider their futures. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 0

1:16pm Wed 30 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential.

And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.
So, you mean if we turn down all offers, then MoPo will extend?
That’s exactly what Seed means, I can also reveal his source ..... It’s his neighbour Dirty Gerty at number thirty with her weekly tea leaf reading.
How did you know!?!
It was her son Dirty MacSquirty wot done the dirty.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential. And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.[/p][/quote]So, you mean if we turn down all offers, then MoPo will extend?[/p][/quote]That’s exactly what Seed means, I can also reveal his source ..... It’s his neighbour Dirty Gerty at number thirty with her weekly tea leaf reading.[/p][/quote]How did you know!?![/p][/quote]It was her son Dirty MacSquirty wot done the dirty. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

1:20pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

BracknellSaint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential.

And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.
So, you mean if we turn down all offers, then MoPo will extend?
Not quite. Yes, if the players stay so does the management team. But I think what was being said was we will need to pay them the going rate and they will stay. 'The board is being pushed.'
Fair enough. I had a fear that the players would only stay if MoPo does, but it seems it's the other way around?
I think that surely Adam needs to get paid what Dani/Ramirez are on, and Luke should get a boost, as should Jay , Morgan, Cork.
Getting Dani off the payroll, even if it means losing loads on the transfer, wouls surely cover these rises?
And there must still be a number of players on the books getting paid that will never play for us again, so get them out.
Well it looks to me like it's pretty much as most of us had guessed. They're in it together and would like to carry on with 'the project' or 'the vision' or 'the Southampton Way' or whatever it's called - the thing they were all sold by NC.

One thing NC was crap at was off loading players once we weren't going to use them again. Take Billy Sharp. Signed to get us promoted, scored a net full of goals and did the job. How could he be worth less than the £1.8m we paid for him? If anything his value should have gone up and must be attractive to a team trying to get out of the Championship?
[quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential. And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.[/p][/quote]So, you mean if we turn down all offers, then MoPo will extend?[/p][/quote]Not quite. Yes, if the players stay so does the management team. But I think what was being said was we will need to pay them the going rate and they will stay. 'The board is being pushed.'[/p][/quote]Fair enough. I had a fear that the players would only stay if MoPo does, but it seems it's the other way around? I think that surely Adam needs to get paid what Dani/Ramirez are on, and Luke should get a boost, as should Jay , Morgan, Cork. Getting Dani off the payroll, even if it means losing loads on the transfer, wouls surely cover these rises? And there must still be a number of players on the books getting paid that will never play for us again, so get them out.[/p][/quote]Well it looks to me like it's pretty much as most of us had guessed. They're in it together and would like to carry on with 'the project' or 'the vision' or 'the Southampton Way' or whatever it's called - the thing they were all sold by NC. One thing NC was crap at was off loading players once we weren't going to use them again. Take Billy Sharp. Signed to get us promoted, scored a net full of goals and did the job. How could he be worth less than the £1.8m we paid for him? If anything his value should have gone up and must be attractive to a team trying to get out of the Championship? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 3

1:28pm Wed 30 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

george chivers wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Les Reed obviously made his surprise statement last week in an exasperated attempt to dampen these swirling rumours. He must be even more exasperated now as he was not only ignored by the media, but the rumour mill has just switched up a gear.

He may have to appear again methinks in order to deny the strong rumour that he is going to appear again.
The trouble is Les Reed is not the man the media want to quote. All the quotes in the world from Les Reed don't carry any weight.
They carry a bit more weight than yours do though.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Les Reed obviously made his surprise statement last week in an exasperated attempt to dampen these swirling rumours. He must be even more exasperated now as he was not only ignored by the media, but the rumour mill has just switched up a gear. He may have to appear again methinks in order to deny the strong rumour that he is going to appear again.[/p][/quote]The trouble is Les Reed is not the man the media want to quote. All the quotes in the world from Les Reed don't carry any weight.[/p][/quote]They carry a bit more weight than yours do though. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

1:30pm Wed 30 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

StElsass wrote:
I see this has now become a create your own rumour page. This is getting fun! One i particularly liked this morning on another website is telling us that we have invited offers for all our star players as we need to balance our books.
But the top one has to be this site called something like THFC denying that spurs have approached any managers! Where do they get these from, you wonder!
I heard a rumour that saints are trying to trademark the "Southampton star in transfer rumour" and "saints players in transfer rumour" phrases.
[quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: I see this has now become a create your own rumour page. This is getting fun! One i particularly liked this morning on another website is telling us that we have invited offers for all our star players as we need to balance our books. But the top one has to be this site called something like THFC denying that spurs have approached any managers! Where do they get these from, you wonder![/p][/quote]I heard a rumour that saints are trying to trademark the "Southampton star in transfer rumour" and "saints players in transfer rumour" phrases. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 1

1:33pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Mush On The Beach says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential.

And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.
So, you mean if we turn down all offers, then MoPo will extend?
That’s exactly what Seed means, I can also reveal his source ..... It’s his neighbour Dirty Gerty at number thirty with her weekly tea leaf reading.
How did you know!?!
It was her son Dirty MacSquirty wot done the dirty.
It was a PG Tips off .... I'll get my coat.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential. And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.[/p][/quote]So, you mean if we turn down all offers, then MoPo will extend?[/p][/quote]That’s exactly what Seed means, I can also reveal his source ..... It’s his neighbour Dirty Gerty at number thirty with her weekly tea leaf reading.[/p][/quote]How did you know!?![/p][/quote]It was her son Dirty MacSquirty wot done the dirty.[/p][/quote]It was a PG Tips off .... I'll get my coat. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 1

1:34pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential.

And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.
So, you mean if we turn down all offers, then MoPo will extend?
Not quite. Yes, if the players stay so does the management team. But I think what was being said was we will need to pay them the going rate and they will stay. 'The board is being pushed.'
£75k a year is £3.9mill, however players expect to get the entire salary and want the club to pay the taxes on their wages (something poopey weren't doing), so £75k a week could end up at around £6mill a year, I am no expert on the higher rate of tax though (you must be seed!).
to have 4-5 players on that wage is a hell of a lot of money and that's why RK is set on increasing the revenues from shirt deals etc. we have an increase in prem league prize money from last season and tv income has gone up. selling Osvaldo for around £10mill would not only clear his wages but also give the club more money for wages or signings.
I`m not sure lalla will be offered £75k here though but anything around £60k should be enough for him surely.
I think your right though, the players and MP are pushing the board for answers, they want to stay and to progress as a unit but if the board aren't prepared to fund the progression (the Southampton way) then they will consider their futures.
What's tax?
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential. And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.[/p][/quote]So, you mean if we turn down all offers, then MoPo will extend?[/p][/quote]Not quite. Yes, if the players stay so does the management team. But I think what was being said was we will need to pay them the going rate and they will stay. 'The board is being pushed.'[/p][/quote]£75k a year is £3.9mill, however players expect to get the entire salary and want the club to pay the taxes on their wages (something poopey weren't doing), so £75k a week could end up at around £6mill a year, I am no expert on the higher rate of tax though (you must be seed!). to have 4-5 players on that wage is a hell of a lot of money and that's why RK is set on increasing the revenues from shirt deals etc. we have an increase in prem league prize money from last season and tv income has gone up. selling Osvaldo for around £10mill would not only clear his wages but also give the club more money for wages or signings. I`m not sure lalla will be offered £75k here though but anything around £60k should be enough for him surely. I think your right though, the players and MP are pushing the board for answers, they want to stay and to progress as a unit but if the board aren't prepared to fund the progression (the Southampton way) then they will consider their futures.[/p][/quote]What's tax? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 5

1:38pm Wed 30 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

rumours rumours, f I see any more rumours I might go mad!
goal.com saying saints will listen to bids of £15mill for spider.
whilst metro are running with this little beauty,
Newspaper reports have suggested Liverpool are in pole position in the race to sign Southampton’s Adam Lallana as the Reds try to add to their squad ahead of next season’s Champions League adventure.
The England midfielder is believed to have his heart set on a move to Anfield. Chelsea and Manchester United are also interested but Liverpool are reportedly confident they can land the 25-year-old for around £20million and that Southampton owner Katharina Liebherr is prepared to allow a sale to happen.

are we not in the `race` to sign our own player/s then? are we not in pole position because we have them signed already and other clubs cant talk to them unless we allow it?
rumours rumours, f I see any more rumours I might go mad! goal.com saying saints will listen to bids of £15mill for spider. whilst metro are running with this little beauty, Newspaper reports have suggested Liverpool are in pole position in the race to sign Southampton’s Adam Lallana as the Reds try to add to their squad ahead of next season’s Champions League adventure. The England midfielder is believed to have his heart set on a move to Anfield. Chelsea and Manchester United are also interested but Liverpool are reportedly confident they can land the 25-year-old for around £20million and that Southampton owner Katharina Liebherr is prepared to allow a sale to happen. are we not in the `race` to sign our own player/s then? are we not in pole position because we have them signed already and other clubs cant talk to them unless we allow it? el caballo santos101
  • Score: 2

1:45pm Wed 30 Apr 14

lowe esteem says...

george chivers wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Les Reed obviously made his surprise statement last week in an exasperated attempt to dampen these swirling rumours. He must be even more exasperated now as he was not only ignored by the media, but the rumour mill has just switched up a gear.

He may have to appear again methinks in order to deny the strong rumour that he is going to appear again.
The trouble is Les Reed is not the man the media want to quote. All the quotes in the world from Les Reed don't carry any weight.
...and they're probably sincere and true words, what can the media do with that, eh?
Perhaps if we up the volume and support ALL club officials and players, we can really give the London-centric hacks (which obviously includes Manure) a further kick in the ball-aches, no transfers no bungs. Up The Saints.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Les Reed obviously made his surprise statement last week in an exasperated attempt to dampen these swirling rumours. He must be even more exasperated now as he was not only ignored by the media, but the rumour mill has just switched up a gear. He may have to appear again methinks in order to deny the strong rumour that he is going to appear again.[/p][/quote]The trouble is Les Reed is not the man the media want to quote. All the quotes in the world from Les Reed don't carry any weight.[/p][/quote]...and they're probably sincere and true words, what can the media do with that, eh? Perhaps if we up the volume and support ALL club officials and players, we can really give the London-centric hacks (which obviously includes Manure) a further kick in the ball-aches, no transfers no bungs. Up The Saints. lowe esteem
  • Score: 0

2:02pm Wed 30 Apr 14

george chivers says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Les Reed obviously made his surprise statement last week in an exasperated attempt to dampen these swirling rumours. He must be even more exasperated now as he was not only ignored by the media, but the rumour mill has just switched up a gear.

He may have to appear again methinks in order to deny the strong rumour that he is going to appear again.
The trouble is Les Reed is not the man the media want to quote. All the quotes in the world from Les Reed don't carry any weight.
They carry a bit more weight than yours do though.
What I meant Ospers, if you could read between the lines was that any statement that doesn't come from the top man, i.e.Ralph K has no weight or substance and is not worth publishing in a national newspaper.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Les Reed obviously made his surprise statement last week in an exasperated attempt to dampen these swirling rumours. He must be even more exasperated now as he was not only ignored by the media, but the rumour mill has just switched up a gear. He may have to appear again methinks in order to deny the strong rumour that he is going to appear again.[/p][/quote]The trouble is Les Reed is not the man the media want to quote. All the quotes in the world from Les Reed don't carry any weight.[/p][/quote]They carry a bit more weight than yours do though.[/p][/quote]What I meant Ospers, if you could read between the lines was that any statement that doesn't come from the top man, i.e.Ralph K has no weight or substance and is not worth publishing in a national newspaper. george chivers
  • Score: -5

2:04pm Wed 30 Apr 14

SaintJD says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential.

And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.
You, I can believe, others I am not so sure. It is going to be very difficult for Adam to decide what to do and only he can make that choice, whatever it is, he will get my support, I hope he stays, but as ever, one Player does not make a Team, if he goes we simply seek a suitable replacement and adjust the side accordingly. We have all mulled over the Pros and Cons, and I am none the wiser about what would be the best path to chose. A similar conundrum must be going through Lukes, and MP's minds, should I stay or should I go, sorry people I just don't know.
I honestly don't think it would take a great amount of effort to get Adam to commit to the club, and that's the same for several players, Shaw being a possible exception because he knows he can pick any team he wants and hasn't been as involved in the journey from League 1.

All we need is to show ambition to break into the top six and a continued belief in our brand of football and youth ethic. That's why securing MP is actually the key to everything, because if we keep him, it's clear to everyone that we've convinced him we are going places.

If MP signs, Adam will sign, regardless of interest from elsewhere. That's my opinion. He genuinely loves the club, he genuinely loves being captain and leading young players through as he's said in recent interviews.

If he does choose to leave, I suggest that his first priority is joining a club that see him as an intrinsic first choice player and (almost) guaranteed starter. For me that only leaves a couple of options, none of which are nailed on to win any more than if we made the next step up.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential. And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.[/p][/quote]You, I can believe, others I am not so sure. It is going to be very difficult for Adam to decide what to do and only he can make that choice, whatever it is, he will get my support, I hope he stays, but as ever, one Player does not make a Team, if he goes we simply seek a suitable replacement and adjust the side accordingly. We have all mulled over the Pros and Cons, and I am none the wiser about what would be the best path to chose. A similar conundrum must be going through Lukes, and MP's minds, should I stay or should I go, sorry people I just don't know.[/p][/quote]I honestly don't think it would take a great amount of effort to get Adam to commit to the club, and that's the same for several players, Shaw being a possible exception because he knows he can pick any team he wants and hasn't been as involved in the journey from League 1. All we need is to show ambition to break into the top six and a continued belief in our brand of football and youth ethic. That's why securing MP is actually the key to everything, because if we keep him, it's clear to everyone that we've convinced him we are going places. If MP signs, Adam will sign, regardless of interest from elsewhere. That's my opinion. He genuinely loves the club, he genuinely loves being captain and leading young players through as he's said in recent interviews. If he does choose to leave, I suggest that his first priority is joining a club that see him as an intrinsic first choice player and (almost) guaranteed starter. For me that only leaves a couple of options, none of which are nailed on to win any more than if we made the next step up. SaintJD
  • Score: 2

2:14pm Wed 30 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

StElsass wrote:
I see this has now become a create your own rumour page. This is getting fun! One i particularly liked this morning on another website is telling us that we have invited offers for all our star players as we need to balance our books.
But the top one has to be this site called something like THFC denying that spurs have approached any managers! Where do they get these from, you wonder!
It isn't all one way, according to Twitter we are signing Kasper Schmeichel on a free and Tevez too!
[quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: I see this has now become a create your own rumour page. This is getting fun! One i particularly liked this morning on another website is telling us that we have invited offers for all our star players as we need to balance our books. But the top one has to be this site called something like THFC denying that spurs have approached any managers! Where do they get these from, you wonder![/p][/quote]It isn't all one way, according to Twitter we are signing Kasper Schmeichel on a free and Tevez too! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -3

2:34pm Wed 30 Apr 14

StElsass says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
StElsass wrote:
I see this has now become a create your own rumour page. This is getting fun! One i particularly liked this morning on another website is telling us that we have invited offers for all our star players as we need to balance our books.
But the top one has to be this site called something like THFC denying that spurs have approached any managers! Where do they get these from, you wonder!
It isn't all one way, according to Twitter we are signing Kasper Schmeichel on a free and Tevez too!
I know it's brilliant isn't it? There was even some bloke last week who came out to say we haven't agreed to sell any of our players!!! Imagine! That was a bit far fetched though. Not surprised no one took any notice.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: I see this has now become a create your own rumour page. This is getting fun! One i particularly liked this morning on another website is telling us that we have invited offers for all our star players as we need to balance our books. But the top one has to be this site called something like THFC denying that spurs have approached any managers! Where do they get these from, you wonder![/p][/quote]It isn't all one way, according to Twitter we are signing Kasper Schmeichel on a free and Tevez too![/p][/quote]I know it's brilliant isn't it? There was even some bloke last week who came out to say we haven't agreed to sell any of our players!!! Imagine! That was a bit far fetched though. Not surprised no one took any notice. StElsass
  • Score: 2

2:45pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Costa Baz says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential. And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.
You, I can believe, others I am not so sure. It is going to be very difficult for Adam to decide what to do and only he can make that choice, whatever it is, he will get my support, I hope he stays, but as ever, one Player does not make a Team, if he goes we simply seek a suitable replacement and adjust the side accordingly. We have all mulled over the Pros and Cons, and I am none the wiser about what would be the best path to chose. A similar conundrum must be going through Lukes, and MP's minds, should I stay or should I go, sorry people I just don't know.
My understanding was that everyone is keen to stay but it is in the boards hands. I presume that means the board will need to offer Adam (and maybe others) a new deal that he is happy with and keeps him here, which I guess has to be close to what he may be offered by other clubs. If we were to sell him 25% goes to the club named after a small fruit so that's a big chunk. I don't know what the players are on but if Adam is on about £35k and Dani and Gaston £75k I'd be a bit miffed if I was Adam. The board need to offer the players the type of wages others are offering them and they will stay. I suppose our academy can save us the transfer fees but not the wages, but how many other clubs have developed a couple of hundred million pounds worth of talent in one go? More if you count Oxo, Walcott and Bale.
Is there enough in the kitty to increase the wages of the players AND fund the squad improvement, or is it Catch 22?

Hope your source doesn't get crucified.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential. And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.[/p][/quote]You, I can believe, others I am not so sure. It is going to be very difficult for Adam to decide what to do and only he can make that choice, whatever it is, he will get my support, I hope he stays, but as ever, one Player does not make a Team, if he goes we simply seek a suitable replacement and adjust the side accordingly. We have all mulled over the Pros and Cons, and I am none the wiser about what would be the best path to chose. A similar conundrum must be going through Lukes, and MP's minds, should I stay or should I go, sorry people I just don't know.[/p][/quote]My understanding was that everyone is keen to stay but it is in the boards hands. I presume that means the board will need to offer Adam (and maybe others) a new deal that he is happy with and keeps him here, which I guess has to be close to what he may be offered by other clubs. If we were to sell him 25% goes to the club named after a small fruit so that's a big chunk. I don't know what the players are on but if Adam is on about £35k and Dani and Gaston £75k I'd be a bit miffed if I was Adam. The board need to offer the players the type of wages others are offering them and they will stay. I suppose our academy can save us the transfer fees but not the wages, but how many other clubs have developed a couple of hundred million pounds worth of talent in one go? More if you count Oxo, Walcott and Bale.[/p][/quote]Is there enough in the kitty to increase the wages of the players AND fund the squad improvement, or is it Catch 22? Hope your source doesn't get crucified. Costa Baz
  • Score: 1

2:52pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Costa Baz wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential. And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.
You, I can believe, others I am not so sure. It is going to be very difficult for Adam to decide what to do and only he can make that choice, whatever it is, he will get my support, I hope he stays, but as ever, one Player does not make a Team, if he goes we simply seek a suitable replacement and adjust the side accordingly. We have all mulled over the Pros and Cons, and I am none the wiser about what would be the best path to chose. A similar conundrum must be going through Lukes, and MP's minds, should I stay or should I go, sorry people I just don't know.
My understanding was that everyone is keen to stay but it is in the boards hands. I presume that means the board will need to offer Adam (and maybe others) a new deal that he is happy with and keeps him here, which I guess has to be close to what he may be offered by other clubs. If we were to sell him 25% goes to the club named after a small fruit so that's a big chunk. I don't know what the players are on but if Adam is on about £35k and Dani and Gaston £75k I'd be a bit miffed if I was Adam. The board need to offer the players the type of wages others are offering them and they will stay. I suppose our academy can save us the transfer fees but not the wages, but how many other clubs have developed a couple of hundred million pounds worth of talent in one go? More if you count Oxo, Walcott and Bale.
Is there enough in the kitty to increase the wages of the players AND fund the squad improvement, or is it Catch 22?

Hope your source doesn't get crucified.
:o)

I was thinking the same. If we increase the wages to Adam, Morgan, Jack, Jay, Luke, Calum, Nat, Dejan et al how are we supposed to pay new players?!?

I feel sorry for Kat. If she now invests heavily and moves us on she probably wont increase the value of the club that much, and if it doesn't work she will lose a wedge. I think she needs to decide to invest or sell the club, hanging around whilst all the talent buggers off will only end in tears.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential. And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.[/p][/quote]You, I can believe, others I am not so sure. It is going to be very difficult for Adam to decide what to do and only he can make that choice, whatever it is, he will get my support, I hope he stays, but as ever, one Player does not make a Team, if he goes we simply seek a suitable replacement and adjust the side accordingly. We have all mulled over the Pros and Cons, and I am none the wiser about what would be the best path to chose. A similar conundrum must be going through Lukes, and MP's minds, should I stay or should I go, sorry people I just don't know.[/p][/quote]My understanding was that everyone is keen to stay but it is in the boards hands. I presume that means the board will need to offer Adam (and maybe others) a new deal that he is happy with and keeps him here, which I guess has to be close to what he may be offered by other clubs. If we were to sell him 25% goes to the club named after a small fruit so that's a big chunk. I don't know what the players are on but if Adam is on about £35k and Dani and Gaston £75k I'd be a bit miffed if I was Adam. The board need to offer the players the type of wages others are offering them and they will stay. I suppose our academy can save us the transfer fees but not the wages, but how many other clubs have developed a couple of hundred million pounds worth of talent in one go? More if you count Oxo, Walcott and Bale.[/p][/quote]Is there enough in the kitty to increase the wages of the players AND fund the squad improvement, or is it Catch 22? Hope your source doesn't get crucified.[/p][/quote]:o) I was thinking the same. If we increase the wages to Adam, Morgan, Jack, Jay, Luke, Calum, Nat, Dejan et al how are we supposed to pay new players?!? I feel sorry for Kat. If she now invests heavily and moves us on she probably wont increase the value of the club that much, and if it doesn't work she will lose a wedge. I think she needs to decide to invest or sell the club, hanging around whilst all the talent buggers off will only end in tears. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 6

2:52pm Wed 30 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

StElsass wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
StElsass wrote:
I see this has now become a create your own rumour page. This is getting fun! One i particularly liked this morning on another website is telling us that we have invited offers for all our star players as we need to balance our books.
But the top one has to be this site called something like THFC denying that spurs have approached any managers! Where do they get these from, you wonder!
It isn't all one way, according to Twitter we are signing Kasper Schmeichel on a free and Tevez too!
I know it's brilliant isn't it? There was even some bloke last week who came out to say we haven't agreed to sell any of our players!!! Imagine! That was a bit far fetched though. Not surprised no one took any notice.
well if it wasn't RK or god then his words would carry no weight and that's why no one has heard a thing about this statement you mention. I also saw rumour of this statement on the saintsfc website. im not sure who this bloke is and totally understand why even some of our own fans don't believe a word he says.
from what I understand via rumour sites is that the statement had plenty of substance to it and it came from the person in charge of transfers and contracts at the club, and not the person above him who would have been told what to say by this `director of football` as I think he was called!
strange goings on if you ask me, this could be a case for mulder and scully!
[quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: I see this has now become a create your own rumour page. This is getting fun! One i particularly liked this morning on another website is telling us that we have invited offers for all our star players as we need to balance our books. But the top one has to be this site called something like THFC denying that spurs have approached any managers! Where do they get these from, you wonder![/p][/quote]It isn't all one way, according to Twitter we are signing Kasper Schmeichel on a free and Tevez too![/p][/quote]I know it's brilliant isn't it? There was even some bloke last week who came out to say we haven't agreed to sell any of our players!!! Imagine! That was a bit far fetched though. Not surprised no one took any notice.[/p][/quote]well if it wasn't RK or god then his words would carry no weight and that's why no one has heard a thing about this statement you mention. I also saw rumour of this statement on the saintsfc website. im not sure who this bloke is and totally understand why even some of our own fans don't believe a word he says. from what I understand via rumour sites is that the statement had plenty of substance to it and it came from the person in charge of transfers and contracts at the club, and not the person above him who would have been told what to say by this `director of football` as I think he was called! strange goings on if you ask me, this could be a case for mulder and scully! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 0

3:32pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Costa Baz says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential. And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.
You, I can believe, others I am not so sure. It is going to be very difficult for Adam to decide what to do and only he can make that choice, whatever it is, he will get my support, I hope he stays, but as ever, one Player does not make a Team, if he goes we simply seek a suitable replacement and adjust the side accordingly. We have all mulled over the Pros and Cons, and I am none the wiser about what would be the best path to chose. A similar conundrum must be going through Lukes, and MP's minds, should I stay or should I go, sorry people I just don't know.
My understanding was that everyone is keen to stay but it is in the boards hands. I presume that means the board will need to offer Adam (and maybe others) a new deal that he is happy with and keeps him here, which I guess has to be close to what he may be offered by other clubs. If we were to sell him 25% goes to the club named after a small fruit so that's a big chunk. I don't know what the players are on but if Adam is on about £35k and Dani and Gaston £75k I'd be a bit miffed if I was Adam. The board need to offer the players the type of wages others are offering them and they will stay. I suppose our academy can save us the transfer fees but not the wages, but how many other clubs have developed a couple of hundred million pounds worth of talent in one go? More if you count Oxo, Walcott and Bale.
Is there enough in the kitty to increase the wages of the players AND fund the squad improvement, or is it Catch 22? Hope your source doesn't get crucified.
:o) I was thinking the same. If we increase the wages to Adam, Morgan, Jack, Jay, Luke, Calum, Nat, Dejan et al how are we supposed to pay new players?!? I feel sorry for Kat. If she now invests heavily and moves us on she probably wont increase the value of the club that much, and if it doesn't work she will lose a wedge. I think she needs to decide to invest or sell the club, hanging around whilst all the talent buggers off will only end in tears.
This is where Freddie will have to earn his corn, with "commercialising the club".
Shirt sponsorship, for teams that are below us in the table, for 2013/14, including Fulham, Stoke and Villa, is around £5m a year.
Arsenal top that league with £30m (😮😮), apparently.

Stadium naming rights don't seem to attract as much money, with the two Manc teams getting around £35m (is Old Trafford sponsored?) while the other 18 teams get around £40m between them.
Emirates is a "lowly" £6.75m and third highest.
I've heard that the Etihad naming rights deal may come under scrutiny, as it may be that the owner is using it as a means of pumping in extra money and circumventing the FFP. Which is probably true when you compare what Citeh get (£18m), compared to what the Gunners and other top teams get.

So, bearing in mind the above, more than £10m per annum on shirt and stadium naming rights, could be considered a decent effort, compared to our current circumstances and compared to other teams in the league, outside the top 6 or so.
That would work out at around £192,000 per week, or £32,000 pay rises for a select 6 players.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential. And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.[/p][/quote]You, I can believe, others I am not so sure. It is going to be very difficult for Adam to decide what to do and only he can make that choice, whatever it is, he will get my support, I hope he stays, but as ever, one Player does not make a Team, if he goes we simply seek a suitable replacement and adjust the side accordingly. We have all mulled over the Pros and Cons, and I am none the wiser about what would be the best path to chose. A similar conundrum must be going through Lukes, and MP's minds, should I stay or should I go, sorry people I just don't know.[/p][/quote]My understanding was that everyone is keen to stay but it is in the boards hands. I presume that means the board will need to offer Adam (and maybe others) a new deal that he is happy with and keeps him here, which I guess has to be close to what he may be offered by other clubs. If we were to sell him 25% goes to the club named after a small fruit so that's a big chunk. I don't know what the players are on but if Adam is on about £35k and Dani and Gaston £75k I'd be a bit miffed if I was Adam. The board need to offer the players the type of wages others are offering them and they will stay. I suppose our academy can save us the transfer fees but not the wages, but how many other clubs have developed a couple of hundred million pounds worth of talent in one go? More if you count Oxo, Walcott and Bale.[/p][/quote]Is there enough in the kitty to increase the wages of the players AND fund the squad improvement, or is it Catch 22? Hope your source doesn't get crucified.[/p][/quote]:o) I was thinking the same. If we increase the wages to Adam, Morgan, Jack, Jay, Luke, Calum, Nat, Dejan et al how are we supposed to pay new players?!? I feel sorry for Kat. If she now invests heavily and moves us on she probably wont increase the value of the club that much, and if it doesn't work she will lose a wedge. I think she needs to decide to invest or sell the club, hanging around whilst all the talent buggers off will only end in tears.[/p][/quote]This is where Freddie will have to earn his corn, with "commercialising the club". Shirt sponsorship, for teams that are below us in the table, for 2013/14, including Fulham, Stoke and Villa, is around £5m a year. Arsenal top that league with £30m (😮😮), apparently. Stadium naming rights don't seem to attract as much money, with the two Manc teams getting around £35m (is Old Trafford sponsored?) while the other 18 teams get around £40m between them. Emirates is a "lowly" £6.75m and third highest. I've heard that the Etihad naming rights deal may come under scrutiny, as it may be that the owner is using it as a means of pumping in extra money and circumventing the FFP. Which is probably true when you compare what Citeh get (£18m), compared to what the Gunners and other top teams get. So, bearing in mind the above, more than £10m per annum on shirt and stadium naming rights, could be considered a decent effort, compared to our current circumstances and compared to other teams in the league, outside the top 6 or so. That would work out at around £192,000 per week, or £32,000 pay rises for a select 6 players. Costa Baz
  • Score: 0

3:35pm Wed 30 Apr 14

St Forlife says...

I have been reading a lot of this and for me it's quite simple.

We are comfortably a top half prem team as it stands. Selling AL and or LS etc for say £70m or so does not make much sense in my book. Without them we are likely to be a bottom half prem team and in the bottom half with 5 or 6 games to go it's pretty much any 3 from 10 for the drop. Such a risk does not make any sense whatsoever as the costs of relegation are ... well not going there.

Consequently, the only reason to sell will be to create profit in a trading year and for dividend payments to shareholders - in other words sell them to trouser profits. If that happens then that sends a terrible message to the fan base and a statement of future ambition. Forget the 'they had to go for better offers" etc - they are under contract.

On the other hand - yes as said before selling Ossi and GR will raise around £15m - £20m or poss more - that funds increased wages for certain top players. In fact with £80m through the door less £30m of outstanding transfer fees we have another £50m left to fund the squad. Absolutely no need to sell anyone. Instead a bit of investment takes us to a top 6 position (I joked with a mate we'd finish 14th in 1st year back in the prem, 8th year 2 and top 5 year 3!!!). Investing more now is as safe as it will ever get because the current squad will NOT get relegated if kept together - the first time in living memory we have been able to say that - far too much quality.

So any sale or release of MoPo for me is a statement that the shareholders want to cash in and continue to do so whilst aiming at mid table as if that is success. Come on board - let's take this club right to the top - you don't need to buy 11 expensive ego's but create an ethos and keep bringing through quality lads - not selling them to our competitors.
I have been reading a lot of this and for me it's quite simple. We are comfortably a top half prem team as it stands. Selling AL and or LS etc for say £70m or so does not make much sense in my book. Without them we are likely to be a bottom half prem team and in the bottom half with 5 or 6 games to go it's pretty much any 3 from 10 for the drop. Such a risk does not make any sense whatsoever as the costs of relegation are ... well not going there. Consequently, the only reason to sell will be to create profit in a trading year and for dividend payments to shareholders - in other words sell them to trouser profits. If that happens then that sends a terrible message to the fan base and a statement of future ambition. Forget the 'they had to go for better offers" etc - they are under contract. On the other hand - yes as said before selling Ossi and GR will raise around £15m - £20m or poss more - that funds increased wages for certain top players. In fact with £80m through the door less £30m of outstanding transfer fees we have another £50m left to fund the squad. Absolutely no need to sell anyone. Instead a bit of investment takes us to a top 6 position (I joked with a mate we'd finish 14th in 1st year back in the prem, 8th year 2 and top 5 year 3!!!). Investing more now is as safe as it will ever get because the current squad will NOT get relegated if kept together - the first time in living memory we have been able to say that - far too much quality. So any sale or release of MoPo for me is a statement that the shareholders want to cash in and continue to do so whilst aiming at mid table as if that is success. Come on board - let's take this club right to the top - you don't need to buy 11 expensive ego's but create an ethos and keep bringing through quality lads - not selling them to our competitors. St Forlife
  • Score: 4

3:37pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Costa Baz says...

Costa Baz wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential. And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.
You, I can believe, others I am not so sure. It is going to be very difficult for Adam to decide what to do and only he can make that choice, whatever it is, he will get my support, I hope he stays, but as ever, one Player does not make a Team, if he goes we simply seek a suitable replacement and adjust the side accordingly. We have all mulled over the Pros and Cons, and I am none the wiser about what would be the best path to chose. A similar conundrum must be going through Lukes, and MP's minds, should I stay or should I go, sorry people I just don't know.
My understanding was that everyone is keen to stay but it is in the boards hands. I presume that means the board will need to offer Adam (and maybe others) a new deal that he is happy with and keeps him here, which I guess has to be close to what he may be offered by other clubs. If we were to sell him 25% goes to the club named after a small fruit so that's a big chunk. I don't know what the players are on but if Adam is on about £35k and Dani and Gaston £75k I'd be a bit miffed if I was Adam. The board need to offer the players the type of wages others are offering them and they will stay. I suppose our academy can save us the transfer fees but not the wages, but how many other clubs have developed a couple of hundred million pounds worth of talent in one go? More if you count Oxo, Walcott and Bale.
Is there enough in the kitty to increase the wages of the players AND fund the squad improvement, or is it Catch 22? Hope your source doesn't get crucified.
:o) I was thinking the same. If we increase the wages to Adam, Morgan, Jack, Jay, Luke, Calum, Nat, Dejan et al how are we supposed to pay new players?!? I feel sorry for Kat. If she now invests heavily and moves us on she probably wont increase the value of the club that much, and if it doesn't work she will lose a wedge. I think she needs to decide to invest or sell the club, hanging around whilst all the talent buggers off will only end in tears.
This is where Freddie will have to earn his corn, with "commercialisin
g the club". Shirt sponsorship, for teams that are below us in the table, for 2013/14, including Fulham, Stoke and Villa, is around £5m a year. Arsenal top that league with £30m (😮😮), apparently. Stadium naming rights don't seem to attract as much money, with the two Manc teams getting around £35m (is Old Trafford sponsored?) while the other 18 teams get around £40m between them. Emirates is a "lowly" £6.75m and third highest. I've heard that the Etihad naming rights deal may come under scrutiny, as it may be that the owner is using it as a means of pumping in extra money and circumventing the FFP. Which is probably true when you compare what Citeh get (£18m), compared to what the Gunners and other top teams get. So, bearing in mind the above, more than £10m per annum on shirt and stadium naming rights, could be considered a decent effort, compared to our current circumstances and compared to other teams in the league, outside the top 6 or so. That would work out at around £192,000 per week, or £32,000 pay rises for a select 6 players.
Actually Manure's shirt deal may be twice that of Arsenal's.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Adam is the key to the whole thing. I now know that the reason the management team haven't committed is because they are pressing the board to keep the existing players. Adam is loyal but is aware he is 26 next month and wants to maximise his earning potential. And no Ospers I'm not quoting my source but if you've read my recent posts it's pretty obvious.[/p][/quote]You, I can believe, others I am not so sure. It is going to be very difficult for Adam to decide what to do and only he can make that choice, whatever it is, he will get my support, I hope he stays, but as ever, one Player does not make a Team, if he goes we simply seek a suitable replacement and adjust the side accordingly. We have all mulled over the Pros and Cons, and I am none the wiser about what would be the best path to chose. A similar conundrum must be going through Lukes, and MP's minds, should I stay or should I go, sorry people I just don't know.[/p][/quote]My understanding was that everyone is keen to stay but it is in the boards hands. I presume that means the board will need to offer Adam (and maybe others) a new deal that he is happy with and keeps him here, which I guess has to be close to what he may be offered by other clubs. If we were to sell him 25% goes to the club named after a small fruit so that's a big chunk. I don't know what the players are on but if Adam is on about £35k and Dani and Gaston £75k I'd be a bit miffed if I was Adam. The board need to offer the players the type of wages others are offering them and they will stay. I suppose our academy can save us the transfer fees but not the wages, but how many other clubs have developed a couple of hundred million pounds worth of talent in one go? More if you count Oxo, Walcott and Bale.[/p][/quote]Is there enough in the kitty to increase the wages of the players AND fund the squad improvement, or is it Catch 22? Hope your source doesn't get crucified.[/p][/quote]:o) I was thinking the same. If we increase the wages to Adam, Morgan, Jack, Jay, Luke, Calum, Nat, Dejan et al how are we supposed to pay new players?!? I feel sorry for Kat. If she now invests heavily and moves us on she probably wont increase the value of the club that much, and if it doesn't work she will lose a wedge. I think she needs to decide to invest or sell the club, hanging around whilst all the talent buggers off will only end in tears.[/p][/quote]This is where Freddie will have to earn his corn, with "commercialisin g the club". Shirt sponsorship, for teams that are below us in the table, for 2013/14, including Fulham, Stoke and Villa, is around £5m a year. Arsenal top that league with £30m (😮😮), apparently. Stadium naming rights don't seem to attract as much money, with the two Manc teams getting around £35m (is Old Trafford sponsored?) while the other 18 teams get around £40m between them. Emirates is a "lowly" £6.75m and third highest. I've heard that the Etihad naming rights deal may come under scrutiny, as it may be that the owner is using it as a means of pumping in extra money and circumventing the FFP. Which is probably true when you compare what Citeh get (£18m), compared to what the Gunners and other top teams get. So, bearing in mind the above, more than £10m per annum on shirt and stadium naming rights, could be considered a decent effort, compared to our current circumstances and compared to other teams in the league, outside the top 6 or so. That would work out at around £192,000 per week, or £32,000 pay rises for a select 6 players.[/p][/quote]Actually Manure's shirt deal may be twice that of Arsenal's. Costa Baz
  • Score: 0

3:51pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Littleton-Saint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
StElsass wrote:
I see this has now become a create your own rumour page. This is getting fun! One i particularly liked this morning on another website is telling us that we have invited offers for all our star players as we need to balance our books.
But the top one has to be this site called something like THFC denying that spurs have approached any managers! Where do they get these from, you wonder!
It isn't all one way, according to Twitter we are signing Kasper Schmeichel on a free and Tevez too!
With the sale of our current first team to all the teams above us whom we hate, it's reassuring to know that we have Schmeichel and Tevez joining us.
Nine more players and we'll be in a position to field a team next season.
All we need do is sit back and watch The Sunday Supplement journos rearrange our squad!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: I see this has now become a create your own rumour page. This is getting fun! One i particularly liked this morning on another website is telling us that we have invited offers for all our star players as we need to balance our books. But the top one has to be this site called something like THFC denying that spurs have approached any managers! Where do they get these from, you wonder![/p][/quote]It isn't all one way, according to Twitter we are signing Kasper Schmeichel on a free and Tevez too![/p][/quote]With the sale of our current first team to all the teams above us whom we hate, it's reassuring to know that we have Schmeichel and Tevez joining us. Nine more players and we'll be in a position to field a team next season. All we need do is sit back and watch The Sunday Supplement journos rearrange our squad! Littleton-Saint
  • Score: 2

3:53pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

St Forlife wrote:
I have been reading a lot of this and for me it's quite simple.

We are comfortably a top half prem team as it stands. Selling AL and or LS etc for say £70m or so does not make much sense in my book. Without them we are likely to be a bottom half prem team and in the bottom half with 5 or 6 games to go it's pretty much any 3 from 10 for the drop. Such a risk does not make any sense whatsoever as the costs of relegation are ... well not going there.

Consequently, the only reason to sell will be to create profit in a trading year and for dividend payments to shareholders - in other words sell them to trouser profits. If that happens then that sends a terrible message to the fan base and a statement of future ambition. Forget the 'they had to go for better offers" etc - they are under contract.

On the other hand - yes as said before selling Ossi and GR will raise around £15m - £20m or poss more - that funds increased wages for certain top players. In fact with £80m through the door less £30m of outstanding transfer fees we have another £50m left to fund the squad. Absolutely no need to sell anyone. Instead a bit of investment takes us to a top 6 position (I joked with a mate we'd finish 14th in 1st year back in the prem, 8th year 2 and top 5 year 3!!!). Investing more now is as safe as it will ever get because the current squad will NOT get relegated if kept together - the first time in living memory we have been able to say that - far too much quality.

So any sale or release of MoPo for me is a statement that the shareholders want to cash in and continue to do so whilst aiming at mid table as if that is success. Come on board - let's take this club right to the top - you don't need to buy 11 expensive ego's but create an ethos and keep bringing through quality lads - not selling them to our competitors.
It's not that simple. Keeping the players we have means massively increasing our wage bill and strengthening the team. They are saying they would all like to stay here - players and management - but we have to pay the going rate for that to happen and show ambition on pushing forward. Therefore the status quo isn't an option - we push on or we slip back but staying still isn't a choice.

I'm sure the only shareholder we have isn't after dividends, it's whether she is prepared to stump up a lot more cash for the club to spend. If she wanted to take money out, the club would repay loans or do a share buy back neither of which would incur her with any tax whereas dividends would.
[quote][p][bold]St Forlife[/bold] wrote: I have been reading a lot of this and for me it's quite simple. We are comfortably a top half prem team as it stands. Selling AL and or LS etc for say £70m or so does not make much sense in my book. Without them we are likely to be a bottom half prem team and in the bottom half with 5 or 6 games to go it's pretty much any 3 from 10 for the drop. Such a risk does not make any sense whatsoever as the costs of relegation are ... well not going there. Consequently, the only reason to sell will be to create profit in a trading year and for dividend payments to shareholders - in other words sell them to trouser profits. If that happens then that sends a terrible message to the fan base and a statement of future ambition. Forget the 'they had to go for better offers" etc - they are under contract. On the other hand - yes as said before selling Ossi and GR will raise around £15m - £20m or poss more - that funds increased wages for certain top players. In fact with £80m through the door less £30m of outstanding transfer fees we have another £50m left to fund the squad. Absolutely no need to sell anyone. Instead a bit of investment takes us to a top 6 position (I joked with a mate we'd finish 14th in 1st year back in the prem, 8th year 2 and top 5 year 3!!!). Investing more now is as safe as it will ever get because the current squad will NOT get relegated if kept together - the first time in living memory we have been able to say that - far too much quality. So any sale or release of MoPo for me is a statement that the shareholders want to cash in and continue to do so whilst aiming at mid table as if that is success. Come on board - let's take this club right to the top - you don't need to buy 11 expensive ego's but create an ethos and keep bringing through quality lads - not selling them to our competitors.[/p][/quote]It's not that simple. Keeping the players we have means massively increasing our wage bill and strengthening the team. They are saying they would all like to stay here - players and management - but we have to pay the going rate for that to happen and show ambition on pushing forward. Therefore the status quo isn't an option - we push on or we slip back but staying still isn't a choice. I'm sure the only shareholder we have isn't after dividends, it's whether she is prepared to stump up a lot more cash for the club to spend. If she wanted to take money out, the club would repay loans or do a share buy back neither of which would incur her with any tax whereas dividends would. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 2

4:12pm Wed 30 Apr 14

SaintinCanada says...

Has it not occurred to anyody that this current board has only just recently convened and is probably still establishing itself, and learning the finer details. With the team already guaranteed to finish in 8th place in the league at the end of the season, it is a perfect opportunity to remain silent on all fronts in order to finesse the right plan to move forwards.

I think that many of us on here will be pleasantly surprised at the outcome.
Has it not occurred to anyody that this current board has only just recently convened and is probably still establishing itself, and learning the finer details. With the team already guaranteed to finish in 8th place in the league at the end of the season, it is a perfect opportunity to remain silent on all fronts in order to finesse the right plan to move forwards. I think that many of us on here will be pleasantly surprised at the outcome. SaintinCanada
  • Score: 7

4:23pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Dave Juson says...

I have it on good authority that the rumour and speculation on this and associated subjects is going to get pretty heated in the coming days. No matter what statements are made by the Club.
You heard it from me first.
I have it on good authority that the rumour and speculation on this and associated subjects is going to get pretty heated in the coming days. No matter what statements are made by the Club. You heard it from me first. Dave Juson
  • Score: 0

4:29pm Wed 30 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Les Reed obviously made his surprise statement last week in an exasperated attempt to dampen these swirling rumours. He must be even more exasperated now as he was not only ignored by the media, but the rumour mill has just switched up a gear.

He may have to appear again methinks in order to deny the strong rumour that he is going to appear again.
The trouble is Les Reed is not the man the media want to quote. All the quotes in the world from Les Reed don't carry any weight.
They carry a bit more weight than yours do though.
What I meant Ospers, if you could read between the lines was that any statement that doesn't come from the top man, i.e.Ralph K has no weight or substance and is not worth publishing in a national newspaper.
The trouble is so many of you are reading between the lines and are not reading what is actually being said, and then proceed to make all sorts of ridiculous comments that have absolutely no basis in fact but are just the sum of your own fears. Thus causing angst and distress among those that don't know any better.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Les Reed obviously made his surprise statement last week in an exasperated attempt to dampen these swirling rumours. He must be even more exasperated now as he was not only ignored by the media, but the rumour mill has just switched up a gear. He may have to appear again methinks in order to deny the strong rumour that he is going to appear again.[/p][/quote]The trouble is Les Reed is not the man the media want to quote. All the quotes in the world from Les Reed don't carry any weight.[/p][/quote]They carry a bit more weight than yours do though.[/p][/quote]What I meant Ospers, if you could read between the lines was that any statement that doesn't come from the top man, i.e.Ralph K has no weight or substance and is not worth publishing in a national newspaper.[/p][/quote]The trouble is so many of you are reading between the lines and are not reading what is actually being said, and then proceed to make all sorts of ridiculous comments that have absolutely no basis in fact but are just the sum of your own fears. Thus causing angst and distress among those that don't know any better. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

4:30pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Buddy SFC says...

SaintinCanada wrote:
Has it not occurred to anyody that this current board has only just recently convened and is probably still establishing itself, and learning the finer details. With the team already guaranteed to finish in 8th place in the league at the end of the season, it is a perfect opportunity to remain silent on all fronts in order to finesse the right plan to move forwards.

I think that many of us on here will be pleasantly surprised at the outcome.
Spot on ..............
[quote][p][bold]SaintinCanada[/bold] wrote: Has it not occurred to anyody that this current board has only just recently convened and is probably still establishing itself, and learning the finer details. With the team already guaranteed to finish in 8th place in the league at the end of the season, it is a perfect opportunity to remain silent on all fronts in order to finesse the right plan to move forwards. I think that many of us on here will be pleasantly surprised at the outcome.[/p][/quote]Spot on .............. Buddy SFC
  • Score: 2

4:30pm Wed 30 Apr 14

BracknellSaint says...

Dave Juson wrote:
I have it on good authority that the rumour and speculation on this and associated subjects is going to get pretty heated in the coming days. No matter what statements are made by the Club.
You heard it from me first.
Does that mean that we will be hearing alot of unfounded filth, as so far?
Or do you know something that we don't? Is something happening?
[quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: I have it on good authority that the rumour and speculation on this and associated subjects is going to get pretty heated in the coming days. No matter what statements are made by the Club. You heard it from me first.[/p][/quote]Does that mean that we will be hearing alot of unfounded filth, as so far? Or do you know something that we don't? Is something happening? BracknellSaint
  • Score: 0

4:33pm Wed 30 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Dave Juson wrote:
I have it on good authority that the rumour and speculation on this and associated subjects is going to get pretty heated in the coming days. No matter what statements are made by the Club.
You heard it from me first.
No, I have heard it several times already, the only thing that will take a pounding is the truth. For that we will have to wait a bit longer methinks.
[quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: I have it on good authority that the rumour and speculation on this and associated subjects is going to get pretty heated in the coming days. No matter what statements are made by the Club. You heard it from me first.[/p][/quote]No, I have heard it several times already, the only thing that will take a pounding is the truth. For that we will have to wait a bit longer methinks. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

4:42pm Wed 30 Apr 14

george chivers says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Les Reed obviously made his surprise statement last week in an exasperated attempt to dampen these swirling rumours. He must be even more exasperated now as he was not only ignored by the media, but the rumour mill has just switched up a gear.

He may have to appear again methinks in order to deny the strong rumour that he is going to appear again.
The trouble is Les Reed is not the man the media want to quote. All the quotes in the world from Les Reed don't carry any weight.
They carry a bit more weight than yours do though.
What I meant Ospers, if you could read between the lines was that any statement that doesn't come from the top man, i.e.Ralph K has no weight or substance and is not worth publishing in a national newspaper.
The trouble is so many of you are reading between the lines and are not reading what is actually being said, and then proceed to make all sorts of ridiculous comments that have absolutely no basis in fact but are just the sum of your own fears. Thus causing angst and distress among those that don't know any better.
Rubbish! Its quite obvious Les Reed's comments weren't published nationally because he is not the MD/CEO. And that is why the club got him to make the statement, so Kreuger couldn't be held responsible for it.

The statement from Reed just bought some time while the background stuff carries on. When there is a proper statement to be made no doubt Kreguer will do it, or KL or both jointly. It won't come from Reed.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Les Reed obviously made his surprise statement last week in an exasperated attempt to dampen these swirling rumours. He must be even more exasperated now as he was not only ignored by the media, but the rumour mill has just switched up a gear. He may have to appear again methinks in order to deny the strong rumour that he is going to appear again.[/p][/quote]The trouble is Les Reed is not the man the media want to quote. All the quotes in the world from Les Reed don't carry any weight.[/p][/quote]They carry a bit more weight than yours do though.[/p][/quote]What I meant Ospers, if you could read between the lines was that any statement that doesn't come from the top man, i.e.Ralph K has no weight or substance and is not worth publishing in a national newspaper.[/p][/quote]The trouble is so many of you are reading between the lines and are not reading what is actually being said, and then proceed to make all sorts of ridiculous comments that have absolutely no basis in fact but are just the sum of your own fears. Thus causing angst and distress among those that don't know any better.[/p][/quote]Rubbish! Its quite obvious Les Reed's comments weren't published nationally because he is not the MD/CEO. And that is why the club got him to make the statement, so Kreuger couldn't be held responsible for it. The statement from Reed just bought some time while the background stuff carries on. When there is a proper statement to be made no doubt Kreguer will do it, or KL or both jointly. It won't come from Reed. george chivers
  • Score: -3

4:53pm Wed 30 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Les Reed obviously made his surprise statement last week in an exasperated attempt to dampen these swirling rumours. He must be even more exasperated now as he was not only ignored by the media, but the rumour mill has just switched up a gear.

He may have to appear again methinks in order to deny the strong rumour that he is going to appear again.
The trouble is Les Reed is not the man the media want to quote. All the quotes in the world from Les Reed don't carry any weight.
They carry a bit more weight than yours do though.
What I meant Ospers, if you could read between the lines was that any statement that doesn't come from the top man, i.e.Ralph K has no weight or substance and is not worth publishing in a national newspaper.
The trouble is so many of you are reading between the lines and are not reading what is actually being said, and then proceed to make all sorts of ridiculous comments that have absolutely no basis in fact but are just the sum of your own fears. Thus causing angst and distress among those that don't know any better.
Rubbish! Its quite obvious Les Reed's comments weren't published nationally because he is not the MD/CEO. And that is why the club got him to make the statement, so Kreuger couldn't be held responsible for it.

The statement from Reed just bought some time while the background stuff carries on. When there is a proper statement to be made no doubt Kreguer will do it, or KL or both jointly. It won't come from Reed.
Obvious? Not to me.
After the game last week RK answered a few questions. a rough precis read:- Courtesy of SaintBobby on SaintsWeb

Q: Will we keep hold of our best players this summer?

A: That's our intention. We want to keep together - and improve - the "product" you saw out there on the field today and we are confident we can do so. Of course, you can't make absolute promises in sports. It would be easy for me to list our best players and promise you now that none of them will ever leave. I would get a big cheer and a round of applause. But I would rather come back here in six months time and look you in the eye, having achieved something rather than just promised something. You should all watch Les Reed's statement at the press conference. Les Reed has a great footballing brain and he set out our strategy very well. He works very closely with Mauricio on a day-to-day basis.

RK has his trust in Les Reed, shouldn't we respect that too?
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Les Reed obviously made his surprise statement last week in an exasperated attempt to dampen these swirling rumours. He must be even more exasperated now as he was not only ignored by the media, but the rumour mill has just switched up a gear. He may have to appear again methinks in order to deny the strong rumour that he is going to appear again.[/p][/quote]The trouble is Les Reed is not the man the media want to quote. All the quotes in the world from Les Reed don't carry any weight.[/p][/quote]They carry a bit more weight than yours do though.[/p][/quote]What I meant Ospers, if you could read between the lines was that any statement that doesn't come from the top man, i.e.Ralph K has no weight or substance and is not worth publishing in a national newspaper.[/p][/quote]The trouble is so many of you are reading between the lines and are not reading what is actually being said, and then proceed to make all sorts of ridiculous comments that have absolutely no basis in fact but are just the sum of your own fears. Thus causing angst and distress among those that don't know any better.[/p][/quote]Rubbish! Its quite obvious Les Reed's comments weren't published nationally because he is not the MD/CEO. And that is why the club got him to make the statement, so Kreuger couldn't be held responsible for it. The statement from Reed just bought some time while the background stuff carries on. When there is a proper statement to be made no doubt Kreguer will do it, or KL or both jointly. It won't come from Reed.[/p][/quote]Obvious? Not to me. After the game last week RK answered a few questions. a rough precis read:- Courtesy of SaintBobby on SaintsWeb Q: Will we keep hold of our best players this summer? A: That's our intention. We want to keep together - and improve - the "product" you saw out there on the field today and we are confident we can do so. Of course, you can't make absolute promises in sports. It would be easy for me to list our best players and promise you now that none of them will ever leave. I would get a big cheer and a round of applause. But I would rather come back here in six months time and look you in the eye, having achieved something rather than just promised something. You should all watch Les Reed's statement at the press conference. Les Reed has a great footballing brain and he set out our strategy very well. He works very closely with Mauricio on a day-to-day basis. RK has his trust in Les Reed, shouldn't we respect that too? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

5:29pm Wed 30 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Les Reed obviously made his surprise statement last week in an exasperated attempt to dampen these swirling rumours. He must be even more exasperated now as he was not only ignored by the media, but the rumour mill has just switched up a gear.

He may have to appear again methinks in order to deny the strong rumour that he is going to appear again.
The trouble is Les Reed is not the man the media want to quote. All the quotes in the world from Les Reed don't carry any weight.
They carry a bit more weight than yours do though.
What I meant Ospers, if you could read between the lines was that any statement that doesn't come from the top man, i.e.Ralph K has no weight or substance and is not worth publishing in a national newspaper.
The trouble is so many of you are reading between the lines and are not reading what is actually being said, and then proceed to make all sorts of ridiculous comments that have absolutely no basis in fact but are just the sum of your own fears. Thus causing angst and distress among those that don't know any better.
Rubbish! Its quite obvious Les Reed's comments weren't published nationally because he is not the MD/CEO. And that is why the club got him to make the statement, so Kreuger couldn't be held responsible for it.

The statement from Reed just bought some time while the background stuff carries on. When there is a proper statement to be made no doubt Kreguer will do it, or KL or both jointly. It won't come from Reed.
George you really do try to make everything `fit in` to your conspiracy theory don't you.
les reeds statement wasn't published because he isn't chairman? carp! it wasn't published because it didn't fit in with the media and their constant stories selling our players, if they mentioned the statement it would put an end to their never ending rumours. stories selling players can go on for days and weeks yet the statement is a full stop, one day story and that's it!
who do you think will brief RK and KL over contract negotiations and transfer targets? they get all their info from les reed who as director of football has control over those dealings. MP talks to LR about transfer policies, ins and outs, contracts etc. les then goes back to the chairman/board with a report and they make executive decisions as a group.
according to your `no one will listen to anything coming out of the club unless its from the very top` theory the press wont print stories from MP or the players either then?
as I said the club got les to make the statement because he is in charge of the content of the statement. do you not believe the last financial report the club published? that didn't come from RK or KL it came from the department in charge of finance and would have been rubber stamped by the board. that report was published in the media, so your theory falls down flat there as well.

believe what you want George, no ones going to stop you or even convince you otherwise, but you really should stop looking for conspiracies where non exist!
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Les Reed obviously made his surprise statement last week in an exasperated attempt to dampen these swirling rumours. He must be even more exasperated now as he was not only ignored by the media, but the rumour mill has just switched up a gear. He may have to appear again methinks in order to deny the strong rumour that he is going to appear again.[/p][/quote]The trouble is Les Reed is not the man the media want to quote. All the quotes in the world from Les Reed don't carry any weight.[/p][/quote]They carry a bit more weight than yours do though.[/p][/quote]What I meant Ospers, if you could read between the lines was that any statement that doesn't come from the top man, i.e.Ralph K has no weight or substance and is not worth publishing in a national newspaper.[/p][/quote]The trouble is so many of you are reading between the lines and are not reading what is actually being said, and then proceed to make all sorts of ridiculous comments that have absolutely no basis in fact but are just the sum of your own fears. Thus causing angst and distress among those that don't know any better.[/p][/quote]Rubbish! Its quite obvious Les Reed's comments weren't published nationally because he is not the MD/CEO. And that is why the club got him to make the statement, so Kreuger couldn't be held responsible for it. The statement from Reed just bought some time while the background stuff carries on. When there is a proper statement to be made no doubt Kreguer will do it, or KL or both jointly. It won't come from Reed.[/p][/quote]George you really do try to make everything `fit in` to your conspiracy theory don't you. les reeds statement wasn't published because he isn't chairman? carp! it wasn't published because it didn't fit in with the media and their constant stories selling our players, if they mentioned the statement it would put an end to their never ending rumours. stories selling players can go on for days and weeks yet the statement is a full stop, one day story and that's it! who do you think will brief RK and KL over contract negotiations and transfer targets? they get all their info from les reed who as director of football has control over those dealings. MP talks to LR about transfer policies, ins and outs, contracts etc. les then goes back to the chairman/board with a report and they make executive decisions as a group. according to your `no one will listen to anything coming out of the club unless its from the very top` theory the press wont print stories from MP or the players either then? as I said the club got les to make the statement because he is in charge of the content of the statement. do you not believe the last financial report the club published? that didn't come from RK or KL it came from the department in charge of finance and would have been rubber stamped by the board. that report was published in the media, so your theory falls down flat there as well. believe what you want George, no ones going to stop you or even convince you otherwise, but you really should stop looking for conspiracies where non exist! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 5

5:31pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

I have said Adam 40 Mill and Luke go for £40 and crap your Pants!
I have said Adam 40 Mill and Luke go for £40 and crap your Pants! Fatty x Ford Worker
  • Score: -5

5:34pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
I have said Adam 40 Mill and Luke go for £40 and crap your Pants!
I should of sent more Dosh for Luke so sorry its £40 Milion for Him as Well!
[quote][p][bold]Fatty x Ford Worker[/bold] wrote: I have said Adam 40 Mill and Luke go for £40 and crap your Pants![/p][/quote]I should of sent more Dosh for Luke so sorry its £40 Milion for Him as Well! Fatty x Ford Worker
  • Score: -1

6:02pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Dave Juson says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
I have it on good authority that the rumour and speculation on this and associated subjects is going to get pretty heated in the coming days. No matter what statements are made by the Club.
You heard it from me first.
No, I have heard it several times already, the only thing that will take a pounding is the truth. For that we will have to wait a bit longer methinks.
Sorry Osprey Saint, what you have heard several times before are the previous rumours and speculations which, while they may seem to resemble the current outbreak of rumour and speculation in every respect, were merely precursors of the present rumour and speculation.
The truth is already out there of course. That is not to say that it is an absolute truth; or even a conditional truth; and it almost certainly isn’t the ultimate truth; or even the penultimate truth; but it is a truth nonetheless.
The rest is rumour and speculation and, let’s face it, even more pointless than rubbish I have just posted above.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: I have it on good authority that the rumour and speculation on this and associated subjects is going to get pretty heated in the coming days. No matter what statements are made by the Club. You heard it from me first.[/p][/quote]No, I have heard it several times already, the only thing that will take a pounding is the truth. For that we will have to wait a bit longer methinks.[/p][/quote]Sorry Osprey Saint, what you have heard several times before are the previous rumours and speculations which, while they may seem to resemble the current outbreak of rumour and speculation in every respect, were merely precursors of the present rumour and speculation. The truth is already out there of course. That is not to say that it is an absolute truth; or even a conditional truth; and it almost certainly isn’t the ultimate truth; or even the penultimate truth; but it is a truth nonetheless. The rest is rumour and speculation and, let’s face it, even more pointless than rubbish I have just posted above. Dave Juson
  • Score: 0

6:04pm Wed 30 Apr 14

saint phil says...

ITS GREAT TO SEE LE GOD SAT WERE HE BELONGS.
ITS GREAT TO SEE LE GOD SAT WERE HE BELONGS. saint phil
  • Score: 5

6:10pm Wed 30 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Dave Juson wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
I have it on good authority that the rumour and speculation on this and associated subjects is going to get pretty heated in the coming days. No matter what statements are made by the Club.
You heard it from me first.
No, I have heard it several times already, the only thing that will take a pounding is the truth. For that we will have to wait a bit longer methinks.
Sorry Osprey Saint, what you have heard several times before are the previous rumours and speculations which, while they may seem to resemble the current outbreak of rumour and speculation in every respect, were merely precursors of the present rumour and speculation.
The truth is already out there of course. That is not to say that it is an absolute truth; or even a conditional truth; and it almost certainly isn’t the ultimate truth; or even the penultimate truth; but it is a truth nonetheless.
The rest is rumour and speculation and, let’s face it, even more pointless than rubbish I have just posted above.
....ain't that the truth?
[quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: I have it on good authority that the rumour and speculation on this and associated subjects is going to get pretty heated in the coming days. No matter what statements are made by the Club. You heard it from me first.[/p][/quote]No, I have heard it several times already, the only thing that will take a pounding is the truth. For that we will have to wait a bit longer methinks.[/p][/quote]Sorry Osprey Saint, what you have heard several times before are the previous rumours and speculations which, while they may seem to resemble the current outbreak of rumour and speculation in every respect, were merely precursors of the present rumour and speculation. The truth is already out there of course. That is not to say that it is an absolute truth; or even a conditional truth; and it almost certainly isn’t the ultimate truth; or even the penultimate truth; but it is a truth nonetheless. The rest is rumour and speculation and, let’s face it, even more pointless than rubbish I have just posted above.[/p][/quote]....ain't that the truth? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -3

6:15pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Anticipation = “Oh the places you'll go! There is fun to be done! There are points to be scored. There are games to be won. And the magical things you can do with that ball will make you the winning-est winner of all.”
― Dr. Seuss, Oh, The Places You’ll Go!
One of my favourite books, Ospers. The best lines are near the end:

'Just never forget to be dexterous and deft.
And never mix up your right foot with your left.
And will you succeed?
Yes! You will, indeed!
98 and three quarters percent guaranteed.'

Of course, Adam NEVER mixes his right foot and left foot up and, if he stays, that percentage figure will rise to 99 and seven eighths.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Anticipation = “Oh the places you'll go! There is fun to be done! There are points to be scored. There are games to be won. And the magical things you can do with that ball will make you the winning-est winner of all.” ― Dr. Seuss, Oh, The Places You’ll Go![/p][/quote]One of my favourite books, Ospers. The best lines are near the end: 'Just never forget to be dexterous and deft. And never mix up your right foot with your left. And will you succeed? Yes! You will, indeed! 98 and three quarters percent guaranteed.' Of course, Adam NEVER mixes his right foot and left foot up and, if he stays, that percentage figure will rise to 99 and seven eighths. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 1

6:37pm Wed 30 Apr 14

slugger says...

Correct me if I'm wrong , but doesn't Adam have 4 years left on his contract (that he obviously signed) .............. Why should the board worry about any bids ? ........ He's our player , end of !
Correct me if I'm wrong , but doesn't Adam have 4 years left on his contract (that he obviously signed) .............. Why should the board worry about any bids ? ........ He's our player , end of ! slugger
  • Score: 8

7:44pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Freddie Flowerpot says...

saint phil wrote:
ITS GREAT TO SEE LE GOD SAT WERE HE BELONGS.
Are we still talking about Carveries?
[quote][p][bold]saint phil[/bold] wrote: ITS GREAT TO SEE LE GOD SAT WERE HE BELONGS.[/p][/quote]Are we still talking about Carveries? Freddie Flowerpot
  • Score: -2

8:24pm Wed 30 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Chelsea 1 up Torres.
Chelsea 1 up Torres. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -3

8:32pm Wed 30 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

1 1 now Atletico with the away goal advantage. Looking good in their red and white stripes.
1 1 now Atletico with the away goal advantage. Looking good in their red and white stripes. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 4

9:03pm Wed 30 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

2 1 Atletico penalty.
2 1 Atletico penalty. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

9:14pm Wed 30 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

3 1 Atletico game over!
3 1 Atletico game over! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

9:27pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Clever Dick says...

slugger wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong , but doesn't Adam have 4 years left on his contract (that he obviously signed) .............. Why should the board worry about any bids ? ........ He's our player , end of !
Yes agree. Nobody forced him to sign it and if the reported £35k a week is correct he may just have to struggle by on the £7mil he will earn in that time. Realistically he would be more likely to get a move in two years time when his transfer fee would start to fall. Meanwhile we should make it clear to him and everybody else that he is going nowhere at the present.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong , but doesn't Adam have 4 years left on his contract (that he obviously signed) .............. Why should the board worry about any bids ? ........ He's our player , end of ![/p][/quote]Yes agree. Nobody forced him to sign it and if the reported £35k a week is correct he may just have to struggle by on the £7mil he will earn in that time. Realistically he would be more likely to get a move in two years time when his transfer fee would start to fall. Meanwhile we should make it clear to him and everybody else that he is going nowhere at the present. Clever Dick
  • Score: 4

9:48pm Wed 30 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

That Champions League Final in Lisbon is going to be a cracker, maybe us one day? If so I predict a riot.
That Champions League Final in Lisbon is going to be a cracker, maybe us one day? If so I predict a riot. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

9:48pm Wed 30 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Clever Dick wrote:
slugger wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong , but doesn't Adam have 4 years left on his contract (that he obviously signed) .............. Why should the board worry about any bids ? ........ He's our player , end of !
Yes agree. Nobody forced him to sign it and if the reported £35k a week is correct he may just have to struggle by on the £7mil he will earn in that time. Realistically he would be more likely to get a move in two years time when his transfer fee would start to fall. Meanwhile we should make it clear to him and everybody else that he is going nowhere at the present.
i know it must be hard to know our only going to get £7mill, I suppose he will have to supplement that income with some endorsements.

anyone who tries to claim that if lalla is offered more money he should take it because a footballers career is short and they have to earn enough to have a secure future should consider if £7mill+ is already enough to have a secure future! oh and don't forget that the £7mill is virtually guaranteed and lalla would have to do something seriously bad to be even in with a chance of being sacked.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong , but doesn't Adam have 4 years left on his contract (that he obviously signed) .............. Why should the board worry about any bids ? ........ He's our player , end of ![/p][/quote]Yes agree. Nobody forced him to sign it and if the reported £35k a week is correct he may just have to struggle by on the £7mil he will earn in that time. Realistically he would be more likely to get a move in two years time when his transfer fee would start to fall. Meanwhile we should make it clear to him and everybody else that he is going nowhere at the present.[/p][/quote]i know it must be hard to know our only going to get £7mill, I suppose he will have to supplement that income with some endorsements. anyone who tries to claim that if lalla is offered more money he should take it because a footballers career is short and they have to earn enough to have a secure future should consider if £7mill+ is already enough to have a secure future! oh and don't forget that the £7mill is virtually guaranteed and lalla would have to do something seriously bad to be even in with a chance of being sacked. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 1

9:53pm Wed 30 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
That Champions League Final in Lisbon is going to be a cracker, maybe us one day? If so I predict a riot.
why not us ospers, if atletico Madrid can reach the final why not us?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: That Champions League Final in Lisbon is going to be a cracker, maybe us one day? If so I predict a riot.[/p][/quote]why not us ospers, if atletico Madrid can reach the final why not us? el caballo santos101
  • Score: 2

9:55pm Wed 30 Apr 14

slugger says...

Clever Dick wrote:
slugger wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong , but doesn't Adam have 4 years left on his contract (that he obviously signed) .............. Why should the board worry about any bids ? ........ He's our player , end of !
Yes agree. Nobody forced him to sign it and if the reported £35k a week is correct he may just have to struggle by on the £7mil he will earn in that time. Realistically he would be more likely to get a move in two years time when his transfer fee would start to fall. Meanwhile we should make it clear to him and everybody else that he is going nowhere at the present.
Exactly that , all of our top players are on long term contracts and we hold the the aces !
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong , but doesn't Adam have 4 years left on his contract (that he obviously signed) .............. Why should the board worry about any bids ? ........ He's our player , end of ![/p][/quote]Yes agree. Nobody forced him to sign it and if the reported £35k a week is correct he may just have to struggle by on the £7mil he will earn in that time. Realistically he would be more likely to get a move in two years time when his transfer fee would start to fall. Meanwhile we should make it clear to him and everybody else that he is going nowhere at the present.[/p][/quote]Exactly that , all of our top players are on long term contracts and we hold the the aces ! slugger
  • Score: 3

10:14pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Clever Dick says...

slugger wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
slugger wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong , but doesn't Adam have 4 years left on his contract (that he obviously signed) .............. Why should the board worry about any bids ? ........ He's our player , end of !
Yes agree. Nobody forced him to sign it and if the reported £35k a week is correct he may just have to struggle by on the £7mil he will earn in that time. Realistically he would be more likely to get a move in two years time when his transfer fee would start to fall. Meanwhile we should make it clear to him and everybody else that he is going nowhere at the present.
Exactly that , all of our top players are on long term contracts and we hold the the aces !
They are already very wealth young men with just two seasons of premiership football behind them. They are probably also earning obscene amounts from endorsements, boot contracts, etc etc. Adam is on record as saying he's at his happiest when he's playing, as I'm sure most players are. So we also hold a trump card there as well. Any silly tantrums and they get fined and don't get to play. It wouldn't be nice to be going down that road but it really is high time that greedy players and even greedier agents get to understand what a contract is. This type of situation is where we may well miss NC. He didn't give a hoot about the way things have been carried out in the past and it would have been very interesting to see how he handled things.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong , but doesn't Adam have 4 years left on his contract (that he obviously signed) .............. Why should the board worry about any bids ? ........ He's our player , end of ![/p][/quote]Yes agree. Nobody forced him to sign it and if the reported £35k a week is correct he may just have to struggle by on the £7mil he will earn in that time. Realistically he would be more likely to get a move in two years time when his transfer fee would start to fall. Meanwhile we should make it clear to him and everybody else that he is going nowhere at the present.[/p][/quote]Exactly that , all of our top players are on long term contracts and we hold the the aces ![/p][/quote]They are already very wealth young men with just two seasons of premiership football behind them. They are probably also earning obscene amounts from endorsements, boot contracts, etc etc. Adam is on record as saying he's at his happiest when he's playing, as I'm sure most players are. So we also hold a trump card there as well. Any silly tantrums and they get fined and don't get to play. It wouldn't be nice to be going down that road but it really is high time that greedy players and even greedier agents get to understand what a contract is. This type of situation is where we may well miss NC. He didn't give a hoot about the way things have been carried out in the past and it would have been very interesting to see how he handled things. Clever Dick
  • Score: 2

10:26pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Freddie Flowerpot says...

Clever Dick wrote:
slugger wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
slugger wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong , but doesn't Adam have 4 years left on his contract (that he obviously signed) .............. Why should the board worry about any bids ? ........ He's our player , end of !
Yes agree. Nobody forced him to sign it and if the reported £35k a week is correct he may just have to struggle by on the £7mil he will earn in that time. Realistically he would be more likely to get a move in two years time when his transfer fee would start to fall. Meanwhile we should make it clear to him and everybody else that he is going nowhere at the present.
Exactly that , all of our top players are on long term contracts and we hold the the aces !
They are already very wealth young men with just two seasons of premiership football behind them. They are probably also earning obscene amounts from endorsements, boot contracts, etc etc. Adam is on record as saying he's at his happiest when he's playing, as I'm sure most players are. So we also hold a trump card there as well. Any silly tantrums and they get fined and don't get to play. It wouldn't be nice to be going down that road but it really is high time that greedy players and even greedier agents get to understand what a contract is. This type of situation is where we may well miss NC. He didn't give a hoot about the way things have been carried out in the past and it would have been very interesting to see how he handled things.
Unfortunately it doesn't work like that anymore, the reason clubs are keen for players to sign long term contracts isn't because it ties the player to the club it helps inflate the players valuation, look what happened after Bale signed an improved deal at Tottenham....

Clubs are more concerned on having any player they want to keep being on short term deals as they could just walk away without any fee being paid, see Vidic at Man Utd.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong , but doesn't Adam have 4 years left on his contract (that he obviously signed) .............. Why should the board worry about any bids ? ........ He's our player , end of ![/p][/quote]Yes agree. Nobody forced him to sign it and if the reported £35k a week is correct he may just have to struggle by on the £7mil he will earn in that time. Realistically he would be more likely to get a move in two years time when his transfer fee would start to fall. Meanwhile we should make it clear to him and everybody else that he is going nowhere at the present.[/p][/quote]Exactly that , all of our top players are on long term contracts and we hold the the aces ![/p][/quote]They are already very wealth young men with just two seasons of premiership football behind them. They are probably also earning obscene amounts from endorsements, boot contracts, etc etc. Adam is on record as saying he's at his happiest when he's playing, as I'm sure most players are. So we also hold a trump card there as well. Any silly tantrums and they get fined and don't get to play. It wouldn't be nice to be going down that road but it really is high time that greedy players and even greedier agents get to understand what a contract is. This type of situation is where we may well miss NC. He didn't give a hoot about the way things have been carried out in the past and it would have been very interesting to see how he handled things.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately it doesn't work like that anymore, the reason clubs are keen for players to sign long term contracts isn't because it ties the player to the club it helps inflate the players valuation, look what happened after Bale signed an improved deal at Tottenham.... Clubs are more concerned on having any player they want to keep being on short term deals as they could just walk away without any fee being paid, see Vidic at Man Utd. Freddie Flowerpot
  • Score: -2

10:40pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Baddesley Bill says...

Freddie Flowerpot wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
slugger wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
slugger wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong , but doesn't Adam have 4 years left on his contract (that he obviously signed) .............. Why should the board worry about any bids ? ........ He's our player , end of !
Yes agree. Nobody forced him to sign it and if the reported £35k a week is correct he may just have to struggle by on the £7mil he will earn in that time. Realistically he would be more likely to get a move in two years time when his transfer fee would start to fall. Meanwhile we should make it clear to him and everybody else that he is going nowhere at the present.
Exactly that , all of our top players are on long term contracts and we hold the the aces !
They are already very wealth young men with just two seasons of premiership football behind them. They are probably also earning obscene amounts from endorsements, boot contracts, etc etc. Adam is on record as saying he's at his happiest when he's playing, as I'm sure most players are. So we also hold a trump card there as well. Any silly tantrums and they get fined and don't get to play. It wouldn't be nice to be going down that road but it really is high time that greedy players and even greedier agents get to understand what a contract is. This type of situation is where we may well miss NC. He didn't give a hoot about the way things have been carried out in the past and it would have been very interesting to see how he handled things.
Unfortunately it doesn't work like that anymore, the reason clubs are keen for players to sign long term contracts isn't because it ties the player to the club it helps inflate the players valuation, look what happened after Bale signed an improved deal at Tottenham....

Clubs are more concerned on having any player they want to keep being on short term deals as they could just walk away without any fee being paid, see Vidic at Man Utd.
That....Freddy Flowerpot (part time wum/skunt?)...is totally correct imo.

The whole issue is in the hands of the board of SFC. Are they going to go for it...or cash in? The simple fact remains that all will be revealed after season's end.

Anything reported in the meantime is simply speculation....and mainly aimed at filling the pages of a back page in order to increase newspaper circulation.
[quote][p][bold]Freddie Flowerpot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong , but doesn't Adam have 4 years left on his contract (that he obviously signed) .............. Why should the board worry about any bids ? ........ He's our player , end of ![/p][/quote]Yes agree. Nobody forced him to sign it and if the reported £35k a week is correct he may just have to struggle by on the £7mil he will earn in that time. Realistically he would be more likely to get a move in two years time when his transfer fee would start to fall. Meanwhile we should make it clear to him and everybody else that he is going nowhere at the present.[/p][/quote]Exactly that , all of our top players are on long term contracts and we hold the the aces ![/p][/quote]They are already very wealth young men with just two seasons of premiership football behind them. They are probably also earning obscene amounts from endorsements, boot contracts, etc etc. Adam is on record as saying he's at his happiest when he's playing, as I'm sure most players are. So we also hold a trump card there as well. Any silly tantrums and they get fined and don't get to play. It wouldn't be nice to be going down that road but it really is high time that greedy players and even greedier agents get to understand what a contract is. This type of situation is where we may well miss NC. He didn't give a hoot about the way things have been carried out in the past and it would have been very interesting to see how he handled things.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately it doesn't work like that anymore, the reason clubs are keen for players to sign long term contracts isn't because it ties the player to the club it helps inflate the players valuation, look what happened after Bale signed an improved deal at Tottenham.... Clubs are more concerned on having any player they want to keep being on short term deals as they could just walk away without any fee being paid, see Vidic at Man Utd.[/p][/quote]That....Freddy Flowerpot (part time wum/skunt?)...is totally correct imo. The whole issue is in the hands of the board of SFC. Are they going to go for it...or cash in? The simple fact remains that all will be revealed after season's end. Anything reported in the meantime is simply speculation....and mainly aimed at filling the pages of a back page in order to increase newspaper circulation. Baddesley Bill
  • Score: 1

12:57am Thu 1 May 14

bris saint says...

sorry?
sorry? bris saint
  • Score: 0

1:27am Thu 1 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

So Roy is worried that not only is spuds Townsend out of the world cup but now walker looks like he might be out as well. Is this the reason he was at SMS again on Saturday? Was he having another look at clyne? He mentioned him before but said he needed to play, well he has been playing and playing well, So could clyne get a call up for Brazil?
I'd like to think that cork could be in with a shout as well but Roy likes cleverly for some unknown reason!
Come on Roy be brave again and pick a few more saints!
So Roy is worried that not only is spuds Townsend out of the world cup but now walker looks like he might be out as well. Is this the reason he was at SMS again on Saturday? Was he having another look at clyne? He mentioned him before but said he needed to play, well he has been playing and playing well, So could clyne get a call up for Brazil? I'd like to think that cork could be in with a shout as well but Roy likes cleverly for some unknown reason! Come on Roy be brave again and pick a few more saints! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 3

7:09am Thu 1 May 14

Rising_Son says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
So Roy is worried that not only is spuds Townsend out of the world cup but now walker looks like he might be out as well. Is this the reason he was at SMS again on Saturday? Was he having another look at clyne? He mentioned him before but said he needed to play, well he has been playing and playing well, So could clyne get a call up for Brazil?
I'd like to think that cork could be in with a shout as well but Roy likes cleverly for some unknown reason!
Come on Roy be brave again and pick a few more saints!
Clyne's a better player than Walker. He should be on the plane.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: So Roy is worried that not only is spuds Townsend out of the world cup but now walker looks like he might be out as well. Is this the reason he was at SMS again on Saturday? Was he having another look at clyne? He mentioned him before but said he needed to play, well he has been playing and playing well, So could clyne get a call up for Brazil? I'd like to think that cork could be in with a shout as well but Roy likes cleverly for some unknown reason! Come on Roy be brave again and pick a few more saints![/p][/quote]Clyne's a better player than Walker. He should be on the plane. Rising_Son
  • Score: 4

7:23am Thu 1 May 14

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

We've had the Cortese era when the sky was the limit in terms of ambition. Now Nicola has gone we don't really know if that same ambition and drive is there. The summer will hopefully tell us, but until then we won't know. I just hope the club sort things out with Poch, Lallana, Shaw and Morgan within a week or two of the season ending. I know it is unsettling me so who knows what the squad are thinking. Obviously, we don't know what they know and the statements they all make are just them being professional about it all, but the fact that players like Adam are saying we'll wait until the end of the season and see what happens suggests that even our captain doesn't really know if that same ambition and drive is still there now that Cortese has gone. Are we not going to reach for the sky any more? If not, how our cloth going to be cut? What sort of club are we? It was hard to believe just how ambitious we had become under Cortese, but after the years of success since he arrived with ML's money many of us did come to believe; even the players. I hope the silence from the club on the future plans and the refusal to be rushed is just the new way of doing things and that we are just as ambitious as before even though I can't help but be nervous about it. What will the summer bring? Come On You Reds!
We've had the Cortese era when the sky was the limit in terms of ambition. Now Nicola has gone we don't really know if that same ambition and drive is there. The summer will hopefully tell us, but until then we won't know. I just hope the club sort things out with Poch, Lallana, Shaw and Morgan within a week or two of the season ending. I know it is unsettling me so who knows what the squad are thinking. Obviously, we don't know what they know and the statements they all make are just them being professional about it all, but the fact that players like Adam are saying we'll wait until the end of the season and see what happens suggests that even our captain doesn't really know if that same ambition and drive is still there now that Cortese has gone. Are we not going to reach for the sky any more? If not, how our cloth going to be cut? What sort of club are we? It was hard to believe just how ambitious we had become under Cortese, but after the years of success since he arrived with ML's money many of us did come to believe; even the players. I hope the silence from the club on the future plans and the refusal to be rushed is just the new way of doing things and that we are just as ambitious as before even though I can't help but be nervous about it. What will the summer bring? Come On You Reds! Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
  • Score: 3

8:08am Thu 1 May 14

george chivers says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Les Reed obviously made his surprise statement last week in an exasperated attempt to dampen these swirling rumours. He must be even more exasperated now as he was not only ignored by the media, but the rumour mill has just switched up a gear.

He may have to appear again methinks in order to deny the strong rumour that he is going to appear again.
The trouble is Les Reed is not the man the media want to quote. All the quotes in the world from Les Reed don't carry any weight.
They carry a bit more weight than yours do though.
What I meant Ospers, if you could read between the lines was that any statement that doesn't come from the top man, i.e.Ralph K has no weight or substance and is not worth publishing in a national newspaper.
The trouble is so many of you are reading between the lines and are not reading what is actually being said, and then proceed to make all sorts of ridiculous comments that have absolutely no basis in fact but are just the sum of your own fears. Thus causing angst and distress among those that don't know any better.
Rubbish! Its quite obvious Les Reed's comments weren't published nationally because he is not the MD/CEO. And that is why the club got him to make the statement, so Kreuger couldn't be held responsible for it.

The statement from Reed just bought some time while the background stuff carries on. When there is a proper statement to be made no doubt Kreguer will do it, or KL or both jointly. It won't come from Reed.
George you really do try to make everything `fit in` to your conspiracy theory don't you.
les reeds statement wasn't published because he isn't chairman? carp! it wasn't published because it didn't fit in with the media and their constant stories selling our players, if they mentioned the statement it would put an end to their never ending rumours. stories selling players can go on for days and weeks yet the statement is a full stop, one day story and that's it!
who do you think will brief RK and KL over contract negotiations and transfer targets? they get all their info from les reed who as director of football has control over those dealings. MP talks to LR about transfer policies, ins and outs, contracts etc. les then goes back to the chairman/board with a report and they make executive decisions as a group.
according to your `no one will listen to anything coming out of the club unless its from the very top` theory the press wont print stories from MP or the players either then?
as I said the club got les to make the statement because he is in charge of the content of the statement. do you not believe the last financial report the club published? that didn't come from RK or KL it came from the department in charge of finance and would have been rubber stamped by the board. that report was published in the media, so your theory falls down flat there as well.

believe what you want George, no ones going to stop you or even convince you otherwise, but you really should stop looking for conspiracies where non exist!
Not conspiracies. Just Politics.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Les Reed obviously made his surprise statement last week in an exasperated attempt to dampen these swirling rumours. He must be even more exasperated now as he was not only ignored by the media, but the rumour mill has just switched up a gear. He may have to appear again methinks in order to deny the strong rumour that he is going to appear again.[/p][/quote]The trouble is Les Reed is not the man the media want to quote. All the quotes in the world from Les Reed don't carry any weight.[/p][/quote]They carry a bit more weight than yours do though.[/p][/quote]What I meant Ospers, if you could read between the lines was that any statement that doesn't come from the top man, i.e.Ralph K has no weight or substance and is not worth publishing in a national newspaper.[/p][/quote]The trouble is so many of you are reading between the lines and are not reading what is actually being said, and then proceed to make all sorts of ridiculous comments that have absolutely no basis in fact but are just the sum of your own fears. Thus causing angst and distress among those that don't know any better.[/p][/quote]Rubbish! Its quite obvious Les Reed's comments weren't published nationally because he is not the MD/CEO. And that is why the club got him to make the statement, so Kreuger couldn't be held responsible for it. The statement from Reed just bought some time while the background stuff carries on. When there is a proper statement to be made no doubt Kreguer will do it, or KL or both jointly. It won't come from Reed.[/p][/quote]George you really do try to make everything `fit in` to your conspiracy theory don't you. les reeds statement wasn't published because he isn't chairman? carp! it wasn't published because it didn't fit in with the media and their constant stories selling our players, if they mentioned the statement it would put an end to their never ending rumours. stories selling players can go on for days and weeks yet the statement is a full stop, one day story and that's it! who do you think will brief RK and KL over contract negotiations and transfer targets? they get all their info from les reed who as director of football has control over those dealings. MP talks to LR about transfer policies, ins and outs, contracts etc. les then goes back to the chairman/board with a report and they make executive decisions as a group. according to your `no one will listen to anything coming out of the club unless its from the very top` theory the press wont print stories from MP or the players either then? as I said the club got les to make the statement because he is in charge of the content of the statement. do you not believe the last financial report the club published? that didn't come from RK or KL it came from the department in charge of finance and would have been rubber stamped by the board. that report was published in the media, so your theory falls down flat there as well. believe what you want George, no ones going to stop you or even convince you otherwise, but you really should stop looking for conspiracies where non exist![/p][/quote]Not conspiracies. Just Politics. george chivers
  • Score: -6

12:01pm Thu 1 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

george chivers wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Les Reed obviously made his surprise statement last week in an exasperated attempt to dampen these swirling rumours. He must be even more exasperated now as he was not only ignored by the media, but the rumour mill has just switched up a gear.

He may have to appear again methinks in order to deny the strong rumour that he is going to appear again.
The trouble is Les Reed is not the man the media want to quote. All the quotes in the world from Les Reed don't carry any weight.
They carry a bit more weight than yours do though.
What I meant Ospers, if you could read between the lines was that any statement that doesn't come from the top man, i.e.Ralph K has no weight or substance and is not worth publishing in a national newspaper.
The trouble is so many of you are reading between the lines and are not reading what is actually being said, and then proceed to make all sorts of ridiculous comments that have absolutely no basis in fact but are just the sum of your own fears. Thus causing angst and distress among those that don't know any better.
Rubbish! Its quite obvious Les Reed's comments weren't published nationally because he is not the MD/CEO. And that is why the club got him to make the statement, so Kreuger couldn't be held responsible for it.

The statement from Reed just bought some time while the background stuff carries on. When there is a proper statement to be made no doubt Kreguer will do it, or KL or both jointly. It won't come from Reed.
George you really do try to make everything `fit in` to your conspiracy theory don't you.
les reeds statement wasn't published because he isn't chairman? carp! it wasn't published because it didn't fit in with the media and their constant stories selling our players, if they mentioned the statement it would put an end to their never ending rumours. stories selling players can go on for days and weeks yet the statement is a full stop, one day story and that's it!
who do you think will brief RK and KL over contract negotiations and transfer targets? they get all their info from les reed who as director of football has control over those dealings. MP talks to LR about transfer policies, ins and outs, contracts etc. les then goes back to the chairman/board with a report and they make executive decisions as a group.
according to your `no one will listen to anything coming out of the club unless its from the very top` theory the press wont print stories from MP or the players either then?
as I said the club got les to make the statement because he is in charge of the content of the statement. do you not believe the last financial report the club published? that didn't come from RK or KL it came from the department in charge of finance and would have been rubber stamped by the board. that report was published in the media, so your theory falls down flat there as well.

believe what you want George, no ones going to stop you or even convince you otherwise, but you really should stop looking for conspiracies where non exist!
Not conspiracies. Just Politics.
....of course Politics, you don't get conspiracies in Politics do you. I don't do Politics, someone will have to explain the vagaries about Manager / Player / Owner / Agent / Transfers and Business Politics as I am completely out of my depth in this respect.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Les Reed obviously made his surprise statement last week in an exasperated attempt to dampen these swirling rumours. He must be even more exasperated now as he was not only ignored by the media, but the rumour mill has just switched up a gear. He may have to appear again methinks in order to deny the strong rumour that he is going to appear again.[/p][/quote]The trouble is Les Reed is not the man the media want to quote. All the quotes in the world from Les Reed don't carry any weight.[/p][/quote]They carry a bit more weight than yours do though.[/p][/quote]What I meant Ospers, if you could read between the lines was that any statement that doesn't come from the top man, i.e.Ralph K has no weight or substance and is not worth publishing in a national newspaper.[/p][/quote]The trouble is so many of you are reading between the lines and are not reading what is actually being said, and then proceed to make all sorts of ridiculous comments that have absolutely no basis in fact but are just the sum of your own fears. Thus causing angst and distress among those that don't know any better.[/p][/quote]Rubbish! Its quite obvious Les Reed's comments weren't published nationally because he is not the MD/CEO. And that is why the club got him to make the statement, so Kreuger couldn't be held responsible for it. The statement from Reed just bought some time while the background stuff carries on. When there is a proper statement to be made no doubt Kreguer will do it, or KL or both jointly. It won't come from Reed.[/p][/quote]George you really do try to make everything `fit in` to your conspiracy theory don't you. les reeds statement wasn't published because he isn't chairman? carp! it wasn't published because it didn't fit in with the media and their constant stories selling our players, if they mentioned the statement it would put an end to their never ending rumours. stories selling players can go on for days and weeks yet the statement is a full stop, one day story and that's it! who do you think will brief RK and KL over contract negotiations and transfer targets? they get all their info from les reed who as director of football has control over those dealings. MP talks to LR about transfer policies, ins and outs, contracts etc. les then goes back to the chairman/board with a report and they make executive decisions as a group. according to your `no one will listen to anything coming out of the club unless its from the very top` theory the press wont print stories from MP or the players either then? as I said the club got les to make the statement because he is in charge of the content of the statement. do you not believe the last financial report the club published? that didn't come from RK or KL it came from the department in charge of finance and would have been rubber stamped by the board. that report was published in the media, so your theory falls down flat there as well. believe what you want George, no ones going to stop you or even convince you otherwise, but you really should stop looking for conspiracies where non exist![/p][/quote]Not conspiracies. Just Politics.[/p][/quote]....of course Politics, you don't get conspiracies in Politics do you. I don't do Politics, someone will have to explain the vagaries about Manager / Player / Owner / Agent / Transfers and Business Politics as I am completely out of my depth in this respect. OSPREYSAINT
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12:26pm Thu 1 May 14

Beer Monster says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
That Champions League Final in Lisbon is going to be a cracker, maybe us one day? If so I predict a riot.
why not us ospers, if atletico Madrid can reach the final why not us?
Too right. I was in Lisbon when Portugal beat Spain in Euro 2004 - The atmosphere was amazing, people everywhere celebrating all night.

Can you imagine (albeit a few years down the line) if we play Pompey in the European Cup final?

Blimey... talk about carnage...
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: That Champions League Final in Lisbon is going to be a cracker, maybe us one day? If so I predict a riot.[/p][/quote]why not us ospers, if atletico Madrid can reach the final why not us?[/p][/quote]Too right. I was in Lisbon when Portugal beat Spain in Euro 2004 - The atmosphere was amazing, people everywhere celebrating all night. Can you imagine (albeit a few years down the line) if we play Pompey in the European Cup final? Blimey... talk about carnage... Beer Monster
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12:55pm Thu 1 May 14

lowe esteem says...

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
We've had the Cortese era when the sky was the limit in terms of ambition. Now Nicola has gone we don't really know if that same ambition and drive is there. The summer will hopefully tell us, but until then we won't know. I just hope the club sort things out with Poch, Lallana, Shaw and Morgan within a week or two of the season ending. I know it is unsettling me so who knows what the squad are thinking. Obviously, we don't know what they know and the statements they all make are just them being professional about it all, but the fact that players like Adam are saying we'll wait until the end of the season and see what happens suggests that even our captain doesn't really know if that same ambition and drive is still there now that Cortese has gone. Are we not going to reach for the sky any more? If not, how our cloth going to be cut? What sort of club are we? It was hard to believe just how ambitious we had become under Cortese, but after the years of success since he arrived with ML's money many of us did come to believe; even the players. I hope the silence from the club on the future plans and the refusal to be rushed is just the new way of doing things and that we are just as ambitious as before even though I can't help but be nervous about it. What will the summer bring? Come On You Reds!
Talk about sycophant. He's gone. Sorry, this is classic reading (too much) between the lines, make it up as you go along and make it more difficult for the current board. Where are your loyalties, with Saints or elsewhere? Stop trying to rewrite history, live in the present, do you not think the CURRENT board already have a difficult enough job, with or without your messiah (who has gone of his own volition) Don't start to fuel the propagandist pap from the detractors and vested interests from outside.
Up the Saints. Long live the Saints.
[quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: We've had the Cortese era when the sky was the limit in terms of ambition. Now Nicola has gone we don't really know if that same ambition and drive is there. The summer will hopefully tell us, but until then we won't know. I just hope the club sort things out with Poch, Lallana, Shaw and Morgan within a week or two of the season ending. I know it is unsettling me so who knows what the squad are thinking. Obviously, we don't know what they know and the statements they all make are just them being professional about it all, but the fact that players like Adam are saying we'll wait until the end of the season and see what happens suggests that even our captain doesn't really know if that same ambition and drive is still there now that Cortese has gone. Are we not going to reach for the sky any more? If not, how our cloth going to be cut? What sort of club are we? It was hard to believe just how ambitious we had become under Cortese, but after the years of success since he arrived with ML's money many of us did come to believe; even the players. I hope the silence from the club on the future plans and the refusal to be rushed is just the new way of doing things and that we are just as ambitious as before even though I can't help but be nervous about it. What will the summer bring? Come On You Reds![/p][/quote]Talk about sycophant. He's gone. Sorry, this is classic reading (too much) between the lines, make it up as you go along and make it more difficult for the current board. Where are your loyalties, with Saints or elsewhere? Stop trying to rewrite history, live in the present, do you not think the CURRENT board already have a difficult enough job, with or without your messiah (who has gone of his own volition) Don't start to fuel the propagandist pap from the detractors and vested interests from outside. Up the Saints. Long live the Saints. lowe esteem
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2:35pm Thu 1 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Good job there wasn't any Politics 38 years ago! They didn't stop us on MAY 1st 1976 did they?
Good job there wasn't any Politics 38 years ago! They didn't stop us on MAY 1st 1976 did they? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

6:53pm Thu 1 May 14

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

lowe esteem wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
We've had the Cortese era when the sky was the limit in terms of ambition. Now Nicola has gone we don't really know if that same ambition and drive is there. The summer will hopefully tell us, but until then we won't know. I just hope the club sort things out with Poch, Lallana, Shaw and Morgan within a week or two of the season ending. I know it is unsettling me so who knows what the squad are thinking. Obviously, we don't know what they know and the statements they all make are just them being professional about it all, but the fact that players like Adam are saying we'll wait until the end of the season and see what happens suggests that even our captain doesn't really know if that same ambition and drive is still there now that Cortese has gone. Are we not going to reach for the sky any more? If not, how our cloth going to be cut? What sort of club are we? It was hard to believe just how ambitious we had become under Cortese, but after the years of success since he arrived with ML's money many of us did come to believe; even the players. I hope the silence from the club on the future plans and the refusal to be rushed is just the new way of doing things and that we are just as ambitious as before even though I can't help but be nervous about it. What will the summer bring? Come On You Reds!
Talk about sycophant. He's gone. Sorry, this is classic reading (too much) between the lines, make it up as you go along and make it more difficult for the current board. Where are your loyalties, with Saints or elsewhere? Stop trying to rewrite history, live in the present, do you not think the CURRENT board already have a difficult enough job, with or without your messiah (who has gone of his own volition) Don't start to fuel the propagandist pap from the detractors and vested interests from outside.
Up the Saints. Long live the Saints.
You wally Lowe. I suggest you actually read my post. In no way was it sycophantic in any way shape or form. Perhaps you don't understand the meaning of the word. As for reading between the lines: well mush, if saying we won't know what is going to happen until the summer is reading between the lines then you are right, but it isn't and you are wrong. Making it up as I go along? Where on earth did that come from? How am I making anything more difficult for the current board? Apart from the fact they probably don't read these posts I am only saying it is unsettling me, wondering what the players are thinking and expressing my hopes for the future. Arse to you mush.
[quote][p][bold]lowe esteem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: We've had the Cortese era when the sky was the limit in terms of ambition. Now Nicola has gone we don't really know if that same ambition and drive is there. The summer will hopefully tell us, but until then we won't know. I just hope the club sort things out with Poch, Lallana, Shaw and Morgan within a week or two of the season ending. I know it is unsettling me so who knows what the squad are thinking. Obviously, we don't know what they know and the statements they all make are just them being professional about it all, but the fact that players like Adam are saying we'll wait until the end of the season and see what happens suggests that even our captain doesn't really know if that same ambition and drive is still there now that Cortese has gone. Are we not going to reach for the sky any more? If not, how our cloth going to be cut? What sort of club are we? It was hard to believe just how ambitious we had become under Cortese, but after the years of success since he arrived with ML's money many of us did come to believe; even the players. I hope the silence from the club on the future plans and the refusal to be rushed is just the new way of doing things and that we are just as ambitious as before even though I can't help but be nervous about it. What will the summer bring? Come On You Reds![/p][/quote]Talk about sycophant. He's gone. Sorry, this is classic reading (too much) between the lines, make it up as you go along and make it more difficult for the current board. Where are your loyalties, with Saints or elsewhere? Stop trying to rewrite history, live in the present, do you not think the CURRENT board already have a difficult enough job, with or without your messiah (who has gone of his own volition) Don't start to fuel the propagandist pap from the detractors and vested interests from outside. Up the Saints. Long live the Saints.[/p][/quote]You wally Lowe. I suggest you actually read my post. In no way was it sycophantic in any way shape or form. Perhaps you don't understand the meaning of the word. As for reading between the lines: well mush, if saying we won't know what is going to happen until the summer is reading between the lines then you are right, but it isn't and you are wrong. Making it up as I go along? Where on earth did that come from? How am I making anything more difficult for the current board? Apart from the fact they probably don't read these posts I am only saying it is unsettling me, wondering what the players are thinking and expressing my hopes for the future. Arse to you mush. Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
  • Score: -1

3:04pm Fri 2 May 14

lowe esteem says...

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
lowe esteem wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
We've had the Cortese era when the sky was the limit in terms of ambition. Now Nicola has gone we don't really know if that same ambition and drive is there. The summer will hopefully tell us, but until then we won't know. I just hope the club sort things out with Poch, Lallana, Shaw and Morgan within a week or two of the season ending. I know it is unsettling me so who knows what the squad are thinking. Obviously, we don't know what they know and the statements they all make are just them being professional about it all, but the fact that players like Adam are saying we'll wait until the end of the season and see what happens suggests that even our captain doesn't really know if that same ambition and drive is still there now that Cortese has gone. Are we not going to reach for the sky any more? If not, how our cloth going to be cut? What sort of club are we? It was hard to believe just how ambitious we had become under Cortese, but after the years of success since he arrived with ML's money many of us did come to believe; even the players. I hope the silence from the club on the future plans and the refusal to be rushed is just the new way of doing things and that we are just as ambitious as before even though I can't help but be nervous about it. What will the summer bring? Come On You Reds!
Talk about sycophant. He's gone. Sorry, this is classic reading (too much) between the lines, make it up as you go along and make it more difficult for the current board. Where are your loyalties, with Saints or elsewhere? Stop trying to rewrite history, live in the present, do you not think the CURRENT board already have a difficult enough job, with or without your messiah (who has gone of his own volition) Don't start to fuel the propagandist pap from the detractors and vested interests from outside.
Up the Saints. Long live the Saints.
You wally Lowe. I suggest you actually read my post. In no way was it sycophantic in any way shape or form. Perhaps you don't understand the meaning of the word. As for reading between the lines: well mush, if saying we won't know what is going to happen until the summer is reading between the lines then you are right, but it isn't and you are wrong. Making it up as I go along? Where on earth did that come from? How am I making anything more difficult for the current board? Apart from the fact they probably don't read these posts I am only saying it is unsettling me, wondering what the players are thinking and expressing my hopes for the future. Arse to you mush.
Rude Boy!
Re-read your post, Les Reed's statement, then my post.
Do you know what Cortese is up to now?
Then follow him, or follow the Saints.
What unsettles you? Gossip?
Who to blame? The players or the board, who will always take the money, or the media, or manipulative forces without?
Don't blame me, and I won't blame you, but do think it through.
[quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lowe esteem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: We've had the Cortese era when the sky was the limit in terms of ambition. Now Nicola has gone we don't really know if that same ambition and drive is there. The summer will hopefully tell us, but until then we won't know. I just hope the club sort things out with Poch, Lallana, Shaw and Morgan within a week or two of the season ending. I know it is unsettling me so who knows what the squad are thinking. Obviously, we don't know what they know and the statements they all make are just them being professional about it all, but the fact that players like Adam are saying we'll wait until the end of the season and see what happens suggests that even our captain doesn't really know if that same ambition and drive is still there now that Cortese has gone. Are we not going to reach for the sky any more? If not, how our cloth going to be cut? What sort of club are we? It was hard to believe just how ambitious we had become under Cortese, but after the years of success since he arrived with ML's money many of us did come to believe; even the players. I hope the silence from the club on the future plans and the refusal to be rushed is just the new way of doing things and that we are just as ambitious as before even though I can't help but be nervous about it. What will the summer bring? Come On You Reds![/p][/quote]Talk about sycophant. He's gone. Sorry, this is classic reading (too much) between the lines, make it up as you go along and make it more difficult for the current board. Where are your loyalties, with Saints or elsewhere? Stop trying to rewrite history, live in the present, do you not think the CURRENT board already have a difficult enough job, with or without your messiah (who has gone of his own volition) Don't start to fuel the propagandist pap from the detractors and vested interests from outside. Up the Saints. Long live the Saints.[/p][/quote]You wally Lowe. I suggest you actually read my post. In no way was it sycophantic in any way shape or form. Perhaps you don't understand the meaning of the word. As for reading between the lines: well mush, if saying we won't know what is going to happen until the summer is reading between the lines then you are right, but it isn't and you are wrong. Making it up as I go along? Where on earth did that come from? How am I making anything more difficult for the current board? Apart from the fact they probably don't read these posts I am only saying it is unsettling me, wondering what the players are thinking and expressing my hopes for the future. Arse to you mush.[/p][/quote]Rude Boy! Re-read your post, Les Reed's statement, then my post. Do you know what Cortese is up to now? Then follow him, or follow the Saints. What unsettles you? Gossip? Who to blame? The players or the board, who will always take the money, or the media, or manipulative forces without? Don't blame me, and I won't blame you, but do think it through. lowe esteem
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