Saints chairman Ralph Krueger won't allow football agents to take advantage of him

Ralph Krueger

Ralph Krueger

First published in Football Basingstoke Gazette: Photograph of the Author by , Senior Sports Reporter

Saints chairman Ralph Krueger says he has no concerns about agents attempting to take advantage of his inexperience in football.

The 54-year-old, who officially began work at St Mary’s last week, heads up the new board of directors assembled by the club’s owner, Katharina Liebherr.

Krueger might not yet be completely familiar with the machinations of football, but is adamant he is well-versed in dealing with similar dynamics elsewhere.

While the Canadian-born German is often simply referred to as a former ice hockey coach, he has a far more rounded background than that.

He spent a number of years working as a general manager in the sport, for Austrian club VEU Feldkirch, dealing with contractual issues, agents, and the like.

He believes, therefore, he is well prepared for the task that lies ahead.

“It’s exactly the same,” said Krueger, whose most high-profile role in sports to date has been as head coach of the Edmonton Oilers, in the National Hockey League, while he also had a long spell in charge of Switzerland’s team.

“I was a GM and manager, coach of an organisation for seven years, and then the (Swiss) national side for 13 years I was the head coach.

“But I also managed, and I had to deal with all of that.

“Running the under-20s, under-18s, under-16s of that country, that’s where the agents were showing up, so I’ve had to deal with that.

“In the National Hockey League it’s exactly the same, so those are areas where I feel really comfortable, and I have no problem with dealing with that part of our reality.

“I’m a realistic optimist that I can deal with it, but I know that it’s not always easy.

“I know that football has its own dynamics, because of the world, and players can have multiple agents, and all of that is clear to me, but I love adversity. I love difficult situations.”

It is not always a simple transition from the North American sports world to football.

John W Henry, principal owner of both Liverpool and the Boston Red Sox, in Major League Baseball, initially spoke of a “culture shock” after taking control at Anfield.

Henry has described football as being “sort of like the wild west”, as he and his Fenway Sports Group organisation tried to get to grips with the influence of agents and player power.

Krueger, who is also a highly-regarded leadership speaker, as well as an active member of the World Economic Forum, will not be navigating his way through football’s waters alone, though.

As well as manager Mauricio Pochettino, there are other experienced heads already in place for him to call on when it comes to areas such as agents and transfer deals, including executive director Les Reed, a member of the football club’s board and an important figure at St Mary’s.

While Krueger concedes that Saints will sometimes need to operate with people whose methods they do not necessarily agree with, he says that they will, if possible, seek to conduct their business with those who are in line with their own values.

He said: “The only thing you always have to ask about any individual is ‘Why are they doing something?’ “There are excellent agents out there in every sport that are doing it for the betterment of the game, for the betterment of the athletes – there are those out there.

“I’m not going to judge anybody that I don’t know, but I just believe that we want to also try and find people to work with, when we have that choice, who are in line with our values and our principles, and they will be rewarded for it.

“So that is what we will strive for, but that will not always be the case.”

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6:42am Wed 19 Mar 14

SiamSaint says...

Very sound advice for all aspects of life!
Very sound advice for all aspects of life! SiamSaint
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7:16am Wed 19 Mar 14

circa 66 saint says...

Nothing to do with this thread but felt the need to put it in writing.
Just woke up and had a dream, no a premonition, no more like a vision , that's it a vision.
Its the last day of the season and Manure are in the last Europa spot all they need is a draw, anyway we trounce them to take their place, good eh!, but wait there's more in the bottom basement Northampton are playing the SKUNTS and need to win to save themselves and send the SKUNTS into oblivion,guess what the SKUNTS lose and are relegated. Riots follow and the away supporters are both locked up.
OK the last bit was made up but the rest is possible and even probable.
COYR.
Nothing to do with this thread but felt the need to put it in writing. Just woke up and had a dream, no a premonition, no more like a vision , that's it a vision. Its the last day of the season and Manure are in the last Europa spot all they need is a draw, anyway we trounce them to take their place, good eh!, but wait there's more in the bottom basement Northampton are playing the SKUNTS and need to win to save themselves and send the SKUNTS into oblivion,guess what the SKUNTS lose and are relegated. Riots follow and the away supporters are both locked up. OK the last bit was made up but the rest is possible and even probable. COYR. circa 66 saint
  • Score: 32

7:59am Wed 19 Mar 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that.

I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people.

However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination.

So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.
Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 23

8:11am Wed 19 Mar 14

Outside of the Box says...

Every Saints fan should listen to this interview with Ralph Krueger on Canadian radio this week. The Club are bringing in a Director of Football, also they have interviews with 3 major sponsors who want to pump prime the Club to the Champions League places (in time). He has his head screwed firmly on.

http://pmd.fan590.co
m/audio_on_demand-3/
Ralph-Krueger-with-T
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Seixeiro--PTS--20140
317-Interview.mp3
Every Saints fan should listen to this interview with Ralph Krueger on Canadian radio this week. The Club are bringing in a Director of Football, also they have interviews with 3 major sponsors who want to pump prime the Club to the Champions League places (in time). He has his head screwed firmly on. http://pmd.fan590.co m/audio_on_demand-3/ Ralph-Krueger-with-T im-Micallef-and-Sid- Seixeiro--PTS--20140 317-Interview.mp3 Outside of the Box
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8:14am Wed 19 Mar 14

Outside of the Box says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that.

I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people.

However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination.

So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.
He sort of spells it out in this radio interview

http://pmd.fan590.co

m/audio_on_demand-3/

Ralph-Krueger-with-T

im-Micallef-and-Sid-

Seixeiro--PTS--20140

317-Interview.mp3
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.[/p][/quote]He sort of spells it out in this radio interview http://pmd.fan590.co m/audio_on_demand-3/ Ralph-Krueger-with-T im-Micallef-and-Sid- Seixeiro--PTS--20140 317-Interview.mp3 Outside of the Box
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8:17am Wed 19 Mar 14

Stroppy_gramps says...

I miss The Don, I quite liked how he just wasn't interested in playing with the media.

But I also like this approach by Freddy, he is clearly well coached on dealing with the media and is certainly an interesting change.
I miss The Don, I quite liked how he just wasn't interested in playing with the media. But I also like this approach by Freddy, he is clearly well coached on dealing with the media and is certainly an interesting change. Stroppy_gramps
  • Score: 12

8:25am Wed 19 Mar 14

saint christopher says...

Interesting, although link above didn't work for me.

Try http://www.sportsnet
.ca/590/prime-time-s
ports/
Interesting, although link above didn't work for me. Try http://www.sportsnet .ca/590/prime-time-s ports/ saint christopher
  • Score: 0

8:29am Wed 19 Mar 14

Rickie&Adz14 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.
Completely agree! One thing that has been repeated over and over is that Krueger is a self proclaimed 'realist'...

Cortese was not! He dared to dream and dare I say it that is the key reason we have stunned the footballing world with our dramatic rise to the (near) top!

Unfortunately, unless Krueger is smarter than I'm giving him credit for, we might be about to see a very solid too 10 team being moulded, funded 'sensibly' by the sale of Shaw and Adz, with no expectation other than to stear clear of the bottom half troubles and perhaps challenge for the last spot in Europe every now and again....

I know this is a very negative way of looking at it...but the fact that Krueger is speaking about sense and being realistic does not suggest we will be challenging for the Champions League spots next year (as we all would have considered under Cortese)....

Peace Out x
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.[/p][/quote]Completely agree! One thing that has been repeated over and over is that Krueger is a self proclaimed 'realist'... Cortese was not! He dared to dream and dare I say it that is the key reason we have stunned the footballing world with our dramatic rise to the (near) top! Unfortunately, unless Krueger is smarter than I'm giving him credit for, we might be about to see a very solid too 10 team being moulded, funded 'sensibly' by the sale of Shaw and Adz, with no expectation other than to stear clear of the bottom half troubles and perhaps challenge for the last spot in Europe every now and again.... I know this is a very negative way of looking at it...but the fact that Krueger is speaking about sense and being realistic does not suggest we will be challenging for the Champions League spots next year (as we all would have considered under Cortese).... Peace Out x Rickie&Adz14
  • Score: 1

8:36am Wed 19 Mar 14

THE12THMAN says...

Correct me if I am wrong but I thought his most highest profile in sport to date was winning a gold medal with the Canadian ice hockey team !
Correct me if I am wrong but I thought his most highest profile in sport to date was winning a gold medal with the Canadian ice hockey team ! THE12THMAN
  • Score: 4

8:55am Wed 19 Mar 14

george chivers says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that.

I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people.

However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination.

So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.
But did Katerina share Cortese's vision? Or did she get rid of him because he was autocratic and secretive and she wanted more of a handle on her money?

Perhaps she wants a very competent manager who operates within budget and has moderate success and that is her vision. Cortese was great in terms of results but he acted like he owned the club but he didn't. She's the boss and she calls the shots, not Cortese or Krueger.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.[/p][/quote]But did Katerina share Cortese's vision? Or did she get rid of him because he was autocratic and secretive and she wanted more of a handle on her money? Perhaps she wants a very competent manager who operates within budget and has moderate success and that is her vision. Cortese was great in terms of results but he acted like he owned the club but he didn't. She's the boss and she calls the shots, not Cortese or Krueger. george chivers
  • Score: 9

9:27am Wed 19 Mar 14

bathsaints says...

I guess only time will tell whether he is a good fit with the club or not, he certainly says the right things. As we head towards the end of the season and a summer break with all it's potential comings and goings I am sure we'll see what kind of vision he has for the team. I see that Poch is yet again being linked with the Spurs job and so we need to get him signed up and commited as well as retaining our best young players. If we can keep the cohesion and ethic going started under Cortese as well as add some more quality here and there I think that would really signal Krueger's intent. It's been a great journey not only just the last few years but for as long as I can remember and hopefully we can push on into a period of increased stability off the field and growth on it....
I guess only time will tell whether he is a good fit with the club or not, he certainly says the right things. As we head towards the end of the season and a summer break with all it's potential comings and goings I am sure we'll see what kind of vision he has for the team. I see that Poch is yet again being linked with the Spurs job and so we need to get him signed up and commited as well as retaining our best young players. If we can keep the cohesion and ethic going started under Cortese as well as add some more quality here and there I think that would really signal Krueger's intent. It's been a great journey not only just the last few years but for as long as I can remember and hopefully we can push on into a period of increased stability off the field and growth on it.... bathsaints
  • Score: 10

9:47am Wed 19 Mar 14

Malcombe says...

I wouldn't of thought Ralph will ever be a Puppet to Katharina and she wouldn't employ idiots, she wanted a Team to work with who know how to generate and control finances and be accountable and she must be content with her final choices. She would of consulted those already in the Club who have experience of running a Football Club for example Les Reed and others who do an excellent job for Southampton FC but there names are synonymous because they get on with there job.

Football is a business and she has to make it her priority to make money which is what business is about. She could of had a poor relationship with Nicola and possibly felt he had too much control and often acted alone without consultation with his Boss, looking at photographs from the past she is nowhere to seen around Nicola at games but recent photos show her with Ralph smiling and constantly talking and enjoying watching her Team.

I believe that Ralph who appears to be an extrovert and intelligent man will be more transparent to reassure the Supporters of all that they should know about Southampton FC and leave the Football side concerning all the Players at the Club to M P his Staff and all those Coaching at the Club, what better way is there to run the Club? Onwards and Upwards is the only way to go and let's hope the new Training ground will be complete for next season and Southampton FC will show a profit each year, good luck to all those at the Club
I wouldn't of thought Ralph will ever be a Puppet to Katharina and she wouldn't employ idiots, she wanted a Team to work with who know how to generate and control finances and be accountable and she must be content with her final choices. She would of consulted those already in the Club who have experience of running a Football Club for example Les Reed and others who do an excellent job for Southampton FC but there names are synonymous because they get on with there job. Football is a business and she has to make it her priority to make money which is what business is about. She could of had a poor relationship with Nicola and possibly felt he had too much control and often acted alone without consultation with his Boss, looking at photographs from the past she is nowhere to seen around Nicola at games but recent photos show her with Ralph smiling and constantly talking and enjoying watching her Team. I believe that Ralph who appears to be an extrovert and intelligent man will be more transparent to reassure the Supporters of all that they should know about Southampton FC and leave the Football side concerning all the Players at the Club to M P his Staff and all those Coaching at the Club, what better way is there to run the Club? Onwards and Upwards is the only way to go and let's hope the new Training ground will be complete for next season and Southampton FC will show a profit each year, good luck to all those at the Club Malcombe
  • Score: 12

10:01am Wed 19 Mar 14

Poole Tom says...

Bearing in mind that we have improved year on year for the last five years it is going to be extremely difficult to continue to do so next year, never mind over the course of the next five years. Furthermore that would have been the case even if Cortese was still at the helm. Realistically I think that the time has come for a period of stabilisation, hopefully in the top half of the Premier League. However we only have to look at the likes of WBA to see how difficult even that task is for clubs of our size and resources. The fact is that with gates of just 30,000, apparently lower commercial income than our competitors and an owner who quite rightly wants the business to operate within it`s means we are highly unlikely to break into the top six, even with our remarkable academy.
Bearing in mind that we have improved year on year for the last five years it is going to be extremely difficult to continue to do so next year, never mind over the course of the next five years. Furthermore that would have been the case even if Cortese was still at the helm. Realistically I think that the time has come for a period of stabilisation, hopefully in the top half of the Premier League. However we only have to look at the likes of WBA to see how difficult even that task is for clubs of our size and resources. The fact is that with gates of just 30,000, apparently lower commercial income than our competitors and an owner who quite rightly wants the business to operate within it`s means we are highly unlikely to break into the top six, even with our remarkable academy. Poole Tom
  • Score: 11

10:06am Wed 19 Mar 14

SiamSaint says...

THE12THMAN wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong but I thought his most highest profile in sport to date was winning a gold medal with the Canadian ice hockey team !
There was a bit more than that... but anyway. it's more than Cortese
[quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: Correct me if I am wrong but I thought his most highest profile in sport to date was winning a gold medal with the Canadian ice hockey team ![/p][/quote]There was a bit more than that... but anyway. it's more than Cortese SiamSaint
  • Score: 3

10:06am Wed 19 Mar 14

Beer Monster says...

circa 66 saint wrote:
Nothing to do with this thread but felt the need to put it in writing.
Just woke up and had a dream, no a premonition, no more like a vision , that's it a vision.
Its the last day of the season and Manure are in the last Europa spot all they need is a draw, anyway we trounce them to take their place, good eh!, but wait there's more in the bottom basement Northampton are playing the SKUNTS and need to win to save themselves and send the SKUNTS into oblivion,guess what the SKUNTS lose and are relegated. Riots follow and the away supporters are both locked up.
OK the last bit was made up but the rest is possible and even probable.
COYR.
I've had the same premonition circa 66 (well, at least the bit about Saints overtaking ManUre on the last day of the season, anyway). I'd like to see MP make his first interview in English by saying before the match that he'd love it it if we smashed them :-)

COYR
[quote][p][bold]circa 66 saint[/bold] wrote: Nothing to do with this thread but felt the need to put it in writing. Just woke up and had a dream, no a premonition, no more like a vision , that's it a vision. Its the last day of the season and Manure are in the last Europa spot all they need is a draw, anyway we trounce them to take their place, good eh!, but wait there's more in the bottom basement Northampton are playing the SKUNTS and need to win to save themselves and send the SKUNTS into oblivion,guess what the SKUNTS lose and are relegated. Riots follow and the away supporters are both locked up. OK the last bit was made up but the rest is possible and even probable. COYR.[/p][/quote]I've had the same premonition circa 66 (well, at least the bit about Saints overtaking ManUre on the last day of the season, anyway). I'd like to see MP make his first interview in English by saying before the match that he'd love it it if we smashed them :-) COYR Beer Monster
  • Score: 9

10:21am Wed 19 Mar 14

Confucious says...

george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that.

I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people.

However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination.

So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.
But did Katerina share Cortese's vision? Or did she get rid of him because he was autocratic and secretive and she wanted more of a handle on her money?

Perhaps she wants a very competent manager who operates within budget and has moderate success and that is her vision. Cortese was great in terms of results but he acted like he owned the club but he didn't. She's the boss and she calls the shots, not Cortese or Krueger.
For all his strengths - and he has many from which we thankfully benefitted - Cortese's weakness was he was building a club which couldn't operate without Cortese.

All his admin staff appeared to be fearfully compliant and of course, his team manager, also announced he would leave the club if Cortese did. Even the public relations team, the purpose of which is to look out, appeared to be more concerned with creating barriers to communication rather than facilitating it.

These things are always fine when things are going well, but when the tide turns, as can always happen, there's a heavy price to pay. Businesses which are run by autocrats often do not see and are not told that problems are coming - and they can prove fatally inflexible or incapable when change is needed. And of course if and when the autocrat does leave then a headless business with weak staff and no successors is left behind.

A good boss needs a vision - but he also needs to build a team and an organisation which can manage very well without him and survive his departure.

I think Nicola did a brilliant job. He helped bring Markus in and he took the club from Div 1 to the Prem in remarkably short order. Indeed he was absolutely the right man with absolutely the right style for a club which was then on its knees, in crisis and in total meltdown.

But once that job was done he needed to adapt and amend his style and sadly, he simply didn't seem able or prepared to do that - and indeed pointedly turned down Katherina's invitation to do so.

Ironically, Katherina, as the owner of the club, is in the perfect and entirely legitimate position to run things autocratically, but instead has clearly chosen to create a good and professional team to do the job. I think that is entirely right.

We'll never know what would have happened if Nicola had stayed - and of course we don't know yet what will happen in future now he's gone. But we can be sure that on here at least there will be a hot debate fuelled as usual by the shining bright light of hindsight.

Meantime, I wish Nicola well and thank him greatly for the good work he did and the pile of happiness he created for us.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.[/p][/quote]But did Katerina share Cortese's vision? Or did she get rid of him because he was autocratic and secretive and she wanted more of a handle on her money? Perhaps she wants a very competent manager who operates within budget and has moderate success and that is her vision. Cortese was great in terms of results but he acted like he owned the club but he didn't. She's the boss and she calls the shots, not Cortese or Krueger.[/p][/quote]For all his strengths - and he has many from which we thankfully benefitted - Cortese's weakness was he was building a club which couldn't operate without Cortese. All his admin staff appeared to be fearfully compliant and of course, his team manager, also announced he would leave the club if Cortese did. Even the public relations team, the purpose of which is to look out, appeared to be more concerned with creating barriers to communication rather than facilitating it. These things are always fine when things are going well, but when the tide turns, as can always happen, there's a heavy price to pay. Businesses which are run by autocrats often do not see and are not told that problems are coming - and they can prove fatally inflexible or incapable when change is needed. And of course if and when the autocrat does leave then a headless business with weak staff and no successors is left behind. A good boss needs a vision - but he also needs to build a team and an organisation which can manage very well without him and survive his departure. I think Nicola did a brilliant job. He helped bring Markus in and he took the club from Div 1 to the Prem in remarkably short order. Indeed he was absolutely the right man with absolutely the right style for a club which was then on its knees, in crisis and in total meltdown. But once that job was done he needed to adapt and amend his style and sadly, he simply didn't seem able or prepared to do that - and indeed pointedly turned down Katherina's invitation to do so. Ironically, Katherina, as the owner of the club, is in the perfect and entirely legitimate position to run things autocratically, but instead has clearly chosen to create a good and professional team to do the job. I think that is entirely right. We'll never know what would have happened if Nicola had stayed - and of course we don't know yet what will happen in future now he's gone. But we can be sure that on here at least there will be a hot debate fuelled as usual by the shining bright light of hindsight. Meantime, I wish Nicola well and thank him greatly for the good work he did and the pile of happiness he created for us. Confucious
  • Score: 40

10:31am Wed 19 Mar 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Outside of the Box wrote:
Every Saints fan should listen to this interview with Ralph Krueger on Canadian radio this week. The Club are bringing in a Director of Football, also they have interviews with 3 major sponsors who want to pump prime the Club to the Champions League places (in time). He has his head screwed firmly on.

http://pmd.fan590.co

m/audio_on_demand-3/

Ralph-Krueger-with-T

im-Micallef-and-Sid-

Seixeiro--PTS--20140

317-Interview.mp3
good post but the club already has a director of football, les Reed. he was on the footballers football show last week on sky where they introduced him with that tittle, and put his name and tittle on screen at various points.
[quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: Every Saints fan should listen to this interview with Ralph Krueger on Canadian radio this week. The Club are bringing in a Director of Football, also they have interviews with 3 major sponsors who want to pump prime the Club to the Champions League places (in time). He has his head screwed firmly on. http://pmd.fan590.co m/audio_on_demand-3/ Ralph-Krueger-with-T im-Micallef-and-Sid- Seixeiro--PTS--20140 317-Interview.mp3[/p][/quote]good post but the club already has a director of football, les Reed. he was on the footballers football show last week on sky where they introduced him with that tittle, and put his name and tittle on screen at various points. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 0

10:41am Wed 19 Mar 14

dockboy says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.
So Krueger was appointed whilst you where away.
What exactly does that mean, do you believe this was done deliberately, just in case you decided to block the appointment with the huge influence you have over the St. Marys faithful.
Get over yourself, I very much doubt if KL cared about your location when Krueger was appointed, nor does anyone else for that matter.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.[/p][/quote]So Krueger was appointed whilst you where away. What exactly does that mean, do you believe this was done deliberately, just in case you decided to block the appointment with the huge influence you have over the St. Marys faithful. Get over yourself, I very much doubt if KL cared about your location when Krueger was appointed, nor does anyone else for that matter. dockboy
  • Score: -8

10:43am Wed 19 Mar 14

Mush On The Beach says...

Poole Tom wrote:
Bearing in mind that we have improved year on year for the last five years it is going to be extremely difficult to continue to do so next year, never mind over the course of the next five years. Furthermore that would have been the case even if Cortese was still at the helm. Realistically I think that the time has come for a period of stabilisation, hopefully in the top half of the Premier League. However we only have to look at the likes of WBA to see how difficult even that task is for clubs of our size and resources. The fact is that with gates of just 30,000, apparently lower commercial income than our competitors and an owner who quite rightly wants the business to operate within it`s means we are highly unlikely to break into the top six, even with our remarkable academy.
I agree with most of your post Tom, though I believe top 6 should be our aspiration for the next step-up and could be achievable. I look at Everton over the last 10 years or so and they have been consistently there or thereabouts and think they are the team we are most likely to be able to oust.

Moysey bless him did a good job for them on a limited budget. What they have done which maybe we need to consider is a shrewd top loan signing or two to complement what we already have. I don’t agree with same-league loans in principle but others are doing it so it’s worth considering.
I’m fairly positive about the vibe coming from St Marys executive, if Mauricio is signed up to a long-term contract then I see it as a statement of intent for a top 6 future becoming a reality.
[quote][p][bold]Poole Tom[/bold] wrote: Bearing in mind that we have improved year on year for the last five years it is going to be extremely difficult to continue to do so next year, never mind over the course of the next five years. Furthermore that would have been the case even if Cortese was still at the helm. Realistically I think that the time has come for a period of stabilisation, hopefully in the top half of the Premier League. However we only have to look at the likes of WBA to see how difficult even that task is for clubs of our size and resources. The fact is that with gates of just 30,000, apparently lower commercial income than our competitors and an owner who quite rightly wants the business to operate within it`s means we are highly unlikely to break into the top six, even with our remarkable academy.[/p][/quote]I agree with most of your post Tom, though I believe top 6 should be our aspiration for the next step-up and could be achievable. I look at Everton over the last 10 years or so and they have been consistently there or thereabouts and think they are the team we are most likely to be able to oust. Moysey bless him did a good job for them on a limited budget. What they have done which maybe we need to consider is a shrewd top loan signing or two to complement what we already have. I don’t agree with same-league loans in principle but others are doing it so it’s worth considering. I’m fairly positive about the vibe coming from St Marys executive, if Mauricio is signed up to a long-term contract then I see it as a statement of intent for a top 6 future becoming a reality. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 7

10:48am Wed 19 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

dockboy wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.
So Krueger was appointed whilst you where away.
What exactly does that mean, do you believe this was done deliberately, just in case you decided to block the appointment with the huge influence you have over the St. Marys faithful.
Get over yourself, I very much doubt if KL cared about your location when Krueger was appointed, nor does anyone else for that matter.
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[quote][p][bold]dockboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.[/p][/quote]So Krueger was appointed whilst you where away. What exactly does that mean, do you believe this was done deliberately, just in case you decided to block the appointment with the huge influence you have over the St. Marys faithful. Get over yourself, I very much doubt if KL cared about your location when Krueger was appointed, nor does anyone else for that matter.[/p][/quote]? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

10:55am Wed 19 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

saint christopher wrote:
Interesting, although link above didn't work for me.

Try http://www.sportsnet

.ca/590/prime-time-s

ports/
Did you remember to close up all ofthe spaces?
[quote][p][bold]saint christopher[/bold] wrote: Interesting, although link above didn't work for me. Try http://www.sportsnet .ca/590/prime-time-s ports/[/p][/quote]Did you remember to close up all ofthe spaces? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -2

10:59am Wed 19 Mar 14

St Mark says...

dockboy wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.
So Krueger was appointed whilst you where away.
What exactly does that mean, do you believe this was done deliberately, just in case you decided to block the appointment with the huge influence you have over the St. Marys faithful.
Get over yourself, I very much doubt if KL cared about your location when Krueger was appointed, nor does anyone else for that matter.
Is that Portsmouth Dock, boy?

Could you go and sit in a bush and calm down please?
[quote][p][bold]dockboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.[/p][/quote]So Krueger was appointed whilst you where away. What exactly does that mean, do you believe this was done deliberately, just in case you decided to block the appointment with the huge influence you have over the St. Marys faithful. Get over yourself, I very much doubt if KL cared about your location when Krueger was appointed, nor does anyone else for that matter.[/p][/quote]Is that Portsmouth Dock, boy? Could you go and sit in a bush and calm down please? St Mark
  • Score: 1

11:04am Wed 19 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that.

I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people.

However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination.

So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.
But did Katerina share Cortese's vision? Or did she get rid of him because he was autocratic and secretive and she wanted more of a handle on her money?

Perhaps she wants a very competent manager who operates within budget and has moderate success and that is her vision. Cortese was great in terms of results but he acted like he owned the club but he didn't. She's the boss and she calls the shots, not Cortese or Krueger.
Do we actually know that she "got rid of him"? I was under the impression that he wasn't happy that others would be interfering with his work, so found it unacceptable and left of his own volition. However like anyone else, it is an opinion formed from what I read and heard, it is uninformed comment because I have no actual proof either way. If you have the inside story let us hear it in it's full gory detail, I am sure the Red Tops would be interested. Cortese didn't act as if he owned the Club, he acted under a mandate from the former owner who gave him a job to do, which he did quite well. Times and the situation have changed, we wait and see how it pans out, actions speak louder than words.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.[/p][/quote]But did Katerina share Cortese's vision? Or did she get rid of him because he was autocratic and secretive and she wanted more of a handle on her money? Perhaps she wants a very competent manager who operates within budget and has moderate success and that is her vision. Cortese was great in terms of results but he acted like he owned the club but he didn't. She's the boss and she calls the shots, not Cortese or Krueger.[/p][/quote]Do we actually know that she "got rid of him"? I was under the impression that he wasn't happy that others would be interfering with his work, so found it unacceptable and left of his own volition. However like anyone else, it is an opinion formed from what I read and heard, it is uninformed comment because I have no actual proof either way. If you have the inside story let us hear it in it's full gory detail, I am sure the Red Tops would be interested. Cortese didn't act as if he owned the Club, he acted under a mandate from the former owner who gave him a job to do, which he did quite well. Times and the situation have changed, we wait and see how it pans out, actions speak louder than words. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

11:06am Wed 19 Mar 14

HorndeanSaint says...

dockboy wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.
So Krueger was appointed whilst you where away.
What exactly does that mean, do you believe this was done deliberately, just in case you decided to block the appointment with the huge influence you have over the St. Marys faithful.
Get over yourself, I very much doubt if KL cared about your location when Krueger was appointed, nor does anyone else for that matter.
What a clown, obviously never heard of Seedhouse's controlling influence over the sun, the moon, the rest of the planets and, most importantly, SFC.
[quote][p][bold]dockboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.[/p][/quote]So Krueger was appointed whilst you where away. What exactly does that mean, do you believe this was done deliberately, just in case you decided to block the appointment with the huge influence you have over the St. Marys faithful. Get over yourself, I very much doubt if KL cared about your location when Krueger was appointed, nor does anyone else for that matter.[/p][/quote]What a clown, obviously never heard of Seedhouse's controlling influence over the sun, the moon, the rest of the planets and, most importantly, SFC. HorndeanSaint
  • Score: 6

11:16am Wed 19 Mar 14

Poole Tom says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
Poole Tom wrote:
Bearing in mind that we have improved year on year for the last five years it is going to be extremely difficult to continue to do so next year, never mind over the course of the next five years. Furthermore that would have been the case even if Cortese was still at the helm. Realistically I think that the time has come for a period of stabilisation, hopefully in the top half of the Premier League. However we only have to look at the likes of WBA to see how difficult even that task is for clubs of our size and resources. The fact is that with gates of just 30,000, apparently lower commercial income than our competitors and an owner who quite rightly wants the business to operate within it`s means we are highly unlikely to break into the top six, even with our remarkable academy.
I agree with most of your post Tom, though I believe top 6 should be our aspiration for the next step-up and could be achievable. I look at Everton over the last 10 years or so and they have been consistently there or thereabouts and think they are the team we are most likely to be able to oust.

Moysey bless him did a good job for them on a limited budget. What they have done which maybe we need to consider is a shrewd top loan signing or two to complement what we already have. I don’t agree with same-league loans in principle but others are doing it so it’s worth considering.
I’m fairly positive about the vibe coming from St Marys executive, if Mauricio is signed up to a long-term contract then I see it as a statement of intent for a top 6 future becoming a reality.
I have no issue with you over your aspirations which I share, but realistically unless there is sufficient demand to warrant significantly increasing the capacity at St Mary`, about which I am not clear, I doubt whether an increase in commercial revenue`s alone will be enough to enable us to overtake the seven clubs currently above us in the league table. Don`t forget that there are also bigger clubs than us such as Newcastle, Aston Villa, Sunderland and some may argue West Ham who will be looking at us and thinking that currently they should be able to out perform us. Thus my point about how difficult it is to maintain a top half finish on a regular basis. Some may argue that`s it not all about money but you only have to look at Chelsea and Man City to know that in reality it is, and currently we don`t generate enough of it to achieve our aspirations.
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poole Tom[/bold] wrote: Bearing in mind that we have improved year on year for the last five years it is going to be extremely difficult to continue to do so next year, never mind over the course of the next five years. Furthermore that would have been the case even if Cortese was still at the helm. Realistically I think that the time has come for a period of stabilisation, hopefully in the top half of the Premier League. However we only have to look at the likes of WBA to see how difficult even that task is for clubs of our size and resources. The fact is that with gates of just 30,000, apparently lower commercial income than our competitors and an owner who quite rightly wants the business to operate within it`s means we are highly unlikely to break into the top six, even with our remarkable academy.[/p][/quote]I agree with most of your post Tom, though I believe top 6 should be our aspiration for the next step-up and could be achievable. I look at Everton over the last 10 years or so and they have been consistently there or thereabouts and think they are the team we are most likely to be able to oust. Moysey bless him did a good job for them on a limited budget. What they have done which maybe we need to consider is a shrewd top loan signing or two to complement what we already have. I don’t agree with same-league loans in principle but others are doing it so it’s worth considering. I’m fairly positive about the vibe coming from St Marys executive, if Mauricio is signed up to a long-term contract then I see it as a statement of intent for a top 6 future becoming a reality.[/p][/quote]I have no issue with you over your aspirations which I share, but realistically unless there is sufficient demand to warrant significantly increasing the capacity at St Mary`, about which I am not clear, I doubt whether an increase in commercial revenue`s alone will be enough to enable us to overtake the seven clubs currently above us in the league table. Don`t forget that there are also bigger clubs than us such as Newcastle, Aston Villa, Sunderland and some may argue West Ham who will be looking at us and thinking that currently they should be able to out perform us. Thus my point about how difficult it is to maintain a top half finish on a regular basis. Some may argue that`s it not all about money but you only have to look at Chelsea and Man City to know that in reality it is, and currently we don`t generate enough of it to achieve our aspirations. Poole Tom
  • Score: 1

11:16am Wed 19 Mar 14

Mush On The Beach says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
dockboy wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.
So Krueger was appointed whilst you where away.
What exactly does that mean, do you believe this was done deliberately, just in case you decided to block the appointment with the huge influence you have over the St. Marys faithful.
Get over yourself, I very much doubt if KL cared about your location when Krueger was appointed, nor does anyone else for that matter.
?
That’s a bit harsh dockboy, I think Seedhouse was just implying if rumours are true that the decision was made while he was on a break where they serve porridge every day laced with bromide and they don’t get the news at such regular intervals .... or was it The Caribbean? I forget, he gets around alot.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dockboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.[/p][/quote]So Krueger was appointed whilst you where away. What exactly does that mean, do you believe this was done deliberately, just in case you decided to block the appointment with the huge influence you have over the St. Marys faithful. Get over yourself, I very much doubt if KL cared about your location when Krueger was appointed, nor does anyone else for that matter.[/p][/quote]?[/p][/quote]That’s a bit harsh dockboy, I think Seedhouse was just implying if rumours are true that the decision was made while he was on a break where they serve porridge every day laced with bromide and they don’t get the news at such regular intervals .... or was it The Caribbean? I forget, he gets around alot. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 5

11:24am Wed 19 Mar 14

killared says...

What Krueger need to do first is to increase the capacity of the stadium I mean Saint is the biggest club in the south after all !
What Krueger need to do first is to increase the capacity of the stadium I mean Saint is the biggest club in the south after all ! killared
  • Score: 3

11:26am Wed 19 Mar 14

Blackknight says...

Its estimated that Football Agents trouser as much as 28% of all transfer fees, They have been accused of advising young players to leave clubs when it may not be in the players best interest and trying to extract exorbitant salaries for their clients. Premier league clubs spent £630 million in transfer fees in the summer of 2013 if 28% of that was paid to agents that's £176.4 million, a highly lucrative business.

How much better it would be if some of that cash found its way into grass root and kids football.

So good on Ralph Krueger if he can do something to stop agents making so much money.
Its estimated that Football Agents trouser as much as 28% of all transfer fees, They have been accused of advising young players to leave clubs when it may not be in the players best interest and trying to extract exorbitant salaries for their clients. Premier league clubs spent £630 million in transfer fees in the summer of 2013 if 28% of that was paid to agents that's £176.4 million, a highly lucrative business. How much better it would be if some of that cash found its way into grass root and kids football. So good on Ralph Krueger if he can do something to stop agents making so much money. Blackknight
  • Score: 7

11:30am Wed 19 Mar 14

Jesus_02 says...

george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.
But did Katerina share Cortese's vision? Or did she get rid of him because he was autocratic and secretive and she wanted more of a handle on her money? Perhaps she wants a very competent manager who operates within budget and has moderate success and that is her vision. Cortese was great in terms of results but he acted like he owned the club but he didn't. She's the boss and she calls the shots, not Cortese or Krueger.
You are spot on...Cortese WAS an autocrat. But he was an awesome autocrat. Football isn’t politics and in a business with a single source of investment dictators are ultimately more effective than a committee.

Large structures with strict governance give greater security but reduce agility

Hopefully Katharina simply got rid of Cortese because she didn’t trust him in the same way as Markus did. I would much prefer this than the prospect of multiple investors or (god forbid) floating the club as a “company”
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.[/p][/quote]But did Katerina share Cortese's vision? Or did she get rid of him because he was autocratic and secretive and she wanted more of a handle on her money? Perhaps she wants a very competent manager who operates within budget and has moderate success and that is her vision. Cortese was great in terms of results but he acted like he owned the club but he didn't. She's the boss and she calls the shots, not Cortese or Krueger.[/p][/quote]You are spot on...Cortese WAS an autocrat. But he was an awesome autocrat. Football isn’t politics and in a business with a single source of investment dictators are ultimately more effective than a committee. Large structures with strict governance give greater security but reduce agility Hopefully Katharina simply got rid of Cortese because she didn’t trust him in the same way as Markus did. I would much prefer this than the prospect of multiple investors or (god forbid) floating the club as a “company” Jesus_02
  • Score: 2

11:41am Wed 19 Mar 14

Chipmonk1 says...

@confucious. As much as I enjoy your humorous posts immensely, your post in this thread I think sums up what the majority of us are thinking. The future is indeed bright. Also a big thanks to @Outside the box. That interview was very interesting, it would seem that a more open approach is already in place.
@confucious. As much as I enjoy your humorous posts immensely, your post in this thread I think sums up what the majority of us are thinking. The future is indeed bright. Also a big thanks to @Outside the box. That interview was very interesting, it would seem that a more open approach is already in place. Chipmonk1
  • Score: 1

11:51am Wed 19 Mar 14

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH says...

AMBITION must be joined up. The Fans must demand success at every available opportunity using all available means and demand success and a statement of ambition from the Chairman.

Welcome back Seed.

THE SAINTS GO MARCHING ON-ON-ON

p.s. the manure game will be the biggest game left of the season - everyone will be UP for this one.
AMBITION must be joined up. The Fans must demand success at every available opportunity using all available means and demand success and a statement of ambition from the Chairman. Welcome back Seed. THE SAINTS GO MARCHING ON-ON-ON p.s. the manure game will be the biggest game left of the season - everyone will be UP for this one. REDARMYRULETHESOUTH
  • Score: 8

11:51am Wed 19 Mar 14

Outside of the Box says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Outside of the Box wrote:
Every Saints fan should listen to this interview with Ralph Krueger on Canadian radio this week. The Club are bringing in a Director of Football, also they have interviews with 3 major sponsors who want to pump prime the Club to the Champions League places (in time). He has his head screwed firmly on.

http://pmd.fan590.co


m/audio_on_demand-3/


Ralph-Krueger-with-T


im-Micallef-and-Sid-


Seixeiro--PTS--20140


317-Interview.mp3
good post but the club already has a director of football, les Reed. he was on the footballers football show last week on sky where they introduced him with that tittle, and put his name and tittle on screen at various points.
I saw the show with Les Reed on it, he said that loaning out didn't work for Saints youngster then loaned 2 players out.

I posted the director of football comment because Ralph Krueger says about it in the interview, I don't know who or to what position within the Club this person will be recruited too, but Krueger says he will be recruited.

Personally I hope its not a replacement for Les Reed, who to me is a football genius, especially when working, spotting youngsters.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: Every Saints fan should listen to this interview with Ralph Krueger on Canadian radio this week. The Club are bringing in a Director of Football, also they have interviews with 3 major sponsors who want to pump prime the Club to the Champions League places (in time). He has his head screwed firmly on. http://pmd.fan590.co m/audio_on_demand-3/ Ralph-Krueger-with-T im-Micallef-and-Sid- Seixeiro--PTS--20140 317-Interview.mp3[/p][/quote]good post but the club already has a director of football, les Reed. he was on the footballers football show last week on sky where they introduced him with that tittle, and put his name and tittle on screen at various points.[/p][/quote]I saw the show with Les Reed on it, he said that loaning out didn't work for Saints youngster then loaned 2 players out. I posted the director of football comment because Ralph Krueger says about it in the interview, I don't know who or to what position within the Club this person will be recruited too, but Krueger says he will be recruited. Personally I hope its not a replacement for Les Reed, who to me is a football genius, especially when working, spotting youngsters. Outside of the Box
  • Score: 4

11:58am Wed 19 Mar 14

Egomaniac says...

Do you know chaps, at the end of the day I don't really care! Why? Well, whatever the politics of the ownership and management, the rise from League 1 to 8th in the Premiership has been a magic time for me! I'm 73 this year, and been a Saints supporter for 65 of those years. Apart from our Cup success in 1976 (that will always be an exception!) these last four seasons have been fabulous for me - a Saints supporter.

I am too old to take anymore stress of possible relegation, bankruptcy and so on, so if my beloved team can stabilise themselves in the top ten every season, I will be able to die happy!! And who knows, the new structure might well move us onwards and upwards - that will be a bonus.

Sadly, as I live in the northwest , it is no longer possible for me to travel to St Mary's on a regular basis. So, to get my dose of badly needed football, I shall be attending Fleetwood in 10 days time to watch them take on the mighty Rochdale - top of League 2 right now. Don't know which to support, but as as lowly Fleetwood took Pompey apart recently. I tend to favour them. Trouble is, I am going with a lovely lady who is a staunch Rochdale supporter.

My, how times change, but I shall always be a Saints fan whatever their fortunes now and in the future.
Do you know chaps, at the end of the day I don't really care! Why? Well, whatever the politics of the ownership and management, the rise from League 1 to 8th in the Premiership has been a magic time for me! I'm 73 this year, and been a Saints supporter for 65 of those years. Apart from our Cup success in 1976 (that will always be an exception!) these last four seasons have been fabulous for me - a Saints supporter. I am too old to take anymore stress of possible relegation, bankruptcy and so on, so if my beloved team can stabilise themselves in the top ten every season, I will be able to die happy!! And who knows, the new structure might well move us onwards and upwards - that will be a bonus. Sadly, as I live in the northwest , it is no longer possible for me to travel to St Mary's on a regular basis. So, to get my dose of badly needed football, I shall be attending Fleetwood in 10 days time to watch them take on the mighty Rochdale - top of League 2 right now. Don't know which to support, but as as lowly Fleetwood took Pompey apart recently. I tend to favour them. Trouble is, I am going with a lovely lady who is a staunch Rochdale supporter. My, how times change, but I shall always be a Saints fan whatever their fortunes now and in the future. Egomaniac
  • Score: 28

11:59am Wed 19 Mar 14

Outside of the Box says...

killared wrote:
What Krueger need to do first is to increase the capacity of the stadium I mean Saint is the biggest club in the south after all !
We may be the biggest Club on the South Coast/South of London but I can't see that happening until every game is sold out and a waiting list appears for season tickets.

What purpose does expanding the stadia serve when its not sold out for every home game. Spending money on stadia that is not sold out is not good business at all, wait until we hit the SOLD OUT for every game then expand.

I can see more use of the stadia, I expect concert in the summer months to be regular thing, again increasing the turnover of the Club/Stadia in the quieter months.
[quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: What Krueger need to do first is to increase the capacity of the stadium I mean Saint is the biggest club in the south after all ![/p][/quote]We may be the biggest Club on the South Coast/South of London but I can't see that happening until every game is sold out and a waiting list appears for season tickets. What purpose does expanding the stadia serve when its not sold out for every home game. Spending money on stadia that is not sold out is not good business at all, wait until we hit the SOLD OUT for every game then expand. I can see more use of the stadia, I expect concert in the summer months to be regular thing, again increasing the turnover of the Club/Stadia in the quieter months. Outside of the Box
  • Score: 4

12:01pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Outside of the Box says...

Chipmonk1 wrote:
@confucious. As much as I enjoy your humorous posts immensely, your post in this thread I think sums up what the majority of us are thinking. The future is indeed bright. Also a big thanks to @Outside the box. That interview was very interesting, it would seem that a more open approach is already in place.
My pleasure
[quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: @confucious. As much as I enjoy your humorous posts immensely, your post in this thread I think sums up what the majority of us are thinking. The future is indeed bright. Also a big thanks to @Outside the box. That interview was very interesting, it would seem that a more open approach is already in place.[/p][/quote]My pleasure Outside of the Box
  • Score: 1

12:05pm Wed 19 Mar 14

right back in the bar says...

decent burgers, hotdogs, and beer. and cheerleaders - yes cheerleaders with big tits, long legs, and firm buttocks. Bring some of that North American razzamatazz to the club make it a family day out - something for everyone
decent burgers, hotdogs, and beer. and cheerleaders - yes cheerleaders with big tits, long legs, and firm buttocks. Bring some of that North American razzamatazz to the club make it a family day out - something for everyone right back in the bar
  • Score: 13

12:09pm Wed 19 Mar 14

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH says...

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH wrote:
AMBITION must be joined up. The Fans must demand success at every available opportunity using all available means and demand success and a statement of ambition from the Chairman.

Welcome back Seed.

THE SAINTS GO MARCHING ON-ON-ON

p.s. the manure game will be the biggest game left of the season - everyone will be UP for this one.
manure may be the biggest game of the season - but REMEMBER how our fans dominated at SPURS last season. Could hardly hear the Home Supporters as they were outplayed for most of the game

COYR.
[quote][p][bold]REDARMYRULETHESOUTH[/bold] wrote: AMBITION must be joined up. The Fans must demand success at every available opportunity using all available means and demand success and a statement of ambition from the Chairman. Welcome back Seed. THE SAINTS GO MARCHING ON-ON-ON p.s. the manure game will be the biggest game left of the season - everyone will be UP for this one.[/p][/quote]manure may be the biggest game of the season - but REMEMBER how our fans dominated at SPURS last season. Could hardly hear the Home Supporters as they were outplayed for most of the game COYR. REDARMYRULETHESOUTH
  • Score: 7

12:11pm Wed 19 Mar 14

DisplacedFan says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
dockboy wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.
So Krueger was appointed whilst you where away.
What exactly does that mean, do you believe this was done deliberately, just in case you decided to block the appointment with the huge influence you have over the St. Marys faithful.
Get over yourself, I very much doubt if KL cared about your location when Krueger was appointed, nor does anyone else for that matter.
?
Missing the humour, I think.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dockboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.[/p][/quote]So Krueger was appointed whilst you where away. What exactly does that mean, do you believe this was done deliberately, just in case you decided to block the appointment with the huge influence you have over the St. Marys faithful. Get over yourself, I very much doubt if KL cared about your location when Krueger was appointed, nor does anyone else for that matter.[/p][/quote]?[/p][/quote]Missing the humour, I think. DisplacedFan
  • Score: 0

1:23pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Golden_Salamander says...

There is a lot more to Ralph Krueger than the media let on to.

Here is the 1 hour 17 mins Motivation Speech he gave at the World Economic Forum in May 2012.

https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=kAJjRuW6
Jt4
There is a lot more to Ralph Krueger than the media let on to. Here is the 1 hour 17 mins Motivation Speech he gave at the World Economic Forum in May 2012. https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=kAJjRuW6 Jt4 Golden_Salamander
  • Score: 3

1:31pm Wed 19 Mar 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Outside of the Box wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Outside of the Box wrote:
Every Saints fan should listen to this interview with Ralph Krueger on Canadian radio this week. The Club are bringing in a Director of Football, also they have interviews with 3 major sponsors who want to pump prime the Club to the Champions League places (in time). He has his head screwed firmly on.

http://pmd.fan590.co



m/audio_on_demand-3/



Ralph-Krueger-with-T



im-Micallef-and-Sid-



Seixeiro--PTS--20140



317-Interview.mp3
good post but the club already has a director of football, les Reed. he was on the footballers football show last week on sky where they introduced him with that tittle, and put his name and tittle on screen at various points.
I saw the show with Les Reed on it, he said that loaning out didn't work for Saints youngster then loaned 2 players out.

I posted the director of football comment because Ralph Krueger says about it in the interview, I don't know who or to what position within the Club this person will be recruited too, but Krueger says he will be recruited.

Personally I hope its not a replacement for Les Reed, who to me is a football genius, especially when working, spotting youngsters.
Les was appointed as head of football development and support in 2010. he is now on the board as an executive director, so have they changed his job tittle or are they bringing in someone else? he never corrected sky so my guess, and it is just a guess, is that he has had his job tittle/description/d
uties changed. we will just have to wait and see.
one thing for sure is that Les has (or did) have lots of power/duties/influen
ce over the club, his original job description was head of football development and support, overseeing four main areas: the youth academy, scouting and recruitment, sports medicine and science, and kit and equipment management.
with all those duties he must be a busy man, and I notice he was in charge of the kit and so must be responsible for the current design. lots of fans don't like the kit, I don't mind it and have both home and away, and blamed NC for it. NC would have had the final say but it must have been Les who dealt with adidas.
I too hope that Les isn't replaced he talked a lot of sense on the tv, he did say that loaning players doesn't work for saints, but didn't he say that about players who are expected to play a part in the first team in the future? I think he was open to loans but for players who might not make the grade for us. his main points were that we are not here to produce players for the lower leagues (like chelski and mancy and others do) so why would we want our kids playing in those leagues, not being under the eye of our coaches, which he believes are the best, and not learning our system at our excellent academy.
[quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: Every Saints fan should listen to this interview with Ralph Krueger on Canadian radio this week. The Club are bringing in a Director of Football, also they have interviews with 3 major sponsors who want to pump prime the Club to the Champions League places (in time). He has his head screwed firmly on. http://pmd.fan590.co m/audio_on_demand-3/ Ralph-Krueger-with-T im-Micallef-and-Sid- Seixeiro--PTS--20140 317-Interview.mp3[/p][/quote]good post but the club already has a director of football, les Reed. he was on the footballers football show last week on sky where they introduced him with that tittle, and put his name and tittle on screen at various points.[/p][/quote]I saw the show with Les Reed on it, he said that loaning out didn't work for Saints youngster then loaned 2 players out. I posted the director of football comment because Ralph Krueger says about it in the interview, I don't know who or to what position within the Club this person will be recruited too, but Krueger says he will be recruited. Personally I hope its not a replacement for Les Reed, who to me is a football genius, especially when working, spotting youngsters.[/p][/quote]Les was appointed as head of football development and support in 2010. he is now on the board as an executive director, so have they changed his job tittle or are they bringing in someone else? he never corrected sky so my guess, and it is just a guess, is that he has had his job tittle/description/d uties changed. we will just have to wait and see. one thing for sure is that Les has (or did) have lots of power/duties/influen ce over the club, his original job description was head of football development and support, overseeing four main areas: the youth academy, scouting and recruitment, sports medicine and science, and kit and equipment management. with all those duties he must be a busy man, and I notice he was in charge of the kit and so must be responsible for the current design. lots of fans don't like the kit, I don't mind it and have both home and away, and blamed NC for it. NC would have had the final say but it must have been Les who dealt with adidas. I too hope that Les isn't replaced he talked a lot of sense on the tv, he did say that loaning players doesn't work for saints, but didn't he say that about players who are expected to play a part in the first team in the future? I think he was open to loans but for players who might not make the grade for us. his main points were that we are not here to produce players for the lower leagues (like chelski and mancy and others do) so why would we want our kids playing in those leagues, not being under the eye of our coaches, which he believes are the best, and not learning our system at our excellent academy. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 4

1:51pm Wed 19 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

DisplacedFan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
dockboy wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.
So Krueger was appointed whilst you where away.
What exactly does that mean, do you believe this was done deliberately, just in case you decided to block the appointment with the huge influence you have over the St. Marys faithful.
Get over yourself, I very much doubt if KL cared about your location when Krueger was appointed, nor does anyone else for that matter.
?
Missing the humour, I think.
Had a moment of wtf, lost the plot completely to be honest. I couldn't think of an anything amusing to respond with, I am not usually lost for words as you well know.
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dockboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.[/p][/quote]So Krueger was appointed whilst you where away. What exactly does that mean, do you believe this was done deliberately, just in case you decided to block the appointment with the huge influence you have over the St. Marys faithful. Get over yourself, I very much doubt if KL cared about your location when Krueger was appointed, nor does anyone else for that matter.[/p][/quote]?[/p][/quote]Missing the humour, I think.[/p][/quote]Had a moment of wtf, lost the plot completely to be honest. I couldn't think of an anything amusing to respond with, I am not usually lost for words as you well know. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

1:53pm Wed 19 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

right back in the bar wrote:
decent burgers, hotdogs, and beer. and cheerleaders - yes cheerleaders with big tits, long legs, and firm buttocks. Bring some of that North American razzamatazz to the club make it a family day out - something for everyone
I want to see REDARMYRULETHESOUTH leading out a troupe of nubile cheerleaders, shouting at the top of his voice.
[quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: decent burgers, hotdogs, and beer. and cheerleaders - yes cheerleaders with big tits, long legs, and firm buttocks. Bring some of that North American razzamatazz to the club make it a family day out - something for everyone[/p][/quote]I want to see REDARMYRULETHESOUTH leading out a troupe of nubile cheerleaders, shouting at the top of his voice. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

1:55pm Wed 19 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Couldn't see much in the Budget to aid my financing of next Seasons ST.
Couldn't see much in the Budget to aid my financing of next Seasons ST. OSPREYSAINT
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1:57pm Wed 19 Mar 14

lowe esteem says...

Beer Monster wrote:
circa 66 saint wrote:
Nothing to do with this thread but felt the need to put it in writing.
Just woke up and had a dream, no a premonition, no more like a vision , that's it a vision.
Its the last day of the season and Manure are in the last Europa spot all they need is a draw, anyway we trounce them to take their place, good eh!, but wait there's more in the bottom basement Northampton are playing the SKUNTS and need to win to save themselves and send the SKUNTS into oblivion,guess what the SKUNTS lose and are relegated. Riots follow and the away supporters are both locked up.
OK the last bit was made up but the rest is possible and even probable.
COYR.
I've had the same premonition circa 66 (well, at least the bit about Saints overtaking ManUre on the last day of the season, anyway). I'd like to see MP make his first interview in English by saying before the match that he'd love it it if we smashed them :-)

COYR
No no no-that's called 'doing a KK'
Mauricio can say it afterwards. Obrigado.
[quote][p][bold]Beer Monster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]circa 66 saint[/bold] wrote: Nothing to do with this thread but felt the need to put it in writing. Just woke up and had a dream, no a premonition, no more like a vision , that's it a vision. Its the last day of the season and Manure are in the last Europa spot all they need is a draw, anyway we trounce them to take their place, good eh!, but wait there's more in the bottom basement Northampton are playing the SKUNTS and need to win to save themselves and send the SKUNTS into oblivion,guess what the SKUNTS lose and are relegated. Riots follow and the away supporters are both locked up. OK the last bit was made up but the rest is possible and even probable. COYR.[/p][/quote]I've had the same premonition circa 66 (well, at least the bit about Saints overtaking ManUre on the last day of the season, anyway). I'd like to see MP make his first interview in English by saying before the match that he'd love it it if we smashed them :-) COYR[/p][/quote]No no no-that's called 'doing a KK' Mauricio can say it afterwards. Obrigado. lowe esteem
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2:07pm Wed 19 Mar 14

lowe esteem says...

Outside of the Box wrote:
killared wrote:
What Krueger need to do first is to increase the capacity of the stadium I mean Saint is the biggest club in the south after all !
We may be the biggest Club on the South Coast/South of London but I can't see that happening until every game is sold out and a waiting list appears for season tickets.

What purpose does expanding the stadia serve when its not sold out for every home game. Spending money on stadia that is not sold out is not good business at all, wait until we hit the SOLD OUT for every game then expand.

I can see more use of the stadia, I expect concert in the summer months to be regular thing, again increasing the turnover of the Club/Stadia in the quieter months.
You're talking narrowly about pennies, think it through.
The club will know there are small holes in the dam, and these will be plugged, but look at the bigger picture.
Also, try and use some punctuation, question marks etc if you want to be taken seriously. Would of/Could of makes no sense. What you have heard is could've (abbreviation of could have) and would've (short for would have).
Don't tell everyone where you learnt this, though, it's a good way of skunt spotting.
[quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: What Krueger need to do first is to increase the capacity of the stadium I mean Saint is the biggest club in the south after all ![/p][/quote]We may be the biggest Club on the South Coast/South of London but I can't see that happening until every game is sold out and a waiting list appears for season tickets. What purpose does expanding the stadia serve when its not sold out for every home game. Spending money on stadia that is not sold out is not good business at all, wait until we hit the SOLD OUT for every game then expand. I can see more use of the stadia, I expect concert in the summer months to be regular thing, again increasing the turnover of the Club/Stadia in the quieter months.[/p][/quote]You're talking narrowly about pennies, think it through. The club will know there are small holes in the dam, and these will be plugged, but look at the bigger picture. Also, try and use some punctuation, question marks etc if you want to be taken seriously. Would of/Could of makes no sense. What you have heard is could've (abbreviation of could have) and would've (short for would have). Don't tell everyone where you learnt this, though, it's a good way of skunt spotting. lowe esteem
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2:16pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Outside of the Box says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Outside of the Box wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Outside of the Box wrote:
Every Saints fan should listen to this interview with Ralph Krueger on Canadian radio this week. The Club are bringing in a Director of Football, also they have interviews with 3 major sponsors who want to pump prime the Club to the Champions League places (in time). He has his head screwed firmly on.

http://pmd.fan590.co




m/audio_on_demand-3/




Ralph-Krueger-with-T




im-Micallef-and-Sid-




Seixeiro--PTS--20140




317-Interview.mp3
good post but the club already has a director of football, les Reed. he was on the footballers football show last week on sky where they introduced him with that tittle, and put his name and tittle on screen at various points.
I saw the show with Les Reed on it, he said that loaning out didn't work for Saints youngster then loaned 2 players out.

I posted the director of football comment because Ralph Krueger says about it in the interview, I don't know who or to what position within the Club this person will be recruited too, but Krueger says he will be recruited.

Personally I hope its not a replacement for Les Reed, who to me is a football genius, especially when working, spotting youngsters.
Les was appointed as head of football development and support in 2010. he is now on the board as an executive director, so have they changed his job tittle or are they bringing in someone else? he never corrected sky so my guess, and it is just a guess, is that he has had his job tittle/description/d

uties changed. we will just have to wait and see.
one thing for sure is that Les has (or did) have lots of power/duties/influen

ce over the club, his original job description was head of football development and support, overseeing four main areas: the youth academy, scouting and recruitment, sports medicine and science, and kit and equipment management.
with all those duties he must be a busy man, and I notice he was in charge of the kit and so must be responsible for the current design. lots of fans don't like the kit, I don't mind it and have both home and away, and blamed NC for it. NC would have had the final say but it must have been Les who dealt with adidas.
I too hope that Les isn't replaced he talked a lot of sense on the tv, he did say that loaning players doesn't work for saints, but didn't he say that about players who are expected to play a part in the first team in the future? I think he was open to loans but for players who might not make the grade for us. his main points were that we are not here to produce players for the lower leagues (like chelski and mancy and others do) so why would we want our kids playing in those leagues, not being under the eye of our coaches, which he believes are the best, and not learning our system at our excellent academy.
I take on board what you've said regarding Les Reed however it was NC who was responsible for the kit change and colour selection, he hated red and white stripes and the colour red in general, I have it on good authority that he wanted Saints in to play home games in Black shirts and white shorts.

NC dealt with Adidas as per all contracts player and the commercial side of the Club, even though the club had managers in place for such tasks, he fired shop staff himself, he walked in to the shop and told 2 members of staff to leave, handed them a months money in a cheque and told them to sue the Club if they wanted too for unfair dismissal, their crime was in his word Your'e too old to work here, he replaced them with dolly birds.

He ruled by fear, no one would say anything against him, don't get me wrong I have nothing against NC or any axe to grind with him, as a businessman he was ruthless, his management skills were nil and void however things on the pitch worked whilst he was here and that's all that matters to me. Friends working at the Club now are much happier with Ralph and Katarinia as their approach is very much different.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: Every Saints fan should listen to this interview with Ralph Krueger on Canadian radio this week. The Club are bringing in a Director of Football, also they have interviews with 3 major sponsors who want to pump prime the Club to the Champions League places (in time). He has his head screwed firmly on. http://pmd.fan590.co m/audio_on_demand-3/ Ralph-Krueger-with-T im-Micallef-and-Sid- Seixeiro--PTS--20140 317-Interview.mp3[/p][/quote]good post but the club already has a director of football, les Reed. he was on the footballers football show last week on sky where they introduced him with that tittle, and put his name and tittle on screen at various points.[/p][/quote]I saw the show with Les Reed on it, he said that loaning out didn't work for Saints youngster then loaned 2 players out. I posted the director of football comment because Ralph Krueger says about it in the interview, I don't know who or to what position within the Club this person will be recruited too, but Krueger says he will be recruited. Personally I hope its not a replacement for Les Reed, who to me is a football genius, especially when working, spotting youngsters.[/p][/quote]Les was appointed as head of football development and support in 2010. he is now on the board as an executive director, so have they changed his job tittle or are they bringing in someone else? he never corrected sky so my guess, and it is just a guess, is that he has had his job tittle/description/d uties changed. we will just have to wait and see. one thing for sure is that Les has (or did) have lots of power/duties/influen ce over the club, his original job description was head of football development and support, overseeing four main areas: the youth academy, scouting and recruitment, sports medicine and science, and kit and equipment management. with all those duties he must be a busy man, and I notice he was in charge of the kit and so must be responsible for the current design. lots of fans don't like the kit, I don't mind it and have both home and away, and blamed NC for it. NC would have had the final say but it must have been Les who dealt with adidas. I too hope that Les isn't replaced he talked a lot of sense on the tv, he did say that loaning players doesn't work for saints, but didn't he say that about players who are expected to play a part in the first team in the future? I think he was open to loans but for players who might not make the grade for us. his main points were that we are not here to produce players for the lower leagues (like chelski and mancy and others do) so why would we want our kids playing in those leagues, not being under the eye of our coaches, which he believes are the best, and not learning our system at our excellent academy.[/p][/quote]I take on board what you've said regarding Les Reed however it was NC who was responsible for the kit change and colour selection, he hated red and white stripes and the colour red in general, I have it on good authority that he wanted Saints in to play home games in Black shirts and white shorts. NC dealt with Adidas as per all contracts player and the commercial side of the Club, even though the club had managers in place for such tasks, he fired shop staff himself, he walked in to the shop and told 2 members of staff to leave, handed them a months money in a cheque and told them to sue the Club if they wanted too for unfair dismissal, their crime was in his word Your'e too old to work here, he replaced them with dolly birds. He ruled by fear, no one would say anything against him, don't get me wrong I have nothing against NC or any axe to grind with him, as a businessman he was ruthless, his management skills were nil and void however things on the pitch worked whilst he was here and that's all that matters to me. Friends working at the Club now are much happier with Ralph and Katarinia as their approach is very much different. Outside of the Box
  • Score: 3

2:18pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Outside of the Box says...

lowe esteem wrote:
Outside of the Box wrote:
killared wrote:
What Krueger need to do first is to increase the capacity of the stadium I mean Saint is the biggest club in the south after all !
We may be the biggest Club on the South Coast/South of London but I can't see that happening until every game is sold out and a waiting list appears for season tickets.

What purpose does expanding the stadia serve when its not sold out for every home game. Spending money on stadia that is not sold out is not good business at all, wait until we hit the SOLD OUT for every game then expand.

I can see more use of the stadia, I expect concert in the summer months to be regular thing, again increasing the turnover of the Club/Stadia in the quieter months.
You're talking narrowly about pennies, think it through.
The club will know there are small holes in the dam, and these will be plugged, but look at the bigger picture.
Also, try and use some punctuation, question marks etc if you want to be taken seriously. Would of/Could of makes no sense. What you have heard is could've (abbreviation of could have) and would've (short for would have).
Don't tell everyone where you learnt this, though, it's a good way of skunt spotting.
WTF are you on about?
[quote][p][bold]lowe esteem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: What Krueger need to do first is to increase the capacity of the stadium I mean Saint is the biggest club in the south after all ![/p][/quote]We may be the biggest Club on the South Coast/South of London but I can't see that happening until every game is sold out and a waiting list appears for season tickets. What purpose does expanding the stadia serve when its not sold out for every home game. Spending money on stadia that is not sold out is not good business at all, wait until we hit the SOLD OUT for every game then expand. I can see more use of the stadia, I expect concert in the summer months to be regular thing, again increasing the turnover of the Club/Stadia in the quieter months.[/p][/quote]You're talking narrowly about pennies, think it through. The club will know there are small holes in the dam, and these will be plugged, but look at the bigger picture. Also, try and use some punctuation, question marks etc if you want to be taken seriously. Would of/Could of makes no sense. What you have heard is could've (abbreviation of could have) and would've (short for would have). Don't tell everyone where you learnt this, though, it's a good way of skunt spotting.[/p][/quote]WTF are you on about? Outside of the Box
  • Score: 4

2:36pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Santa Retfordia says...

Outside of the Box wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Outside of the Box wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Outside of the Box wrote: Every Saints fan should listen to this interview with Ralph Krueger on Canadian radio this week. The Club are bringing in a Director of Football, also they have interviews with 3 major sponsors who want to pump prime the Club to the Champions League places (in time). He has his head screwed firmly on. http://pmd.fan590.co m/audio_on_demand-3/ Ralph-Krueger-with-T im-Micallef-and-Sid- Seixeiro--PTS--20140 317-Interview.mp3
good post but the club already has a director of football, les Reed. he was on the footballers football show last week on sky where they introduced him with that tittle, and put his name and tittle on screen at various points.
I saw the show with Les Reed on it, he said that loaning out didn't work for Saints youngster then loaned 2 players out. I posted the director of football comment because Ralph Krueger says about it in the interview, I don't know who or to what position within the Club this person will be recruited too, but Krueger says he will be recruited. Personally I hope its not a replacement for Les Reed, who to me is a football genius, especially when working, spotting youngsters.
Les was appointed as head of football development and support in 2010. he is now on the board as an executive director, so have they changed his job tittle or are they bringing in someone else? he never corrected sky so my guess, and it is just a guess, is that he has had his job tittle/description/d uties changed. we will just have to wait and see. one thing for sure is that Les has (or did) have lots of power/duties/influen ce over the club, his original job description was head of football development and support, overseeing four main areas: the youth academy, scouting and recruitment, sports medicine and science, and kit and equipment management. with all those duties he must be a busy man, and I notice he was in charge of the kit and so must be responsible for the current design. lots of fans don't like the kit, I don't mind it and have both home and away, and blamed NC for it. NC would have had the final say but it must have been Les who dealt with adidas. I too hope that Les isn't replaced he talked a lot of sense on the tv, he did say that loaning players doesn't work for saints, but didn't he say that about players who are expected to play a part in the first team in the future? I think he was open to loans but for players who might not make the grade for us. his main points were that we are not here to produce players for the lower leagues (like chelski and mancy and others do) so why would we want our kids playing in those leagues, not being under the eye of our coaches, which he believes are the best, and not learning our system at our excellent academy.
I take on board what you've said regarding Les Reed however it was NC who was responsible for the kit change and colour selection, he hated red and white stripes and the colour red in general, I have it on good authority that he wanted Saints in to play home games in Black shirts and white shorts. NC dealt with Adidas as per all contracts player and the commercial side of the Club, even though the club had managers in place for such tasks, he fired shop staff himself, he walked in to the shop and told 2 members of staff to leave, handed them a months money in a cheque and told them to sue the Club if they wanted too for unfair dismissal, their crime was in his word Your'e too old to work here, he replaced them with dolly birds. He ruled by fear, no one would say anything against him, don't get me wrong I have nothing against NC or any axe to grind with him, as a businessman he was ruthless, his management skills were nil and void however things on the pitch worked whilst he was here and that's all that matters to me. Friends working at the Club now are much happier with Ralph and Katarinia as their approach is very much different.
For someone that hated the colour red he did a pretty sh1t job at getting rid of it.
[quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: Every Saints fan should listen to this interview with Ralph Krueger on Canadian radio this week. The Club are bringing in a Director of Football, also they have interviews with 3 major sponsors who want to pump prime the Club to the Champions League places (in time). He has his head screwed firmly on. http://pmd.fan590.co m/audio_on_demand-3/ Ralph-Krueger-with-T im-Micallef-and-Sid- Seixeiro--PTS--20140 317-Interview.mp3[/p][/quote]good post but the club already has a director of football, les Reed. he was on the footballers football show last week on sky where they introduced him with that tittle, and put his name and tittle on screen at various points.[/p][/quote]I saw the show with Les Reed on it, he said that loaning out didn't work for Saints youngster then loaned 2 players out. I posted the director of football comment because Ralph Krueger says about it in the interview, I don't know who or to what position within the Club this person will be recruited too, but Krueger says he will be recruited. Personally I hope its not a replacement for Les Reed, who to me is a football genius, especially when working, spotting youngsters.[/p][/quote]Les was appointed as head of football development and support in 2010. he is now on the board as an executive director, so have they changed his job tittle or are they bringing in someone else? he never corrected sky so my guess, and it is just a guess, is that he has had his job tittle/description/d uties changed. we will just have to wait and see. one thing for sure is that Les has (or did) have lots of power/duties/influen ce over the club, his original job description was head of football development and support, overseeing four main areas: the youth academy, scouting and recruitment, sports medicine and science, and kit and equipment management. with all those duties he must be a busy man, and I notice he was in charge of the kit and so must be responsible for the current design. lots of fans don't like the kit, I don't mind it and have both home and away, and blamed NC for it. NC would have had the final say but it must have been Les who dealt with adidas. I too hope that Les isn't replaced he talked a lot of sense on the tv, he did say that loaning players doesn't work for saints, but didn't he say that about players who are expected to play a part in the first team in the future? I think he was open to loans but for players who might not make the grade for us. his main points were that we are not here to produce players for the lower leagues (like chelski and mancy and others do) so why would we want our kids playing in those leagues, not being under the eye of our coaches, which he believes are the best, and not learning our system at our excellent academy.[/p][/quote]I take on board what you've said regarding Les Reed however it was NC who was responsible for the kit change and colour selection, he hated red and white stripes and the colour red in general, I have it on good authority that he wanted Saints in to play home games in Black shirts and white shorts. NC dealt with Adidas as per all contracts player and the commercial side of the Club, even though the club had managers in place for such tasks, he fired shop staff himself, he walked in to the shop and told 2 members of staff to leave, handed them a months money in a cheque and told them to sue the Club if they wanted too for unfair dismissal, their crime was in his word Your'e too old to work here, he replaced them with dolly birds. He ruled by fear, no one would say anything against him, don't get me wrong I have nothing against NC or any axe to grind with him, as a businessman he was ruthless, his management skills were nil and void however things on the pitch worked whilst he was here and that's all that matters to me. Friends working at the Club now are much happier with Ralph and Katarinia as their approach is very much different.[/p][/quote]For someone that hated the colour red he did a pretty sh1t job at getting rid of it. Santa Retfordia
  • Score: 1

3:24pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Anyway,never mind all that,beer is going down...anyone for a pint?
Anyway,never mind all that,beer is going down...anyone for a pint? Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

3:27pm Wed 19 Mar 14

SaintSteve76 says...

I just look forward to the summer with both excitement and a little bit of apprehension. I think that by the end of the summer transfer window it will be clear to everyone whether or not the huge ambition and vision for the club is still there. Since Cortese left I haven't heard one mention of the vision for the club and potential champions league football in years to come. Had Cortese still been at the club I would have felt confident about making one or two major signings in the summer, whilst keeping hold of our star players as well. I am however now unsure and even pessimistic about this happening. I hope i'm wrong. Krueger's comment about the club having to 'Live within it's means' is worrying and obviously comes from Katherina. This is something I am sure Cortese would have never said. Having said all this there are many comments Ralph Krueger has made that I have found to be positive and encouraging. Particularly regarding the training ground and the expansion of St Mary's. I just wish he would come out and assure the fans that no star players are for sale with the exception of a ridiculous offer.
I just look forward to the summer with both excitement and a little bit of apprehension. I think that by the end of the summer transfer window it will be clear to everyone whether or not the huge ambition and vision for the club is still there. Since Cortese left I haven't heard one mention of the vision for the club and potential champions league football in years to come. Had Cortese still been at the club I would have felt confident about making one or two major signings in the summer, whilst keeping hold of our star players as well. I am however now unsure and even pessimistic about this happening. I hope i'm wrong. Krueger's comment about the club having to 'Live within it's means' is worrying and obviously comes from Katherina. This is something I am sure Cortese would have never said. Having said all this there are many comments Ralph Krueger has made that I have found to be positive and encouraging. Particularly regarding the training ground and the expansion of St Mary's. I just wish he would come out and assure the fans that no star players are for sale with the exception of a ridiculous offer. SaintSteve76
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4:02pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Outside of the Box says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
Outside of the Box wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Outside of the Box wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Outside of the Box wrote: Every Saints fan should listen to this interview with Ralph Krueger on Canadian radio this week. The Club are bringing in a Director of Football, also they have interviews with 3 major sponsors who want to pump prime the Club to the Champions League places (in time). He has his head screwed firmly on. http://pmd.fan590.co m/audio_on_demand-3/ Ralph-Krueger-with-T im-Micallef-and-Sid- Seixeiro--PTS--20140 317-Interview.mp3
good post but the club already has a director of football, les Reed. he was on the footballers football show last week on sky where they introduced him with that tittle, and put his name and tittle on screen at various points.
I saw the show with Les Reed on it, he said that loaning out didn't work for Saints youngster then loaned 2 players out. I posted the director of football comment because Ralph Krueger says about it in the interview, I don't know who or to what position within the Club this person will be recruited too, but Krueger says he will be recruited. Personally I hope its not a replacement for Les Reed, who to me is a football genius, especially when working, spotting youngsters.
Les was appointed as head of football development and support in 2010. he is now on the board as an executive director, so have they changed his job tittle or are they bringing in someone else? he never corrected sky so my guess, and it is just a guess, is that he has had his job tittle/description/d uties changed. we will just have to wait and see. one thing for sure is that Les has (or did) have lots of power/duties/influen ce over the club, his original job description was head of football development and support, overseeing four main areas: the youth academy, scouting and recruitment, sports medicine and science, and kit and equipment management. with all those duties he must be a busy man, and I notice he was in charge of the kit and so must be responsible for the current design. lots of fans don't like the kit, I don't mind it and have both home and away, and blamed NC for it. NC would have had the final say but it must have been Les who dealt with adidas. I too hope that Les isn't replaced he talked a lot of sense on the tv, he did say that loaning players doesn't work for saints, but didn't he say that about players who are expected to play a part in the first team in the future? I think he was open to loans but for players who might not make the grade for us. his main points were that we are not here to produce players for the lower leagues (like chelski and mancy and others do) so why would we want our kids playing in those leagues, not being under the eye of our coaches, which he believes are the best, and not learning our system at our excellent academy.
I take on board what you've said regarding Les Reed however it was NC who was responsible for the kit change and colour selection, he hated red and white stripes and the colour red in general, I have it on good authority that he wanted Saints in to play home games in Black shirts and white shorts. NC dealt with Adidas as per all contracts player and the commercial side of the Club, even though the club had managers in place for such tasks, he fired shop staff himself, he walked in to the shop and told 2 members of staff to leave, handed them a months money in a cheque and told them to sue the Club if they wanted too for unfair dismissal, their crime was in his word Your'e too old to work here, he replaced them with dolly birds. He ruled by fear, no one would say anything against him, don't get me wrong I have nothing against NC or any axe to grind with him, as a businessman he was ruthless, his management skills were nil and void however things on the pitch worked whilst he was here and that's all that matters to me. Friends working at the Club now are much happier with Ralph and Katarinia as their approach is very much different.
For someone that hated the colour red he did a pretty sh1t job at getting rid of it.
He applied to the FA to change but they refused to change the colour.
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: Every Saints fan should listen to this interview with Ralph Krueger on Canadian radio this week. The Club are bringing in a Director of Football, also they have interviews with 3 major sponsors who want to pump prime the Club to the Champions League places (in time). He has his head screwed firmly on. http://pmd.fan590.co m/audio_on_demand-3/ Ralph-Krueger-with-T im-Micallef-and-Sid- Seixeiro--PTS--20140 317-Interview.mp3[/p][/quote]good post but the club already has a director of football, les Reed. he was on the footballers football show last week on sky where they introduced him with that tittle, and put his name and tittle on screen at various points.[/p][/quote]I saw the show with Les Reed on it, he said that loaning out didn't work for Saints youngster then loaned 2 players out. I posted the director of football comment because Ralph Krueger says about it in the interview, I don't know who or to what position within the Club this person will be recruited too, but Krueger says he will be recruited. Personally I hope its not a replacement for Les Reed, who to me is a football genius, especially when working, spotting youngsters.[/p][/quote]Les was appointed as head of football development and support in 2010. he is now on the board as an executive director, so have they changed his job tittle or are they bringing in someone else? he never corrected sky so my guess, and it is just a guess, is that he has had his job tittle/description/d uties changed. we will just have to wait and see. one thing for sure is that Les has (or did) have lots of power/duties/influen ce over the club, his original job description was head of football development and support, overseeing four main areas: the youth academy, scouting and recruitment, sports medicine and science, and kit and equipment management. with all those duties he must be a busy man, and I notice he was in charge of the kit and so must be responsible for the current design. lots of fans don't like the kit, I don't mind it and have both home and away, and blamed NC for it. NC would have had the final say but it must have been Les who dealt with adidas. I too hope that Les isn't replaced he talked a lot of sense on the tv, he did say that loaning players doesn't work for saints, but didn't he say that about players who are expected to play a part in the first team in the future? I think he was open to loans but for players who might not make the grade for us. his main points were that we are not here to produce players for the lower leagues (like chelski and mancy and others do) so why would we want our kids playing in those leagues, not being under the eye of our coaches, which he believes are the best, and not learning our system at our excellent academy.[/p][/quote]I take on board what you've said regarding Les Reed however it was NC who was responsible for the kit change and colour selection, he hated red and white stripes and the colour red in general, I have it on good authority that he wanted Saints in to play home games in Black shirts and white shorts. NC dealt with Adidas as per all contracts player and the commercial side of the Club, even though the club had managers in place for such tasks, he fired shop staff himself, he walked in to the shop and told 2 members of staff to leave, handed them a months money in a cheque and told them to sue the Club if they wanted too for unfair dismissal, their crime was in his word Your'e too old to work here, he replaced them with dolly birds. He ruled by fear, no one would say anything against him, don't get me wrong I have nothing against NC or any axe to grind with him, as a businessman he was ruthless, his management skills were nil and void however things on the pitch worked whilst he was here and that's all that matters to me. Friends working at the Club now are much happier with Ralph and Katarinia as their approach is very much different.[/p][/quote]For someone that hated the colour red he did a pretty sh1t job at getting rid of it.[/p][/quote]He applied to the FA to change but they refused to change the colour. Outside of the Box
  • Score: 1

4:06pm Wed 19 Mar 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
Outside of the Box wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Outside of the Box wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Outside of the Box wrote: Every Saints fan should listen to this interview with Ralph Krueger on Canadian radio this week. The Club are bringing in a Director of Football, also they have interviews with 3 major sponsors who want to pump prime the Club to the Champions League places (in time). He has his head screwed firmly on. http://pmd.fan590.co m/audio_on_demand-3/ Ralph-Krueger-with-T im-Micallef-and-Sid- Seixeiro--PTS--20140 317-Interview.mp3
good post but the club already has a director of football, les Reed. he was on the footballers football show last week on sky where they introduced him with that tittle, and put his name and tittle on screen at various points.
I saw the show with Les Reed on it, he said that loaning out didn't work for Saints youngster then loaned 2 players out. I posted the director of football comment because Ralph Krueger says about it in the interview, I don't know who or to what position within the Club this person will be recruited too, but Krueger says he will be recruited. Personally I hope its not a replacement for Les Reed, who to me is a football genius, especially when working, spotting youngsters.
Les was appointed as head of football development and support in 2010. he is now on the board as an executive director, so have they changed his job tittle or are they bringing in someone else? he never corrected sky so my guess, and it is just a guess, is that he has had his job tittle/description/d uties changed. we will just have to wait and see. one thing for sure is that Les has (or did) have lots of power/duties/influen ce over the club, his original job description was head of football development and support, overseeing four main areas: the youth academy, scouting and recruitment, sports medicine and science, and kit and equipment management. with all those duties he must be a busy man, and I notice he was in charge of the kit and so must be responsible for the current design. lots of fans don't like the kit, I don't mind it and have both home and away, and blamed NC for it. NC would have had the final say but it must have been Les who dealt with adidas. I too hope that Les isn't replaced he talked a lot of sense on the tv, he did say that loaning players doesn't work for saints, but didn't he say that about players who are expected to play a part in the first team in the future? I think he was open to loans but for players who might not make the grade for us. his main points were that we are not here to produce players for the lower leagues (like chelski and mancy and others do) so why would we want our kids playing in those leagues, not being under the eye of our coaches, which he believes are the best, and not learning our system at our excellent academy.
I take on board what you've said regarding Les Reed however it was NC who was responsible for the kit change and colour selection, he hated red and white stripes and the colour red in general, I have it on good authority that he wanted Saints in to play home games in Black shirts and white shorts. NC dealt with Adidas as per all contracts player and the commercial side of the Club, even though the club had managers in place for such tasks, he fired shop staff himself, he walked in to the shop and told 2 members of staff to leave, handed them a months money in a cheque and told them to sue the Club if they wanted too for unfair dismissal, their crime was in his word Your'e too old to work here, he replaced them with dolly birds. He ruled by fear, no one would say anything against him, don't get me wrong I have nothing against NC or any axe to grind with him, as a businessman he was ruthless, his management skills were nil and void however things on the pitch worked whilst he was here and that's all that matters to me. Friends working at the Club now are much happier with Ralph and Katarinia as their approach is very much different.
For someone that hated the colour red he did a pretty sh1t job at getting rid of it.
I have heard a lot of rumours about NC and there are a lot more urban myths about him, I have not though ever heard that he hated red and white stripes or the colour red in particular. if he did hate the stripes or the colour red then he would have had the perfect opportunity to change the shirt after the 125 anniversary red sash shirt. he didn't, in fact we went back to the stripes (and one of our best shirts IMO) for the championship season, we then had the red with white pinstripe home and white with red away for the first season back in the prem. this seasons shirt is almost all red, if he hated red he would never have sanctioned that shirt would he?
NC had the final say on all of the important decisions, as would any boss, but why would he/ML employ Les Reed and give him managerial control over those decisions if he would have nothing to do with it? furthermore why would LR take on the tittle or the job he no input?
as for NC`s `control freak` style of management or his demeanour with the staff that's been done to death, however I can only go on what I`ve been told personally by someone I know who works at sms, I don't know her that well and she has no reason to lie to me but she has always said that NC was a fair and decent boss, I don't think she ever had got on the wrong side of him though. I don't know the story about the shop staff but I don't think there is anyway NC would be allowed to treat staff like that, there are plenty of employment laws (thanks to big smile blair and his cronies) and even the biggest saints fan would consider a law suit.
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: Every Saints fan should listen to this interview with Ralph Krueger on Canadian radio this week. The Club are bringing in a Director of Football, also they have interviews with 3 major sponsors who want to pump prime the Club to the Champions League places (in time). He has his head screwed firmly on. http://pmd.fan590.co m/audio_on_demand-3/ Ralph-Krueger-with-T im-Micallef-and-Sid- Seixeiro--PTS--20140 317-Interview.mp3[/p][/quote]good post but the club already has a director of football, les Reed. he was on the footballers football show last week on sky where they introduced him with that tittle, and put his name and tittle on screen at various points.[/p][/quote]I saw the show with Les Reed on it, he said that loaning out didn't work for Saints youngster then loaned 2 players out. I posted the director of football comment because Ralph Krueger says about it in the interview, I don't know who or to what position within the Club this person will be recruited too, but Krueger says he will be recruited. Personally I hope its not a replacement for Les Reed, who to me is a football genius, especially when working, spotting youngsters.[/p][/quote]Les was appointed as head of football development and support in 2010. he is now on the board as an executive director, so have they changed his job tittle or are they bringing in someone else? he never corrected sky so my guess, and it is just a guess, is that he has had his job tittle/description/d uties changed. we will just have to wait and see. one thing for sure is that Les has (or did) have lots of power/duties/influen ce over the club, his original job description was head of football development and support, overseeing four main areas: the youth academy, scouting and recruitment, sports medicine and science, and kit and equipment management. with all those duties he must be a busy man, and I notice he was in charge of the kit and so must be responsible for the current design. lots of fans don't like the kit, I don't mind it and have both home and away, and blamed NC for it. NC would have had the final say but it must have been Les who dealt with adidas. I too hope that Les isn't replaced he talked a lot of sense on the tv, he did say that loaning players doesn't work for saints, but didn't he say that about players who are expected to play a part in the first team in the future? I think he was open to loans but for players who might not make the grade for us. his main points were that we are not here to produce players for the lower leagues (like chelski and mancy and others do) so why would we want our kids playing in those leagues, not being under the eye of our coaches, which he believes are the best, and not learning our system at our excellent academy.[/p][/quote]I take on board what you've said regarding Les Reed however it was NC who was responsible for the kit change and colour selection, he hated red and white stripes and the colour red in general, I have it on good authority that he wanted Saints in to play home games in Black shirts and white shorts. NC dealt with Adidas as per all contracts player and the commercial side of the Club, even though the club had managers in place for such tasks, he fired shop staff himself, he walked in to the shop and told 2 members of staff to leave, handed them a months money in a cheque and told them to sue the Club if they wanted too for unfair dismissal, their crime was in his word Your'e too old to work here, he replaced them with dolly birds. He ruled by fear, no one would say anything against him, don't get me wrong I have nothing against NC or any axe to grind with him, as a businessman he was ruthless, his management skills were nil and void however things on the pitch worked whilst he was here and that's all that matters to me. Friends working at the Club now are much happier with Ralph and Katarinia as their approach is very much different.[/p][/quote]For someone that hated the colour red he did a pretty sh1t job at getting rid of it.[/p][/quote]I have heard a lot of rumours about NC and there are a lot more urban myths about him, I have not though ever heard that he hated red and white stripes or the colour red in particular. if he did hate the stripes or the colour red then he would have had the perfect opportunity to change the shirt after the 125 anniversary red sash shirt. he didn't, in fact we went back to the stripes (and one of our best shirts IMO) for the championship season, we then had the red with white pinstripe home and white with red away for the first season back in the prem. this seasons shirt is almost all red, if he hated red he would never have sanctioned that shirt would he? NC had the final say on all of the important decisions, as would any boss, but why would he/ML employ Les Reed and give him managerial control over those decisions if he would have nothing to do with it? furthermore why would LR take on the tittle or the job he no input? as for NC`s `control freak` style of management or his demeanour with the staff that's been done to death, however I can only go on what I`ve been told personally by someone I know who works at sms, I don't know her that well and she has no reason to lie to me but she has always said that NC was a fair and decent boss, I don't think she ever had got on the wrong side of him though. I don't know the story about the shop staff but I don't think there is anyway NC would be allowed to treat staff like that, there are plenty of employment laws (thanks to big smile blair and his cronies) and even the biggest saints fan would consider a law suit. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 3

4:22pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Santa Retfordia says...

Outside of the Box wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
Outside of the Box wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Outside of the Box wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Outside of the Box wrote: Every Saints fan should listen to this interview with Ralph Krueger on Canadian radio this week. The Club are bringing in a Director of Football, also they have interviews with 3 major sponsors who want to pump prime the Club to the Champions League places (in time). He has his head screwed firmly on. http://pmd.fan590.co m/audio_on_demand-3/ Ralph-Krueger-with-T im-Micallef-and-Sid- Seixeiro--PTS--20140 317-Interview.mp3
good post but the club already has a director of football, les Reed. he was on the footballers football show last week on sky where they introduced him with that tittle, and put his name and tittle on screen at various points.
I saw the show with Les Reed on it, he said that loaning out didn't work for Saints youngster then loaned 2 players out. I posted the director of football comment because Ralph Krueger says about it in the interview, I don't know who or to what position within the Club this person will be recruited too, but Krueger says he will be recruited. Personally I hope its not a replacement for Les Reed, who to me is a football genius, especially when working, spotting youngsters.
Les was appointed as head of football development and support in 2010. he is now on the board as an executive director, so have they changed his job tittle or are they bringing in someone else? he never corrected sky so my guess, and it is just a guess, is that he has had his job tittle/description/d uties changed. we will just have to wait and see. one thing for sure is that Les has (or did) have lots of power/duties/influen ce over the club, his original job description was head of football development and support, overseeing four main areas: the youth academy, scouting and recruitment, sports medicine and science, and kit and equipment management. with all those duties he must be a busy man, and I notice he was in charge of the kit and so must be responsible for the current design. lots of fans don't like the kit, I don't mind it and have both home and away, and blamed NC for it. NC would have had the final say but it must have been Les who dealt with adidas. I too hope that Les isn't replaced he talked a lot of sense on the tv, he did say that loaning players doesn't work for saints, but didn't he say that about players who are expected to play a part in the first team in the future? I think he was open to loans but for players who might not make the grade for us. his main points were that we are not here to produce players for the lower leagues (like chelski and mancy and others do) so why would we want our kids playing in those leagues, not being under the eye of our coaches, which he believes are the best, and not learning our system at our excellent academy.
I take on board what you've said regarding Les Reed however it was NC who was responsible for the kit change and colour selection, he hated red and white stripes and the colour red in general, I have it on good authority that he wanted Saints in to play home games in Black shirts and white shorts. NC dealt with Adidas as per all contracts player and the commercial side of the Club, even though the club had managers in place for such tasks, he fired shop staff himself, he walked in to the shop and told 2 members of staff to leave, handed them a months money in a cheque and told them to sue the Club if they wanted too for unfair dismissal, their crime was in his word Your'e too old to work here, he replaced them with dolly birds. He ruled by fear, no one would say anything against him, don't get me wrong I have nothing against NC or any axe to grind with him, as a businessman he was ruthless, his management skills were nil and void however things on the pitch worked whilst he was here and that's all that matters to me. Friends working at the Club now are much happier with Ralph and Katarinia as their approach is very much different.
For someone that hated the colour red he did a pretty sh1t job at getting rid of it.
He applied to the FA to change but they refused to change the colour.
I have no proof either way, but that sounds like boll0cks to me.
[quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: Every Saints fan should listen to this interview with Ralph Krueger on Canadian radio this week. The Club are bringing in a Director of Football, also they have interviews with 3 major sponsors who want to pump prime the Club to the Champions League places (in time). He has his head screwed firmly on. http://pmd.fan590.co m/audio_on_demand-3/ Ralph-Krueger-with-T im-Micallef-and-Sid- Seixeiro--PTS--20140 317-Interview.mp3[/p][/quote]good post but the club already has a director of football, les Reed. he was on the footballers football show last week on sky where they introduced him with that tittle, and put his name and tittle on screen at various points.[/p][/quote]I saw the show with Les Reed on it, he said that loaning out didn't work for Saints youngster then loaned 2 players out. I posted the director of football comment because Ralph Krueger says about it in the interview, I don't know who or to what position within the Club this person will be recruited too, but Krueger says he will be recruited. Personally I hope its not a replacement for Les Reed, who to me is a football genius, especially when working, spotting youngsters.[/p][/quote]Les was appointed as head of football development and support in 2010. he is now on the board as an executive director, so have they changed his job tittle or are they bringing in someone else? he never corrected sky so my guess, and it is just a guess, is that he has had his job tittle/description/d uties changed. we will just have to wait and see. one thing for sure is that Les has (or did) have lots of power/duties/influen ce over the club, his original job description was head of football development and support, overseeing four main areas: the youth academy, scouting and recruitment, sports medicine and science, and kit and equipment management. with all those duties he must be a busy man, and I notice he was in charge of the kit and so must be responsible for the current design. lots of fans don't like the kit, I don't mind it and have both home and away, and blamed NC for it. NC would have had the final say but it must have been Les who dealt with adidas. I too hope that Les isn't replaced he talked a lot of sense on the tv, he did say that loaning players doesn't work for saints, but didn't he say that about players who are expected to play a part in the first team in the future? I think he was open to loans but for players who might not make the grade for us. his main points were that we are not here to produce players for the lower leagues (like chelski and mancy and others do) so why would we want our kids playing in those leagues, not being under the eye of our coaches, which he believes are the best, and not learning our system at our excellent academy.[/p][/quote]I take on board what you've said regarding Les Reed however it was NC who was responsible for the kit change and colour selection, he hated red and white stripes and the colour red in general, I have it on good authority that he wanted Saints in to play home games in Black shirts and white shorts. NC dealt with Adidas as per all contracts player and the commercial side of the Club, even though the club had managers in place for such tasks, he fired shop staff himself, he walked in to the shop and told 2 members of staff to leave, handed them a months money in a cheque and told them to sue the Club if they wanted too for unfair dismissal, their crime was in his word Your'e too old to work here, he replaced them with dolly birds. He ruled by fear, no one would say anything against him, don't get me wrong I have nothing against NC or any axe to grind with him, as a businessman he was ruthless, his management skills were nil and void however things on the pitch worked whilst he was here and that's all that matters to me. Friends working at the Club now are much happier with Ralph and Katarinia as their approach is very much different.[/p][/quote]For someone that hated the colour red he did a pretty sh1t job at getting rid of it.[/p][/quote]He applied to the FA to change but they refused to change the colour.[/p][/quote]I have no proof either way, but that sounds like boll0cks to me. Santa Retfordia
  • Score: 4

4:44pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Anyway,never mind all that,beer is going down...anyone for a pint?
That's made me a tad thirsty. Any time beer is going down, I'm in.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: Anyway,never mind all that,beer is going down...anyone for a pint?[/p][/quote]That's made me a tad thirsty. Any time beer is going down, I'm in. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 1

4:47pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Santa Retfordia says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Anyway,never mind all that,beer is going down...anyone for a pint?
That's made me a tad thirsty. Any time beer is going down, I'm in.
Tax on bingo is also being cut. It's as though Le Tiss himself has written the budget.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: Anyway,never mind all that,beer is going down...anyone for a pint?[/p][/quote]That's made me a tad thirsty. Any time beer is going down, I'm in.[/p][/quote]Tax on bingo is also being cut. It's as though Le Tiss himself has written the budget. Santa Retfordia
  • Score: 0

4:50pm Wed 19 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Anyway,never mind all that,beer is going down...anyone for a pint?
That's made me a tad thirsty. Any time beer is going down, I'm in.
Just got to find a pub that hasn't been demolished for a car park or turned into Supermarket.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: Anyway,never mind all that,beer is going down...anyone for a pint?[/p][/quote]That's made me a tad thirsty. Any time beer is going down, I'm in.[/p][/quote]Just got to find a pub that hasn't been demolished for a car park or turned into Supermarket. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

4:53pm Wed 19 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Outside of the Box wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
Outside of the Box wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Outside of the Box wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Outside of the Box wrote: Every Saints fan should listen to this interview with Ralph Krueger on Canadian radio this week. The Club are bringing in a Director of Football, also they have interviews with 3 major sponsors who want to pump prime the Club to the Champions League places (in time). He has his head screwed firmly on. http://pmd.fan590.co m/audio_on_demand-3/ Ralph-Krueger-with-T im-Micallef-and-Sid- Seixeiro--PTS--20140 317-Interview.mp3
good post but the club already has a director of football, les Reed. he was on the footballers football show last week on sky where they introduced him with that tittle, and put his name and tittle on screen at various points.
I saw the show with Les Reed on it, he said that loaning out didn't work for Saints youngster then loaned 2 players out. I posted the director of football comment because Ralph Krueger says about it in the interview, I don't know who or to what position within the Club this person will be recruited too, but Krueger says he will be recruited. Personally I hope its not a replacement for Les Reed, who to me is a football genius, especially when working, spotting youngsters.
Les was appointed as head of football development and support in 2010. he is now on the board as an executive director, so have they changed his job tittle or are they bringing in someone else? he never corrected sky so my guess, and it is just a guess, is that he has had his job tittle/description/d uties changed. we will just have to wait and see. one thing for sure is that Les has (or did) have lots of power/duties/influen ce over the club, his original job description was head of football development and support, overseeing four main areas: the youth academy, scouting and recruitment, sports medicine and science, and kit and equipment management. with all those duties he must be a busy man, and I notice he was in charge of the kit and so must be responsible for the current design. lots of fans don't like the kit, I don't mind it and have both home and away, and blamed NC for it. NC would have had the final say but it must have been Les who dealt with adidas. I too hope that Les isn't replaced he talked a lot of sense on the tv, he did say that loaning players doesn't work for saints, but didn't he say that about players who are expected to play a part in the first team in the future? I think he was open to loans but for players who might not make the grade for us. his main points were that we are not here to produce players for the lower leagues (like chelski and mancy and others do) so why would we want our kids playing in those leagues, not being under the eye of our coaches, which he believes are the best, and not learning our system at our excellent academy.
I take on board what you've said regarding Les Reed however it was NC who was responsible for the kit change and colour selection, he hated red and white stripes and the colour red in general, I have it on good authority that he wanted Saints in to play home games in Black shirts and white shorts. NC dealt with Adidas as per all contracts player and the commercial side of the Club, even though the club had managers in place for such tasks, he fired shop staff himself, he walked in to the shop and told 2 members of staff to leave, handed them a months money in a cheque and told them to sue the Club if they wanted too for unfair dismissal, their crime was in his word Your'e too old to work here, he replaced them with dolly birds. He ruled by fear, no one would say anything against him, don't get me wrong I have nothing against NC or any axe to grind with him, as a businessman he was ruthless, his management skills were nil and void however things on the pitch worked whilst he was here and that's all that matters to me. Friends working at the Club now are much happier with Ralph and Katarinia as their approach is very much different.
For someone that hated the colour red he did a pretty sh1t job at getting rid of it.
He applied to the FA to change but they refused to change the colour.
Worked for Cardiff.
[quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: Every Saints fan should listen to this interview with Ralph Krueger on Canadian radio this week. The Club are bringing in a Director of Football, also they have interviews with 3 major sponsors who want to pump prime the Club to the Champions League places (in time). He has his head screwed firmly on. http://pmd.fan590.co m/audio_on_demand-3/ Ralph-Krueger-with-T im-Micallef-and-Sid- Seixeiro--PTS--20140 317-Interview.mp3[/p][/quote]good post but the club already has a director of football, les Reed. he was on the footballers football show last week on sky where they introduced him with that tittle, and put his name and tittle on screen at various points.[/p][/quote]I saw the show with Les Reed on it, he said that loaning out didn't work for Saints youngster then loaned 2 players out. I posted the director of football comment because Ralph Krueger says about it in the interview, I don't know who or to what position within the Club this person will be recruited too, but Krueger says he will be recruited. Personally I hope its not a replacement for Les Reed, who to me is a football genius, especially when working, spotting youngsters.[/p][/quote]Les was appointed as head of football development and support in 2010. he is now on the board as an executive director, so have they changed his job tittle or are they bringing in someone else? he never corrected sky so my guess, and it is just a guess, is that he has had his job tittle/description/d uties changed. we will just have to wait and see. one thing for sure is that Les has (or did) have lots of power/duties/influen ce over the club, his original job description was head of football development and support, overseeing four main areas: the youth academy, scouting and recruitment, sports medicine and science, and kit and equipment management. with all those duties he must be a busy man, and I notice he was in charge of the kit and so must be responsible for the current design. lots of fans don't like the kit, I don't mind it and have both home and away, and blamed NC for it. NC would have had the final say but it must have been Les who dealt with adidas. I too hope that Les isn't replaced he talked a lot of sense on the tv, he did say that loaning players doesn't work for saints, but didn't he say that about players who are expected to play a part in the first team in the future? I think he was open to loans but for players who might not make the grade for us. his main points were that we are not here to produce players for the lower leagues (like chelski and mancy and others do) so why would we want our kids playing in those leagues, not being under the eye of our coaches, which he believes are the best, and not learning our system at our excellent academy.[/p][/quote]I take on board what you've said regarding Les Reed however it was NC who was responsible for the kit change and colour selection, he hated red and white stripes and the colour red in general, I have it on good authority that he wanted Saints in to play home games in Black shirts and white shorts. NC dealt with Adidas as per all contracts player and the commercial side of the Club, even though the club had managers in place for such tasks, he fired shop staff himself, he walked in to the shop and told 2 members of staff to leave, handed them a months money in a cheque and told them to sue the Club if they wanted too for unfair dismissal, their crime was in his word Your'e too old to work here, he replaced them with dolly birds. He ruled by fear, no one would say anything against him, don't get me wrong I have nothing against NC or any axe to grind with him, as a businessman he was ruthless, his management skills were nil and void however things on the pitch worked whilst he was here and that's all that matters to me. Friends working at the Club now are much happier with Ralph and Katarinia as their approach is very much different.[/p][/quote]For someone that hated the colour red he did a pretty sh1t job at getting rid of it.[/p][/quote]He applied to the FA to change but they refused to change the colour.[/p][/quote]Worked for Cardiff. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

4:59pm Wed 19 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Outside of the Box wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Outside of the Box wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Outside of the Box wrote:
Every Saints fan should listen to this interview with Ralph Krueger on Canadian radio this week. The Club are bringing in a Director of Football, also they have interviews with 3 major sponsors who want to pump prime the Club to the Champions League places (in time). He has his head screwed firmly on.

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good post but the club already has a director of football, les Reed. he was on the footballers football show last week on sky where they introduced him with that tittle, and put his name and tittle on screen at various points.
I saw the show with Les Reed on it, he said that loaning out didn't work for Saints youngster then loaned 2 players out.

I posted the director of football comment because Ralph Krueger says about it in the interview, I don't know who or to what position within the Club this person will be recruited too, but Krueger says he will be recruited.

Personally I hope its not a replacement for Les Reed, who to me is a football genius, especially when working, spotting youngsters.
Les was appointed as head of football development and support in 2010. he is now on the board as an executive director, so have they changed his job tittle or are they bringing in someone else? he never corrected sky so my guess, and it is just a guess, is that he has had his job tittle/description/d


uties changed. we will just have to wait and see.
one thing for sure is that Les has (or did) have lots of power/duties/influen


ce over the club, his original job description was head of football development and support, overseeing four main areas: the youth academy, scouting and recruitment, sports medicine and science, and kit and equipment management.
with all those duties he must be a busy man, and I notice he was in charge of the kit and so must be responsible for the current design. lots of fans don't like the kit, I don't mind it and have both home and away, and blamed NC for it. NC would have had the final say but it must have been Les who dealt with adidas.
I too hope that Les isn't replaced he talked a lot of sense on the tv, he did say that loaning players doesn't work for saints, but didn't he say that about players who are expected to play a part in the first team in the future? I think he was open to loans but for players who might not make the grade for us. his main points were that we are not here to produce players for the lower leagues (like chelski and mancy and others do) so why would we want our kids playing in those leagues, not being under the eye of our coaches, which he believes are the best, and not learning our system at our excellent academy.
I take on board what you've said regarding Les Reed however it was NC who was responsible for the kit change and colour selection, he hated red and white stripes and the colour red in general, I have it on good authority that he wanted Saints in to play home games in Black shirts and white shorts.

NC dealt with Adidas as per all contracts player and the commercial side of the Club, even though the club had managers in place for such tasks, he fired shop staff himself, he walked in to the shop and told 2 members of staff to leave, handed them a months money in a cheque and told them to sue the Club if they wanted too for unfair dismissal, their crime was in his word Your'e too old to work here, he replaced them with dolly birds.

He ruled by fear, no one would say anything against him, don't get me wrong I have nothing against NC or any axe to grind with him, as a businessman he was ruthless, his management skills were nil and void however things on the pitch worked whilst he was here and that's all that matters to me. Friends working at the Club now are much happier with Ralph and Katarinia as their approach is very much different.
Sound a bit libellious to me I hope you have all the proof you need should the wrong people spot this and decide to prosecute.
[quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: Every Saints fan should listen to this interview with Ralph Krueger on Canadian radio this week. The Club are bringing in a Director of Football, also they have interviews with 3 major sponsors who want to pump prime the Club to the Champions League places (in time). He has his head screwed firmly on. http://pmd.fan590.co m/audio_on_demand-3/ Ralph-Krueger-with-T im-Micallef-and-Sid- Seixeiro--PTS--20140 317-Interview.mp3[/p][/quote]good post but the club already has a director of football, les Reed. he was on the footballers football show last week on sky where they introduced him with that tittle, and put his name and tittle on screen at various points.[/p][/quote]I saw the show with Les Reed on it, he said that loaning out didn't work for Saints youngster then loaned 2 players out. I posted the director of football comment because Ralph Krueger says about it in the interview, I don't know who or to what position within the Club this person will be recruited too, but Krueger says he will be recruited. Personally I hope its not a replacement for Les Reed, who to me is a football genius, especially when working, spotting youngsters.[/p][/quote]Les was appointed as head of football development and support in 2010. he is now on the board as an executive director, so have they changed his job tittle or are they bringing in someone else? he never corrected sky so my guess, and it is just a guess, is that he has had his job tittle/description/d uties changed. we will just have to wait and see. one thing for sure is that Les has (or did) have lots of power/duties/influen ce over the club, his original job description was head of football development and support, overseeing four main areas: the youth academy, scouting and recruitment, sports medicine and science, and kit and equipment management. with all those duties he must be a busy man, and I notice he was in charge of the kit and so must be responsible for the current design. lots of fans don't like the kit, I don't mind it and have both home and away, and blamed NC for it. NC would have had the final say but it must have been Les who dealt with adidas. I too hope that Les isn't replaced he talked a lot of sense on the tv, he did say that loaning players doesn't work for saints, but didn't he say that about players who are expected to play a part in the first team in the future? I think he was open to loans but for players who might not make the grade for us. his main points were that we are not here to produce players for the lower leagues (like chelski and mancy and others do) so why would we want our kids playing in those leagues, not being under the eye of our coaches, which he believes are the best, and not learning our system at our excellent academy.[/p][/quote]I take on board what you've said regarding Les Reed however it was NC who was responsible for the kit change and colour selection, he hated red and white stripes and the colour red in general, I have it on good authority that he wanted Saints in to play home games in Black shirts and white shorts. NC dealt with Adidas as per all contracts player and the commercial side of the Club, even though the club had managers in place for such tasks, he fired shop staff himself, he walked in to the shop and told 2 members of staff to leave, handed them a months money in a cheque and told them to sue the Club if they wanted too for unfair dismissal, their crime was in his word Your'e too old to work here, he replaced them with dolly birds. He ruled by fear, no one would say anything against him, don't get me wrong I have nothing against NC or any axe to grind with him, as a businessman he was ruthless, his management skills were nil and void however things on the pitch worked whilst he was here and that's all that matters to me. Friends working at the Club now are much happier with Ralph and Katarinia as their approach is very much different.[/p][/quote]Sound a bit libellious to me I hope you have all the proof you need should the wrong people spot this and decide to prosecute. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

5:02pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Costa Baz says...

The king is dead, long live the king.

Krueger has been in his role for barely 2 weeks. Give the guy a chance to get his feet under the table and judge him on what he does or doesn't bring to the role, not by disecting his every comment, reading between the lines or by having knee jerk reactions.
So he hasn't spoken about qualifying for the Champions League, but then, I'm not sure Cortese did, in his second week in the job. Sure, Cortese had a vision, and like most others, I bought into his vision, but let's judge the new guy and Katharina on what happens between now and the start of next season, by which time we should have a clearer idea of which direction the two Ks will be taking us.
I wonder if the Canadian ice hockey fans went off on one, every time he gave an interview, without mentioning his intention to win the Olympic gold medal?
The king is dead, long live the king. Krueger has been in his role for barely 2 weeks. Give the guy a chance to get his feet under the table and judge him on what he does or doesn't bring to the role, not by disecting his every comment, reading between the lines or by having knee jerk reactions. So he hasn't spoken about qualifying for the Champions League, but then, I'm not sure Cortese did, in his second week in the job. Sure, Cortese had a vision, and like most others, I bought into his vision, but let's judge the new guy and Katharina on what happens between now and the start of next season, by which time we should have a clearer idea of which direction the two Ks will be taking us. I wonder if the Canadian ice hockey fans went off on one, every time he gave an interview, without mentioning his intention to win the Olympic gold medal? Costa Baz
  • Score: 7

5:06pm Wed 19 Mar 14

saintbobby says...

Stroppy_gramps wrote:
I miss The Don, I quite liked how he just wasn't interested in playing with the media.

But I also like this approach by Freddy, he is clearly well coached on dealing with the media and is certainly an interesting change.
Agree with all this.

Everyone acknowledges much credit is due to NC, but being a nosy bu££er I like to know what is going on and plans etc, within reason, of course.

NC was not the best for this. Not a criticism, just an observation.

Up the Saints!
[quote][p][bold]Stroppy_gramps[/bold] wrote: I miss The Don, I quite liked how he just wasn't interested in playing with the media. But I also like this approach by Freddy, he is clearly well coached on dealing with the media and is certainly an interesting change.[/p][/quote]Agree with all this. Everyone acknowledges much credit is due to NC, but being a nosy bu££er I like to know what is going on and plans etc, within reason, of course. NC was not the best for this. Not a criticism, just an observation. Up the Saints! saintbobby
  • Score: 0

5:32pm Wed 19 Mar 14

lowe esteem says...

Outside of the Box wrote:
lowe esteem wrote:
Outside of the Box wrote:
killared wrote:
What Krueger need to do first is to increase the capacity of the stadium I mean Saint is the biggest club in the south after all !
We may be the biggest Club on the South Coast/South of London but I can't see that happening until every game is sold out and a waiting list appears for season tickets.

What purpose does expanding the stadia serve when its not sold out for every home game. Spending money on stadia that is not sold out is not good business at all, wait until we hit the SOLD OUT for every game then expand.

I can see more use of the stadia, I expect concert in the summer months to be regular thing, again increasing the turnover of the Club/Stadia in the quieter months.
You're talking narrowly about pennies, think it through.
The club will know there are small holes in the dam, and these will be plugged, but look at the bigger picture.
Also, try and use some punctuation, question marks etc if you want to be taken seriously. Would of/Could of makes no sense. What you have heard is could've (abbreviation of could have) and would've (short for would have).
Don't tell everyone where you learnt this, though, it's a good way of skunt spotting.
WTF are you on about?
Spell it out time:
1) (Nearly) Filling the ground is not the best way of collecting income. But it helps in creating more local interest.
2) A bigger stadium can be easily filled, move onto the additional revenue streams. Bigger Picture? Your telly, satellite, further afield?
3) The rest of it is understandably outside of your learning range at the moment. Hopefully this will develop with your schooling. Good luck.
[quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lowe esteem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: What Krueger need to do first is to increase the capacity of the stadium I mean Saint is the biggest club in the south after all ![/p][/quote]We may be the biggest Club on the South Coast/South of London but I can't see that happening until every game is sold out and a waiting list appears for season tickets. What purpose does expanding the stadia serve when its not sold out for every home game. Spending money on stadia that is not sold out is not good business at all, wait until we hit the SOLD OUT for every game then expand. I can see more use of the stadia, I expect concert in the summer months to be regular thing, again increasing the turnover of the Club/Stadia in the quieter months.[/p][/quote]You're talking narrowly about pennies, think it through. The club will know there are small holes in the dam, and these will be plugged, but look at the bigger picture. Also, try and use some punctuation, question marks etc if you want to be taken seriously. Would of/Could of makes no sense. What you have heard is could've (abbreviation of could have) and would've (short for would have). Don't tell everyone where you learnt this, though, it's a good way of skunt spotting.[/p][/quote]WTF are you on about?[/p][/quote]Spell it out time: 1) (Nearly) Filling the ground is not the best way of collecting income. But it helps in creating more local interest. 2) A bigger stadium can be easily filled, move onto the additional revenue streams. Bigger Picture? Your telly, satellite, further afield? 3) The rest of it is understandably outside of your learning range at the moment. Hopefully this will develop with your schooling. Good luck. lowe esteem
  • Score: -2

5:33pm Wed 19 Mar 14

The Inbetweener says...

Rickie&Adz14 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.
Completely agree! One thing that has been repeated over and over is that Krueger is a self proclaimed 'realist'...

Cortese was not! He dared to dream and dare I say it that is the key reason we have stunned the footballing world with our dramatic rise to the (near) top!

Unfortunately, unless Krueger is smarter than I'm giving him credit for, we might be about to see a very solid too 10 team being moulded, funded 'sensibly' by the sale of Shaw and Adz, with no expectation other than to stear clear of the bottom half troubles and perhaps challenge for the last spot in Europe every now and again....

I know this is a very negative way of looking at it...but the fact that Krueger is speaking about sense and being realistic does not suggest we will be challenging for the Champions League spots next year (as we all would have considered under Cortese)....

Peace Out x
RIckie&Adz14, please can you explain why we are going to sell Shaw & Adz to steer clear of bottom half of the table. I really think Adz will be our next Le Tiss and be a one man Club, I know his value has increased now he is an England player but he loves his life in Bournemouth and playing for Saints. Why didn't he look to get out when we were in League 1 and the Championship if he is driven by money?
Shaw is a different matter, I think he will jump ship if Mourinho wants to take him to Chelsea, but is he guaranteed to play every week like he is at Saints and he would benefit from another couple of seasons at SMS before taking the big money and running - just ask Theo who went to Arsenal too early.
[quote][p][bold]Rickie&Adz14[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.[/p][/quote]Completely agree! One thing that has been repeated over and over is that Krueger is a self proclaimed 'realist'... Cortese was not! He dared to dream and dare I say it that is the key reason we have stunned the footballing world with our dramatic rise to the (near) top! Unfortunately, unless Krueger is smarter than I'm giving him credit for, we might be about to see a very solid too 10 team being moulded, funded 'sensibly' by the sale of Shaw and Adz, with no expectation other than to stear clear of the bottom half troubles and perhaps challenge for the last spot in Europe every now and again.... I know this is a very negative way of looking at it...but the fact that Krueger is speaking about sense and being realistic does not suggest we will be challenging for the Champions League spots next year (as we all would have considered under Cortese).... Peace Out x[/p][/quote]RIckie&Adz14, please can you explain why we are going to sell Shaw & Adz to steer clear of bottom half of the table. I really think Adz will be our next Le Tiss and be a one man Club, I know his value has increased now he is an England player but he loves his life in Bournemouth and playing for Saints. Why didn't he look to get out when we were in League 1 and the Championship if he is driven by money? Shaw is a different matter, I think he will jump ship if Mourinho wants to take him to Chelsea, but is he guaranteed to play every week like he is at Saints and he would benefit from another couple of seasons at SMS before taking the big money and running - just ask Theo who went to Arsenal too early. The Inbetweener
  • Score: 4

7:10pm Wed 19 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

If the papers are to be believed and we are to become a selling club we are going to be a very wealthy club by the end of next July, in which case I will regard it as us sending our disciples out to spread the good word!
If the papers are to be believed and we are to become a selling club we are going to be a very wealthy club by the end of next July, in which case I will regard it as us sending our disciples out to spread the good word! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

7:19pm Wed 19 Mar 14

AdamG10 says...

right back in the bar wrote:
decent burgers, hotdogs, and beer. and cheerleaders - yes cheerleaders with big tits, long legs, and firm buttocks. Bring some of that North American razzamatazz to the club make it a family day out - something for everyone
Amen brother!
[quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: decent burgers, hotdogs, and beer. and cheerleaders - yes cheerleaders with big tits, long legs, and firm buttocks. Bring some of that North American razzamatazz to the club make it a family day out - something for everyone[/p][/quote]Amen brother! AdamG10
  • Score: 1

7:37pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Saintsayer II says...

Outside of the Box wrote:
Every Saints fan should listen to this interview with Ralph Krueger on Canadian radio this week. The Club are bringing in a Director of Football, also they have interviews with 3 major sponsors who want to pump prime the Club to the Champions League places (in time). He has his head screwed firmly on.

http://pmd.fan590.co

m/audio_on_demand-3/

Ralph-Krueger-with-T

im-Micallef-and-Sid-

Seixeiro--PTS--20140

317-Interview.mp3
This interview really is worth a listen I particularly enjoyed the bit about ''it maybe 2 3 or even 4 years before we are competeing for a CL place''

He is also definately into producing our own players

No guarantees that we won't sell some of them

Does anyone know about this forum of 500 fans he mentioned and that it is sold out?
[quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: Every Saints fan should listen to this interview with Ralph Krueger on Canadian radio this week. The Club are bringing in a Director of Football, also they have interviews with 3 major sponsors who want to pump prime the Club to the Champions League places (in time). He has his head screwed firmly on. http://pmd.fan590.co m/audio_on_demand-3/ Ralph-Krueger-with-T im-Micallef-and-Sid- Seixeiro--PTS--20140 317-Interview.mp3[/p][/quote]This interview really is worth a listen I particularly enjoyed the bit about ''it maybe 2 3 or even 4 years before we are competeing for a CL place'' He is also definately into producing our own players No guarantees that we won't sell some of them Does anyone know about this forum of 500 fans he mentioned and that it is sold out? Saintsayer II
  • Score: 2

7:53pm Wed 19 Mar 14

DisplacedFan says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
dockboy wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.
So Krueger was appointed whilst you where away.
What exactly does that mean, do you believe this was done deliberately, just in case you decided to block the appointment with the huge influence you have over the St. Marys faithful.
Get over yourself, I very much doubt if KL cared about your location when Krueger was appointed, nor does anyone else for that matter.
?
Missing the humour, I think.
Had a moment of wtf, lost the plot completely to be honest. I couldn't think of an anything amusing to respond with, I am not usually lost for words as you well know.
Was referring to Dockboy who clearly did not get the nuance in Seed's post.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dockboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.[/p][/quote]So Krueger was appointed whilst you where away. What exactly does that mean, do you believe this was done deliberately, just in case you decided to block the appointment with the huge influence you have over the St. Marys faithful. Get over yourself, I very much doubt if KL cared about your location when Krueger was appointed, nor does anyone else for that matter.[/p][/quote]?[/p][/quote]Missing the humour, I think.[/p][/quote]Had a moment of wtf, lost the plot completely to be honest. I couldn't think of an anything amusing to respond with, I am not usually lost for words as you well know.[/p][/quote]Was referring to Dockboy who clearly did not get the nuance in Seed's post. DisplacedFan
  • Score: 0

8:40pm Wed 19 Mar 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
Outside of the Box wrote:
Every Saints fan should listen to this interview with Ralph Krueger on Canadian radio this week. The Club are bringing in a Director of Football, also they have interviews with 3 major sponsors who want to pump prime the Club to the Champions League places (in time). He has his head screwed firmly on.

http://pmd.fan590.co


m/audio_on_demand-3/


Ralph-Krueger-with-T


im-Micallef-and-Sid-


Seixeiro--PTS--20140


317-Interview.mp3
This interview really is worth a listen I particularly enjoyed the bit about ''it maybe 2 3 or even 4 years before we are competeing for a CL place''

He is also definately into producing our own players

No guarantees that we won't sell some of them

Does anyone know about this forum of 500 fans he mentioned and that it is sold out?
is that `forum` the players awards dinner?
yes I think its a must listen as it gives a great insight into his appointment and the way he is going to run the club.
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: Every Saints fan should listen to this interview with Ralph Krueger on Canadian radio this week. The Club are bringing in a Director of Football, also they have interviews with 3 major sponsors who want to pump prime the Club to the Champions League places (in time). He has his head screwed firmly on. http://pmd.fan590.co m/audio_on_demand-3/ Ralph-Krueger-with-T im-Micallef-and-Sid- Seixeiro--PTS--20140 317-Interview.mp3[/p][/quote]This interview really is worth a listen I particularly enjoyed the bit about ''it maybe 2 3 or even 4 years before we are competeing for a CL place'' He is also definately into producing our own players No guarantees that we won't sell some of them Does anyone know about this forum of 500 fans he mentioned and that it is sold out?[/p][/quote]is that `forum` the players awards dinner? yes I think its a must listen as it gives a great insight into his appointment and the way he is going to run the club. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 1

9:59pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Santa Retfordia says...

I remember when Nicola first arrived the fans were a bit unsure as to his motives (I think some still are) but we judged him by results and he won pretty much everyone over. The same will be true of Ralph.

But what IF by 'sustainable' he's not referring to selling players but just managing expectations as to us buying, say, Gareth Bale back. It's easier and cheaper to keep the good players we've got than to build again from the top down so I wouldn't put my house on a player exodus. So we may get all this PLUS a much better focus on communication, and if that all comes off then we are all quite literally loving it.

As ever, though, fine words at the beginning are well enough, but time will tell what this new era is all about. It could, however, be the start of something even better.
I remember when Nicola first arrived the fans were a bit unsure as to his motives (I think some still are) but we judged him by results and he won pretty much everyone over. The same will be true of Ralph. But what IF by 'sustainable' he's not referring to selling players but just managing expectations as to us buying, say, Gareth Bale back. It's easier and cheaper to keep the good players we've got than to build again from the top down so I wouldn't put my house on a player exodus. So we may get all this PLUS a much better focus on communication, and if that all comes off then we are all quite literally loving it. As ever, though, fine words at the beginning are well enough, but time will tell what this new era is all about. It could, however, be the start of something even better. Santa Retfordia
  • Score: 4

10:17pm Wed 19 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

DisplacedFan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
dockboy wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.
So Krueger was appointed whilst you where away.
What exactly does that mean, do you believe this was done deliberately, just in case you decided to block the appointment with the huge influence you have over the St. Marys faithful.
Get over yourself, I very much doubt if KL cared about your location when Krueger was appointed, nor does anyone else for that matter.
?
Missing the humour, I think.
Had a moment of wtf, lost the plot completely to be honest. I couldn't think of an anything amusing to respond with, I am not usually lost for words as you well know.
Was referring to Dockboy who clearly did not get the nuance in Seed's post.
Wasn't Dockboy being sardonic too?
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dockboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.[/p][/quote]So Krueger was appointed whilst you where away. What exactly does that mean, do you believe this was done deliberately, just in case you decided to block the appointment with the huge influence you have over the St. Marys faithful. Get over yourself, I very much doubt if KL cared about your location when Krueger was appointed, nor does anyone else for that matter.[/p][/quote]?[/p][/quote]Missing the humour, I think.[/p][/quote]Had a moment of wtf, lost the plot completely to be honest. I couldn't think of an anything amusing to respond with, I am not usually lost for words as you well know.[/p][/quote]Was referring to Dockboy who clearly did not get the nuance in Seed's post.[/p][/quote]Wasn't Dockboy being sardonic too? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

10:55pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Clever Dick says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
I remember when Nicola first arrived the fans were a bit unsure as to his motives (I think some still are) but we judged him by results and he won pretty much everyone over. The same will be true of Ralph.

But what IF by 'sustainable' he's not referring to selling players but just managing expectations as to us buying, say, Gareth Bale back. It's easier and cheaper to keep the good players we've got than to build again from the top down so I wouldn't put my house on a player exodus. So we may get all this PLUS a much better focus on communication, and if that all comes off then we are all quite literally loving it.

As ever, though, fine words at the beginning are well enough, but time will tell what this new era is all about. It could, however, be the start of something even better.
In theory all clubs need to live within their means. I'd say we are in a much stronger position to do this than most other Prem clubs purely because of the numbers we have brought through the academy. Pretty much half of our side has cost us next to nothing. I think it is inevitable that some players will move on but given the fact that all the big clubs seem desperate to get them they are going to have to pay hefty premiums. That means plenty of money to sign replacements. We may just have to get used to the fact that there will be some new faces and some departures but it could also make for an exciting close season.
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: I remember when Nicola first arrived the fans were a bit unsure as to his motives (I think some still are) but we judged him by results and he won pretty much everyone over. The same will be true of Ralph. But what IF by 'sustainable' he's not referring to selling players but just managing expectations as to us buying, say, Gareth Bale back. It's easier and cheaper to keep the good players we've got than to build again from the top down so I wouldn't put my house on a player exodus. So we may get all this PLUS a much better focus on communication, and if that all comes off then we are all quite literally loving it. As ever, though, fine words at the beginning are well enough, but time will tell what this new era is all about. It could, however, be the start of something even better.[/p][/quote]In theory all clubs need to live within their means. I'd say we are in a much stronger position to do this than most other Prem clubs purely because of the numbers we have brought through the academy. Pretty much half of our side has cost us next to nothing. I think it is inevitable that some players will move on but given the fact that all the big clubs seem desperate to get them they are going to have to pay hefty premiums. That means plenty of money to sign replacements. We may just have to get used to the fact that there will be some new faces and some departures but it could also make for an exciting close season. Clever Dick
  • Score: 1

10:59pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Costa Baz wrote:
The king is dead, long live the king.

Krueger has been in his role for barely 2 weeks. Give the guy a chance to get his feet under the table and judge him on what he does or doesn't bring to the role, not by disecting his every comment, reading between the lines or by having knee jerk reactions.
So he hasn't spoken about qualifying for the Champions League, but then, I'm not sure Cortese did, in his second week in the job. Sure, Cortese had a vision, and like most others, I bought into his vision, but let's judge the new guy and Katharina on what happens between now and the start of next season, by which time we should have a clearer idea of which direction the two Ks will be taking us.
I wonder if the Canadian ice hockey fans went off on one, every time he gave an interview, without mentioning his intention to win the Olympic gold medal?
When Cortese was in his 2nd week we were waiting to start a League 1 season on -10 points. Kruegers 2nd week saw us 8th in the Prem following seasons of winning the Jpt, getting promoted, getting promoted and then surviving fairly comfortably in the Prem. He took over a totally different club/business with totally different aims and ambitions. Silly comparison.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: The king is dead, long live the king. Krueger has been in his role for barely 2 weeks. Give the guy a chance to get his feet under the table and judge him on what he does or doesn't bring to the role, not by disecting his every comment, reading between the lines or by having knee jerk reactions. So he hasn't spoken about qualifying for the Champions League, but then, I'm not sure Cortese did, in his second week in the job. Sure, Cortese had a vision, and like most others, I bought into his vision, but let's judge the new guy and Katharina on what happens between now and the start of next season, by which time we should have a clearer idea of which direction the two Ks will be taking us. I wonder if the Canadian ice hockey fans went off on one, every time he gave an interview, without mentioning his intention to win the Olympic gold medal?[/p][/quote]When Cortese was in his 2nd week we were waiting to start a League 1 season on -10 points. Kruegers 2nd week saw us 8th in the Prem following seasons of winning the Jpt, getting promoted, getting promoted and then surviving fairly comfortably in the Prem. He took over a totally different club/business with totally different aims and ambitions. Silly comparison. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 0

11:00pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Clever Dick says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
dockboy wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.
So Krueger was appointed whilst you where away.
What exactly does that mean, do you believe this was done deliberately, just in case you decided to block the appointment with the huge influence you have over the St. Marys faithful.
Get over yourself, I very much doubt if KL cared about your location when Krueger was appointed, nor does anyone else for that matter.
?
Missing the humour, I think.
Had a moment of wtf, lost the plot completely to be honest. I couldn't think of an anything amusing to respond with, I am not usually lost for words as you well know.
Was referring to Dockboy who clearly did not get the nuance in Seed's post.
Wasn't Dockboy being sardonic too?
No I think he was being sardinic........... oh no sorry I'm getting mixed up with our pet skunt posters!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dockboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.[/p][/quote]So Krueger was appointed whilst you where away. What exactly does that mean, do you believe this was done deliberately, just in case you decided to block the appointment with the huge influence you have over the St. Marys faithful. Get over yourself, I very much doubt if KL cared about your location when Krueger was appointed, nor does anyone else for that matter.[/p][/quote]?[/p][/quote]Missing the humour, I think.[/p][/quote]Had a moment of wtf, lost the plot completely to be honest. I couldn't think of an anything amusing to respond with, I am not usually lost for words as you well know.[/p][/quote]Was referring to Dockboy who clearly did not get the nuance in Seed's post.[/p][/quote]Wasn't Dockboy being sardonic too?[/p][/quote]No I think he was being sardinic........... oh no sorry I'm getting mixed up with our pet skunt posters! Clever Dick
  • Score: 2

11:36pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

dockboy wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.
So Krueger was appointed whilst you where away.
What exactly does that mean, do you believe this was done deliberately, just in case you decided to block the appointment with the huge influence you have over the St. Marys faithful.
Get over yourself, I very much doubt if KL cared about your location when Krueger was appointed, nor does anyone else for that matter.
Silly little skunt you know full well I meant that I was catching up with news that you had all known for a while longer.

Try commenting on the point of my post seeing negatives and huge positives in NC's reign and the hope that the new regime will keep the vision but with a human touch.

It's not my fault you have a tiny todger :o)
[quote][p][bold]dockboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Krueger was appointed whilst I was away. I knew he was going to be but I hadn't realised it was as head honcho so I was quite surprised by that. I like what he has been saying and the intention of being more open and engaging with the fans - an area that NC was appalling at. I am sure he will also prove to be a far better man manager, far more motivating and thereby getting the best out of people. However, for all his faults Cortese had a vision and was driven by it. He intended to take us to the Champions League and challenge for the title and nothing was going to get in his way. In many ways he was more ambitious than the fans. Now whether you believe he would have achieved it or not is irrelevant. The fact he was going for it was exciting and you certainly don't reach those heights by chance but by sheer hard work and determination. So whilst I like the things Krueger is saying I am still waiting to hear his commitment to the vision otherwise I fear he could just be a very competent manager who presides over a reasonably successful period in our history.[/p][/quote]So Krueger was appointed whilst you where away. What exactly does that mean, do you believe this was done deliberately, just in case you decided to block the appointment with the huge influence you have over the St. Marys faithful. Get over yourself, I very much doubt if KL cared about your location when Krueger was appointed, nor does anyone else for that matter.[/p][/quote]Silly little skunt you know full well I meant that I was catching up with news that you had all known for a while longer. Try commenting on the point of my post seeing negatives and huge positives in NC's reign and the hope that the new regime will keep the vision but with a human touch. It's not my fault you have a tiny todger :o) Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 6

12:26am Thu 20 Mar 14

SaintPhillip says...

Nicola Cortese was an outstanding CEO - he had a clear vision and the ability and determination to make it happen. Each year he invested appropriately to the level required to move the club to the next level. He may have been a pain in the **** for some people - but there is no doubting his special competence.

We are already hearing that the new CEO does not share the ambition to grow the club. That is short hand for not putting extra investment into the club. If the level of investment is not maintained to keep the club in the Top 8 - then we will quickly be back in the relegation fight.

The investment required to maintain growth is IRO £40m , on top of any income from sales - and that will keep you treading water. To get into the Top 6 requires £100-£200m

So we find out very quickly in we have a CEO who knows what he is doing - or someone who is will do as he is told by the new owner who may not be as committed as her Father.

If he is not ambitious then we will lose the players - who did believe in the ambition shown by Cortese.

In the Premier League you are either growing or dying - we will find out in the summer - so the choice will be ambitious and growing - or you are in relegation stakes - there is no static position.
Nicola Cortese was an outstanding CEO - he had a clear vision and the ability and determination to make it happen. Each year he invested appropriately to the level required to move the club to the next level. He may have been a pain in the **** for some people - but there is no doubting his special competence. We are already hearing that the new CEO does not share the ambition to grow the club. That is short hand for not putting extra investment into the club. If the level of investment is not maintained to keep the club in the Top 8 - then we will quickly be back in the relegation fight. The investment required to maintain growth is IRO £40m , on top of any income from sales - and that will keep you treading water. To get into the Top 6 requires £100-£200m So we find out very quickly in we have a CEO who knows what he is doing - or someone who is will do as he is told by the new owner who may not be as committed as her Father. If he is not ambitious then we will lose the players - who did believe in the ambition shown by Cortese. In the Premier League you are either growing or dying - we will find out in the summer - so the choice will be ambitious and growing - or you are in relegation stakes - there is no static position. SaintPhillip
  • Score: -3

1:19am Thu 20 Mar 14

arfer phesache says...

SaintPhillip wrote:
Nicola Cortese was an outstanding CEO - he had a clear vision and the ability and determination to make it happen. Each year he invested appropriately to the level required to move the club to the next level. He may have been a pain in the **** for some people - but there is no doubting his special competence.

We are already hearing that the new CEO does not share the ambition to grow the club. That is short hand for not putting extra investment into the club. If the level of investment is not maintained to keep the club in the Top 8 - then we will quickly be back in the relegation fight.

The investment required to maintain growth is IRO £40m , on top of any income from sales - and that will keep you treading water. To get into the Top 6 requires £100-£200m

So we find out very quickly in we have a CEO who knows what he is doing - or someone who is will do as he is told by the new owner who may not be as committed as her Father.

If he is not ambitious then we will lose the players - who did believe in the ambition shown by Cortese.

In the Premier League you are either growing or dying - we will find out in the summer - so the choice will be ambitious and growing - or you are in relegation stakes - there is no static position.
So! Just to reiterate, we may or may not be ambitious. And the "new" owner who watches, and attends most games, may not be as committed as her father .Relegation stakes.....Really!

What a load of old B0ll0x..........
[quote][p][bold]SaintPhillip[/bold] wrote: Nicola Cortese was an outstanding CEO - he had a clear vision and the ability and determination to make it happen. Each year he invested appropriately to the level required to move the club to the next level. He may have been a pain in the **** for some people - but there is no doubting his special competence. We are already hearing that the new CEO does not share the ambition to grow the club. That is short hand for not putting extra investment into the club. If the level of investment is not maintained to keep the club in the Top 8 - then we will quickly be back in the relegation fight. The investment required to maintain growth is IRO £40m , on top of any income from sales - and that will keep you treading water. To get into the Top 6 requires £100-£200m So we find out very quickly in we have a CEO who knows what he is doing - or someone who is will do as he is told by the new owner who may not be as committed as her Father. If he is not ambitious then we will lose the players - who did believe in the ambition shown by Cortese. In the Premier League you are either growing or dying - we will find out in the summer - so the choice will be ambitious and growing - or you are in relegation stakes - there is no static position.[/p][/quote]So! Just to reiterate, we may or may not be ambitious. And the "new" owner who watches, and attends most games, may not be as committed as her father .Relegation stakes.....Really! What a load of old B0ll0x.......... arfer phesache
  • Score: 3

9:15am Thu 20 Mar 14

Alicesdad says...

Never compare Krueger to Cortese.. they are different beasts altogether.
Cortese was organisationallly and financially highly skilled and moved in his world using a different population of contacts to the usual football hirearchy and a code of conduct that was his own. He was not so much secretive as pragmatic and protective of the club.. He knew every word he ever said would be interpreted and reinterpreted and sometimes misinterpreted. So he omly ever gave essential but clear messages.

Never EVER forget that Cortese brokered the purchase of the club for Marcus. God knows what wouldl have happend otherwise.

I think Krueger seems to be a lot more communicative but very often that doesn't mean things are any clearer for the fans. The new board level structure will show its mettle during the close season. Will we buy players? Will we keep Poch? Will we keep our young bloods? These will be the indicators of intention NOT some puffs in the press.

Its just too soon to call.

But both men are succesful.. and we havent heard the last of Cortese. Although I doubt he will be connected to SFC again. Other cllub owners know what he's capable of.

As for Krueger - he comes with a good reputation and he is clearly supported by the owner. Thats about as good as it can be for now isn't it?

So !! Onward !! Lets rattle Newcastle and Tottenham next and all have a good time .. it's the first day of spring so lets enjoy it.
Never compare Krueger to Cortese.. they are different beasts altogether. Cortese was organisationallly and financially highly skilled and moved in his world using a different population of contacts to the usual football hirearchy and a code of conduct that was his own. He was not so much secretive as pragmatic and protective of the club.. He knew every word he ever said would be interpreted and reinterpreted and sometimes misinterpreted. So he omly ever gave essential but clear messages. Never EVER forget that Cortese brokered the purchase of the club for Marcus. God knows what wouldl have happend otherwise. I think Krueger seems to be a lot more communicative but very often that doesn't mean things are any clearer for the fans. The new board level structure will show its mettle during the close season. Will we buy players? Will we keep Poch? Will we keep our young bloods? These will be the indicators of intention NOT some puffs in the press. Its just too soon to call. But both men are succesful.. and we havent heard the last of Cortese. Although I doubt he will be connected to SFC again. Other cllub owners know what he's capable of. As for Krueger - he comes with a good reputation and he is clearly supported by the owner. Thats about as good as it can be for now isn't it? So !! Onward !! Lets rattle Newcastle and Tottenham next and all have a good time .. it's the first day of spring so lets enjoy it. Alicesdad
  • Score: 1

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