Jose Fonte says that Saints' performance at Anfield shows they are still a force to be reckoned with in the Premier League

Jose Fonte

Jose Fonte

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Jose Fonte believes Saints proved their doubters wrong at Anfield – even if they did not head home with the three points he felt they deserved.

After a summer of upheaval at St Mary’s, few people had given Ronald Koeman’s men much of a chance at Liverpool.

However, Saints produced a largely excellent performance that, particularly for long spells in the second half, had their opponents on the ropes. In the end, Liverpool triumphed 2-1, but it was a display from Saints that spoke of a team heading towards an encouraging future, rather than – as popular opinion might have had it – plunging deeper into a crisis.

Saints captain Fonte certainly believes there is plenty of cause for encouragement.

“We created the better chances,” he said.

“In the second half I think we came out very strong and, for sure, we deserved the three points, but sometimes it’s like this – you don’t get what you deserve.

“I think everyone was expecting us to come here and maybe get beat by a few, but we showed that we are still strong and we showed that we can compete against anyone, and that’s what we will try to do.”

Fonte added that, for all the talk of a summer “exodus” at Saints and the club being in “meltdown”, the players have never felt a sense of panic or concern.

“We trust ourselves,” said the centre-half. The first thing is that we believe in ourselves.

“I said before, we still have quality enough to have a strong season, and we showed that.

“We came here in the second half and we dominated a team that spent so much money and is going to fight for the title.

“So that gives us a lot of belief and encouragement for the next game and the season.”

Fonte was impressed with Saints’ new signings, with Fraser Forster, Ryan Bertrand, Dusan Tadic, Graziano Pelle and Shane Long all making their competitive debut for the club.

Tadic, in particular, was one who caught the eye with an exciting and creative performance being capped by his delicious back heel that set up Nathaniel Clyne’s equaliser.

“Dusan did very well, I thought Pelle competed well too,” said Fonte.

“He held the ball up well, he had some great movements and I think we can be happy with the new signings, for sure.”

Fonte admitted, however, that it wasn’t such a pleasurable experience to play against some of his former teammates, with both Rickie Lambert and Dejan Lovren featuring for Liverpool.

“It wasn’t nice, but that’s life, it’s football,” he said. “During the game we were enemies, but we move on and now outside we can have a chat.”

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1:41pm Mon 18 Aug 14

jerseysaint says...

once Koeman has a few more weeks with the players i think we will be very difficult to beat.
Also when Jay Rod comes back into the side the attack should be quite powerful. Hoping Ramirez will be given a chance as he may have a good year. I do think we need another strong defender.
once Koeman has a few more weeks with the players i think we will be very difficult to beat. Also when Jay Rod comes back into the side the attack should be quite powerful. Hoping Ramirez will be given a chance as he may have a good year. I do think we need another strong defender. jerseysaint
  • Score: 54

1:41pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

I feel excited about the season ahead after watching Saturday .............

From dread and despondency to excitement and anticipation !! (Thank god for spell checker !!)
I feel excited about the season ahead after watching Saturday ............. From dread and despondency to excitement and anticipation !! (Thank god for spell checker !!) Buddy SFC
  • Score: 33

1:45pm Mon 18 Aug 14

notaclue says...

Don't know exactly why but I felt sorry for Rickie yesterday, he will always remain our hero never theirs.
Also have to admit that if Lovren had been playing for SaintIs I think we would won the game so please Tintin go and buy concrete Ron before Sept 1st!!
Don't know exactly why but I felt sorry for Rickie yesterday, he will always remain our hero never theirs. Also have to admit that if Lovren had been playing for SaintIs I think we would won the game so please Tintin go and buy concrete Ron before Sept 1st!! notaclue
  • Score: 14

1:48pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Confucious says...

That was one of the best defeats I can remember.
That was one of the best defeats I can remember. Confucious
  • Score: 60

1:49pm Mon 18 Aug 14

notaclue says...

jerseysaint wrote:
once Koeman has a few more weeks with the players i think we will be very difficult to beat.
Also when Jay Rod comes back into the side the attack should be quite powerful. Hoping Ramirez will be given a chance as he may have a good year. I do think we need another strong defender.
I think Gaston has just about run out of chances - but maybe one more try.
[quote][p][bold]jerseysaint[/bold] wrote: once Koeman has a few more weeks with the players i think we will be very difficult to beat. Also when Jay Rod comes back into the side the attack should be quite powerful. Hoping Ramirez will be given a chance as he may have a good year. I do think we need another strong defender.[/p][/quote]I think Gaston has just about run out of chances - but maybe one more try. notaclue
  • Score: 5

2:03pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Saint Clements says...

notaclue wrote:
jerseysaint wrote:
once Koeman has a few more weeks with the players i think we will be very difficult to beat.
Also when Jay Rod comes back into the side the attack should be quite powerful. Hoping Ramirez will be given a chance as he may have a good year. I do think we need another strong defender.
I think Gaston has just about run out of chances - but maybe one more try.
Anyone know why he wasn't even on the bench?

Such a shame it's never happened for him, despite all the electrifying moments of promise he's never influenced games the way his lavish talent (and price tag) says he should.

Just think: Pelle, J-Rod, Gaston, Dusan, Long, all competing to play in front of Spider, Victor, JWP, Cork, Davis, Taider…

Pretty exciting, eh?
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jerseysaint[/bold] wrote: once Koeman has a few more weeks with the players i think we will be very difficult to beat. Also when Jay Rod comes back into the side the attack should be quite powerful. Hoping Ramirez will be given a chance as he may have a good year. I do think we need another strong defender.[/p][/quote]I think Gaston has just about run out of chances - but maybe one more try.[/p][/quote]Anyone know why he wasn't even on the bench? Such a shame it's never happened for him, despite all the electrifying moments of promise he's never influenced games the way his lavish talent (and price tag) says he should. Just think: Pelle, J-Rod, Gaston, Dusan, Long, all competing to play in front of Spider, Victor, JWP, Cork, Davis, Taider… Pretty exciting, eh? Saint Clements
  • Score: 15

2:03pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Graham, North of Watford says...

At leasr one thing's settled for definite.

Ronzo is now officialy "Tin-Tin"

Sounds good to me
At leasr one thing's settled for definite. Ronzo is now officialy "Tin-Tin" Sounds good to me Graham, North of Watford
  • Score: 7

2:12pm Mon 18 Aug 14

johnlennon_ar says...

First impression of Pella?
First impression of Pella? johnlennon_ar
  • Score: -2

2:17pm Mon 18 Aug 14

notaclue says...

johnlennon_ar wrote:
First impression of Pella?
Too early to judge Pelle on that performance, unlike Tadic who looks to have hit the ground running.
[quote][p][bold]johnlennon_ar[/bold] wrote: First impression of Pella?[/p][/quote]Too early to judge Pelle on that performance, unlike Tadic who looks to have hit the ground running. notaclue
  • Score: 17

2:21pm Mon 18 Aug 14

N Ireland Saint says...

Jose you were fantastic, couldn't ask for a better Captain, as said before never ever been happier in defeat than i was yesterday COYS !!!
Jose you were fantastic, couldn't ask for a better Captain, as said before never ever been happier in defeat than i was yesterday COYS !!! N Ireland Saint
  • Score: 24

2:22pm Mon 18 Aug 14

SaintsFan97 says...

I have to admit I was worrying that our team would take a while to gel together after all the changes over the summer, and that it would take a while before we started playing very well. I was proven completely wrong yesterday, the team played excellently--every player put in a great performance and, in the second half in particular, we completely outplayed a team which took 3 of our best players away from us this summer. The only criticism you could find was the common problem of not converting enough chances--Davis should've scored and Schneiderlin was very unlucky when he hit the crossbar, although credit where it's due that was an early contender for "save of the season" from Mignolet.
At the back, we were unbreakable for the whole game bar one moment in the second half where we should've beaten Sterling to the header which led to Sturridge's goal. The first goal was mostly down to the stunning pass from Henderson, not particularly bad defending. Yoshida played very well after the first 20 or so minutes when he looked a bit unassured. Bertrand made a very good debut too, on the evidence of that performance he is on the same level as Shaw (albeit Shaw is a few years younger).
Wanyama and Schneiderlin completely bossed the midfield in the second half, Wanyama in particular made a lot of good tackles and interceptions and Schneiderlin's passing was impressive as always (some were saying he didn't get involved enough, despite him making more passes and covering the most distance than anyone else in our team). Midfield is an area where we are very strong, with Cork and Taider on the bench plus Ward-Prowse can play there too.
The front 3 linked up very well, I was very impressed by Ward-Prowse--his set pieces could be a crucial asset this season. What interested me about Tadic is how he is actually not as similar to Lallana as I first thought, tactically and physically. He's not as much of a lightweight--he can hold the ball up well--and also whilst Lallana had a "free role", roaming everywhere on the pitch and all the attacking play going through him, Tadic was almost exclusively on the left hand side. This shows we aren't so reliant on him in attack, which makes it harder for teams to play against us (last season other teams realised if they stopped us supplying Lallana, we were only a fraction as effective going forward).
We need to give Gardos a few games so we can compare him against our other defenders, and I'd like to see Targett try and break into the team this season, like how Chambers did last season. We could also experiment with different set-ups in midfield, since we have so many good midfielders. Perhaps in games against top teams like Chelsea/City we should play a very defensive midfield (Cork, Wanyama and Schneiderlin) and against weaker teams a more attacking midfield? (Davis and Taider come to mind). Up front, it'll be interesting to see what Koeman will do when Jay Rod is back--will he put Jay Rod on the left, swap Tadic out to the right and drop Ward-Prowse into midfield? Or maybe put Rodriguez and Pellé up front together and Tadic in the no 10 role? (like a 4-3-1-2)
I'm still a bit unsure whether not signing any more CBs is a good idea, it depends how good Gardos turns out to be I suppose. If he's better than Lovren was, maybe we can cope but otherwise I still think our lack of depth at CB will be a problem. Maybe another winger/striker as well, though if Ward-Prowse starts scoring goals this season then the front 3 we had against Liverpool will prove very strong, and we still have Jay Rod when he returns.
I think after 8 or so games we'll have a clear picture of how good we are comparatively with the rest of the league and from there we can make a realistic objective for the season--with so many changes and new players over the summer it's difficult to do that right now. At a minimum we should be aiming for 10th maybe? But if we go on to collect 15-18 or points from the next 7 games (Tottenham is the only potentially difficult game coming up) perhaps we should be considering breaking into the top 7.
I have to admit I was worrying that our team would take a while to gel together after all the changes over the summer, and that it would take a while before we started playing very well. I was proven completely wrong yesterday, the team played excellently--every player put in a great performance and, in the second half in particular, we completely outplayed a team which took 3 of our best players away from us this summer. The only criticism you could find was the common problem of not converting enough chances--Davis should've scored and Schneiderlin was very unlucky when he hit the crossbar, although credit where it's due that was an early contender for "save of the season" from Mignolet. At the back, we were unbreakable for the whole game bar one moment in the second half where we should've beaten Sterling to the header which led to Sturridge's goal. The first goal was mostly down to the stunning pass from Henderson, not particularly bad defending. Yoshida played very well after the first 20 or so minutes when he looked a bit unassured. Bertrand made a very good debut too, on the evidence of that performance he is on the same level as Shaw (albeit Shaw is a few years younger). Wanyama and Schneiderlin completely bossed the midfield in the second half, Wanyama in particular made a lot of good tackles and interceptions and Schneiderlin's passing was impressive as always (some were saying he didn't get involved enough, despite him making more passes and covering the most distance than anyone else in our team). Midfield is an area where we are very strong, with Cork and Taider on the bench plus Ward-Prowse can play there too. The front 3 linked up very well, I was very impressed by Ward-Prowse--his set pieces could be a crucial asset this season. What interested me about Tadic is how he is actually not as similar to Lallana as I first thought, tactically and physically. He's not as much of a lightweight--he can hold the ball up well--and also whilst Lallana had a "free role", roaming everywhere on the pitch and all the attacking play going through him, Tadic was almost exclusively on the left hand side. This shows we aren't so reliant on him in attack, which makes it harder for teams to play against us (last season other teams realised if they stopped us supplying Lallana, we were only a fraction as effective going forward). We need to give Gardos a few games so we can compare him against our other defenders, and I'd like to see Targett try and break into the team this season, like how Chambers did last season. We could also experiment with different set-ups in midfield, since we have so many good midfielders. Perhaps in games against top teams like Chelsea/City we should play a very defensive midfield (Cork, Wanyama and Schneiderlin) and against weaker teams a more attacking midfield? (Davis and Taider come to mind). Up front, it'll be interesting to see what Koeman will do when Jay Rod is back--will he put Jay Rod on the left, swap Tadic out to the right and drop Ward-Prowse into midfield? Or maybe put Rodriguez and Pellé up front together and Tadic in the no 10 role? (like a 4-3-1-2) I'm still a bit unsure whether not signing any more CBs is a good idea, it depends how good Gardos turns out to be I suppose. If he's better than Lovren was, maybe we can cope but otherwise I still think our lack of depth at CB will be a problem. Maybe another winger/striker as well, though if Ward-Prowse starts scoring goals this season then the front 3 we had against Liverpool will prove very strong, and we still have Jay Rod when he returns. I think after 8 or so games we'll have a clear picture of how good we are comparatively with the rest of the league and from there we can make a realistic objective for the season--with so many changes and new players over the summer it's difficult to do that right now. At a minimum we should be aiming for 10th maybe? But if we go on to collect 15-18 or points from the next 7 games (Tottenham is the only potentially difficult game coming up) perhaps we should be considering breaking into the top 7. SaintsFan97
  • Score: 38

2:39pm Mon 18 Aug 14

rick0601 says...

SaintsFan97 wrote:
I have to admit I was worrying that our team would take a while to gel together after all the changes over the summer, and that it would take a while before we started playing very well. I was proven completely wrong yesterday, the team played excellently--every player put in a great performance and, in the second half in particular, we completely outplayed a team which took 3 of our best players away from us this summer. The only criticism you could find was the common problem of not converting enough chances--Davis should've scored and Schneiderlin was very unlucky when he hit the crossbar, although credit where it's due that was an early contender for "save of the season" from Mignolet.
At the back, we were unbreakable for the whole game bar one moment in the second half where we should've beaten Sterling to the header which led to Sturridge's goal. The first goal was mostly down to the stunning pass from Henderson, not particularly bad defending. Yoshida played very well after the first 20 or so minutes when he looked a bit unassured. Bertrand made a very good debut too, on the evidence of that performance he is on the same level as Shaw (albeit Shaw is a few years younger).
Wanyama and Schneiderlin completely bossed the midfield in the second half, Wanyama in particular made a lot of good tackles and interceptions and Schneiderlin's passing was impressive as always (some were saying he didn't get involved enough, despite him making more passes and covering the most distance than anyone else in our team). Midfield is an area where we are very strong, with Cork and Taider on the bench plus Ward-Prowse can play there too.
The front 3 linked up very well, I was very impressed by Ward-Prowse--his set pieces could be a crucial asset this season. What interested me about Tadic is how he is actually not as similar to Lallana as I first thought, tactically and physically. He's not as much of a lightweight--he can hold the ball up well--and also whilst Lallana had a "free role", roaming everywhere on the pitch and all the attacking play going through him, Tadic was almost exclusively on the left hand side. This shows we aren't so reliant on him in attack, which makes it harder for teams to play against us (last season other teams realised if they stopped us supplying Lallana, we were only a fraction as effective going forward).
We need to give Gardos a few games so we can compare him against our other defenders, and I'd like to see Targett try and break into the team this season, like how Chambers did last season. We could also experiment with different set-ups in midfield, since we have so many good midfielders. Perhaps in games against top teams like Chelsea/City we should play a very defensive midfield (Cork, Wanyama and Schneiderlin) and against weaker teams a more attacking midfield? (Davis and Taider come to mind). Up front, it'll be interesting to see what Koeman will do when Jay Rod is back--will he put Jay Rod on the left, swap Tadic out to the right and drop Ward-Prowse into midfield? Or maybe put Rodriguez and Pellé up front together and Tadic in the no 10 role? (like a 4-3-1-2)
I'm still a bit unsure whether not signing any more CBs is a good idea, it depends how good Gardos turns out to be I suppose. If he's better than Lovren was, maybe we can cope but otherwise I still think our lack of depth at CB will be a problem. Maybe another winger/striker as well, though if Ward-Prowse starts scoring goals this season then the front 3 we had against Liverpool will prove very strong, and we still have Jay Rod when he returns.
I think after 8 or so games we'll have a clear picture of how good we are comparatively with the rest of the league and from there we can make a realistic objective for the season--with so many changes and new players over the summer it's difficult to do that right now. At a minimum we should be aiming for 10th maybe? But if we go on to collect 15-18 or points from the next 7 games (Tottenham is the only potentially difficult game coming up) perhaps we should be considering breaking into the top 7.
"Yoshida played very well after the first 20 or so"...?!

Yoshida had a terrible game. We desperately need more strength at CB. Fonte was superb, Gardos is an unknown quantity at present. We need quality and back-up too. Unfortunately, neither Hoojveld/Yoshida are good enough at the level we aspire to.
[quote][p][bold]SaintsFan97[/bold] wrote: I have to admit I was worrying that our team would take a while to gel together after all the changes over the summer, and that it would take a while before we started playing very well. I was proven completely wrong yesterday, the team played excellently--every player put in a great performance and, in the second half in particular, we completely outplayed a team which took 3 of our best players away from us this summer. The only criticism you could find was the common problem of not converting enough chances--Davis should've scored and Schneiderlin was very unlucky when he hit the crossbar, although credit where it's due that was an early contender for "save of the season" from Mignolet. At the back, we were unbreakable for the whole game bar one moment in the second half where we should've beaten Sterling to the header which led to Sturridge's goal. The first goal was mostly down to the stunning pass from Henderson, not particularly bad defending. Yoshida played very well after the first 20 or so minutes when he looked a bit unassured. Bertrand made a very good debut too, on the evidence of that performance he is on the same level as Shaw (albeit Shaw is a few years younger). Wanyama and Schneiderlin completely bossed the midfield in the second half, Wanyama in particular made a lot of good tackles and interceptions and Schneiderlin's passing was impressive as always (some were saying he didn't get involved enough, despite him making more passes and covering the most distance than anyone else in our team). Midfield is an area where we are very strong, with Cork and Taider on the bench plus Ward-Prowse can play there too. The front 3 linked up very well, I was very impressed by Ward-Prowse--his set pieces could be a crucial asset this season. What interested me about Tadic is how he is actually not as similar to Lallana as I first thought, tactically and physically. He's not as much of a lightweight--he can hold the ball up well--and also whilst Lallana had a "free role", roaming everywhere on the pitch and all the attacking play going through him, Tadic was almost exclusively on the left hand side. This shows we aren't so reliant on him in attack, which makes it harder for teams to play against us (last season other teams realised if they stopped us supplying Lallana, we were only a fraction as effective going forward). We need to give Gardos a few games so we can compare him against our other defenders, and I'd like to see Targett try and break into the team this season, like how Chambers did last season. We could also experiment with different set-ups in midfield, since we have so many good midfielders. Perhaps in games against top teams like Chelsea/City we should play a very defensive midfield (Cork, Wanyama and Schneiderlin) and against weaker teams a more attacking midfield? (Davis and Taider come to mind). Up front, it'll be interesting to see what Koeman will do when Jay Rod is back--will he put Jay Rod on the left, swap Tadic out to the right and drop Ward-Prowse into midfield? Or maybe put Rodriguez and Pellé up front together and Tadic in the no 10 role? (like a 4-3-1-2) I'm still a bit unsure whether not signing any more CBs is a good idea, it depends how good Gardos turns out to be I suppose. If he's better than Lovren was, maybe we can cope but otherwise I still think our lack of depth at CB will be a problem. Maybe another winger/striker as well, though if Ward-Prowse starts scoring goals this season then the front 3 we had against Liverpool will prove very strong, and we still have Jay Rod when he returns. I think after 8 or so games we'll have a clear picture of how good we are comparatively with the rest of the league and from there we can make a realistic objective for the season--with so many changes and new players over the summer it's difficult to do that right now. At a minimum we should be aiming for 10th maybe? But if we go on to collect 15-18 or points from the next 7 games (Tottenham is the only potentially difficult game coming up) perhaps we should be considering breaking into the top 7.[/p][/quote]"Yoshida played very well after the first 20 or so"...?! Yoshida had a terrible game. We desperately need more strength at CB. Fonte was superb, Gardos is an unknown quantity at present. We need quality and back-up too. Unfortunately, neither Hoojveld/Yoshida are good enough at the level we aspire to. rick0601
  • Score: 8

2:50pm Mon 18 Aug 14

CB FRY LIVES says...

Skipper Jose led by example at Anfield. He deserves to get in the Portugal team.
Under Ronald K. the team should grow from strength to strength. Unlike Poxytino he gave Isgrove a chance in the League.Nice to see Jack Stephens in the squad too.
All the new signings looked good at Anfield.Playing at home this weekend should be the perfect launching pad for our first 3 points of the season.The first 3 of many.
COME ON YOU RED AND WHITE STRIPES
Skipper Jose led by example at Anfield. He deserves to get in the Portugal team. Under Ronald K. the team should grow from strength to strength. Unlike Poxytino he gave Isgrove a chance in the League.Nice to see Jack Stephens in the squad too. All the new signings looked good at Anfield.Playing at home this weekend should be the perfect launching pad for our first 3 points of the season.The first 3 of many. COME ON YOU RED AND WHITE STRIPES CB FRY LIVES
  • Score: 13

3:05pm Mon 18 Aug 14

damoose says...

Jose never look a traitor in the eye
Jose never look a traitor in the eye damoose
  • Score: 0

3:06pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Alicesdad says...

Saintsfab97 .. yeah what he said......

and by the way ...
I like the name TinTin.. one of my favourite cartoons ... does that make Sammy Lee Snowy?

It seems as though Reed and Kreuger are Thomson and Thompson.

This is another one of those where you either know what I'm on about or may as well tune out ...
Saintsfab97 .. yeah what he said...... and by the way ... I like the name TinTin.. one of my favourite cartoons ... does that make Sammy Lee Snowy? It seems as though Reed and Kreuger are Thomson and Thompson. This is another one of those where you either know what I'm on about or may as well tune out ... Alicesdad
  • Score: 8

3:15pm Mon 18 Aug 14

St Forlife says...

An excellent performance and one that made me feel confident - it may take 7 or 8 games for them to gel but that only means they will get better.

Did anyone see RL's interview with Sky before the game? He was as always such a gentleman and spoke so highly of SFC and that he will always be a fan - the man has no ego and he is just an excellent example to young players in terms of believing in yourself and then how to hold yourself and show respect - class. When asked if he had fears for Saints fans given the exodus in the summer his reacxtion was very interesting. He pasused a long time and chose his words very carefully, eventually saying that the owner has surrounded herself with people she believes will do a good job - only time will tell if she is right. It was not just the words but the way he delivered them - very well and professional - but very interesting too. Can't help but feel that many of those exiting did so less because nof big offers elsewhere but more to do with strategy foir the club going forward - quite interesting.

Anyway - we shall see
An excellent performance and one that made me feel confident - it may take 7 or 8 games for them to gel but that only means they will get better. Did anyone see RL's interview with Sky before the game? He was as always such a gentleman and spoke so highly of SFC and that he will always be a fan - the man has no ego and he is just an excellent example to young players in terms of believing in yourself and then how to hold yourself and show respect - class. When asked if he had fears for Saints fans given the exodus in the summer his reacxtion was very interesting. He pasused a long time and chose his words very carefully, eventually saying that the owner has surrounded herself with people she believes will do a good job - only time will tell if she is right. It was not just the words but the way he delivered them - very well and professional - but very interesting too. Can't help but feel that many of those exiting did so less because nof big offers elsewhere but more to do with strategy foir the club going forward - quite interesting. Anyway - we shall see St Forlife
  • Score: 2

3:17pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Beer Monster says...

Confucious wrote:
That was one of the best defeats I can remember.
Indeed - our first game back in the Prem at the Etihad was similar, shows the big boys we're not here to make up the numbers.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: That was one of the best defeats I can remember.[/p][/quote]Indeed - our first game back in the Prem at the Etihad was similar, shows the big boys we're not here to make up the numbers. Beer Monster
  • Score: 10

3:38pm Mon 18 Aug 14

ItalianSaint says...

On a light hearted note (at least for the moment!!) & following the almost universal praise for the Saints' performance yesterday what concerns me at this very early stage of the 2014/2015 season will another successful campaign (repeating, or bettering, last season) herald yet another summer of frantic transfer activity!!?
On a light hearted note (at least for the moment!!) & following the almost universal praise for the Saints' performance yesterday what concerns me at this very early stage of the 2014/2015 season will another successful campaign (repeating, or bettering, last season) herald yet another summer of frantic transfer activity!!? ItalianSaint
  • Score: 3

3:39pm Mon 18 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Confucious wrote:
That was one of the best defeats I can remember.
A great way of looking at it and you know what you're exactly right. We proved a point yesterday by not taking any but making a great many.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: That was one of the best defeats I can remember.[/p][/quote]A great way of looking at it and you know what you're exactly right. We proved a point yesterday by not taking any but making a great many. jls217
  • Score: 9

3:39pm Mon 18 Aug 14

PaulSnook says...

St Forlife wrote:
An excellent performance and one that made me feel confident - it may take 7 or 8 games for them to gel but that only means they will get better.

Did anyone see RL's interview with Sky before the game? He was as always such a gentleman and spoke so highly of SFC and that he will always be a fan - the man has no ego and he is just an excellent example to young players in terms of believing in yourself and then how to hold yourself and show respect - class. When asked if he had fears for Saints fans given the exodus in the summer his reacxtion was very interesting. He pasused a long time and chose his words very carefully, eventually saying that the owner has surrounded herself with people she believes will do a good job - only time will tell if she is right. It was not just the words but the way he delivered them - very well and professional - but very interesting too. Can't help but feel that many of those exiting did so less because nof big offers elsewhere but more to do with strategy foir the club going forward - quite interesting.

Anyway - we shall see
Did you see the interview on Fox sport with Rickie?
[quote][p][bold]St Forlife[/bold] wrote: An excellent performance and one that made me feel confident - it may take 7 or 8 games for them to gel but that only means they will get better. Did anyone see RL's interview with Sky before the game? He was as always such a gentleman and spoke so highly of SFC and that he will always be a fan - the man has no ego and he is just an excellent example to young players in terms of believing in yourself and then how to hold yourself and show respect - class. When asked if he had fears for Saints fans given the exodus in the summer his reacxtion was very interesting. He pasused a long time and chose his words very carefully, eventually saying that the owner has surrounded herself with people she believes will do a good job - only time will tell if she is right. It was not just the words but the way he delivered them - very well and professional - but very interesting too. Can't help but feel that many of those exiting did so less because nof big offers elsewhere but more to do with strategy foir the club going forward - quite interesting. Anyway - we shall see[/p][/quote]Did you see the interview on Fox sport with Rickie? PaulSnook
  • Score: 1

3:41pm Mon 18 Aug 14

damoose says...

St Forlife says...

An excellent performance and one that made me feel confident - it may take 7 or 8 games for them to gel but that only means they will get better.

Did anyone see RL's interview with Sky before the game? He was as always such a gentleman and spoke so highly of SFC and that he will always be a fan - the man has no ego and he is just an excellent example to young players in terms of believing in yourself and then how to hold yourself and show respect - class. When asked if he had fears for Saints fans given the exodus in the summer his reacxtion was very interesting. He pasused a long time and chose his words very carefully, eventually saying that the owner has surrounded herself with people she believes will do a good job - only time will tell if she is right. It was not just the words but the way he delivered them - very well and professional - but very interesting too. Can't help but feel that many of those exiting did so less because nof big offers elsewhere but more to do with strategy foir the club going forward - quite interesting.

Anyway - we shall see

---------------
Yes I saw that good stuff also saw the Brendan Rogers interview he says we sold away our champions league ambitions so all the players wanted out..seems 8th is the ceiling now,but i always wanted us to win the title even if its just once
St Forlife says... An excellent performance and one that made me feel confident - it may take 7 or 8 games for them to gel but that only means they will get better. Did anyone see RL's interview with Sky before the game? He was as always such a gentleman and spoke so highly of SFC and that he will always be a fan - the man has no ego and he is just an excellent example to young players in terms of believing in yourself and then how to hold yourself and show respect - class. When asked if he had fears for Saints fans given the exodus in the summer his reacxtion was very interesting. He pasused a long time and chose his words very carefully, eventually saying that the owner has surrounded herself with people she believes will do a good job - only time will tell if she is right. It was not just the words but the way he delivered them - very well and professional - but very interesting too. Can't help but feel that many of those exiting did so less because nof big offers elsewhere but more to do with strategy foir the club going forward - quite interesting. Anyway - we shall see --------------- Yes I saw that good stuff also saw the Brendan Rogers interview he says we sold away our champions league ambitions so all the players wanted out..seems 8th is the ceiling now,but i always wanted us to win the title even if its just once damoose
  • Score: 2

3:47pm Mon 18 Aug 14

reedhunter1 says...

I was there and we will finish top ten playing like we did for sure.
We are the mighty southampton COYR
I was there and we will finish top ten playing like we did for sure. We are the mighty southampton COYR reedhunter1
  • Score: 1

3:52pm Mon 18 Aug 14

warrens 76 says...

rick0601 wrote:
SaintsFan97 wrote:
I have to admit I was worrying that our team would take a while to gel together after all the changes over the summer, and that it would take a while before we started playing very well. I was proven completely wrong yesterday, the team played excellently--every player put in a great performance and, in the second half in particular, we completely outplayed a team which took 3 of our best players away from us this summer. The only criticism you could find was the common problem of not converting enough chances--Davis should've scored and Schneiderlin was very unlucky when he hit the crossbar, although credit where it's due that was an early contender for "save of the season" from Mignolet.
At the back, we were unbreakable for the whole game bar one moment in the second half where we should've beaten Sterling to the header which led to Sturridge's goal. The first goal was mostly down to the stunning pass from Henderson, not particularly bad defending. Yoshida played very well after the first 20 or so minutes when he looked a bit unassured. Bertrand made a very good debut too, on the evidence of that performance he is on the same level as Shaw (albeit Shaw is a few years younger).
Wanyama and Schneiderlin completely bossed the midfield in the second half, Wanyama in particular made a lot of good tackles and interceptions and Schneiderlin's passing was impressive as always (some were saying he didn't get involved enough, despite him making more passes and covering the most distance than anyone else in our team). Midfield is an area where we are very strong, with Cork and Taider on the bench plus Ward-Prowse can play there too.
The front 3 linked up very well, I was very impressed by Ward-Prowse--his set pieces could be a crucial asset this season. What interested me about Tadic is how he is actually not as similar to Lallana as I first thought, tactically and physically. He's not as much of a lightweight--he can hold the ball up well--and also whilst Lallana had a "free role", roaming everywhere on the pitch and all the attacking play going through him, Tadic was almost exclusively on the left hand side. This shows we aren't so reliant on him in attack, which makes it harder for teams to play against us (last season other teams realised if they stopped us supplying Lallana, we were only a fraction as effective going forward).
We need to give Gardos a few games so we can compare him against our other defenders, and I'd like to see Targett try and break into the team this season, like how Chambers did last season. We could also experiment with different set-ups in midfield, since we have so many good midfielders. Perhaps in games against top teams like Chelsea/City we should play a very defensive midfield (Cork, Wanyama and Schneiderlin) and against weaker teams a more attacking midfield? (Davis and Taider come to mind). Up front, it'll be interesting to see what Koeman will do when Jay Rod is back--will he put Jay Rod on the left, swap Tadic out to the right and drop Ward-Prowse into midfield? Or maybe put Rodriguez and Pellé up front together and Tadic in the no 10 role? (like a 4-3-1-2)
I'm still a bit unsure whether not signing any more CBs is a good idea, it depends how good Gardos turns out to be I suppose. If he's better than Lovren was, maybe we can cope but otherwise I still think our lack of depth at CB will be a problem. Maybe another winger/striker as well, though if Ward-Prowse starts scoring goals this season then the front 3 we had against Liverpool will prove very strong, and we still have Jay Rod when he returns.
I think after 8 or so games we'll have a clear picture of how good we are comparatively with the rest of the league and from there we can make a realistic objective for the season--with so many changes and new players over the summer it's difficult to do that right now. At a minimum we should be aiming for 10th maybe? But if we go on to collect 15-18 or points from the next 7 games (Tottenham is the only potentially difficult game coming up) perhaps we should be considering breaking into the top 7.
"Yoshida played very well after the first 20 or so"...?!

Yoshida had a terrible game. We desperately need more strength at CB. Fonte was superb, Gardos is an unknown quantity at present. We need quality and back-up too. Unfortunately, neither Hoojveld/Yoshida are good enough at the level we aspire to.
Bless Yoshida or kill him the 'orrible fact is he gets exposed, now the others do to, 2, too, however who offers the all round game leadership etc..Fonte obviously, so…we may have replaced him as first choice ..yet if Gardos or Fonte are injured then same old Saints..all the flash no cash..
Nonetheless since NA's baptism into the prem I have always said we could cover our 4ssses by scoring ie converting more…still hold true.
[quote][p][bold]rick0601[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintsFan97[/bold] wrote: I have to admit I was worrying that our team would take a while to gel together after all the changes over the summer, and that it would take a while before we started playing very well. I was proven completely wrong yesterday, the team played excellently--every player put in a great performance and, in the second half in particular, we completely outplayed a team which took 3 of our best players away from us this summer. The only criticism you could find was the common problem of not converting enough chances--Davis should've scored and Schneiderlin was very unlucky when he hit the crossbar, although credit where it's due that was an early contender for "save of the season" from Mignolet. At the back, we were unbreakable for the whole game bar one moment in the second half where we should've beaten Sterling to the header which led to Sturridge's goal. The first goal was mostly down to the stunning pass from Henderson, not particularly bad defending. Yoshida played very well after the first 20 or so minutes when he looked a bit unassured. Bertrand made a very good debut too, on the evidence of that performance he is on the same level as Shaw (albeit Shaw is a few years younger). Wanyama and Schneiderlin completely bossed the midfield in the second half, Wanyama in particular made a lot of good tackles and interceptions and Schneiderlin's passing was impressive as always (some were saying he didn't get involved enough, despite him making more passes and covering the most distance than anyone else in our team). Midfield is an area where we are very strong, with Cork and Taider on the bench plus Ward-Prowse can play there too. The front 3 linked up very well, I was very impressed by Ward-Prowse--his set pieces could be a crucial asset this season. What interested me about Tadic is how he is actually not as similar to Lallana as I first thought, tactically and physically. He's not as much of a lightweight--he can hold the ball up well--and also whilst Lallana had a "free role", roaming everywhere on the pitch and all the attacking play going through him, Tadic was almost exclusively on the left hand side. This shows we aren't so reliant on him in attack, which makes it harder for teams to play against us (last season other teams realised if they stopped us supplying Lallana, we were only a fraction as effective going forward). We need to give Gardos a few games so we can compare him against our other defenders, and I'd like to see Targett try and break into the team this season, like how Chambers did last season. We could also experiment with different set-ups in midfield, since we have so many good midfielders. Perhaps in games against top teams like Chelsea/City we should play a very defensive midfield (Cork, Wanyama and Schneiderlin) and against weaker teams a more attacking midfield? (Davis and Taider come to mind). Up front, it'll be interesting to see what Koeman will do when Jay Rod is back--will he put Jay Rod on the left, swap Tadic out to the right and drop Ward-Prowse into midfield? Or maybe put Rodriguez and Pellé up front together and Tadic in the no 10 role? (like a 4-3-1-2) I'm still a bit unsure whether not signing any more CBs is a good idea, it depends how good Gardos turns out to be I suppose. If he's better than Lovren was, maybe we can cope but otherwise I still think our lack of depth at CB will be a problem. Maybe another winger/striker as well, though if Ward-Prowse starts scoring goals this season then the front 3 we had against Liverpool will prove very strong, and we still have Jay Rod when he returns. I think after 8 or so games we'll have a clear picture of how good we are comparatively with the rest of the league and from there we can make a realistic objective for the season--with so many changes and new players over the summer it's difficult to do that right now. At a minimum we should be aiming for 10th maybe? But if we go on to collect 15-18 or points from the next 7 games (Tottenham is the only potentially difficult game coming up) perhaps we should be considering breaking into the top 7.[/p][/quote]"Yoshida played very well after the first 20 or so"...?! Yoshida had a terrible game. We desperately need more strength at CB. Fonte was superb, Gardos is an unknown quantity at present. We need quality and back-up too. Unfortunately, neither Hoojveld/Yoshida are good enough at the level we aspire to.[/p][/quote]Bless Yoshida or kill him the 'orrible fact is he gets exposed, now the others do to, 2, too, however who offers the all round game leadership etc..Fonte obviously, so…we may have replaced him as first choice ..yet if Gardos or Fonte are injured then same old Saints..all the flash no cash.. Nonetheless since NA's baptism into the prem I have always said we could cover our 4ssses by scoring ie converting more…still hold true. warrens 76
  • Score: -3

3:52pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Graham, North of Watford says...

Alicesdad wrote:
Saintsfab97 .. yeah what he said......

and by the way ...
I like the name TinTin.. one of my favourite cartoons ... does that make Sammy Lee Snowy?

It seems as though Reed and Kreuger are Thomson and Thompson.

This is another one of those where you either know what I'm on about or may as well tune out ...
Much more importantly, Who is Captain Haddock going to be??
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Saintsfab97 .. yeah what he said...... and by the way ... I like the name TinTin.. one of my favourite cartoons ... does that make Sammy Lee Snowy? It seems as though Reed and Kreuger are Thomson and Thompson. This is another one of those where you either know what I'm on about or may as well tune out ...[/p][/quote]Much more importantly, Who is Captain Haddock going to be?? Graham, North of Watford
  • Score: -3

4:06pm Mon 18 Aug 14

warrens 76 says...

damoose wrote:
St Forlife says...

An excellent performance and one that made me feel confident - it may take 7 or 8 games for them to gel but that only means they will get better.

Did anyone see RL's interview with Sky before the game? He was as always such a gentleman and spoke so highly of SFC and that he will always be a fan - the man has no ego and he is just an excellent example to young players in terms of believing in yourself and then how to hold yourself and show respect - class. When asked if he had fears for Saints fans given the exodus in the summer his reacxtion was very interesting. He pasused a long time and chose his words very carefully, eventually saying that the owner has surrounded herself with people she believes will do a good job - only time will tell if she is right. It was not just the words but the way he delivered them - very well and professional - but very interesting too. Can't help but feel that many of those exiting did so less because nof big offers elsewhere but more to do with strategy foir the club going forward - quite interesting.

Anyway - we shall see

---------------
Yes I saw that good stuff also saw the Brendan Rogers interview he says we sold away our champions league ambitions so all the players wanted out..seems 8th is the ceiling now,but i always wanted us to win the title even if its just once
I agree with Brenda, we did, no one will ever get so close on so little outlay agin, MCFC, CHELSEA, UNI-ted all spent 100's of millions to achieve the success we were three players away from..never happen again for us, for anyone….
[quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: St Forlife says... An excellent performance and one that made me feel confident - it may take 7 or 8 games for them to gel but that only means they will get better. Did anyone see RL's interview with Sky before the game? He was as always such a gentleman and spoke so highly of SFC and that he will always be a fan - the man has no ego and he is just an excellent example to young players in terms of believing in yourself and then how to hold yourself and show respect - class. When asked if he had fears for Saints fans given the exodus in the summer his reacxtion was very interesting. He pasused a long time and chose his words very carefully, eventually saying that the owner has surrounded herself with people she believes will do a good job - only time will tell if she is right. It was not just the words but the way he delivered them - very well and professional - but very interesting too. Can't help but feel that many of those exiting did so less because nof big offers elsewhere but more to do with strategy foir the club going forward - quite interesting. Anyway - we shall see --------------- Yes I saw that good stuff also saw the Brendan Rogers interview he says we sold away our champions league ambitions so all the players wanted out..seems 8th is the ceiling now,but i always wanted us to win the title even if its just once[/p][/quote]I agree with Brenda, we did, no one will ever get so close on so little outlay agin, MCFC, CHELSEA, UNI-ted all spent 100's of millions to achieve the success we were three players away from..never happen again for us, for anyone…. warrens 76
  • Score: -45

4:12pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Saint Clements says...

Another positive (have there ever been so many from a defeat?) - did anyone else think the way Shane Long congratulated Dusan as he replaced him in the second half was class. Shane seemed to genuinely be saying well done on a great debut, rather than the for-the-numbers clapping usually seen by players.

Hints at a strong team ethic, me hopes...
Another positive (have there ever been so many from a defeat?) - did anyone else think the way Shane Long congratulated Dusan as he replaced him in the second half was class. Shane seemed to genuinely be saying well done on a great debut, rather than the for-the-numbers clapping usually seen by players. Hints at a strong team ethic, me hopes... Saint Clements
  • Score: 17

4:37pm Mon 18 Aug 14

InsideOutCat says...

And even after that highly creditable performance there are still those who think it's more important to bleat on about imagined shortcomings than admit that this season may well not be the disaster the "experts" predicted.
And even after that highly creditable performance there are still those who think it's more important to bleat on about imagined shortcomings than admit that this season may well not be the disaster the "experts" predicted. InsideOutCat
  • Score: 7

4:42pm Mon 18 Aug 14

legh_langston says...

After all the exits we still managed to start with 7 of last years squad, and one more came on as sub. That's continuity!
After all the exits we still managed to start with 7 of last years squad, and one more came on as sub. That's continuity! legh_langston
  • Score: 8

4:48pm Mon 18 Aug 14

echo1948 says...

Graham, North of Watford wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
Saintsfab97 .. yeah what he said......

and by the way ...
I like the name TinTin.. one of my favourite cartoons ... does that make Sammy Lee Snowy?

It seems as though Reed and Kreuger are Thomson and Thompson.

This is another one of those where you either know what I'm on about or may as well tune out ...
Much more importantly, Who is Captain Haddock going to be??
Easy one that...............L
es Reed!
[quote][p][bold]Graham, North of Watford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Saintsfab97 .. yeah what he said...... and by the way ... I like the name TinTin.. one of my favourite cartoons ... does that make Sammy Lee Snowy? It seems as though Reed and Kreuger are Thomson and Thompson. This is another one of those where you either know what I'm on about or may as well tune out ...[/p][/quote]Much more importantly, Who is Captain Haddock going to be??[/p][/quote]Easy one that...............L es Reed! echo1948
  • Score: -2

5:18pm Mon 18 Aug 14

nomorerumours says...

ItalianSaint wrote:
On a light hearted note (at least for the moment!!) & following the almost universal praise for the Saints' performance yesterday what concerns me at this very early stage of the 2014/2015 season will another successful campaign (repeating, or bettering, last season) herald yet another summer of frantic transfer activity!!?
No it will not! RonKo said in one of his recent interviews that he is "in it for the long haul and he will be Saints manager for the 3 years of his contract (unless he fails)". If things go well, as I expect, he could turn into a long-term manager for us (5 to 10 years+). He will not be enticed away by a more lucrative offer like Poch was - he is not driven by big money (but he obviously deserves an excellent monetary package). I also do not believe that he would move to a club with Champions League football (now). You need to look at his main reasons for joining us. He is immensely impressed with our academy and loves bringing through and developing young talent. I think he will generate a huge amount of player loyalty and respect and this will greatly reduce the number of players leaving at the end of future seasons. There will still be the odd one or two but we will get top dollar for them and find quality replacements - remember he has achieved a lot with our squad within a really tight time-frame - Poch leaving, the World Cup and then RonKo joining all in a few hectic weeks. Future transfer windows will be far less frantic for us. RonKo will take our club to new heights and Europe beckons. Southampton are now in a much stronger financial position and we will slowly but steadily be able to pay high wages helping even more with player retention. It is all going in the right direction. Now for a long run of good results while we play bottom half teams. Exciting times to be a Saints fan. I've been one for 53 years and gone though many ups and downs with the club but I have never felt so confident in our future of our wonderful club.
[quote][p][bold]ItalianSaint[/bold] wrote: On a light hearted note (at least for the moment!!) & following the almost universal praise for the Saints' performance yesterday what concerns me at this very early stage of the 2014/2015 season will another successful campaign (repeating, or bettering, last season) herald yet another summer of frantic transfer activity!!?[/p][/quote]No it will not! RonKo said in one of his recent interviews that he is "in it for the long haul and he will be Saints manager for the 3 years of his contract (unless he fails)". If things go well, as I expect, he could turn into a long-term manager for us (5 to 10 years+). He will not be enticed away by a more lucrative offer like Poch was - he is not driven by big money (but he obviously deserves an excellent monetary package). I also do not believe that he would move to a club with Champions League football (now). You need to look at his main reasons for joining us. He is immensely impressed with our academy and loves bringing through and developing young talent. I think he will generate a huge amount of player loyalty and respect and this will greatly reduce the number of players leaving at the end of future seasons. There will still be the odd one or two but we will get top dollar for them and find quality replacements - remember he has achieved a lot with our squad within a really tight time-frame - Poch leaving, the World Cup and then RonKo joining all in a few hectic weeks. Future transfer windows will be far less frantic for us. RonKo will take our club to new heights and Europe beckons. Southampton are now in a much stronger financial position and we will slowly but steadily be able to pay high wages helping even more with player retention. It is all going in the right direction. Now for a long run of good results while we play bottom half teams. Exciting times to be a Saints fan. I've been one for 53 years and gone though many ups and downs with the club but I have never felt so confident in our future of our wonderful club. nomorerumours
  • Score: 10

5:22pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

damoose wrote:
St Forlife says...

An excellent performance and one that made me feel confident - it may take 7 or 8 games for them to gel but that only means they will get better.

Did anyone see RL's interview with Sky before the game? He was as always such a gentleman and spoke so highly of SFC and that he will always be a fan - the man has no ego and he is just an excellent example to young players in terms of believing in yourself and then how to hold yourself and show respect - class. When asked if he had fears for Saints fans given the exodus in the summer his reacxtion was very interesting. He pasused a long time and chose his words very carefully, eventually saying that the owner has surrounded herself with people she believes will do a good job - only time will tell if she is right. It was not just the words but the way he delivered them - very well and professional - but very interesting too. Can't help but feel that many of those exiting did so less because nof big offers elsewhere but more to do with strategy foir the club going forward - quite interesting.

Anyway - we shall see

---------------
Yes I saw that good stuff also saw the Brendan Rogers interview he says we sold away our champions league ambitions so all the players wanted out..seems 8th is the ceiling now,but i always wanted us to win the title even if its just once
I'm tempted to say "I told you so".. But I won't. Time to move on.
[quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: St Forlife says... An excellent performance and one that made me feel confident - it may take 7 or 8 games for them to gel but that only means they will get better. Did anyone see RL's interview with Sky before the game? He was as always such a gentleman and spoke so highly of SFC and that he will always be a fan - the man has no ego and he is just an excellent example to young players in terms of believing in yourself and then how to hold yourself and show respect - class. When asked if he had fears for Saints fans given the exodus in the summer his reacxtion was very interesting. He pasused a long time and chose his words very carefully, eventually saying that the owner has surrounded herself with people she believes will do a good job - only time will tell if she is right. It was not just the words but the way he delivered them - very well and professional - but very interesting too. Can't help but feel that many of those exiting did so less because nof big offers elsewhere but more to do with strategy foir the club going forward - quite interesting. Anyway - we shall see --------------- Yes I saw that good stuff also saw the Brendan Rogers interview he says we sold away our champions league ambitions so all the players wanted out..seems 8th is the ceiling now,but i always wanted us to win the title even if its just once[/p][/quote]I'm tempted to say "I told you so".. But I won't. Time to move on. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

5:27pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

warrens 76 wrote:
damoose wrote:
St Forlife says...

An excellent performance and one that made me feel confident - it may take 7 or 8 games for them to gel but that only means they will get better.

Did anyone see RL's interview with Sky before the game? He was as always such a gentleman and spoke so highly of SFC and that he will always be a fan - the man has no ego and he is just an excellent example to young players in terms of believing in yourself and then how to hold yourself and show respect - class. When asked if he had fears for Saints fans given the exodus in the summer his reacxtion was very interesting. He pasused a long time and chose his words very carefully, eventually saying that the owner has surrounded herself with people she believes will do a good job - only time will tell if she is right. It was not just the words but the way he delivered them - very well and professional - but very interesting too. Can't help but feel that many of those exiting did so less because nof big offers elsewhere but more to do with strategy foir the club going forward - quite interesting.

Anyway - we shall see

---------------
Yes I saw that good stuff also saw the Brendan Rogers interview he says we sold away our champions league ambitions so all the players wanted out..seems 8th is the ceiling now,but i always wanted us to win the title even if its just once
I agree with Brenda, we did, no one will ever get so close on so little outlay agin, MCFC, CHELSEA, UNI-ted all spent 100's of millions to achieve the success we were three players away from..never happen again for us, for anyone….
You didn't get a lot of support for saying that Warrens..but you're right!!
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: St Forlife says... An excellent performance and one that made me feel confident - it may take 7 or 8 games for them to gel but that only means they will get better. Did anyone see RL's interview with Sky before the game? He was as always such a gentleman and spoke so highly of SFC and that he will always be a fan - the man has no ego and he is just an excellent example to young players in terms of believing in yourself and then how to hold yourself and show respect - class. When asked if he had fears for Saints fans given the exodus in the summer his reacxtion was very interesting. He pasused a long time and chose his words very carefully, eventually saying that the owner has surrounded herself with people she believes will do a good job - only time will tell if she is right. It was not just the words but the way he delivered them - very well and professional - but very interesting too. Can't help but feel that many of those exiting did so less because nof big offers elsewhere but more to do with strategy foir the club going forward - quite interesting. Anyway - we shall see --------------- Yes I saw that good stuff also saw the Brendan Rogers interview he says we sold away our champions league ambitions so all the players wanted out..seems 8th is the ceiling now,but i always wanted us to win the title even if its just once[/p][/quote]I agree with Brenda, we did, no one will ever get so close on so little outlay agin, MCFC, CHELSEA, UNI-ted all spent 100's of millions to achieve the success we were three players away from..never happen again for us, for anyone….[/p][/quote]You didn't get a lot of support for saying that Warrens..but you're right!! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: -9

5:28pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Confucious says...

Saint Clements wrote:
Another positive (have there ever been so many from a defeat?) - did anyone else think the way Shane Long congratulated Dusan as he replaced him in the second half was class. Shane seemed to genuinely be saying well done on a great debut, rather than the for-the-numbers clapping usually seen by players.

Hints at a strong team ethic, me hopes...
I noticed that and thought at the time it was unusual. I think the welcome we give Roko and the whole crew on Saturday could make a big positive too. Everyone knows it's been a rotten closed season for the fans and this will be the moment to show them and indeed ourselves that, despite the blows, when a new battle arrives, the Saints Go Marching In!

Having said that the away Saints at Anfield did us all proud.
[quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: Another positive (have there ever been so many from a defeat?) - did anyone else think the way Shane Long congratulated Dusan as he replaced him in the second half was class. Shane seemed to genuinely be saying well done on a great debut, rather than the for-the-numbers clapping usually seen by players. Hints at a strong team ethic, me hopes...[/p][/quote]I noticed that and thought at the time it was unusual. I think the welcome we give Roko and the whole crew on Saturday could make a big positive too. Everyone knows it's been a rotten closed season for the fans and this will be the moment to show them and indeed ourselves that, despite the blows, when a new battle arrives, the Saints Go Marching In! Having said that the away Saints at Anfield did us all proud. Confucious
  • Score: 15

6:21pm Mon 18 Aug 14

mickey01 says...

notaclue wrote:
johnlennon_ar wrote:
First impression of Pella?
Too early to judge Pelle on that performance, unlike Tadic who looks to have hit the ground running.
Too true and i think it would have been a better choice to take pelle off instead of tadic who played a blinder
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnlennon_ar[/bold] wrote: First impression of Pella?[/p][/quote]Too early to judge Pelle on that performance, unlike Tadic who looks to have hit the ground running.[/p][/quote]Too true and i think it would have been a better choice to take pelle off instead of tadic who played a blinder mickey01
  • Score: 9

6:24pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Benali76 says...

Graham, North of Watford wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
Saintsfab97 .. yeah what he said......

and by the way ...
I like the name TinTin.. one of my favourite cartoons ... does that make Sammy Lee Snowy?

It seems as though Reed and Kreuger are Thomson and Thompson.

This is another one of those where you either know what I'm on about or may as well tune out ...
Much more importantly, Who is Captain Haddock going to be??
Pochitino's definitely rastapopulis.
[quote][p][bold]Graham, North of Watford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Saintsfab97 .. yeah what he said...... and by the way ... I like the name TinTin.. one of my favourite cartoons ... does that make Sammy Lee Snowy? It seems as though Reed and Kreuger are Thomson and Thompson. This is another one of those where you either know what I'm on about or may as well tune out ...[/p][/quote]Much more importantly, Who is Captain Haddock going to be??[/p][/quote]Pochitino's definitely rastapopulis. Benali76
  • Score: 2

6:51pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Chapperall says...

What I can't understand is why Wenger saw potential in Chambers as a CB and we didn't ? They way he has taken to that position at Arsenal it's like he owns it!
If we could have offered the same first team chances who knows!
But agree with everyone that the team played well yesterday and all the doom merchants mainly the press and media pundits will hopefully be eating their words. We can only get better and we are as good as any team I have seen in the PL.
I reckon allardyce will be the first casualty of the season.
What I can't understand is why Wenger saw potential in Chambers as a CB and we didn't ? They way he has taken to that position at Arsenal it's like he owns it! If we could have offered the same first team chances who knows! But agree with everyone that the team played well yesterday and all the doom merchants mainly the press and media pundits will hopefully be eating their words. We can only get better and we are as good as any team I have seen in the PL. I reckon allardyce will be the first casualty of the season. Chapperall
  • Score: 9

6:55pm Mon 18 Aug 14

David Crook says...

What a great move making Fonte Saints captain,the man has become a world class defender overnight.
What a great move making Fonte Saints captain,the man has become a world class defender overnight. David Crook
  • Score: 8

7:06pm Mon 18 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Chapperall wrote:
What I can't understand is why Wenger saw potential in Chambers as a CB and we didn't ? They way he has taken to that position at Arsenal it's like he owns it!
If we could have offered the same first team chances who knows!
But agree with everyone that the team played well yesterday and all the doom merchants mainly the press and media pundits will hopefully be eating their words. We can only get better and we are as good as any team I have seen in the PL.
I reckon allardyce will be the first casualty of the season.
Chambers has played one game there this season against Crystal Palace.
No disrespect to Palace but he'll have a lot tougher games to come and his performances can be judged then and he may not look as accomplished.
I reckon Redcrap could be an early candidate for the chop.
We need a win on Saturday to confirm we have arrived and will be a fixture nobody in the PL will relish and silence the media and so called expert football pundits....not!
COYR FOADP
[quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: What I can't understand is why Wenger saw potential in Chambers as a CB and we didn't ? They way he has taken to that position at Arsenal it's like he owns it! If we could have offered the same first team chances who knows! But agree with everyone that the team played well yesterday and all the doom merchants mainly the press and media pundits will hopefully be eating their words. We can only get better and we are as good as any team I have seen in the PL. I reckon allardyce will be the first casualty of the season.[/p][/quote]Chambers has played one game there this season against Crystal Palace. No disrespect to Palace but he'll have a lot tougher games to come and his performances can be judged then and he may not look as accomplished. I reckon Redcrap could be an early candidate for the chop. We need a win on Saturday to confirm we have arrived and will be a fixture nobody in the PL will relish and silence the media and so called expert football pundits....not! COYR FOADP J7junctionseven
  • Score: 6

7:16pm Mon 18 Aug 14

John Gillham says...

Jose was immense. He should be playing for Portugal. If the new guy is as good our central defence will be in good hands. Yoshida isn't bad for a reserve so I can unerstand the manager's point of view.
Jose was immense. He should be playing for Portugal. If the new guy is as good our central defence will be in good hands. Yoshida isn't bad for a reserve so I can unerstand the manager's point of view. John Gillham
  • Score: 6

7:48pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Costa Baz says...

rick0601 wrote:
SaintsFan97 wrote:
I have to admit I was worrying that our team would take a while to gel together after all the changes over the summer, and that it would take a while before we started playing very well. I was proven completely wrong yesterday, the team played excellently--every player put in a great performance and, in the second half in particular, we completely outplayed a team which took 3 of our best players away from us this summer. The only criticism you could find was the common problem of not converting enough chances--Davis should've scored and Schneiderlin was very unlucky when he hit the crossbar, although credit where it's due that was an early contender for "save of the season" from Mignolet.
At the back, we were unbreakable for the whole game bar one moment in the second half where we should've beaten Sterling to the header which led to Sturridge's goal. The first goal was mostly down to the stunning pass from Henderson, not particularly bad defending. Yoshida played very well after the first 20 or so minutes when he looked a bit unassured. Bertrand made a very good debut too, on the evidence of that performance he is on the same level as Shaw (albeit Shaw is a few years younger).
Wanyama and Schneiderlin completely bossed the midfield in the second half, Wanyama in particular made a lot of good tackles and interceptions and Schneiderlin's passing was impressive as always (some were saying he didn't get involved enough, despite him making more passes and covering the most distance than anyone else in our team). Midfield is an area where we are very strong, with Cork and Taider on the bench plus Ward-Prowse can play there too.
The front 3 linked up very well, I was very impressed by Ward-Prowse--his set pieces could be a crucial asset this season. What interested me about Tadic is how he is actually not as similar to Lallana as I first thought, tactically and physically. He's not as much of a lightweight--he can hold the ball up well--and also whilst Lallana had a "free role", roaming everywhere on the pitch and all the attacking play going through him, Tadic was almost exclusively on the left hand side. This shows we aren't so reliant on him in attack, which makes it harder for teams to play against us (last season other teams realised if they stopped us supplying Lallana, we were only a fraction as effective going forward).
We need to give Gardos a few games so we can compare him against our other defenders, and I'd like to see Targett try and break into the team this season, like how Chambers did last season. We could also experiment with different set-ups in midfield, since we have so many good midfielders. Perhaps in games against top teams like Chelsea/City we should play a very defensive midfield (Cork, Wanyama and Schneiderlin) and against weaker teams a more attacking midfield? (Davis and Taider come to mind). Up front, it'll be interesting to see what Koeman will do when Jay Rod is back--will he put Jay Rod on the left, swap Tadic out to the right and drop Ward-Prowse into midfield? Or maybe put Rodriguez and Pellé up front together and Tadic in the no 10 role? (like a 4-3-1-2)
I'm still a bit unsure whether not signing any more CBs is a good idea, it depends how good Gardos turns out to be I suppose. If he's better than Lovren was, maybe we can cope but otherwise I still think our lack of depth at CB will be a problem. Maybe another winger/striker as well, though if Ward-Prowse starts scoring goals this season then the front 3 we had against Liverpool will prove very strong, and we still have Jay Rod when he returns.
I think after 8 or so games we'll have a clear picture of how good we are comparatively with the rest of the league and from there we can make a realistic objective for the season--with so many changes and new players over the summer it's difficult to do that right now. At a minimum we should be aiming for 10th maybe? But if we go on to collect 15-18 or points from the next 7 games (Tottenham is the only potentially difficult game coming up) perhaps we should be considering breaking into the top 7.
"Yoshida played very well after the first 20 or so"...?!

Yoshida had a terrible game. We desperately need more strength at CB. Fonte was superb, Gardos is an unknown quantity at present. We need quality and back-up too. Unfortunately, neither Hoojveld/Yoshida are good enough at the level we aspire to.
Did you actually watch the game, or are you knocking Yoshida because it is now fashionable to do so, on this forum?

He was no more terrible, than any other player in the team.
[quote][p][bold]rick0601[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintsFan97[/bold] wrote: I have to admit I was worrying that our team would take a while to gel together after all the changes over the summer, and that it would take a while before we started playing very well. I was proven completely wrong yesterday, the team played excellently--every player put in a great performance and, in the second half in particular, we completely outplayed a team which took 3 of our best players away from us this summer. The only criticism you could find was the common problem of not converting enough chances--Davis should've scored and Schneiderlin was very unlucky when he hit the crossbar, although credit where it's due that was an early contender for "save of the season" from Mignolet. At the back, we were unbreakable for the whole game bar one moment in the second half where we should've beaten Sterling to the header which led to Sturridge's goal. The first goal was mostly down to the stunning pass from Henderson, not particularly bad defending. Yoshida played very well after the first 20 or so minutes when he looked a bit unassured. Bertrand made a very good debut too, on the evidence of that performance he is on the same level as Shaw (albeit Shaw is a few years younger). Wanyama and Schneiderlin completely bossed the midfield in the second half, Wanyama in particular made a lot of good tackles and interceptions and Schneiderlin's passing was impressive as always (some were saying he didn't get involved enough, despite him making more passes and covering the most distance than anyone else in our team). Midfield is an area where we are very strong, with Cork and Taider on the bench plus Ward-Prowse can play there too. The front 3 linked up very well, I was very impressed by Ward-Prowse--his set pieces could be a crucial asset this season. What interested me about Tadic is how he is actually not as similar to Lallana as I first thought, tactically and physically. He's not as much of a lightweight--he can hold the ball up well--and also whilst Lallana had a "free role", roaming everywhere on the pitch and all the attacking play going through him, Tadic was almost exclusively on the left hand side. This shows we aren't so reliant on him in attack, which makes it harder for teams to play against us (last season other teams realised if they stopped us supplying Lallana, we were only a fraction as effective going forward). We need to give Gardos a few games so we can compare him against our other defenders, and I'd like to see Targett try and break into the team this season, like how Chambers did last season. We could also experiment with different set-ups in midfield, since we have so many good midfielders. Perhaps in games against top teams like Chelsea/City we should play a very defensive midfield (Cork, Wanyama and Schneiderlin) and against weaker teams a more attacking midfield? (Davis and Taider come to mind). Up front, it'll be interesting to see what Koeman will do when Jay Rod is back--will he put Jay Rod on the left, swap Tadic out to the right and drop Ward-Prowse into midfield? Or maybe put Rodriguez and Pellé up front together and Tadic in the no 10 role? (like a 4-3-1-2) I'm still a bit unsure whether not signing any more CBs is a good idea, it depends how good Gardos turns out to be I suppose. If he's better than Lovren was, maybe we can cope but otherwise I still think our lack of depth at CB will be a problem. Maybe another winger/striker as well, though if Ward-Prowse starts scoring goals this season then the front 3 we had against Liverpool will prove very strong, and we still have Jay Rod when he returns. I think after 8 or so games we'll have a clear picture of how good we are comparatively with the rest of the league and from there we can make a realistic objective for the season--with so many changes and new players over the summer it's difficult to do that right now. At a minimum we should be aiming for 10th maybe? But if we go on to collect 15-18 or points from the next 7 games (Tottenham is the only potentially difficult game coming up) perhaps we should be considering breaking into the top 7.[/p][/quote]"Yoshida played very well after the first 20 or so"...?! Yoshida had a terrible game. We desperately need more strength at CB. Fonte was superb, Gardos is an unknown quantity at present. We need quality and back-up too. Unfortunately, neither Hoojveld/Yoshida are good enough at the level we aspire to.[/p][/quote]Did you actually watch the game, or are you knocking Yoshida because it is now fashionable to do so, on this forum? He was no more terrible, than any other player in the team. Costa Baz
  • Score: 2

7:56pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Blue means Success says...

damoose wrote:
St Forlife says...

An excellent performance and one that made me feel confident - it may take 7 or 8 games for them to gel but that only means they will get better.

Did anyone see RL's interview with Sky before the game? He was as always such a gentleman and spoke so highly of SFC and that he will always be a fan - the man has no ego and he is just an excellent example to young players in terms of believing in yourself and then how to hold yourself and show respect - class. When asked if he had fears for Saints fans given the exodus in the summer his reacxtion was very interesting. He pasused a long time and chose his words very carefully, eventually saying that the owner has surrounded herself with people she believes will do a good job - only time will tell if she is right. It was not just the words but the way he delivered them - very well and professional - but very interesting too. Can't help but feel that many of those exiting did so less because nof big offers elsewhere but more to do with strategy foir the club going forward - quite interesting.

Anyway - we shall see

---------------
Yes I saw that good stuff also saw the Brendan Rogers interview he says we sold away our champions league ambitions so all the players wanted out..seems 8th is the ceiling now,but i always wanted us to win the title even if its just once
Will only ever be in your dreams
[quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: St Forlife says... An excellent performance and one that made me feel confident - it may take 7 or 8 games for them to gel but that only means they will get better. Did anyone see RL's interview with Sky before the game? He was as always such a gentleman and spoke so highly of SFC and that he will always be a fan - the man has no ego and he is just an excellent example to young players in terms of believing in yourself and then how to hold yourself and show respect - class. When asked if he had fears for Saints fans given the exodus in the summer his reacxtion was very interesting. He pasused a long time and chose his words very carefully, eventually saying that the owner has surrounded herself with people she believes will do a good job - only time will tell if she is right. It was not just the words but the way he delivered them - very well and professional - but very interesting too. Can't help but feel that many of those exiting did so less because nof big offers elsewhere but more to do with strategy foir the club going forward - quite interesting. Anyway - we shall see --------------- Yes I saw that good stuff also saw the Brendan Rogers interview he says we sold away our champions league ambitions so all the players wanted out..seems 8th is the ceiling now,but i always wanted us to win the title even if its just once[/p][/quote]Will only ever be in your dreams Blue means Success
  • Score: -1

7:56pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Chapperall says...

Based on that performance yesterday does anyone believe Liverpool will do well in the Champions league? Can't see it somehow and it looks like Ricky will spend most of the time on the bench.
I also can't see how Lallana will fit in as there are too many similar players!
Brenda's sniping about Saints having to sell all their players as they wanted to play for the bigger clubs stuck in my throat. I hope he will be made to eat his words. Lovren find not look comfortable the 2nd half when the pressure was on!
Based on that performance yesterday does anyone believe Liverpool will do well in the Champions league? Can't see it somehow and it looks like Ricky will spend most of the time on the bench. I also can't see how Lallana will fit in as there are too many similar players! Brenda's sniping about Saints having to sell all their players as they wanted to play for the bigger clubs stuck in my throat. I hope he will be made to eat his words. Lovren find not look comfortable the 2nd half when the pressure was on! Chapperall
  • Score: 5

8:03pm Mon 18 Aug 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Very encouraging performance but did still show up the two weaknesses we had last year have to be solved.

Giving away soft goals - proves we still need a better CB who can organize the defence.

Missed chances - proves we still need a top Goalscorer, we had more than Liverpool and would have got something out of the game if we had one.

Only two weeks left to get them in, then we will be a better team than last season.

COYR&WS
Very encouraging performance but did still show up the two weaknesses we had last year have to be solved. Giving away soft goals - proves we still need a better CB who can organize the defence. Missed chances - proves we still need a top Goalscorer, we had more than Liverpool and would have got something out of the game if we had one. Only two weeks left to get them in, then we will be a better team than last season. COYR&WS NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 2

8:19pm Mon 18 Aug 14

saintbobby says...

notaclue wrote:
jerseysaint wrote:
once Koeman has a few more weeks with the players i think we will be very difficult to beat.
Also when Jay Rod comes back into the side the attack should be quite powerful. Hoping Ramirez will be given a chance as he may have a good year. I do think we need another strong defender.
I think Gaston has just about run out of chances - but maybe one more try.
Chat on another thread about Gaston's international colleague Gonsalez.

If we got him, it might just light a spark in Gaston who, to be fair, has shown glimpses of exciting ability.

We know one member of the club was not keen on speaking English, so a compatriot for Gaston might work wonders. Mind you, perhaps Gaston already speaks English better than some of us!
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jerseysaint[/bold] wrote: once Koeman has a few more weeks with the players i think we will be very difficult to beat. Also when Jay Rod comes back into the side the attack should be quite powerful. Hoping Ramirez will be given a chance as he may have a good year. I do think we need another strong defender.[/p][/quote]I think Gaston has just about run out of chances - but maybe one more try.[/p][/quote]Chat on another thread about Gaston's international colleague Gonsalez. If we got him, it might just light a spark in Gaston who, to be fair, has shown glimpses of exciting ability. We know one member of the club was not keen on speaking English, so a compatriot for Gaston might work wonders. Mind you, perhaps Gaston already speaks English better than some of us! saintbobby
  • Score: 0

8:19pm Mon 18 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Blistering Barnacles someone has to grow a thick black beard. Precisely brother.
Blistering Barnacles someone has to grow a thick black beard. Precisely brother. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 3

8:30pm Mon 18 Aug 14

sparky130a says...

JWP performed very well in what appeared a more advanced position.

The missed chances would indicate we do need an accomplished finisher. Problem is, i don't believe there's one on the market so it's rather a moot point.

Clyne continues to impress me, how he hasn't been given a chance for England before Johnson is a mystery.

Pelle, the jury is still out but that's to be expected.

Wanyama seemed like the player i thought we signed last season,much better.

All in all, a good start.
JWP performed very well in what appeared a more advanced position. The missed chances would indicate we do need an accomplished finisher. Problem is, i don't believe there's one on the market so it's rather a moot point. Clyne continues to impress me, how he hasn't been given a chance for England before Johnson is a mystery. Pelle, the jury is still out but that's to be expected. Wanyama seemed like the player i thought we signed last season,much better. All in all, a good start. sparky130a
  • Score: 4

8:43pm Mon 18 Aug 14

M.U.CS1 says...

Very poor Liverpool team 3 points, Southampton 0 points , Says it all really !
Very poor Liverpool team 3 points, Southampton 0 points , Says it all really ! M.U.CS1
  • Score: -10

8:45pm Mon 18 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Taider scored for U21's in a 1 1 draw with Fulham
Taider scored for U21's in a 1 1 draw with Fulham OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

8:46pm Mon 18 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

M.U.CS1 wrote:
Very poor Liverpool team 3 points, Southampton 0 points , Says it all really !
Very poor United lost 1 2 to Swansea, says even more, if you were actually a Manc.
[quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: Very poor Liverpool team 3 points, Southampton 0 points , Says it all really ![/p][/quote]Very poor United lost 1 2 to Swansea, says even more, if you were actually a Manc. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

8:47pm Mon 18 Aug 14

florida saint says...

sparky130a wrote:
JWP performed very well in what appeared a more advanced position.

The missed chances would indicate we do need an accomplished finisher. Problem is, i don't believe there's one on the market so it's rather a moot point.

Clyne continues to impress me, how he hasn't been given a chance for England before Johnson is a mystery.

Pelle, the jury is still out but that's to be expected.

Wanyama seemed like the player i thought we signed last season,much better.

All in all, a good start.
good point regarding clyne. but ssshhhhhh regarding England , we all knows what happens after an England call up, u t s
[quote][p][bold]sparky130a[/bold] wrote: JWP performed very well in what appeared a more advanced position. The missed chances would indicate we do need an accomplished finisher. Problem is, i don't believe there's one on the market so it's rather a moot point. Clyne continues to impress me, how he hasn't been given a chance for England before Johnson is a mystery. Pelle, the jury is still out but that's to be expected. Wanyama seemed like the player i thought we signed last season,much better. All in all, a good start.[/p][/quote]good point regarding clyne. but ssshhhhhh regarding England , we all knows what happens after an England call up, u t s florida saint
  • Score: 2

8:48pm Mon 18 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Not watching it but Burnley 1 3 down to Chelsea at mo. Not a foreigner in sight in the Burnley squad.
Not watching it but Burnley 1 3 down to Chelsea at mo. Not a foreigner in sight in the Burnley squad. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 3

9:43pm Mon 18 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Blue means Success wrote:
damoose wrote:
St Forlife says...

An excellent performance and one that made me feel confident - it may take 7 or 8 games for them to gel but that only means they will get better.

Did anyone see RL's interview with Sky before the game? He was as always such a gentleman and spoke so highly of SFC and that he will always be a fan - the man has no ego and he is just an excellent example to young players in terms of believing in yourself and then how to hold yourself and show respect - class. When asked if he had fears for Saints fans given the exodus in the summer his reacxtion was very interesting. He pasused a long time and chose his words very carefully, eventually saying that the owner has surrounded herself with people she believes will do a good job - only time will tell if she is right. It was not just the words but the way he delivered them - very well and professional - but very interesting too. Can't help but feel that many of those exiting did so less because nof big offers elsewhere but more to do with strategy foir the club going forward - quite interesting.

Anyway - we shall see

---------------
Yes I saw that good stuff also saw the Brendan Rogers interview he says we sold away our champions league ambitions so all the players wanted out..seems 8th is the ceiling now,but i always wanted us to win the title even if its just once
Will only ever be in your dreams
Our dreams being just a tad more likely to come to fruition than yours though eh!?
[quote][p][bold]Blue means Success[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: St Forlife says... An excellent performance and one that made me feel confident - it may take 7 or 8 games for them to gel but that only means they will get better. Did anyone see RL's interview with Sky before the game? He was as always such a gentleman and spoke so highly of SFC and that he will always be a fan - the man has no ego and he is just an excellent example to young players in terms of believing in yourself and then how to hold yourself and show respect - class. When asked if he had fears for Saints fans given the exodus in the summer his reacxtion was very interesting. He pasused a long time and chose his words very carefully, eventually saying that the owner has surrounded herself with people she believes will do a good job - only time will tell if she is right. It was not just the words but the way he delivered them - very well and professional - but very interesting too. Can't help but feel that many of those exiting did so less because nof big offers elsewhere but more to do with strategy foir the club going forward - quite interesting. Anyway - we shall see --------------- Yes I saw that good stuff also saw the Brendan Rogers interview he says we sold away our champions league ambitions so all the players wanted out..seems 8th is the ceiling now,but i always wanted us to win the title even if its just once[/p][/quote]Will only ever be in your dreams[/p][/quote]Our dreams being just a tad more likely to come to fruition than yours though eh!? jls217
  • Score: 1

9:54pm Mon 18 Aug 14

sparky130a says...

florida saint wrote:
sparky130a wrote:
JWP performed very well in what appeared a more advanced position.

The missed chances would indicate we do need an accomplished finisher. Problem is, i don't believe there's one on the market so it's rather a moot point.

Clyne continues to impress me, how he hasn't been given a chance for England before Johnson is a mystery.

Pelle, the jury is still out but that's to be expected.

Wanyama seemed like the player i thought we signed last season,much better.

All in all, a good start.
good point regarding clyne. but ssshhhhhh regarding England , we all knows what happens after an England call up, u t s
You get injured or warm a seat near the Mersey?

Any player like that i don't want anyway...
[quote][p][bold]florida saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sparky130a[/bold] wrote: JWP performed very well in what appeared a more advanced position. The missed chances would indicate we do need an accomplished finisher. Problem is, i don't believe there's one on the market so it's rather a moot point. Clyne continues to impress me, how he hasn't been given a chance for England before Johnson is a mystery. Pelle, the jury is still out but that's to be expected. Wanyama seemed like the player i thought we signed last season,much better. All in all, a good start.[/p][/quote]good point regarding clyne. but ssshhhhhh regarding England , we all knows what happens after an England call up, u t s[/p][/quote]You get injured or warm a seat near the Mersey? Any player like that i don't want anyway... sparky130a
  • Score: 0

10:06pm Mon 18 Aug 14

north wales saint 2 says...

A day later and all my friends who support teams up north said we were the better team.People on here last night blaming defensive errors but if we had taken our chances,then it could have should have been the Saints with the three points.People still on here harping on about how we need another C B.Can,t believe this,have been a big fan of our new captain for ages and if Gardos is as good as we are led to believe then if either of them gets an injury Yoshida will do a good job like yesterday.Missed chances cost us big time yesterday and that is not to blame anybody in our side.A really impressive all round performance.I think the team already looks more solid than what we had last year,
A day later and all my friends who support teams up north said we were the better team.People on here last night blaming defensive errors but if we had taken our chances,then it could have should have been the Saints with the three points.People still on here harping on about how we need another C B.Can,t believe this,have been a big fan of our new captain for ages and if Gardos is as good as we are led to believe then if either of them gets an injury Yoshida will do a good job like yesterday.Missed chances cost us big time yesterday and that is not to blame anybody in our side.A really impressive all round performance.I think the team already looks more solid than what we had last year, north wales saint 2
  • Score: 5

10:08pm Mon 18 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Costa Baz wrote:
rick0601 wrote:
SaintsFan97 wrote:
I have to admit I was worrying that our team would take a while to gel together after all the changes over the summer, and that it would take a while before we started playing very well. I was proven completely wrong yesterday, the team played excellently--every player put in a great performance and, in the second half in particular, we completely outplayed a team which took 3 of our best players away from us this summer. The only criticism you could find was the common problem of not converting enough chances--Davis should've scored and Schneiderlin was very unlucky when he hit the crossbar, although credit where it's due that was an early contender for "save of the season" from Mignolet.
At the back, we were unbreakable for the whole game bar one moment in the second half where we should've beaten Sterling to the header which led to Sturridge's goal. The first goal was mostly down to the stunning pass from Henderson, not particularly bad defending. Yoshida played very well after the first 20 or so minutes when he looked a bit unassured. Bertrand made a very good debut too, on the evidence of that performance he is on the same level as Shaw (albeit Shaw is a few years younger).
Wanyama and Schneiderlin completely bossed the midfield in the second half, Wanyama in particular made a lot of good tackles and interceptions and Schneiderlin's passing was impressive as always (some were saying he didn't get involved enough, despite him making more passes and covering the most distance than anyone else in our team). Midfield is an area where we are very strong, with Cork and Taider on the bench plus Ward-Prowse can play there too.
The front 3 linked up very well, I was very impressed by Ward-Prowse--his set pieces could be a crucial asset this season. What interested me about Tadic is how he is actually not as similar to Lallana as I first thought, tactically and physically. He's not as much of a lightweight--he can hold the ball up well--and also whilst Lallana had a "free role", roaming everywhere on the pitch and all the attacking play going through him, Tadic was almost exclusively on the left hand side. This shows we aren't so reliant on him in attack, which makes it harder for teams to play against us (last season other teams realised if they stopped us supplying Lallana, we were only a fraction as effective going forward).
We need to give Gardos a few games so we can compare him against our other defenders, and I'd like to see Targett try and break into the team this season, like how Chambers did last season. We could also experiment with different set-ups in midfield, since we have so many good midfielders. Perhaps in games against top teams like Chelsea/City we should play a very defensive midfield (Cork, Wanyama and Schneiderlin) and against weaker teams a more attacking midfield? (Davis and Taider come to mind). Up front, it'll be interesting to see what Koeman will do when Jay Rod is back--will he put Jay Rod on the left, swap Tadic out to the right and drop Ward-Prowse into midfield? Or maybe put Rodriguez and Pellé up front together and Tadic in the no 10 role? (like a 4-3-1-2)
I'm still a bit unsure whether not signing any more CBs is a good idea, it depends how good Gardos turns out to be I suppose. If he's better than Lovren was, maybe we can cope but otherwise I still think our lack of depth at CB will be a problem. Maybe another winger/striker as well, though if Ward-Prowse starts scoring goals this season then the front 3 we had against Liverpool will prove very strong, and we still have Jay Rod when he returns.
I think after 8 or so games we'll have a clear picture of how good we are comparatively with the rest of the league and from there we can make a realistic objective for the season--with so many changes and new players over the summer it's difficult to do that right now. At a minimum we should be aiming for 10th maybe? But if we go on to collect 15-18 or points from the next 7 games (Tottenham is the only potentially difficult game coming up) perhaps we should be considering breaking into the top 7.
"Yoshida played very well after the first 20 or so"...?!

Yoshida had a terrible game. We desperately need more strength at CB. Fonte was superb, Gardos is an unknown quantity at present. We need quality and back-up too. Unfortunately, neither Hoojveld/Yoshida are good enough at the level we aspire to.
Did you actually watch the game, or are you knocking Yoshida because it is now fashionable to do so, on this forum?

He was no more terrible, than any other player in the team.
Terrible, are you for real?
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rick0601[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintsFan97[/bold] wrote: I have to admit I was worrying that our team would take a while to gel together after all the changes over the summer, and that it would take a while before we started playing very well. I was proven completely wrong yesterday, the team played excellently--every player put in a great performance and, in the second half in particular, we completely outplayed a team which took 3 of our best players away from us this summer. The only criticism you could find was the common problem of not converting enough chances--Davis should've scored and Schneiderlin was very unlucky when he hit the crossbar, although credit where it's due that was an early contender for "save of the season" from Mignolet. At the back, we were unbreakable for the whole game bar one moment in the second half where we should've beaten Sterling to the header which led to Sturridge's goal. The first goal was mostly down to the stunning pass from Henderson, not particularly bad defending. Yoshida played very well after the first 20 or so minutes when he looked a bit unassured. Bertrand made a very good debut too, on the evidence of that performance he is on the same level as Shaw (albeit Shaw is a few years younger). Wanyama and Schneiderlin completely bossed the midfield in the second half, Wanyama in particular made a lot of good tackles and interceptions and Schneiderlin's passing was impressive as always (some were saying he didn't get involved enough, despite him making more passes and covering the most distance than anyone else in our team). Midfield is an area where we are very strong, with Cork and Taider on the bench plus Ward-Prowse can play there too. The front 3 linked up very well, I was very impressed by Ward-Prowse--his set pieces could be a crucial asset this season. What interested me about Tadic is how he is actually not as similar to Lallana as I first thought, tactically and physically. He's not as much of a lightweight--he can hold the ball up well--and also whilst Lallana had a "free role", roaming everywhere on the pitch and all the attacking play going through him, Tadic was almost exclusively on the left hand side. This shows we aren't so reliant on him in attack, which makes it harder for teams to play against us (last season other teams realised if they stopped us supplying Lallana, we were only a fraction as effective going forward). We need to give Gardos a few games so we can compare him against our other defenders, and I'd like to see Targett try and break into the team this season, like how Chambers did last season. We could also experiment with different set-ups in midfield, since we have so many good midfielders. Perhaps in games against top teams like Chelsea/City we should play a very defensive midfield (Cork, Wanyama and Schneiderlin) and against weaker teams a more attacking midfield? (Davis and Taider come to mind). Up front, it'll be interesting to see what Koeman will do when Jay Rod is back--will he put Jay Rod on the left, swap Tadic out to the right and drop Ward-Prowse into midfield? Or maybe put Rodriguez and Pellé up front together and Tadic in the no 10 role? (like a 4-3-1-2) I'm still a bit unsure whether not signing any more CBs is a good idea, it depends how good Gardos turns out to be I suppose. If he's better than Lovren was, maybe we can cope but otherwise I still think our lack of depth at CB will be a problem. Maybe another winger/striker as well, though if Ward-Prowse starts scoring goals this season then the front 3 we had against Liverpool will prove very strong, and we still have Jay Rod when he returns. I think after 8 or so games we'll have a clear picture of how good we are comparatively with the rest of the league and from there we can make a realistic objective for the season--with so many changes and new players over the summer it's difficult to do that right now. At a minimum we should be aiming for 10th maybe? But if we go on to collect 15-18 or points from the next 7 games (Tottenham is the only potentially difficult game coming up) perhaps we should be considering breaking into the top 7.[/p][/quote]"Yoshida played very well after the first 20 or so"...?! Yoshida had a terrible game. We desperately need more strength at CB. Fonte was superb, Gardos is an unknown quantity at present. We need quality and back-up too. Unfortunately, neither Hoojveld/Yoshida are good enough at the level we aspire to.[/p][/quote]Did you actually watch the game, or are you knocking Yoshida because it is now fashionable to do so, on this forum? He was no more terrible, than any other player in the team.[/p][/quote]Terrible, are you for real? fascia123
  • Score: 1

10:14pm Mon 18 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

north wales saint 2 wrote:
A day later and all my friends who support teams up north said we were the better team.People on here last night blaming defensive errors but if we had taken our chances,then it could have should have been the Saints with the three points.People still on here harping on about how we need another C B.Can,t believe this,have been a big fan of our new captain for ages and if Gardos is as good as we are led to believe then if either of them gets an injury Yoshida will do a good job like yesterday.Missed chances cost us big time yesterday and that is not to blame anybody in our side.A really impressive all round performance.I think the team already looks more solid than what we had last year,
It was a great performance, I don't think anyone has a problem with our captain I believe they are just worried we don't have good cover if gardos or SJF get injured.
[quote][p][bold]north wales saint 2[/bold] wrote: A day later and all my friends who support teams up north said we were the better team.People on here last night blaming defensive errors but if we had taken our chances,then it could have should have been the Saints with the three points.People still on here harping on about how we need another C B.Can,t believe this,have been a big fan of our new captain for ages and if Gardos is as good as we are led to believe then if either of them gets an injury Yoshida will do a good job like yesterday.Missed chances cost us big time yesterday and that is not to blame anybody in our side.A really impressive all round performance.I think the team already looks more solid than what we had last year,[/p][/quote]It was a great performance, I don't think anyone has a problem with our captain I believe they are just worried we don't have good cover if gardos or SJF get injured. fascia123
  • Score: 1

10:22pm Mon 18 Aug 14

north wales saint 2 says...

fascia123 wrote:
north wales saint 2 wrote:
A day later and all my friends who support teams up north said we were the better team.People on here last night blaming defensive errors but if we had taken our chances,then it could have should have been the Saints with the three points.People still on here harping on about how we need another C B.Can,t believe this,have been a big fan of our new captain for ages and if Gardos is as good as we are led to believe then if either of them gets an injury Yoshida will do a good job like yesterday.Missed chances cost us big time yesterday and that is not to blame anybody in our side.A really impressive all round performance.I think the team already looks more solid than what we had last year,
It was a great performance, I don't think anyone has a problem with our captain I believe they are just worried we don't have good cover if gardos or SJF get injured.
Yes they do if my memory serves me correctly we have had loads of posters on here recently saying we needed 2 quality centre backs as after the departure of Lovren we were not good enough in central defence.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]north wales saint 2[/bold] wrote: A day later and all my friends who support teams up north said we were the better team.People on here last night blaming defensive errors but if we had taken our chances,then it could have should have been the Saints with the three points.People still on here harping on about how we need another C B.Can,t believe this,have been a big fan of our new captain for ages and if Gardos is as good as we are led to believe then if either of them gets an injury Yoshida will do a good job like yesterday.Missed chances cost us big time yesterday and that is not to blame anybody in our side.A really impressive all round performance.I think the team already looks more solid than what we had last year,[/p][/quote]It was a great performance, I don't think anyone has a problem with our captain I believe they are just worried we don't have good cover if gardos or SJF get injured.[/p][/quote]Yes they do if my memory serves me correctly we have had loads of posters on here recently saying we needed 2 quality centre backs as after the departure of Lovren we were not good enough in central defence. north wales saint 2
  • Score: 0

10:39pm Mon 18 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Skates have pushed the boat out again and splashed the cash on a GK, well actually it's Peter Brezovan on a non-contract short term deal.
Skates have pushed the boat out again and splashed the cash on a GK, well actually it's Peter Brezovan on a non-contract short term deal. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

10:42pm Mon 18 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

north wales saint 2 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
north wales saint 2 wrote:
A day later and all my friends who support teams up north said we were the better team.People on here last night blaming defensive errors but if we had taken our chances,then it could have should have been the Saints with the three points.People still on here harping on about how we need another C B.Can,t believe this,have been a big fan of our new captain for ages and if Gardos is as good as we are led to believe then if either of them gets an injury Yoshida will do a good job like yesterday.Missed chances cost us big time yesterday and that is not to blame anybody in our side.A really impressive all round performance.I think the team already looks more solid than what we had last year,
It was a great performance, I don't think anyone has a problem with our captain I believe they are just worried we don't have good cover if gardos or SJF get injured.
Yes they do if my memory serves me correctly we have had loads of posters on here recently saying we needed 2 quality centre backs as after the departure of Lovren we were not good enough in central defence.
Must be the neggies, I thought Fonte covered for Lovrens errors quite a few times last year certainly after Lovren returned from his injury and that's not sour grapes, he really did.

Fonte is a top player and with RKs influence I am sure the little lapses will disappear I here good things about the new guy but for me I think we could do with one more defender, someone like Micah Richards or Rojo that can play across the back line would be good.

Exciting times I was so made up after all the Shyte that came saints way from all angles that we played the way we did on Sunday.
[quote][p][bold]north wales saint 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]north wales saint 2[/bold] wrote: A day later and all my friends who support teams up north said we were the better team.People on here last night blaming defensive errors but if we had taken our chances,then it could have should have been the Saints with the three points.People still on here harping on about how we need another C B.Can,t believe this,have been a big fan of our new captain for ages and if Gardos is as good as we are led to believe then if either of them gets an injury Yoshida will do a good job like yesterday.Missed chances cost us big time yesterday and that is not to blame anybody in our side.A really impressive all round performance.I think the team already looks more solid than what we had last year,[/p][/quote]It was a great performance, I don't think anyone has a problem with our captain I believe they are just worried we don't have good cover if gardos or SJF get injured.[/p][/quote]Yes they do if my memory serves me correctly we have had loads of posters on here recently saying we needed 2 quality centre backs as after the departure of Lovren we were not good enough in central defence.[/p][/quote]Must be the neggies, I thought Fonte covered for Lovrens errors quite a few times last year certainly after Lovren returned from his injury and that's not sour grapes, he really did. Fonte is a top player and with RKs influence I am sure the little lapses will disappear I here good things about the new guy but for me I think we could do with one more defender, someone like Micah Richards or Rojo that can play across the back line would be good. Exciting times I was so made up after all the Shyte that came saints way from all angles that we played the way we did on Sunday. fascia123
  • Score: 6

9:48am Tue 19 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
M.U.CS1 wrote:
Very poor Liverpool team 3 points, Southampton 0 points , Says it all really !
Very poor United lost 1 2 to Swansea, says even more, if you were actually a Manc.
Its not a manure fan at all!
Cant remember who said it but if you turn its name around it becomes the name the filthy fish fiddlers call us, coincidence?
I'm not surprised they come on here as fans of other clubs, would you want to admit to being a poopey fan?
Which fish fiddling fool would want to come on here in an attempt to wind US up when they are in L2 with no hope of getting out for years and will probably never get back to the prem. They don't even own the club, so cant throw that at us!
Just like liverhampton they are living on past glory and are still trying to convince themselves that they are important and a 'big' club, let them, its funny watching them flounder around at the football league trapdoor!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: Very poor Liverpool team 3 points, Southampton 0 points , Says it all really ![/p][/quote]Very poor United lost 1 2 to Swansea, says even more, if you were actually a Manc.[/p][/quote]Its not a manure fan at all! Cant remember who said it but if you turn its name around it becomes the name the filthy fish fiddlers call us, coincidence? I'm not surprised they come on here as fans of other clubs, would you want to admit to being a poopey fan? Which fish fiddling fool would want to come on here in an attempt to wind US up when they are in L2 with no hope of getting out for years and will probably never get back to the prem. They don't even own the club, so cant throw that at us! Just like liverhampton they are living on past glory and are still trying to convince themselves that they are important and a 'big' club, let them, its funny watching them flounder around at the football league trapdoor! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 0

11:36am Tue 19 Aug 14

HampshireEd says...

jerseysaint wrote:
once Koeman has a few more weeks with the players i think we will be very difficult to beat.
Also when Jay Rod comes back into the side the attack should be quite powerful. Hoping Ramirez will be given a chance as he may have a good year. I do think we need another strong defender.
Ramirez is absolute sh*te ! There's a reason he never gets played and it's because he puts in an effort for 20 minutes a game if that !
[quote][p][bold]jerseysaint[/bold] wrote: once Koeman has a few more weeks with the players i think we will be very difficult to beat. Also when Jay Rod comes back into the side the attack should be quite powerful. Hoping Ramirez will be given a chance as he may have a good year. I do think we need another strong defender.[/p][/quote]Ramirez is absolute sh*te ! There's a reason he never gets played and it's because he puts in an effort for 20 minutes a game if that ! HampshireEd
  • Score: 0

1:44pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Beer Monster says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Not watching it but Burnley 1 3 down to Chelsea at mo. Not a foreigner in sight in the Burnley squad.
I managed to catch the second half in a pub in Glasgow - already looks like Chelsea and Citeh will be the teams to beat at the top. Everyone else looks like they could finish anywhere else. Third place, anyone?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Not watching it but Burnley 1 3 down to Chelsea at mo. Not a foreigner in sight in the Burnley squad.[/p][/quote]I managed to catch the second half in a pub in Glasgow - already looks like Chelsea and Citeh will be the teams to beat at the top. Everyone else looks like they could finish anywhere else. Third place, anyone? Beer Monster
  • Score: 1

5:07pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Forest Saint says...

It was great the way Tadic mugged Lovren for our goal!
It was great the way Tadic mugged Lovren for our goal! Forest Saint
  • Score: 1

12:13am Wed 20 Aug 14

Tirau Dan says...

rick0601 wrote:
SaintsFan97 wrote:
I have to admit I was worrying that our team would take a while to gel together after all the changes over the summer, and that it would take a while before we started playing very well. I was proven completely wrong yesterday, the team played excellently--every player put in a great performance and, in the second half in particular, we completely outplayed a team which took 3 of our best players away from us this summer. The only criticism you could find was the common problem of not converting enough chances--Davis should've scored and Schneiderlin was very unlucky when he hit the crossbar, although credit where it's due that was an early contender for "save of the season" from Mignolet.
At the back, we were unbreakable for the whole game bar one moment in the second half where we should've beaten Sterling to the header which led to Sturridge's goal. The first goal was mostly down to the stunning pass from Henderson, not particularly bad defending. Yoshida played very well after the first 20 or so minutes when he looked a bit unassured. Bertrand made a very good debut too, on the evidence of that performance he is on the same level as Shaw (albeit Shaw is a few years younger).
Wanyama and Schneiderlin completely bossed the midfield in the second half, Wanyama in particular made a lot of good tackles and interceptions and Schneiderlin's passing was impressive as always (some were saying he didn't get involved enough, despite him making more passes and covering the most distance than anyone else in our team). Midfield is an area where we are very strong, with Cork and Taider on the bench plus Ward-Prowse can play there too.
The front 3 linked up very well, I was very impressed by Ward-Prowse--his set pieces could be a crucial asset this season. What interested me about Tadic is how he is actually not as similar to Lallana as I first thought, tactically and physically. He's not as much of a lightweight--he can hold the ball up well--and also whilst Lallana had a "free role", roaming everywhere on the pitch and all the attacking play going through him, Tadic was almost exclusively on the left hand side. This shows we aren't so reliant on him in attack, which makes it harder for teams to play against us (last season other teams realised if they stopped us supplying Lallana, we were only a fraction as effective going forward).
We need to give Gardos a few games so we can compare him against our other defenders, and I'd like to see Targett try and break into the team this season, like how Chambers did last season. We could also experiment with different set-ups in midfield, since we have so many good midfielders. Perhaps in games against top teams like Chelsea/City we should play a very defensive midfield (Cork, Wanyama and Schneiderlin) and against weaker teams a more attacking midfield? (Davis and Taider come to mind). Up front, it'll be interesting to see what Koeman will do when Jay Rod is back--will he put Jay Rod on the left, swap Tadic out to the right and drop Ward-Prowse into midfield? Or maybe put Rodriguez and Pellé up front together and Tadic in the no 10 role? (like a 4-3-1-2)
I'm still a bit unsure whether not signing any more CBs is a good idea, it depends how good Gardos turns out to be I suppose. If he's better than Lovren was, maybe we can cope but otherwise I still think our lack of depth at CB will be a problem. Maybe another winger/striker as well, though if Ward-Prowse starts scoring goals this season then the front 3 we had against Liverpool will prove very strong, and we still have Jay Rod when he returns.
I think after 8 or so games we'll have a clear picture of how good we are comparatively with the rest of the league and from there we can make a realistic objective for the season--with so many changes and new players over the summer it's difficult to do that right now. At a minimum we should be aiming for 10th maybe? But if we go on to collect 15-18 or points from the next 7 games (Tottenham is the only potentially difficult game coming up) perhaps we should be considering breaking into the top 7.
"Yoshida played very well after the first 20 or so"...?!

Yoshida had a terrible game. We desperately need more strength at CB. Fonte was superb, Gardos is an unknown quantity at present. We need quality and back-up too. Unfortunately, neither Hoojveld/Yoshida are good enough at the level we aspire to.
Classy reviewing SF97 well worthy of a decent spot in the better press. Miglionet was their star but for that save and a couple of great takes off the line the points would not have all been theirs.
Maya Yoshida has obviously received some strong coaching from one of the best cbs ever in football and showed vast improvement on last year. His classy tackle late in the game stopped ended Sturridges dangerous entry in the box with only the keeper behind.
Mr Forster in our box looks immense.. came out well, held ever ball he should and didn't kick a single water bottle.
As for picking future teams, I'll pass and leave it to the gaffer but the depth and options created by Les, his staff and Ron look to be top shelf and put us in good shape to do very well. I just wish I could be there at SMS to shout sing and lose my voice in appreciation this weekend.. Good Luck All.. make it loud and proud. I'll be up at 2am NZ time loving Saints as always especially back in stripes.. COYR
[quote][p][bold]rick0601[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintsFan97[/bold] wrote: I have to admit I was worrying that our team would take a while to gel together after all the changes over the summer, and that it would take a while before we started playing very well. I was proven completely wrong yesterday, the team played excellently--every player put in a great performance and, in the second half in particular, we completely outplayed a team which took 3 of our best players away from us this summer. The only criticism you could find was the common problem of not converting enough chances--Davis should've scored and Schneiderlin was very unlucky when he hit the crossbar, although credit where it's due that was an early contender for "save of the season" from Mignolet. At the back, we were unbreakable for the whole game bar one moment in the second half where we should've beaten Sterling to the header which led to Sturridge's goal. The first goal was mostly down to the stunning pass from Henderson, not particularly bad defending. Yoshida played very well after the first 20 or so minutes when he looked a bit unassured. Bertrand made a very good debut too, on the evidence of that performance he is on the same level as Shaw (albeit Shaw is a few years younger). Wanyama and Schneiderlin completely bossed the midfield in the second half, Wanyama in particular made a lot of good tackles and interceptions and Schneiderlin's passing was impressive as always (some were saying he didn't get involved enough, despite him making more passes and covering the most distance than anyone else in our team). Midfield is an area where we are very strong, with Cork and Taider on the bench plus Ward-Prowse can play there too. The front 3 linked up very well, I was very impressed by Ward-Prowse--his set pieces could be a crucial asset this season. What interested me about Tadic is how he is actually not as similar to Lallana as I first thought, tactically and physically. He's not as much of a lightweight--he can hold the ball up well--and also whilst Lallana had a "free role", roaming everywhere on the pitch and all the attacking play going through him, Tadic was almost exclusively on the left hand side. This shows we aren't so reliant on him in attack, which makes it harder for teams to play against us (last season other teams realised if they stopped us supplying Lallana, we were only a fraction as effective going forward). We need to give Gardos a few games so we can compare him against our other defenders, and I'd like to see Targett try and break into the team this season, like how Chambers did last season. We could also experiment with different set-ups in midfield, since we have so many good midfielders. Perhaps in games against top teams like Chelsea/City we should play a very defensive midfield (Cork, Wanyama and Schneiderlin) and against weaker teams a more attacking midfield? (Davis and Taider come to mind). Up front, it'll be interesting to see what Koeman will do when Jay Rod is back--will he put Jay Rod on the left, swap Tadic out to the right and drop Ward-Prowse into midfield? Or maybe put Rodriguez and Pellé up front together and Tadic in the no 10 role? (like a 4-3-1-2) I'm still a bit unsure whether not signing any more CBs is a good idea, it depends how good Gardos turns out to be I suppose. If he's better than Lovren was, maybe we can cope but otherwise I still think our lack of depth at CB will be a problem. Maybe another winger/striker as well, though if Ward-Prowse starts scoring goals this season then the front 3 we had against Liverpool will prove very strong, and we still have Jay Rod when he returns. I think after 8 or so games we'll have a clear picture of how good we are comparatively with the rest of the league and from there we can make a realistic objective for the season--with so many changes and new players over the summer it's difficult to do that right now. At a minimum we should be aiming for 10th maybe? But if we go on to collect 15-18 or points from the next 7 games (Tottenham is the only potentially difficult game coming up) perhaps we should be considering breaking into the top 7.[/p][/quote]"Yoshida played very well after the first 20 or so"...?! Yoshida had a terrible game. We desperately need more strength at CB. Fonte was superb, Gardos is an unknown quantity at present. We need quality and back-up too. Unfortunately, neither Hoojveld/Yoshida are good enough at the level we aspire to.[/p][/quote]Classy reviewing SF97 well worthy of a decent spot in the better press. Miglionet was their star but for that save and a couple of great takes off the line the points would not have all been theirs. Maya Yoshida has obviously received some strong coaching from one of the best cbs ever in football and showed vast improvement on last year. His classy tackle late in the game stopped ended Sturridges dangerous entry in the box with only the keeper behind. Mr Forster in our box looks immense.. came out well, held ever ball he should and didn't kick a single water bottle. As for picking future teams, I'll pass and leave it to the gaffer but the depth and options created by Les, his staff and Ron look to be top shelf and put us in good shape to do very well. I just wish I could be there at SMS to shout sing and lose my voice in appreciation this weekend.. Good Luck All.. make it loud and proud. I'll be up at 2am NZ time loving Saints as always especially back in stripes.. COYR Tirau Dan
  • Score: 1

12:57am Wed 20 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
rick0601 wrote:
SaintsFan97 wrote:
I have to admit I was worrying that our team would take a while to gel together after all the changes over the summer, and that it would take a while before we started playing very well. I was proven completely wrong yesterday, the team played excellently--every player put in a great performance and, in the second half in particular, we completely outplayed a team which took 3 of our best players away from us this summer. The only criticism you could find was the common problem of not converting enough chances--Davis should've scored and Schneiderlin was very unlucky when he hit the crossbar, although credit where it's due that was an early contender for "save of the season" from Mignolet.
At the back, we were unbreakable for the whole game bar one moment in the second half where we should've beaten Sterling to the header which led to Sturridge's goal. The first goal was mostly down to the stunning pass from Henderson, not particularly bad defending. Yoshida played very well after the first 20 or so minutes when he looked a bit unassured. Bertrand made a very good debut too, on the evidence of that performance he is on the same level as Shaw (albeit Shaw is a few years younger).
Wanyama and Schneiderlin completely bossed the midfield in the second half, Wanyama in particular made a lot of good tackles and interceptions and Schneiderlin's passing was impressive as always (some were saying he didn't get involved enough, despite him making more passes and covering the most distance than anyone else in our team). Midfield is an area where we are very strong, with Cork and Taider on the bench plus Ward-Prowse can play there too.
The front 3 linked up very well, I was very impressed by Ward-Prowse--his set pieces could be a crucial asset this season. What interested me about Tadic is how he is actually not as similar to Lallana as I first thought, tactically and physically. He's not as much of a lightweight--he can hold the ball up well--and also whilst Lallana had a "free role", roaming everywhere on the pitch and all the attacking play going through him, Tadic was almost exclusively on the left hand side. This shows we aren't so reliant on him in attack, which makes it harder for teams to play against us (last season other teams realised if they stopped us supplying Lallana, we were only a fraction as effective going forward).
We need to give Gardos a few games so we can compare him against our other defenders, and I'd like to see Targett try and break into the team this season, like how Chambers did last season. We could also experiment with different set-ups in midfield, since we have so many good midfielders. Perhaps in games against top teams like Chelsea/City we should play a very defensive midfield (Cork, Wanyama and Schneiderlin) and against weaker teams a more attacking midfield? (Davis and Taider come to mind). Up front, it'll be interesting to see what Koeman will do when Jay Rod is back--will he put Jay Rod on the left, swap Tadic out to the right and drop Ward-Prowse into midfield? Or maybe put Rodriguez and Pellé up front together and Tadic in the no 10 role? (like a 4-3-1-2)
I'm still a bit unsure whether not signing any more CBs is a good idea, it depends how good Gardos turns out to be I suppose. If he's better than Lovren was, maybe we can cope but otherwise I still think our lack of depth at CB will be a problem. Maybe another winger/striker as well, though if Ward-Prowse starts scoring goals this season then the front 3 we had against Liverpool will prove very strong, and we still have Jay Rod when he returns.
I think after 8 or so games we'll have a clear picture of how good we are comparatively with the rest of the league and from there we can make a realistic objective for the season--with so many changes and new players over the summer it's difficult to do that right now. At a minimum we should be aiming for 10th maybe? But if we go on to collect 15-18 or points from the next 7 games (Tottenham is the only potentially difficult game coming up) perhaps we should be considering breaking into the top 7.
"Yoshida played very well after the first 20 or so"...?!

Yoshida had a terrible game. We desperately need more strength at CB. Fonte was superb, Gardos is an unknown quantity at present. We need quality and back-up too. Unfortunately, neither Hoojveld/Yoshida are good enough at the level we aspire to.
Classy reviewing SF97 well worthy of a decent spot in the better press. Miglionet was their star but for that save and a couple of great takes off the line the points would not have all been theirs.
Maya Yoshida has obviously received some strong coaching from one of the best cbs ever in football and showed vast improvement on last year. His classy tackle late in the game stopped ended Sturridges dangerous entry in the box with only the keeper behind.
Mr Forster in our box looks immense.. came out well, held ever ball he should and didn't kick a single water bottle.
As for picking future teams, I'll pass and leave it to the gaffer but the depth and options created by Les, his staff and Ron look to be top shelf and put us in good shape to do very well. I just wish I could be there at SMS to shout sing and lose my voice in appreciation this weekend.. Good Luck All.. make it loud and proud. I'll be up at 2am NZ time loving Saints as always especially back in stripes.. COYR
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[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rick0601[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintsFan97[/bold] wrote: I have to admit I was worrying that our team would take a while to gel together after all the changes over the summer, and that it would take a while before we started playing very well. I was proven completely wrong yesterday, the team played excellently--every player put in a great performance and, in the second half in particular, we completely outplayed a team which took 3 of our best players away from us this summer. The only criticism you could find was the common problem of not converting enough chances--Davis should've scored and Schneiderlin was very unlucky when he hit the crossbar, although credit where it's due that was an early contender for "save of the season" from Mignolet. At the back, we were unbreakable for the whole game bar one moment in the second half where we should've beaten Sterling to the header which led to Sturridge's goal. The first goal was mostly down to the stunning pass from Henderson, not particularly bad defending. Yoshida played very well after the first 20 or so minutes when he looked a bit unassured. Bertrand made a very good debut too, on the evidence of that performance he is on the same level as Shaw (albeit Shaw is a few years younger). Wanyama and Schneiderlin completely bossed the midfield in the second half, Wanyama in particular made a lot of good tackles and interceptions and Schneiderlin's passing was impressive as always (some were saying he didn't get involved enough, despite him making more passes and covering the most distance than anyone else in our team). Midfield is an area where we are very strong, with Cork and Taider on the bench plus Ward-Prowse can play there too. The front 3 linked up very well, I was very impressed by Ward-Prowse--his set pieces could be a crucial asset this season. What interested me about Tadic is how he is actually not as similar to Lallana as I first thought, tactically and physically. He's not as much of a lightweight--he can hold the ball up well--and also whilst Lallana had a "free role", roaming everywhere on the pitch and all the attacking play going through him, Tadic was almost exclusively on the left hand side. This shows we aren't so reliant on him in attack, which makes it harder for teams to play against us (last season other teams realised if they stopped us supplying Lallana, we were only a fraction as effective going forward). We need to give Gardos a few games so we can compare him against our other defenders, and I'd like to see Targett try and break into the team this season, like how Chambers did last season. We could also experiment with different set-ups in midfield, since we have so many good midfielders. Perhaps in games against top teams like Chelsea/City we should play a very defensive midfield (Cork, Wanyama and Schneiderlin) and against weaker teams a more attacking midfield? (Davis and Taider come to mind). Up front, it'll be interesting to see what Koeman will do when Jay Rod is back--will he put Jay Rod on the left, swap Tadic out to the right and drop Ward-Prowse into midfield? Or maybe put Rodriguez and Pellé up front together and Tadic in the no 10 role? (like a 4-3-1-2) I'm still a bit unsure whether not signing any more CBs is a good idea, it depends how good Gardos turns out to be I suppose. If he's better than Lovren was, maybe we can cope but otherwise I still think our lack of depth at CB will be a problem. Maybe another winger/striker as well, though if Ward-Prowse starts scoring goals this season then the front 3 we had against Liverpool will prove very strong, and we still have Jay Rod when he returns. I think after 8 or so games we'll have a clear picture of how good we are comparatively with the rest of the league and from there we can make a realistic objective for the season--with so many changes and new players over the summer it's difficult to do that right now. At a minimum we should be aiming for 10th maybe? But if we go on to collect 15-18 or points from the next 7 games (Tottenham is the only potentially difficult game coming up) perhaps we should be considering breaking into the top 7.[/p][/quote]"Yoshida played very well after the first 20 or so"...?! Yoshida had a terrible game. We desperately need more strength at CB. Fonte was superb, Gardos is an unknown quantity at present. We need quality and back-up too. Unfortunately, neither Hoojveld/Yoshida are good enough at the level we aspire to.[/p][/quote]Classy reviewing SF97 well worthy of a decent spot in the better press. Miglionet was their star but for that save and a couple of great takes off the line the points would not have all been theirs. Maya Yoshida has obviously received some strong coaching from one of the best cbs ever in football and showed vast improvement on last year. His classy tackle late in the game stopped ended Sturridges dangerous entry in the box with only the keeper behind. Mr Forster in our box looks immense.. came out well, held ever ball he should and didn't kick a single water bottle. As for picking future teams, I'll pass and leave it to the gaffer but the depth and options created by Les, his staff and Ron look to be top shelf and put us in good shape to do very well. I just wish I could be there at SMS to shout sing and lose my voice in appreciation this weekend.. Good Luck All.. make it loud and proud. I'll be up at 2am NZ time loving Saints as always especially back in stripes.. COYR[/p][/quote]Like it a lot fascia123
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