Shaw one of four Saints in England squad

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Luke Shaw is one of four Saints players handed a chance to make it to the World Cup in Brazil after being named in Roy Hodgson's latest England squad.

The 18-year-old left back joins Saints teammates Rickie Lambert, Adam Lallana and Jay Rodriguez in the 30 man squad for the friendly against Denmark at Wembley next Wednesday night.

Shaw's fellow left-backs Ashley Cole and Leighton Baines have also been included.

The game is last England international before the squad of 23 players plus seven standbys for the World Cup is selected following the end of the Premier League season.

In a boost to Lambert's chances, West Ham striker Andy Carroll has been overlooked.

James Ward-Prowse has been selected for the England under-21 side to take on Wales.

Sam Gallagher, Matt Targett, Harrison Reed and Calum Chambers are all in the under-19s squad to face Turkey next week.

England squad

Goalkeepers: Fraser Forster (Celtic), Ben Foster (West Bromwich Albion), Joe Hart (Manchester City), John Ruddy (Norwich City).

Defenders: Leighton Baines (Everton), Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Steven Caulker (Cardiff City), Ashley Cole (Chelsea), Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Luke Shaw (Southampton), Chris Smalling (Manchester United), Kyle Walker (Tottenham Hotspur).                          

Midfielders: Ross Barkley (Everton), Michael Carrick (Manchester United), Tom Cleverley (Manchester United), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Jordan Henderson (Liverpool), Adam Lallana (Southampton), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), James Milner (Manchester City), Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal), Raheem Sterling (Liverpool), Andros Townsend (Tottenham Hotspur), Jack Wilshere (Arsenal).

Forwards: Jermain Defoe (Toronto FC), Rickie Lambert (Southampton), Jay Rodriguez (Southampton), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United), Daniel Sturridge (Liverpool), Daniel Welbeck (Manchester United).

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3:07pm Thu 27 Feb 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Well done Luke, Well done Adam, Well done JRod and Well done Rickie.
Well done Luke, Well done Adam, Well done JRod and Well done Rickie. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 39

3:11pm Thu 27 Feb 14

el caballo santos101 says...

4 players in the England squad, the saints takeover of England has started!

well done to all those picked for England, and other teams.
its hard to believe that we were in L1 just a few years ago and now were top half of the prem with a team full of internationals.
4 players in the England squad, the saints takeover of England has started! well done to all those picked for England, and other teams. its hard to believe that we were in L1 just a few years ago and now were top half of the prem with a team full of internationals. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 30

3:12pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Stnana says...

Congratulations to all four and Good Luck !
Congratulations to all four and Good Luck ! Stnana
  • Score: 20

3:14pm Thu 27 Feb 14

andoru says...

Only four? Well, it's a start I suppose.

Great news for Luke and the others. Would be great to have all of them in the World Cup squad too, carrying the flag for Southampton back to Brazil. Remember, it was a Saints player who taught them how to play the game in the first place.
Only four? Well, it's a start I suppose. Great news for Luke and the others. Would be great to have all of them in the World Cup squad too, carrying the flag for Southampton back to Brazil. Remember, it was a Saints player who taught them how to play the game in the first place. andoru
  • Score: 23

3:15pm Thu 27 Feb 14

summercat says...

Just read it on BBC Sport, and a little bit of wee came out. CONGRATULATIONS to you all!
Just read it on BBC Sport, and a little bit of wee came out. CONGRATULATIONS to you all! summercat
  • Score: 14

3:17pm Thu 27 Feb 14

There's only one 'H' in 'Ampshire says...

We're off to Brazil
We're off to Brazil-l
We are Southampton
We're off to Brazil
We're off to Brazil We're off to Brazil-l We are Southampton We're off to Brazil There's only one 'H' in 'Ampshire
  • Score: 18

3:17pm Thu 27 Feb 14

killared says...

congratulations to all four but It's beyond me that Cleverley and Carrick are in the squad when they are not performing and really useless instead of Cork the unsung hero
congratulations to all four but It's beyond me that Cleverley and Carrick are in the squad when they are not performing and really useless instead of Cork the unsung hero killared
  • Score: 28

3:18pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Santa Retfordia says...

Other than Sturridge, it's only the Saints players who look like they might have a little bit of magic in their boots with which to worry the top teams at the world cup. I think Lalz will be an absolute star, but Luke won't be far behind if given a chance.
Other than Sturridge, it's only the Saints players who look like they might have a little bit of magic in their boots with which to worry the top teams at the world cup. I think Lalz will be an absolute star, but Luke won't be far behind if given a chance. Santa Retfordia
  • Score: 12

3:22pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Santa Retfordia says...

killared wrote:
congratulations to all four but It's beyond me that Cleverley and Carrick are in the squad when they are not performing and really useless instead of Cork the unsung hero
Sorry! I just accidentally 'thumbs-downed' that because I saw the words "Cleverley" and "Carrick" and was so filled with rage I had to hit the 'booooooo' button.

Needless to say, I'm with you 100%.
[quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: congratulations to all four but It's beyond me that Cleverley and Carrick are in the squad when they are not performing and really useless instead of Cork the unsung hero[/p][/quote]Sorry! I just accidentally 'thumbs-downed' that because I saw the words "Cleverley" and "Carrick" and was so filled with rage I had to hit the 'booooooo' button. Needless to say, I'm with you 100%. Santa Retfordia
  • Score: 13

3:28pm Thu 27 Feb 14

03alpe01 says...

I think Luke will go to Brazil ahead of Ashley Cole. Why he's still called up is beyond me. Tom Cleverley,Chris Smalling, Jordan Henderson and Jams Milner as we know are only called up due to the club badge they wear. Carrick is still a top class player
I think Luke will go to Brazil ahead of Ashley Cole. Why he's still called up is beyond me. Tom Cleverley,Chris Smalling, Jordan Henderson and Jams Milner as we know are only called up due to the club badge they wear. Carrick is still a top class player 03alpe01
  • Score: 5

3:30pm Thu 27 Feb 14

killared says...

@Santa Retfordia

I don't really understand why Cork is not included, them two named in my previous post are so awful for their club and they keep getting picked !. Tuesday Carrick offer a goal to Olympiacos and Cleverley were so awful so why Roy why?. Oh I know it's because they play for Manchester diving academy !!
@Santa Retfordia I don't really understand why Cork is not included, them two named in my previous post are so awful for their club and they keep getting picked !. Tuesday Carrick offer a goal to Olympiacos and Cleverley were so awful so why Roy why?. Oh I know it's because they play for Manchester diving academy !! killared
  • Score: 3

3:30pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Costa Baz says...

9 England players on display, at SMS, Saturday?

Do you think Roy might be there?

Hope so, just for Cork to show him how good he has become.
9 England players on display, at SMS, Saturday? Do you think Roy might be there? Hope so, just for Cork to show him how good he has become. Costa Baz
  • Score: 22

3:38pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Santa Retfordia says...

killared wrote:
@Santa Retfordia

I don't really understand why Cork is not included, them two named in my previous post are so awful for their club and they keep getting picked !. Tuesday Carrick offer a goal to Olympiacos and Cleverley were so awful so why Roy why?. Oh I know it's because they play for Manchester diving academy !!
To be honest, I don't even know any United fans that would disagree with you. They're terrible, terrible players.
[quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: @Santa Retfordia I don't really understand why Cork is not included, them two named in my previous post are so awful for their club and they keep getting picked !. Tuesday Carrick offer a goal to Olympiacos and Cleverley were so awful so why Roy why?. Oh I know it's because they play for Manchester diving academy !![/p][/quote]To be honest, I don't even know any United fans that would disagree with you. They're terrible, terrible players. Santa Retfordia
  • Score: 5

3:38pm Thu 27 Feb 14

killared says...

Technically 5 Saints players will play for England Wednesday The OX still a Saint at Heart !
Technically 5 Saints players will play for England Wednesday The OX still a Saint at Heart ! killared
  • Score: 5

3:39pm Thu 27 Feb 14

summercat says...

Luke will start next week, and go to Brazil, for shaw. See what I did there?...
Luke will start next week, and go to Brazil, for shaw. See what I did there?... summercat
  • Score: 9

3:39pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
killared wrote:
congratulations to all four but It's beyond me that Cleverley and Carrick are in the squad when they are not performing and really useless instead of Cork the unsung hero
Sorry! I just accidentally 'thumbs-downed' that because I saw the words "Cleverley" and "Carrick" and was so filled with rage I had to hit the 'booooooo' button.

Needless to say, I'm with you 100%.
Don't worry, I gave it a thumbs up to compensate, then gave you one to double the compensation, then gave 03alpe01 a thumbs up as well. In fact, I think everyone on here should just give a thumbs up to anyone questioning the bizarre wisdom of including any of Henderson, Cleverley, Smalling, Cole, Johnson, Walker, Milner or Welbeck in an England squad. None would get closer than an occasional spot on the bench if they were, heaven forbid, Saints players.

But hey! Well done Rickie, Adam, Jay and Luke. Four now, JWP, Cork and Clyne inching nearer and four more under 19s on the way.
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: congratulations to all four but It's beyond me that Cleverley and Carrick are in the squad when they are not performing and really useless instead of Cork the unsung hero[/p][/quote]Sorry! I just accidentally 'thumbs-downed' that because I saw the words "Cleverley" and "Carrick" and was so filled with rage I had to hit the 'booooooo' button. Needless to say, I'm with you 100%.[/p][/quote]Don't worry, I gave it a thumbs up to compensate, then gave you one to double the compensation, then gave 03alpe01 a thumbs up as well. In fact, I think everyone on here should just give a thumbs up to anyone questioning the bizarre wisdom of including any of Henderson, Cleverley, Smalling, Cole, Johnson, Walker, Milner or Welbeck in an England squad. None would get closer than an occasional spot on the bench if they were, heaven forbid, Saints players. But hey! Well done Rickie, Adam, Jay and Luke. Four now, JWP, Cork and Clyne inching nearer and four more under 19s on the way. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 14

3:45pm Thu 27 Feb 14

saint christopher says...

Great news and yet more confirmation that Saints star is in the ascendency.

Taking off my Saints-coloured specs however I personally think that RL is somewhat fortunate to be there - a decision reflecting the dearth of other striking options more than his overall performances this season (although Hodgson may be working on he principle he's worth taking for penalty-taking alone.

Just hope they all keep their place and are actually trusted with game starts.
Great news and yet more confirmation that Saints star is in the ascendency. Taking off my Saints-coloured specs however I personally think that RL is somewhat fortunate to be there - a decision reflecting the dearth of other striking options more than his overall performances this season (although Hodgson may be working on he principle he's worth taking for penalty-taking alone. Just hope they all keep their place and are actually trusted with game starts. saint christopher
  • Score: 0

3:47pm Thu 27 Feb 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Probably out on a limb here but I would like another look at a Welbeck/Lambo combination, for the brief period they were playing together they seemed to hit it off straight away, and Lambos instinctive passing set Welbeck up for a number of good chances.
Probably out on a limb here but I would like another look at a Welbeck/Lambo combination, for the brief period they were playing together they seemed to hit it off straight away, and Lambos instinctive passing set Welbeck up for a number of good chances. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 6

3:49pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Confucious says...

What - no Cork, no JWP, no Clyne! Do I detect a serious anti-Saints bias at the FA?
What - no Cork, no JWP, no Clyne! Do I detect a serious anti-Saints bias at the FA? Confucious
  • Score: 20

3:49pm Thu 27 Feb 14

JohnItaly says...

I said in an earlier post I thought it unlikely all four would be selected for the squad. So glad I was proved wrong. Well done to the four of you and the very best of luck.
I said in an earlier post I thought it unlikely all four would be selected for the squad. So glad I was proved wrong. Well done to the four of you and the very best of luck. JohnItaly
  • Score: 9

3:50pm Thu 27 Feb 14

SaintJD says...

It's quite ironic that we have two strikers in the England squad but that many people understandably feel we need to strengthen up front as a priority as we don't take our chances :)

You have to say Rickie and Jay-Rod have an excellent chance with Defoe going to the states and Carroll being overlooked and Adam is nailed on for me.

Looking at our striking options I think our two front men will be fighting it out for one place.

Luke, in my opinion, will be blooded properly in the Euro qualifiers rather than the World Cup. Saw Roy talking about wanting to take 'players who had been on the journey with us' , so I expect him to opt for Cole as his back-up at left back, which is a shame, but hey, he dropped Rio so maybe he'll do the same with Cole.
It's quite ironic that we have two strikers in the England squad but that many people understandably feel we need to strengthen up front as a priority as we don't take our chances :) You have to say Rickie and Jay-Rod have an excellent chance with Defoe going to the states and Carroll being overlooked and Adam is nailed on for me. Looking at our striking options I think our two front men will be fighting it out for one place. Luke, in my opinion, will be blooded properly in the Euro qualifiers rather than the World Cup. Saw Roy talking about wanting to take 'players who had been on the journey with us' , so I expect him to opt for Cole as his back-up at left back, which is a shame, but hey, he dropped Rio so maybe he'll do the same with Cole. SaintJD
  • Score: 2

3:56pm Thu 27 Feb 14

SaintJD says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Probably out on a limb here but I would like another look at a Welbeck/Lambo combination, for the brief period they were playing together they seemed to hit it off straight away, and Lambos instinctive passing set Welbeck up for a number of good chances.
Very true Osprey. I see Rickie as the closest we have to a Rooney alternative at the moment - hope he gets some decent game time but, if he doesn't, I'd say that's a good sign that he's done enough to make the squad.

Will be interesting to see what he does with Jay Rod - I'm assuming he'll have to give him a start if he really is considering him for the trip.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Probably out on a limb here but I would like another look at a Welbeck/Lambo combination, for the brief period they were playing together they seemed to hit it off straight away, and Lambos instinctive passing set Welbeck up for a number of good chances.[/p][/quote]Very true Osprey. I see Rickie as the closest we have to a Rooney alternative at the moment - hope he gets some decent game time but, if he doesn't, I'd say that's a good sign that he's done enough to make the squad. Will be interesting to see what he does with Jay Rod - I'm assuming he'll have to give him a start if he really is considering him for the trip. SaintJD
  • Score: 0

3:56pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Blackwaterblue says...

Good Luck to all. Pompey once had 5 in the England Team. You can do it!
Good Luck to all. Pompey once had 5 in the England Team. You can do it! Blackwaterblue
  • Score: -13

4:14pm Thu 27 Feb 14

donni1437 says...

Blackwaterblue wrote:
Good Luck to all. Pompey once had 5 in the England Team. You can do it!
Emphasis on the word ONCE.
[quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote: Good Luck to all. Pompey once had 5 in the England Team. You can do it![/p][/quote]Emphasis on the word ONCE. donni1437
  • Score: 6

4:18pm Thu 27 Feb 14

BracknellSaint says...

Good day to be a Saint, but slightly disappointed that Cork wasn't givena chance...And personally think either Clyne or Chambers( probably Clyne due to his additional experience) are better than certainly Glen Johnson, and probably Kyle Walker too..
Not so sure all 4 will go to Brazil, but they may well..
Rickie is basically up against donkey Carroll for one role..
Lallana is surely booked already. J-Rod could be the surprise, as we lack people with pace who can run from deep/beyond the front man, hence the hyping of Townsend, who actually isn't all that great..
Shaw must be in above Cole, to back up Baines, but wonder if Roy might just bottle it because of Cole's history..
Good day to be a Saint, but slightly disappointed that Cork wasn't givena chance...And personally think either Clyne or Chambers( probably Clyne due to his additional experience) are better than certainly Glen Johnson, and probably Kyle Walker too.. Not so sure all 4 will go to Brazil, but they may well.. Rickie is basically up against donkey Carroll for one role.. Lallana is surely booked already. J-Rod could be the surprise, as we lack people with pace who can run from deep/beyond the front man, hence the hyping of Townsend, who actually isn't all that great.. Shaw must be in above Cole, to back up Baines, but wonder if Roy might just bottle it because of Cole's history.. BracknellSaint
  • Score: 5

4:21pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Abbey Saint says...

summercat wrote:
Just read it on BBC Sport, and a little bit of wee came out. CONGRATULATIONS to you all!
Too much information
[quote][p][bold]summercat[/bold] wrote: Just read it on BBC Sport, and a little bit of wee came out. CONGRATULATIONS to you all![/p][/quote]Too much information Abbey Saint
  • Score: 12

4:21pm Thu 27 Feb 14

BracknellSaint says...

SaintJD wrote:
It's quite ironic that we have two strikers in the England squad but that many people understandably feel we need to strengthen up front as a priority as we don't take our chances :)

You have to say Rickie and Jay-Rod have an excellent chance with Defoe going to the states and Carroll being overlooked and Adam is nailed on for me.

Looking at our striking options I think our two front men will be fighting it out for one place.

Luke, in my opinion, will be blooded properly in the Euro qualifiers rather than the World Cup. Saw Roy talking about wanting to take 'players who had been on the journey with us' , so I expect him to opt for Cole as his back-up at left back, which is a shame, but hey, he dropped Rio so maybe he'll do the same with Cole.
I think it's because both Rickie and J-Rod are more like 'second' strikers than out and out goalscorers...If Saints could just get one of those, who would get 20 a year from inside the box to compliment our play...
I can live and dream, I suppose..
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: It's quite ironic that we have two strikers in the England squad but that many people understandably feel we need to strengthen up front as a priority as we don't take our chances :) You have to say Rickie and Jay-Rod have an excellent chance with Defoe going to the states and Carroll being overlooked and Adam is nailed on for me. Looking at our striking options I think our two front men will be fighting it out for one place. Luke, in my opinion, will be blooded properly in the Euro qualifiers rather than the World Cup. Saw Roy talking about wanting to take 'players who had been on the journey with us' , so I expect him to opt for Cole as his back-up at left back, which is a shame, but hey, he dropped Rio so maybe he'll do the same with Cole.[/p][/quote]I think it's because both Rickie and J-Rod are more like 'second' strikers than out and out goalscorers...If Saints could just get one of those, who would get 20 a year from inside the box to compliment our play... I can live and dream, I suppose.. BracknellSaint
  • Score: 2

4:24pm Thu 27 Feb 14

FindAndDestroy says...

I really want MoPo to give Clyne a chance to earn his England call..

I firmly believe he is the right option for Glen Johnson ...

.if we fill the England squad with all the usual suspects, i wont expect much to change....

We need something new and fresh..

Well done to all our Four SAINTS....seize the moment and make the most it.....

I hope they use this adrenaline to Gun down Liverpool...
I really want MoPo to give Clyne a chance to earn his England call.. I firmly believe he is the right option for Glen Johnson ... .if we fill the England squad with all the usual suspects, i wont expect much to change.... We need something new and fresh.. Well done to all our Four SAINTS....seize the moment and make the most it..... I hope they use this adrenaline to Gun down Liverpool... FindAndDestroy
  • Score: 14

4:31pm Thu 27 Feb 14

BracknellSaint says...

Blackwaterblue wrote:
Good Luck to all. Pompey once had 5 in the England Team. You can do it!
Wow! Did you have 4 in the main team, couple in the U21's and another 4 or so in the U19's a the same time?
And almost all through the youth set up?
In fact, apart from the million for Lambert, only realy JRod who cost a few quid?
Who were the Poopey 5? James, Johnson,Defoe, Crouch + 1 ? All bought for massive money? Local charities' cash well spent then...
[quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote: Good Luck to all. Pompey once had 5 in the England Team. You can do it![/p][/quote]Wow! Did you have 4 in the main team, couple in the U21's and another 4 or so in the U19's a the same time? And almost all through the youth set up? In fact, apart from the million for Lambert, only realy JRod who cost a few quid? Who were the Poopey 5? James, Johnson,Defoe, Crouch + 1 ? All bought for massive money? Local charities' cash well spent then... BracknellSaint
  • Score: 14

4:32pm Thu 27 Feb 14

mickey01 says...

amazing when you think a few years ago hardly any player outside the so called big top four teams would even be given a thought let alone a place in the squad
amazing when you think a few years ago hardly any player outside the so called big top four teams would even be given a thought let alone a place in the squad mickey01
  • Score: 7

4:35pm Thu 27 Feb 14

killared says...

He plays on the left,

he plays on the right!
adam Lallana,

makes Messi look s**te!
He plays on the left, he plays on the right! adam Lallana, makes Messi look s**te! killared
  • Score: 7

5:00pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Clever Dick says...

Great news and congrats to all 4. I think Rickie and JRod are a little fortunate given that they aren't exactly on fire at the moment. And no Andy Carroll. We're going to miss those elbows. Roy appears to have been a little biased with his selections though. I've looked and looked and I can't seem to find a single skunt.
Great news and congrats to all 4. I think Rickie and JRod are a little fortunate given that they aren't exactly on fire at the moment. And no Andy Carroll. We're going to miss those elbows. Roy appears to have been a little biased with his selections though. I've looked and looked and I can't seem to find a single skunt. Clever Dick
  • Score: 4

5:12pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Tye-Dye pt2 says...

Our academy has produced some of the best English players (and a rather handy Welsh lad) of the last 30 years but we had to sell our glittering prizes to merely survive, well not any more and without a shadow of doubt the next 20 years looks even brighter for England...thanks to us!
Our academy has produced some of the best English players (and a rather handy Welsh lad) of the last 30 years but we had to sell our glittering prizes to merely survive, well not any more and without a shadow of doubt the next 20 years looks even brighter for England...thanks to us! Tye-Dye pt2
  • Score: 4

5:19pm Thu 27 Feb 14

st1halo says...

Blackwaterblue wrote:
Good Luck to all. Pompey once had 5 in the England Team. You can do it!
The difference is we don't buy England players, we make them.
But thanks for your support.

STID
[quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote: Good Luck to all. Pompey once had 5 in the England Team. You can do it![/p][/quote]The difference is we don't buy England players, we make them. But thanks for your support. STID st1halo
  • Score: 21

5:27pm Thu 27 Feb 14

There's only one 'H' in 'Ampshire says...

st1halo wrote:
Blackwaterblue wrote:
Good Luck to all. Pompey once had 5 in the England Team. You can do it!
The difference is we don't buy England players, we make them.
But thanks for your support.

STID
Would these be the same players who bankrupted your team?
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote: Good Luck to all. Pompey once had 5 in the England Team. You can do it![/p][/quote]The difference is we don't buy England players, we make them. But thanks for your support. STID[/p][/quote]Would these be the same players who bankrupted your team? There's only one 'H' in 'Ampshire
  • Score: 8

5:30pm Thu 27 Feb 14

JohnItaly says...

In the euphoria of congratulating our 4 England players (and justifiably so) I think some praise should be directed at MoPo for without his input the team as a whole would not be seem in quite the light it is due to our style and manner of playing and therefore attracting the attention of Hodgson & Company.
In the euphoria of congratulating our 4 England players (and justifiably so) I think some praise should be directed at MoPo for without his input the team as a whole would not be seem in quite the light it is due to our style and manner of playing and therefore attracting the attention of Hodgson & Company. JohnItaly
  • Score: 17

6:10pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Burton Saint says...

donni1437 wrote:
Blackwaterblue wrote:
Good Luck to all. Pompey once had 5 in the England Team. You can do it!
Emphasis on the word ONCE.
and none of them were home grown
[quote][p][bold]donni1437[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote: Good Luck to all. Pompey once had 5 in the England Team. You can do it![/p][/quote]Emphasis on the word ONCE.[/p][/quote]and none of them were home grown Burton Saint
  • Score: 11

6:17pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Burton Saint says...

There's only one 'H' in 'Ampshire wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Blackwaterblue wrote:
Good Luck to all. Pompey once had 5 in the England Team. You can do it!
The difference is we don't buy England players, we make them.
But thanks for your support.

STID
Would these be the same players who bankrupted your team?
It wasn't the players who bankrupted Portsmouth, nor was it Harry Redknapp. It started with Manduric inflating the club's value by funding the overspending to get to the Prem and the FA Cup Final. He sold out to a very dubious buyer, who sold out, who sold out ad nauseum. It was dodgy owners and an ineffectual Premier League and Football League process that let the club down. There are a good few DECENT Portsmouth supporters amongst the dross and it's those who are feeling the pain. Having said that, I don't care if they never 'grace' St Marys again and end up playing at Havant & Waterlooville or lower. Don't care at all.
[quote][p][bold]There's only one 'H' in 'Ampshire[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote: Good Luck to all. Pompey once had 5 in the England Team. You can do it![/p][/quote]The difference is we don't buy England players, we make them. But thanks for your support. STID[/p][/quote]Would these be the same players who bankrupted your team?[/p][/quote]It wasn't the players who bankrupted Portsmouth, nor was it Harry Redknapp. It started with Manduric inflating the club's value by funding the overspending to get to the Prem and the FA Cup Final. He sold out to a very dubious buyer, who sold out, who sold out ad nauseum. It was dodgy owners and an ineffectual Premier League and Football League process that let the club down. There are a good few DECENT Portsmouth supporters amongst the dross and it's those who are feeling the pain. Having said that, I don't care if they never 'grace' St Marys again and end up playing at Havant & Waterlooville or lower. Don't care at all. Burton Saint
  • Score: 2

6:20pm Thu 27 Feb 14

el caballo santos101 says...

I would like to think that when the squad was announced NC had a big smile on his face.
NA and AP must also take some credit for the development of our players.
Lets hope that none of our players injure johnson on Sat. I wouldn't want him to have to pull out of the squad and leave a place for clone or chambers, perhaps MP should 'protect' him by man marking him with Big Vic! ;^)
I would like to think that when the squad was announced NC had a big smile on his face. NA and AP must also take some credit for the development of our players. Lets hope that none of our players injure johnson on Sat. I wouldn't want him to have to pull out of the squad and leave a place for clone or chambers, perhaps MP should 'protect' him by man marking him with Big Vic! ;^) el caballo santos101
  • Score: 7

6:22pm Thu 27 Feb 14

slugger says...

Proud as fcuk ...... We have as many players in the England squad as Arsenal and Man City combined ........ Who said you have to play for a "big club" to be selected ?
Proud as fcuk ...... We have as many players in the England squad as Arsenal and Man City combined ........ Who said you have to play for a "big club" to be selected ? slugger
  • Score: 5

6:48pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Blackknight says...

Hopefully the England call up will put several millions on the price tag of all four players and help keep the circling vultures at bay. If they make it onto the plane to Brazil their stock will increase even further.
Hopefully the England call up will put several millions on the price tag of all four players and help keep the circling vultures at bay. If they make it onto the plane to Brazil their stock will increase even further. Blackknight
  • Score: 2

7:06pm Thu 27 Feb 14

saint Compo says...

This is a very proud moment for SFC. Have we ever had as many as 4 players called up to a full England squad before? On top of that we have several more young players called up to other England squads.

Praise must go to NC and MP. But let's not forget the coaches at Academy level over many years who have developed young players of high quality and made the Academy one of the best in the world. Unfortunately, in the past we have been unable to retain the likes of Walcott, Bale and Oxo because they have fallen prey to the 'big' clubs and also, frankly, because we needed the money to keep SFC going. With the investment in the Club by St Markus (whose daughter will, I hope, pursue the dream) we have a better chance of holding on to our young stars. That is now the challenge for Saints. If Lalla, JRod, Luke, Chambers, Clyne, Spiderman (give him an England cap!), MWP and the other young starlets are still with the club in 5 years time, we will be a formidable club.

On the day of Sir Tom's funeral, it's as well to remember the days when playing for England was the pinnacle of a player's career and monetary reward was almost irrelevant. Those days are gone but it would be nice to think that loyalty to Club and Country can still count for something.

COYR
This is a very proud moment for SFC. Have we ever had as many as 4 players called up to a full England squad before? On top of that we have several more young players called up to other England squads. Praise must go to NC and MP. But let's not forget the coaches at Academy level over many years who have developed young players of high quality and made the Academy one of the best in the world. Unfortunately, in the past we have been unable to retain the likes of Walcott, Bale and Oxo because they have fallen prey to the 'big' clubs and also, frankly, because we needed the money to keep SFC going. With the investment in the Club by St Markus (whose daughter will, I hope, pursue the dream) we have a better chance of holding on to our young stars. That is now the challenge for Saints. If Lalla, JRod, Luke, Chambers, Clyne, Spiderman (give him an England cap!), MWP and the other young starlets are still with the club in 5 years time, we will be a formidable club. On the day of Sir Tom's funeral, it's as well to remember the days when playing for England was the pinnacle of a player's career and monetary reward was almost irrelevant. Those days are gone but it would be nice to think that loyalty to Club and Country can still count for something. COYR saint Compo
  • Score: 11

7:10pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Stroppy_gramps says...

get. in.

proud as anything for Luke, pleased beyond words for Adam, Ricky and Jay
get. in. proud as anything for Luke, pleased beyond words for Adam, Ricky and Jay Stroppy_gramps
  • Score: 5

7:11pm Thu 27 Feb 14

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH says...

BracknellSaint wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
It's quite ironic that we have two strikers in the England squad but that many people understandably feel we need to strengthen up front as a priority as we don't take our chances :)

You have to say Rickie and Jay-Rod have an excellent chance with Defoe going to the states and Carroll being overlooked and Adam is nailed on for me.

Looking at our striking options I think our two front men will be fighting it out for one place.

Luke, in my opinion, will be blooded properly in the Euro qualifiers rather than the World Cup. Saw Roy talking about wanting to take 'players who had been on the journey with us' , so I expect him to opt for Cole as his back-up at left back, which is a shame, but hey, he dropped Rio so maybe he'll do the same with Cole.
I think it's because both Rickie and J-Rod are more like 'second' strikers than out and out goalscorers...If Saints could just get one of those, who would get 20 a year from inside the box to compliment our play...
I can live and dream, I suppose..
Ideally we would like to strengthen at GK and CB and get an out and out Goal Scorer.

CONGRATULATIONS TO THE PLAYERS.

I hope everyone is UP FOR IT vs Liverpool.

An Observation rather than a criticism.
Being honest - the Players came out quite late to train vs Wet Spam. MP has a style where he sits slumped in his seat for most of the game rather than showing the Passion and Motivation on the Touchline. It all seemed like a Training session than having the burning desire to win a game of football.

WE HATE POMPEY - all this nonsense with wet Spam suits them to be UP for the games - the needle with wet Spam has gone. Walked around Wet Spam and East Ham in full SAINTS COLOURS and scarf - with no issues.

THE LOCAL PUB TO THE GROUND TO GET A PINT - rather than the long queues in the concourse and getting an overpriced bottle is the CENTRAL.

SEE YOU THERE NEXT TIME WE PLAY.

GOING TO SEE OUR ENGLAND SAINTS AT WEMBLEY.

WE ARE DOING SO WELL - LET'S PUT OUR RECENT DISAPPOINTMENTS BEHIND US - AND WIN AGAINST LIVERPOOL.

COYR
[quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: It's quite ironic that we have two strikers in the England squad but that many people understandably feel we need to strengthen up front as a priority as we don't take our chances :) You have to say Rickie and Jay-Rod have an excellent chance with Defoe going to the states and Carroll being overlooked and Adam is nailed on for me. Looking at our striking options I think our two front men will be fighting it out for one place. Luke, in my opinion, will be blooded properly in the Euro qualifiers rather than the World Cup. Saw Roy talking about wanting to take 'players who had been on the journey with us' , so I expect him to opt for Cole as his back-up at left back, which is a shame, but hey, he dropped Rio so maybe he'll do the same with Cole.[/p][/quote]I think it's because both Rickie and J-Rod are more like 'second' strikers than out and out goalscorers...If Saints could just get one of those, who would get 20 a year from inside the box to compliment our play... I can live and dream, I suppose..[/p][/quote]Ideally we would like to strengthen at GK and CB and get an out and out Goal Scorer. CONGRATULATIONS TO THE PLAYERS. I hope everyone is UP FOR IT vs Liverpool. An Observation rather than a criticism. Being honest - the Players came out quite late to train vs Wet Spam. MP has a style where he sits slumped in his seat for most of the game rather than showing the Passion and Motivation on the Touchline. It all seemed like a Training session than having the burning desire to win a game of football. WE HATE POMPEY - all this nonsense with wet Spam suits them to be UP for the games - the needle with wet Spam has gone. Walked around Wet Spam and East Ham in full SAINTS COLOURS and scarf - with no issues. THE LOCAL PUB TO THE GROUND TO GET A PINT - rather than the long queues in the concourse and getting an overpriced bottle is the CENTRAL. SEE YOU THERE NEXT TIME WE PLAY. GOING TO SEE OUR ENGLAND SAINTS AT WEMBLEY. WE ARE DOING SO WELL - LET'S PUT OUR RECENT DISAPPOINTMENTS BEHIND US - AND WIN AGAINST LIVERPOOL. COYR REDARMYRULETHESOUTH
  • Score: 8

7:32pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Poole Tom says...

I fully expect to get slaughtered for this but what the hell here goes anyway.
Like everyone else I`m delighted that four Saints players have been selected for this latest England squad and the best of luck to all four of them. However as Saints fans would we not prefer to compete properly in the cup competitions and actually win something rather than bang on about our admittedly outstanding academy? I`ve put my tin helmet on in readiness for the responses!
I fully expect to get slaughtered for this but what the hell here goes anyway. Like everyone else I`m delighted that four Saints players have been selected for this latest England squad and the best of luck to all four of them. However as Saints fans would we not prefer to compete properly in the cup competitions and actually win something rather than bang on about our admittedly outstanding academy? I`ve put my tin helmet on in readiness for the responses! Poole Tom
  • Score: 0

7:33pm Thu 27 Feb 14

DisplacedFan says...

03alpe01 wrote:
I think Luke will go to Brazil ahead of Ashley Cole. Why he's still called up is beyond me. Tom Cleverley,Chris Smalling, Jordan Henderson and Jams Milner as we know are only called up due to the club badge they wear. Carrick is still a top class player
Ashley is going to hold his end up with the women in Brazil. It's the only way he'll score.
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: I think Luke will go to Brazil ahead of Ashley Cole. Why he's still called up is beyond me. Tom Cleverley,Chris Smalling, Jordan Henderson and Jams Milner as we know are only called up due to the club badge they wear. Carrick is still a top class player[/p][/quote]Ashley is going to hold his end up with the women in Brazil. It's the only way he'll score. DisplacedFan
  • Score: 2

7:48pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Baddesley Bill says...

Poole Tom wrote:
I fully expect to get slaughtered for this but what the hell here goes anyway.
Like everyone else I`m delighted that four Saints players have been selected for this latest England squad and the best of luck to all four of them. However as Saints fans would we not prefer to compete properly in the cup competitions and actually win something rather than bang on about our admittedly outstanding academy? I`ve put my tin helmet on in readiness for the responses!
No need for the tin helmet. I think most would agree in hindsight that we should have gone all out to beat Sunderland. But it is done...we move on and hope that we give full respect to a trophy opportunity in the future. The key word is 'future'...and the academy provides us with a potentially great future. The Sunderland game pales into insignificance compared to the opportunities that Staplewood can provide us with in the long run.
[quote][p][bold]Poole Tom[/bold] wrote: I fully expect to get slaughtered for this but what the hell here goes anyway. Like everyone else I`m delighted that four Saints players have been selected for this latest England squad and the best of luck to all four of them. However as Saints fans would we not prefer to compete properly in the cup competitions and actually win something rather than bang on about our admittedly outstanding academy? I`ve put my tin helmet on in readiness for the responses![/p][/quote]No need for the tin helmet. I think most would agree in hindsight that we should have gone all out to beat Sunderland. But it is done...we move on and hope that we give full respect to a trophy opportunity in the future. The key word is 'future'...and the academy provides us with a potentially great future. The Sunderland game pales into insignificance compared to the opportunities that Staplewood can provide us with in the long run. Baddesley Bill
  • Score: 5

8:41pm Thu 27 Feb 14

pompey in spain says...

congrats to all 4 players,though only 1 possibly 2 will go to brazil.they will find it a new sensation playing in front of loud and passionate fans!!!!!!!!!!!
congrats to all 4 players,though only 1 possibly 2 will go to brazil.they will find it a new sensation playing in front of loud and passionate fans!!!!!!!!!!! pompey in spain
  • Score: -9

8:50pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Clever Dick says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Poole Tom wrote:
I fully expect to get slaughtered for this but what the hell here goes anyway.
Like everyone else I`m delighted that four Saints players have been selected for this latest England squad and the best of luck to all four of them. However as Saints fans would we not prefer to compete properly in the cup competitions and actually win something rather than bang on about our admittedly outstanding academy? I`ve put my tin helmet on in readiness for the responses!
No need for the tin helmet. I think most would agree in hindsight that we should have gone all out to beat Sunderland. But it is done...we move on and hope that we give full respect to a trophy opportunity in the future. The key word is 'future'...and the academy provides us with a potentially great future. The Sunderland game pales into insignificance compared to the opportunities that Staplewood can provide us with in the long run.
We are extremely fortunate that we seem to have a never ending production line of young players. In this respect we are well ahead of the game but this can't last forever. If we do have the blueprint for the future then many other clubs will follow suit. It's great that we can no longer be held to ransom but it will still be very difficult for us to hold on to the very best of them. The simple reason is we are not big enough to pay the very top wages. Let's face it £300k per week for the likes of Shrek is just ridiculous. That would cover the wages of more than half of our first team squad. If the rumours are true then at least 3 of the top clubs are now after Luke and a bidding war will push the price to silly levels. It's probably the best we can hope for that the cash we receive will enable us to buy other top players as replacements.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poole Tom[/bold] wrote: I fully expect to get slaughtered for this but what the hell here goes anyway. Like everyone else I`m delighted that four Saints players have been selected for this latest England squad and the best of luck to all four of them. However as Saints fans would we not prefer to compete properly in the cup competitions and actually win something rather than bang on about our admittedly outstanding academy? I`ve put my tin helmet on in readiness for the responses![/p][/quote]No need for the tin helmet. I think most would agree in hindsight that we should have gone all out to beat Sunderland. But it is done...we move on and hope that we give full respect to a trophy opportunity in the future. The key word is 'future'...and the academy provides us with a potentially great future. The Sunderland game pales into insignificance compared to the opportunities that Staplewood can provide us with in the long run.[/p][/quote]We are extremely fortunate that we seem to have a never ending production line of young players. In this respect we are well ahead of the game but this can't last forever. If we do have the blueprint for the future then many other clubs will follow suit. It's great that we can no longer be held to ransom but it will still be very difficult for us to hold on to the very best of them. The simple reason is we are not big enough to pay the very top wages. Let's face it £300k per week for the likes of Shrek is just ridiculous. That would cover the wages of more than half of our first team squad. If the rumours are true then at least 3 of the top clubs are now after Luke and a bidding war will push the price to silly levels. It's probably the best we can hope for that the cash we receive will enable us to buy other top players as replacements. Clever Dick
  • Score: 0

8:55pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Well done to all four. Magnificent effort by all involved.

I really hope Roy has the balls to use this tournament to build a new team for the following three tournaments - Euro, wc and Euro again. We've never taken a long term view and always focused on the next tournament and it has always produced the same outcome so why not change it this time and drop the old guard apart from maybe Gerrard. Of course that wouldn't help Rickies chances but he deserves this one tournament to crown his Roy of the Rovers career. I expected Carroll to get 45 and Rickie 45 but looks like Roy has seen the light.
Well done to all four. Magnificent effort by all involved. I really hope Roy has the balls to use this tournament to build a new team for the following three tournaments - Euro, wc and Euro again. We've never taken a long term view and always focused on the next tournament and it has always produced the same outcome so why not change it this time and drop the old guard apart from maybe Gerrard. Of course that wouldn't help Rickies chances but he deserves this one tournament to crown his Roy of the Rovers career. I expected Carroll to get 45 and Rickie 45 but looks like Roy has seen the light. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 3

8:57pm Thu 27 Feb 14

saintbobby says...

This is a very proud day for the Saints. If I am honest, I hoped that 2, perhaps 3 might be chosen, but to get 4 in to this squad is a very well deserved compliment and both a reward and recognition of what goes on at the club these days.

Regardless of the friendlies and the World Cup, what we must sincerely hope is that all 4 players are still at St Mary's next year. Hope they play well and all the scouts etc have their eyes shut. In fact, keep your hands off our lads!
This is a very proud day for the Saints. If I am honest, I hoped that 2, perhaps 3 might be chosen, but to get 4 in to this squad is a very well deserved compliment and both a reward and recognition of what goes on at the club these days. Regardless of the friendlies and the World Cup, what we must sincerely hope is that all 4 players are still at St Mary's next year. Hope they play well and all the scouts etc have their eyes shut. In fact, keep your hands off our lads! saintbobby
  • Score: 4

9:04pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Poole Tom wrote:
I fully expect to get slaughtered for this but what the hell here goes anyway.
Like everyone else I`m delighted that four Saints players have been selected for this latest England squad and the best of luck to all four of them. However as Saints fans would we not prefer to compete properly in the cup competitions and actually win something rather than bang on about our admittedly outstanding academy? I`ve put my tin helmet on in readiness for the responses!
No need for the tin helmet. I think most would agree in hindsight that we should have gone all out to beat Sunderland. But it is done...we move on and hope that we give full respect to a trophy opportunity in the future. The key word is 'future'...and the academy provides us with a potentially great future. The Sunderland game pales into insignificance compared to the opportunities that Staplewood can provide us with in the long run.
We are extremely fortunate that we seem to have a never ending production line of young players. In this respect we are well ahead of the game but this can't last forever. If we do have the blueprint for the future then many other clubs will follow suit. It's great that we can no longer be held to ransom but it will still be very difficult for us to hold on to the very best of them. The simple reason is we are not big enough to pay the very top wages. Let's face it £300k per week for the likes of Shrek is just ridiculous. That would cover the wages of more than half of our first team squad. If the rumours are true then at least 3 of the top clubs are now after Luke and a bidding war will push the price to silly levels. It's probably the best we can hope for that the cash we receive will enable us to buy other top players as replacements.
It's lasted for decades so far going back through Matt, Bridge, Shearer and the Wallaces etc. The beauty is that other clubs can spend on their academies but that won't buy them the pedigree gained over all these years which coupled with our willingness to actually play them is going to be a massive sway to the mums and dads of the 9 year olds who are being chased by several clubs. And now the England call ups adds even more appeal.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poole Tom[/bold] wrote: I fully expect to get slaughtered for this but what the hell here goes anyway. Like everyone else I`m delighted that four Saints players have been selected for this latest England squad and the best of luck to all four of them. However as Saints fans would we not prefer to compete properly in the cup competitions and actually win something rather than bang on about our admittedly outstanding academy? I`ve put my tin helmet on in readiness for the responses![/p][/quote]No need for the tin helmet. I think most would agree in hindsight that we should have gone all out to beat Sunderland. But it is done...we move on and hope that we give full respect to a trophy opportunity in the future. The key word is 'future'...and the academy provides us with a potentially great future. The Sunderland game pales into insignificance compared to the opportunities that Staplewood can provide us with in the long run.[/p][/quote]We are extremely fortunate that we seem to have a never ending production line of young players. In this respect we are well ahead of the game but this can't last forever. If we do have the blueprint for the future then many other clubs will follow suit. It's great that we can no longer be held to ransom but it will still be very difficult for us to hold on to the very best of them. The simple reason is we are not big enough to pay the very top wages. Let's face it £300k per week for the likes of Shrek is just ridiculous. That would cover the wages of more than half of our first team squad. If the rumours are true then at least 3 of the top clubs are now after Luke and a bidding war will push the price to silly levels. It's probably the best we can hope for that the cash we receive will enable us to buy other top players as replacements.[/p][/quote]It's lasted for decades so far going back through Matt, Bridge, Shearer and the Wallaces etc. The beauty is that other clubs can spend on their academies but that won't buy them the pedigree gained over all these years which coupled with our willingness to actually play them is going to be a massive sway to the mums and dads of the 9 year olds who are being chased by several clubs. And now the England call ups adds even more appeal. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 5

9:18pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Clever Dick says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Poole Tom wrote:
I fully expect to get slaughtered for this but what the hell here goes anyway.
Like everyone else I`m delighted that four Saints players have been selected for this latest England squad and the best of luck to all four of them. However as Saints fans would we not prefer to compete properly in the cup competitions and actually win something rather than bang on about our admittedly outstanding academy? I`ve put my tin helmet on in readiness for the responses!
No need for the tin helmet. I think most would agree in hindsight that we should have gone all out to beat Sunderland. But it is done...we move on and hope that we give full respect to a trophy opportunity in the future. The key word is 'future'...and the academy provides us with a potentially great future. The Sunderland game pales into insignificance compared to the opportunities that Staplewood can provide us with in the long run.
We are extremely fortunate that we seem to have a never ending production line of young players. In this respect we are well ahead of the game but this can't last forever. If we do have the blueprint for the future then many other clubs will follow suit. It's great that we can no longer be held to ransom but it will still be very difficult for us to hold on to the very best of them. The simple reason is we are not big enough to pay the very top wages. Let's face it £300k per week for the likes of Shrek is just ridiculous. That would cover the wages of more than half of our first team squad. If the rumours are true then at least 3 of the top clubs are now after Luke and a bidding war will push the price to silly levels. It's probably the best we can hope for that the cash we receive will enable us to buy other top players as replacements.
It's lasted for decades so far going back through Matt, Bridge, Shearer and the Wallaces etc. The beauty is that other clubs can spend on their academies but that won't buy them the pedigree gained over all these years which coupled with our willingness to actually play them is going to be a massive sway to the mums and dads of the 9 year olds who are being chased by several clubs. And now the England call ups adds even more appeal.
That is all very true. We are probably already a good few years ahead and with the young players we have that is set to continue for quite a while yet. The vision of bringing through young players and blooding them into the first team is a really big plus point and that will probably never happen at the big clubs. How many young players have Chelsea got out on loan ,for instance. I suppose the most important thing then, is for the owners and managers to continue with this current vision.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poole Tom[/bold] wrote: I fully expect to get slaughtered for this but what the hell here goes anyway. Like everyone else I`m delighted that four Saints players have been selected for this latest England squad and the best of luck to all four of them. However as Saints fans would we not prefer to compete properly in the cup competitions and actually win something rather than bang on about our admittedly outstanding academy? I`ve put my tin helmet on in readiness for the responses![/p][/quote]No need for the tin helmet. I think most would agree in hindsight that we should have gone all out to beat Sunderland. But it is done...we move on and hope that we give full respect to a trophy opportunity in the future. The key word is 'future'...and the academy provides us with a potentially great future. The Sunderland game pales into insignificance compared to the opportunities that Staplewood can provide us with in the long run.[/p][/quote]We are extremely fortunate that we seem to have a never ending production line of young players. In this respect we are well ahead of the game but this can't last forever. If we do have the blueprint for the future then many other clubs will follow suit. It's great that we can no longer be held to ransom but it will still be very difficult for us to hold on to the very best of them. The simple reason is we are not big enough to pay the very top wages. Let's face it £300k per week for the likes of Shrek is just ridiculous. That would cover the wages of more than half of our first team squad. If the rumours are true then at least 3 of the top clubs are now after Luke and a bidding war will push the price to silly levels. It's probably the best we can hope for that the cash we receive will enable us to buy other top players as replacements.[/p][/quote]It's lasted for decades so far going back through Matt, Bridge, Shearer and the Wallaces etc. The beauty is that other clubs can spend on their academies but that won't buy them the pedigree gained over all these years which coupled with our willingness to actually play them is going to be a massive sway to the mums and dads of the 9 year olds who are being chased by several clubs. And now the England call ups adds even more appeal.[/p][/quote]That is all very true. We are probably already a good few years ahead and with the young players we have that is set to continue for quite a while yet. The vision of bringing through young players and blooding them into the first team is a really big plus point and that will probably never happen at the big clubs. How many young players have Chelsea got out on loan ,for instance. I suppose the most important thing then, is for the owners and managers to continue with this current vision. Clever Dick
  • Score: 3

9:18pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Clever Dick says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Poole Tom wrote:
I fully expect to get slaughtered for this but what the hell here goes anyway.
Like everyone else I`m delighted that four Saints players have been selected for this latest England squad and the best of luck to all four of them. However as Saints fans would we not prefer to compete properly in the cup competitions and actually win something rather than bang on about our admittedly outstanding academy? I`ve put my tin helmet on in readiness for the responses!
No need for the tin helmet. I think most would agree in hindsight that we should have gone all out to beat Sunderland. But it is done...we move on and hope that we give full respect to a trophy opportunity in the future. The key word is 'future'...and the academy provides us with a potentially great future. The Sunderland game pales into insignificance compared to the opportunities that Staplewood can provide us with in the long run.
We are extremely fortunate that we seem to have a never ending production line of young players. In this respect we are well ahead of the game but this can't last forever. If we do have the blueprint for the future then many other clubs will follow suit. It's great that we can no longer be held to ransom but it will still be very difficult for us to hold on to the very best of them. The simple reason is we are not big enough to pay the very top wages. Let's face it £300k per week for the likes of Shrek is just ridiculous. That would cover the wages of more than half of our first team squad. If the rumours are true then at least 3 of the top clubs are now after Luke and a bidding war will push the price to silly levels. It's probably the best we can hope for that the cash we receive will enable us to buy other top players as replacements.
It's lasted for decades so far going back through Matt, Bridge, Shearer and the Wallaces etc. The beauty is that other clubs can spend on their academies but that won't buy them the pedigree gained over all these years which coupled with our willingness to actually play them is going to be a massive sway to the mums and dads of the 9 year olds who are being chased by several clubs. And now the England call ups adds even more appeal.
That is all very true. We are probably already a good few years ahead and with the young players we have that is set to continue for quite a while yet. The vision of bringing through young players and blooding them into the first team is a really big plus point and that will probably never happen at the big clubs. How many young players have Chelsea got out on loan ,for instance. I suppose the most important thing then, is for the owners and managers to continue with this current vision.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poole Tom[/bold] wrote: I fully expect to get slaughtered for this but what the hell here goes anyway. Like everyone else I`m delighted that four Saints players have been selected for this latest England squad and the best of luck to all four of them. However as Saints fans would we not prefer to compete properly in the cup competitions and actually win something rather than bang on about our admittedly outstanding academy? I`ve put my tin helmet on in readiness for the responses![/p][/quote]No need for the tin helmet. I think most would agree in hindsight that we should have gone all out to beat Sunderland. But it is done...we move on and hope that we give full respect to a trophy opportunity in the future. The key word is 'future'...and the academy provides us with a potentially great future. The Sunderland game pales into insignificance compared to the opportunities that Staplewood can provide us with in the long run.[/p][/quote]We are extremely fortunate that we seem to have a never ending production line of young players. In this respect we are well ahead of the game but this can't last forever. If we do have the blueprint for the future then many other clubs will follow suit. It's great that we can no longer be held to ransom but it will still be very difficult for us to hold on to the very best of them. The simple reason is we are not big enough to pay the very top wages. Let's face it £300k per week for the likes of Shrek is just ridiculous. That would cover the wages of more than half of our first team squad. If the rumours are true then at least 3 of the top clubs are now after Luke and a bidding war will push the price to silly levels. It's probably the best we can hope for that the cash we receive will enable us to buy other top players as replacements.[/p][/quote]It's lasted for decades so far going back through Matt, Bridge, Shearer and the Wallaces etc. The beauty is that other clubs can spend on their academies but that won't buy them the pedigree gained over all these years which coupled with our willingness to actually play them is going to be a massive sway to the mums and dads of the 9 year olds who are being chased by several clubs. And now the England call ups adds even more appeal.[/p][/quote]That is all very true. We are probably already a good few years ahead and with the young players we have that is set to continue for quite a while yet. The vision of bringing through young players and blooding them into the first team is a really big plus point and that will probably never happen at the big clubs. How many young players have Chelsea got out on loan ,for instance. I suppose the most important thing then, is for the owners and managers to continue with this current vision. Clever Dick
  • Score: 3

9:22pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

saintbobby wrote:
This is a very proud day for the Saints. If I am honest, I hoped that 2, perhaps 3 might be chosen, but to get 4 in to this squad is a very well deserved compliment and both a reward and recognition of what goes on at the club these days.

Regardless of the friendlies and the World Cup, what we must sincerely hope is that all 4 players are still at St Mary's next year. Hope they play well and all the scouts etc have their eyes shut. In fact, keep your hands off our lads!
Often in the past we had one quality player in a mediocre team so the desire to leave was stronger and our need for the cash meant we lost them. Now there are several so they are playing in a good team pushing up the league year on year. Also I think we are paying higher wages these days than some fans realise. Someone in the know at Liverpool told me that we not only offered a higher transfer fee for Coutinho but higher wages too.
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: This is a very proud day for the Saints. If I am honest, I hoped that 2, perhaps 3 might be chosen, but to get 4 in to this squad is a very well deserved compliment and both a reward and recognition of what goes on at the club these days. Regardless of the friendlies and the World Cup, what we must sincerely hope is that all 4 players are still at St Mary's next year. Hope they play well and all the scouts etc have their eyes shut. In fact, keep your hands off our lads![/p][/quote]Often in the past we had one quality player in a mediocre team so the desire to leave was stronger and our need for the cash meant we lost them. Now there are several so they are playing in a good team pushing up the league year on year. Also I think we are paying higher wages these days than some fans realise. Someone in the know at Liverpool told me that we not only offered a higher transfer fee for Coutinho but higher wages too. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 5

10:07pm Thu 27 Feb 14

WobblyCat says...

Congrats to all the boys particularly Rickie, what a boke he is, worked his way through the leagues, never gave up. The 'top four sides' in the champions league mustered 13 English players from the 44 they fielded, Man City had no English outfield players in their team. What's wrong with the game? Proud Saint but lets hang on to our boys as long as possible.
Congrats to all the boys particularly Rickie, what a boke he is, worked his way through the leagues, never gave up. The 'top four sides' in the champions league mustered 13 English players from the 44 they fielded, Man City had no English outfield players in their team. What's wrong with the game? Proud Saint but lets hang on to our boys as long as possible. WobblyCat
  • Score: 2

10:15pm Thu 27 Feb 14

WobblyCat says...

pompey in spain wrote:
congrats to all 4 players,though only 1 possibly 2 will go to brazil.they will find it a new sensation playing in front of loud and passionate fans!!!!!!!!!!!
I did actually read that Pompey fans were the most passionate in the world zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Oh I think it was from you! So fish face, world cup semi final, England need to score the last penalty and up steps Rickie, never missed one, do you want him to score or not? Serious question! I want to know how bitter and twisted you are.
[quote][p][bold]pompey in spain[/bold] wrote: congrats to all 4 players,though only 1 possibly 2 will go to brazil.they will find it a new sensation playing in front of loud and passionate fans!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]I did actually read that Pompey fans were the most passionate in the world zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Oh I think it was from you! So fish face, world cup semi final, England need to score the last penalty and up steps Rickie, never missed one, do you want him to score or not? Serious question! I want to know how bitter and twisted you are. WobblyCat
  • Score: 1

10:19pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Stroppy_gramps says...

pompey in spain wrote:
congrats to all 4 players,though only 1 possibly 2 will go to brazil.they will find it a new sensation playing in front of loud and passionate fans!!!!!!!!!!!
always in Saints shadow.
[quote][p][bold]pompey in spain[/bold] wrote: congrats to all 4 players,though only 1 possibly 2 will go to brazil.they will find it a new sensation playing in front of loud and passionate fans!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]always in Saints shadow. Stroppy_gramps
  • Score: 0

10:41pm Thu 27 Feb 14

pompey in spain says...

wobbly..if you think that lardy will be even in the team in brazil i suggest you get a job at the comedy store.you would get top billing.as for england ,ive put my money where my mouth is...following england home and away!! no more...too many prima donnas,and the funny thing is i would rather have lardy than rooney.he brings more to the game than he takes,and more often. as for your comment about pompey fans, which you got a complex about obviously,i didnt make the comment.what i do know is we would not have taken 800 to a FA cup tie supposedly when you got a good chance and squinny when you lose and still consider yourself a big club!! btw i have not got a fish face .......and my dads bigger than yours....so nah nah......did you see what i done there...i came down to your level!
wobbly..if you think that lardy will be even in the team in brazil i suggest you get a job at the comedy store.you would get top billing.as for england ,ive put my money where my mouth is...following england home and away!! no more...too many prima donnas,and the funny thing is i would rather have lardy than rooney.he brings more to the game than he takes,and more often. as for your comment about pompey fans, which you got a complex about obviously,i didnt make the comment.what i do know is we would not have taken 800 to a FA cup tie supposedly when you got a good chance and squinny when you lose and still consider yourself a big club!! btw i have not got a fish face .......and my dads bigger than yours....so nah nah......did you see what i done there...i came down to your level! pompey in spain
  • Score: -6

10:45pm Thu 27 Feb 14

pompey in spain says...

yeah stroopy...only cos the women are bigger west of pompey,and thems throwing the shadows.............
............next
yeah stroopy...only cos the women are bigger west of pompey,and thems throwing the shadows............. ............next pompey in spain
  • Score: -3

10:45pm Thu 27 Feb 14

zurichboy says...

Off topic I know but I see that Osvaldo scored again this evening for Juve, that's two in three games....pl*nker.
We should get him back at the end of the loan period and stick him in the reserves for next season :) Actually, how about this for a scenario....England'
s first match in the WM is against Italy....possible lineup (unlikely I know but...) Osvaldo vs Lambert, Rodriguez, Lalana and Shaw. Would be interesting.....!
Off topic I know but I see that Osvaldo scored again this evening for Juve, that's two in three games....pl*nker. We should get him back at the end of the loan period and stick him in the reserves for next season :) Actually, how about this for a scenario....England' s first match in the WM is against Italy....possible lineup (unlikely I know but...) Osvaldo vs Lambert, Rodriguez, Lalana and Shaw. Would be interesting.....! zurichboy
  • Score: 0

10:54pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

zurichboy wrote:
Off topic I know but I see that Osvaldo scored again this evening for Juve, that's two in three games....pl*nker.
We should get him back at the end of the loan period and stick him in the reserves for next season :) Actually, how about this for a scenario....England'

s first match in the WM is against Italy....possible lineup (unlikely I know but...) Osvaldo vs Lambert, Rodriguez, Lalana and Shaw. Would be interesting.....!
I hope he keeps scoring then they will buy him, we make a profit and go shopping again. If he flops they will send him back.
[quote][p][bold]zurichboy[/bold] wrote: Off topic I know but I see that Osvaldo scored again this evening for Juve, that's two in three games....pl*nker. We should get him back at the end of the loan period and stick him in the reserves for next season :) Actually, how about this for a scenario....England' s first match in the WM is against Italy....possible lineup (unlikely I know but...) Osvaldo vs Lambert, Rodriguez, Lalana and Shaw. Would be interesting.....![/p][/quote]I hope he keeps scoring then they will buy him, we make a profit and go shopping again. If he flops they will send him back. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 3

11:21pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Baddesley Bill says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
zurichboy wrote:
Off topic I know but I see that Osvaldo scored again this evening for Juve, that's two in three games....pl*nker.
We should get him back at the end of the loan period and stick him in the reserves for next season :) Actually, how about this for a scenario....England'


s first match in the WM is against Italy....possible lineup (unlikely I know but...) Osvaldo vs Lambert, Rodriguez, Lalana and Shaw. Would be interesting.....!
I hope he keeps scoring then they will buy him, we make a profit and go shopping again. If he flops they will send him back.
It was an absolute gift of a goal. Osvaldo is a very good striker, but I think he will never be able to make it competing against PL defenders....and I think he knows that too if truth be told. Hope he keeps on banging them in over there so we can bank the cash. Otherwise we have a problem on our hands for next season.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]zurichboy[/bold] wrote: Off topic I know but I see that Osvaldo scored again this evening for Juve, that's two in three games....pl*nker. We should get him back at the end of the loan period and stick him in the reserves for next season :) Actually, how about this for a scenario....England' s first match in the WM is against Italy....possible lineup (unlikely I know but...) Osvaldo vs Lambert, Rodriguez, Lalana and Shaw. Would be interesting.....![/p][/quote]I hope he keeps scoring then they will buy him, we make a profit and go shopping again. If he flops they will send him back.[/p][/quote]It was an absolute gift of a goal. Osvaldo is a very good striker, but I think he will never be able to make it competing against PL defenders....and I think he knows that too if truth be told. Hope he keeps on banging them in over there so we can bank the cash. Otherwise we have a problem on our hands for next season. Baddesley Bill
  • Score: 2

11:26pm Thu 27 Feb 14

WobblyCat says...

pompey in spain wrote:
wobbly..if you think that lardy will be even in the team in brazil i suggest you get a job at the comedy store.you would get top billing.as for england ,ive put my money where my mouth is...following england home and away!! no more...too many prima donnas,and the funny thing is i would rather have lardy than rooney.he brings more to the game than he takes,and more often. as for your comment about pompey fans, which you got a complex about obviously,i didnt make the comment.what i do know is we would not have taken 800 to a FA cup tie supposedly when you got a good chance and squinny when you lose and still consider yourself a big club!! btw i have not got a fish face .......and my dads bigger than yours....so nah nah......did you see what i done there...i came down to your level!
You are referring to Lambert when you say lardy?? And you came down to my level! I may not be directly quoting you but you constantly attack Saints on here so don’t tell me I have a complex, I don’t post on your website! I have read numerous posts about 800 fans to Sunderland but 16,000 in total at the game says that fans don’t bother with the FA Cup, sad. No argument about Rooney, a good player but a petulant tw@t, 300k a week!! Jeez! I’ll tell you now that one of my best mates is born and bred Paulsgrove, we laugh about the footy and our changing fortunes because we know that’s how footy is. Don’t come on here with no other motive than to disparage Saints and then try and take the moral high ground with me. I suspect you are more intelligent than your posts that seem wholly designed to antagonise us, fine but don’t talk down to me, you’re skates and were scummers , rivalry in a nutshell!
[quote][p][bold]pompey in spain[/bold] wrote: wobbly..if you think that lardy will be even in the team in brazil i suggest you get a job at the comedy store.you would get top billing.as for england ,ive put my money where my mouth is...following england home and away!! no more...too many prima donnas,and the funny thing is i would rather have lardy than rooney.he brings more to the game than he takes,and more often. as for your comment about pompey fans, which you got a complex about obviously,i didnt make the comment.what i do know is we would not have taken 800 to a FA cup tie supposedly when you got a good chance and squinny when you lose and still consider yourself a big club!! btw i have not got a fish face .......and my dads bigger than yours....so nah nah......did you see what i done there...i came down to your level![/p][/quote]You are referring to Lambert when you say lardy?? And you came down to my level! I may not be directly quoting you but you constantly attack Saints on here so don’t tell me I have a complex, I don’t post on your website! I have read numerous posts about 800 fans to Sunderland but 16,000 in total at the game says that fans don’t bother with the FA Cup, sad. No argument about Rooney, a good player but a petulant tw@t, 300k a week!! Jeez! I’ll tell you now that one of my best mates is born and bred Paulsgrove, we laugh about the footy and our changing fortunes because we know that’s how footy is. Don’t come on here with no other motive than to disparage Saints and then try and take the moral high ground with me. I suspect you are more intelligent than your posts that seem wholly designed to antagonise us, fine but don’t talk down to me, you’re skates and were scummers , rivalry in a nutshell! WobblyCat
  • Score: 2

11:31pm Thu 27 Feb 14

WobblyCat says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
zurichboy wrote:
Off topic I know but I see that Osvaldo scored again this evening for Juve, that's two in three games....pl*nker.
We should get him back at the end of the loan period and stick him in the reserves for next season :) Actually, how about this for a scenario....England'


s first match in the WM is against Italy....possible lineup (unlikely I know but...) Osvaldo vs Lambert, Rodriguez, Lalana and Shaw. Would be interesting.....!
I hope he keeps scoring then they will buy him, we make a profit and go shopping again. If he flops they will send him back.
Absolutely my thoughts, he'll never work here so get as much cash back as possible. Miss Liebherr will never sanction a 10 mill player again if we lose our shirts on Osvaldo.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]zurichboy[/bold] wrote: Off topic I know but I see that Osvaldo scored again this evening for Juve, that's two in three games....pl*nker. We should get him back at the end of the loan period and stick him in the reserves for next season :) Actually, how about this for a scenario....England' s first match in the WM is against Italy....possible lineup (unlikely I know but...) Osvaldo vs Lambert, Rodriguez, Lalana and Shaw. Would be interesting.....![/p][/quote]I hope he keeps scoring then they will buy him, we make a profit and go shopping again. If he flops they will send him back.[/p][/quote]Absolutely my thoughts, he'll never work here so get as much cash back as possible. Miss Liebherr will never sanction a 10 mill player again if we lose our shirts on Osvaldo. WobblyCat
  • Score: 0

11:38pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Tirau Dan says...

I reckon it is great to have the lads in the squad but hope Wonder Woy is not teasing...will the finals team will be strictly Mancs Pools and London. Our lads need to find the net and need to dominate Pool at the weekend...

COYS
I reckon it is great to have the lads in the squad but hope Wonder Woy is not teasing...will the finals team will be strictly Mancs Pools and London. Our lads need to find the net and need to dominate Pool at the weekend... COYS Tirau Dan
  • Score: 1

11:50pm Thu 27 Feb 14

SFCOLDBOY says...

pompey in spain wrote:
congrats to all 4 players,though only 1 possibly 2 will go to brazil.they will find it a new sensation playing in front of loud and passionate fans!!!!!!!!!!!
Disapointing you started so well but you finished by being a complete knob.
[quote][p][bold]pompey in spain[/bold] wrote: congrats to all 4 players,though only 1 possibly 2 will go to brazil.they will find it a new sensation playing in front of loud and passionate fans!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Disapointing you started so well but you finished by being a complete knob. SFCOLDBOY
  • Score: 1

11:54pm Thu 27 Feb 14

el caballo santos101 says...

well I`ve given them some time to post but its been just under 9hrs since the news broke so. I feel its a huge shame that our regular moaners, who are so quick to come on here and criticise our players when we lose, cant be bothered to congratulate the same players who have been picked for their national sides., still the greatest moment for many players. if you feel so passionate when we lose why cant you feel that same passion when our players get the news they have today? its a massive achievement for luke, lalla, j-rod and SRL to break into the England squad, and I bet everyone of them is bursting with pride and excitement, they will also by very happy for each other.
well I`ve given them some time to post but its been just under 9hrs since the news broke so. I feel its a huge shame that our regular moaners, who are so quick to come on here and criticise our players when we lose, cant be bothered to congratulate the same players who have been picked for their national sides., still the greatest moment for many players. if you feel so passionate when we lose why cant you feel that same passion when our players get the news they have today? its a massive achievement for luke, lalla, j-rod and SRL to break into the England squad, and I bet everyone of them is bursting with pride and excitement, they will also by very happy for each other. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 3

12:05am Fri 28 Feb 14

andoru says...

Blackwaterblue wrote:
Good Luck to all. Pompey once had 5 in the England Team. You can do it!
Keep trying and you'll get there again.The England C team always need players (such a thing does exist – look it up).
[quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote: Good Luck to all. Pompey once had 5 in the England Team. You can do it![/p][/quote]Keep trying and you'll get there again.The England C team always need players (such a thing does exist – look it up). andoru
  • Score: 0

12:23am Fri 28 Feb 14

SFCOLDBOY says...

Had a few ZUBRS (Great polish lager) tonight after working till 10) "made up" for our boys selected for England.
It is fantastic to see that little provincial club SOUTHAMPTON supply so many players to our national side.
Well done Mopo and staff for bringing this achievement to fruition.
Very proud supporter of a great football team.
Never seen the like in 52 years of being a fan.
COYS (We;re going to Brasil}
Had a few ZUBRS (Great polish lager) tonight after working till 10) "made up" for our boys selected for England. It is fantastic to see that little provincial club SOUTHAMPTON supply so many players to our national side. Well done Mopo and staff for bringing this achievement to fruition. Very proud supporter of a great football team. Never seen the like in 52 years of being a fan. COYS (We;re going to Brasil} SFCOLDBOY
  • Score: 3

12:23am Fri 28 Feb 14

pompey in spain says...

wobbly..............
....dont brag you know someone in paulsgrove it lowers the tone.btw my best mates are scoomers over here and no im not more intelligent than my posts.........hang on!...i dont know if that come out the way i intended it to and i love you all really.the next time im on the catwalk in marbella,next tuesday in fact,i shall think of you whilst in my lingerie nite nite youve pulled!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!
wobbly.............. ....dont brag you know someone in paulsgrove it lowers the tone.btw my best mates are scoomers over here[too nice even to call scu**ers] and no im not more intelligent than my posts.........hang on!...i dont know if that come out the way i intended it to and i love you all really.the next time im on the catwalk in marbella,next tuesday in fact,i shall think of you whilst in my lingerie nite nite youve pulled!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! pompey in spain
  • Score: 0

12:47am Fri 28 Feb 14

olddellsaint says...

4 Saints players picked to play for England, if these 4 end up in the world cup, you might as well say that the whole team is going to Brazil to represent their own countries. this must be some record for the Saints ???
4 Saints players picked to play for England, if these 4 end up in the world cup, you might as well say that the whole team is going to Brazil to represent their own countries. this must be some record for the Saints ??? olddellsaint
  • Score: 0

3:17pm Fri 28 Feb 14

Blackwaterblue says...

donni1437 wrote:
Blackwaterblue wrote:
Good Luck to all. Pompey once had 5 in the England Team. You can do it!
Emphasis on the word ONCE.
Correct! Live and Learn!
[quote][p][bold]donni1437[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote: Good Luck to all. Pompey once had 5 in the England Team. You can do it![/p][/quote]Emphasis on the word ONCE.[/p][/quote]Correct! Live and Learn! Blackwaterblue
  • Score: 0

6:31pm Fri 28 Feb 14

lowe esteem says...

donni1437 wrote:
Blackwaterblue wrote:
Good Luck to all. Pompey once had 5 in the England Team. You can do it!
Emphasis on the word ONCE.
..and how they've been paying for it, and we all associate those players with 'them' don't we? The difference is: Ours are mercurial theirs were mercenary.

Local Newspaper Journalist required for Local research project for Local 'Quality' Paper- when did Saints last have Four in the Squad?
Answer please on a (local) rag.
[quote][p][bold]donni1437[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote: Good Luck to all. Pompey once had 5 in the England Team. You can do it![/p][/quote]Emphasis on the word ONCE.[/p][/quote]..and how they've been paying for it, and we all associate those players with 'them' don't we? The difference is: Ours are mercurial theirs were mercenary. Local Newspaper Journalist required for Local research project for Local 'Quality' Paper- when did Saints last have Four in the Squad? Answer please on a (local) rag. lowe esteem
  • Score: 0

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