Artur Boruc has told Saints he wants to leave the club after losing his place in the team

Artur Boruc

Artur Boruc

First published in Sport Basingstoke Gazette: Photograph of the Author by , Senior Sports Reporter

Ronald Koeman has revealed that Artur Boruc wants to leave Saints, and that the club are willing to move him on before the transfer window closes.

The keeper has informed the manager that he is keen to depart St Mary’s, having lost his position in the team following the £10m arrival of Fraser Forster from Celtic.

Koeman explained that he understands Boruc’s position and that he believes it will be best for both parties if he can find a new club.

He added that the 34-year-old Polish international will not be involved with the team while the window remains open.

“He’s training like he did before, that’s no problem,” said the Saints boss.

“I spoke to him. I said ‘ok, I know you would like to move.’ That’s normal after the decision that has been made in his position, and until the deadline he will not be on the team.

“If he stays, ok, then it will be a new situation and we will think about it.

“When he moves, I think that is the best for Artur and the best for the club.”

Koeman insisted he was not upset at Boruc’s desire to move.

“No, I’m not frustrated,” he said. “I think it’s a normal situation that he believes in himself.

“He has to think of the Polish national team, and to be part of that he has to play, and that’s a normal situation.

“I can understand that, because I like players who will do everything to play.”

Koeman would not be drawn on a possible move for Tottenham winger Andros Townsend, but he did reaffirm there was no way Morgan Schneiderlin would move in the opposite direction, saying it wouldn’t matter even if Spurs vastly improved their £12m bid for the midfielder.

“It doesn’t depend on the offer, because he will stay in Southampton,” he said.

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10:42pm Thu 21 Aug 14

03alpe01 says...

I hear the parent club are looking for a decent backup to Simon Mignolet. Go for it Artur. Position is yours.
I hear the parent club are looking for a decent backup to Simon Mignolet. Go for it Artur. Position is yours. 03alpe01
  • Score: -30

10:47pm Thu 21 Aug 14

noodlesnewman says...

03alpe01 wrote:
I hear the parent club are looking for a decent backup to Simon Mignolet. Go for it Artur. Position is yours.
love artur but wont miss his dodgy kicking , would have been a great back up keeper tho !
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: I hear the parent club are looking for a decent backup to Simon Mignolet. Go for it Artur. Position is yours.[/p][/quote]love artur but wont miss his dodgy kicking , would have been a great back up keeper tho ! noodlesnewman
  • Score: 56

10:53pm Thu 21 Aug 14

north wales saint 2 says...

Can quite understand why he wants to go.Would anybody as talented as him be happy to be on the bench?A great shame because he is such a good keeper.Pity we can,t have both him and Forster but Artur has obviously made his feelings known to R K and I think we can appreciate if and why he wants to move on.
Can quite understand why he wants to go.Would anybody as talented as him be happy to be on the bench?A great shame because he is such a good keeper.Pity we can,t have both him and Forster but Artur has obviously made his feelings known to R K and I think we can appreciate if and why he wants to move on. north wales saint 2
  • Score: 53

10:54pm Thu 21 Aug 14

DisplacedFan says...

Good luck to Artur. Would like to see him go to a rival and then wait for a back pass!
Good luck to Artur. Would like to see him go to a rival and then wait for a back pass! DisplacedFan
  • Score: 26

11:06pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

The bad news isn't over then.
The bad news isn't over then. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -105

11:07pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Velleity says...

We'll be back in the situation we were in last year. Forster gets injured and we're back to Gazza or Kelvin.

The problem is, who could we sign who is good and who wants to sit on the bench waiting for Fraser to hurt himself? Always difficult to sign good back-up keepers for that reason.

And for the inevitable comment about how we shouldn't have put Boruc into number two position until he lost the place on merit (which I happen to agree with if it weren't for the following problem) the problem there is that we well might not have had Forster prepared to sign under those conditions. And no, I don't know how you solve the problem of getting a good backup keeper who is prepared to wait.
We'll be back in the situation we were in last year. Forster gets injured and we're back to Gazza or Kelvin. The problem is, who could we sign who is good and who wants to sit on the bench waiting for Fraser to hurt himself? Always difficult to sign good back-up keepers for that reason. And for the inevitable comment about how we shouldn't have put Boruc into number two position until he lost the place on merit (which I happen to agree with if it weren't for the following problem) the problem there is that we well might not have had Forster prepared to sign under those conditions. And no, I don't know how you solve the problem of getting a good backup keeper who is prepared to wait. Velleity
  • Score: 49

11:09pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Tirau Dan says...

Thanks for keeping us in the loop Ronald. Good on you, keep up the good work rebuilding. All the best for a top finish.

Cheers Artur all the best where ever you end up.
Thanks for keeping us in the loop Ronald. Good on you, keep up the good work rebuilding. All the best for a top finish. Cheers Artur all the best where ever you end up. Tirau Dan
  • Score: 115

11:31pm Thu 21 Aug 14

THE12THMAN says...

It is very hard trying to keep two good keepers happy at a football club, even Chelsea are struggling to keep Czech and they have champions league football. We will just have to hope that Forster doesn't get injured.
It is very hard trying to keep two good keepers happy at a football club, even Chelsea are struggling to keep Czech and they have champions league football. We will just have to hope that Forster doesn't get injured. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 33

11:32pm Thu 21 Aug 14

SAINT NZ says...

I am so excited about this weekend. Please lads, don't let me down!
I am so excited about this weekend. Please lads, don't let me down! SAINT NZ
  • Score: 30

11:39pm Thu 21 Aug 14

mr miyagi says...

Surely Artur must know, at the age of 34, he may not get another chance at a Premier League club as number one, and would accept the situation that he would be succeeded by a younger keeper, similar to Friedel when Lloris signed for Spuds.

As mentioned above, this just puts us back into the same situation as last season, with a number one, but no back up. I assume Ronald is not actually that happy with Artur wanting to leave as he states.
Surely Artur must know, at the age of 34, he may not get another chance at a Premier League club as number one, and would accept the situation that he would be succeeded by a younger keeper, similar to Friedel when Lloris signed for Spuds. As mentioned above, this just puts us back into the same situation as last season, with a number one, but no back up. I assume Ronald is not actually that happy with Artur wanting to leave as he states. mr miyagi
  • Score: 25

11:46pm Thu 21 Aug 14

vidman says...

It was on here last week that a German club were interested in him, that is why he wants out
It was on here last week that a German club were interested in him, that is why he wants out vidman
  • Score: 5

11:51pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Velleity says...

vidman wrote:
It was on here last week that a German club were interested in him, that is why he wants out
Except that that's an offer to be number two goalkeeper again. And most Bundesliga teams pay much less than EPL teams.

I suspect he just wants a number one slot somewhere; both for pride's sake and to keep up his chances of playing for Poland.
[quote][p][bold]vidman[/bold] wrote: It was on here last week that a German club were interested in him, that is why he wants out[/p][/quote]Except that that's an offer to be number two goalkeeper again. And most Bundesliga teams pay much less than EPL teams. I suspect he just wants a number one slot somewhere; both for pride's sake and to keep up his chances of playing for Poland. Velleity
  • Score: 26

12:00am Fri 22 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

Pity. I like Artur. He is a great character and a pretty decent goalkeeper, and I will be sad to see him go. Still, it's not unexpected. He doesn't seem to be the type of player who is happy to sit on the bench.

Good luck. I've enjoyed watching you play for Saints.
Pity. I like Artur. He is a great character and a pretty decent goalkeeper, and I will be sad to see him go. Still, it's not unexpected. He doesn't seem to be the type of player who is happy to sit on the bench. Good luck. I've enjoyed watching you play for Saints. Rising_Son
  • Score: 54

12:10am Fri 22 Aug 14

Jesus_02 says...

vidman wrote:
It was on here last week that a German club were interested in him, that is why he wants out
Grrr.. if only the echo had kept quiet about that!
[quote][p][bold]vidman[/bold] wrote: It was on here last week that a German club were interested in him, that is why he wants out[/p][/quote]Grrr.. if only the echo had kept quiet about that! Jesus_02
  • Score: 6

12:23am Fri 22 Aug 14

Jesus_02 says...

Absolutely gutted, OK he made 1 huge gaff. ( was Sunderland really his fault?) . " dodgy kicking" is bull. He was obviously told to do that.

Best Keeper we have had for a good while, and we got him on a free.

How many of last seasons players will end up leaving. The situation with Cork doesn't look great if we are looking to get that Uraguay OAP in for 5m plus unlimited travel on the number 7 bus. No wonder Morgan is p1ssed off.
Hull sell shane Long, buy Jordan Rhodes and are off down the offie with the proffit.

It's not all negative though we ALMOST got a point against a team we beat last year who has lost the leagues best striker.
Absolutely gutted, OK he made 1 huge gaff. ( was Sunderland really his fault?) . " dodgy kicking" is bull. He was obviously told to do that. Best Keeper we have had for a good while, and we got him on a free. How many of last seasons players will end up leaving. The situation with Cork doesn't look great if we are looking to get that Uraguay OAP in for 5m plus unlimited travel on the number 7 bus. No wonder Morgan is p1ssed off. Hull sell shane Long, buy Jordan Rhodes and are off down the offie with the proffit. It's not all negative though we ALMOST got a point against a team we beat last year who has lost the leagues best striker. Jesus_02
  • Score: -65

12:23am Fri 22 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Velleity wrote:
vidman wrote:
It was on here last week that a German club were interested in him, that is why he wants out
Except that that's an offer to be number two goalkeeper again. And most Bundesliga teams pay much less than EPL teams.

I suspect he just wants a number one slot somewhere; both for pride's sake and to keep up his chances of playing for Poland.
and that german club was Bayern munich and they have signed pepe reina as back up to Manuel Neuer whos probably the best keeper in the world.

I feel its a shame that AB doesn't think he has a chance of breaking back into the first team, he is a good keeper but, as has been said more than once, his distribution is woeful. forster was kicking the ball with both feet on sunday, equally as well and rarely made a error with his kicking.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vidman[/bold] wrote: It was on here last week that a German club were interested in him, that is why he wants out[/p][/quote]Except that that's an offer to be number two goalkeeper again. And most Bundesliga teams pay much less than EPL teams. I suspect he just wants a number one slot somewhere; both for pride's sake and to keep up his chances of playing for Poland.[/p][/quote]and that german club was Bayern munich and they have signed pepe reina as back up to Manuel Neuer whos probably the best keeper in the world. I feel its a shame that AB doesn't think he has a chance of breaking back into the first team, he is a good keeper but, as has been said more than once, his distribution is woeful. forster was kicking the ball with both feet on sunday, equally as well and rarely made a error with his kicking. de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 36

12:48am Fri 22 Aug 14

buckie says...

i will try to be objective and rate Forster after i"ve seen ten games or so but in my opinion i would still like Boruc in goal i know he"s had his problems with us his kicking sometimes leaves alot to be desired but i would rate Boruc within the top 3 keepers that i have seen not sure in which order they are but my top 3 keepers are Boruc Flowers and Niemi i can understand why Boruc would want to go though he needs a competitive league and to be first choice keeper to retain his polish national place with the Arsenel keeper also around i just hope that Forster can fill the gloves of the "Holy Goalie" COYS
i will try to be objective and rate Forster after i"ve seen ten games or so but in my opinion i would still like Boruc in goal i know he"s had his problems with us his kicking sometimes leaves alot to be desired but i would rate Boruc within the top 3 keepers that i have seen not sure in which order they are but my top 3 keepers are Boruc Flowers and Niemi i can understand why Boruc would want to go though he needs a competitive league and to be first choice keeper to retain his polish national place with the Arsenel keeper also around i just hope that Forster can fill the gloves of the "Holy Goalie" COYS buckie
  • Score: 10

12:49am Fri 22 Aug 14

techsture says...

Id have Boruc over Forster anyday of the week. Best keeper since Shilton.
Id have Boruc over Forster anyday of the week. Best keeper since Shilton. techsture
  • Score: -47

4:32am Fri 22 Aug 14

Chicago Saint says...

Velleity wrote:
We'll be back in the situation we were in last year. Forster gets injured and we're back to Gazza or Kelvin.

The problem is, who could we sign who is good and who wants to sit on the bench waiting for Fraser to hurt himself? Always difficult to sign good back-up keepers for that reason.

And for the inevitable comment about how we shouldn't have put Boruc into number two position until he lost the place on merit (which I happen to agree with if it weren't for the following problem) the problem there is that we well might not have had Forster prepared to sign under those conditions. And no, I don't know how you solve the problem of getting a good backup keeper who is prepared to wait.
All we can do is wish Boruc well on his move. But let's not forget that albeit KD is older, he is a proven and capable keeper in the PL. He has proven himself time and time again and still provides good value at his position. I for one feel extremely confident with KD as our number 2, far better than our other options.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: We'll be back in the situation we were in last year. Forster gets injured and we're back to Gazza or Kelvin. The problem is, who could we sign who is good and who wants to sit on the bench waiting for Fraser to hurt himself? Always difficult to sign good back-up keepers for that reason. And for the inevitable comment about how we shouldn't have put Boruc into number two position until he lost the place on merit (which I happen to agree with if it weren't for the following problem) the problem there is that we well might not have had Forster prepared to sign under those conditions. And no, I don't know how you solve the problem of getting a good backup keeper who is prepared to wait.[/p][/quote]All we can do is wish Boruc well on his move. But let's not forget that albeit KD is older, he is a proven and capable keeper in the PL. He has proven himself time and time again and still provides good value at his position. I for one feel extremely confident with KD as our number 2, far better than our other options. Chicago Saint
  • Score: 11

5:34am Fri 22 Aug 14

Southampton boy says...

What about the other keeper from USA not sure of his name why not give him ago if he is still around
What about the other keeper from USA not sure of his name why not give him ago if he is still around Southampton boy
  • Score: 7

5:48am Fri 22 Aug 14

Letissthelastoftheloyal says...

Am I wrong in thinking he signed for us as a back up keeper? All the best to him if he does go and hopefully he won't move to another club and sit on the bench, because that would be a kick in the teeth for us.
Am I wrong in thinking he signed for us as a back up keeper? All the best to him if he does go and hopefully he won't move to another club and sit on the bench, because that would be a kick in the teeth for us. Letissthelastoftheloyal
  • Score: 12

6:11am Fri 22 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

Southampton boy wrote:
What about the other keeper from USA not sure of his name why not give him ago if he is still around
His name is Cody Cropper, I believe he and Gazz are in the under 21 team
[quote][p][bold]Southampton boy[/bold] wrote: What about the other keeper from USA not sure of his name why not give him ago if he is still around[/p][/quote]His name is Cody Cropper, I believe he and Gazz are in the under 21 team KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 10

6:45am Fri 22 Aug 14

Norwegian Saint says...

Good luck for the future Artur, I will always remember the "riverdance" at Arsenal, the goal at Stoke and throwing the bottle at us fans... but will also remember some fantastic saves.

As mentioned before on other posts "best since Shilton"???
What about Antti Niemi!!!???
Good luck for the future Artur, I will always remember the "riverdance" at Arsenal, the goal at Stoke and throwing the bottle at us fans... but will also remember some fantastic saves. As mentioned before on other posts "best since Shilton"??? What about Antti Niemi!!!??? Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 33

6:59am Fri 22 Aug 14

BehindEnemyLines says...

Tough decision this one, Artur is a good keeper, dodgy kicking but brave and quick off his line. FF's distribution looked pretty good last week, off both feet, but he didn't look so mobile, especially for their first where he was rooted to his line.
Either way not sure there is much between these two so would be a shame, sure he will go with our blessing.....
Favourite Artur moment???? Penalty save at Norwich?
Tough decision this one, Artur is a good keeper, dodgy kicking but brave and quick off his line. FF's distribution looked pretty good last week, off both feet, but he didn't look so mobile, especially for their first where he was rooted to his line. Either way not sure there is much between these two so would be a shame, sure he will go with our blessing..... Favourite Artur moment???? Penalty save at Norwich? BehindEnemyLines
  • Score: 20

7:05am Fri 22 Aug 14

mack chinnon says...

I rate Gazza.
I rate Gazza. mack chinnon
  • Score: -21

7:19am Fri 22 Aug 14

NC Fan4Life says...

At 34 Artur wants and needs to be first choice and could well have another 3 or more years in him at this level. Hope he stays but understand it if he goes.
We have retained Cody Cropper so must see something in him and with our England Goal-keeping coach working with Gazza we may not need a replacement if they feel one of these can fill in, if not then expect a possible loan signing for temporary cover.
At 34 Artur wants and needs to be first choice and could well have another 3 or more years in him at this level. Hope he stays but understand it if he goes. We have retained Cody Cropper so must see something in him and with our England Goal-keeping coach working with Gazza we may not need a replacement if they feel one of these can fill in, if not then expect a possible loan signing for temporary cover. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 8

7:20am Fri 22 Aug 14

jls217 says...

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
Southampton boy wrote:
What about the other keeper from USA not sure of his name why not give him ago if he is still around
His name is Cody Cropper, I believe he and Gazz are in the under 21 team
Good things are being said about the potential of our American import. Works very hard, determined and could one day be a top keeper. Time will tell.
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Southampton boy[/bold] wrote: What about the other keeper from USA not sure of his name why not give him ago if he is still around[/p][/quote]His name is Cody Cropper, I believe he and Gazz are in the under 21 team[/p][/quote]Good things are being said about the potential of our American import. Works very hard, determined and could one day be a top keeper. Time will tell. jls217
  • Score: 15

7:27am Fri 22 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

This is endemic as to the problems at SFC.

ARTUR is popular and very good. In 2014 the Management are unable to manage.

We wanted 2 x Number 1 Keepers for the League and the Cup and Fans will be sad that we cannot even seem to achieve this.

WE had the FIGHT from League One - and now fans are **** off as the Club seem to lack the ambitions of the Fans.

KEEP ARTUR and rotate him to give him plenty of playing time with Fraser.

COYR+WS
This is endemic as to the problems at SFC. ARTUR is popular and very good. In 2014 the Management are unable to manage. We wanted 2 x Number 1 Keepers for the League and the Cup and Fans will be sad that we cannot even seem to achieve this. WE had the FIGHT from League One - and now fans are **** off as the Club seem to lack the ambitions of the Fans. KEEP ARTUR and rotate him to give him plenty of playing time with Fraser. COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: -31

7:31am Fri 22 Aug 14

John Smith34 says...

The modern day footballer eh...loses his place so instantly wants to leave. What happened to knuckling down and fighting to get his place back...?
The modern day footballer eh...loses his place so instantly wants to leave. What happened to knuckling down and fighting to get his place back...? John Smith34
  • Score: 38

7:33am Fri 22 Aug 14

jls217 says...

If e were only five years younger I doubt we'd have felt the need to buy Forster. Make no mistake (and I've seen some truly great keepers with Saints over the years) Borat is up there with the best of them. A true madcap character type of keeper. I can understand his desire to finish in the top league somewhere - He could go on to 40yrs old and he's too good to fade away on our bench. A newly promoted club somewhere would be agreat move for him.
Wish him well no matter where he ends up - he's been good to us and I hope we've been good to him.
For those saying we are back where we started if he goes - disagree our keepers on the conveyor belt have all matured, grown and had another years experience under their belts so we must be a little better off. Gazza will one day make good or the club would not have persevered with him and we'v already covered Cody.
Good luck Borat will never forget the look on your face you threw the bottle back in the crowd - slapped a couple of dozen little gobshites back into their cages - all the phony indignation from the idiots who thought you might not stand up for yourself - priceless.
If e were only five years younger I doubt we'd have felt the need to buy Forster. Make no mistake (and I've seen some truly great keepers with Saints over the years) Borat is up there with the best of them. A true madcap character type of keeper. I can understand his desire to finish in the top league somewhere - He could go on to 40yrs old and he's too good to fade away on our bench. A newly promoted club somewhere would be agreat move for him. Wish him well no matter where he ends up - he's been good to us and I hope we've been good to him. For those saying we are back where we started if he goes - disagree our keepers on the conveyor belt have all matured, grown and had another years experience under their belts so we must be a little better off. Gazza will one day make good or the club would not have persevered with him and we'v already covered Cody. Good luck Borat will never forget the look on your face you threw the bottle back in the crowd - slapped a couple of dozen little gobshites back into their cages - all the phony indignation from the idiots who thought you might not stand up for yourself - priceless. jls217
  • Score: 11

7:36am Fri 22 Aug 14

SiamSaint says...

BehindEnemyLines wrote:
Tough decision this one, Artur is a good keeper, dodgy kicking but brave and quick off his line. FF's distribution looked pretty good last week, off both feet, but he didn't look so mobile, especially for their first where he was rooted to his line.
Either way not sure there is much between these two so would be a shame, sure he will go with our blessing.....
Favourite Artur moment???? Penalty save at Norwich?
Look at the replay. Hhe was way off his line
[quote][p][bold]BehindEnemyLines[/bold] wrote: Tough decision this one, Artur is a good keeper, dodgy kicking but brave and quick off his line. FF's distribution looked pretty good last week, off both feet, but he didn't look so mobile, especially for their first where he was rooted to his line. Either way not sure there is much between these two so would be a shame, sure he will go with our blessing..... Favourite Artur moment???? Penalty save at Norwich?[/p][/quote]Look at the replay. Hhe was way off his line SiamSaint
  • Score: -4

7:41am Fri 22 Aug 14

Ozmosis says...

I'll be sorry to see Boruc go, but fully understand why he wants to move on. Shame, as he'd have been an awesome second keeper. As others have said Forster needs to stay fit now
I'll be sorry to see Boruc go, but fully understand why he wants to move on. Shame, as he'd have been an awesome second keeper. As others have said Forster needs to stay fit now Ozmosis
  • Score: 10

7:42am Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

jls217 wrote:
If e were only five years younger I doubt we'd have felt the need to buy Forster. Make no mistake (and I've seen some truly great keepers with Saints over the years) Borat is up there with the best of them. A true madcap character type of keeper. I can understand his desire to finish in the top league somewhere - He could go on to 40yrs old and he's too good to fade away on our bench. A newly promoted club somewhere would be agreat move for him.
Wish him well no matter where he ends up - he's been good to us and I hope we've been good to him.
For those saying we are back where we started if he goes - disagree our keepers on the conveyor belt have all matured, grown and had another years experience under their belts so we must be a little better off. Gazza will one day make good or the club would not have persevered with him and we'v already covered Cody.
Good luck Borat will never forget the look on your face you threw the bottle back in the crowd - slapped a couple of dozen little gobshites back into their cages - all the phony indignation from the idiots who thought you might not stand up for yourself - priceless.
Well said, also I think RKs dealing with the situation is good he has immediately made the situation clear and it may well be we have them both if he is not sold in this window.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: If e were only five years younger I doubt we'd have felt the need to buy Forster. Make no mistake (and I've seen some truly great keepers with Saints over the years) Borat is up there with the best of them. A true madcap character type of keeper. I can understand his desire to finish in the top league somewhere - He could go on to 40yrs old and he's too good to fade away on our bench. A newly promoted club somewhere would be agreat move for him. Wish him well no matter where he ends up - he's been good to us and I hope we've been good to him. For those saying we are back where we started if he goes - disagree our keepers on the conveyor belt have all matured, grown and had another years experience under their belts so we must be a little better off. Gazza will one day make good or the club would not have persevered with him and we'v already covered Cody. Good luck Borat will never forget the look on your face you threw the bottle back in the crowd - slapped a couple of dozen little gobshites back into their cages - all the phony indignation from the idiots who thought you might not stand up for yourself - priceless.[/p][/quote]Well said, also I think RKs dealing with the situation is good he has immediately made the situation clear and it may well be we have them both if he is not sold in this window. fascia123
  • Score: 10

8:00am Fri 22 Aug 14

nickw4 says...

Will never forget the penalty save against Norwich and the save from Gerrard's free kick last year at Anfield! All the best Artur, once a saint always a saint (unless you're a money grabber who goes to Liverpool or United or Arsenal)!
Will never forget the penalty save against Norwich and the save from Gerrard's free kick last year at Anfield! All the best Artur, once a saint always a saint (unless you're a money grabber who goes to Liverpool or United or Arsenal)! nickw4
  • Score: 9

8:13am Fri 22 Aug 14

lesham says...

I thought that at long last we were going to have 2 top keepers.So disappointing.Would have hoped that Artur would have shown more bottle and fought for his place at least till the next transfer window.
I thought that at long last we were going to have 2 top keepers.So disappointing.Would have hoped that Artur would have shown more bottle and fought for his place at least till the next transfer window. lesham
  • Score: 8

8:16am Fri 22 Aug 14

CJMatley says...

Arthur is a great keeper.
Mystified by the £10M signing of Frazer.
Fear Frazer lacks Arthur's agility,confidence and ability to stop low shots.
At Celtic goalkeepers are part timers...spend most of their time watching the game... collect medals etc
Arthur is a great keeper. Mystified by the £10M signing of Frazer. Fear Frazer lacks Arthur's agility,confidence and ability to stop low shots. At Celtic goalkeepers are part timers...spend most of their time watching the game... collect medals etc CJMatley
  • Score: -6

8:23am Fri 22 Aug 14

tinas says...

What to do now with the vodka and charlie?
What to do now with the vodka and charlie? tinas
  • Score: 4

8:24am Fri 22 Aug 14

Sainty saint saint says...

Velleity wrote:
We'll be back in the situation we were in last year. Forster gets injured and we're back to Gazza or Kelvin.

The problem is, who could we sign who is good and who wants to sit on the bench waiting for Fraser to hurt himself? Always difficult to sign good back-up keepers for that reason.

And for the inevitable comment about how we shouldn't have put Boruc into number two position until he lost the place on merit (which I happen to agree with if it weren't for the following problem) the problem there is that we well might not have had Forster prepared to sign under those conditions. And no, I don't know how you solve the problem of getting a good backup keeper who is prepared to wait.
I think the problem is how RK dealt with it publicly. I'd be hacked off if my manager had come out and said, basically, the FF is no. 1 for sure, no arguments.

To me it's the first real error Ron has made. If he'd said "We've brought FF in to fight for the number one jersey based on training performances" then even if he had no real intention of playing Boruc it would probably not have upset Boruc as much as it has.

Boruc is a big ego with a lot of pride, and you have to know how to manage those types of players a bit more gently, even if you don't really mean it!
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: We'll be back in the situation we were in last year. Forster gets injured and we're back to Gazza or Kelvin. The problem is, who could we sign who is good and who wants to sit on the bench waiting for Fraser to hurt himself? Always difficult to sign good back-up keepers for that reason. And for the inevitable comment about how we shouldn't have put Boruc into number two position until he lost the place on merit (which I happen to agree with if it weren't for the following problem) the problem there is that we well might not have had Forster prepared to sign under those conditions. And no, I don't know how you solve the problem of getting a good backup keeper who is prepared to wait.[/p][/quote]I think the problem is how RK dealt with it publicly. I'd be hacked off if my manager had come out and said, basically, the FF is no. 1 for sure, no arguments. To me it's the first real error Ron has made. If he'd said "We've brought FF in to fight for the number one jersey based on training performances" then even if he had no real intention of playing Boruc it would probably not have upset Boruc as much as it has. Boruc is a big ego with a lot of pride, and you have to know how to manage those types of players a bit more gently, even if you don't really mean it! Sainty saint saint
  • Score: 0

8:26am Fri 22 Aug 14

Outside of the Box says...

CJMatley wrote:
Arthur is a great keeper.
Mystified by the £10M signing of Frazer.
Fear Frazer lacks Arthur's agility,confidence and ability to stop low shots.
At Celtic goalkeepers are part timers...spend most of their time watching the game... collect medals etc
Would that be the same Celtic that The Holy Goalie played for?
[quote][p][bold]CJMatley[/bold] wrote: Arthur is a great keeper. Mystified by the £10M signing of Frazer. Fear Frazer lacks Arthur's agility,confidence and ability to stop low shots. At Celtic goalkeepers are part timers...spend most of their time watching the game... collect medals etc[/p][/quote]Would that be the same Celtic that The Holy Goalie played for? Outside of the Box
  • Score: 11

8:34am Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Outside of the Box wrote:
CJMatley wrote:
Arthur is a great keeper.
Mystified by the £10M signing of Frazer.
Fear Frazer lacks Arthur's agility,confidence and ability to stop low shots.
At Celtic goalkeepers are part timers...spend most of their time watching the game... collect medals etc
Would that be the same Celtic that The Holy Goalie played for?
That's funny
[quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CJMatley[/bold] wrote: Arthur is a great keeper. Mystified by the £10M signing of Frazer. Fear Frazer lacks Arthur's agility,confidence and ability to stop low shots. At Celtic goalkeepers are part timers...spend most of their time watching the game... collect medals etc[/p][/quote]Would that be the same Celtic that The Holy Goalie played for?[/p][/quote]That's funny fascia123
  • Score: 4

8:39am Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Did anyone watch the clip of FF saves that was shown on Sky recently and the same thing came up about Celtic goalies not having much to do, the pundit put them straight by saying that would show him to be an even better keeper in that his powers of concentration must be superb, some of the saves were against Barcelona.
Did anyone watch the clip of FF saves that was shown on Sky recently and the same thing came up about Celtic goalies not having much to do, the pundit put them straight by saying that would show him to be an even better keeper in that his powers of concentration must be superb, some of the saves were against Barcelona. fascia123
  • Score: 10

8:41am Fri 22 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
Velleity wrote:
We'll be back in the situation we were in last year. Forster gets injured and we're back to Gazza or Kelvin.

The problem is, who could we sign who is good and who wants to sit on the bench waiting for Fraser to hurt himself? Always difficult to sign good back-up keepers for that reason.

And for the inevitable comment about how we shouldn't have put Boruc into number two position until he lost the place on merit (which I happen to agree with if it weren't for the following problem) the problem there is that we well might not have had Forster prepared to sign under those conditions. And no, I don't know how you solve the problem of getting a good backup keeper who is prepared to wait.
I think the problem is how RK dealt with it publicly. I'd be hacked off if my manager had come out and said, basically, the FF is no. 1 for sure, no arguments.

To me it's the first real error Ron has made. If he'd said "We've brought FF in to fight for the number one jersey based on training performances" then even if he had no real intention of playing Boruc it would probably not have upset Boruc as much as it has.

Boruc is a big ego with a lot of pride, and you have to know how to manage those types of players a bit more gently, even if you don't really mean it!
Yep. Boruc has done nothing to lose his place and shouldn't have done. In a squad of 25 there has to be players pressing every member of the first 11 and not just 'adequate cover'. Until we learn that we will win fack all.
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: We'll be back in the situation we were in last year. Forster gets injured and we're back to Gazza or Kelvin. The problem is, who could we sign who is good and who wants to sit on the bench waiting for Fraser to hurt himself? Always difficult to sign good back-up keepers for that reason. And for the inevitable comment about how we shouldn't have put Boruc into number two position until he lost the place on merit (which I happen to agree with if it weren't for the following problem) the problem there is that we well might not have had Forster prepared to sign under those conditions. And no, I don't know how you solve the problem of getting a good backup keeper who is prepared to wait.[/p][/quote]I think the problem is how RK dealt with it publicly. I'd be hacked off if my manager had come out and said, basically, the FF is no. 1 for sure, no arguments. To me it's the first real error Ron has made. If he'd said "We've brought FF in to fight for the number one jersey based on training performances" then even if he had no real intention of playing Boruc it would probably not have upset Boruc as much as it has. Boruc is a big ego with a lot of pride, and you have to know how to manage those types of players a bit more gently, even if you don't really mean it![/p][/quote]Yep. Boruc has done nothing to lose his place and shouldn't have done. In a squad of 25 there has to be players pressing every member of the first 11 and not just 'adequate cover'. Until we learn that we will win fack all. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 2

8:49am Fri 22 Aug 14

jls217 says...

CJMatley wrote:
Arthur is a great keeper.
Mystified by the £10M signing of Frazer.
Fear Frazer lacks Arthur's agility,confidence and ability to stop low shots.
At Celtic goalkeepers are part timers...spend most of their time watching the game... collect medals etc
Borat is 34, FF is not.

I think you'll find we got Borat from a certain Scottish club.

Borat is a great keeper but we need competition in all positions - his choice to leave or to fight for his place.
[quote][p][bold]CJMatley[/bold] wrote: Arthur is a great keeper. Mystified by the £10M signing of Frazer. Fear Frazer lacks Arthur's agility,confidence and ability to stop low shots. At Celtic goalkeepers are part timers...spend most of their time watching the game... collect medals etc[/p][/quote]Borat is 34, FF is not. I think you'll find we got Borat from a certain Scottish club. Borat is a great keeper but we need competition in all positions - his choice to leave or to fight for his place. jls217
  • Score: 12

8:50am Fri 22 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

Someone will be getting a top drawer keeper for very little money.
Don't know how Forster was immediately No1, probably the price tag.
Back to square one with a very mediocre keeper as back up to a decent one. (before anyone shouts at me, remember the goals against stats when Boruc was out and Gazza in).

Has good reason to be angry and our loss will be someone else's gain.
Someone will be getting a top drawer keeper for very little money. Don't know how Forster was immediately No1, probably the price tag. Back to square one with a very mediocre keeper as back up to a decent one. (before anyone shouts at me, remember the goals against stats when Boruc was out and Gazza in). Has good reason to be angry and our loss will be someone else's gain. costa gaz
  • Score: 0

8:51am Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
Velleity wrote:
We'll be back in the situation we were in last year. Forster gets injured and we're back to Gazza or Kelvin.

The problem is, who could we sign who is good and who wants to sit on the bench waiting for Fraser to hurt himself? Always difficult to sign good back-up keepers for that reason.

And for the inevitable comment about how we shouldn't have put Boruc into number two position until he lost the place on merit (which I happen to agree with if it weren't for the following problem) the problem there is that we well might not have had Forster prepared to sign under those conditions. And no, I don't know how you solve the problem of getting a good backup keeper who is prepared to wait.
I think the problem is how RK dealt with it publicly. I'd be hacked off if my manager had come out and said, basically, the FF is no. 1 for sure, no arguments.

To me it's the first real error Ron has made. If he'd said "We've brought FF in to fight for the number one jersey based on training performances" then even if he had no real intention of playing Boruc it would probably not have upset Boruc as much as it has.

Boruc is a big ego with a lot of pride, and you have to know how to manage those types of players a bit more gently, even if you don't really mean it!
Yep. Boruc has done nothing to lose his place and shouldn't have done. In a squad of 25 there has to be players pressing every member of the first 11 and not just 'adequate cover'. Until we learn that we will win fack all.
Do we know AB was definitely staying or was he another one of the mass exodus brigade, has he a verbal agreement?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: We'll be back in the situation we were in last year. Forster gets injured and we're back to Gazza or Kelvin. The problem is, who could we sign who is good and who wants to sit on the bench waiting for Fraser to hurt himself? Always difficult to sign good back-up keepers for that reason. And for the inevitable comment about how we shouldn't have put Boruc into number two position until he lost the place on merit (which I happen to agree with if it weren't for the following problem) the problem there is that we well might not have had Forster prepared to sign under those conditions. And no, I don't know how you solve the problem of getting a good backup keeper who is prepared to wait.[/p][/quote]I think the problem is how RK dealt with it publicly. I'd be hacked off if my manager had come out and said, basically, the FF is no. 1 for sure, no arguments. To me it's the first real error Ron has made. If he'd said "We've brought FF in to fight for the number one jersey based on training performances" then even if he had no real intention of playing Boruc it would probably not have upset Boruc as much as it has. Boruc is a big ego with a lot of pride, and you have to know how to manage those types of players a bit more gently, even if you don't really mean it![/p][/quote]Yep. Boruc has done nothing to lose his place and shouldn't have done. In a squad of 25 there has to be players pressing every member of the first 11 and not just 'adequate cover'. Until we learn that we will win fack all.[/p][/quote]Do we know AB was definitely staying or was he another one of the mass exodus brigade, has he a verbal agreement? fascia123
  • Score: 0

8:53am Fri 22 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

jls217 wrote:
CJMatley wrote:
Arthur is a great keeper.
Mystified by the £10M signing of Frazer.
Fear Frazer lacks Arthur's agility,confidence and ability to stop low shots.
At Celtic goalkeepers are part timers...spend most of their time watching the game... collect medals etc
Borat is 34, FF is not.

I think you'll find we got Borat from a certain Scottish club.

Borat is a great keeper but we need competition in all positions - his choice to leave or to fight for his place.
We never got him from a certain scottish club, he was releasedfrom Fiorentina .
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CJMatley[/bold] wrote: Arthur is a great keeper. Mystified by the £10M signing of Frazer. Fear Frazer lacks Arthur's agility,confidence and ability to stop low shots. At Celtic goalkeepers are part timers...spend most of their time watching the game... collect medals etc[/p][/quote]Borat is 34, FF is not. I think you'll find we got Borat from a certain Scottish club. Borat is a great keeper but we need competition in all positions - his choice to leave or to fight for his place.[/p][/quote]We never got him from a certain scottish club, he was releasedfrom Fiorentina . costa gaz
  • Score: 4

9:05am Fri 22 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

jls217 wrote:
If e were only five years younger I doubt we'd have felt the need to buy Forster. Make no mistake (and I've seen some truly great keepers with Saints over the years) Borat is up there with the best of them. A true madcap character type of keeper. I can understand his desire to finish in the top league somewhere - He could go on to 40yrs old and he's too good to fade away on our bench. A newly promoted club somewhere would be agreat move for him.
Wish him well no matter where he ends up - he's been good to us and I hope we've been good to him.
For those saying we are back where we started if he goes - disagree our keepers on the conveyor belt have all matured, grown and had another years experience under their belts so we must be a little better off. Gazza will one day make good or the club would not have persevered with him and we'v already covered Cody.
Good luck Borat will never forget the look on your face you threw the bottle back in the crowd - slapped a couple of dozen little gobshites back into their cages - all the phony indignation from the idiots who thought you might not stand up for yourself - priceless.
Spot on - Real world is simple that Saints can't do a Chelski or Man City and have that sort of quality on the bench ............

It also answers a few of the neggies who couldn't understand why we allowed certain players to leave. Whether we like it or not there is no loyalty by players or Clubs and if you get offered a big pay packet but stay loyal to the club in the next transfer window a new player may well come in and your sat on the bench .............. A sad truth of the modern game !

I for one thought AB was a star and great fun with the Northam End and will be sadly missed but we now have one of the top English keepers in the Country linked up with the England Keeping coach , a great combination !
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: If e were only five years younger I doubt we'd have felt the need to buy Forster. Make no mistake (and I've seen some truly great keepers with Saints over the years) Borat is up there with the best of them. A true madcap character type of keeper. I can understand his desire to finish in the top league somewhere - He could go on to 40yrs old and he's too good to fade away on our bench. A newly promoted club somewhere would be agreat move for him. Wish him well no matter where he ends up - he's been good to us and I hope we've been good to him. For those saying we are back where we started if he goes - disagree our keepers on the conveyor belt have all matured, grown and had another years experience under their belts so we must be a little better off. Gazza will one day make good or the club would not have persevered with him and we'v already covered Cody. Good luck Borat will never forget the look on your face you threw the bottle back in the crowd - slapped a couple of dozen little gobshites back into their cages - all the phony indignation from the idiots who thought you might not stand up for yourself - priceless.[/p][/quote]Spot on - Real world is simple that Saints can't do a Chelski or Man City and have that sort of quality on the bench ............ It also answers a few of the neggies who couldn't understand why we allowed certain players to leave. Whether we like it or not there is no loyalty by players or Clubs and if you get offered a big pay packet but stay loyal to the club in the next transfer window a new player may well come in and your sat on the bench .............. A sad truth of the modern game ! I for one thought AB was a star and great fun with the Northam End and will be sadly missed but we now have one of the top English keepers in the Country linked up with the England Keeping coach , a great combination ! Buddy SFC
  • Score: 10

9:11am Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
Absolutely gutted, OK he made 1 huge gaff. ( was Sunderland really his fault?) . " dodgy kicking" is bull. He was obviously told to do that.

Best Keeper we have had for a good while, and we got him on a free.

How many of last seasons players will end up leaving. The situation with Cork doesn't look great if we are looking to get that Uraguay OAP in for 5m plus unlimited travel on the number 7 bus. No wonder Morgan is p1ssed off.
Hull sell shane Long, buy Jordan Rhodes and are off down the offie with the proffit.

It's not all negative though we ALMOST got a point against a team we beat last year who has lost the leagues best striker.
Facts facts who needs them, Jordan Rhodes has not been sold unless something has changed in last 10 minutes, I believe the offers so far stand at 10 million from. Hull and that is likely to be knocked back, profit?
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: Absolutely gutted, OK he made 1 huge gaff. ( was Sunderland really his fault?) . " dodgy kicking" is bull. He was obviously told to do that. Best Keeper we have had for a good while, and we got him on a free. How many of last seasons players will end up leaving. The situation with Cork doesn't look great if we are looking to get that Uraguay OAP in for 5m plus unlimited travel on the number 7 bus. No wonder Morgan is p1ssed off. Hull sell shane Long, buy Jordan Rhodes and are off down the offie with the proffit. It's not all negative though we ALMOST got a point against a team we beat last year who has lost the leagues best striker.[/p][/quote]Facts facts who needs them, Jordan Rhodes has not been sold unless something has changed in last 10 minutes, I believe the offers so far stand at 10 million from. Hull and that is likely to be knocked back, profit? fascia123
  • Score: 4

9:11am Fri 22 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Watching Forster's first Saints interview,he seemed to think he was already pencilled in as a starter at Anfield from what he said.
Watching Forster's first Saints interview,he seemed to think he was already pencilled in as a starter at Anfield from what he said. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 3

9:18am Fri 22 Aug 14

Lehman Bros Banker says...

Inevitable as sure as night follows day. Far too good a keeper to be a benchwarmer could genuinely be first choice at half the Premier clubs. Even if he goes to another Premier club as understudy he will reap the rewards of a far bigger pay cheque than he currently receives from us. It's the money train that all the others who left in the summer are on.
The trouble is if we are serious about progressing in cup competitions we won't do so relying on Kelvin or Gazza, one is over the hill and the other is simply unable to climb it. Hopefully Koeman realises that so if he is prepared to let Boruc go it must be on the basis he signs another keeper before the end of the window.
Inevitable as sure as night follows day. Far too good a keeper to be a benchwarmer could genuinely be first choice at half the Premier clubs. Even if he goes to another Premier club as understudy he will reap the rewards of a far bigger pay cheque than he currently receives from us. It's the money train that all the others who left in the summer are on. The trouble is if we are serious about progressing in cup competitions we won't do so relying on Kelvin or Gazza, one is over the hill and the other is simply unable to climb it. Hopefully Koeman realises that so if he is prepared to let Boruc go it must be on the basis he signs another keeper before the end of the window. Lehman Bros Banker
  • Score: 6

9:30am Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Velleity wrote:
We'll be back in the situation we were in last year. Forster gets injured and we're back to Gazza or Kelvin.

The problem is, who could we sign who is good and who wants to sit on the bench waiting for Fraser to hurt himself? Always difficult to sign good back-up keepers for that reason.

And for the inevitable comment about how we shouldn't have put Boruc into number two position until he lost the place on merit (which I happen to agree with if it weren't for the following problem) the problem there is that we well might not have had Forster prepared to sign under those conditions. And no, I don't know how you solve the problem of getting a good backup keeper who is prepared to wait.
Perhaps it will be the disgruntled keeper who AB replaces at whatever club he goes to, perhaps he will chuck his toys out and then that club will be in the same position.

That's football.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: We'll be back in the situation we were in last year. Forster gets injured and we're back to Gazza or Kelvin. The problem is, who could we sign who is good and who wants to sit on the bench waiting for Fraser to hurt himself? Always difficult to sign good back-up keepers for that reason. And for the inevitable comment about how we shouldn't have put Boruc into number two position until he lost the place on merit (which I happen to agree with if it weren't for the following problem) the problem there is that we well might not have had Forster prepared to sign under those conditions. And no, I don't know how you solve the problem of getting a good backup keeper who is prepared to wait.[/p][/quote]Perhaps it will be the disgruntled keeper who AB replaces at whatever club he goes to, perhaps he will chuck his toys out and then that club will be in the same position. That's football. fascia123
  • Score: 2

9:34am Fri 22 Aug 14

warrens 76 says...

Buddy SFC wrote:
jls217 wrote:
If e were only five years younger I doubt we'd have felt the need to buy Forster. Make no mistake (and I've seen some truly great keepers with Saints over the years) Borat is up there with the best of them. A true madcap character type of keeper. I can understand his desire to finish in the top league somewhere - He could go on to 40yrs old and he's too good to fade away on our bench. A newly promoted club somewhere would be agreat move for him.
Wish him well no matter where he ends up - he's been good to us and I hope we've been good to him.
For those saying we are back where we started if he goes - disagree our keepers on the conveyor belt have all matured, grown and had another years experience under their belts so we must be a little better off. Gazza will one day make good or the club would not have persevered with him and we'v already covered Cody.
Good luck Borat will never forget the look on your face you threw the bottle back in the crowd - slapped a couple of dozen little gobshites back into their cages - all the phony indignation from the idiots who thought you might not stand up for yourself - priceless.
Spot on - Real world is simple that Saints can't do a Chelski or Man City and have that sort of quality on the bench ............

It also answers a few of the neggies who couldn't understand why we allowed certain players to leave. Whether we like it or not there is no loyalty by players or Clubs and if you get offered a big pay packet but stay loyal to the club in the next transfer window a new player may well come in and your sat on the bench .............. A sad truth of the modern game !

I for one thought AB was a star and great fun with the Northam End and will be sadly missed but we now have one of the top English keepers in the Country linked up with the England Keeping coach , a great combination !
I love the use of the word 'neggies' for the fans who questioned the boards actions, good god only at Southampton can those who want serious success for the club be the neggies and those who were content with the club being ripped apart are the happy clappers…
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: If e were only five years younger I doubt we'd have felt the need to buy Forster. Make no mistake (and I've seen some truly great keepers with Saints over the years) Borat is up there with the best of them. A true madcap character type of keeper. I can understand his desire to finish in the top league somewhere - He could go on to 40yrs old and he's too good to fade away on our bench. A newly promoted club somewhere would be agreat move for him. Wish him well no matter where he ends up - he's been good to us and I hope we've been good to him. For those saying we are back where we started if he goes - disagree our keepers on the conveyor belt have all matured, grown and had another years experience under their belts so we must be a little better off. Gazza will one day make good or the club would not have persevered with him and we'v already covered Cody. Good luck Borat will never forget the look on your face you threw the bottle back in the crowd - slapped a couple of dozen little gobshites back into their cages - all the phony indignation from the idiots who thought you might not stand up for yourself - priceless.[/p][/quote]Spot on - Real world is simple that Saints can't do a Chelski or Man City and have that sort of quality on the bench ............ It also answers a few of the neggies who couldn't understand why we allowed certain players to leave. Whether we like it or not there is no loyalty by players or Clubs and if you get offered a big pay packet but stay loyal to the club in the next transfer window a new player may well come in and your sat on the bench .............. A sad truth of the modern game ! I for one thought AB was a star and great fun with the Northam End and will be sadly missed but we now have one of the top English keepers in the Country linked up with the England Keeping coach , a great combination ![/p][/quote]I love the use of the word 'neggies' for the fans who questioned the boards actions, good god only at Southampton can those who want serious success for the club be the neggies and those who were content with the club being ripped apart are the happy clappers… warrens 76
  • Score: 4

9:42am Fri 22 Aug 14

We all love gordon watson says...

Shame that we still lack the status of having two top keepers competing for the #1 spot. Thought Boruc would fight for his place, to be fair it shpuld have been the other way round, it was borucs spot last i looked
Shame that we still lack the status of having two top keepers competing for the #1 spot. Thought Boruc would fight for his place, to be fair it shpuld have been the other way round, it was borucs spot last i looked We all love gordon watson
  • Score: 4

9:44am Fri 22 Aug 14

Folkestone Saint says...

Best soloution is to loan him out with an immediate call back clause, just not to the spuds as they won't sell to us
Best soloution is to loan him out with an immediate call back clause, just not to the spuds as they won't sell to us Folkestone Saint
  • Score: 5

9:46am Fri 22 Aug 14

Brite Spark says...

Forster made no attempt to save Liverpool's first goal, he was very casual, Boruc would have made himself big or made an attempt at least to get a hand to the feeble shot.
Forster made no attempt to save Liverpool's first goal, he was very casual, Boruc would have made himself big or made an attempt at least to get a hand to the feeble shot. Brite Spark
  • Score: 7

9:47am Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
jls217 wrote:
If e were only five years younger I doubt we'd have felt the need to buy Forster. Make no mistake (and I've seen some truly great keepers with Saints over the years) Borat is up there with the best of them. A true madcap character type of keeper. I can understand his desire to finish in the top league somewhere - He could go on to 40yrs old and he's too good to fade away on our bench. A newly promoted club somewhere would be agreat move for him.
Wish him well no matter where he ends up - he's been good to us and I hope we've been good to him.
For those saying we are back where we started if he goes - disagree our keepers on the conveyor belt have all matured, grown and had another years experience under their belts so we must be a little better off. Gazza will one day make good or the club would not have persevered with him and we'v already covered Cody.
Good luck Borat will never forget the look on your face you threw the bottle back in the crowd - slapped a couple of dozen little gobshites back into their cages - all the phony indignation from the idiots who thought you might not stand up for yourself - priceless.
Spot on - Real world is simple that Saints can't do a Chelski or Man City and have that sort of quality on the bench ............

It also answers a few of the neggies who couldn't understand why we allowed certain players to leave. Whether we like it or not there is no loyalty by players or Clubs and if you get offered a big pay packet but stay loyal to the club in the next transfer window a new player may well come in and your sat on the bench .............. A sad truth of the modern game !

I for one thought AB was a star and great fun with the Northam End and will be sadly missed but we now have one of the top English keepers in the Country linked up with the England Keeping coach , a great combination !
I love the use of the word 'neggies' for the fans who questioned the boards actions, good god only at Southampton can those who want serious success for the club be the neggies and those who were content with the club being ripped apart are the happy clappers…
I know we all want the best for saints, but do you think their are those that have a more realistic view of what can be achieved with a club our size and following ?

Another thing to take into consideration is those that hold the purse strings, I read an interesting article online about the Leibherrs, it suggests the family have build the fortune while having a distinct dislike for borrowing money and having debt and suggested that maybe KL has this same family philosophy.

It would explain a lot of things, surely we don't want to risk the progress that has been made since the Leibherrs put their money in and there would be massive risks in the investment needed to have us competing to the levels that some of our fans would like.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: If e were only five years younger I doubt we'd have felt the need to buy Forster. Make no mistake (and I've seen some truly great keepers with Saints over the years) Borat is up there with the best of them. A true madcap character type of keeper. I can understand his desire to finish in the top league somewhere - He could go on to 40yrs old and he's too good to fade away on our bench. A newly promoted club somewhere would be agreat move for him. Wish him well no matter where he ends up - he's been good to us and I hope we've been good to him. For those saying we are back where we started if he goes - disagree our keepers on the conveyor belt have all matured, grown and had another years experience under their belts so we must be a little better off. Gazza will one day make good or the club would not have persevered with him and we'v already covered Cody. Good luck Borat will never forget the look on your face you threw the bottle back in the crowd - slapped a couple of dozen little gobshites back into their cages - all the phony indignation from the idiots who thought you might not stand up for yourself - priceless.[/p][/quote]Spot on - Real world is simple that Saints can't do a Chelski or Man City and have that sort of quality on the bench ............ It also answers a few of the neggies who couldn't understand why we allowed certain players to leave. Whether we like it or not there is no loyalty by players or Clubs and if you get offered a big pay packet but stay loyal to the club in the next transfer window a new player may well come in and your sat on the bench .............. A sad truth of the modern game ! I for one thought AB was a star and great fun with the Northam End and will be sadly missed but we now have one of the top English keepers in the Country linked up with the England Keeping coach , a great combination ![/p][/quote]I love the use of the word 'neggies' for the fans who questioned the boards actions, good god only at Southampton can those who want serious success for the club be the neggies and those who were content with the club being ripped apart are the happy clappers…[/p][/quote]I know we all want the best for saints, but do you think their are those that have a more realistic view of what can be achieved with a club our size and following ? Another thing to take into consideration is those that hold the purse strings, I read an interesting article online about the Leibherrs, it suggests the family have build the fortune while having a distinct dislike for borrowing money and having debt and suggested that maybe KL has this same family philosophy. It would explain a lot of things, surely we don't want to risk the progress that has been made since the Leibherrs put their money in and there would be massive risks in the investment needed to have us competing to the levels that some of our fans would like. fascia123
  • Score: 10

9:49am Fri 22 Aug 14

killared says...

mr miyagi wrote:
Surely Artur must know, at the age of 34, he may not get another chance at a Premier League club as number one, and would accept the situation that he would be succeeded by a younger keeper, similar to Friedel when Lloris signed for Spuds.

As mentioned above, this just puts us back into the same situation as last season, with a number one, but no back up. I assume Ronald is not actually that happy with Artur wanting to leave as he states.
You wrong he can still play until he's 40, 42 years old
[quote][p][bold]mr miyagi[/bold] wrote: Surely Artur must know, at the age of 34, he may not get another chance at a Premier League club as number one, and would accept the situation that he would be succeeded by a younger keeper, similar to Friedel when Lloris signed for Spuds. As mentioned above, this just puts us back into the same situation as last season, with a number one, but no back up. I assume Ronald is not actually that happy with Artur wanting to leave as he states.[/p][/quote]You wrong he can still play until he's 40, 42 years old killared
  • Score: 2

9:52am Fri 22 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
jls217 wrote:
If e were only five years younger I doubt we'd have felt the need to buy Forster. Make no mistake (and I've seen some truly great keepers with Saints over the years) Borat is up there with the best of them. A true madcap character type of keeper. I can understand his desire to finish in the top league somewhere - He could go on to 40yrs old and he's too good to fade away on our bench. A newly promoted club somewhere would be agreat move for him.
Wish him well no matter where he ends up - he's been good to us and I hope we've been good to him.
For those saying we are back where we started if he goes - disagree our keepers on the conveyor belt have all matured, grown and had another years experience under their belts so we must be a little better off. Gazza will one day make good or the club would not have persevered with him and we'v already covered Cody.
Good luck Borat will never forget the look on your face you threw the bottle back in the crowd - slapped a couple of dozen little gobshites back into their cages - all the phony indignation from the idiots who thought you might not stand up for yourself - priceless.
Spot on - Real world is simple that Saints can't do a Chelski or Man City and have that sort of quality on the bench ............

It also answers a few of the neggies who couldn't understand why we allowed certain players to leave. Whether we like it or not there is no loyalty by players or Clubs and if you get offered a big pay packet but stay loyal to the club in the next transfer window a new player may well come in and your sat on the bench .............. A sad truth of the modern game !

I for one thought AB was a star and great fun with the Northam End and will be sadly missed but we now have one of the top English keepers in the Country linked up with the England Keeping coach , a great combination !
I love the use of the word 'neggies' for the fans who questioned the boards actions, good god only at Southampton can those who want serious success for the club be the neggies and those who were content with the club being ripped apart are the happy clappers…
Rubbish!
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: If e were only five years younger I doubt we'd have felt the need to buy Forster. Make no mistake (and I've seen some truly great keepers with Saints over the years) Borat is up there with the best of them. A true madcap character type of keeper. I can understand his desire to finish in the top league somewhere - He could go on to 40yrs old and he's too good to fade away on our bench. A newly promoted club somewhere would be agreat move for him. Wish him well no matter where he ends up - he's been good to us and I hope we've been good to him. For those saying we are back where we started if he goes - disagree our keepers on the conveyor belt have all matured, grown and had another years experience under their belts so we must be a little better off. Gazza will one day make good or the club would not have persevered with him and we'v already covered Cody. Good luck Borat will never forget the look on your face you threw the bottle back in the crowd - slapped a couple of dozen little gobshites back into their cages - all the phony indignation from the idiots who thought you might not stand up for yourself - priceless.[/p][/quote]Spot on - Real world is simple that Saints can't do a Chelski or Man City and have that sort of quality on the bench ............ It also answers a few of the neggies who couldn't understand why we allowed certain players to leave. Whether we like it or not there is no loyalty by players or Clubs and if you get offered a big pay packet but stay loyal to the club in the next transfer window a new player may well come in and your sat on the bench .............. A sad truth of the modern game ! I for one thought AB was a star and great fun with the Northam End and will be sadly missed but we now have one of the top English keepers in the Country linked up with the England Keeping coach , a great combination ![/p][/quote]I love the use of the word 'neggies' for the fans who questioned the boards actions, good god only at Southampton can those who want serious success for the club be the neggies and those who were content with the club being ripped apart are the happy clappers…[/p][/quote]Rubbish! Rising_Son
  • Score: -6

9:57am Fri 22 Aug 14

warrens 76 says...

Rising_Son wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
jls217 wrote:
If e were only five years younger I doubt we'd have felt the need to buy Forster. Make no mistake (and I've seen some truly great keepers with Saints over the years) Borat is up there with the best of them. A true madcap character type of keeper. I can understand his desire to finish in the top league somewhere - He could go on to 40yrs old and he's too good to fade away on our bench. A newly promoted club somewhere would be agreat move for him.
Wish him well no matter where he ends up - he's been good to us and I hope we've been good to him.
For those saying we are back where we started if he goes - disagree our keepers on the conveyor belt have all matured, grown and had another years experience under their belts so we must be a little better off. Gazza will one day make good or the club would not have persevered with him and we'v already covered Cody.
Good luck Borat will never forget the look on your face you threw the bottle back in the crowd - slapped a couple of dozen little gobshites back into their cages - all the phony indignation from the idiots who thought you might not stand up for yourself - priceless.
Spot on - Real world is simple that Saints can't do a Chelski or Man City and have that sort of quality on the bench ............

It also answers a few of the neggies who couldn't understand why we allowed certain players to leave. Whether we like it or not there is no loyalty by players or Clubs and if you get offered a big pay packet but stay loyal to the club in the next transfer window a new player may well come in and your sat on the bench .............. A sad truth of the modern game !

I for one thought AB was a star and great fun with the Northam End and will be sadly missed but we now have one of the top English keepers in the Country linked up with the England Keeping coach , a great combination !
I love the use of the word 'neggies' for the fans who questioned the boards actions, good god only at Southampton can those who want serious success for the club be the neggies and those who were content with the club being ripped apart are the happy clappers…
Rubbish!
Why is it rubbish, we were being ripped apart we were rudderless, RALPH WAS ON A MISSING LIST…

Look it may turn out OK but I am not a neggie for disliking what happened and seeing our ambition appear to fail, neither are the others.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: If e were only five years younger I doubt we'd have felt the need to buy Forster. Make no mistake (and I've seen some truly great keepers with Saints over the years) Borat is up there with the best of them. A true madcap character type of keeper. I can understand his desire to finish in the top league somewhere - He could go on to 40yrs old and he's too good to fade away on our bench. A newly promoted club somewhere would be agreat move for him. Wish him well no matter where he ends up - he's been good to us and I hope we've been good to him. For those saying we are back where we started if he goes - disagree our keepers on the conveyor belt have all matured, grown and had another years experience under their belts so we must be a little better off. Gazza will one day make good or the club would not have persevered with him and we'v already covered Cody. Good luck Borat will never forget the look on your face you threw the bottle back in the crowd - slapped a couple of dozen little gobshites back into their cages - all the phony indignation from the idiots who thought you might not stand up for yourself - priceless.[/p][/quote]Spot on - Real world is simple that Saints can't do a Chelski or Man City and have that sort of quality on the bench ............ It also answers a few of the neggies who couldn't understand why we allowed certain players to leave. Whether we like it or not there is no loyalty by players or Clubs and if you get offered a big pay packet but stay loyal to the club in the next transfer window a new player may well come in and your sat on the bench .............. A sad truth of the modern game ! I for one thought AB was a star and great fun with the Northam End and will be sadly missed but we now have one of the top English keepers in the Country linked up with the England Keeping coach , a great combination ![/p][/quote]I love the use of the word 'neggies' for the fans who questioned the boards actions, good god only at Southampton can those who want serious success for the club be the neggies and those who were content with the club being ripped apart are the happy clappers…[/p][/quote]Rubbish![/p][/quote]Why is it rubbish, we were being ripped apart we were rudderless, RALPH WAS ON A MISSING LIST… Look it may turn out OK but I am not a neggie for disliking what happened and seeing our ambition appear to fail, neither are the others. warrens 76
  • Score: 2

10:01am Fri 22 Aug 14

SaintPC says...

It makes me laugh how some fans are so blinkered that they cant see the situation for what it is. It really is no more complicated than RoKo explained. Fraser Forster has been brought in as RoKo's main keeper, but he wanted Boruc to stay and fight for his place. Imagine if Fraser had a month of bad performances, Boruc would be back in the team and then it would be his position to lose again. It has nothing to do with man-management, or as some fans claimed "just tell him he will be rotated and then just dont play him".

They have obviously had an open and honest discussion, Boruc wants to know he is first choice (he isnt) so then he says on that basis he needs to move somewhere else where he is first choice - firstly to play, and secondly to try to keep his Poland shirt.

There is nothing the club can do other than if noone opts to buy him for an appropriate amount, we get to keep him until January at least.

Not every keeper is a Kelvin Davis, a great clubman who is keen to play but happy to be second choice.
It makes me laugh how some fans are so blinkered that they cant see the situation for what it is. It really is no more complicated than RoKo explained. Fraser Forster has been brought in as RoKo's main keeper, but he wanted Boruc to stay and fight for his place. Imagine if Fraser had a month of bad performances, Boruc would be back in the team and then it would be his position to lose again. It has nothing to do with man-management, or as some fans claimed "just tell him he will be rotated and then just dont play him". They have obviously had an open and honest discussion, Boruc wants to know he is first choice (he isnt) so then he says on that basis he needs to move somewhere else where he is first choice - firstly to play, and secondly to try to keep his Poland shirt. There is nothing the club can do other than if noone opts to buy him for an appropriate amount, we get to keep him until January at least. Not every keeper is a Kelvin Davis, a great clubman who is keen to play but happy to be second choice. SaintPC
  • Score: 3

10:09am Fri 22 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
jls217 wrote:
If e were only five years younger I doubt we'd have felt the need to buy Forster. Make no mistake (and I've seen some truly great keepers with Saints over the years) Borat is up there with the best of them. A true madcap character type of keeper. I can understand his desire to finish in the top league somewhere - He could go on to 40yrs old and he's too good to fade away on our bench. A newly promoted club somewhere would be agreat move for him.
Wish him well no matter where he ends up - he's been good to us and I hope we've been good to him.
For those saying we are back where we started if he goes - disagree our keepers on the conveyor belt have all matured, grown and had another years experience under their belts so we must be a little better off. Gazza will one day make good or the club would not have persevered with him and we'v already covered Cody.
Good luck Borat will never forget the look on your face you threw the bottle back in the crowd - slapped a couple of dozen little gobshites back into their cages - all the phony indignation from the idiots who thought you might not stand up for yourself - priceless.
Spot on - Real world is simple that Saints can't do a Chelski or Man City and have that sort of quality on the bench ............

It also answers a few of the neggies who couldn't understand why we allowed certain players to leave. Whether we like it or not there is no loyalty by players or Clubs and if you get offered a big pay packet but stay loyal to the club in the next transfer window a new player may well come in and your sat on the bench .............. A sad truth of the modern game !

I for one thought AB was a star and great fun with the Northam End and will be sadly missed but we now have one of the top English keepers in the Country linked up with the England Keeping coach , a great combination !
I love the use of the word 'neggies' for the fans who questioned the boards actions, good god only at Southampton can those who want serious success for the club be the neggies and those who were content with the club being ripped apart are the happy clappers…
Rubbish!
Why is it rubbish, we were being ripped apart we were rudderless, RALPH WAS ON A MISSING LIST…

Look it may turn out OK but I am not a neggie for disliking what happened and seeing our ambition appear to fail, neither are the others.
It's rubbish because the biggest difference between 'true' neggies and 'true' happy clappers is how optimistic we are. I don't believe any of us liked what happened this summer but the happy clappers (optimists) choose to believe that things are alright and that we still have ambition (maybe a bit different from before but still ambition). Neggies, on the other hand, have chosen to believe that things are not alright and that we have lost our ambition.

The truth is we don't know everything about what has happened. What to believe is therefore our choice.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: If e were only five years younger I doubt we'd have felt the need to buy Forster. Make no mistake (and I've seen some truly great keepers with Saints over the years) Borat is up there with the best of them. A true madcap character type of keeper. I can understand his desire to finish in the top league somewhere - He could go on to 40yrs old and he's too good to fade away on our bench. A newly promoted club somewhere would be agreat move for him. Wish him well no matter where he ends up - he's been good to us and I hope we've been good to him. For those saying we are back where we started if he goes - disagree our keepers on the conveyor belt have all matured, grown and had another years experience under their belts so we must be a little better off. Gazza will one day make good or the club would not have persevered with him and we'v already covered Cody. Good luck Borat will never forget the look on your face you threw the bottle back in the crowd - slapped a couple of dozen little gobshites back into their cages - all the phony indignation from the idiots who thought you might not stand up for yourself - priceless.[/p][/quote]Spot on - Real world is simple that Saints can't do a Chelski or Man City and have that sort of quality on the bench ............ It also answers a few of the neggies who couldn't understand why we allowed certain players to leave. Whether we like it or not there is no loyalty by players or Clubs and if you get offered a big pay packet but stay loyal to the club in the next transfer window a new player may well come in and your sat on the bench .............. A sad truth of the modern game ! I for one thought AB was a star and great fun with the Northam End and will be sadly missed but we now have one of the top English keepers in the Country linked up with the England Keeping coach , a great combination ![/p][/quote]I love the use of the word 'neggies' for the fans who questioned the boards actions, good god only at Southampton can those who want serious success for the club be the neggies and those who were content with the club being ripped apart are the happy clappers…[/p][/quote]Rubbish![/p][/quote]Why is it rubbish, we were being ripped apart we were rudderless, RALPH WAS ON A MISSING LIST… Look it may turn out OK but I am not a neggie for disliking what happened and seeing our ambition appear to fail, neither are the others.[/p][/quote]It's rubbish because the biggest difference between 'true' neggies and 'true' happy clappers is how optimistic we are. I don't believe any of us liked what happened this summer but the happy clappers (optimists) choose to believe that things are alright and that we still have ambition (maybe a bit different from before but still ambition). Neggies, on the other hand, have chosen to believe that things are not alright and that we have lost our ambition. The truth is we don't know everything about what has happened. What to believe is therefore our choice. Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

10:18am Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
jls217 wrote:
If e were only five years younger I doubt we'd have felt the need to buy Forster. Make no mistake (and I've seen some truly great keepers with Saints over the years) Borat is up there with the best of them. A true madcap character type of keeper. I can understand his desire to finish in the top league somewhere - He could go on to 40yrs old and he's too good to fade away on our bench. A newly promoted club somewhere would be agreat move for him.
Wish him well no matter where he ends up - he's been good to us and I hope we've been good to him.
For those saying we are back where we started if he goes - disagree our keepers on the conveyor belt have all matured, grown and had another years experience under their belts so we must be a little better off. Gazza will one day make good or the club would not have persevered with him and we'v already covered Cody.
Good luck Borat will never forget the look on your face you threw the bottle back in the crowd - slapped a couple of dozen little gobshites back into their cages - all the phony indignation from the idiots who thought you might not stand up for yourself - priceless.
Spot on - Real world is simple that Saints can't do a Chelski or Man City and have that sort of quality on the bench ............

It also answers a few of the neggies who couldn't understand why we allowed certain players to leave. Whether we like it or not there is no loyalty by players or Clubs and if you get offered a big pay packet but stay loyal to the club in the next transfer window a new player may well come in and your sat on the bench .............. A sad truth of the modern game !

I for one thought AB was a star and great fun with the Northam End and will be sadly missed but we now have one of the top English keepers in the Country linked up with the England Keeping coach , a great combination !
I love the use of the word 'neggies' for the fans who questioned the boards actions, good god only at Southampton can those who want serious success for the club be the neggies and those who were content with the club being ripped apart are the happy clappers…
Rubbish!
Why is it rubbish, we were being ripped apart we were rudderless, RALPH WAS ON A MISSING LIST…

Look it may turn out OK but I am not a neggie for disliking what happened and seeing our ambition appear to fail, neither are the others.
Perhaps and I say perhaps because I am no more in possession of the facts than anyone else, I just put this forward for consideration.

Perhaps what has just transpired, this thing that everyone including myself has been so concerned about, player sales, manager gone, chairman gone, has it been KL and her team planning a better more realistic future, one that is sustainable and fit for a club of our size and following, perhaps the debt position didn't fit with the Leiberrs attitudes and so the players sales were essential to bring the position back in line with their philosophies.

Who am I to argue with there ability to build great empires but if you read how they have achieved this it has not been with mass debt or by taking huge risks.

Below is a section from a report on the. Leibherrs fortune.

His management style was legendary and his success was built on his belief in frugality and delegation of responsibility.

In 1980, he told the media that owing money to other people was gambling.

Liebherr was also aware that his enterprise could have grown faster with the help of bank loans, but adhered strictly to his maxim that money could only be spent after it was earned.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: If e were only five years younger I doubt we'd have felt the need to buy Forster. Make no mistake (and I've seen some truly great keepers with Saints over the years) Borat is up there with the best of them. A true madcap character type of keeper. I can understand his desire to finish in the top league somewhere - He could go on to 40yrs old and he's too good to fade away on our bench. A newly promoted club somewhere would be agreat move for him. Wish him well no matter where he ends up - he's been good to us and I hope we've been good to him. For those saying we are back where we started if he goes - disagree our keepers on the conveyor belt have all matured, grown and had another years experience under their belts so we must be a little better off. Gazza will one day make good or the club would not have persevered with him and we'v already covered Cody. Good luck Borat will never forget the look on your face you threw the bottle back in the crowd - slapped a couple of dozen little gobshites back into their cages - all the phony indignation from the idiots who thought you might not stand up for yourself - priceless.[/p][/quote]Spot on - Real world is simple that Saints can't do a Chelski or Man City and have that sort of quality on the bench ............ It also answers a few of the neggies who couldn't understand why we allowed certain players to leave. Whether we like it or not there is no loyalty by players or Clubs and if you get offered a big pay packet but stay loyal to the club in the next transfer window a new player may well come in and your sat on the bench .............. A sad truth of the modern game ! I for one thought AB was a star and great fun with the Northam End and will be sadly missed but we now have one of the top English keepers in the Country linked up with the England Keeping coach , a great combination ![/p][/quote]I love the use of the word 'neggies' for the fans who questioned the boards actions, good god only at Southampton can those who want serious success for the club be the neggies and those who were content with the club being ripped apart are the happy clappers…[/p][/quote]Rubbish![/p][/quote]Why is it rubbish, we were being ripped apart we were rudderless, RALPH WAS ON A MISSING LIST… Look it may turn out OK but I am not a neggie for disliking what happened and seeing our ambition appear to fail, neither are the others.[/p][/quote]Perhaps and I say perhaps because I am no more in possession of the facts than anyone else, I just put this forward for consideration. Perhaps what has just transpired, this thing that everyone including myself has been so concerned about, player sales, manager gone, chairman gone, has it been KL and her team planning a better more realistic future, one that is sustainable and fit for a club of our size and following, perhaps the debt position didn't fit with the Leiberrs attitudes and so the players sales were essential to bring the position back in line with their philosophies. Who am I to argue with there ability to build great empires but if you read how they have achieved this it has not been with mass debt or by taking huge risks. Below is a section from a report on the. Leibherrs fortune. His management style was legendary and his success was built on his belief in frugality and delegation of responsibility. In 1980, he told the media that owing money to other people was gambling. Liebherr was also aware that his enterprise could have grown faster with the help of bank loans, but adhered strictly to his maxim that money could only be spent after it was earned. fascia123
  • Score: 6

10:22am Fri 22 Aug 14

warrens 76 says...

fascia123 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
jls217 wrote:
If e were only five years younger I doubt we'd have felt the need to buy Forster. Make no mistake (and I've seen some truly great keepers with Saints over the years) Borat is up there with the best of them. A true madcap character type of keeper. I can understand his desire to finish in the top league somewhere - He could go on to 40yrs old and he's too good to fade away on our bench. A newly promoted club somewhere would be agreat move for him.
Wish him well no matter where he ends up - he's been good to us and I hope we've been good to him.
For those saying we are back where we started if he goes - disagree our keepers on the conveyor belt have all matured, grown and had another years experience under their belts so we must be a little better off. Gazza will one day make good or the club would not have persevered with him and we'v already covered Cody.
Good luck Borat will never forget the look on your face you threw the bottle back in the crowd - slapped a couple of dozen little gobshites back into their cages - all the phony indignation from the idiots who thought you might not stand up for yourself - priceless.
Spot on - Real world is simple that Saints can't do a Chelski or Man City and have that sort of quality on the bench ............

It also answers a few of the neggies who couldn't understand why we allowed certain players to leave. Whether we like it or not there is no loyalty by players or Clubs and if you get offered a big pay packet but stay loyal to the club in the next transfer window a new player may well come in and your sat on the bench .............. A sad truth of the modern game !

I for one thought AB was a star and great fun with the Northam End and will be sadly missed but we now have one of the top English keepers in the Country linked up with the England Keeping coach , a great combination !
I love the use of the word 'neggies' for the fans who questioned the boards actions, good god only at Southampton can those who want serious success for the club be the neggies and those who were content with the club being ripped apart are the happy clappers…
Rubbish!
Why is it rubbish, we were being ripped apart we were rudderless, RALPH WAS ON A MISSING LIST…

Look it may turn out OK but I am not a neggie for disliking what happened and seeing our ambition appear to fail, neither are the others.
Perhaps and I say perhaps because I am no more in possession of the facts than anyone else, I just put this forward for consideration.

Perhaps what has just transpired, this thing that everyone including myself has been so concerned about, player sales, manager gone, chairman gone, has it been KL and her team planning a better more realistic future, one that is sustainable and fit for a club of our size and following, perhaps the debt position didn't fit with the Leiberrs attitudes and so the players sales were essential to bring the position back in line with their philosophies.

Who am I to argue with there ability to build great empires but if you read how they have achieved this it has not been with mass debt or by taking huge risks.

Below is a section from a report on the. Leibherrs fortune.

His management style was legendary and his success was built on his belief in frugality and delegation of responsibility.

In 1980, he told the media that owing money to other people was gambling.

Liebherr was also aware that his enterprise could have grown faster with the help of bank loans, but adhered strictly to his maxim that money could only be spent after it was earned.
Different world different times, you try and build a substantial business from scratch today without leverage and you will take forever if at all.

Manageable debt though..
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: If e were only five years younger I doubt we'd have felt the need to buy Forster. Make no mistake (and I've seen some truly great keepers with Saints over the years) Borat is up there with the best of them. A true madcap character type of keeper. I can understand his desire to finish in the top league somewhere - He could go on to 40yrs old and he's too good to fade away on our bench. A newly promoted club somewhere would be agreat move for him. Wish him well no matter where he ends up - he's been good to us and I hope we've been good to him. For those saying we are back where we started if he goes - disagree our keepers on the conveyor belt have all matured, grown and had another years experience under their belts so we must be a little better off. Gazza will one day make good or the club would not have persevered with him and we'v already covered Cody. Good luck Borat will never forget the look on your face you threw the bottle back in the crowd - slapped a couple of dozen little gobshites back into their cages - all the phony indignation from the idiots who thought you might not stand up for yourself - priceless.[/p][/quote]Spot on - Real world is simple that Saints can't do a Chelski or Man City and have that sort of quality on the bench ............ It also answers a few of the neggies who couldn't understand why we allowed certain players to leave. Whether we like it or not there is no loyalty by players or Clubs and if you get offered a big pay packet but stay loyal to the club in the next transfer window a new player may well come in and your sat on the bench .............. A sad truth of the modern game ! I for one thought AB was a star and great fun with the Northam End and will be sadly missed but we now have one of the top English keepers in the Country linked up with the England Keeping coach , a great combination ![/p][/quote]I love the use of the word 'neggies' for the fans who questioned the boards actions, good god only at Southampton can those who want serious success for the club be the neggies and those who were content with the club being ripped apart are the happy clappers…[/p][/quote]Rubbish![/p][/quote]Why is it rubbish, we were being ripped apart we were rudderless, RALPH WAS ON A MISSING LIST… Look it may turn out OK but I am not a neggie for disliking what happened and seeing our ambition appear to fail, neither are the others.[/p][/quote]Perhaps and I say perhaps because I am no more in possession of the facts than anyone else, I just put this forward for consideration. Perhaps what has just transpired, this thing that everyone including myself has been so concerned about, player sales, manager gone, chairman gone, has it been KL and her team planning a better more realistic future, one that is sustainable and fit for a club of our size and following, perhaps the debt position didn't fit with the Leiberrs attitudes and so the players sales were essential to bring the position back in line with their philosophies. Who am I to argue with there ability to build great empires but if you read how they have achieved this it has not been with mass debt or by taking huge risks. Below is a section from a report on the. Leibherrs fortune. His management style was legendary and his success was built on his belief in frugality and delegation of responsibility. In 1980, he told the media that owing money to other people was gambling. Liebherr was also aware that his enterprise could have grown faster with the help of bank loans, but adhered strictly to his maxim that money could only be spent after it was earned.[/p][/quote]Different world different times, you try and build a substantial business from scratch today without leverage and you will take forever if at all. Manageable debt though.. warrens 76
  • Score: 0

10:23am Fri 22 Aug 14

warrens 76 says...

Rising_Son wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
jls217 wrote:
If e were only five years younger I doubt we'd have felt the need to buy Forster. Make no mistake (and I've seen some truly great keepers with Saints over the years) Borat is up there with the best of them. A true madcap character type of keeper. I can understand his desire to finish in the top league somewhere - He could go on to 40yrs old and he's too good to fade away on our bench. A newly promoted club somewhere would be agreat move for him.
Wish him well no matter where he ends up - he's been good to us and I hope we've been good to him.
For those saying we are back where we started if he goes - disagree our keepers on the conveyor belt have all matured, grown and had another years experience under their belts so we must be a little better off. Gazza will one day make good or the club would not have persevered with him and we'v already covered Cody.
Good luck Borat will never forget the look on your face you threw the bottle back in the crowd - slapped a couple of dozen little gobshites back into their cages - all the phony indignation from the idiots who thought you might not stand up for yourself - priceless.
Spot on - Real world is simple that Saints can't do a Chelski or Man City and have that sort of quality on the bench ............

It also answers a few of the neggies who couldn't understand why we allowed certain players to leave. Whether we like it or not there is no loyalty by players or Clubs and if you get offered a big pay packet but stay loyal to the club in the next transfer window a new player may well come in and your sat on the bench .............. A sad truth of the modern game !

I for one thought AB was a star and great fun with the Northam End and will be sadly missed but we now have one of the top English keepers in the Country linked up with the England Keeping coach , a great combination !
I love the use of the word 'neggies' for the fans who questioned the boards actions, good god only at Southampton can those who want serious success for the club be the neggies and those who were content with the club being ripped apart are the happy clappers…
Rubbish!
Why is it rubbish, we were being ripped apart we were rudderless, RALPH WAS ON A MISSING LIST…

Look it may turn out OK but I am not a neggie for disliking what happened and seeing our ambition appear to fail, neither are the others.
It's rubbish because the biggest difference between 'true' neggies and 'true' happy clappers is how optimistic we are. I don't believe any of us liked what happened this summer but the happy clappers (optimists) choose to believe that things are alright and that we still have ambition (maybe a bit different from before but still ambition). Neggies, on the other hand, have chosen to believe that things are not alright and that we have lost our ambition.

The truth is we don't know everything about what has happened. What to believe is therefore our choice.
So neither side should disparage the other with name calling, fair does.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: If e were only five years younger I doubt we'd have felt the need to buy Forster. Make no mistake (and I've seen some truly great keepers with Saints over the years) Borat is up there with the best of them. A true madcap character type of keeper. I can understand his desire to finish in the top league somewhere - He could go on to 40yrs old and he's too good to fade away on our bench. A newly promoted club somewhere would be agreat move for him. Wish him well no matter where he ends up - he's been good to us and I hope we've been good to him. For those saying we are back where we started if he goes - disagree our keepers on the conveyor belt have all matured, grown and had another years experience under their belts so we must be a little better off. Gazza will one day make good or the club would not have persevered with him and we'v already covered Cody. Good luck Borat will never forget the look on your face you threw the bottle back in the crowd - slapped a couple of dozen little gobshites back into their cages - all the phony indignation from the idiots who thought you might not stand up for yourself - priceless.[/p][/quote]Spot on - Real world is simple that Saints can't do a Chelski or Man City and have that sort of quality on the bench ............ It also answers a few of the neggies who couldn't understand why we allowed certain players to leave. Whether we like it or not there is no loyalty by players or Clubs and if you get offered a big pay packet but stay loyal to the club in the next transfer window a new player may well come in and your sat on the bench .............. A sad truth of the modern game ! I for one thought AB was a star and great fun with the Northam End and will be sadly missed but we now have one of the top English keepers in the Country linked up with the England Keeping coach , a great combination ![/p][/quote]I love the use of the word 'neggies' for the fans who questioned the boards actions, good god only at Southampton can those who want serious success for the club be the neggies and those who were content with the club being ripped apart are the happy clappers…[/p][/quote]Rubbish![/p][/quote]Why is it rubbish, we were being ripped apart we were rudderless, RALPH WAS ON A MISSING LIST… Look it may turn out OK but I am not a neggie for disliking what happened and seeing our ambition appear to fail, neither are the others.[/p][/quote]It's rubbish because the biggest difference between 'true' neggies and 'true' happy clappers is how optimistic we are. I don't believe any of us liked what happened this summer but the happy clappers (optimists) choose to believe that things are alright and that we still have ambition (maybe a bit different from before but still ambition). Neggies, on the other hand, have chosen to believe that things are not alright and that we have lost our ambition. The truth is we don't know everything about what has happened. What to believe is therefore our choice.[/p][/quote]So neither side should disparage the other with name calling, fair does. warrens 76
  • Score: -1

10:23am Fri 22 Aug 14

Confucious says...

Great character Artur and a good keeper and I wish him all the best.

Nonetheless I've always been nervy when he's playing - and a great save would be often followed by a real howler of a pass out.

I suspect the defenders felt this too at some cost to their game. I think they will be more confident with Fraser.

Polish roads are full of Arturs - quick, brave, skilled, extremely scary and often short lived. Having said that you have to love 'em!
Great character Artur and a good keeper and I wish him all the best. Nonetheless I've always been nervy when he's playing - and a great save would be often followed by a real howler of a pass out. I suspect the defenders felt this too at some cost to their game. I think they will be more confident with Fraser. Polish roads are full of Arturs - quick, brave, skilled, extremely scary and often short lived. Having said that you have to love 'em! Confucious
  • Score: 4

10:27am Fri 22 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
jls217 wrote:
If e were only five years younger I doubt we'd have felt the need to buy Forster. Make no mistake (and I've seen some truly great keepers with Saints over the years) Borat is up there with the best of them. A true madcap character type of keeper. I can understand his desire to finish in the top league somewhere - He could go on to 40yrs old and he's too good to fade away on our bench. A newly promoted club somewhere would be agreat move for him.
Wish him well no matter where he ends up - he's been good to us and I hope we've been good to him.
For those saying we are back where we started if he goes - disagree our keepers on the conveyor belt have all matured, grown and had another years experience under their belts so we must be a little better off. Gazza will one day make good or the club would not have persevered with him and we'v already covered Cody.
Good luck Borat will never forget the look on your face you threw the bottle back in the crowd - slapped a couple of dozen little gobshites back into their cages - all the phony indignation from the idiots who thought you might not stand up for yourself - priceless.
Spot on - Real world is simple that Saints can't do a Chelski or Man City and have that sort of quality on the bench ............

It also answers a few of the neggies who couldn't understand why we allowed certain players to leave. Whether we like it or not there is no loyalty by players or Clubs and if you get offered a big pay packet but stay loyal to the club in the next transfer window a new player may well come in and your sat on the bench .............. A sad truth of the modern game !

I for one thought AB was a star and great fun with the Northam End and will be sadly missed but we now have one of the top English keepers in the Country linked up with the England Keeping coach , a great combination !
I love the use of the word 'neggies' for the fans who questioned the boards actions, good god only at Southampton can those who want serious success for the club be the neggies and those who were content with the club being ripped apart are the happy clappers…
Rubbish!
Why is it rubbish, we were being ripped apart we were rudderless, RALPH WAS ON A MISSING LIST…

Look it may turn out OK but I am not a neggie for disliking what happened and seeing our ambition appear to fail, neither are the others.
It's rubbish because the biggest difference between 'true' neggies and 'true' happy clappers is how optimistic we are. I don't believe any of us liked what happened this summer but the happy clappers (optimists) choose to believe that things are alright and that we still have ambition (maybe a bit different from before but still ambition). Neggies, on the other hand, have chosen to believe that things are not alright and that we have lost our ambition.

The truth is we don't know everything about what has happened. What to believe is therefore our choice.
So neither side should disparage the other with name calling, fair does.
That would be the 'grown up' thing to do but there is childishness in all of us.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: If e were only five years younger I doubt we'd have felt the need to buy Forster. Make no mistake (and I've seen some truly great keepers with Saints over the years) Borat is up there with the best of them. A true madcap character type of keeper. I can understand his desire to finish in the top league somewhere - He could go on to 40yrs old and he's too good to fade away on our bench. A newly promoted club somewhere would be agreat move for him. Wish him well no matter where he ends up - he's been good to us and I hope we've been good to him. For those saying we are back where we started if he goes - disagree our keepers on the conveyor belt have all matured, grown and had another years experience under their belts so we must be a little better off. Gazza will one day make good or the club would not have persevered with him and we'v already covered Cody. Good luck Borat will never forget the look on your face you threw the bottle back in the crowd - slapped a couple of dozen little gobshites back into their cages - all the phony indignation from the idiots who thought you might not stand up for yourself - priceless.[/p][/quote]Spot on - Real world is simple that Saints can't do a Chelski or Man City and have that sort of quality on the bench ............ It also answers a few of the neggies who couldn't understand why we allowed certain players to leave. Whether we like it or not there is no loyalty by players or Clubs and if you get offered a big pay packet but stay loyal to the club in the next transfer window a new player may well come in and your sat on the bench .............. A sad truth of the modern game ! I for one thought AB was a star and great fun with the Northam End and will be sadly missed but we now have one of the top English keepers in the Country linked up with the England Keeping coach , a great combination ![/p][/quote]I love the use of the word 'neggies' for the fans who questioned the boards actions, good god only at Southampton can those who want serious success for the club be the neggies and those who were content with the club being ripped apart are the happy clappers…[/p][/quote]Rubbish![/p][/quote]Why is it rubbish, we were being ripped apart we were rudderless, RALPH WAS ON A MISSING LIST… Look it may turn out OK but I am not a neggie for disliking what happened and seeing our ambition appear to fail, neither are the others.[/p][/quote]It's rubbish because the biggest difference between 'true' neggies and 'true' happy clappers is how optimistic we are. I don't believe any of us liked what happened this summer but the happy clappers (optimists) choose to believe that things are alright and that we still have ambition (maybe a bit different from before but still ambition). Neggies, on the other hand, have chosen to believe that things are not alright and that we have lost our ambition. The truth is we don't know everything about what has happened. What to believe is therefore our choice.[/p][/quote]So neither side should disparage the other with name calling, fair does.[/p][/quote]That would be the 'grown up' thing to do but there is childishness in all of us. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

10:31am Fri 22 Aug 14

right back in the bar says...

Usual hysterics I see. In hindsight ladies I agree it was probably a mistake to select Forster straightaway but doesn't anyone share RK's belief that Forster is a better keeper? Boruc's reaction is typically over the top - if he as good as he thinks he is he should fight for his place and show some belief that opportunities will come his way.
Usual hysterics I see. In hindsight ladies I agree it was probably a mistake to select Forster straightaway but doesn't anyone share RK's belief that Forster is a better keeper? Boruc's reaction is typically over the top - if he as good as he thinks he is he should fight for his place and show some belief that opportunities will come his way. right back in the bar
  • Score: 1

10:33am Fri 22 Aug 14

Alicesdad says...

It was inevitable once the new goalie arrived. Lets get on with it.
Artur is brilliant at times but I will never forget being at Arsenal when he did his needless dribble and lost the ball for a Giroud tap in. He is also a crowd pleasing character and still has plenty to give. I doubt it will be with us though. All the best squire, wherever you go.
It was inevitable once the new goalie arrived. Lets get on with it. Artur is brilliant at times but I will never forget being at Arsenal when he did his needless dribble and lost the ball for a Giroud tap in. He is also a crowd pleasing character and still has plenty to give. I doubt it will be with us though. All the best squire, wherever you go. Alicesdad
  • Score: 3

10:34am Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

warrens 76 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
jls217 wrote:
If e were only five years younger I doubt we'd have felt the need to buy Forster. Make no mistake (and I've seen some truly great keepers with Saints over the years) Borat is up there with the best of them. A true madcap character type of keeper. I can understand his desire to finish in the top league somewhere - He could go on to 40yrs old and he's too good to fade away on our bench. A newly promoted club somewhere would be agreat move for him.
Wish him well no matter where he ends up - he's been good to us and I hope we've been good to him.
For those saying we are back where we started if he goes - disagree our keepers on the conveyor belt have all matured, grown and had another years experience under their belts so we must be a little better off. Gazza will one day make good or the club would not have persevered with him and we'v already covered Cody.
Good luck Borat will never forget the look on your face you threw the bottle back in the crowd - slapped a couple of dozen little gobshites back into their cages - all the phony indignation from the idiots who thought you might not stand up for yourself - priceless.
Spot on - Real world is simple that Saints can't do a Chelski or Man City and have that sort of quality on the bench ............

It also answers a few of the neggies who couldn't understand why we allowed certain players to leave. Whether we like it or not there is no loyalty by players or Clubs and if you get offered a big pay packet but stay loyal to the club in the next transfer window a new player may well come in and your sat on the bench .............. A sad truth of the modern game !

I for one thought AB was a star and great fun with the Northam End and will be sadly missed but we now have one of the top English keepers in the Country linked up with the England Keeping coach , a great combination !
I love the use of the word 'neggies' for the fans who questioned the boards actions, good god only at Southampton can those who want serious success for the club be the neggies and those who were content with the club being ripped apart are the happy clappers…
Rubbish!
Why is it rubbish, we were being ripped apart we were rudderless, RALPH WAS ON A MISSING LIST…

Look it may turn out OK but I am not a neggie for disliking what happened and seeing our ambition appear to fail, neither are the others.
Perhaps and I say perhaps because I am no more in possession of the facts than anyone else, I just put this forward for consideration.

Perhaps what has just transpired, this thing that everyone including myself has been so concerned about, player sales, manager gone, chairman gone, has it been KL and her team planning a better more realistic future, one that is sustainable and fit for a club of our size and following, perhaps the debt position didn't fit with the Leiberrs attitudes and so the players sales were essential to bring the position back in line with their philosophies.

Who am I to argue with there ability to build great empires but if you read how they have achieved this it has not been with mass debt or by taking huge risks.

Below is a section from a report on the. Leibherrs fortune.

His management style was legendary and his success was built on his belief in frugality and delegation of responsibility.

In 1980, he told the media that owing money to other people was gambling.

Liebherr was also aware that his enterprise could have grown faster with the help of bank loans, but adhered strictly to his maxim that money could only be spent after it was earned.
Different world different times, you try and build a substantial business from scratch today without leverage and you will take forever if at all.

Manageable debt though..
I have and continue to do so, we started with no support from the banks 20 years ago and have not used the banks money for the last 10 years.

The bottom line as with my company that is my way of doing things and like it or not it will be KLs way of doing things going forward, obviously as I share her families attitudes to running a business I support what is going on, unfortunately I don't have their wealth though, however, I also understand that others have built very good businesses on as you say manageable debt and understand that some of our fans are impatient for success.

I truly believe the future under this project is not fraught with the same dangers of the previous regime and I think in five years we will have all the things we are wishing for.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: If e were only five years younger I doubt we'd have felt the need to buy Forster. Make no mistake (and I've seen some truly great keepers with Saints over the years) Borat is up there with the best of them. A true madcap character type of keeper. I can understand his desire to finish in the top league somewhere - He could go on to 40yrs old and he's too good to fade away on our bench. A newly promoted club somewhere would be agreat move for him. Wish him well no matter where he ends up - he's been good to us and I hope we've been good to him. For those saying we are back where we started if he goes - disagree our keepers on the conveyor belt have all matured, grown and had another years experience under their belts so we must be a little better off. Gazza will one day make good or the club would not have persevered with him and we'v already covered Cody. Good luck Borat will never forget the look on your face you threw the bottle back in the crowd - slapped a couple of dozen little gobshites back into their cages - all the phony indignation from the idiots who thought you might not stand up for yourself - priceless.[/p][/quote]Spot on - Real world is simple that Saints can't do a Chelski or Man City and have that sort of quality on the bench ............ It also answers a few of the neggies who couldn't understand why we allowed certain players to leave. Whether we like it or not there is no loyalty by players or Clubs and if you get offered a big pay packet but stay loyal to the club in the next transfer window a new player may well come in and your sat on the bench .............. A sad truth of the modern game ! I for one thought AB was a star and great fun with the Northam End and will be sadly missed but we now have one of the top English keepers in the Country linked up with the England Keeping coach , a great combination ![/p][/quote]I love the use of the word 'neggies' for the fans who questioned the boards actions, good god only at Southampton can those who want serious success for the club be the neggies and those who were content with the club being ripped apart are the happy clappers…[/p][/quote]Rubbish![/p][/quote]Why is it rubbish, we were being ripped apart we were rudderless, RALPH WAS ON A MISSING LIST… Look it may turn out OK but I am not a neggie for disliking what happened and seeing our ambition appear to fail, neither are the others.[/p][/quote]Perhaps and I say perhaps because I am no more in possession of the facts than anyone else, I just put this forward for consideration. Perhaps what has just transpired, this thing that everyone including myself has been so concerned about, player sales, manager gone, chairman gone, has it been KL and her team planning a better more realistic future, one that is sustainable and fit for a club of our size and following, perhaps the debt position didn't fit with the Leiberrs attitudes and so the players sales were essential to bring the position back in line with their philosophies. Who am I to argue with there ability to build great empires but if you read how they have achieved this it has not been with mass debt or by taking huge risks. Below is a section from a report on the. Leibherrs fortune. His management style was legendary and his success was built on his belief in frugality and delegation of responsibility. In 1980, he told the media that owing money to other people was gambling. Liebherr was also aware that his enterprise could have grown faster with the help of bank loans, but adhered strictly to his maxim that money could only be spent after it was earned.[/p][/quote]Different world different times, you try and build a substantial business from scratch today without leverage and you will take forever if at all. Manageable debt though..[/p][/quote]I have and continue to do so, we started with no support from the banks 20 years ago and have not used the banks money for the last 10 years. The bottom line as with my company that is my way of doing things and like it or not it will be KLs way of doing things going forward, obviously as I share her families attitudes to running a business I support what is going on, unfortunately I don't have their wealth though, however, I also understand that others have built very good businesses on as you say manageable debt and understand that some of our fans are impatient for success. I truly believe the future under this project is not fraught with the same dangers of the previous regime and I think in five years we will have all the things we are wishing for. fascia123
  • Score: 4

10:45am Fri 22 Aug 14

Confucious says...

Off thread, but I have been told by the Equality and Tolerance Commission that Poopeyism is still ok. They reviewed Seed's skate comments on here and say foul abuse such as this is fine as it can be shown to be entirely accurate.
Off thread, but I have been told by the Equality and Tolerance Commission that Poopeyism is still ok. They reviewed Seed's skate comments on here and say foul abuse such as this is fine as it can be shown to be entirely accurate. Confucious
  • Score: 5

10:49am Fri 22 Aug 14

Wembley76 says...

I am a big supporter of RonKo, and he has handled issues well, but I can't help thinking that this was an error of judgement...didn't we just need a good understudy to AB for a season or two? Wouldn't it have been better to bring in an old experienced stand by or a young 'potential' that was better than Gazza? This seems a waste of money and we will now be back o square one....or am I missing something? AB has been immense for us....thanks Artur and hope you get a good club.
Btw, now L'pool have signed MB, what chance RL will get many games...unlikely and a bad move for someone who wants to play a few more games for England...
I am a big supporter of RonKo, and he has handled issues well, but I can't help thinking that this was an error of judgement...didn't we just need a good understudy to AB for a season or two? Wouldn't it have been better to bring in an old experienced stand by or a young 'potential' that was better than Gazza? This seems a waste of money and we will now be back o square one....or am I missing something? AB has been immense for us....thanks Artur and hope you get a good club. Btw, now L'pool have signed MB, what chance RL will get many games...unlikely and a bad move for someone who wants to play a few more games for England... Wembley76
  • Score: 5

10:58am Fri 22 Aug 14

Clever Dick says...

Ring ring
Ring ring
Hello this is Liverpool football club. Brenda speaking.
Hi again Brenda this is Les Reed. We've got a fantastic keeper down here who is surplus to requirements. He is a Polish international of the highest quality and as we have done a lot of business lately we are prepared to offer you first refusal at a bargain price of £11million. What do you say?
That's very generous of you Les. We'll take him.
OK Brenda that' a deal then.
Click.
I can't believe it Katharina. That's 3 times now we've overcharged Skiverpool by £10million. I can't believe how stupid they are. Who else shall we stitch 'em up with?
Ring ring Ring ring Hello this is Liverpool football club. Brenda speaking. Hi again Brenda this is Les Reed. We've got a fantastic keeper down here who is surplus to requirements. He is a Polish international of the highest quality and as we have done a lot of business lately we are prepared to offer you first refusal at a bargain price of £11million. What do you say? That's very generous of you Les. We'll take him. OK Brenda that' a deal then. Click. I can't believe it Katharina. That's 3 times now we've overcharged Skiverpool by £10million. I can't believe how stupid they are. Who else shall we stitch 'em up with? Clever Dick
  • Score: 7

11:04am Fri 22 Aug 14

warrens 76 says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This is endemic as to the problems at SFC.

ARTUR is popular and very good. In 2014 the Management are unable to manage.

We wanted 2 x Number 1 Keepers for the League and the Cup and Fans will be sad that we cannot even seem to achieve this.

WE had the FIGHT from League One - and now fans are **** off as the Club seem to lack the ambitions of the Fans.

KEEP ARTUR and rotate him to give him plenty of playing time with Fraser.

COYR+WS
I agree, being good management and sensible bean counters are not remotely linked.
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This is endemic as to the problems at SFC. ARTUR is popular and very good. In 2014 the Management are unable to manage. We wanted 2 x Number 1 Keepers for the League and the Cup and Fans will be sad that we cannot even seem to achieve this. WE had the FIGHT from League One - and now fans are **** off as the Club seem to lack the ambitions of the Fans. KEEP ARTUR and rotate him to give him plenty of playing time with Fraser. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]I agree, being good management and sensible bean counters are not remotely linked. warrens 76
  • Score: 0

11:09am Fri 22 Aug 14

Sainty saint saint says...

We all love gordon watson wrote:
Shame that we still lack the status of having two top keepers competing for the #1 spot. Thought Boruc would fight for his place, to be fair it shpuld have been the other way round, it was borucs spot last i looked
From what I've heard Boruc was happy to fight for his place if it was a fair fight. Ron came out and said 'FF is no. 1' when it would have been easier to say 'All keepers are fighting for no. 1 but we're going to start with FF this weekend'.

It's only a minor difference, but one that would make a big difference to someone like Boruc who has a bit of an ego.

Like others say though, maybe they'd all had a discussion behind closed doors and he only spoke to the press after Boruc had had a hissy fit. Who knows?
[quote][p][bold]We all love gordon watson[/bold] wrote: Shame that we still lack the status of having two top keepers competing for the #1 spot. Thought Boruc would fight for his place, to be fair it shpuld have been the other way round, it was borucs spot last i looked[/p][/quote]From what I've heard Boruc was happy to fight for his place if it was a fair fight. Ron came out and said 'FF is no. 1' when it would have been easier to say 'All keepers are fighting for no. 1 but we're going to start with FF this weekend'. It's only a minor difference, but one that would make a big difference to someone like Boruc who has a bit of an ego. Like others say though, maybe they'd all had a discussion behind closed doors and he only spoke to the press after Boruc had had a hissy fit. Who knows? Sainty saint saint
  • Score: 2

11:13am Fri 22 Aug 14

notaclue says...

THE12THMAN wrote:
It is very hard trying to keep two good keepers happy at a football club, even Chelsea are struggling to keep Czech and they have champions league football. We will just have to hope that Forster doesn't get injured.
Why do we have Gaza, Cody and Kelvin either they are up to the back up job or they shouldn't be there.
[quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: It is very hard trying to keep two good keepers happy at a football club, even Chelsea are struggling to keep Czech and they have champions league football. We will just have to hope that Forster doesn't get injured.[/p][/quote]Why do we have Gaza, Cody and Kelvin either they are up to the back up job or they shouldn't be there. notaclue
  • Score: 3

11:23am Fri 22 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

Warrens - Seed - Hedge End Bob - Costa Gaz and the many others .....

WE have been on this remarkable journey since League One when Barnard was firing shots over the bar pre-game and we lost to Swindon at home.

The FAN BASE galvanised under RED ARMY and we took the fight Home and Away through the Leagues to the premiership with a high of 3rd last season and finished 8th.

We were at Plymouth AWAY - in the snow at Birmingham AWAY - and our fantastic Supporters drove the Team to Victory and the football community got to know our brand and that we meant business ...

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON

And under that banner - we chanted that we were off to Brazil at west Ham away last season and our FAIR CITY Thad no better representation that our passionate fans.

The SUMMER has been shocking with all the school boy errors - ( letting lambert go was one - and he made the difference vs pool last week and for just 4 million)

NOW after asking for two first class keepers and having to endure all the lost points and Cup exits - we get Fraser Forster and seem incapable of managing two first class keepers.

FANS DISPAIR at recent events - no wonder Season ticket Sales are down - even the posters outside our loved stadium convey a lack of first class leadership and passion.

NO WONDER fans have been divided between trying to be positive and suorting the hierarchy - and posting realistically about the folly of following the business model without taking into account the fans and the big picture.

WAKE UP

MUST DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT SFC - mediocrity - cup exits - and the spectre of fighting for 40 points beckon.

RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN.
NO FEAR - NO SURRENDER.
WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON
Warrens - Seed - Hedge End Bob - Costa Gaz and the many others ..... WE have been on this remarkable journey since League One when Barnard was firing shots over the bar pre-game and we lost to Swindon at home. The FAN BASE galvanised under RED ARMY and we took the fight Home and Away through the Leagues to the premiership with a high of 3rd last season and finished 8th. We were at Plymouth AWAY - in the snow at Birmingham AWAY - and our fantastic Supporters drove the Team to Victory and the football community got to know our brand and that we meant business ... WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON And under that banner - we chanted that we were off to Brazil at west Ham away last season and our FAIR CITY Thad no better representation that our passionate fans. The SUMMER has been shocking with all the school boy errors - ( letting lambert go was one - and he made the difference vs pool last week and for just 4 million) NOW after asking for two first class keepers and having to endure all the lost points and Cup exits - we get Fraser Forster and seem incapable of managing two first class keepers. FANS DISPAIR at recent events - no wonder Season ticket Sales are down - even the posters outside our loved stadium convey a lack of first class leadership and passion. NO WONDER fans have been divided between trying to be positive and suorting the hierarchy - and posting realistically about the folly of following the business model without taking into account the fans and the big picture. WAKE UP MUST DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT SFC - mediocrity - cup exits - and the spectre of fighting for 40 points beckon. RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN. NO FEAR - NO SURRENDER. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 0

11:23am Fri 22 Aug 14

notaclue says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
We all love gordon watson wrote:
Shame that we still lack the status of having two top keepers competing for the #1 spot. Thought Boruc would fight for his place, to be fair it shpuld have been the other way round, it was borucs spot last i looked
From what I've heard Boruc was happy to fight for his place if it was a fair fight. Ron came out and said 'FF is no. 1' when it would have been easier to say 'All keepers are fighting for no. 1 but we're going to start with FF this weekend'.

It's only a minor difference, but one that would make a big difference to someone like Boruc who has a bit of an ego.

Like others say though, maybe they'd all had a discussion behind closed doors and he only spoke to the press after Boruc had had a hissy fit. Who knows?
To be honest I don't think Koeman was ever keen on Boruc being our number 1, and I don't think he will lose any sleep when he leaves.
Boruc and Jack Cork were never offered new contracts. As fans we may love them both both but Koeman has other plans for his team and he is doing a very difficult job extremely well.
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]We all love gordon watson[/bold] wrote: Shame that we still lack the status of having two top keepers competing for the #1 spot. Thought Boruc would fight for his place, to be fair it shpuld have been the other way round, it was borucs spot last i looked[/p][/quote]From what I've heard Boruc was happy to fight for his place if it was a fair fight. Ron came out and said 'FF is no. 1' when it would have been easier to say 'All keepers are fighting for no. 1 but we're going to start with FF this weekend'. It's only a minor difference, but one that would make a big difference to someone like Boruc who has a bit of an ego. Like others say though, maybe they'd all had a discussion behind closed doors and he only spoke to the press after Boruc had had a hissy fit. Who knows?[/p][/quote]To be honest I don't think Koeman was ever keen on Boruc being our number 1, and I don't think he will lose any sleep when he leaves. Boruc and Jack Cork were never offered new contracts. As fans we may love them both both but Koeman has other plans for his team and he is doing a very difficult job extremely well. notaclue
  • Score: 5

11:36am Fri 22 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

right back in the bar wrote:
Usual hysterics I see. In hindsight ladies I agree it was probably a mistake to select Forster straightaway but doesn't anyone share RK's belief that Forster is a better keeper? Boruc's reaction is typically over the top - if he as good as he thinks he is he should fight for his place and show some belief that opportunities will come his way.
Why is it hysterics? We know how volatile Boruc is and that's why several posted last week that he should play against Liverpool as he has done nothing to lose his place. Long term Fortser will obviously replace him. Boruc's reaction was so predictable a few of us predicted it! We are trying to build a squad that has two top options for each position but each time we get past GO we slip backwards again.
[quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: Usual hysterics I see. In hindsight ladies I agree it was probably a mistake to select Forster straightaway but doesn't anyone share RK's belief that Forster is a better keeper? Boruc's reaction is typically over the top - if he as good as he thinks he is he should fight for his place and show some belief that opportunities will come his way.[/p][/quote]Why is it hysterics? We know how volatile Boruc is and that's why several posted last week that he should play against Liverpool as he has done nothing to lose his place. Long term Fortser will obviously replace him. Boruc's reaction was so predictable a few of us predicted it! We are trying to build a squad that has two top options for each position but each time we get past GO we slip backwards again. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 5

11:41am Fri 22 Aug 14

TGodSFC says...

jls217 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
Southampton boy wrote:
What about the other keeper from USA not sure of his name why not give him ago if he is still around
His name is Cody Cropper, I believe he and Gazz are in the under 21 team
Good things are being said about the potential of our American import. Works very hard, determined and could one day be a top keeper. Time will tell.
We got that boy from spuds as part of the Bale deal, was meant to be a quality payer, yet I've never seen him play.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Southampton boy[/bold] wrote: What about the other keeper from USA not sure of his name why not give him ago if he is still around[/p][/quote]His name is Cody Cropper, I believe he and Gazz are in the under 21 team[/p][/quote]Good things are being said about the potential of our American import. Works very hard, determined and could one day be a top keeper. Time will tell.[/p][/quote]We got that boy from spuds as part of the Bale deal, was meant to be a quality payer, yet I've never seen him play. TGodSFC
  • Score: 1

11:45am Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
Usual hysterics I see. In hindsight ladies I agree it was probably a mistake to select Forster straightaway but doesn't anyone share RK's belief that Forster is a better keeper? Boruc's reaction is typically over the top - if he as good as he thinks he is he should fight for his place and show some belief that opportunities will come his way.
Why is it hysterics? We know how volatile Boruc is and that's why several posted last week that he should play against Liverpool as he has done nothing to lose his place. Long term Fortser will obviously replace him. Boruc's reaction was so predictable a few of us predicted it! We are trying to build a squad that has two top options for each position but each time we get past GO we slip backwards again.
How should it of been dealt with?

Were we ever going to have two top options?

If they had played AB against skiverpool when would of been a good time to introduce FF?

If they had waited until after the transfer window shut and then put FF in goal and Boruc refused to be number two which he has clearly done, what position would we be in then?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: Usual hysterics I see. In hindsight ladies I agree it was probably a mistake to select Forster straightaway but doesn't anyone share RK's belief that Forster is a better keeper? Boruc's reaction is typically over the top - if he as good as he thinks he is he should fight for his place and show some belief that opportunities will come his way.[/p][/quote]Why is it hysterics? We know how volatile Boruc is and that's why several posted last week that he should play against Liverpool as he has done nothing to lose his place. Long term Fortser will obviously replace him. Boruc's reaction was so predictable a few of us predicted it! We are trying to build a squad that has two top options for each position but each time we get past GO we slip backwards again.[/p][/quote]How should it of been dealt with? Were we ever going to have two top options? If they had played AB against skiverpool when would of been a good time to introduce FF? If they had waited until after the transfer window shut and then put FF in goal and Boruc refused to be number two which he has clearly done, what position would we be in then? fascia123
  • Score: 3

11:46am Fri 22 Aug 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Warrens - Seed - Hedge End Bob - Costa Gaz and the many others .....

WE have been on this remarkable journey since League One when Barnard was firing shots over the bar pre-game and we lost to Swindon at home.

The FAN BASE galvanised under RED ARMY and we took the fight Home and Away through the Leagues to the premiership with a high of 3rd last season and finished 8th.

We were at Plymouth AWAY - in the snow at Birmingham AWAY - and our fantastic Supporters drove the Team to Victory and the football community got to know our brand and that we meant business ...

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON

And under that banner - we chanted that we were off to Brazil at west Ham away last season and our FAIR CITY Thad no better representation that our passionate fans.

The SUMMER has been shocking with all the school boy errors - ( letting lambert go was one - and he made the difference vs pool last week and for just 4 million)

NOW after asking for two first class keepers and having to endure all the lost points and Cup exits - we get Fraser Forster and seem incapable of managing two first class keepers.

FANS DISPAIR at recent events - no wonder Season ticket Sales are down - even the posters outside our loved stadium convey a lack of first class leadership and passion.

NO WONDER fans have been divided between trying to be positive and suorting the hierarchy - and posting realistically about the folly of following the business model without taking into account the fans and the big picture.

WAKE UP

MUST DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT SFC - mediocrity - cup exits - and the spectre of fighting for 40 points beckon.

RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN.
NO FEAR - NO SURRENDER.
WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON
Christ. Can't imagine what you were like in the 90s when we were fighting relegation every season!
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: Warrens - Seed - Hedge End Bob - Costa Gaz and the many others ..... WE have been on this remarkable journey since League One when Barnard was firing shots over the bar pre-game and we lost to Swindon at home. The FAN BASE galvanised under RED ARMY and we took the fight Home and Away through the Leagues to the premiership with a high of 3rd last season and finished 8th. We were at Plymouth AWAY - in the snow at Birmingham AWAY - and our fantastic Supporters drove the Team to Victory and the football community got to know our brand and that we meant business ... WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON And under that banner - we chanted that we were off to Brazil at west Ham away last season and our FAIR CITY Thad no better representation that our passionate fans. The SUMMER has been shocking with all the school boy errors - ( letting lambert go was one - and he made the difference vs pool last week and for just 4 million) NOW after asking for two first class keepers and having to endure all the lost points and Cup exits - we get Fraser Forster and seem incapable of managing two first class keepers. FANS DISPAIR at recent events - no wonder Season ticket Sales are down - even the posters outside our loved stadium convey a lack of first class leadership and passion. NO WONDER fans have been divided between trying to be positive and suorting the hierarchy - and posting realistically about the folly of following the business model without taking into account the fans and the big picture. WAKE UP MUST DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT SFC - mediocrity - cup exits - and the spectre of fighting for 40 points beckon. RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN. NO FEAR - NO SURRENDER. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON[/p][/quote]Christ. Can't imagine what you were like in the 90s when we were fighting relegation every season! SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: 2

11:53am Fri 22 Aug 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

TGodSFC wrote:
jls217 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
Southampton boy wrote:
What about the other keeper from USA not sure of his name why not give him ago if he is still around
His name is Cody Cropper, I believe he and Gazz are in the under 21 team
Good things are being said about the potential of our American import. Works very hard, determined and could one day be a top keeper. Time will tell.
We got that boy from spuds as part of the Bale deal, was meant to be a quality payer, yet I've never seen him play.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


We got Tommy Forecast as part of the Bale deal! And we all no how he turned out!!

Cropper would have been 14 at the time...
[quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Southampton boy[/bold] wrote: What about the other keeper from USA not sure of his name why not give him ago if he is still around[/p][/quote]His name is Cody Cropper, I believe he and Gazz are in the under 21 team[/p][/quote]Good things are being said about the potential of our American import. Works very hard, determined and could one day be a top keeper. Time will tell.[/p][/quote]We got that boy from spuds as part of the Bale deal, was meant to be a quality payer, yet I've never seen him play.[/p][/quote]HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA We got Tommy Forecast as part of the Bale deal! And we all no how he turned out!! Cropper would have been 14 at the time... SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: 4

11:54am Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

SouthamptonLegend wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Warrens - Seed - Hedge End Bob - Costa Gaz and the many others .....

WE have been on this remarkable journey since League One when Barnard was firing shots over the bar pre-game and we lost to Swindon at home.

The FAN BASE galvanised under RED ARMY and we took the fight Home and Away through the Leagues to the premiership with a high of 3rd last season and finished 8th.

We were at Plymouth AWAY - in the snow at Birmingham AWAY - and our fantastic Supporters drove the Team to Victory and the football community got to know our brand and that we meant business ...

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON

And under that banner - we chanted that we were off to Brazil at west Ham away last season and our FAIR CITY Thad no better representation that our passionate fans.

The SUMMER has been shocking with all the school boy errors - ( letting lambert go was one - and he made the difference vs pool last week and for just 4 million)

NOW after asking for two first class keepers and having to endure all the lost points and Cup exits - we get Fraser Forster and seem incapable of managing two first class keepers.

FANS DISPAIR at recent events - no wonder Season ticket Sales are down - even the posters outside our loved stadium convey a lack of first class leadership and passion.

NO WONDER fans have been divided between trying to be positive and suorting the hierarchy - and posting realistically about the folly of following the business model without taking into account the fans and the big picture.

WAKE UP

MUST DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT SFC - mediocrity - cup exits - and the spectre of fighting for 40 points beckon.

RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN.
NO FEAR - NO SURRENDER.
WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON
Christ. Can't imagine what you were like in the 90s when we were fighting relegation every season!
I've been going since the late sixties, it's been a dream all the way, ha ha.
[quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: Warrens - Seed - Hedge End Bob - Costa Gaz and the many others ..... WE have been on this remarkable journey since League One when Barnard was firing shots over the bar pre-game and we lost to Swindon at home. The FAN BASE galvanised under RED ARMY and we took the fight Home and Away through the Leagues to the premiership with a high of 3rd last season and finished 8th. We were at Plymouth AWAY - in the snow at Birmingham AWAY - and our fantastic Supporters drove the Team to Victory and the football community got to know our brand and that we meant business ... WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON And under that banner - we chanted that we were off to Brazil at west Ham away last season and our FAIR CITY Thad no better representation that our passionate fans. The SUMMER has been shocking with all the school boy errors - ( letting lambert go was one - and he made the difference vs pool last week and for just 4 million) NOW after asking for two first class keepers and having to endure all the lost points and Cup exits - we get Fraser Forster and seem incapable of managing two first class keepers. FANS DISPAIR at recent events - no wonder Season ticket Sales are down - even the posters outside our loved stadium convey a lack of first class leadership and passion. NO WONDER fans have been divided between trying to be positive and suorting the hierarchy - and posting realistically about the folly of following the business model without taking into account the fans and the big picture. WAKE UP MUST DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT SFC - mediocrity - cup exits - and the spectre of fighting for 40 points beckon. RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN. NO FEAR - NO SURRENDER. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON[/p][/quote]Christ. Can't imagine what you were like in the 90s when we were fighting relegation every season![/p][/quote]I've been going since the late sixties, it's been a dream all the way, ha ha. fascia123
  • Score: -4

11:56am Fri 22 Aug 14

Benali76 says...

Shame but fair enough. There's a lot of clubs that would be lucky to have him.
Shame but fair enough. There's a lot of clubs that would be lucky to have him. Benali76
  • Score: 2

11:59am Fri 22 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This is endemic as to the problems at SFC.

ARTUR is popular and very good. In 2014 the Management are unable to manage.

We wanted 2 x Number 1 Keepers for the League and the Cup and Fans will be sad that we cannot even seem to achieve this.

WE had the FIGHT from League One - and now fans are **** off as the Club seem to lack the ambitions of the Fans.

KEEP ARTUR and rotate him to give him plenty of playing time with Fraser.

COYR+WS
There is no room for sentiment or popularity. We need stability at the back. If Artur wants to go for footballing reasons then fair enough.

If anything it is good management looking out for his interests and keeping harmony and stability, also building for the future.
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This is endemic as to the problems at SFC. ARTUR is popular and very good. In 2014 the Management are unable to manage. We wanted 2 x Number 1 Keepers for the League and the Cup and Fans will be sad that we cannot even seem to achieve this. WE had the FIGHT from League One - and now fans are **** off as the Club seem to lack the ambitions of the Fans. KEEP ARTUR and rotate him to give him plenty of playing time with Fraser. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]There is no room for sentiment or popularity. We need stability at the back. If Artur wants to go for footballing reasons then fair enough. If anything it is good management looking out for his interests and keeping harmony and stability, also building for the future. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: -6

12:02pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Mush On The Beach says...

I would have chosen to keep Boruc in at the beginning and let Forster wait for his chance, giving the impression to both that they are in competition for first spot. Clearly Ron thinks differently and he is the boss. It will be sad if we lose Artur, particularly as our other choices don’t seem to be up to the mark as a premiership number two. I respect Kelvin but I think last season showed age and fitness is starting to catch up with him.

Courtois instantly replaced Cech for Chelski whereas Hart remained in front of Caballero for Citeh on the opening day, it will be worth keeping an eye on how those situations unfold over the season for a comparison.
I would have chosen to keep Boruc in at the beginning and let Forster wait for his chance, giving the impression to both that they are in competition for first spot. Clearly Ron thinks differently and he is the boss. It will be sad if we lose Artur, particularly as our other choices don’t seem to be up to the mark as a premiership number two. I respect Kelvin but I think last season showed age and fitness is starting to catch up with him. Courtois instantly replaced Cech for Chelski whereas Hart remained in front of Caballero for Citeh on the opening day, it will be worth keeping an eye on how those situations unfold over the season for a comparison. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 0

12:04pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
We all love gordon watson wrote:
Shame that we still lack the status of having two top keepers competing for the #1 spot. Thought Boruc would fight for his place, to be fair it shpuld have been the other way round, it was borucs spot last i looked
From what I've heard Boruc was happy to fight for his place if it was a fair fight. Ron came out and said 'FF is no. 1' when it would have been easier to say 'All keepers are fighting for no. 1 but we're going to start with FF this weekend'.

It's only a minor difference, but one that would make a big difference to someone like Boruc who has a bit of an ego.

Like others say though, maybe they'd all had a discussion behind closed doors and he only spoke to the press after Boruc had had a hissy fit. Who knows?
Why do you assume he had a hissy fit?
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]We all love gordon watson[/bold] wrote: Shame that we still lack the status of having two top keepers competing for the #1 spot. Thought Boruc would fight for his place, to be fair it shpuld have been the other way round, it was borucs spot last i looked[/p][/quote]From what I've heard Boruc was happy to fight for his place if it was a fair fight. Ron came out and said 'FF is no. 1' when it would have been easier to say 'All keepers are fighting for no. 1 but we're going to start with FF this weekend'. It's only a minor difference, but one that would make a big difference to someone like Boruc who has a bit of an ego. Like others say though, maybe they'd all had a discussion behind closed doors and he only spoke to the press after Boruc had had a hissy fit. Who knows?[/p][/quote]Why do you assume he had a hissy fit? Rising_Son
  • Score: -1

12:05pm Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This is endemic as to the problems at SFC.

ARTUR is popular and very good. In 2014 the Management are unable to manage.

We wanted 2 x Number 1 Keepers for the League and the Cup and Fans will be sad that we cannot even seem to achieve this.

WE had the FIGHT from League One - and now fans are **** off as the Club seem to lack the ambitions of the Fans.

KEEP ARTUR and rotate him to give him plenty of playing time with Fraser.

COYR+WS
There is no room for sentiment or popularity. We need stability at the back. If Artur wants to go for footballing reasons then fair enough.

If anything it is good management looking out for his interests and keeping harmony and stability, also building for the future.
Definitely, what would of happened mid season if the change were made and AB decided he wasn't going to play second fiddle, manage the situation now and deal with it and that is exactly what. RK has done.
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This is endemic as to the problems at SFC. ARTUR is popular and very good. In 2014 the Management are unable to manage. We wanted 2 x Number 1 Keepers for the League and the Cup and Fans will be sad that we cannot even seem to achieve this. WE had the FIGHT from League One - and now fans are **** off as the Club seem to lack the ambitions of the Fans. KEEP ARTUR and rotate him to give him plenty of playing time with Fraser. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]There is no room for sentiment or popularity. We need stability at the back. If Artur wants to go for footballing reasons then fair enough. If anything it is good management looking out for his interests and keeping harmony and stability, also building for the future.[/p][/quote]Definitely, what would of happened mid season if the change were made and AB decided he wasn't going to play second fiddle, manage the situation now and deal with it and that is exactly what. RK has done. fascia123
  • Score: -2

12:09pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

Sainty saint saint, Sorry, I misread your comment about the 'hissy fit'.
Sainty saint saint, Sorry, I misread your comment about the 'hissy fit'. Rising_Son
  • Score: -1

12:09pm Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Questions as I see it, but don't seem to be getting an answer.


How should it of been dealt with?

Were we ever going to have two top options?

If they had played AB against skiverpool when would of been a good time to introduce FF?

If they had waited until after the transfer window shut and then put FF in goal and Boruc refused to be number two which he has clearly done, what position would we be in then?
Questions as I see it, but don't seem to be getting an answer. How should it of been dealt with? Were we ever going to have two top options? If they had played AB against skiverpool when would of been a good time to introduce FF? If they had waited until after the transfer window shut and then put FF in goal and Boruc refused to be number two which he has clearly done, what position would we be in then? fascia123
  • Score: 0

12:12pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This is endemic as to the problems at SFC.

ARTUR is popular and very good. In 2014 the Management are unable to manage.

We wanted 2 x Number 1 Keepers for the League and the Cup and Fans will be sad that we cannot even seem to achieve this.

WE had the FIGHT from League One - and now fans are **** off as the Club seem to lack the ambitions of the Fans.

KEEP ARTUR and rotate him to give him plenty of playing time with Fraser.

COYR+WS
There is no room for sentiment or popularity. We need stability at the back. If Artur wants to go for footballing reasons then fair enough.

If anything it is good management looking out for his interests and keeping harmony and stability, also building for the future.
Definitely, what would of happened mid season if the change were made and AB decided he wasn't going to play second fiddle, manage the situation now and deal with it and that is exactly what. RK has done.
Yes, and I cannot for the life of think why we would want to rotate keepers - that would not help anybody settle especially with the eccentricity of Boruc at times. We have a 10 million keeper, now he needs an understudy.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This is endemic as to the problems at SFC. ARTUR is popular and very good. In 2014 the Management are unable to manage. We wanted 2 x Number 1 Keepers for the League and the Cup and Fans will be sad that we cannot even seem to achieve this. WE had the FIGHT from League One - and now fans are **** off as the Club seem to lack the ambitions of the Fans. KEEP ARTUR and rotate him to give him plenty of playing time with Fraser. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]There is no room for sentiment or popularity. We need stability at the back. If Artur wants to go for footballing reasons then fair enough. If anything it is good management looking out for his interests and keeping harmony and stability, also building for the future.[/p][/quote]Definitely, what would of happened mid season if the change were made and AB decided he wasn't going to play second fiddle, manage the situation now and deal with it and that is exactly what. RK has done.[/p][/quote]Yes, and I cannot for the life of think why we would want to rotate keepers - that would not help anybody settle especially with the eccentricity of Boruc at times. We have a 10 million keeper, now he needs an understudy. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 0

12:15pm Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This is endemic as to the problems at SFC.

ARTUR is popular and very good. In 2014 the Management are unable to manage.

We wanted 2 x Number 1 Keepers for the League and the Cup and Fans will be sad that we cannot even seem to achieve this.

WE had the FIGHT from League One - and now fans are **** off as the Club seem to lack the ambitions of the Fans.

KEEP ARTUR and rotate him to give him plenty of playing time with Fraser.

COYR+WS
There is no room for sentiment or popularity. We need stability at the back. If Artur wants to go for footballing reasons then fair enough.

If anything it is good management looking out for his interests and keeping harmony and stability, also building for the future.
Definitely, what would of happened mid season if the change were made and AB decided he wasn't going to play second fiddle, manage the situation now and deal with it and that is exactly what. RK has done.
Yes, and I cannot for the life of think why we would want to rotate keepers - that would not help anybody settle especially with the eccentricity of Boruc at times. We have a 10 million keeper, now he needs an understudy.
I would think the next England manager should come from within SFC bloody good grounding I would of thought
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This is endemic as to the problems at SFC. ARTUR is popular and very good. In 2014 the Management are unable to manage. We wanted 2 x Number 1 Keepers for the League and the Cup and Fans will be sad that we cannot even seem to achieve this. WE had the FIGHT from League One - and now fans are **** off as the Club seem to lack the ambitions of the Fans. KEEP ARTUR and rotate him to give him plenty of playing time with Fraser. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]There is no room for sentiment or popularity. We need stability at the back. If Artur wants to go for footballing reasons then fair enough. If anything it is good management looking out for his interests and keeping harmony and stability, also building for the future.[/p][/quote]Definitely, what would of happened mid season if the change were made and AB decided he wasn't going to play second fiddle, manage the situation now and deal with it and that is exactly what. RK has done.[/p][/quote]Yes, and I cannot for the life of think why we would want to rotate keepers - that would not help anybody settle especially with the eccentricity of Boruc at times. We have a 10 million keeper, now he needs an understudy.[/p][/quote]I would think the next England manager should come from within SFC bloody good grounding I would of thought fascia123
  • Score: 2

12:17pm Fri 22 Aug 14

TGodSFC says...

SouthamptonLegend wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
jls217 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
Southampton boy wrote:
What about the other keeper from USA not sure of his name why not give him ago if he is still around
His name is Cody Cropper, I believe he and Gazz are in the under 21 team
Good things are being said about the potential of our American import. Works very hard, determined and could one day be a top keeper. Time will tell.
We got that boy from spuds as part of the Bale deal, was meant to be a quality payer, yet I've never seen him play.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



We got Tommy Forecast as part of the Bale deal! And we all no how he turned out!!

Cropper would have been 14 at the time...
Oh yeah my mistake, what a load of cropper. Been a long week.
[quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Southampton boy[/bold] wrote: What about the other keeper from USA not sure of his name why not give him ago if he is still around[/p][/quote]His name is Cody Cropper, I believe he and Gazz are in the under 21 team[/p][/quote]Good things are being said about the potential of our American import. Works very hard, determined and could one day be a top keeper. Time will tell.[/p][/quote]We got that boy from spuds as part of the Bale deal, was meant to be a quality payer, yet I've never seen him play.[/p][/quote]HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA We got Tommy Forecast as part of the Bale deal! And we all no how he turned out!! Cropper would have been 14 at the time...[/p][/quote]Oh yeah my mistake, what a load of cropper. Been a long week. TGodSFC
  • Score: 0

12:18pm Fri 22 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Does that mean his mate "Charlie" will also go with him......If so that'll be another two out of the door that the media will have a field day with!..:o)
Does that mean his mate "Charlie" will also go with him......If so that'll be another two out of the door that the media will have a field day with!..:o) J7junctionseven
  • Score: 1

12:19pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This is endemic as to the problems at SFC.

ARTUR is popular and very good. In 2014 the Management are unable to manage.

We wanted 2 x Number 1 Keepers for the League and the Cup and Fans will be sad that we cannot even seem to achieve this.

WE had the FIGHT from League One - and now fans are **** off as the Club seem to lack the ambitions of the Fans.

KEEP ARTUR and rotate him to give him plenty of playing time with Fraser.

COYR+WS
There is no room for sentiment or popularity. We need stability at the back. If Artur wants to go for footballing reasons then fair enough.

If anything it is good management looking out for his interests and keeping harmony and stability, also building for the future.
Definitely, what would of happened mid season if the change were made and AB decided he wasn't going to play second fiddle, manage the situation now and deal with it and that is exactly what. RK has done.
Yes, and I cannot for the life of think why we would want to rotate keepers - that would not help anybody settle especially with the eccentricity of Boruc at times. We have a 10 million keeper, now he needs an understudy.
I would think the next England manager should come from within SFC bloody good grounding I would of thought
Who do you suggest? Branfoot? Hoddle? Strachan? Sturrock? Pardew? Adkins? Pochettino? Koeman?
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This is endemic as to the problems at SFC. ARTUR is popular and very good. In 2014 the Management are unable to manage. We wanted 2 x Number 1 Keepers for the League and the Cup and Fans will be sad that we cannot even seem to achieve this. WE had the FIGHT from League One - and now fans are **** off as the Club seem to lack the ambitions of the Fans. KEEP ARTUR and rotate him to give him plenty of playing time with Fraser. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]There is no room for sentiment or popularity. We need stability at the back. If Artur wants to go for footballing reasons then fair enough. If anything it is good management looking out for his interests and keeping harmony and stability, also building for the future.[/p][/quote]Definitely, what would of happened mid season if the change were made and AB decided he wasn't going to play second fiddle, manage the situation now and deal with it and that is exactly what. RK has done.[/p][/quote]Yes, and I cannot for the life of think why we would want to rotate keepers - that would not help anybody settle especially with the eccentricity of Boruc at times. We have a 10 million keeper, now he needs an understudy.[/p][/quote]I would think the next England manager should come from within SFC bloody good grounding I would of thought[/p][/quote]Who do you suggest? Branfoot? Hoddle? Strachan? Sturrock? Pardew? Adkins? Pochettino? Koeman? Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

12:36pm Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Rising_Son wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This is endemic as to the problems at SFC.

ARTUR is popular and very good. In 2014 the Management are unable to manage.

We wanted 2 x Number 1 Keepers for the League and the Cup and Fans will be sad that we cannot even seem to achieve this.

WE had the FIGHT from League One - and now fans are **** off as the Club seem to lack the ambitions of the Fans.

KEEP ARTUR and rotate him to give him plenty of playing time with Fraser.

COYR+WS
There is no room for sentiment or popularity. We need stability at the back. If Artur wants to go for footballing reasons then fair enough.

If anything it is good management looking out for his interests and keeping harmony and stability, also building for the future.
Definitely, what would of happened mid season if the change were made and AB decided he wasn't going to play second fiddle, manage the situation now and deal with it and that is exactly what. RK has done.
Yes, and I cannot for the life of think why we would want to rotate keepers - that would not help anybody settle especially with the eccentricity of Boruc at times. We have a 10 million keeper, now he needs an understudy.
I would think the next England manager should come from within SFC bloody good grounding I would of thought
Who do you suggest? Branfoot? Hoddle? Strachan? Sturrock? Pardew? Adkins? Pochettino? Koeman?
I was more thinking the thick skin you would develop here would be useful.

For saints I would say apart from Branfoot and Sturrock they ain't a bad bunch, I do like Koeman though he strikes me as being good tactically and honest.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This is endemic as to the problems at SFC. ARTUR is popular and very good. In 2014 the Management are unable to manage. We wanted 2 x Number 1 Keepers for the League and the Cup and Fans will be sad that we cannot even seem to achieve this. WE had the FIGHT from League One - and now fans are **** off as the Club seem to lack the ambitions of the Fans. KEEP ARTUR and rotate him to give him plenty of playing time with Fraser. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]There is no room for sentiment or popularity. We need stability at the back. If Artur wants to go for footballing reasons then fair enough. If anything it is good management looking out for his interests and keeping harmony and stability, also building for the future.[/p][/quote]Definitely, what would of happened mid season if the change were made and AB decided he wasn't going to play second fiddle, manage the situation now and deal with it and that is exactly what. RK has done.[/p][/quote]Yes, and I cannot for the life of think why we would want to rotate keepers - that would not help anybody settle especially with the eccentricity of Boruc at times. We have a 10 million keeper, now he needs an understudy.[/p][/quote]I would think the next England manager should come from within SFC bloody good grounding I would of thought[/p][/quote]Who do you suggest? Branfoot? Hoddle? Strachan? Sturrock? Pardew? Adkins? Pochettino? Koeman?[/p][/quote]I was more thinking the thick skin you would develop here would be useful. For saints I would say apart from Branfoot and Sturrock they ain't a bad bunch, I do like Koeman though he strikes me as being good tactically and honest. fascia123
  • Score: 2

12:37pm Fri 22 Aug 14

CJMatley says...

Outside of the Box wrote:
CJMatley wrote:
Arthur is a great keeper.
Mystified by the £10M signing of Frazer.
Fear Frazer lacks Arthur's agility,confidence and ability to stop low shots.
At Celtic goalkeepers are part timers...spend most of their time watching the game... collect medals etc
Would that be the same Celtic that The Holy Goalie played for?
Yes!
Hope that I am wrong.
Will try and learn how to spell Fraser.
Hope Artur will be there if Fraser fails to impress.
[quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CJMatley[/bold] wrote: Arthur is a great keeper. Mystified by the £10M signing of Frazer. Fear Frazer lacks Arthur's agility,confidence and ability to stop low shots. At Celtic goalkeepers are part timers...spend most of their time watching the game... collect medals etc[/p][/quote]Would that be the same Celtic that The Holy Goalie played for?[/p][/quote]Yes! Hope that I am wrong. Will try and learn how to spell Fraser. Hope Artur will be there if Fraser fails to impress. CJMatley
  • Score: 0

12:40pm Fri 22 Aug 14

miltonnroad76 says...

ballotelli 16 mill now thats what i call panic buying
ballotelli 16 mill now thats what i call panic buying miltonnroad76
  • Score: 9

12:42pm Fri 22 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

This would be a shame and a loss to the club - we need a quality back up keeper. How can Spurs keep Vorm and Friedel happy all year while we can't keep Boruc happy for more than a week?

I do think we've shot ourselves in the foot a little here. I'd have preferred it if we'd kept Artur in goal and challenged him to keep the shirt - I think that's a fairer approach that would have kept him happy and ensured he realised that he had a fair chance of competing for the shirt.

A happy coincidence of that would have been keeping him happy until the transfer window closed and, who knows, he might have kept the shirt for a while.
This would be a shame and a loss to the club - we need a quality back up keeper. How can Spurs keep Vorm and Friedel happy all year while we can't keep Boruc happy for more than a week? I do think we've shot ourselves in the foot a little here. I'd have preferred it if we'd kept Artur in goal and challenged him to keep the shirt - I think that's a fairer approach that would have kept him happy and ensured he realised that he had a fair chance of competing for the shirt. A happy coincidence of that would have been keeping him happy until the transfer window closed and, who knows, he might have kept the shirt for a while. SaintJD
  • Score: 0

12:47pm Fri 22 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

miltonnroad76 wrote:
ballotelli 16 mill now thats what i call panic buying
Terrible buy but the fee is surprisingly low. I'd hoped they'd be stitched up for £30M or so. What an awful signing for team harmony as well - the last nail in the coffin of Liverpool's dodgy title ambitions.

He'll have the odd impressive game, yes, but the baggage and impact on other players is awful. Got to wonder how he and Gerrard are going to get on because, as players and characters, they are polar opposites.

Still, at least Liverpool can 100% no longer claim to be a club of somehow high ethics and standards. All that was clearly thrown out of the window with their defence of Suarez, but replacing him with this just hammers the point home.
[quote][p][bold]miltonnroad76[/bold] wrote: ballotelli 16 mill now thats what i call panic buying[/p][/quote]Terrible buy but the fee is surprisingly low. I'd hoped they'd be stitched up for £30M or so. What an awful signing for team harmony as well - the last nail in the coffin of Liverpool's dodgy title ambitions. He'll have the odd impressive game, yes, but the baggage and impact on other players is awful. Got to wonder how he and Gerrard are going to get on because, as players and characters, they are polar opposites. Still, at least Liverpool can 100% no longer claim to be a club of somehow high ethics and standards. All that was clearly thrown out of the window with their defence of Suarez, but replacing him with this just hammers the point home. SaintJD
  • Score: 4

12:50pm Fri 22 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

CJMatley wrote:
Outside of the Box wrote:
CJMatley wrote:
Arthur is a great keeper.
Mystified by the £10M signing of Frazer.
Fear Frazer lacks Arthur's agility,confidence and ability to stop low shots.
At Celtic goalkeepers are part timers...spend most of their time watching the game... collect medals etc
Would that be the same Celtic that The Holy Goalie played for?
Yes!
Hope that I am wrong.
Will try and learn how to spell Fraser.
Hope Artur will be there if Fraser fails to impress.
Strange you think someone 10 years younger is going to be less agile CJ. Of course he's a big lad, but doesn't look immobile to me, or lacking in confidence.
[quote][p][bold]CJMatley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CJMatley[/bold] wrote: Arthur is a great keeper. Mystified by the £10M signing of Frazer. Fear Frazer lacks Arthur's agility,confidence and ability to stop low shots. At Celtic goalkeepers are part timers...spend most of their time watching the game... collect medals etc[/p][/quote]Would that be the same Celtic that The Holy Goalie played for?[/p][/quote]Yes! Hope that I am wrong. Will try and learn how to spell Fraser. Hope Artur will be there if Fraser fails to impress.[/p][/quote]Strange you think someone 10 years younger is going to be less agile CJ. Of course he's a big lad, but doesn't look immobile to me, or lacking in confidence. SaintJD
  • Score: 0

12:59pm Fri 22 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This is endemic as to the problems at SFC.

ARTUR is popular and very good. In 2014 the Management are unable to manage.

We wanted 2 x Number 1 Keepers for the League and the Cup and Fans will be sad that we cannot even seem to achieve this.

WE had the FIGHT from League One - and now fans are **** off as the Club seem to lack the ambitions of the Fans.

KEEP ARTUR and rotate him to give him plenty of playing time with Fraser.

COYR+WS
There is no room for sentiment or popularity. We need stability at the back. If Artur wants to go for footballing reasons then fair enough.

If anything it is good management looking out for his interests and keeping harmony and stability, also building for the future.
Definitely, what would of happened mid season if the change were made and AB decided he wasn't going to play second fiddle, manage the situation now and deal with it and that is exactly what. RK has done.
Yes, and I cannot for the life of think why we would want to rotate keepers - that would not help anybody settle especially with the eccentricity of Boruc at times. We have a 10 million keeper, now he needs an understudy.
We will be back to Davis who is **** and slow and Gazza who does not have the confidence of the fans.

Maybe Crody Cropper can step up - he is better than Gazza.

We will exit the Cups without a decent Keeper and we HAVE MORE AMBITION than that - otherwise why would fans continue to go to the Cup Games and Travel Away.

WEMBLEY for the MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This is endemic as to the problems at SFC. ARTUR is popular and very good. In 2014 the Management are unable to manage. We wanted 2 x Number 1 Keepers for the League and the Cup and Fans will be sad that we cannot even seem to achieve this. WE had the FIGHT from League One - and now fans are **** off as the Club seem to lack the ambitions of the Fans. KEEP ARTUR and rotate him to give him plenty of playing time with Fraser. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]There is no room for sentiment or popularity. We need stability at the back. If Artur wants to go for footballing reasons then fair enough. If anything it is good management looking out for his interests and keeping harmony and stability, also building for the future.[/p][/quote]Definitely, what would of happened mid season if the change were made and AB decided he wasn't going to play second fiddle, manage the situation now and deal with it and that is exactly what. RK has done.[/p][/quote]Yes, and I cannot for the life of think why we would want to rotate keepers - that would not help anybody settle especially with the eccentricity of Boruc at times. We have a 10 million keeper, now he needs an understudy.[/p][/quote]We will be back to Davis who is **** and slow and Gazza who does not have the confidence of the fans. Maybe Crody Cropper can step up - he is better than Gazza. We will exit the Cups without a decent Keeper and we HAVE MORE AMBITION than that - otherwise why would fans continue to go to the Cup Games and Travel Away. WEMBLEY for the MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON. The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 2

1:04pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Benali76 says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
Absolutely gutted, OK he made 1 huge gaff. ( was Sunderland really his fault?) . " dodgy kicking" is bull. He was obviously told to do that.

Best Keeper we have had for a good while, and we got him on a free.

How many of last seasons players will end up leaving. The situation with Cork doesn't look great if we are looking to get that Uraguay OAP in for 5m plus unlimited travel on the number 7 bus. No wonder Morgan is p1ssed off.
Hull sell shane Long, buy Jordan Rhodes and are off down the offie with the proffit.

It's not all negative though we ALMOST got a point against a team we beat last year who has lost the leagues best striker.
You've managed to spin it in a way that makes out beating Liverpool at their place should be an easy win. Well done.
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: Absolutely gutted, OK he made 1 huge gaff. ( was Sunderland really his fault?) . " dodgy kicking" is bull. He was obviously told to do that. Best Keeper we have had for a good while, and we got him on a free. How many of last seasons players will end up leaving. The situation with Cork doesn't look great if we are looking to get that Uraguay OAP in for 5m plus unlimited travel on the number 7 bus. No wonder Morgan is p1ssed off. Hull sell shane Long, buy Jordan Rhodes and are off down the offie with the proffit. It's not all negative though we ALMOST got a point against a team we beat last year who has lost the leagues best striker.[/p][/quote]You've managed to spin it in a way that makes out beating Liverpool at their place should be an easy win. Well done. Benali76
  • Score: 9

1:04pm Fri 22 Aug 14

right back in the bar says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
Usual hysterics I see. In hindsight ladies I agree it was probably a mistake to select Forster straightaway but doesn't anyone share RK's belief that Forster is a better keeper? Boruc's reaction is typically over the top - if he as good as he thinks he is he should fight for his place and show some belief that opportunities will come his way.
Why is it hysterics? We know how volatile Boruc is and that's why several posted last week that he should play against Liverpool as he has done nothing to lose his place. Long term Fortser will obviously replace him. Boruc's reaction was so predictable a few of us predicted it! We are trying to build a squad that has two top options for each position but each time we get past GO we slip backwards again.
I was referring to the hysterics of the posters on here madam - including you actually who just see this as another example of how badly things are being managed at the football club when it is just another footballer with an outsize ego throwing toys out of the pram.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: Usual hysterics I see. In hindsight ladies I agree it was probably a mistake to select Forster straightaway but doesn't anyone share RK's belief that Forster is a better keeper? Boruc's reaction is typically over the top - if he as good as he thinks he is he should fight for his place and show some belief that opportunities will come his way.[/p][/quote]Why is it hysterics? We know how volatile Boruc is and that's why several posted last week that he should play against Liverpool as he has done nothing to lose his place. Long term Fortser will obviously replace him. Boruc's reaction was so predictable a few of us predicted it! We are trying to build a squad that has two top options for each position but each time we get past GO we slip backwards again.[/p][/quote]I was referring to the hysterics of the posters on here madam - including you actually who just see this as another example of how badly things are being managed at the football club when it is just another footballer with an outsize ego throwing toys out of the pram. right back in the bar
  • Score: 0

1:08pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

SaintJD wrote:
This would be a shame and a loss to the club - we need a quality back up keeper. How can Spurs keep Vorm and Friedel happy all year while we can't keep Boruc happy for more than a week?

I do think we've shot ourselves in the foot a little here. I'd have preferred it if we'd kept Artur in goal and challenged him to keep the shirt - I think that's a fairer approach that would have kept him happy and ensured he realised that he had a fair chance of competing for the shirt.

A happy coincidence of that would have been keeping him happy until the transfer window closed and, who knows, he might have kept the shirt for a while.
Maybe the reason they can keep Friedel happy is that he is rather old, and is winding down his career on very good wages. Vorm, I don't know but maybe he is just happy to be a benchwarmer on probably pretty decent wages, or maybe he expects Lloris to move on in the not too distant future. I don't think Boruc wants to wind down his career yet or be a benchwarmer, or expects Forster to move on soon.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: This would be a shame and a loss to the club - we need a quality back up keeper. How can Spurs keep Vorm and Friedel happy all year while we can't keep Boruc happy for more than a week? I do think we've shot ourselves in the foot a little here. I'd have preferred it if we'd kept Artur in goal and challenged him to keep the shirt - I think that's a fairer approach that would have kept him happy and ensured he realised that he had a fair chance of competing for the shirt. A happy coincidence of that would have been keeping him happy until the transfer window closed and, who knows, he might have kept the shirt for a while.[/p][/quote]Maybe the reason they can keep Friedel happy is that he is rather old, and is winding down his career on very good wages. Vorm, I don't know but maybe he is just happy to be a benchwarmer on probably pretty decent wages, or maybe he expects Lloris to move on in the not too distant future. I don't think Boruc wants to wind down his career yet or be a benchwarmer, or expects Forster to move on soon. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

1:10pm Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

right back in the bar wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
Usual hysterics I see. In hindsight ladies I agree it was probably a mistake to select Forster straightaway but doesn't anyone share RK's belief that Forster is a better keeper? Boruc's reaction is typically over the top - if he as good as he thinks he is he should fight for his place and show some belief that opportunities will come his way.
Why is it hysterics? We know how volatile Boruc is and that's why several posted last week that he should play against Liverpool as he has done nothing to lose his place. Long term Fortser will obviously replace him. Boruc's reaction was so predictable a few of us predicted it! We are trying to build a squad that has two top options for each position but each time we get past GO we slip backwards again.
I was referring to the hysterics of the posters on here madam - including you actually who just see this as another example of how badly things are being managed at the football club when it is just another footballer with an outsize ego throwing toys out of the pram.
:-)
[quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: Usual hysterics I see. In hindsight ladies I agree it was probably a mistake to select Forster straightaway but doesn't anyone share RK's belief that Forster is a better keeper? Boruc's reaction is typically over the top - if he as good as he thinks he is he should fight for his place and show some belief that opportunities will come his way.[/p][/quote]Why is it hysterics? We know how volatile Boruc is and that's why several posted last week that he should play against Liverpool as he has done nothing to lose his place. Long term Fortser will obviously replace him. Boruc's reaction was so predictable a few of us predicted it! We are trying to build a squad that has two top options for each position but each time we get past GO we slip backwards again.[/p][/quote]I was referring to the hysterics of the posters on here madam - including you actually who just see this as another example of how badly things are being managed at the football club when it is just another footballer with an outsize ego throwing toys out of the pram.[/p][/quote]:-) fascia123
  • Score: 0

1:10pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This is endemic as to the problems at SFC.

ARTUR is popular and very good. In 2014 the Management are unable to manage.

We wanted 2 x Number 1 Keepers for the League and the Cup and Fans will be sad that we cannot even seem to achieve this.

WE had the FIGHT from League One - and now fans are **** off as the Club seem to lack the ambitions of the Fans.

KEEP ARTUR and rotate him to give him plenty of playing time with Fraser.

COYR+WS
There is no room for sentiment or popularity. We need stability at the back. If Artur wants to go for footballing reasons then fair enough.

If anything it is good management looking out for his interests and keeping harmony and stability, also building for the future.
Definitely, what would of happened mid season if the change were made and AB decided he wasn't going to play second fiddle, manage the situation now and deal with it and that is exactly what. RK has done.
Yes, and I cannot for the life of think why we would want to rotate keepers - that would not help anybody settle especially with the eccentricity of Boruc at times. We have a 10 million keeper, now he needs an understudy.
We will be back to Davis who is **** and slow and Gazza who does not have the confidence of the fans.

Maybe Crody Cropper can step up - he is better than Gazza.

We will exit the Cups without a decent Keeper and we HAVE MORE AMBITION than that - otherwise why would fans continue to go to the Cup Games and Travel Away.

WEMBLEY for the MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.
Do you make a lot of money betting on you predictions?
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This is endemic as to the problems at SFC. ARTUR is popular and very good. In 2014 the Management are unable to manage. We wanted 2 x Number 1 Keepers for the League and the Cup and Fans will be sad that we cannot even seem to achieve this. WE had the FIGHT from League One - and now fans are **** off as the Club seem to lack the ambitions of the Fans. KEEP ARTUR and rotate him to give him plenty of playing time with Fraser. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]There is no room for sentiment or popularity. We need stability at the back. If Artur wants to go for footballing reasons then fair enough. If anything it is good management looking out for his interests and keeping harmony and stability, also building for the future.[/p][/quote]Definitely, what would of happened mid season if the change were made and AB decided he wasn't going to play second fiddle, manage the situation now and deal with it and that is exactly what. RK has done.[/p][/quote]Yes, and I cannot for the life of think why we would want to rotate keepers - that would not help anybody settle especially with the eccentricity of Boruc at times. We have a 10 million keeper, now he needs an understudy.[/p][/quote]We will be back to Davis who is **** and slow and Gazza who does not have the confidence of the fans. Maybe Crody Cropper can step up - he is better than Gazza. We will exit the Cups without a decent Keeper and we HAVE MORE AMBITION than that - otherwise why would fans continue to go to the Cup Games and Travel Away. WEMBLEY for the MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.[/p][/quote]Do you make a lot of money betting on you predictions? Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

1:12pm Fri 22 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

SouthamptonLegend wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote: Warrens - Seed - Hedge End Bob - Costa Gaz and the many others ..... WE have been on this remarkable journey since League One when Barnard was firing shots over the bar pre-game and we lost to Swindon at home. The FAN BASE galvanised under RED ARMY and we took the fight Home and Away through the Leagues to the premiership with a high of 3rd last season and finished 8th. We were at Plymouth AWAY - in the snow at Birmingham AWAY - and our fantastic Supporters drove the Team to Victory and the football community got to know our brand and that we meant business ... WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON And under that banner - we chanted that we were off to Brazil at west Ham away last season and our FAIR CITY Thad no better representation that our passionate fans. The SUMMER has been shocking with all the school boy errors - ( letting lambert go was one - and he made the difference vs pool last week and for just 4 million) NOW after asking for two first class keepers and having to endure all the lost points and Cup exits - we get Fraser Forster and seem incapable of managing two first class keepers. FANS DISPAIR at recent events - no wonder Season ticket Sales are down - even the posters outside our loved stadium convey a lack of first class leadership and passion. NO WONDER fans have been divided between trying to be positive and suorting the hierarchy - and posting realistically about the folly of following the business model without taking into account the fans and the big picture. WAKE UP MUST DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT SFC - mediocrity - cup exits - and the spectre of fighting for 40 points beckon. RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN. NO FEAR - NO SURRENDER. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON
Christ. Can't imagine what you were like in the 90s when we were fighting relegation every season!
Thanks for the Post - as we get to the heart of the BIG ISSUE.

Why in 2014 should we return to being a club fighting Relegation every year because if that is what is on offer - a whole generation of fans will switch off after being sold short by the Club.

WE FIGHT FOR EUROPE - WE FIGHT A WEMBLEY APPEARANCE.
[quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: Warrens - Seed - Hedge End Bob - Costa Gaz and the many others ..... WE have been on this remarkable journey since League One when Barnard was firing shots over the bar pre-game and we lost to Swindon at home. The FAN BASE galvanised under RED ARMY and we took the fight Home and Away through the Leagues to the premiership with a high of 3rd last season and finished 8th. We were at Plymouth AWAY - in the snow at Birmingham AWAY - and our fantastic Supporters drove the Team to Victory and the football community got to know our brand and that we meant business ... WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON And under that banner - we chanted that we were off to Brazil at west Ham away last season and our FAIR CITY Thad no better representation that our passionate fans. The SUMMER has been shocking with all the school boy errors - ( letting lambert go was one - and he made the difference vs pool last week and for just 4 million) NOW after asking for two first class keepers and having to endure all the lost points and Cup exits - we get Fraser Forster and seem incapable of managing two first class keepers. FANS DISPAIR at recent events - no wonder Season ticket Sales are down - even the posters outside our loved stadium convey a lack of first class leadership and passion. NO WONDER fans have been divided between trying to be positive and suorting the hierarchy - and posting realistically about the folly of following the business model without taking into account the fans and the big picture. WAKE UP MUST DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT SFC - mediocrity - cup exits - and the spectre of fighting for 40 points beckon. RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN. NO FEAR - NO SURRENDER. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON[/p][/quote]Christ. Can't imagine what you were like in the 90s when we were fighting relegation every season![/p][/quote]Thanks for the Post - as we get to the heart of the BIG ISSUE. Why in 2014 should we return to being a club fighting Relegation every year because if that is what is on offer - a whole generation of fans will switch off after being sold short by the Club. WE FIGHT FOR EUROPE - WE FIGHT A WEMBLEY APPEARANCE. The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 0

1:24pm Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
SouthamptonLegend wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote: Warrens - Seed - Hedge End Bob - Costa Gaz and the many others ..... WE have been on this remarkable journey since League One when Barnard was firing shots over the bar pre-game and we lost to Swindon at home. The FAN BASE galvanised under RED ARMY and we took the fight Home and Away through the Leagues to the premiership with a high of 3rd last season and finished 8th. We were at Plymouth AWAY - in the snow at Birmingham AWAY - and our fantastic Supporters drove the Team to Victory and the football community got to know our brand and that we meant business ... WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON And under that banner - we chanted that we were off to Brazil at west Ham away last season and our FAIR CITY Thad no better representation that our passionate fans. The SUMMER has been shocking with all the school boy errors - ( letting lambert go was one - and he made the difference vs pool last week and for just 4 million) NOW after asking for two first class keepers and having to endure all the lost points and Cup exits - we get Fraser Forster and seem incapable of managing two first class keepers. FANS DISPAIR at recent events - no wonder Season ticket Sales are down - even the posters outside our loved stadium convey a lack of first class leadership and passion. NO WONDER fans have been divided between trying to be positive and suorting the hierarchy - and posting realistically about the folly of following the business model without taking into account the fans and the big picture. WAKE UP MUST DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT SFC - mediocrity - cup exits - and the spectre of fighting for 40 points beckon. RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN. NO FEAR - NO SURRENDER. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON
Christ. Can't imagine what you were like in the 90s when we were fighting relegation every season!
Thanks for the Post - as we get to the heart of the BIG ISSUE.

Why in 2014 should we return to being a club fighting Relegation every year because if that is what is on offer - a whole generation of fans will switch off after being sold short by the Club.

WE FIGHT FOR EUROPE - WE FIGHT A WEMBLEY APPEARANCE.
Remind me why we didn't get to Wembley last year,was it our choice of goal keeper for the cup games, was it the previous manager seeming lack of interest in the game against Sunderland??
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: Warrens - Seed - Hedge End Bob - Costa Gaz and the many others ..... WE have been on this remarkable journey since League One when Barnard was firing shots over the bar pre-game and we lost to Swindon at home. The FAN BASE galvanised under RED ARMY and we took the fight Home and Away through the Leagues to the premiership with a high of 3rd last season and finished 8th. We were at Plymouth AWAY - in the snow at Birmingham AWAY - and our fantastic Supporters drove the Team to Victory and the football community got to know our brand and that we meant business ... WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON And under that banner - we chanted that we were off to Brazil at west Ham away last season and our FAIR CITY Thad no better representation that our passionate fans. The SUMMER has been shocking with all the school boy errors - ( letting lambert go was one - and he made the difference vs pool last week and for just 4 million) NOW after asking for two first class keepers and having to endure all the lost points and Cup exits - we get Fraser Forster and seem incapable of managing two first class keepers. FANS DISPAIR at recent events - no wonder Season ticket Sales are down - even the posters outside our loved stadium convey a lack of first class leadership and passion. NO WONDER fans have been divided between trying to be positive and suorting the hierarchy - and posting realistically about the folly of following the business model without taking into account the fans and the big picture. WAKE UP MUST DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT SFC - mediocrity - cup exits - and the spectre of fighting for 40 points beckon. RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN. NO FEAR - NO SURRENDER. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON[/p][/quote]Christ. Can't imagine what you were like in the 90s when we were fighting relegation every season![/p][/quote]Thanks for the Post - as we get to the heart of the BIG ISSUE. Why in 2014 should we return to being a club fighting Relegation every year because if that is what is on offer - a whole generation of fans will switch off after being sold short by the Club. WE FIGHT FOR EUROPE - WE FIGHT A WEMBLEY APPEARANCE.[/p][/quote]Remind me why we didn't get to Wembley last year,was it our choice of goal keeper for the cup games, was it the previous manager seeming lack of interest in the game against Sunderland?? fascia123
  • Score: 2

1:50pm Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Just taken from sky, interesting to hear how Cech is dealing with the same set of circumstances.

Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho admits Petr Cech may not be entirely happy at finding himself out of the team, but says there has been no rocking of the boat from the Czech keeper.

Chelsea FC
@chelseafc
Jose: 'Petr is a top professional, he's been working as always. His behaviour has been fantastic.' #CFC
Aug. 22, 2014ReplyRetweetFavo
rite
Just taken from sky, interesting to hear how Cech is dealing with the same set of circumstances. Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho admits Petr Cech may not be entirely happy at finding himself out of the team, but says there has been no rocking of the boat from the Czech keeper. Chelsea FC @chelseafc Jose: 'Petr is a top professional, he's been working as always. His behaviour has been fantastic.' #CFC Aug. 22, 2014ReplyRetweetFavo rite fascia123
  • Score: 0

1:52pm Fri 22 Aug 14

wrypop says...

Boruc was always a calamity waiting to happen and a good keeper in between. This was true at Celtic and now here. Good luck to him and best wishes for a new start somewhere. Clubs don't buy Keepers costing 10 million to sit on the bench. Finally, Southampton Legend u really must calm down - I don't blame u for your nonsensical diatribe, as either your GP has failed to sort your medication out, or your dad has lowered the access controls to his computer. Calm down dear.
Boruc was always a calamity waiting to happen and a good keeper in between. This was true at Celtic and now here. Good luck to him and best wishes for a new start somewhere. Clubs don't buy Keepers costing 10 million to sit on the bench. Finally, Southampton Legend u really must calm down - I don't blame u for your nonsensical diatribe, as either your GP has failed to sort your medication out, or your dad has lowered the access controls to his computer. Calm down dear. wrypop
  • Score: 0

1:57pm Fri 22 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

right back in the bar wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
Usual hysterics I see. In hindsight ladies I agree it was probably a mistake to select Forster straightaway but doesn't anyone share RK's belief that Forster is a better keeper? Boruc's reaction is typically over the top - if he as good as he thinks he is he should fight for his place and show some belief that opportunities will come his way.
Why is it hysterics? We know how volatile Boruc is and that's why several posted last week that he should play against Liverpool as he has done nothing to lose his place. Long term Fortser will obviously replace him. Boruc's reaction was so predictable a few of us predicted it! We are trying to build a squad that has two top options for each position but each time we get past GO we slip backwards again.
I was referring to the hysterics of the posters on here madam - including you actually who just see this as another example of how badly things are being managed at the football club when it is just another footballer with an outsize ego throwing toys out of the pram.
No hysterics here. Simply stating that we need to keep our best fringe players and that they should feel being a fringe player at Southampton is not such a bad place to be. Boruc fits the profile of a great number two keeper that any decent club should have in reserve. That's why I'd like us to keep him.

Similarly to Spider I think he's one who should be asked to knuckle down and wait until a time when the club is in a stable position to let its senior players leave, knowing we have a quality replacement with other players bedded in.

If the club disagree that's fine, but if it is hysterical to say that Gazza or Davis aren't as good as Boruc then I'm happy to be hysterical.
[quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: Usual hysterics I see. In hindsight ladies I agree it was probably a mistake to select Forster straightaway but doesn't anyone share RK's belief that Forster is a better keeper? Boruc's reaction is typically over the top - if he as good as he thinks he is he should fight for his place and show some belief that opportunities will come his way.[/p][/quote]Why is it hysterics? We know how volatile Boruc is and that's why several posted last week that he should play against Liverpool as he has done nothing to lose his place. Long term Fortser will obviously replace him. Boruc's reaction was so predictable a few of us predicted it! We are trying to build a squad that has two top options for each position but each time we get past GO we slip backwards again.[/p][/quote]I was referring to the hysterics of the posters on here madam - including you actually who just see this as another example of how badly things are being managed at the football club when it is just another footballer with an outsize ego throwing toys out of the pram.[/p][/quote]No hysterics here. Simply stating that we need to keep our best fringe players and that they should feel being a fringe player at Southampton is not such a bad place to be. Boruc fits the profile of a great number two keeper that any decent club should have in reserve. That's why I'd like us to keep him. Similarly to Spider I think he's one who should be asked to knuckle down and wait until a time when the club is in a stable position to let its senior players leave, knowing we have a quality replacement with other players bedded in. If the club disagree that's fine, but if it is hysterical to say that Gazza or Davis aren't as good as Boruc then I'm happy to be hysterical. SaintJD
  • Score: 2

2:01pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

Rising_Son wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This is endemic as to the problems at SFC.

ARTUR is popular and very good. In 2014 the Management are unable to manage.

We wanted 2 x Number 1 Keepers for the League and the Cup and Fans will be sad that we cannot even seem to achieve this.

WE had the FIGHT from League One - and now fans are **** off as the Club seem to lack the ambitions of the Fans.

KEEP ARTUR and rotate him to give him plenty of playing time with Fraser.

COYR+WS
There is no room for sentiment or popularity. We need stability at the back. If Artur wants to go for footballing reasons then fair enough.

If anything it is good management looking out for his interests and keeping harmony and stability, also building for the future.
Definitely, what would of happened mid season if the change were made and AB decided he wasn't going to play second fiddle, manage the situation now and deal with it and that is exactly what. RK has done.
Yes, and I cannot for the life of think why we would want to rotate keepers - that would not help anybody settle especially with the eccentricity of Boruc at times. We have a 10 million keeper, now he needs an understudy.
We will be back to Davis who is **** and slow and Gazza who does not have the confidence of the fans.

Maybe Crody Cropper can step up - he is better than Gazza.

We will exit the Cups without a decent Keeper and we HAVE MORE AMBITION than that - otherwise why would fans continue to go to the Cup Games and Travel Away.

WEMBLEY for the MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.
Do you make a lot of money betting on you predictions?
Foot, I'm pretty sure if you put your arguments to Boruc he would say something along the lines of; I'm 34 and I just want to play football for the next 4 years. That is good enough for me. Let him go, get a few quid then look into an understudy for Boruc. He want to play for his country and won't do that playing League Cup for Saints! Good and applaudable man management.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This is endemic as to the problems at SFC. ARTUR is popular and very good. In 2014 the Management are unable to manage. We wanted 2 x Number 1 Keepers for the League and the Cup and Fans will be sad that we cannot even seem to achieve this. WE had the FIGHT from League One - and now fans are **** off as the Club seem to lack the ambitions of the Fans. KEEP ARTUR and rotate him to give him plenty of playing time with Fraser. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]There is no room for sentiment or popularity. We need stability at the back. If Artur wants to go for footballing reasons then fair enough. If anything it is good management looking out for his interests and keeping harmony and stability, also building for the future.[/p][/quote]Definitely, what would of happened mid season if the change were made and AB decided he wasn't going to play second fiddle, manage the situation now and deal with it and that is exactly what. RK has done.[/p][/quote]Yes, and I cannot for the life of think why we would want to rotate keepers - that would not help anybody settle especially with the eccentricity of Boruc at times. We have a 10 million keeper, now he needs an understudy.[/p][/quote]We will be back to Davis who is **** and slow and Gazza who does not have the confidence of the fans. Maybe Crody Cropper can step up - he is better than Gazza. We will exit the Cups without a decent Keeper and we HAVE MORE AMBITION than that - otherwise why would fans continue to go to the Cup Games and Travel Away. WEMBLEY for the MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.[/p][/quote]Do you make a lot of money betting on you predictions?[/p][/quote]Foot, I'm pretty sure if you put your arguments to Boruc he would say something along the lines of; I'm 34 and I just want to play football for the next 4 years. That is good enough for me. Let him go, get a few quid then look into an understudy for Boruc. He want to play for his country and won't do that playing League Cup for Saints! Good and applaudable man management. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 2

2:10pm Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This is endemic as to the problems at SFC.

ARTUR is popular and very good. In 2014 the Management are unable to manage.

We wanted 2 x Number 1 Keepers for the League and the Cup and Fans will be sad that we cannot even seem to achieve this.

WE had the FIGHT from League One - and now fans are **** off as the Club seem to lack the ambitions of the Fans.

KEEP ARTUR and rotate him to give him plenty of playing time with Fraser.

COYR+WS
There is no room for sentiment or popularity. We need stability at the back. If Artur wants to go for footballing reasons then fair enough.

If anything it is good management looking out for his interests and keeping harmony and stability, also building for the future.
Definitely, what would of happened mid season if the change were made and AB decided he wasn't going to play second fiddle, manage the situation now and deal with it and that is exactly what. RK has done.
Yes, and I cannot for the life of think why we would want to rotate keepers - that would not help anybody settle especially with the eccentricity of Boruc at times. We have a 10 million keeper, now he needs an understudy.
We will be back to Davis who is **** and slow and Gazza who does not have the confidence of the fans.

Maybe Crody Cropper can step up - he is better than Gazza.

We will exit the Cups without a decent Keeper and we HAVE MORE AMBITION than that - otherwise why would fans continue to go to the Cup Games and Travel Away.

WEMBLEY for the MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.
Do you make a lot of money betting on you predictions?
Foot, I'm pretty sure if you put your arguments to Boruc he would say something along the lines of; I'm 34 and I just want to play football for the next 4 years. That is good enough for me. Let him go, get a few quid then look into an understudy for Boruc. He want to play for his country and won't do that playing League Cup for Saints! Good and applaudable man management.
Is Massimo Taibi available as FF understudy?
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This is endemic as to the problems at SFC. ARTUR is popular and very good. In 2014 the Management are unable to manage. We wanted 2 x Number 1 Keepers for the League and the Cup and Fans will be sad that we cannot even seem to achieve this. WE had the FIGHT from League One - and now fans are **** off as the Club seem to lack the ambitions of the Fans. KEEP ARTUR and rotate him to give him plenty of playing time with Fraser. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]There is no room for sentiment or popularity. We need stability at the back. If Artur wants to go for footballing reasons then fair enough. If anything it is good management looking out for his interests and keeping harmony and stability, also building for the future.[/p][/quote]Definitely, what would of happened mid season if the change were made and AB decided he wasn't going to play second fiddle, manage the situation now and deal with it and that is exactly what. RK has done.[/p][/quote]Yes, and I cannot for the life of think why we would want to rotate keepers - that would not help anybody settle especially with the eccentricity of Boruc at times. We have a 10 million keeper, now he needs an understudy.[/p][/quote]We will be back to Davis who is **** and slow and Gazza who does not have the confidence of the fans. Maybe Crody Cropper can step up - he is better than Gazza. We will exit the Cups without a decent Keeper and we HAVE MORE AMBITION than that - otherwise why would fans continue to go to the Cup Games and Travel Away. WEMBLEY for the MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.[/p][/quote]Do you make a lot of money betting on you predictions?[/p][/quote]Foot, I'm pretty sure if you put your arguments to Boruc he would say something along the lines of; I'm 34 and I just want to play football for the next 4 years. That is good enough for me. Let him go, get a few quid then look into an understudy for Boruc. He want to play for his country and won't do that playing League Cup for Saints! Good and applaudable man management.[/p][/quote]Is Massimo Taibi available as FF understudy? fascia123
  • Score: -1

2:11pm Fri 22 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This is endemic as to the problems at SFC.

ARTUR is popular and very good. In 2014 the Management are unable to manage.

We wanted 2 x Number 1 Keepers for the League and the Cup and Fans will be sad that we cannot even seem to achieve this.

WE had the FIGHT from League One - and now fans are **** off as the Club seem to lack the ambitions of the Fans.

KEEP ARTUR and rotate him to give him plenty of playing time with Fraser.

COYR+WS
There is no room for sentiment or popularity. We need stability at the back. If Artur wants to go for footballing reasons then fair enough.

If anything it is good management looking out for his interests and keeping harmony and stability, also building for the future.
Definitely, what would of happened mid season if the change were made and AB decided he wasn't going to play second fiddle, manage the situation now and deal with it and that is exactly what. RK has done.
Yes, and I cannot for the life of think why we would want to rotate keepers - that would not help anybody settle especially with the eccentricity of Boruc at times. We have a 10 million keeper, now he needs an understudy.
We will be back to Davis who is **** and slow and Gazza who does not have the confidence of the fans.

Maybe Crody Cropper can step up - he is better than Gazza.

We will exit the Cups without a decent Keeper and we HAVE MORE AMBITION than that - otherwise why would fans continue to go to the Cup Games and Travel Away.

WEMBLEY for the MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.
Do you make a lot of money betting on you predictions?
Foot, I'm pretty sure if you put your arguments to Boruc he would say something along the lines of; I'm 34 and I just want to play football for the next 4 years. That is good enough for me. Let him go, get a few quid then look into an understudy for Boruc. He want to play for his country and won't do that playing League Cup for Saints! Good and applaudable man management.
Sure - For me it's not about just what the Payer wants otherwise we would have let Spideman GO.

We have Players contracted to SFC - and we should do what is in the best interests of SFC - and as a fan that is the best interests of good football for the highest League Position and winning Siverware.
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This is endemic as to the problems at SFC. ARTUR is popular and very good. In 2014 the Management are unable to manage. We wanted 2 x Number 1 Keepers for the League and the Cup and Fans will be sad that we cannot even seem to achieve this. WE had the FIGHT from League One - and now fans are **** off as the Club seem to lack the ambitions of the Fans. KEEP ARTUR and rotate him to give him plenty of playing time with Fraser. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]There is no room for sentiment or popularity. We need stability at the back. If Artur wants to go for footballing reasons then fair enough. If anything it is good management looking out for his interests and keeping harmony and stability, also building for the future.[/p][/quote]Definitely, what would of happened mid season if the change were made and AB decided he wasn't going to play second fiddle, manage the situation now and deal with it and that is exactly what. RK has done.[/p][/quote]Yes, and I cannot for the life of think why we would want to rotate keepers - that would not help anybody settle especially with the eccentricity of Boruc at times. We have a 10 million keeper, now he needs an understudy.[/p][/quote]We will be back to Davis who is **** and slow and Gazza who does not have the confidence of the fans. Maybe Crody Cropper can step up - he is better than Gazza. We will exit the Cups without a decent Keeper and we HAVE MORE AMBITION than that - otherwise why would fans continue to go to the Cup Games and Travel Away. WEMBLEY for the MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.[/p][/quote]Do you make a lot of money betting on you predictions?[/p][/quote]Foot, I'm pretty sure if you put your arguments to Boruc he would say something along the lines of; I'm 34 and I just want to play football for the next 4 years. That is good enough for me. Let him go, get a few quid then look into an understudy for Boruc. He want to play for his country and won't do that playing League Cup for Saints! Good and applaudable man management.[/p][/quote]Sure - For me it's not about just what the Payer wants otherwise we would have let Spideman GO. We have Players contracted to SFC - and we should do what is in the best interests of SFC - and as a fan that is the best interests of good football for the highest League Position and winning Siverware. The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: -1

2:17pm Fri 22 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
SouthamptonLegend wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote: Warrens - Seed - Hedge End Bob - Costa Gaz and the many others ..... WE have been on this remarkable journey since League One when Barnard was firing shots over the bar pre-game and we lost to Swindon at home. The FAN BASE galvanised under RED ARMY and we took the fight Home and Away through the Leagues to the premiership with a high of 3rd last season and finished 8th. We were at Plymouth AWAY - in the snow at Birmingham AWAY - and our fantastic Supporters drove the Team to Victory and the football community got to know our brand and that we meant business ... WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON And under that banner - we chanted that we were off to Brazil at west Ham away last season and our FAIR CITY Thad no better representation that our passionate fans. The SUMMER has been shocking with all the school boy errors - ( letting lambert go was one - and he made the difference vs pool last week and for just 4 million) NOW after asking for two first class keepers and having to endure all the lost points and Cup exits - we get Fraser Forster and seem incapable of managing two first class keepers. FANS DISPAIR at recent events - no wonder Season ticket Sales are down - even the posters outside our loved stadium convey a lack of first class leadership and passion. NO WONDER fans have been divided between trying to be positive and suorting the hierarchy - and posting realistically about the folly of following the business model without taking into account the fans and the big picture. WAKE UP MUST DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT SFC - mediocrity - cup exits - and the spectre of fighting for 40 points beckon. RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN. NO FEAR - NO SURRENDER. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON
Christ. Can't imagine what you were like in the 90s when we were fighting relegation every season!
Thanks for the Post - as we get to the heart of the BIG ISSUE.

Why in 2014 should we return to being a club fighting Relegation every year because if that is what is on offer - a whole generation of fans will switch off after being sold short by the Club.

WE FIGHT FOR EUROPE - WE FIGHT A WEMBLEY APPEARANCE.
Remind me why we didn't get to Wembley last year,was it our choice of goal keeper for the cup games, was it the previous manager seeming lack of interest in the game against Sunderland??
The Manager etc was culpable ...

however putting Davis between the sticks is asking for a Cup Exit - especially when playing a Championship Team Away or Prem Team Home and Away and giving away League Points.

I argue that keeping Fraser and Artur is in the best interests of achievement for Southampton Football Club.

Having fraser injured and having one of our other Goalkeepers - is just throwing away valuable Points - throwing Games - and throwing another Season in the Cups.

WE WANT to improve year on year - rather than taking 3 steps back and only 1 or 2 forward.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: Warrens - Seed - Hedge End Bob - Costa Gaz and the many others ..... WE have been on this remarkable journey since League One when Barnard was firing shots over the bar pre-game and we lost to Swindon at home. The FAN BASE galvanised under RED ARMY and we took the fight Home and Away through the Leagues to the premiership with a high of 3rd last season and finished 8th. We were at Plymouth AWAY - in the snow at Birmingham AWAY - and our fantastic Supporters drove the Team to Victory and the football community got to know our brand and that we meant business ... WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON And under that banner - we chanted that we were off to Brazil at west Ham away last season and our FAIR CITY Thad no better representation that our passionate fans. The SUMMER has been shocking with all the school boy errors - ( letting lambert go was one - and he made the difference vs pool last week and for just 4 million) NOW after asking for two first class keepers and having to endure all the lost points and Cup exits - we get Fraser Forster and seem incapable of managing two first class keepers. FANS DISPAIR at recent events - no wonder Season ticket Sales are down - even the posters outside our loved stadium convey a lack of first class leadership and passion. NO WONDER fans have been divided between trying to be positive and suorting the hierarchy - and posting realistically about the folly of following the business model without taking into account the fans and the big picture. WAKE UP MUST DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT SFC - mediocrity - cup exits - and the spectre of fighting for 40 points beckon. RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN. NO FEAR - NO SURRENDER. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON[/p][/quote]Christ. Can't imagine what you were like in the 90s when we were fighting relegation every season![/p][/quote]Thanks for the Post - as we get to the heart of the BIG ISSUE. Why in 2014 should we return to being a club fighting Relegation every year because if that is what is on offer - a whole generation of fans will switch off after being sold short by the Club. WE FIGHT FOR EUROPE - WE FIGHT A WEMBLEY APPEARANCE.[/p][/quote]Remind me why we didn't get to Wembley last year,was it our choice of goal keeper for the cup games, was it the previous manager seeming lack of interest in the game against Sunderland??[/p][/quote]The Manager etc was culpable ... however putting Davis between the sticks is asking for a Cup Exit - especially when playing a Championship Team Away or Prem Team Home and Away and giving away League Points. I argue that keeping Fraser and Artur is in the best interests of achievement for Southampton Football Club. Having fraser injured and having one of our other Goalkeepers - is just throwing away valuable Points - throwing Games - and throwing another Season in the Cups. WE WANT to improve year on year - rather than taking 3 steps back and only 1 or 2 forward. The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: -1

2:20pm Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
SouthamptonLegend wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote: Warrens - Seed - Hedge End Bob - Costa Gaz and the many others ..... WE have been on this remarkable journey since League One when Barnard was firing shots over the bar pre-game and we lost to Swindon at home. The FAN BASE galvanised under RED ARMY and we took the fight Home and Away through the Leagues to the premiership with a high of 3rd last season and finished 8th. We were at Plymouth AWAY - in the snow at Birmingham AWAY - and our fantastic Supporters drove the Team to Victory and the football community got to know our brand and that we meant business ... WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON And under that banner - we chanted that we were off to Brazil at west Ham away last season and our FAIR CITY Thad no better representation that our passionate fans. The SUMMER has been shocking with all the school boy errors - ( letting lambert go was one - and he made the difference vs pool last week and for just 4 million) NOW after asking for two first class keepers and having to endure all the lost points and Cup exits - we get Fraser Forster and seem incapable of managing two first class keepers. FANS DISPAIR at recent events - no wonder Season ticket Sales are down - even the posters outside our loved stadium convey a lack of first class leadership and passion. NO WONDER fans have been divided between trying to be positive and suorting the hierarchy - and posting realistically about the folly of following the business model without taking into account the fans and the big picture. WAKE UP MUST DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT SFC - mediocrity - cup exits - and the spectre of fighting for 40 points beckon. RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN. NO FEAR - NO SURRENDER. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON
Christ. Can't imagine what you were like in the 90s when we were fighting relegation every season!
Thanks for the Post - as we get to the heart of the BIG ISSUE.

Why in 2014 should we return to being a club fighting Relegation every year because if that is what is on offer - a whole generation of fans will switch off after being sold short by the Club.

WE FIGHT FOR EUROPE - WE FIGHT A WEMBLEY APPEARANCE.
Remind me why we didn't get to Wembley last year,was it our choice of goal keeper for the cup games, was it the previous manager seeming lack of interest in the game against Sunderland??
The Manager etc was culpable ...

however putting Davis between the sticks is asking for a Cup Exit - especially when playing a Championship Team Away or Prem Team Home and Away and giving away League Points.

I argue that keeping Fraser and Artur is in the best interests of achievement for Southampton Football Club.

Having fraser injured and having one of our other Goalkeepers - is just throwing away valuable Points - throwing Games - and throwing another Season in the Cups.

WE WANT to improve year on year - rather than taking 3 steps back and only 1 or 2 forward.
We agree on most if not all your points and our love of SFC I would suspect but Boruc doesn't want to even sit on the bench and prove his worth so RK can only do what's in the best interest of the club and move him on.
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: Warrens - Seed - Hedge End Bob - Costa Gaz and the many others ..... WE have been on this remarkable journey since League One when Barnard was firing shots over the bar pre-game and we lost to Swindon at home. The FAN BASE galvanised under RED ARMY and we took the fight Home and Away through the Leagues to the premiership with a high of 3rd last season and finished 8th. We were at Plymouth AWAY - in the snow at Birmingham AWAY - and our fantastic Supporters drove the Team to Victory and the football community got to know our brand and that we meant business ... WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON And under that banner - we chanted that we were off to Brazil at west Ham away last season and our FAIR CITY Thad no better representation that our passionate fans. The SUMMER has been shocking with all the school boy errors - ( letting lambert go was one - and he made the difference vs pool last week and for just 4 million) NOW after asking for two first class keepers and having to endure all the lost points and Cup exits - we get Fraser Forster and seem incapable of managing two first class keepers. FANS DISPAIR at recent events - no wonder Season ticket Sales are down - even the posters outside our loved stadium convey a lack of first class leadership and passion. NO WONDER fans have been divided between trying to be positive and suorting the hierarchy - and posting realistically about the folly of following the business model without taking into account the fans and the big picture. WAKE UP MUST DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT SFC - mediocrity - cup exits - and the spectre of fighting for 40 points beckon. RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN. NO FEAR - NO SURRENDER. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON[/p][/quote]Christ. Can't imagine what you were like in the 90s when we were fighting relegation every season![/p][/quote]Thanks for the Post - as we get to the heart of the BIG ISSUE. Why in 2014 should we return to being a club fighting Relegation every year because if that is what is on offer - a whole generation of fans will switch off after being sold short by the Club. WE FIGHT FOR EUROPE - WE FIGHT A WEMBLEY APPEARANCE.[/p][/quote]Remind me why we didn't get to Wembley last year,was it our choice of goal keeper for the cup games, was it the previous manager seeming lack of interest in the game against Sunderland??[/p][/quote]The Manager etc was culpable ... however putting Davis between the sticks is asking for a Cup Exit - especially when playing a Championship Team Away or Prem Team Home and Away and giving away League Points. I argue that keeping Fraser and Artur is in the best interests of achievement for Southampton Football Club. Having fraser injured and having one of our other Goalkeepers - is just throwing away valuable Points - throwing Games - and throwing another Season in the Cups. WE WANT to improve year on year - rather than taking 3 steps back and only 1 or 2 forward.[/p][/quote]We agree on most if not all your points and our love of SFC I would suspect but Boruc doesn't want to even sit on the bench and prove his worth so RK can only do what's in the best interest of the club and move him on. fascia123
  • Score: 0

2:21pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
This is endemic as to the problems at SFC.

ARTUR is popular and very good. In 2014 the Management are unable to manage.

We wanted 2 x Number 1 Keepers for the League and the Cup and Fans will be sad that we cannot even seem to achieve this.

WE had the FIGHT from League One - and now fans are **** off as the Club seem to lack the ambitions of the Fans.

KEEP ARTUR and rotate him to give him plenty of playing time with Fraser.

COYR+WS
There is no room for sentiment or popularity. We need stability at the back. If Artur wants to go for footballing reasons then fair enough.

If anything it is good management looking out for his interests and keeping harmony and stability, also building for the future.
Definitely, what would of happened mid season if the change were made and AB decided he wasn't going to play second fiddle, manage the situation now and deal with it and that is exactly what. RK has done.
Yes, and I cannot for the life of think why we would want to rotate keepers - that would not help anybody settle especially with the eccentricity of Boruc at times. We have a 10 million keeper, now he needs an understudy.
We will be back to Davis who is **** and slow and Gazza who does not have the confidence of the fans.

Maybe Crody Cropper can step up - he is better than Gazza.

We will exit the Cups without a decent Keeper and we HAVE MORE AMBITION than that - otherwise why would fans continue to go to the Cup Games and Travel Away.

WEMBLEY for the MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.
Do you make a lot of money betting on you predictions?
Foot, I'm pretty sure if you put your arguments to Boruc he would say something along the lines of; I'm 34 and I just want to play football for the next 4 years. That is good enough for me. Let him go, get a few quid then look into an understudy for Boruc. He want to play for his country and won't do that playing League Cup for Saints! Good and applaudable man management.
Sure - For me it's not about just what the Payer wants otherwise we would have let Spideman GO.

We have Players contracted to SFC - and we should do what is in the best interests of SFC - and as a fan that is the best interests of good football for the highest League Position and winning Siverware.
Spider is different - he wants to leave for money and what he perceives to be a 'bigger club' and is under contract for four years - it's chalk and cheese on this occasion.
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: This is endemic as to the problems at SFC. ARTUR is popular and very good. In 2014 the Management are unable to manage. We wanted 2 x Number 1 Keepers for the League and the Cup and Fans will be sad that we cannot even seem to achieve this. WE had the FIGHT from League One - and now fans are **** off as the Club seem to lack the ambitions of the Fans. KEEP ARTUR and rotate him to give him plenty of playing time with Fraser. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]There is no room for sentiment or popularity. We need stability at the back. If Artur wants to go for footballing reasons then fair enough. If anything it is good management looking out for his interests and keeping harmony and stability, also building for the future.[/p][/quote]Definitely, what would of happened mid season if the change were made and AB decided he wasn't going to play second fiddle, manage the situation now and deal with it and that is exactly what. RK has done.[/p][/quote]Yes, and I cannot for the life of think why we would want to rotate keepers - that would not help anybody settle especially with the eccentricity of Boruc at times. We have a 10 million keeper, now he needs an understudy.[/p][/quote]We will be back to Davis who is **** and slow and Gazza who does not have the confidence of the fans. Maybe Crody Cropper can step up - he is better than Gazza. We will exit the Cups without a decent Keeper and we HAVE MORE AMBITION than that - otherwise why would fans continue to go to the Cup Games and Travel Away. WEMBLEY for the MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.[/p][/quote]Do you make a lot of money betting on you predictions?[/p][/quote]Foot, I'm pretty sure if you put your arguments to Boruc he would say something along the lines of; I'm 34 and I just want to play football for the next 4 years. That is good enough for me. Let him go, get a few quid then look into an understudy for Boruc. He want to play for his country and won't do that playing League Cup for Saints! Good and applaudable man management.[/p][/quote]Sure - For me it's not about just what the Payer wants otherwise we would have let Spideman GO. We have Players contracted to SFC - and we should do what is in the best interests of SFC - and as a fan that is the best interests of good football for the highest League Position and winning Siverware.[/p][/quote]Spider is different - he wants to leave for money and what he perceives to be a 'bigger club' and is under contract for four years - it's chalk and cheese on this occasion. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 2

2:22pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Chipster says...

I know it's off topic but methinks Brenda will regret signing that box of frogs that passes for Ballotelli, it's only going to end in Scouse tears and I can't ****ing wait! Supposedly high ethics and team harmony out the window in one hit!
I know it's off topic but methinks Brenda will regret signing that box of frogs that passes for Ballotelli, it's only going to end in Scouse tears and I can't ****ing wait! Supposedly high ethics and team harmony out the window in one hit! Chipster
  • Score: 1

2:27pm Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

On a lighter note some headlines from the regional papers, Skiverpool couldn't keep Suarez in check how the hell do they think warning Balotelli will make any difference?

Is 12 million so much for Long when his replacement from the championship is costing the same money?

Liverpool echo

Liverpool have warned Mario Balotelli he must agree to clean up his act if he's going to complete a £16million move to Anfield from AC Milan.

Hull daily mail

Hull City will have to smash their record transfer fee to land Jordan Rhodes after Blackburn Rovers slapped a £12m price tag on the striker. Tottenham defender Michael Dawson has come back onto City's radar and if the England international can iron out a few issues with Spurs, he could come to the KC.
On a lighter note some headlines from the regional papers, Skiverpool couldn't keep Suarez in check how the hell do they think warning Balotelli will make any difference? Is 12 million so much for Long when his replacement from the championship is costing the same money? Liverpool echo Liverpool have warned Mario Balotelli he must agree to clean up his act if he's going to complete a £16million move to Anfield from AC Milan. Hull daily mail Hull City will have to smash their record transfer fee to land Jordan Rhodes after Blackburn Rovers slapped a £12m price tag on the striker. Tottenham defender Michael Dawson has come back onto City's radar and if the England international can iron out a few issues with Spurs, he could come to the KC. fascia123
  • Score: 0

2:33pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

right back in the bar wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
Usual hysterics I see. In hindsight ladies I agree it was probably a mistake to select Forster straightaway but doesn't anyone share RK's belief that Forster is a better keeper? Boruc's reaction is typically over the top - if he as good as he thinks he is he should fight for his place and show some belief that opportunities will come his way.
Why is it hysterics? We know how volatile Boruc is and that's why several posted last week that he should play against Liverpool as he has done nothing to lose his place. Long term Fortser will obviously replace him. Boruc's reaction was so predictable a few of us predicted it! We are trying to build a squad that has two top options for each position but each time we get past GO we slip backwards again.
I was referring to the hysterics of the posters on here madam - including you actually who just see this as another example of how badly things are being managed at the football club when it is just another footballer with an outsize ego throwing toys out of the pram.
I know you were. And I was saying it was highly predictable and highly avoidable.

Tell me, just because someone has a different opinion why do you always feel it's acceptable to be rude?
[quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: Usual hysterics I see. In hindsight ladies I agree it was probably a mistake to select Forster straightaway but doesn't anyone share RK's belief that Forster is a better keeper? Boruc's reaction is typically over the top - if he as good as he thinks he is he should fight for his place and show some belief that opportunities will come his way.[/p][/quote]Why is it hysterics? We know how volatile Boruc is and that's why several posted last week that he should play against Liverpool as he has done nothing to lose his place. Long term Fortser will obviously replace him. Boruc's reaction was so predictable a few of us predicted it! We are trying to build a squad that has two top options for each position but each time we get past GO we slip backwards again.[/p][/quote]I was referring to the hysterics of the posters on here madam - including you actually who just see this as another example of how badly things are being managed at the football club when it is just another footballer with an outsize ego throwing toys out of the pram.[/p][/quote]I know you were. And I was saying it was highly predictable and highly avoidable. Tell me, just because someone has a different opinion why do you always feel it's acceptable to be rude? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 7

2:37pm Fri 22 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
SouthamptonLegend wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote: Warrens - Seed - Hedge End Bob - Costa Gaz and the many others ..... WE have been on this remarkable journey since League One when Barnard was firing shots over the bar pre-game and we lost to Swindon at home. The FAN BASE galvanised under RED ARMY and we took the fight Home and Away through the Leagues to the premiership with a high of 3rd last season and finished 8th. We were at Plymouth AWAY - in the snow at Birmingham AWAY - and our fantastic Supporters drove the Team to Victory and the football community got to know our brand and that we meant business ... WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON And under that banner - we chanted that we were off to Brazil at west Ham away last season and our FAIR CITY Thad no better representation that our passionate fans. The SUMMER has been shocking with all the school boy errors - ( letting lambert go was one - and he made the difference vs pool last week and for just 4 million) NOW after asking for two first class keepers and having to endure all the lost points and Cup exits - we get Fraser Forster and seem incapable of managing two first class keepers. FANS DISPAIR at recent events - no wonder Season ticket Sales are down - even the posters outside our loved stadium convey a lack of first class leadership and passion. NO WONDER fans have been divided between trying to be positive and suorting the hierarchy - and posting realistically about the folly of following the business model without taking into account the fans and the big picture. WAKE UP MUST DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT SFC - mediocrity - cup exits - and the spectre of fighting for 40 points beckon. RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN. NO FEAR - NO SURRENDER. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON
Christ. Can't imagine what you were like in the 90s when we were fighting relegation every season!
Thanks for the Post - as we get to the heart of the BIG ISSUE.

Why in 2014 should we return to being a club fighting Relegation every year because if that is what is on offer - a whole generation of fans will switch off after being sold short by the Club.

WE FIGHT FOR EUROPE - WE FIGHT A WEMBLEY APPEARANCE.
Remind me why we didn't get to Wembley last year,was it our choice of goal keeper for the cup games, was it the previous manager seeming lack of interest in the game against Sunderland??
The Manager etc was culpable ...

however putting Davis between the sticks is asking for a Cup Exit - especially when playing a Championship Team Away or Prem Team Home and Away and giving away League Points.

I argue that keeping Fraser and Artur is in the best interests of achievement for Southampton Football Club.

Having fraser injured and having one of our other Goalkeepers - is just throwing away valuable Points - throwing Games - and throwing another Season in the Cups.

WE WANT to improve year on year - rather than taking 3 steps back and only 1 or 2 forward.
We agree on most if not all your points and our love of SFC I would suspect but Boruc doesn't want to even sit on the bench and prove his worth so RK can only do what's in the best interest of the club and move him on.
OK- What is the PLAN B and C for Goalkeepers - and please do not say RK thinks Kelvin or Gazza are the answer.

I do not post about the business interests of the Club as that is for RK or Les Reed to make an announcement or communicate - they do not need a mouth piece.

We are Fans and therefore it is logical to post the fans point of view.

JOSHUA TREE - PRINCE OF WALES and KING xxFRED (Remember Brazil game in the World Cup with Lovren) for the game tomorrow.

WE NEED 3 POINTS and we need GOOD FAN SUPPORT to achieve this and very good football. A Draw will be a disappointment.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: Warrens - Seed - Hedge End Bob - Costa Gaz and the many others ..... WE have been on this remarkable journey since League One when Barnard was firing shots over the bar pre-game and we lost to Swindon at home. The FAN BASE galvanised under RED ARMY and we took the fight Home and Away through the Leagues to the premiership with a high of 3rd last season and finished 8th. We were at Plymouth AWAY - in the snow at Birmingham AWAY - and our fantastic Supporters drove the Team to Victory and the football community got to know our brand and that we meant business ... WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON And under that banner - we chanted that we were off to Brazil at west Ham away last season and our FAIR CITY Thad no better representation that our passionate fans. The SUMMER has been shocking with all the school boy errors - ( letting lambert go was one - and he made the difference vs pool last week and for just 4 million) NOW after asking for two first class keepers and having to endure all the lost points and Cup exits - we get Fraser Forster and seem incapable of managing two first class keepers. FANS DISPAIR at recent events - no wonder Season ticket Sales are down - even the posters outside our loved stadium convey a lack of first class leadership and passion. NO WONDER fans have been divided between trying to be positive and suorting the hierarchy - and posting realistically about the folly of following the business model without taking into account the fans and the big picture. WAKE UP MUST DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT SFC - mediocrity - cup exits - and the spectre of fighting for 40 points beckon. RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN. NO FEAR - NO SURRENDER. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON[/p][/quote]Christ. Can't imagine what you were like in the 90s when we were fighting relegation every season![/p][/quote]Thanks for the Post - as we get to the heart of the BIG ISSUE. Why in 2014 should we return to being a club fighting Relegation every year because if that is what is on offer - a whole generation of fans will switch off after being sold short by the Club. WE FIGHT FOR EUROPE - WE FIGHT A WEMBLEY APPEARANCE.[/p][/quote]Remind me why we didn't get to Wembley last year,was it our choice of goal keeper for the cup games, was it the previous manager seeming lack of interest in the game against Sunderland??[/p][/quote]The Manager etc was culpable ... however putting Davis between the sticks is asking for a Cup Exit - especially when playing a Championship Team Away or Prem Team Home and Away and giving away League Points. I argue that keeping Fraser and Artur is in the best interests of achievement for Southampton Football Club. Having fraser injured and having one of our other Goalkeepers - is just throwing away valuable Points - throwing Games - and throwing another Season in the Cups. WE WANT to improve year on year - rather than taking 3 steps back and only 1 or 2 forward.[/p][/quote]We agree on most if not all your points and our love of SFC I would suspect but Boruc doesn't want to even sit on the bench and prove his worth so RK can only do what's in the best interest of the club and move him on.[/p][/quote]OK- What is the PLAN B and C for Goalkeepers - and please do not say RK thinks Kelvin or Gazza are the answer. I do not post about the business interests of the Club as that is for RK or Les Reed to make an announcement or communicate - they do not need a mouth piece. We are Fans and therefore it is logical to post the fans point of view. JOSHUA TREE - PRINCE OF WALES and KING xxFRED (Remember Brazil game in the World Cup with Lovren) for the game tomorrow. WE NEED 3 POINTS and we need GOOD FAN SUPPORT to achieve this and very good football. A Draw will be a disappointment. The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 3

2:45pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Sainty saint saint says...

fascia123 wrote:
Questions as I see it, but don't seem to be getting an answer.


How should it of been dealt with?

Were we ever going to have two top options?

If they had played AB against skiverpool when would of been a good time to introduce FF?

If they had waited until after the transfer window shut and then put FF in goal and Boruc refused to be number two which he has clearly done, what position would we be in then?
My answers to these questions would be:

1. As I've said above, RK should have manged it a bit better in the press by saying something like 'They're both (or all) fighting for the no. 1 spot based on their performances in training'

2. No, the manager can have his no. 1 in his head, but he needs to motivate ALL players to battle and be willing to be proved wrong by hard work.

3. I think FF could still play vs. Liverpool as all RK would need to say was 'He was performing marginally better in training so we picked him'.

4. AB hasn't 'refused to be no. 2'. From what I've heard he just wants an EQUAL CHANCE of working his way to the no. 1 spot, something he felt he wasn't going to get because RK had said 'FF is my no. 1'.

The Chelsea situation is a perfect example of how it should be done -- Mourinho said before the season started, I think, both are competing for no. 1 spot. He then picked Courtois for the game, but Cech, although not happy, prob still feels he has an OPPORTUNITY to prove himself.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: Questions as I see it, but don't seem to be getting an answer. How should it of been dealt with? Were we ever going to have two top options? If they had played AB against skiverpool when would of been a good time to introduce FF? If they had waited until after the transfer window shut and then put FF in goal and Boruc refused to be number two which he has clearly done, what position would we be in then?[/p][/quote]My answers to these questions would be: 1. As I've said above, RK should have manged it a bit better in the press by saying something like 'They're both (or all) fighting for the no. 1 spot based on their performances in training' 2. No, the manager can have his no. 1 in his head, but he needs to motivate ALL players to battle and be willing to be proved wrong by hard work. 3. I think FF could still play vs. Liverpool as all RK would need to say was 'He was performing marginally better in training so we picked him'. 4. AB hasn't 'refused to be no. 2'. From what I've heard he just wants an EQUAL CHANCE of working his way to the no. 1 spot, something he felt he wasn't going to get because RK had said 'FF is my no. 1'. The Chelsea situation is a perfect example of how it should be done -- Mourinho said before the season started, I think, both are competing for no. 1 spot. He then picked Courtois for the game, but Cech, although not happy, prob still feels he has an OPPORTUNITY to prove himself. Sainty saint saint
  • Score: 1

2:50pm Fri 22 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Questions as I see it, but don't seem to be getting an answer.


How should it of been dealt with?

Were we ever going to have two top options?

If they had played AB against skiverpool when would of been a good time to introduce FF?

If they had waited until after the transfer window shut and then put FF in goal and Boruc refused to be number two which he has clearly done, what position would we be in then?
My answers to these questions would be:

1. As I've said above, RK should have manged it a bit better in the press by saying something like 'They're both (or all) fighting for the no. 1 spot based on their performances in training'

2. No, the manager can have his no. 1 in his head, but he needs to motivate ALL players to battle and be willing to be proved wrong by hard work.

3. I think FF could still play vs. Liverpool as all RK would need to say was 'He was performing marginally better in training so we picked him'.

4. AB hasn't 'refused to be no. 2'. From what I've heard he just wants an EQUAL CHANCE of working his way to the no. 1 spot, something he felt he wasn't going to get because RK had said 'FF is my no. 1'.

The Chelsea situation is a perfect example of how it should be done -- Mourinho said before the season started, I think, both are competing for no. 1 spot. He then picked Courtois for the game, but Cech, although not happy, prob still feels he has an OPPORTUNITY to prove himself.
Much as I don't like to post about a Manager of another Club - Mourinho is a GOOD Man Manager. COYR+WS
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: Questions as I see it, but don't seem to be getting an answer. How should it of been dealt with? Were we ever going to have two top options? If they had played AB against skiverpool when would of been a good time to introduce FF? If they had waited until after the transfer window shut and then put FF in goal and Boruc refused to be number two which he has clearly done, what position would we be in then?[/p][/quote]My answers to these questions would be: 1. As I've said above, RK should have manged it a bit better in the press by saying something like 'They're both (or all) fighting for the no. 1 spot based on their performances in training' 2. No, the manager can have his no. 1 in his head, but he needs to motivate ALL players to battle and be willing to be proved wrong by hard work. 3. I think FF could still play vs. Liverpool as all RK would need to say was 'He was performing marginally better in training so we picked him'. 4. AB hasn't 'refused to be no. 2'. From what I've heard he just wants an EQUAL CHANCE of working his way to the no. 1 spot, something he felt he wasn't going to get because RK had said 'FF is my no. 1'. The Chelsea situation is a perfect example of how it should be done -- Mourinho said before the season started, I think, both are competing for no. 1 spot. He then picked Courtois for the game, but Cech, although not happy, prob still feels he has an OPPORTUNITY to prove himself.[/p][/quote]Much as I don't like to post about a Manager of another Club - Mourinho is a GOOD Man Manager. COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 1

2:53pm Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
SouthamptonLegend wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote: Warrens - Seed - Hedge End Bob - Costa Gaz and the many others ..... WE have been on this remarkable journey since League One when Barnard was firing shots over the bar pre-game and we lost to Swindon at home. The FAN BASE galvanised under RED ARMY and we took the fight Home and Away through the Leagues to the premiership with a high of 3rd last season and finished 8th. We were at Plymouth AWAY - in the snow at Birmingham AWAY - and our fantastic Supporters drove the Team to Victory and the football community got to know our brand and that we meant business ... WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON And under that banner - we chanted that we were off to Brazil at west Ham away last season and our FAIR CITY Thad no better representation that our passionate fans. The SUMMER has been shocking with all the school boy errors - ( letting lambert go was one - and he made the difference vs pool last week and for just 4 million) NOW after asking for two first class keepers and having to endure all the lost points and Cup exits - we get Fraser Forster and seem incapable of managing two first class keepers. FANS DISPAIR at recent events - no wonder Season ticket Sales are down - even the posters outside our loved stadium convey a lack of first class leadership and passion. NO WONDER fans have been divided between trying to be positive and suorting the hierarchy - and posting realistically about the folly of following the business model without taking into account the fans and the big picture. WAKE UP MUST DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT SFC - mediocrity - cup exits - and the spectre of fighting for 40 points beckon. RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN. NO FEAR - NO SURRENDER. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON
Christ. Can't imagine what you were like in the 90s when we were fighting relegation every season!
Thanks for the Post - as we get to the heart of the BIG ISSUE.

Why in 2014 should we return to being a club fighting Relegation every year because if that is what is on offer - a whole generation of fans will switch off after being sold short by the Club.

WE FIGHT FOR EUROPE - WE FIGHT A WEMBLEY APPEARANCE.
Remind me why we didn't get to Wembley last year,was it our choice of goal keeper for the cup games, was it the previous manager seeming lack of interest in the game against Sunderland??
The Manager etc was culpable ...

however putting Davis between the sticks is asking for a Cup Exit - especially when playing a Championship Team Away or Prem Team Home and Away and giving away League Points.

I argue that keeping Fraser and Artur is in the best interests of achievement for Southampton Football Club.

Having fraser injured and having one of our other Goalkeepers - is just throwing away valuable Points - throwing Games - and throwing another Season in the Cups.

WE WANT to improve year on year - rather than taking 3 steps back and only 1 or 2 forward.
We agree on most if not all your points and our love of SFC I would suspect but Boruc doesn't want to even sit on the bench and prove his worth so RK can only do what's in the best interest of the club and move him on.
OK- What is the PLAN B and C for Goalkeepers - and please do not say RK thinks Kelvin or Gazza are the answer.

I do not post about the business interests of the Club as that is for RK or Les Reed to make an announcement or communicate - they do not need a mouth piece.

We are Fans and therefore it is logical to post the fans point of view.

JOSHUA TREE - PRINCE OF WALES and KING xxFRED (Remember Brazil game in the World Cup with Lovren) for the game tomorrow.

WE NEED 3 POINTS and we need GOOD FAN SUPPORT to achieve this and very good football. A Draw will be a disappointment.
I or you are not close enough to have an informed opinion of what plan b c or d is with the goalkeeping situation, however, surely there comes a point where we have to trust the establishment are making the right choices.

If Koeman is the man I think he is then I would think one of the following.

To bring FF in for 10 million and put him straight in the side having already weighed up AB and how he is likely to react I would hazard a guess and perhaps he doesn't rate AB as highly as we do.

Or

He already has a replacement lined up from another club.

Or

He and the goal keeping coach feel they can work on one of the other guys already at the club to come good.

Or we can take the view that the board and the manager are nothing but a load of bar stewards plotting our great clubs downfall.
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: Warrens - Seed - Hedge End Bob - Costa Gaz and the many others ..... WE have been on this remarkable journey since League One when Barnard was firing shots over the bar pre-game and we lost to Swindon at home. The FAN BASE galvanised under RED ARMY and we took the fight Home and Away through the Leagues to the premiership with a high of 3rd last season and finished 8th. We were at Plymouth AWAY - in the snow at Birmingham AWAY - and our fantastic Supporters drove the Team to Victory and the football community got to know our brand and that we meant business ... WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON And under that banner - we chanted that we were off to Brazil at west Ham away last season and our FAIR CITY Thad no better representation that our passionate fans. The SUMMER has been shocking with all the school boy errors - ( letting lambert go was one - and he made the difference vs pool last week and for just 4 million) NOW after asking for two first class keepers and having to endure all the lost points and Cup exits - we get Fraser Forster and seem incapable of managing two first class keepers. FANS DISPAIR at recent events - no wonder Season ticket Sales are down - even the posters outside our loved stadium convey a lack of first class leadership and passion. NO WONDER fans have been divided between trying to be positive and suorting the hierarchy - and posting realistically about the folly of following the business model without taking into account the fans and the big picture. WAKE UP MUST DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT SFC - mediocrity - cup exits - and the spectre of fighting for 40 points beckon. RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN. NO FEAR - NO SURRENDER. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON[/p][/quote]Christ. Can't imagine what you were like in the 90s when we were fighting relegation every season![/p][/quote]Thanks for the Post - as we get to the heart of the BIG ISSUE. Why in 2014 should we return to being a club fighting Relegation every year because if that is what is on offer - a whole generation of fans will switch off after being sold short by the Club. WE FIGHT FOR EUROPE - WE FIGHT A WEMBLEY APPEARANCE.[/p][/quote]Remind me why we didn't get to Wembley last year,was it our choice of goal keeper for the cup games, was it the previous manager seeming lack of interest in the game against Sunderland??[/p][/quote]The Manager etc was culpable ... however putting Davis between the sticks is asking for a Cup Exit - especially when playing a Championship Team Away or Prem Team Home and Away and giving away League Points. I argue that keeping Fraser and Artur is in the best interests of achievement for Southampton Football Club. Having fraser injured and having one of our other Goalkeepers - is just throwing away valuable Points - throwing Games - and throwing another Season in the Cups. WE WANT to improve year on year - rather than taking 3 steps back and only 1 or 2 forward.[/p][/quote]We agree on most if not all your points and our love of SFC I would suspect but Boruc doesn't want to even sit on the bench and prove his worth so RK can only do what's in the best interest of the club and move him on.[/p][/quote]OK- What is the PLAN B and C for Goalkeepers - and please do not say RK thinks Kelvin or Gazza are the answer. I do not post about the business interests of the Club as that is for RK or Les Reed to make an announcement or communicate - they do not need a mouth piece. We are Fans and therefore it is logical to post the fans point of view. JOSHUA TREE - PRINCE OF WALES and KING xxFRED (Remember Brazil game in the World Cup with Lovren) for the game tomorrow. WE NEED 3 POINTS and we need GOOD FAN SUPPORT to achieve this and very good football. A Draw will be a disappointment.[/p][/quote]I or you are not close enough to have an informed opinion of what plan b c or d is with the goalkeeping situation, however, surely there comes a point where we have to trust the establishment are making the right choices. If Koeman is the man I think he is then I would think one of the following. To bring FF in for 10 million and put him straight in the side having already weighed up AB and how he is likely to react I would hazard a guess and perhaps he doesn't rate AB as highly as we do. Or He already has a replacement lined up from another club. Or He and the goal keeping coach feel they can work on one of the other guys already at the club to come good. Or we can take the view that the board and the manager are nothing but a load of bar stewards plotting our great clubs downfall. fascia123
  • Score: 2

2:59pm Fri 22 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
SouthamptonLegend wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote: Warrens - Seed - Hedge End Bob - Costa Gaz and the many others ..... WE have been on this remarkable journey since League One when Barnard was firing shots over the bar pre-game and we lost to Swindon at home. The FAN BASE galvanised under RED ARMY and we took the fight Home and Away through the Leagues to the premiership with a high of 3rd last season and finished 8th. We were at Plymouth AWAY - in the snow at Birmingham AWAY - and our fantastic Supporters drove the Team to Victory and the football community got to know our brand and that we meant business ... WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON And under that banner - we chanted that we were off to Brazil at west Ham away last season and our FAIR CITY Thad no better representation that our passionate fans. The SUMMER has been shocking with all the school boy errors - ( letting lambert go was one - and he made the difference vs pool last week and for just 4 million) NOW after asking for two first class keepers and having to endure all the lost points and Cup exits - we get Fraser Forster and seem incapable of managing two first class keepers. FANS DISPAIR at recent events - no wonder Season ticket Sales are down - even the posters outside our loved stadium convey a lack of first class leadership and passion. NO WONDER fans have been divided between trying to be positive and suorting the hierarchy - and posting realistically about the folly of following the business model without taking into account the fans and the big picture. WAKE UP MUST DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT SFC - mediocrity - cup exits - and the spectre of fighting for 40 points beckon. RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN. NO FEAR - NO SURRENDER. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON
Christ. Can't imagine what you were like in the 90s when we were fighting relegation every season!
Thanks for the Post - as we get to the heart of the BIG ISSUE.

Why in 2014 should we return to being a club fighting Relegation every year because if that is what is on offer - a whole generation of fans will switch off after being sold short by the Club.

WE FIGHT FOR EUROPE - WE FIGHT A WEMBLEY APPEARANCE.
Remind me why we didn't get to Wembley last year,was it our choice of goal keeper for the cup games, was it the previous manager seeming lack of interest in the game against Sunderland??
The Manager etc was culpable ...

however putting Davis between the sticks is asking for a Cup Exit - especially when playing a Championship Team Away or Prem Team Home and Away and giving away League Points.

I argue that keeping Fraser and Artur is in the best interests of achievement for Southampton Football Club.

Having fraser injured and having one of our other Goalkeepers - is just throwing away valuable Points - throwing Games - and throwing another Season in the Cups.

WE WANT to improve year on year - rather than taking 3 steps back and only 1 or 2 forward.
We agree on most if not all your points and our love of SFC I would suspect but Boruc doesn't want to even sit on the bench and prove his worth so RK can only do what's in the best interest of the club and move him on.
OK- What is the PLAN B and C for Goalkeepers - and please do not say RK thinks Kelvin or Gazza are the answer.

I do not post about the business interests of the Club as that is for RK or Les Reed to make an announcement or communicate - they do not need a mouth piece.

We are Fans and therefore it is logical to post the fans point of view.

JOSHUA TREE - PRINCE OF WALES and KING xxFRED (Remember Brazil game in the World Cup with Lovren) for the game tomorrow.

WE NEED 3 POINTS and we need GOOD FAN SUPPORT to achieve this and very good football. A Draw will be a disappointment.
I or you are not close enough to have an informed opinion of what plan b c or d is with the goalkeeping situation, however, surely there comes a point where we have to trust the establishment are making the right choices.

If Koeman is the man I think he is then I would think one of the following.

To bring FF in for 10 million and put him straight in the side having already weighed up AB and how he is likely to react I would hazard a guess and perhaps he doesn't rate AB as highly as we do.

Or

He already has a replacement lined up from another club.

Or

He and the goal keeping coach feel they can work on one of the other guys already at the club to come good.

Or we can take the view that the board and the manager are nothing but a load of bar stewards plotting our great clubs downfall.
I LIKE the Post as it gets to the HEART of one of the other BIG SUMMER ISSUES.

Do we follow the Hierarchy of RK and LR blindly - Do we say in RK or LR we trust OR

Do they earn our TRUST with good performance and when they communicate they deliver.

NOTHING UPSET the Southampton Fans more in the Summer - than saying the Players are not for Sale and then offloading OUR TALENT.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: Warrens - Seed - Hedge End Bob - Costa Gaz and the many others ..... WE have been on this remarkable journey since League One when Barnard was firing shots over the bar pre-game and we lost to Swindon at home. The FAN BASE galvanised under RED ARMY and we took the fight Home and Away through the Leagues to the premiership with a high of 3rd last season and finished 8th. We were at Plymouth AWAY - in the snow at Birmingham AWAY - and our fantastic Supporters drove the Team to Victory and the football community got to know our brand and that we meant business ... WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON And under that banner - we chanted that we were off to Brazil at west Ham away last season and our FAIR CITY Thad no better representation that our passionate fans. The SUMMER has been shocking with all the school boy errors - ( letting lambert go was one - and he made the difference vs pool last week and for just 4 million) NOW after asking for two first class keepers and having to endure all the lost points and Cup exits - we get Fraser Forster and seem incapable of managing two first class keepers. FANS DISPAIR at recent events - no wonder Season ticket Sales are down - even the posters outside our loved stadium convey a lack of first class leadership and passion. NO WONDER fans have been divided between trying to be positive and suorting the hierarchy - and posting realistically about the folly of following the business model without taking into account the fans and the big picture. WAKE UP MUST DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT SFC - mediocrity - cup exits - and the spectre of fighting for 40 points beckon. RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN. NO FEAR - NO SURRENDER. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON[/p][/quote]Christ. Can't imagine what you were like in the 90s when we were fighting relegation every season![/p][/quote]Thanks for the Post - as we get to the heart of the BIG ISSUE. Why in 2014 should we return to being a club fighting Relegation every year because if that is what is on offer - a whole generation of fans will switch off after being sold short by the Club. WE FIGHT FOR EUROPE - WE FIGHT A WEMBLEY APPEARANCE.[/p][/quote]Remind me why we didn't get to Wembley last year,was it our choice of goal keeper for the cup games, was it the previous manager seeming lack of interest in the game against Sunderland??[/p][/quote]The Manager etc was culpable ... however putting Davis between the sticks is asking for a Cup Exit - especially when playing a Championship Team Away or Prem Team Home and Away and giving away League Points. I argue that keeping Fraser and Artur is in the best interests of achievement for Southampton Football Club. Having fraser injured and having one of our other Goalkeepers - is just throwing away valuable Points - throwing Games - and throwing another Season in the Cups. WE WANT to improve year on year - rather than taking 3 steps back and only 1 or 2 forward.[/p][/quote]We agree on most if not all your points and our love of SFC I would suspect but Boruc doesn't want to even sit on the bench and prove his worth so RK can only do what's in the best interest of the club and move him on.[/p][/quote]OK- What is the PLAN B and C for Goalkeepers - and please do not say RK thinks Kelvin or Gazza are the answer. I do not post about the business interests of the Club as that is for RK or Les Reed to make an announcement or communicate - they do not need a mouth piece. We are Fans and therefore it is logical to post the fans point of view. JOSHUA TREE - PRINCE OF WALES and KING xxFRED (Remember Brazil game in the World Cup with Lovren) for the game tomorrow. WE NEED 3 POINTS and we need GOOD FAN SUPPORT to achieve this and very good football. A Draw will be a disappointment.[/p][/quote]I or you are not close enough to have an informed opinion of what plan b c or d is with the goalkeeping situation, however, surely there comes a point where we have to trust the establishment are making the right choices. If Koeman is the man I think he is then I would think one of the following. To bring FF in for 10 million and put him straight in the side having already weighed up AB and how he is likely to react I would hazard a guess and perhaps he doesn't rate AB as highly as we do. Or He already has a replacement lined up from another club. Or He and the goal keeping coach feel they can work on one of the other guys already at the club to come good. Or we can take the view that the board and the manager are nothing but a load of bar stewards plotting our great clubs downfall.[/p][/quote]I LIKE the Post as it gets to the HEART of one of the other BIG SUMMER ISSUES. Do we follow the Hierarchy of RK and LR blindly - Do we say in RK or LR we trust OR Do they earn our TRUST with good performance and when they communicate they deliver. NOTHING UPSET the Southampton Fans more in the Summer - than saying the Players are not for Sale and then offloading OUR TALENT. The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 3

3:07pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

Fascia said, "surely there comes a point where we have to trust the establishment are making the right choices." Of course, one choice is to trust them and another is to distrust them. A third choice is to do neither, but accept that they have the right to make thier decisions and the only real right we have is to like it or lump it.
Fascia said, "surely there comes a point where we have to trust the establishment are making the right choices." Of course, one choice is to trust them and another is to distrust them. A third choice is to do neither, but accept that they have the right to make thier decisions and the only real right we have is to like it or lump it. Rising_Son
  • Score: 2

3:11pm Fri 22 Aug 14

InsideOutCat says...

mr miyagi wrote:
Surely Artur must know, at the age of 34, he may not get another chance at a Premier League club as number one, and would accept the situation that he would be succeeded by a younger keeper, similar to Friedel when Lloris signed for Spuds.

As mentioned above, this just puts us back into the same situation as last season, with a number one, but no back up. I assume Ronald is not actually that happy with Artur wanting to leave as he states.
Nice to know that you and your psychic link are there to tell RK what he really meant to say. Fancy picking the team that he really wanted too?
[quote][p][bold]mr miyagi[/bold] wrote: Surely Artur must know, at the age of 34, he may not get another chance at a Premier League club as number one, and would accept the situation that he would be succeeded by a younger keeper, similar to Friedel when Lloris signed for Spuds. As mentioned above, this just puts us back into the same situation as last season, with a number one, but no back up. I assume Ronald is not actually that happy with Artur wanting to leave as he states.[/p][/quote]Nice to know that you and your psychic link are there to tell RK what he really meant to say. Fancy picking the team that he really wanted too? InsideOutCat
  • Score: 0

3:13pm Fri 22 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Fascia said, "surely there comes a point where we have to trust the establishment are making the right choices." Of course, one choice is to trust them and another is to distrust them. A third choice is to do neither, but accept that they have the right to make thier decisions and the only real right we have is to like it or lump it.
to like it ... to lump it ... to POST about it and like a lobbying Pressure Group try and do something about it - utilising all means including the Media.
COYR+WS
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: Fascia said, "surely there comes a point where we have to trust the establishment are making the right choices." Of course, one choice is to trust them and another is to distrust them. A third choice is to do neither, but accept that they have the right to make thier decisions and the only real right we have is to like it or lump it.[/p][/quote]to like it ... to lump it ... to POST about it and like a lobbying Pressure Group try and do something about it - utilising all means including the Media. COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 1

3:15pm Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
SouthamptonLegend wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote: Warrens - Seed - Hedge End Bob - Costa Gaz and the many others ..... WE have been on this remarkable journey since League One when Barnard was firing shots over the bar pre-game and we lost to Swindon at home. The FAN BASE galvanised under RED ARMY and we took the fight Home and Away through the Leagues to the premiership with a high of 3rd last season and finished 8th. We were at Plymouth AWAY - in the snow at Birmingham AWAY - and our fantastic Supporters drove the Team to Victory and the football community got to know our brand and that we meant business ... WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON And under that banner - we chanted that we were off to Brazil at west Ham away last season and our FAIR CITY Thad no better representation that our passionate fans. The SUMMER has been shocking with all the school boy errors - ( letting lambert go was one - and he made the difference vs pool last week and for just 4 million) NOW after asking for two first class keepers and having to endure all the lost points and Cup exits - we get Fraser Forster and seem incapable of managing two first class keepers. FANS DISPAIR at recent events - no wonder Season ticket Sales are down - even the posters outside our loved stadium convey a lack of first class leadership and passion. NO WONDER fans have been divided between trying to be positive and suorting the hierarchy - and posting realistically about the folly of following the business model without taking into account the fans and the big picture. WAKE UP MUST DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT SFC - mediocrity - cup exits - and the spectre of fighting for 40 points beckon. RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN. NO FEAR - NO SURRENDER. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON
Christ. Can't imagine what you were like in the 90s when we were fighting relegation every season!
Thanks for the Post - as we get to the heart of the BIG ISSUE.

Why in 2014 should we return to being a club fighting Relegation every year because if that is what is on offer - a whole generation of fans will switch off after being sold short by the Club.

WE FIGHT FOR EUROPE - WE FIGHT A WEMBLEY APPEARANCE.
Remind me why we didn't get to Wembley last year,was it our choice of goal keeper for the cup games, was it the previous manager seeming lack of interest in the game against Sunderland??
The Manager etc was culpable ...

however putting Davis between the sticks is asking for a Cup Exit - especially when playing a Championship Team Away or Prem Team Home and Away and giving away League Points.

I argue that keeping Fraser and Artur is in the best interests of achievement for Southampton Football Club.

Having fraser injured and having one of our other Goalkeepers - is just throwing away valuable Points - throwing Games - and throwing another Season in the Cups.

WE WANT to improve year on year - rather than taking 3 steps back and only 1 or 2 forward.
We agree on most if not all your points and our love of SFC I would suspect but Boruc doesn't want to even sit on the bench and prove his worth so RK can only do what's in the best interest of the club and move him on.
OK- What is the PLAN B and C for Goalkeepers - and please do not say RK thinks Kelvin or Gazza are the answer.

I do not post about the business interests of the Club as that is for RK or Les Reed to make an announcement or communicate - they do not need a mouth piece.

We are Fans and therefore it is logical to post the fans point of view.

JOSHUA TREE - PRINCE OF WALES and KING xxFRED (Remember Brazil game in the World Cup with Lovren) for the game tomorrow.

WE NEED 3 POINTS and we need GOOD FAN SUPPORT to achieve this and very good football. A Draw will be a disappointment.
I or you are not close enough to have an informed opinion of what plan b c or d is with the goalkeeping situation, however, surely there comes a point where we have to trust the establishment are making the right choices.

If Koeman is the man I think he is then I would think one of the following.

To bring FF in for 10 million and put him straight in the side having already weighed up AB and how he is likely to react I would hazard a guess and perhaps he doesn't rate AB as highly as we do.

Or

He already has a replacement lined up from another club.

Or

He and the goal keeping coach feel they can work on one of the other guys already at the club to come good.

Or we can take the view that the board and the manager are nothing but a load of bar stewards plotting our great clubs downfall.
I LIKE the Post as it gets to the HEART of one of the other BIG SUMMER ISSUES.

Do we follow the Hierarchy of RK and LR blindly - Do we say in RK or LR we trust OR

Do they earn our TRUST with good performance and when they communicate they deliver.

NOTHING UPSET the Southampton Fans more in the Summer - than saying the Players are not for Sale and then offloading OUR TALENT.
In my opinion yes you do, apart from a string of events that I am sure were ordained long before most of the guys making the decisions now were at the club what have they done so wrong?.

I can't see as they have done a great deal wrong for me they have turned a potential nightmare around, so if they have to earn respect or trust then they have gone a long way to doing so.

I think distortion of the truth upsets the fans and that is exactly what you have done with that comment, I believe it was said that they will do their best not to sell our players and if they were sold it would be on our terms.
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: Warrens - Seed - Hedge End Bob - Costa Gaz and the many others ..... WE have been on this remarkable journey since League One when Barnard was firing shots over the bar pre-game and we lost to Swindon at home. The FAN BASE galvanised under RED ARMY and we took the fight Home and Away through the Leagues to the premiership with a high of 3rd last season and finished 8th. We were at Plymouth AWAY - in the snow at Birmingham AWAY - and our fantastic Supporters drove the Team to Victory and the football community got to know our brand and that we meant business ... WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON And under that banner - we chanted that we were off to Brazil at west Ham away last season and our FAIR CITY Thad no better representation that our passionate fans. The SUMMER has been shocking with all the school boy errors - ( letting lambert go was one - and he made the difference vs pool last week and for just 4 million) NOW after asking for two first class keepers and having to endure all the lost points and Cup exits - we get Fraser Forster and seem incapable of managing two first class keepers. FANS DISPAIR at recent events - no wonder Season ticket Sales are down - even the posters outside our loved stadium convey a lack of first class leadership and passion. NO WONDER fans have been divided between trying to be positive and suorting the hierarchy - and posting realistically about the folly of following the business model without taking into account the fans and the big picture. WAKE UP MUST DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT SFC - mediocrity - cup exits - and the spectre of fighting for 40 points beckon. RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN. NO FEAR - NO SURRENDER. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON[/p][/quote]Christ. Can't imagine what you were like in the 90s when we were fighting relegation every season![/p][/quote]Thanks for the Post - as we get to the heart of the BIG ISSUE. Why in 2014 should we return to being a club fighting Relegation every year because if that is what is on offer - a whole generation of fans will switch off after being sold short by the Club. WE FIGHT FOR EUROPE - WE FIGHT A WEMBLEY APPEARANCE.[/p][/quote]Remind me why we didn't get to Wembley last year,was it our choice of goal keeper for the cup games, was it the previous manager seeming lack of interest in the game against Sunderland??[/p][/quote]The Manager etc was culpable ... however putting Davis between the sticks is asking for a Cup Exit - especially when playing a Championship Team Away or Prem Team Home and Away and giving away League Points. I argue that keeping Fraser and Artur is in the best interests of achievement for Southampton Football Club. Having fraser injured and having one of our other Goalkeepers - is just throwing away valuable Points - throwing Games - and throwing another Season in the Cups. WE WANT to improve year on year - rather than taking 3 steps back and only 1 or 2 forward.[/p][/quote]We agree on most if not all your points and our love of SFC I would suspect but Boruc doesn't want to even sit on the bench and prove his worth so RK can only do what's in the best interest of the club and move him on.[/p][/quote]OK- What is the PLAN B and C for Goalkeepers - and please do not say RK thinks Kelvin or Gazza are the answer. I do not post about the business interests of the Club as that is for RK or Les Reed to make an announcement or communicate - they do not need a mouth piece. We are Fans and therefore it is logical to post the fans point of view. JOSHUA TREE - PRINCE OF WALES and KING xxFRED (Remember Brazil game in the World Cup with Lovren) for the game tomorrow. WE NEED 3 POINTS and we need GOOD FAN SUPPORT to achieve this and very good football. A Draw will be a disappointment.[/p][/quote]I or you are not close enough to have an informed opinion of what plan b c or d is with the goalkeeping situation, however, surely there comes a point where we have to trust the establishment are making the right choices. If Koeman is the man I think he is then I would think one of the following. To bring FF in for 10 million and put him straight in the side having already weighed up AB and how he is likely to react I would hazard a guess and perhaps he doesn't rate AB as highly as we do. Or He already has a replacement lined up from another club. Or He and the goal keeping coach feel they can work on one of the other guys already at the club to come good. Or we can take the view that the board and the manager are nothing but a load of bar stewards plotting our great clubs downfall.[/p][/quote]I LIKE the Post as it gets to the HEART of one of the other BIG SUMMER ISSUES. Do we follow the Hierarchy of RK and LR blindly - Do we say in RK or LR we trust OR Do they earn our TRUST with good performance and when they communicate they deliver. NOTHING UPSET the Southampton Fans more in the Summer - than saying the Players are not for Sale and then offloading OUR TALENT.[/p][/quote]In my opinion yes you do, apart from a string of events that I am sure were ordained long before most of the guys making the decisions now were at the club what have they done so wrong?. I can't see as they have done a great deal wrong for me they have turned a potential nightmare around, so if they have to earn respect or trust then they have gone a long way to doing so. I think distortion of the truth upsets the fans and that is exactly what you have done with that comment, I believe it was said that they will do their best not to sell our players and if they were sold it would be on our terms. fascia123
  • Score: -2

3:18pm Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Fascia said, "surely there comes a point where we have to trust the establishment are making the right choices." Of course, one choice is to trust them and another is to distrust them. A third choice is to do neither, but accept that they have the right to make thier decisions and the only real right we have is to like it or lump it.
Ironically that's in a nutshell :-)
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: Fascia said, "surely there comes a point where we have to trust the establishment are making the right choices." Of course, one choice is to trust them and another is to distrust them. A third choice is to do neither, but accept that they have the right to make thier decisions and the only real right we have is to like it or lump it.[/p][/quote]Ironically that's in a nutshell :-) fascia123
  • Score: 25

3:18pm Fri 22 Aug 14

InsideOutCat says...

By the way, how many of the whingers on this thread are the same people who were proclaiming only a short while ago that the signing of Forster was finally proof of the club's ambition? Did you seriously think we'd pay £10m and then NOT make him first choice?
By the way, how many of the whingers on this thread are the same people who were proclaiming only a short while ago that the signing of Forster was finally proof of the club's ambition? Did you seriously think we'd pay £10m and then NOT make him first choice? InsideOutCat
  • Score: 4

3:21pm Fri 22 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
SouthamptonLegend wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote: Warrens - Seed - Hedge End Bob - Costa Gaz and the many others ..... WE have been on this remarkable journey since League One when Barnard was firing shots over the bar pre-game and we lost to Swindon at home. The FAN BASE galvanised under RED ARMY and we took the fight Home and Away through the Leagues to the premiership with a high of 3rd last season and finished 8th. We were at Plymouth AWAY - in the snow at Birmingham AWAY - and our fantastic Supporters drove the Team to Victory and the football community got to know our brand and that we meant business ... WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON And under that banner - we chanted that we were off to Brazil at west Ham away last season and our FAIR CITY Thad no better representation that our passionate fans. The SUMMER has been shocking with all the school boy errors - ( letting lambert go was one - and he made the difference vs pool last week and for just 4 million) NOW after asking for two first class keepers and having to endure all the lost points and Cup exits - we get Fraser Forster and seem incapable of managing two first class keepers. FANS DISPAIR at recent events - no wonder Season ticket Sales are down - even the posters outside our loved stadium convey a lack of first class leadership and passion. NO WONDER fans have been divided between trying to be positive and suorting the hierarchy - and posting realistically about the folly of following the business model without taking into account the fans and the big picture. WAKE UP MUST DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT SFC - mediocrity - cup exits - and the spectre of fighting for 40 points beckon. RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN. NO FEAR - NO SURRENDER. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON
Christ. Can't imagine what you were like in the 90s when we were fighting relegation every season!
Thanks for the Post - as we get to the heart of the BIG ISSUE.

Why in 2014 should we return to being a club fighting Relegation every year because if that is what is on offer - a whole generation of fans will switch off after being sold short by the Club.

WE FIGHT FOR EUROPE - WE FIGHT A WEMBLEY APPEARANCE.
Remind me why we didn't get to Wembley last year,was it our choice of goal keeper for the cup games, was it the previous manager seeming lack of interest in the game against Sunderland??
The Manager etc was culpable ...

however putting Davis between the sticks is asking for a Cup Exit - especially when playing a Championship Team Away or Prem Team Home and Away and giving away League Points.

I argue that keeping Fraser and Artur is in the best interests of achievement for Southampton Football Club.

Having fraser injured and having one of our other Goalkeepers - is just throwing away valuable Points - throwing Games - and throwing another Season in the Cups.

WE WANT to improve year on year - rather than taking 3 steps back and only 1 or 2 forward.
We agree on most if not all your points and our love of SFC I would suspect but Boruc doesn't want to even sit on the bench and prove his worth so RK can only do what's in the best interest of the club and move him on.
OK- What is the PLAN B and C for Goalkeepers - and please do not say RK thinks Kelvin or Gazza are the answer.

I do not post about the business interests of the Club as that is for RK or Les Reed to make an announcement or communicate - they do not need a mouth piece.

We are Fans and therefore it is logical to post the fans point of view.

JOSHUA TREE - PRINCE OF WALES and KING xxFRED (Remember Brazil game in the World Cup with Lovren) for the game tomorrow.

WE NEED 3 POINTS and we need GOOD FAN SUPPORT to achieve this and very good football. A Draw will be a disappointment.
I or you are not close enough to have an informed opinion of what plan b c or d is with the goalkeeping situation, however, surely there comes a point where we have to trust the establishment are making the right choices.

If Koeman is the man I think he is then I would think one of the following.

To bring FF in for 10 million and put him straight in the side having already weighed up AB and how he is likely to react I would hazard a guess and perhaps he doesn't rate AB as highly as we do.

Or

He already has a replacement lined up from another club.

Or

He and the goal keeping coach feel they can work on one of the other guys already at the club to come good.

Or we can take the view that the board and the manager are nothing but a load of bar stewards plotting our great clubs downfall.
I LIKE the Post as it gets to the HEART of one of the other BIG SUMMER ISSUES.

Do we follow the Hierarchy of RK and LR blindly - Do we say in RK or LR we trust OR

Do they earn our TRUST with good performance and when they communicate they deliver.

NOTHING UPSET the Southampton Fans more in the Summer - than saying the Players are not for Sale and then offloading OUR TALENT.
In my opinion yes you do, apart from a string of events that I am sure were ordained long before most of the guys making the decisions now were at the club what have they done so wrong?.

I can't see as they have done a great deal wrong for me they have turned a potential nightmare around, so if they have to earn respect or trust then they have gone a long way to doing so.

I think distortion of the truth upsets the fans and that is exactly what you have done with that comment, I believe it was said that they will do their best not to sell our players and if they were sold it would be on our terms.
Copied and Pasted from Media Sources .... See below.

Saints staying! Southampton WON'T sell stars to address financial issues - Ralph Krueger

SOUTHAMPTON chairman Ralph Krueger insists that the club will not be forced to sell their prize assets in the summer despite recording a £7.1 million loss for the year ending June 30, 2013.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: Warrens - Seed - Hedge End Bob - Costa Gaz and the many others ..... WE have been on this remarkable journey since League One when Barnard was firing shots over the bar pre-game and we lost to Swindon at home. The FAN BASE galvanised under RED ARMY and we took the fight Home and Away through the Leagues to the premiership with a high of 3rd last season and finished 8th. We were at Plymouth AWAY - in the snow at Birmingham AWAY - and our fantastic Supporters drove the Team to Victory and the football community got to know our brand and that we meant business ... WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON And under that banner - we chanted that we were off to Brazil at west Ham away last season and our FAIR CITY Thad no better representation that our passionate fans. The SUMMER has been shocking with all the school boy errors - ( letting lambert go was one - and he made the difference vs pool last week and for just 4 million) NOW after asking for two first class keepers and having to endure all the lost points and Cup exits - we get Fraser Forster and seem incapable of managing two first class keepers. FANS DISPAIR at recent events - no wonder Season ticket Sales are down - even the posters outside our loved stadium convey a lack of first class leadership and passion. NO WONDER fans have been divided between trying to be positive and suorting the hierarchy - and posting realistically about the folly of following the business model without taking into account the fans and the big picture. WAKE UP MUST DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT SFC - mediocrity - cup exits - and the spectre of fighting for 40 points beckon. RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN. NO FEAR - NO SURRENDER. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON[/p][/quote]Christ. Can't imagine what you were like in the 90s when we were fighting relegation every season![/p][/quote]Thanks for the Post - as we get to the heart of the BIG ISSUE. Why in 2014 should we return to being a club fighting Relegation every year because if that is what is on offer - a whole generation of fans will switch off after being sold short by the Club. WE FIGHT FOR EUROPE - WE FIGHT A WEMBLEY APPEARANCE.[/p][/quote]Remind me why we didn't get to Wembley last year,was it our choice of goal keeper for the cup games, was it the previous manager seeming lack of interest in the game against Sunderland??[/p][/quote]The Manager etc was culpable ... however putting Davis between the sticks is asking for a Cup Exit - especially when playing a Championship Team Away or Prem Team Home and Away and giving away League Points. I argue that keeping Fraser and Artur is in the best interests of achievement for Southampton Football Club. Having fraser injured and having one of our other Goalkeepers - is just throwing away valuable Points - throwing Games - and throwing another Season in the Cups. WE WANT to improve year on year - rather than taking 3 steps back and only 1 or 2 forward.[/p][/quote]We agree on most if not all your points and our love of SFC I would suspect but Boruc doesn't want to even sit on the bench and prove his worth so RK can only do what's in the best interest of the club and move him on.[/p][/quote]OK- What is the PLAN B and C for Goalkeepers - and please do not say RK thinks Kelvin or Gazza are the answer. I do not post about the business interests of the Club as that is for RK or Les Reed to make an announcement or communicate - they do not need a mouth piece. We are Fans and therefore it is logical to post the fans point of view. JOSHUA TREE - PRINCE OF WALES and KING xxFRED (Remember Brazil game in the World Cup with Lovren) for the game tomorrow. WE NEED 3 POINTS and we need GOOD FAN SUPPORT to achieve this and very good football. A Draw will be a disappointment.[/p][/quote]I or you are not close enough to have an informed opinion of what plan b c or d is with the goalkeeping situation, however, surely there comes a point where we have to trust the establishment are making the right choices. If Koeman is the man I think he is then I would think one of the following. To bring FF in for 10 million and put him straight in the side having already weighed up AB and how he is likely to react I would hazard a guess and perhaps he doesn't rate AB as highly as we do. Or He already has a replacement lined up from another club. Or He and the goal keeping coach feel they can work on one of the other guys already at the club to come good. Or we can take the view that the board and the manager are nothing but a load of bar stewards plotting our great clubs downfall.[/p][/quote]I LIKE the Post as it gets to the HEART of one of the other BIG SUMMER ISSUES. Do we follow the Hierarchy of RK and LR blindly - Do we say in RK or LR we trust OR Do they earn our TRUST with good performance and when they communicate they deliver. NOTHING UPSET the Southampton Fans more in the Summer - than saying the Players are not for Sale and then offloading OUR TALENT.[/p][/quote]In my opinion yes you do, apart from a string of events that I am sure were ordained long before most of the guys making the decisions now were at the club what have they done so wrong?. I can't see as they have done a great deal wrong for me they have turned a potential nightmare around, so if they have to earn respect or trust then they have gone a long way to doing so. I think distortion of the truth upsets the fans and that is exactly what you have done with that comment, I believe it was said that they will do their best not to sell our players and if they were sold it would be on our terms.[/p][/quote]Copied and Pasted from Media Sources .... See below. Saints staying! Southampton WON'T sell stars to address financial issues - Ralph Krueger SOUTHAMPTON chairman Ralph Krueger insists that the club will not be forced to sell their prize assets in the summer despite recording a £7.1 million loss for the year ending June 30, 2013. The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 3

3:24pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Chapperall says...

I was wondering if we are going to see Woy Hodgson you know that excuse for an England manager at St Mary's as much as last season?
Probably spend most of his time at Anfield as this is where most of the England team come from now!
Can't wait for our first home game and hopefully WBA will allow us to plsy football.
Let's hope both Long and Pele score to quieten down the critics.
I was wondering if we are going to see Woy Hodgson you know that excuse for an England manager at St Mary's as much as last season? Probably spend most of his time at Anfield as this is where most of the England team come from now! Can't wait for our first home game and hopefully WBA will allow us to plsy football. Let's hope both Long and Pele score to quieten down the critics. Chapperall
  • Score: 0

3:28pm Fri 22 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
SouthamptonLegend wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote: Warrens - Seed - Hedge End Bob - Costa Gaz and the many others ..... WE have been on this remarkable journey since League One when Barnard was firing shots over the bar pre-game and we lost to Swindon at home. The FAN BASE galvanised under RED ARMY and we took the fight Home and Away through the Leagues to the premiership with a high of 3rd last season and finished 8th. We were at Plymouth AWAY - in the snow at Birmingham AWAY - and our fantastic Supporters drove the Team to Victory and the football community got to know our brand and that we meant business ... WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON And under that banner - we chanted that we were off to Brazil at west Ham away last season and our FAIR CITY Thad no better representation that our passionate fans. The SUMMER has been shocking with all the school boy errors - ( letting lambert go was one - and he made the difference vs pool last week and for just 4 million) NOW after asking for two first class keepers and having to endure all the lost points and Cup exits - we get Fraser Forster and seem incapable of managing two first class keepers. FANS DISPAIR at recent events - no wonder Season ticket Sales are down - even the posters outside our loved stadium convey a lack of first class leadership and passion. NO WONDER fans have been divided between trying to be positive and suorting the hierarchy - and posting realistically about the folly of following the business model without taking into account the fans and the big picture. WAKE UP MUST DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT SFC - mediocrity - cup exits - and the spectre of fighting for 40 points beckon. RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN. NO FEAR - NO SURRENDER. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON
Christ. Can't imagine what you were like in the 90s when we were fighting relegation every season!
Thanks for the Post - as we get to the heart of the BIG ISSUE.

Why in 2014 should we return to being a club fighting Relegation every year because if that is what is on offer - a whole generation of fans will switch off after being sold short by the Club.

WE FIGHT FOR EUROPE - WE FIGHT A WEMBLEY APPEARANCE.
Remind me why we didn't get to Wembley last year,was it our choice of goal keeper for the cup games, was it the previous manager seeming lack of interest in the game against Sunderland??
The Manager etc was culpable ...

however putting Davis between the sticks is asking for a Cup Exit - especially when playing a Championship Team Away or Prem Team Home and Away and giving away League Points.

I argue that keeping Fraser and Artur is in the best interests of achievement for Southampton Football Club.

Having fraser injured and having one of our other Goalkeepers - is just throwing away valuable Points - throwing Games - and throwing another Season in the Cups.

WE WANT to improve year on year - rather than taking 3 steps back and only 1 or 2 forward.
We agree on most if not all your points and our love of SFC I would suspect but Boruc doesn't want to even sit on the bench and prove his worth so RK can only do what's in the best interest of the club and move him on.
OK- What is the PLAN B and C for Goalkeepers - and please do not say RK thinks Kelvin or Gazza are the answer.

I do not post about the business interests of the Club as that is for RK or Les Reed to make an announcement or communicate - they do not need a mouth piece.

We are Fans and therefore it is logical to post the fans point of view.

JOSHUA TREE - PRINCE OF WALES and KING xxFRED (Remember Brazil game in the World Cup with Lovren) for the game tomorrow.

WE NEED 3 POINTS and we need GOOD FAN SUPPORT to achieve this and very good football. A Draw will be a disappointment.
I or you are not close enough to have an informed opinion of what plan b c or d is with the goalkeeping situation, however, surely there comes a point where we have to trust the establishment are making the right choices.

If Koeman is the man I think he is then I would think one of the following.

To bring FF in for 10 million and put him straight in the side having already weighed up AB and how he is likely to react I would hazard a guess and perhaps he doesn't rate AB as highly as we do.

Or

He already has a replacement lined up from another club.

Or

He and the goal keeping coach feel they can work on one of the other guys already at the club to come good.

Or we can take the view that the board and the manager are nothing but a load of bar stewards plotting our great clubs downfall.
I LIKE the Post as it gets to the HEART of one of the other BIG SUMMER ISSUES.

Do we follow the Hierarchy of RK and LR blindly - Do we say in RK or LR we trust OR

Do they earn our TRUST with good performance and when they communicate they deliver.

NOTHING UPSET the Southampton Fans more in the Summer - than saying the Players are not for Sale and then offloading OUR TALENT.
In my opinion yes you do, apart from a string of events that I am sure were ordained long before most of the guys making the decisions now were at the club what have they done so wrong?.

I can't see as they have done a great deal wrong for me they have turned a potential nightmare around, so if they have to earn respect or trust then they have gone a long way to doing so.

I think distortion of the truth upsets the fans and that is exactly what you have done with that comment, I believe it was said that they will do their best not to sell our players and if they were sold it would be on our terms.
Copied and Pasted from Media Sources .... See below.

Saints staying! Southampton WON'T sell stars to address financial issues - Ralph Krueger

SOUTHAMPTON chairman Ralph Krueger insists that the club will not be forced to sell their prize assets in the summer despite recording a £7.1 million loss for the year ending June 30, 2013.
From Les Reed ..
As far as the policy in concerned we have had a great season, we want to build on that season, we want to improve the squad going forward, we want to retain the players we’ve got. They are all contracted, they all have existing contracts and we intend to honour those contracts.

Any enquiries we get will probably be met with a ‘no, not for sale.’ Our intention is to keep this very good team together and build on it by bringing in players to improve upon it.

WHAT HAPPENED WITH CHAMBERS UPSET SOUTHAMPTON FANS.
COYR+WS
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: Warrens - Seed - Hedge End Bob - Costa Gaz and the many others ..... WE have been on this remarkable journey since League One when Barnard was firing shots over the bar pre-game and we lost to Swindon at home. The FAN BASE galvanised under RED ARMY and we took the fight Home and Away through the Leagues to the premiership with a high of 3rd last season and finished 8th. We were at Plymouth AWAY - in the snow at Birmingham AWAY - and our fantastic Supporters drove the Team to Victory and the football community got to know our brand and that we meant business ... WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON And under that banner - we chanted that we were off to Brazil at west Ham away last season and our FAIR CITY Thad no better representation that our passionate fans. The SUMMER has been shocking with all the school boy errors - ( letting lambert go was one - and he made the difference vs pool last week and for just 4 million) NOW after asking for two first class keepers and having to endure all the lost points and Cup exits - we get Fraser Forster and seem incapable of managing two first class keepers. FANS DISPAIR at recent events - no wonder Season ticket Sales are down - even the posters outside our loved stadium convey a lack of first class leadership and passion. NO WONDER fans have been divided between trying to be positive and suorting the hierarchy - and posting realistically about the folly of following the business model without taking into account the fans and the big picture. WAKE UP MUST DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT SFC - mediocrity - cup exits - and the spectre of fighting for 40 points beckon. RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN. NO FEAR - NO SURRENDER. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON[/p][/quote]Christ. Can't imagine what you were like in the 90s when we were fighting relegation every season![/p][/quote]Thanks for the Post - as we get to the heart of the BIG ISSUE. Why in 2014 should we return to being a club fighting Relegation every year because if that is what is on offer - a whole generation of fans will switch off after being sold short by the Club. WE FIGHT FOR EUROPE - WE FIGHT A WEMBLEY APPEARANCE.[/p][/quote]Remind me why we didn't get to Wembley last year,was it our choice of goal keeper for the cup games, was it the previous manager seeming lack of interest in the game against Sunderland??[/p][/quote]The Manager etc was culpable ... however putting Davis between the sticks is asking for a Cup Exit - especially when playing a Championship Team Away or Prem Team Home and Away and giving away League Points. I argue that keeping Fraser and Artur is in the best interests of achievement for Southampton Football Club. Having fraser injured and having one of our other Goalkeepers - is just throwing away valuable Points - throwing Games - and throwing another Season in the Cups. WE WANT to improve year on year - rather than taking 3 steps back and only 1 or 2 forward.[/p][/quote]We agree on most if not all your points and our love of SFC I would suspect but Boruc doesn't want to even sit on the bench and prove his worth so RK can only do what's in the best interest of the club and move him on.[/p][/quote]OK- What is the PLAN B and C for Goalkeepers - and please do not say RK thinks Kelvin or Gazza are the answer. I do not post about the business interests of the Club as that is for RK or Les Reed to make an announcement or communicate - they do not need a mouth piece. We are Fans and therefore it is logical to post the fans point of view. JOSHUA TREE - PRINCE OF WALES and KING xxFRED (Remember Brazil game in the World Cup with Lovren) for the game tomorrow. WE NEED 3 POINTS and we need GOOD FAN SUPPORT to achieve this and very good football. A Draw will be a disappointment.[/p][/quote]I or you are not close enough to have an informed opinion of what plan b c or d is with the goalkeeping situation, however, surely there comes a point where we have to trust the establishment are making the right choices. If Koeman is the man I think he is then I would think one of the following. To bring FF in for 10 million and put him straight in the side having already weighed up AB and how he is likely to react I would hazard a guess and perhaps he doesn't rate AB as highly as we do. Or He already has a replacement lined up from another club. Or He and the goal keeping coach feel they can work on one of the other guys already at the club to come good. Or we can take the view that the board and the manager are nothing but a load of bar stewards plotting our great clubs downfall.[/p][/quote]I LIKE the Post as it gets to the HEART of one of the other BIG SUMMER ISSUES. Do we follow the Hierarchy of RK and LR blindly - Do we say in RK or LR we trust OR Do they earn our TRUST with good performance and when they communicate they deliver. NOTHING UPSET the Southampton Fans more in the Summer - than saying the Players are not for Sale and then offloading OUR TALENT.[/p][/quote]In my opinion yes you do, apart from a string of events that I am sure were ordained long before most of the guys making the decisions now were at the club what have they done so wrong?. I can't see as they have done a great deal wrong for me they have turned a potential nightmare around, so if they have to earn respect or trust then they have gone a long way to doing so. I think distortion of the truth upsets the fans and that is exactly what you have done with that comment, I believe it was said that they will do their best not to sell our players and if they were sold it would be on our terms.[/p][/quote]Copied and Pasted from Media Sources .... See below. Saints staying! Southampton WON'T sell stars to address financial issues - Ralph Krueger SOUTHAMPTON chairman Ralph Krueger insists that the club will not be forced to sell their prize assets in the summer despite recording a £7.1 million loss for the year ending June 30, 2013.[/p][/quote]From Les Reed .. As far as the policy in concerned we have had a great season, we want to build on that season, we want to improve the squad going forward, we want to retain the players we’ve got. They are all contracted, they all have existing contracts and we intend to honour those contracts. Any enquiries we get will probably be met with a ‘no, not for sale.’ Our intention is to keep this very good team together and build on it by bringing in players to improve upon it. WHAT HAPPENED WITH CHAMBERS UPSET SOUTHAMPTON FANS. COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 6

3:29pm Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
SouthamptonLegend wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote: Warrens - Seed - Hedge End Bob - Costa Gaz and the many others ..... WE have been on this remarkable journey since League One when Barnard was firing shots over the bar pre-game and we lost to Swindon at home. The FAN BASE galvanised under RED ARMY and we took the fight Home and Away through the Leagues to the premiership with a high of 3rd last season and finished 8th. We were at Plymouth AWAY - in the snow at Birmingham AWAY - and our fantastic Supporters drove the Team to Victory and the football community got to know our brand and that we meant business ... WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON And under that banner - we chanted that we were off to Brazil at west Ham away last season and our FAIR CITY Thad no better representation that our passionate fans. The SUMMER has been shocking with all the school boy errors - ( letting lambert go was one - and he made the difference vs pool last week and for just 4 million) NOW after asking for two first class keepers and having to endure all the lost points and Cup exits - we get Fraser Forster and seem incapable of managing two first class keepers. FANS DISPAIR at recent events - no wonder Season ticket Sales are down - even the posters outside our loved stadium convey a lack of first class leadership and passion. NO WONDER fans have been divided between trying to be positive and suorting the hierarchy - and posting realistically about the folly of following the business model without taking into account the fans and the big picture. WAKE UP MUST DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT SFC - mediocrity - cup exits - and the spectre of fighting for 40 points beckon. RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN. NO FEAR - NO SURRENDER. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON
Christ. Can't imagine what you were like in the 90s when we were fighting relegation every season!
Thanks for the Post - as we get to the heart of the BIG ISSUE.

Why in 2014 should we return to being a club fighting Relegation every year because if that is what is on offer - a whole generation of fans will switch off after being sold short by the Club.

WE FIGHT FOR EUROPE - WE FIGHT A WEMBLEY APPEARANCE.
Remind me why we didn't get to Wembley last year,was it our choice of goal keeper for the cup games, was it the previous manager seeming lack of interest in the game against Sunderland??
The Manager etc was culpable ...

however putting Davis between the sticks is asking for a Cup Exit - especially when playing a Championship Team Away or Prem Team Home and Away and giving away League Points.

I argue that keeping Fraser and Artur is in the best interests of achievement for Southampton Football Club.

Having fraser injured and having one of our other Goalkeepers - is just throwing away valuable Points - throwing Games - and throwing another Season in the Cups.

WE WANT to improve year on year - rather than taking 3 steps back and only 1 or 2 forward.
We agree on most if not all your points and our love of SFC I would suspect but Boruc doesn't want to even sit on the bench and prove his worth so RK can only do what's in the best interest of the club and move him on.
OK- What is the PLAN B and C for Goalkeepers - and please do not say RK thinks Kelvin or Gazza are the answer.

I do not post about the business interests of the Club as that is for RK or Les Reed to make an announcement or communicate - they do not need a mouth piece.

We are Fans and therefore it is logical to post the fans point of view.

JOSHUA TREE - PRINCE OF WALES and KING xxFRED (Remember Brazil game in the World Cup with Lovren) for the game tomorrow.

WE NEED 3 POINTS and we need GOOD FAN SUPPORT to achieve this and very good football. A Draw will be a disappointment.
I or you are not close enough to have an informed opinion of what plan b c or d is with the goalkeeping situation, however, surely there comes a point where we have to trust the establishment are making the right choices.

If Koeman is the man I think he is then I would think one of the following.

To bring FF in for 10 million and put him straight in the side having already weighed up AB and how he is likely to react I would hazard a guess and perhaps he doesn't rate AB as highly as we do.

Or

He already has a replacement lined up from another club.

Or

He and the goal keeping coach feel they can work on one of the other guys already at the club to come good.

Or we can take the view that the board and the manager are nothing but a load of bar stewards plotting our great clubs downfall.
I LIKE the Post as it gets to the HEART of one of the other BIG SUMMER ISSUES.

Do we follow the Hierarchy of RK and LR blindly - Do we say in RK or LR we trust OR

Do they earn our TRUST with good performance and when they communicate they deliver.

NOTHING UPSET the Southampton Fans more in the Summer - than saying the Players are not for Sale and then offloading OUR TALENT.
In my opinion yes you do, apart from a string of events that I am sure were ordained long before most of the guys making the decisions now were at the club what have they done so wrong?.

I can't see as they have done a great deal wrong for me they have turned a potential nightmare around, so if they have to earn respect or trust then they have gone a long way to doing so.

I think distortion of the truth upsets the fans and that is exactly what you have done with that comment, I believe it was said that they will do their best not to sell our players and if they were sold it would be on our terms.
Copied and Pasted from Media Sources .... See below.

Saints staying! Southampton WON'T sell stars to address financial issues - Ralph Krueger

SOUTHAMPTON chairman Ralph Krueger insists that the club will not be forced to sell their prize assets in the summer despite recording a £7.1 million loss for the year ending June 30, 2013.
And

They were forced by the players, the contracts, the financial position and the money being offered.

You remind me of a guy who USED to work for me.

He cleaned our floors, he complained when i purchased a broom for him, he wanted a mop and bucket, when I went out and got the mop and bucket he wanted one of those sit on floor scrubbers, thinking now he has all three he must be happy guess what.
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: Warrens - Seed - Hedge End Bob - Costa Gaz and the many others ..... WE have been on this remarkable journey since League One when Barnard was firing shots over the bar pre-game and we lost to Swindon at home. The FAN BASE galvanised under RED ARMY and we took the fight Home and Away through the Leagues to the premiership with a high of 3rd last season and finished 8th. We were at Plymouth AWAY - in the snow at Birmingham AWAY - and our fantastic Supporters drove the Team to Victory and the football community got to know our brand and that we meant business ... WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON And under that banner - we chanted that we were off to Brazil at west Ham away last season and our FAIR CITY Thad no better representation that our passionate fans. The SUMMER has been shocking with all the school boy errors - ( letting lambert go was one - and he made the difference vs pool last week and for just 4 million) NOW after asking for two first class keepers and having to endure all the lost points and Cup exits - we get Fraser Forster and seem incapable of managing two first class keepers. FANS DISPAIR at recent events - no wonder Season ticket Sales are down - even the posters outside our loved stadium convey a lack of first class leadership and passion. NO WONDER fans have been divided between trying to be positive and suorting the hierarchy - and posting realistically about the folly of following the business model without taking into account the fans and the big picture. WAKE UP MUST DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT SFC - mediocrity - cup exits - and the spectre of fighting for 40 points beckon. RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN. NO FEAR - NO SURRENDER. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON[/p][/quote]Christ. Can't imagine what you were like in the 90s when we were fighting relegation every season![/p][/quote]Thanks for the Post - as we get to the heart of the BIG ISSUE. Why in 2014 should we return to being a club fighting Relegation every year because if that is what is on offer - a whole generation of fans will switch off after being sold short by the Club. WE FIGHT FOR EUROPE - WE FIGHT A WEMBLEY APPEARANCE.[/p][/quote]Remind me why we didn't get to Wembley last year,was it our choice of goal keeper for the cup games, was it the previous manager seeming lack of interest in the game against Sunderland??[/p][/quote]The Manager etc was culpable ... however putting Davis between the sticks is asking for a Cup Exit - especially when playing a Championship Team Away or Prem Team Home and Away and giving away League Points. I argue that keeping Fraser and Artur is in the best interests of achievement for Southampton Football Club. Having fraser injured and having one of our other Goalkeepers - is just throwing away valuable Points - throwing Games - and throwing another Season in the Cups. WE WANT to improve year on year - rather than taking 3 steps back and only 1 or 2 forward.[/p][/quote]We agree on most if not all your points and our love of SFC I would suspect but Boruc doesn't want to even sit on the bench and prove his worth so RK can only do what's in the best interest of the club and move him on.[/p][/quote]OK- What is the PLAN B and C for Goalkeepers - and please do not say RK thinks Kelvin or Gazza are the answer. I do not post about the business interests of the Club as that is for RK or Les Reed to make an announcement or communicate - they do not need a mouth piece. We are Fans and therefore it is logical to post the fans point of view. JOSHUA TREE - PRINCE OF WALES and KING xxFRED (Remember Brazil game in the World Cup with Lovren) for the game tomorrow. WE NEED 3 POINTS and we need GOOD FAN SUPPORT to achieve this and very good football. A Draw will be a disappointment.[/p][/quote]I or you are not close enough to have an informed opinion of what plan b c or d is with the goalkeeping situation, however, surely there comes a point where we have to trust the establishment are making the right choices. If Koeman is the man I think he is then I would think one of the following. To bring FF in for 10 million and put him straight in the side having already weighed up AB and how he is likely to react I would hazard a guess and perhaps he doesn't rate AB as highly as we do. Or He already has a replacement lined up from another club. Or He and the goal keeping coach feel they can work on one of the other guys already at the club to come good. Or we can take the view that the board and the manager are nothing but a load of bar stewards plotting our great clubs downfall.[/p][/quote]I LIKE the Post as it gets to the HEART of one of the other BIG SUMMER ISSUES. Do we follow the Hierarchy of RK and LR blindly - Do we say in RK or LR we trust OR Do they earn our TRUST with good performance and when they communicate they deliver. NOTHING UPSET the Southampton Fans more in the Summer - than saying the Players are not for Sale and then offloading OUR TALENT.[/p][/quote]In my opinion yes you do, apart from a string of events that I am sure were ordained long before most of the guys making the decisions now were at the club what have they done so wrong?. I can't see as they have done a great deal wrong for me they have turned a potential nightmare around, so if they have to earn respect or trust then they have gone a long way to doing so. I think distortion of the truth upsets the fans and that is exactly what you have done with that comment, I believe it was said that they will do their best not to sell our players and if they were sold it would be on our terms.[/p][/quote]Copied and Pasted from Media Sources .... See below. Saints staying! Southampton WON'T sell stars to address financial issues - Ralph Krueger SOUTHAMPTON chairman Ralph Krueger insists that the club will not be forced to sell their prize assets in the summer despite recording a £7.1 million loss for the year ending June 30, 2013.[/p][/quote]And They were forced by the players, the contracts, the financial position and the money being offered. You remind me of a guy who USED to work for me. He cleaned our floors, he complained when i purchased a broom for him, he wanted a mop and bucket, when I went out and got the mop and bucket he wanted one of those sit on floor scrubbers, thinking now he has all three he must be happy guess what. fascia123
  • Score: -1

3:34pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
SouthamptonLegend wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote: Warrens - Seed - Hedge End Bob - Costa Gaz and the many others ..... WE have been on this remarkable journey since League One when Barnard was firing shots over the bar pre-game and we lost to Swindon at home. The FAN BASE galvanised under RED ARMY and we took the fight Home and Away through the Leagues to the premiership with a high of 3rd last season and finished 8th. We were at Plymouth AWAY - in the snow at Birmingham AWAY - and our fantastic Supporters drove the Team to Victory and the football community got to know our brand and that we meant business ... WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON And under that banner - we chanted that we were off to Brazil at west Ham away last season and our FAIR CITY Thad no better representation that our passionate fans. The SUMMER has been shocking with all the school boy errors - ( letting lambert go was one - and he made the difference vs pool last week and for just 4 million) NOW after asking for two first class keepers and having to endure all the lost points and Cup exits - we get Fraser Forster and seem incapable of managing two first class keepers. FANS DISPAIR at recent events - no wonder Season ticket Sales are down - even the posters outside our loved stadium convey a lack of first class leadership and passion. NO WONDER fans have been divided between trying to be positive and suorting the hierarchy - and posting realistically about the folly of following the business model without taking into account the fans and the big picture. WAKE UP MUST DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT SFC - mediocrity - cup exits - and the spectre of fighting for 40 points beckon. RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN. NO FEAR - NO SURRENDER. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON
Christ. Can't imagine what you were like in the 90s when we were fighting relegation every season!
Thanks for the Post - as we get to the heart of the BIG ISSUE.

Why in 2014 should we return to being a club fighting Relegation every year because if that is what is on offer - a whole generation of fans will switch off after being sold short by the Club.

WE FIGHT FOR EUROPE - WE FIGHT A WEMBLEY APPEARANCE.
Remind me why we didn't get to Wembley last year,was it our choice of goal keeper for the cup games, was it the previous manager seeming lack of interest in the game against Sunderland??
The Manager etc was culpable ...

however putting Davis between the sticks is asking for a Cup Exit - especially when playing a Championship Team Away or Prem Team Home and Away and giving away League Points.

I argue that keeping Fraser and Artur is in the best interests of achievement for Southampton Football Club.

Having fraser injured and having one of our other Goalkeepers - is just throwing away valuable Points - throwing Games - and throwing another Season in the Cups.

WE WANT to improve year on year - rather than taking 3 steps back and only 1 or 2 forward.
We agree on most if not all your points and our love of SFC I would suspect but Boruc doesn't want to even sit on the bench and prove his worth so RK can only do what's in the best interest of the club and move him on.
OK- What is the PLAN B and C for Goalkeepers - and please do not say RK thinks Kelvin or Gazza are the answer.

I do not post about the business interests of the Club as that is for RK or Les Reed to make an announcement or communicate - they do not need a mouth piece.

We are Fans and therefore it is logical to post the fans point of view.

JOSHUA TREE - PRINCE OF WALES and KING xxFRED (Remember Brazil game in the World Cup with Lovren) for the game tomorrow.

WE NEED 3 POINTS and we need GOOD FAN SUPPORT to achieve this and very good football. A Draw will be a disappointment.
I or you are not close enough to have an informed opinion of what plan b c or d is with the goalkeeping situation, however, surely there comes a point where we have to trust the establishment are making the right choices.

If Koeman is the man I think he is then I would think one of the following.

To bring FF in for 10 million and put him straight in the side having already weighed up AB and how he is likely to react I would hazard a guess and perhaps he doesn't rate AB as highly as we do.

Or

He already has a replacement lined up from another club.

Or

He and the goal keeping coach feel they can work on one of the other guys already at the club to come good.

Or we can take the view that the board and the manager are nothing but a load of bar stewards plotting our great clubs downfall.
I LIKE the Post as it gets to the HEART of one of the other BIG SUMMER ISSUES.

Do we follow the Hierarchy of RK and LR blindly - Do we say in RK or LR we trust OR

Do they earn our TRUST with good performance and when they communicate they deliver.

NOTHING UPSET the Southampton Fans more in the Summer - than saying the Players are not for Sale and then offloading OUR TALENT.
In my opinion yes you do, apart from a string of events that I am sure were ordained long before most of the guys making the decisions now were at the club what have they done so wrong?.

I can't see as they have done a great deal wrong for me they have turned a potential nightmare around, so if they have to earn respect or trust then they have gone a long way to doing so.

I think distortion of the truth upsets the fans and that is exactly what you have done with that comment, I believe it was said that they will do their best not to sell our players and if they were sold it would be on our terms.
Copied and Pasted from Media Sources .... See below.

Saints staying! Southampton WON'T sell stars to address financial issues - Ralph Krueger

SOUTHAMPTON chairman Ralph Krueger insists that the club will not be forced to sell their prize assets in the summer despite recording a £7.1 million loss for the year ending June 30, 2013.
And

They were forced by the players, the contracts, the financial position and the money being offered.

You remind me of a guy who USED to work for me.

He cleaned our floors, he complained when i purchased a broom for him, he wanted a mop and bucket, when I went out and got the mop and bucket he wanted one of those sit on floor scrubbers, thinking now he has all three he must be happy guess what.
Yep, yep. And all the fans who said we were being asset stripped. We will almost certainly have reinvested ALL of the money back into the club before the season starts. This clearly shows no lack of ambition, just lack of loyalty and fight from our so-called 'heroes.' They were scared of staying for the Champions League fight so went for a short cut, blaming the so-called lack of club ambition which has now proven to be false. Can't blame the board for that am afraid.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: Warrens - Seed - Hedge End Bob - Costa Gaz and the many others ..... WE have been on this remarkable journey since League One when Barnard was firing shots over the bar pre-game and we lost to Swindon at home. The FAN BASE galvanised under RED ARMY and we took the fight Home and Away through the Leagues to the premiership with a high of 3rd last season and finished 8th. We were at Plymouth AWAY - in the snow at Birmingham AWAY - and our fantastic Supporters drove the Team to Victory and the football community got to know our brand and that we meant business ... WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON And under that banner - we chanted that we were off to Brazil at west Ham away last season and our FAIR CITY Thad no better representation that our passionate fans. The SUMMER has been shocking with all the school boy errors - ( letting lambert go was one - and he made the difference vs pool last week and for just 4 million) NOW after asking for two first class keepers and having to endure all the lost points and Cup exits - we get Fraser Forster and seem incapable of managing two first class keepers. FANS DISPAIR at recent events - no wonder Season ticket Sales are down - even the posters outside our loved stadium convey a lack of first class leadership and passion. NO WONDER fans have been divided between trying to be positive and suorting the hierarchy - and posting realistically about the folly of following the business model without taking into account the fans and the big picture. WAKE UP MUST DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT SFC - mediocrity - cup exits - and the spectre of fighting for 40 points beckon. RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN. NO FEAR - NO SURRENDER. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON[/p][/quote]Christ. Can't imagine what you were like in the 90s when we were fighting relegation every season![/p][/quote]Thanks for the Post - as we get to the heart of the BIG ISSUE. Why in 2014 should we return to being a club fighting Relegation every year because if that is what is on offer - a whole generation of fans will switch off after being sold short by the Club. WE FIGHT FOR EUROPE - WE FIGHT A WEMBLEY APPEARANCE.[/p][/quote]Remind me why we didn't get to Wembley last year,was it our choice of goal keeper for the cup games, was it the previous manager seeming lack of interest in the game against Sunderland??[/p][/quote]The Manager etc was culpable ... however putting Davis between the sticks is asking for a Cup Exit - especially when playing a Championship Team Away or Prem Team Home and Away and giving away League Points. I argue that keeping Fraser and Artur is in the best interests of achievement for Southampton Football Club. Having fraser injured and having one of our other Goalkeepers - is just throwing away valuable Points - throwing Games - and throwing another Season in the Cups. WE WANT to improve year on year - rather than taking 3 steps back and only 1 or 2 forward.[/p][/quote]We agree on most if not all your points and our love of SFC I would suspect but Boruc doesn't want to even sit on the bench and prove his worth so RK can only do what's in the best interest of the club and move him on.[/p][/quote]OK- What is the PLAN B and C for Goalkeepers - and please do not say RK thinks Kelvin or Gazza are the answer. I do not post about the business interests of the Club as that is for RK or Les Reed to make an announcement or communicate - they do not need a mouth piece. We are Fans and therefore it is logical to post the fans point of view. JOSHUA TREE - PRINCE OF WALES and KING xxFRED (Remember Brazil game in the World Cup with Lovren) for the game tomorrow. WE NEED 3 POINTS and we need GOOD FAN SUPPORT to achieve this and very good football. A Draw will be a disappointment.[/p][/quote]I or you are not close enough to have an informed opinion of what plan b c or d is with the goalkeeping situation, however, surely there comes a point where we have to trust the establishment are making the right choices. If Koeman is the man I think he is then I would think one of the following. To bring FF in for 10 million and put him straight in the side having already weighed up AB and how he is likely to react I would hazard a guess and perhaps he doesn't rate AB as highly as we do. Or He already has a replacement lined up from another club. Or He and the goal keeping coach feel they can work on one of the other guys already at the club to come good. Or we can take the view that the board and the manager are nothing but a load of bar stewards plotting our great clubs downfall.[/p][/quote]I LIKE the Post as it gets to the HEART of one of the other BIG SUMMER ISSUES. Do we follow the Hierarchy of RK and LR blindly - Do we say in RK or LR we trust OR Do they earn our TRUST with good performance and when they communicate they deliver. NOTHING UPSET the Southampton Fans more in the Summer - than saying the Players are not for Sale and then offloading OUR TALENT.[/p][/quote]In my opinion yes you do, apart from a string of events that I am sure were ordained long before most of the guys making the decisions now were at the club what have they done so wrong?. I can't see as they have done a great deal wrong for me they have turned a potential nightmare around, so if they have to earn respect or trust then they have gone a long way to doing so. I think distortion of the truth upsets the fans and that is exactly what you have done with that comment, I believe it was said that they will do their best not to sell our players and if they were sold it would be on our terms.[/p][/quote]Copied and Pasted from Media Sources .... See below. Saints staying! Southampton WON'T sell stars to address financial issues - Ralph Krueger SOUTHAMPTON chairman Ralph Krueger insists that the club will not be forced to sell their prize assets in the summer despite recording a £7.1 million loss for the year ending June 30, 2013.[/p][/quote]And They were forced by the players, the contracts, the financial position and the money being offered. You remind me of a guy who USED to work for me. He cleaned our floors, he complained when i purchased a broom for him, he wanted a mop and bucket, when I went out and got the mop and bucket he wanted one of those sit on floor scrubbers, thinking now he has all three he must be happy guess what.[/p][/quote]Yep, yep. And all the fans who said we were being asset stripped. We will almost certainly have reinvested ALL of the money back into the club before the season starts. This clearly shows no lack of ambition, just lack of loyalty and fight from our so-called 'heroes.' They were scared of staying for the Champions League fight so went for a short cut, blaming the so-called lack of club ambition which has now proven to be false. Can't blame the board for that am afraid. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 0

3:36pm Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
SouthamptonLegend wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote: Warrens - Seed - Hedge End Bob - Costa Gaz and the many others ..... WE have been on this remarkable journey since League One when Barnard was firing shots over the bar pre-game and we lost to Swindon at home. The FAN BASE galvanised under RED ARMY and we took the fight Home and Away through the Leagues to the premiership with a high of 3rd last season and finished 8th. We were at Plymouth AWAY - in the snow at Birmingham AWAY - and our fantastic Supporters drove the Team to Victory and the football community got to know our brand and that we meant business ... WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON And under that banner - we chanted that we were off to Brazil at west Ham away last season and our FAIR CITY Thad no better representation that our passionate fans. The SUMMER has been shocking with all the school boy errors - ( letting lambert go was one - and he made the difference vs pool last week and for just 4 million) NOW after asking for two first class keepers and having to endure all the lost points and Cup exits - we get Fraser Forster and seem incapable of managing two first class keepers. FANS DISPAIR at recent events - no wonder Season ticket Sales are down - even the posters outside our loved stadium convey a lack of first class leadership and passion. NO WONDER fans have been divided between trying to be positive and suorting the hierarchy - and posting realistically about the folly of following the business model without taking into account the fans and the big picture. WAKE UP MUST DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT SFC - mediocrity - cup exits - and the spectre of fighting for 40 points beckon. RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN. NO FEAR - NO SURRENDER. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON
Christ. Can't imagine what you were like in the 90s when we were fighting relegation every season!
Thanks for the Post - as we get to the heart of the BIG ISSUE.

Why in 2014 should we return to being a club fighting Relegation every year because if that is what is on offer - a whole generation of fans will switch off after being sold short by the Club.

WE FIGHT FOR EUROPE - WE FIGHT A WEMBLEY APPEARANCE.
Remind me why we didn't get to Wembley last year,was it our choice of goal keeper for the cup games, was it the previous manager seeming lack of interest in the game against Sunderland??
The Manager etc was culpable ...

however putting Davis between the sticks is asking for a Cup Exit - especially when playing a Championship Team Away or Prem Team Home and Away and giving away League Points.

I argue that keeping Fraser and Artur is in the best interests of achievement for Southampton Football Club.

Having fraser injured and having one of our other Goalkeepers - is just throwing away valuable Points - throwing Games - and throwing another Season in the Cups.

WE WANT to improve year on year - rather than taking 3 steps back and only 1 or 2 forward.
We agree on most if not all your points and our love of SFC I would suspect but Boruc doesn't want to even sit on the bench and prove his worth so RK can only do what's in the best interest of the club and move him on.
OK- What is the PLAN B and C for Goalkeepers - and please do not say RK thinks Kelvin or Gazza are the answer.

I do not post about the business interests of the Club as that is for RK or Les Reed to make an announcement or communicate - they do not need a mouth piece.

We are Fans and therefore it is logical to post the fans point of view.

JOSHUA TREE - PRINCE OF WALES and KING xxFRED (Remember Brazil game in the World Cup with Lovren) for the game tomorrow.

WE NEED 3 POINTS and we need GOOD FAN SUPPORT to achieve this and very good football. A Draw will be a disappointment.
I or you are not close enough to have an informed opinion of what plan b c or d is with the goalkeeping situation, however, surely there comes a point where we have to trust the establishment are making the right choices.

If Koeman is the man I think he is then I would think one of the following.

To bring FF in for 10 million and put him straight in the side having already weighed up AB and how he is likely to react I would hazard a guess and perhaps he doesn't rate AB as highly as we do.

Or

He already has a replacement lined up from another club.

Or

He and the goal keeping coach feel they can work on one of the other guys already at the club to come good.

Or we can take the view that the board and the manager are nothing but a load of bar stewards plotting our great clubs downfall.
I LIKE the Post as it gets to the HEART of one of the other BIG SUMMER ISSUES.

Do we follow the Hierarchy of RK and LR blindly - Do we say in RK or LR we trust OR

Do they earn our TRUST with good performance and when they communicate they deliver.

NOTHING UPSET the Southampton Fans more in the Summer - than saying the Players are not for Sale and then offloading OUR TALENT.
In my opinion yes you do, apart from a string of events that I am sure were ordained long before most of the guys making the decisions now were at the club what have they done so wrong?.

I can't see as they have done a great deal wrong for me they have turned a potential nightmare around, so if they have to earn respect or trust then they have gone a long way to doing so.

I think distortion of the truth upsets the fans and that is exactly what you have done with that comment, I believe it was said that they will do their best not to sell our players and if they were sold it would be on our terms.
Copied and Pasted from Media Sources .... See below.

Saints staying! Southampton WON'T sell stars to address financial issues - Ralph Krueger

SOUTHAMPTON chairman Ralph Krueger insists that the club will not be forced to sell their prize assets in the summer despite recording a £7.1 million loss for the year ending June 30, 2013.
And

They were forced by the players, the contracts, the financial position and the money being offered.

You remind me of a guy who USED to work for me.

He cleaned our floors, he complained when i purchased a broom for him, he wanted a mop and bucket, when I went out and got the mop and bucket he wanted one of those sit on floor scrubbers, thinking now he has all three he must be happy guess what.
Yep, yep. And all the fans who said we were being asset stripped. We will almost certainly have reinvested ALL of the money back into the club before the season starts. This clearly shows no lack of ambition, just lack of loyalty and fight from our so-called 'heroes.' They were scared of staying for the Champions League fight so went for a short cut, blaming the so-called lack of club ambition which has now proven to be false. Can't blame the board for that am afraid.
God common sense and reason, that's in short supply today.
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: Warrens - Seed - Hedge End Bob - Costa Gaz and the many others ..... WE have been on this remarkable journey since League One when Barnard was firing shots over the bar pre-game and we lost to Swindon at home. The FAN BASE galvanised under RED ARMY and we took the fight Home and Away through the Leagues to the premiership with a high of 3rd last season and finished 8th. We were at Plymouth AWAY - in the snow at Birmingham AWAY - and our fantastic Supporters drove the Team to Victory and the football community got to know our brand and that we meant business ... WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON And under that banner - we chanted that we were off to Brazil at west Ham away last season and our FAIR CITY Thad no better representation that our passionate fans. The SUMMER has been shocking with all the school boy errors - ( letting lambert go was one - and he made the difference vs pool last week and for just 4 million) NOW after asking for two first class keepers and having to endure all the lost points and Cup exits - we get Fraser Forster and seem incapable of managing two first class keepers. FANS DISPAIR at recent events - no wonder Season ticket Sales are down - even the posters outside our loved stadium convey a lack of first class leadership and passion. NO WONDER fans have been divided between trying to be positive and suorting the hierarchy - and posting realistically about the folly of following the business model without taking into account the fans and the big picture. WAKE UP MUST DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT SFC - mediocrity - cup exits - and the spectre of fighting for 40 points beckon. RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN. NO FEAR - NO SURRENDER. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON[/p][/quote]Christ. Can't imagine what you were like in the 90s when we were fighting relegation every season![/p][/quote]Thanks for the Post - as we get to the heart of the BIG ISSUE. Why in 2014 should we return to being a club fighting Relegation every year because if that is what is on offer - a whole generation of fans will switch off after being sold short by the Club. WE FIGHT FOR EUROPE - WE FIGHT A WEMBLEY APPEARANCE.[/p][/quote]Remind me why we didn't get to Wembley last year,was it our choice of goal keeper for the cup games, was it the previous manager seeming lack of interest in the game against Sunderland??[/p][/quote]The Manager etc was culpable ... however putting Davis between the sticks is asking for a Cup Exit - especially when playing a Championship Team Away or Prem Team Home and Away and giving away League Points. I argue that keeping Fraser and Artur is in the best interests of achievement for Southampton Football Club. Having fraser injured and having one of our other Goalkeepers - is just throwing away valuable Points - throwing Games - and throwing another Season in the Cups. WE WANT to improve year on year - rather than taking 3 steps back and only 1 or 2 forward.[/p][/quote]We agree on most if not all your points and our love of SFC I would suspect but Boruc doesn't want to even sit on the bench and prove his worth so RK can only do what's in the best interest of the club and move him on.[/p][/quote]OK- What is the PLAN B and C for Goalkeepers - and please do not say RK thinks Kelvin or Gazza are the answer. I do not post about the business interests of the Club as that is for RK or Les Reed to make an announcement or communicate - they do not need a mouth piece. We are Fans and therefore it is logical to post the fans point of view. JOSHUA TREE - PRINCE OF WALES and KING xxFRED (Remember Brazil game in the World Cup with Lovren) for the game tomorrow. WE NEED 3 POINTS and we need GOOD FAN SUPPORT to achieve this and very good football. A Draw will be a disappointment.[/p][/quote]I or you are not close enough to have an informed opinion of what plan b c or d is with the goalkeeping situation, however, surely there comes a point where we have to trust the establishment are making the right choices. If Koeman is the man I think he is then I would think one of the following. To bring FF in for 10 million and put him straight in the side having already weighed up AB and how he is likely to react I would hazard a guess and perhaps he doesn't rate AB as highly as we do. Or He already has a replacement lined up from another club. Or He and the goal keeping coach feel they can work on one of the other guys already at the club to come good. Or we can take the view that the board and the manager are nothing but a load of bar stewards plotting our great clubs downfall.[/p][/quote]I LIKE the Post as it gets to the HEART of one of the other BIG SUMMER ISSUES. Do we follow the Hierarchy of RK and LR blindly - Do we say in RK or LR we trust OR Do they earn our TRUST with good performance and when they communicate they deliver. NOTHING UPSET the Southampton Fans more in the Summer - than saying the Players are not for Sale and then offloading OUR TALENT.[/p][/quote]In my opinion yes you do, apart from a string of events that I am sure were ordained long before most of the guys making the decisions now were at the club what have they done so wrong?. I can't see as they have done a great deal wrong for me they have turned a potential nightmare around, so if they have to earn respect or trust then they have gone a long way to doing so. I think distortion of the truth upsets the fans and that is exactly what you have done with that comment, I believe it was said that they will do their best not to sell our players and if they were sold it would be on our terms.[/p][/quote]Copied and Pasted from Media Sources .... See below. Saints staying! Southampton WON'T sell stars to address financial issues - Ralph Krueger SOUTHAMPTON chairman Ralph Krueger insists that the club will not be forced to sell their prize assets in the summer despite recording a £7.1 million loss for the year ending June 30, 2013.[/p][/quote]And They were forced by the players, the contracts, the financial position and the money being offered. You remind me of a guy who USED to work for me. He cleaned our floors, he complained when i purchased a broom for him, he wanted a mop and bucket, when I went out and got the mop and bucket he wanted one of those sit on floor scrubbers, thinking now he has all three he must be happy guess what.[/p][/quote]Yep, yep. And all the fans who said we were being asset stripped. We will almost certainly have reinvested ALL of the money back into the club before the season starts. This clearly shows no lack of ambition, just lack of loyalty and fight from our so-called 'heroes.' They were scared of staying for the Champions League fight so went for a short cut, blaming the so-called lack of club ambition which has now proven to be false. Can't blame the board for that am afraid.[/p][/quote]God common sense and reason, that's in short supply today. fascia123
  • Score: 0

3:40pm Fri 22 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

InsideOutCat wrote:
By the way, how many of the whingers on this thread are the same people who were proclaiming only a short while ago that the signing of Forster was finally proof of the club's ambition? Did you seriously think we'd pay £10m and then NOT make him first choice?
Whingers? Some of you supposedly positive people are so amazingly negative it is unbelievable. If someone dares say we should keep a player or could have done more to make him feel happy we are whining?

As far as I can see the 'positive' posters are the ones picking a fight on here, today and frankly all the time.

The only thing 'negative' people have said as far as I can see is: Boruc is a good player that we should probably try to keep to retain the depth of our squad. Perhaps the situation could have been dealt with more positively so that he would have been less unsettled.

What's negative about that? He's a good player and a decent guy with a fun character who is a winner. We want to keep him. He's better than the alternatives. He's not going to be our number one, but he's a great number two and will probably get a decent handful of games in one of Europe's top league and play a part in our success as a squad player.

Problem is that you guys said the same about Morgan. Ooh, he wants to go, we'd better let him because we don't want players who don't want to play for our club.

At the end of the day, the biggest positive that the club have done all closed season is taking the negative step of forcing Morgan to stay - something that the 'neggies' had been asking for since the start of the summer - a strong stance.

All the positive news we've had since is a direct result of getting hard on outgoing players and saying enough is enough.

Since then, bar speculation, we've stemmed the tide of unhappy players and added some exciting signings. And it's all been positive.

So who is positive? The people who wanted to surrender or the people who felt we should take a stand and that our opinion did count for something?
[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: By the way, how many of the whingers on this thread are the same people who were proclaiming only a short while ago that the signing of Forster was finally proof of the club's ambition? Did you seriously think we'd pay £10m and then NOT make him first choice?[/p][/quote]Whingers? Some of you supposedly positive people are so amazingly negative it is unbelievable. If someone dares say we should keep a player or could have done more to make him feel happy we are whining? As far as I can see the 'positive' posters are the ones picking a fight on here, today and frankly all the time. The only thing 'negative' people have said as far as I can see is: Boruc is a good player that we should probably try to keep to retain the depth of our squad. Perhaps the situation could have been dealt with more positively so that he would have been less unsettled. What's negative about that? He's a good player and a decent guy with a fun character who is a winner. We want to keep him. He's better than the alternatives. He's not going to be our number one, but he's a great number two and will probably get a decent handful of games in one of Europe's top league and play a part in our success as a squad player. Problem is that you guys said the same about Morgan. Ooh, he wants to go, we'd better let him because we don't want players who don't want to play for our club. At the end of the day, the biggest positive that the club have done all closed season is taking the negative step of forcing Morgan to stay - something that the 'neggies' had been asking for since the start of the summer - a strong stance. All the positive news we've had since is a direct result of getting hard on outgoing players and saying enough is enough. Since then, bar speculation, we've stemmed the tide of unhappy players and added some exciting signings. And it's all been positive. So who is positive? The people who wanted to surrender or the people who felt we should take a stand and that our opinion did count for something? SaintJD
  • Score: 3

3:41pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

InsideOutCat wrote:
By the way, how many of the whingers on this thread are the same people who were proclaiming only a short while ago that the signing of Forster was finally proof of the club's ambition? Did you seriously think we'd pay £10m and then NOT make him first choice?
Bingo!
[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: By the way, how many of the whingers on this thread are the same people who were proclaiming only a short while ago that the signing of Forster was finally proof of the club's ambition? Did you seriously think we'd pay £10m and then NOT make him first choice?[/p][/quote]Bingo! Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 0

3:44pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

On a separate note I want to know what muppet thought it was a good idea to put a BT sport poster showing Spuds up above the Citroen garage opposite SMS? Oh and can someone pls tell Sky to sort their channel numbers out - I am fed up with getting pro-wrestling every time I think I'm putting on SSN !!!!!!! Thanks.
On a separate note I want to know what muppet thought it was a good idea to put a BT sport poster showing Spuds up above the Citroen garage opposite SMS? Oh and can someone pls tell Sky to sort their channel numbers out - I am fed up with getting pro-wrestling every time I think I'm putting on SSN !!!!!!! Thanks. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 5

3:48pm Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

SaintJD wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
By the way, how many of the whingers on this thread are the same people who were proclaiming only a short while ago that the signing of Forster was finally proof of the club's ambition? Did you seriously think we'd pay £10m and then NOT make him first choice?
Whingers? Some of you supposedly positive people are so amazingly negative it is unbelievable. If someone dares say we should keep a player or could have done more to make him feel happy we are whining?

As far as I can see the 'positive' posters are the ones picking a fight on here, today and frankly all the time.

The only thing 'negative' people have said as far as I can see is: Boruc is a good player that we should probably try to keep to retain the depth of our squad. Perhaps the situation could have been dealt with more positively so that he would have been less unsettled.

What's negative about that? He's a good player and a decent guy with a fun character who is a winner. We want to keep him. He's better than the alternatives. He's not going to be our number one, but he's a great number two and will probably get a decent handful of games in one of Europe's top league and play a part in our success as a squad player.

Problem is that you guys said the same about Morgan. Ooh, he wants to go, we'd better let him because we don't want players who don't want to play for our club.

At the end of the day, the biggest positive that the club have done all closed season is taking the negative step of forcing Morgan to stay - something that the 'neggies' had been asking for since the start of the summer - a strong stance.

All the positive news we've had since is a direct result of getting hard on outgoing players and saying enough is enough.

Since then, bar speculation, we've stemmed the tide of unhappy players and added some exciting signings. And it's all been positive.

So who is positive? The people who wanted to surrender or the people who felt we should take a stand and that our opinion did count for something?
The selling of the players, the decision to keep Spyder and now it seems the decision to let Boruc go have all been made by this regime, I think and I can only speak for myself what peeps find frustrating is the continual mistrust and slagging off of the board etc, I will ask you have they done whole beep wrong?
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: By the way, how many of the whingers on this thread are the same people who were proclaiming only a short while ago that the signing of Forster was finally proof of the club's ambition? Did you seriously think we'd pay £10m and then NOT make him first choice?[/p][/quote]Whingers? Some of you supposedly positive people are so amazingly negative it is unbelievable. If someone dares say we should keep a player or could have done more to make him feel happy we are whining? As far as I can see the 'positive' posters are the ones picking a fight on here, today and frankly all the time. The only thing 'negative' people have said as far as I can see is: Boruc is a good player that we should probably try to keep to retain the depth of our squad. Perhaps the situation could have been dealt with more positively so that he would have been less unsettled. What's negative about that? He's a good player and a decent guy with a fun character who is a winner. We want to keep him. He's better than the alternatives. He's not going to be our number one, but he's a great number two and will probably get a decent handful of games in one of Europe's top league and play a part in our success as a squad player. Problem is that you guys said the same about Morgan. Ooh, he wants to go, we'd better let him because we don't want players who don't want to play for our club. At the end of the day, the biggest positive that the club have done all closed season is taking the negative step of forcing Morgan to stay - something that the 'neggies' had been asking for since the start of the summer - a strong stance. All the positive news we've had since is a direct result of getting hard on outgoing players and saying enough is enough. Since then, bar speculation, we've stemmed the tide of unhappy players and added some exciting signings. And it's all been positive. So who is positive? The people who wanted to surrender or the people who felt we should take a stand and that our opinion did count for something?[/p][/quote]The selling of the players, the decision to keep Spyder and now it seems the decision to let Boruc go have all been made by this regime, I think and I can only speak for myself what peeps find frustrating is the continual mistrust and slagging off of the board etc, I will ask you have they done whole beep wrong? fascia123
  • Score: 0

3:49pm Fri 22 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

By the way, quick score update:

Summer positivity play-offs - final results:

Semi-final: Neggies 7-7 Clappers (Clappers win 5-4 on penalties, Lovren missed penalty)

Final: Clappers 7-14 Grounded, balanced, sensible people who are positive, but aren't wandering around blindfolded either positively or negatively and will question the odd decision.

Winners: Grounded balanced sensible people.
By the way, quick score update: Summer positivity play-offs - final results: Semi-final: Neggies 7-7 Clappers (Clappers win 5-4 on penalties, Lovren missed penalty) Final: Clappers 7-14 Grounded, balanced, sensible people who are positive, but aren't wandering around blindfolded either positively or negatively and will question the odd decision. Winners: Grounded balanced sensible people. SaintJD
  • Score: 6

3:55pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Mush On The Beach says...

If Artur is to leave this window, I would propose we put in a small bid for Mark Schwarzer from Chelski to test the water. OK he is 41, which sounds ridiculous but he is still fully fit and the consummate pro and would be happy to be a number 2 in the prem.

Time is obviously needed for the new goal keeping coach to form a longer term strategy for bringing in the younger alternatives that are up to the level required ..... No offence intended Kelvin.
If Artur is to leave this window, I would propose we put in a small bid for Mark Schwarzer from Chelski to test the water. OK he is 41, which sounds ridiculous but he is still fully fit and the consummate pro and would be happy to be a number 2 in the prem. Time is obviously needed for the new goal keeping coach to form a longer term strategy for bringing in the younger alternatives that are up to the level required ..... No offence intended Kelvin. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 4

3:56pm Fri 22 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
On a separate note I want to know what muppet thought it was a good idea to put a BT sport poster showing Spuds up above the Citroen garage opposite SMS? Oh and can someone pls tell Sky to sort their channel numbers out - I am fed up with getting pro-wrestling every time I think I'm putting on SSN !!!!!!! Thanks.
AGREE - about the BT Sport Poster. COYR+WS
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: On a separate note I want to know what muppet thought it was a good idea to put a BT sport poster showing Spuds up above the Citroen garage opposite SMS? Oh and can someone pls tell Sky to sort their channel numbers out - I am fed up with getting pro-wrestling every time I think I'm putting on SSN !!!!!!! Thanks.[/p][/quote]AGREE - about the BT Sport Poster. COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 2

3:57pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

SaintJD wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
By the way, how many of the whingers on this thread are the same people who were proclaiming only a short while ago that the signing of Forster was finally proof of the club's ambition? Did you seriously think we'd pay £10m and then NOT make him first choice?
Whingers? Some of you supposedly positive people are so amazingly negative it is unbelievable. If someone dares say we should keep a player or could have done more to make him feel happy we are whining?

As far as I can see the 'positive' posters are the ones picking a fight on here, today and frankly all the time.

The only thing 'negative' people have said as far as I can see is: Boruc is a good player that we should probably try to keep to retain the depth of our squad. Perhaps the situation could have been dealt with more positively so that he would have been less unsettled.

What's negative about that? He's a good player and a decent guy with a fun character who is a winner. We want to keep him. He's better than the alternatives. He's not going to be our number one, but he's a great number two and will probably get a decent handful of games in one of Europe's top league and play a part in our success as a squad player.

Problem is that you guys said the same about Morgan. Ooh, he wants to go, we'd better let him because we don't want players who don't want to play for our club.

At the end of the day, the biggest positive that the club have done all closed season is taking the negative step of forcing Morgan to stay - something that the 'neggies' had been asking for since the start of the summer - a strong stance.

All the positive news we've had since is a direct result of getting hard on outgoing players and saying enough is enough.

Since then, bar speculation, we've stemmed the tide of unhappy players and added some exciting signings. And it's all been positive.

So who is positive? The people who wanted to surrender or the people who felt we should take a stand and that our opinion did count for something?
Not having a pop but I don't quite see your logic here. Personally I don't think Morgan should go and wish we'd taken the same stance with Lovren. On this one I think the club is doing the right thing with Artur. He doesn't want to sit on the bench - nothing wrong with that and nothing wrong with letting him leave. I haven't read every post on here today but don't feel I'm picking fights by being positive in the face of more criticism for the board.

We have been hard on one player - the rest of the positive news you mention has come from reinvesting money, which is what they promised.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: By the way, how many of the whingers on this thread are the same people who were proclaiming only a short while ago that the signing of Forster was finally proof of the club's ambition? Did you seriously think we'd pay £10m and then NOT make him first choice?[/p][/quote]Whingers? Some of you supposedly positive people are so amazingly negative it is unbelievable. If someone dares say we should keep a player or could have done more to make him feel happy we are whining? As far as I can see the 'positive' posters are the ones picking a fight on here, today and frankly all the time. The only thing 'negative' people have said as far as I can see is: Boruc is a good player that we should probably try to keep to retain the depth of our squad. Perhaps the situation could have been dealt with more positively so that he would have been less unsettled. What's negative about that? He's a good player and a decent guy with a fun character who is a winner. We want to keep him. He's better than the alternatives. He's not going to be our number one, but he's a great number two and will probably get a decent handful of games in one of Europe's top league and play a part in our success as a squad player. Problem is that you guys said the same about Morgan. Ooh, he wants to go, we'd better let him because we don't want players who don't want to play for our club. At the end of the day, the biggest positive that the club have done all closed season is taking the negative step of forcing Morgan to stay - something that the 'neggies' had been asking for since the start of the summer - a strong stance. All the positive news we've had since is a direct result of getting hard on outgoing players and saying enough is enough. Since then, bar speculation, we've stemmed the tide of unhappy players and added some exciting signings. And it's all been positive. So who is positive? The people who wanted to surrender or the people who felt we should take a stand and that our opinion did count for something?[/p][/quote]Not having a pop but I don't quite see your logic here. Personally I don't think Morgan should go and wish we'd taken the same stance with Lovren. On this one I think the club is doing the right thing with Artur. He doesn't want to sit on the bench - nothing wrong with that and nothing wrong with letting him leave. I haven't read every post on here today but don't feel I'm picking fights by being positive in the face of more criticism for the board. We have been hard on one player - the rest of the positive news you mention has come from reinvesting money, which is what they promised. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 0

4:03pm Fri 22 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

fascia123 wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
By the way, how many of the whingers on this thread are the same people who were proclaiming only a short while ago that the signing of Forster was finally proof of the club's ambition? Did you seriously think we'd pay £10m and then NOT make him first choice?
Whingers? Some of you supposedly positive people are so amazingly negative it is unbelievable. If someone dares say we should keep a player or could have done more to make him feel happy we are whining?

As far as I can see the 'positive' posters are the ones picking a fight on here, today and frankly all the time.

The only thing 'negative' people have said as far as I can see is: Boruc is a good player that we should probably try to keep to retain the depth of our squad. Perhaps the situation could have been dealt with more positively so that he would have been less unsettled.

What's negative about that? He's a good player and a decent guy with a fun character who is a winner. We want to keep him. He's better than the alternatives. He's not going to be our number one, but he's a great number two and will probably get a decent handful of games in one of Europe's top league and play a part in our success as a squad player.

Problem is that you guys said the same about Morgan. Ooh, he wants to go, we'd better let him because we don't want players who don't want to play for our club.

At the end of the day, the biggest positive that the club have done all closed season is taking the negative step of forcing Morgan to stay - something that the 'neggies' had been asking for since the start of the summer - a strong stance.

All the positive news we've had since is a direct result of getting hard on outgoing players and saying enough is enough.

Since then, bar speculation, we've stemmed the tide of unhappy players and added some exciting signings. And it's all been positive.

So who is positive? The people who wanted to surrender or the people who felt we should take a stand and that our opinion did count for something?
The selling of the players, the decision to keep Spyder and now it seems the decision to let Boruc go have all been made by this regime, I think and I can only speak for myself what peeps find frustrating is the continual mistrust and slagging off of the board etc, I will ask you have they done whole beep wrong?
What does your last sentence mean? I'm guessing you mean have they done much wrong?

No. So don't jump to call people whingers and neggies and suggest everyone who questions something accused the board of asset stripping - there were a handful of people who were mega stupidly negative, but most were Pompey fans bar the odd extreme example.

I won't even review the board until long into this season because I think they deserve better than that. Les Reed has been at the club for years, despite what you'd think from posters saying he's a clueless muppet, and he's done great things - I don't think writing him a school report is fair, especially not until we've seen how his revolution turns out.

I would say, as I always have, that the board were naive from January to June allowing our former manager to mislead them. Perhaps they were guilty themselves of not communicating our vision to the players or fans.

However, signing Ron was an astute move and the day after the sale of Chambers, for whatever reason, we started to turn things around.

At that point we started showing the outside world that we were taking charge and, even if we were always in charge, made it clear that enough was enough.

Since then I feel the board have done great. The incomings are good, the players bar one or two seem excited and committed and hopefully this silly fan infighting will end - reminds me of the Cork rumours where we were essentially fighting over nothing.

So let's not assume that anyone saying it would be good if we kept hold of Boruc is thus a rabid board hater. I think the board might have done some very good business this summer, but I'm not going to blindly trust or agree with every single decision.

I'm optimistic for the future and, because I take a balanced view, that won't change even if we were to lose on Saturday. I'll support them whatever and I'm not going to make swift judgements on either the board or any of the new players.

However, I do reserve the right to throw out the odd debating topic about decisions or players because that's half the fun of being a football fan - we are all armchair managers and long may it continue. I'm not into the creation of fan robots.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: By the way, how many of the whingers on this thread are the same people who were proclaiming only a short while ago that the signing of Forster was finally proof of the club's ambition? Did you seriously think we'd pay £10m and then NOT make him first choice?[/p][/quote]Whingers? Some of you supposedly positive people are so amazingly negative it is unbelievable. If someone dares say we should keep a player or could have done more to make him feel happy we are whining? As far as I can see the 'positive' posters are the ones picking a fight on here, today and frankly all the time. The only thing 'negative' people have said as far as I can see is: Boruc is a good player that we should probably try to keep to retain the depth of our squad. Perhaps the situation could have been dealt with more positively so that he would have been less unsettled. What's negative about that? He's a good player and a decent guy with a fun character who is a winner. We want to keep him. He's better than the alternatives. He's not going to be our number one, but he's a great number two and will probably get a decent handful of games in one of Europe's top league and play a part in our success as a squad player. Problem is that you guys said the same about Morgan. Ooh, he wants to go, we'd better let him because we don't want players who don't want to play for our club. At the end of the day, the biggest positive that the club have done all closed season is taking the negative step of forcing Morgan to stay - something that the 'neggies' had been asking for since the start of the summer - a strong stance. All the positive news we've had since is a direct result of getting hard on outgoing players and saying enough is enough. Since then, bar speculation, we've stemmed the tide of unhappy players and added some exciting signings. And it's all been positive. So who is positive? The people who wanted to surrender or the people who felt we should take a stand and that our opinion did count for something?[/p][/quote]The selling of the players, the decision to keep Spyder and now it seems the decision to let Boruc go have all been made by this regime, I think and I can only speak for myself what peeps find frustrating is the continual mistrust and slagging off of the board etc, I will ask you have they done whole beep wrong?[/p][/quote]What does your last sentence mean? I'm guessing you mean have they done much wrong? No. So don't jump to call people whingers and neggies and suggest everyone who questions something accused the board of asset stripping - there were a handful of people who were mega stupidly negative, but most were Pompey fans bar the odd extreme example. I won't even review the board until long into this season because I think they deserve better than that. Les Reed has been at the club for years, despite what you'd think from posters saying he's a clueless muppet, and he's done great things - I don't think writing him a school report is fair, especially not until we've seen how his revolution turns out. I would say, as I always have, that the board were naive from January to June allowing our former manager to mislead them. Perhaps they were guilty themselves of not communicating our vision to the players or fans. However, signing Ron was an astute move and the day after the sale of Chambers, for whatever reason, we started to turn things around. At that point we started showing the outside world that we were taking charge and, even if we were always in charge, made it clear that enough was enough. Since then I feel the board have done great. The incomings are good, the players bar one or two seem excited and committed and hopefully this silly fan infighting will end - reminds me of the Cork rumours where we were essentially fighting over nothing. So let's not assume that anyone saying it would be good if we kept hold of Boruc is thus a rabid board hater. I think the board might have done some very good business this summer, but I'm not going to blindly trust or agree with every single decision. I'm optimistic for the future and, because I take a balanced view, that won't change even if we were to lose on Saturday. I'll support them whatever and I'm not going to make swift judgements on either the board or any of the new players. However, I do reserve the right to throw out the odd debating topic about decisions or players because that's half the fun of being a football fan - we are all armchair managers and long may it continue. I'm not into the creation of fan robots. SaintJD
  • Score: 1

4:06pm Fri 22 Aug 14

long memory says...

I am wondering if RK took an instant dislike to AB as soon as he arrived to take his first training session with the players
If my memory serves me correctly,the first day back for training, AB decides thats the time to get married,after just having had 6 weeks off. Me thinks RK would have taken a very dim view of that,very unprofessional and extremely arrogant, by his standards.
I am wondering if RK took an instant dislike to AB as soon as he arrived to take his first training session with the players If my memory serves me correctly,the first day back for training, AB decides thats the time to get married,after just having had 6 weeks off. Me thinks RK would have taken a very dim view of that,very unprofessional and extremely arrogant, by his standards. long memory
  • Score: 9

4:08pm Fri 22 Aug 14

mickey01 says...

John Smith34 wrote:
The modern day footballer eh...loses his place so instantly wants to leave. What happened to knuckling down and fighting to get his place back...?
Its the same at chelsea
[quote][p][bold]John Smith34[/bold] wrote: The modern day footballer eh...loses his place so instantly wants to leave. What happened to knuckling down and fighting to get his place back...?[/p][/quote]Its the same at chelsea mickey01
  • Score: 0

4:08pm Fri 22 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
By the way, how many of the whingers on this thread are the same people who were proclaiming only a short while ago that the signing of Forster was finally proof of the club's ambition? Did you seriously think we'd pay £10m and then NOT make him first choice?
Whingers? Some of you supposedly positive people are so amazingly negative it is unbelievable. If someone dares say we should keep a player or could have done more to make him feel happy we are whining?

As far as I can see the 'positive' posters are the ones picking a fight on here, today and frankly all the time.

The only thing 'negative' people have said as far as I can see is: Boruc is a good player that we should probably try to keep to retain the depth of our squad. Perhaps the situation could have been dealt with more positively so that he would have been less unsettled.

What's negative about that? He's a good player and a decent guy with a fun character who is a winner. We want to keep him. He's better than the alternatives. He's not going to be our number one, but he's a great number two and will probably get a decent handful of games in one of Europe's top league and play a part in our success as a squad player.

Problem is that you guys said the same about Morgan. Ooh, he wants to go, we'd better let him because we don't want players who don't want to play for our club.

At the end of the day, the biggest positive that the club have done all closed season is taking the negative step of forcing Morgan to stay - something that the 'neggies' had been asking for since the start of the summer - a strong stance.

All the positive news we've had since is a direct result of getting hard on outgoing players and saying enough is enough.

Since then, bar speculation, we've stemmed the tide of unhappy players and added some exciting signings. And it's all been positive.

So who is positive? The people who wanted to surrender or the people who felt we should take a stand and that our opinion did count for something?
Not having a pop but I don't quite see your logic here. Personally I don't think Morgan should go and wish we'd taken the same stance with Lovren. On this one I think the club is doing the right thing with Artur. He doesn't want to sit on the bench - nothing wrong with that and nothing wrong with letting him leave. I haven't read every post on here today but don't feel I'm picking fights by being positive in the face of more criticism for the board.

We have been hard on one player - the rest of the positive news you mention has come from reinvesting money, which is what they promised.
That's the whole point of my post though - I've not criticised the board and can't see many others doing it either. The only thing that's been said by the people debating the point here is that the issue could have been handled better to keep Boruc happy. I can't see anyone saying sack the board here (unless I've missed some idiotic posts) - that's the imagination of the positive posters. All I've said is we should have done more to keep him happy and that, if he does go, we will lack depth in the goalkeeping position, unless we get someone else in. Doubt Ron wants four keepers though.
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: By the way, how many of the whingers on this thread are the same people who were proclaiming only a short while ago that the signing of Forster was finally proof of the club's ambition? Did you seriously think we'd pay £10m and then NOT make him first choice?[/p][/quote]Whingers? Some of you supposedly positive people are so amazingly negative it is unbelievable. If someone dares say we should keep a player or could have done more to make him feel happy we are whining? As far as I can see the 'positive' posters are the ones picking a fight on here, today and frankly all the time. The only thing 'negative' people have said as far as I can see is: Boruc is a good player that we should probably try to keep to retain the depth of our squad. Perhaps the situation could have been dealt with more positively so that he would have been less unsettled. What's negative about that? He's a good player and a decent guy with a fun character who is a winner. We want to keep him. He's better than the alternatives. He's not going to be our number one, but he's a great number two and will probably get a decent handful of games in one of Europe's top league and play a part in our success as a squad player. Problem is that you guys said the same about Morgan. Ooh, he wants to go, we'd better let him because we don't want players who don't want to play for our club. At the end of the day, the biggest positive that the club have done all closed season is taking the negative step of forcing Morgan to stay - something that the 'neggies' had been asking for since the start of the summer - a strong stance. All the positive news we've had since is a direct result of getting hard on outgoing players and saying enough is enough. Since then, bar speculation, we've stemmed the tide of unhappy players and added some exciting signings. And it's all been positive. So who is positive? The people who wanted to surrender or the people who felt we should take a stand and that our opinion did count for something?[/p][/quote]Not having a pop but I don't quite see your logic here. Personally I don't think Morgan should go and wish we'd taken the same stance with Lovren. On this one I think the club is doing the right thing with Artur. He doesn't want to sit on the bench - nothing wrong with that and nothing wrong with letting him leave. I haven't read every post on here today but don't feel I'm picking fights by being positive in the face of more criticism for the board. We have been hard on one player - the rest of the positive news you mention has come from reinvesting money, which is what they promised.[/p][/quote]That's the whole point of my post though - I've not criticised the board and can't see many others doing it either. The only thing that's been said by the people debating the point here is that the issue could have been handled better to keep Boruc happy. I can't see anyone saying sack the board here (unless I've missed some idiotic posts) - that's the imagination of the positive posters. All I've said is we should have done more to keep him happy and that, if he does go, we will lack depth in the goalkeeping position, unless we get someone else in. Doubt Ron wants four keepers though. SaintJD
  • Score: 1

4:14pm Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

SaintJD wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
By the way, how many of the whingers on this thread are the same people who were proclaiming only a short while ago that the signing of Forster was finally proof of the club's ambition? Did you seriously think we'd pay £10m and then NOT make him first choice?
Whingers? Some of you supposedly positive people are so amazingly negative it is unbelievable. If someone dares say we should keep a player or could have done more to make him feel happy we are whining?

As far as I can see the 'positive' posters are the ones picking a fight on here, today and frankly all the time.

The only thing 'negative' people have said as far as I can see is: Boruc is a good player that we should probably try to keep to retain the depth of our squad. Perhaps the situation could have been dealt with more positively so that he would have been less unsettled.

What's negative about that? He's a good player and a decent guy with a fun character who is a winner. We want to keep him. He's better than the alternatives. He's not going to be our number one, but he's a great number two and will probably get a decent handful of games in one of Europe's top league and play a part in our success as a squad player.

Problem is that you guys said the same about Morgan. Ooh, he wants to go, we'd better let him because we don't want players who don't want to play for our club.

At the end of the day, the biggest positive that the club have done all closed season is taking the negative step of forcing Morgan to stay - something that the 'neggies' had been asking for since the start of the summer - a strong stance.

All the positive news we've had since is a direct result of getting hard on outgoing players and saying enough is enough.

Since then, bar speculation, we've stemmed the tide of unhappy players and added some exciting signings. And it's all been positive.

So who is positive? The people who wanted to surrender or the people who felt we should take a stand and that our opinion did count for something?
The selling of the players, the decision to keep Spyder and now it seems the decision to let Boruc go have all been made by this regime, I think and I can only speak for myself what peeps find frustrating is the continual mistrust and slagging off of the board etc, I will ask you have they done whole beep wrong?
What does your last sentence mean? I'm guessing you mean have they done much wrong?

No. So don't jump to call people whingers and neggies and suggest everyone who questions something accused the board of asset stripping - there were a handful of people who were mega stupidly negative, but most were Pompey fans bar the odd extreme example.

I won't even review the board until long into this season because I think they deserve better than that. Les Reed has been at the club for years, despite what you'd think from posters saying he's a clueless muppet, and he's done great things - I don't think writing him a school report is fair, especially not until we've seen how his revolution turns out.

I would say, as I always have, that the board were naive from January to June allowing our former manager to mislead them. Perhaps they were guilty themselves of not communicating our vision to the players or fans.

However, signing Ron was an astute move and the day after the sale of Chambers, for whatever reason, we started to turn things around.

At that point we started showing the outside world that we were taking charge and, even if we were always in charge, made it clear that enough was enough.

Since then I feel the board have done great. The incomings are good, the players bar one or two seem excited and committed and hopefully this silly fan infighting will end - reminds me of the Cork rumours where we were essentially fighting over nothing.

So let's not assume that anyone saying it would be good if we kept hold of Boruc is thus a rabid board hater. I think the board might have done some very good business this summer, but I'm not going to blindly trust or agree with every single decision.

I'm optimistic for the future and, because I take a balanced view, that won't change even if we were to lose on Saturday. I'll support them whatever and I'm not going to make swift judgements on either the board or any of the new players.

However, I do reserve the right to throw out the odd debating topic about decisions or players because that's half the fun of being a football fan - we are all armchair managers and long may it continue. I'm not into the creation of fan robots.
Should say heap wrong, bloody spell checker.

I do exactly that challenge peoples theories/thoughts and chuck alternatives into the mix, I try not to have a go and won't critique rational posts but come on, one guy on here when Shaw was pronounced injured tried to suggest that it was our new waste of money training facilities, even though he had been at United for a month and played several games for them.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: By the way, how many of the whingers on this thread are the same people who were proclaiming only a short while ago that the signing of Forster was finally proof of the club's ambition? Did you seriously think we'd pay £10m and then NOT make him first choice?[/p][/quote]Whingers? Some of you supposedly positive people are so amazingly negative it is unbelievable. If someone dares say we should keep a player or could have done more to make him feel happy we are whining? As far as I can see the 'positive' posters are the ones picking a fight on here, today and frankly all the time. The only thing 'negative' people have said as far as I can see is: Boruc is a good player that we should probably try to keep to retain the depth of our squad. Perhaps the situation could have been dealt with more positively so that he would have been less unsettled. What's negative about that? He's a good player and a decent guy with a fun character who is a winner. We want to keep him. He's better than the alternatives. He's not going to be our number one, but he's a great number two and will probably get a decent handful of games in one of Europe's top league and play a part in our success as a squad player. Problem is that you guys said the same about Morgan. Ooh, he wants to go, we'd better let him because we don't want players who don't want to play for our club. At the end of the day, the biggest positive that the club have done all closed season is taking the negative step of forcing Morgan to stay - something that the 'neggies' had been asking for since the start of the summer - a strong stance. All the positive news we've had since is a direct result of getting hard on outgoing players and saying enough is enough. Since then, bar speculation, we've stemmed the tide of unhappy players and added some exciting signings. And it's all been positive. So who is positive? The people who wanted to surrender or the people who felt we should take a stand and that our opinion did count for something?[/p][/quote]The selling of the players, the decision to keep Spyder and now it seems the decision to let Boruc go have all been made by this regime, I think and I can only speak for myself what peeps find frustrating is the continual mistrust and slagging off of the board etc, I will ask you have they done whole beep wrong?[/p][/quote]What does your last sentence mean? I'm guessing you mean have they done much wrong? No. So don't jump to call people whingers and neggies and suggest everyone who questions something accused the board of asset stripping - there were a handful of people who were mega stupidly negative, but most were Pompey fans bar the odd extreme example. I won't even review the board until long into this season because I think they deserve better than that. Les Reed has been at the club for years, despite what you'd think from posters saying he's a clueless muppet, and he's done great things - I don't think writing him a school report is fair, especially not until we've seen how his revolution turns out. I would say, as I always have, that the board were naive from January to June allowing our former manager to mislead them. Perhaps they were guilty themselves of not communicating our vision to the players or fans. However, signing Ron was an astute move and the day after the sale of Chambers, for whatever reason, we started to turn things around. At that point we started showing the outside world that we were taking charge and, even if we were always in charge, made it clear that enough was enough. Since then I feel the board have done great. The incomings are good, the players bar one or two seem excited and committed and hopefully this silly fan infighting will end - reminds me of the Cork rumours where we were essentially fighting over nothing. So let's not assume that anyone saying it would be good if we kept hold of Boruc is thus a rabid board hater. I think the board might have done some very good business this summer, but I'm not going to blindly trust or agree with every single decision. I'm optimistic for the future and, because I take a balanced view, that won't change even if we were to lose on Saturday. I'll support them whatever and I'm not going to make swift judgements on either the board or any of the new players. However, I do reserve the right to throw out the odd debating topic about decisions or players because that's half the fun of being a football fan - we are all armchair managers and long may it continue. I'm not into the creation of fan robots.[/p][/quote]Should say heap wrong, bloody spell checker. I do exactly that challenge peoples theories/thoughts and chuck alternatives into the mix, I try not to have a go and won't critique rational posts but come on, one guy on here when Shaw was pronounced injured tried to suggest that it was our new waste of money training facilities, even though he had been at United for a month and played several games for them. fascia123
  • Score: 0

4:18pm Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

SaintJD wrote:
By the way, quick score update:

Summer positivity play-offs - final results:

Semi-final: Neggies 7-7 Clappers (Clappers win 5-4 on penalties, Lovren missed penalty)

Final: Clappers 7-14 Grounded, balanced, sensible people who are positive, but aren't wandering around blindfolded either positively or negatively and will question the odd decision.

Winners: Grounded balanced sensible people.
Oh I meant to ask which camp you fall into?
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: By the way, quick score update: Summer positivity play-offs - final results: Semi-final: Neggies 7-7 Clappers (Clappers win 5-4 on penalties, Lovren missed penalty) Final: Clappers 7-14 Grounded, balanced, sensible people who are positive, but aren't wandering around blindfolded either positively or negatively and will question the odd decision. Winners: Grounded balanced sensible people.[/p][/quote]Oh I meant to ask which camp you fall into? fascia123
  • Score: -2

4:22pm Fri 22 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
On a separate note I want to know what muppet thought it was a good idea to put a BT sport poster showing Spuds up above the Citroen garage opposite SMS? Oh and can someone pls tell Sky to sort their channel numbers out - I am fed up with getting pro-wrestling every time I think I'm putting on SSN !!!!!!! Thanks.
AGREE - about the BT Sport Poster. COYR+WS
Agree on the Sky numbering too - annoying,
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: On a separate note I want to know what muppet thought it was a good idea to put a BT sport poster showing Spuds up above the Citroen garage opposite SMS? Oh and can someone pls tell Sky to sort their channel numbers out - I am fed up with getting pro-wrestling every time I think I'm putting on SSN !!!!!!! Thanks.[/p][/quote]AGREE - about the BT Sport Poster. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]Agree on the Sky numbering too - annoying, SaintJD
  • Score: 3

4:31pm Fri 22 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

fascia123 wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
By the way, quick score update:

Summer positivity play-offs - final results:

Semi-final: Neggies 7-7 Clappers (Clappers win 5-4 on penalties, Lovren missed penalty)

Final: Clappers 7-14 Grounded, balanced, sensible people who are positive, but aren't wandering around blindfolded either positively or negatively and will question the odd decision.

Winners: Grounded balanced sensible people.
Oh I meant to ask which camp you fall into?
Clearly the grounded, well balanced (kind of) category :), which means this summer has been a bit schizophrenic, sometimes all within an eight hour period. The unfortunate thing about that is I get to argue and disagree with the majority of people at some point.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: By the way, quick score update: Summer positivity play-offs - final results: Semi-final: Neggies 7-7 Clappers (Clappers win 5-4 on penalties, Lovren missed penalty) Final: Clappers 7-14 Grounded, balanced, sensible people who are positive, but aren't wandering around blindfolded either positively or negatively and will question the odd decision. Winners: Grounded balanced sensible people.[/p][/quote]Oh I meant to ask which camp you fall into?[/p][/quote]Clearly the grounded, well balanced (kind of) category :), which means this summer has been a bit schizophrenic, sometimes all within an eight hour period. The unfortunate thing about that is I get to argue and disagree with the majority of people at some point. SaintJD
  • Score: 3

4:37pm Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

SaintJD wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
By the way, quick score update:

Summer positivity play-offs - final results:

Semi-final: Neggies 7-7 Clappers (Clappers win 5-4 on penalties, Lovren missed penalty)

Final: Clappers 7-14 Grounded, balanced, sensible people who are positive, but aren't wandering around blindfolded either positively or negatively and will question the odd decision.

Winners: Grounded balanced sensible people.
Oh I meant to ask which camp you fall into?
Clearly the grounded, well balanced (kind of) category :), which means this summer has been a bit schizophrenic, sometimes all within an eight hour period. The unfortunate thing about that is I get to argue and disagree with the majority of people at some point.
Poor chap, I think I'm a bit single minded for this type of site but I am learning fast and I know you will complain at this but I will say it anyway, if you get the right people online it's a very entertaining and interesting place to be.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: By the way, quick score update: Summer positivity play-offs - final results: Semi-final: Neggies 7-7 Clappers (Clappers win 5-4 on penalties, Lovren missed penalty) Final: Clappers 7-14 Grounded, balanced, sensible people who are positive, but aren't wandering around blindfolded either positively or negatively and will question the odd decision. Winners: Grounded balanced sensible people.[/p][/quote]Oh I meant to ask which camp you fall into?[/p][/quote]Clearly the grounded, well balanced (kind of) category :), which means this summer has been a bit schizophrenic, sometimes all within an eight hour period. The unfortunate thing about that is I get to argue and disagree with the majority of people at some point.[/p][/quote]Poor chap, I think I'm a bit single minded for this type of site but I am learning fast and I know you will complain at this but I will say it anyway, if you get the right people online it's a very entertaining and interesting place to be. fascia123
  • Score: 0

4:38pm Fri 22 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

fascia123 wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
By the way, how many of the whingers on this thread are the same people who were proclaiming only a short while ago that the signing of Forster was finally proof of the club's ambition? Did you seriously think we'd pay £10m and then NOT make him first choice?
Whingers? Some of you supposedly positive people are so amazingly negative it is unbelievable. If someone dares say we should keep a player or could have done more to make him feel happy we are whining?

As far as I can see the 'positive' posters are the ones picking a fight on here, today and frankly all the time.

The only thing 'negative' people have said as far as I can see is: Boruc is a good player that we should probably try to keep to retain the depth of our squad. Perhaps the situation could have been dealt with more positively so that he would have been less unsettled.

What's negative about that? He's a good player and a decent guy with a fun character who is a winner. We want to keep him. He's better than the alternatives. He's not going to be our number one, but he's a great number two and will probably get a decent handful of games in one of Europe's top league and play a part in our success as a squad player.

Problem is that you guys said the same about Morgan. Ooh, he wants to go, we'd better let him because we don't want players who don't want to play for our club.

At the end of the day, the biggest positive that the club have done all closed season is taking the negative step of forcing Morgan to stay - something that the 'neggies' had been asking for since the start of the summer - a strong stance.

All the positive news we've had since is a direct result of getting hard on outgoing players and saying enough is enough.

Since then, bar speculation, we've stemmed the tide of unhappy players and added some exciting signings. And it's all been positive.

So who is positive? The people who wanted to surrender or the people who felt we should take a stand and that our opinion did count for something?
The selling of the players, the decision to keep Spyder and now it seems the decision to let Boruc go have all been made by this regime, I think and I can only speak for myself what peeps find frustrating is the continual mistrust and slagging off of the board etc, I will ask you have they done whole beep wrong?
What does your last sentence mean? I'm guessing you mean have they done much wrong?

No. So don't jump to call people whingers and neggies and suggest everyone who questions something accused the board of asset stripping - there were a handful of people who were mega stupidly negative, but most were Pompey fans bar the odd extreme example.

I won't even review the board until long into this season because I think they deserve better than that. Les Reed has been at the club for years, despite what you'd think from posters saying he's a clueless muppet, and he's done great things - I don't think writing him a school report is fair, especially not until we've seen how his revolution turns out.

I would say, as I always have, that the board were naive from January to June allowing our former manager to mislead them. Perhaps they were guilty themselves of not communicating our vision to the players or fans.

However, signing Ron was an astute move and the day after the sale of Chambers, for whatever reason, we started to turn things around.

At that point we started showing the outside world that we were taking charge and, even if we were always in charge, made it clear that enough was enough.

Since then I feel the board have done great. The incomings are good, the players bar one or two seem excited and committed and hopefully this silly fan infighting will end - reminds me of the Cork rumours where we were essentially fighting over nothing.

So let's not assume that anyone saying it would be good if we kept hold of Boruc is thus a rabid board hater. I think the board might have done some very good business this summer, but I'm not going to blindly trust or agree with every single decision.

I'm optimistic for the future and, because I take a balanced view, that won't change even if we were to lose on Saturday. I'll support them whatever and I'm not going to make swift judgements on either the board or any of the new players.

However, I do reserve the right to throw out the odd debating topic about decisions or players because that's half the fun of being a football fan - we are all armchair managers and long may it continue. I'm not into the creation of fan robots.
Should say heap wrong, bloody spell checker.

I do exactly that challenge peoples theories/thoughts and chuck alternatives into the mix, I try not to have a go and won't critique rational posts but come on, one guy on here when Shaw was pronounced injured tried to suggest that it was our new waste of money training facilities, even though he had been at United for a month and played several games for them.
Absolutely, it's the extremes I'm having a go at, both positive and negative. The extreme negative ones hardly warrant answering,.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: By the way, how many of the whingers on this thread are the same people who were proclaiming only a short while ago that the signing of Forster was finally proof of the club's ambition? Did you seriously think we'd pay £10m and then NOT make him first choice?[/p][/quote]Whingers? Some of you supposedly positive people are so amazingly negative it is unbelievable. If someone dares say we should keep a player or could have done more to make him feel happy we are whining? As far as I can see the 'positive' posters are the ones picking a fight on here, today and frankly all the time. The only thing 'negative' people have said as far as I can see is: Boruc is a good player that we should probably try to keep to retain the depth of our squad. Perhaps the situation could have been dealt with more positively so that he would have been less unsettled. What's negative about that? He's a good player and a decent guy with a fun character who is a winner. We want to keep him. He's better than the alternatives. He's not going to be our number one, but he's a great number two and will probably get a decent handful of games in one of Europe's top league and play a part in our success as a squad player. Problem is that you guys said the same about Morgan. Ooh, he wants to go, we'd better let him because we don't want players who don't want to play for our club. At the end of the day, the biggest positive that the club have done all closed season is taking the negative step of forcing Morgan to stay - something that the 'neggies' had been asking for since the start of the summer - a strong stance. All the positive news we've had since is a direct result of getting hard on outgoing players and saying enough is enough. Since then, bar speculation, we've stemmed the tide of unhappy players and added some exciting signings. And it's all been positive. So who is positive? The people who wanted to surrender or the people who felt we should take a stand and that our opinion did count for something?[/p][/quote]The selling of the players, the decision to keep Spyder and now it seems the decision to let Boruc go have all been made by this regime, I think and I can only speak for myself what peeps find frustrating is the continual mistrust and slagging off of the board etc, I will ask you have they done whole beep wrong?[/p][/quote]What does your last sentence mean? I'm guessing you mean have they done much wrong? No. So don't jump to call people whingers and neggies and suggest everyone who questions something accused the board of asset stripping - there were a handful of people who were mega stupidly negative, but most were Pompey fans bar the odd extreme example. I won't even review the board until long into this season because I think they deserve better than that. Les Reed has been at the club for years, despite what you'd think from posters saying he's a clueless muppet, and he's done great things - I don't think writing him a school report is fair, especially not until we've seen how his revolution turns out. I would say, as I always have, that the board were naive from January to June allowing our former manager to mislead them. Perhaps they were guilty themselves of not communicating our vision to the players or fans. However, signing Ron was an astute move and the day after the sale of Chambers, for whatever reason, we started to turn things around. At that point we started showing the outside world that we were taking charge and, even if we were always in charge, made it clear that enough was enough. Since then I feel the board have done great. The incomings are good, the players bar one or two seem excited and committed and hopefully this silly fan infighting will end - reminds me of the Cork rumours where we were essentially fighting over nothing. So let's not assume that anyone saying it would be good if we kept hold of Boruc is thus a rabid board hater. I think the board might have done some very good business this summer, but I'm not going to blindly trust or agree with every single decision. I'm optimistic for the future and, because I take a balanced view, that won't change even if we were to lose on Saturday. I'll support them whatever and I'm not going to make swift judgements on either the board or any of the new players. However, I do reserve the right to throw out the odd debating topic about decisions or players because that's half the fun of being a football fan - we are all armchair managers and long may it continue. I'm not into the creation of fan robots.[/p][/quote]Should say heap wrong, bloody spell checker. I do exactly that challenge peoples theories/thoughts and chuck alternatives into the mix, I try not to have a go and won't critique rational posts but come on, one guy on here when Shaw was pronounced injured tried to suggest that it was our new waste of money training facilities, even though he had been at United for a month and played several games for them.[/p][/quote]Absolutely, it's the extremes I'm having a go at, both positive and negative. The extreme negative ones hardly warrant answering,. SaintJD
  • Score: 2

4:42pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

SaintJD said, "I can't see anyone saying sack the board here (unless I've missed some idiotic posts) - that's the imagination of the positive posters." I think I'm a positive poster, and I never imagined that anyone was suggesting we sack the board. It seems to me that you are having a problem specifically with InsideOutCat and maybe Fascia, not with positive posters in general.

I would love Artur to stay, but I don't think he's the type to accept sitting on the bench as his fate, so I'm resigned to him leaving. I think Scheiderlin's case is different. He isn't being kept to sit on the bench. He's being kept to play every week.
SaintJD said, "I can't see anyone saying sack the board here (unless I've missed some idiotic posts) - that's the imagination of the positive posters." I think I'm a positive poster, and I never imagined that anyone was suggesting we sack the board. It seems to me that you are having a problem specifically with InsideOutCat and maybe Fascia, not with positive posters in general. I would love Artur to stay, but I don't think he's the type to accept sitting on the bench as his fate, so I'm resigned to him leaving. I think Scheiderlin's case is different. He isn't being kept to sit on the bench. He's being kept to play every week. Rising_Son
  • Score: 3

4:43pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

Rising_Son wrote:
SaintJD said, "I can't see anyone saying sack the board here (unless I've missed some idiotic posts) - that's the imagination of the positive posters." I think I'm a positive poster, and I never imagined that anyone was suggesting we sack the board. It seems to me that you are having a problem specifically with InsideOutCat and maybe Fascia, not with positive posters in general.

I would love Artur to stay, but I don't think he's the type to accept sitting on the bench as his fate, so I'm resigned to him leaving. I think Scheiderlin's case is different. He isn't being kept to sit on the bench. He's being kept to play every week.
Spot on agree.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: SaintJD said, "I can't see anyone saying sack the board here (unless I've missed some idiotic posts) - that's the imagination of the positive posters." I think I'm a positive poster, and I never imagined that anyone was suggesting we sack the board. It seems to me that you are having a problem specifically with InsideOutCat and maybe Fascia, not with positive posters in general. I would love Artur to stay, but I don't think he's the type to accept sitting on the bench as his fate, so I'm resigned to him leaving. I think Scheiderlin's case is different. He isn't being kept to sit on the bench. He's being kept to play every week.[/p][/quote]Spot on agree. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 2

4:46pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

SaintJD wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
By the way, how many of the whingers on this thread are the same people who were proclaiming only a short while ago that the signing of Forster was finally proof of the club's ambition? Did you seriously think we'd pay £10m and then NOT make him first choice?
Whingers? Some of you supposedly positive people are so amazingly negative it is unbelievable. If someone dares say we should keep a player or could have done more to make him feel happy we are whining?

As far as I can see the 'positive' posters are the ones picking a fight on here, today and frankly all the time.

The only thing 'negative' people have said as far as I can see is: Boruc is a good player that we should probably try to keep to retain the depth of our squad. Perhaps the situation could have been dealt with more positively so that he would have been less unsettled.

What's negative about that? He's a good player and a decent guy with a fun character who is a winner. We want to keep him. He's better than the alternatives. He's not going to be our number one, but he's a great number two and will probably get a decent handful of games in one of Europe's top league and play a part in our success as a squad player.

Problem is that you guys said the same about Morgan. Ooh, he wants to go, we'd better let him because we don't want players who don't want to play for our club.

At the end of the day, the biggest positive that the club have done all closed season is taking the negative step of forcing Morgan to stay - something that the 'neggies' had been asking for since the start of the summer - a strong stance.

All the positive news we've had since is a direct result of getting hard on outgoing players and saying enough is enough.

Since then, bar speculation, we've stemmed the tide of unhappy players and added some exciting signings. And it's all been positive.

So who is positive? The people who wanted to surrender or the people who felt we should take a stand and that our opinion did count for something?
Not having a pop but I don't quite see your logic here. Personally I don't think Morgan should go and wish we'd taken the same stance with Lovren. On this one I think the club is doing the right thing with Artur. He doesn't want to sit on the bench - nothing wrong with that and nothing wrong with letting him leave. I haven't read every post on here today but don't feel I'm picking fights by being positive in the face of more criticism for the board.

We have been hard on one player - the rest of the positive news you mention has come from reinvesting money, which is what they promised.
That's the whole point of my post though - I've not criticised the board and can't see many others doing it either. The only thing that's been said by the people debating the point here is that the issue could have been handled better to keep Boruc happy. I can't see anyone saying sack the board here (unless I've missed some idiotic posts) - that's the imagination of the positive posters. All I've said is we should have done more to keep him happy and that, if he does go, we will lack depth in the goalkeeping position, unless we get someone else in. Doubt Ron wants four keepers though.
Definitely think we need more goalkeeping cover, as an understudy to Forster. Boruc not the ideal candidate for that though, in my opinion.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: By the way, how many of the whingers on this thread are the same people who were proclaiming only a short while ago that the signing of Forster was finally proof of the club's ambition? Did you seriously think we'd pay £10m and then NOT make him first choice?[/p][/quote]Whingers? Some of you supposedly positive people are so amazingly negative it is unbelievable. If someone dares say we should keep a player or could have done more to make him feel happy we are whining? As far as I can see the 'positive' posters are the ones picking a fight on here, today and frankly all the time. The only thing 'negative' people have said as far as I can see is: Boruc is a good player that we should probably try to keep to retain the depth of our squad. Perhaps the situation could have been dealt with more positively so that he would have been less unsettled. What's negative about that? He's a good player and a decent guy with a fun character who is a winner. We want to keep him. He's better than the alternatives. He's not going to be our number one, but he's a great number two and will probably get a decent handful of games in one of Europe's top league and play a part in our success as a squad player. Problem is that you guys said the same about Morgan. Ooh, he wants to go, we'd better let him because we don't want players who don't want to play for our club. At the end of the day, the biggest positive that the club have done all closed season is taking the negative step of forcing Morgan to stay - something that the 'neggies' had been asking for since the start of the summer - a strong stance. All the positive news we've had since is a direct result of getting hard on outgoing players and saying enough is enough. Since then, bar speculation, we've stemmed the tide of unhappy players and added some exciting signings. And it's all been positive. So who is positive? The people who wanted to surrender or the people who felt we should take a stand and that our opinion did count for something?[/p][/quote]Not having a pop but I don't quite see your logic here. Personally I don't think Morgan should go and wish we'd taken the same stance with Lovren. On this one I think the club is doing the right thing with Artur. He doesn't want to sit on the bench - nothing wrong with that and nothing wrong with letting him leave. I haven't read every post on here today but don't feel I'm picking fights by being positive in the face of more criticism for the board. We have been hard on one player - the rest of the positive news you mention has come from reinvesting money, which is what they promised.[/p][/quote]That's the whole point of my post though - I've not criticised the board and can't see many others doing it either. The only thing that's been said by the people debating the point here is that the issue could have been handled better to keep Boruc happy. I can't see anyone saying sack the board here (unless I've missed some idiotic posts) - that's the imagination of the positive posters. All I've said is we should have done more to keep him happy and that, if he does go, we will lack depth in the goalkeeping position, unless we get someone else in. Doubt Ron wants four keepers though.[/p][/quote]Definitely think we need more goalkeeping cover, as an understudy to Forster. Boruc not the ideal candidate for that though, in my opinion. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: -1

4:49pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

fascia123 wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
By the way, quick score update:

Summer positivity play-offs - final results:

Semi-final: Neggies 7-7 Clappers (Clappers win 5-4 on penalties, Lovren missed penalty)

Final: Clappers 7-14 Grounded, balanced, sensible people who are positive, but aren't wandering around blindfolded either positively or negatively and will question the odd decision.

Winners: Grounded balanced sensible people.
Oh I meant to ask which camp you fall into?
Clearly the grounded, well balanced (kind of) category :), which means this summer has been a bit schizophrenic, sometimes all within an eight hour period. The unfortunate thing about that is I get to argue and disagree with the majority of people at some point.
Poor chap, I think I'm a bit single minded for this type of site but I am learning fast and I know you will complain at this but I will say it anyway, if you get the right people online it's a very entertaining and interesting place to be.
The site has definitely swung from one side to another!! It's the people who Google and quote other people's old posts from say 2011 who scare me!

Risingson said a while back I needed to make a choice between keeping my job and 'living on the thread.' I have chosen job :o)
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: By the way, quick score update: Summer positivity play-offs - final results: Semi-final: Neggies 7-7 Clappers (Clappers win 5-4 on penalties, Lovren missed penalty) Final: Clappers 7-14 Grounded, balanced, sensible people who are positive, but aren't wandering around blindfolded either positively or negatively and will question the odd decision. Winners: Grounded balanced sensible people.[/p][/quote]Oh I meant to ask which camp you fall into?[/p][/quote]Clearly the grounded, well balanced (kind of) category :), which means this summer has been a bit schizophrenic, sometimes all within an eight hour period. The unfortunate thing about that is I get to argue and disagree with the majority of people at some point.[/p][/quote]Poor chap, I think I'm a bit single minded for this type of site but I am learning fast and I know you will complain at this but I will say it anyway, if you get the right people online it's a very entertaining and interesting place to be.[/p][/quote]The site has definitely swung from one side to another!! It's the people who Google and quote other people's old posts from say 2011 who scare me! Risingson said a while back I needed to make a choice between keeping my job and 'living on the thread.' I have chosen job :o) Frankie Bennett
  • Score: -1

4:49pm Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
SaintJD said, "I can't see anyone saying sack the board here (unless I've missed some idiotic posts) - that's the imagination of the positive posters." I think I'm a positive poster, and I never imagined that anyone was suggesting we sack the board. It seems to me that you are having a problem specifically with InsideOutCat and maybe Fascia, not with positive posters in general.

I would love Artur to stay, but I don't think he's the type to accept sitting on the bench as his fate, so I'm resigned to him leaving. I think Scheiderlin's case is different. He isn't being kept to sit on the bench. He's being kept to play every week.
Spot on agree.
Fascia, critical of the board, me?
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: SaintJD said, "I can't see anyone saying sack the board here (unless I've missed some idiotic posts) - that's the imagination of the positive posters." I think I'm a positive poster, and I never imagined that anyone was suggesting we sack the board. It seems to me that you are having a problem specifically with InsideOutCat and maybe Fascia, not with positive posters in general. I would love Artur to stay, but I don't think he's the type to accept sitting on the bench as his fate, so I'm resigned to him leaving. I think Scheiderlin's case is different. He isn't being kept to sit on the bench. He's being kept to play every week.[/p][/quote]Spot on agree.[/p][/quote]Fascia, critical of the board, me? fascia123
  • Score: 0

4:54pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
SaintJD said, "I can't see anyone saying sack the board here (unless I've missed some idiotic posts) - that's the imagination of the positive posters." I think I'm a positive poster, and I never imagined that anyone was suggesting we sack the board. It seems to me that you are having a problem specifically with InsideOutCat and maybe Fascia, not with positive posters in general.

I would love Artur to stay, but I don't think he's the type to accept sitting on the bench as his fate, so I'm resigned to him leaving. I think Scheiderlin's case is different. He isn't being kept to sit on the bench. He's being kept to play every week.
Spot on agree.
Fascia, critical of the board, me?
I was agreeing with the bit about Boruc and Schneiderlin.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: SaintJD said, "I can't see anyone saying sack the board here (unless I've missed some idiotic posts) - that's the imagination of the positive posters." I think I'm a positive poster, and I never imagined that anyone was suggesting we sack the board. It seems to me that you are having a problem specifically with InsideOutCat and maybe Fascia, not with positive posters in general. I would love Artur to stay, but I don't think he's the type to accept sitting on the bench as his fate, so I'm resigned to him leaving. I think Scheiderlin's case is different. He isn't being kept to sit on the bench. He's being kept to play every week.[/p][/quote]Spot on agree.[/p][/quote]Fascia, critical of the board, me?[/p][/quote]I was agreeing with the bit about Boruc and Schneiderlin. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: -1

4:55pm Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
SaintJD said, "I can't see anyone saying sack the board here (unless I've missed some idiotic posts) - that's the imagination of the positive posters." I think I'm a positive poster, and I never imagined that anyone was suggesting we sack the board. It seems to me that you are having a problem specifically with InsideOutCat and maybe Fascia, not with positive posters in general.

I would love Artur to stay, but I don't think he's the type to accept sitting on the bench as his fate, so I'm resigned to him leaving. I think Scheiderlin's case is different. He isn't being kept to sit on the bench. He's being kept to play every week.
Spot on agree.
Fascia, critical of the board, me?
I was agreeing with the bit about Boruc and Schneiderlin.
Only jesting.

Prediction for tomorrow?
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: SaintJD said, "I can't see anyone saying sack the board here (unless I've missed some idiotic posts) - that's the imagination of the positive posters." I think I'm a positive poster, and I never imagined that anyone was suggesting we sack the board. It seems to me that you are having a problem specifically with InsideOutCat and maybe Fascia, not with positive posters in general. I would love Artur to stay, but I don't think he's the type to accept sitting on the bench as his fate, so I'm resigned to him leaving. I think Scheiderlin's case is different. He isn't being kept to sit on the bench. He's being kept to play every week.[/p][/quote]Spot on agree.[/p][/quote]Fascia, critical of the board, me?[/p][/quote]I was agreeing with the bit about Boruc and Schneiderlin.[/p][/quote]Only jesting. Prediction for tomorrow? fascia123
  • Score: -2

4:56pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
SaintJD said, "I can't see anyone saying sack the board here (unless I've missed some idiotic posts) - that's the imagination of the positive posters." I think I'm a positive poster, and I never imagined that anyone was suggesting we sack the board. It seems to me that you are having a problem specifically with InsideOutCat and maybe Fascia, not with positive posters in general.

I would love Artur to stay, but I don't think he's the type to accept sitting on the bench as his fate, so I'm resigned to him leaving. I think Scheiderlin's case is different. He isn't being kept to sit on the bench. He's being kept to play every week.
Spot on agree.
Fascia, critical of the board, me?
That's why there was a maybe. You seemed to be responding to that post in an untypically negative way. I wasn't sure.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: SaintJD said, "I can't see anyone saying sack the board here (unless I've missed some idiotic posts) - that's the imagination of the positive posters." I think I'm a positive poster, and I never imagined that anyone was suggesting we sack the board. It seems to me that you are having a problem specifically with InsideOutCat and maybe Fascia, not with positive posters in general. I would love Artur to stay, but I don't think he's the type to accept sitting on the bench as his fate, so I'm resigned to him leaving. I think Scheiderlin's case is different. He isn't being kept to sit on the bench. He's being kept to play every week.[/p][/quote]Spot on agree.[/p][/quote]Fascia, critical of the board, me?[/p][/quote]That's why there was a maybe. You seemed to be responding to that post in an untypically negative way. I wasn't sure. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

4:59pm Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Rising_Son wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
SaintJD said, "I can't see anyone saying sack the board here (unless I've missed some idiotic posts) - that's the imagination of the positive posters." I think I'm a positive poster, and I never imagined that anyone was suggesting we sack the board. It seems to me that you are having a problem specifically with InsideOutCat and maybe Fascia, not with positive posters in general.

I would love Artur to stay, but I don't think he's the type to accept sitting on the bench as his fate, so I'm resigned to him leaving. I think Scheiderlin's case is different. He isn't being kept to sit on the bench. He's being kept to play every week.
Spot on agree.
Fascia, critical of the board, me?
That's why there was a maybe. You seemed to be responding to that post in an untypically negative way. I wasn't sure.
Me never negative not about Saints, I find this whole blog texting stuff if you ain't careful you can come over as having a go when you don't mean to, I think it must be an age thing.

Prediction for tomorrow?
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: SaintJD said, "I can't see anyone saying sack the board here (unless I've missed some idiotic posts) - that's the imagination of the positive posters." I think I'm a positive poster, and I never imagined that anyone was suggesting we sack the board. It seems to me that you are having a problem specifically with InsideOutCat and maybe Fascia, not with positive posters in general. I would love Artur to stay, but I don't think he's the type to accept sitting on the bench as his fate, so I'm resigned to him leaving. I think Scheiderlin's case is different. He isn't being kept to sit on the bench. He's being kept to play every week.[/p][/quote]Spot on agree.[/p][/quote]Fascia, critical of the board, me?[/p][/quote]That's why there was a maybe. You seemed to be responding to that post in an untypically negative way. I wasn't sure.[/p][/quote]Me never negative not about Saints, I find this whole blog texting stuff if you ain't careful you can come over as having a go when you don't mean to, I think it must be an age thing. Prediction for tomorrow? fascia123
  • Score: -1

5:07pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
SaintJD said, "I can't see anyone saying sack the board here (unless I've missed some idiotic posts) - that's the imagination of the positive posters." I think I'm a positive poster, and I never imagined that anyone was suggesting we sack the board. It seems to me that you are having a problem specifically with InsideOutCat and maybe Fascia, not with positive posters in general.

I would love Artur to stay, but I don't think he's the type to accept sitting on the bench as his fate, so I'm resigned to him leaving. I think Scheiderlin's case is different. He isn't being kept to sit on the bench. He's being kept to play every week.
Spot on agree.
Fascia, critical of the board, me?
I was agreeing with the bit about Boruc and Schneiderlin.
Only jesting.

Prediction for tomorrow?
2-0 Saints. If we play like e do against Liverpool could be better. Baggies are my Outlaw's team, so this is very much a grudge match for me!
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: SaintJD said, "I can't see anyone saying sack the board here (unless I've missed some idiotic posts) - that's the imagination of the positive posters." I think I'm a positive poster, and I never imagined that anyone was suggesting we sack the board. It seems to me that you are having a problem specifically with InsideOutCat and maybe Fascia, not with positive posters in general. I would love Artur to stay, but I don't think he's the type to accept sitting on the bench as his fate, so I'm resigned to him leaving. I think Scheiderlin's case is different. He isn't being kept to sit on the bench. He's being kept to play every week.[/p][/quote]Spot on agree.[/p][/quote]Fascia, critical of the board, me?[/p][/quote]I was agreeing with the bit about Boruc and Schneiderlin.[/p][/quote]Only jesting. Prediction for tomorrow?[/p][/quote]2-0 Saints. If we play like e do against Liverpool could be better. Baggies are my Outlaw's team, so this is very much a grudge match for me! Frankie Bennett
  • Score: -1

5:18pm Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
SaintJD said, "I can't see anyone saying sack the board here (unless I've missed some idiotic posts) - that's the imagination of the positive posters." I think I'm a positive poster, and I never imagined that anyone was suggesting we sack the board. It seems to me that you are having a problem specifically with InsideOutCat and maybe Fascia, not with positive posters in general.

I would love Artur to stay, but I don't think he's the type to accept sitting on the bench as his fate, so I'm resigned to him leaving. I think Scheiderlin's case is different. He isn't being kept to sit on the bench. He's being kept to play every week.
Spot on agree.
Fascia, critical of the board, me?
I was agreeing with the bit about Boruc and Schneiderlin.
Only jesting.

Prediction for tomorrow?
2-0 Saints. If we play like e do against Liverpool could be better. Baggies are my Outlaw's team, so this is very much a grudge match for me!
My dad's family are Aston in Birmangham so that was always the grudge fixture.

I am going to have a bet on 2-1 saints, I don't mind losing my money as long as get three points.

Quite excited first year in new seats in Itchen with my two sons so must get a win.
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: SaintJD said, "I can't see anyone saying sack the board here (unless I've missed some idiotic posts) - that's the imagination of the positive posters." I think I'm a positive poster, and I never imagined that anyone was suggesting we sack the board. It seems to me that you are having a problem specifically with InsideOutCat and maybe Fascia, not with positive posters in general. I would love Artur to stay, but I don't think he's the type to accept sitting on the bench as his fate, so I'm resigned to him leaving. I think Scheiderlin's case is different. He isn't being kept to sit on the bench. He's being kept to play every week.[/p][/quote]Spot on agree.[/p][/quote]Fascia, critical of the board, me?[/p][/quote]I was agreeing with the bit about Boruc and Schneiderlin.[/p][/quote]Only jesting. Prediction for tomorrow?[/p][/quote]2-0 Saints. If we play like e do against Liverpool could be better. Baggies are my Outlaw's team, so this is very much a grudge match for me![/p][/quote]My dad's family are Aston in Birmangham so that was always the grudge fixture. I am going to have a bet on 2-1 saints, I don't mind losing my money as long as get three points. Quite excited first year in new seats in Itchen with my two sons so must get a win. fascia123
  • Score: 0

5:39pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Mush On The Beach says...

Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog.

No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle.

I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!!

Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.
Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog. No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle. I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!! Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 6

5:43pm Fri 22 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog.

No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle.

I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!!

Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.
Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog. No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle. I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!! Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.[/p][/quote]Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands. fascia123
  • Score: -2

5:46pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Fascia said, "surely there comes a point where we have to trust the establishment are making the right choices." Of course, one choice is to trust them and another is to distrust them. A third choice is to do neither, but accept that they have the right to make thier decisions and the only real right we have is to like it or lump it.
No point in commenting at all then.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: Fascia said, "surely there comes a point where we have to trust the establishment are making the right choices." Of course, one choice is to trust them and another is to distrust them. A third choice is to do neither, but accept that they have the right to make thier decisions and the only real right we have is to like it or lump it.[/p][/quote]No point in commenting at all then. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

5:50pm Fri 22 Aug 14

jls217 says...

costa gaz wrote:
jls217 wrote:
CJMatley wrote:
Arthur is a great keeper.
Mystified by the £10M signing of Frazer.
Fear Frazer lacks Arthur's agility,confidence and ability to stop low shots.
At Celtic goalkeepers are part timers...spend most of their time watching the game... collect medals etc
Borat is 34, FF is not.

I think you'll find we got Borat from a certain Scottish club.

Borat is a great keeper but we need competition in all positions - his choice to leave or to fight for his place.
We never got him from a certain scottish club, he was releasedfrom Fiorentina .
Not my day is it.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CJMatley[/bold] wrote: Arthur is a great keeper. Mystified by the £10M signing of Frazer. Fear Frazer lacks Arthur's agility,confidence and ability to stop low shots. At Celtic goalkeepers are part timers...spend most of their time watching the game... collect medals etc[/p][/quote]Borat is 34, FF is not. I think you'll find we got Borat from a certain Scottish club. Borat is a great keeper but we need competition in all positions - his choice to leave or to fight for his place.[/p][/quote]We never got him from a certain scottish club, he was releasedfrom Fiorentina .[/p][/quote]Not my day is it. jls217
  • Score: -1

6:08pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Saintade says...

Great. So we're back to one good goalie again. Back to square one if you ask me. Gazza is rubbish and Kelvin can't kick a ball (well neither could Boruc to be fair!). We need another good quality backup NOW, perhaps someone who's got the balls to fight for their place. Forster gets injured and we're sunk.
Great. So we're back to one good goalie again. Back to square one if you ask me. Gazza is rubbish and Kelvin can't kick a ball (well neither could Boruc to be fair!). We need another good quality backup NOW, perhaps someone who's got the balls to fight for their place. Forster gets injured and we're sunk. Saintade
  • Score: 3

6:12pm Fri 22 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

fascia123 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog.

No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle.

I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!!

Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.
Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.
You told me you've been here for years a couple of days ago... just saying.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog. No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle. I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!! Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.[/p][/quote]Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.[/p][/quote]You told me you've been here for years a couple of days ago... just saying. costa gaz
  • Score: 4

6:46pm Fri 22 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog.

No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle.

I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!!

Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.
Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.
You told me you've been here for years a couple of days ago... just saying.
You always smell a rat when sh1tehawk is not posting - as he is a constant positive poster to the extreme and attention seeker - one of his many log ins today on this thread methinks.
COYRWS
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog. No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle. I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!! Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.[/p][/quote]Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.[/p][/quote]You told me you've been here for years a couple of days ago... just saying.[/p][/quote]You always smell a rat when sh1tehawk is not posting - as he is a constant positive poster to the extreme and attention seeker - one of his many log ins today on this thread methinks. COYRWS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: -1

7:15pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
SaintJD said, "I can't see anyone saying sack the board here (unless I've missed some idiotic posts) - that's the imagination of the positive posters." I think I'm a positive poster, and I never imagined that anyone was suggesting we sack the board. It seems to me that you are having a problem specifically with InsideOutCat and maybe Fascia, not with positive posters in general.

I would love Artur to stay, but I don't think he's the type to accept sitting on the bench as his fate, so I'm resigned to him leaving. I think Scheiderlin's case is different. He isn't being kept to sit on the bench. He's being kept to play every week.
Spot on agree.
Fascia, critical of the board, me?
I was agreeing with the bit about Boruc and Schneiderlin.
Only jesting.

Prediction for tomorrow?
2-0 Saints. If we play like e do against Liverpool could be better. Baggies are my Outlaw's team, so this is very much a grudge match for me!
My dad's family are Aston in Birmangham so that was always the grudge fixture.

I am going to have a bet on 2-1 saints, I don't mind losing my money as long as get three points.

Quite excited first year in new seats in Itchen with my two sons so must get a win.
Well I hope you enjoy it - I'm close to the away fans in Itchen which generally means I don't have to stand all game (used to love that but now I like to relax a little) but can still enjoy the banter - as long as we win!! Took my son to Yeovil in the cup last year but he was only 3 and found it too noisy so have vowed to take him back when he's a bit bigger!!
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: SaintJD said, "I can't see anyone saying sack the board here (unless I've missed some idiotic posts) - that's the imagination of the positive posters." I think I'm a positive poster, and I never imagined that anyone was suggesting we sack the board. It seems to me that you are having a problem specifically with InsideOutCat and maybe Fascia, not with positive posters in general. I would love Artur to stay, but I don't think he's the type to accept sitting on the bench as his fate, so I'm resigned to him leaving. I think Scheiderlin's case is different. He isn't being kept to sit on the bench. He's being kept to play every week.[/p][/quote]Spot on agree.[/p][/quote]Fascia, critical of the board, me?[/p][/quote]I was agreeing with the bit about Boruc and Schneiderlin.[/p][/quote]Only jesting. Prediction for tomorrow?[/p][/quote]2-0 Saints. If we play like e do against Liverpool could be better. Baggies are my Outlaw's team, so this is very much a grudge match for me![/p][/quote]My dad's family are Aston in Birmangham so that was always the grudge fixture. I am going to have a bet on 2-1 saints, I don't mind losing my money as long as get three points. Quite excited first year in new seats in Itchen with my two sons so must get a win.[/p][/quote]Well I hope you enjoy it - I'm close to the away fans in Itchen which generally means I don't have to stand all game (used to love that but now I like to relax a little) but can still enjoy the banter - as long as we win!! Took my son to Yeovil in the cup last year but he was only 3 and found it too noisy so have vowed to take him back when he's a bit bigger!! Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 0

7:33pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog.

No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle.

I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!!

Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.
Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.
You told me you've been here for years a couple of days ago... just saying.
You always smell a rat when sh1tehawk is not posting - as he is a constant positive poster to the extreme and attention seeker - one of his many log ins today on this thread methinks.
COYRWS
What on earth is this thread about? Fascia talks a lot of sense and never slags anybody far as I can see. This is a total wind up. Costa you always post loads on here. Foot, you constantly complain about people disagreeing with your opinions and used to have a horrible little tag line for Katherina Liebherr which you seem to have dropped these days so to call out Fascia is a joke.
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog. No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle. I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!! Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.[/p][/quote]Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.[/p][/quote]You told me you've been here for years a couple of days ago... just saying.[/p][/quote]You always smell a rat when sh1tehawk is not posting - as he is a constant positive poster to the extreme and attention seeker - one of his many log ins today on this thread methinks. COYRWS[/p][/quote]What on earth is this thread about? Fascia talks a lot of sense and never slags anybody far as I can see. This is a total wind up. Costa you always post loads on here. Foot, you constantly complain about people disagreeing with your opinions and used to have a horrible little tag line for Katherina Liebherr which you seem to have dropped these days so to call out Fascia is a joke. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 0

7:50pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog.

No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle.

I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!!

Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.
Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.
You told me you've been here for years a couple of days ago... just saying.
You always smell a rat when sh1tehawk is not posting - as he is a constant positive poster to the extreme and attention seeker - one of his many log ins today on this thread methinks.
COYRWS
What on earth is this thread about? Fascia talks a lot of sense and never slags anybody far as I can see. This is a total wind up. Costa you always post loads on here. Foot, you constantly complain about people disagreeing with your opinions and used to have a horrible little tag line for Katherina Liebherr which you seem to have dropped these days so to call out Fascia is a joke.
It will all be ok,there's a rumour going round that the DE have approached Malkie Mackay,with a view to him becoming the new thread moderator.
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog. No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle. I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!! Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.[/p][/quote]Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.[/p][/quote]You told me you've been here for years a couple of days ago... just saying.[/p][/quote]You always smell a rat when sh1tehawk is not posting - as he is a constant positive poster to the extreme and attention seeker - one of his many log ins today on this thread methinks. COYRWS[/p][/quote]What on earth is this thread about? Fascia talks a lot of sense and never slags anybody far as I can see. This is a total wind up. Costa you always post loads on here. Foot, you constantly complain about people disagreeing with your opinions and used to have a horrible little tag line for Katherina Liebherr which you seem to have dropped these days so to call out Fascia is a joke.[/p][/quote]It will all be ok,there's a rumour going round that the DE have approached Malkie Mackay,with a view to him becoming the new thread moderator. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

7:52pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog.

No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle.

I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!!

Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.
There's plenty of space for everyone.
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog. No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle. I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!! Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.[/p][/quote]There's plenty of space for everyone. Rising_Son
  • Score: -1

7:53pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog.

No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle.

I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!!

Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.
Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.
You told me you've been here for years a couple of days ago... just saying.
You always smell a rat when sh1tehawk is not posting - as he is a constant positive poster to the extreme and attention seeker - one of his many log ins today on this thread methinks.
COYRWS
What on earth is this thread about? Fascia talks a lot of sense and never slags anybody far as I can see. This is a total wind up. Costa you always post loads on here. Foot, you constantly complain about people disagreeing with your opinions and used to have a horrible little tag line for Katherina Liebherr which you seem to have dropped these days so to call out Fascia is a joke.
It will all be ok,there's a rumour going round that the DE have approached Malkie Mackay,with a view to him becoming the new thread moderator.
Ah great, everything's on the table in that case!
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog. No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle. I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!! Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.[/p][/quote]Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.[/p][/quote]You told me you've been here for years a couple of days ago... just saying.[/p][/quote]You always smell a rat when sh1tehawk is not posting - as he is a constant positive poster to the extreme and attention seeker - one of his many log ins today on this thread methinks. COYRWS[/p][/quote]What on earth is this thread about? Fascia talks a lot of sense and never slags anybody far as I can see. This is a total wind up. Costa you always post loads on here. Foot, you constantly complain about people disagreeing with your opinions and used to have a horrible little tag line for Katherina Liebherr which you seem to have dropped these days so to call out Fascia is a joke.[/p][/quote]It will all be ok,there's a rumour going round that the DE have approached Malkie Mackay,with a view to him becoming the new thread moderator.[/p][/quote]Ah great, everything's on the table in that case! Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 1

7:58pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Fascia said, "surely there comes a point where we have to trust the establishment are making the right choices." Of course, one choice is to trust them and another is to distrust them. A third choice is to do neither, but accept that they have the right to make thier decisions and the only real right we have is to like it or lump it.
No point in commenting at all then.
Why?
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: Fascia said, "surely there comes a point where we have to trust the establishment are making the right choices." Of course, one choice is to trust them and another is to distrust them. A third choice is to do neither, but accept that they have the right to make thier decisions and the only real right we have is to like it or lump it.[/p][/quote]No point in commenting at all then.[/p][/quote]Why? Rising_Son
  • Score: -3

8:03pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

fascia123 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
SaintJD said, "I can't see anyone saying sack the board here (unless I've missed some idiotic posts) - that's the imagination of the positive posters." I think I'm a positive poster, and I never imagined that anyone was suggesting we sack the board. It seems to me that you are having a problem specifically with InsideOutCat and maybe Fascia, not with positive posters in general.

I would love Artur to stay, but I don't think he's the type to accept sitting on the bench as his fate, so I'm resigned to him leaving. I think Scheiderlin's case is different. He isn't being kept to sit on the bench. He's being kept to play every week.
Spot on agree.
Fascia, critical of the board, me?
That's why there was a maybe. You seemed to be responding to that post in an untypically negative way. I wasn't sure.
Me never negative not about Saints, I find this whole blog texting stuff if you ain't careful you can come over as having a go when you don't mean to, I think it must be an age thing.

Prediction for tomorrow?
Prediction 1: I'll be there.
Prediction 2: It's a toss up between 1-1 and 4-1 to us.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: SaintJD said, "I can't see anyone saying sack the board here (unless I've missed some idiotic posts) - that's the imagination of the positive posters." I think I'm a positive poster, and I never imagined that anyone was suggesting we sack the board. It seems to me that you are having a problem specifically with InsideOutCat and maybe Fascia, not with positive posters in general. I would love Artur to stay, but I don't think he's the type to accept sitting on the bench as his fate, so I'm resigned to him leaving. I think Scheiderlin's case is different. He isn't being kept to sit on the bench. He's being kept to play every week.[/p][/quote]Spot on agree.[/p][/quote]Fascia, critical of the board, me?[/p][/quote]That's why there was a maybe. You seemed to be responding to that post in an untypically negative way. I wasn't sure.[/p][/quote]Me never negative not about Saints, I find this whole blog texting stuff if you ain't careful you can come over as having a go when you don't mean to, I think it must be an age thing. Prediction for tomorrow?[/p][/quote]Prediction 1: I'll be there. Prediction 2: It's a toss up between 1-1 and 4-1 to us. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

8:05pm Fri 22 Aug 14

thinklikealocal says...

SaintJD wrote:
miltonnroad76 wrote:
ballotelli 16 mill now thats what i call panic buying
Terrible buy but the fee is surprisingly low. I'd hoped they'd be stitched up for £30M or so. What an awful signing for team harmony as well - the last nail in the coffin of Liverpool's dodgy title ambitions.

He'll have the odd impressive game, yes, but the baggage and impact on other players is awful. Got to wonder how he and Gerrard are going to get on because, as players and characters, they are polar opposites.

Still, at least Liverpool can 100% no longer claim to be a club of somehow high ethics and standards. All that was clearly thrown out of the window with their defence of Suarez, but replacing him with this just hammers the point home.
It's the football equivalent of domestic violence. A manager who thinks 'they will be the one' to make the bad person 'turn themselves around'. Who knows? Good luck.....
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonnroad76[/bold] wrote: ballotelli 16 mill now thats what i call panic buying[/p][/quote]Terrible buy but the fee is surprisingly low. I'd hoped they'd be stitched up for £30M or so. What an awful signing for team harmony as well - the last nail in the coffin of Liverpool's dodgy title ambitions. He'll have the odd impressive game, yes, but the baggage and impact on other players is awful. Got to wonder how he and Gerrard are going to get on because, as players and characters, they are polar opposites. Still, at least Liverpool can 100% no longer claim to be a club of somehow high ethics and standards. All that was clearly thrown out of the window with their defence of Suarez, but replacing him with this just hammers the point home.[/p][/quote]It's the football equivalent of domestic violence. A manager who thinks 'they will be the one' to make the bad person 'turn themselves around'. Who knows? Good luck..... thinklikealocal
  • Score: 1

8:06pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog.

No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle.

I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!!

Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.
Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.
You told me you've been here for years a couple of days ago... just saying.
You always smell a rat when sh1tehawk is not posting - as he is a constant positive poster to the extreme and attention seeker - one of his many log ins today on this thread methinks.
COYRWS
What on earth is this thread about? Fascia talks a lot of sense and never slags anybody far as I can see. This is a total wind up. Costa you always post loads on here. Foot, you constantly complain about people disagreeing with your opinions and used to have a horrible little tag line for Katherina Liebherr which you seem to have dropped these days so to call out Fascia is a joke.
It will all be ok,there's a rumour going round that the DE have approached Malkie Mackay,with a view to him becoming the new thread moderator.
Ah great, everything's on the table in that case!
Best to get it all out in the open..oh for the days when PC just meant the local Bobbie,and all you got was a clip round the ear for being rude.
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog. No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle. I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!! Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.[/p][/quote]Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.[/p][/quote]You told me you've been here for years a couple of days ago... just saying.[/p][/quote]You always smell a rat when sh1tehawk is not posting - as he is a constant positive poster to the extreme and attention seeker - one of his many log ins today on this thread methinks. COYRWS[/p][/quote]What on earth is this thread about? Fascia talks a lot of sense and never slags anybody far as I can see. This is a total wind up. Costa you always post loads on here. Foot, you constantly complain about people disagreeing with your opinions and used to have a horrible little tag line for Katherina Liebherr which you seem to have dropped these days so to call out Fascia is a joke.[/p][/quote]It will all be ok,there's a rumour going round that the DE have approached Malkie Mackay,with a view to him becoming the new thread moderator.[/p][/quote]Ah great, everything's on the table in that case![/p][/quote]Best to get it all out in the open..oh for the days when PC just meant the local Bobbie,and all you got was a clip round the ear for being rude. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

8:44pm Fri 22 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog.

No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle.

I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!!

Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.
Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.
You told me you've been here for years a couple of days ago... just saying.
You always smell a rat when sh1tehawk is not posting - as he is a constant positive poster to the extreme and attention seeker - one of his many log ins today on this thread methinks.
COYRWS
What on earth is this thread about? Fascia talks a lot of sense and never slags anybody far as I can see. This is a total wind up. Costa you always post loads on here. Foot, you constantly complain about people disagreeing with your opinions and used to have a horrible little tag line for Katherina Liebherr which you seem to have dropped these days so to call out Fascia is a joke.
It will all be ok,there's a rumour going round that the DE have approached Malkie Mackay,with a view to him becoming the new thread moderator.
Ah great, everything's on the table in that case!
Best to get it all out in the open..oh for the days when PC just meant the local Bobbie,and all you got was a clip round the ear for being rude.
Hope Frankie Bennett and his Son enjoy being front line in BLOCK 3 in Itchen North.

Must admit I had FB down for the Chapel or the Kingsland Stand.

May see him there when I walk down from near the Top of that Section.

WE GO FOR THE WIN - nothing more - nothing less.
3 POINTS TOMORROW.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog. No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle. I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!! Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.[/p][/quote]Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.[/p][/quote]You told me you've been here for years a couple of days ago... just saying.[/p][/quote]You always smell a rat when sh1tehawk is not posting - as he is a constant positive poster to the extreme and attention seeker - one of his many log ins today on this thread methinks. COYRWS[/p][/quote]What on earth is this thread about? Fascia talks a lot of sense and never slags anybody far as I can see. This is a total wind up. Costa you always post loads on here. Foot, you constantly complain about people disagreeing with your opinions and used to have a horrible little tag line for Katherina Liebherr which you seem to have dropped these days so to call out Fascia is a joke.[/p][/quote]It will all be ok,there's a rumour going round that the DE have approached Malkie Mackay,with a view to him becoming the new thread moderator.[/p][/quote]Ah great, everything's on the table in that case![/p][/quote]Best to get it all out in the open..oh for the days when PC just meant the local Bobbie,and all you got was a clip round the ear for being rude.[/p][/quote]Hope Frankie Bennett and his Son enjoy being front line in BLOCK 3 in Itchen North. Must admit I had FB down for the Chapel or the Kingsland Stand. May see him there when I walk down from near the Top of that Section. WE GO FOR THE WIN - nothing more - nothing less. 3 POINTS TOMORROW. The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 0

9:03pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog.

No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle.

I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!!

Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.
Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.
You told me you've been here for years a couple of days ago... just saying.
You always smell a rat when sh1tehawk is not posting - as he is a constant positive poster to the extreme and attention seeker - one of his many log ins today on this thread methinks.
COYRWS
What on earth is this thread about? Fascia talks a lot of sense and never slags anybody far as I can see. This is a total wind up. Costa you always post loads on here. Foot, you constantly complain about people disagreeing with your opinions and used to have a horrible little tag line for Katherina Liebherr which you seem to have dropped these days so to call out Fascia is a joke.
It will all be ok,there's a rumour going round that the DE have approached Malkie Mackay,with a view to him becoming the new thread moderator.
Ah great, everything's on the table in that case!
Best to get it all out in the open..oh for the days when PC just meant the local Bobbie,and all you got was a clip round the ear for being rude.
Hope Frankie Bennett and his Son enjoy being front line in BLOCK 3 in Itchen North.

Must admit I had FB down for the Chapel or the Kingsland Stand.

May see him there when I walk down from near the Top of that Section.

WE GO FOR THE WIN - nothing more - nothing less.
3 POINTS TOMORROW.
What a strange post.
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog. No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle. I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!! Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.[/p][/quote]Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.[/p][/quote]You told me you've been here for years a couple of days ago... just saying.[/p][/quote]You always smell a rat when sh1tehawk is not posting - as he is a constant positive poster to the extreme and attention seeker - one of his many log ins today on this thread methinks. COYRWS[/p][/quote]What on earth is this thread about? Fascia talks a lot of sense and never slags anybody far as I can see. This is a total wind up. Costa you always post loads on here. Foot, you constantly complain about people disagreeing with your opinions and used to have a horrible little tag line for Katherina Liebherr which you seem to have dropped these days so to call out Fascia is a joke.[/p][/quote]It will all be ok,there's a rumour going round that the DE have approached Malkie Mackay,with a view to him becoming the new thread moderator.[/p][/quote]Ah great, everything's on the table in that case![/p][/quote]Best to get it all out in the open..oh for the days when PC just meant the local Bobbie,and all you got was a clip round the ear for being rude.[/p][/quote]Hope Frankie Bennett and his Son enjoy being front line in BLOCK 3 in Itchen North. Must admit I had FB down for the Chapel or the Kingsland Stand. May see him there when I walk down from near the Top of that Section. WE GO FOR THE WIN - nothing more - nothing less. 3 POINTS TOMORROW.[/p][/quote]What a strange post. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: -1

9:14pm Fri 22 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog.

No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle.

I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!!

Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.
Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.
You told me you've been here for years a couple of days ago... just saying.
You always smell a rat when sh1tehawk is not posting - as he is a constant positive poster to the extreme and attention seeker - one of his many log ins today on this thread methinks.
COYRWS
What on earth is this thread about? Fascia talks a lot of sense and never slags anybody far as I can see. This is a total wind up. Costa you always post loads on here. Foot, you constantly complain about people disagreeing with your opinions and used to have a horrible little tag line for Katherina Liebherr which you seem to have dropped these days so to call out Fascia is a joke.
It will all be ok,there's a rumour going round that the DE have approached Malkie Mackay,with a view to him becoming the new thread moderator.
Ah great, everything's on the table in that case!
Best to get it all out in the open..oh for the days when PC just meant the local Bobbie,and all you got was a clip round the ear for being rude.
Hope Frankie Bennett and his Son enjoy being front line in BLOCK 3 in Itchen North.

Must admit I had FB down for the Chapel or the Kingsland Stand.

May see him there when I walk down from near the Top of that Section.

WE GO FOR THE WIN - nothing more - nothing less.
3 POINTS TOMORROW.
What a strange post.
J7 had FB down for a lightweight - NOT SO.

TOGETHER AS ONE - We go for the 3 POINTS.

RED ARMY. FIGHT and WIN.

To the PUBS before the HOME GAME - Chapel ( Away Fans tolerated only ) Bridge - Royal Oak - Northam Club - J Tree - King xx Fred and the Prince of Wales.

Get Behind the Manager - King RON and the Players.

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON.
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog. No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle. I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!! Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.[/p][/quote]Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.[/p][/quote]You told me you've been here for years a couple of days ago... just saying.[/p][/quote]You always smell a rat when sh1tehawk is not posting - as he is a constant positive poster to the extreme and attention seeker - one of his many log ins today on this thread methinks. COYRWS[/p][/quote]What on earth is this thread about? Fascia talks a lot of sense and never slags anybody far as I can see. This is a total wind up. Costa you always post loads on here. Foot, you constantly complain about people disagreeing with your opinions and used to have a horrible little tag line for Katherina Liebherr which you seem to have dropped these days so to call out Fascia is a joke.[/p][/quote]It will all be ok,there's a rumour going round that the DE have approached Malkie Mackay,with a view to him becoming the new thread moderator.[/p][/quote]Ah great, everything's on the table in that case![/p][/quote]Best to get it all out in the open..oh for the days when PC just meant the local Bobbie,and all you got was a clip round the ear for being rude.[/p][/quote]Hope Frankie Bennett and his Son enjoy being front line in BLOCK 3 in Itchen North. Must admit I had FB down for the Chapel or the Kingsland Stand. May see him there when I walk down from near the Top of that Section. WE GO FOR THE WIN - nothing more - nothing less. 3 POINTS TOMORROW.[/p][/quote]What a strange post.[/p][/quote]J7 had FB down for a lightweight - NOT SO. TOGETHER AS ONE - We go for the 3 POINTS. RED ARMY. FIGHT and WIN. To the PUBS before the HOME GAME - Chapel ( Away Fans tolerated only ) Bridge - Royal Oak - Northam Club - J Tree - King xx Fred and the Prince of Wales. Get Behind the Manager - King RON and the Players. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 0

9:28pm Fri 22 Aug 14

St. Case says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
vidman wrote:
It was on here last week that a German club were interested in him, that is why he wants out
Grrr.. if only the echo had kept quiet about that!
That was Bayern Munich, and they bought Reina from Liverpool for £2,5 mill. Cody Cropper might step up this season to the first team bench.
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vidman[/bold] wrote: It was on here last week that a German club were interested in him, that is why he wants out[/p][/quote]Grrr.. if only the echo had kept quiet about that![/p][/quote]That was Bayern Munich, and they bought Reina from Liverpool for £2,5 mill. Cody Cropper might step up this season to the first team bench. St. Case
  • Score: 1

9:52pm Fri 22 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

Strange - no sign of the sh!tehawk today - must be just reading and dishing out minus points. LOL
Strange - no sign of the sh!tehawk today - must be just reading and dishing out minus points. LOL The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 2

10:23pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Exiled Saint - front line eastern outpost of Gosport says...

I am back for one special post.

BUY WELBECK NOW.

I don't care what it costs. Buy WELBECK NOW.

In 5 years I have never been wrong, I fought the happy clappers for five years and won.

I thought my work was done, now I come back to implore the board

bUY WELBECK NOW!!!!!!
I am back for one special post. BUY WELBECK NOW. I don't care what it costs. Buy WELBECK NOW. In 5 years I have never been wrong, I fought the happy clappers for five years and won. I thought my work was done, now I come back to implore the board bUY WELBECK NOW!!!!!! Exiled Saint - front line eastern outpost of Gosport
  • Score: -6

11:06pm Fri 22 Aug 14

kaido says...

I don't know if anyone has mentioned his age but it is a factor, although not as much in that position as it is in others.

Makes sense to bring in a high quality younger goal keeper and allow Boroc to ply his trade elsewhere if he likes. I can understand why he wouldn't want to sit on the bench but given his age, I think it's worth his while staying put and getting the agreement of Saints that he will get a certain amount of playing time, if only so he can remain in the premier league.
I don't know if anyone has mentioned his age but it is a factor, although not as much in that position as it is in others. Makes sense to bring in a high quality younger goal keeper and allow Boroc to ply his trade elsewhere if he likes. I can understand why he wouldn't want to sit on the bench but given his age, I think it's worth his while staying put and getting the agreement of Saints that he will get a certain amount of playing time, if only so he can remain in the premier league. kaido
  • Score: 2

12:30am Sat 23 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog.

No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle.

I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!!

Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.
Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.
You told me you've been here for years a couple of days ago... just saying.
You always smell a rat when sh1tehawk is not posting - as he is a constant positive poster to the extreme and attention seeker - one of his many log ins today on this thread methinks.
COYRWS
What on earth is this thread about? Fascia talks a lot of sense and never slags anybody far as I can see. This is a total wind up. Costa you always post loads on here. Foot, you constantly complain about people disagreeing with your opinions and used to have a horrible little tag line for Katherina Liebherr which you seem to have dropped these days so to call out Fascia is a joke.
It will all be ok,there's a rumour going round that the DE have approached Malkie Mackay,with a view to him becoming the new thread moderator.
Ah great, everything's on the table in that case!
Best to get it all out in the open..oh for the days when PC just meant the local Bobbie,and all you got was a clip round the ear for being rude.
Hope Frankie Bennett and his Son enjoy being front line in BLOCK 3 in Itchen North.

Must admit I had FB down for the Chapel or the Kingsland Stand.

May see him there when I walk down from near the Top of that Section.

WE GO FOR THE WIN - nothing more - nothing less.
3 POINTS TOMORROW.
What a strange post.
Strange indeed, what is that supposed to mean?
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog. No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle. I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!! Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.[/p][/quote]Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.[/p][/quote]You told me you've been here for years a couple of days ago... just saying.[/p][/quote]You always smell a rat when sh1tehawk is not posting - as he is a constant positive poster to the extreme and attention seeker - one of his many log ins today on this thread methinks. COYRWS[/p][/quote]What on earth is this thread about? Fascia talks a lot of sense and never slags anybody far as I can see. This is a total wind up. Costa you always post loads on here. Foot, you constantly complain about people disagreeing with your opinions and used to have a horrible little tag line for Katherina Liebherr which you seem to have dropped these days so to call out Fascia is a joke.[/p][/quote]It will all be ok,there's a rumour going round that the DE have approached Malkie Mackay,with a view to him becoming the new thread moderator.[/p][/quote]Ah great, everything's on the table in that case![/p][/quote]Best to get it all out in the open..oh for the days when PC just meant the local Bobbie,and all you got was a clip round the ear for being rude.[/p][/quote]Hope Frankie Bennett and his Son enjoy being front line in BLOCK 3 in Itchen North. Must admit I had FB down for the Chapel or the Kingsland Stand. May see him there when I walk down from near the Top of that Section. WE GO FOR THE WIN - nothing more - nothing less. 3 POINTS TOMORROW.[/p][/quote]What a strange post.[/p][/quote]Strange indeed, what is that supposed to mean? fascia123
  • Score: 0

12:58am Sat 23 Aug 14

randre says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
Velleity wrote:
We'll be back in the situation we were in last year. Forster gets injured and we're back to Gazza or Kelvin.

The problem is, who could we sign who is good and who wants to sit on the bench waiting for Fraser to hurt himself? Always difficult to sign good back-up keepers for that reason.

And for the inevitable comment about how we shouldn't have put Boruc into number two position until he lost the place on merit (which I happen to agree with if it weren't for the following problem) the problem there is that we well might not have had Forster prepared to sign under those conditions. And no, I don't know how you solve the problem of getting a good backup keeper who is prepared to wait.
I think the problem is how RK dealt with it publicly. I'd be hacked off if my manager had come out and said, basically, the FF is no. 1 for sure, no arguments.

To me it's the first real error Ron has made. If he'd said "We've brought FF in to fight for the number one jersey based on training performances" then even if he had no real intention of playing Boruc it would probably not have upset Boruc as much as it has.

Boruc is a big ego with a lot of pride, and you have to know how to manage those types of players a bit more gently, even if you don't really mean it!
No error, we finally have a manager who is honest and doesn't avoid issues. It is about time we had a straight talking man in charge. I think we have all had enough of the deceitful trail left by pochettino and his merry men.
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: We'll be back in the situation we were in last year. Forster gets injured and we're back to Gazza or Kelvin. The problem is, who could we sign who is good and who wants to sit on the bench waiting for Fraser to hurt himself? Always difficult to sign good back-up keepers for that reason. And for the inevitable comment about how we shouldn't have put Boruc into number two position until he lost the place on merit (which I happen to agree with if it weren't for the following problem) the problem there is that we well might not have had Forster prepared to sign under those conditions. And no, I don't know how you solve the problem of getting a good backup keeper who is prepared to wait.[/p][/quote]I think the problem is how RK dealt with it publicly. I'd be hacked off if my manager had come out and said, basically, the FF is no. 1 for sure, no arguments. To me it's the first real error Ron has made. If he'd said "We've brought FF in to fight for the number one jersey based on training performances" then even if he had no real intention of playing Boruc it would probably not have upset Boruc as much as it has. Boruc is a big ego with a lot of pride, and you have to know how to manage those types of players a bit more gently, even if you don't really mean it![/p][/quote]No error, we finally have a manager who is honest and doesn't avoid issues. It is about time we had a straight talking man in charge. I think we have all had enough of the deceitful trail left by pochettino and his merry men. randre
  • Score: 2

6:55am Sat 23 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog.

No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle.

I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!!

Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.
Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.
You told me you've been here for years a couple of days ago... just saying.
You always smell a rat when sh1tehawk is not posting - as he is a constant positive poster to the extreme and attention seeker - one of his many log ins today on this thread methinks.
COYRWS
What on earth is this thread about? Fascia talks a lot of sense and never slags anybody far as I can see. This is a total wind up. Costa you always post loads on here. Foot, you constantly complain about people disagreeing with your opinions and used to have a horrible little tag line for Katherina Liebherr which you seem to have dropped these days so to call out Fascia is a joke.
It will all be ok,there's a rumour going round that the DE have approached Malkie Mackay,with a view to him becoming the new thread moderator.
Ah great, everything's on the table in that case!
Best to get it all out in the open..oh for the days when PC just meant the local Bobbie,and all you got was a clip round the ear for being rude.
Hope Frankie Bennett and his Son enjoy being front line in BLOCK 3 in Itchen North.

Must admit I had FB down for the Chapel or the Kingsland Stand.

May see him there when I walk down from near the Top of that Section.

WE GO FOR THE WIN - nothing more - nothing less.
3 POINTS TOMORROW.
What a strange post.
J7 had FB down for a lightweight - NOT SO.

TOGETHER AS ONE - We go for the 3 POINTS.

RED ARMY. FIGHT and WIN.

To the PUBS before the HOME GAME - Chapel ( Away Fans tolerated only ) Bridge - Royal Oak - Northam Club - J Tree - King xx Fred and the Prince of Wales.

Get Behind the Manager - King RON and the Players.

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON.
I don't remember referring to FB as a lightweight..??...No
t unless it was during a cider fueled exchange some time in the past!
We really do need to win today to keep the momentum going from last Sunday and get some points on the board.
We must not go out at St Marys with the attitude that this is an easy game which I'm sure RK will be making sure our boys don't.
It will be interesting to see how WBA set themselves up for the game and how we deal with whatever tactics they employ. Will they come here for a point or have a go???
Sky sports are saying Gaston is once again ruled out which is worrying. Injured or another one who wants out?? I hope it's an injury as I still think he could be a class player for us if he gets his head together and a run of good games under his belt.
Really looking forward to the game today,hence up early!!
We'll be meeting at 10.30 to start off the new season with a bang and probably a sore head tomorrow.
Going for a 2-0 Saints win and Pelle getting off the mark.
We need to get St Mary's rocking this afternoon to let the new players know they have arrived at a great club and that we are the twelfth man.
COYR FOADP.
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog. No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle. I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!! Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.[/p][/quote]Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.[/p][/quote]You told me you've been here for years a couple of days ago... just saying.[/p][/quote]You always smell a rat when sh1tehawk is not posting - as he is a constant positive poster to the extreme and attention seeker - one of his many log ins today on this thread methinks. COYRWS[/p][/quote]What on earth is this thread about? Fascia talks a lot of sense and never slags anybody far as I can see. This is a total wind up. Costa you always post loads on here. Foot, you constantly complain about people disagreeing with your opinions and used to have a horrible little tag line for Katherina Liebherr which you seem to have dropped these days so to call out Fascia is a joke.[/p][/quote]It will all be ok,there's a rumour going round that the DE have approached Malkie Mackay,with a view to him becoming the new thread moderator.[/p][/quote]Ah great, everything's on the table in that case![/p][/quote]Best to get it all out in the open..oh for the days when PC just meant the local Bobbie,and all you got was a clip round the ear for being rude.[/p][/quote]Hope Frankie Bennett and his Son enjoy being front line in BLOCK 3 in Itchen North. Must admit I had FB down for the Chapel or the Kingsland Stand. May see him there when I walk down from near the Top of that Section. WE GO FOR THE WIN - nothing more - nothing less. 3 POINTS TOMORROW.[/p][/quote]What a strange post.[/p][/quote]J7 had FB down for a lightweight - NOT SO. TOGETHER AS ONE - We go for the 3 POINTS. RED ARMY. FIGHT and WIN. To the PUBS before the HOME GAME - Chapel ( Away Fans tolerated only ) Bridge - Royal Oak - Northam Club - J Tree - King xx Fred and the Prince of Wales. Get Behind the Manager - King RON and the Players. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON.[/p][/quote]I don't remember referring to FB as a lightweight..??...No t unless it was during a cider fueled exchange some time in the past! We really do need to win today to keep the momentum going from last Sunday and get some points on the board. We must not go out at St Marys with the attitude that this is an easy game which I'm sure RK will be making sure our boys don't. It will be interesting to see how WBA set themselves up for the game and how we deal with whatever tactics they employ. Will they come here for a point or have a go??? Sky sports are saying Gaston is once again ruled out which is worrying. Injured or another one who wants out?? I hope it's an injury as I still think he could be a class player for us if he gets his head together and a run of good games under his belt. Really looking forward to the game today,hence up early!! We'll be meeting at 10.30 to start off the new season with a bang and probably a sore head tomorrow. Going for a 2-0 Saints win and Pelle getting off the mark. We need to get St Mary's rocking this afternoon to let the new players know they have arrived at a great club and that we are the twelfth man. COYR FOADP. J7junctionseven
  • Score: 2

8:01am Sat 23 Aug 14

bigfella777 says...

Saints would have beaten the scousers if Artur was in goal. Fraser was very wobbly IMO and cost them the game.
Saints would have beaten the scousers if Artur was in goal. Fraser was very wobbly IMO and cost them the game. bigfella777
  • Score: -5

8:15am Sat 23 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Saints would have beaten the scousers if Artur was in goal. Fraser was very wobbly IMO and cost them the game.
Don't know what game you were watching but losing at liverhampton was nothing to do with who was in goal for us. FF didn't really have a chance with both goals and didn't have a lot to do for most of the game due to Saints playing well for long periods of the game. Some suspect defending, poor refereeing and not taking chances at the other end cost us the game, not our keeper.
Maybe you should stick to watching your own team and stop making a fool of yourself.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Saints would have beaten the scousers if Artur was in goal. Fraser was very wobbly IMO and cost them the game.[/p][/quote]Don't know what game you were watching but losing at liverhampton was nothing to do with who was in goal for us. FF didn't really have a chance with both goals and didn't have a lot to do for most of the game due to Saints playing well for long periods of the game. Some suspect defending, poor refereeing and not taking chances at the other end cost us the game, not our keeper. Maybe you should stick to watching your own team and stop making a fool of yourself. J7junctionseven
  • Score: 3

8:56am Sat 23 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog.

No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle.

I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!!

Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.
Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.
You told me you've been here for years a couple of days ago... just saying.
You always smell a rat when sh1tehawk is not posting - as he is a constant positive poster to the extreme and attention seeker - one of his many log ins today on this thread methinks.
COYRWS
What on earth is this thread about? Fascia talks a lot of sense and never slags anybody far as I can see. This is a total wind up. Costa you always post loads on here. Foot, you constantly complain about people disagreeing with your opinions and used to have a horrible little tag line for Katherina Liebherr which you seem to have dropped these days so to call out Fascia is a joke.
Thanks FB

I try not to get abusive on here and just try to debate SFC matters, here is an interesting one just taken off sky.

Southampton have gone odds-on to sign Ron Vlaar as the Dutch international looks increasingly likely to join his compatriot Ronald Koeman. The Saints are now 4/6 to buy Vlaar before the deadline, with Lazio and Manchester United rated 5/1 and 6/1 respectively. See all Sky Bet’s transfer odds here.
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog. No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle. I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!! Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.[/p][/quote]Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.[/p][/quote]You told me you've been here for years a couple of days ago... just saying.[/p][/quote]You always smell a rat when sh1tehawk is not posting - as he is a constant positive poster to the extreme and attention seeker - one of his many log ins today on this thread methinks. COYRWS[/p][/quote]What on earth is this thread about? Fascia talks a lot of sense and never slags anybody far as I can see. This is a total wind up. Costa you always post loads on here. Foot, you constantly complain about people disagreeing with your opinions and used to have a horrible little tag line for Katherina Liebherr which you seem to have dropped these days so to call out Fascia is a joke.[/p][/quote]Thanks FB I try not to get abusive on here and just try to debate SFC matters, here is an interesting one just taken off sky. Southampton have gone odds-on to sign Ron Vlaar as the Dutch international looks increasingly likely to join his compatriot Ronald Koeman. The Saints are now 4/6 to buy Vlaar before the deadline, with Lazio and Manchester United rated 5/1 and 6/1 respectively. See all Sky Bet’s transfer odds here. fascia123
  • Score: -1

9:13am Sat 23 Aug 14

SFCOLDBOY says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog.

No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle.

I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!!

Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.
Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.
You told me you've been here for years a couple of days ago... just saying.
You always smell a rat when sh1tehawk is not posting - as he is a constant positive poster to the extreme and attention seeker - one of his many log ins today on this thread methinks.
COYRWS
What on earth is this thread about? Fascia talks a lot of sense and never slags anybody far as I can see. This is a total wind up. Costa you always post loads on here. Foot, you constantly complain about people disagreeing with your opinions and used to have a horrible little tag line for Katherina Liebherr which you seem to have dropped these days so to call out Fascia is a joke.
It will all be ok,there's a rumour going round that the DE have approached Malkie Mackay,with a view to him becoming the new thread moderator.
Ah great, everything's on the table in that case!
Best to get it all out in the open..oh for the days when PC just meant the local Bobbie,and all you got was a clip round the ear for being rude.
Hope Frankie Bennett and his Son enjoy being front line in BLOCK 3 in Itchen North.

Must admit I had FB down for the Chapel or the Kingsland Stand.

May see him there when I walk down from near the Top of that Section.

WE GO FOR THE WIN - nothing more - nothing less.
3 POINTS TOMORROW.
What a strange post.
J7 had FB down for a lightweight - NOT SO.

TOGETHER AS ONE - We go for the 3 POINTS.

RED ARMY. FIGHT and WIN.

To the PUBS before the HOME GAME - Chapel ( Away Fans tolerated only ) Bridge - Royal Oak - Northam Club - J Tree - King xx Fred and the Prince of Wales.

Get Behind the Manager - King RON and the Players.

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON.
Great so see you are still on top form mate.
Er-Indoors,Insane,In
sane jnr and myself will be making as much noise as possible to keep the sleepers in the Chapel awake today.
Going to Millwall, got great memories of our last expedition there.
What a great game and the fantastic crak while we was locked in, waiting to leave.
"We are the Chapel over Here" i.e. Just insane and me.
What a laugh!
COYS
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog. No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle. I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!! Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.[/p][/quote]Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.[/p][/quote]You told me you've been here for years a couple of days ago... just saying.[/p][/quote]You always smell a rat when sh1tehawk is not posting - as he is a constant positive poster to the extreme and attention seeker - one of his many log ins today on this thread methinks. COYRWS[/p][/quote]What on earth is this thread about? Fascia talks a lot of sense and never slags anybody far as I can see. This is a total wind up. Costa you always post loads on here. Foot, you constantly complain about people disagreeing with your opinions and used to have a horrible little tag line for Katherina Liebherr which you seem to have dropped these days so to call out Fascia is a joke.[/p][/quote]It will all be ok,there's a rumour going round that the DE have approached Malkie Mackay,with a view to him becoming the new thread moderator.[/p][/quote]Ah great, everything's on the table in that case![/p][/quote]Best to get it all out in the open..oh for the days when PC just meant the local Bobbie,and all you got was a clip round the ear for being rude.[/p][/quote]Hope Frankie Bennett and his Son enjoy being front line in BLOCK 3 in Itchen North. Must admit I had FB down for the Chapel or the Kingsland Stand. May see him there when I walk down from near the Top of that Section. WE GO FOR THE WIN - nothing more - nothing less. 3 POINTS TOMORROW.[/p][/quote]What a strange post.[/p][/quote]J7 had FB down for a lightweight - NOT SO. TOGETHER AS ONE - We go for the 3 POINTS. RED ARMY. FIGHT and WIN. To the PUBS before the HOME GAME - Chapel ( Away Fans tolerated only ) Bridge - Royal Oak - Northam Club - J Tree - King xx Fred and the Prince of Wales. Get Behind the Manager - King RON and the Players. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON.[/p][/quote]Great so see you are still on top form mate. Er-Indoors,Insane,In sane jnr and myself will be making as much noise as possible to keep the sleepers in the Chapel awake today. Going to Millwall, got great memories of our last expedition there. What a great game and the fantastic crak while we was locked in, waiting to leave. "We are the Chapel over Here" i.e. Just insane and me. What a laugh! COYS SFCOLDBOY
  • Score: 3

10:38am Sat 23 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog.

No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle.

I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!!

Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.
Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.
You told me you've been here for years a couple of days ago... just saying.
You always smell a rat when sh1tehawk is not posting - as he is a constant positive poster to the extreme and attention seeker - one of his many log ins today on this thread methinks.
COYRWS
What on earth is this thread about? Fascia talks a lot of sense and never slags anybody far as I can see. This is a total wind up. Costa you always post loads on here. Foot, you constantly complain about people disagreeing with your opinions and used to have a horrible little tag line for Katherina Liebherr which you seem to have dropped these days so to call out Fascia is a joke.
Thanks FB

I try not to get abusive on here and just try to debate SFC matters, here is an interesting one just taken off sky.

Southampton have gone odds-on to sign Ron Vlaar as the Dutch international looks increasingly likely to join his compatriot Ronald Koeman. The Saints are now 4/6 to buy Vlaar before the deadline, with Lazio and Manchester United rated 5/1 and 6/1 respectively. See all Sky Bet’s transfer odds here.
Wow, that would be good news. I hope you enjoy the game today. Thinking of taking a break from posting on here. Uncomfortable with some of the stuff written last night, also the idea you are judged according to where you sit, that other posters discuss what type of fan you are off the forum (WTF!?) and that as soon as you disagree with someone they get personal. Stay positive!
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog. No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle. I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!! Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.[/p][/quote]Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.[/p][/quote]You told me you've been here for years a couple of days ago... just saying.[/p][/quote]You always smell a rat when sh1tehawk is not posting - as he is a constant positive poster to the extreme and attention seeker - one of his many log ins today on this thread methinks. COYRWS[/p][/quote]What on earth is this thread about? Fascia talks a lot of sense and never slags anybody far as I can see. This is a total wind up. Costa you always post loads on here. Foot, you constantly complain about people disagreeing with your opinions and used to have a horrible little tag line for Katherina Liebherr which you seem to have dropped these days so to call out Fascia is a joke.[/p][/quote]Thanks FB I try not to get abusive on here and just try to debate SFC matters, here is an interesting one just taken off sky. Southampton have gone odds-on to sign Ron Vlaar as the Dutch international looks increasingly likely to join his compatriot Ronald Koeman. The Saints are now 4/6 to buy Vlaar before the deadline, with Lazio and Manchester United rated 5/1 and 6/1 respectively. See all Sky Bet’s transfer odds here.[/p][/quote]Wow, that would be good news. I hope you enjoy the game today. Thinking of taking a break from posting on here. Uncomfortable with some of the stuff written last night, also the idea you are judged according to where you sit, that other posters discuss what type of fan you are off the forum (WTF!?) and that as soon as you disagree with someone they get personal. Stay positive! Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 0

10:55am Sat 23 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog.

No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle.

I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!!

Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.
Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.
You told me you've been here for years a couple of days ago... just saying.
You always smell a rat when sh1tehawk is not posting - as he is a constant positive poster to the extreme and attention seeker - one of his many log ins today on this thread methinks.
COYRWS
What on earth is this thread about? Fascia talks a lot of sense and never slags anybody far as I can see. This is a total wind up. Costa you always post loads on here. Foot, you constantly complain about people disagreeing with your opinions and used to have a horrible little tag line for Katherina Liebherr which you seem to have dropped these days so to call out Fascia is a joke.
Thanks FB

I try not to get abusive on here and just try to debate SFC matters, here is an interesting one just taken off sky.

Southampton have gone odds-on to sign Ron Vlaar as the Dutch international looks increasingly likely to join his compatriot Ronald Koeman. The Saints are now 4/6 to buy Vlaar before the deadline, with Lazio and Manchester United rated 5/1 and 6/1 respectively. See all Sky Bet’s transfer odds here.
Wow, that would be good news. I hope you enjoy the game today. Thinking of taking a break from posting on here. Uncomfortable with some of the stuff written last night, also the idea you are judged according to where you sit, that other posters discuss what type of fan you are off the forum (WTF!?) and that as soon as you disagree with someone they get personal. Stay positive!
Don't take any notice, if you can be brave behind an online blog they must be lions in real life, not.

I have decided to respond to the well written and thought out posts and ignore the moronic ones.

Hope you enjoy the game to.
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog. No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle. I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!! Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.[/p][/quote]Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.[/p][/quote]You told me you've been here for years a couple of days ago... just saying.[/p][/quote]You always smell a rat when sh1tehawk is not posting - as he is a constant positive poster to the extreme and attention seeker - one of his many log ins today on this thread methinks. COYRWS[/p][/quote]What on earth is this thread about? Fascia talks a lot of sense and never slags anybody far as I can see. This is a total wind up. Costa you always post loads on here. Foot, you constantly complain about people disagreeing with your opinions and used to have a horrible little tag line for Katherina Liebherr which you seem to have dropped these days so to call out Fascia is a joke.[/p][/quote]Thanks FB I try not to get abusive on here and just try to debate SFC matters, here is an interesting one just taken off sky. Southampton have gone odds-on to sign Ron Vlaar as the Dutch international looks increasingly likely to join his compatriot Ronald Koeman. The Saints are now 4/6 to buy Vlaar before the deadline, with Lazio and Manchester United rated 5/1 and 6/1 respectively. See all Sky Bet’s transfer odds here.[/p][/quote]Wow, that would be good news. I hope you enjoy the game today. Thinking of taking a break from posting on here. Uncomfortable with some of the stuff written last night, also the idea you are judged according to where you sit, that other posters discuss what type of fan you are off the forum (WTF!?) and that as soon as you disagree with someone they get personal. Stay positive![/p][/quote]Don't take any notice, if you can be brave behind an online blog they must be lions in real life, not. I have decided to respond to the well written and thought out posts and ignore the moronic ones. Hope you enjoy the game to. fascia123
  • Score: 1

11:34am Sat 23 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

SFCOLDBOY wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog.

No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle.

I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!!

Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.
Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.
You told me you've been here for years a couple of days ago... just saying.
You always smell a rat when sh1tehawk is not posting - as he is a constant positive poster to the extreme and attention seeker - one of his many log ins today on this thread methinks.
COYRWS
What on earth is this thread about? Fascia talks a lot of sense and never slags anybody far as I can see. This is a total wind up. Costa you always post loads on here. Foot, you constantly complain about people disagreeing with your opinions and used to have a horrible little tag line for Katherina Liebherr which you seem to have dropped these days so to call out Fascia is a joke.
It will all be ok,there's a rumour going round that the DE have approached Malkie Mackay,with a view to him becoming the new thread moderator.
Ah great, everything's on the table in that case!
Best to get it all out in the open..oh for the days when PC just meant the local Bobbie,and all you got was a clip round the ear for being rude.
Hope Frankie Bennett and his Son enjoy being front line in BLOCK 3 in Itchen North.

Must admit I had FB down for the Chapel or the Kingsland Stand.

May see him there when I walk down from near the Top of that Section.

WE GO FOR THE WIN - nothing more - nothing less.
3 POINTS TOMORROW.
What a strange post.
J7 had FB down for a lightweight - NOT SO.

TOGETHER AS ONE - We go for the 3 POINTS.

RED ARMY. FIGHT and WIN.

To the PUBS before the HOME GAME - Chapel ( Away Fans tolerated only ) Bridge - Royal Oak - Northam Club - J Tree - King xx Fred and the Prince of Wales.

Get Behind the Manager - King RON and the Players.

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON.
Great so see you are still on top form mate.
Er-Indoors,Insane,In

sane jnr and myself will be making as much noise as possible to keep the sleepers in the Chapel awake today.
Going to Millwall, got great memories of our last expedition there.
What a great game and the fantastic crak while we was locked in, waiting to leave.
"We are the Chapel over Here" i.e. Just insane and me.
What a laugh!
COYS
Saw a SAINTS FAN with the words - Where were you in League One - on the back of their shirt

Bit like some of the posters on here.

MILLWALL AWAY was a cracker - and outside the stadium was like a scene from football factory when all our fans were being kept back.

RED ARMY - RED ARMY - RED ARMY. WE RULE THE SOUTH. COYR.
[quote][p][bold]SFCOLDBOY[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: Is this a Saints fans forum or a fascia 123 Blog. No offence fella, (and I really mean it) but you are well over exposing yourself on here. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air and give Osprey and JLS a chance to take back their mantle. I know I’m being cheeky, but for the love of god there is a saying that some should learn on here .... Less is More!!! Please stop feeling the need to reply to just about every post, it does not sit well with me .... enjoy the rest of your day and the season.[/p][/quote]Sorry I am new to this on holiday so time on my hands.[/p][/quote]You told me you've been here for years a couple of days ago... just saying.[/p][/quote]You always smell a rat when sh1tehawk is not posting - as he is a constant positive poster to the extreme and attention seeker - one of his many log ins today on this thread methinks. COYRWS[/p][/quote]What on earth is this thread about? Fascia talks a lot of sense and never slags anybody far as I can see. This is a total wind up. Costa you always post loads on here. Foot, you constantly complain about people disagreeing with your opinions and used to have a horrible little tag line for Katherina Liebherr which you seem to have dropped these days so to call out Fascia is a joke.[/p][/quote]It will all be ok,there's a rumour going round that the DE have approached Malkie Mackay,with a view to him becoming the new thread moderator.[/p][/quote]Ah great, everything's on the table in that case![/p][/quote]Best to get it all out in the open..oh for the days when PC just meant the local Bobbie,and all you got was a clip round the ear for being rude.[/p][/quote]Hope Frankie Bennett and his Son enjoy being front line in BLOCK 3 in Itchen North. Must admit I had FB down for the Chapel or the Kingsland Stand. May see him there when I walk down from near the Top of that Section. WE GO FOR THE WIN - nothing more - nothing less. 3 POINTS TOMORROW.[/p][/quote]What a strange post.[/p][/quote]J7 had FB down for a lightweight - NOT SO. TOGETHER AS ONE - We go for the 3 POINTS. RED ARMY. FIGHT and WIN. To the PUBS before the HOME GAME - Chapel ( Away Fans tolerated only ) Bridge - Royal Oak - Northam Club - J Tree - King xx Fred and the Prince of Wales. Get Behind the Manager - King RON and the Players. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON.[/p][/quote]Great so see you are still on top form mate. Er-Indoors,Insane,In sane jnr and myself will be making as much noise as possible to keep the sleepers in the Chapel awake today. Going to Millwall, got great memories of our last expedition there. What a great game and the fantastic crak while we was locked in, waiting to leave. "We are the Chapel over Here" i.e. Just insane and me. What a laugh! COYS[/p][/quote]Saw a SAINTS FAN with the words - Where were you in League One - on the back of their shirt Bit like some of the posters on here. MILLWALL AWAY was a cracker - and outside the stadium was like a scene from football factory when all our fans were being kept back. RED ARMY - RED ARMY - RED ARMY. WE RULE THE SOUTH. COYR. The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 1
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