Saints agree £12.5m fee for Shane Long

Shane Long

Shane Long

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Shane Long is on course to become the second most expensive signing in Saints’ history after Hull City accepted a £12.5m offer for the striker.

The 27-year-old Republic of Ireland forward will discuss personal terms before undergoing a medical at St Mary’s, with the club optimistic of tying up his signing quickly.

Only Dani Osvaldo has cost the club more, with the Italian requiring an initial £12.9m to bring him in from Roma last summer.

Saints boss Ronald Koeman is hoping that the captures of Long and centre half Florin Gardos, who is also expected to join this week, will leave Saints ready for the new season, which kicks-off at Liverpool on Sunday.

Saints had considered a move for Long in January, after the striker was identified by the club’s scouting and recruitment department as a somebody who would fit neatly into the team. A move has been swiftly made now after Koeman asked for another forward to be signed.

The potential size of the reported fee would surprise many people, though, especially as Long has never reached double figures in a single Premier League season.

However, with the new campaign about to get underway, Saints are keen for a quick resolution to any deal and would know that Hull would likely want a significant profit on the £6m they paid for Long in January in order to sell so quickly.

With plenty of ammunition in the transfer budget as well, following a summer that has featured some big-money departures, the club can undoubtedly afford to pay a premium.

Long, who has 47 caps and 11 goals for the Republic of Ireland, has only been at Hull since January, when he moved to the club from West Brom.

In his short spell with the Tigers, he made 15 Premier League appearances and scored four times.

Prior to that, Long had been at West Brom since August 2011, after signing from Reading for £6.5m.

He netted 19 top-flight goals in 60 starts and 21 substitute appearances for the Baggies.

Long had previously enjoyed six good years with the Royals, who picked him up from Cork City, scoring 54 times in 203 appearances across all competitions.

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10:41am Wed 13 Aug 14

Ozmosis says...

It seems a heavy price tag but, knowing that we have money due to player sales, clubs were always going to hold us to ransom.
It seems a heavy price tag but, knowing that we have money due to player sales, clubs were always going to hold us to ransom. Ozmosis
  • Score: 45

10:41am Wed 13 Aug 14

Ozmosis says...

Oh, and welcome to the club. We hope you will enjoy playing for us and much as we enjoy supporting you.
Oh, and welcome to the club. We hope you will enjoy playing for us and much as we enjoy supporting you. Ozmosis
  • Score: 81

10:45am Wed 13 Aug 14

tharg64 says...

£12.5m sees a bit overpriced, but as Ozmosis says - clubs are going to hold us to ransom at this late stage esp knowing how much we've banked recently.

That being said a welcome addition to the recent signings. Let's hope he does well.

COYR's
£12.5m sees a bit overpriced, but as Ozmosis says - clubs are going to hold us to ransom at this late stage esp knowing how much we've banked recently. That being said a welcome addition to the recent signings. Let's hope he does well. COYR's tharg64
  • Score: 51

10:46am Wed 13 Aug 14

Saint Clements says...

I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets."

Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?
I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets." Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us? Saint Clements
  • Score: -62

10:46am Wed 13 Aug 14

saintbobby says...

Another signing!

"Ours is not to reason why etc. etc"

Shane we all wish you the very best of luck. Sure you will get some very good support. Just bang 'em in!

Red and white is better than that bumble bee stuff as you will find out.
Another signing! "Ours is not to reason why etc. etc" Shane we all wish you the very best of luck. Sure you will get some very good support. Just bang 'em in! Red and white is better than that bumble bee stuff as you will find out. saintbobby
  • Score: 34

10:47am Wed 13 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

I think he exactly what Pele needs and will play of him brilliantly .........

I was really gutted we didn't go for him in January but we now know with the debts from previous deals and MoPo's agenda being rather different it makes sense .............

A lot of money maybe but half as good as LaLa (who was quality) , no way !
I think he exactly what Pele needs and will play of him brilliantly ......... I was really gutted we didn't go for him in January but we now know with the debts from previous deals and MoPo's agenda being rather different it makes sense ............. A lot of money maybe but half as good as LaLa (who was quality) , no way ! Buddy SFC
  • Score: 21

10:50am Wed 13 Aug 14

Folkestone Saint says...

Never liked him as he is a total wind-up merchant and a bit of a diver, but then maybe we were too nice last season and thats why we "only" finished 8th
Never liked him as he is a total wind-up merchant and a bit of a diver, but then maybe we were too nice last season and thats why we "only" finished 8th Folkestone Saint
  • Score: 14

10:53am Wed 13 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

Saint Clements wrote:
I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets."

Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?
Hmmmmmmmmm I wonder who the Muppet is , Your young copywriter or Ronald Koeman ?
[quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets." Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?[/p][/quote]Hmmmmmmmmm I wonder who the Muppet is , Your young copywriter or Ronald Koeman ? Buddy SFC
  • Score: 43

10:53am Wed 13 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

Saint Clements wrote:
I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets."

Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?
Hmmmmmmmmm I wonder who the Muppet is , Your young copywriter or Ronald Koeman ?
[quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets." Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?[/p][/quote]Hmmmmmmmmm I wonder who the Muppet is , Your young copywriter or Ronald Koeman ? Buddy SFC
  • Score: 11

10:53am Wed 13 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

Saint Clements wrote:
I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets."

Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?
Hmmmmmmmmm I wonder who the Muppet is , Your young copywriter or Ronald Koeman ?
[quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets." Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?[/p][/quote]Hmmmmmmmmm I wonder who the Muppet is , Your young copywriter or Ronald Koeman ? Buddy SFC
  • Score: 4

10:53am Wed 13 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

Saint Clements wrote:
I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets."

Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?
Hmmmmmmmmm I wonder who the Muppet is , Your young copywriter or Ronald Koeman ?
[quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets." Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?[/p][/quote]Hmmmmmmmmm I wonder who the Muppet is , Your young copywriter or Ronald Koeman ? Buddy SFC
  • Score: 6

10:54am Wed 13 Aug 14

Winman says...

I have been an admirer of Shane Long - his skills and his attitude as a person - for some time and reckon he is really going to add to what we already have. He is capable, in my view, of not only creating chances out of nothing but will also take them too. I think this is excellent news for our team and the way we play.
The glass is half full!
I have been an admirer of Shane Long - his skills and his attitude as a person - for some time and reckon he is really going to add to what we already have. He is capable, in my view, of not only creating chances out of nothing but will also take them too. I think this is excellent news for our team and the way we play. The glass is half full! Winman
  • Score: 67

10:56am Wed 13 Aug 14

techsture says...

£12.5 million? Hull must be chuckling all the way to the bank. This is the most ridiculous transfer of the summer.

If we cannot find a younger, hungrier striker for less money then the so called "world class scouting system" All need to be fired.
£12.5 million? Hull must be chuckling all the way to the bank. This is the most ridiculous transfer of the summer. If we cannot find a younger, hungrier striker for less money then the so called "world class scouting system" All need to be fired. techsture
  • Score: -43

10:58am Wed 13 Aug 14

killared says...

I think it's a good signing capable to do box to box and play on the wing. He will walk straight in the team which is good. Good luck to him !
I think it's a good signing capable to do box to box and play on the wing. He will walk straight in the team which is good. Good luck to him ! killared
  • Score: 53

10:58am Wed 13 Aug 14

Saint:ShayTed says...

I think he will work well with pelle. Long has loads of energy and keeps going if he settles in and the whole team gel this could get exciting! C'mon you saints!!
I think he will work well with pelle. Long has loads of energy and keeps going if he settles in and the whole team gel this could get exciting! C'mon you saints!! Saint:ShayTed
  • Score: 52

10:59am Wed 13 Aug 14

Stokesofdublin says...

Saint Clements wrote:
I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets."

Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?
Very mixed feelings about this. Seems pricey given his record. But could fit in well and has a lot of experience (including relegation dog-fighting which, sadly, could be valuable). Saint Clements is right to say he wasn't exactly top of the wish list, but "muppets" comment is a bit strong. All in all, this summer has reminded us of the club's real status after a fantastic season. See The Guardian's prediction piece (yesterday) on this.
[quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets." Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?[/p][/quote]Very mixed feelings about this. Seems pricey given his record. But could fit in well and has a lot of experience (including relegation dog-fighting which, sadly, could be valuable). Saint Clements is right to say he wasn't exactly top of the wish list, but "muppets" comment is a bit strong. All in all, this summer has reminded us of the club's real status after a fantastic season. See The Guardian's prediction piece (yesterday) on this. Stokesofdublin
  • Score: 12

10:59am Wed 13 Aug 14

Ozmosis says...

Saint Clements wrote:
I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets."

Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?
Well, it's not the marque signing we all wanted but then the club is trying to be sustainable - going and spending all that money was never going to happen. It's about bringing players on - either homegrown or bought in. It's going to be like that for a while yet....
[quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets." Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?[/p][/quote]Well, it's not the marque signing we all wanted but then the club is trying to be sustainable - going and spending all that money was never going to happen. It's about bringing players on - either homegrown or bought in. It's going to be like that for a while yet.... Ozmosis
  • Score: 14

11:01am Wed 13 Aug 14

george chivers says...

Saint Clements wrote:
I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets."

Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?
An £8m squad player becomes a £12.5 M very expensive signing. But I suppose that's what Liverpool fans think about AL.

What goes around comes around. Good luck to him. I hope he scores a bucket full of goals. No I don't, just a decent amount, or we will be forced to sell him for £25M next May. And so it will go on.
[quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets." Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?[/p][/quote]An £8m squad player becomes a £12.5 M very expensive signing. But I suppose that's what Liverpool fans think about AL. What goes around comes around. Good luck to him. I hope he scores a bucket full of goals. No I don't, just a decent amount, or we will be forced to sell him for £25M next May. And so it will go on. george chivers
  • Score: 42

11:01am Wed 13 Aug 14

Saintnewbury says...

Buddy SFC wrote:
Saint Clements wrote:
I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets."

Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?
Hmmmmmmmmm I wonder who the Muppet is , Your young copywriter or Ronald Koeman ?
Like every player that walks through the doors we give them a chance to perform at St Marys. I agree that the price is high but most clubs will be over pricing players. Just like when Man City and Chelsea have owners with lots of cash. If Long comes then I say good luck and I hope you like it here, unlike the players who have left recently. Cant say names as I have forgotten them already! :)
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets." Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?[/p][/quote]Hmmmmmmmmm I wonder who the Muppet is , Your young copywriter or Ronald Koeman ?[/p][/quote]Like every player that walks through the doors we give them a chance to perform at St Marys. I agree that the price is high but most clubs will be over pricing players. Just like when Man City and Chelsea have owners with lots of cash. If Long comes then I say good luck and I hope you like it here, unlike the players who have left recently. Cant say names as I have forgotten them already! :) Saintnewbury
  • Score: 37

11:02am Wed 13 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

We DO NEED a Striker ...

WELCOME SHANE LONG - COYR+WS
We DO NEED a Striker ... WELCOME SHANE LONG - COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 31

11:05am Wed 13 Aug 14

miltonnroad76 says...

could be good paying a bit over the top but there it is....now get Florin in and we are almost there,,,,cork can play rb if needed we have loads of mf players and tadic and taider can be the speedy wing men....Pelle and Long up front and jay to come back...yes its taken time but RK wasnt going to rashly buy....i kinda wanted Ings here as hes local but Long is a proven player. Good to buy a british player!
could be good paying a bit over the top but there it is....now get Florin in and we are almost there,,,,cork can play rb if needed we have loads of mf players and tadic and taider can be the speedy wing men....Pelle and Long up front and jay to come back...yes its taken time but RK wasnt going to rashly buy....i kinda wanted Ings here as hes local but Long is a proven player. Good to buy a british player! miltonnroad76
  • Score: 22

11:06am Wed 13 Aug 14

up saints says...

techsture wrote:
£12.5 million? Hull must be chuckling all the way to the bank. This is the most ridiculous transfer of the summer.

If we cannot find a younger, hungrier striker for less money then the so called "world class scouting system" All need to be fired.
i have agree with what your saying but if he can bang in 10 goals and make space for pelle and j rod when fit. thats good enough for me.remember he cost less than osvaldo think he will give a better return than him.
[quote][p][bold]techsture[/bold] wrote: £12.5 million? Hull must be chuckling all the way to the bank. This is the most ridiculous transfer of the summer. If we cannot find a younger, hungrier striker for less money then the so called "world class scouting system" All need to be fired.[/p][/quote]i have agree with what your saying but if he can bang in 10 goals and make space for pelle and j rod when fit. thats good enough for me.remember he cost less than osvaldo think he will give a better return than him. up saints
  • Score: 29

11:07am Wed 13 Aug 14

Numpty Girl says...

Ron will mould him into a fighting machine.
Don't underestimate our new boss.
c. o. y. r.
Ron will mould him into a fighting machine. Don't underestimate our new boss. c. o. y. r. Numpty Girl
  • Score: 46

11:07am Wed 13 Aug 14

echo1948 says...

Ozmosis wrote:
Saint Clements wrote:
I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets."

Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?
Well, it's not the marque signing we all wanted but then the club is trying to be sustainable - going and spending all that money was never going to happen. It's about bringing players on - either homegrown or bought in. It's going to be like that for a while yet....
I remember a few comments like these when we bought Rickey Lambert, but given half a chance I can see maybe Shane Long turning out the same. May be just may be.
[quote][p][bold]Ozmosis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets." Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?[/p][/quote]Well, it's not the marque signing we all wanted but then the club is trying to be sustainable - going and spending all that money was never going to happen. It's about bringing players on - either homegrown or bought in. It's going to be like that for a while yet....[/p][/quote]I remember a few comments like these when we bought Rickey Lambert, but given half a chance I can see maybe Shane Long turning out the same. May be just may be. echo1948
  • Score: 26

11:08am Wed 13 Aug 14

up saints says...

up saints wrote:
techsture wrote:
£12.5 million? Hull must be chuckling all the way to the bank. This is the most ridiculous transfer of the summer.

If we cannot find a younger, hungrier striker for less money then the so called "world class scouting system" All need to be fired.
i have agree with what your saying but if he can bang in 10 goals and make space for pelle and j rod when fit. thats good enough for me.remember he cost less than osvaldo think he will give a better return than him.
half agree should be
[quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]techsture[/bold] wrote: £12.5 million? Hull must be chuckling all the way to the bank. This is the most ridiculous transfer of the summer. If we cannot find a younger, hungrier striker for less money then the so called "world class scouting system" All need to be fired.[/p][/quote]i have agree with what your saying but if he can bang in 10 goals and make space for pelle and j rod when fit. thats good enough for me.remember he cost less than osvaldo think he will give a better return than him.[/p][/quote]half agree should be up saints
  • Score: 2

11:08am Wed 13 Aug 14

lastminmoran says...

International player! a busy bee who has a bit of an edge,We get a little mist in front of our eye's with overseas names! I would like the little pea,but fact is he would of cost double of what we are paying for Mr long. So i can see the thinking..but in reality we are buying a good championship player who would have cost about £200-ooo in old money. but with a bit of promotion,a five a'clock shadow, and a nice little speech about being part of a club going place's... cue some racy little rock track and shakey camera... and the doubters will get a nice short affordable name off the club shop printers at a reasonable price.
International player! a busy bee who has a bit of an edge,We get a little mist in front of our eye's with overseas names! I would like the little pea,but fact is he would of cost double of what we are paying for Mr long. So i can see the thinking..but in reality we are buying a good championship player who would have cost about £200-ooo in old money. but with a bit of promotion,a five a'clock shadow, and a nice little speech about being part of a club going place's... cue some racy little rock track and shakey camera... and the doubters will get a nice short affordable name off the club shop printers at a reasonable price. lastminmoran
  • Score: 1

11:08am Wed 13 Aug 14

jls217 says...

I think when JRod makes it back there are going to be a lot defenders who are going to be faced with JRod, Gaston, Shane, Taider and Pelle charging at them and will have trepidation in mined especially when they in turn are being overlapped by Nat and Bertrand and supported by JWP, Tadic, Cork, Schneiderlin(?) and Davis

Sorry neggies but going forward we are quite an impressive outfit.
In defence maybe a question mark or two but when we have the ball we will scare teams.
I think when JRod makes it back there are going to be a lot defenders who are going to be faced with JRod, Gaston, Shane, Taider and Pelle charging at them and will have trepidation in mined especially when they in turn are being overlapped by Nat and Bertrand and supported by JWP, Tadic, Cork, Schneiderlin(?) and Davis Sorry neggies but going forward we are quite an impressive outfit. In defence maybe a question mark or two but when we have the ball we will scare teams. jls217
  • Score: 45

11:09am Wed 13 Aug 14

killared says...

techsture wrote:
£12.5 million? Hull must be chuckling all the way to the bank. This is the most ridiculous transfer of the summer.

If we cannot find a younger, hungrier striker for less money then the so called "world class scouting system" All need to be fired.
I hate to burst your bubble but we cannot get a younger hungrier striker. Our scouting system is very good to spot young talent in the UK but abroad we failed. We are not like FC PORTO for example who have an excellent scouting system in South America and develop recently the like of James Rodriguez, Hulk, Falcao ... and sell them on. We are not like that but we are good to develop our local talent no doubt but abroad we are just clueless I'm afraid anyway Shane Long good signing
[quote][p][bold]techsture[/bold] wrote: £12.5 million? Hull must be chuckling all the way to the bank. This is the most ridiculous transfer of the summer. If we cannot find a younger, hungrier striker for less money then the so called "world class scouting system" All need to be fired.[/p][/quote]I hate to burst your bubble but we cannot get a younger hungrier striker. Our scouting system is very good to spot young talent in the UK but abroad we failed. We are not like FC PORTO for example who have an excellent scouting system in South America and develop recently the like of James Rodriguez, Hulk, Falcao ... and sell them on. We are not like that but we are good to develop our local talent no doubt but abroad we are just clueless I'm afraid anyway Shane Long good signing killared
  • Score: 6

11:10am Wed 13 Aug 14

Bwana23 says...

I am confident that if he gets the service he will score goals. Unlike last season where we made the chances but did not have the finishers, despite Ricky and JRod. Let's wait and see but he could prove to be every bit as good as we need??
I am confident that if he gets the service he will score goals. Unlike last season where we made the chances but did not have the finishers, despite Ricky and JRod. Let's wait and see but he could prove to be every bit as good as we need?? Bwana23
  • Score: 22

11:12am Wed 13 Aug 14

merrysaint says...

Could be a good signing...Pelle needs someone up there with him and it may make HIM a better player.....
Could be a good signing...Pelle needs someone up there with him and it may make HIM a better player..... merrysaint
  • Score: 17

11:12am Wed 13 Aug 14

swisssaint says...

So far, I'm really liking all these new additions to our squad. I may be wrong but most of these new incoming players seem to be natural born leaders with strong personalities and a ''get-up-and-at-them
'' attitude. After enduring a turbid close-season where the guts of our team was systematically ripped apart, this will be an important factor in helping to rebuild team morale and a togetherness at the club. Obviously, this will take a little time to bear fruit but I'm confident that by Christmas we will be reaping the benefits.
So far, I'm really liking all these new additions to our squad. I may be wrong but most of these new incoming players seem to be natural born leaders with strong personalities and a ''get-up-and-at-them '' attitude. After enduring a turbid close-season where the guts of our team was systematically ripped apart, this will be an important factor in helping to rebuild team morale and a togetherness at the club. Obviously, this will take a little time to bear fruit but I'm confident that by Christmas we will be reaping the benefits. swisssaint
  • Score: 10

11:15am Wed 13 Aug 14

InCortesewetrust says...

Oh well it's not my money being spent, mugged off Liverpool enough times I guess it's our turn to be robbed,
Oh well it's not my money being spent, mugged off Liverpool enough times I guess it's our turn to be robbed, InCortesewetrust
  • Score: 13

11:15am Wed 13 Aug 14

SNUGGLES 78 says...

building for the championship lol ,what are they smoking in the boardroom ,ludicrous value.
building for the championship lol ,what are they smoking in the boardroom ,ludicrous value. SNUGGLES 78
  • Score: -51

11:18am Wed 13 Aug 14

spratt says...

Considering the huge pot of money available this is not really what I expected. This scouting team of ours seems out of their depth and I would have thought Ron would have known of better options. However lets get behind him now and give him a huge welcome at St Marys. Could turn out to be the perfect complement to Pelle.
Considering the huge pot of money available this is not really what I expected. This scouting team of ours seems out of their depth and I would have thought Ron would have known of better options. However lets get behind him now and give him a huge welcome at St Marys. Could turn out to be the perfect complement to Pelle. spratt
  • Score: 10

11:22am Wed 13 Aug 14

SiamSaint says...

Saint Clements wrote:
I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets."

Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?
Mauricio Pochettino for one...
[quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets." Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?[/p][/quote]Mauricio Pochettino for one... SiamSaint
  • Score: 5

11:23am Wed 13 Aug 14

SiamSaint says...

Now we have to sign Simon Cox and we can chant "We are Southampton, and we have Long Cox"
Now we have to sign Simon Cox and we can chant "We are Southampton, and we have Long Cox" SiamSaint
  • Score: 37

11:26am Wed 13 Aug 14

killared says...

SNUGGLES 78 wrote:
building for the championship lol ,what are they smoking in the boardroom ,ludicrous value.
So is Lallana and Shaw these two were overpriced and now Hull took advantage of what happen with Liverpool and Man U knowing that we have gold
[quote][p][bold]SNUGGLES 78[/bold] wrote: building for the championship lol ,what are they smoking in the boardroom ,ludicrous value.[/p][/quote]So is Lallana and Shaw these two were overpriced and now Hull took advantage of what happen with Liverpool and Man U knowing that we have gold killared
  • Score: 0

11:29am Wed 13 Aug 14

montecristosaint says...

I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place.
We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.
I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place. We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season. montecristosaint
  • Score: -55

11:31am Wed 13 Aug 14

Big Mac says...

Bit of a long shot me thinks?
Bit of a long shot me thinks? Big Mac
  • Score: 11

11:33am Wed 13 Aug 14

Saintsayer II says...

We will be his third club this year You surely must ask why the other 2 have not fought to keep him
We will be his third club this year You surely must ask why the other 2 have not fought to keep him Saintsayer II
  • Score: 13

11:35am Wed 13 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

miltonnroad76 wrote:
could be good paying a bit over the top but there it is....now get Florin in and we are almost there,,,,cork can play rb if needed we have loads of mf players and tadic and taider can be the speedy wing men....Pelle and Long up front and jay to come back...yes its taken time but RK wasnt going to rashly buy....i kinda wanted Ings here as hes local but Long is a proven player. Good to buy a british player!
He, he. Hope we don't have any Irish people on this forum today. He certainly ain't British.
[quote][p][bold]miltonnroad76[/bold] wrote: could be good paying a bit over the top but there it is....now get Florin in and we are almost there,,,,cork can play rb if needed we have loads of mf players and tadic and taider can be the speedy wing men....Pelle and Long up front and jay to come back...yes its taken time but RK wasnt going to rashly buy....i kinda wanted Ings here as hes local but Long is a proven player. Good to buy a british player![/p][/quote]He, he. Hope we don't have any Irish people on this forum today. He certainly ain't British. SaintJD
  • Score: 16

11:38am Wed 13 Aug 14

Bazultra says...

Well Lamberts record was almost a goal every other game. I wish Shane all the best but 1 goal in every 4 games for the royals! Cant help but think board dont have a scooby doo.
Well Lamberts record was almost a goal every other game. I wish Shane all the best but 1 goal in every 4 games for the royals! Cant help but think board dont have a scooby doo. Bazultra
  • Score: -3

11:39am Wed 13 Aug 14

St Forlife says...

Time will tell I guess. We had a team that just really needed a goalkeeper competion and a striker or two of sheer quality - the rest was already there.

We've sold the family silver and time will tell if what we have bought is good bad or indifferent. I am still angry at rthe sales made - but won't judge until the new team is playing and we can all see how we have 'pushed on' or gone backwards. The board will be happy with their dividends and bonuses - but their incentives are not the same as ours.

Hope he and all the others do well - some excitement about new faces - but I was more excited about things before we sold out.

Fingers crossed
Time will tell I guess. We had a team that just really needed a goalkeeper competion and a striker or two of sheer quality - the rest was already there. We've sold the family silver and time will tell if what we have bought is good bad or indifferent. I am still angry at rthe sales made - but won't judge until the new team is playing and we can all see how we have 'pushed on' or gone backwards. The board will be happy with their dividends and bonuses - but their incentives are not the same as ours. Hope he and all the others do well - some excitement about new faces - but I was more excited about things before we sold out. Fingers crossed St Forlife
  • Score: 14

11:39am Wed 13 Aug 14

Norwegian Saint says...

An hour agao it was 12million.... now 12,5million.... the way the prices go up nowadays... wasn't like this when I was a boy....
An hour agao it was 12million.... now 12,5million.... the way the prices go up nowadays... wasn't like this when I was a boy.... Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 12

11:40am Wed 13 Aug 14

saints1998 says...

That's cheap compared to what we got for all the idiots that wanted to jump ship when the opportunity came. Anyway it's not like we don't have any money and we don't have much debt to pay off either. I think Long is a good player and will always score goals so it is a win win situation.
That's cheap compared to what we got for all the idiots that wanted to jump ship when the opportunity came. Anyway it's not like we don't have any money and we don't have much debt to pay off either. I think Long is a good player and will always score goals so it is a win win situation. saints1998
  • Score: 25

11:41am Wed 13 Aug 14

Chipmonk1 says...

And so the doom mongers descend. Are we worse off for signing Long? No. Are we better off? Yes. Did we pay too much? Yes. So what. We needed a striker with PL experience we got one. Stop your moaning and get behind him. We needed a squad with more depth more signings to come. I love my Saints.
And so the doom mongers descend. Are we worse off for signing Long? No. Are we better off? Yes. Did we pay too much? Yes. So what. We needed a striker with PL experience we got one. Stop your moaning and get behind him. We needed a squad with more depth more signings to come. I love my Saints. Chipmonk1
  • Score: 41

11:42am Wed 13 Aug 14

Tony Robertson says...

Folkestone Saint wrote:
Never liked him as he is a total wind-up merchant and a bit of a diver, but then maybe we were too nice last season and thats why we "only" finished 8th
Heartily agree; he is an abject disgrace to football. Winding-up players and referees alike, continually diving. Does not fit the 'Southampton way'. As for the price, ridiculous, makes SRL worth about £50 millions.
He would fit in well at Diverpiddle.

Tony Robertson, Stranraer
[quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: Never liked him as he is a total wind-up merchant and a bit of a diver, but then maybe we were too nice last season and thats why we "only" finished 8th[/p][/quote]Heartily agree; he is an abject disgrace to football. Winding-up players and referees alike, continually diving. Does not fit the 'Southampton way'. As for the price, ridiculous, makes SRL worth about £50 millions. He would fit in well at Diverpiddle. Tony Robertson, Stranraer Tony Robertson
  • Score: -29

11:43am Wed 13 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

jls217 wrote:
I think when JRod makes it back there are going to be a lot defenders who are going to be faced with JRod, Gaston, Shane, Taider and Pelle charging at them and will have trepidation in mined especially when they in turn are being overlapped by Nat and Bertrand and supported by JWP, Tadic, Cork, Schneiderlin(?) and Davis

Sorry neggies but going forward we are quite an impressive outfit.
In defence maybe a question mark or two but when we have the ball we will scare teams.
Yep, lots of pace and get up and go in the team, that's for sure! COYS!
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: I think when JRod makes it back there are going to be a lot defenders who are going to be faced with JRod, Gaston, Shane, Taider and Pelle charging at them and will have trepidation in mined especially when they in turn are being overlapped by Nat and Bertrand and supported by JWP, Tadic, Cork, Schneiderlin(?) and Davis Sorry neggies but going forward we are quite an impressive outfit. In defence maybe a question mark or two but when we have the ball we will scare teams.[/p][/quote]Yep, lots of pace and get up and go in the team, that's for sure! COYS! Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 7

11:46am Wed 13 Aug 14

milton road says...

Being honest I would rather have taken a chance on Remi. Yet we are almost starting the season and it would appear we did not really have players crying to come here or top players being scouted and ready to move.
Shane Long will probably give us the same return as RL though and is a premier player so he should not need a lot of time to adjust. he is quite powerful and could actually do a job alongside Pelle. May not be fancy but tough. 12m is well over the top but he is 27 and is younger than Pelle who cost around 10 mill. Well let us see how it all goes I am not expecting anything from the Liverpool game will all take time to gel
Being honest I would rather have taken a chance on Remi. Yet we are almost starting the season and it would appear we did not really have players crying to come here or top players being scouted and ready to move. Shane Long will probably give us the same return as RL though and is a premier player so he should not need a lot of time to adjust. he is quite powerful and could actually do a job alongside Pelle. May not be fancy but tough. 12m is well over the top but he is 27 and is younger than Pelle who cost around 10 mill. Well let us see how it all goes I am not expecting anything from the Liverpool game will all take time to gel milton road
  • Score: 9

11:46am Wed 13 Aug 14

gadge60 says...

For me this is great news. I have listened to the doom merchants whining all summer. Gradually RK has built a new and excting squad. In the development of talent we are second to none. The highest ever transfer came from out Academy. I have to laugh at the Arsenals and Liverpools because they have to steel from us rather than create their own.
I think we are in for a really interesting and exciting season. COYRs
For me this is great news. I have listened to the doom merchants whining all summer. Gradually RK has built a new and excting squad. In the development of talent we are second to none. The highest ever transfer came from out Academy. I have to laugh at the Arsenals and Liverpools because they have to steel from us rather than create their own. I think we are in for a really interesting and exciting season. COYRs gadge60
  • Score: 26

11:47am Wed 13 Aug 14

THE12THMAN says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
An hour agao it was 12million.... now 12,5million.... the way the prices go up nowadays... wasn't like this when I was a boy....
I don't think we will be told the true cost, the fee will probably be undisclosed if it happens.
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: An hour agao it was 12million.... now 12,5million.... the way the prices go up nowadays... wasn't like this when I was a boy....[/p][/quote]I don't think we will be told the true cost, the fee will probably be undisclosed if it happens. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 12

11:48am Wed 13 Aug 14

Beer Monster says...

SiamSaint wrote:
Saint Clements wrote:
I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets."

Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?
Mauricio Pochettino for one...
Exactly - when he was at West Brom he was knocking them in for fun, and our biggest problem last season was the inability to convert the chances in front of goal. Personally, I've had him in my dream team in the past because he's good value...
[quote][p][bold]SiamSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets." Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?[/p][/quote]Mauricio Pochettino for one...[/p][/quote]Exactly - when he was at West Brom he was knocking them in for fun, and our biggest problem last season was the inability to convert the chances in front of goal. Personally, I've had him in my dream team in the past because he's good value... Beer Monster
  • Score: 22

11:49am Wed 13 Aug 14

miltonarcher says...

jls217 wrote:
I think when JRod makes it back there are going to be a lot defenders who are going to be faced with JRod, Gaston, Shane, Taider and Pelle charging at them and will have trepidation in mined especially when they in turn are being overlapped by Nat and Bertrand and supported by JWP, Tadic, Cork, Schneiderlin(?) and Davis

Sorry neggies but going forward we are quite an impressive outfit.
In defence maybe a question mark or two but when we have the ball we will scare teams.
Its pace that scares defences, we dont have any pace.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: I think when JRod makes it back there are going to be a lot defenders who are going to be faced with JRod, Gaston, Shane, Taider and Pelle charging at them and will have trepidation in mined especially when they in turn are being overlapped by Nat and Bertrand and supported by JWP, Tadic, Cork, Schneiderlin(?) and Davis Sorry neggies but going forward we are quite an impressive outfit. In defence maybe a question mark or two but when we have the ball we will scare teams.[/p][/quote]Its pace that scares defences, we dont have any pace. miltonarcher
  • Score: -3

11:53am Wed 13 Aug 14

RedPastramy says...

This signing clearly states our ambition.. back to fighting for survival
This signing clearly states our ambition.. back to fighting for survival RedPastramy
  • Score: -24

11:54am Wed 13 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Perspective:

Lambert: 4M. Adam: about £15M in hand, Chambers £16M, Lovren £16M, Shaw 27M = about £80M.

Incoming: Tadic 10M, Pelle 9M (?), centreback 6M, Long 12M, Forster £10M plus two loanees = 47M.

On my estimation that's seven players in, five out, with about £30M to spend.

Let's assume we used that to buy a premier striker and a quality defender - is that starting to look like reasonably good business?

In all honesty I think the real shame is the amount of players (bought during the NC era) who are leaving for nothing. That, in my opinion is where the problem lies because we are having to replace players for cash who left for nothing.

Replacing the likes of Sharpe, Guly, Osvaldo, several others, and particularly Rickie for a combined fee of 4M is where the real problem lies.
Perspective: Lambert: 4M. Adam: about £15M in hand, Chambers £16M, Lovren £16M, Shaw 27M = about £80M. Incoming: Tadic 10M, Pelle 9M (?), centreback 6M, Long 12M, Forster £10M plus two loanees = 47M. On my estimation that's seven players in, five out, with about £30M to spend. Let's assume we used that to buy a premier striker and a quality defender - is that starting to look like reasonably good business? In all honesty I think the real shame is the amount of players (bought during the NC era) who are leaving for nothing. That, in my opinion is where the problem lies because we are having to replace players for cash who left for nothing. Replacing the likes of Sharpe, Guly, Osvaldo, several others, and particularly Rickie for a combined fee of 4M is where the real problem lies. SaintJD
  • Score: 6

11:56am Wed 13 Aug 14

Alicesdad says...

Seems a big price tag but we are truly in the silly season so why not . Then again we seem to be able to afford it and it may be an inspired signing.

This is a leap of faith so i'll trust the judgement of those with the responsibility and judge when we see the results. Ron must have had a say in terms of the mans ability so lets respect that.

Remember - not everyone is an Osvaldo. This is Shane Long's big break. It could work really well for him and us.

I recall I was a doubter that J-Rod was worth 7 million. It took him time but he made the grade in the end.

Lets not be hypocrites about this - look how much we got for Shaw and Lallana - I still think that was simply a massive overpricing - but the football transfer world is simply mental at the moment.

So welcome to your new club Shane. Go get 'em boy !!
Seems a big price tag but we are truly in the silly season so why not . Then again we seem to be able to afford it and it may be an inspired signing. This is a leap of faith so i'll trust the judgement of those with the responsibility and judge when we see the results. Ron must have had a say in terms of the mans ability so lets respect that. Remember - not everyone is an Osvaldo. This is Shane Long's big break. It could work really well for him and us. I recall I was a doubter that J-Rod was worth 7 million. It took him time but he made the grade in the end. Lets not be hypocrites about this - look how much we got for Shaw and Lallana - I still think that was simply a massive overpricing - but the football transfer world is simply mental at the moment. So welcome to your new club Shane. Go get 'em boy !! Alicesdad
  • Score: 15

11:58am Wed 13 Aug 14

Tony Robertson says...

SaintJD wrote, inter alia : "Replacing the likes of Sharpe, Guly, Osvaldo, several others, and particularly Rickie for a combined fee of 4M is where the real problem lies."
I think the real problem is that we no longer have a TEAM.

Tony Robertson, Stranraer
SaintJD wrote, inter alia : "Replacing the likes of Sharpe, Guly, Osvaldo, several others, and particularly Rickie for a combined fee of 4M is where the real problem lies." I think the real problem is that we no longer have a TEAM. Tony Robertson, Stranraer Tony Robertson
  • Score: -27

12:00pm Wed 13 Aug 14

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

So is it bye bye J ROD ???
Think we could of done so much better Ronnie . But am happy to eat my words !
So is it bye bye J ROD ??? Think we could of done so much better Ronnie . But am happy to eat my words ! SPIKEISLANDTRADER
  • Score: -15

12:01pm Wed 13 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Welcome to a fine club, best of luck with the next stage of your career, may you score many goals.
Welcome to a fine club, best of luck with the next stage of your career, may you score many goals. fascia123
  • Score: 15

12:06pm Wed 13 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
So is it bye bye J ROD ???
Think we could of done so much better Ronnie . But am happy to eat my words !
We have just won the lottery, oh god I will have to open a new bank account, and get a bigger house and oh no a Ferrari as well.
[quote][p][bold]SPIKEISLANDTRADER[/bold] wrote: So is it bye bye J ROD ??? Think we could of done so much better Ronnie . But am happy to eat my words ![/p][/quote]We have just won the lottery, oh god I will have to open a new bank account, and get a bigger house and oh no a Ferrari as well. fascia123
  • Score: 5

12:12pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Alicesdad says...

According to some the Saints were dead.

Oh Really !

The new team under Ron is nearly completed. Take a good look at what he's done. It's pretty good really.


The press fuelled rumours of the club being sold seem unfounded. The pwners and Board have put their money where their mouth is.

There isn't a club anywhere outside the premiership, or in the bottom half of last seasons premiership for that matter, who wouldnt give their right arms to swap places with us.

The bookies reckon we'll get tonked on Sunday, time will tell. If we pull something off in our first game under the new manager YOU JUST KNOW we'll be claiming our Champions League place on this site next Monday.

Good innit
According to some the Saints were dead. Oh Really ! The new team under Ron is nearly completed. Take a good look at what he's done. It's pretty good really. The press fuelled rumours of the club being sold seem unfounded. The pwners and Board have put their money where their mouth is. There isn't a club anywhere outside the premiership, or in the bottom half of last seasons premiership for that matter, who wouldnt give their right arms to swap places with us. The bookies reckon we'll get tonked on Sunday, time will tell. If we pull something off in our first game under the new manager YOU JUST KNOW we'll be claiming our Champions League place on this site next Monday. Good innit Alicesdad
  • Score: 16

12:12pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Licky_Rambert says...

who remembers gaston getting sent off for trying to elbow shane long's head off??
anyways, predictably over-priced but will get my 100% support when he puts on the shirt.
but I don't think i'll be changing my name on here to "Lane Schlong" just yet.....
who remembers gaston getting sent off for trying to elbow shane long's head off?? anyways, predictably over-priced but will get my 100% support when he puts on the shirt. but I don't think i'll be changing my name on here to "Lane Schlong" just yet..... Licky_Rambert
  • Score: 10

12:13pm Wed 13 Aug 14

St Forlife says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
An hour agao it was 12million.... now 12,5million.... the way the prices go up nowadays... wasn't like this when I was a boy....
Aye, in my day you could buy 3 strikers, 1 centre half, a goalie, 2 midfielders and a bench of subs all for 3/6d - and still have change for a winger!
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: An hour agao it was 12million.... now 12,5million.... the way the prices go up nowadays... wasn't like this when I was a boy....[/p][/quote]Aye, in my day you could buy 3 strikers, 1 centre half, a goalie, 2 midfielders and a bench of subs all for 3/6d - and still have change for a winger! St Forlife
  • Score: 7

12:15pm Wed 13 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Alicesdad wrote:
Seems a big price tag but we are truly in the silly season so why not . Then again we seem to be able to afford it and it may be an inspired signing.

This is a leap of faith so i'll trust the judgement of those with the responsibility and judge when we see the results. Ron must have had a say in terms of the mans ability so lets respect that.

Remember - not everyone is an Osvaldo. This is Shane Long's big break. It could work really well for him and us.

I recall I was a doubter that J-Rod was worth 7 million. It took him time but he made the grade in the end.

Lets not be hypocrites about this - look how much we got for Shaw and Lallana - I still think that was simply a massive overpricing - but the football transfer world is simply mental at the moment.

So welcome to your new club Shane. Go get 'em boy !!
Good news I think he will play well off Pelle, we have an abundance of midfielders even if Spider goes., hope he doesn't but if he does may give more opportunity to Cork which won't be a bad thing, and will also give us another 20K to further strengthen.

Need to get Florin deal done another top CB as well, the full back from Leeds would be good and a winger like Pahars.

Then we will have a very good squad indeed. IMO
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Seems a big price tag but we are truly in the silly season so why not . Then again we seem to be able to afford it and it may be an inspired signing. This is a leap of faith so i'll trust the judgement of those with the responsibility and judge when we see the results. Ron must have had a say in terms of the mans ability so lets respect that. Remember - not everyone is an Osvaldo. This is Shane Long's big break. It could work really well for him and us. I recall I was a doubter that J-Rod was worth 7 million. It took him time but he made the grade in the end. Lets not be hypocrites about this - look how much we got for Shaw and Lallana - I still think that was simply a massive overpricing - but the football transfer world is simply mental at the moment. So welcome to your new club Shane. Go get 'em boy !![/p][/quote]Good news I think he will play well off Pelle, we have an abundance of midfielders even if Spider goes., hope he doesn't but if he does may give more opportunity to Cork which won't be a bad thing, and will also give us another 20K to further strengthen. Need to get Florin deal done another top CB as well, the full back from Leeds would be good and a winger like Pahars. Then we will have a very good squad indeed. IMO fascia123
  • Score: 6

12:17pm Wed 13 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Tony Robertson wrote:
SaintJD wrote, inter alia : "Replacing the likes of Sharpe, Guly, Osvaldo, several others, and particularly Rickie for a combined fee of 4M is where the real problem lies."
I think the real problem is that we no longer have a TEAM.

Tony Robertson, Stranraer
'I think the real problem is that we no longer have a TEAM'

Are you a Pompey fan Tony? If so, good point.

If not, your observation would have been entirely correct if we were still at the foot of League One without a buyer. In the current climate it is factually incorrect and, at best, akin to the rantings of a spoilt child.

Yes we can be unhappy with the signings we have or the people who have left, but this is the situation we are in. Whoever we buy will need time to gell.

By the way, repeating your username at the bottom of the post does not make your post any more legitimate

Saint JD, bored.
[quote][p][bold]Tony Robertson[/bold] wrote: SaintJD wrote, inter alia : "Replacing the likes of Sharpe, Guly, Osvaldo, several others, and particularly Rickie for a combined fee of 4M is where the real problem lies." I think the real problem is that we no longer have a TEAM. Tony Robertson, Stranraer[/p][/quote]'I think the real problem is that we no longer have a TEAM' Are you a Pompey fan Tony? If so, good point. If not, your observation would have been entirely correct if we were still at the foot of League One without a buyer. In the current climate it is factually incorrect and, at best, akin to the rantings of a spoilt child. Yes we can be unhappy with the signings we have or the people who have left, but this is the situation we are in. Whoever we buy will need time to gell. By the way, repeating your username at the bottom of the post does not make your post any more legitimate Saint JD, bored. SaintJD
  • Score: 16

12:19pm Wed 13 Aug 14

redandy10 says...

Good to have some more fresh blood in the squad, but definitely OVERPRICED.

I take it Les negoitiated the fee!!!
Good to have some more fresh blood in the squad, but definitely OVERPRICED. I take it Les negoitiated the fee!!! redandy10
  • Score: -9

12:22pm Wed 13 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Strange that posters such as Sammy and Blue Means Liquidation disappear at these times to be replaced by people with odd usernames.

It makes you wonder just how much time you'd have to waste if your club was languishing at the foot of League 2 with no realistic chance of actually signing anyone.

Can understand it though - whether a good signing or not, Shane Long is worth several multiples of their entire squad. Signing Shane Long would likely be the best thing to happen to Pompey in the next 50 years.
Strange that posters such as Sammy and Blue Means Liquidation disappear at these times to be replaced by people with odd usernames. It makes you wonder just how much time you'd have to waste if your club was languishing at the foot of League 2 with no realistic chance of actually signing anyone. Can understand it though - whether a good signing or not, Shane Long is worth several multiples of their entire squad. Signing Shane Long would likely be the best thing to happen to Pompey in the next 50 years. SaintJD
  • Score: 1

12:26pm Wed 13 Aug 14

TGodSFC says...

I can understand people’s reservations about this transfer, but honestly if SFC signed him for 6-7M pretty sure everyone would be happy. We held clubs to ransom for great prices for our players, sadly it works both ways. The market atm is crazy and it’s about getting the right player who wants to play for the club.

I personally think Shane is a great bit of business and think he will be a great addition to the squad not only on the pitch but off it too, which is very important. Having players like Kelvin and Shane (jokers) is great for moral.

Florin and Shane in, very pleased, two good players that will work for the team, I don’t expect them to be the last in this window either.
I can understand people’s reservations about this transfer, but honestly if SFC signed him for 6-7M pretty sure everyone would be happy. We held clubs to ransom for great prices for our players, sadly it works both ways. The market atm is crazy and it’s about getting the right player who wants to play for the club. I personally think Shane is a great bit of business and think he will be a great addition to the squad not only on the pitch but off it too, which is very important. Having players like Kelvin and Shane (jokers) is great for moral. Florin and Shane in, very pleased, two good players that will work for the team, I don’t expect them to be the last in this window either. TGodSFC
  • Score: 13

12:26pm Wed 13 Aug 14

bartley41 says...

We must not forget that Cortese left the Club owing Millions on the Staple wood development and unpaid transfer fees, this had to be repaid first..

The easiest thing in life is to spend money that is not yours!

Not easy but just remain positive, after the first ten games we will all have s a better idea.
We must not forget that Cortese left the Club owing Millions on the Staple wood development and unpaid transfer fees, this had to be repaid first.. The easiest thing in life is to spend money that is not yours! Not easy but just remain positive, after the first ten games we will all have s a better idea. bartley41
  • Score: 11

12:27pm Wed 13 Aug 14

BracknellSaint says...

miltonarcher wrote:
jls217 wrote:
I think when JRod makes it back there are going to be a lot defenders who are going to be faced with JRod, Gaston, Shane, Taider and Pelle charging at them and will have trepidation in mined especially when they in turn are being overlapped by Nat and Bertrand and supported by JWP, Tadic, Cork, Schneiderlin(?) and Davis

Sorry neggies but going forward we are quite an impressive outfit.
In defence maybe a question mark or two but when we have the ball we will scare teams.
Its pace that scares defences, we dont have any pace.
JRod, Long, Isgrove- there's plenty of pace in those three. And Clyne / Bertrand on the flanks.
[quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: I think when JRod makes it back there are going to be a lot defenders who are going to be faced with JRod, Gaston, Shane, Taider and Pelle charging at them and will have trepidation in mined especially when they in turn are being overlapped by Nat and Bertrand and supported by JWP, Tadic, Cork, Schneiderlin(?) and Davis Sorry neggies but going forward we are quite an impressive outfit. In defence maybe a question mark or two but when we have the ball we will scare teams.[/p][/quote]Its pace that scares defences, we dont have any pace.[/p][/quote]JRod, Long, Isgrove- there's plenty of pace in those three. And Clyne / Bertrand on the flanks. BracknellSaint
  • Score: 9

12:27pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Saints n Winners says...

Ozmosis wrote:
It seems a heavy price tag but, knowing that we have money due to player sales, clubs were always going to hold us to ransom.
I wonder how much lower the tag would have been if had he been bought earlier? We are now desperate - so the price is high.

If he bags his normal goals (9 or 10), then. Pelle, Taider and Tadic together net 20 (they are new to this league) between them will be satisfactory. That leaves Ramirez and the rest of the team to get the other goals. I cant see us getting 50 goals this year, but I would like to be proven wrong.

Possibly the most interesting bit of this story is how long it takes Steve Bruce to get a replacement. Probably not "Long" and the board should be watching this bit.
[quote][p][bold]Ozmosis[/bold] wrote: It seems a heavy price tag but, knowing that we have money due to player sales, clubs were always going to hold us to ransom.[/p][/quote]I wonder how much lower the tag would have been if had he been bought earlier? We are now desperate - so the price is high. If he bags his normal goals (9 or 10), then. Pelle, Taider and Tadic together net 20 (they are new to this league) between them will be satisfactory. That leaves Ramirez and the rest of the team to get the other goals. I cant see us getting 50 goals this year, but I would like to be proven wrong. Possibly the most interesting bit of this story is how long it takes Steve Bruce to get a replacement. Probably not "Long" and the board should be watching this bit. Saints n Winners
  • Score: 9

12:28pm Wed 13 Aug 14

FindAndDestroy says...

There is a French saying : once you have poured the wine into the glass, you cant put it back in the bottle.....you have to drink it..

Welcome to Saints Shane, we have nothing against you, it's just how much you have been asked to pay for you...
Whether it's been the board decision or Gaffer's we don't know,,,

Hope they saw something we did not..
There is a French saying : once you have poured the wine into the glass, you cant put it back in the bottle.....you have to drink it.. Welcome to Saints Shane, we have nothing against you, it's just how much you have been asked to pay for you... Whether it's been the board decision or Gaffer's we don't know,,, Hope they saw something we did not.. FindAndDestroy
  • Score: 7

12:30pm Wed 13 Aug 14

BracknellSaint says...

milton road wrote:
Being honest I would rather have taken a chance on Remi. Yet we are almost starting the season and it would appear we did not really have players crying to come here or top players being scouted and ready to move.
Shane Long will probably give us the same return as RL though and is a premier player so he should not need a lot of time to adjust. he is quite powerful and could actually do a job alongside Pelle. May not be fancy but tough. 12m is well over the top but he is 27 and is younger than Pelle who cost around 10 mill. Well let us see how it all goes I am not expecting anything from the Liverpool game will all take time to gel
Remy probably wants about 100k + per week though.
We'd never get him unfortunately..
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: Being honest I would rather have taken a chance on Remi. Yet we are almost starting the season and it would appear we did not really have players crying to come here or top players being scouted and ready to move. Shane Long will probably give us the same return as RL though and is a premier player so he should not need a lot of time to adjust. he is quite powerful and could actually do a job alongside Pelle. May not be fancy but tough. 12m is well over the top but he is 27 and is younger than Pelle who cost around 10 mill. Well let us see how it all goes I am not expecting anything from the Liverpool game will all take time to gel[/p][/quote]Remy probably wants about 100k + per week though. We'd never get him unfortunately.. BracknellSaint
  • Score: 4

12:33pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Big Mac says...

Off subject, but does anyone know if Morgan is back training yet?
Off subject, but does anyone know if Morgan is back training yet? Big Mac
  • Score: 2

12:33pm Wed 13 Aug 14

FindAndDestroy says...

Ozmosis wrote:
It seems a heavy price tag but, knowing that we have money due to player sales, clubs were always going to hold us to ransom.
on that note, we could have asked Liverhampton to pay us 30M for Lovren, since they got nearly 80M selling Suarez...
[quote][p][bold]Ozmosis[/bold] wrote: It seems a heavy price tag but, knowing that we have money due to player sales, clubs were always going to hold us to ransom.[/p][/quote]on that note, we could have asked Liverhampton to pay us 30M for Lovren, since they got nearly 80M selling Suarez... FindAndDestroy
  • Score: 6

12:37pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

Big Mac wrote:
Off subject, but does anyone know if Morgan is back training yet?
He was training on Monday according to reports .......... Hoping they are soring this out until Xmas when he will go I'm sure for an inflated fee ............
[quote][p][bold]Big Mac[/bold] wrote: Off subject, but does anyone know if Morgan is back training yet?[/p][/quote]He was training on Monday according to reports .......... Hoping they are soring this out until Xmas when he will go I'm sure for an inflated fee ............ Buddy SFC
  • Score: 7

12:39pm Wed 13 Aug 14

cebu blue says...

montecristosaint wrote:
I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place.
We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.
Saints look to have blown it for this season, after having such a tremendous last season.


Liverpool 2-0
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place. We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.[/p][/quote]Saints look to have blown it for this season, after having such a tremendous last season. Liverpool 2-0 cebu blue
  • Score: -15

12:41pm Wed 13 Aug 14

BracknellSaint says...

It's a rather large fee,but he is he kind of player who would fit our high tempo game well, he'd chip in with 8-10 goals, would create space etc for Pelle to get more, and has genuine pace to get in and about opposition centre backs.
Probably worth 7- 8 Million, but I personally think he'd be a beneficial addition to our squad.
Would still like a marquee signing though- a really exciting attacker would be great, along with the Romanian defender, and we're looking good.
It's a rather large fee,but he is he kind of player who would fit our high tempo game well, he'd chip in with 8-10 goals, would create space etc for Pelle to get more, and has genuine pace to get in and about opposition centre backs. Probably worth 7- 8 Million, but I personally think he'd be a beneficial addition to our squad. Would still like a marquee signing though- a really exciting attacker would be great, along with the Romanian defender, and we're looking good. BracknellSaint
  • Score: 9

12:42pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Graham, North of Watford says...

Buddy SFC wrote:
Saint Clements wrote:
I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets."

Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?
Hmmmmmmmmm I wonder who the Muppet is , Your young copywriter or Ronald Koeman ?
Well there you go. If its negative it must be true if you believe that half these posters are Saints people.

He's now a Saint, he's one of us.

The very least he deserves is a chance to blossom.

There is no mystical split between Boardroom and Manager.

There is no conspiracy to trawl the market to buy 2nd. Rate players at over the top prices.

There are risks, there are dangers, there are bad decisions, there are judgement calls of pure genius.

Take your pick.

But, at least, give US a chance to make our own destinies. Surely, to Go, we all want the same thing
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets." Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?[/p][/quote]Hmmmmmmmmm I wonder who the Muppet is , Your young copywriter or Ronald Koeman ?[/p][/quote]Well there you go. If its negative it must be true if you believe that half these posters are Saints people. He's now a Saint, he's one of us. The very least he deserves is a chance to blossom. There is no mystical split between Boardroom and Manager. There is no conspiracy to trawl the market to buy 2nd. Rate players at over the top prices. There are risks, there are dangers, there are bad decisions, there are judgement calls of pure genius. Take your pick. But, at least, give US a chance to make our own destinies. Surely, to Go, we all want the same thing Graham, North of Watford
  • Score: 8

12:43pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

redandy10 wrote:
Good to have some more fresh blood in the squad, but definitely OVERPRICED.

I take it Les negoitiated the fee!!!
Happy for Les to sell , Lala, Luke Dejan as being overpriced to Liverhampton but £4 million over the odds on one player and we're all up in arms .........

I think this is a signing for the whole picture not just his own ability, a very good player who could well Gell Pelle and Tadic together !
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: Good to have some more fresh blood in the squad, but definitely OVERPRICED. I take it Les negoitiated the fee!!![/p][/quote]Happy for Les to sell , Lala, Luke Dejan as being overpriced to Liverhampton but £4 million over the odds on one player and we're all up in arms ......... I think this is a signing for the whole picture not just his own ability, a very good player who could well Gell Pelle and Tadic together ! Buddy SFC
  • Score: 10

12:45pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Folkestone Saint says...

SaintJD wrote:
Tony Robertson wrote:
SaintJD wrote, inter alia : "Replacing the likes of Sharpe, Guly, Osvaldo, several others, and particularly Rickie for a combined fee of 4M is where the real problem lies."
I think the real problem is that we no longer have a TEAM.

Tony Robertson, Stranraer
'I think the real problem is that we no longer have a TEAM'

Are you a Pompey fan Tony? If so, good point.

If not, your observation would have been entirely correct if we were still at the foot of League One without a buyer. In the current climate it is factually incorrect and, at best, akin to the rantings of a spoilt child.

Yes we can be unhappy with the signings we have or the people who have left, but this is the situation we are in. Whoever we buy will need time to gell.

By the way, repeating your username at the bottom of the post does not make your post any more legitimate

Saint JD, bored.
You know this is an opinion site don't you, as calling a Saints fan a poopey fan is as low as you can get, just because you don't agree that doesn't give you the right to be so rude,
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tony Robertson[/bold] wrote: SaintJD wrote, inter alia : "Replacing the likes of Sharpe, Guly, Osvaldo, several others, and particularly Rickie for a combined fee of 4M is where the real problem lies." I think the real problem is that we no longer have a TEAM. Tony Robertson, Stranraer[/p][/quote]'I think the real problem is that we no longer have a TEAM' Are you a Pompey fan Tony? If so, good point. If not, your observation would have been entirely correct if we were still at the foot of League One without a buyer. In the current climate it is factually incorrect and, at best, akin to the rantings of a spoilt child. Yes we can be unhappy with the signings we have or the people who have left, but this is the situation we are in. Whoever we buy will need time to gell. By the way, repeating your username at the bottom of the post does not make your post any more legitimate Saint JD, bored.[/p][/quote]You know this is an opinion site don't you, as calling a Saints fan a poopey fan is as low as you can get, just because you don't agree that doesn't give you the right to be so rude, Folkestone Saint
  • Score: 0

12:46pm Wed 13 Aug 14

THE12THMAN says...

cebu blue wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place.
We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.
Saints look to have blown it for this season, after having such a tremendous last season.


Liverpool 2-0
As you seem to be able to see in to the future could you tell me tonight's winning lottery numbers, I didn't realise fish were so clever.
[quote][p][bold]cebu blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place. We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.[/p][/quote]Saints look to have blown it for this season, after having such a tremendous last season. Liverpool 2-0[/p][/quote]As you seem to be able to see in to the future could you tell me tonight's winning lottery numbers, I didn't realise fish were so clever. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 6

12:46pm Wed 13 Aug 14

WobblyCat says...

Saint Clements wrote:
I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets."

Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?
I quite agree with you though you won’t win Mr Popular on here with comments like that! Some Saints fans will not accept a single word said against the club even if it’s a well balanced point and even if you do give a nod to the recent past (yes I remember where we were 5 years ago)! Of all those clicking the minus button, I wonder how many thought a few weeks ago ‘we’ve got cash to burn let’s get Shane Long’. Got my doubts about this one and I feel free to express them without fear of being a traitor! I really hope he does the business though.
[quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets." Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?[/p][/quote]I quite agree with you though you won’t win Mr Popular on here with comments like that! Some Saints fans will not accept a single word said against the club even if it’s a well balanced point and even if you do give a nod to the recent past (yes I remember where we were 5 years ago)! Of all those clicking the minus button, I wonder how many thought a few weeks ago ‘we’ve got cash to burn let’s get Shane Long’. Got my doubts about this one and I feel free to express them without fear of being a traitor! I really hope he does the business though. WobblyCat
  • Score: 10

12:47pm Wed 13 Aug 14

redandy10 says...

Looking at national paper threads, the consensus seems to be that Hull City saw us coming.
Looking at national paper threads, the consensus seems to be that Hull City saw us coming. redandy10
  • Score: 3

12:47pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Rupert Lowe's Backside says...

montecristosaint wrote:
I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place.
We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.
So would you rather have the same players we had last year, all disgruntled and not giving too flying f**ks about RoKo?

Im disappointed that the board didnt have RoKo signed and ready as soon as MoPo left (we all knew he would) At least the new manager may have been able to talk to the players first and 'win' them over.

We set a dangerous precedent by selling SRL so early. The dominoes then fell...

So the board decided it was time to get the cash and start again with RoKo. Suck it up mate, and support the team and cheer Shane on!
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place. We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.[/p][/quote]So would you rather have the same players we had last year, all disgruntled and not giving too flying f**ks about RoKo? Im disappointed that the board didnt have RoKo signed and ready as soon as MoPo left (we all knew he would) At least the new manager may have been able to talk to the players first and 'win' them over. We set a dangerous precedent by selling SRL so early. The dominoes then fell... So the board decided it was time to get the cash and start again with RoKo. Suck it up mate, and support the team and cheer Shane on! Rupert Lowe's Backside
  • Score: 8

12:47pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Saintcosser says...

12.5 million is way overpriced but so is 28 million for Shaw, 25 million for Lallana and 20 million for Lovern.

Would have preferred Litle Pea from Man Utd but it wasn't to be, however, Long could do a decent job for us as he's full of running and could feed off Pelle. Could be the new Phillips and Quinn partnerhip?

Up the Saints.
12.5 million is way overpriced but so is 28 million for Shaw, 25 million for Lallana and 20 million for Lovern. Would have preferred Litle Pea from Man Utd but it wasn't to be, however, Long could do a decent job for us as he's full of running and could feed off Pelle. Could be the new Phillips and Quinn partnerhip? Up the Saints. Saintcosser
  • Score: 13

12:49pm Wed 13 Aug 14

redandy10 says...

Buddy SFC wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Good to have some more fresh blood in the squad, but definitely OVERPRICED.

I take it Les negoitiated the fee!!!
Happy for Les to sell , Lala, Luke Dejan as being overpriced to Liverhampton but £4 million over the odds on one player and we're all up in arms .........

I think this is a signing for the whole picture not just his own ability, a very good player who could well Gell Pelle and Tadic together !
Maybe Buddy!

Hopefully Ron has sth in mind and he'll serve a purpose and the fee will end up looking a bargain. If it were Nigel buying him I'd be really worried, but I have faith in Ron.
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: Good to have some more fresh blood in the squad, but definitely OVERPRICED. I take it Les negoitiated the fee!!![/p][/quote]Happy for Les to sell , Lala, Luke Dejan as being overpriced to Liverhampton but £4 million over the odds on one player and we're all up in arms ......... I think this is a signing for the whole picture not just his own ability, a very good player who could well Gell Pelle and Tadic together ![/p][/quote]Maybe Buddy! Hopefully Ron has sth in mind and he'll serve a purpose and the fee will end up looking a bargain. If it were Nigel buying him I'd be really worried, but I have faith in Ron. redandy10
  • Score: 4

12:49pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Saints n Winners says...

redandy10 wrote:
Looking at national paper threads, the consensus seems to be that Hull City saw us coming.
They should have sorted it out weeks ago, and the price would have been lower. How long ago did RL leave?
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: Looking at national paper threads, the consensus seems to be that Hull City saw us coming.[/p][/quote]They should have sorted it out weeks ago, and the price would have been lower. How long ago did RL leave? Saints n Winners
  • Score: 1

12:50pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Chipmonk1 says...

Buddy SFC wrote:
Big Mac wrote:
Off subject, but does anyone know if Morgan is back training yet?
He was training on Monday according to reports .......... Hoping they are soring this out until Xmas when he will go I'm sure for an inflated fee ............
He won't when he sees we are above spuds and MoPo has been sacked! Thats's what I am asking Father Christmas for anyway.
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Big Mac[/bold] wrote: Off subject, but does anyone know if Morgan is back training yet?[/p][/quote]He was training on Monday according to reports .......... Hoping they are soring this out until Xmas when he will go I'm sure for an inflated fee ............[/p][/quote]He won't when he sees we are above spuds and MoPo has been sacked! Thats's what I am asking Father Christmas for anyway. Chipmonk1
  • Score: 7

12:50pm Wed 13 Aug 14

BarnetSaint says...

Reed is out of his depth.
We have sold proven quality, this is an abysmal buy for the money.
Check out his scoring record at reading, west brom and hull.
Sorry but this is a panic buy and not good enough.
Would be delighted to be proven wrong, if he gets 10 league goals I'll be amazed.
Shocking VFM
Reed is out of his depth. We have sold proven quality, this is an abysmal buy for the money. Check out his scoring record at reading, west brom and hull. Sorry but this is a panic buy and not good enough. Would be delighted to be proven wrong, if he gets 10 league goals I'll be amazed. Shocking VFM BarnetSaint
  • Score: -20

12:50pm Wed 13 Aug 14

PaulSnook says...

What a waste of time effort and money
What a waste of time effort and money PaulSnook
  • Score: -14

12:50pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Saintcosser says...

partnership*
partnership* Saintcosser
  • Score: -2

12:51pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

Graham, North of Watford wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
Saint Clements wrote:
I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets."

Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?
Hmmmmmmmmm I wonder who the Muppet is , Your young copywriter or Ronald Koeman ?
Well there you go. If its negative it must be true if you believe that half these posters are Saints people.

He's now a Saint, he's one of us.

The very least he deserves is a chance to blossom.

There is no mystical split between Boardroom and Manager.

There is no conspiracy to trawl the market to buy 2nd. Rate players at over the top prices.

There are risks, there are dangers, there are bad decisions, there are judgement calls of pure genius.

Take your pick.

But, at least, give US a chance to make our own destinies. Surely, to Go, we all want the same thing
I think you may have missed my rather poor attempt at sarcasim and whit .......... I think I'll trust in RonKom thanks ....................
[quote][p][bold]Graham, North of Watford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets." Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?[/p][/quote]Hmmmmmmmmm I wonder who the Muppet is , Your young copywriter or Ronald Koeman ?[/p][/quote]Well there you go. If its negative it must be true if you believe that half these posters are Saints people. He's now a Saint, he's one of us. The very least he deserves is a chance to blossom. There is no mystical split between Boardroom and Manager. There is no conspiracy to trawl the market to buy 2nd. Rate players at over the top prices. There are risks, there are dangers, there are bad decisions, there are judgement calls of pure genius. Take your pick. But, at least, give US a chance to make our own destinies. Surely, to Go, we all want the same thing[/p][/quote]I think you may have missed my rather poor attempt at sarcasim and whit .......... I think I'll trust in RonKom thanks .................... Buddy SFC
  • Score: 2

12:58pm Wed 13 Aug 14

buckie says...

to be truthful i"m not sure that we will have a better team than last season but we do seem to be spending some of the money we received now I'm no accountant but there still seems to be a lot of money left over a lot of people going on about the cost of the training ground surely that would be covered by the sky money and then some i would of liked our business concluded a lot earlier than now surely the board knew the situation before the departed left so why not im saying get all the targets signed up but surely put fellers out to discuss our targets and not as it seems to be offering silly money for players but what do i know im only a season ticket holder of over 30 years and i will be till my dying day
to be truthful i"m not sure that we will have a better team than last season but we do seem to be spending some of the money we received now I'm no accountant but there still seems to be a lot of money left over a lot of people going on about the cost of the training ground surely that would be covered by the sky money and then some i would of liked our business concluded a lot earlier than now surely the board knew the situation before the departed left so why not im saying get all the targets signed up but surely put fellers out to discuss our targets and not as it seems to be offering silly money for players but what do i know im only a season ticket holder of over 30 years and i will be till my dying day buckie
  • Score: -2

12:59pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Mush On The Beach says...

Welcome to the Saints Shane Long.
I thought Long and Jelavic were shrewd signings by Bruce for Hull last year helping keep their heads above the drop zone. I don’t see it as an inspired signing for us but I also don’t see it as a debacle. He looked good in the Baggies team that run us ragged home and away 2 seasons ago.
We have paid top dollar by the sound of it but so be it, time is not on our side.

The clear and present danger for me is how long it takes to gel all these new arrivals into a team that has the right mentality on and off the pitch. Strong leadership is required by our new captain and existing senior pros.
Welcome to the Saints Shane Long. I thought Long and Jelavic were shrewd signings by Bruce for Hull last year helping keep their heads above the drop zone. I don’t see it as an inspired signing for us but I also don’t see it as a debacle. He looked good in the Baggies team that run us ragged home and away 2 seasons ago. We have paid top dollar by the sound of it but so be it, time is not on our side. The clear and present danger for me is how long it takes to gel all these new arrivals into a team that has the right mentality on and off the pitch. Strong leadership is required by our new captain and existing senior pros. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 9

12:59pm Wed 13 Aug 14

TGodSFC says...

Big Mac wrote:
Off subject, but does anyone know if Morgan is back training yet?
Yes he is, since monday
[quote][p][bold]Big Mac[/bold] wrote: Off subject, but does anyone know if Morgan is back training yet?[/p][/quote]Yes he is, since monday TGodSFC
  • Score: 6

1:01pm Wed 13 Aug 14

JanisB says...

We can't change the past 2 painful months, sadly it has happened.
So we all have to look forward.
COME ON you Mighty Saints and silence that Anfield crowd on Sunday!!
We can't change the past 2 painful months, sadly it has happened. So we all have to look forward. COME ON you Mighty Saints and silence that Anfield crowd on Sunday!! JanisB
  • Score: 8

1:01pm Wed 13 Aug 14

BracknellSaint says...

Saints n Winners wrote:
Ozmosis wrote:
It seems a heavy price tag but, knowing that we have money due to player sales, clubs were always going to hold us to ransom.
I wonder how much lower the tag would have been if had he been bought earlier? We are now desperate - so the price is high.

If he bags his normal goals (9 or 10), then. Pelle, Taider and Tadic together net 20 (they are new to this league) between them will be satisfactory. That leaves Ramirez and the rest of the team to get the other goals. I cant see us getting 50 goals this year, but I would like to be proven wrong.

Possibly the most interesting bit of this story is how long it takes Steve Bruce to get a replacement. Probably not "Long" and the board should be watching this bit.
I'd hope Pelle, Taider and Tadic get more than 20..
Pelle ought to be about 13-14, Tadic 5-6, and then JRod(when fit) could gt double figures in second half, Ramirez and JWP should benefit from getting more of the free kicks, as well as key roles this year without Liellana, and with corners etc too ,think we'll be ok.
Just hope the new Romanian is good, and that Forster makes us stronger at the back
[quote][p][bold]Saints n Winners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ozmosis[/bold] wrote: It seems a heavy price tag but, knowing that we have money due to player sales, clubs were always going to hold us to ransom.[/p][/quote]I wonder how much lower the tag would have been if had he been bought earlier? We are now desperate - so the price is high. If he bags his normal goals (9 or 10), then. Pelle, Taider and Tadic together net 20 (they are new to this league) between them will be satisfactory. That leaves Ramirez and the rest of the team to get the other goals. I cant see us getting 50 goals this year, but I would like to be proven wrong. Possibly the most interesting bit of this story is how long it takes Steve Bruce to get a replacement. Probably not "Long" and the board should be watching this bit.[/p][/quote]I'd hope Pelle, Taider and Tadic get more than 20.. Pelle ought to be about 13-14, Tadic 5-6, and then JRod(when fit) could gt double figures in second half, Ramirez and JWP should benefit from getting more of the free kicks, as well as key roles this year without Liellana, and with corners etc too ,think we'll be ok. Just hope the new Romanian is good, and that Forster makes us stronger at the back BracknellSaint
  • Score: 5

1:04pm Wed 13 Aug 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

Lot's of people think the price tag is a bit steep but he's a top class footballer, experienced International and we'll have him in his prime...

He might feel he has a bit to prove to justify the price, which is good in a way and I wouldn't be surprised if he bangs one or two past Scousehampton on Sunday!
Lot's of people think the price tag is a bit steep but he's a top class footballer, experienced International and we'll have him in his prime... He might feel he has a bit to prove to justify the price, which is good in a way and I wouldn't be surprised if he bangs one or two past Scousehampton on Sunday! SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: 15

1:04pm Wed 13 Aug 14

TGodSFC says...

BarnetSaint wrote:
Reed is out of his depth.
We have sold proven quality, this is an abysmal buy for the money.
Check out his scoring record at reading, west brom and hull.
Sorry but this is a panic buy and not good enough.
Would be delighted to be proven wrong, if he gets 10 league goals I'll be amazed.
Shocking VFM
How can you keep players that don't want to wear the shirt!? Even if they were taleted, their attitude stunk! I think you will be amazed.
[quote][p][bold]BarnetSaint[/bold] wrote: Reed is out of his depth. We have sold proven quality, this is an abysmal buy for the money. Check out his scoring record at reading, west brom and hull. Sorry but this is a panic buy and not good enough. Would be delighted to be proven wrong, if he gets 10 league goals I'll be amazed. Shocking VFM[/p][/quote]How can you keep players that don't want to wear the shirt!? Even if they were taleted, their attitude stunk! I think you will be amazed. TGodSFC
  • Score: 10

1:06pm Wed 13 Aug 14

milton road says...

bartley41 wrote:
We must not forget that Cortese left the Club owing Millions on the Staple wood development and unpaid transfer fees, this had to be repaid first..

The easiest thing in life is to spend money that is not yours!

Not easy but just remain positive, after the first ten games we will all have s a better idea.
Okay the transfer monies yes I agree, but that is pretty normal in the Premier league, most teams only pay a percentage and then the rest later.
As for the construction of Staplewood most of that would of been paid as they went on monthly basis that is how these things work. It was as I understand a two year contract that started in 2012-2013, if I am wrong please correct me on date. Our losses for that season were 7 million with a 76 million turnover, one of the lowest debts for the season in the Premiership. So works for Staplewood to that point would of been included. This year's expected turnover was 114 million far higher. Hence Kruger stated that the club is strong financially and all money from transfers will be plowed back into same.
The construction of Staplewood doubled, technology changes all the time. We have one of the finest training facilities in the world and one of the most up to date in technology. We also have 12 pitches that cover every type of grass used in the Premier and are used to that consistency. Those pitches do make a difference to your game. Some have a mix of artificial turf as well others have different grass types.
But common yes I agree KL had a right as owner to get hold of the finances. Yet the legacy that Cortese left will be felt in this club for the next decade or more don't beat him over the head for it.
However much we feel disappointed in what has happened with our team, Every dad and every boy will know they can come to Southampton and get a real chance, and from there the best way to be noted and get a transfer to one for the best clubs in the world and one day just maybe they won't feel the need to leave. Either way Saints win.
[quote][p][bold]bartley41[/bold] wrote: We must not forget that Cortese left the Club owing Millions on the Staple wood development and unpaid transfer fees, this had to be repaid first.. The easiest thing in life is to spend money that is not yours! Not easy but just remain positive, after the first ten games we will all have s a better idea.[/p][/quote]Okay the transfer monies yes I agree, but that is pretty normal in the Premier league, most teams only pay a percentage and then the rest later. As for the construction of Staplewood most of that would of been paid as they went on monthly basis that is how these things work. It was as I understand a two year contract that started in 2012-2013, if I am wrong please correct me on date. Our losses for that season were 7 million with a 76 million turnover, one of the lowest debts for the season in the Premiership. So works for Staplewood to that point would of been included. This year's expected turnover was 114 million far higher. Hence Kruger stated that the club is strong financially and all money from transfers will be plowed back into same. The construction of Staplewood doubled, technology changes all the time. We have one of the finest training facilities in the world and one of the most up to date in technology. We also have 12 pitches that cover every type of grass used in the Premier and are used to that consistency. Those pitches do make a difference to your game. Some have a mix of artificial turf as well others have different grass types. But common yes I agree KL had a right as owner to get hold of the finances. Yet the legacy that Cortese left will be felt in this club for the next decade or more don't beat him over the head for it. However much we feel disappointed in what has happened with our team, Every dad and every boy will know they can come to Southampton and get a real chance, and from there the best way to be noted and get a transfer to one for the best clubs in the world and one day just maybe they won't feel the need to leave. Either way Saints win. milton road
  • Score: 11

1:07pm Wed 13 Aug 14

bloke from bitterene park says...

12.5 million ? really ? well done hull .
12.5 million ? really ? well done hull . bloke from bitterene park
  • Score: -9

1:08pm Wed 13 Aug 14

bullsbags says...

Tony Robertson wrote:
SaintJD wrote, inter alia : "Replacing the likes of Sharpe, Guly, Osvaldo, several others, and particularly Rickie for a combined fee of 4M is where the real problem lies."
I think the real problem is that we no longer have a TEAM.

Tony Robertson, Stranraer
Go and support your local team in the Scottish muppet league you obnoxious little pr!ck
[quote][p][bold]Tony Robertson[/bold] wrote: SaintJD wrote, inter alia : "Replacing the likes of Sharpe, Guly, Osvaldo, several others, and particularly Rickie for a combined fee of 4M is where the real problem lies." I think the real problem is that we no longer have a TEAM. Tony Robertson, Stranraer[/p][/quote]Go and support your local team in the Scottish muppet league you obnoxious little pr!ck bullsbags
  • Score: 1

1:10pm Wed 13 Aug 14

buggerlugseng says...

techsture wrote:
£12.5 million? Hull must be chuckling all the way to the bank. This is the most ridiculous transfer of the summer.

If we cannot find a younger, hungrier striker for less money then the so called "world class scouting system" All need to be fired.
Guly do prado?
[quote][p][bold]techsture[/bold] wrote: £12.5 million? Hull must be chuckling all the way to the bank. This is the most ridiculous transfer of the summer. If we cannot find a younger, hungrier striker for less money then the so called "world class scouting system" All need to be fired.[/p][/quote]Guly do prado? buggerlugseng
  • Score: -2

1:11pm Wed 13 Aug 14

RED & WHITE..RED & WHITE says...

Saint Clements wrote:
I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets."

Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?
Go support a plastic team then.....don't need your negative comments on here as we should excited and we have learned a few harsh lessons on the way....but I for one think we are going be in the top flight for a very long time....dare I say we will one day be a force in Europe in the next 4/5 seasons.....I'm loving being a saints fan LOVE IT !!!!!!!

Remember when we were at the dell then coming to St Marys always struggling.....I'd say them days are well over.....teams FEAR us now....!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets." Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?[/p][/quote]Go support a plastic team then.....don't need your negative comments on here as we should excited and we have learned a few harsh lessons on the way....but I for one think we are going be in the top flight for a very long time....dare I say we will one day be a force in Europe in the next 4/5 seasons.....I'm loving being a saints fan LOVE IT !!!!!!! Remember when we were at the dell then coming to St Marys always struggling.....I'd say them days are well over.....teams FEAR us now....!!!! RED & WHITE..RED & WHITE
  • Score: 10

1:13pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Georgethepie says...

This transfer should help the southampton situation. Not only do other clubs know we have money but now they know we will pay big money for average players.
Honestly could we not have paid the same for a someone like Ings someone with a lot brighter future or a lot less for someone like wickham or better still given Sharp a chance and saved the money for a decent centre back.
I wish him lots of luck but can't help feel he won't offer us much more than billy could have done.
Still I guess the board were buggered either way. Spend and waste money or dont spend and get accused of lacking ambition.
Still I do wonder who's picking and buying these players did Ronald really have long on his radar when he arrived at Saints probably not!!!!
This transfer should help the southampton situation. Not only do other clubs know we have money but now they know we will pay big money for average players. Honestly could we not have paid the same for a someone like Ings someone with a lot brighter future or a lot less for someone like wickham or better still given Sharp a chance and saved the money for a decent centre back. I wish him lots of luck but can't help feel he won't offer us much more than billy could have done. Still I guess the board were buggered either way. Spend and waste money or dont spend and get accused of lacking ambition. Still I do wonder who's picking and buying these players did Ronald really have long on his radar when he arrived at Saints probably not!!!! Georgethepie
  • Score: -5

1:15pm Wed 13 Aug 14

redandy10 says...

Saints n Winners wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Looking at national paper threads, the consensus seems to be that Hull City saw us coming.
They should have sorted it out weeks ago, and the price would have been lower. How long ago did RL leave?
Exactly!

They probably saw an anxious Les and started rubbing their hands! I get the feeling we settled on Long having got no joy from other targets.

As far as league goals go he has never got into double figures in a season. If you pay 12 and a half million you'd hope he could at least get you 12 goals.

Good luck to him, and maybe he lay a lot on a plate for Pelle!!!
[quote][p][bold]Saints n Winners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: Looking at national paper threads, the consensus seems to be that Hull City saw us coming.[/p][/quote]They should have sorted it out weeks ago, and the price would have been lower. How long ago did RL leave?[/p][/quote]Exactly! They probably saw an anxious Les and started rubbing their hands! I get the feeling we settled on Long having got no joy from other targets. As far as league goals go he has never got into double figures in a season. If you pay 12 and a half million you'd hope he could at least get you 12 goals. Good luck to him, and maybe he lay a lot on a plate for Pelle!!! redandy10
  • Score: -7

1:21pm Wed 13 Aug 14

redandy10 says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
Welcome to the Saints Shane Long.
I thought Long and Jelavic were shrewd signings by Bruce for Hull last year helping keep their heads above the drop zone. I don’t see it as an inspired signing for us but I also don’t see it as a debacle. He looked good in the Baggies team that run us ragged home and away 2 seasons ago.
We have paid top dollar by the sound of it but so be it, time is not on our side.

The clear and present danger for me is how long it takes to gel all these new arrivals into a team that has the right mentality on and off the pitch. Strong leadership is required by our new captain and existing senior pros.
I agree Mush!

It's not a debacle signing, but we paid over the odds. And i think you are spot on about the team needing time to gel. There are going to be a fair few new partnerships that will need time to develop and gel.

All in all though we made some good signings this summer. I can see Tadic being our stand out player this season.
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: Welcome to the Saints Shane Long. I thought Long and Jelavic were shrewd signings by Bruce for Hull last year helping keep their heads above the drop zone. I don’t see it as an inspired signing for us but I also don’t see it as a debacle. He looked good in the Baggies team that run us ragged home and away 2 seasons ago. We have paid top dollar by the sound of it but so be it, time is not on our side. The clear and present danger for me is how long it takes to gel all these new arrivals into a team that has the right mentality on and off the pitch. Strong leadership is required by our new captain and existing senior pros.[/p][/quote]I agree Mush! It's not a debacle signing, but we paid over the odds. And i think you are spot on about the team needing time to gel. There are going to be a fair few new partnerships that will need time to develop and gel. All in all though we made some good signings this summer. I can see Tadic being our stand out player this season. redandy10
  • Score: 7

1:22pm Wed 13 Aug 14

saints fan #1 says...

If all players gel and become on form from the start, we have one hell of a fire power. We need to strengthen the back and play like we did last season we'll be all over the prem and the pundits and the media will always say how poor the munures and cities played after we batter them.
Hope to see Saints 3- Liverhampton 0
Pelle 2, Long 1 Loveren (Red)
be a great start COYRW
If all players gel and become on form from the start, we have one hell of a fire power. We need to strengthen the back and play like we did last season we'll be all over the prem and the pundits and the media will always say how poor the munures and cities played after we batter them. Hope to see Saints 3- Liverhampton 0 Pelle 2, Long 1 Loveren (Red) be a great start COYRW saints fan #1
  • Score: 12

1:25pm Wed 13 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Some interesting thoughts on Shane Long from fans and former team mates following his move from West Brom. Also interesting to note that his previous transfer fee was paid when his contract was entering it's final year. So considering the eventual fee is probably quite a bit shy of that being reported, this is not the disaster many are suggesting it is. And, at Hull, if he wasn't scoring, he was setting up his strike partner for several vital goals.


http://www.expressan
dstar.com/sport/west
-bromwich-albion-fc/
2014/03/24/ben-foste
r-hits-out-at-west-b
rom-over-shane-long-
sale/

http://metro.co.uk/2
014/03/23/why-on-ear
th-did-west-brom-let
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r-hull-city-4673674/
Some interesting thoughts on Shane Long from fans and former team mates following his move from West Brom. Also interesting to note that his previous transfer fee was paid when his contract was entering it's final year. So considering the eventual fee is probably quite a bit shy of that being reported, this is not the disaster many are suggesting it is. And, at Hull, if he wasn't scoring, he was setting up his strike partner for several vital goals. http://www.expressan dstar.com/sport/west -bromwich-albion-fc/ 2014/03/24/ben-foste r-hits-out-at-west-b rom-over-shane-long- sale/ http://metro.co.uk/2 014/03/23/why-on-ear th-did-west-brom-let -shane-long-leave-fo r-hull-city-4673674/ SaintJD
  • Score: 6

1:32pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Ozmosis says...

Tony Robertson wrote:
Folkestone Saint wrote:
Never liked him as he is a total wind-up merchant and a bit of a diver, but then maybe we were too nice last season and thats why we "only" finished 8th
Heartily agree; he is an abject disgrace to football. Winding-up players and referees alike, continually diving. Does not fit the 'Southampton way'. As for the price, ridiculous, makes SRL worth about £50 millions.
He would fit in well at Diverpiddle.

Tony Robertson, Stranraer
Don't worry - the first time he gets a red RK will be on him like a ton of bricks. I doubt he will take the risk after that!
[quote][p][bold]Tony Robertson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: Never liked him as he is a total wind-up merchant and a bit of a diver, but then maybe we were too nice last season and thats why we "only" finished 8th[/p][/quote]Heartily agree; he is an abject disgrace to football. Winding-up players and referees alike, continually diving. Does not fit the 'Southampton way'. As for the price, ridiculous, makes SRL worth about £50 millions. He would fit in well at Diverpiddle. Tony Robertson, Stranraer[/p][/quote]Don't worry - the first time he gets a red RK will be on him like a ton of bricks. I doubt he will take the risk after that! Ozmosis
  • Score: 4

1:40pm Wed 13 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Ozmosis wrote:
Tony Robertson wrote:
Folkestone Saint wrote:
Never liked him as he is a total wind-up merchant and a bit of a diver, but then maybe we were too nice last season and thats why we "only" finished 8th
Heartily agree; he is an abject disgrace to football. Winding-up players and referees alike, continually diving. Does not fit the 'Southampton way'. As for the price, ridiculous, makes SRL worth about £50 millions.
He would fit in well at Diverpiddle.

Tony Robertson, Stranraer
Don't worry - the first time he gets a red RK will be on him like a ton of bricks. I doubt he will take the risk after that!
Who are you talking about?
[quote][p][bold]Ozmosis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tony Robertson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: Never liked him as he is a total wind-up merchant and a bit of a diver, but then maybe we were too nice last season and thats why we "only" finished 8th[/p][/quote]Heartily agree; he is an abject disgrace to football. Winding-up players and referees alike, continually diving. Does not fit the 'Southampton way'. As for the price, ridiculous, makes SRL worth about £50 millions. He would fit in well at Diverpiddle. Tony Robertson, Stranraer[/p][/quote]Don't worry - the first time he gets a red RK will be on him like a ton of bricks. I doubt he will take the risk after that![/p][/quote]Who are you talking about? fascia123
  • Score: -2

1:45pm Wed 13 Aug 14

st.ranger says...

Mmmm; Andors Townsend or Aaron lennon at 10m, or Shane long at 12.5m... difficult decision?

How much does that make J-Rod worth? about 45m I reckon...... better start paying him 250k pw.....

What would Rupert do?
Mmmm; Andors Townsend or Aaron lennon at 10m, or Shane long at 12.5m... difficult decision? How much does that make J-Rod worth? about 45m I reckon...... better start paying him 250k pw..... What would Rupert do? st.ranger
  • Score: -5

1:48pm Wed 13 Aug 14

GHamilton says...

Top quality striker is what we needed, not a Suarez, not a Messi, not a Sturridge, just someone who knows where the net is....I, suddenly dont feel well......Nuuurrsse!
! Nuuuurrrrrrsssse!!!
Top quality striker is what we needed, not a Suarez, not a Messi, not a Sturridge, just someone who knows where the net is....I, suddenly dont feel well......Nuuurrsse! ! Nuuuurrrrrrsssse!!! GHamilton
  • Score: -5

1:48pm Wed 13 Aug 14

just kidding says...

Wow we have just signed Holland's.. Facilicom!








"The UK arm of the Dutch-owned Facilicom Services Group has been chosen by Southampton Football Club to ensure that the club’s grounds and 32,000-capacity St Mary’s Stadium are clean and welcoming for fans and visitors alike throughout the 2014/15 season. - See more at: http://www.fm-world.
co.uk/news/business-
news/facilicom-score
s-with-saints-partne
rship/#sthash.KSuHyI
x7.dpuf "

I'm sorry guys, I just couldn't resist it.

Welcome Shane Long , stick it to em mate.
Wow we have just signed Holland's.. Facilicom! "The UK arm of the Dutch-owned Facilicom Services Group has been chosen by Southampton Football Club to ensure that the club’s grounds and 32,000-capacity St Mary’s Stadium are clean and welcoming for fans and visitors alike throughout the 2014/15 season. - See more at: http://www.fm-world. co.uk/news/business- news/facilicom-score s-with-saints-partne rship/#sthash.KSuHyI x7.dpuf " I'm sorry guys, I just couldn't resist it. Welcome Shane Long , stick it to em mate. just kidding
  • Score: 3

1:58pm Wed 13 Aug 14

miltonarcher says...

The Hull supporters feel that Bruce has somebody better lined up. Having said that, they seemed to rate his overall contribution but not his strike rate.
The Hull supporters feel that Bruce has somebody better lined up. Having said that, they seemed to rate his overall contribution but not his strike rate. miltonarcher
  • Score: 2

2:00pm Wed 13 Aug 14

miltonarcher says...

Georgethepie wrote:
This transfer should help the southampton situation. Not only do other clubs know we have money but now they know we will pay big money for average players.
Honestly could we not have paid the same for a someone like Ings someone with a lot brighter future or a lot less for someone like wickham or better still given Sharp a chance and saved the money for a decent centre back.
I wish him lots of luck but can't help feel he won't offer us much more than billy could have done.
Still I guess the board were buggered either way. Spend and waste money or dont spend and get accused of lacking ambition.
Still I do wonder who's picking and buying these players did Ronald really have long on his radar when he arrived at Saints probably not!!!!
Why Ings for pities sake, he is ordinary. Set your sights a bit higher.
[quote][p][bold]Georgethepie[/bold] wrote: This transfer should help the southampton situation. Not only do other clubs know we have money but now they know we will pay big money for average players. Honestly could we not have paid the same for a someone like Ings someone with a lot brighter future or a lot less for someone like wickham or better still given Sharp a chance and saved the money for a decent centre back. I wish him lots of luck but can't help feel he won't offer us much more than billy could have done. Still I guess the board were buggered either way. Spend and waste money or dont spend and get accused of lacking ambition. Still I do wonder who's picking and buying these players did Ronald really have long on his radar when he arrived at Saints probably not!!!![/p][/quote]Why Ings for pities sake, he is ordinary. Set your sights a bit higher. miltonarcher
  • Score: 2

2:02pm Wed 13 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

st.ranger wrote:
Mmmm; Andors Townsend or Aaron lennon at 10m, or Shane long at 12.5m... difficult decision?

How much does that make J-Rod worth? about 45m I reckon...... better start paying him 250k pw.....

What would Rupert do?
How have you worked. JRods value out?

If you refer to Rupert Lowe he wouldn't of bought anyone but would paid himself a big fat dividend.
[quote][p][bold]st.ranger[/bold] wrote: Mmmm; Andors Townsend or Aaron lennon at 10m, or Shane long at 12.5m... difficult decision? How much does that make J-Rod worth? about 45m I reckon...... better start paying him 250k pw..... What would Rupert do?[/p][/quote]How have you worked. JRods value out? If you refer to Rupert Lowe he wouldn't of bought anyone but would paid himself a big fat dividend. fascia123
  • Score: 6

2:10pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Mush On The Beach says...

redandy10 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Welcome to the Saints Shane Long.
I thought Long and Jelavic were shrewd signings by Bruce for Hull last year helping keep their heads above the drop zone. I don’t see it as an inspired signing for us but I also don’t see it as a debacle. He looked good in the Baggies team that run us ragged home and away 2 seasons ago.
We have paid top dollar by the sound of it but so be it, time is not on our side.

The clear and present danger for me is how long it takes to gel all these new arrivals into a team that has the right mentality on and off the pitch. Strong leadership is required by our new captain and existing senior pros.
I agree Mush!

It's not a debacle signing, but we paid over the odds. And i think you are spot on about the team needing time to gel. There are going to be a fair few new partnerships that will need time to develop and gel.

All in all though we made some good signings this summer. I can see Tadic being our stand out player this season.
Yep, I hope Ron is able to weave his magic and get some class performances out of these new lads ASAP. It really is a tough one to gauge with any clarity at this stage as is to what is in store for us this season and what our new level is.
I’ve heard a few pundits predicting relegation for us but I don’t see that happening, I’m sure we will be closer to the middle of the pack.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: Welcome to the Saints Shane Long. I thought Long and Jelavic were shrewd signings by Bruce for Hull last year helping keep their heads above the drop zone. I don’t see it as an inspired signing for us but I also don’t see it as a debacle. He looked good in the Baggies team that run us ragged home and away 2 seasons ago. We have paid top dollar by the sound of it but so be it, time is not on our side. The clear and present danger for me is how long it takes to gel all these new arrivals into a team that has the right mentality on and off the pitch. Strong leadership is required by our new captain and existing senior pros.[/p][/quote]I agree Mush! It's not a debacle signing, but we paid over the odds. And i think you are spot on about the team needing time to gel. There are going to be a fair few new partnerships that will need time to develop and gel. All in all though we made some good signings this summer. I can see Tadic being our stand out player this season.[/p][/quote]Yep, I hope Ron is able to weave his magic and get some class performances out of these new lads ASAP. It really is a tough one to gauge with any clarity at this stage as is to what is in store for us this season and what our new level is. I’ve heard a few pundits predicting relegation for us but I don’t see that happening, I’m sure we will be closer to the middle of the pack. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 1

2:11pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Roman Centurion says...

BarnetSaint wrote:
Reed is out of his depth.
We have sold proven quality, this is an abysmal buy for the money.
Check out his scoring record at reading, west brom and hull.
Sorry but this is a panic buy and not good enough.
Would be delighted to be proven wrong, if he gets 10 league goals I'll be amazed.
Shocking VFM
Agree his stats are not good, I wouldn't be against him being in the squad as a bit of cover but 12.5 million is outrageous.
[quote][p][bold]BarnetSaint[/bold] wrote: Reed is out of his depth. We have sold proven quality, this is an abysmal buy for the money. Check out his scoring record at reading, west brom and hull. Sorry but this is a panic buy and not good enough. Would be delighted to be proven wrong, if he gets 10 league goals I'll be amazed. Shocking VFM[/p][/quote]Agree his stats are not good, I wouldn't be against him being in the squad as a bit of cover but 12.5 million is outrageous. Roman Centurion
  • Score: 0

2:16pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Ozmosis says...

fascia123 wrote:
Ozmosis wrote:
Tony Robertson wrote:
Folkestone Saint wrote:
Never liked him as he is a total wind-up merchant and a bit of a diver, but then maybe we were too nice last season and thats why we "only" finished 8th
Heartily agree; he is an abject disgrace to football. Winding-up players and referees alike, continually diving. Does not fit the 'Southampton way'. As for the price, ridiculous, makes SRL worth about £50 millions.
He would fit in well at Diverpiddle.

Tony Robertson, Stranraer
Don't worry - the first time he gets a red RK will be on him like a ton of bricks. I doubt he will take the risk after that!
Who are you talking about?
Shane Long. If he dives and winds players up resulting in a red card or two I'd fully expect RK to give him a right earbending, on pain of death if he did it again. Schneiderlin was good at "taking one for the team", and hence got a few yellows, but blatantly going after players rather than just fouling to stop a shot on goal is not on.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ozmosis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tony Robertson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: Never liked him as he is a total wind-up merchant and a bit of a diver, but then maybe we were too nice last season and thats why we "only" finished 8th[/p][/quote]Heartily agree; he is an abject disgrace to football. Winding-up players and referees alike, continually diving. Does not fit the 'Southampton way'. As for the price, ridiculous, makes SRL worth about £50 millions. He would fit in well at Diverpiddle. Tony Robertson, Stranraer[/p][/quote]Don't worry - the first time he gets a red RK will be on him like a ton of bricks. I doubt he will take the risk after that![/p][/quote]Who are you talking about?[/p][/quote]Shane Long. If he dives and winds players up resulting in a red card or two I'd fully expect RK to give him a right earbending, on pain of death if he did it again. Schneiderlin was good at "taking one for the team", and hence got a few yellows, but blatantly going after players rather than just fouling to stop a shot on goal is not on. Ozmosis
  • Score: 0

2:16pm Wed 13 Aug 14

InsideOutCat says...

Can someone please explain why Shane Long is a waste of money while Danny Ings, who has achieved a lot less with a succession for far more rubbish sides, is apparently our unsigned saviour and the answer to every problem?
Can someone please explain why Shane Long is a waste of money while Danny Ings, who has achieved a lot less with a succession for far more rubbish sides, is apparently our unsigned saviour and the answer to every problem? InsideOutCat
  • Score: 6

2:19pm Wed 13 Aug 14

st.ranger says...

st.ranger wrote:
Mmmm; Andors Townsend or Aaron lennon at 10m, or Shane long at 12.5m... difficult decision?

How much does that make J-Rod worth? about 45m I reckon...... better start paying him 250k pw.....

What would Rupert do?
I have to admit he was the only danger they posed last year, or WBA on prior matches - he is difficult for the defence to get a hold of, even Hoover!

Not sure is worth a Lennon or Townsend plus 20% at any time though.
[quote][p][bold]st.ranger[/bold] wrote: Mmmm; Andors Townsend or Aaron lennon at 10m, or Shane long at 12.5m... difficult decision? How much does that make J-Rod worth? about 45m I reckon...... better start paying him 250k pw..... What would Rupert do?[/p][/quote]I have to admit he was the only danger they posed last year, or WBA on prior matches - he is difficult for the defence to get a hold of, even Hoover! Not sure is worth a Lennon or Townsend plus 20% at any time though. st.ranger
  • Score: 3

2:20pm Wed 13 Aug 14

st.ranger says...

InsideOutCat wrote:
Can someone please explain why Shane Long is a waste of money while Danny Ings, who has achieved a lot less with a succession for far more rubbish sides, is apparently our unsigned saviour and the answer to every problem?
who?
[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: Can someone please explain why Shane Long is a waste of money while Danny Ings, who has achieved a lot less with a succession for far more rubbish sides, is apparently our unsigned saviour and the answer to every problem?[/p][/quote]who? st.ranger
  • Score: -1

2:23pm Wed 13 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

miltonarcher wrote:
The Hull supporters feel that Bruce has somebody better lined up. Having said that, they seemed to rate his overall contribution but not his strike rate.
Yeah, but having said that, if Liverpool or Man Utd fans came on here to get a view of how good their new players are they'd discover that all of them were complete dog sh1te.

My point is, take the views of spurned football fans with a pinch of salt.
[quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: The Hull supporters feel that Bruce has somebody better lined up. Having said that, they seemed to rate his overall contribution but not his strike rate.[/p][/quote]Yeah, but having said that, if Liverpool or Man Utd fans came on here to get a view of how good their new players are they'd discover that all of them were complete dog sh1te. My point is, take the views of spurned football fans with a pinch of salt. SaintJD
  • Score: 1

2:25pm Wed 13 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Ozmosis wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Ozmosis wrote:
Tony Robertson wrote:
Folkestone Saint wrote:
Never liked him as he is a total wind-up merchant and a bit of a diver, but then maybe we were too nice last season and thats why we "only" finished 8th
Heartily agree; he is an abject disgrace to football. Winding-up players and referees alike, continually diving. Does not fit the 'Southampton way'. As for the price, ridiculous, makes SRL worth about £50 millions.
He would fit in well at Diverpiddle.

Tony Robertson, Stranraer
Don't worry - the first time he gets a red RK will be on him like a ton of bricks. I doubt he will take the risk after that!
Who are you talking about?
Shane Long. If he dives and winds players up resulting in a red card or two I'd fully expect RK to give him a right earbending, on pain of death if he did it again. Schneiderlin was good at "taking one for the team", and hence got a few yellows, but blatantly going after players rather than just fouling to stop a shot on goal is not on.
Personally I don't give a cr@p if he dives or winds opposition players up. Seem to remember Jay Rod earning us three very dubious points at Villa - can't remember too many people ripping up their season tickets or burning effigies in the street.
[quote][p][bold]Ozmosis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ozmosis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tony Robertson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: Never liked him as he is a total wind-up merchant and a bit of a diver, but then maybe we were too nice last season and thats why we "only" finished 8th[/p][/quote]Heartily agree; he is an abject disgrace to football. Winding-up players and referees alike, continually diving. Does not fit the 'Southampton way'. As for the price, ridiculous, makes SRL worth about £50 millions. He would fit in well at Diverpiddle. Tony Robertson, Stranraer[/p][/quote]Don't worry - the first time he gets a red RK will be on him like a ton of bricks. I doubt he will take the risk after that![/p][/quote]Who are you talking about?[/p][/quote]Shane Long. If he dives and winds players up resulting in a red card or two I'd fully expect RK to give him a right earbending, on pain of death if he did it again. Schneiderlin was good at "taking one for the team", and hence got a few yellows, but blatantly going after players rather than just fouling to stop a shot on goal is not on.[/p][/quote]Personally I don't give a cr@p if he dives or winds opposition players up. Seem to remember Jay Rod earning us three very dubious points at Villa - can't remember too many people ripping up their season tickets or burning effigies in the street. SaintJD
  • Score: 3

2:26pm Wed 13 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Ozmosis wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Ozmosis wrote:
Tony Robertson wrote:
Folkestone Saint wrote:
Never liked him as he is a total wind-up merchant and a bit of a diver, but then maybe we were too nice last season and thats why we "only" finished 8th
Heartily agree; he is an abject disgrace to football. Winding-up players and referees alike, continually diving. Does not fit the 'Southampton way'. As for the price, ridiculous, makes SRL worth about £50 millions.
He would fit in well at Diverpiddle.

Tony Robertson, Stranraer
Don't worry - the first time he gets a red RK will be on him like a ton of bricks. I doubt he will take the risk after that!
Who are you talking about?
Shane Long. If he dives and winds players up resulting in a red card or two I'd fully expect RK to give him a right earbending, on pain of death if he did it again. Schneiderlin was good at "taking one for the team", and hence got a few yellows, but blatantly going after players rather than just fouling to stop a shot on goal is not on.
Appearances 146
Goals 28
Yellow cards 11
Red cards 0

These are his stats from one of the premiership sites, doesnt look as though his diving and discipline have been too much trouble.
[quote][p][bold]Ozmosis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ozmosis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tony Robertson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: Never liked him as he is a total wind-up merchant and a bit of a diver, but then maybe we were too nice last season and thats why we "only" finished 8th[/p][/quote]Heartily agree; he is an abject disgrace to football. Winding-up players and referees alike, continually diving. Does not fit the 'Southampton way'. As for the price, ridiculous, makes SRL worth about £50 millions. He would fit in well at Diverpiddle. Tony Robertson, Stranraer[/p][/quote]Don't worry - the first time he gets a red RK will be on him like a ton of bricks. I doubt he will take the risk after that![/p][/quote]Who are you talking about?[/p][/quote]Shane Long. If he dives and winds players up resulting in a red card or two I'd fully expect RK to give him a right earbending, on pain of death if he did it again. Schneiderlin was good at "taking one for the team", and hence got a few yellows, but blatantly going after players rather than just fouling to stop a shot on goal is not on.[/p][/quote]Appearances 146 Goals 28 Yellow cards 11 Red cards 0 These are his stats from one of the premiership sites, doesnt look as though his diving and discipline have been too much trouble. fascia123
  • Score: 2

2:29pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Saint Viking says...

During Saints first season back in the Premier League, West Brom had an excellent season & Shane Long was pivotal in their performances. I was very surprised when they sold him to Hull & West Brom were dreadful last season. The bottom line is we needed another striker desperately & if we paid slightly over the odds for him, so be it.

I'm fed up with the negativity from some Saints fans across the net, the players who have left are history. If they don't want to be here, then good riddance, particularly in Lovren's case. We've received good money for them & I'm confident that we will be competitive this season.

I felt with the team we had last season, that Saints underachieved under Pochettino & as we know, he had no Plan B. We threw away leads & started to leak goals alarmingly following the first ten games of the season. In 14 games against the teams above us, we won two of them, away to Liverpool & home to Everton. That simply wasn't good enough. Saints made Pochettino, not the other way round.
During Saints first season back in the Premier League, West Brom had an excellent season & Shane Long was pivotal in their performances. I was very surprised when they sold him to Hull & West Brom were dreadful last season. The bottom line is we needed another striker desperately & if we paid slightly over the odds for him, so be it. I'm fed up with the negativity from some Saints fans across the net, the players who have left are history. If they don't want to be here, then good riddance, particularly in Lovren's case. We've received good money for them & I'm confident that we will be competitive this season. I felt with the team we had last season, that Saints underachieved under Pochettino & as we know, he had no Plan B. We threw away leads & started to leak goals alarmingly following the first ten games of the season. In 14 games against the teams above us, we won two of them, away to Liverpool & home to Everton. That simply wasn't good enough. Saints made Pochettino, not the other way round. Saint Viking
  • Score: 19

2:30pm Wed 13 Aug 14

GHamilton says...

Insideoutcat.....wit
h the greatest respect I can explain why Shane Long a waste of £12 000 000......he's total rubbish!
Insideoutcat.....wit h the greatest respect I can explain why Shane Long a waste of £12 000 000......he's total rubbish! GHamilton
  • Score: -19

2:31pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Still, we've got our stripes back and that's what really matters isn't it?
Still, we've got our stripes back and that's what really matters isn't it? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -14

2:33pm Wed 13 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Georgethepie wrote:
This transfer should help the southampton situation. Not only do other clubs know we have money but now they know we will pay big money for average players.
Honestly could we not have paid the same for a someone like Ings someone with a lot brighter future or a lot less for someone like wickham or better still given Sharp a chance and saved the money for a decent centre back.
I wish him lots of luck but can't help feel he won't offer us much more than billy could have done.
Still I guess the board were buggered either way. Spend and waste money or dont spend and get accused of lacking ambition.
Still I do wonder who's picking and buying these players did Ronald really have long on his radar when he arrived at Saints probably not!!!!
Billy Sharp played (or didn't) under three managers: Koeman, Adkins and Pochettino. Clearly, though a nice guy, he did not impress any of them enough to earn any minutes on the pitch, regardless of how desperate we were. If he can't displace Guly on the bench under these managers do you not think that tells you something?

Silly thing is, had we just agreed a £12M fee for some bloke in the French league or a reserve from Serie A everyone would be p1ssing their pants with excitement saying we were going to win the league.

In fact, rewind 12 months and you'll see EXACTLY that.
[quote][p][bold]Georgethepie[/bold] wrote: This transfer should help the southampton situation. Not only do other clubs know we have money but now they know we will pay big money for average players. Honestly could we not have paid the same for a someone like Ings someone with a lot brighter future or a lot less for someone like wickham or better still given Sharp a chance and saved the money for a decent centre back. I wish him lots of luck but can't help feel he won't offer us much more than billy could have done. Still I guess the board were buggered either way. Spend and waste money or dont spend and get accused of lacking ambition. Still I do wonder who's picking and buying these players did Ronald really have long on his radar when he arrived at Saints probably not!!!![/p][/quote]Billy Sharp played (or didn't) under three managers: Koeman, Adkins and Pochettino. Clearly, though a nice guy, he did not impress any of them enough to earn any minutes on the pitch, regardless of how desperate we were. If he can't displace Guly on the bench under these managers do you not think that tells you something? Silly thing is, had we just agreed a £12M fee for some bloke in the French league or a reserve from Serie A everyone would be p1ssing their pants with excitement saying we were going to win the league. In fact, rewind 12 months and you'll see EXACTLY that. SaintJD
  • Score: 7

2:33pm Wed 13 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Saint Viking wrote:
During Saints first season back in the Premier League, West Brom had an excellent season & Shane Long was pivotal in their performances. I was very surprised when they sold him to Hull & West Brom were dreadful last season. The bottom line is we needed another striker desperately & if we paid slightly over the odds for him, so be it.

I'm fed up with the negativity from some Saints fans across the net, the players who have left are history. If they don't want to be here, then good riddance, particularly in Lovren's case. We've received good money for them & I'm confident that we will be competitive this season.

I felt with the team we had last season, that Saints underachieved under Pochettino & as we know, he had no Plan B. We threw away leads & started to leak goals alarmingly following the first ten games of the season. In 14 games against the teams above us, we won two of them, away to Liverpool & home to Everton. That simply wasn't good enough. Saints made Pochettino, not the other way round.
Well said, I posted weeks ago that Lovren was poor after he came back from injury and cost us the points on several occasions and if it wasn't for Fonte at times it would of been far worse, would you agree?
[quote][p][bold]Saint Viking[/bold] wrote: During Saints first season back in the Premier League, West Brom had an excellent season & Shane Long was pivotal in their performances. I was very surprised when they sold him to Hull & West Brom were dreadful last season. The bottom line is we needed another striker desperately & if we paid slightly over the odds for him, so be it. I'm fed up with the negativity from some Saints fans across the net, the players who have left are history. If they don't want to be here, then good riddance, particularly in Lovren's case. We've received good money for them & I'm confident that we will be competitive this season. I felt with the team we had last season, that Saints underachieved under Pochettino & as we know, he had no Plan B. We threw away leads & started to leak goals alarmingly following the first ten games of the season. In 14 games against the teams above us, we won two of them, away to Liverpool & home to Everton. That simply wasn't good enough. Saints made Pochettino, not the other way round.[/p][/quote]Well said, I posted weeks ago that Lovren was poor after he came back from injury and cost us the points on several occasions and if it wasn't for Fonte at times it would of been far worse, would you agree? fascia123
  • Score: 4

2:35pm Wed 13 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

SaintJD wrote:
Georgethepie wrote:
This transfer should help the southampton situation. Not only do other clubs know we have money but now they know we will pay big money for average players.
Honestly could we not have paid the same for a someone like Ings someone with a lot brighter future or a lot less for someone like wickham or better still given Sharp a chance and saved the money for a decent centre back.
I wish him lots of luck but can't help feel he won't offer us much more than billy could have done.
Still I guess the board were buggered either way. Spend and waste money or dont spend and get accused of lacking ambition.
Still I do wonder who's picking and buying these players did Ronald really have long on his radar when he arrived at Saints probably not!!!!
Billy Sharp played (or didn't) under three managers: Koeman, Adkins and Pochettino. Clearly, though a nice guy, he did not impress any of them enough to earn any minutes on the pitch, regardless of how desperate we were. If he can't displace Guly on the bench under these managers do you not think that tells you something?

Silly thing is, had we just agreed a £12M fee for some bloke in the French league or a reserve from Serie A everyone would be p1ssing their pants with excitement saying we were going to win the league.

In fact, rewind 12 months and you'll see EXACTLY that.
Spot on
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgethepie[/bold] wrote: This transfer should help the southampton situation. Not only do other clubs know we have money but now they know we will pay big money for average players. Honestly could we not have paid the same for a someone like Ings someone with a lot brighter future or a lot less for someone like wickham or better still given Sharp a chance and saved the money for a decent centre back. I wish him lots of luck but can't help feel he won't offer us much more than billy could have done. Still I guess the board were buggered either way. Spend and waste money or dont spend and get accused of lacking ambition. Still I do wonder who's picking and buying these players did Ronald really have long on his radar when he arrived at Saints probably not!!!![/p][/quote]Billy Sharp played (or didn't) under three managers: Koeman, Adkins and Pochettino. Clearly, though a nice guy, he did not impress any of them enough to earn any minutes on the pitch, regardless of how desperate we were. If he can't displace Guly on the bench under these managers do you not think that tells you something? Silly thing is, had we just agreed a £12M fee for some bloke in the French league or a reserve from Serie A everyone would be p1ssing their pants with excitement saying we were going to win the league. In fact, rewind 12 months and you'll see EXACTLY that.[/p][/quote]Spot on fascia123
  • Score: 4

2:35pm Wed 13 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

fascia123 wrote:
Saint Viking wrote:
During Saints first season back in the Premier League, West Brom had an excellent season & Shane Long was pivotal in their performances. I was very surprised when they sold him to Hull & West Brom were dreadful last season. The bottom line is we needed another striker desperately & if we paid slightly over the odds for him, so be it.

I'm fed up with the negativity from some Saints fans across the net, the players who have left are history. If they don't want to be here, then good riddance, particularly in Lovren's case. We've received good money for them & I'm confident that we will be competitive this season.

I felt with the team we had last season, that Saints underachieved under Pochettino & as we know, he had no Plan B. We threw away leads & started to leak goals alarmingly following the first ten games of the season. In 14 games against the teams above us, we won two of them, away to Liverpool & home to Everton. That simply wasn't good enough. Saints made Pochettino, not the other way round.
Well said, I posted weeks ago that Lovren was poor after he came back from injury and cost us the points on several occasions and if it wasn't for Fonte at times it would of been far worse, would you agree?
Don't forget though, he was daydreaming about Anfield at that point, as was Adam, bless.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Viking[/bold] wrote: During Saints first season back in the Premier League, West Brom had an excellent season & Shane Long was pivotal in their performances. I was very surprised when they sold him to Hull & West Brom were dreadful last season. The bottom line is we needed another striker desperately & if we paid slightly over the odds for him, so be it. I'm fed up with the negativity from some Saints fans across the net, the players who have left are history. If they don't want to be here, then good riddance, particularly in Lovren's case. We've received good money for them & I'm confident that we will be competitive this season. I felt with the team we had last season, that Saints underachieved under Pochettino & as we know, he had no Plan B. We threw away leads & started to leak goals alarmingly following the first ten games of the season. In 14 games against the teams above us, we won two of them, away to Liverpool & home to Everton. That simply wasn't good enough. Saints made Pochettino, not the other way round.[/p][/quote]Well said, I posted weeks ago that Lovren was poor after he came back from injury and cost us the points on several occasions and if it wasn't for Fonte at times it would of been far worse, would you agree?[/p][/quote]Don't forget though, he was daydreaming about Anfield at that point, as was Adam, bless. SaintJD
  • Score: 1

2:36pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Saints n Winners says...

No Sammy 2 cells today, and hardly any wums. It must a good news day.
No Sammy 2 cells today, and hardly any wums. It must a good news day. Saints n Winners
  • Score: 4

2:39pm Wed 13 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

SaintJD wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Saint Viking wrote:
During Saints first season back in the Premier League, West Brom had an excellent season & Shane Long was pivotal in their performances. I was very surprised when they sold him to Hull & West Brom were dreadful last season. The bottom line is we needed another striker desperately & if we paid slightly over the odds for him, so be it.

I'm fed up with the negativity from some Saints fans across the net, the players who have left are history. If they don't want to be here, then good riddance, particularly in Lovren's case. We've received good money for them & I'm confident that we will be competitive this season.

I felt with the team we had last season, that Saints underachieved under Pochettino & as we know, he had no Plan B. We threw away leads & started to leak goals alarmingly following the first ten games of the season. In 14 games against the teams above us, we won two of them, away to Liverpool & home to Everton. That simply wasn't good enough. Saints made Pochettino, not the other way round.
Well said, I posted weeks ago that Lovren was poor after he came back from injury and cost us the points on several occasions and if it wasn't for Fonte at times it would of been far worse, would you agree?
Don't forget though, he was daydreaming about Anfield at that point, as was Adam, bless.
Yes it makes you wonder, when you look at some of the performances after dearNC went, especially the FA Cup showing just what was going on.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Viking[/bold] wrote: During Saints first season back in the Premier League, West Brom had an excellent season & Shane Long was pivotal in their performances. I was very surprised when they sold him to Hull & West Brom were dreadful last season. The bottom line is we needed another striker desperately & if we paid slightly over the odds for him, so be it. I'm fed up with the negativity from some Saints fans across the net, the players who have left are history. If they don't want to be here, then good riddance, particularly in Lovren's case. We've received good money for them & I'm confident that we will be competitive this season. I felt with the team we had last season, that Saints underachieved under Pochettino & as we know, he had no Plan B. We threw away leads & started to leak goals alarmingly following the first ten games of the season. In 14 games against the teams above us, we won two of them, away to Liverpool & home to Everton. That simply wasn't good enough. Saints made Pochettino, not the other way round.[/p][/quote]Well said, I posted weeks ago that Lovren was poor after he came back from injury and cost us the points on several occasions and if it wasn't for Fonte at times it would of been far worse, would you agree?[/p][/quote]Don't forget though, he was daydreaming about Anfield at that point, as was Adam, bless.[/p][/quote]Yes it makes you wonder, when you look at some of the performances after dearNC went, especially the FA Cup showing just what was going on. fascia123
  • Score: 7

2:42pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Chicago Saint says...

gadge60 wrote:
For me this is great news. I have listened to the doom merchants whining all summer. Gradually RK has built a new and excting squad. In the development of talent we are second to none. The highest ever transfer came from out Academy. I have to laugh at the Arsenals and Liverpools because they have to steel from us rather than create their own.
I think we are in for a really interesting and exciting season. COYRs
Agree with you gadge, the likes of Liverpool can only BUY their success, not earn it. I also think that Long is a bit pricey, but with our ample budget this year and being so close to the opener, it somewhat makes sense. Of course I would have rather seen a marquee signing, but then again I would prefer Long for 12m rather than a CL striker for 500K. Long is still a good PL striker and had this signing been for about 8m, I don't think most of us would be complaining. He adds experience and depth up front. Welcome to Saints Long.
[quote][p][bold]gadge60[/bold] wrote: For me this is great news. I have listened to the doom merchants whining all summer. Gradually RK has built a new and excting squad. In the development of talent we are second to none. The highest ever transfer came from out Academy. I have to laugh at the Arsenals and Liverpools because they have to steel from us rather than create their own. I think we are in for a really interesting and exciting season. COYRs[/p][/quote]Agree with you gadge, the likes of Liverpool can only BUY their success, not earn it. I also think that Long is a bit pricey, but with our ample budget this year and being so close to the opener, it somewhat makes sense. Of course I would have rather seen a marquee signing, but then again I would prefer Long for 12m rather than a CL striker for 500K. Long is still a good PL striker and had this signing been for about 8m, I don't think most of us would be complaining. He adds experience and depth up front. Welcome to Saints Long. Chicago Saint
  • Score: 6

2:43pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Saint Viking says...

fascia123 wrote:
Saint Viking wrote:
During Saints first season back in the Premier League, West Brom had an excellent season & Shane Long was pivotal in their performances. I was very surprised when they sold him to Hull & West Brom were dreadful last season. The bottom line is we needed another striker desperately & if we paid slightly over the odds for him, so be it.

I'm fed up with the negativity from some Saints fans across the net, the players who have left are history. If they don't want to be here, then good riddance, particularly in Lovren's case. We've received good money for them & I'm confident that we will be competitive this season.

I felt with the team we had last season, that Saints underachieved under Pochettino & as we know, he had no Plan B. We threw away leads & started to leak goals alarmingly following the first ten games of the season. In 14 games against the teams above us, we won two of them, away to Liverpool & home to Everton. That simply wasn't good enough. Saints made Pochettino, not the other way round.
Well said, I posted weeks ago that Lovren was poor after he came back from injury and cost us the points on several occasions and if it wasn't for Fonte at times it would of been far worse, would you agree?
I do agree with you. I think Liverpool paid over the odds for him & as you say
when he came back from injury he was error prone & didn't look the same player. His attitude & his comments towards Saints were a disgrace & we definitely don't need his crap around the club. It's time to look forward & I can't wait for the weekend.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Viking[/bold] wrote: During Saints first season back in the Premier League, West Brom had an excellent season & Shane Long was pivotal in their performances. I was very surprised when they sold him to Hull & West Brom were dreadful last season. The bottom line is we needed another striker desperately & if we paid slightly over the odds for him, so be it. I'm fed up with the negativity from some Saints fans across the net, the players who have left are history. If they don't want to be here, then good riddance, particularly in Lovren's case. We've received good money for them & I'm confident that we will be competitive this season. I felt with the team we had last season, that Saints underachieved under Pochettino & as we know, he had no Plan B. We threw away leads & started to leak goals alarmingly following the first ten games of the season. In 14 games against the teams above us, we won two of them, away to Liverpool & home to Everton. That simply wasn't good enough. Saints made Pochettino, not the other way round.[/p][/quote]Well said, I posted weeks ago that Lovren was poor after he came back from injury and cost us the points on several occasions and if it wasn't for Fonte at times it would of been far worse, would you agree?[/p][/quote]I do agree with you. I think Liverpool paid over the odds for him & as you say when he came back from injury he was error prone & didn't look the same player. His attitude & his comments towards Saints were a disgrace & we definitely don't need his crap around the club. It's time to look forward & I can't wait for the weekend. Saint Viking
  • Score: 4

2:44pm Wed 13 Aug 14

murfmeister says...

miltonarcher wrote:
The Hull supporters feel that Bruce has somebody better lined up. Having said that, they seemed to rate his overall contribution but not his strike rate.
can have Eto'o and his wages for 2 years for the same money!

Could've got troy deeney and danny ings for the same money!

Bonkers!

Shane Longs agent must be cackling!
[quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: The Hull supporters feel that Bruce has somebody better lined up. Having said that, they seemed to rate his overall contribution but not his strike rate.[/p][/quote]can have Eto'o and his wages for 2 years for the same money! Could've got troy deeney and danny ings for the same money! Bonkers! Shane Longs agent must be cackling! murfmeister
  • Score: -8

2:46pm Wed 13 Aug 14

murfmeister says...

also I'm sure Ronald Koeman didn't pitch up at Saints and say:

Right, go get me Shane Long whatever the cost!
also I'm sure Ronald Koeman didn't pitch up at Saints and say: Right, go get me Shane Long whatever the cost! murfmeister
  • Score: -1

2:47pm Wed 13 Aug 14

pmcginty says...

With that money, we could of got Danny ings who's younger and better with a bright future ahead or even pay an extra £2 million for Fabio borini who I'm sure would favor a move to Soton instead of Sunderland.
With that money, we could of got Danny ings who's younger and better with a bright future ahead or even pay an extra £2 million for Fabio borini who I'm sure would favor a move to Soton instead of Sunderland. pmcginty
  • Score: -9

2:50pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Chicago Saint says...

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
So is it bye bye J ROD ???
Think we could of done so much better Ronnie . But am happy to eat my words !
Why would this mean bye to JRod? We all knew that we needed depth up front, so here it is. Has nothing to do with JRod.
[quote][p][bold]SPIKEISLANDTRADER[/bold] wrote: So is it bye bye J ROD ??? Think we could of done so much better Ronnie . But am happy to eat my words ![/p][/quote]Why would this mean bye to JRod? We all knew that we needed depth up front, so here it is. Has nothing to do with JRod. Chicago Saint
  • Score: 7

2:51pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Dgginger says...

Same as Forster a good player but bought at too high a price and far too late in the summer.

They don't even have the World Cup as excuse with this one.

They had they had their targets, they said, was Long one of them ? If he was why did it take so long!

There are at least four other Hull players I'd have bought before him.
He's not as good as Lambert in my opinion.

The prospects for the season are not good....but at least he is a proven PL striker that's something to cling to ....
Same as Forster a good player but bought at too high a price and far too late in the summer. They don't even have the World Cup as excuse with this one. They had they had their targets, they said, was Long one of them ? If he was why did it take so long! There are at least four other Hull players I'd have bought before him. He's not as good as Lambert in my opinion. The prospects for the season are not good....but at least he is a proven PL striker that's something to cling to .... Dgginger
  • Score: -8

2:54pm Wed 13 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

pmcginty wrote:
With that money, we could of got Danny ings who's younger and better with a bright future ahead or even pay an extra £2 million for Fabio borini who I'm sure would favor a move to Soton instead of Sunderland.
Thanks. A timely reminder that the Long deal is looking like far better business now. We could indeed have done much worse.
[quote][p][bold]pmcginty[/bold] wrote: With that money, we could of got Danny ings who's younger and better with a bright future ahead or even pay an extra £2 million for Fabio borini who I'm sure would favor a move to Soton instead of Sunderland.[/p][/quote]Thanks. A timely reminder that the Long deal is looking like far better business now. We could indeed have done much worse. SaintJD
  • Score: 3

2:55pm Wed 13 Aug 14

TGodSFC says...

murfmeister wrote:
miltonarcher wrote:
The Hull supporters feel that Bruce has somebody better lined up. Having said that, they seemed to rate his overall contribution but not his strike rate.
can have Eto'o and his wages for 2 years for the same money!

Could've got troy deeney and danny ings for the same money!

Bonkers!

Shane Longs agent must be cackling!
Eto'o wouldnt of come mate. Might of got Troy but not proven at this level, Ings was a no go, already tried, have to wait till Burnley go down to get him, he's a must for me, being a saints fan.
[quote][p][bold]murfmeister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: The Hull supporters feel that Bruce has somebody better lined up. Having said that, they seemed to rate his overall contribution but not his strike rate.[/p][/quote]can have Eto'o and his wages for 2 years for the same money! Could've got troy deeney and danny ings for the same money! Bonkers! Shane Longs agent must be cackling![/p][/quote]Eto'o wouldnt of come mate. Might of got Troy but not proven at this level, Ings was a no go, already tried, have to wait till Burnley go down to get him, he's a must for me, being a saints fan. TGodSFC
  • Score: 2

2:57pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

redandy10 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Welcome to the Saints Shane Long.
I thought Long and Jelavic were shrewd signings by Bruce for Hull last year helping keep their heads above the drop zone. I don’t see it as an inspired signing for us but I also don’t see it as a debacle. He looked good in the Baggies team that run us ragged home and away 2 seasons ago.
We have paid top dollar by the sound of it but so be it, time is not on our side.

The clear and present danger for me is how long it takes to gel all these new arrivals into a team that has the right mentality on and off the pitch. Strong leadership is required by our new captain and existing senior pros.
I agree Mush!

It's not a debacle signing, but we paid over the odds. And i think you are spot on about the team needing time to gel. There are going to be a fair few new partnerships that will need time to develop and gel.

All in all though we made some good signings this summer. I can see Tadic being our stand out player this season.
Can't argue with that, Andy and Much. Balanced and well-reasoned thoughts.

I have to admit, I took a sharp intake of breath when I read the news. Personally, I've never really liked Long and tend to agree with those who say he dives or winds opponents up and gets them booked or sent off (remember Gaston vs WBA a couple of seasons ago?) but when - IF - he plays for us, he'll get my support.

We've been crying out for someone to feed off Pelle's knock downs, maybe this will prove an inspired (if expensive) signing. Only time will tell.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: Welcome to the Saints Shane Long. I thought Long and Jelavic were shrewd signings by Bruce for Hull last year helping keep their heads above the drop zone. I don’t see it as an inspired signing for us but I also don’t see it as a debacle. He looked good in the Baggies team that run us ragged home and away 2 seasons ago. We have paid top dollar by the sound of it but so be it, time is not on our side. The clear and present danger for me is how long it takes to gel all these new arrivals into a team that has the right mentality on and off the pitch. Strong leadership is required by our new captain and existing senior pros.[/p][/quote]I agree Mush! It's not a debacle signing, but we paid over the odds. And i think you are spot on about the team needing time to gel. There are going to be a fair few new partnerships that will need time to develop and gel. All in all though we made some good signings this summer. I can see Tadic being our stand out player this season.[/p][/quote]Can't argue with that, Andy and Much. Balanced and well-reasoned thoughts. I have to admit, I took a sharp intake of breath when I read the news. Personally, I've never really liked Long and tend to agree with those who say he dives or winds opponents up and gets them booked or sent off (remember Gaston vs WBA a couple of seasons ago?) but when - IF - he plays for us, he'll get my support. We've been crying out for someone to feed off Pelle's knock downs, maybe this will prove an inspired (if expensive) signing. Only time will tell. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 1

3:00pm Wed 13 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

murfmeister wrote:
miltonarcher wrote:
The Hull supporters feel that Bruce has somebody better lined up. Having said that, they seemed to rate his overall contribution but not his strike rate.
can have Eto'o and his wages for 2 years for the same money!

Could've got troy deeney and danny ings for the same money!

Bonkers!

Shane Longs agent must be cackling!
Blimey, we really are dragging up some names now. Eto'o. Splendid. We had Scott Parker the other day. Just goes to show that there really are some very different views out there of what makes a good signing.

You'd better inform Burnley and Watford that you value their star strikers at £6 million each, because I very much doubt you'd secure them for that price.

As someone just said, Borini is on the market for £16M.
[quote][p][bold]murfmeister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: The Hull supporters feel that Bruce has somebody better lined up. Having said that, they seemed to rate his overall contribution but not his strike rate.[/p][/quote]can have Eto'o and his wages for 2 years for the same money! Could've got troy deeney and danny ings for the same money! Bonkers! Shane Longs agent must be cackling![/p][/quote]Blimey, we really are dragging up some names now. Eto'o. Splendid. We had Scott Parker the other day. Just goes to show that there really are some very different views out there of what makes a good signing. You'd better inform Burnley and Watford that you value their star strikers at £6 million each, because I very much doubt you'd secure them for that price. As someone just said, Borini is on the market for £16M. SaintJD
  • Score: 1

3:02pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Beer Monster says...

SaintJD wrote:
miltonarcher wrote:
The Hull supporters feel that Bruce has somebody better lined up. Having said that, they seemed to rate his overall contribution but not his strike rate.
Yeah, but having said that, if Liverpool or Man Utd fans came on here to get a view of how good their new players are they'd discover that all of them were complete dog sh1te.

My point is, take the views of spurned football fans with a pinch of salt.
And they'd probably get the impression that our board wanted Saints to merge with Pompey because they're a bunch of money grabbing s0ds...

Surely what the Hull fans are saying about Long is exactly what we say about Lambert - a decent enough player who'll give 100% and provide goals as well as score them.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: The Hull supporters feel that Bruce has somebody better lined up. Having said that, they seemed to rate his overall contribution but not his strike rate.[/p][/quote]Yeah, but having said that, if Liverpool or Man Utd fans came on here to get a view of how good their new players are they'd discover that all of them were complete dog sh1te. My point is, take the views of spurned football fans with a pinch of salt.[/p][/quote]And they'd probably get the impression that our board wanted Saints to merge with Pompey because they're a bunch of money grabbing s0ds... Surely what the Hull fans are saying about Long is exactly what we say about Lambert - a decent enough player who'll give 100% and provide goals as well as score them. Beer Monster
  • Score: 1

3:02pm Wed 13 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Saints n Winners wrote:
No Sammy 2 cells today, and hardly any wums. It must a good news day.
No. He's very much here. And a few others.
[quote][p][bold]Saints n Winners[/bold] wrote: No Sammy 2 cells today, and hardly any wums. It must a good news day.[/p][/quote]No. He's very much here. And a few others. SaintJD
  • Score: 1

3:16pm Wed 13 Aug 14

kaido says...

Sorry but this looks like a panic signing. He's 'okay' but not worth 12.5 million by a long way.

Frankly I'd have preferred they'd just relied on Gallagher and Mayuka until maybe the January transfer window. Mayuka is quite under rated in my opinion and hasn't really been given a proper chance at St Mary's yet.
Sorry but this looks like a panic signing. He's 'okay' but not worth 12.5 million by a long way. Frankly I'd have preferred they'd just relied on Gallagher and Mayuka until maybe the January transfer window. Mayuka is quite under rated in my opinion and hasn't really been given a proper chance at St Mary's yet. kaido
  • Score: -1

3:17pm Wed 13 Aug 14

kaido says...

Also another thing, I think Shane Long is about as good as Billy Sharp so why did we just give him a free transfer? Seems utterly stupid to me.
Also another thing, I think Shane Long is about as good as Billy Sharp so why did we just give him a free transfer? Seems utterly stupid to me. kaido
  • Score: -2

3:18pm Wed 13 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Saint Viking wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Saint Viking wrote:
During Saints first season back in the Premier League, West Brom had an excellent season & Shane Long was pivotal in their performances. I was very surprised when they sold him to Hull & West Brom were dreadful last season. The bottom line is we needed another striker desperately & if we paid slightly over the odds for him, so be it.

I'm fed up with the negativity from some Saints fans across the net, the players who have left are history. If they don't want to be here, then good riddance, particularly in Lovren's case. We've received good money for them & I'm confident that we will be competitive this season.

I felt with the team we had last season, that Saints underachieved under Pochettino & as we know, he had no Plan B. We threw away leads & started to leak goals alarmingly following the first ten games of the season. In 14 games against the teams above us, we won two of them, away to Liverpool & home to Everton. That simply wasn't good enough. Saints made Pochettino, not the other way round.
Well said, I posted weeks ago that Lovren was poor after he came back from injury and cost us the points on several occasions and if it wasn't for Fonte at times it would of been far worse, would you agree?
I do agree with you. I think Liverpool paid over the odds for him & as you say
when he came back from injury he was error prone & didn't look the same player. His attitude & his comments towards Saints were a disgrace & we definitely don't need his crap around the club. It's time to look forward & I can't wait for the weekend.
I am one of the positive brigade for my sins but although I think the Liverpool game may of come a bit to early to get result as Kevin Keegan once said I would love it if we best them on Sunday.
[quote][p][bold]Saint Viking[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Viking[/bold] wrote: During Saints first season back in the Premier League, West Brom had an excellent season & Shane Long was pivotal in their performances. I was very surprised when they sold him to Hull & West Brom were dreadful last season. The bottom line is we needed another striker desperately & if we paid slightly over the odds for him, so be it. I'm fed up with the negativity from some Saints fans across the net, the players who have left are history. If they don't want to be here, then good riddance, particularly in Lovren's case. We've received good money for them & I'm confident that we will be competitive this season. I felt with the team we had last season, that Saints underachieved under Pochettino & as we know, he had no Plan B. We threw away leads & started to leak goals alarmingly following the first ten games of the season. In 14 games against the teams above us, we won two of them, away to Liverpool & home to Everton. That simply wasn't good enough. Saints made Pochettino, not the other way round.[/p][/quote]Well said, I posted weeks ago that Lovren was poor after he came back from injury and cost us the points on several occasions and if it wasn't for Fonte at times it would of been far worse, would you agree?[/p][/quote]I do agree with you. I think Liverpool paid over the odds for him & as you say when he came back from injury he was error prone & didn't look the same player. His attitude & his comments towards Saints were a disgrace & we definitely don't need his crap around the club. It's time to look forward & I can't wait for the weekend.[/p][/quote]I am one of the positive brigade for my sins but although I think the Liverpool game may of come a bit to early to get result as Kevin Keegan once said I would love it if we best them on Sunday. fascia123
  • Score: 4

3:27pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Egomaniac says...

I am a bit confused at those whiners who say they cannot understand why the Board did not replace those players that left before allowing them to go. Do you guys live in cloud cuckoo land?

These guys suddenly announced they were off and that was that - plus how do you buy players in before you have the revenue from the sales? Can some of you explain that please?

Next, the whiners who moan about who we have signed wen we should have gone and signed x, y and z instead. First, before you can sign up someone, that someone must want to come to Saints. That hasn't been the case with some of the desirables - so get over it!

Next, those who claim we have spent over the odds on Long for example. Excuse me, did we not sell Shaw for £27M and Lallana for silly money? Again, get real.

I firmly believe RK has got in some real work horses with potential quality. I also believe that he will be successful in gelling these new players and the team as a whole. It may take time (it usually does) but I think it will come good, and we will all be pleasantly surprised in the long term.

If all you moaners are so knowledgeable about who to sign and how to go forward, why aren't you managing a football club somewhere?

I have great hope for the future. In view of the rapid loss of players from our Club, I think the management have done a pretty good job in getting in some pretty solid replacements.

So, start having faith whiners, believe in your Club and the management. I certainly believe the long term future for SFC is very rosy indeed - as long as we can keep RK!!
I am a bit confused at those whiners who say they cannot understand why the Board did not replace those players that left before allowing them to go. Do you guys live in cloud cuckoo land? These guys suddenly announced they were off and that was that - plus how do you buy players in before you have the revenue from the sales? Can some of you explain that please? Next, the whiners who moan about who we have signed wen we should have gone and signed x, y and z instead. First, before you can sign up someone, that someone must want to come to Saints. That hasn't been the case with some of the desirables - so get over it! Next, those who claim we have spent over the odds on Long for example. Excuse me, did we not sell Shaw for £27M and Lallana for silly money? Again, get real. I firmly believe RK has got in some real work horses with potential quality. I also believe that he will be successful in gelling these new players and the team as a whole. It may take time (it usually does) but I think it will come good, and we will all be pleasantly surprised in the long term. If all you moaners are so knowledgeable about who to sign and how to go forward, why aren't you managing a football club somewhere? I have great hope for the future. In view of the rapid loss of players from our Club, I think the management have done a pretty good job in getting in some pretty solid replacements. So, start having faith whiners, believe in your Club and the management. I certainly believe the long term future for SFC is very rosy indeed - as long as we can keep RK!! Egomaniac
  • Score: 17

3:37pm Wed 13 Aug 14

saint gee says...

RED & WHITE..RED & WHITE wrote:
Saint Clements wrote:
I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets."

Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?
Go support a plastic team then.....don't need your negative comments on here as we should excited and we have learned a few harsh lessons on the way....but I for one think we are going be in the top flight for a very long time....dare I say we will one day be a force in Europe in the next 4/5 seasons.....I'm loving being a saints fan LOVE IT !!!!!!!

Remember when we were at the dell then coming to St Marys always struggling.....I'd say them days are well over.....teams FEAR us now....!!!!
Sorry but everyone is entitled to there opinion, and he's my two bobs worth,this is a joke of a signing considering what the board have suggested our vision is, better players replacing the ones that have departed, do you honestly believe that long is any better then Guly lol let alone Lambert. i'm still not convinced by a long stretch that the first 11 we will be putting out will be anywhere near as good as the team of last season. thank good she still have jay and morgan(for now that is)because the quality brought in to date is nowhere near as good as i was hoping for.
i do belive we will get spanked on sunday 3 or 4-0 lets hope im totally wrong.
Lastly boruc should be our number 1 and forster should be the one trying to break into the team. but what do i know, i am only a fan for over 30 years.
[quote][p][bold]RED & WHITE..RED & WHITE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets." Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?[/p][/quote]Go support a plastic team then.....don't need your negative comments on here as we should excited and we have learned a few harsh lessons on the way....but I for one think we are going be in the top flight for a very long time....dare I say we will one day be a force in Europe in the next 4/5 seasons.....I'm loving being a saints fan LOVE IT !!!!!!! Remember when we were at the dell then coming to St Marys always struggling.....I'd say them days are well over.....teams FEAR us now....!!!![/p][/quote]Sorry but everyone is entitled to there opinion, and he's my two bobs worth,this is a joke of a signing considering what the board have suggested our vision is, better players replacing the ones that have departed, do you honestly believe that long is any better then Guly lol let alone Lambert. i'm still not convinced by a long stretch that the first 11 we will be putting out will be anywhere near as good as the team of last season. thank good she still have jay and morgan(for now that is)because the quality brought in to date is nowhere near as good as i was hoping for. i do belive we will get spanked on sunday 3 or 4-0 lets hope im totally wrong. Lastly boruc should be our number 1 and forster should be the one trying to break into the team. but what do i know, i am only a fan for over 30 years. saint gee
  • Score: -10

3:37pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

kaido wrote:
Also another thing, I think Shane Long is about as good as Billy Sharp so why did we just give him a free transfer? Seems utterly stupid to me.
Well, the long line of Premier team managers lining up to sign him on a free clearly shows how right you must be.
[quote][p][bold]kaido[/bold] wrote: Also another thing, I think Shane Long is about as good as Billy Sharp so why did we just give him a free transfer? Seems utterly stupid to me.[/p][/quote]Well, the long line of Premier team managers lining up to sign him on a free clearly shows how right you must be. Rising_Son
  • Score: 7

3:40pm Wed 13 Aug 14

bigfella777 says...

I thought no may be the club know what they are doing re the signings and then they go and do this.
This must be one of the worst prem deals ever done its just ridiculous.
Would a building firm employ a plumber who can't plumb?
Would a restaurant employ a chef who can't cook ?
No, so why the hell would you employ a 27 yr old striker who can't score for such a huge fee?
Sharp could do that job easily, this club is going down the pan fast.
I thought no may be the club know what they are doing re the signings and then they go and do this. This must be one of the worst prem deals ever done its just ridiculous. Would a building firm employ a plumber who can't plumb? Would a restaurant employ a chef who can't cook ? No, so why the hell would you employ a 27 yr old striker who can't score for such a huge fee? Sharp could do that job easily, this club is going down the pan fast. bigfella777
  • Score: -15

3:40pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

saint gee wrote:
RED & WHITE..RED & WHITE wrote:
Saint Clements wrote:
I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets."

Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?
Go support a plastic team then.....don't need your negative comments on here as we should excited and we have learned a few harsh lessons on the way....but I for one think we are going be in the top flight for a very long time....dare I say we will one day be a force in Europe in the next 4/5 seasons.....I'm loving being a saints fan LOVE IT !!!!!!!

Remember when we were at the dell then coming to St Marys always struggling.....I'd say them days are well over.....teams FEAR us now....!!!!
Sorry but everyone is entitled to there opinion, and he's my two bobs worth,this is a joke of a signing considering what the board have suggested our vision is, better players replacing the ones that have departed, do you honestly believe that long is any better then Guly lol let alone Lambert. i'm still not convinced by a long stretch that the first 11 we will be putting out will be anywhere near as good as the team of last season. thank good she still have jay and morgan(for now that is)because the quality brought in to date is nowhere near as good as i was hoping for.
i do belive we will get spanked on sunday 3 or 4-0 lets hope im totally wrong.
Lastly boruc should be our number 1 and forster should be the one trying to break into the team. but what do i know, i am only a fan for over 30 years.
"do you honestly believe that long is any better then Guly?"

Yes.
[quote][p][bold]saint gee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RED & WHITE..RED & WHITE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: I just had the BBC confirmation story open on my computer. One of my young copywriters just looked at it, slowly shook his head and said "This is the moment you know your club is being run by muppets." Of course I wish Shane the best, but when the exodus of players began, and Les and Ralph promised the best coming in return, who - hand on heart - would've been excited by the prospect of Long joining us?[/p][/quote]Go support a plastic team then.....don't need your negative comments on here as we should excited and we have learned a few harsh lessons on the way....but I for one think we are going be in the top flight for a very long time....dare I say we will one day be a force in Europe in the next 4/5 seasons.....I'm loving being a saints fan LOVE IT !!!!!!! Remember when we were at the dell then coming to St Marys always struggling.....I'd say them days are well over.....teams FEAR us now....!!!![/p][/quote]Sorry but everyone is entitled to there opinion, and he's my two bobs worth,this is a joke of a signing considering what the board have suggested our vision is, better players replacing the ones that have departed, do you honestly believe that long is any better then Guly lol let alone Lambert. i'm still not convinced by a long stretch that the first 11 we will be putting out will be anywhere near as good as the team of last season. thank good she still have jay and morgan(for now that is)because the quality brought in to date is nowhere near as good as i was hoping for. i do belive we will get spanked on sunday 3 or 4-0 lets hope im totally wrong. Lastly boruc should be our number 1 and forster should be the one trying to break into the team. but what do i know, i am only a fan for over 30 years.[/p][/quote]"do you honestly believe that long is any better then Guly?" Yes. Rising_Son
  • Score: 4

3:43pm Wed 13 Aug 14

SussexSaint55 says...

I think Shane Long could be a good signing If & when it happens. Whether this means Jay R will be off as similar player? Can't see us spending this much to keep him on the bench. More concerned about the time taken to get this defender signed. Every deal seems to take so long & then another club usually comes in. I would have expected our recruitment staff, plenty of them according to Les , to have got this sorted out weeks ago. leaving to
last few days before season starts is not ideal. Happens every year!
I think Shane Long could be a good signing If & when it happens. Whether this means Jay R will be off as similar player? Can't see us spending this much to keep him on the bench. More concerned about the time taken to get this defender signed. Every deal seems to take so long & then another club usually comes in. I would have expected our recruitment staff, plenty of them according to Les , to have got this sorted out weeks ago. leaving to last few days before season starts is not ideal. Happens every year! SussexSaint55
  • Score: 2

3:45pm Wed 13 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Egomaniac wrote:
I am a bit confused at those whiners who say they cannot understand why the Board did not replace those players that left before allowing them to go. Do you guys live in cloud cuckoo land?

These guys suddenly announced they were off and that was that - plus how do you buy players in before you have the revenue from the sales? Can some of you explain that please?

Next, the whiners who moan about who we have signed wen we should have gone and signed x, y and z instead. First, before you can sign up someone, that someone must want to come to Saints. That hasn't been the case with some of the desirables - so get over it!

Next, those who claim we have spent over the odds on Long for example. Excuse me, did we not sell Shaw for £27M and Lallana for silly money? Again, get real.

I firmly believe RK has got in some real work horses with potential quality. I also believe that he will be successful in gelling these new players and the team as a whole. It may take time (it usually does) but I think it will come good, and we will all be pleasantly surprised in the long term.

If all you moaners are so knowledgeable about who to sign and how to go forward, why aren't you managing a football club somewhere?

I have great hope for the future. In view of the rapid loss of players from our Club, I think the management have done a pretty good job in getting in some pretty solid replacements.

So, start having faith whiners, believe in your Club and the management. I certainly believe the long term future for SFC is very rosy indeed - as long as we can keep RK!!
Good shout, kissing the badge one minute and forcing a transfer by refusing to play, ain't easy to predict or plan a replacement for.

We have been royally shafted by possible ex chairman, defo ex manager and apart from Lambo defo the ex players.

Taking all of this into context I think the owner, board and the new manager have done a fantastic job faced with dire circumstances and although I don't think the short term will be all that saints fans want/expect I truly believe that by mid season if not before RK will have things ticking along nicely and in the long term we will have a set up run by a team rather than one individual that will give us a sustainable future, not the potential for peak and bust than it sounds may of been the case had KL not stepped in.

Now let's get behind our team.
[quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: I am a bit confused at those whiners who say they cannot understand why the Board did not replace those players that left before allowing them to go. Do you guys live in cloud cuckoo land? These guys suddenly announced they were off and that was that - plus how do you buy players in before you have the revenue from the sales? Can some of you explain that please? Next, the whiners who moan about who we have signed wen we should have gone and signed x, y and z instead. First, before you can sign up someone, that someone must want to come to Saints. That hasn't been the case with some of the desirables - so get over it! Next, those who claim we have spent over the odds on Long for example. Excuse me, did we not sell Shaw for £27M and Lallana for silly money? Again, get real. I firmly believe RK has got in some real work horses with potential quality. I also believe that he will be successful in gelling these new players and the team as a whole. It may take time (it usually does) but I think it will come good, and we will all be pleasantly surprised in the long term. If all you moaners are so knowledgeable about who to sign and how to go forward, why aren't you managing a football club somewhere? I have great hope for the future. In view of the rapid loss of players from our Club, I think the management have done a pretty good job in getting in some pretty solid replacements. So, start having faith whiners, believe in your Club and the management. I certainly believe the long term future for SFC is very rosy indeed - as long as we can keep RK!![/p][/quote]Good shout, kissing the badge one minute and forcing a transfer by refusing to play, ain't easy to predict or plan a replacement for. We have been royally shafted by possible ex chairman, defo ex manager and apart from Lambo defo the ex players. Taking all of this into context I think the owner, board and the new manager have done a fantastic job faced with dire circumstances and although I don't think the short term will be all that saints fans want/expect I truly believe that by mid season if not before RK will have things ticking along nicely and in the long term we will have a set up run by a team rather than one individual that will give us a sustainable future, not the potential for peak and bust than it sounds may of been the case had KL not stepped in. Now let's get behind our team. fascia123
  • Score: 8

3:46pm Wed 13 Aug 14

elvis says...

techsture wrote:
£12.5 million? Hull must be chuckling all the way to the bank. This is the most ridiculous transfer of the summer.

If we cannot find a younger, hungrier striker for less money then the so called "world class scouting system" All need to be fired.
I said as much last night Danny Ings Remy & Conner Wickham all spring to mind ....but the more I think about it the more sense it makes ,he offers us something we don't have has plenty of premier league experience and is not a prima Donna ,this time last year Spuds tried to buy him for about £8m ....yes he's overpriced but no more than Lalana was & the price is hardly his fault & as previously said many on here were not impressed by the arrivals of Crouchy & JRod when they 1st arrived ....x
[quote][p][bold]techsture[/bold] wrote: £12.5 million? Hull must be chuckling all the way to the bank. This is the most ridiculous transfer of the summer. If we cannot find a younger, hungrier striker for less money then the so called "world class scouting system" All need to be fired.[/p][/quote]I said as much last night Danny Ings Remy & Conner Wickham all spring to mind ....but the more I think about it the more sense it makes ,he offers us something we don't have has plenty of premier league experience and is not a prima Donna ,this time last year Spuds tried to buy him for about £8m ....yes he's overpriced but no more than Lalana was & the price is hardly his fault & as previously said many on here were not impressed by the arrivals of Crouchy & JRod when they 1st arrived ....x elvis
  • Score: 8

3:47pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

bigfella777 wrote:
I thought no may be the club know what they are doing re the signings and then they go and do this.
This must be one of the worst prem deals ever done its just ridiculous.
Would a building firm employ a plumber who can't plumb?
Would a restaurant employ a chef who can't cook ?
No, so why the hell would you employ a 27 yr old striker who can't score for such a huge fee?
Sharp could do that job easily, this club is going down the pan fast.
"Sharp could do that job easily." So, how would explain that highest level team coming for is Leeds in the Championship? And they mainly seem to be interested because he's free and has agreed to reduced wages.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: I thought no may be the club know what they are doing re the signings and then they go and do this. This must be one of the worst prem deals ever done its just ridiculous. Would a building firm employ a plumber who can't plumb? Would a restaurant employ a chef who can't cook ? No, so why the hell would you employ a 27 yr old striker who can't score for such a huge fee? Sharp could do that job easily, this club is going down the pan fast.[/p][/quote]"Sharp could do that job easily." So, how would explain that highest level team coming for is Leeds in the Championship? And they mainly seem to be interested because he's free and has agreed to reduced wages. Rising_Son
  • Score: 4

3:50pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Saint Viking says...

fascia123 wrote:
Saint Viking wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Saint Viking wrote:
During Saints first season back in the Premier League, West Brom had an excellent season & Shane Long was pivotal in their performances. I was very surprised when they sold him to Hull & West Brom were dreadful last season. The bottom line is we needed another striker desperately & if we paid slightly over the odds for him, so be it.

I'm fed up with the negativity from some Saints fans across the net, the players who have left are history. If they don't want to be here, then good riddance, particularly in Lovren's case. We've received good money for them & I'm confident that we will be competitive this season.

I felt with the team we had last season, that Saints underachieved under Pochettino & as we know, he had no Plan B. We threw away leads & started to leak goals alarmingly following the first ten games of the season. In 14 games against the teams above us, we won two of them, away to Liverpool & home to Everton. That simply wasn't good enough. Saints made Pochettino, not the other way round.
Well said, I posted weeks ago that Lovren was poor after he came back from injury and cost us the points on several occasions and if it wasn't for Fonte at times it would of been far worse, would you agree?
I do agree with you. I think Liverpool paid over the odds for him & as you say
when he came back from injury he was error prone & didn't look the same player. His attitude & his comments towards Saints were a disgrace & we definitely don't need his crap around the club. It's time to look forward & I can't wait for the weekend.
I am one of the positive brigade for my sins but although I think the Liverpool game may of come a bit to early to get result as Kevin Keegan once said I would love it if we best them on Sunday.
We may as well be positive, nothing we can do about what has taken place this summer. I agree it's going to be difficult on Sunday & it's going to take a few games for the players to gel, but Liverpool are in a similar position with all their new signings. They may be hiding it well, but the loss of Suarez is a huge blow to their ambitions no matter who they've signed. Just as last season when we won up there, they're vulnerable from set pieces & they were far from watertight at the back. Whatever happens, it would be good if Pelle opened his account and hits the ground running, unlike Osvaldo last season.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Viking[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Viking[/bold] wrote: During Saints first season back in the Premier League, West Brom had an excellent season & Shane Long was pivotal in their performances. I was very surprised when they sold him to Hull & West Brom were dreadful last season. The bottom line is we needed another striker desperately & if we paid slightly over the odds for him, so be it. I'm fed up with the negativity from some Saints fans across the net, the players who have left are history. If they don't want to be here, then good riddance, particularly in Lovren's case. We've received good money for them & I'm confident that we will be competitive this season. I felt with the team we had last season, that Saints underachieved under Pochettino & as we know, he had no Plan B. We threw away leads & started to leak goals alarmingly following the first ten games of the season. In 14 games against the teams above us, we won two of them, away to Liverpool & home to Everton. That simply wasn't good enough. Saints made Pochettino, not the other way round.[/p][/quote]Well said, I posted weeks ago that Lovren was poor after he came back from injury and cost us the points on several occasions and if it wasn't for Fonte at times it would of been far worse, would you agree?[/p][/quote]I do agree with you. I think Liverpool paid over the odds for him & as you say when he came back from injury he was error prone & didn't look the same player. His attitude & his comments towards Saints were a disgrace & we definitely don't need his crap around the club. It's time to look forward & I can't wait for the weekend.[/p][/quote]I am one of the positive brigade for my sins but although I think the Liverpool game may of come a bit to early to get result as Kevin Keegan once said I would love it if we best them on Sunday.[/p][/quote]We may as well be positive, nothing we can do about what has taken place this summer. I agree it's going to be difficult on Sunday & it's going to take a few games for the players to gel, but Liverpool are in a similar position with all their new signings. They may be hiding it well, but the loss of Suarez is a huge blow to their ambitions no matter who they've signed. Just as last season when we won up there, they're vulnerable from set pieces & they were far from watertight at the back. Whatever happens, it would be good if Pelle opened his account and hits the ground running, unlike Osvaldo last season. Saint Viking
  • Score: 5

3:51pm Wed 13 Aug 14

warrens 76 says...

bartley41 wrote:
We must not forget that Cortese left the Club owing Millions on the Staple wood development and unpaid transfer fees, this had to be repaid first..

The easiest thing in life is to spend money that is not yours!

Not easy but just remain positive, after the first ten games we will all have s a better idea.
you are part correct as public sector waste billions of other people's (taxpayers) money…however shrewd invetment and planning is not the same as accountancy either.
[quote][p][bold]bartley41[/bold] wrote: We must not forget that Cortese left the Club owing Millions on the Staple wood development and unpaid transfer fees, this had to be repaid first.. The easiest thing in life is to spend money that is not yours! Not easy but just remain positive, after the first ten games we will all have s a better idea.[/p][/quote]you are part correct as public sector waste billions of other people's (taxpayers) money…however shrewd invetment and planning is not the same as accountancy either. warrens 76
  • Score: 3

3:55pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

When all this started the Clap Brigade told the Neggies don't worry, get behind the board we're going to buy better players for less money and push on from last season. Each time a player was sold they instantly justified why it made total sense, the player was crap and went for top dollar etc. but I've noticed a creeping of their position. 'By the start of the season' has been replaced with 'By the 1st of September' and even the January transfer window has been called into play. Then the word 'consolidation' started to be applied to the coming season with the push for top six, Europe etc apparently being the season after. The ultimate defence has been wheeled out very recently with 'send your CV in if you think you can do better'.

Just saying like.
When all this started the Clap Brigade told the Neggies don't worry, get behind the board we're going to buy better players for less money and push on from last season. Each time a player was sold they instantly justified why it made total sense, the player was crap and went for top dollar etc. but I've noticed a creeping of their position. 'By the start of the season' has been replaced with 'By the 1st of September' and even the January transfer window has been called into play. Then the word 'consolidation' started to be applied to the coming season with the push for top six, Europe etc apparently being the season after. The ultimate defence has been wheeled out very recently with 'send your CV in if you think you can do better'. Just saying like. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -10

3:57pm Wed 13 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Saint Viking wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Saint Viking wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Saint Viking wrote:
During Saints first season back in the Premier League, West Brom had an excellent season & Shane Long was pivotal in their performances. I was very surprised when they sold him to Hull & West Brom were dreadful last season. The bottom line is we needed another striker desperately & if we paid slightly over the odds for him, so be it.

I'm fed up with the negativity from some Saints fans across the net, the players who have left are history. If they don't want to be here, then good riddance, particularly in Lovren's case. We've received good money for them & I'm confident that we will be competitive this season.

I felt with the team we had last season, that Saints underachieved under Pochettino & as we know, he had no Plan B. We threw away leads & started to leak goals alarmingly following the first ten games of the season. In 14 games against the teams above us, we won two of them, away to Liverpool & home to Everton. That simply wasn't good enough. Saints made Pochettino, not the other way round.
Well said, I posted weeks ago that Lovren was poor after he came back from injury and cost us the points on several occasions and if it wasn't for Fonte at times it would of been far worse, would you agree?
I do agree with you. I think Liverpool paid over the odds for him & as you say
when he came back from injury he was error prone & didn't look the same player. His attitude & his comments towards Saints were a disgrace & we definitely don't need his crap around the club. It's time to look forward & I can't wait for the weekend.
I am one of the positive brigade for my sins but although I think the Liverpool game may of come a bit to early to get result as Kevin Keegan once said I would love it if we best them on Sunday.
We may as well be positive, nothing we can do about what has taken place this summer. I agree it's going to be difficult on Sunday & it's going to take a few games for the players to gel, but Liverpool are in a similar position with all their new signings. They may be hiding it well, but the loss of Suarez is a huge blow to their ambitions no matter who they've signed. Just as last season when we won up there, they're vulnerable from set pieces & they were far from watertight at the back. Whatever happens, it would be good if Pelle opened his account and hits the ground running, unlike Osvaldo last season.
Good points lets hope our joint positivity sees us win 2-1 with Pelle out muscling Lovren to score a wonderful header in the 90 minute for the winner.

Christmas will of come early for sure.
[quote][p][bold]Saint Viking[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Viking[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Viking[/bold] wrote: During Saints first season back in the Premier League, West Brom had an excellent season & Shane Long was pivotal in their performances. I was very surprised when they sold him to Hull & West Brom were dreadful last season. The bottom line is we needed another striker desperately & if we paid slightly over the odds for him, so be it. I'm fed up with the negativity from some Saints fans across the net, the players who have left are history. If they don't want to be here, then good riddance, particularly in Lovren's case. We've received good money for them & I'm confident that we will be competitive this season. I felt with the team we had last season, that Saints underachieved under Pochettino & as we know, he had no Plan B. We threw away leads & started to leak goals alarmingly following the first ten games of the season. In 14 games against the teams above us, we won two of them, away to Liverpool & home to Everton. That simply wasn't good enough. Saints made Pochettino, not the other way round.[/p][/quote]Well said, I posted weeks ago that Lovren was poor after he came back from injury and cost us the points on several occasions and if it wasn't for Fonte at times it would of been far worse, would you agree?[/p][/quote]I do agree with you. I think Liverpool paid over the odds for him & as you say when he came back from injury he was error prone & didn't look the same player. His attitude & his comments towards Saints were a disgrace & we definitely don't need his crap around the club. It's time to look forward & I can't wait for the weekend.[/p][/quote]I am one of the positive brigade for my sins but although I think the Liverpool game may of come a bit to early to get result as Kevin Keegan once said I would love it if we best them on Sunday.[/p][/quote]We may as well be positive, nothing we can do about what has taken place this summer. I agree it's going to be difficult on Sunday & it's going to take a few games for the players to gel, but Liverpool are in a similar position with all their new signings. They may be hiding it well, but the loss of Suarez is a huge blow to their ambitions no matter who they've signed. Just as last season when we won up there, they're vulnerable from set pieces & they were far from watertight at the back. Whatever happens, it would be good if Pelle opened his account and hits the ground running, unlike Osvaldo last season.[/p][/quote]Good points lets hope our joint positivity sees us win 2-1 with Pelle out muscling Lovren to score a wonderful header in the 90 minute for the winner. Christmas will of come early for sure. fascia123
  • Score: 6

3:57pm Wed 13 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

A quick question for the doom and gloom merchants on here today.

It is to be answered with no references to alternative signings or price tags or what ifs.

Which of the following strike forces is stronger:

Lambert, Jay-Rod, Guly

Pelle, Jay-Rod, Long

At the very least it isn't an easy choice either way so, if you consider that, following the events of early summer, we'd be happy with stability and more of the same from last season, I think the line-up is comparable if not slightly better.

Let's say Lambert will guarantee you 15 goals (which is questionable one year on), Long will get you 9-10. Guly will, realistically, get you none. So, the big question is - will Pelle get five or six goals in a season to make up the shortfall? I'd like to think that's realistic.

If you disagree let me know and explain why last season's strike force (of those three players) is so much stronger.
A quick question for the doom and gloom merchants on here today. It is to be answered with no references to alternative signings or price tags or what ifs. Which of the following strike forces is stronger: Lambert, Jay-Rod, Guly Pelle, Jay-Rod, Long At the very least it isn't an easy choice either way so, if you consider that, following the events of early summer, we'd be happy with stability and more of the same from last season, I think the line-up is comparable if not slightly better. Let's say Lambert will guarantee you 15 goals (which is questionable one year on), Long will get you 9-10. Guly will, realistically, get you none. So, the big question is - will Pelle get five or six goals in a season to make up the shortfall? I'd like to think that's realistic. If you disagree let me know and explain why last season's strike force (of those three players) is so much stronger. SaintJD
  • Score: 8

4:02pm Wed 13 Aug 14

EricMartin'sHat says...

St Forlife wrote:
Norwegian Saint wrote:
An hour agao it was 12million.... now 12,5million.... the way the prices go up nowadays... wasn't like this when I was a boy....
Aye, in my day you could buy 3 strikers, 1 centre half, a goalie, 2 midfielders and a bench of subs all for 3/6d - and still have change for a winger!
2 pints of bitter in the Nags Head for 12p; taxi to the Pier for 10p (each); 25p to get in the Mecca; 50p for crap pint of lager; then walk home (alone)…. and you'd still have 3p change from a pound. Not even enough to buy a programme on the Saturday.
[quote][p][bold]St Forlife[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: An hour agao it was 12million.... now 12,5million.... the way the prices go up nowadays... wasn't like this when I was a boy....[/p][/quote]Aye, in my day you could buy 3 strikers, 1 centre half, a goalie, 2 midfielders and a bench of subs all for 3/6d - and still have change for a winger![/p][/quote]2 pints of bitter in the Nags Head for 12p; taxi to the Pier for 10p (each); 25p to get in the Mecca; 50p for crap pint of lager; then walk home (alone)…. and you'd still have 3p change from a pound. Not even enough to buy a programme on the Saturday. EricMartin'sHat
  • Score: 0

4:03pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

warrens 76 wrote:
bartley41 wrote:
We must not forget that Cortese left the Club owing Millions on the Staple wood development and unpaid transfer fees, this had to be repaid first..

The easiest thing in life is to spend money that is not yours!

Not easy but just remain positive, after the first ten games we will all have s a better idea.
you are part correct as public sector waste billions of other people's (taxpayers) money…however shrewd invetment and planning is not the same as accountancy either.
It's the first 10 games is it? Just want to be sure. Not 'by Christmas' then?

The Staplewood development falls outside the FFP rules and the debt on previous signings is £20m. Now when you say that has to be repaid first are you saying Les is a barefaced liar for stating unequivocally that all sale receipts would be ploughed back into the squad? Although to be fair Ralph quietly changed that to include wages which of course makes a massive difference.

Sorry to be a nuisance just want to clarify things because every time I start to get my head around it it seems to move and I need to dumb down even further.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bartley41[/bold] wrote: We must not forget that Cortese left the Club owing Millions on the Staple wood development and unpaid transfer fees, this had to be repaid first.. The easiest thing in life is to spend money that is not yours! Not easy but just remain positive, after the first ten games we will all have s a better idea.[/p][/quote]you are part correct as public sector waste billions of other people's (taxpayers) money…however shrewd invetment and planning is not the same as accountancy either.[/p][/quote]It's the first 10 games is it? Just want to be sure. Not 'by Christmas' then? The Staplewood development falls outside the FFP rules and the debt on previous signings is £20m. Now when you say that has to be repaid first are you saying Les is a barefaced liar for stating unequivocally that all sale receipts would be ploughed back into the squad? Although to be fair Ralph quietly changed that to include wages which of course makes a massive difference. Sorry to be a nuisance just want to clarify things because every time I start to get my head around it it seems to move and I need to dumb down even further. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -6

4:08pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

jls217 wrote:
I think when JRod makes it back there are going to be a lot defenders who are going to be faced with JRod, Gaston, Shane, Taider and Pelle charging at them and will have trepidation in mined especially when they in turn are being overlapped by Nat and Bertrand and supported by JWP, Tadic, Cork, Schneiderlin(?) and Davis

Sorry neggies but going forward we are quite an impressive outfit.
In defence maybe a question mark or two but when we have the ball we will scare teams.
Sounds awesome when you say it like that jls! Good shout.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: I think when JRod makes it back there are going to be a lot defenders who are going to be faced with JRod, Gaston, Shane, Taider and Pelle charging at them and will have trepidation in mined especially when they in turn are being overlapped by Nat and Bertrand and supported by JWP, Tadic, Cork, Schneiderlin(?) and Davis Sorry neggies but going forward we are quite an impressive outfit. In defence maybe a question mark or two but when we have the ball we will scare teams.[/p][/quote]Sounds awesome when you say it like that jls! Good shout. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 3

4:08pm Wed 13 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

SaintJD wrote:
A quick question for the doom and gloom merchants on here today.

It is to be answered with no references to alternative signings or price tags or what ifs.

Which of the following strike forces is stronger:

Lambert, Jay-Rod, Guly

Pelle, Jay-Rod, Long

At the very least it isn't an easy choice either way so, if you consider that, following the events of early summer, we'd be happy with stability and more of the same from last season, I think the line-up is comparable if not slightly better.

Let's say Lambert will guarantee you 15 goals (which is questionable one year on), Long will get you 9-10. Guly will, realistically, get you none. So, the big question is - will Pelle get five or six goals in a season to make up the shortfall? I'd like to think that's realistic.

If you disagree let me know and explain why last season's strike force (of those three players) is so much stronger.
We have only seen Pelle adjusting to playing with players he has never played with in a totally different system, have you seen his goals on youtube, irrespective of the opposition/league he hasn't become a bad player overnight, he looks strong on the ground and in the air and will get goals for certain.

Guly wasn't even worth a place on the bench, was it Ruddock who said that he thought towards the end of last season Lambert looked as though his legs were going, and JRod will come back just as RK has the team firing on all cylinders and will get a hat full.

I agree the future even considering all the turmoil looks bright but try telling that to some.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: A quick question for the doom and gloom merchants on here today. It is to be answered with no references to alternative signings or price tags or what ifs. Which of the following strike forces is stronger: Lambert, Jay-Rod, Guly Pelle, Jay-Rod, Long At the very least it isn't an easy choice either way so, if you consider that, following the events of early summer, we'd be happy with stability and more of the same from last season, I think the line-up is comparable if not slightly better. Let's say Lambert will guarantee you 15 goals (which is questionable one year on), Long will get you 9-10. Guly will, realistically, get you none. So, the big question is - will Pelle get five or six goals in a season to make up the shortfall? I'd like to think that's realistic. If you disagree let me know and explain why last season's strike force (of those three players) is so much stronger.[/p][/quote]We have only seen Pelle adjusting to playing with players he has never played with in a totally different system, have you seen his goals on youtube, irrespective of the opposition/league he hasn't become a bad player overnight, he looks strong on the ground and in the air and will get goals for certain. Guly wasn't even worth a place on the bench, was it Ruddock who said that he thought towards the end of last season Lambert looked as though his legs were going, and JRod will come back just as RK has the team firing on all cylinders and will get a hat full. I agree the future even considering all the turmoil looks bright but try telling that to some. fascia123
  • Score: 5

4:16pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Linesman says...

I can't help thinking that every club knows how much money Saints have made from the players that they have sold, and now Saints appear to be having to pay 'over the odds' to get players in.
I can't help thinking that every club knows how much money Saints have made from the players that they have sold, and now Saints appear to be having to pay 'over the odds' to get players in. Linesman
  • Score: 1

4:16pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Saint Viking says...

fascia123 wrote:
Saint Viking wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Saint Viking wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Saint Viking wrote:
During Saints first season back in the Premier League, West Brom had an excellent season & Shane Long was pivotal in their performances. I was very surprised when they sold him to Hull & West Brom were dreadful last season. The bottom line is we needed another striker desperately & if we paid slightly over the odds for him, so be it.

I'm fed up with the negativity from some Saints fans across the net, the players who have left are history. If they don't want to be here, then good riddance, particularly in Lovren's case. We've received good money for them & I'm confident that we will be competitive this season.

I felt with the team we had last season, that Saints underachieved under Pochettino & as we know, he had no Plan B. We threw away leads & started to leak goals alarmingly following the first ten games of the season. In 14 games against the teams above us, we won two of them, away to Liverpool & home to Everton. That simply wasn't good enough. Saints made Pochettino, not the other way round.
Well said, I posted weeks ago that Lovren was poor after he came back from injury and cost us the points on several occasions and if it wasn't for Fonte at times it would of been far worse, would you agree?
I do agree with you. I think Liverpool paid over the odds for him & as you say
when he came back from injury he was error prone & didn't look the same player. His attitude & his comments towards Saints were a disgrace & we definitely don't need his crap around the club. It's time to look forward & I can't wait for the weekend.
I am one of the positive brigade for my sins but although I think the Liverpool game may of come a bit to early to get result as Kevin Keegan once said I would love it if we best them on Sunday.
We may as well be positive, nothing we can do about what has taken place this summer. I agree it's going to be difficult on Sunday & it's going to take a few games for the players to gel, but Liverpool are in a similar position with all their new signings. They may be hiding it well, but the loss of Suarez is a huge blow to their ambitions no matter who they've signed. Just as last season when we won up there, they're vulnerable from set pieces & they were far from watertight at the back. Whatever happens, it would be good if Pelle opened his account and hits the ground running, unlike Osvaldo last season.
Good points lets hope our joint positivity sees us win 2-1 with Pelle out muscling Lovren to score a wonderful header in the 90 minute for the winner.

Christmas will of come early for sure.
It would really settle things down if we can get at least a point up there. I think our midfield depth has been underestimated by the football press, we still have a good team & we're in much better shape than the majority of the teams who finished below us last season.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Viking[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Viking[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Viking[/bold] wrote: During Saints first season back in the Premier League, West Brom had an excellent season & Shane Long was pivotal in their performances. I was very surprised when they sold him to Hull & West Brom were dreadful last season. The bottom line is we needed another striker desperately & if we paid slightly over the odds for him, so be it. I'm fed up with the negativity from some Saints fans across the net, the players who have left are history. If they don't want to be here, then good riddance, particularly in Lovren's case. We've received good money for them & I'm confident that we will be competitive this season. I felt with the team we had last season, that Saints underachieved under Pochettino & as we know, he had no Plan B. We threw away leads & started to leak goals alarmingly following the first ten games of the season. In 14 games against the teams above us, we won two of them, away to Liverpool & home to Everton. That simply wasn't good enough. Saints made Pochettino, not the other way round.[/p][/quote]Well said, I posted weeks ago that Lovren was poor after he came back from injury and cost us the points on several occasions and if it wasn't for Fonte at times it would of been far worse, would you agree?[/p][/quote]I do agree with you. I think Liverpool paid over the odds for him & as you say when he came back from injury he was error prone & didn't look the same player. His attitude & his comments towards Saints were a disgrace & we definitely don't need his crap around the club. It's time to look forward & I can't wait for the weekend.[/p][/quote]I am one of the positive brigade for my sins but although I think the Liverpool game may of come a bit to early to get result as Kevin Keegan once said I would love it if we best them on Sunday.[/p][/quote]We may as well be positive, nothing we can do about what has taken place this summer. I agree it's going to be difficult on Sunday & it's going to take a few games for the players to gel, but Liverpool are in a similar position with all their new signings. They may be hiding it well, but the loss of Suarez is a huge blow to their ambitions no matter who they've signed. Just as last season when we won up there, they're vulnerable from set pieces & they were far from watertight at the back. Whatever happens, it would be good if Pelle opened his account and hits the ground running, unlike Osvaldo last season.[/p][/quote]Good points lets hope our joint positivity sees us win 2-1 with Pelle out muscling Lovren to score a wonderful header in the 90 minute for the winner. Christmas will of come early for sure.[/p][/quote]It would really settle things down if we can get at least a point up there. I think our midfield depth has been underestimated by the football press, we still have a good team & we're in much better shape than the majority of the teams who finished below us last season. Saint Viking
  • Score: 1

4:16pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
We will be his third club this year You surely must ask why the other 2 have not fought to keep him
That is a fair comment Saintsayer,but then Crouchy had been around a bit too,remember?
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: We will be his third club this year You surely must ask why the other 2 have not fought to keep him[/p][/quote]That is a fair comment Saintsayer,but then Crouchy had been around a bit too,remember? Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

4:20pm Wed 13 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Linesman wrote:
I can't help thinking that every club knows how much money Saints have made from the players that they have sold, and now Saints appear to be having to pay 'over the odds' to get players in.
It has no relevance now as it all to late, but I can't help feeling the after NC went quite a few clubs new all the intimate contract details of all our key players.
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: I can't help thinking that every club knows how much money Saints have made from the players that they have sold, and now Saints appear to be having to pay 'over the odds' to get players in.[/p][/quote]It has no relevance now as it all to late, but I can't help feeling the after NC went quite a few clubs new all the intimate contract details of all our key players. fascia123
  • Score: 2

4:20pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Mosschops says...

We've just signed the best striker from a mid table prem team also in Europe and we're moaning. The same people who moaned that we sold our best players. The same ones who moaned we weren't spending the money because of asset stripping (which was always nonsense), that we were missing out on players because we refused to pay over the odds. Now when we pay a couple of million over the odds they moan we have overpaid. They moan because they wanted someone else even though that someone else either didn't want to come or isn't the right player. Probably the same ones who moaned at Jay Rod when he wasnt instantly amazing. They remind me of a spoilt child who cries because they got rainbow dash when they wanted pinky pie pony. Grow up and be grateful - he's a good player the best of his type available and that we all agreed we needed and a Saint.
We've just signed the best striker from a mid table prem team also in Europe and we're moaning. The same people who moaned that we sold our best players. The same ones who moaned we weren't spending the money because of asset stripping (which was always nonsense), that we were missing out on players because we refused to pay over the odds. Now when we pay a couple of million over the odds they moan we have overpaid. They moan because they wanted someone else even though that someone else either didn't want to come or isn't the right player. Probably the same ones who moaned at Jay Rod when he wasnt instantly amazing. They remind me of a spoilt child who cries because they got rainbow dash when they wanted pinky pie pony. Grow up and be grateful - he's a good player the best of his type available and that we all agreed we needed and a Saint. Mosschops
  • Score: 21

4:22pm Wed 13 Aug 14

ADSFC72 says...

He will bring much needed pace up front and always chases the defenders down, which will fit in with our style.
Linking up with a target man like Pelle, could work well and brings a different dimension to the attack!
Played well since joining Hull, but £8M seems like a more realistic price?
He will bring much needed pace up front and always chases the defenders down, which will fit in with our style. Linking up with a target man like Pelle, could work well and brings a different dimension to the attack! Played well since joining Hull, but £8M seems like a more realistic price? ADSFC72
  • Score: 3

4:25pm Wed 13 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Mosschops wrote:
We've just signed the best striker from a mid table prem team also in Europe and we're moaning. The same people who moaned that we sold our best players. The same ones who moaned we weren't spending the money because of asset stripping (which was always nonsense), that we were missing out on players because we refused to pay over the odds. Now when we pay a couple of million over the odds they moan we have overpaid. They moan because they wanted someone else even though that someone else either didn't want to come or isn't the right player. Probably the same ones who moaned at Jay Rod when he wasnt instantly amazing. They remind me of a spoilt child who cries because they got rainbow dash when they wanted pinky pie pony. Grow up and be grateful - he's a good player the best of his type available and that we all agreed we needed and a Saint.
I like that a lot, perhaps we can house them all in the renamed family section, now the kindergarten end, where they can all enjoy lollies and ice cream and have their nappies changed at halftime.
[quote][p][bold]Mosschops[/bold] wrote: We've just signed the best striker from a mid table prem team also in Europe and we're moaning. The same people who moaned that we sold our best players. The same ones who moaned we weren't spending the money because of asset stripping (which was always nonsense), that we were missing out on players because we refused to pay over the odds. Now when we pay a couple of million over the odds they moan we have overpaid. They moan because they wanted someone else even though that someone else either didn't want to come or isn't the right player. Probably the same ones who moaned at Jay Rod when he wasnt instantly amazing. They remind me of a spoilt child who cries because they got rainbow dash when they wanted pinky pie pony. Grow up and be grateful - he's a good player the best of his type available and that we all agreed we needed and a Saint.[/p][/quote]I like that a lot, perhaps we can house them all in the renamed family section, now the kindergarten end, where they can all enjoy lollies and ice cream and have their nappies changed at halftime. fascia123
  • Score: 3

4:26pm Wed 13 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

fascia123 wrote:
Linesman wrote:
I can't help thinking that every club knows how much money Saints have made from the players that they have sold, and now Saints appear to be having to pay 'over the odds' to get players in.
It has no relevance now as it all to late, but I can't help feeling the after NC went quite a few clubs new all the intimate contract details of all our key players.
Should be knew not new.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: I can't help thinking that every club knows how much money Saints have made from the players that they have sold, and now Saints appear to be having to pay 'over the odds' to get players in.[/p][/quote]It has no relevance now as it all to late, but I can't help feeling the after NC went quite a few clubs new all the intimate contract details of all our key players.[/p][/quote]Should be knew not new. fascia123
  • Score: 0

4:27pm Wed 13 Aug 14

legod7 says...

I wonder how many of the neggies who regularly post on here actually go to SMS every week to watch the Saints. I am a season ticket holder and would NEVER run the club down. It was hard being positive, especially when Wupert was in charge , but we are in a much stronger position now than we have been for a long time.
I wonder how many of the neggies who regularly post on here actually go to SMS every week to watch the Saints. I am a season ticket holder and would NEVER run the club down. It was hard being positive, especially when Wupert was in charge , but we are in a much stronger position now than we have been for a long time. legod7
  • Score: 3

4:33pm Wed 13 Aug 14

StPerryGroves says...

I don't get why some Hull fans are sniggering.
I don't get why some Hull fans are sniggering. StPerryGroves
  • Score: 1

4:34pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Saints n Winners wrote:
No Sammy 2 cells today, and hardly any wums. It must a good news day.
Malcombe reported him..hasn't been seen since.
[quote][p][bold]Saints n Winners[/bold] wrote: No Sammy 2 cells today, and hardly any wums. It must a good news day.[/p][/quote]Malcombe reported him..hasn't been seen since. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 4

4:34pm Wed 13 Aug 14

killared says...

StPerryGroves wrote:
I don't get why some Hull fans are sniggering.
Because we pay 12.5 million when he's real value is between 6.5 up 8 million
[quote][p][bold]StPerryGroves[/bold] wrote: I don't get why some Hull fans are sniggering.[/p][/quote]Because we pay 12.5 million when he's real value is between 6.5 up 8 million killared
  • Score: 1

4:35pm Wed 13 Aug 14

justaSaintsfan says...

lastminmoran wrote:
International player! a busy bee who has a bit of an edge,We get a little mist in front of our eye's with overseas names! I would like the little pea,but fact is he would of cost double of what we are paying for Mr long. So i can see the thinking..but in reality we are buying a good championship player who would have cost about £200-ooo in old money. but with a bit of promotion,a five a'clock shadow, and a nice little speech about being part of a club going place's... cue some racy little rock track and shakey camera... and the doubters will get a nice short affordable name off the club shop printers at a reasonable price.
That sounds like the Long and the short of it!!!
[quote][p][bold]lastminmoran[/bold] wrote: International player! a busy bee who has a bit of an edge,We get a little mist in front of our eye's with overseas names! I would like the little pea,but fact is he would of cost double of what we are paying for Mr long. So i can see the thinking..but in reality we are buying a good championship player who would have cost about £200-ooo in old money. but with a bit of promotion,a five a'clock shadow, and a nice little speech about being part of a club going place's... cue some racy little rock track and shakey camera... and the doubters will get a nice short affordable name off the club shop printers at a reasonable price.[/p][/quote]That sounds like the Long and the short of it!!! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: -1

4:36pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

StPerryGroves wrote:
I don't get why some Hull fans are sniggering.
We will have the last laugh.
[quote][p][bold]StPerryGroves[/bold] wrote: I don't get why some Hull fans are sniggering.[/p][/quote]We will have the last laugh. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

4:37pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Rudolf Hucker says...

montecristosaint wrote:
I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place.
We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.
yo montecristo,
I will copy and save your comment, and post it again at the end of the season.If you are right, then I will gladly buy you a drink. If you are wrong, then you buy me a drink and post a big fat SORRY on here. Deal?
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place. We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.[/p][/quote]yo montecristo, I will copy and save your comment, and post it again at the end of the season.If you are right, then I will gladly buy you a drink. If you are wrong, then you buy me a drink and post a big fat SORRY on here. Deal? Rudolf Hucker
  • Score: 4

4:39pm Wed 13 Aug 14

montecristosaint says...

Ozmosis wrote:
It seems a heavy price tag but, knowing that we have money due to player sales, clubs were always going to hold us to ransom.
its no excuse Reed should have found replacements before selling players on, sheer incomptence in my view. Reed should resign.
[quote][p][bold]Ozmosis[/bold] wrote: It seems a heavy price tag but, knowing that we have money due to player sales, clubs were always going to hold us to ransom.[/p][/quote]its no excuse Reed should have found replacements before selling players on, sheer incomptence in my view. Reed should resign. montecristosaint
  • Score: -8

4:39pm Wed 13 Aug 14

KSO16R says...

bigfella777 wrote:
I thought no may be the club know what they are doing re the signings and then they go and do this.
This must be one of the worst prem deals ever done its just ridiculous.
Would a building firm employ a plumber who can't plumb?
Would a restaurant employ a chef who can't cook ?
No, so why the hell would you employ a 27 yr old striker who can't score for such a huge fee?
Sharp could do that job easily, this club is going down the pan fast.
Actually some building firms do employ plumbers that cant plumb and there are lots of restaurants with chefs that cant cook
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: I thought no may be the club know what they are doing re the signings and then they go and do this. This must be one of the worst prem deals ever done its just ridiculous. Would a building firm employ a plumber who can't plumb? Would a restaurant employ a chef who can't cook ? No, so why the hell would you employ a 27 yr old striker who can't score for such a huge fee? Sharp could do that job easily, this club is going down the pan fast.[/p][/quote]Actually some building firms do employ plumbers that cant plumb and there are lots of restaurants with chefs that cant cook KSO16R
  • Score: 2

4:40pm Wed 13 Aug 14

BracknellSaint says...

StPerryGroves wrote:
I don't get why some Hull fans are sniggering.
Just doing what we did when Liverpool paid 10 million over the odds for Liellana to be fair.
[quote][p][bold]StPerryGroves[/bold] wrote: I don't get why some Hull fans are sniggering.[/p][/quote]Just doing what we did when Liverpool paid 10 million over the odds for Liellana to be fair. BracknellSaint
  • Score: 1

4:42pm Wed 13 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Saint Viking wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Saint Viking wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Saint Viking wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Saint Viking wrote:
During Saints first season back in the Premier League, West Brom had an excellent season & Shane Long was pivotal in their performances. I was very surprised when they sold him to Hull & West Brom were dreadful last season. The bottom line is we needed another striker desperately & if we paid slightly over the odds for him, so be it.

I'm fed up with the negativity from some Saints fans across the net, the players who have left are history. If they don't want to be here, then good riddance, particularly in Lovren's case. We've received good money for them & I'm confident that we will be competitive this season.

I felt with the team we had last season, that Saints underachieved under Pochettino & as we know, he had no Plan B. We threw away leads & started to leak goals alarmingly following the first ten games of the season. In 14 games against the teams above us, we won two of them, away to Liverpool & home to Everton. That simply wasn't good enough. Saints made Pochettino, not the other way round.
Well said, I posted weeks ago that Lovren was poor after he came back from injury and cost us the points on several occasions and if it wasn't for Fonte at times it would of been far worse, would you agree?
I do agree with you. I think Liverpool paid over the odds for him & as you say
when he came back from injury he was error prone & didn't look the same player. His attitude & his comments towards Saints were a disgrace & we definitely don't need his crap around the club. It's time to look forward & I can't wait for the weekend.
I am one of the positive brigade for my sins but although I think the Liverpool game may of come a bit to early to get result as Kevin Keegan once said I would love it if we best them on Sunday.
We may as well be positive, nothing we can do about what has taken place this summer. I agree it's going to be difficult on Sunday & it's going to take a few games for the players to gel, but Liverpool are in a similar position with all their new signings. They may be hiding it well, but the loss of Suarez is a huge blow to their ambitions no matter who they've signed. Just as last season when we won up there, they're vulnerable from set pieces & they were far from watertight at the back. Whatever happens, it would be good if Pelle opened his account and hits the ground running, unlike Osvaldo last season.
Good points lets hope our joint positivity sees us win 2-1 with Pelle out muscling Lovren to score a wonderful header in the 90 minute for the winner.

Christmas will of come early for sure.
It would really settle things down if we can get at least a point up there. I think our midfield depth has been underestimated by the football press, we still have a good team & we're in much better shape than the majority of the teams who finished below us last season.
Agreed
[quote][p][bold]Saint Viking[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Viking[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Viking[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Viking[/bold] wrote: During Saints first season back in the Premier League, West Brom had an excellent season & Shane Long was pivotal in their performances. I was very surprised when they sold him to Hull & West Brom were dreadful last season. The bottom line is we needed another striker desperately & if we paid slightly over the odds for him, so be it. I'm fed up with the negativity from some Saints fans across the net, the players who have left are history. If they don't want to be here, then good riddance, particularly in Lovren's case. We've received good money for them & I'm confident that we will be competitive this season. I felt with the team we had last season, that Saints underachieved under Pochettino & as we know, he had no Plan B. We threw away leads & started to leak goals alarmingly following the first ten games of the season. In 14 games against the teams above us, we won two of them, away to Liverpool & home to Everton. That simply wasn't good enough. Saints made Pochettino, not the other way round.[/p][/quote]Well said, I posted weeks ago that Lovren was poor after he came back from injury and cost us the points on several occasions and if it wasn't for Fonte at times it would of been far worse, would you agree?[/p][/quote]I do agree with you. I think Liverpool paid over the odds for him & as you say when he came back from injury he was error prone & didn't look the same player. His attitude & his comments towards Saints were a disgrace & we definitely don't need his crap around the club. It's time to look forward & I can't wait for the weekend.[/p][/quote]I am one of the positive brigade for my sins but although I think the Liverpool game may of come a bit to early to get result as Kevin Keegan once said I would love it if we best them on Sunday.[/p][/quote]We may as well be positive, nothing we can do about what has taken place this summer. I agree it's going to be difficult on Sunday & it's going to take a few games for the players to gel, but Liverpool are in a similar position with all their new signings. They may be hiding it well, but the loss of Suarez is a huge blow to their ambitions no matter who they've signed. Just as last season when we won up there, they're vulnerable from set pieces & they were far from watertight at the back. Whatever happens, it would be good if Pelle opened his account and hits the ground running, unlike Osvaldo last season.[/p][/quote]Good points lets hope our joint positivity sees us win 2-1 with Pelle out muscling Lovren to score a wonderful header in the 90 minute for the winner. Christmas will of come early for sure.[/p][/quote]It would really settle things down if we can get at least a point up there. I think our midfield depth has been underestimated by the football press, we still have a good team & we're in much better shape than the majority of the teams who finished below us last season.[/p][/quote]Agreed fascia123
  • Score: 1

4:44pm Wed 13 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Saints n Winners wrote:
No Sammy 2 cells today, and hardly any wums. It must a good news day.
Malcombe reported him..hasn't been seen since.
He's still here - under a different login maybe but Trolls don't give up that easy. He'll give imself away they always do.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints n Winners[/bold] wrote: No Sammy 2 cells today, and hardly any wums. It must a good news day.[/p][/quote]Malcombe reported him..hasn't been seen since.[/p][/quote]He's still here - under a different login maybe but Trolls don't give up that easy. He'll give imself away they always do. jls217
  • Score: 3

4:45pm Wed 13 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

montecristosaint wrote:
Ozmosis wrote:
It seems a heavy price tag but, knowing that we have money due to player sales, clubs were always going to hold us to ransom.
its no excuse Reed should have found replacements before selling players on, sheer incomptence in my view. Reed should resign.
How could he of done this, one minute kissing badge next minute refusing to play to force a transfer, we did the best with the set of circumstances at our disposal.
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ozmosis[/bold] wrote: It seems a heavy price tag but, knowing that we have money due to player sales, clubs were always going to hold us to ransom.[/p][/quote]its no excuse Reed should have found replacements before selling players on, sheer incomptence in my view. Reed should resign.[/p][/quote]How could he of done this, one minute kissing badge next minute refusing to play to force a transfer, we did the best with the set of circumstances at our disposal. fascia123
  • Score: 5

4:46pm Wed 13 Aug 14

montecristosaint says...

Rudolf Hucker wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place.
We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.
yo montecristo,
I will copy and save your comment, and post it again at the end of the season.If you are right, then I will gladly buy you a drink. If you are wrong, then you buy me a drink and post a big fat SORRY on here. Deal?
Rudolf I dont make deals its just my opinion that the Board have been incompetent, sold players when they didnt need to, and did not secure replacements beforehand. And now that we are less than a week from the start of the season, Reed who earlier claimed to have vast resources of knowledge as to available players, hits the panic button and does a deal with Hull which can only be described as breathtakingly poor. I have yet to find one person who thinks Long is worth 12m, he is a championship striker at best. As to whether we stay up, no comment, other than that the club has taken a huge risk in selling so many top players and expecting those that have come in to replace them like for like. I am frankly doubtful. I am however quite happy to be proved wrong.Why did the club have to gamble with our future though?
[quote][p][bold]Rudolf Hucker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place. We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.[/p][/quote]yo montecristo, I will copy and save your comment, and post it again at the end of the season.If you are right, then I will gladly buy you a drink. If you are wrong, then you buy me a drink and post a big fat SORRY on here. Deal?[/p][/quote]Rudolf I dont make deals its just my opinion that the Board have been incompetent, sold players when they didnt need to, and did not secure replacements beforehand. And now that we are less than a week from the start of the season, Reed who earlier claimed to have vast resources of knowledge as to available players, hits the panic button and does a deal with Hull which can only be described as breathtakingly poor. I have yet to find one person who thinks Long is worth 12m, he is a championship striker at best. As to whether we stay up, no comment, other than that the club has taken a huge risk in selling so many top players and expecting those that have come in to replace them like for like. I am frankly doubtful. I am however quite happy to be proved wrong.Why did the club have to gamble with our future though? montecristosaint
  • Score: -6

4:52pm Wed 13 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

montecristosaint wrote:
Rudolf Hucker wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place.
We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.
yo montecristo,
I will copy and save your comment, and post it again at the end of the season.If you are right, then I will gladly buy you a drink. If you are wrong, then you buy me a drink and post a big fat SORRY on here. Deal?
Rudolf I dont make deals its just my opinion that the Board have been incompetent, sold players when they didnt need to, and did not secure replacements beforehand. And now that we are less than a week from the start of the season, Reed who earlier claimed to have vast resources of knowledge as to available players, hits the panic button and does a deal with Hull which can only be described as breathtakingly poor. I have yet to find one person who thinks Long is worth 12m, he is a championship striker at best. As to whether we stay up, no comment, other than that the club has taken a huge risk in selling so many top players and expecting those that have come in to replace them like for like. I am frankly doubtful. I am however quite happy to be proved wrong.Why did the club have to gamble with our future though?
I suppose the gambling you refer to goes back to NC going?

If KL had not intervened would you of had a club to be debating the future of?

As my previous post how could we legislate for player kissing the badge one minute and refusing to play and forcing a transfer the next, thank god they did such a good job getting the best deal for SFC so allowing us to rebuild over the coming months.
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rudolf Hucker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place. We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.[/p][/quote]yo montecristo, I will copy and save your comment, and post it again at the end of the season.If you are right, then I will gladly buy you a drink. If you are wrong, then you buy me a drink and post a big fat SORRY on here. Deal?[/p][/quote]Rudolf I dont make deals its just my opinion that the Board have been incompetent, sold players when they didnt need to, and did not secure replacements beforehand. And now that we are less than a week from the start of the season, Reed who earlier claimed to have vast resources of knowledge as to available players, hits the panic button and does a deal with Hull which can only be described as breathtakingly poor. I have yet to find one person who thinks Long is worth 12m, he is a championship striker at best. As to whether we stay up, no comment, other than that the club has taken a huge risk in selling so many top players and expecting those that have come in to replace them like for like. I am frankly doubtful. I am however quite happy to be proved wrong.Why did the club have to gamble with our future though?[/p][/quote]I suppose the gambling you refer to goes back to NC going? If KL had not intervened would you of had a club to be debating the future of? As my previous post how could we legislate for player kissing the badge one minute and refusing to play and forcing a transfer the next, thank god they did such a good job getting the best deal for SFC so allowing us to rebuild over the coming months. fascia123
  • Score: 3

4:58pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

fascia123 wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
Rudolf Hucker wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place.
We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.
yo montecristo,
I will copy and save your comment, and post it again at the end of the season.If you are right, then I will gladly buy you a drink. If you are wrong, then you buy me a drink and post a big fat SORRY on here. Deal?
Rudolf I dont make deals its just my opinion that the Board have been incompetent, sold players when they didnt need to, and did not secure replacements beforehand. And now that we are less than a week from the start of the season, Reed who earlier claimed to have vast resources of knowledge as to available players, hits the panic button and does a deal with Hull which can only be described as breathtakingly poor. I have yet to find one person who thinks Long is worth 12m, he is a championship striker at best. As to whether we stay up, no comment, other than that the club has taken a huge risk in selling so many top players and expecting those that have come in to replace them like for like. I am frankly doubtful. I am however quite happy to be proved wrong.Why did the club have to gamble with our future though?
I suppose the gambling you refer to goes back to NC going?

If KL had not intervened would you of had a club to be debating the future of?

As my previous post how could we legislate for player kissing the badge one minute and refusing to play and forcing a transfer the next, thank god they did such a good job getting the best deal for SFC so allowing us to rebuild over the coming months.
Its one of life's unanswerable questions fascia,up there with questions like,when are they going to finish building the Shard,and put that little pointy bit,on the top?
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rudolf Hucker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place. We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.[/p][/quote]yo montecristo, I will copy and save your comment, and post it again at the end of the season.If you are right, then I will gladly buy you a drink. If you are wrong, then you buy me a drink and post a big fat SORRY on here. Deal?[/p][/quote]Rudolf I dont make deals its just my opinion that the Board have been incompetent, sold players when they didnt need to, and did not secure replacements beforehand. And now that we are less than a week from the start of the season, Reed who earlier claimed to have vast resources of knowledge as to available players, hits the panic button and does a deal with Hull which can only be described as breathtakingly poor. I have yet to find one person who thinks Long is worth 12m, he is a championship striker at best. As to whether we stay up, no comment, other than that the club has taken a huge risk in selling so many top players and expecting those that have come in to replace them like for like. I am frankly doubtful. I am however quite happy to be proved wrong.Why did the club have to gamble with our future though?[/p][/quote]I suppose the gambling you refer to goes back to NC going? If KL had not intervened would you of had a club to be debating the future of? As my previous post how could we legislate for player kissing the badge one minute and refusing to play and forcing a transfer the next, thank god they did such a good job getting the best deal for SFC so allowing us to rebuild over the coming months.[/p][/quote]Its one of life's unanswerable questions fascia,up there with questions like,when are they going to finish building the Shard,and put that little pointy bit,on the top? Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

4:59pm Wed 13 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Still, we've got our stripes back and that's what really matters isn't it?
To be honest - I was outside the Stadium yesterday - looking at the Large Posters with the news the Stripes are back - and It's Happening and it was a long way from FIRST CLASS.

The large posters with Players on them created great excitement for the Fans - however with the Summer Exodus - it was difficult for the Club.

After plenty of schoolboy errors by the powers to be and Board - we have a few Players signed up - could do with strengthening in defence and getting one more name in. COYR+WS
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Still, we've got our stripes back and that's what really matters isn't it?[/p][/quote]To be honest - I was outside the Stadium yesterday - looking at the Large Posters with the news the Stripes are back - and It's Happening and it was a long way from FIRST CLASS. The large posters with Players on them created great excitement for the Fans - however with the Summer Exodus - it was difficult for the Club. After plenty of schoolboy errors by the powers to be and Board - we have a few Players signed up - could do with strengthening in defence and getting one more name in. COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 0

5:03pm Wed 13 Aug 14

montecristosaint says...

legod7 wrote:
I wonder how many of the neggies who regularly post on here actually go to SMS every week to watch the Saints. I am a season ticket holder and would NEVER run the club down. It was hard being positive, especially when Wupert was in charge , but we are in a much stronger position now than we have been for a long time.
nobody is running the club down but fans have a right to expect our top players to be retained not flogged at the first opportunity. It always happens at Saints, never anywhere else, is Everton any bigger I think not, and yet they hold on to theirs end of. The club have moved on from the Dell, fans now expect some ambition, but it seems that there are fans whose minds are still aligned with Southampton the football minnow which played at the Dell to crowds of 15,000. Its got to stop, the club monitors these sites and if a consensus is allowed to develop that fans are prepared to accept any shoddy treatment that is precisely what we will get.We cannot own shares in the club , and so therefore the only pressure we can bring to bear is our collective buying power through the turn stiles. I want to see a proper plan in place for the development of the club, since Cortese left all semblance of an ordered progression has been dropped and we are left facing mediocrity unless we are very lucky. The proof is that all the sales have been knee jerk reactions to circumstances, namely players sting that they wanted to leave. No surprise then that Morgan decided to jump on the same bandwagon who wouldnt. We need him to stay and we need the appointment of a proper experienced and qualified CEO and if that man does not al least have the same qualifications I have I will start throwing my toys out of the pram also in sympathy with the players. Whatever you might think Reed and Krueger do not have the support of the players much less the majority of fans, and Liebherr needs to understand that she made a huge mistake in making the appointments she did. A CEO has to hold the fort, maintain discipline, other wise anarchy sets in and you get what we have seen at Southampton football club. Frankly for all his perceived faults, I miss Cortese.
[quote][p][bold]legod7[/bold] wrote: I wonder how many of the neggies who regularly post on here actually go to SMS every week to watch the Saints. I am a season ticket holder and would NEVER run the club down. It was hard being positive, especially when Wupert was in charge , but we are in a much stronger position now than we have been for a long time.[/p][/quote]nobody is running the club down but fans have a right to expect our top players to be retained not flogged at the first opportunity. It always happens at Saints, never anywhere else, is Everton any bigger I think not, and yet they hold on to theirs end of. The club have moved on from the Dell, fans now expect some ambition, but it seems that there are fans whose minds are still aligned with Southampton the football minnow which played at the Dell to crowds of 15,000. Its got to stop, the club monitors these sites and if a consensus is allowed to develop that fans are prepared to accept any shoddy treatment that is precisely what we will get.We cannot own shares in the club , and so therefore the only pressure we can bring to bear is our collective buying power through the turn stiles. I want to see a proper plan in place for the development of the club, since Cortese left all semblance of an ordered progression has been dropped and we are left facing mediocrity unless we are very lucky. The proof is that all the sales have been knee jerk reactions to circumstances, namely players sting that they wanted to leave. No surprise then that Morgan decided to jump on the same bandwagon who wouldnt. We need him to stay and we need the appointment of a proper experienced and qualified CEO and if that man does not al least have the same qualifications I have I will start throwing my toys out of the pram also in sympathy with the players. Whatever you might think Reed and Krueger do not have the support of the players much less the majority of fans, and Liebherr needs to understand that she made a huge mistake in making the appointments she did. A CEO has to hold the fort, maintain discipline, other wise anarchy sets in and you get what we have seen at Southampton football club. Frankly for all his perceived faults, I miss Cortese. montecristosaint
  • Score: 0

5:09pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

montecristosaint wrote:
legod7 wrote:
I wonder how many of the neggies who regularly post on here actually go to SMS every week to watch the Saints. I am a season ticket holder and would NEVER run the club down. It was hard being positive, especially when Wupert was in charge , but we are in a much stronger position now than we have been for a long time.
nobody is running the club down but fans have a right to expect our top players to be retained not flogged at the first opportunity. It always happens at Saints, never anywhere else, is Everton any bigger I think not, and yet they hold on to theirs end of. The club have moved on from the Dell, fans now expect some ambition, but it seems that there are fans whose minds are still aligned with Southampton the football minnow which played at the Dell to crowds of 15,000. Its got to stop, the club monitors these sites and if a consensus is allowed to develop that fans are prepared to accept any shoddy treatment that is precisely what we will get.We cannot own shares in the club , and so therefore the only pressure we can bring to bear is our collective buying power through the turn stiles. I want to see a proper plan in place for the development of the club, since Cortese left all semblance of an ordered progression has been dropped and we are left facing mediocrity unless we are very lucky. The proof is that all the sales have been knee jerk reactions to circumstances, namely players sting that they wanted to leave. No surprise then that Morgan decided to jump on the same bandwagon who wouldnt. We need him to stay and we need the appointment of a proper experienced and qualified CEO and if that man does not al least have the same qualifications I have I will start throwing my toys out of the pram also in sympathy with the players. Whatever you might think Reed and Krueger do not have the support of the players much less the majority of fans, and Liebherr needs to understand that she made a huge mistake in making the appointments she did. A CEO has to hold the fort, maintain discipline, other wise anarchy sets in and you get what we have seen at Southampton football club. Frankly for all his perceived faults, I miss Cortese.
Two opposing views of Cortese in the space of three posts..one of you must be right.
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]legod7[/bold] wrote: I wonder how many of the neggies who regularly post on here actually go to SMS every week to watch the Saints. I am a season ticket holder and would NEVER run the club down. It was hard being positive, especially when Wupert was in charge , but we are in a much stronger position now than we have been for a long time.[/p][/quote]nobody is running the club down but fans have a right to expect our top players to be retained not flogged at the first opportunity. It always happens at Saints, never anywhere else, is Everton any bigger I think not, and yet they hold on to theirs end of. The club have moved on from the Dell, fans now expect some ambition, but it seems that there are fans whose minds are still aligned with Southampton the football minnow which played at the Dell to crowds of 15,000. Its got to stop, the club monitors these sites and if a consensus is allowed to develop that fans are prepared to accept any shoddy treatment that is precisely what we will get.We cannot own shares in the club , and so therefore the only pressure we can bring to bear is our collective buying power through the turn stiles. I want to see a proper plan in place for the development of the club, since Cortese left all semblance of an ordered progression has been dropped and we are left facing mediocrity unless we are very lucky. The proof is that all the sales have been knee jerk reactions to circumstances, namely players sting that they wanted to leave. No surprise then that Morgan decided to jump on the same bandwagon who wouldnt. We need him to stay and we need the appointment of a proper experienced and qualified CEO and if that man does not al least have the same qualifications I have I will start throwing my toys out of the pram also in sympathy with the players. Whatever you might think Reed and Krueger do not have the support of the players much less the majority of fans, and Liebherr needs to understand that she made a huge mistake in making the appointments she did. A CEO has to hold the fort, maintain discipline, other wise anarchy sets in and you get what we have seen at Southampton football club. Frankly for all his perceived faults, I miss Cortese.[/p][/quote]Two opposing views of Cortese in the space of three posts..one of you must be right. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

5:12pm Wed 13 Aug 14

long memory says...

Mosschops wrote:
We've just signed the best striker from a mid table prem team also in Europe and we're moaning. The same people who moaned that we sold our best players. The same ones who moaned we weren't spending the money because of asset stripping (which was always nonsense), that we were missing out on players because we refused to pay over the odds. Now when we pay a couple of million over the odds they moan we have overpaid. They moan because they wanted someone else even though that someone else either didn't want to come or isn't the right player. Probably the same ones who moaned at Jay Rod when he wasnt instantly amazing. They remind me of a spoilt child who cries because they got rainbow dash when they wanted pinky pie pony. Grow up and be grateful - he's a good player the best of his type available and that we all agreed we needed and a Saint.
Mosschops, agree with you 100%.
[quote][p][bold]Mosschops[/bold] wrote: We've just signed the best striker from a mid table prem team also in Europe and we're moaning. The same people who moaned that we sold our best players. The same ones who moaned we weren't spending the money because of asset stripping (which was always nonsense), that we were missing out on players because we refused to pay over the odds. Now when we pay a couple of million over the odds they moan we have overpaid. They moan because they wanted someone else even though that someone else either didn't want to come or isn't the right player. Probably the same ones who moaned at Jay Rod when he wasnt instantly amazing. They remind me of a spoilt child who cries because they got rainbow dash when they wanted pinky pie pony. Grow up and be grateful - he's a good player the best of his type available and that we all agreed we needed and a Saint.[/p][/quote]Mosschops, agree with you 100%. long memory
  • Score: 4

5:14pm Wed 13 Aug 14

GHamilton says...

Evidently we are in a race with Everton to sign Johnathan Biabiany...a pacey winger from Parma; be iteresting to see who he'll want to go to.
Evidently we are in a race with Everton to sign Johnathan Biabiany...a pacey winger from Parma; be iteresting to see who he'll want to go to. GHamilton
  • Score: 0

5:21pm Wed 13 Aug 14

montecristosaint says...

fascia123 wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
Rudolf Hucker wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place.
We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.
yo montecristo,
I will copy and save your comment, and post it again at the end of the season.If you are right, then I will gladly buy you a drink. If you are wrong, then you buy me a drink and post a big fat SORRY on here. Deal?
Rudolf I dont make deals its just my opinion that the Board have been incompetent, sold players when they didnt need to, and did not secure replacements beforehand. And now that we are less than a week from the start of the season, Reed who earlier claimed to have vast resources of knowledge as to available players, hits the panic button and does a deal with Hull which can only be described as breathtakingly poor. I have yet to find one person who thinks Long is worth 12m, he is a championship striker at best. As to whether we stay up, no comment, other than that the club has taken a huge risk in selling so many top players and expecting those that have come in to replace them like for like. I am frankly doubtful. I am however quite happy to be proved wrong.Why did the club have to gamble with our future though?
I suppose the gambling you refer to goes back to NC going?

If KL had not intervened would you of had a club to be debating the future of?

As my previous post how could we legislate for player kissing the badge one minute and refusing to play and forcing a transfer the next, thank god they did such a good job getting the best deal for SFC so allowing us to rebuild over the coming months.
Nicola leaving when he did was a bad move poor timing at best his job was not complete and it brought massive instability.
KL did not as you put it intervene in a positive way she jumped the gun sought to change the administration of the club too soon, The time to have done it is when we had qualified for Europe not before. Patient compromise could have brought about Cortese agreement to the sale of Shaw, if need be. The events of this summer are the result of gross inexperience at corporate level, and the appointment of men not p to the jobs they were given. Reed s performance in a particular is horrifying, For the money he proposes to spend on Long, we could have bought Redmond and Byram. You are not going to tell me that would not have been money well spent. Remember, I want the same thing you do, a successful football club in keeping with a growing community. And that does not mean settling for mid table mediocrity either. Do you realize , that here on the continent, Saints are seen as the next big thing in English football. Do you? And all because of one wonderful season when we threatened to break down the walls of Jericho literally. We, I think , would like to see more of the same. We could have got Rojo, had we been more aggressive when negotiating instead of trying to get a cut price deal. That we haven t is down to Reed, not United, the deal could have been closed quite quickly Sporting are broke and the player wanted to leave.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rudolf Hucker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place. We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.[/p][/quote]yo montecristo, I will copy and save your comment, and post it again at the end of the season.If you are right, then I will gladly buy you a drink. If you are wrong, then you buy me a drink and post a big fat SORRY on here. Deal?[/p][/quote]Rudolf I dont make deals its just my opinion that the Board have been incompetent, sold players when they didnt need to, and did not secure replacements beforehand. And now that we are less than a week from the start of the season, Reed who earlier claimed to have vast resources of knowledge as to available players, hits the panic button and does a deal with Hull which can only be described as breathtakingly poor. I have yet to find one person who thinks Long is worth 12m, he is a championship striker at best. As to whether we stay up, no comment, other than that the club has taken a huge risk in selling so many top players and expecting those that have come in to replace them like for like. I am frankly doubtful. I am however quite happy to be proved wrong.Why did the club have to gamble with our future though?[/p][/quote]I suppose the gambling you refer to goes back to NC going? If KL had not intervened would you of had a club to be debating the future of? As my previous post how could we legislate for player kissing the badge one minute and refusing to play and forcing a transfer the next, thank god they did such a good job getting the best deal for SFC so allowing us to rebuild over the coming months.[/p][/quote]Nicola leaving when he did was a bad move poor timing at best his job was not complete and it brought massive instability. KL did not as you put it intervene in a positive way she jumped the gun sought to change the administration of the club too soon, The time to have done it is when we had qualified for Europe not before. Patient compromise could have brought about Cortese agreement to the sale of Shaw, if need be. The events of this summer are the result of gross inexperience at corporate level, and the appointment of men not p to the jobs they were given. Reed s performance in a particular is horrifying, For the money he proposes to spend on Long, we could have bought Redmond and Byram. You are not going to tell me that would not have been money well spent. Remember, I want the same thing you do, a successful football club in keeping with a growing community. And that does not mean settling for mid table mediocrity either. Do you realize , that here on the continent, Saints are seen as the next big thing in English football. Do you? And all because of one wonderful season when we threatened to break down the walls of Jericho literally. We, I think , would like to see more of the same. We could have got Rojo, had we been more aggressive when negotiating instead of trying to get a cut price deal. That we haven t is down to Reed, not United, the deal could have been closed quite quickly Sporting are broke and the player wanted to leave. montecristosaint
  • Score: -3

5:21pm Wed 13 Aug 14

GHamilton says...

You know Mosschops, your right, we shoud all have exactly the same opinion as you., and there I was thinking this was a forum for people to express their thoughts and opinions the way they see it.... how stupid of me!
You know Mosschops, your right, we shoud all have exactly the same opinion as you., and there I was thinking this was a forum for people to express their thoughts and opinions the way they see it.... how stupid of me! GHamilton
  • Score: -6

5:24pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Sainty saint saint says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
We will be his third club this year You surely must ask why the other 2 have not fought to keep him
That is a fair comment Saintsayer,but then Crouchy had been around a bit too,remember?
'The Crouch Defence' - always a worrying sign when that's wheeled out!
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: We will be his third club this year You surely must ask why the other 2 have not fought to keep him[/p][/quote]That is a fair comment Saintsayer,but then Crouchy had been around a bit too,remember?[/p][/quote]'The Crouch Defence' - always a worrying sign when that's wheeled out! Sainty saint saint
  • Score: -1

5:28pm Wed 13 Aug 14

one in the crowd says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
We will be his third club this year You surely must ask why the other 2 have not fought to keep him
That is a fair comment Saintsayer,but then Crouchy had been around a bit too,remember?
'The Crouch Defence' - always a worrying sign when that's wheeled out!
If he has any sense it won't be Saints that's for sure,
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: We will be his third club this year You surely must ask why the other 2 have not fought to keep him[/p][/quote]That is a fair comment Saintsayer,but then Crouchy had been around a bit too,remember?[/p][/quote]'The Crouch Defence' - always a worrying sign when that's wheeled out![/p][/quote]If he has any sense it won't be Saints that's for sure, one in the crowd
  • Score: -5

5:28pm Wed 13 Aug 14

saintbobby says...

Come on guys, this is all chat and supposition. The best thing to do is watch the game on Sunday and see how it goes.

The cookie crumbled rather badly giving us Anfield to start and then having to start all over again putting a team on the field, we should hold our breath and give everyone a chance. Even then it would be reasonable to give them a few games to settle.

We have had to face an antagonistic press since May, most of whom have really enjoyed rubbing it in. Stuff them!

Even today Martin Samuel in the Daily Mail is arguing that Spider's contract now is not the same because of all the changes at the club. Are these guys actually for real?

For me, it is still the Saints - FOREVER!!
Come on guys, this is all chat and supposition. The best thing to do is watch the game on Sunday and see how it goes. The cookie crumbled rather badly giving us Anfield to start and then having to start all over again putting a team on the field, we should hold our breath and give everyone a chance. Even then it would be reasonable to give them a few games to settle. We have had to face an antagonistic press since May, most of whom have really enjoyed rubbing it in. Stuff them! Even today Martin Samuel in the Daily Mail is arguing that Spider's contract now is not the same because of all the changes at the club. Are these guys actually for real? For me, it is still the Saints - FOREVER!! saintbobby
  • Score: 5

5:30pm Wed 13 Aug 14

long memory says...

montecristosaint wrote:
Ozmosis wrote:
It seems a heavy price tag but, knowing that we have money due to player sales, clubs were always going to hold us to ransom.
its no excuse Reed should have found replacements before selling players on, sheer incomptence in my view. Reed should resign.
Correct me if I am wrong Montecristo,but I seem to remember you and other neggies saying that KL and the other members of the board were asset stripping the club to sell it on, I have not heard this mentioned in the last couple of weeks,wonder why?
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ozmosis[/bold] wrote: It seems a heavy price tag but, knowing that we have money due to player sales, clubs were always going to hold us to ransom.[/p][/quote]its no excuse Reed should have found replacements before selling players on, sheer incomptence in my view. Reed should resign.[/p][/quote]Correct me if I am wrong Montecristo,but I seem to remember you and other neggies saying that KL and the other members of the board were asset stripping the club to sell it on, I have not heard this mentioned in the last couple of weeks,wonder why? long memory
  • Score: 6

5:31pm Wed 13 Aug 14

one in the crowd says...

GHamilton wrote:
Evidently we are in a race with Everton to sign Johnathan Biabiany...a pacey winger from Parma; be iteresting to see who he'll want to go to.
If he has any sense it won't be Saints that's for sure,
[quote][p][bold]GHamilton[/bold] wrote: Evidently we are in a race with Everton to sign Johnathan Biabiany...a pacey winger from Parma; be iteresting to see who he'll want to go to.[/p][/quote]If he has any sense it won't be Saints that's for sure, one in the crowd
  • Score: -7

5:31pm Wed 13 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

Would the last happy clapper to leave the building kindly turn out our wonderful led lights out.

This is going from bad to worse... Think about it seriously, Shane Long, he is basically b*******y rubbish, no offence but... , even the most ardent HC must realise that £12.5m spent on a f******g donkey will lead to one thing.

Keep clapping boys... you board needs you.
Would the last happy clapper to leave the building kindly turn out our wonderful led lights out. This is going from bad to worse... Think about it seriously, Shane Long, he is basically b*******y rubbish, no offence but... , even the most ardent HC must realise that £12.5m spent on a f******g donkey will lead to one thing. Keep clapping boys... you board needs you. costa gaz
  • Score: -9

5:34pm Wed 13 Aug 14

montecristosaint says...

Rupert Lowe's Backside wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place.
We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.
So would you rather have the same players we had last year, all disgruntled and not giving too flying f**ks about RoKo?

Im disappointed that the board didnt have RoKo signed and ready as soon as MoPo left (we all knew he would) At least the new manager may have been able to talk to the players first and 'win' them over.

We set a dangerous precedent by selling SRL so early. The dominoes then fell...

So the board decided it was time to get the cash and start again with RoKo. Suck it up mate, and support the team and cheer Shane on!
I just wish I could agree with you. SRL leaving no one had an issue with least of all me. But the others?? We still have not been told the full story, why did Cortese Pochettino and the aforementioned players all leave or even want to do so? Until that question is properly answered by Liebherr herself there will be no peace I reckon. Fans demand to know. The club have taken a huge risk in doing what they have it could easily all go wrong and our premiership status could be forfeit as a result if the new players dont jell.As for Shane Long , come on, you know **** well hes not a 12m player or even a premiership player really. His best years were down in the Championship with Reading , says everything. Honestly we could have got Chicharito for 15 m and paid him accordingly. Im sorry but I put it down to a lack of ambition as well as vision. Chicharito would have been just what the doctor ordered a predator who knows where the goal is. He is worth the money Long simply is not. Lets hope he changes his mind or fails his medical. St Mary please come to our aid lol
[quote][p][bold]Rupert Lowe's Backside[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place. We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.[/p][/quote]So would you rather have the same players we had last year, all disgruntled and not giving too flying f**ks about RoKo? Im disappointed that the board didnt have RoKo signed and ready as soon as MoPo left (we all knew he would) At least the new manager may have been able to talk to the players first and 'win' them over. We set a dangerous precedent by selling SRL so early. The dominoes then fell... So the board decided it was time to get the cash and start again with RoKo. Suck it up mate, and support the team and cheer Shane on![/p][/quote]I just wish I could agree with you. SRL leaving no one had an issue with least of all me. But the others?? We still have not been told the full story, why did Cortese Pochettino and the aforementioned players all leave or even want to do so? Until that question is properly answered by Liebherr herself there will be no peace I reckon. Fans demand to know. The club have taken a huge risk in doing what they have it could easily all go wrong and our premiership status could be forfeit as a result if the new players dont jell.As for Shane Long , come on, you know **** well hes not a 12m player or even a premiership player really. His best years were down in the Championship with Reading , says everything. Honestly we could have got Chicharito for 15 m and paid him accordingly. Im sorry but I put it down to a lack of ambition as well as vision. Chicharito would have been just what the doctor ordered a predator who knows where the goal is. He is worth the money Long simply is not. Lets hope he changes his mind or fails his medical. St Mary please come to our aid lol montecristosaint
  • Score: -4

5:38pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

one in the crowd wrote:
GHamilton wrote:
Evidently we are in a race with Everton to sign Johnathan Biabiany...a pacey winger from Parma; be iteresting to see who he'll want to go to.
If he has any sense it won't be Saints that's for sure,
Search,you are just peeved,because you were adamant that there would be no more signings..and you've been proved wrong.So no one is remotely likely to take anything else you say on here seriously.
[quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GHamilton[/bold] wrote: Evidently we are in a race with Everton to sign Johnathan Biabiany...a pacey winger from Parma; be iteresting to see who he'll want to go to.[/p][/quote]If he has any sense it won't be Saints that's for sure,[/p][/quote]Search,you are just peeved,because you were adamant that there would be no more signings..and you've been proved wrong.So no one is remotely likely to take anything else you say on here seriously. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 4

5:41pm Wed 13 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

montecristosaint wrote:
Rupert Lowe's Backside wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place.
We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.
So would you rather have the same players we had last year, all disgruntled and not giving too flying f**ks about RoKo?

Im disappointed that the board didnt have RoKo signed and ready as soon as MoPo left (we all knew he would) At least the new manager may have been able to talk to the players first and 'win' them over.

We set a dangerous precedent by selling SRL so early. The dominoes then fell...

So the board decided it was time to get the cash and start again with RoKo. Suck it up mate, and support the team and cheer Shane on!
I just wish I could agree with you. SRL leaving no one had an issue with least of all me. But the others?? We still have not been told the full story, why did Cortese Pochettino and the aforementioned players all leave or even want to do so? Until that question is properly answered by Liebherr herself there will be no peace I reckon. Fans demand to know. The club have taken a huge risk in doing what they have it could easily all go wrong and our premiership status could be forfeit as a result if the new players dont jell.As for Shane Long , come on, you know **** well hes not a 12m player or even a premiership player really. His best years were down in the Championship with Reading , says everything. Honestly we could have got Chicharito for 15 m and paid him accordingly. Im sorry but I put it down to a lack of ambition as well as vision. Chicharito would have been just what the doctor ordered a predator who knows where the goal is. He is worth the money Long simply is not. Lets hope he changes his mind or fails his medical. St Mary please come to our aid lol
Obviously it is fair enough that you should hold these views, not everyone would agree with you, we have all said we could have welcomed Hernandez, but he clearly thought he was too good for us, he clearly stated he didn't want to come here, so clearly we wouldn't want him, we have had enough of self opinionated players. Although the fee quoted is too high, Shane Long has a good Premiership c.v. and if he wants to play for us and do his best I will be happy to give him my backing and a chance to prove the neggies wrong.
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rupert Lowe's Backside[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place. We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.[/p][/quote]So would you rather have the same players we had last year, all disgruntled and not giving too flying f**ks about RoKo? Im disappointed that the board didnt have RoKo signed and ready as soon as MoPo left (we all knew he would) At least the new manager may have been able to talk to the players first and 'win' them over. We set a dangerous precedent by selling SRL so early. The dominoes then fell... So the board decided it was time to get the cash and start again with RoKo. Suck it up mate, and support the team and cheer Shane on![/p][/quote]I just wish I could agree with you. SRL leaving no one had an issue with least of all me. But the others?? We still have not been told the full story, why did Cortese Pochettino and the aforementioned players all leave or even want to do so? Until that question is properly answered by Liebherr herself there will be no peace I reckon. Fans demand to know. The club have taken a huge risk in doing what they have it could easily all go wrong and our premiership status could be forfeit as a result if the new players dont jell.As for Shane Long , come on, you know **** well hes not a 12m player or even a premiership player really. His best years were down in the Championship with Reading , says everything. Honestly we could have got Chicharito for 15 m and paid him accordingly. Im sorry but I put it down to a lack of ambition as well as vision. Chicharito would have been just what the doctor ordered a predator who knows where the goal is. He is worth the money Long simply is not. Lets hope he changes his mind or fails his medical. St Mary please come to our aid lol[/p][/quote]Obviously it is fair enough that you should hold these views, not everyone would agree with you, we have all said we could have welcomed Hernandez, but he clearly thought he was too good for us, he clearly stated he didn't want to come here, so clearly we wouldn't want him, we have had enough of self opinionated players. Although the fee quoted is too high, Shane Long has a good Premiership c.v. and if he wants to play for us and do his best I will be happy to give him my backing and a chance to prove the neggies wrong. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 3

5:43pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
We will be his third club this year You surely must ask why the other 2 have not fought to keep him
That is a fair comment Saintsayer,but then Crouchy had been around a bit too,remember?
'The Crouch Defence' - always a worrying sign when that's wheeled out!
Well he went on to play for our "parent club", and then England.Couldn't have been all bad?
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: We will be his third club this year You surely must ask why the other 2 have not fought to keep him[/p][/quote]That is a fair comment Saintsayer,but then Crouchy had been around a bit too,remember?[/p][/quote]'The Crouch Defence' - always a worrying sign when that's wheeled out![/p][/quote]Well he went on to play for our "parent club", and then England.Couldn't have been all bad? Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

5:44pm Wed 13 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

one in the crowd wrote:
GHamilton wrote:
Evidently we are in a race with Everton to sign Johnathan Biabiany...a pacey winger from Parma; be iteresting to see who he'll want to go to.
If he has any sense it won't be Saints that's for sure,
Quite right, if he has any real sense he will join the Premier hordes on the benches at Scouseland.
[quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GHamilton[/bold] wrote: Evidently we are in a race with Everton to sign Johnathan Biabiany...a pacey winger from Parma; be iteresting to see who he'll want to go to.[/p][/quote]If he has any sense it won't be Saints that's for sure,[/p][/quote]Quite right, if he has any real sense he will join the Premier hordes on the benches at Scouseland. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

5:45pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Tigersteve50 says...

From a Hull City Supporter. I agree £12 million is a lot of cash for what I would call a box to box player but not a 20 goal a year player.. Great business for us £5.5 million profit for 6 months not so bad but I for one think you have a great player who causes problems for all defenders. He never stops grafting and i believe the Saints fans will love the fella. The only problem i see is his Mrs, he can't pee without asking her ;-)
Good luck to Shane Long and good luck to you, hope you have another great season. Steve
From a Hull City Supporter. I agree £12 million is a lot of cash for what I would call a box to box player but not a 20 goal a year player.. Great business for us £5.5 million profit for 6 months not so bad but I for one think you have a great player who causes problems for all defenders. He never stops grafting and i believe the Saints fans will love the fella. The only problem i see is his Mrs, he can't pee without asking her ;-) Good luck to Shane Long and good luck to you, hope you have another great season. Steve Tigersteve50
  • Score: 21

5:51pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

Tigersteve50 wrote:
From a Hull City Supporter. I agree £12 million is a lot of cash for what I would call a box to box player but not a 20 goal a year player.. Great business for us £5.5 million profit for 6 months not so bad but I for one think you have a great player who causes problems for all defenders. He never stops grafting and i believe the Saints fans will love the fella. The only problem i see is his Mrs, he can't pee without asking her ;-)
Good luck to Shane Long and good luck to you, hope you have another great season. Steve
Respect ....................
......... and like wise !!
[quote][p][bold]Tigersteve50[/bold] wrote: From a Hull City Supporter. I agree £12 million is a lot of cash for what I would call a box to box player but not a 20 goal a year player.. Great business for us £5.5 million profit for 6 months not so bad but I for one think you have a great player who causes problems for all defenders. He never stops grafting and i believe the Saints fans will love the fella. The only problem i see is his Mrs, he can't pee without asking her ;-) Good luck to Shane Long and good luck to you, hope you have another great season. Steve[/p][/quote]Respect .................... ......... and like wise !! Buddy SFC
  • Score: 7

5:52pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Gossie. says...

Very expensive, and not sure he's really that much better than Billy, hope to be proved wrong, but he'll have to produce more goals than last season.
Very expensive, and not sure he's really that much better than Billy, hope to be proved wrong, but he'll have to produce more goals than last season. Gossie.
  • Score: 2

5:52pm Wed 13 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems.

Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger.

Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.
Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems. Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger. Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE. costa gaz
  • Score: -4

5:54pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Tigersteve50 wrote:
From a Hull City Supporter. I agree £12 million is a lot of cash for what I would call a box to box player but not a 20 goal a year player.. Great business for us £5.5 million profit for 6 months not so bad but I for one think you have a great player who causes problems for all defenders. He never stops grafting and i believe the Saints fans will love the fella. The only problem i see is his Mrs, he can't pee without asking her ;-)
Good luck to Shane Long and good luck to you, hope you have another great season. Steve
Let's hope he doesn't get a prostate problem then.
[quote][p][bold]Tigersteve50[/bold] wrote: From a Hull City Supporter. I agree £12 million is a lot of cash for what I would call a box to box player but not a 20 goal a year player.. Great business for us £5.5 million profit for 6 months not so bad but I for one think you have a great player who causes problems for all defenders. He never stops grafting and i believe the Saints fans will love the fella. The only problem i see is his Mrs, he can't pee without asking her ;-) Good luck to Shane Long and good luck to you, hope you have another great season. Steve[/p][/quote]Let's hope he doesn't get a prostate problem then. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 3

5:58pm Wed 13 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

montecristosaint wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
Rudolf Hucker wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place.
We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.
yo montecristo,
I will copy and save your comment, and post it again at the end of the season.If you are right, then I will gladly buy you a drink. If you are wrong, then you buy me a drink and post a big fat SORRY on here. Deal?
Rudolf I dont make deals its just my opinion that the Board have been incompetent, sold players when they didnt need to, and did not secure replacements beforehand. And now that we are less than a week from the start of the season, Reed who earlier claimed to have vast resources of knowledge as to available players, hits the panic button and does a deal with Hull which can only be described as breathtakingly poor. I have yet to find one person who thinks Long is worth 12m, he is a championship striker at best. As to whether we stay up, no comment, other than that the club has taken a huge risk in selling so many top players and expecting those that have come in to replace them like for like. I am frankly doubtful. I am however quite happy to be proved wrong.Why did the club have to gamble with our future though?
I suppose the gambling you refer to goes back to NC going?

If KL had not intervened would you of had a club to be debating the future of?

As my previous post how could we legislate for player kissing the badge one minute and refusing to play and forcing a transfer the next, thank god they did such a good job getting the best deal for SFC so allowing us to rebuild over the coming months.
Nicola leaving when he did was a bad move poor timing at best his job was not complete and it brought massive instability.
KL did not as you put it intervene in a positive way she jumped the gun sought to change the administration of the club too soon, The time to have done it is when we had qualified for Europe not before. Patient compromise could have brought about Cortese agreement to the sale of Shaw, if need be. The events of this summer are the result of gross inexperience at corporate level, and the appointment of men not p to the jobs they were given. Reed s performance in a particular is horrifying, For the money he proposes to spend on Long, we could have bought Redmond and Byram. You are not going to tell me that would not have been money well spent. Remember, I want the same thing you do, a successful football club in keeping with a growing community. And that does not mean settling for mid table mediocrity either. Do you realize , that here on the continent, Saints are seen as the next big thing in English football. Do you? And all because of one wonderful season when we threatened to break down the walls of Jericho literally. We, I think , would like to see more of the same. We could have got Rojo, had we been more aggressive when negotiating instead of trying to get a cut price deal. That we haven t is down to Reed, not United, the deal could have been closed quite quickly Sporting are broke and the player wanted to leave.
There is so much wrong about this post, I don't know where to start, but basically you have taken a load of hearsay and turned it into a totally negative article full of speculation. You post it all as fact when it is nothing other than opinion, we have discussed it so often with counter arguments that much of it is open to dispute. It appears that we have escaped lightly over Rojo, it was a minefield which could have blown up in our faces. I am not a fan of Redmond, and Byram is one for the future maybe. You obsession with Les Reeds is affecting your judgement, good or bad he is the best we have got and we must continue to monitor what he is doing and perhaps pass judgement later.
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rudolf Hucker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place. We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.[/p][/quote]yo montecristo, I will copy and save your comment, and post it again at the end of the season.If you are right, then I will gladly buy you a drink. If you are wrong, then you buy me a drink and post a big fat SORRY on here. Deal?[/p][/quote]Rudolf I dont make deals its just my opinion that the Board have been incompetent, sold players when they didnt need to, and did not secure replacements beforehand. And now that we are less than a week from the start of the season, Reed who earlier claimed to have vast resources of knowledge as to available players, hits the panic button and does a deal with Hull which can only be described as breathtakingly poor. I have yet to find one person who thinks Long is worth 12m, he is a championship striker at best. As to whether we stay up, no comment, other than that the club has taken a huge risk in selling so many top players and expecting those that have come in to replace them like for like. I am frankly doubtful. I am however quite happy to be proved wrong.Why did the club have to gamble with our future though?[/p][/quote]I suppose the gambling you refer to goes back to NC going? If KL had not intervened would you of had a club to be debating the future of? As my previous post how could we legislate for player kissing the badge one minute and refusing to play and forcing a transfer the next, thank god they did such a good job getting the best deal for SFC so allowing us to rebuild over the coming months.[/p][/quote]Nicola leaving when he did was a bad move poor timing at best his job was not complete and it brought massive instability. KL did not as you put it intervene in a positive way she jumped the gun sought to change the administration of the club too soon, The time to have done it is when we had qualified for Europe not before. Patient compromise could have brought about Cortese agreement to the sale of Shaw, if need be. The events of this summer are the result of gross inexperience at corporate level, and the appointment of men not p to the jobs they were given. Reed s performance in a particular is horrifying, For the money he proposes to spend on Long, we could have bought Redmond and Byram. You are not going to tell me that would not have been money well spent. Remember, I want the same thing you do, a successful football club in keeping with a growing community. And that does not mean settling for mid table mediocrity either. Do you realize , that here on the continent, Saints are seen as the next big thing in English football. Do you? And all because of one wonderful season when we threatened to break down the walls of Jericho literally. We, I think , would like to see more of the same. We could have got Rojo, had we been more aggressive when negotiating instead of trying to get a cut price deal. That we haven t is down to Reed, not United, the deal could have been closed quite quickly Sporting are broke and the player wanted to leave.[/p][/quote]There is so much wrong about this post, I don't know where to start, but basically you have taken a load of hearsay and turned it into a totally negative article full of speculation. You post it all as fact when it is nothing other than opinion, we have discussed it so often with counter arguments that much of it is open to dispute. It appears that we have escaped lightly over Rojo, it was a minefield which could have blown up in our faces. I am not a fan of Redmond, and Byram is one for the future maybe. You obsession with Les Reeds is affecting your judgement, good or bad he is the best we have got and we must continue to monitor what he is doing and perhaps pass judgement later. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 5

5:59pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

costa gaz wrote:
Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems.

Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger.

Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.
Don't forget the board are working on improving our revenues.

Just received an email offering corporate customers the chance to bring a guest to the first game of the season at half price. Last season that particular package was sold out for the whole season and now they're offering a discount on the opening game!

But they've not facked right up - honest! CLAP CLAP CLAP....
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems. Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger. Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.[/p][/quote]Don't forget the board are working on improving our revenues. Just received an email offering corporate customers the chance to bring a guest to the first game of the season at half price. Last season that particular package was sold out for the whole season and now they're offering a discount on the opening game! But they've not facked right up - honest! CLAP CLAP CLAP.... Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -7

6:00pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

long memory wrote:
Mosschops wrote:
We've just signed the best striker from a mid table prem team also in Europe and we're moaning. The same people who moaned that we sold our best players. The same ones who moaned we weren't spending the money because of asset stripping (which was always nonsense), that we were missing out on players because we refused to pay over the odds. Now when we pay a couple of million over the odds they moan we have overpaid. They moan because they wanted someone else even though that someone else either didn't want to come or isn't the right player. Probably the same ones who moaned at Jay Rod when he wasnt instantly amazing. They remind me of a spoilt child who cries because they got rainbow dash when they wanted pinky pie pony. Grow up and be grateful - he's a good player the best of his type available and that we all agreed we needed and a Saint.
Mosschops, agree with you 100%.
Snap ................

I'd love to see how some of these neggies would run the club ...........

hmmmmmmmm maybe we have seen them before, the Farton Mangement Team ! Spend big , make promises you can't keep and destroy the club !! Top business plan !!!
[quote][p][bold]long memory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mosschops[/bold] wrote: We've just signed the best striker from a mid table prem team also in Europe and we're moaning. The same people who moaned that we sold our best players. The same ones who moaned we weren't spending the money because of asset stripping (which was always nonsense), that we were missing out on players because we refused to pay over the odds. Now when we pay a couple of million over the odds they moan we have overpaid. They moan because they wanted someone else even though that someone else either didn't want to come or isn't the right player. Probably the same ones who moaned at Jay Rod when he wasnt instantly amazing. They remind me of a spoilt child who cries because they got rainbow dash when they wanted pinky pie pony. Grow up and be grateful - he's a good player the best of his type available and that we all agreed we needed and a Saint.[/p][/quote]Mosschops, agree with you 100%.[/p][/quote]Snap ................ I'd love to see how some of these neggies would run the club ........... hmmmmmmmm maybe we have seen them before, the Farton Mangement Team ! Spend big , make promises you can't keep and destroy the club !! Top business plan !!! Buddy SFC
  • Score: 5

6:00pm Wed 13 Aug 14

upwherewebelong says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
one in the crowd wrote:
GHamilton wrote:
Evidently we are in a race with Everton to sign Johnathan Biabiany...a pacey winger from Parma; be iteresting to see who he'll want to go to.
If he has any sense it won't be Saints that's for sure,
Search,you are just peeved,because you were adamant that there would be no more signings..and you've been proved wrong.So no one is remotely likely to take anything else you say on here seriously.
One issue with your post is that neither Gardos or Long have completed their transfers yet.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GHamilton[/bold] wrote: Evidently we are in a race with Everton to sign Johnathan Biabiany...a pacey winger from Parma; be iteresting to see who he'll want to go to.[/p][/quote]If he has any sense it won't be Saints that's for sure,[/p][/quote]Search,you are just peeved,because you were adamant that there would be no more signings..and you've been proved wrong.So no one is remotely likely to take anything else you say on here seriously.[/p][/quote]One issue with your post is that neither Gardos or Long have completed their transfers yet. upwherewebelong
  • Score: 3

6:01pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Chapperall says...

I believe Long will do well at Saints as he will link up nicely with Pele. Saints were looking at him last season as well as a number of clubs. My only concern is that he has had a lot of moves in a short time, time will tell. However he us busy player who will give Lovren something to think about on Sunday!
What's the news on Floren has he signed or not?
I believe Long will do well at Saints as he will link up nicely with Pele. Saints were looking at him last season as well as a number of clubs. My only concern is that he has had a lot of moves in a short time, time will tell. However he us busy player who will give Lovren something to think about on Sunday! What's the news on Floren has he signed or not? Chapperall
  • Score: 3

6:01pm Wed 13 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

costa gaz wrote:
Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems.

Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger.

Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.
Not by S2S any longer then?
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems. Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger. Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.[/p][/quote]Not by S2S any longer then? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

6:06pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

upwherewebelong wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
one in the crowd wrote:
GHamilton wrote:
Evidently we are in a race with Everton to sign Johnathan Biabiany...a pacey winger from Parma; be iteresting to see who he'll want to go to.
If he has any sense it won't be Saints that's for sure,
Search,you are just peeved,because you were adamant that there would be no more signings..and you've been proved wrong.So no one is remotely likely to take anything else you say on here seriously.
One issue with your post is that neither Gardos or Long have completed their transfers yet.
My glass is half full. ;0)
[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GHamilton[/bold] wrote: Evidently we are in a race with Everton to sign Johnathan Biabiany...a pacey winger from Parma; be iteresting to see who he'll want to go to.[/p][/quote]If he has any sense it won't be Saints that's for sure,[/p][/quote]Search,you are just peeved,because you were adamant that there would be no more signings..and you've been proved wrong.So no one is remotely likely to take anything else you say on here seriously.[/p][/quote]One issue with your post is that neither Gardos or Long have completed their transfers yet.[/p][/quote]My glass is half full. ;0) Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

6:06pm Wed 13 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems.

Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger.

Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.
Don't forget the board are working on improving our revenues.

Just received an email offering corporate customers the chance to bring a guest to the first game of the season at half price. Last season that particular package was sold out for the whole season and now they're offering a discount on the opening game!

But they've not facked right up - honest! CLAP CLAP CLAP....
Well it is only WBA, might have been different had it been Manure.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems. Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger. Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.[/p][/quote]Don't forget the board are working on improving our revenues. Just received an email offering corporate customers the chance to bring a guest to the first game of the season at half price. Last season that particular package was sold out for the whole season and now they're offering a discount on the opening game! But they've not facked right up - honest! CLAP CLAP CLAP....[/p][/quote]Well it is only WBA, might have been different had it been Manure. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 3

6:07pm Wed 13 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems.

Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger.

Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.
Don't forget the board are working on improving our revenues.

Just received an email offering corporate customers the chance to bring a guest to the first game of the season at half price. Last season that particular package was sold out for the whole season and now they're offering a discount on the opening game!

But they've not facked right up - honest! CLAP CLAP CLAP....
They are becoming a total embarrassment.
But they are still being believed and backed by the deluded few.

Last season UTD, liverpool, Spurs, Arse, M City, Chelsea were looking over their shoulders at us.... now Villa, Hull, WBA, Palace, W Ham, Sunderland, Newcastle have us in their sights.
Keep clapping boys.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems. Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger. Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.[/p][/quote]Don't forget the board are working on improving our revenues. Just received an email offering corporate customers the chance to bring a guest to the first game of the season at half price. Last season that particular package was sold out for the whole season and now they're offering a discount on the opening game! But they've not facked right up - honest! CLAP CLAP CLAP....[/p][/quote]They are becoming a total embarrassment. But they are still being believed and backed by the deluded few. Last season UTD, liverpool, Spurs, Arse, M City, Chelsea were looking over their shoulders at us.... now Villa, Hull, WBA, Palace, W Ham, Sunderland, Newcastle have us in their sights. Keep clapping boys. costa gaz
  • Score: -8

6:07pm Wed 13 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
upwherewebelong wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
one in the crowd wrote:
GHamilton wrote:
Evidently we are in a race with Everton to sign Johnathan Biabiany...a pacey winger from Parma; be iteresting to see who he'll want to go to.
If he has any sense it won't be Saints that's for sure,
Search,you are just peeved,because you were adamant that there would be no more signings..and you've been proved wrong.So no one is remotely likely to take anything else you say on here seriously.
One issue with your post is that neither Gardos or Long have completed their transfers yet.
My glass is half full. ;0)
What of?
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GHamilton[/bold] wrote: Evidently we are in a race with Everton to sign Johnathan Biabiany...a pacey winger from Parma; be iteresting to see who he'll want to go to.[/p][/quote]If he has any sense it won't be Saints that's for sure,[/p][/quote]Search,you are just peeved,because you were adamant that there would be no more signings..and you've been proved wrong.So no one is remotely likely to take anything else you say on here seriously.[/p][/quote]One issue with your post is that neither Gardos or Long have completed their transfers yet.[/p][/quote]My glass is half full. ;0)[/p][/quote]What of? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

6:12pm Wed 13 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

costa gaz wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems.

Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger.

Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.
Don't forget the board are working on improving our revenues.

Just received an email offering corporate customers the chance to bring a guest to the first game of the season at half price. Last season that particular package was sold out for the whole season and now they're offering a discount on the opening game!

But they've not facked right up - honest! CLAP CLAP CLAP....
They are becoming a total embarrassment.
But they are still being believed and backed by the deluded few.

Last season UTD, liverpool, Spurs, Arse, M City, Chelsea were looking over their shoulders at us.... now Villa, Hull, WBA, Palace, W Ham, Sunderland, Newcastle have us in their sights.
Keep clapping boys.
Pessimist. Not S2S in disguise are you, Barry?
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems. Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger. Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.[/p][/quote]Don't forget the board are working on improving our revenues. Just received an email offering corporate customers the chance to bring a guest to the first game of the season at half price. Last season that particular package was sold out for the whole season and now they're offering a discount on the opening game! But they've not facked right up - honest! CLAP CLAP CLAP....[/p][/quote]They are becoming a total embarrassment. But they are still being believed and backed by the deluded few. Last season UTD, liverpool, Spurs, Arse, M City, Chelsea were looking over their shoulders at us.... now Villa, Hull, WBA, Palace, W Ham, Sunderland, Newcastle have us in their sights. Keep clapping boys.[/p][/quote]Pessimist. Not S2S in disguise are you, Barry? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

6:12pm Wed 13 Aug 14

A E GODMAN says...

As a Hull city first and a Saints supporter second.
I think the Long signing over priced yes will turn out to be a very good one for the Saints.
Pelle who has not played in the premier division and no spring
chicken himself will benefit off Long's play
In Hull it is a surprise that Long has been allowed to leave.
He was in manager Bruce's plans for the coming season.
In this writers opine the Hull City chairman observed the profit.
and took the plunge.
Hull may well regret to Saints pleasure at the deal.
Saints fans give Long a chance you could be in for a happy surprise.
As a Hull city first and a Saints supporter second. I think the Long signing over priced yes will turn out to be a very good one for the Saints. Pelle who has not played in the premier division and no spring chicken himself will benefit off Long's play In Hull it is a surprise that Long has been allowed to leave. He was in manager Bruce's plans for the coming season. In this writers opine the Hull City chairman observed the profit. and took the plunge. Hull may well regret to Saints pleasure at the deal. Saints fans give Long a chance you could be in for a happy surprise. A E GODMAN
  • Score: 6

6:13pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
upwherewebelong wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
one in the crowd wrote:
GHamilton wrote:
Evidently we are in a race with Everton to sign Johnathan Biabiany...a pacey winger from Parma; be iteresting to see who he'll want to go to.
If he has any sense it won't be Saints that's for sure,
Search,you are just peeved,because you were adamant that there would be no more signings..and you've been proved wrong.So no one is remotely likely to take anything else you say on here seriously.
One issue with your post is that neither Gardos or Long have completed their transfers yet.
My glass is half full. ;0)
What of?
Doombar.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GHamilton[/bold] wrote: Evidently we are in a race with Everton to sign Johnathan Biabiany...a pacey winger from Parma; be iteresting to see who he'll want to go to.[/p][/quote]If he has any sense it won't be Saints that's for sure,[/p][/quote]Search,you are just peeved,because you were adamant that there would be no more signings..and you've been proved wrong.So no one is remotely likely to take anything else you say on here seriously.[/p][/quote]One issue with your post is that neither Gardos or Long have completed their transfers yet.[/p][/quote]My glass is half full. ;0)[/p][/quote]What of?[/p][/quote]Doombar. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

6:14pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems.

Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger.

Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.
Don't forget the board are working on improving our revenues.

Just received an email offering corporate customers the chance to bring a guest to the first game of the season at half price. Last season that particular package was sold out for the whole season and now they're offering a discount on the opening game!

But they've not facked right up - honest! CLAP CLAP CLAP....
Step back to move forward .......... with the negative press the club has had this summer they will need to re-build on and off the pitch but at least now from a solid base !

Why if all was so good last year were so many corporate box's empty and the ground was only sold out post Xmas , was it 4 times when we were playing the best football with the best Saints team we have ever seen ( arguably ) ???????

Remember with so many neggies around any new young fans will now believe they have to travel East or West on the M27 to watch any decent football leaving a lot of empty spaces on the terraces .............. Shame we all couldn't have waited to see how the season will unfold.

I have hated seeing the players leave but they were sold a dream by NC that was unsustainable longer term unless Tony Fernandez owned the club, and an £40-60k per pay rise was way to much to turn down ..........

Let's see how those players get on fighting for their places ???
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems. Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger. Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.[/p][/quote]Don't forget the board are working on improving our revenues. Just received an email offering corporate customers the chance to bring a guest to the first game of the season at half price. Last season that particular package was sold out for the whole season and now they're offering a discount on the opening game! But they've not facked right up - honest! CLAP CLAP CLAP....[/p][/quote]Step back to move forward .......... with the negative press the club has had this summer they will need to re-build on and off the pitch but at least now from a solid base ! Why if all was so good last year were so many corporate box's empty and the ground was only sold out post Xmas , was it 4 times when we were playing the best football with the best Saints team we have ever seen ( arguably ) ??????? Remember with so many neggies around any new young fans will now believe they have to travel East or West on the M27 to watch any decent football leaving a lot of empty spaces on the terraces .............. Shame we all couldn't have waited to see how the season will unfold. I have hated seeing the players leave but they were sold a dream by NC that was unsustainable longer term unless Tony Fernandez owned the club, and an £40-60k per pay rise was way to much to turn down .......... Let's see how those players get on fighting for their places ??? Buddy SFC
  • Score: 5

6:15pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems.

Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger.

Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.
Don't forget the board are working on improving our revenues.

Just received an email offering corporate customers the chance to bring a guest to the first game of the season at half price. Last season that particular package was sold out for the whole season and now they're offering a discount on the opening game!

But they've not facked right up - honest! CLAP CLAP CLAP....
Well it is only WBA, might have been different had it been Manure.
Read it again Osprey. Last season that package was sold out for the entire season.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems. Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger. Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.[/p][/quote]Don't forget the board are working on improving our revenues. Just received an email offering corporate customers the chance to bring a guest to the first game of the season at half price. Last season that particular package was sold out for the whole season and now they're offering a discount on the opening game! But they've not facked right up - honest! CLAP CLAP CLAP....[/p][/quote]Well it is only WBA, might have been different had it been Manure.[/p][/quote]Read it again Osprey. Last season that package was sold out for the entire season. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -4

6:17pm Wed 13 Aug 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Over priced but time is running out so held to ransom somewhat.

I think Les Reed & the board are starting to panic as spending £12m for a Striker who only scores 6 or 7 goals a season is a sign of this.

Another average Premiership player, we really needed a 20 + goals a season striker not an 7 to 9 a season one.
We must start signing BETTER quality players to really improve the 11 on the pitch.

As I feared Saints will waste the money on mediocre players and not top quality ones to improve the 11 on the pitch.
Over priced but time is running out so held to ransom somewhat. I think Les Reed & the board are starting to panic as spending £12m for a Striker who only scores 6 or 7 goals a season is a sign of this. Another average Premiership player, we really needed a 20 + goals a season striker not an 7 to 9 a season one. We must start signing BETTER quality players to really improve the 11 on the pitch. As I feared Saints will waste the money on mediocre players and not top quality ones to improve the 11 on the pitch. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: -5

6:20pm Wed 13 Aug 14

oh when the saints says...

I do trust our scouting department who is undoubtedly one of the best in the world and believe our coaching staff will get the best out of Shane.

But in my unprofessional opinion, Shane is a player that is too good for championship football but not good enough for the EPL.
I do trust our scouting department who is undoubtedly one of the best in the world and believe our coaching staff will get the best out of Shane. But in my unprofessional opinion, Shane is a player that is too good for championship football but not good enough for the EPL. oh when the saints
  • Score: 2

6:21pm Wed 13 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems.

Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger.

Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.
Don't forget the board are working on improving our revenues.

Just received an email offering corporate customers the chance to bring a guest to the first game of the season at half price. Last season that particular package was sold out for the whole season and now they're offering a discount on the opening game!

But they've not facked right up - honest! CLAP CLAP CLAP....
Well it is only WBA, might have been different had it been Manure.
Read it again Osprey. Last season that package was sold out for the entire season.
Seed, Osprey does not like facts.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems. Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger. Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.[/p][/quote]Don't forget the board are working on improving our revenues. Just received an email offering corporate customers the chance to bring a guest to the first game of the season at half price. Last season that particular package was sold out for the whole season and now they're offering a discount on the opening game! But they've not facked right up - honest! CLAP CLAP CLAP....[/p][/quote]Well it is only WBA, might have been different had it been Manure.[/p][/quote]Read it again Osprey. Last season that package was sold out for the entire season.[/p][/quote]Seed, Osprey does not like facts. costa gaz
  • Score: -2

6:24pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Laptops and tablets banned at Old Trafford. More money grabbing.
Laptops and tablets banned at Old Trafford. More money grabbing. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: -1

6:28pm Wed 13 Aug 14

robhuk says...

The fee for a top player won't be the sticking point. The salary that we can pay the players is the problem.
The best players in last season's team left 'to play Champion's League football' - for that read 'to play for a club that can afford to pay me more'.
Top players won't come to Saints, not because we can't afford the fee, but because we are not willing or able to pay them £5,200,000 per year (100 grand a week).
The fee for a top player won't be the sticking point. The salary that we can pay the players is the problem. The best players in last season's team left 'to play Champion's League football' - for that read 'to play for a club that can afford to pay me more'. Top players won't come to Saints, not because we can't afford the fee, but because we are not willing or able to pay them £5,200,000 per year (100 grand a week). robhuk
  • Score: 8

6:28pm Wed 13 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

Question for our happy clappers;
Are you seriously happy with what has happened to our club over the summer?
Do you really believe that our quality players have been replaced by better players?
Can you put your hand on your hearts and say this board are doing everything that I would expect of them?
Try to be honest, because even the most ardent of you must be beginning to realise that we may have a complete shambles running our club.
Question for our happy clappers; Are you seriously happy with what has happened to our club over the summer? Do you really believe that our quality players have been replaced by better players? Can you put your hand on your hearts and say this board are doing everything that I would expect of them? Try to be honest, because even the most ardent of you must be beginning to realise that we may have a complete shambles running our club. costa gaz
  • Score: -6

6:31pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Feebee43 says...

Moan moan moan...they are damned if they buy and dammed when they don't. Shane Long hasn't even signed yet and it's all negative. Grumping about the cost, grumping as he score many for Hull he wasn't there very long!!
Nobody know what RoKo's plans are, how he plans to play, he may not even be the 1 trick donkey Poch was, so Long could just be what we need.
I'm going to stop reading all this negative trash on here, it's getting right on my nerves.
COYR's
Moan moan moan...they are damned if they buy and dammed when they don't. Shane Long hasn't even signed yet and it's all negative. Grumping about the cost, grumping as he score many for Hull he wasn't there very long!! Nobody know what RoKo's plans are, how he plans to play, he may not even be the 1 trick donkey Poch was, so Long could just be what we need. I'm going to stop reading all this negative trash on here, it's getting right on my nerves. COYR's Feebee43
  • Score: 9

6:35pm Wed 13 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

Feebee43 wrote:
Moan moan moan...they are damned if they buy and dammed when they don't. Shane Long hasn't even signed yet and it's all negative. Grumping about the cost, grumping as he score many for Hull he wasn't there very long!!
Nobody know what RoKo's plans are, how he plans to play, he may not even be the 1 trick donkey Poch was, so Long could just be what we need.
I'm going to stop reading all this negative trash on here, it's getting right on my nerves.
COYR's
And when Feebee went to the bottom of the garden the fairies just vanished into thin air.... wake up and smell the coffee feebee.
[quote][p][bold]Feebee43[/bold] wrote: Moan moan moan...they are damned if they buy and dammed when they don't. Shane Long hasn't even signed yet and it's all negative. Grumping about the cost, grumping as he score many for Hull he wasn't there very long!! Nobody know what RoKo's plans are, how he plans to play, he may not even be the 1 trick donkey Poch was, so Long could just be what we need. I'm going to stop reading all this negative trash on here, it's getting right on my nerves. COYR's[/p][/quote]And when Feebee went to the bottom of the garden the fairies just vanished into thin air.... wake up and smell the coffee feebee. costa gaz
  • Score: -17

6:36pm Wed 13 Aug 14

elvis says...

costa gaz wrote:
Would the last happy clapper to leave the building kindly turn out our wonderful led lights out.

This is going from bad to worse... Think about it seriously, Shane Long, he is basically b*******y rubbish, no offence but... , even the most ardent HC must realise that £12.5m spent on a f******g donkey will lead to one thing.

Keep clapping boys... you board needs you.
You're a right ray of sunshine aren't you ? I bet you're a great laugh on a Friday night out .... Yeah ok Long is overpriced ,but that's hardly his fault ....from what I've seen & read Hull fans are disappointed to see him go .... let's hope he doesn't read some of the comments on here & decide to stay .... x
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Would the last happy clapper to leave the building kindly turn out our wonderful led lights out. This is going from bad to worse... Think about it seriously, Shane Long, he is basically b*******y rubbish, no offence but... , even the most ardent HC must realise that £12.5m spent on a f******g donkey will lead to one thing. Keep clapping boys... you board needs you.[/p][/quote]You're a right ray of sunshine aren't you ? I bet you're a great laugh on a Friday night out .... Yeah ok Long is overpriced ,but that's hardly his fault ....from what I've seen & read Hull fans are disappointed to see him go .... let's hope he doesn't read some of the comments on here & decide to stay .... x elvis
  • Score: 8

6:36pm Wed 13 Aug 14

elvis says...

costa gaz wrote:
Would the last happy clapper to leave the building kindly turn out our wonderful led lights out.

This is going from bad to worse... Think about it seriously, Shane Long, he is basically b*******y rubbish, no offence but... , even the most ardent HC must realise that £12.5m spent on a f******g donkey will lead to one thing.

Keep clapping boys... you board needs you.
You're a right ray of sunshine aren't you ? I bet you're a great laugh on a Friday night out .... Yeah ok Long is overpriced ,but that's hardly his fault ....from what I've seen & read Hull fans are disappointed to see him go .... let's hope he doesn't read some of the comments on here & decide to stay .... x
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Would the last happy clapper to leave the building kindly turn out our wonderful led lights out. This is going from bad to worse... Think about it seriously, Shane Long, he is basically b*******y rubbish, no offence but... , even the most ardent HC must realise that £12.5m spent on a f******g donkey will lead to one thing. Keep clapping boys... you board needs you.[/p][/quote]You're a right ray of sunshine aren't you ? I bet you're a great laugh on a Friday night out .... Yeah ok Long is overpriced ,but that's hardly his fault ....from what I've seen & read Hull fans are disappointed to see him go .... let's hope he doesn't read some of the comments on here & decide to stay .... x elvis
  • Score: 7

6:37pm Wed 13 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

costa gaz wrote:
Question for our happy clappers;
Are you seriously happy with what has happened to our club over the summer?
Do you really believe that our quality players have been replaced by better players?
Can you put your hand on your hearts and say this board are doing everything that I would expect of them?
Try to be honest, because even the most ardent of you must be beginning to realise that we may have a complete shambles running our club.
Costa Gaz

We know the answers to your questions and it does not make happy reading ... there have been schoolboy errors.

However - we must FIGHT ON and Together as One have a Good Season in the League and a Wembley appearance in the Cup.

We have an abundance of talent as GK and Midfield. we have added an Option for Strike with Pelle.

Defence remains a weak area - but have a International CB coming in - would have liked the Leeds Lad and a Winger to give the Gaffer more Options.

Finally for me Lambert WAS class - he has moved on though and as Saints Fans we also should move on from ex Players and really get behind the Manager and current Players. They really want to do well and jose will be playing out of his skin. COYR+WS
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Question for our happy clappers; Are you seriously happy with what has happened to our club over the summer? Do you really believe that our quality players have been replaced by better players? Can you put your hand on your hearts and say this board are doing everything that I would expect of them? Try to be honest, because even the most ardent of you must be beginning to realise that we may have a complete shambles running our club.[/p][/quote]Costa Gaz We know the answers to your questions and it does not make happy reading ... there have been schoolboy errors. However - we must FIGHT ON and Together as One have a Good Season in the League and a Wembley appearance in the Cup. We have an abundance of talent as GK and Midfield. we have added an Option for Strike with Pelle. Defence remains a weak area - but have a International CB coming in - would have liked the Leeds Lad and a Winger to give the Gaffer more Options. Finally for me Lambert WAS class - he has moved on though and as Saints Fans we also should move on from ex Players and really get behind the Manager and current Players. They really want to do well and jose will be playing out of his skin. COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 8

6:38pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Mosschops says...

GHamilton wrote:
You know Mosschops, your right, we shoud all have exactly the same opinion as you., and there I was thinking this was a forum for people to express their thoughts and opinions the way they see it.... how stupid of me!
Grow up. I have stated my thoughts and opinions the way I see it, just the same as you have. When you say it's an awful signing (or whatever you said) I could just as easily say "oh so we all have to agree with you do we". What's the difference? You disagree, fine. Just debate why and we can have a debate as fellow Saints, I'm grown up enough to be cool with that.
[quote][p][bold]GHamilton[/bold] wrote: You know Mosschops, your right, we shoud all have exactly the same opinion as you., and there I was thinking this was a forum for people to express their thoughts and opinions the way they see it.... how stupid of me![/p][/quote]Grow up. I have stated my thoughts and opinions the way I see it, just the same as you have. When you say it's an awful signing (or whatever you said) I could just as easily say "oh so we all have to agree with you do we". What's the difference? You disagree, fine. Just debate why and we can have a debate as fellow Saints, I'm grown up enough to be cool with that. Mosschops
  • Score: 2

6:40pm Wed 13 Aug 14

WobblyCat says...

Buddy SFC wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Good to have some more fresh blood in the squad, but definitely OVERPRICED.

I take it Les negoitiated the fee!!!
Happy for Les to sell , Lala, Luke Dejan as being overpriced to Liverhampton but £4 million over the odds on one player and we're all up in arms .........

I think this is a signing for the whole picture not just his own ability, a very good player who could well Gell Pelle and Tadic together !
Opinions again, I’d rather we bought back any of the above for what we sold them for than buy a historically average striker for 12 mill! Long went from WBA to Hull for about 6 million 6 months ago and scored 4 goals in 15 games, I fail to see why on earth his valued has doubled in that short tenure.
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: Good to have some more fresh blood in the squad, but definitely OVERPRICED. I take it Les negoitiated the fee!!![/p][/quote]Happy for Les to sell , Lala, Luke Dejan as being overpriced to Liverhampton but £4 million over the odds on one player and we're all up in arms ......... I think this is a signing for the whole picture not just his own ability, a very good player who could well Gell Pelle and Tadic together ![/p][/quote]Opinions again, I’d rather we bought back any of the above for what we sold them for than buy a historically average striker for 12 mill! Long went from WBA to Hull for about 6 million 6 months ago and scored 4 goals in 15 games, I fail to see why on earth his valued has doubled in that short tenure. WobblyCat
  • Score: -2

6:40pm Wed 13 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

montecristosaint wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
Rudolf Hucker wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place.
We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.
yo montecristo,
I will copy and save your comment, and post it again at the end of the season.If you are right, then I will gladly buy you a drink. If you are wrong, then you buy me a drink and post a big fat SORRY on here. Deal?
Rudolf I dont make deals its just my opinion that the Board have been incompetent, sold players when they didnt need to, and did not secure replacements beforehand. And now that we are less than a week from the start of the season, Reed who earlier claimed to have vast resources of knowledge as to available players, hits the panic button and does a deal with Hull which can only be described as breathtakingly poor. I have yet to find one person who thinks Long is worth 12m, he is a championship striker at best. As to whether we stay up, no comment, other than that the club has taken a huge risk in selling so many top players and expecting those that have come in to replace them like for like. I am frankly doubtful. I am however quite happy to be proved wrong.Why did the club have to gamble with our future though?
I suppose the gambling you refer to goes back to NC going?

If KL had not intervened would you of had a club to be debating the future of?

As my previous post how could we legislate for player kissing the badge one minute and refusing to play and forcing a transfer the next, thank god they did such a good job getting the best deal for SFC so allowing us to rebuild over the coming months.
Nicola leaving when he did was a bad move poor timing at best his job was not complete and it brought massive instability.
KL did not as you put it intervene in a positive way she jumped the gun sought to change the administration of the club too soon, The time to have done it is when we had qualified for Europe not before. Patient compromise could have brought about Cortese agreement to the sale of Shaw, if need be. The events of this summer are the result of gross inexperience at corporate level, and the appointment of men not p to the jobs they were given. Reed s performance in a particular is horrifying, For the money he proposes to spend on Long, we could have bought Redmond and Byram. You are not going to tell me that would not have been money well spent. Remember, I want the same thing you do, a successful football club in keeping with a growing community. And that does not mean settling for mid table mediocrity either. Do you realize , that here on the continent, Saints are seen as the next big thing in English football. Do you? And all because of one wonderful season when we threatened to break down the walls of Jericho literally. We, I think , would like to see more of the same. We could have got Rojo, had we been more aggressive when negotiating instead of trying to get a cut price deal. That we haven t is down to Reed, not United, the deal could have been closed quite quickly Sporting are broke and the player wanted to leave.
If I had the time I could counter every and I every point you make, it would be futile and I have said it all before.

Let's see what the season brings and for the well being of SFC let's hope at the end of the season it's you that turns out to be wrong.
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rudolf Hucker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place. We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.[/p][/quote]yo montecristo, I will copy and save your comment, and post it again at the end of the season.If you are right, then I will gladly buy you a drink. If you are wrong, then you buy me a drink and post a big fat SORRY on here. Deal?[/p][/quote]Rudolf I dont make deals its just my opinion that the Board have been incompetent, sold players when they didnt need to, and did not secure replacements beforehand. And now that we are less than a week from the start of the season, Reed who earlier claimed to have vast resources of knowledge as to available players, hits the panic button and does a deal with Hull which can only be described as breathtakingly poor. I have yet to find one person who thinks Long is worth 12m, he is a championship striker at best. As to whether we stay up, no comment, other than that the club has taken a huge risk in selling so many top players and expecting those that have come in to replace them like for like. I am frankly doubtful. I am however quite happy to be proved wrong.Why did the club have to gamble with our future though?[/p][/quote]I suppose the gambling you refer to goes back to NC going? If KL had not intervened would you of had a club to be debating the future of? As my previous post how could we legislate for player kissing the badge one minute and refusing to play and forcing a transfer the next, thank god they did such a good job getting the best deal for SFC so allowing us to rebuild over the coming months.[/p][/quote]Nicola leaving when he did was a bad move poor timing at best his job was not complete and it brought massive instability. KL did not as you put it intervene in a positive way she jumped the gun sought to change the administration of the club too soon, The time to have done it is when we had qualified for Europe not before. Patient compromise could have brought about Cortese agreement to the sale of Shaw, if need be. The events of this summer are the result of gross inexperience at corporate level, and the appointment of men not p to the jobs they were given. Reed s performance in a particular is horrifying, For the money he proposes to spend on Long, we could have bought Redmond and Byram. You are not going to tell me that would not have been money well spent. Remember, I want the same thing you do, a successful football club in keeping with a growing community. And that does not mean settling for mid table mediocrity either. Do you realize , that here on the continent, Saints are seen as the next big thing in English football. Do you? And all because of one wonderful season when we threatened to break down the walls of Jericho literally. We, I think , would like to see more of the same. We could have got Rojo, had we been more aggressive when negotiating instead of trying to get a cut price deal. That we haven t is down to Reed, not United, the deal could have been closed quite quickly Sporting are broke and the player wanted to leave.[/p][/quote]If I had the time I could counter every and I every point you make, it would be futile and I have said it all before. Let's see what the season brings and for the well being of SFC let's hope at the end of the season it's you that turns out to be wrong. fascia123
  • Score: 5

6:42pm Wed 13 Aug 14

WobblyCat says...

Do you remember when we had that shocking first statue of the great Ted Bates unveiled and we became a laughing stock....
Do you remember when we had that shocking first statue of the great Ted Bates unveiled and we became a laughing stock.... WobblyCat
  • Score: 1

6:43pm Wed 13 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

elvis wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Would the last happy clapper to leave the building kindly turn out our wonderful led lights out.

This is going from bad to worse... Think about it seriously, Shane Long, he is basically b*******y rubbish, no offence but... , even the most ardent HC must realise that £12.5m spent on a f******g donkey will lead to one thing.

Keep clapping boys... you board needs you.
You're a right ray of sunshine aren't you ? I bet you're a great laugh on a Friday night out .... Yeah ok Long is overpriced ,but that's hardly his fault ....from what I've seen & read Hull fans are disappointed to see him go .... let's hope he doesn't read some of the comments on here & decide to stay .... x
You have read nothing, Hull fans are over the moon to get £12.5m for this average player, knowing that Bruce will invest it in a young goal scorer for less than half the price.
It is a ridiculous deal if it goes through.
I have been reading this message board all summer and not once did a single poster say ''Get Shane Long, he is brilliant and will cost us less than £13m''

All of a sudden he is good business??? give me strength.
[quote][p][bold]elvis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Would the last happy clapper to leave the building kindly turn out our wonderful led lights out. This is going from bad to worse... Think about it seriously, Shane Long, he is basically b*******y rubbish, no offence but... , even the most ardent HC must realise that £12.5m spent on a f******g donkey will lead to one thing. Keep clapping boys... you board needs you.[/p][/quote]You're a right ray of sunshine aren't you ? I bet you're a great laugh on a Friday night out .... Yeah ok Long is overpriced ,but that's hardly his fault ....from what I've seen & read Hull fans are disappointed to see him go .... let's hope he doesn't read some of the comments on here & decide to stay .... x[/p][/quote]You have read nothing, Hull fans are over the moon to get £12.5m for this average player, knowing that Bruce will invest it in a young goal scorer for less than half the price. It is a ridiculous deal if it goes through. I have been reading this message board all summer and not once did a single poster say ''Get Shane Long, he is brilliant and will cost us less than £13m'' All of a sudden he is good business??? give me strength. costa gaz
  • Score: -13

6:45pm Wed 13 Aug 14

M.U.CS1 says...

Another panic buy, good luck !
Another panic buy, good luck ! M.U.CS1
  • Score: -3

6:49pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

costa gaz wrote:
elvis wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Would the last happy clapper to leave the building kindly turn out our wonderful led lights out.

This is going from bad to worse... Think about it seriously, Shane Long, he is basically b*******y rubbish, no offence but... , even the most ardent HC must realise that £12.5m spent on a f******g donkey will lead to one thing.

Keep clapping boys... you board needs you.
You're a right ray of sunshine aren't you ? I bet you're a great laugh on a Friday night out .... Yeah ok Long is overpriced ,but that's hardly his fault ....from what I've seen & read Hull fans are disappointed to see him go .... let's hope he doesn't read some of the comments on here & decide to stay .... x
You have read nothing, Hull fans are over the moon to get £12.5m for this average player, knowing that Bruce will invest it in a young goal scorer for less than half the price.
It is a ridiculous deal if it goes through.
I have been reading this message board all summer and not once did a single poster say ''Get Shane Long, he is brilliant and will cost us less than £13m''

All of a sudden he is good business??? give me strength.
This is a valid point. Numerous strikers have been named on here both in the Prem, Championship and from overseas. Not one of those who now say what a great signing ever mentioned his name as a possible. Why was that?
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Would the last happy clapper to leave the building kindly turn out our wonderful led lights out. This is going from bad to worse... Think about it seriously, Shane Long, he is basically b*******y rubbish, no offence but... , even the most ardent HC must realise that £12.5m spent on a f******g donkey will lead to one thing. Keep clapping boys... you board needs you.[/p][/quote]You're a right ray of sunshine aren't you ? I bet you're a great laugh on a Friday night out .... Yeah ok Long is overpriced ,but that's hardly his fault ....from what I've seen & read Hull fans are disappointed to see him go .... let's hope he doesn't read some of the comments on here & decide to stay .... x[/p][/quote]You have read nothing, Hull fans are over the moon to get £12.5m for this average player, knowing that Bruce will invest it in a young goal scorer for less than half the price. It is a ridiculous deal if it goes through. I have been reading this message board all summer and not once did a single poster say ''Get Shane Long, he is brilliant and will cost us less than £13m'' All of a sudden he is good business??? give me strength.[/p][/quote]This is a valid point. Numerous strikers have been named on here both in the Prem, Championship and from overseas. Not one of those who now say what a great signing ever mentioned his name as a possible. Why was that? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -5

6:53pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Saint Viking says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
Over priced but time is running out so held to ransom somewhat.

I think Les Reed & the board are starting to panic as spending £12m for a Striker who only scores 6 or 7 goals a season is a sign of this.

Another average Premiership player, we really needed a 20 + goals a season striker not an 7 to 9 a season one.
We must start signing BETTER quality players to really improve the 11 on the pitch.

As I feared Saints will waste the money on mediocre players and not top quality ones to improve the 11 on the pitch.
How do you know how many goals he will score, or not? He had an excellent season at WBA the season before last, he's not an out & out goalscorer, he's a seasoned international who links play & could be an ideal partner for Pelle. When I saw him play for Hull last season, he had struck up a very good partnership with Jelavic. Yes, obviously we've paid arguably £4 million too much for him, but we needed a forward desperately. Stats on their own are very misleading, the guy is a hard worker & has good vision. Playing with better quality players will benefit him too. Twenty goals a season strikers? You must be joking. If you can find one of those for under £40 million who's willing to join Saints, let us know. We haven't had a twenty goals a season striker since we came back up & WBA finished eighth with Long as their best player, the season before last. As far as goal scoring is concerned, it's Pelle we'll be counting on to score the goals & J-Rod when he comes back. I think Long will do a good job for us.
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Over priced but time is running out so held to ransom somewhat. I think Les Reed & the board are starting to panic as spending £12m for a Striker who only scores 6 or 7 goals a season is a sign of this. Another average Premiership player, we really needed a 20 + goals a season striker not an 7 to 9 a season one. We must start signing BETTER quality players to really improve the 11 on the pitch. As I feared Saints will waste the money on mediocre players and not top quality ones to improve the 11 on the pitch.[/p][/quote]How do you know how many goals he will score, or not? He had an excellent season at WBA the season before last, he's not an out & out goalscorer, he's a seasoned international who links play & could be an ideal partner for Pelle. When I saw him play for Hull last season, he had struck up a very good partnership with Jelavic. Yes, obviously we've paid arguably £4 million too much for him, but we needed a forward desperately. Stats on their own are very misleading, the guy is a hard worker & has good vision. Playing with better quality players will benefit him too. Twenty goals a season strikers? You must be joking. If you can find one of those for under £40 million who's willing to join Saints, let us know. We haven't had a twenty goals a season striker since we came back up & WBA finished eighth with Long as their best player, the season before last. As far as goal scoring is concerned, it's Pelle we'll be counting on to score the goals & J-Rod when he comes back. I think Long will do a good job for us. Saint Viking
  • Score: 4

6:54pm Wed 13 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

costa gaz wrote:
Question for our happy clappers;
Are you seriously happy with what has happened to our club over the summer?
Do you really believe that our quality players have been replaced by better players?
Can you put your hand on your hearts and say this board are doing everything that I would expect of them?
Try to be honest, because even the most ardent of you must be beginning to realise that we may have a complete shambles running our club.
Lambert v Pelle I think this will stack up at the end of the season

Tadic v Lieanna time will tell but I think Tadic will prove a better bet

Bertrand v Shaw big fan of Shaw so I think this comes down in favour of Shaw but not that I have seen him I am told Targett is very good.

Gardos v Lovren can't see much in this Lovren was disappointing second half of season gardos looks a good player.

I know we haven't replaced chambers but the transfer window hasn't shut yet.

On top of which we have Taider, Forster and Long so is all so terrible?

Let's hope not.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Question for our happy clappers; Are you seriously happy with what has happened to our club over the summer? Do you really believe that our quality players have been replaced by better players? Can you put your hand on your hearts and say this board are doing everything that I would expect of them? Try to be honest, because even the most ardent of you must be beginning to realise that we may have a complete shambles running our club.[/p][/quote]Lambert v Pelle I think this will stack up at the end of the season Tadic v Lieanna time will tell but I think Tadic will prove a better bet Bertrand v Shaw big fan of Shaw so I think this comes down in favour of Shaw but not that I have seen him I am told Targett is very good. Gardos v Lovren can't see much in this Lovren was disappointing second half of season gardos looks a good player. I know we haven't replaced chambers but the transfer window hasn't shut yet. On top of which we have Taider, Forster and Long so is all so terrible? Let's hope not. fascia123
  • Score: 6

6:58pm Wed 13 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

montecristosaint wrote:
Rupert Lowe's Backside wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place.
We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.
So would you rather have the same players we had last year, all disgruntled and not giving too flying f**ks about RoKo?

Im disappointed that the board didnt have RoKo signed and ready as soon as MoPo left (we all knew he would) At least the new manager may have been able to talk to the players first and 'win' them over.

We set a dangerous precedent by selling SRL so early. The dominoes then fell...

So the board decided it was time to get the cash and start again with RoKo. Suck it up mate, and support the team and cheer Shane on!
I just wish I could agree with you. SRL leaving no one had an issue with least of all me. But the others?? We still have not been told the full story, why did Cortese Pochettino and the aforementioned players all leave or even want to do so? Until that question is properly answered by Liebherr herself there will be no peace I reckon. Fans demand to know. The club have taken a huge risk in doing what they have it could easily all go wrong and our premiership status could be forfeit as a result if the new players dont jell.As for Shane Long , come on, you know **** well hes not a 12m player or even a premiership player really. His best years were down in the Championship with Reading , says everything. Honestly we could have got Chicharito for 15 m and paid him accordingly. Im sorry but I put it down to a lack of ambition as well as vision. Chicharito would have been just what the doctor ordered a predator who knows where the goal is. He is worth the money Long simply is not. Lets hope he changes his mind or fails his medical. St Mary please come to our aid lol
I would presume the owners have more class than to air their dirty linen in public or contractually they may not be able to reveal the reasons behind the mass change.

Unlike some of the classless behave of our ex players I would hasten to add.
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rupert Lowe's Backside[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place. We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.[/p][/quote]So would you rather have the same players we had last year, all disgruntled and not giving too flying f**ks about RoKo? Im disappointed that the board didnt have RoKo signed and ready as soon as MoPo left (we all knew he would) At least the new manager may have been able to talk to the players first and 'win' them over. We set a dangerous precedent by selling SRL so early. The dominoes then fell... So the board decided it was time to get the cash and start again with RoKo. Suck it up mate, and support the team and cheer Shane on![/p][/quote]I just wish I could agree with you. SRL leaving no one had an issue with least of all me. But the others?? We still have not been told the full story, why did Cortese Pochettino and the aforementioned players all leave or even want to do so? Until that question is properly answered by Liebherr herself there will be no peace I reckon. Fans demand to know. The club have taken a huge risk in doing what they have it could easily all go wrong and our premiership status could be forfeit as a result if the new players dont jell.As for Shane Long , come on, you know **** well hes not a 12m player or even a premiership player really. His best years were down in the Championship with Reading , says everything. Honestly we could have got Chicharito for 15 m and paid him accordingly. Im sorry but I put it down to a lack of ambition as well as vision. Chicharito would have been just what the doctor ordered a predator who knows where the goal is. He is worth the money Long simply is not. Lets hope he changes his mind or fails his medical. St Mary please come to our aid lol[/p][/quote]I would presume the owners have more class than to air their dirty linen in public or contractually they may not be able to reveal the reasons behind the mass change. Unlike some of the classless behave of our ex players I would hasten to add. fascia123
  • Score: 1

6:59pm Wed 13 Aug 14

sparky130a says...

Not entirely convinced by this signing but he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

The problem is i really don't think there's many if any top draw strikers available who'd sign for us.

That being the case let's get behind the bloke and hope he has a cracking season.
Not entirely convinced by this signing but he deserves the benefit of the doubt. The problem is i really don't think there's many if any top draw strikers available who'd sign for us. That being the case let's get behind the bloke and hope he has a cracking season. sparky130a
  • Score: 2

6:59pm Wed 13 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Question for our happy clappers;
Are you seriously happy with what has happened to our club over the summer?
Do you really believe that our quality players have been replaced by better players?
Can you put your hand on your hearts and say this board are doing everything that I would expect of them?
Try to be honest, because even the most ardent of you must be beginning to realise that we may have a complete shambles running our club.
Costa Gaz

We know the answers to your questions and it does not make happy reading ... there have been schoolboy errors.

However - we must FIGHT ON and Together as One have a Good Season in the League and a Wembley appearance in the Cup.

We have an abundance of talent as GK and Midfield. we have added an Option for Strike with Pelle.

Defence remains a weak area - but have a International CB coming in - would have liked the Leeds Lad and a Winger to give the Gaffer more Options.

Finally for me Lambert WAS class - he has moved on though and as Saints Fans we also should move on from ex Players and really get behind the Manager and current Players. They really want to do well and jose will be playing out of his skin. COYR+WS
Being paid a huge salary by a football club should mean that schoolboy errors should not happen.. however they did happen, and it happened again, and again, and again.........

These people are supposed to be professional people paid millions by our club to run things, they have let us down big time.

If you ain't angry with the events of this summer, then I would question your loyalty. (not aimed at you ROTHFS, obviously)
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Question for our happy clappers; Are you seriously happy with what has happened to our club over the summer? Do you really believe that our quality players have been replaced by better players? Can you put your hand on your hearts and say this board are doing everything that I would expect of them? Try to be honest, because even the most ardent of you must be beginning to realise that we may have a complete shambles running our club.[/p][/quote]Costa Gaz We know the answers to your questions and it does not make happy reading ... there have been schoolboy errors. However - we must FIGHT ON and Together as One have a Good Season in the League and a Wembley appearance in the Cup. We have an abundance of talent as GK and Midfield. we have added an Option for Strike with Pelle. Defence remains a weak area - but have a International CB coming in - would have liked the Leeds Lad and a Winger to give the Gaffer more Options. Finally for me Lambert WAS class - he has moved on though and as Saints Fans we also should move on from ex Players and really get behind the Manager and current Players. They really want to do well and jose will be playing out of his skin. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]Being paid a huge salary by a football club should mean that schoolboy errors should not happen.. however they did happen, and it happened again, and again, and again......... These people are supposed to be professional people paid millions by our club to run things, they have let us down big time. If you ain't angry with the events of this summer, then I would question your loyalty. (not aimed at you ROTHFS, obviously) costa gaz
  • Score: -6

7:00pm Wed 13 Aug 14

mattthecat1980 says...

Why don't we go for Connor which am young good potential and you could snap him up for half of longs fee
Why don't we go for Connor which am young good potential and you could snap him up for half of longs fee mattthecat1980
  • Score: 2

7:05pm Wed 13 Aug 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

costa gaz wrote:
elvis wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Would the last happy clapper to leave the building kindly turn out our wonderful led lights out.

This is going from bad to worse... Think about it seriously, Shane Long, he is basically b*******y rubbish, no offence but... , even the most ardent HC must realise that £12.5m spent on a f******g donkey will lead to one thing.

Keep clapping boys... you board needs you.
You're a right ray of sunshine aren't you ? I bet you're a great laugh on a Friday night out .... Yeah ok Long is overpriced ,but that's hardly his fault ....from what I've seen & read Hull fans are disappointed to see him go .... let's hope he doesn't read some of the comments on here & decide to stay .... x
You have read nothing, Hull fans are over the moon to get £12.5m for this average player, knowing that Bruce will invest it in a young goal scorer for less than half the price.
It is a ridiculous deal if it goes through.
I have been reading this message board all summer and not once did a single poster say ''Get Shane Long, he is brilliant and will cost us less than £13m''

All of a sudden he is good business??? give me strength.
Come on then Gary The Goat! Who would you want us to sign???
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Would the last happy clapper to leave the building kindly turn out our wonderful led lights out. This is going from bad to worse... Think about it seriously, Shane Long, he is basically b*******y rubbish, no offence but... , even the most ardent HC must realise that £12.5m spent on a f******g donkey will lead to one thing. Keep clapping boys... you board needs you.[/p][/quote]You're a right ray of sunshine aren't you ? I bet you're a great laugh on a Friday night out .... Yeah ok Long is overpriced ,but that's hardly his fault ....from what I've seen & read Hull fans are disappointed to see him go .... let's hope he doesn't read some of the comments on here & decide to stay .... x[/p][/quote]You have read nothing, Hull fans are over the moon to get £12.5m for this average player, knowing that Bruce will invest it in a young goal scorer for less than half the price. It is a ridiculous deal if it goes through. I have been reading this message board all summer and not once did a single poster say ''Get Shane Long, he is brilliant and will cost us less than £13m'' All of a sudden he is good business??? give me strength.[/p][/quote]Come on then Gary The Goat! Who would you want us to sign??? SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: 5

7:06pm Wed 13 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

mattthecat1980 wrote:
Why don't we go for Connor which am young good potential and you could snap him up for half of longs fee
Because our board does not have a f*****g clue.. you can see it, I can see it, most of our fans can see it but the board cannot.
[quote][p][bold]mattthecat1980[/bold] wrote: Why don't we go for Connor which am young good potential and you could snap him up for half of longs fee[/p][/quote]Because our board does not have a f*****g clue.. you can see it, I can see it, most of our fans can see it but the board cannot. costa gaz
  • Score: -8

7:09pm Wed 13 Aug 14

lovemachine says...

elvis wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Would the last happy clapper to leave the building kindly turn out our wonderful led lights out.

This is going from bad to worse... Think about it seriously, Shane Long, he is basically b*******y rubbish, no offence but... , even the most ardent HC must realise that £12.5m spent on a f******g donkey will lead to one thing.

Keep clapping boys... you board needs you.
You're a right ray of sunshine aren't you ? I bet you're a great laugh on a Friday night out .... Yeah ok Long is overpriced ,but that's hardly his fault ....from what I've seen & read Hull fans are disappointed to see him go .... let's hope he doesn't read some of the comments on here & decide to stay .... x
Its been quoted we wanted him back in January, before Koeman arrived, and now all of a sudden Koeman has picked him out as a must have!! As Victor Meldrew says "i don't believe it" Smacks of a panic buy to me, and for someone no better than Billy.
[quote][p][bold]elvis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Would the last happy clapper to leave the building kindly turn out our wonderful led lights out. This is going from bad to worse... Think about it seriously, Shane Long, he is basically b*******y rubbish, no offence but... , even the most ardent HC must realise that £12.5m spent on a f******g donkey will lead to one thing. Keep clapping boys... you board needs you.[/p][/quote]You're a right ray of sunshine aren't you ? I bet you're a great laugh on a Friday night out .... Yeah ok Long is overpriced ,but that's hardly his fault ....from what I've seen & read Hull fans are disappointed to see him go .... let's hope he doesn't read some of the comments on here & decide to stay .... x[/p][/quote]Its been quoted we wanted him back in January, before Koeman arrived, and now all of a sudden Koeman has picked him out as a must have!! As Victor Meldrew says "i don't believe it" Smacks of a panic buy to me, and for someone no better than Billy. lovemachine
  • Score: -3

7:10pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

fascia123 wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
Rupert Lowe's Backside wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place.
We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.
So would you rather have the same players we had last year, all disgruntled and not giving too flying f**ks about RoKo?

Im disappointed that the board didnt have RoKo signed and ready as soon as MoPo left (we all knew he would) At least the new manager may have been able to talk to the players first and 'win' them over.

We set a dangerous precedent by selling SRL so early. The dominoes then fell...

So the board decided it was time to get the cash and start again with RoKo. Suck it up mate, and support the team and cheer Shane on!
I just wish I could agree with you. SRL leaving no one had an issue with least of all me. But the others?? We still have not been told the full story, why did Cortese Pochettino and the aforementioned players all leave or even want to do so? Until that question is properly answered by Liebherr herself there will be no peace I reckon. Fans demand to know. The club have taken a huge risk in doing what they have it could easily all go wrong and our premiership status could be forfeit as a result if the new players dont jell.As for Shane Long , come on, you know **** well hes not a 12m player or even a premiership player really. His best years were down in the Championship with Reading , says everything. Honestly we could have got Chicharito for 15 m and paid him accordingly. Im sorry but I put it down to a lack of ambition as well as vision. Chicharito would have been just what the doctor ordered a predator who knows where the goal is. He is worth the money Long simply is not. Lets hope he changes his mind or fails his medical. St Mary please come to our aid lol
I would presume the owners have more class than to air their dirty linen in public or contractually they may not be able to reveal the reasons behind the mass change.

Unlike some of the classless behave of our ex players I would hasten to add.
It's nothing to do with class. It's to do with reporting the facts to us as we do seem slightly interested in the events of this summer and they did promise communication and transparency. The players wanted away so the players will not be setting the confidentiality clauses - the club will.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rupert Lowe's Backside[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place. We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.[/p][/quote]So would you rather have the same players we had last year, all disgruntled and not giving too flying f**ks about RoKo? Im disappointed that the board didnt have RoKo signed and ready as soon as MoPo left (we all knew he would) At least the new manager may have been able to talk to the players first and 'win' them over. We set a dangerous precedent by selling SRL so early. The dominoes then fell... So the board decided it was time to get the cash and start again with RoKo. Suck it up mate, and support the team and cheer Shane on![/p][/quote]I just wish I could agree with you. SRL leaving no one had an issue with least of all me. But the others?? We still have not been told the full story, why did Cortese Pochettino and the aforementioned players all leave or even want to do so? Until that question is properly answered by Liebherr herself there will be no peace I reckon. Fans demand to know. The club have taken a huge risk in doing what they have it could easily all go wrong and our premiership status could be forfeit as a result if the new players dont jell.As for Shane Long , come on, you know **** well hes not a 12m player or even a premiership player really. His best years were down in the Championship with Reading , says everything. Honestly we could have got Chicharito for 15 m and paid him accordingly. Im sorry but I put it down to a lack of ambition as well as vision. Chicharito would have been just what the doctor ordered a predator who knows where the goal is. He is worth the money Long simply is not. Lets hope he changes his mind or fails his medical. St Mary please come to our aid lol[/p][/quote]I would presume the owners have more class than to air their dirty linen in public or contractually they may not be able to reveal the reasons behind the mass change. Unlike some of the classless behave of our ex players I would hasten to add.[/p][/quote]It's nothing to do with class. It's to do with reporting the facts to us as we do seem slightly interested in the events of this summer and they did promise communication and transparency. The players wanted away so the players will not be setting the confidentiality clauses - the club will. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -5

7:11pm Wed 13 Aug 14

redandy10 says...

costa gaz wrote:
elvis wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Would the last happy clapper to leave the building kindly turn out our wonderful led lights out.

This is going from bad to worse... Think about it seriously, Shane Long, he is basically b*******y rubbish, no offence but... , even the most ardent HC must realise that £12.5m spent on a f******g donkey will lead to one thing.

Keep clapping boys... you board needs you.
You're a right ray of sunshine aren't you ? I bet you're a great laugh on a Friday night out .... Yeah ok Long is overpriced ,but that's hardly his fault ....from what I've seen & read Hull fans are disappointed to see him go .... let's hope he doesn't read some of the comments on here & decide to stay .... x
You have read nothing, Hull fans are over the moon to get £12.5m for this average player, knowing that Bruce will invest it in a young goal scorer for less than half the price.
It is a ridiculous deal if it goes through.
I have been reading this message board all summer and not once did a single poster say ''Get Shane Long, he is brilliant and will cost us less than £13m''

All of a sudden he is good business??? give me strength.
You are absolutely right Gaz!

For me the best judge as to if he is overpriced are supporters of other teams, with no vested interest, and they are overwhelming in saying that he is overpriced. To not be able to admit that we paid over the odds for him is just another example of where the HCs lose credibility. It's obvious we paid too much, so to pretend otherwise is churlish!

Even Hull fans on other forums have been saying it was a great bit of business for them. They praise him for being a workhorse, but don't seem too upset at his departure. That worries me!!!

I'm hoping that Ron has sth in mind for how he wants us to play up front and sees Long as the perfect fit. If he doesn't score a lot but lays on a lot of assists and stretches defences, allowing Pelle to benefit, happy days!

Who knows, he could be our player of the season!
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Would the last happy clapper to leave the building kindly turn out our wonderful led lights out. This is going from bad to worse... Think about it seriously, Shane Long, he is basically b*******y rubbish, no offence but... , even the most ardent HC must realise that £12.5m spent on a f******g donkey will lead to one thing. Keep clapping boys... you board needs you.[/p][/quote]You're a right ray of sunshine aren't you ? I bet you're a great laugh on a Friday night out .... Yeah ok Long is overpriced ,but that's hardly his fault ....from what I've seen & read Hull fans are disappointed to see him go .... let's hope he doesn't read some of the comments on here & decide to stay .... x[/p][/quote]You have read nothing, Hull fans are over the moon to get £12.5m for this average player, knowing that Bruce will invest it in a young goal scorer for less than half the price. It is a ridiculous deal if it goes through. I have been reading this message board all summer and not once did a single poster say ''Get Shane Long, he is brilliant and will cost us less than £13m'' All of a sudden he is good business??? give me strength.[/p][/quote]You are absolutely right Gaz! For me the best judge as to if he is overpriced are supporters of other teams, with no vested interest, and they are overwhelming in saying that he is overpriced. To not be able to admit that we paid over the odds for him is just another example of where the HCs lose credibility. It's obvious we paid too much, so to pretend otherwise is churlish! Even Hull fans on other forums have been saying it was a great bit of business for them. They praise him for being a workhorse, but don't seem too upset at his departure. That worries me!!! I'm hoping that Ron has sth in mind for how he wants us to play up front and sees Long as the perfect fit. If he doesn't score a lot but lays on a lot of assists and stretches defences, allowing Pelle to benefit, happy days! Who knows, he could be our player of the season! redandy10
  • Score: 2

7:17pm Wed 13 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

SouthamptonLegend wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
elvis wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Would the last happy clapper to leave the building kindly turn out our wonderful led lights out.

This is going from bad to worse... Think about it seriously, Shane Long, he is basically b*******y rubbish, no offence but... , even the most ardent HC must realise that £12.5m spent on a f******g donkey will lead to one thing.

Keep clapping boys... you board needs you.
You're a right ray of sunshine aren't you ? I bet you're a great laugh on a Friday night out .... Yeah ok Long is overpriced ,but that's hardly his fault ....from what I've seen & read Hull fans are disappointed to see him go .... let's hope he doesn't read some of the comments on here & decide to stay .... x
You have read nothing, Hull fans are over the moon to get £12.5m for this average player, knowing that Bruce will invest it in a young goal scorer for less than half the price.
It is a ridiculous deal if it goes through.
I have been reading this message board all summer and not once did a single poster say ''Get Shane Long, he is brilliant and will cost us less than £13m''

All of a sudden he is good business??? give me strength.
Come on then Gary The Goat! Who would you want us to sign???
Legend, it is not a point of who I would sign, it is not up to me.
It is up to a board of directors who are are paid millions between them to come up with someone who will be good for the club.
Have you ever said that signing Shane Long at £13m would be good business for us and more to the point, do you think that it is now?
It's panic buying at it's worst.

p.s. it's just costa gaz or just gaz please.
[quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Would the last happy clapper to leave the building kindly turn out our wonderful led lights out. This is going from bad to worse... Think about it seriously, Shane Long, he is basically b*******y rubbish, no offence but... , even the most ardent HC must realise that £12.5m spent on a f******g donkey will lead to one thing. Keep clapping boys... you board needs you.[/p][/quote]You're a right ray of sunshine aren't you ? I bet you're a great laugh on a Friday night out .... Yeah ok Long is overpriced ,but that's hardly his fault ....from what I've seen & read Hull fans are disappointed to see him go .... let's hope he doesn't read some of the comments on here & decide to stay .... x[/p][/quote]You have read nothing, Hull fans are over the moon to get £12.5m for this average player, knowing that Bruce will invest it in a young goal scorer for less than half the price. It is a ridiculous deal if it goes through. I have been reading this message board all summer and not once did a single poster say ''Get Shane Long, he is brilliant and will cost us less than £13m'' All of a sudden he is good business??? give me strength.[/p][/quote]Come on then Gary The Goat! Who would you want us to sign???[/p][/quote]Legend, it is not a point of who I would sign, it is not up to me. It is up to a board of directors who are are paid millions between them to come up with someone who will be good for the club. Have you ever said that signing Shane Long at £13m would be good business for us and more to the point, do you think that it is now? It's panic buying at it's worst. p.s. it's just costa gaz or just gaz please. costa gaz
  • Score: -6

7:20pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

We are seeded in the League Cup draw later tonight. Please please please give us the facking skates. We've had a crap summer and need something to cheer us up and rally the troops!
We are seeded in the League Cup draw later tonight. Please please please give us the facking skates. We've had a crap summer and need something to cheer us up and rally the troops! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 3

7:21pm Wed 13 Aug 14

deepheat says...

Hull are using the money from the Shane Long deal to buy Championship Watford's Troy Deeney ( 26 years old ) for £10m. If I were Hull I would have rather kept Shane Long then spend £10m on a 26 year old Championship player.

Shane may need 2 or 3 chances before he puts the ball away but finding strikers who can put the ball in the back of the net first chance they get is near on impossible. I just hope this doesn't mean JayRod is off .
Hull are using the money from the Shane Long deal to buy Championship Watford's Troy Deeney ( 26 years old ) for £10m. If I were Hull I would have rather kept Shane Long then spend £10m on a 26 year old Championship player. Shane may need 2 or 3 chances before he puts the ball away but finding strikers who can put the ball in the back of the net first chance they get is near on impossible. I just hope this doesn't mean JayRod is off . deepheat
  • Score: 2

7:25pm Wed 13 Aug 14

mack chinnon says...

redandy10 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
elvis wrote:
costa gaz wrote: Would the last happy clapper to leave the building kindly turn out our wonderful led lights out. This is going from bad to worse... Think about it seriously, Shane Long, he is basically b*******y rubbish, no offence but... , even the most ardent HC must realise that £12.5m spent on a f******g donkey will lead to one thing. Keep clapping boys... you board needs you.
You're a right ray of sunshine aren't you ? I bet you're a great laugh on a Friday night out .... Yeah ok Long is overpriced ,but that's hardly his fault ....from what I've seen & read Hull fans are disappointed to see him go .... let's hope he doesn't read some of the comments on here & decide to stay .... x
You have read nothing, Hull fans are over the moon to get £12.5m for this average player, knowing that Bruce will invest it in a young goal scorer for less than half the price. It is a ridiculous deal if it goes through. I have been reading this message board all summer and not once did a single poster say ''Get Shane Long, he is brilliant and will cost us less than £13m'' All of a sudden he is good business??? give me strength.
You are absolutely right Gaz! For me the best judge as to if he is overpriced are supporters of other teams, with no vested interest, and they are overwhelming in saying that he is overpriced. To not be able to admit that we paid over the odds for him is just another example of where the HCs lose credibility. It's obvious we paid too much, so to pretend otherwise is churlish! Even Hull fans on other forums have been saying it was a great bit of business for them. They praise him for being a workhorse, but don't seem too upset at his departure. That worries me!!! I'm hoping that Ron has sth in mind for how he wants us to play up front and sees Long as the perfect fit. If he doesn't score a lot but lays on a lot of assists and stretches defences, allowing Pelle to benefit, happy days! Who knows, he could be our player of the season!
Has he actually signed ?
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Would the last happy clapper to leave the building kindly turn out our wonderful led lights out. This is going from bad to worse... Think about it seriously, Shane Long, he is basically b*******y rubbish, no offence but... , even the most ardent HC must realise that £12.5m spent on a f******g donkey will lead to one thing. Keep clapping boys... you board needs you.[/p][/quote]You're a right ray of sunshine aren't you ? I bet you're a great laugh on a Friday night out .... Yeah ok Long is overpriced ,but that's hardly his fault ....from what I've seen & read Hull fans are disappointed to see him go .... let's hope he doesn't read some of the comments on here & decide to stay .... x[/p][/quote]You have read nothing, Hull fans are over the moon to get £12.5m for this average player, knowing that Bruce will invest it in a young goal scorer for less than half the price. It is a ridiculous deal if it goes through. I have been reading this message board all summer and not once did a single poster say ''Get Shane Long, he is brilliant and will cost us less than £13m'' All of a sudden he is good business??? give me strength.[/p][/quote]You are absolutely right Gaz! For me the best judge as to if he is overpriced are supporters of other teams, with no vested interest, and they are overwhelming in saying that he is overpriced. To not be able to admit that we paid over the odds for him is just another example of where the HCs lose credibility. It's obvious we paid too much, so to pretend otherwise is churlish! Even Hull fans on other forums have been saying it was a great bit of business for them. They praise him for being a workhorse, but don't seem too upset at his departure. That worries me!!! I'm hoping that Ron has sth in mind for how he wants us to play up front and sees Long as the perfect fit. If he doesn't score a lot but lays on a lot of assists and stretches defences, allowing Pelle to benefit, happy days! Who knows, he could be our player of the season![/p][/quote]Has he actually signed ? mack chinnon
  • Score: -2

7:27pm Wed 13 Aug 14

thinklikealocal says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems.

Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger.

Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.
Don't forget the board are working on improving our revenues.

Just received an email offering corporate customers the chance to bring a guest to the first game of the season at half price. Last season that particular package was sold out for the whole season and now they're offering a discount on the opening game!

But they've not facked right up - honest! CLAP CLAP CLAP....
So you think these kind of revenue streams are the 'make or break' in terms of growing the clubs overall financial status and making a difference in terms of the FFP rules. Naive in the extreme and certainly no businessman. Glad you are not running the club!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems. Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger. Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.[/p][/quote]Don't forget the board are working on improving our revenues. Just received an email offering corporate customers the chance to bring a guest to the first game of the season at half price. Last season that particular package was sold out for the whole season and now they're offering a discount on the opening game! But they've not facked right up - honest! CLAP CLAP CLAP....[/p][/quote]So you think these kind of revenue streams are the 'make or break' in terms of growing the clubs overall financial status and making a difference in terms of the FFP rules. Naive in the extreme and certainly no businessman. Glad you are not running the club! thinklikealocal
  • Score: 1

7:29pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Saint Viking says...

costa gaz wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems.

Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger.

Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.
Don't forget the board are working on improving our revenues.

Just received an email offering corporate customers the chance to bring a guest to the first game of the season at half price. Last season that particular package was sold out for the whole season and now they're offering a discount on the opening game!

But they've not facked right up - honest! CLAP CLAP CLAP....
They are becoming a total embarrassment.
But they are still being believed and backed by the deluded few.

Last season UTD, liverpool, Spurs, Arse, M City, Chelsea were looking over their shoulders at us.... now Villa, Hull, WBA, Palace, W Ham, Sunderland, Newcastle have us in their sights.
Keep clapping boys.
Nobody's deluded. Those teams were looking over their shoulder for half the season, the second half of the season we hardly budged in the table. As I wrote in my original comment above, we played 14 matches against the seven teams above us and won only two. That's not good enough. If the players & their inflated egos who've left were so fantastic, they should have been winning more than one home game all season against the top seven & that was Everton. If you think those teams who finished below us last season are better than us, then it's you who's deluded.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems. Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger. Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.[/p][/quote]Don't forget the board are working on improving our revenues. Just received an email offering corporate customers the chance to bring a guest to the first game of the season at half price. Last season that particular package was sold out for the whole season and now they're offering a discount on the opening game! But they've not facked right up - honest! CLAP CLAP CLAP....[/p][/quote]They are becoming a total embarrassment. But they are still being believed and backed by the deluded few. Last season UTD, liverpool, Spurs, Arse, M City, Chelsea were looking over their shoulders at us.... now Villa, Hull, WBA, Palace, W Ham, Sunderland, Newcastle have us in their sights. Keep clapping boys.[/p][/quote]Nobody's deluded. Those teams were looking over their shoulder for half the season, the second half of the season we hardly budged in the table. As I wrote in my original comment above, we played 14 matches against the seven teams above us and won only two. That's not good enough. If the players & their inflated egos who've left were so fantastic, they should have been winning more than one home game all season against the top seven & that was Everton. If you think those teams who finished below us last season are better than us, then it's you who's deluded. Saint Viking
  • Score: 5

7:32pm Wed 13 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We are seeded in the League Cup draw later tonight. Please please please give us the facking skates. We've had a crap summer and need something to cheer us up and rally the troops!
Only at home though, don't fancy visiting a flea pit.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: We are seeded in the League Cup draw later tonight. Please please please give us the facking skates. We've had a crap summer and need something to cheer us up and rally the troops![/p][/quote]Only at home though, don't fancy visiting a flea pit. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

7:36pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Mister E says...

montecristosaint wrote:
Rupert Lowe's Backside wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place.
We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.
So would you rather have the same players we had last year, all disgruntled and not giving too flying f**ks about RoKo?

Im disappointed that the board didnt have RoKo signed and ready as soon as MoPo left (we all knew he would) At least the new manager may have been able to talk to the players first and 'win' them over.

We set a dangerous precedent by selling SRL so early. The dominoes then fell...

So the board decided it was time to get the cash and start again with RoKo. Suck it up mate, and support the team and cheer Shane on!
I just wish I could agree with you. SRL leaving no one had an issue with least of all me. But the others?? We still have not been told the full story, why did Cortese Pochettino and the aforementioned players all leave or even want to do so? Until that question is properly answered by Liebherr herself there will be no peace I reckon. Fans demand to know. The club have taken a huge risk in doing what they have it could easily all go wrong and our premiership status could be forfeit as a result if the new players dont jell.As for Shane Long , come on, you know **** well hes not a 12m player or even a premiership player really. His best years were down in the Championship with Reading , says everything. Honestly we could have got Chicharito for 15 m and paid him accordingly. Im sorry but I put it down to a lack of ambition as well as vision. Chicharito would have been just what the doctor ordered a predator who knows where the goal is. He is worth the money Long simply is not. Lets hope he changes his mind or fails his medical. St Mary please come to our aid lol
Why are people blaming the board and in particular Les Reed for trying to sign Long? RK surely says who we should pursue! I agree the fee is steep, but we must trust in RK as he is no fool. So, I reserve judgement.
"Honestly we could have got Chicharito...." really? I am not doing us down, but, you really think he'd want to come to us when top European clubs with immediate Champions League aspirations are interested?
"Lack of ambition, as well as vision", really? Our (the Club's) stated aim is to get into Europe (and if that is a lack of ambition then count me in!). To get there the Club want to build on firm foundations, using our academy (that the football world holds in high regard - there must have been some vision there!) and purchasing where necessary. Now if all that sounds like a lack of vision then I am all for it - let the blind lead the blind!
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rupert Lowe's Backside[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place. We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.[/p][/quote]So would you rather have the same players we had last year, all disgruntled and not giving too flying f**ks about RoKo? Im disappointed that the board didnt have RoKo signed and ready as soon as MoPo left (we all knew he would) At least the new manager may have been able to talk to the players first and 'win' them over. We set a dangerous precedent by selling SRL so early. The dominoes then fell... So the board decided it was time to get the cash and start again with RoKo. Suck it up mate, and support the team and cheer Shane on![/p][/quote]I just wish I could agree with you. SRL leaving no one had an issue with least of all me. But the others?? We still have not been told the full story, why did Cortese Pochettino and the aforementioned players all leave or even want to do so? Until that question is properly answered by Liebherr herself there will be no peace I reckon. Fans demand to know. The club have taken a huge risk in doing what they have it could easily all go wrong and our premiership status could be forfeit as a result if the new players dont jell.As for Shane Long , come on, you know **** well hes not a 12m player or even a premiership player really. His best years were down in the Championship with Reading , says everything. Honestly we could have got Chicharito for 15 m and paid him accordingly. Im sorry but I put it down to a lack of ambition as well as vision. Chicharito would have been just what the doctor ordered a predator who knows where the goal is. He is worth the money Long simply is not. Lets hope he changes his mind or fails his medical. St Mary please come to our aid lol[/p][/quote]Why are people blaming the board and in particular Les Reed for trying to sign Long? RK surely says who we should pursue! I agree the fee is steep, but we must trust in RK as he is no fool. So, I reserve judgement. "Honestly we could have got Chicharito...." really? I am not doing us down, but, you really think he'd want to come to us when top European clubs with immediate Champions League aspirations are interested? "Lack of ambition, as well as vision", really? Our (the Club's) stated aim is to get into Europe (and if that is a lack of ambition then count me in!). To get there the Club want to build on firm foundations, using our academy (that the football world holds in high regard - there must have been some vision there!) and purchasing where necessary. Now if all that sounds like a lack of vision then I am all for it - let the blind lead the blind! Mister E
  • Score: 3

7:36pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Mister E says...

montecristosaint wrote:
Rupert Lowe's Backside wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place.
We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.
So would you rather have the same players we had last year, all disgruntled and not giving too flying f**ks about RoKo?

Im disappointed that the board didnt have RoKo signed and ready as soon as MoPo left (we all knew he would) At least the new manager may have been able to talk to the players first and 'win' them over.

We set a dangerous precedent by selling SRL so early. The dominoes then fell...

So the board decided it was time to get the cash and start again with RoKo. Suck it up mate, and support the team and cheer Shane on!
I just wish I could agree with you. SRL leaving no one had an issue with least of all me. But the others?? We still have not been told the full story, why did Cortese Pochettino and the aforementioned players all leave or even want to do so? Until that question is properly answered by Liebherr herself there will be no peace I reckon. Fans demand to know. The club have taken a huge risk in doing what they have it could easily all go wrong and our premiership status could be forfeit as a result if the new players dont jell.As for Shane Long , come on, you know **** well hes not a 12m player or even a premiership player really. His best years were down in the Championship with Reading , says everything. Honestly we could have got Chicharito for 15 m and paid him accordingly. Im sorry but I put it down to a lack of ambition as well as vision. Chicharito would have been just what the doctor ordered a predator who knows where the goal is. He is worth the money Long simply is not. Lets hope he changes his mind or fails his medical. St Mary please come to our aid lol
Why are people blaming the board and in particular Les Reed for trying to sign Long? RK surely says who we should pursue! I agree the fee is steep, but we must trust in RK as he is no fool. So, I reserve judgement.
"Honestly we could have got Chicharito...." really? I am not doing us down, but, you really think he'd want to come to us when top European clubs with immediate Champions League aspirations are interested?
"Lack of ambition, as well as vision", really? Our (the Club's) stated aim is to get into Europe (and if that is a lack of ambition then count me in!). To get there the Club want to build on firm foundations, using our academy (that the football world holds in high regard - there must have been some vision there!) and purchasing where necessary. Now if all that sounds like a lack of vision then I am all for it - let the blind lead the blind!
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rupert Lowe's Backside[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place. We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.[/p][/quote]So would you rather have the same players we had last year, all disgruntled and not giving too flying f**ks about RoKo? Im disappointed that the board didnt have RoKo signed and ready as soon as MoPo left (we all knew he would) At least the new manager may have been able to talk to the players first and 'win' them over. We set a dangerous precedent by selling SRL so early. The dominoes then fell... So the board decided it was time to get the cash and start again with RoKo. Suck it up mate, and support the team and cheer Shane on![/p][/quote]I just wish I could agree with you. SRL leaving no one had an issue with least of all me. But the others?? We still have not been told the full story, why did Cortese Pochettino and the aforementioned players all leave or even want to do so? Until that question is properly answered by Liebherr herself there will be no peace I reckon. Fans demand to know. The club have taken a huge risk in doing what they have it could easily all go wrong and our premiership status could be forfeit as a result if the new players dont jell.As for Shane Long , come on, you know **** well hes not a 12m player or even a premiership player really. His best years were down in the Championship with Reading , says everything. Honestly we could have got Chicharito for 15 m and paid him accordingly. Im sorry but I put it down to a lack of ambition as well as vision. Chicharito would have been just what the doctor ordered a predator who knows where the goal is. He is worth the money Long simply is not. Lets hope he changes his mind or fails his medical. St Mary please come to our aid lol[/p][/quote]Why are people blaming the board and in particular Les Reed for trying to sign Long? RK surely says who we should pursue! I agree the fee is steep, but we must trust in RK as he is no fool. So, I reserve judgement. "Honestly we could have got Chicharito...." really? I am not doing us down, but, you really think he'd want to come to us when top European clubs with immediate Champions League aspirations are interested? "Lack of ambition, as well as vision", really? Our (the Club's) stated aim is to get into Europe (and if that is a lack of ambition then count me in!). To get there the Club want to build on firm foundations, using our academy (that the football world holds in high regard - there must have been some vision there!) and purchasing where necessary. Now if all that sounds like a lack of vision then I am all for it - let the blind lead the blind! Mister E
  • Score: 2

7:37pm Wed 13 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Saint Viking wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems.

Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger.

Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.
Don't forget the board are working on improving our revenues.

Just received an email offering corporate customers the chance to bring a guest to the first game of the season at half price. Last season that particular package was sold out for the whole season and now they're offering a discount on the opening game!

But they've not facked right up - honest! CLAP CLAP CLAP....
They are becoming a total embarrassment.
But they are still being believed and backed by the deluded few.

Last season UTD, liverpool, Spurs, Arse, M City, Chelsea were looking over their shoulders at us.... now Villa, Hull, WBA, Palace, W Ham, Sunderland, Newcastle have us in their sights.
Keep clapping boys.
Nobody's deluded. Those teams were looking over their shoulder for half the season, the second half of the season we hardly budged in the table. As I wrote in my original comment above, we played 14 matches against the seven teams above us and won only two. That's not good enough. If the players & their inflated egos who've left were so fantastic, they should have been winning more than one home game all season against the top seven & that was Everton. If you think those teams who finished below us last season are better than us, then it's you who's deluded.
You have to play good to survive in the Premier, You have to very good to get 10th or above, to get into the top 6 you have to play exceptionally well, and consistently all Season, we never had a team capable of that and still haven't. This Season I want us to play good and survive then consolidate. Anything better will be a bonus, wouldn't mind a Cup run though.
[quote][p][bold]Saint Viking[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems. Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger. Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.[/p][/quote]Don't forget the board are working on improving our revenues. Just received an email offering corporate customers the chance to bring a guest to the first game of the season at half price. Last season that particular package was sold out for the whole season and now they're offering a discount on the opening game! But they've not facked right up - honest! CLAP CLAP CLAP....[/p][/quote]They are becoming a total embarrassment. But they are still being believed and backed by the deluded few. Last season UTD, liverpool, Spurs, Arse, M City, Chelsea were looking over their shoulders at us.... now Villa, Hull, WBA, Palace, W Ham, Sunderland, Newcastle have us in their sights. Keep clapping boys.[/p][/quote]Nobody's deluded. Those teams were looking over their shoulder for half the season, the second half of the season we hardly budged in the table. As I wrote in my original comment above, we played 14 matches against the seven teams above us and won only two. That's not good enough. If the players & their inflated egos who've left were so fantastic, they should have been winning more than one home game all season against the top seven & that was Everton. If you think those teams who finished below us last season are better than us, then it's you who's deluded.[/p][/quote]You have to play good to survive in the Premier, You have to very good to get 10th or above, to get into the top 6 you have to play exceptionally well, and consistently all Season, we never had a team capable of that and still haven't. This Season I want us to play good and survive then consolidate. Anything better will be a bonus, wouldn't mind a Cup run though. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 6

7:41pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

thinklikealocal wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems.

Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger.

Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.
Don't forget the board are working on improving our revenues.

Just received an email offering corporate customers the chance to bring a guest to the first game of the season at half price. Last season that particular package was sold out for the whole season and now they're offering a discount on the opening game!

But they've not facked right up - honest! CLAP CLAP CLAP....
So you think these kind of revenue streams are the 'make or break' in terms of growing the clubs overall financial status and making a difference in terms of the FFP rules. Naive in the extreme and certainly no businessman. Glad you are not running the club!
Every little helps and they are obviously down on last year which is a bad sign. But then you knew that didn't you?
[quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems. Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger. Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.[/p][/quote]Don't forget the board are working on improving our revenues. Just received an email offering corporate customers the chance to bring a guest to the first game of the season at half price. Last season that particular package was sold out for the whole season and now they're offering a discount on the opening game! But they've not facked right up - honest! CLAP CLAP CLAP....[/p][/quote]So you think these kind of revenue streams are the 'make or break' in terms of growing the clubs overall financial status and making a difference in terms of the FFP rules. Naive in the extreme and certainly no businessman. Glad you are not running the club![/p][/quote]Every little helps and they are obviously down on last year which is a bad sign. But then you knew that didn't you? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -2

7:43pm Wed 13 Aug 14

adams74 says...

SNUGGLES 78 wrote:
building for the championship lol ,what are they smoking in the boardroom ,ludicrous value.
how was the peterborough game last night ya muggy skate?
[quote][p][bold]SNUGGLES 78[/bold] wrote: building for the championship lol ,what are they smoking in the boardroom ,ludicrous value.[/p][/quote]how was the peterborough game last night ya muggy skate? adams74
  • Score: 1

7:44pm Wed 13 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

Our closest rivals last season were Man Utd, bet they are brickin it now they know we are in for Shane Long.
@£12.5m the whole of football will be laughing at us, because which ever side of the fence you sit, hc's or MoD, this is a complete joke.
It makes the Carroll to Liverpool deal look pretty normal.
Our closest rivals last season were Man Utd, bet they are brickin it now they know we are in for Shane Long. @£12.5m the whole of football will be laughing at us, because which ever side of the fence you sit, hc's or MoD, this is a complete joke. It makes the Carroll to Liverpool deal look pretty normal. costa gaz
  • Score: -9

7:47pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Mosschops says...

costa gaz wrote:
Question for our happy clappers;
Are you seriously happy with what has happened to our club over the summer?
Do you really believe that our quality players have been replaced by better players?
Can you put your hand on your hearts and say this board are doing everything that I would expect of them?
Try to be honest, because even the most ardent of you must be beginning to realise that we may have a complete shambles running our club.
The answer to those 3 questions is of course no. But the problem us "happy clappers" have your ultra negative view is the extreme conclusion you draw from the answers to your questions. Losing players, failing to replace them with better (or at least not guaranteed to be better - we don't as yet know) and the board perhaps making some mistakes in extremely testing conditions does not automatically equal a "shambles". You act as if you are the only one disappointed with the summer we've had just because you throw a bigger hissy fit. In life and football **** things happen, you get up, dust yourself down and cracked on to make a positive. If the board were like you they'd be sat in a corner sulking - that truly would be a shambles.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Question for our happy clappers; Are you seriously happy with what has happened to our club over the summer? Do you really believe that our quality players have been replaced by better players? Can you put your hand on your hearts and say this board are doing everything that I would expect of them? Try to be honest, because even the most ardent of you must be beginning to realise that we may have a complete shambles running our club.[/p][/quote]The answer to those 3 questions is of course no. But the problem us "happy clappers" have your ultra negative view is the extreme conclusion you draw from the answers to your questions. Losing players, failing to replace them with better (or at least not guaranteed to be better - we don't as yet know) and the board perhaps making some mistakes in extremely testing conditions does not automatically equal a "shambles". You act as if you are the only one disappointed with the summer we've had just because you throw a bigger hissy fit. In life and football **** things happen, you get up, dust yourself down and cracked on to make a positive. If the board were like you they'd be sat in a corner sulking - that truly would be a shambles. Mosschops
  • Score: 5

7:47pm Wed 13 Aug 14

bstokesaint says...

montecristosaint wrote:
I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place.
We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.
Really Monte? A relegation fight. Do you honestly believe that? Have you even looked at the squads of the teams that have come up through the Championship? You clearly have a huge issue with Reed, but your biggest fault is your assumption that every player we are linked with is a nailed on Saints player if we simply offer the right money. Hernandez didn't want to come to Southampton. That was clear. It'll be the same with Rojo. Agents enjoy playing clubs off against each other, but most players will choose the biggest club that come in for them and the most money. That's a fact. You can't possibly know what happens in these talks unless you're on the Saints staff and so what you offer are just opinions. Not facts. With the facts that are available such as the players we have brought in then yes of course views are subjective. We may have spent a lot but I'm mostly happy with the quality and potential of the players we've got.

The club has been through unprecedented times. There have been a number of factors which brings us to where we are now. We can be excited and get behind the team into a new era or remain fixated with last season. I'm not burying my head in the sand or a "happy clapper", but they are the only two realistic options I see. I'm guessing by the sell-out of tickets for the first (televised) away game of the season that most fans are keeping the faith.
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: I fear we could be looking at a relegation struggle. Shane Long at 12 m plus is a sure sign of someone hitting a panic button. Would that be you Mr Reed, you incompetent baboon?? FIVE top players sold for what, and what do we get , untried players half of which on loan, plus Shane Long. Its going to be a painful struggle this season. No wonder Schneiderlin is throwing his toys out of the pram why should he be forced to stay, when a bunch of others have been allowed to leave without a murmur. Its difficult to take in the sheer horror of what two very incompetent men have allowed to happen at Saints, and KL is ultimately to blame for appointing these two idiots in the first place. We have been through some very tough times at Southampton but after a season like the last fans had every right to expect more from a club than they have got. Instead we are facing a season of sheer torture. Im simply not amused and I will curse this hapless trio every time we lose three points this season.[/p][/quote]Really Monte? A relegation fight. Do you honestly believe that? Have you even looked at the squads of the teams that have come up through the Championship? You clearly have a huge issue with Reed, but your biggest fault is your assumption that every player we are linked with is a nailed on Saints player if we simply offer the right money. Hernandez didn't want to come to Southampton. That was clear. It'll be the same with Rojo. Agents enjoy playing clubs off against each other, but most players will choose the biggest club that come in for them and the most money. That's a fact. You can't possibly know what happens in these talks unless you're on the Saints staff and so what you offer are just opinions. Not facts. With the facts that are available such as the players we have brought in then yes of course views are subjective. We may have spent a lot but I'm mostly happy with the quality and potential of the players we've got. The club has been through unprecedented times. There have been a number of factors which brings us to where we are now. We can be excited and get behind the team into a new era or remain fixated with last season. I'm not burying my head in the sand or a "happy clapper", but they are the only two realistic options I see. I'm guessing by the sell-out of tickets for the first (televised) away game of the season that most fans are keeping the faith. bstokesaint
  • Score: 7

7:51pm Wed 13 Aug 14

miltonnroad76 says...

Unbeleivable comments are these posters really saints fans?..whining we dont buy then complaining it was too much money ..we have just got one the top england goalkeepers and hes **** coz he plays for celtic...forget the fact he was selected to go to brazil ......now we may have got a good striker in and because hes not a marqee signing they whine again...slagging players off before they have even kicked a ball..i guess these were same fans who said jay rod was a waste of money and that the club was asset stripping....are we a worse team with Long no..was it too much money yes but all transfers are overpriced...and so what we have got plenty to spend...Long seems a good hard working player he causes problems for defences and those querying his goal ratio should consider he was in two struggling teams.....if saints create the chances he will score them....i wonder who these negative ninnies expect us to buy ..some galactic superstar for 30 million or more aint gonna come to saints before the big 5 clubs ..and who exactly do these fantasy experts think is available?
Blaming the board and les reed is ridiculous do you think they wanted to sell any of them....see how lallana lovren behaved and how schneiderlin reacted why keep unhappy players when we are offered crazy money for them.Apart from cb we have replaced them all and time will tell how they turn out ...Koeman should get more respect for his judgment he is a proven winner as a player and manager yet fans are questioning his judgement already....I reckon its gonna be another great season and with money left for the jan window to fine tune it the squad is looking stronger with more options rather than relying on rickie and lallana ....and jay rod has started some running so thats another plus. up the saints!
Unbeleivable comments are these posters really saints fans?..whining we dont buy then complaining it was too much money ..we have just got one the top england goalkeepers and hes **** coz he plays for celtic...forget the fact he was selected to go to brazil ......now we may have got a good striker in and because hes not a marqee signing they whine again...slagging players off before they have even kicked a ball..i guess these were same fans who said jay rod was a waste of money and that the club was asset stripping....are we a worse team with Long no..was it too much money yes but all transfers are overpriced...and so what we have got plenty to spend...Long seems a good hard working player he causes problems for defences and those querying his goal ratio should consider he was in two struggling teams.....if saints create the chances he will score them....i wonder who these negative ninnies expect us to buy ..some galactic superstar for 30 million or more aint gonna come to saints before the big 5 clubs ..and who exactly do these fantasy experts think is available? Blaming the board and les reed is ridiculous do you think they wanted to sell any of them....see how lallana lovren behaved and how schneiderlin reacted why keep unhappy players when we are offered crazy money for them.Apart from cb we have replaced them all and time will tell how they turn out ...Koeman should get more respect for his judgment he is a proven winner as a player and manager yet fans are questioning his judgement already....I reckon its gonna be another great season and with money left for the jan window to fine tune it the squad is looking stronger with more options rather than relying on rickie and lallana ....and jay rod has started some running so thats another plus. up the saints! miltonnroad76
  • Score: 8

7:52pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

WobblyCat wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Good to have some more fresh blood in the squad, but definitely OVERPRICED.

I take it Les negoitiated the fee!!!
Happy for Les to sell , Lala, Luke Dejan as being overpriced to Liverhampton but £4 million over the odds on one player and we're all up in arms .........

I think this is a signing for the whole picture not just his own ability, a very good player who could well Gell Pelle and Tadic together !
Opinions again, I’d rather we bought back any of the above for what we sold them for than buy a historically average striker for 12 mill! Long went from WBA to Hull for about 6 million 6 months ago and scored 4 goals in 15 games, I fail to see why on earth his valued has doubled in that short tenure.
"Opinions again!" If you have a problem with opinions why do you bother having them? And, even more, why do bother posting them on here?
[quote][p][bold]WobblyCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: Good to have some more fresh blood in the squad, but definitely OVERPRICED. I take it Les negoitiated the fee!!![/p][/quote]Happy for Les to sell , Lala, Luke Dejan as being overpriced to Liverhampton but £4 million over the odds on one player and we're all up in arms ......... I think this is a signing for the whole picture not just his own ability, a very good player who could well Gell Pelle and Tadic together ![/p][/quote]Opinions again, I’d rather we bought back any of the above for what we sold them for than buy a historically average striker for 12 mill! Long went from WBA to Hull for about 6 million 6 months ago and scored 4 goals in 15 games, I fail to see why on earth his valued has doubled in that short tenure.[/p][/quote]"Opinions again!" If you have a problem with opinions why do you bother having them? And, even more, why do bother posting them on here? Rising_Son
  • Score: 5

8:02pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Mosschops says...

Feebee43 wrote:
Moan moan moan...they are damned if they buy and dammed when they don't. Shane Long hasn't even signed yet and it's all negative. Grumping about the cost, grumping as he score many for Hull he wasn't there very long!!
Nobody know what RoKo's plans are, how he plans to play, he may not even be the 1 trick donkey Poch was, so Long could just be what we need.
I'm going to stop reading all this negative trash on here, it's getting right on my nerves.
COYR's
Unbelievable isn't it? They want the world and anything less is a disgrace, a shambles. They keep going on about a 20 goal striker as if there are dozens knocking about. There's been seasons in the last decade where no player has achieved 20 goals. Of those that have you're looking at Ronaldo, Henry, RVP, Rooney, Drogba, Torres. In fact only Darren Bent is the only player in our bracket to achieve this feat. What's the betting they would moan if we bought him.
[quote][p][bold]Feebee43[/bold] wrote: Moan moan moan...they are damned if they buy and dammed when they don't. Shane Long hasn't even signed yet and it's all negative. Grumping about the cost, grumping as he score many for Hull he wasn't there very long!! Nobody know what RoKo's plans are, how he plans to play, he may not even be the 1 trick donkey Poch was, so Long could just be what we need. I'm going to stop reading all this negative trash on here, it's getting right on my nerves. COYR's[/p][/quote]Unbelievable isn't it? They want the world and anything less is a disgrace, a shambles. They keep going on about a 20 goal striker as if there are dozens knocking about. There's been seasons in the last decade where no player has achieved 20 goals. Of those that have you're looking at Ronaldo, Henry, RVP, Rooney, Drogba, Torres. In fact only Darren Bent is the only player in our bracket to achieve this feat. What's the betting they would moan if we bought him. Mosschops
  • Score: 2

8:02pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Crossley Place Saint says...

Billy Sharp, proven instinctive goalscorer at every level he's played at, sold for £0.45M without being given any chance to show his talent at Premiership level.

Shane Long, proven journeyman striker, bought for £12.5M having shown that his talent is capable of scoring around half a dozen goals a season at premiership level.

Strewth. I hope you know what you're doing, Les and Ralph.

They say a picture is worth a thousand words. The one at the head of this article seems to have been chosen very carefully.
Billy Sharp, proven instinctive goalscorer at every level he's played at, sold for £0.45M without being given any chance to show his talent at Premiership level. Shane Long, proven journeyman striker, bought for £12.5M having shown that his talent is capable of scoring around half a dozen goals a season at premiership level. Strewth. I hope you know what you're doing, Les and Ralph. They say a picture is worth a thousand words. The one at the head of this article seems to have been chosen very carefully. Crossley Place Saint
  • Score: -4

8:06pm Wed 13 Aug 14

redandy10 says...

Well the thread has spoken!

Hull saw us coming!!!
Well the thread has spoken! Hull saw us coming!!! redandy10
  • Score: 0

8:07pm Wed 13 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

Mosschops wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Question for our happy clappers;
Are you seriously happy with what has happened to our club over the summer?
Do you really believe that our quality players have been replaced by better players?
Can you put your hand on your hearts and say this board are doing everything that I would expect of them?
Try to be honest, because even the most ardent of you must be beginning to realise that we may have a complete shambles running our club.
The answer to those 3 questions is of course no. But the problem us "happy clappers" have your ultra negative view is the extreme conclusion you draw from the answers to your questions. Losing players, failing to replace them with better (or at least not guaranteed to be better - we don't as yet know) and the board perhaps making some mistakes in extremely testing conditions does not automatically equal a "shambles". You act as if you are the only one disappointed with the summer we've had just because you throw a bigger hissy fit. In life and football **** things happen, you get up, dust yourself down and cracked on to make a positive. If the board were like you they'd be sat in a corner sulking - that truly would be a shambles.
I have picked myself up and dusted myself down many a time as a Saints fan, but thought last season that this could be the end of it.

One board member , Cortese, has been replaced by five board members, Reed, Kruger, K. Liebherr, Gareth Rogers and David Bence.

We have lost 5 great players and a fantastic manager and replaced them with pricey unknowns plus a couple of loans.

We are on the verge of signing Shane Long for £12.5m

These five new board members have made more errors in 6 months than the club made in the last 5 years. This isn't me sulking but reflecting on what has happened since winter.
I sincerely hope it can be turned around, but the damage is too severe I think.
[quote][p][bold]Mosschops[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Question for our happy clappers; Are you seriously happy with what has happened to our club over the summer? Do you really believe that our quality players have been replaced by better players? Can you put your hand on your hearts and say this board are doing everything that I would expect of them? Try to be honest, because even the most ardent of you must be beginning to realise that we may have a complete shambles running our club.[/p][/quote]The answer to those 3 questions is of course no. But the problem us "happy clappers" have your ultra negative view is the extreme conclusion you draw from the answers to your questions. Losing players, failing to replace them with better (or at least not guaranteed to be better - we don't as yet know) and the board perhaps making some mistakes in extremely testing conditions does not automatically equal a "shambles". You act as if you are the only one disappointed with the summer we've had just because you throw a bigger hissy fit. In life and football **** things happen, you get up, dust yourself down and cracked on to make a positive. If the board were like you they'd be sat in a corner sulking - that truly would be a shambles.[/p][/quote]I have picked myself up and dusted myself down many a time as a Saints fan, but thought last season that this could be the end of it. One board member , Cortese, has been replaced by five board members, Reed, Kruger, K. Liebherr, Gareth Rogers and David Bence. We have lost 5 great players and a fantastic manager and replaced them with pricey unknowns plus a couple of loans. We are on the verge of signing Shane Long for £12.5m These five new board members have made more errors in 6 months than the club made in the last 5 years. This isn't me sulking but reflecting on what has happened since winter. I sincerely hope it can be turned around, but the damage is too severe I think. costa gaz
  • Score: -8

8:07pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

So sad so many comments on here at the moment. Fans slagging other fans off, one person berating someone for daring to have 'an opinion. '

Personally I can't remember us spending 47 million in one summer - not last year, not ever.

Yes, we have lost some of our most prized assets but you cannot blame the board for a lack of ambition when they are spending a record amount, in what are clearly difficult times in a hostile market. Look at players like Rojo and Lovren - there is no loyalty in the game anymore and, unless you have mega bucks to bandy around and a champions league birth, you cannot buy loyalty. Hence our current predicament.

But come on people, we are three days out from the start of the season and we should be excited - we should be giving the players our support, discussing team selection. I dread to think any of our players read these threads and see the abuse written about them by so-called fans.

Remember you are berating players who have either chosen to stay or who have chosen to come. You cannot slag those off who leave and those who choose to join. I am neither a 'HC' or 'neggie' but I do love this club and I am excited about the new season and believe we can beat anybody on our day, but it will take a lot of passion from our fans and a hell of an effort from our team, of whom I will be proud to support, whatever their names and whatever anybody says about them on here.
So sad so many comments on here at the moment. Fans slagging other fans off, one person berating someone for daring to have 'an opinion. ' Personally I can't remember us spending 47 million in one summer - not last year, not ever. Yes, we have lost some of our most prized assets but you cannot blame the board for a lack of ambition when they are spending a record amount, in what are clearly difficult times in a hostile market. Look at players like Rojo and Lovren - there is no loyalty in the game anymore and, unless you have mega bucks to bandy around and a champions league birth, you cannot buy loyalty. Hence our current predicament. But come on people, we are three days out from the start of the season and we should be excited - we should be giving the players our support, discussing team selection. I dread to think any of our players read these threads and see the abuse written about them by so-called fans. Remember you are berating players who have either chosen to stay or who have chosen to come. You cannot slag those off who leave and those who choose to join. I am neither a 'HC' or 'neggie' but I do love this club and I am excited about the new season and believe we can beat anybody on our day, but it will take a lot of passion from our fans and a hell of an effort from our team, of whom I will be proud to support, whatever their names and whatever anybody says about them on here. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 11

8:13pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Mosschops says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
Over priced but time is running out so held to ransom somewhat.

I think Les Reed & the board are starting to panic as spending £12m for a Striker who only scores 6 or 7 goals a season is a sign of this.

Another average Premiership player, we really needed a 20 + goals a season striker not an 7 to 9 a season one.
We must start signing BETTER quality players to really improve the 11 on the pitch.

As I feared Saints will waste the money on mediocre players and not top quality ones to improve the 11 on the pitch.
20 goals a season strikers go to the top clubs. You are going to have to accept that fact if you are a Saints fan or you will always be unhappy. Take a look at the list of 20+ goalscorer s in the last decade and it is a list of purely the cream of the crop plus Bent and Johnson. I you know a 20 goal player we could get then send a private email to Les because you know something worth an absolute fortune.
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Over priced but time is running out so held to ransom somewhat. I think Les Reed & the board are starting to panic as spending £12m for a Striker who only scores 6 or 7 goals a season is a sign of this. Another average Premiership player, we really needed a 20 + goals a season striker not an 7 to 9 a season one. We must start signing BETTER quality players to really improve the 11 on the pitch. As I feared Saints will waste the money on mediocre players and not top quality ones to improve the 11 on the pitch.[/p][/quote]20 goals a season strikers go to the top clubs. You are going to have to accept that fact if you are a Saints fan or you will always be unhappy. Take a look at the list of 20+ goalscorer s in the last decade and it is a list of purely the cream of the crop plus Bent and Johnson. I you know a 20 goal player we could get then send a private email to Les because you know something worth an absolute fortune. Mosschops
  • Score: 4

8:13pm Wed 13 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
Billy Sharp, proven instinctive goalscorer at every level he's played at, sold for £0.45M without being given any chance to show his talent at Premiership level.

Shane Long, proven journeyman striker, bought for £12.5M having shown that his talent is capable of scoring around half a dozen goals a season at premiership level.

Strewth. I hope you know what you're doing, Les and Ralph.

They say a picture is worth a thousand words. The one at the head of this article seems to have been chosen very carefully.
CP Saint, don't come on here and start spouting facts and commonsense.

Just looked at the pic.. lol just about sums him up.
[quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: Billy Sharp, proven instinctive goalscorer at every level he's played at, sold for £0.45M without being given any chance to show his talent at Premiership level. Shane Long, proven journeyman striker, bought for £12.5M having shown that his talent is capable of scoring around half a dozen goals a season at premiership level. Strewth. I hope you know what you're doing, Les and Ralph. They say a picture is worth a thousand words. The one at the head of this article seems to have been chosen very carefully.[/p][/quote]CP Saint, don't come on here and start spouting facts and commonsense. Just looked at the pic.. lol just about sums him up. costa gaz
  • Score: -3

8:16pm Wed 13 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

costa gaz wrote:
Mosschops wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Question for our happy clappers;
Are you seriously happy with what has happened to our club over the summer?
Do you really believe that our quality players have been replaced by better players?
Can you put your hand on your hearts and say this board are doing everything that I would expect of them?
Try to be honest, because even the most ardent of you must be beginning to realise that we may have a complete shambles running our club.
The answer to those 3 questions is of course no. But the problem us "happy clappers" have your ultra negative view is the extreme conclusion you draw from the answers to your questions. Losing players, failing to replace them with better (or at least not guaranteed to be better - we don't as yet know) and the board perhaps making some mistakes in extremely testing conditions does not automatically equal a "shambles". You act as if you are the only one disappointed with the summer we've had just because you throw a bigger hissy fit. In life and football **** things happen, you get up, dust yourself down and cracked on to make a positive. If the board were like you they'd be sat in a corner sulking - that truly would be a shambles.
I have picked myself up and dusted myself down many a time as a Saints fan, but thought last season that this could be the end of it.

One board member , Cortese, has been replaced by five board members, Reed, Kruger, K. Liebherr, Gareth Rogers and David Bence.

We have lost 5 great players and a fantastic manager and replaced them with pricey unknowns plus a couple of loans.

We are on the verge of signing Shane Long for £12.5m

These five new board members have made more errors in 6 months than the club made in the last 5 years. This isn't me sulking but reflecting on what has happened since winter.
I sincerely hope it can be turned around, but the damage is too severe I think.
Don't forget that apart from Les Reed, none of the new board are Football savy, it is a monster learning curve, in totally unknown territory, you would have to be a real genius to get it right straight away, and if they read some of the dross expounded on here they would have every right to think why should we bother?
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mosschops[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Question for our happy clappers; Are you seriously happy with what has happened to our club over the summer? Do you really believe that our quality players have been replaced by better players? Can you put your hand on your hearts and say this board are doing everything that I would expect of them? Try to be honest, because even the most ardent of you must be beginning to realise that we may have a complete shambles running our club.[/p][/quote]The answer to those 3 questions is of course no. But the problem us "happy clappers" have your ultra negative view is the extreme conclusion you draw from the answers to your questions. Losing players, failing to replace them with better (or at least not guaranteed to be better - we don't as yet know) and the board perhaps making some mistakes in extremely testing conditions does not automatically equal a "shambles". You act as if you are the only one disappointed with the summer we've had just because you throw a bigger hissy fit. In life and football **** things happen, you get up, dust yourself down and cracked on to make a positive. If the board were like you they'd be sat in a corner sulking - that truly would be a shambles.[/p][/quote]I have picked myself up and dusted myself down many a time as a Saints fan, but thought last season that this could be the end of it. One board member , Cortese, has been replaced by five board members, Reed, Kruger, K. Liebherr, Gareth Rogers and David Bence. We have lost 5 great players and a fantastic manager and replaced them with pricey unknowns plus a couple of loans. We are on the verge of signing Shane Long for £12.5m These five new board members have made more errors in 6 months than the club made in the last 5 years. This isn't me sulking but reflecting on what has happened since winter. I sincerely hope it can be turned around, but the damage is too severe I think.[/p][/quote]Don't forget that apart from Les Reed, none of the new board are Football savy, it is a monster learning curve, in totally unknown territory, you would have to be a real genius to get it right straight away, and if they read some of the dross expounded on here they would have every right to think why should we bother? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

8:17pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Shaw out for a month...ho hum :0)
Shaw out for a month...ho hum :0) Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

8:19pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

costa gaz wrote:
Crossley Place Saint wrote:
Billy Sharp, proven instinctive goalscorer at every level he's played at, sold for £0.45M without being given any chance to show his talent at Premiership level.

Shane Long, proven journeyman striker, bought for £12.5M having shown that his talent is capable of scoring around half a dozen goals a season at premiership level.

Strewth. I hope you know what you're doing, Les and Ralph.

They say a picture is worth a thousand words. The one at the head of this article seems to have been chosen very carefully.
CP Saint, don't come on here and start spouting facts and commonsense.

Just looked at the pic.. lol just about sums him up.
Slag off the players who leave, destroy the players who join - such a happy, family club we have. Lets hope Shane reads your comments tonight slagging off his photo too. Well done, you got a cheap laugh at his expense.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: Billy Sharp, proven instinctive goalscorer at every level he's played at, sold for £0.45M without being given any chance to show his talent at Premiership level. Shane Long, proven journeyman striker, bought for £12.5M having shown that his talent is capable of scoring around half a dozen goals a season at premiership level. Strewth. I hope you know what you're doing, Les and Ralph. They say a picture is worth a thousand words. The one at the head of this article seems to have been chosen very carefully.[/p][/quote]CP Saint, don't come on here and start spouting facts and commonsense. Just looked at the pic.. lol just about sums him up.[/p][/quote]Slag off the players who leave, destroy the players who join - such a happy, family club we have. Lets hope Shane reads your comments tonight slagging off his photo too. Well done, you got a cheap laugh at his expense. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 3

8:20pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Mosschops wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Question for our happy clappers;
Are you seriously happy with what has happened to our club over the summer?
Do you really believe that our quality players have been replaced by better players?
Can you put your hand on your hearts and say this board are doing everything that I would expect of them?
Try to be honest, because even the most ardent of you must be beginning to realise that we may have a complete shambles running our club.
The answer to those 3 questions is of course no. But the problem us "happy clappers" have your ultra negative view is the extreme conclusion you draw from the answers to your questions. Losing players, failing to replace them with better (or at least not guaranteed to be better - we don't as yet know) and the board perhaps making some mistakes in extremely testing conditions does not automatically equal a "shambles". You act as if you are the only one disappointed with the summer we've had just because you throw a bigger hissy fit. In life and football **** things happen, you get up, dust yourself down and cracked on to make a positive. If the board were like you they'd be sat in a corner sulking - that truly would be a shambles.
I have picked myself up and dusted myself down many a time as a Saints fan, but thought last season that this could be the end of it.

One board member , Cortese, has been replaced by five board members, Reed, Kruger, K. Liebherr, Gareth Rogers and David Bence.

We have lost 5 great players and a fantastic manager and replaced them with pricey unknowns plus a couple of loans.

We are on the verge of signing Shane Long for £12.5m

These five new board members have made more errors in 6 months than the club made in the last 5 years. This isn't me sulking but reflecting on what has happened since winter.
I sincerely hope it can be turned around, but the damage is too severe I think.
Don't forget that apart from Les Reed, none of the new board are Football savy, it is a monster learning curve, in totally unknown territory, you would have to be a real genius to get it right straight away, and if they read some of the dross expounded on here they would have every right to think why should we bother?
That is exactly why you don't chose an inexperienced board when you are lying 8th in the Prem and facing aggressive approaches for your team.

Come on Hampshire! Making a right good chase of this.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mosschops[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Question for our happy clappers; Are you seriously happy with what has happened to our club over the summer? Do you really believe that our quality players have been replaced by better players? Can you put your hand on your hearts and say this board are doing everything that I would expect of them? Try to be honest, because even the most ardent of you must be beginning to realise that we may have a complete shambles running our club.[/p][/quote]The answer to those 3 questions is of course no. But the problem us "happy clappers" have your ultra negative view is the extreme conclusion you draw from the answers to your questions. Losing players, failing to replace them with better (or at least not guaranteed to be better - we don't as yet know) and the board perhaps making some mistakes in extremely testing conditions does not automatically equal a "shambles". You act as if you are the only one disappointed with the summer we've had just because you throw a bigger hissy fit. In life and football **** things happen, you get up, dust yourself down and cracked on to make a positive. If the board were like you they'd be sat in a corner sulking - that truly would be a shambles.[/p][/quote]I have picked myself up and dusted myself down many a time as a Saints fan, but thought last season that this could be the end of it. One board member , Cortese, has been replaced by five board members, Reed, Kruger, K. Liebherr, Gareth Rogers and David Bence. We have lost 5 great players and a fantastic manager and replaced them with pricey unknowns plus a couple of loans. We are on the verge of signing Shane Long for £12.5m These five new board members have made more errors in 6 months than the club made in the last 5 years. This isn't me sulking but reflecting on what has happened since winter. I sincerely hope it can be turned around, but the damage is too severe I think.[/p][/quote]Don't forget that apart from Les Reed, none of the new board are Football savy, it is a monster learning curve, in totally unknown territory, you would have to be a real genius to get it right straight away, and if they read some of the dross expounded on here they would have every right to think why should we bother?[/p][/quote]That is exactly why you don't chose an inexperienced board when you are lying 8th in the Prem and facing aggressive approaches for your team. Come on Hampshire! Making a right good chase of this. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -1

8:20pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Mosschops says...

costa gaz wrote:
elvis wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Would the last happy clapper to leave the building kindly turn out our wonderful led lights out.

This is going from bad to worse... Think about it seriously, Shane Long, he is basically b*******y rubbish, no offence but... , even the most ardent HC must realise that £12.5m spent on a f******g donkey will lead to one thing.

Keep clapping boys... you board needs you.
You're a right ray of sunshine aren't you ? I bet you're a great laugh on a Friday night out .... Yeah ok Long is overpriced ,but that's hardly his fault ....from what I've seen & read Hull fans are disappointed to see him go .... let's hope he doesn't read some of the comments on here & decide to stay .... x
You have read nothing, Hull fans are over the moon to get £12.5m for this average player, knowing that Bruce will invest it in a young goal scorer for less than half the price.
It is a ridiculous deal if it goes through.
I have been reading this message board all summer and not once did a single poster say ''Get Shane Long, he is brilliant and will cost us less than £13m''

All of a sudden he is good business??? give me strength.
No they are not. They are the same as we are about selling our players, albeit we sold 5 so we're more annoyed. They think they got a good price but are upset to lose their best striker. They fear getting Deeley who they consider a poor replacement for Long whom they rated. Who is the young starlet for half the price that you would be happy with?
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Would the last happy clapper to leave the building kindly turn out our wonderful led lights out. This is going from bad to worse... Think about it seriously, Shane Long, he is basically b*******y rubbish, no offence but... , even the most ardent HC must realise that £12.5m spent on a f******g donkey will lead to one thing. Keep clapping boys... you board needs you.[/p][/quote]You're a right ray of sunshine aren't you ? I bet you're a great laugh on a Friday night out .... Yeah ok Long is overpriced ,but that's hardly his fault ....from what I've seen & read Hull fans are disappointed to see him go .... let's hope he doesn't read some of the comments on here & decide to stay .... x[/p][/quote]You have read nothing, Hull fans are over the moon to get £12.5m for this average player, knowing that Bruce will invest it in a young goal scorer for less than half the price. It is a ridiculous deal if it goes through. I have been reading this message board all summer and not once did a single poster say ''Get Shane Long, he is brilliant and will cost us less than £13m'' All of a sudden he is good business??? give me strength.[/p][/quote]No they are not. They are the same as we are about selling our players, albeit we sold 5 so we're more annoyed. They think they got a good price but are upset to lose their best striker. They fear getting Deeley who they consider a poor replacement for Long whom they rated. Who is the young starlet for half the price that you would be happy with? Mosschops
  • Score: 2

8:23pm Wed 13 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Mosschops wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Question for our happy clappers;
Are you seriously happy with what has happened to our club over the summer?
Do you really believe that our quality players have been replaced by better players?
Can you put your hand on your hearts and say this board are doing everything that I would expect of them?
Try to be honest, because even the most ardent of you must be beginning to realise that we may have a complete shambles running our club.
The answer to those 3 questions is of course no. But the problem us "happy clappers" have your ultra negative view is the extreme conclusion you draw from the answers to your questions. Losing players, failing to replace them with better (or at least not guaranteed to be better - we don't as yet know) and the board perhaps making some mistakes in extremely testing conditions does not automatically equal a "shambles". You act as if you are the only one disappointed with the summer we've had just because you throw a bigger hissy fit. In life and football **** things happen, you get up, dust yourself down and cracked on to make a positive. If the board were like you they'd be sat in a corner sulking - that truly would be a shambles.
I have picked myself up and dusted myself down many a time as a Saints fan, but thought last season that this could be the end of it.

One board member , Cortese, has been replaced by five board members, Reed, Kruger, K. Liebherr, Gareth Rogers and David Bence.

We have lost 5 great players and a fantastic manager and replaced them with pricey unknowns plus a couple of loans.

We are on the verge of signing Shane Long for £12.5m

These five new board members have made more errors in 6 months than the club made in the last 5 years. This isn't me sulking but reflecting on what has happened since winter.
I sincerely hope it can be turned around, but the damage is too severe I think.
Don't forget that apart from Les Reed, none of the new board are Football savy, it is a monster learning curve, in totally unknown territory, you would have to be a real genius to get it right straight away, and if they read some of the dross expounded on here they would have every right to think why should we bother?
Exactly my point!! at last the penny has dropped, why bring in non-football people?
This is the English Premier League... it does not give you a chance to learn the game, you have to know the ins and outs before you take on or give someone the chance, It will show NO MERCY.
This is where we have failed, and KL relied on Les Reed far too much.
Les Reed has failed wherever he has been and he will leading us to oblivion unless he is stopped.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mosschops[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Question for our happy clappers; Are you seriously happy with what has happened to our club over the summer? Do you really believe that our quality players have been replaced by better players? Can you put your hand on your hearts and say this board are doing everything that I would expect of them? Try to be honest, because even the most ardent of you must be beginning to realise that we may have a complete shambles running our club.[/p][/quote]The answer to those 3 questions is of course no. But the problem us "happy clappers" have your ultra negative view is the extreme conclusion you draw from the answers to your questions. Losing players, failing to replace them with better (or at least not guaranteed to be better - we don't as yet know) and the board perhaps making some mistakes in extremely testing conditions does not automatically equal a "shambles". You act as if you are the only one disappointed with the summer we've had just because you throw a bigger hissy fit. In life and football **** things happen, you get up, dust yourself down and cracked on to make a positive. If the board were like you they'd be sat in a corner sulking - that truly would be a shambles.[/p][/quote]I have picked myself up and dusted myself down many a time as a Saints fan, but thought last season that this could be the end of it. One board member , Cortese, has been replaced by five board members, Reed, Kruger, K. Liebherr, Gareth Rogers and David Bence. We have lost 5 great players and a fantastic manager and replaced them with pricey unknowns plus a couple of loans. We are on the verge of signing Shane Long for £12.5m These five new board members have made more errors in 6 months than the club made in the last 5 years. This isn't me sulking but reflecting on what has happened since winter. I sincerely hope it can be turned around, but the damage is too severe I think.[/p][/quote]Don't forget that apart from Les Reed, none of the new board are Football savy, it is a monster learning curve, in totally unknown territory, you would have to be a real genius to get it right straight away, and if they read some of the dross expounded on here they would have every right to think why should we bother?[/p][/quote]Exactly my point!! at last the penny has dropped, why bring in non-football people? This is the English Premier League... it does not give you a chance to learn the game, you have to know the ins and outs before you take on or give someone the chance, It will show NO MERCY. This is where we have failed, and KL relied on Les Reed far too much. Les Reed has failed wherever he has been and he will leading us to oblivion unless he is stopped. costa gaz
  • Score: -4

8:23pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Shaw out for a month...ho hum :0)
He can go on a nice long holiday with his mate Adam :)
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: Shaw out for a month...ho hum :0)[/p][/quote]He can go on a nice long holiday with his mate Adam :) Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 3

8:24pm Wed 13 Aug 14

saint robbie says...

Got a feeling this will be a great signing, someone who will never give up running and could really lift the crowd.
No not the marque signing we had maybe hoped for but another good addition to the squad and in my opinion the type of player we have missed since Brett Ormerod.
Got a feeling this will be a great signing, someone who will never give up running and could really lift the crowd. No not the marque signing we had maybe hoped for but another good addition to the squad and in my opinion the type of player we have missed since Brett Ormerod. saint robbie
  • Score: 3

8:24pm Wed 13 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Rising_Son wrote:
WobblyCat wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Good to have some more fresh blood in the squad, but definitely OVERPRICED.

I take it Les negoitiated the fee!!!
Happy for Les to sell , Lala, Luke Dejan as being overpriced to Liverhampton but £4 million over the odds on one player and we're all up in arms .........

I think this is a signing for the whole picture not just his own ability, a very good player who could well Gell Pelle and Tadic together !
Opinions again, I’d rather we bought back any of the above for what we sold them for than buy a historically average striker for 12 mill! Long went from WBA to Hull for about 6 million 6 months ago and scored 4 goals in 15 games, I fail to see why on earth his valued has doubled in that short tenure.
"Opinions again!" If you have a problem with opinions why do you bother having them? And, even more, why do bother posting them on here?
Should we be unhappy at the addition of a player like Long - IMHO the answer is no he will give a lot of speed and aggression to our front line and maybe making the room/opportunities for Pelle and/or JRod or Sam to do the business. I would be happier if we were to purchase/loan another striker as well as Long and I would have been happier if we had managed to get him a few mill squids cheaper too.

There could be another striker yet or maybe in Jan.
Need another RB and CB or two in one (Chris Smalling is avail according to the gossip.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WobblyCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: Good to have some more fresh blood in the squad, but definitely OVERPRICED. I take it Les negoitiated the fee!!![/p][/quote]Happy for Les to sell , Lala, Luke Dejan as being overpriced to Liverhampton but £4 million over the odds on one player and we're all up in arms ......... I think this is a signing for the whole picture not just his own ability, a very good player who could well Gell Pelle and Tadic together ![/p][/quote]Opinions again, I’d rather we bought back any of the above for what we sold them for than buy a historically average striker for 12 mill! Long went from WBA to Hull for about 6 million 6 months ago and scored 4 goals in 15 games, I fail to see why on earth his valued has doubled in that short tenure.[/p][/quote]"Opinions again!" If you have a problem with opinions why do you bother having them? And, even more, why do bother posting them on here?[/p][/quote]Should we be unhappy at the addition of a player like Long - IMHO the answer is no he will give a lot of speed and aggression to our front line and maybe making the room/opportunities for Pelle and/or JRod or Sam to do the business. I would be happier if we were to purchase/loan another striker as well as Long and I would have been happier if we had managed to get him a few mill squids cheaper too. There could be another striker yet or maybe in Jan. Need another RB and CB or two in one (Chris Smalling is avail according to the gossip. jls217
  • Score: 1

8:25pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

costa gaz wrote:
Crossley Place Saint wrote:
Billy Sharp, proven instinctive goalscorer at every level he's played at, sold for £0.45M without being given any chance to show his talent at Premiership level.

Shane Long, proven journeyman striker, bought for £12.5M having shown that his talent is capable of scoring around half a dozen goals a season at premiership level.

Strewth. I hope you know what you're doing, Les and Ralph.

They say a picture is worth a thousand words. The one at the head of this article seems to have been chosen very carefully.
CP Saint, don't come on here and start spouting facts and commonsense.

Just looked at the pic.. lol just about sums him up.
So, Billy Sharp is so good he's going to ManU for a fortune and a hugely increased wage? No he going to Leeds United on a free and a reduced wage packet. What exactly are the facts you are referring to?
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: Billy Sharp, proven instinctive goalscorer at every level he's played at, sold for £0.45M without being given any chance to show his talent at Premiership level. Shane Long, proven journeyman striker, bought for £12.5M having shown that his talent is capable of scoring around half a dozen goals a season at premiership level. Strewth. I hope you know what you're doing, Les and Ralph. They say a picture is worth a thousand words. The one at the head of this article seems to have been chosen very carefully.[/p][/quote]CP Saint, don't come on here and start spouting facts and commonsense. Just looked at the pic.. lol just about sums him up.[/p][/quote]So, Billy Sharp is so good he's going to ManU for a fortune and a hugely increased wage? No he going to Leeds United on a free and a reduced wage packet. What exactly are the facts you are referring to? Rising_Son
  • Score: 3

8:27pm Wed 13 Aug 14

elvis says...

costa gaz wrote:
SouthamptonLegend wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
elvis wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Would the last happy clapper to leave the building kindly turn out our wonderful led lights out.

This is going from bad to worse... Think about it seriously, Shane Long, he is basically b*******y rubbish, no offence but... , even the most ardent HC must realise that £12.5m spent on a f******g donkey will lead to one thing.

Keep clapping boys... you board needs you.
You're a right ray of sunshine aren't you ? I bet you're a great laugh on a Friday night out .... Yeah ok Long is overpriced ,but that's hardly his fault ....from what I've seen & read Hull fans are disappointed to see him go .... let's hope he doesn't read some of the comments on here & decide to stay .... x
You have read nothing, Hull fans are over the moon to get £12.5m for this average player, knowing that Bruce will invest it in a young goal scorer for less than half the price.
It is a ridiculous deal if it goes through.
I have been reading this message board all summer and not once did a single poster say ''Get Shane Long, he is brilliant and will cost us less than £13m''

All of a sudden he is good business??? give me strength.
Come on then Gary The Goat! Who would you want us to sign???
Legend, it is not a point of who I would sign, it is not up to me.
It is up to a board of directors who are are paid millions between them to come up with someone who will be good for the club.
Have you ever said that signing Shane Long at £13m would be good business for us and more to the point, do you think that it is now?
It's panic buying at it's worst.

p.s. it's just costa gaz or just gaz please.
Gaz, it's hardly panic buying is it ? Nobody is disputing that were paying over the odds but clearly the board / Ron think he will add something that we don't have ....yes there have been many different names bandied around but how many of them were realistic targets? ....how many of them would have fitted in ? How many actually would have been interested in coming ? Long is British ( or Irish if you prefer ) he has plenty of Premier league experience .... & gives 100 % ....personally I think he looks a better long term prospect than Dani ever did .... Personally I would have liked to have seen Danny Ings he's young ,English & somebody who can score that amount of goals in the Championship will score in the Premiership ,failing that Austin or Rhodes , I note you don't have preference ....so is it safe to assume you're choice is anybody except Shane Long ? X
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Would the last happy clapper to leave the building kindly turn out our wonderful led lights out. This is going from bad to worse... Think about it seriously, Shane Long, he is basically b*******y rubbish, no offence but... , even the most ardent HC must realise that £12.5m spent on a f******g donkey will lead to one thing. Keep clapping boys... you board needs you.[/p][/quote]You're a right ray of sunshine aren't you ? I bet you're a great laugh on a Friday night out .... Yeah ok Long is overpriced ,but that's hardly his fault ....from what I've seen & read Hull fans are disappointed to see him go .... let's hope he doesn't read some of the comments on here & decide to stay .... x[/p][/quote]You have read nothing, Hull fans are over the moon to get £12.5m for this average player, knowing that Bruce will invest it in a young goal scorer for less than half the price. It is a ridiculous deal if it goes through. I have been reading this message board all summer and not once did a single poster say ''Get Shane Long, he is brilliant and will cost us less than £13m'' All of a sudden he is good business??? give me strength.[/p][/quote]Come on then Gary The Goat! Who would you want us to sign???[/p][/quote]Legend, it is not a point of who I would sign, it is not up to me. It is up to a board of directors who are are paid millions between them to come up with someone who will be good for the club. Have you ever said that signing Shane Long at £13m would be good business for us and more to the point, do you think that it is now? It's panic buying at it's worst. p.s. it's just costa gaz or just gaz please.[/p][/quote]Gaz, it's hardly panic buying is it ? Nobody is disputing that were paying over the odds but clearly the board / Ron think he will add something that we don't have ....yes there have been many different names bandied around but how many of them were realistic targets? ....how many of them would have fitted in ? How many actually would have been interested in coming ? Long is British ( or Irish if you prefer ) he has plenty of Premier league experience .... & gives 100 % ....personally I think he looks a better long term prospect than Dani ever did .... Personally I would have liked to have seen Danny Ings he's young ,English & somebody who can score that amount of goals in the Championship will score in the Premiership ,failing that Austin or Rhodes , I note you don't have preference ....so is it safe to assume you're choice is anybody except Shane Long ? X elvis
  • Score: 1

8:30pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Shaw out for a month...ho hum :0)
He can go on a nice long holiday with his mate Adam :)
Now that you're smiling a bit, how about getting out of your pram and picking up your toys.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: Shaw out for a month...ho hum :0)[/p][/quote]He can go on a nice long holiday with his mate Adam :)[/p][/quote]Now that you're smiling a bit, how about getting out of your pram and picking up your toys. Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

8:34pm Wed 13 Aug 14

saint robbie says...

To all the neggies on here, remember that guy called Rickie Lambert, well he was hardly a proven top level striker until he joined the saints and look what happend to him. Long has his best years ahead and will certainly improve with a proper coaching outfit.
The futures looking good, imagine how we would be feeling if we had appointed Steve Bruce?
To all the neggies on here, remember that guy called Rickie Lambert, well he was hardly a proven top level striker until he joined the saints and look what happend to him. Long has his best years ahead and will certainly improve with a proper coaching outfit. The futures looking good, imagine how we would be feeling if we had appointed Steve Bruce? saint robbie
  • Score: -1

8:35pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Mosschops says...

miltonnroad76 wrote:
Unbeleivable comments are these posters really saints fans?..whining we dont buy then complaining it was too much money ..we have just got one the top england goalkeepers and hes **** coz he plays for celtic...forget the fact he was selected to go to brazil ......now we may have got a good striker in and because hes not a marqee signing they whine again...slagging players off before they have even kicked a ball..i guess these were same fans who said jay rod was a waste of money and that the club was asset stripping....are we a worse team with Long no..was it too much money yes but all transfers are overpriced...and so what we have got plenty to spend...Long seems a good hard working player he causes problems for defences and those querying his goal ratio should consider he was in two struggling teams.....if saints create the chances he will score them....i wonder who these negative ninnies expect us to buy ..some galactic superstar for 30 million or more aint gonna come to saints before the big 5 clubs ..and who exactly do these fantasy experts think is available?
Blaming the board and les reed is ridiculous do you think they wanted to sell any of them....see how lallana lovren behaved and how schneiderlin reacted why keep unhappy players when we are offered crazy money for them.Apart from cb we have replaced them all and time will tell how they turn out ...Koeman should get more respect for his judgment he is a proven winner as a player and manager yet fans are questioning his judgement already....I reckon its gonna be another great season and with money left for the jan window to fine tune it the squad is looking stronger with more options rather than relying on rickie and lallana ....and jay rod has started some running so thats another plus. up the saints!
Great post. Not one of those knocking Long has actually stated who we should have bought. Apart from Hernandez, who refused to come - what were we supposed to do, hold his mum at knife point unless he signed.
[quote][p][bold]miltonnroad76[/bold] wrote: Unbeleivable comments are these posters really saints fans?..whining we dont buy then complaining it was too much money ..we have just got one the top england goalkeepers and hes **** coz he plays for celtic...forget the fact he was selected to go to brazil ......now we may have got a good striker in and because hes not a marqee signing they whine again...slagging players off before they have even kicked a ball..i guess these were same fans who said jay rod was a waste of money and that the club was asset stripping....are we a worse team with Long no..was it too much money yes but all transfers are overpriced...and so what we have got plenty to spend...Long seems a good hard working player he causes problems for defences and those querying his goal ratio should consider he was in two struggling teams.....if saints create the chances he will score them....i wonder who these negative ninnies expect us to buy ..some galactic superstar for 30 million or more aint gonna come to saints before the big 5 clubs ..and who exactly do these fantasy experts think is available? Blaming the board and les reed is ridiculous do you think they wanted to sell any of them....see how lallana lovren behaved and how schneiderlin reacted why keep unhappy players when we are offered crazy money for them.Apart from cb we have replaced them all and time will tell how they turn out ...Koeman should get more respect for his judgment he is a proven winner as a player and manager yet fans are questioning his judgement already....I reckon its gonna be another great season and with money left for the jan window to fine tune it the squad is looking stronger with more options rather than relying on rickie and lallana ....and jay rod has started some running so thats another plus. up the saints![/p][/quote]Great post. Not one of those knocking Long has actually stated who we should have bought. Apart from Hernandez, who refused to come - what were we supposed to do, hold his mum at knife point unless he signed. Mosschops
  • Score: 3

8:36pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

jls217 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
WobblyCat wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Good to have some more fresh blood in the squad, but definitely OVERPRICED.

I take it Les negoitiated the fee!!!
Happy for Les to sell , Lala, Luke Dejan as being overpriced to Liverhampton but £4 million over the odds on one player and we're all up in arms .........

I think this is a signing for the whole picture not just his own ability, a very good player who could well Gell Pelle and Tadic together !
Opinions again, I’d rather we bought back any of the above for what we sold them for than buy a historically average striker for 12 mill! Long went from WBA to Hull for about 6 million 6 months ago and scored 4 goals in 15 games, I fail to see why on earth his valued has doubled in that short tenure.
"Opinions again!" If you have a problem with opinions why do you bother having them? And, even more, why do bother posting them on here?
Should we be unhappy at the addition of a player like Long - IMHO the answer is no he will give a lot of speed and aggression to our front line and maybe making the room/opportunities for Pelle and/or JRod or Sam to do the business. I would be happier if we were to purchase/loan another striker as well as Long and I would have been happier if we had managed to get him a few mill squids cheaper too.

There could be another striker yet or maybe in Jan.
Need another RB and CB or two in one (Chris Smalling is avail according to the gossip.
Long wasn't on my wishlist but, when he wears a Saints shirt I hope he is a worldbeater. Not that impressed with Smalling either but, he he becomes a Saint, ...
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WobblyCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: Good to have some more fresh blood in the squad, but definitely OVERPRICED. I take it Les negoitiated the fee!!![/p][/quote]Happy for Les to sell , Lala, Luke Dejan as being overpriced to Liverhampton but £4 million over the odds on one player and we're all up in arms ......... I think this is a signing for the whole picture not just his own ability, a very good player who could well Gell Pelle and Tadic together ![/p][/quote]Opinions again, I’d rather we bought back any of the above for what we sold them for than buy a historically average striker for 12 mill! Long went from WBA to Hull for about 6 million 6 months ago and scored 4 goals in 15 games, I fail to see why on earth his valued has doubled in that short tenure.[/p][/quote]"Opinions again!" If you have a problem with opinions why do you bother having them? And, even more, why do bother posting them on here?[/p][/quote]Should we be unhappy at the addition of a player like Long - IMHO the answer is no he will give a lot of speed and aggression to our front line and maybe making the room/opportunities for Pelle and/or JRod or Sam to do the business. I would be happier if we were to purchase/loan another striker as well as Long and I would have been happier if we had managed to get him a few mill squids cheaper too. There could be another striker yet or maybe in Jan. Need another RB and CB or two in one (Chris Smalling is avail according to the gossip.[/p][/quote]Long wasn't on my wishlist but, when he wears a Saints shirt I hope he is a worldbeater. Not that impressed with Smalling either but, he he becomes a Saint, ... Rising_Son
  • Score: 2

8:38pm Wed 13 Aug 14

elvis says...

saint robbie wrote:
To all the neggies on here, remember that guy called Rickie Lambert, well he was hardly a proven top level striker until he joined the saints and look what happend to him. Long has his best years ahead and will certainly improve with a proper coaching outfit.
The futures looking good, imagine how we would be feeling if we had appointed Steve Bruce?
Devastated hahahaha
[quote][p][bold]saint robbie[/bold] wrote: To all the neggies on here, remember that guy called Rickie Lambert, well he was hardly a proven top level striker until he joined the saints and look what happend to him. Long has his best years ahead and will certainly improve with a proper coaching outfit. The futures looking good, imagine how we would be feeling if we had appointed Steve Bruce?[/p][/quote]Devastated hahahaha elvis
  • Score: 3

8:39pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Rising_Son wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
WobblyCat wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Good to have some more fresh blood in the squad, but definitely OVERPRICED.

I take it Les negoitiated the fee!!!
Happy for Les to sell , Lala, Luke Dejan as being overpriced to Liverhampton but £4 million over the odds on one player and we're all up in arms .........

I think this is a signing for the whole picture not just his own ability, a very good player who could well Gell Pelle and Tadic together !
Opinions again, I’d rather we bought back any of the above for what we sold them for than buy a historically average striker for 12 mill! Long went from WBA to Hull for about 6 million 6 months ago and scored 4 goals in 15 games, I fail to see why on earth his valued has doubled in that short tenure.
"Opinions again!" If you have a problem with opinions why do you bother having them? And, even more, why do bother posting them on here?
Should we be unhappy at the addition of a player like Long - IMHO the answer is no he will give a lot of speed and aggression to our front line and maybe making the room/opportunities for Pelle and/or JRod or Sam to do the business. I would be happier if we were to purchase/loan another striker as well as Long and I would have been happier if we had managed to get him a few mill squids cheaper too.

There could be another striker yet or maybe in Jan.
Need another RB and CB or two in one (Chris Smalling is avail according to the gossip.
Long wasn't on my wishlist but, when he wears a Saints shirt I hope he is a worldbeater. Not that impressed with Smalling either but, he he becomes a Saint, ...
None of the Hull fans interviewed on BBC "Look North" tonight wanted to see him go,although I got the feeling they all thought it was "a good bit of business" by the club.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WobblyCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: Good to have some more fresh blood in the squad, but definitely OVERPRICED. I take it Les negoitiated the fee!!![/p][/quote]Happy for Les to sell , Lala, Luke Dejan as being overpriced to Liverhampton but £4 million over the odds on one player and we're all up in arms ......... I think this is a signing for the whole picture not just his own ability, a very good player who could well Gell Pelle and Tadic together ![/p][/quote]Opinions again, I’d rather we bought back any of the above for what we sold them for than buy a historically average striker for 12 mill! Long went from WBA to Hull for about 6 million 6 months ago and scored 4 goals in 15 games, I fail to see why on earth his valued has doubled in that short tenure.[/p][/quote]"Opinions again!" If you have a problem with opinions why do you bother having them? And, even more, why do bother posting them on here?[/p][/quote]Should we be unhappy at the addition of a player like Long - IMHO the answer is no he will give a lot of speed and aggression to our front line and maybe making the room/opportunities for Pelle and/or JRod or Sam to do the business. I would be happier if we were to purchase/loan another striker as well as Long and I would have been happier if we had managed to get him a few mill squids cheaper too. There could be another striker yet or maybe in Jan. Need another RB and CB or two in one (Chris Smalling is avail according to the gossip.[/p][/quote]Long wasn't on my wishlist but, when he wears a Saints shirt I hope he is a worldbeater. Not that impressed with Smalling either but, he he becomes a Saint, ...[/p][/quote]None of the Hull fans interviewed on BBC "Look North" tonight wanted to see him go,although I got the feeling they all thought it was "a good bit of business" by the club. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 3

8:40pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Crossley Place Saint says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Shaw out for a month...ho hum :0)
What a pity....

As soon as he arrived at ManUre he was assessed as unfit and ordered to train alone. That really makes me wonder about our £30M++ state-of-the-art Staplewood training facility, with its individual "sports science" monitoring of each player's blood flow, stamina, lung capacity, etc.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: Shaw out for a month...ho hum :0)[/p][/quote]What a pity.... As soon as he arrived at ManUre he was assessed as unfit and ordered to train alone. That really makes me wonder about our £30M++ state-of-the-art Staplewood training facility, with its individual "sports science" monitoring of each player's blood flow, stamina, lung capacity, etc. Crossley Place Saint
  • Score: -2

8:44pm Wed 13 Aug 14

thinklikealocal says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems.

Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger.

Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.
Don't forget the board are working on improving our revenues.

Just received an email offering corporate customers the chance to bring a guest to the first game of the season at half price. Last season that particular package was sold out for the whole season and now they're offering a discount on the opening game!

But they've not facked right up - honest! CLAP CLAP CLAP....
So you think these kind of revenue streams are the 'make or break' in terms of growing the clubs overall financial status and making a difference in terms of the FFP rules. Naive in the extreme and certainly no businessman. Glad you are not running the club!
Every little helps and they are obviously down on last year which is a bad sign. But then you knew that didn't you?
Every little helps? We are not talking about a Boy Scout reaching his £10 fundraising target here. Ridiculous comment. Our summer sales and careful purchasing have placed us in an excellent position to 'work around' the FFP rules in the 2015/16 season. Clue up commercially then think about it. Sadly, although you are a prolific opinion provider on this site, I doubt that will happen.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems. Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger. Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.[/p][/quote]Don't forget the board are working on improving our revenues. Just received an email offering corporate customers the chance to bring a guest to the first game of the season at half price. Last season that particular package was sold out for the whole season and now they're offering a discount on the opening game! But they've not facked right up - honest! CLAP CLAP CLAP....[/p][/quote]So you think these kind of revenue streams are the 'make or break' in terms of growing the clubs overall financial status and making a difference in terms of the FFP rules. Naive in the extreme and certainly no businessman. Glad you are not running the club![/p][/quote]Every little helps and they are obviously down on last year which is a bad sign. But then you knew that didn't you?[/p][/quote]Every little helps? We are not talking about a Boy Scout reaching his £10 fundraising target here. Ridiculous comment. Our summer sales and careful purchasing have placed us in an excellent position to 'work around' the FFP rules in the 2015/16 season. Clue up commercially then think about it. Sadly, although you are a prolific opinion provider on this site, I doubt that will happen. thinklikealocal
  • Score: 0

8:46pm Wed 13 Aug 14

bstokesaint says...

costa gaz wrote:
Mosschops wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Question for our happy clappers;
Are you seriously happy with what has happened to our club over the summer?
Do you really believe that our quality players have been replaced by better players?
Can you put your hand on your hearts and say this board are doing everything that I would expect of them?
Try to be honest, because even the most ardent of you must be beginning to realise that we may have a complete shambles running our club.
The answer to those 3 questions is of course no. But the problem us "happy clappers" have your ultra negative view is the extreme conclusion you draw from the answers to your questions. Losing players, failing to replace them with better (or at least not guaranteed to be better - we don't as yet know) and the board perhaps making some mistakes in extremely testing conditions does not automatically equal a "shambles". You act as if you are the only one disappointed with the summer we've had just because you throw a bigger hissy fit. In life and football **** things happen, you get up, dust yourself down and cracked on to make a positive. If the board were like you they'd be sat in a corner sulking - that truly would be a shambles.
I have picked myself up and dusted myself down many a time as a Saints fan, but thought last season that this could be the end of it.

One board member , Cortese, has been replaced by five board members, Reed, Kruger, K. Liebherr, Gareth Rogers and David Bence.

We have lost 5 great players and a fantastic manager and replaced them with pricey unknowns plus a couple of loans.

We are on the verge of signing Shane Long for £12.5m

These five new board members have made more errors in 6 months than the club made in the last 5 years. This isn't me sulking but reflecting on what has happened since winter.
I sincerely hope it can be turned around, but the damage is too severe I think.
Gaz, I think it's a bit unfair to judge the board until we see where this season takes us. The board of five replaced the single egomaniac because in business giving one person so much power is suicide. It's a learning curve definitely, but time will tell.

As for losing 5 great players I agree, but we've got some quality back and some unknowns. Lovren was an unknown and he turned out alright. As a player. And finally Pochettino "fantastic". I think that's generous. He inherited a fantastic team that much is true. But we all know he had no plan B. If he gets Spurs into the Champions League I'll take it all back. I'm putting my money on the sack before UCL football.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mosschops[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Question for our happy clappers; Are you seriously happy with what has happened to our club over the summer? Do you really believe that our quality players have been replaced by better players? Can you put your hand on your hearts and say this board are doing everything that I would expect of them? Try to be honest, because even the most ardent of you must be beginning to realise that we may have a complete shambles running our club.[/p][/quote]The answer to those 3 questions is of course no. But the problem us "happy clappers" have your ultra negative view is the extreme conclusion you draw from the answers to your questions. Losing players, failing to replace them with better (or at least not guaranteed to be better - we don't as yet know) and the board perhaps making some mistakes in extremely testing conditions does not automatically equal a "shambles". You act as if you are the only one disappointed with the summer we've had just because you throw a bigger hissy fit. In life and football **** things happen, you get up, dust yourself down and cracked on to make a positive. If the board were like you they'd be sat in a corner sulking - that truly would be a shambles.[/p][/quote]I have picked myself up and dusted myself down many a time as a Saints fan, but thought last season that this could be the end of it. One board member , Cortese, has been replaced by five board members, Reed, Kruger, K. Liebherr, Gareth Rogers and David Bence. We have lost 5 great players and a fantastic manager and replaced them with pricey unknowns plus a couple of loans. We are on the verge of signing Shane Long for £12.5m These five new board members have made more errors in 6 months than the club made in the last 5 years. This isn't me sulking but reflecting on what has happened since winter. I sincerely hope it can be turned around, but the damage is too severe I think.[/p][/quote]Gaz, I think it's a bit unfair to judge the board until we see where this season takes us. The board of five replaced the single egomaniac because in business giving one person so much power is suicide. It's a learning curve definitely, but time will tell. As for losing 5 great players I agree, but we've got some quality back and some unknowns. Lovren was an unknown and he turned out alright. As a player. And finally Pochettino "fantastic". I think that's generous. He inherited a fantastic team that much is true. But we all know he had no plan B. If he gets Spurs into the Champions League I'll take it all back. I'm putting my money on the sack before UCL football. bstokesaint
  • Score: 3

8:47pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Saint Clements says...

fascia123 wrote:
Ozmosis wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Ozmosis wrote:
Tony Robertson wrote:
Folkestone Saint wrote:
Never liked him as he is a total wind-up merchant and a bit of a diver, but then maybe we were too nice last season and thats why we "only" finished 8th
Heartily agree; he is an abject disgrace to football. Winding-up players and referees alike, continually diving. Does not fit the 'Southampton way'. As for the price, ridiculous, makes SRL worth about £50 millions.
He would fit in well at Diverpiddle.

Tony Robertson, Stranraer
Don't worry - the first time he gets a red RK will be on him like a ton of bricks. I doubt he will take the risk after that!
Who are you talking about?
Shane Long. If he dives and winds players up resulting in a red card or two I'd fully expect RK to give him a right earbending, on pain of death if he did it again. Schneiderlin was good at "taking one for the team", and hence got a few yellows, but blatantly going after players rather than just fouling to stop a shot on goal is not on.
Appearances 146
Goals 28
Yellow cards 11
Red cards 0

These are his stats from one of the premiership sites, doesnt look as though his diving and discipline have been too much trouble.
Goal-to-game ratio is abysmal though, isn't it?
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ozmosis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ozmosis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tony Robertson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: Never liked him as he is a total wind-up merchant and a bit of a diver, but then maybe we were too nice last season and thats why we "only" finished 8th[/p][/quote]Heartily agree; he is an abject disgrace to football. Winding-up players and referees alike, continually diving. Does not fit the 'Southampton way'. As for the price, ridiculous, makes SRL worth about £50 millions. He would fit in well at Diverpiddle. Tony Robertson, Stranraer[/p][/quote]Don't worry - the first time he gets a red RK will be on him like a ton of bricks. I doubt he will take the risk after that![/p][/quote]Who are you talking about?[/p][/quote]Shane Long. If he dives and winds players up resulting in a red card or two I'd fully expect RK to give him a right earbending, on pain of death if he did it again. Schneiderlin was good at "taking one for the team", and hence got a few yellows, but blatantly going after players rather than just fouling to stop a shot on goal is not on.[/p][/quote]Appearances 146 Goals 28 Yellow cards 11 Red cards 0 These are his stats from one of the premiership sites, doesnt look as though his diving and discipline have been too much trouble.[/p][/quote]Goal-to-game ratio is abysmal though, isn't it? Saint Clements
  • Score: 0

8:50pm Wed 13 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems.

Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger.

Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.
Don't forget the board are working on improving our revenues.

Just received an email offering corporate customers the chance to bring a guest to the first game of the season at half price. Last season that particular package was sold out for the whole season and now they're offering a discount on the opening game!

But they've not facked right up - honest! CLAP CLAP CLAP....
Well it is only WBA, might have been different had it been Manure.
Read it again Osprey. Last season that package was sold out for the entire season.
Yes, but we have had a tiny bit of negative publicity since, and that may have concentrated minds a tad?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems. Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger. Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.[/p][/quote]Don't forget the board are working on improving our revenues. Just received an email offering corporate customers the chance to bring a guest to the first game of the season at half price. Last season that particular package was sold out for the whole season and now they're offering a discount on the opening game! But they've not facked right up - honest! CLAP CLAP CLAP....[/p][/quote]Well it is only WBA, might have been different had it been Manure.[/p][/quote]Read it again Osprey. Last season that package was sold out for the entire season.[/p][/quote]Yes, but we have had a tiny bit of negative publicity since, and that may have concentrated minds a tad? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

8:52pm Wed 13 Aug 14

thinklikealocal says...

costa gaz wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Mosschops wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Question for our happy clappers;
Are you seriously happy with what has happened to our club over the summer?
Do you really believe that our quality players have been replaced by better players?
Can you put your hand on your hearts and say this board are doing everything that I would expect of them?
Try to be honest, because even the most ardent of you must be beginning to realise that we may have a complete shambles running our club.
The answer to those 3 questions is of course no. But the problem us "happy clappers" have your ultra negative view is the extreme conclusion you draw from the answers to your questions. Losing players, failing to replace them with better (or at least not guaranteed to be better - we don't as yet know) and the board perhaps making some mistakes in extremely testing conditions does not automatically equal a "shambles". You act as if you are the only one disappointed with the summer we've had just because you throw a bigger hissy fit. In life and football **** things happen, you get up, dust yourself down and cracked on to make a positive. If the board were like you they'd be sat in a corner sulking - that truly would be a shambles.
I have picked myself up and dusted myself down many a time as a Saints fan, but thought last season that this could be the end of it.

One board member , Cortese, has been replaced by five board members, Reed, Kruger, K. Liebherr, Gareth Rogers and David Bence.

We have lost 5 great players and a fantastic manager and replaced them with pricey unknowns plus a couple of loans.

We are on the verge of signing Shane Long for £12.5m

These five new board members have made more errors in 6 months than the club made in the last 5 years. This isn't me sulking but reflecting on what has happened since winter.
I sincerely hope it can be turned around, but the damage is too severe I think.
Don't forget that apart from Les Reed, none of the new board are Football savy, it is a monster learning curve, in totally unknown territory, you would have to be a real genius to get it right straight away, and if they read some of the dross expounded on here they would have every right to think why should we bother?
Exactly my point!! at last the penny has dropped, why bring in non-football people?
This is the English Premier League... it does not give you a chance to learn the game, you have to know the ins and outs before you take on or give someone the chance, It will show NO MERCY.
This is where we have failed, and KL relied on Les Reed far too much.
Les Reed has failed wherever he has been and he will leading us to oblivion unless he is stopped.
Unfortunately the penny hasn't dropped with you has it. If this club is to have a good chance of long term success and financial stability then it has to drop the dinosaur mode of 'this is football'. What you are talking about is 'that was football'. Like it or not, football is now a commercial money orientated business. Get that bit of the business wrong and it doesn't really matter what happens on the pitch it will be irrelevant. Maybe that's sad, but it is true. LR has been with the club many years, appointed by NC.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mosschops[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Question for our happy clappers; Are you seriously happy with what has happened to our club over the summer? Do you really believe that our quality players have been replaced by better players? Can you put your hand on your hearts and say this board are doing everything that I would expect of them? Try to be honest, because even the most ardent of you must be beginning to realise that we may have a complete shambles running our club.[/p][/quote]The answer to those 3 questions is of course no. But the problem us "happy clappers" have your ultra negative view is the extreme conclusion you draw from the answers to your questions. Losing players, failing to replace them with better (or at least not guaranteed to be better - we don't as yet know) and the board perhaps making some mistakes in extremely testing conditions does not automatically equal a "shambles". You act as if you are the only one disappointed with the summer we've had just because you throw a bigger hissy fit. In life and football **** things happen, you get up, dust yourself down and cracked on to make a positive. If the board were like you they'd be sat in a corner sulking - that truly would be a shambles.[/p][/quote]I have picked myself up and dusted myself down many a time as a Saints fan, but thought last season that this could be the end of it. One board member , Cortese, has been replaced by five board members, Reed, Kruger, K. Liebherr, Gareth Rogers and David Bence. We have lost 5 great players and a fantastic manager and replaced them with pricey unknowns plus a couple of loans. We are on the verge of signing Shane Long for £12.5m These five new board members have made more errors in 6 months than the club made in the last 5 years. This isn't me sulking but reflecting on what has happened since winter. I sincerely hope it can be turned around, but the damage is too severe I think.[/p][/quote]Don't forget that apart from Les Reed, none of the new board are Football savy, it is a monster learning curve, in totally unknown territory, you would have to be a real genius to get it right straight away, and if they read some of the dross expounded on here they would have every right to think why should we bother?[/p][/quote]Exactly my point!! at last the penny has dropped, why bring in non-football people? This is the English Premier League... it does not give you a chance to learn the game, you have to know the ins and outs before you take on or give someone the chance, It will show NO MERCY. This is where we have failed, and KL relied on Les Reed far too much. Les Reed has failed wherever he has been and he will leading us to oblivion unless he is stopped.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately the penny hasn't dropped with you has it. If this club is to have a good chance of long term success and financial stability then it has to drop the dinosaur mode of 'this is football'. What you are talking about is 'that was football'. Like it or not, football is now a commercial money orientated business. Get that bit of the business wrong and it doesn't really matter what happens on the pitch it will be irrelevant. Maybe that's sad, but it is true. LR has been with the club many years, appointed by NC. thinklikealocal
  • Score: 1

8:52pm Wed 13 Aug 14

thinklikealocal says...

costa gaz wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Mosschops wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Question for our happy clappers;
Are you seriously happy with what has happened to our club over the summer?
Do you really believe that our quality players have been replaced by better players?
Can you put your hand on your hearts and say this board are doing everything that I would expect of them?
Try to be honest, because even the most ardent of you must be beginning to realise that we may have a complete shambles running our club.
The answer to those 3 questions is of course no. But the problem us "happy clappers" have your ultra negative view is the extreme conclusion you draw from the answers to your questions. Losing players, failing to replace them with better (or at least not guaranteed to be better - we don't as yet know) and the board perhaps making some mistakes in extremely testing conditions does not automatically equal a "shambles". You act as if you are the only one disappointed with the summer we've had just because you throw a bigger hissy fit. In life and football **** things happen, you get up, dust yourself down and cracked on to make a positive. If the board were like you they'd be sat in a corner sulking - that truly would be a shambles.
I have picked myself up and dusted myself down many a time as a Saints fan, but thought last season that this could be the end of it.

One board member , Cortese, has been replaced by five board members, Reed, Kruger, K. Liebherr, Gareth Rogers and David Bence.

We have lost 5 great players and a fantastic manager and replaced them with pricey unknowns plus a couple of loans.

We are on the verge of signing Shane Long for £12.5m

These five new board members have made more errors in 6 months than the club made in the last 5 years. This isn't me sulking but reflecting on what has happened since winter.
I sincerely hope it can be turned around, but the damage is too severe I think.
Don't forget that apart from Les Reed, none of the new board are Football savy, it is a monster learning curve, in totally unknown territory, you would have to be a real genius to get it right straight away, and if they read some of the dross expounded on here they would have every right to think why should we bother?
Exactly my point!! at last the penny has dropped, why bring in non-football people?
This is the English Premier League... it does not give you a chance to learn the game, you have to know the ins and outs before you take on or give someone the chance, It will show NO MERCY.
This is where we have failed, and KL relied on Les Reed far too much.
Les Reed has failed wherever he has been and he will leading us to oblivion unless he is stopped.
Unfortunately the penny hasn't dropped with you has it. If this club is to have a good chance of long term success and financial stability then it has to drop the dinosaur mode of 'this is football'. What you are talking about is 'that was football'. Like it or not, football is now a commercial money orientated business. Get that bit of the business wrong and it doesn't really matter what happens on the pitch it will be irrelevant. Maybe that's sad, but it is true. LR has been with the club many years, appointed by NC.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mosschops[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Question for our happy clappers; Are you seriously happy with what has happened to our club over the summer? Do you really believe that our quality players have been replaced by better players? Can you put your hand on your hearts and say this board are doing everything that I would expect of them? Try to be honest, because even the most ardent of you must be beginning to realise that we may have a complete shambles running our club.[/p][/quote]The answer to those 3 questions is of course no. But the problem us "happy clappers" have your ultra negative view is the extreme conclusion you draw from the answers to your questions. Losing players, failing to replace them with better (or at least not guaranteed to be better - we don't as yet know) and the board perhaps making some mistakes in extremely testing conditions does not automatically equal a "shambles". You act as if you are the only one disappointed with the summer we've had just because you throw a bigger hissy fit. In life and football **** things happen, you get up, dust yourself down and cracked on to make a positive. If the board were like you they'd be sat in a corner sulking - that truly would be a shambles.[/p][/quote]I have picked myself up and dusted myself down many a time as a Saints fan, but thought last season that this could be the end of it. One board member , Cortese, has been replaced by five board members, Reed, Kruger, K. Liebherr, Gareth Rogers and David Bence. We have lost 5 great players and a fantastic manager and replaced them with pricey unknowns plus a couple of loans. We are on the verge of signing Shane Long for £12.5m These five new board members have made more errors in 6 months than the club made in the last 5 years. This isn't me sulking but reflecting on what has happened since winter. I sincerely hope it can be turned around, but the damage is too severe I think.[/p][/quote]Don't forget that apart from Les Reed, none of the new board are Football savy, it is a monster learning curve, in totally unknown territory, you would have to be a real genius to get it right straight away, and if they read some of the dross expounded on here they would have every right to think why should we bother?[/p][/quote]Exactly my point!! at last the penny has dropped, why bring in non-football people? This is the English Premier League... it does not give you a chance to learn the game, you have to know the ins and outs before you take on or give someone the chance, It will show NO MERCY. This is where we have failed, and KL relied on Les Reed far too much. Les Reed has failed wherever he has been and he will leading us to oblivion unless he is stopped.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately the penny hasn't dropped with you has it. If this club is to have a good chance of long term success and financial stability then it has to drop the dinosaur mode of 'this is football'. What you are talking about is 'that was football'. Like it or not, football is now a commercial money orientated business. Get that bit of the business wrong and it doesn't really matter what happens on the pitch it will be irrelevant. Maybe that's sad, but it is true. LR has been with the club many years, appointed by NC. thinklikealocal
  • Score: 0

8:54pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Mosschops says...

costa gaz wrote:
Mosschops wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Question for our happy clappers;
Are you seriously happy with what has happened to our club over the summer?
Do you really believe that our quality players have been replaced by better players?
Can you put your hand on your hearts and say this board are doing everything that I would expect of them?
Try to be honest, because even the most ardent of you must be beginning to realise that we may have a complete shambles running our club.
The answer to those 3 questions is of course no. But the problem us "happy clappers" have your ultra negative view is the extreme conclusion you draw from the answers to your questions. Losing players, failing to replace them with better (or at least not guaranteed to be better - we don't as yet know) and the board perhaps making some mistakes in extremely testing conditions does not automatically equal a "shambles". You act as if you are the only one disappointed with the summer we've had just because you throw a bigger hissy fit. In life and football **** things happen, you get up, dust yourself down and cracked on to make a positive. If the board were like you they'd be sat in a corner sulking - that truly would be a shambles.
I have picked myself up and dusted myself down many a time as a Saints fan, but thought last season that this could be the end of it.

One board member , Cortese, has been replaced by five board members, Reed, Kruger, K. Liebherr, Gareth Rogers and David Bence.

We have lost 5 great players and a fantastic manager and replaced them with pricey unknowns plus a couple of loans.

We are on the verge of signing Shane Long for £12.5m

These five new board members have made more errors in 6 months than the club made in the last 5 years. This isn't me sulking but reflecting on what has happened since winter.
I sincerely hope it can be turned around, but the damage is too severe I think.
If you are so determined you are right about how disastrous it all is why do you see the need to spin to make your point. Pricey unknowns? Loans - said in a way that suggests they are a terrible thing. An irrelevant list of names as if they are from Hades. The simple way to put it, and probably more accurate, is we had a great team who attracted attention from the big boys and wanted out and the board had to get good prices (they did), replaced the manager (they did - well) and set about replacements. We now wait and see if they have done this well.
I am gutted too that we were on the brink of something special but it went wrong. Unlike you I don't simplify the problem by slating every move the board makes. If that's your way of coping with the disappointment fine but don't try and drag the rest of us in to your negative pit of despair
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mosschops[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Question for our happy clappers; Are you seriously happy with what has happened to our club over the summer? Do you really believe that our quality players have been replaced by better players? Can you put your hand on your hearts and say this board are doing everything that I would expect of them? Try to be honest, because even the most ardent of you must be beginning to realise that we may have a complete shambles running our club.[/p][/quote]The answer to those 3 questions is of course no. But the problem us "happy clappers" have your ultra negative view is the extreme conclusion you draw from the answers to your questions. Losing players, failing to replace them with better (or at least not guaranteed to be better - we don't as yet know) and the board perhaps making some mistakes in extremely testing conditions does not automatically equal a "shambles". You act as if you are the only one disappointed with the summer we've had just because you throw a bigger hissy fit. In life and football **** things happen, you get up, dust yourself down and cracked on to make a positive. If the board were like you they'd be sat in a corner sulking - that truly would be a shambles.[/p][/quote]I have picked myself up and dusted myself down many a time as a Saints fan, but thought last season that this could be the end of it. One board member , Cortese, has been replaced by five board members, Reed, Kruger, K. Liebherr, Gareth Rogers and David Bence. We have lost 5 great players and a fantastic manager and replaced them with pricey unknowns plus a couple of loans. We are on the verge of signing Shane Long for £12.5m These five new board members have made more errors in 6 months than the club made in the last 5 years. This isn't me sulking but reflecting on what has happened since winter. I sincerely hope it can be turned around, but the damage is too severe I think.[/p][/quote]If you are so determined you are right about how disastrous it all is why do you see the need to spin to make your point. Pricey unknowns? Loans - said in a way that suggests they are a terrible thing. An irrelevant list of names as if they are from Hades. The simple way to put it, and probably more accurate, is we had a great team who attracted attention from the big boys and wanted out and the board had to get good prices (they did), replaced the manager (they did - well) and set about replacements. We now wait and see if they have done this well. I am gutted too that we were on the brink of something special but it went wrong. Unlike you I don't simplify the problem by slating every move the board makes. If that's your way of coping with the disappointment fine but don't try and drag the rest of us in to your negative pit of despair Mosschops
  • Score: 0

8:58pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

thinklikealocal wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems.

Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger.

Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.
Don't forget the board are working on improving our revenues.

Just received an email offering corporate customers the chance to bring a guest to the first game of the season at half price. Last season that particular package was sold out for the whole season and now they're offering a discount on the opening game!

But they've not facked right up - honest! CLAP CLAP CLAP....
So you think these kind of revenue streams are the 'make or break' in terms of growing the clubs overall financial status and making a difference in terms of the FFP rules. Naive in the extreme and certainly no businessman. Glad you are not running the club!
Every little helps and they are obviously down on last year which is a bad sign. But then you knew that didn't you?
Every little helps? We are not talking about a Boy Scout reaching his £10 fundraising target here. Ridiculous comment. Our summer sales and careful purchasing have placed us in an excellent position to 'work around' the FFP rules in the 2015/16 season. Clue up commercially then think about it. Sadly, although you are a prolific opinion provider on this site, I doubt that will happen.
Shame you always have to be rude.

I understand that the sales enable us to spend more on wages under the FFP rules. What I don't know is how long that lasts for? Do we then have to sell the latest lot of academy products or slash wages? It sounds short term to me.

I think we need to increase overall revenue on a sustainable basis. Some of those things will be long term projects but short term could easily include excellent revenue from shirt sponsorship and selling out corporate. I'm lucky enough to get invited to corporate at other Prem grounds and we do a very bad job of it - more individual wealthy fans than proper corporate. And yes that is not the fault of this board it has been that way since SMS opened. Hopefully this board will address that.
[quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems. Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger. Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.[/p][/quote]Don't forget the board are working on improving our revenues. Just received an email offering corporate customers the chance to bring a guest to the first game of the season at half price. Last season that particular package was sold out for the whole season and now they're offering a discount on the opening game! But they've not facked right up - honest! CLAP CLAP CLAP....[/p][/quote]So you think these kind of revenue streams are the 'make or break' in terms of growing the clubs overall financial status and making a difference in terms of the FFP rules. Naive in the extreme and certainly no businessman. Glad you are not running the club![/p][/quote]Every little helps and they are obviously down on last year which is a bad sign. But then you knew that didn't you?[/p][/quote]Every little helps? We are not talking about a Boy Scout reaching his £10 fundraising target here. Ridiculous comment. Our summer sales and careful purchasing have placed us in an excellent position to 'work around' the FFP rules in the 2015/16 season. Clue up commercially then think about it. Sadly, although you are a prolific opinion provider on this site, I doubt that will happen.[/p][/quote]Shame you always have to be rude. I understand that the sales enable us to spend more on wages under the FFP rules. What I don't know is how long that lasts for? Do we then have to sell the latest lot of academy products or slash wages? It sounds short term to me. I think we need to increase overall revenue on a sustainable basis. Some of those things will be long term projects but short term could easily include excellent revenue from shirt sponsorship and selling out corporate. I'm lucky enough to get invited to corporate at other Prem grounds and we do a very bad job of it - more individual wealthy fans than proper corporate. And yes that is not the fault of this board it has been that way since SMS opened. Hopefully this board will address that. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 1

8:58pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

thinklikealocal wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems.

Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger.

Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.
Don't forget the board are working on improving our revenues.

Just received an email offering corporate customers the chance to bring a guest to the first game of the season at half price. Last season that particular package was sold out for the whole season and now they're offering a discount on the opening game!

But they've not facked right up - honest! CLAP CLAP CLAP....
So you think these kind of revenue streams are the 'make or break' in terms of growing the clubs overall financial status and making a difference in terms of the FFP rules. Naive in the extreme and certainly no businessman. Glad you are not running the club!
Every little helps and they are obviously down on last year which is a bad sign. But then you knew that didn't you?
Every little helps? We are not talking about a Boy Scout reaching his £10 fundraising target here. Ridiculous comment. Our summer sales and careful purchasing have placed us in an excellent position to 'work around' the FFP rules in the 2015/16 season. Clue up commercially then think about it. Sadly, although you are a prolific opinion provider on this site, I doubt that will happen.
Shame you always have to be rude.

I understand that the sales enable us to spend more on wages under the FFP rules. What I don't know is how long that lasts for? Do we then have to sell the latest lot of academy products or slash wages? It sounds short term to me.

I think we need to increase overall revenue on a sustainable basis. Some of those things will be long term projects but short term could easily include excellent revenue from shirt sponsorship and selling out corporate. I'm lucky enough to get invited to corporate at other Prem grounds and we do a very bad job of it - more individual wealthy fans than proper corporate. And yes that is not the fault of this board it has been that way since SMS opened. Hopefully this board will address that.
[quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Whilst the board still have the support of the deluded happy clappers, everything is fine, when they turn, and they will, the board will have major problems. Quite a few have already realised that this current board does not have a scooby about top flight football and are starting to question what is going on, obviously there will still be the HC's that will put up with whatever the board feed them, but the anger is growing stronger. Ignore the thumbsup/dowm on here, it is being manipulated by the DE.[/p][/quote]Don't forget the board are working on improving our revenues. Just received an email offering corporate customers the chance to bring a guest to the first game of the season at half price. Last season that particular package was sold out for the whole season and now they're offering a discount on the opening game! But they've not facked right up - honest! CLAP CLAP CLAP....[/p][/quote]So you think these kind of revenue streams are the 'make or break' in terms of growing the clubs overall financial status and making a difference in terms of the FFP rules. Naive in the extreme and certainly no businessman. Glad you are not running the club![/p][/quote]Every little helps and they are obviously down on last year which is a bad sign. But then you knew that didn't you?[/p][/quote]Every little helps? We are not talking about a Boy Scout reaching his £10 fundraising target here. Ridiculous comment. Our summer sales and careful purchasing have placed us in an excellent position to 'work around' the FFP rules in the 2015/16 season. Clue up commercially then think about it. Sadly, although you are a prolific opinion provider on this site, I doubt that will happen.[/p][/quote]Shame you always have to be rude. I understand that the sales enable us to spend more on wages under the FFP rules. What I don't know is how long that lasts for? Do we then have to sell the latest lot of academy products or slash wages? It sounds short term to me. I think we need to increase overall revenue on a sustainable basis. Some of those things will be long term projects but short term could easily include excellent revenue from shirt sponsorship and selling out corporate. I'm lucky enough to get invited to corporate at other Prem grounds and we do a very bad job of it - more individual wealthy fans than proper corporate. And yes that is not the fault of this board it has been that way since SMS opened. Hopefully this board will address that. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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9:00pm Wed 13 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Rising_Son wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
WobblyCat wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Good to have some more fresh blood in the squad, but definitely OVERPRICED.

I take it Les negoitiated the fee!!!
Happy for Les to sell , Lala, Luke Dejan as being overpriced to Liverhampton but £4 million over the odds on one player and we're all up in arms .........

I think this is a signing for the whole picture not just his own ability, a very good player who could well Gell Pelle and Tadic together !
Opinions again, I’d rather we bought back any of the above for what we sold them for than buy a historically average striker for 12 mill! Long went from WBA to Hull for about 6 million 6 months ago and scored 4 goals in 15 games, I fail to see why on earth his valued has doubled in that short tenure.
"Opinions again!" If you have a problem with opinions why do you bother having them? And, even more, why do bother posting them on here?
Should we be unhappy at the addition of a player like Long - IMHO the answer is no he will give a lot of speed and aggression to our front line and maybe making the room/opportunities for Pelle and/or JRod or Sam to do the business. I would be happier if we were to purchase/loan another striker as well as Long and I would have been happier if we had managed to get him a few mill squids cheaper too.

There could be another striker yet or maybe in Jan.
Need another RB and CB or two in one (Chris Smalling is avail according to the gossip.
Long wasn't on my wishlist but, when he wears a Saints shirt I hope he is a worldbeater. Not that impressed with Smalling either but, he he becomes a Saint, ...
No Smalling not high on my list of all time greats either but he does cover bot positions, is experienced and might, just might want to come if push comes to shove. Don't know of any other RB'S who would be happy to come and play second fiddle to Nat (who I rate very highly)
Really am surprised Rambo hasn't been back to take one or two of his Feyenoord defence though I think the cream of them have already gone elsewhere.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WobblyCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: Good to have some more fresh blood in the squad, but definitely OVERPRICED. I take it Les negoitiated the fee!!![/p][/quote]Happy for Les to sell , Lala, Luke Dejan as being overpriced to Liverhampton but £4 million over the odds on one player and we're all up in arms ......... I think this is a signing for the whole picture not just his own ability, a very good player who could well Gell Pelle and Tadic together ![/p][/quote]Opinions again, I’d rather we bought back any of the above for what we sold them for than buy a historically average striker for 12 mill! Long went from WBA to Hull for about 6 million 6 months ago and scored 4 goals in 15 games, I fail to see why on earth his valued has doubled in that short tenure.[/p][/quote]"Opinions again!" If you have a problem with opinions why do you bother having them? And, even more, why do bother posting them on here?[/p][/quote]Should we be unhappy at the addition of a player like Long - IMHO the answer is no he will give a lot of speed and aggression to our front line and maybe making the room/opportunities for Pelle and/or JRod or Sam to do the business. I would be happier if we were to purchase/loan another striker as well as Long and I would have been happier if we had managed to get him a few mill squids cheaper too. There could be another striker yet or maybe in Jan. Need another RB and CB or two in one (Chris Smalling is avail according to the gossip.[/p][/quote]Long wasn't on my wishlist but, when he wears a Saints shirt I hope he is a worldbeater. Not that impressed with Smalling either but, he he becomes a Saint, ...[/p][/quote]No Smalling not high on my list of all time greats either but he does cover bot positions, is experienced and might, just might want to come if push comes to shove. Don't know of any other RB'S who would be happy to come and play second fiddle to Nat (who I rate very highly) Really am surprised Rambo hasn't been back to take one or two of his Feyenoord defence though I think the cream of them have already gone elsewhere. jls217
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9:00pm Wed 13 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

costa gaz wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Mosschops wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Question for our happy clappers;
Are you seriously happy with what has happened to our club over the summer?
Do you really believe that our quality players have been replaced by better players?
Can you put your hand on your hearts and say this board are doing everything that I would expect of them?
Try to be honest, because even the most ardent of you must be beginning to realise that we may have a complete shambles running our club.
The answer to those 3 questions is of course no. But the problem us "happy clappers" have your ultra negative view is the extreme conclusion you draw from the answers to your questions. Losing players, failing to replace them with better (or at least not guaranteed to be better - we don't as yet know) and the board perhaps making some mistakes in extremely testing conditions does not automatically equal a "shambles". You act as if you are the only one disappointed with the summer we've had just because you throw a bigger hissy fit. In life and football **** things happen, you get up, dust yourself down and cracked on to make a positive. If the board were like you they'd be sat in a corner sulking - that truly would be a shambles.
I have picked myself up and dusted myself down many a time as a Saints fan, but thought last season that this could be the end of it.

One board member , Cortese, has been replaced by five board members, Reed, Kruger, K. Liebherr, Gareth Rogers and David Bence.

We have lost 5 great players and a fantastic manager and replaced them with pricey unknowns plus a couple of loans.

We are on the verge of signing Shane Long for £12.5m

These five new board members have made more errors in 6 months than the club made in the last 5 years. This isn't me sulking but reflecting on what has happened since winter.
I sincerely hope it can be turned around, but the damage is too severe I think.
Don't forget that apart from Les Reed, none of the new board are Football savy, it is a monster learning curve, in totally unknown territory, you would have to be a real genius to get it right straight away, and if they read some of the dross expounded on here they would have every right to think why should we bother?
Exactly my point!! at last the penny has dropped, why bring in non-football people?
This is the English Premier League... it does not give you a chance to learn the game, you have to know the ins and outs before you take on or give someone the chance, It will show NO MERCY.
This is where we have failed, and KL relied on Les Reed far too much.
Les Reed has failed wherever he has been and he will leading us to oblivion unless he is stopped.
OK clever clogs, who would you suggest we had brought in at the top? Glen Hoddle, Neil Warnock, Vincent Tan, Owen Oyston? The World is full of Super Football Directors, Chairmen and heads of affairs, tell me more, who should we have got in?
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mosschops[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Question for our happy clappers; Are you seriously happy with what has happened to our club over the summer? Do you really believe that our quality players have been replaced by better players? Can you put your hand on your hearts and say this board are doing everything that I would expect of them? Try to be honest, because even the most ardent of you must be beginning to realise that we may have a complete shambles running our club.[/p][/quote]The answer to those 3 questions is of course no. But the problem us "happy clappers" have your ultra negative view is the extreme conclusion you draw from the answers to your questions. Losing players, failing to replace them with better (or at least not guaranteed to be better - we don't as yet know) and the board perhaps making some mistakes in extremely testing conditions does not automatically equal a "shambles". You act as if you are the only one disappointed with the summer we've had just because you throw a bigger hissy fit. In life and football **** things happen, you get up, dust yourself down and cracked on to make a positive. If the board were like you they'd be sat in a corner sulking - that truly would be a shambles.[/p][/quote]I have picked myself up and dusted myself down many a time as a Saints fan, but thought last season that this could be the end of it. One board member , Cortese, has been replaced by five board members, Reed, Kruger, K. Liebherr, Gareth Rogers and David Bence. We have lost 5 great players and a fantastic manager and replaced them with pricey unknowns plus a couple of loans. We are on the verge of signing Shane Long for £12.5m These five new board members have made more errors in 6 months than the club made in the last 5 years. This isn't me sulking but reflecting on what has happened since winter. I sincerely hope it can be turned around, but the damage is too severe I think.[/p][/quote]Don't forget that apart from Les Reed, none of the new board are Football savy, it is a monster learning curve, in totally unknown territory, you would have to be a real genius to get it right straight away, and if they read some of the dross expounded on here they would have every right to think why should we bother?[/p][/quote]Exactly my point!! at last the penny has dropped, why bring in non-football people? This is the English Premier League... it does not give you a chance to learn the game, you have to know the ins and outs before you take on or give someone the chance, It will show NO MERCY. This is where we have failed, and KL relied on Les Reed far too much. Les Reed has failed wherever he has been and he will leading us to oblivion unless he is stopped.[/p][/quote]OK clever clogs, who would you suggest we had brought in at the top? Glen Hoddle, Neil Warnock, Vincent Tan, Owen Oyston? The World is full of Super Football Directors, Chairmen and heads of affairs, tell me more, who should we have got in? OSPREYSAINT
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9:05pm Wed 13 Aug 14

thinklikealocal says...

Mosschops wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Mosschops wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Question for our happy clappers;
Are you seriously happy with what has happened to our club over the summer?
Do you really believe that our quality players have been replaced by better players?
Can you put your hand on your hearts and say this board are doing everything that I would expect of them?
Try to be honest, because even the most ardent of you must be beginning to realise that we may have a complete shambles running our club.
The answer to those 3 questions is of course no. But the problem us "happy clappers" have your ultra negative view is the extreme conclusion you draw from the answers to your questions. Losing players, failing to replace them with better (or at least not guaranteed to be better - we don't as yet know) and the board perhaps making some mistakes in extremely testing conditions does not automatically equal a "shambles". You act as if you are the only one disappointed with the summer we've had just because you throw a bigger hissy fit. In life and football **** thing