COMMENT: Krueger backs up transfer claims

Ralph Krueger

Ralph Krueger

First published in Sport Basingstoke Gazette: Photograph of the Author by , Chief Sports Writer

“That’s our goal, by September 1st, that you can look me in the eyes and say ‘When I look at everything, and I take all the emotions out, this is actually a stronger squad, a deeper squad than we had last year.’”

Those were the words of Saints chairman Ralph Krueger as he faced up to widespread criticism of the club’s summer transfer policy.

At that stage all the headlines were about players leaving, rather than arriving.

Looking back now you almost forget some elements of the most turbulent transfer window in the club’s history.

For instance, it’s almost been forgotten now that Saints lost their highly successful manager in the closed season, such was the tidal wave of further hurdles they have had to overcome.

Then it was star striker Rickie Lambert, captain Adam Lallana, young jewel in the crown Luke Shaw and soon to be England squad member Calum Chambers heading out.

Morgan Schneiderlin also looked as though he might join them, while the future of Jay Rodriguez seemed to be in doubt too.

For a while it seemed as if St Mary’s was sinking.

But then came the rejuvenation.

No team can ever stand still and, as wonderful as the past five years at Saints have been, things had to change at some point.

Let us not forget the foundations of the side that finished eighth last season were laid many years ago by Alan Pardew.

It was he who signed many of the players that endured, and he who engrained a winning mentality into the squad that they have kept to this day.

Nigel Adkins and then Mauricio Pochettino of course added their own twists as time went on, but a good many of the signings since Pardew’s day have failed to usurp those he brought in.

When you hear of Manchester United and Alex Ferguson talk of having to rebuild a team, even sometimes at their seemingly most successful, it is because time doesn’t stand still.

It was inevitable that Saints were going to face a time where they had rebuild.

Maybe they might have hoped it would be a little more gradual than it has proven to be, but nonetheless it was going to happen.

To be blunt, the squad they had needed serious investment to have a chance of retaining eighth place this season, let alone progressing, a point many seem to have overlooked.

The player sales were, without doubt, painful.

The tone was set with Rickie Lambert, and after that it was always going to be this way.

At least, when the crunch came, Saints proved they were no pushovers.

It would have been easy to have just allowed Schneiderlin to have followed out the door but enough was enough.

Though some would have argued that you should always look at the bigger picture, Saints were adamant all summer that each player sale on its own merits was the correct move for the club.

Those arguments are justified, though there is an admittance around St Mary’s that they could have handled it a little better by being a little more open at the time, but those are lessons they have quickly learned.

With plenty of recruitment now having taken place, and deadline day finally having passed, it is time to see what we are left with.

It is a new Saints, a reborn Saints.

Since the turn of the year so much baggage has been swept away.

An executive chairman has gone and a new era heralded there, a new manager who has done nothing other than impress is now in place, and now a new team.

So was Krueger proved correct after all?

Well there are two main issues to address from his statement. One is whether Saints have a stronger squad, the other is whether it is deeper.

It is easiest to analyse the depth, and in that respect there is little doubt Krueger is correct.

As well as the star names listed, Saints have also dispensed with Lee Barnard, Guly do Prado, Jonathan Forte, Billy Sharp, as well as loaning out Jos Hooiveld, but since they were never figuring anyway that is of little consequence.

The only real extra surprise on deadline day was Gaston Ramirez moving to Hull, just days after Koeman had ruled out a move away for the £12m man and there had been much talk about how this might finally be his breakthrough year.

In total Saints have effectively raised more around £90m by selling five of their best players.

In turn they have reinvested around £60m in signing eight new faces, Saphir Taider being excluded from these lists entirely after his bizarre 26 day stop at St Mary’s.

The maths is pretty simple then. There is more meaningful depth to the Saints squad because they have only brought in players that are going to add genuine competition at first team level.

And, in terms of reinvesting the money they brought in, the numbers are pretty close too.

Saints have spent about £60m, plus a couple of no doubt reasonable loan fees.

Krueger always said it would be a mixture of wages and fees, and so it is likely that Saints have spent or at least committed the majority of what they have received, especially when you consider they lost a quarter of the money for Lallana to Bournemouth too, which means their real cash intake was nearer £85m.

The far more subjective area is whether they have a stronger squad.

By stronger you are effectively meaning better, which therefore has to lead on to being better on the field.

It is a hard judgement to make, mainly because we cannot possibly call it after just a few games, and with a couple of the new faces having only just arrived at the club.

It is perhaps more useful to look at it area by area.

There can be no question that Saints are better off when it comes to goalkeepers.

Fraser Forster is a great acquisition, and is without question an improvement, so all good there.

At the back Saints look pretty good too.

At left back they lost Shaw, but in Ryan Bertrand, even if it is initially on loan, they have covered the teenager’s departure well.

With all due respect, a club like Saints do not have to have the best left back in the world, but they do need a competent and experienced player who will perform consistently well at the top level. They have got themselves exactly that.

In the other full back position it was always a battle between Nathaniel Clyne and Calum Chambers anyway. It’s not a battle any longer, and Toby Alderweireld adds brilliant cover.

The centre of defence has seen the departure of one big name in Dejan Lovren, but the arrival of two potential stars.

That Saints got £20m for Lovren was a good bit of business when taken in isolation. He had only enjoyed one decent season in the Premier League, and Saints fans will recall he was not at his best either for the final third of the campaign.

That centre half unit of Jose Fonte, Florin Gardos, Alderweireld and Maya Yoshida looks, on paper at least as we are yet to see two of them in action, very solid.

In the defensive midfield areas there is no change.

Ronald Koeman showed his leadership qualities by somehow keeping Schneiderlin at the club and getting him to focus again on playing for Saints.

Then you have Victory Wanyama, Jack Cork, Steven Davis, Harrison Reed and James Ward-Prowse as potential options.

It is probably the attacking areas which took the biggest hit.

With Rodriguez inured, and Lambert and Lallana departing, it left some big boots to fill.

That’s where a total combined investment of around £44m on Graziano Pelle, Dusan Tadic, Shane Long and Sadio Mane has come in.

The big worry at Saints has been where the goals are coming from, but Koeman has equipped his squad with a host of new signings to try and deliver some serious firepower.

In effect, they lost two players in those roles, albeit their star turns, and have brought in four new faces, with Rodriguez still to come back in too.

Again, the proof will be in the goalscoring charts at the end of the season, and whether Lambert and Lallana have been missed or not in that respect.

But it is again evidence that Saints might actually have done pretty well in a tricky situation.

What’s for sure is that it is not the apocalyptic summer that some were predicting when the sales were at their height.

This is a very different squad, under a different manager, and playing a slightly different way.

Things are new and fresh and, Krueger would no doubt say, exciting.

He might well feel ready as he wakes up this morning to look people in the eye and tell them he has delivered on his promise.

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9:51am Tue 2 Sep 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

Whatever the outcome at the end of the season, I believe you have given it a bloody good go at any rate.
Whatever the outcome at the end of the season, I believe you have given it a bloody good go at any rate. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 53

9:54am Tue 2 Sep 14

Portswood says...

A well-written and clear analysis, Adam. Thank you. And I love the sound of this midfield beast, VICTORY Wanyama. A promising sign for the season ahead... :)
A well-written and clear analysis, Adam. Thank you. And I love the sound of this midfield beast, VICTORY Wanyama. A promising sign for the season ahead... :) Portswood
  • Score: 36

9:56am Tue 2 Sep 14

Mister E says...

Good article!
Of course, the new additions this summer, need time to prove themselves, and only then can we make definitive judgements on them and where we are as a club.
As I said in a thread way back when unrest was at it's height, we needed to give the board and RK a chance and indeed time. The Chairman has had a very steep learning curve. So far, so good and I've been impressed - didn't get where he is today without learning quickly!
As for RK, well, really, REALLY impressed with him. We might yet be pleasantly surprised with this season, and without trying to leap too far ahead, I am really excited as to where we'll be this time next year!
Good article! Of course, the new additions this summer, need time to prove themselves, and only then can we make definitive judgements on them and where we are as a club. As I said in a thread way back when unrest was at it's height, we needed to give the board and RK a chance and indeed time. The Chairman has had a very steep learning curve. So far, so good and I've been impressed - didn't get where he is today without learning quickly! As for RK, well, really, REALLY impressed with him. We might yet be pleasantly surprised with this season, and without trying to leap too far ahead, I am really excited as to where we'll be this time next year! Mister E
  • Score: 47

10:02am Tue 2 Sep 14

This is Southampton and we are the Saints says...

Great Article we are now looking very strong and think we will shake this league to its foundations and turn a few heads to the point of wiplash!!!
I for one will reval in are smugness as one by one the lame stream media papers and pundits come to realise we have not only survived the so called mass exodus but improved immensely and ready to shake there big club Monopoly by its short and curlys!
Never forget this is Southampton and we are the saints!!!!!!!!!
BRING IT!
Great Article we are now looking very strong and think we will shake this league to its foundations and turn a few heads to the point of wiplash!!! I for one will reval in are smugness as one by one the lame stream media papers and pundits come to realise we have not only survived the so called mass exodus but improved immensely and ready to shake there big club Monopoly by its short and curlys! Never forget this is Southampton and we are the saints!!!!!!!!! BRING IT! This is Southampton and we are the Saints
  • Score: 33

10:03am Tue 2 Sep 14

SaintAsh1964 says...

There is no doubt that in my mind we are stronger, leaner and looking better than what we did last year.
There are some posters on here that need to take a massive slice of humble pie and admit that they did not back the club when the club needed their backing the most.
Disgraceful comments regarding Katharina Liebherr only wanting to asset strip the club and take the money gained in sales out, and that she had no interest in the club.
Les Reed & Ralph Krueger were derided on here and in the sports media by so called experts, yet seem to have delivered on promises.
Sure we lost some good players, and at the time a good Manager, but lets be honest, none of them stayed and backed the club so the club got top top $ for them and against all wishes, sold these players on.
And if there is anyone out there does not agree that the new arrivals are as good as, or potentially better than the ones departed, then I'm a Dutch man! and talking of that, after getting Jack Cork to agree a new contract, Ronald Koeman should be offered a 2 year extension, because I really do think that we have a brilliant Manager on our hands and bigger clubs will come sniffing around if all goes to plan, I mean Toby Alderweireld is a top world class defender, yet he's here with us because of big Ron, what other manager in the EPL has the playing experience that he has? he's been there,done it,seen it, and that means he knows how all of the systems work on both sides of the fence, in my opinion he's our best signing of the season.
COYS
There is no doubt that in my mind we are stronger, leaner and looking better than what we did last year. There are some posters on here that need to take a massive slice of humble pie and admit that they did not back the club when the club needed their backing the most. Disgraceful comments regarding Katharina Liebherr only wanting to asset strip the club and take the money gained in sales out, and that she had no interest in the club. Les Reed & Ralph Krueger were derided on here and in the sports media by so called experts, yet seem to have delivered on promises. Sure we lost some good players, and at the time a good Manager, but lets be honest, none of them stayed and backed the club so the club got top top $ for them and against all wishes, sold these players on. And if there is anyone out there does not agree that the new arrivals are as good as, or potentially better than the ones departed, then I'm a Dutch man! and talking of that, after getting Jack Cork to agree a new contract, Ronald Koeman should be offered a 2 year extension, because I really do think that we have a brilliant Manager on our hands and bigger clubs will come sniffing around if all goes to plan, I mean Toby Alderweireld is a top world class defender, yet he's here with us because of big Ron, what other manager in the EPL has the playing experience that he has? he's been there,done it,seen it, and that means he knows how all of the systems work on both sides of the fence, in my opinion he's our best signing of the season. COYS SaintAsh1964
  • Score: 86

10:04am Tue 2 Sep 14

ShanoBrizzy says...

Depth wise and on paper, this has to be up there with one of the best Saints squads I've seen in 30 years.. It's a serious squad of players..maybe even a top 6 contender.. Well done Ralph.. your deserve a fair bit of credit..
Depth wise and on paper, this has to be up there with one of the best Saints squads I've seen in 30 years.. It's a serious squad of players..maybe even a top 6 contender.. Well done Ralph.. your deserve a fair bit of credit.. ShanoBrizzy
  • Score: 40

10:13am Tue 2 Sep 14

Chipmonk1 says...

I can just see king Ralph sitting eating his breakfast with a smyg self satisfied grin and sticking a metaphorical finger up to the naysayers
I can just see king Ralph sitting eating his breakfast with a smyg self satisfied grin and sticking a metaphorical finger up to the naysayers Chipmonk1
  • Score: 17

10:14am Tue 2 Sep 14

StevenAus says...

I'm excited and optimistic about this season. Let's just hope they can all gel quickly and that all the others want to be here and not cause trouble. Also time for the doom mangers etc to lay off the board who have a good job albeit with a couple of PR disasters in there but recovered well. Schneiderlin will probably still go I the summer but stranger things have happened.
I'm excited and optimistic about this season. Let's just hope they can all gel quickly and that all the others want to be here and not cause trouble. Also time for the doom mangers etc to lay off the board who have a good job albeit with a couple of PR disasters in there but recovered well. Schneiderlin will probably still go I the summer but stranger things have happened. StevenAus
  • Score: 10

10:14am Tue 2 Sep 14

Chipmonk1 says...

*smug. Stupid phone
*smug. Stupid phone Chipmonk1
  • Score: 0

10:20am Tue 2 Sep 14

FleetSaint says...

For the first time ever I can safely say come Sep 1st I am a happy man.

Look at who came in:

Ryan Bertrand - Ready and replacing a one season startlet. Already better defensively if not as marauding forward as Shaw. - SOLID

Gardos - Untried but compared to Hooiveld must be an improvement

Alderweireld - Champions League final defender - VERY STRONG

Dusan - From what I have seen he is Lallana and some. Skillfull, attacking and scaring defenses

Mane - Seen this chap before and was impressed. More pace, knows where the goal is.

Pelle - Had my concerns but since Millwall he has looked much better and now has found the way to goal. Lambert is 32 and is coming to the end. Maybe he would not have been first choice every match now. The signs of improvement as he settles in bodes well.

Long - Interesting. Can't fault his commitment but probably not a world blazer but runs, is willing and will come good.

Forster - 100% improvment. Solid and better than Boruc.

Add to the fact we have J-Rod to come back, kept Cork and Schneiderlin and we are very strong.

GK - Forster
LB - Bertrand
CB - Alderwiereld
CB -Fonte
RB - Clyne
LM - Tadic
CM - Cork/Wanyama
CM - Davis
AM - Ward-Prowse/Long
RM - Mane
CF - Pelle

Bench
GK - Boruc (Didn't go so back in)
DF - Gardos
DF - Maya
MF - Cork
AM - Mayuka
FW - Long
Young player - Reed/Isgrove etc

We have a bench to make a change and it allows changes in system. So Ralph indeed Sep 1st I can look you in the eye and say well done. SIGNING OF THE SUMMER? - Ronald Koeman. WE MARCH ON.
For the first time ever I can safely say come Sep 1st I am a happy man. Look at who came in: Ryan Bertrand - Ready and replacing a one season startlet. Already better defensively if not as marauding forward as Shaw. - SOLID Gardos - Untried but compared to Hooiveld must be an improvement Alderweireld - Champions League final defender - VERY STRONG Dusan - From what I have seen he is Lallana and some. Skillfull, attacking and scaring defenses Mane - Seen this chap before and was impressed. More pace, knows where the goal is. Pelle - Had my concerns but since Millwall he has looked much better and now has found the way to goal. Lambert is 32 and is coming to the end. Maybe he would not have been first choice every match now. The signs of improvement as he settles in bodes well. Long - Interesting. Can't fault his commitment but probably not a world blazer but runs, is willing and will come good. Forster - 100% improvment. Solid and better than Boruc. Add to the fact we have J-Rod to come back, kept Cork and Schneiderlin and we are very strong. GK - Forster LB - Bertrand CB - Alderwiereld CB -Fonte RB - Clyne LM - Tadic CM - Cork/Wanyama CM - Davis AM - Ward-Prowse/Long RM - Mane CF - Pelle Bench GK - Boruc (Didn't go so back in) DF - Gardos DF - Maya MF - Cork AM - Mayuka FW - Long Young player - Reed/Isgrove etc We have a bench to make a change and it allows changes in system. So Ralph indeed Sep 1st I can look you in the eye and say well done. SIGNING OF THE SUMMER? - Ronald Koeman. WE MARCH ON. FleetSaint
  • Score: 18

10:26am Tue 2 Sep 14

Ozmosis says...

StevenAus wrote:
I'm excited and optimistic about this season. Let's just hope they can all gel quickly and that all the others want to be here and not cause trouble. Also time for the doom mangers etc to lay off the board who have a good job albeit with a couple of PR disasters in there but recovered well. Schneiderlin will probably still go I the summer but stranger things have happened.
If the team gel and kick on as they have the potential to do, then I'd not be entirely surprised to see Morgan stay - assuming we can do something to offset the wages that the other teams can offer
[quote][p][bold]StevenAus[/bold] wrote: I'm excited and optimistic about this season. Let's just hope they can all gel quickly and that all the others want to be here and not cause trouble. Also time for the doom mangers etc to lay off the board who have a good job albeit with a couple of PR disasters in there but recovered well. Schneiderlin will probably still go I the summer but stranger things have happened.[/p][/quote]If the team gel and kick on as they have the potential to do, then I'd not be entirely surprised to see Morgan stay - assuming we can do something to offset the wages that the other teams can offer Ozmosis
  • Score: 11

10:27am Tue 2 Sep 14

Graham, North of Watford says...

Yes, very pleased but with just 1 incy-wincy microscopically small negative comment.

One of the best things about the Saints is that have (more or less) been either home grown, English/British teams for the most part with a few others that we grew to love over the seasons.

We now seem to be quite a lot like many of the other Clubs with realtively obscure foreign mercenaries playing for us.

I don't actually think there is an answer apart from seeing the next couple of years as an interim period as the Academy goes from strength to strength.

To add to this I think we should do our very best (Agents and Greed apart) to make it clear to the youngsters that they are expected to give a bit of payback to the Club - maybe 2 full seasons before they move on and then make it crystal clear to other Clubs that we really mean it
Yes, very pleased but with just 1 incy-wincy microscopically small negative comment. One of the best things about the Saints is that have (more or less) been either home grown, English/British teams for the most part with a few others that we grew to love over the seasons. We now seem to be quite a lot like many of the other Clubs with realtively obscure foreign mercenaries playing for us. I don't actually think there is an answer apart from seeing the next couple of years as an interim period as the Academy goes from strength to strength. To add to this I think we should do our very best (Agents and Greed apart) to make it clear to the youngsters that they are expected to give a bit of payback to the Club - maybe 2 full seasons before they move on and then make it crystal clear to other Clubs that we really mean it Graham, North of Watford
  • Score: 13

10:28am Tue 2 Sep 14

sparky130a says...

Only one inaccuracy in the article...

" Saints lost their highly successful manager.."

Who was that then? :-D

Things are looking good for a great season!
Only one inaccuracy in the article... " Saints lost their highly successful manager.." Who was that then? :-D Things are looking good for a great season! sparky130a
  • Score: 14

10:34am Tue 2 Sep 14

Tyke15 says...

SaintAsh1964 wrote:
There is no doubt that in my mind we are stronger, leaner and looking better than what we did last year.
There are some posters on here that need to take a massive slice of humble pie and admit that they did not back the club when the club needed their backing the most.
Disgraceful comments regarding Katharina Liebherr only wanting to asset strip the club and take the money gained in sales out, and that she had no interest in the club.
Les Reed & Ralph Krueger were derided on here and in the sports media by so called experts, yet seem to have delivered on promises.
Sure we lost some good players, and at the time a good Manager, but lets be honest, none of them stayed and backed the club so the club got top top $ for them and against all wishes, sold these players on.
And if there is anyone out there does not agree that the new arrivals are as good as, or potentially better than the ones departed, then I'm a Dutch man! and talking of that, after getting Jack Cork to agree a new contract, Ronald Koeman should be offered a 2 year extension, because I really do think that we have a brilliant Manager on our hands and bigger clubs will come sniffing around if all goes to plan, I mean Toby Alderweireld is a top world class defender, yet he's here with us because of big Ron, what other manager in the EPL has the playing experience that he has? he's been there,done it,seen it, and that means he knows how all of the systems work on both sides of the fence, in my opinion he's our best signing of the season.
COYS
Excellent comment, I agree all the negative comments have been shown to be totally unjustified. Glad to see some apologies last night, well done.
What a future to look forward to and we now have a defender who can shoot and score from corners !!!! (see YouTube link) on Saints Facebook)

Please please fans give the team chance to gel. last season we had players who had been together for 4 years so knew how they played. Getting this team to play together will be a huge task but one RK is up for. He has signed the type of players we love to watch and ones which play his way.................
.....exciting time ahead
[quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote: There is no doubt that in my mind we are stronger, leaner and looking better than what we did last year. There are some posters on here that need to take a massive slice of humble pie and admit that they did not back the club when the club needed their backing the most. Disgraceful comments regarding Katharina Liebherr only wanting to asset strip the club and take the money gained in sales out, and that she had no interest in the club. Les Reed & Ralph Krueger were derided on here and in the sports media by so called experts, yet seem to have delivered on promises. Sure we lost some good players, and at the time a good Manager, but lets be honest, none of them stayed and backed the club so the club got top top $ for them and against all wishes, sold these players on. And if there is anyone out there does not agree that the new arrivals are as good as, or potentially better than the ones departed, then I'm a Dutch man! and talking of that, after getting Jack Cork to agree a new contract, Ronald Koeman should be offered a 2 year extension, because I really do think that we have a brilliant Manager on our hands and bigger clubs will come sniffing around if all goes to plan, I mean Toby Alderweireld is a top world class defender, yet he's here with us because of big Ron, what other manager in the EPL has the playing experience that he has? he's been there,done it,seen it, and that means he knows how all of the systems work on both sides of the fence, in my opinion he's our best signing of the season. COYS[/p][/quote]Excellent comment, I agree all the negative comments have been shown to be totally unjustified. Glad to see some apologies last night, well done. What a future to look forward to and we now have a defender who can shoot and score from corners !!!! (see YouTube link) on Saints Facebook) Please please fans give the team chance to gel. last season we had players who had been together for 4 years so knew how they played. Getting this team to play together will be a huge task but one RK is up for. He has signed the type of players we love to watch and ones which play his way................. .....exciting time ahead Tyke15
  • Score: 13

10:40am Tue 2 Sep 14

nomorerumours says...

ShanoBrizzy wrote:
Depth wise and on paper, this has to be up there with one of the best Saints squads I've seen in 30 years.. It's a serious squad of players..maybe even a top 6 contender.. Well done Ralph.. your deserve a fair bit of credit..
I'd go even further. The best I've seen in 53 years as a Saints fan, including those in the great Terry Paine and Ron Davies era. Top 6 is a banker - can we actually manage Europe this season? I believe we can! If the neggies have become happy clappers than the happy clappers need to raise their game!!!
[quote][p][bold]ShanoBrizzy[/bold] wrote: Depth wise and on paper, this has to be up there with one of the best Saints squads I've seen in 30 years.. It's a serious squad of players..maybe even a top 6 contender.. Well done Ralph.. your deserve a fair bit of credit..[/p][/quote]I'd go even further. The best I've seen in 53 years as a Saints fan, including those in the great Terry Paine and Ron Davies era. Top 6 is a banker - can we actually manage Europe this season? I believe we can! If the neggies have become happy clappers than the happy clappers need to raise their game!!! nomorerumours
  • Score: 9

10:43am Tue 2 Sep 14

HighcliffeSaint44 says...

Well done RK, RK and LR! AND a huge thank you again to Katharina for keeping the faith!
At most betting sites,you can still get 1400/1 for Saints to take the title.
Know it sounds crazy NOW, but might just put a "friendly fiver" out of the wife's housekeeping! You never know!
The Stripes are Back!! We March On!! COYR!!!
Well done RK, RK and LR! AND a huge thank you again to Katharina for keeping the faith! At most betting sites,you can still get 1400/1 for Saints to take the title. Know it sounds crazy NOW, but might just put a "friendly fiver" out of the wife's housekeeping! You never know! The Stripes are Back!! We March On!! COYR!!! HighcliffeSaint44
  • Score: 11

10:56am Tue 2 Sep 14

Saint Tony says...

I am very pleased with the 2 signings yesterday - but I was panicking at 11.20pm!

Bantering with the plastics and talking to fellow saints fans, I have been very much alone in my stance supporting the board and showing any optimism. I feel they were very much forced with the summer sales. It's obvious they didn't want to sell Lallana, Lovren and others, but with their awful unprofessional behavior and the effect that could have had in the dressing room, we had little choice to sell and did a tremendous job getting top dollar.

Fending off strong interest for Schneiderlin and Jay Rod proved the board have the strength to say, 'enough is enough'. Time will tell if they stay on and who could blame them wanting to compete for titles as long as they show the respect, class and professionalism that some of the others lacked. I'm hoping Schneiderlin and the others were only so keen to jump because they were sucked into the media nonsense. Now the picture is much clearer and ambition still very much alive with real quality young players that chose to be here.

So Tadic is arguably as good as Lallana or not far off. Bear in mind, Lallana is also injury prone, so at £15m profit, I know my choice.

Long and Pelle give options to replace Lambert who with all respect, his time is running out anyway. (I hope he wasn't a pawn in the masterplan of decimating our squad. All the best to him, LEGEND.)

Chambers was never as good as Clyne at RB (amazed he hasn't been coveted) and we now have a seasoned international Champions League finalist and La Liga winner to replace him, Alderwiereld.

Shaw is a big loss, but £30m for a young lad that is allegedly unfit and injury prone is amazing. Bertrand looks quality - Champions league winner, titles to his name and fits the ethos as a young pacey talent for a very reasonable fee.

Lovren is a big miss, no doubt. He is a leader as well as a great defender. But with a combination of Alderwiereld and Gardos, we have more depth and solid cover. Probably the only area I'd say we are notably weaker in the 1st team until proven otherwise.

So then we have the additions of Forster and Mane, which to me are simply quality signings adding to the strength and depth. Particularly excited about Mane. All in all, our team is equipped with a lot more pace this season - the one thing we truly lacked last season. We may not be as tight, retain the ball quite so well as under the Pochettino regime, more down to tactic than personnel, but I expect we'll see a lot more open games and goal fests.

We've still got building to do but so far I tip my hat to the board and I for one am a very excited saints fan. I think i will be reaping the benefits of a fair few bets this season! COYR!
I am very pleased with the 2 signings yesterday - but I was panicking at 11.20pm! Bantering with the plastics and talking to fellow saints fans, I have been very much alone in my stance supporting the board and showing any optimism. I feel they were very much forced with the summer sales. It's obvious they didn't want to sell Lallana, Lovren and others, but with their awful unprofessional behavior and the effect that could have had in the dressing room, we had little choice to sell and did a tremendous job getting top dollar. Fending off strong interest for Schneiderlin and Jay Rod proved the board have the strength to say, 'enough is enough'. Time will tell if they stay on and who could blame them wanting to compete for titles as long as they show the respect, class and professionalism that some of the others lacked. I'm hoping Schneiderlin and the others were only so keen to jump because they were sucked into the media nonsense. Now the picture is much clearer and ambition still very much alive with real quality young players that chose to be here. So Tadic is arguably as good as Lallana or not far off. Bear in mind, Lallana is also injury prone, so at £15m profit, I know my choice. Long and Pelle give options to replace Lambert who with all respect, his time is running out anyway. (I hope he wasn't a pawn in the masterplan of decimating our squad. All the best to him, LEGEND.) Chambers was never as good as Clyne at RB (amazed he hasn't been coveted) and we now have a seasoned international Champions League finalist and La Liga winner to replace him, Alderwiereld. Shaw is a big loss, but £30m for a young lad that is allegedly unfit and injury prone is amazing. Bertrand looks quality - Champions league winner, titles to his name and fits the ethos as a young pacey talent for a very reasonable fee. Lovren is a big miss, no doubt. He is a leader as well as a great defender. But with a combination of Alderwiereld and Gardos, we have more depth and solid cover. Probably the only area I'd say we are notably weaker in the 1st team until proven otherwise. So then we have the additions of Forster and Mane, which to me are simply quality signings adding to the strength and depth. Particularly excited about Mane. All in all, our team is equipped with a lot more pace this season - the one thing we truly lacked last season. We may not be as tight, retain the ball quite so well as under the Pochettino regime, more down to tactic than personnel, but I expect we'll see a lot more open games and goal fests. We've still got building to do but so far I tip my hat to the board and I for one am a very excited saints fan. I think i will be reaping the benefits of a fair few bets this season! COYR! Saint Tony
  • Score: 12

11:00am Tue 2 Sep 14

dockboy says...

From the Ashes

Each time Saints stumble, they rise to be bigger and better.
From the Ashes Each time Saints stumble, they rise to be bigger and better. dockboy
  • Score: 9

11:13am Tue 2 Sep 14

Shareholder says...

For once I'm in total agreement with the Echo. You didn't exactly shower yourselves in glory though during the height of the player sales and did much to whip up the frenzy of anger and rage. But that's in the past and football will always generate strong opinions and debate. Some of the reactions were particularly repugnant especially those aimed at the club's owner - some people should come back on here and offer up their apologies. I have remained constant throughout the summer in my belief that only good would come out of this summer of large scale change. As a former player I didn't find much surprising in any of our former stars' behaviour and I saw little to bother me in the reactions of the Board save for a few PR blunders. Overall it's football and I'm content to have been supportive of the club throughout. I've been accused of being a happy clapper but I could care less - I'm still happy and clapping pretty darned hard right now! But as I've said in another thread, this is time to let bygones be bygones, not to **** a snook at the so called 'neggies' or those we disagree with. It's time to regroup as Clan Saints, get back behind the team and the club and celebrate the fact we have emerged stronger and better - still positive, still ambitious, still owned by a thoroughly decent family, still run by a dedicated, professional and highly effective set of executives. I think, looking at what's been assembled, that we will realise all of Ralph Krueger's statements and emerge successful. And much of that will be down to Les Reed, the real mastermind behind the summer dealings. We've now seen he's no dummy, no pushover and not the dimwit some have accused him of being. So let's all get back to what we're good at - supporters supporting and managers managing. After all, at the end of the day we're all Saints and we don't hate each other - we reserve that for crooks down the M27 and the ones who left us having lied and cheated their way out. We're still in that number, marching on.
For once I'm in total agreement with the Echo. You didn't exactly shower yourselves in glory though during the height of the player sales and did much to whip up the frenzy of anger and rage. But that's in the past and football will always generate strong opinions and debate. Some of the reactions were particularly repugnant especially those aimed at the club's owner - some people should come back on here and offer up their apologies. I have remained constant throughout the summer in my belief that only good would come out of this summer of large scale change. As a former player I didn't find much surprising in any of our former stars' behaviour and I saw little to bother me in the reactions of the Board save for a few PR blunders. Overall it's football and I'm content to have been supportive of the club throughout. I've been accused of being a happy clapper but I could care less - I'm still happy and clapping pretty darned hard right now! But as I've said in another thread, this is time to let bygones be bygones, not to **** a snook at the so called 'neggies' or those we disagree with. It's time to regroup as Clan Saints, get back behind the team and the club and celebrate the fact we have emerged stronger and better - still positive, still ambitious, still owned by a thoroughly decent family, still run by a dedicated, professional and highly effective set of executives. I think, looking at what's been assembled, that we will realise all of Ralph Krueger's statements and emerge successful. And much of that will be down to Les Reed, the real mastermind behind the summer dealings. We've now seen he's no dummy, no pushover and not the dimwit some have accused him of being. So let's all get back to what we're good at - supporters supporting and managers managing. After all, at the end of the day we're all Saints and we don't hate each other - we reserve that for crooks down the M27 and the ones who left us having lied and cheated their way out. We're still in that number, marching on. Shareholder
  • Score: 9

11:25am Tue 2 Sep 14

mark.wareham says...

FleetSaint wrote:
For the first time ever I can safely say come Sep 1st I am a happy man.

Look at who came in:

Ryan Bertrand - Ready and replacing a one season startlet. Already better defensively if not as marauding forward as Shaw. - SOLID

Gardos - Untried but compared to Hooiveld must be an improvement

Alderweireld - Champions League final defender - VERY STRONG

Dusan - From what I have seen he is Lallana and some. Skillfull, attacking and scaring defenses

Mane - Seen this chap before and was impressed. More pace, knows where the goal is.

Pelle - Had my concerns but since Millwall he has looked much better and now has found the way to goal. Lambert is 32 and is coming to the end. Maybe he would not have been first choice every match now. The signs of improvement as he settles in bodes well.

Long - Interesting. Can't fault his commitment but probably not a world blazer but runs, is willing and will come good.

Forster - 100% improvment. Solid and better than Boruc.

Add to the fact we have J-Rod to come back, kept Cork and Schneiderlin and we are very strong.

GK - Forster
LB - Bertrand
CB - Alderwiereld
CB -Fonte
RB - Clyne
LM - Tadic
CM - Cork/Wanyama
CM - Davis
AM - Ward-Prowse/Long
RM - Mane
CF - Pelle

Bench
GK - Boruc (Didn't go so back in)
DF - Gardos
DF - Maya
MF - Cork
AM - Mayuka
FW - Long
Young player - Reed/Isgrove etc

We have a bench to make a change and it allows changes in system. So Ralph indeed Sep 1st I can look you in the eye and say well done. SIGNING OF THE SUMMER? - Ronald Koeman. WE MARCH ON.
team line-up there looks well exciting, though what happened to Morgan? In for Davis maybe?
[quote][p][bold]FleetSaint[/bold] wrote: For the first time ever I can safely say come Sep 1st I am a happy man. Look at who came in: Ryan Bertrand - Ready and replacing a one season startlet. Already better defensively if not as marauding forward as Shaw. - SOLID Gardos - Untried but compared to Hooiveld must be an improvement Alderweireld - Champions League final defender - VERY STRONG Dusan - From what I have seen he is Lallana and some. Skillfull, attacking and scaring defenses Mane - Seen this chap before and was impressed. More pace, knows where the goal is. Pelle - Had my concerns but since Millwall he has looked much better and now has found the way to goal. Lambert is 32 and is coming to the end. Maybe he would not have been first choice every match now. The signs of improvement as he settles in bodes well. Long - Interesting. Can't fault his commitment but probably not a world blazer but runs, is willing and will come good. Forster - 100% improvment. Solid and better than Boruc. Add to the fact we have J-Rod to come back, kept Cork and Schneiderlin and we are very strong. GK - Forster LB - Bertrand CB - Alderwiereld CB -Fonte RB - Clyne LM - Tadic CM - Cork/Wanyama CM - Davis AM - Ward-Prowse/Long RM - Mane CF - Pelle Bench GK - Boruc (Didn't go so back in) DF - Gardos DF - Maya MF - Cork AM - Mayuka FW - Long Young player - Reed/Isgrove etc We have a bench to make a change and it allows changes in system. So Ralph indeed Sep 1st I can look you in the eye and say well done. SIGNING OF THE SUMMER? - Ronald Koeman. WE MARCH ON.[/p][/quote]team line-up there looks well exciting, though what happened to Morgan? In for Davis maybe? mark.wareham
  • Score: 5

12:02pm Tue 2 Sep 14

lowe esteem says...

In the MANE they look TOBY the right type of players for us.
Methinks they're actually Ron's choices too.
In the MANE they look TOBY the right type of players for us. Methinks they're actually Ron's choices too. lowe esteem
  • Score: 6

12:03pm Tue 2 Sep 14

N Ireland Saint says...

KL, i think your Father would be very proud of the way you have continued his dream, you are one fine Lady. Thank you.
KL, i think your Father would be very proud of the way you have continued his dream, you are one fine Lady. Thank you. N Ireland Saint
  • Score: 32

12:36pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Jonny7oma says...

I think that had last seasons Saints won at West Ham, we'd think here we go again, another fine season on the cards, The fact that we did it with an almost brand new team is in my opinion, already an improvement. One game at a time though eh.
Up until now, I hadn't been able to listen to Saints on the radio let alone go and watch them. I couldn't really put my finger on it but I think I was expecting what ever good that came from the first few games would be snatched away from us before the window closed. Now I can go and support the manager and his team properly. A great weight has been lifted.
I think that had last seasons Saints won at West Ham, we'd think here we go again, another fine season on the cards, The fact that we did it with an almost brand new team is in my opinion, already an improvement. One game at a time though eh. Up until now, I hadn't been able to listen to Saints on the radio let alone go and watch them. I couldn't really put my finger on it but I think I was expecting what ever good that came from the first few games would be snatched away from us before the window closed. Now I can go and support the manager and his team properly. A great weight has been lifted. Jonny7oma
  • Score: 8

12:54pm Tue 2 Sep 14

DisplacedFan says...

Lets not get ahead of ourselves yet. I am hopeful that we will have a better season. Yes we outplayed Wet Spam, but it took two goals from Morgan. How often can we hope for that? I still think we are weak at the front. We certainly did not spend all of the money we were offered. Could we have bought better quality? Time will tell. I am not convinced the Board has what it takes to take us to the top. Still, we are in better days tha the Rupert era and for that I am very happy.
Lets not get ahead of ourselves yet. I am hopeful that we will have a better season. Yes we outplayed Wet Spam, but it took two goals from Morgan. How often can we hope for that? I still think we are weak at the front. We certainly did not spend all of the money we were offered. Could we have bought better quality? Time will tell. I am not convinced the Board has what it takes to take us to the top. Still, we are in better days tha the Rupert era and for that I am very happy. DisplacedFan
  • Score: -12

1:41pm Tue 2 Sep 14

SaintAsh1964 says...

DisplacedFan wrote:
Lets not get ahead of ourselves yet. I am hopeful that we will have a better season. Yes we outplayed Wet Spam, but it took two goals from Morgan. How often can we hope for that? I still think we are weak at the front. We certainly did not spend all of the money we were offered. Could we have bought better quality? Time will tell. I am not convinced the Board has what it takes to take us to the top. Still, we are in better days tha the Rupert era and for that I am very happy.
Yeah, could have taken Rooney & Aguero to play up front, that would have been an improvement I suppose.
£95 million raised & £60+ million spent, RK said money raised would be spent on players AND wages, guess he's done that then.
And what board could take us to the top without building a 75k seat stadium,spend £100+ million pa on wages and have a squad value of £800+ million!
At least your happy that Rupert is no longer in charge.
UTS
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: Lets not get ahead of ourselves yet. I am hopeful that we will have a better season. Yes we outplayed Wet Spam, but it took two goals from Morgan. How often can we hope for that? I still think we are weak at the front. We certainly did not spend all of the money we were offered. Could we have bought better quality? Time will tell. I am not convinced the Board has what it takes to take us to the top. Still, we are in better days tha the Rupert era and for that I am very happy.[/p][/quote]Yeah, could have taken Rooney & Aguero to play up front, that would have been an improvement I suppose. £95 million raised & £60+ million spent, RK said money raised would be spent on players AND wages, guess he's done that then. And what board could take us to the top without building a 75k seat stadium,spend £100+ million pa on wages and have a squad value of £800+ million! At least your happy that Rupert is no longer in charge. UTS SaintAsh1964
  • Score: 4

1:45pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Alicesdad says...

Good stuff and a well reasoned article. The point about Pardew's foundations is particularly true and often forgotten. Only now are we seeing a true rebuild. As I said yesterday this is Rons team now and his influence runs through it like a stick of seaside rock.

When you strip away the nonsense and speculation that we bandy about on here the fact is the club is now stronger than last year, with a deeper stronger squad, a better manager, and big investment in new players.

The windfall money we got this time round wont be repeated every season, so it will be interesting to see how well we do and how much more gets invested at the end of next season. But that can wait .. a season is a very long time.
Good stuff and a well reasoned article. The point about Pardew's foundations is particularly true and often forgotten. Only now are we seeing a true rebuild. As I said yesterday this is Rons team now and his influence runs through it like a stick of seaside rock. When you strip away the nonsense and speculation that we bandy about on here the fact is the club is now stronger than last year, with a deeper stronger squad, a better manager, and big investment in new players. The windfall money we got this time round wont be repeated every season, so it will be interesting to see how well we do and how much more gets invested at the end of next season. But that can wait .. a season is a very long time. Alicesdad
  • Score: 6

2:51pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Malcombe says...

Saint Tony

Very good article and you got my thumbs up, I too have never doubted Les Reed and the Board, I Emailed Les but he couldn't reply because he was working abroad he's always working to bring the best to the Club, I had a reply from Becky his Secretary and then a phone call from his assistant thanking me for my Email and compliments and he had forwarded them on to Les.
Les Reed was being castigated by many Supporters that he was doing fa and was useless, not once did I ever accuse Les of this, he has a very important full time job almost 24/7 and just because he wasn't successful for 7/11 weeks in Managing a Professional Football Club (Charlton) doesn't make him incompetent in other positions in a Football Club and time has proved this.
It is early in the season thank goodness and I am a born optimist and believe the new Players appear to be gelling quickly judging by last Saturday's result at West Ham, JWP is playing out of his skin, the Players are playing with a smile and now the Squad looks like it's time for take off, Ronald Koeman is a very strong minded Manager who quickly put the message across that having been given the job he's in charge, he's got many years of experience over The Deceitful Liar and Managed and Coached some of the best Clubs in Europe, he's transparent in his interviews and we can all understand him,I am optimistic that within the next 10 games any thoughts about the previous Managers achievements will be dead and buried because Ronalds Team will of surpassed last seasons achievements, I truly believe this season is going to be a very exciting season and having seen Sadio Mane on Youtube there will need to be many rolls of Toilet Paper available for opposing defenders because this young man is like lightning and will set the Premiership alight with his fantastic play . COYR
Saint Tony Very good article and you got my thumbs up, I too have never doubted Les Reed and the Board, I Emailed Les but he couldn't reply because he was working abroad he's always working to bring the best to the Club, I had a reply from Becky his Secretary and then a phone call from his assistant thanking me for my Email and compliments and he had forwarded them on to Les. Les Reed was being castigated by many Supporters that he was doing fa and was useless, not once did I ever accuse Les of this, he has a very important full time job almost 24/7 and just because he wasn't successful for 7/11 weeks in Managing a Professional Football Club (Charlton) doesn't make him incompetent in other positions in a Football Club and time has proved this. It is early in the season thank goodness and I am a born optimist and believe the new Players appear to be gelling quickly judging by last Saturday's result at West Ham, JWP is playing out of his skin, the Players are playing with a smile and now the Squad looks like it's time for take off, Ronald Koeman is a very strong minded Manager who quickly put the message across that having been given the job he's in charge, he's got many years of experience over The Deceitful Liar and Managed and Coached some of the best Clubs in Europe, he's transparent in his interviews and we can all understand him,I am optimistic that within the next 10 games any thoughts about the previous Managers achievements will be dead and buried because Ronalds Team will of surpassed last seasons achievements, I truly believe this season is going to be a very exciting season and having seen Sadio Mane on Youtube there will need to be many rolls of Toilet Paper available for opposing defenders because this young man is like lightning and will set the Premiership alight with his fantastic play . COYR Malcombe
  • Score: 8

2:56pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Rising_Son says...

Graham, North of Watford says... "We now seem to be quite a lot like many of the other Clubs with realtively obscure foreign mercenaries playing for us."

Personally, I would prefer a team with no mercenaries, obscure or well-known, British or foreign. To me Lovren was no more a mercenary than Lallana, Shaw or Chambers.
Graham, North of Watford says... "We now seem to be quite a lot like many of the other Clubs with realtively obscure foreign mercenaries playing for us." Personally, I would prefer a team with no mercenaries, obscure or well-known, British or foreign. To me Lovren was no more a mercenary than Lallana, Shaw or Chambers. Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

3:10pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Rising_Son says...

DisplacedFan wrote:
Lets not get ahead of ourselves yet. I am hopeful that we will have a better season. Yes we outplayed Wet Spam, but it took two goals from Morgan. How often can we hope for that? I still think we are weak at the front. We certainly did not spend all of the money we were offered. Could we have bought better quality? Time will tell. I am not convinced the Board has what it takes to take us to the top. Still, we are in better days tha the Rupert era and for that I am very happy.
I'm not sure many people are getting ahead of themselves yet. We outplayed West Ham and Schneiderlin scored two. The main significance of that is that we have changed our style and Schneiderlin is getting forward much more than before. It doesn't mean that our forwards and other midfield players have become dysfunctional in front of goal. They get marked/closed down and the 'unexpected' Schneiderlin has space in the box. If the defenders pick up on Scheiderlin coming into the box, it should make space for someone else to have a go. On top of that, the new winger looks sharp enough to take advantage of the chances.
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: Lets not get ahead of ourselves yet. I am hopeful that we will have a better season. Yes we outplayed Wet Spam, but it took two goals from Morgan. How often can we hope for that? I still think we are weak at the front. We certainly did not spend all of the money we were offered. Could we have bought better quality? Time will tell. I am not convinced the Board has what it takes to take us to the top. Still, we are in better days tha the Rupert era and for that I am very happy.[/p][/quote]I'm not sure many people are getting ahead of themselves yet. We outplayed West Ham and Schneiderlin scored two. The main significance of that is that we have changed our style and Schneiderlin is getting forward much more than before. It doesn't mean that our forwards and other midfield players have become dysfunctional in front of goal. They get marked/closed down and the 'unexpected' Schneiderlin has space in the box. If the defenders pick up on Scheiderlin coming into the box, it should make space for someone else to have a go. On top of that, the new winger looks sharp enough to take advantage of the chances. Rising_Son
  • Score: 5

4:15pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Jesus_02 says...

Things that I agree with

This is a very different squad, under a different manager, and playing a slightly different way.

Things I don’t agree with

“It was inevitable that Saints were going to face a time where they had rebuild”

“Fraser Forster is…without question an improvement”

“With all due respect, a club like Saints”*

“The squad they had needed serious investment to have a chance of retaining eighth place this season”

“The maths is pretty simple then”**

* Adam before you press send make sure that you NEVER start a sentence like that. You are writing for saints fans, even if you are obviously not one

** This is something we can only guess at unless we know players wages. My view is that we are well “up” with increased TV money, reduced wages, and net transfer free profit more than making up for outstanding fee’s and investment in training facility. But unless we feel like the club is in danger, it really shouldn’t be an issue

I expect to come about 13th this season. But I am looking forward to a couple of great results. The following season we can REALLY push on.
Things that I agree with This is a very different squad, under a different manager, and playing a slightly different way. Things I don’t agree with “It was inevitable that Saints were going to face a time where they had rebuild” “Fraser Forster is…without question an improvement” “With all due respect, a club like Saints”* “The squad they had needed serious investment to have a chance of retaining eighth place this season” “The maths is pretty simple then”** * Adam before you press send make sure that you NEVER start a sentence like that. You are writing for saints fans, even if you are obviously not one ** This is something we can only guess at unless we know players wages. My view is that we are well “up” with increased TV money, reduced wages, and net transfer free profit more than making up for outstanding fee’s and investment in training facility. But unless we feel like the club is in danger, it really shouldn’t be an issue I expect to come about 13th this season. But I am looking forward to a couple of great results. The following season we can REALLY push on. Jesus_02
  • Score: 2

4:24pm Tue 2 Sep 14

elvis says...

I believe Ralph, Rambo ,Les & the rest of the board have done better than anybody ever imagined . I have a feeling that come May ,Judas ,Lalana,Loovens,Shaw & the rest will be thinking....oops !! X
I believe Ralph, Rambo ,Les & the rest of the board have done better than anybody ever imagined . I have a feeling that come May ,Judas ,Lalana,Loovens,Shaw & the rest will be thinking....oops !! X elvis
  • Score: 7

5:57pm Tue 2 Sep 14

TEqH 83 says...

Funny how Poch implied that the new board were not ambitious enough for him and his attitude rubbed off on the players that left. They were clearly all just thinking of themselves when and used that as an excuse. I don't think we could have upgraded the squad any better than we have bearing in mind our place in the pecking order and the calibre of players we have recruited. The only thing we lack now is the telepathy between the players that comes after weeks of playing together but that will come. Tactically we should be less predictable too. Good times. COYR
Funny how Poch implied that the new board were not ambitious enough for him and his attitude rubbed off on the players that left. They were clearly all just thinking of themselves when and used that as an excuse. I don't think we could have upgraded the squad any better than we have bearing in mind our place in the pecking order and the calibre of players we have recruited. The only thing we lack now is the telepathy between the players that comes after weeks of playing together but that will come. Tactically we should be less predictable too. Good times. COYR TEqH 83
  • Score: 5

6:14pm Tue 2 Sep 14

nysaint says...

Looking at this squad there really is no reason it cannot compete with ManU, Spurs and Everton for 5th. Don't think we should be looking at 8th... we should be looking higher!
Looking at this squad there really is no reason it cannot compete with ManU, Spurs and Everton for 5th. Don't think we should be looking at 8th... we should be looking higher! nysaint
  • Score: 10

6:51pm Tue 2 Sep 14

60s millbrook says...

first time iv commented on here and think the board have done a great job, if the players who left didn't want to be here im glad they have gone, a few apologise are owed to kat and the board maybe, I think as good if not better players and definitely a better manager!
first time iv commented on here and think the board have done a great job, if the players who left didn't want to be here im glad they have gone, a few apologise are owed to kat and the board maybe, I think as good if not better players and definitely a better manager! 60s millbrook
  • Score: 6

7:47pm Tue 2 Sep 14

warrens 76 says...

i asked for two marquee signings as the icing on the cake after slaughtering the hammers with awesome play…

And here they are…a Champions league final defender and a very quick wing man…wonderful, the summer has been like losing your job or business and you are in danger of losing everything you worked for…

…yet 6 weeks later you win the lottery…roller coaster does not begin to describe it.
i asked for two marquee signings as the icing on the cake after slaughtering the hammers with awesome play… And here they are…a Champions league final defender and a very quick wing man…wonderful, the summer has been like losing your job or business and you are in danger of losing everything you worked for… …yet 6 weeks later you win the lottery…roller coaster does not begin to describe it. warrens 76
  • Score: 3

8:07pm Tue 2 Sep 14

SaintJD says...

TEqH 83 wrote:
Funny how Poch implied that the new board were not ambitious enough for him and his attitude rubbed off on the players that left. They were clearly all just thinking of themselves when and used that as an excuse. I don't think we could have upgraded the squad any better than we have bearing in mind our place in the pecking order and the calibre of players we have recruited. The only thing we lack now is the telepathy between the players that comes after weeks of playing together but that will come. Tactically we should be less predictable too. Good times. COYR
I think Nicola has to take some blame for that. With all due respect, I don't think he needed to convince our then squad, and an out of work Espanyol manager, that we were going for top three. Go for it by all means, as we probably still are, but don't make it the sole reason players buy into the vision. If he'd told them we were aiming for Europe and slowly building something very exciting they may have remained happy.

Anyway, who cares, their loss.
[quote][p][bold]TEqH 83[/bold] wrote: Funny how Poch implied that the new board were not ambitious enough for him and his attitude rubbed off on the players that left. They were clearly all just thinking of themselves when and used that as an excuse. I don't think we could have upgraded the squad any better than we have bearing in mind our place in the pecking order and the calibre of players we have recruited. The only thing we lack now is the telepathy between the players that comes after weeks of playing together but that will come. Tactically we should be less predictable too. Good times. COYR[/p][/quote]I think Nicola has to take some blame for that. With all due respect, I don't think he needed to convince our then squad, and an out of work Espanyol manager, that we were going for top three. Go for it by all means, as we probably still are, but don't make it the sole reason players buy into the vision. If he'd told them we were aiming for Europe and slowly building something very exciting they may have remained happy. Anyway, who cares, their loss. SaintJD
  • Score: 3

8:13pm Tue 2 Sep 14

techsture says...

I hold my hands up.

I thought Ralph was on a one man mission to do a Peter Storey.

The squad IS better. You squandered 10 million too much on Shane Long though.

Id rather have kept Guly.
I hold my hands up. I thought Ralph was on a one man mission to do a Peter Storey. The squad IS better. You squandered 10 million too much on Shane Long though. Id rather have kept Guly. techsture
  • Score: -9

9:43pm Tue 2 Sep 14

TEqH 83 says...

SaintJD wrote:
TEqH 83 wrote:
Funny how Poch implied that the new board were not ambitious enough for him and his attitude rubbed off on the players that left. They were clearly all just thinking of themselves when and used that as an excuse. I don't think we could have upgraded the squad any better than we have bearing in mind our place in the pecking order and the calibre of players we have recruited. The only thing we lack now is the telepathy between the players that comes after weeks of playing together but that will come. Tactically we should be less predictable too. Good times. COYR
I think Nicola has to take some blame for that. With all due respect, I don't think he needed to convince our then squad, and an out of work Espanyol manager, that we were going for top three. Go for it by all means, as we probably still are, but don't make it the sole reason players buy into the vision. If he'd told them we were aiming for Europe and slowly building something very exciting they may have remained happy.

Anyway, who cares, their loss.
True that, and in retrospect Nicola was gambling beyond the club's means expecting the Liebherrs to fund his adventure at arm's length. Hopefully now we're on a more sustainable rise towards the European spots and in much better shape even of it might take a bit longer to get there.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEqH 83[/bold] wrote: Funny how Poch implied that the new board were not ambitious enough for him and his attitude rubbed off on the players that left. They were clearly all just thinking of themselves when and used that as an excuse. I don't think we could have upgraded the squad any better than we have bearing in mind our place in the pecking order and the calibre of players we have recruited. The only thing we lack now is the telepathy between the players that comes after weeks of playing together but that will come. Tactically we should be less predictable too. Good times. COYR[/p][/quote]I think Nicola has to take some blame for that. With all due respect, I don't think he needed to convince our then squad, and an out of work Espanyol manager, that we were going for top three. Go for it by all means, as we probably still are, but don't make it the sole reason players buy into the vision. If he'd told them we were aiming for Europe and slowly building something very exciting they may have remained happy. Anyway, who cares, their loss.[/p][/quote]True that, and in retrospect Nicola was gambling beyond the club's means expecting the Liebherrs to fund his adventure at arm's length. Hopefully now we're on a more sustainable rise towards the European spots and in much better shape even of it might take a bit longer to get there. TEqH 83
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1:47pm Wed 3 Sep 14

thinklikealocal says...

Ozmosis wrote:
StevenAus wrote:
I'm excited and optimistic about this season. Let's just hope they can all gel quickly and that all the others want to be here and not cause trouble. Also time for the doom mangers etc to lay off the board who have a good job albeit with a couple of PR disasters in there but recovered well. Schneiderlin will probably still go I the summer but stranger things have happened.
If the team gel and kick on as they have the potential to do, then I'd not be entirely surprised to see Morgan stay - assuming we can do something to offset the wages that the other teams can offer
I would love that outcome but was worried about his body language on Saturday. Very little celebration of his goals, looked very glum indeed...
[quote][p][bold]Ozmosis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StevenAus[/bold] wrote: I'm excited and optimistic about this season. Let's just hope they can all gel quickly and that all the others want to be here and not cause trouble. Also time for the doom mangers etc to lay off the board who have a good job albeit with a couple of PR disasters in there but recovered well. Schneiderlin will probably still go I the summer but stranger things have happened.[/p][/quote]If the team gel and kick on as they have the potential to do, then I'd not be entirely surprised to see Morgan stay - assuming we can do something to offset the wages that the other teams can offer[/p][/quote]I would love that outcome but was worried about his body language on Saturday. Very little celebration of his goals, looked very glum indeed... thinklikealocal
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2:51pm Wed 3 Sep 14

lowe esteem says...

techsture wrote:
I hold my hands up.

I thought Ralph was on a one man mission to do a Peter Storey.

The squad IS better. You squandered 10 million too much on Shane Long though.

Id rather have kept Guly.
If I hear someone in St Mary's slagging off Shane Long while he's got a Saints shirt on, (or anyone else) I won't be responsible for my actions, believe me, and it won't be a touchy feely love in a la Neggys'n'Clappers either!
Saints forever.
[quote][p][bold]techsture[/bold] wrote: I hold my hands up. I thought Ralph was on a one man mission to do a Peter Storey. The squad IS better. You squandered 10 million too much on Shane Long though. Id rather have kept Guly.[/p][/quote]If I hear someone in St Mary's slagging off Shane Long while he's got a Saints shirt on, (or anyone else) I won't be responsible for my actions, believe me, and it won't be a touchy feely love in a la Neggys'n'Clappers either! Saints forever. lowe esteem
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3:16pm Wed 3 Sep 14

batesieboy says...

nysaint wrote:
Looking at this squad there really is no reason it cannot compete with ManU, Spurs and Everton for 5th. Don't think we should be looking at 8th... we should be looking higher!
Love the typical Yank "can do" attitude!!
[quote][p][bold]nysaint[/bold] wrote: Looking at this squad there really is no reason it cannot compete with ManU, Spurs and Everton for 5th. Don't think we should be looking at 8th... we should be looking higher![/p][/quote]Love the typical Yank "can do" attitude!! batesieboy
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3:36pm Wed 3 Sep 14

deepheat says...

This will make you laugh.

According to quotes attributed to Van Gaal, he has said, “if I wanted an easy life, I would have gone to Tottenham Hotspur.”

Anyway if you want to know at a glance all there is to know about Saints ( Market value, Average age, players, etc. etc ) go here-:

http://www.transferm

arkt.co.uk/fc-southa

mpton/startseite/ver

ein/180/saison_id/20

14
This will make you laugh. According to quotes attributed to Van Gaal, he has said, “if I wanted an easy life, I would have gone to Tottenham Hotspur.” Anyway if you want to know at a glance all there is to know about Saints ( Market value, Average age, players, etc. etc ) go here-: http://www.transferm arkt.co.uk/fc-southa mpton/startseite/ver ein/180/saison_id/20 14 deepheat
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3:37pm Wed 3 Sep 14

deepheat says...

This will make you lot laugh.

According to quotes attributed to Van Gaal, he has said, “if I wanted an easy life, I would have gone to Tottenham Hotspur.”

Anyway if you want to know at a glance all there is to know about Saints ( Market value, Average age, players, etc. etc ) go here-:

http://www.transferm

arkt.co.uk/fc-southa

mpton/startseite/ver

ein/180/saison_id/20

14
This will make you lot laugh. According to quotes attributed to Van Gaal, he has said, “if I wanted an easy life, I would have gone to Tottenham Hotspur.” Anyway if you want to know at a glance all there is to know about Saints ( Market value, Average age, players, etc. etc ) go here-: http://www.transferm arkt.co.uk/fc-southa mpton/startseite/ver ein/180/saison_id/20 14 deepheat
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3:39pm Wed 3 Sep 14

mickey01 says...

see what happens in january
see what happens in january mickey01
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7:17pm Wed 3 Sep 14

SFCOLDBOY says...

warrens 76 wrote:
i asked for two marquee signings as the icing on the cake after slaughtering the hammers with awesome play…

And here they are…a Champions league final defender and a very quick wing man…wonderful, the summer has been like losing your job or business and you are in danger of losing everything you worked for…

…yet 6 weeks later you win the lottery…roller coaster does not begin to describe it.
Great to see your positivity Warrens.
I have seen your posts for a very long time , I.M.O.they have always been consistent.
I have also seen the criticism over your views.
This last week has seen many of the things you and I have seen as short comings of the previous regimes and the need to improve these areas.
This seems now to be the case with the potential quality of the new management and players.
Regardless of the final outcome this season,it seems at long last,( and I say this after over 50 years of supporting), we seem to be moving into the big league.
COYS
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: i asked for two marquee signings as the icing on the cake after slaughtering the hammers with awesome play… And here they are…a Champions league final defender and a very quick wing man…wonderful, the summer has been like losing your job or business and you are in danger of losing everything you worked for… …yet 6 weeks later you win the lottery…roller coaster does not begin to describe it.[/p][/quote]Great to see your positivity Warrens. I have seen your posts for a very long time , I.M.O.they have always been consistent. I have also seen the criticism over your views. This last week has seen many of the things you and I have seen as short comings of the previous regimes and the need to improve these areas. This seems now to be the case with the potential quality of the new management and players. Regardless of the final outcome this season,it seems at long last,( and I say this after over 50 years of supporting), we seem to be moving into the big league. COYS SFCOLDBOY
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7:59pm Wed 3 Sep 14

Zippo1 says...

I think we should all thank KL and the board for restoring the faith.
True commitment shown in all the signings. A top half finish guaranteed in my opinion and a plan to be top six within a couple more seasons. It's great to be optimistic but we should be realistic at the same time. COYR.
I think we should all thank KL and the board for restoring the faith. True commitment shown in all the signings. A top half finish guaranteed in my opinion and a plan to be top six within a couple more seasons. It's great to be optimistic but we should be realistic at the same time. COYR. Zippo1
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