Taider set to arrive from Inter - Osvaldo to go in opposite direction

DANI OSVALDO

DANI OSVALDO

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Algerian midfielder Saphir Taider is expected to become the latest part of Ronald Koeman’s Saints rebuilding jigsaw.

The 22-year-old is on course to move to St Mary’s on a season long loan from Inter Milan, with Dani Osvaldo moving in the opposite direction – also on loan.

Taider only signed for Inter from Bologna last summer, making 25 Serie A appearances in 2013/14 - of which 12 came off the bench.

Osvaldo will return to Italy after an unsuccessful loan spell with champions Juventus in the second half of last season.

Saints’ record signing appeared in 11 league games for Juve, starting only four of them, and scored just once.

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8:28am Fri 1 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

Well that is the best bit of business we have done this Summer ........ Getting 'Rid' for another season , Can't MoPo have him !!
Well that is the best bit of business we have done this Summer ........ Getting 'Rid' for another season , Can't MoPo have him !! Buddy SFC
  • Score: 76

8:36am Fri 1 Aug 14

FleetSaint says...

Buddy SFC wrote:
Well that is the best bit of business we have done this Summer ........ Getting 'Rid' for another season , Can't MoPo have him !!
I think he should be forced to have him :) Good call.

Funny how a couple of signings and things look much better again.
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: Well that is the best bit of business we have done this Summer ........ Getting 'Rid' for another season , Can't MoPo have him !![/p][/quote]I think he should be forced to have him :) Good call. Funny how a couple of signings and things look much better again. FleetSaint
  • Score: 60

8:42am Fri 1 Aug 14

Outside of the Box says...

Buddy SFC wrote:
Well that is the best bit of business we have done this Summer ........ Getting 'Rid' for another season , Can't MoPo have him !!
I'd drive him to White Hart Lane myself if I thought the Judas would welcome, Eric Lamela could form his welcoming committee.
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: Well that is the best bit of business we have done this Summer ........ Getting 'Rid' for another season , Can't MoPo have him !![/p][/quote]I'd drive him to White Hart Lane myself if I thought the Judas would welcome, Eric Lamela could form his welcoming committee. Outside of the Box
  • Score: 29

8:45am Fri 1 Aug 14

miltonnroad76 says...

FleetSaint wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
Well that is the best bit of business we have done this Summer ........ Getting 'Rid' for another season , Can't MoPo have him !!
I think he should be forced to have him :) Good call.

Funny how a couple of signings and things look much better again.
And if we get 3 more a cb a striker and this guy we look stronger than ever with commited players and a experienced manager who is a winner....
[quote][p][bold]FleetSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: Well that is the best bit of business we have done this Summer ........ Getting 'Rid' for another season , Can't MoPo have him !![/p][/quote]I think he should be forced to have him :) Good call. Funny how a couple of signings and things look much better again.[/p][/quote]And if we get 3 more a cb a striker and this guy we look stronger than ever with commited players and a experienced manager who is a winner.... miltonnroad76
  • Score: 56

8:53am Fri 1 Aug 14

saintsfan76 says...

The rebuild continues. And one player fans don't want back this season off on a season loan hopefully with a better level headed player replacing him. Onwards and forward for the new season.
The rebuild continues. And one player fans don't want back this season off on a season loan hopefully with a better level headed player replacing him. Onwards and forward for the new season. saintsfan76
  • Score: 23

8:53am Fri 1 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Why do we keep loaning him out he will be 30 after this one?

Taider sounds good, anyone now how much the option to buy is?
Why do we keep loaning him out he will be 30 after this one? Taider sounds good, anyone now how much the option to buy is? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 14

9:01am Fri 1 Aug 14

Chapperall says...

Good we have got rid, shame it's not permanent as I doubt they will want to buy him at the end of the season as his ego is bigger than his football skills.
Not sure about this guy on loan but is other midfielder provides cover.
Good we have got rid, shame it's not permanent as I doubt they will want to buy him at the end of the season as his ego is bigger than his football skills. Not sure about this guy on loan but is other midfielder provides cover. Chapperall
  • Score: 11

9:01am Fri 1 Aug 14

Block41row0sfc says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Why do we keep loaning him out he will be 30 after this one?

Taider sounds good, anyone now how much the option to buy is?
You really think anyone would want to buy him?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Why do we keep loaning him out he will be 30 after this one? Taider sounds good, anyone now how much the option to buy is?[/p][/quote]You really think anyone would want to buy him? Block41row0sfc
  • Score: 15

9:03am Fri 1 Aug 14

Wayne marchant says...

FleetSaint wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
Well that is the best bit of business we have done this Summer ........ Getting 'Rid' for another season , Can't MoPo have him !!
I think he should be forced to have him :) Good call.

Funny how a couple of signings and things look much better again.
oh yeah a couple of LOAN deals really makes up for taking a huge gamble on our stable mid table team. I feel like now we are stepping in the right direction.. What a flaming sheep
[quote][p][bold]FleetSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: Well that is the best bit of business we have done this Summer ........ Getting 'Rid' for another season , Can't MoPo have him !![/p][/quote]I think he should be forced to have him :) Good call. Funny how a couple of signings and things look much better again.[/p][/quote]oh yeah a couple of LOAN deals really makes up for taking a huge gamble on our stable mid table team. I feel like now we are stepping in the right direction.. What a flaming sheep Wayne marchant
  • Score: -104

9:04am Fri 1 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Check out Taider skills on youtube, are we replacing the old guard with better players because of the new managers reputation and knowledge of the marketplace?
Check out Taider skills on youtube, are we replacing the old guard with better players because of the new managers reputation and knowledge of the marketplace? fascia123
  • Score: 64

9:08am Fri 1 Aug 14

Clever Dick says...

Would rather have sold him even if only for £5mil but at least we now have a player who is actually going to be useful for us. Can't realy blame any side for not wanting to take the gamble. He's stupid enough to blow it at Inter as well
Would rather have sold him even if only for £5mil but at least we now have a player who is actually going to be useful for us. Can't realy blame any side for not wanting to take the gamble. He's stupid enough to blow it at Inter as well Clever Dick
  • Score: 21

9:11am Fri 1 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Reasons to be cheerful

MOP out RK in positive
Lieana out Tadic in positive
Lambo out Pelle in positive
Shaw out Bertrand and Tarkett positive

With youngsters coming into the squad, no more sales, we need goalkeeping cover, couple of centre backs and the world looks rosey.
Reasons to be cheerful MOP out RK in positive Lieana out Tadic in positive Lambo out Pelle in positive Shaw out Bertrand and Tarkett positive With youngsters coming into the squad, no more sales, we need goalkeeping cover, couple of centre backs and the world looks rosey. fascia123
  • Score: 44

9:13am Fri 1 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

FleetSaint wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
Well that is the best bit of business we have done this Summer ........ Getting 'Rid' for another season , Can't MoPo have him !!
I think he should be forced to have him :) Good call.

Funny how a couple of signings and things look much better again.
Don't they just ..............

Plus they are using the 'Everton' model of bringing in good young players on loan and therefore being able to manage a larger wage structure within the 'Non Fair Play Rules' therefore not shelling out all the £92 million on transfer fee's like Liverhampton ...........
[quote][p][bold]FleetSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: Well that is the best bit of business we have done this Summer ........ Getting 'Rid' for another season , Can't MoPo have him !![/p][/quote]I think he should be forced to have him :) Good call. Funny how a couple of signings and things look much better again.[/p][/quote]Don't they just .............. Plus they are using the 'Everton' model of bringing in good young players on loan and therefore being able to manage a larger wage structure within the 'Non Fair Play Rules' therefore not shelling out all the £92 million on transfer fee's like Liverhampton ........... Buddy SFC
  • Score: 38

9:16am Fri 1 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Why do we keep loaning him out he will be 30 after this one?

Taider sounds good, anyone now how much the option to buy is?
Get him loving Saints, Southampton and RonKom and like Lukaku you have more chance of signing him a year on ..................

Hopefuly the option is then £8-10 million and happy days ......... Let's hope the 'nutter' loves Inter and they Love him ........ hmmmmmm some chance !
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Why do we keep loaning him out he will be 30 after this one? Taider sounds good, anyone now how much the option to buy is?[/p][/quote]Get him loving Saints, Southampton and RonKom and like Lukaku you have more chance of signing him a year on .................. Hopefuly the option is then £8-10 million and happy days ......... Let's hope the 'nutter' loves Inter and they Love him ........ hmmmmmm some chance ! Buddy SFC
  • Score: 18

9:17am Fri 1 Aug 14

andysaints007 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Why do we keep loaning him out he will be 30 after this one?

Taider sounds good, anyone now how much the option to buy is?
Would you buy him?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Why do we keep loaning him out he will be 30 after this one? Taider sounds good, anyone now how much the option to buy is?[/p][/quote]Would you buy him? andysaints007
  • Score: 9

9:19am Fri 1 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

Wayne marchant wrote:
FleetSaint wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
Well that is the best bit of business we have done this Summer ........ Getting 'Rid' for another season , Can't MoPo have him !!
I think he should be forced to have him :) Good call.

Funny how a couple of signings and things look much better again.
oh yeah a couple of LOAN deals really makes up for taking a huge gamble on our stable mid table team. I feel like now we are stepping in the right direction.. What a flaming sheep
The gamble was a club bankrupt and up for sale !!! with no board of directors and no support from the owner ....................
[quote][p][bold]Wayne marchant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FleetSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: Well that is the best bit of business we have done this Summer ........ Getting 'Rid' for another season , Can't MoPo have him !![/p][/quote]I think he should be forced to have him :) Good call. Funny how a couple of signings and things look much better again.[/p][/quote]oh yeah a couple of LOAN deals really makes up for taking a huge gamble on our stable mid table team. I feel like now we are stepping in the right direction.. What a flaming sheep[/p][/quote]The gamble was a club bankrupt and up for sale !!! with no board of directors and no support from the owner .................... Buddy SFC
  • Score: 5

9:31am Fri 1 Aug 14

St Van Roetford says...

People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me. St Van Roetford
  • Score: 76

9:32am Fri 1 Aug 14

saintbobby says...

More chance selling some dodgy asbestos than getting someone to buy Osvaldo.

One of the links fascia123 gave me said he has done a wage deal with Inter at £1.3 million, just over £20,000 a week. Not bad for a good header and hope he can do the same to a football!

I suppose we were daft enough to pay him about the same but he is off the wage bill for another season.
More chance selling some dodgy asbestos than getting someone to buy Osvaldo. One of the links fascia123 gave me said he has done a wage deal with Inter at £1.3 million, just over £20,000 a week. Not bad for a good header and hope he can do the same to a football! I suppose we were daft enough to pay him about the same but he is off the wage bill for another season. saintbobby
  • Score: 12

9:33am Fri 1 Aug 14

jls217 says...

fascia123 wrote:
Check out Taider skills on youtube, are we replacing the old guard with better players because of the new managers reputation and knowledge of the marketplace?
Yeah I watched him a couple of days ago - he's a little tiger by the tail ain't he? Does like a ruck by the looks of him and got a cracking shot on him. Rumour was he was not interested in us though. Looks like it's all back on and if we have the option to buy - well, uncles your Bob really.
We have to hope Arsevaldo performs well enough for them to consider a permanent move for him in return for this youngster.

The times they are a'chaninging!
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: Check out Taider skills on youtube, are we replacing the old guard with better players because of the new managers reputation and knowledge of the marketplace?[/p][/quote]Yeah I watched him a couple of days ago - he's a little tiger by the tail ain't he? Does like a ruck by the looks of him and got a cracking shot on him. Rumour was he was not interested in us though. Looks like it's all back on and if we have the option to buy - well, uncles your Bob really. We have to hope Arsevaldo performs well enough for them to consider a permanent move for him in return for this youngster. The times they are a'chaninging! jls217
  • Score: 11

9:33am Fri 1 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
Very good, we've got five years.

Spot on.
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]Very good, we've got five years. Spot on. fascia123
  • Score: 18

9:35am Fri 1 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Buddy SFC wrote:
FleetSaint wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
Well that is the best bit of business we have done this Summer ........ Getting 'Rid' for another season , Can't MoPo have him !!
I think he should be forced to have him :) Good call.

Funny how a couple of signings and things look much better again.
Don't they just ..............

Plus they are using the 'Everton' model of bringing in good young players on loan and therefore being able to manage a larger wage structure within the 'Non Fair Play Rules' therefore not shelling out all the £92 million on transfer fee's like Liverhampton ...........
Great point.
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FleetSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: Well that is the best bit of business we have done this Summer ........ Getting 'Rid' for another season , Can't MoPo have him !![/p][/quote]I think he should be forced to have him :) Good call. Funny how a couple of signings and things look much better again.[/p][/quote]Don't they just .............. Plus they are using the 'Everton' model of bringing in good young players on loan and therefore being able to manage a larger wage structure within the 'Non Fair Play Rules' therefore not shelling out all the £92 million on transfer fee's like Liverhampton ...........[/p][/quote]Great point. jls217
  • Score: 15

9:38am Fri 1 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

jls217 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Check out Taider skills on youtube, are we replacing the old guard with better players because of the new managers reputation and knowledge of the marketplace?
Yeah I watched him a couple of days ago - he's a little tiger by the tail ain't he? Does like a ruck by the looks of him and got a cracking shot on him. Rumour was he was not interested in us though. Looks like it's all back on and if we have the option to buy - well, uncles your Bob really.
We have to hope Arsevaldo performs well enough for them to consider a permanent move for him in return for this youngster.

The times they are a'chaninging!
I'm glad they are, else it would of been sad eyed lady of the lowlands for me.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: Check out Taider skills on youtube, are we replacing the old guard with better players because of the new managers reputation and knowledge of the marketplace?[/p][/quote]Yeah I watched him a couple of days ago - he's a little tiger by the tail ain't he? Does like a ruck by the looks of him and got a cracking shot on him. Rumour was he was not interested in us though. Looks like it's all back on and if we have the option to buy - well, uncles your Bob really. We have to hope Arsevaldo performs well enough for them to consider a permanent move for him in return for this youngster. The times they are a'chaninging![/p][/quote]I'm glad they are, else it would of been sad eyed lady of the lowlands for me. fascia123
  • Score: 7

9:40am Fri 1 Aug 14

SaintAsh1964 says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
Low, now there was an Album, just dont smoke Sh1t when your listening to it!
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]Low, now there was an Album, just dont smoke Sh1t when your listening to it! SaintAsh1964
  • Score: 8

9:43am Fri 1 Aug 14

Norwegian Saint says...

Strong midfield now. Morgan, Victor, Jack, JWP, Reed, Tadic, Taider.
Now a couple of central defenders, goalkeeper to fight Artur and a premiership striker should do the trick.... #weregonnawintheleag
ue!!!
Strong midfield now. Morgan, Victor, Jack, JWP, Reed, Tadic, Taider. Now a couple of central defenders, goalkeeper to fight Artur and a premiership striker should do the trick.... #weregonnawintheleag ue!!! Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 24

9:44am Fri 1 Aug 14

Big Mac says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
Maybe we could get in on a loan?!
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]Maybe we could get in on a loan?! Big Mac
  • Score: 4

9:47am Fri 1 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Inter are reportedly in talks with Southampton over sending them Ezequiel Schelotto on an initial loan, as well as Saphir Taider.

As part of negotiations for Dani Osvaldo’s move in the opposite direction, the Premier League side have been seen as closing in on an initial loan deal for Algeria international Taider.

Whilst talks for the former are seen as complete and negotiations over the latter remain in the balance, the Gazzetta dello Sport indicate that the two clubs are also discussing a third loan-and-purchase-op
tion agreement for Schelotto.

The Italy-capped winger is reportedly open to the move to the Premier League side and terms are reportedly close to being agreed on an initial season long loan, with a purchase option of €5m in place.

It is believed that Taider and Schelotto’s potential moves to Southampton do not affect whether or not Osvaldo’s imminent deal can be formalised.

Just when you think it can't get any better along comes another Italian jet propelled winger under 25 and with lovely long shiny hair. Take a butchers at him on You tube - These two will give us options we only dreamed about last season. Liarllana - O yeah - I remember him, where'd he go to ...........?
What a MF - Tadic, these two, Spyder(?) Wannayamoney, Davis, Cork, JWP.
Inter are reportedly in talks with Southampton over sending them Ezequiel Schelotto on an initial loan, as well as Saphir Taider. As part of negotiations for Dani Osvaldo’s move in the opposite direction, the Premier League side have been seen as closing in on an initial loan deal for Algeria international Taider. Whilst talks for the former are seen as complete and negotiations over the latter remain in the balance, the Gazzetta dello Sport indicate that the two clubs are also discussing a third loan-and-purchase-op tion agreement for Schelotto. The Italy-capped winger is reportedly open to the move to the Premier League side and terms are reportedly close to being agreed on an initial season long loan, with a purchase option of €5m in place. It is believed that Taider and Schelotto’s potential moves to Southampton do not affect whether or not Osvaldo’s imminent deal can be formalised. Just when you think it can't get any better along comes another Italian jet propelled winger under 25 and with lovely long shiny hair. Take a butchers at him on You tube - These two will give us options we only dreamed about last season. Liarllana - O yeah - I remember him, where'd he go to ...........? What a MF - Tadic, these two, Spyder(?) Wannayamoney, Davis, Cork, JWP. jls217
  • Score: 17

9:59am Fri 1 Aug 14

Alicesdad says...

I like them, even before I met them I liked them, you hate them compared to how much I like them.
I like them, even before I met them I liked them, you hate them compared to how much I like them. Alicesdad
  • Score: 17

10:06am Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Too much good news! I don't think I can handle it and I am seriously thinking of knocking off early and going on the lash to celebrate!!
Oh hang on a minute...I'd better wait for the DE to ruin it all with some more doom and gloom before I decide.........Or is there no doom and gloom on the horizon???
COYR FOADP
Too much good news! I don't think I can handle it and I am seriously thinking of knocking off early and going on the lash to celebrate!! Oh hang on a minute...I'd better wait for the DE to ruin it all with some more doom and gloom before I decide.........Or is there no doom and gloom on the horizon??? COYR FOADP J7junctionseven
  • Score: 18

10:08am Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Fonte, Cork and Jay Rod sign new deals would be the icing on the cake!!
Then definately on one!
COYR FOADP
Fonte, Cork and Jay Rod sign new deals would be the icing on the cake!! Then definately on one! COYR FOADP J7junctionseven
  • Score: 14

10:19am Fri 1 Aug 14

Alicesdad says...

Osvaldo will see out his contract with us and we will lose what we paid for him. We would sell him if anyone would buy him but uits clear his reputation is killing any sale. The best we can do is get other teams to pay his wages - big lesson learned .. he is undoubtedly Les Reeds and MoPo's Ali Dia .. the lesson being don't believe everything you are told.

On a wider point - is it just my imagination or does everything suddenly feel much better? Maybe its just that Friday end of week feeling?

Given that we have a largely new team it will take a few games for them to play themselves in. We go to Liverpool with very little expectation but with a whole raft of players who are trying to prove themselves to a new manager .. but can you imagine how it will feel if we do them over on their own pitch for the second year running... what a message that would send out.

It's time to think positive !!
Osvaldo will see out his contract with us and we will lose what we paid for him. We would sell him if anyone would buy him but uits clear his reputation is killing any sale. The best we can do is get other teams to pay his wages - big lesson learned .. he is undoubtedly Les Reeds and MoPo's Ali Dia .. the lesson being don't believe everything you are told. On a wider point - is it just my imagination or does everything suddenly feel much better? Maybe its just that Friday end of week feeling? Given that we have a largely new team it will take a few games for them to play themselves in. We go to Liverpool with very little expectation but with a whole raft of players who are trying to prove themselves to a new manager .. but can you imagine how it will feel if we do them over on their own pitch for the second year running... what a message that would send out. It's time to think positive !! Alicesdad
  • Score: 23

10:19am Fri 1 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
Stret,
It wasn't a sad day when take that broke up, only to then reform because their solo careers bombed, Barlow got abuse for getting fat and the smug one had to join in because his records were carp!
It also wasn't a sad day when girls allowed split up, only to come back for a 'we've been together 10yrs, apart from the last 5 when we hated each other', album and tour money making exercise, to then split up again because they really didn't like each other.
And i didn't even notice that jls *spits loads (no not you mate) had split up!

Otherwise as you said, we are about to start going places! I think we are about to show the pundits and so called experts up, and Pochaliar wont even be at spuds to put a bid in for spider in in Jan!
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]Stret, It wasn't a sad day when take that broke up, only to then reform because their solo careers bombed, Barlow got abuse for getting fat and the smug one had to join in because his records were carp! It also wasn't a sad day when girls allowed split up, only to come back for a 'we've been together 10yrs, apart from the last 5 when we hated each other', album and tour money making exercise, to then split up again because they really didn't like each other. And i didn't even notice that jls *spits loads (no not you mate) had split up! Otherwise as you said, we are about to start going places! I think we are about to show the pundits and so called experts up, and Pochaliar wont even be at spuds to put a bid in for spider in in Jan! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 10

10:21am Fri 1 Aug 14

Jesus_02 says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
Or Wings... ahhh the band the Beatles could have been
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]Or Wings... ahhh the band the Beatles could have been Jesus_02
  • Score: 5

10:21am Fri 1 Aug 14

InsideOutCat says...

Wayne marchant wrote:
FleetSaint wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
Well that is the best bit of business we have done this Summer ........ Getting 'Rid' for another season , Can't MoPo have him !!
I think he should be forced to have him :) Good call.

Funny how a couple of signings and things look much better again.
oh yeah a couple of LOAN deals really makes up for taking a huge gamble on our stable mid table team. I feel like now we are stepping in the right direction.. What a flaming sheep
Don't know about you, but I judge the impact a player will make on his ability rather than what sort of contract he's on. Let's face it, if we've learned one thing this month it's that contracts don't mean the same in football as they do in the real world.
[quote][p][bold]Wayne marchant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FleetSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: Well that is the best bit of business we have done this Summer ........ Getting 'Rid' for another season , Can't MoPo have him !![/p][/quote]I think he should be forced to have him :) Good call. Funny how a couple of signings and things look much better again.[/p][/quote]oh yeah a couple of LOAN deals really makes up for taking a huge gamble on our stable mid table team. I feel like now we are stepping in the right direction.. What a flaming sheep[/p][/quote]Don't know about you, but I judge the impact a player will make on his ability rather than what sort of contract he's on. Let's face it, if we've learned one thing this month it's that contracts don't mean the same in football as they do in the real world. InsideOutCat
  • Score: 21

10:26am Fri 1 Aug 14

InsideOutCat says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
Didn't Aladdin Sane come before Ziggy Stardust?

I get your point though: curiosity for change is a powerful force, as is the reassurance of what we know. Most of us tooter along the line between the two until the wind form one direction or the other blows us over the edge.

Mind you, we WOULD have been spared cack like China Girl, I Have Not Been To Oxford Town, Little Wonder etc .........
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]Didn't Aladdin Sane come before Ziggy Stardust? I get your point though: curiosity for change is a powerful force, as is the reassurance of what we know. Most of us tooter along the line between the two until the wind form one direction or the other blows us over the edge. Mind you, we WOULD have been spared cack like China Girl, I Have Not Been To Oxford Town, Little Wonder etc ......... InsideOutCat
  • Score: 0

10:27am Fri 1 Aug 14

Saint-Mike says...

It looks like we are having probs in getting Taider to agree to come here....and I don't much like the look of Schelotto as an alternative. http://www.football-
italia.net/53298/sch
elotto-also-saints?
It looks like we are having probs in getting Taider to agree to come here....and I don't much like the look of Schelotto as an alternative. http://www.football- italia.net/53298/sch elotto-also-saints? Saint-Mike
  • Score: 0

10:29am Fri 1 Aug 14

Saints n Winners says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
Hunky Dory was actually before Ziggy - Ronson never really went away. Many people think that he actually wrote quite a few of Bowie's songs.
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]Hunky Dory was actually before Ziggy - Ronson never really went away. Many people think that he actually wrote quite a few of Bowie's songs. Saints n Winners
  • Score: 2

10:30am Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Alicesdad wrote:
Osvaldo will see out his contract with us and we will lose what we paid for him. We would sell him if anyone would buy him but uits clear his reputation is killing any sale. The best we can do is get other teams to pay his wages - big lesson learned .. he is undoubtedly Les Reeds and MoPo's Ali Dia .. the lesson being don't believe everything you are told.

On a wider point - is it just my imagination or does everything suddenly feel much better? Maybe its just that Friday end of week feeling?

Given that we have a largely new team it will take a few games for them to play themselves in. We go to Liverpool with very little expectation but with a whole raft of players who are trying to prove themselves to a new manager .. but can you imagine how it will feel if we do them over on their own pitch for the second year running... what a message that would send out.

It's time to think positive !!
It would be a very large middle finger up to all the media that and especially the the two sh1sters that have gone there.
I think the neutrals watching the game all over the world would also love it if we went there and beat them again.
Stranger things have happened and all the pressure will be on them to get a result.
Here's hoping!!
COYR FOADP
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Osvaldo will see out his contract with us and we will lose what we paid for him. We would sell him if anyone would buy him but uits clear his reputation is killing any sale. The best we can do is get other teams to pay his wages - big lesson learned .. he is undoubtedly Les Reeds and MoPo's Ali Dia .. the lesson being don't believe everything you are told. On a wider point - is it just my imagination or does everything suddenly feel much better? Maybe its just that Friday end of week feeling? Given that we have a largely new team it will take a few games for them to play themselves in. We go to Liverpool with very little expectation but with a whole raft of players who are trying to prove themselves to a new manager .. but can you imagine how it will feel if we do them over on their own pitch for the second year running... what a message that would send out. It's time to think positive !![/p][/quote]It would be a very large middle finger up to all the media that and especially the the two sh1sters that have gone there. I think the neutrals watching the game all over the world would also love it if we went there and beat them again. Stranger things have happened and all the pressure will be on them to get a result. Here's hoping!! COYR FOADP J7junctionseven
  • Score: 7

10:31am Fri 1 Aug 14

Redslo says...

saintbobby wrote:
More chance selling some dodgy asbestos than getting someone to buy Osvaldo.

One of the links fascia123 gave me said he has done a wage deal with Inter at £1.3 million, just over £20,000 a week. Not bad for a good header and hope he can do the same to a football!

I suppose we were daft enough to pay him about the same but he is off the wage bill for another season.
According to FM 2014 we are paying Osvaldo 70k a week. If inter is taking over his full salary that is a saving of 3.5 million pounds. To put it another his transfer fee is probably less than half of his total cost to us. Even if all we can do is get someone else to pay his salary we are well ahead at this point when compared with having him at the team.
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: More chance selling some dodgy asbestos than getting someone to buy Osvaldo. One of the links fascia123 gave me said he has done a wage deal with Inter at £1.3 million, just over £20,000 a week. Not bad for a good header and hope he can do the same to a football! I suppose we were daft enough to pay him about the same but he is off the wage bill for another season.[/p][/quote]According to FM 2014 we are paying Osvaldo 70k a week. If inter is taking over his full salary that is a saving of 3.5 million pounds. To put it another his transfer fee is probably less than half of his total cost to us. Even if all we can do is get someone else to pay his salary we are well ahead at this point when compared with having him at the team. Redslo
  • Score: 7

10:32am Fri 1 Aug 14

Clever Dick says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Too much good news! I don't think I can handle it and I am seriously thinking of knocking off early and going on the lash to celebrate!!
Oh hang on a minute...I'd better wait for the DE to ruin it all with some more doom and gloom before I decide.........Or is there no doom and gloom on the horizon???
COYR FOADP
Yeah all this good news is just terrible. I've gotten used to all the doom mongers spouting their non stop drivel now. So I'm off down the road to support a side where the news is always bad. On second thoughts though....... Perhaps not.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Too much good news! I don't think I can handle it and I am seriously thinking of knocking off early and going on the lash to celebrate!! Oh hang on a minute...I'd better wait for the DE to ruin it all with some more doom and gloom before I decide.........Or is there no doom and gloom on the horizon??? COYR FOADP[/p][/quote]Yeah all this good news is just terrible. I've gotten used to all the doom mongers spouting their non stop drivel now. So I'm off down the road to support a side where the news is always bad. On second thoughts though....... Perhaps not. Clever Dick
  • Score: 6

10:33am Fri 1 Aug 14

SNUGGLES 78 says...

InsideOutCat wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
Didn't Aladdin Sane come before Ziggy Stardust?

I get your point though: curiosity for change is a powerful force, as is the reassurance of what we know. Most of us tooter along the line between the two until the wind form one direction or the other blows us over the edge.

Mind you, we WOULD have been spared cack like China Girl, I Have Not Been To Oxford Town, Little Wonder etc .........
alladin sane was year after ziggy.
[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]Didn't Aladdin Sane come before Ziggy Stardust? I get your point though: curiosity for change is a powerful force, as is the reassurance of what we know. Most of us tooter along the line between the two until the wind form one direction or the other blows us over the edge. Mind you, we WOULD have been spared cack like China Girl, I Have Not Been To Oxford Town, Little Wonder etc .........[/p][/quote]alladin sane was year after ziggy. SNUGGLES 78
  • Score: 2

10:33am Fri 1 Aug 14

InsideOutCat says...

Saints n Winners wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
Hunky Dory was actually before Ziggy - Ronson never really went away. Many people think that he actually wrote quite a few of Bowie's songs.
Poor old Mick Ronson. He never really looked comfortable with the Glam thing and tottered around on those platforms looking like a docker in drag.
[quote][p][bold]Saints n Winners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]Hunky Dory was actually before Ziggy - Ronson never really went away. Many people think that he actually wrote quite a few of Bowie's songs.[/p][/quote]Poor old Mick Ronson. He never really looked comfortable with the Glam thing and tottered around on those platforms looking like a docker in drag. InsideOutCat
  • Score: 5

10:34am Fri 1 Aug 14

InsideOutCat says...

SNUGGLES 78 wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
Didn't Aladdin Sane come before Ziggy Stardust?

I get your point though: curiosity for change is a powerful force, as is the reassurance of what we know. Most of us tooter along the line between the two until the wind form one direction or the other blows us over the edge.

Mind you, we WOULD have been spared cack like China Girl, I Have Not Been To Oxford Town, Little Wonder etc .........
alladin sane was year after ziggy.
I never knew that
[quote][p][bold]SNUGGLES 78[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]Didn't Aladdin Sane come before Ziggy Stardust? I get your point though: curiosity for change is a powerful force, as is the reassurance of what we know. Most of us tooter along the line between the two until the wind form one direction or the other blows us over the edge. Mind you, we WOULD have been spared cack like China Girl, I Have Not Been To Oxford Town, Little Wonder etc .........[/p][/quote]alladin sane was year after ziggy.[/p][/quote]I never knew that InsideOutCat
  • Score: 1

10:35am Fri 1 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

fascia123 wrote:
jls217 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Check out Taider skills on youtube, are we replacing the old guard with better players because of the new managers reputation and knowledge of the marketplace?
Yeah I watched him a couple of days ago - he's a little tiger by the tail ain't he? Does like a ruck by the looks of him and got a cracking shot on him. Rumour was he was not interested in us though. Looks like it's all back on and if we have the option to buy - well, uncles your Bob really.
We have to hope Arsevaldo performs well enough for them to consider a permanent move for him in return for this youngster.

The times they are a'chaninging!
I'm glad they are, else it would of been sad eyed lady of the lowlands for me.
Now it looks like its gonna be,Ring them bells!
I am looking forward to all of this,despite all the doom and gloom,I think its going to be OK.Roll on Liverpool!
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: Check out Taider skills on youtube, are we replacing the old guard with better players because of the new managers reputation and knowledge of the marketplace?[/p][/quote]Yeah I watched him a couple of days ago - he's a little tiger by the tail ain't he? Does like a ruck by the looks of him and got a cracking shot on him. Rumour was he was not interested in us though. Looks like it's all back on and if we have the option to buy - well, uncles your Bob really. We have to hope Arsevaldo performs well enough for them to consider a permanent move for him in return for this youngster. The times they are a'chaninging![/p][/quote]I'm glad they are, else it would of been sad eyed lady of the lowlands for me.[/p][/quote]Now it looks like its gonna be,Ring them bells! I am looking forward to all of this,despite all the doom and gloom,I think its going to be OK.Roll on Liverpool! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 4

10:36am Fri 1 Aug 14

Folkestone Saint says...

I reckon we will get Forster if Celtic don't score 4 goals next week, I imagine he is staying untill they get knocked out of the pre-qualifiers
I reckon we will get Forster if Celtic don't score 4 goals next week, I imagine he is staying untill they get knocked out of the pre-qualifiers Folkestone Saint
  • Score: 7

10:37am Fri 1 Aug 14

Tino007 says...

Chapperall wrote:
Good we have got rid, shame it's not permanent as I doubt they will want to buy him at the end of the season as his ego is bigger than his football skills.
Not sure about this guy on loan but is other midfielder provides cover.
this player played in the world cup with Algeria and took germany all the way to extra time AND he'is only 22 so a lot better than the england players achieved last month, so be happy the future is bright .
[quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: Good we have got rid, shame it's not permanent as I doubt they will want to buy him at the end of the season as his ego is bigger than his football skills. Not sure about this guy on loan but is other midfielder provides cover.[/p][/quote]this player played in the world cup with Algeria and took germany all the way to extra time AND he'is only 22 so a lot better than the england players achieved last month, so be happy the future is bright . Tino007
  • Score: 9

10:40am Fri 1 Aug 14

Saints n Winners says...

InsideOutCat wrote:
Saints n Winners wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
Hunky Dory was actually before Ziggy - Ronson never really went away. Many people think that he actually wrote quite a few of Bowie's songs.
Poor old Mick Ronson. He never really looked comfortable with the Glam thing and tottered around on those platforms looking like a docker in drag.
Hugely underated guitarist. I never got to see Bowie, but I did see a tribute band at the Brook a couple of years back. The singer was so much like Bowie it was surreal I felt like I was floating around in a tin can.
[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints n Winners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]Hunky Dory was actually before Ziggy - Ronson never really went away. Many people think that he actually wrote quite a few of Bowie's songs.[/p][/quote]Poor old Mick Ronson. He never really looked comfortable with the Glam thing and tottered around on those platforms looking like a docker in drag.[/p][/quote]Hugely underated guitarist. I never got to see Bowie, but I did see a tribute band at the Brook a couple of years back. The singer was so much like Bowie it was surreal I felt like I was floating around in a tin can. Saints n Winners
  • Score: 3

10:40am Fri 1 Aug 14

St Van Roetford says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
Stret,
It wasn't a sad day when take that broke up, only to then reform because their solo careers bombed, Barlow got abuse for getting fat and the smug one had to join in because his records were carp!
It also wasn't a sad day when girls allowed split up, only to come back for a 'we've been together 10yrs, apart from the last 5 when we hated each other', album and tour money making exercise, to then split up again because they really didn't like each other.
And i didn't even notice that jls *spits loads (no not you mate) had split up!

Otherwise as you said, we are about to start going places! I think we are about to show the pundits and so called experts up, and Pochaliar wont even be at spuds to put a bid in for spider in in Jan!
Girls Aloud were AMAZING. Seriously, I'm not even kidding here. I went to see them on that farewell tour and as the final curtain went down it felt like we were saying goodbye to something very special. Funnily enough, I think the last artist to combine such experimentation and sense of sonic adventure with a polished, chart-topping package was probably Bowie.

Plus I don't half fancy that Kimberley Walsh.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]Stret, It wasn't a sad day when take that broke up, only to then reform because their solo careers bombed, Barlow got abuse for getting fat and the smug one had to join in because his records were carp! It also wasn't a sad day when girls allowed split up, only to come back for a 'we've been together 10yrs, apart from the last 5 when we hated each other', album and tour money making exercise, to then split up again because they really didn't like each other. And i didn't even notice that jls *spits loads (no not you mate) had split up! Otherwise as you said, we are about to start going places! I think we are about to show the pundits and so called experts up, and Pochaliar wont even be at spuds to put a bid in for spider in in Jan![/p][/quote]Girls Aloud were AMAZING. Seriously, I'm not even kidding here. I went to see them on that farewell tour and as the final curtain went down it felt like we were saying goodbye to something very special. Funnily enough, I think the last artist to combine such experimentation and sense of sonic adventure with a polished, chart-topping package was probably Bowie. Plus I don't half fancy that Kimberley Walsh. St Van Roetford
  • Score: 1

10:40am Fri 1 Aug 14

InsideOutCat says...

Folkestone Saint wrote:
I reckon we will get Forster if Celtic don't score 4 goals next week, I imagine he is staying untill they get knocked out of the pre-qualifiers
That seemed to be the gist of something I read a few days back. I'm afraid I can't remember whose site it was on.
[quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: I reckon we will get Forster if Celtic don't score 4 goals next week, I imagine he is staying untill they get knocked out of the pre-qualifiers[/p][/quote]That seemed to be the gist of something I read a few days back. I'm afraid I can't remember whose site it was on. InsideOutCat
  • Score: 3

10:40am Fri 1 Aug 14

Confucious says...

Great swap - especially for a young guy because it looks as though Ron is going to continue the high energy pressing game.

Must have swung this at the last minute as Mrs Wilson said yesterday they had agreed provisionally to swap Ossie for the Chairman of Roma's goldfish.
Great swap - especially for a young guy because it looks as though Ron is going to continue the high energy pressing game. Must have swung this at the last minute as Mrs Wilson said yesterday they had agreed provisionally to swap Ossie for the Chairman of Roma's goldfish. Confucious
  • Score: 9

10:42am Fri 1 Aug 14

InsideOutCat says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
Stret,
It wasn't a sad day when take that broke up, only to then reform because their solo careers bombed, Barlow got abuse for getting fat and the smug one had to join in because his records were carp!
It also wasn't a sad day when girls allowed split up, only to come back for a 'we've been together 10yrs, apart from the last 5 when we hated each other', album and tour money making exercise, to then split up again because they really didn't like each other.
And i didn't even notice that jls *spits loads (no not you mate) had split up!

Otherwise as you said, we are about to start going places! I think we are about to show the pundits and so called experts up, and Pochaliar wont even be at spuds to put a bid in for spider in in Jan!
Girls Aloud were AMAZING. Seriously, I'm not even kidding here. I went to see them on that farewell tour and as the final curtain went down it felt like we were saying goodbye to something very special. Funnily enough, I think the last artist to combine such experimentation and sense of sonic adventure with a polished, chart-topping package was probably Bowie.

Plus I don't half fancy that Kimberley Walsh.
Gary Barlow should never have gone into show business. Everyone knows that it's Ken and Peter who have the real charisma (comparatively).
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]Stret, It wasn't a sad day when take that broke up, only to then reform because their solo careers bombed, Barlow got abuse for getting fat and the smug one had to join in because his records were carp! It also wasn't a sad day when girls allowed split up, only to come back for a 'we've been together 10yrs, apart from the last 5 when we hated each other', album and tour money making exercise, to then split up again because they really didn't like each other. And i didn't even notice that jls *spits loads (no not you mate) had split up! Otherwise as you said, we are about to start going places! I think we are about to show the pundits and so called experts up, and Pochaliar wont even be at spuds to put a bid in for spider in in Jan![/p][/quote]Girls Aloud were AMAZING. Seriously, I'm not even kidding here. I went to see them on that farewell tour and as the final curtain went down it felt like we were saying goodbye to something very special. Funnily enough, I think the last artist to combine such experimentation and sense of sonic adventure with a polished, chart-topping package was probably Bowie. Plus I don't half fancy that Kimberley Walsh.[/p][/quote]Gary Barlow should never have gone into show business. Everyone knows that it's Ken and Peter who have the real charisma (comparatively). InsideOutCat
  • Score: 6

10:43am Fri 1 Aug 14

Folkestone Saint says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
Osvaldo will see out his contract with us and we will lose what we paid for him. We would sell him if anyone would buy him but uits clear his reputation is killing any sale. The best we can do is get other teams to pay his wages - big lesson learned .. he is undoubtedly Les Reeds and MoPo's Ali Dia .. the lesson being don't believe everything you are told.

On a wider point - is it just my imagination or does everything suddenly feel much better? Maybe its just that Friday end of week feeling?

Given that we have a largely new team it will take a few games for them to play themselves in. We go to Liverpool with very little expectation but with a whole raft of players who are trying to prove themselves to a new manager .. but can you imagine how it will feel if we do them over on their own pitch for the second year running... what a message that would send out.

It's time to think positive !!
It would be a very large middle finger up to all the media that and especially the the two sh1sters that have gone there.
I think the neutrals watching the game all over the world would also love it if we went there and beat them again.
Stranger things have happened and all the pressure will be on them to get a result.
Here's hoping!!
COYR FOADP
Don't forget, they haven't got rat-boy to bail them out anymore, odd that for a non-selling team
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Osvaldo will see out his contract with us and we will lose what we paid for him. We would sell him if anyone would buy him but uits clear his reputation is killing any sale. The best we can do is get other teams to pay his wages - big lesson learned .. he is undoubtedly Les Reeds and MoPo's Ali Dia .. the lesson being don't believe everything you are told. On a wider point - is it just my imagination or does everything suddenly feel much better? Maybe its just that Friday end of week feeling? Given that we have a largely new team it will take a few games for them to play themselves in. We go to Liverpool with very little expectation but with a whole raft of players who are trying to prove themselves to a new manager .. but can you imagine how it will feel if we do them over on their own pitch for the second year running... what a message that would send out. It's time to think positive !![/p][/quote]It would be a very large middle finger up to all the media that and especially the the two sh1sters that have gone there. I think the neutrals watching the game all over the world would also love it if we went there and beat them again. Stranger things have happened and all the pressure will be on them to get a result. Here's hoping!! COYR FOADP[/p][/quote]Don't forget, they haven't got rat-boy to bail them out anymore, odd that for a non-selling team Folkestone Saint
  • Score: 1

10:46am Fri 1 Aug 14

St Van Roetford says...

InsideOutCat wrote:
Saints n Winners wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
Hunky Dory was actually before Ziggy - Ronson never really went away. Many people think that he actually wrote quite a few of Bowie's songs.
Poor old Mick Ronson. He never really looked comfortable with the Glam thing and tottered around on those platforms looking like a docker in drag.
Haha - he was from Hull. He took quite a lot of convincing that make-up and sequins were the way forward, but then it was pointed out that he would be able to cop off with an awful lot of birds if he did. So he went for it and never looked back.
[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints n Winners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]Hunky Dory was actually before Ziggy - Ronson never really went away. Many people think that he actually wrote quite a few of Bowie's songs.[/p][/quote]Poor old Mick Ronson. He never really looked comfortable with the Glam thing and tottered around on those platforms looking like a docker in drag.[/p][/quote]Haha - he was from Hull. He took quite a lot of convincing that make-up and sequins were the way forward, but then it was pointed out that he would be able to cop off with an awful lot of birds if he did. So he went for it and never looked back. St Van Roetford
  • Score: 6

10:46am Fri 1 Aug 14

Graham, North of Watford says...

FleetSaint wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
Well that is the best bit of business we have done this Summer ........ Getting 'Rid' for another season , Can't MoPo have him !!
I think he should be forced to have him :) Good call.

Funny how a couple of signings and things look much better again.
No no, no.

Definitely on the up now but "much better" is generous.

Would you settle for

'gloom and doom now slowly lifting off St. Marys. Is that a few sun rays I can see??
[quote][p][bold]FleetSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: Well that is the best bit of business we have done this Summer ........ Getting 'Rid' for another season , Can't MoPo have him !![/p][/quote]I think he should be forced to have him :) Good call. Funny how a couple of signings and things look much better again.[/p][/quote]No no, no. Definitely on the up now but "much better" is generous. Would you settle for 'gloom and doom now slowly lifting off St. Marys. Is that a few sun rays I can see?? Graham, North of Watford
  • Score: 4

10:50am Fri 1 Aug 14

steekeemcglue says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Why do we keep loaning him out he will be 30 after this one?

Taider sounds good, anyone now how much the option to buy is?
we will just have to accept the £12.5M hit on him as a loss. We will not sell him......
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Why do we keep loaning him out he will be 30 after this one? Taider sounds good, anyone now how much the option to buy is?[/p][/quote]we will just have to accept the £12.5M hit on him as a loss. We will not sell him...... steekeemcglue
  • Score: 2

10:50am Fri 1 Aug 14

Tino007 says...

jls217 wrote:
Inter are reportedly in talks with Southampton over sending them Ezequiel Schelotto on an initial loan, as well as Saphir Taider.

As part of negotiations for Dani Osvaldo’s move in the opposite direction, the Premier League side have been seen as closing in on an initial loan deal for Algeria international Taider.

Whilst talks for the former are seen as complete and negotiations over the latter remain in the balance, the Gazzetta dello Sport indicate that the two clubs are also discussing a third loan-and-purchase-op

tion agreement for Schelotto.

The Italy-capped winger is reportedly open to the move to the Premier League side and terms are reportedly close to being agreed on an initial season long loan, with a purchase option of €5m in place.

It is believed that Taider and Schelotto’s potential moves to Southampton do not affect whether or not Osvaldo’s imminent deal can be formalised.

Just when you think it can't get any better along comes another Italian jet propelled winger under 25 and with lovely long shiny hair. Take a butchers at him on You tube - These two will give us options we only dreamed about last season. Liarllana - O yeah - I remember him, where'd he go to ...........?
What a MF - Tadic, these two, Spyder(?) Wannayamoney, Davis, Cork, JWP.
https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=Ph_7oKlC
Bwo
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Inter are reportedly in talks with Southampton over sending them Ezequiel Schelotto on an initial loan, as well as Saphir Taider. As part of negotiations for Dani Osvaldo’s move in the opposite direction, the Premier League side have been seen as closing in on an initial loan deal for Algeria international Taider. Whilst talks for the former are seen as complete and negotiations over the latter remain in the balance, the Gazzetta dello Sport indicate that the two clubs are also discussing a third loan-and-purchase-op tion agreement for Schelotto. The Italy-capped winger is reportedly open to the move to the Premier League side and terms are reportedly close to being agreed on an initial season long loan, with a purchase option of €5m in place. It is believed that Taider and Schelotto’s potential moves to Southampton do not affect whether or not Osvaldo’s imminent deal can be formalised. Just when you think it can't get any better along comes another Italian jet propelled winger under 25 and with lovely long shiny hair. Take a butchers at him on You tube - These two will give us options we only dreamed about last season. Liarllana - O yeah - I remember him, where'd he go to ...........? What a MF - Tadic, these two, Spyder(?) Wannayamoney, Davis, Cork, JWP.[/p][/quote]https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=Ph_7oKlC Bwo Tino007
  • Score: 2

10:51am Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Folkestone Saint wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
Osvaldo will see out his contract with us and we will lose what we paid for him. We would sell him if anyone would buy him but uits clear his reputation is killing any sale. The best we can do is get other teams to pay his wages - big lesson learned .. he is undoubtedly Les Reeds and MoPo's Ali Dia .. the lesson being don't believe everything you are told.

On a wider point - is it just my imagination or does everything suddenly feel much better? Maybe its just that Friday end of week feeling?

Given that we have a largely new team it will take a few games for them to play themselves in. We go to Liverpool with very little expectation but with a whole raft of players who are trying to prove themselves to a new manager .. but can you imagine how it will feel if we do them over on their own pitch for the second year running... what a message that would send out.

It's time to think positive !!
It would be a very large middle finger up to all the media that and especially the the two sh1sters that have gone there.
I think the neutrals watching the game all over the world would also love it if we went there and beat them again.
Stranger things have happened and all the pressure will be on them to get a result.
Here's hoping!!
COYR FOADP
Don't forget, they haven't got rat-boy to bail them out anymore, odd that for a non-selling team
True and without him how is Sturridge going to perform this season?
That is going to be interesting...hope he has a mediocre season as compared to last season now Dracula's not there!
COYR FOADP
[quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Osvaldo will see out his contract with us and we will lose what we paid for him. We would sell him if anyone would buy him but uits clear his reputation is killing any sale. The best we can do is get other teams to pay his wages - big lesson learned .. he is undoubtedly Les Reeds and MoPo's Ali Dia .. the lesson being don't believe everything you are told. On a wider point - is it just my imagination or does everything suddenly feel much better? Maybe its just that Friday end of week feeling? Given that we have a largely new team it will take a few games for them to play themselves in. We go to Liverpool with very little expectation but with a whole raft of players who are trying to prove themselves to a new manager .. but can you imagine how it will feel if we do them over on their own pitch for the second year running... what a message that would send out. It's time to think positive !![/p][/quote]It would be a very large middle finger up to all the media that and especially the the two sh1sters that have gone there. I think the neutrals watching the game all over the world would also love it if we went there and beat them again. Stranger things have happened and all the pressure will be on them to get a result. Here's hoping!! COYR FOADP[/p][/quote]Don't forget, they haven't got rat-boy to bail them out anymore, odd that for a non-selling team[/p][/quote]True and without him how is Sturridge going to perform this season? That is going to be interesting...hope he has a mediocre season as compared to last season now Dracula's not there! COYR FOADP J7junctionseven
  • Score: 6

10:52am Fri 1 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

The positive thing for me is that two of the four we've brought in so far are 'bonus' signings. If Bertrand or this guy don't work it isn't a problem and we still have all the cash in the locker to invest on safe bets.

Bertrand is particularly good because he's got Premier League experience and is a good age if we get to buy him.

Personally, I think that, while we need the odd permanent signing, a couple of loans may be a good option while we steady the ship.

I think we've been badly burnt by the likes of Barnard, Lee and Mayuka (plus a few others) sitting around on long term contracts.

With players and agents as they are, there's a lot to be said for try before you buy.

Now, with that in mind, I'd like to see us go back to Arsenal for one of the following: Costa Rica striker Campbell or their young French striker Sanogo, who looked promising in the FA Cup FInal.

Matt Lowton loan to Boro is interesting as well. Wouldn't have been disgusted if we'd brought him in.
The positive thing for me is that two of the four we've brought in so far are 'bonus' signings. If Bertrand or this guy don't work it isn't a problem and we still have all the cash in the locker to invest on safe bets. Bertrand is particularly good because he's got Premier League experience and is a good age if we get to buy him. Personally, I think that, while we need the odd permanent signing, a couple of loans may be a good option while we steady the ship. I think we've been badly burnt by the likes of Barnard, Lee and Mayuka (plus a few others) sitting around on long term contracts. With players and agents as they are, there's a lot to be said for try before you buy. Now, with that in mind, I'd like to see us go back to Arsenal for one of the following: Costa Rica striker Campbell or their young French striker Sanogo, who looked promising in the FA Cup FInal. Matt Lowton loan to Boro is interesting as well. Wouldn't have been disgusted if we'd brought him in. SaintJD
  • Score: 3

10:52am Fri 1 Aug 14

SiamSaint says...

fascia123 wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
Very good, we've got five years.

Spot on.
We could heroes.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]Very good, we've got five years. Spot on.[/p][/quote]We could heroes. SiamSaint
  • Score: 3

10:52am Fri 1 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

andysaints007 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Why do we keep loaning him out he will be 30 after this one?

Taider sounds good, anyone now how much the option to buy is?
Would you buy him?
Depends on the price I suppose. He's not suited to the Prem imo but obviously is to the Italian league. Last season with Juve and now Inter want him so there is some interest.

Les Reed wont get this but sell him at a big loss and move on. That is better than constant loan outs, periods like summer breaks where we pay his wages, and then at the end of the contract he departs for free anyway. He isn't worth what we paid but he does have value.
[quote][p][bold]andysaints007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Why do we keep loaning him out he will be 30 after this one? Taider sounds good, anyone now how much the option to buy is?[/p][/quote]Would you buy him?[/p][/quote]Depends on the price I suppose. He's not suited to the Prem imo but obviously is to the Italian league. Last season with Juve and now Inter want him so there is some interest. Les Reed wont get this but sell him at a big loss and move on. That is better than constant loan outs, periods like summer breaks where we pay his wages, and then at the end of the contract he departs for free anyway. He isn't worth what we paid but he does have value. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 4

10:52am Fri 1 Aug 14

Saints n Winners says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
Saints n Winners wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
Hunky Dory was actually before Ziggy - Ronson never really went away. Many people think that he actually wrote quite a few of Bowie's songs.
Poor old Mick Ronson. He never really looked comfortable with the Glam thing and tottered around on those platforms looking like a docker in drag.
Haha - he was from Hull. He took quite a lot of convincing that make-up and sequins were the way forward, but then it was pointed out that he would be able to cop off with an awful lot of birds if he did. So he went for it and never looked back.
But strangely he met his missus while she was cutting Bowie's hair.
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints n Winners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]Hunky Dory was actually before Ziggy - Ronson never really went away. Many people think that he actually wrote quite a few of Bowie's songs.[/p][/quote]Poor old Mick Ronson. He never really looked comfortable with the Glam thing and tottered around on those platforms looking like a docker in drag.[/p][/quote]Haha - he was from Hull. He took quite a lot of convincing that make-up and sequins were the way forward, but then it was pointed out that he would be able to cop off with an awful lot of birds if he did. So he went for it and never looked back.[/p][/quote]But strangely he met his missus while she was cutting Bowie's hair. Saints n Winners
  • Score: 2

10:53am Fri 1 Aug 14

SiamSaint says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
We could be heroes.
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]We could be heroes. SiamSaint
  • Score: 1

10:53am Fri 1 Aug 14

SiamSaint says...

fascia123 wrote:
jls217 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Check out Taider skills on youtube, are we replacing the old guard with better players because of the new managers reputation and knowledge of the marketplace?
Yeah I watched him a couple of days ago - he's a little tiger by the tail ain't he? Does like a ruck by the looks of him and got a cracking shot on him. Rumour was he was not interested in us though. Looks like it's all back on and if we have the option to buy - well, uncles your Bob really.
We have to hope Arsevaldo performs well enough for them to consider a permanent move for him in return for this youngster.

The times they are a'chaninging!
I'm glad they are, else it would of been sad eyed lady of the lowlands for me.
Stop cryin'
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: Check out Taider skills on youtube, are we replacing the old guard with better players because of the new managers reputation and knowledge of the marketplace?[/p][/quote]Yeah I watched him a couple of days ago - he's a little tiger by the tail ain't he? Does like a ruck by the looks of him and got a cracking shot on him. Rumour was he was not interested in us though. Looks like it's all back on and if we have the option to buy - well, uncles your Bob really. We have to hope Arsevaldo performs well enough for them to consider a permanent move for him in return for this youngster. The times they are a'chaninging![/p][/quote]I'm glad they are, else it would of been sad eyed lady of the lowlands for me.[/p][/quote]Stop cryin' SiamSaint
  • Score: 0

10:54am Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Tino007 wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Inter are reportedly in talks with Southampton over sending them Ezequiel Schelotto on an initial loan, as well as Saphir Taider.

As part of negotiations for Dani Osvaldo’s move in the opposite direction, the Premier League side have been seen as closing in on an initial loan deal for Algeria international Taider.

Whilst talks for the former are seen as complete and negotiations over the latter remain in the balance, the Gazzetta dello Sport indicate that the two clubs are also discussing a third loan-and-purchase-op


tion agreement for Schelotto.

The Italy-capped winger is reportedly open to the move to the Premier League side and terms are reportedly close to being agreed on an initial season long loan, with a purchase option of €5m in place.

It is believed that Taider and Schelotto’s potential moves to Southampton do not affect whether or not Osvaldo’s imminent deal can be formalised.

Just when you think it can't get any better along comes another Italian jet propelled winger under 25 and with lovely long shiny hair. Take a butchers at him on You tube - These two will give us options we only dreamed about last season. Liarllana - O yeah - I remember him, where'd he go to ...........?
What a MF - Tadic, these two, Spyder(?) Wannayamoney, Davis, Cork, JWP.
https://www.youtube.

com/watch?v=Ph_7oKlC

Bwo
He looks quite handy.
[quote][p][bold]Tino007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Inter are reportedly in talks with Southampton over sending them Ezequiel Schelotto on an initial loan, as well as Saphir Taider. As part of negotiations for Dani Osvaldo’s move in the opposite direction, the Premier League side have been seen as closing in on an initial loan deal for Algeria international Taider. Whilst talks for the former are seen as complete and negotiations over the latter remain in the balance, the Gazzetta dello Sport indicate that the two clubs are also discussing a third loan-and-purchase-op tion agreement for Schelotto. The Italy-capped winger is reportedly open to the move to the Premier League side and terms are reportedly close to being agreed on an initial season long loan, with a purchase option of €5m in place. It is believed that Taider and Schelotto’s potential moves to Southampton do not affect whether or not Osvaldo’s imminent deal can be formalised. Just when you think it can't get any better along comes another Italian jet propelled winger under 25 and with lovely long shiny hair. Take a butchers at him on You tube - These two will give us options we only dreamed about last season. Liarllana - O yeah - I remember him, where'd he go to ...........? What a MF - Tadic, these two, Spyder(?) Wannayamoney, Davis, Cork, JWP.[/p][/quote]https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=Ph_7oKlC Bwo[/p][/quote]He looks quite handy. J7junctionseven
  • Score: 1

10:56am Fri 1 Aug 14

SiamSaint says...

jls217 wrote:
Inter are reportedly in talks with Southampton over sending them Ezequiel Schelotto on an initial loan, as well as Saphir Taider.

As part of negotiations for Dani Osvaldo’s move in the opposite direction, the Premier League side have been seen as closing in on an initial loan deal for Algeria international Taider.

Whilst talks for the former are seen as complete and negotiations over the latter remain in the balance, the Gazzetta dello Sport indicate that the two clubs are also discussing a third loan-and-purchase-op

tion agreement for Schelotto.

The Italy-capped winger is reportedly open to the move to the Premier League side and terms are reportedly close to being agreed on an initial season long loan, with a purchase option of €5m in place.

It is believed that Taider and Schelotto’s potential moves to Southampton do not affect whether or not Osvaldo’s imminent deal can be formalised.

Just when you think it can't get any better along comes another Italian jet propelled winger under 25 and with lovely long shiny hair. Take a butchers at him on You tube - These two will give us options we only dreamed about last season. Liarllana - O yeah - I remember him, where'd he go to ...........?
What a MF - Tadic, these two, Spyder(?) Wannayamoney, Davis, Cork, JWP.
You're right about the barnet, but he's actually Algerian
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Inter are reportedly in talks with Southampton over sending them Ezequiel Schelotto on an initial loan, as well as Saphir Taider. As part of negotiations for Dani Osvaldo’s move in the opposite direction, the Premier League side have been seen as closing in on an initial loan deal for Algeria international Taider. Whilst talks for the former are seen as complete and negotiations over the latter remain in the balance, the Gazzetta dello Sport indicate that the two clubs are also discussing a third loan-and-purchase-op tion agreement for Schelotto. The Italy-capped winger is reportedly open to the move to the Premier League side and terms are reportedly close to being agreed on an initial season long loan, with a purchase option of €5m in place. It is believed that Taider and Schelotto’s potential moves to Southampton do not affect whether or not Osvaldo’s imminent deal can be formalised. Just when you think it can't get any better along comes another Italian jet propelled winger under 25 and with lovely long shiny hair. Take a butchers at him on You tube - These two will give us options we only dreamed about last season. Liarllana - O yeah - I remember him, where'd he go to ...........? What a MF - Tadic, these two, Spyder(?) Wannayamoney, Davis, Cork, JWP.[/p][/quote]You're right about the barnet, but he's actually Algerian SiamSaint
  • Score: 2

10:57am Fri 1 Aug 14

fritzer says...

Confucious wrote:
Great swap - especially for a young guy because it looks as though Ron is going to continue the high energy pressing game.

Must have swung this at the last minute as Mrs Wilson said yesterday they had agreed provisionally to swap Ossie for the Chairman of Roma's goldfish.
Yeh. I heard that one also Confucious, but apparently the gold fish didn't pass the regulation medical. think he had a bowl infectiion!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Great swap - especially for a young guy because it looks as though Ron is going to continue the high energy pressing game. Must have swung this at the last minute as Mrs Wilson said yesterday they had agreed provisionally to swap Ossie for the Chairman of Roma's goldfish.[/p][/quote]Yeh. I heard that one also Confucious, but apparently the gold fish didn't pass the regulation medical. think he had a bowl infectiion!!!! fritzer
  • Score: 9

10:58am Fri 1 Aug 14

SiamSaint says...

Confucious wrote:
Great swap - especially for a young guy because it looks as though Ron is going to continue the high energy pressing game.

Must have swung this at the last minute as Mrs Wilson said yesterday they had agreed provisionally to swap Ossie for the Chairman of Roma's goldfish.
Well then they caught him with his todger in the goldfish bowl... and now he sleeps with the fish....
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Great swap - especially for a young guy because it looks as though Ron is going to continue the high energy pressing game. Must have swung this at the last minute as Mrs Wilson said yesterday they had agreed provisionally to swap Ossie for the Chairman of Roma's goldfish.[/p][/quote]Well then they caught him with his todger in the goldfish bowl... and now he sleeps with the fish.... SiamSaint
  • Score: 1

10:58am Fri 1 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Folkestone Saint wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
Osvaldo will see out his contract with us and we will lose what we paid for him. We would sell him if anyone would buy him but uits clear his reputation is killing any sale. The best we can do is get other teams to pay his wages - big lesson learned .. he is undoubtedly Les Reeds and MoPo's Ali Dia .. the lesson being don't believe everything you are told.

On a wider point - is it just my imagination or does everything suddenly feel much better? Maybe its just that Friday end of week feeling?

Given that we have a largely new team it will take a few games for them to play themselves in. We go to Liverpool with very little expectation but with a whole raft of players who are trying to prove themselves to a new manager .. but can you imagine how it will feel if we do them over on their own pitch for the second year running... what a message that would send out.

It's time to think positive !!
It would be a very large middle finger up to all the media that and especially the the two sh1sters that have gone there.
I think the neutrals watching the game all over the world would also love it if we went there and beat them again.
Stranger things have happened and all the pressure will be on them to get a result.
Here's hoping!!
COYR FOADP
Don't forget, they haven't got rat-boy to bail them out anymore, odd that for a non-selling team
True and without him how is Sturridge going to perform this season?
That is going to be interesting...hope he has a mediocre season as compared to last season now Dracula's not there!
COYR FOADP
He tends to score more goals when Suarez isn't in the team unfortunately - or that's been the trend of the last season or so.

That said, Liverpool's general spending spree is bizarre to say the least and some would say stupid. Having come so close they are basically choosing to put themselves in the same position as us - bedding down eight players in one go. Personally I think that is foolish.

Newcastle, Villa, QPR and Spurs are all proof that isn't a good idea, no matter what quality you bring in.

Bar Lovren possibly, I think the only sure-fire good signing they have attempted would have been Remy. Jury is out on everyone else because, while Adam is top quality, the number of incomings mean he might not get a guaranteed long run in the team to establish himself or, at the very least, he's going to feel under immediate pressure for his place.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Osvaldo will see out his contract with us and we will lose what we paid for him. We would sell him if anyone would buy him but uits clear his reputation is killing any sale. The best we can do is get other teams to pay his wages - big lesson learned .. he is undoubtedly Les Reeds and MoPo's Ali Dia .. the lesson being don't believe everything you are told. On a wider point - is it just my imagination or does everything suddenly feel much better? Maybe its just that Friday end of week feeling? Given that we have a largely new team it will take a few games for them to play themselves in. We go to Liverpool with very little expectation but with a whole raft of players who are trying to prove themselves to a new manager .. but can you imagine how it will feel if we do them over on their own pitch for the second year running... what a message that would send out. It's time to think positive !![/p][/quote]It would be a very large middle finger up to all the media that and especially the the two sh1sters that have gone there. I think the neutrals watching the game all over the world would also love it if we went there and beat them again. Stranger things have happened and all the pressure will be on them to get a result. Here's hoping!! COYR FOADP[/p][/quote]Don't forget, they haven't got rat-boy to bail them out anymore, odd that for a non-selling team[/p][/quote]True and without him how is Sturridge going to perform this season? That is going to be interesting...hope he has a mediocre season as compared to last season now Dracula's not there! COYR FOADP[/p][/quote]He tends to score more goals when Suarez isn't in the team unfortunately - or that's been the trend of the last season or so. That said, Liverpool's general spending spree is bizarre to say the least and some would say stupid. Having come so close they are basically choosing to put themselves in the same position as us - bedding down eight players in one go. Personally I think that is foolish. Newcastle, Villa, QPR and Spurs are all proof that isn't a good idea, no matter what quality you bring in. Bar Lovren possibly, I think the only sure-fire good signing they have attempted would have been Remy. Jury is out on everyone else because, while Adam is top quality, the number of incomings mean he might not get a guaranteed long run in the team to establish himself or, at the very least, he's going to feel under immediate pressure for his place. SaintJD
  • Score: 5

11:03am Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

SaintJD wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Folkestone Saint wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
Osvaldo will see out his contract with us and we will lose what we paid for him. We would sell him if anyone would buy him but uits clear his reputation is killing any sale. The best we can do is get other teams to pay his wages - big lesson learned .. he is undoubtedly Les Reeds and MoPo's Ali Dia .. the lesson being don't believe everything you are told.

On a wider point - is it just my imagination or does everything suddenly feel much better? Maybe its just that Friday end of week feeling?

Given that we have a largely new team it will take a few games for them to play themselves in. We go to Liverpool with very little expectation but with a whole raft of players who are trying to prove themselves to a new manager .. but can you imagine how it will feel if we do them over on their own pitch for the second year running... what a message that would send out.

It's time to think positive !!
It would be a very large middle finger up to all the media that and especially the the two sh1sters that have gone there.
I think the neutrals watching the game all over the world would also love it if we went there and beat them again.
Stranger things have happened and all the pressure will be on them to get a result.
Here's hoping!!
COYR FOADP
Don't forget, they haven't got rat-boy to bail them out anymore, odd that for a non-selling team
True and without him how is Sturridge going to perform this season?
That is going to be interesting...hope he has a mediocre season as compared to last season now Dracula's not there!
COYR FOADP
He tends to score more goals when Suarez isn't in the team unfortunately - or that's been the trend of the last season or so.

That said, Liverpool's general spending spree is bizarre to say the least and some would say stupid. Having come so close they are basically choosing to put themselves in the same position as us - bedding down eight players in one go. Personally I think that is foolish.

Newcastle, Villa, QPR and Spurs are all proof that isn't a good idea, no matter what quality you bring in.

Bar Lovren possibly, I think the only sure-fire good signing they have attempted would have been Remy. Jury is out on everyone else because, while Adam is top quality, the number of incomings mean he might not get a guaranteed long run in the team to establish himself or, at the very least, he's going to feel under immediate pressure for his place.
Couple that with his renowned injury history he could spend even more time on the treatment table given the additional amount of games they will be playing in all competitions.
Sweet.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Osvaldo will see out his contract with us and we will lose what we paid for him. We would sell him if anyone would buy him but uits clear his reputation is killing any sale. The best we can do is get other teams to pay his wages - big lesson learned .. he is undoubtedly Les Reeds and MoPo's Ali Dia .. the lesson being don't believe everything you are told. On a wider point - is it just my imagination or does everything suddenly feel much better? Maybe its just that Friday end of week feeling? Given that we have a largely new team it will take a few games for them to play themselves in. We go to Liverpool with very little expectation but with a whole raft of players who are trying to prove themselves to a new manager .. but can you imagine how it will feel if we do them over on their own pitch for the second year running... what a message that would send out. It's time to think positive !![/p][/quote]It would be a very large middle finger up to all the media that and especially the the two sh1sters that have gone there. I think the neutrals watching the game all over the world would also love it if we went there and beat them again. Stranger things have happened and all the pressure will be on them to get a result. Here's hoping!! COYR FOADP[/p][/quote]Don't forget, they haven't got rat-boy to bail them out anymore, odd that for a non-selling team[/p][/quote]True and without him how is Sturridge going to perform this season? That is going to be interesting...hope he has a mediocre season as compared to last season now Dracula's not there! COYR FOADP[/p][/quote]He tends to score more goals when Suarez isn't in the team unfortunately - or that's been the trend of the last season or so. That said, Liverpool's general spending spree is bizarre to say the least and some would say stupid. Having come so close they are basically choosing to put themselves in the same position as us - bedding down eight players in one go. Personally I think that is foolish. Newcastle, Villa, QPR and Spurs are all proof that isn't a good idea, no matter what quality you bring in. Bar Lovren possibly, I think the only sure-fire good signing they have attempted would have been Remy. Jury is out on everyone else because, while Adam is top quality, the number of incomings mean he might not get a guaranteed long run in the team to establish himself or, at the very least, he's going to feel under immediate pressure for his place.[/p][/quote]Couple that with his renowned injury history he could spend even more time on the treatment table given the additional amount of games they will be playing in all competitions. Sweet. J7junctionseven
  • Score: 4

11:06am Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

SiamSaint wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Inter are reportedly in talks with Southampton over sending them Ezequiel Schelotto on an initial loan, as well as Saphir Taider.

As part of negotiations for Dani Osvaldo’s move in the opposite direction, the Premier League side have been seen as closing in on an initial loan deal for Algeria international Taider.

Whilst talks for the former are seen as complete and negotiations over the latter remain in the balance, the Gazzetta dello Sport indicate that the two clubs are also discussing a third loan-and-purchase-op


tion agreement for Schelotto.

The Italy-capped winger is reportedly open to the move to the Premier League side and terms are reportedly close to being agreed on an initial season long loan, with a purchase option of €5m in place.

It is believed that Taider and Schelotto’s potential moves to Southampton do not affect whether or not Osvaldo’s imminent deal can be formalised.

Just when you think it can't get any better along comes another Italian jet propelled winger under 25 and with lovely long shiny hair. Take a butchers at him on You tube - These two will give us options we only dreamed about last season. Liarllana - O yeah - I remember him, where'd he go to ...........?
What a MF - Tadic, these two, Spyder(?) Wannayamoney, Davis, Cork, JWP.
You're right about the barnet, but he's actually Algerian
I think he's referring to the other one Schelotto
[quote][p][bold]SiamSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Inter are reportedly in talks with Southampton over sending them Ezequiel Schelotto on an initial loan, as well as Saphir Taider. As part of negotiations for Dani Osvaldo’s move in the opposite direction, the Premier League side have been seen as closing in on an initial loan deal for Algeria international Taider. Whilst talks for the former are seen as complete and negotiations over the latter remain in the balance, the Gazzetta dello Sport indicate that the two clubs are also discussing a third loan-and-purchase-op tion agreement for Schelotto. The Italy-capped winger is reportedly open to the move to the Premier League side and terms are reportedly close to being agreed on an initial season long loan, with a purchase option of €5m in place. It is believed that Taider and Schelotto’s potential moves to Southampton do not affect whether or not Osvaldo’s imminent deal can be formalised. Just when you think it can't get any better along comes another Italian jet propelled winger under 25 and with lovely long shiny hair. Take a butchers at him on You tube - These two will give us options we only dreamed about last season. Liarllana - O yeah - I remember him, where'd he go to ...........? What a MF - Tadic, these two, Spyder(?) Wannayamoney, Davis, Cork, JWP.[/p][/quote]You're right about the barnet, but he's actually Algerian[/p][/quote]I think he's referring to the other one Schelotto J7junctionseven
  • Score: 2

11:06am Fri 1 Aug 14

St Van Roetford says...

Oh, on a football note: along with Chile, Algeria were my favourite team of the world cup. If we can play anything like them next season I shall be a very happy camper.

(Their goallie was also incredible. Can we have him too, please?)
Oh, on a football note: along with Chile, Algeria were my favourite team of the world cup. If we can play anything like them next season I shall be a very happy camper. (Their goallie was also incredible. Can we have him too, please?) St Van Roetford
  • Score: 5

11:06am Fri 1 Aug 14

IOAD says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
Just think if Rod Stuart had stuck with the Faces... oh.
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]Just think if Rod Stuart had stuck with the Faces... oh. IOAD
  • Score: 2

11:10am Fri 1 Aug 14

Sammy2sheds says...

"We will spend every penny of the money generated by player sales"
Just not on players by looks of it.
"We will spend every penny of the money generated by player sales" Just not on players by looks of it. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: -6

11:13am Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

There's one! Ha ha ha ha ha
There's one! Ha ha ha ha ha J7junctionseven
  • Score: 1

11:14am Fri 1 Aug 14

Chapperall says...

Nice to see everyone being more poitive today. That's good ad it's not been a great time for us Saints supporters. I couldn't make the Brighton game, if anyone wrnt how did the team look particularly the defence?
Nice to see everyone being more poitive today. That's good ad it's not been a great time for us Saints supporters. I couldn't make the Brighton game, if anyone wrnt how did the team look particularly the defence? Chapperall
  • Score: 4

11:17am Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Can everyone please refrain from reacting to the idiot that lives in a couple of out houses. If he doesn't get any attention he'll be gone.
Can everyone please refrain from reacting to the idiot that lives in a couple of out houses. If he doesn't get any attention he'll be gone. J7junctionseven
  • Score: 12

11:18am Fri 1 Aug 14

Malcombe says...

I have just read on Metro something if true could be quite sinister and illegal and that is Arsen Wenger spoke to Morgan when In Brazil, I cannot believe it would only be about the weather and what a lovely Beach.
I thought it was against FA Rules that no Player can be approached with a view to a transfer without sanctioning from both Clubs and surely Wenger knows this if he doesn't nobody does, Metro also indicated Morgan will go to Arsenal, this is very disturbing if it's true, Morgan could of possibly been poached illegally and persuaded to join Arsenal by the back door with big offers, perhaps Wenger believes he's a rule to himself after being in the job since the early 90s, if there is any truth in this Wenger must be punished in whatever the FA can throw at him, can any posters add to this or is it another nasty rumour by a bored Journalist?
I have just read on Metro something if true could be quite sinister and illegal and that is Arsen Wenger spoke to Morgan when In Brazil, I cannot believe it would only be about the weather and what a lovely Beach. I thought it was against FA Rules that no Player can be approached with a view to a transfer without sanctioning from both Clubs and surely Wenger knows this if he doesn't nobody does, Metro also indicated Morgan will go to Arsenal, this is very disturbing if it's true, Morgan could of possibly been poached illegally and persuaded to join Arsenal by the back door with big offers, perhaps Wenger believes he's a rule to himself after being in the job since the early 90s, if there is any truth in this Wenger must be punished in whatever the FA can throw at him, can any posters add to this or is it another nasty rumour by a bored Journalist? Malcombe
  • Score: 1

11:19am Fri 1 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
Stret,
It wasn't a sad day when take that broke up, only to then reform because their solo careers bombed, Barlow got abuse for getting fat and the smug one had to join in because his records were carp!
It also wasn't a sad day when girls allowed split up, only to come back for a 'we've been together 10yrs, apart from the last 5 when we hated each other', album and tour money making exercise, to then split up again because they really didn't like each other.
And i didn't even notice that jls *spits loads (no not you mate) had split up!

Otherwise as you said, we are about to start going places! I think we are about to show the pundits and so called experts up, and Pochaliar wont even be at spuds to put a bid in for spider in in Jan!
Girls Aloud were AMAZING. Seriously, I'm not even kidding here. I went to see them on that farewell tour and as the final curtain went down it felt like we were saying goodbye to something very special. Funnily enough, I think the last artist to combine such experimentation and sense of sonic adventure with a polished, chart-topping package was probably Bowie.

Plus I don't half fancy that Kimberley Walsh.
I picked girls allowed for a reason stret ;0)
couldn't stand the music, must be my slightly older and rock based ears, but they were sure fine to look at, well 4 of them anyway!
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]Stret, It wasn't a sad day when take that broke up, only to then reform because their solo careers bombed, Barlow got abuse for getting fat and the smug one had to join in because his records were carp! It also wasn't a sad day when girls allowed split up, only to come back for a 'we've been together 10yrs, apart from the last 5 when we hated each other', album and tour money making exercise, to then split up again because they really didn't like each other. And i didn't even notice that jls *spits loads (no not you mate) had split up! Otherwise as you said, we are about to start going places! I think we are about to show the pundits and so called experts up, and Pochaliar wont even be at spuds to put a bid in for spider in in Jan![/p][/quote]Girls Aloud were AMAZING. Seriously, I'm not even kidding here. I went to see them on that farewell tour and as the final curtain went down it felt like we were saying goodbye to something very special. Funnily enough, I think the last artist to combine such experimentation and sense of sonic adventure with a polished, chart-topping package was probably Bowie. Plus I don't half fancy that Kimberley Walsh.[/p][/quote]I picked girls allowed for a reason stret ;0) couldn't stand the music, must be my slightly older and rock based ears, but they were sure fine to look at, well 4 of them anyway! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: -1

11:20am Fri 1 Aug 14

Saints n Winners says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
"We will spend every penny of the money generated by player sales"
Just not on players by looks of it.
You never answered my question the other day.

If you consider that the Fratton End is a proper stand - then the other stands are all sheds. Surely three sheds would be more apt name?
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: "We will spend every penny of the money generated by player sales" Just not on players by looks of it.[/p][/quote]You never answered my question the other day. If you consider that the Fratton End is a proper stand - then the other stands are all sheds. Surely three sheds would be more apt name? Saints n Winners
  • Score: 1

11:21am Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Malcombe wrote:
I have just read on Metro something if true could be quite sinister and illegal and that is Arsen Wenger spoke to Morgan when In Brazil, I cannot believe it would only be about the weather and what a lovely Beach.
I thought it was against FA Rules that no Player can be approached with a view to a transfer without sanctioning from both Clubs and surely Wenger knows this if he doesn't nobody does, Metro also indicated Morgan will go to Arsenal, this is very disturbing if it's true, Morgan could of possibly been poached illegally and persuaded to join Arsenal by the back door with big offers, perhaps Wenger believes he's a rule to himself after being in the job since the early 90s, if there is any truth in this Wenger must be punished in whatever the FA can throw at him, can any posters add to this or is it another nasty rumour by a bored Journalist?
It wouldn't surprise me if the same had happened with the other traitors that have gone. Agents also do the same thing.
[quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: I have just read on Metro something if true could be quite sinister and illegal and that is Arsen Wenger spoke to Morgan when In Brazil, I cannot believe it would only be about the weather and what a lovely Beach. I thought it was against FA Rules that no Player can be approached with a view to a transfer without sanctioning from both Clubs and surely Wenger knows this if he doesn't nobody does, Metro also indicated Morgan will go to Arsenal, this is very disturbing if it's true, Morgan could of possibly been poached illegally and persuaded to join Arsenal by the back door with big offers, perhaps Wenger believes he's a rule to himself after being in the job since the early 90s, if there is any truth in this Wenger must be punished in whatever the FA can throw at him, can any posters add to this or is it another nasty rumour by a bored Journalist?[/p][/quote]It wouldn't surprise me if the same had happened with the other traitors that have gone. Agents also do the same thing. J7junctionseven
  • Score: 2

11:22am Fri 1 Aug 14

right back in the bar says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
jamming good with weird and gilly
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]jamming good with weird and gilly right back in the bar
  • Score: -1

11:23am Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Saints n Winners wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
"We will spend every penny of the money generated by player sales"
Just not on players by looks of it.
You never answered my question the other day.

If you consider that the Fratton End is a proper stand - then the other stands are all sheds. Surely three sheds would be more apt name?
Ignore the skunt and he'll disappear
[quote][p][bold]Saints n Winners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: "We will spend every penny of the money generated by player sales" Just not on players by looks of it.[/p][/quote]You never answered my question the other day. If you consider that the Fratton End is a proper stand - then the other stands are all sheds. Surely three sheds would be more apt name?[/p][/quote]Ignore the skunt and he'll disappear J7junctionseven
  • Score: 5

11:25am Fri 1 Aug 14

right back in the bar says...

jls217 wrote:
Inter are reportedly in talks with Southampton over sending them Ezequiel Schelotto on an initial loan, as well as Saphir Taider.

As part of negotiations for Dani Osvaldo’s move in the opposite direction, the Premier League side have been seen as closing in on an initial loan deal for Algeria international Taider.

Whilst talks for the former are seen as complete and negotiations over the latter remain in the balance, the Gazzetta dello Sport indicate that the two clubs are also discussing a third loan-and-purchase-op

tion agreement for Schelotto.

The Italy-capped winger is reportedly open to the move to the Premier League side and terms are reportedly close to being agreed on an initial season long loan, with a purchase option of €5m in place.

It is believed that Taider and Schelotto’s potential moves to Southampton do not affect whether or not Osvaldo’s imminent deal can be formalised.

Just when you think it can't get any better along comes another Italian jet propelled winger under 25 and with lovely long shiny hair. Take a butchers at him on You tube - These two will give us options we only dreamed about last season. Liarllana - O yeah - I remember him, where'd he go to ...........?
What a MF - Tadic, these two, Spyder(?) Wannayamoney, Davis, Cork, JWP.
That lovely long shiny hair madam is designed to make him go faster (I take it your female and not batting for the other side)
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Inter are reportedly in talks with Southampton over sending them Ezequiel Schelotto on an initial loan, as well as Saphir Taider. As part of negotiations for Dani Osvaldo’s move in the opposite direction, the Premier League side have been seen as closing in on an initial loan deal for Algeria international Taider. Whilst talks for the former are seen as complete and negotiations over the latter remain in the balance, the Gazzetta dello Sport indicate that the two clubs are also discussing a third loan-and-purchase-op tion agreement for Schelotto. The Italy-capped winger is reportedly open to the move to the Premier League side and terms are reportedly close to being agreed on an initial season long loan, with a purchase option of €5m in place. It is believed that Taider and Schelotto’s potential moves to Southampton do not affect whether or not Osvaldo’s imminent deal can be formalised. Just when you think it can't get any better along comes another Italian jet propelled winger under 25 and with lovely long shiny hair. Take a butchers at him on You tube - These two will give us options we only dreamed about last season. Liarllana - O yeah - I remember him, where'd he go to ...........? What a MF - Tadic, these two, Spyder(?) Wannayamoney, Davis, Cork, JWP.[/p][/quote]That lovely long shiny hair madam is designed to make him go faster (I take it your female and not batting for the other side) right back in the bar
  • Score: 0

11:26am Fri 1 Aug 14

warrens 76 says...

Last season several of the players felt they (or their friends, family, Agents and scouse whisperer Gerrard) convinced themselves that they had come as far as they could with SFC and their huge ambitions (sic) could not be met here…

Whether MoPo or NC (unlikelyas he wanted to buy us) unsettled them or they unsettled him we will never know, every autobiography would tell a different story, so we will never know..

What I would say 'provided' the board really do back statements with words ie spend most of the income from sales, is that in many respects we had come as far as the dear departed could take us…

..never has so much possession resulted in so many lost points…

..actually that itself was the hallmark of Espanyol under Mo Po.

..Furthermore most of the succesful players in that team are from Pardew and Nigel's respective reigns.

If the board 'are' being truthful or as appears more likely 'finally ' getting a grip (I am coming around to the lack of football nous more than an asset strip) then with Koeman whose country started the entire tica tac pressing style adopted by Cruyff and Barca 35 years ago we will prosper, MoPo was a student of this the now Southampton way…Koeman was bought up in it.
Last season several of the players felt they (or their friends, family, Agents and scouse whisperer Gerrard) convinced themselves that they had come as far as they could with SFC and their huge ambitions (sic) could not be met here… Whether MoPo or NC (unlikelyas he wanted to buy us) unsettled them or they unsettled him we will never know, every autobiography would tell a different story, so we will never know.. What I would say 'provided' the board really do back statements with words ie spend most of the income from sales, is that in many respects we had come as far as the dear departed could take us… ..never has so much possession resulted in so many lost points… ..actually that itself was the hallmark of Espanyol under Mo Po. ..Furthermore most of the succesful players in that team are from Pardew and Nigel's respective reigns. If the board 'are' being truthful or as appears more likely 'finally ' getting a grip (I am coming around to the lack of football nous more than an asset strip) then with Koeman whose country started the entire tica tac pressing style adopted by Cruyff and Barca 35 years ago we will prosper, MoPo was a student of this the now Southampton way…Koeman was bought up in it. warrens 76
  • Score: 12

11:29am Fri 1 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

jls217 wrote:
Inter are reportedly in talks with Southampton over sending them Ezequiel Schelotto on an initial loan, as well as Saphir Taider.

As part of negotiations for Dani Osvaldo’s move in the opposite direction, the Premier League side have been seen as closing in on an initial loan deal for Algeria international Taider.

Whilst talks for the former are seen as complete and negotiations over the latter remain in the balance, the Gazzetta dello Sport indicate that the two clubs are also discussing a third loan-and-purchase-op

tion agreement for Schelotto.

The Italy-capped winger is reportedly open to the move to the Premier League side and terms are reportedly close to being agreed on an initial season long loan, with a purchase option of €5m in place.

It is believed that Taider and Schelotto’s potential moves to Southampton do not affect whether or not Osvaldo’s imminent deal can be formalised.

Just when you think it can't get any better along comes another Italian jet propelled winger under 25 and with lovely long shiny hair. Take a butchers at him on You tube - These two will give us options we only dreamed about last season. Liarllana - O yeah - I remember him, where'd he go to ...........?
What a MF - Tadic, these two, Spyder(?) Wannayamoney, Davis, Cork, JWP.
'Just when you thought it couldn't get any better' - not a sentence I was expecting to see on this forum this week.

It's a bit of a punt I guess - just hope they know the reasons why these two are surplus to requirements and that they take personality and attitude into account when agreeing a deal - we don't want to jump out of the frying pan into the fire and have people around the place if they aren't 100% on it.

Hopefully both are. We've not had much luck with players the Italians actually rate and they seem to love players we think are liabilities (Os/Balotelli), so you never know, we could uncover a gem or two.

Let's not ever sign or loan anyone just to make up the numbers though.

Shame we can't arrange short trials for these type of deals - just to see if they fit in. Wouldn't like to do even loan deals totally 'blind'.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Inter are reportedly in talks with Southampton over sending them Ezequiel Schelotto on an initial loan, as well as Saphir Taider. As part of negotiations for Dani Osvaldo’s move in the opposite direction, the Premier League side have been seen as closing in on an initial loan deal for Algeria international Taider. Whilst talks for the former are seen as complete and negotiations over the latter remain in the balance, the Gazzetta dello Sport indicate that the two clubs are also discussing a third loan-and-purchase-op tion agreement for Schelotto. The Italy-capped winger is reportedly open to the move to the Premier League side and terms are reportedly close to being agreed on an initial season long loan, with a purchase option of €5m in place. It is believed that Taider and Schelotto’s potential moves to Southampton do not affect whether or not Osvaldo’s imminent deal can be formalised. Just when you think it can't get any better along comes another Italian jet propelled winger under 25 and with lovely long shiny hair. Take a butchers at him on You tube - These two will give us options we only dreamed about last season. Liarllana - O yeah - I remember him, where'd he go to ...........? What a MF - Tadic, these two, Spyder(?) Wannayamoney, Davis, Cork, JWP.[/p][/quote]'Just when you thought it couldn't get any better' - not a sentence I was expecting to see on this forum this week. It's a bit of a punt I guess - just hope they know the reasons why these two are surplus to requirements and that they take personality and attitude into account when agreeing a deal - we don't want to jump out of the frying pan into the fire and have people around the place if they aren't 100% on it. Hopefully both are. We've not had much luck with players the Italians actually rate and they seem to love players we think are liabilities (Os/Balotelli), so you never know, we could uncover a gem or two. Let's not ever sign or loan anyone just to make up the numbers though. Shame we can't arrange short trials for these type of deals - just to see if they fit in. Wouldn't like to do even loan deals totally 'blind'. SaintJD
  • Score: 1

11:29am Fri 1 Aug 14

Glenn Cockerill says...

I do like the look of Taider. Very tidy and neat but also likes a tackle = Perfect combo! However, (And i'm not being "neggie") but why are we now turning to loans and not spending just some of the funds we now have and have been promised that Ronnie can spend? I don't get it. This lad is quailty, buy him! The left back lad from Chelsea, very good player, buy him!
I'm sure it isnt that simple but i worry and saints and loans dont offer me confidence. Did saggy face twitch man try loans at Saints and look what happened then! Anyways, in Ron Dom Koeman i trust! He'll do us rigghhht!
I do like the look of Taider. Very tidy and neat but also likes a tackle = Perfect combo! However, (And i'm not being "neggie") but why are we now turning to loans and not spending just some of the funds we now have and have been promised that Ronnie can spend? I don't get it. This lad is quailty, buy him! The left back lad from Chelsea, very good player, buy him! I'm sure it isnt that simple but i worry and saints and loans dont offer me confidence. Did saggy face twitch man try loans at Saints and look what happened then! Anyways, in Ron Dom Koeman i trust! He'll do us rigghhht! Glenn Cockerill
  • Score: 8

11:35am Fri 1 Aug 14

st.ranger says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
I rate Bowie about as much as Pockethemonio, supposedly good but never really delivered anything that wasn't just self indulgent rubbish.

I think we lost the glue and control of the ambition when NC went, so the players started getting a bit bigheaded especially those who associated with the perenial bigheads in the national team. They are not bad lads, just lost their grounding a bit, which does pi$$ of the very grounded supporters.

Perhaps we were too successful too fast, but the second half of the season did not have the energy and attitude of the first so we slipped back to (just) 8th when it could easily have been 5th or 6th with s few clinical finishes against patently worse opponents who often took a point and sometimes 3 away st.marys.
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]I rate Bowie about as much as Pockethemonio, supposedly good but never really delivered anything that wasn't just self indulgent rubbish. I think we lost the glue and control of the ambition when NC went, so the players started getting a bit bigheaded especially those who associated with the perenial bigheads in the national team. They are not bad lads, just lost their grounding a bit, which does pi$$ of the very grounded supporters. Perhaps we were too successful too fast, but the second half of the season did not have the energy and attitude of the first so we slipped back to (just) 8th when it could easily have been 5th or 6th with s few clinical finishes against patently worse opponents who often took a point and sometimes 3 away st.marys. st.ranger
  • Score: 5

11:35am Fri 1 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Last season several of the players felt they (or their friends, family, Agents and scouse whisperer Gerrard) convinced themselves that they had come as far as they could with SFC and their huge ambitions (sic) could not be met here…

Whether MoPo or NC (unlikelyas he wanted to buy us) unsettled them or they unsettled him we will never know, every autobiography would tell a different story, so we will never know..

What I would say 'provided' the board really do back statements with words ie spend most of the income from sales, is that in many respects we had come as far as the dear departed could take us…

..never has so much possession resulted in so many lost points…

..actually that itself was the hallmark of Espanyol under Mo Po.

..Furthermore most of the succesful players in that team are from Pardew and Nigel's respective reigns.

If the board 'are' being truthful or as appears more likely 'finally ' getting a grip (I am coming around to the lack of football nous more than an asset strip) then with Koeman whose country started the entire tica tac pressing style adopted by Cruyff and Barca 35 years ago we will prosper, MoPo was a student of this the now Southampton way…Koeman was bought up in it.
As much as I'm a tiny bit bitter about Poch and am looking forward, I'm not going to blind myself by saying he isn't very good. I don't believe that.

I loved his style and I think he'll do well at Spurs unfortunately and I'm not going to suddenly say he was poor when I know I'd love not to have lost him.

The Saints/Espanyol stats might be true but they are misleading. In actual fact, if you read them a little differently they will show that both teams were actually genuinely competing for wins against clubs with far greater financial clout and just falling short.

He's untried in a situation where he has higher resources, so I think you have to judge him after a full season of Spurs (assuming he actually gets that).
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Last season several of the players felt they (or their friends, family, Agents and scouse whisperer Gerrard) convinced themselves that they had come as far as they could with SFC and their huge ambitions (sic) could not be met here… Whether MoPo or NC (unlikelyas he wanted to buy us) unsettled them or they unsettled him we will never know, every autobiography would tell a different story, so we will never know.. What I would say 'provided' the board really do back statements with words ie spend most of the income from sales, is that in many respects we had come as far as the dear departed could take us… ..never has so much possession resulted in so many lost points… ..actually that itself was the hallmark of Espanyol under Mo Po. ..Furthermore most of the succesful players in that team are from Pardew and Nigel's respective reigns. If the board 'are' being truthful or as appears more likely 'finally ' getting a grip (I am coming around to the lack of football nous more than an asset strip) then with Koeman whose country started the entire tica tac pressing style adopted by Cruyff and Barca 35 years ago we will prosper, MoPo was a student of this the now Southampton way…Koeman was bought up in it.[/p][/quote]As much as I'm a tiny bit bitter about Poch and am looking forward, I'm not going to blind myself by saying he isn't very good. I don't believe that. I loved his style and I think he'll do well at Spurs unfortunately and I'm not going to suddenly say he was poor when I know I'd love not to have lost him. The Saints/Espanyol stats might be true but they are misleading. In actual fact, if you read them a little differently they will show that both teams were actually genuinely competing for wins against clubs with far greater financial clout and just falling short. He's untried in a situation where he has higher resources, so I think you have to judge him after a full season of Spurs (assuming he actually gets that). SaintJD
  • Score: 3

11:36am Fri 1 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Try before you buy mate.

Just as a matter of interest take a look at the post above yours. Saint JD doesn't even like these long load with an option to buy deals.

Proof of the old saying you can't please everybody.
Try before you buy mate. Just as a matter of interest take a look at the post above yours. Saint JD doesn't even like these long load with an option to buy deals. Proof of the old saying you can't please everybody. jls217
  • Score: 6

11:36am Fri 1 Aug 14

st.ranger says...

Buddy SFC wrote:
Well that is the best bit of business we have done this Summer ........ Getting 'Rid' for another season , Can't MoPo have him !!
I will save the song for when its confirmed.....
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: Well that is the best bit of business we have done this Summer ........ Getting 'Rid' for another season , Can't MoPo have him !![/p][/quote]I will save the song for when its confirmed..... st.ranger
  • Score: 0

11:36am Fri 1 Aug 14

Shareholder says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
Or Wings... ahhh the band the Beatles could have been
You have to be joking!
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]Or Wings... ahhh the band the Beatles could have been[/p][/quote]You have to be joking! Shareholder
  • Score: 4

11:40am Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Check out Sky Bet and look at the prices for players linked with Saints.
Fraser Forster 1/3
Ron Vlaar 1/1
Leroy Fer 1/1
Javier Hernandes 3/1
Jordi Classie 4/1
Benteke 12/1

Top 3 look like real possibilites....migh
t have a flutter!

Only bummer is Spider is 1/8 to join spuds!
Check out Sky Bet and look at the prices for players linked with Saints. Fraser Forster 1/3 Ron Vlaar 1/1 Leroy Fer 1/1 Javier Hernandes 3/1 Jordi Classie 4/1 Benteke 12/1 Top 3 look like real possibilites....migh t have a flutter! Only bummer is Spider is 1/8 to join spuds! J7junctionseven
  • Score: 7

11:45am Fri 1 Aug 14

jls217 says...

SaintJD wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Inter are reportedly in talks with Southampton over sending them Ezequiel Schelotto on an initial loan, as well as Saphir Taider.

As part of negotiations for Dani Osvaldo’s move in the opposite direction, the Premier League side have been seen as closing in on an initial loan deal for Algeria international Taider.

Whilst talks for the former are seen as complete and negotiations over the latter remain in the balance, the Gazzetta dello Sport indicate that the two clubs are also discussing a third loan-and-purchase-op


tion agreement for Schelotto.

The Italy-capped winger is reportedly open to the move to the Premier League side and terms are reportedly close to being agreed on an initial season long loan, with a purchase option of €5m in place.

It is believed that Taider and Schelotto’s potential moves to Southampton do not affect whether or not Osvaldo’s imminent deal can be formalised.

Just when you think it can't get any better along comes another Italian jet propelled winger under 25 and with lovely long shiny hair. Take a butchers at him on You tube - These two will give us options we only dreamed about last season. Liarllana - O yeah - I remember him, where'd he go to ...........?
What a MF - Tadic, these two, Spyder(?) Wannayamoney, Davis, Cork, JWP.
'Just when you thought it couldn't get any better' - not a sentence I was expecting to see on this forum this week.

It's a bit of a punt I guess - just hope they know the reasons why these two are surplus to requirements and that they take personality and attitude into account when agreeing a deal - we don't want to jump out of the frying pan into the fire and have people around the place if they aren't 100% on it.

Hopefully both are. We've not had much luck with players the Italians actually rate and they seem to love players we think are liabilities (Os/Balotelli), so you never know, we could uncover a gem or two.

Let's not ever sign or loan anyone just to make up the numbers though.

Shame we can't arrange short trials for these type of deals - just to see if they fit in. Wouldn't like to do even loan deals totally 'blind'.
I think you'll find they are, "Surplus to requirement" simply because Inter Milan's MF reads like a who's who of top rated stars. These two are in the their time will come bracket. Inter need another prove goal scorer and we have one. Unless the medical people find a problem with either of them it seems a sound way of trying them out to see if their abilities and psyche matches out requirements. They both come with a tag of ones for the future on them.
It looks like 5mill -10mill will bring them home to us and I'm betting Rambo and team can double their worth in two seasons with us.
No crystal ball so can't be sure of course.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Inter are reportedly in talks with Southampton over sending them Ezequiel Schelotto on an initial loan, as well as Saphir Taider. As part of negotiations for Dani Osvaldo’s move in the opposite direction, the Premier League side have been seen as closing in on an initial loan deal for Algeria international Taider. Whilst talks for the former are seen as complete and negotiations over the latter remain in the balance, the Gazzetta dello Sport indicate that the two clubs are also discussing a third loan-and-purchase-op tion agreement for Schelotto. The Italy-capped winger is reportedly open to the move to the Premier League side and terms are reportedly close to being agreed on an initial season long loan, with a purchase option of €5m in place. It is believed that Taider and Schelotto’s potential moves to Southampton do not affect whether or not Osvaldo’s imminent deal can be formalised. Just when you think it can't get any better along comes another Italian jet propelled winger under 25 and with lovely long shiny hair. Take a butchers at him on You tube - These two will give us options we only dreamed about last season. Liarllana - O yeah - I remember him, where'd he go to ...........? What a MF - Tadic, these two, Spyder(?) Wannayamoney, Davis, Cork, JWP.[/p][/quote]'Just when you thought it couldn't get any better' - not a sentence I was expecting to see on this forum this week. It's a bit of a punt I guess - just hope they know the reasons why these two are surplus to requirements and that they take personality and attitude into account when agreeing a deal - we don't want to jump out of the frying pan into the fire and have people around the place if they aren't 100% on it. Hopefully both are. We've not had much luck with players the Italians actually rate and they seem to love players we think are liabilities (Os/Balotelli), so you never know, we could uncover a gem or two. Let's not ever sign or loan anyone just to make up the numbers though. Shame we can't arrange short trials for these type of deals - just to see if they fit in. Wouldn't like to do even loan deals totally 'blind'.[/p][/quote]I think you'll find they are, "Surplus to requirement" simply because Inter Milan's MF reads like a who's who of top rated stars. These two are in the their time will come bracket. Inter need another prove goal scorer and we have one. Unless the medical people find a problem with either of them it seems a sound way of trying them out to see if their abilities and psyche matches out requirements. They both come with a tag of ones for the future on them. It looks like 5mill -10mill will bring them home to us and I'm betting Rambo and team can double their worth in two seasons with us. No crystal ball so can't be sure of course. jls217
  • Score: 6

11:46am Fri 1 Aug 14

Shareholder says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Last season several of the players felt they (or their friends, family, Agents and scouse whisperer Gerrard) convinced themselves that they had come as far as they could with SFC and their huge ambitions (sic) could not be met here…

Whether MoPo or NC (unlikelyas he wanted to buy us) unsettled them or they unsettled him we will never know, every autobiography would tell a different story, so we will never know..

What I would say 'provided' the board really do back statements with words ie spend most of the income from sales, is that in many respects we had come as far as the dear departed could take us…

..never has so much possession resulted in so many lost points…

..actually that itself was the hallmark of Espanyol under Mo Po.

..Furthermore most of the succesful players in that team are from Pardew and Nigel's respective reigns.

If the board 'are' being truthful or as appears more likely 'finally ' getting a grip (I am coming around to the lack of football nous more than an asset strip) then with Koeman whose country started the entire tica tac pressing style adopted by Cruyff and Barca 35 years ago we will prosper, MoPo was a student of this the now Southampton way…Koeman was bought up in it.
Careful, you're almost sounding positive!
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Last season several of the players felt they (or their friends, family, Agents and scouse whisperer Gerrard) convinced themselves that they had come as far as they could with SFC and their huge ambitions (sic) could not be met here… Whether MoPo or NC (unlikelyas he wanted to buy us) unsettled them or they unsettled him we will never know, every autobiography would tell a different story, so we will never know.. What I would say 'provided' the board really do back statements with words ie spend most of the income from sales, is that in many respects we had come as far as the dear departed could take us… ..never has so much possession resulted in so many lost points… ..actually that itself was the hallmark of Espanyol under Mo Po. ..Furthermore most of the succesful players in that team are from Pardew and Nigel's respective reigns. If the board 'are' being truthful or as appears more likely 'finally ' getting a grip (I am coming around to the lack of football nous more than an asset strip) then with Koeman whose country started the entire tica tac pressing style adopted by Cruyff and Barca 35 years ago we will prosper, MoPo was a student of this the now Southampton way…Koeman was bought up in it.[/p][/quote]Careful, you're almost sounding positive! Shareholder
  • Score: 10

11:46am Fri 1 Aug 14

fritzer says...

Malcombe wrote:
I have just read on Metro something if true could be quite sinister and illegal and that is Arsen Wenger spoke to Morgan when In Brazil, I cannot believe it would only be about the weather and what a lovely Beach.
I thought it was against FA Rules that no Player can be approached with a view to a transfer without sanctioning from both Clubs and surely Wenger knows this if he doesn't nobody does, Metro also indicated Morgan will go to Arsenal, this is very disturbing if it's true, Morgan could of possibly been poached illegally and persuaded to join Arsenal by the back door with big offers, perhaps Wenger believes he's a rule to himself after being in the job since the early 90s, if there is any truth in this Wenger must be punished in whatever the FA can throw at him, can any posters add to this or is it another nasty rumour by a bored Journalist?
Guess he will be told that you can go when we have your replacement in place, it's the only way out for this one it will be a good face saver, we will never know the out come.
[quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: I have just read on Metro something if true could be quite sinister and illegal and that is Arsen Wenger spoke to Morgan when In Brazil, I cannot believe it would only be about the weather and what a lovely Beach. I thought it was against FA Rules that no Player can be approached with a view to a transfer without sanctioning from both Clubs and surely Wenger knows this if he doesn't nobody does, Metro also indicated Morgan will go to Arsenal, this is very disturbing if it's true, Morgan could of possibly been poached illegally and persuaded to join Arsenal by the back door with big offers, perhaps Wenger believes he's a rule to himself after being in the job since the early 90s, if there is any truth in this Wenger must be punished in whatever the FA can throw at him, can any posters add to this or is it another nasty rumour by a bored Journalist?[/p][/quote]Guess he will be told that you can go when we have your replacement in place, it's the only way out for this one it will be a good face saver, we will never know the out come. fritzer
  • Score: 0

11:52am Fri 1 Aug 14

Mosschops says...

Malcombe wrote:
I have just read on Metro something if true could be quite sinister and illegal and that is Arsen Wenger spoke to Morgan when In Brazil, I cannot believe it would only be about the weather and what a lovely Beach.
I thought it was against FA Rules that no Player can be approached with a view to a transfer without sanctioning from both Clubs and surely Wenger knows this if he doesn't nobody does, Metro also indicated Morgan will go to Arsenal, this is very disturbing if it's true, Morgan could of possibly been poached illegally and persuaded to join Arsenal by the back door with big offers, perhaps Wenger believes he's a rule to himself after being in the job since the early 90s, if there is any truth in this Wenger must be punished in whatever the FA can throw at him, can any posters add to this or is it another nasty rumour by a bored Journalist?
If its the usual one on Metro he is just a blogger with no more clue as to what is going on than I have. Which equals zero.
[quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: I have just read on Metro something if true could be quite sinister and illegal and that is Arsen Wenger spoke to Morgan when In Brazil, I cannot believe it would only be about the weather and what a lovely Beach. I thought it was against FA Rules that no Player can be approached with a view to a transfer without sanctioning from both Clubs and surely Wenger knows this if he doesn't nobody does, Metro also indicated Morgan will go to Arsenal, this is very disturbing if it's true, Morgan could of possibly been poached illegally and persuaded to join Arsenal by the back door with big offers, perhaps Wenger believes he's a rule to himself after being in the job since the early 90s, if there is any truth in this Wenger must be punished in whatever the FA can throw at him, can any posters add to this or is it another nasty rumour by a bored Journalist?[/p][/quote]If its the usual one on Metro he is just a blogger with no more clue as to what is going on than I have. Which equals zero. Mosschops
  • Score: 5

11:56am Fri 1 Aug 14

Shareholder says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
andysaints007 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Why do we keep loaning him out he will be 30 after this one?

Taider sounds good, anyone now how much the option to buy is?
Would you buy him?
Depends on the price I suppose. He's not suited to the Prem imo but obviously is to the Italian league. Last season with Juve and now Inter want him so there is some interest.

Les Reed wont get this but sell him at a big loss and move on. That is better than constant loan outs, periods like summer breaks where we pay his wages, and then at the end of the contract he departs for free anyway. He isn't worth what we paid but he does have value.
We have to hope both players ate big hits. Then we simply do a straight swap at the end of the season.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andysaints007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Why do we keep loaning him out he will be 30 after this one? Taider sounds good, anyone now how much the option to buy is?[/p][/quote]Would you buy him?[/p][/quote]Depends on the price I suppose. He's not suited to the Prem imo but obviously is to the Italian league. Last season with Juve and now Inter want him so there is some interest. Les Reed wont get this but sell him at a big loss and move on. That is better than constant loan outs, periods like summer breaks where we pay his wages, and then at the end of the contract he departs for free anyway. He isn't worth what we paid but he does have value.[/p][/quote]We have to hope both players ate big hits. Then we simply do a straight swap at the end of the season. Shareholder
  • Score: 2

11:56am Fri 1 Aug 14

Mosschops says...

jls217 wrote:
Inter are reportedly in talks with Southampton over sending them Ezequiel Schelotto on an initial loan, as well as Saphir Taider.

As part of negotiations for Dani Osvaldo’s move in the opposite direction, the Premier League side have been seen as closing in on an initial loan deal for Algeria international Taider.

Whilst talks for the former are seen as complete and negotiations over the latter remain in the balance, the Gazzetta dello Sport indicate that the two clubs are also discussing a third loan-and-purchase-op

tion agreement for Schelotto.

The Italy-capped winger is reportedly open to the move to the Premier League side and terms are reportedly close to being agreed on an initial season long loan, with a purchase option of €5m in place.

It is believed that Taider and Schelotto’s potential moves to Southampton do not affect whether or not Osvaldo’s imminent deal can be formalised.

Just when you think it can't get any better along comes another Italian jet propelled winger under 25 and with lovely long shiny hair. Take a butchers at him on You tube - These two will give us options we only dreamed about last season. Liarllana - O yeah - I remember him, where'd he go to ...........?
What a MF - Tadic, these two, Spyder(?) Wannayamoney, Davis, Cork, JWP.
Reading the comments from British Inter fans about Schlotto, he doesn't sound all that. The general vibe was he is all heart with limited ability. They love him in the same way we loved Franny.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Inter are reportedly in talks with Southampton over sending them Ezequiel Schelotto on an initial loan, as well as Saphir Taider. As part of negotiations for Dani Osvaldo’s move in the opposite direction, the Premier League side have been seen as closing in on an initial loan deal for Algeria international Taider. Whilst talks for the former are seen as complete and negotiations over the latter remain in the balance, the Gazzetta dello Sport indicate that the two clubs are also discussing a third loan-and-purchase-op tion agreement for Schelotto. The Italy-capped winger is reportedly open to the move to the Premier League side and terms are reportedly close to being agreed on an initial season long loan, with a purchase option of €5m in place. It is believed that Taider and Schelotto’s potential moves to Southampton do not affect whether or not Osvaldo’s imminent deal can be formalised. Just when you think it can't get any better along comes another Italian jet propelled winger under 25 and with lovely long shiny hair. Take a butchers at him on You tube - These two will give us options we only dreamed about last season. Liarllana - O yeah - I remember him, where'd he go to ...........? What a MF - Tadic, these two, Spyder(?) Wannayamoney, Davis, Cork, JWP.[/p][/quote]Reading the comments from British Inter fans about Schlotto, he doesn't sound all that. The general vibe was he is all heart with limited ability. They love him in the same way we loved Franny. Mosschops
  • Score: -1

12:00pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Shareholder says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
Good analogy. And Bowie knew he had to keep the most influential player in the team, the real talent, the man who made it all tick -Mick Ronson. Just like we know we have to keep Schneiderlin.
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]Good analogy. And Bowie knew he had to keep the most influential player in the team, the real talent, the man who made it all tick -Mick Ronson. Just like we know we have to keep Schneiderlin. Shareholder
  • Score: 0

12:02pm Fri 1 Aug 14

jls217 says...

right back in the bar wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Inter are reportedly in talks with Southampton over sending them Ezequiel Schelotto on an initial loan, as well as Saphir Taider.

As part of negotiations for Dani Osvaldo’s move in the opposite direction, the Premier League side have been seen as closing in on an initial loan deal for Algeria international Taider.

Whilst talks for the former are seen as complete and negotiations over the latter remain in the balance, the Gazzetta dello Sport indicate that the two clubs are also discussing a third loan-and-purchase-op


tion agreement for Schelotto.

The Italy-capped winger is reportedly open to the move to the Premier League side and terms are reportedly close to being agreed on an initial season long loan, with a purchase option of €5m in place.

It is believed that Taider and Schelotto’s potential moves to Southampton do not affect whether or not Osvaldo’s imminent deal can be formalised.

Just when you think it can't get any better along comes another Italian jet propelled winger under 25 and with lovely long shiny hair. Take a butchers at him on You tube - These two will give us options we only dreamed about last season. Liarllana - O yeah - I remember him, where'd he go to ...........?
What a MF - Tadic, these two, Spyder(?) Wannayamoney, Davis, Cork, JWP.
That lovely long shiny hair madam is designed to make him go faster (I take it your female and not batting for the other side)
PMSL. The madam conjecture would have me suggesting you step from the bar that you are right back in and make your way in a health and safety conscious manner toward specsavers mate.
I'm 6'1" and 16 stone and a face that's never walked away from a punch.

The rear gunner conjecture may have earned you the opportunity to be the one throwing the punch.

Far rather join you in the bar for a pint and a discussion on how that lovely long hair is going to streamline him as he bypasses Luke Shaw though.
Besides I only go for centre backs - they're bigger and usually very masterful when I'm in my Lederhosen frame of mind.

Hope we get these two. Take a look on you tube and you'll see what I mean. Ruddy or Foster, Vlaar and Rojo, Ings and we have a team as good or better than the recent departed. It's going to be an orgasmic season.
[quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Inter are reportedly in talks with Southampton over sending them Ezequiel Schelotto on an initial loan, as well as Saphir Taider. As part of negotiations for Dani Osvaldo’s move in the opposite direction, the Premier League side have been seen as closing in on an initial loan deal for Algeria international Taider. Whilst talks for the former are seen as complete and negotiations over the latter remain in the balance, the Gazzetta dello Sport indicate that the two clubs are also discussing a third loan-and-purchase-op tion agreement for Schelotto. The Italy-capped winger is reportedly open to the move to the Premier League side and terms are reportedly close to being agreed on an initial season long loan, with a purchase option of €5m in place. It is believed that Taider and Schelotto’s potential moves to Southampton do not affect whether or not Osvaldo’s imminent deal can be formalised. Just when you think it can't get any better along comes another Italian jet propelled winger under 25 and with lovely long shiny hair. Take a butchers at him on You tube - These two will give us options we only dreamed about last season. Liarllana - O yeah - I remember him, where'd he go to ...........? What a MF - Tadic, these two, Spyder(?) Wannayamoney, Davis, Cork, JWP.[/p][/quote]That lovely long shiny hair madam is designed to make him go faster (I take it your female and not batting for the other side)[/p][/quote]PMSL. The madam conjecture would have me suggesting you step from the bar that you are right back in and make your way in a health and safety conscious manner toward specsavers mate. I'm 6'1" and 16 stone and a face that's never walked away from a punch. The rear gunner conjecture may have earned you the opportunity to be the one throwing the punch. Far rather join you in the bar for a pint and a discussion on how that lovely long hair is going to streamline him as he bypasses Luke Shaw though. Besides I only go for centre backs - they're bigger and usually very masterful when I'm in my Lederhosen frame of mind. Hope we get these two. Take a look on you tube and you'll see what I mean. Ruddy or Foster, Vlaar and Rojo, Ings and we have a team as good or better than the recent departed. It's going to be an orgasmic season. jls217
  • Score: 8

12:02pm Fri 1 Aug 14

St Van Roetford says...

st.ranger wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
I rate Bowie about as much as Pockethemonio, supposedly good but never really delivered anything that wasn't just self indulgent rubbish.

I think we lost the glue and control of the ambition when NC went, so the players started getting a bit bigheaded especially those who associated with the perenial bigheads in the national team. They are not bad lads, just lost their grounding a bit, which does pi$$ of the very grounded supporters.

Perhaps we were too successful too fast, but the second half of the season did not have the energy and attitude of the first so we slipped back to (just) 8th when it could easily have been 5th or 6th with s few clinical finishes against patently worse opponents who often took a point and sometimes 3 away st.marys.
I know there's no such thing as a wrong opinion but, with respect, sir, that is a wrong opinion. From his peerless work of the 70's to his much-maligned 'Tin Machine' period and even his unremembered drum'n'bass phase Bowie was an artist that consistently challenged convention and drove the entire genre of pop music forward with him. I can't imagine the world without him.

As for us, I think next season we'll have way more in the way of goal threat. I reckon we can finish above 8th.
[quote][p][bold]st.ranger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]I rate Bowie about as much as Pockethemonio, supposedly good but never really delivered anything that wasn't just self indulgent rubbish. I think we lost the glue and control of the ambition when NC went, so the players started getting a bit bigheaded especially those who associated with the perenial bigheads in the national team. They are not bad lads, just lost their grounding a bit, which does pi$$ of the very grounded supporters. Perhaps we were too successful too fast, but the second half of the season did not have the energy and attitude of the first so we slipped back to (just) 8th when it could easily have been 5th or 6th with s few clinical finishes against patently worse opponents who often took a point and sometimes 3 away st.marys.[/p][/quote]I know there's no such thing as a wrong opinion but, with respect, sir, that is a wrong opinion. From his peerless work of the 70's to his much-maligned 'Tin Machine' period and even his unremembered drum'n'bass phase Bowie was an artist that consistently challenged convention and drove the entire genre of pop music forward with him. I can't imagine the world without him. As for us, I think next season we'll have way more in the way of goal threat. I reckon we can finish above 8th. St Van Roetford
  • Score: 6

12:02pm Fri 1 Aug 14

singapore saint84 says...

Any possibilities on marcos rojo?? Or have we cooled our interest after bertrand?
Any possibilities on marcos rojo?? Or have we cooled our interest after bertrand? singapore saint84
  • Score: 0

12:08pm Fri 1 Aug 14

jls217 says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Too much good news! I don't think I can handle it and I am seriously thinking of knocking off early and going on the lash to celebrate!!
Oh hang on a minute...I'd better wait for the DE to ruin it all with some more doom and gloom before I decide.........Or is there no doom and gloom on the horizon???
COYR FOADP
Oh you can rest assured they'll dig some up even it's about wotsisname - the one who left, you know him - told us a lot of porkies - I won't sleep tonight now until I remember his name.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Too much good news! I don't think I can handle it and I am seriously thinking of knocking off early and going on the lash to celebrate!! Oh hang on a minute...I'd better wait for the DE to ruin it all with some more doom and gloom before I decide.........Or is there no doom and gloom on the horizon??? COYR FOADP[/p][/quote]Oh you can rest assured they'll dig some up even it's about wotsisname - the one who left, you know him - told us a lot of porkies - I won't sleep tonight now until I remember his name. jls217
  • Score: 1

12:09pm Fri 1 Aug 14

jls217 says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Fonte, Cork and Jay Rod sign new deals would be the icing on the cake!!
Then definately on one!
COYR FOADP
We're on a roll mate you just know it has to happen!
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Fonte, Cork and Jay Rod sign new deals would be the icing on the cake!! Then definately on one! COYR FOADP[/p][/quote]We're on a roll mate you just know it has to happen! jls217
  • Score: 3

12:13pm Fri 1 Aug 14

jls217 says...

InsideOutCat wrote:
Wayne marchant wrote:
FleetSaint wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
Well that is the best bit of business we have done this Summer ........ Getting 'Rid' for another season , Can't MoPo have him !!
I think he should be forced to have him :) Good call.

Funny how a couple of signings and things look much better again.
oh yeah a couple of LOAN deals really makes up for taking a huge gamble on our stable mid table team. I feel like now we are stepping in the right direction.. What a flaming sheep
Don't know about you, but I judge the impact a player will make on his ability rather than what sort of contract he's on. Let's face it, if we've learned one thing this month it's that contracts don't mean the same in football as they do in the real world.
Whine Merchant knows that though. He's just miserable 'cos far too many of the rest of us have half full glasses.
[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wayne marchant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FleetSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: Well that is the best bit of business we have done this Summer ........ Getting 'Rid' for another season , Can't MoPo have him !![/p][/quote]I think he should be forced to have him :) Good call. Funny how a couple of signings and things look much better again.[/p][/quote]oh yeah a couple of LOAN deals really makes up for taking a huge gamble on our stable mid table team. I feel like now we are stepping in the right direction.. What a flaming sheep[/p][/quote]Don't know about you, but I judge the impact a player will make on his ability rather than what sort of contract he's on. Let's face it, if we've learned one thing this month it's that contracts don't mean the same in football as they do in the real world.[/p][/quote]Whine Merchant knows that though. He's just miserable 'cos far too many of the rest of us have half full glasses. jls217
  • Score: 3

12:15pm Fri 1 Aug 14

echo1948 says...

If you think about it logically, getting players in on loan is very shrewd business. Only having to pay wages without spending an enormous transfer fee until you have seen how a player performs makes a lot of sense. You wouldn,t buy a new car without a test drive.
If you think about it logically, getting players in on loan is very shrewd business. Only having to pay wages without spending an enormous transfer fee until you have seen how a player performs makes a lot of sense. You wouldn,t buy a new car without a test drive. echo1948
  • Score: 8

12:21pm Fri 1 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

FIGHT and WIN

Saints Fans now wait for news of SIGNINGS.

I hope that because of the positives last night that that induces further complacency and lack or URGENCY from the Board.

Be FAIR to our Manager and get these deals squared away.

Do not just give KING RON the bare minimum to work with.

We ALL know we need be secure at CB and you saw last night what happened when Artur was subbed and when Kelvin was in goal.

We definitely need an additional Number 1 Keeper on our books.

COYR+WS
FIGHT and WIN Saints Fans now wait for news of SIGNINGS. I hope that because of the positives last night that that induces further complacency and lack or URGENCY from the Board. Be FAIR to our Manager and get these deals squared away. Do not just give KING RON the bare minimum to work with. We ALL know we need be secure at CB and you saw last night what happened when Artur was subbed and when Kelvin was in goal. We definitely need an additional Number 1 Keeper on our books. COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 3

12:22pm Fri 1 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

echo1948 wrote:
If you think about it logically, getting players in on loan is very shrewd business. Only having to pay wages without spending an enormous transfer fee until you have seen how a player performs makes a lot of sense. You wouldn,t buy a new car without a test drive.
Agree - Everton do it all the time to enter the Premiership Top Five.
COYR+WS
[quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: If you think about it logically, getting players in on loan is very shrewd business. Only having to pay wages without spending an enormous transfer fee until you have seen how a player performs makes a lot of sense. You wouldn,t buy a new car without a test drive.[/p][/quote]Agree - Everton do it all the time to enter the Premiership Top Five. COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 4

12:23pm Fri 1 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

SiamSaint wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
jls217 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Check out Taider skills on youtube, are we replacing the old guard with better players because of the new managers reputation and knowledge of the marketplace?
Yeah I watched him a couple of days ago - he's a little tiger by the tail ain't he? Does like a ruck by the looks of him and got a cracking shot on him. Rumour was he was not interested in us though. Looks like it's all back on and if we have the option to buy - well, uncles your Bob really.
We have to hope Arsevaldo performs well enough for them to consider a permanent move for him in return for this youngster.

The times they are a'chaninging!
I'm glad they are, else it would of been sad eyed lady of the lowlands for me.
Stop cryin'
I know, I'm just like a woman.
[quote][p][bold]SiamSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: Check out Taider skills on youtube, are we replacing the old guard with better players because of the new managers reputation and knowledge of the marketplace?[/p][/quote]Yeah I watched him a couple of days ago - he's a little tiger by the tail ain't he? Does like a ruck by the looks of him and got a cracking shot on him. Rumour was he was not interested in us though. Looks like it's all back on and if we have the option to buy - well, uncles your Bob really. We have to hope Arsevaldo performs well enough for them to consider a permanent move for him in return for this youngster. The times they are a'chaninging![/p][/quote]I'm glad they are, else it would of been sad eyed lady of the lowlands for me.[/p][/quote]Stop cryin'[/p][/quote]I know, I'm just like a woman. fascia123
  • Score: -1

12:25pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Mush On The Beach says...

I suspected a while ago that we might take a loan or 2 and I don’t have a problem with it rather than perhaps forcing ourselves into a corner with potential panic buys as time gets tight. If all the rest of the incoming players are loans then I think that would send a different message to the one I want to hear though.
Everton have made the loan system work to their advantage, so I hope Bertrand takes his chance with us and gives Targett the competition he needs. I would have thought this is the end of our interest in Rojo?

If we get Taider on loan then we have got another good young prospect according to a Roma mate of mine who is more knowledgeable of Serie A than me. Osvaldo is well known as damaged goods to us, so I think Italian clubs are deliberately taking advantage and loaning him and waiting for his contract to run down before getting him for a song.

Talking of songs on the unofficial David Bowie day on here I would say we are definitely going through Changes and hopefully are about to enter our Golden Years .... Show us the money Les.
I suspected a while ago that we might take a loan or 2 and I don’t have a problem with it rather than perhaps forcing ourselves into a corner with potential panic buys as time gets tight. If all the rest of the incoming players are loans then I think that would send a different message to the one I want to hear though. Everton have made the loan system work to their advantage, so I hope Bertrand takes his chance with us and gives Targett the competition he needs. I would have thought this is the end of our interest in Rojo? If we get Taider on loan then we have got another good young prospect according to a Roma mate of mine who is more knowledgeable of Serie A than me. Osvaldo is well known as damaged goods to us, so I think Italian clubs are deliberately taking advantage and loaning him and waiting for his contract to run down before getting him for a song. Talking of songs on the unofficial David Bowie day on here I would say we are definitely going through Changes and hopefully are about to enter our Golden Years .... Show us the money Les. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 6

12:26pm Fri 1 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Check out Sky Bet and look at the prices for players linked with Saints.
Fraser Forster 1/3
Ron Vlaar 1/1
Leroy Fer 1/1
Javier Hernandes 3/1
Jordi Classie 4/1
Benteke 12/1

Top 3 look like real possibilites....migh

t have a flutter!

Only bummer is Spider is 1/8 to join spuds!
He's not going anywhere this window - I'm speculating that Ron's job depends on it. If anyone else he wants to keep goes, Ron goes.

Could be completely wrong, but for once this summer the club's statements aren't open to interpretation. And I don't think him striking will change things.

My biggest concern though is getting Cork signed up and avoiding speculation about Clyne and JWP. Also, just for stability, securing Fonte would be good. I wouldn't usually be too worried about losing him, but in the current situation it would help settle the others I think.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Check out Sky Bet and look at the prices for players linked with Saints. Fraser Forster 1/3 Ron Vlaar 1/1 Leroy Fer 1/1 Javier Hernandes 3/1 Jordi Classie 4/1 Benteke 12/1 Top 3 look like real possibilites....migh t have a flutter! Only bummer is Spider is 1/8 to join spuds![/p][/quote]He's not going anywhere this window - I'm speculating that Ron's job depends on it. If anyone else he wants to keep goes, Ron goes. Could be completely wrong, but for once this summer the club's statements aren't open to interpretation. And I don't think him striking will change things. My biggest concern though is getting Cork signed up and avoiding speculation about Clyne and JWP. Also, just for stability, securing Fonte would be good. I wouldn't usually be too worried about losing him, but in the current situation it would help settle the others I think. SaintJD
  • Score: 6

12:27pm Fri 1 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

SiamSaint wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
Very good, we've got five years.

Spot on.
We could heroes.
Koeman is our Starman
[quote][p][bold]SiamSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]Very good, we've got five years. Spot on.[/p][/quote]We could heroes.[/p][/quote]Koeman is our Starman fascia123
  • Score: 7

12:39pm Fri 1 Aug 14

jaydejay says...

So where is all the Summer Sales money going? Loan players will not keep us up!
So where is all the Summer Sales money going? Loan players will not keep us up! jaydejay
  • Score: -17

12:39pm Fri 1 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Quite like the look of Schelotto (although clearly impossible to see from Youtube as Osvaldo is a VERY good Youtube player). But his stature and quick feet look good for the Prem. We will see. Always a punt as I said.
Quite like the look of Schelotto (although clearly impossible to see from Youtube as Osvaldo is a VERY good Youtube player). But his stature and quick feet look good for the Prem. We will see. Always a punt as I said. SaintJD
  • Score: 4

12:41pm Fri 1 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

jaydejay wrote:
So where is all the Summer Sales money going? Loan players will not keep us up!
Has the transfer window shut?
[quote][p][bold]jaydejay[/bold] wrote: So where is all the Summer Sales money going? Loan players will not keep us up![/p][/quote]Has the transfer window shut? fascia123
  • Score: 4

12:41pm Fri 1 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

jaydejay wrote:
So where is all the Summer Sales money going? Loan players will not keep us up!
Has the transfer window shut?
[quote][p][bold]jaydejay[/bold] wrote: So where is all the Summer Sales money going? Loan players will not keep us up![/p][/quote]Has the transfer window shut? fascia123
  • Score: 5

12:49pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Licky_Rambert says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
Or Wings... ahhh the band the Beatles could have been
abso-bloody-exactly!
!
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]Or Wings... ahhh the band the Beatles could have been[/p][/quote]abso-bloody-exactly! ! Licky_Rambert
  • Score: -1

12:53pm Fri 1 Aug 14

andy newbury says...

afraid to say morgan you will be glad in january that you didn,t go to marry up with MP as he will be divorced with his new spurs employers,what a miss match, get another ticket for the next bus ride, the wheels are in motion once again. no more doubts only positive actions please it,s the only way foreword for all us saints fans.that does not mean we have forgiven the board for all the negative actions of the board during the closed season. So far as far as i am concerned you still have a long way to go to set the records right. Saints are on the march once again, up the RED and WHITE saints army.
afraid to say morgan you will be glad in january that you didn,t go to marry up with MP as he will be divorced with his new spurs employers,what a miss match, get another ticket for the next bus ride, the wheels are in motion once again. no more doubts only positive actions please it,s the only way foreword for all us saints fans.that does not mean we have forgiven the board for all the negative actions of the board during the closed season. So far as far as i am concerned you still have a long way to go to set the records right. Saints are on the march once again, up the RED and WHITE saints army. andy newbury
  • Score: 3

12:54pm Fri 1 Aug 14

SodburySaint93 says...

Some good team players from the dutch league - Tadic and Pelle and a few loans are good business (maybe a bit of CB action is required)

Don't want prima donnas, just good team spirit

Test of where we are is against Leverkuesen

Not too worried about Liverpool - Liarlana, Lovren and Rickie won't be able to give Brenda an insight as we will have a new team ethic and style of play unknown to those three

We could again be a surprise package and with ROKO we will have a plan B

I'm fed up of being negative and then sitting on the fence. I've had a dig at the board and then reversed that with being patient.

Positive all the way for me

Just looking forward to the start of the season

COYR
Some good team players from the dutch league - Tadic and Pelle and a few loans are good business (maybe a bit of CB action is required) Don't want prima donnas, just good team spirit Test of where we are is against Leverkuesen Not too worried about Liverpool - Liarlana, Lovren and Rickie won't be able to give Brenda an insight as we will have a new team ethic and style of play unknown to those three We could again be a surprise package and with ROKO we will have a plan B I'm fed up of being negative and then sitting on the fence. I've had a dig at the board and then reversed that with being patient. Positive all the way for me Just looking forward to the start of the season COYR SodburySaint93
  • Score: 9

1:02pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Saintade says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
I feel we're going through a Scary Monsters and Super Creeps era myself.
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]I feel we're going through a Scary Monsters and Super Creeps era myself. Saintade
  • Score: -2

1:10pm Fri 1 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

fascia123 wrote:
jaydejay wrote:
So where is all the Summer Sales money going? Loan players will not keep us up!
Has the transfer window shut?
You misunderstand. He's a Pompey fan and is referring to the current discounts on offer at his local Peacocks.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jaydejay[/bold] wrote: So where is all the Summer Sales money going? Loan players will not keep us up![/p][/quote]Has the transfer window shut?[/p][/quote]You misunderstand. He's a Pompey fan and is referring to the current discounts on offer at his local Peacocks. SaintJD
  • Score: 3

1:12pm Fri 1 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

SodburySaint93 wrote:
Some good team players from the dutch league - Tadic and Pelle and a few loans are good business (maybe a bit of CB action is required)

Don't want prima donnas, just good team spirit

Test of where we are is against Leverkuesen

Not too worried about Liverpool - Liarlana, Lovren and Rickie won't be able to give Brenda an insight as we will have a new team ethic and style of play unknown to those three

We could again be a surprise package and with ROKO we will have a plan B

I'm fed up of being negative and then sitting on the fence. I've had a dig at the board and then reversed that with being patient.

Positive all the way for me

Just looking forward to the start of the season

COYR
When you are on the TERRACES with the enthusiasm and Passion of Saints Supporters - you cannot help but be positive.

When you see the Players and KING RON - again all the positives are there for all to see.

Everyone wants the SEASON to be bright and for SAINTS to do well.

That however does not get the BOARD off the hook - that easily.

NO CHANCE !!!

They really need to IMPROVE their performance and keep the ship steady and stable. They are responsible for inducing the latest CRISIS.

The Board should NEVER have let Rickie Lambert go in the way they did.
He was REJECTED by LFC at an early age. He made Southampton his home.
He should have finished his time with SFC as a useful asset and then privately in his retirement he could do what he wishes including going to Anfield as a Supporter etc

That opened the Flood gate to every other Player to ask themselves - HOW ABOUT my dream move.

The Board must sharpen up and MUST DELIVER the Players to the Gaffer in good time for the start of the Season.

ALL THE LIES from Ralph and Les Reed WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN and they will be judged on their future dealings with MS and JRod.

The PROTEST at St Mary's goes ahead. COYR+WS
[quote][p][bold]SodburySaint93[/bold] wrote: Some good team players from the dutch league - Tadic and Pelle and a few loans are good business (maybe a bit of CB action is required) Don't want prima donnas, just good team spirit Test of where we are is against Leverkuesen Not too worried about Liverpool - Liarlana, Lovren and Rickie won't be able to give Brenda an insight as we will have a new team ethic and style of play unknown to those three We could again be a surprise package and with ROKO we will have a plan B I'm fed up of being negative and then sitting on the fence. I've had a dig at the board and then reversed that with being patient. Positive all the way for me Just looking forward to the start of the season COYR[/p][/quote]When you are on the TERRACES with the enthusiasm and Passion of Saints Supporters - you cannot help but be positive. When you see the Players and KING RON - again all the positives are there for all to see. Everyone wants the SEASON to be bright and for SAINTS to do well. That however does not get the BOARD off the hook - that easily. NO CHANCE !!! They really need to IMPROVE their performance and keep the ship steady and stable. They are responsible for inducing the latest CRISIS. The Board should NEVER have let Rickie Lambert go in the way they did. He was REJECTED by LFC at an early age. He made Southampton his home. He should have finished his time with SFC as a useful asset and then privately in his retirement he could do what he wishes including going to Anfield as a Supporter etc That opened the Flood gate to every other Player to ask themselves - HOW ABOUT my dream move. The Board must sharpen up and MUST DELIVER the Players to the Gaffer in good time for the start of the Season. ALL THE LIES from Ralph and Les Reed WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN and they will be judged on their future dealings with MS and JRod. The PROTEST at St Mary's goes ahead. COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: -19

1:14pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Saintade says...

Delighted we're bringing in some players now, but a little disappointed we only seem to get loanees. I really don't think you get the same passion and commitment from a loan player, but I guess if there is always an option to buy, that could be different. With a loan player it's a bit 'do I really have to go there boss?' You can tell by watching Bertrand's interview that he has been told to drop in as many PR statements as possible - he keeps saying 'yeah the setup really impressed me' 'the future direction' 'the youth training set up' etc etc....none of it is natural. Having said that, good luck to him and the other new signings. Now we desperately need a new goalie....Kelvin still up to his usual tricks gave the goal away last night and he still can't kick a ball.
Delighted we're bringing in some players now, but a little disappointed we only seem to get loanees. I really don't think you get the same passion and commitment from a loan player, but I guess if there is always an option to buy, that could be different. With a loan player it's a bit 'do I really have to go there boss?' You can tell by watching Bertrand's interview that he has been told to drop in as many PR statements as possible - he keeps saying 'yeah the setup really impressed me' 'the future direction' 'the youth training set up' etc etc....none of it is natural. Having said that, good luck to him and the other new signings. Now we desperately need a new goalie....Kelvin still up to his usual tricks gave the goal away last night and he still can't kick a ball. Saintade
  • Score: 2

1:18pm Fri 1 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

well if we start the season as well as we have done in pre-season I will be the first to `lets dance`
well if we start the season as well as we have done in pre-season I will be the first to `lets dance` de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 8

1:28pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Mush On The Beach says...

SaintJD wrote:
Quite like the look of Schelotto (although clearly impossible to see from Youtube as Osvaldo is a VERY good Youtube player). But his stature and quick feet look good for the Prem. We will see. Always a punt as I said.
It’s always a punt with the Italians, for every duffer to enter the prem like Osvaldo, Taibi and Bianchi
there e are gems like Zola, Di Matteo, Di Canio and Benali.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: Quite like the look of Schelotto (although clearly impossible to see from Youtube as Osvaldo is a VERY good Youtube player). But his stature and quick feet look good for the Prem. We will see. Always a punt as I said.[/p][/quote]It’s always a punt with the Italians, for every duffer to enter the prem like Osvaldo, Taibi and Bianchi there e are gems like Zola, Di Matteo, Di Canio and Benali. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 5

1:33pm Fri 1 Aug 14

redandy10 says...

I'm not really surprised that everybody is jumping on the Koeman bandwagon, when he was appointed I did say he was a BRILLIANT appointment and would do a GREAT job for us.

Another day, another spot on prediction!
I'm not really surprised that everybody is jumping on the Koeman bandwagon, when he was appointed I did say he was a BRILLIANT appointment and would do a GREAT job for us. Another day, another spot on prediction! redandy10
  • Score: -1

1:38pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Mush On The Beach says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
well if we start the season as well as we have done in pre-season I will be the first to `lets dance`
Horse you are a man of research and facts .....please can you inform me how many players can a club loan in its squad at any one time?
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: well if we start the season as well as we have done in pre-season I will be the first to `lets dance`[/p][/quote]Horse you are a man of research and facts .....please can you inform me how many players can a club loan in its squad at any one time? Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 2

1:40pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Jan28th1984 says...

Is Veronica Graf part of the deal?
Is Veronica Graf part of the deal? Jan28th1984
  • Score: 0

1:44pm Fri 1 Aug 14

rossofficial10 says...

he might be the new hassan kachloul!
he might be the new hassan kachloul! rossofficial10
  • Score: 0

1:46pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Ozmosis says...

Saintade wrote:
Delighted we're bringing in some players now, but a little disappointed we only seem to get loanees. I really don't think you get the same passion and commitment from a loan player, but I guess if there is always an option to buy, that could be different. With a loan player it's a bit 'do I really have to go there boss?' You can tell by watching Bertrand's interview that he has been told to drop in as many PR statements as possible - he keeps saying 'yeah the setup really impressed me' 'the future direction' 'the youth training set up' etc etc....none of it is natural. Having said that, good luck to him and the other new signings. Now we desperately need a new goalie....Kelvin still up to his usual tricks gave the goal away last night and he still can't kick a ball.
He may well have been told what to say as he probably knows very little about the club's full background, but if you're not playing week in week out then you might just want a move to a club that will actually play you.
[quote][p][bold]Saintade[/bold] wrote: Delighted we're bringing in some players now, but a little disappointed we only seem to get loanees. I really don't think you get the same passion and commitment from a loan player, but I guess if there is always an option to buy, that could be different. With a loan player it's a bit 'do I really have to go there boss?' You can tell by watching Bertrand's interview that he has been told to drop in as many PR statements as possible - he keeps saying 'yeah the setup really impressed me' 'the future direction' 'the youth training set up' etc etc....none of it is natural. Having said that, good luck to him and the other new signings. Now we desperately need a new goalie....Kelvin still up to his usual tricks gave the goal away last night and he still can't kick a ball.[/p][/quote]He may well have been told what to say as he probably knows very little about the club's full background, but if you're not playing week in week out then you might just want a move to a club that will actually play you. Ozmosis
  • Score: 3

1:51pm Fri 1 Aug 14

deepheat says...

Poxytino inherited a very good team thanks to Alan Pardew and Nigel Adkins. From what I read Poxytino wanted Osvaldo and phoned and begged him to come to St Marys and Cortese backed him. It was reported that Poxytino ignored the fringe players preferring to just train the best ones all of whom have now left. Towards the end Poxytino wasn't even bothering turning up at Staplewood. He was probably at home watching tapes of Spuds knowing he was heading there all along.

Anyone that thinks Poxytino and Cortese could have stopped players leaving St Marys know nothing about football. In fact Cortese had already started the process by nearly selling Lambert to West Ham. Poxytino was offered the job of rebuilding Southampton FC but he was not up to it. I would hate to think what a rebuilt Southampton side under Poxytino would look like.

Step Up Ronald Koeman. A football man who can not only rebuilt the Saints team for the better but is looks like he is enjoying doing it.
Poxytino inherited a very good team thanks to Alan Pardew and Nigel Adkins. From what I read Poxytino wanted Osvaldo and phoned and begged him to come to St Marys and Cortese backed him. It was reported that Poxytino ignored the fringe players preferring to just train the best ones all of whom have now left. Towards the end Poxytino wasn't even bothering turning up at Staplewood. He was probably at home watching tapes of Spuds knowing he was heading there all along. Anyone that thinks Poxytino and Cortese could have stopped players leaving St Marys know nothing about football. In fact Cortese had already started the process by nearly selling Lambert to West Ham. Poxytino was offered the job of rebuilding Southampton FC but he was not up to it. I would hate to think what a rebuilt Southampton side under Poxytino would look like. Step Up Ronald Koeman. A football man who can not only rebuilt the Saints team for the better but is looks like he is enjoying doing it. deepheat
  • Score: 22

1:53pm Fri 1 Aug 14

right back in the bar says...

jls217 wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Inter are reportedly in talks with Southampton over sending them Ezequiel Schelotto on an initial loan, as well as Saphir Taider.

As part of negotiations for Dani Osvaldo’s move in the opposite direction, the Premier League side have been seen as closing in on an initial loan deal for Algeria international Taider.

Whilst talks for the former are seen as complete and negotiations over the latter remain in the balance, the Gazzetta dello Sport indicate that the two clubs are also discussing a third loan-and-purchase-op



tion agreement for Schelotto.

The Italy-capped winger is reportedly open to the move to the Premier League side and terms are reportedly close to being agreed on an initial season long loan, with a purchase option of €5m in place.

It is believed that Taider and Schelotto’s potential moves to Southampton do not affect whether or not Osvaldo’s imminent deal can be formalised.

Just when you think it can't get any better along comes another Italian jet propelled winger under 25 and with lovely long shiny hair. Take a butchers at him on You tube - These two will give us options we only dreamed about last season. Liarllana - O yeah - I remember him, where'd he go to ...........?
What a MF - Tadic, these two, Spyder(?) Wannayamoney, Davis, Cork, JWP.
That lovely long shiny hair madam is designed to make him go faster (I take it your female and not batting for the other side)
PMSL. The madam conjecture would have me suggesting you step from the bar that you are right back in and make your way in a health and safety conscious manner toward specsavers mate.
I'm 6'1" and 16 stone and a face that's never walked away from a punch.

The rear gunner conjecture may have earned you the opportunity to be the one throwing the punch.

Far rather join you in the bar for a pint and a discussion on how that lovely long hair is going to streamline him as he bypasses Luke Shaw though.
Besides I only go for centre backs - they're bigger and usually very masterful when I'm in my Lederhosen frame of mind.

Hope we get these two. Take a look on you tube and you'll see what I mean. Ruddy or Foster, Vlaar and Rojo, Ings and we have a team as good or better than the recent departed. It's going to be an orgasmic season.
Agreed and a more robust team too - never convinced Lallana had a stomach for the physical aspects of the game Tadic on the other hand clearly fancies a tackle. I don't think Vlaar is coming but got a feeling the argentine will and he is good (if he does we just have to excuse him his lineage).
here's to more resilience and more goals (I've a face that never walked away from a pint)
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Inter are reportedly in talks with Southampton over sending them Ezequiel Schelotto on an initial loan, as well as Saphir Taider. As part of negotiations for Dani Osvaldo’s move in the opposite direction, the Premier League side have been seen as closing in on an initial loan deal for Algeria international Taider. Whilst talks for the former are seen as complete and negotiations over the latter remain in the balance, the Gazzetta dello Sport indicate that the two clubs are also discussing a third loan-and-purchase-op tion agreement for Schelotto. The Italy-capped winger is reportedly open to the move to the Premier League side and terms are reportedly close to being agreed on an initial season long loan, with a purchase option of €5m in place. It is believed that Taider and Schelotto’s potential moves to Southampton do not affect whether or not Osvaldo’s imminent deal can be formalised. Just when you think it can't get any better along comes another Italian jet propelled winger under 25 and with lovely long shiny hair. Take a butchers at him on You tube - These two will give us options we only dreamed about last season. Liarllana - O yeah - I remember him, where'd he go to ...........? What a MF - Tadic, these two, Spyder(?) Wannayamoney, Davis, Cork, JWP.[/p][/quote]That lovely long shiny hair madam is designed to make him go faster (I take it your female and not batting for the other side)[/p][/quote]PMSL. The madam conjecture would have me suggesting you step from the bar that you are right back in and make your way in a health and safety conscious manner toward specsavers mate. I'm 6'1" and 16 stone and a face that's never walked away from a punch. The rear gunner conjecture may have earned you the opportunity to be the one throwing the punch. Far rather join you in the bar for a pint and a discussion on how that lovely long hair is going to streamline him as he bypasses Luke Shaw though. Besides I only go for centre backs - they're bigger and usually very masterful when I'm in my Lederhosen frame of mind. Hope we get these two. Take a look on you tube and you'll see what I mean. Ruddy or Foster, Vlaar and Rojo, Ings and we have a team as good or better than the recent departed. It's going to be an orgasmic season.[/p][/quote]Agreed and a more robust team too - never convinced Lallana had a stomach for the physical aspects of the game Tadic on the other hand clearly fancies a tackle. I don't think Vlaar is coming but got a feeling the argentine will and he is good (if he does we just have to excuse him his lineage). here's to more resilience and more goals (I've a face that never walked away from a pint) right back in the bar
  • Score: 2

2:00pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Mush On The Beach says...

redandy10 wrote:
I'm not really surprised that everybody is jumping on the Koeman bandwagon, when he was appointed I did say he was a BRILLIANT appointment and would do a GREAT job for us.

Another day, another spot on prediction!
You do make me laugh sometimes redandy, there are a few top show ponies on here not withstanding me and you. This whole sorry episode of the off season has added a better balance to the forum and its posters. I for one celebrate the fact that you and me agreed that Osvaldo could be a good signing for us .... ooops!
Another day, another spot on prediction?

I'm gagging for the start of the season.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: I'm not really surprised that everybody is jumping on the Koeman bandwagon, when he was appointed I did say he was a BRILLIANT appointment and would do a GREAT job for us. Another day, another spot on prediction![/p][/quote]You do make me laugh sometimes redandy, there are a few top show ponies on here not withstanding me and you. This whole sorry episode of the off season has added a better balance to the forum and its posters. I for one celebrate the fact that you and me agreed that Osvaldo could be a good signing for us .... ooops! Another day, another spot on prediction? I'm gagging for the start of the season. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 8

2:04pm Fri 1 Aug 14

warrens 76 says...

Shareholder wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Last season several of the players felt they (or their friends, family, Agents and scouse whisperer Gerrard) convinced themselves that they had come as far as they could with SFC and their huge ambitions (sic) could not be met here…

Whether MoPo or NC (unlikelyas he wanted to buy us) unsettled them or they unsettled him we will never know, every autobiography would tell a different story, so we will never know..

What I would say 'provided' the board really do back statements with words ie spend most of the income from sales, is that in many respects we had come as far as the dear departed could take us…

..never has so much possession resulted in so many lost points…

..actually that itself was the hallmark of Espanyol under Mo Po.

..Furthermore most of the succesful players in that team are from Pardew and Nigel's respective reigns.

If the board 'are' being truthful or as appears more likely 'finally ' getting a grip (I am coming around to the lack of football nous more than an asset strip) then with Koeman whose country started the entire tica tac pressing style adopted by Cruyff and Barca 35 years ago we will prosper, MoPo was a student of this the now Southampton way…Koeman was bought up in it.
Careful, you're almost sounding positive!
Read the caveats!
[quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Last season several of the players felt they (or their friends, family, Agents and scouse whisperer Gerrard) convinced themselves that they had come as far as they could with SFC and their huge ambitions (sic) could not be met here… Whether MoPo or NC (unlikelyas he wanted to buy us) unsettled them or they unsettled him we will never know, every autobiography would tell a different story, so we will never know.. What I would say 'provided' the board really do back statements with words ie spend most of the income from sales, is that in many respects we had come as far as the dear departed could take us… ..never has so much possession resulted in so many lost points… ..actually that itself was the hallmark of Espanyol under Mo Po. ..Furthermore most of the succesful players in that team are from Pardew and Nigel's respective reigns. If the board 'are' being truthful or as appears more likely 'finally ' getting a grip (I am coming around to the lack of football nous more than an asset strip) then with Koeman whose country started the entire tica tac pressing style adopted by Cruyff and Barca 35 years ago we will prosper, MoPo was a student of this the now Southampton way…Koeman was bought up in it.[/p][/quote]Careful, you're almost sounding positive![/p][/quote]Read the caveats! warrens 76
  • Score: 2

2:11pm Fri 1 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
well if we start the season as well as we have done in pre-season I will be the first to `lets dance`
Horse you are a man of research and facts .....please can you inform me how many players can a club loan in its squad at any one time?
its hard to make out really different places give different rules. however the football association (simplified rules) state.

6.6.3 Clubs may have up to a maximum of four (4) Long Term Loan Transfers of any age during a
Playing Season.

6.6.2 Short Term Loan Transfers – A Club can have up to a maximum of twelve (12) Short Term
Loans during a Playing Season. The minimum period of a Short Term Loan transfer must
be twenty-eight (28) days with a maximum of ninety-three (93) days in any one Playing
Season.
The Competition shall not approve more than two (2) Short Term Loan transfers to or from
any one Club, including Premier League and Football League Clubs, at any one time.

however the scouse echo say,
Premier League rules limit clubs to just two season-long domestic loans but international deals are, essentially, limitless.
League regulations also say that no side can have more than one domestic loan from the same club.


so it looks like you can have 4 long term loans with 2 coming from abroad and 12 short term (1-3month) loans, only 2 loans can come from another domestic club.

as I say its hard to find the regulations because they are split over several different sections and sub-sections of the fa rules, prem comes under the fa and I cant find the prem rules regarding this so I think the fa rules are in play.

hope that helps mush.
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: well if we start the season as well as we have done in pre-season I will be the first to `lets dance`[/p][/quote]Horse you are a man of research and facts .....please can you inform me how many players can a club loan in its squad at any one time?[/p][/quote]its hard to make out really different places give different rules. however the football association (simplified rules) state. 6.6.3 Clubs may have up to a maximum of four (4) Long Term Loan Transfers of any age during a Playing Season. 6.6.2 Short Term Loan Transfers – A Club can have up to a maximum of twelve (12) Short Term Loans during a Playing Season. The minimum period of a Short Term Loan transfer must be twenty-eight (28) days with a maximum of ninety-three (93) days in any one Playing Season. The Competition shall not approve more than two (2) Short Term Loan transfers to or from any one Club, including Premier League and Football League Clubs, at any one time. however the scouse echo say, Premier League rules limit clubs to just two season-long domestic loans but international deals are, essentially, limitless. League regulations also say that no side can have more than one domestic loan from the same club. so it looks like you can have 4 long term loans with 2 coming from abroad and 12 short term (1-3month) loans, only 2 loans can come from another domestic club. as I say its hard to find the regulations because they are split over several different sections and sub-sections of the fa rules, prem comes under the fa and I cant find the prem rules regarding this so I think the fa rules are in play. hope that helps mush. de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 6

2:13pm Fri 1 Aug 14

warrens 76 says...

It is a fact that for some5 years now we have played the ?southampton way'…every player has integrated into it and or academy system demands it..it is also the Dutch way which has been attributed to Barcelona who actually had it bought to them by Cruyff!!

Our style will not change, but for good or bad our resiliance and goalscoring might…if both work for us we could be top 6 no trouble if both work against bottom 6…if 50/50 mid table obscurity….

In the words of Mr Peter Bunting 'who can tell'.
It is a fact that for some5 years now we have played the ?southampton way'…every player has integrated into it and or academy system demands it..it is also the Dutch way which has been attributed to Barcelona who actually had it bought to them by Cruyff!! Our style will not change, but for good or bad our resiliance and goalscoring might…if both work for us we could be top 6 no trouble if both work against bottom 6…if 50/50 mid table obscurity…. In the words of Mr Peter Bunting 'who can tell'. warrens 76
  • Score: 4

2:23pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Dooorrrset saint says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
Quite like the look of Schelotto (although clearly impossible to see from Youtube as Osvaldo is a VERY good Youtube player). But his stature and quick feet look good for the Prem. We will see. Always a punt as I said.
It’s always a punt with the Italians, for every duffer to enter the prem like Osvaldo, Taibi and Bianchi
there e are gems like Zola, Di Matteo, Di Canio and Benali.
Ha.....funny post!
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: Quite like the look of Schelotto (although clearly impossible to see from Youtube as Osvaldo is a VERY good Youtube player). But his stature and quick feet look good for the Prem. We will see. Always a punt as I said.[/p][/quote]It’s always a punt with the Italians, for every duffer to enter the prem like Osvaldo, Taibi and Bianchi there e are gems like Zola, Di Matteo, Di Canio and Benali.[/p][/quote]Ha.....funny post! Dooorrrset saint
  • Score: 5

2:23pm Fri 1 Aug 14

roverme says...

Having just watched highlights of the Brighton game I must say that Lloyd Isgrove looked more than useful. I hope the influx of new players that I realise we need doesn't restrict the chances of some of our youngsters too much. With the right balance of imports and home grown I think we could a very decent season still. So far the new players look fine from what I've seen and read In interviews on Saints player, the mood seems to be ok despite all the upheaval.
I doubt that RK has arrived just for the ride, he's confident and with one or two additions we will still have in my opinion a better than average team, quite capable of mid table if not better. I hope I'm right anyway. On the other hand I am somewhat bias being soton born and bred, not long to find out now though, cant wait!
Having just watched highlights of the Brighton game I must say that Lloyd Isgrove looked more than useful. I hope the influx of new players that I realise we need doesn't restrict the chances of some of our youngsters too much. With the right balance of imports and home grown I think we could a very decent season still. So far the new players look fine from what I've seen and read In interviews on Saints player, the mood seems to be ok despite all the upheaval. I doubt that RK has arrived just for the ride, he's confident and with one or two additions we will still have in my opinion a better than average team, quite capable of mid table if not better. I hope I'm right anyway. On the other hand I am somewhat bias being soton born and bred, not long to find out now though, cant wait! roverme
  • Score: 8

2:23pm Fri 1 Aug 14

redandy10 says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
I'm not really surprised that everybody is jumping on the Koeman bandwagon, when he was appointed I did say he was a BRILLIANT appointment and would do a GREAT job for us.

Another day, another spot on prediction!
You do make me laugh sometimes redandy, there are a few top show ponies on here not withstanding me and you. This whole sorry episode of the off season has added a better balance to the forum and its posters. I for one celebrate the fact that you and me agreed that Osvaldo could be a good signing for us .... ooops!
Another day, another spot on prediction?

I'm gagging for the start of the season.
I think you are spot on about the forum Mush! But let's not mince words, the happy clappers have been well and truly put in their rose tinted places. They can still be found scuttling around the forum, but they are smarting from their very wide of the mark post season predictions. I think this is where your better balance observation comes into play, the clappers can't shout anyone down anymore.

Mush you should be commended for the patience and tolerance you afford them. I personally believe they should be herded onto their own "kids table" thread. The DE could feed them only POSITIVE stories, maybe alternating with the odd fairytale.
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: I'm not really surprised that everybody is jumping on the Koeman bandwagon, when he was appointed I did say he was a BRILLIANT appointment and would do a GREAT job for us. Another day, another spot on prediction![/p][/quote]You do make me laugh sometimes redandy, there are a few top show ponies on here not withstanding me and you. This whole sorry episode of the off season has added a better balance to the forum and its posters. I for one celebrate the fact that you and me agreed that Osvaldo could be a good signing for us .... ooops! Another day, another spot on prediction? I'm gagging for the start of the season.[/p][/quote]I think you are spot on about the forum Mush! But let's not mince words, the happy clappers have been well and truly put in their rose tinted places. They can still be found scuttling around the forum, but they are smarting from their very wide of the mark post season predictions. I think this is where your better balance observation comes into play, the clappers can't shout anyone down anymore. Mush you should be commended for the patience and tolerance you afford them. I personally believe they should be herded onto their own "kids table" thread. The DE could feed them only POSITIVE stories, maybe alternating with the odd fairytale. redandy10
  • Score: -10

2:31pm Fri 1 Aug 14

HAZZAAR says...

InsideOutCat wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
Didn't Aladdin Sane come before Ziggy Stardust?

I get your point though: curiosity for change is a powerful force, as is the reassurance of what we know. Most of us tooter along the line between the two until the wind form one direction or the other blows us over the edge.

Mind you, we WOULD have been spared cack like China Girl, I Have Not Been To Oxford Town, Little Wonder etc .........
I quite liked China girl.
[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]Didn't Aladdin Sane come before Ziggy Stardust? I get your point though: curiosity for change is a powerful force, as is the reassurance of what we know. Most of us tooter along the line between the two until the wind form one direction or the other blows us over the edge. Mind you, we WOULD have been spared cack like China Girl, I Have Not Been To Oxford Town, Little Wonder etc .........[/p][/quote]I quite liked China girl. HAZZAAR
  • Score: -2

2:32pm Fri 1 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

warrens 76 wrote:
It is a fact that for some5 years now we have played the ?southampton way'…every player has integrated into it and or academy system demands it..it is also the Dutch way which has been attributed to Barcelona who actually had it bought to them by Cruyff!!

Our style will not change, but for good or bad our resiliance and goalscoring might…if both work for us we could be top 6 no trouble if both work against bottom 6…if 50/50 mid table obscurity….

In the words of Mr Peter Bunting 'who can tell'.
Funny (and I'm not taking the micky here or doom mongering) but you can't help but see the slight similary between the secret of our success and the model Lowe unsuccessfully tried to adopt back in the day.

Certainly his focus on youth being the future and progressive continental style coaching has been realised through the likes of Spider and Adam and, laterly, a huge amount of players who have been filtering through the academy.

Lowe's problem of course was trying to do it a) too quickly b) with an initial manager who is the polar opposite of that model, ie, Redknapp and c) then getting the right framework but trying to implement it too quickly in totally the wrong league, with an unproven manager, and with already weary fans who frankly hate you with fairly good reason.

Some would say it has eventually worked wonders though and is the envy of the country and, say it very quietly for risk of getting the thumbs down this post will get for saying his name) he deserves a shred of credit, even if he nearly killed the club doing it.

Now the litmus test - once you've become the victim of your own success and sold, at an amazing profit - can you just kick on with the next cycle?
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: It is a fact that for some5 years now we have played the ?southampton way'…every player has integrated into it and or academy system demands it..it is also the Dutch way which has been attributed to Barcelona who actually had it bought to them by Cruyff!! Our style will not change, but for good or bad our resiliance and goalscoring might…if both work for us we could be top 6 no trouble if both work against bottom 6…if 50/50 mid table obscurity…. In the words of Mr Peter Bunting 'who can tell'.[/p][/quote]Funny (and I'm not taking the micky here or doom mongering) but you can't help but see the slight similary between the secret of our success and the model Lowe unsuccessfully tried to adopt back in the day. Certainly his focus on youth being the future and progressive continental style coaching has been realised through the likes of Spider and Adam and, laterly, a huge amount of players who have been filtering through the academy. Lowe's problem of course was trying to do it a) too quickly b) with an initial manager who is the polar opposite of that model, ie, Redknapp and c) then getting the right framework but trying to implement it too quickly in totally the wrong league, with an unproven manager, and with already weary fans who frankly hate you with fairly good reason. Some would say it has eventually worked wonders though and is the envy of the country and, say it very quietly for risk of getting the thumbs down this post will get for saying his name) he deserves a shred of credit, even if he nearly killed the club doing it. Now the litmus test - once you've become the victim of your own success and sold, at an amazing profit - can you just kick on with the next cycle? SaintJD
  • Score: 13

2:38pm Fri 1 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

HAZZAAR wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
Didn't Aladdin Sane come before Ziggy Stardust?

I get your point though: curiosity for change is a powerful force, as is the reassurance of what we know. Most of us tooter along the line between the two until the wind form one direction or the other blows us over the edge.

Mind you, we WOULD have been spared cack like China Girl, I Have Not Been To Oxford Town, Little Wonder etc .........
I quite liked China girl.
Are you saying we're a bit like Tin Machine? And will refuse to play any of our old stuff from now on?
[quote][p][bold]HAZZAAR[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]Didn't Aladdin Sane come before Ziggy Stardust? I get your point though: curiosity for change is a powerful force, as is the reassurance of what we know. Most of us tooter along the line between the two until the wind form one direction or the other blows us over the edge. Mind you, we WOULD have been spared cack like China Girl, I Have Not Been To Oxford Town, Little Wonder etc .........[/p][/quote]I quite liked China girl.[/p][/quote]Are you saying we're a bit like Tin Machine? And will refuse to play any of our old stuff from now on? SaintJD
  • Score: -1

3:16pm Fri 1 Aug 14

steekeemcglue says...

warrens 76 wrote:
It is a fact that for some5 years now we have played the ?southampton way'…every player has integrated into it and or academy system demands it..it is also the Dutch way which has been attributed to Barcelona who actually had it bought to them by Cruyff!!

Our style will not change, but for good or bad our resiliance and goalscoring might…if both work for us we could be top 6 no trouble if both work against bottom 6…if 50/50 mid table obscurity….

In the words of Mr Peter Bunting 'who can tell'.
I think our style will change under Koeman. A more patient game with less headless chicken stuff. Poch will get found out at spuds and he be sacked after they play a few games around christmas with 65% possession yet loose 2-1....etc etc
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: It is a fact that for some5 years now we have played the ?southampton way'…every player has integrated into it and or academy system demands it..it is also the Dutch way which has been attributed to Barcelona who actually had it bought to them by Cruyff!! Our style will not change, but for good or bad our resiliance and goalscoring might…if both work for us we could be top 6 no trouble if both work against bottom 6…if 50/50 mid table obscurity…. In the words of Mr Peter Bunting 'who can tell'.[/p][/quote]I think our style will change under Koeman. A more patient game with less headless chicken stuff. Poch will get found out at spuds and he be sacked after they play a few games around christmas with 65% possession yet loose 2-1....etc etc steekeemcglue
  • Score: 3

3:24pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

Glenn Cockerill wrote:
I do like the look of Taider. Very tidy and neat but also likes a tackle = Perfect combo! However, (And i'm not being "neggie") but why are we now turning to loans and not spending just some of the funds we now have and have been promised that Ronnie can spend? I don't get it. This lad is quailty, buy him! The left back lad from Chelsea, very good player, buy him!
I'm sure it isnt that simple but i worry and saints and loans dont offer me confidence. Did saggy face twitch man try loans at Saints and look what happened then! Anyways, in Ron Dom Koeman i trust! He'll do us rigghhht!
See my earlier post but I think with the new 'Non Fair Play League' Rules, balancing the wage bill with income from transfer like Everton do, therefore not all the £92 million is spent on transfer fee's with a massive wage bill to bite you later .........

As is the Liverhampton model !
[quote][p][bold]Glenn Cockerill[/bold] wrote: I do like the look of Taider. Very tidy and neat but also likes a tackle = Perfect combo! However, (And i'm not being "neggie") but why are we now turning to loans and not spending just some of the funds we now have and have been promised that Ronnie can spend? I don't get it. This lad is quailty, buy him! The left back lad from Chelsea, very good player, buy him! I'm sure it isnt that simple but i worry and saints and loans dont offer me confidence. Did saggy face twitch man try loans at Saints and look what happened then! Anyways, in Ron Dom Koeman i trust! He'll do us rigghhht![/p][/quote]See my earlier post but I think with the new 'Non Fair Play League' Rules, balancing the wage bill with income from transfer like Everton do, therefore not all the £92 million is spent on transfer fee's with a massive wage bill to bite you later ......... As is the Liverhampton model ! Buddy SFC
  • Score: 4

3:29pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

jaydejay wrote:
So where is all the Summer Sales money going? Loan players will not keep us up!
Why ? Lukaku didn't do badly at Everton ?
[quote][p][bold]jaydejay[/bold] wrote: So where is all the Summer Sales money going? Loan players will not keep us up![/p][/quote]Why ? Lukaku didn't do badly at Everton ? Buddy SFC
  • Score: 4

3:31pm Fri 1 Aug 14

saints_alive says...

Give them 2 weeks with Fergie; give them 1 day with Clough:
In vogue and hyped managers can commit no ill???? No!! This headline is a hangover from NC and Poch. It is ultimately NC who was given carte blanche to appease Poch;s ego, to try again with an ego-fuelled numpty. The Pirate;s transfer fee and wages alone put the club further into debt. That and Gaston;s fee and lack of commitment led to Kat;s intervention. Give them 2 weeks with Fergie; give them 1 day with Clough and they will be licking trees in the New Forest out of appreciation.
Give them 2 weeks with Fergie; give them 1 day with Clough: In vogue and hyped managers can commit no ill???? No!! This headline is a hangover from NC and Poch. It is ultimately NC who was given carte blanche to appease Poch;s ego, to try again with an ego-fuelled numpty. The Pirate;s transfer fee and wages alone put the club further into debt. That and Gaston;s fee and lack of commitment led to Kat;s intervention. Give them 2 weeks with Fergie; give them 1 day with Clough and they will be licking trees in the New Forest out of appreciation. saints_alive
  • Score: 2

3:32pm Fri 1 Aug 14

ItchenBridger says...

SaintJD wrote:
HAZZAAR wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
Didn't Aladdin Sane come before Ziggy Stardust?

I get your point though: curiosity for change is a powerful force, as is the reassurance of what we know. Most of us tooter along the line between the two until the wind form one direction or the other blows us over the edge.

Mind you, we WOULD have been spared cack like China Girl, I Have Not Been To Oxford Town, Little Wonder etc .........
I quite liked China girl.
Are you saying we're a bit like Tin Machine? And will refuse to play any of our old stuff from now on?
Never liked Bowie.....never will!

Give me...... Sweet George O'Brien any day.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HAZZAAR[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]Didn't Aladdin Sane come before Ziggy Stardust? I get your point though: curiosity for change is a powerful force, as is the reassurance of what we know. Most of us tooter along the line between the two until the wind form one direction or the other blows us over the edge. Mind you, we WOULD have been spared cack like China Girl, I Have Not Been To Oxford Town, Little Wonder etc .........[/p][/quote]I quite liked China girl.[/p][/quote]Are you saying we're a bit like Tin Machine? And will refuse to play any of our old stuff from now on?[/p][/quote]Never liked Bowie.....never will! Give me...... Sweet George O'Brien any day. ItchenBridger
  • Score: 0

3:53pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Jan28th1984 says...

saints_alive wrote:
Give them 2 weeks with Fergie; give them 1 day with Clough:
In vogue and hyped managers can commit no ill???? No!! This headline is a hangover from NC and Poch. It is ultimately NC who was given carte blanche to appease Poch;s ego, to try again with an ego-fuelled numpty. The Pirate;s transfer fee and wages alone put the club further into debt. That and Gaston;s fee and lack of commitment led to Kat;s intervention. Give them 2 weeks with Fergie; give them 1 day with Clough and they will be licking trees in the New Forest out of appreciation.
What on earth are you on about?
[quote][p][bold]saints_alive[/bold] wrote: Give them 2 weeks with Fergie; give them 1 day with Clough: In vogue and hyped managers can commit no ill???? No!! This headline is a hangover from NC and Poch. It is ultimately NC who was given carte blanche to appease Poch;s ego, to try again with an ego-fuelled numpty. The Pirate;s transfer fee and wages alone put the club further into debt. That and Gaston;s fee and lack of commitment led to Kat;s intervention. Give them 2 weeks with Fergie; give them 1 day with Clough and they will be licking trees in the New Forest out of appreciation.[/p][/quote]What on earth are you on about? Jan28th1984
  • Score: 2

4:03pm Fri 1 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

redandy10 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
I'm not really surprised that everybody is jumping on the Koeman bandwagon, when he was appointed I did say he was a BRILLIANT appointment and would do a GREAT job for us.

Another day, another spot on prediction!
You do make me laugh sometimes redandy, there are a few top show ponies on here not withstanding me and you. This whole sorry episode of the off season has added a better balance to the forum and its posters. I for one celebrate the fact that you and me agreed that Osvaldo could be a good signing for us .... ooops!
Another day, another spot on prediction?

I'm gagging for the start of the season.
I think you are spot on about the forum Mush! But let's not mince words, the happy clappers have been well and truly put in their rose tinted places. They can still be found scuttling around the forum, but they are smarting from their very wide of the mark post season predictions. I think this is where your better balance observation comes into play, the clappers can't shout anyone down anymore.

Mush you should be commended for the patience and tolerance you afford them. I personally believe they should be herded onto their own "kids table" thread. The DE could feed them only POSITIVE stories, maybe alternating with the odd fairytale.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.......that was a joke right?

redandy I think you will find that whats happened is the forum is returning to normal as more and more of the moaner wums realise their doom and gloom predictions were oh so wrong. claiming you were the only one who could see all the players going is an absolute magnificently funny joke, I predicted it ffs! difference is I also said that the club could keep the players if they wanted to, see spider and J-Rod!
you were the one who said they couldn't do it, so that makes you, now whats the opposite of correct? oh yes WRONG!
the forum is getting back to the way it was before the self obsessed over opinionated big headed pompous fools who shout down anyone who tries to support the club and players as `happy clappers` started believing anything they read in the red tops. the constant slating of the club, the fans, the vile comments to the owner, the management, and the decisions has been astonishing from those who claim to support the club! I love to have a debate with anyone, but some people don't understand how to do that. they wont accept facts as the truth and instead believe in rumour, hearsay and Chinese whispers. fine your choice, but don't proclaim that you are right when you have been wrong on many occasions. as have many people.
you haven't been on these forums half as long as others so what gives you the right to tell people not to post and go away?
perhaps the echo should start threads for normal people who support the club, oh wait they do. anytime we win a game or a positive story comes from the manager or players the doom mongers and wums disappear like a flash.
unlike some I don't tell people to go elsewhere, perhaps that's because I`m not worried that I might be found out and shown to be wrong over and over again!
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: I'm not really surprised that everybody is jumping on the Koeman bandwagon, when he was appointed I did say he was a BRILLIANT appointment and would do a GREAT job for us. Another day, another spot on prediction![/p][/quote]You do make me laugh sometimes redandy, there are a few top show ponies on here not withstanding me and you. This whole sorry episode of the off season has added a better balance to the forum and its posters. I for one celebrate the fact that you and me agreed that Osvaldo could be a good signing for us .... ooops! Another day, another spot on prediction? I'm gagging for the start of the season.[/p][/quote]I think you are spot on about the forum Mush! But let's not mince words, the happy clappers have been well and truly put in their rose tinted places. They can still be found scuttling around the forum, but they are smarting from their very wide of the mark post season predictions. I think this is where your better balance observation comes into play, the clappers can't shout anyone down anymore. Mush you should be commended for the patience and tolerance you afford them. I personally believe they should be herded onto their own "kids table" thread. The DE could feed them only POSITIVE stories, maybe alternating with the odd fairytale.[/p][/quote]HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.......that was a joke right? redandy I think you will find that whats happened is the forum is returning to normal as more and more of the moaner wums realise their doom and gloom predictions were oh so wrong. claiming you were the only one who could see all the players going is an absolute magnificently funny joke, I predicted it ffs! difference is I also said that the club could keep the players if they wanted to, see spider and J-Rod! you were the one who said they couldn't do it, so that makes you, now whats the opposite of correct? oh yes WRONG! the forum is getting back to the way it was before the self obsessed over opinionated big headed pompous fools who shout down anyone who tries to support the club and players as `happy clappers` started believing anything they read in the red tops. the constant slating of the club, the fans, the vile comments to the owner, the management, and the decisions has been astonishing from those who claim to support the club! I love to have a debate with anyone, but some people don't understand how to do that. they wont accept facts as the truth and instead believe in rumour, hearsay and Chinese whispers. fine your choice, but don't proclaim that you are right when you have been wrong on many occasions. as have many people. you haven't been on these forums half as long as others so what gives you the right to tell people not to post and go away? perhaps the echo should start threads for normal people who support the club, oh wait they do. anytime we win a game or a positive story comes from the manager or players the doom mongers and wums disappear like a flash. unlike some I don't tell people to go elsewhere, perhaps that's because I`m not worried that I might be found out and shown to be wrong over and over again! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 5

4:06pm Fri 1 Aug 14

redandy10 says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
I'm not really surprised that everybody is jumping on the Koeman bandwagon, when he was appointed I did say he was a BRILLIANT appointment and would do a GREAT job for us.

Another day, another spot on prediction!
You do make me laugh sometimes redandy, there are a few top show ponies on here not withstanding me and you. This whole sorry episode of the off season has added a better balance to the forum and its posters. I for one celebrate the fact that you and me agreed that Osvaldo could be a good signing for us .... ooops!
Another day, another spot on prediction?

I'm gagging for the start of the season.
I think you are spot on about the forum Mush! But let's not mince words, the happy clappers have been well and truly put in their rose tinted places. They can still be found scuttling around the forum, but they are smarting from their very wide of the mark post season predictions. I think this is where your better balance observation comes into play, the clappers can't shout anyone down anymore.

Mush you should be commended for the patience and tolerance you afford them. I personally believe they should be herded onto their own "kids table" thread. The DE could feed them only POSITIVE stories, maybe alternating with the odd fairytale.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.......that was a joke right?

redandy I think you will find that whats happened is the forum is returning to normal as more and more of the moaner wums realise their doom and gloom predictions were oh so wrong. claiming you were the only one who could see all the players going is an absolute magnificently funny joke, I predicted it ffs! difference is I also said that the club could keep the players if they wanted to, see spider and J-Rod!
you were the one who said they couldn't do it, so that makes you, now whats the opposite of correct? oh yes WRONG!
the forum is getting back to the way it was before the self obsessed over opinionated big headed pompous fools who shout down anyone who tries to support the club and players as `happy clappers` started believing anything they read in the red tops. the constant slating of the club, the fans, the vile comments to the owner, the management, and the decisions has been astonishing from those who claim to support the club! I love to have a debate with anyone, but some people don't understand how to do that. they wont accept facts as the truth and instead believe in rumour, hearsay and Chinese whispers. fine your choice, but don't proclaim that you are right when you have been wrong on many occasions. as have many people.
you haven't been on these forums half as long as others so what gives you the right to tell people not to post and go away?
perhaps the echo should start threads for normal people who support the club, oh wait they do. anytime we win a game or a positive story comes from the manager or players the doom mongers and wums disappear like a flash.
unlike some I don't tell people to go elsewhere, perhaps that's because I`m not worried that I might be found out and shown to be wrong over and over again!
But Adam and Luke are under contract. They're not going anywhere!
Lol
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: I'm not really surprised that everybody is jumping on the Koeman bandwagon, when he was appointed I did say he was a BRILLIANT appointment and would do a GREAT job for us. Another day, another spot on prediction![/p][/quote]You do make me laugh sometimes redandy, there are a few top show ponies on here not withstanding me and you. This whole sorry episode of the off season has added a better balance to the forum and its posters. I for one celebrate the fact that you and me agreed that Osvaldo could be a good signing for us .... ooops! Another day, another spot on prediction? I'm gagging for the start of the season.[/p][/quote]I think you are spot on about the forum Mush! But let's not mince words, the happy clappers have been well and truly put in their rose tinted places. They can still be found scuttling around the forum, but they are smarting from their very wide of the mark post season predictions. I think this is where your better balance observation comes into play, the clappers can't shout anyone down anymore. Mush you should be commended for the patience and tolerance you afford them. I personally believe they should be herded onto their own "kids table" thread. The DE could feed them only POSITIVE stories, maybe alternating with the odd fairytale.[/p][/quote]HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.......that was a joke right? redandy I think you will find that whats happened is the forum is returning to normal as more and more of the moaner wums realise their doom and gloom predictions were oh so wrong. claiming you were the only one who could see all the players going is an absolute magnificently funny joke, I predicted it ffs! difference is I also said that the club could keep the players if they wanted to, see spider and J-Rod! you were the one who said they couldn't do it, so that makes you, now whats the opposite of correct? oh yes WRONG! the forum is getting back to the way it was before the self obsessed over opinionated big headed pompous fools who shout down anyone who tries to support the club and players as `happy clappers` started believing anything they read in the red tops. the constant slating of the club, the fans, the vile comments to the owner, the management, and the decisions has been astonishing from those who claim to support the club! I love to have a debate with anyone, but some people don't understand how to do that. they wont accept facts as the truth and instead believe in rumour, hearsay and Chinese whispers. fine your choice, but don't proclaim that you are right when you have been wrong on many occasions. as have many people. you haven't been on these forums half as long as others so what gives you the right to tell people not to post and go away? perhaps the echo should start threads for normal people who support the club, oh wait they do. anytime we win a game or a positive story comes from the manager or players the doom mongers and wums disappear like a flash. unlike some I don't tell people to go elsewhere, perhaps that's because I`m not worried that I might be found out and shown to be wrong over and over again![/p][/quote]But Adam and Luke are under contract. They're not going anywhere! Lol redandy10
  • Score: -3

4:10pm Fri 1 Aug 14

jls217 says...

redandy10 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
I'm not really surprised that everybody is jumping on the Koeman bandwagon, when he was appointed I did say he was a BRILLIANT appointment and would do a GREAT job for us.

Another day, another spot on prediction!
You do make me laugh sometimes redandy, there are a few top show ponies on here not withstanding me and you. This whole sorry episode of the off season has added a better balance to the forum and its posters. I for one celebrate the fact that you and me agreed that Osvaldo could be a good signing for us .... ooops!
Another day, another spot on prediction?

I'm gagging for the start of the season.
I think you are spot on about the forum Mush! But let's not mince words, the happy clappers have been well and truly put in their rose tinted places. They can still be found scuttling around the forum, but they are smarting from their very wide of the mark post season predictions. I think this is where your better balance observation comes into play, the clappers can't shout anyone down anymore.

Mush you should be commended for the patience and tolerance you afford them. I personally believe they should be herded onto their own "kids table" thread. The DE could feed them only POSITIVE stories, maybe alternating with the odd fairytale.
Andy your mouth or your fingers in this case do seem to be runnin g ahead of your brains.

You cut a rather silly figure.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: I'm not really surprised that everybody is jumping on the Koeman bandwagon, when he was appointed I did say he was a BRILLIANT appointment and would do a GREAT job for us. Another day, another spot on prediction![/p][/quote]You do make me laugh sometimes redandy, there are a few top show ponies on here not withstanding me and you. This whole sorry episode of the off season has added a better balance to the forum and its posters. I for one celebrate the fact that you and me agreed that Osvaldo could be a good signing for us .... ooops! Another day, another spot on prediction? I'm gagging for the start of the season.[/p][/quote]I think you are spot on about the forum Mush! But let's not mince words, the happy clappers have been well and truly put in their rose tinted places. They can still be found scuttling around the forum, but they are smarting from their very wide of the mark post season predictions. I think this is where your better balance observation comes into play, the clappers can't shout anyone down anymore. Mush you should be commended for the patience and tolerance you afford them. I personally believe they should be herded onto their own "kids table" thread. The DE could feed them only POSITIVE stories, maybe alternating with the odd fairytale.[/p][/quote]Andy your mouth or your fingers in this case do seem to be runnin g ahead of your brains. You cut a rather silly figure. jls217
  • Score: 5

4:18pm Fri 1 Aug 14

miltonarcher says...

The Lemon Song by Led Zep fits Osvaldo. Led Zep, the greatest rock band of all time. Seen them twice, once in Southampton, awesome !
The Lemon Song by Led Zep fits Osvaldo. Led Zep, the greatest rock band of all time. Seen them twice, once in Southampton, awesome ! miltonarcher
  • Score: -2

4:18pm Fri 1 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
If you think about it logically, getting players in on loan is very shrewd business. Only having to pay wages without spending an enormous transfer fee until you have seen how a player performs makes a lot of sense. You wouldn,t buy a new car without a test drive.
Agree - Everton do it all the time to enter the Premiership Top Five.
COYR+WS
Yep, if there is any positive in the wealth of the big clubs it is that they have become incredibly impatient with new players and won't follow through on their development.

Lukaku is a good case in point and you could say the same about Bernard, Borini and loans of others - buy him, loan him to give him experience but when the opportunity of first team football opens up buy in a big name on big money to avoid the risk.

That all means that, even when the loan player is successful, as Lukaku has been, the club usually gets an option to buy.

Interestingly though would they simply not sell him to their rivals or did nobody else come in for him? Seems bizarre when Spurs and Liverpool need strikers.

And, does anyone know, when they say 'loan' does that usually mean there is a fee due to the loaning club?
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: If you think about it logically, getting players in on loan is very shrewd business. Only having to pay wages without spending an enormous transfer fee until you have seen how a player performs makes a lot of sense. You wouldn,t buy a new car without a test drive.[/p][/quote]Agree - Everton do it all the time to enter the Premiership Top Five. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]Yep, if there is any positive in the wealth of the big clubs it is that they have become incredibly impatient with new players and won't follow through on their development. Lukaku is a good case in point and you could say the same about Bernard, Borini and loans of others - buy him, loan him to give him experience but when the opportunity of first team football opens up buy in a big name on big money to avoid the risk. That all means that, even when the loan player is successful, as Lukaku has been, the club usually gets an option to buy. Interestingly though would they simply not sell him to their rivals or did nobody else come in for him? Seems bizarre when Spurs and Liverpool need strikers. And, does anyone know, when they say 'loan' does that usually mean there is a fee due to the loaning club? SaintJD
  • Score: 1

4:18pm Fri 1 Aug 14

redandy10 says...

jls217 wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
I'm not really surprised that everybody is jumping on the Koeman bandwagon, when he was appointed I did say he was a BRILLIANT appointment and would do a GREAT job for us.

Another day, another spot on prediction!
You do make me laugh sometimes redandy, there are a few top show ponies on here not withstanding me and you. This whole sorry episode of the off season has added a better balance to the forum and its posters. I for one celebrate the fact that you and me agreed that Osvaldo could be a good signing for us .... ooops!
Another day, another spot on prediction?

I'm gagging for the start of the season.
I think you are spot on about the forum Mush! But let's not mince words, the happy clappers have been well and truly put in their rose tinted places. They can still be found scuttling around the forum, but they are smarting from their very wide of the mark post season predictions. I think this is where your better balance observation comes into play, the clappers can't shout anyone down anymore.

Mush you should be commended for the patience and tolerance you afford them. I personally believe they should be herded onto their own "kids table" thread. The DE could feed them only POSITIVE stories, maybe alternating with the odd fairytale.
Andy your mouth or your fingers in this case do seem to be runnin g ahead of your brains.

You cut a rather silly figure.
Well coming from the boy band fan posting guff on a football forum I'll take that has high praise indeed!!!

Too easy!
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: I'm not really surprised that everybody is jumping on the Koeman bandwagon, when he was appointed I did say he was a BRILLIANT appointment and would do a GREAT job for us. Another day, another spot on prediction![/p][/quote]You do make me laugh sometimes redandy, there are a few top show ponies on here not withstanding me and you. This whole sorry episode of the off season has added a better balance to the forum and its posters. I for one celebrate the fact that you and me agreed that Osvaldo could be a good signing for us .... ooops! Another day, another spot on prediction? I'm gagging for the start of the season.[/p][/quote]I think you are spot on about the forum Mush! But let's not mince words, the happy clappers have been well and truly put in their rose tinted places. They can still be found scuttling around the forum, but they are smarting from their very wide of the mark post season predictions. I think this is where your better balance observation comes into play, the clappers can't shout anyone down anymore. Mush you should be commended for the patience and tolerance you afford them. I personally believe they should be herded onto their own "kids table" thread. The DE could feed them only POSITIVE stories, maybe alternating with the odd fairytale.[/p][/quote]Andy your mouth or your fingers in this case do seem to be runnin g ahead of your brains. You cut a rather silly figure.[/p][/quote]Well coming from the boy band fan posting guff on a football forum I'll take that has high praise indeed!!! Too easy! redandy10
  • Score: -2

4:18pm Fri 1 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Alicesdad wrote:
Osvaldo will see out his contract with us and we will lose what we paid for him. We would sell him if anyone would buy him but uits clear his reputation is killing any sale. The best we can do is get other teams to pay his wages - big lesson learned .. he is undoubtedly Les Reeds and MoPo's Ali Dia .. the lesson being don't believe everything you are told.

On a wider point - is it just my imagination or does everything suddenly feel much better? Maybe its just that Friday end of week feeling?

Given that we have a largely new team it will take a few games for them to play themselves in. We go to Liverpool with very little expectation but with a whole raft of players who are trying to prove themselves to a new manager .. but can you imagine how it will feel if we do them over on their own pitch for the second year running... what a message that would send out.

It's time to think positive !!
What planet do you operate on.

Arsevaldo was purchased
a. Because he was a name which attracted kudos and if he'd behaved himself would've become a bit of cult figure here.

b. Offered the experience to bridge the gap between a fast aging SRL a youthful strike force coming through.

c. His price was right as were his wage demands

d. Pochettino knew him, had worked with him before and there was a bit of a lovefest going on between them.

Les Reed had nothing to do with it - he was Pinchatinny's boy.

If we can't get somebody to buy him and why would they if eventually they can pick him up for nowt, the next best thing to it is to get him off the wage bill and use him as leverage for a couple of young speedsters, one capped by Algeria and the other capped by Italy (if it all comes off)
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Osvaldo will see out his contract with us and we will lose what we paid for him. We would sell him if anyone would buy him but uits clear his reputation is killing any sale. The best we can do is get other teams to pay his wages - big lesson learned .. he is undoubtedly Les Reeds and MoPo's Ali Dia .. the lesson being don't believe everything you are told. On a wider point - is it just my imagination or does everything suddenly feel much better? Maybe its just that Friday end of week feeling? Given that we have a largely new team it will take a few games for them to play themselves in. We go to Liverpool with very little expectation but with a whole raft of players who are trying to prove themselves to a new manager .. but can you imagine how it will feel if we do them over on their own pitch for the second year running... what a message that would send out. It's time to think positive !![/p][/quote]What planet do you operate on. Arsevaldo was purchased a. Because he was a name which attracted kudos and if he'd behaved himself would've become a bit of cult figure here. b. Offered the experience to bridge the gap between a fast aging SRL a youthful strike force coming through. c. His price was right as were his wage demands d. Pochettino knew him, had worked with him before and there was a bit of a lovefest going on between them. Les Reed had nothing to do with it - he was Pinchatinny's boy. If we can't get somebody to buy him and why would they if eventually they can pick him up for nowt, the next best thing to it is to get him off the wage bill and use him as leverage for a couple of young speedsters, one capped by Algeria and the other capped by Italy (if it all comes off) jls217
  • Score: 2

4:21pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Jan28th1984 says...

Taider's problem is that he has to sell his loan move to his flashy girlfriend. She will look at nights out in Milan and nights out in Southampton and I get the feeling there are going to be heated words in their luxury penthouse.
Taider's problem is that he has to sell his loan move to his flashy girlfriend. She will look at nights out in Milan and nights out in Southampton and I get the feeling there are going to be heated words in their luxury penthouse. Jan28th1984
  • Score: 1

4:24pm Fri 1 Aug 14

warrens 76 says...

SaintJD wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
It is a fact that for some5 years now we have played the ?southampton way'…every player has integrated into it and or academy system demands it..it is also the Dutch way which has been attributed to Barcelona who actually had it bought to them by Cruyff!!

Our style will not change, but for good or bad our resiliance and goalscoring might…if both work for us we could be top 6 no trouble if both work against bottom 6…if 50/50 mid table obscurity….

In the words of Mr Peter Bunting 'who can tell'.
Funny (and I'm not taking the micky here or doom mongering) but you can't help but see the slight similary between the secret of our success and the model Lowe unsuccessfully tried to adopt back in the day.

Certainly his focus on youth being the future and progressive continental style coaching has been realised through the likes of Spider and Adam and, laterly, a huge amount of players who have been filtering through the academy.

Lowe's problem of course was trying to do it a) too quickly b) with an initial manager who is the polar opposite of that model, ie, Redknapp and c) then getting the right framework but trying to implement it too quickly in totally the wrong league, with an unproven manager, and with already weary fans who frankly hate you with fairly good reason.

Some would say it has eventually worked wonders though and is the envy of the country and, say it very quietly for risk of getting the thumbs down this post will get for saying his name) he deserves a shred of credit, even if he nearly killed the club doing it.

Now the litmus test - once you've become the victim of your own success and sold, at an amazing profit - can you just kick on with the next cycle?
If it happens every other year it will be a bi-cycle.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: It is a fact that for some5 years now we have played the ?southampton way'…every player has integrated into it and or academy system demands it..it is also the Dutch way which has been attributed to Barcelona who actually had it bought to them by Cruyff!! Our style will not change, but for good or bad our resiliance and goalscoring might…if both work for us we could be top 6 no trouble if both work against bottom 6…if 50/50 mid table obscurity…. In the words of Mr Peter Bunting 'who can tell'.[/p][/quote]Funny (and I'm not taking the micky here or doom mongering) but you can't help but see the slight similary between the secret of our success and the model Lowe unsuccessfully tried to adopt back in the day. Certainly his focus on youth being the future and progressive continental style coaching has been realised through the likes of Spider and Adam and, laterly, a huge amount of players who have been filtering through the academy. Lowe's problem of course was trying to do it a) too quickly b) with an initial manager who is the polar opposite of that model, ie, Redknapp and c) then getting the right framework but trying to implement it too quickly in totally the wrong league, with an unproven manager, and with already weary fans who frankly hate you with fairly good reason. Some would say it has eventually worked wonders though and is the envy of the country and, say it very quietly for risk of getting the thumbs down this post will get for saying his name) he deserves a shred of credit, even if he nearly killed the club doing it. Now the litmus test - once you've become the victim of your own success and sold, at an amazing profit - can you just kick on with the next cycle?[/p][/quote]If it happens every other year it will be a bi-cycle. warrens 76
  • Score: 2

4:27pm Fri 1 Aug 14

jls217 says...

steekeemcglue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Why do we keep loaning him out he will be 30 after this one?

Taider sounds good, anyone now how much the option to buy is?
we will just have to accept the £12.5M hit on him as a loss. We will not sell him......
From what I could glean from the reports Seed they both come with a 5mill option at the end of the season. If they take Arsevaldo - a win/win deal.
[quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Why do we keep loaning him out he will be 30 after this one? Taider sounds good, anyone now how much the option to buy is?[/p][/quote]we will just have to accept the £12.5M hit on him as a loss. We will not sell him......[/p][/quote]From what I could glean from the reports Seed they both come with a 5mill option at the end of the season. If they take Arsevaldo - a win/win deal. jls217
  • Score: 5

4:28pm Fri 1 Aug 14

warrens 76 says...

Jan28th1984 wrote:
saints_alive wrote:
Give them 2 weeks with Fergie; give them 1 day with Clough:
In vogue and hyped managers can commit no ill???? No!! This headline is a hangover from NC and Poch. It is ultimately NC who was given carte blanche to appease Poch;s ego, to try again with an ego-fuelled numpty. The Pirate;s transfer fee and wages alone put the club further into debt. That and Gaston;s fee and lack of commitment led to Kat;s intervention. Give them 2 weeks with Fergie; give them 1 day with Clough and they will be licking trees in the New Forest out of appreciation.
What on earth are you on about?
Those managers who were as gods to the players..never mind profit and loss you did as the gaffer said..our prima donnas would soon have been licked into shape.
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saints_alive[/bold] wrote: Give them 2 weeks with Fergie; give them 1 day with Clough: In vogue and hyped managers can commit no ill???? No!! This headline is a hangover from NC and Poch. It is ultimately NC who was given carte blanche to appease Poch;s ego, to try again with an ego-fuelled numpty. The Pirate;s transfer fee and wages alone put the club further into debt. That and Gaston;s fee and lack of commitment led to Kat;s intervention. Give them 2 weeks with Fergie; give them 1 day with Clough and they will be licking trees in the New Forest out of appreciation.[/p][/quote]What on earth are you on about?[/p][/quote]Those managers who were as gods to the players..never mind profit and loss you did as the gaffer said..our prima donnas would soon have been licked into shape. warrens 76
  • Score: 0

4:41pm Fri 1 Aug 14

THE12THMAN says...

Jan28th1984 wrote:
Taider's problem is that he has to sell his loan move to his flashy girlfriend. She will look at nights out in Milan and nights out in Southampton and I get the feeling there are going to be heated words in their luxury penthouse.
He could always stay in London, it is only an hour and a half from Southampton.
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: Taider's problem is that he has to sell his loan move to his flashy girlfriend. She will look at nights out in Milan and nights out in Southampton and I get the feeling there are going to be heated words in their luxury penthouse.[/p][/quote]He could always stay in London, it is only an hour and a half from Southampton. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 3

4:44pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Jan28th1984 wrote:
Taider's problem is that he has to sell his loan move to his flashy girlfriend. She will look at nights out in Milan and nights out in Southampton and I get the feeling there are going to be heated words in their luxury penthouse.
That's a bit hard on the Concorde Club!
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: Taider's problem is that he has to sell his loan move to his flashy girlfriend. She will look at nights out in Milan and nights out in Southampton and I get the feeling there are going to be heated words in their luxury penthouse.[/p][/quote]That's a bit hard on the Concorde Club! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

4:52pm Fri 1 Aug 14

St Van Roetford says...

redandy10 wrote:
jls217 wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
I'm not really surprised that everybody is jumping on the Koeman bandwagon, when he was appointed I did say he was a BRILLIANT appointment and would do a GREAT job for us.

Another day, another spot on prediction!
You do make me laugh sometimes redandy, there are a few top show ponies on here not withstanding me and you. This whole sorry episode of the off season has added a better balance to the forum and its posters. I for one celebrate the fact that you and me agreed that Osvaldo could be a good signing for us .... ooops!
Another day, another spot on prediction?

I'm gagging for the start of the season.
I think you are spot on about the forum Mush! But let's not mince words, the happy clappers have been well and truly put in their rose tinted places. They can still be found scuttling around the forum, but they are smarting from their very wide of the mark post season predictions. I think this is where your better balance observation comes into play, the clappers can't shout anyone down anymore.

Mush you should be commended for the patience and tolerance you afford them. I personally believe they should be herded onto their own "kids table" thread. The DE could feed them only POSITIVE stories, maybe alternating with the odd fairytale.
Andy your mouth or your fingers in this case do seem to be runnin g ahead of your brains.

You cut a rather silly figure.
Well coming from the boy band fan posting guff on a football forum I'll take that has high praise indeed!!!

Too easy!
Andy, don't take this the wrong way but you do seem a little unhinged.

Is everything ok?
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: I'm not really surprised that everybody is jumping on the Koeman bandwagon, when he was appointed I did say he was a BRILLIANT appointment and would do a GREAT job for us. Another day, another spot on prediction![/p][/quote]You do make me laugh sometimes redandy, there are a few top show ponies on here not withstanding me and you. This whole sorry episode of the off season has added a better balance to the forum and its posters. I for one celebrate the fact that you and me agreed that Osvaldo could be a good signing for us .... ooops! Another day, another spot on prediction? I'm gagging for the start of the season.[/p][/quote]I think you are spot on about the forum Mush! But let's not mince words, the happy clappers have been well and truly put in their rose tinted places. They can still be found scuttling around the forum, but they are smarting from their very wide of the mark post season predictions. I think this is where your better balance observation comes into play, the clappers can't shout anyone down anymore. Mush you should be commended for the patience and tolerance you afford them. I personally believe they should be herded onto their own "kids table" thread. The DE could feed them only POSITIVE stories, maybe alternating with the odd fairytale.[/p][/quote]Andy your mouth or your fingers in this case do seem to be runnin g ahead of your brains. You cut a rather silly figure.[/p][/quote]Well coming from the boy band fan posting guff on a football forum I'll take that has high praise indeed!!! Too easy![/p][/quote]Andy, don't take this the wrong way but you do seem a little unhinged. Is everything ok? St Van Roetford
  • Score: 0

4:52pm Fri 1 Aug 14

deepheat says...

Within the last hour.

"Portuguese daily Record claim that Sporting have rejected a €14m bid from Southampton for left-back and Rabona enthusiast Marcos Rojo.

Rojos is eager to move, and Sporting are willing to sell, but for no less than €18m for the 24 year-old.

Over to Southampton to see if they’re willing to table a second improved bid; they’re not exactly short of cash this summer".

Give them the money Les, FFS.
Within the last hour. "Portuguese daily Record claim that Sporting have rejected a €14m bid from Southampton for left-back and Rabona enthusiast Marcos Rojo. Rojos is eager to move, and Sporting are willing to sell, but for no less than €18m for the 24 year-old. Over to Southampton to see if they’re willing to table a second improved bid; they’re not exactly short of cash this summer". Give them the money Les, FFS. deepheat
  • Score: 4

4:52pm Fri 1 Aug 14

jls217 says...

The Inter players seem to think it's a done deal and they really want Arsevaldo in.

nterviewed exclusively by SkySport, the new Inter winger analyzed the match against his former team and focused on the coaches. He also made a quick analysis on a player getting closer to the Inter dressing room, without leaving a comment on the Giallorossi making a particular comparison. The words of the Brazilian Dodò about the parallel between Walter Mazzarri and Rudi Garcia, coach of Roma: “When I met the Frenchman he was in the first year in the Italian league and didn’t know the language very well. Mazzarri, however, is a sophomore here at Inter and knows Italian football. Regarding the management of the team I must say that I have found some differences.” Pablo Daniel Osvaldo, for which only the official announcement is missing: “He can give a lot to the team. He’s an attacker that scores a lot and has fanastic feet. He definitely will give us a hand.” A test against Roma, for a return to the past: “It will be a bit weird. To make a comparison it will be like seeing your ex-girlfriend, shortly after the end of the relationship, with someone else. A strange feeling, perhaps a little tough beginning. But I’ll be prepared for the match in the championship.” On the defense of 3 and adapting to this new formation: “I had never played with a three-man defense in my career, but I’m learning. I have always played with 4 and I love it, but I’m learning. I have to play a little lower, but with the help of my teammates I can do well with this formation. Difficult to cover the whole side? When my teammates help me, like Juan in defense or Krhin, Kuz and Obi in midfield it’s easier.” On the fight for the top, even with Osvaldo, “Why not? Last year with Roma at the beginning no one thought we could fight and we made it to the end. Hence the ten rounds will be important to see who can go far in the end.” Source: fcinternews.it
The Inter players seem to think it's a done deal and they really want Arsevaldo in. nterviewed exclusively by SkySport, the new Inter winger analyzed the match against his former team and focused on the coaches. He also made a quick analysis on a player getting closer to the Inter dressing room, without leaving a comment on the Giallorossi making a particular comparison. The words of the Brazilian Dodò about the parallel between Walter Mazzarri and Rudi Garcia, coach of Roma: “When I met the Frenchman he was in the first year in the Italian league and didn’t know the language very well. Mazzarri, however, is a sophomore here at Inter and knows Italian football. Regarding the management of the team I must say that I have found some differences.” Pablo Daniel Osvaldo, for which only the official announcement is missing: “He can give a lot to the team. He’s an attacker that scores a lot and has fanastic feet. He definitely will give us a hand.” A test against Roma, for a return to the past: “It will be a bit weird. To make a comparison it will be like seeing your ex-girlfriend, shortly after the end of the relationship, with someone else. A strange feeling, perhaps a little tough beginning. But I’ll be prepared for the match in the championship.” On the defense of 3 and adapting to this new formation: “I had never played with a three-man defense in my career, but I’m learning. I have always played with 4 and I love it, but I’m learning. I have to play a little lower, but with the help of my teammates I can do well with this formation. Difficult to cover the whole side? When my teammates help me, like Juan in defense or Krhin, Kuz and Obi in midfield it’s easier.” On the fight for the top, even with Osvaldo, “Why not? Last year with Roma at the beginning no one thought we could fight and we made it to the end. Hence the ten rounds will be important to see who can go far in the end.” Source: fcinternews.it jls217
  • Score: 0

4:57pm Fri 1 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Southampton boss Ronald Koeman has confirmed that record signing Dani Osvaldo could join Inter in a swap deal with Saphir Taider.

Goal reported on Wednesday that the two players are set to switch clubs, with the Serie A side hopeful of agreeing personal terms with the striker soon.

Taider is a box-to-box central midfielder who went to the World Cup finals with Algeria and played two games in Brazil, while Koeman is also willing to take 34-year-old defender Hugo Campagnaro as part of any deal.

"We are looking for the best for Osvaldo and the best for the club," Koeman told BBC Radio Solent.

"Taider brings quality and we need that. We need competition in the squad as well and that will be good."

The Dutchman stated that Southampton are closing in on three new signings after losing Rickie Lambert, Luke Shaw, Adam Lallana, Dejan Lovren and Calum Chambers.

"We hope to do that this weekend and then we have two weeks still to prepare for the Liverpool game," said the former Netherlands defender.
Southampton boss Ronald Koeman has confirmed that record signing Dani Osvaldo could join Inter in a swap deal with Saphir Taider. Goal reported on Wednesday that the two players are set to switch clubs, with the Serie A side hopeful of agreeing personal terms with the striker soon. Taider is a box-to-box central midfielder who went to the World Cup finals with Algeria and played two games in Brazil, while Koeman is also willing to take 34-year-old defender Hugo Campagnaro as part of any deal. "We are looking for the best for Osvaldo and the best for the club," Koeman told BBC Radio Solent. "Taider brings quality and we need that. We need competition in the squad as well and that will be good." The Dutchman stated that Southampton are closing in on three new signings after losing Rickie Lambert, Luke Shaw, Adam Lallana, Dejan Lovren and Calum Chambers. "We hope to do that this weekend and then we have two weeks still to prepare for the Liverpool game," said the former Netherlands defender. jls217
  • Score: 2

4:58pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Jan28th1984 says...

THE12THMAN wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
Taider's problem is that he has to sell his loan move to his flashy girlfriend. She will look at nights out in Milan and nights out in Southampton and I get the feeling there are going to be heated words in their luxury penthouse.
He could always stay in London, it is only an hour and a half from Southampton.
Yea - fair point.
[quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: Taider's problem is that he has to sell his loan move to his flashy girlfriend. She will look at nights out in Milan and nights out in Southampton and I get the feeling there are going to be heated words in their luxury penthouse.[/p][/quote]He could always stay in London, it is only an hour and a half from Southampton.[/p][/quote]Yea - fair point. Jan28th1984
  • Score: 1

4:59pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Jan28th1984 says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
Taider's problem is that he has to sell his loan move to his flashy girlfriend. She will look at nights out in Milan and nights out in Southampton and I get the feeling there are going to be heated words in their luxury penthouse.
That's a bit hard on the Concorde Club!
lol
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: Taider's problem is that he has to sell his loan move to his flashy girlfriend. She will look at nights out in Milan and nights out in Southampton and I get the feeling there are going to be heated words in their luxury penthouse.[/p][/quote]That's a bit hard on the Concorde Club![/p][/quote]lol Jan28th1984
  • Score: 0

5:01pm Fri 1 Aug 14

jls217 says...

According to METRO we've placed a bid for ROJO - anybody got any updates?
Also the Mail says we've place a bid for Herndandez!
According to METRO we've placed a bid for ROJO - anybody got any updates? Also the Mail says we've place a bid for Herndandez! jls217
  • Score: 0

5:03pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Jan28th1984 says...

deepheat wrote:
Within the last hour.

"Portuguese daily Record claim that Sporting have rejected a €14m bid from Southampton for left-back and Rabona enthusiast Marcos Rojo.

Rojos is eager to move, and Sporting are willing to sell, but for no less than €18m for the 24 year-old.

Over to Southampton to see if they’re willing to table a second improved bid; they’re not exactly short of cash this summer".

Give them the money Les, FFS.
Too right! We've screwed the vulture clubs, we can spare a few mil here and there.
Stop haggling and get on with it.
[quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: Within the last hour. "Portuguese daily Record claim that Sporting have rejected a €14m bid from Southampton for left-back and Rabona enthusiast Marcos Rojo. Rojos is eager to move, and Sporting are willing to sell, but for no less than €18m for the 24 year-old. Over to Southampton to see if they’re willing to table a second improved bid; they’re not exactly short of cash this summer". Give them the money Les, FFS.[/p][/quote]Too right! We've screwed the vulture clubs, we can spare a few mil here and there. Stop haggling and get on with it. Jan28th1984
  • Score: 2

5:04pm Fri 1 Aug 14

jls217 says...

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Saints to battle it out with Inter for United's Hernandez
Manchester United’s Javier is set to leave the club this summer (Picture: AFP/Getty Images)
Southampton will reportedly have to battle it out with Inter Milan for the signature of transfer target Javier Hernandez.

The St Mary’s outfit were believed to be keen on recruiting the Manchester United forward this summer with Hernandez considering his future at Old Trafford following his lack of starting berths at the club last term.

According to The Mail, Southampton would be able to offer United more money up front than Inter for the Mexico international, but, will face tough competition to land Hernandez because the player wants to play European football next season – something that the Italian club could offer.

The publication claims that new Saints manager, Ronald Koeman, first enquired about Hernandez when Southampton held talks with United for Luke Shaw in June.

Saints to battle it out with Inter for United's Hernandez
Javier Hernandez has struggled to hold down a starting place at Manchester United (Picture: Getty Images)
La Liga champions Atletico Madrid have also targeted Hernandez this summer – with coach Diego Simeone recently confirming that Los Rojiblancos were working on a deal to bring the striker to the Vicente Calderon next season.

However, Serie A outfit Inter could be now be favourites to finalise a transfer for Hernandez in the coming weeks with the Italian club reportedly ready to offer Fredy Guarin as part of the deal.

Hernandez – who is currently playing for United in their pre-season tour of the US – has scored 37 Premier League goals since arriving from Mexico in 2010.

Can't see Saints winning this one but stranger things have happened.
Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Saints to battle it out with Inter for United's Hernandez Manchester United’s Javier is set to leave the club this summer (Picture: AFP/Getty Images) Southampton will reportedly have to battle it out with Inter Milan for the signature of transfer target Javier Hernandez. The St Mary’s outfit were believed to be keen on recruiting the Manchester United forward this summer with Hernandez considering his future at Old Trafford following his lack of starting berths at the club last term. According to The Mail, Southampton would be able to offer United more money up front than Inter for the Mexico international, but, will face tough competition to land Hernandez because the player wants to play European football next season – something that the Italian club could offer. The publication claims that new Saints manager, Ronald Koeman, first enquired about Hernandez when Southampton held talks with United for Luke Shaw in June. Saints to battle it out with Inter for United's Hernandez Javier Hernandez has struggled to hold down a starting place at Manchester United (Picture: Getty Images) La Liga champions Atletico Madrid have also targeted Hernandez this summer – with coach Diego Simeone recently confirming that Los Rojiblancos were working on a deal to bring the striker to the Vicente Calderon next season. However, Serie A outfit Inter could be now be favourites to finalise a transfer for Hernandez in the coming weeks with the Italian club reportedly ready to offer Fredy Guarin as part of the deal. Hernandez – who is currently playing for United in their pre-season tour of the US – has scored 37 Premier League goals since arriving from Mexico in 2010. Can't see Saints winning this one but stranger things have happened. jls217
  • Score: 2

5:04pm Fri 1 Aug 14

redsnapper says...

Well the end of this week feels better than this time last week.

Pluses .we still have Morgan and a couple of newbies. Ronko is more visible, Les less so. Good performance last night. More talent emerging onto the bus from the nursery school.

Minuses. Les Reed and that kin idiot Lowe opening his stupid public school trap. And the stupid stupid Echo articles which treat our supporters as if we are Skates.

COYR ..definitely not FUBAR
Well the end of this week feels better than this time last week. Pluses .we still have Morgan and a couple of newbies. Ronko is more visible, Les less so. Good performance last night. More talent emerging onto the bus from the nursery school. Minuses. Les Reed and that kin idiot Lowe opening his stupid public school trap. And the stupid stupid Echo articles which treat our supporters as if we are Skates. COYR ..definitely not FUBAR redsnapper
  • Score: -1

5:04pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
saints_alive wrote:
Give them 2 weeks with Fergie; give them 1 day with Clough:
In vogue and hyped managers can commit no ill???? No!! This headline is a hangover from NC and Poch. It is ultimately NC who was given carte blanche to appease Poch;s ego, to try again with an ego-fuelled numpty. The Pirate;s transfer fee and wages alone put the club further into debt. That and Gaston;s fee and lack of commitment led to Kat;s intervention. Give them 2 weeks with Fergie; give them 1 day with Clough and they will be licking trees in the New Forest out of appreciation.
What on earth are you on about?
Those managers who were as gods to the players..never mind profit and loss you did as the gaffer said..our prima donnas would soon have been licked into shape.
McMenemy never took any cr@p either, but then he also knew how to man manage rascals too.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saints_alive[/bold] wrote: Give them 2 weeks with Fergie; give them 1 day with Clough: In vogue and hyped managers can commit no ill???? No!! This headline is a hangover from NC and Poch. It is ultimately NC who was given carte blanche to appease Poch;s ego, to try again with an ego-fuelled numpty. The Pirate;s transfer fee and wages alone put the club further into debt. That and Gaston;s fee and lack of commitment led to Kat;s intervention. Give them 2 weeks with Fergie; give them 1 day with Clough and they will be licking trees in the New Forest out of appreciation.[/p][/quote]What on earth are you on about?[/p][/quote]Those managers who were as gods to the players..never mind profit and loss you did as the gaffer said..our prima donnas would soon have been licked into shape.[/p][/quote]McMenemy never took any cr@p either, but then he also knew how to man manage rascals too. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 3

5:06pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Jan28th1984 says...

jls217 wrote:
According to METRO we've placed a bid for ROJO - anybody got any updates?
Also the Mail says we've place a bid for Herndandez!
Before this transfer window started I would have taken anything the Mail said with a pinch of salt.
Now, after everything the Mail said would happen, happened, I am more inclined to believe what they say.

Rojo looks a good purchase - young and versatile - can play LB or CB, get him in.

Nothing will come of Hernandez, though. We may be interested in him, but he sure isn't interested in us! :-D
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: According to METRO we've placed a bid for ROJO - anybody got any updates? Also the Mail says we've place a bid for Herndandez![/p][/quote]Before this transfer window started I would have taken anything the Mail said with a pinch of salt. Now, after everything the Mail said would happen, happened, I am more inclined to believe what they say. Rojo looks a good purchase - young and versatile - can play LB or CB, get him in. Nothing will come of Hernandez, though. We may be interested in him, but he sure isn't interested in us! :-D Jan28th1984
  • Score: 0

5:13pm Fri 1 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

jls217 wrote:
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Saints to battle it out with Inter for United's Hernandez
Manchester United’s Javier is set to leave the club this summer (Picture: AFP/Getty Images)
Southampton will reportedly have to battle it out with Inter Milan for the signature of transfer target Javier Hernandez.

The St Mary’s outfit were believed to be keen on recruiting the Manchester United forward this summer with Hernandez considering his future at Old Trafford following his lack of starting berths at the club last term.

According to The Mail, Southampton would be able to offer United more money up front than Inter for the Mexico international, but, will face tough competition to land Hernandez because the player wants to play European football next season – something that the Italian club could offer.

The publication claims that new Saints manager, Ronald Koeman, first enquired about Hernandez when Southampton held talks with United for Luke Shaw in June.

Saints to battle it out with Inter for United's Hernandez
Javier Hernandez has struggled to hold down a starting place at Manchester United (Picture: Getty Images)
La Liga champions Atletico Madrid have also targeted Hernandez this summer – with coach Diego Simeone recently confirming that Los Rojiblancos were working on a deal to bring the striker to the Vicente Calderon next season.

However, Serie A outfit Inter could be now be favourites to finalise a transfer for Hernandez in the coming weeks with the Italian club reportedly ready to offer Fredy Guarin as part of the deal.

Hernandez – who is currently playing for United in their pre-season tour of the US – has scored 37 Premier League goals since arriving from Mexico in 2010.

Can't see Saints winning this one but stranger things have happened.
Can we buy him and then loan him out to them in exchange for even more players? Or maybe loan back Osvaldo from his loan?

Seriously though, I don't really want Hernandez here. If he comes clearly I'll be excited from a 'big name' point of view, but Remy, Bony or Benteke, or Campbell from Arsenal would please me a lot more if you are talking big name players. However, I fear Hernandez and the first two should be left well alone for agent trouble (getting them linked with all and sundry if we showed any kind of interest) and crazy wage demands apart from anything else.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Saints to battle it out with Inter for United's Hernandez Manchester United’s Javier is set to leave the club this summer (Picture: AFP/Getty Images) Southampton will reportedly have to battle it out with Inter Milan for the signature of transfer target Javier Hernandez. The St Mary’s outfit were believed to be keen on recruiting the Manchester United forward this summer with Hernandez considering his future at Old Trafford following his lack of starting berths at the club last term. According to The Mail, Southampton would be able to offer United more money up front than Inter for the Mexico international, but, will face tough competition to land Hernandez because the player wants to play European football next season – something that the Italian club could offer. The publication claims that new Saints manager, Ronald Koeman, first enquired about Hernandez when Southampton held talks with United for Luke Shaw in June. Saints to battle it out with Inter for United's Hernandez Javier Hernandez has struggled to hold down a starting place at Manchester United (Picture: Getty Images) La Liga champions Atletico Madrid have also targeted Hernandez this summer – with coach Diego Simeone recently confirming that Los Rojiblancos were working on a deal to bring the striker to the Vicente Calderon next season. However, Serie A outfit Inter could be now be favourites to finalise a transfer for Hernandez in the coming weeks with the Italian club reportedly ready to offer Fredy Guarin as part of the deal. Hernandez – who is currently playing for United in their pre-season tour of the US – has scored 37 Premier League goals since arriving from Mexico in 2010. Can't see Saints winning this one but stranger things have happened.[/p][/quote]Can we buy him and then loan him out to them in exchange for even more players? Or maybe loan back Osvaldo from his loan? Seriously though, I don't really want Hernandez here. If he comes clearly I'll be excited from a 'big name' point of view, but Remy, Bony or Benteke, or Campbell from Arsenal would please me a lot more if you are talking big name players. However, I fear Hernandez and the first two should be left well alone for agent trouble (getting them linked with all and sundry if we showed any kind of interest) and crazy wage demands apart from anything else. SaintJD
  • Score: 2

5:20pm Fri 1 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

jls217 wrote:
Southampton boss Ronald Koeman has confirmed that record signing Dani Osvaldo could join Inter in a swap deal with Saphir Taider.

Goal reported on Wednesday that the two players are set to switch clubs, with the Serie A side hopeful of agreeing personal terms with the striker soon.

Taider is a box-to-box central midfielder who went to the World Cup finals with Algeria and played two games in Brazil, while Koeman is also willing to take 34-year-old defender Hugo Campagnaro as part of any deal.

"We are looking for the best for Osvaldo and the best for the club," Koeman told BBC Radio Solent.

"Taider brings quality and we need that. We need competition in the squad as well and that will be good."

The Dutchman stated that Southampton are closing in on three new signings after losing Rickie Lambert, Luke Shaw, Adam Lallana, Dejan Lovren and Calum Chambers.

"We hope to do that this weekend and then we have two weeks still to prepare for the Liverpool game," said the former Netherlands defender.
Obviously trust Ron's judgement, but a 34 year old who's used to the pace in Italy doesn't seem ideal when you have Jose and Hoover as potential partners. I think they should just give us a player size lucky bag and we'll see what we end up with.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Southampton boss Ronald Koeman has confirmed that record signing Dani Osvaldo could join Inter in a swap deal with Saphir Taider. Goal reported on Wednesday that the two players are set to switch clubs, with the Serie A side hopeful of agreeing personal terms with the striker soon. Taider is a box-to-box central midfielder who went to the World Cup finals with Algeria and played two games in Brazil, while Koeman is also willing to take 34-year-old defender Hugo Campagnaro as part of any deal. "We are looking for the best for Osvaldo and the best for the club," Koeman told BBC Radio Solent. "Taider brings quality and we need that. We need competition in the squad as well and that will be good." The Dutchman stated that Southampton are closing in on three new signings after losing Rickie Lambert, Luke Shaw, Adam Lallana, Dejan Lovren and Calum Chambers. "We hope to do that this weekend and then we have two weeks still to prepare for the Liverpool game," said the former Netherlands defender.[/p][/quote]Obviously trust Ron's judgement, but a 34 year old who's used to the pace in Italy doesn't seem ideal when you have Jose and Hoover as potential partners. I think they should just give us a player size lucky bag and we'll see what we end up with. SaintJD
  • Score: 1

5:21pm Fri 1 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

SaintJD wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Southampton boss Ronald Koeman has confirmed that record signing Dani Osvaldo could join Inter in a swap deal with Saphir Taider.

Goal reported on Wednesday that the two players are set to switch clubs, with the Serie A side hopeful of agreeing personal terms with the striker soon.

Taider is a box-to-box central midfielder who went to the World Cup finals with Algeria and played two games in Brazil, while Koeman is also willing to take 34-year-old defender Hugo Campagnaro as part of any deal.

"We are looking for the best for Osvaldo and the best for the club," Koeman told BBC Radio Solent.

"Taider brings quality and we need that. We need competition in the squad as well and that will be good."

The Dutchman stated that Southampton are closing in on three new signings after losing Rickie Lambert, Luke Shaw, Adam Lallana, Dejan Lovren and Calum Chambers.

"We hope to do that this weekend and then we have two weeks still to prepare for the Liverpool game," said the former Netherlands defender.
Obviously trust Ron's judgement, but a 34 year old who's used to the pace in Italy doesn't seem ideal when you have Jose and Hoover as potential partners. I think they should just give us a player size lucky bag and we'll see what we end up with.
Thinking about it - can't we offer them Hoover as their own little Brucey bonus? Seems unfair to receive and not give anything back.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Southampton boss Ronald Koeman has confirmed that record signing Dani Osvaldo could join Inter in a swap deal with Saphir Taider. Goal reported on Wednesday that the two players are set to switch clubs, with the Serie A side hopeful of agreeing personal terms with the striker soon. Taider is a box-to-box central midfielder who went to the World Cup finals with Algeria and played two games in Brazil, while Koeman is also willing to take 34-year-old defender Hugo Campagnaro as part of any deal. "We are looking for the best for Osvaldo and the best for the club," Koeman told BBC Radio Solent. "Taider brings quality and we need that. We need competition in the squad as well and that will be good." The Dutchman stated that Southampton are closing in on three new signings after losing Rickie Lambert, Luke Shaw, Adam Lallana, Dejan Lovren and Calum Chambers. "We hope to do that this weekend and then we have two weeks still to prepare for the Liverpool game," said the former Netherlands defender.[/p][/quote]Obviously trust Ron's judgement, but a 34 year old who's used to the pace in Italy doesn't seem ideal when you have Jose and Hoover as potential partners. I think they should just give us a player size lucky bag and we'll see what we end up with.[/p][/quote]Thinking about it - can't we offer them Hoover as their own little Brucey bonus? Seems unfair to receive and not give anything back. SaintJD
  • Score: 1

5:29pm Fri 1 Aug 14

allstar says...

4/1 Southampton to be relegated 2014/2015 season on paddy power ,Well worth a punt
4/1 Southampton to be relegated 2014/2015 season on paddy power ,Well worth a punt allstar
  • Score: -13

5:59pm Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

allstar wrote:
4/1 Southampton to be relegated 2014/2015 season on paddy power ,Well worth a punt
Put your tatty little skunt house on it then you kn@b and end up homeless
[quote][p][bold]allstar[/bold] wrote: 4/1 Southampton to be relegated 2014/2015 season on paddy power ,Well worth a punt[/p][/quote]Put your tatty little skunt house on it then you kn@b and end up homeless J7junctionseven
  • Score: 8

6:06pm Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
saints_alive wrote:
Give them 2 weeks with Fergie; give them 1 day with Clough:
In vogue and hyped managers can commit no ill???? No!! This headline is a hangover from NC and Poch. It is ultimately NC who was given carte blanche to appease Poch;s ego, to try again with an ego-fuelled numpty. The Pirate;s transfer fee and wages alone put the club further into debt. That and Gaston;s fee and lack of commitment led to Kat;s intervention. Give them 2 weeks with Fergie; give them 1 day with Clough and they will be licking trees in the New Forest out of appreciation.
What on earth are you on about?
Those managers who were as gods to the players..never mind profit and loss you did as the gaffer said..our prima donnas would soon have been licked into shape.
McMenemy never took any cr@p either, but then he also knew how to man manage rascals too.
A lot different in those days. Manager to player was the norm. Now it's manger, chairman, agent, part owners of a share in player, add ons etc etc etc.
Mc Menemy was a "here's a new pair of boots, a pint and smoke if you want it and £x amount of dough under a grand a week type of manager"
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saints_alive[/bold] wrote: Give them 2 weeks with Fergie; give them 1 day with Clough: In vogue and hyped managers can commit no ill???? No!! This headline is a hangover from NC and Poch. It is ultimately NC who was given carte blanche to appease Poch;s ego, to try again with an ego-fuelled numpty. The Pirate;s transfer fee and wages alone put the club further into debt. That and Gaston;s fee and lack of commitment led to Kat;s intervention. Give them 2 weeks with Fergie; give them 1 day with Clough and they will be licking trees in the New Forest out of appreciation.[/p][/quote]What on earth are you on about?[/p][/quote]Those managers who were as gods to the players..never mind profit and loss you did as the gaffer said..our prima donnas would soon have been licked into shape.[/p][/quote]McMenemy never took any cr@p either, but then he also knew how to man manage rascals too.[/p][/quote]A lot different in those days. Manager to player was the norm. Now it's manger, chairman, agent, part owners of a share in player, add ons etc etc etc. Mc Menemy was a "here's a new pair of boots, a pint and smoke if you want it and £x amount of dough under a grand a week type of manager" J7junctionseven
  • Score: 1

6:07pm Fri 1 Aug 14

The stripes says...

allstar wrote:
4/1 Southampton to be relegated 2014/2015 season on paddy power ,Well worth a punt
Why is it worth a punt?
[quote][p][bold]allstar[/bold] wrote: 4/1 Southampton to be relegated 2014/2015 season on paddy power ,Well worth a punt[/p][/quote]Why is it worth a punt? The stripes
  • Score: 2

6:10pm Fri 1 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

The stripes wrote:
allstar wrote:
4/1 Southampton to be relegated 2014/2015 season on paddy power ,Well worth a punt
Why is it worth a punt?
Because he's a skunt and craving a bit of attention.
Ignore the pr1ck and he'll disappear
[quote][p][bold]The stripes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allstar[/bold] wrote: 4/1 Southampton to be relegated 2014/2015 season on paddy power ,Well worth a punt[/p][/quote]Why is it worth a punt?[/p][/quote]Because he's a skunt and craving a bit of attention. Ignore the pr1ck and he'll disappear J7junctionseven
  • Score: 2

6:15pm Fri 1 Aug 14

The stripes says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
The stripes wrote:
allstar wrote:
4/1 Southampton to be relegated 2014/2015 season on paddy power ,Well worth a punt
Why is it worth a punt?
Because he's a skunt and craving a bit of attention.
Ignore the pr1ck and he'll disappear
Was just playin' :)
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The stripes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allstar[/bold] wrote: 4/1 Southampton to be relegated 2014/2015 season on paddy power ,Well worth a punt[/p][/quote]Why is it worth a punt?[/p][/quote]Because he's a skunt and craving a bit of attention. Ignore the pr1ck and he'll disappear[/p][/quote]Was just playin' :) The stripes
  • Score: 0

6:20pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Gormzzz says...

Obviously, anything for Osvaldo is good business, lets face it we'll never sell the guy unless we take 3 million. I would have preferred somebody in a different position though, how many central midfielders do we need and is he better than what we have: Schneiderlin (if he stays, if not like the press have stated, I really wouldn't mind Clasie) JWP, Wanyama, Cork, Reed, Davis.. That's actually the order I rate them in too.. Wouldn't mind Rojo at left back if possible, I would have preferred to see Targett start every game over taking Bertrand on loan but that's just me.. We should have brought Rojo and loaned a back up RB.. Would have loved to have signed Eric Dier for £4mill, young and english with a huge potential as well as a more established name like Vlaar. Hope Taider and Fer are just speculation, I'd rather sign Clasie or just stick with the bunch of guys we have. I know you'll all have a moan about this comment but I thought I'd use this site for what it's for and give my opinion.
Obviously, anything for Osvaldo is good business, lets face it we'll never sell the guy unless we take 3 million. I would have preferred somebody in a different position though, how many central midfielders do we need and is he better than what we have: Schneiderlin (if he stays, if not like the press have stated, I really wouldn't mind Clasie) JWP, Wanyama, Cork, Reed, Davis.. That's actually the order I rate them in too.. Wouldn't mind Rojo at left back if possible, I would have preferred to see Targett start every game over taking Bertrand on loan but that's just me.. We should have brought Rojo and loaned a back up RB.. Would have loved to have signed Eric Dier for £4mill, young and english with a huge potential as well as a more established name like Vlaar. Hope Taider and Fer are just speculation, I'd rather sign Clasie or just stick with the bunch of guys we have. I know you'll all have a moan about this comment but I thought I'd use this site for what it's for and give my opinion. Gormzzz
  • Score: -2

6:24pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Gormzzz says...

I guess I'd just rather see players like JWP and Reed get more games because lets face it, this guy isn't taking Schneiderlin or Wanyama's places, probably not even Corks, I feel we're just taking him because it's better than nothing for Osvaldo, it doesn't strengthen us in my opinion, it'll just stop JWP and Reed getting games off the bench.
I guess I'd just rather see players like JWP and Reed get more games because lets face it, this guy isn't taking Schneiderlin or Wanyama's places, probably not even Corks, I feel we're just taking him because it's better than nothing for Osvaldo, it doesn't strengthen us in my opinion, it'll just stop JWP and Reed getting games off the bench. Gormzzz
  • Score: -1

6:48pm Fri 1 Aug 14

echo1948 says...

Gormzzz wrote:
I guess I'd just rather see players like JWP and Reed get more games because lets face it, this guy isn't taking Schneiderlin or Wanyama's places, probably not even Corks, I feel we're just taking him because it's better than nothing for Osvaldo, it doesn't strengthen us in my opinion, it'll just stop JWP and Reed getting games off the bench.
I can see what you are saying, but this guy is only coming in on loan at the moment, If he is not up to scratch he won,t get a regular team place,so the likes of reed and JWP will still be in the frame. Any way, despite what Kruger says there is still a possibility that Spiderman could go so that would give a 1st team place for one of the others. Anyway you still need a mixture of experience and youth, so you don,t throw your younger players in at the deep end until they have learned the ropes.
[quote][p][bold]Gormzzz[/bold] wrote: I guess I'd just rather see players like JWP and Reed get more games because lets face it, this guy isn't taking Schneiderlin or Wanyama's places, probably not even Corks, I feel we're just taking him because it's better than nothing for Osvaldo, it doesn't strengthen us in my opinion, it'll just stop JWP and Reed getting games off the bench.[/p][/quote]I can see what you are saying, but this guy is only coming in on loan at the moment, If he is not up to scratch he won,t get a regular team place,so the likes of reed and JWP will still be in the frame. Any way, despite what Kruger says there is still a possibility that Spiderman could go so that would give a 1st team place for one of the others. Anyway you still need a mixture of experience and youth, so you don,t throw your younger players in at the deep end until they have learned the ropes. echo1948
  • Score: -1

6:59pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Pooley says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
Ronko is Robert Fripp and Mopo is Mick Ronson etc...
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]Ronko is Robert Fripp and Mopo is Mick Ronson etc... Pooley
  • Score: 1

7:02pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Gormzzz says...

echo1948 wrote:
Gormzzz wrote:
I guess I'd just rather see players like JWP and Reed get more games because lets face it, this guy isn't taking Schneiderlin or Wanyama's places, probably not even Corks, I feel we're just taking him because it's better than nothing for Osvaldo, it doesn't strengthen us in my opinion, it'll just stop JWP and Reed getting games off the bench.
I can see what you are saying, but this guy is only coming in on loan at the moment, If he is not up to scratch he won,t get a regular team place,so the likes of reed and JWP will still be in the frame. Any way, despite what Kruger says there is still a possibility that Spiderman could go so that would give a 1st team place for one of the others. Anyway you still need a mixture of experience and youth, so you don,t throw your younger players in at the deep end until they have learned the ropes.
Yeah I get what your saying, I'm still hoping that if Schneiderlin does go then it's Clasie who comes in. He's just the sort of player we need.. If we managed to buy Hernandez, Clasie, Vlaar, Rojo along with Tadic then we'd pretty much have replaced those who have left plus have an extra right winger in Tadic as I see Clasie as more of the out and out playmaker.. I just think we need players like that in the first team, obviously i don't know how they'd do as I don't think theres enough time to gel but surely a team with those players must at least finish mid table. We'd have great players and the board will have the extra money as they obviously need it.
[quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gormzzz[/bold] wrote: I guess I'd just rather see players like JWP and Reed get more games because lets face it, this guy isn't taking Schneiderlin or Wanyama's places, probably not even Corks, I feel we're just taking him because it's better than nothing for Osvaldo, it doesn't strengthen us in my opinion, it'll just stop JWP and Reed getting games off the bench.[/p][/quote]I can see what you are saying, but this guy is only coming in on loan at the moment, If he is not up to scratch he won,t get a regular team place,so the likes of reed and JWP will still be in the frame. Any way, despite what Kruger says there is still a possibility that Spiderman could go so that would give a 1st team place for one of the others. Anyway you still need a mixture of experience and youth, so you don,t throw your younger players in at the deep end until they have learned the ropes.[/p][/quote]Yeah I get what your saying, I'm still hoping that if Schneiderlin does go then it's Clasie who comes in. He's just the sort of player we need.. If we managed to buy Hernandez, Clasie, Vlaar, Rojo along with Tadic then we'd pretty much have replaced those who have left plus have an extra right winger in Tadic as I see Clasie as more of the out and out playmaker.. I just think we need players like that in the first team, obviously i don't know how they'd do as I don't think theres enough time to gel but surely a team with those players must at least finish mid table. We'd have great players and the board will have the extra money as they obviously need it. Gormzzz
  • Score: -2

7:14pm Fri 1 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
Taider's problem is that he has to sell his loan move to his flashy girlfriend. She will look at nights out in Milan and nights out in Southampton and I get the feeling there are going to be heated words in their luxury penthouse.
That's a bit hard on the Concorde Club!
He can take her to Shirley for the night! Or if she's got a sense of humour he can drive her down to Pimpey for some chips.

We got culture by the bucket load 'ere nipper,
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: Taider's problem is that he has to sell his loan move to his flashy girlfriend. She will look at nights out in Milan and nights out in Southampton and I get the feeling there are going to be heated words in their luxury penthouse.[/p][/quote]That's a bit hard on the Concorde Club![/p][/quote]He can take her to Shirley for the night! Or if she's got a sense of humour he can drive her down to Pimpey for some chips. We got culture by the bucket load 'ere nipper, jls217
  • Score: 4

7:32pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Saintade says...

deepheat wrote:
Within the last hour.

"Portuguese daily Record claim that Sporting have rejected a €14m bid from Southampton for left-back and Rabona enthusiast Marcos Rojo.

Rojos is eager to move, and Sporting are willing to sell, but for no less than €18m for the 24 year-old.

Over to Southampton to see if they’re willing to table a second improved bid; they’re not exactly short of cash this summer".

Give them the money Les, FFS.
We've been playing hardball with other teams to 'get the best price' accordingly to Freddie Kruger, so of course clubs are going to play hard ball with us knowing we have all that dosh. Difference is we won't pay it.
[quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: Within the last hour. "Portuguese daily Record claim that Sporting have rejected a €14m bid from Southampton for left-back and Rabona enthusiast Marcos Rojo. Rojos is eager to move, and Sporting are willing to sell, but for no less than €18m for the 24 year-old. Over to Southampton to see if they’re willing to table a second improved bid; they’re not exactly short of cash this summer". Give them the money Les, FFS.[/p][/quote]We've been playing hardball with other teams to 'get the best price' accordingly to Freddie Kruger, so of course clubs are going to play hard ball with us knowing we have all that dosh. Difference is we won't pay it. Saintade
  • Score: -2

7:33pm Fri 1 Aug 14

jls217 says...

SiamSaint wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Inter are reportedly in talks with Southampton over sending them Ezequiel Schelotto on an initial loan, as well as Saphir Taider.

As part of negotiations for Dani Osvaldo’s move in the opposite direction, the Premier League side have been seen as closing in on an initial loan deal for Algeria international Taider.

Whilst talks for the former are seen as complete and negotiations over the latter remain in the balance, the Gazzetta dello Sport indicate that the two clubs are also discussing a third loan-and-purchase-op


tion agreement for Schelotto.

The Italy-capped winger is reportedly open to the move to the Premier League side and terms are reportedly close to being agreed on an initial season long loan, with a purchase option of €5m in place.

It is believed that Taider and Schelotto’s potential moves to Southampton do not affect whether or not Osvaldo’s imminent deal can be formalised.

Just when you think it can't get any better along comes another Italian jet propelled winger under 25 and with lovely long shiny hair. Take a butchers at him on You tube - These two will give us options we only dreamed about last season. Liarllana - O yeah - I remember him, where'd he go to ...........?
What a MF - Tadic, these two, Spyder(?) Wannayamoney, Davis, Cork, JWP.
You're right about the barnet, but he's actually Algerian
Taider is French/Algerian
Represented France at u18,19,20,21 level and plumped for Algeria for his full cap.

Schelotto is Italian
Represented Italy at u21 and for full cap. (This is the fella with the real barnet Taider is an amateur by contrast


They're both fliers but Taider looks more aggressive and direct.
[quote][p][bold]SiamSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Inter are reportedly in talks with Southampton over sending them Ezequiel Schelotto on an initial loan, as well as Saphir Taider. As part of negotiations for Dani Osvaldo’s move in the opposite direction, the Premier League side have been seen as closing in on an initial loan deal for Algeria international Taider. Whilst talks for the former are seen as complete and negotiations over the latter remain in the balance, the Gazzetta dello Sport indicate that the two clubs are also discussing a third loan-and-purchase-op tion agreement for Schelotto. The Italy-capped winger is reportedly open to the move to the Premier League side and terms are reportedly close to being agreed on an initial season long loan, with a purchase option of €5m in place. It is believed that Taider and Schelotto’s potential moves to Southampton do not affect whether or not Osvaldo’s imminent deal can be formalised. Just when you think it can't get any better along comes another Italian jet propelled winger under 25 and with lovely long shiny hair. Take a butchers at him on You tube - These two will give us options we only dreamed about last season. Liarllana - O yeah - I remember him, where'd he go to ...........? What a MF - Tadic, these two, Spyder(?) Wannayamoney, Davis, Cork, JWP.[/p][/quote]You're right about the barnet, but he's actually Algerian[/p][/quote]Taider is French/Algerian Represented France at u18,19,20,21 level and plumped for Algeria for his full cap. Schelotto is Italian Represented Italy at u21 and for full cap. (This is the fella with the real barnet Taider is an amateur by contrast They're both fliers but Taider looks more aggressive and direct. jls217
  • Score: 3

7:44pm Fri 1 Aug 14

jls217 says...

fascia123 wrote:
jaydejay wrote:
So where is all the Summer Sales money going? Loan players will not keep us up!
Has the transfer window shut?
They're not in just to keep us up. Rambo always has an eye on the future and will be thinkiing one season beyond this one. That's why these young lads who are clawing their way to the top makes good sense for us. Especially when if they don't make the grade or don't want to serve us we just give them or have the choice to take them for less than we might have had to stump up if we hadn't agreed on the option.
The summer sales money will be used in the way the management team have promised. Transfers, wages and running the first team.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jaydejay[/bold] wrote: So where is all the Summer Sales money going? Loan players will not keep us up![/p][/quote]Has the transfer window shut?[/p][/quote]They're not in just to keep us up. Rambo always has an eye on the future and will be thinkiing one season beyond this one. That's why these young lads who are clawing their way to the top makes good sense for us. Especially when if they don't make the grade or don't want to serve us we just give them or have the choice to take them for less than we might have had to stump up if we hadn't agreed on the option. The summer sales money will be used in the way the management team have promised. Transfers, wages and running the first team. jls217
  • Score: 0

7:49pm Fri 1 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Saintade wrote:
deepheat wrote:
Within the last hour.

"Portuguese daily Record claim that Sporting have rejected a €14m bid from Southampton for left-back and Rabona enthusiast Marcos Rojo.

Rojos is eager to move, and Sporting are willing to sell, but for no less than €18m for the 24 year-old.

Over to Southampton to see if they’re willing to table a second improved bid; they’re not exactly short of cash this summer".

Give them the money Les, FFS.
We've been playing hardball with other teams to 'get the best price' accordingly to Freddie Kruger, so of course clubs are going to play hard ball with us knowing we have all that dosh. Difference is we won't pay it.
And if Les and Rambo don't think he's worth it, I'd be very happy to hear they won't pay it.
Where is the problem in setting a limit and sticking to it?

My guess is they'll go back with an improved offer but not the full amount - which is exactly the right way to do things surely.
[quote][p][bold]Saintade[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: Within the last hour. "Portuguese daily Record claim that Sporting have rejected a €14m bid from Southampton for left-back and Rabona enthusiast Marcos Rojo. Rojos is eager to move, and Sporting are willing to sell, but for no less than €18m for the 24 year-old. Over to Southampton to see if they’re willing to table a second improved bid; they’re not exactly short of cash this summer". Give them the money Les, FFS.[/p][/quote]We've been playing hardball with other teams to 'get the best price' accordingly to Freddie Kruger, so of course clubs are going to play hard ball with us knowing we have all that dosh. Difference is we won't pay it.[/p][/quote]And if Les and Rambo don't think he's worth it, I'd be very happy to hear they won't pay it. Where is the problem in setting a limit and sticking to it? My guess is they'll go back with an improved offer but not the full amount - which is exactly the right way to do things surely. jls217
  • Score: 2

8:03pm Fri 1 Aug 14

jls217 says...

warrens 76 wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
It is a fact that for some5 years now we have played the ?southampton way'…every player has integrated into it and or academy system demands it..it is also the Dutch way which has been attributed to Barcelona who actually had it bought to them by Cruyff!!

Our style will not change, but for good or bad our resiliance and goalscoring might…if both work for us we could be top 6 no trouble if both work against bottom 6…if 50/50 mid table obscurity….

In the words of Mr Peter Bunting 'who can tell'.
Funny (and I'm not taking the micky here or doom mongering) but you can't help but see the slight similary between the secret of our success and the model Lowe unsuccessfully tried to adopt back in the day.

Certainly his focus on youth being the future and progressive continental style coaching has been realised through the likes of Spider and Adam and, laterly, a huge amount of players who have been filtering through the academy.

Lowe's problem of course was trying to do it a) too quickly b) with an initial manager who is the polar opposite of that model, ie, Redknapp and c) then getting the right framework but trying to implement it too quickly in totally the wrong league, with an unproven manager, and with already weary fans who frankly hate you with fairly good reason.

Some would say it has eventually worked wonders though and is the envy of the country and, say it very quietly for risk of getting the thumbs down this post will get for saying his name) he deserves a shred of credit, even if he nearly killed the club doing it.

Now the litmus test - once you've become the victim of your own success and sold, at an amazing profit - can you just kick on with the next cycle?
If it happens every other year it will be a bi-cycle.
I agree entirely. He was on the radio talking about this a couple of nights ago. Souness had no faith in it and didn't want to know.
Lowe needed a PR man just for himself. We didn't want a London toff and many made that very clear. He was never going to win them over. If he had managed to bring Stoneham in he might just have swayed it but there were interests who were never going to let Stoneham go ahead. He made some decisions which weren't too clever and he was a goner.
He clearly loves Saints and said he would love to be involved again.
In my mind he was no genius but he had rredeeming factors and he certainly wasn't a numpty but was a little naive and made some silly decisions.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: It is a fact that for some5 years now we have played the ?southampton way'…every player has integrated into it and or academy system demands it..it is also the Dutch way which has been attributed to Barcelona who actually had it bought to them by Cruyff!! Our style will not change, but for good or bad our resiliance and goalscoring might…if both work for us we could be top 6 no trouble if both work against bottom 6…if 50/50 mid table obscurity…. In the words of Mr Peter Bunting 'who can tell'.[/p][/quote]Funny (and I'm not taking the micky here or doom mongering) but you can't help but see the slight similary between the secret of our success and the model Lowe unsuccessfully tried to adopt back in the day. Certainly his focus on youth being the future and progressive continental style coaching has been realised through the likes of Spider and Adam and, laterly, a huge amount of players who have been filtering through the academy. Lowe's problem of course was trying to do it a) too quickly b) with an initial manager who is the polar opposite of that model, ie, Redknapp and c) then getting the right framework but trying to implement it too quickly in totally the wrong league, with an unproven manager, and with already weary fans who frankly hate you with fairly good reason. Some would say it has eventually worked wonders though and is the envy of the country and, say it very quietly for risk of getting the thumbs down this post will get for saying his name) he deserves a shred of credit, even if he nearly killed the club doing it. Now the litmus test - once you've become the victim of your own success and sold, at an amazing profit - can you just kick on with the next cycle?[/p][/quote]If it happens every other year it will be a bi-cycle.[/p][/quote]I agree entirely. He was on the radio talking about this a couple of nights ago. Souness had no faith in it and didn't want to know. Lowe needed a PR man just for himself. We didn't want a London toff and many made that very clear. He was never going to win them over. If he had managed to bring Stoneham in he might just have swayed it but there were interests who were never going to let Stoneham go ahead. He made some decisions which weren't too clever and he was a goner. He clearly loves Saints and said he would love to be involved again. In my mind he was no genius but he had rredeeming factors and he certainly wasn't a numpty but was a little naive and made some silly decisions. jls217
  • Score: 4

8:12pm Fri 1 Aug 14

lovegrove65 says...

InsideOutCat wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
Stret,
It wasn't a sad day when take that broke up, only to then reform because their solo careers bombed, Barlow got abuse for getting fat and the smug one had to join in because his records were carp!
It also wasn't a sad day when girls allowed split up, only to come back for a 'we've been together 10yrs, apart from the last 5 when we hated each other', album and tour money making exercise, to then split up again because they really didn't like each other.
And i didn't even notice that jls *spits loads (no not you mate) had split up!

Otherwise as you said, we are about to start going places! I think we are about to show the pundits and so called experts up, and Pochaliar wont even be at spuds to put a bid in for spider in in Jan!
Girls Aloud were AMAZING. Seriously, I'm not even kidding here. I went to see them on that farewell tour and as the final curtain went down it felt like we were saying goodbye to something very special. Funnily enough, I think the last artist to combine such experimentation and sense of sonic adventure with a polished, chart-topping package was probably Bowie.

Plus I don't half fancy that Kimberley Walsh.
Gary Barlow should never have gone into show business. Everyone knows that it's Ken and Peter who have the real charisma (comparatively).
you poor sole (not the skatey kind). fancy letting slip you have a knowlege of such sad things
[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]Stret, It wasn't a sad day when take that broke up, only to then reform because their solo careers bombed, Barlow got abuse for getting fat and the smug one had to join in because his records were carp! It also wasn't a sad day when girls allowed split up, only to come back for a 'we've been together 10yrs, apart from the last 5 when we hated each other', album and tour money making exercise, to then split up again because they really didn't like each other. And i didn't even notice that jls *spits loads (no not you mate) had split up! Otherwise as you said, we are about to start going places! I think we are about to show the pundits and so called experts up, and Pochaliar wont even be at spuds to put a bid in for spider in in Jan![/p][/quote]Girls Aloud were AMAZING. Seriously, I'm not even kidding here. I went to see them on that farewell tour and as the final curtain went down it felt like we were saying goodbye to something very special. Funnily enough, I think the last artist to combine such experimentation and sense of sonic adventure with a polished, chart-topping package was probably Bowie. Plus I don't half fancy that Kimberley Walsh.[/p][/quote]Gary Barlow should never have gone into show business. Everyone knows that it's Ken and Peter who have the real charisma (comparatively).[/p][/quote]you poor sole (not the skatey kind). fancy letting slip you have a knowlege of such sad things lovegrove65
  • Score: 0

8:56pm Fri 1 Aug 14

saintandrews says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low.

We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.
Presumably Osvaldo was the Tin Machine? I love the analogy, St Van.
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: People always think it's sad when the band breaks up, but can you imagine if David Bowie had never scrapped The Spiders From Mars and carried on making glam rock for the next 30 years? We'd have had no Aladdin Sane, no Hunky Dory and, worst of all, no Low. We're in exactly the same position - we need to break up a competent but essentially limited group of players and instead create a more fluid dynamic with a more gifted line-up if we're to progress and go on to become the greatest recording artist of our generation (or whatever the footballing equivalent of that is). Our best days are ahead of us. Trust me.[/p][/quote]Presumably Osvaldo was the Tin Machine? I love the analogy, St Van. saintandrews
  • Score: 1

9:05pm Fri 1 Aug 14

allstar says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
The stripes wrote:
allstar wrote:
4/1 Southampton to be relegated 2014/2015 season on paddy power ,Well worth a punt
Why is it worth a punt?
Because he's a skunt and craving a bit of attention.
Ignore the pr1ck and he'll disappear
Time will tell at the end of the season , if you are contention for relegation .
Shame about your grammar suggest you crawl back into your cave:)
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The stripes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allstar[/bold] wrote: 4/1 Southampton to be relegated 2014/2015 season on paddy power ,Well worth a punt[/p][/quote]Why is it worth a punt?[/p][/quote]Because he's a skunt and craving a bit of attention. Ignore the pr1ck and he'll disappear[/p][/quote]Time will tell at the end of the season , if you are contention for relegation . Shame about your grammar suggest you crawl back into your cave:) allstar
  • Score: 0

9:09pm Fri 1 Aug 14

allstar says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
allstar wrote:
4/1 Southampton to be relegated 2014/2015 season on paddy power ,Well worth a punt
Put your tatty little skunt house on it then you kn@b and end up homeless
Pratt for sure
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allstar[/bold] wrote: 4/1 Southampton to be relegated 2014/2015 season on paddy power ,Well worth a punt[/p][/quote]Put your tatty little skunt house on it then you kn@b and end up homeless[/p][/quote]Pratt for sure allstar
  • Score: -4

9:39pm Fri 1 Aug 14

FindAndDestroy says...

fascia123 wrote:
Check out Taider skills on youtube, are we replacing the old guard with better players because of the new managers reputation and knowledge of the marketplace?
Well It looks like RoKo knows what he is doing!! we cant just sign any player...
To be more effective and successful , he needs players who can play or adapt to our style of play.....it seems like that is exactly what he is achieve....

Maybe that's why it is taking us longer to sign players, they say patience is virtue, in other words good things come to those who wait.....

The way things are going, I don't think we will have a dog in the relegation battle........
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: Check out Taider skills on youtube, are we replacing the old guard with better players because of the new managers reputation and knowledge of the marketplace?[/p][/quote]Well It looks like RoKo knows what he is doing!! we cant just sign any player... To be more effective and successful , he needs players who can play or adapt to our style of play.....it seems like that is exactly what he is achieve.... Maybe that's why it is taking us longer to sign players, they say patience is virtue, in other words good things come to those who wait..... The way things are going, I don't think we will have a dog in the relegation battle........ FindAndDestroy
  • Score: 6

10:16pm Fri 1 Aug 14

rednwhite72 says...

Can't wait to see the boys against Bayer on Saturday for their final run out and show the new boys what a fan packed St Marys is like, I hope you lot have got your tickets!
COYR!
Can't wait to see the boys against Bayer on Saturday for their final run out and show the new boys what a fan packed St Marys is like, I hope you lot have got your tickets! COYR! rednwhite72
  • Score: 5

10:51pm Fri 1 Aug 14

deepheat says...

The Telegraph

8:41PM BST 01 Aug 2014

Southampton goalkeeper Artur Boruc an unlikely target for German champions Bayern Munich.

This is not the first time Bayern have looked at Boruc, who was targeted by the German club during his successful time at Celtic.

The problem for the German club is to convince a goalkeeper to move to the Allianz Arena without any realistic chance of displacing Neuer.

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The Telegraph 8:41PM BST 01 Aug 2014 Southampton goalkeeper Artur Boruc an unlikely target for German champions Bayern Munich. This is not the first time Bayern have looked at Boruc, who was targeted by the German club during his successful time at Celtic. The problem for the German club is to convince a goalkeeper to move to the Allianz Arena without any realistic chance of displacing Neuer. http://www.telegraph .co.uk/sport/footbal l/teams/southampton/ 11007085/Southampton -goalkeeper-Artur-Bo ruc-an-unlikely-targ et-for-German-champi ons-Bayern-Munich.ht ml deepheat
  • Score: -1

11:15pm Fri 1 Aug 14

vidman says...

So we have Tadic now Taidir all we need now is a Tardis to arrive as a time lord and we are set up for the future.
So we have Tadic now Taidir all we need now is a Tardis to arrive as a time lord and we are set up for the future. vidman
  • Score: 0

11:20pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

vidman wrote:
So we have Tadic now Taidir all we need now is a Tardis to arrive as a time lord and we are set up for the future.
That might be just a tad ambitious. ;0)
[quote][p][bold]vidman[/bold] wrote: So we have Tadic now Taidir all we need now is a Tardis to arrive as a time lord and we are set up for the future.[/p][/quote]That might be just a tad ambitious. ;0) Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

11:33pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Letissthelastoftheloyal says...

Buddy SFC wrote:
Well that is the best bit of business we have done this Summer ........ Getting 'Rid' for another season , Can't MoPo have him !!
Doesn't Brendan Rodgers want him?
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: Well that is the best bit of business we have done this Summer ........ Getting 'Rid' for another season , Can't MoPo have him !![/p][/quote]Doesn't Brendan Rodgers want him? Letissthelastoftheloyal
  • Score: 0

2:14am Sat 2 Aug 14

deepheat says...

Clubs that finished below us and money spent on transfers so far:-

Aston Villa

Players in T Leggett, I Nehemie (both Southampton, free), J Cole (West Ham, free), P Senderos (Valencia, free) K Richardson (Fulham, free). Total spent £0

Burnley

Players in M Kightly (Stoke, £1.5m), M Gilks (Blackpool, free), M Taylor (West Ham, free), S Reid (West Bromwich, free), L Jutkiewicz (Middlesbrough, £1.5m). Total spent £3m

Crystal Palace

Players in C Kettings (Blackpool, free), F Campbell (Cardiff, £900,000), B Hangeland (free). Total spent £900,000

Hull City

Players in J Livermore (Tottenham Hotspur, £8m), R Snodgrass (Norwich City, £7m), T Ince (Blackpool, compensation), H Maguire (Sheffield United, £2.5m), A Robertson (Dundee United, £2.85m ). Total spent £20.35m

Leicester City

Players in J Barmby (Manchester United, free), M Upson (Brighton & Hove Albion, free), M Albrighton (Aston Villa, free), L Rowley (Manchester United, free) L Ulloa (Brighton, £8m). Total spent £8m

Newcastle

Players in A Perez (Tenerife, £1.5m), S de Jong, (Ajax, £6m), R Cabella (Montpellier, £12m), D Janmaat (Feyenoord (£5m), E Rivière, (Monaco, £6m). Total spent £30.5m

QPR

Players in R Ferdinand (Manchester United, free), S Caulker (Cardiff City, £8.5m). Total spent £8.5m

Stoke City

Players in P Bardsley (Sunderland, free), S Sidwell (Fulham, free), M B Diouf (Hannover, free), D Teixeira (Banska Bystrica, £400k), Bojan Krkic (Barcelona,£3m). Total spent £3.4m

Sunderland

Players in J Gomez (Wigan, free), B Jones (West Bromwich, free), C Pantilimon, Manchester City, free), P van Aanholt (Chelsea, £1.5m) Total spent £1.5m

Swansea City

Players in L Fabianski (Arsenal, free), B Gomis (Lyons, free), M Emnes (Middlesbrough, £1.5m), G Sigurdsson (Tottenham Hotspur, undisclosed), J Montero (Morelia, £4m), S Kingsley (Falkirk, £850,00). Total spent £6.35m

West Bromwich

Players in B Ideye (Dynamo Kiev, £10m) C Gardner (Sunderland, free), J Lescott (Manchester City, free), C Baird (Burnley, free), A Wisdom (Liverpool, loan). Total spent £10m

West Ham

Players in E Valencia (Pachuca, £12m), A Cresswell (Ipswich, £2m), C Kouyate (Anderlecht, £7m), D Poyet (Charlton, undisclosed), C Jenkinson (Arsenal, loan). Total spent £21m
Clubs that finished below us and money spent on transfers so far:- Aston Villa Players in T Leggett, I Nehemie (both Southampton, free), J Cole (West Ham, free), P Senderos (Valencia, free) K Richardson (Fulham, free). Total spent £0 Burnley Players in M Kightly (Stoke, £1.5m), M Gilks (Blackpool, free), M Taylor (West Ham, free), S Reid (West Bromwich, free), L Jutkiewicz (Middlesbrough, £1.5m). Total spent £3m Crystal Palace Players in C Kettings (Blackpool, free), F Campbell (Cardiff, £900,000), B Hangeland (free). Total spent £900,000 Hull City Players in J Livermore (Tottenham Hotspur, £8m), R Snodgrass (Norwich City, £7m), T Ince (Blackpool, compensation), H Maguire (Sheffield United, £2.5m), A Robertson (Dundee United, £2.85m ). Total spent £20.35m Leicester City Players in J Barmby (Manchester United, free), M Upson (Brighton & Hove Albion, free), M Albrighton (Aston Villa, free), L Rowley (Manchester United, free) L Ulloa (Brighton, £8m). Total spent £8m Newcastle Players in A Perez (Tenerife, £1.5m), S de Jong, (Ajax, £6m), R Cabella (Montpellier, £12m), D Janmaat (Feyenoord (£5m), E Rivière, (Monaco, £6m). Total spent £30.5m QPR Players in R Ferdinand (Manchester United, free), S Caulker (Cardiff City, £8.5m). Total spent £8.5m Stoke City Players in P Bardsley (Sunderland, free), S Sidwell (Fulham, free), M B Diouf (Hannover, free), D Teixeira (Banska Bystrica, £400k), Bojan Krkic (Barcelona,£3m). Total spent £3.4m Sunderland Players in J Gomez (Wigan, free), B Jones (West Bromwich, free), C Pantilimon, Manchester City, free), P van Aanholt (Chelsea, £1.5m) Total spent £1.5m Swansea City Players in L Fabianski (Arsenal, free), B Gomis (Lyons, free), M Emnes (Middlesbrough, £1.5m), G Sigurdsson (Tottenham Hotspur, undisclosed), J Montero (Morelia, £4m), S Kingsley (Falkirk, £850,00). Total spent £6.35m West Bromwich Players in B Ideye (Dynamo Kiev, £10m) C Gardner (Sunderland, free), J Lescott (Manchester City, free), C Baird (Burnley, free), A Wisdom (Liverpool, loan). Total spent £10m West Ham Players in E Valencia (Pachuca, £12m), A Cresswell (Ipswich, £2m), C Kouyate (Anderlecht, £7m), D Poyet (Charlton, undisclosed), C Jenkinson (Arsenal, loan). Total spent £21m deepheat
  • Score: 6

4:15am Sat 2 Aug 14

Redslo says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
well if we start the season as well as we have done in pre-season I will be the first to `lets dance`
Horse you are a man of research and facts .....please can you inform me how many players can a club loan in its squad at any one time?
its hard to make out really different places give different rules. however the football association (simplified rules) state.

6.6.3 Clubs may have up to a maximum of four (4) Long Term Loan Transfers of any age during a
Playing Season.

6.6.2 Short Term Loan Transfers – A Club can have up to a maximum of twelve (12) Short Term
Loans during a Playing Season. The minimum period of a Short Term Loan transfer must
be twenty-eight (28) days with a maximum of ninety-three (93) days in any one Playing
Season.
The Competition shall not approve more than two (2) Short Term Loan transfers to or from
any one Club, including Premier League and Football League Clubs, at any one time.

however the scouse echo say,
Premier League rules limit clubs to just two season-long domestic loans but international deals are, essentially, limitless.
League regulations also say that no side can have more than one domestic loan from the same club.


so it looks like you can have 4 long term loans with 2 coming from abroad and 12 short term (1-3month) loans, only 2 loans can come from another domestic club.

as I say its hard to find the regulations because they are split over several different sections and sub-sections of the fa rules, prem comes under the fa and I cant find the prem rules regarding this so I think the fa rules are in play.

hope that helps mush.
FM 2014 says you can have four long term domestic loans in a season but only two at the same time--so that would be two season long loans. Also, it says you are limited to one from a specific club so we can't go back to Chelsea. There is no limit on loans from foreign clubs according to FM 2014.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: well if we start the season as well as we have done in pre-season I will be the first to `lets dance`[/p][/quote]Horse you are a man of research and facts .....please can you inform me how many players can a club loan in its squad at any one time?[/p][/quote]its hard to make out really different places give different rules. however the football association (simplified rules) state. 6.6.3 Clubs may have up to a maximum of four (4) Long Term Loan Transfers of any age during a Playing Season. 6.6.2 Short Term Loan Transfers – A Club can have up to a maximum of twelve (12) Short Term Loans during a Playing Season. The minimum period of a Short Term Loan transfer must be twenty-eight (28) days with a maximum of ninety-three (93) days in any one Playing Season. The Competition shall not approve more than two (2) Short Term Loan transfers to or from any one Club, including Premier League and Football League Clubs, at any one time. however the scouse echo say, Premier League rules limit clubs to just two season-long domestic loans but international deals are, essentially, limitless. League regulations also say that no side can have more than one domestic loan from the same club. so it looks like you can have 4 long term loans with 2 coming from abroad and 12 short term (1-3month) loans, only 2 loans can come from another domestic club. as I say its hard to find the regulations because they are split over several different sections and sub-sections of the fa rules, prem comes under the fa and I cant find the prem rules regarding this so I think the fa rules are in play. hope that helps mush.[/p][/quote]FM 2014 says you can have four long term domestic loans in a season but only two at the same time--so that would be two season long loans. Also, it says you are limited to one from a specific club so we can't go back to Chelsea. There is no limit on loans from foreign clubs according to FM 2014. Redslo
  • Score: 0

4:16am Sat 2 Aug 14

The stripes says...

jls217 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
Taider's problem is that he has to sell his loan move to his flashy girlfriend. She will look at nights out in Milan and nights out in Southampton and I get the feeling there are going to be heated words in their luxury penthouse.
That's a bit hard on the Concorde Club!
He can take her to Shirley for the night! Or if she's got a sense of humour he can drive her down to Pimpey for some chips.

We got culture by the bucket load 'ere nipper,
Have to say, these comments have had me in stitches. A bag of chips in Pompey - brilliant!
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: Taider's problem is that he has to sell his loan move to his flashy girlfriend. She will look at nights out in Milan and nights out in Southampton and I get the feeling there are going to be heated words in their luxury penthouse.[/p][/quote]That's a bit hard on the Concorde Club![/p][/quote]He can take her to Shirley for the night! Or if she's got a sense of humour he can drive her down to Pimpey for some chips. We got culture by the bucket load 'ere nipper,[/p][/quote]Have to say, these comments have had me in stitches. A bag of chips in Pompey - brilliant! The stripes
  • Score: 2

9:08am Sat 2 Aug 14

Linesman says...

Another Loan Signing!

Is there nobody about that is prepared to commit to Saints?

Do they think that relegation is inevitable, and they don't want to play in the Championship?

Are the board not prepared to shuck out any of the money that it has raked in during the past coupe of months?

Why is it that Liverpool, who have spent many millions, have Not increased their season ticket prices, but Saints, who have made many millions, have increased theirs?

What the hell is going on?
Another Loan Signing! Is there nobody about that is prepared to commit to Saints? Do they think that relegation is inevitable, and they don't want to play in the Championship? Are the board not prepared to shuck out any of the money that it has raked in during the past coupe of months? Why is it that Liverpool, who have spent many millions, have Not increased their season ticket prices, but Saints, who have made many millions, have increased theirs? What the hell is going on? Linesman
  • Score: -11

9:40am Sat 2 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Linesman wrote:
Another Loan Signing!

Is there nobody about that is prepared to commit to Saints?

Do they think that relegation is inevitable, and they don't want to play in the Championship?

Are the board not prepared to shuck out any of the money that it has raked in during the past coupe of months?

Why is it that Liverpool, who have spent many millions, have Not increased their season ticket prices, but Saints, who have made many millions, have increased theirs?

What the hell is going on?
If you scroll through the threads over the past 2 or 3 weeks I'm sure all the answers to your questions can be found.
The same questions have been asked over and over again, so I doubt if anyone can be bothered to provide the answers now as we all seem to be in a more positive frame of mind and looking forward to some new signings and are all trying to put the negativity behind us and get behind the manager and the new look team he is assembling.
Hope that helps you.
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: Another Loan Signing! Is there nobody about that is prepared to commit to Saints? Do they think that relegation is inevitable, and they don't want to play in the Championship? Are the board not prepared to shuck out any of the money that it has raked in during the past coupe of months? Why is it that Liverpool, who have spent many millions, have Not increased their season ticket prices, but Saints, who have made many millions, have increased theirs? What the hell is going on?[/p][/quote]If you scroll through the threads over the past 2 or 3 weeks I'm sure all the answers to your questions can be found. The same questions have been asked over and over again, so I doubt if anyone can be bothered to provide the answers now as we all seem to be in a more positive frame of mind and looking forward to some new signings and are all trying to put the negativity behind us and get behind the manager and the new look team he is assembling. Hope that helps you. J7junctionseven
  • Score: 1

9:43am Sat 2 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

The stripes wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
Taider's problem is that he has to sell his loan move to his flashy girlfriend. She will look at nights out in Milan and nights out in Southampton and I get the feeling there are going to be heated words in their luxury penthouse.
That's a bit hard on the Concorde Club!
He can take her to Shirley for the night! Or if she's got a sense of humour he can drive her down to Pimpey for some chips.

We got culture by the bucket load 'ere nipper,
Have to say, these comments have had me in stitches. A bag of chips in Pompey - brilliant!
What no fish with the chips???...:o)
[quote][p][bold]The stripes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: Taider's problem is that he has to sell his loan move to his flashy girlfriend. She will look at nights out in Milan and nights out in Southampton and I get the feeling there are going to be heated words in their luxury penthouse.[/p][/quote]That's a bit hard on the Concorde Club![/p][/quote]He can take her to Shirley for the night! Or if she's got a sense of humour he can drive her down to Pimpey for some chips. We got culture by the bucket load 'ere nipper,[/p][/quote]Have to say, these comments have had me in stitches. A bag of chips in Pompey - brilliant![/p][/quote]What no fish with the chips???...:o) J7junctionseven
  • Score: 0

9:59am Sat 2 Aug 14

rednwhite72 says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
The stripes wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
Taider's problem is that he has to sell his loan move to his flashy girlfriend. She will look at nights out in Milan and nights out in Southampton and I get the feeling there are going to be heated words in their luxury penthouse.
That's a bit hard on the Concorde Club!
He can take her to Shirley for the night! Or if she's got a sense of humour he can drive her down to Pimpey for some chips.

We got culture by the bucket load 'ere nipper,
Have to say, these comments have had me in stitches. A bag of chips in Pompey - brilliant!
What no fish with the chips???...:o)
Yeh and they do a nice 'battered skate', if you can catch it that is...lol
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The stripes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: Taider's problem is that he has to sell his loan move to his flashy girlfriend. She will look at nights out in Milan and nights out in Southampton and I get the feeling there are going to be heated words in their luxury penthouse.[/p][/quote]That's a bit hard on the Concorde Club![/p][/quote]He can take her to Shirley for the night! Or if she's got a sense of humour he can drive her down to Pimpey for some chips. We got culture by the bucket load 'ere nipper,[/p][/quote]Have to say, these comments have had me in stitches. A bag of chips in Pompey - brilliant![/p][/quote]What no fish with the chips???...:o)[/p][/quote]Yeh and they do a nice 'battered skate', if you can catch it that is...lol rednwhite72
  • Score: 1

10:09am Sat 2 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Linesman wrote:
Another Loan Signing!

Is there nobody about that is prepared to commit to Saints?

Do they think that relegation is inevitable, and they don't want to play in the Championship?

Are the board not prepared to shuck out any of the money that it has raked in during the past coupe of months?

Why is it that Liverpool, who have spent many millions, have Not increased their season ticket prices, but Saints, who have made many millions, have increased theirs?

What the hell is going on?
If you scroll through the threads over the past 2 or 3 weeks I'm sure all the answers to your questions can be found.
The same questions have been asked over and over again, so I doubt if anyone can be bothered to provide the answers now as we all seem to be in a more positive frame of mind and looking forward to some new signings and are all trying to put the negativity behind us and get behind the manager and the new look team he is assembling.
Hope that helps you.
Good post J7,sums it up completely.If the answer isn't in there somewhere,then there isn't one.
Someone some where must've come up with the right one in the last month,its just personal choice as to which one you think is right.
The truth is out there!
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: Another Loan Signing! Is there nobody about that is prepared to commit to Saints? Do they think that relegation is inevitable, and they don't want to play in the Championship? Are the board not prepared to shuck out any of the money that it has raked in during the past coupe of months? Why is it that Liverpool, who have spent many millions, have Not increased their season ticket prices, but Saints, who have made many millions, have increased theirs? What the hell is going on?[/p][/quote]If you scroll through the threads over the past 2 or 3 weeks I'm sure all the answers to your questions can be found. The same questions have been asked over and over again, so I doubt if anyone can be bothered to provide the answers now as we all seem to be in a more positive frame of mind and looking forward to some new signings and are all trying to put the negativity behind us and get behind the manager and the new look team he is assembling. Hope that helps you.[/p][/quote]Good post J7,sums it up completely.If the answer isn't in there somewhere,then there isn't one. Someone some where must've come up with the right one in the last month,its just personal choice as to which one you think is right. The truth is out there! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: -1

2:05pm Sat 2 Aug 14

mickey01 says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Linesman wrote:
Another Loan Signing!

Is there nobody about that is prepared to commit to Saints?

Do they think that relegation is inevitable, and they don't want to play in the Championship?

Are the board not prepared to shuck out any of the money that it has raked in during the past coupe of months?

Why is it that Liverpool, who have spent many millions, have Not increased their season ticket prices, but Saints, who have made many millions, have increased theirs?

What the hell is going on?
If you scroll through the threads over the past 2 or 3 weeks I'm sure all the answers to your questions can be found.
The same questions have been asked over and over again, so I doubt if anyone can be bothered to provide the answers now as we all seem to be in a more positive frame of mind and looking forward to some new signings and are all trying to put the negativity behind us and get behind the manager and the new look team he is assembling.
Hope that helps you.
Well said lets just get the effin season started and take it from there i'm sure there are worse teams in the P L and time will tell and those who left will be history and the ones still here will be history in the making
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: Another Loan Signing! Is there nobody about that is prepared to commit to Saints? Do they think that relegation is inevitable, and they don't want to play in the Championship? Are the board not prepared to shuck out any of the money that it has raked in during the past coupe of months? Why is it that Liverpool, who have spent many millions, have Not increased their season ticket prices, but Saints, who have made many millions, have increased theirs? What the hell is going on?[/p][/quote]If you scroll through the threads over the past 2 or 3 weeks I'm sure all the answers to your questions can be found. The same questions have been asked over and over again, so I doubt if anyone can be bothered to provide the answers now as we all seem to be in a more positive frame of mind and looking forward to some new signings and are all trying to put the negativity behind us and get behind the manager and the new look team he is assembling. Hope that helps you.[/p][/quote]Well said lets just get the effin season started and take it from there i'm sure there are worse teams in the P L and time will tell and those who left will be history and the ones still here will be history in the making mickey01
  • Score: 1

3:16pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Romsey Larry says...

Saints will continue to produce talented players. Fact. There will come a day when the owners decide to establish us as a top four side, and then the flow of these players to other clubs will cease. Unless of course they have the loyalty of Le Tiss ( my god can we ever appreciate how truly great he was? ) When that happens watch out Premiership ( or Europe as Arsene Wenger has recently stated )!!
The sixty four thousand dollar question is WHICH owners will it be? If the present owners had offered a pay package to keep our players who have just been sold, then I would say they were serious in their ambitions to get us into Champions League status. But I can see them selling out at the appropriate time. I just hope the new owners will be trillionaires and feel passionate about their purchase.
Meanwhile let's give Liverpool something to think about on the opening day.
Saints will continue to produce talented players. Fact. There will come a day when the owners decide to establish us as a top four side, and then the flow of these players to other clubs will cease. Unless of course they have the loyalty of Le Tiss ( my god can we ever appreciate how truly great he was? ) When that happens watch out Premiership ( or Europe as Arsene Wenger has recently stated )!! The sixty four thousand dollar question is WHICH owners will it be? If the present owners had offered a pay package to keep our players who have just been sold, then I would say they were serious in their ambitions to get us into Champions League status. But I can see them selling out at the appropriate time. I just hope the new owners will be trillionaires and feel passionate about their purchase. Meanwhile let's give Liverpool something to think about on the opening day. Romsey Larry
  • Score: 1

4:47pm Sat 2 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Romsey Larry wrote:
Saints will continue to produce talented players. Fact. There will come a day when the owners decide to establish us as a top four side, and then the flow of these players to other clubs will cease. Unless of course they have the loyalty of Le Tiss ( my god can we ever appreciate how truly great he was? ) When that happens watch out Premiership ( or Europe as Arsene Wenger has recently stated )!!
The sixty four thousand dollar question is WHICH owners will it be? If the present owners had offered a pay package to keep our players who have just been sold, then I would say they were serious in their ambitions to get us into Champions League status. But I can see them selling out at the appropriate time. I just hope the new owners will be trillionaires and feel passionate about their purchase.
Meanwhile let's give Liverpool something to think about on the opening day.
We could not offer and still cannot offer more than 4% rise in wages so the present owner cannot offer them the pay some of them require and if you'd read the article from Mourinho he couldn't afford to off Luke Shaw the wages he was demanding which is why he lad to let him go to Manure.
She has put approx £30m pounds into the club. She is allowing all of the money coming in from transfers to be used for the club wages, transfers, admiin etc. So that'll work our in excess of 100million - How much more does she have to put in before you would consider her serious or passionate?
How about you stumping up 10k of your money 'cos you can't be considered passionate or serious about te club.
[quote][p][bold]Romsey Larry[/bold] wrote: Saints will continue to produce talented players. Fact. There will come a day when the owners decide to establish us as a top four side, and then the flow of these players to other clubs will cease. Unless of course they have the loyalty of Le Tiss ( my god can we ever appreciate how truly great he was? ) When that happens watch out Premiership ( or Europe as Arsene Wenger has recently stated )!! The sixty four thousand dollar question is WHICH owners will it be? If the present owners had offered a pay package to keep our players who have just been sold, then I would say they were serious in their ambitions to get us into Champions League status. But I can see them selling out at the appropriate time. I just hope the new owners will be trillionaires and feel passionate about their purchase. Meanwhile let's give Liverpool something to think about on the opening day.[/p][/quote]We could not offer and still cannot offer more than 4% rise in wages so the present owner cannot offer them the pay some of them require and if you'd read the article from Mourinho he couldn't afford to off Luke Shaw the wages he was demanding which is why he lad to let him go to Manure. She has put approx £30m pounds into the club. She is allowing all of the money coming in from transfers to be used for the club wages, transfers, admiin etc. So that'll work our in excess of 100million - How much more does she have to put in before you would consider her serious or passionate? How about you stumping up 10k of your money 'cos you can't be considered passionate or serious about te club. jls217
  • Score: 3

5:27pm Sat 2 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

jls217 wrote:
Romsey Larry wrote:
Saints will continue to produce talented players. Fact. There will come a day when the owners decide to establish us as a top four side, and then the flow of these players to other clubs will cease. Unless of course they have the loyalty of Le Tiss ( my god can we ever appreciate how truly great he was? ) When that happens watch out Premiership ( or Europe as Arsene Wenger has recently stated )!!
The sixty four thousand dollar question is WHICH owners will it be? If the present owners had offered a pay package to keep our players who have just been sold, then I would say they were serious in their ambitions to get us into Champions League status. But I can see them selling out at the appropriate time. I just hope the new owners will be trillionaires and feel passionate about their purchase.
Meanwhile let's give Liverpool something to think about on the opening day.
We could not offer and still cannot offer more than 4% rise in wages so the present owner cannot offer them the pay some of them require and if you'd read the article from Mourinho he couldn't afford to off Luke Shaw the wages he was demanding which is why he lad to let him go to Manure.
She has put approx £30m pounds into the club. She is allowing all of the money coming in from transfers to be used for the club wages, transfers, admiin etc. So that'll work our in excess of 100million - How much more does she have to put in before you would consider her serious or passionate?
How about you stumping up 10k of your money 'cos you can't be considered passionate or serious about te club.
MLS because the sales have massively increased our income I believe we can now offer more than the 4% that we were stuck with. Don't forget we will also slashed a lot off of our wage bill with the players gone, especially Osvaldo. But yes unless we increased our income another way we could only slightly increase our wage bill. I don't know why some don't understand that. It wouldn't have mattered even if we could have offered them all 100k a week, they wouldn't have stayed because the couldn't be bothered to earn a place in the champs league, they would rather get there off the backs of other players work!
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Romsey Larry[/bold] wrote: Saints will continue to produce talented players. Fact. There will come a day when the owners decide to establish us as a top four side, and then the flow of these players to other clubs will cease. Unless of course they have the loyalty of Le Tiss ( my god can we ever appreciate how truly great he was? ) When that happens watch out Premiership ( or Europe as Arsene Wenger has recently stated )!! The sixty four thousand dollar question is WHICH owners will it be? If the present owners had offered a pay package to keep our players who have just been sold, then I would say they were serious in their ambitions to get us into Champions League status. But I can see them selling out at the appropriate time. I just hope the new owners will be trillionaires and feel passionate about their purchase. Meanwhile let's give Liverpool something to think about on the opening day.[/p][/quote]We could not offer and still cannot offer more than 4% rise in wages so the present owner cannot offer them the pay some of them require and if you'd read the article from Mourinho he couldn't afford to off Luke Shaw the wages he was demanding which is why he lad to let him go to Manure. She has put approx £30m pounds into the club. She is allowing all of the money coming in from transfers to be used for the club wages, transfers, admiin etc. So that'll work our in excess of 100million - How much more does she have to put in before you would consider her serious or passionate? How about you stumping up 10k of your money 'cos you can't be considered passionate or serious about te club.[/p][/quote]MLS because the sales have massively increased our income I believe we can now offer more than the 4% that we were stuck with. Don't forget we will also slashed a lot off of our wage bill with the players gone, especially Osvaldo. But yes unless we increased our income another way we could only slightly increase our wage bill. I don't know why some don't understand that. It wouldn't have mattered even if we could have offered them all 100k a week, they wouldn't have stayed because the couldn't be bothered to earn a place in the champs league, they would rather get there off the backs of other players work! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 3

5:36pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Forest Saint says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Would rather have sold him even if only for £5mil but at least we now have a player who is actually going to be useful for us. Can't realy blame any side for not wanting to take the gamble. He's stupid enough to blow it at Inter as well
From what I've been reading let's hope that Pelle doesn't follow suit and let Koeman down again. He's reported to be a bit of a prima dona too, like Osvaldo
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: Would rather have sold him even if only for £5mil but at least we now have a player who is actually going to be useful for us. Can't realy blame any side for not wanting to take the gamble. He's stupid enough to blow it at Inter as well[/p][/quote]From what I've been reading let's hope that Pelle doesn't follow suit and let Koeman down again. He's reported to be a bit of a prima dona too, like Osvaldo Forest Saint
  • Score: -1

5:39pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Forest Saint says...

jls217 wrote:
Romsey Larry wrote:
Saints will continue to produce talented players. Fact. There will come a day when the owners decide to establish us as a top four side, and then the flow of these players to other clubs will cease. Unless of course they have the loyalty of Le Tiss ( my god can we ever appreciate how truly great he was? ) When that happens watch out Premiership ( or Europe as Arsene Wenger has recently stated )!!
The sixty four thousand dollar question is WHICH owners will it be? If the present owners had offered a pay package to keep our players who have just been sold, then I would say they were serious in their ambitions to get us into Champions League status. But I can see them selling out at the appropriate time. I just hope the new owners will be trillionaires and feel passionate about their purchase.
Meanwhile let's give Liverpool something to think about on the opening day.
We could not offer and still cannot offer more than 4% rise in wages so the present owner cannot offer them the pay some of them require and if you'd read the article from Mourinho he couldn't afford to off Luke Shaw the wages he was demanding which is why he lad to let him go to Manure.
She has put approx £30m pounds into the club. She is allowing all of the money coming in from transfers to be used for the club wages, transfers, admiin etc. So that'll work our in excess of 100million - How much more does she have to put in before you would consider her serious or passionate?
How about you stumping up 10k of your money 'cos you can't be considered passionate or serious about te club.
Do you know why we can't offer more than a 4% pay rise to our players?
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Romsey Larry[/bold] wrote: Saints will continue to produce talented players. Fact. There will come a day when the owners decide to establish us as a top four side, and then the flow of these players to other clubs will cease. Unless of course they have the loyalty of Le Tiss ( my god can we ever appreciate how truly great he was? ) When that happens watch out Premiership ( or Europe as Arsene Wenger has recently stated )!! The sixty four thousand dollar question is WHICH owners will it be? If the present owners had offered a pay package to keep our players who have just been sold, then I would say they were serious in their ambitions to get us into Champions League status. But I can see them selling out at the appropriate time. I just hope the new owners will be trillionaires and feel passionate about their purchase. Meanwhile let's give Liverpool something to think about on the opening day.[/p][/quote]We could not offer and still cannot offer more than 4% rise in wages so the present owner cannot offer them the pay some of them require and if you'd read the article from Mourinho he couldn't afford to off Luke Shaw the wages he was demanding which is why he lad to let him go to Manure. She has put approx £30m pounds into the club. She is allowing all of the money coming in from transfers to be used for the club wages, transfers, admiin etc. So that'll work our in excess of 100million - How much more does she have to put in before you would consider her serious or passionate? How about you stumping up 10k of your money 'cos you can't be considered passionate or serious about te club.[/p][/quote]Do you know why we can't offer more than a 4% pay rise to our players? Forest Saint
  • Score: 0

6:34pm Sat 2 Aug 14

midlandsaint says...

Deal done, and Taider arrived on loan according to Sky Sports. Ezequiel Schelotto and Hugo Campagnaro are also being linked to us.

http://www1.skysport
s.com/football/news/
11095/9403863/transf
er-news-ronald-koema
n-confirms-deal-for-
saphir-taider
Deal done, and Taider arrived on loan according to Sky Sports. Ezequiel Schelotto and Hugo Campagnaro are also being linked to us. http://www1.skysport s.com/football/news/ 11095/9403863/transf er-news-ronald-koema n-confirms-deal-for- saphir-taider midlandsaint
  • Score: 0

8:22pm Sat 2 Aug 14

flower49 says...

I'm liking this new team more every day, we have a fantastic new manager and off-loaded the Diva's, got great new signing's an Shi*loads of money in the bank, life is good
I'm liking this new team more every day, we have a fantastic new manager and off-loaded the Diva's, got great new signing's an Shi*loads of money in the bank, life is good flower49
  • Score: 5

8:50pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

jls217 wrote:
Romsey Larry wrote:
Saints will continue to produce talented players. Fact. There will come a day when the owners decide to establish us as a top four side, and then the flow of these players to other clubs will cease. Unless of course they have the loyalty of Le Tiss ( my god can we ever appreciate how truly great he was? ) When that happens watch out Premiership ( or Europe as Arsene Wenger has recently stated )!!
The sixty four thousand dollar question is WHICH owners will it be? If the present owners had offered a pay package to keep our players who have just been sold, then I would say they were serious in their ambitions to get us into Champions League status. But I can see them selling out at the appropriate time. I just hope the new owners will be trillionaires and feel passionate about their purchase.
Meanwhile let's give Liverpool something to think about on the opening day.
We could not offer and still cannot offer more than 4% rise in wages so the present owner cannot offer them the pay some of them require and if you'd read the article from Mourinho he couldn't afford to off Luke Shaw the wages he was demanding which is why he lad to let him go to Manure.
She has put approx £30m pounds into the club. She is allowing all of the money coming in from transfers to be used for the club wages, transfers, admiin etc. So that'll work our in excess of 100million - How much more does she have to put in before you would consider her serious or passionate?
How about you stumping up 10k of your money 'cos you can't be considered passionate or serious about te club.
My minor sponsorship, cancelled by Cortese as he didn't want his managers sponsored any longer, was just over £10k. I sponsored from Burley to Adkins. Her father bought the club for £14m and she put £30m in, the club is worth more than that so it's not exactly being a benefactor is it?
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Romsey Larry[/bold] wrote: Saints will continue to produce talented players. Fact. There will come a day when the owners decide to establish us as a top four side, and then the flow of these players to other clubs will cease. Unless of course they have the loyalty of Le Tiss ( my god can we ever appreciate how truly great he was? ) When that happens watch out Premiership ( or Europe as Arsene Wenger has recently stated )!! The sixty four thousand dollar question is WHICH owners will it be? If the present owners had offered a pay package to keep our players who have just been sold, then I would say they were serious in their ambitions to get us into Champions League status. But I can see them selling out at the appropriate time. I just hope the new owners will be trillionaires and feel passionate about their purchase. Meanwhile let's give Liverpool something to think about on the opening day.[/p][/quote]We could not offer and still cannot offer more than 4% rise in wages so the present owner cannot offer them the pay some of them require and if you'd read the article from Mourinho he couldn't afford to off Luke Shaw the wages he was demanding which is why he lad to let him go to Manure. She has put approx £30m pounds into the club. She is allowing all of the money coming in from transfers to be used for the club wages, transfers, admiin etc. So that'll work our in excess of 100million - How much more does she have to put in before you would consider her serious or passionate? How about you stumping up 10k of your money 'cos you can't be considered passionate or serious about te club.[/p][/quote]My minor sponsorship, cancelled by Cortese as he didn't want his managers sponsored any longer, was just over £10k. I sponsored from Burley to Adkins. Her father bought the club for £14m and she put £30m in, the club is worth more than that so it's not exactly being a benefactor is it? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 0

10:23am Sun 3 Aug 14

Redslo says...

Forest Saint wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Romsey Larry wrote:
Saints will continue to produce talented players. Fact. There will come a day when the owners decide to establish us as a top four side, and then the flow of these players to other clubs will cease. Unless of course they have the loyalty of Le Tiss ( my god can we ever appreciate how truly great he was? ) When that happens watch out Premiership ( or Europe as Arsene Wenger has recently stated )!!
The sixty four thousand dollar question is WHICH owners will it be? If the present owners had offered a pay package to keep our players who have just been sold, then I would say they were serious in their ambitions to get us into Champions League status. But I can see them selling out at the appropriate time. I just hope the new owners will be trillionaires and feel passionate about their purchase.
Meanwhile let's give Liverpool something to think about on the opening day.
We could not offer and still cannot offer more than 4% rise in wages so the present owner cannot offer them the pay some of them require and if you'd read the article from Mourinho he couldn't afford to off Luke Shaw the wages he was demanding which is why he lad to let him go to Manure.
She has put approx £30m pounds into the club. She is allowing all of the money coming in from transfers to be used for the club wages, transfers, admiin etc. So that'll work our in excess of 100million - How much more does she have to put in before you would consider her serious or passionate?
How about you stumping up 10k of your money 'cos you can't be considered passionate or serious about te club.
Do you know why we can't offer more than a 4% pay rise to our players?
It is not 4 percent, it is 4 million pounds. I explain this and more in my blog:
Redsloscf.blogspot.c
om
[quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Romsey Larry[/bold] wrote: Saints will continue to produce talented players. Fact. There will come a day when the owners decide to establish us as a top four side, and then the flow of these players to other clubs will cease. Unless of course they have the loyalty of Le Tiss ( my god can we ever appreciate how truly great he was? ) When that happens watch out Premiership ( or Europe as Arsene Wenger has recently stated )!! The sixty four thousand dollar question is WHICH owners will it be? If the present owners had offered a pay package to keep our players who have just been sold, then I would say they were serious in their ambitions to get us into Champions League status. But I can see them selling out at the appropriate time. I just hope the new owners will be trillionaires and feel passionate about their purchase. Meanwhile let's give Liverpool something to think about on the opening day.[/p][/quote]We could not offer and still cannot offer more than 4% rise in wages so the present owner cannot offer them the pay some of them require and if you'd read the article from Mourinho he couldn't afford to off Luke Shaw the wages he was demanding which is why he lad to let him go to Manure. She has put approx £30m pounds into the club. She is allowing all of the money coming in from transfers to be used for the club wages, transfers, admiin etc. So that'll work our in excess of 100million - How much more does she have to put in before you would consider her serious or passionate? How about you stumping up 10k of your money 'cos you can't be considered passionate or serious about te club.[/p][/quote]Do you know why we can't offer more than a 4% pay rise to our players?[/p][/quote]It is not 4 percent, it is 4 million pounds. I explain this and more in my blog: Redsloscf.blogspot.c om Redslo
  • Score: 1

11:30am Sun 3 Aug 14

Dubai-saints89 says...

midlandsaint wrote:
Deal done, and Taider arrived on loan according to Sky Sports. Ezequie
l Schelotto and Hugo Campagnaro are also being linked to us.

http://www1.skysport

s.com/football/news/

11095/9403863/transf

er-news-ronald-koema

n-confirms-deal-for-

saphir-taider
according to twitter Ezequiel Schelotto now follows Southampton Fc on twitter. pretty much done deal i reckon
[quote][p][bold]midlandsaint[/bold] wrote: Deal done, and Taider arrived on loan according to Sky Sports. Ezequie l Schelotto and Hugo Campagnaro are also being linked to us. http://www1.skysport s.com/football/news/ 11095/9403863/transf er-news-ronald-koema n-confirms-deal-for- saphir-taider[/p][/quote]according to twitter Ezequiel Schelotto now follows Southampton Fc on twitter. pretty much done deal i reckon Dubai-saints89
  • Score: 0

3:13am Mon 4 Aug 14

SiamSaint says...

jls217 wrote:
SiamSaint wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Inter are reportedly in talks with Southampton over sending them Ezequiel Schelotto on an initial loan, as well as Saphir Taider.

As part of negotiations for Dani Osvaldo’s move in the opposite direction, the Premier League side have been seen as closing in on an initial loan deal for Algeria international Taider.

Whilst talks for the former are seen as complete and negotiations over the latter remain in the balance, the Gazzetta dello Sport indicate that the two clubs are also discussing a third loan-and-purchase-op



tion agreement for Schelotto.

The Italy-capped winger is reportedly open to the move to the Premier League side and terms are reportedly close to being agreed on an initial season long loan, with a purchase option of €5m in place.

It is believed that Taider and Schelotto’s potential moves to Southampton do not affect whether or not Osvaldo’s imminent deal can be formalised.

Just when you think it can't get any better along comes another Italian jet propelled winger under 25 and with lovely long shiny hair. Take a butchers at him on You tube - These two will give us options we only dreamed about last season. Liarllana - O yeah - I remember him, where'd he go to ...........?
What a MF - Tadic, these two, Spyder(?) Wannayamoney, Davis, Cork, JWP.
You're right about the barnet, but he's actually Algerian
Taider is French/Algerian
Represented France at u18,19,20,21 level and plumped for Algeria for his full cap.

Schelotto is Italian
Represented Italy at u21 and for full cap. (This is the fella with the real barnet Taider is an amateur by contrast


They're both fliers but Taider looks more aggressive and direct.
If we are being pedantic :) Schelotto is Argentinain-Italian
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SiamSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Inter are reportedly in talks with Southampton over sending them Ezequiel Schelotto on an initial loan, as well as Saphir Taider. As part of negotiations for Dani Osvaldo’s move in the opposite direction, the Premier League side have been seen as closing in on an initial loan deal for Algeria international Taider. Whilst talks for the former are seen as complete and negotiations over the latter remain in the balance, the Gazzetta dello Sport indicate that the two clubs are also discussing a third loan-and-purchase-op tion agreement for Schelotto. The Italy-capped winger is reportedly open to the move to the Premier League side and terms are reportedly close to being agreed on an initial season long loan, with a purchase option of €5m in place. It is believed that Taider and Schelotto’s potential moves to Southampton do not affect whether or not Osvaldo’s imminent deal can be formalised. Just when you think it can't get any better along comes another Italian jet propelled winger under 25 and with lovely long shiny hair. Take a butchers at him on You tube - These two will give us options we only dreamed about last season. Liarllana - O yeah - I remember him, where'd he go to ...........? What a MF - Tadic, these two, Spyder(?) Wannayamoney, Davis, Cork, JWP.[/p][/quote]You're right about the barnet, but he's actually Algerian[/p][/quote]Taider is French/Algerian Represented France at u18,19,20,21 level and plumped for Algeria for his full cap. Schelotto is Italian Represented Italy at u21 and for full cap. (This is the fella with the real barnet Taider is an amateur by contrast They're both fliers but Taider looks more aggressive and direct.[/p][/quote]If we are being pedantic :) Schelotto is Argentinain-Italian SiamSaint
  • Score: 0

6:11am Mon 4 Aug 14

jls217 says...

SiamSaint wrote:
jls217 wrote:
SiamSaint wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Inter are reportedly in talks with Southampton over sending them Ezequiel Schelotto on an initial loan, as well as Saphir Taider.

As part of negotiations for Dani Osvaldo’s move in the opposite direction, the Premier League side have been seen as closing in on an initial loan deal for Algeria international Taider.

Whilst talks for the former are seen as complete and negotiations over the latter remain in the balance, the Gazzetta dello Sport indicate that the two clubs are also discussing a third loan-and-purchase-op




tion agreement for Schelotto.

The Italy-capped winger is reportedly open to the move to the Premier League side and terms are reportedly close to being agreed on an initial season long loan, with a purchase option of €5m in place.

It is believed that Taider and Schelotto’s potential moves to Southampton do not affect whether or not Osvaldo’s imminent deal can be formalised.

Just when you think it can't get any better along comes another Italian jet propelled winger under 25 and with lovely long shiny hair. Take a butchers at him on You tube - These two will give us options we only dreamed about last season. Liarllana - O yeah - I remember him, where'd he go to ...........?
What a MF - Tadic, these two, Spyder(?) Wannayamoney, Davis, Cork, JWP.
You're right about the barnet, but he's actually Algerian
Taider is French/Algerian
Represented France at u18,19,20,21 level and plumped for Algeria for his full cap.

Schelotto is Italian
Represented Italy at u21 and for full cap. (This is the fella with the real barnet Taider is an amateur by contrast


They're both fliers but Taider looks more aggressive and direct.
If we are being pedantic :) Schelotto is Argentinain-Italian
And it's Schelotto who has the barnet not the Algerian.
[quote][p][bold]SiamSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SiamSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Inter are reportedly in talks with Southampton over sending them Ezequiel Schelotto on an initial loan, as well as Saphir Taider. As part of negotiations for Dani Osvaldo’s move in the opposite direction, the Premier League side have been seen as closing in on an initial loan deal for Algeria international Taider. Whilst talks for the former are seen as complete and negotiations over the latter remain in the balance, the Gazzetta dello Sport indicate that the two clubs are also discussing a third loan-and-purchase-op tion agreement for Schelotto. The Italy-capped winger is reportedly open to the move to the Premier League side and terms are reportedly close to being agreed on an initial season long loan, with a purchase option of €5m in place. It is believed that Taider and Schelotto’s potential moves to Southampton do not affect whether or not Osvaldo’s imminent deal can be formalised. Just when you think it can't get any better along comes another Italian jet propelled winger under 25 and with lovely long shiny hair. Take a butchers at him on You tube - These two will give us options we only dreamed about last season. Liarllana - O yeah - I remember him, where'd he go to ...........? What a MF - Tadic, these two, Spyder(?) Wannayamoney, Davis, Cork, JWP.[/p][/quote]You're right about the barnet, but he's actually Algerian[/p][/quote]Taider is French/Algerian Represented France at u18,19,20,21 level and plumped for Algeria for his full cap. Schelotto is Italian Represented Italy at u21 and for full cap. (This is the fella with the real barnet Taider is an amateur by contrast They're both fliers but Taider looks more aggressive and direct.[/p][/quote]If we are being pedantic :) Schelotto is Argentinain-Italian[/p][/quote]And it's Schelotto who has the barnet not the Algerian. jls217
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