Ronald Koeman says the arrival of Florin Gardos represents the last centre-half signing of the summer at Southampton

Florin Gardos

Florin Gardos

First published in Sport Basingstoke Gazette: Photograph of the Author by , Senior Sports Reporter

Ronald Koeman has confirmed that Saints do not plan to sign any more centre-backs following the arrival of Florin Gardos.

The Romanian international joined the club this week in a £6m deal from Steaua Bucharest, signing a four-year contract at St Mary’s.

Despite that, Saints have continued to be linked with more defenders, including Aston Villa captain Ron Vlaar.

However, Koeman poured cold water on a potential reunion with the player he worked with at his previous club, Feyenoord.

“That’s not true, because we signed Gardos, and that’s it,” he said.

“That rumour was when I was in the pre-season in Belgium and the journalist of the television of Holland asked me about the situation of Vlaar and we spoke about Vlaar and of the World Cup, because I know the player.

“I had the player at Feyenoord and he is a great central defender.

“Of course, he was one of the names on our list, but now we are happy to have Florin Gardos in and now nothing more to others, even Ron Vlaar.”

Koeman believes Gardos is the right man to replace Dejan Lovren, who left for today’s opponents, Liverpool, in a £20m deal earlier this summer, and he is confident the 25-year-old will be a strong and versatile addition at the heart of defence.

“After Lovren left the club, our focus was to bring in a central defender, and he can play on the left side of the central defender position, he can play on the right side of the central defender position,” said Koeman.

“He’s a strong defender and he was already on the list on the club and we are very happy to bring in Gardos.”

A hamstring injury means that Gardos’ debut will have to wait a few weeks yet, meaning a likely partnership of team captain Jose Fonte and Maya Yoshida in central defence this afternoon.

It is certainly a tough start for Saints, travelling to last season’s runners-up in the Premier League.

However, the club can take inspiration from memories of a 1-0 win there a year ago, while Koeman himself oversaw a 2-0 Champions League victory for Benfica at Anfield in 2006.

“We know it’s a tough one, but everybody starts on nil, everybody is the first, and it’s different,” said the Saints boss.

“Everybody has to show their qualities and ambitions and I believe we are very well prepared.

“The players know what is winning at Anfield, I know as a manager what is winning at Anfield, and we are ready to play.”

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5:13am Sun 17 Aug 14

DisplacedFan says...

I will be up very early to watch the game live, hoping we an play well, but not happy with the lack of transfer spending.
I will be up very early to watch the game live, hoping we an play well, but not happy with the lack of transfer spending. DisplacedFan
  • Score: -64

6:10am Sun 17 Aug 14

Northam Block 40 says...

leaving for the game in 20mins cant wait to watch us smash Liverhampton !!!! COYR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
leaving for the game in 20mins cant wait to watch us smash Liverhampton !!!! COYR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Northam Block 40
  • Score: 42

6:15am Sun 17 Aug 14

Graham, North of Watford says...

DisplacedFan wrote:
I will be up very early to watch the game live, hoping we an play well, but not happy with the lack of transfer spending.
I'll be up nice and early as well but as Watford is at least within spitting distance of a Sky Receivr Ill be watching from Home sadly.

Looked for an oppotunity to comment on Ronzo. If you look at what he says on the Official site he does certainly put up a cracking good case for the Team and what it can achieve.

I've been accused of being naieve (and I accept the charge) in the past and, OF COURSE, Managers can only speak well of their team. I'm just saying that I like the way he speaks - on several broadcasts and I do feel good when I hear him.

Ronzo might just turn out to be one of our best signing this Season / Year / Millenium

Overall, quietly confident and relaxed about the new Season

COYR
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: I will be up very early to watch the game live, hoping we an play well, but not happy with the lack of transfer spending.[/p][/quote]I'll be up nice and early as well but as Watford is at least within spitting distance of a Sky Receivr Ill be watching from Home sadly. Looked for an oppotunity to comment on Ronzo. If you look at what he says on the Official site he does certainly put up a cracking good case for the Team and what it can achieve. I've been accused of being naieve (and I accept the charge) in the past and, OF COURSE, Managers can only speak well of their team. I'm just saying that I like the way he speaks - on several broadcasts and I do feel good when I hear him. Ronzo might just turn out to be one of our best signing this Season / Year / Millenium Overall, quietly confident and relaxed about the new Season COYR Graham, North of Watford
  • Score: 17

7:19am Sun 17 Aug 14

peregrine73 says...

Its clear that from RK statement that he has faith in our CB strength.On paper it still looks weak especially if injuries are sustained.Today's game has to be a tough baptism for the new signings to gel.Gardos will strengthen the defence when he eventually plays.I'm afraid Yoshida is not premiership quality and today this could be our weak link.We can't expect to hit the ground running today with all the changes,however let's hope we perform well and silence the growing number who have us down as relegation candidates.
Its clear that from RK statement that he has faith in our CB strength.On paper it still looks weak especially if injuries are sustained.Today's game has to be a tough baptism for the new signings to gel.Gardos will strengthen the defence when he eventually plays.I'm afraid Yoshida is not premiership quality and today this could be our weak link.We can't expect to hit the ground running today with all the changes,however let's hope we perform well and silence the growing number who have us down as relegation candidates. peregrine73
  • Score: 12

7:27am Sun 17 Aug 14

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

Excited for the first game of the season. That will never change. Wondering how the new players will fit in, how they will line up, how good they are? Nervous about Yoshida at the back; how will he play? It's my son's 19th birthday today and we usually go out for an evening meal. I asked him what he wanted to do and he said, "Let's go out for lunch, find a pub with Sky and watch the game." Proud of him.
Excited for the first game of the season. That will never change. Wondering how the new players will fit in, how they will line up, how good they are? Nervous about Yoshida at the back; how will he play? It's my son's 19th birthday today and we usually go out for an evening meal. I asked him what he wanted to do and he said, "Let's go out for lunch, find a pub with Sky and watch the game." Proud of him. Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
  • Score: 36

7:47am Sun 17 Aug 14

Blind Faith Believer says...

Today will be tough, but Ronald will have a good tactical plan and despite our nightmare summer we will have another strong season. Watching Match of the Day last night suggested that there are plenty of teams we will beat this season.

Key to today is to avoid conceding in the first 20 minutes. Liverpool seek to blitz teams early on - so we must weather that storm.

However I am most worried about the final 5 minutes - I am not convinced that we are as fit as last year and we must concentrate for 95 minutes today.

Hopefully, Liverpool will underestimate us. All the pressure is on them. Believe me, Ronald is confident that we will pick up something today and he really knows what he is doing.

Show no fear. Believe........

Come on you reds!
Today will be tough, but Ronald will have a good tactical plan and despite our nightmare summer we will have another strong season. Watching Match of the Day last night suggested that there are plenty of teams we will beat this season. Key to today is to avoid conceding in the first 20 minutes. Liverpool seek to blitz teams early on - so we must weather that storm. However I am most worried about the final 5 minutes - I am not convinced that we are as fit as last year and we must concentrate for 95 minutes today. Hopefully, Liverpool will underestimate us. All the pressure is on them. Believe me, Ronald is confident that we will pick up something today and he really knows what he is doing. Show no fear. Believe........ Come on you reds! Blind Faith Believer
  • Score: 20

7:49am Sun 17 Aug 14

lastminmoran says...

UNLIKE liverpool who are still on the look-out (if you read the mirrorpool),a manager worth his salt has to be able to saY.ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! ITS SO FUNNY to watch all the big clubs keep looking over the garden fence...its winning not with any thought simply by stealth!..and that alone should give saints fans confidence. Now i live in the north-west next to your old fashioned 5th column liverpool fan from the 70s...and my city has a lot of these! they reject all the local teams here,and sneer at any failure of said teams,then you have those strange souls who support both local/team and liverpool/man utd! its one of the great myths about northern football fans..they really are the same everywhere..and if you want to laugh check out the out of town liverpool fan filming the penalty shoot-out v northampton a couple of years back!!!!saints and clubs like us should stop thinking all these big clubs are god-like..when you see them up-close they really are nothing special!!!!good luck saints,and sing your hearts out.
UNLIKE liverpool who are still on the look-out (if you read the mirrorpool),a manager worth his salt has to be able to saY.ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! ITS SO FUNNY to watch all the big clubs keep looking over the garden fence...its winning not with any thought simply by stealth!..and that alone should give saints fans confidence. Now i live in the north-west next to your old fashioned 5th column liverpool fan from the 70s...and my city has a lot of these! they reject all the local teams here,and sneer at any failure of said teams,then you have those strange souls who support both local/team and liverpool/man utd! its one of the great myths about northern football fans..they really are the same everywhere..and if you want to laugh check out the out of town liverpool fan filming the penalty shoot-out v northampton a couple of years back!!!!saints and clubs like us should stop thinking all these big clubs are god-like..when you see them up-close they really are nothing special!!!!good luck saints,and sing your hearts out. lastminmoran
  • Score: 28

7:52am Sun 17 Aug 14

milton road says...

In truth Yoshida is usually fine, in our first season it was the Yoshida and Fonte combination at the back when we beat Man City, Liverpool and Chelsea. He has the odd lapse and last season against Villa he had a poor first game of the season where he was not match fit but after that he played really well. Still think we need another CB we got midfield players coming out of our ears.
I would go with Vic and Morgan in midfield along with Dusan and possibly Steve or Saphir Which will still leave Cork Ramirez, WP and Reed on the bench.
In truth Yoshida is usually fine, in our first season it was the Yoshida and Fonte combination at the back when we beat Man City, Liverpool and Chelsea. He has the odd lapse and last season against Villa he had a poor first game of the season where he was not match fit but after that he played really well. Still think we need another CB we got midfield players coming out of our ears. I would go with Vic and Morgan in midfield along with Dusan and possibly Steve or Saphir Which will still leave Cork Ramirez, WP and Reed on the bench. milton road
  • Score: 12

7:58am Sun 17 Aug 14

Chipmonk1 says...

I was hoping for another centre back but then again who am I to question one of the greatest players of all time in that position. Obviously he has seen enough of Stephens to be happy with him as an option. That said also I am not one of Yoshidas detractors. I think the guy can play well and hope he proves the doubters wrong today (tonight here).
I was hoping for another centre back but then again who am I to question one of the greatest players of all time in that position. Obviously he has seen enough of Stephens to be happy with him as an option. That said also I am not one of Yoshidas detractors. I think the guy can play well and hope he proves the doubters wrong today (tonight here). Chipmonk1
  • Score: 20

8:08am Sun 17 Aug 14

lambo83 says...

Think we need another good cb, to improve the team from last year. But now we're here, COYR
Think we need another good cb, to improve the team from last year. But now we're here, COYR lambo83
  • Score: 2

8:08am Sun 17 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

If true this could be a massive gamble. January is a long way off if it doesn't go well.
I see Brenda is spouting off about having no sympathy for Saints without mentioning the real reasons why players have been sold......arrogant c@nt needs a reality check or knocking down a peg or two.

The pressure will be on liverhampton today as nobody really expects us to get anything from the game which may work in our favour.

Swansea were in the same position as us yesterday and look what happened........anyt
hings possible but a draw would do me if we can get it.
COYR FOADP
If true this could be a massive gamble. January is a long way off if it doesn't go well. I see Brenda is spouting off about having no sympathy for Saints without mentioning the real reasons why players have been sold......arrogant c@nt needs a reality check or knocking down a peg or two. The pressure will be on liverhampton today as nobody really expects us to get anything from the game which may work in our favour. Swansea were in the same position as us yesterday and look what happened........anyt hings possible but a draw would do me if we can get it. COYR FOADP J7junctionseven
  • Score: 14

8:10am Sun 17 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

We needed another center half when we still had Lovren, we replace Lovren with Florin and people are saying that's alright?
Don't get it.
If Florin and Fonte keep Liverpool at bay today, then maybe Koeman has called this right. The proof will be in the pudding.
We needed another center half when we still had Lovren, we replace Lovren with Florin and people are saying that's alright? Don't get it. If Florin and Fonte keep Liverpool at bay today, then maybe Koeman has called this right. The proof will be in the pudding. costa gaz
  • Score: -16

8:21am Sun 17 Aug 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Very concerned about this statement from RonKo.

We have sold Lovren, our best CB last season and Chambers who was a potential option.
Yoshida makes to many mistakes and does not dominate at the back; Hoover has proved he is not Premiership quality and can be released; Fonte does OK but we were all agreeing that we needed a better CB last season. Gardos sounds as if he could be like Lovren but is unproven at this level. He is currently injured so by the time he is fit the transfer window will be shut.

Even if Gardos is as good as Lovren then that only brings our central defence back to last seasons level, we need to improve it.
Also to give an option of playing a back three formation.

Therefore what happens when one or two are injured and suspended ? Why risk a situation of being without Fonte &/or Gardos for a number of games and little competition for this important position.

There are good CB's available that would not cost too much and we have the money so sorry Ron but you MUST buy another top CB.

One of the options rumored Wollscheid, van Dijk, Vlaar, Rojo, Astori, or young Terence Kongolo etc would be good.

Good teams are built from the back, so if we only buy one more player that has to be a top CB. Although I believe that a Goalscorer and a fast Winger who can cross for Pelle are also urgently required.

I hope that RonKo will realise this today and not have to wait until January, so think about it Ron and get Les to sign a top CB in the remaining 10 days, even if it is only a loan deal.

Good Luck today Ron, I think you will see that these three positions are still required to make us as good as than last season.

COYR&WS
Very concerned about this statement from RonKo. We have sold Lovren, our best CB last season and Chambers who was a potential option. Yoshida makes to many mistakes and does not dominate at the back; Hoover has proved he is not Premiership quality and can be released; Fonte does OK but we were all agreeing that we needed a better CB last season. Gardos sounds as if he could be like Lovren but is unproven at this level. He is currently injured so by the time he is fit the transfer window will be shut. Even if Gardos is as good as Lovren then that only brings our central defence back to last seasons level, we need to improve it. Also to give an option of playing a back three formation. Therefore what happens when one or two are injured and suspended ? Why risk a situation of being without Fonte &/or Gardos for a number of games and little competition for this important position. There are good CB's available that would not cost too much and we have the money so sorry Ron but you MUST buy another top CB. One of the options rumored Wollscheid, van Dijk, Vlaar, Rojo, Astori, or young Terence Kongolo etc would be good. Good teams are built from the back, so if we only buy one more player that has to be a top CB. Although I believe that a Goalscorer and a fast Winger who can cross for Pelle are also urgently required. I hope that RonKo will realise this today and not have to wait until January, so think about it Ron and get Les to sign a top CB in the remaining 10 days, even if it is only a loan deal. Good Luck today Ron, I think you will see that these three positions are still required to make us as good as than last season. COYR&WS NC Fan4Life
  • Score: -12

8:22am Sun 17 Aug 14

peregrine73 says...

costa gaz wrote:
We needed another center half when we still had Lovren, we replace Lovren with Florin and people are saying that's alright?
Don't get it.
If Florin and Fonte keep Liverpool at bay today, then maybe Koeman has called this right. The proof will be in the pudding.
Florin is injured,that's why the concerns are the Fonte/Yoshida partnership standing!
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: We needed another center half when we still had Lovren, we replace Lovren with Florin and people are saying that's alright? Don't get it. If Florin and Fonte keep Liverpool at bay today, then maybe Koeman has called this right. The proof will be in the pudding.[/p][/quote]Florin is injured,that's why the concerns are the Fonte/Yoshida partnership standing! peregrine73
  • Score: 14

8:22am Sun 17 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

Just read that we will start with only three of the players who won there last season..........
Just read that we will start with only three of the players who won there last season.......... costa gaz
  • Score: -10

8:22am Sun 17 Aug 14

saintbobby says...

Well, RK's comments are good enough for me as I believe he knows a lot more about the team than I, or any of us, actually do. He is with them all week and obviously has briefed them as to their jobs.

Today we start in a confident mood after Saturday's start. Who would have said Swansea would get 3 points and didn't Arsenal struggle against Palace? The new creation that is Spuds just sneaked it I the 93rd minute - did you cry at this as much as I did?

So, roll on kick-off so we can have a good look at our new Saints - fingers crossed, maybe, but the3 points really will be a huge tonic for everyone!

Funny how this fixture came out of the bag all things considered and on top of that we don't even get to wear the stripes. COYR&WS!!!!
Well, RK's comments are good enough for me as I believe he knows a lot more about the team than I, or any of us, actually do. He is with them all week and obviously has briefed them as to their jobs. Today we start in a confident mood after Saturday's start. Who would have said Swansea would get 3 points and didn't Arsenal struggle against Palace? The new creation that is Spuds just sneaked it I the 93rd minute - did you cry at this as much as I did? So, roll on kick-off so we can have a good look at our new Saints - fingers crossed, maybe, but the3 points really will be a huge tonic for everyone! Funny how this fixture came out of the bag all things considered and on top of that we don't even get to wear the stripes. COYR&WS!!!! saintbobby
  • Score: 11

8:27am Sun 17 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Graham, North of Watford wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
I will be up very early to watch the game live, hoping we an play well, but not happy with the lack of transfer spending.
I'll be up nice and early as well but as Watford is at least within spitting distance of a Sky Receivr Ill be watching from Home sadly.

Looked for an oppotunity to comment on Ronzo. If you look at what he says on the Official site he does certainly put up a cracking good case for the Team and what it can achieve.

I've been accused of being naieve (and I accept the charge) in the past and, OF COURSE, Managers can only speak well of their team. I'm just saying that I like the way he speaks - on several broadcasts and I do feel good when I hear him.

Ronzo might just turn out to be one of our best signing this Season / Year / Millenium

Overall, quietly confident and relaxed about the new Season

COYR
Pretty much feel the same way, do you think today may of come a bit early?
[quote][p][bold]Graham, North of Watford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: I will be up very early to watch the game live, hoping we an play well, but not happy with the lack of transfer spending.[/p][/quote]I'll be up nice and early as well but as Watford is at least within spitting distance of a Sky Receivr Ill be watching from Home sadly. Looked for an oppotunity to comment on Ronzo. If you look at what he says on the Official site he does certainly put up a cracking good case for the Team and what it can achieve. I've been accused of being naieve (and I accept the charge) in the past and, OF COURSE, Managers can only speak well of their team. I'm just saying that I like the way he speaks - on several broadcasts and I do feel good when I hear him. Ronzo might just turn out to be one of our best signing this Season / Year / Millenium Overall, quietly confident and relaxed about the new Season COYR[/p][/quote]Pretty much feel the same way, do you think today may of come a bit early? fascia123
  • Score: 4

8:28am Sun 17 Aug 14

george chivers says...

peregrine73 wrote:
Its clear that from RK statement that he has faith in our CB strength.On paper it still looks weak especially if injuries are sustained.Today's game has to be a tough baptism for the new signings to gel.Gardos will strengthen the defence when he eventually plays.I'm afraid Yoshida is not premiership quality and today this could be our weak link.We can't expect to hit the ground running today with all the changes,however let's hope we perform well and silence the growing number who have us down as relegation candidates.
Concur with you about Yoshida. Lacks a bit of pace and is not good on the turn. I still think we need another CB. But I certainly don't think we are relegation candidates. 10th to12th perhaps, higher if we buy reinforcements in January. Today will be tough, a draw would be a great result. I worry about the pace of Sturridge and Sterling.

COYR gives us a nice surprise!
[quote][p][bold]peregrine73[/bold] wrote: Its clear that from RK statement that he has faith in our CB strength.On paper it still looks weak especially if injuries are sustained.Today's game has to be a tough baptism for the new signings to gel.Gardos will strengthen the defence when he eventually plays.I'm afraid Yoshida is not premiership quality and today this could be our weak link.We can't expect to hit the ground running today with all the changes,however let's hope we perform well and silence the growing number who have us down as relegation candidates.[/p][/quote]Concur with you about Yoshida. Lacks a bit of pace and is not good on the turn. I still think we need another CB. But I certainly don't think we are relegation candidates. 10th to12th perhaps, higher if we buy reinforcements in January. Today will be tough, a draw would be a great result. I worry about the pace of Sturridge and Sterling. COYR gives us a nice surprise! george chivers
  • Score: 7

8:30am Sun 17 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

I think he will get a better idea of whether he needs another CB after today! COYS!
I think he will get a better idea of whether he needs another CB after today! COYS! Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 12

8:34am Sun 17 Aug 14

keven says...

Blind Faith Believer wrote:
Today will be tough, but Ronald will have a good tactical plan and despite our nightmare summer we will have another strong season. Watching Match of the Day last night suggested that there are plenty of teams we will beat this season.

Key to today is to avoid conceding in the first 20 minutes. Liverpool seek to blitz teams early on - so we must weather that storm.

However I am most worried about the final 5 minutes - I am not convinced that we are as fit as last year and we must concentrate for 95 minutes today.

Hopefully, Liverpool will underestimate us. All the pressure is on them. Believe me, Ronald is confident that we will pick up something today and he really knows what he is doing.

Show no fear. Believe........

Come on you reds!
lets just hope for no serious head injuries which adds 15 minutes to the game then or we will let in a few after the 95th minute and lose 4-3
[quote][p][bold]Blind Faith Believer[/bold] wrote: Today will be tough, but Ronald will have a good tactical plan and despite our nightmare summer we will have another strong season. Watching Match of the Day last night suggested that there are plenty of teams we will beat this season. Key to today is to avoid conceding in the first 20 minutes. Liverpool seek to blitz teams early on - so we must weather that storm. However I am most worried about the final 5 minutes - I am not convinced that we are as fit as last year and we must concentrate for 95 minutes today. Hopefully, Liverpool will underestimate us. All the pressure is on them. Believe me, Ronald is confident that we will pick up something today and he really knows what he is doing. Show no fear. Believe........ Come on you reds![/p][/quote]lets just hope for no serious head injuries which adds 15 minutes to the game then or we will let in a few after the 95th minute and lose 4-3 keven
  • Score: 6

8:35am Sun 17 Aug 14

Saintsayer II says...

With no Florin to-day I assume he will play Yoshida and Fonte Clyne and Bertram at FB or will it be Targett
Any 2 from Cork Wanyamma or Spiderman with ???????????
Pelle and Long up front
It is surprising how many options we have considering the summers disruption
With no Florin to-day I assume he will play Yoshida and Fonte Clyne and Bertram at FB or will it be Targett Any 2 from Cork Wanyamma or Spiderman with ??????????? Pelle and Long up front It is surprising how many options we have considering the summers disruption Saintsayer II
  • Score: 3

8:35am Sun 17 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Reference CB do you think he may sign someone like Rojo (I know we won't get Rojo now) who can play in several positions, Micah Richards is another?
Reference CB do you think he may sign someone like Rojo (I know we won't get Rojo now) who can play in several positions, Micah Richards is another? fascia123
  • Score: 7

8:36am Sun 17 Aug 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

costa gaz wrote:
Just read that we will start with only three of the players who won there last season..........
Who gives a fcuk Gary.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Just read that we will start with only three of the players who won there last season..........[/p][/quote]Who gives a fcuk Gary. SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: 8

8:36am Sun 17 Aug 14

Simmo13 says...

Suggest you all have a look at that horrible cretin of a man Brendan Rodgers saying he has no sympathy for Southampton they chose to sell their players but he forgets to mention his illegal way of getting them with his wonder boy Gerrard tapping them up for him on England duty !!
They may well beat us today but I sincerely hope they win nothing this season what a vile man and club they are !!!
Suggest you all have a look at that horrible cretin of a man Brendan Rodgers saying he has no sympathy for Southampton they chose to sell their players but he forgets to mention his illegal way of getting them with his wonder boy Gerrard tapping them up for him on England duty !! They may well beat us today but I sincerely hope they win nothing this season what a vile man and club they are !!! Simmo13
  • Score: 36

8:38am Sun 17 Aug 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

I'm really looking forward to today!!!

Cannot wait to see our new signings make us proud!!

A nice 2 nil win will see us top :-)

COME ON YOU SAINTS!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm really looking forward to today!!! Cannot wait to see our new signings make us proud!! A nice 2 nil win will see us top :-) COME ON YOU SAINTS!!!!!!!!!!! SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: 12

8:41am Sun 17 Aug 14

jezza says...

Maybe he is just saying we don't need a centre-back to deflect attention away from his comments about Vlaar. We don't need that type of negativity being heaped on us at the moment - just being quoted inflated prices because of our well publicised bank balance is bad enough.

I still think we'll see another one (and a winger) in before the window shuts.

COYR
Maybe he is just saying we don't need a centre-back to deflect attention away from his comments about Vlaar. We don't need that type of negativity being heaped on us at the moment - just being quoted inflated prices because of our well publicised bank balance is bad enough. I still think we'll see another one (and a winger) in before the window shuts. COYR jezza
  • Score: 8

8:43am Sun 17 Aug 14

SFCOLDBOY says...

Well after the most torturous of pre-seasons I have ever experienced, today has arrived.
I take Saints to win 3-1.
Not usually this positive, but why not!
Lets look at all the possible outcomes.
1) We win---- (Could be top )
2) We draw--- (mid table and OK )
3) We lose- (As good as Man U and 3 points from the top).
COYS.
Well after the most torturous of pre-seasons I have ever experienced, today has arrived. I take Saints to win 3-1. Not usually this positive, but why not! Lets look at all the possible outcomes. 1) We win---- (Could be top ) 2) We draw--- (mid table and OK ) 3) We lose- (As good as Man U and 3 points from the top). COYS. SFCOLDBOY
  • Score: 4

8:45am Sun 17 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

fascia123 wrote:
Reference CB do you think he may sign someone like Rojo (I know we won't get Rojo now) who can play in several positions, Micah Richards is another?
Good shout.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: Reference CB do you think he may sign someone like Rojo (I know we won't get Rojo now) who can play in several positions, Micah Richards is another?[/p][/quote]Good shout. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 6

8:46am Sun 17 Aug 14

NC Fan4Life says...

I have just seen that several other Premiership clubs are chasing Phillip Wollscheid who wants to come to the Premiership. He is only 25, a German international and did well against Pelle last week. To me he is a better prospect than Gardos but both should improve us.

I think you will regret not buying him or one of the other CB targets.
The lack of competition and cover until January is too much of a Gamble Ron so please tell Les to get a CB this week.

A Winger & Goalscorer would bring us back to last seasons level.

Come on Saints would really be pleased with a draw today.
I have just seen that several other Premiership clubs are chasing Phillip Wollscheid who wants to come to the Premiership. He is only 25, a German international and did well against Pelle last week. To me he is a better prospect than Gardos but both should improve us. I think you will regret not buying him or one of the other CB targets. The lack of competition and cover until January is too much of a Gamble Ron so please tell Les to get a CB this week. A Winger & Goalscorer would bring us back to last seasons level. Come on Saints would really be pleased with a draw today. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 9

8:49am Sun 17 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Reference CB do you think he may sign someone like Rojo (I know we won't get Rojo now) who can play in several positions, Micah Richards is another?
Good shout.
Good surname
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: Reference CB do you think he may sign someone like Rojo (I know we won't get Rojo now) who can play in several positions, Micah Richards is another?[/p][/quote]Good shout.[/p][/quote]Good surname fascia123
  • Score: 2

9:00am Sun 17 Aug 14

Southampton boy says...

First game fast approaching now, my heart says a sin my brain is hoping for a draw.

Hoping not a lost I feel we can do it it all depends on weather the team plays as a team and they have gelled.

Love it to be 3 1 to saints with Ricky getting there's Lovren putting one in his own net!

COYRs
First game fast approaching now, my heart says a sin my brain is hoping for a draw. Hoping not a lost I feel we can do it it all depends on weather the team plays as a team and they have gelled. Love it to be 3 1 to saints with Ricky getting there's Lovren putting one in his own net! COYRs Southampton boy
  • Score: -3

9:00am Sun 17 Aug 14

Clever Dick says...

milton road wrote:
In truth Yoshida is usually fine, in our first season it was the Yoshida and Fonte combination at the back when we beat Man City, Liverpool and Chelsea. He has the odd lapse and last season against Villa he had a poor first game of the season where he was not match fit but after that he played really well. Still think we need another CB we got midfield players coming out of our ears.
I would go with Vic and Morgan in midfield along with Dusan and possibly Steve or Saphir Which will still leave Cork Ramirez, WP and Reed on the bench.
Agree. Yoshida has had a few poor games, who hasn't. He did perfectly ok the season before last and he lost his place due to Jose forming a decent pairing with that Judas Croatian we had for a while. And when he got a game it was after a long absence from the side, the Villa game being a case in point. He's better than Hoover and is still young for a centre half. With the new signing we do have 4 CBs and that should be enough. We just need to hope he is an adequate replacement. On paper we have a good side to put out today. The midfield options are as strong as last year, back four solid enough and the only doubts are about our new firepower up front. So come on Pelle and Long stick it right up wannabe big time manager Brenda's ar$e and let's hear him whinge and whine afterwards. Any kind of result today would be good to be honest, even a narrow defeat and a good performance. Especially considering we have the biggest Saints hater ever holding the whistle . Another biassed performace from him today and we should bombard the FA web site with complaints. His record speaks for itself.
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: In truth Yoshida is usually fine, in our first season it was the Yoshida and Fonte combination at the back when we beat Man City, Liverpool and Chelsea. He has the odd lapse and last season against Villa he had a poor first game of the season where he was not match fit but after that he played really well. Still think we need another CB we got midfield players coming out of our ears. I would go with Vic and Morgan in midfield along with Dusan and possibly Steve or Saphir Which will still leave Cork Ramirez, WP and Reed on the bench.[/p][/quote]Agree. Yoshida has had a few poor games, who hasn't. He did perfectly ok the season before last and he lost his place due to Jose forming a decent pairing with that Judas Croatian we had for a while. And when he got a game it was after a long absence from the side, the Villa game being a case in point. He's better than Hoover and is still young for a centre half. With the new signing we do have 4 CBs and that should be enough. We just need to hope he is an adequate replacement. On paper we have a good side to put out today. The midfield options are as strong as last year, back four solid enough and the only doubts are about our new firepower up front. So come on Pelle and Long stick it right up wannabe big time manager Brenda's ar$e and let's hear him whinge and whine afterwards. Any kind of result today would be good to be honest, even a narrow defeat and a good performance. Especially considering we have the biggest Saints hater ever holding the whistle . Another biassed performace from him today and we should bombard the FA web site with complaints. His record speaks for itself. Clever Dick
  • Score: 4

9:00am Sun 17 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
I have just seen that several other Premiership clubs are chasing Phillip Wollscheid who wants to come to the Premiership. He is only 25, a German international and did well against Pelle last week. To me he is a better prospect than Gardos but both should improve us.

I think you will regret not buying him or one of the other CB targets.
The lack of competition and cover until January is too much of a Gamble Ron so please tell Les to get a CB this week.

A Winger & Goalscorer would bring us back to last seasons level.

Come on Saints would really be pleased with a draw today.
Are you saying the winger covers Jrod being out?

Who left in attack that hasn't been replaced?
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: I have just seen that several other Premiership clubs are chasing Phillip Wollscheid who wants to come to the Premiership. He is only 25, a German international and did well against Pelle last week. To me he is a better prospect than Gardos but both should improve us. I think you will regret not buying him or one of the other CB targets. The lack of competition and cover until January is too much of a Gamble Ron so please tell Les to get a CB this week. A Winger & Goalscorer would bring us back to last seasons level. Come on Saints would really be pleased with a draw today.[/p][/quote]Are you saying the winger covers Jrod being out? Who left in attack that hasn't been replaced? fascia123
  • Score: -1

9:01am Sun 17 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Reference CB do you think he may sign someone like Rojo (I know we won't get Rojo now) who can play in several positions, Micah Richards is another?
Good shout.
Good surname
Do you remember Frankie Bennett at the Saints?
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: Reference CB do you think he may sign someone like Rojo (I know we won't get Rojo now) who can play in several positions, Micah Richards is another?[/p][/quote]Good shout.[/p][/quote]Good surname[/p][/quote]Do you remember Frankie Bennett at the Saints? Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 0

9:02am Sun 17 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Southampton boy wrote:
First game fast approaching now, my heart says a sin my brain is hoping for a draw.

Hoping not a lost I feel we can do it it all depends on weather the team plays as a team and they have gelled.

Love it to be 3 1 to saints with Ricky getting there's Lovren putting one in his own net!

COYRs
Thumbs up
[quote][p][bold]Southampton boy[/bold] wrote: First game fast approaching now, my heart says a sin my brain is hoping for a draw. Hoping not a lost I feel we can do it it all depends on weather the team plays as a team and they have gelled. Love it to be 3 1 to saints with Ricky getting there's Lovren putting one in his own net! COYRs[/p][/quote]Thumbs up fascia123
  • Score: 4

9:04am Sun 17 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Reference CB do you think he may sign someone like Rojo (I know we won't get Rojo now) who can play in several positions, Micah Richards is another?
Good shout.
Good surname
Do you remember Frankie Bennett at the Saints?
No, I thought that must be your surname.

I am sure I had a namesake as a centre half for saints years ago did we not have a Paul bennett?
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: Reference CB do you think he may sign someone like Rojo (I know we won't get Rojo now) who can play in several positions, Micah Richards is another?[/p][/quote]Good shout.[/p][/quote]Good surname[/p][/quote]Do you remember Frankie Bennett at the Saints?[/p][/quote]No, I thought that must be your surname. I am sure I had a namesake as a centre half for saints years ago did we not have a Paul bennett? fascia123
  • Score: 0

9:06am Sun 17 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

saintbobby wrote:
Well, RK's comments are good enough for me as I believe he knows a lot more about the team than I, or any of us, actually do. He is with them all week and obviously has briefed them as to their jobs.

Today we start in a confident mood after Saturday's start. Who would have said Swansea would get 3 points and didn't Arsenal struggle against Palace? The new creation that is Spuds just sneaked it I the 93rd minute - did you cry at this as much as I did?

So, roll on kick-off so we can have a good look at our new Saints - fingers crossed, maybe, but the3 points really will be a huge tonic for everyone!

Funny how this fixture came out of the bag all things considered and on top of that we don't even get to wear the stripes. COYR&WS!!!!
While i have total confidence in Ron, I disagree with your comment. Even if we assume Ron is a genius, he's not got a better knowledge of our central defence than people who have watched maya and hoover for two seasons and he's yet to see the standard of our league rivals (not just the likes of liverpool) compared to the dutch league. That said, if gardos is good, our first choice looks ok. I'd prefer one more tho, and was expecting a good one.
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: Well, RK's comments are good enough for me as I believe he knows a lot more about the team than I, or any of us, actually do. He is with them all week and obviously has briefed them as to their jobs. Today we start in a confident mood after Saturday's start. Who would have said Swansea would get 3 points and didn't Arsenal struggle against Palace? The new creation that is Spuds just sneaked it I the 93rd minute - did you cry at this as much as I did? So, roll on kick-off so we can have a good look at our new Saints - fingers crossed, maybe, but the3 points really will be a huge tonic for everyone! Funny how this fixture came out of the bag all things considered and on top of that we don't even get to wear the stripes. COYR&WS!!!![/p][/quote]While i have total confidence in Ron, I disagree with your comment. Even if we assume Ron is a genius, he's not got a better knowledge of our central defence than people who have watched maya and hoover for two seasons and he's yet to see the standard of our league rivals (not just the likes of liverpool) compared to the dutch league. That said, if gardos is good, our first choice looks ok. I'd prefer one more tho, and was expecting a good one. SaintJD
  • Score: 4

9:07am Sun 17 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Reference CB do you think he may sign someone like Rojo (I know we won't get Rojo now) who can play in several positions, Micah Richards is another?
Good shout.
Good surname
Do you remember Frankie Bennett at the Saints?
No, I thought that must be your surname.

I am sure I had a namesake as a centre half for saints years ago did we not have a Paul bennett?
He was an ex-waiter who we signed from non-league - bit of a forgotten man but was dynamite for a while - scored a cracker off the bar against Chelsea in a home win at the Dell! I thought he was a legend at the time!
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: Reference CB do you think he may sign someone like Rojo (I know we won't get Rojo now) who can play in several positions, Micah Richards is another?[/p][/quote]Good shout.[/p][/quote]Good surname[/p][/quote]Do you remember Frankie Bennett at the Saints?[/p][/quote]No, I thought that must be your surname. I am sure I had a namesake as a centre half for saints years ago did we not have a Paul bennett?[/p][/quote]He was an ex-waiter who we signed from non-league - bit of a forgotten man but was dynamite for a while - scored a cracker off the bar against Chelsea in a home win at the Dell! I thought he was a legend at the time! Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 1

9:10am Sun 17 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Now you mention it I think he played in our neck of the woods for one of the Bristol clubs.
Now you mention it I think he played in our neck of the woods for one of the Bristol clubs. fascia123
  • Score: 3

9:19am Sun 17 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

fascia123 wrote:
Now you mention it I think he played in our neck of the woods for one of the Bristol clubs.
That's the fella - he only scored the one in three seasons I think - clearly I have low expectations, so this afternoon should be fine for me whatever happens! :o)
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: Now you mention it I think he played in our neck of the woods for one of the Bristol clubs.[/p][/quote]That's the fella - he only scored the one in three seasons I think - clearly I have low expectations, so this afternoon should be fine for me whatever happens! :o) Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 1

9:21am Sun 17 Aug 14

Thankyounicola says...

We definitely definitely definitely need a another CB. We do. Please we do.
Say if fonte is injured today then CBs next Saturday would be maya and Hooiveld. That does not inspire confidence.
Even with Dejan in the team last year we were trying to sign another CB.

I hope you change your mind ronald. If you don't then you will January when you see us leaking goals. but honestly don't leave it until then.
We definitely definitely definitely need a another CB. We do. Please we do. Say if fonte is injured today then CBs next Saturday would be maya and Hooiveld. That does not inspire confidence. Even with Dejan in the team last year we were trying to sign another CB. I hope you change your mind ronald. If you don't then you will January when you see us leaking goals. but honestly don't leave it until then. Thankyounicola
  • Score: 4

9:21am Sun 17 Aug 14

NC Fan4Life says...

fascia123 wrote:
NC Fan4Life wrote:
I have just seen that several other Premiership clubs are chasing Phillip Wollscheid who wants to come to the Premiership. He is only 25, a German international and did well against Pelle last week. To me he is a better prospect than Gardos but both should improve us.

I think you will regret not buying him or one of the other CB targets.
The lack of competition and cover until January is too much of a Gamble Ron so please tell Les to get a CB this week.

A Winger & Goalscorer would bring us back to last seasons level.

Come on Saints would really be pleased with a draw today.
Are you saying the winger covers Jrod being out?

Who left in attack that hasn't been replaced?
Fascia, I was hoping that with all the money received for the players we have sold, for whatever reason, that it would give RonKo a chance of building a BETTER first 11 and a BIGGER squad to improve on last season.

We will have to wait and see how well all the new players will perform, but it would be naive to think that they will all prove they are able to step up to this league, usually many do not.

I really hope that J-Rod returns as good as before his injury, but many players not recover to the same level. By the time he gets match fit and hopefully back to his high standard, it will be January at least and half the season will have gone. Therefore Yes Fascia, I am thinking of the team without J-Rod, then if/when he does get back it is a bonus.

We would have done even better last season if we had converted more chances and got a higher goal difference, so Yes Facia, I do believe we need a more prolific Goalscorer.

Add these two to an extra CB and we would be better than last season.

COYR&WS we all want a result today.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: I have just seen that several other Premiership clubs are chasing Phillip Wollscheid who wants to come to the Premiership. He is only 25, a German international and did well against Pelle last week. To me he is a better prospect than Gardos but both should improve us. I think you will regret not buying him or one of the other CB targets. The lack of competition and cover until January is too much of a Gamble Ron so please tell Les to get a CB this week. A Winger & Goalscorer would bring us back to last seasons level. Come on Saints would really be pleased with a draw today.[/p][/quote]Are you saying the winger covers Jrod being out? Who left in attack that hasn't been replaced?[/p][/quote]Fascia, I was hoping that with all the money received for the players we have sold, for whatever reason, that it would give RonKo a chance of building a BETTER first 11 and a BIGGER squad to improve on last season. We will have to wait and see how well all the new players will perform, but it would be naive to think that they will all prove they are able to step up to this league, usually many do not. I really hope that J-Rod returns as good as before his injury, but many players not recover to the same level. By the time he gets match fit and hopefully back to his high standard, it will be January at least and half the season will have gone. Therefore Yes Fascia, I am thinking of the team without J-Rod, then if/when he does get back it is a bonus. We would have done even better last season if we had converted more chances and got a higher goal difference, so Yes Facia, I do believe we need a more prolific Goalscorer. Add these two to an extra CB and we would be better than last season. COYR&WS we all want a result today. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 0

9:22am Sun 17 Aug 14

DisplacedFan says...

Graham, North of Watford wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
I will be up very early to watch the game live, hoping we an play well, but not happy with the lack of transfer spending.
I'll be up nice and early as well but as Watford is at least within spitting distance of a Sky Receivr Ill be watching from Home sadly.

Looked for an oppotunity to comment on Ronzo. If you look at what he says on the Official site he does certainly put up a cracking good case for the Team and what it can achieve.

I've been accused of being naieve (and I accept the charge) in the past and, OF COURSE, Managers can only speak well of their team. I'm just saying that I like the way he speaks - on several broadcasts and I do feel good when I hear him.

Ronzo might just turn out to be one of our best signing this Season / Year / Millenium

Overall, quietly confident and relaxed about the new Season

COYR
I agree. I think he will be a great asset to our club, but he is only as good as what he has to work with. Unless Les Reed is the greatest talent spotter in the world, I am concerned that we are not as strong as last year and we have lots of unspent money and it makes me wonder why?
[quote][p][bold]Graham, North of Watford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: I will be up very early to watch the game live, hoping we an play well, but not happy with the lack of transfer spending.[/p][/quote]I'll be up nice and early as well but as Watford is at least within spitting distance of a Sky Receivr Ill be watching from Home sadly. Looked for an oppotunity to comment on Ronzo. If you look at what he says on the Official site he does certainly put up a cracking good case for the Team and what it can achieve. I've been accused of being naieve (and I accept the charge) in the past and, OF COURSE, Managers can only speak well of their team. I'm just saying that I like the way he speaks - on several broadcasts and I do feel good when I hear him. Ronzo might just turn out to be one of our best signing this Season / Year / Millenium Overall, quietly confident and relaxed about the new Season COYR[/p][/quote]I agree. I think he will be a great asset to our club, but he is only as good as what he has to work with. Unless Les Reed is the greatest talent spotter in the world, I am concerned that we are not as strong as last year and we have lots of unspent money and it makes me wonder why? DisplacedFan
  • Score: -1

9:29am Sun 17 Aug 14

jls217 says...

DisplacedFan wrote:
I will be up very early to watch the game live, hoping we an play well, but not happy with the lack of transfer spending.
Are you for real? Would you mind repeating that statement on here as I'm sure there will be other posters scratching their heads trying to work out if you are actually saying here what we think we're reading.
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: I will be up very early to watch the game live, hoping we an play well, but not happy with the lack of transfer spending.[/p][/quote]Are you for real? Would you mind repeating that statement on here as I'm sure there will be other posters scratching their heads trying to work out if you are actually saying here what we think we're reading. jls217
  • Score: 2

9:29am Sun 17 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

Lets be honest peeps, whatever happens this afternoon we cant put out a worse looking side on paper than Van Gaal did yesterday!!
Lets be honest peeps, whatever happens this afternoon we cant put out a worse looking side on paper than Van Gaal did yesterday!! Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 5

9:31am Sun 17 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

Seems the happy clappers are out in force today and any sort of criticism constructive or otherwise is not welcome.
It does lead to an unfair representation of fans views, however it's the first game of the new season enjoy your tubthumping, back slapping moment.

Heart says we could win, head says we will lose. sorry for being a realist.
Seems the happy clappers are out in force today and any sort of criticism constructive or otherwise is not welcome. It does lead to an unfair representation of fans views, however it's the first game of the new season enjoy your tubthumping, back slapping moment. Heart says we could win, head says we will lose. sorry for being a realist. costa gaz
  • Score: -2

9:31am Sun 17 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Now you mention it I think he played in our neck of the woods for one of the Bristol clubs.
That's the fella - he only scored the one in three seasons I think - clearly I have low expectations, so this afternoon should be fine for me whatever happens! :o)
I think today has come 3/4 games early so I won't judge saints on how today goes, don't get me wrong I would love a draw or a win but think it will be a tall order.

DOnt like to say a certain player is not good enough so I will say I still think even with a good squad shaping up we need a CB and a quick winger like Pahars or who was the Portuguese guy who played on the wing when Strachan was manager?
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: Now you mention it I think he played in our neck of the woods for one of the Bristol clubs.[/p][/quote]That's the fella - he only scored the one in three seasons I think - clearly I have low expectations, so this afternoon should be fine for me whatever happens! :o)[/p][/quote]I think today has come 3/4 games early so I won't judge saints on how today goes, don't get me wrong I would love a draw or a win but think it will be a tall order. DOnt like to say a certain player is not good enough so I will say I still think even with a good squad shaping up we need a CB and a quick winger like Pahars or who was the Portuguese guy who played on the wing when Strachan was manager? fascia123
  • Score: 2

9:32am Sun 17 Aug 14

NC Fan4Life says...

SaintJD wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
Well, RK's comments are good enough for me as I believe he knows a lot more about the team than I, or any of us, actually do. He is with them all week and obviously has briefed them as to their jobs.

Today we start in a confident mood after Saturday's start. Who would have said Swansea would get 3 points and didn't Arsenal struggle against Palace? The new creation that is Spuds just sneaked it I the 93rd minute - did you cry at this as much as I did?

So, roll on kick-off so we can have a good look at our new Saints - fingers crossed, maybe, but the3 points really will be a huge tonic for everyone!

Funny how this fixture came out of the bag all things considered and on top of that we don't even get to wear the stripes. COYR&WS!!!!
While i have total confidence in Ron, I disagree with your comment. Even if we assume Ron is a genius, he's not got a better knowledge of our central defence than people who have watched maya and hoover for two seasons and he's yet to see the standard of our league rivals (not just the likes of liverpool) compared to the dutch league. That said, if gardos is good, our first choice looks ok. I'd prefer one more tho, and was expecting a good one.
SaintJD you could not have put the situation better.

We have seen how Hoover & Yoshida have played and the stats also show that both need to be replaced. We knew that last season and bought Lovren. Now we have sold him we hope that Gardos will be as good, but he is injured and the transfer window will be shut by the time he is fit so we do still need a better CB to improve the central defence.

COYR&WS
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: Well, RK's comments are good enough for me as I believe he knows a lot more about the team than I, or any of us, actually do. He is with them all week and obviously has briefed them as to their jobs. Today we start in a confident mood after Saturday's start. Who would have said Swansea would get 3 points and didn't Arsenal struggle against Palace? The new creation that is Spuds just sneaked it I the 93rd minute - did you cry at this as much as I did? So, roll on kick-off so we can have a good look at our new Saints - fingers crossed, maybe, but the3 points really will be a huge tonic for everyone! Funny how this fixture came out of the bag all things considered and on top of that we don't even get to wear the stripes. COYR&WS!!!![/p][/quote]While i have total confidence in Ron, I disagree with your comment. Even if we assume Ron is a genius, he's not got a better knowledge of our central defence than people who have watched maya and hoover for two seasons and he's yet to see the standard of our league rivals (not just the likes of liverpool) compared to the dutch league. That said, if gardos is good, our first choice looks ok. I'd prefer one more tho, and was expecting a good one.[/p][/quote]SaintJD you could not have put the situation better. We have seen how Hoover & Yoshida have played and the stats also show that both need to be replaced. We knew that last season and bought Lovren. Now we have sold him we hope that Gardos will be as good, but he is injured and the transfer window will be shut by the time he is fit so we do still need a better CB to improve the central defence. COYR&WS NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 1

9:36am Sun 17 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Chipmonk1 wrote:
I was hoping for another centre back but then again who am I to question one of the greatest players of all time in that position. Obviously he has seen enough of Stephens to be happy with him as an option. That said also I am not one of Yoshidas detractors. I think the guy can play well and hope he proves the doubters wrong today (tonight here).
I'm with you on this one. I just hope Rambo (due to his lack of experience in the PL) is not underestimating the quality of the other sides in the PL. Maybe he sees something in Stephens which has has not been available to us. I think Yoshida is proficient at this level without being outstanding. I have grave concerns with Hoover though.
I hope Rambo and our defensive line allay my fears completely today but I would still be happier with one more top notch CB (can't stop asking the question if Cork could be retrained in that position though - he seems to have all the attributes and as shown he is more than capable of covering RB if required to)

Time will tell.
[quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: I was hoping for another centre back but then again who am I to question one of the greatest players of all time in that position. Obviously he has seen enough of Stephens to be happy with him as an option. That said also I am not one of Yoshidas detractors. I think the guy can play well and hope he proves the doubters wrong today (tonight here).[/p][/quote]I'm with you on this one. I just hope Rambo (due to his lack of experience in the PL) is not underestimating the quality of the other sides in the PL. Maybe he sees something in Stephens which has has not been available to us. I think Yoshida is proficient at this level without being outstanding. I have grave concerns with Hoover though. I hope Rambo and our defensive line allay my fears completely today but I would still be happier with one more top notch CB (can't stop asking the question if Cork could be retrained in that position though - he seems to have all the attributes and as shown he is more than capable of covering RB if required to) Time will tell. jls217
  • Score: 1

9:39am Sun 17 Aug 14

jls217 says...

milton road wrote:
In truth Yoshida is usually fine, in our first season it was the Yoshida and Fonte combination at the back when we beat Man City, Liverpool and Chelsea. He has the odd lapse and last season against Villa he had a poor first game of the season where he was not match fit but after that he played really well. Still think we need another CB we got midfield players coming out of our ears.
I would go with Vic and Morgan in midfield along with Dusan and possibly Steve or Saphir Which will still leave Cork Ramirez, WP and Reed on the bench.
I agree. Yoshida is not the disaster area some here think he is. Show me a CB who doesn't make mistakes if he's pressured enough. Could Cork cover as a CB - I reckon he has it in him?
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: In truth Yoshida is usually fine, in our first season it was the Yoshida and Fonte combination at the back when we beat Man City, Liverpool and Chelsea. He has the odd lapse and last season against Villa he had a poor first game of the season where he was not match fit but after that he played really well. Still think we need another CB we got midfield players coming out of our ears. I would go with Vic and Morgan in midfield along with Dusan and possibly Steve or Saphir Which will still leave Cork Ramirez, WP and Reed on the bench.[/p][/quote]I agree. Yoshida is not the disaster area some here think he is. Show me a CB who doesn't make mistakes if he's pressured enough. Could Cork cover as a CB - I reckon he has it in him? jls217
  • Score: 1

9:39am Sun 17 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
NC Fan4Life wrote:
I have just seen that several other Premiership clubs are chasing Phillip Wollscheid who wants to come to the Premiership. He is only 25, a German international and did well against Pelle last week. To me he is a better prospect than Gardos but both should improve us.

I think you will regret not buying him or one of the other CB targets.
The lack of competition and cover until January is too much of a Gamble Ron so please tell Les to get a CB this week.

A Winger & Goalscorer would bring us back to last seasons level.

Come on Saints would really be pleased with a draw today.
Are you saying the winger covers Jrod being out?

Who left in attack that hasn't been replaced?
Fascia, I was hoping that with all the money received for the players we have sold, for whatever reason, that it would give RonKo a chance of building a BETTER first 11 and a BIGGER squad to improve on last season.

We will have to wait and see how well all the new players will perform, but it would be naive to think that they will all prove they are able to step up to this league, usually many do not.

I really hope that J-Rod returns as good as before his injury, but many players not recover to the same level. By the time he gets match fit and hopefully back to his high standard, it will be January at least and half the season will have gone. Therefore Yes Fascia, I am thinking of the team without J-Rod, then if/when he does get back it is a bonus.

We would have done even better last season if we had converted more chances and got a higher goal difference, so Yes Facia, I do believe we need a more prolific Goalscorer.

Add these two to an extra CB and we would be better than last season.

COYR&WS we all want a result today.
Defo another centre back or a player who can play across the back like Rojo or Micah Richards.

Not saying you are wrong about Striker but I am hopeful that Pelle can reproduce his form was it 50 goals in 59 games, I do think we could do with a quick winger I liked Pahars when he was here.

What do you think today's result will be?
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: I have just seen that several other Premiership clubs are chasing Phillip Wollscheid who wants to come to the Premiership. He is only 25, a German international and did well against Pelle last week. To me he is a better prospect than Gardos but both should improve us. I think you will regret not buying him or one of the other CB targets. The lack of competition and cover until January is too much of a Gamble Ron so please tell Les to get a CB this week. A Winger & Goalscorer would bring us back to last seasons level. Come on Saints would really be pleased with a draw today.[/p][/quote]Are you saying the winger covers Jrod being out? Who left in attack that hasn't been replaced?[/p][/quote]Fascia, I was hoping that with all the money received for the players we have sold, for whatever reason, that it would give RonKo a chance of building a BETTER first 11 and a BIGGER squad to improve on last season. We will have to wait and see how well all the new players will perform, but it would be naive to think that they will all prove they are able to step up to this league, usually many do not. I really hope that J-Rod returns as good as before his injury, but many players not recover to the same level. By the time he gets match fit and hopefully back to his high standard, it will be January at least and half the season will have gone. Therefore Yes Fascia, I am thinking of the team without J-Rod, then if/when he does get back it is a bonus. We would have done even better last season if we had converted more chances and got a higher goal difference, so Yes Facia, I do believe we need a more prolific Goalscorer. Add these two to an extra CB and we would be better than last season. COYR&WS we all want a result today.[/p][/quote]Defo another centre back or a player who can play across the back like Rojo or Micah Richards. Not saying you are wrong about Striker but I am hopeful that Pelle can reproduce his form was it 50 goals in 59 games, I do think we could do with a quick winger I liked Pahars when he was here. What do you think today's result will be? fascia123
  • Score: 1

9:43am Sun 17 Aug 14

milton road says...

Well its a big ask today but whatever happens lets not gt on anyones back, if i remember rightly Lovren did not exactly perform well against Liverpool at home last season however well he did away.
I am hoping Wanyama and Schneiderlin play, Morgan will will give the CB's cover by closing the midfield in front and Wanyama will break their game up when they get the ball. a player greatly missed after our fine start last season and was one of the reasons why Liverpool got through the middle so well when they played us at our place. taider looks a strong and powerful midfielder and I do not think he will intimidated at Anfield, I htink it will between him and davis for Midfield and then Tadic.
Well its a big ask today but whatever happens lets not gt on anyones back, if i remember rightly Lovren did not exactly perform well against Liverpool at home last season however well he did away. I am hoping Wanyama and Schneiderlin play, Morgan will will give the CB's cover by closing the midfield in front and Wanyama will break their game up when they get the ball. a player greatly missed after our fine start last season and was one of the reasons why Liverpool got through the middle so well when they played us at our place. taider looks a strong and powerful midfielder and I do not think he will intimidated at Anfield, I htink it will between him and davis for Midfield and then Tadic. milton road
  • Score: 1

9:44am Sun 17 Aug 14

Thankyounicola says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
Well, RK's comments are good enough for me as I believe he knows a lot more about the team than I, or any of us, actually do. He is with them all week and obviously has briefed them as to their jobs.

Today we start in a confident mood after Saturday's start. Who would have said Swansea would get 3 points and didn't Arsenal struggle against Palace? The new creation that is Spuds just sneaked it I the 93rd minute - did you cry at this as much as I did?

So, roll on kick-off so we can have a good look at our new Saints - fingers crossed, maybe, but the3 points really will be a huge tonic for everyone!

Funny how this fixture came out of the bag all things considered and on top of that we don't even get to wear the stripes. COYR&WS!!!!
While i have total confidence in Ron, I disagree with your comment. Even if we assume Ron is a genius, he's not got a better knowledge of our central defence than people who have watched maya and hoover for two seasons and he's yet to see the standard of our league rivals (not just the likes of liverpool) compared to the dutch league. That said, if gardos is good, our first choice looks ok. I'd prefer one more tho, and was expecting a good one.
SaintJD you could not have put the situation better.

We have seen how Hoover & Yoshida have played and the stats also show that both need to be replaced. We knew that last season and bought Lovren. Now we have sold him we hope that Gardos will be as good, but he is injured and the transfer window will be shut by the time he is fit so we do still need a better CB to improve the central defence.

COYR&WS
I couldn't agree with you more. We need a good CB with PL experience. Our whole season will based on success or failure at the back and front.
Back is definitely weak. Saw Vlaar and senderos absolutely win the match for Villa yesterday against an attacking stoke team at home. Was inspiring I must admit. That's what we need.

I think Ronald needs to change his mind and change quickly.
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: Well, RK's comments are good enough for me as I believe he knows a lot more about the team than I, or any of us, actually do. He is with them all week and obviously has briefed them as to their jobs. Today we start in a confident mood after Saturday's start. Who would have said Swansea would get 3 points and didn't Arsenal struggle against Palace? The new creation that is Spuds just sneaked it I the 93rd minute - did you cry at this as much as I did? So, roll on kick-off so we can have a good look at our new Saints - fingers crossed, maybe, but the3 points really will be a huge tonic for everyone! Funny how this fixture came out of the bag all things considered and on top of that we don't even get to wear the stripes. COYR&WS!!!![/p][/quote]While i have total confidence in Ron, I disagree with your comment. Even if we assume Ron is a genius, he's not got a better knowledge of our central defence than people who have watched maya and hoover for two seasons and he's yet to see the standard of our league rivals (not just the likes of liverpool) compared to the dutch league. That said, if gardos is good, our first choice looks ok. I'd prefer one more tho, and was expecting a good one.[/p][/quote]SaintJD you could not have put the situation better. We have seen how Hoover & Yoshida have played and the stats also show that both need to be replaced. We knew that last season and bought Lovren. Now we have sold him we hope that Gardos will be as good, but he is injured and the transfer window will be shut by the time he is fit so we do still need a better CB to improve the central defence. COYR&WS[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree with you more. We need a good CB with PL experience. Our whole season will based on success or failure at the back and front. Back is definitely weak. Saw Vlaar and senderos absolutely win the match for Villa yesterday against an attacking stoke team at home. Was inspiring I must admit. That's what we need. I think Ronald needs to change his mind and change quickly. Thankyounicola
  • Score: 2

9:44am Sun 17 Aug 14

jls217 says...

costa gaz wrote:
Seems the happy clappers are out in force today and any sort of criticism constructive or otherwise is not welcome.
It does lead to an unfair representation of fans views, however it's the first game of the new season enjoy your tubthumping, back slapping moment.

Heart says we could win, head says we will lose. sorry for being a realist.
On paper I have to agree with you Gaz but football ain't played on paper as someone famously said.

I'm a realist and would celebrate an away draw. Let's face it Skiverpool with their wealth of talent is going to frighten the bejazuz out of many a PL team this year but still won't be in the top four.

Going forward I reckon we can match them when on the back foot I reckon they have our measure - but look at what happened to Manure yesterday and there is plenty of room for more upsets along the way and this could just be one of them
Win, lose or draw I'm down the pub to watch this and will have a fantastic afternoon ahead of me.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Seems the happy clappers are out in force today and any sort of criticism constructive or otherwise is not welcome. It does lead to an unfair representation of fans views, however it's the first game of the new season enjoy your tubthumping, back slapping moment. Heart says we could win, head says we will lose. sorry for being a realist.[/p][/quote]On paper I have to agree with you Gaz but football ain't played on paper as someone famously said. I'm a realist and would celebrate an away draw. Let's face it Skiverpool with their wealth of talent is going to frighten the bejazuz out of many a PL team this year but still won't be in the top four. Going forward I reckon we can match them when on the back foot I reckon they have our measure - but look at what happened to Manure yesterday and there is plenty of room for more upsets along the way and this could just be one of them Win, lose or draw I'm down the pub to watch this and will have a fantastic afternoon ahead of me. jls217
  • Score: 1

9:44am Sun 17 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
Lets be honest peeps, whatever happens this afternoon we cant put out a worse looking side on paper than Van Gaal did yesterday!!
My two sons are Utd fans and they got a lot of stick yesterday, I hope they don't get their own back later.
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Lets be honest peeps, whatever happens this afternoon we cant put out a worse looking side on paper than Van Gaal did yesterday!![/p][/quote]My two sons are Utd fans and they got a lot of stick yesterday, I hope they don't get their own back later. fascia123
  • Score: 3

9:49am Sun 17 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Now you mention it I think he played in our neck of the woods for one of the Bristol clubs.
That's the fella - he only scored the one in three seasons I think - clearly I have low expectations, so this afternoon should be fine for me whatever happens! :o)
I think today has come 3/4 games early so I won't judge saints on how today goes, don't get me wrong I would love a draw or a win but think it will be a tall order.

DOnt like to say a certain player is not good enough so I will say I still think even with a good squad shaping up we need a CB and a quick winger like Pahars or who was the Portuguese guy who played on the wing when Strachan was manager?
Fabrice Fernandes?

Agree with all points. Zaha would be a quality signing I think and would solve the wing problem.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: Now you mention it I think he played in our neck of the woods for one of the Bristol clubs.[/p][/quote]That's the fella - he only scored the one in three seasons I think - clearly I have low expectations, so this afternoon should be fine for me whatever happens! :o)[/p][/quote]I think today has come 3/4 games early so I won't judge saints on how today goes, don't get me wrong I would love a draw or a win but think it will be a tall order. DOnt like to say a certain player is not good enough so I will say I still think even with a good squad shaping up we need a CB and a quick winger like Pahars or who was the Portuguese guy who played on the wing when Strachan was manager?[/p][/quote]Fabrice Fernandes? Agree with all points. Zaha would be a quality signing I think and would solve the wing problem. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 0

9:58am Sun 17 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Now you mention it I think he played in our neck of the woods for one of the Bristol clubs.
That's the fella - he only scored the one in three seasons I think - clearly I have low expectations, so this afternoon should be fine for me whatever happens! :o)
I think today has come 3/4 games early so I won't judge saints on how today goes, don't get me wrong I would love a draw or a win but think it will be a tall order.

DOnt like to say a certain player is not good enough so I will say I still think even with a good squad shaping up we need a CB and a quick winger like Pahars or who was the Portuguese guy who played on the wing when Strachan was manager?
Fabrice Fernandes?

Agree with all points. Zaha would be a quality signing I think and would solve the wing problem.
Yes and from what my sons are saying he will be one of the utd players to move on, he works hard for the team as well, got a few rough edges but yes I wouldn't mind him in the stripes, that's another plus maybe it because I am old but the team looked strong and fit in the new kit last Saturday.
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: Now you mention it I think he played in our neck of the woods for one of the Bristol clubs.[/p][/quote]That's the fella - he only scored the one in three seasons I think - clearly I have low expectations, so this afternoon should be fine for me whatever happens! :o)[/p][/quote]I think today has come 3/4 games early so I won't judge saints on how today goes, don't get me wrong I would love a draw or a win but think it will be a tall order. DOnt like to say a certain player is not good enough so I will say I still think even with a good squad shaping up we need a CB and a quick winger like Pahars or who was the Portuguese guy who played on the wing when Strachan was manager?[/p][/quote]Fabrice Fernandes? Agree with all points. Zaha would be a quality signing I think and would solve the wing problem.[/p][/quote]Yes and from what my sons are saying he will be one of the utd players to move on, he works hard for the team as well, got a few rough edges but yes I wouldn't mind him in the stripes, that's another plus maybe it because I am old but the team looked strong and fit in the new kit last Saturday. fascia123
  • Score: 1

9:59am Sun 17 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Is Rambo just playing a little game here. He has been slammed by Lambert for his connection with Vlaar. Is he really not looking or putting off the opposition as every time we've been linked with a defender some other club has stepped in with an offer. There are some good CB's looking to move on at the moment - are they better than our Romanian giant (don't know) Wollscheid has a good reputation and Rambo had the chance to have a perusal against us. What happened to the much heralded raid on Feyenoord for one or two of their defenders - did he even talk it over with them? I'm hoping there's a bit of kidology going on here - time will tell.
Is Rambo just playing a little game here. He has been slammed by Lambert for his connection with Vlaar. Is he really not looking or putting off the opposition as every time we've been linked with a defender some other club has stepped in with an offer. There are some good CB's looking to move on at the moment - are they better than our Romanian giant (don't know) Wollscheid has a good reputation and Rambo had the chance to have a perusal against us. What happened to the much heralded raid on Feyenoord for one or two of their defenders - did he even talk it over with them? I'm hoping there's a bit of kidology going on here - time will tell. jls217
  • Score: 1

10:01am Sun 17 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Now you mention it I think he played in our neck of the woods for one of the Bristol clubs.
That's the fella - he only scored the one in three seasons I think - clearly I have low expectations, so this afternoon should be fine for me whatever happens! :o)
I think today has come 3/4 games early so I won't judge saints on how today goes, don't get me wrong I would love a draw or a win but think it will be a tall order.

DOnt like to say a certain player is not good enough so I will say I still think even with a good squad shaping up we need a CB and a quick winger like Pahars or who was the Portuguese guy who played on the wing when Strachan was manager?
Fabrice Fernandes?

Agree with all points. Zaha would be a quality signing I think and would solve the wing problem.
Yes and from what my sons are saying he will be one of the utd players to move on, he works hard for the team as well, got a few rough edges but yes I wouldn't mind him in the stripes, that's another plus maybe it because I am old but the team looked strong and fit in the new kit last Saturday.
According to the papers he is being made to train away from the Utd squad with the likes of Nani etc so he's up for grabs and he bullied Fonte last season when he came on for Fonte at SMS. I think Stoke made a good loan signing in Victor Moses and I think we've missed out on a good signing there.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: Now you mention it I think he played in our neck of the woods for one of the Bristol clubs.[/p][/quote]That's the fella - he only scored the one in three seasons I think - clearly I have low expectations, so this afternoon should be fine for me whatever happens! :o)[/p][/quote]I think today has come 3/4 games early so I won't judge saints on how today goes, don't get me wrong I would love a draw or a win but think it will be a tall order. DOnt like to say a certain player is not good enough so I will say I still think even with a good squad shaping up we need a CB and a quick winger like Pahars or who was the Portuguese guy who played on the wing when Strachan was manager?[/p][/quote]Fabrice Fernandes? Agree with all points. Zaha would be a quality signing I think and would solve the wing problem.[/p][/quote]Yes and from what my sons are saying he will be one of the utd players to move on, he works hard for the team as well, got a few rough edges but yes I wouldn't mind him in the stripes, that's another plus maybe it because I am old but the team looked strong and fit in the new kit last Saturday.[/p][/quote]According to the papers he is being made to train away from the Utd squad with the likes of Nani etc so he's up for grabs and he bullied Fonte last season when he came on for Fonte at SMS. I think Stoke made a good loan signing in Victor Moses and I think we've missed out on a good signing there. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 0

10:05am Sun 17 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

costa gaz wrote:
Seems the happy clappers are out in force today and any sort of criticism constructive or otherwise is not welcome.
It does lead to an unfair representation of fans views, however it's the first game of the new season enjoy your tubthumping, back slapping moment.

Heart says we could win, head says we will lose. sorry for being a realist.
No this is the way the forum always was, you just don't like it because you thought your view were popular, they weren't. As people told you many times sammynobrains and his alter egos were makin it look like there were a lot more neggies than there actually are, yet you fell for his Wumming!

I do wonder why a saints fan who comes on this site every day doesn't know that Gardos is out for 2-3 weeks with a hamstring injury?

Why should we be bothered about how many of the team started last year? We have sold some and replaced them and replaced others with better, thats football.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Seems the happy clappers are out in force today and any sort of criticism constructive or otherwise is not welcome. It does lead to an unfair representation of fans views, however it's the first game of the new season enjoy your tubthumping, back slapping moment. Heart says we could win, head says we will lose. sorry for being a realist.[/p][/quote]No this is the way the forum always was, you just don't like it because you thought your view were popular, they weren't. As people told you many times sammynobrains and his alter egos were makin it look like there were a lot more neggies than there actually are, yet you fell for his Wumming! I do wonder why a saints fan who comes on this site every day doesn't know that Gardos is out for 2-3 weeks with a hamstring injury? Why should we be bothered about how many of the team started last year? We have sold some and replaced them and replaced others with better, thats football. de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 0

10:07am Sun 17 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Nani now that's a player we DONT want.

Yes he is very strong and has an eye for a goal so would cover a few options up front and out wide, ferguson was no fool he must of seen something in him.

Although didn't he also buy Massimo Taibi, can't get them all right I suppose.
Nani now that's a player we DONT want. Yes he is very strong and has an eye for a goal so would cover a few options up front and out wide, ferguson was no fool he must of seen something in him. Although didn't he also buy Massimo Taibi, can't get them all right I suppose. fascia123
  • Score: 1

10:10am Sun 17 Aug 14

Chipmonk1 says...

jls217 wrote:
Chipmonk1 wrote:
I was hoping for another centre back but then again who am I to question one of the greatest players of all time in that position. Obviously he has seen enough of Stephens to be happy with him as an option. That said also I am not one of Yoshidas detractors. I think the guy can play well and hope he proves the doubters wrong today (tonight here).
I'm with you on this one. I just hope Rambo (due to his lack of experience in the PL) is not underestimating the quality of the other sides in the PL. Maybe he sees something in Stephens which has has not been available to us. I think Yoshida is proficient at this level without being outstanding. I have grave concerns with Hoover though.
I hope Rambo and our defensive line allay my fears completely today but I would still be happier with one more top notch CB (can't stop asking the question if Cork could be retrained in that position though - he seems to have all the attributes and as shown he is more than capable of covering RB if required to)

Time will tell.
I just hope that with another year under his belt Stephens is ready to make the step up and trust (or maybe hope) RoKo sees that. Stones at Everton is only a young'un. Jos makes me nervous when I see his name on the teamsheet so as you say maybe RoKo sees Corky as an option and if he delivers then a new contract offered. That said one should be offered anyway as versatility is priceless.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: I was hoping for another centre back but then again who am I to question one of the greatest players of all time in that position. Obviously he has seen enough of Stephens to be happy with him as an option. That said also I am not one of Yoshidas detractors. I think the guy can play well and hope he proves the doubters wrong today (tonight here).[/p][/quote]I'm with you on this one. I just hope Rambo (due to his lack of experience in the PL) is not underestimating the quality of the other sides in the PL. Maybe he sees something in Stephens which has has not been available to us. I think Yoshida is proficient at this level without being outstanding. I have grave concerns with Hoover though. I hope Rambo and our defensive line allay my fears completely today but I would still be happier with one more top notch CB (can't stop asking the question if Cork could be retrained in that position though - he seems to have all the attributes and as shown he is more than capable of covering RB if required to) Time will tell.[/p][/quote]I just hope that with another year under his belt Stephens is ready to make the step up and trust (or maybe hope) RoKo sees that. Stones at Everton is only a young'un. Jos makes me nervous when I see his name on the teamsheet so as you say maybe RoKo sees Corky as an option and if he delivers then a new contract offered. That said one should be offered anyway as versatility is priceless. Chipmonk1
  • Score: 2

10:10am Sun 17 Aug 14

milton road says...

Someone above said that they have been told only 3 of the players who played at Anfield last season will be returning. If my memory serves correct, Fonte, Clyne, Schneiderlin, Wanyama and Davis all pl;ayed last season at Anfield and could do so again today. No one will know until Koeman announces his team.
Someone above said that they have been told only 3 of the players who played at Anfield last season will be returning. If my memory serves correct, Fonte, Clyne, Schneiderlin, Wanyama and Davis all pl;ayed last season at Anfield and could do so again today. No one will know until Koeman announces his team. milton road
  • Score: 4

10:14am Sun 17 Aug 14

damoose says...

This statement has more to do with the progress of Jack Stephens,Swindon waited weeks for a loan and were told no,hopefully hes ahead of Jos for back-up role
This statement has more to do with the progress of Jack Stephens,Swindon waited weeks for a loan and were told no,hopefully hes ahead of Jos for back-up role damoose
  • Score: 1

10:14am Sun 17 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Seems the happy clappers are out in force today and any sort of criticism constructive or otherwise is not welcome.
It does lead to an unfair representation of fans views, however it's the first game of the new season enjoy your tubthumping, back slapping moment.

Heart says we could win, head says we will lose. sorry for being a realist.
No this is the way the forum always was, you just don't like it because you thought your view were popular, they weren't. As people told you many times sammynobrains and his alter egos were makin it look like there were a lot more neggies than there actually are, yet you fell for his Wumming!

I do wonder why a saints fan who comes on this site every day doesn't know that Gardos is out for 2-3 weeks with a hamstring injury?

Why should we be bothered about how many of the team started last year? We have sold some and replaced them and replaced others with better, thats football.
Why do people have such a problem with positivity, to be honest the most ludicrous biased opinions I have heard of come from football supporters, listen to Paddy Crearand on MUTV, that's supporting your club and at times defending them when really you know you are talking rubbish.

Football is the place we go to escape this is dampened by someone continually trashing the club, the board, the decisions, the players, I just don't understand.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Seems the happy clappers are out in force today and any sort of criticism constructive or otherwise is not welcome. It does lead to an unfair representation of fans views, however it's the first game of the new season enjoy your tubthumping, back slapping moment. Heart says we could win, head says we will lose. sorry for being a realist.[/p][/quote]No this is the way the forum always was, you just don't like it because you thought your view were popular, they weren't. As people told you many times sammynobrains and his alter egos were makin it look like there were a lot more neggies than there actually are, yet you fell for his Wumming! I do wonder why a saints fan who comes on this site every day doesn't know that Gardos is out for 2-3 weeks with a hamstring injury? Why should we be bothered about how many of the team started last year? We have sold some and replaced them and replaced others with better, thats football.[/p][/quote]Why do people have such a problem with positivity, to be honest the most ludicrous biased opinions I have heard of come from football supporters, listen to Paddy Crearand on MUTV, that's supporting your club and at times defending them when really you know you are talking rubbish. Football is the place we go to escape this is dampened by someone continually trashing the club, the board, the decisions, the players, I just don't understand. fascia123
  • Score: 3

10:16am Sun 17 Aug 14

Confucious says...

Some well thought out analysis on here this morning and no doubt Ronald will have prepared meticulously for this afternoon.

Nonetheless, I hope all our fans have ensured they are prepared to put in place all the necessary lucky items rituals. I always consider these things as part of my own pre-season preparation as it's easy to leave everything to the last minute and then forget something which, after all, hasn't been needed for three months.

Sugar went into my lucky Earl Grey tea before the milk today; I have my lucky pants on and I'm already wearing my lucky white left sock and lucky red right sock and my lucky grey trousers. I will start shaving at 10.43 exactly and have my car parked well away from the unlucky spot next to the unlucky dahlia pot. My Buddha's tummy will be stroked well before kick off and I'll have my lucky old AA battery in my shirt pocket together with my lucky old reading glasses.

What will annoy me if things go wrong is that someone else somewhere in Saints colours will have forgotten something.

At least, I hope you lot will have done your duty.
Some well thought out analysis on here this morning and no doubt Ronald will have prepared meticulously for this afternoon. Nonetheless, I hope all our fans have ensured they are prepared to put in place all the necessary lucky items rituals. I always consider these things as part of my own pre-season preparation as it's easy to leave everything to the last minute and then forget something which, after all, hasn't been needed for three months. Sugar went into my lucky Earl Grey tea before the milk today; I have my lucky pants on and I'm already wearing my lucky white left sock and lucky red right sock and my lucky grey trousers. I will start shaving at 10.43 exactly and have my car parked well away from the unlucky spot next to the unlucky dahlia pot. My Buddha's tummy will be stroked well before kick off and I'll have my lucky old AA battery in my shirt pocket together with my lucky old reading glasses. What will annoy me if things go wrong is that someone else somewhere in Saints colours will have forgotten something. At least, I hope you lot will have done your duty. Confucious
  • Score: 7

10:20am Sun 17 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Confucious wrote:
Some well thought out analysis on here this morning and no doubt Ronald will have prepared meticulously for this afternoon.

Nonetheless, I hope all our fans have ensured they are prepared to put in place all the necessary lucky items rituals. I always consider these things as part of my own pre-season preparation as it's easy to leave everything to the last minute and then forget something which, after all, hasn't been needed for three months.

Sugar went into my lucky Earl Grey tea before the milk today; I have my lucky pants on and I'm already wearing my lucky white left sock and lucky red right sock and my lucky grey trousers. I will start shaving at 10.43 exactly and have my car parked well away from the unlucky spot next to the unlucky dahlia pot. My Buddha's tummy will be stroked well before kick off and I'll have my lucky old AA battery in my shirt pocket together with my lucky old reading glasses.

What will annoy me if things go wrong is that someone else somewhere in Saints colours will have forgotten something.

At least, I hope you lot will have done your duty.
Brilliant, now that's a true fan.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Some well thought out analysis on here this morning and no doubt Ronald will have prepared meticulously for this afternoon. Nonetheless, I hope all our fans have ensured they are prepared to put in place all the necessary lucky items rituals. I always consider these things as part of my own pre-season preparation as it's easy to leave everything to the last minute and then forget something which, after all, hasn't been needed for three months. Sugar went into my lucky Earl Grey tea before the milk today; I have my lucky pants on and I'm already wearing my lucky white left sock and lucky red right sock and my lucky grey trousers. I will start shaving at 10.43 exactly and have my car parked well away from the unlucky spot next to the unlucky dahlia pot. My Buddha's tummy will be stroked well before kick off and I'll have my lucky old AA battery in my shirt pocket together with my lucky old reading glasses. What will annoy me if things go wrong is that someone else somewhere in Saints colours will have forgotten something. At least, I hope you lot will have done your duty.[/p][/quote]Brilliant, now that's a true fan. fascia123
  • Score: 3

10:22am Sun 17 Aug 14

one in the crowd says...

You've only got to MONDAY SEPTEMBER !st to fill the holes in your team.

As I have said before Saints are very reluctant to part with their cash in order to strengthen the team, of course they could always bring in a few LOAN players to reduce the cost, but its getting a little late even for that option .
You've only got to MONDAY SEPTEMBER !st to fill the holes in your team. As I have said before Saints are very reluctant to part with their cash in order to strengthen the team, of course they could always bring in a few LOAN players to reduce the cost, but its getting a little late even for that option . one in the crowd
  • Score: -5

10:23am Sun 17 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

Brendan Rogers saying some very inflammatory things - I really want to ram them down his throat!!!!!!
Brendan Rogers saying some very inflammatory things - I really want to ram them down his throat!!!!!! Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 3

10:24am Sun 17 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

Confucious wrote:
Some well thought out analysis on here this morning and no doubt Ronald will have prepared meticulously for this afternoon.

Nonetheless, I hope all our fans have ensured they are prepared to put in place all the necessary lucky items rituals. I always consider these things as part of my own pre-season preparation as it's easy to leave everything to the last minute and then forget something which, after all, hasn't been needed for three months.

Sugar went into my lucky Earl Grey tea before the milk today; I have my lucky pants on and I'm already wearing my lucky white left sock and lucky red right sock and my lucky grey trousers. I will start shaving at 10.43 exactly and have my car parked well away from the unlucky spot next to the unlucky dahlia pot. My Buddha's tummy will be stroked well before kick off and I'll have my lucky old AA battery in my shirt pocket together with my lucky old reading glasses.

What will annoy me if things go wrong is that someone else somewhere in Saints colours will have forgotten something.

At least, I hope you lot will have done your duty.
Does this me a good excuse to go and see my 'lucky mistress?'
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Some well thought out analysis on here this morning and no doubt Ronald will have prepared meticulously for this afternoon. Nonetheless, I hope all our fans have ensured they are prepared to put in place all the necessary lucky items rituals. I always consider these things as part of my own pre-season preparation as it's easy to leave everything to the last minute and then forget something which, after all, hasn't been needed for three months. Sugar went into my lucky Earl Grey tea before the milk today; I have my lucky pants on and I'm already wearing my lucky white left sock and lucky red right sock and my lucky grey trousers. I will start shaving at 10.43 exactly and have my car parked well away from the unlucky spot next to the unlucky dahlia pot. My Buddha's tummy will be stroked well before kick off and I'll have my lucky old AA battery in my shirt pocket together with my lucky old reading glasses. What will annoy me if things go wrong is that someone else somewhere in Saints colours will have forgotten something. At least, I hope you lot will have done your duty.[/p][/quote]Does this me a good excuse to go and see my 'lucky mistress?' Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 5

10:24am Sun 17 Aug 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

Saints are 8/1 with most bookies today...

That's got to be worth a cheeky tenner !
Saints are 8/1 with most bookies today... That's got to be worth a cheeky tenner ! SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: 3

10:25am Sun 17 Aug 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

one in the crowd wrote:
You've only got to MONDAY SEPTEMBER !st to fill the holes in your team.

As I have said before Saints are very reluctant to part with their cash in order to strengthen the team, of course they could always bring in a few LOAN players to reduce the cost, but its getting a little late even for that option .
Hahahahahahahahaha

BEHAVE!!
[quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: You've only got to MONDAY SEPTEMBER !st to fill the holes in your team. As I have said before Saints are very reluctant to part with their cash in order to strengthen the team, of course they could always bring in a few LOAN players to reduce the cost, but its getting a little late even for that option .[/p][/quote]Hahahahahahahahaha BEHAVE!! SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: 2

10:33am Sun 17 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Seems the happy clappers are out in force today and any sort of criticism constructive or otherwise is not welcome.
It does lead to an unfair representation of fans views, however it's the first game of the new season enjoy your tubthumping, back slapping moment.

Heart says we could win, head says we will lose. sorry for being a realist.
No this is the way the forum always was, you just don't like it because you thought your view were popular, they weren't. As people told you many times sammynobrains and his alter egos were makin it look like there were a lot more neggies than there actually are, yet you fell for his Wumming!

I do wonder why a saints fan who comes on this site every day doesn't know that Gardos is out for 2-3 weeks with a hamstring injury?

Why should we be bothered about how many of the team started last year? We have sold some and replaced them and replaced others with better, thats football.
Oh dear horse.... As someone who loves football I'd say starting with only 3 of last years brilliant team is going to make this seasons fixture a little difficult.
You still go on about the replacements being better??
How do you know this? You have not seen them play a competitive match against premier league opposition ... In your deluded view a £5m center half is better than a £20m center half... why are you not chief scout at Real madrid.
Well done for convincing yourself that the Saints are the best team on the planet, sadly the realists amongst us know this is not really the case.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Seems the happy clappers are out in force today and any sort of criticism constructive or otherwise is not welcome. It does lead to an unfair representation of fans views, however it's the first game of the new season enjoy your tubthumping, back slapping moment. Heart says we could win, head says we will lose. sorry for being a realist.[/p][/quote]No this is the way the forum always was, you just don't like it because you thought your view were popular, they weren't. As people told you many times sammynobrains and his alter egos were makin it look like there were a lot more neggies than there actually are, yet you fell for his Wumming! I do wonder why a saints fan who comes on this site every day doesn't know that Gardos is out for 2-3 weeks with a hamstring injury? Why should we be bothered about how many of the team started last year? We have sold some and replaced them and replaced others with better, thats football.[/p][/quote]Oh dear horse.... As someone who loves football I'd say starting with only 3 of last years brilliant team is going to make this seasons fixture a little difficult. You still go on about the replacements being better?? How do you know this? You have not seen them play a competitive match against premier league opposition ... In your deluded view a £5m center half is better than a £20m center half... why are you not chief scout at Real madrid. Well done for convincing yourself that the Saints are the best team on the planet, sadly the realists amongst us know this is not really the case. costa gaz
  • Score: -2

10:33am Sun 17 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Some well thought out analysis on here this morning and no doubt Ronald will have prepared meticulously for this afternoon.

Nonetheless, I hope all our fans have ensured they are prepared to put in place all the necessary lucky items rituals. I always consider these things as part of my own pre-season preparation as it's easy to leave everything to the last minute and then forget something which, after all, hasn't been needed for three months.

Sugar went into my lucky Earl Grey tea before the milk today; I have my lucky pants on and I'm already wearing my lucky white left sock and lucky red right sock and my lucky grey trousers. I will start shaving at 10.43 exactly and have my car parked well away from the unlucky spot next to the unlucky dahlia pot. My Buddha's tummy will be stroked well before kick off and I'll have my lucky old AA battery in my shirt pocket together with my lucky old reading glasses.

What will annoy me if things go wrong is that someone else somewhere in Saints colours will have forgotten something.

At least, I hope you lot will have done your duty.
Does this me a good excuse to go and see my 'lucky mistress?'
I would check with your wife first you may need a new set of bol@@@ks afterwards.
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Some well thought out analysis on here this morning and no doubt Ronald will have prepared meticulously for this afternoon. Nonetheless, I hope all our fans have ensured they are prepared to put in place all the necessary lucky items rituals. I always consider these things as part of my own pre-season preparation as it's easy to leave everything to the last minute and then forget something which, after all, hasn't been needed for three months. Sugar went into my lucky Earl Grey tea before the milk today; I have my lucky pants on and I'm already wearing my lucky white left sock and lucky red right sock and my lucky grey trousers. I will start shaving at 10.43 exactly and have my car parked well away from the unlucky spot next to the unlucky dahlia pot. My Buddha's tummy will be stroked well before kick off and I'll have my lucky old AA battery in my shirt pocket together with my lucky old reading glasses. What will annoy me if things go wrong is that someone else somewhere in Saints colours will have forgotten something. At least, I hope you lot will have done your duty.[/p][/quote]Does this me a good excuse to go and see my 'lucky mistress?'[/p][/quote]I would check with your wife first you may need a new set of bol@@@ks afterwards. fascia123
  • Score: 3

10:35am Sun 17 Aug 14

Confucious says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Some well thought out analysis on here this morning and no doubt Ronald will have prepared meticulously for this afternoon.

Nonetheless, I hope all our fans have ensured they are prepared to put in place all the necessary lucky items rituals. I always consider these things as part of my own pre-season preparation as it's easy to leave everything to the last minute and then forget something which, after all, hasn't been needed for three months.

Sugar went into my lucky Earl Grey tea before the milk today; I have my lucky pants on and I'm already wearing my lucky white left sock and lucky red right sock and my lucky grey trousers. I will start shaving at 10.43 exactly and have my car parked well away from the unlucky spot next to the unlucky dahlia pot. My Buddha's tummy will be stroked well before kick off and I'll have my lucky old AA battery in my shirt pocket together with my lucky old reading glasses.

What will annoy me if things go wrong is that someone else somewhere in Saints colours will have forgotten something.

At least, I hope you lot will have done your duty.
Does this me a good excuse to go and see my 'lucky mistress?'
I'm not sure, but I think it would be okay provided she keeps her socks on.
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Some well thought out analysis on here this morning and no doubt Ronald will have prepared meticulously for this afternoon. Nonetheless, I hope all our fans have ensured they are prepared to put in place all the necessary lucky items rituals. I always consider these things as part of my own pre-season preparation as it's easy to leave everything to the last minute and then forget something which, after all, hasn't been needed for three months. Sugar went into my lucky Earl Grey tea before the milk today; I have my lucky pants on and I'm already wearing my lucky white left sock and lucky red right sock and my lucky grey trousers. I will start shaving at 10.43 exactly and have my car parked well away from the unlucky spot next to the unlucky dahlia pot. My Buddha's tummy will be stroked well before kick off and I'll have my lucky old AA battery in my shirt pocket together with my lucky old reading glasses. What will annoy me if things go wrong is that someone else somewhere in Saints colours will have forgotten something. At least, I hope you lot will have done your duty.[/p][/quote]Does this me a good excuse to go and see my 'lucky mistress?'[/p][/quote]I'm not sure, but I think it would be okay provided she keeps her socks on. Confucious
  • Score: 1

10:37am Sun 17 Aug 14

one in the crowd says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
Brendan Rogers saying some very inflammatory things - I really want to ram them down his throat!!!!!!
Brendan Rodgers Did not say anything inflammatory, he just stated facts.


It's just business:
Why Rodgers has no sympathy for Southampton plight Reds boss has been on other side of transfer window

So if the Liverpool FC boss received little pity for the agonising manner in which Liverpool fell short of winning the championship last season, he can hardly be expected to lose any sleep over the plight of his Premier League rivals.
It was merely business as Rodgers continually plundered Southampton to replenish his Anfield squad during the summer transfer window.
The Saints’ reward for being the top-flight’s surprise package last season is having their squad torn apart following the departure of manager Mauricio Pochettino to Tottenham Hotspur.
Adam Lallana, Rickie Lambert and, most contentiously, Dejan Lovren all exchanged St Mary’s for Anfield, while Luke Shaw and Calum Chambers have also sought pastures new with Morgan Schneiderlin and Jay Rodriguez slated to follow suit.
The quirk of the fixture list means Lovren and Lambert will come up against their former club when Liverpool bring their Premier League campaign at home this afternoon.
But when asked if he had any sympathy for Southampton’s plight, Rodgers replies: “No, not at all.
“You have the choice as a club. You don’t have to sell.
“Maybe Southampton’s objectives have changed. They were on course, they were looking to be a Champions League club I believe. But they obviously wanted to change.
“We have taken three players but Arsenal have taken a player, Man United have taken one. There might be one or two others.
“That’s football. That’s the way it works.
“We were after a certain type of player that fits the profile and the mould of the way we play.
“They played in a similar mould to us, so the players understand the pressing, the intensity and the possession. So, I don’t have sympathy, no.”
Critics of the Financial Fair Play initiative argue Southampton’s plight is an example of how the ruling simply maintains the status quo and doesn’t allow smaller clubs to grow.
That, though, cuts no ice with Rodgers, who has experienced the other side of football’s imbalance when attempting to fend off potential suitors for his players while at Swansea City.
“Football has never changed,” he says. “It has always been like that.
“Listen, don’t get me wrong, Southampton are a great club. But so was Swansea.
“Swansea have produced a young player in Ben Davies and he’s now gone to Tottenham.
“Players will want to look to compete at the highest possible level they have. That’s the nature of it.
“Luke Shaw has gone to what he thinks is a bigger club. The guys have come here because of the status of Liverpool and Champions League football. It’s hard to deny players that. And that will always be the case.
“Lots of chairmen and executive understand that. When a situation comes along like this, all they can do is maximise what they can get for the talent and look to invest again. As a manager I have been in both situations.
“When I was at Swansea, there were a number of clubs in the Premier League who wanted to take some of our players. I was able to convince some to stay.
“As a manager you know that is going to happen.”
With Alberto Moreno having finally completed his protracted transfer, Rodgers has now brought in eight players during the summer with a striker still on his shopping list given Luis Suarez’s exit.
Comparisons have been made between the manner in which Tottenham Hotspur splashed the cash having lost Gareth Bale last year.
But the Reds boss says: “We’ve brought in a lot of players but it’s not as though we are putting all of them into the team straight away.
“We still have a core. It’s not a new team, it’s an evolving team.
“It’s a totally different scenario (to Tottenham). We are clear on our identity and the way we want to play. We’ve added exciting talent to that.”
While many observers believe Liverpool will do well to replicate last season’s top-four finish, Rodgers claims his side are better equipped to again challenge for the championship.
And the Reds boss insists his focus has purely been on the future rather than dwelling on how close his side came to ending a title drought that stretches back to 1990.
“I’ll be totally honest, I’ve hardly given it a minute’s thought,” says Rodgers. “I never thought about what might have been. Nobody had to pick me up.
“There was no expectancy on us, we weren’t expected to be in the top four and we aren’t even expected to be this season.
“People might say last season was our best chance but I think this season is our best chance as we have more belief, and we are stronger as a squad.
“Our aim is to be in the top four. Once you nail that fourth position, you can look beyond that.”
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Brendan Rogers saying some very inflammatory things - I really want to ram them down his throat!!!!!![/p][/quote]Brendan Rodgers Did not say anything inflammatory, he just stated facts. It's just business: Why Rodgers has no sympathy for Southampton plight Reds boss has been on other side of transfer window So if the Liverpool FC boss received little pity for the agonising manner in which Liverpool fell short of winning the championship last season, he can hardly be expected to lose any sleep over the plight of his Premier League rivals. It was merely business as Rodgers continually plundered Southampton to replenish his Anfield squad during the summer transfer window. The Saints’ reward for being the top-flight’s surprise package last season is having their squad torn apart following the departure of manager Mauricio Pochettino to Tottenham Hotspur. Adam Lallana, Rickie Lambert and, most contentiously, Dejan Lovren all exchanged St Mary’s for Anfield, while Luke Shaw and Calum Chambers have also sought pastures new with Morgan Schneiderlin and Jay Rodriguez slated to follow suit. The quirk of the fixture list means Lovren and Lambert will come up against their former club when Liverpool bring their Premier League campaign at home this afternoon. But when asked if he had any sympathy for Southampton’s plight, Rodgers replies: “No, not at all. “You have the choice as a club. You don’t have to sell. “Maybe Southampton’s objectives have changed. They were on course, they were looking to be a Champions League club I believe. But they obviously wanted to change. “We have taken three players but Arsenal have taken a player, Man United have taken one. There might be one or two others. “That’s football. That’s the way it works. “We were after a certain type of player that fits the profile and the mould of the way we play. “They played in a similar mould to us, so the players understand the pressing, the intensity and the possession. So, I don’t have sympathy, no.” Critics of the Financial Fair Play initiative argue Southampton’s plight is an example of how the ruling simply maintains the status quo and doesn’t allow smaller clubs to grow. That, though, cuts no ice with Rodgers, who has experienced the other side of football’s imbalance when attempting to fend off potential suitors for his players while at Swansea City. “Football has never changed,” he says. “It has always been like that. “Listen, don’t get me wrong, Southampton are a great club. But so was Swansea. “Swansea have produced a young player in Ben Davies and he’s now gone to Tottenham. “Players will want to look to compete at the highest possible level they have. That’s the nature of it. “Luke Shaw has gone to what he thinks is a bigger club. The guys have come here because of the status of Liverpool and Champions League football. It’s hard to deny players that. And that will always be the case. “Lots of chairmen and executive understand that. When a situation comes along like this, all they can do is maximise what they can get for the talent and look to invest again. As a manager I have been in both situations. “When I was at Swansea, there were a number of clubs in the Premier League who wanted to take some of our players. I was able to convince some to stay. “As a manager you know that is going to happen.” With Alberto Moreno having finally completed his protracted transfer, Rodgers has now brought in eight players during the summer with a striker still on his shopping list given Luis Suarez’s exit. Comparisons have been made between the manner in which Tottenham Hotspur splashed the cash having lost Gareth Bale last year. But the Reds boss says: “We’ve brought in a lot of players but it’s not as though we are putting all of them into the team straight away. “We still have a core. It’s not a new team, it’s an evolving team. “It’s a totally different scenario (to Tottenham). We are clear on our identity and the way we want to play. We’ve added exciting talent to that.” While many observers believe Liverpool will do well to replicate last season’s top-four finish, Rodgers claims his side are better equipped to again challenge for the championship. And the Reds boss insists his focus has purely been on the future rather than dwelling on how close his side came to ending a title drought that stretches back to 1990. “I’ll be totally honest, I’ve hardly given it a minute’s thought,” says Rodgers. “I never thought about what might have been. Nobody had to pick me up. “There was no expectancy on us, we weren’t expected to be in the top four and we aren’t even expected to be this season. “People might say last season was our best chance but I think this season is our best chance as we have more belief, and we are stronger as a squad. “Our aim is to be in the top four. Once you nail that fourth position, you can look beyond that.” one in the crowd
  • Score: -4

10:41am Sun 17 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

Confucious wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Some well thought out analysis on here this morning and no doubt Ronald will have prepared meticulously for this afternoon.

Nonetheless, I hope all our fans have ensured they are prepared to put in place all the necessary lucky items rituals. I always consider these things as part of my own pre-season preparation as it's easy to leave everything to the last minute and then forget something which, after all, hasn't been needed for three months.

Sugar went into my lucky Earl Grey tea before the milk today; I have my lucky pants on and I'm already wearing my lucky white left sock and lucky red right sock and my lucky grey trousers. I will start shaving at 10.43 exactly and have my car parked well away from the unlucky spot next to the unlucky dahlia pot. My Buddha's tummy will be stroked well before kick off and I'll have my lucky old AA battery in my shirt pocket together with my lucky old reading glasses.

What will annoy me if things go wrong is that someone else somewhere in Saints colours will have forgotten something.

At least, I hope you lot will have done your duty.
Does this me a good excuse to go and see my 'lucky mistress?'
I'm not sure, but I think it would be okay provided she keeps her socks on.
Great thanks, I'll tell the wife what you said.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Some well thought out analysis on here this morning and no doubt Ronald will have prepared meticulously for this afternoon. Nonetheless, I hope all our fans have ensured they are prepared to put in place all the necessary lucky items rituals. I always consider these things as part of my own pre-season preparation as it's easy to leave everything to the last minute and then forget something which, after all, hasn't been needed for three months. Sugar went into my lucky Earl Grey tea before the milk today; I have my lucky pants on and I'm already wearing my lucky white left sock and lucky red right sock and my lucky grey trousers. I will start shaving at 10.43 exactly and have my car parked well away from the unlucky spot next to the unlucky dahlia pot. My Buddha's tummy will be stroked well before kick off and I'll have my lucky old AA battery in my shirt pocket together with my lucky old reading glasses. What will annoy me if things go wrong is that someone else somewhere in Saints colours will have forgotten something. At least, I hope you lot will have done your duty.[/p][/quote]Does this me a good excuse to go and see my 'lucky mistress?'[/p][/quote]I'm not sure, but I think it would be okay provided she keeps her socks on.[/p][/quote]Great thanks, I'll tell the wife what you said. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 0

10:42am Sun 17 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

costa gaz wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Seems the happy clappers are out in force today and any sort of criticism constructive or otherwise is not welcome.
It does lead to an unfair representation of fans views, however it's the first game of the new season enjoy your tubthumping, back slapping moment.

Heart says we could win, head says we will lose. sorry for being a realist.
No this is the way the forum always was, you just don't like it because you thought your view were popular, they weren't. As people told you many times sammynobrains and his alter egos were makin it look like there were a lot more neggies than there actually are, yet you fell for his Wumming!

I do wonder why a saints fan who comes on this site every day doesn't know that Gardos is out for 2-3 weeks with a hamstring injury?

Why should we be bothered about how many of the team started last year? We have sold some and replaced them and replaced others with better, thats football.
Oh dear horse.... As someone who loves football I'd say starting with only 3 of last years brilliant team is going to make this seasons fixture a little difficult.
You still go on about the replacements being better??
How do you know this? You have not seen them play a competitive match against premier league opposition ... In your deluded view a £5m center half is better than a £20m center half... why are you not chief scout at Real madrid.
Well done for convincing yourself that the Saints are the best team on the planet, sadly the realists amongst us know this is not really the case.
We don't know how many of last years players are going to start.

You don't know if the players are worse than the ones that played last year.

We have seen them play against very good sides in Europe though and they look adequate replacements and the squad looks to shaping up with a couple more additions to be better than last year.

Lovren is so clearly not a £20 million centre half and from reports on the web the new guy was purchased at a good price so your comparison/analogy is crap.

No one has convincer theirselves that saints are the best team at all but we support our club.

I would like it if you were chief scout for Liverpool as with your obvious lack of football knowledge you could mess them right up.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Seems the happy clappers are out in force today and any sort of criticism constructive or otherwise is not welcome. It does lead to an unfair representation of fans views, however it's the first game of the new season enjoy your tubthumping, back slapping moment. Heart says we could win, head says we will lose. sorry for being a realist.[/p][/quote]No this is the way the forum always was, you just don't like it because you thought your view were popular, they weren't. As people told you many times sammynobrains and his alter egos were makin it look like there were a lot more neggies than there actually are, yet you fell for his Wumming! I do wonder why a saints fan who comes on this site every day doesn't know that Gardos is out for 2-3 weeks with a hamstring injury? Why should we be bothered about how many of the team started last year? We have sold some and replaced them and replaced others with better, thats football.[/p][/quote]Oh dear horse.... As someone who loves football I'd say starting with only 3 of last years brilliant team is going to make this seasons fixture a little difficult. You still go on about the replacements being better?? How do you know this? You have not seen them play a competitive match against premier league opposition ... In your deluded view a £5m center half is better than a £20m center half... why are you not chief scout at Real madrid. Well done for convincing yourself that the Saints are the best team on the planet, sadly the realists amongst us know this is not really the case.[/p][/quote]We don't know how many of last years players are going to start. You don't know if the players are worse than the ones that played last year. We have seen them play against very good sides in Europe though and they look adequate replacements and the squad looks to shaping up with a couple more additions to be better than last year. Lovren is so clearly not a £20 million centre half and from reports on the web the new guy was purchased at a good price so your comparison/analogy is crap. No one has convincer theirselves that saints are the best team at all but we support our club. I would like it if you were chief scout for Liverpool as with your obvious lack of football knowledge you could mess them right up. fascia123
  • Score: 1

10:43am Sun 17 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

one in the crowd wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Brendan Rogers saying some very inflammatory things - I really want to ram them down his throat!!!!!!
Brendan Rodgers Did not say anything inflammatory, he just stated facts.


It's just business:
Why Rodgers has no sympathy for Southampton plight Reds boss has been on other side of transfer window

So if the Liverpool FC boss received little pity for the agonising manner in which Liverpool fell short of winning the championship last season, he can hardly be expected to lose any sleep over the plight of his Premier League rivals.
It was merely business as Rodgers continually plundered Southampton to replenish his Anfield squad during the summer transfer window.
The Saints’ reward for being the top-flight’s surprise package last season is having their squad torn apart following the departure of manager Mauricio Pochettino to Tottenham Hotspur.
Adam Lallana, Rickie Lambert and, most contentiously, Dejan Lovren all exchanged St Mary’s for Anfield, while Luke Shaw and Calum Chambers have also sought pastures new with Morgan Schneiderlin and Jay Rodriguez slated to follow suit.
The quirk of the fixture list means Lovren and Lambert will come up against their former club when Liverpool bring their Premier League campaign at home this afternoon.
But when asked if he had any sympathy for Southampton’s plight, Rodgers replies: “No, not at all.
“You have the choice as a club. You don’t have to sell.
“Maybe Southampton’s objectives have changed. They were on course, they were looking to be a Champions League club I believe. But they obviously wanted to change.
“We have taken three players but Arsenal have taken a player, Man United have taken one. There might be one or two others.
“That’s football. That’s the way it works.
“We were after a certain type of player that fits the profile and the mould of the way we play.
“They played in a similar mould to us, so the players understand the pressing, the intensity and the possession. So, I don’t have sympathy, no.”
Critics of the Financial Fair Play initiative argue Southampton’s plight is an example of how the ruling simply maintains the status quo and doesn’t allow smaller clubs to grow.
That, though, cuts no ice with Rodgers, who has experienced the other side of football’s imbalance when attempting to fend off potential suitors for his players while at Swansea City.
“Football has never changed,” he says. “It has always been like that.
“Listen, don’t get me wrong, Southampton are a great club. But so was Swansea.
“Swansea have produced a young player in Ben Davies and he’s now gone to Tottenham.
“Players will want to look to compete at the highest possible level they have. That’s the nature of it.
“Luke Shaw has gone to what he thinks is a bigger club. The guys have come here because of the status of Liverpool and Champions League football. It’s hard to deny players that. And that will always be the case.
“Lots of chairmen and executive understand that. When a situation comes along like this, all they can do is maximise what they can get for the talent and look to invest again. As a manager I have been in both situations.
“When I was at Swansea, there were a number of clubs in the Premier League who wanted to take some of our players. I was able to convince some to stay.
“As a manager you know that is going to happen.”
With Alberto Moreno having finally completed his protracted transfer, Rodgers has now brought in eight players during the summer with a striker still on his shopping list given Luis Suarez’s exit.
Comparisons have been made between the manner in which Tottenham Hotspur splashed the cash having lost Gareth Bale last year.
But the Reds boss says: “We’ve brought in a lot of players but it’s not as though we are putting all of them into the team straight away.
“We still have a core. It’s not a new team, it’s an evolving team.
“It’s a totally different scenario (to Tottenham). We are clear on our identity and the way we want to play. We’ve added exciting talent to that.”
While many observers believe Liverpool will do well to replicate last season’s top-four finish, Rodgers claims his side are better equipped to again challenge for the championship.
And the Reds boss insists his focus has purely been on the future rather than dwelling on how close his side came to ending a title drought that stretches back to 1990.
“I’ll be totally honest, I’ve hardly given it a minute’s thought,” says Rodgers. “I never thought about what might have been. Nobody had to pick me up.
“There was no expectancy on us, we weren’t expected to be in the top four and we aren’t even expected to be this season.
“People might say last season was our best chance but I think this season is our best chance as we have more belief, and we are stronger as a squad.
“Our aim is to be in the top four. Once you nail that fourth position, you can look beyond that.”
Er, thanks, that's great.
[quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Brendan Rogers saying some very inflammatory things - I really want to ram them down his throat!!!!!![/p][/quote]Brendan Rodgers Did not say anything inflammatory, he just stated facts. It's just business: Why Rodgers has no sympathy for Southampton plight Reds boss has been on other side of transfer window So if the Liverpool FC boss received little pity for the agonising manner in which Liverpool fell short of winning the championship last season, he can hardly be expected to lose any sleep over the plight of his Premier League rivals. It was merely business as Rodgers continually plundered Southampton to replenish his Anfield squad during the summer transfer window. The Saints’ reward for being the top-flight’s surprise package last season is having their squad torn apart following the departure of manager Mauricio Pochettino to Tottenham Hotspur. Adam Lallana, Rickie Lambert and, most contentiously, Dejan Lovren all exchanged St Mary’s for Anfield, while Luke Shaw and Calum Chambers have also sought pastures new with Morgan Schneiderlin and Jay Rodriguez slated to follow suit. The quirk of the fixture list means Lovren and Lambert will come up against their former club when Liverpool bring their Premier League campaign at home this afternoon. But when asked if he had any sympathy for Southampton’s plight, Rodgers replies: “No, not at all. “You have the choice as a club. You don’t have to sell. “Maybe Southampton’s objectives have changed. They were on course, they were looking to be a Champions League club I believe. But they obviously wanted to change. “We have taken three players but Arsenal have taken a player, Man United have taken one. There might be one or two others. “That’s football. That’s the way it works. “We were after a certain type of player that fits the profile and the mould of the way we play. “They played in a similar mould to us, so the players understand the pressing, the intensity and the possession. So, I don’t have sympathy, no.” Critics of the Financial Fair Play initiative argue Southampton’s plight is an example of how the ruling simply maintains the status quo and doesn’t allow smaller clubs to grow. That, though, cuts no ice with Rodgers, who has experienced the other side of football’s imbalance when attempting to fend off potential suitors for his players while at Swansea City. “Football has never changed,” he says. “It has always been like that. “Listen, don’t get me wrong, Southampton are a great club. But so was Swansea. “Swansea have produced a young player in Ben Davies and he’s now gone to Tottenham. “Players will want to look to compete at the highest possible level they have. That’s the nature of it. “Luke Shaw has gone to what he thinks is a bigger club. The guys have come here because of the status of Liverpool and Champions League football. It’s hard to deny players that. And that will always be the case. “Lots of chairmen and executive understand that. When a situation comes along like this, all they can do is maximise what they can get for the talent and look to invest again. As a manager I have been in both situations. “When I was at Swansea, there were a number of clubs in the Premier League who wanted to take some of our players. I was able to convince some to stay. “As a manager you know that is going to happen.” With Alberto Moreno having finally completed his protracted transfer, Rodgers has now brought in eight players during the summer with a striker still on his shopping list given Luis Suarez’s exit. Comparisons have been made between the manner in which Tottenham Hotspur splashed the cash having lost Gareth Bale last year. But the Reds boss says: “We’ve brought in a lot of players but it’s not as though we are putting all of them into the team straight away. “We still have a core. It’s not a new team, it’s an evolving team. “It’s a totally different scenario (to Tottenham). We are clear on our identity and the way we want to play. We’ve added exciting talent to that.” While many observers believe Liverpool will do well to replicate last season’s top-four finish, Rodgers claims his side are better equipped to again challenge for the championship. And the Reds boss insists his focus has purely been on the future rather than dwelling on how close his side came to ending a title drought that stretches back to 1990. “I’ll be totally honest, I’ve hardly given it a minute’s thought,” says Rodgers. “I never thought about what might have been. Nobody had to pick me up. “There was no expectancy on us, we weren’t expected to be in the top four and we aren’t even expected to be this season. “People might say last season was our best chance but I think this season is our best chance as we have more belief, and we are stronger as a squad. “Our aim is to be in the top four. Once you nail that fourth position, you can look beyond that.”[/p][/quote]Er, thanks, that's great. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 0

10:45am Sun 17 Aug 14

EastMidsBlue says...

Rather than all the despondency from this summer's departures look forward and not back, good luck for the coming season remember you only have to "better" Man Utd's result to be bottom of the league!
Rather than all the despondency from this summer's departures look forward and not back, good luck for the coming season remember you only have to "better" Man Utd's result to be bottom of the league! EastMidsBlue
  • Score: 1

10:48am Sun 17 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

one in the crowd wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Brendan Rogers saying some very inflammatory things - I really want to ram them down his throat!!!!!!
Brendan Rodgers Did not say anything inflammatory, he just stated facts.


It's just business:
Why Rodgers has no sympathy for Southampton plight Reds boss has been on other side of transfer window

So if the Liverpool FC boss received little pity for the agonising manner in which Liverpool fell short of winning the championship last season, he can hardly be expected to lose any sleep over the plight of his Premier League rivals.
It was merely business as Rodgers continually plundered Southampton to replenish his Anfield squad during the summer transfer window.
The Saints’ reward for being the top-flight’s surprise package last season is having their squad torn apart following the departure of manager Mauricio Pochettino to Tottenham Hotspur.
Adam Lallana, Rickie Lambert and, most contentiously, Dejan Lovren all exchanged St Mary’s for Anfield, while Luke Shaw and Calum Chambers have also sought pastures new with Morgan Schneiderlin and Jay Rodriguez slated to follow suit.
The quirk of the fixture list means Lovren and Lambert will come up against their former club when Liverpool bring their Premier League campaign at home this afternoon.
But when asked if he had any sympathy for Southampton’s plight, Rodgers replies: “No, not at all.
“You have the choice as a club. You don’t have to sell.
“Maybe Southampton’s objectives have changed. They were on course, they were looking to be a Champions League club I believe. But they obviously wanted to change.
“We have taken three players but Arsenal have taken a player, Man United have taken one. There might be one or two others.
“That’s football. That’s the way it works.
“We were after a certain type of player that fits the profile and the mould of the way we play.
“They played in a similar mould to us, so the players understand the pressing, the intensity and the possession. So, I don’t have sympathy, no.”
Critics of the Financial Fair Play initiative argue Southampton’s plight is an example of how the ruling simply maintains the status quo and doesn’t allow smaller clubs to grow.
That, though, cuts no ice with Rodgers, who has experienced the other side of football’s imbalance when attempting to fend off potential suitors for his players while at Swansea City.
“Football has never changed,” he says. “It has always been like that.
“Listen, don’t get me wrong, Southampton are a great club. But so was Swansea.
“Swansea have produced a young player in Ben Davies and he’s now gone to Tottenham.
“Players will want to look to compete at the highest possible level they have. That’s the nature of it.
“Luke Shaw has gone to what he thinks is a bigger club. The guys have come here because of the status of Liverpool and Champions League football. It’s hard to deny players that. And that will always be the case.
“Lots of chairmen and executive understand that. When a situation comes along like this, all they can do is maximise what they can get for the talent and look to invest again. As a manager I have been in both situations.
“When I was at Swansea, there were a number of clubs in the Premier League who wanted to take some of our players. I was able to convince some to stay.
“As a manager you know that is going to happen.”
With Alberto Moreno having finally completed his protracted transfer, Rodgers has now brought in eight players during the summer with a striker still on his shopping list given Luis Suarez’s exit.
Comparisons have been made between the manner in which Tottenham Hotspur splashed the cash having lost Gareth Bale last year.
But the Reds boss says: “We’ve brought in a lot of players but it’s not as though we are putting all of them into the team straight away.
“We still have a core. It’s not a new team, it’s an evolving team.
“It’s a totally different scenario (to Tottenham). We are clear on our identity and the way we want to play. We’ve added exciting talent to that.”
While many observers believe Liverpool will do well to replicate last season’s top-four finish, Rodgers claims his side are better equipped to again challenge for the championship.
And the Reds boss insists his focus has purely been on the future rather than dwelling on how close his side came to ending a title drought that stretches back to 1990.
“I’ll be totally honest, I’ve hardly given it a minute’s thought,” says Rodgers. “I never thought about what might have been. Nobody had to pick me up.
“There was no expectancy on us, we weren’t expected to be in the top four and we aren’t even expected to be this season.
“People might say last season was our best chance but I think this season is our best chance as we have more belief, and we are stronger as a squad.
“Our aim is to be in the top four. Once you nail that fourth position, you can look beyond that.”
Haven't got time to read that this morning thanks Search,but I'll scroll back to it,once I've finished 'War & Peace".
[quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Brendan Rogers saying some very inflammatory things - I really want to ram them down his throat!!!!!![/p][/quote]Brendan Rodgers Did not say anything inflammatory, he just stated facts. It's just business: Why Rodgers has no sympathy for Southampton plight Reds boss has been on other side of transfer window So if the Liverpool FC boss received little pity for the agonising manner in which Liverpool fell short of winning the championship last season, he can hardly be expected to lose any sleep over the plight of his Premier League rivals. It was merely business as Rodgers continually plundered Southampton to replenish his Anfield squad during the summer transfer window. The Saints’ reward for being the top-flight’s surprise package last season is having their squad torn apart following the departure of manager Mauricio Pochettino to Tottenham Hotspur. Adam Lallana, Rickie Lambert and, most contentiously, Dejan Lovren all exchanged St Mary’s for Anfield, while Luke Shaw and Calum Chambers have also sought pastures new with Morgan Schneiderlin and Jay Rodriguez slated to follow suit. The quirk of the fixture list means Lovren and Lambert will come up against their former club when Liverpool bring their Premier League campaign at home this afternoon. But when asked if he had any sympathy for Southampton’s plight, Rodgers replies: “No, not at all. “You have the choice as a club. You don’t have to sell. “Maybe Southampton’s objectives have changed. They were on course, they were looking to be a Champions League club I believe. But they obviously wanted to change. “We have taken three players but Arsenal have taken a player, Man United have taken one. There might be one or two others. “That’s football. That’s the way it works. “We were after a certain type of player that fits the profile and the mould of the way we play. “They played in a similar mould to us, so the players understand the pressing, the intensity and the possession. So, I don’t have sympathy, no.” Critics of the Financial Fair Play initiative argue Southampton’s plight is an example of how the ruling simply maintains the status quo and doesn’t allow smaller clubs to grow. That, though, cuts no ice with Rodgers, who has experienced the other side of football’s imbalance when attempting to fend off potential suitors for his players while at Swansea City. “Football has never changed,” he says. “It has always been like that. “Listen, don’t get me wrong, Southampton are a great club. But so was Swansea. “Swansea have produced a young player in Ben Davies and he’s now gone to Tottenham. “Players will want to look to compete at the highest possible level they have. That’s the nature of it. “Luke Shaw has gone to what he thinks is a bigger club. The guys have come here because of the status of Liverpool and Champions League football. It’s hard to deny players that. And that will always be the case. “Lots of chairmen and executive understand that. When a situation comes along like this, all they can do is maximise what they can get for the talent and look to invest again. As a manager I have been in both situations. “When I was at Swansea, there were a number of clubs in the Premier League who wanted to take some of our players. I was able to convince some to stay. “As a manager you know that is going to happen.” With Alberto Moreno having finally completed his protracted transfer, Rodgers has now brought in eight players during the summer with a striker still on his shopping list given Luis Suarez’s exit. Comparisons have been made between the manner in which Tottenham Hotspur splashed the cash having lost Gareth Bale last year. But the Reds boss says: “We’ve brought in a lot of players but it’s not as though we are putting all of them into the team straight away. “We still have a core. It’s not a new team, it’s an evolving team. “It’s a totally different scenario (to Tottenham). We are clear on our identity and the way we want to play. We’ve added exciting talent to that.” While many observers believe Liverpool will do well to replicate last season’s top-four finish, Rodgers claims his side are better equipped to again challenge for the championship. And the Reds boss insists his focus has purely been on the future rather than dwelling on how close his side came to ending a title drought that stretches back to 1990. “I’ll be totally honest, I’ve hardly given it a minute’s thought,” says Rodgers. “I never thought about what might have been. Nobody had to pick me up. “There was no expectancy on us, we weren’t expected to be in the top four and we aren’t even expected to be this season. “People might say last season was our best chance but I think this season is our best chance as we have more belief, and we are stronger as a squad. “Our aim is to be in the top four. Once you nail that fourth position, you can look beyond that.”[/p][/quote]Haven't got time to read that this morning thanks Search,but I'll scroll back to it,once I've finished 'War & Peace". Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

11:07am Sun 17 Aug 14

Blue means Success says...

Prediction for today

2nd Team of the North West 3
2nd Team of the South 1

The Super Reds will be attacking you down your left flank.

Lots of defensive teamwork to be sorted over the next few months, or you will be a basement team up to at least Christmas
Prediction for today 2nd Team of the North West 3 2nd Team of the South 1 The Super Reds will be attacking you down your left flank. Lots of defensive teamwork to be sorted over the next few months, or you will be a basement team up to at least Christmas Blue means Success
  • Score: -2

11:20am Sun 17 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Blue means Success wrote:
Prediction for today

2nd Team of the North West 3
2nd Team of the South 1

The Super Reds will be attacking you down your left flank.

Lots of defensive teamwork to be sorted over the next few months, or you will be a basement team up to at least Christmas
Ebbsfleet 3-0
F@ck off fish fiddker.
As for one pr1ck in the crowd, you can do one as well you obnoxious worm.
COYR FOADP
[quote][p][bold]Blue means Success[/bold] wrote: Prediction for today 2nd Team of the North West 3 2nd Team of the South 1 The Super Reds will be attacking you down your left flank. Lots of defensive teamwork to be sorted over the next few months, or you will be a basement team up to at least Christmas[/p][/quote]Ebbsfleet 3-0 F@ck off fish fiddker. As for one pr1ck in the crowd, you can do one as well you obnoxious worm. COYR FOADP J7junctionseven
  • Score: 0

11:20am Sun 17 Aug 14

buckie says...

I would of thought just as a passionate fan (that actually goes to all home games cant afford away) is that we should defer to the managers judgement we have to give him time to gel the new players into a premiership team that is competitive hoping for the best today COYS
I would of thought just as a passionate fan (that actually goes to all home games cant afford away) is that we should defer to the managers judgement we have to give him time to gel the new players into a premiership team that is competitive hoping for the best today COYS buckie
  • Score: 0

11:25am Sun 17 Aug 14

tarquin farquharson says...

No more CB signings - then we are screwed.

And we will be ripped apart today.

Very, very disappointed at the quality of replacements.
No more CB signings - then we are screwed. And we will be ripped apart today. Very, very disappointed at the quality of replacements. tarquin farquharson
  • Score: -1

11:26am Sun 17 Aug 14

Blue means Success says...

one in the crowd wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Brendan Rogers saying some very inflammatory things - I really want to ram them down his throat!!!!!!
Brendan Rodgers Did not say anything inflammatory, he just stated facts.


It's just business:
Why Rodgers has no sympathy for Southampton plight Reds boss has been on other side of transfer window

So if the Liverpool FC boss received little pity for the agonising manner in which Liverpool fell short of winning the championship last season, he can hardly be expected to lose any sleep over the plight of his Premier League rivals.
It was merely business as Rodgers continually plundered Southampton to replenish his Anfield squad during the summer transfer window.
The Saints’ reward for being the top-flight’s surprise package last season is having their squad torn apart following the departure of manager Mauricio Pochettino to Tottenham Hotspur.
Adam Lallana, Rickie Lambert and, most contentiously, Dejan Lovren all exchanged St Mary’s for Anfield, while Luke Shaw and Calum Chambers have also sought pastures new with Morgan Schneiderlin and Jay Rodriguez slated to follow suit.
The quirk of the fixture list means Lovren and Lambert will come up against their former club when Liverpool bring their Premier League campaign at home this afternoon.
But when asked if he had any sympathy for Southampton’s plight, Rodgers replies: “No, not at all.
“You have the choice as a club. You don’t have to sell.
“Maybe Southampton’s objectives have changed. They were on course, they were looking to be a Champions League club I believe. But they obviously wanted to change.
“We have taken three players but Arsenal have taken a player, Man United have taken one. There might be one or two others.
“That’s football. That’s the way it works.
“We were after a certain type of player that fits the profile and the mould of the way we play.
“They played in a similar mould to us, so the players understand the pressing, the intensity and the possession. So, I don’t have sympathy, no.”
Critics of the Financial Fair Play initiative argue Southampton’s plight is an example of how the ruling simply maintains the status quo and doesn’t allow smaller clubs to grow.
That, though, cuts no ice with Rodgers, who has experienced the other side of football’s imbalance when attempting to fend off potential suitors for his players while at Swansea City.
“Football has never changed,” he says. “It has always been like that.
“Listen, don’t get me wrong, Southampton are a great club. But so was Swansea.
“Swansea have produced a young player in Ben Davies and he’s now gone to Tottenham.
“Players will want to look to compete at the highest possible level they have. That’s the nature of it.
“Luke Shaw has gone to what he thinks is a bigger club. The guys have come here because of the status of Liverpool and Champions League football. It’s hard to deny players that. And that will always be the case.
“Lots of chairmen and executive understand that. When a situation comes along like this, all they can do is maximise what they can get for the talent and look to invest again. As a manager I have been in both situations.
“When I was at Swansea, there were a number of clubs in the Premier League who wanted to take some of our players. I was able to convince some to stay.
“As a manager you know that is going to happen.”
With Alberto Moreno having finally completed his protracted transfer, Rodgers has now brought in eight players during the summer with a striker still on his shopping list given Luis Suarez’s exit.
Comparisons have been made between the manner in which Tottenham Hotspur splashed the cash having lost Gareth Bale last year.
But the Reds boss says: “We’ve brought in a lot of players but it’s not as though we are putting all of them into the team straight away.
“We still have a core. It’s not a new team, it’s an evolving team.
“It’s a totally different scenario (to Tottenham). We are clear on our identity and the way we want to play. We’ve added exciting talent to that.”
While many observers believe Liverpool will do well to replicate last season’s top-four finish, Rodgers claims his side are better equipped to again challenge for the championship.
And the Reds boss insists his focus has purely been on the future rather than dwelling on how close his side came to ending a title drought that stretches back to 1990.
“I’ll be totally honest, I’ve hardly given it a minute’s thought,” says Rodgers. “I never thought about what might have been. Nobody had to pick me up.
“There was no expectancy on us, we weren’t expected to be in the top four and we aren’t even expected to be this season.
“People might say last season was our best chance but I think this season is our best chance as we have more belief, and we are stronger as a squad.
“Our aim is to be in the top four. Once you nail that fourth position, you can look beyond that.”
Do any Soton fans have sympathy for Liverpool losing Jaws? I bet they don't. Soton could have tried to hold onto their players, but the board couldn't take their eyes off the money on offer.

The board (and now the HC fans) keep on about FFP - but that doesn't properly kick in till 2018. They have hoodwinked their fans.
[quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Brendan Rogers saying some very inflammatory things - I really want to ram them down his throat!!!!!![/p][/quote]Brendan Rodgers Did not say anything inflammatory, he just stated facts. It's just business: Why Rodgers has no sympathy for Southampton plight Reds boss has been on other side of transfer window So if the Liverpool FC boss received little pity for the agonising manner in which Liverpool fell short of winning the championship last season, he can hardly be expected to lose any sleep over the plight of his Premier League rivals. It was merely business as Rodgers continually plundered Southampton to replenish his Anfield squad during the summer transfer window. The Saints’ reward for being the top-flight’s surprise package last season is having their squad torn apart following the departure of manager Mauricio Pochettino to Tottenham Hotspur. Adam Lallana, Rickie Lambert and, most contentiously, Dejan Lovren all exchanged St Mary’s for Anfield, while Luke Shaw and Calum Chambers have also sought pastures new with Morgan Schneiderlin and Jay Rodriguez slated to follow suit. The quirk of the fixture list means Lovren and Lambert will come up against their former club when Liverpool bring their Premier League campaign at home this afternoon. But when asked if he had any sympathy for Southampton’s plight, Rodgers replies: “No, not at all. “You have the choice as a club. You don’t have to sell. “Maybe Southampton’s objectives have changed. They were on course, they were looking to be a Champions League club I believe. But they obviously wanted to change. “We have taken three players but Arsenal have taken a player, Man United have taken one. There might be one or two others. “That’s football. That’s the way it works. “We were after a certain type of player that fits the profile and the mould of the way we play. “They played in a similar mould to us, so the players understand the pressing, the intensity and the possession. So, I don’t have sympathy, no.” Critics of the Financial Fair Play initiative argue Southampton’s plight is an example of how the ruling simply maintains the status quo and doesn’t allow smaller clubs to grow. That, though, cuts no ice with Rodgers, who has experienced the other side of football’s imbalance when attempting to fend off potential suitors for his players while at Swansea City. “Football has never changed,” he says. “It has always been like that. “Listen, don’t get me wrong, Southampton are a great club. But so was Swansea. “Swansea have produced a young player in Ben Davies and he’s now gone to Tottenham. “Players will want to look to compete at the highest possible level they have. That’s the nature of it. “Luke Shaw has gone to what he thinks is a bigger club. The guys have come here because of the status of Liverpool and Champions League football. It’s hard to deny players that. And that will always be the case. “Lots of chairmen and executive understand that. When a situation comes along like this, all they can do is maximise what they can get for the talent and look to invest again. As a manager I have been in both situations. “When I was at Swansea, there were a number of clubs in the Premier League who wanted to take some of our players. I was able to convince some to stay. “As a manager you know that is going to happen.” With Alberto Moreno having finally completed his protracted transfer, Rodgers has now brought in eight players during the summer with a striker still on his shopping list given Luis Suarez’s exit. Comparisons have been made between the manner in which Tottenham Hotspur splashed the cash having lost Gareth Bale last year. But the Reds boss says: “We’ve brought in a lot of players but it’s not as though we are putting all of them into the team straight away. “We still have a core. It’s not a new team, it’s an evolving team. “It’s a totally different scenario (to Tottenham). We are clear on our identity and the way we want to play. We’ve added exciting talent to that.” While many observers believe Liverpool will do well to replicate last season’s top-four finish, Rodgers claims his side are better equipped to again challenge for the championship. And the Reds boss insists his focus has purely been on the future rather than dwelling on how close his side came to ending a title drought that stretches back to 1990. “I’ll be totally honest, I’ve hardly given it a minute’s thought,” says Rodgers. “I never thought about what might have been. Nobody had to pick me up. “There was no expectancy on us, we weren’t expected to be in the top four and we aren’t even expected to be this season. “People might say last season was our best chance but I think this season is our best chance as we have more belief, and we are stronger as a squad. “Our aim is to be in the top four. Once you nail that fourth position, you can look beyond that.”[/p][/quote]Do any Soton fans have sympathy for Liverpool losing Jaws? I bet they don't. Soton could have tried to hold onto their players, but the board couldn't take their eyes off the money on offer. The board (and now the HC fans) keep on about FFP - but that doesn't properly kick in till 2018. They have hoodwinked their fans. Blue means Success
  • Score: 0

11:43am Sun 17 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Seems the happy clappers are out in force today and any sort of criticism constructive or otherwise is not welcome.
It does lead to an unfair representation of fans views, however it's the first game of the new season enjoy your tubthumping, back slapping moment.

Heart says we could win, head says we will lose. sorry for being a realist.
No this is the way the forum always was, you just don't like it because you thought your view were popular, they weren't. As people told you many times sammynobrains and his alter egos were makin it look like there were a lot more neggies than there actually are, yet you fell for his Wumming!

I do wonder why a saints fan who comes on this site every day doesn't know that Gardos is out for 2-3 weeks with a hamstring injury?

Why should we be bothered about how many of the team started last year? We have sold some and replaced them and replaced others with better, thats football.
Oh dear horse.... As someone who loves football I'd say starting with only 3 of last years brilliant team is going to make this seasons fixture a little difficult.
You still go on about the replacements being better??
How do you know this? You have not seen them play a competitive match against premier league opposition ... In your deluded view a £5m center half is better than a £20m center half... why are you not chief scout at Real madrid.
Well done for convincing yourself that the Saints are the best team on the planet, sadly the realists amongst us know this is not really the case.
We don't know how many of last years players are going to start.

You don't know if the players are worse than the ones that played last year.

We have seen them play against very good sides in Europe though and they look adequate replacements and the squad looks to shaping up with a couple more additions to be better than last year.

Lovren is so clearly not a £20 million centre half and from reports on the web the new guy was purchased at a good price so your comparison/analogy is crap.

No one has convincer theirselves that saints are the best team at all but we support our club.

I would like it if you were chief scout for Liverpool as with your obvious lack of football knowledge you could mess them right up.
Players who are still with us that started last years fixture who could start today.
Boruc.
Clyne,
Fonte,
Schneiderlin
Wanayama.
My thinking is that only 3 of these will start.
I have not said that the new players are worse than the ones that left, I have said how can you tell me that the replacements are better, you say, you've seen our new players play against ''very good sides in europe''...
When? We have only played one decent european side, Bayer Leverkusan.

You say Lovren is clearly not a £20m centre half.... how much was he sold for? This figure represents his value, regardless of what you think.
There is absolutely no argument to this. This is fact.

According to you,reports on the web say we got Florin at a good price?

Winston Churchill advised us not to believe everything you read on-line.

Anyway lets agree to disagree and concentrate on supporting the team this afternoon. Agreed?
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Seems the happy clappers are out in force today and any sort of criticism constructive or otherwise is not welcome. It does lead to an unfair representation of fans views, however it's the first game of the new season enjoy your tubthumping, back slapping moment. Heart says we could win, head says we will lose. sorry for being a realist.[/p][/quote]No this is the way the forum always was, you just don't like it because you thought your view were popular, they weren't. As people told you many times sammynobrains and his alter egos were makin it look like there were a lot more neggies than there actually are, yet you fell for his Wumming! I do wonder why a saints fan who comes on this site every day doesn't know that Gardos is out for 2-3 weeks with a hamstring injury? Why should we be bothered about how many of the team started last year? We have sold some and replaced them and replaced others with better, thats football.[/p][/quote]Oh dear horse.... As someone who loves football I'd say starting with only 3 of last years brilliant team is going to make this seasons fixture a little difficult. You still go on about the replacements being better?? How do you know this? You have not seen them play a competitive match against premier league opposition ... In your deluded view a £5m center half is better than a £20m center half... why are you not chief scout at Real madrid. Well done for convincing yourself that the Saints are the best team on the planet, sadly the realists amongst us know this is not really the case.[/p][/quote]We don't know how many of last years players are going to start. You don't know if the players are worse than the ones that played last year. We have seen them play against very good sides in Europe though and they look adequate replacements and the squad looks to shaping up with a couple more additions to be better than last year. Lovren is so clearly not a £20 million centre half and from reports on the web the new guy was purchased at a good price so your comparison/analogy is crap. No one has convincer theirselves that saints are the best team at all but we support our club. I would like it if you were chief scout for Liverpool as with your obvious lack of football knowledge you could mess them right up.[/p][/quote]Players who are still with us that started last years fixture who could start today. Boruc. Clyne, Fonte, Schneiderlin Wanayama. My thinking is that only 3 of these will start. I have not said that the new players are worse than the ones that left, I have said how can you tell me that the replacements are better, you say, you've seen our new players play against ''very good sides in europe''... When? We have only played one decent european side, Bayer Leverkusan. You say Lovren is clearly not a £20m centre half.... how much was he sold for? This figure represents his value, regardless of what you think. There is absolutely no argument to this. This is fact. According to you,reports on the web say we got Florin at a good price? Winston Churchill advised us not to believe everything you read on-line. Anyway lets agree to disagree and concentrate on supporting the team this afternoon. Agreed? costa gaz
  • Score: -1

11:52am Sun 17 Aug 14

john lad says...

Agree with others who suggest we are in trouble should we suffer an injury at centre back. If JH gets anywhere near the starting eleven we are in big trouble especially if our our "protection" (Wanyama) is missing for any reason. Young Chambers at Arsenal would be a good buy and excellent cover because he can double up as cover at right back also...
Agree with others who suggest we are in trouble should we suffer an injury at centre back. If JH gets anywhere near the starting eleven we are in big trouble especially if our our "protection" (Wanyama) is missing for any reason. Young Chambers at Arsenal would be a good buy and excellent cover because he can double up as cover at right back also... john lad
  • Score: 0

11:59am Sun 17 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

costa gaz wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Seems the happy clappers are out in force today and any sort of criticism constructive or otherwise is not welcome.
It does lead to an unfair representation of fans views, however it's the first game of the new season enjoy your tubthumping, back slapping moment.

Heart says we could win, head says we will lose. sorry for being a realist.
No this is the way the forum always was, you just don't like it because you thought your view were popular, they weren't. As people told you many times sammynobrains and his alter egos were makin it look like there were a lot more neggies than there actually are, yet you fell for his Wumming!

I do wonder why a saints fan who comes on this site every day doesn't know that Gardos is out for 2-3 weeks with a hamstring injury?

Why should we be bothered about how many of the team started last year? We have sold some and replaced them and replaced others with better, thats football.
Oh dear horse.... As someone who loves football I'd say starting with only 3 of last years brilliant team is going to make this seasons fixture a little difficult.
You still go on about the replacements being better??
How do you know this? You have not seen them play a competitive match against premier league opposition ... In your deluded view a £5m center half is better than a £20m center half... why are you not chief scout at Real madrid.
Well done for convincing yourself that the Saints are the best team on the planet, sadly the realists amongst us know this is not really the case.
have you seen the team then Gaz? please let us know whos starting, as you obviously know! you could also, while your at it, let us know how Gardos has recovered so quickly!

I`m getting concerned about your eyes though, have you lost your glasses?
if you bothered to properly read what I said you will see that I didn't say the replacements for the players sold were `better`. what I said was we have sold some players `and replaced them` AND replaced others with better! others being players who haven't been sold, ie Forster has replaced AB in goal, I think its easy to argue that Forster is the better keeper. we have replaced Osvaldo with long, could anyone say Osvaldo is better? I could also argue that Taider is a better player than Gaston. as I haven't seen the squad play a competitive game a cant say if the new players are better than those sold or not. what I can say is you cant judge how good a player is by their transfer fee. did dejerk become twice the player he was whilst he was here? is he less than half as good as Davi Luiz? is fellani a better player than liarlanna? I think that judging a player on price before seeing them player is a very deluded way of looking at things, so if anyone is deluded here its you. put it this way, a year ago Gardos would have cost around the same £6mill as we paid this year and Dejerk cost £8.5mill, so according to you Dejerk was only slightly better than Gardos. why dnt you give the players a chance before you write them off as rubbish!
as I say you really should read what people post before having digs at them and getting things wrong and making yourself look like a fool!
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Seems the happy clappers are out in force today and any sort of criticism constructive or otherwise is not welcome. It does lead to an unfair representation of fans views, however it's the first game of the new season enjoy your tubthumping, back slapping moment. Heart says we could win, head says we will lose. sorry for being a realist.[/p][/quote]No this is the way the forum always was, you just don't like it because you thought your view were popular, they weren't. As people told you many times sammynobrains and his alter egos were makin it look like there were a lot more neggies than there actually are, yet you fell for his Wumming! I do wonder why a saints fan who comes on this site every day doesn't know that Gardos is out for 2-3 weeks with a hamstring injury? Why should we be bothered about how many of the team started last year? We have sold some and replaced them and replaced others with better, thats football.[/p][/quote]Oh dear horse.... As someone who loves football I'd say starting with only 3 of last years brilliant team is going to make this seasons fixture a little difficult. You still go on about the replacements being better?? How do you know this? You have not seen them play a competitive match against premier league opposition ... In your deluded view a £5m center half is better than a £20m center half... why are you not chief scout at Real madrid. Well done for convincing yourself that the Saints are the best team on the planet, sadly the realists amongst us know this is not really the case.[/p][/quote]have you seen the team then Gaz? please let us know whos starting, as you obviously know! you could also, while your at it, let us know how Gardos has recovered so quickly! I`m getting concerned about your eyes though, have you lost your glasses? if you bothered to properly read what I said you will see that I didn't say the replacements for the players sold were `better`. what I said was we have sold some players `and replaced them` AND replaced others with better! others being players who haven't been sold, ie Forster has replaced AB in goal, I think its easy to argue that Forster is the better keeper. we have replaced Osvaldo with long, could anyone say Osvaldo is better? I could also argue that Taider is a better player than Gaston. as I haven't seen the squad play a competitive game a cant say if the new players are better than those sold or not. what I can say is you cant judge how good a player is by their transfer fee. did dejerk become twice the player he was whilst he was here? is he less than half as good as Davi Luiz? is fellani a better player than liarlanna? I think that judging a player on price before seeing them player is a very deluded way of looking at things, so if anyone is deluded here its you. put it this way, a year ago Gardos would have cost around the same £6mill as we paid this year and Dejerk cost £8.5mill, so according to you Dejerk was only slightly better than Gardos. why dnt you give the players a chance before you write them off as rubbish! as I say you really should read what people post before having digs at them and getting things wrong and making yourself look like a fool! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 0

12:05pm Sun 17 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Seems the happy clappers are out in force today and any sort of criticism constructive or otherwise is not welcome.
It does lead to an unfair representation of fans views, however it's the first game of the new season enjoy your tubthumping, back slapping moment.

Heart says we could win, head says we will lose. sorry for being a realist.
No this is the way the forum always was, you just don't like it because you thought your view were popular, they weren't. As people told you many times sammynobrains and his alter egos were makin it look like there were a lot more neggies than there actually are, yet you fell for his Wumming!

I do wonder why a saints fan who comes on this site every day doesn't know that Gardos is out for 2-3 weeks with a hamstring injury?

Why should we be bothered about how many of the team started last year? We have sold some and replaced them and replaced others with better, thats football.
Oh dear horse.... As someone who loves football I'd say starting with only 3 of last years brilliant team is going to make this seasons fixture a little difficult.
You still go on about the replacements being better??
How do you know this? You have not seen them play a competitive match against premier league opposition ... In your deluded view a £5m center half is better than a £20m center half... why are you not chief scout at Real madrid.
Well done for convincing yourself that the Saints are the best team on the planet, sadly the realists amongst us know this is not really the case.
have you seen the team then Gaz? please let us know whos starting, as you obviously know! you could also, while your at it, let us know how Gardos has recovered so quickly!

I`m getting concerned about your eyes though, have you lost your glasses?
if you bothered to properly read what I said you will see that I didn't say the replacements for the players sold were `better`. what I said was we have sold some players `and replaced them` AND replaced others with better! others being players who haven't been sold, ie Forster has replaced AB in goal, I think its easy to argue that Forster is the better keeper. we have replaced Osvaldo with long, could anyone say Osvaldo is better? I could also argue that Taider is a better player than Gaston. as I haven't seen the squad play a competitive game a cant say if the new players are better than those sold or not. what I can say is you cant judge how good a player is by their transfer fee. did dejerk become twice the player he was whilst he was here? is he less than half as good as Davi Luiz? is fellani a better player than liarlanna? I think that judging a player on price before seeing them player is a very deluded way of looking at things, so if anyone is deluded here its you. put it this way, a year ago Gardos would have cost around the same £6mill as we paid this year and Dejerk cost £8.5mill, so according to you Dejerk was only slightly better than Gardos. why dnt you give the players a chance before you write them off as rubbish!
as I say you really should read what people post before having digs at them and getting things wrong and making yourself look like a fool!
Good grief !!! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ....
...
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Seems the happy clappers are out in force today and any sort of criticism constructive or otherwise is not welcome. It does lead to an unfair representation of fans views, however it's the first game of the new season enjoy your tubthumping, back slapping moment. Heart says we could win, head says we will lose. sorry for being a realist.[/p][/quote]No this is the way the forum always was, you just don't like it because you thought your view were popular, they weren't. As people told you many times sammynobrains and his alter egos were makin it look like there were a lot more neggies than there actually are, yet you fell for his Wumming! I do wonder why a saints fan who comes on this site every day doesn't know that Gardos is out for 2-3 weeks with a hamstring injury? Why should we be bothered about how many of the team started last year? We have sold some and replaced them and replaced others with better, thats football.[/p][/quote]Oh dear horse.... As someone who loves football I'd say starting with only 3 of last years brilliant team is going to make this seasons fixture a little difficult. You still go on about the replacements being better?? How do you know this? You have not seen them play a competitive match against premier league opposition ... In your deluded view a £5m center half is better than a £20m center half... why are you not chief scout at Real madrid. Well done for convincing yourself that the Saints are the best team on the planet, sadly the realists amongst us know this is not really the case.[/p][/quote]have you seen the team then Gaz? please let us know whos starting, as you obviously know! you could also, while your at it, let us know how Gardos has recovered so quickly! I`m getting concerned about your eyes though, have you lost your glasses? if you bothered to properly read what I said you will see that I didn't say the replacements for the players sold were `better`. what I said was we have sold some players `and replaced them` AND replaced others with better! others being players who haven't been sold, ie Forster has replaced AB in goal, I think its easy to argue that Forster is the better keeper. we have replaced Osvaldo with long, could anyone say Osvaldo is better? I could also argue that Taider is a better player than Gaston. as I haven't seen the squad play a competitive game a cant say if the new players are better than those sold or not. what I can say is you cant judge how good a player is by their transfer fee. did dejerk become twice the player he was whilst he was here? is he less than half as good as Davi Luiz? is fellani a better player than liarlanna? I think that judging a player on price before seeing them player is a very deluded way of looking at things, so if anyone is deluded here its you. put it this way, a year ago Gardos would have cost around the same £6mill as we paid this year and Dejerk cost £8.5mill, so according to you Dejerk was only slightly better than Gardos. why dnt you give the players a chance before you write them off as rubbish! as I say you really should read what people post before having digs at them and getting things wrong and making yourself look like a fool![/p][/quote]Good grief !!! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.... ... costa gaz
  • Score: 1

12:10pm Sun 17 Aug 14

saintbobby says...

Simmo13 wrote:
Suggest you all have a look at that horrible cretin of a man Brendan Rodgers saying he has no sympathy for Southampton they chose to sell their players but he forgets to mention his illegal way of getting them with his wonder boy Gerrard tapping them up for him on England duty !!
They may well beat us today but I sincerely hope they win nothing this season what a vile man and club they are !!!
Simmo, a big pat on the back from me, old son! That is just how I believe it was - tapped up, yes, sir no bloody argument! Played well, picked for England and Gerrard got at you. At least, he has finished.

Now everyone, please do not forget the woe that is me with my 2 sons supporting PinchyourplayersPool
! Where did I go wrong, we have never been anywhere near that city - and I never will.
[quote][p][bold]Simmo13[/bold] wrote: Suggest you all have a look at that horrible cretin of a man Brendan Rodgers saying he has no sympathy for Southampton they chose to sell their players but he forgets to mention his illegal way of getting them with his wonder boy Gerrard tapping them up for him on England duty !! They may well beat us today but I sincerely hope they win nothing this season what a vile man and club they are !!![/p][/quote]Simmo, a big pat on the back from me, old son! That is just how I believe it was - tapped up, yes, sir no bloody argument! Played well, picked for England and Gerrard got at you. At least, he has finished. Now everyone, please do not forget the woe that is me with my 2 sons supporting PinchyourplayersPool ! Where did I go wrong, we have never been anywhere near that city - and I never will. saintbobby
  • Score: 1

12:19pm Sun 17 Aug 14

donni1437 says...

I hope RK sees something we don't as the central defensive area has weakened over the summer and needed strengthening before we let Lovren and Chambers go. He was a top defender in his time so figure he knows best.
I hope RK sees something we don't as the central defensive area has weakened over the summer and needed strengthening before we let Lovren and Chambers go. He was a top defender in his time so figure he knows best. donni1437
  • Score: 0

12:20pm Sun 17 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

costa gaz wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Seems the happy clappers are out in force today and any sort of criticism constructive or otherwise is not welcome.
It does lead to an unfair representation of fans views, however it's the first game of the new season enjoy your tubthumping, back slapping moment.

Heart says we could win, head says we will lose. sorry for being a realist.
No this is the way the forum always was, you just don't like it because you thought your view were popular, they weren't. As people told you many times sammynobrains and his alter egos were makin it look like there were a lot more neggies than there actually are, yet you fell for his Wumming!

I do wonder why a saints fan who comes on this site every day doesn't know that Gardos is out for 2-3 weeks with a hamstring injury?

Why should we be bothered about how many of the team started last year? We have sold some and replaced them and replaced others with better, thats football.
Oh dear horse.... As someone who loves football I'd say starting with only 3 of last years brilliant team is going to make this seasons fixture a little difficult.
You still go on about the replacements being better??
How do you know this? You have not seen them play a competitive match against premier league opposition ... In your deluded view a £5m center half is better than a £20m center half... why are you not chief scout at Real madrid.
Well done for convincing yourself that the Saints are the best team on the planet, sadly the realists amongst us know this is not really the case.
We don't know how many of last years players are going to start.

You don't know if the players are worse than the ones that played last year.

We have seen them play against very good sides in Europe though and they look adequate replacements and the squad looks to shaping up with a couple more additions to be better than last year.

Lovren is so clearly not a £20 million centre half and from reports on the web the new guy was purchased at a good price so your comparison/analogy is crap.

No one has convincer theirselves that saints are the best team at all but we support our club.

I would like it if you were chief scout for Liverpool as with your obvious lack of football knowledge you could mess them right up.
Players who are still with us that started last years fixture who could start today.
Boruc.
Clyne,
Fonte,
Schneiderlin
Wanayama.
My thinking is that only 3 of these will start.
I have not said that the new players are worse than the ones that left, I have said how can you tell me that the replacements are better, you say, you've seen our new players play against ''very good sides in europe''...
When? We have only played one decent european side, Bayer Leverkusan.

You say Lovren is clearly not a £20m centre half.... how much was he sold for? This figure represents his value, regardless of what you think.
There is absolutely no argument to this. This is fact.

According to you,reports on the web say we got Florin at a good price?

Winston Churchill advised us not to believe everything you read on-line.

Anyway lets agree to disagree and concentrate on supporting the team this afternoon. Agreed?
Players who are still with us that started last years fixture who could start today.
Boruc.
Clyne,
Fonte,
Schneiderlin
Wanayama.
My thinking is that only 3 of these will start.

I don't have to much confidence in your thinking, as Boycie said to trigger I do the thinking you don't.

For their previous clubs.

Why the arrogance that the premiership is the best league, how have we faired in Europe recently.

So you are saying that when we purchased Lovren he was a 6/8 million player and we improved him so much he is now worth 20 million??

The only reason he is a 20 million player is because we held out for the that figure and Liverpool were prepared to pay it.

They do and he is and will prove his worth I am sure.

You use things people of said and things you read to substantiate your argument when it suits you and ignore them when it doesn't.


Agreed.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Seems the happy clappers are out in force today and any sort of criticism constructive or otherwise is not welcome. It does lead to an unfair representation of fans views, however it's the first game of the new season enjoy your tubthumping, back slapping moment. Heart says we could win, head says we will lose. sorry for being a realist.[/p][/quote]No this is the way the forum always was, you just don't like it because you thought your view were popular, they weren't. As people told you many times sammynobrains and his alter egos were makin it look like there were a lot more neggies than there actually are, yet you fell for his Wumming! I do wonder why a saints fan who comes on this site every day doesn't know that Gardos is out for 2-3 weeks with a hamstring injury? Why should we be bothered about how many of the team started last year? We have sold some and replaced them and replaced others with better, thats football.[/p][/quote]Oh dear horse.... As someone who loves football I'd say starting with only 3 of last years brilliant team is going to make this seasons fixture a little difficult. You still go on about the replacements being better?? How do you know this? You have not seen them play a competitive match against premier league opposition ... In your deluded view a £5m center half is better than a £20m center half... why are you not chief scout at Real madrid. Well done for convincing yourself that the Saints are the best team on the planet, sadly the realists amongst us know this is not really the case.[/p][/quote]We don't know how many of last years players are going to start. You don't know if the players are worse than the ones that played last year. We have seen them play against very good sides in Europe though and they look adequate replacements and the squad looks to shaping up with a couple more additions to be better than last year. Lovren is so clearly not a £20 million centre half and from reports on the web the new guy was purchased at a good price so your comparison/analogy is crap. No one has convincer theirselves that saints are the best team at all but we support our club. I would like it if you were chief scout for Liverpool as with your obvious lack of football knowledge you could mess them right up.[/p][/quote]Players who are still with us that started last years fixture who could start today. Boruc. Clyne, Fonte, Schneiderlin Wanayama. My thinking is that only 3 of these will start. I have not said that the new players are worse than the ones that left, I have said how can you tell me that the replacements are better, you say, you've seen our new players play against ''very good sides in europe''... When? We have only played one decent european side, Bayer Leverkusan. You say Lovren is clearly not a £20m centre half.... how much was he sold for? This figure represents his value, regardless of what you think. There is absolutely no argument to this. This is fact. According to you,reports on the web say we got Florin at a good price? Winston Churchill advised us not to believe everything you read on-line. Anyway lets agree to disagree and concentrate on supporting the team this afternoon. Agreed?[/p][/quote]Players who are still with us that started last years fixture who could start today. Boruc. Clyne, Fonte, Schneiderlin Wanayama. My thinking is that only 3 of these will start. I don't have to much confidence in your thinking, as Boycie said to trigger I do the thinking you don't. For their previous clubs. Why the arrogance that the premiership is the best league, how have we faired in Europe recently. So you are saying that when we purchased Lovren he was a 6/8 million player and we improved him so much he is now worth 20 million?? The only reason he is a 20 million player is because we held out for the that figure and Liverpool were prepared to pay it. They do and he is and will prove his worth I am sure. You use things people of said and things you read to substantiate your argument when it suits you and ignore them when it doesn't. Agreed. fascia123
  • Score: 0

12:21pm Sun 17 Aug 14

saints fan #1 says...

Just some states for the
In 31 games liverhapton vs SAINTS
14 wins liverhampton
9 WINS SAINTS
7 draws
Just because we have had a change in the engine room of the Saints doesn't mean we aren't coming out with all 3 points.
Last game at Anfield Saints came out with all 3 points
COYRW my prediction SAINTS 3 - Fake saints 0
Just some states for the In 31 games liverhapton vs SAINTS 14 wins liverhampton 9 WINS SAINTS 7 draws Just because we have had a change in the engine room of the Saints doesn't mean we aren't coming out with all 3 points. Last game at Anfield Saints came out with all 3 points COYRW my prediction SAINTS 3 - Fake saints 0 saints fan #1
  • Score: 1

12:22pm Sun 17 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

costa gaz wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Seems the happy clappers are out in force today and any sort of criticism constructive or otherwise is not welcome.
It does lead to an unfair representation of fans views, however it's the first game of the new season enjoy your tubthumping, back slapping moment.

Heart says we could win, head says we will lose. sorry for being a realist.
No this is the way the forum always was, you just don't like it because you thought your view were popular, they weren't. As people told you many times sammynobrains and his alter egos were makin it look like there were a lot more neggies than there actually are, yet you fell for his Wumming!

I do wonder why a saints fan who comes on this site every day doesn't know that Gardos is out for 2-3 weeks with a hamstring injury?

Why should we be bothered about how many of the team started last year? We have sold some and replaced them and replaced others with better, thats football.
Oh dear horse.... As someone who loves football I'd say starting with only 3 of last years brilliant team is going to make this seasons fixture a little difficult.
You still go on about the replacements being better??
How do you know this? You have not seen them play a competitive match against premier league opposition ... In your deluded view a £5m center half is better than a £20m center half... why are you not chief scout at Real madrid.
Well done for convincing yourself that the Saints are the best team on the planet, sadly the realists amongst us know this is not really the case.
have you seen the team then Gaz? please let us know whos starting, as you obviously know! you could also, while your at it, let us know how Gardos has recovered so quickly!

I`m getting concerned about your eyes though, have you lost your glasses?
if you bothered to properly read what I said you will see that I didn't say the replacements for the players sold were `better`. what I said was we have sold some players `and replaced them` AND replaced others with better! others being players who haven't been sold, ie Forster has replaced AB in goal, I think its easy to argue that Forster is the better keeper. we have replaced Osvaldo with long, could anyone say Osvaldo is better? I could also argue that Taider is a better player than Gaston. as I haven't seen the squad play a competitive game a cant say if the new players are better than those sold or not. what I can say is you cant judge how good a player is by their transfer fee. did dejerk become twice the player he was whilst he was here? is he less than half as good as Davi Luiz? is fellani a better player than liarlanna? I think that judging a player on price before seeing them player is a very deluded way of looking at things, so if anyone is deluded here its you. put it this way, a year ago Gardos would have cost around the same £6mill as we paid this year and Dejerk cost £8.5mill, so according to you Dejerk was only slightly better than Gardos. why dnt you give the players a chance before you write them off as rubbish!
as I say you really should read what people post before having digs at them and getting things wrong and making yourself look like a fool!
Good grief !!! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ....

...
typical response from someone who has realised they have made a mistake and therefore made themselves look a fool!
you got it wrong again Gaz, just accept it and move on!
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Seems the happy clappers are out in force today and any sort of criticism constructive or otherwise is not welcome. It does lead to an unfair representation of fans views, however it's the first game of the new season enjoy your tubthumping, back slapping moment. Heart says we could win, head says we will lose. sorry for being a realist.[/p][/quote]No this is the way the forum always was, you just don't like it because you thought your view were popular, they weren't. As people told you many times sammynobrains and his alter egos were makin it look like there were a lot more neggies than there actually are, yet you fell for his Wumming! I do wonder why a saints fan who comes on this site every day doesn't know that Gardos is out for 2-3 weeks with a hamstring injury? Why should we be bothered about how many of the team started last year? We have sold some and replaced them and replaced others with better, thats football.[/p][/quote]Oh dear horse.... As someone who loves football I'd say starting with only 3 of last years brilliant team is going to make this seasons fixture a little difficult. You still go on about the replacements being better?? How do you know this? You have not seen them play a competitive match against premier league opposition ... In your deluded view a £5m center half is better than a £20m center half... why are you not chief scout at Real madrid. Well done for convincing yourself that the Saints are the best team on the planet, sadly the realists amongst us know this is not really the case.[/p][/quote]have you seen the team then Gaz? please let us know whos starting, as you obviously know! you could also, while your at it, let us know how Gardos has recovered so quickly! I`m getting concerned about your eyes though, have you lost your glasses? if you bothered to properly read what I said you will see that I didn't say the replacements for the players sold were `better`. what I said was we have sold some players `and replaced them` AND replaced others with better! others being players who haven't been sold, ie Forster has replaced AB in goal, I think its easy to argue that Forster is the better keeper. we have replaced Osvaldo with long, could anyone say Osvaldo is better? I could also argue that Taider is a better player than Gaston. as I haven't seen the squad play a competitive game a cant say if the new players are better than those sold or not. what I can say is you cant judge how good a player is by their transfer fee. did dejerk become twice the player he was whilst he was here? is he less than half as good as Davi Luiz? is fellani a better player than liarlanna? I think that judging a player on price before seeing them player is a very deluded way of looking at things, so if anyone is deluded here its you. put it this way, a year ago Gardos would have cost around the same £6mill as we paid this year and Dejerk cost £8.5mill, so according to you Dejerk was only slightly better than Gardos. why dnt you give the players a chance before you write them off as rubbish! as I say you really should read what people post before having digs at them and getting things wrong and making yourself look like a fool![/p][/quote]Good grief !!! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.... ...[/p][/quote]typical response from someone who has realised they have made a mistake and therefore made themselves look a fool! you got it wrong again Gaz, just accept it and move on! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 0

12:25pm Sun 17 Aug 14

st bevois says...

We may not be buying a CB but Sky Sports are saying that we have bid for Andros Townsend. Hope that's because we are in a strong position and don’t need to sell Morgan and not to facilitate and exchange plus cash. Time to play with Spurs, as they have put themselves in a “difficult position” needing to jettison so many players!!!!
Also 2 bids for JC rejected apparently.
COYR – come on the travelling faithful – let’s hear the noise!!!!! 
We may not be buying a CB but Sky Sports are saying that we have bid for Andros Townsend. Hope that's because we are in a strong position and don’t need to sell Morgan and not to facilitate and exchange plus cash. Time to play with Spurs, as they have put themselves in a “difficult position” needing to jettison so many players!!!! Also 2 bids for JC rejected apparently. COYR – come on the travelling faithful – let’s hear the noise!!!!!  st bevois
  • Score: 1

12:31pm Sun 17 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

st bevois wrote:
We may not be buying a CB but Sky Sports are saying that we have bid for Andros Townsend. Hope that's because we are in a strong position and don’t need to sell Morgan and not to facilitate and exchange plus cash. Time to play with Spurs, as they have put themselves in a “difficult position” needing to jettison so many players!!!!
Also 2 bids for JC rejected apparently.
COYR – come on the travelling faithful – let’s hear the noise!!!!! 
JC ?
[quote][p][bold]st bevois[/bold] wrote: We may not be buying a CB but Sky Sports are saying that we have bid for Andros Townsend. Hope that's because we are in a strong position and don’t need to sell Morgan and not to facilitate and exchange plus cash. Time to play with Spurs, as they have put themselves in a “difficult position” needing to jettison so many players!!!! Also 2 bids for JC rejected apparently. COYR – come on the travelling faithful – let’s hear the noise!!!!! [/p][/quote]JC ? fascia123
  • Score: 1

12:46pm Sun 17 Aug 14

jls217 says...

st bevois wrote:
We may not be buying a CB but Sky Sports are saying that we have bid for Andros Townsend. Hope that's because we are in a strong position and don’t need to sell Morgan and not to facilitate and exchange plus cash. Time to play with Spurs, as they have put themselves in a “difficult position” needing to jettison so many players!!!!
Also 2 bids for JC rejected apparently.
COYR – come on the travelling faithful – let’s hear the noise!!!!! 
Does Spurs have anyone we A. Need or B. Want.

How is Townsend's medical state - he does seem to have more than his fair share of niggling injuries.

Kane as a long term strike prospect but who else?
[quote][p][bold]st bevois[/bold] wrote: We may not be buying a CB but Sky Sports are saying that we have bid for Andros Townsend. Hope that's because we are in a strong position and don’t need to sell Morgan and not to facilitate and exchange plus cash. Time to play with Spurs, as they have put themselves in a “difficult position” needing to jettison so many players!!!! Also 2 bids for JC rejected apparently. COYR – come on the travelling faithful – let’s hear the noise!!!!! [/p][/quote]Does Spurs have anyone we A. Need or B. Want. How is Townsend's medical state - he does seem to have more than his fair share of niggling injuries. Kane as a long term strike prospect but who else? jls217
  • Score: 0

12:48pm Sun 17 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Seems the happy clappers are out in force today and any sort of criticism constructive or otherwise is not welcome.
It does lead to an unfair representation of fans views, however it's the first game of the new season enjoy your tubthumping, back slapping moment.

Heart says we could win, head says we will lose. sorry for being a realist.
No this is the way the forum always was, you just don't like it because you thought your view were popular, they weren't. As people told you many times sammynobrains and his alter egos were makin it look like there were a lot more neggies than there actually are, yet you fell for his Wumming!

I do wonder why a saints fan who comes on this site every day doesn't know that Gardos is out for 2-3 weeks with a hamstring injury?

Why should we be bothered about how many of the team started last year? We have sold some and replaced them and replaced others with better, thats football.
Oh dear horse.... As someone who loves football I'd say starting with only 3 of last years brilliant team is going to make this seasons fixture a little difficult.
You still go on about the replacements being better??
How do you know this? You have not seen them play a competitive match against premier league opposition ... In your deluded view a £5m center half is better than a £20m center half... why are you not chief scout at Real madrid.
Well done for convincing yourself that the Saints are the best team on the planet, sadly the realists amongst us know this is not really the case.
have you seen the team then Gaz? please let us know whos starting, as you obviously know! you could also, while your at it, let us know how Gardos has recovered so quickly!

I`m getting concerned about your eyes though, have you lost your glasses?
if you bothered to properly read what I said you will see that I didn't say the replacements for the players sold were `better`. what I said was we have sold some players `and replaced them` AND replaced others with better! others being players who haven't been sold, ie Forster has replaced AB in goal, I think its easy to argue that Forster is the better keeper. we have replaced Osvaldo with long, could anyone say Osvaldo is better? I could also argue that Taider is a better player than Gaston. as I haven't seen the squad play a competitive game a cant say if the new players are better than those sold or not. what I can say is you cant judge how good a player is by their transfer fee. did dejerk become twice the player he was whilst he was here? is he less than half as good as Davi Luiz? is fellani a better player than liarlanna? I think that judging a player on price before seeing them player is a very deluded way of looking at things, so if anyone is deluded here its you. put it this way, a year ago Gardos would have cost around the same £6mill as we paid this year and Dejerk cost £8.5mill, so according to you Dejerk was only slightly better than Gardos. why dnt you give the players a chance before you write them off as rubbish!
as I say you really should read what people post before having digs at them and getting things wrong and making yourself look like a fool!
Good grief !!! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ....


...
typical response from someone who has realised they have made a mistake and therefore made themselves look a fool!
you got it wrong again Gaz, just accept it and move on!
Horse ..just can't be bothered to discuss saints with you anymore..

So just for you... you are 100% correct albiet totally boring and I have called absolutely everything wrong... you happy now ?

Now go bore some other people and leave me alone
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Seems the happy clappers are out in force today and any sort of criticism constructive or otherwise is not welcome. It does lead to an unfair representation of fans views, however it's the first game of the new season enjoy your tubthumping, back slapping moment. Heart says we could win, head says we will lose. sorry for being a realist.[/p][/quote]No this is the way the forum always was, you just don't like it because you thought your view were popular, they weren't. As people told you many times sammynobrains and his alter egos were makin it look like there were a lot more neggies than there actually are, yet you fell for his Wumming! I do wonder why a saints fan who comes on this site every day doesn't know that Gardos is out for 2-3 weeks with a hamstring injury? Why should we be bothered about how many of the team started last year? We have sold some and replaced them and replaced others with better, thats football.[/p][/quote]Oh dear horse.... As someone who loves football I'd say starting with only 3 of last years brilliant team is going to make this seasons fixture a little difficult. You still go on about the replacements being better?? How do you know this? You have not seen them play a competitive match against premier league opposition ... In your deluded view a £5m center half is better than a £20m center half... why are you not chief scout at Real madrid. Well done for convincing yourself that the Saints are the best team on the planet, sadly the realists amongst us know this is not really the case.[/p][/quote]have you seen the team then Gaz? please let us know whos starting, as you obviously know! you could also, while your at it, let us know how Gardos has recovered so quickly! I`m getting concerned about your eyes though, have you lost your glasses? if you bothered to properly read what I said you will see that I didn't say the replacements for the players sold were `better`. what I said was we have sold some players `and replaced them` AND replaced others with better! others being players who haven't been sold, ie Forster has replaced AB in goal, I think its easy to argue that Forster is the better keeper. we have replaced Osvaldo with long, could anyone say Osvaldo is better? I could also argue that Taider is a better player than Gaston. as I haven't seen the squad play a competitive game a cant say if the new players are better than those sold or not. what I can say is you cant judge how good a player is by their transfer fee. did dejerk become twice the player he was whilst he was here? is he less than half as good as Davi Luiz? is fellani a better player than liarlanna? I think that judging a player on price before seeing them player is a very deluded way of looking at things, so if anyone is deluded here its you. put it this way, a year ago Gardos would have cost around the same £6mill as we paid this year and Dejerk cost £8.5mill, so according to you Dejerk was only slightly better than Gardos. why dnt you give the players a chance before you write them off as rubbish! as I say you really should read what people post before having digs at them and getting things wrong and making yourself look like a fool![/p][/quote]Good grief !!! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.... ...[/p][/quote]typical response from someone who has realised they have made a mistake and therefore made themselves look a fool! you got it wrong again Gaz, just accept it and move on![/p][/quote]Horse ..just can't be bothered to discuss saints with you anymore.. So just for you... you are 100% correct albiet totally boring and I have called absolutely everything wrong... you happy now ? Now go bore some other people and leave me alone costa gaz
  • Score: -2

12:49pm Sun 17 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

jls217 wrote:
st bevois wrote:
We may not be buying a CB but Sky Sports are saying that we have bid for Andros Townsend. Hope that's because we are in a strong position and don’t need to sell Morgan and not to facilitate and exchange plus cash. Time to play with Spurs, as they have put themselves in a “difficult position” needing to jettison so many players!!!!
Also 2 bids for JC rejected apparently.
COYR – come on the travelling faithful – let’s hear the noise!!!!! 
Does Spurs have anyone we A. Need or B. Want.

How is Townsend's medical state - he does seem to have more than his fair share of niggling injuries.

Kane as a long term strike prospect but who else?
Is JC jack Cork or Jordie Classie?
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st bevois[/bold] wrote: We may not be buying a CB but Sky Sports are saying that we have bid for Andros Townsend. Hope that's because we are in a strong position and don’t need to sell Morgan and not to facilitate and exchange plus cash. Time to play with Spurs, as they have put themselves in a “difficult position” needing to jettison so many players!!!! Also 2 bids for JC rejected apparently. COYR – come on the travelling faithful – let’s hear the noise!!!!! [/p][/quote]Does Spurs have anyone we A. Need or B. Want. How is Townsend's medical state - he does seem to have more than his fair share of niggling injuries. Kane as a long term strike prospect but who else?[/p][/quote]Is JC jack Cork or Jordie Classie? fascia123
  • Score: 1

12:52pm Sun 17 Aug 14

jls217 says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Seems the happy clappers are out in force today and any sort of criticism constructive or otherwise is not welcome.
It does lead to an unfair representation of fans views, however it's the first game of the new season enjoy your tubthumping, back slapping moment.

Heart says we could win, head says we will lose. sorry for being a realist.
No this is the way the forum always was, you just don't like it because you thought your view were popular, they weren't. As people told you many times sammynobrains and his alter egos were makin it look like there were a lot more neggies than there actually are, yet you fell for his Wumming!

I do wonder why a saints fan who comes on this site every day doesn't know that Gardos is out for 2-3 weeks with a hamstring injury?

Why should we be bothered about how many of the team started last year? We have sold some and replaced them and replaced others with better, thats football.
Oh dear horse.... As someone who loves football I'd say starting with only 3 of last years brilliant team is going to make this seasons fixture a little difficult.
You still go on about the replacements being better??
How do you know this? You have not seen them play a competitive match against premier league opposition ... In your deluded view a £5m center half is better than a £20m center half... why are you not chief scout at Real madrid.
Well done for convincing yourself that the Saints are the best team on the planet, sadly the realists amongst us know this is not really the case.
have you seen the team then Gaz? please let us know whos starting, as you obviously know! you could also, while your at it, let us know how Gardos has recovered so quickly!

I`m getting concerned about your eyes though, have you lost your glasses?
if you bothered to properly read what I said you will see that I didn't say the replacements for the players sold were `better`. what I said was we have sold some players `and replaced them` AND replaced others with better! others being players who haven't been sold, ie Forster has replaced AB in goal, I think its easy to argue that Forster is the better keeper. we have replaced Osvaldo with long, could anyone say Osvaldo is better? I could also argue that Taider is a better player than Gaston. as I haven't seen the squad play a competitive game a cant say if the new players are better than those sold or not. what I can say is you cant judge how good a player is by their transfer fee. did dejerk become twice the player he was whilst he was here? is he less than half as good as Davi Luiz? is fellani a better player than liarlanna? I think that judging a player on price before seeing them player is a very deluded way of looking at things, so if anyone is deluded here its you. put it this way, a year ago Gardos would have cost around the same £6mill as we paid this year and Dejerk cost £8.5mill, so according to you Dejerk was only slightly better than Gardos. why dnt you give the players a chance before you write them off as rubbish!
as I say you really should read what people post before having digs at them and getting things wrong and making yourself look like a fool!
Good grief !!! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ....


...
typical response from someone who has realised they have made a mistake and therefore made themselves look a fool!
you got it wrong again Gaz, just accept it and move on!
The CB we sold for 20m was purchased for a lot less than that and it was the coaching/experience and sales techniques used by this club which got 20m for him. I would say the new lad is better than Lovren simply because he's here and Lovren has joined his head. Lovren is worth nothing to us. He also wants to be here Lovren clearly didn't.
At what point in the season did Lovren jump to being worth 20m?

Your point is flawed and not valid as an argument.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Seems the happy clappers are out in force today and any sort of criticism constructive or otherwise is not welcome. It does lead to an unfair representation of fans views, however it's the first game of the new season enjoy your tubthumping, back slapping moment. Heart says we could win, head says we will lose. sorry for being a realist.[/p][/quote]No this is the way the forum always was, you just don't like it because you thought your view were popular, they weren't. As people told you many times sammynobrains and his alter egos were makin it look like there were a lot more neggies than there actually are, yet you fell for his Wumming! I do wonder why a saints fan who comes on this site every day doesn't know that Gardos is out for 2-3 weeks with a hamstring injury? Why should we be bothered about how many of the team started last year? We have sold some and replaced them and replaced others with better, thats football.[/p][/quote]Oh dear horse.... As someone who loves football I'd say starting with only 3 of last years brilliant team is going to make this seasons fixture a little difficult. You still go on about the replacements being better?? How do you know this? You have not seen them play a competitive match against premier league opposition ... In your deluded view a £5m center half is better than a £20m center half... why are you not chief scout at Real madrid. Well done for convincing yourself that the Saints are the best team on the planet, sadly the realists amongst us know this is not really the case.[/p][/quote]have you seen the team then Gaz? please let us know whos starting, as you obviously know! you could also, while your at it, let us know how Gardos has recovered so quickly! I`m getting concerned about your eyes though, have you lost your glasses? if you bothered to properly read what I said you will see that I didn't say the replacements for the players sold were `better`. what I said was we have sold some players `and replaced them` AND replaced others with better! others being players who haven't been sold, ie Forster has replaced AB in goal, I think its easy to argue that Forster is the better keeper. we have replaced Osvaldo with long, could anyone say Osvaldo is better? I could also argue that Taider is a better player than Gaston. as I haven't seen the squad play a competitive game a cant say if the new players are better than those sold or not. what I can say is you cant judge how good a player is by their transfer fee. did dejerk become twice the player he was whilst he was here? is he less than half as good as Davi Luiz? is fellani a better player than liarlanna? I think that judging a player on price before seeing them player is a very deluded way of looking at things, so if anyone is deluded here its you. put it this way, a year ago Gardos would have cost around the same £6mill as we paid this year and Dejerk cost £8.5mill, so according to you Dejerk was only slightly better than Gardos. why dnt you give the players a chance before you write them off as rubbish! as I say you really should read what people post before having digs at them and getting things wrong and making yourself look like a fool![/p][/quote]Good grief !!! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.... ...[/p][/quote]typical response from someone who has realised they have made a mistake and therefore made themselves look a fool! you got it wrong again Gaz, just accept it and move on![/p][/quote]The CB we sold for 20m was purchased for a lot less than that and it was the coaching/experience and sales techniques used by this club which got 20m for him. I would say the new lad is better than Lovren simply because he's here and Lovren has joined his head. Lovren is worth nothing to us. He also wants to be here Lovren clearly didn't. At what point in the season did Lovren jump to being worth 20m? Your point is flawed and not valid as an argument. jls217
  • Score: 1

12:52pm Sun 17 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

costa gaz wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Seems the happy clappers are out in force today and any sort of criticism constructive or otherwise is not welcome.
It does lead to an unfair representation of fans views, however it's the first game of the new season enjoy your tubthumping, back slapping moment.

Heart says we could win, head says we will lose. sorry for being a realist.
No this is the way the forum always was, you just don't like it because you thought your view were popular, they weren't. As people told you many times sammynobrains and his alter egos were makin it look like there were a lot more neggies than there actually are, yet you fell for his Wumming!

I do wonder why a saints fan who comes on this site every day doesn't know that Gardos is out for 2-3 weeks with a hamstring injury?

Why should we be bothered about how many of the team started last year? We have sold some and replaced them and replaced others with better, thats football.
Oh dear horse.... As someone who loves football I'd say starting with only 3 of last years brilliant team is going to make this seasons fixture a little difficult.
You still go on about the replacements being better??
How do you know this? You have not seen them play a competitive match against premier league opposition ... In your deluded view a £5m center half is better than a £20m center half... why are you not chief scout at Real madrid.
Well done for convincing yourself that the Saints are the best team on the planet, sadly the realists amongst us know this is not really the case.
have you seen the team then Gaz? please let us know whos starting, as you obviously know! you could also, while your at it, let us know how Gardos has recovered so quickly!

I`m getting concerned about your eyes though, have you lost your glasses?
if you bothered to properly read what I said you will see that I didn't say the replacements for the players sold were `better`. what I said was we have sold some players `and replaced them` AND replaced others with better! others being players who haven't been sold, ie Forster has replaced AB in goal, I think its easy to argue that Forster is the better keeper. we have replaced Osvaldo with long, could anyone say Osvaldo is better? I could also argue that Taider is a better player than Gaston. as I haven't seen the squad play a competitive game a cant say if the new players are better than those sold or not. what I can say is you cant judge how good a player is by their transfer fee. did dejerk become twice the player he was whilst he was here? is he less than half as good as Davi Luiz? is fellani a better player than liarlanna? I think that judging a player on price before seeing them player is a very deluded way of looking at things, so if anyone is deluded here its you. put it this way, a year ago Gardos would have cost around the same £6mill as we paid this year and Dejerk cost £8.5mill, so according to you Dejerk was only slightly better than Gardos. why dnt you give the players a chance before you write them off as rubbish!
as I say you really should read what people post before having digs at them and getting things wrong and making yourself look like a fool!
Good grief !!! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ....



...
typical response from someone who has realised they have made a mistake and therefore made themselves look a fool!
you got it wrong again Gaz, just accept it and move on!
Horse ..just can't be bothered to discuss saints with you anymore..

So just for you... you are 100% correct albiet totally boring and I have called absolutely everything wrong... you happy now ?

Now go bore some other people and leave me alone
Now now let's all unite and get behind Saints it nearly kick off time, not a bad side out, Spiders playing.

We can all fall out again later, ha ha.

Come on you Saints.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Seems the happy clappers are out in force today and any sort of criticism constructive or otherwise is not welcome. It does lead to an unfair representation of fans views, however it's the first game of the new season enjoy your tubthumping, back slapping moment. Heart says we could win, head says we will lose. sorry for being a realist.[/p][/quote]No this is the way the forum always was, you just don't like it because you thought your view were popular, they weren't. As people told you many times sammynobrains and his alter egos were makin it look like there were a lot more neggies than there actually are, yet you fell for his Wumming! I do wonder why a saints fan who comes on this site every day doesn't know that Gardos is out for 2-3 weeks with a hamstring injury? Why should we be bothered about how many of the team started last year? We have sold some and replaced them and replaced others with better, thats football.[/p][/quote]Oh dear horse.... As someone who loves football I'd say starting with only 3 of last years brilliant team is going to make this seasons fixture a little difficult. You still go on about the replacements being better?? How do you know this? You have not seen them play a competitive match against premier league opposition ... In your deluded view a £5m center half is better than a £20m center half... why are you not chief scout at Real madrid. Well done for convincing yourself that the Saints are the best team on the planet, sadly the realists amongst us know this is not really the case.[/p][/quote]have you seen the team then Gaz? please let us know whos starting, as you obviously know! you could also, while your at it, let us know how Gardos has recovered so quickly! I`m getting concerned about your eyes though, have you lost your glasses? if you bothered to properly read what I said you will see that I didn't say the replacements for the players sold were `better`. what I said was we have sold some players `and replaced them` AND replaced others with better! others being players who haven't been sold, ie Forster has replaced AB in goal, I think its easy to argue that Forster is the better keeper. we have replaced Osvaldo with long, could anyone say Osvaldo is better? I could also argue that Taider is a better player than Gaston. as I haven't seen the squad play a competitive game a cant say if the new players are better than those sold or not. what I can say is you cant judge how good a player is by their transfer fee. did dejerk become twice the player he was whilst he was here? is he less than half as good as Davi Luiz? is fellani a better player than liarlanna? I think that judging a player on price before seeing them player is a very deluded way of looking at things, so if anyone is deluded here its you. put it this way, a year ago Gardos would have cost around the same £6mill as we paid this year and Dejerk cost £8.5mill, so according to you Dejerk was only slightly better than Gardos. why dnt you give the players a chance before you write them off as rubbish! as I say you really should read what people post before having digs at them and getting things wrong and making yourself look like a fool![/p][/quote]Good grief !!! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.... ...[/p][/quote]typical response from someone who has realised they have made a mistake and therefore made themselves look a fool! you got it wrong again Gaz, just accept it and move on![/p][/quote]Horse ..just can't be bothered to discuss saints with you anymore.. So just for you... you are 100% correct albiet totally boring and I have called absolutely everything wrong... you happy now ? Now go bore some other people and leave me alone[/p][/quote]Now now let's all unite and get behind Saints it nearly kick off time, not a bad side out, Spiders playing. We can all fall out again later, ha ha. Come on you Saints. fascia123
  • Score: 2

12:57pm Sun 17 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Blue means Success wrote:
one in the crowd wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Brendan Rogers saying some very inflammatory things - I really want to ram them down his throat!!!!!!
Brendan Rodgers Did not say anything inflammatory, he just stated facts.


It's just business:
Why Rodgers has no sympathy for Southampton plight Reds boss has been on other side of transfer window

So if the Liverpool FC boss received little pity for the agonising manner in which Liverpool fell short of winning the championship last season, he can hardly be expected to lose any sleep over the plight of his Premier League rivals.
It was merely business as Rodgers continually plundered Southampton to replenish his Anfield squad during the summer transfer window.
The Saints’ reward for being the top-flight’s surprise package last season is having their squad torn apart following the departure of manager Mauricio Pochettino to Tottenham Hotspur.
Adam Lallana, Rickie Lambert and, most contentiously, Dejan Lovren all exchanged St Mary’s for Anfield, while Luke Shaw and Calum Chambers have also sought pastures new with Morgan Schneiderlin and Jay Rodriguez slated to follow suit.
The quirk of the fixture list means Lovren and Lambert will come up against their former club when Liverpool bring their Premier League campaign at home this afternoon.
But when asked if he had any sympathy for Southampton’s plight, Rodgers replies: “No, not at all.
“You have the choice as a club. You don’t have to sell.
“Maybe Southampton’s objectives have changed. They were on course, they were looking to be a Champions League club I believe. But they obviously wanted to change.
“We have taken three players but Arsenal have taken a player, Man United have taken one. There might be one or two others.
“That’s football. That’s the way it works.
“We were after a certain type of player that fits the profile and the mould of the way we play.
“They played in a similar mould to us, so the players understand the pressing, the intensity and the possession. So, I don’t have sympathy, no.”
Critics of the Financial Fair Play initiative argue Southampton’s plight is an example of how the ruling simply maintains the status quo and doesn’t allow smaller clubs to grow.
That, though, cuts no ice with Rodgers, who has experienced the other side of football’s imbalance when attempting to fend off potential suitors for his players while at Swansea City.
“Football has never changed,” he says. “It has always been like that.
“Listen, don’t get me wrong, Southampton are a great club. But so was Swansea.
“Swansea have produced a young player in Ben Davies and he’s now gone to Tottenham.
“Players will want to look to compete at the highest possible level they have. That’s the nature of it.
“Luke Shaw has gone to what he thinks is a bigger club. The guys have come here because of the status of Liverpool and Champions League football. It’s hard to deny players that. And that will always be the case.
“Lots of chairmen and executive understand that. When a situation comes along like this, all they can do is maximise what they can get for the talent and look to invest again. As a manager I have been in both situations.
“When I was at Swansea, there were a number of clubs in the Premier League who wanted to take some of our players. I was able to convince some to stay.
“As a manager you know that is going to happen.”
With Alberto Moreno having finally completed his protracted transfer, Rodgers has now brought in eight players during the summer with a striker still on his shopping list given Luis Suarez’s exit.
Comparisons have been made between the manner in which Tottenham Hotspur splashed the cash having lost Gareth Bale last year.
But the Reds boss says: “We’ve brought in a lot of players but it’s not as though we are putting all of them into the team straight away.
“We still have a core. It’s not a new team, it’s an evolving team.
“It’s a totally different scenario (to Tottenham). We are clear on our identity and the way we want to play. We’ve added exciting talent to that.”
While many observers believe Liverpool will do well to replicate last season’s top-four finish, Rodgers claims his side are better equipped to again challenge for the championship.
And the Reds boss insists his focus has purely been on the future rather than dwelling on how close his side came to ending a title drought that stretches back to 1990.
“I’ll be totally honest, I’ve hardly given it a minute’s thought,” says Rodgers. “I never thought about what might have been. Nobody had to pick me up.
“There was no expectancy on us, we weren’t expected to be in the top four and we aren’t even expected to be this season.
“People might say last season was our best chance but I think this season is our best chance as we have more belief, and we are stronger as a squad.
“Our aim is to be in the top four. Once you nail that fourth position, you can look beyond that.”
Do any Soton fans have sympathy for Liverpool losing Jaws? I bet they don't. Soton could have tried to hold onto their players, but the board couldn't take their eyes off the money on offer.

The board (and now the HC fans) keep on about FFP - but that doesn't properly kick in till 2018. They have hoodwinked their fans.
Go away and find a member of your disjointed family to breed with Sammy or whatever you're calling yourself nowadays.
[quote][p][bold]Blue means Success[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Brendan Rogers saying some very inflammatory things - I really want to ram them down his throat!!!!!![/p][/quote]Brendan Rodgers Did not say anything inflammatory, he just stated facts. It's just business: Why Rodgers has no sympathy for Southampton plight Reds boss has been on other side of transfer window So if the Liverpool FC boss received little pity for the agonising manner in which Liverpool fell short of winning the championship last season, he can hardly be expected to lose any sleep over the plight of his Premier League rivals. It was merely business as Rodgers continually plundered Southampton to replenish his Anfield squad during the summer transfer window. The Saints’ reward for being the top-flight’s surprise package last season is having their squad torn apart following the departure of manager Mauricio Pochettino to Tottenham Hotspur. Adam Lallana, Rickie Lambert and, most contentiously, Dejan Lovren all exchanged St Mary’s for Anfield, while Luke Shaw and Calum Chambers have also sought pastures new with Morgan Schneiderlin and Jay Rodriguez slated to follow suit. The quirk of the fixture list means Lovren and Lambert will come up against their former club when Liverpool bring their Premier League campaign at home this afternoon. But when asked if he had any sympathy for Southampton’s plight, Rodgers replies: “No, not at all. “You have the choice as a club. You don’t have to sell. “Maybe Southampton’s objectives have changed. They were on course, they were looking to be a Champions League club I believe. But they obviously wanted to change. “We have taken three players but Arsenal have taken a player, Man United have taken one. There might be one or two others. “That’s football. That’s the way it works. “We were after a certain type of player that fits the profile and the mould of the way we play. “They played in a similar mould to us, so the players understand the pressing, the intensity and the possession. So, I don’t have sympathy, no.” Critics of the Financial Fair Play initiative argue Southampton’s plight is an example of how the ruling simply maintains the status quo and doesn’t allow smaller clubs to grow. That, though, cuts no ice with Rodgers, who has experienced the other side of football’s imbalance when attempting to fend off potential suitors for his players while at Swansea City. “Football has never changed,” he says. “It has always been like that. “Listen, don’t get me wrong, Southampton are a great club. But so was Swansea. “Swansea have produced a young player in Ben Davies and he’s now gone to Tottenham. “Players will want to look to compete at the highest possible level they have. That’s the nature of it. “Luke Shaw has gone to what he thinks is a bigger club. The guys have come here because of the status of Liverpool and Champions League football. It’s hard to deny players that. And that will always be the case. “Lots of chairmen and executive understand that. When a situation comes along like this, all they can do is maximise what they can get for the talent and look to invest again. As a manager I have been in both situations. “When I was at Swansea, there were a number of clubs in the Premier League who wanted to take some of our players. I was able to convince some to stay. “As a manager you know that is going to happen.” With Alberto Moreno having finally completed his protracted transfer, Rodgers has now brought in eight players during the summer with a striker still on his shopping list given Luis Suarez’s exit. Comparisons have been made between the manner in which Tottenham Hotspur splashed the cash having lost Gareth Bale last year. But the Reds boss says: “We’ve brought in a lot of players but it’s not as though we are putting all of them into the team straight away. “We still have a core. It’s not a new team, it’s an evolving team. “It’s a totally different scenario (to Tottenham). We are clear on our identity and the way we want to play. We’ve added exciting talent to that.” While many observers believe Liverpool will do well to replicate last season’s top-four finish, Rodgers claims his side are better equipped to again challenge for the championship. And the Reds boss insists his focus has purely been on the future rather than dwelling on how close his side came to ending a title drought that stretches back to 1990. “I’ll be totally honest, I’ve hardly given it a minute’s thought,” says Rodgers. “I never thought about what might have been. Nobody had to pick me up. “There was no expectancy on us, we weren’t expected to be in the top four and we aren’t even expected to be this season. “People might say last season was our best chance but I think this season is our best chance as we have more belief, and we are stronger as a squad. “Our aim is to be in the top four. Once you nail that fourth position, you can look beyond that.”[/p][/quote]Do any Soton fans have sympathy for Liverpool losing Jaws? I bet they don't. Soton could have tried to hold onto their players, but the board couldn't take their eyes off the money on offer. The board (and now the HC fans) keep on about FFP - but that doesn't properly kick in till 2018. They have hoodwinked their fans.[/p][/quote]Go away and find a member of your disjointed family to breed with Sammy or whatever you're calling yourself nowadays. jls217
  • Score: -2

12:57pm Sun 17 Aug 14

st bevois says...

fascia123 wrote:
jls217 wrote:
st bevois wrote:
We may not be buying a CB but Sky Sports are saying that we have bid for Andros Townsend. Hope that's because we are in a strong position and don’t need to sell Morgan and not to facilitate and exchange plus cash. Time to play with Spurs, as they have put themselves in a “difficult position” needing to jettison so many players!!!!
Also 2 bids for JC rejected apparently.
COYR – come on the travelling faithful – let’s hear the noise!!!!! 
Does Spurs have anyone we A. Need or B. Want.

How is Townsend's medical state - he does seem to have more than his fair share of niggling injuries.

Kane as a long term strike prospect but who else?
Is JC jack Cork or Jordie Classie?
Jack Cork - both from Swansea apparently - nothing substantial from Palace either.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st bevois[/bold] wrote: We may not be buying a CB but Sky Sports are saying that we have bid for Andros Townsend. Hope that's because we are in a strong position and don’t need to sell Morgan and not to facilitate and exchange plus cash. Time to play with Spurs, as they have put themselves in a “difficult position” needing to jettison so many players!!!! Also 2 bids for JC rejected apparently. COYR – come on the travelling faithful – let’s hear the noise!!!!! [/p][/quote]Does Spurs have anyone we A. Need or B. Want. How is Townsend's medical state - he does seem to have more than his fair share of niggling injuries. Kane as a long term strike prospect but who else?[/p][/quote]Is JC jack Cork or Jordie Classie?[/p][/quote]Jack Cork - both from Swansea apparently - nothing substantial from Palace either. st bevois
  • Score: 0

12:59pm Sun 17 Aug 14

miltonarcher says...

I see Rogers has claimed we didn't need to sell any players. He suggested we were on the brink of th CL.

I can see a tough season ahead for us, however, today's result not a marker for the season. I think we will finish around 14th, gutted we will be looking over our shoulder instead of the top 6. COYR
I see Rogers has claimed we didn't need to sell any players. He suggested we were on the brink of th CL. I can see a tough season ahead for us, however, today's result not a marker for the season. I think we will finish around 14th, gutted we will be looking over our shoulder instead of the top 6. COYR miltonarcher
  • Score: -2

1:01pm Sun 17 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

st bevois wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
jls217 wrote:
st bevois wrote:
We may not be buying a CB but Sky Sports are saying that we have bid for Andros Townsend. Hope that's because we are in a strong position and don’t need to sell Morgan and not to facilitate and exchange plus cash. Time to play with Spurs, as they have put themselves in a “difficult position” needing to jettison so many players!!!!
Also 2 bids for JC rejected apparently.
COYR – come on the travelling faithful – let’s hear the noise!!!!! 
Does Spurs have anyone we A. Need or B. Want.

How is Townsend's medical state - he does seem to have more than his fair share of niggling injuries.

Kane as a long term strike prospect but who else?
Is JC jack Cork or Jordie Classie?
Jack Cork - both from Swansea apparently - nothing substantial from Palace either.
Thank you, although we have a lot of midfielders would like us to keep Cork.
[quote][p][bold]st bevois[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st bevois[/bold] wrote: We may not be buying a CB but Sky Sports are saying that we have bid for Andros Townsend. Hope that's because we are in a strong position and don’t need to sell Morgan and not to facilitate and exchange plus cash. Time to play with Spurs, as they have put themselves in a “difficult position” needing to jettison so many players!!!! Also 2 bids for JC rejected apparently. COYR – come on the travelling faithful – let’s hear the noise!!!!! [/p][/quote]Does Spurs have anyone we A. Need or B. Want. How is Townsend's medical state - he does seem to have more than his fair share of niggling injuries. Kane as a long term strike prospect but who else?[/p][/quote]Is JC jack Cork or Jordie Classie?[/p][/quote]Jack Cork - both from Swansea apparently - nothing substantial from Palace either.[/p][/quote]Thank you, although we have a lot of midfielders would like us to keep Cork. fascia123
  • Score: 0

1:09pm Sun 17 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Now you mention it I think he played in our neck of the woods for one of the Bristol clubs.
That's the fella - he only scored the one in three seasons I think - clearly I have low expectations, so this afternoon should be fine for me whatever happens! :o)
I think today has come 3/4 games early so I won't judge saints on how today goes, don't get me wrong I would love a draw or a win but think it will be a tall order.

DOnt like to say a certain player is not good enough so I will say I still think even with a good squad shaping up we need a CB and a quick winger like Pahars or who was the Portuguese guy who played on the wing when Strachan was manager?
Fabrice Fernandes?

Agree with all points. Zaha would be a quality signing I think and would solve the wing problem.
Yes and from what my sons are saying he will be one of the utd players to move on, he works hard for the team as well, got a few rough edges but yes I wouldn't mind him in the stripes, that's another plus maybe it because I am old but the team looked strong and fit in the new kit last Saturday.
According to the papers he is being made to train away from the Utd squad with the likes of Nani etc so he's up for grabs and he bullied Fonte last season when he came on for Fonte at SMS. I think Stoke made a good loan signing in Victor Moses and I think we've missed out on a good signing there.
Zaha could be worth a punt - fast skillful and direct. He's also had his chance at the real big time and it has blown up in his face so he may be a little more humble and grateful for the chances Saints could present him with.
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: Now you mention it I think he played in our neck of the woods for one of the Bristol clubs.[/p][/quote]That's the fella - he only scored the one in three seasons I think - clearly I have low expectations, so this afternoon should be fine for me whatever happens! :o)[/p][/quote]I think today has come 3/4 games early so I won't judge saints on how today goes, don't get me wrong I would love a draw or a win but think it will be a tall order. DOnt like to say a certain player is not good enough so I will say I still think even with a good squad shaping up we need a CB and a quick winger like Pahars or who was the Portuguese guy who played on the wing when Strachan was manager?[/p][/quote]Fabrice Fernandes? Agree with all points. Zaha would be a quality signing I think and would solve the wing problem.[/p][/quote]Yes and from what my sons are saying he will be one of the utd players to move on, he works hard for the team as well, got a few rough edges but yes I wouldn't mind him in the stripes, that's another plus maybe it because I am old but the team looked strong and fit in the new kit last Saturday.[/p][/quote]According to the papers he is being made to train away from the Utd squad with the likes of Nani etc so he's up for grabs and he bullied Fonte last season when he came on for Fonte at SMS. I think Stoke made a good loan signing in Victor Moses and I think we've missed out on a good signing there.[/p][/quote]Zaha could be worth a punt - fast skillful and direct. He's also had his chance at the real big time and it has blown up in his face so he may be a little more humble and grateful for the chances Saints could present him with. jls217
  • Score: 0

1:12pm Sun 17 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

jls217 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Now you mention it I think he played in our neck of the woods for one of the Bristol clubs.
That's the fella - he only scored the one in three seasons I think - clearly I have low expectations, so this afternoon should be fine for me whatever happens! :o)
I think today has come 3/4 games early so I won't judge saints on how today goes, don't get me wrong I would love a draw or a win but think it will be a tall order.

DOnt like to say a certain player is not good enough so I will say I still think even with a good squad shaping up we need a CB and a quick winger like Pahars or who was the Portuguese guy who played on the wing when Strachan was manager?
Fabrice Fernandes?

Agree with all points. Zaha would be a quality signing I think and would solve the wing problem.
Yes and from what my sons are saying he will be one of the utd players to move on, he works hard for the team as well, got a few rough edges but yes I wouldn't mind him in the stripes, that's another plus maybe it because I am old but the team looked strong and fit in the new kit last Saturday.
According to the papers he is being made to train away from the Utd squad with the likes of Nani etc so he's up for grabs and he bullied Fonte last season when he came on for Fonte at SMS. I think Stoke made a good loan signing in Victor Moses and I think we've missed out on a good signing there.
Zaha could be worth a punt - fast skillful and direct. He's also had his chance at the real big time and it has blown up in his face so he may be a little more humble and grateful for the chances Saints could present him with.
Good shout, Ferguson obviously could see something in him would be a good wide option.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: Now you mention it I think he played in our neck of the woods for one of the Bristol clubs.[/p][/quote]That's the fella - he only scored the one in three seasons I think - clearly I have low expectations, so this afternoon should be fine for me whatever happens! :o)[/p][/quote]I think today has come 3/4 games early so I won't judge saints on how today goes, don't get me wrong I would love a draw or a win but think it will be a tall order. DOnt like to say a certain player is not good enough so I will say I still think even with a good squad shaping up we need a CB and a quick winger like Pahars or who was the Portuguese guy who played on the wing when Strachan was manager?[/p][/quote]Fabrice Fernandes? Agree with all points. Zaha would be a quality signing I think and would solve the wing problem.[/p][/quote]Yes and from what my sons are saying he will be one of the utd players to move on, he works hard for the team as well, got a few rough edges but yes I wouldn't mind him in the stripes, that's another plus maybe it because I am old but the team looked strong and fit in the new kit last Saturday.[/p][/quote]According to the papers he is being made to train away from the Utd squad with the likes of Nani etc so he's up for grabs and he bullied Fonte last season when he came on for Fonte at SMS. I think Stoke made a good loan signing in Victor Moses and I think we've missed out on a good signing there.[/p][/quote]Zaha could be worth a punt - fast skillful and direct. He's also had his chance at the real big time and it has blown up in his face so he may be a little more humble and grateful for the chances Saints could present him with.[/p][/quote]Good shout, Ferguson obviously could see something in him would be a good wide option. fascia123
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4:50pm Sun 17 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Accordig to Sky we've just tabled a 10m bid for Townsend.
Accordig to Sky we've just tabled a 10m bid for Townsend. jls217
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6:39pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Clever Dick says...

one in the crowd wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Brendan Rogers saying some very inflammatory things - I really want to ram them down his throat!!!!!!
Brendan Rodgers Did not say anything inflammatory, he just stated facts.


It's just business:
Why Rodgers has no sympathy for Southampton plight Reds boss has been on other side of transfer window

So if the Liverpool FC boss received little pity for the agonising manner in which Liverpool fell short of winning the championship last season, he can hardly be expected to lose any sleep over the plight of his Premier League rivals.
It was merely business as Rodgers continually plundered Southampton to replenish his Anfield squad during the summer transfer window.
The Saints’ reward for being the top-flight’s surprise package last season is having their squad torn apart following the departure of manager Mauricio Pochettino to Tottenham Hotspur.
Adam Lallana, Rickie Lambert and, most contentiously, Dejan Lovren all exchanged St Mary’s for Anfield, while Luke Shaw and Calum Chambers have also sought pastures new with Morgan Schneiderlin and Jay Rodriguez slated to follow suit.
The quirk of the fixture list means Lovren and Lambert will come up against their former club when Liverpool bring their Premier League campaign at home this afternoon.
But when asked if he had any sympathy for Southampton’s plight, Rodgers replies: “No, not at all.
“You have the choice as a club. You don’t have to sell.
“Maybe Southampton’s objectives have changed. They were on course, they were looking to be a Champions League club I believe. But they obviously wanted to change.
“We have taken three players but Arsenal have taken a player, Man United have taken one. There might be one or two others.
“That’s football. That’s the way it works.
“We were after a certain type of player that fits the profile and the mould of the way we play.
“They played in a similar mould to us, so the players understand the pressing, the intensity and the possession. So, I don’t have sympathy, no.”
Critics of the Financial Fair Play initiative argue Southampton’s plight is an example of how the ruling simply maintains the status quo and doesn’t allow smaller clubs to grow.
That, though, cuts no ice with Rodgers, who has experienced the other side of football’s imbalance when attempting to fend off potential suitors for his players while at Swansea City.
“Football has never changed,” he says. “It has always been like that.
“Listen, don’t get me wrong, Southampton are a great club. But so was Swansea.
“Swansea have produced a young player in Ben Davies and he’s now gone to Tottenham.
“Players will want to look to compete at the highest possible level they have. That’s the nature of it.
“Luke Shaw has gone to what he thinks is a bigger club. The guys have come here because of the status of Liverpool and Champions League football. It’s hard to deny players that. And that will always be the case.
“Lots of chairmen and executive understand that. When a situation comes along like this, all they can do is maximise what they can get for the talent and look to invest again. As a manager I have been in both situations.
“When I was at Swansea, there were a number of clubs in the Premier League who wanted to take some of our players. I was able to convince some to stay.
“As a manager you know that is going to happen.”
With Alberto Moreno having finally completed his protracted transfer, Rodgers has now brought in eight players during the summer with a striker still on his shopping list given Luis Suarez’s exit.
Comparisons have been made between the manner in which Tottenham Hotspur splashed the cash having lost Gareth Bale last year.
But the Reds boss says: “We’ve brought in a lot of players but it’s not as though we are putting all of them into the team straight away.
“We still have a core. It’s not a new team, it’s an evolving team.
“It’s a totally different scenario (to Tottenham). We are clear on our identity and the way we want to play. We’ve added exciting talent to that.”
While many observers believe Liverpool will do well to replicate last season’s top-four finish, Rodgers claims his side are better equipped to again challenge for the championship.
And the Reds boss insists his focus has purely been on the future rather than dwelling on how close his side came to ending a title drought that stretches back to 1990.
“I’ll be totally honest, I’ve hardly given it a minute’s thought,” says Rodgers. “I never thought about what might have been. Nobody had to pick me up.
“There was no expectancy on us, we weren’t expected to be in the top four and we aren’t even expected to be this season.
“People might say last season was our best chance but I think this season is our best chance as we have more belief, and we are stronger as a squad.
“Our aim is to be in the top four. Once you nail that fourth position, you can look beyond that.”
This predictive text can be very annoying can't it. You appear to have written that Skiverpool failed to win the championship in agonising fashion. Don' t worry though we have all worked out that it meant to read that they failed to win the championship in AMUSING fashion.
[quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Brendan Rogers saying some very inflammatory things - I really want to ram them down his throat!!!!!![/p][/quote]Brendan Rodgers Did not say anything inflammatory, he just stated facts. It's just business: Why Rodgers has no sympathy for Southampton plight Reds boss has been on other side of transfer window So if the Liverpool FC boss received little pity for the agonising manner in which Liverpool fell short of winning the championship last season, he can hardly be expected to lose any sleep over the plight of his Premier League rivals. It was merely business as Rodgers continually plundered Southampton to replenish his Anfield squad during the summer transfer window. The Saints’ reward for being the top-flight’s surprise package last season is having their squad torn apart following the departure of manager Mauricio Pochettino to Tottenham Hotspur. Adam Lallana, Rickie Lambert and, most contentiously, Dejan Lovren all exchanged St Mary’s for Anfield, while Luke Shaw and Calum Chambers have also sought pastures new with Morgan Schneiderlin and Jay Rodriguez slated to follow suit. The quirk of the fixture list means Lovren and Lambert will come up against their former club when Liverpool bring their Premier League campaign at home this afternoon. But when asked if he had any sympathy for Southampton’s plight, Rodgers replies: “No, not at all. “You have the choice as a club. You don’t have to sell. “Maybe Southampton’s objectives have changed. They were on course, they were looking to be a Champions League club I believe. But they obviously wanted to change. “We have taken three players but Arsenal have taken a player, Man United have taken one. There might be one or two others. “That’s football. That’s the way it works. “We were after a certain type of player that fits the profile and the mould of the way we play. “They played in a similar mould to us, so the players understand the pressing, the intensity and the possession. So, I don’t have sympathy, no.” Critics of the Financial Fair Play initiative argue Southampton’s plight is an example of how the ruling simply maintains the status quo and doesn’t allow smaller clubs to grow. That, though, cuts no ice with Rodgers, who has experienced the other side of football’s imbalance when attempting to fend off potential suitors for his players while at Swansea City. “Football has never changed,” he says. “It has always been like that. “Listen, don’t get me wrong, Southampton are a great club. But so was Swansea. “Swansea have produced a young player in Ben Davies and he’s now gone to Tottenham. “Players will want to look to compete at the highest possible level they have. That’s the nature of it. “Luke Shaw has gone to what he thinks is a bigger club. The guys have come here because of the status of Liverpool and Champions League football. It’s hard to deny players that. And that will always be the case. “Lots of chairmen and executive understand that. When a situation comes along like this, all they can do is maximise what they can get for the talent and look to invest again. As a manager I have been in both situations. “When I was at Swansea, there were a number of clubs in the Premier League who wanted to take some of our players. I was able to convince some to stay. “As a manager you know that is going to happen.” With Alberto Moreno having finally completed his protracted transfer, Rodgers has now brought in eight players during the summer with a striker still on his shopping list given Luis Suarez’s exit. Comparisons have been made between the manner in which Tottenham Hotspur splashed the cash having lost Gareth Bale last year. But the Reds boss says: “We’ve brought in a lot of players but it’s not as though we are putting all of them into the team straight away. “We still have a core. It’s not a new team, it’s an evolving team. “It’s a totally different scenario (to Tottenham). We are clear on our identity and the way we want to play. We’ve added exciting talent to that.” While many observers believe Liverpool will do well to replicate last season’s top-four finish, Rodgers claims his side are better equipped to again challenge for the championship. And the Reds boss insists his focus has purely been on the future rather than dwelling on how close his side came to ending a title drought that stretches back to 1990. “I’ll be totally honest, I’ve hardly given it a minute’s thought,” says Rodgers. “I never thought about what might have been. Nobody had to pick me up. “There was no expectancy on us, we weren’t expected to be in the top four and we aren’t even expected to be this season. “People might say last season was our best chance but I think this season is our best chance as we have more belief, and we are stronger as a squad. “Our aim is to be in the top four. Once you nail that fourth position, you can look beyond that.”[/p][/quote]This predictive text can be very annoying can't it. You appear to have written that Skiverpool failed to win the championship in agonising fashion. Don' t worry though we have all worked out that it meant to read that they failed to win the championship in AMUSING fashion. Clever Dick
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6:57pm Sun 17 Aug 14

hedge end bob says...

Have faith, we were very unlucky today we should of brought at least a point home today. THE STRIPES ARE BACK.
COYR.
Have faith, we were very unlucky today we should of brought at least a point home today. THE STRIPES ARE BACK. COYR. hedge end bob
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