It means everything to have Schneiderlin back in Saints team, says Jose Fonte

Morgan Schneiderlin

Morgan Schneiderlin

First published in Sport Basingstoke Gazette: Photograph of the Author by , Senior Sports Reporter

Jose Fonte says it “means everything” to have Morgan Schneiderlin back in the Saints team.

The midfielder started Sunday’s 2-1 defeat at Liverpool, just a week after missing the club’s final pre-season friendly.

Schneiderlin had been allowed to sit out the Bayer Leverkusen match after declaring himself to be neither physically nor mentally prepared to play.

It was a situation that arose after the St Mary’s board informed the Tottenham target he would not be sold this summer.

Despite his disappointment and frustration, Schneiderlin returned to training last week in a good frame of mind, according to manager Ronald Koeman, who added he had “accepted” the club’s decision.

The 24-year-old’s efforts were enough to satisfy Koeman that he should start at Anfield, and team captain Fonte was delighted to have him in the line-up.

“It means everything,” he said. “We all know how important he is.

“He’s a great player and he showed again why there is interest in him. I’m just thankful that he played for us.”

Schneiderlin is understood to believe he had a verbal agreement with the club that he could leave this summer.

However, that was said to have been struck with former chairman Nicola Cortese, meaning it holds no weight with the current board, who understandably wish to retain the player.

Despite the issues that have arisen in the background, Fonte insisted that Schneiderlin has remained a committed member of the squad.

“He’s always been a very good professional,” he said. “He’s always been on top of his game and he does what he has to do. He still has a contract with us and he has been very professional.”

Tottenham have already failed with one £10m offer for Schneiderlin, and there are suggestions they will return with an improved bid.

The Saints board have been consistent in their stance so far, however, that they will not sell the player.

Fonte, who has played in the same side as the Frenchman for the last four-and-a-half years, believes it would be a huge boost to the team if they retain him for the season.

“It would be massive,” said Fonte, who added that he “hopes” Schneiderlin will still be at Saints after the transfer window has shut.

“He’s one of the most important players for us, so we’re just pleased that he’s still with us.”

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5:55am Wed 20 Aug 14

Tirau Dan says...

And it means everything to the fans Morgan... you are player a team build around, you keep us grounded and solid. The team is looking great all the better with you : COYR
And it means everything to the fans Morgan... you are player a team build around, you keep us grounded and solid. The team is looking great all the better with you : COYR Tirau Dan
  • Score: 75

6:48am Wed 20 Aug 14

Optimist says...

So Cortese made the promise?
In any case I still think that we/Saints need to match our ambitions to Morgans, I would love us to finish above Tottenham
So Cortese made the promise? In any case I still think that we/Saints need to match our ambitions to Morgans, I would love us to finish above Tottenham Optimist
  • Score: 51

7:04am Wed 20 Aug 14

BarnetSaint says...

Levy WILL be back for Morgan because that sly character pooch wants him.
We must beat away any attempt to buy him.
Levy WILL be back for Morgan because that sly character pooch wants him. We must beat away any attempt to buy him. BarnetSaint
  • Score: 37

7:15am Wed 20 Aug 14

Goalscoringmachine says...

We need a Morgan song/chant. How about to the Spiderman theme tune; "Schneiderlin, Schneiderlin does whatever we need to win, watch out here comes Schneiderlin". Any poets out there please step in....
We need a Morgan song/chant. How about to the Spiderman theme tune; "Schneiderlin, Schneiderlin does whatever we need to win, watch out here comes Schneiderlin". Any poets out there please step in.... Goalscoringmachine
  • Score: 10

7:15am Wed 20 Aug 14

Malcombe says...

Tirau Dan
A very good comment and I agree Morgan is that good a Team could be built around him, last Sunday he didn't let the Team down and was unlucky not to score however I am not sure if I was alone in thinking when watching the game that Morgan's body language and facial expression were not 100% looking like a happy man, we are human and when a temptation is floating in the brain concentrating wavers but IMO it is not the end of the possibility that he will leave, I sincerely hope he doesn't leave but if there's no holding him back I would rather he went to Arsenal for obvious reason. Circumstances could change where the Team is having a winning streak particularly in the next 8 games and near or even top of the League perhaps that will settle Morgan, at the moment he's a bit like a Dog with his tail between his legs but as time passes with having to concentrate in Training and playing games he may change his mind and continue enjoying his job and the possibility of leaving has been put to bed, we all hope it will die a natural death because he is an important Player to the Saints not my words but Ronald's and now Jose has said virtually the same and they should know. COYR
Tirau Dan A very good comment and I agree Morgan is that good a Team could be built around him, last Sunday he didn't let the Team down and was unlucky not to score however I am not sure if I was alone in thinking when watching the game that Morgan's body language and facial expression were not 100% looking like a happy man, we are human and when a temptation is floating in the brain concentrating wavers but IMO it is not the end of the possibility that he will leave, I sincerely hope he doesn't leave but if there's no holding him back I would rather he went to Arsenal for obvious reason. Circumstances could change where the Team is having a winning streak particularly in the next 8 games and near or even top of the League perhaps that will settle Morgan, at the moment he's a bit like a Dog with his tail between his legs but as time passes with having to concentrate in Training and playing games he may change his mind and continue enjoying his job and the possibility of leaving has been put to bed, we all hope it will die a natural death because he is an important Player to the Saints not my words but Ronald's and now Jose has said virtually the same and they should know. COYR Malcombe
  • Score: 28

7:22am Wed 20 Aug 14

Shareholder says...

Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.
Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so. Shareholder
  • Score: 30

7:25am Wed 20 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

£10m is derisory he is worth £20-25m at least in this new market that has risen in value since the increase in sky money which is probably why they didn't sell him.

Football needs a governing body that manages the finances and filters much more down to grass roots and the kids. The figure spent by the FA per annum is not much more than the Luke Shaw transfer which is disgusting. If Sky doubled the money again next year all that would happen is yet a further increase in transfer fees and wages for the same group of players so no more available for infrastructure improvements and so on. The government needs to realise football doesn't have the brains to manage itself.
£10m is derisory he is worth £20-25m at least in this new market that has risen in value since the increase in sky money which is probably why they didn't sell him. Football needs a governing body that manages the finances and filters much more down to grass roots and the kids. The figure spent by the FA per annum is not much more than the Luke Shaw transfer which is disgusting. If Sky doubled the money again next year all that would happen is yet a further increase in transfer fees and wages for the same group of players so no more available for infrastructure improvements and so on. The government needs to realise football doesn't have the brains to manage itself. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 36

7:33am Wed 20 Aug 14

Dubai-saints89 says...

if we Finnish above spurs and enter into Europe via the league/cup i am sure he would stay. and so would everyone else. top players leave to try and accomplish bigger things i.e chambers, already a winner. so we cant fault them for that, so i understand why spider wants to leave, nothing against the club/fans.
:) so lets hope for a very successful season. COYR's
if we Finnish above spurs and enter into Europe via the league/cup i am sure he would stay. and so would everyone else. top players leave to try and accomplish bigger things i.e chambers, already a winner. so we cant fault them for that, so i understand why spider wants to leave, nothing against the club/fans. :) so lets hope for a very successful season. COYR's Dubai-saints89
  • Score: 23

7:33am Wed 20 Aug 14

murfmeister says...

Shareholder wrote:
Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.
Money! Pure and simple. Spurs will double his wages. Saints have financial fair play restrictions and can't just double his money even if they wanted to. If another company offered to pay you double for the same job, would you stay? Really?
[quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.[/p][/quote]Money! Pure and simple. Spurs will double his wages. Saints have financial fair play restrictions and can't just double his money even if they wanted to. If another company offered to pay you double for the same job, would you stay? Really? murfmeister
  • Score: 15

7:37am Wed 20 Aug 14

Graham, North of Watford says...

Just a note if Morgan or his friends read these pages.

I remember your first match for us and I thought

" Who is this fresh faced Froggy and what the hell this kid doing in our Team".

Well, you have matured into such a quality Player and the rock that our eam works around. The commentators tended to think that Lallana had that role but I never agreed - it was you.

My dream is that the Saints also realise this and bend over backwards to keep you.

You are France's best export, even superior to a wrm, fresh baguette and a bowl of steaming black coffee.

Vive La France. Vive Morgan. Vive les Saintes

Allez vous on! mon copain. Ou, peut-etre "Va tu on!!! Mon Brave.

Peut etre c'est un grand insult mais tu es, dans ma tete "Un Anglais Honoraire"

"allez Les Saintes, Allez" to the tune of the French mostly Rugby chant just to let him know we respect him for what he has become
Just a note if Morgan or his friends read these pages. I remember your first match for us and I thought " Who is this fresh faced Froggy and what the hell this kid doing in our Team". Well, you have matured into such a quality Player and the rock that our eam works around. The commentators tended to think that Lallana had that role but I never agreed - it was you. My dream is that the Saints also realise this and bend over backwards to keep you. You are France's best export, even superior to a wrm, fresh baguette and a bowl of steaming black coffee. Vive La France. Vive Morgan. Vive les Saintes Allez vous on! mon copain. Ou, peut-etre "Va tu on!!! Mon Brave. Peut etre c'est un grand insult mais tu es, dans ma tete "Un Anglais Honoraire" "allez Les Saintes, Allez" to the tune of the French mostly Rugby chant just to let him know we respect him for what he has become Graham, North of Watford
  • Score: 9

7:40am Wed 20 Aug 14

warrens 76 says...

Shareholder wrote:
Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.
Cortese always did what he thought was in the best interests of the club whilst the club had a n interest in him..
He told players they were worth x and would not let them go for y…
In using Lambert as an example you have kind of shot your own argument…a) he was going to a lesser club, b) He was getting 7/8million not 4 million c) LFC would not have got him and all that followed.

Look everything about NC is pure speculation we do not know, none of us…what we do Know is he engineered the safety of our club, he improved us 5 years on the spin, he one us JPT then back to back promotions and recruited ever more succesful managers….

Financially he took an original 14 million investment and adding in staplewood and poor signings (everyone has em) and turned us into a club worth 200-250 million which is a staggering ROI in any business, in football probably never been done!

He has gone and it is histrory but his PROVEN record is unarguable.
[quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.[/p][/quote]Cortese always did what he thought was in the best interests of the club whilst the club had a n interest in him.. He told players they were worth x and would not let them go for y… In using Lambert as an example you have kind of shot your own argument…a) he was going to a lesser club, b) He was getting 7/8million not 4 million c) LFC would not have got him and all that followed. Look everything about NC is pure speculation we do not know, none of us…what we do Know is he engineered the safety of our club, he improved us 5 years on the spin, he one us JPT then back to back promotions and recruited ever more succesful managers…. Financially he took an original 14 million investment and adding in staplewood and poor signings (everyone has em) and turned us into a club worth 200-250 million which is a staggering ROI in any business, in football probably never been done! He has gone and it is histrory but his PROVEN record is unarguable. warrens 76
  • Score: 9

7:40am Wed 20 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Goalscoringmachine wrote:
We need a Morgan song/chant. How about to the Spiderman theme tune; "Schneiderlin, Schneiderlin does whatever we need to win, watch out here comes Schneiderlin". Any poets out there please step in....
Spyderman get's tapped up, wants to win the Euro cup.

Just saying..............
..
[quote][p][bold]Goalscoringmachine[/bold] wrote: We need a Morgan song/chant. How about to the Spiderman theme tune; "Schneiderlin, Schneiderlin does whatever we need to win, watch out here comes Schneiderlin". Any poets out there please step in....[/p][/quote]Spyderman get's tapped up, wants to win the Euro cup. Just saying.............. .. jls217
  • Score: -4

7:46am Wed 20 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Shareholder wrote:
Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.
Seems there were lots of forked tongues over the last 12 months and the players were as responsible as anyone else.

It is alleged that even the academy lads waiting in the wings were being touted. JWP and co reported this to the relevant authority - the then manager's lack of response to it is astounding or would be if he were not partially to blame for it. NC was particularly quiet about it all after his wings were clipped by KL. Read the sequence of alledged communications under the VLAAR topic - quite astounding if true. Thank God it's all behind us now.
[quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.[/p][/quote]Seems there were lots of forked tongues over the last 12 months and the players were as responsible as anyone else. It is alleged that even the academy lads waiting in the wings were being touted. JWP and co reported this to the relevant authority - the then manager's lack of response to it is astounding or would be if he were not partially to blame for it. NC was particularly quiet about it all after his wings were clipped by KL. Read the sequence of alledged communications under the VLAAR topic - quite astounding if true. Thank God it's all behind us now. jls217
  • Score: 11

7:48am Wed 20 Aug 14

Rooflas says...

Shareholder wrote:
Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.
When will the truth come out about all of cortèses past dealings? IMO he has a lot to answer to and would have dragged us back into relegation. Obviously we did rise up two divisions under his watch but was it done with any class? 3 managers, countless disagreements from cleaners to former players, court cases etc etc. What would we have needed most to return to premier league? Cortèse or the liebherrs? I know who my monies on and I'll be backing this board.
As for spider, I would love him to stay and be happy playing for us, but if asking price is met he too will be gone.
[quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.[/p][/quote]When will the truth come out about all of cortèses past dealings? IMO he has a lot to answer to and would have dragged us back into relegation. Obviously we did rise up two divisions under his watch but was it done with any class? 3 managers, countless disagreements from cleaners to former players, court cases etc etc. What would we have needed most to return to premier league? Cortèse or the liebherrs? I know who my monies on and I'll be backing this board. As for spider, I would love him to stay and be happy playing for us, but if asking price is met he too will be gone. Rooflas
  • Score: 3

7:54am Wed 20 Aug 14

jls217 says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.
Cortese always did what he thought was in the best interests of the club whilst the club had a n interest in him..
He told players they were worth x and would not let them go for y…
In using Lambert as an example you have kind of shot your own argument…a) he was going to a lesser club, b) He was getting 7/8million not 4 million c) LFC would not have got him and all that followed.

Look everything about NC is pure speculation we do not know, none of us…what we do Know is he engineered the safety of our club, he improved us 5 years on the spin, he one us JPT then back to back promotions and recruited ever more succesful managers….

Financially he took an original 14 million investment and adding in staplewood and poor signings (everyone has em) and turned us into a club worth 200-250 million which is a staggering ROI in any business, in football probably never been done!

He has gone and it is histrory but his PROVEN record is unarguable.
Cortese ALWAYS did what was best for Cortese - the info trickling out concerning his actions and lack of to suit his purposes after Markus died is noteworthy. Very happy Katharina saw through it and clipped his wings. Interesting to note how NC started acting after that event. If you are a died in the wool NC man (as I was to start with) I doubt you will want to see the allegations surrounding his devious plots. I was open minded as I know the average human is capable of almost anything to serve their needs - NC was extreme even in the pursuance of this it seems.
I would rather remember him for the good years he gave us, acknowledge he was eventually a wrong 'un and give thanks he is no longer here to continue with his power trip and move on to enjoy this new era. But Saint NC he most certainly was not.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.[/p][/quote]Cortese always did what he thought was in the best interests of the club whilst the club had a n interest in him.. He told players they were worth x and would not let them go for y… In using Lambert as an example you have kind of shot your own argument…a) he was going to a lesser club, b) He was getting 7/8million not 4 million c) LFC would not have got him and all that followed. Look everything about NC is pure speculation we do not know, none of us…what we do Know is he engineered the safety of our club, he improved us 5 years on the spin, he one us JPT then back to back promotions and recruited ever more succesful managers…. Financially he took an original 14 million investment and adding in staplewood and poor signings (everyone has em) and turned us into a club worth 200-250 million which is a staggering ROI in any business, in football probably never been done! He has gone and it is histrory but his PROVEN record is unarguable.[/p][/quote]Cortese ALWAYS did what was best for Cortese - the info trickling out concerning his actions and lack of to suit his purposes after Markus died is noteworthy. Very happy Katharina saw through it and clipped his wings. Interesting to note how NC started acting after that event. If you are a died in the wool NC man (as I was to start with) I doubt you will want to see the allegations surrounding his devious plots. I was open minded as I know the average human is capable of almost anything to serve their needs - NC was extreme even in the pursuance of this it seems. I would rather remember him for the good years he gave us, acknowledge he was eventually a wrong 'un and give thanks he is no longer here to continue with his power trip and move on to enjoy this new era. But Saint NC he most certainly was not. jls217
  • Score: 12

7:58am Wed 20 Aug 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Seeing Morgan playing against Liverpool showed how good a player he is. Spurs (& Arsenal, even Liverpool & Manure) will be watching developments.

We must not sell now as it is too late to find a replacement. Every player has his price but we don't want or need to sell so set his price at £30m to deter any bids in January. However as he continues to improve it will be difficult to keep him next summer unless we match his ambitions.

To do that we must bring in a better CB and a proven Goalscorer before the transfer window closes.

The central defence still needs strengthening even if Gardos proves to be as good as Lovren. There are several available like Wollscheid, van Dijk, etc and we can afford them, it will be a big risk if we loose Fonte or Gardos through injury or suspension.

Also goals win games and we must start to convert all the chances we make, we could have drawn or even won had we done this against Liverpool. There are proven Goalscorers about like Bony, Benteke etc but if we can't buy them then a one season loan would do like E'oto.

A pacy winger with a good cross to get the best from Pelle is also needed, plus a possible RB as competition and cover for Cline.

General cover for other positions can be from our next crop of youngsters coming through.

It is usual for a new manager to build his own team so we have to trust RonKo will do that, but the board need to give him these extra three players to complete his team for this season.

You have about 10 days Les so keep going and get these in asap.

COYR&WS
Seeing Morgan playing against Liverpool showed how good a player he is. Spurs (& Arsenal, even Liverpool & Manure) will be watching developments. We must not sell now as it is too late to find a replacement. Every player has his price but we don't want or need to sell so set his price at £30m to deter any bids in January. However as he continues to improve it will be difficult to keep him next summer unless we match his ambitions. To do that we must bring in a better CB and a proven Goalscorer before the transfer window closes. The central defence still needs strengthening even if Gardos proves to be as good as Lovren. There are several available like Wollscheid, van Dijk, etc and we can afford them, it will be a big risk if we loose Fonte or Gardos through injury or suspension. Also goals win games and we must start to convert all the chances we make, we could have drawn or even won had we done this against Liverpool. There are proven Goalscorers about like Bony, Benteke etc but if we can't buy them then a one season loan would do like E'oto. A pacy winger with a good cross to get the best from Pelle is also needed, plus a possible RB as competition and cover for Cline. General cover for other positions can be from our next crop of youngsters coming through. It is usual for a new manager to build his own team so we have to trust RonKo will do that, but the board need to give him these extra three players to complete his team for this season. You have about 10 days Les so keep going and get these in asap. COYR&WS NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 6

8:02am Wed 20 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Back to Morgan. There a few ifs about all this, the biggest being if he can heal the rift in his head between the club and himself this man could be the cornerstone on which the Rambros build Saints for the next ten years I think he is a delight to watch on the park and if there is a MF who commands as much respect once the whistle blows, I haven't seen him yet. There is a value to every player only if that player can be replaced by someone as effective for less money.
I think we would wait for a long long time to find one who fits that bill. Further to that, regardless of this latest spat the fans seem to have taken our resident Froggy to our hearts and long may that continue.
Back to Morgan. There a few ifs about all this, the biggest being if he can heal the rift in his head between the club and himself this man could be the cornerstone on which the Rambros build Saints for the next ten years I think he is a delight to watch on the park and if there is a MF who commands as much respect once the whistle blows, I haven't seen him yet. There is a value to every player only if that player can be replaced by someone as effective for less money. I think we would wait for a long long time to find one who fits that bill. Further to that, regardless of this latest spat the fans seem to have taken our resident Froggy to our hearts and long may that continue. jls217
  • Score: 12

8:08am Wed 20 Aug 14

long memory says...

jls217 wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.
Seems there were lots of forked tongues over the last 12 months and the players were as responsible as anyone else.

It is alleged that even the academy lads waiting in the wings were being touted. JWP and co reported this to the relevant authority - the then manager's lack of response to it is astounding or would be if he were not partially to blame for it. NC was particularly quiet about it all after his wings were clipped by KL. Read the sequence of alledged communications under the VLAAR topic - quite astounding if true. Thank God it's all behind us now.
I have often wondered why two of our youth coaches were dismissed so rapidly,mummmm.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.[/p][/quote]Seems there were lots of forked tongues over the last 12 months and the players were as responsible as anyone else. It is alleged that even the academy lads waiting in the wings were being touted. JWP and co reported this to the relevant authority - the then manager's lack of response to it is astounding or would be if he were not partially to blame for it. NC was particularly quiet about it all after his wings were clipped by KL. Read the sequence of alledged communications under the VLAAR topic - quite astounding if true. Thank God it's all behind us now.[/p][/quote]I have often wondered why two of our youth coaches were dismissed so rapidly,mummmm. long memory
  • Score: 28

8:11am Wed 20 Aug 14

milton road says...

With the amount of money we have turned over this season FP restrictions wouldn't apply to a wage rise for Morgan. In fact we are well within FP limits on our seasons so far.
Also we have signed seven players and Kruger said that the wages for the seven had to come from the transfer kitty, which probably also means agents fees as well. Which is a crafty way of skimming the transfer budget down, after all the club are already saving on the five who have gone wages and the other players who were released. Most clubs when they say 90 mil for players mean just that but not Saints apparently.
You also have to understand Morgan is not at full fitness coming back from the world cup and having three weeks out and then only really just getting into training. I think he will always give 100% on the field just a little match rusty.
As for Spurs the talk is they will come back with 17 mil and that will be their last offer. Which Saints will reject but that is paper talk.
As for gentleman's agreement? Was there ever such a thing? Surely it would be written in the contract, it was one of the stunts Lovren pulled to try and leave. Cortese said after he left that he would not of allowed any player to leave in the close season had he been there. Which throws that into question.
There are certain players whose wage you have to make attractive enough to stay and make other clubs think twice. I think you have to have a tiered wage structure in a club and there are certain players that need to be held by a competitive wage. yes we can do it, we do not have side issues such as the training centre now or outstanding transfer monies.
The next project I understand is to extend St Mary's, yet for this to happen we need to develop our commercial side on a global scale. When Kruger came it was about developing in the States, whilst 16 premiership did a tour of the States in Pre-season Saints were not one of them. (Probably best in the circumstances with all the upset.)
Whilst I do think KL has Saints best interests at heart and a difference of opinion with Cortese does not mean she doesn't, there are several ways to crack an egg. The board have been very guilty of double standards, ie saying one thing and doing something entirely different. If they keep to their stance on Morgan and others and bring in another couple of players, then they will have done a little in regaining fans confidence.
The players going and the board's stance is not a matter of right or wrong but grey areas on both sides. its grey areas that have created this mess. Things that should of be done quickly and dealt with were not. Things that should of been made clear and matters addressed were not.
Hopefully that was a learning curve and will not arise again. Hopefully the talent we have bought in will make us a bigger and better club. Only time will tell
COYR's
With the amount of money we have turned over this season FP restrictions wouldn't apply to a wage rise for Morgan. In fact we are well within FP limits on our seasons so far. Also we have signed seven players and Kruger said that the wages for the seven had to come from the transfer kitty, which probably also means agents fees as well. Which is a crafty way of skimming the transfer budget down, after all the club are already saving on the five who have gone wages and the other players who were released. Most clubs when they say 90 mil for players mean just that but not Saints apparently. You also have to understand Morgan is not at full fitness coming back from the world cup and having three weeks out and then only really just getting into training. I think he will always give 100% on the field just a little match rusty. As for Spurs the talk is they will come back with 17 mil and that will be their last offer. Which Saints will reject but that is paper talk. As for gentleman's agreement? Was there ever such a thing? Surely it would be written in the contract, it was one of the stunts Lovren pulled to try and leave. Cortese said after he left that he would not of allowed any player to leave in the close season had he been there. Which throws that into question. There are certain players whose wage you have to make attractive enough to stay and make other clubs think twice. I think you have to have a tiered wage structure in a club and there are certain players that need to be held by a competitive wage. yes we can do it, we do not have side issues such as the training centre now or outstanding transfer monies. The next project I understand is to extend St Mary's, yet for this to happen we need to develop our commercial side on a global scale. When Kruger came it was about developing in the States, whilst 16 premiership did a tour of the States in Pre-season Saints were not one of them. (Probably best in the circumstances with all the upset.) Whilst I do think KL has Saints best interests at heart and a difference of opinion with Cortese does not mean she doesn't, there are several ways to crack an egg. The board have been very guilty of double standards, ie saying one thing and doing something entirely different. If they keep to their stance on Morgan and others and bring in another couple of players, then they will have done a little in regaining fans confidence. The players going and the board's stance is not a matter of right or wrong but grey areas on both sides. its grey areas that have created this mess. Things that should of be done quickly and dealt with were not. Things that should of been made clear and matters addressed were not. Hopefully that was a learning curve and will not arise again. Hopefully the talent we have bought in will make us a bigger and better club. Only time will tell COYR's milton road
  • Score: 6

8:11am Wed 20 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

NC was a clever man .......... He knew the promises he had made to a number of players and knew without a £200 million hand out for the next 5 year plan he wasn't going to deliver hence he kicked off with KL and jumped ship ...........

As for Morgan do you think Levy is using Townsend the pacy winger RonKom wants as a swap plus £ to lure Spiderman ?????
NC was a clever man .......... He knew the promises he had made to a number of players and knew without a £200 million hand out for the next 5 year plan he wasn't going to deliver hence he kicked off with KL and jumped ship ........... As for Morgan do you think Levy is using Townsend the pacy winger RonKom wants as a swap plus £ to lure Spiderman ????? Buddy SFC
  • Score: 1

8:17am Wed 20 Aug 14

warrens 76 says...

milton road wrote:
With the amount of money we have turned over this season FP restrictions wouldn't apply to a wage rise for Morgan. In fact we are well within FP limits on our seasons so far.
Also we have signed seven players and Kruger said that the wages for the seven had to come from the transfer kitty, which probably also means agents fees as well. Which is a crafty way of skimming the transfer budget down, after all the club are already saving on the five who have gone wages and the other players who were released. Most clubs when they say 90 mil for players mean just that but not Saints apparently.
You also have to understand Morgan is not at full fitness coming back from the world cup and having three weeks out and then only really just getting into training. I think he will always give 100% on the field just a little match rusty.
As for Spurs the talk is they will come back with 17 mil and that will be their last offer. Which Saints will reject but that is paper talk.
As for gentleman's agreement? Was there ever such a thing? Surely it would be written in the contract, it was one of the stunts Lovren pulled to try and leave. Cortese said after he left that he would not of allowed any player to leave in the close season had he been there. Which throws that into question.
There are certain players whose wage you have to make attractive enough to stay and make other clubs think twice. I think you have to have a tiered wage structure in a club and there are certain players that need to be held by a competitive wage. yes we can do it, we do not have side issues such as the training centre now or outstanding transfer monies.
The next project I understand is to extend St Mary's, yet for this to happen we need to develop our commercial side on a global scale. When Kruger came it was about developing in the States, whilst 16 premiership did a tour of the States in Pre-season Saints were not one of them. (Probably best in the circumstances with all the upset.)
Whilst I do think KL has Saints best interests at heart and a difference of opinion with Cortese does not mean she doesn't, there are several ways to crack an egg. The board have been very guilty of double standards, ie saying one thing and doing something entirely different. If they keep to their stance on Morgan and others and bring in another couple of players, then they will have done a little in regaining fans confidence.
The players going and the board's stance is not a matter of right or wrong but grey areas on both sides. its grey areas that have created this mess. Things that should of be done quickly and dealt with were not. Things that should of been made clear and matters addressed were not.
Hopefully that was a learning curve and will not arise again. Hopefully the talent we have bought in will make us a bigger and better club. Only time will tell
COYR's
Sensible.
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: With the amount of money we have turned over this season FP restrictions wouldn't apply to a wage rise for Morgan. In fact we are well within FP limits on our seasons so far. Also we have signed seven players and Kruger said that the wages for the seven had to come from the transfer kitty, which probably also means agents fees as well. Which is a crafty way of skimming the transfer budget down, after all the club are already saving on the five who have gone wages and the other players who were released. Most clubs when they say 90 mil for players mean just that but not Saints apparently. You also have to understand Morgan is not at full fitness coming back from the world cup and having three weeks out and then only really just getting into training. I think he will always give 100% on the field just a little match rusty. As for Spurs the talk is they will come back with 17 mil and that will be their last offer. Which Saints will reject but that is paper talk. As for gentleman's agreement? Was there ever such a thing? Surely it would be written in the contract, it was one of the stunts Lovren pulled to try and leave. Cortese said after he left that he would not of allowed any player to leave in the close season had he been there. Which throws that into question. There are certain players whose wage you have to make attractive enough to stay and make other clubs think twice. I think you have to have a tiered wage structure in a club and there are certain players that need to be held by a competitive wage. yes we can do it, we do not have side issues such as the training centre now or outstanding transfer monies. The next project I understand is to extend St Mary's, yet for this to happen we need to develop our commercial side on a global scale. When Kruger came it was about developing in the States, whilst 16 premiership did a tour of the States in Pre-season Saints were not one of them. (Probably best in the circumstances with all the upset.) Whilst I do think KL has Saints best interests at heart and a difference of opinion with Cortese does not mean she doesn't, there are several ways to crack an egg. The board have been very guilty of double standards, ie saying one thing and doing something entirely different. If they keep to their stance on Morgan and others and bring in another couple of players, then they will have done a little in regaining fans confidence. The players going and the board's stance is not a matter of right or wrong but grey areas on both sides. its grey areas that have created this mess. Things that should of be done quickly and dealt with were not. Things that should of been made clear and matters addressed were not. Hopefully that was a learning curve and will not arise again. Hopefully the talent we have bought in will make us a bigger and better club. Only time will tell COYR's[/p][/quote]Sensible. warrens 76
  • Score: 4

8:18am Wed 20 Aug 14

milton road says...

Buddy SFC wrote:
NC was a clever man .......... He knew the promises he had made to a number of players and knew without a £200 million hand out for the next 5 year plan he wasn't going to deliver hence he kicked off with KL and jumped ship ...........

As for Morgan do you think Levy is using Townsend the pacy winger RonKom wants as a swap plus £ to lure Spiderman ?????
Maybe a possibility but then Saints have to look elsewhere for a winger. Morgan is more crucial than Townsend to our future. Townsend is very unpredictable and not at all sure he is the right player for us anyway.
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: NC was a clever man .......... He knew the promises he had made to a number of players and knew without a £200 million hand out for the next 5 year plan he wasn't going to deliver hence he kicked off with KL and jumped ship ........... As for Morgan do you think Levy is using Townsend the pacy winger RonKom wants as a swap plus £ to lure Spiderman ?????[/p][/quote]Maybe a possibility but then Saints have to look elsewhere for a winger. Morgan is more crucial than Townsend to our future. Townsend is very unpredictable and not at all sure he is the right player for us anyway. milton road
  • Score: 4

8:19am Wed 20 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

jls217 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.
Cortese always did what he thought was in the best interests of the club whilst the club had a n interest in him..
He told players they were worth x and would not let them go for y…
In using Lambert as an example you have kind of shot your own argument…a) he was going to a lesser club, b) He was getting 7/8million not 4 million c) LFC would not have got him and all that followed.

Look everything about NC is pure speculation we do not know, none of us…what we do Know is he engineered the safety of our club, he improved us 5 years on the spin, he one us JPT then back to back promotions and recruited ever more succesful managers….

Financially he took an original 14 million investment and adding in staplewood and poor signings (everyone has em) and turned us into a club worth 200-250 million which is a staggering ROI in any business, in football probably never been done!

He has gone and it is histrory but his PROVEN record is unarguable.
Cortese ALWAYS did what was best for Cortese - the info trickling out concerning his actions and lack of to suit his purposes after Markus died is noteworthy. Very happy Katharina saw through it and clipped his wings. Interesting to note how NC started acting after that event. If you are a died in the wool NC man (as I was to start with) I doubt you will want to see the allegations surrounding his devious plots. I was open minded as I know the average human is capable of almost anything to serve their needs - NC was extreme even in the pursuance of this it seems.
I would rather remember him for the good years he gave us, acknowledge he was eventually a wrong 'un and give thanks he is no longer here to continue with his power trip and move on to enjoy this new era. But Saint NC he most certainly was not.
You have an amazingly low opinion of Markus Liebherr's judgement who not only followed Cortese's advice to buy SFC but also insisted he ran it. He was also put in charge of the Liebherr Trust and was involved with the Mali group. Liebherr obviously saw something you didn't.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.[/p][/quote]Cortese always did what he thought was in the best interests of the club whilst the club had a n interest in him.. He told players they were worth x and would not let them go for y… In using Lambert as an example you have kind of shot your own argument…a) he was going to a lesser club, b) He was getting 7/8million not 4 million c) LFC would not have got him and all that followed. Look everything about NC is pure speculation we do not know, none of us…what we do Know is he engineered the safety of our club, he improved us 5 years on the spin, he one us JPT then back to back promotions and recruited ever more succesful managers…. Financially he took an original 14 million investment and adding in staplewood and poor signings (everyone has em) and turned us into a club worth 200-250 million which is a staggering ROI in any business, in football probably never been done! He has gone and it is histrory but his PROVEN record is unarguable.[/p][/quote]Cortese ALWAYS did what was best for Cortese - the info trickling out concerning his actions and lack of to suit his purposes after Markus died is noteworthy. Very happy Katharina saw through it and clipped his wings. Interesting to note how NC started acting after that event. If you are a died in the wool NC man (as I was to start with) I doubt you will want to see the allegations surrounding his devious plots. I was open minded as I know the average human is capable of almost anything to serve their needs - NC was extreme even in the pursuance of this it seems. I would rather remember him for the good years he gave us, acknowledge he was eventually a wrong 'un and give thanks he is no longer here to continue with his power trip and move on to enjoy this new era. But Saint NC he most certainly was not.[/p][/quote]You have an amazingly low opinion of Markus Liebherr's judgement who not only followed Cortese's advice to buy SFC but also insisted he ran it. He was also put in charge of the Liebherr Trust and was involved with the Mali group. Liebherr obviously saw something you didn't. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 5

8:23am Wed 20 Aug 14

saintthomas says...

Rooflas wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.
When will the truth come out about all of cortèses past dealings? IMO he has a lot to answer to and would have dragged us back into relegation. Obviously we did rise up two divisions under his watch but was it done with any class? 3 managers, countless disagreements from cleaners to former players, court cases etc etc. What would we have needed most to return to premier league? Cortèse or the liebherrs? I know who my monies on and I'll be backing this board.
As for spider, I would love him to stay and be happy playing for us, but if asking price is met he too will be gone.
So in my opinion KL had sacked Cortese, while he was out of control in the financel department also in agreements with some Players. I am thinking she was heading for a loyal person at the helm as CEO to her and our beloved club. If you running a business of your own would you have a manager that gives a Budget of £15m to rebuild staplewood and the costs will rise up to £30m or more? Would you have a man that gives gentleman
agreements to some players and perhaps you knowing nothing about such things? No I am thinking nobody would have such a person on the Joysticks! All the players they has left, was in the same position as Spider was. I am thinking the bord an RonKo had seen the potential of Morgan and that was the reason, he was not sold. Please apologise, my English is horrible as it is!
UP the saints till I die
[quote][p][bold]Rooflas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.[/p][/quote]When will the truth come out about all of cortèses past dealings? IMO he has a lot to answer to and would have dragged us back into relegation. Obviously we did rise up two divisions under his watch but was it done with any class? 3 managers, countless disagreements from cleaners to former players, court cases etc etc. What would we have needed most to return to premier league? Cortèse or the liebherrs? I know who my monies on and I'll be backing this board. As for spider, I would love him to stay and be happy playing for us, but if asking price is met he too will be gone.[/p][/quote]So in my opinion KL had sacked Cortese, while he was out of control in the financel department also in agreements with some Players. I am thinking she was heading for a loyal person at the helm as CEO to her and our beloved club. If you running a business of your own would you have a manager that gives a Budget of £15m to rebuild staplewood and the costs will rise up to £30m or more? Would you have a man that gives gentleman agreements to some players and perhaps you knowing nothing about such things? No I am thinking nobody would have such a person on the Joysticks! All the players they has left, was in the same position as Spider was. I am thinking the bord an RonKo had seen the potential of Morgan and that was the reason, he was not sold. Please apologise, my English is horrible as it is! UP the saints till I die saintthomas
  • Score: 4

8:24am Wed 20 Aug 14

Clever Dick says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.
Cortese always did what he thought was in the best interests of the club whilst the club had a n interest in him..
He told players they were worth x and would not let them go for y…
In using Lambert as an example you have kind of shot your own argument…a) he was going to a lesser club, b) He was getting 7/8million not 4 million c) LFC would not have got him and all that followed.

Look everything about NC is pure speculation we do not know, none of us…what we do Know is he engineered the safety of our club, he improved us 5 years on the spin, he one us JPT then back to back promotions and recruited ever more succesful managers….

Financially he took an original 14 million investment and adding in staplewood and poor signings (everyone has em) and turned us into a club worth 200-250 million which is a staggering ROI in any business, in football probably never been done!

He has gone and it is histrory but his PROVEN record is unarguable.
That' not such a great achievement really. He only took the initial investment and multiplied it by 20 times. Now if he had bought Poopey for £1 he could easily have mutiplied it by 100 times. Sadly for them he didn't so it's still worth the aforementioned £1.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.[/p][/quote]Cortese always did what he thought was in the best interests of the club whilst the club had a n interest in him.. He told players they were worth x and would not let them go for y… In using Lambert as an example you have kind of shot your own argument…a) he was going to a lesser club, b) He was getting 7/8million not 4 million c) LFC would not have got him and all that followed. Look everything about NC is pure speculation we do not know, none of us…what we do Know is he engineered the safety of our club, he improved us 5 years on the spin, he one us JPT then back to back promotions and recruited ever more succesful managers…. Financially he took an original 14 million investment and adding in staplewood and poor signings (everyone has em) and turned us into a club worth 200-250 million which is a staggering ROI in any business, in football probably never been done! He has gone and it is histrory but his PROVEN record is unarguable.[/p][/quote]That' not such a great achievement really. He only took the initial investment and multiplied it by 20 times. Now if he had bought Poopey for £1 he could easily have mutiplied it by 100 times. Sadly for them he didn't so it's still worth the aforementioned £1. Clever Dick
  • Score: 8

8:27am Wed 20 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Southampton will go back for another bid to sign Tottenham winger Andros Townsend.They have already had a £10m offer turned down for the England international but Saints boss Ronald Koeman wants to go back. (Daily Mirror)
Read more at http://talksport.com
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Keep annoying them Rambo - you have our full backing!
Southampton will go back for another bid to sign Tottenham winger Andros Townsend.They have already had a £10m offer turned down for the England international but Saints boss Ronald Koeman wants to go back. (Daily Mirror) Read more at http://talksport.com /football/transfer-r umours-and-paper-rev iew-wednesday-august -20-140820108805#GG8 vG5CjQFsK9hXM.99 Keep annoying them Rambo - you have our full backing! jls217
  • Score: 5

8:34am Wed 20 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
jls217 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.
Cortese always did what he thought was in the best interests of the club whilst the club had a n interest in him..
He told players they were worth x and would not let them go for y…
In using Lambert as an example you have kind of shot your own argument…a) he was going to a lesser club, b) He was getting 7/8million not 4 million c) LFC would not have got him and all that followed.

Look everything about NC is pure speculation we do not know, none of us…what we do Know is he engineered the safety of our club, he improved us 5 years on the spin, he one us JPT then back to back promotions and recruited ever more succesful managers….

Financially he took an original 14 million investment and adding in staplewood and poor signings (everyone has em) and turned us into a club worth 200-250 million which is a staggering ROI in any business, in football probably never been done!

He has gone and it is histrory but his PROVEN record is unarguable.
Cortese ALWAYS did what was best for Cortese - the info trickling out concerning his actions and lack of to suit his purposes after Markus died is noteworthy. Very happy Katharina saw through it and clipped his wings. Interesting to note how NC started acting after that event. If you are a died in the wool NC man (as I was to start with) I doubt you will want to see the allegations surrounding his devious plots. I was open minded as I know the average human is capable of almost anything to serve their needs - NC was extreme even in the pursuance of this it seems.
I would rather remember him for the good years he gave us, acknowledge he was eventually a wrong 'un and give thanks he is no longer here to continue with his power trip and move on to enjoy this new era. But Saint NC he most certainly was not.
You have an amazingly low opinion of Markus Liebherr's judgement who not only followed Cortese's advice to buy SFC but also insisted he ran it. He was also put in charge of the Liebherr Trust and was involved with the Mali group. Liebherr obviously saw something you didn't.
Yes on a daily basis she saw something we didn't which was why she reined him in.
I, for one, would not have the temerity to have an opinion on the genius of Markus Liebherr or his judgement.

Power corrupts and total power corrupts totally.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.[/p][/quote]Cortese always did what he thought was in the best interests of the club whilst the club had a n interest in him.. He told players they were worth x and would not let them go for y… In using Lambert as an example you have kind of shot your own argument…a) he was going to a lesser club, b) He was getting 7/8million not 4 million c) LFC would not have got him and all that followed. Look everything about NC is pure speculation we do not know, none of us…what we do Know is he engineered the safety of our club, he improved us 5 years on the spin, he one us JPT then back to back promotions and recruited ever more succesful managers…. Financially he took an original 14 million investment and adding in staplewood and poor signings (everyone has em) and turned us into a club worth 200-250 million which is a staggering ROI in any business, in football probably never been done! He has gone and it is histrory but his PROVEN record is unarguable.[/p][/quote]Cortese ALWAYS did what was best for Cortese - the info trickling out concerning his actions and lack of to suit his purposes after Markus died is noteworthy. Very happy Katharina saw through it and clipped his wings. Interesting to note how NC started acting after that event. If you are a died in the wool NC man (as I was to start with) I doubt you will want to see the allegations surrounding his devious plots. I was open minded as I know the average human is capable of almost anything to serve their needs - NC was extreme even in the pursuance of this it seems. I would rather remember him for the good years he gave us, acknowledge he was eventually a wrong 'un and give thanks he is no longer here to continue with his power trip and move on to enjoy this new era. But Saint NC he most certainly was not.[/p][/quote]You have an amazingly low opinion of Markus Liebherr's judgement who not only followed Cortese's advice to buy SFC but also insisted he ran it. He was also put in charge of the Liebherr Trust and was involved with the Mali group. Liebherr obviously saw something you didn't.[/p][/quote]Yes on a daily basis she saw something we didn't which was why she reined him in. I, for one, would not have the temerity to have an opinion on the genius of Markus Liebherr or his judgement. Power corrupts and total power corrupts totally. jls217
  • Score: 2

8:35am Wed 20 Aug 14

Benali76 says...

murfmeister wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.
Money! Pure and simple. Spurs will double his wages. Saints have financial fair play restrictions and can't just double his money even if they wanted to. If another company offered to pay you double for the same job, would you stay? Really?
Personally I think if I was earning £35K a week money would cease to be of any relevance to decisions in my life.
[quote][p][bold]murfmeister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.[/p][/quote]Money! Pure and simple. Spurs will double his wages. Saints have financial fair play restrictions and can't just double his money even if they wanted to. If another company offered to pay you double for the same job, would you stay? Really?[/p][/quote]Personally I think if I was earning £35K a week money would cease to be of any relevance to decisions in my life. Benali76
  • Score: 6

8:41am Wed 20 Aug 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
Seeing Morgan playing against Liverpool showed how good a player he is. Spurs (& Arsenal, even Liverpool & Manure) will be watching developments.

We must not sell now as it is too late to find a replacement. Every player has his price but we don't want or need to sell so set his price at £30m to deter any bids in January. However as he continues to improve it will be difficult to keep him next summer unless we match his ambitions.

To do that we must bring in a better CB and a proven Goalscorer before the transfer window closes.

The central defence still needs strengthening even if Gardos proves to be as good as Lovren. There are several available like Wollscheid, van Dijk, etc and we can afford them, it will be a big risk if we loose Fonte or Gardos through injury or suspension.

Also goals win games and we must start to convert all the chances we make, we could have drawn or even won had we done this against Liverpool. There are proven Goalscorers about like Bony, Benteke etc but if we can't buy them then a one season loan would do like E'oto.

A pacy winger with a good cross to get the best from Pelle is also needed, plus a possible RB as competition and cover for Cline.

General cover for other positions can be from our next crop of youngsters coming through.

It is usual for a new manager to build his own team so we have to trust RonKo will do that, but the board need to give him these extra three players to complete his team for this season.

You have about 10 days Les so keep going and get these in asap.

COYR&WS
Another one who thinks Eto'o would fit in at saints...

NO

Fans who make these suggestions don't know enough about football imo. Eto'o hasn't got a club so he can't be loaned ffs. He's old and past it. His signing on fee and wages would cost millions. And for what? a few minutes off the bench and a couple of goals? C'mon now.

I'd prefer Papa Waigo any day!!
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Seeing Morgan playing against Liverpool showed how good a player he is. Spurs (& Arsenal, even Liverpool & Manure) will be watching developments. We must not sell now as it is too late to find a replacement. Every player has his price but we don't want or need to sell so set his price at £30m to deter any bids in January. However as he continues to improve it will be difficult to keep him next summer unless we match his ambitions. To do that we must bring in a better CB and a proven Goalscorer before the transfer window closes. The central defence still needs strengthening even if Gardos proves to be as good as Lovren. There are several available like Wollscheid, van Dijk, etc and we can afford them, it will be a big risk if we loose Fonte or Gardos through injury or suspension. Also goals win games and we must start to convert all the chances we make, we could have drawn or even won had we done this against Liverpool. There are proven Goalscorers about like Bony, Benteke etc but if we can't buy them then a one season loan would do like E'oto. A pacy winger with a good cross to get the best from Pelle is also needed, plus a possible RB as competition and cover for Cline. General cover for other positions can be from our next crop of youngsters coming through. It is usual for a new manager to build his own team so we have to trust RonKo will do that, but the board need to give him these extra three players to complete his team for this season. You have about 10 days Les so keep going and get these in asap. COYR&WS[/p][/quote]Another one who thinks Eto'o would fit in at saints... NO Fans who make these suggestions don't know enough about football imo. Eto'o hasn't got a club so he can't be loaned ffs. He's old and past it. His signing on fee and wages would cost millions. And for what? a few minutes off the bench and a couple of goals? C'mon now. I'd prefer Papa Waigo any day!! SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: 28

8:44am Wed 20 Aug 14

spratt says...

saintthomas wrote:
Rooflas wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.
When will the truth come out about all of cortèses past dealings? IMO he has a lot to answer to and would have dragged us back into relegation. Obviously we did rise up two divisions under his watch but was it done with any class? 3 managers, countless disagreements from cleaners to former players, court cases etc etc. What would we have needed most to return to premier league? Cortèse or the liebherrs? I know who my monies on and I'll be backing this board.
As for spider, I would love him to stay and be happy playing for us, but if asking price is met he too will be gone.
So in my opinion KL had sacked Cortese, while he was out of control in the financel department also in agreements with some Players. I am thinking she was heading for a loyal person at the helm as CEO to her and our beloved club. If you running a business of your own would you have a manager that gives a Budget of £15m to rebuild staplewood and the costs will rise up to £30m or more? Would you have a man that gives gentleman
agreements to some players and perhaps you knowing nothing about such things? No I am thinking nobody would have such a person on the Joysticks! All the players they has left, was in the same position as Spider was. I am thinking the bord an RonKo had seen the potential of Morgan and that was the reason, he was not sold. Please apologise, my English is horrible as it is!
UP the saints till I die
Regarding KL and Cortese - did I not read at the time of his departure that she had tried very hard to keep him?
[quote][p][bold]saintthomas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rooflas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.[/p][/quote]When will the truth come out about all of cortèses past dealings? IMO he has a lot to answer to and would have dragged us back into relegation. Obviously we did rise up two divisions under his watch but was it done with any class? 3 managers, countless disagreements from cleaners to former players, court cases etc etc. What would we have needed most to return to premier league? Cortèse or the liebherrs? I know who my monies on and I'll be backing this board. As for spider, I would love him to stay and be happy playing for us, but if asking price is met he too will be gone.[/p][/quote]So in my opinion KL had sacked Cortese, while he was out of control in the financel department also in agreements with some Players. I am thinking she was heading for a loyal person at the helm as CEO to her and our beloved club. If you running a business of your own would you have a manager that gives a Budget of £15m to rebuild staplewood and the costs will rise up to £30m or more? Would you have a man that gives gentleman agreements to some players and perhaps you knowing nothing about such things? No I am thinking nobody would have such a person on the Joysticks! All the players they has left, was in the same position as Spider was. I am thinking the bord an RonKo had seen the potential of Morgan and that was the reason, he was not sold. Please apologise, my English is horrible as it is! UP the saints till I die[/p][/quote]Regarding KL and Cortese - did I not read at the time of his departure that she had tried very hard to keep him? spratt
  • Score: 7

8:44am Wed 20 Aug 14

TGodSFC says...

Spuds had a 17M bid rejected yeterday, Roll on September 1st.
Spuds had a 17M bid rejected yeterday, Roll on September 1st. TGodSFC
  • Score: 3

8:47am Wed 20 Aug 14

Chipmonk1 says...

Just a quick note Warrens, Pardew is on record as saying he had to convince Cortese to take JPT seriously because it would"be good for the fans" after all the turmoil. Cortese was only interested in promotion. This is fact and not opinion and demonstrates Cortese's single mindedness which was both a good and bad for the club. Like jls I was a commited NC fan. I am still thankful for what he did but question his judgement towards the end of his tenure and especially since. I am not sure how he could have convinced AL DL and LS to stay. IMHO I think these players heads were turned by voices in the England camp. Even if they had stayed one more year would we realistically qualified fir CL football? I don't think so. The exodus was alqays going to happen regardless at least we got good money for them. My only concern was letting Chambers go. Especially at that price.
Just a quick note Warrens, Pardew is on record as saying he had to convince Cortese to take JPT seriously because it would"be good for the fans" after all the turmoil. Cortese was only interested in promotion. This is fact and not opinion and demonstrates Cortese's single mindedness which was both a good and bad for the club. Like jls I was a commited NC fan. I am still thankful for what he did but question his judgement towards the end of his tenure and especially since. I am not sure how he could have convinced AL DL and LS to stay. IMHO I think these players heads were turned by voices in the England camp. Even if they had stayed one more year would we realistically qualified fir CL football? I don't think so. The exodus was alqays going to happen regardless at least we got good money for them. My only concern was letting Chambers go. Especially at that price. Chipmonk1
  • Score: 14

8:53am Wed 20 Aug 14

saintthomas says...

spratt wrote:
saintthomas wrote:
Rooflas wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.
When will the truth come out about all of cortèses past dealings? IMO he has a lot to answer to and would have dragged us back into relegation. Obviously we did rise up two divisions under his watch but was it done with any class? 3 managers, countless disagreements from cleaners to former players, court cases etc etc. What would we have needed most to return to premier league? Cortèse or the liebherrs? I know who my monies on and I'll be backing this board.
As for spider, I would love him to stay and be happy playing for us, but if asking price is met he too will be gone.
So in my opinion KL had sacked Cortese, while he was out of control in the financel department also in agreements with some Players. I am thinking she was heading for a loyal person at the helm as CEO to her and our beloved club. If you running a business of your own would you have a manager that gives a Budget of £15m to rebuild staplewood and the costs will rise up to £30m or more? Would you have a man that gives gentleman
agreements to some players and perhaps you knowing nothing about such things? No I am thinking nobody would have such a person on the Joysticks! All the players they has left, was in the same position as Spider was. I am thinking the bord an RonKo had seen the potential of Morgan and that was the reason, he was not sold. Please apologise, my English is horrible as it is!
UP the saints till I die
Regarding KL and Cortese - did I not read at the time of his departure that she had tried very hard to keep him?
Yes of corse I had it read too. You are right But as she did a scrutiny of all issues on SFC she had seen the whole picture. You think so?
[quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintthomas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rooflas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.[/p][/quote]When will the truth come out about all of cortèses past dealings? IMO he has a lot to answer to and would have dragged us back into relegation. Obviously we did rise up two divisions under his watch but was it done with any class? 3 managers, countless disagreements from cleaners to former players, court cases etc etc. What would we have needed most to return to premier league? Cortèse or the liebherrs? I know who my monies on and I'll be backing this board. As for spider, I would love him to stay and be happy playing for us, but if asking price is met he too will be gone.[/p][/quote]So in my opinion KL had sacked Cortese, while he was out of control in the financel department also in agreements with some Players. I am thinking she was heading for a loyal person at the helm as CEO to her and our beloved club. If you running a business of your own would you have a manager that gives a Budget of £15m to rebuild staplewood and the costs will rise up to £30m or more? Would you have a man that gives gentleman agreements to some players and perhaps you knowing nothing about such things? No I am thinking nobody would have such a person on the Joysticks! All the players they has left, was in the same position as Spider was. I am thinking the bord an RonKo had seen the potential of Morgan and that was the reason, he was not sold. Please apologise, my English is horrible as it is! UP the saints till I die[/p][/quote]Regarding KL and Cortese - did I not read at the time of his departure that she had tried very hard to keep him?[/p][/quote]Yes of corse I had it read too. You are right But as she did a scrutiny of all issues on SFC she had seen the whole picture. You think so? saintthomas
  • Score: 1

9:03am Wed 20 Aug 14

killared says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
£10m is derisory he is worth £20-25m at least in this new market that has risen in value since the increase in sky money which is probably why they didn't sell him.

Football needs a governing body that manages the finances and filters much more down to grass roots and the kids. The figure spent by the FA per annum is not much more than the Luke Shaw transfer which is disgusting. If Sky doubled the money again next year all that would happen is yet a further increase in transfer fees and wages for the same group of players so no more available for infrastructure improvements and so on. The government needs to realise football doesn't have the brains to manage itself.
You wrong it's true value is 13 up to 15 million it's like Shaw fee no way is worth 30 odd million or Lallana worth 25 million none of them have CL games in them they have 2 or 3 international cap and that's it ! Yes Morgan been really good for the last 2 years but Shaw and Lallana had only 1 good season in the EPL and suddenly they are worth 25 and 30 million. Don't get me wrong it's good for the club but not good for us because now if we want to buy any players any team would see that we have pot of gold ! For example Hull saw that with Shane long and we overpaid for the kid when he's true value is 6 up to 8 million. I support the team don't get me wrong but these fee for unproven players are ridiculous in my opinion.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: £10m is derisory he is worth £20-25m at least in this new market that has risen in value since the increase in sky money which is probably why they didn't sell him. Football needs a governing body that manages the finances and filters much more down to grass roots and the kids. The figure spent by the FA per annum is not much more than the Luke Shaw transfer which is disgusting. If Sky doubled the money again next year all that would happen is yet a further increase in transfer fees and wages for the same group of players so no more available for infrastructure improvements and so on. The government needs to realise football doesn't have the brains to manage itself.[/p][/quote]You wrong it's true value is 13 up to 15 million it's like Shaw fee no way is worth 30 odd million or Lallana worth 25 million none of them have CL games in them they have 2 or 3 international cap and that's it ! Yes Morgan been really good for the last 2 years but Shaw and Lallana had only 1 good season in the EPL and suddenly they are worth 25 and 30 million. Don't get me wrong it's good for the club but not good for us because now if we want to buy any players any team would see that we have pot of gold ! For example Hull saw that with Shane long and we overpaid for the kid when he's true value is 6 up to 8 million. I support the team don't get me wrong but these fee for unproven players are ridiculous in my opinion. killared
  • Score: 2

9:03am Wed 20 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

spratt wrote:
saintthomas wrote:
Rooflas wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.
When will the truth come out about all of cortèses past dealings? IMO he has a lot to answer to and would have dragged us back into relegation. Obviously we did rise up two divisions under his watch but was it done with any class? 3 managers, countless disagreements from cleaners to former players, court cases etc etc. What would we have needed most to return to premier league? Cortèse or the liebherrs? I know who my monies on and I'll be backing this board.
As for spider, I would love him to stay and be happy playing for us, but if asking price is met he too will be gone.
So in my opinion KL had sacked Cortese, while he was out of control in the financel department also in agreements with some Players. I am thinking she was heading for a loyal person at the helm as CEO to her and our beloved club. If you running a business of your own would you have a manager that gives a Budget of £15m to rebuild staplewood and the costs will rise up to £30m or more? Would you have a man that gives gentleman
agreements to some players and perhaps you knowing nothing about such things? No I am thinking nobody would have such a person on the Joysticks! All the players they has left, was in the same position as Spider was. I am thinking the bord an RonKo had seen the potential of Morgan and that was the reason, he was not sold. Please apologise, my English is horrible as it is!
UP the saints till I die
Regarding KL and Cortese - did I not read at the time of his departure that she had tried very hard to keep him?
Under her terms though, if he loved the club so much he would of worked within them, he loved himself pure and simple.
[quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintthomas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rooflas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.[/p][/quote]When will the truth come out about all of cortèses past dealings? IMO he has a lot to answer to and would have dragged us back into relegation. Obviously we did rise up two divisions under his watch but was it done with any class? 3 managers, countless disagreements from cleaners to former players, court cases etc etc. What would we have needed most to return to premier league? Cortèse or the liebherrs? I know who my monies on and I'll be backing this board. As for spider, I would love him to stay and be happy playing for us, but if asking price is met he too will be gone.[/p][/quote]So in my opinion KL had sacked Cortese, while he was out of control in the financel department also in agreements with some Players. I am thinking she was heading for a loyal person at the helm as CEO to her and our beloved club. If you running a business of your own would you have a manager that gives a Budget of £15m to rebuild staplewood and the costs will rise up to £30m or more? Would you have a man that gives gentleman agreements to some players and perhaps you knowing nothing about such things? No I am thinking nobody would have such a person on the Joysticks! All the players they has left, was in the same position as Spider was. I am thinking the bord an RonKo had seen the potential of Morgan and that was the reason, he was not sold. Please apologise, my English is horrible as it is! UP the saints till I die[/p][/quote]Regarding KL and Cortese - did I not read at the time of his departure that she had tried very hard to keep him?[/p][/quote]Under her terms though, if he loved the club so much he would of worked within them, he loved himself pure and simple. fascia123
  • Score: 7

9:04am Wed 20 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

murfmeister wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.
Money! Pure and simple. Spurs will double his wages. Saints have financial fair play restrictions and can't just double his money even if they wanted to. If another company offered to pay you double for the same job, would you stay? Really?
He has a long contract with us, whether he wants to double his wages is irrelevant. FFP is also irrelevant in this case because he's going to be on the same wages for the next three years. Unless we needed the money or the offer was ridiculous, and even then we shouldn't sell.
[quote][p][bold]murfmeister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.[/p][/quote]Money! Pure and simple. Spurs will double his wages. Saints have financial fair play restrictions and can't just double his money even if they wanted to. If another company offered to pay you double for the same job, would you stay? Really?[/p][/quote]He has a long contract with us, whether he wants to double his wages is irrelevant. FFP is also irrelevant in this case because he's going to be on the same wages for the next three years. Unless we needed the money or the offer was ridiculous, and even then we shouldn't sell. SaintJD
  • Score: 2

9:34am Wed 20 Aug 14

spratt says...

saintthomas wrote:
spratt wrote:
saintthomas wrote:
Rooflas wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.
When will the truth come out about all of cortèses past dealings? IMO he has a lot to answer to and would have dragged us back into relegation. Obviously we did rise up two divisions under his watch but was it done with any class? 3 managers, countless disagreements from cleaners to former players, court cases etc etc. What would we have needed most to return to premier league? Cortèse or the liebherrs? I know who my monies on and I'll be backing this board.
As for spider, I would love him to stay and be happy playing for us, but if asking price is met he too will be gone.
So in my opinion KL had sacked Cortese, while he was out of control in the financel department also in agreements with some Players. I am thinking she was heading for a loyal person at the helm as CEO to her and our beloved club. If you running a business of your own would you have a manager that gives a Budget of £15m to rebuild staplewood and the costs will rise up to £30m or more? Would you have a man that gives gentleman
agreements to some players and perhaps you knowing nothing about such things? No I am thinking nobody would have such a person on the Joysticks! All the players they has left, was in the same position as Spider was. I am thinking the bord an RonKo had seen the potential of Morgan and that was the reason, he was not sold. Please apologise, my English is horrible as it is!
UP the saints till I die
Regarding KL and Cortese - did I not read at the time of his departure that she had tried very hard to keep him?
Yes of corse I had it read too. You are right But as she did a scrutiny of all issues on SFC she had seen the whole picture. You think so?
Yes - she probably thought she could persuade him to stay - on HER terms
[quote][p][bold]saintthomas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintthomas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rooflas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.[/p][/quote]When will the truth come out about all of cortèses past dealings? IMO he has a lot to answer to and would have dragged us back into relegation. Obviously we did rise up two divisions under his watch but was it done with any class? 3 managers, countless disagreements from cleaners to former players, court cases etc etc. What would we have needed most to return to premier league? Cortèse or the liebherrs? I know who my monies on and I'll be backing this board. As for spider, I would love him to stay and be happy playing for us, but if asking price is met he too will be gone.[/p][/quote]So in my opinion KL had sacked Cortese, while he was out of control in the financel department also in agreements with some Players. I am thinking she was heading for a loyal person at the helm as CEO to her and our beloved club. If you running a business of your own would you have a manager that gives a Budget of £15m to rebuild staplewood and the costs will rise up to £30m or more? Would you have a man that gives gentleman agreements to some players and perhaps you knowing nothing about such things? No I am thinking nobody would have such a person on the Joysticks! All the players they has left, was in the same position as Spider was. I am thinking the bord an RonKo had seen the potential of Morgan and that was the reason, he was not sold. Please apologise, my English is horrible as it is! UP the saints till I die[/p][/quote]Regarding KL and Cortese - did I not read at the time of his departure that she had tried very hard to keep him?[/p][/quote]Yes of corse I had it read too. You are right But as she did a scrutiny of all issues on SFC she had seen the whole picture. You think so?[/p][/quote]Yes - she probably thought she could persuade him to stay - on HER terms spratt
  • Score: 1

9:37am Wed 20 Aug 14

Benali76 says...

It's great to have him in the team, he is a fantastic player and better than Spurs. If it was Arsenal he was itching to go to I might understand but Spurs?!...
As far as why Cortese promised him he could go, my bet is it was a smart business decision. He had all these players who were clearly good and would soon be interesting the big boys once they showed them what we already knew (by performing in the EPL). So he convinced them to sign Long deals with a promise we would agree to a future sale. They get more money immediately and the peace of mind that comes with a contract and we get a fat transfer fee. It makes sense. If Shaw hadn't signed we would of got peanuts. It completely explains the want aways but makes a nonsense of Corteses claims he would have kept them all.
It's great to have him in the team, he is a fantastic player and better than Spurs. If it was Arsenal he was itching to go to I might understand but Spurs?!... As far as why Cortese promised him he could go, my bet is it was a smart business decision. He had all these players who were clearly good and would soon be interesting the big boys once they showed them what we already knew (by performing in the EPL). So he convinced them to sign Long deals with a promise we would agree to a future sale. They get more money immediately and the peace of mind that comes with a contract and we get a fat transfer fee. It makes sense. If Shaw hadn't signed we would of got peanuts. It completely explains the want aways but makes a nonsense of Corteses claims he would have kept them all. Benali76
  • Score: 8

9:38am Wed 20 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being.
But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month?
Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.
Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being. But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month? Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats. costa gaz
  • Score: -2

9:44am Wed 20 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

costa gaz wrote:
Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being.
But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month?
Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.
Take a happy pill FFS
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being. But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month? Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.[/p][/quote]Take a happy pill FFS fascia123
  • Score: 5

9:46am Wed 20 Aug 14

saintforever says...

tottingham need to be told NO every time they make a bid - and just to annoy them i would return at the same time with a bid for townsend .
and NO we don't want an exchange thank you very much MP.
tottingham need to be told NO every time they make a bid - and just to annoy them i would return at the same time with a bid for townsend . and NO we don't want an exchange thank you very much MP. saintforever
  • Score: 5

9:46am Wed 20 Aug 14

Alicesdad says...

FFS Just listen to some of you !!

Cortese was the best thing that happened to this club at its lowest ever point. There is no possible argument against that fact.

He encouraged Marcus to buy the club in exchnage for running it. When Marcus died the new owner let things be for a while but then wanted to introduce some more controls. Cortese threw his toys out of the pram and left.

After Cortese left, his dream boy manager made a jump to a so called bigger club. Poch had wanted to hear that he would be given endless funds to build a Champions League team. This had also filtered through to the players.
When Cortese and his pet monkey left, a few good players, who had profited from the Clubs swelling profile, saw the pound signs and jumped ship.

We now have the new regime, made up of a mixture of different talents and skills but very capable. We have a new top grade manager. We have an awesome squad, just needing time to bed in. Money is being spent, but not from some bottomless pit.

So from a fans point of view whats to moan about.?

I dont think the Schneiderlin saga is over yet. We are half a month from the deadline. But Spurs may not be his destination in the end. I hope he stays of couirse, he is top quality and we will be an awesome team this year

Everyone assumes Poch will do well at Spurs. mmmmm take a look back in time .... I doubt he will last the full season.

Get real you lot. I liked Cortese but didnt like the domino fall that he started. But we are over that now and moving forward.

Happy Clapper ? Who gives a flying **** Im a fan and have a much more realistic view of things than some on here.

Rant over
FFS Just listen to some of you !! Cortese was the best thing that happened to this club at its lowest ever point. There is no possible argument against that fact. He encouraged Marcus to buy the club in exchnage for running it. When Marcus died the new owner let things be for a while but then wanted to introduce some more controls. Cortese threw his toys out of the pram and left. After Cortese left, his dream boy manager made a jump to a so called bigger club. Poch had wanted to hear that he would be given endless funds to build a Champions League team. This had also filtered through to the players. When Cortese and his pet monkey left, a few good players, who had profited from the Clubs swelling profile, saw the pound signs and jumped ship. We now have the new regime, made up of a mixture of different talents and skills but very capable. We have a new top grade manager. We have an awesome squad, just needing time to bed in. Money is being spent, but not from some bottomless pit. So from a fans point of view whats to moan about.? I dont think the Schneiderlin saga is over yet. We are half a month from the deadline. But Spurs may not be his destination in the end. I hope he stays of couirse, he is top quality and we will be an awesome team this year Everyone assumes Poch will do well at Spurs. mmmmm take a look back in time .... I doubt he will last the full season. Get real you lot. I liked Cortese but didnt like the domino fall that he started. But we are over that now and moving forward. Happy Clapper ? Who gives a flying **** Im a fan and have a much more realistic view of things than some on here. Rant over Alicesdad
  • Score: 21

9:51am Wed 20 Aug 14

Poole Tom says...

If Lowe had`nt built St Mary`s the chances are that Cortese would not have recommended to ML that he buy the club because we would`nt have had the infrastructure to support a Premiership club without massive investment. Nevertheless to this day some fans still take every opportunity to slag Lowe off. Now some fans are doing the same to Cortese and the players that have recently left, even though between them they brought us great pleasure and success over the last five years. Supporting your team is supposed to be fun, but I get the impression that some fans on here just want something to constantly moan about.
If Lowe had`nt built St Mary`s the chances are that Cortese would not have recommended to ML that he buy the club because we would`nt have had the infrastructure to support a Premiership club without massive investment. Nevertheless to this day some fans still take every opportunity to slag Lowe off. Now some fans are doing the same to Cortese and the players that have recently left, even though between them they brought us great pleasure and success over the last five years. Supporting your team is supposed to be fun, but I get the impression that some fans on here just want something to constantly moan about. Poole Tom
  • Score: 10

9:54am Wed 20 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

Poole Tom wrote:
If Lowe had`nt built St Mary`s the chances are that Cortese would not have recommended to ML that he buy the club because we would`nt have had the infrastructure to support a Premiership club without massive investment. Nevertheless to this day some fans still take every opportunity to slag Lowe off. Now some fans are doing the same to Cortese and the players that have recently left, even though between them they brought us great pleasure and success over the last five years. Supporting your team is supposed to be fun, but I get the impression that some fans on here just want something to constantly moan about.
"some fans on here just want something to constantly moan about" It probably keeps them happy.
[quote][p][bold]Poole Tom[/bold] wrote: If Lowe had`nt built St Mary`s the chances are that Cortese would not have recommended to ML that he buy the club because we would`nt have had the infrastructure to support a Premiership club without massive investment. Nevertheless to this day some fans still take every opportunity to slag Lowe off. Now some fans are doing the same to Cortese and the players that have recently left, even though between them they brought us great pleasure and success over the last five years. Supporting your team is supposed to be fun, but I get the impression that some fans on here just want something to constantly moan about.[/p][/quote]"some fans on here just want something to constantly moan about" It probably keeps them happy. Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

9:54am Wed 20 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Alicesdad wrote:
FFS Just listen to some of you !!

Cortese was the best thing that happened to this club at its lowest ever point. There is no possible argument against that fact.

He encouraged Marcus to buy the club in exchnage for running it. When Marcus died the new owner let things be for a while but then wanted to introduce some more controls. Cortese threw his toys out of the pram and left.

After Cortese left, his dream boy manager made a jump to a so called bigger club. Poch had wanted to hear that he would be given endless funds to build a Champions League team. This had also filtered through to the players.
When Cortese and his pet monkey left, a few good players, who had profited from the Clubs swelling profile, saw the pound signs and jumped ship.

We now have the new regime, made up of a mixture of different talents and skills but very capable. We have a new top grade manager. We have an awesome squad, just needing time to bed in. Money is being spent, but not from some bottomless pit.

So from a fans point of view whats to moan about.?

I dont think the Schneiderlin saga is over yet. We are half a month from the deadline. But Spurs may not be his destination in the end. I hope he stays of couirse, he is top quality and we will be an awesome team this year

Everyone assumes Poch will do well at Spurs. mmmmm take a look back in time .... I doubt he will last the full season.

Get real you lot. I liked Cortese but didnt like the domino fall that he started. But we are over that now and moving forward.

Happy Clapper ? Who gives a flying **** Im a fan and have a much more realistic view of things than some on here.

Rant over
Good stuff, but will have to agree to disagree on the NC stuff.

I think we have a good season ahead may not quite do as well as last year but won't be far away, I have confidence in the new set and RK the future is going to be good.
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: FFS Just listen to some of you !! Cortese was the best thing that happened to this club at its lowest ever point. There is no possible argument against that fact. He encouraged Marcus to buy the club in exchnage for running it. When Marcus died the new owner let things be for a while but then wanted to introduce some more controls. Cortese threw his toys out of the pram and left. After Cortese left, his dream boy manager made a jump to a so called bigger club. Poch had wanted to hear that he would be given endless funds to build a Champions League team. This had also filtered through to the players. When Cortese and his pet monkey left, a few good players, who had profited from the Clubs swelling profile, saw the pound signs and jumped ship. We now have the new regime, made up of a mixture of different talents and skills but very capable. We have a new top grade manager. We have an awesome squad, just needing time to bed in. Money is being spent, but not from some bottomless pit. So from a fans point of view whats to moan about.? I dont think the Schneiderlin saga is over yet. We are half a month from the deadline. But Spurs may not be his destination in the end. I hope he stays of couirse, he is top quality and we will be an awesome team this year Everyone assumes Poch will do well at Spurs. mmmmm take a look back in time .... I doubt he will last the full season. Get real you lot. I liked Cortese but didnt like the domino fall that he started. But we are over that now and moving forward. Happy Clapper ? Who gives a flying **** Im a fan and have a much more realistic view of things than some on here. Rant over[/p][/quote]Good stuff, but will have to agree to disagree on the NC stuff. I think we have a good season ahead may not quite do as well as last year but won't be far away, I have confidence in the new set and RK the future is going to be good. fascia123
  • Score: 0

10:02am Wed 20 Aug 14

simmo 2 says...

doesnt want to stay !! still cannot see him giving 100% every week , still think he will be gone on 1st sept ... we will see , hope i am wrong !!
doesnt want to stay !! still cannot see him giving 100% every week , still think he will be gone on 1st sept ... we will see , hope i am wrong !! simmo 2
  • Score: -7

10:04am Wed 20 Aug 14

saintthomas says...

costa gaz wrote:
Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being.
But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month?
Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.
I am a follower of this Forum since years ago and I for me I regard highly
your posts. So I comment not for a long time. I am thinking all those they was negativ about the board or against Morgan was beset by worries what was happen about our beloved SFC. Now the future looks brigther as it has at the beginning of july. Now get us behind the new Team and the club. With our outstanding academy they deserve this support. I'm beliefe and trust in the southampton way!
Up the Saints till i die!
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being. But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month? Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.[/p][/quote]I am a follower of this Forum since years ago and I for me I regard highly your posts. So I comment not for a long time. I am thinking all those they was negativ about the board or against Morgan was beset by worries what was happen about our beloved SFC. Now the future looks brigther as it has at the beginning of july. Now get us behind the new Team and the club. With our outstanding academy they deserve this support. I'm beliefe and trust in the southampton way! Up the Saints till i die! saintthomas
  • Score: 2

10:06am Wed 20 Aug 14

ShanoBrizzy says...

I think Spider would be crazy to leave Saints when they're on the cusp of embedding themselves in the top 8. Fair chance Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool & Arsenal will box the First 4, with Saints fighting Utd, Spurs & Everton for 5th to 8th.. I'm pretty happy with that and the club and all involved..
I think Spider would be crazy to leave Saints when they're on the cusp of embedding themselves in the top 8. Fair chance Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool & Arsenal will box the First 4, with Saints fighting Utd, Spurs & Everton for 5th to 8th.. I'm pretty happy with that and the club and all involved.. ShanoBrizzy
  • Score: 5

10:10am Wed 20 Aug 14

InsideOutCat says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
jls217 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.
Cortese always did what he thought was in the best interests of the club whilst the club had a n interest in him..
He told players they were worth x and would not let them go for y…
In using Lambert as an example you have kind of shot your own argument…a) he was going to a lesser club, b) He was getting 7/8million not 4 million c) LFC would not have got him and all that followed.

Look everything about NC is pure speculation we do not know, none of us…what we do Know is he engineered the safety of our club, he improved us 5 years on the spin, he one us JPT then back to back promotions and recruited ever more succesful managers….

Financially he took an original 14 million investment and adding in staplewood and poor signings (everyone has em) and turned us into a club worth 200-250 million which is a staggering ROI in any business, in football probably never been done!

He has gone and it is histrory but his PROVEN record is unarguable.
Cortese ALWAYS did what was best for Cortese - the info trickling out concerning his actions and lack of to suit his purposes after Markus died is noteworthy. Very happy Katharina saw through it and clipped his wings. Interesting to note how NC started acting after that event. If you are a died in the wool NC man (as I was to start with) I doubt you will want to see the allegations surrounding his devious plots. I was open minded as I know the average human is capable of almost anything to serve their needs - NC was extreme even in the pursuance of this it seems.
I would rather remember him for the good years he gave us, acknowledge he was eventually a wrong 'un and give thanks he is no longer here to continue with his power trip and move on to enjoy this new era. But Saint NC he most certainly was not.
You have an amazingly low opinion of Markus Liebherr's judgement who not only followed Cortese's advice to buy SFC but also insisted he ran it. He was also put in charge of the Liebherr Trust and was involved with the Mali group. Liebherr obviously saw something you didn't.
No denying NCs many qualities, and the fact that his business acumen convinced Markus to trust him implicitly. However his background was banking. Is it not possible that even Cortese's usually level head was turned by the romance of being " de facto" owner of a football club? From there it's only a few steps to believing your own publicity and descending into crazed dictatorship. He wouldn't be the first.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.[/p][/quote]Cortese always did what he thought was in the best interests of the club whilst the club had a n interest in him.. He told players they were worth x and would not let them go for y… In using Lambert as an example you have kind of shot your own argument…a) he was going to a lesser club, b) He was getting 7/8million not 4 million c) LFC would not have got him and all that followed. Look everything about NC is pure speculation we do not know, none of us…what we do Know is he engineered the safety of our club, he improved us 5 years on the spin, he one us JPT then back to back promotions and recruited ever more succesful managers…. Financially he took an original 14 million investment and adding in staplewood and poor signings (everyone has em) and turned us into a club worth 200-250 million which is a staggering ROI in any business, in football probably never been done! He has gone and it is histrory but his PROVEN record is unarguable.[/p][/quote]Cortese ALWAYS did what was best for Cortese - the info trickling out concerning his actions and lack of to suit his purposes after Markus died is noteworthy. Very happy Katharina saw through it and clipped his wings. Interesting to note how NC started acting after that event. If you are a died in the wool NC man (as I was to start with) I doubt you will want to see the allegations surrounding his devious plots. I was open minded as I know the average human is capable of almost anything to serve their needs - NC was extreme even in the pursuance of this it seems. I would rather remember him for the good years he gave us, acknowledge he was eventually a wrong 'un and give thanks he is no longer here to continue with his power trip and move on to enjoy this new era. But Saint NC he most certainly was not.[/p][/quote]You have an amazingly low opinion of Markus Liebherr's judgement who not only followed Cortese's advice to buy SFC but also insisted he ran it. He was also put in charge of the Liebherr Trust and was involved with the Mali group. Liebherr obviously saw something you didn't.[/p][/quote]No denying NCs many qualities, and the fact that his business acumen convinced Markus to trust him implicitly. However his background was banking. Is it not possible that even Cortese's usually level head was turned by the romance of being " de facto" owner of a football club? From there it's only a few steps to believing your own publicity and descending into crazed dictatorship. He wouldn't be the first. InsideOutCat
  • Score: 4

10:15am Wed 20 Aug 14

Poole Tom says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Poole Tom wrote:
If Lowe had`nt built St Mary`s the chances are that Cortese would not have recommended to ML that he buy the club because we would`nt have had the infrastructure to support a Premiership club without massive investment. Nevertheless to this day some fans still take every opportunity to slag Lowe off. Now some fans are doing the same to Cortese and the players that have recently left, even though between them they brought us great pleasure and success over the last five years. Supporting your team is supposed to be fun, but I get the impression that some fans on here just want something to constantly moan about.
"some fans on here just want something to constantly moan about" It probably keeps them happy.
I never thought of that!
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poole Tom[/bold] wrote: If Lowe had`nt built St Mary`s the chances are that Cortese would not have recommended to ML that he buy the club because we would`nt have had the infrastructure to support a Premiership club without massive investment. Nevertheless to this day some fans still take every opportunity to slag Lowe off. Now some fans are doing the same to Cortese and the players that have recently left, even though between them they brought us great pleasure and success over the last five years. Supporting your team is supposed to be fun, but I get the impression that some fans on here just want something to constantly moan about.[/p][/quote]"some fans on here just want something to constantly moan about" It probably keeps them happy.[/p][/quote]I never thought of that! Poole Tom
  • Score: 0

10:15am Wed 20 Aug 14

Confucious says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
£10m is derisory he is worth £20-25m at least in this new market that has risen in value since the increase in sky money which is probably why they didn't sell him.

Football needs a governing body that manages the finances and filters much more down to grass roots and the kids. The figure spent by the FA per annum is not much more than the Luke Shaw transfer which is disgusting. If Sky doubled the money again next year all that would happen is yet a further increase in transfer fees and wages for the same group of players so no more available for infrastructure improvements and so on. The government needs to realise football doesn't have the brains to manage itself.
Be careful what you wish for though Seed. Remember we could get a Labour government elected and they might decide to bring in a new single tier Comprehensive Co-Op League - redistributing points and goals from the winners to the losers so everyone comes equal first (or equal bottom) every season.

The Minister for Football will be called Stan, Les or Norm and the ninnie pinko piddler on merit will purvey his egalitarian envy-coddling collectivist monkey doodle and baked wind to ensure that mediocrity, as displayed at Poopey, is shared by all.

Not that I have any firm views on politics in general you understand.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: £10m is derisory he is worth £20-25m at least in this new market that has risen in value since the increase in sky money which is probably why they didn't sell him. Football needs a governing body that manages the finances and filters much more down to grass roots and the kids. The figure spent by the FA per annum is not much more than the Luke Shaw transfer which is disgusting. If Sky doubled the money again next year all that would happen is yet a further increase in transfer fees and wages for the same group of players so no more available for infrastructure improvements and so on. The government needs to realise football doesn't have the brains to manage itself.[/p][/quote]Be careful what you wish for though Seed. Remember we could get a Labour government elected and they might decide to bring in a new single tier Comprehensive Co-Op League - redistributing points and goals from the winners to the losers so everyone comes equal first (or equal bottom) every season. The Minister for Football will be called Stan, Les or Norm and the ninnie pinko piddler on merit will purvey his egalitarian envy-coddling collectivist monkey doodle and baked wind to ensure that mediocrity, as displayed at Poopey, is shared by all. Not that I have any firm views on politics in general you understand. Confucious
  • Score: 4

10:15am Wed 20 Aug 14

Poole Tom says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Poole Tom wrote:
If Lowe had`nt built St Mary`s the chances are that Cortese would not have recommended to ML that he buy the club because we would`nt have had the infrastructure to support a Premiership club without massive investment. Nevertheless to this day some fans still take every opportunity to slag Lowe off. Now some fans are doing the same to Cortese and the players that have recently left, even though between them they brought us great pleasure and success over the last five years. Supporting your team is supposed to be fun, but I get the impression that some fans on here just want something to constantly moan about.
"some fans on here just want something to constantly moan about" It probably keeps them happy.
I never thought of that!
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poole Tom[/bold] wrote: If Lowe had`nt built St Mary`s the chances are that Cortese would not have recommended to ML that he buy the club because we would`nt have had the infrastructure to support a Premiership club without massive investment. Nevertheless to this day some fans still take every opportunity to slag Lowe off. Now some fans are doing the same to Cortese and the players that have recently left, even though between them they brought us great pleasure and success over the last five years. Supporting your team is supposed to be fun, but I get the impression that some fans on here just want something to constantly moan about.[/p][/quote]"some fans on here just want something to constantly moan about" It probably keeps them happy.[/p][/quote]I never thought of that! Poole Tom
  • Score: 0

10:19am Wed 20 Aug 14

notaclue says...

I don't buy all this Champ League b.s. it's simple, it's obvious, Saints will not finish in the top three in the BPL unless we stumble upon over £100m NET a season to spend on players.
What we can however offer players as a substitute is a chance for a UEFA Cup place and big wages.
To pay big wages the club needs to earn big money, to earn big money the club need to do better commercial deals just as they said when the new board took over.
So why on earth do we earn less from our shirts than any other team in the BPL? We earn less than all the newly promoted sides and possibly some teams in the Championship!!
I understand that things were left late and arguments with adidas etc but we have probably lost out on at least £10m to £20m pounds this year and that money could have been put to good use on player wages, reduced ticket prices or buying more players.
I don't buy all this Champ League b.s. it's simple, it's obvious, Saints will not finish in the top three in the BPL unless we stumble upon over £100m NET a season to spend on players. What we can however offer players as a substitute is a chance for a UEFA Cup place and big wages. To pay big wages the club needs to earn big money, to earn big money the club need to do better commercial deals just as they said when the new board took over. So why on earth do we earn less from our shirts than any other team in the BPL? We earn less than all the newly promoted sides and possibly some teams in the Championship!! I understand that things were left late and arguments with adidas etc but we have probably lost out on at least £10m to £20m pounds this year and that money could have been put to good use on player wages, reduced ticket prices or buying more players. notaclue
  • Score: 0

10:22am Wed 20 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being.
But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month?
Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.
Take a happy pill FFS
And what was your login 6 months ago fascia123?
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being. But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month? Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.[/p][/quote]Take a happy pill FFS[/p][/quote]And what was your login 6 months ago fascia123? costa gaz
  • Score: -4

10:29am Wed 20 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Shareholder wrote:
Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.
So it was wrong for Cortese to let players go,but not for Reed and Krueger then...hmmm?
[quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.[/p][/quote]So it was wrong for Cortese to let players go,but not for Reed and Krueger then...hmmm? Positively4thStreet
  • Score: -4

10:33am Wed 20 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.
So it was wrong for Cortese to let players go,but not for Reed and Krueger then...hmmm?
And before you say anything..remember that Mr Krueger also said that players wouldn't be sold.There's so many "forked tongues" around here,its time someone called for the Lone Ranger!
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.[/p][/quote]So it was wrong for Cortese to let players go,but not for Reed and Krueger then...hmmm?[/p][/quote]And before you say anything..remember that Mr Krueger also said that players wouldn't be sold.There's so many "forked tongues" around here,its time someone called for the Lone Ranger! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: -1

10:55am Wed 20 Aug 14

Les Miserables says...

Just to put one fallacy to bed - the story regularly bandied around about how none of the players would have left if NC was still here.
The Luke Shaw deal (to Man U) was agreed in principal before last Christmas, ditto Liarlanas exit to Liverhampton.
Was going to keep schtum rather than jeapordise employment but I am fed up with reading all the BS and bile blaming the current board. End of!
Just to put one fallacy to bed - the story regularly bandied around about how none of the players would have left if NC was still here. The Luke Shaw deal (to Man U) was agreed in principal before last Christmas, ditto Liarlanas exit to Liverhampton. Was going to keep schtum rather than jeapordise employment but I am fed up with reading all the BS and bile blaming the current board. End of! Les Miserables
  • Score: 9

10:58am Wed 20 Aug 14

miltonnroad76 says...

murfmeister wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.
Money! Pure and simple. Spurs will double his wages. Saints have financial fair play restrictions and can't just double his money even if they wanted to. If another company offered to pay you double for the same job, would you stay? Really?
I just got offered another bar managers job for 50% raise ..guess what i turned it down coz im happy where i am. True story! come on you red and white stripes!!!
[quote][p][bold]murfmeister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.[/p][/quote]Money! Pure and simple. Spurs will double his wages. Saints have financial fair play restrictions and can't just double his money even if they wanted to. If another company offered to pay you double for the same job, would you stay? Really?[/p][/quote]I just got offered another bar managers job for 50% raise ..guess what i turned it down coz im happy where i am. True story! come on you red and white stripes!!! miltonnroad76
  • Score: 3

11:02am Wed 20 Aug 14

miltonnroad76 says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.
So it was wrong for Cortese to let players go,but not for Reed and Krueger then...hmmm?
And before you say anything..remember that Mr Krueger also said that players wouldn't be sold.There's so many "forked tongues" around here,its time someone called for the Lone Ranger!
I belive he said we neednt sell players and any deals would be in the interest of Saints..well they now have shed loads of money replaced the deserters with possibly better players and are in a much better position than they were last year..and we got Koeman who will be the envy of the prem league...Ron had said hes here for the long term and the Dutch are honest loyal respectable people unlike argies and iti bankers
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.[/p][/quote]So it was wrong for Cortese to let players go,but not for Reed and Krueger then...hmmm?[/p][/quote]And before you say anything..remember that Mr Krueger also said that players wouldn't be sold.There's so many "forked tongues" around here,its time someone called for the Lone Ranger![/p][/quote]I belive he said we neednt sell players and any deals would be in the interest of Saints..well they now have shed loads of money replaced the deserters with possibly better players and are in a much better position than they were last year..and we got Koeman who will be the envy of the prem league...Ron had said hes here for the long term and the Dutch are honest loyal respectable people unlike argies and iti bankers miltonnroad76
  • Score: 7

11:05am Wed 20 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

Les Miserables wrote:
Just to put one fallacy to bed - the story regularly bandied around about how none of the players would have left if NC was still here.
The Luke Shaw deal (to Man U) was agreed in principal before last Christmas, ditto Liarlanas exit to Liverhampton.
Was going to keep schtum rather than jeapordise employment but I am fed up with reading all the BS and bile blaming the current board. End of!
And what was your old login?
[quote][p][bold]Les Miserables[/bold] wrote: Just to put one fallacy to bed - the story regularly bandied around about how none of the players would have left if NC was still here. The Luke Shaw deal (to Man U) was agreed in principal before last Christmas, ditto Liarlanas exit to Liverhampton. Was going to keep schtum rather than jeapordise employment but I am fed up with reading all the BS and bile blaming the current board. End of![/p][/quote]And what was your old login? costa gaz
  • Score: -3

11:13am Wed 20 Aug 14

miltonnroad76 says...

ShanoBrizzy wrote:
I think Spider would be crazy to leave Saints when they're on the cusp of embedding themselves in the top 8. Fair chance Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool & Arsenal will box the First 4, with Saints fighting Utd, Spurs & Everton for 5th to 8th.. I'm pretty happy with that and the club and all involved..
Well ....man c chelsea and arsenal top 3.....cant see much difference between the rest ..depends if Liverhampton new players can replace suarez whos goals assists dives handballs etc got them there last year and man utd Van Gaal will have to work wonders to get that shower in top 4 unless he signs a bunch of players soon.....it is possible last seasons stats showed when we were full strength we didnt lose and were top 4 ....the weakness on the bench costs us plus Potty Chino didnt have much left in the tatic locker if things went wrong...Koeman showed his worth sunday totally changed the game got saints playing like champions in 2nd half...and options on the bench that can win games..methinks he hasnt finished signing yet....talk of this uruguayan coming ..another midfield player but another option to change games.
[quote][p][bold]ShanoBrizzy[/bold] wrote: I think Spider would be crazy to leave Saints when they're on the cusp of embedding themselves in the top 8. Fair chance Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool & Arsenal will box the First 4, with Saints fighting Utd, Spurs & Everton for 5th to 8th.. I'm pretty happy with that and the club and all involved..[/p][/quote]Well ....man c chelsea and arsenal top 3.....cant see much difference between the rest ..depends if Liverhampton new players can replace suarez whos goals assists dives handballs etc got them there last year and man utd Van Gaal will have to work wonders to get that shower in top 4 unless he signs a bunch of players soon.....it is possible last seasons stats showed when we were full strength we didnt lose and were top 4 ....the weakness on the bench costs us plus Potty Chino didnt have much left in the tatic locker if things went wrong...Koeman showed his worth sunday totally changed the game got saints playing like champions in 2nd half...and options on the bench that can win games..methinks he hasnt finished signing yet....talk of this uruguayan coming ..another midfield player but another option to change games. miltonnroad76
  • Score: 4

12:45pm Wed 20 Aug 14

mack chinnon says...

Alicesdad wrote:
FFS Just listen to some of you !!

Cortese was the best thing that happened to this club at its lowest ever point. There is no possible argument against that fact.

He encouraged Marcus to buy the club in exchnage for running it. When Marcus died the new owner let things be for a while but then wanted to introduce some more controls. Cortese threw his toys out of the pram and left.

After Cortese left, his dream boy manager made a jump to a so called bigger club. Poch had wanted to hear that he would be given endless funds to build a Champions League team. This had also filtered through to the players.
When Cortese and his pet monkey left, a few good players, who had profited from the Clubs swelling profile, saw the pound signs and jumped ship.

We now have the new regime, made up of a mixture of different talents and skills but very capable. We have a new top grade manager. We have an awesome squad, just needing time to bed in. Money is being spent, but not from some bottomless pit.

So from a fans point of view whats to moan about.?

I dont think the Schneiderlin saga is over yet. We are half a month from the deadline. But Spurs may not be his destination in the end. I hope he stays of couirse, he is top quality and we will be an awesome team this year

Everyone assumes Poch will do well at Spurs. mmmmm take a look back in time .... I doubt he will last the full season.

Get real you lot. I liked Cortese but didnt like the domino fall that he started. But we are over that now and moving forward.

Happy Clapper ? Who gives a flying **** Im a fan and have a much more realistic view of things than some on here.

Rant over
Have you seen Pinnochio on Sky this morning bigging up the Eufa cup. Your nose is getting longer Morris
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: FFS Just listen to some of you !! Cortese was the best thing that happened to this club at its lowest ever point. There is no possible argument against that fact. He encouraged Marcus to buy the club in exchnage for running it. When Marcus died the new owner let things be for a while but then wanted to introduce some more controls. Cortese threw his toys out of the pram and left. After Cortese left, his dream boy manager made a jump to a so called bigger club. Poch had wanted to hear that he would be given endless funds to build a Champions League team. This had also filtered through to the players. When Cortese and his pet monkey left, a few good players, who had profited from the Clubs swelling profile, saw the pound signs and jumped ship. We now have the new regime, made up of a mixture of different talents and skills but very capable. We have a new top grade manager. We have an awesome squad, just needing time to bed in. Money is being spent, but not from some bottomless pit. So from a fans point of view whats to moan about.? I dont think the Schneiderlin saga is over yet. We are half a month from the deadline. But Spurs may not be his destination in the end. I hope he stays of couirse, he is top quality and we will be an awesome team this year Everyone assumes Poch will do well at Spurs. mmmmm take a look back in time .... I doubt he will last the full season. Get real you lot. I liked Cortese but didnt like the domino fall that he started. But we are over that now and moving forward. Happy Clapper ? Who gives a flying **** Im a fan and have a much more realistic view of things than some on here. Rant over[/p][/quote]Have you seen Pinnochio on Sky this morning bigging up the Eufa cup. Your nose is getting longer Morris mack chinnon
  • Score: 1

12:49pm Wed 20 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

notaclue wrote:
I don't buy all this Champ League b.s. it's simple, it's obvious, Saints will not finish in the top three in the BPL unless we stumble upon over £100m NET a season to spend on players.
What we can however offer players as a substitute is a chance for a UEFA Cup place and big wages.
To pay big wages the club needs to earn big money, to earn big money the club need to do better commercial deals just as they said when the new board took over.
So why on earth do we earn less from our shirts than any other team in the BPL? We earn less than all the newly promoted sides and possibly some teams in the Championship!!
I understand that things were left late and arguments with adidas etc but we have probably lost out on at least £10m to £20m pounds this year and that money could have been put to good use on player wages, reduced ticket prices or buying more players.
What is the argument with Adidas about, who had the row?
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't buy all this Champ League b.s. it's simple, it's obvious, Saints will not finish in the top three in the BPL unless we stumble upon over £100m NET a season to spend on players. What we can however offer players as a substitute is a chance for a UEFA Cup place and big wages. To pay big wages the club needs to earn big money, to earn big money the club need to do better commercial deals just as they said when the new board took over. So why on earth do we earn less from our shirts than any other team in the BPL? We earn less than all the newly promoted sides and possibly some teams in the Championship!! I understand that things were left late and arguments with adidas etc but we have probably lost out on at least £10m to £20m pounds this year and that money could have been put to good use on player wages, reduced ticket prices or buying more players.[/p][/quote]What is the argument with Adidas about, who had the row? fascia123
  • Score: 0

12:53pm Wed 20 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being.
But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month?
Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.
Take a happy pill FFS
And what was your login 6 months ago fascia123?
The same as it was three years ago when I joined, I have not participated for the last couple of years because of idiots like you that don't come on here to debate football issues, they just come on to argue, I read your stuff sometimes and think you spend more time arguing with yourself, I don't like to resort to rudeness but you just pis? Me off.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being. But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month? Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.[/p][/quote]Take a happy pill FFS[/p][/quote]And what was your login 6 months ago fascia123?[/p][/quote]The same as it was three years ago when I joined, I have not participated for the last couple of years because of idiots like you that don't come on here to debate football issues, they just come on to argue, I read your stuff sometimes and think you spend more time arguing with yourself, I don't like to resort to rudeness but you just pis? Me off. fascia123
  • Score: 5

12:56pm Wed 20 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Les Miserables wrote:
Just to put one fallacy to bed - the story regularly bandied around about how none of the players would have left if NC was still here.
The Luke Shaw deal (to Man U) was agreed in principal before last Christmas, ditto Liarlanas exit to Liverhampton.
Was going to keep schtum rather than jeapordise employment but I am fed up with reading all the BS and bile blaming the current board. End of!
Wow, if this is correct that may go some way to shutting a few up, it may not though.
[quote][p][bold]Les Miserables[/bold] wrote: Just to put one fallacy to bed - the story regularly bandied around about how none of the players would have left if NC was still here. The Luke Shaw deal (to Man U) was agreed in principal before last Christmas, ditto Liarlanas exit to Liverhampton. Was going to keep schtum rather than jeapordise employment but I am fed up with reading all the BS and bile blaming the current board. End of![/p][/quote]Wow, if this is correct that may go some way to shutting a few up, it may not though. fascia123
  • Score: 0

12:59pm Wed 20 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

miltonnroad76 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.
So it was wrong for Cortese to let players go,but not for Reed and Krueger then...hmmm?
And before you say anything..remember that Mr Krueger also said that players wouldn't be sold.There's so many "forked tongues" around here,its time someone called for the Lone Ranger!
I belive he said we neednt sell players and any deals would be in the interest of Saints..well they now have shed loads of money replaced the deserters with possibly better players and are in a much better position than they were last year..and we got Koeman who will be the envy of the prem league...Ron had said hes here for the long term and the Dutch are honest loyal respectable people unlike argies and iti bankers
I like it
[quote][p][bold]miltonnroad76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.[/p][/quote]So it was wrong for Cortese to let players go,but not for Reed and Krueger then...hmmm?[/p][/quote]And before you say anything..remember that Mr Krueger also said that players wouldn't be sold.There's so many "forked tongues" around here,its time someone called for the Lone Ranger![/p][/quote]I belive he said we neednt sell players and any deals would be in the interest of Saints..well they now have shed loads of money replaced the deserters with possibly better players and are in a much better position than they were last year..and we got Koeman who will be the envy of the prem league...Ron had said hes here for the long term and the Dutch are honest loyal respectable people unlike argies and iti bankers[/p][/quote]I like it fascia123
  • Score: 3

12:59pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Chipmonk1 says...

saintthomas wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being.
But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month?
Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.
I am a follower of this Forum since years ago and I for me I regard highly
your posts. So I comment not for a long time. I am thinking all those they was negativ about the board or against Morgan was beset by worries what was happen about our beloved SFC. Now the future looks brigther as it has at the beginning of july. Now get us behind the new Team and the club. With our outstanding academy they deserve this support. I'm beliefe and trust in the southampton way!
Up the Saints till i die!
Thomas I think you are confusing Costa Gaz with Costa Baz. Baz is more half glass full and Gaz is more in "need of a good root" as they say here in Oz. Oh and b4 U ask Gaz login always been the same.
[quote][p][bold]saintthomas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being. But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month? Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.[/p][/quote]I am a follower of this Forum since years ago and I for me I regard highly your posts. So I comment not for a long time. I am thinking all those they was negativ about the board or against Morgan was beset by worries what was happen about our beloved SFC. Now the future looks brigther as it has at the beginning of july. Now get us behind the new Team and the club. With our outstanding academy they deserve this support. I'm beliefe and trust in the southampton way! Up the Saints till i die![/p][/quote]Thomas I think you are confusing Costa Gaz with Costa Baz. Baz is more half glass full and Gaz is more in "need of a good root" as they say here in Oz. Oh and b4 U ask Gaz login always been the same. Chipmonk1
  • Score: 6

1:02pm Wed 20 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Chipmonk1 wrote:
saintthomas wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being.
But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month?
Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.
I am a follower of this Forum since years ago and I for me I regard highly
your posts. So I comment not for a long time. I am thinking all those they was negativ about the board or against Morgan was beset by worries what was happen about our beloved SFC. Now the future looks brigther as it has at the beginning of july. Now get us behind the new Team and the club. With our outstanding academy they deserve this support. I'm beliefe and trust in the southampton way!
Up the Saints till i die!
Thomas I think you are confusing Costa Gaz with Costa Baz. Baz is more half glass full and Gaz is more in "need of a good root" as they say here in Oz. Oh and b4 U ask Gaz login always been the same.
:-)
[quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintthomas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being. But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month? Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.[/p][/quote]I am a follower of this Forum since years ago and I for me I regard highly your posts. So I comment not for a long time. I am thinking all those they was negativ about the board or against Morgan was beset by worries what was happen about our beloved SFC. Now the future looks brigther as it has at the beginning of july. Now get us behind the new Team and the club. With our outstanding academy they deserve this support. I'm beliefe and trust in the southampton way! Up the Saints till i die![/p][/quote]Thomas I think you are confusing Costa Gaz with Costa Baz. Baz is more half glass full and Gaz is more in "need of a good root" as they say here in Oz. Oh and b4 U ask Gaz login always been the same.[/p][/quote]:-) fascia123
  • Score: 4

1:20pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

miltonnroad76 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.
So it was wrong for Cortese to let players go,but not for Reed and Krueger then...hmmm?
And before you say anything..remember that Mr Krueger also said that players wouldn't be sold.There's so many "forked tongues" around here,its time someone called for the Lone Ranger!
I belive he said we neednt sell players and any deals would be in the interest of Saints..well they now have shed loads of money replaced the deserters with possibly better players and are in a much better position than they were last year..and we got Koeman who will be the envy of the prem league...Ron had said hes here for the long term and the Dutch are honest loyal respectable people unlike argies and iti bankers
I'm not criticising what's happening at the moment Milton,I think it is slowly starting to emerge as another Southampton triumph,and I'm very much behind it.
What is peeing me of at the moment,is all the hypocritical whingers,sticking their knives into Cortese (but only with the benefit of hindsight),who will never know whether or not he would have taken the club down a path of destruction(highly unlikely given his superb business acumen),but were quite happy to jump onto his European ride,when it was on track,and not far from reaching the promised land.
[quote][p][bold]miltonnroad76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.[/p][/quote]So it was wrong for Cortese to let players go,but not for Reed and Krueger then...hmmm?[/p][/quote]And before you say anything..remember that Mr Krueger also said that players wouldn't be sold.There's so many "forked tongues" around here,its time someone called for the Lone Ranger![/p][/quote]I belive he said we neednt sell players and any deals would be in the interest of Saints..well they now have shed loads of money replaced the deserters with possibly better players and are in a much better position than they were last year..and we got Koeman who will be the envy of the prem league...Ron had said hes here for the long term and the Dutch are honest loyal respectable people unlike argies and iti bankers[/p][/quote]I'm not criticising what's happening at the moment Milton,I think it is slowly starting to emerge as another Southampton triumph,and I'm very much behind it. What is peeing me of at the moment,is all the hypocritical whingers,sticking their knives into Cortese (but only with the benefit of hindsight),who will never know whether or not he would have taken the club down a path of destruction(highly unlikely given his superb business acumen),but were quite happy to jump onto his European ride,when it was on track,and not far from reaching the promised land. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

1:34pm Wed 20 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
miltonnroad76 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.
So it was wrong for Cortese to let players go,but not for Reed and Krueger then...hmmm?
And before you say anything..remember that Mr Krueger also said that players wouldn't be sold.There's so many "forked tongues" around here,its time someone called for the Lone Ranger!
I belive he said we neednt sell players and any deals would be in the interest of Saints..well they now have shed loads of money replaced the deserters with possibly better players and are in a much better position than they were last year..and we got Koeman who will be the envy of the prem league...Ron had said hes here for the long term and the Dutch are honest loyal respectable people unlike argies and iti bankers
I'm not criticising what's happening at the moment Milton,I think it is slowly starting to emerge as another Southampton triumph,and I'm very much behind it.
What is peeing me of at the moment,is all the hypocritical whingers,sticking their knives into Cortese (but only with the benefit of hindsight),who will never know whether or not he would have taken the club down a path of destruction(highly unlikely given his superb business acumen),but were quite happy to jump onto his European ride,when it was on track,and not far from reaching the promised land.
I hope I would not be one of you hypocritical whingers positively, my stance on NC has been firm since day one, I didn't like him, didn't trust him and didn't think he did a remarkable job.

I could put chapter and verse down but would be accused of going over old ground and I do feel with all the positives now happening even for the likes of me it is time to let it go, apart from the odd idiot I think even the guys who have criticised the new regime have done so out of genuine concern for what has been going on.

I will try my best to leave the theories alone going forward and now let's all get behind supporting our team through what looks like very promising times indeed.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonnroad76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.[/p][/quote]So it was wrong for Cortese to let players go,but not for Reed and Krueger then...hmmm?[/p][/quote]And before you say anything..remember that Mr Krueger also said that players wouldn't be sold.There's so many "forked tongues" around here,its time someone called for the Lone Ranger![/p][/quote]I belive he said we neednt sell players and any deals would be in the interest of Saints..well they now have shed loads of money replaced the deserters with possibly better players and are in a much better position than they were last year..and we got Koeman who will be the envy of the prem league...Ron had said hes here for the long term and the Dutch are honest loyal respectable people unlike argies and iti bankers[/p][/quote]I'm not criticising what's happening at the moment Milton,I think it is slowly starting to emerge as another Southampton triumph,and I'm very much behind it. What is peeing me of at the moment,is all the hypocritical whingers,sticking their knives into Cortese (but only with the benefit of hindsight),who will never know whether or not he would have taken the club down a path of destruction(highly unlikely given his superb business acumen),but were quite happy to jump onto his European ride,when it was on track,and not far from reaching the promised land.[/p][/quote]I hope I would not be one of you hypocritical whingers positively, my stance on NC has been firm since day one, I didn't like him, didn't trust him and didn't think he did a remarkable job. I could put chapter and verse down but would be accused of going over old ground and I do feel with all the positives now happening even for the likes of me it is time to let it go, apart from the odd idiot I think even the guys who have criticised the new regime have done so out of genuine concern for what has been going on. I will try my best to leave the theories alone going forward and now let's all get behind supporting our team through what looks like very promising times indeed. fascia123
  • Score: 3

1:43pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

fascia123 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
miltonnroad76 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.
So it was wrong for Cortese to let players go,but not for Reed and Krueger then...hmmm?
And before you say anything..remember that Mr Krueger also said that players wouldn't be sold.There's so many "forked tongues" around here,its time someone called for the Lone Ranger!
I belive he said we neednt sell players and any deals would be in the interest of Saints..well they now have shed loads of money replaced the deserters with possibly better players and are in a much better position than they were last year..and we got Koeman who will be the envy of the prem league...Ron had said hes here for the long term and the Dutch are honest loyal respectable people unlike argies and iti bankers
I'm not criticising what's happening at the moment Milton,I think it is slowly starting to emerge as another Southampton triumph,and I'm very much behind it.
What is peeing me of at the moment,is all the hypocritical whingers,sticking their knives into Cortese (but only with the benefit of hindsight),who will never know whether or not he would have taken the club down a path of destruction(highly unlikely given his superb business acumen),but were quite happy to jump onto his European ride,when it was on track,and not far from reaching the promised land.
I hope I would not be one of you hypocritical whingers positively, my stance on NC has been firm since day one, I didn't like him, didn't trust him and didn't think he did a remarkable job.

I could put chapter and verse down but would be accused of going over old ground and I do feel with all the positives now happening even for the likes of me it is time to let it go, apart from the odd idiot I think even the guys who have criticised the new regime have done so out of genuine concern for what has been going on.

I will try my best to leave the theories alone going forward and now let's all get behind supporting our team through what looks like very promising times indeed.
That's fair comment fascia,I'm not encapsulating everyone in my rant.
I've said my piece,everyone knows my stance on the matter,so I will say no more on it.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonnroad76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.[/p][/quote]So it was wrong for Cortese to let players go,but not for Reed and Krueger then...hmmm?[/p][/quote]And before you say anything..remember that Mr Krueger also said that players wouldn't be sold.There's so many "forked tongues" around here,its time someone called for the Lone Ranger![/p][/quote]I belive he said we neednt sell players and any deals would be in the interest of Saints..well they now have shed loads of money replaced the deserters with possibly better players and are in a much better position than they were last year..and we got Koeman who will be the envy of the prem league...Ron had said hes here for the long term and the Dutch are honest loyal respectable people unlike argies and iti bankers[/p][/quote]I'm not criticising what's happening at the moment Milton,I think it is slowly starting to emerge as another Southampton triumph,and I'm very much behind it. What is peeing me of at the moment,is all the hypocritical whingers,sticking their knives into Cortese (but only with the benefit of hindsight),who will never know whether or not he would have taken the club down a path of destruction(highly unlikely given his superb business acumen),but were quite happy to jump onto his European ride,when it was on track,and not far from reaching the promised land.[/p][/quote]I hope I would not be one of you hypocritical whingers positively, my stance on NC has been firm since day one, I didn't like him, didn't trust him and didn't think he did a remarkable job. I could put chapter and verse down but would be accused of going over old ground and I do feel with all the positives now happening even for the likes of me it is time to let it go, apart from the odd idiot I think even the guys who have criticised the new regime have done so out of genuine concern for what has been going on. I will try my best to leave the theories alone going forward and now let's all get behind supporting our team through what looks like very promising times indeed.[/p][/quote]That's fair comment fascia,I'm not encapsulating everyone in my rant. I've said my piece,everyone knows my stance on the matter,so I will say no more on it. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

1:47pm Wed 20 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
miltonnroad76 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.
So it was wrong for Cortese to let players go,but not for Reed and Krueger then...hmmm?
And before you say anything..remember that Mr Krueger also said that players wouldn't be sold.There's so many "forked tongues" around here,its time someone called for the Lone Ranger!
I belive he said we neednt sell players and any deals would be in the interest of Saints..well they now have shed loads of money replaced the deserters with possibly better players and are in a much better position than they were last year..and we got Koeman who will be the envy of the prem league...Ron had said hes here for the long term and the Dutch are honest loyal respectable people unlike argies and iti bankers
I'm not criticising what's happening at the moment Milton,I think it is slowly starting to emerge as another Southampton triumph,and I'm very much behind it.
What is peeing me of at the moment,is all the hypocritical whingers,sticking their knives into Cortese (but only with the benefit of hindsight),who will never know whether or not he would have taken the club down a path of destruction(highly unlikely given his superb business acumen),but were quite happy to jump onto his European ride,when it was on track,and not far from reaching the promised land.
I hope I would not be one of you hypocritical whingers positively, my stance on NC has been firm since day one, I didn't like him, didn't trust him and didn't think he did a remarkable job.

I could put chapter and verse down but would be accused of going over old ground and I do feel with all the positives now happening even for the likes of me it is time to let it go, apart from the odd idiot I think even the guys who have criticised the new regime have done so out of genuine concern for what has been going on.

I will try my best to leave the theories alone going forward and now let's all get behind supporting our team through what looks like very promising times indeed.
That's fair comment fascia,I'm not encapsulating everyone in my rant.
I've said my piece,everyone knows my stance on the matter,so I will say no more on it.
That's cool, if you see me going over old ground or dragging the theories out again feel free to shoot me.

I went to the Leverkusen game and enjoyed it but I can't wait for the West Brom game, should be a good game.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonnroad76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.[/p][/quote]So it was wrong for Cortese to let players go,but not for Reed and Krueger then...hmmm?[/p][/quote]And before you say anything..remember that Mr Krueger also said that players wouldn't be sold.There's so many "forked tongues" around here,its time someone called for the Lone Ranger![/p][/quote]I belive he said we neednt sell players and any deals would be in the interest of Saints..well they now have shed loads of money replaced the deserters with possibly better players and are in a much better position than they were last year..and we got Koeman who will be the envy of the prem league...Ron had said hes here for the long term and the Dutch are honest loyal respectable people unlike argies and iti bankers[/p][/quote]I'm not criticising what's happening at the moment Milton,I think it is slowly starting to emerge as another Southampton triumph,and I'm very much behind it. What is peeing me of at the moment,is all the hypocritical whingers,sticking their knives into Cortese (but only with the benefit of hindsight),who will never know whether or not he would have taken the club down a path of destruction(highly unlikely given his superb business acumen),but were quite happy to jump onto his European ride,when it was on track,and not far from reaching the promised land.[/p][/quote]I hope I would not be one of you hypocritical whingers positively, my stance on NC has been firm since day one, I didn't like him, didn't trust him and didn't think he did a remarkable job. I could put chapter and verse down but would be accused of going over old ground and I do feel with all the positives now happening even for the likes of me it is time to let it go, apart from the odd idiot I think even the guys who have criticised the new regime have done so out of genuine concern for what has been going on. I will try my best to leave the theories alone going forward and now let's all get behind supporting our team through what looks like very promising times indeed.[/p][/quote]That's fair comment fascia,I'm not encapsulating everyone in my rant. I've said my piece,everyone knows my stance on the matter,so I will say no more on it.[/p][/quote]That's cool, if you see me going over old ground or dragging the theories out again feel free to shoot me. I went to the Leverkusen game and enjoyed it but I can't wait for the West Brom game, should be a good game. fascia123
  • Score: 0

1:51pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

fascia123 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
miltonnroad76 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.
So it was wrong for Cortese to let players go,but not for Reed and Krueger then...hmmm?
And before you say anything..remember that Mr Krueger also said that players wouldn't be sold.There's so many "forked tongues" around here,its time someone called for the Lone Ranger!
I belive he said we neednt sell players and any deals would be in the interest of Saints..well they now have shed loads of money replaced the deserters with possibly better players and are in a much better position than they were last year..and we got Koeman who will be the envy of the prem league...Ron had said hes here for the long term and the Dutch are honest loyal respectable people unlike argies and iti bankers
I'm not criticising what's happening at the moment Milton,I think it is slowly starting to emerge as another Southampton triumph,and I'm very much behind it.
What is peeing me of at the moment,is all the hypocritical whingers,sticking their knives into Cortese (but only with the benefit of hindsight),who will never know whether or not he would have taken the club down a path of destruction(highly unlikely given his superb business acumen),but were quite happy to jump onto his European ride,when it was on track,and not far from reaching the promised land.
I hope I would not be one of you hypocritical whingers positively, my stance on NC has been firm since day one, I didn't like him, didn't trust him and didn't think he did a remarkable job.

I could put chapter and verse down but would be accused of going over old ground and I do feel with all the positives now happening even for the likes of me it is time to let it go, apart from the odd idiot I think even the guys who have criticised the new regime have done so out of genuine concern for what has been going on.

I will try my best to leave the theories alone going forward and now let's all get behind supporting our team through what looks like very promising times indeed.
That's fair comment fascia,I'm not encapsulating everyone in my rant.
I've said my piece,everyone knows my stance on the matter,so I will say no more on it.
That's cool, if you see me going over old ground or dragging the theories out again feel free to shoot me.

I went to the Leverkusen game and enjoyed it but I can't wait for the West Brom game, should be a good game.
If last Sunday was anything to go by. I love Ron Manager. ;0)
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonnroad76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.[/p][/quote]So it was wrong for Cortese to let players go,but not for Reed and Krueger then...hmmm?[/p][/quote]And before you say anything..remember that Mr Krueger also said that players wouldn't be sold.There's so many "forked tongues" around here,its time someone called for the Lone Ranger![/p][/quote]I belive he said we neednt sell players and any deals would be in the interest of Saints..well they now have shed loads of money replaced the deserters with possibly better players and are in a much better position than they were last year..and we got Koeman who will be the envy of the prem league...Ron had said hes here for the long term and the Dutch are honest loyal respectable people unlike argies and iti bankers[/p][/quote]I'm not criticising what's happening at the moment Milton,I think it is slowly starting to emerge as another Southampton triumph,and I'm very much behind it. What is peeing me of at the moment,is all the hypocritical whingers,sticking their knives into Cortese (but only with the benefit of hindsight),who will never know whether or not he would have taken the club down a path of destruction(highly unlikely given his superb business acumen),but were quite happy to jump onto his European ride,when it was on track,and not far from reaching the promised land.[/p][/quote]I hope I would not be one of you hypocritical whingers positively, my stance on NC has been firm since day one, I didn't like him, didn't trust him and didn't think he did a remarkable job. I could put chapter and verse down but would be accused of going over old ground and I do feel with all the positives now happening even for the likes of me it is time to let it go, apart from the odd idiot I think even the guys who have criticised the new regime have done so out of genuine concern for what has been going on. I will try my best to leave the theories alone going forward and now let's all get behind supporting our team through what looks like very promising times indeed.[/p][/quote]That's fair comment fascia,I'm not encapsulating everyone in my rant. I've said my piece,everyone knows my stance on the matter,so I will say no more on it.[/p][/quote]That's cool, if you see me going over old ground or dragging the theories out again feel free to shoot me. I went to the Leverkusen game and enjoyed it but I can't wait for the West Brom game, should be a good game.[/p][/quote]If last Sunday was anything to go by. I love Ron Manager. ;0) Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

1:57pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Saintsayer II says...

The song for Saturday should be :-
He's French
He's strong
He's staying where he belongs
Spiderman Spiderman
The song for Saturday should be :- He's French He's strong He's staying where he belongs Spiderman Spiderman Saintsayer II
  • Score: -1

1:58pm Wed 20 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
miltonnroad76 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.
So it was wrong for Cortese to let players go,but not for Reed and Krueger then...hmmm?
And before you say anything..remember that Mr Krueger also said that players wouldn't be sold.There's so many "forked tongues" around here,its time someone called for the Lone Ranger!
I belive he said we neednt sell players and any deals would be in the interest of Saints..well they now have shed loads of money replaced the deserters with possibly better players and are in a much better position than they were last year..and we got Koeman who will be the envy of the prem league...Ron had said hes here for the long term and the Dutch are honest loyal respectable people unlike argies and iti bankers
I'm not criticising what's happening at the moment Milton,I think it is slowly starting to emerge as another Southampton triumph,and I'm very much behind it.
What is peeing me of at the moment,is all the hypocritical whingers,sticking their knives into Cortese (but only with the benefit of hindsight),who will never know whether or not he would have taken the club down a path of destruction(highly unlikely given his superb business acumen),but were quite happy to jump onto his European ride,when it was on track,and not far from reaching the promised land.
I hope I would not be one of you hypocritical whingers positively, my stance on NC has been firm since day one, I didn't like him, didn't trust him and didn't think he did a remarkable job.

I could put chapter and verse down but would be accused of going over old ground and I do feel with all the positives now happening even for the likes of me it is time to let it go, apart from the odd idiot I think even the guys who have criticised the new regime have done so out of genuine concern for what has been going on.

I will try my best to leave the theories alone going forward and now let's all get behind supporting our team through what looks like very promising times indeed.
That's fair comment fascia,I'm not encapsulating everyone in my rant.
I've said my piece,everyone knows my stance on the matter,so I will say no more on it.
That's cool, if you see me going over old ground or dragging the theories out again feel free to shoot me.

I went to the Leverkusen game and enjoyed it but I can't wait for the West Brom game, should be a good game.
If last Sunday was anything to go by. I love Ron Manager. ;0)
I know it's really early doors but I get the feeling he could turn into another one of the great managers for Saints, more of a Lawrie Mac than a Branfoot.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonnroad76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.[/p][/quote]So it was wrong for Cortese to let players go,but not for Reed and Krueger then...hmmm?[/p][/quote]And before you say anything..remember that Mr Krueger also said that players wouldn't be sold.There's so many "forked tongues" around here,its time someone called for the Lone Ranger![/p][/quote]I belive he said we neednt sell players and any deals would be in the interest of Saints..well they now have shed loads of money replaced the deserters with possibly better players and are in a much better position than they were last year..and we got Koeman who will be the envy of the prem league...Ron had said hes here for the long term and the Dutch are honest loyal respectable people unlike argies and iti bankers[/p][/quote]I'm not criticising what's happening at the moment Milton,I think it is slowly starting to emerge as another Southampton triumph,and I'm very much behind it. What is peeing me of at the moment,is all the hypocritical whingers,sticking their knives into Cortese (but only with the benefit of hindsight),who will never know whether or not he would have taken the club down a path of destruction(highly unlikely given his superb business acumen),but were quite happy to jump onto his European ride,when it was on track,and not far from reaching the promised land.[/p][/quote]I hope I would not be one of you hypocritical whingers positively, my stance on NC has been firm since day one, I didn't like him, didn't trust him and didn't think he did a remarkable job. I could put chapter and verse down but would be accused of going over old ground and I do feel with all the positives now happening even for the likes of me it is time to let it go, apart from the odd idiot I think even the guys who have criticised the new regime have done so out of genuine concern for what has been going on. I will try my best to leave the theories alone going forward and now let's all get behind supporting our team through what looks like very promising times indeed.[/p][/quote]That's fair comment fascia,I'm not encapsulating everyone in my rant. I've said my piece,everyone knows my stance on the matter,so I will say no more on it.[/p][/quote]That's cool, if you see me going over old ground or dragging the theories out again feel free to shoot me. I went to the Leverkusen game and enjoyed it but I can't wait for the West Brom game, should be a good game.[/p][/quote]If last Sunday was anything to go by. I love Ron Manager. ;0)[/p][/quote]I know it's really early doors but I get the feeling he could turn into another one of the great managers for Saints, more of a Lawrie Mac than a Branfoot. fascia123
  • Score: 4

2:15pm Wed 20 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

simmo 2 wrote:
doesnt want to stay !! still cannot see him giving 100% every week , still think he will be gone on 1st sept ... we will see , hope i am wrong !!
Why? Why would he not give 100% every week? He's a football player FFS. Can you honestly see him wandering out and not trying his hardest when his whole reputation and career is at stake?

That's exactly what Ron asked him to consider and the result was a committed and impressive performance on Sunday.

The board knows what will happen if we sell Morgan on 1 September and let's just hope this Townsend link doesn't make them think the deal becomes more acceptable - it doesn't. Swapping a player they don't want for one we see as vital, regardless of what else we get cash wise, is not a good message to send to the fans.

My prediction is that Morgan still thinks in his heart that we'll buckle. Result? He will probably go on the sulk again for a week or so after the window closes and, once he's got used to it, knuckle down and put all his anger into his performances to show clubs what they are missing. As long as he doesn't get sent off every game I think that's fine.
[quote][p][bold]simmo 2[/bold] wrote: doesnt want to stay !! still cannot see him giving 100% every week , still think he will be gone on 1st sept ... we will see , hope i am wrong !![/p][/quote]Why? Why would he not give 100% every week? He's a football player FFS. Can you honestly see him wandering out and not trying his hardest when his whole reputation and career is at stake? That's exactly what Ron asked him to consider and the result was a committed and impressive performance on Sunday. The board knows what will happen if we sell Morgan on 1 September and let's just hope this Townsend link doesn't make them think the deal becomes more acceptable - it doesn't. Swapping a player they don't want for one we see as vital, regardless of what else we get cash wise, is not a good message to send to the fans. My prediction is that Morgan still thinks in his heart that we'll buckle. Result? He will probably go on the sulk again for a week or so after the window closes and, once he's got used to it, knuckle down and put all his anger into his performances to show clubs what they are missing. As long as he doesn't get sent off every game I think that's fine. SaintJD
  • Score: 5

2:20pm Wed 20 Aug 14

saintthomas says...

Chipmonk1 wrote:
saintthomas wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being.
But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month?
Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.
I am a follower of this Forum since years ago and I for me I regard highly
your posts. So I comment not for a long time. I am thinking all those they was negativ about the board or against Morgan was beset by worries what was happen about our beloved SFC. Now the future looks brigther as it has at the beginning of july. Now get us behind the new Team and the club. With our outstanding academy they deserve this support. I'm beliefe and trust in the southampton way!
Up the Saints till i die!
Thomas I think you are confusing Costa Gaz with Costa Baz. Baz is more half glass full and Gaz is more in "need of a good root" as they say here in Oz. Oh and b4 U ask Gaz login always been the same.
Thank you chip!!! I was definitively wrong! Sorry!
[quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintthomas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being. But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month? Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.[/p][/quote]I am a follower of this Forum since years ago and I for me I regard highly your posts. So I comment not for a long time. I am thinking all those they was negativ about the board or against Morgan was beset by worries what was happen about our beloved SFC. Now the future looks brigther as it has at the beginning of july. Now get us behind the new Team and the club. With our outstanding academy they deserve this support. I'm beliefe and trust in the southampton way! Up the Saints till i die![/p][/quote]Thomas I think you are confusing Costa Gaz with Costa Baz. Baz is more half glass full and Gaz is more in "need of a good root" as they say here in Oz. Oh and b4 U ask Gaz login always been the same.[/p][/quote]Thank you chip!!! I was definitively wrong! Sorry! saintthomas
  • Score: 2

2:23pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Saintsayer II says...

Alicesdad wrote:
FFS Just listen to some of you !!

Cortese was the best thing that happened to this club at its lowest ever point. There is no possible argument against that fact.

He encouraged Marcus to buy the club in exchnage for running it. When Marcus died the new owner let things be for a while but then wanted to introduce some more controls. Cortese threw his toys out of the pram and left.

After Cortese left, his dream boy manager made a jump to a so called bigger club. Poch had wanted to hear that he would be given endless funds to build a Champions League team. This had also filtered through to the players.
When Cortese and his pet monkey left, a few good players, who had profited from the Clubs swelling profile, saw the pound signs and jumped ship.

We now have the new regime, made up of a mixture of different talents and skills but very capable. We have a new top grade manager. We have an awesome squad, just needing time to bed in. Money is being spent, but not from some bottomless pit.

So from a fans point of view whats to moan about.?

I dont think the Schneiderlin saga is over yet. We are half a month from the deadline. But Spurs may not be his destination in the end. I hope he stays of couirse, he is top quality and we will be an awesome team this year

Everyone assumes Poch will do well at Spurs. mmmmm take a look back in time .... I doubt he will last the full season.

Get real you lot. I liked Cortese but didnt like the domino fall that he started. But we are over that now and moving forward.

Happy Clapper ? Who gives a flying **** Im a fan and have a much more realistic view of things than some on here.

Rant over
Thank you You just saved me 20 minutes typing time

I really can't understand those bashing NC £27m outstanding transfer fees to be paid when you are about to pick up £95 m from TV and the PL is hardly a disaster

He didn't often speak publicly but at least you could believe him when he did
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: FFS Just listen to some of you !! Cortese was the best thing that happened to this club at its lowest ever point. There is no possible argument against that fact. He encouraged Marcus to buy the club in exchnage for running it. When Marcus died the new owner let things be for a while but then wanted to introduce some more controls. Cortese threw his toys out of the pram and left. After Cortese left, his dream boy manager made a jump to a so called bigger club. Poch had wanted to hear that he would be given endless funds to build a Champions League team. This had also filtered through to the players. When Cortese and his pet monkey left, a few good players, who had profited from the Clubs swelling profile, saw the pound signs and jumped ship. We now have the new regime, made up of a mixture of different talents and skills but very capable. We have a new top grade manager. We have an awesome squad, just needing time to bed in. Money is being spent, but not from some bottomless pit. So from a fans point of view whats to moan about.? I dont think the Schneiderlin saga is over yet. We are half a month from the deadline. But Spurs may not be his destination in the end. I hope he stays of couirse, he is top quality and we will be an awesome team this year Everyone assumes Poch will do well at Spurs. mmmmm take a look back in time .... I doubt he will last the full season. Get real you lot. I liked Cortese but didnt like the domino fall that he started. But we are over that now and moving forward. Happy Clapper ? Who gives a flying **** Im a fan and have a much more realistic view of things than some on here. Rant over[/p][/quote]Thank you You just saved me 20 minutes typing time I really can't understand those bashing NC £27m outstanding transfer fees to be paid when you are about to pick up £95 m from TV and the PL is hardly a disaster He didn't often speak publicly but at least you could believe him when he did Saintsayer II
  • Score: 0

2:41pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
The song for Saturday should be :-
He's French
He's strong
He's staying where he belongs
Spiderman Spiderman
Spot On !!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: The song for Saturday should be :- He's French He's strong He's staying where he belongs Spiderman Spiderman[/p][/quote]Spot On !!!!! Buddy SFC
  • Score: 1

2:41pm Wed 20 Aug 14

warrens 76 says...

I do not believe for one moment NC purposefully hurt the club he built…it was his baby and even if it is taken away from you you do not wish it harm.
I do not believe for one moment NC purposefully hurt the club he built…it was his baby and even if it is taken away from you you do not wish it harm. warrens 76
  • Score: 1

2:48pm Wed 20 Aug 14

just kidding says...

jls217 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.
Cortese always did what he thought was in the best interests of the club whilst the club had a n interest in him..
He told players they were worth x and would not let them go for y…
In using Lambert as an example you have kind of shot your own argument…a) he was going to a lesser club, b) He was getting 7/8million not 4 million c) LFC would not have got him and all that followed.

Look everything about NC is pure speculation we do not know, none of us…what we do Know is he engineered the safety of our club, he improved us 5 years on the spin, he one us JPT then back to back promotions and recruited ever more succesful managers….

Financially he took an original 14 million investment and adding in staplewood and poor signings (everyone has em) and turned us into a club worth 200-250 million which is a staggering ROI in any business, in football probably never been done!

He has gone and it is histrory but his PROVEN record is unarguable.
Cortese ALWAYS did what was best for Cortese - the info trickling out concerning his actions and lack of to suit his purposes after Markus died is noteworthy. Very happy Katharina saw through it and clipped his wings. Interesting to note how NC started acting after that event. If you are a died in the wool NC man (as I was to start with) I doubt you will want to see the allegations surrounding his devious plots. I was open minded as I know the average human is capable of almost anything to serve their needs - NC was extreme even in the pursuance of this it seems.
I would rather remember him for the good years he gave us, acknowledge he was eventually a wrong 'un and give thanks he is no longer here to continue with his power trip and move on to enjoy this new era. But Saint NC he most certainly was not.
I am really pleased the Koeman era is here, everything else is history. To me Koeman represents stability and respect, in the same mold as Sir Alex Ferguson. Too early to tell yet but the summer of 2014 could be the Seismic shift that propels the club to greatness, instead of ruin as has been predicted. Well that's what I would like anyway.

Can't stop watching that 2nd half (cept for that firkin Sturridge goal of course.) Get your shooting boots on lads.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.[/p][/quote]Cortese always did what he thought was in the best interests of the club whilst the club had a n interest in him.. He told players they were worth x and would not let them go for y… In using Lambert as an example you have kind of shot your own argument…a) he was going to a lesser club, b) He was getting 7/8million not 4 million c) LFC would not have got him and all that followed. Look everything about NC is pure speculation we do not know, none of us…what we do Know is he engineered the safety of our club, he improved us 5 years on the spin, he one us JPT then back to back promotions and recruited ever more succesful managers…. Financially he took an original 14 million investment and adding in staplewood and poor signings (everyone has em) and turned us into a club worth 200-250 million which is a staggering ROI in any business, in football probably never been done! He has gone and it is histrory but his PROVEN record is unarguable.[/p][/quote]Cortese ALWAYS did what was best for Cortese - the info trickling out concerning his actions and lack of to suit his purposes after Markus died is noteworthy. Very happy Katharina saw through it and clipped his wings. Interesting to note how NC started acting after that event. If you are a died in the wool NC man (as I was to start with) I doubt you will want to see the allegations surrounding his devious plots. I was open minded as I know the average human is capable of almost anything to serve their needs - NC was extreme even in the pursuance of this it seems. I would rather remember him for the good years he gave us, acknowledge he was eventually a wrong 'un and give thanks he is no longer here to continue with his power trip and move on to enjoy this new era. But Saint NC he most certainly was not.[/p][/quote]I am really pleased the Koeman era is here, everything else is history. To me Koeman represents stability and respect, in the same mold as Sir Alex Ferguson. Too early to tell yet but the summer of 2014 could be the Seismic shift that propels the club to greatness, instead of ruin as has been predicted. Well that's what I would like anyway. Can't stop watching that 2nd half (cept for that firkin Sturridge goal of course.) Get your shooting boots on lads. just kidding
  • Score: 2

2:54pm Wed 20 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

just kidding wrote:
jls217 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.
Cortese always did what he thought was in the best interests of the club whilst the club had a n interest in him..
He told players they were worth x and would not let them go for y…
In using Lambert as an example you have kind of shot your own argument…a) he was going to a lesser club, b) He was getting 7/8million not 4 million c) LFC would not have got him and all that followed.

Look everything about NC is pure speculation we do not know, none of us…what we do Know is he engineered the safety of our club, he improved us 5 years on the spin, he one us JPT then back to back promotions and recruited ever more succesful managers….

Financially he took an original 14 million investment and adding in staplewood and poor signings (everyone has em) and turned us into a club worth 200-250 million which is a staggering ROI in any business, in football probably never been done!

He has gone and it is histrory but his PROVEN record is unarguable.
Cortese ALWAYS did what was best for Cortese - the info trickling out concerning his actions and lack of to suit his purposes after Markus died is noteworthy. Very happy Katharina saw through it and clipped his wings. Interesting to note how NC started acting after that event. If you are a died in the wool NC man (as I was to start with) I doubt you will want to see the allegations surrounding his devious plots. I was open minded as I know the average human is capable of almost anything to serve their needs - NC was extreme even in the pursuance of this it seems.
I would rather remember him for the good years he gave us, acknowledge he was eventually a wrong 'un and give thanks he is no longer here to continue with his power trip and move on to enjoy this new era. But Saint NC he most certainly was not.
I am really pleased the Koeman era is here, everything else is history. To me Koeman represents stability and respect, in the same mold as Sir Alex Ferguson. Too early to tell yet but the summer of 2014 could be the Seismic shift that propels the club to greatness, instead of ruin as has been predicted. Well that's what I would like anyway.

Can't stop watching that 2nd half (cept for that firkin Sturridge goal of course.) Get your shooting boots on lads.
I agree totally, yes unfortunately that did blot an otherwise very good half of football.
[quote][p][bold]just kidding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.[/p][/quote]Cortese always did what he thought was in the best interests of the club whilst the club had a n interest in him.. He told players they were worth x and would not let them go for y… In using Lambert as an example you have kind of shot your own argument…a) he was going to a lesser club, b) He was getting 7/8million not 4 million c) LFC would not have got him and all that followed. Look everything about NC is pure speculation we do not know, none of us…what we do Know is he engineered the safety of our club, he improved us 5 years on the spin, he one us JPT then back to back promotions and recruited ever more succesful managers…. Financially he took an original 14 million investment and adding in staplewood and poor signings (everyone has em) and turned us into a club worth 200-250 million which is a staggering ROI in any business, in football probably never been done! He has gone and it is histrory but his PROVEN record is unarguable.[/p][/quote]Cortese ALWAYS did what was best for Cortese - the info trickling out concerning his actions and lack of to suit his purposes after Markus died is noteworthy. Very happy Katharina saw through it and clipped his wings. Interesting to note how NC started acting after that event. If you are a died in the wool NC man (as I was to start with) I doubt you will want to see the allegations surrounding his devious plots. I was open minded as I know the average human is capable of almost anything to serve their needs - NC was extreme even in the pursuance of this it seems. I would rather remember him for the good years he gave us, acknowledge he was eventually a wrong 'un and give thanks he is no longer here to continue with his power trip and move on to enjoy this new era. But Saint NC he most certainly was not.[/p][/quote]I am really pleased the Koeman era is here, everything else is history. To me Koeman represents stability and respect, in the same mold as Sir Alex Ferguson. Too early to tell yet but the summer of 2014 could be the Seismic shift that propels the club to greatness, instead of ruin as has been predicted. Well that's what I would like anyway. Can't stop watching that 2nd half (cept for that firkin Sturridge goal of course.) Get your shooting boots on lads.[/p][/quote]I agree totally, yes unfortunately that did blot an otherwise very good half of football. fascia123
  • Score: 2

5:23pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Benali76 says...

Alicesdad wrote:
FFS Just listen to some of you !!

Cortese was the best thing that happened to this club at its lowest ever point. There is no possible argument against that fact.

He encouraged Marcus to buy the club in exchnage for running it. When Marcus died the new owner let things be for a while but then wanted to introduce some more controls. Cortese threw his toys out of the pram and left.

After Cortese left, his dream boy manager made a jump to a so called bigger club. Poch had wanted to hear that he would be given endless funds to build a Champions League team. This had also filtered through to the players.
When Cortese and his pet monkey left, a few good players, who had profited from the Clubs swelling profile, saw the pound signs and jumped ship.

We now have the new regime, made up of a mixture of different talents and skills but very capable. We have a new top grade manager. We have an awesome squad, just needing time to bed in. Money is being spent, but not from some bottomless pit.

So from a fans point of view whats to moan about.?

I dont think the Schneiderlin saga is over yet. We are half a month from the deadline. But Spurs may not be his destination in the end. I hope he stays of couirse, he is top quality and we will be an awesome team this year

Everyone assumes Poch will do well at Spurs. mmmmm take a look back in time .... I doubt he will last the full season.

Get real you lot. I liked Cortese but didnt like the domino fall that he started. But we are over that now and moving forward.

Happy Clapper ? Who gives a flying **** Im a fan and have a much more realistic view of things than some on here.

Rant over
Spot on.
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: FFS Just listen to some of you !! Cortese was the best thing that happened to this club at its lowest ever point. There is no possible argument against that fact. He encouraged Marcus to buy the club in exchnage for running it. When Marcus died the new owner let things be for a while but then wanted to introduce some more controls. Cortese threw his toys out of the pram and left. After Cortese left, his dream boy manager made a jump to a so called bigger club. Poch had wanted to hear that he would be given endless funds to build a Champions League team. This had also filtered through to the players. When Cortese and his pet monkey left, a few good players, who had profited from the Clubs swelling profile, saw the pound signs and jumped ship. We now have the new regime, made up of a mixture of different talents and skills but very capable. We have a new top grade manager. We have an awesome squad, just needing time to bed in. Money is being spent, but not from some bottomless pit. So from a fans point of view whats to moan about.? I dont think the Schneiderlin saga is over yet. We are half a month from the deadline. But Spurs may not be his destination in the end. I hope he stays of couirse, he is top quality and we will be an awesome team this year Everyone assumes Poch will do well at Spurs. mmmmm take a look back in time .... I doubt he will last the full season. Get real you lot. I liked Cortese but didnt like the domino fall that he started. But we are over that now and moving forward. Happy Clapper ? Who gives a flying **** Im a fan and have a much more realistic view of things than some on here. Rant over[/p][/quote]Spot on. Benali76
  • Score: 0

5:36pm Wed 20 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being.
But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month?
Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.
Take a happy pill FFS
And what was your login 6 months ago fascia123?
The same as it was three years ago when I joined, I have not participated for the last couple of years because of idiots like you that don't come on here to debate football issues, they just come on to argue, I read your stuff sometimes and think you spend more time arguing with yourself, I don't like to resort to rudeness but you just pis? Me off.
Not participated for 3 years, well you are certainly making up for lost time, 14/15 posts on this thread alone around 17% of all today's posts are from you. it's the same everyday..... you just have to say something don't you?

Back slapping all you agree with and abusing all those you disagree with.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being. But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month? Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.[/p][/quote]Take a happy pill FFS[/p][/quote]And what was your login 6 months ago fascia123?[/p][/quote]The same as it was three years ago when I joined, I have not participated for the last couple of years because of idiots like you that don't come on here to debate football issues, they just come on to argue, I read your stuff sometimes and think you spend more time arguing with yourself, I don't like to resort to rudeness but you just pis? Me off.[/p][/quote]Not participated for 3 years, well you are certainly making up for lost time, 14/15 posts on this thread alone around 17% of all today's posts are from you. it's the same everyday..... you just have to say something don't you? Back slapping all you agree with and abusing all those you disagree with. costa gaz
  • Score: -9

5:43pm Wed 20 Aug 14

saintbobby says...

Comments about the second half at Anfield do emphasise how the players must learn to try and score more often. Steven Davis had a great chance, and whilst he did shoot it was a very tame effort. He knew it with head in hands and if only he had hit through the ball instead of placing it, then he would almost certainly have scored.

Rolled into this was some downright bad luck, but many have said we need a goal-scoring striker. Maybe, but we have not seen how the new boys go about it in front of goal. We do not want another season of dominant possession if no one tries to hit the net.

JWP seems keen to get in there and was playing rather more forward, I thought, than previous games. Surely, England is beckoning and probably is only a few months away from the squad. Those free kicks and corners are right up there with the best.

Notwithstanding all this, I feel excited about the team and Ronald Koeman looks like being a very big man in the PL. As I said - excited!

One little point. Against Brighton, Saints wore some very bright yellow shorts. Looked pretty good, I thought, but what was that all about when we saw them in blue shorts at Anfield. Get the yellow on and dazzle the opposition! Stripes on Saturday, oh! Happy days.
Comments about the second half at Anfield do emphasise how the players must learn to try and score more often. Steven Davis had a great chance, and whilst he did shoot it was a very tame effort. He knew it with head in hands and if only he had hit through the ball instead of placing it, then he would almost certainly have scored. Rolled into this was some downright bad luck, but many have said we need a goal-scoring striker. Maybe, but we have not seen how the new boys go about it in front of goal. We do not want another season of dominant possession if no one tries to hit the net. JWP seems keen to get in there and was playing rather more forward, I thought, than previous games. Surely, England is beckoning and probably is only a few months away from the squad. Those free kicks and corners are right up there with the best. Notwithstanding all this, I feel excited about the team and Ronald Koeman looks like being a very big man in the PL. As I said - excited! One little point. Against Brighton, Saints wore some very bright yellow shorts. Looked pretty good, I thought, but what was that all about when we saw them in blue shorts at Anfield. Get the yellow on and dazzle the opposition! Stripes on Saturday, oh! Happy days. saintbobby
  • Score: 1

6:28pm Wed 20 Aug 14

saint phil says...

rrrrrrrr
rrrrrrrr saint phil
  • Score: 0

6:30pm Wed 20 Aug 14

andy newbury says...

you are wright about the away kit it should be more prominent to the opposition so they know they are in for a fight not a parade of pretty footballers, show we mean business as soon as we are on the pitch.Be made more aware to the opposition, the kit is a great way of making an impact straight away. always liked the yellows made us stand out wright from the start. just my opinion not everybody,s. Whatever we wear I hope we do well this season( I am sure we will no mater what we wear)
you are wright about the away kit it should be more prominent to the opposition so they know they are in for a fight not a parade of pretty footballers, show we mean business as soon as we are on the pitch.Be made more aware to the opposition, the kit is a great way of making an impact straight away. always liked the yellows made us stand out wright from the start. just my opinion not everybody,s. Whatever we wear I hope we do well this season( I am sure we will no mater what we wear) andy newbury
  • Score: 1

6:56pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Chapperall says...

Well said Jose as the captain you know who the key players are for the team just like the manager and supporters. However the question to answer is do the board?
It's totally irrelevant whist was agreed with Cortose he is history just like the others. I am still left wondering if he created the situation by promising Poch and players that they could leave when he knew he was going. We will never know!
Bottom line please don't sell Morgan as he is key to our success this season
Well said Jose as the captain you know who the key players are for the team just like the manager and supporters. However the question to answer is do the board? It's totally irrelevant whist was agreed with Cortose he is history just like the others. I am still left wondering if he created the situation by promising Poch and players that they could leave when he knew he was going. We will never know! Bottom line please don't sell Morgan as he is key to our success this season Chapperall
  • Score: 1

7:20pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

saint phil wrote:
rrrrrrrr
Oive gorra bran'new combine 'arvester!
[quote][p][bold]saint phil[/bold] wrote: rrrrrrrr[/p][/quote]Oive gorra bran'new combine 'arvester! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

7:54pm Wed 20 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

andy newbury wrote:
you are wright about the away kit it should be more prominent to the opposition so they know they are in for a fight not a parade of pretty footballers, show we mean business as soon as we are on the pitch.Be made more aware to the opposition, the kit is a great way of making an impact straight away. always liked the yellows made us stand out wright from the start. just my opinion not everybody,s. Whatever we wear I hope we do well this season( I am sure we will no mater what we wear)
If it looks wright it probably is right, right?
[quote][p][bold]andy newbury[/bold] wrote: you are wright about the away kit it should be more prominent to the opposition so they know they are in for a fight not a parade of pretty footballers, show we mean business as soon as we are on the pitch.Be made more aware to the opposition, the kit is a great way of making an impact straight away. always liked the yellows made us stand out wright from the start. just my opinion not everybody,s. Whatever we wear I hope we do well this season( I am sure we will no mater what we wear)[/p][/quote]If it looks wright it probably is right, right? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

8:38pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

I miss the Dell. Football was full of sunshine back then.
I miss the Dell. Football was full of sunshine back then. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

8:42pm Wed 20 Aug 14

north wales saint 2 says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
Seeing Morgan playing against Liverpool showed how good a player he is. Spurs (& Arsenal, even Liverpool & Manure) will be watching developments.

We must not sell now as it is too late to find a replacement. Every player has his price but we don't want or need to sell so set his price at £30m to deter any bids in January. However as he continues to improve it will be difficult to keep him next summer unless we match his ambitions.

To do that we must bring in a better CB and a proven Goalscorer before the transfer window closes.

The central defence still needs strengthening even if Gardos proves to be as good as Lovren. There are several available like Wollscheid, van Dijk, etc and we can afford them, it will be a big risk if we loose Fonte or Gardos through injury or suspension.

Also goals win games and we must start to convert all the chances we make, we could have drawn or even won had we done this against Liverpool. There are proven Goalscorers about like Bony, Benteke etc but if we can't buy them then a one season loan would do like E'oto.

A pacy winger with a good cross to get the best from Pelle is also needed, plus a possible RB as competition and cover for Cline.

General cover for other positions can be from our next crop of youngsters coming through.

It is usual for a new manager to build his own team so we have to trust RonKo will do that, but the board need to give him these extra three players to complete his team for this season.

You have about 10 days Les so keep going and get these in asap.

COYR&WS
So you re one of the Fonte bashers I keep going on about.He is a solid centre back well worthy of the captains armband played a blinder on Sunday,what more do you want? I feel with competent support (Gardos) with Yoshida as back up we will be fine.What we need is to be converting our chances more often and as I said on a previous thread this is not a bashing session.New team,getting used to each other,it can only get better.I feel an exciting season lies ahead.
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Seeing Morgan playing against Liverpool showed how good a player he is. Spurs (& Arsenal, even Liverpool & Manure) will be watching developments. We must not sell now as it is too late to find a replacement. Every player has his price but we don't want or need to sell so set his price at £30m to deter any bids in January. However as he continues to improve it will be difficult to keep him next summer unless we match his ambitions. To do that we must bring in a better CB and a proven Goalscorer before the transfer window closes. The central defence still needs strengthening even if Gardos proves to be as good as Lovren. There are several available like Wollscheid, van Dijk, etc and we can afford them, it will be a big risk if we loose Fonte or Gardos through injury or suspension. Also goals win games and we must start to convert all the chances we make, we could have drawn or even won had we done this against Liverpool. There are proven Goalscorers about like Bony, Benteke etc but if we can't buy them then a one season loan would do like E'oto. A pacy winger with a good cross to get the best from Pelle is also needed, plus a possible RB as competition and cover for Cline. General cover for other positions can be from our next crop of youngsters coming through. It is usual for a new manager to build his own team so we have to trust RonKo will do that, but the board need to give him these extra three players to complete his team for this season. You have about 10 days Les so keep going and get these in asap. COYR&WS[/p][/quote]So you re one of the Fonte bashers I keep going on about.He is a solid centre back well worthy of the captains armband played a blinder on Sunday,what more do you want? I feel with competent support (Gardos) with Yoshida as back up we will be fine.What we need is to be converting our chances more often and as I said on a previous thread this is not a bashing session.New team,getting used to each other,it can only get better.I feel an exciting season lies ahead. north wales saint 2
  • Score: 1

9:22pm Wed 20 Aug 14

thinklikealocal says...

Les Miserables wrote:
Just to put one fallacy to bed - the story regularly bandied around about how none of the players would have left if NC was still here.
The Luke Shaw deal (to Man U) was agreed in principal before last Christmas, ditto Liarlanas exit to Liverhampton.
Was going to keep schtum rather than jeapordise employment but I am fed up with reading all the BS and bile blaming the current board. End of!
Ditto Lambert to LFC....
[quote][p][bold]Les Miserables[/bold] wrote: Just to put one fallacy to bed - the story regularly bandied around about how none of the players would have left if NC was still here. The Luke Shaw deal (to Man U) was agreed in principal before last Christmas, ditto Liarlanas exit to Liverhampton. Was going to keep schtum rather than jeapordise employment but I am fed up with reading all the BS and bile blaming the current board. End of![/p][/quote]Ditto Lambert to LFC.... thinklikealocal
  • Score: 0

9:44pm Wed 20 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being.
But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month?
Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.
Take a happy pill FFS
And what was your login 6 months ago fascia123?
The same as it was three years ago when I joined, I have not participated for the last couple of years because of idiots like you that don't come on here to debate football issues, they just come on to argue, I read your stuff sometimes and think you spend more time arguing with yourself, I don't like to resort to rudeness but you just pis? Me off.
Not participated for 3 years, well you are certainly making up for lost time, 14/15 posts on this thread alone around 17% of all today's posts are from you. it's the same everyday..... you just have to say something don't you?

Back slapping all you agree with and abusing all those you disagree with.
There you go thinking again, it really is a waste of time, I said a couple of years, I know it's difficult but please keep up.

I have posted a lot recently as I have been on holiday and it has been a time in the club I have supported since a boy that a lot has transpired.

Seems a funny smell I wondered what it was but have just worked it out you have had your socks off working out those percentages, well done that's very good.

I never abuse anyone only offer alternative thread of thoughts, as I say it really is a waste of time responding so from now on please don't comment on my posts and won't waste my time responding to your inane nonsense.

Now be a good boy and fuc? Off.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being. But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month? Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.[/p][/quote]Take a happy pill FFS[/p][/quote]And what was your login 6 months ago fascia123?[/p][/quote]The same as it was three years ago when I joined, I have not participated for the last couple of years because of idiots like you that don't come on here to debate football issues, they just come on to argue, I read your stuff sometimes and think you spend more time arguing with yourself, I don't like to resort to rudeness but you just pis? Me off.[/p][/quote]Not participated for 3 years, well you are certainly making up for lost time, 14/15 posts on this thread alone around 17% of all today's posts are from you. it's the same everyday..... you just have to say something don't you? Back slapping all you agree with and abusing all those you disagree with.[/p][/quote]There you go thinking again, it really is a waste of time, I said a couple of years, I know it's difficult but please keep up. I have posted a lot recently as I have been on holiday and it has been a time in the club I have supported since a boy that a lot has transpired. Seems a funny smell I wondered what it was but have just worked it out you have had your socks off working out those percentages, well done that's very good. I never abuse anyone only offer alternative thread of thoughts, as I say it really is a waste of time responding so from now on please don't comment on my posts and won't waste my time responding to your inane nonsense. Now be a good boy and fuc? Off. fascia123
  • Score: 5

9:55pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being.
But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month?
Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.
Take a happy pill FFS
And what was your login 6 months ago fascia123?
The same as it was three years ago when I joined, I have not participated for the last couple of years because of idiots like you that don't come on here to debate football issues, they just come on to argue, I read your stuff sometimes and think you spend more time arguing with yourself, I don't like to resort to rudeness but you just pis? Me off.
Not participated for 3 years, well you are certainly making up for lost time, 14/15 posts on this thread alone around 17% of all today's posts are from you. it's the same everyday..... you just have to say something don't you?

Back slapping all you agree with and abusing all those you disagree with.
There you go thinking again, it really is a waste of time, I said a couple of years, I know it's difficult but please keep up.

I have posted a lot recently as I have been on holiday and it has been a time in the club I have supported since a boy that a lot has transpired.

Seems a funny smell I wondered what it was but have just worked it out you have had your socks off working out those percentages, well done that's very good.

I never abuse anyone only offer alternative thread of thoughts, as I say it really is a waste of time responding so from now on please don't comment on my posts and won't waste my time responding to your inane nonsense.

Now be a good boy and fuc? Off.
Leave it out. We've had our differences on here as to the reasons why we've had an awful summer at the club. What's done is done. I think all are united in belief in Ron and we have definitely acquired some good players with others to prove themselves. It's time to move on otherwise the factions will continue no matter what is happening on the pitch.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being. But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month? Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.[/p][/quote]Take a happy pill FFS[/p][/quote]And what was your login 6 months ago fascia123?[/p][/quote]The same as it was three years ago when I joined, I have not participated for the last couple of years because of idiots like you that don't come on here to debate football issues, they just come on to argue, I read your stuff sometimes and think you spend more time arguing with yourself, I don't like to resort to rudeness but you just pis? Me off.[/p][/quote]Not participated for 3 years, well you are certainly making up for lost time, 14/15 posts on this thread alone around 17% of all today's posts are from you. it's the same everyday..... you just have to say something don't you? Back slapping all you agree with and abusing all those you disagree with.[/p][/quote]There you go thinking again, it really is a waste of time, I said a couple of years, I know it's difficult but please keep up. I have posted a lot recently as I have been on holiday and it has been a time in the club I have supported since a boy that a lot has transpired. Seems a funny smell I wondered what it was but have just worked it out you have had your socks off working out those percentages, well done that's very good. I never abuse anyone only offer alternative thread of thoughts, as I say it really is a waste of time responding so from now on please don't comment on my posts and won't waste my time responding to your inane nonsense. Now be a good boy and fuc? Off.[/p][/quote]Leave it out. We've had our differences on here as to the reasons why we've had an awful summer at the club. What's done is done. I think all are united in belief in Ron and we have definitely acquired some good players with others to prove themselves. It's time to move on otherwise the factions will continue no matter what is happening on the pitch. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 2

9:59pm Wed 20 Aug 14

jls217 says...

saintthomas wrote:
spratt wrote:
saintthomas wrote:
Rooflas wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.
When will the truth come out about all of cortèses past dealings? IMO he has a lot to answer to and would have dragged us back into relegation. Obviously we did rise up two divisions under his watch but was it done with any class? 3 managers, countless disagreements from cleaners to former players, court cases etc etc. What would we have needed most to return to premier league? Cortèse or the liebherrs? I know who my monies on and I'll be backing this board.
As for spider, I would love him to stay and be happy playing for us, but if asking price is met he too will be gone.
So in my opinion KL had sacked Cortese, while he was out of control in the financel department also in agreements with some Players. I am thinking she was heading for a loyal person at the helm as CEO to her and our beloved club. If you running a business of your own would you have a manager that gives a Budget of £15m to rebuild staplewood and the costs will rise up to £30m or more? Would you have a man that gives gentleman
agreements to some players and perhaps you knowing nothing about such things? No I am thinking nobody would have such a person on the Joysticks! All the players they has left, was in the same position as Spider was. I am thinking the bord an RonKo had seen the potential of Morgan and that was the reason, he was not sold. Please apologise, my English is horrible as it is!
UP the saints till I die
Regarding KL and Cortese - did I not read at the time of his departure that she had tried very hard to keep him?
Yes of corse I had it read too. You are right But as she did a scrutiny of all issues on SFC she had seen the whole picture. You think so?
And the same is said about every MP every police chief etc etc etc who is put on gardening leave.
How may times have we heard the bare faced blx coming from the higher echelons of life - "I will put every effort into trying to make the chief constable reconsider his resignation" - Coming from the same person who 24 hours earlier had given the hapless chief constable the ultimatum to resign or be sacked.
Of course she was going to say she would try to keep him in public - wonder what she felt and said in private?
[quote][p][bold]saintthomas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintthomas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rooflas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Two questions arise here: why did Morgan want to leave this season and why did Cortese agree to let him? There was much speculation that Arsenal wanted him - was that the reason? Who knows? But if this story is true it makes a mockery of Cortese's statement that none of the players would have been sold if he'd still been here. We already know he was planning to off-load Lambert to West Ham so there's two of the five he'd have let go. Maybe he would have kept Pochettino but that's irrelevant. What this shows is that our former Chairman spoke with a forked tongue. Thankfully Koeman seems to be sorting things out and has persuaded Schneiderlin to play. And long may be continue doing so.[/p][/quote]When will the truth come out about all of cortèses past dealings? IMO he has a lot to answer to and would have dragged us back into relegation. Obviously we did rise up two divisions under his watch but was it done with any class? 3 managers, countless disagreements from cleaners to former players, court cases etc etc. What would we have needed most to return to premier league? Cortèse or the liebherrs? I know who my monies on and I'll be backing this board. As for spider, I would love him to stay and be happy playing for us, but if asking price is met he too will be gone.[/p][/quote]So in my opinion KL had sacked Cortese, while he was out of control in the financel department also in agreements with some Players. I am thinking she was heading for a loyal person at the helm as CEO to her and our beloved club. If you running a business of your own would you have a manager that gives a Budget of £15m to rebuild staplewood and the costs will rise up to £30m or more? Would you have a man that gives gentleman agreements to some players and perhaps you knowing nothing about such things? No I am thinking nobody would have such a person on the Joysticks! All the players they has left, was in the same position as Spider was. I am thinking the bord an RonKo had seen the potential of Morgan and that was the reason, he was not sold. Please apologise, my English is horrible as it is! UP the saints till I die[/p][/quote]Regarding KL and Cortese - did I not read at the time of his departure that she had tried very hard to keep him?[/p][/quote]Yes of corse I had it read too. You are right But as she did a scrutiny of all issues on SFC she had seen the whole picture. You think so?[/p][/quote]And the same is said about every MP every police chief etc etc etc who is put on gardening leave. How may times have we heard the bare faced blx coming from the higher echelons of life - "I will put every effort into trying to make the chief constable reconsider his resignation" - Coming from the same person who 24 hours earlier had given the hapless chief constable the ultimatum to resign or be sacked. Of course she was going to say she would try to keep him in public - wonder what she felt and said in private? jls217
  • Score: 0

10:01pm Wed 20 Aug 14

jls217 says...

jls217 wrote:
Goalscoringmachine wrote:
We need a Morgan song/chant. How about to the Spiderman theme tune; "Schneiderlin, Schneiderlin does whatever we need to win, watch out here comes Schneiderlin". Any poets out there please step in....
Spyderman get's tapped up, wants to win the Euro cup.

Just saying..............

..
Do I detect it's a non-starter lads? Shame I thought it had quite a ring to it.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Goalscoringmachine[/bold] wrote: We need a Morgan song/chant. How about to the Spiderman theme tune; "Schneiderlin, Schneiderlin does whatever we need to win, watch out here comes Schneiderlin". Any poets out there please step in....[/p][/quote]Spyderman get's tapped up, wants to win the Euro cup. Just saying.............. ..[/p][/quote]Do I detect it's a non-starter lads? Shame I thought it had quite a ring to it. jls217
  • Score: 0

10:10pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Invidia says...

So it looks as if we are going to get a right winger, a CB and cover for Clyne as well, apparently we are close to signing the Argentinian RW Gonzales(speedy), I believe he is thirty but can play in any of the above positions and the fee is around 4 million pounds.
So it looks as if we are going to get a right winger, a CB and cover for Clyne as well, apparently we are close to signing the Argentinian RW Gonzales(speedy), I believe he is thirty but can play in any of the above positions and the fee is around 4 million pounds. Invidia
  • Score: 0

10:12pm Wed 20 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being.
But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month?
Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.
Take a happy pill FFS
And what was your login 6 months ago fascia123?
The same as it was three years ago when I joined, I have not participated for the last couple of years because of idiots like you that don't come on here to debate football issues, they just come on to argue, I read your stuff sometimes and think you spend more time arguing with yourself, I don't like to resort to rudeness but you just pis? Me off.
Not participated for 3 years, well you are certainly making up for lost time, 14/15 posts on this thread alone around 17% of all today's posts are from you. it's the same everyday..... you just have to say something don't you?

Back slapping all you agree with and abusing all those you disagree with.
There you go thinking again, it really is a waste of time, I said a couple of years, I know it's difficult but please keep up.

I have posted a lot recently as I have been on holiday and it has been a time in the club I have supported since a boy that a lot has transpired.

Seems a funny smell I wondered what it was but have just worked it out you have had your socks off working out those percentages, well done that's very good.

I never abuse anyone only offer alternative thread of thoughts, as I say it really is a waste of time responding so from now on please don't comment on my posts and won't waste my time responding to your inane nonsense.

Now be a good boy and fuc? Off.
Leave it out. We've had our differences on here as to the reasons why we've had an awful summer at the club. What's done is done. I think all are united in belief in Ron and we have definitely acquired some good players with others to prove themselves. It's time to move on otherwise the factions will continue no matter what is happening on the pitch.
This blokes a fuc?ng idiot accusing people of changing user names and abusing other users, he is a total piece.

Their are a lot of people on here that post good stuff you don't always agree with it well ain't that life, but their are a few and this guy is one that just like to get under you skin.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being. But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month? Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.[/p][/quote]Take a happy pill FFS[/p][/quote]And what was your login 6 months ago fascia123?[/p][/quote]The same as it was three years ago when I joined, I have not participated for the last couple of years because of idiots like you that don't come on here to debate football issues, they just come on to argue, I read your stuff sometimes and think you spend more time arguing with yourself, I don't like to resort to rudeness but you just pis? Me off.[/p][/quote]Not participated for 3 years, well you are certainly making up for lost time, 14/15 posts on this thread alone around 17% of all today's posts are from you. it's the same everyday..... you just have to say something don't you? Back slapping all you agree with and abusing all those you disagree with.[/p][/quote]There you go thinking again, it really is a waste of time, I said a couple of years, I know it's difficult but please keep up. I have posted a lot recently as I have been on holiday and it has been a time in the club I have supported since a boy that a lot has transpired. Seems a funny smell I wondered what it was but have just worked it out you have had your socks off working out those percentages, well done that's very good. I never abuse anyone only offer alternative thread of thoughts, as I say it really is a waste of time responding so from now on please don't comment on my posts and won't waste my time responding to your inane nonsense. Now be a good boy and fuc? Off.[/p][/quote]Leave it out. We've had our differences on here as to the reasons why we've had an awful summer at the club. What's done is done. I think all are united in belief in Ron and we have definitely acquired some good players with others to prove themselves. It's time to move on otherwise the factions will continue no matter what is happening on the pitch.[/p][/quote]This blokes a fuc?ng idiot accusing people of changing user names and abusing other users, he is a total piece. Their are a lot of people on here that post good stuff you don't always agree with it well ain't that life, but their are a few and this guy is one that just like to get under you skin. fascia123
  • Score: 4

10:17pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Invidia says...

Leave it out. We've had our differences on here as to the reasons why we've had an awful summer at the club. What's done is done. I think all are united in belief in Ron and we have definitely acquired some good players with others to prove themselves. It's time to move on otherwise the factions will continue no matter what is happening on the pitch.

WELL SAID SEED

but he does seem to think that he has to monopolise this thread much like another who has curbed himself of late
Leave it out. We've had our differences on here as to the reasons why we've had an awful summer at the club. What's done is done. I think all are united in belief in Ron and we have definitely acquired some good players with others to prove themselves. It's time to move on otherwise the factions will continue no matter what is happening on the pitch. WELL SAID SEED but he does seem to think that he has to monopolise this thread much like another who has curbed himself of late Invidia
  • Score: -3

10:24pm Wed 20 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Invidia wrote:
Leave it out. We've had our differences on here as to the reasons why we've had an awful summer at the club. What's done is done. I think all are united in belief in Ron and we have definitely acquired some good players with others to prove themselves. It's time to move on otherwise the factions will continue no matter what is happening on the pitch.

WELL SAID SEED

but he does seem to think that he has to monopolise this thread much like another who has curbed himself of late
Who is monopolising?
[quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: Leave it out. We've had our differences on here as to the reasons why we've had an awful summer at the club. What's done is done. I think all are united in belief in Ron and we have definitely acquired some good players with others to prove themselves. It's time to move on otherwise the factions will continue no matter what is happening on the pitch. WELL SAID SEED but he does seem to think that he has to monopolise this thread much like another who has curbed himself of late[/p][/quote]Who is monopolising? fascia123
  • Score: 1

10:31pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

fascia123 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being.
But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month?
Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.
Take a happy pill FFS
And what was your login 6 months ago fascia123?
The same as it was three years ago when I joined, I have not participated for the last couple of years because of idiots like you that don't come on here to debate football issues, they just come on to argue, I read your stuff sometimes and think you spend more time arguing with yourself, I don't like to resort to rudeness but you just pis? Me off.
Not participated for 3 years, well you are certainly making up for lost time, 14/15 posts on this thread alone around 17% of all today's posts are from you. it's the same everyday..... you just have to say something don't you?

Back slapping all you agree with and abusing all those you disagree with.
There you go thinking again, it really is a waste of time, I said a couple of years, I know it's difficult but please keep up.

I have posted a lot recently as I have been on holiday and it has been a time in the club I have supported since a boy that a lot has transpired.

Seems a funny smell I wondered what it was but have just worked it out you have had your socks off working out those percentages, well done that's very good.

I never abuse anyone only offer alternative thread of thoughts, as I say it really is a waste of time responding so from now on please don't comment on my posts and won't waste my time responding to your inane nonsense.

Now be a good boy and fuc? Off.
Leave it out. We've had our differences on here as to the reasons why we've had an awful summer at the club. What's done is done. I think all are united in belief in Ron and we have definitely acquired some good players with others to prove themselves. It's time to move on otherwise the factions will continue no matter what is happening on the pitch.
This blokes a fuc?ng idiot accusing people of changing user names and abusing other users, he is a total piece.

Their are a lot of people on here that post good stuff you don't always agree with it well ain't that life, but their are a few and this guy is one that just like to get under you skin.
I see you've chosen to ignore my plea :)
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being. But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month? Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.[/p][/quote]Take a happy pill FFS[/p][/quote]And what was your login 6 months ago fascia123?[/p][/quote]The same as it was three years ago when I joined, I have not participated for the last couple of years because of idiots like you that don't come on here to debate football issues, they just come on to argue, I read your stuff sometimes and think you spend more time arguing with yourself, I don't like to resort to rudeness but you just pis? Me off.[/p][/quote]Not participated for 3 years, well you are certainly making up for lost time, 14/15 posts on this thread alone around 17% of all today's posts are from you. it's the same everyday..... you just have to say something don't you? Back slapping all you agree with and abusing all those you disagree with.[/p][/quote]There you go thinking again, it really is a waste of time, I said a couple of years, I know it's difficult but please keep up. I have posted a lot recently as I have been on holiday and it has been a time in the club I have supported since a boy that a lot has transpired. Seems a funny smell I wondered what it was but have just worked it out you have had your socks off working out those percentages, well done that's very good. I never abuse anyone only offer alternative thread of thoughts, as I say it really is a waste of time responding so from now on please don't comment on my posts and won't waste my time responding to your inane nonsense. Now be a good boy and fuc? Off.[/p][/quote]Leave it out. We've had our differences on here as to the reasons why we've had an awful summer at the club. What's done is done. I think all are united in belief in Ron and we have definitely acquired some good players with others to prove themselves. It's time to move on otherwise the factions will continue no matter what is happening on the pitch.[/p][/quote]This blokes a fuc?ng idiot accusing people of changing user names and abusing other users, he is a total piece. Their are a lot of people on here that post good stuff you don't always agree with it well ain't that life, but their are a few and this guy is one that just like to get under you skin.[/p][/quote]I see you've chosen to ignore my plea :) Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 0

10:33pm Wed 20 Aug 14

St Van Roetford says...

*Wanders downstairs all bleary eyed*

Oh, mum and dad are arguing again. WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE KIDS?
*Wanders downstairs all bleary eyed* Oh, mum and dad are arguing again. WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE KIDS? St Van Roetford
  • Score: 0

10:36pm Wed 20 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being.
But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month?
Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.
Take a happy pill FFS
And what was your login 6 months ago fascia123?
The same as it was three years ago when I joined, I have not participated for the last couple of years because of idiots like you that don't come on here to debate football issues, they just come on to argue, I read your stuff sometimes and think you spend more time arguing with yourself, I don't like to resort to rudeness but you just pis? Me off.
Not participated for 3 years, well you are certainly making up for lost time, 14/15 posts on this thread alone around 17% of all today's posts are from you. it's the same everyday..... you just have to say something don't you?

Back slapping all you agree with and abusing all those you disagree with.
There you go thinking again, it really is a waste of time, I said a couple of years, I know it's difficult but please keep up.

I have posted a lot recently as I have been on holiday and it has been a time in the club I have supported since a boy that a lot has transpired.

Seems a funny smell I wondered what it was but have just worked it out you have had your socks off working out those percentages, well done that's very good.

I never abuse anyone only offer alternative thread of thoughts, as I say it really is a waste of time responding so from now on please don't comment on my posts and won't waste my time responding to your inane nonsense.

Now be a good boy and fuc? Off.
Leave it out. We've had our differences on here as to the reasons why we've had an awful summer at the club. What's done is done. I think all are united in belief in Ron and we have definitely acquired some good players with others to prove themselves. It's time to move on otherwise the factions will continue no matter what is happening on the pitch.
This blokes a fuc?ng idiot accusing people of changing user names and abusing other users, he is a total piece.

Their are a lot of people on here that post good stuff you don't always agree with it well ain't that life, but their are a few and this guy is one that just like to get under you skin.
I see you've chosen to ignore my plea :)
:-)
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being. But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month? Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.[/p][/quote]Take a happy pill FFS[/p][/quote]And what was your login 6 months ago fascia123?[/p][/quote]The same as it was three years ago when I joined, I have not participated for the last couple of years because of idiots like you that don't come on here to debate football issues, they just come on to argue, I read your stuff sometimes and think you spend more time arguing with yourself, I don't like to resort to rudeness but you just pis? Me off.[/p][/quote]Not participated for 3 years, well you are certainly making up for lost time, 14/15 posts on this thread alone around 17% of all today's posts are from you. it's the same everyday..... you just have to say something don't you? Back slapping all you agree with and abusing all those you disagree with.[/p][/quote]There you go thinking again, it really is a waste of time, I said a couple of years, I know it's difficult but please keep up. I have posted a lot recently as I have been on holiday and it has been a time in the club I have supported since a boy that a lot has transpired. Seems a funny smell I wondered what it was but have just worked it out you have had your socks off working out those percentages, well done that's very good. I never abuse anyone only offer alternative thread of thoughts, as I say it really is a waste of time responding so from now on please don't comment on my posts and won't waste my time responding to your inane nonsense. Now be a good boy and fuc? Off.[/p][/quote]Leave it out. We've had our differences on here as to the reasons why we've had an awful summer at the club. What's done is done. I think all are united in belief in Ron and we have definitely acquired some good players with others to prove themselves. It's time to move on otherwise the factions will continue no matter what is happening on the pitch.[/p][/quote]This blokes a fuc?ng idiot accusing people of changing user names and abusing other users, he is a total piece. Their are a lot of people on here that post good stuff you don't always agree with it well ain't that life, but their are a few and this guy is one that just like to get under you skin.[/p][/quote]I see you've chosen to ignore my plea :)[/p][/quote]:-) fascia123
  • Score: 1

10:56pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

fascia123 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being.
But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month?
Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.
Take a happy pill FFS
And what was your login 6 months ago fascia123?
The same as it was three years ago when I joined, I have not participated for the last couple of years because of idiots like you that don't come on here to debate football issues, they just come on to argue, I read your stuff sometimes and think you spend more time arguing with yourself, I don't like to resort to rudeness but you just pis? Me off.
Not participated for 3 years, well you are certainly making up for lost time, 14/15 posts on this thread alone around 17% of all today's posts are from you. it's the same everyday..... you just have to say something don't you?

Back slapping all you agree with and abusing all those you disagree with.
There you go thinking again, it really is a waste of time, I said a couple of years, I know it's difficult but please keep up.

I have posted a lot recently as I have been on holiday and it has been a time in the club I have supported since a boy that a lot has transpired.

Seems a funny smell I wondered what it was but have just worked it out you have had your socks off working out those percentages, well done that's very good.

I never abuse anyone only offer alternative thread of thoughts, as I say it really is a waste of time responding so from now on please don't comment on my posts and won't waste my time responding to your inane nonsense.

Now be a good boy and fuc? Off.
Leave it out. We've had our differences on here as to the reasons why we've had an awful summer at the club. What's done is done. I think all are united in belief in Ron and we have definitely acquired some good players with others to prove themselves. It's time to move on otherwise the factions will continue no matter what is happening on the pitch.
This blokes a fuc?ng idiot accusing people of changing user names and abusing other users, he is a total piece.

Their are a lot of people on here that post good stuff you don't always agree with it well ain't that life, but their are a few and this guy is one that just like to get under you skin.
I see you've chosen to ignore my plea :)
:-)
Blessed are the peacemakers.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being. But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month? Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.[/p][/quote]Take a happy pill FFS[/p][/quote]And what was your login 6 months ago fascia123?[/p][/quote]The same as it was three years ago when I joined, I have not participated for the last couple of years because of idiots like you that don't come on here to debate football issues, they just come on to argue, I read your stuff sometimes and think you spend more time arguing with yourself, I don't like to resort to rudeness but you just pis? Me off.[/p][/quote]Not participated for 3 years, well you are certainly making up for lost time, 14/15 posts on this thread alone around 17% of all today's posts are from you. it's the same everyday..... you just have to say something don't you? Back slapping all you agree with and abusing all those you disagree with.[/p][/quote]There you go thinking again, it really is a waste of time, I said a couple of years, I know it's difficult but please keep up. I have posted a lot recently as I have been on holiday and it has been a time in the club I have supported since a boy that a lot has transpired. Seems a funny smell I wondered what it was but have just worked it out you have had your socks off working out those percentages, well done that's very good. I never abuse anyone only offer alternative thread of thoughts, as I say it really is a waste of time responding so from now on please don't comment on my posts and won't waste my time responding to your inane nonsense. Now be a good boy and fuc? Off.[/p][/quote]Leave it out. We've had our differences on here as to the reasons why we've had an awful summer at the club. What's done is done. I think all are united in belief in Ron and we have definitely acquired some good players with others to prove themselves. It's time to move on otherwise the factions will continue no matter what is happening on the pitch.[/p][/quote]This blokes a fuc?ng idiot accusing people of changing user names and abusing other users, he is a total piece. Their are a lot of people on here that post good stuff you don't always agree with it well ain't that life, but their are a few and this guy is one that just like to get under you skin.[/p][/quote]I see you've chosen to ignore my plea :)[/p][/quote]:-)[/p][/quote]Blessed are the peacemakers. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

10:58pm Wed 20 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being.
But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month?
Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.
Take a happy pill FFS
And what was your login 6 months ago fascia123?
The same as it was three years ago when I joined, I have not participated for the last couple of years because of idiots like you that don't come on here to debate football issues, they just come on to argue, I read your stuff sometimes and think you spend more time arguing with yourself, I don't like to resort to rudeness but you just pis? Me off.
Not participated for 3 years, well you are certainly making up for lost time, 14/15 posts on this thread alone around 17% of all today's posts are from you. it's the same everyday..... you just have to say something don't you?

Back slapping all you agree with and abusing all those you disagree with.
There you go thinking again, it really is a waste of time, I said a couple of years, I know it's difficult but please keep up.

I have posted a lot recently as I have been on holiday and it has been a time in the club I have supported since a boy that a lot has transpired.

Seems a funny smell I wondered what it was but have just worked it out you have had your socks off working out those percentages, well done that's very good.

I never abuse anyone only offer alternative thread of thoughts, as I say it really is a waste of time responding so from now on please don't comment on my posts and won't waste my time responding to your inane nonsense.

Now be a good boy and fuc? Off.
Leave it out. We've had our differences on here as to the reasons why we've had an awful summer at the club. What's done is done. I think all are united in belief in Ron and we have definitely acquired some good players with others to prove themselves. It's time to move on otherwise the factions will continue no matter what is happening on the pitch.
This blokes a fuc?ng idiot accusing people of changing user names and abusing other users, he is a total piece.

Their are a lot of people on here that post good stuff you don't always agree with it well ain't that life, but their are a few and this guy is one that just like to get under you skin.
I see you've chosen to ignore my plea :)
Costa Gaz or Costa Baz? I am sure one has the Christian name of Barry, but which one is it?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being. But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month? Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.[/p][/quote]Take a happy pill FFS[/p][/quote]And what was your login 6 months ago fascia123?[/p][/quote]The same as it was three years ago when I joined, I have not participated for the last couple of years because of idiots like you that don't come on here to debate football issues, they just come on to argue, I read your stuff sometimes and think you spend more time arguing with yourself, I don't like to resort to rudeness but you just pis? Me off.[/p][/quote]Not participated for 3 years, well you are certainly making up for lost time, 14/15 posts on this thread alone around 17% of all today's posts are from you. it's the same everyday..... you just have to say something don't you? Back slapping all you agree with and abusing all those you disagree with.[/p][/quote]There you go thinking again, it really is a waste of time, I said a couple of years, I know it's difficult but please keep up. I have posted a lot recently as I have been on holiday and it has been a time in the club I have supported since a boy that a lot has transpired. Seems a funny smell I wondered what it was but have just worked it out you have had your socks off working out those percentages, well done that's very good. I never abuse anyone only offer alternative thread of thoughts, as I say it really is a waste of time responding so from now on please don't comment on my posts and won't waste my time responding to your inane nonsense. Now be a good boy and fuc? Off.[/p][/quote]Leave it out. We've had our differences on here as to the reasons why we've had an awful summer at the club. What's done is done. I think all are united in belief in Ron and we have definitely acquired some good players with others to prove themselves. It's time to move on otherwise the factions will continue no matter what is happening on the pitch.[/p][/quote]This blokes a fuc?ng idiot accusing people of changing user names and abusing other users, he is a total piece. Their are a lot of people on here that post good stuff you don't always agree with it well ain't that life, but their are a few and this guy is one that just like to get under you skin.[/p][/quote]I see you've chosen to ignore my plea :)[/p][/quote]Costa Gaz or Costa Baz? I am sure one has the Christian name of Barry, but which one is it? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

11:12pm Wed 20 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Rising_Son wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being.
But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month?
Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.
Take a happy pill FFS
And what was your login 6 months ago fascia123?
The same as it was three years ago when I joined, I have not participated for the last couple of years because of idiots like you that don't come on here to debate football issues, they just come on to argue, I read your stuff sometimes and think you spend more time arguing with yourself, I don't like to resort to rudeness but you just pis? Me off.
Not participated for 3 years, well you are certainly making up for lost time, 14/15 posts on this thread alone around 17% of all today's posts are from you. it's the same everyday..... you just have to say something don't you?

Back slapping all you agree with and abusing all those you disagree with.
There you go thinking again, it really is a waste of time, I said a couple of years, I know it's difficult but please keep up.

I have posted a lot recently as I have been on holiday and it has been a time in the club I have supported since a boy that a lot has transpired.

Seems a funny smell I wondered what it was but have just worked it out you have had your socks off working out those percentages, well done that's very good.

I never abuse anyone only offer alternative thread of thoughts, as I say it really is a waste of time responding so from now on please don't comment on my posts and won't waste my time responding to your inane nonsense.

Now be a good boy and fuc? Off.
Leave it out. We've had our differences on here as to the reasons why we've had an awful summer at the club. What's done is done. I think all are united in belief in Ron and we have definitely acquired some good players with others to prove themselves. It's time to move on otherwise the factions will continue no matter what is happening on the pitch.
This blokes a fuc?ng idiot accusing people of changing user names and abusing other users, he is a total piece.

Their are a lot of people on here that post good stuff you don't always agree with it well ain't that life, but their are a few and this guy is one that just like to get under you skin.
I see you've chosen to ignore my plea :)
:-)
Blessed are the peacemakers.
Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth, if that's all right with everybody? Except for Brian who just shouts a lot.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being. But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month? Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.[/p][/quote]Take a happy pill FFS[/p][/quote]And what was your login 6 months ago fascia123?[/p][/quote]The same as it was three years ago when I joined, I have not participated for the last couple of years because of idiots like you that don't come on here to debate football issues, they just come on to argue, I read your stuff sometimes and think you spend more time arguing with yourself, I don't like to resort to rudeness but you just pis? Me off.[/p][/quote]Not participated for 3 years, well you are certainly making up for lost time, 14/15 posts on this thread alone around 17% of all today's posts are from you. it's the same everyday..... you just have to say something don't you? Back slapping all you agree with and abusing all those you disagree with.[/p][/quote]There you go thinking again, it really is a waste of time, I said a couple of years, I know it's difficult but please keep up. I have posted a lot recently as I have been on holiday and it has been a time in the club I have supported since a boy that a lot has transpired. Seems a funny smell I wondered what it was but have just worked it out you have had your socks off working out those percentages, well done that's very good. I never abuse anyone only offer alternative thread of thoughts, as I say it really is a waste of time responding so from now on please don't comment on my posts and won't waste my time responding to your inane nonsense. Now be a good boy and fuc? Off.[/p][/quote]Leave it out. We've had our differences on here as to the reasons why we've had an awful summer at the club. What's done is done. I think all are united in belief in Ron and we have definitely acquired some good players with others to prove themselves. It's time to move on otherwise the factions will continue no matter what is happening on the pitch.[/p][/quote]This blokes a fuc?ng idiot accusing people of changing user names and abusing other users, he is a total piece. Their are a lot of people on here that post good stuff you don't always agree with it well ain't that life, but their are a few and this guy is one that just like to get under you skin.[/p][/quote]I see you've chosen to ignore my plea :)[/p][/quote]:-)[/p][/quote]Blessed are the peacemakers.[/p][/quote]Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth, if that's all right with everybody? Except for Brian who just shouts a lot. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

11:12pm Wed 20 Aug 14

BowesSaint says...

Dubai-saints89 wrote:
if we Finnish above spurs and enter into Europe via the league/cup i am sure he would stay. and so would everyone else. top players leave to try and accomplish bigger things i.e chambers, already a winner. so we cant fault them for that, so i understand why spider wants to leave, nothing against the club/fans. :) so lets hope for a very successful season. COYR's
I think if we wanted to " Finnish" above Spurs we'd need Antii Niemi back again !!
[quote][p][bold]Dubai-saints89[/bold] wrote: if we Finnish above spurs and enter into Europe via the league/cup i am sure he would stay. and so would everyone else. top players leave to try and accomplish bigger things i.e chambers, already a winner. so we cant fault them for that, so i understand why spider wants to leave, nothing against the club/fans. :) so lets hope for a very successful season. COYR's[/p][/quote]I think if we wanted to " Finnish" above Spurs we'd need Antii Niemi back again !! BowesSaint
  • Score: 3

11:30pm Wed 20 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Invidia wrote:
Leave it out. We've had our differences on here as to the reasons why we've had an awful summer at the club. What's done is done. I think all are united in belief in Ron and we have definitely acquired some good players with others to prove themselves. It's time to move on otherwise the factions will continue no matter what is happening on the pitch.

WELL SAID SEED

but he does seem to think that he has to monopolise this thread much like another who has curbed himself of late
I guess you mean me? I was fighting a lone battle for a while, I seem to have a few allies these days, saying what I would be saying, but it is amusing to see neggies attacking each other rather slagging off than the Club!
[quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: Leave it out. We've had our differences on here as to the reasons why we've had an awful summer at the club. What's done is done. I think all are united in belief in Ron and we have definitely acquired some good players with others to prove themselves. It's time to move on otherwise the factions will continue no matter what is happening on the pitch. WELL SAID SEED but he does seem to think that he has to monopolise this thread much like another who has curbed himself of late[/p][/quote]I guess you mean me? I was fighting a lone battle for a while, I seem to have a few allies these days, saying what I would be saying, but it is amusing to see neggies attacking each other rather slagging off than the Club! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

11:35pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Invidia says...

What's a neggie? Is it someone who does not agree with your opinion or is it a Saints supporter?
What's a neggie? Is it someone who does not agree with your opinion or is it a Saints supporter? Invidia
  • Score: -2

11:44pm Wed 20 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Invidia wrote:
What's a neggie? Is it someone who does not agree with your opinion or is it a Saints supporter?
It's someone that gives me a thumbs down as soon as they see my sign on!
[quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: What's a neggie? Is it someone who does not agree with your opinion or is it a Saints supporter?[/p][/quote]It's someone that gives me a thumbs down as soon as they see my sign on! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -4

11:45pm Wed 20 Aug 14

SaintChristopher says...

Pretty sure that we could do better than Andros Townsend for £10 million and absolutely certain that I want us to have nothing to do with Spurs, especially if it encourages further interest in Spider. Nathan Redmond would be a much better and more sensibly priced winger option, and I also like Callum McManaman at Wigan. A loan option with the option to buy might also be a low-risk way of bolstering the squad without being taken to the cleaners as everyone knows we (should) have cash to burn from the recent player sales - possibly Salah from Chelsea, Gnabry from Arsenal, Zaha from Man U, thoughts?
Pretty sure that we could do better than Andros Townsend for £10 million and absolutely certain that I want us to have nothing to do with Spurs, especially if it encourages further interest in Spider. Nathan Redmond would be a much better and more sensibly priced winger option, and I also like Callum McManaman at Wigan. A loan option with the option to buy might also be a low-risk way of bolstering the squad without being taken to the cleaners as everyone knows we (should) have cash to burn from the recent player sales - possibly Salah from Chelsea, Gnabry from Arsenal, Zaha from Man U, thoughts? SaintChristopher
  • Score: 0

11:48pm Wed 20 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

all this recent turmoil after a period of equilibrium I wonder is their someone amidst with a couple of sheds disguised as a coffee shop?
all this recent turmoil after a period of equilibrium I wonder is their someone amidst with a couple of sheds disguised as a coffee shop? fascia123
  • Score: 2

12:10am Thu 21 Aug 14

Invidia says...

OSPREYSAINT says...

Oh I see it is someone who does not agree with your opinions.

Thanks for clearing that up
OSPREYSAINT says... Oh I see it is someone who does not agree with your opinions. Thanks for clearing that up Invidia
  • Score: 0

12:13am Thu 21 Aug 14

Invidia says...

OSPREYSAINT says...

Their
OSPREYSAINT says... Their Invidia
  • Score: -1

12:14am Thu 21 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Invidia wrote:
OSPREYSAINT says...

Oh I see it is someone who does not agree with your opinions.

Thanks for clearing that up
If they were to give a thumbs down before reading the post, how is that someone who does not agree with your opinion?
[quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: OSPREYSAINT says... Oh I see it is someone who does not agree with your opinions. Thanks for clearing that up[/p][/quote]If they were to give a thumbs down before reading the post, how is that someone who does not agree with your opinion? fascia123
  • Score: 1

12:17am Thu 21 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being.
But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month?
Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.
Take a happy pill FFS
And what was your login 6 months ago fascia123?
The same as it was three years ago when I joined, I have not participated for the last couple of years because of idiots like you that don't come on here to debate football issues, they just come on to argue, I read your stuff sometimes and think you spend more time arguing with yourself, I don't like to resort to rudeness but you just pis? Me off.
Not participated for 3 years, well you are certainly making up for lost time, 14/15 posts on this thread alone around 17% of all today's posts are from you. it's the same everyday..... you just have to say something don't you?

Back slapping all you agree with and abusing all those you disagree with.
There you go thinking again, it really is a waste of time, I said a couple of years, I know it's difficult but please keep up.

I have posted a lot recently as I have been on holiday and it has been a time in the club I have supported since a boy that a lot has transpired.

Seems a funny smell I wondered what it was but have just worked it out you have had your socks off working out those percentages, well done that's very good.

I never abuse anyone only offer alternative thread of thoughts, as I say it really is a waste of time responding so from now on please don't comment on my posts and won't waste my time responding to your inane nonsense.

Now be a good boy and fuc? Off.
Leave it out. We've had our differences on here as to the reasons why we've had an awful summer at the club. What's done is done. I think all are united in belief in Ron and we have definitely acquired some good players with others to prove themselves. It's time to move on otherwise the factions will continue no matter what is happening on the pitch.
This blokes a fuc?ng idiot accusing people of changing user names and abusing other users, he is a total piece.

Their are a lot of people on here that post good stuff you don't always agree with it well ain't that life, but their are a few and this guy is one that just like to get under you skin.
I see you've chosen to ignore my plea :)
Costa Gaz or Costa Baz? I am sure one has the Christian name of Barry, but which one is it?
I like Gaz,but then again,I like Baz,but which one is better?
There's only one way to find out...fight!!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being. But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month? Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.[/p][/quote]Take a happy pill FFS[/p][/quote]And what was your login 6 months ago fascia123?[/p][/quote]The same as it was three years ago when I joined, I have not participated for the last couple of years because of idiots like you that don't come on here to debate football issues, they just come on to argue, I read your stuff sometimes and think you spend more time arguing with yourself, I don't like to resort to rudeness but you just pis? Me off.[/p][/quote]Not participated for 3 years, well you are certainly making up for lost time, 14/15 posts on this thread alone around 17% of all today's posts are from you. it's the same everyday..... you just have to say something don't you? Back slapping all you agree with and abusing all those you disagree with.[/p][/quote]There you go thinking again, it really is a waste of time, I said a couple of years, I know it's difficult but please keep up. I have posted a lot recently as I have been on holiday and it has been a time in the club I have supported since a boy that a lot has transpired. Seems a funny smell I wondered what it was but have just worked it out you have had your socks off working out those percentages, well done that's very good. I never abuse anyone only offer alternative thread of thoughts, as I say it really is a waste of time responding so from now on please don't comment on my posts and won't waste my time responding to your inane nonsense. Now be a good boy and fuc? Off.[/p][/quote]Leave it out. We've had our differences on here as to the reasons why we've had an awful summer at the club. What's done is done. I think all are united in belief in Ron and we have definitely acquired some good players with others to prove themselves. It's time to move on otherwise the factions will continue no matter what is happening on the pitch.[/p][/quote]This blokes a fuc?ng idiot accusing people of changing user names and abusing other users, he is a total piece. Their are a lot of people on here that post good stuff you don't always agree with it well ain't that life, but their are a few and this guy is one that just like to get under you skin.[/p][/quote]I see you've chosen to ignore my plea :)[/p][/quote]Costa Gaz or Costa Baz? I am sure one has the Christian name of Barry, but which one is it?[/p][/quote]I like Gaz,but then again,I like Baz,but which one is better? There's only one way to find out...fight!! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

12:18am Thu 21 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Invidia wrote:
What's a neggie? Is it someone who does not agree with your opinion or is it a Saints supporter?
A neggie can be a Saints fan, who doesn't support the team when things aren't going too well.
[quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: What's a neggie? Is it someone who does not agree with your opinion or is it a Saints supporter?[/p][/quote]A neggie can be a Saints fan, who doesn't support the team when things aren't going too well. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

12:22am Thu 21 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Invidia wrote:
OSPREYSAINT says...

Their
Their?
[quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: OSPREYSAINT says... Their[/p][/quote]Their? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

12:24am Thu 21 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

If 1 is a total neggie and 10 is a full blown Happy Clapper, where do you see yourself out of ten?
If 1 is a total neggie and 10 is a full blown Happy Clapper, where do you see yourself out of ten? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

12:27am Thu 21 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
If 1 is a total neggie and 10 is a full blown Happy Clapper, where do you see yourself out of ten?
9
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: If 1 is a total neggie and 10 is a full blown Happy Clapper, where do you see yourself out of ten?[/p][/quote]9 fascia123
  • Score: 2

12:27am Thu 21 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Invidia wrote:
What's a neggie? Is it someone who does not agree with your opinion or is it a Saints supporter?
A neggie can be a Saints fan, who doesn't support the team when things aren't going too well.
Or they can be light and dark inverted film images.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: What's a neggie? Is it someone who does not agree with your opinion or is it a Saints supporter?[/p][/quote]A neggie can be a Saints fan, who doesn't support the team when things aren't going too well.[/p][/quote]Or they can be light and dark inverted film images. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

12:31am Thu 21 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Invidia wrote:
What's a neggie? Is it someone who does not agree with your opinion or is it a Saints supporter?
A neggie can be a Saints fan, who doesn't support the team when things aren't going too well.
Or they can be light and dark inverted film images.
Took some pics of the devil, all I got was prints of darkness.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: What's a neggie? Is it someone who does not agree with your opinion or is it a Saints supporter?[/p][/quote]A neggie can be a Saints fan, who doesn't support the team when things aren't going too well.[/p][/quote]Or they can be light and dark inverted film images.[/p][/quote]Took some pics of the devil, all I got was prints of darkness. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

12:36am Thu 21 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

What we want is another stealth signing which divides opinions right down the middle, give us something to waffle on about.
What we want is another stealth signing which divides opinions right down the middle, give us something to waffle on about. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

12:39am Thu 21 Aug 14

Invidia says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Invidia wrote:
What's a neggie? Is it someone who does not agree with your opinion or is it a Saints supporter?
A neggie can be a Saints fan, who doesn't support the team when things aren't going too well.
I think I am getting your drift,
So if a Saints player mis-hits a pass or misses a penalty ( which could happen now) we are supposed to clap them are we, if that's the way you see it don't go in the Northam end and try.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: What's a neggie? Is it someone who does not agree with your opinion or is it a Saints supporter?[/p][/quote]A neggie can be a Saints fan, who doesn't support the team when things aren't going too well.[/p][/quote]I think I am getting your drift, So if a Saints player mis-hits a pass or misses a penalty ( which could happen now) we are supposed to clap them are we, if that's the way you see it don't go in the Northam end and try. Invidia
  • Score: -1

12:45am Thu 21 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
What we want is another stealth signing which divides opinions right down the middle, give us something to waffle on about.
There's nothing on the radar as yet.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: What we want is another stealth signing which divides opinions right down the middle, give us something to waffle on about.[/p][/quote]There's nothing on the radar as yet. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

10:58am Thu 21 Aug 14

Beer Monster says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
saint phil wrote:
rrrrrrrr
Oive gorra bran'new combine 'arvester!
My Mum had that as her ringtone before she passed on. Awesome lady.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint phil[/bold] wrote: rrrrrrrr[/p][/quote]Oive gorra bran'new combine 'arvester![/p][/quote]My Mum had that as her ringtone before she passed on. Awesome lady. Beer Monster
  • Score: 0

11:06am Thu 21 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Invidia wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Invidia wrote:
What's a neggie? Is it someone who does not agree with your opinion or is it a Saints supporter?
A neggie can be a Saints fan, who doesn't support the team when things aren't going too well.
I think I am getting your drift,
So if a Saints player mis-hits a pass or misses a penalty ( which could happen now) we are supposed to clap them are we, if that's the way you see it don't go in the Northam end and try.
Not talking about games I am talking about negativity towards the Club, the owner, the Board, Les Reed in particular, and the manager. What you do at games is your affair, I never boo at our players, I do moan a lot when we get the usual run of bad luck, I do criticise referees from a biased point of view, but above all I always go to support the Club and the Team in whatever way I can. I can't sing, if I did I would probably clear the stadium.
[quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: What's a neggie? Is it someone who does not agree with your opinion or is it a Saints supporter?[/p][/quote]A neggie can be a Saints fan, who doesn't support the team when things aren't going too well.[/p][/quote]I think I am getting your drift, So if a Saints player mis-hits a pass or misses a penalty ( which could happen now) we are supposed to clap them are we, if that's the way you see it don't go in the Northam end and try.[/p][/quote]Not talking about games I am talking about negativity towards the Club, the owner, the Board, Les Reed in particular, and the manager. What you do at games is your affair, I never boo at our players, I do moan a lot when we get the usual run of bad luck, I do criticise referees from a biased point of view, but above all I always go to support the Club and the Team in whatever way I can. I can't sing, if I did I would probably clear the stadium. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

5:06pm Thu 21 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being.
But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month?
Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.
Take a happy pill FFS
And what was your login 6 months ago fascia123?
The same as it was three years ago when I joined, I have not participated for the last couple of years because of idiots like you that don't come on here to debate football issues, they just come on to argue, I read your stuff sometimes and think you spend more time arguing with yourself, I don't like to resort to rudeness but you just pis? Me off.
Not participated for 3 years, well you are certainly making up for lost time, 14/15 posts on this thread alone around 17% of all today's posts are from you. it's the same everyday..... you just have to say something don't you?

Back slapping all you agree with and abusing all those you disagree with.
There you go thinking again, it really is a waste of time, I said a couple of years, I know it's difficult but please keep up.

I have posted a lot recently as I have been on holiday and it has been a time in the club I have supported since a boy that a lot has transpired.

Seems a funny smell I wondered what it was but have just worked it out you have had your socks off working out those percentages, well done that's very good.

I never abuse anyone only offer alternative thread of thoughts, as I say it really is a waste of time responding so from now on please don't comment on my posts and won't waste my time responding to your inane nonsense.

Now be a good boy and fuc? Off.
Leave it out. We've had our differences on here as to the reasons why we've had an awful summer at the club. What's done is done. I think all are united in belief in Ron and we have definitely acquired some good players with others to prove themselves. It's time to move on otherwise the factions will continue no matter what is happening on the pitch.
seed ive purposefully taken a step back for a couple of days, only posting when it gets a bit late, because I`m fed up with certain posters who just seem to want to argue and post next to nothing about football.
gaz moaned the other day about myself and others going back through previous posts from long ago, calling them sad I believe (cant be bothered to check, even though I was included in the `hit list`). yet today he goes through a thread counting someones posts and bothers to work out percentages, double standards?
he has been on a sad crusade about people changing their login names and new logins being very pro new board and anti NC, basically saying these are either old users with extra login names or, as his wild imagination led him to believe, it is a `conspiracy` by either sfc or the echo. now gaz was told many, many times over the summer that most of the neggie logins were 1 or 2 people, probably fish or trolls, who were using multiple logins because they were getting a reaction from the likes of gaz, ie he thought he was in the majority. gaz wouldn't accept that these people, and I use that term lightly, were doing this, but now he believes that others are, is that because they are disagreeing with him and letting him know?
is it just coincidence that since a certain pretend aussie with 2 garden storage areas has been banned most of those new logins that appeared around the same time have also disappeared? did the echo get round to not just banning his login name but his IP address as well.
I`ve got no problem with most of the neggs on here and will argue/debate wit the best of them, you and i have had the odd debate on here this summer, whilst I may not agree with you I respect your opinion and know you have the clubs interest at heart, and are always willing to talk about the games and team. gaz however has descended into just taking swipes at other posters and rarely talks about the games or formations etc. if he wants to have digs at other posters, and hes had a few at me recently, hes got to expect people to defend themselves. that said I do my best to ignore gaz now as I cant be bothered with him anymore, but if he wants to have a dig at jls for not posting regularly then posting loads, I am pretty sure I could go back over the season and find that gaz wasn't that regular himself but has become rather prolific this summer. people in glass houses etc.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being. But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month? Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.[/p][/quote]Take a happy pill FFS[/p][/quote]And what was your login 6 months ago fascia123?[/p][/quote]The same as it was three years ago when I joined, I have not participated for the last couple of years because of idiots like you that don't come on here to debate football issues, they just come on to argue, I read your stuff sometimes and think you spend more time arguing with yourself, I don't like to resort to rudeness but you just pis? Me off.[/p][/quote]Not participated for 3 years, well you are certainly making up for lost time, 14/15 posts on this thread alone around 17% of all today's posts are from you. it's the same everyday..... you just have to say something don't you? Back slapping all you agree with and abusing all those you disagree with.[/p][/quote]There you go thinking again, it really is a waste of time, I said a couple of years, I know it's difficult but please keep up. I have posted a lot recently as I have been on holiday and it has been a time in the club I have supported since a boy that a lot has transpired. Seems a funny smell I wondered what it was but have just worked it out you have had your socks off working out those percentages, well done that's very good. I never abuse anyone only offer alternative thread of thoughts, as I say it really is a waste of time responding so from now on please don't comment on my posts and won't waste my time responding to your inane nonsense. Now be a good boy and fuc? Off.[/p][/quote]Leave it out. We've had our differences on here as to the reasons why we've had an awful summer at the club. What's done is done. I think all are united in belief in Ron and we have definitely acquired some good players with others to prove themselves. It's time to move on otherwise the factions will continue no matter what is happening on the pitch.[/p][/quote]seed ive purposefully taken a step back for a couple of days, only posting when it gets a bit late, because I`m fed up with certain posters who just seem to want to argue and post next to nothing about football. gaz moaned the other day about myself and others going back through previous posts from long ago, calling them sad I believe (cant be bothered to check, even though I was included in the `hit list`). yet today he goes through a thread counting someones posts and bothers to work out percentages, double standards? he has been on a sad crusade about people changing their login names and new logins being very pro new board and anti NC, basically saying these are either old users with extra login names or, as his wild imagination led him to believe, it is a `conspiracy` by either sfc or the echo. now gaz was told many, many times over the summer that most of the neggie logins were 1 or 2 people, probably fish or trolls, who were using multiple logins because they were getting a reaction from the likes of gaz, ie he thought he was in the majority. gaz wouldn't accept that these people, and I use that term lightly, were doing this, but now he believes that others are, is that because they are disagreeing with him and letting him know? is it just coincidence that since a certain pretend aussie with 2 garden storage areas has been banned most of those new logins that appeared around the same time have also disappeared? did the echo get round to not just banning his login name but his IP address as well. I`ve got no problem with most of the neggs on here and will argue/debate wit the best of them, you and i have had the odd debate on here this summer, whilst I may not agree with you I respect your opinion and know you have the clubs interest at heart, and are always willing to talk about the games and team. gaz however has descended into just taking swipes at other posters and rarely talks about the games or formations etc. if he wants to have digs at other posters, and hes had a few at me recently, hes got to expect people to defend themselves. that said I do my best to ignore gaz now as I cant be bothered with him anymore, but if he wants to have a dig at jls for not posting regularly then posting loads, I am pretty sure I could go back over the season and find that gaz wasn't that regular himself but has become rather prolific this summer. people in glass houses etc. de Heiligen paard 101
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de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being.
But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month?
Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.
Take a happy pill FFS
And what was your login 6 months ago fascia123?
The same as it was three years ago when I joined, I have not participated for the last couple of years because of idiots like you that don't come on here to debate football issues, they just come on to argue, I read your stuff sometimes and think you spend more time arguing with yourself, I don't like to resort to rudeness but you just pis? Me off.
Not participated for 3 years, well you are certainly making up for lost time, 14/15 posts on this thread alone around 17% of all today's posts are from you. it's the same everyday..... you just have to say something don't you?

Back slapping all you agree with and abusing all those you disagree with.
There you go thinking again, it really is a waste of time, I said a couple of years, I know it's difficult but please keep up.

I have posted a lot recently as I have been on holiday and it has been a time in the club I have supported since a boy that a lot has transpired.

Seems a funny smell I wondered what it was but have just worked it out you have had your socks off working out those percentages, well done that's very good.

I never abuse anyone only offer alternative thread of thoughts, as I say it really is a waste of time responding so from now on please don't comment on my posts and won't waste my time responding to your inane nonsense.

Now be a good boy and fuc? Off.
Leave it out. We've had our differences on here as to the reasons why we've had an awful summer at the club. What's done is done. I think all are united in belief in Ron and we have definitely acquired some good players with others to prove themselves. It's time to move on otherwise the factions will continue no matter what is happening on the pitch.
seed ive purposefully taken a step back for a couple of days, only posting when it gets a bit late, because I`m fed up with certain posters who just seem to want to argue and post next to nothing about football.
gaz moaned the other day about myself and others going back through previous posts from long ago, calling them sad I believe (cant be bothered to check, even though I was included in the `hit list`). yet today he goes through a thread counting someones posts and bothers to work out percentages, double standards?
he has been on a sad crusade about people changing their login names and new logins being very pro new board and anti NC, basically saying these are either old users with extra login names or, as his wild imagination led him to believe, it is a `conspiracy` by either sfc or the echo. now gaz was told many, many times over the summer that most of the neggie logins were 1 or 2 people, probably fish or trolls, who were using multiple logins because they were getting a reaction from the likes of gaz, ie he thought he was in the majority. gaz wouldn't accept that these people, and I use that term lightly, were doing this, but now he believes that others are, is that because they are disagreeing with him and letting him know?
is it just coincidence that since a certain pretend aussie with 2 garden storage areas has been banned most of those new logins that appeared around the same time have also disappeared? did the echo get round to not just banning his login name but his IP address as well.
I`ve got no problem with most of the neggs on here and will argue/debate wit the best of them, you and i have had the odd debate on here this summer, whilst I may not agree with you I respect your opinion and know you have the clubs interest at heart, and are always willing to talk about the games and team. gaz however has descended into just taking swipes at other posters and rarely talks about the games or formations etc. if he wants to have digs at other posters, and hes had a few at me recently, hes got to expect people to defend themselves. that said I do my best to ignore gaz now as I cant be bothered with him anymore, but if he wants to have a dig at jls for not posting regularly then posting loads, I am pretty sure I could go back over the season and find that gaz wasn't that regular himself but has become rather prolific this summer. people in glass houses etc.
I like what you say here, I suspect that we have at least one poster on here, who has been banned from every other site he has posted on, for just being a total plonker with his aggravating posts.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Great player, worth his weight in gold to Saints and it looks like we'll keep him for the time being. But where were are all the knuckle draggers who have been calling him names over the past month? Oh, changed your minds again, just like your logins..... , and you all accuse me of not supporting my team.... fickle, two-faced 2hats.[/p][/quote]Take a happy pill FFS[/p][/quote]And what was your login 6 months ago fascia123?[/p][/quote]The same as it was three years ago when I joined, I have not participated for the last couple of years because of idiots like you that don't come on here to debate football issues, they just come on to argue, I read your stuff sometimes and think you spend more time arguing with yourself, I don't like to resort to rudeness but you just pis? Me off.[/p][/quote]Not participated for 3 years, well you are certainly making up for lost time, 14/15 posts on this thread alone around 17% of all today's posts are from you. it's the same everyday..... you just have to say something don't you? Back slapping all you agree with and abusing all those you disagree with.[/p][/quote]There you go thinking again, it really is a waste of time, I said a couple of years, I know it's difficult but please keep up. I have posted a lot recently as I have been on holiday and it has been a time in the club I have supported since a boy that a lot has transpired. Seems a funny smell I wondered what it was but have just worked it out you have had your socks off working out those percentages, well done that's very good. I never abuse anyone only offer alternative thread of thoughts, as I say it really is a waste of time responding so from now on please don't comment on my posts and won't waste my time responding to your inane nonsense. Now be a good boy and fuc? Off.[/p][/quote]Leave it out. We've had our differences on here as to the reasons why we've had an awful summer at the club. What's done is done. I think all are united in belief in Ron and we have definitely acquired some good players with others to prove themselves. It's time to move on otherwise the factions will continue no matter what is happening on the pitch.[/p][/quote]seed ive purposefully taken a step back for a couple of days, only posting when it gets a bit late, because I`m fed up with certain posters who just seem to want to argue and post next to nothing about football. gaz moaned the other day about myself and others going back through previous posts from long ago, calling them sad I believe (cant be bothered to check, even though I was included in the `hit list`). yet today he goes through a thread counting someones posts and bothers to work out percentages, double standards? he has been on a sad crusade about people changing their login names and new logins being very pro new board and anti NC, basically saying these are either old users with extra login names or, as his wild imagination led him to believe, it is a `conspiracy` by either sfc or the echo. now gaz was told many, many times over the summer that most of the neggie logins were 1 or 2 people, probably fish or trolls, who were using multiple logins because they were getting a reaction from the likes of gaz, ie he thought he was in the majority. gaz wouldn't accept that these people, and I use that term lightly, were doing this, but now he believes that others are, is that because they are disagreeing with him and letting him know? is it just coincidence that since a certain pretend aussie with 2 garden storage areas has been banned most of those new logins that appeared around the same time have also disappeared? did the echo get round to not just banning his login name but his IP address as well. I`ve got no problem with most of the neggs on here and will argue/debate wit the best of them, you and i have had the odd debate on here this summer, whilst I may not agree with you I respect your opinion and know you have the clubs interest at heart, and are always willing to talk about the games and team. gaz however has descended into just taking swipes at other posters and rarely talks about the games or formations etc. if he wants to have digs at other posters, and hes had a few at me recently, hes got to expect people to defend themselves. that said I do my best to ignore gaz now as I cant be bothered with him anymore, but if he wants to have a dig at jls for not posting regularly then posting loads, I am pretty sure I could go back over the season and find that gaz wasn't that regular himself but has become rather prolific this summer. people in glass houses etc.[/p][/quote]I like what you say here, I suspect that we have at least one poster on here, who has been banned from every other site he has posted on, for just being a total plonker with his aggravating posts. 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