Reed: New boss will have money to spend

Les Reed

Les Reed

First published in Sport Basingstoke Gazette: Photograph of the Author by , Chief Sports Writer

Les Reed insists Saints are determined to keep their star men at the club this summer – but “guaranteed” they will reinvest any money raised through player sales back into the squad.

The executive director is a busy man as he leads the search for a new manager and deals with bids for Adam Lallana and Luke Shaw and a transfer request from Dejan Lovren, as well as looking to recruit new players.

Saints have sold Rickie Lambert to Liverpool this summer, but felt they had little choice as the striker chased a dream move back home.

Reed believes the World Cup will give Saints a bit of breathing space with few transfers expected to happen anywhere across the football universe until it wraps up.

But he remains upbeat over their chances of having an improved squad for the Premier League kick-off on August 16.

He said: “Ralph (Krueger) mentioned we’d had bids and enquiries for our players – but not as many as I thought.

“When I said (back in April) that it wasn’t our intention to sell any players, that was correct – it wasn’t our intention to sell any players.

“The important thing about what I said then was that we’d had no bids, and at that point we hadn’t.

“We’ve had enquiries and we’ve had some bids.

“However, there is no way that I or the board were going to make any decisions without the new manager having the opportunity to assess those players and their value to the squad, and having the opportunity to talk to them and to try to persuade them that this was the place to be.

“It’s a balancing act – it’s about keeping players we’ve got informed, trying to persuade them to be patient and to wait and see.

“That’s not always easy when other clubs publicly announce that they’re interested in your players because it does destabilise them a bit.

“However, it is very important that our new manager has the opportunity to show them what he might do.

“We will only make decisions based on what’s right and best for the club, so if we do sell players then it’s guaranteed that any revenues we make will be reinvested in the team.

"There’s a logistical job to be done there because we do want to bring players in and improve the team so it’s important that, whatever happens, when we do kick off on August 16 that we have improved the team and the depth and strength of the squad with the players that have come in, even if players may have gone out. However, our intention is to keep all of our core players – I wouldn’t want people to think I’ve just opened the door for transfers, that’s not the case.”

Reed has narrowed down the list of contenders to replace Mauricio Pochettino down to a list of four and an appointment is now expected next week.

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8:08am Thu 12 Jun 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

OUR SQUAD was light or wafer thin.

WE NEED Players in place before any more are dispatched.

THERE WAS a choice with Rickie - Get a New Manager in place and a new GOAL MACHINE and then let Rickie have the chance of his Dream Move - keeping 3 LIONS playing with SAINTS at the World Cup.

THE SOONER a New Manager is in place and settled - the quicker we can start dealing in the Transfer Market and have stability in Pre-Season.

+++++NEWS ON THE NEW MANAGER NEEDED +++++++++
OUR SQUAD was light or wafer thin. WE NEED Players in place before any more are dispatched. THERE WAS a choice with Rickie - Get a New Manager in place and a new GOAL MACHINE and then let Rickie have the chance of his Dream Move - keeping 3 LIONS playing with SAINTS at the World Cup. THE SOONER a New Manager is in place and settled - the quicker we can start dealing in the Transfer Market and have stability in Pre-Season. +++++NEWS ON THE NEW MANAGER NEEDED +++++++++ The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: -17

8:11am Thu 12 Jun 14

AdamG10 says...

It's good to hear that if any transfers are sanctioned by the board and manager that funds will be reinvested. I'm really excited to see who the new manager will be and see which players the club decides to bring in. Can't wait for the season to start!
It's good to hear that if any transfers are sanctioned by the board and manager that funds will be reinvested. I'm really excited to see who the new manager will be and see which players the club decides to bring in. Can't wait for the season to start! AdamG10
  • Score: 36

8:12am Thu 12 Jun 14

Chicago Saint says...

Good statement from Reed. They are keeping their promise thus far and are holding firm on rumors. Hope he doesn't forget that Suarez and Rooney also asked to be sold and their respective clubs simply said NO. That is always an option that the club has. Players display a lack of honor when they have put their signature on a contract and then ask to break it. If they want Champions League football, they should display some character and EARN IT!
Good statement from Reed. They are keeping their promise thus far and are holding firm on rumors. Hope he doesn't forget that Suarez and Rooney also asked to be sold and their respective clubs simply said NO. That is always an option that the club has. Players display a lack of honor when they have put their signature on a contract and then ask to break it. If they want Champions League football, they should display some character and EARN IT! Chicago Saint
  • Score: 71

8:13am Thu 12 Jun 14

Warnford cookie says...

So can everyone take 20 minutes of their time to listen to Les Reed's full statement and can all the "doom-mongers" on these comments pages please chill out and have a holiday. Enjoy the World cup with up to five Saints players taking part along with Rickie, who will not pull on a Liverpool shirt until after the tournament. The club have invested money, staff, experts and time in ensuring we progress further. A new manager will be installed next week and no one is looking for a fire sale of assets there is no long list of bids for players and we are targeting new players to fill the gaps identified to be needed to take us further. COYR
So can everyone take 20 minutes of their time to listen to Les Reed's full statement and can all the "doom-mongers" on these comments pages please chill out and have a holiday. Enjoy the World cup with up to five Saints players taking part along with Rickie, who will not pull on a Liverpool shirt until after the tournament. The club have invested money, staff, experts and time in ensuring we progress further. A new manager will be installed next week and no one is looking for a fire sale of assets there is no long list of bids for players and we are targeting new players to fill the gaps identified to be needed to take us further. COYR Warnford cookie
  • Score: 52

8:19am Thu 12 Jun 14

Costa Baz says...

Get the new man in, talk to the dissenters and if he believes it is best that they leave, then let them go on the last day of the transfer window.

They are under contract, to SFC, and we are not obliged to release them at a time that will benefit them and the clubs they want to join, clubs we will be hoping to finish above next season.

Also, once the decision has been made, to let them go, make them train with the academy, or by themselves, so that their fitness suffers and they are not as fit as the players, at the club they are joining.

If they want to be @rseholes, then they should be treated like @rseholes.
Get the new man in, talk to the dissenters and if he believes it is best that they leave, then let them go on the last day of the transfer window. They are under contract, to SFC, and we are not obliged to release them at a time that will benefit them and the clubs they want to join, clubs we will be hoping to finish above next season. Also, once the decision has been made, to let them go, make them train with the academy, or by themselves, so that their fitness suffers and they are not as fit as the players, at the club they are joining. If they want to be @rseholes, then they should be treated like @rseholes. Costa Baz
  • Score: 48

8:29am Thu 12 Jun 14

Santa Retfordia says...

So we've got world class facilities and a big pot of cash to spend.

We've been in worse situations.
So we've got world class facilities and a big pot of cash to spend. We've been in worse situations. Santa Retfordia
  • Score: 66

8:52am Thu 12 Jun 14

Graham, North of Watford says...

What do people think these departures (and soon to be announced) arrivals will have on our League position next season.

Will we be comfortably away from the relegation zone or struggling heroically onwards on a match by match basis.

I am feeling nervous but not yet worried. Any more requests to leave and I will be really anxious.

As someone else said, I am not sure why we can't just say no
What do people think these departures (and soon to be announced) arrivals will have on our League position next season. Will we be comfortably away from the relegation zone or struggling heroically onwards on a match by match basis. I am feeling nervous but not yet worried. Any more requests to leave and I will be really anxious. As someone else said, I am not sure why we can't just say no Graham, North of Watford
  • Score: 3

8:54am Thu 12 Jun 14

dualsy says...

lovren 4 year contract WHATS changed with him?
30 mill take it or leave it ,or reserves.
lovren 4 year contract WHATS changed with him? 30 mill take it or leave it ,or reserves. dualsy
  • Score: 33

8:59am Thu 12 Jun 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
So we've got world class facilities and a big pot of cash to spend.

We've been in worse situations.
No stret we've got it all wrong, the club is in 'meltdown' and the domino affect has started! With KL only interested in asset stripping.

Oh no wait, we've only lost a manager, who wanted out for a while, and got some good compo and sold an aging forward to his boyhood team, a move everyone of us would have wanted if saints had come in for us.
We are about to appoint a good manager, if the rumours are true, and no player will be sold unless he agrees!
Oh I almost forgot, with the world cup starting tonight we have the chance to see 6 saints stars play for their countries (7 with Rickie) and with diverpool issuing a take it or leave it demand for a transfer of lalla before the world cup, they will now have to look elsewhere or look completely stupid, untrustworthy and desperate!
Roll on the world cup
Roll on a new manager
And roll on the new prem season, with our squad supplemented with exciting new stars.
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: So we've got world class facilities and a big pot of cash to spend. We've been in worse situations.[/p][/quote]No stret we've got it all wrong, the club is in 'meltdown' and the domino affect has started! With KL only interested in asset stripping. Oh no wait, we've only lost a manager, who wanted out for a while, and got some good compo and sold an aging forward to his boyhood team, a move everyone of us would have wanted if saints had come in for us. We are about to appoint a good manager, if the rumours are true, and no player will be sold unless he agrees! Oh I almost forgot, with the world cup starting tonight we have the chance to see 6 saints stars play for their countries (7 with Rickie) and with diverpool issuing a take it or leave it demand for a transfer of lalla before the world cup, they will now have to look elsewhere or look completely stupid, untrustworthy and desperate! Roll on the world cup Roll on a new manager And roll on the new prem season, with our squad supplemented with exciting new stars. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 41

9:00am Thu 12 Jun 14

costa gaz says...

When is the short list of 4 going to be whittled down to a short list of 1.
The delay in securing a new manager is only going to increase the speculation and feed the pond life such as Neil Ashton.

If an announcement is not made by the weekend, the speculation will become unbearable.
It has been over 2 weeks since Pochettino went and our board would have known about it long before, as they have suggested, so why the long wait.
Players like Derby's Will Hughes will soon be snapped up, leaving us to do our business in the closing stages of the window. I.E. Signing what is available at inflated prices.
When is the short list of 4 going to be whittled down to a short list of 1. The delay in securing a new manager is only going to increase the speculation and feed the pond life such as Neil Ashton. If an announcement is not made by the weekend, the speculation will become unbearable. It has been over 2 weeks since Pochettino went and our board would have known about it long before, as they have suggested, so why the long wait. Players like Derby's Will Hughes will soon be snapped up, leaving us to do our business in the closing stages of the window. I.E. Signing what is available at inflated prices. costa gaz
  • Score: 0

9:02am Thu 12 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad.

Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left.

Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same.

Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others.

I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.
Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad. Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left. Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same. Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others. I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -46

9:03am Thu 12 Jun 14

saint christopher says...

As I feared on another thread, we've now begun to get endless DE reports that are simply using bits of Les Reed's previous statement with which I'm sure most of us are now familiar.

However I'm a little perturbed at the comment "an appointment is now expected next week". Is this the same appointment that was promised by the end of this week and the same appointment which Les said the other day would happen sooner than fans were expecting? Or is this the DE stirring things for the sake of it?
As I feared on another thread, we've now begun to get endless DE reports that are simply using bits of Les Reed's previous statement with which I'm sure most of us are now familiar. However I'm a little perturbed at the comment "an appointment is now expected next week". Is this the same appointment that was promised by the end of this week and the same appointment which Les said the other day would happen sooner than fans were expecting? Or is this the DE stirring things for the sake of it? saint christopher
  • Score: -13

9:03am Thu 12 Jun 14

chapelsaint says...

Just seen Harry Rednapp at St Mary's!
Just seen Harry Rednapp at St Mary's! chapelsaint
  • Score: -36

9:07am Thu 12 Jun 14

Chapperall says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
So we've got world class facilities and a big pot of cash to spend.

We've been in worse situations.
No stret we've got it all wrong, the club is in 'meltdown' and the domino affect has started! With KL only interested in asset stripping.

Oh no wait, we've only lost a manager, who wanted out for a while, and got some good compo and sold an aging forward to his boyhood team, a move everyone of us would have wanted if saints had come in for us.
We are about to appoint a good manager, if the rumours are true, and no player will be sold unless he agrees!
Oh I almost forgot, with the world cup starting tonight we have the chance to see 6 saints stars play for their countries (7 with Rickie) and with diverpool issuing a take it or leave it demand for a transfer of lalla before the world cup, they will now have to look elsewhere or look completely stupid, untrustworthy and desperate!
Roll on the world cup
Roll on a new manager
And roll on the new prem season, with our squad supplemented with exciting new stars.
Agreed I will buy into this. Onwards and upwards
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: So we've got world class facilities and a big pot of cash to spend. We've been in worse situations.[/p][/quote]No stret we've got it all wrong, the club is in 'meltdown' and the domino affect has started! With KL only interested in asset stripping. Oh no wait, we've only lost a manager, who wanted out for a while, and got some good compo and sold an aging forward to his boyhood team, a move everyone of us would have wanted if saints had come in for us. We are about to appoint a good manager, if the rumours are true, and no player will be sold unless he agrees! Oh I almost forgot, with the world cup starting tonight we have the chance to see 6 saints stars play for their countries (7 with Rickie) and with diverpool issuing a take it or leave it demand for a transfer of lalla before the world cup, they will now have to look elsewhere or look completely stupid, untrustworthy and desperate! Roll on the world cup Roll on a new manager And roll on the new prem season, with our squad supplemented with exciting new stars.[/p][/quote]Agreed I will buy into this. Onwards and upwards Chapperall
  • Score: 7

9:09am Thu 12 Jun 14

durhamsaint87 says...

We need the manager in place now to sort out this mess. There must be things happening behind the scenes that we are not aware of. How could so many players want to leave after the best season we have had in the premier? Has finishing 8th gone to their heads? Has MOPO put these ideas in the players heads before he left? Does this all stem back to Nicola leaving? Why is St Mary's not a happy place? We have not been told the whole story here!
We need the manager in place now to sort out this mess. There must be things happening behind the scenes that we are not aware of. How could so many players want to leave after the best season we have had in the premier? Has finishing 8th gone to their heads? Has MOPO put these ideas in the players heads before he left? Does this all stem back to Nicola leaving? Why is St Mary's not a happy place? We have not been told the whole story here! durhamsaint87
  • Score: -11

9:11am Thu 12 Jun 14

Santa Retfordia says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote: So we've got world class facilities and a big pot of cash to spend. We've been in worse situations.
No stret we've got it all wrong, the club is in 'meltdown' and the domino affect has started! With KL only interested in asset stripping. Oh no wait, we've only lost a manager, who wanted out for a while, and got some good compo and sold an aging forward to his boyhood team, a move everyone of us would have wanted if saints had come in for us. We are about to appoint a good manager, if the rumours are true, and no player will be sold unless he agrees! Oh I almost forgot, with the world cup starting tonight we have the chance to see 6 saints stars play for their countries (7 with Rickie) and with diverpool issuing a take it or leave it demand for a transfer of lalla before the world cup, they will now have to look elsewhere or look completely stupid, untrustworthy and desperate! Roll on the world cup Roll on a new manager And roll on the new prem season, with our squad supplemented with exciting new stars.
I am SO excited about the world cup. It's an excitement that even Pitbull can't diminish, and that's saying something.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: So we've got world class facilities and a big pot of cash to spend. We've been in worse situations.[/p][/quote]No stret we've got it all wrong, the club is in 'meltdown' and the domino affect has started! With KL only interested in asset stripping. Oh no wait, we've only lost a manager, who wanted out for a while, and got some good compo and sold an aging forward to his boyhood team, a move everyone of us would have wanted if saints had come in for us. We are about to appoint a good manager, if the rumours are true, and no player will be sold unless he agrees! Oh I almost forgot, with the world cup starting tonight we have the chance to see 6 saints stars play for their countries (7 with Rickie) and with diverpool issuing a take it or leave it demand for a transfer of lalla before the world cup, they will now have to look elsewhere or look completely stupid, untrustworthy and desperate! Roll on the world cup Roll on a new manager And roll on the new prem season, with our squad supplemented with exciting new stars.[/p][/quote]I am SO excited about the world cup. It's an excitement that even Pitbull can't diminish, and that's saying something. Santa Retfordia
  • Score: 4

9:18am Thu 12 Jun 14

noodlesnewman says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad.

Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left.

Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same.

Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others.

I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.
Never been so exited about our future , it wouldnt be normal to have no dodgy rumours flying about thats what being a saints fans all about ! Me thinks katherina will shock a few people soon , she must get well **** with media scum , hopefully soon we will shut the scum bags up once and for all , so so much jelousy aimed at up and coming saints ! COYR.ps give those shell suit wearing scousers and arm chair man ure fans the silent treatment i am from now on ,lol i no its hard but they get right off by provoking our reaction s very sad negative energy thieves getting high by trying to make us low ,sados or what i wouldnt even get on pompey site for wind up ..THEY MUST HAVE NO LIFE !
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad. Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left. Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same. Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others. I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.[/p][/quote]Never been so exited about our future , it wouldnt be normal to have no dodgy rumours flying about thats what being a saints fans all about ! Me thinks katherina will shock a few people soon , she must get well **** with media scum , hopefully soon we will shut the scum bags up once and for all , so so much jelousy aimed at up and coming saints ! COYR.ps give those shell suit wearing scousers and arm chair man ure fans the silent treatment i am from now on ,lol i no its hard but they get right off by provoking our reaction s very sad negative energy thieves getting high by trying to make us low ,sados or what i wouldnt even get on pompey site for wind up ..THEY MUST HAVE NO LIFE ! noodlesnewman
  • Score: 9

9:20am Thu 12 Jun 14

Sammy2sheds says...

This is laying the groundwork
Nice preparation for the fans to accept the fact that players will be leaving.
This is laying the groundwork Nice preparation for the fans to accept the fact that players will be leaving. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: -24

9:22am Thu 12 Jun 14

Saintjock says...

chapelsaint wrote:
Just seen Harry Rednapp at St Mary's!
Being interviewed for the payroll manager vacancy. Brought his dog along too I heard.
[quote][p][bold]chapelsaint[/bold] wrote: Just seen Harry Rednapp at St Mary's![/p][/quote]Being interviewed for the payroll manager vacancy. Brought his dog along too I heard. Saintjock
  • Score: 23

9:31am Thu 12 Jun 14

AdamG10 says...

Chill out people. I think WBA have been without a manager for over twice as long as we have.. Look at the dross names being linked with them too. At least most of the names linked to our role are a huge step up! If it takes another week to appoint the right man then so be it. I'd rather the club take their time and get it right. My money is still on Koeman. Anyway, until it's sorted enjoy the World Cup!
Chill out people. I think WBA have been without a manager for over twice as long as we have.. Look at the dross names being linked with them too. At least most of the names linked to our role are a huge step up! If it takes another week to appoint the right man then so be it. I'd rather the club take their time and get it right. My money is still on Koeman. Anyway, until it's sorted enjoy the World Cup! AdamG10
  • Score: 17

9:32am Thu 12 Jun 14

jls217 says...

Chicago Saint wrote:
Good statement from Reed. They are keeping their promise thus far and are holding firm on rumors. Hope he doesn't forget that Suarez and Rooney also asked to be sold and their respective clubs simply said NO. That is always an option that the club has. Players display a lack of honor when they have put their signature on a contract and then ask to break it. If they want Champions League football, they should display some character and EARN IT!
Post of the day Chicago - Been saying the same thing for weeks. Doesn't matter what anyone else in the club is up to, if you have players who do not wish to honour their contracts it starts unravelling.
Once we have a new man in the driving seat these players, our Captain (for goodness sake - the man who should be assisting the manager), and soon to be, I hope, our ex Capt. Other players seem to be taking their lead from him.

They can knuckle down and do what we are paying them to do.

Run out their contracts in the reserves and kiss goodbye to their international futures.

Be sold to the highest bidder like the whores they seem so desperately to want to emulate.

The choice is entirely theirs.
[quote][p][bold]Chicago Saint[/bold] wrote: Good statement from Reed. They are keeping their promise thus far and are holding firm on rumors. Hope he doesn't forget that Suarez and Rooney also asked to be sold and their respective clubs simply said NO. That is always an option that the club has. Players display a lack of honor when they have put their signature on a contract and then ask to break it. If they want Champions League football, they should display some character and EARN IT![/p][/quote]Post of the day Chicago - Been saying the same thing for weeks. Doesn't matter what anyone else in the club is up to, if you have players who do not wish to honour their contracts it starts unravelling. Once we have a new man in the driving seat these players, our Captain (for goodness sake - the man who should be assisting the manager), and soon to be, I hope, our ex Capt. Other players seem to be taking their lead from him. They can knuckle down and do what we are paying them to do. Run out their contracts in the reserves and kiss goodbye to their international futures. Be sold to the highest bidder like the whores they seem so desperately to want to emulate. The choice is entirely theirs. jls217
  • Score: 24

9:32am Thu 12 Jun 14

Malcombe says...

I've seen the interview and kept mumbling well done, not once have I slagged off the Board they are intelligent people and why should they be rushed they have a very important decision to make and there ambitions and mission will not change just because Potchettino unceremoniously walked out, also IMO the Players should prove to the Club that they too still want to continue the direction of onwards and upwards and keep progressing and are not swayed by Potchettino's departure which to me is total disloyalty to the Club and I cannot believe they are all tarred with the same brush, the problem can also be money talks.
I firmly believe the Players knew when Cortese left that Potchettino would only Manage until the end of the season and informed there Agents to check out who wants them and how much Salary they could expect hence the rumours starting months ago, I also believe they know who the last 4 are on the list and possibly know which one the Board has chosen, could it be Koeman who can't be at a press conference until after Sunday due to him being on holiday?

If Ronald Koeman is the Boards choice he isn't exactly unknown unlike Potchettino, when he was appointed it was oh yea I remember he tripped Michael Owen where as Koeman who's 8 years older was in the headlines as a Player for many years playing for the top clubs in Europe and playing sexy Football for Holland, since retiring he has progressed as a Coach at Barcelona and is a man with a lot of experience with a better CV than Potchettino.

We will all move on because the mopping and misery is subsiding and probably this time next week we will all know who the Manager is then we can start our opinions hopefully with all the positives, my choice is Ronald Koeman but if not I have 100% trust in the Board to make the right choice because they too want the best to continue this fantastic progress, without doubt the Vultures and Agitating Agents need stuffing to shut them up and allow them to stir up problem for any of the 11 Clubs that finished below Saints, these parasites could of created a knock on affect that could stir the other Clubs and Players so it's there turn to suffer but they will all have to get past the Managers first with the exception of WBA
I've seen the interview and kept mumbling well done, not once have I slagged off the Board they are intelligent people and why should they be rushed they have a very important decision to make and there ambitions and mission will not change just because Potchettino unceremoniously walked out, also IMO the Players should prove to the Club that they too still want to continue the direction of onwards and upwards and keep progressing and are not swayed by Potchettino's departure which to me is total disloyalty to the Club and I cannot believe they are all tarred with the same brush, the problem can also be money talks. I firmly believe the Players knew when Cortese left that Potchettino would only Manage until the end of the season and informed there Agents to check out who wants them and how much Salary they could expect hence the rumours starting months ago, I also believe they know who the last 4 are on the list and possibly know which one the Board has chosen, could it be Koeman who can't be at a press conference until after Sunday due to him being on holiday? If Ronald Koeman is the Boards choice he isn't exactly unknown unlike Potchettino, when he was appointed it was oh yea I remember he tripped Michael Owen where as Koeman who's 8 years older was in the headlines as a Player for many years playing for the top clubs in Europe and playing sexy Football for Holland, since retiring he has progressed as a Coach at Barcelona and is a man with a lot of experience with a better CV than Potchettino. We will all move on because the mopping and misery is subsiding and probably this time next week we will all know who the Manager is then we can start our opinions hopefully with all the positives, my choice is Ronald Koeman but if not I have 100% trust in the Board to make the right choice because they too want the best to continue this fantastic progress, without doubt the Vultures and Agitating Agents need stuffing to shut them up and allow them to stir up problem for any of the 11 Clubs that finished below Saints, these parasites could of created a knock on affect that could stir the other Clubs and Players so it's there turn to suffer but they will all have to get past the Managers first with the exception of WBA Malcombe
  • Score: 13

9:36am Thu 12 Jun 14

jls217 says...

costa gaz wrote:
When is the short list of 4 going to be whittled down to a short list of 1.
The delay in securing a new manager is only going to increase the speculation and feed the pond life such as Neil Ashton.

If an announcement is not made by the weekend, the speculation will become unbearable.
It has been over 2 weeks since Pochettino went and our board would have known about it long before, as they have suggested, so why the long wait.
Players like Derby's Will Hughes will soon be snapped up, leaving us to do our business in the closing stages of the window. I.E. Signing what is available at inflated prices.
Patience Costa - The earliest I would have expected a man in would be by kick off Saturday. The reason for that is posted at various locations on this forum.
And that is a shrewd move by our management team.

We can only go by what we read and hear and it appears there are two front runners Koeman and Mancini. I have my preference and you possibly have yours but either will do a job for us and sort this mess with the players out one way or t'other.

My guess would be before the end of next week. Who knows for sure though.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: When is the short list of 4 going to be whittled down to a short list of 1. The delay in securing a new manager is only going to increase the speculation and feed the pond life such as Neil Ashton. If an announcement is not made by the weekend, the speculation will become unbearable. It has been over 2 weeks since Pochettino went and our board would have known about it long before, as they have suggested, so why the long wait. Players like Derby's Will Hughes will soon be snapped up, leaving us to do our business in the closing stages of the window. I.E. Signing what is available at inflated prices.[/p][/quote]Patience Costa - The earliest I would have expected a man in would be by kick off Saturday. The reason for that is posted at various locations on this forum. And that is a shrewd move by our management team. We can only go by what we read and hear and it appears there are two front runners Koeman and Mancini. I have my preference and you possibly have yours but either will do a job for us and sort this mess with the players out one way or t'other. My guess would be before the end of next week. Who knows for sure though. jls217
  • Score: 5

9:44am Thu 12 Jun 14

jls217 says...

durhamsaint87 wrote:
We need the manager in place now to sort out this mess. There must be things happening behind the scenes that we are not aware of. How could so many players want to leave after the best season we have had in the premier? Has finishing 8th gone to their heads? Has MOPO put these ideas in the players heads before he left? Does this all stem back to Nicola leaving? Why is St Mary's not a happy place? We have not been told the whole story here!
And just like all the other scandalous happenings prior to this one we will never get the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. So why bother getting bent out of shape over that which we have no control.

Let the back room boys quietly get on with their work, allow the new manager time to work out which drawer in his desk his brandy is going into, let the players come back and stew in their juice for a while, let the manager wield his axe and sit back and enjoy the new brand of football which is likely to emerge.

And listen intently to what our captain has to say about why he did not allay fans fears or work in the best interest of his club whilst abroad and reassuring his team mates. Cos I bet a months wages that's what the capt of other, as yet, unnamed club was doing to our players.
[quote][p][bold]durhamsaint87[/bold] wrote: We need the manager in place now to sort out this mess. There must be things happening behind the scenes that we are not aware of. How could so many players want to leave after the best season we have had in the premier? Has finishing 8th gone to their heads? Has MOPO put these ideas in the players heads before he left? Does this all stem back to Nicola leaving? Why is St Mary's not a happy place? We have not been told the whole story here![/p][/quote]And just like all the other scandalous happenings prior to this one we will never get the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. So why bother getting bent out of shape over that which we have no control. Let the back room boys quietly get on with their work, allow the new manager time to work out which drawer in his desk his brandy is going into, let the players come back and stew in their juice for a while, let the manager wield his axe and sit back and enjoy the new brand of football which is likely to emerge. And listen intently to what our captain has to say about why he did not allay fans fears or work in the best interest of his club whilst abroad and reassuring his team mates. Cos I bet a months wages that's what the capt of other, as yet, unnamed club was doing to our players. jls217
  • Score: 8

9:44am Thu 12 Jun 14

jls217 says...

durhamsaint87 wrote:
We need the manager in place now to sort out this mess. There must be things happening behind the scenes that we are not aware of. How could so many players want to leave after the best season we have had in the premier? Has finishing 8th gone to their heads? Has MOPO put these ideas in the players heads before he left? Does this all stem back to Nicola leaving? Why is St Mary's not a happy place? We have not been told the whole story here!
And just like all the other scandalous happenings prior to this one we will never get the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. So why bother getting bent out of shape over that which we have no control.

Let the back room boys quietly get on with their work, allow the new manager time to work out which drawer in his desk his brandy is going into, let the players come back and stew in their juice for a while, let the manager wield his axe and sit back and enjoy the new brand of football which is likely to emerge.

And listen intently to what our captain has to say about why he did not allay fans fears or work in the best interest of his club whilst abroad and reassuring his team mates. Cos I bet a months wages that's what the capt of other, as yet, unnamed club was doing to our players.
[quote][p][bold]durhamsaint87[/bold] wrote: We need the manager in place now to sort out this mess. There must be things happening behind the scenes that we are not aware of. How could so many players want to leave after the best season we have had in the premier? Has finishing 8th gone to their heads? Has MOPO put these ideas in the players heads before he left? Does this all stem back to Nicola leaving? Why is St Mary's not a happy place? We have not been told the whole story here![/p][/quote]And just like all the other scandalous happenings prior to this one we will never get the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. So why bother getting bent out of shape over that which we have no control. Let the back room boys quietly get on with their work, allow the new manager time to work out which drawer in his desk his brandy is going into, let the players come back and stew in their juice for a while, let the manager wield his axe and sit back and enjoy the new brand of football which is likely to emerge. And listen intently to what our captain has to say about why he did not allay fans fears or work in the best interest of his club whilst abroad and reassuring his team mates. Cos I bet a months wages that's what the capt of other, as yet, unnamed club was doing to our players. jls217
  • Score: 4

9:45am Thu 12 Jun 14

george chivers says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad.

Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left.

Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same.

Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others.

I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.
Sadly I think you are very close to the truth but as I have said before the "Big" clubs have something to offer that we don't have, Huge wages and CL football. And our players are being attracted by Jam today which carries more weight than hope for tomorrow, in a job that has a limited life span.

Not retaining MoPo was the straw that broke the camel's back and like the players will, he went for Jam today driven by ambition and money because he knew we would never have the financial resources to assemble a large top four squad of players.

The priority has to be to name the new manager, get shot of the players who don't want to stay, get in the new boys, and have it done in good time for the pre-season. We don't need to be faffing around in the transfer market in or out in late July and early August. That won't be conducive to a good start to next season.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad. Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left. Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same. Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others. I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.[/p][/quote]Sadly I think you are very close to the truth but as I have said before the "Big" clubs have something to offer that we don't have, Huge wages and CL football. And our players are being attracted by Jam today which carries more weight than hope for tomorrow, in a job that has a limited life span. Not retaining MoPo was the straw that broke the camel's back and like the players will, he went for Jam today driven by ambition and money because he knew we would never have the financial resources to assemble a large top four squad of players. The priority has to be to name the new manager, get shot of the players who don't want to stay, get in the new boys, and have it done in good time for the pre-season. We don't need to be faffing around in the transfer market in or out in late July and early August. That won't be conducive to a good start to next season. george chivers
  • Score: 4

10:01am Thu 12 Jun 14

Confucious says...

Good - let's clear out the wannagos and move on. No point in keeping players who don't want to be here.

As MoPo, Adam, Rickie, Luke and Dejan made clear (whilst getting rid of the very expensive and non-team man Osvaldo last season and before they caught the whiff of bigger money) squad unity and commitment to the cause is absolutely paramount (subject to tax, depreciation and amortisation - conditions may apply - offer ends June 2014 - see small print for details).
Good - let's clear out the wannagos and move on. No point in keeping players who don't want to be here. As MoPo, Adam, Rickie, Luke and Dejan made clear (whilst getting rid of the very expensive and non-team man Osvaldo last season and before they caught the whiff of bigger money) squad unity and commitment to the cause is absolutely paramount (subject to tax, depreciation and amortisation - conditions may apply - offer ends June 2014 - see small print for details). Confucious
  • Score: 10

10:05am Thu 12 Jun 14

John Gillham says...

How many ways can the same article be regurgitated and the same things be said? We need a manager. It will help settle the players and the fans. Act now, stop talking.
How many ways can the same article be regurgitated and the same things be said? We need a manager. It will help settle the players and the fans. Act now, stop talking. John Gillham
  • Score: -2

10:07am Thu 12 Jun 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad. Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left. Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same. Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others. I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.
Good Post.

Rickie has left SUNNY SOUTHAMPTON to DIVER pool.

He now lives on a Bench - he now lives on a Bench ch.
Rickie Lambert - he lives on a bench.

RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN. COYR
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad. Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left. Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same. Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others. I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.[/p][/quote]Good Post. Rickie has left SUNNY SOUTHAMPTON to DIVER pool. He now lives on a Bench - he now lives on a Bench ch. Rickie Lambert - he lives on a bench. RED ARMY 2014 - FIGHT AND WIN. COYR The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 0

10:07am Thu 12 Jun 14

costa gaz says...

Koeman is now attracting interest from Galatasary.... Yakin's odds have drifted could be off to Russia, Mancini will have probably priced himself out of the running, Benitez was never in the running.......... So who is on the short list of 4?
Koeman is now attracting interest from Galatasary.... Yakin's odds have drifted could be off to Russia, Mancini will have probably priced himself out of the running, Benitez was never in the running.......... So who is on the short list of 4? costa gaz
  • Score: -5

10:14am Thu 12 Jun 14

echo1948 says...

Ican,t see any other way for us to go but downwards.If we are not careful,we will end up with a manager installed to late to save the mass exodus of players,and then trying to buy replacements in a transfer market where all the better players will have been snapped up earlier,so that we end up with the players no-one else wants.We need a manager in now or else Iam afraid for next season,s outcome.A relegation fight or even worse,relegation itself.
Ican,t see any other way for us to go but downwards.If we are not careful,we will end up with a manager installed to late to save the mass exodus of players,and then trying to buy replacements in a transfer market where all the better players will have been snapped up earlier,so that we end up with the players no-one else wants.We need a manager in now or else Iam afraid for next season,s outcome.A relegation fight or even worse,relegation itself. echo1948
  • Score: -12

10:15am Thu 12 Jun 14

Folkestone Saint says...

If players are to be sold then it has to be cash up front, none of this "with add on's", after all, if we don't get the cash up front how are we expected to go and buy livermoan arsnil manure and spuds next new players they want from us, pay up or p1ss off
If players are to be sold then it has to be cash up front, none of this "with add on's", after all, if we don't get the cash up front how are we expected to go and buy livermoan arsnil manure and spuds next new players they want from us, pay up or p1ss off Folkestone Saint
  • Score: 4

10:15am Thu 12 Jun 14

Alicesdad says...

The current position can be read in many ways. After all the press rumours puff and guesswork, for me it seems there are two realistic scenarios

1) They are getting ready to sell the club. This is why NC left. MoPo decided to leave as soon as he found that out. They wont spend big money on new players. They will sell key players for whatever they can get. They are cost cuting - hence no overseas foreign tour in pre-season.

OR

2) Les Reed is telling it like it is. We will be buying new players. We will keep the key players where possible. We are waiting on a new manager before making any big decisions.

Obviously we all hope its scenario (2). There are many elelments to no (1) that don't make sense. But when does that ever matter?

But even under that scenario (2) we may still lose players. You cant win 'em all. It's the way it is in the Premiership.

What would be really good and uplifting is if we get a new manager AND sign some credible new players.

All we can do is wait and see. Bl**dy frustrating though. Is there ever a time when Saints fans aren't on edge about something ?

Happy Thursday to y'all
The current position can be read in many ways. After all the press rumours puff and guesswork, for me it seems there are two realistic scenarios 1) They are getting ready to sell the club. This is why NC left. MoPo decided to leave as soon as he found that out. They wont spend big money on new players. They will sell key players for whatever they can get. They are cost cuting - hence no overseas foreign tour in pre-season. OR 2) Les Reed is telling it like it is. We will be buying new players. We will keep the key players where possible. We are waiting on a new manager before making any big decisions. Obviously we all hope its scenario (2). There are many elelments to no (1) that don't make sense. But when does that ever matter? But even under that scenario (2) we may still lose players. You cant win 'em all. It's the way it is in the Premiership. What would be really good and uplifting is if we get a new manager AND sign some credible new players. All we can do is wait and see. Bl**dy frustrating though. Is there ever a time when Saints fans aren't on edge about something ? Happy Thursday to y'all Alicesdad
  • Score: 14

10:15am Thu 12 Jun 14

Shareholder says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad.

Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left.

Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same.

Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others.

I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.
You really are a happy name dropping chappy aren't you? If ever I'm having too much fun in my life I can always read your posts to balance things out!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad. Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left. Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same. Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others. I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.[/p][/quote]You really are a happy name dropping chappy aren't you? If ever I'm having too much fun in my life I can always read your posts to balance things out! Shareholder
  • Score: 17

10:23am Thu 12 Jun 14

Confucious says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad.

Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left.

Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same.

Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others.

I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.
Yeah - Les Reed is trying to make us feel good, but we know we should feel bad when we feel good for fear we'll feel worse when we feel better because things are going to get a lot worse before they get worse and the only true way to feel better is to give up hope.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad. Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left. Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same. Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others. I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.[/p][/quote]Yeah - Les Reed is trying to make us feel good, but we know we should feel bad when we feel good for fear we'll feel worse when we feel better because things are going to get a lot worse before they get worse and the only true way to feel better is to give up hope. Confucious
  • Score: 8

10:29am Thu 12 Jun 14

oldsaintsfan says...

george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad.

Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left.

Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same.

Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others.

I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.
Sadly I think you are very close to the truth but as I have said before the "Big" clubs have something to offer that we don't have, Huge wages and CL football. And our players are being attracted by Jam today which carries more weight than hope for tomorrow, in a job that has a limited life span.

Not retaining MoPo was the straw that broke the camel's back and like the players will, he went for Jam today driven by ambition and money because he knew we would never have the financial resources to assemble a large top four squad of players.

The priority has to be to name the new manager, get shot of the players who don't want to stay, get in the new boys, and have it done in good time for the pre-season. We don't need to be faffing around in the transfer market in or out in late July and early August. That won't be conducive to a good start to next season.
Agree with all the above. I do not know the gentlemen (and I can only judge by outcomes) but Mr Read and the Chairman have done nothing yet to fill me with any optimism. I fear that if key players leave the club they will be difficult to replace with anything of similar quality - our successes (or not) in buying in the transfer market in the very recent past again does not fill me with any great optimism either. We clearly risk going backward unless someone on the board shows some passion to drive the club forward and transmits that to the playing staff. The new manager is obvously key (we have been lucky with three good ones recently) I hope the trend continues...........
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad. Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left. Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same. Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others. I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.[/p][/quote]Sadly I think you are very close to the truth but as I have said before the "Big" clubs have something to offer that we don't have, Huge wages and CL football. And our players are being attracted by Jam today which carries more weight than hope for tomorrow, in a job that has a limited life span. Not retaining MoPo was the straw that broke the camel's back and like the players will, he went for Jam today driven by ambition and money because he knew we would never have the financial resources to assemble a large top four squad of players. The priority has to be to name the new manager, get shot of the players who don't want to stay, get in the new boys, and have it done in good time for the pre-season. We don't need to be faffing around in the transfer market in or out in late July and early August. That won't be conducive to a good start to next season.[/p][/quote]Agree with all the above. I do not know the gentlemen (and I can only judge by outcomes) but Mr Read and the Chairman have done nothing yet to fill me with any optimism. I fear that if key players leave the club they will be difficult to replace with anything of similar quality - our successes (or not) in buying in the transfer market in the very recent past again does not fill me with any great optimism either. We clearly risk going backward unless someone on the board shows some passion to drive the club forward and transmits that to the playing staff. The new manager is obvously key (we have been lucky with three good ones recently) I hope the trend continues........... oldsaintsfan
  • Score: -5

10:32am Thu 12 Jun 14

THE12THMAN says...

Shareholder wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad.

Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left.

Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same.

Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others.

I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.
You really are a happy name dropping chappy aren't you? If ever I'm having too much fun in my life I can always read your posts to balance things out!
Maybe he should change his name to Seedhouse the Unhappy.
[quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad. Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left. Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same. Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others. I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.[/p][/quote]You really are a happy name dropping chappy aren't you? If ever I'm having too much fun in my life I can always read your posts to balance things out![/p][/quote]Maybe he should change his name to Seedhouse the Unhappy. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 14

10:51am Thu 12 Jun 14

Wembley76 says...

There has been a clear statement of intent from the club. it is positive and inspiring and shows clear ambition. The events in the past 2-3 weeks have been de-stabilising and unwanted, but hey, that is life....Mo Po feels he can do more at a bigger club and is taking a gamble, but that is not something the board could have controlled. In relation to the players, they too have ambitions, and some will leave for sure....let's face reality, we cannot compete with the top 4/5 on resources or pulling power...and therefore have to accept that some players will 'move on' to play at a higher level....The good news is that we have some great manager candidates, who will be given the money to rebuild and enable us to continue to grow and develop at a realistic pace...We will not have a mass exodus....much is paper and agent speculation....and we have some great players coming through...so I am really excited about the new season...would I have preferred the status quo? yes of course, but the things have changed and now we need t be positive, behind the board and players and look forward to another great season :)
There has been a clear statement of intent from the club. it is positive and inspiring and shows clear ambition. The events in the past 2-3 weeks have been de-stabilising and unwanted, but hey, that is life....Mo Po feels he can do more at a bigger club and is taking a gamble, but that is not something the board could have controlled. In relation to the players, they too have ambitions, and some will leave for sure....let's face reality, we cannot compete with the top 4/5 on resources or pulling power...and therefore have to accept that some players will 'move on' to play at a higher level....The good news is that we have some great manager candidates, who will be given the money to rebuild and enable us to continue to grow and develop at a realistic pace...We will not have a mass exodus....much is paper and agent speculation....and we have some great players coming through...so I am really excited about the new season...would I have preferred the status quo? yes of course, but the things have changed and now we need t be positive, behind the board and players and look forward to another great season :) Wembley76
  • Score: 17

10:59am Thu 12 Jun 14

Wembley76 says...

echo1948 wrote:
Ican,t see any other way for us to go but downwards.If we are not careful,we will end up with a manager installed to late to save the mass exodus of players,and then trying to buy replacements in a transfer market where all the better players will have been snapped up earlier,so that we end up with the players no-one else wants.We need a manager in now or else Iam afraid for next season,s outcome.A relegation fight or even worse,relegation itself.
So much doom and gloom.....3 years ago we were in League One...wake up and smell the coffee...relegation is an extreme view....so we re-invest the transfer receipts and just capitulate??? C'mon. time to reflect and put things into perspective.....I wouldn't change clubs with any other supporter in the world....it is my 41st season coming up and have been through the good the bad and the ugly with Saints...and certainly don't fear next season!!
[quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: Ican,t see any other way for us to go but downwards.If we are not careful,we will end up with a manager installed to late to save the mass exodus of players,and then trying to buy replacements in a transfer market where all the better players will have been snapped up earlier,so that we end up with the players no-one else wants.We need a manager in now or else Iam afraid for next season,s outcome.A relegation fight or even worse,relegation itself.[/p][/quote]So much doom and gloom.....3 years ago we were in League One...wake up and smell the coffee...relegation is an extreme view....so we re-invest the transfer receipts and just capitulate??? C'mon. time to reflect and put things into perspective.....I wouldn't change clubs with any other supporter in the world....it is my 41st season coming up and have been through the good the bad and the ugly with Saints...and certainly don't fear next season!! Wembley76
  • Score: 15

11:27am Thu 12 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

For the benefit of visiting posters who want to ask us silly questions on here is a set of guidelines

What do we know
a) about our new manager? = nothing.
b) about the aims of the new board? = nothing.
c) about which players are leaving? = nothing.
d) about which new players are coming in? = nothing.
e) about how the new season will go = nothing.

So please refrain from asking hypothetical questions about any of these subjects as we simply cannot give any authoritative answers at the moment. Thank You.
For the benefit of visiting posters who want to ask us silly questions on here is a set of guidelines What do we know a) about our new manager? = nothing. b) about the aims of the new board? = nothing. c) about which players are leaving? = nothing. d) about which new players are coming in? = nothing. e) about how the new season will go = nothing. So please refrain from asking hypothetical questions about any of these subjects as we simply cannot give any authoritative answers at the moment. Thank You. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -6

11:28am Thu 12 Jun 14

aldermoorboy says...

keep as many of our players as possible, they are gold dust
keep as many of our players as possible, they are gold dust aldermoorboy
  • Score: 1

11:29am Thu 12 Jun 14

Littleton-Saint says...

Apart from appointing the new manager next week, nothing more will be happening at St Mary's until after the World Cup.

Even if one or two of our stars leave, the cash will be reinvested - we also have a great future star in Harry Reed coming through - these are all reasons to be cheerful.

Cortese, MoPo and Rickie have gone - we need to move on.
Apart from appointing the new manager next week, nothing more will be happening at St Mary's until after the World Cup. Even if one or two of our stars leave, the cash will be reinvested - we also have a great future star in Harry Reed coming through - these are all reasons to be cheerful. Cortese, MoPo and Rickie have gone - we need to move on. Littleton-Saint
  • Score: 9

11:31am Thu 12 Jun 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

THE12THMAN wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad.

Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left.

Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same.

Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others.

I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.
You really are a happy name dropping chappy aren't you? If ever I'm having too much fun in my life I can always read your posts to balance things out!
Maybe he should change his name to Seedhouse the Unhappy.
Seed's a good guy - one of us. I happen to think he's at least partly wrong about the current situation but he's making some valid points as well. You can spot the sensible (if apparently miserable) ones like Seed because, if you read through his posts, he shows balance between seeming negative and positive; and he likes a good curry.

But, yes, come on Seed, grab a beer, a slice of pizza, your Saints' shirt and plonk yourself down in front of t'telly for the World Cup. You may not be looking forward to it, but if the footy is cr4p, at least the cameras are going to have a field day seeking out all the Brazilian totty. Bring it on, I say. :-)
[quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad. Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left. Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same. Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others. I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.[/p][/quote]You really are a happy name dropping chappy aren't you? If ever I'm having too much fun in my life I can always read your posts to balance things out![/p][/quote]Maybe he should change his name to Seedhouse the Unhappy.[/p][/quote]Seed's a good guy - one of us. I happen to think he's at least partly wrong about the current situation but he's making some valid points as well. You can spot the sensible (if apparently miserable) ones like Seed because, if you read through his posts, he shows balance between seeming negative and positive; and he likes a good curry. But, yes, come on Seed, grab a beer, a slice of pizza, your Saints' shirt and plonk yourself down in front of t'telly for the World Cup. You may not be looking forward to it, but if the footy is cr4p, at least the cameras are going to have a field day seeking out all the Brazilian totty. Bring it on, I say. :-) Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 4

11:38am Thu 12 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad.

Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left.

Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same.

Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others.

I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.
Yeah - Les Reed is trying to make us feel good, but we know we should feel bad when we feel good for fear we'll feel worse when we feel better because things are going to get a lot worse before they get worse and the only true way to feel better is to give up hope.
Summed up my feelings about it all precisely. Things always look worse before they become worst still. every cloud is supposed to have a silver lining, ours seem to be just full of slug trails.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad. Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left. Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same. Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others. I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.[/p][/quote]Yeah - Les Reed is trying to make us feel good, but we know we should feel bad when we feel good for fear we'll feel worse when we feel better because things are going to get a lot worse before they get worse and the only true way to feel better is to give up hope.[/p][/quote]Summed up my feelings about it all precisely. Things always look worse before they become worst still. every cloud is supposed to have a silver lining, ours seem to be just full of slug trails. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -5

11:47am Thu 12 Jun 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
For the benefit of visiting posters who want to ask us silly questions on here is a set of guidelines

What do we know
a) about our new manager? = nothing.
b) about the aims of the new board? = nothing.
c) about which players are leaving? = nothing.
d) about which new players are coming in? = nothing.
e) about how the new season will go = nothing.

So please refrain from asking hypothetical questions about any of these subjects as we simply cannot give any authoritative answers at the moment. Thank You.
But what if - hypothetically speaking - we DID know just part of the answer to just one of these questions? Just asking!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: For the benefit of visiting posters who want to ask us silly questions on here is a set of guidelines What do we know a) about our new manager? = nothing. b) about the aims of the new board? = nothing. c) about which players are leaving? = nothing. d) about which new players are coming in? = nothing. e) about how the new season will go = nothing. So please refrain from asking hypothetical questions about any of these subjects as we simply cannot give any authoritative answers at the moment. Thank You.[/p][/quote]But what if - hypothetically speaking - we DID know just part of the answer to just one of these questions? Just asking! Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 2

11:48am Thu 12 Jun 14

SaintJD says...

While I like to be positive, people need to ensure we don't get taken for a ride by all the spin coming out of the club at the moment.

'We'll reinvest all the money' is all very well but frankly I don't think you should expect the fans to be clapping that comment.

Frankly, with all the money that's coming into the club via the new Sky deal and our record finish I'd say that's the very least we should expect.

In my opinion any transfer funds from player sales should be marketed by the club as a 'nice to have' on top of the money they will surely have put by for transfer deals this summer.

That, I'd like to think, would be conservatively in the region of £20m to £30m based on income regardless of who we sell.

Les shouldn't try to cover up on statements made in the past because frankly I do think the club has done a few u-turns or at the very least been misleading with it's initial 'hands off' comments that have since been watered down to 'our preference'. Not good and not hard to spot the difference.

My other comment, if Les is telling the truth, is on this statement:

“However, there is no way that I or the board were going to make any decisions without the new manager having the opportunity to assess those players and their value to the squad, and having the opportunity to talk to them and to try to persuade them that this was the place to be."

If this is really the case, can any new manager really effectively assess the players in question without seeing them in action in meaningful matches before making a decision?

Training, especially if they are in a huff, isn't good enough.

Again, it is about taking a strong stance. Yes, if you are being offered £30 million for a left back the assessment is less difficult, but £20 million in hand for Adam or £10m for Lovren or £15m for Spider (as let's face it he's going to want out too) is less valuable for us.

As far as I'm concerned the manager needs to sell them the club, yes, but also make it clear that he may not allow them to go anywhere this season.

Saying we need to 'sell them the vision' is all very well - but that suggests it is there decision to make and the power is with them. It isn't.

Luke goes, everyone else we want stays as far as I'm concerned.

At the very least, if we make it clear to agents and other clubs that buying from us is an absolute nightmare, they won't be back.

And players who join need to be equally be aware that if they sign a five year contract, we'll keep them to a five year contract. That kind of focusses the mind and only attracts people who really want to sign for the club, not for a particular manager or member of the board.
While I like to be positive, people need to ensure we don't get taken for a ride by all the spin coming out of the club at the moment. 'We'll reinvest all the money' is all very well but frankly I don't think you should expect the fans to be clapping that comment. Frankly, with all the money that's coming into the club via the new Sky deal and our record finish I'd say that's the very least we should expect. In my opinion any transfer funds from player sales should be marketed by the club as a 'nice to have' on top of the money they will surely have put by for transfer deals this summer. That, I'd like to think, would be conservatively in the region of £20m to £30m based on income regardless of who we sell. Les shouldn't try to cover up on statements made in the past because frankly I do think the club has done a few u-turns or at the very least been misleading with it's initial 'hands off' comments that have since been watered down to 'our preference'. Not good and not hard to spot the difference. My other comment, if Les is telling the truth, is on this statement: “However, there is no way that I or the board were going to make any decisions without the new manager having the opportunity to assess those players and their value to the squad, and having the opportunity to talk to them and to try to persuade them that this was the place to be." If this is really the case, can any new manager really effectively assess the players in question without seeing them in action in meaningful matches before making a decision? Training, especially if they are in a huff, isn't good enough. Again, it is about taking a strong stance. Yes, if you are being offered £30 million for a left back the assessment is less difficult, but £20 million in hand for Adam or £10m for Lovren or £15m for Spider (as let's face it he's going to want out too) is less valuable for us. As far as I'm concerned the manager needs to sell them the club, yes, but also make it clear that he may not allow them to go anywhere this season. Saying we need to 'sell them the vision' is all very well - but that suggests it is there decision to make and the power is with them. It isn't. Luke goes, everyone else we want stays as far as I'm concerned. At the very least, if we make it clear to agents and other clubs that buying from us is an absolute nightmare, they won't be back. And players who join need to be equally be aware that if they sign a five year contract, we'll keep them to a five year contract. That kind of focusses the mind and only attracts people who really want to sign for the club, not for a particular manager or member of the board. SaintJD
  • Score: 4

11:59am Thu 12 Jun 14

markodarko29 says...

Feel very disappointed with a lot of the saints players at the moment ,they seem only to love the ex manager not the club ,managers come and go ,the club is always here ,poch left and betrayed the club for more money, the players should wait and see who the new manager is ,before they judge if they want to leave or not ,hopefully the club will appoint a better manager than before and with backing will take the club to the next level
Feel very disappointed with a lot of the saints players at the moment ,they seem only to love the ex manager not the club ,managers come and go ,the club is always here ,poch left and betrayed the club for more money, the players should wait and see who the new manager is ,before they judge if they want to leave or not ,hopefully the club will appoint a better manager than before and with backing will take the club to the next level markodarko29
  • Score: 9

12:00pm Thu 12 Jun 14

SaintJD says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad.

Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left.

Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same.

Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others.

I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.
Correct Seed. It's a bit of a joke that people are saying you are being negative because you aren't - this is simple, realistic stuff based on the evidence we have so far and some insider information (which incidentally does fit in quite nicely with what we are seeing unfolding at the club) to boot.

Thumbs-downing this comment might make people feel better, but shooting the messenger is not going to help matters.

While I'll get as excited as the next man when a new manager comes in and I do hold out hope that they could still turn this around and enter the new season with the majority of our best players on board and some new additions, I'm not sure it will have been by design.

It's been a baptism of fire for this board and they've allowed themselves to be bullied by everyone, from the ex-chairman to the old manager and now the players, agents and other clubs.

It isn't too late to stand up and fight back, but they need to do it now and may have to over compensate with unreasonable toughness if they are to get a good result.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad. Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left. Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same. Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others. I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.[/p][/quote]Correct Seed. It's a bit of a joke that people are saying you are being negative because you aren't - this is simple, realistic stuff based on the evidence we have so far and some insider information (which incidentally does fit in quite nicely with what we are seeing unfolding at the club) to boot. Thumbs-downing this comment might make people feel better, but shooting the messenger is not going to help matters. While I'll get as excited as the next man when a new manager comes in and I do hold out hope that they could still turn this around and enter the new season with the majority of our best players on board and some new additions, I'm not sure it will have been by design. It's been a baptism of fire for this board and they've allowed themselves to be bullied by everyone, from the ex-chairman to the old manager and now the players, agents and other clubs. It isn't too late to stand up and fight back, but they need to do it now and may have to over compensate with unreasonable toughness if they are to get a good result. SaintJD
  • Score: -2

12:25pm Thu 12 Jun 14

7saint7 says...

So Mopo left us for a bigger wage. Rickie had his dream come true .
mopo going is no biggie i looking forward to are new manger .
As for are star players going . Well there under long contracts (that means if new mangers wants them here they stay here) End of.
If we do sell 1 or 2 of them then its for big bucks as we don't need to sell.
What we do now know is any money raised through player sales is reinvested back into the squad.
Happy days. Coyr
So Mopo left us for a bigger wage. Rickie had his dream come true . mopo going is no biggie i looking forward to are new manger . As for are star players going . Well there under long contracts (that means if new mangers wants them here they stay here) End of. If we do sell 1 or 2 of them then its for big bucks as we don't need to sell. What we do now know is any money raised through player sales is reinvested back into the squad. Happy days. Coyr 7saint7
  • Score: 4

12:36pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Tony Robertson says...

Agree with Seed. Blimey, that's a first!

Seriously, the thorn in the flesh is Reed. A new manager will not solve the inherent problems, Reed has far too much power and influence. It's clear the players are not happy with him. He caused all sorts of problems at Charlton. For a million pounds plus per annum, all he does is rub people up the wrong way. Get him off the wages bill.


Tony Robertson, Stranraer
Agree with Seed. Blimey, that's a first! Seriously, the thorn in the flesh is Reed. A new manager will not solve the inherent problems, Reed has far too much power and influence. It's clear the players are not happy with him. He caused all sorts of problems at Charlton. For a million pounds plus per annum, all he does is rub people up the wrong way. Get him off the wages bill. Tony Robertson, Stranraer Tony Robertson
  • Score: -4

12:38pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
THE12THMAN wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad.

Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left.

Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same.

Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others.

I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.
You really are a happy name dropping chappy aren't you? If ever I'm having too much fun in my life I can always read your posts to balance things out!
Maybe he should change his name to Seedhouse the Unhappy.
Seed's a good guy - one of us. I happen to think he's at least partly wrong about the current situation but he's making some valid points as well. You can spot the sensible (if apparently miserable) ones like Seed because, if you read through his posts, he shows balance between seeming negative and positive; and he likes a good curry.

But, yes, come on Seed, grab a beer, a slice of pizza, your Saints' shirt and plonk yourself down in front of t'telly for the World Cup. You may not be looking forward to it, but if the footy is cr4p, at least the cameras are going to have a field day seeking out all the Brazilian totty. Bring it on, I say. :-)
I have been miserable I admit which as Strassie who knows me can testify that isn't my normal approach. It isn't name dropping either, I happened to have Jesus living next door in Rickie's house and purely passed on what he told me which I would hope others would have done in the same situation.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad. Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left. Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same. Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others. I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.[/p][/quote]You really are a happy name dropping chappy aren't you? If ever I'm having too much fun in my life I can always read your posts to balance things out![/p][/quote]Maybe he should change his name to Seedhouse the Unhappy.[/p][/quote]Seed's a good guy - one of us. I happen to think he's at least partly wrong about the current situation but he's making some valid points as well. You can spot the sensible (if apparently miserable) ones like Seed because, if you read through his posts, he shows balance between seeming negative and positive; and he likes a good curry. But, yes, come on Seed, grab a beer, a slice of pizza, your Saints' shirt and plonk yourself down in front of t'telly for the World Cup. You may not be looking forward to it, but if the footy is cr4p, at least the cameras are going to have a field day seeking out all the Brazilian totty. Bring it on, I say. :-)[/p][/quote]I have been miserable I admit which as Strassie who knows me can testify that isn't my normal approach. It isn't name dropping either, I happened to have Jesus living next door in Rickie's house and purely passed on what he told me which I would hope others would have done in the same situation. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 2

1:16pm Thu 12 Jun 14

costa gaz says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
For the benefit of visiting posters who want to ask us silly questions on here is a set of guidelines

What do we know
a) about our new manager? = nothing.
b) about the aims of the new board? = nothing.
c) about which players are leaving? = nothing.
d) about which new players are coming in? = nothing.
e) about how the new season will go = nothing.

So please refrain from asking hypothetical questions about any of these subjects as we simply cannot give any authoritative answers at the moment. Thank You.
a).. he'll be here quicker than us fans realise ...(les Reed)
b).. they have discussed their aims at length.
c).. One has gone, a few more will follow.
d).. players will no doubt be bought in over the course of the summer.
e) the season will start Saturday August 16th, we will play 38 games and the results will determine our league position at the end of the season.

If you have any more questions feel free to ask info@irksomequestion
sanswered.co

ps, when you say we can't answer, on who's behalf are you talking?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: For the benefit of visiting posters who want to ask us silly questions on here is a set of guidelines What do we know a) about our new manager? = nothing. b) about the aims of the new board? = nothing. c) about which players are leaving? = nothing. d) about which new players are coming in? = nothing. e) about how the new season will go = nothing. So please refrain from asking hypothetical questions about any of these subjects as we simply cannot give any authoritative answers at the moment. Thank You.[/p][/quote]a).. he'll be here quicker than us fans realise ...(les Reed) b).. they have discussed their aims at length. c).. One has gone, a few more will follow. d).. players will no doubt be bought in over the course of the summer. e) the season will start Saturday August 16th, we will play 38 games and the results will determine our league position at the end of the season. If you have any more questions feel free to ask info@irksomequestion sanswered.co ps, when you say we can't answer, on who's behalf are you talking? costa gaz
  • Score: 6

1:30pm Thu 12 Jun 14

LEE FROM THE LANE says...

Watcha
Looks like Lovren has come down with a bad case of the Feeder club blues innit.he said I wanna leave.i wanna go Tottenham innit.nevermind we'll have him.no asking mind,just taking.we'll give youse a few mill to plough back into that feeder academy so we can come back and plunder it again.nice.

Viva la feeder
Watcha Looks like Lovren has come down with a bad case of the Feeder club blues innit.he said I wanna leave.i wanna go Tottenham innit.nevermind we'll have him.no asking mind,just taking.we'll give youse a few mill to plough back into that feeder academy so we can come back and plunder it again.nice. Viva la feeder LEE FROM THE LANE
  • Score: -5

1:33pm Thu 12 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

costa gaz wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
For the benefit of visiting posters who want to ask us silly questions on here is a set of guidelines

What do we know
a) about our new manager? = nothing.
b) about the aims of the new board? = nothing.
c) about which players are leaving? = nothing.
d) about which new players are coming in? = nothing.
e) about how the new season will go = nothing.

So please refrain from asking hypothetical questions about any of these subjects as we simply cannot give any authoritative answers at the moment. Thank You.
a).. he'll be here quicker than us fans realise ...(les Reed)
b).. they have discussed their aims at length.
c).. One has gone, a few more will follow.
d).. players will no doubt be bought in over the course of the summer.
e) the season will start Saturday August 16th, we will play 38 games and the results will determine our league position at the end of the season.

If you have any more questions feel free to ask info@irksomequestion

sanswered.co

ps, when you say we can't answer, on who's behalf are you talking?
Anyone of us that know nothing about the subject and I think you will find that is probably 99%! The other 1% aren't telling.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: For the benefit of visiting posters who want to ask us silly questions on here is a set of guidelines What do we know a) about our new manager? = nothing. b) about the aims of the new board? = nothing. c) about which players are leaving? = nothing. d) about which new players are coming in? = nothing. e) about how the new season will go = nothing. So please refrain from asking hypothetical questions about any of these subjects as we simply cannot give any authoritative answers at the moment. Thank You.[/p][/quote]a).. he'll be here quicker than us fans realise ...(les Reed) b).. they have discussed their aims at length. c).. One has gone, a few more will follow. d).. players will no doubt be bought in over the course of the summer. e) the season will start Saturday August 16th, we will play 38 games and the results will determine our league position at the end of the season. If you have any more questions feel free to ask info@irksomequestion sanswered.co ps, when you say we can't answer, on who's behalf are you talking?[/p][/quote]Anyone of us that know nothing about the subject and I think you will find that is probably 99%! The other 1% aren't telling. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

1:35pm Thu 12 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
For the benefit of visiting posters who want to ask us silly questions on here is a set of guidelines

What do we know
a) about our new manager? = nothing.
b) about the aims of the new board? = nothing.
c) about which players are leaving? = nothing.
d) about which new players are coming in? = nothing.
e) about how the new season will go = nothing.

So please refrain from asking hypothetical questions about any of these subjects as we simply cannot give any authoritative answers at the moment. Thank You.
But what if - hypothetically speaking - we DID know just part of the answer to just one of these questions? Just asking!
Don't tell 'em Pike.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: For the benefit of visiting posters who want to ask us silly questions on here is a set of guidelines What do we know a) about our new manager? = nothing. b) about the aims of the new board? = nothing. c) about which players are leaving? = nothing. d) about which new players are coming in? = nothing. e) about how the new season will go = nothing. So please refrain from asking hypothetical questions about any of these subjects as we simply cannot give any authoritative answers at the moment. Thank You.[/p][/quote]But what if - hypothetically speaking - we DID know just part of the answer to just one of these questions? Just asking![/p][/quote]Don't tell 'em Pike. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 4

1:39pm Thu 12 Jun 14

costa gaz says...

LEE FROM THE LANE wrote:
Watcha
Looks like Lovren has come down with a bad case of the Feeder club blues innit.he said I wanna leave.i wanna go Tottenham innit.nevermind we'll have him.no asking mind,just taking.we'll give youse a few mill to plough back into that feeder academy so we can come back and plunder it again.nice.

Viva la feeder
Lee, do you not consider Spurs to be a feeder club then? The football food chain effects us all.... even footballing giants like Spurs..
[quote][p][bold]LEE FROM THE LANE[/bold] wrote: Watcha Looks like Lovren has come down with a bad case of the Feeder club blues innit.he said I wanna leave.i wanna go Tottenham innit.nevermind we'll have him.no asking mind,just taking.we'll give youse a few mill to plough back into that feeder academy so we can come back and plunder it again.nice. Viva la feeder[/p][/quote]Lee, do you not consider Spurs to be a feeder club then? The football food chain effects us all.... even footballing giants like Spurs.. costa gaz
  • Score: 0

1:44pm Thu 12 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

costa gaz wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
For the benefit of visiting posters who want to ask us silly questions on here is a set of guidelines

What do we know
a) about our new manager? = nothing.
b) about the aims of the new board? = nothing.
c) about which players are leaving? = nothing.
d) about which new players are coming in? = nothing.
e) about how the new season will go = nothing.

So please refrain from asking hypothetical questions about any of these subjects as we simply cannot give any authoritative answers at the moment. Thank You.
a).. he'll be here quicker than us fans realise ...(les Reed)
b).. they have discussed their aims at length.
c).. One has gone, a few more will follow.
d).. players will no doubt be bought in over the course of the summer.
e) the season will start Saturday August 16th, we will play 38 games and the results will determine our league position at the end of the season.

If you have any more questions feel free to ask info@irksomequestion

sanswered.co

ps, when you say we can't answer, on who's behalf are you talking?
a) It can't come soon enough.
b) Now put their money where theirs mouths are
c) One too many, (and d) but we still know diddly about any other moves
e) I'll be there at the start, God willing, I'll be there at the end still smiling and optimistic.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: For the benefit of visiting posters who want to ask us silly questions on here is a set of guidelines What do we know a) about our new manager? = nothing. b) about the aims of the new board? = nothing. c) about which players are leaving? = nothing. d) about which new players are coming in? = nothing. e) about how the new season will go = nothing. So please refrain from asking hypothetical questions about any of these subjects as we simply cannot give any authoritative answers at the moment. Thank You.[/p][/quote]a).. he'll be here quicker than us fans realise ...(les Reed) b).. they have discussed their aims at length. c).. One has gone, a few more will follow. d).. players will no doubt be bought in over the course of the summer. e) the season will start Saturday August 16th, we will play 38 games and the results will determine our league position at the end of the season. If you have any more questions feel free to ask info@irksomequestion sanswered.co ps, when you say we can't answer, on who's behalf are you talking?[/p][/quote]a) It can't come soon enough. b) Now put their money where theirs mouths are c) One too many, (and d) but we still know diddly about any other moves e) I'll be there at the start, God willing, I'll be there at the end still smiling and optimistic. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

1:52pm Thu 12 Jun 14

drkensta says...

I think we should hope for the best that we get a good and influential manager so that he can get the players to play attacking football which brings positive results, and attract other good players to want to come to the Saints. I think also that Pochetinno is not irreplaceable. Some of the times I was not impressed with him as he used to spend too much time sat on his bum when he should have been on his feet giving encouragement to the team when they were under pressure. I also think he should have been fired when he publicly stated that he was not in favour of competing in the Europa league cup, and the weak team he put out against Hull in the FA Cup when we had a good chance to progress in both competitions. I believe we could have reached the Cup Final, and come in the first 6 in the Premier League as both of his errors were followed by a string of poor results. I am glad he has gone because I think we can get better especially with Koeman as our manager.
I think we should hope for the best that we get a good and influential manager so that he can get the players to play attacking football which brings positive results, and attract other good players to want to come to the Saints. I think also that Pochetinno is not irreplaceable. Some of the times I was not impressed with him as he used to spend too much time sat on his bum when he should have been on his feet giving encouragement to the team when they were under pressure. I also think he should have been fired when he publicly stated that he was not in favour of competing in the Europa league cup, and the weak team he put out against Hull in the FA Cup when we had a good chance to progress in both competitions. I believe we could have reached the Cup Final, and come in the first 6 in the Premier League as both of his errors were followed by a string of poor results. I am glad he has gone because I think we can get better especially with Koeman as our manager. drkensta
  • Score: 1

1:53pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

Seed,
"Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect."

But, if we believe the rumours, Adam's itchy feet preceded Lambert going.
Seed, "Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect." But, if we believe the rumours, Adam's itchy feet preceded Lambert going. Rising_Son
  • Score: 3

1:56pm Thu 12 Jun 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Just simply say a big NO NO NO to all the players considering leaving, especially Adam, Luke and now Dejan.
They are all feeling that the team will be weaker next season but if they are all that good then they should stay together and with 4 top additions, push on for a Champions league place next season.
Les & Ralph, the problem is also with you for not spelling out the plan for next season to either the players or us fans, Nichola Cortese said it was definitely Champions League but you have only intimated it.
A top high profile, successful manager is now needed to show everyone the clubs ambition and make an impact statement.
So come on Ralph & Les go and sell the job to the likes of Benitez, Ranieri etc and settle the players down. There must be £35m + to add quality players without selling any others so lets get on with it.
Just simply say a big NO NO NO to all the players considering leaving, especially Adam, Luke and now Dejan. They are all feeling that the team will be weaker next season but if they are all that good then they should stay together and with 4 top additions, push on for a Champions league place next season. Les & Ralph, the problem is also with you for not spelling out the plan for next season to either the players or us fans, Nichola Cortese said it was definitely Champions League but you have only intimated it. A top high profile, successful manager is now needed to show everyone the clubs ambition and make an impact statement. So come on Ralph & Les go and sell the job to the likes of Benitez, Ranieri etc and settle the players down. There must be £35m + to add quality players without selling any others so lets get on with it. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 2

2:06pm Thu 12 Jun 14

jls217 says...

Can we read anything into this?

NEWS
Thursday June 12 2014
Benitez on Reina and future
By Football Italia staff

Rafa Benitez confirms Napoli ‘cannot afford’ Pepe Reina, and hints at his own future being back in the Premier League.

The 54-year-old spent six years on the Liverpool bench and more recently six months as interim manager at Chelsea and has admitted he would like a third stint back in England at some stage.

“Yes for sure. I’m really pleased with the fans, the city, the club, the Press – everything is fine there, but my family is living here ,” Benitez has told Talksport this week.

“My daughters are in school, they have to go to university here so my idea is in the future to come back.

“But still I will say I’m really pleased with things in Italy and I have to say thank you to them because they’re supporting me all the time.

“But in the end you never know. I have also been asked about to Spain, but obviously my family is in England.”

Benitez endured a difficult relationship with Chelsea supporters during 2012-13.

“Not just the fans . My main concern were the players and the staff so the people around were really pleased. I still have a lot of contacts .

“Everybody could see it was a difficult time from the beginning, but we did well. We were professional, the staff and the board. The people around were happy with what we did.”

Benitez also commented on continued speculation over Napoli’s attempts to agree a deal to re-sign Pepe Reina from Liverpool.

For the tactician, the chances of the Vesuviani keeping hold of the Spain international look remote.

“Yes. Pepe has two years left on his contract at Liverpool. He has to go back and he’ll stay there. We can’t afford Pepe’s wages.

“The Premier League is a very big league and, in Serie A, we don’t pay big wages like in England. He will have to fight for his position at Liverpool.”
Can we read anything into this? NEWS Thursday June 12 2014 Benitez on Reina and future By Football Italia staff Rafa Benitez confirms Napoli ‘cannot afford’ Pepe Reina, and hints at his own future being back in the Premier League. The 54-year-old spent six years on the Liverpool bench and more recently six months as interim manager at Chelsea and has admitted he would like a third stint back in England at some stage. “Yes for sure. I’m really pleased with the [Napoli] fans, the city, the club, the Press – everything is fine there, but my family is living here [in England],” Benitez has told Talksport this week. “My daughters are in school, they have to go to university here so my idea is in the future to come back. “But still I will say I’m really pleased with things in Italy and I have to say thank you to them because they’re supporting me all the time. “But in the end you never know. I have also been asked about [going back] to Spain, but obviously my family is in England.” Benitez endured a difficult relationship with Chelsea supporters during 2012-13. “Not just the fans [were happy]. My main concern were the players and the staff so the people around were really pleased. I still have a lot of contacts [there]. “Everybody could see it was a difficult time from the beginning, but we did well. We were professional, the staff and the board. The people around were happy with what we did.” Benitez also commented on continued speculation over Napoli’s attempts to agree a deal to re-sign Pepe Reina from Liverpool. For the tactician, the chances of the Vesuviani keeping hold of the Spain international look remote. “Yes. Pepe has two years left on his contract at Liverpool. He has to go back and he’ll stay there. We can’t afford Pepe’s wages. “The Premier League is a very big league and, in Serie A, we don’t pay big wages like in England. He will have to fight for his position at Liverpool.” jls217
  • Score: 0

2:21pm Thu 12 Jun 14

SaintJD says...

jls217 wrote:
Can we read anything into this?

NEWS
Thursday June 12 2014
Benitez on Reina and future
By Football Italia staff

Rafa Benitez confirms Napoli ‘cannot afford’ Pepe Reina, and hints at his own future being back in the Premier League.

The 54-year-old spent six years on the Liverpool bench and more recently six months as interim manager at Chelsea and has admitted he would like a third stint back in England at some stage.

“Yes for sure. I’m really pleased with the fans, the city, the club, the Press – everything is fine there, but my family is living here ,” Benitez has told Talksport this week.

“My daughters are in school, they have to go to university here so my idea is in the future to come back.

“But still I will say I’m really pleased with things in Italy and I have to say thank you to them because they’re supporting me all the time.

“But in the end you never know. I have also been asked about to Spain, but obviously my family is in England.”

Benitez endured a difficult relationship with Chelsea supporters during 2012-13.

“Not just the fans . My main concern were the players and the staff so the people around were really pleased. I still have a lot of contacts .

“Everybody could see it was a difficult time from the beginning, but we did well. We were professional, the staff and the board. The people around were happy with what we did.”

Benitez also commented on continued speculation over Napoli’s attempts to agree a deal to re-sign Pepe Reina from Liverpool.

For the tactician, the chances of the Vesuviani keeping hold of the Spain international look remote.

“Yes. Pepe has two years left on his contract at Liverpool. He has to go back and he’ll stay there. We can’t afford Pepe’s wages.

“The Premier League is a very big league and, in Serie A, we don’t pay big wages like in England. He will have to fight for his position at Liverpool.”
I think we can read into this that Benitez is, and always will be, a media tart, flouting himself around at the smallest opportunity - he's like Sven Lite. FACT.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Can we read anything into this? NEWS Thursday June 12 2014 Benitez on Reina and future By Football Italia staff Rafa Benitez confirms Napoli ‘cannot afford’ Pepe Reina, and hints at his own future being back in the Premier League. The 54-year-old spent six years on the Liverpool bench and more recently six months as interim manager at Chelsea and has admitted he would like a third stint back in England at some stage. “Yes for sure. I’m really pleased with the [Napoli] fans, the city, the club, the Press – everything is fine there, but my family is living here [in England],” Benitez has told Talksport this week. “My daughters are in school, they have to go to university here so my idea is in the future to come back. “But still I will say I’m really pleased with things in Italy and I have to say thank you to them because they’re supporting me all the time. “But in the end you never know. I have also been asked about [going back] to Spain, but obviously my family is in England.” Benitez endured a difficult relationship with Chelsea supporters during 2012-13. “Not just the fans [were happy]. My main concern were the players and the staff so the people around were really pleased. I still have a lot of contacts [there]. “Everybody could see it was a difficult time from the beginning, but we did well. We were professional, the staff and the board. The people around were happy with what we did.” Benitez also commented on continued speculation over Napoli’s attempts to agree a deal to re-sign Pepe Reina from Liverpool. For the tactician, the chances of the Vesuviani keeping hold of the Spain international look remote. “Yes. Pepe has two years left on his contract at Liverpool. He has to go back and he’ll stay there. We can’t afford Pepe’s wages. “The Premier League is a very big league and, in Serie A, we don’t pay big wages like in England. He will have to fight for his position at Liverpool.”[/p][/quote]I think we can read into this that Benitez is, and always will be, a media tart, flouting himself around at the smallest opportunity - he's like Sven Lite. FACT. SaintJD
  • Score: 1

2:26pm Thu 12 Jun 14

SaintJD says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
THE12THMAN wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad.

Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left.

Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same.

Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others.

I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.
You really are a happy name dropping chappy aren't you? If ever I'm having too much fun in my life I can always read your posts to balance things out!
Maybe he should change his name to Seedhouse the Unhappy.
Seed's a good guy - one of us. I happen to think he's at least partly wrong about the current situation but he's making some valid points as well. You can spot the sensible (if apparently miserable) ones like Seed because, if you read through his posts, he shows balance between seeming negative and positive; and he likes a good curry.

But, yes, come on Seed, grab a beer, a slice of pizza, your Saints' shirt and plonk yourself down in front of t'telly for the World Cup. You may not be looking forward to it, but if the footy is cr4p, at least the cameras are going to have a field day seeking out all the Brazilian totty. Bring it on, I say. :-)
I have been miserable I admit which as Strassie who knows me can testify that isn't my normal approach. It isn't name dropping either, I happened to have Jesus living next door in Rickie's house and purely passed on what he told me which I would hope others would have done in the same situation.
Skybet are offering odds on Seed's next neighbour. He's had Saint Rickie, Jesus. Who next? Le God?

You haven't spotted Steve Bruce or Felix Magath over the fence of late I hope.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad. Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left. Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same. Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others. I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.[/p][/quote]You really are a happy name dropping chappy aren't you? If ever I'm having too much fun in my life I can always read your posts to balance things out![/p][/quote]Maybe he should change his name to Seedhouse the Unhappy.[/p][/quote]Seed's a good guy - one of us. I happen to think he's at least partly wrong about the current situation but he's making some valid points as well. You can spot the sensible (if apparently miserable) ones like Seed because, if you read through his posts, he shows balance between seeming negative and positive; and he likes a good curry. But, yes, come on Seed, grab a beer, a slice of pizza, your Saints' shirt and plonk yourself down in front of t'telly for the World Cup. You may not be looking forward to it, but if the footy is cr4p, at least the cameras are going to have a field day seeking out all the Brazilian totty. Bring it on, I say. :-)[/p][/quote]I have been miserable I admit which as Strassie who knows me can testify that isn't my normal approach. It isn't name dropping either, I happened to have Jesus living next door in Rickie's house and purely passed on what he told me which I would hope others would have done in the same situation.[/p][/quote]Skybet are offering odds on Seed's next neighbour. He's had Saint Rickie, Jesus. Who next? Le God? You haven't spotted Steve Bruce or Felix Magath over the fence of late I hope. SaintJD
  • Score: 2

2:46pm Thu 12 Jun 14

jls217 says...

SaintJD wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Can we read anything into this?

NEWS
Thursday June 12 2014
Benitez on Reina and future
By Football Italia staff

Rafa Benitez confirms Napoli ‘cannot afford’ Pepe Reina, and hints at his own future being back in the Premier League.

The 54-year-old spent six years on the Liverpool bench and more recently six months as interim manager at Chelsea and has admitted he would like a third stint back in England at some stage.

“Yes for sure. I’m really pleased with the fans, the city, the club, the Press – everything is fine there, but my family is living here ,” Benitez has told Talksport this week.

“My daughters are in school, they have to go to university here so my idea is in the future to come back.

“But still I will say I’m really pleased with things in Italy and I have to say thank you to them because they’re supporting me all the time.

“But in the end you never know. I have also been asked about to Spain, but obviously my family is in England.”

Benitez endured a difficult relationship with Chelsea supporters during 2012-13.

“Not just the fans . My main concern were the players and the staff so the people around were really pleased. I still have a lot of contacts .

“Everybody could see it was a difficult time from the beginning, but we did well. We were professional, the staff and the board. The people around were happy with what we did.”

Benitez also commented on continued speculation over Napoli’s attempts to agree a deal to re-sign Pepe Reina from Liverpool.

For the tactician, the chances of the Vesuviani keeping hold of the Spain international look remote.

“Yes. Pepe has two years left on his contract at Liverpool. He has to go back and he’ll stay there. We can’t afford Pepe’s wages.

“The Premier League is a very big league and, in Serie A, we don’t pay big wages like in England. He will have to fight for his position at Liverpool.”
I think we can read into this that Benitez is, and always will be, a media tart, flouting himself around at the smallest opportunity - he's like Sven Lite. FACT.
Lol good point JD.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Can we read anything into this? NEWS Thursday June 12 2014 Benitez on Reina and future By Football Italia staff Rafa Benitez confirms Napoli ‘cannot afford’ Pepe Reina, and hints at his own future being back in the Premier League. The 54-year-old spent six years on the Liverpool bench and more recently six months as interim manager at Chelsea and has admitted he would like a third stint back in England at some stage. “Yes for sure. I’m really pleased with the [Napoli] fans, the city, the club, the Press – everything is fine there, but my family is living here [in England],” Benitez has told Talksport this week. “My daughters are in school, they have to go to university here so my idea is in the future to come back. “But still I will say I’m really pleased with things in Italy and I have to say thank you to them because they’re supporting me all the time. “But in the end you never know. I have also been asked about [going back] to Spain, but obviously my family is in England.” Benitez endured a difficult relationship with Chelsea supporters during 2012-13. “Not just the fans [were happy]. My main concern were the players and the staff so the people around were really pleased. I still have a lot of contacts [there]. “Everybody could see it was a difficult time from the beginning, but we did well. We were professional, the staff and the board. The people around were happy with what we did.” Benitez also commented on continued speculation over Napoli’s attempts to agree a deal to re-sign Pepe Reina from Liverpool. For the tactician, the chances of the Vesuviani keeping hold of the Spain international look remote. “Yes. Pepe has two years left on his contract at Liverpool. He has to go back and he’ll stay there. We can’t afford Pepe’s wages. “The Premier League is a very big league and, in Serie A, we don’t pay big wages like in England. He will have to fight for his position at Liverpool.”[/p][/quote]I think we can read into this that Benitez is, and always will be, a media tart, flouting himself around at the smallest opportunity - he's like Sven Lite. FACT.[/p][/quote]Lol good point JD. jls217
  • Score: 0

3:17pm Thu 12 Jun 14

el caballo santos101 says...

LEE FROM THE LANE wrote:
Watcha
Looks like Lovren has come down with a bad case of the Feeder club blues innit.he said I wanna leave.i wanna go Tottenham innit.nevermind we'll have him.no asking mind,just taking.we'll give youse a few mill to plough back into that feeder academy so we can come back and plunder it again.nice.

Viva la feeder
oh dear the fish is so desperate to make himself look like a Londoner that he`s putting `innit` in every sentence. I expect the next comment from him or his other fish friends in disguise will have something to do with trophies, and we all know the only fans who keep on telling us about trophies are the fish!
couldn't resist that but from now on;
SSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH
HHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!
[quote][p][bold]LEE FROM THE LANE[/bold] wrote: Watcha Looks like Lovren has come down with a bad case of the Feeder club blues innit.he said I wanna leave.i wanna go Tottenham innit.nevermind we'll have him.no asking mind,just taking.we'll give youse a few mill to plough back into that feeder academy so we can come back and plunder it again.nice. Viva la feeder[/p][/quote]oh dear the fish is so desperate to make himself look like a Londoner that he`s putting `innit` in every sentence. I expect the next comment from him or his other fish friends in disguise will have something to do with trophies, and we all know the only fans who keep on telling us about trophies are the fish! couldn't resist that but from now on; SSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! !!! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 4

4:24pm Thu 12 Jun 14

hasan tariq says...

i am sorry to say but until this board act i have no opinion on them no kit out no manager no competitive pre season matches organized and if thats there idea of working the socks off then i am speechless.
i am sorry to say but until this board act i have no opinion on them no kit out no manager no competitive pre season matches organized and if thats there idea of working the socks off then i am speechless. hasan tariq
  • Score: -3

4:27pm Thu 12 Jun 14

saintand266 says...

Whether it's true or not its worryingly being reported on line that talks with Koeman have broken down and now we are turning our attentions to Steve Bruce. I hope this is just more press speculation , as if true it would be a huge step in the wrong direction .
Hopefully the board will do whatever it takes to get a quality manager, if not koeman then try and tempt Mancini or Ranieri
Whether it's true or not its worryingly being reported on line that talks with Koeman have broken down and now we are turning our attentions to Steve Bruce. I hope this is just more press speculation , as if true it would be a huge step in the wrong direction . Hopefully the board will do whatever it takes to get a quality manager, if not koeman then try and tempt Mancini or Ranieri saintand266
  • Score: 2

4:28pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Simms1 says...

Any person with half a brain knew the likelihood was that MoPo was on his way at the end of the season. In which case why are we now into June without a replacement and with a player mutiny on our hands. Ineptitude of the highest order.
Any person with half a brain knew the likelihood was that MoPo was on his way at the end of the season. In which case why are we now into June without a replacement and with a player mutiny on our hands. Ineptitude of the highest order. Simms1
  • Score: -4

4:45pm Thu 12 Jun 14

durhamsaint87 says...

jls217 wrote:
durhamsaint87 wrote:
We need the manager in place now to sort out this mess. There must be things happening behind the scenes that we are not aware of. How could so many players want to leave after the best season we have had in the premier? Has finishing 8th gone to their heads? Has MOPO put these ideas in the players heads before he left? Does this all stem back to Nicola leaving? Why is St Mary's not a happy place? We have not been told the whole story here!
And just like all the other scandalous happenings prior to this one we will never get the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. So why bother getting bent out of shape over that which we have no control.

Let the back room boys quietly get on with their work, allow the new manager time to work out which drawer in his desk his brandy is going into, let the players come back and stew in their juice for a while, let the manager wield his axe and sit back and enjoy the new brand of football which is likely to emerge.

And listen intently to what our captain has to say about why he did not allay fans fears or work in the best interest of his club whilst abroad and reassuring his team mates. Cos I bet a months wages that's what the capt of other, as yet, unnamed club was doing to our players.
I have been a saints support for over 50 years and believe me, I've seen it all from promotion to relegation and all the ups and downs that go with supporting our great club. I like everyone has an opinion I agree with some of your thoughts but not with others.
The reason for my comments is the passed history, such as taking players words as true. I give you on example. Kevin Keegan said he would stay and on the basis of this and other considerations I renewed my season ticket. A month later he left for Newcastle. We trusted the Rupert Bear show and look where that got us. People are spending their hard earn cash, I for one will continue to pay to watch my team, I just feel we need to know how long this discord has been going on. Remember we where told all is well only for things to go wrong. A happy team means happy supports. I welcome the fact that this board is a bit more open, however, if Lovern put in a request as stated on the 30th May then why has this just come out. It's just the inconsistencies of what is happening at St Mary's that is causing all this doubt. I for one will be glad when the new season starts then we really will know whats what.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]durhamsaint87[/bold] wrote: We need the manager in place now to sort out this mess. There must be things happening behind the scenes that we are not aware of. How could so many players want to leave after the best season we have had in the premier? Has finishing 8th gone to their heads? Has MOPO put these ideas in the players heads before he left? Does this all stem back to Nicola leaving? Why is St Mary's not a happy place? We have not been told the whole story here![/p][/quote]And just like all the other scandalous happenings prior to this one we will never get the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. So why bother getting bent out of shape over that which we have no control. Let the back room boys quietly get on with their work, allow the new manager time to work out which drawer in his desk his brandy is going into, let the players come back and stew in their juice for a while, let the manager wield his axe and sit back and enjoy the new brand of football which is likely to emerge. And listen intently to what our captain has to say about why he did not allay fans fears or work in the best interest of his club whilst abroad and reassuring his team mates. Cos I bet a months wages that's what the capt of other, as yet, unnamed club was doing to our players.[/p][/quote]I have been a saints support for over 50 years and believe me, I've seen it all from promotion to relegation and all the ups and downs that go with supporting our great club. I like everyone has an opinion I agree with some of your thoughts but not with others. The reason for my comments is the passed history, such as taking players words as true. I give you on example. Kevin Keegan said he would stay and on the basis of this and other considerations I renewed my season ticket. A month later he left for Newcastle. We trusted the Rupert Bear show and look where that got us. People are spending their hard earn cash, I for one will continue to pay to watch my team, I just feel we need to know how long this discord has been going on. Remember we where told all is well only for things to go wrong. A happy team means happy supports. I welcome the fact that this board is a bit more open, however, if Lovern put in a request as stated on the 30th May then why has this just come out. It's just the inconsistencies of what is happening at St Mary's that is causing all this doubt. I for one will be glad when the new season starts then we really will know whats what. durhamsaint87
  • Score: 0

4:51pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

SaintJD wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
THE12THMAN wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad.

Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left.

Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same.

Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others.

I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.
You really are a happy name dropping chappy aren't you? If ever I'm having too much fun in my life I can always read your posts to balance things out!
Maybe he should change his name to Seedhouse the Unhappy.
Seed's a good guy - one of us. I happen to think he's at least partly wrong about the current situation but he's making some valid points as well. You can spot the sensible (if apparently miserable) ones like Seed because, if you read through his posts, he shows balance between seeming negative and positive; and he likes a good curry.

But, yes, come on Seed, grab a beer, a slice of pizza, your Saints' shirt and plonk yourself down in front of t'telly for the World Cup. You may not be looking forward to it, but if the footy is cr4p, at least the cameras are going to have a field day seeking out all the Brazilian totty. Bring it on, I say. :-)
I have been miserable I admit which as Strassie who knows me can testify that isn't my normal approach. It isn't name dropping either, I happened to have Jesus living next door in Rickie's house and purely passed on what he told me which I would hope others would have done in the same situation.
Skybet are offering odds on Seed's next neighbour. He's had Saint Rickie, Jesus. Who next? Le God?

You haven't spotted Steve Bruce or Felix Magath over the fence of late I hope.
Le God lives round the corner. There was a fat bloke skulking around yesterday and as it wasn't Bad Bill could have been Bruce.

Travelled along way to fish today and the tench are spawning so I've not had a single bite. I bet they've put Les in charge of the bloody place.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad. Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left. Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same. Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others. I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.[/p][/quote]You really are a happy name dropping chappy aren't you? If ever I'm having too much fun in my life I can always read your posts to balance things out![/p][/quote]Maybe he should change his name to Seedhouse the Unhappy.[/p][/quote]Seed's a good guy - one of us. I happen to think he's at least partly wrong about the current situation but he's making some valid points as well. You can spot the sensible (if apparently miserable) ones like Seed because, if you read through his posts, he shows balance between seeming negative and positive; and he likes a good curry. But, yes, come on Seed, grab a beer, a slice of pizza, your Saints' shirt and plonk yourself down in front of t'telly for the World Cup. You may not be looking forward to it, but if the footy is cr4p, at least the cameras are going to have a field day seeking out all the Brazilian totty. Bring it on, I say. :-)[/p][/quote]I have been miserable I admit which as Strassie who knows me can testify that isn't my normal approach. It isn't name dropping either, I happened to have Jesus living next door in Rickie's house and purely passed on what he told me which I would hope others would have done in the same situation.[/p][/quote]Skybet are offering odds on Seed's next neighbour. He's had Saint Rickie, Jesus. Who next? Le God? You haven't spotted Steve Bruce or Felix Magath over the fence of late I hope.[/p][/quote]Le God lives round the corner. There was a fat bloke skulking around yesterday and as it wasn't Bad Bill could have been Bruce. Travelled along way to fish today and the tench are spawning so I've not had a single bite. I bet they've put Les in charge of the bloody place. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -5

5:04pm Thu 12 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
THE12THMAN wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad.

Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left.

Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same.

Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others.

I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.
You really are a happy name dropping chappy aren't you? If ever I'm having too much fun in my life I can always read your posts to balance things out!
Maybe he should change his name to Seedhouse the Unhappy.
Seed's a good guy - one of us. I happen to think he's at least partly wrong about the current situation but he's making some valid points as well. You can spot the sensible (if apparently miserable) ones like Seed because, if you read through his posts, he shows balance between seeming negative and positive; and he likes a good curry.

But, yes, come on Seed, grab a beer, a slice of pizza, your Saints' shirt and plonk yourself down in front of t'telly for the World Cup. You may not be looking forward to it, but if the footy is cr4p, at least the cameras are going to have a field day seeking out all the Brazilian totty. Bring it on, I say. :-)
I have been miserable I admit which as Strassie who knows me can testify that isn't my normal approach. It isn't name dropping either, I happened to have Jesus living next door in Rickie's house and purely passed on what he told me which I would hope others would have done in the same situation.
Skybet are offering odds on Seed's next neighbour. He's had Saint Rickie, Jesus. Who next? Le God?

You haven't spotted Steve Bruce or Felix Magath over the fence of late I hope.
Le God lives round the corner. There was a fat bloke skulking around yesterday and as it wasn't Bad Bill could have been Bruce.

Travelled along way to fish today and the tench are spawning so I've not had a single bite. I bet they've put Les in charge of the bloody place.
You should stick to skate baiting and leave the fish to live in peace!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad. Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left. Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same. Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others. I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.[/p][/quote]You really are a happy name dropping chappy aren't you? If ever I'm having too much fun in my life I can always read your posts to balance things out![/p][/quote]Maybe he should change his name to Seedhouse the Unhappy.[/p][/quote]Seed's a good guy - one of us. I happen to think he's at least partly wrong about the current situation but he's making some valid points as well. You can spot the sensible (if apparently miserable) ones like Seed because, if you read through his posts, he shows balance between seeming negative and positive; and he likes a good curry. But, yes, come on Seed, grab a beer, a slice of pizza, your Saints' shirt and plonk yourself down in front of t'telly for the World Cup. You may not be looking forward to it, but if the footy is cr4p, at least the cameras are going to have a field day seeking out all the Brazilian totty. Bring it on, I say. :-)[/p][/quote]I have been miserable I admit which as Strassie who knows me can testify that isn't my normal approach. It isn't name dropping either, I happened to have Jesus living next door in Rickie's house and purely passed on what he told me which I would hope others would have done in the same situation.[/p][/quote]Skybet are offering odds on Seed's next neighbour. He's had Saint Rickie, Jesus. Who next? Le God? You haven't spotted Steve Bruce or Felix Magath over the fence of late I hope.[/p][/quote]Le God lives round the corner. There was a fat bloke skulking around yesterday and as it wasn't Bad Bill could have been Bruce. Travelled along way to fish today and the tench are spawning so I've not had a single bite. I bet they've put Les in charge of the bloody place.[/p][/quote]You should stick to skate baiting and leave the fish to live in peace! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

5:26pm Thu 12 Jun 14

jls217 says...

Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad.

Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left.

Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same.

Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others.

I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.
Yeah - Les Reed is trying to make us feel good, but we know we should feel bad when we feel good for fear we'll feel worse when we feel better because things are going to get a lot worse before they get worse and the only true way to feel better is to give up hope.
No better way of putting it than that.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad. Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left. Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same. Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others. I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.[/p][/quote]Yeah - Les Reed is trying to make us feel good, but we know we should feel bad when we feel good for fear we'll feel worse when we feel better because things are going to get a lot worse before they get worse and the only true way to feel better is to give up hope.[/p][/quote]No better way of putting it than that. jls217
  • Score: -1

7:04pm Thu 12 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Even the best Manager in the World cannot do everything on his own, it will be interesting to see who gets the other important positions in the training team set up. Assistant Manager, Goalkeeping Coach, e.t.c.
Even the best Manager in the World cannot do everything on his own, it will be interesting to see who gets the other important positions in the training team set up. Assistant Manager, Goalkeeping Coach, e.t.c. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

7:43pm Thu 12 Jun 14

NH1701 says...

https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=JDqYcMcX
9Vw&feature=youtu.be


A 20 min interview with Les Reed, he talks about a lot of things, well worth a watch
https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=JDqYcMcX 9Vw&feature=youtu.be A 20 min interview with Les Reed, he talks about a lot of things, well worth a watch NH1701
  • Score: -1

7:43pm Thu 12 Jun 14

zurichboy says...

And the new boss will be.....Roberto Mancini. This is 100% NOT guaranteed as it came from the mate of a mate and we all know how those rumours turn out.
However there is something about this one that makes me think it might just be true.
And the new boss will be.....Roberto Mancini. This is 100% NOT guaranteed as it came from the mate of a mate and we all know how those rumours turn out. However there is something about this one that makes me think it might just be true. zurichboy
  • Score: 2

8:02pm Thu 12 Jun 14

echo1948 says...

durhamsaint87 wrote:
jls217 wrote:
durhamsaint87 wrote:
We need the manager in place now to sort out this mess. There must be things happening behind the scenes that we are not aware of. How could so many players want to leave after the best season we have had in the premier? Has finishing 8th gone to their heads? Has MOPO put these ideas in the players heads before he left? Does this all stem back to Nicola leaving? Why is St Mary's not a happy place? We have not been told the whole story here!
And just like all the other scandalous happenings prior to this one we will never get the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. So why bother getting bent out of shape over that which we have no control.

Let the back room boys quietly get on with their work, allow the new manager time to work out which drawer in his desk his brandy is going into, let the players come back and stew in their juice for a while, let the manager wield his axe and sit back and enjoy the new brand of football which is likely to emerge.

And listen intently to what our captain has to say about why he did not allay fans fears or work in the best interest of his club whilst abroad and reassuring his team mates. Cos I bet a months wages that's what the capt of other, as yet, unnamed club was doing to our players.
I have been a saints support for over 50 years and believe me, I've seen it all from promotion to relegation and all the ups and downs that go with supporting our great club. I like everyone has an opinion I agree with some of your thoughts but not with others.
The reason for my comments is the passed history, such as taking players words as true. I give you on example. Kevin Keegan said he would stay and on the basis of this and other considerations I renewed my season ticket. A month later he left for Newcastle. We trusted the Rupert Bear show and look where that got us. People are spending their hard earn cash, I for one will continue to pay to watch my team, I just feel we need to know how long this discord has been going on. Remember we where told all is well only for things to go wrong. A happy team means happy supports. I welcome the fact that this board is a bit more open, however, if Lovern put in a request as stated on the 30th May then why has this just come out. It's just the inconsistencies of what is happening at St Mary's that is causing all this doubt. I for one will be glad when the new season starts then we really will know whats what.
I too am a supporter of some 50 years but I can honestly say that Icannot remember a bigger shambles at SFC in all those years.Players wanting to leave right left and centre,no word on a new manager,and absolute silence from the board.Someone said on here "don,t forget where we were 3 years ago" if things go on like they are now we could be back in that position sooner rather than later.
[quote][p][bold]durhamsaint87[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]durhamsaint87[/bold] wrote: We need the manager in place now to sort out this mess. There must be things happening behind the scenes that we are not aware of. How could so many players want to leave after the best season we have had in the premier? Has finishing 8th gone to their heads? Has MOPO put these ideas in the players heads before he left? Does this all stem back to Nicola leaving? Why is St Mary's not a happy place? We have not been told the whole story here![/p][/quote]And just like all the other scandalous happenings prior to this one we will never get the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. So why bother getting bent out of shape over that which we have no control. Let the back room boys quietly get on with their work, allow the new manager time to work out which drawer in his desk his brandy is going into, let the players come back and stew in their juice for a while, let the manager wield his axe and sit back and enjoy the new brand of football which is likely to emerge. And listen intently to what our captain has to say about why he did not allay fans fears or work in the best interest of his club whilst abroad and reassuring his team mates. Cos I bet a months wages that's what the capt of other, as yet, unnamed club was doing to our players.[/p][/quote]I have been a saints support for over 50 years and believe me, I've seen it all from promotion to relegation and all the ups and downs that go with supporting our great club. I like everyone has an opinion I agree with some of your thoughts but not with others. The reason for my comments is the passed history, such as taking players words as true. I give you on example. Kevin Keegan said he would stay and on the basis of this and other considerations I renewed my season ticket. A month later he left for Newcastle. We trusted the Rupert Bear show and look where that got us. People are spending their hard earn cash, I for one will continue to pay to watch my team, I just feel we need to know how long this discord has been going on. Remember we where told all is well only for things to go wrong. A happy team means happy supports. I welcome the fact that this board is a bit more open, however, if Lovern put in a request as stated on the 30th May then why has this just come out. It's just the inconsistencies of what is happening at St Mary's that is causing all this doubt. I for one will be glad when the new season starts then we really will know whats what.[/p][/quote]I too am a supporter of some 50 years but I can honestly say that Icannot remember a bigger shambles at SFC in all those years.Players wanting to leave right left and centre,no word on a new manager,and absolute silence from the board.Someone said on here "don,t forget where we were 3 years ago" if things go on like they are now we could be back in that position sooner rather than later. echo1948
  • Score: 3

8:53pm Thu 12 Jun 14

el caballo santos101 says...

echo1948 wrote:
durhamsaint87 wrote:
jls217 wrote:
durhamsaint87 wrote:
We need the manager in place now to sort out this mess. There must be things happening behind the scenes that we are not aware of. How could so many players want to leave after the best season we have had in the premier? Has finishing 8th gone to their heads? Has MOPO put these ideas in the players heads before he left? Does this all stem back to Nicola leaving? Why is St Mary's not a happy place? We have not been told the whole story here!
And just like all the other scandalous happenings prior to this one we will never get the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. So why bother getting bent out of shape over that which we have no control.

Let the back room boys quietly get on with their work, allow the new manager time to work out which drawer in his desk his brandy is going into, let the players come back and stew in their juice for a while, let the manager wield his axe and sit back and enjoy the new brand of football which is likely to emerge.

And listen intently to what our captain has to say about why he did not allay fans fears or work in the best interest of his club whilst abroad and reassuring his team mates. Cos I bet a months wages that's what the capt of other, as yet, unnamed club was doing to our players.
I have been a saints support for over 50 years and believe me, I've seen it all from promotion to relegation and all the ups and downs that go with supporting our great club. I like everyone has an opinion I agree with some of your thoughts but not with others.
The reason for my comments is the passed history, such as taking players words as true. I give you on example. Kevin Keegan said he would stay and on the basis of this and other considerations I renewed my season ticket. A month later he left for Newcastle. We trusted the Rupert Bear show and look where that got us. People are spending their hard earn cash, I for one will continue to pay to watch my team, I just feel we need to know how long this discord has been going on. Remember we where told all is well only for things to go wrong. A happy team means happy supports. I welcome the fact that this board is a bit more open, however, if Lovern put in a request as stated on the 30th May then why has this just come out. It's just the inconsistencies of what is happening at St Mary's that is causing all this doubt. I for one will be glad when the new season starts then we really will know whats what.
I too am a supporter of some 50 years but I can honestly say that Icannot remember a bigger shambles at SFC in all those years.Players wanting to leave right left and centre,no word on a new manager,and absolute silence from the board.Someone said on here "don,t forget where we were 3 years ago" if things go on like they are now we could be back in that position sooner rather than later.
what players have come out and said they want to leave? don't believe everything you read from the fail. according to them dejan put in a transfer request just days after saying he was happy here and it was up to the board if he left, meaning if theres a bid accepted.
no word on a new manager? did you not see les reeds interview where he explained what has been going on and a new manager will be appointed sooner rather than later and its jus a mater of paperwork?
silence from the board? again I refer you to les reeds recent interview, oh and the one he did before the end of the season. also RK has done several interviews in which he has explained what he can. its not their fault people chose to ignore them!
also on silence, can you tell me how many interviews NC did in his four years at the club? I can only think of a handful, so in 3-4months the new board have done more interviews and given us more information than we had in the previous 4yrs, hardly silent is it? or do you want them to comment on every single rumour?
do you really think saints will be in administration and in L1 again so soon?
[quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]durhamsaint87[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]durhamsaint87[/bold] wrote: We need the manager in place now to sort out this mess. There must be things happening behind the scenes that we are not aware of. How could so many players want to leave after the best season we have had in the premier? Has finishing 8th gone to their heads? Has MOPO put these ideas in the players heads before he left? Does this all stem back to Nicola leaving? Why is St Mary's not a happy place? We have not been told the whole story here![/p][/quote]And just like all the other scandalous happenings prior to this one we will never get the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. So why bother getting bent out of shape over that which we have no control. Let the back room boys quietly get on with their work, allow the new manager time to work out which drawer in his desk his brandy is going into, let the players come back and stew in their juice for a while, let the manager wield his axe and sit back and enjoy the new brand of football which is likely to emerge. And listen intently to what our captain has to say about why he did not allay fans fears or work in the best interest of his club whilst abroad and reassuring his team mates. Cos I bet a months wages that's what the capt of other, as yet, unnamed club was doing to our players.[/p][/quote]I have been a saints support for over 50 years and believe me, I've seen it all from promotion to relegation and all the ups and downs that go with supporting our great club. I like everyone has an opinion I agree with some of your thoughts but not with others. The reason for my comments is the passed history, such as taking players words as true. I give you on example. Kevin Keegan said he would stay and on the basis of this and other considerations I renewed my season ticket. A month later he left for Newcastle. We trusted the Rupert Bear show and look where that got us. People are spending their hard earn cash, I for one will continue to pay to watch my team, I just feel we need to know how long this discord has been going on. Remember we where told all is well only for things to go wrong. A happy team means happy supports. I welcome the fact that this board is a bit more open, however, if Lovern put in a request as stated on the 30th May then why has this just come out. It's just the inconsistencies of what is happening at St Mary's that is causing all this doubt. I for one will be glad when the new season starts then we really will know whats what.[/p][/quote]I too am a supporter of some 50 years but I can honestly say that Icannot remember a bigger shambles at SFC in all those years.Players wanting to leave right left and centre,no word on a new manager,and absolute silence from the board.Someone said on here "don,t forget where we were 3 years ago" if things go on like they are now we could be back in that position sooner rather than later.[/p][/quote]what players have come out and said they want to leave? don't believe everything you read from the fail. according to them dejan put in a transfer request just days after saying he was happy here and it was up to the board if he left, meaning if theres a bid accepted. no word on a new manager? did you not see les reeds interview where he explained what has been going on and a new manager will be appointed sooner rather than later and its jus a mater of paperwork? silence from the board? again I refer you to les reeds recent interview, oh and the one he did before the end of the season. also RK has done several interviews in which he has explained what he can. its not their fault people chose to ignore them! also on silence, can you tell me how many interviews NC did in his four years at the club? I can only think of a handful, so in 3-4months the new board have done more interviews and given us more information than we had in the previous 4yrs, hardly silent is it? or do you want them to comment on every single rumour? do you really think saints will be in administration and in L1 again so soon? el caballo santos101
  • Score: -2

9:49pm Thu 12 Jun 14

jls217 says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
durhamsaint87 wrote:
jls217 wrote:
durhamsaint87 wrote:
We need the manager in place now to sort out this mess. There must be things happening behind the scenes that we are not aware of. How could so many players want to leave after the best season we have had in the premier? Has finishing 8th gone to their heads? Has MOPO put these ideas in the players heads before he left? Does this all stem back to Nicola leaving? Why is St Mary's not a happy place? We have not been told the whole story here!
And just like all the other scandalous happenings prior to this one we will never get the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. So why bother getting bent out of shape over that which we have no control.

Let the back room boys quietly get on with their work, allow the new manager time to work out which drawer in his desk his brandy is going into, let the players come back and stew in their juice for a while, let the manager wield his axe and sit back and enjoy the new brand of football which is likely to emerge.

And listen intently to what our captain has to say about why he did not allay fans fears or work in the best interest of his club whilst abroad and reassuring his team mates. Cos I bet a months wages that's what the capt of other, as yet, unnamed club was doing to our players.
I have been a saints support for over 50 years and believe me, I've seen it all from promotion to relegation and all the ups and downs that go with supporting our great club. I like everyone has an opinion I agree with some of your thoughts but not with others.
The reason for my comments is the passed history, such as taking players words as true. I give you on example. Kevin Keegan said he would stay and on the basis of this and other considerations I renewed my season ticket. A month later he left for Newcastle. We trusted the Rupert Bear show and look where that got us. People are spending their hard earn cash, I for one will continue to pay to watch my team, I just feel we need to know how long this discord has been going on. Remember we where told all is well only for things to go wrong. A happy team means happy supports. I welcome the fact that this board is a bit more open, however, if Lovern put in a request as stated on the 30th May then why has this just come out. It's just the inconsistencies of what is happening at St Mary's that is causing all this doubt. I for one will be glad when the new season starts then we really will know whats what.
I too am a supporter of some 50 years but I can honestly say that Icannot remember a bigger shambles at SFC in all those years.Players wanting to leave right left and centre,no word on a new manager,and absolute silence from the board.Someone said on here "don,t forget where we were 3 years ago" if things go on like they are now we could be back in that position sooner rather than later.
what players have come out and said they want to leave? don't believe everything you read from the fail. according to them dejan put in a transfer request just days after saying he was happy here and it was up to the board if he left, meaning if theres a bid accepted.
no word on a new manager? did you not see les reeds interview where he explained what has been going on and a new manager will be appointed sooner rather than later and its jus a mater of paperwork?
silence from the board? again I refer you to les reeds recent interview, oh and the one he did before the end of the season. also RK has done several interviews in which he has explained what he can. its not their fault people chose to ignore them!
also on silence, can you tell me how many interviews NC did in his four years at the club? I can only think of a handful, so in 3-4months the new board have done more interviews and given us more information than we had in the previous 4yrs, hardly silent is it? or do you want them to comment on every single rumour?
do you really think saints will be in administration and in L1 again so soon?
I'm with you mate. There is a lot of overdramatic, ignorant, ill thought out comments being made by people who do not have a clue what is going on behind the scenes but want to spout their BS all the same.

Calm down - wait a few more days and see what transpires. Nobody will leave unless for good money, there is a war chest for the incoming man, there is gossip of a couple of transfer requests but that doesn't mean they are true and it also doesn't mean the club have to let them go.

Engage brain first please.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]durhamsaint87[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]durhamsaint87[/bold] wrote: We need the manager in place now to sort out this mess. There must be things happening behind the scenes that we are not aware of. How could so many players want to leave after the best season we have had in the premier? Has finishing 8th gone to their heads? Has MOPO put these ideas in the players heads before he left? Does this all stem back to Nicola leaving? Why is St Mary's not a happy place? We have not been told the whole story here![/p][/quote]And just like all the other scandalous happenings prior to this one we will never get the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. So why bother getting bent out of shape over that which we have no control. Let the back room boys quietly get on with their work, allow the new manager time to work out which drawer in his desk his brandy is going into, let the players come back and stew in their juice for a while, let the manager wield his axe and sit back and enjoy the new brand of football which is likely to emerge. And listen intently to what our captain has to say about why he did not allay fans fears or work in the best interest of his club whilst abroad and reassuring his team mates. Cos I bet a months wages that's what the capt of other, as yet, unnamed club was doing to our players.[/p][/quote]I have been a saints support for over 50 years and believe me, I've seen it all from promotion to relegation and all the ups and downs that go with supporting our great club. I like everyone has an opinion I agree with some of your thoughts but not with others. The reason for my comments is the passed history, such as taking players words as true. I give you on example. Kevin Keegan said he would stay and on the basis of this and other considerations I renewed my season ticket. A month later he left for Newcastle. We trusted the Rupert Bear show and look where that got us. People are spending their hard earn cash, I for one will continue to pay to watch my team, I just feel we need to know how long this discord has been going on. Remember we where told all is well only for things to go wrong. A happy team means happy supports. I welcome the fact that this board is a bit more open, however, if Lovern put in a request as stated on the 30th May then why has this just come out. It's just the inconsistencies of what is happening at St Mary's that is causing all this doubt. I for one will be glad when the new season starts then we really will know whats what.[/p][/quote]I too am a supporter of some 50 years but I can honestly say that Icannot remember a bigger shambles at SFC in all those years.Players wanting to leave right left and centre,no word on a new manager,and absolute silence from the board.Someone said on here "don,t forget where we were 3 years ago" if things go on like they are now we could be back in that position sooner rather than later.[/p][/quote]what players have come out and said they want to leave? don't believe everything you read from the fail. according to them dejan put in a transfer request just days after saying he was happy here and it was up to the board if he left, meaning if theres a bid accepted. no word on a new manager? did you not see les reeds interview where he explained what has been going on and a new manager will be appointed sooner rather than later and its jus a mater of paperwork? silence from the board? again I refer you to les reeds recent interview, oh and the one he did before the end of the season. also RK has done several interviews in which he has explained what he can. its not their fault people chose to ignore them! also on silence, can you tell me how many interviews NC did in his four years at the club? I can only think of a handful, so in 3-4months the new board have done more interviews and given us more information than we had in the previous 4yrs, hardly silent is it? or do you want them to comment on every single rumour? do you really think saints will be in administration and in L1 again so soon?[/p][/quote]I'm with you mate. There is a lot of overdramatic, ignorant, ill thought out comments being made by people who do not have a clue what is going on behind the scenes but want to spout their BS all the same. Calm down - wait a few more days and see what transpires. Nobody will leave unless for good money, there is a war chest for the incoming man, there is gossip of a couple of transfer requests but that doesn't mean they are true and it also doesn't mean the club have to let them go. Engage brain first please. jls217
  • Score: 2

11:06pm Thu 12 Jun 14

scorpioeyes says...

why is it taking so long to appoint a new manager? we had a happy squad and a happy club ( so we beleive) but the departure of NC was the start of our demise.. we have never been told why he left. a relegation battle is a certainty.
why is it taking so long to appoint a new manager? we had a happy squad and a happy club ( so we beleive) but the departure of NC was the start of our demise.. we have never been told why he left. a relegation battle is a certainty. scorpioeyes
  • Score: -5

9:28am Fri 13 Jun 14

N Ireland Saint says...

zurichboy wrote:
And the new boss will be.....Roberto Mancini. This is 100% NOT guaranteed as it came from the mate of a mate and we all know how those rumours turn out.
However there is something about this one that makes me think it might just be true.
As much as i would welcome such an appointment, i find this one hard to believe, on the other hand who would have ever believed that we could get Keegan from Hamburg at that time. As for the possible mass departure of players is this not just a case of Agents encouraging players to look for moves so they can line their pockets.
[quote][p][bold]zurichboy[/bold] wrote: And the new boss will be.....Roberto Mancini. This is 100% NOT guaranteed as it came from the mate of a mate and we all know how those rumours turn out. However there is something about this one that makes me think it might just be true.[/p][/quote]As much as i would welcome such an appointment, i find this one hard to believe, on the other hand who would have ever believed that we could get Keegan from Hamburg at that time. As for the possible mass departure of players is this not just a case of Agents encouraging players to look for moves so they can line their pockets. N Ireland Saint
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12:59pm Fri 13 Jun 14

lowe esteem says...

chapelsaint wrote:
Just seen Harry Rednapp at St Mary's!
That bloke often wanders down from East St -even the people down the dole office think he looks like him, they don't have the benefit of the subtle differences that the keen-eyed can detect -he leaves the tins of cheap lager and dog (not Rosie) outside the door through necessity. Understandable mistake, makes similar noises and gurns whilst mumbling about when he played with Bobby Moore and how his dog does his accounts.
[quote][p][bold]chapelsaint[/bold] wrote: Just seen Harry Rednapp at St Mary's![/p][/quote]That bloke often wanders down from East St -even the people down the dole office think he looks like him, they don't have the benefit of the subtle differences that the keen-eyed can detect -he leaves the tins of cheap lager and dog (not Rosie) outside the door through necessity. Understandable mistake, makes similar noises and gurns whilst mumbling about when he played with Bobby Moore and how his dog does his accounts. lowe esteem
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2:42pm Fri 13 Jun 14

lowe esteem says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad.

Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left.

Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same.

Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others.

I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.
Does beg the question, good business or not -what was the hurry, why did it have to happen so soon, still looks foolish biting someone's hand off to sell your talismanic goal scorer when you've not got a replacement -or even manager- in place, and said striker's away trying his best for his country?
Mind on the job, EVERYONE? or £?
Still doesn't tally with what the Board indicated through Les the caretaker, and that's what's made us straight thinking Saints doubt.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Letting Rickie go for £4m when 20% goes to Brizzle was a crap deal. Yes he's getting towards the end but he was our talisman and very influential with the rest of the squad. Rickie was the first of our players to come out and publicly say how important keeping MoPo was and that we needed some new signings to push on. When he had his last child he moved out of the house next door to me and moved to a bigger one in Ampfield which he rented for three years. I would suggest that tells you what his intentions were and how long he felt he had left. Anyone who watched even a few games last season would have seen the massive team spirit that this squad had. They were content here, they were playing for each other and the manager. Say what you will but that has now been seriously damaged, even if we force players to stay it won't be the same. Once we sold our talisman it was only a matter of time before his mate Adam got itchy feet and then the domino effect. Lovrens statement a few weeks ago was no doubt true at the time, but things have changed and that will also be the case with Morgan and others. I do not believe that KL is seeking to asset strip but I do believe she has appointed the wrong chairman who in turn has given far more power to Les Reed than ever Cortese did. There is no doubt that the feel good factor of the last season and England call ups has completely and utterly evaporated on their watch.[/p][/quote]Does beg the question, good business or not -what was the hurry, why did it have to happen so soon, still looks foolish biting someone's hand off to sell your talismanic goal scorer when you've not got a replacement -or even manager- in place, and said striker's away trying his best for his country? Mind on the job, EVERYONE? or £? Still doesn't tally with what the Board indicated through Les the caretaker, and that's what's made us straight thinking Saints doubt. lowe esteem
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