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  • Saints' six-match unbeaten league run comes to an end
  • Maya Yoshida opened the scoring with an early header
  • Goals from Matt Jarvis, Carlton Cole and Kevin Nolan changed the game
  • Gaston Ramirez returned to action after injury

4:52pm

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4:51pm

Saints' six-match unbeaten league run comes to an end. It's a harsh result on the balance of play, but West Ham certainly took their chances better. Mauricio Pochettino's men remain eighth in the table tonight. Thanks for joining us. We will have a full report and reaction for you on the website shortly.

4:50pm

WEST HAM 3 SAINTS 1

4:49pm

Kevin Nolan celebrated his goal, and the third against Saints today at Upton Park.

Basingstoke Gazette:

4:48pm

Adam Lallana booked by Mark Clattenburg for tugging Mark Noble back by the shorts.

4:46pm

CHANCE (86 mins): Jay Rodriguez fires in a slicing effort from 20 yards that has West Ham keeper Adrian scrambling across his area. However, the ball goes just wide.

4:39pm

CHANCE (79 mins): Mohamed Diame tries his luck with a curling effort from 30 yards. It's extremely well-struck and beats Artur Boruc, but hits the top of the bar.

4:38pm

Saints (78 mins): Steven Davis and Rickie Lambert off, James Ward-Prowse and Sam Gallagher off.

4:32pm

West Ham (73 mins): Kevin Nolan off, Winston Reid on.

4:31pm

WEST HAM 3 SAINTS 1 (Kevin Nolan 71)

Stewart Downing swings in a cross from the right. Carlton Cole's header from six yards out hits Jose Fonte and loops up in the air. Kevin Nolan readjusts and acrobatically volleys it home from close range.

4:30pm

CHANCE (70 mins): Adam Lallana pounces on a loose ball through the middle and bursts forward, but he drags his left foot shot just wide.

4:26pm

CHANCE (66mins): Gaston Ramirez nutmegs James Collins and bursts in on goal. He's quickly put under pressure, with his fierce left-foot shot flying narrowly over the bar. So close.

4:24pm

CHANCE (64 mins): Luke Shaw bursts past James Collins down the left, and cuts the ball back into the path of Adam Lallana. He can't quite get to it properly, and is only able to make slight contact with the ball, as it rolls away to safety.

4:23pm

Saints (63 mins): Jack Cork off, Gaston Ramirez on.

4:16pm

West Ham United's Stewart Downing (left) and Jose Fonte both go for the ball.

Basingstoke Gazette:

4:16pm

West Ham (56 mins): Matt Jarvis off, Mohamed Diame on.

4:13pm

PENALTY APPEAL (53 mins): Jose Fonte gets his head to an Adam Lallana delivery from the right, with the ball appearing to then hit the raised hand of James Collins in the area. No penalty is awarded by Mark Clattenburg, however.

4:10pm

CHANCE (50 mins): Calum Chambers tries his luck from the corner of the area, after the ball was cleared in his direction, but his well-struck shot is a couple of yards over.

4:04pm

Adam Lallana (left) and West Ham United's George McCartney both attempt to get their head on the ball.

Basingstoke Gazette:

4:02pm

The second half is underway.

3:58pm

Adam Lallana on the ball during the first half.

Basingstoke Gazette:

3:52pm

West Ham United's Stewart Downing (left) and Jose Fonte get in a tussle.

Basingstoke Gazette:

3:49pm

Images of Carlton Cole scoring West Ham United's second goal.

Basingstoke Gazette:

Basingstoke Gazette:

3:47pm

WEST HAM 2 SAINTS 1

3:47pm

CHANCE (44 mins): Saints work a smart short corner, which results in Adam Lallana chipping a clever pass inside, into the run of Luke Shaw. He hits a slicing half-volley towards the far corner, but the ball ends up sailing well wide.

3:46pm

Pictures of Matthew Jarvis getting the ball past Artur Boruc.

Basingstoke Gazette:

Basingstoke Gazette:

3:34pm

CHANCE (32 mins): Jack Cork swings in a cross from the right towards Rickie Lambert. He outjumps James Collins, but sees his header come back off the post, before being cleared to safety.

3:27pm

Morgan Schneiderlin (left) and West Ham United's Guy Demel battle for the ball.

Basingstoke Gazette:

3:26pm

WEST HAM 2 SAINTS 1 (Carlton Cole 23)

What a turnaround. Stewart Downing swings over a corner, which is headed against the post by Carlton Cole. The ball rebounds to Maya Yoshida, who makes a complete mess of clearing it, letting it hit him and bounce into the path of Cole, who gratefully fires a shot into the far corner.

3:25pm

The first Premier League goal scored by Maya Yoshida.

Basingstoke Gazette:

Basingstoke Gazette:

3:23pm

WEST HAM 1 SAINTS 1 (Matt Jarvis 20)

Kevin Nolan chips a ball over the Saints defence. Matt Jarvis makes a run in behind, brings the ball down and then slots it past Artur Boruc. Replays suggest Jarvis was just offside, although it was a tight call.

3:20pm

CHANCE (17 mins): Adam Lallana bursts forward from the halfway line, skips past Mark Noble and fires in a shot from 25 yards that sails a few yards over the crossbar.

3:11pm

WEST HAM 0 SAINTS 1 (Maya Yoshida 8)

James Tomkins brings Adam Lallana down with a sliding challenge near the byline, just outside the right edge of the penalty area. Steven Davis clips in the resulting free-kick, with Maya Yoshida rising highest to glance a header into the far top corner from six yards. It's a first ever Premier League goal for the Japan international.

3:05pm

CHANCE (2 mins): Adam Lallana floats a pass over the top of the West Ham defence, which picks out the run of Jay Rodriguez. He looks to be through on goal, but can't quite bring the ball down properly, and Guy Demel does well to get back and clear.

3:00pm

Mark Clattenburg gets the match underway.

2:58pm

The teams are out here at Upton Park. Saints in their away kit this afternoon. Kick-off just a few minutes away. Stay with us for updates from throughout the match.

2:47pm

Basingstoke Gazette: Victor Wanyama

Victor Wanyama is not in the squad today. However, the midfielder was in good form this week, as he spoke to the media. Here's a snippet of what he had to say on chasing a Europa League place (for the full story click here):

 

If we keep performing in this league like how we have been doing, we have a good chance to qualify for the Europa League. For me, I think it is good. It’s a good thing to play. If you are not in the Champions League then this is a good thing to have, to play in the Europa League. It will also be good exposure for us to have a little bit of experience in (European) football.

Victor Wanyama

2:35pm

Basingstoke Gazette: Mark Clattenburg has words with Adam Lallana at the final whistle of the Everton v Saints match.

Mark Clattenburg will referee today's match, taking charge of Saints for the first time since the club complained about a comment he allegedly made to Adam Lallana in December's 2-1 defeat at Everton. Mauricio Pochettino revealed this week that he is "happy" about Clattenburg's appointment.

2:32pm

This could be a record-breaking day for Saints this afternoon. Mauricio Pochettino's side are chasing a trio of records. You can read about them all by clicking here.

2:20pm

After missing games through injuries, both Dejan Lovren and Gaston Ramirez are subs for today's match against West Ham.

Basingstoke Gazette:

Subs Ramirez and Lovren warm up before the game.

2:18pm

Basingstoke Gazette: Sam Allardyce (Action Images).jpg

West Ham manager Sam Allardyce had this to say about Saints and today's match in his programme notes...

 

Southampton have enjoyed a good season and arrive at the Boleyn Ground on a six-match unbeaten run in the Premier League. With 39 points, they are already all but safe from relegation and will be able to relax and enjoy their football over the closing months of the season. It is our job to take advantage of any slip in standard or complacency that may seep into their game this afternoon. We are at home and are in our best form of the season ourselves, so we will make it as difficult as we can for them to play the game their way. Southampton like to pass the ball and control matches, so we do what we can to disrupt their own rhythm and impose our own stamp on proceedings.

Sam Allardyce

2:02pm

Six changes for Saints from the FA Cup defeat to Sunderland. The team has reverted to the side that beat Hull in the Premier League

2:02pm

TEAMS

SAINTS: Boruc, Chambers, Fonte, Yoshida, Shaw, Cork, Schneiderlin, S. Davis, Lallana, Rodriguez, Lambert.

Subs: K Davis, Clyne, Lovren, Ramírez, Ward-Prowse, Guly, Gallagher.

WEST HAM: Adrian, Demel, Tomkins, Collins, McCartney, Nolan, Noble, Taylor, Downing, C Cole, Jarvis.

Subs: Jaaskelainen, Reid, Armero, Collison, Diame, J Cole, Nocerino.

Ref: Mark Clattenburg

1:53pm

Basingstoke Gazette:

Saints are back at Upton Park for the first time since being thumped 4-1 here last season. That day marked one of the most miserable of the campaign for the club, putting then-manager Nigel Adkins under severe pressure. However, Saints return here with a different boss, Mauricio Pochettino, and a far more confident side, and they will be hopeful of securing a much better result this time round.

1:42pm

1:40pm

Hello and welcome to this afternoon's Daily Echo blog, covering Saints' trip to West Ham in the Premier League. The club are back in action for the first time since last weekend's miserable FA Cup exit at Sunderland, and are hoping to extend their unbeaten league run to seven matches. They face a tough test, though, against a resurgent Hammers side, who have won their last three games, are unbeaten in four, and haven't conceded a goal in that stretch. Stay with us throughout the afternoon for build-up, team news and match updates.

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1:50pm Sat 22 Feb 14

WobblyCat says...

Last week done and dusted (whatever your view on it), lets get cracking again with 3 points against the hoofers! I just hope we are over the injuries of last week and can play our strongest side!
Last week done and dusted (whatever your view on it), lets get cracking again with 3 points against the hoofers! I just hope we are over the injuries of last week and can play our strongest side! WobblyCat
  • Score: 4

2:02pm Sat 22 Feb 14

David Crook says...

Lets hope Saints can get something out of the West Ham game to-day,I would hate if after all the hard work Saints have put in so far this season,for West Ham to finish above us in the league after it.
Lets hope Saints can get something out of the West Ham game to-day,I would hate if after all the hard work Saints have put in so far this season,for West Ham to finish above us in the league after it. David Crook
  • Score: 3

2:09pm Sat 22 Feb 14

DisplacedFan says...

Good to see Lvren and Ramirez back. Full steam ahead. Hard game, but winnable. Looking forward to watching it live.
Good to see Lvren and Ramirez back. Full steam ahead. Hard game, but winnable. Looking forward to watching it live. DisplacedFan
  • Score: 5

2:13pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Saint-Popeye says...

COYRs you can beat this ****!! 3-0 win for the Saints ;-)
COYRs you can beat this ****!! 3-0 win for the Saints ;-) Saint-Popeye
  • Score: 1

2:20pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Mush On The Beach says...

G’day all. Last season there was a debacle, time to show how far we have grown a year on. Hoofers 1 Saints 2.
G’day all. Last season there was a debacle, time to show how far we have grown a year on. Hoofers 1 Saints 2. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 3

2:34pm Sat 22 Feb 14

andoru says...

No Wanyama anywhere. Interesting.
No Wanyama anywhere. Interesting. andoru
  • Score: 1

2:39pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Mush On The Beach says...

andoru wrote:
No Wanyama anywhere. Interesting.
Get fit soon Victor, I feel we could have needed you today at some point against these Hoofing bruisers.
[quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: No Wanyama anywhere. Interesting.[/p][/quote]Get fit soon Victor, I feel we could have needed you today at some point against these Hoofing bruisers. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 0

2:43pm Sat 22 Feb 14

redsnapper says...

We can beat this bunch of Neanderthals.

Ricki to come alive. 2. 0 to Saints
We can beat this bunch of Neanderthals. Ricki to come alive. 2. 0 to Saints redsnapper
  • Score: 1

2:47pm Sat 22 Feb 14

el caballo santos101 says...

everton losing at chelski is a great result for us. a win today will put us just 4pts behind them.
I don't see any chance of hoof finishing above us this season and if we beat them today it will put them right back into the relegation dogfight, their still only 4pts clear. hoof aren't a good team and fat face sam is an even worse manager. I hope he go down!
come on saints lets shut the critics up and get a great win by several goals.
COYR`s.
everton losing at chelski is a great result for us. a win today will put us just 4pts behind them. I don't see any chance of hoof finishing above us this season and if we beat them today it will put them right back into the relegation dogfight, their still only 4pts clear. hoof aren't a good team and fat face sam is an even worse manager. I hope he go down! come on saints lets shut the critics up and get a great win by several goals. COYR`s. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 1

2:51pm Sat 22 Feb 14

redandy10 says...

Oh joy! Guly's on the bench.
Oh joy! Guly's on the bench. redandy10
  • Score: -4

2:51pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Norwegian Saint says...

Come on Norway,
Come on England,
Come on Scunthorpe,
But most of all...
Come on you Saaaaaaints!!!
Come on Norway, Come on England, Come on Scunthorpe, But most of all... Come on you Saaaaaaints!!! Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 4

3:02pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Mush On The Beach says...

The teams walked from the changing rooms to the tunnel under the sign West Ham the Football Academy .... it’s about time we robbed that sign and re-homed in it’s now rightful place at St Marys.
The teams walked from the changing rooms to the tunnel under the sign West Ham the Football Academy .... it’s about time we robbed that sign and re-homed in it’s now rightful place at St Marys. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 0

3:09pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Mush On The Beach says...

Yoshi my oriental mushi mushi you beauty!
Yoshi my oriental mushi mushi you beauty! Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 1

3:09pm Sat 22 Feb 14

DisplacedFan says...

Yes. Yoshida!
Yes. Yoshida! DisplacedFan
  • Score: 1

3:18pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Norwegian Saint says...

Great start...
Saints winning
Norway winning
Scunthorpe winning
Great start... Saints winning Norway winning Scunthorpe winning Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 1

3:21pm Sat 22 Feb 14

warrens 76 says...

HELP firstrowsports is not working properly ..please give me a stream
HELP firstrowsports is not working properly ..please give me a stream warrens 76
  • Score: 0

3:21pm Sat 22 Feb 14

DisplacedFan says...

Even the announcers said it was offside.
Even the announcers said it was offside. DisplacedFan
  • Score: 1

3:22pm Sat 22 Feb 14

el caballo santos101 says...

oh joy clutterburkes rubbed off on the linesman now!
even more awful decisions going against us when he`s the ref! really getting the feeling he doesn't like us.
oh joy clutterburkes rubbed off on the linesman now! even more awful decisions going against us when he`s the ref! really getting the feeling he doesn't like us. el caballo santos101
  • Score: -1

3:24pm Sat 22 Feb 14

zurichboy says...

Another lousy decision involving Clattenburg, although in all fairness (ha ha) it was the linesman"s call.
Another lousy decision involving Clattenburg, although in all fairness (ha ha) it was the linesman"s call. zurichboy
  • Score: 2

3:24pm Sat 22 Feb 14

andoru says...

Missed out goal because the broadcast started late. Finally tune in and see two West Ham goals in 3 mins. FFS!
Missed out goal because the broadcast started late. Finally tune in and see two West Ham goals in 3 mins. FFS! andoru
  • Score: 0

3:26pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Mush On The Beach says...

Jarvis was Hoofing off-side ffs! The lino got it wrong, though it was marginal in his defence. Carlton Cole makes it two for the Hoofers, I’m having a 5 minute hubbly bubbly bad trip man.
Jarvis was Hoofing off-side ffs! The lino got it wrong, though it was marginal in his defence. Carlton Cole makes it two for the Hoofers, I’m having a 5 minute hubbly bubbly bad trip man. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 0

3:27pm Sat 22 Feb 14

donni1437 says...

We've hardly touched the ball since their first goal!!!! bizarre game as we looked so comfortable at 1 up..
We've hardly touched the ball since their first goal!!!! bizarre game as we looked so comfortable at 1 up.. donni1437
  • Score: -1

3:27pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Norwegian Saint says...

warrens 76 wrote:
HELP firstrowsports is not working properly ..please give me a stream
Vipsports
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: HELP firstrowsports is not working properly ..please give me a stream[/p][/quote]Vipsports Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 0

3:27pm Sat 22 Feb 14

redsnapper says...

**** !!! What's happening ? Where's Guly when we need him? Come on Saints get a grip, I cannot bear losing to these a****holes.
**** !!! What's happening ? Where's Guly when we need him? Come on Saints get a grip, I cannot bear losing to these a****holes. redsnapper
  • Score: -2

3:29pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Norwegian Saint says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
HELP firstrowsports is not working properly ..please give me a stream
Vipsports
Sorry... I meant vipboxeu.co
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: HELP firstrowsports is not working properly ..please give me a stream[/p][/quote]Vipsports[/p][/quote]Sorry... I meant vipboxeu.co Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 0

3:32pm Sat 22 Feb 14

donni1437 says...

lol 'We are Southampton, we play on the floor'
lol 'We are Southampton, we play on the floor' donni1437
  • Score: 1

3:33pm Sat 22 Feb 14

DisplacedFan says...

Ricky hits the post. The boss is watching the game.
Ricky hits the post. The boss is watching the game. DisplacedFan
  • Score: 0

3:35pm Sat 22 Feb 14

andoru says...

Good to see Kat there at least. Wonder what she makes of this.
Good to see Kat there at least. Wonder what she makes of this. andoru
  • Score: 0

3:35pm Sat 22 Feb 14

redandy10 says...

Kathrine looked slightly peeved. She choose the wrong game for her first away match.
Kathrine looked slightly peeved. She choose the wrong game for her first away match. redandy10
  • Score: 4

3:39pm Sat 22 Feb 14

donni1437 says...

we don't like it up us do we?
we don't like it up us do we? donni1437
  • Score: 0

3:44pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Mush On The Beach says...

Good to see Herrr Liebherr in the crowd, though unfortunately the cameras stayed on her for 30 secs and she wasn’t watching the game, more concerned with her text messaging. I’ve zoomed in on the TV and I think it said buy Suarez or boy this is sewage.
We need to regroup at half time, this is still winnable.
Good to see Herrr Liebherr in the crowd, though unfortunately the cameras stayed on her for 30 secs and she wasn’t watching the game, more concerned with her text messaging. I’ve zoomed in on the TV and I think it said buy Suarez or boy this is sewage. We need to regroup at half time, this is still winnable. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 1

3:47pm Sat 22 Feb 14

bigfella777 says...

warrens 76 wrote:
HELP firstrowsports is not working properly ..please give me a stream
http://hqsport.tv/ch
annel_4.php
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: HELP firstrowsports is not working properly ..please give me a stream[/p][/quote]http://hqsport.tv/ch annel_4.php bigfella777
  • Score: 0

3:48pm Sat 22 Feb 14

donni1437 says...

All too slow from us at the moment, the midfield are not penetrating enough. They too often look sideways or back. Their goals have really given them a boost and we have a bit of a problem to solve 2nd half.
All too slow from us at the moment, the midfield are not penetrating enough. They too often look sideways or back. Their goals have really given them a boost and we have a bit of a problem to solve 2nd half. donni1437
  • Score: 1

3:49pm Sat 22 Feb 14

bigfella777 says...

Carlton Coles supposed to be in Jail
Carlton Coles supposed to be in Jail bigfella777
  • Score: -1

3:50pm Sat 22 Feb 14

DisplacedFan says...

The Scunnies are hammering Poopey.
The Scunnies are hammering Poopey. DisplacedFan
  • Score: 2

3:58pm Sat 22 Feb 14

warrens 76 says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
Norwegian Saint wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
HELP firstrowsports is not working properly ..please give me a stream
Vipsports
Sorry... I meant vipboxeu.co
ta!
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: HELP firstrowsports is not working properly ..please give me a stream[/p][/quote]Vipsports[/p][/quote]Sorry... I meant vipboxeu.co[/p][/quote]ta! warrens 76
  • Score: 0

4:02pm Sat 22 Feb 14

bluewhiteandred says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
Come on Norway,
Come on England,
Come on Scunthorpe,
But most of all...
Come on you Saaaaaaints!!!
Come on Sweden come on Denmark come on Hammers come on Cheltenham home game only £10
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: Come on Norway, Come on England, Come on Scunthorpe, But most of all... Come on you Saaaaaaints!!![/p][/quote]Come on Sweden come on Denmark come on Hammers come on Cheltenham home game only £10 bluewhiteandred
  • Score: 0

4:23pm Sat 22 Feb 14

andoru says...

How are we not level?!
How are we not level?! andoru
  • Score: 0

4:25pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Mush On The Beach says...

I’d rather be a Scunny than a Skunt .... 5 times over by today’s latest embarrassment for those pathetic blue few, hilarious. Come on Non-League football, it’s getting potentially fishier by the minute.
I’d rather be a Scunny than a Skunt .... 5 times over by today’s latest embarrassment for those pathetic blue few, hilarious. Come on Non-League football, it’s getting potentially fishier by the minute. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 0

4:29pm Sat 22 Feb 14

andoru says...

I'm fuming now! Should be storming ahead, instead we're 3-1 down. How!?
I'm fuming now! Should be storming ahead, instead we're 3-1 down. How!? andoru
  • Score: 0

4:29pm Sat 22 Feb 14

redandy10 says...

Bring on Guly.
Bring on Guly. redandy10
  • Score: -2

4:34pm Sat 22 Feb 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
Good to see Herrr Liebherr in the crowd, though unfortunately the cameras stayed on her for 30 secs and she wasn’t watching the game, more concerned with her text messaging. I’ve zoomed in on the TV and I think it said buy Suarez or boy this is sewage.
We need to regroup at half time, this is still winnable.
And the commentators were saying shes not watching the match while the cameras were on her, not watching the match!
I think she had a tablet or monitor of some sort so she might have the game on a screen as well.
We have had some good chances with SRL hitting the post, we can do this but hoof have already had 9 men behind the ball so its going to be tough.
COYR's
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: Good to see Herrr Liebherr in the crowd, though unfortunately the cameras stayed on her for 30 secs and she wasn’t watching the game, more concerned with her text messaging. I’ve zoomed in on the TV and I think it said buy Suarez or boy this is sewage. We need to regroup at half time, this is still winnable.[/p][/quote]And the commentators were saying shes not watching the match while the cameras were on her, not watching the match! I think she had a tablet or monitor of some sort so she might have the game on a screen as well. We have had some good chances with SRL hitting the post, we can do this but hoof have already had 9 men behind the ball so its going to be tough. COYR's el caballo santos101
  • Score: -1

4:36pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Rank Xerox says...

POOR showing AGAIN!
POOR showing AGAIN! Rank Xerox
  • Score: -3

4:37pm Sat 22 Feb 14

redsnapper says...

Ridiculous too many missed chances and now the Neanderthals are in charge. Mid table mediocrity beckons I fear.

Still spare a thought for skunts heading out the league ha ha ha ha
Ridiculous too many missed chances and now the Neanderthals are in charge. Mid table mediocrity beckons I fear. Still spare a thought for skunts heading out the league ha ha ha ha redsnapper
  • Score: 1

4:40pm Sat 22 Feb 14

warrens 76 says...

I posted this yesterday to a resounding - thumbs down…

Our passing football is at times sublime perhaps as good as any in the top four, our pressing is definately top four however our finishing is woeful…

…indeed most teams in the league do not create our ratio of chances not by a long chalk…..

..virtually everyone though converts a higher percentage than us and by quite a margin, were we to be average on conversion ratio then combined with our pressing and passing and chances created right now, today, this minute we would be third.

What makes this so hard to swallow is that WHU, Sunderland, are exactly the type of teams who can exploit this weakness ….

I just do not see us coming up with the goods tomorrow when for an entire season this type of team if you can call them that have been our nemesis.

Were was I wrong..I turned off the livestream because I just could not take it anymore…

..seriously watching us is like being the best looking guy at the party, having the pick up lines, buying the girl dinner and she still shags your mate…really really fcuked off.
I posted this yesterday to a resounding - thumbs down… Our passing football is at times sublime perhaps as good as any in the top four, our pressing is definately top four however our finishing is woeful… …indeed most teams in the league do not create our ratio of chances not by a long chalk….. ..virtually everyone though converts a higher percentage than us and by quite a margin, were we to be average on conversion ratio then combined with our pressing and passing and chances created right now, today, this minute we would be third. What makes this so hard to swallow is that WHU, Sunderland, are exactly the type of teams who can exploit this weakness …. I just do not see us coming up with the goods tomorrow when for an entire season this type of team if you can call them that have been our nemesis. Were was I wrong..I turned off the livestream because I just could not take it anymore… ..seriously watching us is like being the best looking guy at the party, having the pick up lines, buying the girl dinner and she still shags your mate…really really fcuked off. warrens 76
  • Score: 5

4:40pm Sat 22 Feb 14

warrens 76 says...

I posted this yesterday to a resounding - thumbs down…

Our passing football is at times sublime perhaps as good as any in the top four, our pressing is definately top four however our finishing is woeful…

…indeed most teams in the league do not create our ratio of chances not by a long chalk…..

..virtually everyone though converts a higher percentage than us and by quite a margin, were we to be average on conversion ratio then combined with our pressing and passing and chances created right now, today, this minute we would be third.

What makes this so hard to swallow is that WHU, Sunderland, are exactly the type of teams who can exploit this weakness ….

I just do not see us coming up with the goods tomorrow when for an entire season this type of team if you can call them that have been our nemesis.

Were was I wrong..I turned off the livestream because I just could not take it anymore…

..seriously watching us is like being the best looking guy at the party, having the pick up lines, buying the girl dinner and she still shags your mate…really really fcuked off.
I posted this yesterday to a resounding - thumbs down… Our passing football is at times sublime perhaps as good as any in the top four, our pressing is definately top four however our finishing is woeful… …indeed most teams in the league do not create our ratio of chances not by a long chalk….. ..virtually everyone though converts a higher percentage than us and by quite a margin, were we to be average on conversion ratio then combined with our pressing and passing and chances created right now, today, this minute we would be third. What makes this so hard to swallow is that WHU, Sunderland, are exactly the type of teams who can exploit this weakness …. I just do not see us coming up with the goods tomorrow when for an entire season this type of team if you can call them that have been our nemesis. Were was I wrong..I turned off the livestream because I just could not take it anymore… ..seriously watching us is like being the best looking guy at the party, having the pick up lines, buying the girl dinner and she still shags your mate…really really fcuked off. warrens 76
  • Score: 11

4:41pm Sat 22 Feb 14

andoru says...

Sometimes I don't understand football. This game is never a 3-1 defeat.
Sometimes I don't understand football. This game is never a 3-1 defeat. andoru
  • Score: 0

4:47pm Sat 22 Feb 14

bigfella777 says...

Why cant they just run into the box, stop knocking it about and just run at them, try and get a pen
Why cant they just run into the box, stop knocking it about and just run at them, try and get a pen bigfella777
  • Score: 2

4:47pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Saintinwatford says...

All the possession but still not putting it away :0(
All the possession but still not putting it away :0( Saintinwatford
  • Score: 3

4:53pm Sat 22 Feb 14

SnapperSaint says...

Very hard to take from a side that really isn't any more than blunt instrument in a league of finesse and brilliance...
Westhoof are a right royal pain in the @rse!
Very hard to take from a side that really isn't any more than blunt instrument in a league of finesse and brilliance... Westhoof are a right royal pain in the @rse! SnapperSaint
  • Score: 1

4:57pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Rising_Son says...

I have to agree with warrens, finishing needs serious improvement. On the positive side, I thought Ramirez looked like he's about to come good.
I have to agree with warrens, finishing needs serious improvement. On the positive side, I thought Ramirez looked like he's about to come good. Rising_Son
  • Score: 2

4:59pm Sat 22 Feb 14

GHamilton says...

Have said for some time we dont have a world class striker.....any how look on the bright side ...it could have been 5-1
Have said for some time we dont have a world class striker.....any how look on the bright side ...it could have been 5-1 GHamilton
  • Score: 5

5:00pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Mush On The Beach says...

So what have we learnt from last season’s visit to East London ...... feck all.
We’ve been out-muscled again ..... Are we the new Arsenal?
So what have we learnt from last season’s visit to East London ...... feck all. We’ve been out-muscled again ..... Are we the new Arsenal? Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 2

5:02pm Sat 22 Feb 14

redsnapper says...

warrens 76 wrote:
I posted this yesterday to a resounding - thumbs down…

Our passing football is at times sublime perhaps as good as any in the top four, our pressing is definately top four however our finishing is woeful…

…indeed most teams in the league do not create our ratio of chances not by a long chalk…..

..virtually everyone though converts a higher percentage than us and by quite a margin, were we to be average on conversion ratio then combined with our pressing and passing and chances created right now, today, this minute we would be third.

What makes this so hard to swallow is that WHU, Sunderland, are exactly the type of teams who can exploit this weakness ….

I just do not see us coming up with the goods tomorrow when for an entire season this type of team if you can call them that have been our nemesis.

Were was I wrong..I turned off the livestream because I just could not take it anymore…

..seriously watching us is like being the best looking guy at the party, having the pick up lines, buying the girl dinner and she still shags your mate…really really fcuked off.
I guess we need another striker or 2. Where is the competition for places? Every other stat was in our favour except the most important one.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: I posted this yesterday to a resounding - thumbs down… Our passing football is at times sublime perhaps as good as any in the top four, our pressing is definately top four however our finishing is woeful… …indeed most teams in the league do not create our ratio of chances not by a long chalk….. ..virtually everyone though converts a higher percentage than us and by quite a margin, were we to be average on conversion ratio then combined with our pressing and passing and chances created right now, today, this minute we would be third. What makes this so hard to swallow is that WHU, Sunderland, are exactly the type of teams who can exploit this weakness …. I just do not see us coming up with the goods tomorrow when for an entire season this type of team if you can call them that have been our nemesis. Were was I wrong..I turned off the livestream because I just could not take it anymore… ..seriously watching us is like being the best looking guy at the party, having the pick up lines, buying the girl dinner and she still shags your mate…really really fcuked off.[/p][/quote]I guess we need another striker or 2. Where is the competition for places? Every other stat was in our favour except the most important one. redsnapper
  • Score: 1

5:07pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness says...

Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.
Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams. Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness
  • Score: -1

5:08pm Sat 22 Feb 14

saintbobby says...

I just KNEW this would happen

We do not like playing Sunderland or West Ham and need to look deeply into why this should be. They are 2 of the least attractive teams but they have got the Indian sign on us.

Pity SRL hit the woodwork in the first half. A goal then would have been a big boost and who knows...........
I just KNEW this would happen We do not like playing Sunderland or West Ham and need to look deeply into why this should be. They are 2 of the least attractive teams but they have got the Indian sign on us. Pity SRL hit the woodwork in the first half. A goal then would have been a big boost and who knows........... saintbobby
  • Score: 1

5:08pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Rising_Son says...

GHamilton wrote:
Have said for some time we dont have a world class striker.....any how look on the bright side ...it could have been 5-1
With better finishing, we probably should have won by that or more. But, in tune with your usual negativity, that isn't what you meant, is it?
[quote][p][bold]GHamilton[/bold] wrote: Have said for some time we dont have a world class striker.....any how look on the bright side ...it could have been 5-1[/p][/quote]With better finishing, we probably should have won by that or more. But, in tune with your usual negativity, that isn't what you meant, is it? Rising_Son
  • Score: -3

5:10pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Rising_Son says...

Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.
You obvious weren't watching.
[quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.[/p][/quote]You obvious weren't watching. Rising_Son
  • Score: -2

5:12pm Sat 22 Feb 14

el caballo santos101 says...

well it was always going to be a hard game but hat defeat sticks in the throat. we created chances and were the better team, but I suppose that's football. hoof kept chelski at bay all game so we knew how lucky and defensive minded they are. not upset with the way we played as we dominated the game its just a shame that we didn't get the luck that hoof had.
positives to take from the game,
we played a lot better than last week
gaston played really well when he came on
we didn't pick up any injuries, I`m struggling now.
negatives,
we didn't convert, though a lot of that was bad luck and good defending
SRL looks completely shot, or was that just my view.
with nearly our starting 11 we couldn't stop them scoring 3 goals from their very few chances, time for dejan to come back, and this may not be a popular opinion but maybe Big Vic should come back, I know he wasn't fit for today but we might need him next time out.
well it was always going to be a hard game but hat defeat sticks in the throat. we created chances and were the better team, but I suppose that's football. hoof kept chelski at bay all game so we knew how lucky and defensive minded they are. not upset with the way we played as we dominated the game its just a shame that we didn't get the luck that hoof had. positives to take from the game, we played a lot better than last week gaston played really well when he came on we didn't pick up any injuries, I`m struggling now. negatives, we didn't convert, though a lot of that was bad luck and good defending SRL looks completely shot, or was that just my view. with nearly our starting 11 we couldn't stop them scoring 3 goals from their very few chances, time for dejan to come back, and this may not be a popular opinion but maybe Big Vic should come back, I know he wasn't fit for today but we might need him next time out. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 1

5:12pm Sat 22 Feb 14

David Crook says...

What a thrashing,and by West Ham,two bad results in a row now,someone needs to stop the rot,otherwise we will start to stumble down the league,I keep wondering if Pochettino has still got his heart in the game for Saints,or perhaps this is the furthest he can take us.What do you all think?
What a thrashing,and by West Ham,two bad results in a row now,someone needs to stop the rot,otherwise we will start to stumble down the league,I keep wondering if Pochettino has still got his heart in the game for Saints,or perhaps this is the furthest he can take us.What do you all think? David Crook
  • Score: -4

5:16pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Redflag14 says...

David Crook wrote:
What a thrashing,and by West Ham,two bad results in a row now,someone needs to stop the rot,otherwise we will start to stumble down the league,I keep wondering if Pochettino has still got his heart in the game for Saints,or perhaps this is the furthest he can take us.What do you all think?
I think you are a sad apology for a Southampton fan, you probably wouldn't have posted had they won.
[quote][p][bold]David Crook[/bold] wrote: What a thrashing,and by West Ham,two bad results in a row now,someone needs to stop the rot,otherwise we will start to stumble down the league,I keep wondering if Pochettino has still got his heart in the game for Saints,or perhaps this is the furthest he can take us.What do you all think?[/p][/quote]I think you are a sad apology for a Southampton fan, you probably wouldn't have posted had they won. Redflag14
  • Score: 5

5:18pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Positively4thStreet says...

David Crook wrote:
What a thrashing,and by West Ham,two bad results in a row now,someone needs to stop the rot,otherwise we will start to stumble down the league,I keep wondering if Pochettino has still got his heart in the game for Saints,or perhaps this is the furthest he can take us.What do you all think?
I think I've got a feeling even eight pints of Old Rosie couldn't put right this evening. :0(
[quote][p][bold]David Crook[/bold] wrote: What a thrashing,and by West Ham,two bad results in a row now,someone needs to stop the rot,otherwise we will start to stumble down the league,I keep wondering if Pochettino has still got his heart in the game for Saints,or perhaps this is the furthest he can take us.What do you all think?[/p][/quote]I think I've got a feeling even eight pints of Old Rosie couldn't put right this evening. :0( Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 5

5:18pm Sat 22 Feb 14

el caballo santos101 says...

GHamilton wrote:
Have said for some time we dont have a world class striker.....any how look on the bright side ...it could have been 5-1
we had a world class striker but he didn't fancy the prem and was all up himself. if he had turned into the player we paid all that money for it might have been a different story. I`m sure the club are already tracking and assessing targets for the summer window. lets hope that any target has the right attitude.
its a shame dani couldn't be ar$ed to fit in.
[quote][p][bold]GHamilton[/bold] wrote: Have said for some time we dont have a world class striker.....any how look on the bright side ...it could have been 5-1[/p][/quote]we had a world class striker but he didn't fancy the prem and was all up himself. if he had turned into the player we paid all that money for it might have been a different story. I`m sure the club are already tracking and assessing targets for the summer window. lets hope that any target has the right attitude. its a shame dani couldn't be ar$ed to fit in. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 2

5:18pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Rising_Son says...

I think you don't know the meaning of the word 'thrashing'.
I think you don't know the meaning of the word 'thrashing'. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

5:19pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Norwegian Saint says...

Not as disappointed as last week but seeing us miss so many chances cost us... as well as a dodgy linesman... and Clatterbrain not seeing the penalty (again)... and our luck.... and... and... Oh well, another beer!

How did the little Poopey get on today?
Not as disappointed as last week but seeing us miss so many chances cost us... as well as a dodgy linesman... and Clatterbrain not seeing the penalty (again)... and our luck.... and... and... Oh well, another beer! How did the little Poopey get on today? Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 1

5:23pm Sat 22 Feb 14

arfer phesache says...

Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.
Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.
[quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish. arfer phesache
  • Score: -5

5:25pm Sat 22 Feb 14

warrens 76 says...

David Crook wrote:
What a thrashing,and by West Ham,two bad results in a row now,someone needs to stop the rot,otherwise we will start to stumble down the league,I keep wondering if Pochettino has still got his heart in the game for Saints,or perhaps this is the furthest he can take us.What do you all think?
SRL rarely scores from open play these days and were do our multiple chances come from yep open play.. JRod as the front man is not clinical and Adam is a beautiful creater at times not a clinical finisher….

That is the issue, take Nolans overhead kick..we must have tried that 4 times this season..nothing, IF Poch has solutions lined up he will stay, if not he will go..end off.
[quote][p][bold]David Crook[/bold] wrote: What a thrashing,and by West Ham,two bad results in a row now,someone needs to stop the rot,otherwise we will start to stumble down the league,I keep wondering if Pochettino has still got his heart in the game for Saints,or perhaps this is the furthest he can take us.What do you all think?[/p][/quote]SRL rarely scores from open play these days and were do our multiple chances come from yep open play.. JRod as the front man is not clinical and Adam is a beautiful creater at times not a clinical finisher…. That is the issue, take Nolans overhead kick..we must have tried that 4 times this season..nothing, IF Poch has solutions lined up he will stay, if not he will go..end off. warrens 76
  • Score: 2

5:26pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Costa Baz says...

David Crook wrote:
What a thrashing,and by West Ham,two bad results in a row now,someone needs to stop the rot,otherwise we will start to stumble down the league,I keep wondering if Pochettino has still got his heart in the game for Saints,or perhaps this is the furthest he can take us.What do you all think?
Hardly a thrashing.

The game turned on a bad decision, by the linesman, and was compounded by them scoring two more, after the ball had rebounded off of Saints defenders, into the perfect spot for them to score.

The only thing that concerns me, about that performance (other than being on the wrong end of another poor decision from an official), is our inconsistency in front of goal.

It is in the final third that we need strengthening, despite having 3 of the best English attacking players.
[quote][p][bold]David Crook[/bold] wrote: What a thrashing,and by West Ham,two bad results in a row now,someone needs to stop the rot,otherwise we will start to stumble down the league,I keep wondering if Pochettino has still got his heart in the game for Saints,or perhaps this is the furthest he can take us.What do you all think?[/p][/quote]Hardly a thrashing. The game turned on a bad decision, by the linesman, and was compounded by them scoring two more, after the ball had rebounded off of Saints defenders, into the perfect spot for them to score. The only thing that concerns me, about that performance (other than being on the wrong end of another poor decision from an official), is our inconsistency in front of goal. It is in the final third that we need strengthening, despite having 3 of the best English attacking players. Costa Baz
  • Score: 4

5:29pm Sat 22 Feb 14

right back in the bar says...

That pig Allardyce will gloat big time over this but it comes back down to fact that whilst we are great to watch we are only averagely effective. That will not change until our players are coached to use space to run at defences instead of looking to pass and we have a player who can turn defences and someone who will score 20 goals a season. Gaston showed a lot of promise today and could keep our season interesting but today's result again throws emphasis on how last weeks no show killed our season.
That pig Allardyce will gloat big time over this but it comes back down to fact that whilst we are great to watch we are only averagely effective. That will not change until our players are coached to use space to run at defences instead of looking to pass and we have a player who can turn defences and someone who will score 20 goals a season. Gaston showed a lot of promise today and could keep our season interesting but today's result again throws emphasis on how last weeks no show killed our season. right back in the bar
  • Score: 2

5:30pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness says...

arfer phesache wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.
Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.
Actually, I'm a new commenter. I'm just sick of mindless hero-worship from fans who don't know football and don't welcome critical analysis of their heroes. Even the commentator on TV pointed out the same thing about the lack of mental toughness in the side. This team is not getting better. As noted by someone else above, Cork and Schneiderlin are killing the attack in the middle by slowing everything down and playing sideways. Someone else noted that Saints never run at the defence before dishing it off. The attack is way too static and this is because too little physical toughness in the midfield in particular. Sorry, but I'm frustrated and refuse to be a happy-clapper just because some of you want to mindlessly hero-worship.
[quote][p][bold]arfer phesache[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.[/p][/quote]Actually, I'm a new commenter. I'm just sick of mindless hero-worship from fans who don't know football and don't welcome critical analysis of their heroes. Even the commentator on TV pointed out the same thing about the lack of mental toughness in the side. This team is not getting better. As noted by someone else above, Cork and Schneiderlin are killing the attack in the middle by slowing everything down and playing sideways. Someone else noted that Saints never run at the defence before dishing it off. The attack is way too static and this is because too little physical toughness in the midfield in particular. Sorry, but I'm frustrated and refuse to be a happy-clapper just because some of you want to mindlessly hero-worship. Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness
  • Score: 14

5:33pm Sat 22 Feb 14

DisplacedFan says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
Not as disappointed as last week but seeing us miss so many chances cost us... as well as a dodgy linesman... and Clatterbrain not seeing the penalty (again)... and our luck.... and... and... Oh well, another beer!

How did the little Poopey get on today?
They performed well....as usual. Threatening to move up the table....miles away from promotion!
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: Not as disappointed as last week but seeing us miss so many chances cost us... as well as a dodgy linesman... and Clatterbrain not seeing the penalty (again)... and our luck.... and... and... Oh well, another beer! How did the little Poopey get on today?[/p][/quote]They performed well....as usual. Threatening to move up the table....miles away from promotion! DisplacedFan
  • Score: 1

5:37pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Rising_Son says...

Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
arfer phesache wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.
Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.
Actually, I'm a new commenter. I'm just sick of mindless hero-worship from fans who don't know football and don't welcome critical analysis of their heroes. Even the commentator on TV pointed out the same thing about the lack of mental toughness in the side. This team is not getting better. As noted by someone else above, Cork and Schneiderlin are killing the attack in the middle by slowing everything down and playing sideways. Someone else noted that Saints never run at the defence before dishing it off. The attack is way too static and this is because too little physical toughness in the midfield in particular. Sorry, but I'm frustrated and refuse to be a happy-clapper just because some of you want to mindlessly hero-worship.
Can you give an example of mindless hero-worship on here today?
[quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arfer phesache[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.[/p][/quote]Actually, I'm a new commenter. I'm just sick of mindless hero-worship from fans who don't know football and don't welcome critical analysis of their heroes. Even the commentator on TV pointed out the same thing about the lack of mental toughness in the side. This team is not getting better. As noted by someone else above, Cork and Schneiderlin are killing the attack in the middle by slowing everything down and playing sideways. Someone else noted that Saints never run at the defence before dishing it off. The attack is way too static and this is because too little physical toughness in the midfield in particular. Sorry, but I'm frustrated and refuse to be a happy-clapper just because some of you want to mindlessly hero-worship.[/p][/quote]Can you give an example of mindless hero-worship on here today? Rising_Son
  • Score: -4

5:39pm Sat 22 Feb 14

arfer phesache says...

Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
arfer phesache wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.
Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.
Actually, I'm a new commenter. I'm just sick of mindless hero-worship from fans who don't know football and don't welcome critical analysis of their heroes. Even the commentator on TV pointed out the same thing about the lack of mental toughness in the side. This team is not getting better. As noted by someone else above, Cork and Schneiderlin are killing the attack in the middle by slowing everything down and playing sideways. Someone else noted that Saints never run at the defence before dishing it off. The attack is way too static and this is because too little physical toughness in the midfield in particular. Sorry, but I'm frustrated and refuse to be a happy-clapper just because some of you want to mindlessly hero-worship.
Yep, You just proved my point.
[quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arfer phesache[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.[/p][/quote]Actually, I'm a new commenter. I'm just sick of mindless hero-worship from fans who don't know football and don't welcome critical analysis of their heroes. Even the commentator on TV pointed out the same thing about the lack of mental toughness in the side. This team is not getting better. As noted by someone else above, Cork and Schneiderlin are killing the attack in the middle by slowing everything down and playing sideways. Someone else noted that Saints never run at the defence before dishing it off. The attack is way too static and this is because too little physical toughness in the midfield in particular. Sorry, but I'm frustrated and refuse to be a happy-clapper just because some of you want to mindlessly hero-worship.[/p][/quote]Yep, You just proved my point. arfer phesache
  • Score: -6

5:44pm Sat 22 Feb 14

CB FRY LIVES says...

Some you win some you lose.Once again all our possession counted for nothing points wise.I hate to say it but Big Sam outwitted MO PO.
On reflection playing a weakened side last week against Sunderland so that a fully refreshed first eleven would be raring to go against the Hammers backfired on MO PO two weeks running.I'm afraid that he is losing his mojo.
West Ham started with two out and out wingers and it worked for them.MO PO is reluctant to use even one winger so when things go wrong he hasn't a plan B.
Our cental midfield players seem incapable of scoring goals.Our strikers again lookied jaded..Too many shots going astray.
In retrospect we can all see now that the money spent on Osvaldo was wasted.Our failure to bring in new faces in January is now beginning to haunt us.
If MO PO decides to seek pastures new in the summer then i think Katerina might look for a Teutonic manager.I hope MO PO stays but if he does decide to go how about ex Saints player UWE ROSSLER as a replacement.
A few glum Saints fans about again today but hey it could be worse.Just imagine if you are a pompey fan.Soundly thrashed by Scunny.
Lets bring on Liverpool next week and give them a DRUBBING TO GET THE DOUBLE OVER THEM.
COYR
Some you win some you lose.Once again all our possession counted for nothing points wise.I hate to say it but Big Sam outwitted MO PO. On reflection playing a weakened side last week against Sunderland so that a fully refreshed first eleven would be raring to go against the Hammers backfired on MO PO two weeks running.I'm afraid that he is losing his mojo. West Ham started with two out and out wingers and it worked for them.MO PO is reluctant to use even one winger so when things go wrong he hasn't a plan B. Our cental midfield players seem incapable of scoring goals.Our strikers again lookied jaded..Too many shots going astray. In retrospect we can all see now that the money spent on Osvaldo was wasted.Our failure to bring in new faces in January is now beginning to haunt us. If MO PO decides to seek pastures new in the summer then i think Katerina might look for a Teutonic manager.I hope MO PO stays but if he does decide to go how about ex Saints player UWE ROSSLER as a replacement. A few glum Saints fans about again today but hey it could be worse.Just imagine if you are a pompey fan.Soundly thrashed by Scunny. Lets bring on Liverpool next week and give them a DRUBBING TO GET THE DOUBLE OVER THEM. COYR CB FRY LIVES
  • Score: 5

5:46pm Sat 22 Feb 14

GHamilton says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
arfer phesache wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote: Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.
Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.
Actually, I'm a new commenter. I'm just sick of mindless hero-worship from fans who don't know football and don't welcome critical analysis of their heroes. Even the commentator on TV pointed out the same thing about the lack of mental toughness in the side. This team is not getting better. As noted by someone else above, Cork and Schneiderlin are killing the attack in the middle by slowing everything down and playing sideways. Someone else noted that Saints never run at the defence before dishing it off. The attack is way too static and this is because too little physical toughness in the midfield in particular. Sorry, but I'm frustrated and refuse to be a happy-clapper just because some of you want to mindlessly hero-worship.
Can you give an example of mindless hero-worship on here today?
eh.. you
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arfer phesache[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.[/p][/quote]Actually, I'm a new commenter. I'm just sick of mindless hero-worship from fans who don't know football and don't welcome critical analysis of their heroes. Even the commentator on TV pointed out the same thing about the lack of mental toughness in the side. This team is not getting better. As noted by someone else above, Cork and Schneiderlin are killing the attack in the middle by slowing everything down and playing sideways. Someone else noted that Saints never run at the defence before dishing it off. The attack is way too static and this is because too little physical toughness in the midfield in particular. Sorry, but I'm frustrated and refuse to be a happy-clapper just because some of you want to mindlessly hero-worship.[/p][/quote]Can you give an example of mindless hero-worship on here today?[/p][/quote]eh.. you GHamilton
  • Score: 5

5:53pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Rising_Son says...

What exactly did I write that is evidence of mindless hero-worship?
What exactly did I write that is evidence of mindless hero-worship? Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

6:07pm Sat 22 Feb 14

bluewhiteandred says...

DisplacedFan wrote:
Norwegian Saint wrote:
Not as disappointed as last week but seeing us miss so many chances cost us... as well as a dodgy linesman... and Clatterbrain not seeing the penalty (again)... and our luck.... and... and... Oh well, another beer!

How did the little Poopey get on today?
They performed well....as usual. Threatening to move up the table....miles away from promotion!
Theirs a new kid on the Block GOSPORT Borough the second southern team since 2008 to reach Wembley sad Jesus Pérez and Poch will never see Wembley with their attitude towards the cup unlike Nigel Adkins.
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: Not as disappointed as last week but seeing us miss so many chances cost us... as well as a dodgy linesman... and Clatterbrain not seeing the penalty (again)... and our luck.... and... and... Oh well, another beer! How did the little Poopey get on today?[/p][/quote]They performed well....as usual. Threatening to move up the table....miles away from promotion![/p][/quote]Theirs a new kid on the Block GOSPORT Borough the second southern team since 2008 to reach Wembley sad Jesus Pérez and Poch will never see Wembley with their attitude towards the cup unlike Nigel Adkins. bluewhiteandred
  • Score: -6

6:08pm Sat 22 Feb 14

SWAYTHLING SAINT says...

Oh dear, there are a lot of hurt feelings on here tonight. It's not been a good week and Poch's decision to ditch the FA cup is looking worse by the day. We should all try and stay positive, but losing to WEST SPAM is a difficult pill to swallow.
Oh dear, there are a lot of hurt feelings on here tonight. It's not been a good week and Poch's decision to ditch the FA cup is looking worse by the day. We should all try and stay positive, but losing to WEST SPAM is a difficult pill to swallow. SWAYTHLING SAINT
  • Score: 10

6:08pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Baddesley Bill says...

Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
arfer phesache wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.
Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.
Actually, I'm a new commenter. I'm just sick of mindless hero-worship from fans who don't know football and don't welcome critical analysis of their heroes. Even the commentator on TV pointed out the same thing about the lack of mental toughness in the side. This team is not getting better. As noted by someone else above, Cork and Schneiderlin are killing the attack in the middle by slowing everything down and playing sideways. Someone else noted that Saints never run at the defence before dishing it off. The attack is way too static and this is because too little physical toughness in the midfield in particular. Sorry, but I'm frustrated and refuse to be a happy-clapper just because some of you want to mindlessly hero-worship.
For a "new commenter", you sound very familiar to me!
[quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arfer phesache[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.[/p][/quote]Actually, I'm a new commenter. I'm just sick of mindless hero-worship from fans who don't know football and don't welcome critical analysis of their heroes. Even the commentator on TV pointed out the same thing about the lack of mental toughness in the side. This team is not getting better. As noted by someone else above, Cork and Schneiderlin are killing the attack in the middle by slowing everything down and playing sideways. Someone else noted that Saints never run at the defence before dishing it off. The attack is way too static and this is because too little physical toughness in the midfield in particular. Sorry, but I'm frustrated and refuse to be a happy-clapper just because some of you want to mindlessly hero-worship.[/p][/quote]For a "new commenter", you sound very familiar to me! Baddesley Bill
  • Score: 4

6:14pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
arfer phesache wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.
Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.
Actually, I'm a new commenter. I'm just sick of mindless hero-worship from fans who don't know football and don't welcome critical analysis of their heroes. Even the commentator on TV pointed out the same thing about the lack of mental toughness in the side. This team is not getting better. As noted by someone else above, Cork and Schneiderlin are killing the attack in the middle by slowing everything down and playing sideways. Someone else noted that Saints never run at the defence before dishing it off. The attack is way too static and this is because too little physical toughness in the midfield in particular. Sorry, but I'm frustrated and refuse to be a happy-clapper just because some of you want to mindlessly hero-worship.
For a "new commenter", you sound very familiar to me!
I'm a new commenter, not a new reader of the comments. I've read all the "you're not a real fan if you don't mindlessly hero-worship" crap from the happy-clappers for years. Sorry, men play football and when they see young men paid very handsomely to play football, they believe that they are entitled to comment on the footballing shortcomings of those young men without being attacked as disloyal or some such.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arfer phesache[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.[/p][/quote]Actually, I'm a new commenter. I'm just sick of mindless hero-worship from fans who don't know football and don't welcome critical analysis of their heroes. Even the commentator on TV pointed out the same thing about the lack of mental toughness in the side. This team is not getting better. As noted by someone else above, Cork and Schneiderlin are killing the attack in the middle by slowing everything down and playing sideways. Someone else noted that Saints never run at the defence before dishing it off. The attack is way too static and this is because too little physical toughness in the midfield in particular. Sorry, but I'm frustrated and refuse to be a happy-clapper just because some of you want to mindlessly hero-worship.[/p][/quote]For a "new commenter", you sound very familiar to me![/p][/quote]I'm a new commenter, not a new reader of the comments. I've read all the "you're not a real fan if you don't mindlessly hero-worship" crap from the happy-clappers for years. Sorry, men play football and when they see young men paid very handsomely to play football, they believe that they are entitled to comment on the footballing shortcomings of those young men without being attacked as disloyal or some such. Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness
  • Score: -4

6:18pm Sat 22 Feb 14

bluewhiteandred says...

Theirs a new kid on the Block GOSPORT Borough the second southern team since 2010 Pompey to reach Wembley sad Jesus perez and Poch will never see Wembley with their attidude torwards the cup unlike nigel Adkins
Theirs a new kid on the Block GOSPORT Borough the second southern team since 2010 Pompey to reach Wembley sad Jesus perez and Poch will never see Wembley with their attidude torwards the cup unlike nigel Adkins bluewhiteandred
  • Score: -5

6:20pm Sat 22 Feb 14

saintlysoul says...

Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.
Excellent and insightful post and great to see a kindred spirit who's not afraid to be honest - I couldn't agree more with everything you say!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.[/p][/quote]Excellent and insightful post and great to see a kindred spirit who's not afraid to be honest - I couldn't agree more with everything you say!!!!!!! saintlysoul
  • Score: 1

6:22pm Sat 22 Feb 14

redandy10 says...

Poor finishing cost us. We are a better team than West Ham but we didn't take our chances, whereas they did! Now you can all resume your cat fighting.
Poor finishing cost us. We are a better team than West Ham but we didn't take our chances, whereas they did! Now you can all resume your cat fighting. redandy10
  • Score: 3

6:23pm Sat 22 Feb 14

saintlysoul says...

Saints Needs Physical and Mental Toughness has got it absolutely right. Why do we persevere with Lalana against tough teams? He's weak and a one trick pony! Cork poor two seasons in the premier league and not scored a goal - says it all! Shaw at fault again - will anything be said? No. Why not? The whole team needs a shake up big time!!!!
Saints Needs Physical and Mental Toughness has got it absolutely right. Why do we persevere with Lalana against tough teams? He's weak and a one trick pony! Cork poor two seasons in the premier league and not scored a goal - says it all! Shaw at fault again - will anything be said? No. Why not? The whole team needs a shake up big time!!!! saintlysoul
  • Score: -3

6:24pm Sat 22 Feb 14

saintlysoul says...

Sorry two seasons not poor seasons!!!!!
Sorry two seasons not poor seasons!!!!! saintlysoul
  • Score: 0

6:32pm Sat 22 Feb 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
arfer phesache wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.
Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.
Actually, I'm a new commenter. I'm just sick of mindless hero-worship from fans who don't know football and don't welcome critical analysis of their heroes. Even the commentator on TV pointed out the same thing about the lack of mental toughness in the side. This team is not getting better. As noted by someone else above, Cork and Schneiderlin are killing the attack in the middle by slowing everything down and playing sideways. Someone else noted that Saints never run at the defence before dishing it off. The attack is way too static and this is because too little physical toughness in the midfield in particular. Sorry, but I'm frustrated and refuse to be a happy-clapper just because some of you want to mindlessly hero-worship.
and us poor mindless hero-worshiping fools who know nothing about football are lucky to have you, an expert on football and all things regarding football, on here to inform us all where we are wrong and to impart your extensive knowledge upon us. I for one thank you!
being the oracle you are could you please explain, to the mindless hero-worshiping happy-clapping (strange you use that term!) fool that I am, what is it about j-rod, lalla and luke (I only used those three names because I hero-worship them) that is static? or how I never ever see any of them `run at the defence`. I am sure I saw all three doing that today. could you also explain why spider, cork and davis are lacking in `physical toughness`? I would also love to know why the team lack `mental toughness` I`m sure I saw them battling all game against a defence that shut up shop after they scored their second `lucky` goal.
are there anymore wise words of wisdom that you have learned from the `tv commentator` that you could share with the group?

for your information there are many posters on this site that love saints and whilst they want to win every game they realise that the team will on occasion lose, they like to comment on the `positives` of the team and will `debate` the negatives with anyone. what the `happy-clappers`, as you called them (again strange for a new poster to use that phrase), don't like is when people only ever post negatively after we lose and never post a thing should we win or draw. for a new poster on here you have started with a very poor attitude, calling others mindless hero worshipers who know nothing about football, isn't trying to debate anything, is it? it just shows you as someone who has a superiority complex who thinks that their opinion is always right and if we don't agree with you, well you've already said it. if you don't like what others have posted you don't have to read it, I for wouldn't suggest that you don't come on here and post what you want though. football is all about opinions, I`m not always right and nor are you, the difference is that I wouldn't start calling you a mindless fool etc, just because I think your wrong. I suggest you go and read the site rules before you post again.
[quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arfer phesache[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.[/p][/quote]Actually, I'm a new commenter. I'm just sick of mindless hero-worship from fans who don't know football and don't welcome critical analysis of their heroes. Even the commentator on TV pointed out the same thing about the lack of mental toughness in the side. This team is not getting better. As noted by someone else above, Cork and Schneiderlin are killing the attack in the middle by slowing everything down and playing sideways. Someone else noted that Saints never run at the defence before dishing it off. The attack is way too static and this is because too little physical toughness in the midfield in particular. Sorry, but I'm frustrated and refuse to be a happy-clapper just because some of you want to mindlessly hero-worship.[/p][/quote]and us poor mindless hero-worshiping fools who know nothing about football are lucky to have you, an expert on football and all things regarding football, on here to inform us all where we are wrong and to impart your extensive knowledge upon us. I for one thank you! being the oracle you are could you please explain, to the mindless hero-worshiping happy-clapping (strange you use that term!) fool that I am, what is it about j-rod, lalla and luke (I only used those three names because I hero-worship them) that is static? or how I never ever see any of them `run at the defence`. I am sure I saw all three doing that today. could you also explain why spider, cork and davis are lacking in `physical toughness`? I would also love to know why the team lack `mental toughness` I`m sure I saw them battling all game against a defence that shut up shop after they scored their second `lucky` goal. are there anymore wise words of wisdom that you have learned from the `tv commentator` that you could share with the group? for your information there are many posters on this site that love saints and whilst they want to win every game they realise that the team will on occasion lose, they like to comment on the `positives` of the team and will `debate` the negatives with anyone. what the `happy-clappers`, as you called them (again strange for a new poster to use that phrase), don't like is when people only ever post negatively after we lose and never post a thing should we win or draw. for a new poster on here you have started with a very poor attitude, calling others mindless hero worshipers who know nothing about football, isn't trying to debate anything, is it? it just shows you as someone who has a superiority complex who thinks that their opinion is always right and if we don't agree with you, well you've already said it. if you don't like what others have posted you don't have to read it, I for wouldn't suggest that you don't come on here and post what you want though. football is all about opinions, I`m not always right and nor are you, the difference is that I wouldn't start calling you a mindless fool etc, just because I think your wrong. I suggest you go and read the site rules before you post again. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 3

6:33pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Baddesley Bill says...

Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
arfer phesache wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.
Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.
Actually, I'm a new commenter. I'm just sick of mindless hero-worship from fans who don't know football and don't welcome critical analysis of their heroes. Even the commentator on TV pointed out the same thing about the lack of mental toughness in the side. This team is not getting better. As noted by someone else above, Cork and Schneiderlin are killing the attack in the middle by slowing everything down and playing sideways. Someone else noted that Saints never run at the defence before dishing it off. The attack is way too static and this is because too little physical toughness in the midfield in particular. Sorry, but I'm frustrated and refuse to be a happy-clapper just because some of you want to mindlessly hero-worship.
For a "new commenter", you sound very familiar to me!
I'm a new commenter, not a new reader of the comments. I've read all the "you're not a real fan if you don't mindlessly hero-worship" crap from the happy-clappers for years. Sorry, men play football and when they see young men paid very handsomely to play football, they believe that they are entitled to comment on the footballing shortcomings of those young men without being attacked as disloyal or some such.
In that case, I very much look forward to reading your comments when we next win handsomely under MP.
[quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arfer phesache[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.[/p][/quote]Actually, I'm a new commenter. I'm just sick of mindless hero-worship from fans who don't know football and don't welcome critical analysis of their heroes. Even the commentator on TV pointed out the same thing about the lack of mental toughness in the side. This team is not getting better. As noted by someone else above, Cork and Schneiderlin are killing the attack in the middle by slowing everything down and playing sideways. Someone else noted that Saints never run at the defence before dishing it off. The attack is way too static and this is because too little physical toughness in the midfield in particular. Sorry, but I'm frustrated and refuse to be a happy-clapper just because some of you want to mindlessly hero-worship.[/p][/quote]For a "new commenter", you sound very familiar to me![/p][/quote]I'm a new commenter, not a new reader of the comments. I've read all the "you're not a real fan if you don't mindlessly hero-worship" crap from the happy-clappers for years. Sorry, men play football and when they see young men paid very handsomely to play football, they believe that they are entitled to comment on the footballing shortcomings of those young men without being attacked as disloyal or some such.[/p][/quote]In that case, I very much look forward to reading your comments when we next win handsomely under MP. Baddesley Bill
  • Score: 4

6:35pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
arfer phesache wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.
Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.
Actually, I'm a new commenter. I'm just sick of mindless hero-worship from fans who don't know football and don't welcome critical analysis of their heroes. Even the commentator on TV pointed out the same thing about the lack of mental toughness in the side. This team is not getting better. As noted by someone else above, Cork and Schneiderlin are killing the attack in the middle by slowing everything down and playing sideways. Someone else noted that Saints never run at the defence before dishing it off. The attack is way too static and this is because too little physical toughness in the midfield in particular. Sorry, but I'm frustrated and refuse to be a happy-clapper just because some of you want to mindlessly hero-worship.
For a "new commenter", you sound very familiar to me!
Agree.My monies on Thread Astaire?
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arfer phesache[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.[/p][/quote]Actually, I'm a new commenter. I'm just sick of mindless hero-worship from fans who don't know football and don't welcome critical analysis of their heroes. Even the commentator on TV pointed out the same thing about the lack of mental toughness in the side. This team is not getting better. As noted by someone else above, Cork and Schneiderlin are killing the attack in the middle by slowing everything down and playing sideways. Someone else noted that Saints never run at the defence before dishing it off. The attack is way too static and this is because too little physical toughness in the midfield in particular. Sorry, but I'm frustrated and refuse to be a happy-clapper just because some of you want to mindlessly hero-worship.[/p][/quote]For a "new commenter", you sound very familiar to me![/p][/quote]Agree.My monies on Thread Astaire? Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 4

6:35pm Sat 22 Feb 14

GHamilton says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
GHamilton wrote: Have said for some time we dont have a world class striker.....any how look on the bright side ...it could have been 5-1
we had a world class striker but he didn't fancy the prem and was all up himself. if he had turned into the player we paid all that money for it might have been a different story. I`m sure the club are already tracking and assessing targets for the summer window. lets hope that any target has the right attitude. its a shame dani couldn't be ar$ed to fit in.
I agree that we're probably tracking a top striker for the summer, what about that guy from Internationale, if i remember they wanted around £25M for him...my question would be is this too much for SFC to pay for a striker? or would it be better to get say 1 class winger and a striker for the same money?.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GHamilton[/bold] wrote: Have said for some time we dont have a world class striker.....any how look on the bright side ...it could have been 5-1[/p][/quote]we had a world class striker but he didn't fancy the prem and was all up himself. if he had turned into the player we paid all that money for it might have been a different story. I`m sure the club are already tracking and assessing targets for the summer window. lets hope that any target has the right attitude. its a shame dani couldn't be ar$ed to fit in.[/p][/quote]I agree that we're probably tracking a top striker for the summer, what about that guy from Internationale, if i remember they wanted around £25M for him...my question would be is this too much for SFC to pay for a striker? or would it be better to get say 1 class winger and a striker for the same money?. GHamilton
  • Score: 0

6:41pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Kingsland Bob says...

I think MP has lost the plot. I predict he's on the way out. Strikes me he doesn't give a toss since Cortese went.
I think MP has lost the plot. I predict he's on the way out. Strikes me he doesn't give a toss since Cortese went. Kingsland Bob
  • Score: -1

6:49pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
arfer phesache wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.
Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.
Actually, I'm a new commenter. I'm just sick of mindless hero-worship from fans who don't know football and don't welcome critical analysis of their heroes. Even the commentator on TV pointed out the same thing about the lack of mental toughness in the side. This team is not getting better. As noted by someone else above, Cork and Schneiderlin are killing the attack in the middle by slowing everything down and playing sideways. Someone else noted that Saints never run at the defence before dishing it off. The attack is way too static and this is because too little physical toughness in the midfield in particular. Sorry, but I'm frustrated and refuse to be a happy-clapper just because some of you want to mindlessly hero-worship.
and us poor mindless hero-worshiping fools who know nothing about football are lucky to have you, an expert on football and all things regarding football, on here to inform us all where we are wrong and to impart your extensive knowledge upon us. I for one thank you!
being the oracle you are could you please explain, to the mindless hero-worshiping happy-clapping (strange you use that term!) fool that I am, what is it about j-rod, lalla and luke (I only used those three names because I hero-worship them) that is static? or how I never ever see any of them `run at the defence`. I am sure I saw all three doing that today. could you also explain why spider, cork and davis are lacking in `physical toughness`? I would also love to know why the team lack `mental toughness` I`m sure I saw them battling all game against a defence that shut up shop after they scored their second `lucky` goal.
are there anymore wise words of wisdom that you have learned from the `tv commentator` that you could share with the group?

for your information there are many posters on this site that love saints and whilst they want to win every game they realise that the team will on occasion lose, they like to comment on the `positives` of the team and will `debate` the negatives with anyone. what the `happy-clappers`, as you called them (again strange for a new poster to use that phrase), don't like is when people only ever post negatively after we lose and never post a thing should we win or draw. for a new poster on here you have started with a very poor attitude, calling others mindless hero worshipers who know nothing about football, isn't trying to debate anything, is it? it just shows you as someone who has a superiority complex who thinks that their opinion is always right and if we don't agree with you, well you've already said it. if you don't like what others have posted you don't have to read it, I for wouldn't suggest that you don't come on here and post what you want though. football is all about opinions, I`m not always right and nor are you, the difference is that I wouldn't start calling you a mindless fool etc, just because I think your wrong. I suggest you go and read the site rules before you post again.
Look up above. It wasn't me that started flinging the mud, pal. And, as I said, I'm a new commenter, not a new reader of the comments. I wouldn't say a word that is critical of Shaw, as he is bright, talented, and committed. Rodriguez and Lambert are fine in my books, and I think both are very competitive (Lambert is getting criticized as washed-up because he keeps dropping into midfield looking for service - same criticism given to Rooney with his midfield also wanting in skill, funny enough). I think Chambers is another great talent and love watching him play, but, I believe that Clyne is the more polished player at the moment. Good midfields make good football teams. Guys like Kevin Nolan, heck even Noble (not a big guy) always neutralize the boys in our midfield. I say that Lallana is over-rated because people are so mesmerized by his natural skill that they overlook his shortcomings. I say that is because of hero-worship. He should never have been made captain because he hadn't proven himself and, in my mind, and I am not alone, he still hasn't proven himself. Oh, yeah, Lovren is a great talent and he makes Fonte a much more dependable player. But, either the midfield gets tougher and puts more urgency and commitment into its attack, they will stay on the form that has got them 17 points from the last 16 matches.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arfer phesache[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.[/p][/quote]Actually, I'm a new commenter. I'm just sick of mindless hero-worship from fans who don't know football and don't welcome critical analysis of their heroes. Even the commentator on TV pointed out the same thing about the lack of mental toughness in the side. This team is not getting better. As noted by someone else above, Cork and Schneiderlin are killing the attack in the middle by slowing everything down and playing sideways. Someone else noted that Saints never run at the defence before dishing it off. The attack is way too static and this is because too little physical toughness in the midfield in particular. Sorry, but I'm frustrated and refuse to be a happy-clapper just because some of you want to mindlessly hero-worship.[/p][/quote]and us poor mindless hero-worshiping fools who know nothing about football are lucky to have you, an expert on football and all things regarding football, on here to inform us all where we are wrong and to impart your extensive knowledge upon us. I for one thank you! being the oracle you are could you please explain, to the mindless hero-worshiping happy-clapping (strange you use that term!) fool that I am, what is it about j-rod, lalla and luke (I only used those three names because I hero-worship them) that is static? or how I never ever see any of them `run at the defence`. I am sure I saw all three doing that today. could you also explain why spider, cork and davis are lacking in `physical toughness`? I would also love to know why the team lack `mental toughness` I`m sure I saw them battling all game against a defence that shut up shop after they scored their second `lucky` goal. are there anymore wise words of wisdom that you have learned from the `tv commentator` that you could share with the group? for your information there are many posters on this site that love saints and whilst they want to win every game they realise that the team will on occasion lose, they like to comment on the `positives` of the team and will `debate` the negatives with anyone. what the `happy-clappers`, as you called them (again strange for a new poster to use that phrase), don't like is when people only ever post negatively after we lose and never post a thing should we win or draw. for a new poster on here you have started with a very poor attitude, calling others mindless hero worshipers who know nothing about football, isn't trying to debate anything, is it? it just shows you as someone who has a superiority complex who thinks that their opinion is always right and if we don't agree with you, well you've already said it. if you don't like what others have posted you don't have to read it, I for wouldn't suggest that you don't come on here and post what you want though. football is all about opinions, I`m not always right and nor are you, the difference is that I wouldn't start calling you a mindless fool etc, just because I think your wrong. I suggest you go and read the site rules before you post again.[/p][/quote]Look up above. It wasn't me that started flinging the mud, pal. And, as I said, I'm a new commenter, not a new reader of the comments. I wouldn't say a word that is critical of Shaw, as he is bright, talented, and committed. Rodriguez and Lambert are fine in my books, and I think both are very competitive (Lambert is getting criticized as washed-up because he keeps dropping into midfield looking for service - same criticism given to Rooney with his midfield also wanting in skill, funny enough). I think Chambers is another great talent and love watching him play, but, I believe that Clyne is the more polished player at the moment. Good midfields make good football teams. Guys like Kevin Nolan, heck even Noble (not a big guy) always neutralize the boys in our midfield. I say that Lallana is over-rated because people are so mesmerized by his natural skill that they overlook his shortcomings. I say that is because of hero-worship. He should never have been made captain because he hadn't proven himself and, in my mind, and I am not alone, he still hasn't proven himself. Oh, yeah, Lovren is a great talent and he makes Fonte a much more dependable player. But, either the midfield gets tougher and puts more urgency and commitment into its attack, they will stay on the form that has got them 17 points from the last 16 matches. Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness
  • Score: 0

6:52pm Sat 22 Feb 14

saintlysoul says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
arfer phesache wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.
Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.
Actually, I'm a new commenter. I'm just sick of mindless hero-worship from fans who don't know football and don't welcome critical analysis of their heroes. Even the commentator on TV pointed out the same thing about the lack of mental toughness in the side. This team is not getting better. As noted by someone else above, Cork and Schneiderlin are killing the attack in the middle by slowing everything down and playing sideways. Someone else noted that Saints never run at the defence before dishing it off. The attack is way too static and this is because too little physical toughness in the midfield in particular. Sorry, but I'm frustrated and refuse to be a happy-clapper just because some of you want to mindlessly hero-worship.
and us poor mindless hero-worshiping fools who know nothing about football are lucky to have you, an expert on football and all things regarding football, on here to inform us all where we are wrong and to impart your extensive knowledge upon us. I for one thank you!
being the oracle you are could you please explain, to the mindless hero-worshiping happy-clapping (strange you use that term!) fool that I am, what is it about j-rod, lalla and luke (I only used those three names because I hero-worship them) that is static? or how I never ever see any of them `run at the defence`. I am sure I saw all three doing that today. could you also explain why spider, cork and davis are lacking in `physical toughness`? I would also love to know why the team lack `mental toughness` I`m sure I saw them battling all game against a defence that shut up shop after they scored their second `lucky` goal.
are there anymore wise words of wisdom that you have learned from the `tv commentator` that you could share with the group?

for your information there are many posters on this site that love saints and whilst they want to win every game they realise that the team will on occasion lose, they like to comment on the `positives` of the team and will `debate` the negatives with anyone. what the `happy-clappers`, as you called them (again strange for a new poster to use that phrase), don't like is when people only ever post negatively after we lose and never post a thing should we win or draw. for a new poster on here you have started with a very poor attitude, calling others mindless hero worshipers who know nothing about football, isn't trying to debate anything, is it? it just shows you as someone who has a superiority complex who thinks that their opinion is always right and if we don't agree with you, well you've already said it. if you don't like what others have posted you don't have to read it, I for wouldn't suggest that you don't come on here and post what you want though. football is all about opinions, I`m not always right and nor are you, the difference is that I wouldn't start calling you a mindless fool etc, just because I think your wrong. I suggest you go and read the site rules before you post again.
What a load of absolute pious diatribe -
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arfer phesache[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.[/p][/quote]Actually, I'm a new commenter. I'm just sick of mindless hero-worship from fans who don't know football and don't welcome critical analysis of their heroes. Even the commentator on TV pointed out the same thing about the lack of mental toughness in the side. This team is not getting better. As noted by someone else above, Cork and Schneiderlin are killing the attack in the middle by slowing everything down and playing sideways. Someone else noted that Saints never run at the defence before dishing it off. The attack is way too static and this is because too little physical toughness in the midfield in particular. Sorry, but I'm frustrated and refuse to be a happy-clapper just because some of you want to mindlessly hero-worship.[/p][/quote]and us poor mindless hero-worshiping fools who know nothing about football are lucky to have you, an expert on football and all things regarding football, on here to inform us all where we are wrong and to impart your extensive knowledge upon us. I for one thank you! being the oracle you are could you please explain, to the mindless hero-worshiping happy-clapping (strange you use that term!) fool that I am, what is it about j-rod, lalla and luke (I only used those three names because I hero-worship them) that is static? or how I never ever see any of them `run at the defence`. I am sure I saw all three doing that today. could you also explain why spider, cork and davis are lacking in `physical toughness`? I would also love to know why the team lack `mental toughness` I`m sure I saw them battling all game against a defence that shut up shop after they scored their second `lucky` goal. are there anymore wise words of wisdom that you have learned from the `tv commentator` that you could share with the group? for your information there are many posters on this site that love saints and whilst they want to win every game they realise that the team will on occasion lose, they like to comment on the `positives` of the team and will `debate` the negatives with anyone. what the `happy-clappers`, as you called them (again strange for a new poster to use that phrase), don't like is when people only ever post negatively after we lose and never post a thing should we win or draw. for a new poster on here you have started with a very poor attitude, calling others mindless hero worshipers who know nothing about football, isn't trying to debate anything, is it? it just shows you as someone who has a superiority complex who thinks that their opinion is always right and if we don't agree with you, well you've already said it. if you don't like what others have posted you don't have to read it, I for wouldn't suggest that you don't come on here and post what you want though. football is all about opinions, I`m not always right and nor are you, the difference is that I wouldn't start calling you a mindless fool etc, just because I think your wrong. I suggest you go and read the site rules before you post again.[/p][/quote]What a load of absolute pious diatribe - saintlysoul
  • Score: -2

6:55pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Baddesley Bill says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
arfer phesache wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.
Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.
Actually, I'm a new commenter. I'm just sick of mindless hero-worship from fans who don't know football and don't welcome critical analysis of their heroes. Even the commentator on TV pointed out the same thing about the lack of mental toughness in the side. This team is not getting better. As noted by someone else above, Cork and Schneiderlin are killing the attack in the middle by slowing everything down and playing sideways. Someone else noted that Saints never run at the defence before dishing it off. The attack is way too static and this is because too little physical toughness in the midfield in particular. Sorry, but I'm frustrated and refuse to be a happy-clapper just because some of you want to mindlessly hero-worship.
For a "new commenter", you sound very familiar to me!
Agree.My monies on Thread Astaire?
Good shout. He'll probably start trying to get personal soon.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arfer phesache[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.[/p][/quote]Actually, I'm a new commenter. I'm just sick of mindless hero-worship from fans who don't know football and don't welcome critical analysis of their heroes. Even the commentator on TV pointed out the same thing about the lack of mental toughness in the side. This team is not getting better. As noted by someone else above, Cork and Schneiderlin are killing the attack in the middle by slowing everything down and playing sideways. Someone else noted that Saints never run at the defence before dishing it off. The attack is way too static and this is because too little physical toughness in the midfield in particular. Sorry, but I'm frustrated and refuse to be a happy-clapper just because some of you want to mindlessly hero-worship.[/p][/quote]For a "new commenter", you sound very familiar to me![/p][/quote]Agree.My monies on Thread Astaire?[/p][/quote]Good shout. He'll probably start trying to get personal soon. Baddesley Bill
  • Score: 5

7:06pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Costa Baz says...

CB FRY LIVES wrote:
Some you win some you lose.Once again all our possession counted for nothing points wise.I hate to say it but Big Sam outwitted MO PO. On reflection playing a weakened side last week against Sunderland so that a fully refreshed first eleven would be raring to go against the Hammers backfired on MO PO two weeks running.I'm afraid that he is losing his mojo. West Ham started with two out and out wingers and it worked for them.MO PO is reluctant to use even one winger so when things go wrong he hasn't a plan B. Our cental midfield players seem incapable of scoring goals.Our strikers again lookied jaded..Too many shots going astray. In retrospect we can all see now that the money spent on Osvaldo was wasted.Our failure to bring in new faces in January is now beginning to haunt us. If MO PO decides to seek pastures new in the summer then i think Katerina might look for a Teutonic manager.I hope MO PO stays but if he does decide to go how about ex Saints player UWE ROSSLER as a replacement. A few glum Saints fans about again today but hey it could be worse.Just imagine if you are a pompey fan.Soundly thrashed by Scunny. Lets bring on Liverpool next week and give them a DRUBBING TO GET THE DOUBLE OVER THEM. COYR
In what way did BFS outwit MP?

The turning points in the game were, in the first instance, an offside goal that gave West Ham both hope and momentum.
Until then, they had been clueless.
The second turning point came, when the header from Cole hit the post, then took a very kind ricochet off of Yoshida, for Cole to score.
The third turning point came when Lambert's header came back off the post, but fell kindly for a defender to clear.
The fourth turning point came when a "flailing" arm, from Collins made contact with the ball, 8 ft off the ground, in the penalty area, and was not considered a penalty.
The fifth, sixth and seventh turning points came from Lallana (twice) and Ramirez (once) missing fairly straight forward chances to score, when it was still 2-1.
The eighth turning point came when, from a breakaway, Cole's attempt to head for goal struck Fonte and fell perfectly for Nolan to finish.

The only people BFS has outwitted, are those that haven't noticed how the game actually panned out.
That we have been able to open up one of the meanest and most in form defences, as often as we did today, would indicate that MP actually outwitted BFS.
We lost owing to all the above, but mainly due to our own inability to score goals, from decent positions, NOT because of BFS suddenly becoming some sort of football guru.
[quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: Some you win some you lose.Once again all our possession counted for nothing points wise.I hate to say it but Big Sam outwitted MO PO. On reflection playing a weakened side last week against Sunderland so that a fully refreshed first eleven would be raring to go against the Hammers backfired on MO PO two weeks running.I'm afraid that he is losing his mojo. West Ham started with two out and out wingers and it worked for them.MO PO is reluctant to use even one winger so when things go wrong he hasn't a plan B. Our cental midfield players seem incapable of scoring goals.Our strikers again lookied jaded..Too many shots going astray. In retrospect we can all see now that the money spent on Osvaldo was wasted.Our failure to bring in new faces in January is now beginning to haunt us. If MO PO decides to seek pastures new in the summer then i think Katerina might look for a Teutonic manager.I hope MO PO stays but if he does decide to go how about ex Saints player UWE ROSSLER as a replacement. A few glum Saints fans about again today but hey it could be worse.Just imagine if you are a pompey fan.Soundly thrashed by Scunny. Lets bring on Liverpool next week and give them a DRUBBING TO GET THE DOUBLE OVER THEM. COYR[/p][/quote]In what way did BFS outwit MP? The turning points in the game were, in the first instance, an offside goal that gave West Ham both hope and momentum. Until then, they had been clueless. The second turning point came, when the header from Cole hit the post, then took a very kind ricochet off of Yoshida, for Cole to score. The third turning point came when Lambert's header came back off the post, but fell kindly for a defender to clear. The fourth turning point came when a "flailing" arm, from Collins made contact with the ball, 8 ft off the ground, in the penalty area, and was not considered a penalty. The fifth, sixth and seventh turning points came from Lallana (twice) and Ramirez (once) missing fairly straight forward chances to score, when it was still 2-1. The eighth turning point came when, from a breakaway, Cole's attempt to head for goal struck Fonte and fell perfectly for Nolan to finish. The only people BFS has outwitted, are those that haven't noticed how the game actually panned out. That we have been able to open up one of the meanest and most in form defences, as often as we did today, would indicate that MP actually outwitted BFS. We lost owing to all the above, but mainly due to our own inability to score goals, from decent positions, NOT because of BFS suddenly becoming some sort of football guru. Costa Baz
  • Score: 4

7:28pm Sat 22 Feb 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
arfer phesache wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.
Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.
Actually, I'm a new commenter. I'm just sick of mindless hero-worship from fans who don't know football and don't welcome critical analysis of their heroes. Even the commentator on TV pointed out the same thing about the lack of mental toughness in the side. This team is not getting better. As noted by someone else above, Cork and Schneiderlin are killing the attack in the middle by slowing everything down and playing sideways. Someone else noted that Saints never run at the defence before dishing it off. The attack is way too static and this is because too little physical toughness in the midfield in particular. Sorry, but I'm frustrated and refuse to be a happy-clapper just because some of you want to mindlessly hero-worship.
and us poor mindless hero-worshiping fools who know nothing about football are lucky to have you, an expert on football and all things regarding football, on here to inform us all where we are wrong and to impart your extensive knowledge upon us. I for one thank you!
being the oracle you are could you please explain, to the mindless hero-worshiping happy-clapping (strange you use that term!) fool that I am, what is it about j-rod, lalla and luke (I only used those three names because I hero-worship them) that is static? or how I never ever see any of them `run at the defence`. I am sure I saw all three doing that today. could you also explain why spider, cork and davis are lacking in `physical toughness`? I would also love to know why the team lack `mental toughness` I`m sure I saw them battling all game against a defence that shut up shop after they scored their second `lucky` goal.
are there anymore wise words of wisdom that you have learned from the `tv commentator` that you could share with the group?

for your information there are many posters on this site that love saints and whilst they want to win every game they realise that the team will on occasion lose, they like to comment on the `positives` of the team and will `debate` the negatives with anyone. what the `happy-clappers`, as you called them (again strange for a new poster to use that phrase), don't like is when people only ever post negatively after we lose and never post a thing should we win or draw. for a new poster on here you have started with a very poor attitude, calling others mindless hero worshipers who know nothing about football, isn't trying to debate anything, is it? it just shows you as someone who has a superiority complex who thinks that their opinion is always right and if we don't agree with you, well you've already said it. if you don't like what others have posted you don't have to read it, I for wouldn't suggest that you don't come on here and post what you want though. football is all about opinions, I`m not always right and nor are you, the difference is that I wouldn't start calling you a mindless fool etc, just because I think your wrong. I suggest you go and read the site rules before you post again.
Look up above. It wasn't me that started flinging the mud, pal. And, as I said, I'm a new commenter, not a new reader of the comments. I wouldn't say a word that is critical of Shaw, as he is bright, talented, and committed. Rodriguez and Lambert are fine in my books, and I think both are very competitive (Lambert is getting criticized as washed-up because he keeps dropping into midfield looking for service - same criticism given to Rooney with his midfield also wanting in skill, funny enough). I think Chambers is another great talent and love watching him play, but, I believe that Clyne is the more polished player at the moment. Good midfields make good football teams. Guys like Kevin Nolan, heck even Noble (not a big guy) always neutralize the boys in our midfield. I say that Lallana is over-rated because people are so mesmerized by his natural skill that they overlook his shortcomings. I say that is because of hero-worship. He should never have been made captain because he hadn't proven himself and, in my mind, and I am not alone, he still hasn't proven himself. Oh, yeah, Lovren is a great talent and he makes Fonte a much more dependable player. But, either the midfield gets tougher and puts more urgency and commitment into its attack, they will stay on the form that has got them 17 points from the last 16 matches.
firstly I`m not your `pal` and no one has thrown any `mud` at you or anyone else as far as I can see!
secondly you moan that people cant see lalla`s short comings because of his natural skill, would then every commentator and pundit who has tipped him to be on the plane to brazil also not be able to see his short comings? heck even roy likes him is he `mesmerized` by his natural talent? if everyone else is wrong and your the one who right what does that tell you? perhaps you should put you CV into the FA when roy goes.
you say that you wont say a critical word against luke, surely that's hero worship no? I said a few games ago that luke made a mistake that led to a goal against us and no one even mentioned it is that because luke is hero-worshipped by the very people who moan that others do it to the likes of lalla? if any player makes a mistake it should be brought up, however players like guly, hoover and fox come in for awful abuse, is that ok by you? SRL has had a few bad games, but that's ok because all players do, and yes is worshiped by the fans why shouldn't he be? look at what he`s done for/with us. dani however wasn't even allowed to have one bad game by some fans, why? well mainly because he cost so much and would have played instead of SRL. lalla has done a good job as captain so I don't know what he has to do to prove himself to you, personally I wouldn't have made him captain but he is and is doing well. again the midfield has been rated as one of the best in the league, spider is at or near the top in most stats as is cork, whos done a fine job covering for the injured Big Vic. our drop in form has been whilst he`s been out, as much as cork is a great player I would prefer to see Big Vic play because he offers more cover for the defence and let spider get further forward, we have missed his goals since he`s played the defensive role.
as I said no one has `flung any mud` at you until you started, that is of course unless your not a new poster and have just changed log on names. not that I would ever accuse you of doing that!
[quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arfer phesache[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.[/p][/quote]Actually, I'm a new commenter. I'm just sick of mindless hero-worship from fans who don't know football and don't welcome critical analysis of their heroes. Even the commentator on TV pointed out the same thing about the lack of mental toughness in the side. This team is not getting better. As noted by someone else above, Cork and Schneiderlin are killing the attack in the middle by slowing everything down and playing sideways. Someone else noted that Saints never run at the defence before dishing it off. The attack is way too static and this is because too little physical toughness in the midfield in particular. Sorry, but I'm frustrated and refuse to be a happy-clapper just because some of you want to mindlessly hero-worship.[/p][/quote]and us poor mindless hero-worshiping fools who know nothing about football are lucky to have you, an expert on football and all things regarding football, on here to inform us all where we are wrong and to impart your extensive knowledge upon us. I for one thank you! being the oracle you are could you please explain, to the mindless hero-worshiping happy-clapping (strange you use that term!) fool that I am, what is it about j-rod, lalla and luke (I only used those three names because I hero-worship them) that is static? or how I never ever see any of them `run at the defence`. I am sure I saw all three doing that today. could you also explain why spider, cork and davis are lacking in `physical toughness`? I would also love to know why the team lack `mental toughness` I`m sure I saw them battling all game against a defence that shut up shop after they scored their second `lucky` goal. are there anymore wise words of wisdom that you have learned from the `tv commentator` that you could share with the group? for your information there are many posters on this site that love saints and whilst they want to win every game they realise that the team will on occasion lose, they like to comment on the `positives` of the team and will `debate` the negatives with anyone. what the `happy-clappers`, as you called them (again strange for a new poster to use that phrase), don't like is when people only ever post negatively after we lose and never post a thing should we win or draw. for a new poster on here you have started with a very poor attitude, calling others mindless hero worshipers who know nothing about football, isn't trying to debate anything, is it? it just shows you as someone who has a superiority complex who thinks that their opinion is always right and if we don't agree with you, well you've already said it. if you don't like what others have posted you don't have to read it, I for wouldn't suggest that you don't come on here and post what you want though. football is all about opinions, I`m not always right and nor are you, the difference is that I wouldn't start calling you a mindless fool etc, just because I think your wrong. I suggest you go and read the site rules before you post again.[/p][/quote]Look up above. It wasn't me that started flinging the mud, pal. And, as I said, I'm a new commenter, not a new reader of the comments. I wouldn't say a word that is critical of Shaw, as he is bright, talented, and committed. Rodriguez and Lambert are fine in my books, and I think both are very competitive (Lambert is getting criticized as washed-up because he keeps dropping into midfield looking for service - same criticism given to Rooney with his midfield also wanting in skill, funny enough). I think Chambers is another great talent and love watching him play, but, I believe that Clyne is the more polished player at the moment. Good midfields make good football teams. Guys like Kevin Nolan, heck even Noble (not a big guy) always neutralize the boys in our midfield. I say that Lallana is over-rated because people are so mesmerized by his natural skill that they overlook his shortcomings. I say that is because of hero-worship. He should never have been made captain because he hadn't proven himself and, in my mind, and I am not alone, he still hasn't proven himself. Oh, yeah, Lovren is a great talent and he makes Fonte a much more dependable player. But, either the midfield gets tougher and puts more urgency and commitment into its attack, they will stay on the form that has got them 17 points from the last 16 matches.[/p][/quote]firstly I`m not your `pal` and no one has thrown any `mud` at you or anyone else as far as I can see! secondly you moan that people cant see lalla`s short comings because of his natural skill, would then every commentator and pundit who has tipped him to be on the plane to brazil also not be able to see his short comings? heck even roy likes him is he `mesmerized` by his natural talent? if everyone else is wrong and your the one who right what does that tell you? perhaps you should put you CV into the FA when roy goes. you say that you wont say a critical word against luke, surely that's hero worship no? I said a few games ago that luke made a mistake that led to a goal against us and no one even mentioned it is that because luke is hero-worshipped by the very people who moan that others do it to the likes of lalla? if any player makes a mistake it should be brought up, however players like guly, hoover and fox come in for awful abuse, is that ok by you? SRL has had a few bad games, but that's ok because all players do, and yes is worshiped by the fans why shouldn't he be? look at what he`s done for/with us. dani however wasn't even allowed to have one bad game by some fans, why? well mainly because he cost so much and would have played instead of SRL. lalla has done a good job as captain so I don't know what he has to do to prove himself to you, personally I wouldn't have made him captain but he is and is doing well. again the midfield has been rated as one of the best in the league, spider is at or near the top in most stats as is cork, whos done a fine job covering for the injured Big Vic. our drop in form has been whilst he`s been out, as much as cork is a great player I would prefer to see Big Vic play because he offers more cover for the defence and let spider get further forward, we have missed his goals since he`s played the defensive role. as I said no one has `flung any mud` at you until you started, that is of course unless your not a new poster and have just changed log on names. not that I would ever accuse you of doing that! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 5

7:39pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness says...

Costa Baz wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
Some you win some you lose.Once again all our possession counted for nothing points wise.I hate to say it but Big Sam outwitted MO PO. On reflection playing a weakened side last week against Sunderland so that a fully refreshed first eleven would be raring to go against the Hammers backfired on MO PO two weeks running.I'm afraid that he is losing his mojo. West Ham started with two out and out wingers and it worked for them.MO PO is reluctant to use even one winger so when things go wrong he hasn't a plan B. Our cental midfield players seem incapable of scoring goals.Our strikers again lookied jaded..Too many shots going astray. In retrospect we can all see now that the money spent on Osvaldo was wasted.Our failure to bring in new faces in January is now beginning to haunt us. If MO PO decides to seek pastures new in the summer then i think Katerina might look for a Teutonic manager.I hope MO PO stays but if he does decide to go how about ex Saints player UWE ROSSLER as a replacement. A few glum Saints fans about again today but hey it could be worse.Just imagine if you are a pompey fan.Soundly thrashed by Scunny. Lets bring on Liverpool next week and give them a DRUBBING TO GET THE DOUBLE OVER THEM. COYR
In what way did BFS outwit MP?

The turning points in the game were, in the first instance, an offside goal that gave West Ham both hope and momentum.
Until then, they had been clueless.
The second turning point came, when the header from Cole hit the post, then took a very kind ricochet off of Yoshida, for Cole to score.
The third turning point came when Lambert's header came back off the post, but fell kindly for a defender to clear.
The fourth turning point came when a "flailing" arm, from Collins made contact with the ball, 8 ft off the ground, in the penalty area, and was not considered a penalty.
The fifth, sixth and seventh turning points came from Lallana (twice) and Ramirez (once) missing fairly straight forward chances to score, when it was still 2-1.
The eighth turning point came when, from a breakaway, Cole's attempt to head for goal struck Fonte and fell perfectly for Nolan to finish.

The only people BFS has outwitted, are those that haven't noticed how the game actually panned out.
That we have been able to open up one of the meanest and most in form defences, as often as we did today, would indicate that MP actually outwitted BFS.
We lost owing to all the above, but mainly due to our own inability to score goals, from decent positions, NOT because of BFS suddenly becoming some sort of football guru.
If you watched (or watch) the replay, you'll see that the "handball" came off the back of a Saints player's arm, and that Collins was **** because the ref awarded a corner instead of a free kick for WH. Saints fans need to ask themselves why they can't win regularly against sides that are very inferior on talent. Some of that goes down to younger players who haven't yet learned enough guile, if you will, but some of that goes down to management as well. Poch thinks that he's in Spain still, and that brawn doesn't play a major factor in the Premier League. In a few games that may be true, but in any game involving a team from the bottom half of the table, brawn and commitment is a huge factor. The young Saints players don't know enough about how to use their bodies to shield the ball from opponents, to force them into fouls from behind, and to knock them off the ball. In the Premier League, they need to be able to win physical challenges, and not just shy away from them. I repeat Lallana, today, would have won a penalty if he committed himself in the box and forced the foul from the WH player who was closing on him. Instead, he rushed a poor shot and went to ground. That is simply not good enough in the Premier League.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: Some you win some you lose.Once again all our possession counted for nothing points wise.I hate to say it but Big Sam outwitted MO PO. On reflection playing a weakened side last week against Sunderland so that a fully refreshed first eleven would be raring to go against the Hammers backfired on MO PO two weeks running.I'm afraid that he is losing his mojo. West Ham started with two out and out wingers and it worked for them.MO PO is reluctant to use even one winger so when things go wrong he hasn't a plan B. Our cental midfield players seem incapable of scoring goals.Our strikers again lookied jaded..Too many shots going astray. In retrospect we can all see now that the money spent on Osvaldo was wasted.Our failure to bring in new faces in January is now beginning to haunt us. If MO PO decides to seek pastures new in the summer then i think Katerina might look for a Teutonic manager.I hope MO PO stays but if he does decide to go how about ex Saints player UWE ROSSLER as a replacement. A few glum Saints fans about again today but hey it could be worse.Just imagine if you are a pompey fan.Soundly thrashed by Scunny. Lets bring on Liverpool next week and give them a DRUBBING TO GET THE DOUBLE OVER THEM. COYR[/p][/quote]In what way did BFS outwit MP? The turning points in the game were, in the first instance, an offside goal that gave West Ham both hope and momentum. Until then, they had been clueless. The second turning point came, when the header from Cole hit the post, then took a very kind ricochet off of Yoshida, for Cole to score. The third turning point came when Lambert's header came back off the post, but fell kindly for a defender to clear. The fourth turning point came when a "flailing" arm, from Collins made contact with the ball, 8 ft off the ground, in the penalty area, and was not considered a penalty. The fifth, sixth and seventh turning points came from Lallana (twice) and Ramirez (once) missing fairly straight forward chances to score, when it was still 2-1. The eighth turning point came when, from a breakaway, Cole's attempt to head for goal struck Fonte and fell perfectly for Nolan to finish. The only people BFS has outwitted, are those that haven't noticed how the game actually panned out. That we have been able to open up one of the meanest and most in form defences, as often as we did today, would indicate that MP actually outwitted BFS. We lost owing to all the above, but mainly due to our own inability to score goals, from decent positions, NOT because of BFS suddenly becoming some sort of football guru.[/p][/quote]If you watched (or watch) the replay, you'll see that the "handball" came off the back of a Saints player's arm, and that Collins was **** because the ref awarded a corner instead of a free kick for WH. Saints fans need to ask themselves why they can't win regularly against sides that are very inferior on talent. Some of that goes down to younger players who haven't yet learned enough guile, if you will, but some of that goes down to management as well. Poch thinks that he's in Spain still, and that brawn doesn't play a major factor in the Premier League. In a few games that may be true, but in any game involving a team from the bottom half of the table, brawn and commitment is a huge factor. The young Saints players don't know enough about how to use their bodies to shield the ball from opponents, to force them into fouls from behind, and to knock them off the ball. In the Premier League, they need to be able to win physical challenges, and not just shy away from them. I repeat Lallana, today, would have won a penalty if he committed himself in the box and forced the foul from the WH player who was closing on him. Instead, he rushed a poor shot and went to ground. That is simply not good enough in the Premier League. Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness
  • Score: -2

7:50pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
arfer phesache wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.
Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.
Actually, I'm a new commenter. I'm just sick of mindless hero-worship from fans who don't know football and don't welcome critical analysis of their heroes. Even the commentator on TV pointed out the same thing about the lack of mental toughness in the side. This team is not getting better. As noted by someone else above, Cork and Schneiderlin are killing the attack in the middle by slowing everything down and playing sideways. Someone else noted that Saints never run at the defence before dishing it off. The attack is way too static and this is because too little physical toughness in the midfield in particular. Sorry, but I'm frustrated and refuse to be a happy-clapper just because some of you want to mindlessly hero-worship.
and us poor mindless hero-worshiping fools who know nothing about football are lucky to have you, an expert on football and all things regarding football, on here to inform us all where we are wrong and to impart your extensive knowledge upon us. I for one thank you!
being the oracle you are could you please explain, to the mindless hero-worshiping happy-clapping (strange you use that term!) fool that I am, what is it about j-rod, lalla and luke (I only used those three names because I hero-worship them) that is static? or how I never ever see any of them `run at the defence`. I am sure I saw all three doing that today. could you also explain why spider, cork and davis are lacking in `physical toughness`? I would also love to know why the team lack `mental toughness` I`m sure I saw them battling all game against a defence that shut up shop after they scored their second `lucky` goal.
are there anymore wise words of wisdom that you have learned from the `tv commentator` that you could share with the group?

for your information there are many posters on this site that love saints and whilst they want to win every game they realise that the team will on occasion lose, they like to comment on the `positives` of the team and will `debate` the negatives with anyone. what the `happy-clappers`, as you called them (again strange for a new poster to use that phrase), don't like is when people only ever post negatively after we lose and never post a thing should we win or draw. for a new poster on here you have started with a very poor attitude, calling others mindless hero worshipers who know nothing about football, isn't trying to debate anything, is it? it just shows you as someone who has a superiority complex who thinks that their opinion is always right and if we don't agree with you, well you've already said it. if you don't like what others have posted you don't have to read it, I for wouldn't suggest that you don't come on here and post what you want though. football is all about opinions, I`m not always right and nor are you, the difference is that I wouldn't start calling you a mindless fool etc, just because I think your wrong. I suggest you go and read the site rules before you post again.
Look up above. It wasn't me that started flinging the mud, pal. And, as I said, I'm a new commenter, not a new reader of the comments. I wouldn't say a word that is critical of Shaw, as he is bright, talented, and committed. Rodriguez and Lambert are fine in my books, and I think both are very competitive (Lambert is getting criticized as washed-up because he keeps dropping into midfield looking for service - same criticism given to Rooney with his midfield also wanting in skill, funny enough). I think Chambers is another great talent and love watching him play, but, I believe that Clyne is the more polished player at the moment. Good midfields make good football teams. Guys like Kevin Nolan, heck even Noble (not a big guy) always neutralize the boys in our midfield. I say that Lallana is over-rated because people are so mesmerized by his natural skill that they overlook his shortcomings. I say that is because of hero-worship. He should never have been made captain because he hadn't proven himself and, in my mind, and I am not alone, he still hasn't proven himself. Oh, yeah, Lovren is a great talent and he makes Fonte a much more dependable player. But, either the midfield gets tougher and puts more urgency and commitment into its attack, they will stay on the form that has got them 17 points from the last 16 matches.
firstly I`m not your `pal` and no one has thrown any `mud` at you or anyone else as far as I can see!
secondly you moan that people cant see lalla`s short comings because of his natural skill, would then every commentator and pundit who has tipped him to be on the plane to brazil also not be able to see his short comings? heck even roy likes him is he `mesmerized` by his natural talent? if everyone else is wrong and your the one who right what does that tell you? perhaps you should put you CV into the FA when roy goes.
you say that you wont say a critical word against luke, surely that's hero worship no? I said a few games ago that luke made a mistake that led to a goal against us and no one even mentioned it is that because luke is hero-worshipped by the very people who moan that others do it to the likes of lalla? if any player makes a mistake it should be brought up, however players like guly, hoover and fox come in for awful abuse, is that ok by you? SRL has had a few bad games, but that's ok because all players do, and yes is worshiped by the fans why shouldn't he be? look at what he`s done for/with us. dani however wasn't even allowed to have one bad game by some fans, why? well mainly because he cost so much and would have played instead of SRL. lalla has done a good job as captain so I don't know what he has to do to prove himself to you, personally I wouldn't have made him captain but he is and is doing well. again the midfield has been rated as one of the best in the league, spider is at or near the top in most stats as is cork, whos done a fine job covering for the injured Big Vic. our drop in form has been whilst he`s been out, as much as cork is a great player I would prefer to see Big Vic play because he offers more cover for the defence and let spider get further forward, we have missed his goals since he`s played the defensive role.
as I said no one has `flung any mud` at you until you started, that is of course unless your not a new poster and have just changed log on names. not that I would ever accuse you of doing that!
Well, Luke Shaw is committed. Lallana, not so much. That's why I'm critical of Lallana. Now, go dry your tears.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arfer phesache[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.[/p][/quote]Actually, I'm a new commenter. I'm just sick of mindless hero-worship from fans who don't know football and don't welcome critical analysis of their heroes. Even the commentator on TV pointed out the same thing about the lack of mental toughness in the side. This team is not getting better. As noted by someone else above, Cork and Schneiderlin are killing the attack in the middle by slowing everything down and playing sideways. Someone else noted that Saints never run at the defence before dishing it off. The attack is way too static and this is because too little physical toughness in the midfield in particular. Sorry, but I'm frustrated and refuse to be a happy-clapper just because some of you want to mindlessly hero-worship.[/p][/quote]and us poor mindless hero-worshiping fools who know nothing about football are lucky to have you, an expert on football and all things regarding football, on here to inform us all where we are wrong and to impart your extensive knowledge upon us. I for one thank you! being the oracle you are could you please explain, to the mindless hero-worshiping happy-clapping (strange you use that term!) fool that I am, what is it about j-rod, lalla and luke (I only used those three names because I hero-worship them) that is static? or how I never ever see any of them `run at the defence`. I am sure I saw all three doing that today. could you also explain why spider, cork and davis are lacking in `physical toughness`? I would also love to know why the team lack `mental toughness` I`m sure I saw them battling all game against a defence that shut up shop after they scored their second `lucky` goal. are there anymore wise words of wisdom that you have learned from the `tv commentator` that you could share with the group? for your information there are many posters on this site that love saints and whilst they want to win every game they realise that the team will on occasion lose, they like to comment on the `positives` of the team and will `debate` the negatives with anyone. what the `happy-clappers`, as you called them (again strange for a new poster to use that phrase), don't like is when people only ever post negatively after we lose and never post a thing should we win or draw. for a new poster on here you have started with a very poor attitude, calling others mindless hero worshipers who know nothing about football, isn't trying to debate anything, is it? it just shows you as someone who has a superiority complex who thinks that their opinion is always right and if we don't agree with you, well you've already said it. if you don't like what others have posted you don't have to read it, I for wouldn't suggest that you don't come on here and post what you want though. football is all about opinions, I`m not always right and nor are you, the difference is that I wouldn't start calling you a mindless fool etc, just because I think your wrong. I suggest you go and read the site rules before you post again.[/p][/quote]Look up above. It wasn't me that started flinging the mud, pal. And, as I said, I'm a new commenter, not a new reader of the comments. I wouldn't say a word that is critical of Shaw, as he is bright, talented, and committed. Rodriguez and Lambert are fine in my books, and I think both are very competitive (Lambert is getting criticized as washed-up because he keeps dropping into midfield looking for service - same criticism given to Rooney with his midfield also wanting in skill, funny enough). I think Chambers is another great talent and love watching him play, but, I believe that Clyne is the more polished player at the moment. Good midfields make good football teams. Guys like Kevin Nolan, heck even Noble (not a big guy) always neutralize the boys in our midfield. I say that Lallana is over-rated because people are so mesmerized by his natural skill that they overlook his shortcomings. I say that is because of hero-worship. He should never have been made captain because he hadn't proven himself and, in my mind, and I am not alone, he still hasn't proven himself. Oh, yeah, Lovren is a great talent and he makes Fonte a much more dependable player. But, either the midfield gets tougher and puts more urgency and commitment into its attack, they will stay on the form that has got them 17 points from the last 16 matches.[/p][/quote]firstly I`m not your `pal` and no one has thrown any `mud` at you or anyone else as far as I can see! secondly you moan that people cant see lalla`s short comings because of his natural skill, would then every commentator and pundit who has tipped him to be on the plane to brazil also not be able to see his short comings? heck even roy likes him is he `mesmerized` by his natural talent? if everyone else is wrong and your the one who right what does that tell you? perhaps you should put you CV into the FA when roy goes. you say that you wont say a critical word against luke, surely that's hero worship no? I said a few games ago that luke made a mistake that led to a goal against us and no one even mentioned it is that because luke is hero-worshipped by the very people who moan that others do it to the likes of lalla? if any player makes a mistake it should be brought up, however players like guly, hoover and fox come in for awful abuse, is that ok by you? SRL has had a few bad games, but that's ok because all players do, and yes is worshiped by the fans why shouldn't he be? look at what he`s done for/with us. dani however wasn't even allowed to have one bad game by some fans, why? well mainly because he cost so much and would have played instead of SRL. lalla has done a good job as captain so I don't know what he has to do to prove himself to you, personally I wouldn't have made him captain but he is and is doing well. again the midfield has been rated as one of the best in the league, spider is at or near the top in most stats as is cork, whos done a fine job covering for the injured Big Vic. our drop in form has been whilst he`s been out, as much as cork is a great player I would prefer to see Big Vic play because he offers more cover for the defence and let spider get further forward, we have missed his goals since he`s played the defensive role. as I said no one has `flung any mud` at you until you started, that is of course unless your not a new poster and have just changed log on names. not that I would ever accuse you of doing that![/p][/quote]Well, Luke Shaw is committed. Lallana, not so much. That's why I'm critical of Lallana. Now, go dry your tears. Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness
  • Score: -5

7:53pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
arfer phesache wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.
Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.
Actually, I'm a new commenter. I'm just sick of mindless hero-worship from fans who don't know football and don't welcome critical analysis of their heroes. Even the commentator on TV pointed out the same thing about the lack of mental toughness in the side. This team is not getting better. As noted by someone else above, Cork and Schneiderlin are killing the attack in the middle by slowing everything down and playing sideways. Someone else noted that Saints never run at the defence before dishing it off. The attack is way too static and this is because too little physical toughness in the midfield in particular. Sorry, but I'm frustrated and refuse to be a happy-clapper just because some of you want to mindlessly hero-worship.
and us poor mindless hero-worshiping fools who know nothing about football are lucky to have you, an expert on football and all things regarding football, on here to inform us all where we are wrong and to impart your extensive knowledge upon us. I for one thank you!
being the oracle you are could you please explain, to the mindless hero-worshiping happy-clapping (strange you use that term!) fool that I am, what is it about j-rod, lalla and luke (I only used those three names because I hero-worship them) that is static? or how I never ever see any of them `run at the defence`. I am sure I saw all three doing that today. could you also explain why spider, cork and davis are lacking in `physical toughness`? I would also love to know why the team lack `mental toughness` I`m sure I saw them battling all game against a defence that shut up shop after they scored their second `lucky` goal.
are there anymore wise words of wisdom that you have learned from the `tv commentator` that you could share with the group?

for your information there are many posters on this site that love saints and whilst they want to win every game they realise that the team will on occasion lose, they like to comment on the `positives` of the team and will `debate` the negatives with anyone. what the `happy-clappers`, as you called them (again strange for a new poster to use that phrase), don't like is when people only ever post negatively after we lose and never post a thing should we win or draw. for a new poster on here you have started with a very poor attitude, calling others mindless hero worshipers who know nothing about football, isn't trying to debate anything, is it? it just shows you as someone who has a superiority complex who thinks that their opinion is always right and if we don't agree with you, well you've already said it. if you don't like what others have posted you don't have to read it, I for wouldn't suggest that you don't come on here and post what you want though. football is all about opinions, I`m not always right and nor are you, the difference is that I wouldn't start calling you a mindless fool etc, just because I think your wrong. I suggest you go and read the site rules before you post again.
Look up above. It wasn't me that started flinging the mud, pal. And, as I said, I'm a new commenter, not a new reader of the comments. I wouldn't say a word that is critical of Shaw, as he is bright, talented, and committed. Rodriguez and Lambert are fine in my books, and I think both are very competitive (Lambert is getting criticized as washed-up because he keeps dropping into midfield looking for service - same criticism given to Rooney with his midfield also wanting in skill, funny enough). I think Chambers is another great talent and love watching him play, but, I believe that Clyne is the more polished player at the moment. Good midfields make good football teams. Guys like Kevin Nolan, heck even Noble (not a big guy) always neutralize the boys in our midfield. I say that Lallana is over-rated because people are so mesmerized by his natural skill that they overlook his shortcomings. I say that is because of hero-worship. He should never have been made captain because he hadn't proven himself and, in my mind, and I am not alone, he still hasn't proven himself. Oh, yeah, Lovren is a great talent and he makes Fonte a much more dependable player. But, either the midfield gets tougher and puts more urgency and commitment into its attack, they will stay on the form that has got them 17 points from the last 16 matches.
firstly I`m not your `pal` and no one has thrown any `mud` at you or anyone else as far as I can see!
secondly you moan that people cant see lalla`s short comings because of his natural skill, would then every commentator and pundit who has tipped him to be on the plane to brazil also not be able to see his short comings? heck even roy likes him is he `mesmerized` by his natural talent? if everyone else is wrong and your the one who right what does that tell you? perhaps you should put you CV into the FA when roy goes.
you say that you wont say a critical word against luke, surely that's hero worship no? I said a few games ago that luke made a mistake that led to a goal against us and no one even mentioned it is that because luke is hero-worshipped by the very people who moan that others do it to the likes of lalla? if any player makes a mistake it should be brought up, however players like guly, hoover and fox come in for awful abuse, is that ok by you? SRL has had a few bad games, but that's ok because all players do, and yes is worshiped by the fans why shouldn't he be? look at what he`s done for/with us. dani however wasn't even allowed to have one bad game by some fans, why? well mainly because he cost so much and would have played instead of SRL. lalla has done a good job as captain so I don't know what he has to do to prove himself to you, personally I wouldn't have made him captain but he is and is doing well. again the midfield has been rated as one of the best in the league, spider is at or near the top in most stats as is cork, whos done a fine job covering for the injured Big Vic. our drop in form has been whilst he`s been out, as much as cork is a great player I would prefer to see Big Vic play because he offers more cover for the defence and let spider get further forward, we have missed his goals since he`s played the defensive role.
as I said no one has `flung any mud` at you until you started, that is of course unless your not a new poster and have just changed log on names. not that I would ever accuse you of doing that!
Well, Luke Shaw is committed. Lallana, not so much. That's why I'm critical of Lallana. Now, go dry your tears.
C'mon Thread..we know its you! ;0)
[quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arfer phesache[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.[/p][/quote]Actually, I'm a new commenter. I'm just sick of mindless hero-worship from fans who don't know football and don't welcome critical analysis of their heroes. Even the commentator on TV pointed out the same thing about the lack of mental toughness in the side. This team is not getting better. As noted by someone else above, Cork and Schneiderlin are killing the attack in the middle by slowing everything down and playing sideways. Someone else noted that Saints never run at the defence before dishing it off. The attack is way too static and this is because too little physical toughness in the midfield in particular. Sorry, but I'm frustrated and refuse to be a happy-clapper just because some of you want to mindlessly hero-worship.[/p][/quote]and us poor mindless hero-worshiping fools who know nothing about football are lucky to have you, an expert on football and all things regarding football, on here to inform us all where we are wrong and to impart your extensive knowledge upon us. I for one thank you! being the oracle you are could you please explain, to the mindless hero-worshiping happy-clapping (strange you use that term!) fool that I am, what is it about j-rod, lalla and luke (I only used those three names because I hero-worship them) that is static? or how I never ever see any of them `run at the defence`. I am sure I saw all three doing that today. could you also explain why spider, cork and davis are lacking in `physical toughness`? I would also love to know why the team lack `mental toughness` I`m sure I saw them battling all game against a defence that shut up shop after they scored their second `lucky` goal. are there anymore wise words of wisdom that you have learned from the `tv commentator` that you could share with the group? for your information there are many posters on this site that love saints and whilst they want to win every game they realise that the team will on occasion lose, they like to comment on the `positives` of the team and will `debate` the negatives with anyone. what the `happy-clappers`, as you called them (again strange for a new poster to use that phrase), don't like is when people only ever post negatively after we lose and never post a thing should we win or draw. for a new poster on here you have started with a very poor attitude, calling others mindless hero worshipers who know nothing about football, isn't trying to debate anything, is it? it just shows you as someone who has a superiority complex who thinks that their opinion is always right and if we don't agree with you, well you've already said it. if you don't like what others have posted you don't have to read it, I for wouldn't suggest that you don't come on here and post what you want though. football is all about opinions, I`m not always right and nor are you, the difference is that I wouldn't start calling you a mindless fool etc, just because I think your wrong. I suggest you go and read the site rules before you post again.[/p][/quote]Look up above. It wasn't me that started flinging the mud, pal. And, as I said, I'm a new commenter, not a new reader of the comments. I wouldn't say a word that is critical of Shaw, as he is bright, talented, and committed. Rodriguez and Lambert are fine in my books, and I think both are very competitive (Lambert is getting criticized as washed-up because he keeps dropping into midfield looking for service - same criticism given to Rooney with his midfield also wanting in skill, funny enough). I think Chambers is another great talent and love watching him play, but, I believe that Clyne is the more polished player at the moment. Good midfields make good football teams. Guys like Kevin Nolan, heck even Noble (not a big guy) always neutralize the boys in our midfield. I say that Lallana is over-rated because people are so mesmerized by his natural skill that they overlook his shortcomings. I say that is because of hero-worship. He should never have been made captain because he hadn't proven himself and, in my mind, and I am not alone, he still hasn't proven himself. Oh, yeah, Lovren is a great talent and he makes Fonte a much more dependable player. But, either the midfield gets tougher and puts more urgency and commitment into its attack, they will stay on the form that has got them 17 points from the last 16 matches.[/p][/quote]firstly I`m not your `pal` and no one has thrown any `mud` at you or anyone else as far as I can see! secondly you moan that people cant see lalla`s short comings because of his natural skill, would then every commentator and pundit who has tipped him to be on the plane to brazil also not be able to see his short comings? heck even roy likes him is he `mesmerized` by his natural talent? if everyone else is wrong and your the one who right what does that tell you? perhaps you should put you CV into the FA when roy goes. you say that you wont say a critical word against luke, surely that's hero worship no? I said a few games ago that luke made a mistake that led to a goal against us and no one even mentioned it is that because luke is hero-worshipped by the very people who moan that others do it to the likes of lalla? if any player makes a mistake it should be brought up, however players like guly, hoover and fox come in for awful abuse, is that ok by you? SRL has had a few bad games, but that's ok because all players do, and yes is worshiped by the fans why shouldn't he be? look at what he`s done for/with us. dani however wasn't even allowed to have one bad game by some fans, why? well mainly because he cost so much and would have played instead of SRL. lalla has done a good job as captain so I don't know what he has to do to prove himself to you, personally I wouldn't have made him captain but he is and is doing well. again the midfield has been rated as one of the best in the league, spider is at or near the top in most stats as is cork, whos done a fine job covering for the injured Big Vic. our drop in form has been whilst he`s been out, as much as cork is a great player I would prefer to see Big Vic play because he offers more cover for the defence and let spider get further forward, we have missed his goals since he`s played the defensive role. as I said no one has `flung any mud` at you until you started, that is of course unless your not a new poster and have just changed log on names. not that I would ever accuse you of doing that![/p][/quote]Well, Luke Shaw is committed. Lallana, not so much. That's why I'm critical of Lallana. Now, go dry your tears.[/p][/quote]C'mon Thread..we know its you! ;0) Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 5

8:16pm Sat 22 Feb 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
arfer phesache wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.
Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.
Actually, I'm a new commenter. I'm just sick of mindless hero-worship from fans who don't know football and don't welcome critical analysis of their heroes. Even the commentator on TV pointed out the same thing about the lack of mental toughness in the side. This team is not getting better. As noted by someone else above, Cork and Schneiderlin are killing the attack in the middle by slowing everything down and playing sideways. Someone else noted that Saints never run at the defence before dishing it off. The attack is way too static and this is because too little physical toughness in the midfield in particular. Sorry, but I'm frustrated and refuse to be a happy-clapper just because some of you want to mindlessly hero-worship.
and us poor mindless hero-worshiping fools who know nothing about football are lucky to have you, an expert on football and all things regarding football, on here to inform us all where we are wrong and to impart your extensive knowledge upon us. I for one thank you!
being the oracle you are could you please explain, to the mindless hero-worshiping happy-clapping (strange you use that term!) fool that I am, what is it about j-rod, lalla and luke (I only used those three names because I hero-worship them) that is static? or how I never ever see any of them `run at the defence`. I am sure I saw all three doing that today. could you also explain why spider, cork and davis are lacking in `physical toughness`? I would also love to know why the team lack `mental toughness` I`m sure I saw them battling all game against a defence that shut up shop after they scored their second `lucky` goal.
are there anymore wise words of wisdom that you have learned from the `tv commentator` that you could share with the group?

for your information there are many posters on this site that love saints and whilst they want to win every game they realise that the team will on occasion lose, they like to comment on the `positives` of the team and will `debate` the negatives with anyone. what the `happy-clappers`, as you called them (again strange for a new poster to use that phrase), don't like is when people only ever post negatively after we lose and never post a thing should we win or draw. for a new poster on here you have started with a very poor attitude, calling others mindless hero worshipers who know nothing about football, isn't trying to debate anything, is it? it just shows you as someone who has a superiority complex who thinks that their opinion is always right and if we don't agree with you, well you've already said it. if you don't like what others have posted you don't have to read it, I for wouldn't suggest that you don't come on here and post what you want though. football is all about opinions, I`m not always right and nor are you, the difference is that I wouldn't start calling you a mindless fool etc, just because I think your wrong. I suggest you go and read the site rules before you post again.
Look up above. It wasn't me that started flinging the mud, pal. And, as I said, I'm a new commenter, not a new reader of the comments. I wouldn't say a word that is critical of Shaw, as he is bright, talented, and committed. Rodriguez and Lambert are fine in my books, and I think both are very competitive (Lambert is getting criticized as washed-up because he keeps dropping into midfield looking for service - same criticism given to Rooney with his midfield also wanting in skill, funny enough). I think Chambers is another great talent and love watching him play, but, I believe that Clyne is the more polished player at the moment. Good midfields make good football teams. Guys like Kevin Nolan, heck even Noble (not a big guy) always neutralize the boys in our midfield. I say that Lallana is over-rated because people are so mesmerized by his natural skill that they overlook his shortcomings. I say that is because of hero-worship. He should never have been made captain because he hadn't proven himself and, in my mind, and I am not alone, he still hasn't proven himself. Oh, yeah, Lovren is a great talent and he makes Fonte a much more dependable player. But, either the midfield gets tougher and puts more urgency and commitment into its attack, they will stay on the form that has got them 17 points from the last 16 matches.
firstly I`m not your `pal` and no one has thrown any `mud` at you or anyone else as far as I can see!
secondly you moan that people cant see lalla`s short comings because of his natural skill, would then every commentator and pundit who has tipped him to be on the plane to brazil also not be able to see his short comings? heck even roy likes him is he `mesmerized` by his natural talent? if everyone else is wrong and your the one who right what does that tell you? perhaps you should put you CV into the FA when roy goes.
you say that you wont say a critical word against luke, surely that's hero worship no? I said a few games ago that luke made a mistake that led to a goal against us and no one even mentioned it is that because luke is hero-worshipped by the very people who moan that others do it to the likes of lalla? if any player makes a mistake it should be brought up, however players like guly, hoover and fox come in for awful abuse, is that ok by you? SRL has had a few bad games, but that's ok because all players do, and yes is worshiped by the fans why shouldn't he be? look at what he`s done for/with us. dani however wasn't even allowed to have one bad game by some fans, why? well mainly because he cost so much and would have played instead of SRL. lalla has done a good job as captain so I don't know what he has to do to prove himself to you, personally I wouldn't have made him captain but he is and is doing well. again the midfield has been rated as one of the best in the league, spider is at or near the top in most stats as is cork, whos done a fine job covering for the injured Big Vic. our drop in form has been whilst he`s been out, as much as cork is a great player I would prefer to see Big Vic play because he offers more cover for the defence and let spider get further forward, we have missed his goals since he`s played the defensive role.
as I said no one has `flung any mud` at you until you started, that is of course unless your not a new poster and have just changed log on names. not that I would ever accuse you of doing that!
Well, Luke Shaw is committed. Lallana, not so much. That's why I'm critical of Lallana. Now, go dry your tears.
again with the abuse for no reason. you cant claim others do it whilst doing it yourself!
anyway, lalla not committed really? you want to actually watch him play!
your making yourself look even more foolish with every post!
[quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arfer phesache[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: Lallana is a big girl's blouse. He hasn't got the mental or physical toughness to play in this league. When the men show up, he turns tail. Yea, he's fancy. What does he achieve? and when was the last time you saw him complete a pass in the air to a teammate? if the kid knew how to play the game, he would have won a penalty in the last ten minutes, but he's too much of a girl to take any contact, so he hits a lame shot wide and then, as usual, hits the turf. Poch needs to play men like Ward-Prowse and Wanyama, even if they are not as polished as others, when they play tough teams.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, different name, same old rubbish.[/p][/quote]Actually, I'm a new commenter. I'm just sick of mindless hero-worship from fans who don't know football and don't welcome critical analysis of their heroes. Even the commentator on TV pointed out the same thing about the lack of mental toughness in the side. This team is not getting better. As noted by someone else above, Cork and Schneiderlin are killing the attack in the middle by slowing everything down and playing sideways. Someone else noted that Saints never run at the defence before dishing it off. The attack is way too static and this is because too little physical toughness in the midfield in particular. Sorry, but I'm frustrated and refuse to be a happy-clapper just because some of you want to mindlessly hero-worship.[/p][/quote]and us poor mindless hero-worshiping fools who know nothing about football are lucky to have you, an expert on football and all things regarding football, on here to inform us all where we are wrong and to impart your extensive knowledge upon us. I for one thank you! being the oracle you are could you please explain, to the mindless hero-worshiping happy-clapping (strange you use that term!) fool that I am, what is it about j-rod, lalla and luke (I only used those three names because I hero-worship them) that is static? or how I never ever see any of them `run at the defence`. I am sure I saw all three doing that today. could you also explain why spider, cork and davis are lacking in `physical toughness`? I would also love to know why the team lack `mental toughness` I`m sure I saw them battling all game against a defence that shut up shop after they scored their second `lucky` goal. are there anymore wise words of wisdom that you have learned from the `tv commentator` that you could share with the group? for your information there are many posters on this site that love saints and whilst they want to win every game they realise that the team will on occasion lose, they like to comment on the `positives` of the team and will `debate` the negatives with anyone. what the `happy-clappers`, as you called them (again strange for a new poster to use that phrase), don't like is when people only ever post negatively after we lose and never post a thing should we win or draw. for a new poster on here you have started with a very poor attitude, calling others mindless hero worshipers who know nothing about football, isn't trying to debate anything, is it? it just shows you as someone who has a superiority complex who thinks that their opinion is always right and if we don't agree with you, well you've already said it. if you don't like what others have posted you don't have to read it, I for wouldn't suggest that you don't come on here and post what you want though. football is all about opinions, I`m not always right and nor are you, the difference is that I wouldn't start calling you a mindless fool etc, just because I think your wrong. I suggest you go and read the site rules before you post again.[/p][/quote]Look up above. It wasn't me that started flinging the mud, pal. And, as I said, I'm a new commenter, not a new reader of the comments. I wouldn't say a word that is critical of Shaw, as he is bright, talented, and committed. Rodriguez and Lambert are fine in my books, and I think both are very competitive (Lambert is getting criticized as washed-up because he keeps dropping into midfield looking for service - same criticism given to Rooney with his midfield also wanting in skill, funny enough). I think Chambers is another great talent and love watching him play, but, I believe that Clyne is the more polished player at the moment. Good midfields make good football teams. Guys like Kevin Nolan, heck even Noble (not a big guy) always neutralize the boys in our midfield. I say that Lallana is over-rated because people are so mesmerized by his natural skill that they overlook his shortcomings. I say that is because of hero-worship. He should never have been made captain because he hadn't proven himself and, in my mind, and I am not alone, he still hasn't proven himself. Oh, yeah, Lovren is a great talent and he makes Fonte a much more dependable player. But, either the midfield gets tougher and puts more urgency and commitment into its attack, they will stay on the form that has got them 17 points from the last 16 matches.[/p][/quote]firstly I`m not your `pal` and no one has thrown any `mud` at you or anyone else as far as I can see! secondly you moan that people cant see lalla`s short comings because of his natural skill, would then every commentator and pundit who has tipped him to be on the plane to brazil also not be able to see his short comings? heck even roy likes him is he `mesmerized` by his natural talent? if everyone else is wrong and your the one who right what does that tell you? perhaps you should put you CV into the FA when roy goes. you say that you wont say a critical word against luke, surely that's hero worship no? I said a few games ago that luke made a mistake that led to a goal against us and no one even mentioned it is that because luke is hero-worshipped by the very people who moan that others do it to the likes of lalla? if any player makes a mistake it should be brought up, however players like guly, hoover and fox come in for awful abuse, is that ok by you? SRL has had a few bad games, but that's ok because all players do, and yes is worshiped by the fans why shouldn't he be? look at what he`s done for/with us. dani however wasn't even allowed to have one bad game by some fans, why? well mainly because he cost so much and would have played instead of SRL. lalla has done a good job as captain so I don't know what he has to do to prove himself to you, personally I wouldn't have made him captain but he is and is doing well. again the midfield has been rated as one of the best in the league, spider is at or near the top in most stats as is cork, whos done a fine job covering for the injured Big Vic. our drop in form has been whilst he`s been out, as much as cork is a great player I would prefer to see Big Vic play because he offers more cover for the defence and let spider get further forward, we have missed his goals since he`s played the defensive role. as I said no one has `flung any mud` at you until you started, that is of course unless your not a new poster and have just changed log on names. not that I would ever accuse you of doing that![/p][/quote]Well, Luke Shaw is committed. Lallana, not so much. That's why I'm critical of Lallana. Now, go dry your tears.[/p][/quote]again with the abuse for no reason. you cant claim others do it whilst doing it yourself! anyway, lalla not committed really? you want to actually watch him play! your making yourself look even more foolish with every post! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 6

8:47pm Sat 22 Feb 14

st1halo says...

I realise I don't know anything about football and all but to suggest that our midfield is weak is a bit silly really. It's not bourne out by the statistics you see. Infact Jack and Morgan topped the charts last season for winning tackles, passes etc and will be thereabouts this. I would concede we don't score enough goals from midfield but on balance we don't score enough from everywhere on the pitch.
As for Adam, this is the stongest and most physical I have seen him, his role is to create and create he does. I have said on here many times that Jay needs to improve on his finishing and I stand by it. We played some great football today but still lack that conversion rate we all crave. Solve that problem and we will really be a force.

STID
I realise I don't know anything about football and all but to suggest that our midfield is weak is a bit silly really. It's not bourne out by the statistics you see. Infact Jack and Morgan topped the charts last season for winning tackles, passes etc and will be thereabouts this. I would concede we don't score enough goals from midfield but on balance we don't score enough from everywhere on the pitch. As for Adam, this is the stongest and most physical I have seen him, his role is to create and create he does. I have said on here many times that Jay needs to improve on his finishing and I stand by it. We played some great football today but still lack that conversion rate we all crave. Solve that problem and we will really be a force. STID st1halo
  • Score: 5

8:56pm Sat 22 Feb 14

David Crook says...

Redflag14 wrote:
David Crook wrote:
What a thrashing,and by West Ham,two bad results in a row now,someone needs to stop the rot,otherwise we will start to stumble down the league,I keep wondering if Pochettino has still got his heart in the game for Saints,or perhaps this is the furthest he can take us.What do you all think?
I think you are a sad apology for a Southampton fan, you probably wouldn't have posted had they won.
Not true,you must learne in life,when you do well you get praise,when you don,t you get criticized,a fact of life my friend.All I am trying to say is that the team should have done better.If the team do well I shall praise them,when they don't I shall criticize .You just can't go on praising just for the sake of it.I just want Saints to do well.
[quote][p][bold]Redflag14[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David Crook[/bold] wrote: What a thrashing,and by West Ham,two bad results in a row now,someone needs to stop the rot,otherwise we will start to stumble down the league,I keep wondering if Pochettino has still got his heart in the game for Saints,or perhaps this is the furthest he can take us.What do you all think?[/p][/quote]I think you are a sad apology for a Southampton fan, you probably wouldn't have posted had they won.[/p][/quote]Not true,you must learne in life,when you do well you get praise,when you don,t you get criticized,a fact of life my friend.All I am trying to say is that the team should have done better.If the team do well I shall praise them,when they don't I shall criticize .You just can't go on praising just for the sake of it.I just want Saints to do well. David Crook
  • Score: 0

9:07pm Sat 22 Feb 14

David Crook says...

David Crook wrote:
Redflag14 wrote:
David Crook wrote:
What a thrashing,and by West Ham,two bad results in a row now,someone needs to stop the rot,otherwise we will start to stumble down the league,I keep wondering if Pochettino has still got his heart in the game for Saints,or perhaps this is the furthest he can take us.What do you all think?
I think you are a sad apology for a Southampton fan, you probably wouldn't have posted had they won.
Not true,you must learne in life,when you do well you get praise,when you don,t you get criticized,a fact of life my friend.All I am trying to say is that the team should have done better.If the team do well I shall praise them,when they don't I shall criticize .You just can't go on praising just for the sake of it.I just want Saints to do well.
Sorry I know Learn
[quote][p][bold]David Crook[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Redflag14[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David Crook[/bold] wrote: What a thrashing,and by West Ham,two bad results in a row now,someone needs to stop the rot,otherwise we will start to stumble down the league,I keep wondering if Pochettino has still got his heart in the game for Saints,or perhaps this is the furthest he can take us.What do you all think?[/p][/quote]I think you are a sad apology for a Southampton fan, you probably wouldn't have posted had they won.[/p][/quote]Not true,you must learne in life,when you do well you get praise,when you don,t you get criticized,a fact of life my friend.All I am trying to say is that the team should have done better.If the team do well I shall praise them,when they don't I shall criticize .You just can't go on praising just for the sake of it.I just want Saints to do well.[/p][/quote]Sorry I know Learn David Crook
  • Score: -1

9:10pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Redflag14 says...

bluewhiteandred wrote:
Theirs a new kid on the Block GOSPORT Borough the second southern team since 2010 Pompey to reach Wembley sad Jesus perez and Poch will never see Wembley with their attidude torwards the cup unlike nigel Adkins
Yes, indeed, well done Gosport, well done Sholing too. I guess you have been frightened off the News site by the angst going on there, it makes this thread look fairly tame in comparison. Eastleigh won too, not all bad today.
[quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: Theirs a new kid on the Block GOSPORT Borough the second southern team since 2010 Pompey to reach Wembley sad Jesus perez and Poch will never see Wembley with their attidude torwards the cup unlike nigel Adkins[/p][/quote]Yes, indeed, well done Gosport, well done Sholing too. I guess you have been frightened off the News site by the angst going on there, it makes this thread look fairly tame in comparison. Eastleigh won too, not all bad today. Redflag14
  • Score: 3

9:11pm Sat 22 Feb 14

David Crook says...

As I keep saying about Jay,when you are in front of goal,just kick the ball as hard as you can.
As I keep saying about Jay,when you are in front of goal,just kick the ball as hard as you can. David Crook
  • Score: -3

9:11pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Baddesley Bill says...

David Crook wrote:
Redflag14 wrote:
David Crook wrote:
What a thrashing,and by West Ham,two bad results in a row now,someone needs to stop the rot,otherwise we will start to stumble down the league,I keep wondering if Pochettino has still got his heart in the game for Saints,or perhaps this is the furthest he can take us.What do you all think?
I think you are a sad apology for a Southampton fan, you probably wouldn't have posted had they won.
Not true,you must learne in life,when you do well you get praise,when you don,t you get criticized,a fact of life my friend.All I am trying to say is that the team should have done better.If the team do well I shall praise them,when they don't I shall criticize .You just can't go on praising just for the sake of it.I just want Saints to do well.
Sorry mate...it is true imo.
[quote][p][bold]David Crook[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Redflag14[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David Crook[/bold] wrote: What a thrashing,and by West Ham,two bad results in a row now,someone needs to stop the rot,otherwise we will start to stumble down the league,I keep wondering if Pochettino has still got his heart in the game for Saints,or perhaps this is the furthest he can take us.What do you all think?[/p][/quote]I think you are a sad apology for a Southampton fan, you probably wouldn't have posted had they won.[/p][/quote]Not true,you must learne in life,when you do well you get praise,when you don,t you get criticized,a fact of life my friend.All I am trying to say is that the team should have done better.If the team do well I shall praise them,when they don't I shall criticize .You just can't go on praising just for the sake of it.I just want Saints to do well.[/p][/quote]Sorry mate...it is true imo. Baddesley Bill
  • Score: 3

9:13pm Sat 22 Feb 14

loosehead says...

3-1 better sign that England Rugby player did you see the dive to catch the ball?
3-1 better sign that England Rugby player did you see the dive to catch the ball? loosehead
  • Score: 0

9:20pm Sat 22 Feb 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
David Crook wrote:
Redflag14 wrote:
David Crook wrote:
What a thrashing,and by West Ham,two bad results in a row now,someone needs to stop the rot,otherwise we will start to stumble down the league,I keep wondering if Pochettino has still got his heart in the game for Saints,or perhaps this is the furthest he can take us.What do you all think?
I think you are a sad apology for a Southampton fan, you probably wouldn't have posted had they won.
Not true,you must learne in life,when you do well you get praise,when you don,t you get criticized,a fact of life my friend.All I am trying to say is that the team should have done better.If the team do well I shall praise them,when they don't I shall criticize .You just can't go on praising just for the sake of it.I just want Saints to do well.
Sorry mate...it is true imo.
bill have you ever seen any praise from crook?
I would love to see him post anything slightly positive or even when we win because he seems to disappear after we win.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David Crook[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Redflag14[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David Crook[/bold] wrote: What a thrashing,and by West Ham,two bad results in a row now,someone needs to stop the rot,otherwise we will start to stumble down the league,I keep wondering if Pochettino has still got his heart in the game for Saints,or perhaps this is the furthest he can take us.What do you all think?[/p][/quote]I think you are a sad apology for a Southampton fan, you probably wouldn't have posted had they won.[/p][/quote]Not true,you must learne in life,when you do well you get praise,when you don,t you get criticized,a fact of life my friend.All I am trying to say is that the team should have done better.If the team do well I shall praise them,when they don't I shall criticize .You just can't go on praising just for the sake of it.I just want Saints to do well.[/p][/quote]Sorry mate...it is true imo.[/p][/quote]bill have you ever seen any praise from crook? I would love to see him post anything slightly positive or even when we win because he seems to disappear after we win. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 1

11:03pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Baddesley Bill says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
David Crook wrote:
Redflag14 wrote:
David Crook wrote:
What a thrashing,and by West Ham,two bad results in a row now,someone needs to stop the rot,otherwise we will start to stumble down the league,I keep wondering if Pochettino has still got his heart in the game for Saints,or perhaps this is the furthest he can take us.What do you all think?
I think you are a sad apology for a Southampton fan, you probably wouldn't have posted had they won.
Not true,you must learne in life,when you do well you get praise,when you don,t you get criticized,a fact of life my friend.All I am trying to say is that the team should have done better.If the team do well I shall praise them,when they don't I shall criticize .You just can't go on praising just for the sake of it.I just want Saints to do well.
Sorry mate...it is true imo.
bill have you ever seen any praise from crook?
I would love to see him post anything slightly positive or even when we win because he seems to disappear after we win.
Nope. This one is definitely one of our "half empty" brigade without a shadow of doubt.

Whatever makes you happy...I guess.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David Crook[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Redflag14[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David Crook[/bold] wrote: What a thrashing,and by West Ham,two bad results in a row now,someone needs to stop the rot,otherwise we will start to stumble down the league,I keep wondering if Pochettino has still got his heart in the game for Saints,or perhaps this is the furthest he can take us.What do you all think?[/p][/quote]I think you are a sad apology for a Southampton fan, you probably wouldn't have posted had they won.[/p][/quote]Not true,you must learne in life,when you do well you get praise,when you don,t you get criticized,a fact of life my friend.All I am trying to say is that the team should have done better.If the team do well I shall praise them,when they don't I shall criticize .You just can't go on praising just for the sake of it.I just want Saints to do well.[/p][/quote]Sorry mate...it is true imo.[/p][/quote]bill have you ever seen any praise from crook? I would love to see him post anything slightly positive or even when we win because he seems to disappear after we win.[/p][/quote]Nope. This one is definitely one of our "half empty" brigade without a shadow of doubt. Whatever makes you happy...I guess. Baddesley Bill
  • Score: 2

6:23am Sun 23 Feb 14

Blackknight says...

Clearly Allardyce is a disciple of Charles Hughes long-ball philosophy
(hoof it) into the right areas, and be clinical in front of goal. He got his tactics spot on.

Whereas Saints enjoyed the majority of the possession and carved out 25 opportunities they only managed to get five on target. What use is a lot of pleasing on the eye possession football if there is no end result?

Lets hope after two defeats that a loosing mind set has not encapsulated the team.

That said I thought Gaston Ramirez was a ray of sunshine on a dark day for the Saints.
Clearly Allardyce is a disciple of Charles Hughes long-ball philosophy (hoof it) into the right areas, and be clinical in front of goal. He got his tactics spot on. Whereas Saints enjoyed the majority of the possession and carved out 25 opportunities they only managed to get five on target. What use is a lot of pleasing on the eye possession football if there is no end result? Lets hope after two defeats that a loosing mind set has not encapsulated the team. That said I thought Gaston Ramirez was a ray of sunshine on a dark day for the Saints. Blackknight
  • Score: 3

1:20pm Sun 23 Feb 14

Freddie Flowerpot says...

straightforward win again for the Hammers. It's all very well having a large percentage of possession but if you do little with it, it's meaningless. Norwich gave us far more problems than Saints.
straightforward win again for the Hammers. It's all very well having a large percentage of possession but if you do little with it, it's meaningless. Norwich gave us far more problems than Saints. Freddie Flowerpot
  • Score: 1

6:56am Mon 24 Feb 14

Norwegian Saint says...

Freddie Flowerpot wrote:
straightforward win again for the Hammers. It's all very well having a large percentage of possession but if you do little with it, it's meaningless. Norwich gave us far more problems than Saints.
It's all very well taking that percentage and being safe in 9th.
I would rather watch Saints any day than the boring football Wet Spam play, seriously, that type of hoofball is soo disrespectful to the old greats like Moore.
[quote][p][bold]Freddie Flowerpot[/bold] wrote: straightforward win again for the Hammers. It's all very well having a large percentage of possession but if you do little with it, it's meaningless. Norwich gave us far more problems than Saints.[/p][/quote]It's all very well taking that percentage and being safe in 9th. I would rather watch Saints any day than the boring football Wet Spam play, seriously, that type of hoofball is soo disrespectful to the old greats like Moore. Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 1

1:43pm Tue 25 Feb 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

David Crook wrote:
As I keep saying about Jay,when you are in front of goal,just kick the ball as hard as you can.
Now the next step, JRod, when in front of the goal, kick the ball between the posts, but below the bar, make the net ripple and voila! a goal. Sorry DC but your advice is badly flawed, no point kicking it as hard as you can if it ends up in Row ZZ..
[quote][p][bold]David Crook[/bold] wrote: As I keep saying about Jay,when you are in front of goal,just kick the ball as hard as you can.[/p][/quote]Now the next step, JRod, when in front of the goal, kick the ball between the posts, but below the bar, make the net ripple and voila! a goal. Sorry DC but your advice is badly flawed, no point kicking it as hard as you can if it ends up in Row ZZ.. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

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