Lallana almost on the plane to Brazil - but what about the other three Saints?

Basingstoke Gazette: The four Saints pictured on the England bench prior to last night's friendly The four Saints pictured on the England bench prior to last night's friendly

So where do the four Saints players in the England senior squad stand in terms of making Roy Hodgson's squad for Brazil.

Adam Leitch looks at the quartet's chances after last night's 1-0 friendly win over Denmark.

Adam Lallana.

In half an hour he proved just why he is pushing not only for an England squad place but a spot in the starting XI in Brazil.

Lallana was quite superb once again, including an assist for the goal, and is so unique a player that he surely only needs to stay fit and he is going to the World Cup.

His quick feet and even faster mind are proving as devastating for England as they have done for Saints.

Lallana is exciting the English footballing public and from nowhere just a year ago now looks like a potential star in Brazil.

Verdict: One foot on the plane .

Rickie Lambert.

Didn’t get any game time at Wembley last night but still in a strong position.

Roy Hodgson didn’t need to look at Lambert again as he knows exactly what he is capable of.

England will surely take a target man type striker to Brazil and with Andy Carroll omitted from this squad it looks like Lambert is in the driving seat.

It will certainly take a remarkable turn of fortunes for Carroll to get in ahead of Lambert from here.

Verdict: Not 100 per cent certain but almost there.

 

Jay Rodriguez.

You felt that Rodriguez really had to get on and press his case at Wembley if he was to have a realistic chance of making the final squad.

As it was he was left as an unused sub and is looking unlikely to get there now.

In fairness to Rodriguez he did superbly to battle his way back into the squad again, and his inclusion is surely a nod from Roy Hodgson that he is in his long term plans.

However, in a position where there is fierce competition, he looks like missing out on Brazil.

Verdict: Probably not quite going to make it this time.

 

Luke Shaw.

He is probably the most intriguing of the Saints quartet by virtue of the fact his inclusion or not is the hardest to call.

It is quite clear that it will be between him and Ashley Cole to be the back up to Leighton Baines, but not even Roy Hodgson sounds like he knows which way he is going.

Cole has all experience you could wish for and in the first half proved he can still play at this level despite a lack of club games.

Shaw made his debut and showed in the second half he has the virtues of youth and is match sharp due to regular Premier League action for Saints.

Tough to call.

Verdict: It’s him or Cole – take your pick

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11:52am Thu 6 Mar 14

worried of n e hampshire says...

Adam & Luke for sure!
Adam & Luke for sure! worried of n e hampshire
  • Score: 18

12:12pm Thu 6 Mar 14

JohnItaly says...

Would say Lallana is 99.99% certain to go with Shaw a tough call. As regards Lambert and Rodriguez the fact that neither played a part last night does suggest Hodgson has probably come to a decision and if I was a betting man Lambert probable (subject to a good end to his season and Carroll not setting the world on fire) whilst Rodriguez possibly making part of the stand-by squad.
Would say Lallana is 99.99% certain to go with Shaw a tough call. As regards Lambert and Rodriguez the fact that neither played a part last night does suggest Hodgson has probably come to a decision and if I was a betting man Lambert probable (subject to a good end to his season and Carroll not setting the world on fire) whilst Rodriguez possibly making part of the stand-by squad. JohnItaly
  • Score: 13

12:21pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Southampton boy says...

If Hodgson do not put Lallana on the plane then we eed a new engand manager, Luke has done all he can he played well and we do seem to take a 18 year old to these look at the last one TW was taken then in the Eurpean they took Ox so may be he would be an n-used payer but could e there ike the others two did.
Ricky could go depending on the type f football he is looking to play but he is a good target man and can hold up the ball and lay it off
Sorry o say Rod R will not be going only due to thefc he is not scoring.
My only worry is will we lose the like of Laillana and Luke if we are going to keep these players then the club needs to invest eady for next season as if there is no change then these will leave as there would be better off and may win some silver.
If Hodgson do not put Lallana on the plane then we eed a new engand manager, Luke has done all he can he played well and we do seem to take a 18 year old to these look at the last one TW was taken then in the Eurpean they took Ox so may be he would be an n-used payer but could e there ike the others two did. Ricky could go depending on the type f football he is looking to play but he is a good target man and can hold up the ball and lay it off Sorry o say Rod R will not be going only due to thefc he is not scoring. My only worry is will we lose the like of Laillana and Luke if we are going to keep these players then the club needs to invest eady for next season as if there is no change then these will leave as there would be better off and may win some silver. Southampton boy
  • Score: 0

12:30pm Thu 6 Mar 14

right back in the bar says...

What was striking about the game last night was how bad every other player was. Our boys were the only highlight of another poor performance. Its absurd to consider Shrek as world class - 3 or 4 shots blasted way over the bar when he could have passed; pressure on too justify the 300k a week. Watch him huff and puff his inept way through another tournament where he fails miserably. He's Irish anyway. If Lallana, Shaw, and Lambert don't go I doubt I will even bother to tune in to England games. Without them we wont even get out of the group.
What was striking about the game last night was how bad every other player was. Our boys were the only highlight of another poor performance. Its absurd to consider Shrek as world class - 3 or 4 shots blasted way over the bar when he could have passed; pressure on too justify the 300k a week. Watch him huff and puff his inept way through another tournament where he fails miserably. He's Irish anyway. If Lallana, Shaw, and Lambert don't go I doubt I will even bother to tune in to England games. Without them we wont even get out of the group. right back in the bar
  • Score: 12

12:49pm Thu 6 Mar 14

St.Yorkie says...

The game was lack lustre to say the least!
Highlights for me were Sterling, Lallana and Shaw - and a cameo of Rickie sat on the bench!!
How does Henderson get game - is he Cleverley in disguise?
I almost feel embarrassed for those that go - they are bound to be the ones that carry our failure home! Gerrard, Rooney et al will all ponce around and not a bad word reported in the press. Bet your life if Lallana tries his Cruff turn and fails; Shaw gets caught out of position; and Lambert scores a penalty it will still be Southampton's fault England didn't perform!!
The game was lack lustre to say the least! Highlights for me were Sterling, Lallana and Shaw - and a cameo of Rickie sat on the bench!! How does Henderson get game - is he Cleverley in disguise? I almost feel embarrassed for those that go - they are bound to be the ones that carry our failure home! Gerrard, Rooney et al will all ponce around and not a bad word reported in the press. Bet your life if Lallana tries his Cruff turn and fails; Shaw gets caught out of position; and Lambert scores a penalty it will still be Southampton's fault England didn't perform!! St.Yorkie
  • Score: 4

1:27pm Thu 6 Mar 14

SwedeSaint says...

Gerrard was the only 'World class' player on that pitch last night. Lallana was excellent when he came on as was Shaw. Hodgson should have one eye on the future and blood the youngsters in Brazil. I would bring Rooney as back up for the Ox, Baines as back up for Shaw, Johnson as back up for Clyne, Leave Lambert at home and bring Jay.
With the team that Hodgson will actually take and play we won't make it out of the group stages and then we'll have to start all over again for the Euros....a development team is the way forward for Brazil
Gerrard was the only 'World class' player on that pitch last night. Lallana was excellent when he came on as was Shaw. Hodgson should have one eye on the future and blood the youngsters in Brazil. I would bring Rooney as back up for the Ox, Baines as back up for Shaw, Johnson as back up for Clyne, Leave Lambert at home and bring Jay. With the team that Hodgson will actually take and play we won't make it out of the group stages and then we'll have to start all over again for the Euros....a development team is the way forward for Brazil SwedeSaint
  • Score: 2

1:35pm Thu 6 Mar 14

right back in the bar says...

St.Yorkie wrote:
The game was lack lustre to say the least!
Highlights for me were Sterling, Lallana and Shaw - and a cameo of Rickie sat on the bench!!
How does Henderson get game - is he Cleverley in disguise?
I almost feel embarrassed for those that go - they are bound to be the ones that carry our failure home! Gerrard, Rooney et al will all ponce around and not a bad word reported in the press. Bet your life if Lallana tries his Cruff turn and fails; Shaw gets caught out of position; and Lambert scores a penalty it will still be Southampton's fault England didn't perform!!
They won't lets us down if they get the chance - the players who might get picked in their place will almost certainly lets us down. Rooney fails because he can't cope with the mental pressure and physical demands of tournament football (he's not fit enough) and both will be even worse in Brazil - due to the heat and mentally because he knows he's running out of chances before people write him off. For me he has a reputation and that's all there is sadly its enough for him to get picked and why no one seems to question what he actually brings to the team. Lambert is a better player - better footballing brain and defenders wont know how to play a centre forward who drops deep and brings others into the game.
[quote][p][bold]St.Yorkie[/bold] wrote: The game was lack lustre to say the least! Highlights for me were Sterling, Lallana and Shaw - and a cameo of Rickie sat on the bench!! How does Henderson get game - is he Cleverley in disguise? I almost feel embarrassed for those that go - they are bound to be the ones that carry our failure home! Gerrard, Rooney et al will all ponce around and not a bad word reported in the press. Bet your life if Lallana tries his Cruff turn and fails; Shaw gets caught out of position; and Lambert scores a penalty it will still be Southampton's fault England didn't perform!![/p][/quote]They won't lets us down if they get the chance - the players who might get picked in their place will almost certainly lets us down. Rooney fails because he can't cope with the mental pressure and physical demands of tournament football (he's not fit enough) and both will be even worse in Brazil - due to the heat and mentally because he knows he's running out of chances before people write him off. For me he has a reputation and that's all there is sadly its enough for him to get picked and why no one seems to question what he actually brings to the team. Lambert is a better player - better footballing brain and defenders wont know how to play a centre forward who drops deep and brings others into the game. right back in the bar
  • Score: 9

1:38pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Folkestone Saint says...

Is it just me or did Gerrard think we were playing in red for half the night, yes I am biased and would say Luke never made a mistake and Adam only one that I can remember, but Gerrard was so so poor with his passing that he should be fighting for a place on the plane and not a defo on it.
Is it just me or did Gerrard think we were playing in red for half the night, yes I am biased and would say Luke never made a mistake and Adam only one that I can remember, but Gerrard was so so poor with his passing that he should be fighting for a place on the plane and not a defo on it. Folkestone Saint
  • Score: 2

2:06pm Thu 6 Mar 14

killared says...

Only 3 players perform last night Shaw, Lallana and Sterling the rest hahahhahahahahah
Only 3 players perform last night Shaw, Lallana and Sterling the rest hahahhahahahahah killared
  • Score: -1

3:24pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Costa Baz says...

I thought the whole team improved once Rooney left the field.
It's not always about playing your so called best players, but about getting the balance right.
Why, for example, was Sturridge, who has been scoring for fun this season, used more as a wide player, first half?
If this was done to accommodate Rooney, then it was wrong.
I know Welbeck isn't universally liked, but pairing him with Sturridge would give the forward line more mobility and pace.
Sterling looked good, yet despite his pace, I can't remember one time when he actually beat a defender.
Lallana's bearing shows that he believes he should be in the team, and he ain't wrong. He shouldn't just be in the squad, he should be first on the team sheet. One run he made through the inside left position, was disappointingly missed by Gerrard. It was the sort of pass SRL has been playing all season, but Gerrard played the safe option, instead of splitting the defence. I also think Gerrard has lost a yard of pace and will need on top of his game when playing better teams.
Luke did well, but there was one time when he was almost caught ball watching. Denmark had the ball on the other side of the pitch and Luke did not get goal side of his man, presumably because he thought the defence had things under control. However the ball broke for Denmark and his guy had a two yard head start racing into our box. Could have been embarrassing had the ball been played across to this guy.
I thought the whole team improved once Rooney left the field. It's not always about playing your so called best players, but about getting the balance right. Why, for example, was Sturridge, who has been scoring for fun this season, used more as a wide player, first half? If this was done to accommodate Rooney, then it was wrong. I know Welbeck isn't universally liked, but pairing him with Sturridge would give the forward line more mobility and pace. Sterling looked good, yet despite his pace, I can't remember one time when he actually beat a defender. Lallana's bearing shows that he believes he should be in the team, and he ain't wrong. He shouldn't just be in the squad, he should be first on the team sheet. One run he made through the inside left position, was disappointingly missed by Gerrard. It was the sort of pass SRL has been playing all season, but Gerrard played the safe option, instead of splitting the defence. I also think Gerrard has lost a yard of pace and will need on top of his game when playing better teams. Luke did well, but there was one time when he was almost caught ball watching. Denmark had the ball on the other side of the pitch and Luke did not get goal side of his man, presumably because he thought the defence had things under control. However the ball broke for Denmark and his guy had a two yard head start racing into our box. Could have been embarrassing had the ball been played across to this guy. Costa Baz
  • Score: 2

3:54pm Thu 6 Mar 14

lowe esteem says...

killared wrote:
Only 3 players perform last night Shaw, Lallana and Sterling the rest hahahhahahahahah
Unfair- Sterland Sturridge and Cahill did well, and Hart stood up when called upon. I do believe it's the 'old guard' who offer nothing new. The more we (and Hodgson) see of the new faces, the more we doubt the 'old' ones.
Continue to be brave Roy, change has to happen for goodness sake.
[quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: Only 3 players perform last night Shaw, Lallana and Sterling the rest hahahhahahahahah[/p][/quote]Unfair- Sterland Sturridge and Cahill did well, and Hart stood up when called upon. I do believe it's the 'old guard' who offer nothing new. The more we (and Hodgson) see of the new faces, the more we doubt the 'old' ones. Continue to be brave Roy, change has to happen for goodness sake. lowe esteem
  • Score: 3

4:26pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Luke? I'd be delighted for him but I fear Roy will 'play safe' and go with what he knows.

Rickie? I'd be more than delighted. If Roy can see what we can see - that he's more than a goal grabber AND notes his penalty record, which would be handy in a shoot out, then he still has a chance.

Jay? I think it would take something special, such as a goal+ per game until May, or a transfer to Manure, or changing his name to Danny Welbeck. Hope I'm wrong.

Adam? I didn't see the game but I think it's only injury (or some t0ssp0t at Lancaster Gate) that could prevent Adam from making the plane now.

Here's what Chris Waddle has said: "I would try to find a place in the team for him. He gets space, he makes space, he can see a pass, he can go inside and outside of players and he can score a goal himself. He has energy, he can see a pass and he is ideal for international football."

Yep! Oh, and he can take a penalty, Chris.
Luke? I'd be delighted for him but I fear Roy will 'play safe' and go with what he knows. Rickie? I'd be more than delighted. If Roy can see what we can see - that he's more than a goal grabber AND notes his penalty record, which would be handy in a shoot out, then he still has a chance. Jay? I think it would take something special, such as a goal+ per game until May, or a transfer to Manure, or changing his name to Danny Welbeck. Hope I'm wrong. Adam? I didn't see the game but I think it's only injury (or some t0ssp0t at Lancaster Gate) that could prevent Adam from making the plane now. Here's what Chris Waddle has said: "I would try to find a place in the team for him. He gets space, he makes space, he can see a pass, he can go inside and outside of players and he can score a goal himself. He has energy, he can see a pass and he is ideal for international football." Yep! Oh, and he can take a penalty, Chris. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 6

5:21pm Thu 6 Mar 14

SaintJD says...

Out of interest, 12 out of 14 outfield players to play for more than five minutes last night play for teams in red - was Cortese on to something? :)

And is Roy mistaking us for Liverpool, Man Utd or Arsenal? The only real way to test this theory out is for us to buy Tom Cleverley, but on second thoughts...
Out of interest, 12 out of 14 outfield players to play for more than five minutes last night play for teams in red - was Cortese on to something? :) And is Roy mistaking us for Liverpool, Man Utd or Arsenal? The only real way to test this theory out is for us to buy Tom Cleverley, but on second thoughts... SaintJD
  • Score: 2

7:42pm Thu 6 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Wilshere has a hair line fracture in his foot and will be out for a few weeks.
Wilshere has a hair line fracture in his foot and will be out for a few weeks. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

8:23pm Thu 6 Mar 14

warrens 76 says...

The players will come back knackered and possibly injured from a World Cup
we cannot possibly win….let timid woy stick with his guaranteed failure Rooney, carthorse Milner,barely footballers Henderson and Cleverley, let Cole have his swan song…and Gerrard too…do not corrupt our lads with Englands inevitable failure….then with Woy leaving and or young blood being given it's head our lads can then do the business in France.
The players will come back knackered and possibly injured from a World Cup we cannot possibly win….let timid woy stick with his guaranteed failure Rooney, carthorse Milner,barely footballers Henderson and Cleverley, let Cole have his swan song…and Gerrard too…do not corrupt our lads with Englands inevitable failure….then with Woy leaving and or young blood being given it's head our lads can then do the business in France. warrens 76
  • Score: 3

10:49pm Thu 6 Mar 14

el caballo santos101 says...

how does Henderson get picked for England? hes just as bad as cleverly. I would have liked to have seen huddlestone given a go, he had a great season at hull and is much more deserving of a call up than either of those 2.
also as I said last night, im still not sure that sturridge is the real deal. he may be scoring for Liverpool but he has suarez playing with him and is suarez, who is genuinely won of the top 4 players in the world, making sturridge look better than he is? sturridge was asked to play as wide striker so that shrek could play in the middle, and he couldn't do it. for most of the game sturridge lost control of the ball, lost possession and made poor runs. if roy want to play that system keeping shrek in the midde he needs to play a forward who is used to playing the wide role, do we know of any? I would move shrek, I have never seen him as a main striker and always thought he should play off o the main man, if shrek doesn't want to play that position then fine drop him, he hasn't done anything in an England shirt and playing up front I don't think he will.
lalla should start instead of Wilshire in brazil. Wilshire will be out for several weeks and is very injury prone anyway. excuses will be made for his poor show last night because of his injury, however he was just as bad before his knock. it was great to see all th pundits in the itv studio heaping praise on lalla and shaw, both should be on the plane, as should SRL. roy will pick 4 strikers, shrek, sturridge, wellbad and either SRL or donkey so that he can have a different option on the bench.
how does Henderson get picked for England? hes just as bad as cleverly. I would have liked to have seen huddlestone given a go, he had a great season at hull and is much more deserving of a call up than either of those 2. also as I said last night, im still not sure that sturridge is the real deal. he may be scoring for Liverpool but he has suarez playing with him and is suarez, who is genuinely won of the top 4 players in the world, making sturridge look better than he is? sturridge was asked to play as wide striker so that shrek could play in the middle, and he couldn't do it. for most of the game sturridge lost control of the ball, lost possession and made poor runs. if roy want to play that system keeping shrek in the midde he needs to play a forward who is used to playing the wide role, do we know of any? I would move shrek, I have never seen him as a main striker and always thought he should play off o the main man, if shrek doesn't want to play that position then fine drop him, he hasn't done anything in an England shirt and playing up front I don't think he will. lalla should start instead of Wilshire in brazil. Wilshire will be out for several weeks and is very injury prone anyway. excuses will be made for his poor show last night because of his injury, however he was just as bad before his knock. it was great to see all th pundits in the itv studio heaping praise on lalla and shaw, both should be on the plane, as should SRL. roy will pick 4 strikers, shrek, sturridge, wellbad and either SRL or donkey so that he can have a different option on the bench. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 2

8:06am Fri 7 Mar 14

SiamSaint says...

right back in the bar wrote:
What was striking about the game last night was how bad every other player was. Our boys were the only highlight of another poor performance. Its absurd to consider Shrek as world class - 3 or 4 shots blasted way over the bar when he could have passed; pressure on too justify the 300k a week. Watch him huff and puff his inept way through another tournament where he fails miserably. He's Irish anyway. If Lallana, Shaw, and Lambert don't go I doubt I will even bother to tune in to England games. Without them we wont even get out of the group.
"He's Irish anyway." Meaning?
[quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: What was striking about the game last night was how bad every other player was. Our boys were the only highlight of another poor performance. Its absurd to consider Shrek as world class - 3 or 4 shots blasted way over the bar when he could have passed; pressure on too justify the 300k a week. Watch him huff and puff his inept way through another tournament where he fails miserably. He's Irish anyway. If Lallana, Shaw, and Lambert don't go I doubt I will even bother to tune in to England games. Without them we wont even get out of the group.[/p][/quote]"He's Irish anyway." Meaning? SiamSaint
  • Score: 1

10:05am Fri 7 Mar 14

miltonnroad76 says...

The first half i felt sorry for wilshire as the liverpool contingent just wanted to pass to each other and if henderson played for another club he wouldnt be in there...its good to have groups from the same club they know each others game but this seemed like playing for themselves to get on the plane.Soon as adam came on and linked up with shaw there was a couple of great southampton style moves down the left where up until then it was down the right johnson sturridge and predictable.As for rooney he really was average looking like he couldnt be bothered and just firing off shots to get a glory goal.Roy knows what lambert can do so i see why no need to play him but...........I would have dropped Rooney started with Rickie and told him to book his place in this game.However Im hoping that Roy has already decided to take Rickie and thats why no game time.
The first half i felt sorry for wilshire as the liverpool contingent just wanted to pass to each other and if henderson played for another club he wouldnt be in there...its good to have groups from the same club they know each others game but this seemed like playing for themselves to get on the plane.Soon as adam came on and linked up with shaw there was a couple of great southampton style moves down the left where up until then it was down the right johnson sturridge and predictable.As for rooney he really was average looking like he couldnt be bothered and just firing off shots to get a glory goal.Roy knows what lambert can do so i see why no need to play him but...........I would have dropped Rooney started with Rickie and told him to book his place in this game.However Im hoping that Roy has already decided to take Rickie and thats why no game time. miltonnroad76
  • Score: 2

4:47pm Fri 7 Mar 14

SaintJD says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Wilshere has a hair line fracture in his foot and will be out for a few weeks.
Rooney has had a hair-line problem for years, but that hasn't stopped him playing.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Wilshere has a hair line fracture in his foot and will be out for a few weeks.[/p][/quote]Rooney has had a hair-line problem for years, but that hasn't stopped him playing. SaintJD
  • Score: 0

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